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General => Movies and TV => Topic started by: Dimitrius on July 18, 2011, 11:51:54 AM
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With Captain America being released this week, the road to the Avengers is complete.
So I thought this would be a good thread to speculate about the movies, post information, and just discuss them.
If anybody has any question, the movies that are a part of this universe are:
Iron Man
The Incredible Hulk
Iron Man 2
Thor
Captain America: The First Avenger
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I love it. The idea of all of these movies being interconnected is pretty damn awesome.
And most of the movies are great. Iron Man 2 could have been better, but I loved the rest. However I really wish they could have had some cross overs with X-Men or FF or something, but damn those rights issues.
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I really hope that Avengers is, not only a great movie, but a financial success, that would be great for movies overall.
Also, I think Iron Man 2 gets a lot of hate because the middle part of it became very Avengers heavy, but I still like the movie a lot!
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I really hope that Avengers is, not only a great movie, but a financial success, that would be great for movies overall.
Also, I think Iron Man 2 gets a lot of hate because the middle part of it became very Avengers heavy, but I still like the movie a lot!
No, I just got annoyed at the whole party scene, where he fights Rodie and such. Just................bad stuff. I didn't mean the Captain shield or anything.
I like tons of references, so I'm fine with avengers heavy stuff.
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However I really wish they could have had some cross overs with X-Men or FF or something, but damn those rights issues.
Secret wars?
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I'd just like to give Sony a big fuck you for probably ruining any chance at ever having a Spider-man cross over.
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I'd just like to give Sony a big fuck you for probably ruining any chance at ever having a Spider-man cross over.
Oh yea them too. Seriously, all Marvel movies should be crossover material.
I would have loved to see Hugh Jackman in Captain America.
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I wanna see Spider-man with the X-men like in the cartoon when he goes to Professor X for help about his mutation.
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I wanna see Spider-man with the X-men like in the cartoon when he goes to Professor X for help about his mutation.
I think this proves that humanity must find a way to stop Patrick Stewart or Ian Mckellan from aging.
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They already have.
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I really hope that Avengers is, not only a great movie, but a financial success, that would be great for movies overall.
Also, I think Iron Man 2 gets a lot of hate because the middle part of it became very Avengers heavy, but I still like the movie a lot!
No, I just got annoyed at the whole party scene, where he fights Rodie and such. Just................bad stuff. I didn't mean the Captain shield or anything.
Well, yeah, I should've made cleared that some of the hate is deserving.
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So if you haven't seen Thor, this post should be ignored.
SPOILERS AHEAD!
So, how do you think the Cosmic Cube fits into the Avengers? I was talking to Harry over FB chat and I kinda made a rough outline of what may happen on the Avengers. The Cosmic Cube will appear on Captain America, I'm guessing that's what's giving Red Skull his power. So, for the Avengers, Hulk is currently under arrest by SHIELD. Jane Foster finishes her theory on wormhole, makes one, and connects it to Asgard, that's how Thor comes back to Earth. Under Loki's influence (as shown in the post-credit scene of Thor), Selvig begins studying the Cosmic Cube and somehow taps into its power, when this happens Loki steals the cube and begins destroying Earth. Iron Man, Captain America and Thor all face off against him, individually, and get stomped. They band together and get stomped again, so what do they do? They bring in Hulk as a necessary evil and finally beat Loki, and in some kind of scene, the audience finds out that Loki was working with Thanos (Avengers 2 set!).... roll credits.
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Pretty sure.....
Possible spoilers....
That Avengers is going to deal with the Kree Skrull war. Not sure why I think that, but I could have sworn I read it.
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See, I don't see why you can think that. They haven't made any sort of reference to that.
But they have talked (and shown props) of the Cosmic Cube and the Infinity Gauntlet.
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See, I don't see why you can think that. They haven't made any sort of reference to that.
But they have talked (and shown props) of the Cosmic Cube and the Infinity Gauntlet.
Oh I know the Cube is a major part. I'm going to look to see if I can find why in the hell I think it's about the Kree Skrull war.
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I cannot wait for the Avengers movie, because Joss Whedon is writing/directing it, and he can do no wrong. Well, except for Dollhouse, but no one remembers that anyways. Still, I'm excited. I missed Thor in theaters (not sure how...) but I WILL be seeing Cap's movie. He's always been one of the greatest Marvel characters and I'm very curious to see if Chris Evans can pull it off, since it seems he hasn't done anything serious in his entire career.
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I love the Marvel-comics, and I will most likely check Avengers out.
However, Spider-Man and X-Men are really the only comics I really liked, the rest were cool, but I wasn't as into them as with the other two.
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Don't forget this is also going to have Hawkeye (he was seen in Thor).
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Don't forget this is also going to have Hawkeye (he was seen in Thor).
YES! I'm looking forward to some good Clint action.
I mean, Ant Man and Wasp would be nice too, but I know they're not realistic.
But Black Panther could be possible.
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I'm also wondering how they work the Hulk into it. I can't remember but somehow Bruce Banner figures out at some point that he can be the Hulk with BB's mind. I'm thinking that won't be in the first Avengers but I hope they somehow work that in.
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Let's not forget Black Widow! mmmmm Scarlett Johanssen
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Love all the movies so far. Captain America looks amazing, so the weekend can't come quick enough. Also looking forward to The Avengers, but simply put, 2012 is the mother of all years for comic book films, that will possibly even out-do 2011: Dark Knight Rises, Man of Steel, Amazing Spider-Man, Avengers etc.
I'm also hoping Avengers marks the first time that I give a shit about something Joss Whedon has done. The guy is terribly over-rated hack, so I'm praying he doesn't screw up the biggest event in comic movie history.
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The guy is terribly over-rated hack, so I'm praying he doesn't screw up the biggest event in comic movie history.
Buffy the Vampire Slayer (1992) – writer
Speed (1994) – co-writer (uncredited)
The Getaway (1994) – co-writer (uncredited)
Waterworld (1995) – co-writer (uncredited)
Toy Story (1995) – co-writer
Alien Resurrection (1997) – writer
Titan A.E. (2000) – co-writer
X-Men (2000) – treatment (uncredited)
Atlantis: The Lost Empire (2001) – treatment
Serenity (2005) – writer and director
The Avengers (2012) – co-writer and director[24]
If Waterworld is the only movie from that list you've seen, I could understand your statement. Seems to be the only huge mark against him.
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Joss Whedon gets an eternal free pass based on two words.
1. Firefly.
2. Serenity.
I'm fine with him doing whatever.
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I'm also wondering how they work the Hulk into it. I can't remember but somehow Bruce Banner figures out at some point that he can be the Hulk with BB's mind. I'm thinking that won't be in the first Avengers but I hope they somehow work that in.
Well, the last shot of The Incredible Hulk (Banner meditating, turning into the Hulk and smiles to the camera) was left kinda ambiguous for a reason. If they were gonna do another Hulk, or bring him into Avengers as a good guy, then that shot meant that Banner has control over his transformation. If they were gonna bring him as a bad guy in Avengers, then that shot meant that he was gonna blow some shit up!
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Mathew Murdock would like a word with you all in private.
His movie was the best them.
(snicker)
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Joss Whedon gets an eternal free pass based on two words.
1. Firefly.
2. Serenity.
I'm fine with him doing whatever.
This times a quadrillion
Also, from the OP, I've only seen Iron Man. Definitely need to catch up on this junk.
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Must we get into this? Whedon was one of about 12 writers for Toy Story, so don't go wetting your pants. Buffy sucks shit. Always has, always will. Whedon's ENTIRE polish of X-Men was THROWN out for being trash. Only one line stayed in the film and its the worst line in the entire franchise (Take a guess which one)! I like Alien Resurrection, but even his dumb ass hates it, stating the director completely missed the point. Everything else is uncredited rewrites for a reason. His contributions didn't warrant him a credit by the writer's guild standard. People need to stop being puppets and worshipping the ground he walks on.
Oh yeah, his comics SUCK.
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Oh boy the 'ol Darkes7 argument of "you like this popular guy you must be sheeple!" Only now its puppets. Oh how times change. :P
Firefly and Serenity were enough to make me a Joss Whedon fanboy. The man knows how to work with an ensemble cast. Even in Serenity, which I saw in theaters with no knowledge of Firefly or its history, I was able to connect with every character. None of them seemed like a "throwaway" character the way most mutants in X3, Wolverine, and First Class were. So I have full faith that he can do the Avengers justice on the screen. I've seen Buffy the show, its pretty good (though I haven't made it past season 1. I've heard it gets better). He was one of four writers for Toy Story according to wikipedia. His Astonishing X-Men comics are very good. The man can write for a lot of characters and write for them well.
I can see someone calling him overrated, sure, but a hack? Not at all. He's a very talented person. Dollhouse is my only mark against him.
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I actually liked Dollhouse, though I never got around to seeing season 2.
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Whedon's ENTIRE polish of X-Men was THROWN out for being trash. Only one line stayed in the film and its the worst line in the entire franchise (Take a guess which one)!
Actually, there are two. The one you are referring to, and the best line in the whole movie:
[Cyclops thinks Wolverine may be the shape-shifting mutant Mystique]
Wolverine: Hey, hey- it's me!
Cyclops: Prove it.
Wolverine: You're a dick.
Cyclops: [pauses, considering] Okay.
I actually liked Dollhouse, though I never got around to seeing season 2.
Except for the first few episodes, which had a lot of studio interference, I thought Dollhouse was great.
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Joss isn't responsible for that line from Storm to Toad is he?
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That was apparently meant to be tongue in cheek, but Halle Berry played it a tad seriously.
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That was apparently meant to be tongue in cheek, but Halle Berry played it a tad seriously.
Which is why it comes off as a bad line rather than a funny one, I think.
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Also Halle dropped her accent. Why?
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Probably because she's not that great an actress.
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Probably because she's not that great an actress.
That's where I was leading to.
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Bryan Singer had actors drop accents for the sequel. Not sure why. Make it easier I guess.
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Who besides Storm? Rouge has a natural southern accent, and I can't remember anyone else with one.
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Anna Paquin's accent is actually New Zealand. And Obviously Hugh Jackman is Australian. For some reason that region seems to be able to pull off American accents fine where as the reversal isn't always true :P
As for who else...I lied. I can't remember who else I was thinking of :lol
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LIAR! /Jennifer Garner's horrible acting
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She was doing an accent on DD?
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No that line was just executed horribly.
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Anna Paquin's accent is actually New Zealand. And Obviously Hugh Jackman is Australian. For some reason that region seems to be able to pull off American accents fine where as the reversal isn't always true :P
You know that's so true. Sometimes I forget that Hugh Jackman is Australian. He does the American accent so well.
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So the new Avengers trailer is pretty cool.
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https://gizmodo.com/5822377/the-avengers-trailer-leaked-and-its-rad
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https://gizmodo.com/5822377/the-avengers-trailer-leaked-and-its-rad
I found one last night that was slightly better quality than that. Still looking for it.
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https://gizmodo.com/5822377/the-avengers-trailer-leaked-and-its-rad
I found one last night that was slightly better quality than that. Still looking for it.
You should've bookmarked the link!
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https://gizmodo.com/5822377/the-avengers-trailer-leaked-and-its-rad
I found one last night that was slightly better quality than that. Still looking for it.
You should've bookmarked the link!
I know. :(
Edit: Looks like Paramount has been on the ball as far as yanking trailers from websites left and right.
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https://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/the-avengers-trailer-leaked
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I'll see it in all its glory tomorrow on the big screen. From what I can see, it appears like a nice teaser. Obviously no shots of the Hulk yet, but that's to be expected. I doubt much of the digital effects work has been complet
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Captain America is out over here (movies come out on Thursdays in PR), so I will do everything in my power to go see it tonight!
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Saw it, loooved it!!
Chris Evans did a great job portraying Captain America!
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Saw it, loooved it!!
Chris Evans did a great job portraying Captain America!
I hope so, I was super skeptical when I heard he was cast. But if the reviews are good, I'll be happy.
If anyone sees it in 3D, let me know if it's worth seeing that way.
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Saw it, loooved it!!
Chris Evans did a great job portraying Captain America!
I hope so, I was super skeptical when I heard he was cast. But if the reviews are good, I'll be happy.
If anyone sees it in 3D, let me know if it's worth seeing that way.
It's not worth it.
Though, Red Skull was seriously under developed.
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Agreed, RS's character wasn't fully fleshed out and part of it left me going "well, OK let's roll with it."
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https://www.cinemablend.com/new/To-3D-Or-Not-To-3D-Choose-The-Right-Captain-America-Ticket-25796.html
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Captain America was such a fun film! And im glad that people here agree about Red Skulls character development, although Hugo Weaving was perfect fir the role. Other than that and some pacing issues that got me impatient at times, I thought the film was really good.
I still think the best Marvel Universe movie goes to Ed Nort's The Incredible Hulk....
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Anna Paquin's accent is actually New Zealand. And Obviously Hugh Jackman is Australian. For some reason that region seems to be able to pull off American accents fine where as the reversal isn't always true :P
You know that's so true. Sometimes I forget that Hugh Jackman is Australian. He does the American accent so well.
Well, if we're talking Wolverine, shouldn't that be a Canadian accent? ;)
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Yeah but he's never had a Canadian accent in any format before. Perhaps in the comics, but I can't hear that in my head while reading them :P
I'll revise the statement to "North American" ;)
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Adami, I read some of the rumors about Avengers dealing with the Kree-Skrull war. But what they said was that Loki would use the Cosmic Cube to open a portal that lets the Skrulls into Earth which leads to the Avengers assembling.
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Adami, I read some of the rumors about Avengers dealing with the Kree-Skrull war. But what they said was that Loki would use the Cosmic Cube to open a portal that lets the Skrulls into Earth which leads to the Avengers assembling.
Sounds like what I read, I guess I just assumed the Kree-Skrull war since I read about the Skrulls being there.
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It would be cool if they used the Super Skrull, but I think they would have some rights issue since Super Skrull is the F4 rolled into one.
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Adami, I read some of the rumors about Avengers dealing with the Kree-Skrull war. But what they said was that Loki would use the Cosmic Cube to open a portal that lets the Skrulls into Earth which leads to the Avengers assembling.
Sounds like what I read, I guess I just assumed the Kree-Skrull war since I read about the Skrulls being there.
I think that is something that was floated a year or so ago. I don't believe that the Kree or Skrulls will be part of the actual film. Although that would be cool.
Apparently Loki is involved in a big way.
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Adami, I read some of the rumors about Avengers dealing with the Kree-Skrull war. But what they said was that Loki would use the Cosmic Cube to open a portal that lets the Skrulls into Earth which leads to the Avengers assembling.
Sounds like what I read, I guess I just assumed the Kree-Skrull war since I read about the Skrulls being there.
I think that is something that was floated a year or so ago. I don't believe that the Kree or Skrulls will be part of the actual film. Although that would be cool.
Apparently Loki is involved in a big way.
Indeed he is, but he isn't a fighting force, he's a manipulator. He needs something to manipulate that will do the actual fighting. In Thor he had Gort, but in this....unless he has the Hulk, he'll need something that can stand up against Thor, Iron Man, Captain America, Hawkeye, Scarlett Johansons Boobs, and Possibly the Hulk.
And the Cosmic Cube was created by the Skrulls I believe.
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Adami, I read some of the rumors about Avengers dealing with the Kree-Skrull war. But what they said was that Loki would use the Cosmic Cube to open a portal that lets the Skrulls into Earth which leads to the Avengers assembling.
Sounds like what I read, I guess I just assumed the Kree-Skrull war since I read about the Skrulls being there.
I think that is something that was floated a year or so ago. I don't believe that the Kree or Skrulls will be part of the actual film. Although that would be cool.
Apparently Loki is involved in a big way.
Indeed he is, but he isn't a fighting force, he's a manipulator. He needs something to manipulate that will do the actual fighting. In Thor he had Gort, but in this....unless he has the Hulk, he'll need something that can stand up against Thor, Iron Man, Captain America, Hawkeye, Scarlett Johansons Boobs, and Possibly the Hulk.
I think that's where the Infinity Gauntlet comes in...
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Yea, I think the Infinity Gauntlet might be a bit overkill. They'll need something with brute force, not mystical force and lots of explosions.
Control over all of the elements of the universe is kind of hard to film in a summer blockbuster.
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We'll see what they come up with. I still think Loki finds a way to harness the Cosmic Cubes power and this is why:
SPOILERS
In Captain America they explicitly state that: 1) the Cosmic Cube was the crown jewel of Odin's armory (In fact, the Cube was hidden in a figure of Yggdrasil until Red Skull finds it) and 2) it's a power that no mere man can control, only a god (Loki being one).
END SPOILER
But opening a portal to the Skrull world is interesting.
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Saw Cap today. A lot of fun. Stands alongside the other cross-over films thus far. I'd say it's the most accurate portrayal of a golden age style comic come to life.
Also got the Amazing Spider-Man prior to the film, and in 3D, it's pretty mind-blowing. Also got to see a clean version of the Avenger preview and got quite excited.
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Avengers Comic-Con stuff:
Here's Cap's outfit for the movie: https://movies.ign.com/articles/118/1183337p1.html
And here's concept art for Hawkeye, Black Widow, Iron Man, and Cap: https://movies.ign.com/articles/118/1183788p1.html
That IM armor is looking sick!
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In line to see Captain America right now. I am excite.
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Saw it earlier. It got me really excited for The Avengers.
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Cap was sweet! Loved the teaser and one scene in the movie made it very apparent how they get Thor back to Earth.
It'll be interesting to see how they tackle bringing him back to Earth but not letting him see Jane.
edit: Also, after checking out the links in this thread, I like Captain America's suit in "First Avenger" a lot more than "The Avengers" suit.
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I loved it. Even though I was familiar with the story, Steve's humanity gave me the sense that the possibility of failure was lingering. That's a good thing I suppose; it kept me more on the edge of my set.
A couple of other things I liked:
-Loved the Indiana Jones style death near the end. I was surprised that was in the film, since the camera didn't move away.
-The Wilhelm scream. YES.
-The Men in Black reference. :lol
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I don't know if you've seen Thor, but if you have it gives you reason to believe that wasn't a death.
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Cap was sweet! Loved the teaser and one scene in the movie made it very apparent how they get Thor back to Earth.
It'll be interesting to see how they tackle bringing him back to Earth but not letting him see Jane.
Umm... the end of Thor makes it very apparent how they get him back to Earth. I know you're probably referencing that they use the Cosmic Cube, but I think it's more obvious that Jane completes her theory on wormholes and is able to make one that links Earth to Asgard. And even though Natalie Portman is not on the cast for the Avengers, Stellan Skarsgård is, so if they do use the wormhole thing then he just gives a throwaway line to why Jane isn't there.
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I don't know if you've seen Thor, but if you have it gives you reason to believe that wasn't a death.
I was talking about the propeller blender.
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I don't know if you've seen Thor, but if you have it gives you reason to believe that wasn't a death.
I was talking about the propeller blender.
Red Skull's death is also very Raiders of the Lost Ark.
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Cap was sweet! Loved the teaser and one scene in the movie made it very apparent how they get Thor back to Earth.
It'll be interesting to see how they tackle bringing him back to Earth but not letting him see Jane.
Umm... the end of Thor makes it very apparent how they get him back to Earth. I know you're probably referencing that they use the Cosmic Cube, but I think it's more obvious that Jane completes her theory on wormholes and is able to make one that links Earth to Asgard. And even though Natalie Portman is not on the cast for the Avengers, Stellan Skarsgård is, so if they do use the wormhole thing then he just gives a throwaway line to why Jane isn't there.
I think that's how they'll do it for a Thor sequel. For the Avengers I think it's gotta be the cube. It'd be asking a lot to say she finished her theory and got all the tech up and running all without having her there. The only other reason to show the "warp" with the cube in CA that I can think of would be to hint toward Loki's travel, but he's already proven he can get between Asgard and Earth without that OR the Bifrost Bridge.
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I don't know if you've seen Thor, but if you have it gives you reason to believe that wasn't a death.
I was talking about the propeller blender.
Red Skull's death is also very Raiders of the Lost Ark.
Gee thanks.
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I don't know if you've seen Thor, but if you have it gives you reason to believe that wasn't a death.
I was talking about the propeller blender.
I almost forgot about that. :lol
Also, does anyone else think that the arc reactor technology was reverse engineered or based off the Tesseract or its technology? The Hydra soldiers' weapons make the same sound effect as Iron Man's repulsors.
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I don't know if you've seen Thor, but if you have it gives you reason to believe that wasn't a death.
I was talking about the propeller blender.
Red Skull's death is also very Raiders of the Lost Ark.
Gee thanks.
Your welcome.
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I don't know if you've seen Thor, but if you have it gives you reason to believe that wasn't a death.
I was talking about the propeller blender.
Red Skull's death is also very Raiders of the Lost Ark.
Gee thanks.
Your welcome.
You're so mean to me! I HATE YOU! I'M LEAVING AND NEVER COMING BACK! YOU'RE NOT MY REAL FATHER ANYWAY!!!
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I don't know if you've seen Thor, but if you have it gives you reason to believe that wasn't a death.
I was talking about the propeller blender.
I almost forgot about that. :lol
Also, does anyone else think that the arc reactor technology was reverse engineered or based off the Tesseract or its technology? The Hydra soldiers' weapons make the same sound effect as Iron Man's repulsors.
I doubt it, I believe it was explicitly said in IM1 that the arc reactor technology was an original idea by Tony Stark.
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I don't know if you've seen Thor, but if you have it gives you reason to believe that wasn't a death.
I was talking about the propeller blender.
I almost forgot about that. :lol
Also, does anyone else think that the arc reactor technology was reverse engineered or based off the Tesseract or its technology? The Hydra soldiers' weapons make the same sound effect as Iron Man's repulsors.
I doubt it, I believe it was explicitly said in IM1 that the arc reactor technology was an original idea by Tony Stark.
I thought it was started by Howard? And then Tony was able to enhance it? I need to watch Iron Man again.
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I don't remember it correctly, so I may be mistaken.
Oh wait! The original arc reactor was an idea by Howard Stark and Anton Vanko!
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I think what put me in that line of thought is when Fury said that Howard Stark first put it into motion and was going to start an "energy race", but it was based off incomplete research or something to that effect.
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I think what put me in that line of thought is when Fury said that Howard Stark first put it into motion and was going to start an "energy race", but it was based off incomplete research or something to that effect.
Yes, yes. Now I remember. In IM2 they said that Howard and Anton Vanko made the first arc reactor. And the original plans for it are what Whiplash uses to make his arc reactor.
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Right. Probably a long shot, I'm basing it entirely on a sound effect and Howard Stark's connection.
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Well, there was a piece of Cosmic Cube-powered equipment that Cap took from a Hydra base and I don't remember there being any explanation or used of it afterwards.
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Right. Probably a long shot, I'm basing it entirely on a sound effect and Howard Stark's connection.
They've put in over half a billion dollars into making these films, with a pretty meticulous eye for detail. Something tells me its no mere coincidence that IM's blasters are the guns in Cap have the same sound effect and illumination.
I was having issues with Howard's age until I did out the math: if he's supposed to be say mid-20's in Cap, and Tony is mid-40's in modern day, then he'd have been in his 40's when Tony was born, which seems to work with the footage we see of him in IM2. That's supposed to be around 1970, correct?
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1974
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Alright. And when was Tony born, '66?
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I quite enjoyed Captain America, probably neck and neck with Thor for second place for me out of all the Marvel Universe movies so far.
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Alright. And when was Tony born, '66?
Well Downey was born in 65, so that sounds fair enough.
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Here's my rankings for the Marvel films.
1. The Incredible Hulk
2. Captain America.
3. Thor
4. Iron Man
5. iron Man 2
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All the films thus far are 3.5-4 star movies for me, so it's a tough call...but I guess I'd list them as:
Iron Man
Thor
Captain America
Iron Man 2
Incredible Hulk
Oh, and for those who haven't seen, all the posters together:
(https://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/avengers-full-set.png)
If the final product is close to that, that may very well be the best looking Hulk ever.
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Yeah, the Hulk looks straight from the comics.
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I was way, WAY behind on seeing these. Saw IM, but hadn't seen the rest. Was waiting for IM2 to come to DVD, and somehow just never got around to seeing it. Meant to see Thor in theaters, but, again, didn't get around to it. Didn't realize there was going to be a huge tie-in between these films, and wasn't really interested in seeing Hulk at all. So we Redbox'd IM2 and watched it over the weekend. Not bad. My wife isn't a comics/superhero fan at all, but she liked both IM films. After I explained the whole Avengers concept to her, she is now interested in seeing the rest as well. Should be fun getting caught up.
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Bosk, you should certainly give Incredible Hulk a spin. Although I'm in the minority as being a fan of the Ang Lee Hulk, this film seems to have made up for all the issues everyone had with it. Its a lot of fun. Watching the blu-ray, its a shame they cut out so many dramatic scenes, as it would've made the film stronger and more on par with the other tie in movies. And try to catch Cap in the theater while you can, and even track down Thor at secondary theaters if possible. I doubt you'd regret it, as both were well worth the time.
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Also, interesting tidbit from Comicon: In addition to The Punisher, they've also reacquired the rights to Blade. I myself was a big fan of the first two Blade films, so I'd love to see the character integrated into the universe. I'm sure they'd reboot and recast, but I for one would have trouble seeing anyone else but Wesley Snipes portraying the character. He'll be 51 by the time he's out of prison. They could shoehorn him into Thor 2 or Iron Man 3 to set him up for future exploits :lol
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Oh, I definitely plan on seeing them all now. Unfortunately, Thor isn't running anywhere around here anymore, so I'll probably have to wait for DVD. I'll probably catch Cap in the theater, but I'll just have to catch the others on DVD.
I didn't really have a problem with the first Hulk movie. He just isn't my favorite character, and there's just something about doing a reboot so soon that kinda rubs me the wrong way, so that's why I didn't initially see it. But given the tie-ins, I'm definitely going to now.
But back to the "recent reboot" thing, I just don't get why they feel the need to do that. Same with the Spider Man movies. I thought the first one was great. And while the next two weren't nearly as good, they were still enjoyable enough that I don't get the hate for them. But still, given how recent they were, why reboot the entire story? Why not just continue it with different personnel if they really want to do more of the Spider Man story? While changing actors and crew is also not the most optimal solution, that bugs me less than rebooting. I dunno, maybe I'm in the minority on that one, but it still just annoys me.
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Oh, I definitely plan on seeing them all now. Unfortunately, Thor isn't running anywhere around here anymore, so I'll probably have to wait for DVD. I'll probably catch Cap in the theater, but I'll just have to catch the others on DVD.
I didn't really have a problem with the first Hulk movie. He just isn't my favorite character, and there's just something about doing a reboot so soon that kinda rubs me the wrong way, so that's why I didn't initially see it. But given the tie-ins, I'm definitely going to now.
But back to the "recent reboot" thing, I just don't get why they feel the need to do that. Same with the Spider Man movies. I thought the first one was great. And while the next two weren't nearly as good, they were still enjoyable enough that I don't get the hate for them. But still, given how recent they were, why reboot the entire story? Why not just continue it with different personnel if they really want to do more of the Spider Man story? While changing actors and crew is also not the most optimal solution, that bugs me less than rebooting. I dunno, maybe I'm in the minority on that one, but it still just annoys me.
Cap has a few bits that tie into Thor, so you may be a little confused, but when you finally catch it, it will make more sense.
Actually, Spider-Man 2 is regarded as one of the best comic movies of all time and surpasses both part 1 and 3 by a long-shot. I too enjoy the trilogy, but you have to look at the logistics: no one was coming back to do a part 4. Better to take it in a different direction and right some of the wrongs. Part 3 was a mess, although upon my recent rewatch of it, I found it more enjoyable then I initially did. But looking at those three films, they really say all they need to. The end is pretty definitive and ties up all the threads of each character to a satisfying conclusion. I'm all for the reboot. And judging by the teaser, its shaping up nicely.
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Cap has a few bits that tie into Thor, so you may be a little confused, but when you finally catch it, it will make more sense.
:( Bummer. I wish it was still running somewhere so I could see it first.
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Cap has a few bits that tie into Thor, so you may be a little confused, but when you finally catch it, it will make more sense.
:( Bummer. I wish it was still running somewhere so I could see it first.
We're talking 2 little parts, you won't be lost if you haven't seen Thor. Odin is referenced at the very beginning, and something happens toward the end that ties in visually with Thor.
As far as Spider-Man goes, I just don't know why it has to be an origin story again.
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Just saw Cap, loved it.
I don't think I caught the Men in Black reference that others seem to. Care to enlighten me?
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Not sure either, but I remember in MiB, Will Smith commented about an officer by saying "Captain America over here".
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More thoughts.
I think Cap America should have been two movies, it seems like two bookends at this point. A great origins story, but then kind of jumps right into the end with Red Skull. I think the movie should have been his origins story with a more minor character than the red skull and have it end with him still in 1944 or whatever. Of course it should have been released right after the hulk and the movie released this year would be the sequel of him fighting the red skull and ending the way it does.
Loved The Avengers trailer at the end. I am seriously looking forward to that movie, my only gripe is the recasting of Bruce Banner. It almost make it feel like Ed Nortons movie is no longer a part of the universe due to the major recasting. I really wish Norton would have been on board.
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Norton not being involved is his own fault. He's a control freak on set, and with a cast this huge, he's in no place to be doing script rewrites and making major structural changes as he sees fit. I'll never deny the man is a gifted actor. I'd go as far as to say he's at the top of the list and a personal favorite, but there's no denying how nutty he gets on set.
Cap has a few bits that tie into Thor, so you may be a little confused, but when you finally catch it, it will make more sense.
:( Bummer. I wish it was still running somewhere so I could see it first.
We're talking 2 little parts, you won't be lost if you haven't seen Thor. Odin is referenced at the very beginning, and something happens toward the end that ties in visually with Thor.
You're also forgetting the tesseract. Thor is am important film to watch for it sets up the magic and myth side of the Marvel films, which helps suspend some disbelief by the time you catch Captain America. I'd imagine some people might find the set up too hokey without having already had exposure to that sort of thing. But I can't judge what others will think.
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I know it's Norton's fault, but I still wish he would be in the movie, if only for continuity sake.
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Me too, but I'm also anxious to see what Ruffalo brings to the part.
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Me too, but I'm also anxious to see what Ruffalo brings to the part.
Me too, to an extent.
But as I said, the recasting almost makes The Incredible Hulk a stand alone film. Since I doubt anyone else from the movie will be in it, it would be like re-casting batman and then saying it's the same guy from the nolan universe.
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By the way, Bosk, Thor will be release on DVD in September so you won't have to wait much. Go ahead and catch Cap in theaters.
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Well, not really. As we saw at the end, Ross and Stark have a conversation about the Avengers. And footage from the Hulk's destruction is seen in Iron Man 2. We'll have to wait and see what other references are made.
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Well, not really. As we saw at the end, Ross and Stark have a conversation about the Avengers. And footage from the Hulk's destruction is seen in Iron Man 2. We'll have to wait and see what other references are made.
That's barely anything. I just can't stand major recasting.
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Well, not really. As we saw at the end, Ross and Stark have a conversation about the Avengers. And footage from the Hulk's destruction is seen in Iron Man 2. We'll have to wait and see what other references are made.
That's barely anything. I just can't stand major recasting.
I agree. Even though I heard The Mummy 3 was terrible, I'm not even going to feed my curiosity just because Rachel Weisz isn't in it.
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By the way, any hints on how long The Avengers is supposed to be?
I was thinking that if this movie is anything less than 2 and a half hours....then it might disappoint me.
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Cap has a few bits that tie into Thor, so you may be a little confused, but when you finally catch it, it will make more sense.
:( Bummer. I wish it was still running somewhere so I could see it first.
We're talking 2 little parts, you won't be lost if you haven't seen Thor. Odin is referenced at the very beginning, and something happens toward the end that ties in visually with Thor.
You're also forgetting the tesseract.
No, I'm not...Perhaps the general presence of it is more believable after Thor, but one of the points I was referencing was about the Tesseract itself. One scene in particular. Plus, the tesseract is only in the Thor after credits scene so it's not like a viewer is more enlightened to Captain America's plot, I think bosk will be just fine.
Just saw Cap, loved it.
I don't think I caught the Men in Black reference that others seem to. Care to enlighten me?
Tommy Lee Jones driving a car and pushing a magic red button to make it go faster.
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Well, not really. As we saw at the end, Ross and Stark have a conversation about the Avengers. And footage from the Hulk's destruction is seen in Iron Man 2. We'll have to wait and see what other references are made.
That's barely anything. I just can't stand major recasting.
I agree. Even though I heard The Mummy 3 was terrible, I'm not even going to feed my curiosity just because Rachel Weisz isn't in it.
But it was a good, entertaining film. Did anyone really get upset when Rhodes was recast for Iron Man 2? They did the same thing in both films. Make a joke out of the recasting and move on with it. Not allowing yourself to see a film due to such a thing seems dumb to me. Did you not see Batman Forever? Or any of the James Bond films?
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Well, not really. As we saw at the end, Ross and Stark have a conversation about the Avengers. And footage from the Hulk's destruction is seen in Iron Man 2. We'll have to wait and see what other references are made.
That's barely anything. I just can't stand major recasting.
I agree. Even though I heard The Mummy 3 was terrible, I'm not even going to feed my curiosity just because Rachel Weisz isn't in it.
But it was a good, entertaining film.
Mummy 3? Not at all.
About Bond, I never get upset when they recast him, because to me 007 is a code name and not one person. But that's a discussion for another thread.
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And footage from the Hulk's destruction is seen in Iron Man 2. We'll have to wait and see what other references are made.
Wait--what? Where was it? I didn't catch that.
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And footage from the Hulk's destruction is seen in Iron Man 2. We'll have to wait and see what other references are made.
Wait--what? Where was it? I didn't catch that.
Yea I don't remember that either. But I've only see it once, and I just bought it so I'll watch it tomorrow and look for it.
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Well, not really. As we saw at the end, Ross and Stark have a conversation about the Avengers. And footage from the Hulk's destruction is seen in Iron Man 2. We'll have to wait and see what other references are made.
That's barely anything. I just can't stand major recasting.
I agree. Even though I heard The Mummy 3 was terrible, I'm not even going to feed my curiosity just because Rachel Weisz isn't in it.
But it was a good, entertaining film.
Mummy 3? Not at all.
About Bond, I never get upset when they recast him, because to me 007 is a code name and not one person. But that's a discussion for another thread.
That's a matter of opinion, but I found it far superior to Mummy Returns, which was mostly a rehash, and whatever wasn't was lame. I give credit to Mummy 3 for mixing it up but still retaining the fun, adventurous tone of the first two.
And footage from the Hulk's destruction is seen in Iron Man 2. We'll have to wait and see what other references are made.
Wait--what? Where was it? I didn't catch that.
Yea I don't remember that either. But I've only see it once, and I just bought it so I'll watch it tomorrow and look for it.
During Stark and Fury's scene discussing the Avengers initiative towards the end, it's playing on the news in the background. It implies the events of Iron Man 2 and Incredible Hulk happen concurrently.
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I'll keep an eye out for it this time.
Also, I really hope The Avengers show's some S.H.I.E.L.D. agents that aren't just guys in suits that can't actually do anything in the slightest.
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Well, not really. As we saw at the end, Ross and Stark have a conversation about the Avengers. And footage from the Hulk's destruction is seen in Iron Man 2. We'll have to wait and see what other references are made.
That's barely anything. I just can't stand major recasting.
I agree. Even though I heard The Mummy 3 was terrible, I'm not even going to feed my curiosity just because Rachel Weisz isn't in it.
But it was a good, entertaining film.
Mummy 3? Not at all.
About Bond, I never get upset when they recast him, because to me 007 is a code name and not one person. But that's a discussion for another thread.
I could get behind this viewpoint if not for the pre-credits scene of For Your Eyes Only.
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Well, not really. As we saw at the end, Ross and Stark have a conversation about the Avengers. And footage from the Hulk's destruction is seen in Iron Man 2. We'll have to wait and see what other references are made.
That's barely anything. I just can't stand major recasting.
I agree. Even though I heard The Mummy 3 was terrible, I'm not even going to feed my curiosity just because Rachel Weisz isn't in it.
But it was a good, entertaining film.
Mummy 3? Not at all.
About Bond, I never get upset when they recast him, because to me 007 is a code name and not one person. But that's a discussion for another thread.
I could get behind this viewpoint if not for the pre-credits scene of For Your Eyes Only.
And that the events of On Her Majesty's Secret Service carry over directly into the next film, despite changing from Lazenby back to Connery.
I'm just glad we don't have to sit through a new origin story everytime Bond is recast.
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Oh yeah, that's a bit more of an obvious one. :lol
I could see it happening though, ZB. They "rebooted" Bond after the lackluster Die Another Day, I could see them recasting and rebooting Bond again if the next Craig film flops. Just seems that's what Hollywood wants to do in order to keep making money: rehash familiar stories and build off the nostalgic memories of intellectual properties. Problem is only a few people, like Christopher Nolan and Batman or the Marvel movie universe, actually want to make something great with it and are okay with recasting major characters for the benefit of the movies without having to reboot anything.
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I'll keep an eye out for it this time.
Also, I really hope The Avengers show's some S.H.I.E.L.D. agents that aren't just guys in suits that can't actually do anything in the slightest.
Well, it's all up to what Fury, Coulson, Scarlett and the girl from How I Met Your Mother can do. And then there's Hawkeye.
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By the way, any hints on how long The Avengers is supposed to be?
I was thinking that if this movie is anything less than 2 and a half hours....then it might disappoint me.
It has to be 2:30 at minimum!
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Well, not really. As we saw at the end, Ross and Stark have a conversation about the Avengers. And footage from the Hulk's destruction is seen in Iron Man 2. We'll have to wait and see what other references are made.
That's barely anything. I just can't stand major recasting.
I agree. Even though I heard The Mummy 3 was terrible, I'm not even going to feed my curiosity just because Rachel Weisz isn't in it.
But it was a good, entertaining film.
Mummy 3? Not at all.
About Bond, I never get upset when they recast him, because to me 007 is a code name and not one person. But that's a discussion for another thread.
I could get behind this viewpoint if not for the pre-credits scene of For Your Eyes Only.
And that the events of On Her Majesty's Secret Service carry over directly into the next film, despite changing from Lazenby back to Connery.
I'm just glad we don't have to sit through a new origin story everytime Bond is recast.
I completely missed this. That is the worst theory I've ever heard :lol
007's name is James Bond, regardless of who plays him. Same goes with Felix Leiter, his FBI friend, who has been played by just as many actors. There are threads in each film that tie back to his history, regardless of which actor is currently in the role. As was stated, Moore Bond visits the grave of Lazenby Bond's wife. Are they supposed to be different people?
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Stop talking about 007!
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Well when the rights revert to Marvel and we get MI6 vs. S.H.E.I.L.D. this will all have relevance ;D
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I just hope LOBO makes a special guest appearance in the end and destroys everything and everyone.
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Also, spoilers I guess for anyone who hasn't seen Cap yet.
I payed a good amount of attention to the Stark convention. I heard there would be tons of stuff there, but all I saw was the Ant Man costume........who I really hope makes an appearance in The Avengers. But was there more?
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Tommy Lee Jones driving a car and pushing a magic red button to make it go faster.
This.
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Tommy Lee Jones driving a car and pushing a magic red button to make it go faster.
This.
I would hardly call that a reference.
Guys notice how Chris Evans played a human being who got powers? Must be a reference to F4.
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Tommy Lee Jones driving a car and pushing a magic red button to make it go faster.
This.
I would hardly call that a reference.
Guys notice how Chris Evans played a human being who got powers? Must be a reference to F4.
I see it from the other side. I would hardly say it's a coincidence, and I'm obviously not the only one who thinks so.
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Also, spoilers I guess for anyone who hasn't seen Cap yet.
I payed a good amount of attention to the Stark convention. I heard there would be tons of stuff there, but all I saw was the Ant Man costume........who I really hope makes an appearance in The Avengers. But was there more?
Spoilers
Apparently, you didn't see Ant Man's costume, what you saw was the original Human Torch.
https://movies.ign.com/articles/118/1184798p1.html
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I think the author was wrong, it would make more sense for it to be antman, as antman was part of the Avengers and well.........that suit looked more like antman than it did a guy on fire.
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Well timeline wise it works, because the first heroes in the Marvel Universe were The Human Torch and Namor, followed by Cap, so it makes sense. Ant-Man was a later character from the 60's with the rest of the Avengers and the return of Cap.
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Well timeline wise it works, because the first heroes in the Marvel Universe were The Human Torch and Namor, followed by Cap, so it makes sense. Ant-Man was a later character from the 60's with the rest of the Avengers and the return of Cap.
Yes, but it wasn't him, just his suit.
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Fair enough. We shall see. Hopefully they'll expand on it and it won't just be a teaser, similar to Cap's shield in Iron Man. I'm sure once the blu-ray comes out, the commentary track will confirm and lay to rest the speculation.
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Fair enough. We shall see. Hopefully they'll expand on it and it won't just be a teaser, similar to Cap's shield in Iron Man. I'm sure once the blu-ray comes out, the commentary track will confirm and lay to rest the speculation.
Just so you know, if for some xenu knows reason it really IS the human torch and they confirm it.....I will assassinate everyone in this thread who would have knowledge of me being wrong, delete any reference to me being wrong and then probably have some ice cream or something, maybe americone dream.
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I hadn't seen them before, so I saw both Iron Man and Iron Man 2 yesterday.
First was a good movie, but the second felt like a movie they made only for the money (obviously they make all movies for money), but it didn't really add much since before.
I do like Iron Man, but the fact that his personality is known throughout the world makes the movie very.. "American", and when I say that, I mean the whole exaggerated things like the award show in the beginning where thousands of people are shouting and such.
The action-scenes were cool, but there weren't many of them in the second, hopefully we'll see more of that in a third movie, or in Avengers.
Related to Super-heros, though not Marvel, I'm seeing Green Lantern on the cinema tonight. :)
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I'm watching "The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes" on Netflix right now. I'm not very far into it, but the writing is good. The guy voicing Stark/Iron Man channels Downy... almost a little too well. Just got to Fury's appearance and he seems, well, like Sam Jackson. I'm pleasantly surprised with this so far.
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I'm watching "The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes" on Netflix right now. I'm not very far into it, but the writing is good. The guy voicing Stark/Iron Man channels Downy... almost a little too well. Just got to Fury's appearance and he seems, well, like Sam Jackson. I'm pleasantly surprised with this so far.
Yea I finished it a while ago, really enjoyable. I think they really captured the characters well. Not sure about The Hulk since I know least about him. But the story lines were compelling and I liked that for the most part it was one major story, which is what I like most about the shows I like. I'm not huge on stand alone episodes.
But yea it's obviously written to be a counterpart for the upcoming avengers movie. With Loki being the main villain, the guy channeling Downey so perfectly, Sam Jackson pretty much as Fury and so forth.
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Fair enough. We shall see. Hopefully they'll expand on it and it won't just be a teaser, similar to Cap's shield in Iron Man. I'm sure once the blu-ray comes out, the commentary track will confirm and lay to rest the speculation.
Just so you know, if for some xenu knows reason it really IS the human torch and they confirm it.....I will assassinate everyone in this thread who would have knowledge of me being wrong, delete any reference to me being wrong and then probably have some ice cream or something, maybe americone dream.
It's the Torch. It's not just a suit, it is the original android. Phineas Horton's creation. In an oxygen-free tank so he won't burst into flame.
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Hefdaddy's on the list.
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I'm watching "The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes" on Netflix right now. I'm not very far into it, but the writing is good. The guy voicing Stark/Iron Man channels Downy... almost a little too well. Just got to Fury's appearance and he seems, well, like Sam Jackson. I'm pleasantly surprised with this so far.
Yea I finished it a while ago, really enjoyable. I think they really captured the characters well. Not sure about The Hulk since I know least about him. But the story lines were compelling and I liked that for the most part it was one major story, which is what I like most about the shows I like. I'm not huge on stand alone episodes.
But yea it's obviously written to be a counterpart for the upcoming avengers movie. With Loki being the main villain, the guy channeling Downey so perfectly, Sam Jackson pretty much as Fury and so forth.
I'm on the second episode now, watching Thor in all his glory. So far, so good. I think I liked the frost giants better in the movie, though. Oh well - still good.
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Yea, the ones in the movie seemed a bit more.............real or something. I really like how the first 4 or 5 episodes are about the individual avengers as opposed to the group.
And while Wasp was a bit annoying, the show made me really like the Ant Man character and now I'm hoping he's in the movie (though he won't be).
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Hefdaddy's on the list.
I'm on lots of lists.
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hefdaddy42 fact: If there's a list, hefdaddy42 is probably on it. Or has blessed it.
:hefnotoad:
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I'm watching "The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes" on Netflix right now. I'm not very far into it, but the writing is good. The guy voicing Stark/Iron Man channels Downy... almost a little too well. Just got to Fury's appearance and he seems, well, like Sam Jackson. I'm pleasantly surprised with this so far.
Is that the cartoon show that airs on Disney Channel or something? If it is then I watched it for a bit too on Fios on demand and yeah, it was pretty darn good. My wife noticed me watching it alot and must have picked up on some things because when I was talking to her the other night about the Avengers movie and all the people who would be in it she was like "what about the chick that turns into a bug or whatever?" I'll miss Ant-Man and Wasp in the movie. :sadpanda:
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https://bluray.ign.com/articles/118/1185723p1.html
Sweet!
Also, now I know that The Incredible Hulk is suppose to be the last movie, chronologically speaking.
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https://bluray.ign.com/articles/118/1185723p1.html
Sweet!
Also, now I know that The Incredible Hulk is suppose to be the last movie, chronologically speaking.
It is? Damnit!
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https://bluray.ign.com/articles/118/1185723p1.html
Sweet!
Also, now I know that The Incredible Hulk is suppose to be the last movie, chronologically speaking.
Yeah it's confirmed, but I feel it's a bit of a stretch. We see the Hulk wreckage at the end of Iron Man 2, which is the same time they first find Thor's hammer. Thinking about it logically in that sense would have to make Thor the last film chronologically.
Also, while they say "The Consultant" takes place after The Hulk, they are talking about sending Tony Stark to meet the general, which takes place at the end of The Hulk. So are we to believe that particular scene takes place far after the rest of the film? It wasn't even post-credits.
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Are you sure that wreckage footage wasn't of those Hammer droids?
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Personally I think they should have released the movies in chronological order.
First Captain America (without Red Skull, just being a origins story and some other bad guy)
Then Iron Man
Then Iron Man 2
Then Thor
Then The Incredible Hulk
Then Captain America 2 (this time about Red Skull with the ending of the actual film)
Then The Avengers
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Are you sure that wreckage footage wasn't of those Hammer droids?
I believe it's confirmed to be from the Hulk, but I could be wrong. Anyone know for sure?
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I see it as too easy to just put them in an order. Obviously certain events are happening simultaneously.
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I see it as too easy to just put them in an order. Obviously certain events are happening simultaneously.
True, but Hulk coming 2nd right after the first Iron Man wasn't the best idea.
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https://bluray.ign.com/articles/118/1185723p1.html
Sweet!
Also, now I know that The Incredible Hulk is suppose to be the last movie, chronologically speaking.
Yeah it's confirmed, but I feel it's a bit of a stretch. We see the Hulk wreckage at the end of Iron Man 2, which is the same time they first find Thor's hammer. Thinking about it logically in that sense would have to make Thor the last film chronologically.
Also, while they say "The Consultant" takes place after The Hulk, they are talking about sending Tony Stark to meet the general, which takes place at the end of The Hulk. So are we to believe that particular scene takes place far after the rest of the film? It wasn't even post-credits.
That scene where Tony Stark talks to Thunderbolt has to be after all of the events of the film took place.
And the way I see it, IM2, Thor and TIH take place almost simultaneously with the events of IM2 and Thor ending before the events of TIH.
What footage we see of Hulk in IM2 is when he's attack at the university, that's shown at the end of IM2, and in the post-credit of IM2 we see the fall of Mjolnir (and eventually Thor) to Earth. So in the time between that scene and when Hulk and Abomination are fighting through Harlem, Thor happens.
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I see it as too easy to just put them in an order. Obviously certain events are happening simultaneously.
True, but Hulk coming 2nd right after the first Iron Man wasn't the best idea.
For continuity sake perhaps, but with hundreds of millions of dollars in budget, marketing, as well as the interest of a high profile actor and director involved, not to mention the fact that the other films were only in their development infancy...I can forgive them.
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https://bluray.ign.com/articles/118/1185723p1.html
Sweet!
Also, now I know that The Incredible Hulk is suppose to be the last movie, chronologically speaking.
Yeah it's confirmed, but I feel it's a bit of a stretch. We see the Hulk wreckage at the end of Iron Man 2, which is the same time they first find Thor's hammer. Thinking about it logically in that sense would have to make Thor the last film chronologically.
Also, while they say "The Consultant" takes place after The Hulk, they are talking about sending Tony Stark to meet the general, which takes place at the end of The Hulk. So are we to believe that particular scene takes place far after the rest of the film? It wasn't even post-credits.
That scene where Tony Stark talks to Thunderbolt has to be after all of the events of the film took place.
What footage we see of Hulk in IM2 is when he's attack at the university, that's shown at the end of IM2, and in the post-credit of IM2 we see the fall of Mjolnir (and eventually Thor) to Earth. So in the time between that scene and when Hulk and Abomination are fighting through Harlem, Thor happens.
Ahh that makes more sense now. If that's the case, then yeah, that confirms that the events of The Hulk, Thor, and Iron Man 2 are all overlapping to some degree.
The only thing that's still bugging me is where "The Consultant" lies. It's after the events of The Hulk, but before the last scene of The Hulk? I haven't seen it in a while, but I don't remember anything on screen indicating that RDJ's scene in that movie took place that much after the events of the film, as it was still in the film's regular running time (should've been post-credits in my opinion, especially since that film had no post-credits scene).
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I doubt Ross jumped off the helicopter and ran to the nearest bar.
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I doubt Ross jumped off the helicopter and ran to the nearest bar.
That. Some time has to have past between the events of the movie, this "The Consultant" short and RDJ talking to Ross.
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I doubt Ross jumped off the helicopter and ran to the nearest bar.
I don't know. Shit got pretty real. I might've :lol
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I doubt Ross jumped off the helicopter and ran to the nearest bar.
I don't know. Shit got pretty real. I might've :lol
Should have been a deleted scene.
"Screw this, give me a chute, I'll be at Smokey Steve's."
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I doubt Ross jumped off the helicopter and ran to the nearest bar.
Fair enough. I haven't seen it recently enough to remember he was in the helicopter. Still, I stand by the other things I said. Should've been post-credits.
With Hulk and Thor taking place semi-simultaneously, it now makes more sense that Agent Coulson is absent from The Hulk.
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I doubt Ross jumped off the helicopter and ran to the nearest bar.
Fair enough. I haven't seen it recently enough to remember he was in the helicopter. Still, I stand by the other things I said. Should've been post-credits.
With Hulk and Thor taking place semi-simultaneously, it now makes more sense that Agent Coulson is absent from The Hulk.
Oh I totally agree. I watched it recently and was ready to skip through the credits to catch the scene and was like "woah, this is pre-credits?"
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I also think that the final scene of Captain America was meant as a post-credits scene, but that they bumped it forward to make room for the Avengers teaser.
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I also think that the final scene of Captain America was meant as a post-credits scene, but that they bumped it forward to make room for the Avengers teaser.
I doubt that. They showed at the beginning that they've found Captain America in modern times, so why would they wait post-credit for that?
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I also think that the final scene of Captain America was meant as a post-credits scene, but that they bumped it forward to make room for the Avengers teaser.
I doubt that. They showed at the beginning that they've found Captain America in modern times, so why would they wait post-credit for that?
Because it would be a good cliff-hanger ending. You see that they found him in the wreckage, but don't know exactly what's going to happen next. I just thought the Times Square scene felt like a post-credits stinger (complete with Nick Fury appearance).
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I'm glad I searched before starting a bitching thread about this. At least now it will only be a bitch post.
This royally suck because Spiderman and Dare Devil are not part of it. The Marvel "left overs" included here are all lamo ass super heros I would have to force myself to read their comic books when there were no more new Batman, Superman or Spiderman for the month.
Marvel is X-Men, Spiderman and Dare Devil for me. I don't care how cool Sam Jackson and Robert Downy Jr. are capable of making everything look, this whole thing is generally very weak imo.
The main reason this is upsetting is that for the first time in blockbuster superhero movies history we get presented with such awesome cross overs yet it's done through these leftover superheros.
They have great casts though to be honest.
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I'm glad I searched before starting a bitching thread about this. At least now it will only be a bitch post.
This royally suck because Spiderman and Dare Devil are not part of it. The Marvel "left overs" included here are all lamo ass super heros I would have to force myself to read their comic books when there were no more new Batman, Superman or Spiderman for the month.
Marvel is X-Men, Spiderman and Dare Devil for me. I don't care how cool Sam Jackson and Robert Downy Jr. are capable of making everything look, this whole thing is generally very weak imo.
The main reason this is upsetting is that for the first time in blockbuster superhero movies history we get presented with such awesome cross overs yet it's done through these leftover superheros.
They have great casts though to be honest.
I wouldn't say it's weak just because you don't like it. I happen to like Iron Man, Cap, and Thor more than Spidey, Daredevil, or any of the X-Men (except maybe Wolverine).
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Yeah it's just what I think.
btw does anybody think the Eric Bana Hulk movie was much more interesting than the Ed Norton one? Except for the cast of course.
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Doubt it.
I think this all comes down to personal taste. Marvel's universe is HUGE. X-Men and Avengers were by far the two biggest/popular/well-known factions, so it's logical to make movies out of them. I never thought Daredevil was anything special, and THAT movie proves that the character alone cannot make a good or successful movie. On the flip-side, The Punisher was a cult classic character, and that's gone through three iterations to little fanfare. So again, the success of the movie is dependant on the quality of the story/acting.
I like what Marvel is doing with the Avengers... and they've been building up to it for years, maintaining interest and creating new fans.
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I love that just because you don't like them, that instantly makes them "lamo ass super heroe leftovers". :lol
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I also think that the final scene of Captain America was meant as a post-credits scene, but that they bumped it forward to make room for the Avengers teaser.
I doubt that. They showed at the beginning that they've found Captain America in modern times, so why would they wait post-credit for that?
Because it would be a good cliff-hanger ending. You see that they found him in the wreckage, but don't know exactly what's going to happen next. I just thought the Times Square scene felt like a post-credits stinger (complete with Nick Fury appearance).
If I'm not mistaken, that was the original plan. I seem to remember that Joe Johnston didn't even film the scene with Cap and Fury in Times Square (Whedon did) - he just agreed to add it to the end of the credits. Of course, that changed when the Avengers teaser trailer was ready.
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He shot it. The crowd footage shows Joe directing it. Whedon did have a little involvement though. He did a script polish to drop connections to all the other films. That's it, really.
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He shot it. The crowd footage shows Joe directing it. Whedon did have a little involvement though. He did a script polish to drop connections to all the other films. That's it, really.
I was just going to bring that up. The original photos of that scene were originally believed to be from The Avengers, but someone spotted Joe Johnston on set.
I don't see the Avengers as lame or leftover, as long as the absolute core group of characters are there (Cap, Iron Man, and Thor), it's solid. Plus, Thor is my favorite superhero of all time. :metal
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He shot it. The crowd footage shows Joe directing it. Whedon did have a little involvement though. He did a script polish to drop connections to all the other films. That's it, really.
Interesting. Whedon did direct the post-credits scene for Thor, though.
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Oh my, what is this?
https://www.beforethetrailer.com/2011/08/set-location-video-from-the-filming-of-the-avengers-in-cleveland-aug-19/
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Oh my, what is this?
https://www.beforethetrailer.com/2011/08/set-location-video-from-the-filming-of-the-avengers-in-cleveland-aug-19/
I can't tell if those random evil henchmen are wearing uniforms or CGI costumes so they can be replaced by something digital.
Possibly Hydra?
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They are mo-cap suits. They won't look like that in the final film, they will be digitally replaced by apparently alien beings (probably Skrulls, if the rumors are true).
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Yeah, those are the kind of suits Favreu used to then replace with the armors in IM2.
Also, this picture: (OBVIOUS SPOILER FOR AVENGERS)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=246132602088028&set=a.243659412335347.67352.152450181456271&type=1&theater
Possible Skrull gun?
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AVENGERS SPOILERS AHEAD!
Marvel screened a trailer for Avengers in D23.
https://movies.ign.com/articles/118/1189565p1.html
Beware of SPOILERS!
The presentation began with an assemblage of the "Avenger Initiative" codas and set-ups that were included in Marvel's past few films (Iron Man 1 and 2, The Incredible Hulk, Thor, Captain America: The First Avenger), essentially creating a prologue for how S.H.I.E.L.D. got the superhero team together. A team that director Nick Fury (Samuel L. Jackson) says was put together to fight the battles that we can't.
Feige then introduced a clip to the audience. The scene takes place aboard S.H.I.E.L.D.'s Helicarrier where there's a terse exchange between Fury and Loki (Hiddleston), who is caged inside a hi-tech chamber encased by glass walls. Loki sports much longer hair and an altered green and gold costume from he what he had in Thor. (Indeed, all of the characters have new duds in the film.)
Fury warns Loki that if he tries to escape, or even touches the glass, he'll plummet 30,000 feet to his doom. Fury then opens a portal to reveal the dark and stormy sky outside. Loki remarks that the cage he's in was built for someone different from him -- Hulk.
Loki turns to the surveillance camera, acknowledging those looking on elsewhere aboard the ship: Black Widow, Thor, Cap, Dr. Bruce Banner (Mark Ruffalo) and, at her post, Agent Maria Hill (Smulders). Loki teases Fury on how it must hurt them to have the Tesseract (Cosmic Cube), but to what end? Only to then see what real power is (meaning himself)? Fury glibly tells Loki to let him know if the "real power" would like a magazine while he's in his cell, a very Whedon-esque touch. Banner quips to his teammates about Loki, "Kinda grows on you, doesn't he?"
The sizzle reel footage showed quick flashes of the Avengers in action, specifically shots of what appeared like Cap and Thor clashing as well as a shot of Cap parachuting out of a plane. There was also a brief scene of Tony Stark dressed in a Black Sabbath t-shirt and making himself a drink (of course) as he addresses Loki. Tony runs down who he has on his side: Two master assassins (Widow and Hawkeye), a demigod, and a living legend who more than lives up to his legend. Loki remarks, "We have an army." To which Tony replies, drink in hand, "We have a Hulk." Cut to a close-up of Hulk roaring. The footage ended then, but the nerdgasms continued.
Bolded for possible Skrulls confirmation.
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"We have a Hulk."
:lol
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"We have a Hulk."
:lol
Something tells me most of that stuff won't be in the movie.
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I know a lot of trailers tend to cut stuff, but if I remember correctly, I don't think that's been the case with the past few Marvel movies.
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I know a lot of trailers tend to cut stuff, but if I remember correctly, I don't think that's been the case with the past few Marvel movies.
Well one of those "trailers" was almost literally Downey introducing every single member, I highly doubt the movie will introduce every member on a plane after they have been assembled.
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I know a lot of trailers tend to cut stuff, but if I remember correctly, I don't think that's been the case with the past few Marvel movies.
Well one of those "trailers" was almost literally Downey introducing every single member, I highly doubt the movie will introduce every member on a plane after they have been assembled.
I don't think it was so much an introduction, as it was Stark telling Loki "my army's better because we have so-and-so."
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I know a lot of trailers tend to cut stuff, but if I remember correctly, I don't think that's been the case with the past few Marvel movies.
Well one of those "trailers" was almost literally Downey introducing every single member, I highly doubt the movie will introduce every member on a plane after they have been assembled.
I don't think it was so much an introduction, as it was Stark telling Loki "my army's better because we have so-and-so."
And then he goes through and introduces every single member.
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I know a lot of trailers tend to cut stuff, but if I remember correctly, I don't think that's been the case with the past few Marvel movies.
Well one of those "trailers" was almost literally Downey introducing every single member, I highly doubt the movie will introduce every member on a plane after they have been assembled.
I don't think it was so much an introduction, as it was Stark telling Loki "my army's better because we have so-and-so."
And then he goes through and introduces every single member.
Tony runs down who he has on his side: Two master assassins (Widow and Hawkeye), a demigod, and a living legend who more than lives up to his legend. Loki remarks, "We have an army."
Am I missing something? We don't have any idea how Stark phrased it. I'm sure it wasn't "Oh yeah, we have Black Widow, Hawkeye, Thor, and Captain America." All we have is the description. I'm not sure where you're getting "introduction" from, but from that description I got the vibe that Stark and Loki are the only ones present in that scene.
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You didn't see the official transcription? Eh, here it is.
Loki: Who you gots on your side homes?
Tony: Let's see, we got me...Iron Man, an overly confident man who's genius is only surpassed by his ego and who's shady past had finally caught up with him ironically turning him into the studly superhero you see before you, two sexy assassin, one of whom you might know as Robin from How I Met Your Mother, and of course the big boobed karate girl form Thor. We have a Norse demi-god who for some reason has an Australian accent. We have Captain America, you couldn't have missed his movie....it just came out not too long ago, no one really expected him to be all stoic since he's really a guy who's usually a complete dick in his movies.
Loki: Yea? Well I got an army.
Tony: Well we got Edward Norton Mark Ruffalo.
Sounds like an intro to me.
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Who cares if he gave them an intro or not?!
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Who cares if he gave them an intro or not?!
Adami does. He has to go into "nitpick mode" every now and then.
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Who cares if he gave them an intro or not?!
Adami does. He has to go into "nitpick mode" every now and then.
You were the one laughing at "We have a hulk".
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Because it's funny.
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Because it's funny.
I was just pointing out that it might not be in the film, because intros that are that blatant are usually made for trailers nowadays and now put in films.
But I could be wrong, if anyone can deliver it, it's Downey.
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Short interviews with some of the cast after the D23 appearance. I especially like what Tom Hiddleston says about Loki.
https://www.ign.com/videos/2011/08/22/the-avengers-d23-press-line
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By the way, why won't they show us the footage from D23? I mean the actual movie footage.
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I don't know, maybe no one was expecting it and thus wasn't prepare to record it on a phone or Disney hasn't (and/or won't) release the footage.
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Short interviews with some of the cast after the D23 appearance. I especially like what Tom Hiddleston says about Loki.
https://www.ign.com/videos/2011/08/22/the-avengers-d23-press-line
I haven't seen her in much else, but Cobie Smulders sounds like an idiot there.
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Short interviews with some of the cast after the D23 appearance. I especially like what Tom Hiddleston says about Loki.
https://www.ign.com/videos/2011/08/22/the-avengers-d23-press-line
I haven't seen her in much else, but Cobie Smulders sounds like an idiot there.
It seem like she was trying to be "too cool".
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Short interviews with some of the cast after the D23 appearance. I especially like what Tom Hiddleston says about Loki.
https://www.ign.com/videos/2011/08/22/the-avengers-d23-press-line
I haven't seen her in much else, but Cobie Smulders sounds like an idiot there.
It seem like she was trying to be "too cool".
While on "too much pot."
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Tom Hiddleston/Loki is awesome.
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(https://themancavedaily.com/wp-content/gallery/the-anvers-skrull-attack/22the-avengers-on-set-435x580.jpg)
You ever get the feeling you're being check out by two Asgardian gods?
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I'd ran my Mjolnir into that, if you know what I mean.
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I'd ran my Mjolnir into that, if you know what I mean.
You mean penis in vagina.
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So I just saw Road to the Avengers bonus on the Thor DVD.
What a waste of time. All it was was a bunch of the actors and Joss admitting that they are in fact making the movie. Nothing more.
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THEY'RE MAKING AN AVENGERS MOVIE HOLY SHIT!
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I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT!!!
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WILL SPIDER-MAN BE IN IT?!
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WHO??
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Anyone think Cap might end up plowing the chick from How I Met Your Mother? Apparently she is signed on for nine films.
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Dimitrius, you need to spent more time paying attention and less time losing at fantasy football so you aren't always so out of the loop.
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Anyone think Cap might end up plowing the chick from How I Met Your Mother? Apparently she is signed on for nine films.
9 FILMS?!?!?! Assuming Avengers is 1, what the hell are the other 8?
She's awful in HIMYM, she better not be given too big a role.
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Dimitrius, you need to spent more time paying attention and less time losing at fantasy football so you aren't always so out of the loop.
You think I'm paying close attention to a SIX TEAM LEAGUE? Wigga please!
Also, WHAT? When did Cobbie Smulders signed on for 9 films?
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Anyone think Cap might end up plowing the chick from How I Met Your Mother? Apparently she is signed on for nine films.
9 FILMS?!?!?! Assuming Avengers is 1, what the hell are the other 8?
She's awful in HIMYM, she better not be given too big a role.
I would guess Avengers 2 and 3, as well as others various Marvel sequels. After Avengers, we're getting another Iron Man, two more Thors, and who knows what else.
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Oh there better be 2 more Avengers. And we better get SOME kind of appearance by Hank and Janet.
Also, would be awesome if Marvel could buy back the rights to The Fantastic Four and throw some of that in there.
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They did the same thing with Jackson after the first Iron Man. They won't necessarily use said person in nine films, but its always good to cover your bases and have the option, seeing as all the films crossover when possible. A year after Avengers, we have Thor 2 and Iron Man 3. The year after is still being worked out, but we'll likely see another Hulk, Captain America, Avengers sequel as well as a SHIELD spin-off and a plethora of smaller budgeted second tier character-based films, so there are a lot of options for these extended contracts.
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New Avengers trailer!
https://trailers.apple.com/trailers/marvel/avengers/
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I've watched it about three times so far. Looking good.
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Looking beyond amazing!!
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mmmm.... May can't come soon enough. Damn this is gonna be cool.
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Looks good, but why the hell was Thor fighting Captain America? I hate internal conflict like that for the very fact that I'm anticipating this movie because I want to see them team up. I hope it's something that's resolved quickly, like Thor comes back to earth and there's a two minute misunderstanding and they go on their merry way.
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I wasn't really psyched before, but the trailer really succeeded in waking up the young fanboy within me.
Pretty psyched now. :tup
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Looks good, but why the hell was Thor fighting Captain America? I hate internal conflict like that for the very fact that I'm anticipating this movie because I want to see them team up. I hope it's something that's resolved quickly, like Thor comes back to earth and there's a two minute misunderstanding and they go on their merry way.
That's certainly the most plausible reason.
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New Avengers trailer!
https://trailers.apple.com/trailers/marvel/avengers/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDV-t5sgDgI
YouTube link for folk who don't want to install QuickTime.
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It looks freakin awesome, and nice touch with the NIN music!
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Looks good, but why the hell was Thor fighting Captain America? I hate internal conflict like that for the very fact that I'm anticipating this movie because I want to see them team up. I hope it's something that's resolved quickly, like Thor comes back to earth and there's a two minute misunderstanding and they go on their merry way.
Most likely, since that duo is seen as a pair fighting guys in motion capture suits in the footage from Cleveland. However, I wouldn't be surprised to see a little pushing and shoving since Whedon said one of the conflicts of the film is about all of these massive egos having to work together.
Plus, it has to go quick because there is no way Cap could last more than a few minutes against Thor. :biggrin:
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Looks good, but why the hell was Thor fighting Captain America? I hate internal conflict like that for the very fact that I'm anticipating this movie because I want to see them team up. I hope it's something that's resolved quickly, like Thor comes back to earth and there's a two minute misunderstanding and they go on their merry way.
Superheroes fighting each other (usually due to some simple misunderstanding) before finally teaming up is a comics tradition!
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Looks good, but why the hell was Thor fighting Captain America? I hate internal conflict like that for the very fact that I'm anticipating this movie because I want to see them team up. I hope it's something that's resolved quickly, like Thor comes back to earth and there's a two minute misunderstanding and they go on their merry way.
There's a chance that the Skrull army will be lead by Loki in the film, who are shapeshifters.
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I don't think it's "there's a chance" and it's more like "100% guaranteed" that if they appear they're gonna be lead by Loki.
Though with the appearances of the Infinity Gauntlet and the Cosmic Cube, I hope that Thanos is working in the shadows. I think it would be very cool.
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Looks good, but why the hell was Thor fighting Captain America? I hate internal conflict like that for the very fact that I'm anticipating this movie because I want to see them team up. I hope it's something that's resolved quickly, like Thor comes back to earth and there's a two minute misunderstanding and they go on their merry way.
There's a chance that the Skrull army will be lead by Loki in the film, who are shapeshifters.
Loki himself could be projecting an image or controlling someone as well.
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Wow. Never thought of that. That would actually be kind of cool.
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Avengers is getting a 3D conversion...
https://www.thewrap.com/movies/article/avengers-movie-powers-3d-33880
So unnecessary.
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The first "Avengers" trailer was released in mid-October.
IT WAS A TEASER, NOT A TRAILER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! /rage
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Avengers is getting a 3D conversion...
https://www.thewrap.com/movies/article/avengers-movie-powers-3d-33880 (https://www.thewrap.com/movies/article/avengers-movie-powers-3d-33880)
So unnecessary.
Yeah, I'll find a 2D showing, thankyouverymuch.
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I assumed it WAS going to be converted to 3-D. I even thought it said so in the original trailer. Hm.
Well, 2-D for me all the way.
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Never got around to seeing Cap in theaters as I had said I was hoping to do earlier in the thread. But just rented it over the weekend. VERY good film. I am now psyched and ready...
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Yeah, I bought Cap and Thor with my Christmas money and got to see the 2 one-shot short films. The one on Thor is a nice to tie why Tony Stark appeared in TIH's post-credits scene and the one on Cap is... I don't know, just there to show that Coulson can kick ass, I guess.
Also, I'm still bummed Hugo Weaving was such a "by-the-numbers" bad guy in Cap. Never thought he was a threat!
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I haven't bought any of them, except Hulk, which I found for $9.99. I'm holding out for the inevitable box set with deleted scenes that will come out after Avengers.
As for Hugo Weaving, I actually thought his character was pretty good. The only thing that kinda left something to be desired was his rather pointless death. It was basically, "Let's fight! I will destroy you! No, wait--let's team up! No, wait--UNLIMITED POWER--gaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!
:mrlol: "
Not very satisfying.
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But who's to say he's dead?? He could come back, with the way they treated his "death scene". It's very similar to Loki's last scene in Thor.
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I think it would be even more cool if we found out that he learned to replicate himself and then he basically went around absorbing other people and turning them into clones of him, thereby threatening the very existence of the universe itself, and forcing good and evil to unite against him once and for all just as evil is about to crush humanity completely with evil robots. I mean, something like that is unprecedented in film, and I think Hugo Weaving could be just the guy to pull it off.
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Like, like he was a computer virus?!?!?!
I think we're onto something!
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But who's to say he's death??
say he's death??
he's death??
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Because he's the grim reaper now!!!
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Quite.
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Extended Super Bowl trailer for The Avengers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE09rUdpB94
I think it safe to say the Skrulls are the ones Loki brings.
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yummy. Saw the trailer, and got all warm and fuzzy again. 3 more months!
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Yes, I wasn't really that excited for this movie until that trailer. Well made. Goosebumps! I didn't think they could pull it off but maybe, just maybe this will be the badass-festival I once imagined it to be.
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Loki looks so fucking badass in that last part!
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I wouldn't jump on skrulls so quick. They don't look like that, nor fly ships like that...
I figured it was simply going to be descendants of the frost-giants. At the end of Thor, it seems logical that Loki would end up riding the bifrost back to his home planet. But regardless, we shall see. We know the infinity gauntlet gets introduced at some point, so who knows if that comes into play.
Regardless, the 360 camera pan of all of them gave my a stiffy. Straight up ;)
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Well, this is a movie, when do movies portrayed the source material as is?
I've heard a rumor that Marvel Films can't actually use the Skrulls name because it was sold with the rights to F4, but they could always use the Ultimate universe counterparts, the Chitauri, and it would work in the context of the films since they take elements from the mainstream Marvel universe and the Ultimate universe.
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I don't think it's the Skrulls.
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Whoever it is, I'm pretty excited. I think they've done a much better job on these than the vast majority of superhero movies out there, and I have high expectations for the Avengers movie even though I lost interest in the comic back in my comic collecting days.
I also did a poll for your favorite movie of the bunch so far: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=30850.0
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From the very brief glimpse we have of the aliens all I can make out is grayish skin/armor and what look to be pointed ears. So even though Marvel Studios guys have denied it being the Skrulls, they could just be fucking with us. :lol
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Trailer #2!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY9DnBNJFTI
I'm guessing that bit where IM, Thor and Cap looked to be fighting is either a real fight, or, and this is what I think it is, some kind of Danger Room-like training program.
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Trailer #2!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY9DnBNJFTI
I'm guessing that bit where IM, Thor and Cap looked to be fighting is either a real fight, or, and this is what I think it is, some kind of Danger Room-like training program.
It's probably a real fight. I read an interview a while back that Thor has a protective brotherly thing with Loki, and while he needs to take him down, doesn't want anyone else hurting him. So he may have went into that mode for a bit to stop Captain from going too far. I have seen clips where it looks like they make up pretty quickly though, so I don't expect that fight to be a major part of the film.
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That makes sense.
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Schwing!!!
The Avengers were always a group of dysfunctional maverick's, so to see them in-fighting isn't out of the question. My bet is that it's when Thor comes back to Earth, and he really doesn't know who's a friend/enemy, nor do Cap/Iron Man.
This is gonna be so good. I don't know which I'm looking more forward to, this or Dark Knight Rises. I'm gonna go with this, just because it's in theater's first.
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Oh yes sir *faps*
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Oh my god this is going to be so tits. That second trailer just solidified this as my most anticipated movie above TDKR. I love the inner turmoil within the group and their egos clashing; I can't wait to see how Banner/Hulk's personality fits into the mix. For the most part we've seen the ins and outs of all the other characters, but it'll be interesting to see Ruffalo meld with the characters we already know (Hawkeye excluded). Ohhh my goodness, I did not expect to be this excited for this film. But I am just a raging redwood ready to pierce the heavens.
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Oh my god this is going to be so tits. That second trailer just solidified this as my most anticipated movie above TDKR.
Woah woah, I'm excited too, but let's not talk crazy here ;)
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Word of mouth from people who have seen the film is apparently quite good, and Marvel is very very pleased with the film.
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Oh lord, this movie really just needs to be in theaters already :hat
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My penis is rock hard right now.
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Word of mouth from people who have seen the film is apparently quite good, and Marvel is very very pleased with the film.
:caffeine: :caffeine: :caffeine:
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New aliens look....alright. Was hoping for Skrulls, but oh well.
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Here's a new TV spot with a decent look at the "aliens"... as well as the Hulk having his way.
https://www.fandango.com/movie-trailer/exclusive:marvelstheavengersheadcounttvspot-trailer/30154/2217156036
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I saw it last night and it has made me lean more to them being some beings from one of the Nine Worlds than Skrulls/Chitauri.
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I saw it last night and it has made me lean more to them being some beings from one of the Nine Worlds than Skrulls/Chitauri.
What do you mean? Joss has blatantly confirmed that there are no Skrulls/Kree.
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I know. I was just hoping they meant no Skrulls because they were gonna use the Ultimate Universe equivalent, the Chitauri.
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I just figure they want the focus on Loki, not his minions. If they had a super cool shape shifting army, then yes that would be awesome for us marvel fans and so forth, but it would take a lot of focus off of everyone else. And considering how god damn huge the cast is already, I guess they didn't need the distraction.
EDIT: Plus, weren't they the enemy in both Marvel Avenger cartoons? Seems redundant to use them for this too. Especially how lame the cartoons made them.
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I can see that. Which is why I believe they're some beings from the Nine Worlds who Loki is controlling.
I've heard some people speculate that the flying serpent-looking thing that is showed at the end of the second trailer is the Midgard Serpent, which would fit seeing as Loki would know about it. I thought that was pretty interesting, though I don't think it will be the Midgard Serpent.
That point about the cartoon doesn't really matter though. It's all in how they would be portrayed. Joker has been used in everything Batman related, yet The Dark Knight was a refreshing and awesome take on the character.
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The line-up clip is fucking awesome. Goosebumps on my penis!(?) I can't wait to see this. I haven't seen a movie in an actual theater for a while.
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The poor Japanese, they have to wait until August apparently!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrCDmxER-vs
Japanese trailer I'd never seen before, with some new footage as well.
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Anyone catch these yet?
Black Widow Interrogation (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCqfncpIjJM)
Hulk smash (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlG7WxQXtoI)
There are a bunch of other new commercials. Here's a couple
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=2RaGeIeV25U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weW0JYJ2oD8&feature=related
3 more weeks!!!! :caffeine:
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It comes out here in 1 ½ week. I'm gonna watch it, but I doubt I'll be able to get good spots for the premiere. Hopefully I can see it as soon as possible though.
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Early buzz is insanely positive.
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Early buzz is insanely positive.
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See what I mean?
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Marvel will probably save the Skrulls for the sequel
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That's awesome! :lol
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Black Widow Interrogation (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCqfncpIjJM)
:rollin Best one yet!
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stumbled upon the Avengers premiere while in hollywood, saw Samuel L Jackson and Jeremy Renner. Wish i could have gotten into one of the preview showings, but it was still cool to be near the excitement..
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One week...
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One week...
Worst bump ever.
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I've seen worse.
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7 days. :biggrin:
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I've seen worse.
Dude I'm so inlove with Marvel at this point that I'd get wet over another Marvel Knights feature or a motion comic.
When you bump this thread, I get pregnant. When I read a post like "one week..." I have an abortion. Not cool dude, you just killed a child.
Murderer.
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I used to kill hundreds of children every night, no biggie.
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I used to kill hundreds of children every night, no biggie.
Yes but this child was a product of the union between Marvel and myself. IMAGINE WHAT IT COULD HAVE BEEN!
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I used to kill hundreds of children every night, no biggie.
Yes but this child was a product of the union between Marvel and myself. IMAGINE WHAT IT COULD HAVE BEEN!
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Anyone going to the midnight showing of Avengers tonight? Too late for me on a work night, but I'll definitely catch it this weekend (2D of course). Between 3 local cinemas I have a choice of like 12 viewing times lol.
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I was supposed to go but my buddy had to bail and everyone is going to sold out shows. I've gotta wait until Sunday afternoon now and go alone :-\
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I bet you won't go alone. At least one of your friends will want to watch it again. This movie is amazing. I saw it two days ago. I think Iron Man 1 & 2, Thor and Captain America are average movies at best but Avengers is something else. :metal
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Going tonight at midnight to see it in 3D. My preference would have been to see it in 2D, but my choices were either 3D in a dine-in theater with a good assigned seat or 2D at a regular theater where I would have had to get there an hour ahead of time to wait on line and maybe get a good seat.
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I saw it this morning... IT WAS ALL I WANTED AND MORE!!!
I will wait until some of you have seen it to talk spoilers, but trust me, BELIEVE THE HYPE!!
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I saw it this morning... IT WAS ALL I WANTED AND MORE!!!
I will wait until some of you have seen it to talk spoilers, but trust me, BELIEVE THE HYPE!!
I suggest waiting a few days, and then keeping it small font.
I am planning on seeing it tomorrow at 12 something pm. I figure I'll get there at least an hour early. Hope I get decent seats.
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I'm seeing Avengers tonight and I'm really excited about it. I also love that it's almost 2 ½ hours long, when I go to the cinema I like it when the movies are longer. Sort of feels like you get more for the money, even if the ticket costs slightly more. :P
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For everyone that hasn't seen it yet, expect a scene after the credits like always. Don't leave the theater.
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Avengers was amazing. Very highly recommended (if you like a good action flick).
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For everyone that hasn't seen it yet, expect a scene after the credits like always. Don't leave the theater.
Wouldn't expect anything less from the franchise.
Can I suggest those that have seen it and want to discuss it, start a "Spoiler Alert" thread/topic? I keep getting worried when I com in here that I'm gonna see details.
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Had a blast seeing it last night, the end sequence in Manhattan is just a phenomenal! I'm just annoyed that I thought I had time to hit the bathroom during the credits before the little post-movie teaser and I missed it. There is a second post-credits clip all the way at the end, though it's fairly inconsequential, just a little bit of fun.
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Had a blast seeing it last night, the end sequence in Manhattan is just a phenomenal! I'm just annoyed that I thought I had time to hit the bathroom during the credits before the little post-movie teaser and I missed it. There is a second post-credits clip all the way at the end, though it's fairly inconsequential, just a little bit of fun.
You missed the first one?!?! Duuuudeee you missed the whole setup for the sequel!!
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Standing outside the theater waiting for the avengers movie. Seen already at least 2 JLA shirts. Ha bloody hah.
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Had a blast seeing it last night, the end sequence in Manhattan is just a phenomenal! I'm just annoyed that I thought I had time to hit the bathroom during the credits before the little post-movie teaser and I missed it. There is a second post-credits clip all the way at the end, though it's fairly inconsequential, just a little bit of fun.
I saw the first post-credits sequence, but left afterward thinking that it was the only one.
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Had a blast seeing it last night, the end sequence in Manhattan is just a phenomenal! I'm just annoyed that I thought I had time to hit the bathroom during the credits before the little post-movie teaser and I missed it. There is a second post-credits clip all the way at the end, though it's fairly inconsequential, just a little bit of fun.
I saw the first post-credits sequence, but left afterward thinking that it was the only one.
The second one is more a continuation of a joke Stark makes towards the end of the movie than anything else.
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Just got back from Avengers. It delivers in every way possible, but especially that final battle in Manhattan. So much good in it. Will definitely see it again.
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Had a blast seeing it last night, the end sequence in Manhattan is just a phenomenal! I'm just annoyed that I thought I had time to hit the bathroom during the credits before the little post-movie teaser and I missed it. There is a second post-credits clip all the way at the end, though it's fairly inconsequential, just a little bit of fun.
You missed the first one?!?! Duuuudeee you missed the whole setup for the sequel!!
I know, I know. Good thing I plan on seeing it again :biggrin:
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Well.........that was one of the most incredible action movies I've ever seen.
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Can't wait to see it tomorrow night.
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Had a blast seeing it last night, the end sequence in Manhattan is just a phenomenal! I'm just annoyed that I thought I had time to hit the bathroom during the credits before the little post-movie teaser and I missed it. There is a second post-credits clip all the way at the end, though it's fairly inconsequential, just a little bit of fun.
I saw the first post-credits sequence, but left afterward thinking that it was the only one.
The second one is more a continuation of a joke Stark makes towards the end of the movie than anything else.
Yep, saw it online. Nothing special but the visual gag was fun.
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Just came home from seeing Avengers, it was epic. I'll try to not spoil any scenes or the story, but instead just sum up some thoughts.
I had pretty high expectations, but they were fulfilled and even topped. I was perhaps a bit sceptical to the whole "how will they fit all these dudes into a movie, and give them all time?", but I think the result was good. Everyone had their time, and nothing felt rushed.
Mark Ruffalo impressed me with his performance, the others were great, but I already knew that from the other movies. I would probably say that I enjoyed this movie the most out of the Marvel-movies so far. (Iron Man & IM2, Incredible Hulk, Thor and Captain America)
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Mark Ruffalo was great. Everyone was great. Not a single weak link as far as I'm concerned.
Also, most excited mid credits scene ever.
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I did feel like Hawkeye got the shaft in terms of character development in the film, but apart from that I can't complain about a thing.
Also, Marvel, give me a Banner/Stark buddy-cop film!
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I did feel like Hawkeye got the shaft in terms of character development in the film, but apart from that I can't complain about a thing.
Well, I have a feeling he won't be gone from future movies. And he's the only Avenger who had 0 development in any other movie, so he got less because he had nothing to start off with.
Also, Marvel, give me a Banner/Stark buddy-cop film!
I believe it's called Zodiac.
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No! I want them AS Tony Stark and Bruce Banner. Zodiac bored me to death.
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No! I want them AS Tony Stark and Bruce Banner. Zodiac bored me to death.
I honestly wouldn't mind future movies teaming up people either. I don't see why it has to be "Totally alone" or "Complete Avengers". I see no reason why 2 main Avengers can't share a movie equally. Like a Marvel movie where Natasha is sent to interrogate Jane Foster and is only able to do so by seducing her and then making love to her for 2 hours.
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No! I want them AS Tony Stark and Bruce Banner. Zodiac bored me to death.
I honestly wouldn't mind future movies teaming up people either. I don't see why it has to be "Totally alone" or "Complete Avengers". I see no reason why 2 main Avengers can't share a movie equally. Like a Marvel movie where Natasha is sent to interrogate Jane Foster and is only able to do so by seducing her and then making love to her for 2 hours.
I'll allow it.
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No! I want them AS Tony Stark and Bruce Banner. Zodiac bored me to death.
I honestly wouldn't mind future movies teaming up people either. I don't see why it has to be "Totally alone" or "Complete Avengers". I see no reason why 2 main Avengers can't share a movie equally. Like a Marvel movie where Natasha is sent to interrogate Jane Foster and is only able to do so by seducing her and then making love to her for 2 hours.
:lol
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No! I want them AS Tony Stark and Bruce Banner. Zodiac bored me to death.
I honestly wouldn't mind future movies teaming up people either. I don't see why it has to be "Totally alone" or "Complete Avengers". I see no reason why 2 main Avengers can't share a movie equally. Like a Marvel movie where Natasha is sent to interrogate Jane Foster and is only able to do so by seducing her and then making love to her for 2 hours.
Go on.
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Well played.
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That picture has so much win that I'm not even sure where to begin.
One thing I would like to see would be Spider-Man in a "team-up" movie, but if they would include him, then you also have Fantastic Four and X-Men, add the Avengers and you get way too many people for a movie. :lol
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You mean a Spider-Man "team-up" where he teams up with all those groups? Or like it would be a fourth franchise with a lot of people?
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You mean a Spider-Man "team-up" where he teams up with all those groups? Or like it would be a fourth franchise with a lot of people?
Nah, like include Spider-Man with the Avengers or something. Perhaps I phrased it poorly, but what I meant was that if they include Spider-Man in a movie like that, people might say "why not Fantastic Four or X-Men as well?", The Avengers has a core that consists of Iron-Man, Thor, Captain America and Hulk, and even if some of the others I mentioned have been in the comics, it's sort of a situation where, if you're gonna have one in, why not the others? :P
So in the end, while I would love to see Spider-Man team up with other Marvel superheroes, I doubt it will happen.
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It won't happen because all those franchises movie rights are own by different companies. :lol
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Yeah I know, it's kinda lame to be honest.
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I would love to see the Secret Wars.
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I think Marvel needs to diversify it's live action element. Their cartoons and animated stuff are great, and should keep going.
However, their live action stuff doesn't need to always be summer huge action block busters. Yes, for Iron Man, Thor, Hulk etc those are the best formats. However they can explore smaller indie movies for Hank Pymm and The Black Panther.
And even though they're too big of stars for it, Hawkeye and Widow would make an excellent TV show. Or find another character or group and make a live action TV show. Then randomly have different people from different ones show up on each others.
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The Runaways would be perfect for a TV show.
To speak a bit of Avengers MIGHT BE SPOILERS:
Thor had the funniest line in the whole movie in my opinion.
Thor: "Watch what you say, Loki is an Asgardian and my brother."
Black Widow: "He's kill 80 people in 2 days!"
Thor: "...he's adopted"
I laugh for a good minute because of that.
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Holy crap, that was some first-rate kick-ass blockbuster action right there. Simply awesome. In fact, that is the kind of film for which the word "awesome" was invented.
Yes, that line from Thor was hilarious. In fact, there was lots of humor in the film, which was great.
BTW, the old long-time comics fan in me was extremely pleased to see that the SHIELD base which started the film was Project Pegasus.
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Okay if you guys could help me out. Joss hinted that he'd throw in a few subtle nods to other marvel things. Now, I obviously missed those. So keeping the font small and stuff, could anyone point out any that they saw? Subtle ones mind you, so don't count things like thanos at the end or anything.
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Off the top of my head, not too many are coming to mind, but I wasn't really looking for them.
The general that was interrogating the Black Widow was a real character from her mythos. I'll have to think about any more.
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I couldn't think of any more off the top of my head, and so I went online and found that Kevin Feige and Joss Whedon agreed not to put any in this film like some that were in the others.
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Sweet jesus that was awesome.
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Sweet jesus that was awesome.
I know, right?
BTW, the Hulk is fucking awesome.
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Sweet jesus that was awesome.
I know, right?
BTW, the Hulk is fucking awesome.
I gotta tell you, I was originally going to say "Yea, Joss really knew how to write for the hulk" then I was going to add "Oh yea, he also really knew how to write Iron Man......and Captain America..........and Thor............and Loki.............and Natasha...........and Clint.............damnit, everyone" and figured I'd just say "Yea, Joss knew how to write this movie amazingly well".
Seriously, Joss needs to do the sequel, writing and directing again.
Also, I hope that Marvel doesn't look at this movie and say "Next Marvel movies need to be bigger". Cause honestly, I can't imagine it going any bigger, not even a sequel. I hope they don't try.
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Avengers kicked ass. Not much else I can say that's new. I haven't seen a film twice in the theater in 7 years, but I might make an exception with this one.
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THAT WAS AWESOME!!!
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I hope that Marvel doesn't look at this movie and say "Next Marvel movies need to be bigger". Cause honestly, I can't imagine it going any bigger, not even a sequel. I hope they don't try.
I don't think they will, at least not with their next few movies. They apparently want the individual films (Iron Man 3, Thor 2, Captain America 2) to really focus on those characters, and not try to outdo themselves with each new film.
As for the sequel to Avengers, all bets are off.
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After seeing Mark's performance, I'm really looking forward to his own Hulk movie actually. Are there plans for one?
Also, I was really hoping that Ant/Giant Man and Black Panther can show up at some point. However after seeing The Avengers, I have no idea what they would add. Never the less, I love those characters and would kill to see their own movies. Of course having Nathan Fillion as Hank and Morena Baccarin as Wasp.
Hell, while we're at it, cast Adam Baldwin as The Punisher, Jewel Stait as Invisible Woman, Sean Maher as The Vision, Alan Tudyk as Steve the Pirate, Gina Torres as Storm, Ron Glass as Nick Fury's father, and Summer Glau as Spider Woman.
Oh yes, and Christina Hendricks as Scarlet Witch.
Oh yeaaaaa.
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*Spoiler*
The best scene in the whole movie....when Hulk beats the living fuck out of Loki. I haven't laughed that hard at a movie in a long time. I know it wouldn't have worked, but if Loki had died, that would have been the best Death Scene ever.
I don't normally watch too many superhero movies, but before this Iron Man was my favorite, but I gotta give this one pros as my favorite superhero movie, at least in the Marvel world. Tony Stark is just a fucking boss!
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The best scene in the whole movie....when Hulk beats the living fuck out of Loki. I haven't laughed that hard at a movie in a long time. I know it wouldn't have worked, but if Loki had died, that would have been the best Death Scene ever.
I don't normally watch too many superhero movies, but before this Iron Man was my favorite, but I gotta give this one pros as my favorite superhero movie, at least in the Marvel world. Tony Stark is just a fucking boss!
Spoiler tags would be nice for the people who haven't seen the movie yet. And yes, the theater was applauding/laughing so hard that I had to look up online what hulk said after that.
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I'd love to see some of these movies between now and Avengers 2 feature two to three members teaming up. A movie featuring an Iron Man + Hulk combo for example, would be awesome :hat
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Yeah, that scene was fucking gold.
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Hell, while we're at it, cast Adam Baldwin as The Punisher...
Actually, Kevin Feige recently said that the Punisher rights had reverted back to Marvel, and they will be doing their version of a Punisher film. He also said that it would be more "Frank Castle" than "Punisher."
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After seeing Mark's performance, I'm really looking forward to his own Hulk movie actually. Are there plans for one?
I agree, Mark Ruffalo was really good. I read somewhere that he has signed on for up to 6 more movies, so hopefully we'll see a Hulk movie not too far in the future. https://www.inquisitr.com/228349/mark-ruffalo-to-play-hulk-in-six-more-movies/
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They originally weren't planning on bringing back the Hulk for another solo film, leaving him for guest roles in other films or Avengers sequels. However, the response to him in The Avengers was so good that they are considering another solo film for him.
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I'd love to see some of these movies between now and Avengers 2 feature two to three members teaming up. A movie featuring an Iron Man + Hulk combo for example, would be awesome :hat
I thought the same exact thing, especially since (*spoiler?*) they sort of set it up. But interviews seem to indicate that Iron Man 3 will only contain his character of the Avengers :-\
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Seriously, Joss needs to do the sequel, writing and directing again.
Also, I hope that Marvel doesn't look at this movie and say "Next Marvel movies need to be bigger". Cause honestly, I can't imagine it going any bigger, not even a sequel. I hope they don't try.
Whedon has already said that, if he does a sequel, he wants to scale it back and not try to go bigger than the first one.
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I don't see how they could really go 'bigger' and not be ridiculous. I mean, what could they do, The Avengers vs. Nyarlathotep and Yog-Sothoth?
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Avengerthulhu? That could be funny...
... but it would probably be a bit of a turd.
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Avengers 2 - Avengers team up with Fantastic Four and Spider-Man to stop the Sinister Six. :biggrin:
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https://bit.ly/KF8dyZ Projected $200 million opening weekend (previous record was $169 for the final Harry Potter movie) :hat
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I'd love to see some of these movies between now and Avengers 2 feature two to three members teaming up. A movie featuring an Iron Man + Hulk combo for example, would be awesome :hat
YES!!
Joss Whedon does have an option to direct Avengers 2 and has already stated that if they do do it, it would be more "More personal, more painful... By being the next thing that should happen to these characters, and not just a rehash of what seemed to work the first time. By having a theme that is completely fresh and organic to itself."
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I'd love to see some of these movies between now and Avengers 2 feature two to three members teaming up. A movie featuring an Iron Man + Hulk combo for example, would be awesome :hat
YES!!
Joss Whedon does have an option to direct Avengers 2 and has already stated that if they do do it, it would be more "More personal, more painful... By being the next thing that should happen to these characters, and not just a rehash of what seemed to work the first time. By having a theme that is completely fresh and organic to itself."
Which is reason enough (based on standard hollywood procedures) to can Whedon and find someone who WILL just rehash everything. I hope Marvel is better than that. I think they are, I just hope I'm right.
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Marvel HAS to be more intelligent than that! Would an Avengers 2 movie like make the same kind of money? Maybe, maybe not. Would that make it a very good sequel? Absolutely!
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Marvel HAS to be more intelligent than that! Would an Avengers 2 movie like make the same kind of money? Maybe, maybe not. Would that make it a very good sequel? Absolutely!
I have the highest hopes dude. Actually, Iron Man 3 will help put some of those doubts to ease. Iron Man was huge, and it was Iron Man fights a huge other guy in a robot suit. So what was Iron Man 2? That times 10. And it wasn't very good. I hope they learned from that mistake and stop trying to follow that formula. It looks like they have, based on interviews.
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I hope it's true that their going to make the Extremis story be the plot of IM3. That would be great!
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I hope it's true that their going to make the Extremis story be the plot of IM3. That would be great!
I somehow doubt it will be the main story. But the guy who leaks Extremis is in the movie, so I'm sure it will at least be mentioned.
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I don't know about the guy, but the chick who develops the Extremis enhancement, Maya Hansen, is being cast.
EDIT: Oh I remember now who you mean, that's the one Guy Pearce is being rumored for.
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Saw it today, absolutely loved it. Easily the best Marvel film ever.
The Hulk stole the show for me, Ruffalo did such a great job with it. And yeah, that scene with Loki was absolutely brilliant!
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Marvel HAS to be more intelligent than that! Would an Avengers 2 movie like make the same kind of money? Maybe, maybe not. Would that make it a very good sequel? Absolutely!
Marvel is definitely smart enough. They're track record is evidence of that. It's Disney we need to worry about.
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Since the announcement of that acquisition I've been a little wary. I just hope Disney acts as a bank and lets Marvel Studios do what they want. Wishful thinking, I know.
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$200 million opening weekend. Had to happen sometime. Couldn't happen for a better film.
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saw it twice this weekend, 2D then 3D. and oh. my. god. its incredible. I still can't believe how awesome it was. whedon wins. hard.
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It's been a long time since I've been this satisfied with a film. Especially one I hyped up so much for myself.
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Avengers was a blast. I have to go with others that Hulk stole the show. Everyone got good screen time! I stayed for the only one of the ending credits. I didn't realize there was a second one.
I know Batman is DC but does The Dark Knight Rises have a shot at beating The Avengers.
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Box office wise... At first I was thinking yes, but after seeing the weekend draw, not so sure.
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Avengers was a blast. I have to go with others that Hulk stole the show. Everyone got good screen time! I stayed for the only one of the ending credits. I didn't realize there was a second one.
I know Batman is DC but does The Dark Knight Rises have a shot at beating The Avengers.
I doubt it. I mean it will do VERY VERY well. But it's also the third in the series. People aren't rushing to the theater to see something new, you know? It's established, so people may feel they can take their time.
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Avengers was a blast. I have to go with others that Hulk stole the show. Everyone got good screen time! I stayed for the only one of the ending credits. I didn't realize there was a second one.
I know Batman is DC but does The Dark Knight Rises have a shot at beating The Avengers.
I doubt it. I mean it will do VERY VERY well. But it's also the third in the series. People aren't rushing to the theater to see something new, you know? It's established, so people may feel they can take their time.
Well by that logic, I don't think Dark Knight would've done the business it did.
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Avengers was a blast. I have to go with others that Hulk stole the show. Everyone got good screen time! I stayed for the only one of the ending credits. I didn't realize there was a second one.
I know Batman is DC but does The Dark Knight Rises have a shot at beating The Avengers.
I doubt it. I mean it will do VERY VERY well. But it's also the third in the series. People aren't rushing to the theater to see something new, you know? It's established, so people may feel they can take their time.
Well by that logic, I don't think Dark Knight would've done the business it did.
A huge part of that was Heath Ledger dying.
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Avengers was a blast. I have to go with others that Hulk stole the show. Everyone got good screen time! I stayed for the only one of the ending credits. I didn't realize there was a second one.
I know Batman is DC but does The Dark Knight Rises have a shot at beating The Avengers.
I doubt it. I mean it will do VERY VERY well. But it's also the third in the series. People aren't rushing to the theater to see something new, you know? It's established, so people may feel they can take their time.
It's not just THIRD in a series, it is LAST in a series. See the huge box office for the last Harry Potter film.
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Being a lifelong comic book geek, I was thrilled with The Avengers. Awesome. I saw the first clip during the credits which sets the stage for Gallactica, eater of worlds! What was the second clip?
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Small font and spoiler alerts for those few that were under a rock and didn't see it already.
Just went last night... 3D IMAX. Did not disappoint at all. One thing not talked about ... Pepper's legs. Nice. :eyebrows:
Overall perfect blend of an awesome story, great acting, killer action, mixed with a nice amount of comedic relief.
Movie of the year. Not sure if TDK Rises can top it.
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I really don't have much a desire to see this film, I'll wait until it comes out on DVD to rent it. I'm not seeing it because I want to be "that guy" I just am not that big of a super hero fan. The only movies I've seen are the Spiderman movies (starting with the most recent one with the Green Goblin) and the newest Hulk. I've never read or comic book, and am not really sure if I even know how :lol
A question I do have though... How was the 3D? A lot of people I know who usually HATE 3D films said it was excellent and really enhanced the viewing experience. Confirm or deny? How did it size up to Avatar? (I'm referring only to the 3D and visuals) I saw a preview for the movie when I saw Titanic 3D at imaxx and it looked pretty stellar.
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Personally, I like movies in 3D. When I've got the choice, I'll go 3D over 2D.
And this is the kind of action movie that MUST be seen on the big screen. Invest $10 and go see it.
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*Spoiler*
The best scene in the whole movie....when Hulk beats the living fuck out of Loki. I haven't laughed that hard at a movie in a long time. I know it wouldn't have worked, but if Loki had died, that would have been the best Death Scene ever.
I don't normally watch too many superhero movies, but before this Iron Man was my favorite, but I gotta give this one pros as my favorite superhero movie, at least in the Marvel world. Tony Stark is just a fucking boss!
That's because Downey is by far the best actor in the group.
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I didn't see the 3D because it really hurts my eyes, but it's definitely worth the money to see it in theaters.
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I saw the 2D version (twice). I don't go to 3D screenings unless the movies is actually shot in 3D.
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Being a lifelong comic book geek, I was thrilled with The Avengers. Awesome. I saw the first clip during the credits which sets the stage for Gallactica, eater of worlds!
Lifelong comic book geek, huh?
What was the second clip?
Go see it again to find out. ;)
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Being a lifelong comic book geek, I was thrilled with The Avengers. Awesome. I saw the first clip during the credits which sets the stage for Gallactica, eater of worlds!
Lifelong comic book geek, huh?
My thoughts exactly! :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
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Being a lifelong comic book geek, I was thrilled with The Avengers. Awesome. I saw the first clip during the credits which sets the stage for Gallactica, eater of worlds!
Lifelong comic book geek, huh?
lol
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I'm not a comic book geek, so I didn't get the end. Who is it?
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I'm not a comic book geek, so I didn't get the end. Who is it?
SPOILERS INCOMING
Well, for one, it's not Gallactica since that character doesn't exist on the Marvel U and it's not Galactus because he has a purple hat/clothes and not skin (also, he's part of the FF franchise so that means he won't appear on Marvel Studios movies). That's Thanos, the Mad Titan. An unruly character who is, literally, in love with Marvel U's personification of Death.
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Looks like I'll have my first Imax experience (have seen one regular 3D movie before) on Friday when I see The Avengers. I am so super fucking psyched.
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I finally saw it last night. I loved the film, but it's not the perfect film everyone told me it was. There were parts that dragged that lost me. Exposition talked rather than shown. However, the good outweighs the bad. The last 30 minutes or so is amazing. I have to agree on a review I read. that in the end, this shows the joy of superhero films. To me, that joy is influenced by Superman: The Movie. The Hulk is perfect. Stole the show in my opinion. Tom Hiddleston's Loki is one of the best superhero movie villains ever. He was one of my favorite things about The Avengers and Thor. The action is absolutely mind-blowing. I just wish my storytelling experience with The Avengers was better tailored. Hopefully, the second will have a better polished script and have more going on, expositionally. However, Joss Whedon, to his credit, did a damn fine job of bringing the characters arcs to full circle, in a way I have never seen before.
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Being a lifelong comic book geek, I was thrilled with The Avengers. Awesome. I saw the first clip during the credits which sets the stage for Gallactica, eater of worlds!
Lifelong comic book geek, huh?
lol
:hat
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The Avengers :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
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*Spoiler*
The best scene in the whole movie....when Hulk beats the living fuck out of Loki. I haven't laughed that hard at a movie in a long time. I know it wouldn't have worked, but if Loki had died, that would have been the best Death Scene ever.
I don't normally watch too many superhero movies, but before this Iron Man was my favorite, but I gotta give this one pros as my favorite superhero movie, at least in the Marvel world. Tony Stark is just a fucking boss!
That's because Downey is by far the best actor in the group.
I think Tom Hiddleston deserves some love in this category as well.
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In prep for watching the Avengers this Sunday, Mrs. C's kid and I just watched Captain America, which we hadn't seen yet.
So. Fucking. Excellent.
Gonna try to watch Thor tomorrow night, which we haven't seen either.
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*Spoiler*
The best scene in the whole movie....when Hulk beats the living fuck out of Loki. I haven't laughed that hard at a movie in a long time. I know it wouldn't have worked, but if Loki had died, that would have been the best Death Scene ever.
I don't normally watch too many superhero movies, but before this Iron Man was my favorite, but I gotta give this one pros as my favorite superhero movie, at least in the Marvel world. Tony Stark is just a fucking boss!
That's because Downey is by far the best actor in the group.
I think Tom Hiddleston deserves some love in this category as well.
I'll give him some love! He's so good as Loki!! He's such a badass on Avengers!
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That's my secret.....I'm always angry.
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Also, away from The Avengers, one character that Marvel REALLY needs to get back is Norrin Radd. Seriously, if they could pull off a good movie about him that would be amazing.
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That's my secret.....I'm always angry.
That's easily the moment of the film for me. A perfect dose of amazement and gut-busting laughter.
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Just got back from seeing it (again) with jingle.son. New favorite line from the movie. when Iron Man takes Hawkeye up to the rooftops ... "better clench up Legolas"
:rollin :rollin
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Ohhhh man my childhood just got roided up big time. That was so incredibly satisfying! Everything about it blew me away and I could not have expected something so massively goose-bump-inducing. Spoilers abound for the next few sentences. I too, much like what seems like literally every other person that has seen it, was literally jacking off (voraciously) to the scene in which Hulk pummels Loki after his pathetic speech about not being bullied and then WHAM WHAM WHAM WHAM "Tch...Puny god..." :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :heart :metal Lord, I want to be the Hulk so badly. I want a big, green cucumber dick. I want it. I want it willingly. End spoilers, they are no longer abound; I have locked them up in that Hulk cage. Also, Hiddelston did a superb job on creating a better Loki than the subpar experience that was Thor (his performance, not the entirety of the film); he brought his game, gave the character depth, a terrifying, reachable goal, and most of all, a reason to both love and hate him, as well as feel a bit of sympathy for the sub-human god. The film was all around spectacular and I really did not expect to like it this much.
I'll say one thing about superhero movies that come after this: They had better have their own flare and individuality because any comparisons to this movie will fail for the one being compared, I'm afraid. Even Dark Knight Rises has some tough competition with this one, and I'm not even going to think or discuss the financial bomb that this lit. So many great scenes, so many goosebumps, so many boners. SO MANY. I've seen it three times so far; the first time was in 3D, which was my first 3D movie, and I completely got the gist of the scam and will probably never see another 3D movie again. While it didn't detract from the experience, it didn't make it any better either. That said, it was fun, nothing more, perhaps something less if I wasn't blazed. The next two viewings really solidified my boner (pun not intended); the colors were vibrant, the cinematography, beautiful; and most of all, the CG and action scenes all around really just made my jaw drop. It was the best use of technology I've ever seen in a movie (I will fucking rape you if you mention Avatar, that modicum of pussy fart).
So enjoyable. I love Marvel. I am really, really hoping that Whedon is on board for future installments because he just became my true super hero for bringing this to life and doing such a marvelous (pun not intended again, shit) job at it. Really, I love you, Mr. Whedon. BRAVO! Oh and one more spoiler: MOTHER FUCKING THANOS!!!!! WOOTY PATOOOOOTY!!!!!! YEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS I'M CUMMMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING!!!!! End cumming.
I honestly don't know if I can even go back and watch the movies that precede this because they just won't get my blood flowing like this movie did. God, I haven't had so much fun in a movie theater since I got a blowjob in one, and this beats that. It fucking does. Don't look at me like that. Scarlett Johansson's butt.
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So I saw it last night, and it exceeded all possible expectations. Mark Ruffalo really sold me on replacing Norton, Hawkeye wasn't just a superfluous extra (the way many mutants have been in the last few X-Men movies), everyone got screen time and we had a good idea of their characters even if we hadn't seen all of the earlier movies, and Black Widow. BLACK. FUCKING. WIDOW. Going from a sex icon in Iron Man 2 who served little real purpose in the plot (I remember she had to fight some people. Don't remember why. I think they were the non-Whiplash villain's goons) to probably the most badass heroine ever put on the screen. Heck, one of the most badass superheroes, period. I also loved Whedon's writing in this movie. I mean, I had faith because this is the guy who made you care about 9 main characters in Serenity and made it work. Of course he could do it with 6 Avengers plus Fury, Coulson, and Loki.
So yeah, I loved it. I'll be seeing it again.
Oh yeah, seeing Thanos at the end was pretty awesome, even though I mistook it for a classic skrull based on the chin (I figured the purple skin was a lighting thing). I'd love to see a secret invasion movie.
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Watched Thor tonight. So cool. So looking forward to the Avengers.
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BLACK. FUCKING. WIDOW. Going from a sex icon in Iron Man 2 who served little real purpose in the plot (I remember she had to fight some people. Don't remember why. I think they were the non-Whiplash villain's goons) to probably the most badass heroine ever put on the screen.
I disagree regarding her role in IM2. She was intentionally underdeveloped in IM2 because she was a mole placed within Stark's organization by SHIELD, so of course we were not supposed to know much about her before her real identity was eventually revealed late in the film. The audience was intentionally kept in the dark about who she was. Add to that the fact that, since it was an IM film, they couldn't have her upstage (or even be equal to) the main character. She may have been a second-tier character in terms of screen time and character development, but she definitely served a purpose.
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Here's what I don't get about Iron Man though- if he's a Stark, why does his armor bear the colors of House Lannister????
(badum-ting!)
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:|
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It....it was a joke. I made a joke.
:blush
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Do you even know what a joke is?
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I made a joke.
You didn't.
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Nah, pretty sure I did. It's a reference to another fictional universe, so if you're unfamiliar with that then you wouldn't get the joke, but just because you don't get it doesn't mean it's not a joke. Never said it was a good joke or a funny joke however. In fact it was meant to be a dumb joke. Judging from what I've seen on this forum having a joke be funny, tasteful or good is not a requirement for posting it.
Also, bite me.
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Also, bite me.
Oh come on, stop teasing me. Last time you slapped me for even using a little teeth.
Anywho, so how do we forced Sony and Fox or whoever to sell back the rights of X-Men, FF and Spiderman back to Marvel?
One of the things I missed so much in Captain America was a small Logan cameo.
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Oh, man... I didn't think about that. Indeed that would have been so awesome and enjoyable to see. Damn...
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Even if they did get the rights to FF, X-Men and Spider-Man, I wonder how they would squeeze more awesomeness into a movie. Avengers + Fantastic Four + X-Men and Spider-Man vs something would be awesome, but every hero would get like 2 minutes screentime, unless they made the movie 4 hours long or something. :lol
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*Spoiler*
The best scene in the whole movie....when Hulk beats the living fuck out of Loki. I haven't laughed that hard at a movie in a long time. I know it wouldn't have worked, but if Loki had died, that would have been the best Death Scene ever.
I don't normally watch too many superhero movies, but before this Iron Man was my favorite, but I gotta give this one pros as my favorite superhero movie, at least in the Marvel world. Tony Stark is just a fucking boss!
That's because Downey is by far the best actor in the group.
I think Tom Hiddleston deserves some love in this category as well.
Well, by "group" I meant the Avengers/Shield. But even so, we can't compare Hiddleston's body of work to Downey's.
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Even if they did get the rights to FF, X-Men and Spider-Man, I wonder how they would squeeze more awesomeness into a movie. Avengers + Fantastic Four + X-Men and Spider-Man vs something would be awesome, but every hero would get like 2 minutes screentime, unless they made the movie 4 hours long or something. :lol
Oh no no no. They don't need a movie with ALL of them. They just need the ability to have transfers if necessary. Have Spiderman show up in a FF movie. Have Thing fight the Hulk in a hulk movie. Have Reed Richards and Susan Storm show up in Iron Man 4, you know? They don't need to all be together all of the time, but knowing that anyone could show up in any movie would make it SOO much cooler. As of now when you see a Marvel universe movie, you know no one from the FF, or X-men or Spiderman will ever show up. Imagine if you didn't know that. Remember when thanos surprised the hell out of everyone? Imagine Wolverine showing up in an Avengers movie with no announcment. Yea.
