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Title: What is the capacity of the venues Dream Theater are playing?
Post by: DreamerTV on August 02, 2011, 01:22:19 PM
As for Setlist, and for the love of statistics, here we can post attendance for each show. Of course it won't be the exact amount, but something near that would be nice to be known. Tell me if you're fine with that. :)
I'll start with Verona, Castello Scaligero

Jul 04, 2011    Rome, Italy Ippodromo Delle Capannelle   
Jul 05, 2011    Verona, Italy Castello Scaligero  Press said 7/8k   
Jul 06, 2011    Zurich, Switzerland Komplex 457   
Jul 08, 2011    Metz, France Sonisphere   
Jul 09, 2011    Loreley, Germany    Night of the Prog Festival   
Jul 10, 2011    Weert, The Netherlands Bospop Festival   
Jul 12, 2011    Moscow, Russia Crocus City Hall   
Jul 14, 2011    Kiev, Ukraine Sports Palace   
Jul 16, 2011    Madrid, Spain Sonisphere   
Jul 17, 2011    Porto, Portugal   Coliseum of Porto   
Jul 19, 2011    Israel, Tel Aviv Exhibition Grounds   
Jul 22, 2011    Leeds, UK    Leeds Academy   
Jul 23, 2011    Wolverhampton, UK Wolverhampton Civic   
Jul 24, 2011    Victoria Park, London, Uk High Voltage Festival   
Jul 27, 2011    Vienna, Austria Gasometer   
Jul 28, 2011    Katowice, Poland    Spode   
Jul 29, 2011    Mala Skala, Czech Republic Benatska Noc Festival
Jul 31, 2011    Lokeren, Belgium Lokerse Festival   
Aug 02, 2011    Athens, Greece   Terra Vibe Park   
Aug 04, 2011    Hungary Fezen Festival   
Title: Re: Dream Theater Concerts Attendance
Post by: DreamerTV on August 03, 2011, 07:08:43 AM
For indoor venues actually is quite easy: starting from the capacity and watching how much of the venue is full, or ampty, you can have an idea (ex. Kiev Palace Sport capacity 10k, watching a video from YT, and reading comments from people who were there, for DT i guess there were 2k) For outdoor, as i said, we can't have the exactly amount, but to have an idea it's not that hard (for Villafranca, it was an outdoor venue: Rammstein sold out it last year with 15k. For DT it was more than half full so i guess, and then i read it in the press, the attendence was something aroud 7/8k)
Title: Re: Dream Theater Concerts Attendance
Post by: edu on August 03, 2011, 08:34:39 AM
There were about 40.000 people in Sonisphere in Madrid, but Iron Maiden, Mastodon, Twisted Sister... were playing there too, so...
Title: What's the capacity of the venues DT are playing?
Post by: Lotion on September 28, 2011, 08:07:27 AM
I was just wondering, the size of the venue seems to vary a lot.

2011-09-24 - Warfield Theater - San Francisco, CA - 2,300
2011-09-25 - Nokia Theater - Los Angeles, CA - 7,100
2011-09-27 - Moore Theatre - Seattle, WA - 1,419
2011-09-28 - Queen Elizabeth Theatre - Vancouver, BC - 2,929
2011-09-30 - Kingsbury Hall - Salt Lake City, UT - 1,992
2011-10-02 - Rosemont Theatre - Chicago, IL - 4,300
2011-10-03 - Music Theatre - Royal Oak, MI   
2011-10-04 - Trib Total Media Amphitheatre - Pittsburgh, PA - 5,000   
2011-10-06 - Massey Hall - Toronto, ON - 2,752       
2011-10-07 - Place des Arts - Montréal, QC   - 2,900
2011-10-08 - Pavilion de la Jeunesse - Quebec City, QC - 6,000
2011-10-10 - Orpheum Theatre - Boston, MA
2011-10-11 - Mayo Performing Arts Center - Morristown, NJ1,302
2011-10-12 - Beacon Theatre - New York City, NY - 2,894
2011-10-15 - Palace Theatre - Albany, NY - 2,844
2011-10-16 - Merriam Theatre - Philadelphia, PA - 1,870
2011-10-17 - Warner Theatre - Washington, DC - 1,800
2011-10-19 - The Tabernacle - Atlanta, GA - 2,600
2011-10-21 - Pompano Beach Amphitheater - Pompano Beach, FL       
2011-10-22 - Ruth Eckerd Hall - Clearwater, FL - 2,180   
2011-10-23 - Hard Rock Live - Orlando, FL   
2011-10-25 - Verizon Wireless Theater - Houston, TX - 2,400
2011-10-26 - Bass Concert Hall - Austin, TX - 2,900   
2011-10-27 - Verizon Theatre at Grand Prairie - Dallas, TX - c. 3,000 


