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Title: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: energythief on September 23, 2011, 03:02:28 PM
I played a game called Tribond recently, and I thought it would be fun to start a little DT-themed game here on the forum.


The rules are straightforward. I will list a set of three Dream Theater songs which share something in common. (Now, there may be lots of things in common, but there is one right answer I have in mind.) Whoever guesses the connection between the three songs wins the round, and gets to post a puzzle of their own!


It can be about any part of the song - music, lyrics, credits, titles, etc. Half the fun is figuring it out! Here's an example:



1. Ytse Jam
2. Hell's Kitchen
3. Stream of Consciousness


The unifying thread for those three songs is "Instrumentals". See, pretty easy, right?


So with the rules out of the way, here's the first set of songs:


1. Learning to Live
2. Lifting Shadows off a Dream
3. Train of Tears


What common element binds these three together? Good luck!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Phoenix87x on September 23, 2011, 03:08:32 PM
All have lyrics written by John Myung
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: energythief on September 23, 2011, 03:10:50 PM
All have lyrics written by John Myung


Correct! Now post one of your own. :)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Phoenix87x on September 23, 2011, 03:23:20 PM
Another Day
Lines in the Sand
Through Her Eyes

   
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 23, 2011, 03:30:55 PM
All include a guest musician.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Phoenix87x on September 23, 2011, 03:32:27 PM
All include a guest musician.

Correct  :tup
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 23, 2011, 03:35:40 PM
 :laugh:

Okay. let me think of one...

A Change of Seasons
Honor Thy Father
The Best Of Times
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 23, 2011, 04:12:35 PM
All three are about a Portnoy relative? I believe ACOS is about his mother, and the other two about his father
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 23, 2011, 04:19:12 PM
True.. but that was the obvious answer. No!  :D
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 23, 2011, 04:25:14 PM
They all feature spoken samples from movies? I know ACOS is from Dead poets society, and Honor thy father has some from something involving Christopher Walken, but I dunno about Best of times
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 23, 2011, 04:29:03 PM
No :smiley:
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: rcseeley421 on September 23, 2011, 04:31:57 PM
They are all written by Mike Portnoy?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: visitor on September 23, 2011, 04:36:33 PM
They are about Portnoy's dad? :P

maybe childhood
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: metropofreak on September 23, 2011, 04:41:27 PM
They are all written about a relative of MPs who is now dead?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: senecadawg2 on September 23, 2011, 04:46:56 PM
I can think of much more other than the obvious. All written by Portnoy about passed away family members.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 23, 2011, 04:51:16 PM
No. It's more obvious than that!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: senecadawg2 on September 23, 2011, 04:52:54 PM
All lyrics  written by Portnoy  :P
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: rcseeley421 on September 23, 2011, 04:53:12 PM
Hint?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Pols Voice on September 23, 2011, 04:53:49 PM
They're all longer than 10 minutes. :P
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 23, 2011, 04:54:54 PM
All were recorded in New York City? I'm really clutching at straws now
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 23, 2011, 04:56:00 PM
They're all longer than 10 minutes. :P

There you go!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: visitor on September 23, 2011, 04:56:41 PM
They're all longer than 10 minutes. :P

There you go!

WOW
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Pols Voice on September 23, 2011, 04:56:47 PM
Haha.

Peruvian Skies
Anna Lee
The Spirit Carries On
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 23, 2011, 04:57:11 PM
And I tried so hard....  :'(
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Mbarak on September 23, 2011, 05:01:14 PM
Haha.

Peruvian Skies
Anna Lee
The Spirit Carries On

All three about a female character?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Pols Voice on September 23, 2011, 05:02:28 PM
Haha.

Peruvian Skies
Anna Lee
The Spirit Carries On

All three about a female character?

VERY close, but not exactly what I was looking for.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: senecadawg2 on September 23, 2011, 05:03:53 PM
All deal with death
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: rcseeley421 on September 23, 2011, 05:04:18 PM
All three dealing with the idea of an afterlife/another life than the one at hand?

Or realizing potential and essentially renewing ones faith in a better life?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Mbarak on September 23, 2011, 05:05:05 PM
Ok all females with tragic stories/ending
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Pols Voice on September 23, 2011, 05:07:33 PM
Nope. Mbarak's first guess was more on the right track.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 23, 2011, 05:08:30 PM
All three include a female name in their lyrics?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Pols Voice on September 23, 2011, 05:09:00 PM
All three include a female name in their lyrics?

Yes!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 23, 2011, 05:10:11 PM
WOOOO!!!  ;D  Ok give me a few minutes...
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Mbarak on September 23, 2011, 05:12:17 PM
That was a good one
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 23, 2011, 05:13:42 PM
Ok this may be a little easy but anyway:

Learning to Live
Forsaken
Blind Faith
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Acideus on September 23, 2011, 05:16:10 PM
They all begin with a keyboard intro.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: rcseeley421 on September 23, 2011, 05:16:28 PM
Seeing life in a new light?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Mbarak on September 23, 2011, 05:16:40 PM
Piano?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 23, 2011, 05:18:13 PM
Acideus is correct :tup
Your turn :D
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: senecadawg2 on September 23, 2011, 05:18:50 PM
Piano?

this
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Acideus on September 23, 2011, 05:20:13 PM
Acideus is correct :tup
Your turn :D

Hooray! ;D

Panic Attack
The Best Of Times
Metropolis Pt. 1
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 23, 2011, 05:23:15 PM
5th tracks on their respective albums
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Acideus on September 23, 2011, 05:24:16 PM
5th tracks on their respective albums

Correct.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 23, 2011, 05:31:34 PM
Jamesman Jamesman Jamesman Jamesman Jamesman Jamesman Jamesman Jamesman Jamesman Jamesman


Uhhh


Metropolis Pt. 1
Breaking All Illusions
These Walls

(Note: this will be very tough because y'all over-analyze everything)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jaffa on September 23, 2011, 05:32:53 PM
(Note: this will be very tough because y'all over-analyze everything)

Okay then, going with a ridiculously simple guess: they're your favorite DT songs?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Acideus on September 23, 2011, 05:34:33 PM
Metropolis Pt. 1
Breaking All Illusions
These Walls

Lyrics by Petrucci?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 23, 2011, 05:34:53 PM
All feature guitar solos from john petrucci?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 23, 2011, 05:35:20 PM
No...though Metropolis is my favorite DT song ever but nope

Edit:

Metropolis Pt. 1
Breaking All Illusions
These Walls


Lyrics by Petrucci?

Nope, it's harder than that.

All feature guitar solos from john petrucci?

Nope
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: senecadawg2 on September 23, 2011, 05:38:14 PM
they all deal with breaking through boundaries (maybe  :P)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 23, 2011, 05:39:02 PM
I guess that is true but that is not it
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Mbarak on September 23, 2011, 05:40:19 PM
All end with epic strings/symphonic synths
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Acideus on September 23, 2011, 05:42:14 PM
All end with epic strings/symphonic synths
Beat me to it.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 23, 2011, 05:45:49 PM
All end with epic strings/symphonic synths

Nope


Y'all need to stop playing around and take notes on the songs, because it ain't that easy
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 23, 2011, 05:48:47 PM
Seriously no one post in this thread anymore, it isn't a fucking game. This just got real.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 23, 2011, 05:49:59 PM
They are all DT songs.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 23, 2011, 05:50:14 PM
:neverusethis:

Nope.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: kijuer on September 23, 2011, 05:52:20 PM
Didn't check for this but I'll try anyway...same key?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Mbarak on September 23, 2011, 05:52:41 PM
Gotta eliminate the obvious ones first:

All mention the title in the lyrics
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 23, 2011, 05:53:35 PM
Didn't check for this but I'll try anyway...same key?

Nope.

Gotta eliminate the obvious ones first:

All mention the title in the lyrics

You're actually getting somewhat on the right track now.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: senecadawg2 on September 23, 2011, 05:57:41 PM
All the songs have the chorus's 'main theme' played in the intro? Not sure about Metropolis, but definitely true for the other two.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 23, 2011, 06:00:14 PM
Its longer than 1 minute in each before vocals come in
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Mbarak on September 23, 2011, 06:02:45 PM
All come after a ballad
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 23, 2011, 06:03:39 PM
Nope to everything
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: senecadawg2 on September 23, 2011, 06:03:49 PM
All of the lyrics were written by John.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: senecadawg2 on September 23, 2011, 06:06:28 PM
OR, All are surrounded on either side by shorter songs.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 23, 2011, 06:07:00 PM
No

Edit:

OR, All are surrounded on either side by shorter songs.

No, but nice nugget
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Mbarak on September 23, 2011, 06:07:40 PM
All end with the letter "s"
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 23, 2011, 06:08:40 PM
The Miracle and The Sleepers?

No
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 23, 2011, 06:08:53 PM
But that sounds like a good idea for a band name...thanks!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: olliemedsy on September 23, 2011, 06:09:13 PM
all lyrics written by original members
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: senecadawg2 on September 23, 2011, 06:14:57 PM
They come from your three favorite albums, I&W 8varium and ADTOE
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 23, 2011, 06:16:06 PM
It has nothing to do with my personal preference. It is objective.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jaffa on September 23, 2011, 06:16:44 PM
Just putting it out there that this probably has something to do either with the lyrics or the titles:

All mention the title in the lyrics

You're actually getting somewhat on the right track now.

I mean, I for one am clueless, but it might help someone else come up with something.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: energythief on September 23, 2011, 06:18:08 PM
They are all DT songs.


 :lol


Somebody please get this - don't let Jamesman win.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 23, 2011, 06:18:41 PM
jamesman wins!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Pols Voice on September 23, 2011, 06:19:27 PM
Uh...all titles contain the letter L.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 23, 2011, 06:19:45 PM
lol no
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: olliemedsy on September 23, 2011, 06:21:10 PM
(https://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrdbuwiWtL1qe4so8.png)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 23, 2011, 06:21:42 PM
None of the lyrics contain the letter 'z'.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 23, 2011, 06:22:15 PM
None of the lyrics contain the letter 'z'.

And we have a










LOSER











Nope.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 23, 2011, 06:23:39 PM
Ok, what about Q?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: olliemedsy on September 23, 2011, 06:25:11 PM
come on, you have to give us a clue haha
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: senecadawg2 on September 23, 2011, 06:28:19 PM
It could be argued that all of the songs contain lyrics which relate to other DT songs
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 23, 2011, 06:29:22 PM
Hint: Think letters

And not that douchebag that hates dream theater haha just kidding haha haha
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Mbarak on September 23, 2011, 06:30:09 PM
2 s's in each song?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 23, 2011, 06:30:30 PM
All have s's in them
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 23, 2011, 06:35:11 PM
2 s's in each song?

What do you mean "in each song"?

All have s's in them

In "them"? What is "them"?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Mbarak on September 23, 2011, 06:36:29 PM
in each title of song..the less obvious is metropolis pt 1 the miracle and the sleeper
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 23, 2011, 06:36:50 PM
S's in the song titles? In the lyrics themselves?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: senecadawg2 on September 23, 2011, 06:37:14 PM
Each title has two s's in it!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 23, 2011, 06:37:49 PM
No to all of the above.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 23, 2011, 06:38:56 PM
First line of each song contains at least 1 s
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 23, 2011, 06:39:48 PM
Now you are getting somewhere on the right track, even closer
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Pols Voice on September 23, 2011, 06:40:57 PM
First lines all contain a word that starts with s.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 23, 2011, 06:41:58 PM
He just said that

But stay in this general vicinity
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: senecadawg2 on September 23, 2011, 06:42:34 PM
Breaking All Illusions-->Streams of thought awaken

Metropolis-->Metropolis, Part 2 SFAM, watches and thoughtfully smiles

These Walls-->Falling into darkness Infinity!

Maybe I'm reaching a little
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Mbarak on September 23, 2011, 06:42:49 PM
Not only that, it's in the title, first and last line of lyrics of each song. Getting desperate here.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 23, 2011, 06:43:53 PM
Guys, i said "think letters"
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Pols Voice on September 23, 2011, 06:44:12 PM
He just said that

But stay in this general vicinity

No, he said the lines contain at least one s, and I said they contain a word that STARTS with s. :P

And I just dropped my Systematic Chaos CD and broke the jewel case. This thread is ruining my life. :lol
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: olliemedsy on September 23, 2011, 06:45:02 PM
all the songs lyrics contain letters?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 23, 2011, 06:45:43 PM
Good, this is gonna drive people bananas like the time I introduced things that belonged in a perfect world. :lol

all the songs lyrics contain letters?

A lot more specific than that.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 23, 2011, 06:45:58 PM
The titles of each have at least one case of double letters, eg in illusions, there are two l's in a row
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 23, 2011, 06:46:58 PM
I confirmed the general vicinity was in the first line of the lyrics....so no
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Fiery Winds on September 23, 2011, 06:51:39 PM
All three have an 's' in the first line of their lyrics?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: olliemedsy on September 23, 2011, 06:51:54 PM
another clue? haha
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Mbarak on September 23, 2011, 06:52:49 PM
Total of letters of the first line is an odd number
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: senecadawg2 on September 23, 2011, 06:53:38 PM
the sun--> Thes un
The smile-->Thes mile
                     These Walls
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 23, 2011, 06:53:49 PM
All s's in the first line of lyrics appear either at the end or at the start of a word.
Now we're getting a little bit crazy
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 23, 2011, 06:54:33 PM
OK, forget the s's. Nothing to do with s's.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: senecadawg2 on September 23, 2011, 06:56:23 PM
The two lines 'with the sun in place' and 'the smile of dawn' are interesting similar. Don't see anything with These Walls though
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 23, 2011, 06:57:07 PM
TWO. LETTERS.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 23, 2011, 06:58:10 PM
First lines of each song contain a word starting with 'th'
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: olliemedsy on September 23, 2011, 07:03:14 PM
le bump?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Mbarak on September 23, 2011, 07:03:35 PM
Jamesman please stop viewing other topics and end this madness here!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 23, 2011, 07:03:44 PM
First lines of each song contain a word starting with 'th'

WINNER

Good job 1,000 posts later eh?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 23, 2011, 07:04:17 PM
I hope you go to sleep tonight knowing the name Jamesman.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 23, 2011, 07:04:46 PM
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Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: olliemedsy on September 23, 2011, 07:05:00 PM
right. next one
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 23, 2011, 07:05:34 PM
Incidentally I'm going to sleep now, anyone who wants to carry this on feel free
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: senecadawg2 on September 23, 2011, 07:05:41 PM
Wow, after all the hours i've spent staring at the lyrics. Analyzing the structures. Counting letters and words.... i feel cheated
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 23, 2011, 07:05:57 PM
I hope Jamesman doesn't get Another Won right.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: olliemedsy on September 23, 2011, 07:06:03 PM
i will. give me a moment
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Mbarak on September 23, 2011, 07:06:30 PM
namgalsipsclar you got huge shoes to fill bro..good luck

Edit: oops you're going to sleep.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: olliemedsy on September 23, 2011, 07:08:37 PM
he's going offline. so i choose

Pull me under
Lie
Take the time
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 23, 2011, 07:12:09 PM
All have KevMo lyrics
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: senecadawg2 on September 23, 2011, 07:12:53 PM
All the lyrics contain the word 'breath'
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Fiery Winds on September 23, 2011, 07:13:09 PM
All three have official music videos.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: senecadawg2 on September 23, 2011, 07:14:42 PM
Pull me under- Every breath leaves one less to my last
Lie- It's a wonder I can still breathe
Take the time- Just let me catch my breath
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: olliemedsy on September 23, 2011, 07:16:32 PM
nope
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: senecadawg2 on September 23, 2011, 07:17:45 PM
nope

What!! But its true!   :angry:
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Fiery Winds on September 23, 2011, 07:18:40 PM
They are the first three tracks on the Greatest Hit... album.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: olliemedsy on September 23, 2011, 07:18:58 PM
nope

What!! But its true!   :angry:

i know it is. but it was also true that the first lines in the songs in the last one all had the letter "s", but that wasn't the right answer
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 23, 2011, 07:19:15 PM
Titles contain verbs.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: olliemedsy on September 23, 2011, 07:19:21 PM
They are the first three tracks on the Greatest Hit... album.

CORRECT
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Fiery Winds on September 23, 2011, 07:28:31 PM
 :D  This shouldn't be too difficult.

Lines in the Sand
Surrounded
About to Crash
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 23, 2011, 07:30:13 PM
All have badass keyboard intros.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Fiery Winds on September 23, 2011, 07:31:50 PM
All have badass keyboard intros.

Affirmative!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 23, 2011, 07:35:43 PM
The Dance Of Eternity
Endless Sacrifice
Octavarium
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 23, 2011, 07:36:30 PM
All have instrumental sections :neverusethis:
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Pols Voice on September 23, 2011, 07:37:01 PM
Contain goofy Rudess moments.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 23, 2011, 07:38:01 PM
Nah
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: gm5k on September 23, 2011, 07:53:57 PM
All have guitar/keyboard unison solos/sections
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: energythief on September 23, 2011, 08:53:23 PM
How obscure is this one?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Mbarak on September 24, 2011, 06:39:03 AM
bump

All songs convey some type of infinity: Eternity, Endless while Octavarium's main theme is moving in circles, back where it began..etc
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: DreamTension on September 24, 2011, 07:26:24 AM
They are your favorite songs from their respective album?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 24, 2011, 07:30:41 AM
You have seen all three songs performed live?
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Post by: Mbarak on September 24, 2011, 07:37:47 AM
Each song featured only once on live CD's/DVD's
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 24, 2011, 08:35:30 AM
No.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: rcseeley421 on September 24, 2011, 08:39:43 AM
They all involve some sort of ragtime/improvisation part in the middle?
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Post by: fibreoptix on September 24, 2011, 08:40:37 AM
Is it something to do with time sigs?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 24, 2011, 08:43:47 AM
They all begin with keyboards
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Mbarak on September 24, 2011, 08:47:43 AM
I think it's a good time to give us a clue
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 24, 2011, 08:48:55 AM
Okay. You really don't have to listen to the songs to figure this one out.
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Post by: theseoafs on September 24, 2011, 08:58:06 AM
All the songs' lyrics (or, in the case of TDOE, the title) refer to the concept of endlessness or infinity.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 24, 2011, 09:01:53 AM
All the songs' lyrics (or, in the case of TDOE, the title) refer to the concept of endlessness or infinity.

Aye.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: fibreoptix on September 24, 2011, 09:05:26 AM
Didn't mbarak already suggest that? :huh:
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 24, 2011, 09:05:52 AM
Yes, he did.
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Post by: theseoafs on September 24, 2011, 09:08:12 AM
I concede my victory in that case.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 24, 2011, 09:09:47 AM
Oh, I didn't see that :lol


Mbarak wins. Sorry theseoafs :(
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Mbarak on September 24, 2011, 09:42:37 AM
Yay

alright, I don't believe there is a third DT song that share the same characteristic, so it's a Bibond:

Stream of Consciousness
Bridges in the Sky
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Acideus on September 24, 2011, 09:44:52 AM
Yay

alright, I don't believe there is a third DT song that share the same characteristic, so it's a Bibond:

Stream of Consciousness
Bridges in the Sky
They are both 11:xx minutes long.

EDIT: realized there's more than 2 DT songs like that :facepalm:
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: rcseeley421 on September 24, 2011, 09:48:23 AM
They are about discovering oneself in a "waking dream" and trying to rediscover/regain full control of their lives and souls
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Mbarak on September 24, 2011, 09:52:32 AM
Nope
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Post by: BlobVanDam on September 24, 2011, 09:54:08 AM
They are the only 2 Dream Theater songs between the lengths of 11:02 and 11:16
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: reneranucci on September 24, 2011, 09:54:16 AM
They were both working titles of Dt albums
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Mbarak on September 24, 2011, 09:59:46 AM
They were both working titles of Dt albums

Bingo! I knew this question would attract some DTF veterans  :tup

Your turn reneranucci
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: reneranucci on September 24, 2011, 10:05:40 AM
Thank you! I just learned that on one of the recent threads  :lol

Ok, my turn:

Pull me Under
Learning to Live
In the Presence of Enemies pts. 1 & 2

This shouldn't be that hard  :)

Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 24, 2011, 10:07:37 AM
They all begin and end their respective albums
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: reneranucci on September 24, 2011, 10:09:12 AM
They all begin and end their respective albums
That's true, but not what I had in mind.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Acideus on September 24, 2011, 10:14:58 AM
They all begin and end their respective albums
That's true, but not what I had in mind.
The lyrics are told from a first-person narrative?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: reneranucci on September 24, 2011, 10:18:05 AM
No, but HINT: it has to do with the lyrics
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 24, 2011, 10:20:40 AM
Erm well Pull me under is based on hamlet and ITPoE is inspired by manga i think, but i dunno about LEarning to live. Something to do with what the lyrics are based on?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 24, 2011, 10:20:43 AM
They all deal with death?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 24, 2011, 10:21:44 AM
They're all based on past writings/literature
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: reneranucci on September 24, 2011, 10:22:09 AM
Erm well Pull me under is based on hamlet and ITPoE is inspired by manga i think, but i dunno about LEarning to live. Something to do with what the lyrics are based on?
Yep, you're almost there.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 24, 2011, 10:23:47 AM
WHAT ABOUT ME
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: reneranucci on September 24, 2011, 10:23:56 AM
They're all based on past writings/literature
Almost almost there. They're not only based on literary works, but they also..

They all deal with death?
Hey, this is true, too. Many songs have many things in common  :lol
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 24, 2011, 10:24:50 AM
Don't let Jamesman win, we all know what happens when he makes a tribond.... ;)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: reneranucci on September 24, 2011, 10:25:35 AM
Don't let Jamesman win, we all know what happens when he makes a tribond.... ;)
:lol I'm doing my best. Hopefully he'll keep guessing for a page or two more  :P
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: The Silent Cody on September 24, 2011, 10:25:57 AM
 :-[ movies ? :neverusethis:
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 24, 2011, 10:26:16 AM
They quote the works
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Acideus on September 24, 2011, 10:26:36 AM
Based on plays?
(dear god don't let jamesman win)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 24, 2011, 10:27:16 AM
I wasn't aware that LtL's lyrics were based on anything.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: reneranucci on September 24, 2011, 10:28:24 AM
They quote the works
This! Congratulations jam... oh damn!

