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Dream Theater => Dream Theater => Topic started by: energythief on September 23, 2011, 03:02:28 PM
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I played a game called Tribond recently, and I thought it would be fun to start a little DT-themed game here on the forum.
The rules are straightforward. I will list a set of three Dream Theater songs which share something in common. (Now, there may be lots of things in common, but there is one right answer I have in mind.) Whoever guesses the connection between the three songs wins the round, and gets to post a puzzle of their own!
It can be about any part of the song - music, lyrics, credits, titles, etc. Half the fun is figuring it out! Here's an example:
1. Ytse Jam
2. Hell's Kitchen
3. Stream of Consciousness
The unifying thread for those three songs is "Instrumentals". See, pretty easy, right?
So with the rules out of the way, here's the first set of songs:
1. Learning to Live
2. Lifting Shadows off a Dream
3. Train of Tears
What common element binds these three together? Good luck!
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All have lyrics written by John Myung
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All have lyrics written by John Myung
Correct! Now post one of your own. :)
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Another Day
Lines in the Sand
Through Her Eyes
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All include a guest musician.
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All include a guest musician.
Correct :tup
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:laugh:
Okay. let me think of one...
A Change of Seasons
Honor Thy Father
The Best Of Times
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All three are about a Portnoy relative? I believe ACOS is about his mother, and the other two about his father
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True.. but that was the obvious answer. No! :D
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They all feature spoken samples from movies? I know ACOS is from Dead poets society, and Honor thy father has some from something involving Christopher Walken, but I dunno about Best of times
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No :smiley:
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They are all written by Mike Portnoy?
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They are about Portnoy's dad? :P
maybe childhood
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They are all written about a relative of MPs who is now dead?
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I can think of much more other than the obvious. All written by Portnoy about passed away family members.
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No. It's more obvious than that!
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All lyrics written by Portnoy :P
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Hint?
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They're all longer than 10 minutes. :P
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All were recorded in New York City? I'm really clutching at straws now
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They're all longer than 10 minutes. :P
There you go!
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They're all longer than 10 minutes. :P
There you go!
WOW
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Haha.
Peruvian Skies
Anna Lee
The Spirit Carries On
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And I tried so hard.... :'(
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Haha.
Peruvian Skies
Anna Lee
The Spirit Carries On
All three about a female character?
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Haha.
Peruvian Skies
Anna Lee
The Spirit Carries On
All three about a female character?
VERY close, but not exactly what I was looking for.
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All deal with death
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All three dealing with the idea of an afterlife/another life than the one at hand?
Or realizing potential and essentially renewing ones faith in a better life?
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Ok all females with tragic stories/ending
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Nope. Mbarak's first guess was more on the right track.
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All three include a female name in their lyrics?
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All three include a female name in their lyrics?
Yes!
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WOOOO!!! ;D Ok give me a few minutes...
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That was a good one
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Ok this may be a little easy but anyway:
Learning to Live
Forsaken
Blind Faith
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They all begin with a keyboard intro.
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Seeing life in a new light?
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Piano?
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Acideus is correct :tup
Your turn :D
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Piano?
this
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Acideus is correct :tup
Your turn :D
Hooray! ;D
Panic Attack
The Best Of Times
Metropolis Pt. 1
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5th tracks on their respective albums
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5th tracks on their respective albums
Correct.
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Jamesman Jamesman Jamesman Jamesman Jamesman Jamesman Jamesman Jamesman Jamesman Jamesman
Uhhh
Metropolis Pt. 1
Breaking All Illusions
These Walls
(Note: this will be very tough because y'all over-analyze everything)
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(Note: this will be very tough because y'all over-analyze everything)
Okay then, going with a ridiculously simple guess: they're your favorite DT songs?
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Metropolis Pt. 1
Breaking All Illusions
These Walls
Lyrics by Petrucci?
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All feature guitar solos from john petrucci?
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No...though Metropolis is my favorite DT song ever but nope
Edit:
Metropolis Pt. 1
Breaking All Illusions
These Walls
Lyrics by Petrucci?
Nope, it's harder than that.
All feature guitar solos from john petrucci?
Nope
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they all deal with breaking through boundaries (maybe :P)
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I guess that is true but that is not it
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All end with epic strings/symphonic synths
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All end with epic strings/symphonic synths
Beat me to it.
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All end with epic strings/symphonic synths
Nope
Y'all need to stop playing around and take notes on the songs, because it ain't that easy
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Seriously no one post in this thread anymore, it isn't a fucking game. This just got real.
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They are all DT songs.
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:neverusethis:
Nope.
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Didn't check for this but I'll try anyway...same key?
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Gotta eliminate the obvious ones first:
All mention the title in the lyrics
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Didn't check for this but I'll try anyway...same key?
Nope.
Gotta eliminate the obvious ones first:
All mention the title in the lyrics
You're actually getting somewhat on the right track now.
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All the songs have the chorus's 'main theme' played in the intro? Not sure about Metropolis, but definitely true for the other two.
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Its longer than 1 minute in each before vocals come in
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All come after a ballad
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Nope to everything
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All of the lyrics were written by John.
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OR, All are surrounded on either side by shorter songs.
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No
Edit:
OR, All are surrounded on either side by shorter songs.
No, but nice nugget
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All end with the letter "s"
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The Miracle and The Sleepers?
No
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But that sounds like a good idea for a band name...thanks!
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all lyrics written by original members
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They come from your three favorite albums, I&W 8varium and ADTOE
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It has nothing to do with my personal preference. It is objective.
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Just putting it out there that this probably has something to do either with the lyrics or the titles:
All mention the title in the lyrics
You're actually getting somewhat on the right track now.
I mean, I for one am clueless, but it might help someone else come up with something.
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They are all DT songs.
:lol
Somebody please get this - don't let Jamesman win.
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jamesman wins!
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Uh...all titles contain the letter L.
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lol no
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(https://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrdbuwiWtL1qe4so8.png)
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None of the lyrics contain the letter 'z'.
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None of the lyrics contain the letter 'z'.
And we have a
LOSER
Nope.
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Ok, what about Q?
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come on, you have to give us a clue haha
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It could be argued that all of the songs contain lyrics which relate to other DT songs
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Hint: Think letters
And not that douchebag that hates dream theater haha just kidding haha haha
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2 s's in each song?
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All have s's in them
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2 s's in each song?
What do you mean "in each song"?
All have s's in them
In "them"? What is "them"?
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in each title of song..the less obvious is metropolis pt 1 the miracle and the sleeper
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S's in the song titles? In the lyrics themselves?
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Each title has two s's in it!
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No to all of the above.
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First line of each song contains at least 1 s
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Now you are getting somewhere on the right track, even closer
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First lines all contain a word that starts with s.
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He just said that
But stay in this general vicinity
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Breaking All Illusions-->Streams of thought awaken
Metropolis-->Metropolis, Part 2 SFAM, watches and thoughtfully smiles
These Walls-->Falling into darkness Infinity!
Maybe I'm reaching a little
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Not only that, it's in the title, first and last line of lyrics of each song. Getting desperate here.
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Guys, i said "think letters"
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He just said that
But stay in this general vicinity
No, he said the lines contain at least one s, and I said they contain a word that STARTS with s. :P
And I just dropped my Systematic Chaos CD and broke the jewel case. This thread is ruining my life. :lol
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all the songs lyrics contain letters?
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Good, this is gonna drive people bananas like the time I introduced things that belonged in a perfect world. :lol
all the songs lyrics contain letters?
A lot more specific than that.
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The titles of each have at least one case of double letters, eg in illusions, there are two l's in a row
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I confirmed the general vicinity was in the first line of the lyrics....so no
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All three have an 's' in the first line of their lyrics?
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another clue? haha
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Total of letters of the first line is an odd number
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the sun--> Thes un
The smile-->Thes mile
These Walls
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All s's in the first line of lyrics appear either at the end or at the start of a word.
Now we're getting a little bit crazy
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OK, forget the s's. Nothing to do with s's.
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The two lines 'with the sun in place' and 'the smile of dawn' are interesting similar. Don't see anything with These Walls though
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TWO. LETTERS.
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First lines of each song contain a word starting with 'th'
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le bump?
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Jamesman please stop viewing other topics and end this madness here!
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First lines of each song contain a word starting with 'th'
WINNER
Good job 1,000 posts later eh?
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I hope you go to sleep tonight knowing the name Jamesman.
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right. next one
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Incidentally I'm going to sleep now, anyone who wants to carry this on feel free
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Wow, after all the hours i've spent staring at the lyrics. Analyzing the structures. Counting letters and words.... i feel cheated
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I hope Jamesman doesn't get Another Won right.
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i will. give me a moment
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namgalsipsclar you got huge shoes to fill bro..good luck
Edit: oops you're going to sleep.
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he's going offline. so i choose
Pull me under
Lie
Take the time
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All have KevMo lyrics
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All the lyrics contain the word 'breath'
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All three have official music videos.
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Pull me under- Every breath leaves one less to my last
Lie- It's a wonder I can still breathe
Take the time- Just let me catch my breath
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nope
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nope
What!! But its true! :angry:
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They are the first three tracks on the Greatest Hit... album.
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nope
What!! But its true! :angry:
i know it is. but it was also true that the first lines in the songs in the last one all had the letter "s", but that wasn't the right answer
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Titles contain verbs.
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They are the first three tracks on the Greatest Hit... album.
CORRECT
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:D This shouldn't be too difficult.
Lines in the Sand
Surrounded
About to Crash
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All have badass keyboard intros.
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All have badass keyboard intros.
Affirmative!
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The Dance Of Eternity
Endless Sacrifice
Octavarium
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All have instrumental sections :neverusethis:
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Contain goofy Rudess moments.
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Nah
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All have guitar/keyboard unison solos/sections
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How obscure is this one?
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bump
All songs convey some type of infinity: Eternity, Endless while Octavarium's main theme is moving in circles, back where it began..etc
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They are your favorite songs from their respective album?
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You have seen all three songs performed live?
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Each song featured only once on live CD's/DVD's
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No.
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They all involve some sort of ragtime/improvisation part in the middle?
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Is it something to do with time sigs?
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They all begin with keyboards
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I think it's a good time to give us a clue
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Okay. You really don't have to listen to the songs to figure this one out.
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All the songs' lyrics (or, in the case of TDOE, the title) refer to the concept of endlessness or infinity.
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All the songs' lyrics (or, in the case of TDOE, the title) refer to the concept of endlessness or infinity.
Aye.
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Didn't mbarak already suggest that? :huh:
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Yes, he did.
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I concede my victory in that case.
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Oh, I didn't see that :lol
Mbarak wins. Sorry theseoafs :(
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Yay
alright, I don't believe there is a third DT song that share the same characteristic, so it's a Bibond:
Stream of Consciousness
Bridges in the Sky
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Yay
alright, I don't believe there is a third DT song that share the same characteristic, so it's a Bibond:
Stream of Consciousness
Bridges in the Sky
They are both 11:xx minutes long.
EDIT: realized there's more than 2 DT songs like that :facepalm:
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They are about discovering oneself in a "waking dream" and trying to rediscover/regain full control of their lives and souls
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Nope
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They are the only 2 Dream Theater songs between the lengths of 11:02 and 11:16
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They were both working titles of Dt albums
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They were both working titles of Dt albums
Bingo! I knew this question would attract some DTF veterans :tup
Your turn reneranucci
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Thank you! I just learned that on one of the recent threads :lol
Ok, my turn:
Pull me Under
Learning to Live
In the Presence of Enemies pts. 1 & 2
This shouldn't be that hard :)
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They all begin and end their respective albums
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They all begin and end their respective albums
That's true, but not what I had in mind.
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They all begin and end their respective albums
That's true, but not what I had in mind.
The lyrics are told from a first-person narrative?
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No, but HINT: it has to do with the lyrics
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Erm well Pull me under is based on hamlet and ITPoE is inspired by manga i think, but i dunno about LEarning to live. Something to do with what the lyrics are based on?
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They all deal with death?
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They're all based on past writings/literature
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Erm well Pull me under is based on hamlet and ITPoE is inspired by manga i think, but i dunno about LEarning to live. Something to do with what the lyrics are based on?
Yep, you're almost there.
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WHAT ABOUT ME
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They're all based on past writings/literature
Almost almost there. They're not only based on literary works, but they also..
They all deal with death?
Hey, this is true, too. Many songs have many things in common :lol
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Don't let Jamesman win, we all know what happens when he makes a tribond.... ;)
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Don't let Jamesman win, we all know what happens when he makes a tribond.... ;)
:lol I'm doing my best. Hopefully he'll keep guessing for a page or two more :P
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:-[ movies ? :neverusethis:
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They quote the works
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Based on plays?
(dear god don't let jamesman win)
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I wasn't aware that LtL's lyrics were based on anything.
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They quote the works
This! Congratulations jam... oh damn!
They have exact quotes from literary works:
LTL: "there's not time for pain no energy for anger..." (Atlas Shrugged)
PMU: "oh that this too solid flesh would melt" (Hamlet)
ITPOE: a bunch.
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I wasn't aware that LtL's lyrics were based on anything.
https://dreamtheater.wikia.com/wiki/Learning_to_Live
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Sweet, give me some time to figure out what songs and what common characteristic
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What's wrong with James choosing one? Is it going to be like that time I played 20 questions with someone and chose "yellow" as the thing they were guessing?
Two hours later, they were severely pissed off at me.
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Go easy on us James...
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Easy? IF YOU WANT EASY GO LISTEN TO LADY GAGA
THIS IS A PROG METAL BAND AND AS SUCH DUE TO THE NATURE OF THEIR MUSIC IT WILL BE HARDER THAN THE AVERAGE BEAR
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The Count of Tuscany
A Change of Seasons
The Spirit Carries On
This will be hard as fuck.
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It wouldn't surprise me if James chose three songs where the word "forevermore" was the 18th element of a Fibonacci sequence.
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Yeah, it's probably that level of complicated and out there.
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Ok let me guess, at 3:19 in each song, Rudess plays a G sharp
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They all start without drums/bass
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They all deal with death? Trivia: every Dt song has something to do with death
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They all start with only one instrument playing?
ACOS: Guitar
TCOT: Guitar
TSCO: Piano
EDIT: Having typed that out, I noticed the song titles look very similar when abbrevated... Hmm...
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Hmm... each title has 4 words in it? *tee hee* :laugh:
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"say"
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Based on what Acideus said: they all have carbon monoxide on their title?
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Ok this may be a little easy but anyway:
Learning to Live
Forsaken
Blind Faith
All 3 songs start with a keyboard?
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Ok this may be a little easy but anyway:
Learning to Live
Forsaken
Blind Faith
All 3 songs start with a keyboard?
I think you missed the other 5 pages of replies :lol
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All three end in 3/4
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Hmm... each title has 4 words in it? *tee hee* :laugh:
Based on what Acideus said: they all have carbon monoxide on their title?
These are on the right track somewhat
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No 'Z'in the titles?