2nd European Leg

2012-01-23 - Ice Hall - Helsinki, FIN - 10,200
2012-01-25 - Hovet, Stockholm, SWE - 9,800
2012-01-26 - Valhall - Oslo, NOR - 13,000
2012-01-27 - Valby Hallen- Copenhagen, DEN - 5,000
2012-01-29 - Arena Hall - Poznań, POL - 5,500
2012-01-30 - Columbiahalle - Berlin, GER- 3,500
2012-02-01 - IJsselhallen - Zwolle, NED
2012-02-02 - Mitsubishi Electric-Halle - Dusseldorf, GER - 7,500
2012-02-03 - Le Zénith - Paris, FRA - 6,293
2012-02-05 - AWD Hall - Hannover, GER - 5,500
2012-02-06 - Stadthalle - Offenbach, GER - 3,000
2012-02-08 - Clyde Auditorium - Glasgow, UK - 3,000
2012-02-09 - O2 Apollo - Manchester, UK - 3,500
2012-02-10 - Wembley Arena - London, UK - 12,500
2012-02-12 - Rockhal - Esch-sur-Alzette, LUX - 6,500
2012-02-13 - Liederhalle - Stuttgart, GER
2012-02-14 - Sportzentrum Tagerhard - Wettingen, SUI
2012-02-17 - Sportaréna - Budapest, HUN - 12,500
2012-02-18 - Gasometer - Vienna, AUT - c. 2,500
2012-02-20 - Palasport - Pordenone, ITA - 4,500
2012-02-21 - Mediolanum Forum - Milan, ITA - 12,000
2012-02-22 - Palaevangelisti - Perugia, ITA - 5,500
2012-02-24 - Palau St Jordi - Barcelona, ESP - c. 14,000
2012-02-25 - Palacio Vistalegre - Madrid, ESP - 15,000
2012-02-26 - Coliseum - Lisbon, POR
Title: Re: What's the capacity of the venues DT are playing?
Post by: bondrkm on September 28, 2011, 08:42:34 AM
2011-09-27 - Moore Theatre - Seattle, WA
According their website, the Moore holds 1419 people.  I'd say from the looks of it last night, it was full.
Title: Re: What's the capacity of the venues DT are playing?
Post by: Samsara on September 28, 2011, 08:45:52 AM
The Warfield in San Francisco is 2,250. It was NOT full, the corners of the balcony were empty. I'm guessing DT had about 1,900 at the show.
Title: Re: What's the capacity of the venues DT are playing?
Post by: El Barto on September 28, 2011, 09:07:31 AM
If memory serves correctly,  Nextstage (which they're now calling Verizon somethingoranother) holds 6k+, but they sell it as a half venue.  DT usually sell's about a third of it.  For these shows they don't sell the balcony or the sections furthest to the side. 

(https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/905/10m/origin.media.ticketmaster.com/tm/en-us/tmimages/venue/maps/dal/11332s_a.gif)

Not real sure why they do that here.  HOB is the perfect size for them (and has phenomenal sound), but it's SRO only, so I guess they prefer Nextstage.  Still, there are other options, so they seem to have an affinity for it.