They have exact quotes from literary works:
LTL: "there's not time for pain no energy for anger..." (Atlas Shrugged)
PMU: "oh that this too solid flesh would melt" (Hamlet)
ITPOE: a bunch.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 24, 2011, 10:29:13 AM
I wasn't aware that LtL's lyrics were based on anything.

https://dreamtheater.wikia.com/wiki/Learning_to_Live
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 24, 2011, 10:29:41 AM
Sweet, give me some time to figure out what songs and what common characteristic
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 24, 2011, 10:29:51 AM
What's wrong with James choosing one? Is it going to be like that time I played 20 questions with someone and chose "yellow" as the thing they were guessing?

Two hours later, they were severely pissed off at me.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 24, 2011, 10:30:04 AM
Go easy on us James...
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 24, 2011, 10:32:15 AM
Easy? IF YOU WANT EASY GO LISTEN TO LADY GAGA

THIS IS A PROG METAL BAND AND AS SUCH DUE TO THE NATURE OF THEIR MUSIC IT WILL BE HARDER THAN THE AVERAGE BEAR
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 24, 2011, 10:35:05 AM
The Count of Tuscany
A Change of Seasons
The Spirit Carries On


This will be hard as fuck.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: reneranucci on September 24, 2011, 10:36:34 AM
It wouldn't surprise me if James chose three songs where the word "forevermore" was the 18th element of a Fibonacci sequence.

Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 24, 2011, 10:37:23 AM
Yeah, it's probably that level of complicated and out there.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 24, 2011, 10:38:05 AM
Ok let me guess, at 3:19 in each song, Rudess plays a G sharp
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 24, 2011, 10:38:30 AM
They all start without drums/bass
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: reneranucci on September 24, 2011, 10:38:55 AM
They all deal with death? Trivia: every Dt song has something to do with death

Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Acideus on September 24, 2011, 10:39:55 AM
They all start with only one instrument playing?
ACOS: Guitar
TCOT: Guitar
TSCO: Piano

EDIT: Having typed that out, I noticed the song titles look very similar when abbrevated... Hmm...
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: VioletS16 on September 24, 2011, 10:40:01 AM
Hmm... each title has 4 words in it? *tee hee*  :laugh:
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 24, 2011, 10:45:53 AM
"say"
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: reneranucci on September 24, 2011, 10:47:18 AM
Based on what Acideus said: they all have carbon monoxide on their title?
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Post by: Marion Crane on September 24, 2011, 10:49:20 AM
Ok this may be a little easy but anyway:

Learning to Live
Forsaken
Blind Faith

All 3 songs start with a keyboard?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Acideus on September 24, 2011, 10:52:14 AM
Ok this may be a little easy but anyway:

Learning to Live
Forsaken
Blind Faith

All 3 songs start with a keyboard?

I think you missed the other 5 pages of replies :lol
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Sketchy on September 24, 2011, 10:53:15 AM
All three end in 3/4
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 24, 2011, 10:53:39 AM
Hmm... each title has 4 words in it? *tee hee*  :laugh:
Based on what Acideus said: they all have carbon monoxide on their title?

These are on the right track somewhat
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 24, 2011, 10:55:29 AM
No 'Z'in the titles?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Marion Crane on September 24, 2011, 10:56:10 AM
Ok this may be a little easy but anyway:

Learning to Live
Forsaken
Blind Faith

All 3 songs start with a keyboard?

I think you missed the other 5 pages of replies :lol

Ha!  Yeah apparently I did
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: reneranucci on September 24, 2011, 10:57:41 AM
All the titles have this structure: Article + noun + compliment
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Post by: Mbarak on September 24, 2011, 10:58:49 AM
Edit: ninja'd

Reneranucci your avatar is too distracting!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Acideus on September 24, 2011, 10:59:35 AM
If you take one letter of one title and swap it with one letter in one of the other titles you can get the name of another one of the songs.

e.g. swap the A in ACOS for the T in TSCO and then move the letters around.
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Post by: Jamesman42 on September 24, 2011, 11:00:59 AM
All the titles have this structure: Article + noun + compliment

No it's a lot more specific and retarded than that

If you take one letter of one title and swap it with one letter in one of the other titles you can get the name of another one of the songs.

e.g. swap the A in ACOS for the T in TSCO and then move the letters around.

Ok, now youre getting even more on the right track, though not quite there yet
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Acideus on September 24, 2011, 11:03:36 AM
ACOS is from ACOS
TCOT is from BCSL
TSCO is from SFAM

Their respective albums also have 4 letters? I dunno.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 24, 2011, 11:04:03 AM
No, now youre moving away from it
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 24, 2011, 11:04:45 AM
As initials they all have CO in them
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Sketchy on September 24, 2011, 11:05:57 AM
The C is neither at the beginning or end of any title?
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Post by: BlackInk on September 24, 2011, 11:09:02 AM
Based on what Acideus said: they all have carbon monoxide on their title?
Do not breathe while listening then.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: hacko on September 24, 2011, 11:14:21 AM
Since he said it was at an insane level:

The three titles combined have 17 syllables.

If we switch a single syllable word from either of the 6 syllable titles to the other 6 syllable title (TCOT to TSCO or viceversa) and put it in the middle, then the syllable count ends up 5 / 7 / 5 , which, combined with the total of 17 syllables, would make it have the structure of a haiku.

Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 24, 2011, 11:14:59 AM
So is it definitely to do with the titles of songs or do lyrics come into it as well?
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Post by: Acideus on September 24, 2011, 11:15:33 AM
Since he said it was at an insane level:

The three titles combined have 17 syllables.

If we switch a single syllable word from either of the 6 syllable titles to the other 6 syllable title (TCOT to TSCO or viceversa) and put it in the middle, then the syllable count ends up 5 / 7 / 5 , which, combined with the total of 17 syllables, would make it have the structure of a haiku.

 :|
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 24, 2011, 11:15:55 AM
As initials they all have CO in them
The C is neither at the beginning or end of any title?

Ok, the C is a part of it.

Since he said it was at an insane level:

The three titles combined have 17 syllables.

If we switch a single syllable word from either of the 6 syllable titles to the other 6 syllable title (TCOT to TSCO or viceversa) and put it in the middle, then the syllable count ends up 5 / 7 / 5 , which, combined with the total of 17 syllables, would make it have the structure of a haiku.



I wish it were that retarded. :lol
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 24, 2011, 11:16:34 AM
So is it definitely to do with the titles of songs or do lyrics come into it as well?

You could know this (eventually, after 2 years probably) without ever hearing the songs or reading the lyrics.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Sketchy on September 24, 2011, 11:17:09 AM
Since he said it was at an insane level:

The three titles combined have 17 syllables.

If we switch a single syllable word from either of the 6 syllable titles to the other 6 syllable title (TCOT to TSCO or viceversa) and put it in the middle, then the syllable count ends up 5 / 7 / 5 , which, combined with the total of 17 syllables, would make it have the structure of a haiku.

O_o Mind. Blown.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: reneranucci on September 24, 2011, 11:18:47 AM
Three of the letters on one of the longer words are repeated on the other long word, and you can compose another word with those letters:

Change Seasons: a,n,e from change are repeated on seasons. You can form the word "ANE"
Count Tuscany: c,u,t,n from count are repeated on tuscany. You can form the word "CUNT"
Spirit Carries: s,i,r are repeated in carries. You can form the word "SIR"
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 24, 2011, 11:20:30 AM
Three of the letters on one of the longer words are repeated on the other long word, and you can compose another word with those letters:

Change Seasons: a,n,e from change are repeated on seasons. You can form the word "ANE"
Count Tuscany: c,u,t,n from count are repeated on tuscany. You can form the word "CUNT"
Spirit Carries: s,i,r are repeated in carries. You can form the word "SIR"

So you are pretty much there...except a bit off on the word choice and method
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Metropolis pt.-1 on September 24, 2011, 11:21:37 AM
Using the first letter of each of the words in the titles you can create the anagram TACO COST COST
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 24, 2011, 11:22:16 AM
No youre moving away from the idea
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Mbarak on September 24, 2011, 11:24:59 AM
Only DT songs with acronyms of 4 letters one of them is c
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 24, 2011, 11:27:28 AM
No, rena was more on the right track
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: reneranucci on September 24, 2011, 11:30:52 AM
If you combine the letters of the words that start with C, you can form the words that don't start with C:

Change, Carries, Count gives you the letters c h a n g e r i s o u n t

With those letters, you can form Seasons, sirit and tuscani  :lol

Ok, another shot: if you combine the letters of the words that start with c, you get the 5 vowels. The same happens if you combine the letters of the words that don't start with c.

If I'm wrong, I'll check this thread when it reaches page 10.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: LCArenas on September 24, 2011, 11:33:18 AM
The Count Carries Change?
Wait.

Count=5 Letters
Change=6 Letters
Carries=7 Letters.

The words that start with "C" have consecutive number of letters.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: energythief on September 24, 2011, 11:39:40 AM
Jamesman is destroying my thread.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Sketchy on September 24, 2011, 11:40:27 AM
None of the words with C contain the word "duck".
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Acideus on September 24, 2011, 11:41:09 AM
Jamesman is destroying my thread.

And my life. I've been trying to puzzle together words using the song titles for half an hour now. :'(
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: reneranucci on September 24, 2011, 11:43:05 AM
The Count Carries Change?
Wait.

Count=5 Letters
Change=6 Letters
Carries=7 Letters.

The words that start with "C" have consecutive number of letters.
This! And the ones that don't start with C have all 7 letters (except for Spirit which you can change to spirits)! And DT auditioned 7 drummers! The ultimate nugget!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jaffa on September 24, 2011, 11:48:05 AM
Three of the letters on one of the longer words are repeated on the other long word, and you can compose another word with those letters:

Change Seasons: a,n,e from change are repeated on seasons. You can form the word "ANE"
Count Tuscany: c,u,t,n from count are repeated on tuscany. You can form the word "CUNT"
Spirit Carries: s,i,r are repeated in carries. You can form the word "SIR"

So you are pretty much there...except a bit off on the word choice and method

Word choice?  So like, is it that you were going for the word 'nut' or 'cut' instead of 'cunt'? 

Just ruling that out.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Mbarak on September 24, 2011, 11:51:23 AM
He said it was wrong on word choice and method, which pretty much means it's all wrong.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Xanthul on September 24, 2011, 11:57:07 AM
The letters that appear on all three acronyms are COS. Jamesman loves math, so we have to do the cosine of something.

ACOS 23:06 which is 1386 seconds
TCOT 19:16 which is 1156 seconds
TSCO 6:38 which is 398 seconds

Total = 2940 seconds

Cosine of 2940 is 0,500000000000003 which is remarkably close to 0,5 which is a half.

We've all wasted half our lives on Jamesman's riddle.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 24, 2011, 11:58:16 AM
lol
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jaffa on September 24, 2011, 11:59:24 AM
I think you should call Xanthul correct even if he isn't.  Gotta love the effort!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: senecadawg2 on September 24, 2011, 11:59:55 AM
Jamesman is evil
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: LCArenas on September 24, 2011, 12:00:48 PM
lol
HAVE YOU QUESTIONED ALL THE MADNESS YOU INVITE?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: fibreoptix on September 24, 2011, 12:06:37 PM
lol
HAVE YOU QUESTIONED ALL THE MADNESS YOU INVITE?

*laughs*
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Fiery Winds on September 24, 2011, 12:24:28 PM
Change
Count
Carries

All three only share the letter C.

Seasons
Tuscany
Spirit

All three only share the letter S.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 24, 2011, 12:37:04 PM
Keep the c and the s now
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Fiery Winds on September 24, 2011, 12:41:45 PM
CS = Charlie Sheen?

Captain Sparrow?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 24, 2011, 12:44:22 PM
HINT: You can use the letters in each title to make this 4-letter word.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Pols Voice on September 24, 2011, 12:52:29 PM
Scan?
Cans?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Fiery Winds on September 24, 2011, 12:53:03 PM
CASE?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Acideus on September 24, 2011, 12:53:32 PM
Disc?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 24, 2011, 12:54:03 PM
Cans?

WINNER
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 24, 2011, 12:54:24 PM
I make this thread fun, no?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Pols Voice on September 24, 2011, 12:55:00 PM
Wow. Just wow. :lol

Take the Time
Scarred
The Ministry of Lost Souls
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Acideus on September 24, 2011, 12:56:26 PM
Fade-out endings.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Pols Voice on September 24, 2011, 12:57:34 PM
Fade-out endings.

That was fast. You're up.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Acideus on September 24, 2011, 12:59:16 PM
I had to be faster than jamesman to prevent a tragedy.

1. A Change Of Seasons
2. In The Name Of God
3. Octavarium
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 24, 2011, 01:01:07 PM
They all end their respective...discs...if you dont count the covers
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 24, 2011, 01:03:22 PM
They're all the longest song on their albums/discs?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Acideus on September 24, 2011, 01:03:47 PM
True, but not what I'm thinking of.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 24, 2011, 01:05:07 PM
They all feature JLB screaming in some way.

I'M SICK OF ALL YOU HYPOCRITES
JUSTIFYING VIOLENCE
TRAPPED INSIDE THIS OCTAVARIUM
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Marion Crane on September 24, 2011, 01:08:46 PM
They all feature a bass breakdown
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Acideus on September 24, 2011, 01:09:29 PM
Nope.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 24, 2011, 01:10:47 PM
They all feature long unisons
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Sketchy on September 24, 2011, 01:11:11 PM
The titles are all five syllables long.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Acideus on September 24, 2011, 01:12:06 PM
The titles are all five syllables long.

Yeah, you're right.
And Jamesman is not.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 24, 2011, 01:12:48 PM
Just you watch since you said that next time I win it'll be impossible to get mine :yarr
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Sketchy on September 24, 2011, 01:16:03 PM
Sweet. Ok

Lifting Shadows Off A Dream
The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun
A Change Of Seasons

(Yes, I know, ACOS again, but it was the least obvious of few songs which have this in common)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Acideus on September 24, 2011, 01:20:49 PM
Wild guess, bass harmonics?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Sketchy on September 24, 2011, 01:21:37 PM
DAMNIT

Yes.

Edit: Nicely done.
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Post by: IJewBear on September 24, 2011, 01:21:56 PM
Edit: Nope. I was wrong.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Acideus on September 24, 2011, 01:22:44 PM
Haha, sweet!

Give me some time to think of a new one.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Sketchy on September 24, 2011, 01:24:48 PM
I had to use ACOS, as the only other ones I could think of have it very obviously in the intro.
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Post by: Marion Crane on September 24, 2011, 01:25:44 PM
I had to use ACOS, as the only other ones I could think of have it very obviously in the intro.

Lines in the Sand would've been a good one
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Post by: Sketchy on September 24, 2011, 01:26:52 PM
It really would have been, but I didn't realise it had them. :(

Edit: It's taken me twenty minutes, but I've just figured out where the bass harmonics are.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Marion Crane on September 24, 2011, 01:28:01 PM
UGH! I wanna win!  I've got a really good one.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Acideus on September 24, 2011, 01:29:47 PM
Here you go.

1. Finally Free
2. Repentance
3. Raise The Knife
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Post by: IJewBear on September 24, 2011, 01:35:33 PM
They all take a minute and a half until the vocals come in?
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Post by: reneranucci on September 24, 2011, 01:36:48 PM
I think it has something to do with their length
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Sketchy on September 24, 2011, 01:37:22 PM
Portnoy lyrics
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Post by: Acideus on September 24, 2011, 01:37:58 PM
No to all.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Marion Crane on September 24, 2011, 01:40:47 PM
They all have parts that have  to do with writing (note, publishing, etc...)

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Post by: IJewBear on September 24, 2011, 01:41:06 PM
They all have extensive endings that repeat the same riff?
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Post by: Acideus on September 24, 2011, 01:42:28 PM
Nope.
This might be a tough one.
Not jamesman-difficult but just a little.
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Post by: Sketchy on September 24, 2011, 01:43:46 PM
They all end in "e"
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Marion Crane on September 24, 2011, 01:47:12 PM
They all have to do with destroying a relationship?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: IJewBear on September 24, 2011, 01:49:12 PM
All of them dealing with the theme of letting go?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Acideus on September 24, 2011, 01:51:18 PM
Hint: you'll have to look in the lyrics.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Marion Crane on September 24, 2011, 02:12:47 PM
Yeah...I got nuthin. 
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Post by: Sketchy on September 24, 2011, 02:25:01 PM
MY FRIEND

(it's in each set of lyrics)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Acideus on September 24, 2011, 02:28:44 PM
MY FRIEND

(it's in each set of lyrics)
Good job!
(Got the idea from this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnXwlH_hzeQ)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Marion Crane on September 24, 2011, 02:32:05 PM
UGH!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Sketchy on September 24, 2011, 02:36:15 PM
I think it was the tenth readthrough before I saw that.

Ok

In The Presence Of Enemies
Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence
Under A Glass Moon
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Post by: Mbarak on September 24, 2011, 03:07:07 PM
I'll get the ball rolling...

in, inner and under...all have to do with something/someone being somewhere.
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Post by: Sketchy on September 24, 2011, 03:08:13 PM
Nope, it's more subtle than that.

ok, I've noticed views are going up, but no replies. Therefore I shall provide a hint.

It's less what do the songs have so much as what they all don't have with most do.
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Post by: olliemedsy on September 24, 2011, 03:37:05 PM
bump  :sadpanda:
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Marion Crane on September 24, 2011, 03:38:51 PM

It's less what do the songs have so much as what they all don't have with most do.

I have no clue what this means
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Post by: Sketchy on September 24, 2011, 03:41:50 PM
Sorry, that should read: what they don't have WHICH most do. Sorry, typo.

ok: another clue. Think of Wither, Home or Peruvian Skies. What do they have which ITPOE, UAGM and SDOIT notably don't have?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Mbarak on September 24, 2011, 03:44:53 PM
They don't have the title of the song in the lyrics?
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Post by: Sketchy on September 24, 2011, 03:45:14 PM
Yup

(sorry, I was kinda trying to make it a lot easier than I had got it originally, as it's getting late here)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: olliemedsy on September 24, 2011, 03:50:08 PM
They don't have the title of the song in the lyrics?

UAGM basically does
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Post by: Mbarak on September 24, 2011, 03:50:37 PM
Nah I'm really surprised no one picked it up earlier.

I'm gonna go to sleep soon, so I'll give my turn to Marion Crane. Let's see what you got  :coolio
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Post by: olliemedsy on September 24, 2011, 03:55:03 PM
if he doesn't start soon, i'll say mine. i think its quite good
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: olliemedsy on September 24, 2011, 03:57:46 PM
kk. mine is

Through her eyes
Speak to me
Outcry
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Marion Crane on September 24, 2011, 03:59:52 PM
Dammit! Just missed it!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: energythief on September 24, 2011, 04:02:27 PM
kk. mine is

Through her eyes
Speak to me
Outcry


I'm gonna go out on a limb and predict it is NOT lyrics-related, as I just can't see a connection.


If I get it, marion, you can have my turn.
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Post by: Mbarak on September 24, 2011, 04:03:33 PM
Obvious one..all have piano sections
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: olliemedsy on September 24, 2011, 04:04:32 PM
that is true, but not what im thinking
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Mbarak on September 24, 2011, 04:13:33 PM
All songs rhyme in a similar way in their last line(s)

Looking through her eyes
Tell me all your feeling inside
As our children die
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Post by: olliemedsy on September 24, 2011, 04:18:03 PM
 :tdwn
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: metropofreak on September 24, 2011, 04:29:16 PM
Is it electric drum beats? I know Outcry and Through Her Eyes do, but Im not sure about Speak to Me.
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Post by: olliemedsy on September 24, 2011, 04:29:55 PM
Is it electric drum beats? I know Outcry and Through Her Eyes do, but Im not sure about Speak to Me.

correct
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Post by: metropofreak on September 24, 2011, 04:37:17 PM
Here we go:

1. Honor Thy Father
2. 6.00
3. Sacrificed Sons
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Post by: LCArenas on September 24, 2011, 04:40:44 PM
Sample Using in all three:
1. "The fucking regrets" part
2. "I know all about the honor of God, Mary Jane" part
3. 9/11 News report in the intro
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: metropofreak on September 24, 2011, 04:42:04 PM
Well that didnt last long. You got it!  :tup
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: LCArenas on September 24, 2011, 04:43:07 PM
Well that didnt last long. You got it!  :tup
Awesome! :myungwoot:

I'm gonna think about mine.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: LCArenas on September 24, 2011, 04:48:04 PM
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun
Another Day
The Shattered Fortress

Might be a bit tricky.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Sketchy on September 24, 2011, 04:59:20 PM
TOWHTSTS and TSF have bass harmonics, but I doubt Another day has. Other than that there's nothing similar about them that I know...
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Post by: LCArenas on September 24, 2011, 05:05:03 PM
No, it isn't about that.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Sketchy on September 24, 2011, 05:05:57 PM
lol, good.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jaffa on September 24, 2011, 05:11:10 PM
I can't think of anything those have in common except that they are among my least favorites on their respective albums.  So, just to guess...

Those are your least favorites on their respective albums?   :lol

I'm bad at this game.
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Post by: John94 on September 24, 2011, 05:11:28 PM
Wild guess. Is it related to sleep/night?

TOWHTST - Sun set.
AD - Another day, overnight.
TSF - Shattered (slang for tired)
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Post by: LCArenas on September 24, 2011, 05:15:31 PM
Nope to both.