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Ok this may be a little easy but anyway:
Learning to Live
Forsaken
Blind Faith
All 3 songs start with a keyboard?
I think you missed the other 5 pages of replies :lol
Ha! Yeah apparently I did
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All the titles have this structure: Article + noun + compliment
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Edit: ninja'd
Reneranucci your avatar is too distracting!
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If you take one letter of one title and swap it with one letter in one of the other titles you can get the name of another one of the songs.
e.g. swap the A in ACOS for the T in TSCO and then move the letters around.
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All the titles have this structure: Article + noun + compliment
No it's a lot more specific and retarded than that
If you take one letter of one title and swap it with one letter in one of the other titles you can get the name of another one of the songs.
e.g. swap the A in ACOS for the T in TSCO and then move the letters around.
Ok, now youre getting even more on the right track, though not quite there yet
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ACOS is from ACOS
TCOT is from BCSL
TSCO is from SFAM
Their respective albums also have 4 letters? I dunno.
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No, now youre moving away from it
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As initials they all have CO in them
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The C is neither at the beginning or end of any title?
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Based on what Acideus said: they all have carbon monoxide on their title?
Do not breathe while listening then.
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Since he said it was at an insane level:
The three titles combined have 17 syllables.
If we switch a single syllable word from either of the 6 syllable titles to the other 6 syllable title (TCOT to TSCO or viceversa) and put it in the middle, then the syllable count ends up 5 / 7 / 5 , which, combined with the total of 17 syllables, would make it have the structure of a haiku.
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So is it definitely to do with the titles of songs or do lyrics come into it as well?
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Since he said it was at an insane level:
The three titles combined have 17 syllables.
If we switch a single syllable word from either of the 6 syllable titles to the other 6 syllable title (TCOT to TSCO or viceversa) and put it in the middle, then the syllable count ends up 5 / 7 / 5 , which, combined with the total of 17 syllables, would make it have the structure of a haiku.
:|
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As initials they all have CO in them
The C is neither at the beginning or end of any title?
Ok, the C is a part of it.
Since he said it was at an insane level:
The three titles combined have 17 syllables.
If we switch a single syllable word from either of the 6 syllable titles to the other 6 syllable title (TCOT to TSCO or viceversa) and put it in the middle, then the syllable count ends up 5 / 7 / 5 , which, combined with the total of 17 syllables, would make it have the structure of a haiku.
I wish it were that retarded. :lol
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So is it definitely to do with the titles of songs or do lyrics come into it as well?
You could know this (eventually, after 2 years probably) without ever hearing the songs or reading the lyrics.
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Since he said it was at an insane level:
The three titles combined have 17 syllables.
If we switch a single syllable word from either of the 6 syllable titles to the other 6 syllable title (TCOT to TSCO or viceversa) and put it in the middle, then the syllable count ends up 5 / 7 / 5 , which, combined with the total of 17 syllables, would make it have the structure of a haiku.
O_o Mind. Blown.
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Three of the letters on one of the longer words are repeated on the other long word, and you can compose another word with those letters:
Change Seasons: a,n,e from change are repeated on seasons. You can form the word "ANE"
Count Tuscany: c,u,t,n from count are repeated on tuscany. You can form the word "CUNT"
Spirit Carries: s,i,r are repeated in carries. You can form the word "SIR"
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Three of the letters on one of the longer words are repeated on the other long word, and you can compose another word with those letters:
Change Seasons: a,n,e from change are repeated on seasons. You can form the word "ANE"
Count Tuscany: c,u,t,n from count are repeated on tuscany. You can form the word "CUNT"
Spirit Carries: s,i,r are repeated in carries. You can form the word "SIR"
So you are pretty much there...except a bit off on the word choice and method
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Using the first letter of each of the words in the titles you can create the anagram TACO COST COST
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No youre moving away from the idea
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Only DT songs with acronyms of 4 letters one of them is c
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No, rena was more on the right track
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If you combine the letters of the words that start with C, you can form the words that don't start with C:
Change, Carries, Count gives you the letters c h a n g e r i s o u n t
With those letters, you can form Seasons, sirit and tuscani :lol
Ok, another shot: if you combine the letters of the words that start with c, you get the 5 vowels. The same happens if you combine the letters of the words that don't start with c.
If I'm wrong, I'll check this thread when it reaches page 10.
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The Count Carries Change?
Wait.
Count=5 Letters
Change=6 Letters
Carries=7 Letters.
The words that start with "C" have consecutive number of letters.
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Jamesman is destroying my thread.
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None of the words with C contain the word "duck".
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Jamesman is destroying my thread.
And my life. I've been trying to puzzle together words using the song titles for half an hour now. :'(
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The Count Carries Change?
Wait.
Count=5 Letters
Change=6 Letters
Carries=7 Letters.
The words that start with "C" have consecutive number of letters.
This! And the ones that don't start with C have all 7 letters (except for Spirit which you can change to spirits)! And DT auditioned 7 drummers! The ultimate nugget!
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Three of the letters on one of the longer words are repeated on the other long word, and you can compose another word with those letters:
Change Seasons: a,n,e from change are repeated on seasons. You can form the word "ANE"
Count Tuscany: c,u,t,n from count are repeated on tuscany. You can form the word "CUNT"
Spirit Carries: s,i,r are repeated in carries. You can form the word "SIR"
So you are pretty much there...except a bit off on the word choice and method
Word choice? So like, is it that you were going for the word 'nut' or 'cut' instead of 'cunt'?
Just ruling that out.
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He said it was wrong on word choice and method, which pretty much means it's all wrong.
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The letters that appear on all three acronyms are COS. Jamesman loves math, so we have to do the cosine of something.
ACOS 23:06 which is 1386 seconds
TCOT 19:16 which is 1156 seconds
TSCO 6:38 which is 398 seconds
Total = 2940 seconds
Cosine of 2940 is 0,500000000000003 which is remarkably close to 0,5 which is a half.
We've all wasted half our lives on Jamesman's riddle.
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lol
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I think you should call Xanthul correct even if he isn't. Gotta love the effort!
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Jamesman is evil
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lol
HAVE YOU QUESTIONED ALL THE MADNESS YOU INVITE?
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lol
HAVE YOU QUESTIONED ALL THE MADNESS YOU INVITE?
*laughs*
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Change
Count
Carries
All three only share the letter C.
Seasons
Tuscany
Spirit
All three only share the letter S.
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Keep the c and the s now
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CS = Charlie Sheen?
Captain Sparrow?
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HINT: You can use the letters in each title to make this 4-letter word.
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Scan?
Cans?
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CASE?
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Disc?
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Cans?
WINNER
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I make this thread fun, no?
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Wow. Just wow. :lol
Take the Time
Scarred
The Ministry of Lost Souls
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Fade-out endings.
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Fade-out endings.
That was fast. You're up.
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I had to be faster than jamesman to prevent a tragedy.
1. A Change Of Seasons
2. In The Name Of God
3. Octavarium
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They all end their respective...discs...if you dont count the covers
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They're all the longest song on their albums/discs?
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True, but not what I'm thinking of.
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They all feature JLB screaming in some way.
I'M SICK OF ALL YOU HYPOCRITES
JUSTIFYING VIOLENCE
TRAPPED INSIDE THIS OCTAVARIUM
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They all feature a bass breakdown
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Nope.
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They all feature long unisons
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The titles are all five syllables long.
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The titles are all five syllables long.
Yeah, you're right.
And Jamesman is not.
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Just you watch since you said that next time I win it'll be impossible to get mine :yarr
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Sweet. Ok
Lifting Shadows Off A Dream
The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun
A Change Of Seasons
(Yes, I know, ACOS again, but it was the least obvious of few songs which have this in common)
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Wild guess, bass harmonics?
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DAMNIT
Yes.
Edit: Nicely done.
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Edit: Nope. I was wrong.
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Haha, sweet!
Give me some time to think of a new one.
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I had to use ACOS, as the only other ones I could think of have it very obviously in the intro.
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I had to use ACOS, as the only other ones I could think of have it very obviously in the intro.
Lines in the Sand would've been a good one
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It really would have been, but I didn't realise it had them. :(
Edit: It's taken me twenty minutes, but I've just figured out where the bass harmonics are.
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UGH! I wanna win! I've got a really good one.
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Here you go.
1. Finally Free
2. Repentance
3. Raise The Knife
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They all take a minute and a half until the vocals come in?
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I think it has something to do with their length
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Portnoy lyrics
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No to all.
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They all have parts that have to do with writing (note, publishing, etc...)
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They all have extensive endings that repeat the same riff?
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Nope.
This might be a tough one.
Not jamesman-difficult but just a little.
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They all end in "e"
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They all have to do with destroying a relationship?
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All of them dealing with the theme of letting go?
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Hint: you'll have to look in the lyrics.
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Yeah...I got nuthin.
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MY FRIEND
(it's in each set of lyrics)
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MY FRIEND
(it's in each set of lyrics)
Good job!
(Got the idea from this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnXwlH_hzeQ)
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UGH!!!!!!!
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I think it was the tenth readthrough before I saw that.
Ok
In The Presence Of Enemies
Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence
Under A Glass Moon
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I'll get the ball rolling...
in, inner and under...all have to do with something/someone being somewhere.
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Nope, it's more subtle than that.
ok, I've noticed views are going up, but no replies. Therefore I shall provide a hint.
It's less what do the songs have so much as what they all don't have with most do.
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bump :sadpanda:
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It's less what do the songs have so much as what they all don't have with most do.
I have no clue what this means
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Sorry, that should read: what they don't have WHICH most do. Sorry, typo.
ok: another clue. Think of Wither, Home or Peruvian Skies. What do they have which ITPOE, UAGM and SDOIT notably don't have?
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They don't have the title of the song in the lyrics?
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Yup
(sorry, I was kinda trying to make it a lot easier than I had got it originally, as it's getting late here)
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They don't have the title of the song in the lyrics?
UAGM basically does
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Nah I'm really surprised no one picked it up earlier.
I'm gonna go to sleep soon, so I'll give my turn to Marion Crane. Let's see what you got :coolio
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if he doesn't start soon, i'll say mine. i think its quite good
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kk. mine is
Through her eyes
Speak to me
Outcry
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Dammit! Just missed it!
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kk. mine is
Through her eyes
Speak to me
Outcry
I'm gonna go out on a limb and predict it is NOT lyrics-related, as I just can't see a connection.
If I get it, marion, you can have my turn.
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Obvious one..all have piano sections
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that is true, but not what im thinking
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All songs rhyme in a similar way in their last line(s)
Looking through her eyes
Tell me all your feeling inside
As our children die
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:tdwn
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Is it electric drum beats? I know Outcry and Through Her Eyes do, but Im not sure about Speak to Me.
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Is it electric drum beats? I know Outcry and Through Her Eyes do, but Im not sure about Speak to Me.
correct
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Here we go:
1. Honor Thy Father
2. 6.00
3. Sacrificed Sons
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Sample Using in all three:
1. "The fucking regrets" part
2. "I know all about the honor of God, Mary Jane" part
3. 9/11 News report in the intro
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Well that didnt last long. You got it! :tup
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Well that didnt last long. You got it! :tup
Awesome! :myungwoot:
I'm gonna think about mine.
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The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun
Another Day
The Shattered Fortress
Might be a bit tricky.
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TOWHTSTS and TSF have bass harmonics, but I doubt Another day has. Other than that there's nothing similar about them that I know...
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No, it isn't about that.
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lol, good.
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I can't think of anything those have in common except that they are among my least favorites on their respective albums. So, just to guess...
Those are your least favorites on their respective albums? :lol
I'm bad at this game.
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Wild guess. Is it related to sleep/night?
TOWHTST - Sun set.
AD - Another day, overnight.
TSF - Shattered (slang for tired)
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Nope to both.
Here's a clue that should give it away: Don't check inside the songs. Check the surroundings ;)
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Both next to a song about the band/music business/writing songs?
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The songs after them have the word time in the titles.
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The songs after them have the word time in the titles.
Bingo. You're next!
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Lie
Burning My Soul
Misunderstood
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Lie
Burning My Soul
Misunderstood
Animal reference in the lyrics?
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Lie
Burning My Soul
Misunderstood
Animal reference in the lyrics?
Nice job!
Lie - dogs
Burning My Soul - ape
Misunderstood - lion
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Finally!!!!!! Ok here goes ....
The Count of Tuscany
Scarred
Voices
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They all contain questions in the lyrics
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True but no
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All three deal with fear? (Voices and Scarred have it in the lyrics, TCOT has it as a major thematic element)
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Ok a hint....it's not lyrical
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They're all in the same key
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All have guitar (including bass guitar) intros.
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they all build up after an intro
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All have guitar (including bass guitar) intros.
Kinda on the right track. I can't believe I'm stumping Jamesman. You guys are gonna kick yourselves when you figure it out.
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All three have volume swells?
Not at all sure about this. But I know TCOT does, I THINK Scarred does, and I'm not even vaguely sure about Voices. So, throwing it out there.
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All three have volume swells?
Not at all sure about this. But I know TCOT does, I THINK Scarred does, and I'm not even vaguely sure about Voices. So, throwing it out there.
BOOM!!!!
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Honestly not sure if that means I'm correct or not. :lol
EDIT: I guess I am, since Marion seems to have gone offline. Should I go ahead?
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Yes.
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Yeah you got it son!
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Woohoo!
I think mine's probably pretty easy, but oh well. Can't come up with anything better.
As I Am
The Test That Stumped Them All
Burning My Soul
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EDIT: :facepalm: I'm an idiot.
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Curse words
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Curse words
See? Easy peasy. :)
All yours again, Marion.
(EDIT: Crap. Just thought of a better one. :lol)
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I only knew that because I was gonna do that next
Space Dye Vest
TMOLS
Disappear
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I only knew that because I was gonna do that next
Space Dye Vest
TMOLS
Disappear
All ballads/semi ballads that end their respective discs? (If you count ITPOE as one opening track. Eh, I already know this is wrong.)
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Ok this is tough and but I'll give a strong hint....
Guitar players should know the answer
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All in the same key?
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All of them... have... guitar parts? :lol This time I'm completely clueless.
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Ok another hint.....it's a guitar-gear answer
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All use Wah-wah?
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Ok I'll give it a few more posts then I'll give another hint
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1 post
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2 posts
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3 posts
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As im not really a guitarist, i probably wont get it but ill guess anyway. Were all three recorded with a particular guitar that Petrucci has not used on any other tracks?
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7-string?
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Ok....it's something JP uses to produce a certain effect. If you've watched the behind the scenes of "awake" you'll see him using this
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Erm.... A pedal............of some sort?
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i'm on the case
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either the fader pedal of the fret spray?
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Going out on a hunch.
They all use the e-bow?
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I now know the answer, but only because of shameless googling.
EDIT: And hacko beat me to it anyway.
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Going out on a hunch.
They all use the e-bow?
DING DING DING!!!
