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General => Movies and TV => Topic started by: JayOctavarium on August 18, 2011, 12:44:36 AM
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I know its been done...
Picard
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PICARRRRRDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love The Original Series, and Kirk, but Picard is the man. He proudly struts with that shiny bald head of his, instead of needing a rug to get through the day.
He can drink tea and comfort a child, and yet is still badass enough to tell the Borg to fuck off.
And Picard's custom jacket was more badass than Kirk's custom Captain shirt.
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Picard, no contest.
Though I'd dare to say Adama is the best, however keeping this strictly ST then it's obviously Picard.
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Bowl. Sorry to say, but I bet a Sith lord could easily slaughter the Earth and friends' best.
Though I've never watched ST; do any sites let you watch any of the ST series for free?
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Bowl. Sorry to say, but I bet a Sith lord could easily slaughter the Earth and friends' best.
Though I've never watched ST; do any sites let you watch any of the ST series for free?
you... dont know startrek?
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Bowl. Sorry to say, but I bet a Sith lord could easily slaughter the Earth and friends' best.
Though I've never watched ST; do any sites let you watch any of the ST series for free?
Please don't make this a SW vs ST debate. And obviously most humans aren't going to stand a chance against a mystical wizard like being with a light saber.
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Kirk. I prefer his style of command and find his philosophy more fascinating and relevant. I'm not trying to disparage Picard though. Anyone who calls him a French sissy is being unfair. Either of this options is a fine choice and I can respect it.
No one should vote Janeway though.
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Kirk is also the product of his time. I highly doubt he would have had much of a career in the 24th century.
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Holy Moses in a leaky birch bark canoe, it was a fucking ten dollar t-shirt at Target. I do NOT want the repurcussions of this discussion being laid on my head. FUCK!!!
Picard, solely because he fucking BECAME Borg, and still won.
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Holy Moses in a leaky birch bark canoe, it was a fucking ten dollar t-shirt at Target. I do NOT want the repurcussions of this discussion being laid on my head. FUCK!!!
Picard, solely because he fucking BECAME Borg, and still won.
He also got stabbed through the heart and laughed about it.
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Kirk is also the product of his time. I highly doubt he would have had much of a career in the 24th century.
He's very much a product of his time. Bossing bitches around, stealing love, and rolling up the prime directive and smoking it on graduation day from the academy just for some narrow minded idea of what a society has to be. I blame Bones. At least he had level headed Spock to keep him on the level.
That said, he said it felt good to be a gangsta.
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I'd like to get a count on how many alternate lives Picard actually lived, talk about acquired knowledge.
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Kirk is also the product of his time. I highly doubt he would have had much of a career in the 24th century.
I'm not sure this is fair. Two things:
- The mistake everyone makes when discussing Kirk is they think of the guy who liked to stick it in green women and not the guy who could have hundreds of lives put into his hands and make the right decisions. Kirk is intelligent and adaptable. You're really gonna just say he couldn't handle it?
- How well would Picard have handled Kirk's time? Things were more rough and tumble. Would Picard have tried to create order where no one would have accepted it? Would he have tried negotiation when force was necessary? We don't know because he wasn't there, but you can't rule these things out.
Kirk is also the product of his time. I highly doubt he would have had much of a career in the 24th century.
He's very much a product of his time. Bossing bitches around, stealing love, and rolling up the prime directive and smoking it on graduation day from the academy just for some narrow minded idea of what a society has to be.
These are thing things that make Kirk cool. Especially the prime directive part. God do I hate that thing.
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You misunderstood what I said. I never cared about Kirks womanizing stuff, that's whatever. But as a captain, he was the classic bad boy who followed orders when it suited him. That is what would have ended his career in the 24th century. Picard in the 23th century would have had a career, but he wouldn't have been nearly as notable.
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You misunderstood what I said. I never cared about Kirks womanizing stuff, that's whatever. But as a captain, he was the classic bad boy who followed orders when it suited him. That is what would have ended his career in the 24th century. Picard in the 23th century would have had a career, but he wouldn't have been nearly as notable.
Oh, now I see what you mean. Didn't Picard disobey orders in First Contact and Nemesis without losing his job though?
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You misunderstood what I said. I never cared about Kirks womanizing stuff, that's whatever. But as a captain, he was the classic bad boy who followed orders when it suited him. That is what would have ended his career in the 24th century. Picard in the 23th century would have had a career, but he wouldn't have been nearly as notable.
