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Title: So, I'm trying to watch predators.
Post by: Chino on September 12, 2011, 07:32:46 PM
I started watching about twenty minutes in. I have watched about twenty, maybe twenty five minutes so far. This movie is absolutely terrible. The only one of these movies I've seen before was AVP, which I didn't think was too bad. Are the other movies from this saga any good?
Title: Re: So, I'm trying to watch predators.
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 12, 2011, 07:33:47 PM
I thought Predators was better than AVP
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Post by: Adami on September 12, 2011, 07:36:33 PM
Isn't that the one with a clearly Brazilian girl playing an IDF soldier?

Yea, awful movie.


One of the major problems is if you can kill like 5 different predators, they're not scary anymore.
Title: Re: So, I'm trying to watch predators.
Post by: Zook on September 12, 2011, 07:37:06 PM
You've never seen Predator? WATCH IT NAO!!!!

The sequels are too shit.
Title: Re: So, I'm trying to watch predators.
Post by: Chino on September 12, 2011, 07:41:00 PM
Wait... Black guy from The Matrix has the to go invisible? I'm confused
Title: Re: So, I'm trying to watch predators.
Post by: ReaperKK on September 12, 2011, 07:43:06 PM
Are any of the preditor movies worth watching?
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Post by: Dimitrius on September 12, 2011, 07:43:25 PM
I liked more than the AVP films AND Predator 2.

Also, did this needed it's own thread?
Title: Re: So, I'm trying to watch predators.
Post by: Zook on September 12, 2011, 07:44:08 PM
Are any of the preditor movies worth watching?


Yes, the first one with Ahnuld. Predator 2 is boring, and the rest are just idiots making movies with a topic they know nothing about.
Title: Re: So, I'm trying to watch predators.
Post by: Chino on September 12, 2011, 07:51:02 PM
I liked more than the AVP films AND Predator 2.

Also, did this needed it's own thread?

I thought it did. I'd like to hear more about the movies. Not everyone goes in the movie thread. Star Wars, Avatar, and Harry Potter all have their own.
Title: Re: So, I'm trying to watch predators.
Post by: The King in Crimson on September 12, 2011, 08:09:12 PM
Predator 1 is a great, classic movie and well worth watching.

Predator 2 is... not bad. It's been a long time since I've seen it, but I seem to recall it being just kind of okay. Not up to par with the first movie, but certainly not terrible.

Predators was really disappointing and I'm not sure why, as I had fairly low expectations for it when I watched it.
Title: Re: So, I'm trying to watch predators.
Post by: ZBomber on September 12, 2011, 08:11:32 PM
I've never seen Alien OR Predator.

Hate away, boys.
Title: Re: So, I'm trying to watch predators.
Post by: The King in Crimson on September 12, 2011, 08:21:22 PM
I've never seen Alien OR Predator.

Hate away, boys.
(https://browntweedsociety.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/hudson-aliens.jpg)

Aliens > Alien > Predator > lol

Anyways, they all deserve to be seen. All are great movies.
Title: Re: So, I'm trying to watch predators.
Post by: ZBomber on September 12, 2011, 08:24:50 PM
I do plan on seeing all of them. Alien is next on my list since I'm going through the top 250 movies on IMDB.
Title: Re: So, I'm trying to watch predators.
Post by: Chino on September 12, 2011, 08:36:23 PM
That was such a boring ending. I was hoping an epic battle with like a dozen of the predators, not just one.
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Post by: Adami on September 12, 2011, 08:40:07 PM
That was such a boring ending. I was hoping an epic battle with like a dozen of the predators, not just one.

See, you missed the entire point of their species. Which isn't your fault, the movie missed it too. They're not fighters, they're hunters.
Title: Re: So, I'm trying to watch predators.
Post by: XianL on September 12, 2011, 08:43:47 PM
That was such a boring ending. I was hoping an epic battle with like a dozen of the predators, not just one.

See, you missed the entire point of their species. Which isn't your fault, the movie missed it too. They're not fighters, they're hunters.

Pretty much.

Did anyone see Predators....waaaait. I thought you were talking about Predator 2. Shit, you're saying PredatorS is shit? Noooo!
Title: Re: So, I'm trying to watch predators.
Post by: Chino on September 12, 2011, 08:45:46 PM
That was such a boring ending. I was hoping an epic battle with like a dozen of the predators, not just one.

See, you missed the entire point of their species. Which isn't your fault, the movie missed it too. They're not fighters, they're hunters.