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Yeah I know what you mean, I love cameos like that.
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i guess spoiler if you havent seen x-men first class?
imagine how funny it would be if the hugh jackman cameo in first class was actually in the avengers? Black Widow walks into the bar looking to recruit logan for the avengers, "go fuck yourself".
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i guess spoiler if you havent seen x-men first class?
imagine how funny it would be if the hugh jackman cameo in first class was actually in the avengers? Black Widow walks into the bar looking to recruit logan for the avengers, "go fuck yourself".
That would've been brilliant. He coulda been "the big guy".
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Damn, I was all pumped to go see this today, then my friend got called into work, and wants to wait till next week. Thinking about bailing on him and seeing it anyways.
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Damn, I was all pumped to go see this today, then my friend got called into work, and wants to wait till next week. Thinking about bailing on him and seeing it anyways.
DO IT!
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I wouldn't; this is definitely a movie better enjoyed in the company of (a) friend(s). The first time I saw it, I went with four other friends of mine and we had a blast; the second time I went alone and it was still very enjoyable but the humor wasn't as humorous. The third time I went with a very large group of friends and some random peeps and it was a superhero blast. This is my expert opinion. :coolio
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I often go to movies solo. Mrs.Jingle isn't much of a movie person. Not sure why you 'need' company. it's not like you're chit-chatting thru the movie anyway.
Chef... don't wait a minute longer. Go see it. In IMAX preferably. I saw once in IMAX, once in 2D. 2D felt dull and flat in comparison.
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Do they only have 3D IMAX shows?
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Do they only have 3D IMAX shows?
Yes
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Lame.
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Do they only have 3D IMAX shows?
I know movies that are released in IMAX are not always in 3D maybe it's for Avengers though. A Customer came in with a Hulk shirt this morning. Asked him if he saw Avengers yet. Said, no. Told him he's missing out because Hulk was too good in that movie.
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i didnt think 3D helped or hurt the movie. It felt pretty much the same as the 2D honestly.
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My only problem with 3D is that it fucking destroys my eyes. There's no way I could sit through all of Avengers and not want to stab a pen through my temple by the end.
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How could they work it out so captain America and fantastic four could be in the same movie? Captain America is the same guy as the flame bloke
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How could they work it out so captain America and fantastic four could be in the same movie? Captain America is the same guy as the flame bloke
Recast the entire team and ignore the abortions that were the last 2 FF movies.
Speaking of which, I saw one of the episodes of the 2nd season of The Avengers cartoon and there was a scene were the Avengers and the FF were playing poker, and Captain America turned to Johnny Storm and said "....which one are you again?" to which Storm responds "...how can you not remember me?" Not sure if it was an intentional joke about Chris Evanns playing both of them, but it probably was.
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How could they work it out so captain America and fantastic four could be in the same movie? Captain America is the same guy as the flame bloke
Recast the entire team and ignore the abortions that were the last 2 FF movies.
Amen.
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:rollin :lol That's hilarious, I totally forgot he played Flame. Probably because, yes, the FF franchise is a big steaming pile of failure. It's so fucking pathetic, it really is; the entire thing was half-assed. Oh and the CGI for Mr. Fantastic... :| It's not like all the CGI in that movie was that bad, they just fucked that up so horribly. I don't think I saw the second one and if I did then I literally forgot every single second of it. It's for the better. But yeah those movies need to be forgotten and revived, because it could and should be one of the best superhero movies ever if the right talent is behind it.
I just don't see it happening lest Marvel gets their hands on it somehow. Same for the rest of Sony/Whoeverthefuckisn'tMarvel's bullshit franchises. Spiderman has been one lucky fellow, and while I'm excited for this new one, I've had an ominous feeling with the recent trailers (mainly the one for Avengers)... Here's hoping one day they fall back into the right hands because Sony has downright buttfucked all their superheroes. Sickos.
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I think FF2 pissed me off the most because they took essentially my favorite character and made him pointless (although his first 5 minutes or whatever were pretty cool).
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Also, cosmic dust Galactus...
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I wouldn't; this is definitely a movie better enjoyed in the company of (a) friend(s). The first time I saw it, I went with four other friends of mine and we had a blast; the second time I went alone and it was still very enjoyable but the humor wasn't as humorous. The third time I went with a very large group of friends and some random peeps and it was a superhero blast. This is my expert opinion. :coolio
I resisted, and he probably would have been pissed too. We saw all the other ones together, can't break tradition now.
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That's the spirit! It truly sucks to hear "Yeah man, sorry I went ahead and saw it" whenever someone had plans to see a movie with you; it's happened to me so many damn times that I no longer make plans to see movies with people anymore and either go alone or go at the spur of the moment (Avengers happened to be multiple spur of the moments). So on behalf of all the broken-hearted, betrayed BFF-movie-friends out there, I thank you, kind sir. Your friendship will reach super
homohero levels.
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Man I would love to see Avengers and Spider-Man VS Sinister Six or something, but even though it wouldn't be possible because of rights, I doubt someone could give all of them enough screentime. :lol
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i guess spoiler if you havent seen x-men first class?
imagine how funny it would be if the hugh jackman cameo in first class was actually in the avengers? Black Widow walks into the bar looking to recruit logan for the avengers, "go fuck yourself".
That would have been amazing.
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My god, what a fantastic movie.
[semi-spoilers]
Biggest three lulz moments:
"Better clench up, Legolas."
Hulk punching Thor
Hulk slamming Loki around : "puny god."
Also, only those of you that have played Ultimate Alliance 2 will get this, but I geekgasm'd when Iron Man shot his laser at Cap's shield to spread it out. I nearly jumped out of my chair and yelled "FUSION!"
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(https://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3p3i4qLDR1r1ibsxo1_500.gif)
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Nailed it.
(https://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2u49dmpq91qiyrt9o1_500.jpg)
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Is that a dude?
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I'm not sure.
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Also, only those of you that have played Ultimate Alliance 2 will get this, but I geekgasm'd when Iron Man shot his laser at Cap's shield to spread it out. I nearly jumped out of my chair and yelled "FUSION!"
OH YES! Me and friends, who had recently been playing it, went all like "OMFG UA2!!!!"
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Do they only have 3D IMAX shows?
Yes
On that note, think geek now sells 2D glasses: https://www.thinkgeek.com/clearance/on-sale/e9b4/?cj=true&cpg=cj&ref=&CJURL=&CJID=1909525
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I love Think Geek!
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The Avengers was pretty fucking awesome.
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Avengers has already passed TDK in the all-time worldwide box office.
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Is that a dude?
Based on the presence of boobs and the complete absence of a penis......I'd say yes, that is definitely a male Marvel fan.
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i didnt think 3D helped or hurt the movie. It felt pretty much the same as the 2D honestly.
I purposefully went to see Avengers Assemble in 2D and the picture was crystal clear. The final battle at the end was fantastic.
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Saw it today in 3D. Out-fucking-rageous. The Hulk/Loki scene was hilarious, as was the post credits scene. Excellent action superhero movie.
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saw it for the 3rd time last night. still awesome
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Just went ahead and added a *SPOILER* tag to the thread title since, now that it is out, MOST posts will probably have spoilers.
*SPOILER ALERT!*
Shawarma! (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/08/avengers-shawarma-scene-i_n_1500762.html) :D
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Saw it again, this time in 3D.
It was better in 2D. But still totally awesome.
Not sure if this will crack the Top 2 worldwide grosses, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it get to #3. That looks totally reachable.
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Perhaps the one and only thing about the film that I can criticize: What is the deal with Samuel L. Jackson. Everyone knows the man can act (and anyone who begs to differ really should see 187). But then he does the Star Wars prequels, and while his Mace Windu character is undeniably cool, you have to admit that his acting is horrendous in that role. He sounds wooden and stiff, makes you feel like he is reading lines off a cue card and hasn't internalized any emotion for them whatsoever, and just isn't a believable character as a result. I hoped that was purely a result of Lucas' inability to write intelligent lines, and was left in the past for Jackson. I remember feeling like just a bit of that stiffness was there in some of the Nick Fury scenes in some of the Marvel films so far, but that he was mostly pretty good. But the very first thing I noticed in The Avengers was that very same stilted lifelessness. Although I loved the film as a whole, I was pretty disappointed in Jackson's portrayal of Nick Fury.
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i have to say this is the only film where i really liked agent coulson (or "Son of Coul" as Thor calls him :lol) I never really liked him in the other movies, but I enjoyed the Captain America obssession and him standing up to Loki in The Avengers. With that im not as sad as the general consensus is about his death. He's just an agent and him coming back to life in a future movie seems a little dumb to me. people die, and Whedon loves to show that
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Actually Whedon recently admitted that that wasn't his idea.
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Actually Whedon recently admitted that that wasn't his idea.
yea i remember reading it now, but i think he would keep him dead. Ive seen alot of people online with theories that coulson didn't actually die and will return later.
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I like the theory of him coming back as Vision.
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I like the theory of him coming back as Vision.
Dude that would be awful. Not only would it ruin Coulsons characters, but also The Visions.
If he comes back, he better come back on a spaceship piloted by Wash.
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And because this thread isn't just an Avengers thread, I figured I'd ask you guys what other Marvel movies you'd like to see Marvel Studios make and who you would cast in them.
For instance, I would love to see a Dr. Strange movie with Johnny Depp as Stephen.
Also would love to redo the FF with a better cast (though I can't imagine a better Thing). And would REALLY love a good, honest drama about my favorite Marvel character, Norrin Radd.
Ohhhhhh, also a Black Panther movie with the guy who played Mr. Eko from Lost, and of course an Ant/Giant Man movie with Nathan Fillion.
Your ideas? Or did I already do all of the good ones?
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Yeah, I'd love see a good FF movie.
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Yeah, I'd love see a good FF movie.
Have fun with it, who would you cast? What would be the plot? Would there be boobs?
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A really good Fantastic Four would be cool, though the first had Jessica Alba, so the new one would need someone hot obviously.
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Ohhhhhh, also a Black Panther movie with the guy who played Mr. Eko from Lost
YES!!! I love this idea!!
A really good Fantastic Four would be cool, though the first had Jessica Alba, so the new one would need someone hot obviously.
A blonde, blue-eyed Alba which, IMO, made her completely lose her hotness. Though I've never found her to be that hot anyway.
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agent coulson (or "Son of Coul" as Thor calls him :lol)
Oh my god, I didn't catch that. :lol
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agent coulson (or "Son of Coul" as Thor calls him :lol)
Oh my god, I didn't catch that. :lol
very easy to miss. it's at the end of Thor
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Ohhhhhh, also a Black Panther movie with the guy who played Mr. Eko from Lost
YES!!! I love this idea!!
A really good Fantastic Four would be cool, though the first had Jessica Alba, so the new one would need someone hot obviously.
A blonde, blue-eyed Alba which, IMO, made her completely lose her hotness. Though I've never found her to be that hot anyway.
Well it wasn't her hottest movie, but if they made a new FF-movie, they would need someone equally hot. (or hotter) :P
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Olivia Wilde for Susan Storm!
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Calm your hormones boys.
Who for Richard? What about Johnny?
Also, I think if Marvel got all of their rights back, then Spiderman should be in the FF movie.
Speaking of old web-head, I'm glad they're making him a sarcastic dick in the new movie. That really lacked in the last ones.
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My first instinct for Richard is Kevin Spacey.
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Yeah, new Spider-Man will be awesome.
To be honest I'm not really sure who I would like to see in a FF-movie. While I did read some of the comics, I don't feel expert enough to come up with good picks.
Kevin Spacey is really great, but perhaps a bit too old for the character? I dunno.
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That's true actually, I didn't think about how old he is by now.
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Julie Bowen for Sue Storm. Will ponder on the others.
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I actually thought the guy that already played Reed, along with Michael Chiklis as Ben Grimm of course, was pretty good casting. It was just the movies they were in that sucked.
Since I was mainly into the mutants when I was a kid, I'd love to see Marvel Studios get the rights to X-Men and all their spin-offs and start making proper X "family" movies they way they're doing w/ the Avengers "family." Like start off with X-Men (Cyclops, Jean, Beast, Iceman & Angel), bring Logan & Storm into the mix, have the original team leave to form X-Factor, get some New Mutants going, bring in Cable and then lead into X-Force, etc. And Prof. X could be like the Nick Fury of that series that ties it all together. A boy can dream (sigh).
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Come on chant with me. "Secret Wars, Secret Wars, Secret Wars, Secret Wars!"
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I just wanna see a Ryan Reynold's R-rated Deadpool movie!
Also, would love to see a Cable appearance in any movie, better yet, a Cable & Deadpool movie! Like the comic series!
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I also read a lot of X-Men when I was younger, but I somehow doubt there would be a new Marvel re-launch of it, since we already have the initial 3 or 4 (?) movies and then First Class. One of my biggest let downs with the movies so far is that Gambit (one of my favorites from the show) hasn't been featured. I know he was part of the Wolverine-movie, but that role wasn't that big, and I would love to see more of the character.
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Oh totally, but I thought we were just playing make believe? Did I not mention that I'd be watching all of these good Marvel Studios X-Men movies on my private IMAX screen in my floating castle in the sky? My bad.
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Oh totally, but I thought we were just playing make believe? Did I not mention that I'd be watching all of these good Marvel Studios X-Men movies on my private IMAX screen in my floating castle in the sky? My bad.
We are, you're cool.
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I would love to see a Dr. Strange movie
Yes! One is apparently in development with Marvel.
with Johnny Depp as Stephen
No, no, no.
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I don't think X-Men needs a Marvel reboot, but if they did, who would they cast for Wolverine and Magneto? Huge Jackman and Ian McKellen own those roles. Then there's Professor X. I'm sure they could fine a fitting bald guy, but Patrick Stewart!
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I don't think X-Men needs a Marvel reboot, but if they did, who would they cast for Wolverine and Magneto? Huge Jackman and Ian McKellen own those roles. Then there's Professor X. I'm sure they could fine a fitting bald guy, but Patrick Stewart!
They could easily find an unknown small person for Wolverine. And while I'd obviously miss Patrick and Ian, I think those roles should be cast with an American and a German respectively. As neither are supposed to be british.
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Just giving some love to Michael Fassbender, because his Magneto was awesome!
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Just giving some love to Michael Fassbender, because his Magneto was awesome!
He really was. However I have a thing for accents. And he really should have kept a German accent. He sounded....American, not sure why.
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In other completely unrelated news...Avengers was awesome!
There were a few things that kind of bugged me that I think should have been worked out better. Maybe this was all explained and I just didn't catch it the first time around, but... the whole sequence of the attack on the SHIELD carrier bugged me. I get that Barton & crew were able to trace the carrier because of Loki's staff. However, why was the carrier mysteriously not cloaked when Barton's craft arrived? They cloaked earlier. If there was some sort of explanation as to why they were uncloaked when Barton arrived, I missed it. Also, where were Barton and his ship/crew completely undetected? Even aside from the fact that their approach and initial firing on the carrier went completely undetected, well into the attack, nobody in the carrier still had any idea whatsoever that they were there. I get that they were busy, but to me, this could have (and should have) been through through a lot better. Again, maybe there was a good explanation, and I just missed it because of everything that was going on. But it just seemed like they dropped the ball and created a scene that left a lot of obvious unanswered questions.
A bit more minor, but I also think it should have taken a bit more than a mere knock on the noggin to release Barton from Loki's spell. Would have been more believable if, for example, Black Widow knocked him unconscious, and Thor came over and said, "One of Loki's mind-control tricks. Here is how to undo what Loki did and release his mind," and then Thor does something to Barton.
Overall, the movie was done so well that I hate to nitpick. But then again, given the major effort that was put into details, details like these that seem unresolved seem silly to have overlooked.
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i think they uncloaked to allow them to land, as they were carrying 'arms and ammunition'. very similar to Return of the Jedi except no Vader to sense who was actually aboard
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But did they say that? I don't remember them being close to landing when the attack happened.
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im pretty sure their plane approached from below and as they were talking to the (radar?) girl it slowly de-cloaked. i think it was more visually explained instead of having her say "we are de-cloaking for you to land"
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I just wanna see a Ryan Reynold's R-rated Deadpool movie!
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!
ALL OF IT. TAKE IT.
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But did they say that? I don't remember them being close to landing when the attack happened.
I don't quite remember the dialogue, but they did talk to someone from the carrier as they were approaching. They must have uncloaked there at some point.
I just wanna see a Ryan Reynold's R-rated Deadpool movie!
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!
ALL OF IT. TAKE IT.
YES!
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Yeah, as they were flying in the pilot (or maybe it was hawkeye, can't remember), was talking to the control people on the ship and told them they were coming in to drop off ammo and supplies.
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There was definitely some dialogue permitting them to land over the radio.
I agree about Barton though, it would have been great to have Thor use some kind of cure on him like healing stones (cut from the Thor movie). Or even have Widow shoot him up with some kind of IV that would kick start the nerves in his brain or whatever movie explanation they could choose to do.
Outside of that, the only things that bugged me were 1. the half-assed explanation of how Thor got back to Earth, and 2. the Chitauri falling over dead when the mother ship was destroyed. They're living creatures, not battle droids. Maybe on the blu-ray we'll get a deleted scene saying the tech in their suits allow them to breath on Earth or something, so when that shuts down they die.
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I honestly thought that Thor would get back because Selvig and SHIELD would've finished the "wormhole" theory Jane Foster started at the end pf Thor. That would've been a better explanation than just "well Odin siphoned me here".
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Outside of that, the only things that bugged me were 1. the half-assed explanation of how Thor got back to Earth, and 2. the Chitauri falling over dead when the mother ship was destroyed. They're living creatures, not battle droids. Maybe on the blu-ray we'll get a deleted scene saying the tech in their suits allow them to breath on Earth or something, so when that shuts down they die.
Oh yeah. All that, too.
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I'm assuming Thor's return will be explained in Thor 2.
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Outside of that, the only things that bugged me were 1. the half-assed explanation of how Thor got back to Earth, and 2. the Chitauri falling over dead when the mother ship was destroyed. They're living creatures, not battle droids. Maybe on the blu-ray we'll get a deleted scene saying the tech in their suits allow them to breath on Earth or something, so when that shuts down they die.
I'm with bosk about nitpicking, but those were the two things that stood out the most for me. And with the bifrost destroyed, how did anyone on Asgard even know Loki was back on Earth?
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I'm assuming Thor's return will be explained in Thor 2.
It was explained in Avengers, though it was mostly a throw-away line by Loki.
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Outside of that, the only things that bugged me were 1. the half-assed explanation of how Thor got back to Earth, and 2. the Chitauri falling over dead when the mother ship was destroyed. They're living creatures, not battle droids. Maybe on the blu-ray we'll get a deleted scene saying the tech in their suits allow them to breath on Earth or something, so when that shuts down they die.
I'm with bosk about nitpicking, but those were the two things that stood out the most for me. And with the bifrost destroyed, how did anyone on Asgard even know Loki was back on Earth?
Himedel can see earth too, remember? Loki didn't mask his return to Earth, so it's assumeable that Himedel was able to see him.
Sorry if I spelled his name wrong, don't feel like looking up the correct spelling of a mythical norse god's name.
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Heimdall
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Heimdall
Whatever. God damn norse need to learn english.
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I honestly thought that Thor would get back because Selvig and SHIELD would've finished the "wormhole" theory Jane Foster started at the end pf Thor. That would've been a better explanation than just "well Odin siphoned me here".
Yeah I think that's definitely going to be part of Thor 2. Jane will create a portal and travel to Asgard. It will be interesting if it is an issue between Thor and Jane that he came back to Earth but did not see her (though did make sure she was safe).
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I honestly thought that Thor would get back because Selvig and SHIELD would've finished the "wormhole" theory Jane Foster started at the end pf Thor. That would've been a better explanation than just "well Odin siphoned me here".
Yeah I think that's definitely going to be part of Thor 2. Jane will create a portal and travel to Asgard. It will be interesting if it is an issue between Thor and Jane that he came back to Earth but did not see her (though did make sure she was safe).
There was a small amount of time between the end battle and them leaving. Perhaps he found her, gave her a good dose of his hammer, then left?
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Then why didn't he invite her for schawarma? :'(
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Then why didn't he invite her for schawarma? :'(
I'm sure he ate some of her meat.
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Finally saw the Avengers tonight, and it did not disappoint. If anything it exceeded my expectations, and they were HIGH.
Also, when it comes to what super-heroes would we want to see in the future, I would absolutely LOVE to see Luke Cage get some screen time. He's such a bad ass. Maybe not his own film, but definitely a cameo of some sorts. Perhaps an appearance in the next Avengers film?
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And what better way to ruin the character than to make him white and have him played by the guy who took him name: NICOLAS CAGE!
Sony would do this.
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Looks like Coldblood is the new villain in Iron Man 3
https://www.aintitcool.com/node/55794
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Haven't been to that site in a while but the design has definitely not aged well :lol
In any case, I thought the Mandarin was going to be the villain, even though Jon Favreau was having trouble making it work with the tech-based Iron Man theme.
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There's a lot of things rumoring around for that movie. There's the Kingsley as Mandarin rumor, I think it's a little safe to assume the Extremis story is gonna be part of the plot (with changes to fit the movie universe no doubt), and now this Coldblood who I'm not familiar with.
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Kingsley is an exciting rumor so far. However, if they are doing the Extremis story arc (and it seems they are), I have very little interest in seeing the film.
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Kingsley is an exciting rumor so far. However, if they are doing the Extremis story arc (and it seems they are), I have very little interest in seeing the film.
Really? Extremis sounds way more interesting than The Mandarin.
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We already have Cap and the Hulk for genetic stuff, and I don't really have a lot of interest in seeing Tony hide Iron Man armor in the hollows of his bones. Especially since bones aren't hollow.
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I very much doubt they'd go to that route. Maybe Extremis changes to a nanobot attack or something and there's a change in the armor, but I doubt the movie will actually go that route.
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Saw it twice in the past week. I thought it was kind of lame actually. The best parts of the film were the expositions of each character and how they became part of the team. The worst parts were Loki and everything that happens once they get to NY for the final battle. The script and dialogue were pretty weak, too.
Probably my favorite scenes in the movie were when they fought each other.
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Have you ever considered just not having opinions?
It's probably something you should consider.
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I got to see it yesterday. To be honest, I wasn't as pleased as most. It was a solid movie, quite entertaining, and definitely worth watching. I would grade it a B. I do however have a question about the post-credit scene, for those of you who are familiar with the comics, who was that man? What is he gonna do?
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He's gonna whip ass.
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I do however have a question about the post-credit scene, for those of you who are familiar with the comics, who was that man? What is he gonna do?
I assume you mean the first one. It has been mentioned in the thread. But here you go (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanos).
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Thanks for saving me the trouble of having to search through the entire thread Bosk.
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:tup
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Have you ever considered just not having opinions?
It's probably something you should consider.
Indeed.
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Have you ever considered just not having opinions?
It's probably something you should consider.
:lol
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Iron Man 1 was much better, IMO.
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Iron Man 1 was much better, in my objectively correct opinion
FTFY
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TIL Hayden doesn't like fun. Especially fun written/directed by Joss Whedon (who pulled off everything pretty brilliantly).
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Iron Man 1 was much better, in my objectively correct opinion
FTFY
Oh, thanks. I figured it didn't need to be said. *shrugs*
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I've also quantified it.
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Saw it twice in the past week. I thought it was kind of lame actually.
Who goes to see a movie they don't like twice, let alone twice in one week?
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The second time, some cute girls invited me along. It was 5 more bucks but it was worth it.
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Saw it twice in the past week. I thought it was kind of lame actually.
WTF
(https://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i238/hefdaddy42/funny/GTFO.gif)
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:rollin :rollin
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Just saw it for the second time, and I can honestly say that it got even better.
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One thing I don't really get - is Thor truly immortal? Like, he can't die no matter what? Or is he like a elf from LOTR where he can live without aging but can still be killed?
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One thing I don't really get - is Thor truly immortal? Like, he can't die no matter what? Or is he like a elf from LOTR where he can live without aging but can still be killed?
He'll age and eventually die, it will just take a very very very VERY long time. And other asgardians could probably kill him.
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Who would you say is better, then, between Thor and Hulk?
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Who would you say is better, then, between Thor and Hulk?
Better? At what? Hulk could likely beat Thor since I think he did in the comics. However Norrin Radd would take em both out.
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Who is more useful for the team? Hulk is more powerful. But Thor has a brain, can fly, and has control of the weather.
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Hey Adami, I'm gonna say something that'll make you love me forever: NO ONE CARES FOR SILVER SURFER!
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Thor is greater than the Hulk in nearly every conceivable way.
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That reminds me...the second Fantastic Four movie was ass.
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Not like the first one was any good either.
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Right.
My biggest gripe was Jessica Alba playing Invisible Woman.
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I disliked FF, but Jessica Alba was the highlight, and boy was she a highlight.
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Well, I mean she's obviously great looking, but I think they could have chosen a better actress for the spot. Oh well :lol
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Thor is greater than the Hulk in nearly every conceivable way.
Thor is the best superhero. Period.
That reminds me...the second Fantastic Four movie was ass.
I don't recognize either of those films any more. When I saw them I was young and naive, and now in my more mature years I realize that they were just piles of shit that should never have been made.
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Saw it for a second time. Still kicks ass.
I wish folks would be more kind to FF 1 and 2. They were family friendly comic movies and were fun for what they were.
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I would if they didn't suck so much.
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Hey Adami, I'm gonna say something that'll make you love me forever: NO ONE CARES FOR SILVER SURFER!
YOU SHUT YOUR DIRTY WHORE MOUTH!
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I would if they didn't suck so much.
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I saw FF 2 in theaters and when Thing roared at the bear, there weren't enough facepalms to justify the stupid, forced "for the kids" scene. Movie was crap on a stick.
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I watched it with my friend and my Dad. I looked over and my Dad had fallen asleep before the previews ended. :lol
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That's how you know a movie is bad, if your dad falls asleep before it even starts.
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I usually don't go to see movies anymore, unless I know they are going to be good. I saw The Avengers already knowing I'd love it. Shit's expensive.
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Wow! I must've erased more from that movie than I thought, I seriously do not remember Thing screaming at a bear.
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Wow! I must've erased more from that movie than I thought, I seriously do not remember Thing screaming at a bear.
I remember a few things from FF2.
1. The coolest awesome super hero ever showing and then having his character completely ruined rather quickly.
2. Doom never wearing his damn mask.
3. A motorcycle show or something?
4. Stupid flying cars or something at the end.
5. Galacdust. (c what i did thur?)
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1. The coolest awesome super hero ever showing and then having his character completely ruined rather quickly.
Huh? But that happened on X-Men Origins: Wolverine, not FF2.
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1. The coolest awesome super hero ever showing and then having his character completely ruined rather quickly.
Huh? But that happened on X-Men Origins: Wolverine, not FF2.
Dude, you know I love you, but The Blob is hardly the coolest super hero. And he was by far the coolest one in that movie.
Yea, what now?
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Oh nah son!! Now you done just went 2 far!!!11!1111111111!
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Thor is greater than the Hulk in nearly every conceivable way.
Thor is the best superhero. Period.
This is the truth.
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Thor is greater than the Hulk in nearly every conceivable way.
Thor is the best superhero. Period.
This is the truth.
You just can't compete with a god. It's not possible.
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1. The coolest awesome super hero ever showing and then having his character completely ruined rather quickly.
Huh? But that happened on X-Men Origins: Wolverine, not FF2.
:deadpool:
I'll second that.
And Thor is the best them. Always was my favorite.
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So do you guys think we'll ever see Hank Pymm on the big screen?
If so..............what about Ultron?
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No, so no.
I wish we would get a proper R-rated Deadpool movie. Oh and Cable, goddamn I wanna see Cable!!
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No, so no.
I wish we would get a proper R-rated Deadpool movie. Oh and Cable, goddamn I wanna see Cable!!
Hell just do an AoA story line. Who would play who? (Not talking about deadpool, I doubt we'll ever get that movie).
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Stephen Lang has the Cable look down. Chance Kelly too, but he MUST do the same voice he does in Generation Kill.
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Stephen Lang has the Cable look down.
Googled images of Stephen Lang, only saw pictures of Cable. Hm.
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So do you guys think we'll ever see Hank Pymm on the big screen?
If so..............what about Ultron?
Yes. We'll get Ant-Man in 2014, with the teaser in Iron Man 3 setting it up. Far too much rumor rumbling for it not to happen.
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So do you guys think we'll ever see Hank Pymm on the big screen?
If so..............what about Ultron?
Yes. We'll get Ant-Man in 2014, with the teaser in Iron Man 3 setting it up. Far too much rumor rumbling for it not to happen.
I don't think we really need an Ant-Man/Giant-Man solo movie. But him being a 2nd lead or major supporting character in another movie would be great.
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I agree. The same goes for most superheroes really. There are plenty of them that fans want to have their own movie, but it would just never work. Having superheroes like that have roles in other, bigger films? For sure, but giving every single hero a film just because there are a core group of fans who want it is just silly.
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Well...regardless of your preference, we've known for years that Edgar Wright has been cooking up a solo Ant-Man film, and its pretty much been greenlit upon Avenger's success. I have total faith with the talent involved.
Iron Man 3 and Thor 2 next year, Captain America 2 and Ant-Man the year after, Hulk 2 and Avengers 2 the year after that. Based on early reports, that's the tentative lineup. We'll see how it pans out.
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Well...regardless of your preference, we've known for years that Edgar Wright has been cooking up a solo Ant-Man film, and its pretty much been greenlit upon Avenger's success. I have total faith with the talent involved.
Edgar Wright? I'm intrigued. With his track record, that has a lot of potential.
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I'm not a huge fan of Ant-Man/Giant Man/Yellow Jacket/Goliath/Douche-ass. Maybe if he shared a movie with Wasp it would be good, but alone I don't think he has the power to hold up a movie on his own.
Personally, I'm with the people who are rooting for the Falcon to be a new Avengers member alongside Cap, or maybe Vision or Ms. Marvel (I wonder who has the rights to that one, since she hung out with both the Avengers and X-Men on a fairly regular basis. But if Marvel gets the rights to X-Men back, imagine putting her encounter with Rogue on the big screen and all the fun stuff that can go along with that :tup).
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I'm not a huge fan of Ant-Man/Giant Man/Yellow Jacket/Goliath/Douche-ass. Maybe if he shared a movie with Wasp it would be good
Yes, so we can see him smack her around. :lol
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Well...regardless of your preference, we've known for years that Edgar Wright has been cooking up a solo Ant-Man film, and its pretty much been greenlit upon Avenger's success. I have total faith with the talent involved.
Edgar Wright? I'm intrigued. With his track record, that has a lot of potential.
How does anybody not know this yet? :lol
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As much as I enjoy Ant-Man and Wasp, I don't think they're on the same "fame"-level as Iron Man, Captain America, Hulk or Thor. I hadn't heard about the project myself, so I understand if others haven't. :P
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It's been talked about since Iron Man came out.
I can't believe they are going to let him do it. Ant-Man as a movie is a shit idea.
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Well, I think Ant-Man and Wasp both works within the context of Avengers, but I don't really see the appeal for Ant-Man as a hero that people would crave an own movie for him.
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Unless in the movie he goes from Ant-Man to Giant-Man and makes Ultron, my interest for a solo Hank Pym movie is very little.
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Just you wait. Ant-Man is going to be that off-beat choice that everyone will end up loving after they see what a talented crew can do with the material.
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i think they need to be careful with how they name it, Ant-man is kinda lame.
Just look at Battleship or snakes on a plane, mediocres movies sure, just the title alone has people laughing when they see the previews in a negative way
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Just you wait. Ant-Man is going to be that off-beat choice that everyone will end up loving after they see what a talented crew can do with the material.
No, it will be the chink in Marvel's armor.
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i think they need to be careful with how they name it, Ant-man is kinda lame.
Just look at Battleship or snakes on a plane, mediocres movies sure, just the title alone has people laughing when they see the previews in a negative way
You put "Marvel Studios" before it and throw in a cameo or two from established characters for trailer shots and you've got enough business to justify the cost of making the film. Plus if its truly well-made, anyone weary about it will give it a chance if the word of mouth is good enough. And if the script synopsis is correct, we'll get a lot more back story filled in for the MCU. Hank Pym's story will chronicle the 60's while Scott Lang will be featured in the 80s/90s. Imagine how many ties the character(s) could have to the other established heroes and mythology? Not saying it won't be a gamble, but shitting all over it before a frame is shot is unfair.
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Just you wait. Ant-Man is going to be that off-beat choice that everyone will end up loving after they see what a talented crew can do with the material.
To be fair I think it all comes down to the script, actors and just about everything else. While I loved Avengers, I feel like few of the movies leading up to it impressed me. Iron Man was pretty good, but apart from enjoying the other movies, none of them has stood out as being more then that. I do have high hopes for a Hulk-movie with Ruffalo though, I think his performance in Avengers was superb, and the casting was just spot on. He just really "fits" as a Bruce Banner to me, much more then Bana or Norton did. (I love the latter, but he didn't feel like Bruce Banner to me)
There's just something about Ruffalo's look that makes him perfect. He sort of looks like a scientist that has been getting way too little sleep due to Hulk-problems.
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Ant-Man is officially announced and part of the MCU? Interesting. Source?
Also, while it seems inevitable, there is no official announcement of a Hulk sequel. Kevin Feige's stance is "with the Hulk we're gonna play it very carefully. We had varying degrees of success on those first two movies, so we're not gonna say, 'Oh we did it! Another one!' We’re gonna be smart about it and play it out. There are no plans right now to do another Hulk [movie]. Hulk might be just the special guest in Avengers movies; who knows?"
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Ant-Man is officially announced and part of the MCU? Interesting. Source?
There's been a few sites saying that it's been greenlit in the past 12 hours, but I'll wait until I read it from one that I trust.
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Thor is greater than the Hulk in nearly every conceivable way.
Thor is the best superhero. Period.
This is the truth.
You just can't compete with a god. It's not possible.
1. The coolest awesome super hero ever showing and then having his character completely ruined rather quickly.
Huh? But that happened on X-Men Origins: Wolverine, not FF2.
:deadpool:
I'll second that.
And Thor is the best them. Always was my favorite.
:D
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Did no one see what Hulk did to the last God that f**ked with him?
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Ant-Man is officially announced and part of the MCU?
No. Edgar Wright has been working on a script for it for 4 or 5 years, but nothing has been officially announced on it yet. Kevin Feige has said several times that it is as close as its ever been. Which doesn't really mean anything.
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Did no one see what Hulk did to the last God that f**ked with him?
yet he was still walking after
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And they're not gods in the movie universe, more like aliens who were worship as gods by the Norse.
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Also, Loki is a Frost Giant and Thor is a true Asgardian.
Ant-Man is officially announced and part of the MCU?
No. Edgar Wright has been working on a script for it for 4 or 5 years, but nothing has been officially announced on it yet. Kevin Feige has said several times that it is as close as its ever been. Which doesn't really mean anything.
That's what I figured. The idea of Ant-Man being part of the MCU just seems really goofy to me.
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I think they can do with Pym what they've done with Black Widow and Hawkeye thus far, meaning have him be a scientist guy whos working for or with S.H.I.E.L.D. and does stuff with the team in future Avengers movies and shows up here and there in the big guys' solo films, but I don't think he warrants his own film series.
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Did no one see what Hulk did to the last God that f**ked with him?
yet he was still walking after
He was knocked out for a pretty significant portion of the battle.
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Did no one see what Hulk did to the last God that f**ked with him?
yet he was still walking after
He was knocked out for a pretty significant portion of the battle.
just saying, he pretty fine afterward. due to being a frost giant/god
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https://maskofreason.wordpress.com/2012/05/23/very-good-writing-why-loki-won-in-the-avengers/
This is an awesome analysis that makes perfect sense. I don't think Whedon can get ALL the credit here though, because if this turns out to be the case, they were planning the plots at least as far ahead as "Avengers 2" when they made the first "Thor" film.
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Well I think Whedon's screenplay was based on a story by Zack Penn originally, so there's the other bit of credit, I think.
Very cool analysis and one I didn't think to consider.
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Also this:
(https://wpc.556e.edgecastcdn.net/80556E/img.site/PHcmsyiFsIQ1fj_1_m.jpg)
(https://www.movieweb.com/movie/iron-man-3/PGyB1mJ7AErzBF/OyCPyWmBQjNHBXV)
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Thanks for posting that spoiler.
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No big deal. He's just the chef.
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Just the chef?
Forgot to post in here after seeing the movie this week, great, great flick. So much fun, and so intense. Good movie making all around.
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https://maskofreason.wordpress.com/2012/05/23/very-good-writing-why-loki-won-in-the-avengers/
This is an awesome analysis that makes perfect sense. I don't think Whedon can get ALL the credit here though, because if this turns out to be the case, they were planning the plots at least as far ahead as "Avengers 2" when they made the first "Thor" film.
Yeah, that does make perfect sense. And it wouldn't surprise me at all if the basic concept/outline for that storyline had indeed been thought up already when they were doing Thor.
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The movie was sooooo good. Best movie I've seen for a quite while. The battles were epic and the humour was as well, with my favorite lines being "Puny god!", "He's adopted." and Iron Man calling Hawkeye Legolas.
I missed the Thanos scene though, but I wanted to watch it again anyways.
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https://maskofreason.wordpress.com/2012/05/23/very-good-writing-why-loki-won-in-the-avengers/
This is an awesome analysis that makes perfect sense. I don't think Whedon can get ALL the credit here though, because if this turns out to be the case, they were planning the plots at least as far ahead as "Avengers 2" when they made the first "Thor" film.
Yeah, that does make perfect sense. And it wouldn't surprise me at all if the basic concept/outline for that storyline had indeed been thought up already when they were doing Thor.
All the cube stuff is Whedon. He directed the teaser credit scene in Thor and rewrote Captain America to tie it into that.
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Just the chef?
Iron Chef America.
Get it?
GET IT?!
:(
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https://maskofreason.wordpress.com/2012/05/23/very-good-writing-why-loki-won-in-the-avengers/
This is an awesome analysis that makes perfect sense. I don't think Whedon can get ALL the credit here though, because if this turns out to be the case, they were planning the plots at least as far ahead as "Avengers 2" when they made the first "Thor" film.
Yeah, that does make perfect sense. And it wouldn't surprise me at all if the basic concept/outline for that storyline had indeed been thought up already when they were doing Thor.
All the cube stuff is Whedon. He directed the teaser credit scene in Thor and rewrote Captain America to tie it into that.
Did he do the gauntlet stuff too then?
Also, I'm not sure how I feel about the Iron Patriot, since it clearly isn't/can't be Norman Osborn.
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It might not be the Iron Patriot as we know him. It might just be a slight nod to that like with Tony making that costume for Captain America (who probably doesn't want to use it) or something.
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Did he do the gauntlet stuff too then?
I would imagine so. I'm not sure if they had the prop prepared prior to him coming into the fold, but there was certainly enough time, as Whedon was officially announced in early 2010 and Thor hit theaters about a year later. If it was introduced before hand, I'm sure he at least behind the scenes wise went to go about dropping in early references to it, as in Loki's staph crystal (the blue gem featured in the gauntlet) and obviously Thanos's cameo. They want him to continue shaping the overall structure of the franchise so it leads right into Avengers 2.
I'm sure we'll certainly see the Gauntlet come up. If the "Loki got what he wanted" theory is true, I imagine he will escape from imprisonment while in Asgard, steal the gauntlet and use the tesseract to get back to Thanos. I also think all of the phase 2 films will set up the collecting of the gems. We have one in Avengers already, so my guess is Iron Man 3, Thor 2, Captain America 2 and maybe Hulk 2 will set up another 4, with the final gem coming into play in Avengers 2.
To further speculate, my guess is at the end of Avengers 2, when Thanos is dethroned, each of the Avengers will be in charge of guarding one of the gems so they never fall into the wrong hands again. You've got the big 4, and then probably Ant-Man and maybe Dr. Strange (theories are he'll show up in Thor 2).
It might not be the Iron Patriot as we know him. It might just be a slight nod to that like with Tony making that costume for Captain America (who probably doesn't want to use it) or something.
An actor has already been cast. Its a character in the film. Not Osborn obviously, and no idea how prominent he will be.
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It's Coldblood in the Iron Patriot suit.
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I just realized this....Marvel Studios shot themselves in the foot when they casted Idris Elba as Heimdall in Thor....because if they bring in the Black Panther to this movie universe, he would've been the PERFECT choice
(https://talkinstuff.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/idris_elba3.jpg)
Yep. A PERFECT Black Panther
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Eh. By the time they start filming the next Avengers, Wesley Snipes should be out of prison.
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I see your Elba, and raise you a......uh......this guy.
(https://tvmedia.ign.com/tv/image/article/745/745595/lost-costofliving-eko-jesusstick_1163729684.jpg)
Although Elba would make a great Luke Cage.
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Holy crap... he would be perfect.
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I see your Elba, and raise you a......uh......this guy.
(https://tvmedia.ign.com/tv/image/article/745/745595/lost-costofliving-eko-jesusstick_1163729684.jpg)
TRY to pronounce his name! I dare ya!
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Eko.
Pretty simple.
:loser:
By the way if you want an insane name, try to dude from 4400. Mahershalalhashbaz Ali.
I'll be waiting.
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My god, just when you think the next Iron Man movie might be any good they actually wrap the Iron Man suit in an american flag... I'm starting to hate patriotism, it ruins a hell of a lot of 'could-be-awesome' movies. I mean this is rediculous.
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My god, just when you think the next Iron Man movie might be any good they actually wrap the Iron Man suit in an american flag... I'm starting to hate patriotism, it ruins a hell of a lot of 'could-be-awesome' movies. I mean this is rediculous.
Yeah, it's especially annoying in American movies. :P
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I also think all of the phase 2 films will set up the collecting of the gems. We have one in Avengers already, so my guess is Iron Man 3, Thor 2, Captain America 2 and maybe Hulk 2 will set up another 4, with the final gem coming into play in Avengers 2.
To further speculate, my guess is at the end of Avengers 2, when Thanos is dethroned, each of the Avengers will be in charge of guarding one of the gems so they never fall into the wrong hands again. You've got the big 4, and then probably Ant-Man and maybe Dr. Strange (theories are he'll show up in Thor 2).
Why would they need to collect the gems? They are already collected, the Gauntlet was seen in Thor.
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My god, just when you think the next Iron Man movie might be any good they actually wrap the Iron Man suit in an american flag... I'm starting to hate patriotism, it ruins a hell of a lot of 'could-be-awesome' movies. I mean this is rediculous.
Erm, it's the Iron Patriot armor.
https://marvel.wikia.com/Iron_Patriot_Armor
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My god, just when you think the next Iron Man movie might be any good they actually wrap the Iron Man suit in an american flag... I'm starting to hate patriotism, it ruins a hell of a lot of 'could-be-awesome' movies. I mean this is rediculous.
Erm, it's the Iron Patriot armor.
https://marvel.wikia.com/Iron_Patriot_Armor
I know, and I'm saying it's rediculous.
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the movie is totally gonna suck because of it
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the movie is totally gonna suck because of it
Okay fine maybe not but it will be annoying as hell.
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Holy crap... he would be perfect.
As long as he can pull of a good NYC accent...
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My god, just when you think the next Iron Man movie might be any good they actually wrap the Iron Man suit in an american flag... I'm starting to hate patriotism, it ruins a hell of a lot of 'could-be-awesome' movies. I mean this is rediculous.
Isn't that a bit of an overreaction? I mean, Captain America has a nearly identical color scheme, and his movie and part in Avengers weren't overly patriotic.
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My god, just when you think the next Iron Man movie might be any good they actually wrap the Iron Man suit in an american flag... I'm starting to hate patriotism, it ruins a hell of a lot of 'could-be-awesome' movies. I mean this is rediculous.
Isn't that a bit of an overreaction? I mean, Captain America has a nearly identical color scheme, and his movie and part in Avengers weren't overly patriotic.
Indeed, that was a step in the right direction.
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and even if it gets a little corny you know Downey Jr. is gonna have a bunch of golden wisecracks about the suit
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Isn't the Iron Patriot a villain? You have a problem with a villain being patriotic?
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Isn't the Iron Patriot a villain?
No idea.
You have a problem with a villain being patriotic?
I guess not.
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Isn't the Iron Patriot a villain?
No idea.
You have a problem with a villain being patriotic?
I guess not.
Well it's Norman Osborn in the comics, so I'd say he's a villain. And I doubt a villain wearing the american flag would have any indication that the film is "HELL YEA AMERICA RULES EVERYONE ELSE BLOWS!"
Though I have no idea why you'd ever imagine it being that way anyway.
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Holy crap... he would be perfect.
As long as he can pull of a good NYC accent...
Black Panther is African so he wouldn't need a NY accent.
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Holy crap... he would be perfect.
As long as he can pull of a good NYC accent...
Black Panther is African so he wouldn't need a NY accent.
I think there's some confusion. After pointing out that Eko would be the perfect Black Panther, I also noted that Elba would make a great Luke Cage. So I have no idea which one Metal Junkie is referring to, but I assume Puffy is talking about Luke Cage.
Also, I wouldn't mind seeing a Michael Jai White film as Sam Wilson. He can play like a SHIELD funded version of Tony Stark.
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Well it's Norman Osborn in the comics, so I'd say he's a villain. And I doubt a villain wearing the american flag would have any indication that the film is "HELL YEA AMERICA RULES EVERYONE ELSE BLOWS!"
Though I have no idea why you'd ever imagine it being that way anyway.
Isn't that character Sony property right now?
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Holy crap... he would be perfect.
As long as he can pull of a good NYC accent...
Black Panther is African so he wouldn't need a NY accent.
I think there's some confusion. After pointing out that Eko would be the perfect Black Panther, I also noted that Elba would make a great Luke Cage. So I have no idea which one Metal Junkie is referring to, but I assume Puffy is talking about Luke Cage.
I was, in fact, talking about Luke Cage, although he would make an even better Black Panther.
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Holy crap... he would be perfect.
As long as he can pull of a good NYC accent...
Black Panther is African so he wouldn't need a NY accent.
I think there's some confusion. After pointing out that Eko would be the perfect Black Panther, I also noted that Elba would make a great Luke Cage. So I have no idea which one Metal Junkie is referring to, but I assume Puffy is talking about Luke Cage.
Er, sorry. I was talking about Eko as Black Panther.
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Well it's Norman Osborn in the comics, so I'd say he's a villain. And I doubt a villain wearing the american flag would have any indication that the film is "HELL YEA AMERICA RULES EVERYONE ELSE BLOWS!"
Though I have no idea why you'd ever imagine it being that way anyway.
Isn't that character Sony property right now?
Which is why this Iron Patriot is not Osborn.
And people are jumping off to all kinds of conclusion off of that pic. We don't know what role the Iron Patriot armor has in the movie.
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Well it's Norman Osborn in the comics, so I'd say he's a villain. And I doubt a villain wearing the american flag would have any indication that the film is "HELL YEA AMERICA RULES EVERYONE ELSE BLOWS!"
Though I have no idea why you'd ever imagine it being that way anyway.
Isn't that character Sony property right now?
Which is why this Iron Patriot is not Osborn.
And people are jumping off to all kinds of conclusion off of that pic. We don't know what role the Iron Patriot armor has in the movie.
It'll be awesome if it's just like a 2-second shot as the camera pans by.
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It'll be awesome if it's just like a 2-second shot as the camera pans by.
It looks like it'll be more than that seeing as they have it walking around in the streets among cars and whatnot.
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It'll be awesome if it's just like a 2-second shot as the camera pans by.
It looks like it'll be more than that seeing as they have it walking around in the streets among cars and whatnot.
That's all just an elaborate ruse to get fanboys' panties in a knot.
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That would indeed be pretty elaborate, since it's the actor they cast for Coldblood in there.
I'm afraid it's going to be a bit crowded, but I'll reserve judgment and remain carefully optimistic.
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I also think all of the phase 2 films will set up the collecting of the gems. We have one in Avengers already, so my guess is Iron Man 3, Thor 2, Captain America 2 and maybe Hulk 2 will set up another 4, with the final gem coming into play in Avengers 2.
To further speculate, my guess is at the end of Avengers 2, when Thanos is dethroned, each of the Avengers will be in charge of guarding one of the gems so they never fall into the wrong hands again. You've got the big 4, and then probably Ant-Man and maybe Dr. Strange (theories are he'll show up in Thor 2).
Why would they need to collect the gems? They are already collected, the Gauntlet was seen in Thor.
Loki was in possession of the blue gem in Avengers, so perhaps something happened to the rest?
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I doubt his staff was the gauntlet stone. Unless I missed it where it said it was. Cause when they showed the gauntlet, it seemed to have every stone.
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I'm okay with the Black Panther never seeing the light of day on film.
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I'm okay with the Black Panther never seeing the light of day on film.
Racist.
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I doubt his staff was the gauntlet stone. Unless I missed it where it said it was. Cause when they showed the gauntlet, it seemed to have every stone.
It wasn't a gauntlet stone, I understood it that the staff harnessed energy from the Cosmic Cube.
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I doubt his staff was the gauntlet stone. Unless I missed it where it said it was. Cause when they showed the gauntlet, it seemed to have every stone.
Really? Hm...
MIND - The blue mind gem gives the owner access to all thoughts and dreams. It encompasses the collective consciousness of the universe. In the hands of one unskilled in its use, the gem could unleash your dreams and nightmares uncontrollably within your mind. Worse yet, one oblivious to the dangers can have their inner demons overwhelm them. For a novice user it can add or boost mental power, and augment the mind's abilities. Further knowledge of the gem can allow the user to tap into further power. Where the reality gem alters reality itself, the Mind gem can make you think the world has changed. Mastery would allow the user to access all the minds of the universe, simultaneously.
;)
And yes, all the stones were in the Gauntlet in the brief shot in Thor.
My theory would be Loki swiped it at some point during the events of Thor.
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I doubt his staff was the gauntlet stone. Unless I missed it where it said it was. Cause when they showed the gauntlet, it seemed to have every stone.
Really? Hm...
MIND - The blue mind gem gives the owner access to all thoughts and dreams. It encompasses the collective consciousness of the universe. In the hands of one unskilled in its use, the gem could unleash your dreams and nightmares uncontrollably within your mind. Worse yet, one oblivious to the dangers can have their inner demons overwhelm them. For a novice user it can add or boost mental power, and augment the mind's abilities. Further knowledge of the gem can allow the user to tap into further power. Where the reality gem alters reality itself, the Mind gem can make you think the world has changed. Mastery would allow the user to access all the minds of the universe, simultaneously.
;)
And yes, all the stones were in the Gauntlet in the brief shot in Thor.
My theory would be Loki swiped it at some point during the events of Thor.
Yeah, that description doesn't fit what was depicted in the film at all, so I don't know what you're talking about.
It wasn't one of the gems. No reason AT ALL to think that it was.
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Yeah, that description doesn't fit what was depicted in the film at all, so I don't know what you're talking about.
This.
In the movie Selvig designed the energy used by the staff ("I think I made a countermeasure" or something along those lines he said) and the energy emanating from it looks suspiciously like the one from the Tesseract...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZkqC4Lz8dU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZkqC4Lz8dU)
How the Avengers Should Have Ended
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZkqC4Lz8dU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZkqC4Lz8dU)
How the Avengers Should Have Ended
Meh. Was expecting an actual ending joke.
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Meh. Was expecting an actual ending joke.
Yeah I was too.
But that in the beginning with Loki is pretty funny, I can't not laugh when I watch it.
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HISHE hasn't really been that funny in a while. I think they used all their powers on the Terminator spoof.
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HISHE hasn't really been that funny in a while. I think they used all their powers on the Terminator spoof.
Just looked it up.
And it was glorious.
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So I just watched Thor for the first time. It was okay. Better than Iron Man 2, but the love story between Jane Foster and Thor happened a bit too quickly with no real reason for Jane to like him before he stops being a dick. Though it did give that "destroy the bifrost" scene a lot more emotional weight, and it was cool to see a "first glimpse" of Hawkeye (which I actually didn't see coming). I was looking for the Infinity Gauntlet in Odin's treasure room and didn't see it, though :P
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It's there, it's just very, very easy to miss.
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So I just watched Thor for the first time. It was okay. Better than Iron Man 2, but the love story between Jane Foster and Thor happened a bit too quickly with no real reason for Jane to like him before he stops being a dick. Though it did give that "destroy the bifrost" scene a lot more emotional weight, and it was cool to see a "first glimpse" of Hawkeye (which I actually didn't see coming). I was looking for the Infinity Gauntlet in Odin's treasure room and didn't see it, though :P
I know you're using the term "first glimpse" lightly, but I'm not even sure it qualifies as that. Just a cameo, really.
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Thor was, in my opinion, the worst of all Phase 1 movies.
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Thor was, in my opinion, the worst of all Phase 1 movies.
I would agree if not for Iron Man 2.
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Thor was, in my opinion, the worst of all Phase 1 movies.
Agreed.
Also, has anyone seen that 10 disc blu-ray Avengers set containing all the phase 1 movies? Costs $153 on Amazon.com :o
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No way.
1. Avengers
2. Iron Man
3. Thor
4. Captain America: The First Avenger
5. Iron Man 2
6. The Incredible Hulk
I doubt his staff was the gauntlet stone. Unless I missed it where it said it was. Cause when they showed the gauntlet, it seemed to have every stone.
Really? Hm...
MIND - The blue mind gem gives the owner access to all thoughts and dreams. It encompasses the collective consciousness of the universe. In the hands of one unskilled in its use, the gem could unleash your dreams and nightmares uncontrollably within your mind. Worse yet, one oblivious to the dangers can have their inner demons overwhelm them. For a novice user it can add or boost mental power, and augment the mind's abilities. Further knowledge of the gem can allow the user to tap into further power. Where the reality gem alters reality itself, the Mind gem can make you think the world has changed. Mastery would allow the user to access all the minds of the universe, simultaneously.
;)
And yes, all the stones were in the Gauntlet in the brief shot in Thor.
My theory would be Loki swiped it at some point during the events of Thor.
It would be a stretch to say that's what made Loki able to convert people to his cause, and it's never really even hinted that there is a gauntlet stone at work.
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Actually, I still haven't seen The Incredible Hulk.
But I would rank Thor last out of the rest though.
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I actually enjoy Thor more than Iron Man even though Iron Man is the better film.
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I'd put Captain America last actually.
Thor had Loki, ergo it can't be the worst.
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It would be a stretch to say that's what made Loki able to convert people to his cause, and it's never really even hinted that there is a gauntlet stone at work.
Outside of the big blue gem in his staff. Which looks identical to the big blue gem in the center of the gauntlet.
(https://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/infinity-gauntlet.jpg)
(https://media.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/10300/231267365.jpg)
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Special DC sidenote...
https://news.yahoo.com/green-lantern-relaunched-brave-mighty-gay-070052544.html
"not that theres anything wrong with it."
"No, certainly not."
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Special DC sidenote...
https://news.yahoo.com/green-lantern-relaunched-brave-mighty-gay-070052544.html
GET THAT CRAP OUT OF HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Special DC sidenote...
https://news.yahoo.com/green-lantern-relaunched-brave-mighty-gay-070052544.html
"not that theres anything wrong with it."
"No, certainly not."
Why the fuck do the writers think it's important to mention the sexual preference of a hero? If it's not necessary element for a future story-line as they claim, then don't even fucking mention it. Besides, their reader base is young adolescents, not the LGBT.
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Honestly, the general comic audience is in their 20-30s these days. They had success with the Batwoman books and her being a lesbian got a lot of attention. I figure they felt the need to balance it out with a male character. Before the New 52 reboot, Alan Scott's son was gay. Since the events of Flashpoint has made everyone younger, his son has been erased from the continuity. I guess they decided to imprint that trait onto him. I personally don't care about a character's sexuality. If it has no relevance to the story, then it feels like a headline grabbing stunt. If it's woven in well and becomes an interesting story element, then great. No complaints.
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If it has no relevance to the story, then it feels like a headline grabbing stunt.
I think this is my issue with it. "He's gay! We support gay people! Buy our comics, even if you're gay!"
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It would be a stretch to say that's what made Loki able to convert people to his cause, and it's never really even hinted that there is a gauntlet stone at work.
Outside of the big blue gem in his staff. Which looks identical to the big blue gem in the center of the gauntlet.
Apart from the fact that they're both blue and that the goofy forced perspective on both of those shots makes them appear roughly the same size even though they aren't, not really.
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It would be a stretch to say that's what made Loki able to convert people to his cause, and it's never really even hinted that there is a gauntlet stone at work.
Outside of the big blue gem in his staff. Which looks identical to the big blue gem in the center of the gauntlet.
Apart from the fact that they're both blue and that the goofy forced perspective on both of those shots makes them appear roughly the same size even though they aren't, not really.
Loki can alter the size of the gem in the film. When he goes to Germany, his staff has turned into a cane and the jewel is now a long, thin piece. So the size is irrelevant.
You guys have all the right to disagree. But this is my theory and I'm sticking to it. Same as the cube being the source of arc technology. These things don't need to be definitively spelled out for us. We're supposed to connect a few dots on our own.
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Listen here, Myke, aliens or not, you're still just saying that UF-....
Ohwaitsorry.
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The cube being the Arc's technology makes sense because the Iron Man suit makes the same sounds as the weapons made from the Tesseract in Captain America, and also the fact that Howard Stark finds the cube when he was looking for Cap, but the gem from the gauntlet doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I'm not saying that it's not a possibility, but I just don't think that there's a good chance that your theory will end up being correct.
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The problem with that theory is that if it did turn out to be true, then there'd be some sloppy writing at play. I mean, the Infinity Guantlet is glimpsed very very briefly when some Asgardians are getting killed in Thor, and never mentioned in the dialogue. I don't think they would pull something like this without giving fans more of a hint of the technology at play besides the Thanos cameo.
Special DC sidenote...
https://news.yahoo.com/green-lantern-relaunched-brave-mighty-gay-070052544.html
"not that theres anything wrong with it."
"No, certainly not."
Meh. Whatever. Not a big deal, and it probably won't be a big deal to comic book fans either, since its a new character and whatnot. If they messed with Hal Jordan again there would have been some serious fan rage :lol
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I thought the arc-technology was cold particle fusion?
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the biggest clue that points to the infinity gauntlet/ Loki Spear connection (if it exists) is this:
Blue gem = mind
"Allows the user to greatly strengthen and enhance mental and psionic power and access the thoughts and dreams of other beings"
Keep in mind the part when they are all in Starks/Banner's lab on the helicarrier and they all start arguing over eachother and the camera does a weird flip, while focusing on the spear. then banner starts freaking out more and ends up holding the spear right before they get a lock on the cube's location. "sorry kids, you dont get to see my parlor trick"
I think Loki was in their minds, slowly pushing them against eachother, using the gem
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Actually I had forgotten about the blue gems ability to control the mind or whatever, so with that said it's quite possible to part of the gauntlet. But it means that either A) Loki has all of the stones, or B) the stones are still in the gauntlet.
I doubt Loki would take them all and then lose them or something.
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the only thing is that im not sure how him and Thanos couldve got past Odin to get the stones, so Im not sure i actually believe the connection. just saying it could work
I do believe the theory that Loki planned the war to get Thor to take him back to Asgard and maybe he'll get the gauntlet there
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the only thing is that im not sure how him and Thanos couldve got past Odin to get the stones, so Im not sure i actually believe the connection. just saying it could work
I do believe the theory that Loki planned the war to get Thor to take him back to Asgard and maybe he'll get the gauntlet there
Oh yea, the idea of Loki and Thanos working together is the one part I'm not sold on yet. Obviously the rest is true, but I don't see an actual connection between them.
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the only thing is that im not sure how him and Thanos couldve got past Odin to get the stones, so Im not sure i actually believe the connection. just saying it could work
I do believe the theory that Loki planned the war to get Thor to take him back to Asgard and maybe he'll get the gauntlet there
Oh yea, the idea of Loki and Thanos working together is the one part I'm not sold on yet. Obviously the rest is true, but I don't see an actual connection between them.
Yeah, even if most of the theory of Loki wanting to get taken back to Asgard is true, that doesn't necessarily mean Loki and Thanos were working together. They may have been. But for all we know, Thanos may have also been playing his own game whereby either a win or a loss on earth is ultimately a win for Thanos, and Loki may have had absolutely zero inkling about any of Thanos' plan.
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All I know is that when they decide to end this version of the Marvel Movie Universe (be it 10 years, 20 years, whatever from now) it should end with Galactus just showing up and eating earth, killing every single human/mutant etc on it.
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But, the FF already defeated him I thought?
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If Loki's point with this war was to be taken back to Asgard, he could have just had the Tesseract on him when Thor flew away with him the first time. It makes no sense.
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If Loki's point with this war was to be taken back to Asgard, he could have just had the Tesseract on him when Thor flew away with him the first time. It makes no sense.
Maybe because it would have been too obvious "Oh thank odin you found me so quickly, let's go back to Asgard now please :)"
He had to convince Thor that he wanted to take over the earth. He had to make Thor think that it was Thor's idea to take him back.
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If Loki's point with this war was to be taken back to Asgard, he could have just had the Tesseract on him when Thor flew away with him the first time. It makes no sense.
Loki fell from Asgard with nothing, so I think he needed some help from the aliens (sceptor maybe?) to get off his feet and give him the resources to get that tesseract. he couldnt just get their help and then run with the tesseract once he got it. instead he pretended to lead them, failed, and still gets big bro to beam him to Asgard
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Yeah I see your point. But now he has those aliens all pissed of at him after him with the intention of "making him feel real pain" or whatever he said.
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Yeah I see your point. But now he has those aliens all pissed of at him after him with the intention of "making him feel real pain" or whatever he said.
And they went to Thanos. And assuming the analyst guy was right that Loki and Thanos are working together, that makes perfect sense.
Also keep in mind that Loki didn't WANT to lose earth most likely. He just didn't care if he did. But had he somehow won and conquered earth, he would have been fine with that as well.
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https://social.entertainment.msn.com/movies/blogs/the-hitlist-blog.aspx?feat=e16bf738-2d12-4049-92c6-f4fffbdf884c
Iron man 3 starts production
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https://social.entertainment.msn.com/movies/blogs/the-hitlist-blog.aspx?feat=e16bf738-2d12-4049-92c6-f4fffbdf884c
Iron man 3 starts production
All I can say is:
The Mandarin
Don Cheadle
I'm in! :tup
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Ben Kingsley AS The Mandarin.
Schwing! Love Kingsley.
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The cube being the Arc's technology makes sense because the Iron Man suit makes the same sounds as the weapons made from the Tesseract in Captain America, and also the fact that Howard Stark finds the cube when he was looking for Cap, but the gem from the gauntlet doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I'm not saying that it's not a possibility, but I just don't think that there's a good chance that your theory will end up being correct.
Yeah, I remember calling this back when CA first came out. Also, there is apparently a diagram of the cube in Howard Stark's notes in Iron Man 2, which to me is the nail in the coffin.
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I said it opening day of Cap, and everyone on forums gave me bug-eyes.
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Special DC sidenote...
https://news.yahoo.com/green-lantern-relaunched-brave-mighty-gay-070052544.html
"not that theres anything wrong with it."
"No, certainly not."
Meh. Whatever. Not a big deal, and it probably won't be a big deal to comic book fans either, since its a new character and whatnot. If they messed with Hal Jordan again there would have been some serious fan rage :lol
Alan Scott was the first Green Lantern.
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Yeah, like...70 years old. I don't consider that "new" :lol
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I said it opening day of Cap, and everyone on forums gave me bug-eyes.
Likewise. High five.
(https://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lq8p7lnBis1qe8z2lo1_r1_500.png)
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Another HUGE reason that I don't think Loki's blue gem was one of the Infinity Gems is this:
If he could actually get to the Infinity Gauntlet, why the hell would he pull one gem off of it instead of grabbing the damned Gauntlet, putting it on, and not needing Thanos or anyone else to do anything?
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Just read up on what the Infinity Gauntlet is and is there even a way to beat that? I mean it can pretty much do anything anyone can ever think of.
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Another HUGE reason that I don't think Loki's blue gem was one of the Infinity Gems is this:
If he could actually get to the Infinity Gauntlet, why the hell would he pull one gem off of it instead of grabbing the damned Gauntlet, putting it on, and not needing Thanos or anyone else to do anything?
Quite a good point.
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Another HUGE reason that I don't think Loki's blue gem was one of the Infinity Gems is this:
If he could actually get to the Infinity Gauntlet, why the hell would he pull one gem off of it instead of grabbing the damned Gauntlet, putting it on, and not needing Thanos or anyone else to do anything?
Hef, don't get me wrong. I completely agree with you. BUT, just to play devil's advocate:
Who knows? Loki is both crafty and proud, which leads to him making any number of decisions that may not on the surface seem to make sense until we see the whole plan. Maybe he did not feel adquately prepared at the time to weild the entire power of the gauntlet, but felt he could handle part of it. Maybe he wanted to see Odin sweat for a long time by realizing that Loki had one of the stones and could have taken the entire gauntlet, and chose not to. Maybe he gets a kick out of drawing in and manipulating others, like the Chitauri, rather than coming in with absolute power and steamrolling whoever he wants. I mean, there could be any number of reasons.
Again, I think you are likely correct. But there are still credible arguments to be made on the other side.
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Each of the gems takes an incredible amount of time to master the effects of. Put together? Nearly impossible I would imagine.
Thanos is an eternal. He's got the experience under his belt. Loki was new to the "villain" thing. The end of Thor and beginning of Avengers gave him some time to work with the mind gem.
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More to substantiate that it could be the mind gem.... what's the explanation as to how he "converted" Hawkeye and Selvig with just the touch of the staff?
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There's an article on AICN about BLACK PANTHER in the works!!
https://www.aintitcool.com/node/56234
...so says El Mayimbe at Latino Review.
"Monty Cristo" here again.
They left some breadcrumb hints toward this in the pinpointing of Wakanda (Black Panther's homeland) in IRON MAN 2, and it would connect to the use of Vibranium (Wakanda's big export) in Cap's shield, as well as the move toward the "cosmic" Marvel universe, since the Vibranium is mined from a meteor that fell from the sky. Moreover, they've layered T'Challa into the AVENGERS: EARTH'S MIGHTIEST HEROES cartooon as well as the Lionsgate direct-to-DVD animated films (ULTIMATE AVENGERS 2).
El Mayimbe seems to think that Nate Parker (from RED TAILS) is the perfect pick to play T'Challa, King of Wakanda and Black Panther, but I disagree.
When I met ATTACK THE BLOCK's John Boyega last year, along with director Joe Cornish, I told him right then and there that he had better be ready to go after the role of T'Challa when (not if) Marvel did a movie. Based on a very wide grin, he seemed very familiar with the part.
Come to think of it, ATTACK THE BLOCK director Joe Cornish is co-writing ANT MAN for Marvel. If he's into directing BLACK PANTHER for them, they'd be fools to not pay him a princely sum to do so. ANT MAN won't start immediately no matter what if Edgar Wright is busy with the third installment of the Cornetto Trilogy.
What say you, readers? I'm a huge fan of the Priest/Texeira Marvel Knights run of PANTHER in the comics, among other takes on the character. I can't wait for this one to get rolling.
They suggested John Boynga from Attack The Black as the young T'Challa, which is a fantastic choice and could lead to great roles for the British-Nigerian actor
(https://www.blackfilm.com/read/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/John-Boyega-1.jpg)
Now that I think about it, as much as i would have loved to see Idris Elba, i guess he is a bit old to play him, but he's not too old play White Wolf?
oh what was that? He's Heimdall in Thor 2. Le sigh.
My other choice actors to play Black Panther is Larnell Stovall or Colombus Short
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The only right choice is Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje.
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The only right choice is Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje.
Oh wow, I didn't even think about him....probably because I can't pronounce his name. He would be a good choice!
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The only right choice is Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje.
Who?
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The only right choice is Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje.
Who?
Mr. Eko from Lost.
(https://ewinsidetv.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/mr-eko.jpg)
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Well god damn that's ironic since I posted him (that exact picture) a bit back.
Also I had a brilliant idea. Of course this idea works only if Marvel gets back all of their rights.
Okay so it's the end of Avengers 2 or whatever. Post credits scene of course. Tony Stark is flying as Iron Man to a remote location. He lands and walks into a room, but all you see is a close up of him.
He says "Good evening Gentlemen...."
The camera pans around to show the Illuminati.
END.
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I'd much rather have a Black Panther movie than an Ant-Man movie.
Of course when it comes out all the conservative pundits will try to accuse it of stirring up race tensions and destroying traditional superhero values based solely on the name but whatever :lol
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I'd much rather have a Black Panther movie than an Ant-Man movie.
Of course when it comes out all the conservative pundits will try to accuse it of stirring up race tensions and destroying traditional superhero values based solely on the name but whatever :lol
Fun fact, Stan Lee created The Black Panther character before the political group came into being.
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I know but when have sensationalists ever gotten caught up in facts?
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Each of the gems takes an incredible amount of time to master the effects of. Put together? Nearly impossible I would imagine.
Thanos is an eternal. He's got the experience under his belt. Loki was new to the "villain" thing. The end of Thor and beginning of Avengers gave him some time to work with the mind gem.
The Eternals aren't much different than the Asgardians. I don't see how it would be any easier for Thanos than Loki.
Besides, didn't the movie say that Loki's staff was given to him by Thanos and the Chitauri? How would THEY have gotten it?
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Each of the gems takes an incredible amount of time to master the effects of. Put together? Nearly impossible I would imagine.
Thanos is an eternal. He's got the experience under his belt. Loki was new to the "villain" thing. The end of Thor and beginning of Avengers gave him some time to work with the mind gem.
The Eternals aren't much different than the Asgardians. I don't see how it would be any easier for Thanos than Loki.
Besides, didn't the movie say that Loki's staff was given to him by Thanos and the Chitauri? How would THEY have gotten it?
Ebay.
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Who knows? Maybe they'll retcon it and say that the mind gem was missing from the gauntlet all along. Maybe they will show us through flashback how he got a hold of it. You would rather believe that some new, made up thing is more likely than a comic canon item that plays into the background of all the characters mentioned thus far? If you can find a more likely scenario, I'd love to hear it.
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Who knows? Maybe they'll retcon it and say that the mind gem was missing from the gauntlet all along. Maybe they will show us through flashback how he got a hold of it. You would rather believe that some new, made up thing is more likely than a comic canon item that plays into the background of all the characters mentioned thus far? If you can find a more likely scenario, I'd love to hear it.
I don't believe in constructing scenarios.
I already outlined all the reasons I don't think it was the mind gem. It was a tool given to him by the Chitauri. That's all I need to know.
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https://latino-review.com/2012/06/08/exclusive-iron-patriot-iron-man-3/
We happened to find this out a good 2 hours after we jumped on the Iron Patriot bandwagon and reported it, but I had to sit on it and watch people endlessly report “Iron Patriot” news.
It wasn’t until we finally got a look at Don Cheadle on set that we here at Latino-Review can clear something up for you:
That armor you’ve been seeing? That’s not Iron Patriot, that’s War Machine and this is all based on a “hey that white guy must be James Badge Dale” mistake made by a photo service or a gossip site (hard to trace back).
It’s not a movie star, it’s just a white guy. A very nice stunt man who allowed Don Cheadle to not be on set that day. The scene they were filming had Tony Stark and a bunch of military folks, so it makes total sense that this is the moment they debut the new War Machine armor.
We’re getting this from someone on set who says what we’re all calling “Iron Patriot” is Don Cheadle’s new armor. For purposes of clarity, I’ll still be calling it War Machine, even if the movie decides to call him “Iron Patriot”
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See? Random white people screwing everything up.
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I don't like it. This means a good guy of the movie will walk around wrapped in the American flag. It bodes ill I tell you.
But I can live with it.
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I don't like it. This means a good guy of the movie will walk around wrapped in the American flag. It bodes ill I tell you.
But I can live with it.
You're weird.
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'MURIKA!
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You're weird.
Yes.
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https://latino-review.com/2012/06/08/exclusive-iron-patriot-iron-man-3/
We happened to find this out a good 2 hours after we jumped on the Iron Patriot bandwagon and reported it, but I had to sit on it and watch people endlessly report “Iron Patriot” news.
It wasn’t until we finally got a look at Don Cheadle on set that we here at Latino-Review can clear something up for you:
That armor you’ve been seeing? That’s not Iron Patriot, that’s War Machine and this is all based on a “hey that white guy must be James Badge Dale” mistake made by a photo service or a gossip site (hard to trace back).
It’s not a movie star, it’s just a white guy. A very nice stunt man who allowed Don Cheadle to not be on set that day. The scene they were filming had Tony Stark and a bunch of military folks, so it makes total sense that this is the moment they debut the new War Machine armor.
We’re getting this from someone on set who says what we’re all calling “Iron Patriot” is Don Cheadle’s new armor. For purposes of clarity, I’ll still be calling it War Machine, even if the movie decides to call him “Iron Patriot”
:D
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I don't like it. This means a good guy of the movie will walk around wrapped in the American flag. It bodes ill I tell you.
But I can live with it.
Yes. How dare a military Lt. (is it just Lt? I don't remember) in the US army wear the American colors when parading in public in his shiny new armor. I mean what if they had the star of a movie dressed like that?
(https://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/110204/captain-america-poster_510.jpg)
motherofgod.jpg
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Ah, I miss that Cap outfit.
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I don't like it. This means a good guy of the movie will walk around wrapped in the American flag. It bodes ill I tell you.
But I can live with it.
Yes. How dare a military Lt. (is it just Lt? I don't remember) in the US army wear the American colors when parading in public in his shiny new armor. I mean what if they had the star of a movie dressed like that?
Captain America is a great example of a rediculous super hero idea. I mean the super soldier serum thing is okay, but as soon as that flag is put on the movie more or less becomes a commercial for America and how good-hearted and perfectly brave everyone is there.
I know that is not really what it is, but I can't not get that feeling about it. I mean come on, Captain America...
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I don't like it. This means a good guy of the movie will walk around wrapped in the American flag. It bodes ill I tell you.
But I can live with it.
Yes. How dare a military Lt. (is it just Lt? I don't remember) in the US army wear the American colors when parading in public in his shiny new armor. I mean what if they had the star of a movie dressed like that?
Captain America is a great example of a rediculous super hero idea. I mean the super soldier serum thing is okay, but as soon as that flag is put on the movie more or less becomes a commercial for America and how good-hearted and perfectly brave everyone is there.
I know that is not really what it is, but I can't not get that feeling about it. I mean come on, Captain America...
I think you've missed the point of Captain America. He represents America because he represents Americans. He stands for the ideals that many American citizens believe in, blindly or not - much akin to Superman's "truth, justice, and the American way." He fought in era where war was a global atrocity meant to end the reign of a man who took six million lives, not some political showboating for oil or some other ulterior motives. He fights for freedom and for mankind's right to life - both of which are things that make the American people great, aside from the minority (which is the exception) that opposes those ideals. The government and its mishandling of pretty much everything bears no importance on what Captain America stands for.
The name "America" might invoke images of crotchety old bureaucrats and politicians pissing the nation away, but the flag still stands for freedom.
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Yes, and there is nothing wrong with the people of America, every american I have met have been a great and kind people. And yes the flag does represent freedom, but probably only to americans. The rest of the world doesn't get it's impression of America by meeting americans who are good people with realistic values and morals. They get it from everything else. All everyone else gets to hear is how shitty your nation behaves as a whole and what horrible and stupid things happens in the world because of America.
And that includes me, and even though I know what you said there, the largest impression where I live is still what I described above. So when someone sporting the american flag claiming they fight for freedom I feel almost offended by how false people can be.
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No offense, but that probably says more about you than about Captain America.
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I don't like it. This means a good guy of the movie will walk around wrapped in the American flag. It bodes ill I tell you.
But I can live with it.
Yes. How dare a military Lt. (is it just Lt? I don't remember) in the US army wear the American colors when parading in public in his shiny new armor. I mean what if they had the star of a movie dressed like that?
Captain America is a great example of a rediculous super hero idea. I mean the super soldier serum thing is okay, but as soon as that flag is put on the movie more or less becomes a commercial for America and how good-hearted and perfectly brave everyone is there.
I know that is not really what it is, but I can't not get that feeling about it. I mean come on, Captain America...
I think you've missed the point of Captain America. He represents America because he represents Americans. He stands for the ideals that many American citizens believe in, blindly or not - much akin to Superman's "truth, justice, and the American way." He fought in era where war was a global atrocity meant to end the reign of a man who took six million lives, not some political showboating for oil or some other ulterior motives. He fights for freedom and for mankind's right to life - both of which are things that make the American people great, aside from the minority (which is the exception) that opposes those ideals. The government and its mishandling of pretty much everything bears no importance on what Captain America stands for.
The name "America" might invoke images of crotchety old bureaucrats and politicians pissing the nation away, but the flag still stands for freedom.
This exactly. Take Civil War for example. Cap actively fought against the superhero registration act, believing it to infringe upon the rights of superheroes. Its only when he sees firsthand that Americans really want the SRA, and sees the destruction that he's caused because the two sides have been fighting over it, that he surrenders. He stands for the American ideal of freedom, which should be a global ideal, not a jaded perception of America, justified or not.
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No offense, but that probably says more about you than about Captain America.
What? Yes of course it does.
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From which country are you blackink that the very site of an american flag causes this much rage?
Not that I don't hate America myself.
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From which country are you blackink that the very site of an american flag causes this much rage?
Sweden. But not that many people here react like I do actually, I am known to often develop strong opinions on alot of topics.
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I don't like it. This means a good guy of the movie will walk around wrapped in the American flag. It bodes ill I tell you.
But I can live with it.
Yes. How dare a military Lt. (is it just Lt? I don't remember) in the US army wear the American colors when parading in public in his shiny new armor. I mean what if they had the star of a movie dressed like that?
Captain America is a great example of a rediculous super hero idea. I mean the super soldier serum thing is okay, but as soon as that flag is put on the movie more or less becomes a commercial for America and how good-hearted and perfectly brave everyone is there.
I know that is not really what it is, but I can't not get that feeling about it. I mean come on, Captain America...
I think you need to remember that Captain America was made in 1941 and I think you know at the time what was going on durrng that year and so you take the war and the morality of America and you get this character.
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Okay people. Why is there no Namor movie? Seriously.
And who could play Namor? My first inkling is Jude Law.
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Would the speedos be optional?
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Would the speedos be optional?
Meh. Point is, why has Namor been so ignored? He was essentially the first Marvel character (I think). Yet he has been ignored for a long time by non comic mediums for Marvel.
Also, I know Marvel Studios no longer owns the rights to the X-men, but what about other mutants? Mutants are completely missing from the Marvel Studios movies, and the tensions between mutants and superhumans is a very awesome element.
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Would the speedos be optional?
Meh. Point is, why has Namor been so ignored? He was essentially the first Marvel character (I think). Yet he has been ignored for a long time by non comic mediums for Marvel.
Also, I know Marvel Studios no longer owns the rights to the X-men, but what about other mutants? Mutants are completely missing from the Marvel Studios movies, and the tensions between mutants and superhumans is a very awesome element.
Yes, Namor was the first, but he isn't really recognizable enough to carry his own film. I'm sure he'll show up eventually.
On the mutant front, it's not that Marvel doesn't "own" the X-Men rights but that they were licensed exclusively to Fox until they decide to stop making them. That actually includes almost ALL mutant factions (example: New Mutants). I believe it has to do with which characters feature the "X-Gene".
The only exception I can think of is Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch, both of whom Fox and Marvel could each use if they wanted to, but without mentioning the apposing elements (Avengers can't mention they are Magneto's kids, X-Men can't mention they're Avengers).
That's not to say cross-overs are impossible. Money talks. There's a likelihood that Sony and Marvel will make a deal to get Spider-Man in Avengers 2. They already discussed that both films were going to incorporate buildings into the CGI skyline of the other film before practicality and time issues forced them not to. So that's an inevitability. It's likely only a matter of time before Marvel wants to throw another big gun in. The obvious choice is Wolverine. Imagine if both Spider-Man and Wolverine showed up in the next Avengers? Head's would explode.
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Would the speedos be optional?
Meh. Point is, why has Namor been so ignored? He was essentially the first Marvel character (I think). Yet he has been ignored for a long time by non comic mediums for Marvel.
Because he's kinda silly, is not well-known to the general populace, and would likely be seen as an B-grade Aquaman.
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Namo's awesome. As long as the whole Imperial Rex or whatever thing isn't thrown in the movie it would be fine.
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he's kinda silly, is not well-known to the general populace, and would likely be seen as an B-grade Aquaman.
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I can live without a Namor movie, never really enjoyed him.
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No Namor movie. No Silver Surfer movie. No Black Panther movie. No Luke Cage movie.
You all suck.
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What? I think the majority of people who've posted here want to see a BP movie.
Also, no one cares for Norrin Radd.
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Also, no one cares for Norrin Radd.
SHUT YOUR DIRTY WHORE MOUTH!
He's not only essentially the most powerful character in Marvel, but has an amazing backstory. Way cooler than Thor or Iron Man.
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All the characters you listed are fine. Maybe they can't support their own films, but I'd certainly have no issue with them popping up in supporting roles.
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Also, no one cares for Norrin Radd.
SHUT YOUR DIRTY WHORE MOUTH!
He's not only essentially the most powerful character in Marvel, but has an amazing backstory. Way cooler than Thor or Iron Man.
olol
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God dammit Dimitrius; I swear one day I will buy a silver surfboard and beat you to death with it.
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And then when I take it away... you're done.
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And then when I take it away... you're done.
NO! He's not powerless without it, he's just slightly weaker and he can you know.....summon the board back to him whenever he wants with his mind.
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He still no genius, billionaire, playboy, philanthropist.
(https://i47.tinypic.com/2ia654w.jpg)
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:clap:
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Caption: "Come at me, bro."
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Is it necessary to watch the five precursor movies in sequence? I haven't seen them all.
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There's no "sequence".
From different parts in the movie, one can make out a loose timeline, but there's no strict sequence.
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It's not necessary, IMO, but the payoff is greater having seen them (not necessarily in sequence). I would most strongly recommend Thor and Captain America. I think you could probably get away with not seeing IM, IM2, or Hulk first (although you should still eventually see them).
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I've just seen IM and Avengers. I'm going back now to watch the rest.
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Also, no one cares for Norrin Radd.
SHUT YOUR DIRTY WHORE MOUTH!
He's not only essentially the most powerful character in Marvel, but has an amazing backstory. Way cooler than Thor or Iron Man.
You were doing so well.
I'd love to see the Silver Surfer done well myself, but he definitely ranks below Iron Man and Thor in my books. Thor is number one forever and always. :D
That said, I have no interest in seeing a Black Panther or Namor movie.
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There's no "sequence".
From different parts in the movie, one can make out a loose timeline, but there's no strict sequence.
Sure there is.
Chronologically, the bulk of Captain America is first.
Then Iron Man.
Then Iron Man 2, during which happens part of The Incredible Hulk, and also Colson leaves for New Mexico, which leads to Thor. So those three somewhat overlap.
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there's an official timeline put out by marvel, if i wasnt at work i would track it down
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https://bitcast-a-sm.bitgravity.com/slashfilm/wp/wp-content/images/marvel-timeline-full.jpg (https://bitcast-a-sm.bitgravity.com/slashfilm/wp/wp-content/images/marvel-timeline-full.jpg)
Marvel time line.
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There's no "sequence".
From different parts in the movie, one can make out a loose timeline, but there's no strict sequence.
Sure there is.
Chronologically, the bulk of Captain America is first.
Then Iron Man.
Then Iron Man 2, during which happens part of The Incredible Hulk, and also Colson leaves for New Mexico, which leads to Thor. So those three somewhat overlap.
What I meant by sequence was that "you HAVE to watch this one first, then this one, this one etc".
As I said, one can make out a timeline of events watching the films, but it's not like they were MEANT to be watched in a certain order.
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Other than IM then IM2.
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Well, duh.
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Some news:
Thor's sequel will be call Thor: The Dark World.
Captain America's sequel will be call Captain America: The Winter Soldier (FUCK YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!!)
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ya beat me, was just gonna post with these:
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(https://i.imgur.com/aDr2a.jpg)
EDIT: some more
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Totally awesome, just read that.
I was also just reading the comics where Bucky becomes the new captain. Amazing timing. Sad that Hulk won't be in Iron Man 3 though.
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Ant-Man? Seriously?
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Ant-Man? Seriously?
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So they really are going ahead with Ant-Man. Hoo boy. Hope the wasp is in it at least. Maybe we'll see Ultron, too?
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I just hope Ant-Man isn't a stand alone. Considering he's an original Avenger, it'd be sad if he's left out of that equation considering a non-original Avenger was made into an original movie avenger.
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Yeah, I'm not excited that they're making Ant-Man, because I've always thought that it's a pretty stupid gimmick. Maybe if they forgot about Hank as Ant-Man and went to Giant-Man, I'd be excited.
But, if Wasp is gonna be in it, there better be some domestic violence! :lol
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Yeah, I'm not excited that they're making Ant-Man, because I've always thought that it's a pretty stupid gimmick. Maybe if they forgot about Hank as Ant-Man and went to Giant-Man, I'd be excited.
But, if Wasp is gonna be in it, there better be some domestic violence! :lol
Looks like they're going for the small ant-man based on what the test footage they showed. Although being able to switch between the two might be cool.
And even though it sounds lame, I have complete confidence in Edgar as he has yet to let me down.
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It is because of Edgar Wright that I'm not completely writing off.
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Also, I doubt this would happen but they better cast Nathan Fillion as Hank.
However his commitment to Castle probably prevents it.
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I'd watch it because of Edgar Wright, but Ant-Man was kind of a lame superhero to me. He would be cool in a cameo or in an Avengers-sequel in a smaller part, but it's hard for me to see how he will be able to "lift" his own movie.
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By using the ants, duh!
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Fillion already shit all over the character and said he has no interest in playing him:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=925hMGAW6YI
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>"Ant-Man wouldn't be my first pick"
>Shit all over the character
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>"Ant-Man wouldn't be my first pick"
>Shit all over the character
To be fair, he also said "no disrespect to Mr. Pymm" which is clearly a horrible insult.
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True dat.
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Anyway, yea I knew Mal couldn't play him anyway with this schedule, it was just a dream.
I just hope Edgar changes his directing style a little. The super fast cuts with lots of crazy stuff going on 24/7 probably won't work for that movie. I also hope it's not a comedy.
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Fillion needs to play Nathan Drake in an Uncharted movie if there ever was one.
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I guess the question now is, who should play Hank and Janet?
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We don't even know Janet is/will be in it.
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We don't even know Janet is/will be in it.
She has to be! When the hell has Hank been without her? Unless the movie takes place after the secret invasion and she's dead.
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Ant-Man = lame.
Excited about the Thor and Cap subtitles. I wonder why they didn't use the same Thor font.
Also, I don't know how well known it is, but Clark Gregg plays Coulson on the Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon in a more comedic tone.
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I find it odd that everyone is freaking out over Ant-Man, yet no one seems too concerned with a talking Raccoon.
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Because Ant-Man is lame and Rocket Raccoon kicks ass!
Also, they're using Groot as well, so one thinks that it's gonna be a ridiculous movie. At leas that's the way I'm looking at it.
Never been a fan of Ant-Man though, I find the whole gimmick stupid. So I use particles to become... smaller and attack with ants... cool bro, just watch out for kids with magnifying glasses, Raid and feet.
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Also, has everyone watched the new 10 minute short with Thomas Jane as the Punisher again?
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Because Ant-Man is lame and Rocket Raccoon kicks ass!
Also, they're using Groot as well, so one thinks that it's gonna be a ridiculous movie.
I'm not super familiar with the 2008 version of the GOTG, but we're talking about Disney and a talking Raccoon. What are the odds that it won't be rated PG, and extremely kid friendly?
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Because Ant-Man is lame and Rocket Raccoon kicks ass!
Also, they're using Groot as well, so one thinks that it's gonna be a ridiculous movie.
I'm not super familiar with the 2008 version of the GOTG, but we're talking about Disney and a talking Raccoon. What are the odds that it won't be rated PG, and extremely kid friendly?
Some of the rumors I read said they were using that movie as a way to explain Thanos involvement in Avengers to set the stage for Avengers 2, so I doubt it will be that way.
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I'm hoping man. But I have very little faith in Disney when it comes to non children's movies.
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I hope that they are just bankrolling Marvel Studios and don't try to push their influences on the movies.
I hope the 1.4 billion they just made of Avengers is sign enough that they just need to show the money and trust the filmmakers.
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I also hope they can handle Thanos. He's a rather.....immense....character. Considering there's only 4 avengers.
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Cut to a shot of Black Widow and Hawkeye going: "Heeeey!! We're part of them too!"
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Cut to a shot of Black Widow and Hawkeye going: "Heeeey!! We're part of them too!"
They are, but the movie didn't make them feel like part of the team, they felt more like glorified shield agents (which is what they were).
Also, been reading TONS of New Avengers, Dark Avengers, etc and now I'm really disappointed that the movies are essentially set in the Ultimates universe.
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Well there's only so much marvel universe they can fit onto the screen without overwhelming the audience. Staying within Ultimate territory a lot seems to be doing well.
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Well there's only so much marvel universe they can fit onto the screen without overwhelming the audience. Staying within Ultimate territory a lot seems to be doing well.
They're doing fine. I just prefer the normal Marvel universe to the Ultimates.
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The Ultimate timeline is okay for the most part except I don't like what they did with Thor. Thankfully the film version wasn't like that.
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Who can simply explain the difference between the normal and the ultimate? The movies are my only exposure to these characters, so I'm not familiar with all these different iterations of superheroes. I think that's why I never got into comics, too many versions of everything to follow as one real story.
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Who can simply explain the difference between the normal and the ultimate? The movies are my only exposure to these characters, so I'm not familiar with all these different iterations of superheroes. I think that's why I never got into comics, too many versions of everything to follow as one real story.
They're not dramatically different. In the normal universe Nick Fury is white, Captain America isn't an original Avenger, they formed rather differently and weren't a result of SHIELD, the aliens they fight are called the Skrulls (not the Chentauri or however it's spelled) and so forth.
However it looks like the upcoming sequels will take it further out of the Ultimates universe, as I don't think Extremis or Winter Soldier had been parts of The Ultimates.
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From Wiki:
The stories and characters of Ultimate Marvel have been adapted to reflect the differences between the present and past continuities, most of which were created in the 1960s and 1970s. For example, Ultimate Spider-Man gains his superpowers from a genetically-engineered spider rather than a radioactive spider, and his alter ego, Peter Parker, originally a photographer for the Daily Bugle newspaper, now has a part-time job as the paper's webmaster. Another aspect of the Ultimate Marvel universe is that many of the characters are younger than their regular-continuity counterparts.
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I just want to direct your attention to the Thomas Jane directed Punisher short that was just shown at Comic-Con, ladies and gentlemen
https://youtu.be/bWpK0wsnitc
If this is the vision of a Thomas Jane Punisher sequel, im up for it, especially now that Marvel has the rights to make Punisher movies
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Who can simply explain the difference between the normal and the ultimate? The movies are my only exposure to these characters, so I'm not familiar with all these different iterations of superheroes. I think that's why I never got into comics, too many versions of everything to follow as one real story.
The main idea behind the Ultimate line of comics is (A) Update the characters and origins to be more modern, and (2) lose the decades of continuity that makes reading comics so daunting to new readers. So, basically, they created the line just for people like you! :)
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I just want to direct your attention to the Thomas Jane directed Punisher short that was just shown at Comic-Con, ladies and gentlemen
https://youtu.be/bWpK0wsnitc
If this is the vision of a Thomas Jane Punisher sequel, im up for it, especially now that Marvel has the rights to make Punisher movies
I friggin' loved that. I was so excited for it (moreso than I normally would have been) because I had just finished watching the original on Netflix and then randomly stumbled upon this on Screen Rant so it was cool seeing them in succession without planning it. I really loved his portrayal of Castle. I didn't bother seeing the other Punisher they made after this but I'm with you in that I'd definitely see a movie made by the team behind this short.
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Thomas Jane is the man for the job, but I like this short for what it is better than the 2004 Punisher. If they could make a feature length movie like this, it would likely be incredible.
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So does Marvel officially own the rights to The Punisher again?
If so, I don't think he needs his own movie, but a co-staring role or something in another would be fabulous.
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Yes.
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He could appear in the next Spider-man where Spidey's mutation takes over and turns him into Man-Spider, and is then hunted by The Punisher.
Oh wait. Fuck you Sony.
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He could appear in the next Spider-man where Spidey's mutation takes over and turns him into Man-Spider, and is then hunted by The Punisher.
Oh wait. Fuck you Sony and FOX.
Fixed.
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Also, I assume that the test footage for Ant-Man and the footage for Iron Man 3 are nowhere to be found online?
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He could appear in the next Spider-man where Spidey's mutation takes over and turns him into Man-Spider, and is then hunted by The Punisher.
Oh wait. Fuck you Sony and FOX.
Fixed.
Yep, forgot the X-Men were a part of that too.
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Not to the mention the FF which could be amazing if they had writers/directors worth a crap.
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Not to the mention the FF which could be amazing if they had writers/directors worth a crap.
I don't remember the FF being a part of that, but they could have been omitted for the cartoon version.
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Not to the mention the FF which could be amazing if they had writers/directors worth a crap.
I don't remember the FF being a part of that, but they could have been omitted for the cartoon version.
Oh you meant that storyline. I was just angry at Fox and Sony in general.
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Not to the mention the FF which could be amazing if they had writers/directors worth a crap.
I don't remember the FF being a part of that, but they could have been omitted for the cartoon version.
Oh you meant that storyline. I was just angry at Fox and Sony in general.
:lol
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He could appear in the next Spider-man where Spidey's mutation takes over and turns him into Man-Spider, and is then hunted by The Punisher.
Oh wait. Fuck you Sony.
So he be what? Kraven the Hunter?
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He could appear in the next Spider-man where Spidey's mutation takes over and turns him into Man-Spider, and is then hunted by The Punisher.
Oh wait. Fuck you Sony.
So he be what? Kraven the Hunter?
Well I think he was a part of that storyline too. I'd have to watch those episodes again.
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So since Ant-Man is official, I hope he is in the new Avengers movie.
In which case, since it's pretty obvious that Avengers 2 will deal with Thanos, I think the end of that movie (post credits) should be Hank showing Tony his newest creation....Ultron.
Then we can later on get introduced to The Vision, who would be awesome.
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I like that idea.
Also, I'm not sure who owns the rights to Punisher so far. Though it could be that they've reverted back to Marvel. (4 years between Punisher and WarZone, and its 4 years after WarZone right now) If they did I'm not sure why they'd be using Thomas Jane again.
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Because he's awesome and they be stupid not to. Same with Jameson and JK Simmons. So what if it's a reboot. The man was perfect and the fans would love to see him again.
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Because he's awesome and they be stupid not to. Same with Jameson and JK Simmons. So what if it's a reboot. The man was perfect and the fans would love to see him again.
JK Simmons IS Jameson.
I actually read he was supposed to reprise the role, but they decided to not make Peter work for the Bugle yet.
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I've loved what they've done with the films so far. However, I can almost guarantee that Marvel is gonna drop the ball at at least one point during this second phase.
As lovable as Rocket Raccoon is, it's difficult to picture him in the same continuity as RDJ and Gwyneth Paltrow in the original Iron Man film. I remember thinking Thor was a stretch, and couldn't be made into a feasible live-action film, (and he's my favorite comic book character of all time). While it was the most difficult to pull off, they did a good job with it, but now a talking, gun-slinging space raccoon is part of that timeline as well.
Also, apparently they have someone lined up to play Falcon in the Cap sequel. I don't care if he was the first black superhero ever, he's fucking lame. When they announced Cap would have a sidekick, I was hoping it would be Hawkeye. I feel the same lameness factor for Ant-Man. I think we already have enough super scientist types in the continuity as is with Stark, Banner, Selvig and Foster, and beyond that, his power is silly and dated.
It goes a little farther with each film, and even with norse gods, aliens, and magic, I've loved what they've done so far. But eventually they're going to go too far I think. I hope I'm wrong.
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I just want to direct your attention to the Thomas Jane directed Punisher short that was just shown at Comic-Con, ladies and gentlemen
https://youtu.be/bWpK0wsnitc
If this is the vision of a Thomas Jane Punisher sequel, im up for it, especially now that Marvel has the rights to make Punisher movies
That was pretty awesome. Although I didn't really care for the CGI blood splatters.
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The rights for Punisher HAVE reverted back to Marvel.
Also, I'm really worried about Guardians of the Galaxy. I just have no clue why they would do that particular set of characters, when they have other characters that are more, I don't know, accessible than a talking raccoon from the future.
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The rights for Punisher HAVE reverted back to Marvel.
Also, I'm really worried about Guardians of the Galaxy. I just have no clue why they would do that particular set of characters, when they have other characters that are more, I don't know, accessible than a talking raccoon from the future.
Yeah, that was the biggest wtf out of all the movies they announced, especially since not many casual comic fans even know they exist, much less the general public. Would it have been that bad to fully introduce Thanos in Avengers 2?
It would be pretty cool to see Punisher in the MCU, but the tone of his character is SO different than all the others so far. There's nothing kid-friendly about Punisher. So if they want Thomas Jane as the Punisher again, then by all means they should go for it. I would've loved to see JK Simmons as Jameson again, but I'd love it even more if he was in the MCU commenting on the Avengers. :lol Though to be fair JK Simmons is awesome in everything he's in.
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I got this from Variety today:
Fox, Marvel talk swap as clock ticks on 'Daredevil'
Character-rights deal could buy time for Carnahan, Fox reboot
By: JEFF SNEIDER, RACHEL ABRAMS
The clock is ticking for 20th Century Fox to put its "Daredevil" reboot into production before character rights revert to Marvel -- but Fox chairman Tom Rothman and Marvel brass have been talking about a tradeoff that would allow the comicbook franchise to remain at Fox past its Oct. 10 deadline.
One reason for the backroom dealings: Fox is in discussions with Joe Carnahan to direct what's been described as a "Frank Miller-esque, hardcore 70s thriller" take on blind Hell's Kitchen superhero Matt Murdock -- a vision that would deviate from Disney/Marvel's family-friendly tone. Carnahan has yet to receive an official offer, though multiple sources tell Variety that he's the choice.
But Fox also has something Marvel wants.
Sources say Marvel would give Fox more time to make "Daredevil" in return for the rights to use characters from the "Fantastic Four" universe, including the giant, world-devouring supervillain Galactus, rumored to play a key role in future Marvel pics. Marvel is also eyeing future use of the Silver Surfer, who in the comicbooks brokered a deal to serve as Galactus' herald in order to save his home planet.
Fox owns rights to the Silver Surfer as part of its deal for "Fantastic Four," which the studio is also rebooting with "Chronicle" helmer Josh Trank.
At this point, the ball is said to be in Fox's court, with talks expected to resume later this week. But as of right now, Fox needs to start lensing by the Oct. 10 deadline to keep "Daredevil" in-house.
Neither Fox, Marvel nor reps for Carnahan would comment on the dealings.
David Slade was previously attached to direct the "Daredevil" reboot, which boasts a recent draft by David James Kelly. Chernin Entertainment is producing the pic.
"Daredevil" would mark a return to the Fox lot for Carnahan, who butted heads with the studio while directing "The A-Team"; the two sides appear to have worked out their differences. After the success Open Road Films had with Carnahan's Liam Neeson-starrer "The Grey," Fox quickly began developing Carnahan's actioner "Continue," which was believed to be his next project. CAA-repped helmer is also developing a fresh take on "Death Wish" for MGM.
(Marc Graser contributed to this report.)
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Adami would love for this to happen, for some odd reason.
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I would love for this to happen.
For some odd reason.
However I don't want Fox to keep Daredevil, as I think he could be a cool side character in the Marvel films. But if it gets me The Silver Surfer....hell yea!
Also Dimitrius, as much as I love having a favorite character that makes you scratch your head, I have now a 2nd favorite character, but I'm not sure if it will make you as confused.
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:lol Who?
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:lol Who?
Well, he's arguably the most powerful non mutant earth born character. Created after 2000, and is one of the few characters to be able to rip a god in half with his bare hands.
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:lol Who?
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I'm not good at remembering the years characters were introduced, but... Sentry?
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Bob Reynolds. But don't worry, I won't be arguing that he needs to be in any movies. Since his very presence would make the movie pointless as he would be able to defeat any of the villains in about 2 minutes, rendering the movie useless.
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I'm not good at remembering the years characters were introduced, but... Sentry?
Very good. Guy has one of the coolest back stories and characterizations I have ever read. It's sad he didn't last all that long.
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Yeah, the whole way he was introduced was awesome! That whole idea was great.
Honestly, I keep flip-flopping between Tony Stark and Wade Wilson for my favorite Marvel character. Iron Man is beyond awesome, but Wade is fucking Deadpool!!
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Both are totally awesome characters. But The Sentry's story is just really unique and incredible.
Also, looks like that deal mentioned earlier fell through. So I say once again...
GOD DAMN IT FOX!
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So, set photos from Thor: The Dark World have started to leak.
https://www.sfx.co.uk/2012/09/11/thor-the-dark-world-chris-hemsworth-on-set-pics/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2201639/Chris-Hemsworth-joined-equally-buff-stunt-double-starts-shooting-Thor-sequel.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2201315/Thor-The-Dark-World-Filming-gets-underway-Surrey--star-Chris-Hemsworth.html
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Very cool.
Also, did anyone else hear about the S.H.I.E.L.D. TV show? Very curious about that since it's essentially what I said they should do.
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I hope there's some crossover with the movies (like Sam Jackson appearing), even if it's little 5 second cameos.
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pics look awesome. i hope Sif gets a bigger role
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I wouldn't mind seeing more of Jaime Alexander!
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As much as I liked Thor, it really didn't handle the concept of ensemble the way some of the others do. Thor, Jane and Loki were the characters and everyone else had a little bit to do in the background. I hope the new movie really puts more focus on the warriors three and not just Thor seducing Jane.
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Also I felt that Loki and Thor (or really just Thor) was the only Asgardians with any real power. The others were just skilled fighters. I haven't read the comics so maybe that's how it's supposed to be but it would be cool to actually being shown that the others are gods of Asgard too.
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Well, they're not really treating the Asgardians as gods in the movies. More like an alien race that ancient humans came to call gods.
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True. But Thor is pretty much a god, with the flying and super strength and lightning and mega ultra hammer and all.
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So I'm watching the deleted Avengers scenes and I have to say that I like Stan Lees deleted cameo a lot more than his actual cameo.
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Haha yeah! That was cool.
Also, that alternate opening I thought was nice. Though it would've been a much too dark opening for such a fun movie.
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Haha yeah! That was cool.
Also, that alternate opening I thought was nice. Though it would've been a much too dark opening for such a fun movie.
I thought the idea of the other opening was nice, but I think Colbie's acting really ruined it. (though I didn't approve of her as Hill either) however the deleted scene where she and Fury subtly go off on each other was nice. The movie really skipped over the fact that they don't like each other yet know they each want the same thing and can depend on each other.
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Oh yeah, the one where she snitch on him, I thought that would've been good in the movie.
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Yeah, I'm glad she was cut down after seeing the extras on the blu ray to be honest. Bookending the film with her would have been a mistake, not only because of her performance (which wasn't strong), but because it really would have almost made it a S.H.I.E.L.D. movie.
I loved all the Captain America stuff that got cut, it really would have worked well with what is already in the film. I understand why it got cut however.
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I believe Disney is gonna double-dip on this movie and sometime later released the movie with the 20-30 minutes Whedon had to cut.
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Those deleted scenes sure didn't feel like 20 minutes.
It's interesting though, the two things I really thought got shortchanged in the film weren't fleshed out anymore than they were before. Hawkeye's recovery is still just getting hit in the noggin, and the Chitauri still just die because a ship blows up.
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I only got 3 gripes about the movie. The reasoning given to how Thor gets back to Earth with the Bifrost gone, Hawkeye's recovery and the Chitauri just straight up dying when the ship blows up.
I mean, they were organics, not robots!
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I only got 3 gripes about the movie. The reasoning given to how Thor gets back to Earth with the Bifrost gone, Hawkeye's recovery and the Chitauri just straight up dying when the ship blows up.
I mean, they were organics, not robots!
Well if you watch the Item 47 short they mention that all of the tech left from the Skrull wannabes was shut off when they lost the battle. I can only assume that they didn't so much die as their entire suits of armor shut down, probably either knocking them out or making them useless.
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I could believe that maybe the suits where keeping them alive... but when Hulk first shows up they clearly show one taking off the part covering its mouth.
Also, of course I watched that.
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Anyone buy Avengers? I think I'm going to hold off and wait for the "Phase I" box set, since I'm sure it'll have a few exclusive extras.
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Seen it 3 times in theaters, not really a huge fan of it. Now that the exposition is done with, I'm excited to see what they do for phase 2.
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Not a huge fan and yet you saw it 3 times?!
You needed to be extra, extra, extra sure?
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Anyone buy Avengers? I think I'm going to hold off and wait for the "Phase I" box set, since I'm sure it'll have a few exclusive extras.
I bought it, not waiting for the box set. Although I probably should have.
Seen it 3 times in theaters, not really a huge fan of it.
3 times, not a fan? WTF
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Saw it 2 times in the theater, am a fan, it came in the mail today, will watch tonight w/ the fam. RYZEE SMASH!!!!
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Seen it 3 times in theaters, not really a huge fan of it. Now that the exposition is done with, I'm excited to see what they do for phase 2.
First time, saw it with friends. Second time, a cute girl wanted to see it with me. Third time, my brother wanted to see it with me.
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Second time, did you use the ol' "hey let's share a bucket of popcorn, here I'll keep it on my lap, hey go ahead and grab a handful, whoops that's not popcorn that's my penis!" trick?
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Er, I didn't use that exact wording. But much popcorn was had.
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:tup
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Watched it with my daughters last night. Awesome again. Also great were the short Item # 47 and the gag reel.
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Watching it tonight with my godson!!!! :metal
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(https://s16.postimage.org/ppsqlskw1/Namnl_s4.jpg)
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Watched it with my daughters last night. Awesome again. Also great were the short Item # 47 and the gag reel.
"Dudes, you're on your own!"
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Watched it with my daughters last night. Awesome again. Also great were the short Item # 47 and the gag reel.
"Dudes, you're on your own!"
lol that was awesome.
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Just watched it with my godson last night. It is so awesome. I need to do a Marvel movie marathon.
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Anyone buy Avengers? I think I'm going to hold off and wait for the "Phase I" box set, since I'm sure it'll have a few exclusive extras.
Bought it, but haven't had a chance to watch it yet. I got the Blu-ray at Target, since their exclusive version came with a bonus disk.
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Oh, really? What's on the bonus disk?
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Oh, really? What's on the bonus disk?
Target’s Special ‘Building A Cinematic Universe’ featurette
We totally don’t work for Target, nor are we currently accepting money from them, so we can say this with absolute honesty and zero corporate involvement. Buy it from Target. Seriously. Wal-Mart is currently offering a promotion with a graphic novel or some bullshit. DON’T BE DRAWN IN BY THEIR LIES. Get your special Blu-ray/DVD combo pack from Target and you’ll be treated to an extensive documentary about the creation of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
If you were looking for the end-all-be-all of special features, this is the one for you. There are about ten minutes worth of featurettes on the feature disc, but this full-on documentary (available only at Target) is so detailed that it takes almost twenty minutes before the featurette even gets to the part where Marvel studios makes Iron Man.
From the casting of Robert Downey Jr. all the way to the decision to hire Joss Whedon to direct Avengers, this full blown documentary explores it all. Just to give a sense of perspective, the Building A Cinematic Universe featurette has a scene selection option in the menu. If you want the full experience, we highly recommend the combo pack exclusively available at Target.
Source: [size=78%]https://www.hypable.com/2012/09/26/avengers-blu-ray-review/ (https://www.hypable.com/2012/09/26/avengers-blu-ray-review/)[/size]
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Sweet! I guess I will not only be buying it, but will be buying it at Target then. Sucks that their stupid website doesn't list it, but oh well.
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target it is
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Went to Target to check out the super duper deluxe mega 4 disc Avengers set, but I don't need all that stuff, so I got the DVD blu ray combo with Target exclusive bonus disc. MY FIRST BLU RAY OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Went to Target to check out the super duper deluxe mega 4 disc Avengers set
What is that one?
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I think that's the 3D+Blu-ray+DVD+digital copy, unless there's another one.
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Yeah that's the one.
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I think that's the 3D+Blu-ray+DVD+digital copy, unless there's another one.
I'm waiting for the 3D+Blu-ray+DVD+VCR+digital copy. And Lucas replaces all the guns with walkie talkies.
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But what about LaserDisc?
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It's like Vista, everyone skipped over it for 7.
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:lol :lol
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I think that's the 3D+Blu-ray+DVD+digital copy, unless there's another one.
I'm waiting for the 3D+Blu-ray+DVD+VCR+digital copy. And Lucas replaces all the guns with walkie talkies.
Good to know that even things Spielberg does to his own movies are Lucas' fault. :lol
Has there been any news on Iron Man 3?
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It should've resumed filming today, in Florida I believe.
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I got the version with the graphic novel from Wal-Mart. I thought the graphic novel sucked.
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I think that's the 3D+Blu-ray+DVD+digital copy, unless there's another one.
I'm waiting for the 3D+Blu-ray+DVD+VCR+digital copy. And Lucas replaces all the guns with walkie talkies.
Good to know that even things Spielberg does to his own movies are Lucas' fault. :lol
Has there been any news on Iron Man 3?
AWE CRAP!! That's right! :facepalm: :lol :facepalm: :rollin
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I got the version with the graphic novel from Wal-Mart. I thought the graphic novel sucked.
Once again demonstrating why Wal-Mart sucks and Target rules. ;)
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Gave Target some of my money last night. :tup
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Awww dayum! Bosk found out Target is secretly building up a fund to create a hobo version of The Avengers! Words out! BAM.
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New deleted scene!
(https://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i238/hefdaddy42/funny/avengersdeletedscene.gif)
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That is the most awesome thing I have seen ever.
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(https://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i238/hefdaddy42/funny/thorhulk.gif)
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^^^
That is awesome.
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Looks like the 5 main characters for the new SHIELD show will not be anyone we're familiar with.
I'm sure Sam Jackson or someone will cameo the first episode. I just hope they actually keep in the same universe outside of just saying they are. Meaning I hope the stories cross over into the movies in some way and they don't stay totally separate.
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That thing is going to suck some old grandpa nuts.
Grandpa has AIDs too.
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That thing is going to suck some old grandpa nuts.
Grandpa has AIDs too.
Yea yea yea we get it Tio. You make posts that are outlandish and crass.
Congrats.
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Great job! You've uselessly taken a shot at me for no apparent reason. I'm not "making posts" that are outlandish and crass; that is simply how I decided to convey how I feel about what I think this show will be. Why that bothers you and why you needed to make an off-topic post that sarcastically takes a shot at me is beyond me. Maybe you have a hand in this show? Take a nap, jack off, let off some steam somehow; better yet, do what other people who don't like someone do: ignore them (unless you're taking notes from a 10-year-old, in which case you can continue to throw stones in my direction).