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Ok easy one that I did on the fly:
Strange Deja Vu
Lines In The Sand
Voices
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they all start carrying on from another song?
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On the right track, but not the EXACT answer I chose em for.
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Um, each contains a specific melody used in another song?
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the all come after instrumentals?
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ollie's right. Gratz!
however, if Jaffa's is true that's a hell of a nugget :p I'm gonna give em a listen :rollin
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however, if Jaffa's is true that's a hell of a nugget :p I'm gonna give em a listen :rollin
Don't listen too hard. As far as I know, they don't. I was flat-out guessing. :lol
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:hat
i think my one may be quite challenging. we'll see :P
Take the time
Another Day
The dark eternal night
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I'll get it started just to see a post increase.
They all have Portnoy vocals at one point or another?
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I'm stumped. The only thing I can think of is that they all have lyrics from John Petrucci, and that answer is even weaker than usual since he's not even the sole lyricist of all of them.
Hmmm...
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If you take another time of a day, it would be a dark eternal night?
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They've extended them for live shows.
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no, but it is to do with live instead of studio
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Ok maybe it's not this way but here goes.
On the European Leg of the Chaos In Motion tour, the only tour ever that featured all three songs, they were in the rotation in such a way that at least one of them and never all three of them were played on any given show.
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Take the time
Another Day
The dark eternal night
In TTT and Another Day there they skip parts of the songs so that James doesn't sing them. Does it have anything to do with that?
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nope :)
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All contain harmonised parts at some point, so when played live, they can't play/sing these parts as heard on the album?
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All contain harmonised parts at some point, so when played live, they can't play/sing these parts as heard on the album?
nope :P i'll give a clue. it's not to do with the actual music of the songs or how they play them live.
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You've seen all three songs live?
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nope. it's nothing personal
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All contain harmonised parts at some point, so when played live, they can't play/sing these parts as heard on the album?
nope :P i'll give a clue. it's not to do with the actual music of the songs or how they play them live.
All the three of them end live with a slightly elongated instrumental section (guitar solo in TTT, keyboard and occasionaly guitar in AD and continuum in TDEN) since they all fade out in their studio version.
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you're heading the right direction
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even though i said its not to do with the actual music or how they play them live
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They all contain a part with a spotlight on one of the members of the band?
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bump
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A music video was released for each song.
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They all contain a part with a spotlight on one of the members of the band?
very close
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I'm pretty sure TDEN didn't have a video, unless you call the animation played on the concerts a video.
Another informed guess:
They've all been followed by a keyboard/piano solo on live performances:
TTT by a DS solo on 5yrs in a livetime
Another Day by a JR solo in Live Scenes from NY
TDEN by a JR solo in Chaos in Motion
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Didn't TDEN have the in-studio footage.
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They all contain a part where the light show imitates what someone is playing?
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All three have on screen animations during a live show?
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Didn't TDEN have the in-studio footage.
Yep that's what I meant but it seems it's far from the answer. Will sit in for the next question.
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They've all been followed by a keyboard/piano solo on live performances:
TTT by a DS solo on 5yrs in a livetime
Another Day by a JR solo in Live Scenes from NY
TDEN by a JR solo in Chaos in Motion
correct, my good man
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Ok let's see another one, featuring a song from the previous one:
Another Day
Innocence Faded
Hollow Years
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They all have very short JP solos.
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True, but cold.
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another day is track 2 of its album
innocence faded is track 3 of its album
and hollow years is track 4 off its album
so the track numbers increase by 1
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ALMOST there.
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They're all the first ballads on their respective album?
EDIT: Actually no, wouldn't call IF a ballad.
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ollie was a lot closer
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Hollow years: 4th on Budokan
Another day: 5th on Live at the Marquee
Innocence faded: 6th on Score
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Their track numbers match their album numbers in chronological order. Another Day is track 2 of their second studio album, IF is track 3 of their third studio album, Hollow Years is track 4 of their fourth.
I was going to do this exact one myself, except with A Fortune In Lies instead of Innocence Faded.
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Jaffa's right!
I originally thought of doing 6DOIT - ITNOG - 8VARIUM but thought it would either be too easy or too out of left field since technically 6DOIT is track 1 on disc 2 instead of track 6. Think you would've gotten that?
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Excellent. Except you stole my idea. :lol
EDIT: Well, I think I would have. True, SDOIT would be sort of debatable, but those three albums are notable for having the same number of songs as their album number, so it would have stood out like a sore thumb to me. I think you made the right choice going with 2-3-4. Might have taken a while for anybody to get it if I hadn't been planning the exact same thing. :P
Umm...
Take the Time
Caught in a Web
Breaking All Illusions
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Ok once again to test the waters:
All three have the word LIFE on the lyrics.
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Nope.
Well, yep, but not what I had in mind.
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Lyrics credited to more than one band member (TTT credited to Dream Theater)
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Lyrics credited to more than one band member (TTT credited to Dream Theater)
Mbarak got it. Very good (or it was just easy, not sure).
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NO, very hard, but I'm just that smart...I think (Edit: I noticed you deleted the last part haha)
Alright, here it goes:
The Spirit Carries On
Speak to Me
The Answer Lies Within
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It seems that this thread has died away. I partially blame Jamesman :P
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Well I just got home so I'm ready to try with this one:
They all have Pink Floyd influences/references ?
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I'm not a big Pink Floyd fan so I wouldn't know. Has nothing to do with how they sound.
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No time signature changes.
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I think this one is true, but not what I'm going for
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They've all been augmented someway for a live DVD?
(Spirit: Ext. intro and gospel choir. Speak: Real drums all the way through. Answer: Score orchestra.)
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NO, very hard, but I'm just that smart...I think (Edit: I noticed you deleted the last part haha)
Alright, here it goes:
The Spirit Carries On
Speak to Me
The Answer Lies Within
All of them were played in the Octavarium tour?
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No, it has nothing to do with any live performances.
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No, it has nothing to do with any live performances.
They all end with the Instrumental > Last Chorus > Instrumental Outro pattern? :lol
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Next thing someone will say they have notes that are on a Dream Theater song :-X
I'm trying to think of a hint without giving too much out..I'll give it a bit of more time.
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Next thing someone will say they have notes that are on a Dream Theater song :-X
I'm trying to think of a hint without giving too much out..I'll give it a bit of more time.
It's been almost 24 hours I think a hint is in order :P
Ill throw something out and say that they are all ballads?
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Hmm..alright..think Jordan Rudess
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Notes on a Dream.
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You got it.
And I basically spelled the answer earlier Next thing someone will say they have notes that are on a Dream Theater song :-X
I'm trying to think of a hint without giving too much out..I'll give it a bit of more time.
You're up ddtonfire
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Nice... now I have to come up with one. Give me a little bit people.
::devil::
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Next thing someone will say they have notes that are on a Dream Theater song :-X
I'm trying to think of a hint without giving too much out..I'll give it a bit of more time.
Now I see this was a hint :P
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Ok, here goes...
Under A Glass Moon
6:00
Raw Dog
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Anybody who listens to Raw Dog to remember what it sounds like to find a similarity deserves to win this by default. :lol
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Anybody who listens to Raw Dog to remember what it sounds like to find a similarity deserves to win this by default. :lol
And what about me who listened to 6:00 to remember what it sounds like to find a similarity? :neverusethis:
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They all start with a single instrument?
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Ugh Raw Dog is such a piece of turd :tdwn
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They all start with a single instrument?
6:00 is the only one for which this is true. Raw Dog has guitar/drums/bass (maybe lol) and UAGM has guitar/keyboards.
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Hey stop hijacking my tribond with your opinions!
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Hey stop hijacking my tribond with your opinions!
Sorry! :blush
Its just I can't stand raw dog, but I'll try and answer the puzzle.
Is it that they are your 3 favourite songs?
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Nope, nothing personal.
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They all start with a single instrument?
6:00 is the only one for which this is true. Raw Dog has guitar/drums/bass (maybe lol) and UAGM has guitar/keyboards.
Hmmm, it sounds like you might not have even heard Raw Dog, so maybe it doesnt have to do with the music :P
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:facepalm:
It was a joke about how low JMX is in the mix for Raw Dog.
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Each share a word with another DT song
The Glass Prison
6DOIT
War Inside My Head
Yeah I can't listen to the songs now to find anything common musically :-[
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:facepalm:
It was a joke about how low JMX is in the mix for Raw Dog.
Ah, Ok, cant blame a guy for tryin.
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Each share a word with another DT song
The Glass Prison
6DOIT
War Inside My Head
Yeah I can't listen to the songs now to find anything common musically :-[
Good try, but Raw≠War
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Ok, here goes...
Under A Glass Moon
6:00
Raw Dog
They all end suddenly?
I love Raw Dog by the way.
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I wouldn't have really said the endings are sudden, they seem to be well structured endings. If they are sudden then so is most of DTs catalogue
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Ok, here goes...
Under A Glass Moon
6:00
Raw Dog
They all end suddenly?
I love Raw Dog by the way.
I was thinking the same...
They all had silly working titles? (The Battle Of Jimmy Cocoa and Fishface, Beachhouse Reality and Raw Dog)
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Nope
and nope... but nice find!
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They all have a solo spanning over multiple segments of music? This is a guess based on NOT going back and listening. :coolio
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Wow, people can't get themselves to listen to Raw Dog even to answer the question :facepalm:
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They all have a solo spanning over multiple segments of music? This is a guess based on NOT going back and listening. :coolio
Not what I was thinking of!
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Wow, people can't get themselves to listen to Raw Dog even to answer the question :facepalm:
I listened to it. Not that bad, actually. Still couldn't figure out anything from it though. :(
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Wow, people can't get themselves to listen to Raw Dog even to answer the question :facepalm:
I listened to it. Not that bad, actually. Still couldn't figure out anything from it though. :(
I was joking, i actually like it.
But since you are already here Blob, when are we going to see the new DT animations on your website? The snippits I saw from crappy youtube videos looked really good!
Temporary thread hijack, sorry
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Really hard to find specific things in common between these songs
Drums of each song end with some double bass work?
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Are they all in the same key?
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Not what I was thinking of, and nope. I'll give a hint later this evening if it isn't figured out by then.
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Ok so this probably applies to most DT songs and I'm probably clutching at straws but is it to do with time signatures? What I was thinking of was that in both 6:00 and UAGM there are repeated sections that are in 4/4 (I think) for the most part, but the end of the passage is in a different time sig
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Ok, here goes...
Under A Glass Moon
6:00
Raw Dog
I think I might have it. All 3 songs share the same intro and outro. Well, you need to count the "I know all about the honor of God Mary Jane" of 6:00 as the beginning, but that's the best I got. UAGM and Raw Dog certainly do this.
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Nope and nope.
Hint: one is a red herring.
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The number 6.
6:00 (obvious)
UAGM = track 6
Raw Dog = 6 letters
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Nope and nope.
Hint: one is a red herring.
A red herring? How could that be? Are you saying that two link together and the other is not connected and simply leads us off the trail (i.e. a red herring)? Wouldn't that go against the rules?
Or maybe one has to do with Scooby Doo or a Fish...
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The number 6.
6:00 (obvious)
UAGM = track 6
Raw Dog = 6 letters
Cool find, but nope!
And no rules are being broken, they all still have this in common...
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Alright, hint two:
It has to do with a lack of something.
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They don't contain a definite article?
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Haha, but nope.
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None feature lyrics by Mike Portnoy?
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True, but you could say the same thing about JMX or JLB, so not what I was thinking.
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Do you need to listen to the song to get it?
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I'm pretty sure none of them have backing vocals. If that's the case, then Raw Dog would be a red herring, since it has no vocals at all.
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OMG are we still on this one??
I think there should be a time limit before pertinent information should be divulged.
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I'm pretty sure none of them have backing vocals. If that's the case, then Raw Dog would be a red herring, since it has no vocals at all.
Ding ding ding ding! Winner!
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Okay, here's mine. I don't think it's too hard, but it's not obvious either.
Pull Me Under
Bombay Vindaloo
Goodnight Kiss
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They're all in the tonality/key of E? (that's only partial at best anyway)
I don't know Bombay Vindaloo at all, so I'm basing that on the first 3 seconds that I've actually heard. :lol
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None have a true 'outro'. Pull Me Under cuts off, Bombay Vindaloo is sortof improvised and Goodnight Kiss segues straight into Solitary Shell.
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Nope to both.
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Erm all three have been included on a live album?I dont know enough about Bombay Vindaloo to say much more
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They all start with clean guitar sound?
EDIT: :facepalm: forget it
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Each song title includes a letter in double form (ll, oo, both oo and ss for GK)
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I was gunna say that! Well, I was looking for double vowels when I saw the oo.
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Erm all three have been included on a live album?I dont know enough about Bombay Vindaloo to say much more
Close, but not exactly.
Each song title includes a letter in double form (ll, oo, both oo and ss for GK)
I didn't notice this at all. That's actually better than what I'm thinking of :lol
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All three have been played after A Fortune in Lies? ??? ??? ???
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All three have been played live straight after a song from When Dream and Day unite
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All three have been played live straight after a song from When Dream and Day unite
Yep! :tup
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Sweet! ;D
Constant Motion
Pull Me Under
Panic Attack
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They're all on RB/GH
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They're all on RB/GH
Well that didn't take long! :tup
I'll have to make it harder next time
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Lie
Repentance
The Mirror
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All have spoken word samples in them?
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All have spoken word samples in them?
Nope
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All played on 7-strings?
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All played on 7-strings?
Nope
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They all reprise certain songs?
Mirror SDV
Lie Mirror
Repentance This Dying Soul
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They all reprise certain songs?
Mirror SDV
Lie Mirror
Repentance This Dying Soul
Very cool about SDV, but no.
This one is kind of tough (I thought)
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Damn, thought it was that!
How about they all refer to mirrors/The Mirror.
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When is SDV reprised in the Mirror?
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Damn, thought it was that!
How about they all refer to mirrors/The Mirror.
Nope.
A few more guesses and I'll give a hint
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When is SDV reprised in the Mirror?
5:16. Sound familiar?
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When is SDV reprised in the Mirror?
5:16. Sound familiar?
I'm not sure how I didn't notice that. :facepalm:
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They have Trust/Trusting in the lyrics!
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When is SDV reprised in the Mirror?
5:16. Sound familiar?
I'm not sure how I didn't notice that. :facepalm:
No worries. =D I actually didn't catch it myself until someone pointed it out to me, so.
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They have Trust/Trusting in the lyrics!
Nope.
Hint: owning the making of Systematic Chaos and Live in Tokyo will help
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Puppies on Acid... Kittens on Crack.. Fisheye!
They all reference animals in their working titles.
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Clever girl.
If that's not the right answer, he should win anyway.
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Puppies on Acid... Kittens on Crack.. Fisheye!
They all reference animals in their working titles.
My hint was too good! Correct!
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Alright, popping up town for an hour or two... I'll have a think and post one later today. :)
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Make it one that I can get! I have already though of a couple I can ask, which I hope aren't too easy!