Here's a clue that should give it away: Don't check inside the songs. Check the surroundings ;)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Sketchy on September 24, 2011, 05:17:09 PM
Both next to a song about the band/music business/writing songs?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Pols Voice on September 24, 2011, 05:19:30 PM
The songs after them have the word time in the titles.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: LCArenas on September 24, 2011, 05:21:55 PM
The songs after them have the word time in the titles.
Bingo. You're next!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Pols Voice on September 24, 2011, 05:22:26 PM
Lie
Burning My Soul
Misunderstood
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Marion Crane on September 24, 2011, 05:28:45 PM
Lie
Burning My Soul
Misunderstood

Animal reference in the lyrics?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Pols Voice on September 24, 2011, 05:29:34 PM
Lie
Burning My Soul
Misunderstood

Animal reference in the lyrics?

Nice job!

Lie - dogs
Burning My Soul - ape
Misunderstood - lion
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Marion Crane on September 24, 2011, 05:33:50 PM
Finally!!!!!! Ok here goes ....

The Count of Tuscany
Scarred
Voices
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 24, 2011, 05:38:13 PM
They all contain questions in the lyrics
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Marion Crane on September 24, 2011, 05:39:26 PM
True but no
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jaffa on September 24, 2011, 05:44:16 PM
All three deal with fear?  (Voices and Scarred have it in the lyrics, TCOT has it as a major thematic element)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Marion Crane on September 24, 2011, 05:50:21 PM
Ok a hint....it's not lyrical
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 24, 2011, 05:54:16 PM
They're all in the same key
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Metrovarium on September 24, 2011, 05:55:01 PM
All have guitar (including bass guitar) intros.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: reneranucci on September 24, 2011, 05:56:04 PM
they all build up after an intro
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Marion Crane on September 24, 2011, 05:57:03 PM
All have guitar (including bass guitar) intros.

Kinda on the right track. I can't believe I'm stumping Jamesman. You guys are gonna kick yourselves when you figure it out.
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Post by: Jaffa on September 24, 2011, 06:08:41 PM
All three have volume swells?

Not at all sure about this.  But I know TCOT does, I THINK Scarred does, and I'm not even vaguely sure about Voices.  So, throwing it out there. 
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Marion Crane on September 24, 2011, 06:10:26 PM
All three have volume swells?

Not at all sure about this.  But I know TCOT does, I THINK Scarred does, and I'm not even vaguely sure about Voices.  So, throwing it out there.

BOOM!!!!
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Post by: Jaffa on September 24, 2011, 06:12:16 PM
 Honestly not sure if that means I'm correct or not.  :lol

EDIT: I guess I am, since Marion seems to have gone offline.  Should I go ahead?
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Post by: fibreoptix on September 24, 2011, 06:17:32 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Marion Crane on September 24, 2011, 06:18:05 PM
Yeah you got it son!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jaffa on September 24, 2011, 06:18:59 PM
Woohoo! 

I think mine's probably pretty easy, but oh well.  Can't come up with anything better.

As I Am
The Test That Stumped Them All
Burning My Soul
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: fibreoptix on September 24, 2011, 06:20:25 PM
EDIT: :facepalm: I'm an idiot.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Marion Crane on September 24, 2011, 06:20:38 PM
Curse words
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jaffa on September 24, 2011, 06:21:32 PM
Curse words

See?  Easy peasy.  :)

All yours again, Marion.

(EDIT:  Crap.  Just thought of a better one.  :lol)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Marion Crane on September 24, 2011, 06:24:41 PM
I only knew that because I was gonna do that next

Space Dye Vest
TMOLS
Disappear
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: fibreoptix on September 24, 2011, 06:28:34 PM
I only knew that because I was gonna do that next

Space Dye Vest
TMOLS
Disappear

All ballads/semi ballads that end their respective discs? (If you count ITPOE as one opening track. Eh, I already know this is wrong.)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Marion Crane on September 24, 2011, 06:32:45 PM
Ok this is tough and but I'll give a strong hint....

Guitar players should know the answer
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 24, 2011, 06:34:06 PM
All in the same key?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jaffa on September 24, 2011, 06:43:29 PM
All of them... have... guitar parts?   :lol  This time I'm completely clueless.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Marion Crane on September 24, 2011, 06:44:28 PM
Ok another hint.....it's a guitar-gear answer
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 24, 2011, 06:45:26 PM
All use Wah-wah?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Marion Crane on September 24, 2011, 06:47:50 PM
Ok I'll give it a few more posts then I'll give another hint
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: olliemedsy on September 24, 2011, 06:48:35 PM
1 post
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Post by: olliemedsy on September 24, 2011, 06:48:45 PM
2 posts
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Post by: olliemedsy on September 24, 2011, 06:48:55 PM
3 posts
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 24, 2011, 06:49:55 PM
As im not really a guitarist, i probably wont get it but ill guess anyway. Were all three recorded with a particular guitar that Petrucci has not used on any other tracks?
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Post by: MasterLomaxus on September 24, 2011, 06:50:38 PM
7-string?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Marion Crane on September 24, 2011, 06:51:15 PM
Ok....it's something JP uses to produce a certain effect. If you've watched the behind the scenes of "awake" you'll see him using this
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 24, 2011, 06:52:32 PM
Erm.... A pedal............of some sort?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: olliemedsy on September 24, 2011, 06:53:04 PM
i'm on the case
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: olliemedsy on September 24, 2011, 06:56:05 PM
either the fader pedal of the fret spray?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: hacko on September 24, 2011, 06:56:41 PM
Going out on a hunch.

They all use the e-bow?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jaffa on September 24, 2011, 06:57:06 PM
I now know the answer, but only because of shameless googling.

EDIT:  And hacko beat me to it anyway.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Marion Crane on September 24, 2011, 06:58:09 PM
Going out on a hunch.

They all use the e-bow?

DING DING DING!!!
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Post by: hacko on September 24, 2011, 07:02:21 PM
Ok easy one that I did on the fly:

Strange Deja Vu
Lines In The Sand
Voices
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: olliemedsy on September 24, 2011, 07:03:00 PM
they all start carrying on from another song?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: hacko on September 24, 2011, 07:03:28 PM
On the right track, but not the EXACT answer I chose em for.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jaffa on September 24, 2011, 07:05:47 PM
Um, each contains a specific melody used in another song?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: olliemedsy on September 24, 2011, 07:06:23 PM
the all come after instrumentals?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: hacko on September 24, 2011, 07:07:15 PM
ollie's right. Gratz!

however, if Jaffa's is true that's a hell of a nugget :p I'm gonna give em a listen  :rollin
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jaffa on September 24, 2011, 07:08:52 PM
however, if Jaffa's is true that's a hell of a nugget :p I'm gonna give em a listen  :rollin

Don't listen too hard.  As far as I know, they don't.  I was flat-out guessing.   :lol
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: olliemedsy on September 24, 2011, 07:09:21 PM
 :hat

i think my one may be quite challenging. we'll see :P

Take the time
Another Day
The dark eternal night
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: hacko on September 24, 2011, 07:20:17 PM
I'll get it started just to see a post increase.

They all have Portnoy vocals at one point or another?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jaffa on September 24, 2011, 07:21:21 PM
I'm stumped.  The only thing I can think of is that they all have lyrics from John Petrucci, and that answer is even weaker than usual since he's not even the sole lyricist of all of them.

Hmmm...
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: IJewBear on September 24, 2011, 07:30:23 PM
If you take another time of a day, it would be a dark eternal night?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Tsev Eyd Ecaps on September 24, 2011, 07:33:38 PM
They've extended them for live shows.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: olliemedsy on September 24, 2011, 07:43:57 PM
no, but it is to do with live instead of studio
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: hacko on September 24, 2011, 08:16:58 PM
Ok maybe it's not this way but here goes.

On the European Leg of the Chaos In Motion tour, the only tour ever that featured all three songs, they were in the rotation in such a way that at least one of them and never all three of them were played on any given show.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: LCArenas on September 24, 2011, 10:57:45 PM
Take the time
Another Day
The dark eternal night
In TTT and Another Day there they skip parts of the songs so that James doesn't sing them. Does it have anything to do with that?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: olliemedsy on September 25, 2011, 01:45:40 AM
nope :)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Metropolis pt.-1 on September 25, 2011, 02:26:49 AM
All contain harmonised parts at some point, so when played live, they can't play/sing these parts as heard on the album?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: olliemedsy on September 25, 2011, 03:13:06 AM
All contain harmonised parts at some point, so when played live, they can't play/sing these parts as heard on the album?

nope :P i'll give a clue. it's not to do with the actual music of the songs or how they play them live.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 25, 2011, 03:15:51 AM
You've seen all three songs live?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: olliemedsy on September 25, 2011, 03:16:21 AM
nope. it's nothing personal
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on September 25, 2011, 03:21:24 AM
All contain harmonised parts at some point, so when played live, they can't play/sing these parts as heard on the album?

nope :P i'll give a clue. it's not to do with the actual music of the songs or how they play them live.

All the three of them end live with a slightly elongated instrumental section (guitar solo in TTT, keyboard and occasionaly guitar in AD and continuum in TDEN) since they all fade out in their studio version.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: olliemedsy on September 25, 2011, 03:22:18 AM
you're heading the right direction
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: olliemedsy on September 25, 2011, 03:22:48 AM
even though i said its not to do with the actual music or how they play them live
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Metropolis pt.-1 on September 25, 2011, 04:06:05 AM
They all contain a part with a spotlight on one of the members of the band?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 25, 2011, 08:35:15 AM
bump
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Mbarak on September 25, 2011, 09:14:35 AM
A music video was released for each song.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: olliemedsy on September 25, 2011, 12:50:21 PM
They all contain a part with a spotlight on one of the members of the band?

very close
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: hacko on September 25, 2011, 12:51:43 PM
I'm pretty sure TDEN didn't have a video, unless you call the animation played on the concerts a video.

Another informed guess:

They've all been followed by a keyboard/piano solo on live performances:
TTT by a DS solo on 5yrs in a livetime
Another Day by a JR solo in Live Scenes from NY
TDEN by a JR solo in Chaos in Motion
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: John94 on September 25, 2011, 12:55:55 PM
Didn't TDEN have the in-studio footage.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Metropolis pt.-1 on September 25, 2011, 01:14:59 PM
They all contain a part where the light show imitates what someone is playing?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 25, 2011, 01:31:39 PM
All three have on screen animations during a live show?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Mbarak on September 25, 2011, 01:47:33 PM
Didn't TDEN have the in-studio footage.

Yep that's what I meant but it seems it's far from the answer. Will sit in for the next question.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: olliemedsy on September 25, 2011, 01:47:49 PM


They've all been followed by a keyboard/piano solo on live performances:
TTT by a DS solo on 5yrs in a livetime
Another Day by a JR solo in Live Scenes from NY
TDEN by a JR solo in Chaos in Motion

correct, my good man
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: hacko on September 25, 2011, 02:03:30 PM
Ok let's see another one, featuring a song from the previous one:

Another Day
Innocence Faded
Hollow Years
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on September 25, 2011, 02:09:27 PM
They all have very short JP solos.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: hacko on September 25, 2011, 02:11:01 PM
True, but cold.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: olliemedsy on September 25, 2011, 02:26:31 PM
another day is track 2 of its album
innocence faded is track 3 of its album
and hollow years is track 4 off its album

so the track numbers increase by 1
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: hacko on September 25, 2011, 02:30:23 PM
ALMOST there.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on September 25, 2011, 02:34:34 PM
They're all the first ballads on their respective album?

EDIT: Actually no, wouldn't call IF a ballad.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: hacko on September 25, 2011, 02:36:06 PM
ollie was a lot closer
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Metropolis pt.-1 on September 25, 2011, 02:37:44 PM
Hollow years: 4th on Budokan
Another day: 5th on Live at the Marquee
Innocence faded: 6th on Score
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jaffa on September 25, 2011, 02:38:57 PM
Their track numbers match their album numbers in chronological order.  Another Day is track 2 of their second studio album, IF is track 3 of their third studio album, Hollow Years is track 4 of their fourth.

I was going to do this exact one myself, except with A Fortune In Lies instead of Innocence Faded.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: hacko on September 25, 2011, 02:42:04 PM
Jaffa's right!

I originally thought of doing 6DOIT - ITNOG - 8VARIUM  but thought it would either be too easy or too out of left field since technically 6DOIT is track 1 on disc 2 instead of track 6. Think you would've gotten that?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jaffa on September 25, 2011, 02:43:38 PM
Excellent.  Except you stole my idea.   :lol

EDIT: Well, I think I would have.  True, SDOIT would be sort of debatable, but those three albums are notable for having the same number of songs as their album number, so it would have stood out like a sore thumb to me.  I think you made the right choice going with 2-3-4.  Might have taken a while for anybody to get it if I hadn't been planning the exact same thing.  :P

Umm...

Take the Time
Caught in a Web
Breaking All Illusions
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Post by: hacko on September 25, 2011, 02:47:39 PM
Ok once again to test the waters:

All three have the word LIFE on the lyrics.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jaffa on September 25, 2011, 02:49:26 PM
Nope.

Well, yep, but not what I had in mind.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Mbarak on September 25, 2011, 02:51:41 PM
Lyrics credited to more than one band member (TTT credited to Dream Theater)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jaffa on September 25, 2011, 02:53:36 PM
Lyrics credited to more than one band member (TTT credited to Dream Theater)

Mbarak got it.  Very good (or it was just easy, not sure).
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Mbarak on September 25, 2011, 02:58:42 PM
NO, very hard, but I'm just that smart...I think (Edit: I noticed you deleted the last part haha)

Alright, here it goes:

The Spirit Carries On
Speak to Me
The Answer Lies Within
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: senecadawg2 on September 25, 2011, 07:22:38 PM
It seems that this thread has died away. I partially blame Jamesman  :P
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: hacko on September 25, 2011, 07:55:35 PM
Well I just got home so I'm ready to try with this one:

They all have Pink Floyd influences/references ?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Mbarak on September 25, 2011, 10:48:48 PM
I'm not a big Pink Floyd fan so I wouldn't know. Has nothing to do with how they sound.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ddtonfire on September 25, 2011, 10:54:27 PM
No time signature changes.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Mbarak on September 25, 2011, 11:10:14 PM
I think this one is true, but not what I'm going for
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: fibreoptix on September 26, 2011, 08:07:14 AM
They've all been augmented someway for a live DVD?

(Spirit: Ext. intro and gospel choir. Speak: Real drums all the way through. Answer: Score orchestra.)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on September 26, 2011, 08:29:22 AM
NO, very hard, but I'm just that smart...I think (Edit: I noticed you deleted the last part haha)

Alright, here it goes:

The Spirit Carries On
Speak to Me
The Answer Lies Within

All of them were played in the Octavarium tour?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Mbarak on September 26, 2011, 08:33:06 AM
No, it has nothing to do with any live performances.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on September 26, 2011, 08:41:48 AM
No, it has nothing to do with any live performances.

They all end with the Instrumental > Last Chorus > Instrumental Outro pattern?  :lol
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Mbarak on September 26, 2011, 08:55:58 AM
Next thing someone will say they have notes that are on a Dream Theater song  :-X

I'm trying to think of a hint without giving too much out..I'll give it a bit of more time.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: visitor on September 26, 2011, 10:23:09 AM
Next thing someone will say they have notes that are on a Dream Theater song  :-X

I'm trying to think of a hint without giving too much out..I'll give it a bit of more time.

It's been almost 24 hours I think a hint is in order :P

Ill throw something out and say that they are all ballads?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Mbarak on September 26, 2011, 10:27:35 AM
Hmm..alright..think Jordan Rudess
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ddtonfire on September 26, 2011, 10:32:29 AM
Notes on a Dream.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Mbarak on September 26, 2011, 10:33:43 AM
You got it.

And I basically spelled the answer earlier
Next thing someone will say they have notes that are on a Dream Theater song  :-X

I'm trying to think of a hint without giving too much out..I'll give it a bit of more time.

You're up ddtonfire
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ddtonfire on September 26, 2011, 10:35:30 AM
Nice... now I have to come up with one. Give me a little bit people.
::devil::
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: visitor on September 26, 2011, 10:37:02 AM
Next thing someone will say they have notes that are on a Dream Theater song  :-X

I'm trying to think of a hint without giving too much out..I'll give it a bit of more time.

Now I see this was a hint :P
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ddtonfire on September 26, 2011, 10:51:52 AM
Ok, here goes...

Under A Glass Moon
6:00
Raw Dog
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 26, 2011, 10:54:10 AM
Anybody who listens to Raw Dog to remember what it sounds like to find a similarity deserves to win this by default. :lol
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on September 26, 2011, 11:06:04 AM
Anybody who listens to Raw Dog to remember what it sounds like to find a similarity deserves to win this by default. :lol

And what about me who listened to 6:00 to remember what it sounds like to find a similarity? :neverusethis:
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: John94 on September 26, 2011, 11:07:05 AM
They all start with a single instrument?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 26, 2011, 11:08:46 AM
Ugh Raw Dog is such a piece of turd :tdwn
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ddtonfire on September 26, 2011, 11:09:48 AM
They all start with a single instrument?
6:00 is the only one for which this is true. Raw Dog has guitar/drums/bass (maybe lol) and UAGM has guitar/keyboards.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ddtonfire on September 26, 2011, 11:10:05 AM
Hey stop hijacking my tribond with your opinions!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 26, 2011, 11:16:37 AM
Hey stop hijacking my tribond with your opinions!
Sorry! :blush
Its just I can't stand raw dog, but I'll try and answer the puzzle.
Is it that they are your 3 favourite songs?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ddtonfire on September 26, 2011, 11:18:13 AM
Nope, nothing personal.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: visitor on September 26, 2011, 11:24:52 AM
They all start with a single instrument?
6:00 is the only one for which this is true. Raw Dog has guitar/drums/bass (maybe lol) and UAGM has guitar/keyboards.

Hmmm, it sounds like you might not have even heard Raw Dog, so maybe it doesnt have to do with the music :P
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ddtonfire on September 26, 2011, 11:27:14 AM
 :facepalm:

It was a joke about how low JMX is in the mix for Raw Dog.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Mbarak on September 26, 2011, 11:28:35 AM
Each share a word with another DT song

The Glass Prison
6DOIT
War Inside My Head

Yeah I can't listen to the songs now to find anything common musically  :-[
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: visitor on September 26, 2011, 11:29:04 AM
:facepalm:

It was a joke about how low JMX is in the mix for Raw Dog.

Ah, Ok, cant blame a guy for tryin.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ddtonfire on September 26, 2011, 11:30:39 AM
Each share a word with another DT song

The Glass Prison
6DOIT
War Inside My Head

Yeah I can't listen to the songs now to find anything common musically  :-[
Good try, but Raw≠War
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Acideus on September 26, 2011, 11:35:22 AM
Ok, here goes...

Under A Glass Moon
6:00
Raw Dog

They all end suddenly?
I love Raw Dog by the way.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 26, 2011, 11:37:09 AM
I wouldn't have really said the endings are sudden, they seem to be well structured endings. If they are sudden then so is most of DTs catalogue
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on September 26, 2011, 11:38:08 AM
Ok, here goes...

Under A Glass Moon
6:00
Raw Dog

They all end suddenly?
I love Raw Dog by the way.

I was thinking the same...

They all had silly working titles? (The Battle Of Jimmy Cocoa and Fishface, Beachhouse Reality and Raw Dog)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ddtonfire on September 26, 2011, 11:38:40 AM
Nope
and nope... but nice find!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: fibreoptix on September 26, 2011, 11:47:45 AM
They all have a solo spanning over multiple segments of music? This is a guess based on NOT going back and listening. :coolio
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Mbarak on September 26, 2011, 11:53:02 AM
Wow, people can't get themselves to listen to Raw Dog even to answer the question :facepalm:
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ddtonfire on September 26, 2011, 12:00:18 PM
They all have a solo spanning over multiple segments of music? This is a guess based on NOT going back and listening. :coolio
Not what I was thinking of!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 26, 2011, 12:03:36 PM
Wow, people can't get themselves to listen to Raw Dog even to answer the question :facepalm:

I listened to it. Not that bad, actually. Still couldn't figure out anything from it though. :(
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Mbarak on September 26, 2011, 12:10:29 PM
Wow, people can't get themselves to listen to Raw Dog even to answer the question :facepalm:

I listened to it. Not that bad, actually. Still couldn't figure out anything from it though. :(
I was joking, i actually like it.

But since you are already here Blob, when are we going to see the new DT animations on your website? The snippits I saw from crappy youtube videos looked really good!

Temporary thread hijack, sorry
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Mbarak on September 26, 2011, 02:31:09 PM
Really hard to find specific things in common between these songs

Drums of each song end with some double bass work?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 26, 2011, 02:33:40 PM
Are they all in the same key?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ddtonfire on September 26, 2011, 02:39:30 PM
Not what I was thinking of, and nope. I'll give a hint later this evening if it isn't figured out by then.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 26, 2011, 02:53:29 PM
Ok so this probably applies to most DT songs and I'm probably clutching at straws but is it to do with time signatures? What I was thinking of was that in both 6:00 and UAGM there are repeated sections that are in 4/4 (I think) for the most part, but the end of the passage is in a different time sig
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Basekick on September 26, 2011, 03:23:07 PM
Ok, here goes...

Under A Glass Moon
6:00
Raw Dog

I think I might have it.  All 3 songs share the same intro and outro.  Well, you need to count the "I know all about the honor of God Mary Jane" of 6:00 as the beginning, but that's the best I got.  UAGM and Raw Dog certainly do this.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ddtonfire on September 26, 2011, 03:47:04 PM
Nope and nope.

Hint: one is a red herring.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheSoylentMan on September 26, 2011, 03:55:39 PM
The number 6.

6:00 (obvious)
UAGM = track 6
Raw Dog = 6 letters
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Basekick on September 26, 2011, 04:15:09 PM
Nope and nope.

Hint: one is a red herring.

A red herring?  How could that be?  Are you saying that two link together and the other is not connected and simply leads us off the trail (i.e. a red herring)?  Wouldn't that go against the rules?

Or maybe one has to do with Scooby Doo or a Fish...
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ddtonfire on September 26, 2011, 04:17:59 PM
The number 6.