Back on track. So I watched The Avengers the other night on Blu-Ray and noticed that the blonde 'diner girl' who is saved by Captain America is Mel Gibson's daughter in What Women Want. She turned out to be really hot.
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Maybe you weren't being so before, but your response? Totally overdoing it. Lighten up, Francis. :lol
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Well, he got what he wanted. He threw the bait and I took it, and I always overdo everything, but there would be no overdone response if there weren't a smartass response like that in the first place.
Let's all keep talking about me. Please. It's on topic because I'm a superhero.
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Tio, my post wasn't an attempt at being clever. I appreciate humor as much as the next guy but being crass and disgusting for the sake of being crass and disgusting just isn't funny no matter how many 15 year olds cheer you on. You can be funny but posts like that one are witless and don't make reading these threads fun. Just say your opinion without trying to be raunchy. That's all. And there's no need to fight with me, I'm not attacking you, I'm just making a suggestion.
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Great job! You've uselessly taken a shot at me for no apparent reason. I'm not "making posts" that are outlandish and crass; that is simply how I decided to convey how I feel about what I think this show will be.
Nope, you do this on every topic you post in.
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:tup
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Cool, now that that's settled, what do you some of you guys think or hope the show will do?
As cute as I thought Item 47 was, I don't think I could watch a whole show like that.
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I don't know. I liked Item 47 a lot. We'll see.
It sounds like it will be almost entirely incidental to the films. I hope it's not just watered down, treating SHIELD like the CIA or something.
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I hope it's not just watered down, treating SHIELD like the CIA or something.
This is exactly what I'm picturing, albeit with a sci-fi twist relating to the marvel universe of course. It sounds like it'd be good to get in with a new audience though. But even still, I can't imagine this would have a much higher budget than the next ambitious, fictional TV series (Lost and Heroes are coming to mind). That said, if it doesn't try to do anything too wild or 'big', it could end up being a great little segue into Phase 2. I just don't have high hopes for it. We will indeed see...well, barring that it doesn't falter before it even begins to run.
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COULSON LIVES!!!!
https://www.ign.com/articles/2012/10/13/nycc-agent-coulson-is-the-lead-character-in-shield
No, we have no idea how it's going to happen either, but at New York Comic Con today, it was announced via a video message from Joss Whedon and Kevin Feige that Agent Phil Coulson, played by Clark Gregg, would be back in a big way.
Said Feige, "There was never going to be a 'S.H.I.E.L.D.' show without Agent Phil Coulson," with Whedon adding, "He's headlining the S.H.I.E.L.D. show and always was."
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What? No that's horrible.
Better make Wash and Book agents too while you're at it.
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The most logical reason, to me, is that the series takes place before The Avengers, not after.
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Oh, well in that case........still a horrible idea.
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They should call it "License to Phil".
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They should call it "License to Phil".
Dude......................I love it.
Well since it's official that son of Col will head the show, then I hope (at best) that the first season takes place leading up to The Avengers, and the 2nd and so on take place in current time. It'll be super confusing to have SHIELD take place before Avengers while movies like Iron Man 3, Thor 2 and Cap 2 are coming out.
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Yeah, I suppose so.
But a return of Coulson is not a bad thing.
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Yeah, I suppose so.
But a return of Coulson is not a bad thing.
If it takes place after The Avengers, it is. Because it completely undermines a major plot point in order to make the audience smile.
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Yeah, I suppose so.
But a return of Coulson is not a bad thing.
If it takes place after The Avengers, it is. Because it completely undermines a major plot point in order to make the audience smile.
I don't think that will happen.
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Yeah, I suppose so.
But a return of Coulson is not a bad thing.
If it takes place after The Avengers, it is. Because it completely undermines a major plot point in order to make the audience smile.
I don't think that will happen.
Which part? It taking place after The Avengers? Or it completely undermining a major plot point?
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What's so great about that character?
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What's so great about that character?
He is the son of Coul!
He's a cool guy. I don't think he should be brought back though.
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It would undermine a major plot point, but then again this is base on comics where death has no meaning.
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It would undermine a major plot point, but then again this is base on comics where death has no meaning.
Which is annoying. And some characters have actually died. Just not Captain America.
I'm actually curious of Charles will stay dead in the comics this time.
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Yeah, I suppose so.
But a return of Coulson is not a bad thing.
If it takes place after The Avengers, it is. Because it completely undermines a major plot point in order to make the audience smile.
I don't think that will happen.
Which part? It taking place after The Avengers? Or it completely undermining a major plot point?
I don't think it will take place after The Avengers. At least, the pilot won't, which is what will be starring Coulson.
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Makes his death worth it. Now we get him all by himself in all of his awesomeness.
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Marvel just released a synopsis of Thor: The Dark World and I just realized that Mr. Eko is in it! The synopsis is:
Marvel’s Thor: The Dark World continues the big-screen adventures of Thor, the Mighty Avenger, as he battles to save Earth and all the Nine Realms from a shadowy enemy that predates the universe itself. In the aftermath of Marvel’s Thor and Marvel’s The Avengers, Thor fights to restore order across the cosmos...but an ancient race led by the vengeful Malekith returns to plunge the universe back into darkness. Faced with an enemy that even Odin and Asgard cannot withstand, Thor must embark on his most perilous and personal journey yet, one that will reunite him with Jane Foster and force him to sacrifice everything to save us all.
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That was all known already, though I suppose it's nice to see an official synopsis.
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Iron Man 3 Trailer hot off the hard drives!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EjG-1U3wqA
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Wow that looks great.
That part when the Armor attacks Pepper sleeping next to Tony? Holy crap!
In fact the only thing I didn't love was Ben Kingslys voice.
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I liked the trailer very much. It really showed that this time it's something pretty serious happening to Tony, not that the other ones weren't life threatening or anything but this one seemed to have taken things to the next level. I like that.
That part when the Armor attacks Pepper sleeping next to Tony? Holy crap!
Stark is Iron Man, Iron Man is Stark, Iron Man wants to be in bed with Pepper too.
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Yep, looks great. Can't wait.
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Mandarin is gonna be a great villain.
Also, that music is great.
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Excitement level: so.
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I like the mental mind-fuck here better than the physical one (ala IM 2). Lookin good so far.
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https://www.ign.com/articles/2013/01/11/no-its-not-a-prequel-abc-president-confirms-shield-takes-place-after-the-avengers
Ever since it was announced that Clark Gregg would be part of the cast of S.H.I.E.L.D., the question all of us who saw The Avengers had was how could that be? How could Agent Phil Coulson, who appeared to die in that film, return? While there are plenty of theories on that, another question was if the series would even have to “resurrect” Coulson at all, with some wondering if maybe it was a prequel, set before the events of Avengers.
Last night at the TCA (Television Critics Association) press tour, I spoke to ABC president Paul Lee about S.H.I.E.L.D. and when I asked him how tied into the ongoing Marvel films the series would be, he replied, “There is no question that it is part of the Marvel Universe. In fact, the story takes place after the battle for New York."
...so they're "reviving" Coulson? :tdwn
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maybe it's going to be an AI of some kind
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Maybe he will be in flashbacks.
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So, which of the 'Hulk' movies you guys like better?
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Norton's for sure.
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Big year for Marvel coming.
New Iron Man 3 poster:
(https://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2013/02/PEPPER_UK.jpg)
I really like Gwenyth Paltrow as Pepper Pots, really good and cute actor.
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There was one from the Mandarin release last week that was so badass.
EDIT: Here it is
(https://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2013/02/68370.jpg)
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I'm pretty excited for Iron Man 3.
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Trailer. Don´t know If I´m breaking a rule here:
https://movies.yahoo.com/video/iron-man-3-theatrical-trailer-030044893.html (https://movies.yahoo.com/video/iron-man-3-theatrical-trailer-030044893.html)
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Also some guys over at IGN have seen 20 minutes of the movie and here's what they thought of it. Warning, some spoilers here.
https://www.ign.com/articles/2013/03/05/iron-man-3-ign-sees-new-footage-showing-someone-else-in-the-armor-tonys-new-friend-and-more (https://www.ign.com/articles/2013/03/05/iron-man-3-ign-sees-new-footage-showing-someone-else-in-the-armor-tonys-new-friend-and-more)
Trailer. Don´t know If I´m breaking a rule here:
https://movies.yahoo.com/video/iron-man-3-theatrical-trailer-030044893.html (https://movies.yahoo.com/video/iron-man-3-theatrical-trailer-030044893.html)
About this new trailer: I loved it all, except for that thing at the end that looked rediculous. What the hell was that?
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Aw man, what the deuce!? Why you be bashing the Hulk Buster? I soiled myself when I saw that; I absolutely love that armor (and the story that accompanies it which will no doubt not be used in any way in the movie but it's cool they have it anyway). Utterly badass armor. I'm excited for this movie. Verily.
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I am hoping that they lay the foundation for Civil War in Avengers 2. Alter the storyline and have Hulk destroy a town. Make Banners fugitive and create a division in the Avengers. You can't keep having them fight a "bigger army of aliens". Have them fight each other and the audience will be emotionally invested. Make Avengers 3 a full-blown Civil War movie....without actually killing Cap. Stage his assassination then shock the audience when he is shown to be alive.
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Tap, that is just too fucking awesome for them to do it. It would make them too much money and it makes far too much sense. Never gonna happen. That said, I would just throw all of my $478.63 at them. SO MUCH MONEY FOR THEM.
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Yeah, I'd love if they made Civil War and World War Hulk as movies.
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Kevin Feige is already on record as saying that Civil War is a fantastic storyline. I wouldn't be surprised.
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God I was trying really hard not to post on this forum, but I have to make a quick comment here.
I am currently re-reading the Civil War storyline. And by that I mean all nearly 100 comics involved. Now, I am on record as saying that this is by far the greatest comic book story I have ever read in my entire life.........and I don't want a movie it.
Why you ask? Because it would necessarily have to be butchered and simplified to virtually nothing in order to work in a movie context. Plus, there'd be no Reed Richards, no Spiderman, no mutants, no Black Panther, no New Avengers etc. At the very least, the lack of Richards and Spiderman would kill a huge part of the story. While the Stark/Rogers story line was clearly at the heart of it, the Spiderman angle was sheer brilliance and the Civil War would lose a great deal of heart without it, as it would without the story of the FF essentially turning on each other and breaking up due to the civil war. A movie version would just be 20-30 minutes if intro into it, 2 hours of a few battles with no real heart and then 20 minutes or so of clearing things up so that it won't matter at all in the next phase. Also, Thor is gone at the time, and the clone of him wouldn't work. Having the real Thor would make things weird too since who knows who's side he choose? Also, the fact that the characters would mostly be limited to the 4 or 5 guys in the last few movies kind of kills it. The civil war needed the countless characters it had to make it feel big and real. It affected the whole Marvel universe. It needed The Avengers, The New Avengers, the X-Men, the Fantastic Four, and all of the countless individual characters to make it feel good.
Making a movie of the Civil War for the sake of it would just ruin the Civil War.
World War Hulk would be a problem too, for different reasons. One, it just won't sell many tickets knowing that the entire premise is Hulk and a bunch of people most audiences wouldn't know coming to take vengence on the Illimunati (who aren't in the films) which would just consist of Stark since he's the only one in the movies. They'd have to majorly re-write the entire story and then what would be the point? Also, Joss Whedon said there'd be no World War Hulk movie.
Personally as much as I love the movies, I think things like Marvel would work best in a very high budget television concept. A whole season of the Civil War? Yes, that might work. 3 hours? Not in the least.
Sorry.
Also, hi everyone. Don't expect me to post this much, I just really had to say that before it becomes pages of "Yes civil war movie!". Tah tah.
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My biggest problem going into Avengers was that there was not an established need for the Avengers. There was no existing threat which made a team of superheroes necessary, so when they kinda threw it in there, it felt rushed to me. That is why I would have Hulk go nuts in the next movie only to be reeled in for the big fight at the end. In Avengers, there was reference to a public outcry after the events in NY, so run with it. They all went their separate ways. Have Hulk destroy a small town after being cornered by General Ross. Dont wipe out an elementary school (like in Civil War), but complete destruction of small-town USA would get the people up in arms. Have Shandling's character (Iron Man 2) spearhead the Superhuman Regustration Act. This would set up perfectly for Avengers 3. Fighting a bigger army (like the LOTR trilogy) gets boring, but fighting each other would be epic.
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ADAMI!
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God I was trying really hard not to post on this forum, but I have to make a quick comment here.
I am currently re-reading the Civil War storyline. And by that I mean all nearly 100 comics involved. Now, I am on record as saying that this is by far the greatest comic book story I have ever read in my entire life.........and I don't want a movie it.
Why you ask? Because it would necessarily have to be butchered and simplified to virtually nothing in order to work in a movie context. Plus, there'd be no Reed Richards, no Spiderman, no mutants, no Black Panther, no New Avengers etc. At the very least, the lack of Richards and Spiderman would kill a huge part of the story. While the Stark/Rogers story line was clearly at the heart of it, the Spiderman angle was sheer brilliance and the Civil War would lose a great deal of heart without it, as it would without the story of the FF essentially turning on each other and breaking up due to the civil war. A movie version would just be 20-30 minutes if intro into it, 2 hours of a few battles with no real heart and then 20 minutes or so of clearing things up so that it won't matter at all in the next phase. Also, Thor is gone at the time, and the clone of him wouldn't work. Having the real Thor would make things weird too since who knows who's side he choose? Also, the fact that the characters would mostly be limited to the 4 or 5 guys in the last few movies kind of kills it. The civil war needed the countless characters it had to make it feel big and real. It affected the whole Marvel universe. It needed The Avengers, The New Avengers, the X-Men, the Fantastic Four, and all of the countless individual characters to make it feel good.
Making a movie of the Civil War for the sake of it would just ruin the Civil War.
World War Hulk would be a problem too, for different reasons. One, it just won't sell many tickets knowing that the entire premise is Hulk and a bunch of people most audiences wouldn't know coming to take vengence on the Illimunati (who aren't in the films) which would just consist of Stark since he's the only one in the movies. They'd have to majorly re-write the entire story and then what would be the point? Also, Joss Whedon said there'd be no World War Hulk movie.
Personally as much as I love the movies, I think things like Marvel would work best in a very high budget television concept. A whole season of the Civil War? Yes, that might work. 3 hours? Not in the least.
Sorry.
Also, hi everyone. Don't expect me to post this much, I just really had to say that before it becomes pages of "Yes civil war movie!". Tah tah.
I agree that I don't want 20-30 minutes of buildup. Marvel knew that they were going to do 8+ movies from the get-go, so the seeds should have already been planted. Remember, you have the IM, Thor, Guardians, and Cap movies to further the idea. I would even consider the destruction of the town taking place in a standalone Hulk movie. I don't want a Planet Hulk movie cause I want it to feel as grounded in reality as possible.....aside from the superheroes, alien armies, Tesseract, etc.
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Aw man, what the deuce!? Why you be bashing the Hulk Buster? I soiled myself when I saw that; I absolutely love that armor (and the story that accompanies it which will no doubt not be used in any way in the movie but it's cool they have it anyway). Utterly badass armor. I'm excited for this movie. Verily.
Well it looked pretty bad... Like a fat baby in an Iron Man suit. I really hope it's goinf to be used for as little time as possible because that thing dragged the trailer down a couple of notches.
I am hoping that they lay the foundation for Civil War in Avengers 2. Alter the storyline and have Hulk destroy a town. Make Banners fugitive and create a division in the Avengers. You can't keep having them fight a "bigger army of aliens". Have them fight each other and the audience will be emotionally invested. Make Avengers 3 a full-blown Civil War movie....without actually killing Cap. Stage his assassination then shock the audience when he is shown to be alive.
Or just kill him, I would have no problem with that...
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I've been thinking, if Marvel had the film rights to the X-Men I think Avengers vs X-Men would make an awesome film. It'd be fuckin' A.
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I've been thinking, if Marvel had the film rights to the X-Men I think Avengers vs X-Men would make an awesome film. It'd be fuckin' A.
It wouldn't make much sense though... Unfortnunately.
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Why unfortunately? That would be a clusterfuck of a film.
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Why unfortunately? That would be a clusterfuck of a film.
Unfortunately for the guy I quoted who thinks an Avengers vs X-men movie would be fuckin' A.
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Here's an AWESOME analysis of Whedon's genius by a fellow film writer. It's long but it's a great read, especially for film students:
https://comicsbeat.com/everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know-about-the-avengers-movie/
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I've been thinking, if Marvel had the film rights to the X-Men I think Avengers vs X-Men would make an awesome film. It'd be fuckin' A.
It wouldn't make much sense though... Unfortnunately.
There is an Avengers vs. X-Men story. There's a lot of backstory leading up to the fight though that would be tough to pull off in movieland.
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The more I read Age of Ultron, the more I think this would be the end-all of apocalyptic superhero awesomeness if they could make it work. I mean, it never will and they'd completely fuck it up if they even tried, but just to imagine it done right gets my blood flowing. It would be so incredibly epic and groundbreaking what with all the deaths of the ones that we call 'super'. Argh! Awesome comic though...even if it is moving at a snail's pace right now..
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I've been thinking, if Marvel had the film rights to the X-Men I think Avengers vs X-Men would make an awesome film. It'd be fuckin' A.
It wouldn't make much sense though... Unfortnunately.
There is an Avengers vs. X-Men story. There's a lot of backstory leading up to the fight though that would be tough to pull off in movieland.
There was a toooon of backstory that lead up to AvX. You can trace it all the way to House of M (probably further back). It would be impossible to do in movie form!
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Wolverine Trailer is finally out. Me likey.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEbzZP-_Ssc
And on the topic of a Avengers v x-men movie, in theory it would be awesome. However, in practicality, it's hard enough for each individual franchise to give the characters enough screen time. Hawkeye got squat in The Avengers. Just thinking about McKellan, Stewart, Jackman, Barry, and the rest of original gang + Fasbender, Lawrence, McAvoy... all those actors/characters sharing one movie is enough of a challenge.
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I think Days of Future Past is already pushing the casting issue enough, they're likely going to blow all of their budget on getting those actors (Halle Berry = barf), so doing an all out Civil War or AVX movie is likely out of the question for that reason alone.
Beyond that, I don't see how the Civil War would work at all with what has been established in the Cinematic Universe. While the films haven't really gotten into the aspect of what each character would think about registration, I feel like making Robert Downey Jr's Tony Stark the head of the Pro-Reg movement and hunting down his friends would be reeeeeeeeallly forcing it. PLUS, secret identities are an absolute non-factor in these films so why would anyone even care?
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Watched Avengers twice within the past week and a half. Never get tired of it. It is literally my favorite movie right now. Starting to get extremely psyched for Iron Man 3 . . . and it's getting a lot harder to avoid spoilers for it.
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Ch'yeah, I'm done reading up on IM3; I read a single word the other day and just about blew a gasket. Luckily nothing was actually spoiled for me but the word hinted at something big. Either way, the past few big movies I've been interested in have in some way been spoiled for me. No mas! I'm really, really excited for it though.
Also, anyone else see the new concept art for Ant-Man, The Winter Soldier, and the on-set pictures of The Dark World? They all look amazing. (and here I am talking about avoiding spoilers lawlz...although nothing in itself is spoiled at all for those wondering; still very early concepts and green-screen pics for Thor)
P.S. I would like those titles so much more if they just left the subtitled parts instead of it being Thor: The Dark World and Captain America: The Winter Soldier. I dunno...has a better ring to it in my opinion.
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They do need to point out to the average movie goer "this is a sequeeeel!! seee iiit!!" the hardcore fan, like we that post on this thread, would go either way because we know they're the sequels.
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MASSIVE IRON MAN 3 SPOILERS - DO NOT READ UNLESS YOU'VE SEEN IT
Iron Man 3 (2013)
This movie started off slow, but in a good way. I like it when a movie takes the time it needs to set up a story and not rushing it. Then the middle third of the movie was really really good. The destruction of Tony's house was cool and the scenes that followed were excellent.
Then by the third third of this movie something happened. It started to become pretty rediculous. When the Mandarin (or Ben Kingsley's Mandarin) turned out to actually be this goofy actor guy I was seriously chocked. That turn was funny for sure, but not as cool as it would have been to just actually have Ben Kingsley's Mandarin as the villain. He was awesome when we saw him in that character and I just think it would have been better if they stuck to that.
Then I didn't really care for the climax of the movie. Visually it was pretty cool but I mean "last mission - save the president of the United States", that is a pretty irritating turn. It's not personal at all for any of the characters we care about so it's just unnessesary patriotic bullshit. I know that that's probably why they also had Pepper there, to make it at least a little personally relevant.
Then there were these other cartoony stuff I just thought was weird. Like Guy Pierce breathing fire, I do realize that was from the comics but it looked stupid in a live action movie. I also thought it was pretty dum that Pepper, like 3 minutes after being injected with EXTREMIS, was the most awesome fighter in the world. I mean she did those backflip kicks and beat the shit out of Guy Pierce and I just found that rediculous.
Feels like I've almost only talked about the stuff I didn't like, but this movie actually has a lot of good stuff too. Like I said the second act is great. There's also that little kid who's actually awesome. That coud have been really lame but it absolutely wasn't, his interraction with Tony was great and he was just likable.
Overall good movie, but not fantastic in any way. Good first act, amazing second act but disappointing third.
7.3/10 - Good
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I agree with just about everything posted above.
Good flick. Terrible twist. Great action.
I love Iron Man film humor but it was used just one or two too many times to undermine serious tension.
Loved the little kid. Hated what they did with Ben Kingsley's character.
However, the end credits sequence was awesome, as was the cameo afterward (he's looking old, by the way).
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Yeah, I was kind of disappointed with Ben Kingsley's twist, more so because of the great video packages he got in the movie! Damn shame about that, but even with my disappointment I couldn't help but laugh at those scenes!
The little kid was great!
The product placement was pretty lol though, but most of the action sequences were pretty awesome, I especially liked the one where Tony is beating everyone up with just the one glove and boot.
Also, give me my Hulk/Iron Man buddy cop film now!
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Really good movie! Definitely better than Iron Man 2, maybe better than Iron Man 1 and The Avengers. I was very impressed.
One thing though. I didn't get why the real Mandarin didn't just regenerate again after the second explosion that hit him. Is there some kind of limit to the regenerative power or something? I also didn't get the Mandarin's motives. Apparently he's mad at Stark for turning him down in that business meeting, but...why does he want to be a terrorist again? What does he gain from that, exactly?
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His motivations lie somewhere between killing Tony, taking over American politics, and marrying Pepper.
I don't feel this was very well thought out.
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So...
This could easily fall apart soon if Marvel doesn't get their act together and start working to get the cast back.
Robert Downey Jr - contract expired. In talks to do Avengers 2 and 3. Refuses to talk about Iron Man 4 until the other cast members get better contracts.
Chris Hemsworth - contract expired with "Thor: The Dark World". Reportedly he almost didn't do the Thor sequel even though he was on contract. He made peanuts on Avengers compared to what he took home for "Snow White and the Huntsman", which is getting a sequel. He has been threatened with replacement.
Scarlett Johannson - contract expired with "Captain America: The Winter Soldier". Reportedly not willing to do Avengers 2 unless a better contract is put in place.
Jeremy Renner - has not been asked to be in any future Marvel films.
So outside of RDJ, I guess Marvel is pretty notorious for playing low-ball. We've already seen Norton get replaced, though that was for other issues. While I like Don Cheadle, he too was brought in to replace Terrence Howard, who they lost on contract deals.
I don't know about anyone else, but I'm not really interested in seeing a revolving door of Avengers actors. They did a great job with the casting, I think they should respect that for the duration of the comic book film bubble, which probably only has a few years left.
Can you imagine seeing Avengers 2 with only Chris Evans and Mark Ruffalo returning? I mean there is still Samuel L Jackson and Cobie Smulders, but come on.
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Yeah, once you've established an actor as the character in multiple films, it's not something that is easily accepted by the fans if changed. Given The Avengers specifically is an ensemble, it would be a disaster if 1/2 or more of that ensemble was different. Renner is the only disposable one - both the character or actor. He doesn't have any other 'history' from other films. RDJ is 1000%indispensable, and Hemsworth is 100%. Johansson, who I love, i suppose could be filled with someone else (but I wouldn't want her to be).
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Mark Ruffalo replacing the other guy as the Hulk seemed to work, but that might of been because (a) Ruffalo is a better Hulk anyway, and (b) Hulk only had one movie at that point, and it wasn't good enough to really establish the other guy as the Hulk. At this point, I could only see them replacing Hawkeye or minor SHIELDS characters. But if one of the other guys do drop out, then it would probably be better just to write them out of the saga than to replace them.
I'd really like to see Spidey come in somehow. I mean, it's Marvel. You can't not have Spider-Man. Disney has to be the monolithic corporation that it is and just buy the rights. They just have to do it.
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Yeah, once you've established an actor as the character in multiple films, it's not something that is easily accepted by the fans if changed. Given The Avengers specifically is an ensemble, it would be a disaster if 1/2 or more of that ensemble was different. Renner is the only disposable one - both the character or actor. He doesn't have any other 'history' from other films. RDJ is 1000%indispensable, and Hemsworth is 100%. Johansson, who I love, i suppose could be filled with someone else (but I wouldn't want her to be).
I agree with everything you said. While Johansson is the "most dispensable" of the group outside of Renner (who doesn't appear to have any more appearances anyway), keep in mind she will have 3 appearances as the Black Widow by the time the film comes out. So even though she isn't the most vital, she will still be somewhat well established. In the Avengers she got more screen time than Thor.
Mark Ruffalo replacing the other guy as the Hulk seemed to work, but that might of been because (a) Ruffalo is a better Hulk anyway, and (b) Hulk only had one movie at that point, and it wasn't good enough to really establish the other guy as the Hulk. At this point, I could only see them replacing Hawkeye or minor SHIELDS characters. But if one of the other guys do drop out, then it would probably be better just to write them out of the saga than to replace them.
I'd really like to see Spidey come in somehow. I mean, it's Marvel. You can't not have Spider-Man. Disney has to be the monolithic corporation that it is and just buy the rights. They just have to do it.
Agreed. I don't know if it's a popular opinion or not, but I would 100% support Andrew Garfield's Spider-Man doing some unprecedented crossover with the established Avengers. I think he would actually jibe really well with the other characters.
Relevant...
Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are confirmed for Avengers 2. The MCU hasn't tackled mutants before, and I wonder if they are allowed to mention that their father is Magneto.
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As long as Sony owns the rights to Spider-Man (the entire point of the reboot), we will never see any sort of crossover. Don't even hope... Fuckin' greed insures that won't happen. Apparently, greed is also going to bring down the whole god damn franchise. Absolutely ridiculous. I'm almost at the point where I'll say fuck all of it if they change up a major character all because of money. That is so absolutely annoying. I mean, someone like Hawkeye or Black Widow...maybe, and even then Widow is established enough and Johansson is talented enough to consider that a substantial loss. But to even talk about replacing any of the others is screwed. Fuck it. Let them ruin it for the sake of a bigger paycheck and/or not paying someone enough; either option is ludicrous. Awesome. Establish this great universe and then let it crumble. :tup :\
Back to comics.
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Technically, it was the second Hulk movie if you count the horrible Eric Bana one.
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Yeah but that Hulk film wasn't part of this continuity.
And I know the Spider-Man crossover won't happen, but it actually came a lot closer than many people know with the Osbourn building model and all.
I'm against any future recasts. Though Johansson would be forgivable to some degree, replacing Hemsworth, or ESPECIALLY Downey would be unforgivable.
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Don't the actors usually have to sign some sort of confidentiality clause? For example, if RDJ told everyone that he signed on for Iron Man 4, that would of course indicate that there will actually be an Iron Man 4, which would take away from the edge of Marvel's element of surprise. So it could be that he's already made a decision to continue with Marvel but he just can't talk about it.
So maybe Marvel is doing better than it seems. Who knows? With these types of things, anything could be going on.
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Avengers 2/Thor: Dark World is most likely going to deal with Thanos' hunt for the Infinity Gauntlet.
Note: wild mass speculation, but it makes so much sense: https://maskofreason.wordpress.com/2012/05/23/very-good-writing-why-loki-won-in-the-avengers/
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Anyone seen the trailer for the Whedon-produced "Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D." which debuts on TV this fall? Looks pretty good.
**SPOILER**
Coulson is back!
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**SPOILER**
Coulson is back!
Even though I liked him, I'm not sure how I feel about this.
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We kinda discussed this a few pages back. I'm not happy about it, unless it's supposed to be set before the events of Avengers, because I don't think that old comic book "characters are never truly dead" thing won't work on this medium.
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We kinda discussed this a few pages back. I'm not happy about it, unless it's supposed to be set before the events of Avengers, because I don't think that old comic book "characters are never truly dead" thing won't work on this medium.
Perhaps he wasn't dead? Fury wanted to use his death as a way to manipulate the Avengers.
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We kinda discussed this a few pages back. I'm not happy about it, unless it's supposed to be set before the events of Avengers, because I don't think that old comic book "characters are never truly dead" thing won't work on this medium.
It's definitely set after Avengers. The full-length promo makes this clear.
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https://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2013/05/16/whedon-gregg-explain-why-coulson-living-works-on-s-h-i-e-l-d/
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I don't get what's so special about Coulson. He was funny I guess, but what's the big deal?
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Well, he's something of an audience surrogate, being the "normal" guy surrounded by heroes. But, on top of that, he's still competent and heroic in his own right.
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I don't get what's so special about Coulson. He was funny I guess, but what's the big deal?
He's back from the dead, which is ridiculous. That's the big deal.
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I don't get what's so special about Coulson. He was funny I guess, but what's the big deal?
He's back from the dead, which is ridiculous. That's the big deal.
Do you mean ridiculous/stupid, or ridiculous/awesome?
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I don't get what's so special about Coulson. He was funny I guess, but what's the big deal?
He's back from the dead, which is ridiculous. That's the big deal.
Well I meant before his death. They brought him back because he was a fan favorite, but he didn't really stand out to me that much.
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Do you mean ridiculous/stupid, or ridiculous/awesome?
Stupid.
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Do you mean ridiculous/stupid, or ridiculous/awesome?
Stupid.
Right, because coming back from the dead (or whatever the explanation turns out to be) is stupid in a lore with gamma-ray mutants, gods, aliens and a cosmic cube that has the power of the universe in something the size of a soccer ball.
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It's always lame to bring someone back from the dead like that, even if it's a lore with pink lava-breathing tyrannosauruses with the power to summon Satan.
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I don't see the big deal.
BTW, I finally saw Iron Man 3 and I really enjoyed it. I am probably one of the few who liked the Mandarin twist.
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I don't see the big deal.
BTW, I finally saw Iron Man 3 and I really enjoyed it. I am probably one of the few who liked the Mandarin twist.
I thought it was pretty awesome actually, one of the best moments in the Iron Man movies, but I'm not a comic book reader.
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That twist was a rotten jab sucker punch below the belt etc. etc.
Anyway, as we now know, everyone's favorite twincesting duo, Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch, are set to be in Avengers 2.
X-Men: Days of Future Past just announced that they have cast someone to play Quicksilver. This raises a couple questions.
Firstly, it looks like both studios have rights to these characters (Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch) since they were members of both teams (Avengers and X-Men). But are the companies making Marvel movies really not communicating with each other?
If the casting gets announced for Avengers 2 with a different actor as Quicksilver, that means we have two stories running along both using different Quicksilvers. This might be confusing at worst, stupid at best to most audiences.
If the casting gets announced with the same actor...crossover? If there is a crossover, does this open the door to other crossovers like Spider-Man? Probably not, but it is interesting that at least one character is being put into different films by different studios following different teams.
EDIT: https://geektyrant.com/news/2013/5/23/quicksilver-will-be-in-x-men-days-of-future-past-before-aven.html
This explains how it works legally a little more I suppose.
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The way I understand it is that Marvel is less than thrilled about this new development.
BTW, I also understand that they could in theory cast actors as any of the X-Men, Fantastic Four, or Spider-Man to appear in their TV show Agents of SHIELD, since Sony and Fox only own the film rights to those characters, not the TV rights. :metal
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I think I had read Marvel could use Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch as long as they don't mention they're siblings and that their powers are results of they being mutants. But that certainly sounds like a dick move from Fox.
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They listened to the fans and shoe horned Venom into Spider-man 3. Surely there are a lot of fans crying out for Spider-man in The Avengers. Why can't they give us what we want? Having cross overs like this will likely triple the box office results.
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Yeah, but Sony would likely ask for half the total revenue to let them use Spider-Man, which is unfortunately way too much. I think Andrew Garfield would jibe incredibly well with the Avengers cast (assuming most of them return).
And yeah, I just read an article confirming there will be no working together on the Quicksilver/Scarlet Witch issue. Marvel can't say they're mutants or reference Magneto. FOX can't reference the Avengers. Marvel can use the names Pietro and Wanda while FOX can call them Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch.
These rules are dumb.
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in a way, Marvel has an Earth 1,2,3 etc in the movies, just like DC had for decades in the comics until COIE
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This is just a dick move from Bryan Singer. He's wanting to use Quicksilver just because. He played no role in the original "Days of Future Past" storyline (if I recall), and hasn't been seen in any of first X-Men films. No reason to use him in this other than to be a dick.
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Most of the mutants they are using in the film had nothing to do with the Days of Future Past arc.
In fact one of the most important characters in that arc, Cable, is nowhere to be seen.
So they're just using the name because the story deals with time travel in some regard it sounds like.
Still, dick move, Singer.
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Just saw IM3 over the weekend. Unfortunately, the series is starting to suffer from "the next movie has to be bigger and better than the one before it, so let's figure out how we can top the last one!" syndrome. But other than that, I quite enjoyed it. I thought the Mandarin twist was great. It was unexpected, but still credible under the circumstances. The way things were set up, it was obvious from the opening sequence that Killian was going to be one of the bad guys. So I knew immediately that he was working with Kingsley's character long before it was revealed. But as far as Killian actually being the Mandarin and Kingsley's character just being an empty figurehead...didn't see that coming at all.
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Just saw IM3 over the weekend. Unfortunately, the series is starting to suffer from "the next movie has to be bigger and better than the one before it, so let's figure out how we can top the last one!" syndrome. But other than that, I quite enjoyed it. I thought the Mandarin twist was great. It was unexpected, but still credible under the circumstances. The way things were set up, it was obvious from the opening sequence that Killian was going to be one of the bad guys. So I knew immediately that he was working with Kingsley's character long before it was revealed. But as far as Killian actually being the Mandarin and Kingsley's character just being an empty figurehead...didn't see that coming at all.
I'm still convinced that the old guy was acting an act. In other words, he IS the mandarin, rings, magic and all, and Killian just said he was the mandarin so Tony would stop thinking there was a threat.
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Just saw IM3 over the weekend. Unfortunately, the series is starting to suffer from "the next movie has to be bigger and better than the one before it, so let's figure out how we can top the last one!" syndrome. But other than that, I quite enjoyed it. I thought the Mandarin twist was great. It was unexpected, but still credible under the circumstances. The way things were set up, it was obvious from the opening sequence that Killian was going to be one of the bad guys. So I knew immediately that he was working with Kingsley's character long before it was revealed. But as far as Killian actually being the Mandarin and Kingsley's character just being an empty figurehead...didn't see that coming at all.
I'm still convinced that the old guy was acting an act. In other words, he IS the mandarin, rings, magic and all, and Killian just said he was the mandarin so Tony would stop thinking there was a threat.
Yeah, that could be. Whether they use the character again in a future movie or not, it would have been kind of cool if the end-credits scene was something very vague suggesting that he was actually the Mandarin after all, but leaving it very vague and potentially up in the air. Without that, if they do go down that road in the future, it will feel a lot more like retconning than them having the plan to do that all along. But in the grand scheme of things, not a big deal either way, I suppose.
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Just saw IM3 over the weekend. Unfortunately, the series is starting to suffer from "the next movie has to be bigger and better than the one before it, so let's figure out how we can top the last one!" syndrome. But other than that, I quite enjoyed it. I thought the Mandarin twist was great. It was unexpected, but still credible under the circumstances. The way things were set up, it was obvious from the opening sequence that Killian was going to be one of the bad guys. So I knew immediately that he was working with Kingsley's character long before it was revealed. But as far as Killian actually being the Mandarin and Kingsley's character just being an empty figurehead...didn't see that coming at all.
I'm still convinced that the old guy was acting an act. In other words, he IS the mandarin, rings, magic and all, and Killian just said he was the mandarin so Tony would stop thinking there was a threat.
I was convinced the Kingsley character was 'working' Stark, and that he was still The Mandarin - and while it was a cool twist, I was kinda disappointed they didn't play it that way. Would be cool if it comes back that way in a future IM movie. Kingsley seemed like an amazing choice for The Mandarin.
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I think that's why they did that. Everybody thought Kingsley was perfect for that role. I do love Guy Pearce in most of his roles. He's an excellent actor.
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Yeah, after watching Iron Man 3, I developed a slight man crush on Guy Pearce.
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Yeah, after watching Iron Man 3, I developed a slight man crush on Guy Pearce.
Great movies he's in.
L.A. Confidential
Memento
The Proposition
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Guy Pearce is a good actor, does a lot of small roles though so you don't get to see him much..
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How Iron Man 3 Should Have Ended:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUYW0JyzydA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUYW0JyzydA)
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So,
The air plane scene at the end was great, except for the end of it. To stop a terminal velocity free fall in a matter of a 50 feet or so will have enough acceleration to generate a force that can easily rip the dude's arm right out. Its why parachutes are deployed high; to give enough time for a bearable deceleration.
I was about to pull a Seinfeld after seeing that:
(https://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Jerry-Seinfeld-No-Thanks-and-Leave.gif)
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Right... that's the part you pick apart in a movie franchise where I guy can learn to fly with feet and arm thrusters on his second attempt; and the part where the decompression would likely rip the plane apart; and the part that his chest plate weapon knows when to stop and not blow right through the back of the plane (definite decompression); and the part where the body armour parts can fly from Tennessee to Miami in a mater of moments with no visible fuel source; and the part ...
Physics doesn't exist in sci-fi movies like it does on planet REALITY!
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So,
The air plane scene at the end was great, except for the end of it. To stop a terminal velocity free fall in a matter of a 50 feet or so will have enough acceleration to generate a force that can easily rip the dude's arm right out. Its why parachutes are deployed high; to give enough time for a bearable deceleration.
If these movies were adhering to actual physics, Tony would have been turned to jelly inside his suit in the first movie, and we would have had not sequels.
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So,
The air plane scene at the end was great, except for the end of it. To stop a terminal velocity free fall in a matter of a 50 feet or so will have enough acceleration to generate a force that can easily rip the dude's arm right out. Its why parachutes are deployed high; to give enough time for a bearable deceleration.
If these movies were adhering to actual physics, Tony would have been turned to jelly inside his suit in the first movie, and we would have had not sequels.
Find the physics that make it possible for a 100 ton flying caterpillar to fly out of an equally impossible wormhole
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So,
The air plane scene at the end was great, except for the end of it. To stop a terminal velocity free fall in a matter of a 50 feet or so will have enough acceleration to generate a force that can easily rip the dude's arm right out. Its why parachutes are deployed high; to give enough time for a bearable deceleration.
If these movies were adhering to actual physics, Tony would have been turned to jelly inside his suit in the first movie, and we would have had not sequels.
Find the physics that make it possible for a 100 ton flying caterpillar to fly out of an equally impossible wormhole
And for the Earth's gravity to extend into the "space" through that wormhole.
We could spend pages pointing out the flaws in every/any sci-fi movie.
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Also, according to Neil deGrasse Tyson, Thor's hammer weights approximately 4.5 quadrillion pounds, which introduces a couple problems of its own.
But also, Thor > everyone. :D
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Also, according to Neil deGrasse Tyson, Thor's hammer weights approximately 4.5 quadrillion pounds, which introduces a couple problems of its own.
But also, Thor > everyone. :D
Yeah, that probably would've taken the heli-carrier down, even with 4 engines. :lol
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Also, according to Neil deGrasse Tyson, Thor's hammer weights approximately 4.5 quadrillion pounds, which introduces a couple problems of its own.
How does he get that?
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How Iron Man 3 Should Have Ended:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUYW0JyzydA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUYW0JyzydA)
:rollin That is truly brilliant. I love Fury's, "Yeah, girl! You wanna go save the world?" :lol
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Also, according to Neil deGrasse Tyson, Thor's hammer weights approximately 4.5 quadrillion pounds, which introduces a couple problems of its own.
How does he get that?
I think because in the movies Mjolnir was made inside a dying star (neutron star) so they take the density of that or something.
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Also, according to Neil deGrasse Tyson, Thor's hammer weights approximately 4.5 quadrillion pounds, which introduces a couple problems of its own.
How does he get that?
I think because in the movies Mjolnir was made inside a dying star (neutron star) so they take the density of that or something.
Well that's silly.
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reminds me of the key Superman made for the Fortress of Solitude in the All-Star Superman comic. He said he carved it out of a piece of dwarf star material and that it weighed half a million tons. (this was a normal sized key, not the giant key he used to use in the silver-age comics)
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So, Glenn Close and Karen Gillan have joined the cast of Guardians of the Galaxy. I am going from somewhat ambivalent to very, very interested.
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Also, according to Neil deGrasse Tyson, Thor's hammer weights approximately 4.5 quadrillion pounds, which introduces a couple problems of its own.
How does he get that?
I think because in the movies Mjolnir was made inside a dying star (neutron star) so they take the density of that or something.
Well that's silly.
It is, but still.
https://popwatch.ew.com/2013/02/08/how-much-does-thors-hammer-actually-weigh-scientist-answers-pressing-question/
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Well, as I recall, it's not made OF a star, but FROM a star, which I would take to mean that it's just a piece, not the whole darn thing.
Besides, it's mythology.
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Also, the article makes it sound like Thor can lift the hammer because he's the only one strong enough to lift 4.5 whateverion pounds, but physically he's about as strong as Iron Man and probably weaker than the Hulk. The magic/tech of the hammer is why only Thor (and Odin) can lift it.
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Nah. Even Ultimate Thor, which was MUCH weaker than the original 616 Thor has always been way stronger than Iron Man.
According to Stan Lee, Thor > Hulk.
But yes, the enchantment is why only Thor and Odin can lift it. They are worthy, those who can't lift it are not.
And also yes, the actual line is "forged in the heart of a dying star".
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The magic/tech of the hammer is why only Thor (and Odin) can lift it.
But yes, the enchantment is why only Thor and Odin can lift it. They are worthy, those who can't lift it are not.
Beta Ray Bill!!!
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Also, the article makes it sound like Thor can lift the hammer because he's the only one strong enough to lift 4.5 whateverion pounds, but physically he's about as strong as Iron Man and probably weaker than the Hulk.
???
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Well at least I thought he was since it was a pretty even fight in the Avengers. But Thor being stronger than Iron Man does make sense, but it's not extremely much stronger judging by what the Avengers showed.
According to Stan Lee, Thor > Hulk.
I thought the Hulk had no upper limit to his strength, that it just depended on how angry he was? That's what made him cool to me.
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Well at least I thought he was since it was a pretty even fight in the Avengers. But Thor being stronger than Iron Man does make sense, but it's not extremely much stronger judging by what the Avengers showed.
According to Stan Lee, Thor > Hulk.
I thought the Hulk had no upper limit to his strength, that it just depended on how angry he was? That's what made him cool to me.
I was a dedicated reader of the Hulk comic for 20 years from 1981-2000 or so. They had many epic throwdowns, some resulting in savage beatings of Thor. Thor pretty much had to depend on his hammer or he was over-matched. I suppose it was depicted differently in the Thor comic though.
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Are we really have a "Who is stronger--Thor or Hulk?" debate? Really? :lol
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Are we really have a "Who is stronger--Thor or Hulk?" debate? Really? :lol
Are you kidding? That is the basis of comic character fandom - "Who is stronger? Who is faster? Who is smarter?" etc etc. Whole letter columns were devoted to such questions in the comics for literally decades.
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Are we really have a "Who is stronger--Thor or Hulk?" debate? Really? :lol
Yeah we should get back to serious stuff... like top 50 favorite Dream Theatre songs. :neverusethis:
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Are we really have a "Who is stronger--Thor or Hulk?" debate? Really? :lol
Yeah we should get back to serious stuff... like top 50 favorite Dream Theatre songs. :neverusethis:
ACoS, Space-Dye Vest, 8VM etc etc. That's already basically decided.
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Well at least I thought he was since it was a pretty even fight in the Avengers. But Thor being stronger than Iron Man does make sense, but it's not extremely much stronger judging by what the Avengers showed.
According to Stan Lee, Thor > Hulk.
I thought the Hulk had no upper limit to his strength, that it just depended on how angry he was? That's what made him cool to me.
Well, nothing in the whole film seemed to hurt Thor except for Loki's knife thing. And don't forget that Iron Man was at 400% power for a portion of that fight (thanks to Thor). Thor was able to crush his near indestructible armor with both of his bare hands. So yes, even in film world, Thor is probably considerably stronger still.
Well at least I thought he was since it was a pretty even fight in the Avengers. But Thor being stronger than Iron Man does make sense, but it's not extremely much stronger judging by what the Avengers showed.
According to Stan Lee, Thor > Hulk.
I thought the Hulk had no upper limit to his strength, that it just depended on how angry he was? That's what made him cool to me.
I was a dedicated reader of the Hulk comic for 20 years from 1981-2000 or so. They had many epic throwdowns, some resulting in savage beatings of Thor. Thor pretty much had to depend on his hammer or he was over-matched. I suppose it was depicted differently in the Thor comic though.
Stan Lee had two interesting quotes on the subject. Firstly, he created Thor to be the best: "Nobody can beat him. Not even the Hulk!" and much later he stated that Thor always holds back fighting the Hulk knowing that there is a good man inside.
Still, if movie Thor had all his powers from the comics (and was as strong as the comics) there would likely be no need for the rest of the Avengers.
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I remember having the marvel universe comics, like, and encyclopedia of the characters, back in the 80s. Like blackInk said, Hulk's strength was the only character with at was immeasurable, because the angrier he got, the stronger he got. I always understood Thor and Hulk are the two most powerful (strength wise)characters in the Marvel Universe.
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Robert Downey Jr signs fro Avengers 2 and 3, because he doesn't hate money.
https://variety.com/2013/film/news/robert-downey-jr-signs-on-for-avengers-2-and-avengers-3-1200500128/
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Robert Downey Jr signs fro Avengers 2 and 3, because he doesn't hate money.
https://variety.com/2013/film/news/robert-downey-jr-signs-on-for-avengers-2-and-avengers-3-1200500128/
Well that's good.
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Great news... Now, that is when I could see a new Iron Man being implemented. By that point, we're years into the universe and most of their planned story arcs will probably have been completed. They take a break...form a new couple arcs and characters to implement..etc. etc. Then the search begins. Sad thing is that it's inevitable despite the fact that I wish we could make Jr. immortal and force him to be Iron Man for the rest of his immortal life because he IS Iron Man...but that won't happen (till I get this mind-controlling immortality serum right). So I hope there's a Star look-alike who is as witty, smart and talented as Jr. Sigh... But at least we'll get some great Avengers action.
I really doubt he's going to be in IM4 though. I hope he will but I expect the opposite.
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Maybe I'm off base, but I took that to mean that there wouldn't be an Iron Man 4.
If he's going to be in Avengers 2 and 3, that means no Iron Man in between (unless they switched actors and then back again, which is too absurd to actually assume). That seems odd since he is the highest grossing Avenger (by a long shot), but probably is for the best in the long run.
Phase 3 will probably shift us toward new heroes, the confirmed one being Ant Man.
Also it has been confirmed that there is no Loki in Avengers 2. Whedon also said at one point that Thanos was being saved for the third film for the most part, so it will be really interesting to see who the villain is.
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Maybe I'm off base, but I took that to mean that there wouldn't be an Iron Man 4.
If he's going to be in Avengers 2 and 3, that means no Iron Man in between (unless they switched actors and then back again, which is too absurd to actually assume). That seems odd since he is the highest grossing Avenger (by a long shot), but probably is for the best in the long run.
Phase 3 will probably shift us toward new heroes, the confirmed one being Ant Man.
Also it has been confirmed that there is no Loki in Avengers 2. Whedon also said at one point that Thanos was being saved for the third film for the most part, so it will be really interesting to see who the villain is.
I think it was confirmed that there would only be 3 Iron Man films, that's why the credits were the way they were.
I would quite like to see a Warmachine spin off from Iron Man, the only problem really is popularity. I mean we've had 3 films with Iron Man and we've seen the Warmachine and *sigh* the Iron Patriot... But I mean, Rhodey would be great having his own film then maybe being approached by Tony to join the Avengers, that would be pretty cool.
Ant Man I think will be cool, I wonder if they will also introduce Ultron? If they do Ultron might be a villain for Avengers 2. Did anyone read Age of Ultron in the comic? If Marvel took aspects of that it might make a good film (obviously having to exclude the X-Men in it - even though we all want to see Wolverine in the Avengers).
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Being a Thor fan (he's my favorite superhero) I'm obviously biased in this debate, but Thor is a god who, as zepp pointed out, was created to be the best, and I like to believe that's true. HOWEVER, just because he is the best doesn't mean that he is the strongest. Hulk probably is the strongest because of the fact that his strength can just keep growing, but along with getting stronger the angrier he gets, he also gets even more reckless which would lead to him being more vulnerable to weaker characters taking him out.
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Maybe I'm off base, but I took that to mean that there wouldn't be an Iron Man 4.
If he's going to be in Avengers 2 and 3, that means no Iron Man in between (unless they switched actors and then back again, which is too absurd to actually assume). That seems odd since he is the highest grossing Avenger (by a long shot), but probably is for the best in the long run.
Phase 3 will probably shift us toward new heroes, the confirmed one being Ant Man.
Also it has been confirmed that there is no Loki in Avengers 2. Whedon also said at one point that Thanos was being saved for the third film for the most part, so it will be really interesting to see who the villain is.
I think it was confirmed that there would only be 3 Iron Man films, that's why the credits were the way they were.
I would quite like to see a Warmachine spin off from Iron Man, the only problem really is popularity. I mean we've had 3 films with Iron Man and we've seen the Warmachine and *sigh* the Iron Patriot... But I mean, Rhodey would be great having his own film then maybe being approached by Tony to join the Avengers, that would be pretty cool.
Ant Man I think will be cool, I wonder if they will also introduce Ultron? If they do Ultron might be a villain for Avengers 2. Did anyone read Age of Ultron in the comic? If Marvel took aspects of that it might make a good film (obviously having to exclude the X-Men in it - even though we all want to see Wolverine in the Avengers).
Yes, though Avengers 2 comes out before Ant-Man.
Being a Thor fan (he's my favorite superhero) I'm obviously biased in this debate, but Thor is a god who, as zepp pointed out, was created to be the best, and I like to believe that's true. HOWEVER, just because he is the best doesn't mean that he is the strongest. Hulk probably is the strongest because of the fact that his strength can just keep growing, but along with getting stronger the angrier he gets, he also gets even more reckless which would lead to him being more vulnerable to weaker characters taking him out.
Yeah, I think it's "stronger" vs. "more powerful".
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Maybe I'm off base, but I took that to mean that there wouldn't be an Iron Man 4.
If he's going to be in Avengers 2 and 3, that means no Iron Man in between (unless they switched actors and then back again, which is too absurd to actually assume). That seems odd since he is the highest grossing Avenger (by a long shot), but probably is for the best in the long run.
Phase 3 will probably shift us toward new heroes, the confirmed one being Ant Man.
Also it has been confirmed that there is no Loki in Avengers 2. Whedon also said at one point that Thanos was being saved for the third film for the most part, so it will be really interesting to see who the villain is.
I think it was confirmed that there would only be 3 Iron Man films, that's why the credits were the way they were.
I would quite like to see a Warmachine spin off from Iron Man, the only problem really is popularity. I mean we've had 3 films with Iron Man and we've seen the Warmachine and *sigh* the Iron Patriot... But I mean, Rhodey would be great having his own film then maybe being approached by Tony to join the Avengers, that would be pretty cool.
Ant Man I think will be cool, I wonder if they will also introduce Ultron? If they do Ultron might be a villain for Avengers 2. Did anyone read Age of Ultron in the comic? If Marvel took aspects of that it might make a good film (obviously having to exclude the X-Men in it - even though we all want to see Wolverine in the Avengers).
Yes, though Avengers 2 comes out before Ant-Man.
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Ahh, I thought Ant-Man was due for release in 2014, think I'm getting mixed up with Guardians of the Galaxy
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I think it was confirmed that there would only be 3 Iron Man films, that's why the credits were the way they were.
Nope, no such confirmation. Obviously, there hasn't been announcement that there WILL be an IM4, but there just has certainly been no announcement that there will never be one.
I would quite like to see a Warmachine spin off from Iron Man, the only problem really is popularity. I mean we've had 3 films with Iron Man and we've seen the Warmachine and *sigh* the Iron Patriot... But I mean, Rhodey would be great having his own film then maybe being approached by Tony to join the Avengers, that would be pretty cool.
I find it highly unlikely that there will ever be a Rhodey solo film, but I wouldn't mind seeing him in an Avengers film.
we all want to see Wolverine in the Avengers
No we don't.
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I agree with everything hefdaddy just said.
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I agree with everything bosk1 just said.
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And I likewise agree with-- :splode:
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Nope, no such confirmation. Obviously, there hasn't been announcement that there WILL be an IM4, but there just has certainly been no announcement that there will never be one.
I find it highly unlikely that there will ever be a Rhodey solo film, but I wouldn't mind seeing him in an Avengers film.
No we don't.
It might have been that RDJ wouldn't be in it, however if he's signed on for the Avengers then he might sign on for IM4...
You don't want Wolvie in the Avengers? Aww, well, that sucks.
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I'm not really a fan of the X-Men at all so no, please don't involve them in the Avengers movies.
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I love the X-Men, but I don't care much to see Wolverine in the Avengers, especially the Hugh Jackman version.
Spidey on the other hand, that I would love to see.
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I love the X-Men, but I don't care much to see Wolverine in the Avengers, especially the Hugh Jackman version.
Spidey on the other hand, that I would love to see.
I think they have actually made the current Spidey pretty similar to the comicbook version.
I'm a fan of seeing the X-Men and Marvel Universe come together to be honest. Although apparently Quicksilver and The Scarlet Witch are said to be Avengers 2, wonder how that is going to work out on the big screen, as they're children of Magneto (who they're not allowed to reference) it's gonna be a bit of a strange one.
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I love the X-Men, but I don't care much to see Wolverine in the Avengers, especially the Hugh Jackman version.
Spidey on the other hand, that I would love to see.
I think they have actually made the current Spidey pretty similar to the comicbook version.
I'm a fan of seeing the X-Men and Marvel Universe come together to be honest. Although apparently Quicksilver and The Scarlet Witch are said to be Avengers 2, wonder how that is going to work out on the big screen, as they're children of Magneto (who they're not allowed to reference) it's gonna be a bit of a strange one.
Yes, but there's no reason they have to get into that aspect of the characters' origins.
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I think they have actually made the current Spidey pretty similar to the comicbook version.
I'm a fan of seeing the X-Men and Marvel Universe come together to be honest. Although apparently Quicksilver and The Scarlet Witch are said to be Avengers 2, wonder how that is going to work out on the big screen, as they're children of Magneto (who they're not allowed to reference) it's gonna be a bit of a strange one.
Yes, but there's no reason they have to get into that aspect of the characters' origins.
True, shame though really! I'm just one of those people who can't see it another way, if you know what I mean. I hate things done wrong (see: Wolverine Origins).
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I love the X-Men, but I don't care much to see Wolverine in the Avengers, especially the Hugh Jackman version.
Spidey on the other hand, that I would love to see.
I think they have actually made the current Spidey pretty similar to the comicbook version.
I'm a fan of seeing the X-Men and Marvel Universe come together to be honest. Although apparently Quicksilver and The Scarlet Witch are said to be Avengers 2, wonder how that is going to work out on the big screen, as they're children of Magneto (who they're not allowed to reference) it's gonna be a bit of a strange one.
Yes, but there's no reason they have to get into that aspect of the characters' origins.
Not only do they not have to, they can't.
Now we're stuck with two Quicksilvers.
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Not only do they not have to, they can't.
Now we're stuck with two Quicksilvers.
But how though? I mean, who owns the character rights? Surely if Marvel own the character rights Fox can't use them and visa-versa
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I love the X-Men, but I don't care much to see Wolverine in the Avengers, especially the Hugh Jackman version.
Spidey on the other hand, that I would love to see.
I think they have actually made the current Spidey pretty similar to the comicbook version.
I'm a fan of seeing the X-Men and Marvel Universe come together to be honest. Although apparently Quicksilver and The Scarlet Witch are said to be Avengers 2, wonder how that is going to work out on the big screen, as they're children of Magneto (who they're not allowed to reference) it's gonna be a bit of a strange one.
Yes, but there's no reason they have to get into that aspect of the characters' origins.
Not only do they not have to, they can't.
Thank you for that update, Captain Obvious. Aside from the legal issue of them not being able to get into that, I'm just saying that as a practical matter, they can tell a good story with those characters without having to get into that. There isn't a need, from a storytelling standpoint, to do that.
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I love the X-Men, but I don't care much to see Wolverine in the Avengers, especially the Hugh Jackman version.
Spidey on the other hand, that I would love to see.
I think they have actually made the current Spidey pretty similar to the comicbook version.
I'm a fan of seeing the X-Men and Marvel Universe come together to be honest. Although apparently Quicksilver and The Scarlet Witch are said to be Avengers 2, wonder how that is going to work out on the big screen, as they're children of Magneto (who they're not allowed to reference) it's gonna be a bit of a strange one.
Yes, but there's no reason they have to get into that aspect of the characters' origins.
Not only do they not have to, they can't.
Thank you for that update, Captain Obvious.
Clearly not everyone here knew that. :chill
Not only do they not have to, they can't.
Now we're stuck with two Quicksilvers.
But how though? I mean, who owns the character rights? Surely if Marvel own the character rights Fox can't use them and visa-versa
Both studios own some rights to Quicksilver and the Scarlett Witch. X-Men films can't mention the Avengers in any way, and the Avengers film can't mention their heritage or the fact that they are mutants. Apparently the X-Men films can call them Quicksilver and the Scarlett Witch, while the Avengers films can call them Pietro and Wanda.
Both characters are confirmed for Avengers 2. Quicksilver is confirmed for both Avengers 2 and X-Men: Days of Future Past. Different actors, different stories.
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Both Marvel and Fox have been fairly forthright about this. The rights to these characters in particular (Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch) belong to both camps in part. Fox gets them because because they are mutants and the children of Magneto and were charter members of the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants (but cannot make reference to them being Avengers, or heroes of any kind, if memory serves), but Marvel gets them because they are LONG time members of the Avengers (but cannot make reference to them being mutants or to Magneto).
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https://social.entertainment.msn.com/movies/blogs/post--did-stan-lee-just-confirm-the-black-panther-movie
Dr Strange and Black Panther movies in the future?
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https://social.entertainment.msn.com/movies/blogs/post--did-stan-lee-just-confirm-the-black-panther-movie
Dr Strange and Black Panther movies in the future?
Per the article, Dr. Strange is "all-but-greenlit" at this point. Black Panther is a surprise, though. Interesting.
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Both have been rumored for quite a while, but Kevin Feige has really talked up Dr. Strange over the last few years. It's a matter of when, not if.
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The first film to be released in the Marvel Cinematic Universe was Iron Man (2008), followed by The Incredible Hulk (2008), Iron Man 2 (2010), Thor (2011), Captain America: The First Avenger (2011), Marvel's The Avengers (2012), and Iron Man 3 (2013). Five additional films are in various stages of development as of May 2013[update]: Thor: The Dark World (2013) is in post-production, Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014) is filming, Guardians of the Galaxy (2014) and The Avengers 2 (2015) are in pre-production, and Ant-Man (2015) is in the early stages of development. Three untitled films are slated for release in 2016 and 2017.
Dr Strange, Black Panther and ?
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Could be Thor 3, Cap 3, or another new character.
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Personally, I don't really care for any of the minor characters. If it isn't a direct Avengers tie-in, I probably won't bother seeing it.
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Personally, I don't really care for any of the minor characters. If it isn't a direct Avengers tie-in, I probably won't bother seeing it.
Black Panther would be an Avengers tie-in.
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If he's going to be an Avengers character, I suppose. But if he's not, I could do without. I feel like all these minor character movies are just diluting. I don't care about Black Panther, or Ant Man, or Dr. Strange, and have no intention of seeing them. If they are shoehorned into Avengers, I will grudgingly do so. But I really hope they don't try to tie them in.
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If he's going to be an Avengers character, I suppose. But if he's not, I could do without. I feel like all these minor character movies are just diluting. I don't care about Black Panther, or Ant Man, or Dr. Strange, and have no intention of seeing them. If they are shoehorned into Avengers, I will grudgingly do so. But I really hope they don't try to tie them in.
Ant Man is an original member and Black Panther has been a character since the 1960's
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Avengers_members
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I don't care about Black Panther, or Ant Man, or Dr. Strange
:-[
In my honest opinion, some of the 'minor' Avengers are more interesting characters than the 'major' Avengers.
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I don't care about Black Panther, or Ant Man, or Dr. Strange
:-[
In my honest opinion, some of the 'minor' Avengers are more interesting characters than the 'major' Avengers.
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So. I've seen Thor, Iron Man 1&2 and The Avengers.
Is it explained how the humans get hold of the tesseract at the start of The Avengers ( assemble ) ??
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They find it in the Captain America movie. Red Skull had it, but lost it at the end.
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OK ! Maybe I should watch that oen then ! :)
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If he's going to be an Avengers character, I suppose. But if he's not, I could do without. I feel like all these minor character movies are just diluting. I don't care about Black Panther, or Ant Man, or Dr. Strange, and have no intention of seeing them. If they are shoehorned into Avengers, I will grudgingly do so. But I really hope they don't try to tie them in.
Ant Man is an original member and Black Panther has been a character since the 1960's
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Avengers_members
This bosky. No shoehorning required.
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If he's going to be an Avengers character, I suppose. But if he's not, I could do without. I feel like all these minor character movies are just diluting. I don't care about Black Panther, or Ant Man, or Dr. Strange, and have no intention of seeing them. If they are shoehorned into Avengers, I will grudgingly do so. But I really hope they don't try to tie them in.
Ant Man is an original member and Black Panther has been a character since the 1960's
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Avengers_members
This bosky. No shoehorning required.
Bosk says he's only seeing Marvel movies that are direct Avengers tie-ins. Obviously Ant-Man was always an Avenger, but serious question (since I haven't really been following the news): is Marvel planning to release any films in the near future that won't be tie-ins to the Avengers in some way?
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Guardians of the Galaxy looks like it will only be tangentially tied to Avengers.
We know nothing of Ant-Man but it's a good guess it will, but I wonder... will it include all the domestic abuse Hank Pym has in the early comics?? :lol
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Only interested in Ant-Man as Edgar Wright is directing.
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OK ! Maybe I should watch that oen then ! :)
Yeah, to fully understand all the events and things that are said and the characters in the Avengers I'd say you should see the five movies leading up to it.
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Yeah, I don't mind minor characters, I just find Ant-Man, Black Panther, and Dr. Strange to be really lame.
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Guardians of the Galaxy looks like it will only be tangentially tied to Avengers.
Even if the Guardians themselves don't show up in the Avengers 2/3, I believe Thanos is supposed to be the antagonist in that film, who will play an important role in Avengers 2/3. So it's relevant in that way, at the very least.
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Just watched Captain America. It wasn't great.
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Yeah, it was a bit underwhelming. I didn't dislike it particularly, but it was just kinda there: This is how Cap is born and brought into the new world. Noice. I'm much more excited for the second one though, I think it'll have that superhero vibe but expand on the lore of Cap's nemeses. Never was a fan of Hugo Weaving. Like, at all. In fact, I've just realized I hate his presence most of the time.
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Yeah, it was a bit underwhelming. I didn't dislike it particularly, but it was just kinda there: This is how Cap is born and brought into the new world. Noice. I'm much more excited for the second one though, I think it'll have that superhero vibe but expand on the lore of Cap's nemeses. Never was a fan of Hugo Weaving. Like, at all. In fact, I've just realized I hate his presence most of the time.
It's the eyebrows isn't it?
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Hugo Weaving is awesome, but not even he could save Cap'n America from being thoroughly mediocre.
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I really liked Cap. I find it hard to enjoy Hugo Weaving though because despite being a talented actor, he is such a douche in real life.
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Hugo Weaving is awesome, but not even he could save Cap'n America from being thoroughly mediocre.
I said pretty much this exact thing on twitter.
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I really liked Cap. I find it hard to enjoy Hugo Weaving though because despite being a talented actor, he is such a douche in real life.
Example ?
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I really liked Cap. I find it hard to enjoy Hugo Weaving though because despite being a talented actor, he is such a douche in real life.
Example ?
I can think of one. He said that his voice work as Megatron in the Transformers movies was meaningless. That's a tad douchey.
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I simply do not like his style of acting. To me, he is the epitome of the overused (yet often true) saying of "actor playing the same role over and over". I mean, people like Depp, who is still very samey in his roles, don't even touch Weaving in that regard in my opinion (though I still enjoy many of Depp's roles). He is just literally the same exact fucking character in every single god damn movie. THE EXACT SAME. I dunno; perspective is everything. But from my eyes, that guy has abso-fucking-lutely no talent and has simply found a very comfortable spot in his acting and has rode that wave since The Matrix.
I have no comment about his eyebrows since mine are very prominent as well. Fucking eyebrows. You look weird with them prominent, you look even weirder without them. Fuck those caterpillars.
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I disagree somewhat; I don't think his LOTR role was anything like his Matrix role.
And I don't get the thinking that CA was a mediocre film. It was loads of fun, a real throwback, and a large nod to Raiders of the Lost Ark. Not anything at all like most "superhero" films, and intentionally so. And from what I understand, the sequel won't be a typical "superhero" film either, but rather more like a crime/espionage thriller.
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I really liked Cap. I find it hard to enjoy Hugo Weaving though because despite being a talented actor, he is such a douche in real life.
Example ?
I can think of one. He said that his voice work as Megatron in the Transformers movies was meaningless. That's a tad douchey.
That's pretty much it. It takes a lot of douchiness to make me side with Michael Bay in an argument, but that did it. I want to say he did the same thing with another one of his roles but I might be remembering it wrong.
I disagree somewhat; I don't think his LOTR role was anything like his Matrix role.
And I don't get the thinking that CA was a mediocre film. It was loads of fun, a real throwback, and a large nod to Raiders of the Lost Ark. Not anything at all like most "superhero" films, and intentionally so. And from what I understand, the sequel won't be a typical "superhero" film either, but rather more like a crime/espionage thriller.
:tup
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I really liked Cap. I find it hard to enjoy Hugo Weaving though because despite being a talented actor, he is such a douche in real life.
Example ?
I can think of one. He said that his voice work as Megatron in the Transformers movies was meaningless. That's a tad douchey.
This would bother me if it was anything other than one of the Transformers movies.
Also, Weaving was pretty damn great in Cloud Atlas. I don't like his Elrond, but that was more because I don't think he was right for the part. He didn't look or manage to sound especially Elvish and, yeah, at some points he did kind of come across as "Mr. Smith Goes To Middle-Earth."
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I completely forgot he was in Cloud Atlas; that's one role I really loved him in. I have to rewatch that movie again someday, it's just so much to take in..
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I really liked Cap. I find it hard to enjoy Hugo Weaving though because despite being a talented actor, he is such a douche in real life.
Example ?
I can think of one. He said that his voice work as Megatron in the Transformers movies was meaningless. That's a tad douchey.
This would bother me if it was anything other than one of the Transformers movies.
Also, Weaving was pretty damn great in Cloud Atlas. I don't like his Elrond, but that was more because I don't think he was right for the part. He didn't look or manage to sound especially Elvish and, yeah, at some points he did kind of come across as "Mr. Smith Goes To Middle-Earth."
Nah. Respect what you're a part of. This was the third movie, it's not like he was getting tricked into thinking he was in an Oscar film or something like that. Plus, as Bay said, he basically got paid a couple million to do a few hours of work in a studio, then publicly complained about it. That's pretty low.
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If he's going to be an Avengers character, I suppose. But if he's not, I could do without. I feel like all these minor character movies are just diluting. I don't care about Black Panther, or Ant Man, or Dr. Strange, and have no intention of seeing them. If they are shoehorned into Avengers, I will grudgingly do so. But I really hope they don't try to tie them in.
Ant Man is an original member and Black Panther has been a character since the 1960's
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Avengers_members
This bosky. No shoehorning required.
Okay, bad word choice on my part. But, I mean, similar arguments can be made about half the heroes (and a handful of villains) in the Marvel Universe. Everybody has been an Avenger at some point in time. I just mean that I find little enjoyment in adding character after character after character, whether they were members of the Marvel comics Avengers or not. I have no interest in many of the characters that have been on the team. But even beyond that, I feel that the Marvel universe of the Avengers-related films has done a decent job at showing some restraint in terms of not having tons of heroes. Continuing to expand just feels silly and unnecessary. Yeah, I get that Ant Man and Black Panther are both older "classic" characters. But so what? That doesn't mean they are good characters, or that, even if they are good ones, that they are necessary in the the Marvel universe of the Avengers-related films. Should we also bring back Wasp, Hercules, Swordsman, and Black Knight just because they also are pre-'70s Avengers?
And I don't get the thinking that CA was a mediocre film. It was loads of fun, a real throwback, and a large nod to Raiders of the Lost Ark. Not anything at all like most "superhero" films, and intentionally so. And from what I understand, the sequel won't be a typical "superhero" film either, but rather more like a crime/espionage thriller.
I agree. I thought it was great.
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Should we also bring back Wasp, Hercules, Swordsman, and Black Knight just because they also are pre-'70s Avengers?
The Wasp, for sure. The rest can go.
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:lol Okay, fair enough. I just know that for me, I prefer characters that are interesting and are more fun to watch than, say, trying to surgically remove my own gums with rusty razor blades.
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Just saying, Ant Man is frackin awesome :yarr
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If they're doing Ant-Man, Wasp HAS to be in it, doesn't she?
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If they're doing Ant-Man, Wasp HAS to be in it, doesn't she?
I hereby declare it to be so.
But in all actuality, not really.
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They should just get one of the dudes from Stryper to play Wasp. No additional wardrobe needed.
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Still waiting for that She-Hulk movie over here....but that d´be rated XXX.
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Captain America has a really odd abrupt ending too. :lol
" You've been asleep for 70 years. "
" I had a date "
THE END.
;D
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Still waiting for that She-Hulk movie over here....but that d´be rated XXX.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2332811/
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(https://puu.sh/3If3r.jpg)
So I guess this is a sort of confirmation that Ant-Man is tied to Avengers and will probably appear in the second one.
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As much as I love Ultron (and The Vision who it seems likely will be played by Vin Diesel), I just do not see any way to successfully tell the Ultron story in one movie. I have a feeling that it will reduce Ultron to "big evil robot blows up lots of stuff and has to get blown up at the end" with The Vision turning about half way trough the movie.
I dunno. I'm really hoping Marvel stops investing all of their money into blockbusters and more into a format like Game of Thrones where they might actually be able to tell a decent story without reducing it to it's most basic elements and skipping most of the good stuff.
And maybe then the rights issues won't be as bad.
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I thought Ultron was that Megazord looking giant robot. What am I thinking of?
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Here's my ranking of the Avengers movies i've seen so far :
1. The Avengers. One of the best superhero films i've seen in a very long time. Just pure entertainment.
2. Iron Man - reminds me of when blockbusters were full of fun - such as Joe Johnston's The Rocketeer.
3. Thor - Not a home run but still decent.
4. Iron Man 2 - A massive step down in quality from the first film IMO. Barely any plot and a reliance on set-pieces.
5. Captain America. - takes ages to get going and doesn't really get into first gear for me.
6. The Incredible Hulk - The Ed Norton film. - Hulk will never look good on screen. Not even in The Avengers. But this film is just poor.
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I though Hulk looked pretty damn good in The Avengers. Captain America was cool, and way better than Iron Man 2.
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Avengers was the best he's looked on screen but in the end - you're still dealing with an enormous green CGI monster.
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Better an enormous CGI monster than a guy running around in green make up.
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Rankings are fun.
1. Thor
2. Captain America
3. The Avengers
4. Iron Man
5. The Incredible Hulk
6. Iron Man 3
7. Iron Man 2
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I thought Ultron was that Megazord looking giant robot. What am I thinking of?
X-Men's Sentinels is what you're thinking of.
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I thought Ultron was that Megazord looking giant robot. What am I thinking of?
X-Men's Sentinels is what you're thinking of.
No no no, the thing I'm thinking of is like a gundam mixed with a megazord and it was a popular Japanese toy/show or something.
I know what sentinels look like.
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Ultraman?
(https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/1/16715/3162836-0250373901-Ultra.jpg)
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Galactus? That description you gave now makes me have no idea.
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I believe I'm thinking of this thing:
(https://i39.tinypic.com/jjkwmw.jpg)
or this:
(https://i41.tinypic.com/2ef850w.jpg)
Carry on.
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Those are Shogun Warriors.
You are thinking of Voltron.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ylai2RE9EM0
Let the nerds begin the hate.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ylai2RE9EM0
Let the nerds begin the hate.
The only bad thing he said was that Hank Pym will have nothing to do with Ultron. That seems odd, but it isn't such a huge deal as I doubt we'll get deep enough into either Ultron or Hank Pym for their true relationship to ever matter much. So for the movies, that's fine.
My only complaint about all of these Marvel movies is that they seem to want to largely (not solely) focus on classic comics from the 60's-80's. I think modern story lines are a million times better and am not sure why they keep away from them so much.
Also, one of my big complaints against the marvel movies is that in the comics books, it has been a world where superheroes are an accepted and normal part of it. The movies won't ever get to that though, even after the last Avengers. We'll never get a world where we can run into a bunch of big heroes without having to go into an origin's story to explain why they are there.
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So, off of The Avengers for a moment....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=JNSK0647wJI
Foxx is gonna be awesome.
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Oh, and again... off The Avengers, and on to Days of Future Past.
(https://www.cinemablend.com/images/news/38584/_1374215734.jpg)
(https://www.cinemablend.com/images/news/38584/_1374215753.jpg)
(https://www.cinemablend.com/images/news/38584/_1374215740.jpg)
(https://cdn.bleedingcool.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/x-men-days-of-future-past-wolverine-2.jpg?f6a06b)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ylai2RE9EM0
Let the nerds begin the hate.
The only bad thing he said was that Hank Pym will have nothing to do with Ultron. That seems odd, but it isn't such a huge deal as I doubt we'll get deep enough into either Ultron or Hank Pym for their true relationship to ever matter much. So for the movies, that's fine.
My only complaint about all of these Marvel movies is that they seem to want to largely (not solely) focus on classic comics from the 60's-80's. I think modern story lines are a million times better and am not sure why they keep away from them so much.
Also, one of my big complaints against the marvel movies is that in the comics books, it has been a world where superheroes are an accepted and normal part of it. The movies won't ever get to that though, even after the last Avengers. We'll never get a world where we can run into a bunch of big heroes without having to go into an origin's story to explain why they are there.
It does seem odd to have Ultron and Hank Pym exist in the universe and have films involving them but not connect the dots.
I have to disagree on the second point however. The arc "Age of Ultron" is extremely recent in comic book time, and whether they actually use that arc or not, they are clearly acknowledging it. Also, the Winter Soldier is very recent as far as comic book villains are concerned.
On a side note, for a while people thought Iron Man might be involved in the Guardians of the Galaxy, and that union almost literally just took place in the comics.
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Joss confirmed that they're not using the modern Age of Ultron, but they're doing their own version of his origin story.
And I said mostly. Winter Soldier, sure.
As far as Tony Stark joining The Guardians....IF that happens, it's because a decent amount of Marvel Now is being written to accommodate the films. The new black "Nick Fury", the new Chiutary or however you spelled, it etc. As soon as they decided to do a new Guardians movie, they launched a whole new comic line with origin stories and all, same with Thanos. So if the movies bare resemblance to the comics, it's not because they are taking inspiration from them, it's because those comics are being written around the movies.
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I'm positive Iron Man won't join the Guardians in the film world, but good points nonetheless.
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Joss confirmed that they're not using the modern Age of Ultron, but they're doing their own version of his origin story.
And I said mostly. Winter Soldier, sure.
As far as Tony Stark joining The Guardians....IF that happens, it's because a decent amount of Marvel Now is being written to accommodate the films. The new black "Nick Fury", the new Chiutary or however you spelled, it etc. As soon as they decided to do a new Guardians movie, they launched a whole new comic line with origin stories and all, same with Thanos. So if the movies bare resemblance to the comics, it's not because they are taking inspiration from them, it's because those comics are being written around the movies.
Black Nick Fury started in the (Ultimate universe) comics.
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Damn, Xavier and Magneto look awesome in those armor type clothes there.
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Yeah, Xavier looks especially badass.
Also it looks like Patrick Stewart is finally starting to age a bit.
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Also it looks like Patrick Stewart is finally starting to age a bit.
Nah, that's makeup.
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:lol :lol :lol :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
Holy fucking hell that's got me in stitches because I can honestly, truly see that happening.
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Those are Shogun Warriors.
You are thinking of Voltron.
Thanks hefdaddy for the facts!
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:tup
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New Thor Trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npvJ9FTgZbM&utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=AcquisitionEmail&utm_content=080713MainImage&utm_campaign=ThorTDWTrailerPremiere)
Me likey. Doesn't give away too much more, but a few new snippits.
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Yeah, like it as well....´anyone else´? ;D
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Yeah, Loki is definitely my favorite part of these Thor movies! I just love how Tom Hiddleston plays him.
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Awesome trailer. It's shaping up to be even better than the first.
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Yeah, good trailer. Looking forward to this one.
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Wolverine was pretty cool. Japanese love interest = hnnnnnnnnnng
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James Spader cast as Ultron
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James Spader cast as Ultron
Yeah, I saw that earlier. Very interesting.
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James Spader cast as Ultron
Yeah, I saw that earlier. Very interesting.
LOVE Spader!! Kewl
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Imagine Ultron with word salad. The Avengers would need to get Denny Crane to shoot him.
Greetings...
Nef
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Yeah that probably killed the rumor about Ultron being a corrupted Jarvis.
Cool news though. Brat pack reunion!
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Watched Iron Man yesterday. Hadn't seen it in years. Still awesome.
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Spader as Ultron is fuckin' spectacular, I can't wait to see how he plays it.
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I thought the Wolverine was rather injoyable as well. Famke Janssen is always nice... :blush
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Anyone watching Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.? Thoughts? I only just got around to watching the pilot. I recorded ep. 2, but haven't watched yet. I thought the pilot was decent. There was a lot of cheese, but I expected that. Marvel movies have a certain amount of cheese as it is, and I expected the cheese factor to be amped up a notch given that we are now in primetime TV land.
The explanation for Colson being back was short and to-the-point, and given how it was strongly hinted at in Avengers that he wasn't dead, I was fine with it. It's kind of cool seeing his character act very differently when he is the senior agent on site. It certainly brings out a different aspect of his character. It may seem inconsistent to some, but it's actually very constent with government bureaucracy for junior leaders to be very assertive when they are the senior person on-site, but completely back off and subjugate themselves in the presence of superiors.
I quite liked the "This is an origins story" quote. Well done. But that's all I'll say about that outside of a "spoiler alert" tag. Speaking of which:
***SPOILER ALERT! DO NOT READ BELOW IF YOU DO NOT WANT SPOILERS TO BE REVEALED***
A few thoughts:
So, it looks like they are definitely setting up the next Avengers film with the origins of who I believe is Black Panther. Why we need B-tier heroes that most people haven't heard of and/or don't care about is a little bit of a letdown, but it seems like they are doing a decent enough job of making him interesting. He's got a good backstory already, and I guess they developed it pretty well for a 1-hour pilot that had a lot of other stuff going on.
I'm not familiar with Skye, but I haven't read a Marvel comic in a LONG time. Is she a comic character, or is she somebody new? Same with Melinda May. It seemed to be hinted at that she is well-known. Is she an existing comic character as well?
Nice tie-in with Iron Man III. It seemed just a bit forced, but at the same time, it provided another layer of continuity with the films that I thought was nice.
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I feel like I'll be in the minority, but I thought Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. was really bad. Thought it had terrible dialogue and was beyond all cheesy.
I might give it another chance if my roommate gets to the tv before I can get hockey on.
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Yeah, I can see that. But I think at least some of how people react to the cheese factor will depend on how they react to super hero movies in general. If the cheese factor in super hero movies in general is at all an issue for you, you will likely find it to be unbearable in this series.
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I don't know, I tend to enjoy Marvel movies a ton, I just don't feel like it translates well to tv, especially since it's not their big hitter super heroes.
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I'm still pensive regarding the show. I've watched both episodes so far, but I really don't know what to think just yet, I need more episodes to make up my mind.
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I really thoroughly enjoyed the first episode of Agents of SHIELD. Yeah it was slightly cheesy, but knowingly so - it had it's tongue very firmly in its cheek and wasn't afraid to make fun of cliches. I found that aspect of it really entertaining.
As for the setting up of plot etc. I thought they did a nice job. Nothing mind blowing but it's only the first episode, but I think it showed tremendous promise.
And I agree with bosky, I don't see the show as being any cheesier than the movies; in fact I think the tone is exactly in keeping with the films.
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Yeah I love the films but I haven't been able to really enjoy the show yet, and I've been trying. There is the cheese factor, which on its own doesn't kill the show, but it doesn't feel like the films at all.
What is really telling is that I feel the show itself doesn't feel it is good enough to stand on its own two feet. In the three episodes I have seen, there were already countless references to the characters and objects from the films. It really hinges on the viewer not only knowing about them, but having those things hold their interest while they watch the less important main characters of the show go about their business. Unfortunately, without those links to the films, there is nothing really special or unique about the show at all.
That said, I wouldn't mind seeing this team make a cameo appearance in one of the films.
Coulson's revival: do you think we'll ever get a real explanation? Maria Hill's dialogue when Coulson left the room implied that Couson does not know the whole story about why he is alive, and that "he can never know". So I imagine there is some foul play involved somewhere. What if the Avengers found out he was alive? Wouldn't they be royally pissed?
And to answer your question, bosk, none of the characters from the show are from the comics except for Maria Hill and Nick Fury, who are only in one episode a piece as cameos (so far).
Also, in film news, just playing some catch up:
Guardians of the Galaxy - very interesting cast. Vin Diesel as Groot and Bradley Cooper as Rocket Raccoon.
Avengers Age of Ultron - Elizabeth Olsen (younger sis of Mary Kate and Ashley) is the Scarlet Witch
Ant Man - frontrunners are Joseph Gordon Levitt and PAUL RUDD. Rudd would be amazing.
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bosky, as for your spoiler post - I don't think any of what you posted is accurate. Although I see that you have a line through it.
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coulson def died and this guy is a robot replica or whatever the name is. they keep hinting at it and won't seem to want to explain it. probably saving it up for the movies.
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bosky, as for your spoiler post - I don't think any of what you posted is accurate. Although I see that you have a line through it.
Which part isn't accurate? ???
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The Black Panther. He hasn't been alluded to so far, nor does it looks like he will be in Avengers: Age of Ultron.
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??? He was in the pilot.
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What? No he wasn't.
...was he? Where?
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??? He was in the pilot.
??? ???
What are you talking about? There was certainly a black character in the pilot, but he was just as certainly NOT the Black Panther.
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Just because a black guy with powers appeared that doesn't mean it's the Black Panther. That guy most certainly wasn't him!
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Then why when there was a "who is that guy?" line did the camera zoom in on his son's shirt, and the shirt had a big picture of a black panther on the front of it? If that's not supposed to be a hint as to who he is, I'm not sure what it is suppoed to be.
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They state in the pilot that he was just some guy who got powers through the Extremis virus. Mike Peterson I think his name was, a far cry from T'Challa.
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They state in the pilot that he was just some guy who got powers through the Extremis virus.
Yes, but how does that exclude him from being the Black Panther in this Marvel universe? Just because they are making up a new origins story for a particular hero doesn't mean it isn't that hero. That would be like saying Marvel was not intending to truly make a series of "Spiderman" movies with Tobey Maguire because in the movie, he was bitten by a bio-engineered spider rather than a radioactive spider. So clearly, he wasn't Spiderman, right?
Forget about differences between the series and the comic for a minute and just go on what the pilot showed us. There were a few hints dropped that he is supposed to be Black Panther, even if his story and powers differ from those of the comic character. Maybe he's not, and those hints were thrown in there to deliberately mislead, but that just seems like an odd thing to do.
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I'd be majorly disappointed if he were the Black Panther, because even if you're trying to change up the origin a little bit, this would be waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to much.
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It's fine if they want to change some of the things from the origin but to take away that he's a king from an African country would be wrong.
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Yeah, it's one thing to modernize a character, but the whole story of Wakanda and vibranium are incredibly essential to the Black Panther. Making him some American guy named Mike that uses Extremis is so different that I can't imagine why they would bother making them the same character.
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Maybe it was a complete red herring then. :dunno: But the way that scene played out, it just seemed like it was a really blatant statement that "Hey, this guy is Black Panther." I get what you are saying, but I just don't know why they would do the scene that way if that isn't what was intended.
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I didn't even notice the kid's shirt. But it could have been there just as an Easter Egg.
But no way is that guy the Black Panther. Just no way. In fact, you are the only person I have heard who even conceived of such a thing.
I mean, if the kid's shirt was an Air Jordan shirt, would you think that character was playing Michael Jordan?
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I mean, if the kid's shirt was an Air Jordan shirt, would you think that character was playing Michael Jordan?
If (a) Jordan was a Marvel superhero, (b) the camera zoomed directly in on the logo so that it was center screen, and (c) it did so right when it was being asked who he was, then yeah, I probably would.
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Not sure what to tell you. It's just not, in any way, the Black Panther.
And I didn't even notice the zoom-in you're talking about. I will go back and watch it again.
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I didn't notice the shirt either, though that is interesting. I'll have to watch it again on the DVR.
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I'm going to have to watch it again, too, because now you all are making me feel like I made it up. :lol
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I'm going to have to watch it again, too, because now you all are making me feel like I made it up. :lol
It was a bear on the kid's shirt.
The black guy is John Petrucci.
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Come on, nothing?
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As much as I wanted to like it, I have come to the conclusion that Agents of Shield pretty much blows. Not a good show. I am a big fan of all things Marvel, but this is not good.
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I'll agree, it's been a little underwhelming. Jingle.kids are enjoying it, so we'll keep watching.
First trailer for Winter Soldier
https://trailers.apple.com/trailers/marvel/captainamericathewintersoldier/
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The Winter Soldier trailer was doing well until it showed too much.
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Amazing trailer!
Also I can't wait for Thor: The Dark World. It's just around the corner.
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The Winter Soldier trailer was doing well until it showed too much.
Nah, it was a great first trailer.
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It has been confirmed that Thor: The Dark World has two post-credit sequences, so make sure you don't leave the theater too early. There is also an Avenger cameo (kinda) during the film.
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I don't think it showed too much, for one thing the tone that trailer gives it's completely different from what The Winter Soldier is.
Looks like a political war movie, and there was no mentioned or allusion to Bucky.
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Looks like a political war movie, and there was no mentioned or allusion to Bucky.
If there was any mention of that in the trailer, it would not only show too much, it would completely ruin that whole aspect of the movie.
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Which is good they just showed some of him but didn't give no explanation and instead shifted the tone of the trailer to Cap not being all happy with the way SHIELD is running things.
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I thought it was a great trailer. Can't wait, that is the Marvel sequel I've been most excited for.
Although I am certainly looking forward to the Thor sequel as well.
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Days of Future Past trailer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK2zYHWDZKo
Not sure what to think. But with Singer at the helm, it'll surely be better than X3
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Fucking awesome. I can't wait for this!
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Love the emotion this trailer sets up and I am very much looking forward to this movie. First Class was my favorite X-Men movie so far, so I have high hopes for this one.
Editing is a bit poor though when the Thin Red Line music starts...
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Thor: The Dark World was far better than expected.
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Thor: The Dark World was far better than expected.
More excited about this than I was for Iron Man 3. I have higher expectations for it than the first Thor film.
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Still another week before it opens here.
BTW, I read that the aftermath of that film will be dealt with in an upcoming episode of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
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Still another week before it opens here.
BTW, I read that the aftermath of that film will be dealt with in an upcoming episode of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
I just read that on TV.com
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HOnestly, that's the only reason I'm watching the SHIELD show. It haven't been terribly impressed by it, but don't want to miss out on anything related to any of the movies.
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HOnestly, that's the only reason I'm watching the SHIELD show. It haven't been terribly impressed by it, but don't want to miss out on anything related to any of the movies.
I feel that the show is very aware that this is the only reason anyone is watching it. The nods to the films that is. As you said, the show doesn't stand very well on its own two feet.
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I don't know. I think it's OK. It's better than most crap on TV.
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Me too. I especially liked the Black Panther arc. :biggrin:
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Me too. I especially liked the Black Panther arc. :biggrin:
:lol
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Just got back from a marathon at the theater. Thor, The Avengers, then Thor 2.
Holy crap, guys. Holy crap. This was one of the funniest movies I've seen in a long time. No sarcasm - it's intentionally funny. One of the funniest characters is actually Loki. At first I wasn't sure what to think about that, but I like how he was kind of emotionally multi-faceted so you never really know what to expect from him. There is one scene in particular involving him that had the theater roaring so loud no one caught the following few lines. I almost think the movie was too funny, but fuck it, I like to laugh, so I'm not gonna knock it for that.
Everything else was as you'd expect. Jane and Thor reuniting, some fucking awesome action scenes, and just generally a good time. There were a few moments that literally made me drop my jaw. I never do that. Wow, this movie was a ride.
Edit: I don't know anything about science, but I'm pretty sure this movie (especially toward the end) says "fuck science" on several levels. Then again, it's set in a universe protected by a god of thunder overlooking nine different realms.
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I read yesterday that Marvel will produce 4 different original TV series for Netflix (Daredevil, Jessica Jones (I dunno who that is), Iron Fist, and Luke Cage), eventually leading up over several years to a miniseries of The Defenders. All 4 series will be set in Hell's Kitchen, and will apparently be grittier than stuff we've seen on film thus far.
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I'm definitely intrigued by the idea of Daredevil TV series.
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I read yesterday that Marvel will produce 4 different original TV series for Netflix (Daredevil, Jessica Jones (I dunno who that is), Iron Fist, and Luke Cage), eventually leading up over several years to a miniseries of The Defenders. All 4 series will be set in Hell's Kitchen, and will apparently be grittier than stuff we've seen on film thus far.
That I could sink my teeth into
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Just got back from a marathon at the theater. Thor, The Avengers, then Thor 2.
Holy crap, guys. Holy crap. This was one of the funniest movies I've seen in a long time. No sarcasm - it's intentionally funny. One of the funniest characters is actually Loki. At first I wasn't sure what to think about that, but I like how he was kind of emotionally multi-faceted so you never really know what to expect from him. There is one scene in particular involving him that had the theater roaring so loud no one caught the following few lines. I almost think the movie was too funny, but fuck it, I like to laugh, so I'm not gonna knock it for that.
Everything else was as you'd expect. Jane and Thor reuniting, some fucking awesome action scenes, and just generally a good time. There were a few moments that literally made me drop my jaw. I never do that. Wow, this movie was a ride.
Edit: I don't know anything about science, but I'm pretty sure this movie (especially toward the end) says "fuck science" on several levels. Then again, it's set in a universe protected by a god of thunder overlooking nine different realms.
Yes, everything said here is true.
This movie was pretty incredible after a first viewing. Dark, but never for too long. Colorful, funny, lighthearted, and pack to the brim with great action scenes including some impressively well done chases and dog fights.
I only have two real gripes with the film at this time.
1. As you mentioned, the nonsense that happens toward the end. I would have preferred a straight up fight. All the warping got old pretty fast and throughout the film it basically just worked as script magic whenever it was convenient.
2. The scene with the Asgardian in the Dark World, right before he reports back to Odin in Asgard, should have been cut. It's incredibly brief, but the ending of the film would have been a much bigger surprise without it.
That said, this is definitely one of the best Marvel films, and the Avengers cameo is hilarious and fantastic, even though he's not really there.
EDIT: Actually, one further note. I think that the powers of the characters in the films are becoming increasingly ill-defined. That shot we see of Loki in the trailer of him pushing back the furniture in his cell, is this done telepathically? Some sort of magic? Regardless, he never does it again so it was odd to introduce it the way that they did. On the same note, Frigga apparently has the power to create duplicates as well? And since that is true, was her appearance in Loki's cell her duplicate or his?
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Just got back from a marathon at the theater. Thor, The Avengers, then Thor 2.
Holy crap, guys. Holy crap. This was one of the funniest movies I've seen in a long time. No sarcasm - it's intentionally funny. One of the funniest characters is actually Loki. At first I wasn't sure what to think about that, but I like how he was kind of emotionally multi-faceted so you never really know what to expect from him. There is one scene in particular involving him that had the theater roaring so loud no one caught the following few lines. I almost think the movie was too funny, but fuck it, I like to laugh, so I'm not gonna knock it for that.
Everything else was as you'd expect. Jane and Thor reuniting, some fucking awesome action scenes, and just generally a good time. There were a few moments that literally made me drop my jaw. I never do that. Wow, this movie was a ride.
Edit: I don't know anything about science, but I'm pretty sure this movie (especially toward the end) says "fuck science" on several levels. Then again, it's set in a universe protected by a god of thunder overlooking nine different realms.
Yes, everything said here is true.
This movie was pretty incredible after a first viewing. Dark, but never for too long. Colorful, funny, lighthearted, and pack to the brim with great action scenes including some impressively well done chases and dog fights.
I only have two real gripes with the film at this time.
1. As you mentioned, the nonsense that happens toward the end. I would have preferred a straight up fight. All the warping got old pretty fast and throughout the film it basically just worked as script magic whenever it was convenient.
2. The scene with the Asgardian in the Dark World, right before he reports back to Odin in Asgard, should have been cut. It's incredibly brief, but the ending of the film would have been a much bigger surprise without it.
That said, this is definitely one of the best Marvel films, and the Avengers cameo is hilarious and fantastic, even though he's not really there.
EDIT: Actually, one further note. I think that the powers of the characters in the films are becoming increasingly ill-defined. That shot we see of Loki in the trailer of him pushing back the furniture in his cell, is this done telepathically? Some sort of magic? Regardless, he never does it again so it was odd to introduce it the way that they did. On the same note, Frigga apparently has the power to create duplicates as well? And since that is true, was her appearance in Loki's cell her duplicate or his?
As far as Loki, I pulled this from Wikipedia.
Loki is of genius level intelligence and has extensive training in magic, and possesses the ability to manipulate magical forces for a variety of purposes: energy projection, creation of force fields, temporarily increasing his own physical strength, granting superhuman abilities to living beings or inanimate objects, flight, hypnosis, illusion casting, and inter-dimensional teleportation.
As far as Frigga's stuff, I kind of assumed her projections were some sort of Asgardian tech that allowed visitors to safely visit inmates. Then she used it on Jane, I assumed it was just the same system again, being used cleverly to protect her.
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2. The scene with the Asgardian in the Dark World, right before he reports back to Odin in Asgard, should have been cut. It's incredibly brief, but the ending of the film would have been a much bigger surprise without it.
Definetely agree with this.
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Yeah, the final fight with Malekith I could've gone without all those teleportations bit. I hope he somehow survived though, because I feel in a future movie with some proper characterization (not this one-note thing like it was done with Red Skull) he could be a great character and a awesome villain!
Also, that ending with Loki as Odin raises a lot of interesting questions! All in all, I enjoyed it a lot and laughed my ass off when Loki turned into Captain America, I really wasn't expecting that! :lol
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Just got back from a marathon at the theater. Thor, The Avengers, then Thor 2.
Holy crap, guys. Holy crap. This was one of the funniest movies I've seen in a long time. No sarcasm - it's intentionally funny. One of the funniest characters is actually Loki. At first I wasn't sure what to think about that, but I like how he was kind of emotionally multi-faceted so you never really know what to expect from him. There is one scene in particular involving him that had the theater roaring so loud no one caught the following few lines. I almost think the movie was too funny, but fuck it, I like to laugh, so I'm not gonna knock it for that.
Everything else was as you'd expect. Jane and Thor reuniting, some fucking awesome action scenes, and just generally a good time. There were a few moments that literally made me drop my jaw. I never do that. Wow, this movie was a ride.
Edit: I don't know anything about science, but I'm pretty sure this movie (especially toward the end) says "fuck science" on several levels. Then again, it's set in a universe protected by a god of thunder overlooking nine different realms.
Yes, everything said here is true.
This movie was pretty incredible after a first viewing. Dark, but never for too long. Colorful, funny, lighthearted, and pack to the brim with great action scenes including some impressively well done chases and dog fights.
I only have two real gripes with the film at this time.
1. As you mentioned, the nonsense that happens toward the end. I would have preferred a straight up fight. All the warping got old pretty fast and throughout the film it basically just worked as script magic whenever it was convenient.
2. The scene with the Asgardian in the Dark World, right before he reports back to Odin in Asgard, should have been cut. It's incredibly brief, but the ending of the film would have been a much bigger surprise without it.
That said, this is definitely one of the best Marvel films, and the Avengers cameo is hilarious and fantastic, even though he's not really there.
EDIT: Actually, one further note. I think that the powers of the characters in the films are becoming increasingly ill-defined. That shot we see of Loki in the trailer of him pushing back the furniture in his cell, is this done telepathically? Some sort of magic? Regardless, he never does it again so it was odd to introduce it the way that they did. On the same note, Frigga apparently has the power to create duplicates as well? And since that is true, was her appearance in Loki's cell her duplicate or his?
As far as Loki, I pulled this from Wikipedia.
Loki is of genius level intelligence and has extensive training in magic, and possesses the ability to manipulate magical forces for a variety of purposes: energy projection, creation of force fields, temporarily increasing his own physical strength, granting superhuman abilities to living beings or inanimate objects, flight, hypnosis, illusion casting, and inter-dimensional teleportation.
As far as Frigga's stuff, I kind of assumed her projections were some sort of Asgardian tech that allowed visitors to safely visit inmates. Then she used it on Jane, I assumed it was just the same system again, being used cleverly to protect her.
Interesting. Works for me.
Yeah, the final fight with Malekith I could've gone without all those teleportations bit. I hope he somehow survived though, because I feel in a future movie with some proper characterization (not this one-note thing like it was done with Red Skull) he could be a great character and a awesome villain!
Also, that ending with Loki as Odin raises a lot of interesting questions! All in all, I enjoyed it a lot and laughed my ass off when Loki turned into Captain America, I really wasn't expecting that! :lol
Yeah, amazing cameo. He is just as convincing playing a parody of his character as he is playing the character himself. Awesome.
On the other note, it does raise a lot of questions, in a good way. What has become of Odin? What does this mean for the rest of the universe?
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And does he have good intentions or is he back to "I rule and I destroy all!"
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I don't think Loki has every really been interested in just destroying everything. His motivations/desires run deeper than that. He wants a throne, but I think it comes down to a deep desire for respect, even if it is by fear, by any means necessary.
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THOR 2 WAS AMAZING ON EVERY LEVEL CONCEIVABLE.
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I don't think Loki has every really been interested in just destroying everything. His motivations/desires run deeper than that. He wants a throne, but I think it comes down to a deep desire for respect, even if it is by fear, by any means necessary.
I wasn't being literal with that heh
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THOR 2 WAS AMAZING ON EVERY LEVEL CONCEIVABLE.
Too damn right. That second after-credits scene, man.
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Thor 2 was great. It might be my favorite set of Marvel movies, which is funny because it hasn't been received as well as Iron Man or Captain America.
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THOR 2 WAS AMAZING ON EVERY LEVEL CONCEIVABLE.
Too damn right. That second after-credits scene, man.
the after credits scene is like the new 1990's hidden track on the CD.
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Honestly I think Thor now has a better film track record than any other superhero.
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Thor 2 was great. It might be my favorite set of Marvel movies, which is funny because it hasn't been received as well as Iron Man or Captain America.
It's probably second for me. So far none of them beats the first Iron Man. But if Marvel keeps making movies like Thor 2, Iron Man may very well lose it's top position.
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Honestly I think Thor now has a better film track record than any other superhero.
Even Superman & Superman 2 and Batman Begins - The Dark Knight & The Dark Knight Rises ?!
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Thor 2 was great. It might be my favorite set of Marvel movies, which is funny because it hasn't been received as well as Iron Man or Captain America.
But if Marvel keeps making movies like Thor 2, Iron Man may very well lose it's top position.
If Thor 2 is good then it's already better than Iron man since Iron man 2 was a pile of crap.
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I meant "Iron Man" the movie.
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Honestly I think Thor now has a better film track record than any other superhero.
Even Superman & Superman 2 and Batman Begins - The Dark Knight & The Dark Knight Rises ?!
I don't think he was saying that the Thor movies are necessarily the best superhero movies. I took his post to mean that Thor's movies are better on average than any other superhero's movies. For instance, yeah, Batman has the Nolan trilogy going for him, but he also has Arnold Schwarzenegger's punfest on his track record. Thor doesn't really have any stinkers yet.
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Honestly I think Thor now has a better film track record than any other superhero.
Even Superman & Superman 2 and Batman Begins - The Dark Knight & The Dark Knight Rises ?!
I don't think he was saying that the Thor movies are necessarily the best superhero movies. I took his post to mean that Thor's movies are better on average than any other superhero's movies. For instance, yeah, Batman has the Nolan trilogy going for him, but he also has Arnold Schwarzenegger's punfest on his track record. Thor doesn't really have any stinkers yet.
Bingo! Every other superhero seems to have at least one crapfest in their history.
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Have you guys seen the Avengers: Age of Ultron teaser trailer from Comic Con yet? It's very short, but it does give an indication as to who will probably be replacing Hank Pym as Ultron's "da-da."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr5rzSMNmRM
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I thought Whedon pretty much said during SDCC that it was Tony Stark who makes Movie Universe's Ultron.
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I thought Whedon pretty much said during SDCC that it was Tony Stark who makes Movie Universe's Ultron.
All Whedon and Fiege have said so far is that MCU's Ultron isn't going to be made by Hank Pym and that he'll be made by the Avengers we're already familiar with. But yeah, the teaser pretty much spells it out that Tony's going to be the one who makes him (though I could see Bruce Banner aiding him too).
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Thor 2 definitely has more punch whenever Loki is on screen. Great movie overall.
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FWIW, I thought that last night's Agents of SHIELD was the best episode thus far.
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FWIW, I thought that last night's Agents of SHIELD was the best episode thus far.
Yeah, it was really good. Can't wait for the Thor 2 tie-in.
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Yeah, though I was hoping it would be a little less tenuously connected. What's up with the magic staff? Why not just tie it in with the warping and what not.
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Honestly I think Thor now has a better film track record than any other superhero.
Even Superman & Superman 2 and Batman Begins - The Dark Knight & The Dark Knight Rises ?!
I don't think he was saying that the Thor movies are necessarily the best superhero movies. I took his post to mean that Thor's movies are better on average than any other superhero's movies. For instance, yeah, Batman has the Nolan trilogy going for him, but he also has Arnold Schwarzenegger's punfest on his track record. Thor doesn't really have any stinkers yet.
Bingo! Every other superhero seems to have at least one crapfest in their history.
But Thor doesn't.
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(https://i.imgur.com/MPkYlVI.jpg)
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That was on TV, it doesn't count.
That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
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That looks like a totally rad Thor. :lol
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That was on TV, it doesn't count.
That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
Yeah...this. :biggrin:
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That looks like a totally rad Thor. :lol
party on dude
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So I've noticed that today's episode of Agents of SHIELD is a direct followup to the new Thor movie. I was wondering if someone who's seen both could tell me how important to the plot of the SHIELD episode the events of the Thor movie are? I haven't gotten to the cinema to see it yet, so I'm wondering if I should hold off on watching Agents of SHIELD until I do. Or is the crossover fairly insignificant? Thanks.
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the crossover is pretty insignificant, I didn't really see what it had to do with the new Thor at all. I mean it involves Asgard and all that, but nothing really about the plot of the movie
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Cool, I'll watch the episode later tonight then. Thanks.
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I won't see Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. until tonight, but as far as Thor: The Dark World goes, S.H.I.E.L.D. is briefly mentioned offhand twice, and nobody from the agency is involved with the plot or shown.
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Finally saw Thor: The Dark World. I really enjoyed it, and thought it was better than the first film.
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The Amazing Spider-Man 2 trailer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkPCkYCh2P0&feature=c4-overview&list=UUZbzIn7mumz5Ct-uTC0dZPg
Looks like it's gonna be a good first half of the year for Marvel... Cap, x-men and Spidey all within a couple of months.
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Well, X-Men and Spider-Man aren't Marvel Studios films. But I hear what you're saying.
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I know... and hence why I didn't say Marvel Studios ;)
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I know... and hence why I didn't say Marvel Studios ;)
:-*
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Eh, I'm just not sold on a Peter Parker who isn't Toby Maguire. And Harry Osbourne is just going to be lame without Franco.
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Eh, I'm just not sold on a Peter Parker who isn't Toby Maguire. And Harry Osbourne is just going to be lame without Franco.
In my opinion, Toby Maguire was awful for him. He isn't great for action films. He did amazing on The Great Gatsby, though.
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Eh, I'm just not sold on a Peter Parker who isn't Toby Maguire. And Harry Osbourne is just going to be lame without Franco.
Especially with that emo hair.
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I'm pretty excited for the new Spider-Man, since I liked the first one. Loving the fact that we will see Electro and Rhino. My only concern at this point is the amount of enemies, as the trailer makes it look like three (Green Goblin or Harry for the third?), and having too many enemies in the same movie is almost impossible to pull off well.
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I'm pretty excited for the new Spider-Man, since I liked the first one. Loving the fact that we will see Electro and Rhino. My only concern at this point is the amount of enemies, as the trailer makes it look like three (Green Goblin or Harry for the third?), and having too many enemies in the same movie is almost impossible to pull off well.
We can't forget Spiderman 3, where we had Green Goblin, Venom, and Sandman in one film. Great movie, that one.
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I believe Rhino is only getting a small cameo, like a quick throwaway villain, and will be be used more in the next movie. Same with the others. They're setting up for future movies with the Sinister Six.
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The trailer hinted at Doc Ock and the Vulture as well. So those, along with Rhino, Electro, and some form of Goblin, along with a returning Lizard, would be the Sinister Six.
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The trailer hinted at Doc Ock and the Vulture as well. So those, along with Rhino, Electro, and some form of Goblin, along with a returning Lizard, would be the Sinister Six.
Except that you rhymed off seven bad guys. :biggrin:
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The trailer hinted at Doc Ock and the Vulture as well. So those, along with Rhino, Electro, and some form of Goblin, along with a returning Lizard, would be the Sinister Six.
Except that you rhymed off seven bad guys. :biggrin:
??? I count six.
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Convenient use of your mod powers.
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I only ever saw six villains named in his post. :lol
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I think he originally listed Black Panther, from Agents of SHIELD, but then removed it from his post.
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Oh, ok. Ignore me then.
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I think he originally listed Black Panther, from Agents of SHIELD, but then removed it from his post.
:tup
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I think he originally listed Black Panther, from Agents of SHIELD, but then removed it from his post.
:lol
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I think he originally listed Black Panther, from Agents of SHIELD, but then removed it from his post.
:lol
So, apparently, J. August Richards' character is actually going to be
Spoiler
Deathlok (https://television.cosmicbooknews.com/content/j-august-richards-confirmed-deathlok-marvels-agents-shield).
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Yeah, I read that earlier.
Very interesting.
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Well, the Super Bowl did bring us something good. A new Captain America trailer. More of the story revealed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7SlILk2WMTI
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Yes, too much, I feel like I've seen this movie already.
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Feels like Iron Man 2 all over again.
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???
This movie looks incredible.
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???
This movie looks incredible.
Yes "looks" incredible I agree. But the whole plot premise of 'bad guy comes out of nowhere kicking everyone's ass in sight with such super powers that good guy needs a new teammate and they barely prevail together' has been done. Many times.
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I don't think that's really the plot of this one.
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I don't think that's really the plot of this one.
If you're right, then ok. But, that's exactly the premise I got from the two trailers.
Doesn't matter... jingle.son and I will still be all over this on opening weekend.
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I don't think that's really the plot of this one.
If you're right, then ok. But, that's exactly the premise I got from the two trailers.
Doesn't matter... jingle.son and I will still be all over this on opening weekend.
Out of curiosity, what do you know about the Winter Soldier character/story?
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^The movie specifically, or the comics? The character arc is that he's Bucky... was frozen like Cap ... Russians brainwashed him into an assassin. That's what I know.
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So, in addition to voicing JARVIS, Paul Bettany will also play Vision in Avengers: Age of Ultron.
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I'm guessing that's because they'll say that Tony made JARVIS a body or something.
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Or if they follow the comics, Ultron builds Vision.
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Or if they follow the comics, Ultron builds Vision.
Right. I hope they stick to that, but since Hank Pym will apparently have no role in creating Ultron, we'll see.
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Don't think this has been posted: Guardians of the Galaxy full-length trailer. (https://io9.com/the-first-full-length-guardians-of-the-galaxy-just-got-1525683892) Looks hilarious.
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can't wait, seen it like 3 times already :lol
Chris Pratt is great, and the combo of John C Reilly and Lee Pace is just wonderful
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DUUUUUUUUUUDE that looks fuckin' incredible. Witty, funny, and still utterly badass. Can't waiiiiiiiit!
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I am SO looking forward to this! I love the 80s theme coming through, from the music to the vibe (it seems crazy, like Buckaroo Banzai), plus combined with Marvel's stellar track record - count me in!
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....ehhh....Hmmm.....nah...
....Wait - is that.....Peter Serafionwicz ?
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Yes sir it is. He sounds a bit like Darth Maul.
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Haha. Funny That. ;)
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Even as a marvel fan for many years, I had no idea what the Guardians of the Galaxy was until I heard they were making the movie, but after this trailer, I can't wait to see it.
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Weird, but I definetely like it. Looking forward to it.
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Isn't Lonestar what Bill Pullman is called in " Space Balls " ?
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Isn't Lonestar what Bill Pullman is called in " Space Balls " ?
yeah, but this guy is Star-Lord.
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haha. Huge diff.
Anyway this looks aarse - but still better than Man Of Steel ;D
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I'm looking forward to this very much, looks to be a great movie!
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Guardians of the Galaxy looks like it has its tongue knowingly in its cheek and knows it isn't meant to be serious. I love the comics this line up and the movie are based on, so I'll be all over this.
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I'm not familiar with Guardians of the Galaxy at all, but the film looks super entertaining. I'll be purchasing a ticket for it.
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I like it. Great vibe to it. On another note, finally saw Thor 2. Liked it, but I can't make head nor tales of the prequels at the end.
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The prequel at the end? You mean when Sif gives the box to The Collector?
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Guardians of the Galaxy looks like it has its tongue knowingly in its cheek and knows it isn't meant to be serious. I love the comics this line up and the movie are based on, so I'll be all over this.