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OK, let's see how this one goes.
Peruvian Skies
Surrounded
Octavarium
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Introductions all start with just one instrument
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Nope.
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Well this is a little vague, but all three songs have distinctively different sounding sections
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If it was just the first two, I'd say they've both been played live with sections of another band's song stuck in, but I don't think they've ever done that for Octavarium.
The only other thing I can think of is that they all have a female character in them. :lol
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If it was just the first two, I'd say they've both been played live with sections of another band's song stuck in, but I don't think they've ever done that for Octavarium.
The only other thing I can think of is that they all have a female character in them. :lol
Unless you count Jingle Bells. ;)
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Not really in common, but each song was recorded by one of DT keyboardists.
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OK, let's see how this one goes.
Peruvian Skies
Surrounded
Octavarium
Each song was played live in at least one tour with an extended intro played by Jordan Rudess on one of his side instruments (Lap Steel Guitar for PS in 2005/2006, Continuum for Octa in the same years and Memotron - was it called that way? - for Surrounded in 2007).
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They all incorporate Pink Floyd references or have done in live performances?
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If it was just the first two, I'd say they've both been played live with sections of another band's song stuck in, but I don't think they've ever done that for Octavarium.
The only other thing I can think of is that they all have a female character in them. :lol
Unless you count Jingle Bells. ;)
Well, shit. What do I do? I was gonna drop a hint later on highlighting Octavarium as somewhat of a red herring, but you've both somehow gotten the answer right between you. :lol
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I'm fine with a fight to the death. I either win, or I die with honour, so it's really a win-win.
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If it was just the first two, I'd say they've both been played live with sections of another band's song stuck in, but I don't think they've ever done that for Octavarium.
The only other thing I can think of is that they all have a female character in them. :lol
Unless you count Jingle Bells. ;)
Well, shit. What do I do? I was gonna drop a hint later on highlighting Octavarium as somewhat of a red herring, but you've both somehow gotten the answer right between you. :lol
Mh, the three of them are somehow inspired by or dedicated to other people?
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I'm fine with a fight to the death. I either win, or I die with honour, so it's really a win-win.
:yarr
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So who wants it? Everything's up for grabs!
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I'll post one that shouldn't take too long and is bending the rules at only two songs.
Solitary Shell
Octavarium
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I'll post one that shouldn't take too long and is bending the rules at only two songs.
Solitary Shell
Octavarium
Mh, the "characters" are lost inside some metaphorical oppressive reality? ("lost within himself in a solitary shell" and "trapped inside this Octavarium")
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Both feature single-voiced keyboard solos.
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Nope and nope.
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12-string guitars.
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Nope and nope.
It has to do with the music itself? Or is it a live thing?
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Something within the song.
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They both have similar endings, maybe even the same note (from memory, can't listen to the songs now)
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Not what I'm looking for.
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They both use the word "catatonic".
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They both use the word "catatonic".
Correct!!
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Yay! :biggrin: Alright, mine:
Under a Glass Moon
Metropolis Part 1
Learning To Live
This one is a little challenging. And no, it's not that they're all on I&W.
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they all begin with keyboards
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Nope.
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Yay! :biggrin: Alright, mine:
Under a Glass Moon
Metropolis Part 1
Learning To Live
This one is a little challenging. And no, it's not that they're all on I&W.
All of them were written before JLB joined the band.
All of them were played at his first gig with DT.
All of them were both used as show opener and as encores.
All of them featured live one (or more) F#5 by JLB.
None of the above.
EDIT:
All of them were part of medleys. (When IAW Unite, Encore Medley, 1998 Medley)
All of them have a bass spot.
Ok, maybe I'm trying too hard :rollin :rollin
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Yay! :biggrin: Alright, mine:
Under a Glass Moon
Metropolis Part 1
Learning To Live
This one is a little challenging. And no, it's not that they're all on I&W.
All of them featured live one (or more) F#5 by JLB.
This was the right answer. Damn, was hoping it'd last longer. :lol
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This was the right answer. Damn, was hoping it'd last longer. :lol
Ahaha, not when the biggest fan of James's extreme range is around :tup
So, since I've been trying to get this spot forever, I've come up with as much as seven triads. I'll post all of them but two, which are probably too easy.
The first who gets one right wins and the game will carry on. So, basically, you only have five times more chances to get the spot, no tricks. It's a bargain! :lol
Pull Me Under
Gangland (IM cover)
The Silent Man
The Killing Hand
Ouctry
New Millennium
A Vision
Overture 1928
The Best Of Times
Disappear
Prophets Of War
Scarred
You Not Me
Disappear
Hell's Kitchen
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I can't even figure out one of them :lol
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You Not Me
Disappear
Hell's Kitchen
Is it to do with the number of times they've been played live? (ok, just realized we have a working list here, and I'm wrong on that one thanks to Hell's Kitchen)
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I just noticed that DTF's tourography counts Burning My Soul '96 for Hell's Kitchen, which I wouldn't, and don't. And MP's tourography isn't even usable at all right now, so I can't use that to check how many times it's been played. So how many times has *Hell's Kitchen* been played live? I think that might work for all 3 songs having not been played many times live.
You Not Me - 3 times
Disappear - 2 times
Hell's Kitchen - ??? profit?
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I just noticed that DTF's tourography counts Burning My Soul '96 for Hell's Kitchen, which I wouldn't, and don't. And MP's tourography isn't even usable at all right now, so I can't use that to check how many times it's been played. So how many times has *Hell's Kitchen* been played live? I think that might work for all 3 songs having not been played many times live.
You Not Me - 3 times
Disappear - 2 times
Hell's Kitchen - ??? profit?
Ok, the answer is basically this one. I wrongfully assumed YNM had only been played twice, it seems that I missed one in my count... As far as I'm aware Hell's Kitchen was only played in some December 98 shows. So, maybe three times.
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Does this mean I can come up with one now? :biggrin:
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Does this mean I can come up with one now? :biggrin:
If you're asking my permission I would say "no" since you cracked the simplest (and less intriguing) of them all. But rules are rules, aren't they? :smiley:
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Soooo..are we supposed to answer another one of wasteland's questions or should BVD provide a new question?
I personally prefer the latter to get the ball rolling.
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I vote for the latter. I got one fair and square! :lol
I already have one ready to go too.
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Ok I'm a little scared now. I hope I don't regret my vote.
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Yup I think we give BVD the turn, he got one right
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Ok, I think it's fair for me to post one. If wasteland thought the one I guessed was too easy, then he shouldn't have posted it. :biggrin:
Here we go (might be easy, might be hard. No idea)-
A Fortune in Lies
The Dark Eternal Night
Trial of Tears
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Studio versions of each song have different keyboard players
EDIT: Thats not a similarity, its a difference, silly me :facepalm:
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Ok, I think it's fair for me to post one. If wasteland thought the one I guessed was too easy, then he shouldn't have posted it. :biggrin:
Here we go (might be easy, might be hard. No idea)-
A Fortune in Lies
The Dark Eternal Night
Trial of Tears
They include all former members of DT: CD, KM, DS and MP
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Ok, I think it's fair for me to post one. If wasteland thought the one I guessed was too easy, then he shouldn't have posted it. :biggrin:
Here we go (might be easy, might be hard. No idea)-
A Fortune in Lies
The Dark Eternal Night
Trial of Tears
They include all former members of DT: CD, KM, DS and MP
Nope. Although since MP counts now, this could apply to every tribond of songs pre-ADTOE. :lol
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Ok, I think it's fair for me to post one. If wasteland thought the one I guessed was too easy, then he shouldn't have posted it. :biggrin:
Here we go (might be easy, might be hard. No idea)-
A Fortune in Lies
The Dark Eternal Night
Trial of Tears
They include all former members of DT: CD, KM, DS and MP
Nope. Although since MP counts now, this could apply to every tribond of songs pre-ADTOE. :lol
Every pre-ADTOE trio of songs would include at least ONE former DT member, but your trio includes ALL former DT members. That's what Mbarak meant (I think).
As for the Tribond, I have no clue whatsoever. :lol
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Can we get a clue?
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There have only been 2 guesses. Do you need a clue yet?
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There have only been 2 guesses. Do you need a clue yet?
Well... maybe not. :yeahright
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Does it have something to do with the fact that (lyrically) all 3 reference being trapped in a dream?
TDEN: "Trapped in a hellish dream/Spinning through worlds unseen"
AFIL: "What kind of imagination/Asleep in some lyrical coma"
ToT: "I'll dream with them one day"
Granted, ToT seems to be more about the inability to sleep and so being trapped in a waking dream...
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Does it have something to do with the fact that (lyrically) all 3 reference being trapped in a dream?
No, although it's a crafty guess. :)
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I think now might be time for a clue :P
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There have only been 2 guesses. Do you need a clue yet?
We shouldn't, but it looks like we do.
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Ok, I guess the first clue to narrow it down a bit-
It is a similarity you can get by just listening to the studio songs. It has nothing to do with the songs live, or any other obscure bit of trivia.
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I think Ive asked this for pretty much every one, but are they all in the same key?
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I know this was dead, but I'm still really curious about Blob's. :(
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So, we never got the answer for this.
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Pity. Let's resurrect this thread.
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I once posted these, you may try to crack one of them if you like :)
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Pull Me Under
Gangland (IM cover)
The Silent Man
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Disappear
Prophets Of War
Scarred
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Beneath The Surface
The Silent Man
Hollow Years
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Only A Matter Of Time
Scarred
Learning To Live
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Or, you know, people could actually take a guess at the current one. :lol
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To Blob's:
All songs finish with a solo in the last minute?
AFIL has the guitar solo
TDEN has the keyboard solo
TOT has the bass solo
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To Blob's:
All songs finish with a solo in the last minute?
AFIL has the guitar solo
TDEN has the keyboard solo
TOT has the bass solo
No, although it is a musical similarity that connects them, so you're getting on the right track.
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Or, you know, people could actually take a guess at the current one. :lol
You disappeared! (down the cellar stairs or into the darkness, you choose)
And before that you refused to give any hint! Now that the future life of this thread is jeopardized you should lay down your pride and give us some spoiling help! :rollin
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Or, you know, people could actually take a guess at the current one. :lol
You disappeared! (down the cellar stairs or into the darkness, you choose)
And before that you refused to give any hint! Now that the future life of this thread is jeopardized you should lay down your pride and give us some spoiling help! :rollin
I'm a stubborn man who doesn't give it up easily (hints, I mean).
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18 months later, and we still never figured out Blob's.
Anybody want to start this game up again?
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Did I kill the game? I'm sorry!
I think the common thread was that they all used bass chords. Too musical?
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I got one while ya wait..........if you wanna give it a go
Learning to Live
Solitary Shell
Silent Man
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They all feature acoustic guitar solos?
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That's a bingo!
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Sweet! Mine:
Metropolis
The Great Debate
Disappear
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Metropolis
The Great Debate
Disappear
is it something to do with the musical arrangement? I know Metropolis and the Great debate end on a D chord. Not sure about Disappear. haven't listened to that track for a long time.
Am anywhere near the right ballpark?
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Nope. Though, to be correct, it would have to be written like this:
Metropolis, Pt. 1: The Miracle and the Sleeper
The Great Debate
Disappear
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Nope. Though, to be correct, it would have to be written like this:
Metropolis, Pt. 1: The Miracle and the Sleeper
The Great Debate
Disappear
There's 2 A's in each song's name.
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Nope. Though, to be correct, it would have to be written like this:
Metropolis, Pt. 1: The Miracle and the Sleeper
The Great Debate
Disappear
There's 2 A's in each song's name.
Oh, those shouldn't be allowed :D
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This is an awesome game. :hefdaddy
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Nope. Though, to be correct, it would have to be written like this:
Metropolis, Pt. 1: The Miracle and the Sleeper
The Great Debate
Disappear
There's 2 A's in each song's name.
Oh, those shouldn't be allowed :D
I don't care, if it's right it will be my turn now :biggrin:
But yeah, it would be slightly lame, though I could gave come up with something similar.
Cone on, Scorp, confirm it! I have mine ready! :)
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Nope. Though, to be correct, it would have to be written like this:
Metropolis, Pt. 1: The Miracle and the Sleeper
The Great Debate
Disappear
There's 2 A's in each song's name.
Yes. :tup
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Good luck with this one, it's far-fetched and requires some random knowledge of DT history:
Finally Free
Metropolis Pt. 1
Learning to Live
(In that order)
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Good luck with this one, it's far-fetched and requires some random knowledge of DT history:
Finally Free
Metropolis Pt. 1
Learning to Live
(In that order)
All have an added section when played live at Lsfny and they are played in that order, but with songs in between mtpls and ltl
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Good luck with this one, it's far-fetched and requires some random knowledge of DT history:
Finally Free
Metropolis Pt. 1
Learning to Live
(In that order)
All have an added section when played live at Lsfny and they are played in that order, but with songs in between mtpls and ltl
I was about to say the same! The three of them had more or less improvised sections live! (not just in LSFNY, but also there)
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Good catch! But not exactly what I was looking for. You have the year right though (2000).
Go get 'm!
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I was about to say the same! The three of them had more or less improvised sections live! (not just in LSFNY, but also there)
Here's Wasteland again getting my idea after I've already had it... JUST KIDDING :lol
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All three were used to close the main set that year I think
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All three were used to close the main set that year I think
I wa checking the same thing, but I am unsure that FF was ever used as such regularly. AFAIK, it happened only in the reaharsal show for LSFNY: https://www.mikeportnoy.com/dates/tourography/?show=573
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the entire first half of the year 2000
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the entire first half of the year 2000
Ah, yeah... I never collected those shows... I just don't like that leg.
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All three were used to close the main set that year I think
Almost, just a bit more specific.
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Learning to Live, Metropolis Part 1 (In a medley with PMU, but it ended the medley), and Finally Free were the three songs used to end the main set at the shows in 2000. FF for the first part of the year, M in the middle, LTL for the last part of the year.
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Learning to Live, Metropolis Part 1 (In a medley with PMU, but it ended the medley), and Finally Free were the three songs used to end the main set at the shows in 2000. FF for the first part of the year, M in the middle, LTL for the last part of the year.
Yes, that's absolutely correct. Now be more specific on the time, location and show, because these three songs have something else in common. Good luck, you're almost there; the 'main set closer' thing is definitely correct and part of it, even the Pull Me Under/Metropolis Pt. 1 medley thing. I'm just saying this, because it wasn't like this at every show. You're on the right track with FF being in the first part of the year, Metropolis in the middle and LTL at the end though.
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lol it gets more specific :omg: ok well looking at the setlists again, I notice when FF was the main set closer, the other two were not in the set, then PMU/M became the set closer and the other two weren't in the set. Then there were a few shows, the exceptions you're talking about, where PMU/M became the encore, at which point all of SFAM was brought back (including FF of course). Then, when LTL became the set closer, M1 became the set opener. Then it went back and forth a couple times and theres no real pattern.