No, I got that.  Humans are hunters as well. Whenever there is tough game, larger numbers are better. When our ancestors hunted mastodons we needed several people. You don't see two man crews crab fishing, or single men trying to steal a kill from a lion.
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Post by: Adami on September 12, 2011, 08:47:43 PM
Yes, but that's not how they operate, which is demonstrated in the other movies. They would allow one of their own to be killed by the prey and just observe. They have no desire for conquest, just hunting.
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Post by: Dimitrius on September 12, 2011, 08:52:30 PM
Yes, but that's not how they operate, which is demonstrated in the other movies. They would allow one of their own to be killed by the prey and just observe. They have no desire for conquest, just hunting.
That. And they learn what lead to the other's demise, adapt and become a better hunter.
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Post by: Adami on September 12, 2011, 08:56:36 PM
They really are a fascinating species, and I really wish they could get a movie written and directed by people who actually understand the essence of their race.

If they want to an AVP movie, they should have the predators put one of their own alone on a ship with aliens and see how he does. Maybe even two predators to give them a fighting chance, but that way there be no humans (hell probably even no dialogue in the whole movie) and it would be completely about the hunt of the predators and the conquest of the aliens. I guess if they want Sigourney Weaver can show up at the end and claim that there is only Zuul or something.
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Post by: Deadpool on September 13, 2011, 04:27:05 AM
I'll just leave this here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljEC7HKbP0g
Title: Re: So, I'm trying to watch predators.
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 13, 2011, 04:32:55 AM
I started watching about twenty minutes in. I have watched about twenty, maybe twenty five minutes so far. This movie is absolutely terrible. The only one of these movies I've seen before was AVP, which I didn't think was too bad. Are the other movies from this saga any good?
Why would you watch this without seeing the original?
Title: Re: So, I'm trying to watch predators.
Post by: El JoNNo on September 13, 2011, 06:30:20 AM
When I read predators in the thread title I immediately thought of pedophiles, then the move.  :lol
Title: Re: So, I'm trying to watch predators.
Post by: Chino on September 13, 2011, 10:48:23 AM
I started watching about twenty minutes in. I have watched about twenty, maybe twenty five minutes so far. This movie is absolutely terrible. The only one of these movies I've seen before was AVP, which I didn't think was too bad. Are the other movies from this saga any good?
Why would you watch this without seeing the original?

Because it was on one of the movie channels. It didn't even occur to me that it was one of the movies in the series until I recognized the thing from AVP. I turned it on as soon as they were showing the sky over that valley with all the planets and shit in the sky. That got my interest really quick. Seeing as I missed the beginning of the movie, how did all the random people get there? And I was confused about the character from that 70s show... Was he evil the entire movie, or just when he wanted the sniper girl to get killed instead of him?
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Post by: Adami on September 13, 2011, 10:59:40 AM
You didn t miss much. How did they get there? They literally just fell there around and topher being evil was the twist, it doesn't matter though. Like they needeed a humaan villian anyway.
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Post by: bout to crash on September 13, 2011, 01:07:20 PM
I love Adrien Brody but man I could not take his badass act seriously in this movie.
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Post by: MinistroRaven on July 19, 2018, 09:38:08 PM
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Title: Re: So, I'm trying to watch predators.
Post by: Phoenix87x on July 20, 2018, 02:27:43 AM
For anyone who has not seen the original predator with schwarzenegger, that's the one to watch, and the one that started it all. It will probably feel dated by today's standards, but its full of classic lines, classic scenes and was one of my favorite movies growing up.

Predator 2 was strongly disliked when it came out, but I'll take it anyday over the AVP films. I personally really like it, but its not for everyone.

Predators was ok, but reminded me a lot of the The Thing remake. It was marketed as its own thing, but is just a soft reboot that fails to recapture the excellence of the original.
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Post by: cramx3 on July 20, 2018, 06:10:14 AM
I recall kind of enjoying Predators, not that it was good, but I don't remember it being bad, but that was also awhile ago.  It might not have aged well at all because it was kind of a B movie at it's time.

Anyway, the original is the only "good" Predator movie.  The AVP movies were shit.

And if we continue, the Alien series, the first two were really good in that series and the rest were pretty much garbage.
Title: Re: So, I'm trying to watch predators.
Post by: Phoenix87x on July 20, 2018, 06:37:35 AM

And if we continue, the Alien series, the first two were really good in that series and the rest were pretty much garbage.

Totally agree. For anyone that is looking to explore the Alien series, check out the first Alien and its sequel Aliens. Those are rock solid, and worth watching for any fan of movies. After that, its just meh imo.
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Post by: gmillerdrake on July 20, 2018, 06:54:34 AM

And if we continue, the Alien series, the first two were really good in that series and the rest were pretty much garbage.

Totally agree. For anyone that is looking to explore the Alien series, check out the first Alien and its sequel Aliens. Those are rock solid, and worth watching for any fan of movies. After that, its just meh imo.

Yep. First two ALIEN movies are the only ones to concern yourself with seeing. The third one was ‘ok’ but just a horrible idea and way to follow one of the greatest....if not THE greatest sequel ever made.
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Post by: cramx3 on July 20, 2018, 06:59:21 AM

And if we continue, the Alien series, the first two were really good in that series and the rest were pretty much garbage.