6:00 (obvious)
UAGM = track 6
Raw Dog = 6 letters

Cool find, but nope!

And no rules are being broken, they all still have this in common...
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ddtonfire on September 26, 2011, 08:29:16 PM
Alright, hint two:

It has to do with a lack of something.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: snapple on September 26, 2011, 08:34:37 PM
They don't contain a definite article?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ddtonfire on September 26, 2011, 09:17:00 PM
Haha, but nope.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Fiery Winds on September 26, 2011, 09:28:11 PM
None feature lyrics by Mike Portnoy?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ddtonfire on September 26, 2011, 09:40:30 PM
True, but you could say the same thing about JMX or JLB, so not what I was thinking.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Fiery Winds on September 26, 2011, 09:56:39 PM
Do you need to listen to the song to get it?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Metrovarium on September 26, 2011, 10:00:49 PM
I'm pretty sure none of them have backing vocals. If that's the case, then Raw Dog would be a red herring, since it has no vocals at all.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: visitor on September 26, 2011, 10:13:35 PM
OMG are we still on this one??
I think there should be a time limit before pertinent information should be divulged.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ddtonfire on September 27, 2011, 02:59:05 AM
I'm pretty sure none of them have backing vocals. If that's the case, then Raw Dog would be a red herring, since it has no vocals at all.

Ding ding ding ding! Winner!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Metrovarium on September 27, 2011, 04:45:25 AM
Okay, here's mine. I don't think it's too hard, but it's not obvious either.

Pull Me Under
Bombay Vindaloo
Goodnight Kiss
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 27, 2011, 04:53:14 AM
They're all in the tonality/key of E? (that's only partial at best anyway)

I don't know Bombay Vindaloo at all, so I'm basing that on the first 3 seconds that I've actually heard. :lol
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on September 27, 2011, 04:54:04 AM
None have a true 'outro'. Pull Me Under cuts off, Bombay Vindaloo is sortof improvised and Goodnight Kiss segues straight into Solitary Shell.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Metrovarium on September 27, 2011, 09:19:19 AM
Nope to both.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 27, 2011, 09:38:14 AM
Erm all three have been included on a live album?I dont know enough about Bombay Vindaloo to say much more
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: serrano on September 27, 2011, 09:55:13 AM
They all start with clean guitar sound?
 EDIT: :facepalm: forget it
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Mbarak on September 27, 2011, 11:00:03 AM
Each song title includes a letter in double form (ll, oo, both oo and ss for GK)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: John94 on September 27, 2011, 11:12:42 AM
I was gunna say that! Well, I was looking for double vowels when I saw the oo.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Metrovarium on September 27, 2011, 01:06:13 PM
Erm all three have been included on a live album?I dont know enough about Bombay Vindaloo to say much more
Close, but not exactly.

Each song title includes a letter in double form (ll, oo, both oo and ss for GK)
I didn't notice this at all. That's actually better than what I'm thinking of  :lol
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: snapple on September 27, 2011, 01:07:55 PM
All three have been played after A Fortune in Lies?  ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 27, 2011, 01:12:40 PM
All three have been played live straight after a song from When Dream and Day unite
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Metrovarium on September 27, 2011, 01:13:51 PM
All three have been played live straight after a song from When Dream and Day unite
Yep!  :tup
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 27, 2011, 01:15:48 PM
Sweet! ;D

Constant Motion
Pull Me Under
Panic Attack
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: snapple on September 27, 2011, 01:16:18 PM
They're all on RB/GH
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 27, 2011, 01:17:25 PM
They're all on RB/GH
Well that didn't take long! :tup
I'll have to make it harder next time
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: snapple on September 27, 2011, 01:20:25 PM
Lie
Repentance
The Mirror
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 27, 2011, 01:22:39 PM
All have spoken word samples in them?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: snapple on September 27, 2011, 01:24:14 PM
All have spoken word samples in them?

Nope
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ddtonfire on September 27, 2011, 01:24:22 PM
All played on 7-strings?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: snapple on September 27, 2011, 01:24:45 PM
All played on 7-strings?

Nope
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: John94 on September 27, 2011, 01:54:05 PM
They all reprise certain songs?

Mirror SDV
Lie Mirror
Repentance This Dying Soul
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: snapple on September 27, 2011, 01:55:26 PM
They all reprise certain songs?

Mirror SDV
Lie Mirror
Repentance This Dying Soul

Very cool about SDV, but no.

This one is kind of tough (I thought)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: John94 on September 27, 2011, 01:58:12 PM
Damn, thought it was that!

How about they all refer to mirrors/The Mirror.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Metrovarium on September 27, 2011, 01:58:41 PM
When is SDV reprised in the Mirror?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: snapple on September 27, 2011, 01:59:18 PM
Damn, thought it was that!

How about they all refer to mirrors/The Mirror.

Nope.

A few more guesses and I'll give a hint
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jaffa on September 27, 2011, 02:02:14 PM
When is SDV reprised in the Mirror?

5:16.  Sound familiar? 
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Metrovarium on September 27, 2011, 03:12:00 PM
When is SDV reprised in the Mirror?

5:16.  Sound familiar?
I'm not sure how I didn't notice that.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Freko on September 27, 2011, 04:19:49 PM
They have Trust/Trusting in the lyrics!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jaffa on September 27, 2011, 05:09:05 PM
When is SDV reprised in the Mirror?

5:16.  Sound familiar?
I'm not sure how I didn't notice that.  :facepalm:

No worries.  =D  I actually didn't catch it myself until someone pointed it out to me, so.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: snapple on September 27, 2011, 09:34:29 PM
They have Trust/Trusting in the lyrics!

Nope.

Hint: owning the making of Systematic Chaos and Live in Tokyo will help
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: fibreoptix on September 27, 2011, 11:05:43 PM
Puppies on Acid... Kittens on Crack.. Fisheye!

They all reference animals in their working titles.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Zook on September 27, 2011, 11:27:29 PM
Clever girl.

If that's not the right answer, he should win anyway.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: snapple on September 28, 2011, 06:34:13 AM
Puppies on Acid... Kittens on Crack.. Fisheye!

They all reference animals in their working titles.

My hint was too good! Correct!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: fibreoptix on September 28, 2011, 06:37:35 AM
Alright, popping up town for an hour or two... I'll have a think and post one later today. :)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: John94 on September 28, 2011, 08:18:51 AM
Make it one that I can get! I have already though of a couple I can ask, which I hope aren't too easy!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: fibreoptix on September 28, 2011, 08:26:17 AM
OK, let's see how this one goes.

Peruvian Skies
Surrounded
Octavarium
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 28, 2011, 09:18:26 AM
Introductions all start with just one instrument
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: fibreoptix on September 28, 2011, 09:18:55 AM
Nope.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 28, 2011, 09:28:01 AM
Well this is a little vague, but all three songs have distinctively different sounding sections
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 28, 2011, 09:32:38 AM
If it was just the first two, I'd say they've both been played live with sections of another band's song stuck in, but I don't think they've ever done that for Octavarium.

The only other thing I can think of is that they all have a female character in them. :lol
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Fiery Winds on September 28, 2011, 09:39:47 AM
If it was just the first two, I'd say they've both been played live with sections of another band's song stuck in, but I don't think they've ever done that for Octavarium.

The only other thing I can think of is that they all have a female character in them. :lol

Unless you count Jingle Bells.   ;)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Mbarak on September 28, 2011, 10:19:56 AM
Not really in common, but each song was recorded by one of DT keyboardists.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on September 28, 2011, 10:28:04 AM
OK, let's see how this one goes.

Peruvian Skies
Surrounded
Octavarium

Each song was played live in at least one tour with an extended intro played by Jordan Rudess  on one of his side instruments (Lap Steel Guitar for PS in 2005/2006, Continuum for Octa in the same years  and Memotron - was it called that way? - for Surrounded in 2007).
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: John94 on September 28, 2011, 10:38:32 AM
They all incorporate Pink Floyd references or have done in live performances?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: fibreoptix on September 28, 2011, 12:21:26 PM
If it was just the first two, I'd say they've both been played live with sections of another band's song stuck in, but I don't think they've ever done that for Octavarium.

The only other thing I can think of is that they all have a female character in them. :lol

Unless you count Jingle Bells.   ;)

Well, shit. What do I do? I was gonna drop a hint later on highlighting Octavarium as somewhat of a red herring, but you've both somehow gotten the answer right between you. :lol
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 28, 2011, 12:23:54 PM
I'm fine with a fight to the death. I either win, or I die with honour, so it's really a win-win.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on September 28, 2011, 12:57:47 PM
If it was just the first two, I'd say they've both been played live with sections of another band's song stuck in, but I don't think they've ever done that for Octavarium.

The only other thing I can think of is that they all have a female character in them. :lol

Unless you count Jingle Bells.   ;)


Well, shit. What do I do? I was gonna drop a hint later on highlighting Octavarium as somewhat of a red herring, but you've both somehow gotten the answer right between you. :lol

Mh, the three of them are somehow inspired by or dedicated to other people?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Fiery Winds on September 28, 2011, 01:55:03 PM
I'm fine with a fight to the death. I either win, or I die with honour, so it's really a win-win.

 :yarr
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: fibreoptix on September 28, 2011, 02:02:50 PM
So who wants it? Everything's up for grabs!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Fiery Winds on September 28, 2011, 02:17:53 PM
I'll post one that shouldn't take too long and is bending the rules at only two songs.

Solitary Shell
Octavarium
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on September 28, 2011, 02:21:50 PM
I'll post one that shouldn't take too long and is bending the rules at only two songs.

Solitary Shell
Octavarium

Mh, the "characters" are lost inside some metaphorical oppressive reality? ("lost within himself in a solitary shell" and "trapped inside this Octavarium")
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on September 28, 2011, 02:25:11 PM
Both feature single-voiced keyboard solos.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Fiery Winds on September 28, 2011, 02:26:26 PM
Nope and nope.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ddtonfire on September 28, 2011, 02:36:33 PM
12-string guitars.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on September 28, 2011, 02:37:50 PM
Nope and nope.

It has to do with the music itself? Or is it a live thing?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Fiery Winds on September 28, 2011, 02:45:45 PM
Something within the song.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Mbarak on September 28, 2011, 03:08:35 PM
They both have similar endings, maybe even the same note (from memory, can't listen to the songs now)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Fiery Winds on September 28, 2011, 03:09:55 PM
Not what I'm looking for.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on September 28, 2011, 03:15:20 PM
They both use the word "catatonic".
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Fiery Winds on September 28, 2011, 03:22:10 PM
They both use the word "catatonic".

Correct!!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on September 28, 2011, 03:33:13 PM
Yay! :biggrin: Alright, mine:

Under a Glass Moon
Metropolis Part 1
Learning To Live

This one is a little challenging. And no, it's not that they're all on I&W.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 28, 2011, 03:37:28 PM
they all begin with keyboards
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on September 28, 2011, 03:39:58 PM
Nope.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on September 28, 2011, 03:42:09 PM
Yay! :biggrin: Alright, mine:

Under a Glass Moon
Metropolis Part 1
Learning To Live

This one is a little challenging. And no, it's not that they're all on I&W.

All of them were written before JLB joined the band.

All of them were played at his first gig with DT.

All of them were both used as show opener and as encores.

All of them featured live one (or more)  F#5 by JLB.

None of the above.




EDIT:

All of them were part of medleys. (When IAW Unite, Encore Medley, 1998 Medley)

All of them have a bass spot.


Ok, maybe I'm trying too hard  :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on September 28, 2011, 03:45:59 PM
Yay! :biggrin: Alright, mine:

Under a Glass Moon
Metropolis Part 1
Learning To Live

This one is a little challenging. And no, it's not that they're all on I&W.

All of them featured live one (or more)  F#5 by JLB.

This was the right answer. Damn, was hoping it'd last longer. :lol
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on September 28, 2011, 03:59:08 PM

This was the right answer. Damn, was hoping it'd last longer. :lol

Ahaha, not when the biggest fan of James's extreme range is around  :tup


So, since I've been trying to get this spot forever, I've come up with as much as seven triads. I'll post all of them but two, which are probably too easy.

The first who gets one right wins and the game will carry on. So, basically, you only have five times more chances to get the spot, no tricks. It's a bargain!  :lol



Pull Me Under
Gangland (IM cover)
The Silent Man




The Killing Hand
Ouctry
New Millennium




A Vision
Overture 1928
The Best Of Times




Disappear
Prophets Of War
Scarred




You Not Me
Disappear
Hell's Kitchen
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on September 28, 2011, 04:06:19 PM
I can't even figure out one of them  :lol
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 28, 2011, 10:41:45 PM
You Not Me
Disappear
Hell's Kitchen

Is it to do with the number of times they've been played live? (ok, just realized we have a working list here, and I'm wrong on that one thanks to Hell's Kitchen)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 29, 2011, 01:30:33 AM
I just noticed that DTF's tourography counts Burning My Soul '96 for Hell's Kitchen, which I wouldn't, and don't. And MP's tourography isn't even usable at all right now, so I can't use that to check how many times it's been played. So how many times has *Hell's Kitchen* been played live? I think that might work for all 3 songs having not been played many times live.

You Not Me - 3 times
Disappear - 2 times
Hell's Kitchen - ??? profit?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on September 29, 2011, 01:57:56 AM
I just noticed that DTF's tourography counts Burning My Soul '96 for Hell's Kitchen, which I wouldn't, and don't. And MP's tourography isn't even usable at all right now, so I can't use that to check how many times it's been played. So how many times has *Hell's Kitchen* been played live? I think that might work for all 3 songs having not been played many times live.

You Not Me - 3 times
Disappear - 2 times
Hell's Kitchen - ??? profit?

Ok, the answer is basically this one. I wrongfully assumed YNM had only been played twice, it seems that I missed one in my count... As far as I'm aware Hell's Kitchen  was only played in some December 98 shows. So, maybe three times.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 29, 2011, 02:57:13 AM
Does this mean I can come up with one now?  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on September 29, 2011, 03:05:12 AM
Does this mean I can come up with one now?  :biggrin:

If you're asking my permission I would say "no" since you cracked the simplest (and less intriguing) of them all. But rules are rules, aren't they?  :smiley:
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Mbarak on September 29, 2011, 10:32:37 AM
Soooo..are we supposed to answer another one of wasteland's questions or should BVD provide a new question?

I personally prefer the latter to get the ball rolling.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 29, 2011, 10:37:24 AM
I vote for the latter. I got one fair and square! :lol
I already have one ready to go too.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Mbarak on September 29, 2011, 10:56:09 AM
Ok I'm a little scared now. I hope I don't regret my vote.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 29, 2011, 11:03:51 AM
Yup I think we give BVD the turn, he got one right
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 29, 2011, 11:11:04 AM
Ok, I think it's fair for me to post one. If wasteland thought the one I guessed was too easy, then he shouldn't have posted it. :biggrin:


Here we go (might be easy, might be hard. No idea)-

A Fortune in Lies
The Dark Eternal Night
Trial of Tears
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 29, 2011, 11:15:44 AM
Studio versions of each song have different keyboard players

EDIT: Thats not a similarity, its a difference, silly me  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Mbarak on September 29, 2011, 11:45:45 AM
Ok, I think it's fair for me to post one. If wasteland thought the one I guessed was too easy, then he shouldn't have posted it. :biggrin:


Here we go (might be easy, might be hard. No idea)-

A Fortune in Lies
The Dark Eternal Night
Trial of Tears

They include all former members of DT: CD, KM, DS and MP
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 29, 2011, 11:48:17 AM
Ok, I think it's fair for me to post one. If wasteland thought the one I guessed was too easy, then he shouldn't have posted it. :biggrin:


Here we go (might be easy, might be hard. No idea)-

A Fortune in Lies
The Dark Eternal Night
Trial of Tears

They include all former members of DT: CD, KM, DS and MP

Nope. Although since MP counts now, this could apply to every tribond of songs pre-ADTOE. :lol
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jaffa on September 29, 2011, 12:46:59 PM
Ok, I think it's fair for me to post one. If wasteland thought the one I guessed was too easy, then he shouldn't have posted it. :biggrin:


Here we go (might be easy, might be hard. No idea)-

A Fortune in Lies
The Dark Eternal Night
Trial of Tears

They include all former members of DT: CD, KM, DS and MP

Nope. Although since MP counts now, this could apply to every tribond of songs pre-ADTOE. :lol

Every pre-ADTOE trio of songs would include at least ONE former DT member, but your trio includes ALL former DT members.  That's what Mbarak meant (I think).

As for the Tribond, I have no clue whatsoever.   :lol
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: energythief on September 30, 2011, 08:00:40 AM
Can we get a clue?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 30, 2011, 08:11:25 AM
There have only been 2 guesses. Do you need a clue yet?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: energythief on September 30, 2011, 08:48:53 AM
There have only been 2 guesses. Do you need a clue yet?


Well... maybe not.  :yeahright
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: jfwund on September 30, 2011, 08:50:21 AM
Does it have something to do with the fact that (lyrically) all 3 reference being trapped in a dream?


TDEN: "Trapped in a hellish dream/Spinning through worlds unseen"
AFIL: "What kind of imagination/Asleep in some lyrical coma"
ToT: "I'll dream with them one day"


Granted, ToT seems to be more about the inability to sleep and so being trapped in a waking dream...
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 30, 2011, 09:41:22 AM
Does it have something to do with the fact that (lyrically) all 3 reference being trapped in a dream?

No, although it's a crafty guess. :)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on September 30, 2011, 01:58:35 PM
I think now might be time for a clue :P
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jaffa on September 30, 2011, 01:59:17 PM
There have only been 2 guesses. Do you need a clue yet?

We shouldn't, but it looks like we do.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 01, 2011, 12:41:11 AM
Ok, I guess the first clue to narrow it down a bit-

It is a similarity you can get by just listening to the studio songs. It has nothing to do with the songs live, or any other obscure bit of trivia.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: namgalsipsclar on October 01, 2011, 03:10:56 AM
I think Ive asked this for pretty much every one, but are they all in the same key?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Jaffa on October 07, 2011, 03:17:10 PM
I know this was dead, but I'm still really curious about Blob's.  :(
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Pols Voice on October 13, 2011, 01:21:18 AM
So, we never got the answer for this.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on October 13, 2011, 07:08:38 AM
Pity. Let's resurrect this thread.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on October 13, 2011, 07:45:41 AM
I once posted these, you may try to crack one of them if you like  :)

****
Pull Me Under
Gangland (IM cover)
The Silent Man

****
Disappear
Prophets Of War
Scarred

****
Beneath The Surface
The Silent Man
Hollow Years

****
Only A Matter Of Time
Scarred
Learning To Live

Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 13, 2011, 07:53:50 AM
Or, you know, people could actually take a guess at the current one. :lol
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on October 13, 2011, 08:16:09 AM
To Blob's:

All songs finish with a solo in the last minute?

AFIL has the guitar solo
TDEN has the keyboard solo
TOT has the bass solo
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 13, 2011, 08:18:45 AM
To Blob's:

All songs finish with a solo in the last minute?

AFIL has the guitar solo
TDEN has the keyboard solo
TOT has the bass solo

No, although it is a musical similarity that connects them, so you're getting on the right track.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on October 13, 2011, 08:24:41 AM
Or, you know, people could actually take a guess at the current one. :lol

You disappeared! (down the cellar stairs or into the darkness, you choose)

And before that you refused to give any hint! Now that the future life of this thread is jeopardized you should lay down your pride and give us some spoiling help!  :rollin
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 13, 2011, 08:34:56 AM
Or, you know, people could actually take a guess at the current one. :lol

You disappeared! (down the cellar stairs or into the darkness, you choose)

And before that you refused to give any hint! Now that the future life of this thread is jeopardized you should lay down your pride and give us some spoiling help!  :rollin

I'm a stubborn man who doesn't give it up easily (hints, I mean).
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Pols Voice on April 09, 2013, 05:05:21 AM
18 months later, and we still never figured out Blob's.

Anybody want to start this game up again?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 09, 2013, 05:46:12 AM
Did I kill the game? I'm sorry!

I think the common thread was that they all used bass chords. Too musical?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: puppyonacid on April 09, 2013, 06:02:29 AM
I got one while ya wait..........if you wanna give it a go

Learning to Live
Solitary Shell
Silent Man
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Scorpion on April 09, 2013, 06:03:35 AM
They all feature acoustic guitar solos?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: puppyonacid on April 09, 2013, 06:15:56 AM
That's a bingo!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Scorpion on April 09, 2013, 06:21:21 AM
Sweet! Mine:

Metropolis
The Great Debate
Disappear
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: puppyonacid on April 09, 2013, 06:21:40 AM


Metropolis
The Great Debate
Disappear



is it something to do with the musical arrangement? I know Metropolis and the Great debate end on a D chord. Not sure about Disappear. haven't listened to that track for a long time.

Am anywhere near the right ballpark?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Scorpion on April 09, 2013, 06:24:31 AM
Nope. Though, to be correct, it would have to be written like this:

Metropolis, Pt. 1: The Miracle and the Sleeper
The Great Debate
Disappear
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on April 09, 2013, 06:25:29 AM
Nope. Though, to be correct, it would have to be written like this:

Metropolis, Pt. 1: The Miracle and the Sleeper
The Great Debate
Disappear

There's 2 A's in each song's name.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on April 09, 2013, 06:45:32 AM
Nope. Though, to be correct, it would have to be written like this:

Metropolis, Pt. 1: The Miracle and the Sleeper
The Great Debate
Disappear

There's 2 A's in each song's name.

Oh, those shouldn't be allowed :D
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on April 09, 2013, 08:21:31 AM
This is an awesome game.  :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on April 09, 2013, 08:25:29 AM
Nope. Though, to be correct, it would have to be written like this:

Metropolis, Pt. 1: The Miracle and the Sleeper
The Great Debate
Disappear

There's 2 A's in each song's name.

Oh, those shouldn't be allowed :D

I don't care, if it's right it will be my turn now :biggrin:
But yeah, it would be slightly lame, though I could gave come up with something similar.