Oh, now I see what you mean. Didn't Picard disobey orders in First Contact and Nemesis without losing his job though?
Well everyone disobeys orders from time to time, I think it's Kirks attitude of "Piss off, I'm the star of the universe".
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Kirk is also the product of his time. I highly doubt he would have had much of a career in the 24th century.
He's very much a product of his time. Bossing bitches around, stealing love, and rolling up the prime directive and smoking it on graduation day from the academy just for some narrow minded idea of what a society has to be.
These are thing things that make Kirk cool. Especially the prime directive part. God do I hate that thing.
It just annoys me. They find some planet that is doing their own thing and happy with it, then Kirk comes in and decides they should live the "human" way, then shits upon their culture. Seriously, half of the planets he "saves" would be dead within a year because they just couldn't have functioned after Kirk had his way with them.
Sometimes the prime directive is obeyed to a fault seemingly against the spirit of the thing, but in general I prefer Picard's open mindedness to alternative cultures to Kirk's narrow minded '60s view of the universe. The show is very 1960s, and at times just makes me cringe. I still love it though. It's a lot of fun, despite it's severely dysfunctional crew.
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Well everyone disobeys orders from time to time, I think it's Kirks attitude of "Piss off, I'm the star of the universe".
But Kirk is the start of the universe.
More seriously, Kirk acted that way because other people allowed him to. In a more refined environment, I have a hard time believing he couldn't be crafty about it.
It just annoys me. They find some planet that is doing their own thing and happy with it, then Kirk comes in and decides they should live the "human" way, then shits upon their culture. Seriously, half of the planets he "saves" would be dead within a year because they just couldn't have functioned after Kirk had his way with them.
Sometimes the prime directive is obeyed to a fault seemingly against the spirit of the thing, but in general I prefer Picard's open mindedness to alternative cultures to Kirk's narrow minded '60s view of the universe. The show is very 1960s, and at times just makes me cringe. I still love it though. It's a lot of fun, despite it's severely dysfunctional crew.
I can't comment on this because frankly I'm not the most educated Trek viewer. I did see one example of this, but I blocked the episode out of my head.
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It just annoys me. They find some planet that is doing their own thing and happy with it, then Kirk comes in and decides they should live the "human" way, then shits upon their culture. Seriously, half of the planets he "saves" would be dead within a year because they just couldn't have functioned after Kirk had his way with them.
Sometimes the prime directive is obeyed to a fault seemingly against the spirit of the thing, but in general I prefer Picard's open mindedness to alternative cultures to Kirk's narrow minded '60s view of the universe. The show is very 1960s, and at times just makes me cringe. I still love it though. It's a lot of fun, despite it's severely dysfunctional crew.
I can't comment on this because frankly I'm not the most educated Trek viewer. I did see one example of this, but I blocked the episode out of my head.
I haven't seen them all yet, but it happens more in the more formulaic filler episodes, rather than the higher quality episodes that are more well known. To me it often feels like the old angel and devil conscience looming over the shoulder, with McCoy and Spock filling the roles. One of the reasons I strongly dislike McCoy at times.
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(https://creatingacomic.com/images/Picard-full-of-win.jpg)
Picard bitches.
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That picture badly needs a watermelon. Surely someone has done it.
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I haven't seen either of them often enough to make a decision I could stand behind.
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Picard. By the way, Bosk has more votes than Kirk...
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Picard. By the way, Bosk has more votes than Kirk...
(https://www.actionmoviefreak.com/images/Star-Trek/star-trek-KHAN.jpg)
BOOOOOSSSSSKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Who the fuck voted for Janeway? Picard would never have let Neelix join the crew, and Sisko would have just airlocked him.
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Neelix is cool. He's a giant space rat with a skullet and a shitty fashion sense. That is tv GOLD. GOLD I tells you!
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Xanatos
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The Bosko is in the wormhole isn't he?
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Xanatos
Jonathan Frakes FTW. And Gargoyles, too.
Gotta go with Picard, though.
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Picard. I do like Sisko quite a bit as well.
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Picard, however I voted for Sisko because he was a badass.
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Adama.
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Picard. By the way, Bosk has more votes than Kirk...
(https://www.actionmoviefreak.com/images/Star-Trek/star-trek-KHAN.jpg)
BOOOOOSSSSSKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!
:rollin :rollin
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Picard
Sisco/Archer
Rest are meh.
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Picard, however I voted for Sisko because he was a badass.