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and I think the LSFNY show was the only one where all three were played
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Forget it, you're up next, you've done enough :P
The thing was; all three were main set closers of the LAST show of a European leg of the 2000 tour.
Finally Free was the main set closer of the last show of the first leg (4/20/2000, Lisbon, Portugal)
(Pull Me Under/)Metropolis Pt. 1 was the main set closer of the last show of the second leg (7/23/2000, Oviedo, Spain)
Learning to Live was the main set closer of the last show of the third leg (10/21/2000, London, England)
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Ooohh haha!!
OK awesome-
Dissapear
Under a Glass Moon
Stream of Consciousness
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Is it that they are all penultimate tracks on their respective albums?
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All three have been featured on only ONE (official) live album.
Disappear and Stream of Consciousness on Live at Budokan and Under a Glass Moon on Score.
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Darn it. I had forgot about Wait for Sleep.
-1 fan point.
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Is it that they are all penultimate tracks on their respective albums?
What does penultimate mean? :-\ second to last? No.
All three have been featured on only ONE (official) live album.
Disappear and Stream of Consciousness on Live at Budokan and Under a Glass Moon on Score.
What about uagm on Tokyo?
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All three have been featured on only ONE (official) live album.
Disappear and Stream of Consciousness on Live at Budokan and Under a Glass Moon on Score.
What about uagm on Tokyo?
That was never released on CD, the others were (hence I said 'album').
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Oh I always thought a live DVD was a live album. But anyway, no that's not what I was thinking of.
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I once posted these, you may try to crack one of them if you like :)
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Pull Me Under
Gangland (IM cover)
Silent man
If it's ok, I'd like to guess at this since it was never answered. Is it that in the very last line of the song, there is a large vocal jump when done live? "only until your will is DDDOOOONNNNEE *F5*" , " there lies the silent man" back to the regular octave in the version where he sings an octave higher for the rest of that chorus, and aren't the last couple words of gangland just screamed?
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Ooohh haha!!
OK awesome-
Dissapear
Under a Glass Moon
Stream of Consciousness
They have circus sounds in them...UAGM on Score, don't really know about SoC.
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This game was funny when it was easy, but nooooo you had get smart.
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This one is really not that hard!
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Oh....all of them have "ss" in their name.
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Oh....all of them have "ss" in their name.
actually no :o thats not what I was thinking
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And Disappear doesn't have an "ss." ;)
Grasping at straws here, but I was thinking that all three have something to do with the mind or thought. UAGM and Disappear mention memories, and then there's Stream of Consciousness. Eh...I tried.
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Ok here's a small hint-
Lost Not Forgotten and Wither would also fit the group
And Disappear doesn't have an "ss." ;)
haha woops that was silly
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There are no drums in the intros? Which is true for tons of DT songs, but hey.
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And Honor Thy Father would also fit nicely into this group. so no on the no drums thing.
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They all contain the letter R in their titles?
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Is it something to do with the bass guitar arrangements?
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All songs start with just one instrument playing, before the rest of the band joins in.
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All songs start with just one instrument playing, before the rest of the band joins in.
UAGM has guitar and keyboard.
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Oh, yes.
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I was going to say they are all in different keys, but Disappear and LNF are in the same key (D).
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All titles have an odd number of words?
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6degrmatichaosonaxmasmorngabbagabbahey, help us! We're confused and frightened!
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6degrmatichaosonaxmasmorngabbagabbahey, help us! We're confused and frightened!
Hahaha ok I honestly didn't intend for it to be this hard! It does not have to do with the letters or words. Think more along the lines of what UAGM and LNF (which are on this list) have in common.
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I've got it I've got it I've got it!!!!!! :biggrin:
All those songs have the exact same title but are spelt and pronounced differently!!!
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6degrmatichaosonaxmasmorngabbagabbahey, help us! We're confused and frightened!
Hahaha ok I honestly didn't intend for it to be this hard! It does not have to do with the letters or words. Think more along the lines of what UAGM and LNF (which are on this list) have in common.
Octaves?
Odd time signatures?
Awesome guitar solos?
Great vocals?
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Each song generally begins and ends with the same musical theme? Maybe not Honor Thy Father...
I've got it I've got it I've got it!!!!!! :biggrin:
All those songs have the exact same title but are spelt and pronounced differently!!!
Burns: I wonder if this Homer Nixon is any relation.
Smithers: Unlikely, sir. They spell and pronounce their names differently.
:D
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I've got it I've got it I've got it!!!!!! :biggrin:
All those songs have the exact same title but are spelt and pronounced differently!!!
What?
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Each song generally begins and ends with the same musical theme? Maybe not Honor Thy Father...
I just thought of this... I bet this it! :)
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Each song generally begins and ends with the same musical theme? Maybe not Honor Thy Father...
Not just generally the same theme but the exact same riff starts and ends every one of these songs!! Listen to the first 30-60 sec and then the last 15-45 sec for each of these songs!
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Each song generally begins and ends with the same musical theme? Maybe not Honor Thy Father...
Not just generally the same theme but the exact same riff starts and ends every one of these songs!! Listen to the first 30-60 sec and then the last 15-45 sec for each of these songs!
Okay! I'm not going to argue with you, but some of those technically aren't exact. Did I win? :P
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Each song generally begins and ends with the same musical theme? Maybe not Honor Thy Father...
Not just generally the same theme but the exact same riff starts and ends every one of these songs!! Listen to the first 30-60 sec and then the last 15-45 sec for each of these songs!
Okay! I'm not going to argue with you, but some of those technically aren't exact. Did I win? :P
And I'm not gonna argue with you, but yes they are heehee :lol Yes, make like an authorized official $20 Dream Theater hat and go on a head.
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Alright, here we go:
Trial of Tears
Beyond This Life
Endless Sacrifice
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All in first set of The live at Budokon show? Plus I think they're numbers 3, 7, and 10; and 3+7=10 :lol
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Not what I'm looking for. :)
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All have three choruses, the first two being before the instrumental and the third one after. The second is longer than the first, and the third has a stronger backbeat than the first two.
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Nope.
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Each one comes back to the chorus after the instrumental and ends with the main melody.
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It isn't about the choruses.
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They're all longer than 10 minutes :neverusethis:
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Trial of Tears ends in G# (or is it A-flat?), the beginning key of Beyond this Life
Beyond this Life ends in D, the beginning key of Endless Sacrifice.
Major and minor are kind of ignored in this theory, so this probably isn't the answer at all.
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Trial of Tears ends in G# (or is it A-flat?), the beginning key of Beyond this Life
Beyond this Life ends in D, the beginning key of Endless Sacrifice.
Major and minor are kind of ignored in this theory, so this probably isn't the answer at all.
No, but nice effort!
They're all longer than 10 minutes :neverusethis:
Oh you.
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Some of these guesses were vaguely on the right track. Feel free to keep throwing things out there to see what sticks (I don't want to kill the game :-[).
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On all three songs, the final chorus is at the very end of the song and are diffrerent from the previous choruses in some way. BTl = heavier, ToT = stronger beat and altered lyrics, ES = only features the second half of the chorus in terms of lyrics (moments wasted...).
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It isn't about the choruses.
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Just to narrow things down, I will say it has to do with the songs themselves (either music or lyrics), and nothing to do with where they're placed on albums, the titles, or set lists.
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I just noticed this, got really excited, raced online to write this, then remembered you said its not about the choruses. Anyway here it is-
In each song's chorus there is an instance where the vocal melody does the minor scale degrees- 2,3,2,1 at the end of the phrase.
The word "faaaarr" in our deeds have traveled far from btl
The words "new York city" from tot
And "me why" in someone tell me why from es.
:omg:
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Some of the guesses are more interesting than the actual answer. Don't overthink it...the solution isn't complex!
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Some obvious stuff:
- all songs have an instrumental section
- all songs have a guitar solo
- all songs have verses with clean guitar and choruses with distorted guitars (yeah, you could argue about Beyond This Life not fitting this scheme)
- all songs feature have their title sung at some point in the song
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Some obvious stuff:
- all songs have an instrumental section
- all songs have a guitar solo
- all songs have verses with clean guitar and choruses with distorted guitars (yeah, you could argue about Beyond This Life not fitting this scheme)
- all songs feature have their title sung at some point in the song
One of those is definitely on the right track.
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All of the songs have back to back keyboard/guitar solos? (although not always in that order).
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All have a guitar solo followed by a keyboard solo, in that order?
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I'm trying to think of a hint that won't just give away the answer. :P Let's just narrow it down to this:
- all songs have an instrumental section
Elaborate on this point.
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All the instrumental sections include a tempo change? (not sure if ES counts)
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All songs have an isntrumental section that's vastly different from the rest of the song and bring in new musical ideas, rather than building on previous riffs in the song.
I'm doing this without actually listening to the song, so don't hate me if I'm saying something completely wrong here :lol
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100% wrong, but I'll write this anyway:
Each song has been performed live with the inclusion of a secondary instrument played by a band member in some sections:
- ToT: Kaossilator (CiM era)
- BTL: those little plastic or ceramic things MP played during the duet with JR at Budokan
- ES: Keytar (early ADTOE era)
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All incorrect so far. Yeah, this is proving to be way more difficult than I expected. ;) I don't know what else to say hint-wise...
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I like how all these overanalytic answers have been wrong :lol
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I like how all these overanalytic answers have been wrong :lol
The answer is kinda simple, really. You guys are too smart for this game!
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Oh my god, I came up with a seriously good one tribond! Would any of the other guys be kind enough to allow me to post it after this one gets sorted out? I promise I will be revealing it the solution within one day if nobody gets it. It's really, really good (and quite hard too :p)
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Oh my god, I came up with a seriously good one tribond! Would any of the other guys be kind enough to allow me to post it after this one gets sorted out? I promise I will be revealing it the solution within one day if nobody gets it. It's really, really good (and quite hard too :p)
Solve mine and you can post yours, no problem. :biggrin:
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One last ultra super hint: think of the entire instrumental sections instead of just parts of them.
If nobody gets it in the next couple hours, I'll post the answer.
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- The instrumental sections in all songs are approximately 5 minutes long (Endless Sacrifice is a bit less)
- They start between 4:00 and 5:00 minutes into the song
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- The instrumental sections in all songs are approximately 5 minutes long (Endless Sacrifice is a bit less)
Extremely close to the correct answer! None hit 5 minutes, but I'll give it to you since you said approximately.
So, the answer is: the instrumental sections (the times between vocals) are all over 4 minutes.
Your turn, or you can let wasteland go next. :)
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Cool, I'll think of something soon! :)
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Okay, this shouldn't be too hard:
- Metropolis Pt. 1: The Miracle and the Sleeper
- About to Crash (Reprise)
- Pull Me Under
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They're all in E?
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Almost (yea they're all in E, but that wasn't exactly what I was looking for).
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Almost (yea they're all in E, but that wasn't exactly what I was looking for).
All of them begin with an E note?
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Close enough.
The first note of every song is a guitar's open low E string.
Knock yourself out, your turn.
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I should have thought of that! Nice one :tup
Hey wasteland, could you tell me if this is right?
I once posted these, you may try to crack one of them if you like :)
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Pull Me Under
Gangland (IM cover)
Silent man
If it's ok, I'd like to guess at this since it was never answered. Is it that in the very last line of the song, there is a large vocal jump when done live? "only until your will is DDDOOOONNNNEE *F5*" , " there lies the silent man" back to the regular octave in the version where he sings an octave higher for the rest of that chorus, and aren't the last couple words of gangland just screamed?
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@6degstuff: no, it's not that! Didn't I give the answer somewhere in this thread?
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Whoa, Marco, what if it was you who killed the thread? :lol
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Whoa, Marco, what if it was you who killed the thread? :lol
It wouldn't make much difference... just one more to my vast collection of corpses :lol
I'm pretty sure I gave the answer, anyway! And the unsolved tribond was Blob's not mine!
IT'S ALL ABOUT BLOB...! NOT MEEE!
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:D
One Last Time
The Great Debate
The Ytse Jam
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I have no absolute nor relative pitch but... do they start with the same chord? :blush
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I have no absolute nor relative pitch but... do they start with the same chord? :blush
Nope. :D TYJ starts with an Em, TGD begins with a riff in Em, and OLT starts with a C#m.
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Ah, I was sure that YJ and TGD started on the same note! Not so much about OLT, though.
*disclaimer* This guy who is is speaking is a complete music illiterate! :blush
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Ah, I was sure that YJ and TGD started on the same note! Not so much about OLT, though.
*disclaimer* This guy who is is speaking is a complete music illiterate! :blush
It was a good guess given that no hints were given. :lol
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@6degstuff: no, it's not that! Didn't I give the answer somewhere in this thread?
You only gave the answer to one of them I think.
One Last Time
The Great Debate
The Ytse Jam
-played on either the bc&sl or adtoe tour, but not for many years prior
-the first lines of these songs do NOT begin with the word "and"
-tgd ends in E, ytse starts in E and ends on a C#, OLT starts on C#. The only thing is that's a different order than you wrote and it woudnt work in your order since OLT ends on a D and tgd starts on an E.
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Nope, those are all true though. The order doesn't matter, that's your first hint. :biggrin:
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They are all something minutes and 40 something seconds long.
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:D
One Last Time
The Great Debate
The Ytse Jam
They are all 3 word titles?
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I will say that one of those answers is actually pretty close! :o
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All three word titles with the first being a three-letter word.
edit: a three letter word ending in e that is...
edit II: with the only vowels used between the titles of the three songs being a, e, i, and o
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or maybe wikipedia is off by one second and TGD also has 46 seconds instead of 45. My mp3 version says 13:46, but right now I can't look at my CD to see which one is correct. Anyway, is it that all their times are something and 46 seconds?
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or maybe wikipedia is off by one second and TGD also has 46 seconds instead of 45. My mp3 version says 13:46, but right now I can't look at my CD to see which one is correct. Anyway, is it that all their times are something and 46 seconds?
Yess that is it! I didn't think the answer would be found so suddenly. :lol Your turn.
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In the Name of God
Build me Up Break me Down
Outcry
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Lyrics by Petrucci?
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nope
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They were all dropped from the setlists of the later legs of the tour in support of the album those three songs are included.
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I wouldn't consider O and BMUBMD dropped later in the tour just because they weren't included in one leg of the tour, which happened to be the second to last, to make room for LNF and TITT. I guess you could say so for ITNOG since it wasn't played on the DT/YES tour. Unless I'm mistaken..
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It was played once during that leg. I tend to speak quite often about that show, so I'm not going to say anything here.
The fact that they were later re-integrated doesn't mean that they hadn't been out of the sets until then, so technically they were dropped, although not permanently :D
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Their chorus's are similar....I can't describe it well, but jp usually holds the chords, and JLB goes high.
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Is it that they all feature some sort of electronic drum thingy?
BMUBMD and Outcry in the intro and ITNOG in a break.