The Austin show is at a college auditorium, that seats 2900.

Houston's Verizon looks to hold 2400. 
Title: Re: What's the capacity of the venues DT are playing?
Post by: cyberdrummer on September 28, 2011, 09:44:01 AM
I've updated the list in the OP with findings from a quick bit of research. Pretty big difference between the US and Europe.
Title: Re: What's the capacity of the venues DT are playing?
Post by: El Barto on September 28, 2011, 09:47:14 AM
How did you arrive at 2.5k for Verizon Dallas?
Title: Re: What's the capacity of the venues DT are playing?
Post by: ResultsMayVary on September 28, 2011, 09:48:58 AM
How did the KB Hallen burn down in Copenhagen and has there been any news on the switch?
Title: Re: What's the capacity of the venues DT are playing?
Post by: cyberdrummer on September 28, 2011, 09:50:22 AM
https://www.cphpost.dk/news/national/88-national/52219-fire-destroys-kb-hallen-before-sex-fair-opening.html

El Barto, I must have misunderstood your post. What is the capacity in Dallas?
Title: Re: What's the capacity of the venues DT are playing?
Post by: DreamerTV on September 28, 2011, 10:32:24 AM
Palasport - Pordenone, ITA 4500
Palaevangelisti - Perugia, ITA 5500
Title: Re: What's the capacity of the venues DT are playing?
Post by: El Barto on September 28, 2011, 10:50:37 AM
https://www.cphpost.dk/news/national/88-national/52219-fire-destroys-kb-hallen-before-sex-fair-opening.html

El Barto, I must have misunderstood your post. What is the capacity in Dallas?
Difficult to say.  Official capacity is 6,350.  The balcony isn't available for this show, but they don't offer production specs on their website so I have no idea what the floor capacity is.  Also,  there won't be anybody sitting in the side sections, but I don't know if they're officially available or not.  Your 2500 is probably close,  but there's really no way to tell without seeing the specs.  I was just wondering if you had something more concrete.
Title: Re: What's the capacity of the venues DT are playing?
Post by: cyberdrummer on September 28, 2011, 10:53:28 AM
No, just a guesstimate really. I'll stick with c. 3,000 for now.
Title: Re: What's the capacity of the venues DT are playing?
Post by: Lotion on September 28, 2011, 02:28:15 PM
I've updated the list in the OP with findings from a quick bit of research. Pretty big difference between the US and Europe.

Thanks!

I'm suprised that one of the biggest venues they're playing is in norway. Considering the population is almost the same as just in LA.
Title: Re: What's the capacity of the venues DT are playing?
Post by: jingle.boy on September 28, 2011, 02:45:54 PM
One of the possible functions is the limit of outdoor venues.  For the past few tours, they've hit the Molson Amphitheatre in Toronto, which is 7000 seated, and another 7000-8000 open field seating.  They usually fill the seated tickets.

Given it's October, kinda cool (temperature) to do an outdoor evening concert.  There aren't too many indoor venues with the appropriate logistics and accoustics other than 3000 seaters, and then the Air Canada Centre at 16,000+.
Title: Re: What's the capacity of the venues DT are playing?
Post by: Madman Shepherd on September 28, 2011, 03:06:07 PM
The Riverside Theatre in Milwaukee where they usually play can hold 2,460 people and usually the upper part of the balcony is empty so i would say they average 2000 fans there. 
Title: Re: What's the capacity of the venues DT are playing?
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on September 28, 2011, 05:50:28 PM
In USA cities, they play 2k-3k shows mostly.