Hmm... I guess...yeah, I agree. I thought this was going to be the stupidest film ever. But after seeing the trailer, I see how this could potentially actually work. Unlike Kevin Moore, I am open.
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The prequel at the end? You mean when Sif gives the box to The Collector?
Yeah... That's definitely after the events of the movie, Cyclopsss
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Yeah, but 'The Collector' in that short clip looks to be introduced in 'Guardians of the Galaxy" as well. And oh well, I always have a soft spot for green chicks. Or red ones. :angel:
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You got a sneak peek at a upcoming character and from what he says you can guess he's collecting the Infinity Gems. Either for himself or, more likely, for Thanos.
I don't understand what you can't make heads or tales of. :lol
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https://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=854398
The Defenders to start filming in NYC
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Just saw Thor 2 (bought the Blu Ray). It was MUCH better than I anticipated. For the most part, I loved it. The only exception is some of the completely unnecessary language.
Anyone else pick it up and watch the All Hail The King mini-movie? Related *SPOILERS* below.
So...apparently, the real Mandarin will be making an appearance. :tup I wonder whether that was planned all along or if Marvel is just reacting to some of the fan rage over how the character was changed. Doesn't bother me either way, but it would be brilliant if they had planned all along to have done it this way.
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"Fake" Mandarin goes to jail in Iron Man 3, still wearing the rings, BUSTS THE HELL OUT with freakish magic powers, everyone else thinks the "real" Mandarin is dead before they all get slaughtered by the real one.. Makes perfect since to me.
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Just saw Thor 2 (bought the Blu Ray). It was MUCH better than I anticipated. For the most part, I loved it. The only exception is some of the completely unnecessary language.
I don't remember any strong language. :huh:
Then again, I haven't seen it since it was in theaters.
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Just saw Thor 2 (bought the Blu Ray). It was MUCH better than I anticipated. For the most part, I loved it. The only exception is some of the completely unnecessary language.
I don't remember any strong language. :huh:
Then again, I haven't seen it since it was in theaters.
Not all of us like having our kids hear words even as "mild" as "sh#t"
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Yeah. Violence is a-ok, but heaven forbid someone say a bad word.
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Honestly I don't remember any language that was even mild, but I will likely watch it again tonight. I watched the Mandarin short, very entertaining, especially the cameo during the credits. Definitely was not expecting that.
Anyone catch last night's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.? I'm interested to hear thoughts on what the body was. Also, Sif is on next week.
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Yeah. Violence is a-ok, but heaven forbid someone say a bad word.
Some of us don't appreciate it. If you didn't notice the language or didn't care, that's fine. But that's no reason to belittle someone who feels differently. That's not an acceptable way to post on the forum.
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Anyone catch last night's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.? I'm interested to hear thoughts on what the body was. Also, Sif is on next week.
I haven't watched in forever. I got really behind when work ramped up a couple of months back and temporarily stopped watching. Since then, our DVR broke, so I lossed all the episodes I recorded. :( Now I just feel lost.
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Yeah. Violence is a-ok, but heaven forbid someone say a bad word.
Some of us don't appreciate it. If you didn't notice the language or didn't care, that's fine. But that's no reason to belittle someone who feels differently. That's not an acceptable way to post on the forum.
Don't really see any belittling but okay.
Also the movie's rated PG-13, I think it's safe to assume there might be some language, don't see why they'd have to dumb it down to a PG level if that's not what it's rated.
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Then I guess we have similar views, because *I* don't see why they need to dumb it down by using 4th grade vocabulary unnecessarily.
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I'm sorry but I think it's funny that someone complains about their kids hearing the word "shit" (which was the worst swear word in Dark World and, I believe, only used once) and not minding the half dozen or so cases of impalement, dismemberment, and violent death in the Thor movie. That was some pretty brutal shit for a PG-13 movie. :lol
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Then I guess we have similar views, because *I* don't see why they need to dumb it down by using 4th grade vocabulary unnecessarily.
So if it's 4th grade vocabulary, what's the problem with kids hearing it? :biggrin:
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Then I guess we have similar views, because *I* don't see why they need to dumb it down by using 4th grade vocabulary unnecessarily.
So if it's 4th grade vocabulary, what's the problem with kids hearing it? :biggrin:
I wasn't the one who brought up kids. But as it relates to kids, I can't speak for other parents, but personally, I'd like my kids to have more class, maturity, and intelligence than the average 4th grader.
But beyond that, it's language that *I* don't want to hear. It serves no purpose, and dumbs down an otherwise good movie for no good reason. And although it is a fairly minor point, it's still a bit of a bummer because the movie would have lost nothing by keeping the language clean.
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I don't see how swearing is dumbing down anything. Yeah some people curse a bit too much, but they're words, words with meanings, that are very applicable in certain situations; and it DOES serve a purpose. You don't have to say it or use it, but it has it's meaning, and there's nothing wrong with others using it.
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I can't speak for other parents, but personally, I'd like my kids to have more class, maturity, and intelligence than the average 4th grader.
And what if I told you people who swear are not necessarily less intelligent than you are?
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C'mon man, we're talking about a movie where one character, ONCE, says "holy shit" in a reaction of shock. We're not talking about a non stop barrage of F-bombs, we're talking about an actual, honest human reaction. Thor wasn't going around calling Malekith a no good motherfucker for what he did, it was one swear word. It didn't dumb anything down. If anything, like I mentioned, the sheer level of violence in the movie would be the deal breaker for me showing it to kids, not someone shouting "holy shit" in shock.
By the way, my IQ tested at a genius level when I was in school, I had a twelfth grade reading level at age 7, I'm blisteringly intelligent, and I swear like a sailor. A lot of the smartest people I know swear. Assuming someone who swears is an idiot is so tired that these days I just scoff at it. Suggesting someone is better than me because they don't swear? Fuck that noise.
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I don't see how swearing is dumbing down anything. Yeah some people curse a bit too much, but they're words, words with meanings, that are very applicable in certain situations; and it DOES serve a purpose. You don't have to say it or use it, but it has it's meaning, and there's nothing wrong with others using it.
You are blurring together "meaning" and "purpose." Of course words have meaning. But that does not mean they have purpose. If those terms were meant to have a purpose that in anyway enhanced what was going on in the movie, then the word choice was an abject failure, because it did not enhance anything.
And, yes, there is something wrong with using crude or coarse language. Hence my objection to it.
I can't speak for other parents, but personally, I'd like my kids to have more class, maturity, and intelligence than the average 4th grader.
And what if I told you people who swear are not necessarily less intelligent than you are?
Oh, sure. There are plenty of people more intelligent than I am who swear. It's just a shame they choose to use a less intelligent, less classy vocabulary.
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C'mon man, we're talking about a movie where one character, ONCE, says "holy shit" in a reaction of shock. We're not talking about a non stop barrage of F-bombs...
Okay. What's your point? :dunno:
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The point being that there was an obvious purpose as to why it was used, and it wasn't just because "Lol he said a naughty word"
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Okay, and I still come back to the fact that that is (1) unnecessary, and (2) lazy writing, and is the one slight ding I would give an otherwise very good film.
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What would you have them say?
Like, I don't get why it's bad writing when it fits for the situation perfectly.
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Oh, sure. There are plenty of people more intelligent than I am who swear. It's just a shame they choose to use a less intelligent, less classy vocabulary.
Not to be disrespectful, but the mention of this implies that those that don't curse are better/superior (not exclusively in intellect) to those that do curse? In Thor, if it was the Kat Dennings character (I don't specifically remember), it was completely in context and an appropriate reaction, and in no way suggests lazy writing. It's how a lot of people speak.
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People still get upset over language in movies in the year of 2014?
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No, the movie's from 2013.
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People still get upset over language in movies in the year of 2014?
??? Who is upset?
No, the movie's from 2013.
:lol
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The bosk edition coming 2015 will have the line changed to "holy moly".
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Relevant. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNqiSkd1M6k)
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Relevant. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNqiSkd1M6k)
:lol
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Well, at least it didn't have any boobies in it.
That'll scar kids for life.
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I find that movies with swears are always more realistic, because in real life, people swear.
That doesn't mean that I'm demanding that we pack every kids movie with fucks, just my general thought on the subject.
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Extended 4 minute clip of Cap'n America:
https://www.fandango.com/movie-trailer/captainamerica:thewintersoldier:changed-trailer/155540/2440630636
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Extended 4 minute clip of Cap'n America:
https://www.fandango.com/movie-trailer/captainamerica:thewintersoldier:changed-trailer/155540/2440630636
Saw that yesterday. Absolutely cannot wait for this film!
I read yesterday that AMC theaters will be showing a double feature of both CA films on April 3rd. That's pretty awesome.
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Just got back home from my midnight screening. Without any spoilers.....Captain America: The Winter Soldier is not only the best film in the Phase 2 collection thus far, but it is the best film in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. "But what about The Avengers?" As much hype as Avengers has received, i thought it seriously fell short in the second act. Winter Soldier had a beginning, middle, and end that was very well written! The Russo Brothers, who directed my favorite episodes of Community, delivered!
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Nice! That dovetails with a lot of advance word I've heard about the film. I'll be catching it this weekend.
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Me too. Heading out to see it Saturday night with the jingle.kids. Jungle.daughter is turning into quite the marvel fan. She's obsessed with Agents of SHIELD, and bugged the crap out of me to get Thor 2 on Blu Ray.
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Me too. Heading out to see it Saturday night with the jingle.kids. Jungle.daughter is turning into quite the marvel fan. She's obsessed with Agents of SHIELD, and bugged the crap out of me to get Thor 2 on Blu Ray.
That is awesome. We are seeing the Capt. movie in Imax Sunday. can't wait. BTW the last SHIELD episode was awesome!
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I saw The Winter Soldier almost 2 weeks ago and it is indeed pretty good. Maybe not as good as Avengers, but top3 after Avengers and Iron Man I would say. And I don't even consider myself the biggest Marvel-fan, I would say only 3-4 of their movies have been really good, with the rest being pretty enjoyable for the moment, but not something I've rewatched.
Still, I'm way more excited for The Amazing Spider-Man 2 and X-Men Days of Future Past, they look epic. Even Guardians of the Galaxy will be cool probably.
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Definitely looking forward to Guardians. I could care less about Spidey and X-Men.
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Definitely looking forward to Guardians. I couldn't care less about Spidey and X-Men.
:huh:
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I thought Guardians
looked sounded incredibly dumb when it was first announced but the trailers make it look like the film-makers know just how batshit stupid the entire idea is and are totally going with it.
Spider-Man 2.... I'll probably see it, but I'm not that psyched. The first one was better than it had any right to be but it still wasn't that great. X-Men looks like it's going to be a giant clusterfuck of epic proportions. I hope it proves me wrong though because I love the X-Men.
Hopefully I'm going to see Cap'n 'Murika tomorrow night. I've been looking forward to it for a couple of months now and it's been a while since I've been to the theater to see a movie. The beginning of the year sucks.
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Saw The Winter Soldiers last night. It was pretty good, not as amazing as some people has said but definetely a good super hero movie.
I'm not looking forward to Spider-Man very much, but I guess I'll see that as well. X-Men however just looks more and more awesome for every trailer.
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I'm really enjoying Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. It just gets better and better! We're a bit behind in the UK though, as Channel 4 wanted to air the second half of the season all in one go, rather than have loads of random breaks like in the US.
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The last 3-4 episodes of Agents have been an incredible improvement over the opening episodes. I'm really glad I stuck with this, it's turning into a great action-thriller series.
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I'm really enjoying Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. It just gets better and better! We're a bit behind in the UK though, as Channel 4 wanted to air the second half of the season all in one go, rather than have loads of random breaks like in the US.
That's too bad, because apparently there will be some significance in watching this week's episode, then Captain America:The Winter Soldier, then next week's episode, in that order.
But yes, I've enjoyed it all season, and it has really improved in the last several episodes.
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I watched the first 5 or 6 episodes of Agents of SHIELD but then I gave up. Quality of the show aside, I quickly realized that I really don't care. Take the super heroes away and the excitement is gone. I was also hoping for more tie-ins with the movies, but understandably they can't do as much as I had hoped for.
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I gave up on Agents of Shield after its somewhat long break about three to four months ago, not out of any conscious decision but, when it came back, I just didn't care. It's not the worst show I've watched, but given the movies, the source material, and the creators, it was just disappointing. The characters were largely bland (although I liked May), the acting unimpressive, the tie-ins half-assed, and the writing was mostly lazy. As a concept, it had potential but they just didn't do anything interesting with it. It's really telling when the pilot is the best executed episode of the series.
If it's gotten better, that's good, but I don't know if I can muster up enough caring to start watching again on the off chance that it might be interesting now. There's too much good TV out there that's either airing right now or that I've never seen before to spend time on mediocrity.
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when I read post like yours TKIC, it reminds me of TV shows like Seinfeld & The Simpsons but you've got to give them time. Just like bands and their early releases.
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when I read post like yours TKIC, it reminds me of TV shows like Seinfeld & The Simpsons but you've got to give them time. Just like bands and their early releases.
That's fair, but even shows like The Simpsons, Seinfeld or Fringe, which all had lower than average quality first seasons, managed to have something commendable about them after twelve episodes or at least some reason to continue watching. Aside from the ties in to the movie franchise, I really can't think of anything that makes me want to watch Agents anymore.
Don't get me wrong, I've poo-pooed plenty of shows after two or three episodes for various reasons at the time (Revolution comes to mind) and I've also given a lot of shows enough time to grow on me beyond the initial few first episodes that I was largely ambivalent about (Mad Men) so I do get that each show needs a chance to find its feet or establish something substantial about itself before passing judgement. The question is, how much time does that take? Some shows find their feet relatively quickly, others take a season or maybe even more. But at that point, should I continue investing time in a show that offers little to no gratification in the hopes that maybe it will get better... sometime, somewhere?
IMO, twelve or so episodes is a sufficient amount of time for a show to find its voice.
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I would have agreed with you but the last 3 episodes have been dynamite.
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Maybe I'll give it another shot when I'm caught up on other television then though I cannot remember what the last episode I watched was. I think it was the one where Coulson was abducted or something?
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Yup. there are answers to how he was brought back to life but why he was is not answered.
My DVR is on overdrive right now. I need to loosen my schedule! :lol
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Maybe I'll give it another shot when I'm caught up on other television then though I cannot remember what the last episode I watched was. I think it was the one where Coulson was abducted or something?
It's too bad you gave up at that point... that's just when business started to pick up.
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I don't understand the complaints about SHIELD, and I don't know why people are expecting bombast on the level of the movies. TV is an entirely different beast, with slow character development and story arcs.
I'm really enjoying Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. It just gets better and better! We're a bit behind in the UK though, as Channel 4 wanted to air the second half of the season all in one go, rather than have loads of random breaks like in the US.
That's too bad, because apparently there will be some significance in watching this week's episode, then Captain America:The Winter Soldier, then next week's episode, in that order.
Yeah I think we're around 2-3 episodes behind at the moment, but Winter Soldier has been released at the same time. I don't really mind though, I'm assuming the timings don't need to be all that exact.
But yes, I've enjoyed it all season, and it has really improved in the last several episodes.
Likewise, I've enjoyed it since the start. As with many shows, it started more episodic while the characters, settings etc. were established, and now it's becoming more of a serial. As such, I think it's really picking up steam.
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Holy shit, Captain America :The Winter Soldier was awesome!
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Sebastian Stann owned that role!! I have to concur with the people saying Winter Soldier is the best Marvel film yet!
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It was fantastic, certainly either the best or second best.
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It was fantastic, certainly either the best or second best.
I'll put it 2nd behind The Avengers. Best of Phase 2 so far. Each movie has gotten progressively better. I'm just kinda bummed we have to wait 13 months for another Marvel movie with any Avengers cast. I'm still dumbfounded as to why they aren't building a Hulk franchise?
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Can't wait to see it tomorrow!
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It was fantastic, certainly either the best or second best.
I'll put it 2nd behind The Avengers. Best of Phase 2 so far. Each movie has gotten progressively better. I'm just kinda bummed we have to wait 13 months for another Marvel movie with any Avengers cast. I'm still dumbfounded as to why they aren't building a Hulk franchise?
You and me both!
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According to Joss Whedon, characters who haven't been seen since The Avengers, like Hulk and Hawkeye, will have larger roles in Avengers :Age of Ultron.
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I have a gut feeling that Age of Ultron is going to set up a Planet Hulk movie
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Holy shit, Captain America :The Winter Soldier was awesome!
I concur. I'm not hugely into this stuff, but saw it today with some friends and loved it. And laughed my ass off at "The path of the righteous man..."
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I have a gut feeling that Age of Ultron is going to set up a Planet Hulk movie
It would be cool if they do that. And then Avengers 3 could be World War Hulk.
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Planet Hulk/World War Hulk was awesome
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Holy shit, Captain America :The Winter Soldier was awesome!
I concur. I'm not hugely into this stuff, but saw it today with some friends and loved it. And laughed my ass off at "The path of the righteous man..."
Yeah, I almost fell out of my seat laughing so hard.
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Holy shit, Captain America :The Winter Soldier was awesome!
I concur. I'm not hugely into this stuff, but saw it today with some friends and loved it. And laughed my ass off at "The path of the righteous man..."
Yeah, I almost fell out of my seat laughing so hard.
Damn... I totally missed it. What scene was that?
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Holy shit, Captain America :The Winter Soldier was awesome!
I concur. I'm not hugely into this stuff, but saw it today with some friends and loved it. And laughed my ass off at "The path of the righteous man..."
Yeah, I almost fell out of my seat laughing so hard.
Damn... I totally missed it. What scene was that?
SPOILERS
On Nick Fury's gravestone was this quote: "The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. - Ezekiel 25:17" Which, of course, was Jackson's catch phrase from Pulp Fiction.
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Beautiful!!! Of course I recognize the Pulp Fiction tie in... but I obviously didn't pay close enough attention to that part it popped up in Cap.
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I didn't see it either. Cool stuff.
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Yeah, it took a second to register and then I was like OHHHH SHIT :rollin
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When I read the comic books, I can not imagine how Captain America can take down platoons of soldiers, tanks and aircraft. I believed that that would look ridiculous.
Marvel proved me wrong. That initial scene where Cap stormed the ship, that looked highly believable. Even more believable than Batman taking down criminal gangs. And when Cap downed the SHIELD aircraft. And the elevator scene. WOW. A whole different level of action filmmaking in those scenes.
The trio's fight with SHIELD and the Winter Soldier is so un-superhero movie-ish, it looked amazing.
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Yeah, the hand-to-hand stuff was really gritty and visceral. And bloody, too.
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Even the gun fights were so un-superheroic.
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Incredible movie. This definitely changes everything on the SHIELD show.
Spoilers:
After how douchy FOX was about using Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch first, it's great that Marvel STILL got them on screen first, and I'm sure they will do a much better job with them than Days of Future Past. Loki's scepter! Also, a Dr. Strange reference.
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Awesome movie, probably in the top 3 of the MCU for me. The only complaint I have about it is that it suffers from the same thing as most of these Marvel movies do: The first half is jaw-dropping and suspenseful, but the second half is action-packed to a fault.
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Saw Winter Soldier last Friday. I don't dislike all the superhero movies, they're definitely fun to watch once, but I don't cream over them like everyone seems to.
But this movie was the best by far. Fucking awesome.
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I was on BoxOfficeMojo looking at the Worldwide Grosses for all the MCU films so far...
Didn't realise Ed Norton's Hulk made so little money. $250m +/- on a $150m +/- budget.
It didn't do that much better than Ang Lee's hulk. I guess people don't enjoy that character on his own.
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I think that a new Hulk film would do better. Assuming there is a good script (which hasn't been a problem with the Marvel films, with the possible exception of Iron Man 2). He just seems like a tough character to write for.
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I think a main problem with a Hulk movie is that you need someone to balance him out, like a Black Widow in TWS, but in a Hulk movie. Another problem is the powers itself. Once Bruce Banner becomes The Hulk, he doesn't really have much control of what he is doing, at least he hasn't in the previous movies. Avengers could have changed that, because Mark Ruffalo is shown to be able to control his powers slightly better, and The Hulk works in the team, and doesn't just run around smashing things.
The Hulk is otherwise a very primal kind of hero. He breaks things. I would love to see a Mark Ruffalo Hulk movie though, but I can understand why they haven't made one yet. I would imagine writing a really good Hulk movie is hard. Unlike the other heroes they have, it's kinda hard to understand his motivations or actions once he becomes The Hulk, since it's mostly breaking things.
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I was going to write something similar. Once he's Bruce Banner - you could explore his backstory / character a bit and give him an arc -
- yet once he becomes Hulk - he really has no depth.
They could do something whereby he manages to retain his Bruce Banner self-awareness as Hulk and what that could mean -
- or something like the first Fantastic Four - where he loses his power to become Hulk but ultimately decides to keep it in the end.
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Do you guys suppose it would still be enjoyable to watch Winter Soldier if you never saw the first Cap movie? I've seen the rest of the Marvel movies, except for that one.
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Enjoyable? Yes. But there are certainly some references that make a shit-ton more sense if you've seen the first. You might be scratching your head during a few scenes thinking 'what the fuck was that all about?'
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Do you guys suppose it would still be enjoyable to watch Winter Soldier if you never saw the first Cap movie? I've seen the rest of the Marvel movies, except for that one.
It's been playing all over the FX channel. Unless you are at college and stream it.
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Yes, watch the first before seeing the second. There is a shit-ton of stuff you won't understand.
On another note, HOLY SHIT The Winter Soldier was an AMAZING movie.
Then you have to ask "Where does it go from here?"
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The Hulk has proven on a number of occasions now that he can't really carry a film by himself. Even though he's one of the most popular comic book characters, he still can't muster an audience. Personally I think The Incredible Hulk is the weakest of the MCU films so far, but that is probably just because it isn't as fun as Iron Man 2, even if it's put together better. As someone mentioned before, the character isn't that deep once you get past the whole "beast within" stuff, and he has a severe lack of good villains as well.
I have to imagine that these are at least some of the reasons we haven't had another solo Hulk film yet, despite the warm reception Ruffalo got as Banner in the Avengers. I'm sure they will use him again at some point, but every other MCU film has kicked The Incredible Hulk's ass at this point.
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Yeah that Hulk just can't act.
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Hopefully going to see Winter Soldier on Wednesday.
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I have to imagine that these are at least some of the reasons we haven't had another solo Hulk film yet
I've a feeling we're going to get a Planet Hulk movie. Either Avengers 2 is setting it up or a film in Phase 3 will. That concept art of Iron Man Hulkbuster fighting the Hulk that came with the Quicksilver and Scarlett Witch artwork might have something to do with it. Don't ask me why, it's just a gut feeling.
Also, if that happens, we can finally get Beta Ray fuckin Bill in a movie.
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I'd love to see them continue to the Secret Wars.
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I have to imagine that these are at least some of the reasons we haven't had another solo Hulk film yet
I've a feeling we're going to get a Planet Hulk movie. Either Avengers 2 is setting it up or a film in Phase 3 will. That concept art of Iron Man Hulkbuster fighting the Hulk that came with the Quicksilver and Scarlett Witch artwork might have something to do with it. Don't ask me why, it's just a gut feeling.
Also, if that happens, we can finally get Beta Ray fuckin Bill in a movie.
Oh I wouldn't be surprised at all especially since they are talking about doing 3 to 4 movies per year in the future. And while the Hulk hasn't fared well financially against Cap, Iron Man, and Thor, I'm sure he would do fine compared to Dr. Strange.
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I never liked the Hulk as a character. Never was able to get into him at all. So with VERY low expectations, I saw the Ed Norton Hulk film and thought it was fantastic. I also thought the character worked really well in The Avengers. That being said, I don't really have any strong desire to see another stand-alone Hulk movie. I think the character almost works better if we keep him as the mysterious recluse who only surfaces when the threat is so dire that the entire team needs him.
And The Winter Soldier was very good. The Falcon felt like a completely gratuitous addition, but the eye-candy of seeing him flying around dodging missiles made it worth it, I guess. Thor II and Cap II are definitely strong additions to phase 2.
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Oh, just ran across some VERY interesting real-world facts about the Marvel film universe that has some MAJOR spoilage:
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Chris Evans' contract is for 6 films in total. He has done three so far (Cap 1&2 and Avengers). Sebastian Stan has a 9-film contract with Marvel. He has only done two films so far. I was not much of a Cap fan back in the day, but I have done enough reading about The Winder Soldier character that I think it is fairly obvious where this is going.
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Yep!
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So...*spoilers*
They're going to kill off Captain America, and Winter Soldier will replace him? :omg:
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Okay. I've done quite a bit of research on this subject. ENORMOUS SPOILERS BELOW:
I've confirmed the death of Captain America, and all the pieces fit. We know now that Captain America will leave us very soon, in three more movies he appears in. This is because he is killed by none other than Brock Rumlow, who we saw going in the hospital VERY messed up at the end of Captain America: The Winter Soldier. He then becomes Crossbones (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossbones_%28comics%29), who kills Captain America IN THE COMICS. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Death_of_Captain_America#The_Death_of_the_Dream)
Then The Winter Soldier becomes Captain America (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_Soldier_%28comics%29#The_new_Captain_America), unless he just remains The Winter Soldier among them.
It all fits together. Seriously. Goodbye Captain America.
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We know now that Captain America will leave us very soon, in three more movies he appears in. This is because he is killed by none other than Brock Rumlow, who we saw going in the hospital VERY messed up at the end of Captain America: The Winter Soldier. He then becomes Crossbones (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossbones_%28comics%29), who kills Captain America IN THE COMICS. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Death_of_Captain_America#The_Death_of_the_Dream)
Then The Winter Soldier becomes Captain America (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_Soldier_%28comics%29#The_new_Captain_America), unless he just remains The Winter Soldier among them.
It all fits together. Seriously. Goodbye Captain America.
Well, given the timeline we have, three movies actually isn't very "soon." We are probably looking at Avengers 2, Cap 3, and Avengers 3, unless he plays a major role in something else before then (which I suppose is entirely possible; they could do a major crossover that is not titled "Avengers").
And I could be wrong, but I doubt it will be Rumlow that kills him. It would be too obvious for them to follow the comic that closely. I think it is an intentional red herring. Perhaps Thanos offs him in Avengers 3. After all, Thanos is powerful enough that it is likely that someone will die fighting him. But who knows? Marvel studios may not even have it figured out yet.
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It is rather obvious. Simply pointing it out, I am as intrigued as everyone else as to where this will go.
Anyways..
Guardians of the Galaxy looks like it will be FUN.
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Chris Evans' contract is for 6 films in total. He has done three so far (Cap 1&2 and Avengers). Sebastian Stan has a 9-film contract with Marvel. He has only done two films so far. I was not much of a Cap fan back in the day, but I have done enough reading about The Winder Soldier character that I think it is fairly obvious where this is going.
You're forgetting Evans' cameo in Thor 2. So, he only has two more movies to go. Also, I thought Agent 13 killed Cap in the comics - "Crossbones snipes at him while Sharon Carter, who has been brainwashed by Doctor Faustus posing as a S.H.I.E.L.D. psychiatrist, delivers the killing blow."
We get a lot of things potentially setup at the end of Cap 2. So many directions that Marvel can branch out from now. :caffeine:
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I was told that the cameo does not count toward fullfilling his contract because it is not a major role. But, yeah, good catch otherwise. (and given that his shield appeared in Hulk and Iron Man 2, that makes 6 already, so maybe he is already actually dead! :dangerwillrobinson: )
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I really doubt they will kill off the real Cap and have The Winter Soldier take his place. It does happen in the comics, but that doesn't mean it will happen in the movies. Marvel signs everyone to at least 8-9 picture deals now, because they don't want to go through what happened with RDJ ever again. Just because it's a nine picture deal doesn't mean they have nine movies planned, it just means that if they want to use his character again, he will be obligated to come.
Even though it's a nod to the comic book fans, you have to remember that most of the audience who see the movies aren't into the comics. So for the same reason you won't see Ben Reilly or Miles Morales as Spider-Man, Dick Grayson or Terry McGinnes as Batman, I don't think you will see Bucky as Cap America. Steve Rogers is Captain America, and killing him off would just be stupid. Besides, I would imagine after the third Cap America movie, Marvel will "shelve" the character for a while. They have other heroes and characters they haven't explored yet, and we know a Dr. Strange movie and a Black Panther movie is being planned so. I would also imagine a sequel to Guardians of the Galaxy will happen, and a sequel to Ant-Man might not be impossible either, depending on how they do ofc.
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I agree for the most part, except that if they don't have future plans for the Winter Soldier, there would be no reason for an extended contract, and Chris Evans is planning on retiring from acting. Also, with the kind of business this film is making, and the high hopes they have for the third film (it is opening against Batman/Superman in 2016), I doubt that they are "shelving" this character. Too much money on the table. Plus, the story of the Winter Soldier is already going to span two films. They won't give up on him that easy.
Steve Rogers may not die in the films, but I would bet anything that TWS will eventually take on the role of Cap.
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Well, they could use The Winter Soldier in many ways without making him Captain America though. Regarding the movie going up against Batman vs Superman, I don't think people should expect that to happen. I'm pretty confident that Warner Brothers will move their date, because it would be incredibly stupid for them not to. They need Batman vs Superman to be a huge hit, and opening on the same day as CA3 will only harm it. Batman vs Superman would still be a bigger box office hit, but WB/DC doesn't have the same room that Marvel has. CA3 could be a huge flop, and it wouldn't affect Marvel that much. They are in the position where a bomb isn't the end of the world. (CA3 probably won't be a bomb though)
Still, I don't think The Winter Soldier will be Captain America because of the reasons I stated earlier. Steve Rogers IS Captain America. Throwing the costume on someone else and slapping the same name on it, I just don't see that as very appealing to general audiences. I could see The Winter Soldier becoming more of an ally of Captain America, and become a hero on his own, but him in the costume.. I just don't see it. If people go and see a Captain America movie, they want to see Steve Rogers. (There's probably a small group of comic book fans who disagree, but generally speaking ofc)
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*shrugs*
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I agree for the most part, except that if they don't have future plans for the Winter Soldier, there would be no reason for an extended contract, and Chris Evans is planning on retiring from acting. Also, with the kind of business this film is making, and the high hopes they have for the third film (it is opening against Batman/Superman in 2016), I doubt that they are "shelving" this character. Too much money on the table. Plus, the story of the Winter Soldier is already going to span two films. They won't give up on him that easy.
Steve Rogers may not die in the films, but I would bet anything that TWS will eventually take on the role of Cap.
He's not retiring:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DiAilPEatQ#t=73 (1:12)
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Bloomberg just did a feature article on Marvel Studios and Kevin Fiege. Everyone should go find that article. Some pretty amazing things there. Two things that stuck with me... First, Fiege has a board of movie ideas in his office planned out to 2028. Second, they've identified over 8,000 characters in the Marvel comic universe they can draw from.
It's an incredibly informative and revealing piece. Not sure if it's online anywhere.
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Yeah, I can't find it, but I'm really interested in reading it.
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Bloomberg just did a feature article on Marvel Studios and Kevin Fiege. Everyone should go find that article. Some pretty amazing things there. Two things that stuck with me... First, Fiege has a board of movie ideas in his office planned out to 2028. Second, they've identified over 8,000 characters in the Marvel comic universe they can draw from.
It's an incredibly informative and revealing piece. Not sure if it's online anywhere.
It WAS online, because I read it about 2 weeks ago.
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Bloomberg just did a feature article on Marvel Studios and Kevin Fiege. Everyone should go find that article. Some pretty amazing things there. Two things that stuck with me... First, Fiege has a board of movie ideas in his office planned out to 2028. Second, they've identified over 8,000 characters in the Marvel comic universe they can draw from.
It's an incredibly informative and revealing piece. Not sure if it's online anywhere.
It WAS online, because I read it about 2 weeks ago.
https://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-04-03/kevin-feige-marvels-superhero-at-running-movie-franchises#p1
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Great read!
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Bloomberg just did a feature article on Marvel Studios and Kevin Fiege. Everyone should go find that article. Some pretty amazing things there. Two things that stuck with me... First, Fiege has a board of movie ideas in his office planned out to 2028. Second, they've identified over 8,000 characters in the Marvel comic universe they can draw from.
It's an incredibly informative and revealing piece. Not sure if it's online anywhere.
It WAS online, because I read it about 2 weeks ago.
https://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-04-03/kevin-feige-marvels-superhero-at-running-movie-franchises#p1
Yeah, that's it. :)
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I was told that the cameo does not count toward fullfilling his contract because it is not a major role. But, yeah, good catch otherwise. (and given that his shield appeared in Hulk and Iron Man 2, that makes 6 already, so maybe he is already actually dead! :dangerwillrobinson: )
I think it would count, otherwise Samuel L's cameos in IM 1, Thor, and Cap 1 wouldn't count, but per the below, they do.
"I've done six, and I'm about to do (number) seven (Marvel's The Avengers: Age of Ultron)," says Jackson, "so I'm running out of Marvel pictures -- unless they extend my contract."
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Okay, either the article I read was incorrect, or Jackson is not clear on his contract terms. Neither option would surprise me. Or I guess a third option could be that his contract terms are different in terms of how much of an appearance counts toward fulfilling his obligation. That would not surprise me either.
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Okay, either the article I read was incorrect, or Jackson is not clear on his contract terms. Neither option would surprise me. Or I guess a third option could be that his contract terms are different in terms of how much of an appearance counts toward fulfilling his obligation. That would not surprise me either.
Yeah, different actors could have different terms/obligations on how much screen time constitutes an 'appearance'.
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So, what was the post credits scene in Cap 2? I would have thought it would be on Youtube by now
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There were two. They are out there. As you might guess, one seems to be mostly a setup for future developments in Cap's world, and the other seems to have bigger implications for the Marvel universe as a whole.
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The first post-credits scene sets up Avengers 2, the second post-credits scene is pretty much useless and more self-contained to the movie (The Winter Soldier) itself.
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I read an interview with Evans about a month ago, and he said that his cameo in Thor: The Dark World didn't count in his 6.
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I read an interview with Evans about a month ago, and he said that his cameo in Thor: The Dark World didn't count in his 6.
I would hope not. I think he was a last-minute addition, given that they also shot that scene with Tom Hiddleston wearing the CA costume.
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Oh god. That moment when you are reading through a spoiler thread and forget that it's a spoiler thread 'till it's too late
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What got ruined for you?
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I -think- something did. Not much but I think I am assuming something based on a few comments made on about the new Capt. America movie a page or two back. Doesn't matter... I think we're going to go see it on Tuesday for my birthday :)
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Not Avengers-related, but still Marvel: I rented The Amazing Spiderman this last weekend. I thought it was pretty good. Not great, and not as good as any of the Avengers-related movies, IMO, but not bad. I kinda miss Tobey's version of spidey. I felt like they got a lot right about the character of Peter Parker and Spiderman with that series, and I preferred the innocence of the relationship with Mary Jane over this iteration's relationship with Gwen. But this one also captured other aspects of the characters better than the prior, so I'm a bit torn.
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Garfield's Parker is a lot better than Tobey's Parker, to me anyway, but parts of the film were very contrived. I enjoyed it, but I fully expect the sequels and spin-offs to fall flat.
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Agree, Bosk. Although I have to say, I tried my absolute hardest to like the new Spidey series and I utterly abhor it. I was so bored during both of them (the second moreso than the first...but that doesn't gauge it very well since I nearly walked out of the first). I mean really, I hate them. I hate the teenie-bopper attitude that they've given Gwen and Peter (granted, while he 'is Spidey', his character is great) and the absolutely ridiculously light-speed way they 'fall in love' over the course of what seems a matter of days. I dislike the the way the portrayed Electro to be the main villain only to plaster the fact that Harry was the 'real' villain only weeks before the movie's release (and I did my best to avoid spoilers, mind you).
I'm just really kind of disgusted and bored with the whole vibe, direction, and general feel of the new series. It isn't even the material itself that 'offends' me, it's the fucking portrayal and almost soap-opera drama they bring with it. Truly, I detest the day that Sony got the Spidey rights...how I many monies I would throw at Disney/Marvel to see Iron Man and Spidey bicker on screen, or better yet, Hulk trying to rip Wolverine apart while Spidey cracks some jokes about Wolvy. It's just never gonna happen with the greedy nasty twats that run those companies. It's not about the fans or the material anymore... I digress. I wish I wasn't so sour to Sony's superheros and I've tried to like everything they've adapted, verily. I suppose it doesn't help that I don't really enjoy Garfield's performances, despite getting the Spidey attitude down, he fails in all other aspects in my eyes.
On a happier note, I couldn't be more pleased with Marvel studios and the upcoming GOTG (or rather hope to be). I really like that they're sticking very closely to the comics light-hearted tone with the inevitable dread looming beneath.
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^^ I'm a DC guy....how do you think I feel about WB having their hands all over DC characters with no one from DC as a creative influence? Even though I'm one of the few that enjoyed Man of Steel, Zack Snyder shouldn't be directing the Justice League movie that has been confirmed. I think what has been made the Marvel Cinematic Universe so appealing is the the diversity of creative talent from each movie, and I feel that way about someone else taking over Justice League
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Agreed, and recently I've actually been much more into DC comics than I have Marvel, so at least it's balanced out. :lol ...and I actually enjoyed most of MoS, the ending was a bit sour and it dragged at points, but I really liked it; especially the handling of Clark's Smallville days and self-discovery.
But yeah I'm not looking forward to the JL movie at all... Because they haven't given us time to care for the characters! It feels like they're throwing this together willy-nilly in lieu of Marvel's (years of) perfected cinematic universe truly beginning to bloom. I was skeptical enough with Batman thrown in without his own movie but with all the recent additions I almost have an exact vision of what has plagued the X-Men and Spidey movies so horribly: the overcasting of major characters without a drop of development.
I don't expect to hate BvS or the JL movies but I'd care a lot more and be a lot more excited if they'd get over the fact that they missed the gravy train and start where Marvel did with one character, one movie at a time. It doesn't make any sense to me to go backwards and have the single-character-centric movies after the mash-up...I feel like I'm spoiling the real fun.
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Garfield's Parker is a lot better than Tobey's Parker, to me anyway, but parts of the film were very contrived. I enjoyed it, but I fully expect the sequels and spin-offs to fall flat.
I agree, I enjoy Garfield's Parker more than Tobey's. One of the things I've always enjoyed about Spider-Man is the sarcasm and Garfield has it in full force.
Still, the Lizard was a laughable villain.
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I DISAGREE WITH YOUR OPINION DIMITRI BUT I'M TOTALLY FINE WITH THE FACT THAT WE MAY NOT SEE EYE TO EYE ON THIS TOPIC SO I SHALL MOVE ON.
(I just noticed that I started the last two posts agreeing with someone so I wanted to throw some pizzazz in the mix)
Just finished watching Thor 2 again and I really, really like it; one of my favorite superhero films. It's got some awesome quips and humor while still being the awesome spectacle that we've come to expect from these films. Loki just downright STEALS the show, and honestly I probably wouldn't like the film all that much if not for Tom's performance.
Also I'm too lazy to go into the movie thread and post this but I'll say Don Jon was a lot better than I thought it'd be so. Y'know. Maybe Don Jon should be inducted into Marvel or something alright alright alright? Cause I sure as shit can't go a week without porn. I mean. Fucking hell.
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THIS JUST IN !!!
Edgar Wright has quit " Ant Man " over creative differences.
A replacement has been found but not named.
Edgar Wright co-wriote the script with Joe Cornish.
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source? link?
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...sigh...
www.google.com
https://www.totalfilm.com/news/edgar-wright-leaves-ant-man-due-to-creative-differences
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Significance?
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It's a fucking Marvel film ?
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Yes, but a film nobody cares about that is about a "hero" nobody has ever even heard of, so...so what?
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It's about a marvel movie.
It's in the marvel movie thread.
Jog on.
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I was really excited for the movie BECAUSE of Edgar Wright. Let him do whatever he want, he's a great director. With him gone, my interest in the project dropped with 50% and my faith in Marvel dropped. The movie will still probably be good, but damn it I wanted Edgar Wright.
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Ant Man confirmed shit.
In all seriousness, I predicted from the outset that Ant Man would be the film that effectively kills (or greatly reduces, at least) the current superhero / comic book film bubble. I was beginning to wonder if I could turn out to be wrong, as other franchises step up to fill in the gaps if The Avengers series falls, but maybe my original prediction should still be on track.
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I think the bubble can burst in terms of smaller movies like Ant-Man (because few outside of comic book readers knows who he is), but I think movies like Batman, Superman, Spider-Man, Avengers and X-Men will always bring in the dope.
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Yes, but a film nobody cares about that is about a "hero" nobody has ever even heard of, so...so what?
I know a lot of people who were very excited about the movie because they love the character.
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Yes, but a film nobody cares about that is about a "hero" nobody has ever even heard of, so...so what?
Not sure where you are getting that it is a hero nobody has ever even heard of.
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I have complete faith in Marvel/Feige. In 2007, Iron Man was considered a 'fringe' character they were taking a pretty big risk on.
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I have complete faith in Marvel/Feige.
I do, too, until proven otherwise. This Edgar Wright thing is the first real chink in their armor. Hopefully they can recover.
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I have complete faith in Marvel/Feige.
I do, too, until proven otherwise. This Edgar Wright thing is the first real chink in their armor. Hopefully they can recover.
Pun excepted.
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Take it however you want.
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:lol
I think everybody loves Edgar Wright's movies so of course they'll make a mountain out of a ant hill but this stuff happens all the time. Marvel has had a great run of directors except for the Hulk movie and I have confidence in a replacement.
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:lol
I think everybody loves Edgar Wright's movies so of course they'll make a mountain out of a ant hill but this stuff happens all the time. Marvel has had a great run of directors except for the Hulk movie and I have confidence in a replacement.
I do too. I just hate that he has devoted this much time to the Ant-Man film (since 2006, before there WAS a Marvel Cinematic Universe) and now that it is crunch time, he is gone. Apparently, the powers-that-be handed him one too many notes to change in the script. Which is kind of stupid, since they have had 8 years to make all of the changes they want.
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I agree, Let the guy with a track record to make his film.
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BTW, Joss Whedon is apparently on Wright's side in whatever the struggle was.
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/news/?a=100685
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Because apparently nobody cares about Ant Man. ::)
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I don't.
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I don't have any particular attachment to Ant Man, but the fact that they're making an Ant Man movie gives me hope that other less popular characters might get movies of their own.
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Yes, but a film nobody cares about that is about a "hero" nobody has ever even heard of, so...so what?
Not sure where you are getting that it is a hero nobody has ever even heard of.
Didn't bosk complain like 10 pages back that Marvel were "shoe-horning" Ant Man into the Avengers? :lol
It'll be fine. The movie isn't going to take in an obscene amount of money (probably), but I don't think anyone's expecting it to. It'll probably perform similarly to Guardians of the Galaxy. I'm excited for it anyway.
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I think Guardians of the Galaxy could be amazing.
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I'm not particularly bothered by Marvel films. I was only interested in Ant Man because of Wright directing.
But this is the Marvel Universe thread.
It was news about a Marvel Universe film.
I posted it.
End of.
I shall now go in threads about things I don't care about and go "so what ?" in each of them as per Bosks lead.
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First look at Ultron:
(https://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i238/hefdaddy42/other/EW-Ultron-550x733_zps9f770ab2.jpg)
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Hot damn.
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Not sure what an "ultron" is, but that guy looks cool.
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Ultron is the main baddie in Avengers 2.
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And one of the greatest villains of the Avengers in the comics.
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I know next to nothing about Ultron from the comics, but that design is really cool.
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Thor will now be a woman:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvupcWV_VZ8
(Just FYI; Thor had switched genders multiple times in Norse mythology; so this isn't random.)
I like the change; I also like that a major female superhero will have powers traditionally seen as masculine.
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Best I can tell, that has nothing to do with the Marvel movie universe.
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n/m
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I bet Mjolnir makes a mean clothing iron.
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I bet Mjolnir makes a mean clothing iron.
Or tenderizes the fuck out of a chicken breast.
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I bet Mjolnir makes a mean clothing iron.
Or tenderizes the fuck out of a chicken breast.
Haha. It's funny because Thor has breasts.
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If they really let this chick be Thor for awhile, it might be cool.
But if "real" Thor is still running around the Marvel Universe, kicking ass, like that lame crap from the 90s when a different guy took over for Captain America, so Cap became the U.S.Agent...that will suck, just a PR stunt.
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This gender and racial swapping is getting kind of silly now. Are they doing it just to change things up or because they're afraid of being called racist or sexist? It's not like they don't have plenty of female and non white characters. It doesn't bother me as I'm not a comic reader, but I do think the change to The Human Torch for the Fantastic Four reboot is pretty dumb.
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I think it's really dumb, actually. Not that different groups shouldn't be represented, but it is dumb to change an existing character rather than just create a new one.
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I don't mind, it wouldn't be the first time someone else is Thor/has Thor's powers.
Let's not forget that Thor's powers aren't embedded to him, but to Mjolnir and whoever holds Mjolnir is essentially Thor at the moment.
@Hef: I believe they'll also have an "unworthy" Thor running around. :-\
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So will she be Thor or Thoria or Thora or Thorina or Thoriqua?
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So will she be Thor or Thoria or Thora or Thorina or Thoriqua?
Just Thor.
Just thinking about it, this pretty par for the course with regards to comics. Characters regularly die, come back to life, were never actually dead, were clones, fake their deaths, break their backs or are rebooted into alternate timelines or histories or whatever so I don't find this too out of the ordinary and giving female readers another character to latch onto is probably the least worst reason for a reboot. Hey, Starbuck worked fine as a woman after all. The problem is, this new Thor will probably be just like every other female comic book character in existence; huge, gravity defying rack, tiny waist the size of a twizzler, and chainmail bikini. Whatever good motives or story reasons they may have for the change, I don't entirely trust comic book writers to not pander to the sexual fantasies of their endlessly horny twelve-year old readerbase.
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I don't know man, there's been a lot of good design decisions lately in regards to female super heroes. Check out the new Bat Girl design, it fucking rules.
(https://i.imgur.com/lrPVfRy.jpg)
(https://i0.wp.com/amptoons.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/batgirl-new-design.jpg)
Batgirl's new design and the new Thor are a good start.
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It almost reeks of desperation from their part. I agree that we could use more female heroes, but instead of creating new and interesting ones, they take the lazy route and just change one of their most iconic. It's on par with how they changed Peter Parker to Miles Morales in the Spider-Man universe. I don't mind the comic book artists experimenting and doing crazy shit for like a small story arc or two, but when they change an iconic character and claim "its permanent".. I just don't see the point.
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Yeah, I'd also prefer they just create new and interesting female characters who are awesome in their own right. Same with any other "minority" group in comics.
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If you can't create a strong female character on their own, you just take an already existing and popular male character, rework them to a female character and there's already a fanbase from the previous incarnations.
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Back to the MOVIE universe, response to early viewings of Guardians of the Galaxy appears to be overwhelmingly positive. Can't wait for that one!
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I think Guardians of the Galaxy could prove to be one of the better Marvel movies, or at least one of the more fun ones. We'll probably also get tons of info about Avengers 2 on Comic Con which is coming soon, so that's nice too.
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We've already gotten more than I would have expected to get this far in advance.
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Back to the MOVIE universe, response to early viewings of Guardians of the Galaxy appears to be overwhelmingly positive. Can't wait for that one!
Back when GotG was in it's preliminary stages, I thought it was the worst possible idea that Marvel could have a for a film. Seeing those first trailers gave me a lot of faith in the filmmakers with regards to the story and the tone.
I can't wait to see it now. This is the movie I've been looking forward to all this summer. :)
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I don't know man, there's been a lot of good design decisions lately in regards to female super heroes. Check out the new Bat Girl design, it fucking rules.
Batgirl's new design and the new Thor are a good start.
Yeah, those aren't bad looking and the little I saw of Thor's wasn't bad either. Hopefully it stays that way. Call me cynical but I just don't trust the comic book industry to not fuck this up in some way.
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So will she be Thor or Thoria or Thora or Thorina or Thoriqua?
Just Thor.
Just thinking about it, this pretty par for the course with regards to comics. Characters regularly die, come back to life, were never actually dead, were clones, fake their deaths, break their backs or are rebooted into alternate timelines or histories or whatever so I don't find this too out of the ordinary and giving female readers another character to latch onto is probably the least worst reason for a reboot.
Yeah, but leave it to people who admittedly don't care about comics to suddenly care about this. I think it's cool they're switching things up sometimes, and let's face it, just creating new characters that will never have the same audience as their old ones is only one of the ways to contribute to kids reading comics having more heroes who look like them to look up to, and it's not the most efficient way by any means.
If it doesn't work, god knows they can switch back.
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So will she be Thor or Thoria or Thora or Thorina or Thoriqua?
Just Thor.
Just thinking about it, this pretty par for the course with regards to comics. Characters regularly die, come back to life, were never actually dead, were clones, fake their deaths, break their backs or are rebooted into alternate timelines or histories or whatever so I don't find this too out of the ordinary and giving female readers another character to latch onto is probably the least worst reason for a reboot.
Yeah, but leave it to people who admittedly don't care about comics to suddenly care about this. I think it's cool they're switching things up sometimes, and let's face it, just creating new characters that will never have the same audience as their old ones is only one of the ways to contribute to kids reading comics having more heroes who look like them to look up to, and it's not the most efficient way by any means.
If it doesn't work, god knows they can switch back.
So because I don't read comics, I'm not allowed to have an opinion?
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So will she be Thor or Thoria or Thora or Thorina or Thoriqua?
Just Thor.
Just thinking about it, this pretty par for the course with regards to comics. Characters regularly die, come back to life, were never actually dead, were clones, fake their deaths, break their backs or are rebooted into alternate timelines or histories or whatever so I don't find this too out of the ordinary and giving female readers another character to latch onto is probably the least worst reason for a reboot.
Yeah, but leave it to people who admittedly don't care about comics to suddenly care about this. I think it's cool they're switching things up sometimes, and let's face it, just creating new characters that will never have the same audience as their old ones is only one of the ways to contribute to kids reading comics having more heroes who look like them to look up to, and it's not the most efficient way by any means.
If it doesn't work, god knows they can switch back.
So because I don't read comics, I'm not allowed to have an opinion?
Kind of, because then you'd know that's not even close to the weirdest stuff that happened in comics to characters. (https://www.cracked.com/article_21416_5-weirdly-specific-trends-from-when-comic-books-were-insane.html?wa_user1=2&wa_user2=Weird+World&wa_user3=article&wa_user4=feature_module)
Comic books have always followed trends, and the current trend is allowing everyone to feel represented as the big main character. I think it's great for kids and may it last long. You're allowed to have a different opinion, but "OMG they're changing established characters just for the shit of it" is pretty much an established practice in comics.
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That's a good point. Let's face it, the only reason Captain America exists at all is because the trends at the time.
EDIT: I would still prefer them to create new characters though. That would say to me "we're taking this seriously, we're creating a diverse range of characters and situations". I appreciate this sort of thing is not uncommon, but it does stink of "we need to meet a quota".
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So will she be Thor or Thoria or Thora or Thorina or Thoriqua?
Just Thor.
Just thinking about it, this pretty par for the course with regards to comics. Characters regularly die, come back to life, were never actually dead, were clones, fake their deaths, break their backs or are rebooted into alternate timelines or histories or whatever so I don't find this too out of the ordinary and giving female readers another character to latch onto is probably the least worst reason for a reboot.
Yeah, but leave it to people who admittedly don't care about comics to suddenly care about this. I think it's cool they're switching things up sometimes, and let's face it, just creating new characters that will never have the same audience as their old ones is only one of the ways to contribute to kids reading comics having more heroes who look like them to look up to, and it's not the most efficient way by any means.
If it doesn't work, god knows they can switch back.
So because I don't read comics, I'm not allowed to have an opinion?
Kind of, because then you'd know that's not even close to the weirdest stuff that happened in comics to characters. (https://www.cracked.com/article_21416_5-weirdly-specific-trends-from-when-comic-books-were-insane.html?wa_user1=2&wa_user2=Weird+World&wa_user3=article&wa_user4=feature_module)
Comic books have always followed trends, and the current trend is allowing everyone to feel represented as the big main character. I think it's great for kids and may it last long. You're allowed to have a different opinion, but "OMG they're changing established characters just for the shit of it" is pretty much an established practice in comics.
That's basically the same notion as I don't play guitar so I shouldn't critique or comment on someone's playing.
If I decided one day to change Zook into a female character, that would be weird and stupid. He's always been male.... If you're confused, Zook is an alien character I created 20 years ago. I've used that name for most everything needing a username.
If only I could still draw...
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I would still prefer them to create new characters though. That would say to me "we're taking this seriously, we're creating a diverse range of characters and situations". I appreciate this sort of thing is not uncommon, but it does stink of "we need to meet a quota".
I'd like that too, but I just don't see many people caring about newer comics the way they care about longer-running ones. We don't even have a popular thread for the older running ones around here, either! I could be wrong, though.
That's basically the same notion as I don't play guitar so I shouldn't critique or comment on someone's playing.
It's more like never listening to Yngwie Malmsteen, then seeing a review about him doing an(other) album with 2 solos per song and going "omg isn't it stupid that this dude feels the need to record so many solos on one album, am I right?", when it's kind of his thing. :biggrin:
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Just for the record, I have read quite a few comics in my life, but it was never an ongoing thing cuz aint nobody got time for that.
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Same. I would really love to read comics, but I have so much other shit I enjoy doing that takes far less time.
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How much I read comics for me depends on how close I am to a comic store, and if I remember to order from Amazon. Right now I haven't ordered or bought much, because fuck I spent a lot of money on music related things (albums, bonnaroo, etc) but I like to keep up with comics.
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I stay abreast of what's happening in the comics, but I don't have the time or money to do it like I used to.
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Anyone who thinks we will have a female Thor in the comics when Avengers 2 comes out hasn't read comics-particularly Marvel Comics-for years. Marvel's been doing status quo changes with their characters that revert when a movie is about to come out for years, going back to when they "killed" Captain America and replaced him with Bucky, only to bring him back around the time the first Cap movie came back. Anyone remember how Doctor Octopus had taken over Spider-Man's body and Peter Parker was really, truly, welp yes he's dead only to revert to the status quo when Amazing Spider-Man 2 came out?
This and Sam Wilson becoming Cap is business as usual for comics. And they wonder why people who watch the movies don't flock to the comics. It's because the comics are frigging unrecognizable to them.
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I stay abreast of what's happening in the comics, but I don't have the time or money to do it like I used to.
It's funny cuz Thor has breasts now.
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I stay abreast of what's happening in the comics, but I don't have the time or money to do it like I used to.
It's funny cuz Thor has breasts now.
Son of a bitch stole my line.
(https://puu.sh/aklim/fb46a699d1.jpg)
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So my mom had a good question about Thor. Why couldn't they just rebuild the rainbow bridge? I'm sure a good reason exists; I'm just not aware of it. I mean, Loki flat-out said "You'll never see her again!" implying that it couldn't be rebuilt.
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Anyone who hasn't seen The Avengers or Thor 2 might want to skip this, as it could contain a bit of a spoiler.
(https://i.stack.imgur.com/yUf5U.png)
Last panel: 'Retrieve the Tesseract at all costs. Only with its power can we rebuild the Bifrost...' Enter Avengers. Enter Thor 2.
They could have explained this better in the films themselves, though.
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Yeah, Thor suddenly being back on Earth would have been an 85% more believable convenience had they used any of that dialogue in the Avengers movie.
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Relevant to recent discussions: https://www.theonion.com/articles/marvel-reimagines-green-goblin-as-lefthanded,36507/
:lol
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Those damned bastards, undermining the holy right-hand suprimacy!
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They could have explained this better in the films themselves, though.
They gave a nod to it. Loki asked Thor how much dark energy Odin had to harness to send him there.
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They could have explained this better in the films themselves, though.
They gave a nod to it. Loki asked Thor how much dark energy Odin had to harness to send him there.
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They could have explained this better in the films themselves, though.
They gave a nod to it. Loki asked Thor how much dark energy Odin had to harness to send him there.
Good catch. I missed that. But that being said, the fact that it could so easily be missed kinda supports that it was a fairly useless bit of dialog without some additional context. A very short dialog along the lines of what was in that storyboard would have explained it brilliantly instead of leaving what looks like a plot hole.
But then again, they probably figured they didn't need to, since the vast majority of viewers either wouldn't care that there was an apparent minor plot hole or wouldn't even notice to begin with. I fit into the former category. Noticed it, but didn't really care because it was minor and could easily be explained away by any number of scenarios Marvel could come up with.
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Good catch. I missed that. ... I fit into the former category. Noticed it
I is confused.
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He noticed the plothole, but not the bit of dialogue that served to fill it.
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I am on brain again.
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They could have explained this better in the films themselves, though.
They gave a nod to it. Loki asked Thor how much dark energy Odin had to harness to send him there.
Good catch.
Well, I've seen the movie probably 40 times, so if I hadn't caught it by now, I should be kicked in the face.
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*kicks hef in the face*
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*also kicks hef in the face*
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*tickles hef's balls*
Too much? Nah, no way. You love that shit.
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Giddy up
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Lots of great stuff came out of Comic-Con! Anybody have anything they were MOST excited about?
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The audio only of the Age of Ultron trailer.
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Lots of great stuff came out of Comic-Con! Anybody have anything they were MOST excited about?
Hulk vs Hulkbuster
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Out of the major movies coming out, I find myself more excited about movies like Warcraft, Terminator 5, Jurassic World and Star Wars EP7, because I don't really know what to expect from any of them. The aura of mystery and not knowing makes me more excited for them. Don't get me wrong, Avengers 2 will probably be the bee's knees, but I know what to expect from Marvel, and I'm pretty calm about their movies. I'll probably be super hyped once a trailer drops, but at this point I'm more excited about the unknown rather than new Marvel movies, because I know what to expect, and I know what they will deliver.
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Out of the major movies coming out, I find myself more excited about movies like Warcraft, Terminator 5, Jurassic World and Star Wars EP7, because I don't really know what to expect from any of them. The aura of mystery and not knowing makes me more excited for them. Don't get me wrong, Avengers 2 will probably be the bee's knees, but I know what to expect from Marvel, and I'm pretty calm about their movies. I'll probably be super hyped once a trailer drops, but at this point I'm more excited about the unknown rather than new Marvel movies, because I know what to expect, and I know what they will deliver.
I don't mind knowing what to expect from Marvel. It's like a cinematic hummer for me. You know it's gonna be awesome, but still have plenty of reasons to be excited. The others, could be like going to brown-town for the first time; might be awesome, but it might be shit - literally. :lol
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Yeah I know what you mean. :) It's not necessarily bad that I know what to expect from Marvel, but I look at it more as a high risk/high reward kind of thing. Few of Marvel's movies have reached that level of quality where I hold them among the best movies. Avengers reached that level, so I'm obviously excited for a sequel. Most of their other properties fall under the "solid and great movie" category for me. Marvel might have more consistency than the other superhero studios at the moment, but it's not just about quantity. For every X-Men 3 you have a X-Men Days of Future Past. For every Amazing Spider-Man 2, there's Spider-Man 2. For every Man of Steel you have a Dark Knight.. so it's not just Marvel putting out the good superhero movies, even if they are the standard against which all others are measured. :)
Those other movies I listed could very well be disappointments. But they could also be something special, like Avengers was when it came out, or The Dark Knight before that. :heart
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(https://static6.businessinsider.com/image/53d9249c6bb3f722787937aa-960/howard-the-duck-guardians-of-the-galaxy.png)
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Yep, I heard about that!
James Gunn said that this movie will have more Marvel comics characters (either on screen or referenced/innuendo) in it than any other Marvel film.
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Which one? Guardians?
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Yes. James Gunn is the director for Guardians.
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Okay. But I am a bit skeptical that that claim is overstated, especially in light of the "either on screen or referenced/innuendo" comment. I mean, simply by casually mentioning "the Avengers," "S.H.I.E.L.D.," and Asgard, you would already have the entire Marvel on-screen universe "incorporated" into your file, and with the addition of the Guardians, viola! You instantly have "Marvel comics characters (either on screen or referenced/innuendo) in it than any other Marvel film."
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I believe he meant characters NOT in the MCU already. Like that Howard the Duck picture.
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James Gunn said that this movie will have more Marvel comics characters (either on screen or referenced/innuendo) in it than any other Marvel film.
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Getting ready to see GOTG in a few minutes.
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Just got back from the movie. Holy crap! Not the best Marvel film but definitely the funniest. Loved the post credits scene.
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Yeah I heard this was really funny. I need to see it!
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Will be seeing on Sunday likely with jingle.son
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Seeing it on vacation at a drive in with the Queen! :metal
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It was just so...fun! Most entertaining movie I've seen in quite some time!
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I saw the cast on Jimmy Kimmel this week and they were fun and having a blast. Worth checking out.
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I'm seeing it tomorrow. :)
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I AM GROOT
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Rocket Raccoon stole the show! The movie is great!
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I am hoping to see this very soon! Glad y'all liked it.
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I am hoping to see this very soon! Glad y'all liked it.
Dat. This'll be the first movie in a long while that I go to the theaters to see.
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WE ARE GROOT
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Such a fun, fun movie. Groot and Rocket are like the Han Solo/Chewbacca of the Marvel universe. I totally missed the Nathan Fillion cameo. Have to be on the lookout next time. Was a bit upset though no Zoe changing scene like hinted in the trailer, and while the Howard the Duck thing was cute, it wasn't worth sitting through 8 minutes of credits
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Just watched Winter Soldier. Damn, that was awesome. Loved the Pulp Fiction and WarGames references.
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Guardians of the Galaxy was amazing. I'm not sure how much the lower expectations did (not knowing the property, not knowing what to expect), but it was probably the most funny Marvel-movie so far, and possibly the best directed one as well. I saw people say it was even better than Avengers, and after seeing it.. yeah, it might actually be just that. It's early days of course, but wow.
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No chance it was better than Avengers - at least in my book. I give it an 8/10, and rate it on par with Thor 2. It had the same basic premise as Thor 2 - good guys have super power that could destroy the universe; bad guys want and get it; good guys use said power to beat the bad guy; super power is locked away for safe keeping.
I was really impressed with Bautista's acting. He played Drax incredibly well.
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Oh, I thought it was much better than Thor - The Dark World.
The Avengers was a film that I literally waited my whole life for, and it delivered on all expectations, so I'm not sure that it's possible for another Marvel film to supplant it as number 1 overall in that group. Having said that, I think that The Winter Soldier was actually a better film, although it didn't contain that emotional impact of The Avengers for me.
Guardians of the Galaxy is, for me, the best of the bunch with the exception of those two. Just extremely entertaining, and it was 10 pounds of fun in a 5 pound bag.
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Well, it's at the drive in and their playing The Winter Soldier which I saw already after it. May still stay. Seeing it on Tuesday night!
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Well, it's at the drive in and their playing The Winter Soldier which I saw already after it. May still stay. Seeing it on Tuesday night!
You should... that one was so good I saw it twice in the theater's.
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I think we will. I want to see Lucy as well but it's playing on the other screen the same time as GOTG dammit.
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That's one hell of a double feature
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Just had a thought: if they said Thanos isn't supposed in the next Avengers movie, then why was Brolin at the Avengers 2 Comic Con panel?
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Just had a thought: if they said Thanos isn't supposed in the next Avengers movie, then why was Brolin at the Avengers 2 Comic Con panel?
Because Thanos is in Guardians and he'll eventually be the big bad for Avengers 3.
I think what Marvel is doing is sticking Thanos in our consciousness while also showing that he's the wizard behind the curtains, the REAL bad guy in all of this.
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Well GotG confirms everyone's suspicions that Thanos is obviously after all 6 Infinity Stones and the Infinity Gauntlet.
Tesseract - Asguard
Aether - Collector
??? - Nova Prime
??? - ???
??? - ???
??? - ???
Are we going to start seeing new infinity stones like every movie before Avengers 3? :lol
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Such a great movie!!! I love the humor and wit, and the action and special effects were amazing. Chris Pratt is the fucking man. I love him in Parks And Rec, so I'm glad to see he is starring in a feature film. The part was perfect for him.
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I loved the movie. I'll have to see it a few more times, but I think liked it more than The Avengers. Those two, Winter Soldier, and the first Iron Man are at the top of the marvel movie heap for me anyway.
Can't wait for Avengers 2.
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It was really a shame the movie too often had scenes devolve into really childish humor or use of childish language. But that is really the only knock I have on the movie (except the post credits scene, which was stupid. I was hoping for a bit of more valuable information that actually moved the story forward). Other than that, it was outstanding.
I never at any point ever read GotG comics, so I don't know whether a lot of my own personal questions are answered in the comics. For instance, do the comics elaborate on who Starlord's real father is? I don't want to know who; I just want to know if it is ever explained.
Lastly, as far as the fate of the infinity stones, I am not so sure the aether can truly be regarded as "safe" in the possession of the Collector. Since his collection and facilty got blown to bits, the aether is now vulnerable. And since Loki is apparently ruling Asgard in secret, I don't think we can bank on the tesseract being "safe" either. Loki's temporary alliance with Thor aside, Loki is unmistakably a villain. In reality, this latest infinity stone does not seem all that safe on Nova Prime either. Thus far, the fates of the three that we know about are very much in a state of flux.
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I think that the comics DO mention who Peter Quill's father is, but the movies may go a different rout with it anyway - James Gunn said that only 3 people know who his father is (himself, Kevin Feige, and Michael Rooker).
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James Gunn said that this movie will have more Marvel comics characters (either on screen or referenced/innuendo) in it than any other Marvel film.
I really didn't notice a ton that were not obvious parts of the story. I either missed a bunch, or my expectations were too high (or the references were to fairly obscure characters that I would not have picked up on).
It had the same basic premise as Thor 2 - good guys have super power that could destroy the universe; bad guys want and get it; good guys use said power to beat the bad guy; super power is locked away for safe keeping.
Well, since the major overarching plot arc heading up to Avengers 3 is the collection of the infinity stones and likely formation of the infinity gauntlet, I think that will be the basic premise of many of the movies for the foreseeable future. You did not expect this? And with regard to this movie in particular, given the end credits scene after Thor 2, how could you NOT have expected it here? :lol
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I think that the comics DO mention who Peter Quill's father is, but the movies may go a different rout with it anyway - James Gunn said that only 3 people know who his father is (himself, Kevin Feige, and Michael Rooker).
I just did some quick reading about the character in the comics, and it seems like a LOT of liberties have been taken in taking the movie character in a completely different direction, so I think you are correct.
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James Gunn said that this movie will have more Marvel comics characters (either on screen or referenced/innuendo) in it than any other Marvel film.
I really didn't notice a ton that were not obvious parts of the story. I either missed a bunch, or my expectations were too high (or the references were to fairly obscure characters that I would not have picked up on).
I think it's a combination. I gather that a lot of them are in the Collector's house, so they may only be noticeable when pausing play when it is out on Blu-ray.
Oh, and Howard. That was great, sorry you didn't like it.
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Not trying to belittle it, but was there any significance to it whatsoever other than, "oh, cool. It's Howard the Duck"? Was there some addditional meaning that I missed (and, yes, I know if I have to have it explained, it won't mean anything--but I just want to know if there was more there or if it was just an interesting piece of eye candy).
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I was disappointed that the post-credit scene was JUST that. I, also, was hoping for something to move the overall story forward.
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No, I think it was in keeping with the more humorous nature of this film (as opposed to the rest of the Marvel films), and a tip of the hat to longtime comics fans (like me - I remember when Howard was cool) and to further things being out there in the realm of Marvel Cosmic.
Plus, I thought it was refreshing to get a post-credits scene that didn't necessarily lead to "the next thing," but just added to the film itself (no matter in how small a way it might be).
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I was disappointed that the post-credit scene was JUST that. I, also, was hoping for something to move the overall story forward.
To be honest, this movie moves the story forward more than any other Marvel movie so far. I don't think we really needed some intense after-credits scene, to be honest :lol
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To be honest, this movie moves the story forward more than any other Marvel movie so far. I don't think we really needed some intense after-credits scene, to be honest :lol
I get your second sentence. But not the first one. How exactly did it move the story? I suppose one could argue that it was an ingenious scene that was simultaneously lighthearted and also ominous, the latter because it slaps the viewer upside the head with "Hey, NONE of the infinity stones is safe. This is going to come back and bite the good guys, you just wait and see." But I really don't think that was the intent at all. I think it was just Gunn being funny and irreverent in a way that, for better or for worse, the majority of people won't really get.
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All I know is that social media is absolutely blowing up with praise for the movie, and I haven't seen any complaints about it.
The movie, as a whole, is just fun.
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I thought the villan was pretty flat, but yeah there's not much to complain about at all.
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I thought the villan was pretty flat, but yeah there's not much to complain about at all.
I think the main problem with Marvel movies overall is weak villains. Loki aside, most of them are just "generic badguy". And even with Loki, his greatness comes from being a conflicted character. You can tell he loves Thor and they are like brothers, but he also has the bad side. Most of the other villains are just "bad guy of the week". In contrast to someone like The Joker from Dark Knight, the Marvel villains are so pale. It normally doesn't matter, because the movies themselves are great.
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All I know is that social media is absolutely blowing up with praise for the movie, and I haven't seen any complaints about it.
The movie, as a whole, is just fun.
I do not disagree with any of that.
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I thought the villan was pretty flat, but yeah there's not much to complain about at all.
I think the main problem with Marvel movies overall is weak villains. Loki aside, most of them are just "generic badguy". And even with Loki, his greatness comes from being a conflicted character. You can tell he loves Thor and they are like brothers, but he also has the bad side. Most of the other villains are just "bad guy of the week". In contrast to someone like The Joker from Dark Knight, the Marvel villains are so pale. It normally doesn't matter, because the movies themselves are great.
I agree with all of this, Loki is definitely the standout in this department, although I would also give runner-up status to Obadiah Stane in Iron Man and to General Ross & the Abomination in The Incredible Hulk. I was really hoping for more for Lee Pace to work with as Ronan. I mean, he did a great job with what he had, but I was hoping for more.
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I don't care much for Obadiah Stane actually. It's funny, because even though I hold Iron Man as one of the best from the MCU, the ending/last part is pretty lame. The whole movie is about Tony building the technology and slowly figuring out how to use it, and then over night, Jeff Bridges builds a bigger suit, learns how to use it perfectly and fights him. I can forgive weak villains in the origin movie, because the origin is about the hero, but in a sequel, you really need a strong villain. I think Captain America 2 did a good job with The Winter Soldier, but when I think about the villains in Thor 2 or Iron-Man 2, it's pretty tame.
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Hmm...I mean, Obadiah took what Tony had created, the puzzle was already complete when he simply added to it. I dunno, it's probably the comic book geek in me bleeding through but it isn't as if Obadiah is some layman, he's a cunning adversary; he's also no Tony Stark. No Stark, no Iron Monger. Granted, this wasn't easily conveyed in the movie, that Obadiah is a badass...he just looks like a businessman, but it isn't a stretch to say that the man behind the curtain of Stark Industries before Tony took control needed to be cunning and smart, and he certainly is.
I loved it, but I can see how it could seem careless. It's completely conceivable to me though. I think he's one of the better MCU villains despite him being used as a stepping stone (his full story is one of my favorites as well). But yeah, then IM2 (and for as much as I REALLY WANT to like IM3) screwed up the format with some...throwaway 3rd-string mofos as villains. I actually thought Whiplash was a cool concept but god damn it do I hate Rourke as an actor (well...till The Wrestler). That fucking accent, I wanted to tape his mouth shut the entire movie.
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Just got back from seeing Guardians again. So good!
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I agree that all the villains in the MCU are pretty lame, other than Loki. Even with Thanos I wasn't in awe. It's a shame - the other aspects of the films are really something. But not the villains. Hopefully they turn this trend around.
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They haven't done a fantastic job of disclosing why Thanos is to be feared, or how big a villain he is. That was OK with The Avengers, because the heroes don't even know about him yet, and it was just a cameo. But they could have given a little of his backstory in Guardians, since he was actually part of the film (briefly) and those characters seemed to know about him.
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They haven't done a fantastic job of disclosing why Thanos is to be feared, or how big a villain he is. That was OK with The Avengers, because the heroes don't even know about him yet, and it was just a cameo. But they could have given a little of his backstory in Guardians, since he was actually part of the film (briefly) and those characters seemed to know about him.
Yeah I agree. You get the picture that the other baddies and characters in Guardians are afraid of Thanos, but you don't actually get any ideas WHY.
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I will say that seeing it a second time had me paying more attention to Ronan, and he did drop some info on why he had such a bad attitude. The problem was that it was in passing, and not in much detail, but it's there.
Kind of like the Loki/dark energy line in The Avengers.
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Just saw Guardians today in IMAX 3D and really enjoyed it.
"Nothing goes over my head. My reflexes are too quick. I would catch it."
:lol
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Just got back from the drive in. Movie rocks. Great sense of humor but it was also great to see the team come together. Lightning was going on like crazy the last half hour and that even make the experience better!
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Do not call me a thesaurus.
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Finally saw it yesterday. My favorite Marvel movie yet, and one of the best uses of songs in a movie I've ever seen. Went out and bought the soundtrack to get those songs this morning. Just a great, funny, exciting, fun movie.
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They must have gotten my dick message!
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Well GotG confirms everyone's suspicions that Thanos is obviously after all 6 Infinity Stones and the Infinity Gauntlet.
Tesseract - Asguard
Aether - Collector
??? - Nova Prime
??? - ???
??? - ???
??? - ???
Are we going to start seeing new infinity stones like every movie before Avengers 3? :lol
I was thinking about this and Loki's staff from Avengers probably had the Mind Gem/Stone.
And James Gunn said on Twitter that the stone in possesion of the Novas now is the Power Stone.
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If Thanos wants these stones so badly, he's going about getting them in strange ways. He sends Loki, armed with the mind gem, who immediately gets the tesseract. Then instead of ordering the tesseract returned to himself immediately, he for some reason lets Loki keep it to invade earth. Which lead to him losing two of the stones in one failed mission, instead of safely having both of them, which he totally could have.
You could say it's because Loki is supposed to be captured to get the Infinity Gauntlet on Asgard, but that is whole lot of unnesserary stuff being done to get Loki captured, if that theory is turns out to be true.
In Guardians he was more straight forward however, which made more sense, and it was awesome finally seeing and hearing Thanos properly. Guardians was a great movie. My favorite of the "Avengers series" so far, though I am still debating with myself whether to put it above or below Days of Future Past.
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Oh, is the stone in Loki's staff a separate one? I assumed it was just something he was using to further channel the tesseract's power.
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Yeah, it's a bit confusing.
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There's nothing for sure on that, but since he could control people with it, I'm now thinking it might've been the Mind Gem and not some Tesseract thing.
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I thought it was powered by the tesseract too, but recently there has been so much discussion about the scepter stone being the mind gem that I eventually just sort of bought it. Speaking against that theory is of course that his scepter stone and the tesseract is the exact same color. Which of course makes it even more confusing, should it actually turn out to be the mind gem.
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Well, the sceptre was seen again at the end credits scene in The Winter Soldier, helping to keep Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch imprisoned. So I think it is definitely separate from the Tesseract. In fact, Loki brought it with him and used it before recovering the Tesseract in The Avengers, so it is completely separate from the Tesseract, whether it is an Infinity Stone or not.
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That seems like it is probably correct, but not necessarily. I mean, if it is either an extension of the tesseract or is able to be powered or boosted by the tesseract, why would it necessarily have to be in close proximity to the tesseract for that to occur? The tesseract was being manipulated from afar before Loki came to earth. I thought that was perhaps being done through the stone in Loki's scepter because the two are somehow linked. Obviously, I am just speculating, but the point is that we just don't know how these things are supposed to work. I don't think any theory is off the table.
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*shrugs*
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I read an article the other day, but now I can't seem to find it, where Kevin Feige (the guy in charge of the cinematic universe) says that the stone in Loki's staff is not an Infinity Gem. James Gunn confirmed the purple stone in Guardians is the Power Gem. The Tesseract is also confirmed to be the Space Gem (also in that article I can't find). The popular theory is that the Aether is the Reality Gem.
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I read an article the other day, but now I can't seem to find it, where Kevin Feige (the guy in charge of the cinematic universe) says that the stone in Loki's staff is not an Infinity Gem. James Gunn confirmed the purple stone in Guardians is the Power Gem. The Tesseract is also confirmed to be the Space Gem (also in that article I can't find). The popular theory is that the Aether is the Reality Gem.
Well, the Tesseract was always called the Cosmic Cube, right? So it would only make sense.
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"Honest Trailers" does The Winter Solider: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvHyk2ESFCI :lol
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(https://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Hawkeye-The-Avengers-2-outfit.jpg)
This is perhaps my favorite costume, despite the fact that I really don't like Renner's Hawkeye very much. But I think he looks pretty ballin' in that getup.
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I just saw that. Glad he finally got a costume.
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I thought this season's first episode of AoS was really good - anyone agree?
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Yeah. Entertaining stuff. Was planning on watching the season 2 premiere today but didn't have the time unfortunately.
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Haven't caught it yet, it will likely have to wait until the weekend.
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Ditto... though jingle.kids and I will be watching tonight. Funny enough, jingle.daughter is the biggest fan in this house. So, let's all agree to wait a few days before posting any spoilers.
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https://www.imdb.com/news/ni57868409/?ref_=hm_nw_tp_t1
Sounds promising . . .
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I guess. I mean, I trust them, so we'll see how it plays out.
I guess I would rather them finish out the Infinity Gems storyline before introducing Civil War. But maybe the Infinity Gems is the long play, not finishing up until years from now.
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But maybe the Infinity Gems is the long play, not finishing up until years from now.
That would be my guess.
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Also, my friend found an image on Marvel's official SDCC page when that was going down this summer, containing the titles and dates of release for the next 9 MCU movies. I didn't think much of it first, since no one ever mentioned it and there was absolutely no fuzz created. But more and more news that has come start to match it, from announcements of release dates to movie titles.
Are we two the only ones who saw this image? Anyone else here see it?
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Also, my friend found an image on Marvel's official SDCC page when that was going down this summer, containing the titles and dates of release for the next 9 MCU movies. I didn't think much of it first, since no one ever mentioned it and there was absolutely no fuzz created. But more and more news that has come start to match it, from announcements of release dates to movie titles.
Are we two the only ones who saw this image? Anyone else here see it?
I saw it, but I thought it was quickly denounced.
If I'm not mistaken, it featured a new Thor film entitled Ragnarok, a third CA film titled Fallen Son, and the Avengers 3 was titled Civil War, along with Ant-Man, Dr. Strange, the Guardians sequel (don't remember the title), along with a new Hulk film (Indestructible Hulk?)
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Yeah, it was:
Ant-Man (july 17th, 2015), which is confirmed.
Captain America: The Fallen Son (may 6th, 2016), date later confirmed, and now the reports that the title is correct.
Doctor Strange (july 8, 2016), confirmed.
Thor: Ragnarok (may 5th, 2017), not confirmed yet.
Guardians of the Galaxy: War of Kings (july 28th, 2017), date later confirmed.
Black Panther (november 3rd, 2017), not confirmed.
Avengers: Civil War (july 6th, 2018), title makes a whole lot more sense after today's news.
World War Hulk (november 2nd, 2018), not confirmed.
Inhumans (may 3rd, 2019), not confirmed.
Not nearly this much was confirmed when I first saw the image.
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I still think that was a preliminary thing. For example, I doubt very seriously that we will have World War Hulk, amongst the Civil War and later a conflict with Thanos.
I also don't see how Black Panther fits in with any of that.
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I also don't see how Black Panther fits in with any of that.
Eh, probably just a gratuitous crossover so that he doesn't have to stay limited to Agents of SHIELD.
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I also don't see how Black Panther fits in with any of that.
Eh, probably just a gratuitous crossover so that he doesn't have to stay limited to Agents of SHIELD.
lol
BTW, I am really enjoying the second season thus far, and I'm looking forward to Agent Carter in the mid-season.
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Thanos was oririnally supposed to be the villain in the second "Avengers" movie.
What happened with that?
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Nobody ever said it was definitely supposed to be in the second Avengers movie. If you have seen the Marvel movies, you know that he is in fact one of the key players trying to acquire the infinity stones, which is one of the major overarching storylines in the Marvel universe movies. So I'm not sure what you mean by "What happened with that?" That storyline is happening. Not sure where your confusion comes from.
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I think most people assumed they would save Thanos for the third one, considering that storyline needs a lot of setting up. In other news, loads of talks about Captain America 3 being the Civil War story with Cap and Iron Man on opposing sides. I don't know how you could do that storyline without Spider-Man, but I would love to see it either way.
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I think most people assumed they would save Thanos for the third one, considering that storyline needs a lot of setting up. In other news, loads of talks about Captain America 3 being the Civil War story with Cap and Iron Man on opposing sides. I don't know how you could do that storyline without Spider-Man, but I would love to see it either way.
There's still time. Maybe Sony will finally give in and agree to a deal. 50/50 is still a shit ton of money.
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There has been more and more rumors about Marvel buying back Spider-Man, or potentially "loaning" the character, so who knows. Sony as a company overall aren't doing too well, and while Spider-Man is their big cash cow, their own franchise has gotten flack from both critics and fans, and considering the situation I think something could happen.
Still, the figures we are talking if Marvel would buy him back, billions.. I don't see them spending that money. They could, but why would they? They're doing very well already and Spider-Man wouldn't add much. How many people who saw The Amazing Spider-Man 2, did not see The Avengers? It's still the same crowd, and while in the long run, Marvel's own Spider-Man saga would bring in loads of bucks, it would take them a while to turn it around.
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Thanos was oririnally supposed to be the villain in the second "Avengers" movie.
What happened with that?
No one ever said that.
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jingle.son found Age of Ultron trailer:
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x28g8nh_ap-tlr-1-int-360p_creation
Me excited.
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jingle.son found Age of Ultron trailer:
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x28g8nh_ap-tlr-1-int-360p_creation
Me excited.
It's officially up on Marvel's YouTube channel now too. SO GOOD. :metal :hefdaddy :tup
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Just came here to post that. It is FUCKING INCREDIBLY EPIC. Spader rocks the hizzie as Ultron. I really love his way of speaking and enunciating, it's perfect for a flawless entity that knows it's flawless and wants to be god. Otherwise...all amazing stuff around, I'm loving the looks on their faces, and especially excited to see dat Hulk Buster Vs. Hulk. Once I saw the OG suit INSIDE the Hulk Buster it was like..."Okay, THIS is the Hulk Buster". Screw whatever that was in Iron Man 3, despite the fact it was a 'cameo' for the suit and not the actual thing, I still remember some buzz about it being in the movie and was underwhelmed. This is what we needed...it's beautiful. I cannot wait for this shit, I really shouldn't have watched that this early on. FFFFF-
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I gotta say that this teaser not only got me even more stoked, but as a teaser it did its job perfectly. It gave us glimpses of what to expect, and showed us the overall atmosphere they are going for with the movie, without giving any plot points away. Sure, some of the story they have already given us through statements, but as a teaser this was really awesome.
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I thought the exact same thing after I watched it, Zant. It's a fantastic trailer in general, and especially for a superhero flick. Really great stuff, but now I think I might have to force myself to not see any trailers of the film after this one. It was perfect, I'm super hyped, but now I now the REAL advertising begins. It's gonna be a bum rush till May. Well...actually, after this year, it's just gonna be a bum rush of superhero ads till about 2020.
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Granted I only watched it once - but Ultron doesn't look as fun as the first one.
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If I have any complaint about the first Avengers it's the fact that the movie doesn't really have a great villain. Don't get me wrong, I really like Loki, but he's really more of the mini boss who works under orders from much bigger guys, whom we don't get to see. It's basically Avengers against an army of disposable minions. All in all a strong movie, but slightly lacking in the villain department.
Ultron on the other hand looks like he will be a badass villain, and I think he might steal the show. Great use of James Spader's voice as well.
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Extremely excited about this.
But how odd is it that we are seeing this much on a blockbuster not coming out until May, but I haven't seen hardly anything on the third Hobbit film, which will be out in less than 2 months?
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Yeah it's kind of weird how they haven't put out much on the third Hobbit. But people know that franchise, and once they finally drop that trailer, I think people could be surprised because there's not much buzz or expectations going right now. As for Age of Ultron, I feel like they did a really good job of showing us exactly the right amount of stuff.
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Vision and Scarlet Witch at 1:30? :caffeine:
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There is no other person beside Scarlet Witch at 1:30...
My first reaction to seeing this: MAWFUGGIN HULKBUSTER!!!
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Oops, I meant Quicksilver, not Vision. But, yeah, in several scenes, there is a dude with her that I am assuming is Quicksilver (although I obviously could be wrong).
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Oops, I meant Quicksilver, not Vision. But, yeah, in several scenes, there is a dude with her that I am assuming is Quicksilver (although I obviously could be wrong).
Yeah, the other young guy with her is indeed Quicksilver.
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I remember following Vision and Scarlet Witch in comics in the '80s, but I remember almost nothing about their characters. :lol
But back to the Marvel cinematic universe, we do not have another Marvel movie between now and Avengers 2, correct? I guess that means the whole storyline about Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver escaping from the baddies that are holding them captive (Hydra?) and their whole backstory are going to have to take place in Avengers 2. Hmm...
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This is only speculation, but I could see it go down as something like this:
Avengers 2 starts out with the team doing a job, and they fight against Quicksilver/Scarlet Witch (among others) and we are introduced to those characters. The job is finished with those two getting away somehow, and we get the story of how Ultron is created, takes control of himself and becomes a giant threat. Somewhere in the middle to the end, Quicksilver/Scarlet Witch realize that they are fighting for the wrong side and need to team up with Avengers to stop Ultron, otherwise there won't be much of a planet left, and so Quicksilver/Scarlet Witch fight along side Avengers in the final battle. As for Vision, I would assume he's like a bi-product of Ultron, or somehow created in the same process, and he ends up helping Avengers that way.
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Since Ultron is created by Stark in this universe and Paul Bettany is both JARVIS and now The Vision, it's logical that Ultron gives JARVIS a "body" and that's how The Vision is born (if they followed the comic origin of The Vision, that is).
I do wonder if the irrational hatred towards its father that Ultron has in the comics will be in the movie as well.
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Since Ultron is created by Stark in this universe and Paul Bettany is both JARVIS and now The Vision, it's logical that Ultron gives JARVIS a "body" and that's how The Vision is born (if they followed the comic origin of The Vision, that is).
I do wonder if the irrational hatred towards its father that Ultron has in the comics will be in the movie as well.
I have a feeling that Ultron's Oedipus Complex will be present. It was a big reason why I always figured Stark would be his creator in the MCU, since he's one of the most developed characters that's already available in the MCU and pretty much the only other realistic option besides Hank Pym to make Ultron.
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I'm curious if we will get any references for future Marvel movies in Avengers 2. Considering Ant-Man comes out just 2 months later, I can't help but wonder if they will reference Hank Pym or somehow set up what happens there. Maybe in the end-credits scene.
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I'm curious if we will get any references for future Marvel movies in Avengers 2. Considering Ant-Man comes out just 2 months later, I can't help but wonder if they will reference Hank Pym or somehow set up what happens there. Maybe in the end-credits scene.
I've heard word that AoU might help set-up a future Black Panther movie somehow.
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I just wonder how in the future - people will know in which order to watch the complete MCU movies :P
Other than release date I suppose.
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I just wonder how in the future - people will know in which order to watch the complete MCU movies :P
Other than release date I suppose.
Well, for starters, they can always watch the MCU films by their respective Stages. Really, aside from IM/IM2 and saving the Avengers films for last, I don't think you need to go in any particular order to watch the films in each Stage.
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Just thinking through something on the issue of Ultron not being created by Pym. Since Pym is not an Avenger (yet), I actually like the idea of Ultron (most likely) being created by Stark. It will create more suspicioun and fear about super heroes, which actually sets up the Civil War storyline nicely. Just thinking out loud...
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Just thinking through something on the issue of Ultron not being created by Pym. Since Pym is not an Avenger (yet), I actually like the idea of Ultron (most likely) being created by Stark. It will create more suspicioun and fear about super heroes, which actually sets up the Civil War storyline nicely. Just thinking out loud...
Exactly.
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I believe I said this before, but I also think this movie is going to set up a Planet Hulk movie as well. If the Hulkbuster featured in the trailer foreshadows anything, it's that Iron Man feels that the Hulk is too dangerous to remain on Earth, which would make sense it would be Iron Man making that decision the jettison him to space since the other characters in the Illuminati like Professor X and Mister Fantastic can not be filmed in a Marvel Studios movie yet.
Since Iron Man is rumored to be the villain in Captain America 3, that might reject my idea, UNLESS that film ends with the government passing the Superhero Registration Act.
And a Planet Hulk movie can only lead to a Thor Corps vs Demonstaff storyline for a third Thor movie that will finally feature Beta Ray Bill :biggrin:
Ugh. Such an exciting time to be a superhero geek.
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The rumors are that Cap 3 will set up an eventual Civil War for the movies. Which would be exciting and I'm all for a Planet Hulk movie, even more if at the end of a full-out Civil War movie with the superheroes beating each other to a pulp they end the SRA and... Hulk lands on Earth looking for revenge.
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I believe I said this before, but I also think this movie is going to set up a Planet Hulk movie as well. If the Hulkbuster featured in the trailer foreshadows anything, it's that Iron Man feels that the Hulk is too dangerous to remain on Earth, which would make sense it would be Iron Man making that decision the jettison him to space since the other characters in the Illuminati like Professor X and Mister Fantastic can not be filmed in a Marvel Studios movie yet.
Since Iron Man is rumored to be the villain in Captain America 3, that might reject my idea, UNLESS that film ends with the government passing the Superhero Registration Act.
And a Planet Hulk movie can only lead to a Thor Corps vs Demonstaff storyline for a third Thor movie that will finally feature Beta Ray Bill :biggrin:
Ugh. Such an exciting time to be a superhero geek.
Apparently Kevin Fiege has already shot down rumors of a Planet Hulk movie, but there is word that Hulk will end up in space at the end of the film and end up being in Guardians of the Galaxy 2 and play a part in uniting both teams (Avengers and GotG) together in A3.
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Even if Planet Hulk is a legitimate storyline (not familiar with it from the comics), it just sounds silly. But the latter idea does sound decent.
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Planet Hulk is a pretty cool concept, and it could be a useful storyline to connect Avengers with Guardians of the Galaxy. Apart from Thanos being a threat to the whole universe, you need that catalyst, a character who gets the teams together. Thor could work since he's all over the universe on his own adventures, but it would make sense if Hulk was sent to space, we get a stand-alone Hulk movie about Planet Hulk (which would probably be much better than the previous two Hulk films), and it could set up Hulk meeting the Guardians.
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I'm all
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for this movie.
I think a Planet Hulk movie would be awesome 15-20 years from now. It'd have to be almost entirely CGI, and I'm personally not ready for another Avatar-esque movie just yet. They've outlined their films till 2020 anyway, and I really doubt the fans will be clamoring enough to alter the schedule for it just yet. I think we'll get one, but it'd be way down the line. I also wouldn't be too disappointed if we didn't. I think it's one of those movies that sounds amazing and ends up being lackluster. Unless they could find a truly convincing villain and have the film affect and/or tie into others, it'd feel moot at the end. The animated films feel that way and they've got all the liberties in the world aside from the source comics. Anyway, I think I'll get my fill of smashing in Ultron.
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https://deadline.com/2014/10/benedict-cumberbatch-doctor-strange-movie-cast-862815/
:omg:
(assuming this is true)
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We already have such a cool cast of heroes. I just don't understand the push to add all kinds of other ones that few people know or care about. Do we really need Any Man, Dr. Strange, or whatever other band of misfits we are inevitably going to get movies about?
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Need?
If you're going that route, do we need any movies at all? Unless they end up saturating the market with really bad superhero films, I don't see why not. In the end those more obscure films are more for the comic aficionados anyway, I think.
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Well look at Guardians of the Galaxy. I think that's proof that even a lesser known Marvel brand can still be as successful as the big guns.
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We already have such a cool cast of heroes. I just don't understand the push to add all kinds of other ones that few people know or care about. Do we really need Any Man, Dr. Strange, or whatever other band of misfits we are inevitably going to get movies about?
I couldn't disagree more. Rewind to 2007, and that's exactly what everyone was saying about Iron Man. Rewind to the plans for The Avengers, and that's what everyone was saying about Thor and Cap - that they were characters few knew about; that Marvel had an uphill battle against Sony. Sure they might have, but they've proven they can do it.
Fiege, from that Busniessweek article back in April:
We told the Disney interns to go through Marvel comic books and count the characters. We found about 8000!
There's certainly some fringe characters in there... Dr. Strange is not one of them. I think this will work out just fine. Or better than fine.
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We already have such a cool cast of heroes. I just don't understand the push to add all kinds of other ones that few people know or care about. Do we really need Any Man, Dr. Strange, or whatever other band of misfits we are inevitably going to get movies about?
I couldn't disagree more. Rewind to 2007, and that's exactly what everyone was saying about Iron Man. Rewind to the plans for The Avengers, and that's what everyone was saying about Thor and Cap - that they were characters few knew about; that Marvel had an uphill battle against Sony.
??? Next to the X-Men and Spiderman, those are probably Marvel's biggest, most well-known heroes.
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I'd like Marvel to make a decent Ghost Rider movie, but considering the Nick Cage ones were so bad, they probably wouldn't make any money from it as no one would go see it based off the first 2. The CGI would probably be loads better too.
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Yeah we don't NEED any movie to be honest. And I don't think the status of the super hero is necessarily going to make or break your movie. You've had plenty of average/disappointing movies with the big ones, like Batman and Robin, Superman Returns, X-Men 3: The Last Stand or Spider-Man 3. On the other side of the spectrum, you have a movie like Guardians of the Galaxy, a team nobody had heard of a year ago, and that movie turned out really awesome. I think Ant-Man and Dr. Strange could be the same.
And while this is just a theory of mine, I have a feeling that a new super hero might be more refreshing to newcomers. If you haven't followed the universe before, you might need to watch 3 Iron Man movies and Avengers to catch up on Iron Man, but you could go in blindly with a movie like Guardians of the Galaxy and still have a good time. The same would apply to Ant-Man or Dr. Strange, they are both connected to the Cinematic Universe, but everyone would be going into those movies with the same fresh take.
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Paul Rudd being in Ant Man sparked my interest a little bit. Before I didn't give a shit at all.
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@ Bosk... perhaps, but here's a great article - How Marvel's Movie Risks Paid Off (https://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/marvels-risks-how-they-paid-off-how-the-studio-system-could-stand-to-pay-attention-to-them-20130501)
And...
Marvel won’t recover the film rights to Spider-Man or the X-Men anytime soon but says Marvel has something more valuable: a universe of thousands of characters it controls entirely. That means Feige can produce an unlimited number of films with interweaving story lines and characters, creating a vast audience for almost any Marvel movie. People might show up for The Avengers, meet the Black Widow, and come back for her movie, too. There’s a map of films reaching far into the next decade on the wall of Feige’s office. “It’s like looking through the Hubble telescope. You go, ‘What’s happening back there? I can sort of see it,’ ” he laughs. “They printed out a new one recently that went to 2028.
Is Marvel studios just going to make films around the existing Avengers characters for the next 15 years? Why wouldn't they introduce and develop new characters when there's 8000 to choose from?
Oh, and there's this too:
Promotional corporate synergy in the ABC-Disney family is still in the stars for next week. The highly anticipated Avengers 2 trailer was originally set to debut during the October 28 episode of Marvel’s Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D. Instead, Marvel said today it will unveil new footage from the May 1, 2015 release in its place. Another Age Of Ultron peek is scheduled to air on ABC the following week on November 9 at 9 PM ET during Marvel 75 Years: From Pulp to Pop!.
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. has been excellent so far this season.
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Yeah we don't NEED any movie to be honest.
Well, course we don't "need" any movies at all. But to even say that, aren't you just being pedantic? My point is just that I am a bit concerned with dilution/oversaturation. And I think that is likely to happen with handing us movies about second-rate heroes that most people may not even care about. I mean, I don't even know anyone who ever read a Dr. Strange or Ant Man (unless Marvel manipulated them to do so by having a crossover).
But that being said, you DO make good points. It's just, as I said, with all the crossing over into one big, overarching story, I am just worried about the good stuff getting dilluted by bad stuff, that's all.
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What's interesting is that despite how many movies Marvel are pumping out, they are trying to make their movies in a way that you won't get burned out. For example, Iron Man started the universe and while we have gotten Iron Man 3, there's really no news about a fourth movie and we probably won't get one, at least for quite some time. Trilogies seems the way to go, and while Captain America 3 and Thor 3 are on their way, they have also branched out with Guardians and are continuing to branch out with Ant-Man, Dr. Strange and two presumable movies in Black Panther and Ms. Marvel.
Some studios would have just continued to milk that one popular superhero, but I love it that Marvel take a different approach. Sure, we'll get the regular core-team in Avengers 2 and probably Avengers 3, but instead of coming up with a sub-par Iron Man 4, they somewhat retire the character for a few years to leave room for other movies, and we know he will return in other movies anyways.
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Current rumours suggest Avengers 3 might not feature all of the existing 'core' team. Could be Cap's version of the Avengers from the Civil War story line. Although, there's no shortage of speculation, so I'm sure there are dozens of theories/rumours to pull from.
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Current rumours suggest Avengers 3 might not feature all of the existing 'core' team. Could be Cap's version of the Avengers from the Civil War story line. Although, there's no shortage of speculation, so I'm sure there are dozens of theories/rumours to pull from.
It is also looking plausible that Hulk may perhaps not be around.
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I am just worried about the good stuff getting dilluted by bad stuff, that's all.
I'll worry about it when Marvel makes some bad stuff.
Besides, one reason for introducing some of these other characters is to maintain public interest (and money) once Evans, Downey, and Hemsworth are no longer the driving draws when their contracts are up.
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Interestingly enough, I think the weakest Marvel moments have been in the "sure bets". I wasn't HUGE on the first Captain America or Thor, and Iron Man 2 is probably the weakest one they have put out. Not saying any of these movies are bad, I still enjoyed watching them, even if I haven't felt the urge to re-watch them, but a movie like Guardians of the Galaxy which I knew nothing about, ended up being much more refreshing and exciting. I'm still bummed that Edgar Wright is not directing Ant-Man, but I still like the cast, and I think it will be fun. I think Ant-Man has a lot of things working well for it, because after all the trouble with Edgar Wright leaving the project, them looking for a new director and the production being delayed, somewhere along the way, people dropped their expectations. And this is still a Marvel movie, and I think Ant-Man could prove to be a very pleasant surprise. :hat
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I'm really looking forward to Ant-Man.
Hell, I'm also looking forward to Big Hero 6, even though it technically has nothing to do with the MCU.
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It's still plausible that (spoilers) Captain America dies in the Civil War film to Brock Rumlow aka Crossbones.
I do not know how likely it is, and I don't remember how many more films he's going to shoot based on his contract, but a while back I did some research on the subject and was convinced. Maybe, maybe not.
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I still don't think there's any chance they will kill off Steve Rodgers, no matter how many movies Sebastian Stan signed for. Could they retire the character without killing him off and let Bucky take over for a few movies? Sure. But when it all comes down to it, I'm 100% positive we'll see THE Steve Rodgers as Captain America in lets say an Avengers 4 and not the Bucky Cap.
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I am above and beyond excited about Benedict Cumberbatch being included in the MCU.
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Ditto. I really hope it goes through. I thought he was just in 'final negotiations'? These days, I don't take anything seriously in Hollywoodland unless it's absolutely confirmed. I'd fuckin' love that though, especially as the demented Doctor.
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It's only in negotiations as far as I know. Cabbagepatch would be a great addition, but there has been so many great actors rumored for Dr. Strange, I would be fine with most picks.
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Nothing has been reported as final by Marvel. But they have a big press event scheduled for today, so hopefully that will be one of the news items they reveal.
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Shit just got real, yo. (https://www.ign.com/articles/2014/10/28/marvel-confirms-movies-for-black-panther-captain-marvel-more)
This is nuts. We are officially in the age of the Superhero film wars. It's going to be a long war, compatriots.
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Chadwick Boseman is casted as Black Panther!!! Excellent choice!!!!
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THE EXCITE GIFS. Such an awesome day of news and yays and funs.
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So I guess we can put the Civil War rumors to rest, and probably cross Downey out of Cap 3 as well.
Good enough.
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So I guess we can put the Civil War rumors to rest, and probably cross Downey out of Cap 3 as well.
Good enough.
Put them to rest? How so? It was confirmed: "May 6, 2016: Captain America: Civil War."
And I guess we are in for at least 4 full-fledged Avengers movies, since "infinity war" is spanning two separate Avengers films.
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To be sure. I'm guessing these actors are already breathing the heavy sighs. I'd be extremely surprised if those films weren't the starting point for phasing out this 'round' of actors. That's a shitload of movies... I don't care what anyone says about actors, that kind of workload, even if you're not in a whole lot of the movies, has to be pretty straining; especially since you can't really do anything else.
I shall dub this era of movies....
THE MARVEL SLAVES.
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I can assume that Ragnarok will be in Civil War since the third Thor movie has his name in the title?!?
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Yeah, with Age of Ultron and Ant Man, the addition of those 9 means at least 11 new Marvel Universe films! With the 10 we already have, that is a movie franchise of at least 21 movies. Just...wow.
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So I guess we can put the Civil War rumors to rest, and probably cross Downey out of Cap 3 as well.
Good enough.
Put them to rest? How so? It was confirmed: "May 6, 2016: Captain America: Civil War."
And I guess we are in for at least 4 full-fledged Avengers movies, since "infinity war" is spanning two separate Avengers films.
Didn't look at that link, but the info I saw listed the title of Cap 3 as Captain America: Serpent Society.
EDIT: The pic of that title was shown at the event (and that is what I saw) but Feige was apparently trolling the audience. It was replaced with Civil War.
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Ah, okay. I wasn't sure where you were coming from on that.
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Failed to mention here or in the posted link is that Black Panther will be introduced in Cap 3. Guess that squashes the theory he might show up in Avengers 2 (as Ultron goes looking to build himself out of vibranium by traveling to Wakanda)
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This is shaping up to be awesome, awesome, awesome.
Suck it, DC!
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I'm a DC guy, and I'm still looking forward to seeing Batman and Superman on the big screen for the first time ever more than Civil War, but I can't help but smile at this Phase 3 announcement. 2016 is going to be one hell of a superhero movie year!
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Failed to mention here or in the posted link is that Black Panther will be introduced in Cap 3. Guess that squashes the theory he might show up in Avengers 2 (as Ultron goes looking to build himself out of vibranium by traveling to Wakanda)
HE WAS ALREADY INTRODUCED IN AGENTS OF S.H.I.E.L.D.!!! :rant:
EDIT: And what Hef said.
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Official concept art for Black Panther
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HE WAS ALREADY INTRODUCED IN AGENTS OF S.H.I.E.L.D.!!! :rant:
(https://rs272.pbsrc.com/albums/jj192/chuck827g/not_this_shit_again.jpg~c200)
Official concept art for Black Panther
(https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/tremontidood/B1DffjMCUAEN6Z5jpg-large_zps52c133ba.jpeg)
I swear that guy never showed up in 'Agents' :lol
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:lol
This is bloody fantastic. I still need to catch up and see Guardians!
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HOLY SHIT NEWS EVERYWHERE. INFINITY WAR PART 1 & 2.
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So, yeah. Um ...
HOLY FUCKIN SHIT BALLS!!!!
(https://i.imgur.com/PbztADY.jpeg)
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Okay, well not to throw a wet blanket on the party, but:
1. There is NO WAY that is real. It is FAR too early to have that scene filmed.
2. Even if I am wrong and it is real, why the excitement? EVERYBODY knows that is coming. That is perhaps the least surprising Marvel universe-related image that could possibly be released. :lol
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Silver Surfer is essential to the Infinity Gauntlet storyline, right?
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Not necessarily.
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1. There is NO WAY that is real. It is FAR too early to have that scene filmed.
It's 100% CG, and the full 6-second clip (yeah, a whopping 6 seconds) that I imagine was at the PR today is online. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WjBRUF_gew
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I was about to say..."film"? The whole thing is a video game teaser basically. To the Hollywood pros, doing a scene like that nowadays is child's play. I have my doubts, but I also wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it was real. That said, it seems like it is; and that gives me a big purple boner.
Nice! (https://screenrant.com/avengers-infinity-war-trailer/)
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So Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, and the Vision...
Once Age of Ultron is done, where else could they pop up in these future movies? Certainly the Infinity Wars movies, but between then, I don't really see anywhere that they would fit in.
EDIT: The Vision is basically Super Jarvis, so I bet we see him in Civil War at least with Iron Man. Possibly Scarlet Witch as well, if she and Vision become a thing.
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Bit of a shame not to see a Black Widow movie, but never mind.
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Anyone catch the new extended trailer? Not much new, just the sequence of them trying to lift Mjolnir, plus a shot including Loki's staff. It's now the official UK trailer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0caZLm_ZCs
Who's the third chick in the Avenger's Tower scene?
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Did anybody see the showing at the end of Agents Of Shield? I loved them all hanging out hanging a few beers.
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Did anybody see the showing at the end of Agents Of Shield? I loved them all hanging out hanging a few beers.
That's the link above. :biggrin:
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It's OK, he's getting older.
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:lol
F U and you links. :lol
I thought it was different, never clicked on it. Silly me. Still very cool.
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I love that split second look of terror (impressed?) on Thor's face whenever he sees the hammer budge when Cap attempts to wield it. That was pretty good. I also really like the split-second image of Hulk's hand touching Widow's...OHHH I am not gonna torture myself in thinking they'll ever do something as awesome as an intelligent Hulk in the films but it's good to know we'll see more than just smashing from the jolly green giant. I am ready for some epic one liners.
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I love that split second look of terror (impressed?) on Thor's face whenever he sees the hammer budge when Cap attempts to wield it. That was pretty good.
Yeah... and then the look of *Phew*
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How It Should Have Ended made a video on the Age of Ultron Teaser :lol
https://youtu.be/ra1sBRLRFtc?list=UUHCph-_jLba_9atyCZJPLQQ
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"I... I don't like this..." :lol
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So this is at my friend's home movie theater.
(https://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/kingshmegland/20141102_144645_zpsrlhqsh4z.jpg) (https://s583.photobucket.com/user/kingshmegland/media/20141102_144645_zpsrlhqsh4z.jpg.html)
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:omg:
That MOTHERFUCKER.
Holy. Shit. Those are some amazing statues. I'm pretty hard right now. :metal
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There are a ton more statues in his theater.
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Yeah, Legolas doesn't stand a chance against a Queen.
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Hmm...that'd be an awesome crossover. I have a feeling that the Queen would win but I think Logolas would push it to the limits of survival. I think it'd end up spewing it's own acidic blood all over the poor uknowing elf and they'd both die. But I have no doubt he'd put at least a few good arrows in it's skull.
Speaking of awesome crossovers...Manga/Marvel fans...this is a legendary moment. Keep in mind, Manga started out as basically an imitation of American comics. Outside of Japan and for most businessmen in Japan, Manga was seen as a poor representation of Marvel/DC for a very long time aside from the few hardcore fans. Now...
(Preface: Those that don't like manga, don't even bother. You won't get it. Yes, they look a bit ridiculous. That's kind of the point... Being eaten by something as ridiculous as that must be horrifying and even more demeaning and terrifying than something like...Godzilla. Cause it's human...but it's not...)
SPIDERMAN WILL BE EATEN (https://twitter.com/CBCebulski/status/529337244768022528/photo/1)!
The Titans are coming to Marvel, and they are going to fuck their world up SO HARD. I love it. I haven't been this excited since...well...a few days ago when Marvel released their movie schedule. :lol I fully expect the Titans to be destroyed by the end of this crossover, but with how resiliant they are, how smart these particular two Titans are (and if other intelligent Titans appear...), I could see a hero or three being devoured. At least the ones that aren't God-tier. Wolvy, Spidey, Iron, and Hulk could all easily destroy these things, but I'd like to see them royally fuck the American world up and it's people a bit before the Gods show up. I'd like for Hawkeye to shoot a few arrows through it's brain and then be bitten in half, that would be awesome. I CANNOT WAIT FOR THIIIIIIIIIS OMG.
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Extended trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk24PuBUUkQ
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Finally saw Guardians of the Galaxy. Fantastic movie! :tup
Chris Pratt is (https://i.imgur.com/YaVandn.gif)
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Extended trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk24PuBUUkQ
:caffeine:
yeah, jingle.son brought that to my attention a couple of hours ago. Couple of new clips were nice.
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Given that I watched the original trailer only twice, this was pretty awesome even if there were only a few new shots. I love that 'lullaby' they play, gives me the bumps of geese every time. I can't wait to see the team Spader'd. There's gonna be so many awesome lines from that intimidating mofo.
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Isn't that music a version of the song from Pinocchio?
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It is.
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No strings on me, bitches.
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Figured I'd post this here even though it's not Marvel's, it'd get more talk.
Rewatching X-Men DOFP and my GAWD that scene with Quicksilver breaking out the boys is so utterly beautiful and badass. I mean, under the right circumstances, that boy could kill everyone, mutants included. It's by far and away my favorite part of the movie even though it's so brief and he's not really integral to the movie as a whole, it's an awesome showcase and more so to the point of posting this here... I REALLY hope Marvel's Quicksilver is as badass, albeit in the different way and clearly older and more mature, I don't want it to be too...'flashy', if that makes sense. I'd like some exposition like this so we can see what he sees instead of just showing us what we would see, which is nothing but the aftereffects.
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That scene is great yet if you really think about it they basically showed that Quicksilver was the most powerful mutant they've seen... yet they don't think to use him again.
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:rollin Right, I thought the same. I also then realized it's probably more to do with his personality and the fact that he's extremely juvenile and despite a thief, probably the closest to being truly good at heart. He probably could mess some mofos up if he had to, but he's still very much just a kid with some incredible powers. It'd just be unfair and scary if he really knew what he had the power to do. They definitely should have used him more, I would've loved that, but I also see why they didn't. It would've gone over better if there was some explanation on it or something, even more awesome and hilarious would've been if one of the guys was all "Hey...Maximoff...we could REALLY use your help. What you do is ama-" and then he's gone and there's a note or something that says "Nah, I'm good".
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(https://s7.postimg.org/yffyq7aez/getfgfgfgfgfg.jpg)
I'm just gonna leave this here because BADASS. It also makes me realize how juvinile MCU's version of CA is. Urrrgh. I really like MCU's CA and I love the MCU but raaaaaar do I want to see an epic, pimple of the geese inducing scene like this in all it's cinematic glory. But nope.
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I think juvenile is a good word for him, actually. But I also think it fits well within MCU and flows well with the story. Granted, I haven't read the comics, but I can see him progressing into someone as resolute and insightful as the Cap depicted in the picture you posted. I'm welling to bet that Captain America in that picture is quite a bit more seasoned. The MCU version still feels "fresh" to me. I imagine there was a bit of enlightenment with the downfall of Shield in Winter Soldier that could evolve his character into a more independent thinker.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0K436vUM4w
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A couple of things I have been speculating about... (*****SPOILERS!!!***********)
1. The map at the end of Iron Man 2 shows the whereabouts of certain individuals, many of whom, such as Hulk and Cap, are nto a big deal. But if you pay close attention, apparently Black Panther and Namor can also be seen. We already knew about Black Panter being destined to make an appearance. I wonder if Namor will, or if it is just a cool nugget for those who noticed. And if so, will he get his own movie, or only have a more limited role? Hmm...