Cone on, Scorp, confirm it! I have mine ready! :)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Scorpion on April 09, 2013, 08:25:43 AM
Nope. Though, to be correct, it would have to be written like this:

Metropolis, Pt. 1: The Miracle and the Sleeper
The Great Debate
Disappear

There's 2 A's in each song's name.

Yes. :tup
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on April 09, 2013, 08:28:27 AM
Good luck with this one, it's far-fetched and requires some random knowledge of DT history:

Finally Free
Metropolis Pt. 1
Learning to Live

(In that order)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on April 09, 2013, 08:42:40 AM
Good luck with this one, it's far-fetched and requires some random knowledge of DT history:

Finally Free
Metropolis Pt. 1
Learning to Live

(In that order)

All have an added section when played live at Lsfny and they are played in that order, but with songs in between mtpls and ltl
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on April 09, 2013, 09:02:47 AM
Good luck with this one, it's far-fetched and requires some random knowledge of DT history:

Finally Free
Metropolis Pt. 1
Learning to Live

(In that order)

All have an added section when played live at Lsfny and they are played in that order, but with songs in between mtpls and ltl

I was about to say the same! The three of them had more or less improvised sections live! (not just in LSFNY, but also there)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on April 09, 2013, 09:08:16 AM
Good catch! But not exactly what I was looking for. You have the year right though (2000).
Go get 'm!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on April 09, 2013, 09:09:29 AM

I was about to say the same! The three of them had more or less improvised sections live! (not just in LSFNY, but also there)

Here's Wasteland again getting my idea after I've already had it... JUST KIDDING :lol
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on April 09, 2013, 09:11:44 AM
All three were used to close the main set that year I think
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on April 09, 2013, 09:15:27 AM
All three were used to close the main set that year I think

I wa checking the same thing, but I am unsure that FF was ever used as such regularly. AFAIK, it happened only in the reaharsal show for LSFNY: https://www.mikeportnoy.com/dates/tourography/?show=573
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on April 09, 2013, 09:37:52 AM
the entire first half of the year 2000
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on April 09, 2013, 09:53:47 AM
the entire first half of the year 2000

Ah, yeah... I never collected those shows... I just don't like that leg.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on April 09, 2013, 10:04:08 AM
All three were used to close the main set that year I think

Almost, just a bit more specific.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on April 09, 2013, 01:31:38 PM
Learning to Live, Metropolis Part 1 (In a medley with PMU, but it ended the medley), and Finally Free were the three songs used to end the main set at the shows in 2000. FF for the first part of the year, M in the middle, LTL for the last part of the year.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on April 09, 2013, 03:15:16 PM
Learning to Live, Metropolis Part 1 (In a medley with PMU, but it ended the medley), and Finally Free were the three songs used to end the main set at the shows in 2000. FF for the first part of the year, M in the middle, LTL for the last part of the year.

Yes, that's absolutely correct. Now be more specific on the time, location and show, because these three songs have something else in common. Good luck, you're almost there; the 'main set closer' thing is definitely correct and part of it, even the Pull Me Under/Metropolis Pt. 1 medley thing. I'm just saying this, because it wasn't like this at every show. You're on the right track with FF being in the first part of the year, Metropolis in the middle and LTL at the end though.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on April 09, 2013, 04:11:02 PM
lol it gets more specific  :omg: ok well looking at the setlists again, I notice when FF was the main set closer, the other two were not in the set, then PMU/M became the set closer and the other two weren't in the set. Then there were a few shows, the exceptions you're talking about, where PMU/M became the encore, at which point all of SFAM was brought back (including FF of course). Then, when LTL became the set closer, M1 became the set opener. Then it went back and forth a couple times and theres no real pattern.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on April 09, 2013, 04:18:10 PM
and I think the LSFNY show was the only one where all three were played
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on April 09, 2013, 04:23:09 PM
Forget it, you're up next, you've done enough :P

The thing was; all three were main set closers of the LAST show of a European leg of the 2000 tour.

Finally Free was the main set closer of the last show of the first leg (4/20/2000, Lisbon, Portugal)
(Pull Me Under/)Metropolis Pt. 1 was the main set closer of the last show of the second leg (7/23/2000, Oviedo, Spain)
Learning to Live was the main set closer of the last show of the third leg (10/21/2000, London, England)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on April 09, 2013, 04:28:48 PM
Ooohh haha!!

OK awesome-

Dissapear
Under a Glass Moon
Stream of Consciousness
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: puppyonacid on April 10, 2013, 02:09:59 AM
Is it that they are all penultimate tracks on their respective albums?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on April 10, 2013, 05:44:55 AM
All three have been featured on only ONE (official) live album.

Disappear and Stream of Consciousness on Live at Budokan and Under a Glass Moon on Score.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: puppyonacid on April 10, 2013, 06:13:27 AM
Darn it. I had forgot about Wait for Sleep.

-1 fan point.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on April 10, 2013, 08:07:02 AM
Is it that they are all penultimate tracks on their respective albums?

What does penultimate mean? :-\ second to last? No.

All three have been featured on only ONE (official) live album.

Disappear and Stream of Consciousness on Live at Budokan and Under a Glass Moon on Score.

What about uagm on Tokyo?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on April 10, 2013, 08:13:28 AM
All three have been featured on only ONE (official) live album.

Disappear and Stream of Consciousness on Live at Budokan and Under a Glass Moon on Score.

What about uagm on Tokyo?


That was never released on CD, the others were (hence I said 'album').
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on April 10, 2013, 08:25:31 AM
Oh I always thought a live DVD was a live album. But anyway, no that's not what I was thinking of.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on April 10, 2013, 09:01:06 AM
I once posted these, you may try to crack one of them if you like  :)

****
Pull Me Under
Gangland (IM cover)
Silent man

If it's ok, I'd like to guess at this since it was never answered. Is it that in the very last line of the song, there is a large vocal jump when done live? "only until your will is DDDOOOONNNNEE *F5*" , " there lies the silent man" back to the regular octave in the version where he sings an octave higher for the rest of that chorus, and aren't the last couple words of gangland just screamed?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 10, 2013, 05:18:29 PM
Ooohh haha!!

OK awesome-

Dissapear
Under a Glass Moon
Stream of Consciousness

They have circus sounds in them...UAGM on Score, don't really know about SoC.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Knguro on April 10, 2013, 07:45:40 PM
This game was funny when it was easy, but nooooo you had get smart.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on April 10, 2013, 07:59:47 PM
This one is really not that hard!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 10, 2013, 09:00:29 PM
Oh....all of them have "ss" in their name.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on April 10, 2013, 09:16:56 PM
Oh....all of them have "ss" in their name.

actually no  :o thats not what I was thinking
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Pols Voice on April 10, 2013, 10:20:14 PM
And Disappear doesn't have an "ss." ;)

Grasping at straws here, but I was thinking that all three have something to do with the mind or thought. UAGM and Disappear mention memories, and then there's Stream of Consciousness. Eh...I tried.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on April 10, 2013, 10:44:04 PM
Ok here's a small hint-

Lost Not Forgotten and Wither would also fit the group

And Disappear doesn't have an "ss." ;)

haha woops that was silly
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Pols Voice on April 10, 2013, 10:55:26 PM
There are no drums in the intros? Which is true for tons of DT songs, but hey.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on April 10, 2013, 11:08:49 PM
And Honor Thy Father would also fit nicely into this group. so no on the no drums thing.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Pols Voice on April 10, 2013, 11:18:53 PM
They all contain the letter R in their titles?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: puppyonacid on April 11, 2013, 06:03:19 AM
Is it something to do with the bass guitar arrangements?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on April 11, 2013, 06:28:32 AM
All songs start with just one instrument playing, before the rest of the band joins in.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Pols Voice on April 11, 2013, 06:45:28 AM
All songs start with just one instrument playing, before the rest of the band joins in.

UAGM has guitar and keyboard.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on April 11, 2013, 09:48:13 AM
Oh, yes.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wolfking on April 11, 2013, 04:36:14 PM
I was going to say they are all in different keys, but Disappear and LNF are in the same key (D).
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: GasparXR on April 11, 2013, 06:21:03 PM
All titles have an odd number of words?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Pols Voice on April 11, 2013, 10:06:20 PM
6degrmatichaosonaxmasmorngabbagabbahey, help us! We're confused and frightened!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on April 11, 2013, 11:31:32 PM
6degrmatichaosonaxmasmorngabbagabbahey, help us! We're confused and frightened!

Hahaha ok I honestly didn't intend for it to be this hard! It does not have to do with the letters or words. Think more along the lines of what UAGM and LNF (which are on this list) have in common.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: puppyonacid on April 12, 2013, 04:45:09 AM
I've got it I've got it I've got it!!!!!!  :biggrin:

All those songs have the exact same title but are spelt and pronounced differently!!!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wolfking on April 12, 2013, 04:51:41 AM
6degrmatichaosonaxmasmorngabbagabbahey, help us! We're confused and frightened!

Hahaha ok I honestly didn't intend for it to be this hard! It does not have to do with the letters or words. Think more along the lines of what UAGM and LNF (which are on this list) have in common.

Octaves?
Odd time signatures?
Awesome guitar solos?
Great vocals?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Pols Voice on April 12, 2013, 06:09:22 AM
Each song generally begins and ends with the same musical theme? Maybe not Honor Thy Father...

I've got it I've got it I've got it!!!!!!  :biggrin:

All those songs have the exact same title but are spelt and pronounced differently!!!

Burns: I wonder if this Homer Nixon is any relation.
Smithers: Unlikely, sir. They spell and pronounce their names differently. 

:D
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on April 12, 2013, 06:19:14 AM
I've got it I've got it I've got it!!!!!!  :biggrin:

All those songs have the exact same title but are spelt and pronounced differently!!!

What?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Octavaripolis on April 12, 2013, 06:21:01 AM
Each song generally begins and ends with the same musical theme? Maybe not Honor Thy Father...

I just thought of this... I bet this it! :)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on April 12, 2013, 08:12:56 AM
Each song generally begins and ends with the same musical theme? Maybe not Honor Thy Father...

Not just generally the same theme but the exact same riff starts and ends every one of these songs!! Listen to the first 30-60 sec and then the last 15-45 sec for each of these songs!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Pols Voice on April 12, 2013, 08:16:00 AM
Each song generally begins and ends with the same musical theme? Maybe not Honor Thy Father...

Not just generally the same theme but the exact same riff starts and ends every one of these songs!! Listen to the first 30-60 sec and then the last 15-45 sec for each of these songs!

Okay! I'm not going to argue with you, but some of those technically aren't exact. Did I win? :P
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on April 12, 2013, 08:22:17 AM
Each song generally begins and ends with the same musical theme? Maybe not Honor Thy Father...

Not just generally the same theme but the exact same riff starts and ends every one of these songs!! Listen to the first 30-60 sec and then the last 15-45 sec for each of these songs!

Okay! I'm not going to argue with you, but some of those technically aren't exact. Did I win? :P

And I'm not gonna argue with you, but yes they are heehee  :lol Yes, make like an authorized official $20 Dream Theater hat and go on a head.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Pols Voice on April 12, 2013, 08:26:45 AM
Alright, here we go:

Trial of Tears
Beyond This Life
Endless Sacrifice
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on April 12, 2013, 08:54:08 AM
All in first set of The live at Budokon show? Plus I think they're numbers 3, 7, and 10; and 3+7=10  :lol
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Pols Voice on April 12, 2013, 08:58:11 AM
Not what I'm looking for. :)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on April 12, 2013, 09:21:11 AM
All have three choruses, the first two being before the instrumental and the third one after. The second is longer than the first, and the third has a stronger backbeat than the first two.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Pols Voice on April 12, 2013, 09:30:39 AM
Nope.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 12, 2013, 09:33:49 AM
Each one comes back to the chorus after the instrumental and ends with the main melody.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Pols Voice on April 12, 2013, 09:44:50 AM
It isn't about the choruses.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on April 12, 2013, 09:46:49 AM
They're all longer than 10 minutes :neverusethis:
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: RoeDent on April 12, 2013, 09:47:02 AM
Trial of Tears ends in G# (or is it A-flat?), the beginning key of Beyond this Life

Beyond this Life ends in D, the beginning key of Endless Sacrifice.

Major and minor are kind of ignored in this theory, so this probably isn't the answer at all.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Pols Voice on April 12, 2013, 09:54:43 AM
Trial of Tears ends in G# (or is it A-flat?), the beginning key of Beyond this Life

Beyond this Life ends in D, the beginning key of Endless Sacrifice.

Major and minor are kind of ignored in this theory, so this probably isn't the answer at all.

No, but nice effort!

They're all longer than 10 minutes :neverusethis:

Oh you.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Pols Voice on April 12, 2013, 12:16:05 PM
Some of these guesses were vaguely on the right track. Feel free to keep throwing things out there to see what sticks (I don't want to kill the game :-[).
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: GasparXR on April 12, 2013, 01:35:01 PM
On all three songs, the final chorus is at the very end of the song and are diffrerent from the previous choruses in some way. BTl = heavier, ToT = stronger beat and altered lyrics, ES = only features the second half of the chorus in terms of lyrics (moments wasted...).
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on April 12, 2013, 02:25:34 PM
It isn't about the choruses.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Pols Voice on April 12, 2013, 10:58:57 PM
Just to narrow things down, I will say it has to do with the songs themselves (either music or lyrics), and nothing to do with where they're placed on albums, the titles, or set lists.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on April 13, 2013, 01:33:04 AM
I just noticed this, got really excited, raced online to write this, then remembered you said its not about the choruses. Anyway here it is-

In each song's chorus there is an instance where the vocal melody does the minor scale degrees- 2,3,2,1 at the end of the phrase.

The word "faaaarr" in our deeds have traveled far from btl
The words "new York city" from tot
And "me why" in someone tell me why from es.

 :omg:
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Pols Voice on April 13, 2013, 04:39:10 AM
Some of the guesses are more interesting than the actual answer. Don't overthink it...the solution isn't complex!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on April 13, 2013, 05:18:04 AM
Some obvious stuff:

- all songs have an instrumental section
- all songs have a guitar solo
- all songs have verses with clean guitar and choruses with distorted guitars (yeah, you could argue about Beyond This Life not fitting this scheme)
- all songs feature have their title sung at some point in the song
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Pols Voice on April 13, 2013, 05:49:02 AM
Some obvious stuff:

- all songs have an instrumental section
- all songs have a guitar solo
- all songs have verses with clean guitar and choruses with distorted guitars (yeah, you could argue about Beyond This Life not fitting this scheme)
- all songs feature have their title sung at some point in the song

One of those is definitely on the right track.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 13, 2013, 05:50:24 AM
All of the songs have back to back keyboard/guitar solos? (although not always in that order).
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Scorpion on April 13, 2013, 05:50:52 AM
All have a guitar solo followed by a keyboard solo, in that order?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Pols Voice on April 13, 2013, 06:27:55 AM
I'm trying to think of a hint that won't just give away the answer. :P Let's just narrow it down to this:

- all songs have an instrumental section

Elaborate on this point.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ? on April 13, 2013, 06:43:12 AM
All the instrumental sections include a tempo change? (not sure if ES counts)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on April 13, 2013, 06:52:19 AM
All songs have an isntrumental section that's vastly different from the rest of the song and bring in new musical ideas, rather than building on previous riffs in the song.
I'm doing this without actually listening to the song, so don't hate me if I'm saying something completely wrong here :lol
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on April 13, 2013, 07:07:08 AM
100% wrong, but I'll write this anyway:

Each song has been performed live with the inclusion of a secondary instrument played by a band member in some sections:

- ToT: Kaossilator (CiM era)
- BTL: those little plastic or ceramic things MP played during the duet with JR at Budokan
- ES: Keytar (early ADTOE era)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Pols Voice on April 13, 2013, 07:12:26 AM
All incorrect so far. Yeah, this is proving to be way more difficult than I expected. ;) I don't know what else to say hint-wise...
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ? on April 13, 2013, 07:12:47 AM
I like how all these overanalytic answers have been wrong :lol
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Pols Voice on April 13, 2013, 07:13:58 AM
I like how all these overanalytic answers have been wrong :lol

The answer is kinda simple, really. You guys are too smart for this game!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on April 13, 2013, 07:19:04 AM
Oh my god, I came up with a seriously good one tribond! Would any of the other guys be kind enough to allow me to post it after this one gets sorted out? I promise I will be revealing it the solution within one day if nobody gets it. It's really, really good (and quite hard too :p)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Pols Voice on April 13, 2013, 07:20:45 AM
Oh my god, I came up with a seriously good one tribond! Would any of the other guys be kind enough to allow me to post it after this one gets sorted out? I promise I will be revealing it the solution within one day if nobody gets it. It's really, really good (and quite hard too :p)

Solve mine and you can post yours, no problem. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Pols Voice on April 13, 2013, 08:01:02 AM
One last ultra super hint: think of the entire instrumental sections instead of just parts of them.

If nobody gets it in the next couple hours, I'll post the answer.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on April 13, 2013, 08:06:50 AM
- The instrumental sections in all songs are approximately 5 minutes long (Endless Sacrifice is a bit less)
- They start between 4:00 and 5:00 minutes into the song
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Pols Voice on April 13, 2013, 08:16:21 AM
- The instrumental sections in all songs are approximately 5 minutes long (Endless Sacrifice is a bit less)

Extremely close to the correct answer! None hit 5 minutes, but I'll give it to you since you said approximately.

So, the answer is: the instrumental sections (the times between vocals) are all over 4 minutes.

Your turn, or you can let wasteland go next. :)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on April 13, 2013, 08:19:05 AM
Cool, I'll think of something soon! :)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on April 13, 2013, 08:42:18 AM
Okay, this shouldn't be too hard:

- Metropolis Pt. 1: The Miracle and the Sleeper
- About to Crash (Reprise)
- Pull Me Under
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 13, 2013, 08:43:39 AM
They're all in E?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on April 13, 2013, 08:57:17 AM
Almost (yea they're all in E, but that wasn't exactly what I was looking for).
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: GasparXR on April 13, 2013, 02:32:30 PM
Almost (yea they're all in E, but that wasn't exactly what I was looking for).

All of them begin with an E note?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on April 13, 2013, 03:36:55 PM
Close enough.

The first note of every song is a guitar's open low E string.
Knock yourself out, your turn.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on April 13, 2013, 04:09:02 PM
I should have thought of that! Nice one :tup



Hey wasteland, could you tell me if this is right?
I once posted these, you may try to crack one of them if you like  :)

****
Pull Me Under
Gangland (IM cover)
Silent man

If it's ok, I'd like to guess at this since it was never answered. Is it that in the very last line of the song, there is a large vocal jump when done live? "only until your will is DDDOOOONNNNEE *F5*" , " there lies the silent man" back to the regular octave in the version where he sings an octave higher for the rest of that chorus, and aren't the last couple words of gangland just screamed?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on April 13, 2013, 04:19:41 PM
@6degstuff: no, it's not that! Didn't I give the answer somewhere in this thread?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: MoraWintersoul on April 13, 2013, 04:21:59 PM
Whoa, Marco, what if it was you who killed the thread? :lol
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on April 13, 2013, 04:24:17 PM
Whoa, Marco, what if it was you who killed the thread? :lol

It wouldn't make much difference... just one more to my vast collection of corpses  :lol

I'm pretty sure I gave the answer, anyway! And the unsolved tribond was Blob's not mine!

IT'S ALL ABOUT BLOB...! NOT MEEE!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: GasparXR on April 13, 2013, 04:25:34 PM
:D

One Last Time
The Great Debate
The Ytse Jam
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on April 13, 2013, 04:27:44 PM
I have no absolute nor relative pitch but... do they start with the same chord?  :blush
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: GasparXR on April 13, 2013, 04:29:16 PM
I have no absolute nor relative pitch but... do they start with the same chord?  :blush

Nope. :D TYJ starts with an Em, TGD begins with a riff in Em, and OLT starts with a C#m.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on April 13, 2013, 04:31:29 PM
Ah, I was sure that YJ and TGD started on the same note! Not so much about OLT, though.

*disclaimer* This guy who is is speaking is a complete music illiterate!  :blush
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: GasparXR on April 13, 2013, 04:37:39 PM
Ah, I was sure that YJ and TGD started on the same note! Not so much about OLT, though.

*disclaimer* This guy who is is speaking is a complete music illiterate!  :blush

It was a good guess given that no hints were given. :lol
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on April 13, 2013, 07:34:57 PM
@6degstuff: no, it's not that! Didn't I give the answer somewhere in this thread?

You only gave the answer to one of them I think.


 
One Last Time
The Great Debate
The Ytse Jam

-played on either the bc&sl or adtoe tour, but not for many years prior
-the first lines of these songs do NOT begin with the word "and"
-tgd ends in E, ytse starts in E and ends on a C#, OLT starts on C#. The only thing is that's a different order than you wrote and it woudnt work in your order since OLT ends on a D and tgd starts on an E.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: GasparXR on April 13, 2013, 09:12:51 PM
Nope, those are all true though. The order doesn't matter, that's your first hint. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on April 13, 2013, 09:48:59 PM
They are all something minutes and 40 something seconds long.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Cedar redaC on April 14, 2013, 12:20:35 AM
:D

One Last Time
The Great Debate
The Ytse Jam
They are all 3 word titles?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: GasparXR on April 14, 2013, 12:25:39 AM
I will say that one of those answers is actually pretty close! :o
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on April 14, 2013, 01:09:10 AM
All three word titles with the first being a three-letter word.

edit: a three letter word ending in e that is...

edit II: with the only vowels used between the titles of the three songs being a, e, i, and o
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on April 14, 2013, 01:30:54 AM
or maybe wikipedia is off by one second and TGD also has 46 seconds instead of 45. My mp3 version says 13:46, but right now I can't look at my CD to see which one is correct. Anyway, is it that all their times are something and 46 seconds?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: GasparXR on April 14, 2013, 12:51:29 PM
or maybe wikipedia is off by one second and TGD also has 46 seconds instead of 45. My mp3 version says 13:46, but right now I can't look at my CD to see which one is correct. Anyway, is it that all their times are something and 46 seconds?