Totally agree. For anyone that is looking to explore the Alien series, check out the first Alien and its sequel Aliens. Those are rock solid, and worth watching for any fan of movies. After that, its just meh imo.

Yep. First two ALIEN movies are the only ones to concern yourself with seeing. The third one was ‘ok’ but just a horrible idea and way to follow one of the greatest....if not THE greatest sequel ever made.

Yea, it could be the greatest sequel for a movie.  It's interesting how the first one was more horror (Ridley Scott) and the second was more action (James Cameron) and both have different feels to them, yet both are really good movies.  You don't really see that with movies and sequels.
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Post by: gmillerdrake on July 20, 2018, 05:06:09 PM
Brian.....I would make a good effort to watch ALIEN and ALIENS......maybe not back to back the same night but I’d watch them close together....perhaps alternate days.

ALIEN is the epitome of a suspense/horror and ALIENS is perfect as an action/thriller. Ridley Scott set a pretty creepy tone with ALIEN and kept that mood the whole way through. And As much as you like what Cameron did with AVATAR I think you’d love ALIENS....it still holds up strong all these years later. You can see Cameron really getting his feet underneath him in that one. Some of the best characters can be found in that movie also. ‘Hudson’ in particular could be my favorite character ever.



Predator holds up as well. Just watched it about a month ago and aside from the couple ‘cheesy’ obligatory Arnold line drops story and production are still solid. Predator 2 was entertaining as well....but nowhere near as good as the original.
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Post by: Cool Chris on July 20, 2018, 05:17:57 PM
Is this thread about Alien/Aliens now?

When I saw Alien the first time, it was not at all what my youthful mind wanted. There was no action, no adventure. When I revisited it years later, I realized I had viewed it improperly, and was then able to recognize it for the masterpiece it is.

I saw Aliens much later, knowing it was a much different movie, and thus was able to enjoy it, though don't hold it in as high regard as many others do. If I recall, Hudson is Bill Paxton's character. If so, he is go goddamn annoying. I get that it is character, but there is nothing funny or entertaining about him. If he were in my platoon, he would suffer the same fate as Doug Neidermeyer.

Never seen the other Alien movies, or any other Predator movie for that matter.
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Post by: gmillerdrake on July 20, 2018, 06:43:01 PM
Is this thread about Alien/Aliens now?

When I saw Alien the first time, it was not at all what my youthful mind wanted. There was no action, no adventure. When I revisited it years later, I realized I had viewed it improperly, and was then able to recognize it for the masterpiece it is.

I saw Aliens much later, knowing it was a much different movie, and thus was able to enjoy it, though don't hold it in as high regard as many others do. If I recall, Hudson is Bill Paxton's character. If so, he is go goddamn annoying. I get that it is character, but there is nothing funny or entertaining about him. If he were in my platoon, he would suffer the same fate as Doug Neidermeyer.

Never seen the other Alien movies, or any other Predator movie for that matter.

Not to start a debate but I whole heartedly disagree with you about Bill Paxton’s character, Hudson. Emphatically disagree to the point of perhaps starting a new thread dedicated to just rebutting your assertion  :lol
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Post by: Cool Chris on July 20, 2018, 07:02:34 PM
I accept the fact that I would be in the minority in that discussion, as everyone seems to fawn over that character. I also have not seen that movie in a long, long time. Maybe I would feel differently upon viewing it again. But not likely.
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Post by: Dream Team on July 21, 2018, 01:57:44 PM
Predator is a classic, iconic movie and not dated at all.
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Post by: Phoenix87x on July 21, 2018, 02:35:49 PM
GET TO THE CHOPPA!!!!!!!!!!!!!




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Post by: Dream Team on July 22, 2018, 04:26:09 PM
By the way, I’ve asked this before but who the hell watches movies out of order? Do people watch Iron Man 3 without seeing the original or The Force Awakens before the original trilogy? Never understood this.
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Post by: faizoff on July 22, 2018, 06:38:16 PM
I have an odd soft spot for Predators, there are definitely issues abound but overall I liked it. I thought it mostly captured the descent into the hopelessness of the first movie and I don't mind not having it being answered how the humans got there. The casting choices are rather peculiar but they didn't detract me.

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Post by: Adami on July 22, 2018, 07:00:39 PM
By the way, I’ve asked this before but who the hell watches movies out of order? Do people watch Iron Man 3 without seeing the original or The Force Awakens before the original trilogy? Never understood this.

People, in fact, do this.