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Is it that they all feature some sort of electronic drum thingy?
BMUBMD and Outcry in the intro and ITNOG in a break.
Ah, I think you got it!
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Is it that they all feature some sort of electronic drum thingy?
BMUBMD and Outcry in the intro and ITNOG in a break.
There we go!! Yes the electronic drum sound. Your turn
It was played once during that leg. I tend to speak quite often about that show, so I'm not going to say anything here.
The fact that they were later re-integrated doesn't mean that they hadn't been out of the sets until then, so technically they were dropped, although not permanently :D
which song are you talking about, which leg? and haha ok :)
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DT/Yes tour. I'm sure you are shrewd enough to know where to look and to recognize the show the moment you see it.
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Ok, here we go! This might not be too hard, but thats a good thing I guess :P
The Glass Prison
In The Presence of Enemies, Pt.2
Outcry
Go, go, go!
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DT/Yes tour. I'm sure you are shrewd enough to know where to look and to recognize the show the moment you see it.
August 21 and Sep 1. Both looks like a freaking AWESOME shows. Surprisingly enough I don't think I recognize them, though I might just be forgetting something. Why'd they decide to do all of 6doit on 9/1? And is there a recording of the slight trainwreck in ES?
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Ok, here we go! This might not be too hard, but thats a good thing I guess :P
The Glass Prison
In The Presence of Enemies, Pt.2
Outcry
Go, go, go!
All fade in with a sound effect in Bm. And eventually they all get very heavy.
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DT/Yes tour. I'm sure you are shrewd enough to know where to look and to recognize the show the moment you see it.
August 21 and Sep 1. Both looks like a freaking AWESOME shows. Surprisingly enough I don't think I recognize them, though I might just be forgetting something. Why'd they decide to do all of 6doit on 9/1? And is there a recording of the slight trainwreck in ES?
The show I was hinting at is the second you mentioned. Never recorded, and neither was the other. Sadness.
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Ok, here we go! This might not be too hard, but thats a good thing I guess :P
The Glass Prison
In The Presence of Enemies, Pt.2
Outcry
Go, go, go!
- None feature a chorus that's repeated in the exact same way
- All are over 10 minutes long
- All are played on 7-stringed guitars, except for ITPOE Pt. 2
- All feature Jordan Rudess
- All feature a Unison between guitars and keyboards at some point
- All have a lengthy instrumental section
- None have lyrics by John Myung
- All start out relatively quiet, before turning heavy
- All end on a coda
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All of them have a passage with crowd participation ("Hey!")
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All of them have a passage with crowd participation ("Hey!")
Where is that in The Glass Prison? (or have I just never heard it?)
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All of them have a passage with crowd participation ("Hey!")
Where is that in The Glass Prison? (or have I just never heard it?)
6:30 onwards
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good find!! but isn't it "heil" in ITPOE2?
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All of them have a passage with crowd participation ("Hey!")
Yup, that's it! Your turn.
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OK, that one should be pretty obvious:
This Is The Life
Stream Of Consciousness
Beyond This Life
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Only guitar in the intro.
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All three have an odd number of songs on their respective albums that are shorter.
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Scorpion's guess is the closer one.
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All end with just clean guitar.
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all start with just guitar and end with just clean guitar
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Huh, I didn't even notice that. Nope, it's still something else.
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:justjen All start with a guitar intro in 5/4 time!!!!! :metal
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Good catch.
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:justjen All start with a guitar intro in 5/4 time!!!!! :metal
That's what I was looking for. :D
Your turn.
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This one is gonna be very very hard, but if in a couple days no one gets it, I'll post the answer-
The Silent Man
Just Let Me Breathe
Only a Matter of Time
note: I edited out a song and replaced it with OaMoT because it might have caused unnecessary confusion in the answer.
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This one is gonna be very very hard, but if in a couple days no one gets it, I'll post the answer-
The Silent Man
Just Let Me Breathe
Only a Matter of Time
note: I edited out a song and replaced it with OaMoT because it might have caused unnecessary confusion in the answer.
All have a lyrical/theme from another song?
Silent man: part of a mind beside itself
James let me brie: the lyrical recall "just close your mind....."
Don't know only a matter of time....
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All three of them have guitar solos shorter than 20 seconds.
All of these songs were released separately in some way on each live-cd after the release of falling into infinity.
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Each song was released on the last album of Derek, Kevin and Charlie, respectively.
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Look at the times for these songs
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Look at the times for these songs
The cubic root of the time lenghts in seconds equal the normalization coefficients of three different Hermite Polinomials.
I got it right, didn't I? :blush
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Look at the times for these songs
The cubic root of the time lenghts in seconds equal the normalization coefficients of three different Hermite Polinomials.
I got it right, didn't I? :blush
One would hope that if that were actually true, you would have it right, but unfortunately i must ask you to look for a slightly simpler equation. And, Ok I admit this tribond was a silly one.
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Each digit of the track times is one number greater than or less than a digit in one or both of the other track times.
The Silent Man - 3:48
Just Let Me Breathe - 5:29
Only a Matter of Time - 6:36
3 & 2
4 & 5, 4 & 3
8 & 9
5 & 4
2 & 3, 2 & 3
9 & 8
6 & 5
3 & 2, 3 & 4
6 & 5
I don't expect this to be right because it's a rather far-fetched guess. :lol
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Not what I was looking for :lol Just let me Breathe is actually 5:28 if you look at the back cover of the album, so I'm going by that.
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Can you give another hint? When it comes to sheer numerology it becomes a bit hard to track down similarities.
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Add all the digits of each time together and they are all equal to 15.
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Add all the digits of each time together and they are all equal to 15.
Correct!
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Ok I admit this tribond was a silly one.
Next time I do one it won't be so ridiculous haha
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Woohoo!
This one should be fairly easy:
Take the Time
Goodnight Kiss
Octavarium
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Woohoo!
This one should be fairly easy:
Take the Time
Goodnight Kiss
Octavarium
They all have a guitar solo as outros?
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Good catch, but no.
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Add all the digits of each time together and they are all equal to 15.
Correct!
That was really difficult...mostly because every source I check (my files, Wikipedia, etc) lists the times of the songs slightly differently, it's never consistent. One or two of them will add up to 14 or 16 instead.
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All three have an atmospheric intro?
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They all use samples?
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No to both.
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Hint: think live.
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They have all been featured (in parts or as a whole) in two different DVD releases?
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Are they all track 13 on a live DVD?
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They were all played in 2006, but goodnight kiss I think only once.
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Are they all track 13 on a live DVD?
Close enough. I was thinking that they were each the first song of Disc 3 of one of the 3-disc-live releases, but I'll let it count.
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good one! These hard ones can take a while, but I think it's worth it to wait a while until someone finally gets it.
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Sweet! I had an idea for one of these, but it was too similar to the last one so I had to come up with one on the spot. I hope this isn't too easy!
Only A Matter Of Time
Wait For Sleep
The Silent Man
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brainstorming...
-OAMOT and WFS were included on one (and only one) live release, and SM will be.
-WFS and SM have been played in a non-acoustic form
-All have at least one theme from another song on the album (OAMOT intro like Fortune iL, WFS with LTL, TSM chorus in Erotomania and the part just before the acoustic guitar solo is a recurring theme in A Mind Beside itself)
-In each song, the first time the title is sung, it lands on the tonic of the key ("just a matter of time" for OAMOT)
-each played near/at the end of the show on their original tours
-Kevin Moore on keys.
-OAMOT and WFS Kevin lyrics
-WFS and SM music by only one person
-Each only played live in 3-4 tours ever.
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Sweet! I had an idea for one of these, but it was too similar to the last one so I had to come up with one on the spot. I hope this isn't too easy!
Only A Matter Of Time
Wait For Sleep
The Silent Man
Track number 8, 7, 6 of albums 1, 2, 3?
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All the songs include the title of the album they're on in the lyrics.
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That's a better guess.
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All the songs include the title of the album they're on in the lyrics.
Correct!
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Alright, here comes the next one:
Blind Faith
These Walls
Wither
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The guitar is tuned down at least three steps?
The song title is in the first line of the chorus?
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JP uses the Baritone guitar on all of them?
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JP uses the Baritone guitar on all of them?
Correct.
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Ok, this one shouldn't be too hard, I don't think-
Strange Deja Vu
Honor Thy Father
Prophets of War
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No guitar solo.
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And correct on the first guess. :tup
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Oh wow... hmm... I hope this hasn't been done before.
Hell's Kitchen
Voices
Strange Deja Vu
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All three end on a different chord than the one that starts them?
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All have John Petrucci playing the guitar.
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ALL LEAD INTO THE FOLLOWING SONG!
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ALL LEAD INTO THE FOLLOWING SONG!
Very close to what I was thinking...
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All have a JR outro/lead in to next song?
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All of them share a riff with the song that comes before them on the album.
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Bump, need to know if the maker of this tribond is still alive...
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I'm still alive. No one has guessed it yet, but people have come close. Here's a hint for you:
The "tribond link" for these three could be counted as two separate things if you were really pedantic, but they're similar enough that I count it as one common feature.
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All of them either segue into the next song or the previous song segues into them.
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All of them are part of a "group" of songs.
Hell's Kitchen kinda belongs to BMS
Voices is part of AMBI
Strange Deja Vu and OVerture 1928 form Scene two
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All of them either segue into the next song or the previous song segues into them.
Both, in fact!
Burning My Soul leads into Hell's Kitchen which leads into Lines in the Sand
Erotomania leads into Voices which leads into The Silent Man
Overture 1928 leads into Strange Deja Vu which leads into Through My Words
You're close enough that I count you as a win, so go ahead with your tribond!
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Alright, this one is either really easy or quite difficult.
A Change Of Seasons
I Walk Beside You
One Last Time
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They're all about women. :biggrin:
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Alright, this one is either really easy or quite difficult.
A Change Of Seasons
I Walk Beside You
One Last Time
The writing of those began during the writing of a previous album:
ACOS - 1989, Making of IAW era
IWBY - 2003, Train Of Thought sessions
One Last Time - Falling Into Infinity sessions, almost the entire song is featured as part of the Metropolis Part 2 song
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I guess wasteland got it right.
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Alright, this one is either really easy or quite difficult.
A Change Of Seasons
I Walk Beside You
One Last Time
The writing of those began during the writing of a previous album:
ACOS - 1989, Making of IAW era
IWBY - 2003, Train Of Thought sessions
One Last Time - Falling Into Infinity sessions, almost the entire song is featured as part of the Metropolis Part 2 song
...and we have a winner! :D
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Give a few hours to come up with a nice one. Believe me or not, I was going to post this one (with SDVu instead of One Last Time).
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This is not a really easy one. Also, for the Awake lovers!
Innocence Faded
6:00
The Mirror
Hint: the solution is in the music and before the music at the same time! :)
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None of the songs start with an actual note. 6:00 and Innocence Faded start with drumfills, while The Mirror starts with a pick slide.
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Good guess but no.
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Each song begins with a pick-up bar? ie. not a full bar
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I am not a musician, guys. I have no idea of what a pick-up bar is. :D
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The lyrics of both Innocence Faded and The Mirror start with a noun that ends on "-tion", but 6:00 doesnt really fit in.
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Hint: go explore MP's tourography.
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All songs were born from extensions/jams from the IaW tour? (I see something called the Innocence Faded jam in the tourography from 1993, The Mirror obviously started as Puppies on Acid, and the search function doesn't like "6:00", so I'm guessing here)
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6:00 or it didn't happen :D
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Well I made my guess, and it's either right or wrong regardless of whether I go and find out the specifics of each one. The point is to find the commonality, not to write a thesis justifying the guess.
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Alright, then you kind of got it. WHat I had in mind is that every song had been in some way premièred during an early phase of its life. The Mirror had Puppies On Acid, you found the Innocence Faded jam and 6:00 was derived from a riff driven jam that was performed in the radio interview the band gave in Indy.
I was originally going to put Beyond This Life in the lot, as a part of it was used as intro to Peruvian Skies in January 1998, but that occurrence is not cited in the tourography, so I opted to keep it out.
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Unfortunately, the MP tourography isn't too great with certain search terms, so I couldn't get it to show 6:00 no matter what search term I used. But I tried!
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Unfortunately, the MP tourography isn't too great with certain search terms, so I couldn't get it to show 6:00 no matter what search term I used. But I tried!
The reference show is this one https://www.mikeportnoy.com/dates/tourography/?show=186 , and this is where they played BTL before Peruvian Skies: https://www.mikeportnoy.com/dates/tourography/?show=387
Maybe I shouldn't have hinted at the tourography, this tribond died too soon :|
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Ok, this one might be easy, or it might be ridiculously difficult. I'm not sure. But that's half the fun!
The Silent Man
Trial of Tears
Through Her Eyes
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Easy, you say? Ehm, all the titles consist of 3 words and start with a T.
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Nope, it's not to do with the title of the songs. I knew someone would see a similarity there though! I only noticed that after I posted it.
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Damn, I was about to say "three words in each title"! >:(
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When I said it might be easy, I didn't mean it would be something really simple like that. I think it is kinda difficult, but I've also learned never to underestimate DTF's sleuth skills. :lol
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They were all played in a single night in Koln :D
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If it something to do with setlists, wasteland will get it. :lol
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That might be too simple but they all mention their song title in the lyrics.
EDIT: All three talk about water in different ways:
TSM: "It'd be better if I swim"
TOT: "It's raining" and obviously tears
THE: "I felt so empty as I cried", "I wept just like a baby"
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That might be too simple but they all mention their song title in the lyrics.
Nope, it's something a bit more exclusive than that. I'd say no more than about 10 songs total would be in this group.
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Prominent acoustic guitar?
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EDIT: All three talk about water in different ways:
TSM: "It'd be better if I swim"
TOT: "It's raining" and obviously tears
THE: "I felt so empty as I cried", "I wept just like a baby"
Nope, it's more specific than that. You're getting warmer though.
Prominent acoustic guitar?
Nope. As I said in my last post, there would be no more than about 10 DT songs that would fit into this same group (and no less than about 5). I'm not sure how much help that is, but it should narrow it down slightly.
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All three have the word "awake" in their lyrics.
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All three have the word "awake" in their lyrics.
Bam! Nice job! :clap: You're up.
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Okay, this one might be a bit easy, maybe not.
Through Her Eyes
Vacant
Octavarium
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They all involve unconscious women. Just like Zydar's house.
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Amusing, but no.
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They all involve unconscious women. Just like Zydar's house.
:zydar:
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All of those songs include the word "eyes" in the lyrics.
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All of those songs include the word "eyes" in the lyrics.
Oh wow, that's cool. I didn't even realise that.
But no. It's nothing to do with the lyrics or the composition.
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Okay, this one might be a bit easy, maybe not.
Through Her Eyes
Vacant
Octavarium
They were all played live with guest musicians: THE with Theresa Thomason in LSFNY, Vacant with Eugene Friesen in 04 and with the orchestra in Score and Octavarium in Score.