Yess that is it! I didn't think the answer would be found so suddenly. :lol Your turn.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on April 14, 2013, 01:26:35 PM
In the Name of God
Build me Up Break me Down
Outcry
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Scorpion on April 14, 2013, 01:29:55 PM
Lyrics by Petrucci?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on April 14, 2013, 01:34:14 PM
nope
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on April 14, 2013, 01:37:26 PM
They were all dropped from the setlists of the later legs of the tour in support of the album those three songs are included.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on April 14, 2013, 01:49:50 PM
I wouldn't consider O and BMUBMD dropped later in the tour just because they weren't included in one leg of the tour, which happened to be the second to last, to make room for LNF and TITT. I guess you could say so for ITNOG since it wasn't played on the DT/YES tour. Unless I'm mistaken..
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on April 14, 2013, 01:55:48 PM
It was played once during that leg. I tend to speak quite often about that show, so I'm not going to say anything here.

The fact that they were later re-integrated doesn't mean that they hadn't been out of the sets until then, so technically they were dropped, although not permanently :D
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 14, 2013, 01:59:26 PM
Their chorus's are similar....I can't describe it well, but jp usually holds the chords,  and JLB goes high.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Esqualeto on April 14, 2013, 02:11:28 PM
Is it that they all feature some sort of electronic drum thingy?

BMUBMD and Outcry in the intro and ITNOG in a break.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on April 14, 2013, 02:21:37 PM
Is it that they all feature some sort of electronic drum thingy?

BMUBMD and Outcry in the intro and ITNOG in a break.

Ah, I think you got it!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on April 14, 2013, 02:22:11 PM
Is it that they all feature some sort of electronic drum thingy?

BMUBMD and Outcry in the intro and ITNOG in a break.
There we go!! Yes the electronic drum sound. Your turn

It was played once during that leg. I tend to speak quite often about that show, so I'm not going to say anything here.

The fact that they were later re-integrated doesn't mean that they hadn't been out of the sets until then, so technically they were dropped, although not permanently :D
which song are you talking about, which leg? and haha ok :)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on April 14, 2013, 02:26:17 PM
DT/Yes tour. I'm sure you are shrewd enough to know where to look and to recognize the show the moment you see it.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Esqualeto on April 14, 2013, 02:43:47 PM
Ok, here we go! This might not be too hard, but thats a good thing I guess :P

The Glass Prison
In The Presence of Enemies, Pt.2
Outcry

Go, go, go!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on April 14, 2013, 02:50:20 PM
DT/Yes tour. I'm sure you are shrewd enough to know where to look and to recognize the show the moment you see it.

August 21 and Sep 1. Both looks like a freaking AWESOME shows. Surprisingly enough I don't think I recognize them, though I might just be forgetting something. Why'd they decide to do all of 6doit on 9/1? And is there a recording of the slight trainwreck in ES?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on April 14, 2013, 03:06:02 PM
Ok, here we go! This might not be too hard, but thats a good thing I guess :P

The Glass Prison
In The Presence of Enemies, Pt.2
Outcry

Go, go, go!

All fade in with a sound effect in Bm. And eventually they all get very heavy.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on April 14, 2013, 03:10:33 PM
DT/Yes tour. I'm sure you are shrewd enough to know where to look and to recognize the show the moment you see it.

August 21 and Sep 1. Both looks like a freaking AWESOME shows. Surprisingly enough I don't think I recognize them, though I might just be forgetting something. Why'd they decide to do all of 6doit on 9/1? And is there a recording of the slight trainwreck in ES?

The show I was hinting at is the second you mentioned. Never recorded, and neither was the other. Sadness.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on April 14, 2013, 03:21:24 PM
Ok, here we go! This might not be too hard, but thats a good thing I guess :P

The Glass Prison
In The Presence of Enemies, Pt.2
Outcry

Go, go, go!

- None feature a chorus that's repeated in the exact same way
- All are over 10 minutes long
- All are played on 7-stringed guitars, except for ITPOE Pt. 2
- All feature Jordan Rudess
- All feature a Unison between guitars and keyboards at some point
- All have a lengthy instrumental section
- None have lyrics by John Myung
- All start out relatively quiet, before turning heavy
- All end on a coda
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: bertoltus on April 14, 2013, 03:25:31 PM
All of them have a passage with crowd participation ("Hey!")
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on April 14, 2013, 03:26:51 PM
All of them have a passage with crowd participation ("Hey!")

Where is that in The Glass Prison? (or have I just never heard it?)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: bertoltus on April 14, 2013, 03:29:33 PM
All of them have a passage with crowd participation ("Hey!")

Where is that in The Glass Prison? (or have I just never heard it?)
6:30 onwards
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on April 14, 2013, 03:30:41 PM
good find!! but isn't it "heil" in ITPOE2?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Esqualeto on April 14, 2013, 03:46:42 PM
All of them have a passage with crowd participation ("Hey!")

Yup, that's it! Your turn.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: bertoltus on April 14, 2013, 03:49:02 PM
OK, that one should be pretty obvious:

This Is The Life
Stream Of Consciousness
Beyond This Life
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Scorpion on April 14, 2013, 03:52:01 PM
Only guitar in the intro.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on April 14, 2013, 03:54:59 PM
All three have an odd number of songs on their respective albums that are shorter.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: bertoltus on April 14, 2013, 03:58:52 PM
Scorpion's guess is the closer one.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on April 14, 2013, 04:04:22 PM
All end with just clean guitar.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on April 14, 2013, 04:07:15 PM
all start with just guitar and end with just clean guitar
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: bertoltus on April 14, 2013, 04:13:46 PM
Huh, I didn't even notice that. Nope, it's still something else.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on April 14, 2013, 04:22:25 PM
 :justjen All start with a guitar intro in 5/4 time!!!!!  :metal
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on April 14, 2013, 04:22:59 PM
Good catch.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: bertoltus on April 15, 2013, 08:28:06 AM
:justjen All start with a guitar intro in 5/4 time!!!!!  :metal
That's what I was looking for. :D

Your turn.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on April 15, 2013, 04:50:01 PM
This one is gonna be very very hard, but if in a couple days no one gets it, I'll post the answer-

The Silent Man
Just Let Me Breathe
Only a Matter of Time

note: I edited out a song and replaced it with OaMoT because it might have caused unnecessary confusion in the answer.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: jonnybaxy on April 15, 2013, 06:14:48 PM
This one is gonna be very very hard, but if in a couple days no one gets it, I'll post the answer-

The Silent Man
Just Let Me Breathe
Only a Matter of Time

note: I edited out a song and replaced it with OaMoT because it might have caused unnecessary confusion in the answer.

All have a lyrical/theme from another song?

Silent man: part of a mind beside itself
James let me brie: the lyrical recall "just close your mind....."
Don't know only a matter of time....
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Octavaripolis on April 16, 2013, 02:49:04 AM
All three of them have guitar solos shorter than 20 seconds.
All of these songs were released separately in some way on each live-cd after the release of falling into infinity.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Octavaripolis on April 16, 2013, 02:52:38 AM
Each song was released on the last album of Derek, Kevin and Charlie, respectively.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on April 17, 2013, 08:44:14 PM
Look at the times for these songs
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on April 17, 2013, 11:44:04 PM
Look at the times for these songs

The cubic root of the time lenghts in seconds equal the normalization coefficients of three different Hermite Polinomials.



I got it right, didn't I?  :blush
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on April 18, 2013, 12:11:50 AM
Look at the times for these songs

The cubic root of the time lenghts in seconds equal the normalization coefficients of three different Hermite Polinomials.



I got it right, didn't I?  :blush

One would hope that if that were actually true, you would have it right, but unfortunately i must ask you to look for a slightly simpler equation. And, Ok I admit this tribond was a silly one.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: GasparXR on April 18, 2013, 01:17:37 AM
Each digit of the track times is one number greater than or less than a digit in one or both of the other track times.

The Silent Man - 3:48
Just Let Me Breathe - 5:29
Only a Matter of Time - 6:36

3 & 2
4 & 5, 4 & 3
8 & 9

5 & 4
2 & 3, 2 & 3
9 & 8

6 & 5
3 & 2, 3 & 4
6 & 5

I don't expect this to be right because it's a rather far-fetched guess. :lol
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on April 18, 2013, 08:31:39 AM
Not what I was looking for  :lol Just let me Breathe is actually 5:28 if you look at the back cover of the album, so I'm going by that.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on April 18, 2013, 08:39:30 AM
Can you give another hint? When it comes to sheer numerology it becomes a bit hard to track down similarities.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Scorpion on April 18, 2013, 10:23:27 AM
Add all the digits of each time together and they are all equal to 15.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on April 18, 2013, 02:12:07 PM
Add all the digits of each time together and they are all equal to 15.

Correct!

Again-
Ok I admit this tribond was a silly one.

Next time I do one it won't be so ridiculous haha
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Scorpion on April 18, 2013, 02:25:00 PM
Woohoo!

This one should be fairly easy:

Take the Time
Goodnight Kiss
Octavarium
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on April 18, 2013, 02:40:14 PM
Woohoo!

This one should be fairly easy:

Take the Time
Goodnight Kiss
Octavarium

They all have a guitar solo as outros?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Scorpion on April 18, 2013, 03:10:02 PM
Good catch, but no.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Bolsters on April 18, 2013, 10:22:26 PM
Add all the digits of each time together and they are all equal to 15.
Correct!
That was really difficult...mostly because every source I check (my files, Wikipedia, etc) lists the times of the songs slightly differently, it's never consistent. One or two of them will add up to 14 or 16 instead.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: GasparXR on April 18, 2013, 11:21:12 PM
All three have an atmospheric intro?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: bertoltus on April 19, 2013, 01:51:37 AM
They all use samples?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Scorpion on April 19, 2013, 02:36:42 AM
No to both.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Scorpion on April 20, 2013, 07:05:03 AM
Hint: think live.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on April 20, 2013, 07:37:10 AM
They have all been featured (in parts or as a whole) in two different DVD releases?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Ad134 on April 20, 2013, 08:32:07 AM
Are they all track 13 on a live DVD?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on April 20, 2013, 09:46:07 AM
They were all played in 2006, but goodnight kiss I think only once.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Scorpion on April 20, 2013, 12:22:10 PM
Are they all track 13 on a live DVD?

Close enough. I was thinking that they were each the first song of Disc 3 of one of the 3-disc-live releases, but I'll let it count.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on April 20, 2013, 03:56:20 PM
good one! These hard ones can take a while, but I think it's worth it to wait a while until someone finally gets it.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Ad134 on April 20, 2013, 06:22:02 PM
Sweet! I had an idea for one of these, but it was too similar to the last one so I had to come up with one on the spot. I hope this isn't too easy!

Only A Matter Of Time
Wait For Sleep
The Silent Man
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on April 21, 2013, 12:01:50 AM
brainstorming...

-OAMOT and WFS were included on one (and only one) live release, and SM will be.
-WFS and SM have been played in a non-acoustic form
-All have at least one theme from another song on the album (OAMOT intro like Fortune iL, WFS with LTL, TSM chorus in Erotomania and the part just before the acoustic guitar solo is a recurring theme in A Mind Beside itself)
-In each song, the first time the title is sung, it lands on the tonic of the key ("just a matter of time" for OAMOT)
-each played near/at the end of the show on their original tours
-Kevin Moore on keys.
-OAMOT and WFS Kevin lyrics
-WFS and SM music by only one person
-Each only played live in 3-4 tours ever.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on April 21, 2013, 02:03:01 AM
Sweet! I had an idea for one of these, but it was too similar to the last one so I had to come up with one on the spot. I hope this isn't too easy!

Only A Matter Of Time
Wait For Sleep
The Silent Man

Track number 8, 7, 6 of albums 1, 2, 3?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ? on April 21, 2013, 02:24:14 AM
All the songs include the title of the album they're on in the lyrics.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on April 21, 2013, 02:28:35 AM
That's a better guess.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Ad134 on April 21, 2013, 06:11:37 AM
All the songs include the title of the album they're on in the lyrics.

Correct!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ? on April 21, 2013, 06:20:28 AM
Alright, here comes the next one:

Blind Faith
These Walls
Wither
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Ad134 on April 21, 2013, 06:31:41 AM
The guitar is tuned down at least three steps?
The song title is in the first line of the chorus?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 21, 2013, 06:37:38 AM
JP uses the Baritone guitar on all of them?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ? on April 21, 2013, 09:32:22 AM
JP uses the Baritone guitar on all of them?
Correct.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 21, 2013, 09:59:40 AM
Ok, this one shouldn't be too hard, I don't think-

Strange Deja Vu
Honor Thy Father
Prophets of War
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Ad134 on April 21, 2013, 12:54:26 PM
No guitar solo.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 22, 2013, 12:00:43 AM
And correct on the first guess. :tup
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Ad134 on April 22, 2013, 04:39:13 PM
Oh wow... hmm... I hope this hasn't been done before.

Hell's Kitchen
Voices
Strange Deja Vu
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: GasparXR on April 22, 2013, 05:21:31 PM
All three end on a different chord than the one that starts them?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on April 22, 2013, 05:28:56 PM
All have John Petrucci playing the guitar.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: jonnybaxy on April 22, 2013, 05:55:14 PM
ALL LEAD INTO THE FOLLOWING SONG!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Ad134 on April 23, 2013, 11:49:31 AM
ALL LEAD INTO THE FOLLOWING SONG!

Very close to what I was thinking...
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: jonnybaxy on April 23, 2013, 02:37:08 PM
All have a JR outro/lead in to next song?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: bertoltus on April 25, 2013, 02:27:14 AM
All of them share a riff with the song that comes before them on the album.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: jonnybaxy on April 27, 2013, 01:42:55 PM
Bump, need to know if the maker of this tribond is still alive...
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Ad134 on April 27, 2013, 04:09:13 PM
I'm still alive. No one has guessed it yet, but people have come close. Here's a hint for you:

The "tribond link" for these three could be counted as two separate things if you were really pedantic, but they're similar enough that I count it as one common feature.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: bertoltus on April 28, 2013, 03:20:37 AM
All of them either segue into the next song or the previous song segues into them.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: aprilethereal on April 28, 2013, 07:18:35 AM
All of them are part of a "group" of songs.

Hell's Kitchen kinda belongs to BMS
Voices is part of AMBI
Strange Deja Vu and OVerture 1928 form Scene two
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Ad134 on April 28, 2013, 09:56:01 AM
All of them either segue into the next song or the previous song segues into them.

Both, in fact!

Burning My Soul leads into Hell's Kitchen which leads into Lines in the Sand
Erotomania leads into Voices which leads into The Silent Man
Overture 1928 leads into Strange Deja Vu which leads into Through My Words

You're close enough that I count you as a win, so go ahead with your tribond!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: bertoltus on April 28, 2013, 02:18:08 PM
Alright, this one is either really easy or quite difficult.

A Change Of Seasons
I Walk Beside You
One Last Time
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Sycsa on April 28, 2013, 02:46:35 PM
They're all about women.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on April 28, 2013, 03:28:18 PM
Alright, this one is either really easy or quite difficult.

A Change Of Seasons
I Walk Beside You
One Last Time

The writing of those began during the writing of a previous album:

ACOS - 1989, Making of IAW era
IWBY - 2003, Train Of Thought sessions
One Last Time - Falling Into Infinity sessions, almost the entire song is featured as part of the Metropolis Part 2 song
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: aprilethereal on April 29, 2013, 04:26:22 AM
I guess wasteland got it right.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: bertoltus on April 29, 2013, 10:30:55 AM
Alright, this one is either really easy or quite difficult.

A Change Of Seasons
I Walk Beside You
One Last Time

The writing of those began during the writing of a previous album:

ACOS - 1989, Making of IAW era
IWBY - 2003, Train Of Thought sessions
One Last Time - Falling Into Infinity sessions, almost the entire song is featured as part of the Metropolis Part 2 song

...and we have a winner! :D
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on April 29, 2013, 10:33:58 AM
Give a few hours to come up with a nice one. Believe me or not, I was going to post this one (with SDVu instead of One Last Time).
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on April 29, 2013, 02:12:28 PM
This is not a really easy one. Also, for the Awake lovers!

Innocence Faded
6:00
The Mirror

Hint: the solution is in the music and before the music at the same time! :)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on April 29, 2013, 02:15:41 PM
None of the songs start with an actual note. 6:00 and Innocence Faded start with drumfills, while The Mirror starts with a pick slide.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on April 29, 2013, 02:23:37 PM
Good guess but no.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: GasparXR on April 29, 2013, 05:37:31 PM
Each song begins with a pick-up bar? ie. not a full bar
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on April 30, 2013, 12:47:27 AM
I am not a musician, guys. I have no idea of what a pick-up bar is. :D
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: aprilethereal on April 30, 2013, 01:29:12 AM
The lyrics of both Innocence Faded and The Mirror start with a noun that ends on "-tion", but 6:00 doesnt really fit in.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on April 30, 2013, 01:33:40 AM
Hint: go explore MP's tourography.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 30, 2013, 01:37:18 AM
All songs were born from extensions/jams from the IaW tour? (I see something called the Innocence Faded jam in the tourography from 1993, The Mirror obviously started as Puppies on Acid, and the search function doesn't like "6:00", so I'm guessing here)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on April 30, 2013, 01:55:04 AM
6:00 or it didn't happen  :D
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 30, 2013, 01:57:40 AM
Well I made my guess, and it's either right or wrong regardless of whether I go and find out the specifics of each one. The point is to find the commonality, not to write a thesis justifying the guess.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on April 30, 2013, 02:20:30 AM
Alright, then you kind of got it. WHat I had in mind is that every song had been in some way premièred during an early phase of its life. The Mirror had Puppies On Acid, you found the Innocence Faded jam and 6:00 was derived from a riff driven jam that was performed in the radio interview the band gave in Indy.

I was originally going to put Beyond This Life in the lot, as a part of it was used as intro to Peruvian Skies in January 1998, but that occurrence is not cited in the tourography, so I opted to keep it out.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 30, 2013, 02:31:10 AM
Unfortunately, the MP tourography isn't too great with certain search terms, so I couldn't get it to show 6:00 no matter what search term I used. But I tried!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on April 30, 2013, 02:37:21 AM
Unfortunately, the MP tourography isn't too great with certain search terms, so I couldn't get it to show 6:00 no matter what search term I used. But I tried!

The reference show is this one https://www.mikeportnoy.com/dates/tourography/?show=186 , and this is where they played BTL before Peruvian Skies: https://www.mikeportnoy.com/dates/tourography/?show=387

Maybe I shouldn't have hinted at the tourography, this tribond died too soon  :|
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 01, 2013, 03:45:43 AM
Ok, this one might be easy, or it might be ridiculously difficult. I'm not sure. But that's half the fun!

The Silent Man
Trial of Tears
Through Her Eyes
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Sycsa on May 01, 2013, 03:57:15 AM
Easy, you say? Ehm, all the titles consist of 3 words and start with a T.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 01, 2013, 04:04:06 AM
Nope, it's not to do with the title of the songs. I knew someone would see a similarity there though! I only noticed that after I posted it.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on May 01, 2013, 04:06:49 AM
Damn, I was about to say "three words in each title"!  >:(
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 01, 2013, 04:20:24 AM
When I said it might be easy, I didn't mean it would be something really simple like that. I think it is kinda difficult, but I've also learned never to underestimate DTF's sleuth skills. :lol
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on May 01, 2013, 04:32:42 AM
They were all played in a single night in Koln :D
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: GasparXR on May 01, 2013, 09:50:10 AM
If it something to do with setlists, wasteland will get it. :lol
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: aprilethereal on May 01, 2013, 10:40:31 AM
That might be too simple but they all mention their song title in the lyrics.

EDIT: All three talk about water in different ways:
TSM: "It'd be better if I swim"
TOT: "It's raining" and obviously tears
THE: "I felt so empty as I cried", "I wept just like a baby"
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 01, 2013, 10:45:00 AM
That might be too simple but they all mention their song title in the lyrics.

Nope, it's something a bit more exclusive than that. I'd say no more than about 10 songs total would be in this group.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Ad134 on May 02, 2013, 06:03:24 AM
Prominent acoustic guitar?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 02, 2013, 06:16:43 AM
EDIT: All three talk about water in different ways:
TSM: "It'd be better if I swim"
TOT: "It's raining" and obviously tears
THE: "I felt so empty as I cried", "I wept just like a baby"

Nope, it's more specific than that. You're getting warmer though.

Prominent acoustic guitar?

Nope. As I said in my last post, there would be no more than about 10 DT songs that would fit into this same group (and no less than about 5). I'm not sure how much help that is, but it should narrow it down slightly.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Ad134 on May 02, 2013, 06:49:14 AM
All three have the word "awake" in their lyrics.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 02, 2013, 06:51:45 AM
All three have the word "awake" in their lyrics.

Bam! Nice job! :clap: You're up.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Ad134 on May 02, 2013, 06:58:35 AM
Okay, this one might be a bit easy, maybe not.


Through Her Eyes
Vacant
Octavarium
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 02, 2013, 07:04:40 AM
They all involve unconscious women. Just like Zydar's house.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Ad134 on May 02, 2013, 07:05:38 AM
Amusing, but no.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Zydar on May 02, 2013, 07:30:32 AM
They all involve unconscious women. Just like Zydar's house.

:zydar:
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ? on May 02, 2013, 07:30:51 AM
All of those songs include the word "eyes" in the lyrics.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Ad134 on May 02, 2013, 09:07:56 AM
All of those songs include the word "eyes" in the lyrics.

Oh wow, that's cool. I didn't even realise that.


But no. It's nothing to do with the lyrics or the composition.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on May 02, 2013, 11:13:52 AM
Okay, this one might be a bit easy, maybe not.


Through Her Eyes
Vacant
Octavarium

They were all played live with guest musicians: THE with Theresa Thomason in LSFNY, Vacant with Eugene Friesen in 04 and with the orchestra in Score and Octavarium in Score.