When they go to other countries, like Mexico, they play bigger venues because they just play one or two cities per country instead of 20 in the USA. For example, everytime they come down to Mexico they play the National Auditorium, which holds 10,000 people.
Title: Re: What's the capacity of the venues DT are playing?
Post by: Resonate on September 28, 2011, 06:13:24 PM
Nokia Theatre in LA holds 7100.  Really cool venue.

https://www.nokiatheatrelalive.com/content.php?section=about&page=introduction
Title: Re: What's the capacity of the venues DT are playing?
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on September 28, 2011, 06:45:11 PM
That's probably one of the biggest venues they'll play in the US.
Title: Re: What's the capacity of the venues DT are playing?
Post by: Madman Shepherd on September 28, 2011, 06:57:15 PM
Wow, how full was Nokia?
Title: Re: What's the capacity of the venues DT are playing?
Post by: ytsejamer1993 on September 28, 2011, 06:59:54 PM
Hello,

Pavillon de la jeunesse, Quebec City: up to 6 000 (reference: https://www.expocite.com/www/pavillon-jeunesse.php)

Place des arts, Montreal: 2 990 (reference: https://pda.qc.ca/infos/informations-pratiques/nossalles/wilfrid-pelletier.en.html)
Title: Re: What's the capacity of the venues DT are playing?
Post by: kefka on September 28, 2011, 07:08:34 PM
Warner Theater in Washington, D.C. is 1800 seats.
Title: Re: What's the capacity of the venues DT are playing?
Post by: Hoppipolla on September 28, 2011, 07:13:53 PM
2011-09-27 - Moore Theatre - Seattle, WA
According their website, the Moore holds 1419 people.  I'd say from the looks of it last night, it was full.

The second balcony was only 1/3rd full. I'd say there were about 1100 people there last night or so.
Title: Re: What's the capacity of the venues DT are playing?
Post by: mocool13 on September 29, 2011, 12:25:37 AM
Damn that sucks for the January 27 date in Copenhagen. For Danish DT fans' sake and for DT themselves, I hope they find a replacement venue
Title: Re: What's the capacity of the venues DT are playing?
Post by: Chrissalix on September 30, 2011, 06:37:07 AM
Columbiahalle Berlin is 3.5k.
Title: Re: What's the capacity of the venues DT are playing?
Post by: AtmosphericV on September 30, 2011, 08:51:00 AM
Wow I wasn't aware that DT plays so small venues in the US.
Title: Re: What's the capacity of the venues DT are playing?
Post by: Banny on September 30, 2011, 09:28:02 AM
Wow I wasn't aware that DT plays so small venues in the US.

Honestly, I consider it to be a treat. Small venues are so personal.  :)
Title: Re: What's the capacity of the venues DT are playing?
Post by: Podaar on September 30, 2011, 11:11:47 AM
According to the PDF linked from Kingsbury Hall's website, seating capacity is 1900 or 1992 depending on if they include the orchestra pit.

https://www.kingsburyhall.org/default.asp?lnopt=7&sn1opt=4&sn2opt=1&month=2&year=2007&newsID=0&vw=lst&hpb=1
Title: Re: What's the capacity of the venues DT are playing?
Post by: Spitfire on September 30, 2011, 01:49:08 PM
Kingsbury Hall - Salt Lake City, UT - 3,000
Title: Re: What's the capacity of the venues DT are playing?
Post by: johncal on September 30, 2011, 07:50:23 PM
Merriam-philly 1870
Title: Re: What's the capacity of the venues DT are playing?
Post by: MetalJens on September 30, 2011, 11:28:44 PM
I'm suprised that one of the biggest venues they're playing is in norway. Considering the population is almost the same as just in LA.

Not even that :P We are around 5 million people.