It's the main reason I decided to become a psychologist. These people need help.
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Post by: CrimsonSunrise on August 03, 2018, 07:01:04 AM
Predator is a classic!  Great action film with really cool special effects (at the time).  I guess I could see how it seems dated, seeing it was made 31 years ago.  A lot of movies from that era seem dated.  For example... the last time I watched Scarface I could barely watch it.  The soundtrack was cheesy AF and the dialogue not much better.  That being said, when it was new back then it was EPIC!!
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Post by: bosk1 on August 06, 2018, 10:24:41 AM
At the risk of continuing the off-topic discussion...
ALIEN is the epitome of a suspense/horror and ALIENS is perfect as an action/thriller. Ridley Scott set a pretty creepy tone with ALIEN and kept that mood the whole way through.

Yes, but...have you ever watched the "director's cut" of Alien?  (I put "director's cut" in quotes because Scott feels very strongly that that term should not apply, and I can't remember what the extended version is actually called.  Or am I confusing that with the extended cut of Aliens, and that it was actually Cameron bristling at use of that term?  As I'm typing this out now, I realize that I can't remember which.  :lol  Anyway...)  It illustrates that his original vision for the film was just different enough that it in some ways changes the overall vibe of the film.  And in some ways, it also illustrates that his vision was, at times, kind of a mess.  I was in denial about this for SUCH a long time.  But Prometheus and Covenant, including the behind-the-scenes drama in recent years about the direction of the series as a whole, have kind of unintentionally hammered that point home for me.

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Post by: gmillerdrake on August 06, 2018, 11:40:29 AM
At the risk of continuing the off-topic discussion...
ALIEN is the epitome of a suspense/horror and ALIENS is perfect as an action/thriller. Ridley Scott set a pretty creepy tone with ALIEN and kept that mood the whole way through.

Yes, but...have you ever watched the "director's cut" of Alien?  (I put "director's cut" in quotes because Scott feels very strongly that that term should not apply, and I can't remember what the extended version is actually called.  Or am I confusing that with the extended cut of Aliens, and that it was actually Cameron bristling at use of that term?  As I'm typing this out now, I realize that I can't remember which.  :lol  Anyway...)  It illustrates that his original vision for the film was just different enough that it in some ways changes the overall vibe of the film.  And in some ways, it also illustrates that his vision was, at times, kind of a mess.  I was in denial about this for SUCH a long time.  But Prometheus and Covenant, including the behind-the-scenes drama in recent years about the direction of the series as a whole, have kind of unintentionally hammered that point home for me.

The extended directors cut of ALIENS doesn't really alter much for the movies 'feel'. Just some extra actions scenes from what I can remember.

I've only seen the extended cut of ALIEN once....a LONG time ago....and from what I remember a romance between Ripley and Dallas was heavily implied and there was a scene where Ripley found Dallas cocooned to a wall....still alive....but a chest burster came out. Basically the scene from ALIENS in the sub-station with the colonist.
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Post by: Phoenix87x on August 06, 2018, 03:08:22 PM
I feel the same about the Aliens director cut as I do about the T2 directors cut. The new scenes are neat to see once, but ultimately they just drag the film out. I typically will just watch the theatrical cut.
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Post by: bosk1 on August 06, 2018, 03:26:37 PM
The only ones I remember from Aliens were a couple of scenes near the beginning about the colonists discovering the ship and the results of that, which I thought actually added a lot to the story (although not knowing and having the mystery of how it all could have happened kept intact was just as valid).
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Post by: Dream Team on August 06, 2018, 06:58:10 PM
At the risk of continuing the off-topic discussion...
ALIEN is the epitome of a suspense/horror and ALIENS is perfect as an action/thriller. Ridley Scott set a pretty creepy tone with ALIEN and kept that mood the whole way through.

Yes, but...have you ever watched the "director's cut" of Alien?  (I put "director's cut" in quotes because Scott feels very strongly that that term should not apply, and I can't remember what the extended version is actually called.  Or am I confusing that with the extended cut of Aliens, and that it was actually Cameron bristling at use of that term?  As I'm typing this out now, I realize that I can't remember which.  :lol  Anyway...)  It illustrates that his original vision for the film was just different enough that it in some ways changes the overall vibe of the film.  And in some ways, it also illustrates that his vision was, at times, kind of a mess.  I was in denial about this for SUCH a long time.  But Prometheus and Covenant, including the behind-the-scenes drama in recent years about the direction of the series as a whole, have kind of unintentionally hammered that point home for me.

The extended directors cut of ALIENS doesn't really alter much for the movies 'feel'. Just some extra actions scenes from what I can remember.

I've only seen the extended cut of ALIEN once....a LONG time ago....and from what I remember a romance between Ripley and Dallas was heavily implied and there was a scene where Ripley found Dallas cocooned to a wall....still alive....but a chest burster came out. Basically the scene from ALIENS in the sub-station with the colonist.


Actually no chest-burster. The original concept was that prey was slowly and agonizingly transformed into eggs from which the face-huggers hatched.