2. Thus far, the infinity gems are not all the same size and do not all appear as gems. That leads me to wonder about some other McGuffins in the Marvel universe so far. Could the obelisk in Agents of SHIELD also be one? (I am still a few episodes behind, so this may already have been answered...dunno)
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It's definitely a MacGuffin, but it is not, apparently, one of the Infinity Gems.
BTW, lots of details in the Sony hack about the proposed deal between Marvel and Sony to get Spider-Man into the MCU. And apparently, the head honchos of Sony in Japan are eager to get it done.
*fingers crossed*
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It's definitely a MacGuffin, but it is not, apparently, one of the Infinity Gems.
I'm not so sure. I wouldn't be surprised either way.
Related: This weeks episode was pretty amazing. ***SPOILERS*** (dug!)
-So, Skye...er...Daisey is now "transformed." This will be interesting. Apparently, she is going to become VERY important in the MCU. Is she a comics-based character that I am not placing, or is she new? I did not really care for her character early on, but I think over the long term, they have done a good job slowly developing her. She has gone from a seeming bit-role and annoying person to a major focal point that has some really complex things going on. EDIT: Good article explaining the tie-in to the comics: https://screenrant.com/agents-shield-skye-origin-powers-daisy-quake/ I was not familiar with these characters, so I cannot vouch for the accuracy of this information, but it seems legit.
EDIT2: Yep, confirmed by Maurissa Tancharoen:
We're very excited that we're finally revealing that Skye is Daisy Johnson.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/agents-shield-skye-inhuman-reveal-755594
-Whitehall is apparently dead. But somehow, I think not.
-Tripplet is apparently dead. I tend to think he will stay that way. Turned to stone and started to blow apart. Bummer. I liked him.
-Raina: Hmmm...turned to stone. But unless I missed it, it seemed like they deliberately declined to show her getting blown apart like Tripplet. I wonder...
-Ward: Apparently will survive. I like that his character's alignment with good/evil has been ambiguous for awhile and, unexpectedly, has been getting more and more ambiguous as things progress. It makes for a very interesting and complex character. But I still hate him and partly wish he died. :lol
Also, the twist/tie-in with the Chinese woman being Skye's Daisey's mother was pretty cool. I figured it out a bit earlier in the episode before they revealed it, but it made for an interesting bit of plot.
BTW, lots of details in the Sony hack about the proposed deal between Marvel and Sony to get Spider-Man into the MCU. And apparently, the head honchos of Sony in Japan are eager to get it done.
*fingers crossed*
I'm not dying for it to happen, but if it does, I just hope it is done well. And I think it will be, but just sayin'...
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So far, I honestly think that the second season of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. has been fantastic. A massive step up from last season. I am very unfamiliar with all the 'Inhumans' stuff, so it will be very interesting to see how that'll develop into the movie in 2018/19?
-Raina: Hmmm...turned to stone. But unless I missed it, it seemed like they deliberately declined to show her getting blown apart like Tripplet. I wonder...
They did show what happened to her. Granted, only in very vague and quick shots. But we saw the 'stone' crack away from her skin just like Skye, and it revealed some weird spiky skin underneath. Then we saw her real quick watching Skye from the shadows, so that we couldn't see her new appearance.
BTW, lots of details in the Sony hack about the proposed deal between Marvel and Sony to get Spider-Man into the MCU. And apparently, the head honchos of Sony in Japan are eager to get it done.
*fingers crossed*
I'm not dying for it to happen, but if it does, I just hope it is done well. And I think it will be, but just sayin'...
I'm not really sure why, but I really really don't want Spider-Man in the MCU. I have no problem with the addition of all these other weird or famous heroes, but please don't involve Spider-Man, it feels 100% wrong to me. Just like I hope the X-Men are never included, oh my god what a mess that would be..
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-Raina: Hmmm...turned to stone. But unless I missed it, it seemed like they deliberately declined to show her getting blown apart like Tripplet. I wonder...
They did show what happened to her. Granted, only in very vague and quick shots. But we saw the 'stone' crack away from her skin just like Skye, and it revealed some weird spiky skin underneath. Then we saw her real quick watching Skye from the shadows, so that we couldn't see her new appearance.
Oh, I must have missed that!
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To be clear, I don't think that the MCU needs Spider-Man. It doesn't, and that has been made evident.
However, I like Spider-Man as a character, and I feel strongly that Sony has no idea what to do with the character, so I would prefer that any future cinematic appearances of Spidey be made by Marvel rather than by Sony.
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so I would prefer that any future cinematic appearances of Spidey be made by Marvel rather than by Sony.
While I definetely agree with that, I would personally prefer it for Spidey to take a decade or so long hiatus from all live action screen appearances. He has been properly slaughtered by now, it's time to let that character rest instead of spreading the bad taste people associate with Spider-Man stuff by now into other projects.
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I agree, the character by now has a stigma thanks to the dumbfucks at Sony. I don't know about a decade, but then again that time will pass pretty quick and before we know it there'll be another huge roster of movies coming out by Marvel and if Spidey is on that roster by that time, I'd be pretty excited about that. Then again I'm expecting the worst and that Sony will cling to this thing till the movies lose more money than they already have and no one cares anymore. Human greed has no bounds.
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I don't want to see Marvel get the rights to Spider-Man to be honest, and that's coming from someone who has been a Spidey-fan for 16-17 years. I love the character, and would say he is my favorite super hero by far. But Marvel already has a stacked line-up. If they get Spider-Man, we would get a few occasional cameos and maybe one Spider-Man movie every 5 years or so. I don't want that. All I want are good films, and I just hope that Sony can pull their shit together. Marvel doesn't own X-Men, but Fox are hitting it out of the park with that franchise right now. Their new take on Fantastic Four will be interesting.
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Everything I have heard about the new take on Fantastic Four fills me with dread.
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Everything I have heard about the new take on Fantastic Four fills me with dread.
I would say it more fills me with a sense of...Doom.
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Nice.
Yeah I think it's gonna flop, critically and with the comic-book fans who aren't teenie boppers. Not looking forward to it.
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I don't either. I'm quite frankly a bit bummed out about it even happening at all.
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Everything I have heard about the new take on Fantastic Four fills me with dread.
I would say it more fills me with a sense of...Doom.
From what I've read, it fills me with a sense of non-Doom, or Doom-in-name-only. I WISH it were Doom.
In fact, I wish that Fox would let Marvel have the FF catalog back, for the simple reason that Marvel would portray Doom on screen the way he should be portrayed, and he would fit in great. Don't care about the FF itself, but Doom I want.
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I'm not worried about the new Fantastic Four at all. It's helmed by Josh Trank who made the really nice movie Chronicle, it's being written by the guy who wrote Days of Future Past, and the cast is nothing short of amazing. They have taken some liberties and changed some of the backgrounds of the characters, but there is way too many positive things working for this movie, that a few small changes would pop the balloon for me. I think FF can be the Guardians of 2015, that super hero movie nobody is really anticipating, but it proves to be a big surprise.
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I think it will be a huge failure.
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I've never really liked the Fantastic 4, always found them to be too corny. Would like to be pleasantly surprised though.
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It's helmed by Josh Trank who made the really nice movie Chronicle, it's being written by the guy who wrote Days of Future Past
I did not know this, so yeah I guess it has that going for it. But I still retain my basement-level enthusiasm for the project.
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Also, let's not forget Josh Trank got the job to direct a Star Wars related film, mostly based on what he did with Fantastic Four and Chronicle. It wasn't Chronicle alone that impressed the people at Disney, they also saw what he had done so far with FF when they gave him the job to direct the second stand alone Star Wars film in 2018.
He must have done something right.
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He may have made a fine film on its own rights. He may even have made a fine sci-fi film about young people with powers, like Chronicle.
I just am filled with dread about how good of a Fantastic Four film this will be.
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So I finally saw GOTG. Found a 720 stream online. It's pretty fun.
Is there any significance to Howard the Duck at the end or is it just meant to be funny because Howard The Duck ?
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Post credit scenes like that is a huge 'fuck you' to us in my opinion. And I hope that doesn't mean anything. I don't know anything about that character, but it seems (and looks) stupid as hell.
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Post credit scenes like that is a huge 'fuck you' to us in my opinion.
??? How in the world do you arrive at that opinion?
And no, I don't think it will have much, if any, significance.
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The problem is that Marvel has given us a few post-credits scenes that have hinted towards the next movie, and so whenever they do just a fun post-credits scene that doesn't mean anything today, people actually get upset. People are expecting something from the next movie now, and so Marvel have kinda shot themselves in the foot.
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Yeah that's pretty much it. We have had some really cool and interesting ones in the past. Sitting though the entire credits isn't at all as fun when you get nothing from it.
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I guess, but none of the post-credits scenes have been THAT substantive, either. They are just a shot that there is more going on.
I don't know, I look at it as just a bonus scene, a throwaway, nonessential, so I couldn't imagine being upset about one.
And specifically, this is isn't any different, really, than the schwarma scene at the end of The Avengers.
Of course, I read Howard the Duck comics in the 70s when he was a known and cool character. And this was just a nod to such fans, nothing more. No big deal.
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I guess, but none of the post-credits scenes have been THAT substantive, either. They are just a shot that there is more going on.
The only one that has, really, was the scene at the end of the Incredible Hulk, because it was the first on-screen hint towards the Avengers. Other than that, I agree the rest aren't all that substantive.
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So Sam Jackson appearing at the end of the first Iron Man and saying "Avengers initiative" wasn't a hint? :lol
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So Sam Jackson appearing at the end of the first Iron Man and saying "Avengers initiative" wasn't a hint? :lol
I think that's what I'm thinking of, or did both happen and I've somehow rolled the two into one in my mind?
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Tony Stark talks to Thunderbolt at the end of Hulk one but there's no explicit mention of Avengers. There's a "we" mention.
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In Houston they say that? Oh, maybe not. I'm all mixed up.
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So Sam Jackson appearing at the end of the first Iron Man and saying "Avengers initiative" wasn't a hint? :lol
Well, yeah. That.
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Tony Stark talks to Thunderbolt at the end of Hulk one but there's no explicit mention of Avengers. There's a "we" mention.
Yeah I haven't watched those first two films in ages, I've clearly amalgamated both post-credit scenes in my memory. Oops!
Ok so that's two substantive ones then.
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Keep in mind that those were the first two Marvel films, so there was a method to the madness.
The scene at the end of IM2 showed Coulson finding the hammer of Thor, which wound up being recreated in Thor. The post credits scene from the first Captain America film was Nick Fury inviting Cap to save the world, a scene which was actually in The Avengers. That film had the mid-credits scene with Thanos, and the post-credits scene with schwarma - humorous, but not important.
The IM3 post-credits scene was Tony talking to Bruce, who was asleep. So, just humorous, but not important. The one from Thor: The Dark World was more substantive, as was the one from The Winter Soldier.
I would group the one from GOTG with schwarma and IM3. Humorous, but not important.
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I love the GOTG scene with dancing baby plant. Very cute and heart-warming. I'm in the camp that doesn't mind if the scene isn't some bombshell that leads into another film or reveals something huge; but it's nice when it happens. For those wondering, the Howard The Duck scene isn't indicative of any movie at all and Gunn has said it was for fun. And no, I'm not linking you cause fuckin' Google takes all of ten seconds and I'm lazier than you. :-* That said, I wouldn't be surprised if it DID lead into something simply because his intentions don't really mean jack in the face of the behemoth that is Marvel; on the other hand, I also didn't really see any outcries over the fact that it was more or less an empty scene nor have I since seen any massive outcry for a Howard The Duck movie, especially since the original was a massive flop.
Time for a 15 hour day. WEDDINGS AND REDNECKS, WOOOOOOOH-*bang*
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Oh, I would LOVE a Howard the Duck film, but I suspect that I am in the minority.
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I would be comfortable agreeing with your suspicion. :lol No desire for another Howard film, but the increasing Marvel nuggets are fun.
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Please don't hold the dreck of that first Howard movie against the legendry of the character itself. Blame that on George Lucas.
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I don't. I just didn't much care for the character in general.
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I don't. I just didn't much care for the character in general.
That is certainly understandable.
But I don't see another film as likely. Although I would love to see him turn up as a cameo in the next GOTG film, or even in interaction with Doctor Strange at some point.
But that's not gonna happen, either.
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I just wish they would pick up the pace on the schedule. If it were up to me, I would want a new Agents of SHIELD episode every day and a new movie every month.
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I just wish they would pick up the pace on the schedule. If it were up to me, I would want a new Agents of SHIELD episode every day and a new movie every month.
I understand.
I am still behind one episode on Agents of SHIELD, so I will try to catch it tonight.
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I am still behind one episode on Agents of SHIELD, so I will try to catch it tonight.
Oh, CRAP! I hope you didn't read my spoilers above. If you know the Marvel comics universe, you will pick up on a lot of details from the reveal in the mid-season finale.
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I am still behind one episode on Agents of SHIELD, so I will try to catch it tonight.
Oh, CRAP! I hope you didn't read my spoilers above. If you know the Marvel comics universe, you will pick up on a lot of details from the reveal in the mid-season finale.
I sped past them. I don't think I know too much, although I think I have pieced some things together myself about what direction it may be going.
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I will admit that there's a lot that I don't know about the story line that is supposedly running through these movies, but I'm pretty sure that the Accuser character in the the "Guardians" movie is supposed to be a Kree. If I'm right, then I'm also guessing that the Avengers, Guardians, and who knows who else are going to be involved in the "Kree-Skrull war" at some point.
If I'm right about that, then what I would like to see-even though they probably won't do it-is for the new Fantastic Four movie to be a combining and re-telling of the first two issues of the original comic book series.
First tell their origin story right.
Then MAYBE have an encounter, or at least a brief mention of the Mole Man.
Then have that "first contact" with the Skrulls. Maybe even bring the Super Skrull into it.
Because after all, it was the F.F., in the second issue of their original series that FIRST encountered the Skrulls.
And speaking of that upcoming movie: I HATE the fact that this is going to make me sound like a racist, but I am getting sick of the way they they have to keep drastically changing the physical appearance, or even the very ETHNICITY of so many of the key characters.
Such as the Kingpin in the Daredevil movie, and Johnny Storm in the upcoming F.F. movie. Or the fact that Ben Kingsley played the MANDARIN in Iron Man 3! Der! Shouldn't the NAME ALONE tell those imbeciles that the character is supposed to be Chinese? Or at least ASIAN???
But this isn't JUST about race: another example would be the previous two F.F. movies; Both Johnny Storm and Susan Storm/Richards didn't look ANYTHING like they do in the comic books, and they don't look NEARLY enough alike to be brother and sister! They could at least have dyed their hair blonde!
It would have made more sense appearance-wise to have John Myung play the Mandarin, Leonardo DeCaprio or Matt Damon play Johnny Storm, and Jessica Simpson play Susan Storm!!!
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I don't mind them changing the ethnicity of Johnny Storm, but I find it bizarre that they don't change it on Sue Storm as well. Just seems weird.
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I will admit that there's a lot that I don't know about the story line that is supposedly running through these movies, but I'm pretty sure that the Accuser character in the the "Guardians" movie is supposed to be a Kree.
Yes, Ronan was a Kree.
If I'm right, then I'm also guessing that the Avengers, Guardians, and who knows who else are going to be involved in the "Kree-Skrull war" at some point.
Not that I'm aware of. I don't think that Marvel will be using the Skrulls.
If I'm right about that, then what I would like to see-even though they probably won't do it-is for the new Fantastic Four movie to be a combining and re-telling of the first two issues of the original comic book series.
First tell their origin story right.
Then MAYBE have an encounter, or at least a brief mention of the Mole Man.
Then have that "first contact" with the Skrulls. Maybe even bring the Super Skrull into it.
Because after all, it was the F.F., in the second issue of their original series that FIRST encountered the Skrulls.
Most likely none of that is happening in the new FF movie. Unlike Marvel Studios, Fox doesn't care that much about faithfulness to ideas from the actual comics.
And speaking of that upcoming movie: I HATE the fact that this is going to make me sound like a racist, but I am getting sick of the way they they have to keep drastically changing the physical appearance, or even the very ETHNICITY of so many of the key characters.
Such as the Kingpin in the Daredevil movie, and Johnny Storm in the upcoming F.F. movie. Or the fact that Ben Kingsley played the MANDARIN in Iron Man 3! Der! Shouldn't the NAME ALONE tell those imbeciles that the character is supposed to be Chinese? Or at least ASIAN???
But this isn't JUST about race: another example would be the previous two F.F. movies; Both Johnny Storm and Susan Storm/Richards didn't look ANYTHING like they do in the comic books, and they don't look NEARLY enough alike to be brother and sister! They could at least have dyed their hair blonde!
It would have made more sense appearance-wise to have John Myung play the Mandarin, Leonardo DeCaprio or Matt Damon play Johnny Storm, and Jessica Simpson play Susan Storm!!!
I kind of understand what you mean on this, but as far as the actor playing Johnny in the new film - he is a good actor, so if the story makes sense, that will be fine. I still don't see the reason for the change, but whatever, it's Fox.
But in the original FF films - Alba and Evans are blonde white people. How else could they look like the comics?
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I don't mind them changing the ethnicity of Johnny Storm, but I find it bizarre that they don't change it on Sue Storm as well. Just seems weird.
Right.
That's another good point.
They should have BOTH of them be played by actors of the same race.
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I will admit that there's a lot that I don't know about the story line that is supposedly running through these movies, but I'm pretty sure that the Accuser character in the the "Guardians" movie is supposed to be a Kree.
Yes, Ronan was a Kree.
If I'm right, then I'm also guessing that the Avengers, Guardians, and who knows who else are going to be involved in the "Kree-Skrull war" at some point.
Not that I'm aware of. I don't think that Marvel will be using the Skrulls.
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If I'm right about that, then what I would like to see-even though they probably won't do it-is for the new Fantastic Four movie to be a combining and re-telling of the first two issues of the original comic book series.
First tell their origin story right.
Then MAYBE have an encounter, or at least a brief mention of the Mole Man.
Then have that "first contact" with the Skrulls. Maybe even bring the Super Skrull into it.
Because after all, it was the F.F., in the second issue of their original series that FIRST encountered the Skrulls.
Most likely none of that is happening in the new FF movie. Unlike Marvel Studios, Fox doesn't care that much about faithfulness to ideas from the actual comics.
And speaking of that upcoming movie: I HATE the fact that this is going to make me sound like a racist, but I am getting sick of the way they they have to keep drastically changing the physical appearance, or even the very ETHNICITY of so many of the key characters.
Such as the Kingpin in the Daredevil movie, and Johnny Storm in the upcoming F.F. movie. Or the fact that Ben Kingsley played the MANDARIN in Iron Man 3! Der! Shouldn't the NAME ALONE tell those imbeciles that the character is supposed to be Chinese? Or at least ASIAN???
But this isn't JUST about race: another example would be the previous two F.F. movies; Both Johnny Storm and Susan Storm/Richards didn't look ANYTHING like they do in the comic books, and they don't look NEARLY enough alike to be brother and sister! They could at least have dyed their hair blonde!
It would have made more sense appearance-wise to have John Myung play the Mandarin, Leonardo DeCaprio or Matt Damon play Johnny Storm, and Jessica Simpson play Susan Storm!!!
I kind of understand what you mean on this, but as far as the actor playing Johnny in the new film - he is a good actor, so if the story makes sense, that will be fine. I still don't see the reason for the change, but whatever, it's Fox.
But in the original FF films - Alba and Evans are blonde white people. How else could they look like the comics?
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Well, I did say that there's a lot that I don't know.
You're right about how they change a lot of things, and I have HATED a lot of the changes that they made! It is VERY disrespectful.
However, Hef, you were wrong about a couple of things:
Jessica Alba's father is Mexican-American, which therefore makes HER "half-Mexican." Now I have lived in the SouthWest for most of my life, and if I have learned nothing else, I have at least learned that most-if not all-Mexicans do not like being called WHITE, or even "Caucasian!"
Also, I don't think Chris Evans is about 1/4 Italian, and Italians are not generally known for having blonde hair.
They did dye thier-especially her-hair a lighter color, but I don't remember J.A.'s hair being as light in the movies as it appears in the pictures, and C.E.'s hair wasn't QUITE blonde, and he had it cut so short that he almost looked like he had his head completely SHAVED! Again very different from the comic books.
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Or the fact that Ben Kingsley played the MANDARIN in Iron Man 3! Der! Shouldn't the NAME ALONE tell those imbeciles that the character is supposed to be Chinese? Or at least ASIAN???
You should watch the 'All Hail the King' short. There is still hope.
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It's definitely a MacGuffin, but it is not, apparently, one of the Infinity Gems.
In retrospect, I think you are correct. I won't give anything away, but there is a clue at the end of the episode that, IMO, weighs very heavily in favor of it NOT being one.
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And speaking of that upcoming movie: I HATE the fact that this is going to make me sound like a racist, but I am getting sick of the way they they have to keep drastically changing the physical appearance, or even the very ETHNICITY of so many of the key characters.
It doesn't make you sound like a racist when you wish for characters' ethnicities to be translated properly to the screen, quite the opposite.
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And speaking of that upcoming movie: I HATE the fact that this is going to make me sound like a racist, but I am getting sick of the way they they have to keep drastically changing the physical appearance, or even the very ETHNICITY of so many of the key characters.
It doesn't make you sound like a racist when you wish for characters' ethnicities to be translated properly to the screen, quite the opposite.
Thank you for saying that.
What they're doing reminds me a little of what they used to do back when they first started making movies, and even before, in plays.
A lot of non-white actors wren't allowed to play lead roles in movies and plays, even if the main character happened to be black or Latin or Asian, etc.
They were usually played by a white actor (Charlie Chan movies) and would often appear in "blackface" (which is REALLY racist, in my opinion!)
And sometimes it wouldn't even have to be the MAIN character!
But what I think is happening now is JUST as bad, wrong and racist for the OPPOSITE reason: They-especially Hollywood-are so worried about being POLITICALLY CORRECT that they are replacing as many white characters and actors with people who aren't as they can get away with! Did they REALLY think nobody would notice...?...
Hmmm...I MAY have just stumbled on to yet ANOTHER form of racism....
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But what I think is happening now is JUST as bad, wrong and racist for the OPPOSITE reason: They-especially Hollywood-are so worried about being POLITICALLY CORRECT that they are replacing as many white characters and actors with people who aren't as they can get away with!
I don't think what you just mentioned happens a lot outside of reboots (at least not as a lot as characters who aren't white being whitewashed), but the thing is, when they change some inconsequential characters' races just to be able to say they care about representation and then go around whitewashing other characters, it sends the wrong message. Why not just stick to the comics when it comes to the movies, maybe reboot some comics in a different race or gender, maybe debut some other characters of various ethnicities etc. When people ask for representation and you comply, it matters which character you're changing and why.
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However, Hef, you were wrong about a couple of things:
Jessica Alba's father is Mexican-American, which therefore makes HER "half-Mexican." Now I have lived in the SouthWest for most of my life, and if I have learned nothing else, I have at least learned that most-if not all-Mexicans do not like being called WHITE, or even "Caucasian!"
Also, I don't think Chris Evans is about 1/4 Italian, and Italians are not generally known for having blonde hair.
They did dye thier-especially her-hair a lighter color, but I don't remember J.A.'s hair being as light in the movies as it appears in the pictures, and C.E.'s hair wasn't QUITE blonde, and he had it cut so short that he almost looked like he had his head completely SHAVED! Again very different from the comic books.
Godammit, they have white skin and blond hair, I don't care where their families came from, that is irrelevant. And who cares about his haircut?
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But what I think is happening now is JUST as bad, wrong and racist for the OPPOSITE reason: They-especially Hollywood-are so worried about being POLITICALLY CORRECT that they are replacing as many white characters and actors with people who aren't as they can get away with! Did they REALLY think nobody would notice...?...
Hmmm...I MAY have just stumbled on to yet ANOTHER form of racism....
This is the first time I've ever agreed with you, I think.
I have seen this happen a lot in recent years too... It feels like overcompensating. They want so badly not to be viewed as racist that they end up going to the extreme other end of the spectrum, where ethnic diversity is an absolute requirement. I'm 100% for ethnic diversity, but it doesn't need to be forced. The world is already learning that racism is wrong. We don't need Hollywood directors/producers saying "Ok make sure there's a minority in every scene so we don't get called racist." That, to me, is the incorrect way of dealing with it. Racism only has power when people pay attention to it. All the attention it gets from the media and the general public is why it still exists.
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But what I think is happening now is JUST as bad, wrong and racist for the OPPOSITE reason: They-especially Hollywood-are so worried about being POLITICALLY CORRECT that they are replacing as many white characters and actors with people who aren't as they can get away with! Did they REALLY think nobody would notice...?...
Hmmm...I MAY have just stumbled on to yet ANOTHER form of racism....
This is the first time I've ever agreed with you, I think.
I have seen this happen a lot in recent years too... It feels like overcompensating. They want so badly not to be viewed as racist that they end up going to the extreme other end of the spectrum, where ethnic diversity is an absolute requirement. I'm 100% for ethnic diversity, but it doesn't need to be forced. The world is already learning that racism is wrong. We don't need Hollywood directors/producers saying "Ok make sure there's a minority in every scene so we don't get called racist." That, to me, is the incorrect way of dealing with it. Racism only has power when people pay attention to it. All the attention it gets from the media and the general public is why it still exists.
I know this is going to make me sound like a conspiracy nut, but I can't help thinking that another reason for it is like a form of conditioning. Almost like we're being programmed to think a certain way, and just accept it when they make those kinds of changes.
A big part of the reason I'm saying this is because it IS being forced. A couple more examples of that would be Nick Fury being played by Samuel Jackson, and Ben Grimm's girlfriend Alicia being played by Kerry Washington. I have nothing bad to say about either of them, at least as actors, I love their work, but let's face it: BOTH of these characters used to be WHITE!
What you said in response to what I said made me think that another way to put it about them thinking that no one would notice, it's like they don't have ANY respect for ANY part of their audience!
Or to put another way: It's like they think we're a bunch of mindless idiots just sitting there waiting to be programmed. Like we can't function unless they're there to tell us what to think.
As for racism only having the power that we give it: It's like they want people to focus on it more so it WON'T go away. When they keep doing things like what they're doing with these movies, I think there's at least a POSSIBILITY of making the problem worse, not better, and I can't help feeling that it's intentional.
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MCU Nick Fury is based off of the Ultimate Universe Nick Fury
Who is based off of Samuel L. Jackson's appearance.
And new Fantastic Four Johnny Storm is probably adopted in the reboot. Simple as that. Or maybe the other way around and Sue Storm is adopted.
I don't see why this is a big deal at all.
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It wouldn't be a big deal to me, either, if it hadn't happened so many times.
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I don't see why it matters at all, unless a character's race/ethnicity is somehow fundamental to their character. To my knowledge there was no particular reason that Nick Fury was white in the comics, so it makes no difference if he is black in the film.
Whereas, for example, if a character was black and a big part of their story was a struggle against racism, then making them white would be absurd.
Basically, unless there's a reason a character NEEDS to be a certain race, who the hell cares?
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I've already answered that question.
But what if they decided to do a Blade reboot, and "redesigned" the character (which was the ONLY explanation that I have so far been able to find for Nick Fury!) as a WHITE man?
After all, there is NOTHING that says that the Blade character HAS to be BLACK!
But I can't help feeling that certain people would lose their MINDS if THAT happened...
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It's not like it's a big deal, but sometimes it feels like they go out of their way to change ethnicities for no reason. Sure, some of those characters doesn't HAVE to be a certain ethnicity, but they were written as such originally, and that's the image we have of them. Take Johnny Storm for example, he has always been white and so seeing them change the ethnicity of him for the film, but not changing Sue Storm is completely baffling on so many levels. Don't get me wrong, Michael B Jordan is an excellent actor, and I have no doubt he will play a good Johnny Storm. But changing the ethnicity of him but keeping Sue Storm white, and going down the "one of them was adopted" (or maybe different parents) route just feels so weird, and instead of going the easy way and staying true to the original source, they are going out of their way to make it more complicated, only to get a more mixed super hero team, race-wise. And for what? It's like they go out of their way to stir things up by changing what we know and love, and having the response "if you don't like it, you're a racist".
I generally don't care too much about it, but with Fantastic Four it just seems overly complicated than what it should be. Either make them both white like the original characters, or make them both black. They are brother/sister after all, so the modern "twist" just screams of marketing desperation. For many situations I just don't see the point. I agree that race of many characters doesn't matter, but WHY go out of your way to change it?
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(which was the ONLY explanation that I have so far been able to find for Nick Fury!)
MCU Nick Fury is based off of the Ultimate Universe Nick Fury
Who is based off of Samuel L. Jackson's appearance.
I guess you just skimmed past that part? It's not a "redesign". It's a different version of the same character, but still the same character. And they cast the character perfectly.
But what if they decided to do a Blade reboot, and "redesigned" the character as a WHITE man?
If they rebooted Blade with a white lead actor, then there is no problem. I wouldn't see the movie anyway because I'm not a big fan of the Blade series, but if the actor does a good job as the character, and the overall story of the character stays intact, then his skin color shouldn't matter.
After all, there is NOTHING that says that the Blade character HAS to be BLACK!
Exactly.
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I like the Blade series the way it IS!
I am fan of both Wesley Snipes and those movies.
I was just making a point.
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If you like it the way it is, then don't go see the Hypothetical Blade movie starring the white man.
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It's not like it's a big deal, but sometimes it feels like they go out of their way to change ethnicities for no reason. Sure, some of those characters doesn't HAVE to be a certain ethnicity, but they were written as such originally, and that's the image we have of them. Take Johnny Storm for example, he has always been white and so seeing them change the ethnicity of him for the film, but not changing Sue Storm is completely baffling on so many levels. Don't get me wrong, Michael B Jordan is an excellent actor, and I have no doubt he will play a good Johnny Storm. But changing the ethnicity of him but keeping Sue Storm white, and going down the "one of them was adopted" (or maybe different parents) route just feels so weird, and instead of going the easy way and staying true to the original source, they are going out of their way to make it more complicated, only to get a more mixed super hero team, race-wise. And for what? It's like they go out of their way to stir things up by changing what we know and love, and having the response "if you don't like it, you're a racist".
I generally don't care too much about it, but with Fantastic Four it just seems overly complicated than what it should be. Either make them both white like the original characters, or make them both black. They are brother/sister after all, so the modern "twist" just screams of marketing desperation. For many situations I just don't see the point. I agree that race of many characters doesn't matter, but WHY go out of your way to change it?
You make some good points, Zantera.
I was reluctant to say this before, but now I think is a good time for it:
This will almost certainly never happen because it's telling the writers in Hollywood to do something that actually makes sense!
But why don't they try putting out a movie featuring a group of "super-heroes" that is either "all black" or 'anything but white" and let the MARKET decide if it is going to be a successful franchise???
Not to mention that if the movie was put out by Marvel Studios, then these characters would or could be a part of the "Marvel Universe."
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Just wait ´till BLACK PANTER turns out to be a WHITE DUDE.
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Ethnicity discussions: The pinnacle of movie discussion buzz kills.
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I don't see why it matters at all, unless a character's race/ethnicity is somehow fundamental to their character. To my knowledge there was no particular reason that Nick Fury was white in the comics, so it makes no difference if he is black in the film.
Whereas, for example, if a character was black and a big part of their story was a struggle against racism, then making them white would be absurd.
Basically, unless there's a reason a character NEEDS to be a certain race, who the hell cares?
Not sure I understand this viewpoint.
When adapting a story from one media to another (in this case, comics to film), some changes inevitably have to be made, due to storytelling methods/constrictions and everything not translating well from one to another.
So why make a change that you don't have to? Especially if it is one that will be visually different for the built-in audience from a visual medium (comics)? I can't think of a really good reason to make such a change.
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So why make a change that you don't have to? Especially if it is one that will be visually different for the built-in audience from a visual medium (comics)? I can't think of a really good reason to make such a change.
Well, there is a good reason to change the race of a character: so that the movie will be more diverse than it would otherwise. Put another way, here's the list of pros for making Nick Fury black:
- The Avengers are now not as pitch white as they would have been
- Samuel L Jackson
Here is the list of cons:
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Note that the list of cons would be different if we were talking about Cap, Thor, Iron Man, or Black Widow (it doesn't make a huge amount of sense for these characters to be black, and that would arguably make the movies worse).
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But it WOULD be awesomely funny if they made Black Widow black.
I'm not too sure why anyone gives a fuck. Then again people care about the most inane things cause...y'know...CONVERSATIONS AND SHIT.
So trite. It's all so (https://www.ironmagazineforums.com/images/smilies/jerkit.gif)
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So why make a change that you don't have to? Especially if it is one that will be visually different for the built-in audience from a visual medium (comics)? I can't think of a really good reason to make such a change.
Well, there is a good reason to change the race of a character: so that the movie will be more diverse than it would otherwise. Put another way, here's the list of pros for making Nick Fury black:
- The Avengers are now not as pitch white as they would have been
- Samuel L Jackson
Here is the list of cons:
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Note that the list of cons would be different if we were talking about Cap, Thor, Iron Man, or Black Widow (it doesn't make a huge amount of sense for these characters to be black, and that would arguably make the movies worse).
I don't understand why making a movie more diverse is necessarily a good reason. That just means that there is no good narrative reason to do so. "Hey, we don't have enough [insert ethnicity here] in this superhero movie!" "No problem, just change one of them."
But Nick Fury isn't a good example. The film version is based on a version of him from the comics who is, in fact, black, and whose look was based on Samuel L. Jackson. And I wouldn't really expect any film from the MCU to make such changes. They take the comics very seriously, as they should. If they wanted to have a character of a different ethnicity/gender, they wouldn't change a character, they would just use a character of that ethnicity/gender in the first place.
And frankly, I don't for one minute think that FOX studios is changing the race of Johnny Storm for anything so selfless and altruistic as "increasing diversity."
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The only real answer to why they would change the ethnicity of a character, or put in a character of a different ethnicity is spelled M-O-N-E-Y. If you manage to get some diversity in the cast, you will appeal more to some of the foreign markets and more people will be interested in seeing your movie. The sad reality is that a lot of people just don't care unless the movie has someone of their own ethnicity represented. I know several people who won't watch asian movies because of very silly reasons like "there's no white actor in the movie". It's so dumb, but it's the reality.
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I don't understand why making a movie more diverse is necessarily a good reason.
If you don't think diversity is a good thing in movies, then this conversation isn't for you, because any conversation surrounding the races of the characters in the MCU is going to center around it.
That just means that there is no good narrative reason to do so. "Hey, we don't have enough [insert ethnicity here] in this superhero movie!" "No problem, just change one of them."
Well, yes, that is probably how the conversation went. I don't know why you think it's a bad thing to increase diversity by changing the race of a character, but it's a perfectly valid choice to make. It doesn't matter that Nick Fury is white -- that is his character doesn't center around his whiteness in any way -- so you can make him black, no harm done. This is not the case for every Marvel character. Depictions of comic book characters are really fluid throughout time anyway; it's hard to say "Spiderman is X" or "Batman is X" since there have been so many depictions of Spiderman and Batman throughout time. As long as you don't strip away the essential qualities of the character (race is often not one of these), it doesn't matter if you change up other things.
But Nick Fury isn't a good example. The film version is based on a version of him from the comics who is, in fact, black, and whose look was based on Samuel L. Jackson. And I wouldn't really expect any film from the MCU to make such changes. They take the comics very seriously, as they should. If they wanted to have a character of a different ethnicity/gender, they wouldn't change a character, they would just use a character of that ethnicity/gender in the first place.
Sure, but again, the race/gender of characters is often not treated as sacred by Marvel comics.
EDIT: Put another way, Nick Fury was white until recently, when the comics changed him to be black. This is, in a way, the entire point of the Ultimate Universe: to reimagine Marvel characters. Why are reimaginings okay to you in the comics, but you don't like it if the movies take some creative liberties outside of what's been done in the comics?
And frankly, I don't for one minute think that FOX studios is changing the race of Johnny Storm for anything so selfless and altruistic as "increasing diversity."
You misunderstand me if you think I'm touting Marvel as some champion of social justice. Companies respond to what people want, and Marvel and DC have gotten a lot of flack for releasing a bunch of movies centering mainly around white men. They are afraid that this is going to have an impact on their bottom line and think that adding more diversity to their lineups will deflect criticisms of discrimination. That's a damn good reason to include minorities in movies if I've ever heard one.
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I don't know why you think it's a bad thing to increase diversity by changing the race of a character, but it's a perfectly valid choice to make.
Why?
And again, I'm not talking about there being a black (or whatever) character in the first place. And I'm also not talking about Marvel Comics changing ANYTHING about one of their comic characters (whether it is a black Nick Fury or a female Thor - although in both of those cases, neither one changed from one to another, these are essentially different individuals). Those are their characters, and they can do what they want with them.
I'm talking about making such a change when adapting a character from one medium (in this case, comic books) to another (in this case, film), especially when the source medium is inherently visual, so the look of the character is a key element. If you are of the opinion that the way a character looks in a medium such as comics is not a key element, then you and I are having different conversations.
And while I've seen Marvel take a little heat for not yet having a film starring a woman, I haven't seen race mentioned in their respect at all.
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I'd love to see DC put out a Batgirl movie. She kicks a ton of butt I tell ya h'whut.
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Part of the problem, though, is that there really aren't many big name comic characters who aren't white males. I completely agree with your view that a better thing to do is create more characters from minority groups, be that race, gender, or whatever. If you're creating original material then that's easy enough. If you're basing it on something that already exists and where diversity hasn't historically been strong, then I can understand why you would make changes like that.
And while in one individual film there is not necessarily any benefit to increased diversity (in artistic terms), encouraging more diversity in cinema generally is a very worthwhile thing in my opinion. Plus, as others have pointed out, it's probably good financially as it widens the audience.
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I don't know that much about the "Ultimate Universe," but I thought the first time we saw the "new" Nick Fury was in the Hulk and Iron Man movies.
The original (white) Nick Fury was a sgt. in the U.S. Army during W.W.II., and leader of a unit called the "Howling Commandos." There was a black man in the unit, named Gabriel Jones, and race was occasionally an issue. If Fury HIMSELF had not been white, I think it would have changed the whole dynamic of that situation. I'm not even sure they (the U.S. Army) would have allowed a non-white officer or NCO to lead a commando unit during that period of time. Especially if most of the other soldiers in the unit were white.
Anyway, as I'm sure many of you already know, after the war Fury was drafted/recruited to head up what was at the time a new government agency called S.H.I.E.L.D.
Somewhere along the way, he started taking this thing called the "Infinity Formula," which kept him from aging beyond around 40 or so.
Beyond that, I have no idea what happened to the original character, or what-if any-explanation or "back-story" there is/was for the new version.
But I WILL tell you THIS much: I would rather see him portrayed by Samuel Jackson over David Hasselhoff at any time!
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But think about this.
Liam Neeson as Nick Fury :O
Samuel Jackson is fine by me though, I think he does the role justice and more.
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Part of the problem, though, is that there really aren't many big name comic characters who aren't white males. I completely agree with your view that a better thing to do is create more characters from minority groups, be that race, gender, or whatever. If you're creating original material then that's easy enough. If you're basing it on something that already exists and where diversity hasn't historically been strong, then I can understand why you would make changes like that.
And while in one individual film there is not necessarily any benefit to increased diversity (in artistic terms), encouraging more diversity in cinema generally is a very worthwhile thing in my opinion. Plus, as others have pointed out, it's probably good financially as it widens the audience.
There are lots of ethnic characters and female characters in Marvel Comics. And many have received their own comics over the years. Some have been successful, and some haven't.
The MCU has featured several black characters in prominent roles already in film (War Machine/Iron Patriot, Falcon) a starring role is on the way (Black Panther), and another, Luke Cage, will be getting his own Netflix show.
I am all for diversity, but there are already diverse characters. And I already had no confidence in Fox, because unlike Marvel, their focus has never been on telling the best stories. If changing Johnny Storm to a young black male was the only change they were making to the Fantastic Four, that might be one thing, but it isn't. This will apparently not be a faithful adaptation whatsoever. So I guess I shouldn't be shocked that they would make this kind of pointless change, amongst the other pointless changes they are making.
And again, this has nothing to do with Nick Fury. Separate situation.
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There are lots of ethnic characters and female characters in Marvel Comics. And many have received their own comics over the years. Some have been successful, and some haven't.
Oh I know, I said big name characters. For sure they can give more prominent roles to other ethnic characters as well.
I am all for diversity, but there are already diverse characters. And I already had no confidence in Fox, because unlike Marvel, their focus has never been on telling the best stories. If changing Johnny Storm to a young black male was the only change they were making to the Fantastic Four, that might be one thing, but it isn't. This will apparently not be a faithful adaptation whatsoever. So I guess I shouldn't be shocked that they would make this kind of pointless change, amongst the other pointless changes they are making.
And again, this has nothing to do with Nick Fury. Separate situation.
Good point. I'm not saying characters should change gender or ethnicity willy-nilly, and for sure Fox is probably less reliable at that sort of thing. Just explaining why I have nothing in principle against those sorts of changes (within reason) as long as the storytelling is good and the characters make sense.
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I'm talking about making such a change when adapting a character from one medium (in this case, comic books) to another (in this case, film), especially when the source medium is inherently visual, so the look of the character is a key element. If you are of the opinion that the way a character looks in a medium such as comics is not a key element, then you and I are having different conversations.
As I see it there are a two distinct elements at play here.
1) First of all, as I've already mentioned, comic books tend not to be overly restrictive or to have too much ownership about character races/appearances anyway. Characters are often reimagined either intentionally (e.g. the Nick Fury -> Samuel L. Jackson transformation) or subconsciously (the characters are drawn by many artists over the course of their publication histories, all of whom have different styles or ideas about how these characters look or ought to look). If Iron Man always looked exactly the same in every single issue of every single series since the beginning of time, and the community surrounding comics were proud of this rigid, static, constant idea of character identity, that would be a different thing, and then I would be more concerned with these film adaptations that were trying to change characters fundamentally. However, this is not that community, and for decades, there have always been these reimaginings and reformulations of the same stories.
Movie adaptations play into this. Marvel movies are a somewhat newer thing, but if you cross over into Batman-land, you'll see that there are a lot of takes on Batman. You've got the campy Batman from the old TV show, the series of movies in the 80's and 90's that all sat in different places on the dark<---->campy continuum, and the recent Nolan trilogy that was pretty firmly rooted in a dark, gritty realism and plays on a lot of modern issues (terrorism, violence in American cities, and so on and so forth). Wildly different movies, wildly different aesthetics, wildly different scripts/themes, and you've got a few different actors with wildly different appearances to boot, and yet all of these Batmen are still Batman. They're all just differing takes on Batman, and we've always had the idea that comics are a place where it's okay to have different takes on what is still fundamentally the same character. This gives me no reason to believe that anyone in the world should be offended by casting a black actor in the role of a superhero who's been traditionally white (as long as, again, the casting doesn't make the movie nonsensical).
2) There's also a discussion to be had about how faithful a movie adaptation really needs to be to the comics anyway. Comic book movies tend to draw from a particular storyline in a particular series, may recreate famous scenes from particular issues, and will tend to draw from the comics for guidance regarding major plot points, but to my knowledge -- and correct me if I'm wrong -- no comic book movie has been a shot-for-shot remake of any series of comics, nor do comic book movies in general try to mimic the tone or visual style of any particular series. The race of your characters seems like a weird thing to latch onto in this regard; if we're going to complain about the visual incongruity between the movies and the comics made by casting someone black, it seems like there's a hell of a lot of stuff you should be complaining about before that, like the fact that everything looks totally different and all the dialogue is made up. To skip over all of that and focus on race seems disingenuous, especially when -- as we all agree -- it doesn't really matter whether most Marvel characters are black or white.
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1) First of all, as I've already mentioned, comic books tend not to be overly restrictive or to have too much ownership about character races/appearances anyway. Characters are often reimagined either intentionally (e.g. the Nick Fury -> Samuel L. Jackson transformation) or subconsciously (the characters are drawn by many artists over the course of their publication histories, all of whom have different styles or ideas about how these characters look or ought to look). If Iron Man always looked exactly the same in every single issue of every single series since the beginning of time, and the community surrounding comics were proud of this rigid, static, constant idea of character identity, that would be a different thing, and then I would be more concerned with these film adaptations that were trying to change characters fundamentally. However, this is not that community, and for decades, there have always been these reimaginings and reformulations of the same stories.
You are conflating multiple things. The differences in the look of Iron Man are due to the differences in the way that different artists draw, and different suits of armor created by the character. Tony Stark has always been a white man with dark hair and a mustache. The character has always been the character. His hairstyle may have been drawn various ways over the year allowing for different trends/what looks cool/different artists, but you can always look at Iron Man or Tony Stark and say "That's Iron Man" or "That's Tony Stark."
Movie adaptations play into this. Marvel movies are a somewhat newer thing, but if you cross over into Batman-land, you'll see that there are a lot of takes on Batman. You've got the campy Batman from the old TV show, the series of movies in the 80's and 90's that all sat in different places on the dark<---->campy continuum, and the recent Nolan trilogy that was pretty firmly rooted in a dark, gritty realism and plays on a lot of modern issues (terrorism, violence in American cities, and so on and so forth). Wildly different movies, wildly different aesthetics, wildly different scripts/themes, and you've got a few different actors with wildly different appearances to boot, and yet all of these Batmen are still Batman. They're all just differing takes on Batman, and we've always had the idea that comics are a place where it's okay to have different takes on what is still fundamentally the same character. This gives me no reason to believe that anyone in the world should be offended by casting a black actor in the role of a superhero who's been traditionally white (as long as, again, the casting doesn't make the movie nonsensical).
And no matter what new take was taken on the mythos, Bruce Wayne was always a rich white man whose parents were murdered in front of him as a boy, and whose motivations (and neuroses) grew from that.
Comic book movies tend to draw from a particular storyline in a particular series, may recreate famous scenes from particular issues, and will tend to draw from the comics for guidance regarding major plot points, but to my knowledge -- and correct me if I'm wrong -- no comic book movie has been a shot-for-shot remake of any series of comics, nor do comic book movies in general try to mimic the tone or visual style of any particular series.
Depends. Frank Miller's take on Batman definitely had an impact on the tone of Burton's Batman films, and his story Batman:Year One reads like the script for Nolan's Batman Begins. And the Sin City films really are almost panel-for-panel reproductions from the comic page.
But there are always changes made when adapting stories from one medium to another. Doesn't matter if it is going from a novel to the screen, or the comic page to the screen. Different things work in some mediums that don't in others. Whether it is conflation of multiple storylines together, to condensation of a particular storyline for purposes of running time, or wholesale narrative changes (see Peter Jackson's LOTR trilogy), or even changes to the way things look - sometimes something looks great in the context of a two-dimensional handdrawn comic page, but can look bulky, cheesy, or just ridiculous if "faithfully" reproduced in real life.
The race of your characters seems like a weird thing to latch onto in this regard; if we're going to complain about the visual incongruity between the movies and the comics made by casting someone black, it seems like there's a hell of a lot of stuff you should be complaining about before that, like the fact that everything looks totally different and all the dialogue is made up. To skip over all of that and focus on race seems disingenuous, especially when -- as we all agree -- it doesn't really matter whether most Marvel characters are black or white.
Well, I just gave of list of common changes. But race is not ever one of those things that need to be changed in adaptation. There may be good reasons to change a character's costume, but there is no narrative reason to change the race. That's all I'm saying. There might be legitimate reasons to make all kinds of changes in adaptation, but the race of a character is not really one of those things.
I come to the films as a fan first of these characters I loved from comics. I understand that some changes need to be made, but given that, I hope for as faithful a translation as possible, because the love of the characters and stories comes from the comics. So willy-nilly changes for no reason bother me, as they rarely do good things for the film concerned. Which is one reason, I think, that the Marvel films have succeeded. They don't shy away from things in the comics, they are faithful translations in the essences of the characters.
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There may be good reasons to change a character's costume, but there is no narrative reason to change the race.
Well, there could be depending on the narrative, but yeah I doubt that's usually the reason.
However, there's also often no narrative reason NOT to change the race either. Sometimes there is (Batman being a middle class white boy being a good example) so changes there would be weird, but other times it makes no difference. Sometimes Bane is white, sometimes he's hispanic. Doesn't matter.
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***AoS SPOILERS***
I love all the fan speculation now about how AoS is going to develop all kinds of cool back-story for the Inhumans and such. I actually think it will be quite the opposite. Now that they have let the cat out of the bag TO THE AUDIENCE, there is so much buzz about the show that they can let that storyline rest and go a completely different direction. I would guess that that is exactly what they will do. I think it is silly to expect to see Quake using her newfound powers and kicking butt all over the Marvel Universe. In fact, I think there are pretty good hints that she will not. First off, Cal planted the seed in her mind that others will fear and not understand her, which would very likely make her unwilling to use and show off her powers. Second, she undoubtedly feels guilty about Trip's death, which, again, will likely lead to her hiding her power. Third, other than Raina, no living AoS character specifically knows about her transformation. Yeah, Cal knew that it was going to happen, but he does not know the specifics of what happened. Raina is a different story, but I think she also will go "underground" (for reasons that have nothing to do with anything other than the fact that the show's producers do not NEED to use her much in the immediate future).
I could be wrong, but here is what I think will happen: There will be very SLOW and SPORADIC use of the Inhumans angle in AoS for quite some time. Sure, we will get situations where Quake is placed in difficult quandaries about whether to reveal herself, and there will undoubtedly be some stuff going on beneath the surface. But I would expect things to be relatively quiet on the Inhumans front for a year or so and not start to ramp up until Age of Ultron is well in the rearview mirror and Infinity Wars draws a bit closer.
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I don't know how they expect to run a single story-line through a bunch of movies, with the amount of time they're taking to get each movie out.
The actors will become too old to be believable as the characters they're portraying, the audience will become bored and lose interest, and key people involved on BOTH sides of the camera might not even LIVE long enough to see the project completed!
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The last movie is only about 3 1/2 years away. That is not very long. And I think the cast of characters will evolve, as it has thus far. The Avengers roll of members changed constantly in the comics. I expect that we will see (and are seeing) the same thing here. I mean, we already know that we will see three new Avengers in Age of Ultron, and it looks like they will lose Hulk by the end of the film, so the team is in flux already. And two other potential future Avengers have been introduced in AoS. Looks like they are following the same pattern as in the comics.
So far, they have been doing an excellent job of running common story-lines through the movies and TV series (several key story-lines; not just a single one). I see no reason why they should not be able to continue that successfully.
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I know they're planning to bring Quicksilver into the next (or third) Avengers movie.
How many more movies are planned to be a part of this story?
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11 more that we know of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Marvel_Cinematic_Universe_films
(and I guess the last is 4 1/2 years off; not 3 1/2. But still)
10 so far, and 1 1/2 seasons of the TV series, and they have done a splendid job with continuity through that.
And Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, and Vision are all in the next movie. Quake and Mockingbird could potentially cross over from AoS and join the team and some point in the future as well, since both were Avengers in the comics. EDIT: Not to mention that we know of three other comics Avengers to have scheduled movies (Ant Man, Black Panther, and Captain Marvel), and that Namor has at least been referenced as well. AND we have War Machine. AND there is the rumored work in Spider Man making an appearance. I mean, the possibilities are endless.
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Another 1.5 seasons? Does that mean it's been renewed for a third season? Or are you including Agent Carter in that?
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I'd be really sad if AoS doesn't get renewed. They have really stepped up their game, to become something actually important in the grand scale of things.
I could be wrong, but here is what I think will happen: There will be very SLOW and SPORADIC use of the Inhumans angle in AoS for quite some time. Sure, we will get situations where Quake is placed in difficult quandaries about whether to reveal herself, and there will undoubtedly be some stuff going on beneath the surface. But I would expect things to be relatively quiet on the Inhumans front for a year or so and not start to ramp up until Age of Ultron is well in the rearview mirror and Infinity Wars draws a bit closer.
Yeah this seems pretty reasonable, since the Inhumans movie isn't even until after the first Infinity War.
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Another 1.5 seasons? Does that mean it's been renewed for a third season? Or are you including Agent Carter in that?
It hasn't been renewed yet.
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Another 1.5 seasons? Does that mean it's been renewed for a third season? Or are you including Agent Carter in that?
No, I said there has been 1 1/2 seasons already. But they have done well, so I would hope the series will continue.
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I could be wrong, but here is what I think will happen: There will be very SLOW and SPORADIC use of the Inhumans angle in AoS for quite some time. Sure, we will get situations where Quake is placed in difficult quandaries about whether to reveal herself, and there will undoubtedly be some stuff going on beneath the surface. But I would expect things to be relatively quiet on the Inhumans front for a year or so and not start to ramp up until Age of Ultron is well in the rearview mirror and Infinity Wars draws a bit closer.
Yeah this seems pretty reasonable, since the Inhumans movie isn't even until after the first Infinity War.
And I meant to say this in my previous post: I also think that Quake will NOT reveal herself to the team and that the team will have no idea about her powers, at least for awhile. I think we are going to see her hiding it and just trying to understand and cope with what is going on. And it will be easy for her to hide it because, again, the only living person to know she was actually transformed is Raina. And nobody else, and perhaps not even Raina, knows that Quake caused the earthquake rather than it being caused by the obelisk or something else. I think she will play it off as though she has no idea what caused it (and it is possible that even she does not even realize that it was her).
EDIT: Just found some quotes from the shows creators that seems to imply something along the lines of what I was suggesting:
Zap2it: In Season 1 your tagline was "Not all heroes are super," but now we do have a superhero as a main character. How does that change the DNA of the show?
Jed Whedon: We don't necessarily have a superhero yet; we have someone who's going through a change that she doesn't understand that's tied to the death of one of her favorite people. So right now we're dealing with what happens if you take a regular person and put them through that change.
Maurissa Tancharoen: We've spent a season and a half with Skye, seeing her evolve as a person and as an agent and grown to like her as who she is as just a normal woman. Now we're launching essentially the beginning of her origin story, and it's going to be filled with very complex and heavy emotion, because in the moment where she has changed, she's also witnessing Trip's death. We're going to make it a very complicated journey for her. We may not just be diving into, "OK, now I have powers." It's: What does that mean? Do I want this? How does that affect the relationships around her?
https://www.zap2it.com/blogs/agents_of_shield_season_2_fall_finale_daisy_johnson_raina_inhumans_whedon_interview-2014-12
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Another 1.5 seasons? Does that mean it's been renewed for a third season? Or are you including Agent Carter in that?
No, I said there has been 1 1/2 seasons already. But they have done well, so I would hope the series will continue.
Ah yes, I misread your post, I thought you were talking about upcoming films.
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Another 1.5 seasons? Does that mean it's been renewed for a third season? Or are you including Agent Carter in that?
No, I said there has been 1 1/2 seasons already. But they have done well, so I would hope the series will continue.
Ah yes, I misread your post, I thought you were talking about upcoming films.
Well, to be fair, since all of this has me acting like a giddy school-kid, it may very well be that my posts aren't nearly as coherent as I think they are. :lol
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Yeah, let's go with that. :justjen
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And nobody else, and perhaps not even Raina, knows that Quake caused the earthquake rather than it being caused by the obelisk or something else. I think she will play it off as though she has no idea what caused it (and it is possible that even she does not even realize that it was her).
Heck, even I didn't know until right now.
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And nobody else, and perhaps not even Raina, knows that Quake caused the earthquake rather than it being caused by the obelisk or something else. I think she will play it off as though she has no idea what caused it (and it is possible that even she does not even realize that it was her).
Heck, even I didn't know until right now.
Well, if you know that Daisy = Daisy Johnson (aka Quake), it is fairly obvious that since the quake starts right when she looks at Trip and clenches her fists, that it was her. :lol
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Haha yeah I guess. But here on this page is actually the first time I remember hearing the name 'Quake' or gain any insight as to what exactly her powers are, so I had no idea.
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Haha yeah I guess. But here on this page is actually the first time I remember hearing the name 'Quake' or gain any insight as to what exactly her powers are, so I had no idea.
I did not know the character myself (I was never an Inhumans fan), but I knew the names Daisy and Cal were significant, so I Googled them. There are a ton of articles out there about it. People who know the characters figured it out immediately once the names were given (and some had picked up on enough of the clues to have figured it out the week before).
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Saw this fact in my newsfeed from 'WTF FACTS'....."Due to his cameos in the Marvel movies, Stan Lee is the 4th highest grossing actor of all times"
That's interesting.
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It feels like overcompensating. They want so badly not to be viewed as racist that they end up going to the extreme other end of the spectrum, where ethnic diversity is an absolute requirement. I'm 100% for ethnic diversity, but it doesn't need to be forced. The world is already learning that racism is wrong. We don't need Hollywood directors/producers saying "Ok make sure there's a minority in every scene so we don't get called racist."
Sorry to restart this discussion days later, but you're aware that there are a lot more minority people in every scene of your life than there are in the movies? This "forced" amount of diversity is still way off the real thing, which is near 30% of non-white people in America. If you make your movies way more white than the real world, that my friend really is racism, what else could it be? Why are created worlds whiter than our real world? It's a subconscious thing, but movies play an important part in shaping our consciousness, so it's a chicken and egg situation that spills out into the real world and makes people all sorts of fucked in the head.
And I don't really agree about increasing diversity being about making money in foreign markets, the rest of the world goes out to see white male American characters all the time, because your culture is global and we swallow it whole as universal even when it doesn't include us. It's just that minorities in the USA feel that they should include them, and for a good reason. People in India wear cowboy outfits, people in China have posters of Iron Man on the walls in their bedrooms. It's the other way around - you guys don't give a damn about foreign movies and cultures even when they're white and French, let alone Asian or Latin American. People in every country in the world see more American movies than movies made on their own country or even continent, and that's just the way it is.
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It feels like overcompensating. They want so badly not to be viewed as racist that they end up going to the extreme other end of the spectrum, where ethnic diversity is an absolute requirement. I'm 100% for ethnic diversity, but it doesn't need to be forced. The world is already learning that racism is wrong. We don't need Hollywood directors/producers saying "Ok make sure there's a minority in every scene so we don't get called racist."
It's the other way around - you guys don't give a damn about foreign movies and cultures even when they're white and French, let alone Asian or Latin American.
Haha, you almost got me with that one.
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It feels like overcompensating. They want so badly not to be viewed as racist that they end up going to the extreme other end of the spectrum, where ethnic diversity is an absolute requirement. I'm 100% for ethnic diversity, but it doesn't need to be forced. The world is already learning that racism is wrong. We don't need Hollywood directors/producers saying "Ok make sure there's a minority in every scene so we don't get called racist."
Sorry to restart this discussion days later, but you're aware that there are a lot more minority people in every scene of your life than there are in the movies? This "forced" amount of diversity is still way off the real thing, which is near 30% of non-white people in America. If you make your movies way more white than the real world, that my friend really is racism, what else could it be? Why are created worlds whiter than our real world? It's a subconscious thing, but movies play an important part in shaping our consciousness, so it's a chicken and egg situation that spills out into the real world and makes people all sorts of fucked in the head.
And I don't really agree about increasing diversity being about making money in foreign markets, the rest of the world goes out to see white male American characters all the time, because your culture is global and we swallow it whole as universal even when it doesn't include us. It's just that minorities in the USA feel that they should include them, and for a good reason. People in India wear cowboy outfits, people in China have posters of Iron Man on the walls in their bedrooms. It's the other way around - you guys don't give a damn about foreign movies and cultures even when they're white and French, let alone Asian or Latin American. People in every country in the world see more American movies than movies made on their own country or even continent, and that's just the way it is.
Mora, you say that movies are racist because they mostly feature white people (at least the American hits.) I agree that movies clearly don't represent how people really are, even as they would be in fantastic situations. Almost nobody is as good-looking as movie protagonists, males don't need to be a solid 6' to be considered hot stuff, women don't need perfect skin and vivacious hairstyles every moment of the day, etc.. A high percentage of people are overweight (I forget if its the majority), but you never see two overweight people engaged in a spicy romance (unless its a romantic comedy...or it's the very premise of the movie, like Shallow Hal). And minorities are not well-represented in film, I'll give you that.
All that said...is it really as evil as you are making it sound? After all, a film is the director's piece of art. He can shape it as he wishes. If he wants to construct a white fantasy world, he has that prerogative as an artist. Take Lord of the Rings, for instance, where no one is non-white. But a non-white person just wouldn't fit into the image Tolkein had for the universe, so Jackson didn't use any non-white actors.
Granted, I agree there is at least some element of racism. I do think that artists are not free to make any artistic statement they wish without fear of just condemnation from social activists. I just think you might be overstating your case. I could be wrong; it's an interesting topic and I don't know much about it, so I'm open to being corrected.
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you guys don't give a damn about foreign movies and cultures even when they're white and French, let alone Asian or Latin American. People in every country in the world see more American movies than movies made on their own country or even continent, and that's just the way it is.
Boy, you gotta love that stouthearted speech and then just shitting it all away at the end with a massive generalization of an entire country and shoving your own assumptions onto them; moreover, blindly thinking that you're right. Then you go for gold and make a blanket statement about the entire world... This little quote here just made the rest of what you said totally defunct in my eyes. If you're gonna start preaching, try not to completely backtrack with another form of what seems to be pretty extreme discrimination against an entire country. Good stuff though; I don't have a dog in what seems to be a completely pointless fight, but I just had to point this bit out cause it's full of hypocrisy at its finest. Granted, I'm not trying to put down you personally, Mora; but that shit cray, for real, yo.
Anyway, I just got back from my weekly KKK meeting and we all agreed that Black Panther should be White Panther. Also I threw away all my beloved and highly praised Korean crime films because of a few foolish, deranged hackers. That's all! I gotta go find my house boy, that bathroom is NASTY.
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https://marvel.com/news/tv/23866/mike_colter_to_star_as_luke_cage_in_marvels_aka_jessica_jones
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Saw that earlier and thought that he should be white.
But srsly, I don't know the actor so I'm not affected at all besides the thought of "cool, looks like the character". I'll watch the show for the rest.
I started my viewing of Shield and I'm unimpressed and bored. I hope it gets better and from what I've heard it does but...thus far it's the same old network television BS that turned me off from TV entirely to begin with (well, it's not as bad as the laugh-track sitcoms but...it's nearing that league at this point, which is still only the third episode...starting the fourth now).
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I started my viewing of Shield and I'm unimpressed and bored. I hope it gets better and from what I've heard it does but...thus far it's the same old network television BS that turned me off from TV entirely to begin with (well, it's not as bad as the laugh-track sitcoms but...it's nearing that league at this point, which is still only the third episode...starting the fourth now).
Season 1 is kind of all over the place. It starts to find its way toward the end of the season. It seemed as thought it was just treading water and trying to find its way through most of the first season. But IMO, once you get to the end of season 1, the last few episodes and the first half (so far) of season 2 are really good. Stick with the bland stuff. The basic character and plot info makes the season 2 payoff better if you slog through it.
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Good stuff, that's what I've heard almost unanimously, so that's good to hear! I've had a few shows that start off slow and plodding and eventually become awesome, so I'm definitely hopeful and sticking with it! :metal
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I started my viewing of Shield and I'm unimpressed and bored. I hope it gets better and from what I've heard it does but...thus far it's the same old network television BS that turned me off from TV entirely to begin with (well, it's not as bad as the laugh-track sitcoms but...it's nearing that league at this point, which is still only the third episode...starting the fourth now).
I watched Season 1 over the past month or so, and I considered stopping after the first three or four episodes, but around halfway through the season they just hit the gas hard and it becomes about 5 times as good and compelling as you would think it would be from the first few episodes.
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I started my viewing of Shield and I'm unimpressed and bored. I hope it gets better and from what I've heard it does but...thus far it's the same old network television BS that turned me off from TV entirely to begin with (well, it's not as bad as the laugh-track sitcoms but...it's nearing that league at this point, which is still only the third episode...starting the fourth now).
I watched Season 1 over the past month or so, and I considered stopping after the first three or four episodes, but around halfway through the season they just hit the gas hard and it becomes about 5 times as good and compelling as you would think it would be from the first few episodes.
Completely agree 425.
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Saw that earlier and thought that he should be white.
But srsly, I don't know the actor so I'm not affected at all besides the thought of "cool, looks like the character". I'll watch the show for the rest.
I started my viewing of Shield and I'm unimpressed and bored. I hope it gets better and from what I've heard it does but...thus far it's the same old network television BS that turned me off from TV entirely to begin with (well, it's not as bad as the laugh-track sitcoms but...it's nearing that league at this point, which is still only the third episode...starting the fourth now).
The first half of season 1 sucks ass but supposedly it gets better. I can't verify that claim as I bailed halfway through apparently right before it changes from 'visual and auditory ambien' to actually entertaining.
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I would say around Episode 10 ("The Bridge") and Episode 11 ("The Magical Place") are where it really starts to heat up. Also, the virtue of the early episodes is that they bring back a lot of things that seem like they're just one-and-done from those episodes in the later ones.
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I don't really understand why so many people disliked the start of Agents of SHIELD. I found it very enjoyable from the get go. Sure it develops a LOT, but that's what happens in basically any TV show.
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I dont think that the beginning of season 1 'sucks ass', or that it was necessarily bad. But it all felt a bit pointless. Lately it really feels as if the events of the show are actually relevant to the MCU, which in my opinion is mostly why it got so much better.
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I gave up maybe half way into S1, don't really remember. I thought it was very bland as a tv-show, and the only reason I watched was because of the tie-ins to the movies, but even that was just such a small part of it. I didn't find any of the characters compelling, it felt like a much less interesting Criminal Minds/CSI with a Sci-Fi element and nothing too exciting. I like Coulson as a minor character, but not enough that I want to see him as the main character.
I think in general, I just don't really like the "villain of the week"-format very much. I know they tried doing some longer story arcs in the background as well, but many episodes were just hard to sit through.
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That's how a lot of shows start though, as it's a good way to establish characters and settings. It very much hasn't been the case for a while now.
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That's how a lot of shows start though, as it's a good way to establish characters and settings. It very much hasn't been the case for a while now.
I don't think anyone is saying otherwise. It's just that that doesn't appeal to some, and it makes the series a bit harder to latch onto early on, that's all.
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With so much good tv out there I don't want to waste my time on a show that spends ten to twelve episodes spinning its wheels with weak writing and uncompelling characters. Many shows can fit in a season's worth of plot and character development in that amount of time so saying it's 'setting things up' is a bit of a cop out. Fringe did the same thing, spending half of the first season with mediocre monster of the week episodes before diving into good stuff, but Fringe also had Walter and some other decent characters to keep things from becoming too dull. Shield had no such crutch.
If it got better, then that's good, Fringe also got much, much better. Eventually. But in an age of Breaking Bad, Mad Men, Game of Thrones, and Hannibal, hell throw Walking Dead, Arrow, and Homeland on there too, being mediocre at best is not a saving grace IMO.
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hell throw Walking Dead, Arrow ... on there too.
No. None of that should be anywhere near the same category of 'good' as Game of Thrones, Breaking Bad, or Hannibal. Agents of Shield is a good show, but does not belong there either, not by a long shot.
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Well, that's why I put them where I did, off in their own separate little list.
Okay, okay, I'll agree with Arrow. I do enjoy the show, but mostly for its kinetic energy and relentless pacing if not necessarily for its acting or writing.
The Walking Dead, on the other hand, at least has a Shane or a Daryl or a Ricktator around to keep things interesting even when it's mining the full depths of its own shittiness. It may not be a great show but I'm usually entertained.
Yes, even during Season 2.
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That's how a lot of shows start though, as it's a good way to establish characters and settings. It very much hasn't been the case for a while now.
I don't think anyone is saying otherwise. It's just that that doesn't appeal to some, and it makes the series a bit harder to latch onto early on, that's all.
Oh I know, I just find it surprising that so many people don't stick with shows for a bit longer to give them time to settle in.
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Off-topic for a second (still on the Marvel topic, but not on the AoS topic): I was thinking about Iron Man this morning. After Age of Ultron, there are no more Iron Man movies currently scheduled. Is Iron Man done as a hero after Age of Ultron? I could perhaps see that being the case. Stark is a basket case and basically hung it up. Perhaps he is putting on the armor one more time simply because he has to to stop his own creation, and will be done after that. But we know Robert Downey Jr. only recently signed a new contract for more movie appearances. So I am just wondering out loud whether he will only do small roles as Tony Stark with no more Iron Man, if he will only be Iron Man in other movies with no more Iron Man solo movies, or if Marvel will actually shoot more Iron Man movies that they will weave into the schedule, but simply could not announce them beforehand because RDJ was not yet under contract. Speculation?
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While I agree that sometimes shows have a slow start, I can kinda force myself through that if I know that something good lies ahead. Take shows like Sopranos or The Wire. I've heard good things, wasn't initially getting the hype, but knowing they are critically acclaimed shows with universal praise, it makes it easier to endure, and finally understand why they are so loved. But with a show like Agents of SHIELD, that motivation isn't there. The show is almost universally panned, with the exception of a group of loyal fans who love the show, and the ratings have gone down more and more with each episode.
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The show is almost universally panned
Er, no it isn't.
the ratings have gone down more and more with each episode.
Er, no they haven't. :lol
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The show is almost universally panned
Er, no it isn't.
the ratings have gone down more and more with each episode.
Er, no they haven't. :lol
Yeah, this. Zantera, not sure where you are getting your info. :lol
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If we go back to halfway through season 1, when Jimmy stopped watching, then yeah that might be an accurate description at that time. But pretty much everyone who has stuck with it says that it's a very good show, and ratings have stabilised and started to climb again. (EDIT: not that overnight ratings really mean much anyway)
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Off-topic for a second (still on the Marvel topic, but not on the AoS topic): I was thinking about Iron Man this morning. After Age of Ultron, there are no more Iron Man movies currently scheduled. Is Iron Man done as a hero after Age of Ultron? I could perhaps see that being the case. Stark is a basket case and basically hung it up. Perhaps he is putting on the armor one more time simply because he has to to stop his own creation, and will be done after that. But we know Robert Downey Jr. only recently signed a new contract for more movie appearances. So I am just wondering out loud whether he will only do small roles as Tony Stark with no more Iron Man, if he will only be Iron Man in other movies with no more Iron Man solo movies, or if Marvel will actually shoot more Iron Man movies that they will weave into the schedule, but simply could not announce them beforehand because RDJ was not yet under contract. Speculation?
Downey was under contract for Avengers 2 & 3. The contract was definitely renegotiated because Avengers 3 is now 3 & 4, and also for appearing in Captain America 3. I highly doubt that those appearances will be as Stark only and not having him suit up as Iron Man, although I suppose anything is possible.
Downey also said that he would definitely be open to appearing on Agents of SHIELD (to bring the conversation back, lol), as has Jeremy Renner (Hawkeye), which would be badass. And apparently the show will tie into Age of Ultron, although not in as major a way as it tied into The Winter Soldier.
Beyond that? Who can say about Downey? I imagine he can write his own ticket at this point.
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Yeah, I did not know the specifics. But even with that added info, while he could suit up in the Avengers movies themselves, it still does not clarify whether he will suit up in any solo films. Personally, I would love to see another couple of IM films. But given where Marvel has gone with Tony's headspace as a character, I could see if he just sort of retired and only put on the suit when an emergency arose (the Avengers films) instead. But it would be a bummer if he was kept limited to that, especially since the "All Hail The King" One Shot teased a new Mandarin storyline.
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I mean the show started off around 12-13 million viewers and has dropped to 5 or so. Even if you look at S2, every episode pretty much dropped viewers until the 5th or 6th episode where there was a slight increase, but still far below the numbers of S1.
As for how the show has been received, I think the numbers really say a lot. There are many big Marvel fans out there, and the movies sell tickets like butter, but when even the fans can't be arsed to watch the show anymore, that says something. And yes, I guess 5 million is still an okay number of viewers, but considering it started off at almost 13, that drop is still quite huge.
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Yeah, I did not know the specifics. But even with that added info, while he could suit up in the Avengers movies themselves, it still does not clarify whether he will suit up in any solo films. Personally, I would love to see another couple of IM films. But given where Marvel has gone with Tony's headspace as a character, I could see if he just sort of retired and only put on the suit when an emergency arose (the Avengers films) instead. But it would be a bummer if he was kept limited to that, especially since the "All Hail The King" One Shot teased a new Mandarin storyline.
There are, at this time, no plans for any more IM solo films. But Downey has said "Never say never," so it's not like there is no possibility for more.
Personally, I don't think there will be any more. Which is one reason we are seeing films for new characters like Ant-Man, Doctor Strange, Black Panther, and Captain Marvel. At some point, the current crew will not want to participate anymore, so better to have new characters to take their places in the public eye.
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In principle, I do not disagree. But I guess I have seen IM as kind of the core of the MCU and just felt that, no matter which other characters came and went, you would probably still have Iron Man as the one constant. And, again, with the Mandarin tease, it seems like a wasted opportunity to let that drop. But, c'est la vie.
Oh, and I meant to comment on what you said about Renner. Didn't know about him wanting to make an appearance on AoS. But he did make an appearance at the 49ers/Seahawks game on Thanksgiving and was trying to fire up the crowd. And it was awesome.
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Well, it may be too much to say he "wants to." He said that he would be willing to appear, which would be awesome. Especially since, in the comics, agent Morse wound up marrying Hawkeye.
I wouldn't be surprised if, at some point, Downey takes on an "elder statesman" role in the MCU, continuing to appear as Stark without actually putting on the suit for more adventures. They could technically move Rhodey over to suit up as Iron Man at that point; he wore the armor as Iron Man in the comics for an extended period at one point.
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On the topic of AOS, I'm just the type of person that if a show doesn't immediately hook me, it takes a lot in me to keep watching. I'm not at all a TV-goer and don't even own a TV; even for a show like Breaking Bad that had me from the get-go, I still took a few weeks to actually become an avid fan who watched episode-by-episode. With a show like this, if I'm not invested in the story, which I'm really not all that much, then it's tough for me to watch and wait. But it's a HUGE help that I don't have to wait for weekly episodes, and quite honestly I wouldn't even give this show the time of day if I did have to wait for the episodes. I'm just not THAT invested, and if I'm not invested or interested, I'll forget what happens during that week. I have too many other interests that'll dwarf this one.
Anyway, I like the show and it does pick up pretty quickly, but I have a feeling it's going to drop off my radar. I suppose it's just not for me. I don't dislike it, but for a comic-book fiend like myself, it feels like TV-oriented-comic material...for the non-comic fans, if that makes any sense. It's just quite predictable and by-the-numbers when it comes to storytelling, acting and production. Even for the super-hero movies, it takes a lot for me to get excited because I just grew up with comics that do what the movies try to do but the comics did it (and still do, to a lesser extent) so much better. I suppose it's the 'let's attract the masses' mindset that really brings it down a notch for me. I'm not panning the show because it's great when compared to most everything else on TV, which I view as fodder; but I can't see the show being anything but a nice way to kill my boredom. That's totally fine though, if I have some downtime and have nothing else to watch (which at this time of year I really don't), it's a great way to spend a lazy afternoon/night.
Sadly though, it's exactly what I thought it'd be; but perhaps S2 will change my thoughts on the show, but I'm sure as hell not gonna shell any money out for the blu/dvd or buy a TV anytime soon, so hopefully it comes to Netflix within the next year or so. I gave it a shot though! I'll continue watching, but it'll be in spurts of months to both wait for S2 on Netflix and because, well, I just don't care that much.
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On the topic of IM, I'm pretty sure he's winding down and is going to be making appearances suited up until the end of the Infinity saga (Avengers '3'). After that, I could definitely see him stepping down but still making cameos, showing up as Stark but not suiting up, etc. It's tough to tell with that guy though, Downey is pretty unpredictable. Oddly enough, despite the fact that I really love Cheadle as an actor, I've had nothing but indifference towards him as Rhodey. I've not specifically disliked his performance, but he's just so god damn bland that I don't care whether he's there or not. Downey and his interactions have felt so forced and so fabricated to me, and I can't quite pinpoint why. So I REALLY do not want to see him as 'the next IM' because that'd kill it for me, totally and completely. It'd turn into a franchise that I wouldn't go to the movies for but would catch on On Demand or even Netflix way down the line and I don't want that. I'm hoping for a new face, someone unheard of.
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On the topic of IM, I'm pretty sure he's winding down and is going to be making appearances suited up until the end of the Infinity saga (Avengers '3'). After that, I could definitely see him stepping down but still making cameos, showing up as Stark but not suiting up, etc. It's tough to tell with that guy though, Downey is pretty unpredictable. Oddly enough, despite the fact that I really love Cheadle as an actor, I've had nothing but indifference towards him as Rhodey. I've not specifically disliked his performance, but he's just so god damn bland that I don't care whether he's there or not. Downey and his interactions have felt so forced and so fabricated to me, and I can't quite pinpoint why. So I REALLY do not want to see him as 'the next IM' because that'd kill it for me, totally and completely. It'd turn into a franchise that I wouldn't go to the movies for but would catch on On Demand or even Netflix way down the line and I don't want that. I'm hoping for a new face, someone unheard of.
Since Mora isn't here to point out that you are a racist, I'll just stand in for her and say that you most likely feel that way because he is Black.
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Damn it. :rollin :rollin :lol
It's true. I really need an albino in that role.
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Holy crap
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Best synopsis I've seen so far: https://comicsalliance.com/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-season-2-recap-episode-10-what-they-become/
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I just want to reiterate: "Pelvic sorcery." :rollin :rollin :rollin
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Yeah, that was a great line.
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First poster for Ant-Man.
(https://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i238/hefdaddy42/other/Ant-Man-poster-550x814_zpsdd12a128.jpg)
First teaser trailer debuts during first episode of Agent Carter tonight.
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Agent Carter. :caffeine:
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Agent Carter. :caffeine:
Indeed.
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Thanks for the reminder. TO THE DVR!
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I'll be curious to see the ratings for this episode of Agent Carter and the next one, just to see how many tuned in just for Ant-Man.
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Funny reading your post Jimmy in this day and age of the internet when it will be up right after it's on TV.
These times are a changin'.
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Yeah I know a lot of people will probably wait, but out of the big fanboys, they will probably tune in, just to see the trailer an hour before it goes online, or 30 mins, or whatever. :P
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No, I'm not razzing you, I was thinking about how it affects rating now that things get put on the internet so fast.
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I doubt many people watched it just for Ant-Man.
The Ant-Man teaser was actually pretty cool. But I LOVED the first episode (actually first 2 episodes) of Agent Carter. Very nice.
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The Ant-Man trailer looked good. And I'm happy Paul Rudd gets this chance. IMO he's been one of the more likable actors over the last 10 years, but at least to me, it seems he rarely gets the opportunity to shine. He's either the friend of the main character, or it's a movie like "I Love You Man" where he is one of the two main guys. With Ant-Man it kinda feels like he's getting a break, and gets to be front and center and get some more attention. I've been a fan of him for years, and it's nice to see him get a bigger role.
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The Ant-Man trailer looked good. And I'm happy Paul Rudd gets this chance. IMO he's been one of the more likable actors over the last 10 years, but at least to me, it seems he rarely gets the opportunity to shine. He's either the friend of the main character, or it's a movie like "I Love You Man" where he is one of the two main guys. With Ant-Man it kinda feels like he's getting a break, and gets to be front and center and get some more attention. I've been a fan of him for years, and it's nice to see him get a bigger role.
Agree 100% :tup
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I LOVED the first episode (actually first 2 episodes) of Agent Carter. Very nice.
I thought it was pretty good too, but I will have to watch again. I was exhausted and I am sure I missed a lot. And I am a bit confused about the timeline as well. This appears to take place slightly BEFORE the Agent Carter One-Shot, right? I was under the impression it would take place just after, but that does not seem to be the case.
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I believe it is before the one-shot.
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The Ant-Man trailer was neat. Nothing really great, but I believe I won't be fully on board with this project until I see the movie and see how good or bad it is for myself.
Haven't seen the 'Agent Carter' episodes yet, I'll probably get to it tonight.
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The intro to the first episode really just reminds me of how the end of the first Captain America movie made absolutely no sense.
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The intro to the first episode really just reminds me of how the end of the first Captain America movie made absolutely no sense.
???
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Firstly, the plane crash. When he pushes the levers forward to crash I'm just screaming internally 'YOU HAVE CONTROL OF THE PLANE? AND YOU SOMEHOW DECIDE THAT YOUR ONLY OPTION IN THE WORLD IS TO CRASH IT IN THE ICE?'.
Also, they sent people to random places at the bottom of the sea for god knows how long to locate the tesseract but not one damn helicopter or something to find a huge ass plane and discover that Captain America actually survived? Not even to retrieve the body for a funeral, or to harvest some of the Hydra-tech on the plane? EVERYONE just decided 'nope, no need to go and look, he definetely died, even after all the amazing things we've seen him do'.
Of course it's so that he could be frozen for 70 years and be in the Avengers, and I'm okay with that. Just can't help but notice that none of it is logical.
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Firstly, the plane crash. When he pushes the levers forward to crash I'm just screaming internally 'YOU HAVE CONTROL OF THE PLANE? AND YOU SOMEHOW DECIDE THAT YOUR ONLY OPTION IN THE WORLD IS TO CRASH IT IN THE ICE?'.
He didn't see a way to land it safely without a risk of those WMDs going off. So he ditched it as far away as he could go. I don't see a problem.
Also, they sent people to random places at the bottom of the sea for god knows how long to locate the tesseract but not one damn helicopter or something to find a huge ass plane and discover that Captain America actually survived? Not even to retrieve the body for a funeral, or to harvest some of the Hydra-tech on the plane? EVERYONE just decided 'nope, no need to go and look, he definetely died, even after all the amazing things we've seen him do'.
I don't know that they sent "people" to "random" places. I remember Howard Stark searching for the Tesseract, which departed the plane well before the crash landing. They were probably able to narrow down a search area based on telemetry and direction and all that technical mumbo-jumbo. So it wasn't where the plane was, and might not have been anywhere NEAR where it was.
And they just didn't find it. It happens. Not far-fetched at all, especially for a superhero film.
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I think I remember reading somewhere that we are STILL looking for a real plane somewhere near Asia or Australia or something. I could be misremembering...
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A tv-show about Captain America's boring girlfriend, taking place in the long dull time spawn between First Avenger and the modern movies? With Agent's of SHIELD I can sort of see the appeal since it takes place now, and will (to some extent) connect with the current events of the movies, but with Agent Carter I don't see the appeal. Unless you got tons and tons of free time and you need to absorb anything Marvel.
No offense to anyone watching the show, it might be great
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He didn't see a way to land it safely without a risk of those WMDs going off. So he ditched it as far away as he could go. I don't see a problem.
I'm not saying going to an airport and just landing it would be his best option, I just think that it would be logical to think things over a bit longer without immediately killing yourself. A better solution would not be hard to find for these guys. He even since 'if I wait any longer a lot of people are going to die', to which I say 'hell no, you could fly this thing in circles out in the middle of nowhere until there's a plan or something.
They were probably able to narrow down a search area based on telemetry and direction and all that technical mumbo-jumbo.
I'm just thinking they could have used this in the search for the plane too. He never steered the plane to the sides or anything, he just forced it straight down. So the plane, even if it's far from the tesseract, should still be in the same path.
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I'm not saying going to an airport and just landing it would be his best option, I just think that it would be logical to think things over a bit longer without immediately killing yourself. A better solution would not be hard to find for these guys. He even since 'if I wait any longer a lot of people are going to die', to which I say 'hell no, you could fly this thing in circles out in the middle of nowhere until there's a plan or something.
Like what? It was the 40's, there was no SHIELD. The most advanced technology on the planet was in the plane with him. He didn't see a viable, safe alternative, so he took one for the team.
He never steered the plane to the sides or anything, he just forced it straight down. So the plane, even if it's far from the tesseract, should still be in the same path.
Maybe. I dunno. But in every war, people are listed as missing, presumed dead. It's no stretch to think the same thing happened here.
If it's a problem for you, then it's a problem for you. But I don't see it as a problem, and neither do most fans. Not sure what to tell you.
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A tv-show about Captain America's boring girlfriend, taking place in the long dull time spawn between First Avenger and the modern movies? With Agent's of SHIELD I can sort of see the appeal since it takes place now, and will (to some extent) connect with the current events of the movies, but with Agent Carter I don't see the appeal. Unless you got tons and tons of free time and you need to absorb anything Marvel.
No offense to anyone watching the show, it might be great
Well, I think of it kind of like the comics (although I haven't read comics in YEARS now, but still). Let's say that at any given time, Marvel has 30 active titles. You might be actively into, let's say, 5 of those. But you like the characters in those a lot, and there are crossovers into issues with other characters, such that if you read the crossovers, you get a lot of really cool relevant background information and story about the 5 titles you are most into. So now you are into 10 titles, total--5 because you actively like them, and 5 because they fill in relevant information to the 5 you actively want to follow. It works similarly with the Marvel Movie/TV universe. Howard Stark and Peggy Carter are actually pretty important foundational characters for the present-day Marvel Universe. And Jarvis is pretty important as well. So I think it makes sense for a limited series focusing on those characters. It provides a more rich, developed backstory for a lot of related Marvel outlets, such as the films.
And as for Agents of SHIELD, while it functioned primarily as a spinoff of the films during season 1, season 2 made it an independent entity on equal footing with the films, IMO. It is now VERY connected with the films and is setting up a lot of what will happen in the films for the next few years.
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It was the 40's, there was no SHIELD. The most advanced technology on the planet was in the plane with him.
This so much. Not sure why it's hard to believe that they couldn't find a single crashed plane in the 40s.
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So I think it makes sense for a limited series focusing on those characters. It provides a more rich, developed backstory for a lot of related Marvel outlets, such as the films.
And this as well. :tup
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It was the 40's, there was no SHIELD. The most advanced technology on the planet was in the plane with him.
This so much. Not sure why it's hard to believe that they couldn't find a single crashed plane in the 40s.
Because they also want us to believe that they found a cube small enough to hold in your hand, at the bottom of the ocean. And the plane was on the surface, and as large as a skyscraper.
Like I said though, I'm okay with it for the sake of setting up future stories, and I still enjoy the movie. So it's not so much of a problem that it ruins the whole thing.
EDIT: I feel this needs revisiting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruMO9SXto0Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruMO9SXto0Q)
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Because they also want us to believe that they found a cube small enough to hold in your hand, at the bottom of the ocean.
Yes, but a cube that emits a unique and very powerful energy signature, which can be tracked.
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Because they also want us to believe that they found a cube small enough to hold in your hand, at the bottom of the ocean.
Yes, but a cube that emits a unique and very powerful energy signature, which can be tracked.
That they had also been looking for for 60+ years
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But the plane was full of stuff powered by the same sort of power, including several giant nukes.
Am I seriously the only one who finds the ending even a little bit illogical?
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Apparently so.
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But the plane was full of stuff powered by the same sort of power, including several giant nukes.
Am I seriously the only one who finds the ending even a little bit illogical?
Well, there's a difference between a power source and a ton of weapons that use its power. The tesseract will obviously shine brighter. The other weapons might have lost it, I don't know.
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Marvel stuff keeps happening: The Daredevil series on Netflix will hit on April 10. Here's the poster. Pretty cool. :metal
(https://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i238/hefdaddy42/other/daredevilnetflix_zps35f321c1.jpg)
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Schweet. No idea if any UK channel is going to pick it up, though I guess Netflix UK might. Nobody has picked up Agent Carter here so I'm having to find other means to watch it. :(
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Schweet. No idea if any UK channel is going to pick it up, though I guess Netflix UK might. Nobody has picked up Agent Carter here so I'm having to find other means to watch it. :(
Oooo I'm telling.
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Don't know much about Daredevil other than the Ben Affleck movie, but I'll be checking this out for sure.
And also, just finished the second episode of 'Agent Carter'. Good stuff. Not great, but good. Jarvis is awesome though.
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Jarvis might just be the very worst backronym ever :lol
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The Ant-Man trailer looked good. And I'm happy Paul Rudd gets this chance.
You really thought so? I had the opposite reaction. And I wanted to let it sit for a couple of days just to make sure. But...well...it's a movie about a guy in an ant costume, which just seems kinda dumb, which is why I never got into the character in the first place. And, granted, before last summer, the idea of a talking raccoon riding a talking tree sounded really dumb too. But when the GOTG trailer came out, it became obvious that the film was going to be a fun, lighthearted space adventure that didn't take itself too seriously and was just going to be...well, fun. Everything down to the soundtrack screamed "fun." Ant Man seems just as dumb without any of the cool stuff to redeem it. Yeah, it's just a short teaser trailer. But I remain skeptical. I will see it. But it is looking like it will be far and away the weakest link in the Marvel franchise thus far.
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Marvel is a bit hit or miss with their movies for me (though never outright bad), but I think Ant-Man could surprise people the way Guardians surprised people last year.
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I'm somewhat with Bosk on this in that I'm kind of indifferent. The trailer didn't give me goosebumps or get me all that excited or anything, but I did like what I saw. I'm excited to see Douglas again, I love that guys acting (and he looks ballin' with that goatee), and I'm interested in seeing how Rudd performs (I'm with the group that thinks he's underutilized as an actor), but the premise of the film as well as the superhero himself, I'm just kind 'eh' about. I've never followed the actual Ant-Man comics and have only kept up with the character whilst in the Avengers and in other comic-book-universe mash-ups and the like. That said, it'll be cool to see "Ant Man II" (Since Douglas' Pym was the original, and Rudd's Lang is the successor) and the OG interacting as well as what they do with the character here on out if the movie succeeds, which I'm sure it will, but to what extent? Will he be inducted into the Avengers in the future? Will this be a one-off film and they use him as they do Hulk? Or will this thing blow up and we get an awesome new series?
I'm more interested in the ramifications of the character rather than the character himself at this point. But I'm definitely going to check it out, it just might not be a theater-worthy movie for me. We'll see, depends on what's going on when the movie releases.
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Marvel is a bit hit or miss with their movies for me (though never outright bad), but I think Ant-Man could surprise people the way Guardians surprised people last year.
I hope you are right. But as I mentioned above, I don't see anything about it that makes it look like it will surprise people like GOTG did. With GOTG, even a lot of skeptics (myself included) who saw the trailer thought, "Hmm, this looks like it could actually be cool." I am not getting any of that with Ant Man.
That said, it'll be cool to see "Ant Man II" (Since Douglas' Pym was the original, and Rudd's Lang is the successor) and the OG interacting as well as what they do with the character here on out if the movie succeeds, which I'm sure it will, but to what extent?
But I don't think they are doing a II. It appears that this film does both characters by having Pym's original Ant Man in flashbacks, but with the focus on Lang in the present. And while I could be wrong, I got the impression that we now have the complete Marvel movie release schedule.
Will he be inducted into the Avengers in the future? Will this be a one-off film and they use him as they do Hulk? Or will this thing blow up and we get an awesome new series?
Hard to say. From what I have gathered, the vision for Ant Man existed from like 2003 or so with the guy who was originally onboard as the director but was recently replaced. He apparently had a vision of keeping this story mostly separate, and Marvel instead wanted it fully incorporated into the current storyline, but the two sides compromised somewhat. What that ultimately means is hard to say. Perhaps having the characters reappear, but NOT with Ant Man actually becoming an Avenger? One way to do that is just by having him appear in the context of the Civil War storyline and the fallout from that.
What I really can't wait for is Marvel studios giving millions of fans the finger in the final Infinity War movie as fans watch Thanos finally being defeated at some great cost, looking for some hope in the future, and eagerly waiting through the credits for that post-credits scene that sets up that the Marvel universe will indeed be continuing...only to get a short shot of Feige in a director's chair saying something like, "What? We told you this was the last movie. What are you still waiting around here for? Go home!"
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I must admit, I always though that the Scott Lang character in the comics was a doofus, and I much preferred Henry Pym as Yellowjacket or Goliath/Giant-Man.
But I love all of the actors involved with this, and again, I trust Marvel Studios. So I am hopeful.
And bosky? There is no evidence that the Marvel film layout announced earlier are the last Marvel films ever. It's just their schedule through 2019. There will be more.
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Marvel is a bit hit or miss with their movies for me (though never outright bad), but I think Ant-Man could surprise people the way Guardians surprised people last year.
I hope you are right. But as I mentioned above, I don't see anything about it that makes it look like it will surprise people like GOTG did. With GOTG, even a lot of skeptics (myself included) who saw the trailer thought, "Hmm, this looks like it could actually be cool." I am not getting any of that with Ant Man.
That said, it'll be cool to see "Ant Man II" (Since Douglas' Pym was the original, and Rudd's Lang is the successor) and the OG interacting as well as what they do with the character here on out if the movie succeeds, which I'm sure it will, but to what extent?
But I don't think they are doing a II. It appears that this film does both characters by having Pym's original Ant Man in flashbacks, but with the focus on Lang in the present. And while I could be wrong, I got the impression that we now have the complete Marvel movie release schedule.
Will he be inducted into the Avengers in the future? Will this be a one-off film and they use him as they do Hulk? Or will this thing blow up and we get an awesome new series?
Hard to say. From what I have gathered, the vision for Ant Man existed from like 2003 or so with the guy who was originally onboard as the director but was recently replaced. He apparently had a vision of keeping this story mostly separate, and Marvel instead wanted it fully incorporated into the current storyline, but the two sides compromised somewhat. What that ultimately means is hard to say. Perhaps having the characters reappear, but NOT with Ant Man actually becoming an Avenger? One way to do that is just by having him appear in the context of the Civil War storyline and the fallout from that.
What I really can't wait for is Marvel studios giving millions of fans the finger in the final Infinity War movie as fans watch Thanos finally being defeated at some great cost, looking for some hope in the future, and eagerly waiting through the credits for that post-credits scene that sets up that the Marvel universe will indeed be continuing...only to get a short shot of Feige in a director's chair saying something like, "What? We told you this was the last movie. What are you still waiting around here for? Go home!"
I worded that poorly about "Ant Man II", I meant that Lang is the actual second Ant Man, as in the second incarnation of the character since Pym initially (well, in the comics, I'm kind of confused about how they're doing this in the movie myself) donned the Ant Man suit, and is now passing the torch to Lang. Pym created the Pym Particles that allow the shrinking-aspect as well as the suit itself to be able to communicate with insects, and then has Lang become "the new/second Ant Man". Hence my poorly worded statement. But yeah I knew they'd be kind of fusing the two storylines instead of having Douglas in one movie and Rudd in another (which I might've actually preferred considering my love for Douglas, but it is what it is).
:rollin I would be so infuriated if they did that with the MCU. No way though. Marvel is far too money-hungry and knows that they literally have EONS of material to draw upon from the comic book universe. I mean, it'll never end for as long as there are fans that support it, and I don't think that's going to end for a very, very long time. All this talk of an 'over-saturated market' is a load of horse poopy when the numbers continually grow and crush the movies before it. Nah, this thing is going to be going strong even when we're (well, me, cause I'm super healthy and will live to be 100) on our death beds. I really think it'll keep going that long. Granted, we will eventually hit a point where it'll kind of stabilize, but if past franchises and genres are any indication, it's that you have to try REALLY, REALLY hard and make a bunch of shitty movies to 'over-saturate' any market in Hollywood. Marvel's movie are mostly massive hits, even the fan-panned movies like Iron Man 2 did pretty well, let alone the massive hits.
I must admit, I always though that the Scott Lang character in the comics was a doofus, and I much preferred Henry Pym as Yellowjacket or Goliath/Giant-Man.
But I love all of the actors involved with this, and again, I trust Marvel Studios. So I am hopeful.
And bosky? There is no evidence that the Marvel film layout announced earlier are the last Marvel films ever. It's just their schedule through 2019. There will be more.
Right, I don't recall them ever saying there'd be a last movie, it's just 'planned out' (and I'd bet the rhinestone on my left testicle that they've planned even further) and released their plans up to 2019. Right now they're like Walter White in his pinnacle moment of his reign..."Nothing stops this train...NOTHING".
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The only missed opportunity is that Michael Douglas has said that he won't be Ant-Man in the movie. Would have made a nice passing of the torch if Douglas started the movie off as being Ant-Man, realizing he is "too old for this shit", then passing it onto Scott Lang. But it seems he will only be the older mentor, and not physically Ant-Man. A bit of a shame, but hopefully good anyways.
I think they wanted to avoid having yet another smart scientist guy (Tony Stark/Bruce Baxter), and Scott Lang has a different back story with his sick daughter and trying to provide for her.
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See, I knew that much, but where I'm confused is... Do they not even acknowledge that he was once Ant-Man? I mean, it seems obvious since...well, the suit is already made, and he introduces Lang to the name Ant-Man in the trailer, but surely they must at least explain that he was once a super hero...? It's just odd that they won't even show it, if that's what that means, that he 'won't play Ant-Man' (not even flashbacks, as Bosk said?). A little disappointing indeed if that's the case but hopefully it's explained by Douglas himself in the movie, at the very least. I suppose I could also see him simply being 'the creator', and creating the suit, the Pym Particles, and finding someone of resolute will, sound mind, and all the usual super hero traits to 'use them'. That would be my least favorite scenario though... But again, it is what it is; MCU is always pretty deviant from the comic storylines so we'll see what happens with this.
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You guys could be right. But I don't think it is a good sign that I am more intrigued by this quote
I'd bet the rhinestone on my left testicle
than the trailer.
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It's a truly beautiful thing. Ant-Man ain't got shit on Left-Bartholomew's rhinestone.
For anyone wanting to join the new fanclubs, there is one for each part of my masterful member. Left-Bartholomew; Right-Bartholomew; and Casanova. Please apply to the correct fanclub, there is no longer a fanclub for the entirety of my junk, formerly known as Guardians of the Girdle. The fans of each are just too massive in number.
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Wow. I think I just achieved more shrinkage than Ant Man after reading that.
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I'll stick this in the complaints department, whom Sir Gordo tends to.
I'll let you figure out who Sir Gordo is.
He stinks.
...Kdone. :police: :yarr
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Also, this is just a teaser and it doesn't really give us too much. Sure, it's almost 2 minutes, but a lot of fast cuts without much substance in terms of plot. I think a first trailer will probably do a better job of selling the movie. Still, I gotta say that an Ant-Man movie with Paul Rudd as the lead, even without Edgar Wright is 300% more interesting to me than watching a stand-alone Thor movie with the same fish out of water jokes and the lack of chemistry between Chris Hemsworth and Natalie Portman.
I really liked that final line of poking fun at the name. Because Ant-Man is a dumb name. I could picture the scene in my head:
Michael Douglas: "What do you have in mind?"
Paul Rudd: "What about Bug-man?"
MD: "No"
PR: "Insect-boy?"
MD: "Nooo"
PR: "Spider-Man?"
MD: "We don't own those rights son"
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I hope it's got some great one liners, I think the chemistry between Douglas and Rudd is going to be an important aspect of the movie for me; and even from the short scenes showed it looks like they've got some great banter going already. I agree on the Thor aspects...I really just kind of dozed through the first and didn't care about anything in it, and the second I merely 'liked' only for Loki, who is amazing and could carry a film much better than Hemsworth if he had a standalone movie (which I'm still hoping for someday, but don't ever expect it). Shit, I think I liked this TEASER (god damn, am I fed up with Hollywood's marketing...whatever happened to one, single, awesome trailer for a movie? MAYBE two? I wasn't even aware this wasn't an actual trailer) more than all of the first Thor and most of the second. Truly, no shit-talking, I was enamored more than I was in either of those movies in the two minutes shown. Other than Iron Man 2, both Thor movies are at the bottom of the Marvel barrel for me.
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I would say Iron Man 2, Thor & Thor 2 as well as the first Captain America movie are the 4 Marvel movies I've only seen once or twice, but have no urge to ever see again. Not bad movies, just lacking (for various reasons) something compared to the best Marvel movies. Avengers, Iron Man, Captain America 2 and Guardians are all so darn great that it more than enough makes up for it. Iron Man 3 is in the middle IMO. Not one of the best, but not one of the worst.
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I pretty much agree. I really think Iron Man 2 is a really bad film in itself though, and one that I've seen twice, the second time being that my now-ex wanted to watch it and we ended up doing more fun things toward the latter-half, and she was EXTREMELY excited to see it given that she was obsessed with Downy Jr. and Stark in general at the time. That alone was, even during the midst of it all, I was thinking "Damn, this movie really DOES suck ass". :lol It was just such a dull, drudging cheese-fest, the entire time. I didn't hate IM3 as much as most but I do think it's middle-tier, as you said; it wasn't horrible, but it certainly wasn't great either. It was just a normal superhero flick that was mildly exciting at times, and mildly boring at others.
I really didn't give less than half a shit for the first Captain America, but man did I love the hell out of the second one. It really brought back the hope that one day, they might reach the epitome of awe-inspiring godliness that is the comic-book version of the REAL Captain America. The one that I posted a single frame of a few pages back that is just the absolute epitome of what CA is. He's a fucking rock-hard boner of awesomeness, stout resolution, adamant resolve, a volcanic eruption of willpower, and immovable determination. I fucking love it and Evans has nowhere near even begun to view that persona. Not even close. He's a god damn toddler in that viewpoint. But I think if Marvel starts to develop that kind of character, he can pull it off; Snowpiercer (a great little apocalyptic indie flick) proved that he can be a ruthless badass, and if he can take that and make it pure in terms of morality and conscience, he could be the true Captain America. As it is though...he's a drooling baby. That's the only reason I doubt that HUGE character. I mean, he's one of the most important ones, and in my eyes, thus far they've done a less than mediocre job of portraying the character. I get that most of their characters are being 'born' still, and they're in their early phases, but some of them, like Stark, are already fully developed, and on the same team still, but fighting alongside some fucking noobs. Therein lies my problem with the MCU. Everyone is in different stages of development....
Urgh! I digress. It's mostly awesome, but there are bits and pieces that annoy the hell out of me and that I wish they'd just get their shit together.
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Yeah, I pretty much love it all. :biggrin:
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Yeah, I pretty much love it all. :biggrin:
Yeah, same. :lol I mean obviously I like some more than others, but all the films have been really solid and I like that the different films have different strengths.
As for Ant-Man, I thought the trailer was cool. And I agree with Jimmy that the last line poking fun at the name was great and hints that there will still be humour in the film and it won't be taking itself too seriously.
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There has been plenty of humor in each of the Marvel films, so one that started with Edgar Wright and ended with Paul Rudd can't help but bring the funny.
I so hope they use the Spider-Man line.
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So this Agent Carter series is actually pretty darn good so far, Hayley Atwell is fantastic.
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https://screencrush.com/avengers-2-trailer-ultron-in-the-flesh/
that trailer tho :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
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https://screencrush.com/avengers-2-trailer-ultron-in-the-flesh/
that trailer tho :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
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I am so excited for this movie.
And who is that at 0:33???
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Awesome rack at :58.
Sorry. Had to point it out.
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So many bumps of geese. I can't wait to see this shiz.
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Yeah Iron Man 2 was a massive drop off in quality from the first one.
The first Iron man was like an honest to goodness proper film with a story and an arc and everything. It reminded me of the Rocketeer or something from
20 years ago. The second one is just so empty.
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Iron Man 2 was a big disappointment indeed. As for the first Iron Man, I would say it's great, but perhaps a bit overrated. My main problem with it, is the same problem I have with many origin superhero movies, and that's the villain plotline. Everything about the hero is great, and the first half or so is amazing, with Tony Stark becoming Iron Man, figuring out how to use the technology and tuning the suit. But then Jeff Bridges just builds a bigger Iron Man suit over night, learns how to use it instantly and they fight, because the movie calls for an end battle.
There are a few exceptions but most superhero origin movies fail with the enemy. Because you need to build up the superhero, and that takes time. In a sequel it's easier to get the villain right, even if Iron Man 2 didn't really deliver on that front either. Batman Begins is IMO a good example of where it works, mostly because the enemy is heavily connected to Bruce Wayne's past, and it's a cool symbolic thing that he has to defeat the mentor who taught him everything he knows.
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Apparently there was a lot more stuff filmed of Vanko (the Mickey Rourke villain in IM2) which dealt a lot more with building up his character, showing depth, etc, which got cut. He wasn't happy about it, and doesn't have much good to say about Marvel because of it.
I think that IM2 is the weakest of the MCU films thus far, but most of it is still pretty good.
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Yeah it's still a very entertaining film. Not great, but still enjoyable.
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Iron Man 2 was a big disappointment indeed. As for the first Iron Man, I would say it's great, but perhaps a bit overrated. My main problem with it, is the same problem I have with many origin superhero movies, and that's the villain plotline. Everything about the hero is great, and the first half or so is amazing, with Tony Stark becoming Iron Man, figuring out how to use the technology and tuning the suit. But then Jeff Bridges just builds a bigger Iron Man suit over night, learns how to use it instantly and they fight, because the movie calls for an end battle.
There are a few exceptions but most superhero origin movies fail with the enemy. Because you need to build up the superhero, and that takes time. In a sequel it's easier to get the villain right, even if Iron Man 2 didn't really deliver on that front either. Batman Begins is IMO a good example of where it works, mostly because the enemy is heavily connected to Bruce Wayne's past, and it's a cool symbolic thing that he has to defeat the mentor who taught him everything he knows.
I agree, when I think of Iron Man it's mainly the first half, or Tony Stark's storyline in general, not the final fight which is more just there (although it's not exactly bad). It is still my favourite Marvel film and among the best superhero films behind The Dark Knight and Batman Begins, which is a similarly good origin story but also has a great villain, which is why it's on a par with The Dark Knight for me.
The Marvel films really lack in good villains anyway - Obadiah Stane from Iron Man was as you say the part of the film that was just average rather than being great, but he's still about the best villain in the entire Marvel series, if you exclude Loki (who borders more on just being a villainous character / protagonist than a primary antagonist). In sequels it's not only easier to get the villain right, but also more important - you lose the novelty of the hero themself and their origin story, so unless you have a really great character based story to tell in the next film (which few superhero films do), so you need a really good or memorable villain if you wan't to compete with the original film. The Joker did that in The Dark Knight, and the parts of The Dark Knight Rises that seemed to stick in the public consciousness were largely Bane-driven (and one of it's biggest failures in my view was the handling of Bane at the end). Stick Christian Bale's Batman against Dark Evil Alien from Planet A or Generic Corrupt Executive #3 and you wouldn't end up with a great series.
Iron Man 2 could have been a good follow up to Iron Man if it'd had a great villain, but whether it's because they cut down Vanko's role or he just was never going to be that good, it ended up being about the weakest Marvel film, because the plot and the actual Iron Man story was no where near as good.
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I didn't think the problems with IM2 had anything to do with Vanko, I thought Rourke did a pretty good job with that. I thought the problems had to do with the development of Stark and the integration of the SHIELD/Bigger MCU Picture stuff.
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Yeah it's still a very entertaining film. Not great, but still enjoyable.
Yes! I thought Sam Rockwell in particular was awesome, and Scarjo of course was very hawt.
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I think villains have definitely been the weak point of Marvel so far in the movies. Many of the movies have very generic villains, and their only motive seems to be "I want to conquer the universe because I'm bad". Loki is a bit of an exception because he isn't really a villain. I guess you could say he is a little bit of both, but he's more of an anti-hero who chooses a side that will benefit him. He has interesting motives and has more than one dimension to him, but on the other hand I don't really buy him as THE ultimate villain. If he didn't have the giant army in Avengers, he wouldn't have stood a chance against Avengers, and even with the army he was no match for them. Even in the Thor movies, his role is more of a minor villain who helps the greater villain, but isn't much of a threat just by himself.
Despite having pretty weak villains, I think other parts of their movies make up for it. I LOVED Guardians of the Galaxy, and so did a lot of people, but the villain was easily one of the most forgettable parts of that movie. Thor 2 also had pretty forgettable villains with a dark elf army and a cloud of mist, and most of the controversy surrounding Iron Man 3 was the villain. Captain America: Winter Soldier is probably the best one IMO, because while the villain was basically just an emo version of Cap himself, there was some setup involved, and he didn't have those clichéd & cartoon-y motivations for his actions.
I think there is a lot of potential in Ultron though. The way he gets created is interesting, and while the concept of a creation seeking out to destroy its maker is not completely new, it's a well proven formula that usually works pretty well. The fact that Tony Stark creates an enemy which becomes a massive threat to our world and existence, I think Ultron, especially being voiced by James Spader will be great. If Red Skull ever returns, there is potential there for a great villain. Hugo Weaving is amazing, but Red Skull in the first movie was not very interestingly written IMO. It probably won't be Hugo Weaving if Red Skull returns, but they could make something cool out of it.
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Agree that, on the whole, Marvel villains aren't all that exciting. The films have been much more clear good vs evil than, say, the Dark Knight trilogy.
That said, it's not all black and white. A few have been evil for the sake of evil, but not many. As mentioned, Loki is a great anti-hero, and I think the whole Hydra storyline is excellent, particularly manifesting in Cap 2. Even the Iron Man villains have mostly had fairly clear motivations for their behaviours, even if their development wasn't great.
But I also agree that it doesn't really matter too much. These films have other things massively going for them.
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Zantera, I disagree with pretty much everything you said. :lol
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For the most part, Batman really is a side character. Same with Superman. Marvel's heroes are a little more colorful and take the forefront more compared to the villains.
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Yeah it's still a very entertaining film. Not great, but still enjoyable.
This is where I'm at as well. I don't think IM2 is the weakest Marvel movie (that would be the first Thor in my eyes). My favorite parts of IM2 is actually not really 'Iron Man' related, it's when Tony Stark is being Tony Stark. Him finding out and creating the new element was cool.
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Not sure why anyone would think that Loki isn't a villain.
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Not sure why anyone would think that Loki isn't a villain.
Because despite his ability to backstab others and change sides, he's also portrayed as being a good guy at heart. He does mostly villain-kind of things, but every bad action is countered with a good action, like him helping out Thor in the second Thor movie for example. Just calling him a villain would undermine most of his personality. He's kinda like the Gollum of the Marvel universe. He only does things for his own good, but he can sometimes help and take help from others if it helps him getting closer to his own goal.
Loki has become that bad character that everyone likes, and I think that goes to show that he still has likable and redeeming sides to him.
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I'm not sure manipulating others to achieve his own goals counts as "helping." He manipulated and backstabbed everyone in Thor. He manipulated Thanos and the Chitauri in the Avengers so he could get back to Asgard. He manipulated things to his own end in Thor 2 so he could get the throne. I mean, I don't really see any time in the development of his character where he did something "good." Everyone "helps" their own allies if it is a means to their end.
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It just means that Loki could charm the pants off of Zantera.
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I'm not really a big Loki-fan, but he does have some depth to his character. Frankly I wouldn't mind if Loki got killed in Thor 3.
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Not sure why anyone would think that Loki isn't a villain.
Because despite his ability to backstab others and change sides, he's also portrayed as being a good guy at heart. He does mostly villain-kind of things, but every bad action is countered with a good action, like him helping out Thor in the second Thor movie for example. Just calling him a villain would undermine most of his personality. He's kinda like the Gollum of the Marvel universe. He only does things for his own good, but he can sometimes help and take help from others if it helps him getting closer to his own goal.
Loki has become that bad character that everyone likes, and I think that goes to show that he still has likable and redeeming sides to him.