AND: they were all recorded in the studio with guest artists: Through Her Eyes with Jay Beckenstein (from Spyro Gyra) on the early mix, Vacant with Eugene Friesen and Octavarium with the flute guy/girl (not really sure about this, if it was indeed a flute player or if it was Jordan).

AND: they all have a line about eyes and the way they look in unnatural circumstances:
- So innocent, eyes open wide
- Eyes glazed
- Eyes open but not getting thrugh to me
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ? on May 02, 2013, 11:33:21 AM
You wouldn't have needed to add the latter, because
It's nothing to do with the lyrics or the composition.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on May 02, 2013, 11:45:00 AM
Oh, right... but it's nevertheless a cool common trait!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ? on May 02, 2013, 11:55:16 AM
Yeah, it is! I didn't remember the guest musician thing, but it might be the correct answer.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Ad134 on May 02, 2013, 03:47:35 PM
Again, some really interesting facts are coming out of these guesses, but still no correct answer.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on May 02, 2013, 08:05:07 PM
All three are preceded by a song over 10 minutes on the albums they're on.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Ad134 on May 03, 2013, 07:33:52 AM
Nope.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Ad134 on May 09, 2013, 07:50:09 AM
Watched any live DVDs recently?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ? on May 09, 2013, 07:52:34 AM
Each song has appeared on a live DVD only once?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Ad134 on May 09, 2013, 07:55:49 AM
Still nope.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on May 09, 2013, 03:00:49 PM
All feature guest musicians on the live DVDs they appeared on.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on May 09, 2013, 03:02:17 PM
All feature guest musicians on the live DVDs they appeared on.

Already said! :D
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on May 09, 2013, 03:05:54 PM
Oh, oops.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Ad134 on May 09, 2013, 06:07:48 PM
It might be giving too much away now, but the clue is nothing to do with a live song performance either.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on May 11, 2013, 06:36:06 PM
Octavarium
Through Her Eyes
Vacant

:dangerwillrobinson: vowel, consonant, vowel??

Otherwise-

1. Verses led by piano
2. melodies from other songs
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Ad134 on May 11, 2013, 09:26:34 PM
Octavarium
Through Her Eyes
Vacant

:dangerwillrobinson: vowel, consonant, vowel??

Otherwise-

1. Verses led by piano
2. melodies from other songs

Still nope. The answer involves live DVDs.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on May 11, 2013, 10:11:58 PM
the clue is nothing to do with a live song performance either.
   >:( >:(
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on May 12, 2013, 12:49:42 AM
 :facepalm: I was thinking of this, then said "naahh" because I didn't hink it was the case for THE, but then I checked...

SONG PLAYED DURING THE CLOSING CREDITS OF THE DVD'S OF THEIR RESPECTIVE ALBUMS! :dangerwillrobinson:

edit: and it's the instrumentals of these songs
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on May 12, 2013, 01:51:44 AM
Nobody ever watches the ending credits. :dangerwillrobinson:
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Ad134 on May 12, 2013, 09:24:50 AM
:facepalm: I was thinking of this, then said "naahh" because I didn't hink it was the case for THE, but then I checked...

SONG PLAYED DURING THE CLOSING CREDITS OF THE DVD'S OF THEIR RESPECTIVE ALBUMS! :dangerwillrobinson:

edit: and it's the instrumentals of these songs

DING DING DING, WE HAVE A WINNER!

THE was technically an alternate version, but it was still the same song.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on May 19, 2013, 02:18:36 PM
ok hopefully this one hasn't already been done!

Fortune in Lies
6:00
Surrounded
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: aprilethereal on May 19, 2013, 02:30:57 PM
They're all 5 minutes + something long
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on May 20, 2013, 08:20:59 AM
No
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ? on May 20, 2013, 11:33:25 AM
All the 3 will be on the new DVD
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on May 20, 2013, 11:38:33 AM
All the 3 will be on the new DVD

I'm so freaking excited to see these  :metal keep guessing
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Ad134 on May 20, 2013, 08:16:49 PM
KevMo on keys

The songs all mention waking up (6:00 and surrounded in the lyrics, AFIL in samples)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on May 20, 2013, 08:19:57 PM
The songs all mention waking up (6:00 and surrounded in the lyrics, AFIL in samples)

very close!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ? on June 02, 2013, 09:56:36 AM
:bump:
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on June 28, 2013, 01:35:03 AM
haha want me to give the answer?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Moor on June 28, 2013, 02:44:48 AM
There are references to dreams in the three songs:

Fortune in Lies: "...everything was right in my world... and then I woke up"
6:00: "Six o'clock the siren kicks him from a dream"
Surrounded: "Dreams are shaking Set sirens waking up tired eyes"

 ???
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on June 28, 2013, 03:11:45 AM
pretty close. It's just that they all three say "siren".

And you just listed the right line in 2 out of the 3 songs haha

So your turn, I want mine to be over  :lol
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Moor on June 28, 2013, 05:48:29 AM
Beyond This Life
The Count of Tuscany
Trial of Tears
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on June 28, 2013, 06:00:55 AM
They all start in the key of Ab minor.

They also all start with the note of Ab, I believe.

Something related to that.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Moor on June 28, 2013, 06:20:03 AM
Nope
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on June 28, 2013, 06:42:20 AM
It can't be a coincidence that they all significantly feature Ab!
:lol Am I even warm?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Moor on June 28, 2013, 10:44:03 AM
Not even close... I never realized that the 3 songs begin with Ab!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Moor on June 29, 2013, 02:09:38 AM
I will make it easier ... it is lyrics related...
(I do not know why I am playing this game  :()
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: aprilethereal on June 29, 2013, 02:32:09 AM
1.) All feature their title in the lyrics
2.) All feature lyrical passages that are repeated several times throughout the song
3.) All talk about some kind of fear:
"I'm frightened for my life"
"In the warmth of my fear"
"Desperate shooting" (this one doesn't really fit to be honest)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Moor on June 29, 2013, 03:49:14 AM
Nope
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on June 29, 2013, 07:05:42 AM
All have their title as the last line of lyric, except for Trial of Tears, which has 'Deep in Heaven' as the last words, which is the title of a movement of the song.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Moor on June 29, 2013, 07:32:13 AM
Nope... It is something straight fwd
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: aprilethereal on June 29, 2013, 08:22:18 AM
In all three songs there are parts where the narrator speaks to a "you" (not sure how I should phrase this, I hope you can understand what I mean :D)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Scorpion on June 29, 2013, 08:25:25 AM
In all three songs there are parts where the narrator speaks to a "you" (not sure how I should phrase this, I hope you can understand what I mean :D)

Lyrisches Du?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Lucien on June 29, 2013, 08:28:42 AM
People are driving?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Moor on June 29, 2013, 08:49:04 AM
None of the above
Is there a rule where after a certain time i shall give the answer?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on June 29, 2013, 08:52:16 AM
None of the above
Is there a rule where after a certain time i shall give the answer?

I don't believe there's any hard rule about it. If people get really stuck, I'd try more hints if possible before giving it away though.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Moor on June 29, 2013, 09:08:06 AM
 Here's a hint:
Peruvian Skies could replace any of the 3 songs
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on June 29, 2013, 09:56:02 AM
maybe everyone is just tired of this game?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Moor on June 29, 2013, 10:13:49 AM
Yes u r right
The 3 songs share references for cities being New York, Echoes Hill and Tuscany, and that is why Peruvian Skies could join as well.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ? on June 29, 2013, 10:24:20 AM
That's actually quite logical, how come I didn't think about it?

I have an idea for a new trio of songs, but I'll post it only if you guys let me go next.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on June 29, 2013, 10:25:14 AM
I say please do, but who knows if anyone's gonna feel like thinking about it
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ? on June 29, 2013, 10:27:55 AM
Well, no-one got the previous one right and the game needs to go on, so what the F#...

Take the Time
To Live Forever
Metropolis
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on June 29, 2013, 10:29:37 AM
ATCO Demos?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ? on June 29, 2013, 10:30:40 AM
Nope. However, I have a feeling you will be the one who gets this right :lol
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on June 29, 2013, 10:42:17 AM
Throughout the ages all of them have been played with snippets of songs by other artists in them. (very unlikely)
All had some sort of extension when played live.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: aprilethereal on June 29, 2013, 11:37:03 AM
Lyrisches Du?

so what the F#...

:rollin at both of these
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ? on June 29, 2013, 12:50:31 PM
Throughout the ages all of them have been played with snippets of songs by other artists in them. (very unlikely)
All had some sort of extension when played live.
No. The correct answer is related to live performances, though (as you probably guessed from my previous post).
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: GasparXR on June 29, 2013, 01:17:51 PM
I know TLF and Metropolis were performed when Charlie was still in the band... Was TTT as well? I'm not even sure, just making a guess :lol
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on June 29, 2013, 01:54:26 PM
I don't think there's any way in hell Charlie could have sung two seconds of TTT  :o :D
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: GasparXR on June 29, 2013, 02:57:32 PM
I don't think there's any way in hell Charlie could have sung two seconds of TTT  :o :D

Yeah, I figured not. XD
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on June 29, 2013, 04:37:00 PM
Every song featured JLB hitting F# live.
You recently bought the CD of the first time they were performed in a single night.
There hasn't been a single tour without 2 out of the 3 of them being performed. (at least partially)

Though in the case of TLF it was actually playing an earlier version of the song, it happened that all the three songs were performed without one or more verses (TTT in 08-09, Met in 97-98 and in various occasions and TLF on WDADRU).
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ? on June 30, 2013, 01:16:56 AM
None of the answers have been correct yet. I'll give you a hint: I'm referring to a single (special) performance of each song - 2 of them happened at the same show.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on June 30, 2013, 01:41:38 AM
They all were played live with a person who was in DT at some point, but not at the point of that show-

TLF with Charlie in 2004
M1 with Derek and Charlie in the same show
TTT with JR at "The Rudess Experiment 1994" show


Or is it just a special guest live jam because there's a video of Joe Satriani coming out for the jam at the end of TTT?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ? on June 30, 2013, 02:12:48 AM
Really close! The TTT performance is a different one, so keep guessing ;)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on June 30, 2013, 02:56:50 AM
Well, they played TTT in the show with Steve Stone, but not with Steve Stone on vocals. And I was about to quote Satch appearence too!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on June 30, 2013, 02:59:06 AM
Take The Time with the drum duet with Mike Mangini in Boston 2002!  :D :D
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ? on June 30, 2013, 03:02:50 AM
Take The Time with the drum duet with Mike Mangini in Boston 2002!  :D :D
Bingo!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on June 30, 2013, 03:07:59 AM
So...

Pull Me Under
Metropolis Pt.1
Under A Glass Moon

Think live.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on June 30, 2013, 03:10:55 AM
All have been used as an encore in the ADTOE tour.

Though that's probably too easy, isn't it? :biggrin:
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on June 30, 2013, 03:12:16 AM
All have been used as an encore in the ADTOE tour.

Though that's probably too easy, isn't it? :biggrin:

Yep. I was expecting this solution to come within the first 5 minutes. :D

You gotta try harder than that, quite harder :D
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: GasparXR on June 30, 2013, 08:59:08 AM
This isn't live, but I noticed that in the order you listed them, the first letter of each song spells PMU. :P
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on June 30, 2013, 09:54:10 AM
 :lol What a great find! Well, I guess the order has some kind of a meaning, but of course it's not what you said :D
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on June 30, 2013, 11:59:43 AM
They've all three been used as both the opening song and the encore song.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on June 30, 2013, 12:23:31 PM
True but no  :)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on June 30, 2013, 01:00:33 PM
All on Images and Words
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on June 30, 2013, 01:09:49 PM
Think live.

:D
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on June 30, 2013, 01:41:46 PM
All played on the Images and Words tour.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on June 30, 2013, 01:51:31 PM
Too easy! This is not an easy one.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on June 30, 2013, 02:27:33 PM
I got it!! They are often all three performed with an added "COME ON" before the instrumental and an added "YEA" as the very last lyric!!!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on June 30, 2013, 02:57:01 PM
Ok, it's a tad less outlandish that that  :lol

And I think you should give me the answer to that other tribond I submitted to you some time ago  :hat
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on June 30, 2013, 03:04:13 PM
your inbox is full.  :lol that's my excuse (not really). but it is full haha
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on July 01, 2013, 04:44:11 AM
What aspect of 'live' should we look at? Since I basically haven't seen any bootleg and don't want to search through Portnoy's tourography to find *something*, I have no idea where to start with just the 'think live' hint.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on July 01, 2013, 05:05:47 AM
What aspect of 'live' should we look at? Since I basically haven't seen any bootleg and don't want to search through Portnoy's tourography to find *something*, I have no idea where to start with just the 'think live' hint.

Well, it has to do with particular circumstances involving those songs being played. It's about novelities.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: liran95 on July 01, 2013, 06:46:24 AM
What aspect of 'live' should we look at? Since I basically haven't seen any bootleg and don't want to search through Portnoy's tourography to find *something*, I have no idea where to start with just the 'think live' hint.

Well, it has to do with particular circumstances involving those songs being played. It's about novelities.

They have all been played as an encore in an album-promotional tour?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on July 01, 2013, 08:00:20 AM
No  :D
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: HolidaysAnoraks on July 01, 2013, 06:02:26 PM
Were they all first songs performed live with new members? I know UAGM was the first live song they did with Mangini, and I think Pull Me Under was the opening song of their first show with Rudess in 1994.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on July 01, 2013, 06:03:44 PM
Maybe Metropolis first show with JLB?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on July 02, 2013, 12:20:59 AM
HolidaysAnoraks got it, but it's the first song played by a new member upon officially joining the band.mso, PMU for Derek and James, Metropolis for Jordan and UAGM for Mike!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: HolidaysAnoraks on July 02, 2013, 05:33:36 AM
Okay, I hope I didn't make this too easy...

Pull Me Under
Surrounded
Take The Time

This also has to do with their live performances.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Scorpion on July 02, 2013, 05:39:25 AM
All performed on the NYC show of '93, of which there is also an official bootleg?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: HolidaysAnoraks on July 02, 2013, 05:48:16 AM
Nope. It's not quite as specific as that.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Zydar on July 02, 2013, 05:49:24 AM
They're all on Images And Words :neverusethis:
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on July 02, 2013, 06:05:29 AM
They appear on two official DVD releases? (LIT&LAB for PMU, LIT&CiM for TTT and Surrounded)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ? on July 02, 2013, 06:08:12 AM
Welcome HolidaysAnoraks! Getting a tribon right is an awesome way to start posting here :D
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: HolidaysAnoraks on July 02, 2013, 06:47:50 AM
Thanks! And none of the guesses are right so far.  ;) Do I need to give a hint?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: mellotron_scratch on July 02, 2013, 06:50:20 AM
They've all been played with extended solos?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on July 02, 2013, 06:56:39 AM
They all featured snippets of other songs:

PMU -> Master Of Puppets
Surrounded -> Sugar Mice / Mother
Take The Time -> Various
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: HolidaysAnoraks on July 02, 2013, 06:57:38 AM
They all featured snippets of other songs:

PMU -> Master Of Puppets
Surrounded -> Sugar Mice / Mother
Take The Time -> Various
Correct!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Zydar on July 02, 2013, 06:58:05 AM
Huh, I didn't know that!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on July 02, 2013, 07:18:49 AM
Crap, I could have known this one :P
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on July 02, 2013, 07:23:49 AM
Crap, I could have known this one :P

Go ahead, Zydar or Rich, I'm in no mood for creating one today  :D

Decide between yourselves who takes this :D
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Zydar on July 02, 2013, 07:31:23 AM
Sorry, I have no inspiration to create one.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on July 02, 2013, 07:32:07 AM
Rich?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Zydar on July 02, 2013, 07:32:40 AM
Nah, poor.





 :footloose:
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on July 02, 2013, 07:45:31 AM
(https://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff49/bobjester/bth_russian-roulette.gif)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on July 02, 2013, 10:17:41 AM
Alrighty, here goes:

- Lifting Shadows Off a Dream
- The Root of All Evil
- The Ones Who Help To Set the Sun
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on July 02, 2013, 07:41:21 PM
Have only been played on two world tours.

Lsoad- Awake and 6doit
TROAE- Octavarium and ADTOE
TOWHTSTS- WDADU and Train of Thought.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: GasparXR on July 02, 2013, 07:49:25 PM
TOWHTSTS was played on the Awake tour, was it not?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on July 02, 2013, 08:37:53 PM
Oh that's right it was a few times.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on July 02, 2013, 11:43:40 PM
Without the keys!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on July 03, 2013, 02:58:04 AM
Probably true, but not what I was looking for. The solution is more simple than that.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: GasparXR on July 03, 2013, 09:35:22 AM
I'm also pretty sure LSOAD was played on the FII tour as well.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on July 03, 2013, 09:38:40 AM
Alrighty, here goes:

- Lifting Shadows Off a Dream
- The Root of All Evil
- The Ones Who Help To Set the Sun


The sun shines on a tree and roots grow but shadows make it worse
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on July 03, 2013, 09:50:23 AM
Alrighty, here goes:

- Lifting Shadows Off a Dream
- The Root of All Evil
- The Ones Who Help To Set the Sun


The sun shines on a tree and roots grow but shadows make it worse

Almost.











no wtf :neverusethis:
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on July 03, 2013, 09:52:23 AM
I'm always shitty at these. It's probably got something to do with lyrics or compositions or something back in a concert in '07 :(
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on July 03, 2013, 01:54:42 PM
Well, I really think this one is very easy, but it's right on my line of thinking, so that could be it.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on July 03, 2013, 02:24:43 PM
The first two song titles have 5 letters, the third 8. The answer to this Tribond is: NUGGETZ.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on July 03, 2013, 02:42:05 PM
:lol

also, I think you mean 'words' instead of 'letters'
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on July 03, 2013, 02:45:03 PM
Words has 5 letters. Letters have 7. Missed by one, 7+1=8, your arguement is invalid.  :hat
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on July 04, 2013, 03:06:17 AM
Well, you're somewhat on the right track.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: bertoltus on July 04, 2013, 05:55:59 AM
They all have the longest written title on their respective albums.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on July 04, 2013, 06:00:05 AM
There we go, you're up!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: bertoltus on July 04, 2013, 06:29:45 AM
All right, here we go:

Space-Dye-Vest
The Best Of Times
The Spirit Carries On
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on July 04, 2013, 06:40:31 AM
All right, here we go:

Space-Dye-Vest
The Best Of Times
The Spirit Carries On

They are all somewhat about moving on or being unable to?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: aprilethereal on July 06, 2013, 05:27:49 AM
Losing someone very close (not sure about TSCO)?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: bertoltus on July 06, 2013, 07:09:34 AM
It's nothing that involves the content of the lyrics. And just to be sure, nothing related to shows either.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: HolidaysAnoraks on July 06, 2013, 02:44:55 PM
All three have had demo versions released with other people singing lead vocals besides JLB? The Wither single has a version of The Best of Times with Portnoy singing, and the SFAM demos have Petrucci singing The Spirit Carries On. I also think there is a version of Space-Dye Vest with Kevin singing.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: bertoltus on July 06, 2013, 03:00:44 PM
All three have had demo versions released with other people singing lead vocals besides JLB? The Wither single has a version of The Best of Times with Portnoy singing, and the SFAM demos have Petrucci singing The Spirit Carries On. I also think there is a version of Space-Dye Vest with Kevin singing.

Got it! ;)

Your turn.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: HolidaysAnoraks on July 06, 2013, 03:56:32 PM
This one should be fairly easy...

Afterlife
6:00
This Shattered Fortress
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on July 06, 2013, 04:09:42 PM
Lyrics by a band member that left after the release of the album the song was on.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: HolidaysAnoraks on July 06, 2013, 09:02:08 PM
Yep!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on July 07, 2013, 02:41:33 AM
Alright, next one. It's fairly random, but I'm sure people will find out anyway:

- Overture
- Voices
- The Glass Prison
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Lucien on July 07, 2013, 08:05:04 AM
Alright, next one. It's fairly random, but I'm sure people will find out anyway:

- Overture
- Voices
- The Glass Prison

Six Degrees Oveture, I assume?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on July 07, 2013, 09:29:06 AM
Yes, or else I'd have written 'Overture 1928'.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: 425 on July 07, 2013, 05:04:35 PM
I'll go ahead and guess the painfully obvious "they're all part of a larger piece" (Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, A Mind Beside Itself, Twelve-Step Suite).
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on July 07, 2013, 05:19:11 PM
Good guess, but not exactly what I was looking for.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: jonnybaxy on July 07, 2013, 05:21:53 PM
all part of a mental health issue theme?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Lucien on July 07, 2013, 06:15:58 PM
all part of a mental health issue theme?

Alcoholism is a mental issue?

I guess it probably is
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: GasparXR on July 07, 2013, 06:30:21 PM
all part of a mental health issue theme?

Alcoholism is a mental issue?

I guess it probably is

It doesn't mean mental disorder obviously, if that's what you meant. But it could be described as simply an issue of the mind.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: jonnybaxy on July 07, 2013, 06:31:59 PM
Addiction is definitely a mental health issue.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on July 08, 2013, 03:45:14 AM
It has nothing to do with the lyrics; 425 was actually on the right track there.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: 425 on July 08, 2013, 10:38:06 AM
Ah! They're all the longest part of their larger piece of music (by which I mean: Overture is the longest movement in SDOIT, Voices is the longest song on AMBI and TGP is the longest song in the 12SS)?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on July 08, 2013, 11:44:39 AM
That's correct! You're up.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: 425 on July 08, 2013, 12:19:04 PM
Yay! Alright, I'm not quite sure what the difficultly level of mine will be, but here goes:

Blind Faith
Endless Sacrifice
The Dark Eternal Night
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on July 08, 2013, 12:21:02 PM
Lenghty instrumental break in the middle?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: 425 on July 08, 2013, 12:33:11 PM
That's not precisely what I was looking for but generally on the right track.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: jonnybaxy on July 08, 2013, 01:01:26 PM
All have a section in the middle where only JR is playing a solo?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: 425 on July 08, 2013, 01:10:23 PM
Yep. I guess it was pretty easy. You're up.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: jonnybaxy on July 08, 2013, 01:21:06 PM
Cheers!