AND: they were all recorded in the studio with guest artists: Through Her Eyes with Jay Beckenstein (from Spyro Gyra) on the early mix, Vacant with Eugene Friesen and Octavarium with the flute guy/girl (not really sure about this, if it was indeed a flute player or if it was Jordan).
AND: they all have a line about eyes and the way they look in unnatural circumstances:
- So innocent, eyes open wide
- Eyes glazed
- Eyes open but not getting thrugh to me
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You wouldn't have needed to add the latter, because
It's nothing to do with the lyrics or the composition.
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Oh, right... but it's nevertheless a cool common trait!
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Yeah, it is! I didn't remember the guest musician thing, but it might be the correct answer.
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Again, some really interesting facts are coming out of these guesses, but still no correct answer.
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All three are preceded by a song over 10 minutes on the albums they're on.
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Nope.
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Watched any live DVDs recently?
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Each song has appeared on a live DVD only once?
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Still nope.
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All feature guest musicians on the live DVDs they appeared on.
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All feature guest musicians on the live DVDs they appeared on.
Already said! :D
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Oh, oops.
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It might be giving too much away now, but the clue is nothing to do with a live song performance either.
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Octavarium
Through Her Eyes
Vacant
:dangerwillrobinson: vowel, consonant, vowel??
Otherwise-
1. Verses led by piano
2. melodies from other songs
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Octavarium
Through Her Eyes
Vacant
:dangerwillrobinson: vowel, consonant, vowel??
Otherwise-
1. Verses led by piano
2. melodies from other songs
Still nope. The answer involves live DVDs.
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the clue is nothing to do with a live song performance either.
>:( >:(
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:facepalm: I was thinking of this, then said "naahh" because I didn't hink it was the case for THE, but then I checked...
SONG PLAYED DURING THE CLOSING CREDITS OF THE DVD'S OF THEIR RESPECTIVE ALBUMS! :dangerwillrobinson:
edit: and it's the instrumentals of these songs
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Nobody ever watches the ending credits. :dangerwillrobinson:
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:facepalm: I was thinking of this, then said "naahh" because I didn't hink it was the case for THE, but then I checked...
SONG PLAYED DURING THE CLOSING CREDITS OF THE DVD'S OF THEIR RESPECTIVE ALBUMS! :dangerwillrobinson:
edit: and it's the instrumentals of these songs
DING DING DING, WE HAVE A WINNER!
THE was technically an alternate version, but it was still the same song.
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ok hopefully this one hasn't already been done!
Fortune in Lies
6:00
Surrounded
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They're all 5 minutes + something long
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No
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All the 3 will be on the new DVD
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All the 3 will be on the new DVD
I'm so freaking excited to see these :metal keep guessing
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KevMo on keys
The songs all mention waking up (6:00 and surrounded in the lyrics, AFIL in samples)
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The songs all mention waking up (6:00 and surrounded in the lyrics, AFIL in samples)
very close!
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:bump:
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haha want me to give the answer?
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There are references to dreams in the three songs:
Fortune in Lies: "...everything was right in my world... and then I woke up"
6:00: "Six o'clock the siren kicks him from a dream"
Surrounded: "Dreams are shaking Set sirens waking up tired eyes"
???
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pretty close. It's just that they all three say "siren".
And you just listed the right line in 2 out of the 3 songs haha
So your turn, I want mine to be over :lol
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Beyond This Life
The Count of Tuscany
Trial of Tears
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They all start in the key of Ab minor.
They also all start with the note of Ab, I believe.
Something related to that.
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Nope
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It can't be a coincidence that they all significantly feature Ab!
:lol Am I even warm?
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Not even close... I never realized that the 3 songs begin with Ab!
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I will make it easier ... it is lyrics related...
(I do not know why I am playing this game :()
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1.) All feature their title in the lyrics
2.) All feature lyrical passages that are repeated several times throughout the song
3.) All talk about some kind of fear:
"I'm frightened for my life"
"In the warmth of my fear"
"Desperate shooting" (this one doesn't really fit to be honest)
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Nope
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All have their title as the last line of lyric, except for Trial of Tears, which has 'Deep in Heaven' as the last words, which is the title of a movement of the song.
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Nope... It is something straight fwd
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In all three songs there are parts where the narrator speaks to a "you" (not sure how I should phrase this, I hope you can understand what I mean :D)
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In all three songs there are parts where the narrator speaks to a "you" (not sure how I should phrase this, I hope you can understand what I mean :D)
Lyrisches Du?
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People are driving?
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None of the above
Is there a rule where after a certain time i shall give the answer?
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None of the above
Is there a rule where after a certain time i shall give the answer?
I don't believe there's any hard rule about it. If people get really stuck, I'd try more hints if possible before giving it away though.
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Here's a hint:
Peruvian Skies could replace any of the 3 songs
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maybe everyone is just tired of this game?
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Yes u r right
The 3 songs share references for cities being New York, Echoes Hill and Tuscany, and that is why Peruvian Skies could join as well.
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That's actually quite logical, how come I didn't think about it?
I have an idea for a new trio of songs, but I'll post it only if you guys let me go next.
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I say please do, but who knows if anyone's gonna feel like thinking about it
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Well, no-one got the previous one right and the game needs to go on, so what the F#...
Take the Time
To Live Forever
Metropolis
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ATCO Demos?
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Nope. However, I have a feeling you will be the one who gets this right :lol
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Throughout the ages all of them have been played with snippets of songs by other artists in them. (very unlikely)
All had some sort of extension when played live.
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Lyrisches Du?
so what the F#...
:rollin at both of these
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Throughout the ages all of them have been played with snippets of songs by other artists in them. (very unlikely)
All had some sort of extension when played live.
No. The correct answer is related to live performances, though (as you probably guessed from my previous post).
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I know TLF and Metropolis were performed when Charlie was still in the band... Was TTT as well? I'm not even sure, just making a guess :lol
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I don't think there's any way in hell Charlie could have sung two seconds of TTT :o :D
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I don't think there's any way in hell Charlie could have sung two seconds of TTT :o :D
Yeah, I figured not. XD
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Every song featured JLB hitting F# live.
You recently bought the CD of the first time they were performed in a single night.
There hasn't been a single tour without 2 out of the 3 of them being performed. (at least partially)
Though in the case of TLF it was actually playing an earlier version of the song, it happened that all the three songs were performed without one or more verses (TTT in 08-09, Met in 97-98 and in various occasions and TLF on WDADRU).
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None of the answers have been correct yet. I'll give you a hint: I'm referring to a single (special) performance of each song - 2 of them happened at the same show.
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They all were played live with a person who was in DT at some point, but not at the point of that show-
TLF with Charlie in 2004
M1 with Derek and Charlie in the same show
TTT with JR at "The Rudess Experiment 1994" show
Or is it just a special guest live jam because there's a video of Joe Satriani coming out for the jam at the end of TTT?
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Really close! The TTT performance is a different one, so keep guessing ;)
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Well, they played TTT in the show with Steve Stone, but not with Steve Stone on vocals. And I was about to quote Satch appearence too!
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Take The Time with the drum duet with Mike Mangini in Boston 2002! :D :D
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Take The Time with the drum duet with Mike Mangini in Boston 2002! :D :D
Bingo!
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So...
Pull Me Under
Metropolis Pt.1
Under A Glass Moon
Think live.
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All have been used as an encore in the ADTOE tour.
Though that's probably too easy, isn't it? :biggrin:
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All have been used as an encore in the ADTOE tour.
Though that's probably too easy, isn't it? :biggrin:
Yep. I was expecting this solution to come within the first 5 minutes. :D
You gotta try harder than that, quite harder :D
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This isn't live, but I noticed that in the order you listed them, the first letter of each song spells PMU. :P
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:lol What a great find! Well, I guess the order has some kind of a meaning, but of course it's not what you said :D
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They've all three been used as both the opening song and the encore song.
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True but no :)
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All on Images and Words
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Think live.
:D
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All played on the Images and Words tour.
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Too easy! This is not an easy one.
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I got it!! They are often all three performed with an added "COME ON" before the instrumental and an added "YEA" as the very last lyric!!!
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Ok, it's a tad less outlandish that that :lol
And I think you should give me the answer to that other tribond I submitted to you some time ago :hat
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your inbox is full. :lol that's my excuse (not really). but it is full haha
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What aspect of 'live' should we look at? Since I basically haven't seen any bootleg and don't want to search through Portnoy's tourography to find *something*, I have no idea where to start with just the 'think live' hint.
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What aspect of 'live' should we look at? Since I basically haven't seen any bootleg and don't want to search through Portnoy's tourography to find *something*, I have no idea where to start with just the 'think live' hint.
Well, it has to do with particular circumstances involving those songs being played. It's about novelities.
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What aspect of 'live' should we look at? Since I basically haven't seen any bootleg and don't want to search through Portnoy's tourography to find *something*, I have no idea where to start with just the 'think live' hint.
Well, it has to do with particular circumstances involving those songs being played. It's about novelities.
They have all been played as an encore in an album-promotional tour?
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No :D
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Were they all first songs performed live with new members? I know UAGM was the first live song they did with Mangini, and I think Pull Me Under was the opening song of their first show with Rudess in 1994.
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Maybe Metropolis first show with JLB?
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HolidaysAnoraks got it, but it's the first song played by a new member upon officially joining the band.mso, PMU for Derek and James, Metropolis for Jordan and UAGM for Mike!
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Okay, I hope I didn't make this too easy...
Pull Me Under
Surrounded
Take The Time
This also has to do with their live performances.
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All performed on the NYC show of '93, of which there is also an official bootleg?
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Nope. It's not quite as specific as that.
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They're all on Images And Words :neverusethis:
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They appear on two official DVD releases? (LIT&LAB for PMU, LIT&CiM for TTT and Surrounded)
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Welcome HolidaysAnoraks! Getting a tribon right is an awesome way to start posting here :D
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Thanks! And none of the guesses are right so far. ;) Do I need to give a hint?
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They've all been played with extended solos?
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They all featured snippets of other songs:
PMU -> Master Of Puppets
Surrounded -> Sugar Mice / Mother
Take The Time -> Various
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They all featured snippets of other songs:
PMU -> Master Of Puppets
Surrounded -> Sugar Mice / Mother
Take The Time -> Various
Correct!
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Huh, I didn't know that!
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Crap, I could have known this one :P
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Crap, I could have known this one :P
Go ahead, Zydar or Rich, I'm in no mood for creating one today :D
Decide between yourselves who takes this :D
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Sorry, I have no inspiration to create one.
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Rich?
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Nah, poor.
:footloose:
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(https://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff49/bobjester/bth_russian-roulette.gif)
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Alrighty, here goes:
- Lifting Shadows Off a Dream
- The Root of All Evil
- The Ones Who Help To Set the Sun
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Have only been played on two world tours.
Lsoad- Awake and 6doit
TROAE- Octavarium and ADTOE
TOWHTSTS- WDADU and Train of Thought.
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TOWHTSTS was played on the Awake tour, was it not?
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Oh that's right it was a few times.
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Without the keys!
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Probably true, but not what I was looking for. The solution is more simple than that.
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I'm also pretty sure LSOAD was played on the FII tour as well.
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Alrighty, here goes:
- Lifting Shadows Off a Dream
- The Root of All Evil
- The Ones Who Help To Set the Sun
The sun shines on a tree and roots grow but shadows make it worse
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Alrighty, here goes:
- Lifting Shadows Off a Dream
- The Root of All Evil
- The Ones Who Help To Set the Sun
The sun shines on a tree and roots grow but shadows make it worse
Almost.
no wtf :neverusethis:
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I'm always shitty at these. It's probably got something to do with lyrics or compositions or something back in a concert in '07 :(
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Well, I really think this one is very easy, but it's right on my line of thinking, so that could be it.
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The first two song titles have 5 letters, the third 8. The answer to this Tribond is: NUGGETZ.
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:lol
also, I think you mean 'words' instead of 'letters'
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Words has 5 letters. Letters have 7. Missed by one, 7+1=8, your arguement is invalid. :hat
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Well, you're somewhat on the right track.
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They all have the longest written title on their respective albums.
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There we go, you're up!
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All right, here we go:
Space-Dye-Vest
The Best Of Times
The Spirit Carries On
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All right, here we go:
Space-Dye-Vest
The Best Of Times
The Spirit Carries On
They are all somewhat about moving on or being unable to?
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Losing someone very close (not sure about TSCO)?
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It's nothing that involves the content of the lyrics. And just to be sure, nothing related to shows either.
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All three have had demo versions released with other people singing lead vocals besides JLB? The Wither single has a version of The Best of Times with Portnoy singing, and the SFAM demos have Petrucci singing The Spirit Carries On. I also think there is a version of Space-Dye Vest with Kevin singing.
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All three have had demo versions released with other people singing lead vocals besides JLB? The Wither single has a version of The Best of Times with Portnoy singing, and the SFAM demos have Petrucci singing The Spirit Carries On. I also think there is a version of Space-Dye Vest with Kevin singing.
Got it! ;)
Your turn.
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This one should be fairly easy...
Afterlife
6:00
This Shattered Fortress
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Lyrics by a band member that left after the release of the album the song was on.
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Yep!
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Alright, next one. It's fairly random, but I'm sure people will find out anyway:
- Overture
- Voices
- The Glass Prison
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Alright, next one. It's fairly random, but I'm sure people will find out anyway:
- Overture
- Voices
- The Glass Prison
Six Degrees Oveture, I assume?
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Yes, or else I'd have written 'Overture 1928'.
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I'll go ahead and guess the painfully obvious "they're all part of a larger piece" (Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, A Mind Beside Itself, Twelve-Step Suite).
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Good guess, but not exactly what I was looking for.
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all part of a mental health issue theme?
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all part of a mental health issue theme?
Alcoholism is a mental issue?
I guess it probably is
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all part of a mental health issue theme?
Alcoholism is a mental issue?
I guess it probably is
It doesn't mean mental disorder obviously, if that's what you meant. But it could be described as simply an issue of the mind.
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Addiction is definitely a mental health issue.
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It has nothing to do with the lyrics; 425 was actually on the right track there.
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Ah! They're all the longest part of their larger piece of music (by which I mean: Overture is the longest movement in SDOIT, Voices is the longest song on AMBI and TGP is the longest song in the 12SS)?
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That's correct! You're up.
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Yay! Alright, I'm not quite sure what the difficultly level of mine will be, but here goes:
Blind Faith
Endless Sacrifice
The Dark Eternal Night
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Lenghty instrumental break in the middle?
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That's not precisely what I was looking for but generally on the right track.
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All have a section in the middle where only JR is playing a solo?
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Yep. I guess it was pretty easy. You're up.
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Cheers!
Build Me Up, Break Me Down
Outcry
In The Name Of God
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All include a section with an electronic beat?
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Damn didn't think it was that obvious, take the stage!
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Cheers!