He's a villain. Villains are basically selfish, and that's what Loki is. He's a villain. People like him because Tom Hiddleston is a fantastic actor who played him exactly right. But please don't try to tell me he's not a villain.
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I was thinking more along the lines of there being a difference between a person that is a villain, as in they are bad, and more the old concept of "the villain", as in the primary antagonist of the story. Not all films a have a "villain" in this sense obviously, but superhero films have traditionally relied very much on a main antagonist to provide the plot and action, perhaps supported by a secondary antagonist (or more). Loki's role in the plot is usually a bit more complicated than being a traditional main antagonist. That Dark Elf was in the role of "the villain" in Thor 2 for example, not Loki, who was more a treacherous ally of the protagonist, even if he is still a villainous person. He is probably the main villain in Thor although the King Of The Frost Giants fits that too. In The Avengers Loki completely fulfills the role of the traditional primary antagonist imo (and even there he is framed more as a pawn of the leader of the Chitauri, but he has so little presence I'd count Loki as the primary antagonist), though incidentally I think that's Loki's worst film and could have used a different primary antagonist.
Of course maybe there's something to be said for Marvel relying less heavily on each superhero film basically being its villain ("The One Where Batman Faces The Joker", "The One Where Spiderman Faces Doctor Octopus"), but the fact remains that in my opinion if you go through the list of MCU main villains you don't get that many great or memorable ones, and their best one (Loki) is actually at his best when not playing the role of the Big Bad. It hasn't been much of a hindrance to them so far because many of the films have been introducing us to new main characters for the first time, and The Avengers had a bunch of different heroes interacting for the first time, so those films haven't been as dependent on a villain for their plot. I don't think it's a coincidence that two of the worst received films in the series were simple direct sequels (Iron Man 2, Thor 2), the type of films that could really have used a more interesting or memorable villain. Captain America 2, although a sequel, benefitted from a different setting for its main character and did a better job with its antagonists (The Winter Soldier was a pretty cool memorable "physical antagonist", and the old guy in the suit that is in charge of the organisation you work for being the villain may not be too original but it works well for action movies). And I think a big part of what made Iron Man 3 better than 2 was the... interesting approach taken with the antagonist(s).
By doing lots of different film franchises to keep things fresh, Marvel might be avoiding the need to rely on strong villains to stay good (you can bet they'd need a villain with the impact of Heath Ledger's Joker to stay successful if instead of having just had a 10th MCU film, we had just had Iron Man 7), but as we get into more direct sequels I'd like to see some better villains ahead. Though as has been pointed out to me, the best / most known Marvel villain IPs seem come from X Men and Spiderman so the MCU might not have great source material to work with...
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I think Loki was just as much a villain in Thor 2 as he was in the first. The prime villain of the film was, I suppose, Malekith, but Thor fighting alongside Loki was just because he was the lesser of two evils. He wasn't ever not a villain.
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Maybe I'm naive but I like to think that there's more to it than someone either being good or bad. I want to think that there are various shades of personality traits and decisions, actions that goes into how we view someone. I'm not against labeling Loki as a villain, but if the characters are either heroes or villains, that just seems like a very black/white way to view it.
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I think Loki was just as much a villain in Thor 2 as he was in the first. The prime villain of the film was, I suppose, Malekith, but Thor fighting alongside Loki was just because he was the lesser of two evils. He wasn't ever not a villain.
Exactly. His ambition is to rule Asgard. That was set up in Thor. In Avengers, he assured his return to Asgard. In Thor 2, he cooperated with Thor because (1) it got him out of prison, and (2) it kept Asgard from being destroyed. Both of these furthered Loki's goal.
Maybe I'm naive but I like to think that there's more to it than someone either being good or bad. I want to think that there are various shades of personality traits and decisions, actions that goes into how we view someone. I'm not against labeling Loki as a villain, but if the characters are either heroes or villains, that just seems like a very black/white way to view it.
You are blurring two concepts together. A villain can have some good in him and/or do some good things, just as a hero can have some bad in him or have done some bad things. Hero/villain and good/bad are not the same thing.
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Loki is definitely a complex character, which is why he is so captivating to watch. But he is still a villain.
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Latino Review is reporting that a deal is done between Sony and Marvel for Spider-Man to appear in Avengers: Infinity War Pt. 1. I don't want to discuss the full story because it involves mulitple massive spoilers regarding the Phase 3 films - if true, of course, which it may not be.
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Well, let me just say that I have NEVER known Latino Review to be wrong about anything. Then again, I never heard of Latino Review before your post. But still.
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Well, let me just say that I have NEVER known Latino Review to be wrong about anything. Then again, I never heard of Latino Review before your post. But still.
Actually, they have a history of being hit or miss with "scoops." They have definitely gotten some things right in the past, and have royally screwed up.
Until Marvel says something, this definitely just counts as "rumor." But if so, it will be exciting.
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***Sorta spoilers related to Age of Ultron and beyond***
I have seen some references to a tie-in/introduction of Black Panther in Age of Ultron. Based on some things in both trailers, it seems highly likely. And, if true, I think it is a great move. Outside hardcore comics geeks, a lot of people are not familiar with the character. Heck, I was a comic geek, and I'm not familiar. This is a great opportunity to create incentive for people to want to see the movie instead of perhaps writing it off as "just some random Marvel super hero movie."
If so, that will also tie Black Panther to Ultron, which I think will likely directly play into Civil War.
I think 'dis gon' be gud! :caffeine:
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Agreed. No matter what happens.
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The Spidey situation is so messed up. I would never in a million ways think it was possible if someone had asked me a year ago, but after TASM2 under-performing, Sony as a company going really bad and their various "lets save our Spidey universe" meetings, who knows what will happen? On one hand it would be nice to see Spidey with the other Avengers, but on the other hands it would be annoying to only get a Spidey movie every 5th-6th year, because Marvel already has so many movies planned.
Sony completely dropped the ball no matter how this turns out. And they have a Sinister Six movie planned and TASM3 & TASM4 announced. So the situation is just weird.
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I read one report that Sony has denied Spidey's inclusion in Infinity War. We'll see what happens.
I would much rather Spidey be moved into the MCU than for Sony to make any more films having to do with him, much less nonsensical features about Venom of the Sinister Six. *shudders*
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I have for a rather long time had the opinion that Spider-Man needs to go away from movies for a while. By now it just feels as if they're covering up a murder by just murdering more people.
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I have for a rather long time had the opinion that Spider-Man needs to go away from movies for a while.
That would be better than Sony making any more.
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At this point it feels like a loss either way it turns out:
Scenario A: Sony keeps making Spider-Man movies (clearly they have no idea how to do it well)
Scenario B: Spider-Man goes back to Marvel (and we get a second reboot and one Spidey movie every 5 years)
Scenario C: No Spider-Man Movies for a few years (so many great potential stories lost)
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Scenario B wouldn't be a movie every 5 years. Not sure where that number came from.
I would imagine that we are getting to the point where Downey, Hemsworth, and Evans are near the ends of their contracts, and one way or another, their characters won't be as prevalent post-Infinity War. They are doing a good job of laying groundwork for future franchises, like GOTG and the upcoming Ant-Man, Black Panther, Captain Marvel, and The Inhumans, but this would be the perfect time to get their heavy hitter Spider-Man back in the fold and make new films to carry the banner in the event the banner won't include Iron Man, Thor, or Captain America (in their present forms, at any rate).
I don't see why it wouldn't be a new film every 2-3 years, like they have done with their other franchises.
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Well, even though I agree that the main Avengers are probably gonna be used very sparsely over the next few years (after Cap 3 and Thor 3), they have already announced basically 2 movies per year up until 2018/2019 or something. While they could probably squeeze Spider-Man into the mix somehow, I think there is a certain fatigue and disappointment in the air that doesn't just go away. The first Raimi movie was when, 2002? If Marvel gets their hands on this, we'll get our third Spider-Man incarnation in less than 15 years, which does seem like a lot.
Marvel would probably do well with Spider-Man since they know the character in and out, and has a good creative team making the movies (something Sony clearly lacks), but I think my main disappointment with another reboot is that it feels like we never get forward. They gotta do Green Goblin and Octopus again (because those are the main enemies) and we get further away from those fan favorite enemies a lot of people want to see. Like a good Venom/Carnage story, or Mysterio, Kraven or Vulture. It's kind of a bummer that Sony dropped the ball, because their idea of setting up Sinister Six was epic, and I think a lot of us would have nerdgasmed hard if they pulled it off. Marvel could probably pull a Sinister Six thing off, but that's another 10-15 years down the line after setting up their own Spidey universe. You don't lead with a Sinister Six movie.
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IMO, they don't need to do another reboot. IF Marvel picks up Spidey at all, they can just drop him into the existing Marvel universe as if he's been there for awhile. We don't NEED another origin story. Absent a few tweaks in the two recent ones, Spider Man's origin is what it always has been. We know how Spider Man became Spider Man. They can do what they did with Hulk and just pick up down the road, assuming people basically know how he became who he is. Or they can set it up with a post-credits scene or Marvel one-shot showing Von Strucker using gamma rays or Loki's staff to experiment on spiders or something for all I care. But we do not need a "reboot" in the classic sense that starts with an origin story. Just drop him in and go.
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I don't know that there is a good Venom or Carnage story to tell. But I would LOVE to see Mysterio or Kraven.
I actually think that, even though he is a huge, huge name, Spidey might be better off going the route of Marvel's Netflix line. A 13-hour show. It would be neat, and all of those characters are NYC based, as well.
And I agree, no need for another telling of the origin.
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That's a good point. They could probably make a stand-alone Spider-Man movie that starts with him already being Spider-Man, and maybe show it or explain how it happened as a quick re-cap during the credits when the movie starts. I was thinking something similar to how the Raimi Spider-Man movies started with all the web and going through different images, they could quite quickly tell how it happened without having to dedicate a full movie to it. Maybe even a 30 second-1 minute narration by Peter Parker himself explaining it.
On one hand, the transformation is kinda key. The main hook of Spider-Man for a lot of people was seeing this nerdy kid adjust to being a superhero, and if you already start with him being Spider-Man, some of that personality might be lost. But on the other hand Marvel has a fantastic track record, so they could pretty much do whatever they want, and it would still probably be good.
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I don't think they even need to do that much. Again, in Hulk, they didn't do that, and I think the movie was better for it. We know how Hulk became Hulk. We don't need to see it again.
People know who Spider Man is. Just drop him into one of the other films (Civil War would be perfect). Boom!--people know he is an existing part of the universe, and you can do a standalone movie any time.
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Yeah, just retire Spider-man, (give it up, Sony, you suck) end the story lines with their current characters. If Marvel can somehow get the rights to Spider-Man, reboot it again after The Infinity War (if he's not in that, oh well) and create a new Spider-Man centric universe, and have the original Avengers reprise their roles for support. I'm sure RDJ, CH, MR, and CE wouldn't mind that after a long break.
And for fucks sake, bring in Thomas Jane as The Punisher. Sure it wont be an R rating, but he belongs with the other characters. Hell, convince Wesley Snipes to not be a douche and come back as Blade. Then you can introduce Morbius. Yes, I did watch the animated series growing up.
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I thought Thomas Jane did a pretty good job as the Punisher, but I doubt Marvel goes backwards like that if and when they make a new film (although I think the character would be ideal for a Netflix series).
I like the Blade films a lot, but I would be surprised if that character ever comes back. Although Marvel did announce sometime in the last year or so that the film rights had reverted back to them (same with the Punisher).
As of right now, the only characters that Marvel Studios don't have the film rights to are the ones associated with Spider-Man, the X-Men, and the Fantastic Four. They sort of co-hold rights to Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch with Fox, and they have the rights to Namor, but not free and clear - they could use him, but there is some red tape involved.
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I don't think we'll ever see Blade or Punisher on screen together with the Avengers. I think Blade and Punisher are characters that needs to be R-rated for them to work, and I think Marvel knows that. I know people said the same about Deadpool and it looks like Fox are making that movie PG-13, but I think the sheer nature of Blade/Punisher as characters makes it necessary to have a darker tone. I could sort of see Marvel create a separate kind of universe with a darker tone, where characters like Blade and Punisher could show up and cross over, but they feel kinda out of place in the context of Avengers.
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They wouldn't be with the Avengers. But the Avengers aren't the only things in the MCU. There is room there for characters like Punisher and Blade, but yes, they would need to be darker in tone. That's why I suggested the Netflix series.
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Yeah, speaking of that, is the new Daredevil series part of the MCU? Or is it a stand alone Marvel project?
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Yeah, speaking of that, is the new Daredevil series part of the MCU? Or is it a stand alone Marvel project?
Everything Marvel Studios makes is part of the MCU. There are no stand alone Marvel projects.
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...they have the rights to Namor, but not free and clear - they could use him, but there is some red tape involved.
Well, he has been referenced. Not sure if that bodes for actual inclusion of him somewhere along the way, or if it was just a nugget.
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...they have the rights to Namor, but not free and clear - they could use him, but there is some red tape involved.
Well, he has been referenced. Not sure if that bodes for actual inclusion of him somewhere along the way, or if it was just a nugget.
Are you talking about the screen supposedly showing Atlantis in IM2?
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And the newspaper clipping referencing Atlantis, yes. When I first read about these, I thought they were just cool little nuggets to get Marvel fans extra geeked up. But that same screen also referenced Wakanda, and we now know Black Panther will be appearing soon, so...
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And the newspaper clipping referencing Atlantis, yes. When I first read about these, I thought they were just cool little nuggets to get Marvel fans extra geeked up. But that same screen also referenced Wakanda, and we now know Black Panther will be appearing soon, so...
I don't remember a newspaper clipping. Where was that?
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And the newspaper clipping referencing Atlantis, yes. When I first read about these, I thought they were just cool little nuggets to get Marvel fans extra geeked up. But that same screen also referenced Wakanda, and we now know Black Panther will be appearing soon, so...
I don't remember a newspaper clipping. Where was that?
It is REALLY hard to make out. But the clipping is on Ivan Vanko's workshop wall in Russia, and it has two surfaced submarines and the word "Atlantis."
Pretty obscure, but the fact that there is more than one reference and the fact that the Wakanda reference actually is going to give Black Panther makes me wonder.
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Since both of those are in IM2, didn't specifically name Namor, and given the rights issue, I would almost bet those were things thrown in by Favreau without any real plan for the future.
I would love to see Namor (when done correctly, easily one of my favorite characters from the comics), but I'm not sure how he would fit in to the MCU. In the comics, he has been active since WWII, and fought beside Captain America then, but there has been no mention of him. It would be hard to go back now and retcon him in with that history.
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And the newspaper clipping referencing Atlantis, yes. When I first read about these, I thought they were just cool little nuggets to get Marvel fans extra geeked up. But that same screen also referenced Wakanda, and we now know Black Panther will be appearing soon, so...
I don't remember a newspaper clipping. Where was that?
It is REALLY hard to make out. But the clipping is on Ivan Vanko's workshop wall in Russia, and it has two surfaced submarines and the word "Atlantis."
Pretty obscure, but the fact that there is more than one reference and the fact that the Wakanda reference actually is going to give Black Panther makes me wonder.
Also, in the episode of AoS just before the mid-season finale when the team is shown the location of the city, Trip says "isn't that in the Bermuda Triangle?" and Coulson said no, they solved that in the '80's. Trip then comes back with, "Uh...Atlantis?".
I may or may not have plowed through the show in the last 2 weeks...
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Dr. Who joins the Marvel Universe (https://marvel.com/news/tv/23978/david_tennant_joins_marvels_aka_jessica_jones_for_netflix) (well, kinda)
This is unbelievably awesome. Marvel kicks it up a notch, again.
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My interest in this has suddenly risen considerably.
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My interest in this has suddenly risen considerably.
No kidding.
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I have no idea who Jessica Jones is or what that show is about. How does it relate to Marvel?
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I have no idea who Jessica Jones is or what that show is about. How does it relate to Marvel?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessica_Jones
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I have no idea who Jessica Jones is or what that show is about. How does it relate to Marvel?
She is part of the foursome of heroes who will have shows on Netflix over the next couple of years (hers will be the second one, behind Daredevil, which debuts in April; then will come Luke Cage and Iron Fist). Each will have a season of 13 one-hour episodes, and will lead up to a team-up show called The Defenders. These shows will be somewhat interrelated, all set in rough-and-tumble NYC, and will be grittier than most MCU fare thus far. But they are definitely part of the MCU.
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Which sucks for us who don't have Netflix but it's the new game that media plays these days.
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It's really no different than shows on cable. And honestly it's probably a smarter business model, I think network TV is probably on the way out.
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No network TV is not on it's way out. :lol It's another revenue stream. It's hard for us nerds who love the comic book story lines to follow when it's so specific to one service. That's all.
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It's good motivation to get Netflix, which I will be doing.
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Edit: Posted in the wrong thread
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Last nights Agent Carter was good. Although that ear tell Jarvis did was a bit silly.
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Last nights Agent Carter was good. Although that ear tell Jarvis did was a bit silly.
Same here. I enjoyed the episode, but I would have preferred a tell that wasn't quite so obvious.
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It's good motivation to get Netflix, which I will be doing.
I already have cable and a DVR. No more money spending for me.
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I don't do toys/figures/collectables, but this is pretty cool, and I kind of want it.
LEGO SHIELD Helicarrier set (https://collider.com/lego-helicarrier-avengers-shield-images/)
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AoS season 2 spoilers!!!
1. Sif is going to return. Apparently, she is going to have short-term memory loss and is going to provide some levity, which the show's top brass feel is needed after so much betrayal and death. https://tvline.com/2015/02/09/agents-of-shield-season-2-lady-sif-returns-amnesia/ Not sure how I feel about this. It could be awesome. It could be bad.
2. At least one other Inhuman has been added to the cast. https://tvline.com/2015/02/05/agents-of-shield-season-2-cast-luke-mitchell-inhuman/ :caffeine:
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Yep. Should be interesting.
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How would loss of short term memory make her forget Thor? Haven't they known each other like all their lives? Or am I misunderstanding the meaning of 'short-term' memory?
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Sorry, I thought I read "short term memory" somewhere, but everywhere I have been seeing says "amnesia." Sorry for the confusion.
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https://marvel.com/news/movies/24062/sony_pictures_entertainment_brings_marvel_studios_into_the_amazing_world_of_spider-man
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About. Damn. Time.
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It doesn't mention anything about Andrew Garfield. I think they're gonna go ahead with a re-cast.
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I feel like they will have to integrate him with an upcoming movie. I would love it to be Captain America: Civil War, but it may be Infinity Wars. But who knows!
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https://screencrush.com/spider-man-marvel-cinematic-universe/
i find it interesting how this is affecting the release schedule for the rest of the Phase 3 films, really throwing the schedule off. I'll be interested in seeing this develop the next few days :tup
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Oh fuck me, I have wait another 3 years to see a Black Panther movie?!?
...I guess this deal is worth it.
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Dammit. Let Spider-Man die for god's sake. I guess it'll be interesting to see what he'll do, but my overall reaction is just a big sigh.
Sorry, I thought I read "short term memory" somewhere, but everywhere I have been seeing says "amnesia." Sorry for the confusion.
No I read it too, it's in the article you linked. But that same article also states that she won't remember Thor.
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This Spider-Man news is the best possible, barring the actual transfer of the character to Marvel Studios outright. It's good that Kevin Feige will be co-producing the new Spidey films. He, at least, knows what the hell he is doing.
My guess is Spidey appears in Civil War first; the other two options on the schedule before his film, Doctor Strange and Guardians of the Galaxy 2, seem highly unlikely.
Another option: a post-credits scene in Age of Ultron or Ant-Man. But I doubt that.
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Another option: a post-credits scene in Age of Ultron or Ant-Man. But I doubt that.
I'd say it's way too late for that. And I've been thinking that it's too late for him to be in Civil War as well, but maybe not.
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Another option: a post-credits scene in Age of Ultron or Ant-Man. But I doubt that.
I'd say it's way too late for that. And I've been thinking that it's too late for him to be in Civil War as well, but maybe not.
It's not too late for a post-credits shot in either of those, to just film something with him in it. The shwarma scene at the end of The Avengers was filmed a week or two before release.
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it also requires casting though, which the Shawarma scene didn't need. They'll want to get Spiderman right and not rush the casting process. But a scene in Civil War is pretty doable i think
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About. Damn. Time.
Really ? Spider-Man is easily the worst superhero. I was beyond relieved that he wasn't in Avengers Assemble to ruin it.
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About. Damn. Time.
Really ? Spider-Man is easily the worst superhero. I was beyond relieved that he wasn't in Avengers Assemble to ruin it.
You're a crazy person.
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Spider-Man is besides Superman and Batman the most popular superhero of all time. I'm not crazy about his movies, and I haven't read any comics. But I asume he is that popular for a reason, and the movies just hasn't done him justice.
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I thought Tobey Maguire did a great job with the character in his first film. The next two were just bad scripts, unfortunately. Lots of cool stuff going on, but it ultimately just did not quite work together very well.
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Sam Raimi's first film was decent - I thought the 2nd was a bit better but that third film was beyond shite.
I've heard nothing but dreadful things about Marc Webb's movies
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I thought Tobey Maguire did a great job with the character in his first film. The next two were just bad scripts, unfortunately. Lots of cool stuff going on, but it ultimately just did not quite work together very well.
Spider-Man 2 is widely regarded as the best of the series (not by me, but by many critics). Not sure why you think that one had a bad script; it was really good.
Spider-Man 3 was just awful, but I put the blame on the suits, not Raimi.
I haven't watched either of the Webb films in full, but I've seen bits and pieces. They look good, but there are apparently major narrative problems.
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I think Spider-Man 2 is the best one as well. In fact, it is the only Spider-Man movie out there that I genuinely like.
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I thought Tobey Maguire did a great job with the character in his first film. The next two were just bad scripts, unfortunately. Lots of cool stuff going on, but it ultimately just did not quite work together very well.
Spider-Man 2 is widely regarded as the best of the series (not by me, but by many critics). Not sure why you think that one had a bad script; it was really good.
Honestly, it's been so long since I have seen them that I do not recall it all that clearly and am blurring 2 and 3 together quite a bit in my mind. Personally, I thought the first was far and away the best. But not a big deal either way. I didn't even hate the third one--I just thought it got out of control and got too silly.
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Raimi's Spider-Man, and especially Spider-Man 2 should be in the conversation for best superhero movies IMO. The new Spider-Man movies did a lot of things right, but they also messed up the fundamentals. I think the big difference is that Sam Raimi is one of the best directors out there (at least top25 IMO) and Marc Webb was basically an unknown. Watch the Spider-Man movies back to back and it really becomes clear that what makes the Raimi movies the better ones is that Raimi is just a much better director. He knows how to put together a compelling story and execute it, and those movies have some really memorable parts.
So many "iconic" scenes, like when Uncle Ben gets shot and Peter goes into the back-alley, suiting up to the exciting score by Danny Elfman, or the great train sequence in Spider-Man 2. Even the third movie, which had some plot-problems, pacing-problems and many other issues still had some really great scenes. Webb did some things right with his version, and Garfield is arguably a better Spider-Man, but those Raimi movies have heart. They have an emotional core that was kinda lacking from the new ones.
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Raimi's Spider-Man, and especially Spider-Man 2 should be in the conversation for best superhero movies IMO. The new Spider-Man movies did a lot of things right, but they also messed up the fundamentals. I think the big difference is that Sam Raimi is one of the best directors out there (at least top25 IMO) and Marc Webb was basically an unknown. Watch the Spider-Man movies back to back and it really becomes clear that what makes the Raimi movies the better ones is that Raimi is just a much better director. He knows how to put together a compelling story and execute it, and those movies have some really memorable parts.
So many "iconic" scenes, like when Uncle Ben gets shot and Peter goes into the back-alley, suiting up to the exciting score by Danny Elfman, or the great train sequence in Spider-Man 2. Even the third movie, which had some plot-problems, pacing-problems and many other issues still had some really great scenes. Webb did some things right with his version, and Garfield is arguably a better Spider-Man, but those Raimi movies have heart. They have an emotional core that was kinda lacking from the new ones.
I agree with all of this.
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Another option: a post-credits scene in Age of Ultron or Ant-Man. But I doubt that.
I'd say it's way too late for that. And I've been thinking that it's too late for him to be in Civil War as well, but maybe not.
I read a rumor that they actually wrote 2 versions of the Civil War script (one with Spidey, one without) in case this deal went through.
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Another option: a post-credits scene in Age of Ultron or Ant-Man. But I doubt that.
I'd say it's way too late for that. And I've been thinking that it's too late for him to be in Civil War as well, but maybe not.
Actually, I believe they did shoot that shawarma scene a few months prior to the release of The Avengers. It's still possible to see our friendly neighborhood Spider-Man swing by...even for shawarma
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Another option: a post-credits scene in Age of Ultron or Ant-Man. But I doubt that.
I'd say it's way too late for that. And I've been thinking that it's too late for him to be in Civil War as well, but maybe not.
I read a rumor that they actually wrote 2 versions of the Civil War script (one with Spidey, one without) in case this deal went through.
I'm not surprised. You don't spend months (years?) negotiating with Sony to get a key character and once the papers are signed go, "Oh crap, what are we going to do with him?".
You don't even have to have Peter Parker cast yet to do a nod in a post-credits scene, or even a reference in the film itself.
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I would imagine that even if there are not two different "versions" of the script, they probably have a plan A and plan B where certain events and dialog will be assigned to Spidey if they got him, and those events and dialog would just be assigned to some other character, with some tweaks, if it did not work out.
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I think post-credits Avengers is unlikely, because it will probably take some time before they even announce their Spider-Man, and Avengers is coming out pretty soon, and I just think it's too far gone. I think there's a strong chance we'll see Ant-Man related stuff in the post-credit scene though. MAAAYBEEEE a Spidey cameo in the Ant-Man post-credits scene is possible.
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I laugh every time I read someone state it's too late to bring Spiderman in to The Avengers. Sound more like a preference that in actuality.
They bring in new characters all the time. Of course they can. He just won't be a big focus like his own films and that's fine. I like that Captain America has his own side storylines and then they all have a lesser role in the Avengers. The some of the parts make those movies a whole, and a great one at that.
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They certainly could include him in a post-credits scene in Avengers. Even if the role is not cast, it isn't hard to have some guy in a suit act the part for a short :30 post-credits scene. But I personally don't think they will. I mean, it's certainly possible. But civil war seems like the most likely place to use Spidey, and I'm not sure they need/want to tease civil war in the post-credits scene. I think it will be amply set up by the end of the movie itself, and the post-credits scene will go in a different direction altogether. That's my hunch.
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Considering it looks like they'll be retiring the current main line-up of Avengers (Cap, Thor, Iron Man, possibly Hulk, depending on if Ruffalo ever gets his own movie) in favor of bringing in Black Panther, Captain Marvel, The Inhumans, Doctor Strange and more, it wouldn't be impossible to fit Spider-Man into that line-up. It's not like the old team is gonna be gone forever, I think they could show up eventually, but I think the main line-up will change for a few years after Avengers 3.
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I'm not sure it will be a complete lineup change, but we'll see. We will obviously have three additions in Age of Ultron. And Hulk is going to be gone by the end. But not sure about the others. Cap and Thor don't appear to be going anywhere, for example. But it has hard to say where they are going, other than the fact that we will probably see a huge Avengers/Inhumans team-up vs. Thanos in Infinity War II.
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well the Inhumans won't be in Infinity War since the schedule shakeup pushed Inhumans to after Infinity War pt 2..
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well the Inhumans won't be in Infinity War since the schedule shakeup pushed Inhumans to after Infinity War pt 2..
I'm not so sure of that. Wait and see. That article only gave part of the revised schedule. And it did not seem like any of it is set in stone. Just wait for Marvel to make an official announcement. I am pretty sure the order will stay the same. The Inhumans teaming up with the Avengers is pretty much the ONLY way Thanos doesn't win.
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i assumed that information came officially from Marvel, it was in the articles i saw last night after the initial announcement. it makes sense that there has to be some moves, because the new Spiderman takes the spot of Thor: Ragnarok. Every film in phase three from then on is pushed back one slot, except for the two infinity wars. this now means black panther is after the first infinity war, and inhumans comes after after the second part. again assuming this is all true, which I'm assuming it is
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But why would you think that all the phase 3 films would get pushed back except Avengers? That doesn't make sense.
Oh, and this is amazing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOyJqGtP-wU
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Another option: a post-credits scene in Age of Ultron or Ant-Man. But I doubt that.
I'd say it's way too late for that. And I've been thinking that it's too late for him to be in Civil War as well, but maybe not.
Actually, I believe they did shoot that shawarma scene a few months prior to the release of The Avengers. It's still possible to see our friendly neighborhood Spider-Man swing by...even for shawarma
No, it was very shortly before release of the film.
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because its listed that way in the announcement, and it let the two Avengers keep their prime-time slots in may.
https://screencrush.com/marvel-spider-man-updated-release-dates/
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But why would you think that all the phase 3 films would get pushed back except Avengers? That doesn't make sense.
Because that is what Marvel said.
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But why would you think that all the phase 3 films would get pushed back except Avengers? That doesn't make sense.
Because that is what Marvel said.
I do agree with bosk though, it doesn't really make sense unless they're making some changes to how the MCU story is developing (or indeed if it wasn't dependent on that aspect of the release order in the first place).
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Another option: a post-credits scene in Age of Ultron or Ant-Man. But I doubt that.
I'd say it's way too late for that. And I've been thinking that it's too late for him to be in Civil War as well, but maybe not.
Actually, I believe they did shoot that shawarma scene a few months prior to the release of The Avengers. It's still possible to see our friendly neighborhood Spider-Man swing by...even for shawarma
No, it was very shortly before release of the film.
Chris Evans is hiding his face in that scene to cover his beard that he grew for another role.
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Yeah, wikipedia confirms what I remember reading before or seeing in an interview: they filmed the shwarma scene the day after the world premiere. Apparently Whedon thought it would be funny, but the movie was about to come out, so the next time everyone would be together would be the premiere. So the next day they got together, got into costume, and filmed it, and it was added to the film for release.
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But why would you think that all the phase 3 films would get pushed back except Avengers? That doesn't make sense.
Because that is what Marvel said.
Except that Marvel did not say that. Marvel only mentioned three release dates that would be impacted, and the author of that article (who is NOT Marvel) is merely assuming that anything that was not yet mentioned is staying the same.
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But why would you think that all the phase 3 films would get pushed back except Avengers? That doesn't make sense.
Because that is what Marvel said.
Except that Marvel did not say that. Marvel only mentioned three release dates that would be impacted, and the author of that article (who is NOT Marvel) is merely assuming that anything that was not yet mentioned is staying the same.
I don't see why that isn't a valid assumption.
The previous release dates were announced. Marvel is now announcing that several are being moved. Therefore, the others that weren't mentioned as being moved aren't being moved. Which isn't to say they may NOT be moved.
But at this point, there is no reason to think otherwise.
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Bad assumption to assume that silence affirmatively means something.
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Sticking with the facts, Marvel has announced three moves, so those have definitely moved.
They have not made any further announcements. This suggests that no new dates have been set, but does not mean that Marvel isn't at least planning for the other films to move. It may simply be that they are trying to establish what possible dates films could be moved to. At this point, it's all just speculation though.
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Bad assumption to assume that silence affirmatively means something.
No it isn't. They clearly made an announcement of movies to be moved. So those are the ones to be moved.
Again, they may, in the future, move others, but to date, there is only evidence of the moves they actually announced. If they intended others at this time, they would have announced them at this time.
Any other conclusion is pure speculation.
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Bad assumption to assume that silence affirmatively means something.
No it isn't. They clearly made an announcement of movies to be moved. So those are the ones to be moved.
Except that, again, you are reading things into the "announcement" that weren't there. The "announcement" was about the inclusion of Spiderman. As an aside, it was mentioned that that would of necessity bump two movies because of a direct conflict with the planned Spiderman film in the timeline. He never got into how that was going to impact the planned release schedule overall. That simply was not part of the announcement.
So, as you put it, any other conclusion (including any conclusion that the other dates are somehow set in stone and not moving) is pure speculation.
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No one is saying the dates are set in stone and aren't subject to change. But if you ask anyone at Marvel about the current release dates of their films, they would point to the previously announced dates, as well as the updated dates for a select few. Unless they announce otherwise, the release dates haven't changed, and any suggestion to the contrary is purely speculation.
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Bad assumption to assume that silence affirmatively means something.
No it isn't. They clearly made an announcement of movies to be moved. So those are the ones to be moved.
Except that, again, you are reading things into the "announcement" that weren't there.
No I'm not. I'm reading ONLY what is there, which is that some of the films are being moved.
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But if you ask anyone at Marvel about the current release dates of their films, they would point to the previously announced dates, as well as the updated dates for a select few.
How do you know what anyone at Marvel would do? As far as I know, the only thing Marvel has officially announced is that it is partnering with Sony to include Spider Man in some Marvel film(s) and that Sony is doing a new Spider Man film. And from what I can tell, it seems that a change in release dates for two movies may (or may not) have come from Marvel as well. But I have yet to see confirmation from Marvel on that, and I have yet to see confirmation that talk of two others moving is anything but speculation on the part of journalists.
So that all goes back to my original question to countoftuscany42 about why believe that anything beyond what has been officially said is true?
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But if you ask anyone at Marvel about the current release dates of their films, they would point to the previously announced dates, as well as the updated dates for a select few.
How do you know what anyone at Marvel would do?
https://marvel.com/news/movies/24065/marvel_studios_schedules_new_release_dates_for_4_films
Four future installments in the Marvel Cinematic Universe have received new release dates through 2019, including Thor’s next solo adventure as well as the first films for Black Panther, Captain Marvel and the Inhumans!
Marvel’s “Thor: Ragnarok” will hit theaters November 3, 2017. The following year, Marvel’s “Black Panther” will make its way to theaters on July 6, 2018, and Marvel’s “Captain Marvel” on November 2, 2018. Finally, Marvel’s “Inhumans” will now debut in theaters July 12, 2019.
The previously announced dates for Marvel’s “Avengers: Infinity War Part 1” and “Avengers: Infinity War Part 2” on May 4, 2018 and May 3, 2019, respectively, remain unchanged.
Stay tuned to Marvel.com for the latest on the Marvel Cinematic Universe as it breaks!
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I thought Tobey Maguire did a great job with the character in his first film. The next two were just bad scripts, unfortunately. Lots of cool stuff going on, but it ultimately just did not quite work together very well.
Spider-Man 2 is widely regarded as the best of the series (not by me, but by many critics). Not sure why you think that one had a bad script; it was really good.
To take this a bit further: for a few years, there was a period where Spider-Man 2 was among the very best superhero movies, i.e. the gold standard to which other superhero movies were held. This was 12 years ago, though, and things have been different since the MCU hit its stride and the Dark Knight trilogy.
If Marvel can take Spidey and elevate him to his "former cinematic glory", so to speak, then I'm going to be a very happy camper. And Civil War was never going to make much sense without him, so it's good he'll finally be included.
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https://marvel.com/news/movies/24065/marvel_studios_schedules_new_release_dates_for_4_films
Ah, so it is official word from Marvel. Glad someone finally posted something from the actual source.
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https://marvel.com/news/movies/24065/marvel_studios_schedules_new_release_dates_for_4_films
Ah, so it is official word from Marvel. Glad someone finally posted something from the actual source.
The actual source was referenced with a link in the original post being discussed.
https://screencrush.com/spider-man-marvel-cinematic-universe/
i find it interesting how this is affecting the release schedule for the rest of the Phase 3 films, really throwing the schedule off. I'll be interested in seeing this develop the next few days :tup
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My main concern about this Spider-Man development is that I don't think anyone has explicitly stated whether the two Marc Webb films will be folded into MCU canon. I don't imagine they will be, but I won't rest easy until someone explicitly says they won't be.
Other than that, I have a lot of trouble picturing Spider-Man in an MCU film at all, but In Feige I Trust. And I'll always have Raimi/Tobey Spidey.
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Here's a thought: If they do recast Spidey(and I'm just saying IF), what if they picked Tobey Maguire?
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I'd start a petition for Danny Devito.
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There's no way the Marc Webb Spider-Man will have anything to do with this. I'm 110% sure this is a brand new version, and it's the best solution.
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Apparently Logan Lerman and the main dude from The Maze Runner are up for the role.
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There's no way the Marc Webb Spider-Man will have anything to do with this. I'm 110% sure this is a brand new version, and it's the best solution.
This. They keep referring to "the new Spider-Man." If Marc Webb's version was what they wanted, there would be no need for this.
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More of Sif and Agents of SHIELD: https://marvel.com/news/tv/24063/the_lady_sif_returns_to_marvels_agents_of_shield.
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Damn it: "Ctrl+F" search for "movie" and I always go to the wrong thread.
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More of Sif and Agents of SHIELD: https://marvel.com/news/tv/24063/the_lady_sif_returns_to_marvels_agents_of_shield.
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The Agent Carter finale was great. I do however have a problem with hypnosis in TV and movies, always have. It is something I dislike quite strongly. But it was done well enough for me not to dislike the show as a whole.
The post credit scene was cool as well. When it started I was thinking "okay, they are clearly setting up some cool character appearance, lets just hope it's worth it", and I thought it delivered.
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Not *quite* Marvel - but Big Hero 6 is amazing. Such a fun film.
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The Agent Carter finale was great. I do however have a problem with hypnosis in TV and movies, always have. It is something I dislike quite strongly. But it was done well enough for me not to dislike the show as a whole.
The post credit scene was cool as well. When it started I was thinking "okay, they are clearly setting up some cool character appearance, lets just hope it's worth it", and I thought it delivered.
I agree with all of this.
I hope they can work something out for a second season of Agent Carter.
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Okay, this has bothered me for a LONG time, and I have yet to see anyone at Marvel or anywhere else even attempt to address this gaping plot hole: Tony Stark lives a few minutes from downtown Los Angeles and has traveled the world many times over. How in the world does he not know what shawarma is? That doesn't make sense at all.
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"Let me tell you about the very rich. They are different from you and me." - F Scott Fitzgerald
Just because the common folk know about something has nothing to do with whether or not the ultra rich know about it.
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Yes, but we're not talking about the "ultra-rich" in the abstract. We're talking about the dude who, after a near death experience and could have had whatever he wanted, got a cheeseburger. Tony knows what's up.
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After a near life/death experience, Nobody wants a cheeseburger since everybody has had a cheeseburger. They ask, "I've never told this girl I love her and never had a shawarma before".
It's all about what could have been done.
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Proper Shawarma in a wrap - not the kind that comes in a pitta bread - are fookin delicious. But so greasy and unhealthy :lol
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What is shwarma? Never bothered to find out. It sounds awful, just the name.
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Proper Shawarma in a wrap - not the kind that comes in a pitta bread - are fookin delicious. But so greasy and unhealthy :lol
I prefer it in a wrap as well. But either way is "proper"--just depends on the region it is from. But I have never had it be greasy. I think you are shawarmaing wrong.
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Ready for the return of Agents of SHIELD?
I certainly am.
Also, the Russo Brothers have signed a first-look agreement with Sony. I would imagine that at least part of their time there will involve the integration of Spider-Man and the MCU.
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I am really annoyed with the speculation that Raina is Tigra. I mean, I have been from day 1 when I first saw postings and stories about it. But I just saw another one.
Before the new image hit the stands, most of the Raina theories were cat-based (one of the most popular was the Tigra theory). After all, there was a very feline look to that eye, no?
NO! There is NOTHING feline about her look whatsoever. Cats have elliptical pupils. Raina clearly does NOT. And even her eye shape is a far cry from anything feline. Why are people even saying this? :rant:
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Edit: wrong thread
For fuck's sake
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so guys quick question re: agents of shield. Is the show actually worth watching for someone who's a fan of Joss, but not really Marvel generally? Because I love most everything Joss is associated with, but am mostly kinda apathetic towards most Marvel stuff.
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I'm the opposite of you in that I don't know much Joss Whedon outside of Marvel stuff (will look to remedy that soon), but here are my two cents: Yes, I think the show is worth watching even for someone who isn't a Marvel aficionado. If you like what I assume is Whedon's method of writing story arcs and characters (I assume this because it's pretty distinctive), this show should be worth it for you. There are a lot of great character arcs.
The one thing is that you might need some slight knowledge from the Marvel films to get aspects of the show. So far, as best as I can remember, you'll probably want to at least read a recap of Thor: The Dark World before watching episode 8 ("The Well"), and a recap of Thor—at least enough to know the character Sif—for episode 15 ("Yes Men"). And it's fairly necessary to at least read a recap of Captain America: The Winter Soldier before watching episode 17 ("Turn, Turn, Turn"). On the whole you'll probably at least want a slight knowledge of what SHIELD is in the Marvel universe and who Agent Coulson is before starting the show. Both of those you can get from reading a recap of or watching if you haven't The Avengers (which is also Joss Whedon). That shouldn't be too much background material, compared to how much it could be. Probably 30 minutes worth of reading total, unless of course you've seen those films, in which case no reading.
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I am really annoyed with the speculation that Raina is Tigra. I mean, I have been from day 1 when I first saw postings and stories about it. But I just saw another one.
That's weird, I haven't seen one thing about Raina being Tigra. Not only does that not make sense, but Tigra wasn't an Inhuman.
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I am really annoyed with the speculation that Raina is Tigra. I mean, I have been from day 1 when I first saw postings and stories about it. But I just saw another one.
That's weird, I haven't seen one thing about Raina being Tigra. Not only does that not make sense, but Tigra wasn't an Inhuman.
It has been all over the Internet since the midseason finale. For example:
https://www.bustle.com/articles/55919-is-raina-tigra-on-agents-of-shield-she-could-be-more-important-to-the-mcu-than ("One of the prevailing schools of thought posits that Raina has transformed into Tigra. In the comics, Tigra is originally a lab assistant named Greer Grant Nelson, who is endowed with superhuman powers by Dr. Joanne Tumolo. After her transformation, Tigra was covered in fur, with claws, pointed teeth, and vertically-slit eyes. It’s true that Tigra wasn’t an Inhuman in the comics — but then again, neither was Quake. And what if those protrusions on her face aren’t spines, but the beginnings of whiskers? Apart from the distinctly feline look of Raina’s eye post-transformation, this theory seems quite possible when you consider her relationship to Skye/Daisy/Quake’s father...")
https://comicbook.com/2014/12/28/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-five-characters-raina-could-become/
And it seems like it comes up constantly in the comments on every single article that mentions the midseason finale.
And yeah, Tigra is not an Inhuman. BUT the MCU writers have been taking a lot of liberties along the way. Remember, Quake isn't an Inhuman in the comics either.
In any case, thank goodness last night's episode put it to rest. So what did you think?
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I enjoyed it immensely, and I'm curious to find out what is the nature of the secret between Bobbi and Mack.
Early speculation from me: they are working directly for Fury. But it's just a guess.
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That would be an interesting angle. I hadn't even thought of that option.
I thought it was a great episode. I loved the hug between Skye and Fitz. That was a great scene. I was under the impression that they were going to keep Skye's secret under wraps for awhile, but from the preview for next episode, it looks like it is going to be revealed next week (unless they just creatively edited the preview to create the false appearance of it coming out, which is a distinct possibility).
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https://screencrush.com/avengers-2-trailer-final/
3rd and final trailer for Ultron, lots of great new footage! can't wait for this movie :hefdaddy
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Early speculation from me: they are working directly for Fury. But it's just a guess.
I actually hope it's not this. It would be too similar to May's 'report to Fury in secret' thing from earlier, and would feel a bit repetitive.
I loved this episode, many awesome things happening. My favorite scene was probably Fitz confronting Skye with the first time, that was very tense emotionally.
https://screencrush.com/avengers-2-trailer-final/
3rd and final trailer for Ultron, lots of great new footage! can't wait for this movie :hefdaddy
Some of the most awesome stuff I've ever seen. I am so excited for this!
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Wow. LOTS of cool stuff in that trailer. :caffeine:
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The scepter is present in this movie AND the twins are with Ultron. That strongly suggests to me a Hydra/Von Strucker connection to Ultron, as in Hydra may have influenced or helped Ultron to become sentient.
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The Vision appears! (Hops up and down in place like a Budweiser frog!) :metal
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The Vision appears! (Hops up and down in place like a Budweiser frog!) :metal
Yeah, I'm really looking forward to seeing what they do with him.
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This weeks AoS was very uneven in how good it was. I thought Sif's stuff fell a bit flat, with quite a bit of awkward cheesyness in her dialogue. And I get that they were playing the 'fun with amnesia' card, but it didn't really pay off for me.
But as usual, Skye's stuff is great, and the whole revelation and the emotional bits were really good. And Mack and Bobbi's secret is interesting.
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Netflix Daredevil Trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAy6NJ_D5vU)
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Netflix Daredevil Trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAy6NJ_D5vU)
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I know almost nothing about daredevil but I think the show looks like its going to be great. I read the man without fear by frank miller after I saw the teaser.
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Great book, and I seem to have conspicuously misplaced my copy.
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Not sure if I will watch. But on another note: Agents of SHIELD last night was amazing.
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Not sure if I will watch. But on another note: Agents of SHIELD last night was amazing.
Haven't caught it yet. Something came up.
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I won't spoil anything then, but will just say this: (1) This is probably the best episode yet, IMO, for a BUNCH of different reasons; and (2) they advanced the ball a LOT farther in one single episode than I would have thought they would.
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Sweet! I'll catch it as soon as I can.
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So annoying that we're a few weeks behind in the UK. Season 2.5 hasn't started here yet. Grrrrrrr.
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I won't spoil anything then, but will just say this: (1) This is probably the best episode yet, IMO, for a BUNCH of different reasons; and (2) they advanced the ball a LOT farther in one single episode than I would have thought they would.
Really, you were that impressed with it? I agree that it furthered the plot more than I expected, but some things about the episode just felt off. I enjoyed the two previous episodes a lot more.
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Hef, when are you going to catch up? It's gettin' pretty intense.
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Hef, when are you going to catch up? It's gettin' pretty intense.
Last night. Where were you?
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:dunno: You didn't invite me. I had dip and everything.
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Sorry dude.
Anyway, the show is really getting good for the most part, although I didn't care for the group of criminals assembled by Sky's dad. They seemed really second-rate. I'm curious to see how much they do with the Inhumans.
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Anyway, the show is really getting good for the most part, although I didn't care for the group of criminals assembled by Sky's dad. They seemed really second-rate. I'm curious to see how much they do with the Inhumans.
Yeah, I wasn't sure if that was poor writing/decision-making, or if it was intentional to show that any potential "super villains" out there aren't really prepared yet to band together and form any kind of alliance that will form any kind of serious threat.
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*shrugs*
It makes sense that if any of the really heavy hitters break free, someone like Iron Man will address them, so these guys wouldn't have to. But those were a little silly.
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Yes, I agree that the villain team was a bit silly.
I was a bit sad that the Sky-shrink story turned out to only be for this episode. For some reason I felt like their talks would be interesting when they brought him in. I am very intrigued by the eyeless man and that whole thing. Looking forward to how that all plays out.
And was the 'real SHIELD' logo supposed to be some sort of revelation? The music and the shot made it seem like it, but in that case I didn't get it.
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I may very well have missed the point, but I think the "revelation" was simply that there are two SHIELDS operating, and that Bobbi and Mack are still basically working for the good guys even though they are not working for THE good guys.
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Interesting episode last night. We kind of got away from action and aliens in favor of espionage and character development. Not a groundbreaking episode, but good and important nonetheless.
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I may very well have missed the point, but I think the "revelation" was simply that there are two SHIELDS operating, and that Bobbi and Mack are still basically working for the good guys even though they are not working for THE good guys.
I don't think we can know for sure yet that they are good guys. They are definitely OTHER guys.
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True, but in terms of my response to the question being asked, that isn't really what I was getting at. But still, good point. I think Coulson's team should just hire Boomer to come in and shoot Adama in his chest.
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Good episode. Nothing too much to comment on really. Though, every conversation Fitz has had in the last few episodes have been the most interesting.
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Good episode. Nothing too much to comment on really. Though, every conversation Fitz has had in the last few episodes have been the most interesting.
I agree. I never liked him all that much when he was healthy, but now he's one of my favorite characters.
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Good episode. Nothing too much to comment on really. Though, every conversation Fitz has had in the last few episodes have been the most interesting.
I agree. I never liked him all that much when he was healthy, but now he's one of my favorite characters.
Same here. And Simmons has become one of my least favorites. Not that her character arc isn't interesting--I just have a strong distaste for the views she is developing.
But I have to say, for a comic book-inspired TV show using, let's face it, mostly B-list characters, I think the writing in terms of character development has been very good across the entire show.
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Agreed.
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I think it was way weaker during the first half of season 1, and I struggled to keep watching at times. But when I began to feel that the show's story lines actually had some relevance, then the entire show became 10 times more interesting. And Skye is a really well written character. I really do feel connected to her 'journey', so good job writers.
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I think it was way weaker during the first half of season 1, and I struggled to keep watching at times.
I think part of the problem was that nobody had a clear vision early on of what the show was supposed to be or how it fit in. I think they had some general story ideas, but there were a lot of holes.
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I think it was way weaker during the first half of season 1, and I struggled to keep watching at times.
I think part of the problem was that nobody had a clear vision early on of what the show was supposed to be or how it fit in. I think they had some general story ideas, but there were a lot of holes.
I don't know if that was actually the case, or if they just felt they had to make it more episodic and with less clear direction in order to set the context and exposition and so on. Very common for lots of shows to do that at the start.
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I think some of the masterminds at the top of the MCU may have had a bit more clear picture. But from everything I have read about those overseeing the actual show, they were kept in the dark for a long time about where things were going.
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Season 1 was just bad, and for me, the whole Winter Soldier sub-plot didn't even save it. I heard wonderful things about the second season, so i'll be waiting for it to hit the Netflix as soon as it streams.
Meanwhile, I'm ready for this Daredevil show. :metal
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REALLY good review of last night's episode on IGN:
Project Insight Revisited
→ March 31, 2015 Note: Full spoilers for the episode follow.
A very strong episode, “One Door Closes” surprisingly seemed to upend the dynamic of this show again, while also including some cool flashbacks that filled in the origins of The Other SHIELD.
Man, the producers sure took those “the pacing is too slow” criticisms from Season 1 to heart, no? I assumed we’d get at least a few more episodes of Bobbi and Mack plotting with Gonzalez before any kind of major confrontation occurred – but nope, everything went down here! Coulson figured out Mack was up to something, Bobbi got Fury’s toolbox and than Gonzalez and his SHIELD agents all showed up and took the entire place over!
Sure, it’s likely by the end of this Coulson could be working for/with Gonzalez and thus be back in charge of these headquarters, but it was still striking to see all this go down as efficiently as it did, complete with the image of Coulson being taken away in handcuffs. And Gonzalez flat out telling him he wished he could return Coulson’s compliment about wanting him on his team was harsh but effective.
We got to know the Inhuman Gordon here much more than before, as he paid a visit to Skye. Jamie Harris was very likable, as we (And Skye) got to know Gordon’s surprisingly laid back, unassuming manner.
Skye really aiming her powers for the first time, stopping that bullet and sending a shockwave back at Bobbi and Calderon, was a very cool moment too – as was the emotional one where she then called Gordon to take her away moments later.
It was pretty exciting to see May and Bobbi face off and their fight had some exciting moments… but then ended far too quickly. For now, May vs. Agent 33 remains the one to beat when it comes to fight scenes on this show.
As for the flashbacks, I was impressed by how well they worked. Including Isabelle was a great touch – and gave me the Battlestar reunion between Lucy Lawless and Edward James Olmos I only jokingly hoped for last week!
It was also impressive how much weight there was to Bobbi revealing she was going on a sacrifice mission and Mack and Gonzalez insisting on joining her, considering we knew they at least were going to make it out alive. Still, this was a well done look at another corner of SHIELD during the events of Captain America: The Winter Soldier – and the fact that Gonzalez was actually a guy who had been following Fury’s orders, only to reassess everything, an interesting addition to his character.
As for that tag, it was a fun beat to have Hunter re-join Coulson like that. With everyone else captured and Skye off Being Inhuman, it definitely leaves a, “What now?” vibe for these two, even as Hunter endearingly let Coulson know he was officially part of the team.
The Verdict
“One Door Closes” is airing around the same time of the year as the episode last year where The Winter Soldier opened and really upended this series – and helped improve it. In the midst of a much stronger season, it was notable to have things change again, even as flashbacks brought us right back to last year’s upheaval.
I couldn't really have said it much better.
I am continually surprised this second half of the season about where the show is going and how quickly it is going there. Every time I make an assumption about how I think things are going to go, the show puts a little twist in a different direction. For example, when Gordon took Skye away at the end of last night's episode, I immediately thought to myself that this was a clever way to really downplay the Inhumans going forward and really have the Inhuman subplot take a back seat. They could easily write future storylines in such a way as to take advantage of the fact that, from SHIELD's perspective, Skye has disappeared and is away with some secret society that does not want to be found and is adept at making sure it is not found. Given how far out the Inhumans movie is, this seemed logical. We now have a LOT of groundwork already laid for a more full-fledged appearance of the Inhumans in the Marvel universe later without having to expose too much in the interim. However, a few moments later when we got the preview for next week's episode, they pretty much laid out that Marvel has NO intention of burying the Inhumans for awhile and that they will still be a key story arc for the foreseeable future. Interesting.
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I also have to add: It is annoying to keep seeing articles out there that refer to Gordon as "Reader" and take it for granted that that MUST be the case. Other than the fact that neither character as eyes, they have nothing in common--a fact that becomes more and more apparent the more we learn about Gordon. Although it is true that the MCU has and will continue to take great liberties in interpreting characters and storylines, and does not hesitate to deviate from the comics when necessity dictates or they feel that it will fit their storyline better, I do not get the sense at all that Gordon is supposed to be Reader.
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I agree. And I loved last night's episode.
I have no idea where this is going, but hopefully this "2 SHIELDs" thing gets ended fairly quickly, and Edward James Olmos can get out of here. I'm not fond of his addition to the cast.
Also, I don't think that Inhumans won't be heard of again until their film. I think they will be all over the place in the MCU. Early word was that Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch would be Inhumans, so we'll see.
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Just finished the episode, great as usual. Skye is really powerful, even without a single moment of training.
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Also, I don't think that Inhumans won't be heard of again until their film. I think they will be all over the place in the MCU. Early word was that Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch would be Inhumans, so we'll see.
Yeah, that is almost certainly the case. I have just been having a hard time reconciling in my mind why they are developing the Inhumans storyline so early and so thoroughly when the movie is still SO far off.
Just finished the episode, great as usual. Skye is really powerful, even without a single moment of training.
Keep in mind that, although she has not been specifically trained in the use of her powers (after all, she hasn't been exposed to anyone since the transformation who is remotely qualified--until now), she has received a LOT of high-level training in other areas.
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Anyone looking forward to Daredevil dropping next week? I am intrigued.
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Not me. Such a minor, uninteresting character that I sometimes forget he isn't D.C.
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Not me. Such a minor, uninteresting character that I sometimes forget he isn't D.C.
If you think that DD is minor and uninteresting, I doubt that you will be very interested in any of the Netflix series by Marvel.
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I think you are correct. :biggrin:
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I will definetely check the DD series out. The trailers all look cool.
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Anyone notice uncanny similarities between the promo poster for next week's AoS and Civil War? "It's all connected..." :caffeine:
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Review - 'Daredevil' Is One Of Marvels Greatest Achievements (https://www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2015/04/03/review-daredevil-is-one-of-marvels-greatest-achievements/)
Wow
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Okay, very intriguing review. I was already looking forward to seeing this, and am even more so now. Although, the multiple comparisons to Arrow and Flash makes me pull back a bit, but since this is Netflix and not CW, I hope it won't be very similar.
Will this be a one episode a week show or will they do it House of Cards-style and drop the entire season at once?
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I don't think Netflix does the weekly episode thing at all. They'll release the whole thing at once.
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Yep, all at once.
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As I watched Daredevil unfold, it occurred to me that we’ll inevitably see an adaptation of Frank Miller’s iconic Born Again story arc
yes, please
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Joe & Anthony Russo to Direct 2-Part Marvel's 'Avengers: Infinity War' Event (https://marvel.com/news/movies/24399/joe_anthony_russo_to_direct_2-part_marvels_avengers_infinity_war_event)
This was rumored earlier, but Marvel confirmed today. Fantastic news IMO.
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Yeah, they did a great job with Winter Soldier, should be good.
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:lol Wow, that's right--this is on tonight. I need to get home!
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What did you think?
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Marvel delivered again. It was great, from start to finish. I loved Colson's completely unflappable "yeah, I got this"-ness. I loved the exposition on the inhumans (it revealed quite a bit without revealing too much). I loved the double meaning of "Afterlife" vis-à-vis the Jaiying reveal. Everything about it was terrific, IMO.
I love these comments I found in an article about the episode:
"which is a pretty good example of Coulson being a less than model citizen. " I mean he had no choice in the matter, he was being a model citizen by asking to buy the car. If anything, it's Hunter who's not the model citizen.
He's British. Historically speaking, going to foreign countries and stealing stuff is kind of our thing.
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(https://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i238/hefdaddy42/funny/callcoulson.jpg)
Yeah, I agree with you, I thoroughly enjoyed this episode. Looking forward to the rest of the season.
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Just found this from an interview with the actor who plays Deathlok (aka, really Black Panther pretending to be Deathlok):
Question: Of the new upgrades, does that mean Deathlok will have new abilities?
Richards: I have so many cool abilities. I have three USB ports, a firewire connection, you can get wi-fi off of me, this thing on my arm makes cappuccinos, and I have all of these cool little powers here and there.
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lol
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Yeah cool episode. Skye's stuff is as always very interesting. The rest too, but Skye in particular.
Though the head guy of the real shield's voice is starting to bother me a little.
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Yeah cool episode. Skye's stuff is as always very interesting. The rest too, but Skye in particular.
Though the head guy of the real shield's voice is starting to bother me a little.
Yeah, I kind of wish they would go ahead and get this particular storyline over with, just because of him.
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May Adama have mercy on your everlasting souls.
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May Adama have mercy on your everlasting souls.
I understand the reference, but it has no relevance. Never liked BSG, the original or the reboot.
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May Adama have mercy on your everlasting souls.
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May Adama have mercy on your everlasting souls.
So say we all.
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I first remember him from the movie, "Stand & Deliver".
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I first remember him from the movie, "Stand & Deliver".
Great movie. Had to watch it during my teaching credential program.
Relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXNj2BobjJ4
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Agents of SHIELD spinoff announced: https://www.ew.com/article/2015/04/09/shield-spinoff
Not sure what to think.
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Comic books is the new Grunge from Seattle, the new angry female singer. It's hot right now.
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Agents of SHIELD spinoff announced: https://www.ew.com/article/2015/04/09/shield-spinoff
Not sure what to think.
Even though I really like Agents of Shield at the moment, these news still frustrate me. At some point, it's just going to be too much.
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Too early to tell. Need more info.
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Too early to tell. Need more info.
Yeah, same here. At some point, yeah, it may become "too much." But thus far, Marvel has done a terrific job, and they have a great long-term plan, so I'm not too worried.
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Anyone catching Daredevil?
I won't be able to check it out this weekend - we have company - but I am hearing great things about it.
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Same here, so I'll probably catch an episode or two after work today. I noticed that they're all 52-58 minutes each rather than the typical 42 minutes for broadcast shows. :corn
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Same here, so I'll probably catch an episode or two after work today. I noticed that they're all 52-58 minutes each rather than the typical 42 minutes for broadcast shows. :corn
Yep, and I'm hearing they are basically TV-MA/R as far as violence. So this is a new realm for Marvel, and I'm excited about it.
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Will be checking it out as soon as possible. Unfortunately not tonight though..
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I am 2 episodes in and loving it so far.
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I'm also 2 episodes in and just started the 3rd one (holy shit that first scene) and I absolutely love this so far!
The "powers" are never really treated like powers, just a normal man who's a great fighter and can hear and smell better than you. The tone of the show is completely different from the rest of the MCU/AoS, much more dark, serious and gritty. Makes it feel like something isolated, which is much in line with how the DD comics feel with the rest of the Marvel universe.
That fight scene at the end of the second episode was absolutely great!
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Just finished episode 4. I knew this was going to be more violent than anything else in the MCU but damn I was not expecting that ending.
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only just started but rly diggin it so far
even tho im not big on marvel/superhero stuff in general
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Anyone catching Daredevil?
I won't be able to check it out this weekend - we have company - but I am hearing great things about it.
Jingle.son and I are gonna try and take in a couple of episodes this weekend.
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Wow, this show is definitely not family friendly for young kids.
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Wow, this show is definitely not family friendly for young kids.
He's almost 15, and a even more mature than that.
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Wow, this show is definitely not family friendly for young kids.
Sure it is............but then again when I was 8 my favorite movie was nightmare on elm street so maybe I'm a bad judge when it comes to these things. :biggrin:
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Wow, this show is definitely not family friendly for young kids.
He's almost 15, and a even more mature than that.
Oh no, I was not referring to you with that, just my general impression after 4 episodes. :lol
It's so tonally different from the rest of the MCU.
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Wow, this show is definitely not family friendly for young kids.
He's almost 15, and a even more mature than that.
Oh no, I was not referring to you with that, just my general impression after 4 episodes. :lol
It's so tonally different from the rest of the MCU.
Gotchya... though I didn't know it was going to be closer to the MA/R side of things. Still jingle.son's favorite Marvel character is Deadpool, so I think he'll be ok. Is it just the gore, or is there a lot of mature language as well? Not that he hasn't heard/seen it before, just curious.
Wow, this show is definitely not family friendly for young kids.
Sure it is............but then again when I was 8 my favorite movie was nightmare on elm street so maybe I'm a bad judge when it comes to these things. :biggrin:
I hear ya. The early releases of that franchise (along with Friday the 13th) were watched many-o-times. Plus, Eddie Murphy Delirious was my favorite comedy 'movie' when I was in Grade 7.
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There's some gore, but not over the top (except for the end of episode 4). Mostly is just broken bones and lots of "shits" and permutations on insults with "dick" in the dialogue.
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Wow, this show is definitely not family friendly for young kids.
This. Just watched the first two episodes last night. Bosk, not sure if you watch Agents of Shield with your boys, but this is definitely darker and more visceral than anything Marvel has done on film/TV.
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Watched the first episode last night, fucking loved it. Kinda bummed that I have a busy weekend, would love to waste a day watching the whole season.
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Finished binge watching it, it's an excellent show! D'Onofrio freaking killed it as Wilson Fisk!
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I'm 5 episodes in and I can only echo what you other guys have said; great show so far.
The final super-shot to episode 2 was amazing. I realize there are some places for 'cheats' here and there, but still so well done. Very impressive.
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D'Onofrio freaking killed it as Wilson Fisk!
That's what I keep hearing.
I expected no less.
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Just finished episode 12. I'm pissed. So pissed.
Gonna fire up the finale to see what they did with episode 12 is justified. If not, they just severely underused a character.
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Fuck. Ok.
It's a really good show, but they shot themselves in the foot around episode 10, which when several of you fine folks have caught up, I would love to discuss with. I felt a tad underwhelmed and slightly disappointed with these last few episodes, even though the last 25 minutes of the finale was fuckin' awesome. It was like riding on a roller coaster and climbing to the top of the drop, but then you get stuck. That being said, I love the direction and the tone. This is what Arrow could have been if it wasn't produced by the CW. Vincent D'Onofrio KILLED it as Kingpin! May be an Emmy winning performance.
I'm looking forward to visiting Hell's Kitchen again in the future. This show has also convinced me that Marvel doesn't need to make a Punisher movie. They need 13 episodes of gritty storytelling on Netflix.
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I need to watch this show.
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This show has also convinced me that Marvel doesn't need to make a Punisher movie. They need 13 episodes of gritty storytelling on Netflix.
That's exactly what my brother told me. He said that the Punisher needs to be told in this format.
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Ant-Man trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWdKf3MneyI&feature=youtu.be
I'm still kinda eh about it.
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I have a feeling Ant-Man is gonna be a surprise hit, similar to how Guardians was. Nobody is really expecting anything, and I honestly wouldn't be surprised if I enjoyed it more than some of the other Marvel movies. Paul Rudd is awesome.
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I thought that trailer was easily the best thing I've seen yet on Ant-Man. I'm really looking forward to it.
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Wow, that new trailer is pretty cool. I saw McFarland, USA this last Friday (which was VERY good, by the way), and they showed the original trailer. This one definitely has me more excited for this movie.
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Maybe this discussion is better had later in the year after Ultron and Ant Man, but I am just kinda curious to know how people feel about some of the deviations from the comics. I know there was a bit of discussion awhile back about the Mandarin, but I think that was more focused on whether or not people liked or disliked the Kingsely twist rather than differences in the character between the comics vs. the movie. Then we also have things like the origin or Ultron, the twins not being mutants, the ant man character, etc. What do people think?
I will say that for me, as a general principle, I have no problem with the deviations in character/story as long as they make sense. And I feel that pretty much all of the choices made in the MCU have made sense within the story arcs that they are constructing. It is mindblowing to me that they can already have such a huge franchise just in terms of the number of films and tv shows without having any blatant inconsistencies. Lucus could not even achieve that feat in his first three Star Wars films. The story thus far all makes sense. So, Ultron was created by Stark and Banner, not Pym? Okay. In the context of the MCU storyline, that makes perfect sense, so no heartache from me. The twins are not Magneto's mutant kids, but had their powers either given or unlocked by the power of Loki's staff (and possibly some other outside forces) by a branch of Hydra that has been experimenting for years with how to create or unlock special enhancements? Yeah, that fits too.
That being said, I have to say that when I collected and read comics a long time ago, I was not heavily into most of the characters we are dealing with now. I mostly read the X-Men and various affiliated titles, Spider Man, and some other unrelated ones (like Cloak and Dagger, for example). Yeah, I read Avengers, Captain America, and some others every now and then (and sometimes for extended periods of time). But not enough to really invest in the characters as many others did. So I can understand not being as affected by the changes the way others might be. So what do you all think?
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I avidly read ALL of Marvel's characters, for a long time.
I have absolutely zero problem with any of the deviations. Mainly because of the respect they show for the characters in the first place.
They are clearly not embarassed by ANYTHING from the comics, which has ultimately been the downfall of most other superhero films: the film creators, for whatever reason, just couldn't take the characters seriously.
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Oh hell yeah... two new Ultron clips:
Hulkbuster battle - https://www.ibtimes.com/avengers-age-ultron-cast-debuts-hulkbuster-fight-clip-2015-mtv-movie-awards-watch-1878887
Avengers banter - https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/mtv-movie-awards-2015-new-788142
Get 'em before they get taken down.
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And another... Banner "un" hulking - https://youtu.be/fPJ90rSpFvE
Now I'm starting to feel there's too many spoilers. Still three weeks to go, and there's almost 15 minutes of footage officially out.
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three weeks to go
where has the time gone :omg:
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Watched the first Daredevil episode yesterday. Looks promising! Very dark.
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Watched the first Daredevil episode yesterday. Looks promising! Very dark.
No shit. Just got through Ep 4. For those that are that far in, does it continue to get progressively more violent? Even I was a little queesy with how that episode ended. :|
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I haven't watched any of it yet, but I read that the ending to ep. 4 is the most disturbing thing, as such things go.
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I haven't watched any of it yet, but I read that the ending to ep. 4 is the most disturbing thing, as such things go.
I sure as hell hope so. Can't imagine it getting any more disturbing. Every episode has had a scene with progressively more violence and gore. Hopefully this is where it 'peaks'.
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Watched the first Daredevil episode yesterday. Looks promising! Very dark.
Yeah, it's great. I just finished Episode 5 last night. I've been watching the show with my friends and we're all loving it so far.
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Watched the first Daredevil episode yesterday. Looks promising! Very dark.
No shit. Just got through Ep 4. For those that are that far in, does it continue to get progressively more violent? Even I was a little queesy with how that episode ended. :|
No. That's the goriest thing that happens in the season.
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Hey, Agents of SHIELD last night. Woo-hoo!
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And it was good.
May's backstory, for some reason, didn't feel as satisfying as I thought it would. I mean, it was done well, and everything dovetailed nicely into what we know about her character now. But somehow, I dunno, it just didn't work for me as well as I thought it should have.
The stuff in Afterlife was cool. I like that while Skye is learning control with some guidance and direction from her mom, she isn't mastering it overnight. And I was genuinely touched by the scene when Skye's mom revealed herself.
So Raina is clairvoyant. Interesting... That makes her a pretty significant player, if you ask me. I gotta think they have bigger aspirations for her and will use her in later films. Interesting to see her sort of warm up to Gordon when it was clear he is developing feelings for her. Personally, I am pretty confident that she is playing him and will use that to eventually break out.
The stuff between SHIELD vs. Pointy-SHIELD is a bit annoying. May's whole "OMG, Coulson is keeping secrets!" is silly. Um, hello! He is the director of a secret spy organization. OF COURSE he is going to have a lot of big secrets that NOBODY else knows! That's how it works. For someone like May to not understand that makes her look naïve and makes her character less believable.
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They may be like that because the "New Shield" wants to run with transparency with the split and the government not really trusting them.
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I know. It makes sense in that context, but I just feel like they are pushing it too far and making the characters unbelievable.
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Yes.
But Fitz hacking the toolbox to hook up with Coulson & Hunter was awesome.
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Although I really liked the episode, I feel a bit insulted by the exposition. Once I saw that Kal was holding flowers I understood Raina's power, and I though 'please don't beat us over the head with this, let this be a cool hint', but then not only did we get the voice-over from what she said before, but Lincoln saying out loud 'it wasn't a dream'. That irritated me, and I wish they would have let the visuals speak for themselves and trust us to be 'smart' enough to figure it out.
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Dumb name for next week's episode though. But then again, I have always hated the saying, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." No. Maybe the enemy of your enemy is really just a dick who is good at making enemies.
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Good episode.
But TV shows thinking their audience is smart? LOL that'll be the day!
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To be fair, a lot of their audience isn't.
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They don't have to think that we're a bunch of geniuses, but it was just too much in this week's episode. One has to draw the line somewhere.
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So I just got done with EP 8 of Daredevil....
Spoilers-
That was without a doubt the darkest Marvel has ever gone, and quite possibly the best single moment of their production career. Fan-fucking-tastic episode of TV. Kingpin is shaping up to be a truly dynamic villain. Loving this one man.
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I could see why this is on Netflix though. No ´public´ broadcasting station´s touching this I guess.
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How long should we wait before discussing Daredevil openly without needing the spoiler warnings?
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How long should we wait before discussing Daredevil openly without needing the spoiler warnings?
I'm not sure.
It's been out a week, right? But 13 episodes is a lot to consume in that period.
That's my biggest problem. With a wife, two kids, and a job, and all of the regular stuff we have to deal with, there is just too darn much content out there to consume. It's hard to find time for it all, for me.
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Batman v Superman trailer leaked.
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I finished with episode five of Daredevil last night. I won't discuss plot or provide any spoilers but :omg:
This is the best thing Marvel has produced, IMO...and that's saying a lot, because their track record over the last several years has been flawless.
I'm really looking forward to more episodes tonight and over the weekend.
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I'm only 3 episodes into Daredevil so far, but it's already really damn good!
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I just got caught up on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and I'm planning to start in on Daredevil this weekend. I'm a little concerned by what some are saying about violence level, because I like that Marvel has so far stayed away from going the "Dark Knight" route with everything, but if it'll work for anyone it'll work for Daredevil. If it has a similar tone to the old DD movie, I'll like it.
AOS spoilers: I think Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is developing brilliantly, though I do find myself wishing that they would move the "real S.H.I.E.L.D." storyline along faster than they are—we're getting a lot of new stuff happening with Skye, which is great, but it's at the cost of very little happening with the whole "real S.H.I.E.L.D." thing. Hopefully that will change this week, especially since it seems we're getting a Ward episode—he always tends to move things along. I'm pretty excited to see what role he has to play going forward, because he was such an uninteresting character who became probably the most interesting one on the show in an instant last year.
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Just watched ep 4 of Daredevil...whoof.... :omg: Casting in this is outstanding.
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Agreed. Kingpin just keeps getting better and better, some of the best character development I've ever seen in TV.
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Yeah, seriously. When I first saw a picture of the guy playing Fisk, I thought 'this guy looks too nice, not intimidating enough', but that turned out to be absolutely perfect for how they chose to play out the character. And he sure could be intimidating when he needed to.
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Yeah, seriously. When I first saw a picture of the guy playing Fisk, I thought 'this guy looks too nice, not intimidating enough', but that turned out to be absolutely perfect for how they chose to play out the character. And he sure could be intimidating when he needed to.
You've had to seen Vincent D'Onofrio in TV and Movie rolls before BlackInk? The man is an incredible actor.
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Good lord, the end of Daredevil episode 4. :O
I was expecting something intense based on the comments here, but that was absolutely brutal.
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Yeah, seriously. When I first saw a picture of the guy playing Fisk, I thought 'this guy looks too nice, not intimidating enough', but that turned out to be absolutely perfect for how they chose to play out the character. And he sure could be intimidating when he needed to.
You've had to seen Vincent D'Onofrio in TV and Movie rolls before BlackInk? The man is an incredible actor.
Not that I recall. The name isn't familiar.
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Check his movies and TV shows out. You will not be disappointed.
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I know. And (SPOILERS) after the developments of Ep 8, it all just fits so well, and he plays it so well. Each scene after that you can just see that suppressed rage from him childhood right below the surface. Brilliant.
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Check his movies and TV shows out. You will not be disappointed.
FULL METAL JACKET
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Check his movies and TV shows out. You will not be disappointed.
FULL METAL JACKET
HOLY SHIT IT'S THAT GUY
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Yup. :lol
Also the cockroach alien in MIB, Edgar.
Feeling Minnesota.
The Whole Wide World
Thumbsucker
And of coarse his role as Det. Robert Goren in Law & Order: Criminal Intent. Very intense and cerebral.
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Mrs. P and I just completed watching the season finale of Daredevil. Holy balls, what a great run of episodes that was and the final scene with Fisk...*shivers*.
Can't wait 'til next season! :biggrin:
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Actually, a "next season" hasn't been announced yet.
But I would be shocked if it doesn't happen. Especially given the huge critical response to the show.
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I've been wondering what they'll do with these shows. As I understand it, we've got Daredevil and AKA Jessica Jones, followed by Iron Fist and Luke Cage (possibly the other way round, can't remember), and then later on a Defenders series. Does that mean each of those only gets one season? Or if a show is good/popular/successful, does it get to carry on doing its own thing for a bit?
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I've been wondering what they'll do with these shows. As I understand it, we've got Daredevil and AKA Jessica Jones, followed by Iron Fist and Luke Cage (possibly the other way round, can't remember), and then later on a Defenders series. Does that mean each of those only gets one season? Or if a show is good/popular/successful, does it get to carry on doing its own thing for a bit?
I would imagine they will get to carry on, if warranted.
But early rumor is that at least some of the Defenders will show up in Avengers: Infinity War Pt. 2.
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I'm beginning to feel like this will all become a bit much.
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I'm beginning to feel like this will all become a bit much.
Why? As long as the quality remains high, that is.
The different stories are in a shared universe, but they aren't necessarily dependent on one another. I don't think you have to be a GOTG or Avengers fan to like Daredevil, for example.
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I'm beginning to feel like this will all become a bit much.
Why? As long as the quality remains high, that is.
Yes, and as it stands right now, I like it all. Not saying certainly that I will, but I'm afraid that at some point I will just be fed up with the abundance of Marvel everywhere, even if the quality is high. I like the MCU, I am a true nerd in that regard, so I don't want that to happen.
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Can we ever expect a crossover with the TV shows and movies? Maybe Matt Murdock can cameo at some point? Have they ruled that out already?
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Even something as small as a casual mention of the events of Daredevil from Tony Stark would be cool. Someone referencing a news article or something. I wouldn't need to be bigger than that.
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Or maybe in Civil War during a court scene, Murdock could be there. Was Daredevil a part of that story line? He'd probably be against the act.
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Can we ever expect a crossover with the TV shows and movies? Maybe Matt Murdock can cameo at some point? Have they ruled that out already?
On the contrary, they have gone to great pains to make sure that all possibilities are on the table. Numerous Avengers actors have stated their willingness to make appearances on Agents of SHIELD, and there are already rumors of Daredevil and other Netflix characters appearing in future films. Not to mention that the last film on the current schedule, The Inhumans, is currently having its seeds planted on Agents of SHIELD now.
Also, the "official" hashtag of the MCU is #ItsAllConnected.
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Daredevil is one of those neat smaller characters that doesn't really need own stand alone movies IMO, and the TV show format is better. So it would be awesome if they used Daredevil in the movies, as a smaller part. He could appear as the "side-kick" and help the main hero.
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Saw DD episode 1. Wow, just wow. Now I know what I'm watching for the next two weeks.
Anyone know how/where to watch Agents of Shield? It's not on Netflix.
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Saw DD episode 1. Wow, just wow. Now I know what I'm watching for the next two weeks.
Anyone know how/where to watch Agents of Shield? It's not on Netflix.
Season 1 is.
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Season 1 is, and you can buy the season 2 episodes for a few bucks each on Amazon Prime if you're willing to pay for that in order to be caught up. I started watching early in the run of season 2, and I got to season 2 shortly after the break started. You can stream the most recent five or so episodes for free on ABC, so I did that once I got to that point, and for the episodes before then I bought them on Amazon.
This all is in the US, by the way. I don't know how it is elsewhere.
Just FYI, you have to give season 1 a chance to grow. It starts out looking like it could just end up being a mediocre serial, but it picks up in pacing and quality around episode 10 and starts accelerating rapidly thereafter.
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By contrast, I started watching the first minutes of 'The Flash'. Wow. Instant turnoff.
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The Flash is a whole different animal and is meant to provide entertainment in a light, fun way, or so it seems to me. It has it's problems; some of the character's motivations are suspect, the acting can be uneven but I find it to be a nice change from the heaviness of Daredevil, or even The Arrow.
Maybe this comment belongs in the DC thread?
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I think you're both nuts. It fits that comic's tone to a tee and it's a real good show.
I've read it here before but DC has done a great job with the TV shows while the movies depends.
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The Flash is fantastic.
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I stopped watching Arrow a few episodes into the second season, I just didn't care enough at all to continue for a single more episode. From what I have seen from Flash, it would impress me even less. Consider me a firm and absolute supporter of team Marvel when it comes to TV shows.
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I'd also recommend watching The Cell to get an idea of villainous D'Onofrio
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Wow. Tonight's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. was huge. I really have no idea how things are going to work out going forward.
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:caffeine:
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I've been wondering what they'll do with these shows. As I understand it, we've got Daredevil and AKA Jessica Jones, followed by Iron Fist and Luke Cage (possibly the other way round, can't remember), and then later on a Defenders series. Does that mean each of those only gets one season? Or if a show is good/popular/successful, does it get to carry on doing its own thing for a bit?
I would imagine they will get to carry on, if warranted.
https://marvel.com/news/tv/24478/netflix_orders_a_second_season_of_marvels_daredevil
Apparently it was warranted!
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Apparently so!
Also, last night's Agents of SHIELD was great, and is leading into Avengers: Age of Ultron!
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Apparently so!
Also, last night's Agents of SHIELD was great, and is leading into Avengers: Age of Ultron!
***AoS -> AoU tie-in SPOILER ALERT***
Can't remember if it was confirmed or not, but I read somewhere that the last episode of AoS is going to end with the start of the fight that begins AoU.
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Another really cool episode. But even though there was much action, it felt like build-up. I almost didn't believe it when it ended.
Interesting stuff with Skye and her father. I really feel for the guy, despite what he's capable of.
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Apparently so!
Also, last night's Agents of SHIELD was great, and is leading into Avengers: Age of Ultron!
***AoS -> AoU tie-in SPOILER ALERT***
Can't remember if it was confirmed or not, but I read somewhere that the last episode of AoS is going to end with the start of the fight that begins AoU.
That seems a little odd, since the last episode of AoS won't be until 2 weeks after the premiere of AoU.
Or do you mean next week's episode, which will be the last one before the premiere of AoU?
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From USAToday earlier this week:
The episodes "The Frenemy of My Enemy" (last night's episode) and "The Dirty Half Dozen" (next week) feature "Easter eggs, plot threads and other connective tissue leading into the opening scene of Avengers: Age of Ultron" while "Scars" (May 5) explores the aftermath of the film.
That leaves one last episode, "S.O.S.", which according to Wikipedia has been split into Part One and Part Two.
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Honestly, at this point I'm probably more excited for rest of the AoS season than I am for Age of Ultron. I'm sure that will change somewhat as the next episode will probably hype the movie pretty hard, but right now I'm really invested in the plots that are going on in the show right now, while the Avengers seem more distant to me.
Interesting stuff with Skye and her father. I really feel for the guy, despite what he's capable of.
I do too. And she definitely feels for him as well. He's one of the most interesting characters on the show at this point.
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Apparently so!
Also, last night's Agents of SHIELD was great, and is leading into Avengers: Age of Ultron!
***AoS -> AoU tie-in SPOILER ALERT***
Can't remember if it was confirmed or not, but I read somewhere that the last episode of AoS is going to end with the start of the fight that begins AoU.
That seems a little odd, since the last episode of AoS won't be until 2 weeks after the premiere of AoU.
Or do you mean next week's episode, which will be the last one before the premiere of AoU?
Yes, I mean last episode before the premiere, not last episode of the season. Sorry. That was unclear the way I originally typed it. But I see you found the information on your own anyway, so great.
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I'm really looking forward to the rest of this season and AoU. My brother is coming up that weekend so we can all go see it together. :metal
And maybe then I will find time to watch Daredevil.
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I will be in D.C. when it premiers. There is a slight possibility I may see it when I am out there. But I will probably just wait until the following weekend (or the weekend after that, actually) because I will definitely have to take the boys to go see it anyway.
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I will be in D.C. when it premiers. There is a slight possibility I may see it when I am out there. But I will probably just wait until the following weekend (or the weekend after that, actually) because I will definitely have to take the boys to go see it anyway.
My girls and I saw Guardians of the Galaxy 3 times together at the theater.
I wouldn't be surprised if there are repeat viewings of this in our future, as well.
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I usually do one theater viewing and then just save the cash, knowing there will be the eventual BluRay purchase. Usually. :D
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Guardians of the galaxy is the only movie I've seen in the theaters more than once.
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The wife and I saw Guardians at the drive in and a thunderstorm was heading out way so the thunderbolts were in the background or the battle scene towards the end which added to the viewing!
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I will be in D.C. when it premiers. There is a slight possibility I may see it when I am out there. But I will probably just wait until the following weekend (or the weekend after that, actually) because I will definitely have to take the boys to go see it anyway.
My girls and I saw Guardians of the Galaxy 3 times together at the theater.
I wouldn't be surprised if there are repeat viewings of this in our future, as well.
jingle.daughter doesn't like the IMAX glasses over top of her own glasses, so we're (me and both kids) going to see AoU in regular (non-3D) viewing on the 2nd. I'm then traveling for work, and then the following weekend, jingle.son and I are gonna see it in full IMAX.
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Seems Age of Ultron, in a strange twist of fate, is actually coming out earlier in the UK for once - this weekend in fact.
Only thing is, we're a few weeks behind on Agents of SHIELD. Might have to find ways to get myself caught up on it before I go and see the film.
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Age of Ultron premieres in Norway today! :metal
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https://justsitback.deviantart.com/?rssQuery=gallery%3AtheDURRRRIAN%2F27625711&s=8%2C3%2C0
Some cool re-imaginings of the Avengers characters, in a more fantasy style.
Also, I finally caught episode 1 of Daredevil. Holy crap!
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The premiere for AoU was Tuesday midnight here, but I won't see it until Saturday because my sister has been fairly busy, and we always catch them together. Getting really hyped though. :)
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Seems Age of Ultron, in a strange twist of fate, is actually coming out earlier in the UK for once - this weekend in fact.
Only thing is, we're a few weeks behind on Agents of SHIELD. Might have to find ways to get myself caught up on it before I go and see the film.
I thought one of the reasons we fought a revolution in the first place was so that we would not have to watch Age of Ultron after you guys. >:(
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALBwaO-rAsE This RDJ interview is so awkward. I totally understand him for standing up and leaving mid-interview, the interviewer just kept asking really awkward questions. RDJ looks like he had a panic attack or something.
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He kept his cool though. Good for him. Obviously he doesn't like talking about his past.
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He kept his cool though. Good for him. Obviously he doesn't like talking about his past.
Well, he may not mind talking about his past if he knows that's what the interview is about.
This was on a press junket to promote Avengers. The interviews are supposed to be about or relating to the film; that's the reason for the interviews.
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I remember this guy from an interview he did with Quentin Tarantino, and he was an asshole then too.
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Maybe this guy is just an asshat, and shouldn't be allowed on any more junkets.
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I can kinda see both sides. On one hand, he was rude and invasive. And he went outside the scope of what he was supposed to be interviewing about.
On the other hand, why should stars, directors, etc. only have to answer softball questions by interviewers that only fawn over them and act like the yes-men that typically surround many Hollywood types? Why not ask the interesting, difficult questions and push a bit to try to get some interesting answers?
I am not saying either side is completely in the right, but I can at least understand it. Now if Downey was completely blindsided and went into the interview on false pretenses, that would bother me more. But the flipside of this is that this guy has a reputation already for doing this sort of thing, so Downey should have been prepared for the contingency that questions would likely go off-topic and, quite possibly, out of bounds. That doesn't mean he should have to agree to answer those questions if he does not want to. But it also means he probably wasn't (or at least shouldn't have been) completely blindsided either.
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I think it was the context. If you go into the interview knowing that it will be a bit more personal and focus on you as a personal, you can prepare a bit and choose whether or not you feel alright answering those questions. But if you go into a normal press junket about your most recent movie, and the interviewer starts poking at personal things that happened over 10 years ago, then you're not left much choice, and you get cornered.
RDJ seems like a cool enough person that I think he would answer those kind of questions if he was prepared for them.
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This guy also seems like a bit of a asshole. He did something similar with Tarantino and Richard Ayoade (to a lesser extent).
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Seemed like RDJ was looking offscreen at his 'handlers' as to how he should handle it. I'm willing to bet he got the 'ok' to walk. Bosk, you're right that interviewers should be able to ask these questions, but RDJ even pointed out that this guy was clearly nervous about something, and beating around the bush. If an interviewer wants to ask those questions, just go ahead an ask them. The fact he was nervous and not just asking what he wanted to ask could possibly be implying he's A) going somewhere he knows he's not supposed to be, and/or B) there's potentially even more 'out-of-bounds' questions on the way.
At least RDJ didn't go all Mike Tyson on the guy - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiJ-hLWoPQk&feature=youtu.be&t=63
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Seats booked for Age of Ultron saturday night! My friend whom I usually talk to about these things saw it last night. She described it as "SJDKQKHRQIEBKSSKHWAOGAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH", then "iiihhhhhh jsgeksvdsk", then "ahhhh", and finally "It was okay.".
I didn't watch the interview, I cannot stand watching awkwardness.
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I can kinda see both sides. On one hand, he was rude and invasive. And he went outside the scope of what he was supposed to be interviewing about.
On the other hand, why should stars, directors, etc. only have to answer softball questions by interviewers that only fawn over them and act like the yes-men that typically surround many Hollywood types? Why not ask the interesting, difficult questions and push a bit to try to get some interesting answers?
The purpose of the press junket in the first place is to promote this specific film, and Marvel in general. There can be plenty of interesting, difficult questions pertaining to the purpose of the junket. No reason they all have to be "softball" questions.
I am not saying either side is completely in the right, but I can at least understand it. Now if Downey was completely blindsided and went into the interview on false pretenses, that would bother me more. But the flipside of this is that this guy has a reputation already for doing this sort of thing, so Downey should have been prepared for the contingency that questions would likely go off-topic and, quite possibly, out of bounds. That doesn't mean he should have to agree to answer those questions if he does not want to. But it also means he probably wasn't (or at least shouldn't have been) completely blindsided either.
Well, the publicist shouldn't have been blindsided. No reason to assume that Downey should know this guy from Adam. That's why they have publicists.
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Seems Age of Ultron, in a strange twist of fate, is actually coming out earlier in the UK for once - this weekend in fact.
Only thing is, we're a few weeks behind on Agents of SHIELD. Might have to find ways to get myself caught up on it before I go and see the film.
I thought one of the reasons we fought a revolution in the first place was so that we would not have to watch Age of Ultron after you guys. >:(
Looks like we're the real winners after all! :biggrin:
Maybe this guy is just an asshat, and shouldn't be allowed on any more junkets.
It's Channel 4. It's not always terrible, but it's definitely the sort of TV Channel that likes to stir the pot and create drama out of anything.
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Just finished Daredevil!
:omg: :metal :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
One of the coolest tv-shows I've seen in a while!
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As Age of Ultron starts coming out across the globe, would it be worthwhile to have it's own Spoiler thread? That way the rest of the Marvel discussion can continue on here without worrying which posts have AoU spoilers?
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I have seen this movie on its first day of showing. :D Very good, but has a feel of a bridge movie, like it is the middle part of a trilogy. In a perfect world, this would have taken more elements from Ultron Unlimited by Kurt Busiek and Gerge Perez, the best Ultron story ever written. But I guess they did not go down that route because the movie would have gotten an R-18 rating due to the extreme violence and evil depicted in that story.
Still, kudos to Marvel for making a double-page spread from Ultron Unlimited come to life in the movie. Almost stood up to applaud when I saw it on the big screen!
I would just like to add that Joss Whedon's ability to write a story with multiple characters still amaze me. Lesser writers (ehem, X-Men film writers take note!) would have been overwhelmed.
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At least RDJ didn't go all Mike Tyson on the guy - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiJ-hLWoPQk&feature=youtu.be&t=63
:lol
Gotta love Mike, gets the last "fuck you" in before commercial.
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As Age of Ultron starts coming out across the globe, would it be worthwhile to have it's own Spoiler thread? That way the rest of the Marvel discussion can continue on here without worrying which posts have AoU spoilers?
Might be a good idea.
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As Age of Ultron starts coming out across the globe, would it be worthwhile to have it's own Spoiler thread? That way the rest of the Marvel discussion can continue on here without worrying which posts have AoU spoilers?
Might be a good idea.
Sure. We can always merge it later if necessary. (or not)
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Oh I see, so because it doesn't come out in America first (for once!), it deserves its own spoiler thread? :P
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Oh I see, so because it doesn't come out in America first (for once!), it deserves its own spoiler thread? :P
Shut up and go watch it already! :P :P :P :P
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The anticipated sequel premieres May 1 here in the good old USA, but it has already premiered in some countries, and will premier in others before May 1. If you live outside the USA and have seen it and want to discuss here, please do so IN THIS THREAD until May 1.
Thanks!
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Cool. Seeing it tomorrow, will probably be posting my thoughts later tomorrow night. Should be great!
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I have seen this movie on its first day of showing. :D Very good, but has a feel of a bridge movie, like it is the middle part of a trilogy. In a perfect world, this would have taken more elements from Ultron Unlimited by Kurt Busiek and Gerge Perez, the best Ultron story ever written. But I guess they did not go down that route because the movie would have gotten an R-18 rating due to the extreme violence and evil depicted in that story.
Still, kudos to Marvel for making a double-page spread from Ultron Unlimited come to life in the movie. Almost stood up to applaud when I saw it on the big screen!
I would just like to add that Joss Whedon's ability to write a story with multiple characters still amaze me. Lesser writers (ehem, X-Men film writers take note!) would have been overwhelmed.
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Just saw it today!
Liked it from beginning to end! Hawkeye has the best scenes, and humour and the dark moments are very well balanced!
Overall, really good!
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Just came back from it. Awesome stuff! Much better than the first Avengers movie.
Scarlet Witch was really cool and super creepy in the opening scene, and while she was cool for the rest of the movie too, I feel that she never quite reached the level of cool she did in that first scene. Also, Ultron was cool as a villain. Funnier than I expected, but it really worked.
And in most things, I love hints at bigger picture stuff. Most interesting scenes in the Hobbit movies are the ones involving Sauron. Some of the coolest moments for me in Game of Thrones are ones dealing with the White Walkers. I loved to hear them talk and show things about the infinity stones and the hints at Infinity War. So all that was great, especially the mid credits scene!
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I just came home from seeing it. Need some time to digest it, but my initial reaction is that I liked it more than the first. One of my problems with the first movie was that the villain department felt lacking (Loki is great, but he was basically just a pawn), and Ultron is a much more memorable "big bad" villain, who actually feels like a big threat. The new characters were great. Was expecting an Ant-Man mid-credits scene, but not disappointed with what we got.
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Need some time to digest it, but my initial reaction is that I liked it more than the first. One of my problems with the first movie was that the villain department felt lacking (Loki is great, but he was basically just a pawn), and Ultron is a much more memorable "big bad" villain, who actually feels like a big threat.
Would definitely agree with this. "AI programmed to protect the world that then decides destroying humanity is the best way to do that" is far from the most original villain concept, but the voice acting and the design made him immediately rocket to being about the most charismatic and memorable villain in the entire MCU. Loki is great, but not really suitable as a "big bad" for the entire Avengers, but the first film gets away with it because it's the first film with them all meeting, and basically the first major film with multiple superheroes at all.
Will need to see it again, but my first impression was that it succeeded in meeting my expectations of building on the first Avengers film and even exceeding the first (mainly due to a quicker start, not having to take forever to introduce all the Avengers to the team and because of a better and more memorable villain), which would put it in the region of Iron Man and The Winter Soldier as one of the best Marvel films.
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This movie also managed to be darker and funnier at the same time. Some moments were really funny, but funniest must have been Thor after he gets zapped by Scarlet Witch, "fortunately... I am mighty...".
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That part was great. A lot of funny moments, my favorite was probably when Hulk jumped into the ship Ultron was flying and threw him out, and you could hear Ultron say "Oh for god's sake". :lol
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Only a few more days until Avengers time!
Tomorrow's AOS will lead into it in some way. W00t!
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Also, 3 episodes into Daredevil.
Wow. This is definitely a whole other side of Marvel. Intense. The fight scenes are incredibly brutal.
That long tracking shot at the end of episode 2 was fantastic.
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Pretty much everything about Daredevil is just brilliant. Only very minor complaint is how frequent and lengthy the fist fights are, but they're good in and of themselves.
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I didn't mind that because they were so well choreographed and served to show that Daredevil isn't someone who will overpower anyone, he also got knocked around a bit. He wins because he outlasts you.
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I get that sense as well, Dimitrius. They did a good job of showing that with the fight scene at the end of episode 2, which was rather unlike anything I've seen.
I'm only two episodes in myself. Might watch the third this afternoon. This has been really good, though stuff this dark and violent isn't my usual fare (I do get why it's the only way to do this character justice, though). I'm planning to stick with it, because the quality is really high, but I'm hoping it remains more of an anomaly among Marvel releases going forward.
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No shit, 425. To my mind, Daredevil is the best thing I've seen in a long time, but, I was actually somewhat relieved when I was finished with it. It's not really what I go to Marvel for...way more intense than I'm used to from their properties. And, I'm not talking solely about the violence--the characters and their portrayal is very heavy. And exhausting. In a good way.
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After Agents of SHIELD I didn't have any hopes, but 3 episodes in and this is awesome. Leagues better than AoS and overall a really great superhero show. I'm looking forward to Jessica Jones, and the other upcoming shows, and how they will tie together in The Defenders.
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Jimmy, did you actually continue with AOS or did you give up early on?
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Just a few more days until Age of Ultron. I'm hearing nothing but good things about it.
:caffeine:
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Jimmy, did you actually continue with AOS or did you give up early on?
I watched season 1, but haven't watched season 2.
I think in general the show just wasn't my thing, quality aside. What gets me excited about Marvel is the super heroes. A show about SHIELD just felt flat to begin with for me, and after having seen it, basically a CSI/Criminal Minds styled show with a supernatural twist and the setting of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, I just didn't enjoy it that much, despite some cool cameos.
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There are DEFINITELY superheroes in season 2. They play a MAJOR part. But the focus of the show is still the cloak and dagger, spy vs. spy stuff, with a bit of X-files thrown in for good measure.
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Just finished watching Daredevil season finale. Very Well Done! Glad they decided on doing a second season.
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Hype is now at maximum imaginable levels. Because... wow. Tonight's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Wow.
So... Loki's scepter is suddenly back in play? Interesting. Also, I'm actually kind of starting to not hate Ward anymore. He's had absolutely stunning character development. And he's right about Simmons, too.
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One thing I'm wondering, with the success of The Flash, do you think we may see a live action Spider-Man series soon?
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Saw it yesterday, really like it. Ultron was a really cool villain, and I was pleasantly surprised that all the members got their moment to shine - none of them felt shoehorned in. One thing that felt a little weird was the Natasha/Bruce romance - it makes sense, I suppose, but the first movie seemed to imply that she wants to jump on Hawkeye's arrow if you know what I mean, so it felt a little bait-and-switch-y? I dunno. Really cool movie regardless, will have to see it again.
That said, aren't Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver X-Men? I'm admittedly not a big follower of superhero movies and comics, but that bit surprised me.
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Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver have both appeared in X-Men and Avengers, since basically all Marvel characters have appeared in many different comics. Scarlet Witch was actually one of the original villains of X-Men and part of Magneto's team, and Magneto is actually the father to both Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch.
It's weird that both Marvel and Fox has the rights to them. I can understand Fox having it, since the connection to Magneto makes them part of the X-Men universe, but they have also played a part of Avengers, so I guess it just ended up in a weird situation where both companies could use them. In Marvel's case, they can't make any references to them being mutants though, so they changed their backstory.
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One thing I'm wondering, with the success of The Flash, do you think we may see a live action Spider-Man series soon?
No. Too big of a character.
Interestingly enough, even for the Marvel comic characters that Marvel Studios doesn't hold film rights for (X-Men, Fantastic Four, Spider-Man), it is my understanding that they DO have TV rights for them. So it would technically be possible for Marvel to introduce ANY of those characters into the MCU, as long as it was TV only. Which they don't want to do.
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^ That explains why they didn't get the same actor who played Quicksilver in Days of Future Past, I thought he did a great job there and was wondering why they didn't use him again for this movie. Not that I'm complaining about it; I would much rather have the X-Men universe stay separate from Marvel's cinematic universe since I don't like the latter one bit.
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Agents of Shield this week was incredible. And that last minute or so waw really cool! "Time to bring in the Avengers." Chills.
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Agents of Shield this week was incredible. And that last minute or so waw really cool! "Time to bring in the Avengers." Chills.
I agree. 10 pounds of fun in a 5 pound bag.
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One thing that felt a little weird was the Natasha/Bruce romance - it makes sense, I suppose, but the first movie seemed to imply that she wants to jump on Hawkeye's arrow if you know what I mean, so it felt a little bait-and-switch-y? I dunno. Really cool movie regardless, will have to see it again.
Oh, I dunno. Natasha is out to rescue Hawkeye in the first film, but you can definitely see the seeds of her romance with Bruce in the film too. Not just the fact that she was the one to pick Bruce up, but also the fact that she was the one who was present when he first goes Hulk in the film and chases her.
I actually called the two of them developing into a couple all the way back when the first film came out in 2012! :lol
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I can't say that I knew the romance would happen, but I had a pretty strong feeling that one between her and Hawkeye wouldn't. Their relationship in the first Avengers movie seemed more like one that would look like "romance" from the outside, but underneath was just a really strong friendship, and one that would be a bit too obvious to turn into romance.
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I can't say that I knew the romance would happen, but I had a pretty strong feeling that one between her and Hawkeye wouldn't. Their relationship in the first Avengers movie seemed more like one that would look like "romance" from the outside, but underneath was just a really strong friendship, and one that would be a bit too obvious to turn into romance.
The relationship between Bruce and Natasha was a bit of a Hail Mary on my part. I just figured that Whedon had bigger plans for the two of them, based on their scenes together in the first film. But either way, I was definitely confident that we wouldn't see a romance between Natasha and Hawkeye. Your description is spot-on.
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Heading out soon to a special Thursday 8:00 showing of AoU . . . counting the seconds!
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Heading out soon to a special Thursday 8:00 showing of AoU . . . counting the seconds!
Same! As much as I find it ridiculous that midnight screenings have slid into evening showings the day before, having to wake up at 4:45am for work has changed my tune. :corn
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I'm going to a 7:00 (Eastern) showing myself. Very excited. Might rewatch this week's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. to prepare...
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Started watching The Flash (for real this time) last night. I have to take that first comment back. Way better then I thought it would be.
Think I will enjoy this one as well.
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I've heard several people and reviewers say that X-Men's Quicksilver was better. I agree that the slo-mo kitchen scene was cooler than anything specific that the Avenger's Quicksilver did, but this new one is much more of a character. His story makes more sense and isn't just some guy who comes in to play ex-machina for a scene and then disappear. So my vote goes to Age of Ultron's Quicksilver.
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I prefer the X-Men version. I get your argument, but coming out of Days of Future Past, a lot of people were talking about Quicksilver and that one scene. I didn't hear anyone talking about him in the same way after Ultron. And considering how his story ends in the movie, I feel like he can end up being a slightly forgettable one time character, whereas Quicksilver in X-Men will appear in Apocalypse and continue appearing.
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I'll post more thoughts later, but some of the one-liners that I really loved:
Iron Man: "Nice talk."
Henchman: "No it wasn't."
Iron Man: "Please be a secret door... yay!"
Hawkeye: "The city is flying, we're fighting robots, I have a bow and arrow... nothing makes any sense."
Also, I JUST NOW got Tony Stark's tractor joke. "Hello Deere."
Oh, and let's not forget THAT moment.
Everyone: "How do we know we can trust you?"
The Vision: "Well, you don't really have much of a choice. Oh by the way, here's your hammer."
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I prefer the X-Men version. I get your argument, but coming out of Days of Future Past, a lot of people were talking about Quicksilver and that one scene. I didn't hear anyone talking about him in the same way after Ultron. And considering how his story ends in the movie, I feel like he can end up being a slightly forgettable one time character, whereas Quicksilver in X-Men will appear in Apocalypse and continue appearing.
Then I think we should wait until Apocalypse to compare him.
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*collection of fun stuff*
All awesome moments.
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Alright, so here are my thoughts. I was extremely tired at the time of writing this, so it may be random babbling. I don't know.
Okay, so I really loved Age of Ultron. There were a lot of elements that I thought were better than its predecessor, but I feel the first one was a stronger film overall. Not by much, though.
I think part of the appeal of the first one was the attraction of a crossover, because, honestly, everyone loves crossovers. Flintstones and Jetsons, Batman and Superman, Kong and Godzilla, etc. I don't know what it is, but it must be something about two supposedly separate universes colliding and creating a more massive and immersive universe. Since we've already dealt with that setup and "coming together" in the previous film, and somewhat know what to expect, part of that appeal was missing from this movie, though that's completely unavoidable. As a side note, and because of that, I think it was pretty smart to open with the heroes already fighting together at Von Strucker's castle. So, anyway, it lacked that epic setup that was a huge part of the first movie's hype, but it made up for that loss of magic in other ways.
For starters, and what really stands out to me, is the dialogue – something Joss Whedon is brilliant at. A couple of one-liners fell flat, but most of them were pure gold. And, my God, Spader. SPADER. I wish he would read me lullabies. The writing overall was really good, but I felt the movie wasn't paced as well as the first one. There was one scene in particular between Bruce and Natasha where I was thinking “Oh come on, end this scene and move on already.” They did, however, make up for that later with several “holy shit” moments. “Oh hey, you might need this hammer” is one that springs to mind. The entire theater had the same exact reaction as every member of the Avengers. Reactions like that are why I see movies like this on opening night.
The action was on par with the first. There wasn't really anything new, mostly because the bar was set so high with the first film. There were some pretty cool “fusion” moments, a la “Ultimate Alliance 2.” On numerous occasions during both films, I found myself thinking about how hard it must be to choreograph a fight scene with so many characters doing so much at the same time. Keeping that in mind, I think the first movie gets the edge solely due to the continuous shot with the camera panning from hero to hero to hero. That will be a hard one to top.
I think the overall story-telling was a tad better in the first, because its beauty was in the simplicity of the format. Heroes come together, overcome internal conflict, unite to rally against enemy. This film was more like... Heroes start out together, overcome internal conflict, fight some more together, another small internal conflict, add some more heroes to the mix, then unite once more against the enemy. I guess that could be a good thing because it means it wasn't just a rehashed version of the first movie. (I'm looking at you, Ghostbusters 2)
All in all it was a fun movie and delivered in pretty much every way imaginable; all my complaints are extremely minor ones. I'm sure I'll see it multiple times, and I'll probably catch more with every viewing. If I were to put the first one at 10/10, I'd give this an 8 or 9.
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While I think Age of Ultron is better than the first (by quite a margin), I think for a lot of people, the magic of the first movie was the fact that it was the first time we saw all these heroes on screen together. I think if the roles were switched and this was the first, I think few people would have preferred Avengers over Age of Ultron. Ultron is a far superior "big bad" villain, the movie is better paced, it's funnier, it doesn't spend 1 hour on the helicarrier, so it's better paced, and everybody gets to shine even more.
This is just my opinion though, so no need for the obligatory <opinions are opinions> posts. But I do think the fact that Avengers was the first and this is the second does take away the magic for a lot of people. Quality of both movies aside, you can only experience the magic of the first time once, and that's just how it is.
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Yeah, that's what I was getting at. Whenever I write my thoughts I tend to ramble, really.
Overall, I think the pacing of both movies was fine. It just really stuck out to me when they arrived at the safe house and randomly dumped us into the middle of Hawkeye's family. It was like slamming on the brakes of the movie and bringing it to a screeching halt. It just felt so out of place to the point my buddy and I looked at each other with "What the hell is going on?" glances. I thought Scarlet Witch was fucking with someone again.
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I have very strong opinions about this movie, one of which is what Metal Junkie just talked about. But alas it's 2:30am my time and I work at 8am. I will return to express my disappointment.
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I am a big fan of the MCU, but I never really loved the first Avengers movie. The dialogue is of course great, and yeah it's fun to see them together in a movie, but aside from that it's a mostly generic movie.
Age of Ultron however exceeded it in all areas. Really glad that I truly loved this one and that it didn't turn out to be as much of a let down the first one was. I think I gave the first one a 7.5/10 or something, so that's still a 'good rating', but it really didn't meet the hype it had for me.
I wouldn't have changed the safe house scenes, I thought they were great. I might have made the scenes with Hawkeye and his family a bit less cheesy and more mature, but I would have still wanted them in there.
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Alright, here's my take on Age of Ultron. There were some really cool geeky moments, but other wise, it was very, very flawed from the get go. For an Avengers movie, it needed more stakes. The whole set up for Ultron was mishandled. What made Loki work for the first Avengers movie is that there was build up and pathos for that character. With Ultron, he was introduced way too quick, and I felt like the filmmakers just plopped him in and wanted us just to accept him as the villain. His intentions are relatively evil yet ambiguous throughout most of the film. That entire first act should have been plotting and give Ultron proper characterization, not giving the fanboys cubbies with a Hulk vs. Iron Man scene that had no real purpose. Don't get me started on the second act. Just like the first Avengers, it hits the brakes and completely loses all the momentum.
The movie felt like fanboy pleasing then serving a full purpose and just felt like a setup with no real payoff. I felt like Whedon had to chop the shit out of it and ran out of time or had to play more to Marvel then his own storytelling gut. And instead of being the conclusion of Phase 2 it plays more of a bridge to Phase 3.
My favorite parts were watching the team fight like a team, and combine all their talents. Whedon stages the fight scenes well. Everything with The Vision was well done. In fact, everything with The Vision was the most exceptional parts of the movie.
It was fun to watch, and it wasn't a terrible movie, but it's far from the best the MCU has to offer. I had quibbles with The Avengers too, but it was better than Age of Ultron. 6/10
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I disagree with these things:
- "it was very, very flawed from the get go"
- "For an Avengers movie, it needed more stakes"
- "The whole set up for Ultron was mishandled"
- "not giving the fanboys cubbies with a Hulk vs. Iron Man scene that had no real purpose"
- "Just like the first Avengers, it hits the brakes and completely loses all the momentum"
- "The movie felt like fanboy pleasing then serving a full purpose and just felt like a setup with no real payoff"
- "I had quibbles with The Avengers too, but it was better than Age of Ultron"
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Couldn't you just have said you disagree with me completely? :lol
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I will agree slightly that Ultron could have used some more time in the start. I feel like one of the parts Whedon probably cut out was Ultron being created, and trimmed down some parts. It would have been cool if we got to see Ultron being "good" and part of the team, before starting to change and realizing that his version of a "perfect world" is different, and then becoming a villain.
However, I think Ultron as a villain is a bigger threat than Loki, who was essentially just a pawn. I disagree about the Iron Man vs Hulk fight lacking purpose, it actually served a great purpose in Hulk's story arc. Bruce Banner's whole story in the movie was about controlling the beast, and after that destruction scene, he got to witness how much destruction he caused. I feel like that whole sequence was key in his evolution, and probably the reason why he went off alone at the end. He knew he would be a risk if he stayed. While I sort of agree and see your point about the movie being a long homage to the fanboys, I think that also applies for the first Avengers. This takes it to another level, but I applaud that. So many scenes looked like they came straight out of the comics, and yet they fit beautifully into the movie.
I still think Age of Ultron beats Avengers, because of the reasons I stated earlier. It's better paced, has a more interesting villain and more memorable action set pieces. The only edge I can give to the first Avengers is that it was just that, it was the first. The magic of seeing them together again was not as strong, but the movie delivered IMO. And while some of the stand alone movies might be deeper and have more substance, I think that's hard to pull off in a team up movie. You have 5-10 heroes in Avengers, fighting against a villain and an army.. everybody needs time to shine, and creating character depth or a deeper story might be harder, compared to a stand-alone movie with just 1 hero. Bravo for what they did with Hawkeye though. He was pretty flat and useless in the first Avengers, yet here he was the soul of the movie.
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Started watching The Flash (for real this time) last night. I have to take that first comment back. Way better then I thought it would be.
Think I will enjoy this one as well.
Cool Cyclopsss. I haven't liked any of the superhero shows I've watched at first. I'm in to them now though and I've found Flash to be my favorite. I still need to revisit AoShield and after reading this thread Daredevil.
Hope you're enjoying it.
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AoU... I won't get to see this until Tuesday, but for $5 so that's cool. Can't wait, I've heard good tings.. Good tings.
At about what episode does AoShield get good? I haven't been into it and I'm wondering when it really takes off and gets good.
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Around midway through the first season is when it really picks up. Episode 10, to the best of my recollection, is the first one where something really big happens and it ends on a cliffhanger, it's also where things start getting really good.
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Couldn't you just have said you disagree with me completely? :lol
Well, there was a few things I thought were alright :lol
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The Hulk versus Iron Man scene just set up Bruce Banner's departure from the team and most likely planted seeds of doubt in the general populace about whether they could really trust these Avengers given their capacity for destruction. How could that scene not serve a purpose?
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Around midway through the first season is when it really picks up. Episode 10, to the best of my recollection, is the first one where something really big happens and it ends on a cliffhanger, it's also where things start getting really good.
Thanks, that's helpful.
I found it took Arrow and Walking Dead awhile for me so it's good to have an idea.