This.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QIsHQfKZ4g&feature=player_embedded
Yes its related. Wait for it........
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Easily Kirk, though I have nothing against Picard.
A couple of things to throw out there. Kirk in the 24th century was genuinely legendary. It says something that Sisko committed a felony just to get his autograph. Picard would have been well respected, but I don't see him commanding the same sense of awe that Kirk did a hundred years later.
Picard got to hide behind regs that prevented him from going on the majority of away missions. If Kirk didn't beam down, it was only because it was to an unpleasant place without any girls. In TNG, Riker got to be the action hero while Picard sat at home and asked him for trip reports.
Kirk was no less skillful in the qualities that make Picard a badass--which he is. Kirk could negotiate with anybody. He could bluff his way out of any situation. He was perfectly willing to blow the Enterprise to bits if the situation called for it. Actually, this is an interesting notion. What is a quality that Picard possesses that Kirk doesn't?
Lastly, I'm sure I can't be the only person who gets annoyed that every single pole or survey here has to have a joke option thrown in to skew the results. I'm cool with Bosk and all, but I'd like to have seen those 8 votes count towards one of the real options.
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I agree with everything El Barto just said. Kirk, for all those reasons.
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I voted bosk as 7/9's breasts were not an option.
Who's the tool that voted janeway?
Show thyself!!!
lol
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Xanatos
This guy knows where it's at.
Picard, but I voted Sisko because I'm such a DS9 homer.
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HEY I like Janeway....
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lol.
fine fine.
where's Pike?
And Riker.
And Sulu.
They all made captain at some point.
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(https://www.globalnerdy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/George-Takei-oh-my.jpg)
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Adama.
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HEY I like Janeway....
Janeway is n00b
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HEY I like Janeway....
Janeway is n00b
You're n00b
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Kirk All The Way!
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I honestly had trouble picking between Picard and Sisco. A lot has to do with the fact that I believe DS9 to be the best of all the Star Trek series.
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I agree with everything El Barto just said. Kirk, for all those reasons.
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https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1946421/
Have you guys watched this? Could be interesting.
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I really want to see it, but haven't yet. I read an interview with Shatner about it, and it sounds pretty interesting, especially that it covers every Trek captain, and not just Kirk.
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(https://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i238/hefdaddy42/motivation/jamestkirk.jpg)
(https://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i238/hefdaddy42/funny/CaptainPicardisamused.jpg)
They are both awesome. But I would vote for Picard.
(https://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i238/hefdaddy42/funny/stfuandgtfo.jpg)
(https://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i238/hefdaddy42/funny/picardhitit.jpg)
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lol.
fine fine.
where's Pike?
And Riker.
And Sulu.
They all made captain at some point.
Crusher too (USS Pasteur). And Data as well (in that episode where Tasha Yar is a Romulan).
rumborak
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I really want to see it, but haven't yet. I read an interview with Shatner about it, and it sounds pretty interesting, especially that it covers every Trek captain, and not just Kirk.
I just finished watching it, and well it's kinda of a let down.
It feel disjointed and a lot of is Shatner saying basically asking the other captains to tell him how awesome he is.
However, it was nice to see them all again, Patrick was great as well as Kate. Avery is a weird dude who seems like he is high on something.
If you're really into Trek, check it out, otherwise pass.
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I really like Bosk. :blush
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I really want to see it, but haven't yet. I read an interview with Shatner about it, and it sounds pretty interesting, especially that it covers every Trek captain, and not just Kirk.
I just finished watching it, and well it's kinda of a let down.
It feel disjointed and a lot of is Shatner saying basically asking the other captains to tell him how awesome he is.
However, it was nice to see them all again, Patrick was great as well as Kate. Avery is a weird dude who seems like he is high on something.
If you're really into Trek, check it out, otherwise pass.
I'm a big Trek fan, so I'd watch it just for the chance to see them talking about Trek. I'll even enjoy it if it is just Shatner talking about himself. :lol
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Where might one see it legally?
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bosk all the way, for the following reasons:
1. I can kick his a**
2. He can't talk his way around me, because I speak legal mumbo jumbo too
3. I can ban him at BdR and he can ban me at DTF, so that is canceled out
4. His love of not-so-good albums would rally most on the ship to my cause.
Winner.
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In all seriousness, I prefer Picard over them all, although I am a big fan of the underrated Sisko and Kirk is great. I love how all three have different styles. Sisko is the middle ground between the two.