However, DT usually play at a somewhat smaller (9,000) venue here, but I believe that was already booked for the date DT wanted it this time. I've been to their last four shows in Norway and usually they draw around 5,000, so they are not going to sell out the 13k arena  :sadpanda:
Title: Re: What's the capacity of the venues DT are playing?
Post by: MetalJens on September 30, 2011, 11:33:34 PM
Damn that sucks for the January 27 date in Copenhagen. For Danish DT fans' sake and for DT themselves, I hope they find a replacement venue

They did.. but it's not as nice as the one that burnt down :(

I was at a concert there six months ago and it was a really nice concert hall, so it kinda sucks they don't get to play there  :sadpanda:
Title: Re: What's the capacity of the venues DT are playing?
Post by: Rob801 on September 30, 2011, 11:43:11 PM
It's Valby Hallen and I read that it can hold 5000 (on a concert hall Wiki) in case the OP wants to update the list :).
Unfortunately I also read that the sound isn't as good as at KB Hallen so I guess I'll be hanging out around the sound board that night ;).
Title: Re: What's the capacity of the venues DT are playing?
Post by: Derango on October 02, 2011, 06:25:52 AM
The Palace Theater in albany holds 2,844
The Mayo Performing Arts Center in NJ seats 1,302
Title: Re: What's the capacity of the venues DT are playing?
Post by: Lotion on October 02, 2011, 05:13:15 PM
I'm suprised that one of the biggest venues they're playing is in norway. Considering the population is almost the same as just in LA.

Not even that :P We are around 5 million people.

However, DT usually play at a somewhat smaller (9,000) venue here, but I believe that was already booked for the date DT wanted it this time. I've been to their last four shows in Norway and usually they draw around 5,000, so they are not going to sell out the 13k arena  :sadpanda:

According to Wiki there's about 4million people in LA. Anyways, Oslo Spektrum takes around 8000 people, and they usually end up between 5,500 and 7,000 people. I don't see how they would be anywhere near selling out Valhall, they also increased the ticketprice with 150 kroner(30$). I hope they will set up lots of beer and merchandise stands to fill the empty space, so it doesn't look so empty at the concert.
Title: Re: What's the capacity of the venues DT are playing?
Post by: dongringo on October 02, 2011, 08:12:46 PM
According to Wiki there's about 4million people in LA.

You're looking at LA city limits only which is a very small part of the Metropolitan area, which in 2009 had a population of 17.6 million, which makes it the second largest city in the U.S. Take a look at an LA map. They don't call it the endless suburb for nothing.  ;)
Title: Re: What's the capacity of the venues DT are playing?
Post by: Zoom E on October 02, 2011, 09:52:57 PM
The Queen Elizabeth Theatre in Vancouver has a maximum capacity of 2,929. The show was not sold out, but at a guess I'd say it was at around 80% of it's capacity for the DT show.
Title: Re: What's the capacity of the venues DT are playing?
Post by: Lotion on October 03, 2011, 08:32:10 AM
According to Wiki there's about 4million people in LA.

You're looking at LA city limits only which is a very small part of the Metropolitan area, which in 2009 had a population of 17.6 million, which makes it the second largest city in the U.S. Take a look at an LA map. They don't call it the endless suburb for nothing.  ;)

Yeah, American geography is not my thing. Was just thinking of comparing LA's population to Norway's, and that's what wiki said. My bad!
Title: Re: What's the capacity of the venues DT are playing?
Post by: Podaar on October 03, 2011, 02:34:47 PM
Kingsbury Hall in SLC should be corrected to 1992

See the link referenced in this post:
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=28340.msg1083825#msg1083825
Title: Re: What's the capacity of the venues DT are playing?
Post by: DreamerTV on October 06, 2011, 05:33:20 AM
Both Balboa Theater and Mesa Arts Center got 1,600 seats.
Title: Re: What's the capacity of the venues DT are playing?
Post by: AtmosphericV on October 11, 2011, 06:13:57 PM
wow crazy small venues!!! Hey I thought they had fans in the US!
Title: Re: What's the capacity of the venues DT are playing?
Post by: AtmosphericV on October 11, 2011, 06:20:53 PM
why dont they play at Radio City Music Hall in NY??