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Yeah, once it picks up, Agents of Shield only gets better. How long did it take you to get into Arrow? I gave it 18 episodes into the 1st season (stopping multiple times) and while some of the larger arcs are interesting, I couldn't stand the CW cheese factor, high school drama, and face-palming plot devices.
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I couldn't stand the CW cheese factor, high school drama, and face-palming plot devices.
This. Marvel wins every time because they have the sense to stay away from CW.
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Edit: Blargh, wrong thread.
I couldn't stand the CW cheese factor, high school drama, and face-palming plot devices.
This. Marvel wins every time because they have the sense to stay away from CW.
I kinda disagree. I think Arrow and The Flash came into their own much quicker than Agents of Shield. And, really, the only reason Agents got any better was because it was piggybacking off of the plot of The Winter Soldier and because of Bill Paxton.
That said, Arrow has definitely gone downhill this season, but those first two seasons were pretty good, despite being kinda cheesy (okay, really cheesy) at times.
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I have seen the movie, maybe I'll post my thoughts later, but until then, enjoy this review by the Onion (https://www.theonion.com/video/the-onion-reviews-avengers-age-of-ultron-38524). :)
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Best super hero movie ever.
Come at me, bros.
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Yeah, once it picks up, Agents of Shield only gets better. How long did it take you to get into Arrow? I gave it 18 episodes into the 1st season (stopping multiple times) and while some of the larger arcs are interesting, I couldn't stand the CW cheese factor, higa school drama, and face-palming plot devices.
:mehlin. Totally agree about the drama factor; drove me nuts. Really 18 sounds about right and I drug my feet getting through them too. My friend said season 2 would be good so I hung in there. The Flash crossover added some life to it I thought.
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Liked it more than the first, but similarly to the first I found it to be an entertaining movie, but not necessarily a good movie.
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Saw it this afternoon. Absolutely loved it, such a blast. The action was great, and the dialogue was hugely entertaining, but as others have commented, there was some really excellent darker and more serious stuff too.
Also very pleased at how much I like the various new Avengers. Scarlett Witch was especially awesome, and I thought Quicksilver was great too so was quite saddened to see him bite it. Liked the Vision as well, nice for Paul Bettany to be more than just a voice now!
One of my favourite things about the film was Hawkeye's family - so adorable and really grounded the film quite a lot!
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I was a little bit disappointed that Hulk didn't get a quip like in the first one when he did the puny God line, but I guess the throwing Ultron out the plane was the closest we were going to get. I'm sure he'll be back in time for IW, at least the second part.
Really solid follow up to the first one. Spader did a real good job as Ultron. Not so sure if I enjoyed it more than first one.
Here's a question I was wondering, was Thanos controlling Ultron in some way. With the mid credits scene, I almost kind of got that impression
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I would say no, but I know what you mean about the credits scene. "Fine, I'll do it myself" seems like a direct reaction to someone he has personally sent failing to collect the stones, but there's was no one doing that in this movie. I don't know how Ultron's plan would've helped Thanos, so I don't think it really had anything to do with that. Which is confusing, but hey, we saw Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet on his hand, holy shit.
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I would say no, but I know what you mean about the credits scene. "Fine, I'll do it myself" seems like a direct reaction to someone he has personally sent failing to collect the stones, but there's was no one doing that in this movie. I don't know how Ultron's plan would've helped Thanos, so I don't think it really had anything to do with that. Which is confusing, but hey, we saw Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet on his hand, holy shit.
I don't think it necessarily had anything to do with the film itself.
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I see peoples points about the Hulk vs Iron Man fight. Another thing i'll pay attention to on my second viewing.
One thing that drives me bonkers about both Avengers movies is how the second act comes to a screeching halt. Whedon thinks having a lot of exposition will give these multiple superheroes characterization with subplots that personally takes me away from the movie. I didn't care about Black Widow's past in this particular film. As much as I'm excited to see Captain Marvel on the big screen, there's big potential for an amazing Black Widow movie, using her past as a driving force. Hell, how the Netflix treatment with Daredevil worked out, it might be better just to have a Black Widow series.
One reason why I'm happy to see the Russo Bros taking over Civil War and Infinity Wars, because they know and showed the entire world how juggle multiple characters and a dense plot with depth, style, and humor. The Winter Soldier was engaging from start to finish, and there was multiple characters to play with. Whedon's biggest strengths in these films are staging the action scenes, which has been incredible, and as much flack as I'm giving AOU, those actions scenes are massively entertaining. Those team up shots, like when Captain and Black Widow shared his shield was fucking balls awesome. Everything else to me fell flat.
I don't hate Age of Ultron, it's better than a few other of the MCU films, but I wouldn't dare put in the top 5, or above the first Avengers movie. I just felt really underwhelmed where it rendered me disappointed.
I really wished i loved this film. I really do.
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I love Age of Ultron, and Ultron was probably my favorite part of the movie. There were way too many one liners, but the movie was great overall. The Avengers was probably the more fun movie, but Ultron was dark and serious, and it needed to be that way.
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Daredevil flip flops between being completely awesome, and insanely dingusy. The villains are just so laughable sometimes, mainly when the big wigs meet up to discuss NEFARIOUS MATTERS.
Too lazy to quote the line but the old guy in the crime boss ring mentioning a stun gun like it was threatening was hilarious.
I don't know this show just completely wins me and then it loses me.
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I love Age of Ultron, and Ultron was probably my favorite part of the movie. There were way too many one liners, but the movie was great overall. The Avengers was probably the more fun movie, but Ultron was dark and serious, and it needed to be that way.
My friends/co-workers make stupid one-liners all day during the work day. I see it the same way for the Avengers.
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I love Age of Ultron, and Ultron was probably my favorite part of the movie. There were way too many one liners, but the movie was great overall. The Avengers was probably the more fun movie, but Ultron was dark and serious, and it needed to be that way.
My friends/co-workers make stupid one-liners all day during the work day. I see it the same way for the Avengers.
Do they do it during life threatening situations? Arnold Schwarzenegger could have popped in, said a corny one liner and left and no one would have noticed.
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How is that any different from about any super hero movie in existance?
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They're not wearing hawkey pahhds
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I love Age of Ultron, and Ultron was probably my favorite part of the movie. There were way too many one liners, but the movie was great overall. The Avengers was probably the more fun movie, but Ultron was dark and serious, and it needed to be that way.
My friends/co-workers make stupid one-liners all day during the work day. I see it the same way for the Avengers.
Do they do it during life threatening situations? Arnold Schwarzenegger could have popped in, said a corny one liner and left and no one would have noticed.
I couldn't tell you. We don't typically run into life threatening situations at work.
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I see peoples points about the Hulk vs Iron Man fight. Another thing i'll pay attention to on my second viewing.
One thing that drives me bonkers about both Avengers movies is how the second act comes to a screeching halt. Whedon thinks having a lot of exposition will give these multiple superheroes characterization with subplots that personally takes me away from the movie. I didn't care about Black Widow's past in this particular film. As much as I'm excited to see Captain Marvel on the big screen, there's big potential for an amazing Black Widow movie, using her past as a driving force. Hell, how the Netflix treatment with Daredevil worked out, it might be better just to have a Black Widow series.
One reason why I'm happy to see the Russo Bros taking over Civil War and Infinity Wars, because they know and showed the entire world how juggle multiple characters and a dense plot with depth, style, and humor. The Winter Soldier was engaging from start to finish, and there was multiple characters to play with. Whedon's biggest strengths in these films are staging the action scenes, which has been incredible, and as much flack as I'm giving AOU, those actions scenes are massively entertaining. Those team up shots, like when Captain and Black Widow shared his shield was fucking balls awesome. Everything else to me fell flat.
I don't hate Age of Ultron, it's better than a few other of the MCU films, but I wouldn't dare put in the top 5, or above the first Avengers movie. I just felt really underwhelmed where it rendered me disappointed.
I really wished i loved this film. I really do.
I think my opinion is almost exactly opposite to yours. I mean, I also loved the action sequences, but they're just action sequences. What I love about Whedon's approach is exactly what you're criticising. Actually giving all the characters the right level of screen time, depth and story-prominence.
Yes the Russo brothers did that fine in The Winter Soilder, but let's be honest, it was mainly about Captain America. Whereas these ensemble films are very different, and Whedon is the master of them. I'm not saying the Russo brothers won't do a great job, just that The Winter Solider is an inherently easier film to do character development than the Avengers.
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Daredevil flip flops between being completely awesome, and insanely dingusy. The villains are just so laughable sometimes, mainly when the big wigs meet up to discuss NEFARIOUS MATTERS.
Too lazy to quote the line but the old guy in the crime boss ring mentioning a stun gun like it was threatening was hilarious.
I don't know this show just completely wins me and then it loses me.
Not getting that at all. Just watched episodes 4 & 5 last night (5 featured the scene you are mentioning), and I think the show started awesome and hasn't slipped at all.
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I honestly think that Daredevil could be the best thing Marvel has put out on screen. Obviously comparing a tv-show with a movie is a hard thing to do, but it's IMO more impressive to create a 13 episode season (13 hours) of awesome content than to make a great 2 hour movie. After finishing Daredevil, I feel like I know Matt Murdock more than I know Steve Rodgers or Tony Stark, they really did a good job. But I also think the tv show format (if done right) creates more chances to do that. Flesh out characters, establish connection. Usually tv-characters end up the most memorable, because you follow them for several years and episodes, and you really get close to them, in a different way from the movies.
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Yeah, TV characters get way more screen time and therefore character development than movie characters. If anything, I'd say it's harder to do that in a film, because you need to squeeze it into a very limited amount of time. Of course, movies have other benefits, such as effects budgets!
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But I also think the tv show format (if done right) creates more chances to do that. Flesh out characters, establish connection. Usually tv-characters end up the most memorable, because you follow them for several years and episodes, and you really get close to them, in a different way from the movies.
Yeah, that is a significant part of why, as I've realized lately, my favorite character in the entire Marvel Cinematic Universe is not a superhero at all, but is actually Phil Coulson. Since first meeting him all the way back in 2008, we've seen his character slowly get fleshed out over the course of four films and then almost two seasons of a TV show. I definitely feel more of a connection to Coulson than I do to, say, Steve Rogers or Thor.
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Martin Freeman Joins Marvel's 'Captain America: Civil War' (https://marvel.com/news/movies/24562/martin_freeman_joins_marvels_captain_america_civil_war)
:metal
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My turn.... :caffeine:
Edit: Ridiculous frikkin flick... So much damn fun.
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Just saw AoU. I liked it! I think a few things could have been explained a bit better because the movie moved pretty fast through Ultrons creation and Thor's side plot, but overall it was good.
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I have to say, Mark Ruffalo is a great actor most of the time, but when he's reacting to seeing the crystal brain thing or Jarvis being destroyed, it's not convincing at all. He's obviously not very good at reacting to things that aren't actually right in front of him. He's so bad in those scenes, I just laugh. :lol
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I didn't notice that at all.
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Awesome episode of Agents of Shield this week. Those last few minutes were really tense.
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Awesome episode of Agents of Shield this week. Those last few minutes were really tense.
Didn't get to see it last night. I'll catch it tonight.
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I didn't notice that at all.
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I thought about it too, but not just limited to Mark Ruffalo. The actors must feel pretty stupid standing there and supposedly looking at something, but all they see is thin air. He looks just about as dumb as I would feel if I tried doing it.
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Awesome episode of Agents of Shield this week. Those last few minutes were really tense.
Quite awesome indeed!
**Spoilers from last night's AoS follow**
I was kind of sad to see Gonzales go. After all this time, I was finally getting to a place where I think I could appreciate his more hard-line counterpoint to Coulson, and Edward James Olmos is a fantastic actor. Then again, the Coulson fan in me is relieved that there will probably be fewer attacks on his authority from the council.
It'll be interesting to see where Skye ends up in this. I was mostly neutral in the S.H.I.E.L.D. vs. Inhumans thing early in the episode, when I was hoping that Coulson could broker a peaceful arrangement with Jiaying. But now I'm leaning towards the side of S.H.I.E.L.D., because there was no reason for Jiaying to kill Gonzales like that.
And then Grant fucking Ward. Honestly, Ward has become one of my favorite TV villains. Even though I know he's out there, I never quite expect him to show up, but then he does. It's always a mystery of when he's going to turn up next and with what agenda. And I think the fact that we spent the first 16 episodes of the show learning about him as a good guy really adds to the drama of his role as one of the main villains. In any case, an excellent appearance from him again, though it was brief. Hopefully he plays a bigger role in the finale, because the tensions are just higher when Grant Ward is around.
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I missed AOS last night. :( I have been in D.C. for the past week, and just got home last night. My wife is changing our TV service and had cancelled AT&T, but the new service is installing today, so there was nothing in place to record it. I am bummed.
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I missed AOS last night. :( I have been in D.C. for the past week, and just got home last night. My wife is changing our TV service and had cancelled AT&T, but the new service is installing today, so there was nothing in place to record it. I am bummed.
Does your new service have an On Demand feature? That's how I'm watching tonight.
Also, it will probably be available on ABC.com.
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I don't understand this witchcraft you speak of.
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It's available on ABC.com. I've watched tons of episodes that I missed that way. You will probably have to put in your cable company password and stuff, but you'll be able to watch it.
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Just started watching Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and Arrow. Addictive! :tup
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I merged the Avengers topic into this one.
Also:
(https://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i238/hefdaddy42/funny/cap%20gets%20crap_zpsalavkeby.jpg)
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Does that mean that spoiler stuff is okay in here?
And also, did you see the episode last night?
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Since the thread title has "*SPOILERS*" in it, yes, it is okay. :lol
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"Don't trust anything. Especially bosk." ;)
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"Don't trust anything. Especially bosk." ;)
Relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSsncQUH9Jc
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Haven't had time to comment, but I DID catch Age of Ultron in D.C. last Saturday night. My wife and I decided somewhat last minute to see if we could get tickets after dinner, and ended up being able to get good seats at a 3-D showing.
Perhaps the most definitive thing I can say about it is that it is do DENSE that I need to see it again, probably a couple of times, before I can draw any conclusions. There was so much crammed in that it felt like some things that bore greater explanation or needed a bit more time to develop, seemed to get short shrift. A couple that come to mind are (1) Thor and Dr. Selvig going to the pool, and (2) the Avengers' seemingly overly-fast acceptance of Vision being on the team merely by virtue of him basically saying, "Hey, I'm a good guy, let's team up and stop Ultron" (and, to a lesser extent, the same with the twins). But I dunno. Repeat viewings may make me feel differently. Overall, it didn't bother me MUCH. But then again, once the "honeymoon" with the film wears off, I could also possibly find that things like that seem even more glaring.
Still, it was a thoroughly enjoyable film. I kind of wish Marvel would stop trying to push the envelope with the action scenes to the point where they sometimes feel more like a video game than a film. And I definitely wish they would stop trying to push the envelope with the language. That is thoroughly unnecessary. But those things aside, I enjoyed it.
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"Don't trust anything. Especially bosk." ;)
Relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSsncQUH9Jc
This is how I'll picture you from now on.
the Avengers' seemingly overly-fast acceptance of Vision being on the team merely by virtue of him basically saying, "Hey, I'm a good guy, let's team up and stop Ultron"
I'm fine with that because feel like they did a job of getting the feeling of urgency and necessity across. They had to make a fast decision in order to deal with Ultron as quickly as possible.
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"Don't trust anything. Especially bosk." ;)
Relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSsncQUH9Jc
This is how I'll picture you from now on.
Promise? :eyebrows:
the Avengers' seemingly overly-fast acceptance of Vision being on the team merely by virtue of him basically saying, "Hey, I'm a good guy, let's team up and stop Ultron"
I'm fine with that because feel like they did a job of getting the feeling of urgency and necessity across. They had to make a fast decision in order to deal with Ultron as quickly as possible.
Yeah, I hear you. And even from the moment I saw it, I was telling myself the same thing. I can intellectualize and tell myself that it makes sense. But if I have to consciously tell myself that it makes sense, it does not feel as genuine as if it just intrinsically makes sense on an emotional level without having to consciously think it through, know what I mean?
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Yeah. I don't feel the same way, but sure, I get that.
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Agent Carter and Agents of SHIELD both renewed! :tup
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the Avengers' seemingly overly-fast acceptance of Vision being on the team merely by virtue of him basically saying, "Hey, I'm a good guy, let's team up and stop Ultron"
I'm fine with that because feel like they did a job of getting the feeling of urgency and necessity across. They had to make a fast decision in order to deal with Ultron as quickly as possible.
I think it also helps that Vision is, at least partly, Jarvis. Not entirely, as he himself admits, but he has Jarvis's voice and Jarvis definitely serves as a basis for a lot of what Vision is.
I think the fact that he lifted Mjolnir also helped them to trust him. Particularly where Thor is concerned. In Thor's eyes, certainly, I think that indicated that Vision is in some way "worthy." I think it's actually kind of cool the way that comedic scene where all the Avengers tried to lift Mjolnir later figured into the plot on a more serious level, by the way.
And I definitely wish they would stop trying to push the envelope with the language. That is thoroughly unnecessary. But those things aside, I enjoyed it.
Okay Cap :biggrin:
Agent Carter and Agents of SHIELD both renewed! :tup
Excellent news!
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the Avengers' seemingly overly-fast acceptance of Vision being on the team merely by virtue of him basically saying, "Hey, I'm a good guy, let's team up and stop Ultron"
I'm fine with that because feel like they did a job of getting the feeling of urgency and necessity across. They had to make a fast decision in order to deal with Ultron as quickly as possible.
I think it also helps that Vision is, at least partly, Jarvis. Not entirely, as he himself admits, but he has Jarvis's voice and Jarvis definitely serves as a basis for a lot of what Vision is.
I think the fact that he lifted Mjolnir also helped them to trust him. Particularly where Thor is concerned. In Thor's eyes, certainly, I think that indicated that Vision is in some way "worthy." I think it's actually kind of cool the way that comedic scene where all the Avengers tried to lift Mjolnir later figured into the plot on a more serious level, by the way.
Yes, that's true too. And as I said in my original post on the subject, I may very well change my mind after another few viewings.
There was one seeming plot hole, however. And maybe this was addressed somehow as well, and I just missed it. Ultron is not a robot, as I often see him referred to in reviews. He is a consciousness that escaped out into the Internet. As a result, he is everywhere and, thus, cannot be extinguished without shutting down the entire Internet and destroying every machine that had access. So...why/how were the Avengers able to destroy him? How are they even under the illusion that they could have done so? Again, maybe this was explained and I just missed it. I was physically and mentally exhausted when I saw this late Saturday night, so that is a possibility. But can anyone elaborate?
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Still, it was a thoroughly enjoyable film. I kind of wish Marvel would stop trying to push the envelope with the action scenes to the point where they sometimes feel more like a video game than a film. And I definitely wish they would stop trying to push the envelope with the language. That is thoroughly unnecessary. But those things aside, I enjoyed it.
During the opening action scene, my girlfriend turned to me and said, "this looks like a video game". I'm not sure that was a good thing. It was very animated though.
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the Avengers' seemingly overly-fast acceptance of Vision being on the team merely by virtue of him basically saying, "Hey, I'm a good guy, let's team up and stop Ultron"
I'm fine with that because feel like they did a job of getting the feeling of urgency and necessity across. They had to make a fast decision in order to deal with Ultron as quickly as possible.
Yeah, I hear you. And even from the moment I saw it, I was telling myself the same thing. I can intellectualize and tell myself that it makes sense. But if I have to consciously tell myself that it makes sense, it does not feel as genuine as if it just intrinsically makes sense on an emotional level without having to consciously think it through, know what I mean?
My interpretation is that the lifting of Thor's hammer sealed the deal.
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There was one seeming plot hole, however. And maybe this was addressed somehow as well, and I just missed it. Ultron is not a robot, as I often see him referred to in reviews. He is a consciousness that escaped out into the Internet. As a result, he is everywhere and, thus, cannot be extinguished without shutting down the entire Internet and destroying every machine that had access. So...why/how were the Avengers able to destroy him? How are they even under the illusion that they could have done so? Again, maybe this was explained and I just missed it. I was physically and mentally exhausted when I saw this late Saturday night, so that is a possibility. But can anyone elaborate?
From what I understand, the Vision shut Ultron out of the Internet during the final fight so that Ultron couldn't escape through there.
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I don't see that as a plot hole. i see it more as planting the seeds on how Ultron could come back in future installments. :)
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I think it is extremely unlikely that Ultron will come back. I think ThatOneGuy2112 is correct.
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There was one seeming plot hole, however. And maybe this was addressed somehow as well, and I just missed it. Ultron is not a robot, as I often see him referred to in reviews. He is a consciousness that escaped out into the Internet. As a result, he is everywhere and, thus, cannot be extinguished without shutting down the entire Internet and destroying every machine that had access. So...why/how were the Avengers able to destroy him? How are they even under the illusion that they could have done so? Again, maybe this was explained and I just missed it. I was physically and mentally exhausted when I saw this late Saturday night, so that is a possibility. But can anyone elaborate?
From what I understand, the Vision shut Ultron out of the Internet during the final fight so that Ultron couldn't escape through there.
Yeah, when the Vision and Ultron faced off, the Vision attached something to his head I think, that essentially stopped him being able to transfer across different bodies. And then the Avengers chased down and destroyed every robot in the army to ensure there were no traces of Ultron left.
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There was one seeming plot hole, however. And maybe this was addressed somehow as well, and I just missed it. Ultron is not a robot, as I often see him referred to in reviews. He is a consciousness that escaped out into the Internet. As a result, he is everywhere and, thus, cannot be extinguished without shutting down the entire Internet and destroying every machine that had access. So...why/how were the Avengers able to destroy him? How are they even under the illusion that they could have done so? Again, maybe this was explained and I just missed it. I was physically and mentally exhausted when I saw this late Saturday night, so that is a possibility. But can anyone elaborate?
From what I understand, the Vision shut Ultron out of the Internet during the final fight so that Ultron couldn't escape through there.
Yes. The Vision burned Ultron out of the internet at the start of the fight. It's stated rather explicitly, actually.
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Saw Age of Ultron the other night, overall pretty good. The first scene was way too corny at points though, I almost wanted to leave. Most of the jokes were just unbearable, like when Tony Stark was like "Well that was a good talk" and one of the Hydra henchmen was like "No it wasn't". I cringed. Luckily things picked up massively afterwards.
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Strange, I loved that line! I thought the whole movie was really funny.
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Saw Age of Ultron the other night, overall pretty good. The first scene was way too corny at points though, I almost wanted to leave. Most of the jokes were just unbearable, like when Tony Stark was like "Well that was a good talk" and one of the Hydra henchmen was like "No it wasn't". I cringed. Luckily things picked up massively afterwards.
Funniest line in the movie as corny as it was.
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I loved Ultron's line, "Oh, come on now".
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Yeah, that 'good talk - no it wasn't' thing was really silly. It's all uphill from there though.
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I believe there is a massive amount of deleted scenes that help flesh things out so that they are explained better. The DVD is supposed to contain a director's cut of 3 hours or so. :metal
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I believe there is a massive amount of deleted scenes that help flesh things out so that they are explained better. The DVD is supposed to contain a director's cut of 3 hours or so. :metal
Actually, Whedon said there would be no director's cut. Although there will be a shitload of deleted scenes.
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I liked the new Avengers movie but something just felt off about it. I get so tired of the one liners, and there were some cheesy moments. I also felt Ultron was very underwhelming as the trailer had me super excited. It also had too much action, I thought. I don't know, maybe I'm just burned out on these Marvel movies. Not a bad movie at all, but it wasn't necessarily great to me.
The Winter Soldier still probably the best Marvel movie aside from Guardians for me.
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I believe there is a massive amount of deleted scenes that help flesh things out so that they are explained better. The DVD is supposed to contain a director's cut of 3 hours or so. :metal
Actually, Whedon said there would be no director's cut. Although there will be a shitload of deleted scenes.
Are you sure? Because I've seen lots of stories about how the blue-ray is going to have an extended cut.
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I believe there is a massive amount of deleted scenes that help flesh things out so that they are explained better. The DVD is supposed to contain a director's cut of 3 hours or so. :metal
Actually, Whedon said there would be no director's cut. Although there will be a shitload of deleted scenes.
Are you sure? Because I've seen lots of stories about how the blue-ray is going to have an extended cut.
I'm sure that he said it. Early reports came from a faulty entry on Amazon Australia.
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No love for Agents of SHIELD yet this morning? I am shocked. I thought the finale was spectacular.
And...did he really say "Science, biatch?" :lol
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Just finished the finale, super exciting stuff!
Greatest moments, just as it has been throughout the season, were with Skye. Especially the final scene between her, her mother, and Cal. I really could feel Cal's pain over what he had to do. And what a way to do it...
Also, something I adored about this finale, is that seems to have created some lasting character damage, just as it did last season with Fitz. Even though I don't necessarily want to see the characters hurt, damage always helps to engage me in a show and care even more for these people. Bobbi seems to be in truly bad shape, and of course, Coulson lost a hand! That was unexpected. I thought for sure that he would be able to hold the crystal since he has Kree blood in him. I at first thought that the damage Skye's mother did to Skye's skin would also be lasting, which would have been really cool, but I can live with her going back to normal.
Really great end to a great season.
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I thought for sure that he would be able to hold the crystal since he has Kree blood in him.
Yeah, same here. In about half a second, my reaction went:
1. :omg: Oh no! Crystal! Coulson! :dangerwillrobinson:
2. Wait, he has Kree blood, so maybe it is just a fakeout, and everything will be--
3. :omg: :omg: :omg: Mack! Coulson! What? :omg: :omg: :omg:
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Haha yeah that was pretty much my thinking while that happened too.
And what the hell was that shit that happened to Simmons at the end?? That was super freaky.
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my friend pointed out that they continued the Phase 2 tradition of someone losing a hand in every film :lol
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That and the last scene was fantastic. Damn cliffhangers.
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We didn't get to see it Tuesday night, so we caught up last night.
Holy crap! What a finale!
I loved that they continued the Phase 2 "lose a hand" thing. That was awesome. Plus, now Coulson can get a bionic hand with repulsor technology. Or something.
I loved "Science, biatch!" We were all ROLLING.
That scene at the very end was terrifying. I'm glad the series got renewed so we can find out what that thing is and what happened to Simmons.
I'm waiting for the Kree blood in Coulson's system to give him weird super powers.
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Saw in another chat somewhere where someone was asking why Dethlok was not in this episode. It was pointed out that he is being repaired and needs a new leg. The response: "Oh, so they must have been waiting for Coulson to order his hand so they could get free shipping from Amazon." :lol
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:lol
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Who has lost hands in previous phase 2 stuff? I know Thor fake-loses it in The Dark World, but that's all I remember.
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https://www.ew.com/article/2015/04/22/marvel-star-wars-homage
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I have seen him say that, so yeah, I was familiar with the concept. But I was not expecting it to surface in AoS. Caught me totally by surprise.
So...extrapolating the last sentence in the article and taking the concept to its logical conclusion: After phase 3, we will get a prequel phase with Jar Jar references, right? :caffeine:
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No, Phase 2 mirrored Empire.
If anything, Phase 3 will mirror Jedi, and we will be littered with Ewoks, from Asgard to Manhattan to Wakanda to wherever the Guardians happen to be.
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Exactly. That's why I am saying that after phase 3, we will get a prequel phase.
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Guess it would help if I actually READ what you write lol
I would absolutely love it if Guardians 2 somehow featured a Jar Jar skeleton. Although JJ Abrams hinted that he may put the skeleton somewhere in the desert scenes of SW Ep. VII.
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After seeing Scarjo in a bunch of talk shows, I gotta say they really uglify her for the BW role.
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After seeing Scarjo in a bunch of talk shows, I gotta say they really uglify her for the BW role.
Not sure what you're talking about. I think she's gorgeous as Black Widow.
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I just saw the Avengers. It was alright.
I thought it was interesting that in this film, they really explicitly make the point that the Avengers are not just trying to destroy the robot/s, they are trying to save every person in sight at the same time. I mean, the plot necessitates it - Ultron claims they are the problem, and the twins basically exist because they weren't trying hard enough to fight the baddies without collateral damage, so they feel they have to counter that vibe and right their wrong - but I feel like they drove that home in this film for bigger reasons, possibly.
I don't watch a lot of superhero movies, but I don't really get the sense from what I ever hear or see of them that, at least recently, the heroes in the films are ever explicitly trying to save much of anyone in a concrete sense. True, they're fighting a baddie who wants to do something bad which will hurt/kill people, but these kind of conflicts are quite removed from the idea of a superhero swooping down to save a person from a burning building.
This movie managed to unite both of those images/aspects of a superhero better than any film of this kind I feel I've seen in I can't remember how long. Not that I watch a shit ton of them, but from the partial/complete ones I've seen and what I've heard/read of the plots of the others, that's the impression I've gotten, though I wouldn't be surprised if there were examples I'm not aware of.
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As to other things:
Ultron was too cartoon CGI for me, just couldn't get into him. The Vision dude was cool, I really like that actor, so I was happy when he came out of the tank.
For all the one-liners, probably the funniest moment in the whole film was Thor getting silently handed the hammer.
After the movie, my friend was like, "you can see why Iron Man/Stark is basically the central character. He's so much funnier and more interesting than one like Banner/Hulk, whose story is basically "I can't handle my own strength". My feelings are basically the opposite of that. Stark is such a cocky asshole, I find it difficult to care about him at all, whereas every moment with Banner is great, and his concerns seem far more grounded and human than most of the other characters (I kind of think that's why they added Hawkeye's family). The romance was quite corny and in your face, but romances generally are in film, and it helped to create more of an interesting story for him, so whatever.
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I agree with you completely about Banner being more interesting than Stark, and about the Avengers trying to save everyone.
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The five stages of watching a Marvel movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvjMJEqkDqA
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This afternoon, I found time to finally catch episodes 6 & 7 of Daredevil. Holy crap, this show is awesome. Scott Glenn has always been one of my favorite actors, and I thought he was great as Stick. But that part at the end was a mystery.
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Daredevil is awesome, probably even the best Marvel has produced on the big screen. What made the show go from great to fantastic IMO was Wilson Fisk. What an amazing villain.
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Daredevil is awesome, probably even the best Marvel has produced on the big screen. What made the show go from great to fantastic IMO was Wilson Fisk. What an amazing villain.
Oh yes. I loved, love, LOVED his phone conversation with DD. That was fantastic. Can't wait to see where it goes from here.
It's just hard to find time to watch it.
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I can relate. I binged through DD fairly quickly, but I also had a weekend with tons of time, so it was easy. I've been interested in checking out The Flash, because I've heard so many good things about it, but I feel a bit torn on the subject. I feel like, if I were to watch The Flash, I would want to watch Green Arrow first (because I know The Flash's origins was in a GA episode, or something like that? A tie-in at least), and that show also has a few seasons. So all of a sudden I would have to devote a lot of time to a whole cinematic universe, when all I really feel interested in is The Flash. (I've heard very mixed things on Green Arrow)
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I expected nothing from the Flash, but I love how it ties in with Arrow, starting the second season. Loved those episodes.
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I can relate. I binged through DD fairly quickly, but I also had a weekend with tons of time, so it was easy. I've been interested in checking out The Flash, because I've heard so many good things about it, but I feel a bit torn on the subject. I feel like, if I were to watch The Flash, I would want to watch Green Arrow first (because I know The Flash's origins was in a GA episode, or something like that? A tie-in at least), and that show also has a few seasons. So all of a sudden I would have to devote a lot of time to a whole cinematic universe, when all I really feel interested in is The Flash. (I've heard very mixed things on Green Arrow)
Before this season, I had never watched Arrow. I started with the Flash, and read stuff on Wikipedia to get caught up on Arrow, then started on Arrow. That worked fine for me. Now I've seen this season of Arrow and of Flash, and feel completely caught up. Never watched the first two seasons of Arrow.
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While characters from the shows do crossover every so often, neither is necessary viewing if you are only interested in one of them. The most you would miss out on by not watching Arrow first is how Barry and Oliver meet, and you would miss a few Arrow episodes where Barry helps Oliver out, but none of those crossovers are tied plotwise into The Flash. Most of them don't even get referenced at all.
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I can relate. I binged through DD fairly quickly, but I also had a weekend with tons of time, so it was easy. I've been interested in checking out The Flash, because I've heard so many good things about it, but I feel a bit torn on the subject. I feel like, if I were to watch The Flash, I would want to watch Green Arrow first (because I know The Flash's origins was in a GA episode, or something like that? A tie-in at least), and that show also has a few seasons. So all of a sudden I would have to devote a lot of time to a whole cinematic universe, when all I really feel interested in is The Flash. (I've heard very mixed things on Green Arrow)
Before this season, I had never watched Arrow. I started with the Flash, and read stuff on Wikipedia to get caught up on Arrow, then started on Arrow. That worked fine for me. Now I've seen this season of Arrow and of Flash, and feel completely caught up. Never watched the first two seasons of Arrow.
You should check out the first two seasons. Easily better than the latest season.
Plus, more Deathstroke.
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I can relate. I binged through DD fairly quickly, but I also had a weekend with tons of time, so it was easy. I've been interested in checking out The Flash, because I've heard so many good things about it, but I feel a bit torn on the subject. I feel like, if I were to watch The Flash, I would want to watch Green Arrow first (because I know The Flash's origins was in a GA episode, or something like that? A tie-in at least), and that show also has a few seasons. So all of a sudden I would have to devote a lot of time to a whole cinematic universe, when all I really feel interested in is The Flash. (I've heard very mixed things on Green Arrow)
Before this season, I had never watched Arrow. I started with the Flash, and read stuff on Wikipedia to get caught up on Arrow, then started on Arrow. That worked fine for me. Now I've seen this season of Arrow and of Flash, and feel completely caught up. Never watched the first two seasons of Arrow.
You should check out the first two seasons. Easily better than the latest season.
Plus, more Deathstroke.
I don't have time to do that. I feel like I'm caught up with where all the characters are at right now. I don't feel a great need to go back and find out where they used to be. Especially when there are too many other shows out there I want to see that I don't have time to catch.
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From what I have heard about Green Arrow, it starts off strong for the first 2 (?) seasons and then goes downhill pretty fast, or at least wanders around aimlessly. I wouldn't know, but my hesitation comes more from the fact that Green Arrow doesn't seem all that interesting as a hero. But if people encourage me, I'd be willing to check it out.. once I have some time. ;D
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The show surprised me quite a bit. I´m halfway into season two right now and my opinion is that they pack a lot of character depth and interesting plotlines and background stories in just a 42 minute show. The casting is perfect and although not as realistic as Daredevil is, I find it really satisfying to watch a hero with a bow and arrows (and a little tech help) solve problems against the odds. I really like it. :tup
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From what I have heard about Green Arrow, it starts off strong for the first 2 (?) seasons and then goes downhill pretty fast, or at least wanders around aimlessly. I wouldn't know, but my hesitation comes more from the fact that Green Arrow doesn't seem all that interesting as a hero. But if people encourage me, I'd be willing to check it out.. once I have some time. ;D
Season 3, IMO, pretty much sucks. The first half of season 1 is kinda weak, it's still finding its feet in a Agents of Shield kind of way, but whereas the first three quarters of Shield's first season is just boring, Arrow is a bit campy but fun, with some great action scenes and a few fun characters and over-the-top villains. The second half of the first season through the second season is, I think, pretty good all around.
Arrow is pretty much Batman with a bow and arrow who occasionally kills people. So if you like Batman, you'll probably like Arrow.
I can relate. I binged through DD fairly quickly, but I also had a weekend with tons of time, so it was easy. I've been interested in checking out The Flash, because I've heard so many good things about it, but I feel a bit torn on the subject. I feel like, if I were to watch The Flash, I would want to watch Green Arrow first (because I know The Flash's origins was in a GA episode, or something like that? A tie-in at least), and that show also has a few seasons. So all of a sudden I would have to devote a lot of time to a whole cinematic universe, when all I really feel interested in is The Flash. (I've heard very mixed things on Green Arrow)
Before this season, I had never watched Arrow. I started with the Flash, and read stuff on Wikipedia to get caught up on Arrow, then started on Arrow. That worked fine for me. Now I've seen this season of Arrow and of Flash, and feel completely caught up. Never watched the first two seasons of Arrow.
You should check out the first two seasons. Easily better than the latest season.
Plus, more Deathstroke.
I don't have time to do that. I feel like I'm caught up with where all the characters are at right now. I don't feel a great need to go back and find out where they used to be. Especially when there are too many other shows out there I want to see that I don't have time to catch.
Understandable, I just think it's too bad you got caught up during the show's worst season.
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The first two seasons may be better, but this season was fun. I didn't have any problems with it.
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The first 2 seasons we're better but the third wasn't as bad as people portray.
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Alright, that hallway fight scene in episode 2 of Daredevil was awesome.
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Alright, that hallway fight scene in episode 2 of Daredevil was awesome.
Yes, yes it is.
The first two seasons may be better, but this season was fun. I didn't have any problems with it.
I'm very picky sometimes.
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From what I have heard about Green Arrow, it starts off strong for the first 2 (?) seasons and then goes downhill pretty fast, or at least wanders around aimlessly. I wouldn't know, but my hesitation comes more from the fact that Green Arrow doesn't seem all that interesting as a hero. But if people encourage me, I'd be willing to check it out.. once I have some time. ;D
Mike Grell's run on the comic is one of my favorite comic book series ever. The show didn't really do much for me.
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I can't read the article on this computer, but the email I just received from Variety says:
Jon Bernthal Joins 'Daredevil' Season 2 as The Punisher
"The Walking Dead" and "Fury" star Jon Bernthal has joined the second season of "Daredevil" as The Punisher, Marvel announced Tue...
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Called it!!!
It's not too late for Bernthal to get on Civil War, is it? lol :metal
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I just watched the pilot for Daredevil. I ignored it until now because I thought it was going to be pg-8 like Flash or Arrow but apparently that's not the case. I liked the first episode a lot. It was refreshing to see him portrayed as pretty much human, not exactly a "superhero" where he was quite vulnerable when facing opponents. It made them all the better and more exciting to watch. That, and Deborah Woll is in it.
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It's definitely not PG-anything.
Very exciting to hear that the Punisher will be involved. It's a natural fit.
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(https://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i238/hefdaddy42/other/ant-man-captain-america-newposter1-680x992_large_zpstus8hk2m.jpg)
Similar new posters released today show him on Iron Man's armor and Thor's hammer.
lol
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??? I don't get it. Why is there a giant Captain America shield?
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I don't know if there is anything to get. It's showing an iconic thing from an A-list character which won't be in this film. It's just funny.
The Iron Man shows him standing on IM's shoulder. The Thor one shows him on the hammer.
I don't know, I'm not sure it's deep, I just like it.
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But why is Cap's shield giant sized?
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But why is Cap's shield giant sized?
Not sure if you're serious but I assume it's meant to be that Ant-man is small, being Ant-man and all...
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But why is Cap's shield giant sized?
Oh Lord of this forum, have you seen the trailer when Ant Man shrinks himself to a size of an ant? also, he does become part of the Avengers in the comic books so........
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No. Not familiar with the character at all.
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Well dammit! I just spoiled something for you. King smash.
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So...he's a really short dude then?
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The suit allows him to shrink to the size of an ant with the strength of his normal sized self.
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Sounds about as useful as taking Aquaman to fight terrorists in the desert.
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Hey, I'll reserve judgement until I see it.
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Sounds about as useful as taking Aquaman to fight terrorists in the desert.
Watch the trailer. Or any of the TV spots.
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Only a matter of time before a fan-produced poster appeared. lol
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I'm a fan.
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I think Ant-Man might end up being the Marvel-movie of 2015 that everybody buzzes about, even more than AoU.
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Finally saw Ultron last night.
It was great, but all it did was make me excited for Cival War, and strangely enough, Antman.
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So, with the passage of time and some more movies under our belts, what do people think now of the "Loki won" theory after Avengers? For those not familiar, good article here: https://maskofreason.wordpress.com/2012/05/23/very-good-writing-why-loki-won-in-the-avengers/
The gist of it is:
See, Loki wanted them to defeat the Chitauri. He wanted to lose the battle in New York. Why? So he could be taken back to Asgard. That was his plan all along. He never cared about conquering Earth. He never cared about defeating the Avengers. He just wanted a ride back to his home, the place he DOES want to conquer. And he got it, first class accommodations right back to Asgard. You can even see the smirk at the end when he’s got the gag on. It’s in his eyes. He won, and the heroes all thought they did. What better than to beat your enemies and make them think they won?
What is not quite clear to me is whether he is working with Thanos or working contrary to Thanos and trying to play him. But in any case, I fully buy into this theary. I thought it was cool at the time and could very well end up being true. But now I am pretty convinced. Since then, Loki had pretty comfortable accommodations in Asgard jail until he broke out in Thor 2. And at the end of that film, we know that he is now sitting on the throne in secret. He also had the reality stone (the aether) sent away.
Thanos, meanwhile, does not appear overly upset by anything that has happened thus far, other than perhaps Ultron losing the mind stone (which Thanos seems to have had a hand in Ultron getting back in the first place). We also see that Thanos has the gauntlet, which was previously in Asgard, which is controlled by Loki.
Not sure how this is all going to unfold. But it sure looks like Loki and Thanos are playing out a master plan that, by and large, is going in the direction they want it to. I just cannot tell whether they are truly working together or secretly double crossing each other.
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Interesting theory, but I think there would have been an easier way then going through all the trouble he did in the Avengers. ... By the way for a laugh HISHE just released this.
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MintyNewsAndReviews/news/?a=121785
If you've never watched HISHE you're in for a treat.
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We also see that Thanos has the gauntlet, which was previously in Asgard, which is controlled by Loki.
Nope, the gauntlet he has at the end of AOU is left-handed, the one in Asgard is right-handed. There are two gauntlets in the MCU: https://www.slashfilm.com/mcu-infinity-gauntlets-thanos/
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Yeah, the one he grabbed at the end wasn't from Odin's vault.
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We also see that Thanos has the gauntlet, which was previously in Asgard, which is controlled by Loki.
Nope, the gauntlet he has at the end of AOU is left-handed, the one in Asgard is right-handed. There are two gauntlets in the MCU: https://www.slashfilm.com/mcu-infinity-gauntlets-thanos/
Ah, okay. But even without that, there is still plenty to back up the theory. I still think Loki had a bigger plan, and that everything that happened in Avengers, including the defeat of the Chitauri and his arrest, were part of that plan.
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Yeah, I believe that pretty firmly as well.
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Could be, could be.
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Oh, and the latest HISHE is amazing. I thought the first one for AoU was lacking, but this one is great.
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I love the 'Villain Pub' concept, those scenes are usually hilarious.
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A new GIF showing all of the Iron Man armors from the films. Granted, most of them are from Iron Man 3 and were unmanned, but still cool.
Obviously does not include the "Bleeding Edge" armor that he will apparently don in Captain America: Civil War.
(https://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i238/hefdaddy42/other/ironman_zps3n1aikns.gif)
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Tom Holland is officially our new Spider-Man and Jon Watts will be directing his first solo film! :metal
Sony Pictures and Marvel Studios are proud to announce that after a full worldwide casting search, Tom Holland will play Peter Parker/Spider-Man in the next Spider-Man film, in theaters in IMAX and 3D on July 28, 2017. The film will be directed by Jon Watts, director of "Cop Car," the upcoming thriller that made its debut earlier this year at the Sundance Film Festival.
Marvel and Sony Pictures, and producers Kevin Feige and Amy Pascal conducted an extensive search for both the actor and the director. The studios and producers were impressed by Holland’s performances in "The Impossible," “Wolf Hall,” and the upcoming "In the Heart of the Sea," and by a series of complex screen tests. Following Marvel’s tradition of working with the brightest next wave of directors, Watts also went through multiple meetings with Feige, Pascal, and the studio, before winning the job.
Commenting on the announcement, Tom Rothman, Sony Pictures Motion Pictures Group Chairman, said, “It’s a big day here at Sony. Kevin, Amy and their teams have done an incredible job. The Marvel process is very thorough, and that’s why their results are so outstanding. I’m confident Spider-Man will be no exception. I’ve worked with a number of up-and-coming directors who have gone on to be superstars and believe that Jon is just such an outstanding talent. For Spidey himself, we saw many terrific young actors, but Tom’s screen tests were special. All in all, we are off to a roaring start.”
Feige commented, “As with James Gunn, Joss Whedon, and the Russo brothers, we love finding new and exciting voices to bring these characters to life. We spent a lot of time with Jon and find his take and work inspiring.”
Pascal added, “Sony, Marvel, Kevin and I all knew that for Peter Parker, we had to find a vibrant, talented young actor capable of embodying one of the most well-known characters in the world. With Tom, we’ve found the perfect actor to bring Spider-Man’s story into the Marvel Cinematic Universe.”
Sony Pictures will finance and release worldwide the next installment of the $4 billion Spider-Man franchise on July 28, 2017, in a film co-produced by Kevin Feige and his expert team at Marvel and Amy Pascal, who oversaw the franchise launch for the studio 13 years ago. Together, they will collaborate on a new creative direction for the Web-Slinger.
Spider-Man, embraced all over the world, is the most successful franchise in the history of Sony Pictures, with the five films having taken in more than $4 billion worldwide.
https://marvel.com/news/movies/24758/sony_pictures_and_marvel_studios_find_their_spider-man_star_and_director
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That kid was born exactly a week before I was, huh
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Makes you question your choices in life, doesn't it? At least things like that have similar effect on me sometimes.
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Good, glad that part's over with.
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Nice. I have no idea who the guy is, but I'm sure he'll be fine.
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Wait, is the series getting a reboot for the third time? Are we going to see Uncle Ben dies again?
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Wait, is the series getting a reboot for the third time? Are we going to see Uncle Ben dies again?
It is getting another reboot, but I don't think we will see Uncle Ben die again.
Marvel head Kevin Feige is not a fan of telling the origin again. He thinks everyone already knows it.
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Wait, is the series getting a reboot for the third time? Are we going to see Uncle Ben dies again?
No, Kevin Feige has gone on record that Uncle Ben is already six feet under and that Peter is currently web-swinging/crime-fighting around in NYC in a homemade Spider-Man costume.
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Early screenings of Ant-Man have started for reporters, and early word is mostly outstanding. Also, it apparently has two post-film scenes (one mid-credits, one post-credits) that are much more significant than most recent Marvel post-film scenes (no spoilers to be given).
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Good to hear.
I'm actually not that excited for Ant-Man, and felt for it pretty much what I did before Guardians of the Galaxy came out. Only in that case I was completely turned around once the trailers dropped. Unfortunately, that hasn't been the case for Ant-Man, and the trailers have just been okay, nothing too exciting. So hearing that it's well recieved helps.
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Finally finished Daredevil.
Holy crap, how awesome was that?
Any Marvel fans that haven't seen it are missing out. One of the best things they have done. Looking forward to seeing Daredevil interact with the Punisher next season.
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Just read an article on Netflix who admits they're having problems translating the powers of Iron Fist onto screen for a new drama series.
Here's the article:
https://www.cinemablend.com/television/Why-Marvel-Having-Trouble-With-Iron-Fist-Netflix-Series-72848.html (https://www.cinemablend.com/television/Why-Marvel-Having-Trouble-With-Iron-Fist-Netflix-Series-72848.html)
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That rumor made the same rounds a month or two ago.
I don't believe it. If they were having that tough a time cracking it, I don't believe they ever would have announced it in the first place.
They were working on Doctor Strange forever and had problems with cracking it for film. For that reason, they took forever to actually announce it and put it on the schedule.
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Finally finished Daredevil.
Holy crap, how awesome was that?
Any Marvel fans that haven't seen it are missing out. One of the best things they have done. Looking forward to seeing Daredevil interact with the Punisher next season.
Started watching this a couple of weeks ago and finally got round to finishing it. That was an amazing series and honestly didn't expect it to be that good. The fights while being the highlight for most, comes second to the depth they gave to all the characters. I absolutely loved kingpin's take, he was my favorite person to watch on the show and honestly I was rooting for him in the end. I can't wait for the next season as well.
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So Marisa Tomei has just been cast as Aunt May in the upcoming MCU Spider-Man films.
No, I'm not making this up. :hat
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So Marisa Tomei has just been cast as Aunt May in the upcoming MCU Spider-Man films.
No, I'm not making this up. :hat
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Finally watched the season 1 finale for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Although it caught a LOT of flak initially by bloggers and critics, I actually liked it from the start. It did get better subsstantially towards the end of the series though, having some of more known movie actors tie in to it towards the end helped a lot. But the finale and the whole build up towarsds it was bad ass, and Bill Paxton is such fun as an evil character! Couldn't help myself and watched about ten minutes of episode 1 of season two and what af F'in' great way to open a second series! Holy crap, that was great.
Also, I love Sky. Who doesn't love Sky? I do. Who new she was part Chinese though? I sure didn't! Lot of catching up to do before season 3 starts!
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Yeah Skye had been the best part of pretty much all of season 2. In the first I thought Ward was the most interesting character, but even though he has continued to be really interesting (even more than before) I still like Skye more.
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There's always a gleam of hope for Ward and then he shreds that apart by always doing something evil and self centered.
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Which I like. I don't want a redemption story for Ward.
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Which I like. I don't want a redemption story for Ward.
Oh I agree, the best characters work in the gray. Real life has so little people who live in a Black or White world.
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Which I like. I don't want a redemption story for Ward.
Same here.
But definitely looking forward to season 3. As well as season 2 of Agent Carter.
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Which I like. I don't want a redemption story for Ward.
Yeah.... I'll be sorely disappointed if they make Ward a hero - even (or especially) if it's during a fatal sacrifice. I swear I'll throw something at the TV if he sacrifices himself for Daisy, and she holds him lovingly and tearfully in her arms as he croaks.
:puke:
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But definitely looking forward to season 3. As well as season 2 of Agent Carter.
Absolutely agree on AoS s03, but not as much Agent Carter. The first season was pretty good, but I don't really feel like its needed.
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Which I like. I don't want a redemption story for Ward.
You know, I pretty much trust whatever the writers want to do with Ward. He's a really fantastic character as is, though, and I doubt that he has a redemption story coming anytime soon.
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Good Ant-Man reviews continue to roll in.
Really looking forward to this one.
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I've heard a lot of people say it's the best stand-alone movie since the first Iron Man, and honestly I'm not surprised about this one being a hit. I've been excited about it since Paul Rudd was announced as the lead, and I have a feeling this will be a really fun time at the movies.
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I want to see it in the drive in. I'm hoping opening weekend.
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I hope they don't fall into the trap of Daredevil with other shows. Just because DD works so well being grounded in reality (would work great for Punisher too), doesn't mean that it should be translated to other characters/shows.
As for Marisa Tomei... I wouldn't mind the show being about her struggles raising an extra troubled teen who just happens to have superpowers :).
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I always thought she was helping two yoots.
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I always thought she was helping two yoots.
:clap:
Obvious joke is obvious. But still. :clap:
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Which I like. I don't want a redemption story for Ward.
Well, same here, but possibly for different reasons. I like a good redemption story when it's convincing, but in Ward's case he's too far gone in my opinion. I also like the greyness of characters, but I'm not sure there's all that much grey in Ward - he's pretty much a self-centred dick. :lol So I don't think any redemption story would work, basically.
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I was never a fan of Deadpool (my older brother was) although I always appreciated the character for what he was, but I'm really excited for the movie. Saw the leaked Comic Con 2015 footage, and it looks to be a blast.
Technically this isn't Marvel TV/movie Universe related, but the character is Marvel.
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I was never a fan of Deadpool (my older brother was) although I always appreciated the character for what he was, but I'm really excited for the movie. Saw the leaked Comic Con 2015 footage, and it looks to be a blast.
Technically this isn't Marvel TV/movie Universe related, but the character is Marvel.
You're right, it's not part of Marvel Studio's MCU, because Fox owns the rights to the Deadpool movie franchise. Deadpool is jingls.son's favorite, so it'll be real interesting to take him to an R (or a "hard R" as Ryan Reynolds has been stating) movie when he's only 15.
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Going to a screening of Ant Man tonight in Hollywood. So stoked!
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Ant Man was fantastic! Definitely a huge breath of fresh air after the rather stale Avengers film imo.
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Ant Man had the perfect mix of comedy and heart. Great storyline and people you pull for.
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yeah, jingle.son and I both loved it immensely. And the mid/post-credits scenes!!!! Boo-yah.
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NO REDEMPTION FOR WARD! HYDRA SCUM! :corn
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Ant-Man was awesome, loved the Avengers tie-ins, and lots of Easter Eggs for die-hard comics fans!
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Ant-Man was awesome, loved the Avengers tie-ins, and lots of Easter Eggs for die-hard comics fans!
Tales to Astonish!
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Ant-Man was awesome, loved the Avengers tie-ins, and lots of Easter Eggs for die-hard comics fans!
Tales to Astonish!
Yes!
The Milgrom Hotel!
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I enjoyed Ant Man, but I don't love it like everyone else here. It was at least miles better than Age of Ultron. I suspect we'll see Hank Pym's Ant Man in Agent Carter soon, which would be exciting!
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I suspect we'll see Hank Pym's Ant Man in Agent Carter soon, which would be exciting!
Interesting thought, but I'm not sure it would work. Since Douglas is Pym in Ant Man, even if we stretch his age a bit, he could not have created the Ant Man suit until the late '50s at the earliest. That doesn't really jibe with the Agent Carter timeline.
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I agree, Pym won't appear in Agent Carter.
But I would LOVE to see a story set in the 60's/70's featuring Pym, Fury, and Pearce.
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I agree, Pym won't appear in Agent Carter.
But I would LOVE to see a story set in the 60's/70's featuring Pym, Fury, and Pearce.
Guy Pearce? lol
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I agree, Pym won't appear in Agent Carter.
But I would LOVE to see a story set in the 60's/70's featuring Pym, Fury, and Pearce.
Guy Pearce? lol
No, Canadian.
Alexander Pierce. Robert Redford's character from The Winter Soldier.
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Well, shoot. I misread and assumed you meant Stephen Pearcy. I was looking forward to seeing him in the '70s as a way cool junior. My bad.
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I agree, Pym won't appear in Agent Carter.
But I would LOVE to see a story set in the 60's/70's featuring Pym, Fury, and Pearce.
Guy Pearce? lol
No, Canadian.
Alexander Pierce. Robert Redford's character from The Winter Soldier.
Sarcasm: It flies right over your head.
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That would be fun!
Michael B Jordan for younger Nick Fury, right :-P
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Saw Ant-Man, liked it a lot
I don't know why, but the quantum realm part disturbed the hell out of me. Like, it made me feel sick to my stomach
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Saw Ant-Man, liked it a lot
I don't know why, but the quantum realm part disturbed the hell out of me. Like, it made me feel sick to my stomach
It was pretty freaky.
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Just saw Ant-Man. It was okay, but I wouldn't say I liked it overall. A bit too many comedic moments just fell completely flat for me. And the villain was just a ridiculous character.
The quantum shrink bit was probably the best scene in the movie, even though it by the movie's own clearly stated rules makes no sense.
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Saw Ant-Man last night, it was really good. If we're just talking the Marvel movies of the MCU, this was probably the best since Avengers for me. Even beating out Winter Soldier and Guardians, both movies I enjoyed a lot. Ant-Man just felt really fresh and unique, and it's interesting how the movie with the most ridiculous concept on paper turned out to be one of the better movies. They knew how to tell this story perfectly, and the "fun" elements of the movie really added to it. The fight scenes were really great.
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I've heard a lot of people say it's one of the best ones so far, but I just don't understand that. I thought it was one of their worst so far. Too much comedy that didn't work, the three friends got a bit much at times, but even Paul Rudd failed a bit too much. That scene when Pym tells his daughter what happened to the mother and Rudd breaks in at the end was just painfully unfunny. The villain was super silly and really cliche. It was obvious that this was going to be a bad villain from the beginning when he shrunk that random business guy. So lame. Some real cheap ex-machina moments towards the end with the whole quantum realm thing.
Some comedy did work though, which was good. And fights were funny, but overall this movie doesn't compare to most of the other MCU stuff.
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Except that's what they were going for. You seem to be in the minority. I've seen very little complaints about the movie but hey, to each his or her own.
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BlackInk, you are clearly in the minority. Sorry you didn't like it, but there was ZERO comedy that didn't work in this film. It was all well-timed and fantastic.
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I loved that this movie was more scaled down and restrained, and coming out of Age of Ultron which was all about saving the world, it was amazing to have a smaller movie where the main climax/end fight took place in a child's bedroom with a toy train being in the focus. The comedic points were spot on for me, and most of the audience laughed out loud during many parts. Michael Peña probably stole the show in that sense, and he was truly great. I've been a big fan of Paul Rudd ever since he was on Friends (all those years ago) and I'm happy that he finally got a big main role in a movie. He's just one of those actors who is always likable. I also liked how Evangeline Lilly portrayed Hope, and you could clearly tell everything wasn't great between her and her father, and there were some nice conflicts she was dealing with. There was definitely more to her portrayal than the classical "I hate my dad... and now I've grown to love him" which seems to happen in some movies.
Corey Stoll is another guy I'm a big fan of, and while his character wasn't THAT fleshed out, Marvel in general has a problem with their villains. I would say Yellowjacket was still more interesting to me than most of the stand-alone villains. Michael Douglas is always great, and I liked the intro part with seeing him as a younger Hank Pym.
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Agreed on Stoll. I liked his villainy as Darren Cross, but couldn't buy that he was as badass as he was as Yellowjacket - same problem with Obadiah/Iron Monger - how do either of them all of a sudden know how to work their suits with such ease? That concept didn't work for me. Marvel is hit and miss with it's villains for sure - Red Skull, Winter Soldier, and Loki are excellent, Malekith and Ultron were very good, the rest fall somewhere between mediocre and awful.
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Darren Cross was explained as being affected by the suit and it just made him a little insane. I can buy that.
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The Marvel Cinematic Universe
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Darren Cross was explained as being affected by the suit and it just made him a little insane. I can buy that.
I didn't get that it was the suit, but exposure to the formula. Also, how did just getting in the suit all of a sudden make him a kick-ass fighter?
Things I can easily overlook, but reasons that he wasn't a top-notch villain in my books.
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Darren Cross was explained as being affected by the suit and it just made him a little insane. I can buy that.
I didn't get that it was the suit, but exposure to the formula. Also, how did just getting in the suit all of a sudden make him a kick-ass fighter?
Things I can easily overlook, but reasons that he wasn't a top-notch villain in my books.
I don't think he was a top notch villain at all. Hell, Ant Man was new to it as well. Facing Iron Man or Thor he would had it coming to him.
Yeah the formula. Sorry, that's right.
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Darren Cross was explained as being affected by the suit and it just made him a little insane. I can buy that.
I didn't get that it was the suit, but exposure to the formula. Also, how did just getting in the suit all of a sudden make him a kick-ass fighter?
Things I can easily overlook, but reasons that he wasn't a top-notch villain in my books.
I don't think he came across as a kick-ass fighter. His suit had weapons on it, while Ant-Man's didn't. Also, he designed the suit, so he would have been intimately knowledgeable with it's weaponry.
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Darren Cross was explained as being affected by the suit and it just made him a little insane. I can buy that.
I didn't get that it was the suit, but exposure to the formula. Also, how did just getting in the suit all of a sudden make him a kick-ass fighter?
Things I can easily overlook, but reasons that he wasn't a top-notch villain in my books.
I don't think he came across as a kick-ass fighter. His suit had weapons on it, while Ant-Man's didn't. Also, he designed the suit, so he would have been intimately knowledgeable with it's weaponry.
I see your point, but I still think you're full of shit. Really... stop countering my argument with ration and logic. It doesn't work with your wife (happy anniv btw), so it won't work with me.
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OK, you're right. :tup
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Finished season 2 of Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Great ride it was! Kyle McLaughlan dit a fantastic job as Skye's dad. Some of the plotlines were a bit iffy, but no biggy.
Really enjoyed the 'Melissa' episode, Ming Na Wen really shines in that one. Really looking forward to the third series. Damn, getting to be quite the season, with this, Daredevil, Peggy Carter, Jennifer Jones, beye-beye, sleep!
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Forgot Arrow, Broen (the Bridge) and upcoming Black Sails season 3.
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Ant-man was pretty cool. I'd put it with Gardians of the Galaxy as entertaining, but not OMG amazing. Michael Douglas' young CGI face sure was distracting though.
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Deadpool just released a trailer to his trailer :lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPZHBjyUGhQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPZHBjyUGhQ)
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Deadpool just released a trailer to his trailer :lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPZHBjyUGhQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPZHBjyUGhQ)
Funny, but not really relevant to this thread, as Deadpool isn't part of Marvel's Movie/TV Universe.
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It's not Marvel Studios. I didn't think this was dedicated to Marvel Studios.
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Deadpool trailer(s):
For all audiences - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONHBaC-pfsk
Red band - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyKWUTwSYAs
Damn this is gonna be good.
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Hell fucking yeeessssss! No punches pulled, good dumb fun, crazy action. This is Deadpool. The one we deserve. FINALLY.
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It's not Marvel Studios. I didn't think this was dedicated to Marvel Studios.
I thought it was pretty clear. The name of the thread is "Marvel's Movie/TV Universe". Which refers to the connected universe of film and TV properties produced by Marvel Studios. The Fantastic Four and X-Men films are not part of that universe.
They are definitely films about Marvel comics characters, no doubt about that.
Never mind. Whatever.
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Fair enough. Since we don't have a "Fox's Marvel Movies" thread, I don't see the harm.
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I don't see the harm in starting that thread, either.
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Just chiming in late to the party that my wife laughed really loud in the cinema because of Hank Pym's tank. :lol
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Which is another moment when the movie just ignores its own rules. They explain twice that the shrink tech doesn't shrink the atoms themselves and wouldn't diminish mass, it just lessens the distance between the atoms.
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Which is another moment when the movie just ignores its own rules. They explain twice that the shrink tech doesn't shrink the atoms themselves and wouldn't diminish mass, it just lessens the distance between the atoms.
What are you saying? Hank couldn't be carrying around a tank in his pocket all these years?
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Which is another moment when the movie just ignores its own rules. They explain twice that the shrink tech doesn't shrink the atoms themselves and wouldn't diminish mass, it just lessens the distance between the atoms.
What are you saying? Hank couldn't be carrying around a tank in his pocket all these years?
Yeah. He's saying that the mass of the tank would remain the same, which would presumably mean that the weight would also remain the same.
Which, if true, would mean that Ant-Man couldn't actually ride an ant.
Someone may not have had their thinking cap on when they wrote that explanation.
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Which is another moment when the movie just ignores its own rules. They explain twice that the shrink tech doesn't shrink the atoms themselves and wouldn't diminish mass, it just lessens the distance between the atoms.
What are you saying? Hank couldn't be carrying around a tank in his pocket all these years?
Yeah. He's saying that the mass of the tank would remain the same, which would presumably mean that the weight would also remain the same.
Which, if true, would mean that Ant-Man couldn't actually ride an ant.
Someone may not have had their thinking cap on when they wrote that explanation.
Maybe it's the SUIT that keeps the mass the same? That would alleviate the explanation of the tank, but you're right... that would be one super-strength ant!
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Also, at the end he shrinks to waaaay smaller than an atom, which wouldn't be possible since the tech doesn't even shrink the atoms themselves.
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Also, at the end he shrinks to waaaay smaller than an atom, which wouldn't be possible since the tech doesn't even shrink the atoms themselves.
Yeah, in reality he'd probably just end up dying
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It sounds like they just dorked the explanation.
They should have hired one of the old Star Trek:TNG writers to come up with a better one.
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It would honetly have been better to just not give an explanation at all. That way I would have just gone "oh okay cool shrink tech". It would have been goofy (which it still is) but I can accept that from MCU.
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It would honetly have been better to just not give an explanation at all. That way I would have just gone "oh okay cool shrink tech". It would have been goofy (which it still is) but I can accept that from MCU.
Yeah, that would have been better than what's in there.
Oh well. Finally a flub from Marvel. I'm still OK with it.
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‘Doctor Strange’ Eyes ‘Hannibal’ Star Mads Mikkelsen to Play Villain (https://variety.com/2015/film/news/doctor-strange-mads-mikkelsen-1201549501/)
Interesting. Definitely an outstanding actor.
Dormammu? Possibly even Mephisto?
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He does play such a great, disturbing bad guy.
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Well, finally saw Avengers, age of Ultron. I liked it, understand there´s some grumbling going on about the whole Black Widow/Hulk thing going on.... I can see how it sticks out like a sore thumb. Overall though, nice enough movie.
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One thing I loved is how they portrayed Vision. He was EXACTLY like I remembered him from the comics! Perfectly done, imo.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywZE-NEJ2Ik&feature=youtu.be
First teaser for Jessica Jones. No actual footage but we now have a release date: November 20th
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Yeah, I´m a total stranger to that comic, but I have a feeling that gave us nothing.
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I'm also a complete stranger to this character. I'm a fan of the MCU though, so I'll probably catch the first episode and see if it grabs me or gets me interested at all.
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Daredevil was fantastic so I'm excited about this.
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Finally saw Ant Man. I had a lot of fun, and I liked the Avengers tie-in. The more MCU movies I see, the more I want to play catch up and look for nuggetz...
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Daredevil was fantastic so I'm excited about this.
This. The character debuted after my main comics-reading time (as did the current version of the Guardians of the Galaxy).
But I trust Marvel until they give me reason not to do so, which they haven't yet. Plus, David Tennant.
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So, next week Agents of SHIELD starts back up. W00t!
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So, next week Agents of SHIELD starts back up. W00t!
I'm knee deep in all the returning shows. Can't wait for this one!
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Just saw Ultron last night. Awesome! The humor in it is fantastic and there were a few truly laugh out loud moments for me, especially during the beginning. I really liked some of the action scenes and some were goosebump worthy "GO TO SLEEP, GO TO SLEEP, GO TO SLEEP!". However...the format is wearing on me. "Big bad guy controls army and the Avengers have to team up to stop them". You could easily superimpose the Chitauri (I'm not gonna look up how to spell that shit...the army in the first movie is who I'm referring to) for the army of Ultrons and it wouldn't make a difference. I wasn't bored, but I will be next movie if it's the same format as the first two, which were...nearly identical in the way things played out and the way that it was handled. Don't get me wrong, I really liked the movie, but it was almost cringe-worthy how similar the circumstances were, disregarding minute details of the who/what/where/why. It was just a little to familiar for me at times. Barring that they keep this same format, I'm really looking forward to the future movies and how they set things up. Also: Vision is best.
Oh and I really disliked the Maximoff twins. Horribly portrayed characters with zero development (granted, I wasn't expecting much but even so) and X-Men: DOFP's Quicksilver was ten fold more interesting. DOSE ACCENTS DOE! :lol Very small complain considering they weren't a huge aspect of the movie but boy were they boring. They could've been left out of the movie and I wouldn't have noticed.
Now, someone who took me by surprise was Hawkeye. I really, really liked him in this movie, especially when he completely one-upped Scarlett Witch saying he wasn't going to be taken over again. That was awesome. It's great how the movie was self-aware that he is more or less an ant (lawlz) compared to the 'gods', but was still useful in his own way, however small. An aspect of the movie that I thought people blew way the fuck out of proportion was the Hulk/Black Widow relationship. Yeah, it was a bit annoying at times with how much focus they gave to it, but holy shit...with the way people were reacting to it, I half expected to see Hulk throbbing green dick smacking the face of Black Widow. I suppose it's just another indication of how much people looooove to exaggerate and make mountains of mole hills. Now at this moment I am absolutely not going to look for Hulk/Widow porn. I'm not.
I'M.
NOT.
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Me thinks thou dost protest too much. ;) :angel:
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:P :angel: :metal
Oh and I totally loved the mid-credits scene. The first few times the whole mid/post-credit sequences occurred, it was great; it was surprising and set something else up...but then it became a fad and I got tired of it really quick. This one was perfect: It set up some excitement for the next entry, and it was quick yet totally badass. Brolin rules as Thanos' voice and seeing the Infinity Gauntlet in all its glory was awesome. Really enjoyed it and I'm glad there wasn't a post-credit mainly for the fact that I feel it'd be there just to appease this new addiction to having one just to have one.
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Yep. Can't wait to see Brolin fully unleashed, although I guess it won't be for at least a few more films.
Definitely in Infinity War I & II. But I remember a rumor about Thanos being a player in the events of Thor: Ragnarok. Hopefully so.
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Nice! I didn't know that part. I didn't expect to see him in any capacity till the Infinity War movies. (Christ, that is an awesome name)
Even if it's just mentions of the big bad himself, it'd be cool to have his presence felt in some capacity. Because it'll be quite some time (real world) before we get to see him, so the impact might not be as heavily felt if he's not mentioned at all.
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Nice! I didn't know that part. I didn't expect to see him in any capacity till the Infinity War movies. (Christ, that is an awesome name)
Even if it's just mentions of the big bad himself, it'd be cool to have his presence felt in some capacity. Because it'll be quite some time (real world) before we get to see him, so the impact might not be as heavily felt if he's not mentioned at all.
Well, also, I'd be shocked if he doesn't at least put in an appearance in the second Guardians of the Galaxy film.
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So when does Agents come back? I really haven't been keeping up with much news of it this time around.
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So when does Agents come back? I really haven't been keeping up with much news of it this time around.
This Tuesday.
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Thank you.
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Well, Agents of SHIELD season 3 seems to be off to a rip-roaring start.
Thoughts?
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Well, Agents of SHIELD season 3 seems to be off to a rip-roaring start.
Thoughts?
It's on the DVR. Won't be able to watch until Friday.
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I thought it was great!
Skye (or I suppose it's Daisy permanently now) is awesome as always, and so was Fitz. Those are my two favorite characters and they sure delivered. Especially Fitz. The scene with him in Morocco was really cool, and those final scenes with him and Coulson and then later with the monolith were great.
The weird blue guy looked a bit wonky, but it's still interesting.
My only "problem" (that I can think of right now) with the episode is the very last scene. And I say "problem" because it's not quite a proper problem. I like what was shown, just not that it was shown at all. I think showing Simmons in the premiere was too soon. I mean, she technically only disappeared in the previous episode.
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I loved Fitz. He may be my new favorite character.
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Yeah, it was great. I'm drawing a blank though... How did Fitz get his wits about him?
And who's the blue bounty hunter?
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Yeah, it was great. I'm drawing a blank though... How did Fitz get his wits about him?
Mac helped to push him and he slowly got better over all of season 2.
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And who's the blue bounty hunter?
A completely new character, apparently an Inhuman named Lash, but that's all I really know. I assume we will learn more as the team does.
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Yeah, it was great. I'm drawing a blank though... How did Fitz get his wits about him?
Mac helped to push him and he slowly got better over all of season 2.
Yeah, I remember that storyline, but it just seemed like all of a sudden... everything is a-ok in the opener. Loving how this is evolving to be more than just a spy-agency show, and truly a Marvel 'super-human' show.
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Wow what a great start of a new season. The whole opening sequence with the extraction of the new inhuman, fantastic.
Also, love the loose banter between the characters, 'damn, Daisy, that'll take a while to get used to, or is it just me?'
....'no...it's just you.'
Also, love the scenes with Fitz. He's turning out to be quite a bad ass. :metal
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Picked up the Age of Ultron Blu-ray. Interestingly, I enjoyed it more on this viewing.
The same thing happened with my recent re-watch of Thor: The Dark World.
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Picked up the Age of Ultron Blu-ray. Interestingly, I enjoyed it more on this viewing.
The same thing happened with my recent re-watch of Thor: The Dark World.
jingle.son went to Wal-mart on his spare, and just texted me that he wanted to get it.
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Just watched Age of Ultron for the first time. While I enjoy the movies at some point they have to end. Is the upcoming Infinity Wars going to be the end of this part of the story? I didn't read the comics so I'm not sure what happens next, but it seems like most everything in the Cinematic Universe revolves around the infinity stones. What happens when that plot line is finished?
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Just watched Age of Ultron for the first time. While I enjoy the movies at some point they have to end. Is the upcoming Infinity Wars going to be the end of this part of the story? I didn't read the comics so I'm not sure what happens next, but it seems like most everything in the Cinematic Universe revolves around the infinity stones. What happens when that plot line is finished?
They'll keep making movies. That is 100% certain.
I'm right there with you though. I enjoy them as well, but they can't keep doing this. I feel that it'll just kill the MCU, or possibly even the genre. Infinity War should be the end. They had a great run, and I would want them to end it with dignity. But there'll be more.
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When has the movie business done anything "with dignity"? It's all about the great and mighty dollar.
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While I enjoy the movies at some point they have to end.
Why?
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They will die eventually. If it's in 5 years or 20 years, we don't know, but eventually the interest is gonna go away, people aren't gonna be AS excited and those movies cost a lot to make. It's great to put in 200 million dollars if you know you will earn over 600, but eventually that number will decrease.
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It's sad that that's what it will take for them to decide to conclude the story, and not because they feel it's right. But like king said:
When has the movie business done anything "with dignity"? It's all about the great and mighty dollar.
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I watched Ultron for the first time this weekend and after it was done thought it was an average sort of movie of the entire bunch however the more I think about it, the more things I liked about it and am quite excited about the infinity wars. I'm going to rewatch it with Joss Whedon's commentary next time.
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I couldn't possibly disagree more on the topic of superhero movies eventually stopping, even just among the MCU. The amount of time between films will increase, they're on a bit of a rush right now. But they're never going to end or die. The vampire and zombie genres, in terms of film/television, have been going on a lot longer than the superhero film genre (and up until this past decade or so were more popular) and are still somehow going extremely strong (the vampire genre died down a bit but I don't need to tell anyone how strong the zombie genre still is), even if the main contenders are on television (hell, I don't think I need to remind anyone of the Twilight spree). That's not even touching upon the vast reach of the superhero genre itself in terms of the massive demographic. Kids are never going to get tired of superheroes, ever. If anyone thinks that...you've either never met a kid or don't understand them. People are always going to fuck, there's always going to be kids, and kids are always going to love superheroes (the majority, at least). They're not going to stop. I'm inclined to even think they won't dip all that much in the amount of time between 'sagas'. The Infinity Wars will be the end of one, but I'll betcha dollars to doughnuts, not too long after the end of those films they'll announce a new regime, a new set of heroes, foes, actors, directors and a new saga.
Will it wax and wane in popularity? Absolutely. Every genre of every media does, but it's not going to stop. For adults and the fans of the genre, the reasoning behind it might not be so worthy; but they're going to still make money no matter what, even if its not quite as much (which I'd still argue against...despite the few that bitch and moan about Ultron...both Avengers are still in the top 5 (well, Ultron is 6 last I checked) highest grossing movies of all time). Not to mention there are dozens upon dozens of storylines to be told still. It's simply the way in which the MCU is set up right now, it's leading to an ultimate showdown; which to the everyday moviegoer and those ignorant of the immense, vast comic universe, might seem like an ultimatum of sorts, but there are so many more stories out there to be milked that it's truly endless (fuckin' A, just the slew of movies they have right now, and even the team of Avengers itself... is completely inferior to the comics in terms of character arcs they've touched upon, the stories they've told, and even just the amount of heroes on the team...that last bit is hugely important to keeping the genre milked and they're already talking about an entire team change up before we've even reached the climax). There is zero reasoning behind the idea that it has to stop or go away. New foes will come out of the woodwork, new heroes will be born and unveiled (to the cineverse), and the storylines will begin anew. To even think they'd stop is preposterous. I'd love for them to take a break, but y'know, even that idea I think is a long shot.
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I didn't intend to imply I think they should stop making super hero movies. The MCU has been really good in terms of quality and story. The question I was trying to ask is where do they go once the infinity wars are over? Do they reboot some of the characters? Bring new characters in (which it sounds like they're going to do in phase 3)? What story arc comes next in the comics? As long as the quality is there I hope they keep making them.
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By and large, I agree completely with Tio. There's almost 10,000 characters for them to draw from, and hundreds of storylines. Saying that this genre of movies will 'end' is like saying comic books will end. Comic books nearly did end, but they came back. The genre will have it's ups and downs, but I believe the Movie/TV universe will thrive for quite some time.
Never say never ... no one knows what the future holds.
I vote for Secret Wars after the Infinity War. Beyonder, FTW! If not that, the Squadron Sinister/Supreme.
Kaos... there is no 'one' story arc in the comics - all the major players/factions have multiple different, and often independent, arcs that have been developed over the decades.
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I think the Squadron Supreme/Sinister would be a hoot, especially since they were basically Marvel's version of the Justice League.
Especially since those DC characters are on their way to the silver screen now.
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Like Jingle said, there is literally anywhere they could go after this. They set it up brilliantly so that even if The Avengers were to disband, an entirely new team could be created or they could focus on a new group that isn't The Avengers at all. I have no clue what saga they'll do after this because there really are just that many. But my money is on that they'll have a similar format in which they'll focus on single-character stories for a while, setting up a new team, and eventually do another team-up film. Honestly though, I personally hope for a change in format and in pattern; after these last few films, I'm really going to tire of this same old 'team-up to fight the big bad who has an army of weaker pawns but are too numerous to handle without a team'. Even in Ultron that kind of set up was way too familiar for me, but I really enjoyed the backdrop and LOVED Spader's Ultron and the parallels to Vision, who was also awesome; so it kept me going, but by the latter-half of the movie I knew exactly how it would end up and how it was all going to go down.
I'd love some kind of change in the format and that's all I'm really hoping for right now. There are so many storylines that it'd be like picking out a needle in a haystack the size of Earth. That sounds like an exaggeration but with this huge saga they've done, all these movies, all these years...this equates to about a mere few compilations of comic books. That's how vast the comic-verse is. I've got two graphic novels sitting beside me, both Avengers related, and both of them have more content than what the two movies did. I'm not saying that they need to have the same amount of content or anything like that, they'd have tens of movies that are 4 hours long each by now if they tried to do that. But my point is that they really can go anywhere. If they're smart about it and take just a little bit more time with exploring the lore of the each characters universe, they could have something truly special and make it fresh and new while still keeping in line with their current format; but the way in which they explore and expose each character could do wonders for making it fresh.
Also hellz yes to Supreme/Sinister. I'd love that.
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I think the Squadron Supreme/Sinister would be a hoot, especially since they were basically Marvel's version of the Justice League.
Especially since those DC characters are on their way to the silver screen now.
Eggs-actly.
As much as I'd love Secret Wars, it'd be too familiar to the existing franchise, but not quite the same as the comics since they don't have all the necessary rights to all the characters in the comic version (which is why I'm intrigued with what they're going to do with Civil War).
However, Squadron Supreme/Sinister would be a huge poke in the eye... 'Anything you can do, I can do WAY better' to DC/Warner.
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I would absolutely LOL
But I doubt we see that.
*keeps fingers crossed*
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Wow, really enjoyed last night's episode of Agents of SHIELD.
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Yeah, the episode was great! Even better than last week I would say. The last few scenes with the monolith were really good, and had some surprises as well. I did not expect Fitz to succeed in bringing Simmons back, not in this episode. I also actually believed for a second that the monolith was destroyed before even Fitz made it back, trapping them both on the other side.
I still believe the whole thing with Simmons was handled a bit too quickly. I mean, the season has only just begun and she's already back. But then again, it was all handled really well, so I don't mind.
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Daredevil Season 2 promo art! W00t!
DD vs. the Punisher, anyone?
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Saw that earlier, it looks pretty awesome. Love the style.
I'm ready for the showdown. I'm glad they got John Bernthal for The Punisher, I think he'll do a great job.
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Awesome SHIELD episode! Ward's back in full fore, and I loved the banter between May and her dad!
They're off to a flying start this season!
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Ant-Man sequel Ant-Man And The Wasp announced for 2018 release, Black Panther and Captain Marvel dates shuffled around, dates for first three Phase 4 films planted (https://marvel.com/news/movies/25244/marvel_studios_phase_3_update)
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I'm okay with an Ant-Man sequel even though I didn't like the first one, but did phase 3 really need more movies?
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I'm okay with an Ant-Man sequel even though I didn't like the first one, but did phase 3 really need more movies?
Only one more - the Ant-Man sequel. If they didn't shoehorn it into Phase 3, they would miss the window for it. It had to be in Phase 3.
The other three unnamed release dates will be for Phase 4.
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Cool stuff. I'm liking the title for the next Ant Man, it gives off a more retro feel to me for some reason; it's also always nice to shut those feminists up. (I kid!) :P But really, it's cool to see a heroin in the title for once and I hope she is a well developed character and a cool hero that adds to the action rather than just a figurehead. Other than that...excited to hear what the new titles are and what is in store for the next saga.
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Was at New York comic con today and got to watch the upcoming episode of agents of shield, good stuff as expected!
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Looking forward to all things Marvel.... hopefully Civil War trailer will drop soon. AoS was excellent - I like the idea of Hydra infiltrating once again. Netflix is gonna do great things with the B-list characters - I always was a huge Punisher fan, so I'm extra excited for DD.
Is Luke Cage supposed to make an appearance or play a big role in the JJ series?
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Is Luke Cage supposed to make an appearance or play a big role in the JJ series?
Yes.
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Solid episode of AoS last night, not as good as the previous two, but solid.
It'll be very interesting to learn about what was going on with Simmons beyond the portal.
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Haven't caught the new episode yet, but I did read a rumor this morning that Marvel is getting back the film rights to the Fantastic Four and (more importantly) other characters associated with that franchise, such as Galactus, the Silver Surfer, and Doctor Doom, in exchange for partnering with Fox on an X-Men related TV show called Hellfire (about the Hellfire Club) that they are producing (Fox has the film rights for X-Men, but all TV rights still reside with Marvel, so Fox couldn't just make an X-Men show without Marvel being involved).
Just a rumor, but I hope it's true.
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Haven't caught the new episode yet, but I did read a rumor this morning that Marvel is getting back the film rights to the Fantastic Four and (more importantly) other characters associated with that franchise, such as Galactus, the Silver Surfer, and Doctor Doom, in exchange for partnering with Fox on an X-Men related TV show called Hellfire (about the Hellfire Club) that they are producing (Fox has the film rights for X-Men, but all TV rights still reside with Marvel, so Fox couldn't just make an X-Men show without Marvel being involved).
Just a rumor, but I hope it's true.
That would be amazing.
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...and the rumor has apparently been denied by both Fox and Marvel.
Too bad.
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Another great episode of AoS. I love where this is going.
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....and apparently Mark Ruffalo will be in Thor: Ragnarok.
Excellent.
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....and apparently Mark Ruffalo will be in Thor: Ragnarok.
Excellent.
I'd heard the rumour that Hulk would be in it.
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I wasn't overly excited about Thor 3, but if Hulk does indeed appear, then I'm a bit more hyped.
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Infinity Gauntlet Bank (https://www.thinkgeek.com/product/inpp/)
Does not allow you to control the universe
lol
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I have loved The Avengers movies so much, I decided to explore a bit more. So last night, I watched Guardians of the Galaxy on On Demand and that tipped the scales that I had to go back and explore the entire MCU.
So I went to my local department store looking for The Incredible Hulk (technically the first film). They didn't have it, but then I noticed that Thor was on sale... and LOOK! So is Thor 2!!! And so is GotG!!! And there's all three Iron Man films for $30!!! And....wha wha WHHAAATT?? CA2 on BluRay for TEN BUCKS???
When I was done, I had all the MCU movies except TIH and CA1. Coming so close, and missing two movies was too much to take. So I took the half hour drive to the nearest Fry's Electronics to pick up the final two pieces of the puzzle. Two hours and 1 1/2 C-notes later, I am the proud owner of all the MCU movies on BluRay. I am ready to go on a marathon and watch them all in order. I start with Iron Man tonight. This is one of the few I've seen, but I haven't seen it since it was first released on home video 5 or 6 years ago, so it will be mostly like seeing it for the first time.
This is going to be fun!! ;D :angel:
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Damn son! Noice! I really enjoyed GOTG and need to watch it again soon.
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I usually watch them in chronological order instead of order of release. It makes it all a more consistant watch, instead of jumping back and forth in the timeline.
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Wow Dude, that´s what I call dedication! Awesome! :hefdaddy
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Cool. I've got them all as well. I usually don't go very long without watching a Marvel film.
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Dude ever heard of Amazon. ;)
I did the same thing last year except I bought the vast majority off of Ebay. Got everything but Civil war and GOTG as they weren't out yet for $80.
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Dude ever heard of Amazon. ;)
I did the same thing last year except I bought the vast majority off of Ebay. Got everything but Civil war and GOTG as they weren't out yet for $80.
When I came home with all but two movies, my wife offered to get them on Amazon. I guess people raised with online shopping just don't get it. There can be a "treasure hunt" aspect to brick and mortar shopping. Online shopping will also forever lack the instant gratification of seeing and touching the product, and buying it right away. But I understand that I'm a dying breed. :blush
I watched The Incredible Hulk with the family last night. A few plot holes, but definitely a fun movie. I will say that I think Edward Norton is a better actor than Mark Ruffalo, even if the movie itself wasn't as good as The Avenger movies. Sounds like Norton (and the director) both wanted to do some different things, but were shut down by Marvel. I would be curious as to what their ideas were for the movie. I thought that doing the origin during the opening credits instead of telling us the story was an odd move. I LOVED the Tony Stark appearance at the end.
Iron Man 2 next.
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I liked the Hulk. I too am very curious to see what Norton's vision was. And while I agree that Norton is a better actor in general, I think Ruffalo was better fit for the Avengers.
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When I came home with all but two movies, my wife offered to get them on Amazon. I guess people raised with online shopping just don't get it. There can be a "treasure hunt" aspect to brick and mortar shopping. Online shopping will also forever lack the instant gratification of seeing and touching the product, and buying it right away. But I understand that I'm a dying breed. :blush
I can definitely relate to this. While I do a lot of online shopping (it's easy and fast, you always get what you want), it always comes with having to plan for something ahead. If you order a movie you really want, or a CD you really want, you might need to wait a week, or even two weeks if it's sent internationally. Going out and actually buying it means you have it right away and can "get to business" right away. It's really satisfying. I never tend to remember how I got the albums that I ordered online, because there's no interesting stories to it. But the ones I accidentally stumbled upon and wasn't expecting at a random record store, those purchases have more special meaning to them. :)
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I think Norton would have been amazing in The Avengers. I like Ruffalo, a lot, but I'd rather have Norton.
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I think Norton is the better actor but Ruffalo is the better Banner/Hulk.
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I think Norton is the better actor but Ruffalo is the better Banner/Hulk.
This. I can't even really imagine Norton in the Avengers. The personality of the character is completely different from in the Hulk movie.
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I think Norton is the better actor but Ruffalo is the better Banner/Hulk.
This. I can't even really imagine Norton in the Avengers. The personality of the character is completely different from in the Hulk movie.
I agree.
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Iron Man 2 is down and Thor is next.
I've loving the little nods along the way. It's funny how I inquired awhile back about if there were a lot of "easter eggs" and tie ins with all the movies, and a few people said there were none. I'm seeing ALL KINDS of little winks to the other films. I'm having a blast seeing it from the beginning!! :metal
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I love the action in Iron Man 2, but there were too many easter eggs/setup for future films. It almost seemed like that became the purpose of the film, and was detrimental to the final product, making it near the bottom of the list.
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Jessica Jones trailer. That´s how you make a trailer!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWHUjuJ8zxE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWHUjuJ8zxE)
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Yep. I thought it was great.
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It looks like it might be just as good as Daredevil. Even though I couldn't care less about Agents of SHIELD or Agent Carter, when Marvel is doing a tv-show focused on a hero, it turns out really well, like in the case of Daredevil, and looks to be with Jessica Jones. Really hyped for that show!
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Yeah if this is anywhere close in quality to Daredevil it's gonna be a really good show!
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I've never heard of Jessica Jones before, but saw the trailer and some teasers some time ago and this looks really good. Like others have said, if this is anywhere close to Daredevil in terms of quality, it's going to be great.
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Nor have I. I have no idea what to expect and in that regard I'm excited thanks to the quality of what it looks to be. So I'll definitely check it out, I'm just not too sure how 'superhero' invested it'll be. Daredevil, while pretty damn grounded, was still awesome due to the superhero factor, this looks to be even more grounded than that, and I've no idea who JJ is so...should be fun for me to explore it.
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She actually has powers, as does her adversary (played by David Tennant), so it should be a slightly different feel from Daredevil, although still in that gritty setting.
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I'm aware of her powers but it looks like they have made her more grounded than I recall from the comics. For those who don't know she is almost a female Superman with super strength and the ability of fly, but they seem to have done a nice job of scaling that down. Like the strength, instead of throwing jet-planes, they made it so that she can stop a slow moving car.. and with the flying, I think we'll see her do high jumps at best.
That's honestly one of the things that makes me so hyped about the current TV-universe and how they are setting up The Defenders. You have heroes who do great things but they're more human than gods. Someone like Daredevil can take on some thugs, but he's not invincible. Jessica Jones looks similar. She might have more powers, but she's not Thor or Hulk. They seem to be doing a great job of creating these heroes that are superior to most of us regular humans, but still make them grounded. When we get to see The Defenders in action, 4 heroes taking on a greater enemy, it will be really cool. I love that these heroes deal with smaller problems like cleaning up the hood, whereas the Avengers deal with world problems.
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Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. was very good tonight. It seems pretty crazy what they're setting up with the world beyond the portal—both in terms of universe-building for down the road and in terms of storyline for Fitz and Jemma. Like others, I was concerned that they brought her back too soon, but this episode, partly because it goes back and focuses entirely on Jemma's story totally changed my mind—Fitz saving her was only the start of a much bigger storyline.
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Tonight... just... :omg:
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Yep. This show just does not shy away from big plot twists like that.
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I didn't really like last night's episode. The reveal at the end was certainly cool and well done, but the entire episode before that was probably the weakest of the season so far.
I think Hunter is being treated unfairly for the call he made, and I think May seemed to overreact to everything that happened in the episode. Yeah, she's upset about what happened to Andrew, but this is May we're talking about, it all just seemed a bit out of character.
I'm really really hoping that Fitz does go through with helping Simmons save Will, because that is the right thing to do. They seemed to be hinting at him being conflicted about it, which is fine, but Fitz should be a good enough person not to let that get to him.
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Forgot to say anything about the latest AoS. Pretty good, what I especially liked about it was they explained the motivation of the ATCU. Making them seem less like bad guys. Driving the point home by having them agree to put Andrew in the stasis gel was really good.
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Just rewatched Ant-Man. Great fun movie. Looking forward to the follow up.
Also, Great start to the new season of AoS.
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Can't wait for Jessica Jones. I'll be binge-watching next weekend.
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Big episode of AoS this week, tying the season's multiple storylines together, which was cool.
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Big episode of AoS this week, tying the season's multiple storylines together, which was cool.
I agree. This is really working for me.
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Yep. I'm hoping we get some more Ward greatness. I thought he was by far the best character in season 2, but has been less interesting so far in season 3. Hopefully we're about to see him play an intriguing role opposing S.H.I.E.L.D.
I also hope we see more of the planet, which I imagine we will.
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I am very curious about what "it" is and how it will play out. The scenes involving "it" on the planet were interesting and freaky.
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Saw roughly half of Jessica Jones last night, and it might be the best thing Marvel has done so far. Will watch the rest tonight!
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I only had time to catch the first episode, but it was fantastic. Can't wait to see more.
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I think the Defenders-Marvelverse (basically the tv-universe minus AoS and Agent Carter) is off to such a great start that it's almost stronger than their movie-universe. Sure, it's early days, but if Luke Cage and Iron Fist are both great as well, then The Defenders is a show I'll be looking forward to even more than Infinity War. I really like how they have found a way to scale down the heroes and make them more human. With the movies there's never a sense of danger, we know that Captain America is basically invincible, but characters like Jessica Jones or Daredevil are flawed despite having powers. You feel more that the danger they face has bigger consequences and is much harder on them.
Also, David Tennant as Kilgrave/The Purple Man is just amazing. Even better than Kingpin was in Daredevil IMO. What a creepy and memorable performance!
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I only had time to catch the first episode, but it was fantastic. Can't wait to see more.
This. Finished the first episode a few minutes ago, and it was really really good. And even though we barely even saw Tennant, he still already disturbs me to my core.
So weird to see stuff like pretty graphic sex scenes and lesbians making out in a Marvel production.
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Halfway through episode two, very promising. Do we need a separate thread for her?
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Were these characters lesbians in the source material too?
Just watched episode one. Holy fuck, this is awesome. And yeah, Tennant (and his character) are terrifying. I am really glad Netflix and others have remade those stories into something I care about - for some reason reading comic books bores me to death.
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I'm almost done with S1 and without exaggeration I think Kilgrave might be the best Marvel villain yet. Their movie villains are kinda bland for the most part, but Kingpin and now Kilgrave have both been amazing. Tennant kinda steals the show in many episodes, but Ritter is excellent as well.
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Just finished all of Jessica Jones. I went into this show knowing nothing about her character except she was Luke Cage's wife in the comics. This show is fantastic. Stronger than the first season of Daredevil, which is saying something!
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Ditto on all accounts. What a fucking fantastic first season! The beginning half is a little slow to start and definitely the lesser of the halves, but the last few episodes are just spectacular, especially the last episode. I lost my shit when the nurse showed up. That was just awesome and I had forgotten about that aspect till then, though I did think afterwards why with all the lawyering going on in the show the dynamic duo never showed.
Killgrave absolutely held the show though. I loved Jessica but Tennant's acting killed it in every way imaginable. I'm wondering how S2 will be, but I also doubt we've seen the last of him. I love that we saw The Purple Man in true form at the last moments.
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Absolutely amazing finale. Tennant is my favourite Doctor, but he really upped his game here. He is perfect, so good that it was like mind controlling me - in some instances I hated Kilgrave, in others I was ready to forgive him everything. I have no idea how the story goes after S1, but I hope we haven't seen the last of him - as long as they can keep up the character arc good, his character role feels complete as is.
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Just finished Jessica Jones, and I really loved it! Ritter and Tennant were both fantastic; I actually like Kilgrave a lot more than Fisk as a villian. Both Daredevil and Jessica Jones have been fantastic, so I have really high hopes for the next Marvel series, as well as Netflix-produced shows in general.
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It's not gonna be until the Christmas break that jingle.son and I get to binge-watch thru Jessica Jones. I'd still like to have AoS discussion here, so perhaps ya'll want to start a Netflix Marvel-verse thread for that discussion - since everyone is watching it at different paces?
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It's not gonna be until the Christmas break that jingle.son and I get to binge-watch thru Jessica Jones. I'd still like to have AoS discussion here, so perhaps ya'll want to start a Netflix Marvel-verse thread for that discussion - since everyone is watching it at different paces?
Might be a good idea.
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Man, I´m tryin´ to follow 6 or 7 shows at the moment. Can´t slip up.....
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Marvel finally released the Civil War trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVdV-lxRPFo
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DAYYUUUM! THAT is a trailer. Not too much shown but just enough to excite and show the story's premise before enticing the bumps of geese. Dat last scene. I am absolutely not going to watch another scene till the movie comes out, that was perfect and just what I need, nothing more.
Finally, something more than 'let's team up and fight the other team-up of bad guys and the inevitable army of peons only to face the big-bad'. Phew! I was all but over the schtick but this one is flipping the format on its head and I fucking love it. Even though it's a CA movie and that looks to be the highlight, it's clearly a team-up film in its own right but done totally different and I am so on board for that. I'm actually really excited for this one. New characters that look to be more than fodder, new ideals from both sides, and motherfucking FRENEMIES. Yes. Good stuff. I've got hope for this one.
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I'll watch only the official trailers - none of the 'featurettes' and shit that revealed about 20 mins of Age of Ultron. This was an amazing trailer - interesting to see who's on whose side - Black Widow and Hawkeye on opposite sides. And the Black Panther reveal - damn that looks good. Still lots more to be revealed - Crossbones, Spidey, Vision - this is gonna have more heroes than either of the Avengers films.
Love it.
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Wow indeed! That trailer was intense. I think the Captain America movies have become my favorite.
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Wow indeed! That trailer was intense. I think the Captain America movies have become my favorite.
Without a doubt. I still think Winter Soldier is only slightly behind Avengers 1 as the best MCU movie. This one is gonna be sic. I'm looking forward to this more than Star Wars.
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I'm looking forward to this more than Star Wars.
Um, no. Not even close for me.
Tennant is just amazing, just got through ep7, he is downright fucking spooky. Not sure if I like him better than Kingpin yet though.
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Watched the premier of JJ last night. Good start.
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Wow indeed! That trailer was intense. I think the Captain America movies have become my favorite.
Without a doubt. I still think Winter Soldier is only slightly behind Avengers 1 as the best MCU movie. This one is gonna be sic. I'm looking forward to this more than Star Wars.
Flip them for me. Winter Soldier #1 but both are close.
That trailer looks amazing.
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I'm looking forward to this more than Star Wars.
Um, no. Not even close for me.
That just proves you're a bigger nerd than me. :biggrin:
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That trailer was better than the 2hrs and 30 minutes of crap that I had to sit through watching "Avengers: Age of Ultron" by like a fuck metric ton. This looks great. Thank God for the Russo Brothers.
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I'm really excited for Civil War, but it doesn't come close to Star Wars. The hype for The Force Awakens is one of those "once in a lifetime" things, similar to the hype leading up to Avengers. I have no doubt Civil War will be great and enjoyable as hell, but we get 2 Marvel movies each year, but we only get one Force Awakens. This is the start of the franchise again, the hype is massive.
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Well said. I agree.
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Well said. I agree.
So do I, but my personal interest level is more for Civil War. Maybe because I already got one Star Wars re-boot in my life, and maybe because I'm about 60% of the way through the Civil War comics (the entire event - the joy of a Marvel Unlimited subscription). It doesn't make sense, but I'm just not nearly as jazzed for The Force Awakens. For some reason, it just feels like any other blockbuster movie to me.
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Yeah, I like Star Wars, and I'll see TFA in theaters, but I'm much more excited for Civil War by a large margin.
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I am 5 episodes in with Jessica Jones.
Holy crap, this is fantastic.
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I'm only on 3 so far, got some catching up to do!
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I'm up to 8, getting ready to hit a few more.
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Yup, I´m at 7, loving this so far....although it gets pretty downright uncomfortable at times.
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Yup, I´m at 7, loving this so far....although it gets pretty downright uncomfortable at times.
Charming. Jingle.son and I just finished #3. Watching repeated hump-sessions with your 15 year old child was awkward enough.
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Mrs. P and I binge watch Jessica Jones yesterday and finished up. Holy, shit that was incredible! Mike Colter is terrific as Cage.
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Yup, I´m at 7, loving this so far....although it gets pretty downright uncomfortable at times.
Charming. Jingle.son and I just finished #3. Watching repeated hump-sessions with your 15 year old child was awkward enough.
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´Dad, what´s that woman doing on top of that man?´
´Well, son, it appears she´s fuckin´the bejesus out of him´
´So...dad, what´s ´bejesus´ mean?´ ;)
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He's 15. I think he knows exactly what she's doing on top of him.
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Finished.
Holy crap, that was awesome. David Tennant was amazing.
Can't wait for the Luke Cage series (now filming), and season 2 of Daredevil.
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Finished today as well, great show. I too would say that it beat the first season of Daredevil.
And for me there is no doubt, Kilgrave is the best Marvel villain so far. Maybe because they're allowed to go to such dark places with the character since it's Netflix. Some of it is truly disturbing, I love it.
Didn't watch the Civil War trailer, but nice to hear that it's good.
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Finished Jessica Jones last night. What an awesome first series! Ritter is cast perferct, she carries the show, but the support cast are no slouches either. I really liked the Malcom character, and Trish.
Pretty gruesome violance at times though, but it's ok. It's not a kids show.
Looking forward to Daredevil 2 and Luke Cage now as well!!
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I hate Ward so much. ...which I guess ensures that they can NEVER kill him off. He is too good a villain. In terms of story and writing, I was becoming concerned that he was beginning to appear to shallow and one-dimensional, but I like that they are actually addressing that in Gideon pointing out that it is a character flaw that Ward needs to overcome--in other words, he is flawed because he is a flawed human being in that area, and not simply because of flawed character writing.
Anyhow, looks like the Secret Warriors with Daisy at the helm is now going to officially be a thing instead of merely being hinted at, which is cool. Are we heading toward a showdown between the Secret Warriors and the "thing" from the strange planet? Is "it" an established Marvel character or something new? And will "it" carry over into the films or stay confined to AOS?
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I have no answers to any of those questions, but man did I enjoy the episode! Very curious about this "it" thing.
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I have no idea, but the episode was hella fun.
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Just watched. That was one of the best episodes of the entire show. Coulson pushed to the breaking point, Fitz literally giving up the world for Jemma, more Ward background (which was essentially because Ward was becoming less interesting), Mack having to take the role of Director (again, something that revitalized a character who hadn't been doing anything interesting lately).
And of course Ward being the worst person ever.
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So, thoughts on Agents of SHIELD winter finale?
Also, anyone else made significant progress/finished Jessica Jones?
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I finished JJ a little while ago. Really liked it a lot, although some of the plotlines were a bit iffy and the ending perhaps a little uneventful. But the whole athmosphere was great. Really looking forward to season 2 and Luke Cage.
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Finished Jessica Jones last night, loved it. On a par with Daredevil - I possibly like DD slightly more, but only the tiniest bit.
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Also, mid-season finale of AoS last night, which I really liked.
The way Ward died was really brutal, not what I expected. Damn Coulson. I was a bit disappointed at first when I thought that Fitz managed to kill "it" before it returned to earth, but was pleasantly surprised by that twist at the end.
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Also, no guarantee that Ward is gone forever. The thing seemingly had Will's memories, remember. Ward might still be alive in there in some capacity.
If not, it's been a fantastic run for him as one of the best TV villains I've ever seen (and up there with Loki among the best MCU villains, to be honest).
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I found killing Ward to be very un-Coulson like. He should've left him there to rot. The alien entity could've still infested Ward, make it back to Earth, and then it really would be a symbiotic relationship between it and the host... and clearly the entity could have both its consciousness and Ward's memories.
1/2 way thru JJ (up to the point where she revealed what happened to Cage). jingle.son has a couple of assignments and tests due next week, so it won't be until the Christmas break that we're able to finish it off.
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I´m still a bit baffled how they all, including Ward, could´ve made it through the portal in time, but hey....
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I´m still a bit baffled how they all, including Ward, could´ve made it through the portal in time, but hey....
Yeah, that was a little stupid too. They didn't have to set it up with 'there's only 61 seconds to get thru', then give them like 2 minutes (and more for Ward).
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The power of misleading editing is strong with this one.
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The power of misleading editing is strong with this one.
Agreed. The earth time was not matching up with that planet's time. So we all questioned it.
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Apocalypse trailer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89fY0EgogQE
Giggity
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Hot damn that looks good!
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Not interested.
Also, not part of the MCU.
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Not interested.
Also, not part of the MCU.
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???
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The first 2 movies of the newer series were so well done though Hef.
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???
For the purposes of this thread, you interpret "Marvel" = "Marvel Studios". I interpret it as "Marvel" = "Marvel". xmen and FF are Marvel, thus fair game for discussion here.
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Somewhere along the way, I think it became understood that "Marvel's Movie/TV Universe" referred specifically to the MCU. But as I think I said earlier in the thread when this debate first came up, there really isn't a good reason to limit the thread that way and start a separate thread for other Marvel stuff. As it is, this thread isn't moving all that fast. If people want to discuss non-MCU Marvel stuff here, I have no problem with that. But I also have no problem with Hef (and others, probably myself included) not caring about stuff that isn't MCU.
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Well, my not caring takes a back seat to not being part of the MCU.
But whatever. Discuss if you must.
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Well, if you want, we could just hop into the back seat together and see where it goes. :zydarscouch:
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I'm game.
BTW, caring or not, I hope that is a good film. I never root for films to suck. They just tend to do so.
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Somewhere along the way, I think it became understood that "Marvel's Movie/TV Universe" referred specifically to the MCU. But as I think I said earlier in the thread when this debate first came up, there really isn't a good reason to limit the thread that way and start a separate thread for other Marvel stuff. As it is, this thread isn't moving all that fast. If people want to discuss non-MCU Marvel stuff here, I have no problem with that. But I also have no problem with Hef (and others, probably myself included) not caring about stuff that isn't MCU.
Not to derail... I think the "understood" was really just a result of the fact that 90% of the discussion and shows/movies that mattered were MCU - the only non-MCU Marvel that anyone really cared to discuss was xmen (FF blows - everyone knows that).
Since there is very limited non-MCU stuff (xmen/Deadpool), any thread dedicated to that would be painfully under-utilized. I think it makes more sense for those (morons :biggrin:) not interested in xmen/Deadpool simply skip those posts, rather than a whole new "Non-Marvel Marvel movies" thread.
I'm game.
BTW, caring or not, I hope that is a good film. I never root for films to suck. They just tend to do so.
The re-booted xmen franchise has been great. And given DOFP basically revised history to kibosh both Wolverine Origins and Last Stand in a very reasonable manner, it deserves extra kudo's.
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Oh, I am VERY interested in Deadpool. That looks like 10 pounds of fun in a 5 pound bag.
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Oh, I am VERY interested in Deadpool. That looks like 10 pounds of fun in a 5 pound bag.
Well, you better start a thread for it then. :biggrin:
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Somewhere along the way, I think it became understood that "Marvel's Movie/TV Universe" referred specifically to the MCU. But as I think I said earlier in the thread when this debate first came up, there really isn't a good reason to limit the thread that way and start a separate thread for other Marvel stuff. As it is, this thread isn't moving all that fast. If people want to discuss non-MCU Marvel stuff here, I have no problem with that. But I also have no problem with Hef (and others, probably myself included) not caring about stuff that isn't MCU.
Not to derail... I think the "understood" was really just a result of the fact that 90% of the discussion and shows/movies that mattered were MCU
I don't disagree with that.
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Oh, I am VERY interested in Deadpool. That looks like 10 pounds of fun in a 5 pound bag.
Well, you better start a thread for it then. :biggrin:
Maybe I will, smarty-pants. :P
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Oh, I am VERY interested in Deadpool. That looks like 10 pounds of fun in a 5 pound bag.
Well, you better start a thread for it then. :biggrin:
Maybe I will, smarty-pants. :P
:jackie:
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We can pants if we want to. :safetydance:
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Didn't watch the Apocalypse trailer, but I'm looking forward to the movie. First Class is a fun movie, and although I don't praise DoFP at all as much these days as I did when it came out, I still think it's a pretty good movie, and the best of the X-Men franshise.
That said, even though I generally like the movies, I don't really care about the X-Men overall. I see them once they're out, and have fun with them, but I'm not at all as psyched about them as I am the MCU movies.
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Same here.
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Now that Mr. Snyder, is how you make a trailer. Looks amazing and if it's as good as the last two in the new trilogy I'll be happy.
So in a 3 month time frame we'll get Civil War, X-Men, and Batman vs. Superman. I have a feeling Batman is going bomb hard.
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Now that Mr. Snyder, is how you make a trailer. Looks amazing and if it's as good as the last two in the new trilogy I'll be happy.
So in a 3 month time frame we'll get Civil War, X-Men, and Batman vs. Superman. I have a feeling Batman is going bomb hard.
Make it a 4 month timeline, and add Deadpool.
My interest level / predictions - Civil War >>> Deadpool > xmen >>>>>>>>>>> BvS
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My interest level: Civil War > Deadpool > ... ... ... /end
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What hopes I had left for BvS took a steep nosedive with the latest trailer.
We'll see.
But hey, let's extend the timeline a little further - Marvel's Doctor Strange hits in November, if I'm not mistaken. Absolutely can't wait for that one.
Also, rumors going around about Marvel being in talks with Kate Blanchett for a female lead role in Thor: Ragnarok. :metal
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I forgot about Deadpool, that does look like a lot of fun. Dr. Strange looks awesome as well.
Personally, as a huge Batman fan I hope BvS turns out better than I'm expecting.
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Also, rumors going around about Marvel being in talks with Kate Blanchett for a female lead role in Thor: Ragnarok. :metal
I'd rather have Kate Beckinsale.
Personally, as a huge Batman fan I hope BvS turns out better than I'm expecting.
Aren't we all?
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Also, rumors going around about Marvel being in talks with Kate Blanchett for a female lead role in Thor: Ragnarok. :metal
I'd rather have Kate Beckinsale.
Depends on the role.
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Apocalypse looked neat, I'm pretty much in the same boat as others who mentioned it. Fun and engaging but that's about it. I really loved the expose on Quicksilver in DOFP and it was by far my favorite part of the movie despite it's...quickness (PFFFFTHURRR). So I'm excited to at least see him in this again. I still think Apocalypse looks like a douchebag and should be in a cheap TV show rather than a big budget film but whatever, Oscar is awesome and can make it work and hopefully look past that godawful design.
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What hopes I had left for BvS took a steep nosedive with the latest trailer.
We'll see.
But hey, let's extend the timeline a little further - Marvel's Doctor Strange hits in November, if I'm not mistaken. Absolutely can't wait for that one.
I was never into Dr. Strange. I think I may have read one book when I was first getting into comics as a kid, and it did nothing for me, so I never revisited. I don't really know enough about the character to have any preconceptions about what a movie about that character could potentially look like, so I'm going into it blind. I have no expectations either way, other than expecting that, like all other movies in the franchise thus far, it will be pretty good whether I happen to like the comics or not.
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The only thing I remember about Dr. Strange is he is one badass mf'r.
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The only thing I know is that it's Benedict Cumberbatch, which is all I need to know.
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I found killing Ward to be very un-Coulson like. He should've left him there to rot.
I suspect this will be a very big part of the plot for the second half. I think we can obviously bet on a Fitz-Coulson confrontation, and probably later May and Mack will find out and that will be something else.
The alien entity could've still infested Ward, make it back to Earth, and then it really would be a symbiotic relationship between it and the host... and clearly the entity could have both its consciousness and Ward's memories.
Plus we'd still have Ward. I'm in favor of keeping that character around as long as possible.
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I found killing Ward to be very un-Coulson like. He should've left him there to rot.
I suspect this will be a very big part of the plot for the second half. I think we can obviously bet on a Fitz-Coulson confrontation, and probably later May and Mack will find out and that will be something else.
??? They all wanted him dead. Why would they "confront" Coulson about it?
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Because killing someone with his bare hand is not exactly Coulson-like. The look on Fitz's face as he watches it happen says it all.
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If by "says it all," you mean says "whoa, hardcore, but dude totally had it coming and I wish I had had it in me to do that," then yeah.
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If by "says it all," you mean says "whoa, hardcore, but dude totally had it coming and I wish I had had it in me to do that," then yeah.
You are so "street".
I can see both your points. I love cliffhanger episodes.
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True. I get what you're seeing, bosk, but I really think that part of it was that Fitz's perception of Coulson as a kind, forgiving guy was shattered in that moment of shocking brutality. Especially with the look that those two exchange at the very end of the episode, when Coulson is hugging May and Fitz is hugging Jemma. Sort of seemed to me like Fitz was still stunned by what Coulson did and Coulson was warning him not to talk about it.