Build Me Up, Break Me Down
Outcry
In The Name Of God
Godammit, I was literally planning to post this exact one when I got the chance! xP
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Damn didn't think it was that obvious, take the stage!
Electronic elements are so rare in DT's music that it was easy for me :D
Afterlife
Surrounded
Wither
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Damn didn't think it was that obvious, take the stage!
Electronic elements are so rare in DT's music that it was easy for me :D
+ that exact same Tribond had been done before in this very thread.
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ah... that's a let down..
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:biggrin:
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Damn didn't think it was that obvious, take the stage!
Electronic elements are so rare in DT's music that it was easy for me :D
Afterlife
Surrounded
Wither
Almost the same track length time?
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Nope. The correct answer is related to the track lengths, though.
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Nope. The correct answer is related to the track lengths, though.
No idea. How about that there is a track of between 8-9 minutes either before or after these tracks. You know 5-8. ???
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All three are locked between tracks longer than them.
All three are between 5 and 6 minutes long.
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No right answers yet!
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I got no idea then.
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On each album the songs are on there are exactly 5 songs longer than said song.
On WDADU there's 5 songs longer than Afterlife (Ytse Jam, Killing Hand, Light Fuse, Sun, and Matter of Time)
On I&W there's 5 songs longer than Surrounded (PMU, TTT, Metropolis, UAGM and LTL)
On BC&SL all other 5 songs are longer than Wither
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Congrats, you got it right! :tup
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Nice work Elite.
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Cool :tup
Let's see what I can do:
- Ytse Jam
- Take the Time
- Learning to Live
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All where played before the release of the album they ended up being on.
Additionally, they were played back to back in this famous show: https://www.mikeportnoy.com/dates/tourography/?show=29
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All where played before the release of the album they ended up being on.
Additionally, they were played back to back in this famous show: https://www.mikeportnoy.com/dates/tourography/?show=29
That must be the wrong link, because I don't see TTT or LTL in there. You're on the right track though, but the first guess was not what I was looking for.
EDIT: Duh... they're there with working titles..
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The three songs were left off Live At The Marquee despite being on the set and regularly played?
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Indeed :tup
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:bump:
Isn't it Marco's turn?
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It doesn't matter, he will chose something about a specific concert whilst they were called majesty which no-one knows anything about except him... Or something ridiculous like that! :lol
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:lol
Well, does anyone else have ideas?
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Well, every tribond so far has been solved, so I don't see the deal. And, yes, it's Marco's turn.
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wasteland, you still up?
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Oh, I completely forgot about this! Sorry people for the delay! Go ahead, Rich! :)
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Me again? Okay.. let's see:
- Caught in a Web
- The Test That Stumped Them All
- A Change of Seasons
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7 string guitars. Not sure about TTTSTA. Actually, I'm pretty sure TTTSTA is played on a six string. Oh well. :huh:
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7 string guitars. Not sure about TTTSTA. Actually, I'm pretty sure TTTSTA is played on a six string. Oh well. :huh:
You're wrong. TTTSTA was played on a 7-string.* Which means you're right as well. Your turn!
* On the album at least, you can hear the low notes from the B-string here and there, specifically under the guitar and keyboard solos. Live Petrucci played this on a six string on Score (just watched it). I assume because there's literally no time to swap guitars after War Inside My Head.
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Alright, I'm going to post mine later today :tup
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okay, this one might be pretty hard:
A Nightmare To Remember
Lines In The Sand
Another Day
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- all songs have something unusual going on for DT;
- ANTR has MP growling
- Lines in the Sand has guest vocals from that King's X guy
- Another Day has a saxophone solo
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nope
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- lyrics by JP
- all contain a guitar solo
- all feature MP, who's not in the band anymore
- all start with an 'A', except LITS, it starts with an 'L'
- James LaBrie sings on every track
- John Myung plays bass on every track
- ANTR utilises blast-beats, all other songs do not
- ANTR is played in drop C, the rest isn't
:neverusethis:
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Sorry for nitpicking, but ANTR is in standard C. Anyway, I have no idea what the correct answer could be :lol
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Sorry for nitpicking, but ANTR is in standard C. Anyway, I have no idea what the correct answer could be :lol
Oh, I didn't know, I never tried it. As soon as I have to tune down anything more than Drop D, I won't play it.
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JP has never really used drop tunings - Home and (a part of) the 6/8 section in The Great Debate are in drop D, but that's it.
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JP has never really used drop tunings - Home and (a part of) the 6/8 section in The Great Debate are in drop D, but that's it.
And I think LNF?
And I didn't know about TGD having a drop tuning anywhere. The more you know!
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JP has never really used drop tunings - Home and (a part of) the 6/8 section in The Great Debate are in drop D, but that's it.
And I think LNF?
LNF is in D-standard. I guess he has indeed used drop-tunings very sparingly.
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And I didn't know about TGD having a drop tuning anywhere. The more you know!
Yeah, it's just a small portion of the song and obviously he plays the whole song in standard tuning live, but you can hear a low D at least in the final chord before "Harvesting existence...". Reminds me of how he used a 7-string in the instrumental section of TTTSTA (as mentioned above), although the rest of the song is played on a 6-string.
LNF is in D-standard.
Yup, JP confirmed this in the track-by-track breakdown of ADTOE at Music Radar.
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JP has never really used drop tunings - Home and (a part of) the 6/8 section in The Great Debate are in drop D, but that's it.
And I think LNF?
LNF is in D-standard. I guess he has indeed used drop-tunings very sparingly.
Oh ok. I knew it was D, I just thought I recalled someone mentioning very recently that it was a drop tuning.
He does indeed use them rarely, especially considering how many songs DT have that are down-tuned, and involve heavy riffage.
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- lyrics by JP
- all contain a guitar solo
- all feature MP, who's not in the band anymore
- all start with an 'A', except LITS, it starts with an 'L'
- James LaBrie sings on every track
- John Myung plays bass on every track
- ANTR utilises blast-beats, all other songs do not
- ANTR is played in drop C, the rest isn't
:neverusethis:
Not sure if I should answer this post :lol
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Please do! I want to know if I'm right :)
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You're right, but none of those is what I had in mind :D
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:bump:
come on, guys!
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You said ' this might be pretty hard'. The lack of any correct results perhaps shows that it is.
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As the creator and executive producer of this thread's 1000th post I demand you post one hint. :yarr
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Okay, master, here you go:
You need the album packaging for this one.
And yep, it's kinda hard. Sorry. ;D
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Is it related to the credits or the lyrics?
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It's related to the back cover.
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I've been staring at the back coves for the past 5 minutes and have no idea what you mean :P for the record; I'm looking at three original releases; no reissues whatsoever. I'll have a go again in a couple of hours, I want to solve this one :P
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It's going to be pretty obvious if I post another hint, so I'm not sure :D
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The songs lengths, if taken as individual digits, all add up to 8?
ANTR: 16:10, 1+6+1=8
LITS: 12:05, 1+2+5=8
Another Day: 4:22, 4+2+2=8
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We have a winner! :clap:
Your turn.
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I can't be bothered trying to think of one. Someone else can have my turn. :(
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Elite steps in with a very easy one:
- Your Majesty
- Pull Me Under
- Enigma Machine
Go!
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Second word starts with an M? :lol
I consider myself a) very knowledgeable when it comes to all sorts of DT trivia b) very good at making logical connections, but whenever I look at any of these, nothing comes to mind. :(
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Well, it's either that or something related to their position in the tracklist, since we don't know anything about Enigma Machine.
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Second word starts with an M? :lol
Indeed :lol
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Maaaaybe we should revert to tribonds that are about the song itself, rather than its title or its track number ::)
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Well, the OP states it can be about anything, as long as it relates to the song. So I suppose titles count as well. However, this was just a quick step-in from me. Milena can post a better one. I like this game as it is, but I've always likes figuring things out. The fact that it can be about anything and everything only makes it more interesting I think.
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I like this game as it is, but I've always likes figuring things out. The fact that it can be about anything and everything only makes it more interesting I think.
this
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Bump. Anyone got ideas for a new one?
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Me, but it sucks.
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Go ahead. I have a sucky one if anyone wants to see it. You'll get it in no-time anyway.
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Unfortunately I think a lot of people won't get this one. I told you it would suck ;D
Build Me Up, Break Me Down
The Count Of Tuscany
This Is The Life
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All feature the title in the lyrics.
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not what I had in mind
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All feature a section with no drumming?
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All feature a section WITH drumming?
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All feature a section with no drumming?
nope
All feature a section WITH drumming?
That's quite a bold theory, blob.
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Is it related to the music itself or is it a little more obscure than that?
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A little more obscure again, even more than the last one :D
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Bump.
They're all about seven minutes long. Except CoT.
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Nope. Maybe somebody could start a new one, I don't know, because mine is maybe a bit too ridiculous.
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Just give a cryptic hint. ;)
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Okay:
- Metropolis Pt. 1: The Miracle and the Sleeper
- The Root of All Evil
- Scarred
GO!
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They all feature liquids:
Metropolis - Lake of fire
Scarred - Blood heal me
TROAE - Booze
:lol
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They all deal with events that could (metaphorically) seriously injure your skin:
- Lake Of Fire
- Keeps burning deep inside
- Maybe I'll leave them here and BURN!
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All of them feature a keyboard solo.
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All of them feature a keyboard solo.
:lol
To the other guesses; no, not correct. But it does have something to do with the lyrics. Good luck.
EDIT: You could swap out Metropolis for Lines in the Sand, if that makes it easier for you.
Meaning:
- Lines in the Sand
- Scarred
- The Root of All Evil
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They all contain the name of another Dream Theater song in the lyrics.
Lines in the Sand -> Stream of Consciouness
The Root of All Evil -> This Dying Soul
Scarred -> Never Enough
Metropolis -> The Dance of Eternity, Home
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There we go, good job!
For the record, Metropolis contains 'The Dance of Eternity', but as the full song title is actually 'Scene Seven: I. The Dance of Eternity', that could be misleading (although it's basically always called The Dance of Eternity, like every song on Scenes, the 'Scene X' part rarely gets mentioned).
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Alright, how about this.
- To Live Forever '91
- The Best of Times
- The Count of Tuscany
Hint: it's stupid and too complex.
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Alright, how about this.
- To Live Forever '91
- The Best of Times
- The Count of Tuscany
Hint: it's stupid and too complex.
If you look at the year they were released, they were all released 9 years away from the year 2000.
TLF > 1991
TBOT and TCOT > 2009
:neverusethis:
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Nope.
Think live.
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Those songs have not been played live in the past 2 years.
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Far more retarded.
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So, that makes it unguessable?
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- None have been released on a live dvd/album
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Nah, not unguessable.
It has something to do with their position on the albums they are on and live performances. That should be a clue enough.
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On the respective albums, the song before the songs in the tribond has never been played live.
Those songs would be:
- Don't Look Past Me
- The Shattered Fortress
- The Best of Times
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:tup
Maybe I gave away too much, but I was afraid that it would never get solved without it. You're up Rich!
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Easy one, for the hell of it:
- Trial of Tears
- In The Presence of Enemies, Pt. II
- False Awakening Suite
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Multiple movements within the song.
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Oh, you thought it was that easy?
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Oh, you thought it was that easy?
Yeah, I did.
Instrumental part that's longer than two and half minutes?
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Multiparted songs shorter than 20 minutes?
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Instrumental part that's longer than two and half minutes?
HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS? :O
No, not what I was going for. We don't even know song lengths yet.
Multiparted songs shorter than 20 minutes?
Nah, I could have picked Octavarium instead of any track here and it wouldn't make a difference.
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Instrumental part that's longer than two and half minutes?
HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS? :O
The track length was confirmed to be 2:42, and it's completely instrumental.
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Instrumental part that's longer than two and half minutes?
HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS? :O
The track length was confirmed to be 2:42, and it's completely instrumental.
Oh, I didn't know the length was confirmed, but I knew it was fully instrumental. So, although all guesses have been technically correct so far, none of them was what I was going for.
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Three movements each?
EDIT: okay no, that doesn't work in Octavarium's case.
EDIT 2: uneven number of movements?
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Nor does it with ITPOE Pt. II
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3 or 5 movements each?
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3 or 5 movements each?
That's hardly a unifying theme, is it? Especially considering ITPOE Pt. II has 4 movements.
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3 to 5 movements each :neverusethis:
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No! :lol
Also, for clarification, Octavarium is not part of the Tribond, although it *could* be. It should be solveable with just Trial of Tears, False Awakening Suite and ITPOE II. It's a bit stupid, but I really didn't think it would be this hard :p
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At least one of the movements is instrumental?
EDIT: again, doesn't work in 8VM's case
EDIT 2: 3 movements + 5 movements = 8
nuggetz?
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At least one of the movements is instrumental?
Nope
EDIT: again, doesn't work in 8VM's case
Indeed.
EDIT 2: 3 movements + 5 movements = 8
nuggetz?
No. It's something that applies to all three in the Tribond separately - and if you will it can apply to Octavarium as well. 'Quatrobond'!
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Anyone want to try this one still? Or should I reveal it?
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Reveal :D
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But that would kill it! :(
Really, it's not that hard at all! :P
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I'm pretty sure it has something to do with the movements, right?
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To whoever posted the last round, do you still want people to guess, or can I go ahead and add a new one involving the new set of songs? :P
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As for a possible answer to the last round: all song titles bear similarity to an album title.
Trial of Tears = Train of Thought
In the Presence of Enemies, Pt. 2 = Metropolis, Pt. 2
False Awakening Suite = Awake
Octavarium = Octavarium
(I doubt this is the answer, but what the heck.)
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Oh wow, this thread has been dug up again :lol
And still unsolved!
It has something to do with the movements and their titles; nothing with the actual music.
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Trial of Tears has 3 movements, ITPoE Pt.2 has 4 movements and FAS has 3 movements again.
Could it be that they all have instrumental sections in them? FAS is all instrumental, so it fits the bill.
Uhh... names... I really can't figure it out right now.
Maybe it's that ITPoE Pt.2 ends at the 6th movement, while both Trial of Tears and FAS add up to 6 movements?
Or they all start off really heavy and dark but then come into a lighter, happier ending? Not sure with Trial of Tears, tbh.
Well that's all for bad ideas today.
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He posted this before we knew what FAS sounded like
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He posted this before we knew what FAS sounded like
But we already knew it was an instrumental.
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The final movements have 3 syllables in all of their names.
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The final movements have 3 syllables in all of their names.
And the third movements, actually.
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ITPOE PT. 2
III -Heretic
IV -The Slaughter of the Damned
V -The Reckoning
VI -Salvation
FAS
I -Sleep Paralysis
II -Night Terrors
III -Lucid Dreams
TOT
I -It's Raining
II -Deep in Heaven
III -The Wasteland
8VM
I -Someone Like Him
II -Medicate
III -Full Circle
IV -Intervals
V -Razor's Edge
Hmmm... :justjen
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3 syllables in the third and final movements of each song. I think that's a good one.