Build Me Up, Break Me Down
Outcry
In The Name Of God
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ? on July 08, 2013, 01:24:51 PM
All include a section with an electronic beat?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: jonnybaxy on July 08, 2013, 01:46:35 PM
Damn didn't think it was that obvious, take the stage!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Lucidity on July 08, 2013, 02:14:13 PM
Cheers!


Build Me Up, Break Me Down
Outcry
In The Name Of God

Godammit, I was literally planning to post this exact one when I got the chance! xP
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ? on July 08, 2013, 02:17:47 PM
Damn didn't think it was that obvious, take the stage!
Electronic elements are so rare in DT's music that it was easy for me :D

Afterlife
Surrounded
Wither
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on July 08, 2013, 02:30:38 PM
Damn didn't think it was that obvious, take the stage!
Electronic elements are so rare in DT's music that it was easy for me :D

+ that exact same Tribond had been done before in this very thread.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: jonnybaxy on July 08, 2013, 03:10:13 PM
ah... that's a let down..
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: TheAtliator on July 08, 2013, 03:21:06 PM
 :biggrin:
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wolfking on July 08, 2013, 03:37:34 PM
Damn didn't think it was that obvious, take the stage!
Electronic elements are so rare in DT's music that it was easy for me :D

Afterlife
Surrounded
Wither

Almost the same track length time?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ? on July 08, 2013, 11:26:35 PM
Nope. The correct answer is related to the track lengths, though.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wolfking on July 09, 2013, 05:01:39 AM
Nope. The correct answer is related to the track lengths, though.

No idea.  How about that there is a track of between 8-9 minutes either before or after these tracks.  You know 5-8.  ???
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on July 09, 2013, 05:08:36 AM
All three are locked between tracks longer than them.
All three are between 5 and 6 minutes long.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ? on July 09, 2013, 05:16:52 AM
No right answers yet!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wolfking on July 09, 2013, 05:21:49 AM
I got no idea then.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on July 09, 2013, 05:30:45 AM
On each album the songs are on there are exactly 5 songs longer than said song.

On WDADU there's 5 songs longer than Afterlife (Ytse Jam, Killing Hand, Light Fuse, Sun, and Matter of Time)
On I&W there's 5 songs longer than Surrounded (PMU, TTT, Metropolis, UAGM and LTL)
On BC&SL all other 5 songs are longer than Wither
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ? on July 09, 2013, 05:34:51 AM
Congrats, you got it right! :tup
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wolfking on July 09, 2013, 05:36:52 AM
Nice work Elite.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on July 09, 2013, 05:57:24 AM
Cool :tup

Let's see what I can do:

- Ytse Jam
- Take the Time
- Learning to Live
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on July 09, 2013, 07:22:13 AM
All where played before the release of the album they ended up being on.

Additionally, they were played back to back in this famous show: https://www.mikeportnoy.com/dates/tourography/?show=29
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on July 09, 2013, 07:30:42 AM
All where played before the release of the album they ended up being on.

Additionally, they were played back to back in this famous show: https://www.mikeportnoy.com/dates/tourography/?show=29

That must be the wrong link, because I don't see TTT or LTL in there. You're on the right track though, but the first guess was not what I was looking for.

EDIT: Duh... they're there with working titles..
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on July 09, 2013, 07:37:25 AM
The three songs were left off Live At The Marquee despite being on the set and regularly played?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on July 09, 2013, 07:37:57 AM
Indeed :tup
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ? on July 11, 2013, 10:13:21 AM
:bump:

Isn't it Marco's turn?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: jonnybaxy on July 11, 2013, 10:21:27 AM
It doesn't matter, he will chose something about a specific concert whilst they were called majesty which no-one knows anything about except him... Or something ridiculous like that!  :lol
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ? on July 11, 2013, 10:26:13 AM
:lol

Well, does anyone else have ideas?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on July 11, 2013, 10:27:27 AM
Well, every tribond so far has been solved, so I don't see the deal. And, yes, it's Marco's turn.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on July 19, 2013, 01:34:33 PM
wasteland, you still up?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on July 19, 2013, 01:46:15 PM
Oh, I completely forgot about this! Sorry people for the delay! Go ahead, Rich!  :)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on July 19, 2013, 02:15:04 PM
Me again? Okay.. let's see:

- Caught in a Web
- The Test That Stumped Them All
- A Change of Seasons
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: aprilethereal on July 19, 2013, 02:39:59 PM
7 string guitars. Not sure about TTTSTA. Actually, I'm pretty sure TTTSTA is played on a six string. Oh well. :huh:
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on July 19, 2013, 02:57:26 PM
7 string guitars. Not sure about TTTSTA. Actually, I'm pretty sure TTTSTA is played on a six string. Oh well. :huh:

You're wrong. TTTSTA was played on a 7-string.* Which means you're right as well. Your turn!

* On the album at least, you can hear the low notes from the B-string here and there, specifically under the guitar and keyboard solos. Live Petrucci played this on a six string on Score (just watched it). I assume because there's literally no time to swap guitars after War Inside My Head.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: aprilethereal on July 20, 2013, 12:45:07 AM
Alright, I'm going to post mine later today :tup
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: aprilethereal on July 20, 2013, 04:50:41 AM
okay, this one might be pretty hard:

A Nightmare To Remember
Lines In The Sand
Another Day
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on July 20, 2013, 05:36:30 AM
- all songs have something unusual going on for DT;
      - ANTR has MP growling
      - Lines in the Sand has guest vocals from that King's X guy
      - Another Day has a saxophone solo
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: aprilethereal on July 20, 2013, 05:43:02 AM
nope
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on July 20, 2013, 05:54:16 AM
- lyrics by JP
- all contain a guitar solo
- all feature MP, who's not in the band anymore
- all start with an 'A', except LITS, it starts with an 'L'
- James LaBrie sings on every track
- John Myung plays bass on every track
- ANTR utilises blast-beats, all other songs do not
- ANTR is played in drop C, the rest isn't

:neverusethis:
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ? on July 20, 2013, 06:05:49 AM
Sorry for nitpicking, but ANTR is in standard C. Anyway, I have no idea what the correct answer could be :lol
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on July 20, 2013, 06:18:00 AM
Sorry for nitpicking, but ANTR is in standard C. Anyway, I have no idea what the correct answer could be :lol

Oh, I didn't know, I never tried it. As soon as I have to tune down anything more than Drop D, I won't play it.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ? on July 20, 2013, 06:43:38 AM
JP has never really used drop tunings - Home and (a part of) the 6/8 section in The Great Debate are in drop D, but that's it.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on July 20, 2013, 06:49:27 AM
JP has never really used drop tunings - Home and (a part of) the 6/8 section in The Great Debate are in drop D, but that's it.

And I think LNF?
And I didn't know about TGD having a drop tuning anywhere. The more you know!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on July 20, 2013, 07:00:22 AM
JP has never really used drop tunings - Home and (a part of) the 6/8 section in The Great Debate are in drop D, but that's it.

And I think LNF?

LNF is in D-standard. I guess he has indeed used drop-tunings very sparingly.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ? on July 20, 2013, 07:08:06 AM
And I didn't know about TGD having a drop tuning anywhere. The more you know!
Yeah, it's just a small portion of the song and obviously he plays the whole song in standard tuning live, but you can hear a low D at least in the final chord before "Harvesting existence...". Reminds me of how he used a 7-string in the instrumental section of TTTSTA (as mentioned above), although the rest of the song is played on a 6-string.
LNF is in D-standard.
Yup, JP confirmed this in the track-by-track breakdown of ADTOE at Music Radar.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on July 20, 2013, 07:10:52 AM
JP has never really used drop tunings - Home and (a part of) the 6/8 section in The Great Debate are in drop D, but that's it.

And I think LNF?

LNF is in D-standard. I guess he has indeed used drop-tunings very sparingly.

Oh ok. I knew it was D, I just thought I recalled someone mentioning very recently that it was a drop tuning.

He does indeed use them rarely, especially considering how many songs DT have that are down-tuned, and involve heavy riffage.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: aprilethereal on July 20, 2013, 11:15:10 AM
- lyrics by JP
- all contain a guitar solo
- all feature MP, who's not in the band anymore
- all start with an 'A', except LITS, it starts with an 'L'
- James LaBrie sings on every track
- John Myung plays bass on every track
- ANTR utilises blast-beats, all other songs do not
- ANTR is played in drop C, the rest isn't

:neverusethis:

Not sure if I should answer this post :lol
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on July 20, 2013, 11:36:39 AM
Please do! I want to know if I'm right :)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: aprilethereal on July 20, 2013, 04:10:43 PM
You're right, but none of those is what I had in mind :D
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: aprilethereal on July 21, 2013, 11:34:29 AM
:bump:

come on, guys!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on July 21, 2013, 12:10:38 PM
You said ' this might be pretty hard'. The lack of any correct results perhaps shows that it is.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on July 21, 2013, 12:22:43 PM
As the creator and executive producer of this thread's 1000th post I demand you post one hint.  :yarr
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: aprilethereal on July 21, 2013, 03:06:24 PM
Okay, master, here you go:

You need the album packaging for this one.

And yep, it's kinda hard. Sorry. ;D
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ? on July 22, 2013, 12:51:12 AM
Is it related to the credits or the lyrics?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: aprilethereal on July 22, 2013, 03:21:39 AM
It's related to the back cover.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on July 22, 2013, 04:17:32 AM
I've been staring at the back coves for the past 5 minutes and have no idea what you mean :P for the record; I'm looking at three original releases; no reissues whatsoever. I'll have a go again in a couple of hours, I want to solve this one :P
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: aprilethereal on July 22, 2013, 04:22:55 AM
It's going to be pretty obvious if I post another hint, so I'm not sure :D
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Bolsters on July 22, 2013, 04:32:27 AM
The songs lengths, if taken as individual digits, all add up to 8?

ANTR: 16:10, 1+6+1=8
LITS: 12:05, 1+2+5=8
Another Day: 4:22, 4+2+2=8
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: aprilethereal on July 22, 2013, 04:44:45 AM
We have a winner! :clap:

Your turn.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Bolsters on July 22, 2013, 04:51:05 AM
I can't be bothered trying to think of one. Someone else can have my turn. :(
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on July 22, 2013, 04:57:24 AM
Elite steps in with a very easy one:

- Your Majesty
- Pull Me Under
- Enigma Machine

Go!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: MoraWintersoul on July 22, 2013, 05:25:45 AM
Second word starts with an M? :lol

I consider myself a) very knowledgeable when it comes to all sorts of DT trivia b) very good at making logical connections, but whenever I look at any of these, nothing comes to mind. :(
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on July 22, 2013, 05:28:44 AM
Well, it's either that or something related to their position in the tracklist, since we don't know anything about Enigma Machine.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on July 22, 2013, 05:31:57 AM
Second word starts with an M? :lol

Indeed :lol
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on July 22, 2013, 05:47:02 AM
Maaaaybe we should revert to tribonds that are about the song itself, rather than its title or its track number  ::)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on July 22, 2013, 05:52:39 AM
Well, the OP states it can be about anything, as long as it relates to the song. So I suppose titles count as well. However, this was just a quick step-in from me. Milena can post a better one. I like this game as it is, but I've always likes figuring things out. The fact that it can be about anything and everything only makes it more interesting I think.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: aprilethereal on July 22, 2013, 06:02:09 AM
I like this game as it is, but I've always likes figuring things out. The fact that it can be about anything and everything only makes it more interesting I think.

this
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: ? on July 24, 2013, 04:46:35 AM
Bump. Anyone got ideas for a new one?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: aprilethereal on July 24, 2013, 04:54:14 AM
Me, but it sucks.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on July 24, 2013, 05:26:34 AM
Go ahead. I have a sucky one if anyone wants to see it. You'll get it in no-time anyway.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: aprilethereal on July 24, 2013, 05:34:27 AM
Unfortunately I think a lot of people won't get this one. I told you it would suck ;D

Build Me Up, Break Me Down
The Count Of Tuscany
This Is The Life
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on July 24, 2013, 06:26:06 AM
All feature the title in the lyrics.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: aprilethereal on July 24, 2013, 07:29:34 AM
not what I had in mind
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Lucidity on July 24, 2013, 09:49:51 AM
All feature a section with no drumming?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: BlobVanDam on July 24, 2013, 09:50:19 AM
All feature a section WITH drumming?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: aprilethereal on July 24, 2013, 09:55:21 AM
All feature a section with no drumming?

nope



All feature a section WITH drumming?

That's quite a bold theory, blob.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on July 26, 2013, 11:04:12 AM
Is it related to the music itself or is it a little more obscure than that?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: aprilethereal on July 26, 2013, 11:14:58 AM
A little more obscure again, even more than the last one :D
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: bertoltus on August 04, 2013, 02:54:34 PM
Bump.

They're all about seven minutes long. Except CoT.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: aprilethereal on August 04, 2013, 02:57:42 PM
Nope. Maybe somebody could start a new one, I don't know, because mine is maybe a bit too ridiculous.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: bertoltus on August 04, 2013, 03:53:12 PM
Just give a cryptic hint. ;)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on August 04, 2013, 04:02:14 PM
Okay:

- Metropolis Pt. 1: The Miracle and the Sleeper
- The Root of All Evil
- Scarred

GO!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Sycsa on August 05, 2013, 03:48:47 AM
They all feature liquids:

Metropolis - Lake of fire
Scarred - Blood heal me
TROAE - Booze



 :lol
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on August 05, 2013, 03:53:58 AM
They all deal with events that could (metaphorically) seriously injure your skin:

- Lake Of Fire
- Keeps burning deep inside
- Maybe I'll leave them here and BURN!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: bertoltus on August 06, 2013, 03:14:22 PM
All of them feature a keyboard solo.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on August 08, 2013, 12:31:10 AM
All of them feature a keyboard solo.

:lol

To the other guesses; no, not correct. But it does have something to do with the lyrics. Good luck.

EDIT: You could swap out Metropolis for Lines in the Sand, if that makes it easier for you.
Meaning:

- Lines in the Sand
- Scarred
- The Root of All Evil
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Scorpion on August 08, 2013, 02:32:50 AM
They all contain the name of another Dream Theater song in the lyrics.

Lines in the Sand -> Stream of Consciouness
The Root of All Evil -> This Dying Soul
Scarred -> Never Enough
Metropolis -> The Dance of Eternity, Home
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on August 08, 2013, 02:36:57 AM
There we go, good job!

For the record, Metropolis contains 'The Dance of Eternity', but as the full song title is actually 'Scene Seven: I. The Dance of Eternity', that could be misleading (although it's basically always called The Dance of Eternity, like every song on Scenes, the 'Scene X' part rarely gets mentioned).
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Scorpion on August 08, 2013, 04:18:03 AM
Alright, how about this.

- To Live Forever '91
- The Best of Times
- The Count of Tuscany

Hint: it's stupid and too complex.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: GasparXR on August 08, 2013, 11:38:35 AM
Alright, how about this.

- To Live Forever '91
- The Best of Times
- The Count of Tuscany

Hint: it's stupid and too complex.

If you look at the year they were released, they were all released 9 years away from the year 2000.

TLF > 1991
TBOT and TCOT > 2009

:neverusethis:
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Scorpion on August 08, 2013, 12:41:18 PM
Nope.

Think live.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on August 08, 2013, 12:53:08 PM
Those songs have not been played live in the past 2 years.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Scorpion on August 08, 2013, 12:55:59 PM
Far more retarded.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on August 08, 2013, 12:58:51 PM
So, that makes it unguessable?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on August 08, 2013, 12:59:12 PM
- None have been released on a live dvd/album
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Scorpion on August 08, 2013, 01:00:57 PM
Nah, not unguessable.

It has something to do with their position on the albums they are on and live performances. That should be a clue enough.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on August 08, 2013, 01:07:15 PM
On the respective albums, the song before the songs in the tribond has never been played live.
Those songs would be:
- Don't Look Past Me
- The Shattered Fortress
- The Best of Times
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Scorpion on August 08, 2013, 01:09:50 PM
:tup

Maybe I gave away too much, but I was afraid that it would never get solved without it. You're up Rich!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on August 08, 2013, 01:16:21 PM
Easy one, for the hell of it:

- Trial of Tears
- In The Presence of Enemies, Pt. II
- False Awakening Suite
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Scorpion on August 08, 2013, 01:19:12 PM
Multiple movements within the song.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on August 08, 2013, 01:20:13 PM
Oh, you thought it was that easy?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Scorpion on August 08, 2013, 01:21:59 PM
Oh, you thought it was that easy?

Yeah, I did.

Instrumental part that's longer than two and half minutes?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Lucien on August 08, 2013, 01:25:49 PM
Multiparted songs shorter than 20 minutes?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on August 08, 2013, 01:29:44 PM
Instrumental part that's longer than two and half minutes?

HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS? :O

No, not what I was going for. We don't even know song lengths yet.

Multiparted songs shorter than 20 minutes?

Nah, I could have picked Octavarium instead of any track here and it wouldn't make a difference.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Scorpion on August 08, 2013, 01:30:51 PM
Instrumental part that's longer than two and half minutes?

HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS? :O

The track length was confirmed to be 2:42, and it's completely instrumental.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on August 08, 2013, 01:39:39 PM
Instrumental part that's longer than two and half minutes?

HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS? :O

The track length was confirmed to be 2:42, and it's completely instrumental.

Oh, I didn't know the length was confirmed, but I knew it was fully instrumental. So, although all guesses have been technically correct so far, none of them was what I was going for.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: aprilethereal on August 08, 2013, 01:48:57 PM
Three movements each?

EDIT: okay no, that doesn't work in Octavarium's case.

EDIT 2: uneven number of movements?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on August 08, 2013, 01:51:47 PM
Nor does it with ITPOE Pt. II
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: JonnyM93 on August 08, 2013, 04:19:13 PM
3 or 5 movements each?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on August 08, 2013, 04:54:13 PM
3 or 5 movements each?

That's hardly a unifying theme, is it? Especially considering ITPOE Pt. II has 4 movements.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: aprilethereal on August 08, 2013, 11:55:14 PM
 3 to 5 movements each :neverusethis:
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on August 09, 2013, 02:23:45 AM
No! :lol

Also, for clarification, Octavarium is not part of the Tribond, although it *could* be. It should be solveable with just Trial of Tears, False Awakening Suite and ITPOE II. It's a bit stupid, but I really didn't think it would be this hard :p
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: aprilethereal on August 09, 2013, 02:26:06 AM
At least one of the movements is instrumental?

EDIT: again, doesn't work in 8VM's case

EDIT 2: 3 movements + 5 movements = 8
nuggetz?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on August 09, 2013, 04:11:42 AM
At least one of the movements is instrumental?

Nope

EDIT: again, doesn't work in 8VM's case

Indeed.

EDIT 2: 3 movements + 5 movements = 8
nuggetz?

No. It's something that applies to all three in the Tribond separately - and if you will it can apply to Octavarium as well. 'Quatrobond'!
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on August 20, 2013, 07:37:20 AM
Anyone want to try this one still? Or should I reveal it?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: wasteland on August 20, 2013, 07:39:02 AM
Reveal :D
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on August 20, 2013, 08:12:56 AM
But that would kill it! :(


Really, it's not that hard at all! :P
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: aprilethereal on August 20, 2013, 09:07:33 AM
I'm pretty sure it has something to do with the movements, right?
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: GasparXR on September 26, 2013, 04:22:38 PM
To whoever posted the last round, do you still want people to guess, or can I go ahead and add a new one involving the new set of songs? :P
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Zyzzyva17 on September 26, 2013, 05:39:39 PM
As for a possible answer to the last round: all song titles bear similarity to an album title.

Trial of Tears = Train of Thought
In the Presence of Enemies, Pt. 2 = Metropolis, Pt. 2
False Awakening Suite = Awake
Octavarium = Octavarium

(I doubt this is the answer, but what the heck.)
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Elite on September 27, 2013, 08:32:30 AM
Oh wow, this thread has been dug up again :lol
And still unsolved!

It has something to do with the movements and their titles; nothing with the actual music.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Viking of the Sagas on September 27, 2013, 12:54:30 PM
Trial of Tears has 3 movements, ITPoE Pt.2 has 4 movements and FAS has 3 movements again.

Could it be that they all have instrumental sections in them? FAS is all instrumental, so it fits the bill.

Uhh... names... I really can't figure it out right now.

Maybe it's that ITPoE Pt.2 ends at the 6th movement, while both Trial of Tears and FAS add up to 6 movements?

Or they all start off really heavy and dark but then come into a lighter, happier ending? Not sure with Trial of Tears, tbh.

Well that's all for bad ideas today.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Lucien on September 27, 2013, 01:19:31 PM
He posted this before we knew what FAS sounded like
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: aprilethereal on September 27, 2013, 01:27:38 PM
He posted this before we knew what FAS sounded like

But we already knew it was an instrumental.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Zyzzyva17 on September 27, 2013, 01:37:39 PM
The final movements have 3 syllables in all of their names.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Lucien on September 27, 2013, 01:40:46 PM
The final movements have 3 syllables in all of their names.

And the third movements, actually.
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Lucien on September 27, 2013, 01:53:11 PM
ITPOE PT. 2
III -Heretic
IV -The Slaughter of the Damned
V -The Reckoning
VI -Salvation

FAS
I -Sleep Paralysis
II -Night Terrors
III -Lucid Dreams

TOT
I -It's Raining
II -Deep in Heaven
III -The Wasteland

8VM
I -Someone Like Him
II -Medicate
III -Full Circle
IV -Intervals
V -Razor's Edge

Hmmm...  :justjen
Title: Re: Tribond - Dream Theater edition
Post by: Viking of the Sagas on September 27, 2013, 02:05:53 PM
3 syllables in the third and final movements of each song. I think that's a good one.