What I found really unnerving is that even in the last few episodes, after everything that has happened, Ward continues to demonstrate some remaining vestiges of humanity. Judging on his actions you'd think it's clear that he's a total monster, but the way he's written, it's like the writers want to give you every reason not to come to that conclusion, though every action Ward takes, judged on their own, should make the audience and has long ago made the protagonists conclude that he's 100% rotten and awful to the core. They keep putting that humanity in there, to the point where I almost thought Coulson was going to show him mercy and carry him back through (which just made what Coulson actually did all the more shocking for me, so well done by the writers for misleading me).
Regardless of what comes next, the Coulson character has undergone some serious development in the past few episodes and I hope the writers continue to do interesting things with the true hero of the MCU.
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Sort of seemed to me like Fitz was still stunned by what Coulson did and Coulson was warning him not to talk about it.
I didn't get that at all from it. Fitz was telling Coulson to leave Ward behind, which pretty much means death anyway, so I don't think he was as shocked as you're making out.
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I mean, there's a bit of a difference between leaving the guy to die and manually crushing his internal organs. But I suppose we shall see in March.
Might be time for a rewatch of Seasons 1 and 2 between now in then. In loving memory of Grant Ward, of course.
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Oh absolutely, which is why it's an important moment. I just didn't get the impression it's so hugely shocking for Fitz, but I could be wrong.
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I have also thought about rewatching the earlier seasons. It would be especially interesting to see season 1 again. Through all of S1 I was convinced Ward was a good guy, and I wonder if it'd be cool to watch him the entire season from a completely different perspective.
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Yeah, that's part of why I want to watch it again. I honestly did not see the switch coming at all. Turn, Turn, Turn was one of the most shocking TV episodes I've ever seen because there is so little indication, that I can recall, of what's going to happen.
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Watched the first episode of Daredevil on Monday night. It was not bad, especially for a series opener. Hats off to Marvel for once again taking a minor character that few really cared much about in the comics universe and building a good story and good viewing experience around.
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Just wait for the second episode.
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And the ending of the third episode...whew!
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And the fourth as well.
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Yeah, DD has several gut punches in store. I'll be interested to see if it effects bosk1 the same way it got me. :corn
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And the fourth as well.
Pretty sure it was the fourth that disturbed the fuck out of me.
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And the fourth as well.
Pretty sure it was the fourth that disturbed the fuck out of me.
I agree.
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So.... Hougarth shouldn't have been able to hear Killgrave tapping on the glass, right?
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Second episode was good. It was sort of what I would expect from the second episode of a good series that is trying to eventually make a long run: Don't try to do too much more than give us some reasons to like our main cast of characters in terms of what they are doing and why, and give us enough of their back story to make them seem real. Good character development episode. Plot was interesting and just vague enough as to the big picture that it made me wonder whether they didn't have one yet at that stage in the writing, or if it is well-written enough that they are intentionally keeping it shrouded. Either way, the series seems very well written.
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Plus, that long take at the end is awesome.
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Yeah, now that you mention it. Funny that it didn't strike me at the time how well-done that is from a cinematic point of view. But now that I think back on it, it is brilliant. I am going to have to go back and watch that part again. The stuff that happens off camera is just as cool and integral to the scene, if not moreso, than what you actually hear/see onscreen. Very cool.
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Yeah, that's all good.
But the one-take invasion/fight/rescue scene!
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I know the X-Men: Apocalypse discussion started a few pages back but I just want to say I'm stoked for this movie. The X-Men are probably the comic book series I follow the most.
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I know the X-Men: Apocalypse discussion started a few pages back but I just want to say I'm stoked for this movie. The X-Men are probably the comic book series I follow the most.
Uh, this is the Marvel CINEMATIC UNIVERSE thread. X-Men isn't a part of that. Gosh!
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It's actually a relevant difference. I mean, I don't mind it being discussed in this thread, but there is absolutely a relevant difference between Marvel Cinematic Universe and films that use Marvel characters.
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You're right... but we've gone over this. If it's a big enough deal for anyone, feel free to start a new (and slow moving) non-Marvel Marvel thread.
Just watched 4 episodes of Jessica Jones last night - up to the part where Hope kills herself. Didn't really see the need for her to do it, but whatever. Interested to see where the final 3 episodes go. jingle.son and I will polish that off later today.
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I'd be all for renaming this thread so that any Marvel-related film and television media may be discussed in it - since that is what people are doing in it anyway, and it will avoid disagreements about the validity of certain movies being discussed here in the future.
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Anyone else loving the 12 Days of Deadpool?
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:rollin :rollin
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:lol
Looks like a fun movie that's a perfect fit for Ryan Reynolds.
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:rollin
"Seriously, my scrotum has more facial expressions."
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Yeah, I think that movie will be LOTS of fun.
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The video of Reynolds, in full Deadpool garb, going out trick-or-treating with some kids dressed as x-men was hilarious:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Nvg0LwWeTU
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So, apparently the Russo Brothers will film Avengers: Infinity War 1 & 2 entirely with a new 2D digital IMAX camera (the first film to do so in its entirety). They shot 20 minutes of Captain America: Civil War with it, loved it, and decided that IW warranted being shot completely like that.
:eek
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Nice. I think Infinity War is shaping up to become the most expensive film production of all time.
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Wa-HOO!
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These, along with confirmation that Mads will be playing the villain, another sorcerer, has me supremely excited for this.
I cannot wait to see what Mads looks like as an evil sorcerer and then seeing Benedict battle it out with him with their wizardy. Cool, cool, cool! This one should be really fun.
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Hot damn yes!!
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Yeah, saw this earlier today thanks to Hef. Very stoked about this one. I think this is going to be even more unique and different than GotG or Ant Man.
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I think so too. I'm really excited about the majesty (NUGALERT) of the magic and the world surrounding it. Even the pre-production stills and art show a very different side of Marvel we have yet to see in its cinematic universe. Thus far it's been entirely too samey and I hope (and think) this movie turns that upside down and breaks that world into tiny little pieces.
Even something like the Quantum Realm will seem tame (granted, it was shown for all of two minutes in Ant Man) if they do this right.
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Don't know anything about Dr. Strange but those pics look pretty badass. Definitely gonna see it when it hits.
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Kevin Feige said that with Doctor Strange, they really want to capture the psychedlic look and feel of the original Lee/Ditko comics.
If they pull that off, this film will be trippy as hell. Also, easily the finest cast of any Marvel film to date. Can't wait.
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Daredevil season 2 drops March 18th :metal
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Daredevil season 2 drops March 18th :metal
Cool. I'm still fairly early in Season 1 (through ep. 4), but liking it a lot.
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Daredevil season 2 drops March 18th :metal
Cool. I'm still fairly early in Season 1 (through ep. 4), but liking it a lot.
It gets better.
Just thinking about it makes me want to watch it again.
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Awesome!!! I'm definitely going to watch it again before it comes out but I may have to wait till mid February.
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Watched ep. 6 last night. This was perhaps my favorite by far, despite the lack of action. One thing TV definitely has over films is the ability to take an entire episode just to do backstory and character development on the villain, and it was brilliant here. Fisk may now be my favorite villain in the Marvel universe.
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Watched ep. 6 last night. This was perhaps my favorite by far, despite the lack of action. One thing TV definitely has over films is the ability to take an entire episode just to do backstory and character development on the villain, and it was brilliant here. Fisk may now be my favorite villain in the Marvel universe.
Yeah, he's great, and Donofrio did an outstanding job with that acting performance.
Another fantastic MCU villain is Kilgrave (performed by David Tennant) in Jessica Jones. I don't think it is any coincidence that they are the best villains - fantastic actors given well-written and developed parts that have plenty of time to unspool the story on TV series.
I also have to give a thumbs-up to Tom Hiddleston as Loki and James Spader as Ultron.
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Another fantastic MCU villain is Kilgrave (performed by David Tennant) in Jessica Jones.
Indeed, he's my favorite of their villains so far.
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Watched ep. 6 last night. This was perhaps my favorite by far, despite the lack of action. One thing TV definitely has over films is the ability to take an entire episode just to do backstory and character development on the villain, and it was brilliant here. Fisk may now be my favorite villain in the Marvel universe.
Yeah, he's great, and Donofrio did an outstanding job with that acting performance.
Another fantastic MCU villain is Kilgrave (performed by David Tennant) in Jessica Jones. I don't think it is any coincidence that they are the best villains - fantastic actors given well-written and developed parts that have plenty of time to unspool the story on TV series.
I also have to give a thumbs-up to Tom Hiddleston as Loki and James Spader as Ultron.
Honestly, I think Marvel has done a pretty good job with their villains in general. The only major villain that has been insufficiently developed that I can point to is Thanos. But that is largely by design, and his time is coming.
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https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/deadpool-denied-release-china-due-856627
China has banned the Deadpool movie.
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Netflix announce Jessica Jones greenlit for season 2.
Also, rumors swirling that they are so enamored with Jon Bernthal's performance as the Punisher in the upcoming second season of Daredevil that they are developing a Punisher series as well. Nothing confirmed on that yet, though, so we will see what we will see.
Iron Fist is currently in the casting phase.
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Have to give Marvel credit. Theater movies aside, they have started to build a MONSTER product in their Tv shows. Daredevil, Agent Carter, Jessica Jones etc. I love the Marvel movies, but with so much available topic to thrust the plot and characters into a 2 plus hour movie is hard. They have done a good job. That said, with TV, they can develop the characters, story etc over 13 hours. Each series is its own BEAST, a 13 hour movie lets say. Shit, u get the feeling for Jessica and Daredevil. If they continue to do it in the right way. The TV series are endless. and the way to tie it in with theatrical......if done right which I have faith in with the people in charge can be astronomical.
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Yeah I've definitely enjoyed the TV shows more than the movies with exception to the first Iron Man and Winder Soldier. By miles on most accounts. Really excited to see what they bring in the coming years.
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Slow going with Daredevil right now. I've just been busy. But there are a couple of things I have been wondering about that I would like to know, unless these somehow become more detailed plot points that actually would spoil something:
1. Does Matt ever get something closer to the traditional red suit that we've all come to know and love from the comics, or does he just remain "the man in black" with his sort of convenience-store-holdup-man crossed with ninja outfit?
2. ...uh...I forget what #2 is. But it was actually the more important question that was the initial reason for me to do this post in the first place. ...but I don't remember what it was. Um...I will fill it in later. :lol
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@ Bosk... stay tuned.
@ TAC ... wrong company. Take it to the DC thread. :biggrin: But no, neither of them is 'bad'... just different shades of good. Might want to spend some time out from whatever rock you hide under if you're just hearing of this now. :D :-*
Edit - Ninja'd by TJ
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@ Bosk... stay tuned.
I will take that as a "yes, but I'm not saying anything more because it actually is related to a bigger plot point that you don't want spoiled." :biggrin: I just hope it's something a bit better than Foggy coming up with, "Well, shoot, if you're actually going to be a super hero, you should probably have a super suit." (Last episode I saw was 6, which ended with Foggy stumbling upon Matt lying at death's door in his "man in black" outfit)
#3: Does Elektra ever show up, by any chance?
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Season 2! I hope you wanted a definitive answer to that given the question but I don't think it's anything much of a spoiler considering that's all I know.
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Keep watching Daredevil Bosk. It only gets better. MONSTER show. Collossus and Elektra in Season 2.
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#3: Does Elektra ever show up, by any chance?
She is referenced in a throwaway line late in season 1 that would be easy to miss.
She will be a featured character in season 2, along with the Punisher.
Collossus and Elektra in Season 2.
Colossus is most definitely NOT going to be in season 2 of Daredevil, or any other MCU appearance, because his film rights are held with the other X-Men characters by Fox.
He will be appearing next in the Deadpool film.
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I had my episode numbers wrong somehow. Watched ep. 10 last night. GREAT episode. So many :omg: moments. And the use of Foggy's "Is everything our relationship was built on a lie?" question was a great vehicle for all the use of flashbacks to build character backstory. Brilliantly done. I have to say, this show is doing a fantastic job building the characters. They all feel very real.
:omg: @ Gao totally calling out Fisk!
:omg: @ that is Fisk's mom?! It was obvious during that whole sequence at the home that something more was going on and that Karen was up to something, but I could not for the life of me figure out what it was until she dropped Wilson's name. Did NOT see that coming!
:omg: @ Vanessa apparently dying! Was it Yakuza to avenge Nobu? Was it Gao's people to stop Fisk's momentum or send a message? Was it someone else? Either way, I have no doubt there will be a reckoning, and the fallout is going to be far-reaching. Yikes!
:omg: @ Foggy walking out on Matt! While I get his motivation, I was not expecting that reaction from him. After his initial shock/anger/hurt, I expected him to basically...just get over it and be like, "Well, actually, I guess this is pretty friggin' cool! How can we use this?" And maybe he will just get over it soon and move to that headspace. But the way it was left at the end of the episode, I fear that it is going to take some sort of tragedy to bring them back together, which does not bode well for...somebody.
Anyhow, great episode. I look forward to the next one.
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I moved TAC's posts to the correct thread.
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thoughts on season 2 premiere of Agent Carter last night? personally I loved it, really enjoy the humor in this show, especially the banter between Carter and Jarvis. I also feel like this show works well in this shorter, miniseries type format, especially with all the other marvel shows we have now and coming soon. color me excited for the rest of this season, the rest of SHIELD, and Daredevil season 2 :tup
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Shoot, I forgot about Agent Carter. Missed it.
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I didn't forget, but I missed it all the same. I'll catch it this weekend sometime.
Did anyone catch the Captain America 75th anniversary special that aired before Agent Carter? I thought that was pretty cool.
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I watched it Hef. I really liked it as well!
Agent Carter was okay, but I'll need to see how the other episodes pan out. I'm not as engaged as I was in the first season of it.
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Agent Carter was pretty good, which is basically all I need from this one. It does a good job entertaining me, but I don't really care very much when the episode ends. It's probably the Marvel property that I care the least about at the moment.
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BTW, Haley Atwell is just gorgeous.
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BTW, Daredevil discussion above.
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BTW, Daredevil discussion above.
That's gorgeous too.
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Just finished season 1 over the weekend. Pretty intense. Loved it. Since nobody wants to actually discuss details, I'll just leave it at that and not waste my time getting into the nitty-gritty. But I am looking forward to season 2 for sure. Can't wait for March 18th!
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Since nobody wants to actually discuss details
Not true, we were just being cautious so as not to spoil anything!
Now that you've finished it, what did you think? Favourite moments/things about it?
Also, watch Jessica Jones next.
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I loved it. The comic character bored me, so I didn't follow. I was very pleasantly surprised with how good this was. Despite my love for Agents of SHIELD and some of the films, DD may just be my favorite Marvel franchise.
Fisk was SO well done. He was truly evil and truly psychotic, and yet he was DO complex and well done that it was hard to not like him or at least sympathize at times. Biggest :omg: moment for me (and my wife as well) was Wesley getting shot. I could see a lot of the other deaths of key characters a mile away (Ben, for example :) ). But I really did not expect Wesley to get it. The funeral scene for Ben, and the revelation that he had an insurance policy so that his wife would be taken care of was a nice bit of closure, and just one more of many little details that did not by any stretch have to be included, but added so much texture and detail by having it in there. I love that they did stuff like that throughout.
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Wesley was such a likable, evil toady that it was just inconceivable that he'd go out like that. :omg: Some of Fisk's backstory really hit home for me so I had sincerely mixed emotions about his character. In the end, I was rooting for Mathew to take him down but still, I can't help but hope for Fisk's redemption. Although, that would be a pretty stupid thing to do...story wise.
What a fantastic series!
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Wesley was an amazing character. I am really sorry to see him go (although I am really glad to see him go). :)
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I found Wesley to be much more interesting that Fisk. Very sad to see him go.
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I would say he was "much more" interesting, but I did love that character, and was shocked/bummed to see him go so stupidly at the hands of Karen. He deserved a much better/more meaningful death.
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I would say he was "much more" interesting, but I did love that character, and was shocked/bummed to see him go so stupidly at the hands of Karen. He deserved a much better/more meaningful death.
I wouldn't say he "deserved" something better. The fact that he was so even made him getting punked by Karen pretty satisfying to me. Definitely shocking, but also (IMO) very fitting as well. He was directly or indirectly involved in several scenarios where other unwittingly suddenly found themselves in situations in which they were helpless and were killed. It was rather poetic that that is how he met his own end.
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Mean't to say that Lesely wasn't "much more" interesting... but he was (to me) a "little" more interesting than Fisk.
Maybe "deserved" isn't the right word. No one "deserves" anything, but I think I would've been more satisfied if his death was a little more than getting 'punk'd' by someone who was still groggy from being drugged (at least, I think that's how it went down). Lesley was a meticulous person... I had trouble believing he would leave a loaded gun unattended like that.
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You know, another shocking thing about that scene was once Karen realized the gun was loaded (after shooting him the first time) she grits her teeth and unloads the thing on him! Underneath her meek and caring exterior, something else is lurking.
"Do you really think this is the first time I've shot someone?"
:omg:
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Disney confirm that they don't intend to stop making Star Wars or Marvel CU movies.
:clap:
Can you say franchise fatigue ?
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They can make as many movies as possible as long as they don't suck.
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I haven't been sick of one Marvel movie at all.
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I haven't been sick of one Marvel movie at all.
Ditto.
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Not even Iron Man 2 ?
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The steam will run out eventually, but it doesn't look like it's anytime soon. Out of the 9-10 (how many are there?) Marvel films, I don't really LOVE that many of them, but I have enjoyed my viewing experiences of all of them, just that I return to some less than others. I probably won't watch Iron Man 2, the first Captain America or the Thor movies again, but that didn't stop me from enjoying them when I saw them initially.
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Not even Iron Man 2 ?
Iron Man 2 certainly had its issues, mostly with the story being hampered by all of the setup for the Avengers and the editing down of Mickey Rourke's character, but it also gave the first look at the multiple-combatant action that was coming with Avengers and later, bigger films. So while I view it as one of the lesser Marvel films, it is not bad, just a mixed bag that could have been better.
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The only things I remember about Iron Man 2 are : It's setup towards the end that the move that Stark and the other guy do is super powerful and they use it like 5 minutes later to defeat the boss.
Mostly I remember things that are set up that either go nowhere or are resolved really quickly.
It's such a massive drop off in storytelling from the first film.
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I never disliked Iron Man 2. I actually enjoy it, some parts even a lot.
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I never disliked Iron Man 2. I actually enjoy it, some parts even a lot.
Same here.
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You know, I remember it getting good reviews and only here people don't seem to care for it. The Marvel Movies are like Pixar. Even the average ones don't disappoint.
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Really I've heard from a lot of people that outrighted hated Iron Man 3 & Cars 2 to name just two films.
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(https://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrbjj3ZdUN1r2pyh2o1_500.gif)
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I remember thinking that the storyline was ok, but execution was a little lacking.
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The Iron Man 3 hate is something I never understood. To me it seemed to be mainly Marvel fanboys who were butthurt about the twist, and others just jumped on that train. It wasn't as good as the first Iron Man, but it definitely wasn't Iron Man 2.
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The Iron Man 3 hate is something I never understood. To me it seemed to be mainly Marvel fanboys who were butthurt about the twist, and others just jumped on that train. It wasn't as good as the first Iron Man, but it definitely wasn't Iron Man 2.
I think the twist is complete shit, and the entire movie after that turned into a mess of bad moment after bad moment. I most certainly like Iron Man 2 more.
"I want my bird."
Classic.
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Really I've heard from a lot of people that outrighted hated Iron Man 3 & Cars 2 to name just two films.
IM 3 is a fine movie. Cars 2 is good, not up to Pixar's standards but it's not a bad movie at all. It's just that they set a high bar with all their other movies.
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Iron Man 3? That was damn awesome! The only weaker one so far was IM2, and even that was solid enough, as others have said.
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I was amused at the twist with The Mandarin, and was kinda bummed they wasted a lot of potential with Kingsley. Though, that may be because he's one of my favorite actors of all time.
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I must say, I enjoyed his role. How many times do you see him play a doofus? It was refreshing. I also love Guy Pearce as an actor.
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I must say, I enjoyed his role. How many times do you see him play a doofus? It was refreshing. I also love Guy Pearce as an actor.
True, and he played the doofus pretty good. But that's not what I expect/want from Kingsley. It's like seeing John C. Reilly in a drama.
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:lol
I've seen him in a few serious roles I liked. So my wifes work cock blocked me and nerd blocked me. Lisa has to work Valentine's Day. She wanted to go to dinner and see Deadpool. That's my girl.
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I was amused at the twist with The Mandarin, and was kinda bummed they wasted a lot of potential with Kingsley. Though, that may be because he's one of my favorite actors of all time.
See I think they played it perfectly. He so often plays a villain, and he got to do a reasonable amount of that, but because of type-casting I and a lot of other people just didn't see that twist coming. It was one of my favourite things about that film.
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I was amused at the twist with The Mandarin, and was kinda bummed they wasted a lot of potential with Kingsley. Though, that may be because he's one of my favorite actors of all time.
See I think they played it perfectly. He so often plays a villain, and he got to do a reasonable amount of that, but because of type-casting I and a lot of other people just didn't see that twist coming. It was one of my favourite things about that film.
Between this and the top vid games, I'm beginning to think I don't even know you. :lol
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I was amused at the twist with The Mandarin, and was kinda bummed they wasted a lot of potential with Kingsley. Though, that may be because he's one of my favorite actors of all time.
See I think they played it perfectly. He so often plays a villain, and he got to do a reasonable amount of that, but because of type-casting I and a lot of other people just didn't see that twist coming. It was one of my favourite things about that film.
Agreed on all counts, Rich. :tup
And also, since I was never a fan of Iron Man in the comics and did not follow that character, I had no emotional investment in the character of the Mandarin. Not sure how much of a role that played in me enjoying the plot twist rather than being outraged by it, but it is possibly a factor.
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I haven't ever read a single Iron Man comic and hadn't even heard about the Mandarin before Iron Man 3 came out, and I hated it.
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I was amused at the twist with The Mandarin, and was kinda bummed they wasted a lot of potential with Kingsley. Though, that may be because he's one of my favorite actors of all time.
See I think they played it perfectly. He so often plays a villain, and he got to do a reasonable amount of that, but because of type-casting I and a lot of other people just didn't see that twist coming. It was one of my favourite things about that film.
Between this and the top vid games, I'm beginning to think I don't even know you. :lol
Well they do say opposites attract.
:eyebrows:
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I was amused at the twist with The Mandarin, and was kinda bummed they wasted a lot of potential with Kingsley. Though, that may be because he's one of my favorite actors of all time.
See I think they played it perfectly. He so often plays a villain, and he got to do a reasonable amount of that, but because of type-casting I and a lot of other people just didn't see that twist coming. It was one of my favourite things about that film.
Between this and the top vid games, I'm beginning to think I don't even know you. :lol
Well they do say opposites attract.
:eyebrows:
Sex me later. :ariich: + :heybaby:
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Aw, later? Why not now? :sadpanda:
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Last night's Agent Carter was really bad.
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I am a couple of episodes behind. Thus far, I have been enjoying season 2's lightheartedness.
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I think one of the great things about Marvel shows is the diversity, which allows someone like me to enjoy multiple tones between multiple shows.
While I preferred the more serious tone of Agent Carter season 1, I can find that tone in Agents of Shield, or more intensely in Daredevil or Jessica Jones, and thus can embrace Agent Carter, season 2's more lighthearted classic comic book tone.
That said, I am still not as much of a fan season 2. It's not bad, but I don't think it's as well written or structured as the first season, or in general. That said, I will watch every episode and enjoy it for what I can and still love Peggy, Jarvis, Mrs. Jarvis and of course Howard, not to mention some of those great supporting agents. Also very curious to see where Madame Masques story arch goes.
I am also super pumped for Daredevil season 2, and I am more excited for Civil War than I have been for any other CB movie. Thanks, in large part, to the brilliance of Winter Soldier and my trust in the Russo brothers.
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I am a couple of episodes behind.
Me too.
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I am also super pumped for Daredevil season 2, and I am more excited for Civil War than I have been for any other CB movie. Thanks, in large part, to the brilliance of Winter Soldier and my trust in the Russo brothers.
For those of us like me who may not have been paying close attention, does anyone know whether Daredevil is supposed to appear in Civil War?
Oh, and welcome back. I saw you lurking the other day and was wondering whether you would post.
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So we're 4 episodes into Jessica Jones and not sure if we can continue. It's good but I'm not loving it. Is it worth the investment to finish the season?
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Kaos, in my opinion it doesn't even get truly great until the big-bad starts fucking up people's worlds. In fact, I'd probably feel very much the same if it weren't for the antagonist. So yes, I'd say at least stick around until you see David Tennent really go balls to the wall. Stick around for at least 4 or 5 more episodes if you can bear it. If by then you're still bored then yeah it's just not for you.
Bosk, I seriously doubt he'll be showing up. I mean, there's been nothing official said on the matter other than the actor saying he'd love to do it and as far as I know, that's it. I'd be utterly stunned if he did. But as far as anything official goes, no, he's not gonna be involved.
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I am also super pumped for Daredevil season 2, and I am more excited for Civil War than I have been for any other CB movie. Thanks, in large part, to the brilliance of Winter Soldier and my trust in the Russo brothers.
For those of us like me who may not have been paying close attention, does anyone know whether Daredevil is supposed to appear in Civil War?
Oh, and welcome back. I saw you lurking the other day and was wondering whether you would post.
Much appreciated Bosk.
As far as DD in Civil War, the answer to that is no, unless it's an amazingly well kept secret or something.
They asked the actor about appearing in Infinity Wars, and he said he has not been contacted about it, and even suggested that if Marvel wanted to, they would be free to recast a movie version of DD for the movies. I highly doubt and truly hope they don't do this, however there is a growing amount of discord and animosity (or so I've read) between the heads of the Marvel movies and the Marvel TV shows. So it wouldn't surprise me to see less and less of any potential crossovers between the two. Unless they start working together, they will remain very separate. This sadly affects a show like Agents of Shield most, where the potential for cross over is much higher. Probably also explains why no one from the show was in AoU, despite being tied in plot wise.
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Yeah, DD won't appear in Civil War.
The Russo brothers were talking about how many characters were going to appear in Infinity War, though, so if any of the TV characters were to appear in a film, that would be my bet.
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I don't think any of the Netflix-heroes will appear in the films tbh. The splitting of the TV and Movie division at Marvel is an indication on that I think, as well as most of the comments being somewhat dismissive. Would it be cool to see Daredevil in Infinity War? Sure, but once you take those fairly restrained/realistic characters (by Marvel standards) and throw them against Thanos, how are they gonna go back to fighting normal street thugs after that?
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Sure, but once you take those fairly restrained/realistic characters (by Marvel standards) and throw them against Thanos, how are they gonna go back to fighting normal street thugs after that?
The same way the rest of us do. One thug at a time.
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I don't think any of the Netflix-heroes will appear in the films tbh. The splitting of the TV and Movie division at Marvel is an indication on that I think, as well as most of the comments being somewhat dismissive. Would it be cool to see Daredevil in Infinity War? Sure, but once you take those fairly restrained/realistic characters (by Marvel standards) and throw them against Thanos, how are they gonna go back to fighting normal street thugs after that?
Not just that, how are they going to fight Thanos?
Maybe Luke Cage since he has unbreakable skin, but DD? Dude really can't offer much in a situation like that. Nor could JJ really. Will have to see how they handle Iron Fist to gauge him.
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Yeah I'm really not expecting to ever see any TV peeps in the movies at all, ever. Movie peeps in the TV shows? Sure, maybe once in a while. But not the other way around, that'd be blasphemous. :lol (So sad and still for the most part true)
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So is Agent Carter really good? I started watching the first run of episodes and then kind of lost track of it.
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I've enjoyed this season so far. Last year was a grower and got better as it went on. Very good but not great.
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I think part of what has made those Netflix shows so great so far is that they are smaller in scale and have more of a realistic approach to them. It's not about saving the world or the universe, but cleaning up the city block. I think you risk robbing those characters of what makes them so great if you put them in a big scale movie about saving the universe.
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I think the smaller, more focused (and obviously the amount of time they have spread out over a while) writing is where it is at. I'm not so sure it's the actual scale that is to blame but rather the writing that goes along with making that very same spectacle you mentioned. Having a lot of characters absolutely does not do any favors for the writing being that if someone isn't as developed or is new to the series, they basically get thrown into the mix without a proper introduction, let alone any kind of backstory or build up about who they are, why they do what they do, etc. (or at best it's just horrendously done in a really pathetic way ala NotQuickEnough/Scarlet Bitch in AoU). Which is why I'm very quickly beginning to sour on the big bombastic Marvel films given that they're going the now often mentioned and now-outdone Spider-Man 3 route of just throwing in tons of characters and saying "ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!?". Welp...yeaaahhh but...it's not exactly the entertainment we deserve (okay done).
I think that they're doing a good job with what they're going for but the TV shows, in my mind at least, are absolutely top tier in both the writing department as well as the depiction of the characters they're exploring (with exception to Cap and Stark). It's just easier for obvious reasons to explore someone in a TV format when you've got great writers and don't have to juggle the character development with big explosions and tons of other characters.
As for Agent Carter...I'm pretty lukewarm on it. Quite, actually. Okay I don't give a shit about her. :lol Really, good show but I couldn't possibly give any less of a shit about the character and that's kind of an issue when it revolves around her. There is some cool stuff going on in the show and it's fairly well done but it still doesn't hold a candle to the Netflix shows, I don't think.
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Agent Carter season 1 was pretty entertaining. I liked the first 3 episodes of season 2, but episode 4 really was a sudden and pretty big drop in quality.
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I've gotta admit, I think Haley Atwell is the bee's knees, so I would watch Agent Carter even if I thought it was awful.
Also, speaking of film characters appearing on the TV shows, at one point it was apparently floated that Doctor Strange would appear on Iron Fist. I doubt it actually happens, but that would be cool.
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That'd be awesome and I'd say at least on the part of Cumberbatch, totally plausible; he's no stranger to television when it's done well and seems to be very flexible and humble.
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Son-in-law 2.0, just called and told me he scored 6:00 pm tickets to :deadpool: for tomorrow night!
:woot:
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I have no idea who Dr. Strange is but I might just watch it because of Benedict.
He's such a great actor.
he's like the new Ian McKellen or Patrick Stewart.
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Betty White reviews Deadpool (https://time.com/4219047/deadpool-review-betty-white/)
:rollin
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I have no idea who Dr. Strange is but I might just watch it because of Benedict.
He's such a great actor.
he's like the new Ian McKellen or Patrick Stewart.
I DO know who Dr. Strange is, but I agree 100% about Cumberbatch. He is amazing. I can't wait to see what he brings to one of my favorite comic characters.
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Daredevil Season 2 trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5_A0Wx0jU4
HOLY CRAP! :caffeine:
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Daredevil Season 2 trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5_A0Wx0jU4
HOLY CRAP! :caffeine:
Yea, that looked great. I love the fact that the major villain is just a more extreme version of Daredevil anyway.
Also the Electra bit was very nice.
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Daredevil Season 2 trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5_A0Wx0jU4
HOLY CRAP! :caffeine:
:metal
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Fucking A. So ready.
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Cool, I can't wait to share it with the Missus. It should be interesting to see what she says about Jon Bernthal playing Frank Castle... she hates that actor because of The Walking Dead. :lol
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Oh, he's like that in everything he's in. He is constantly playing the biggest, soggiest douchebags known to man (and I've only seen him otherwise in Sicario, Wolf of Wall Street and briefly in Rampart). But I do think he can change his tune just enough so that he fits Castle's personality, and other than that he's got the hardened, psychopathic side down pretty damn well. Quite frankly with Castle that's all you really need, so if he can resist being a douchebag I think he's got this...in the bag. *ba-dum-tiss* :millahhhh
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Thoughts on the two new Agent Carter episodes:
Frost interrogating Dotty was a really cool scene. And I like the relationship between Jarvis and Anna, so I really felt for the guy by the end there. Also, some things they did with Frost were very visually striking. Just details in how she moved, dressed, lighting, and the camera angles.
All the rest is boring me by this point.
And I hate the love drama they're introducing.
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Tio, I called it.
She saw him and groaned, "Oh, not that guy. What character is he playing?" I told her that his character is hinted at in the trailer and played it again for her. Then she said, "Fuck, the Punisher? Really? Do we need that asshat again? Oh, and Elektra again too... I'll reserve judgement since the first season was so good but this could be real bad."
And with that, She-Who-Must-Be-Adored turned on her designer heels and swished up the stairs.
God, but I love that woman!
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:lol
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The Punisher was my favorite part of the trailer really. Say what you want about his role in The Walking Dead, he's a great actor. He seems to be cast as douchebags or good guys turn bad, but he pulls it off so well. But again, I've never been the type of person who carries a grudge against an actor for a certain role, where they were supposed to be someone you disliked. This is a brand new role and a different character so.
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Daredevil Season 2 trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5_A0Wx0jU4
HOLY CRAP! :caffeine:
Yea, that looked great. I love the fact that the major villain is just a more extreme version of Daredevil anyway.
Also the Electra bit was very nice.
But is the Punisher really a "villain?" Or, probably more relevant to DD, is he the villain? Even if he starts off season 2 being antagonistic to DD, I doubt he will be the ultimate villain of the season. I could be wrong, but it just doesn't seem right.
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Daredevil Season 2 trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5_A0Wx0jU4
HOLY CRAP! :caffeine:
Yea, that looked great. I love the fact that the major villain is just a more extreme version of Daredevil anyway.
Also the Electra bit was very nice.
But is the Punisher really a "villain?" Or, probably more relevant to DD, is he the villain? Even if he starts off season 2 being antagonistic to DD, I doubt he will be the ultimate villain of the season. I could be wrong, but it just doesn't seem right.
You're right, antagonist is a better word. I doubt he'll ever be a hero, but he'll likely move into the respectable anti-hero territory by the end. I would love if season 2 didn't have the traditional villain. If it's split (unevenly) between Daredevil facing the consequences of his heroism in Punisher, or his past (Elektra) I'd love that. More personal and character based, less focused on good overcoming evil.
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For those who have watched both Jessica Jones and DD, what do you consider to be the better show overall?
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Dardevil. But JJ wasn't much less. DD did everything right. The storytelling, characters buildup, the tension building, fightscenes, especially the fightscenes! I breezed through that first season.
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Dare Devil, but just barely.
I think the story for the first season of DD holds up better. I feel Jessica Jones had better acting, but only just. Jessica herself is a more flawed and relatable hero. The villain for JJ was far and away more scary, but that wasn't the story they were trying to tell with DD, so in a way, Fisk was a more appropriate villain.
I don't know, they're pretty equal actually. :lol
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I don't know, they're pretty equal actually. :lol
This is my view. Both are fantastic.
JJ for sure had the more terrifying villain, but that was kind of the point, whereas DD had the more relatable villain, which was also kind of the point. Both villains really perfectly fit the story and the characters.
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^ This guy gets it. With his coherent, non-rambling writing style.
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I don't know, they're pretty equal actually. :lol
This is my view. Both are fantastic.
JJ for sure had the more terrifying villain, but that was kind of the point, whereas DD had the more relatable villain, which was also kind of the point. Both villains really perfectly fit the story and the characters.
All of this.
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While I really liked Daredevil, I liked Jessica Jones more.
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(https://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i238/hefdaddy42/other/DD%20SEASON%202_zpsw13sttjx.jpg)
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So...he's gonna fight Spawn in season 2 as well? ???
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No, he just gets into some heavy S&M.
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No, he just gets into some heavy S&M.
So Spawn and a Metallica soundtrack?
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:lolpalm:
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How would Ghost Rider use his penance stare on a blind man?
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Penance fart. DD is fucked.
+ 10 for Ariich's post on DD and JJ comparison.
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I think DD was a more well crafted show, but JJ was not terribly far behind. The only weaknesses in JJ was the side plots and pacing.
But it's like comparing an A+ and an A-.
I'm looking forward to Luke Cage, and whenever they announce Iron Fist. However, one show I really wish they would bring to Netflix is Moon Knight. A modern Marvel movie tone wouldn't work with him, but damn would he thrive on Netflix, assuming the show is willing to go even darker with it and is based more on 2006 relaunch of the comics. Jesus that was some dark stuff.
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That I would really welcome. But damn, Netflix is showing some balls with these shows...
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I'm looking forward to Luke Cage, and whenever they announce Iron Fist. However, one show I really wish they would bring to Netflix is Moon Knight. A modern Marvel movie tone wouldn't work with him, but damn would he thrive on Netflix, assuming the show is willing to go even darker with it and is based more on 2006 relaunch of the comics. Jesus that was some dark stuff.
I'm not familiar with the 2006 relaunch (haven't been a comics reader in 15 years or so), but I'm a fan of the character dating all the way back his backup strip in Hulk! magazine in the late 70s, and I think he would be fantastically suited to Netflix.
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I'm looking forward to Luke Cage, and whenever they announce Iron Fist. However, one show I really wish they would bring to Netflix is Moon Knight. A modern Marvel movie tone wouldn't work with him, but damn would he thrive on Netflix, assuming the show is willing to go even darker with it and is based more on 2006 relaunch of the comics. Jesus that was some dark stuff.
I'm not familiar with the 2006 relaunch (haven't been a comics reader in 15 years or so), but I'm a fan of the character dating all the way back his backup strip in Hulk! magazine in the late 70s, and I think he would be fantastically suited to Netflix.
Yea, I haven't read much of him before the 2006 launch, but the last volume was pretty awful, so that's why I specified. The 2006 one involved him having visions of a guy with his face ripped off claiming to be his god. I doubt Netflix would go QUITE that dark.
However, I had the cool idea of Moon Knight (since he's all schizophrenic and what not) being torn between wanting to be a hero like the Avengers and hating himself for wanting it. Thus he would constantly hallucinate people like Iron Man and Captain America mocking him during his crime fighting, which drives him crazy. Obviously that won't happen since they're distancing the shows from the movies in a major way, but it would have been cool.
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https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=deadpool2016.htm
Deadpool is doing crazy numbers.
It's been out for just under two weeks and is nearly on $500m already. From a $58m production budget. ( I don't know if BoxOfficeMojo add in the promotional budget too ).
Is it just because it's something a bit different and out-and-out comedic for a change ?
Ant Man was slightly different and comedic - but then it didn't have the barrage of filth and foul language that I hear Deadpool has. . .
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Ant-Man was great but it was technically just another Marvel film. Deadpool has gone out of its way since day 1 (with the marketing) to show that this is something different. It rides that fine line of being a spoof (in the best ways) while still being a great film on its own. It's hard to find that balance of making fun of something, yet following the same sort of rules yourself.
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Deadpool also has something that a lot of comic book movies haven't had since Iron Man....authenticity.
This is a movie written purely out of love for the character. The writers, director and actors had 100% free reign to make the movie they wanted to make, and not try to make a movie based on corporate equations for reaping in profit. It didn't say "Must start at point A and then go to point B and end up at point C to qualify as a super hero film". It took chances and did whatever it wanted to do and really made a movie that centered around the characters, and not explosions, HUGENESS or trying to set up other films.
Deadpool isn't a hit because of the "filth" Koto, sorry. However, I assume the studios will see it the way you do, that people just wanted dirty jokes and foul language and end up ramping that up in other movies, when it will just be missing the point completely. This is one case where Marvel being owned by Disney is a good thing, they don't have the luxury of even attempting to get it wrong that way.
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I also think that, as great as a big shared cinematic universe is, a lot of people feel left out if they didn't get on the train when they hype took off. Deadpool is starting fresh, and you can go in having seen all superhero films so far, or you can go in completely fresh and this is your first superhero film, and you can really enjoy it either way, and you won't miss much. There are some cool references (Feige's pizza, the crashed helicarrier for example) that us hardcore fans will get, and laugh at, but there's also plenty of fun for the more casual fans.
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Why can't we enjoy both? Sometimes I want smart humor and sometimes fart jokes!
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Ant-Man was an average, stale film, and Deadpool was well written and it had charm.
This is a movie written purely out of love for the character.
Nailed it
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Ant-Man was one of the better Marvel-films, but Deadpool is so unique in the genre, and I would say it's fair to put it up there with the best superhero films so far.
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At least Deadpool and Ant-Man were pretty light.
Man of Steel was a bore fest and BatVSup looks even worse.
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It is mentally impossible for me to agree any more with what Adami said. But I loved the shit out of Ant-Man despite it's relative safe avenues and now standard Marvel affair. I enjoyed it a lot, more than I thought I would. It's simply that Deadpool is tonally the antithesis of most Marvel series in its humor, atmosphere, storytelling (this especially, for obvious reasons) and direction (which is to say there almost isn't one, which isn't a bad thing to me and certainly wasn't in the movie's case for aforementioned reasons Adami explained).
I just got back from seeing it. Loved every minute and it'll probably be the first movie in a long time that I see twice. Granted, I've got the excuse of going to see it with a friend who hasn't, otherwise I probably wouldn't but still; usually I'd just say no. :lol Great stuff. But yeah it's supremely vulgar and gross and awesome in the best of ways. Dave would hate it in every way, I'm gonna go out on a super thin limb and say. :P Which isn't to say I'm ragging. But it's certainly not some 'Ted' movie where it's there for shits and giggles and to appeal to the super awesome highschool kids. There's a rhyme and reason to it, even if people still don't like or agree with that reason. I thought it was the most accurate, fun, and still loyal hero storytelling yet.
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Man of Steel was a bore fest and BatVSup looks even worse.
Let me guess. Not enough jokes ;)
One Marvel movie that I am looking forward to the most over Civil War is Doctor Strange. Probably because I am not very familiar with the character, and I love Benedict Cumberbatch. Just saw this new set pic and he looks absolutely stellar
(https://mcuexchange.com/content/images/2016/02/CbvN286WwAAGjRU.jpg)
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Cumberbatch could die his hair pink, wear really thick hipster glasses with the lenses removed while dressed in a shit-brown leotard that has a kitty tail attached to it and he'd still be the most badass looking mofo around who oozes nothing but coolness and genius.
On that note, I'm really glad he doesn't look like that and they perfected his costume.
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Yup. Looks like Dr. Strange.
I will withhold any expectations or reservations until I've seen something more substantial. Although I like the character quite a bit, as well as Cumberbatch. I also like Thor and Hemsworth and don't care for either of those two movies all that much.
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I wasn't too hot on them either; I only mildly like Hemsworth though. To be fair, I'm pretty sure there's about a thousand other untapped, unheard of actors that could play Thor equally as well if not much better simply because...well, Thor is about as deep as a puddle. Some quirky one liners, a believable accent and the looks and you've got yourself Thor. Hemsworth is alright, but he is one of the few actors portraying a Marvel character that I'll probably not so much as bat an eye at when he inevitably passes the mantel to someone else. I'll be extremely sad when Downey Jr. leaves, and a little sad when Evans leaves...Hemsworth...eh. They'd have to not just drop the ball, but deflate it, melt it, and then dump it in a toilet to mess that casting up.
Before I forget, Hiddelston is another one I'll be sad to see go. Loki is the only reason I even liked the Thor movies at all. Also perving on Dennings. Though her character's sickeningly horrible one liners and near migraine inducing stupidity in the movies could ALMOST not make up for her immaculate bosom.
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I absolutely can't wait for Doctor Strange.
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I absolutely can't wait for Doctor Strange.
Cumberbatch has piqued my interest in it. He's amazing as Sherlock and i Loved him in Star Trek into Darkness even though he wasn't Khan.
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Yes he was. :lol
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I absolutely can't wait for Doctor Strange.
Cumberbatch has piqued my interest in it. He's amazing as Sherlock and i Loved him in Star Trek into Darkness even though he wasn't Khan.
He's amazing in everything he's been in.
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Yes he was. :lol
In name only.
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Was I the only one introduced to him in Starter for 10? Also my introduction to McAvoy, James Corden and Dominic Cooper.
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Was I the only one introduced to him in Starter for 10? Also my introduction to McAvoy, James Corden and Dominic Cooper.
Never heard of it, but that's a good cast.
Is it good?
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Was I the only one introduced to him in Starter for 10? Also my introduction to McAvoy, James Corden and Dominic Cooper.
Never heard of it, but that's a good cast.
Is it good?
Ummm, yea...I think it is. It's a small movie, about some college students trying to get on a quiz show. It's a pretty great cast. McAvoy plays a lovable, nerdy character with subtle sex-appeal, Cumberbatch plays the pompous overly uptight rigid Englishman, Dominic Cooper plays the womanizing badboy and Alice Eve plays the sex object.
So you get to see these actors way outside of their comfort zones.
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lol
I'll try to find it.
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Alice Eve ?
Khan and Carol :P
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Alice Eve ?
Khan and Carol :P
Yup, plus Professor X, Howard Stark, the chick from Iron Man 3 (Rebecca Hall) etc etc.
It's crazy watching some movies and noticing that everyone has been in a comic book movie.
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So you get to see these actors way outside of their comfort zones.
I lol'd
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Daredevil Season 2 Trailer Pt. 2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Cn3DVV0LHY)
I am sexually aroused right now.
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Trailer looks great. Looks like this season will be a lot more action packed and less broody.
On a related note, it looks like we finally have our Iron Fist.
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https://www.ew.com/article/2016/02/25/finn-jones-iron-fist?iid=sr-link1 (https://www.ew.com/article/2016/02/25/finn-jones-iron-fist?iid=sr-link1)
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He's a fine actor. If that's really the choice, I'm sure he will do a fine job.
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I liked Part 1 more than Part 2, but it was another great trailer. This looks so good, and I can't believe it's dropping soon. For whatever reason it took me by surprise that this is actually coming out in a few weeks.
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I know, right?
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I'm trying to put into words how excited I am for new Daredevil, and I'm failing miserably. I watched season 1 within 48 hours, I'll be surprised if season 2 lasts 24.
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So, Agent Carter season 2 ended last night and firmly solidified it as my least favorite MCU property. I mean, I think it was before too, but at least after season 1 I was kinda on board with the concept.
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Rumor going around that the Netflix Iron Fist show will also feature Shang-Chi (the Master of Kung-Fu).
I don't know about the rest of you mofos, but that is awesome news for me. I hope it's true. I LOVED that character back in the 70s. If they keep his original outfit, I swear I will scream with giddiness (even though I realize it looks more like a karate gi than a kung-fu uniform).
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Deadpool f'in' ROCKED!! :metal
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Deadpool f'in' ROCKED!! :metal
Yes it did. Can't wait for the next one.
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Nice 30 second DD trailer yesterday as well. Gonna be sweet!
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Seriously can't wait for Daredevil, coming home next Friday and just marathoning most, if not all of it.
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Rumors going around that a new Civil War trailer will drop tomorrow that will feature a large dose of a certain webbed wallcrawler.
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Rumors going around that a new Civil War trailer will drop tomorrow that will feature a large dose of a certain webbed wallcrawler.
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Eh, I'm actually against that.
The movie already looks amazing and brilliant. I can't imagine too many people still on the fence about it. I think showing Spiderman will just be laying all your cards on the table. I think it's good to hold on to him until the movie. No images, or anything. Make it all fresh.
Kind of like the whole Hulkbuster thing in Avengers. Probably would have been best to keep that close to the vest until it's on screen.
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Yeah, everything I heard was that the original plan was to keep him under wraps until the release date.
Maybe they found out about an impending leak? Or were getting worried about one?
Or maybe it's a shot against DC, since BvS is getting so much press right now? I mean, I hope it's not that.
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Spider-man would be an amazing surprise saved for the theaters, but I still want to see him now. As long as they don't pull a BvS and give us a trailer spoiling the whole damn movie.
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Yeah, everything I heard was that the original plan was to keep him under wraps until the release date.
Maybe they found out about an impending leak? Or were getting worried about one?
Or maybe it's a shot against DC, since BvS is getting so much press right now? I mean, I hope it's not that.
I mean, they should let DC have this time. The movie comes out in 16 days. They don't need to be in the news every day till May. Once Batman comes out, come like mid April, and the buzz is gone, then Marvel can amp up the advertisement. I would just hate to see them do to this movie what they did to Avengers 2 and put most of the movie out before it's released. Seriously, the 200000 TV spots for Avengers 2 was pretty much the whole movie.
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Agreed... I think between all the web-featurettes, TV spots, and official trailers, I think there was like 18-20 minutes of the movie out before it was even released. I vowed to never dig too much into a movie again. Official trailers only.
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The post credits scene of Civil War should be a surprise cameo of JK Simmons as Jameson with a setup for the Spider-man movie. Or there should just be a surprise cameo in the movie.
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The post credits scene of Civil War should be a surprise cameo of JK Simmons as Jameson with a setup for the Spider-man movie. Or there should just be a surprise cameo in the movie.
I do wonder where they can go with the post credits scene for this one. My guess would be Thanos playing with a yoyo while blowing a bubble with his gum, or possibly Thanos staring melancholic at an hour glass, tapping on the top of it to make the sand move faster. Or, I'll be cool with Thanos staring at his cell phone in anticipation saying "Come on Feige!!!"
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I think we'll get one Dr.Strange scene and one setting up Infinity War.
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I see you Spider-man....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKrVegVI0Us
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That better be the last trailer. And I hope they don't show another 20 minutes of tv spots. It's getting a bit much. That said, spidey sure looks like spidey.
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That is fantastic.
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Giddy up!
And I agree with Adami... I don't think I'm gonna watch anything else that comes out. Three 2 min trailers is just enough.
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Looks pretty amazing.
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This trailer was amazing even before the ending, but seeing Spider-Man made my day. I will say, I think Black Panther is gonna steal the thunder in this film. He looks AWESOME.
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This trailer was amazing even before the ending, but seeing Spider-Man made my day. I will say, I think Black Panther is gonna steal the thunder in this film. He looks AWESOME.
I agree.
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The Russo Brothers are sure making a name for themselves these days.
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I'm actually a bit mad that I'm having Spider-Man force-spoiled for me on every site I go, and I haven't even seen the damn trailer.
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So stoked about Spider-Man except.....I don't like the suit :(
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So stoked about Spider-Man except.....I don't like the suit :(
It looks like classic Spider-Man!
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I don't see anything wrong with this:
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Had the chance to watch the trailer a few more times. Some thoughts.
1. This movie looks...........amazing. It's the rare case where I went in rooting for Cap, but then seeing how far his team is taking things, I might be switching to team Iron Man. Dunno. But I love how balanced the playing field is. Both are relatable, neither are stereotypical.
2. The small details are great. Cap saying "I can do this all day" or him looking at Scarlet Witch when they show the Sakovia footage. Just nice touches.
3. Black Panther looks insane. Him running down the motorcycle or just standing there while being hit with bullets was awesome.
4. Antman on the arrow was great, looking forward to see what weird stuff he adds.
5. Spiderman looks good. Very simple. I was hoping they wouldn't show him, but with the amount of discussion likely and currently happening on his costume, better to get that sorted before the movie comes out. However, they introduced him perfectly. Quick 5 second spot and a cute "hey everyone". Nailed it.
Over all,super pumped about this. Probably most excited I've ever been for a movie.
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I guess my issues with it is that it looks out of place, and luckily I'm not crazy because I just spoke to several people who shared my view. Just not aesthetically pleasing to what they are trying to sell with this movie. Brightness to symbolize the youth and innocence in an intense and dark...blah blah blah. Still looks out of place to me. I'm also not sold on the motorized eyes, but this is probably (and hopefully) the Stark issued Spidey suit that followers of the Civil War comics know about, just a different design. That being said, i'm not judging the book by its cover because I'm very excited for Spider-Man to be part of this universe (hopefully he'll swing in one of the Netflix Defenders shows).
The movie looks good, and I have faith in the Russo's. I think I'm the biggest critic of Age of Ultron and Ant-Man here so far (besides Kingsman, 2015 was just a bad year for Comic Book flicks), so i'm just excited for the Russo's to bring the MCU back on its feet.
3. Black Panther looks insane. Him running down the motorcycle or just standing there while being hit with bullets was awesome.
This. I can't fucking wait to see him in action
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The Iron Spider suit? I doubt they're ever going to put that in a movie, though it would be interesting.
And sadly I also doubt anyone from the MCU will ever show up on a Netflix show. Seems to be too much bad blood between the TV head and Feige. Real shame too. I had a great idea for a Moon Knight show that could have smaller roles for Stark and Rogers.
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I don't think the door is completely shut for MCU interaction with the Netflix shows, but I doubt you'll see Spidey there.
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Mike Coulter announced at the Daredevil Season 2 Premiere last night that Luke Cage is dropping on September 30th. :metal
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That suit is fucking amazing. Total call-back and nod to the old school yet has some added flare and style. Perfect. I don't mind the 'spoil' given that it was a glimpse and didn't show anything else, but even if they release more trailers that show even more (which I think would be a mistake), that's all I'm watching. I'm done until the movie comes out. The hype is just enough so that I'm excited and expecting a lot out of this film but I don't think I'll be disappointed by it nor do I want the hype to lower by having more of the movie shown to me. Even this was pretty restrained in comparison to the vast majority of other trailers for movies, especially with superhero flicks, and that is some sad shit. This is how it's done. I could've gone without seeing Spidey. It would've been difficult though. Quite honestly I was worried they'd fuck it up. Marvel isn't perfect despite most of the rabid fan boys' declarations, so I'm glad to see they're honoring the old ways while making it their own. Loved the one liner as well.
I am so ready for Civil War. Hashtag Team Spidey. Hashtag no social media. Hashtag DTF media. Hashtag #.
I am EXTREMELY interested in if they explain the moving eyes. Deadpool? Totally understandable. This? Eehhhh... I like it, don't get me wrong. But I'm not going to act like it's not completely out of place because it really, really is. I'm not going to care in the end, but I'd love it if there were some funny explanation as to why (in that same regard, I kind of want them to not say anything at all about it). I'm having a hard time thinking of what that explanation would be, though, funny or serious... "Yeah, I felt like making the eyes conform to my emotion". "I thought the suit needed some personality"... Hmm... :huh: :millahhhh
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I don't think the eyes should be a big deal, his eyes have always "moved" in the comics to show expression and I think it's cool to bring that to motion picture Spidey.
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I don't think the eyes should be a big deal, his eyes have always "moved" in the comics to show expression and I think it's cool to bring that to motion picture Spidey.
Exactly.
The suit looks like almost a combination of Alex Ross's take and John Romita Sr.'s take. In other words, glorious.
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Considering we have gotten 2 versions of Spider-Man with the "dead eyes", it makes sense to go with the animated eyes just to separate it even more.
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I suppose.
The mention of the comic book is irrelevant. If we're going that route, we can all type up essays on what is and is not in the comics or what is done differently. It just felt a little out of place but like I said, I like it and really don't care but think it'd be funny if there was a joking nod to how or why it's done, that's all.
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Civil War will be 2 hours 26 minutes.
Do these movies all have to be so long ?
Especially since Captain America 4 and 5 and 6 are ( most likely ) coming too.
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Civil War will be 2 hours 26 minutes.
Do these movies all have to be so long ?
Yes.
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Has Hef got the day off ?
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Some movies 2 1/2 hours and more go by so fast. Depending on the movie itself.
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I like the long movies. With all I've heard about Civil War, it feels like it will totaly deserve that length.
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Does Ant-Man need to be 2.5 hours long? No.
Does a movie with 10 or so superheroes need to be 2.5 hours long? ............yes. I have no idea why is even being argued.
Avengers 2 (minus credits) was only a little over 2 hours and everyone (including me) complained that the movie was too rushed.
Lots of characters and lots of story generally requires longer running time.
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Yeah there's nothing wrong about Civil War and BvS being 2 ½ hours long at all. If it's just a stand-alone film or origin-film, 2 hours is the sweet spot, but when it's more of a event film, I think 2 ½ is good.
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Has Hef got the day off ?
What was this for?
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Has Hef got the day off ?
What was this for?
Now playing the role of Hef, Adami.
At least he thought his comment was very Hef like.
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Has Hef got the day off ?
What was this for?
Now playing the role of Hef, Adami.
At least he thought his comment was very Hef like.
Oh, the "Yes"?
I usually only do a one-word answer if the answer is "No."
But in this case, the answer is clearly "Yes."
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Yes.
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I suppose.
The mention of the comic book is irrelevant. If we're going that route, we can all type up essays on what is and is not in the comics or what is done differently. It just felt a little out of place but like I said, I like it and really don't care but think it'd be funny if there was a joking nod to how or why it's done, that's all.
I hope they just kinda nod to it, then blow it off:
"How do your eyes do that?"
"Do what?"
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Don't anyone (Hef) give me crap about this not being Marvel Studios.
New X-Men trailer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfBVIHgQbYk
Very much looking forward to this one.
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lol
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lol
:alwayswatching:
;D
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I want to be excited. I really do. I loved Days of Future Past. But this really just seems like lots of generic destruction, tension and explosions. I can't find anything there about which to be excited. Especially after Deadpool and the Civil War trailer or suicide squad. It'll probably on a level with BvS.
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I suppose.
The mention of the comic book is irrelevant. If we're going that route, we can all type up essays on what is and is not in the comics or what is done differently. It just felt a little out of place but like I said, I like it and really don't care but think it'd be funny if there was a joking nod to how or why it's done, that's all.
I hope they just kinda nod to it, then blow it off:
"How do your eyes do that?"
"Do what?"
Perfect. That would be amazing and also very Spidey-like.
Also very much with Adami. I couldn't be more indifferent towards this movie and I'll be extremely surprised if I like it even half as much as DoFP. It seems like the inevitable phoned in superhero flick before it peters out. But hey, I'll get to watch Olivia Munn in what amounts to really great cosplay (still sour on Apocalypse and think he looks worse than some cosplay, sans CGI) so that's a plus. I just won't be seeing it in the theater, that's for damn sure.
HYYYYYPE for dat Daredevil tonight/tomorrow!!!! I'll definitely at least start it tonight but I have to be up early so I'll have to reign myself in after episode 1. I fucking love binging so much. It needs to be the new standard of release. Fuck waiting a week plus. :lol
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I don't know about you two but the last 2 X-Men movies are so much better than the original 3 so I'm looking forward to the 3rd in this run.
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Oh absolutely, by miles and miles. But this new one reminded me a whoooole lot of the first three than it did bringing up feelings of FC or DoFP. It just feels like it's half-assed. Like Adami, I really want to be excited for it but it's just not there because it looks so generic and "here's some superhero action and a big-name antagonist". From the get-go it's been like that, ever since the first few images were shown. I would really love to have my opinion changed though! Unless it turns out that critical and fan acclaim is high after it releases, I'll have to wait till it's out On Demand to see it though.
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I want to see First Class simply because i've heard the CGI is appalling :lol
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I don't know about you two but the last 2 X-Men movies are so much better than the original 3 so I'm looking forward to the 3rd in this run.
I'm somewhere in between. 1&2 were fan-fucking-tastic; I enjoyed 3 despite it's flaws; 1st Class and DoFP were excellent. Trailer wasn't anywhere as good as Civil War, but it was certainly miles better than BvS.
2>1=DoFP>1st Class>3
I fully expect this one to be on par with DoFP and/or 1st Class. If it's better, great. I can totally see how the trailer makes it feel more like 3 - especially with it looking so close to the final battle of 3.
Nonetheless, I have complete faith that Singer knows how to make a great X-Men movie.
I want to see First Class simply because i've heard the CGI is appalling :lol
Is there ANYTHING that you don't come in and shit on? Here, let me cue up the emot I'm sure you're about to use:
:emo:
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Most threads actually.
I'm pretty sure I said I liked The Winter Soldier. And Avengers Assemble. And Ant Man and Guardians of The Galaxy. And the first three X - Men films.
Just said i'd like to see First Class because the CG is supposed to be really bad and that would be entertaining in itself. :dunno:
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There is some average CGI in First Class, not as bad as Wolverine: Origins though. I'm excited for Apocalypse mainly because Days of Future Past was one of the best superhero films, and First Class was pretty great too.
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I don't know about you two but the last 2 X-Men movies are so much better than the original 3 so I'm looking forward to the 3rd in this run.
Not so sure. I mean, obviously better than the third one (the turd one). But a lot of the things I didn't like about the first three haven't been changed or improved upon in the last two. So it's basically a series that, for me, hasn't lived up to its full potential. For which I find fault with Fox, a studio which I am convinced doesn't quite know what it's doing, but still gets lucky every once in a while.
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It probably didn't help that I was exhausted when I went to see Days Of Future Past but I didn't enjoy it as much as other people...
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The only trailer I've seen for Apocalypse is the post credit scene of DoFP, and based on that I'm excited.
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I don't know about you two but the last 2 X-Men movies are so much better than the original 3 so I'm looking forward to the 3rd in this run.
Not so sure. I mean, obviously better than the third one (the turd one). But a lot of the things I didn't like about the first three haven't been changed or improved upon in the last two. So it's basically a series that, for me, hasn't lived up to its full potential. For which I find fault with Fox, a studio which I am convinced doesn't quite know what it's doing, but still gets lucky every once in a while.
The second X-Men movie I really liked. The first one was ok. I agree with the 3rd, it is not good. The last 2 were very good at least to me. If anything I wish Matthew Vaughn continued directing instead of Singer.
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The only trailer I've seen for Apocalypse is the post credit scene of DoFP, and based on that I'm excited.
Here you go.
New X-Men trailer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfBVIHgQbYk
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Oh, I know there are new trailers, I just don't watch them anymore. But thanks.
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I'm very torn on First Class. There were parts that are just amazing and brilliant. The whole Nazi scenes were incredible, especially the bar scene.
McAvoy and Fassbender both nail the roles. Beast is................okay, Hoult is super charming. I hate Jennifer Lawrence as Mystique, and I have no idea why she's even in these movies. She's not a lead character. She's not the leader of the X-Men. She's a sociopathic henchmen who has turned into a megalomaniac. Their version of her has almost no resemblance to the comics. Plus I just can't stand Jennifer Lawrence, with the exception of Silver Linings Playbook. Also Kevin Bacon was a super cool bad guy.
Beyond that, the rest of the hellfire club was awful. Emma Frost was a joke, as was that devil dude who had like 1 line. The new X-Men were awful as well. The butterfly girl, Havoc, and so forth. I liked Darwin, but of course they killed him off.
The plot was good, and I was entertained. Just didn't like the majority of the characters.
Also........Moira McTagert? Why? She's a Scottish nurse, not an American CIA agent. Why not name her like Linda Jones or something? It wouldn't have made an ounce of difference. X-Men just has a tendency to use as many "names" as possible without caring whether or not those names bare any resemblance to their actual characters.
Although the most recent major offense for this was Whitney Frost in Agent Carter. They had NOTHING in common other than something on their face and their name.
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I didn't even know there was an actual Marvel character named Whitney Frost.
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I'm very torn on First Class. There were parts that are just amazing and brilliant. The whole Nazi scenes were incredible, especially the bar scene.
McAvoy and Fassbender both nail the roles. Beast is................okay, Hoult is super charming. I hate Jennifer Lawrence as Mystique, and I have no idea why she's even in these movies. She's not a lead character. She's not the leader of the X-Men. She's a sociopathic henchmen who has turned into a megalomaniac. Their version of her has almost no resemblance to the comics. Plus I just can't stand Jennifer Lawrence, with the exception of Silver Linings Playbook. Also Kevin Bacon was a super cool bad guy.
Beyond that, the rest of the hellfire club was awful. Emma Frost was a joke, as was that devil dude who had like 1 line. The new X-Men were awful as well. The butterfly girl, Havoc, and so forth. I liked Darwin, but of course they killed him off.
The plot was good, and I was entertained. Just didn't like the majority of the characters.
Also........Moira McTagert? Why? She's a Scottish nurse, not an American CIA agent. Why not name her like Linda Jones or something? It wouldn't have made an ounce of difference. X-Men just has a tendency to use as many "names" as possible without caring whether or not those names bare any resemblance to their actual characters.
Although the most recent major offense for this was Whitney Frost in Agent Carter. They had NOTHING in common other than something on their face and their name.
Agreed on much of this. For the bolded, blame Fox. At least the MCU connects the characters and the names pretty well. However, for all of !st Class's short-comings, it's strengths more than over-compensate.
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Their version of her has almost no resemblance to the comics.
Hey, you just successfully described Fox's relationship with Marvel Comics.
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Their version of her has almost no resemblance to the comics.
Hey, you just successfully described Fox's relationship with Marvel Comics.
:lol
But yeah... pretty much.
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Magneto's whole "rage and serenity" thing from First Class is pretty great too.
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I fully expected the majority of the characters to be half-assed going in and was pleasantly surprised for most of them so I suppose that had a big influence on me not minding their portrayal. Also, like Hef said, they really could not go any lower and had nowhere to go but up as it was. I really loved the main characters and the direction so it was mostly a win for me. I cannot honestly say that I noticed the CGI being anywhere near 'bad', but maybe I just need to watch it again, it's been quite a while. As far as most films go, especially action flicks, I can't possibly imagine it is anywhere near being in the realm of the worst offenders. (Sup, Green Lantern?)
I gotta say though, unless they screw up Magneto and Xavier, who I'm pretty much just watching these movies for, it's going to be a win in my book. Also more Quicksilver cannot possibly be bad with how beautiful his DoFP fleeting scene was.
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Quicksilver was best scene in Days Of Future Past other than Magneto lifting the entire stadium.
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Quicksilver was best scene in Days Of Future Past other than Magneto lifting the entire stadium.
That was the only part of DOFP I really didn't like. Not Quicksilver, that was awesome. The ending scene in the past was just meh. Why did Magneto lift a stadium? I literally cannot fathom a motivation other than "THIS IS BIG AND STUFF" and that's motivation on the film makers. Then what happens? They have a stand off and everyone just says "screw it" and walks away? Meh.
The future climax was good, and everything up to that stadium scene was good. Meh, luckily the good stuff was so good that I don't let the bad stuff bother me much.
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I mean...that totally makes sense inside the film even if it still makes sense out. A display of power is a pretty common strategic move (both in real life and in movies, for what that's worth); end the battle before it even begins on the off chance you let it be known that they have no chance of winning (or so the line of thinking goes). I suppose if you're looking for some deeper meaning, yeah, it's not there but...it definitely had 'meaning' as far as the validity of the scene goes.
Again though, I haven't seen the movie in a hot minute so maybe I'm remembering it differently.
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I guess. I just didn't get it. Just seemed silly.
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I agree with Adami, the stadium thing was impressive, but pointless. Again, nailing Fox's approach to their superhero films.
I thought that Quicksilver's material was far and away the best part of that film.
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Watched the first few episodes from season 2 of daredevil this morning. Its off to a great start so far. Its also shaping up to be more violent than the first season.
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Daredevil season 2 came out at the perfect time for me.
My daughter just went to her mom for the weekend, and Im at home sick with the flu. I've watched 10 episodes in 13 hours!!! :omg:
What a show.. I'll comment in greater detail when Im finished.
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I've only watched the first 4 episodes, but it's really good so far. Punisher is the best part I think, and you can tell this season is gonna be great.
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I am so hyped to start this shit tonight!! I wasn't able to last night like I wanted due to immense fatigue but I am totally binging this shit tonight. Nothing to do tomorrow but relax and enjoy the day so I might even pull an all nighter depending on how much coffee I drink at the meeting tonight, which I'm about to go to... Woot wooooot!
So power. So energy.
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jingle.son and I took in the 1st two episodes. Excellent start. Can't wait for #3 and their conversation.
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No spoilers in the post below.
Halfway through episode 9 and I'm solidified in the opinion that this is the best thing Marvel has ever done. So fucking fantastic in every way. Everyone is amazing and I have enjoyed Bernthal's performance SOOOOOO much more than I thought I would. By miles. He's turned the Punisher into something much more interesting than I thought he would. I mean, even though the character isn't the deepest personality in the comic book world, he's still got a pretty wide range of emotions and motivations despite the seemingly shallow exterior that hasn't even been touched upon in anything film related (for as much as I did enjoy the cheese-dripping Thomas Jane version). But this is some good stuff right here.
I'll be surprised if I don't finish it tonight. Friggin' GRRRRRRREAT!
...I did not mean to Tony the Tiger that shit up. But it is great.
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Finished. Yep. Best Marvel production ever. Glorious.
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Bernthal really deserves more credit than he's been getting in the last few years. We all knew he could play a tough guy, but there are certain scenes, like the ending of episode 4 (which I won't spoil what happens) where he gives a really emotional performance that made my eyes slightly moist. The strength of the Netflix universe so far is that the characters are all very human, and Punisher really fits that bill along side Matt Murdock and Jessica Jones. I really hope he gets his own show, and I hope he returns to help the Defenders in that show. :)
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Just finished season 2. Without any spoilers, I like it a lot better than season 1. I also love Daredevil's new mask a lot more than when he first got to wear the horns at the end of season 1. The Punisher gave the entire a season a lot of heft. They really need to make his own show. And I agree, I hope he returns for The Defenders.
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I'm only 2 episodes in. I am already in love with this season.
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I haven't started DD yet. Just got around to finishing Agent Carter this weekend. What a great series. It might be my favorite thing Marvel has done thus far, movies or tv. But looking forward to starting DD soon. It is awesome that Marvel has so many great series going.
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Don't think I like the new season of DD quite as much as season 1, but it was still pretty great. Frank Castle >>>
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Netflix has done it again. This season was phenomenal. I hope they give Punisher his own series.
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I'm only five episodes in, but holy crap! Totally hooked! :metal
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Agents of SHIELD was a little sad last night.
Hopefully Most Wanted gets a pickup.
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I really enjoyed DD up through about episode seven... and was prepared to call it the best thing in the Marvel universe. Then episode eight and nine traumatized me and I'm not sure if I have enough interest left to finish it.
I'll give it a few days and see how I feel.
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nvm.
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Really? they showed sucking d...? ;)
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So after Phase 3 has finished - are Marvel just going to keep making more MCU movies ?
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So after Phase 3 has finished - are Marvel just going to keep making more MCU movies ?
Yes
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Agents of SHIELD was a little sad last night.
For the most part just an OK, episode, but it got a little dusty in my basement during the bar scene at the end.
So after Phase 3 has finished - are Marvel just going to keep making more MCU movies ?
Only if they like making money.
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So after Phase 3 has finished - are Marvel just going to keep making more MCU movies ?
Why not?
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That kinda means that no franchise story will ever truly "end".
I guess it's gonna be like serialised fiction but instead of a TV show - it's movies.
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That kinda means that no franchise story will ever truly "end".
Well, the world doesn't end. It keeps going.
The MCU is a cinematic world, encapsulating many connected franchises. At the end of Phase 3, we may not (and probably won't) get any more Iron Man films, or Thor films, or maybe even Captain America films. But that doesn't mean there won't be room for more Guardians of the Galaxy films, or Ant-Man films. And at that point, Captain Marvel, Black Panther, Doctor Strange, and the Inhumans will have only had the first film in each of those franchises, so they could continue on as long as there is a demand for them. Not to mention the new Spider-Man franchise being started by Marvel and Sony.
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They'll stop making them when there's no more profit. It would only be stupid to stop making movies if they can spend 200 million dollars and make 4-5 times that.
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That kinda means that no franchise story will ever truly "end".
I guess it's gonna be like serialised fiction but instead of a TV show - it's movies.
Kinda like how comic books have been going for 50+ years.
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I never would have made the connection.
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I never would have made the connection.
You amaze me every day.
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I do what I can.
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Finished DD season 2 last night, great stuff again! Think I prefer the first seasons of DD and JJ as they felt a bit more focussed - there was a lot going on in DD2. Some really amazing stuff though, especially Frank Castle.
Will post more details soon but don't want to spoil anything for those not caught up.
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I just gotta say that the prison scene in episode nine is totally bananas, in the best possible way :eek
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I really love DD s2, but the show needs to move away from fight scenes in hallways. The one in s1 was great, and it was the part that hooked me, but we don't need to revisit that scene again.
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I liked both hallway scenes but I agree. The idea of fighting in a small space is intriguing, but there are other places they could go. It would also be interesting to see him fight something else than just normal thugs or ninjas. Maybe as part of Kingpin's return, he manages to frame Daredevil for something and the police is after Daredevil. Maybe they manage to corner him in the subway or something and he has to escape while fighting cops. I mention cops as an example because when he is fighting thugs or ninjas, a lot of the time he just fights them in order to defeat them. If he fights good guys (like cops) in a situation where they are chasing him and he has to escape, there would be more stakes involved and could make for something interesting. If they wanna go the one-take route, I could see a cool subway scene where the camera follows him as he tries to escape with cops coming in from everywhere.
Maybe a lame idea but it was just an idea I had.
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Totally digging S2 so far, on Ep 4 now. Punisher is just ridiculously good.
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Just finished DD2. I thought it was great once again.
Just got around to finishing Agent Carter this weekend. What a great series. It might be my favorite thing Marvel has done thus far, movies or tv.
u srs?
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I really like Agent Carter, though I defintely thought season 1 was quite a bit stronger than season 2.
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I thought season 1 was alright, but season 2 was just plain bad.
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I enjoyed season 1 of AC, but even then I thought it was the least of Marvel's output.
I only caught the first two episodes of season 2, and felt they were a big step down. The way I understand it, the future of the series is still up in the air, so unless it gets renewed for a third season, I may not even finish out the rest of season 2.
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I really liked season 1 of Carter. I thought the writing, acting, story etc were all pretty strong. I'd put on the same level as Agents of Shield (after it got good), but lower than any of the Netflix shows.
Season 2 though I only finished because I'm a completionist. Jarvis and Carter had excellent chemistry as always, but beyond that I really struggled to like much. The story was just....I don't know, just felt random mostly. They ruined a perfectly good villiant in Madame Masque and it went from a mostly serious tone to a more 60's slapstick tone similar to the 66' Batman.
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Ooo, that sounds unfortunate. I may just write that one off.
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Ooo, that sounds unfortunate. I may just write that one off.
I wouldn't. It just wasn't my taste. Others loved it and you might too.
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It's definitely less my taste too, but I'm still enjoying it plenty. We've got one episode to go here in the UK.
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I kind of didn't bother with Agent Carter season 2. I liked season 1 okay, but didn't think it was anything special—if it hadn't been Marvel, I wouldn't have cared at all. So after I missed the first couple of episodes of season 2, I couldn't be bothered to catch up and decided to just wait for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. to return. Sounds like I didn't miss anything too amazing.
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You did. It was amazing.
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You did. It was amazing.
Can I ask what you thought was so amazing? I ask because I am not a person who enjoys disliking things. I loved season 1, and I love the characters of Carter, Jarvis, Stark, Soosa, that other agent who is a dick at times, Mrs. Jarvis etc. I even liked Whitney Frost, despite her being Whitney Frost in name only. I was super excited for it, but just felt it was too silly and light. That might be my fault since season 1 just set up a different tone. Not sure.
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Can I ask what you thought was so amazing?
Sure. A lot of it has to do with the fact that it was
silly and light
...which is an attribute that I feel has gone neglected. Serious is fine. But it seems like most of the Marvel franchises have just been trying to push the envelope too hard to hit the audience over the head with subtle sex, as much pointless profanity as possible without crossing over into R-rating, and sixth grade humor that rather than making me nostalgic for the Marvel universe of Marvel's golden age, it just comes across as more of the same of everything else that is out there. Carter was mostly just...clean fun. It was a nice little adventure that I could sit back and enjoy without feeling like it was trying too hard to be dark, cool, or edgy. It just is what it is.
On another note, I do get your frustration about the Whitney Frost issue. I didn't know that character, so that didn't hit me the same way it hit you.
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Serious is fine. But it seems like most of the Marvel franchises have just been trying to push the envelope too hard to hit the audience over the head with subtle sex, as much pointless profanity as possible without crossing over into R-rating, and sixth grade humor that rather than making me nostalgic for the Marvel universe of Marvel's golden age, it just comes across as more of the same of everything else that is out there.
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Sorry, boss, not getting that at all.
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Yeah, me neither. All Marvel movies have been pretty silly and comedic lately. In Agent Carter it just went overboard.
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Hey gang.
So I watched The Winter Soldier on NETFLIX recently and I liked that. Thor The Dark World is on there too. Is that any good ? I may watch it tonight.
If I do - i've very nearly seen all of Phase 1 & 2 beside Avengers 2 and Iron man 3.
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I'm surprised we haven't seen any box sets for the movies so far like
PHASE 1 boxset
Iron Man
The Incredible Hulk
Iron Man 2
Thor
Captain America
The Avengers
PHASE 2 boxset
Iron Man 3
Thor 2
Captain America 2
Guardians Of The Galaxy
Avengers 2
Ant Man
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I liked The Dark World well enough. Better than the first Thor movie in my opinion. Some things don't make any sense, but hey it's just Marvel.
Iron Man 3 is shite though.
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I'm surprised we haven't seen any box sets for the movies so far like
PHASE 1 boxset
Iron Man
The Incredible Hulk
Iron Man 2
Thor
Captain America
The Avengers
PHASE 2 boxset
Iron Man 3
Thor 2
Captain America 2
Guardians Of The Galaxy
Avengers 2
Ant Man
There are, in fact, such box sets of the blu-rays.
If you liked the first Thor film, you'll probably like the sequel. For me, the Thor films are the lowest-ranking franchise for Marvel so far.
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I hated Iron Man 2. Not fussed about 3 but i'll watch it eventually. Heard Avengers 2 is not as good as the first one but i'll see it eventually.
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I like Avengers 2 more than the first one.
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If you liked the first Thor film, you'll probably like the sequel. For me, the Thor films are the lowest-ranking franchise for Marvel so far.
Agreed on all of that. But they are still plenty good.
And you should get around to Iron Man 3. Most of the complaint surrounding it seem to come from purists who were not happy about a certain character twist. I would see it before seeing the second Avengers. A lot of stuff that is going on in Tony's head that is really relevant for Avengers 2 and Civil War is really laid out in Iron Man 3.
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Most of the complaint surrounding it seem to come from purists who were not happy about a certain character twist.
I am one of those not happy with that, but I have never read an Iron Man comic book in my life, so in my eyes it's less about staying true to the comics and more about just bad story telling. Having a twist just for the hell of it when just not doing that would've been so much better.
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Really? I thought the twist suited the story perfectly and took it up a notch from the typical straightforward "good guy vs. bad guy" storyline. Very nice bit of misdirection, if you ask me.
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Yeah IM3 was great, big step up from IM2.
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Really? I thought the twist suited the story perfectly and took it up a notch from the typical straightforward "good guy vs. bad guy" storyline. Very nice bit of misdirection, if you ask me.
I agree. I understand why some fans wouldn't like the twist happening, but I thought it was done very well. In fact, I thought IM3 was fantastic.
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Few comments.
First, not all Marvel movies are silly and comedic (though they are compared to the DC movies). Winter Soldier was far from silly.
Thor movies.....are pretty meh. Luckily Hemsworth has a ton of charisma and so does Hiddelston, they tend to save it. The second movie is a bit of a mess trying to set up Infinity Wars and not really evoking any other responses since it's just so overdone.
****IRON MAN 3 SPOILERS****
IM3 had a really great first 2/3. I didn't mind the Mandarin thing, though it was kind of dumb. My main problem was the Extemis thing in general. The bad guy breathes fire? They're indestructible except when they're not? It was just wholly inconsistent. The big battle at the end was just a bunch of visual noise and I couldn't care. A bunch of empty suits fighting henchmen we've never seen? Why would I care about any of that? And then turning Pepper Potts into a near indestructible being? Meh. And her clothing is apparently fire proof too.
Like I said, the first 2/3 are great. Loved it. Just lost it at the last third.
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Sorry for editing your post for you, but since Kowtow said he hadn't seen it, and you gave away what I was deliberately being cagey about so as not to spoil it for him, I felt a spoiler tag was much needed.
****more spoilers****
I hear you about the final battle. But, really, is that much different than any big battle scene? I mean, it is almost always lots of unknown minions vs. lots of unknown minions, with the few key players you actually care about duking it out for something much bigger that is at stake. I didn't really feel like this was much different. You are right that the emotion isn't in that. But it creates tension behind the emotion that derives from Tony vs. Mandarin, Tony trying to save Pepper, and Rhodes saving the president. Right? :dunno:
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So sorry about the spoilers. My bad.
****MORE IM3 SPOILERS*****
However, in this case I didn't care about either side fighting. At least in Avengers movies, I care about the Avengers. In this case both sides were just meh. I think that's the main difference. The rest of the movie was on such a smaller personal level, I wish the ending had kept that tone. I mean, he goes from building stuff form stuff from Home Depot to having 50 empty suits that were never even hinted at before, fighting independently. We're supposed to buy that Stark was controlling all of them mentally while doing his own fighting? I Just didn't buy it. Felt like the studio said "WE WANT BIG EXPLOSIONS AT THE END AND LOTS OF STUFF".
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I totally agree with bosk and hef on Iron Man 3. I can understand why fans of the comic wouldn't be too keen on the twist, but in terms of sheer storytelling, it was a good movie, probably in the top half of Marvel movies for me. I do somewhat agree with Adami, though, that the last third could have been better, especially since the first two thirds were so refreshingly personal.
Bosk, if the opportunity ever arises to see Agent Carter season 2, I will, if only for the sake of completion and because I found at least one person who I know is a Marvel fan who found it to be worthwhile (seriously, I often disagree with popular opinion, so if one person finds something really good, that's enough to pique my interest even if it doesn't look great). Obviously with it now off the air that may not happen, but I will if the opportunity arises.
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Iron Man 3 is amazing. I actually applauded the twist because it corresponds with the postmodern idea od the spectacle and simulation, which a lot of terrorists actually engage in. It's not a stupid plot twist.
As for the final battle scene, Tony is not controlling the suits. They all have some sort of intelligent programming, the same reason why Tony Stark has good fighting skills when he is IM. A lot of those are programmed in the armor.
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***SPOILERS SERIOUSLY KOTOW GO WATCH THIS MOVIE SO I CAN STOP PUTTING THIS***
Iron Man 3 is amazing. I actually applauded the twist because it corresponds with the postmodern idea od the spectacle and simulation, which a lot of terrorists actually engage in. It's not a stupid plot twist.
As for the final battle scene, Tony is not controlling the suits. They all have some sort of intelligent programming, the same reason why Tony Stark has good fighting skills when he is IM. A lot of those are programmed in the armor.
The twist to make the Mandarin a creation to turn mistakes into terrorist actions is clever. The twist to make him into a drunken drug addicted British buffoon was silly.
Fair point about the armor. Sadly it doesn't make the fight nay more interesting or make me care any more for what's going on. It's still random good guys I don't know fighting random bad guys I don't know. If they had really just focused on Iron Man vs Aldrich, even with him switching suits like he did, that would have been fine. Also remove the whole Pepper becoming immortal thing.
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*** DO WE REALLY HAVE TO MARK SPOILERS FOR A YEARS-OLD MOVIE? :lol ***
The twist, for me, highlights artistically (not realistically) the farcical nature of the villain. It sort of poetically mirrors Tony's own problems, with his IM persona being the farce, the artificial creation that he has been looking at for the problem when the real problem is with the man behind the armor.
The end scene is indeed the obligatory big action scene, but I guess that's par for the course for superhero movies. Even Winter Soldier, for all its greatness for its almost-street level action for the most part of the film, had to go for that big ending to I guess satisfy the summer-movie blockbuster going crowd. I'll let it pass.
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*spoilers I guess*
The minions isn't the problem of the ending action scene for me. I think it's emotionally unsatisfying for even the main characters. For example, a few minutes into it they kill Pepper, at least as far as Tony knows. This earns like a few seconds of being angry before turning back to comedy. Pepper just died, joke-time should be fucking over. You don't have to be as dark as the DCU, but at least treat your own movie with respect.
The twist is far from the movie's only problem.
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*** DO WE REALLY HAVE TO MARK SPOILERS FOR A YEARS-OLD MOVIE? :lol ***
I'm generally of the mind that, if you are entering a thread about a given movie or album you haven't seen/heard yet, you do so at your own risk. But he said he hasn't seen the movie yet and plans to do so, and it has a major plot twist that would easily be spoiled, so I am just trying to be sensitive to that.
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*** DO WE REALLY HAVE TO MARK SPOILERS FOR A YEARS-OLD MOVIE? :lol ***
The twist, for me, highlights artistically (not realistically) the farcical nature of the villain. It sort of poetically mirrors Tony's own problems, with his IM persona being the farce, the artificial creation that he has been looking at for the problem when the real problem is with the man behind the armor.
The end scene is indeed the obligatory big action scene, but I guess that's par for the course for superhero movies. Even Winter Soldier, for all its greatness for its almost-street level action for the most part of the film, had to go for that big ending to I guess satisfy the summer-movie blockbuster going crowd. I'll let it pass.
More spoilers.
Yea, you keep talking about one aspect of the twist and ignoring what I said about the other. I said the idea of the Mandarin being a PR creation was fine, it was him being a drunken junkie buffoon that was silly.
And with Winter Soldier, you missed the point, I didn't say action is bad. I said action where I don't care about either side is bad. In Winter Soldier, I care about Cap, Falcon, Widow, Bucky, etc. Hell, I even care about SHIELD. Why should I care about random badguys I've never even heard of until that moment or suits of armor that can just be rebuilt?
Argue all you want, but please argue my actual points.
I should also point out again, I did like Iron Man 3, I just didn't like the last act.
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The last act was just eye-candy for sure, but did have a purpose in setting up evolution of the tech that Tony uses in his suits, and the evolution of Jarvis' AI capabilities - eventually leading him to evolve into The Vision. But yeah.. I agree with everything else you said Adami.
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All of it really had a purpose. But no matter how integral and important to the overall Marvel arc, I get that it just didn't emotionally resonate with Adami. That just is what it is, and I can certainly respect that.
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*** DO WE REALLY HAVE TO MARK SPOILERS FOR A YEARS-OLD MOVIE? :lol ***
The twist, for me, highlights artistically (not realistically) the farcical nature of the villain. It sort of poetically mirrors Tony's own problems, with his IM persona being the farce, the artificial creation that he has been looking at for the problem when the real problem is with the man behind the armor.
The end scene is indeed the obligatory big action scene, but I guess that's par for the course for superhero movies. Even Winter Soldier, for all its greatness for its almost-street level action for the most part of the film, had to go for that big ending to I guess satisfy the summer-movie blockbuster going crowd. I'll let it pass.
More spoilers.
Yea, you keep talking about one aspect of the twist and ignoring what I said about the other. I said the idea of the Mandarin being a PR creation was fine, it was him being a drunken junkie buffoon that was silly.
And with Winter Soldier, you missed the point, I didn't say action is bad. I said action where I don't care about either side is bad. In Winter Soldier, I care about Cap, Falcon, Widow, Bucky, etc. Hell, I even care about SHIELD. Why should I care about random badguys I've never even heard of until that moment or suits of armor that can just be rebuilt?
Argue all you want, but please argue my actual points.
I should also point out again, I did like Iron Man 3, I just didn't like the last act.
Oh I am not arguing. I am just giving my take on it. The plot twist did not feel silly to me because the silliness had a storytelling purpose so I can sort of get why the twist was that way.
And I agree that the ending is not emotionally resonant, but it is just a way to appease the audience who wants to watch a spectacle because it is a big summer movie. I just enjoyed it for what it is, a spectacle, and my wife and I just marveled at the different types of IM armors because that's the point of the scene.
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marveled
:neverusethis:
But yes, I don't really mind these over the top action finales. Of course I do prefer it when there's more genuine tension, but I'm quite happy with them being a bit of fun too, as long as whole films aren't like that.
I also loved everything about the Mandarin twist.
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Mandarin twist. Sound like a new flavor for a bottled juice. :rollin
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Also, the twist was somewhat resolved in the short film "All Hail the King" on the Thor:The Dark World blu-ray.
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I am curious whether that setup will bear any fruit going forward, or if it was just a fun way to throw a bone to fans.
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I liked that short. I like the idea that there's actually a real Mandarin out there somewhere, whether we'll ever see him or not.
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I am curious whether that setup will bear any fruit going forward, or if it was just a fun way to throw a bone to fans.
I thought it was cool, but very much felt like they realized how badly the fans reacted to their decision and this was their very easy and cost effective way to backtrack and do damage control.
I doubt we'll ever see the real Mandarin or hear of him ever again.
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Totally what Adami said. They messed up their chance and are moving on, and they should. It'd just be backpedaling to try it again in any fashion and would also feel cheap and unimaginative at this point. I also feel like the fact that it was a short and an 'extra' says it all.
Honestly, I'm kind of glad that the end of Phase 3 will likely be a big shift in both actors and in superheros (well, for the most part...I'm pretty sure Cap and Stark are here to stay...and hopefully Spidey; fucking A...his reboots). I'm excited to see how it all ends but I'm beginning to wax and wane on the whole thing. I'm hoping that Civil War reignites some kind of flame because if not, I'm going to be super burned out by the time the Thanos show down happens.
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Honestly, I'm kind of glad that the end of Phase 3 will likely be a big shift in both actors and in superheros (well, for the most part...I'm pretty sure Cap and Stark are here to stay...and hopefully Spidey; fucking A...his reboots).
I'm not so sure. I think RJD is done after Civil War, which likely means Iron Man is done. And I think phase 3 will end Rogers being Cap.
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Downey was signed for Avengers 3 (before it was split into two parts), so he will be involved in one or both of them.
But after that, I would imagine Tony Stark will cease to be an overly important part of the MCU.
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Oh, I thought I had read that he was only signed on officially through Avengers 2, and extended for Civil War. I may be misremembering.
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His original deal was for 6 films, which they broke down to include three IM films and 3 Avengers films. He did sign to extend the deal by one film to get him into Civil War.
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His original deal was for 6 films, which they broke down to include three IM films and 3 Avengers films. He did sign to extend the deal by one film to get him into Civil War.
I believe that Evans' deal was also 6 films, wasn't it? And wasn't Jackson's to do 9? And Sebastian Stan's was also 6 films?? If so, he's got 3 flick's still in him. My guess is Infinity Wars + Cap 4.
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I'd be really surprised (though not dumbfounded) if Iron Man and Cap just stopped existing in the MCU. I mean, even Downey has made comments about someone else 'taking up the mantle' in the past when he was initially talking about winding down his superhero career. Granted, a one off comment doesn't mean anything but it's pretty much what I assumed. Iron Man is arguably the most known out of the MCU when it comes to the masses, I think. I definitely would expect some kind of break from the Iron Man character, lengthy or not (as well as Cap, perhaps even lengthier); but I'd be pretty surprised if they just stopped outright.
I can see them taking a long break, but my money is on them eventually having another Stark and/or another character take up Iron Man altogether at some point in time (I think that latter part is really iffy though). Hell, with the state of films, ten fold regarding superhero films, and reboots...I can totally see it happening. But I wouldn't be too heartbroken to see them go, they've certainly had their time to shine. But honestly...it's all about money in the end and I struggle to think of another pair of heroes who could rake in the cash like Iron Man and Cap.
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Didn't the Winter Soldier take up the mantle of Captain America in the comics? After Captain America was killed? In the Civil War series?
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Didn't the Winter Soldier take up the mantle of Captain America in the comics? After Captain America was killed? In the Civil War series?
He did, but I don't think that will happen in the movies. Maybe if Captain America goes underground and hangs up the mantle, they let Winter Soldier take over in a "there must always be a Captain America to give people hope" way, but have the real Cap return for Avengers. I just hope they don't kill Cap and then resurrect him in Infinity War again. That's the worst part about the MCU, characters die, but they don't stay dead.
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Didn't the Winter Soldier take up the mantle of Captain America in the comics? After Captain America was killed? In the Civil War series?
He did, but I don't think that will happen in the movies. Maybe if Captain America goes underground and hangs up the mantle, they let Winter Soldier take over in a "there must always be a Captain America to give people hope" way, but have the real Cap return for Avengers. I just hope they don't kill Cap and then resurrect him in Infinity War again. That's the worst part about the MCU, characters die, but they don't stay dead.
Well, the Infinity Stones (Time and Reality specifically) give the Marvel universe those options.
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To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if Captain America dies, that they use Dr. Strange to somehow bring him back in Infinity War. It wouldn't be that far off. Because as cool as Dr. Strange is, he really is an "out there" character, and I think they are introducing him before Infinity War for a reason, and that is he will play a part.
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Yeah, but Doctor Strange doesn't really have power over life and death. If a character actually dies, it would probably take something along the lines of the Infinity stones to do that.
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Yeah, but Doctor Strange doesn't really have power over life and death. If a character actually dies, it would probably take something along the lines of the Infinity stones to do that.
What about the original Wasp being stuck in the quantum realm? That element struck me as something that could tie into Dr Strange.
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Yeah, but Doctor Strange doesn't really have power over life and death. If a character actually dies, it would probably take something along the lines of the Infinity stones to do that.
What about the original Wasp being stuck in the quantum realm? That element struck me as something that could tie into Dr Strange.
Possibly, but that would just be moving a person from one physical place to another physical place. Not resurrection.
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Yeah, but Doctor Strange doesn't really have power over life and death. If a character actually dies, it would probably take something along the lines of the Infinity stones to do that.
What about the original Wasp being stuck in the quantum realm? That element struck me as something that could tie into Dr Strange.
Possibly, but that would just be moving a person from one physical place to another physical place. Not resurrection.
She's probably dead having been stuck there for a longass time
I refuse to watch Ant-Man again because of how sick that scene made me feel
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EBwfGdac7s
Loki does the weather report
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Tom Hiddleston Does the Weather
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Thomas William Hiddleston does the weather.
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Dr. Strange photos :omg:
https://mcuexchange.com/cumberbatch-and-ejiofor-return-in-more-doctor-strange-set-photos/
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Yep, that was just filmed a day or two ago, in New York City, on the last day of principal photography. Afterwards, Cumberbatch (still in costume) visited an area comic shop, bought some Dr. Strange comics, and hung out and had pics made with the store owner.
If you're that store owner, is that the best day ever or what?
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Just finished Daredevil season 2. Yeah another amazing season. I can totally live with that ending.
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Just finished Daredevil season 2. Yeah another amazing season. I can totally live with that ending.
Also just finished season 2 last night. I absolutely LOVED this entire season!! Punisher was BRUTAL! :tup
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Just finished Daredevil season 2. Yeah another amazing season. I can totally live with that ending.
Also just finished season 2 last night. I absolutely LOVED this entire season!! Punisher was BRUTAL! :tup
Ditto. What an awesome show. Can't wait for season 3!
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So apparently the initial twitter reactions to Civil War are like 100% praise.
While this is nice, it's also worthy to note that the initial twitter reactions to BvS were also like 100% praise.
So it's a good sign, but I'm going to try to not read much into it.
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Several movie critics that I follow who were critical of BvS after initial viewing are really hyped over how good Civil War is, so I'm buying into the hype.
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Several movie critics that I follow who were critical of BvS after initial viewing are really hyped over how good Civil War is, so I'm buying into the hype.
Yea, I saw a few of the critics I follow also like it. I just meant the general reaction. When I read the initial tweets of BvS it was "BEST COMIC MOVIE EVER FLAWLESS" and so forth. So I usually just don't pay much attention to early screening fan hype (even with some critics). Hoping for some more substantial thoughts in a few weeks.
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I'm not totally sure, but i think BvS was screened for fans, while Cap was screened only for critics.
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I'm not totally sure, but i think BvS was screened for fans, while Cap was screened only for critics.
Yes
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Lots of praise for Spidey and Black Panther as well, which bodes well not only for this film, but the future of the MCU.
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And people say
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I've got no sense of humour.
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I had to look up who that was. Apparently it's a Ren and Stimpy character that once made a joke appearance in a one off Marvel comic? Not too positive he belongs in this thread, but there's not a ton else to talk about right now, so I guess it won't matter much.
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Also it's a joke and you need to lighten up.
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Also it's a joke and you need to lighten up.
I'm cool. Just wasn't sure why a random cartoon character was being talked about. I had to look it up. Since I had no idea who he was I can't really find it funny. But sure, I'll be quiet. I'm sure there'll be lots of other posters who find it funny.
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Its funny because it's a random superhero that MARVEL should make a movie out of.. . . . . . .
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Alright, sorry.
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Also it's a joke and you need to lighten up.
I'm cool. Just wasn't sure why a random cartoon character was being talked about. I had to look it up. Since I had no idea who he was I can't really find it funny. But sure, I'll be quiet. I'm sure there'll be lots of other posters who find it funny.
Wouldn't count on it.
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Its funny because it's a random superhero that MARVEL should make a movie out of.. . . . . . .
Yeah, but it's not funny because Marvel doesn't make movies about random superheroes. They make movies about Marvel superheroes.
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Fine. Just delete the fucking post.
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Way to handle criticism. :tup
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.........anyway
So I've read (no idea how official this is, but it's from someone who saw the movie) that Spiderman gets almost 30 minutes of screen time in Civil War. Fascinating then, that they've managed to keep him so well under wraps.
Either way, already got my tickets to a May 5th showing. Super excited for this movie.
Not feeling anything for Dr. Strange yet. I guess I need to see a trailer first.
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.........anyway
So I've read (no idea how official this is, but it's from someone who saw the movie) that Spiderman gets almost 30 minutes of screen time in Civil War. Fascinating then, that they've managed to keep him so well under wraps.
Either way, already got my tickets to a May 5th showing. Super excited for this movie.
Not feeling anything for Dr. Strange yet. I guess I need to see a trailer first.
I heard the same thing... though the time is split b/t Spidey and Peter Parker.
Dr. Strange trailer is supposed to hit next week, no?
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Is it? That would be awesome. :metal
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There will be some form of teaser/trailer for Doctor Strange debuted tomorrow night, when Cumberbatch is a guest on Jimmy Kimmel.
BTW, it is Marvel week on that show. The members of Team Cap from Civil War are on tonight, and Team Iron Man are on Wednesday night. (I may have the team nights reversed, but tonight and Wednesday are the nights.)
New Civil War footage was debuted last night at the MTV Movie Awards. Can't wait for this film.
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There will be some form of teaser/trailer for Doctor Strange debuted tomorrow night, when Cumberbatch is a guest on Jimmy Kimmel.
BTW, it is Marvel week on that show. The members of Team Cap from Civil War are on tonight, and Team Iron Man are on Wednesday night. (I may have the team nights reversed, but tonight and Wednesday are the nights.)
New Civil War footage was debuted last night at the MTV Movie Awards. Can't wait for this film.
Oh happy day!
You know, reflecting on how this movie is going compared to Age of Ultron, I'm starting to think that having a two man team (brothers in this case) makes all the difference. Whedon had to write and direct that beast of a movie by himself. At least the Russo's are able to delegate responsibility between themselves and the other writers to help alleviate some of the stress. Keeps them focused and not feeling over burdened. Gives me a lot of hope for Infinity Wars. Though if Marvel is going to fall apart, Infinity Wars is the likely place for that to happen.
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Why Joss Whedon isn't directing Infinity War?
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Why Joss Whedon isn't directing Infinity War?
He mostly left Marvel after being burned out from Age of Ultron. I think he still does some consulting/producing but that is about the limit of his involvement anymore. The Russo Brothers will direct Infinity Wars movies.
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I would have doubt in the movie after his departure but, with the Russo brothers at helm, it should turn out ok.
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New Civil War footage was debuted last night at the MTV Movie Awards. Can't wait for this film.
Just watched. Giggity.
Really have to restrain myself for the next month... I don't want to do what I did with Ultron - watch EVERY spot/short/trailer that's released. By the time I got to the theater last year, I'd seen about 20 minutes of the movie. Trying so hard not to do that here.
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Civil War is showing here soon. I may as well see it as I saw the first 2 C.A. movies including Winter Soldier not so long ago.
I still need to see Thor 2 and Avengers 2 & Iron Man 3. Two of those are on Netflix so I might catch up.
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I would try to get caught up before you see Civil War. Avengers 2 and IM 3 tie directly into it. Thor 2 less so, so if you don't have time for all three, that would be the one to skip. But it (including the post-credits scene) does give some important background, especially for Avengers 2, if you can fit it in.
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Also Ant-Man. Not quite to the same level as Avengers 2, but it's nice to be familiar with the character before seeing Civil War.
Though you may have already seen it, not sure.
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If you've already seen Ant-Man...
watch it again.
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With all these movies coming out at the moment all I can think of is what a time to be alive!
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So, Ryan Coogler (Fruitvalle Station,Creed ) is up to direct the Black Panther movie.
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https://comicbook.com/marvel/2016/04/11/marvel-studios-president-says-inhumans-film-likely-to-be-delayed/
Feige talks Inhumans movie
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I would try to get caught up before you see Civil War. Avengers 2 and IM 3 tie directly into it.
I'm drawing a blank how IM 3 ties in to Civil War? IM3 has a little bit of tie in with Avengers 2 (predominantly thru the Jarvis' AI, Iron Legion, bigger role of Iron Patriot/War Machine). Is there something about Civil War that I'm missing?
Avengers 2 is absolutely mandatory before Civil War.
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I would try to get caught up before you see Civil War. Avengers 2 and IM 3 tie directly into it.
I'm drawing a blank how IM 3 ties in to Civil War? IM3 has a little bit of tie in with Avengers 2 (predominantly thru the Jarvis' AI, Iron Legion, bigger role of Iron Patriot/War Machine). Is there something about Civil War that I'm missing?
Avengers 2 is absolutely mandatory before Civil War.
IM3 digs pretty deeply into Tony's psyche and what a mess he is after the Battle of New York, which is further explored in Age of Ultron and more in Civil War. What is going on in Tony Stark's head is a huge factor in this larger, ongoing Marvel story arc. Notwithstanding the Battle of New York, without the events of IM3, I don't think Stark creates Ultron. And I don't think he takes the positions he will take in Civil War. And without the events in Age of Ultron, I'm not sure the events and conflict in Civil War are possible.
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Very true. It is a huge part of Civil War. I think as Adami said, watch Ant Man as well.
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I actually saw Ant Man in the cinema but don't remember much about it beyond the main plot.
I checked and i've seen every MCU film so far except for Thor 2 Avengers 2 and Iron Man 3.
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I actually saw Ant Man in the cinema but don't remember much about it beyond the main plot.
I checked and i've seen every MCU film so far except for Thor 2 Avengers 2 and Iron Man 3.
Unless you're a big Marvel junkie (like me) you can skip Thor 2. You can wiki it and learn the important bits of info without having to watch through it. But you should read through it at least, some important stuff did happen.
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I would try to get caught up before you see Civil War. Avengers 2 and IM 3 tie directly into it.
I'm drawing a blank how IM 3 ties in to Civil War? IM3 has a little bit of tie in with Avengers 2 (predominantly thru the Jarvis' AI, Iron Legion, bigger role of Iron Patriot/War Machine). Is there something about Civil War that I'm missing?
Avengers 2 is absolutely mandatory before Civil War.
IM3 digs pretty deeply into Tony's psyche and what a mess he is after the Battle of New York, which is further explored in Age of Ultron and more in Civil War. What is going on in Tony Stark's head is a huge factor in this larger, ongoing Marvel story arc. Notwithstanding the Battle of New York, without the events of IM3, I don't think Stark creates Ultron. And I don't think he takes the positions he will take in Civil War. And without the events in Age of Ultron, I'm not sure the events and conflict in Civil War are possible.
I'm with ya on all of that... but isn't that by definition, and indirect tie in between IM3 and Civil War? Meh... semantics.
Everyone should just follow all the MCU movies. There hasn't been a 'bad' one in the bunch - just varying degrees of good thru great.
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I enjoyed Thor 2. I think I'll watch again it right now.
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I enjoyed Thor 2. I think I'll watch again it right now.
I liked.......about half of it? I just didn't like the bad guy and everything about them. If they had a more interesting villain or problem to overcome, it would have been a lot better.
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I enjoyed Thor 2. I think I'll watch again it right now.
I liked.......about half of it? I just didn't like the bad guy and everything about them. If they had a more interesting villain or problem to overcome, it would have been a lot better.
They were pretty generic villians searching for a mcguffin, but the dark elves looked cool, and the action was great. I've only seen it once when it came out so maybe my opinion might change. I've never rewatched a MCU movie and thought less of it though.
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I enjoyed Thor 2. I think I'll watch again it right now.
I liked.......about half of it? I just didn't like the bad guy and everything about them. If they had a more interesting villain or problem to overcome, it would have been a lot better.
They were pretty generic villians searching for a mcguffin, but the dark elves looked cool, and the action was great. I've only seen it once when it came out so maybe my opinion might change. I've never rewatched a MCU movie and thought less of it though.
True, they did look cool and the action, especially at the end was really entertaining. The whole mcguffin though was just super contrived and the villain's motivation was just REALLY dumb. I also hated Jane Foster in this movie. I am relieved to find out she's not in Thor 3. Her whole role was just really, well........contrived to repeat myself.
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I enjoyed Thor 2. I think I'll watch again it right now.
I liked.......about half of it? I just didn't like the bad guy and everything about them. If they had a more interesting villain or problem to overcome, it would have been a lot better.
They were pretty generic villians searching for a mcguffin, but the dark elves looked cool, and the action was great. I've only seen it once when it came out so maybe my opinion might change. I've never rewatched a MCU movie and thought less of it though.
True, they did look cool and the action, especially at the end was really entertaining. The whole mcguffin though was just super contrived and the villain's motivation was just REALLY dumb. I also hated Jane Foster in this movie. I am relieved to find out she's not in Thor 3. Her whole role was just really, well........contrived to repeat myself.
Is Natalie Portman done with the movies?
Thor 2 is not on Netflix btw.
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I enjoyed Thor 2. I think I'll watch again it right now.
I liked.......about half of it? I just didn't like the bad guy and everything about them. If they had a more interesting villain or problem to overcome, it would have been a lot better.
They were pretty generic villians searching for a mcguffin, but the dark elves looked cool, and the action was great. I've only seen it once when it came out so maybe my opinion might change. I've never rewatched a MCU movie and thought less of it though.
True, they did look cool and the action, especially at the end was really entertaining. The whole mcguffin though was just super contrived and the villain's motivation was just REALLY dumb. I also hated Jane Foster in this movie. I am relieved to find out she's not in Thor 3. Her whole role was just really, well........contrived to repeat myself.
Is Natalie Portman done with the movies?
Thor 2 is not on Netflix btw.
https://www.ibtimes.com/thor-ragnarok-will-not-include-natalie-portman-fans-react-jane-fosters-exit-2351973
I hope so. Giving Thor a human love interest just always felt flat.
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When I saw Thor: The Dark World in the theater, I was not very impressed.
It was better when I rewatched it on blu-ray.
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First teaser for Dr. Strange is here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwcSki7r9cQ
My reaction.
(https://data.whicdn.com/images/48904992/large.jpg)
Yes, a little inceptiony at times, but this movie looks like it's going to use that idea in an amazing way.
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That looked sweet !!!
Is Cumberbatch doing an American accent ? He sounds like Hugh Laurie in House. . :p
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I loved the teaser. Fantastic.
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Just started watching Thor 2.
...Wait Chris o Dowd is in this! :lol The scene where he's having dinner with Natalie Portman and her friend brings that malfunctioning gadget..
He so should have said " have you tried turning it off and on again " :rollin.
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Just started watching Thor 2.
...Wait Chris o Dowd is in this! :lol The scene where he's having dinner with Natalie Portman and her friend brings that malfunctioning gadget..
He so should have said " have you tried turning it off and on again " :rollin.
That would have been..........glorious.
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I've never thought Anthony Hopkins was an amazing actor and his performance in this is doing nothing to change my mind..
He just sort of stands around saying lines.
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Ughh... I am so tired of the whole " picking someone up by their neck and cutting to their feet dangling off the floor " shot and it's happened three times in this already...
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Hopkins is perfelctly functional as Odin, but nothing special.
I think he's great actor otherwise though.
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Another cliche i'm tired of is - "corrupted good guy has jet black eyes".
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So, based on what I've seen, Marvel is doing that thing again where they spoil 10-20 minutes of the movie with TV spots.
I have no idea why they do this. Really hurt Age of Ultron for me. Fortunately I'll be avoiding all of the TV spots. Unfortunately people will post spoilers from them and I'll probably see some accidentally, which I hate.
You have 2-3 really great trailers. Let it be. Want TV spots? Cut out parts of the trailer. We don't need to see that much of the movie before it's out.
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So, based on what I've seen, Marvel is doing that thing again where they spoil 10-20 minutes of the movie with TV spots.
I have no idea why they do this. Really hurt Age of Ultron for me. Fortunately I'll be avoiding all of the TV spots. Unfortunately people will post spoilers from them and I'll probably see some accidentally, which I hate.
You have 2-3 really great trailers. Let it be. Want TV spots? Cut out parts of the trailer. We don't need to see that much of the movie before it's out.
:iagree: 100%. Trying so hard to avoid them, but I have a feeling that resistance is futile.
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Some reviews of Captain America: Civil War:
Variety (https://variety.com/2016/film/reviews/captain-america-civil-war-review-1201752643/)
... a decisively superior hero-vs.-hero extravaganza that also ranks as the most mature and substantive picture to have yet emerged from the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Very much an “Avengers” movie in scope and ambition if not title (the conspicuous absence of Thor and Hulk notwithstanding), this chronicle of an epic clash between two equally noble factions, led by Captain America and Iron Man, proves as remarkable for its dramatic coherence and thematic unity as for its dizzyingly inventive action sequences; viewers who have grown weary of seeing cities blow up ad nauseam will scarcely believe their luck at the relative restraint and ingenuity on display. …
The Hollywood Reporter (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/captain-america-civil-war-film-882017)
... Posing serious questions about violence and vigilantism while reveling in both, Captain America: Civil War is overlong but surprisingly light on its feet. It builds upon the plotlines of previous Avengers outings, bringing together known marquee quantities and introducing the Black Panther and a new Spidey in winning fashion. … The movie’s center does hold, though, in the well-played contrast between Steve Rogers and Tony Stark. Rogers’ anachronistic aspects are no longer the source of punchlines, and Evans persuasively conveys his decency without overstating the matter.
USA Today (https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2016/04/13/review-captain-america-civil-war-movie/82941284/)
... a deep exploration of friendship and family and what sacrifices should be made to hold onto both. And while it’s not the greatest Marvel effort — that honor goes to the previous Captain America: The Winter Soldier — Civil War does pull outstanding performances from its two franchise faces, Chris Evans and Robert Downey Jr. …
The Daily Beast (https://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/04/13/captain-america-civil-war-makes-superhero-movies-great-again.html)
… Finally, a big budget superhero sequel that manages to be both effortlessly entertaining and utterly sobering, instead of just one of those things—or, as we’ve endured too frequently in the past, neither of them. … every studio in the superhero game benefits from how well Civil War staves off the spandex fatigue …
Forbes (https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2016/04/13/review-captain-america-civil-war-again-proves-more-is-less/#63cf9916335d)
... Captain America: Civil War is a classic case of having your cake and eating it too. There is lots to love and much to appreciate in its thoughtful and deeply personal narrative. At its best, it acts as a repudiation of the MCU playbook. Oh sure, it is as much a table-setter as a stand-alone movie, and there are moments of unabashed fanservice that don’t really serve the film, but it takes its story to its natural endpoint with minimal compromise. If that sounds like a spoiler, it’s not. Because if anything this film relishes the opportunity to rub our noses in our own preordained expectations. …
Empire (https://www.empireonline.com/movies/captain-america-civil-war/review/)
... the best Marvel Studios movie yet. …
Also, last night on Jimmy Kimmel, Robert Downey Jr. said "We really knocked it out of the park with this one."
Sounds like we might have a winner on our hands, folks.
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I'll go see it then.
I only saw TWS recently so it *should* be fresh in my memory.
p.s. I don't really mind not following the overall MCU story. the only films i've not seen now are Ultron and Iron Man 3.
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I would definitely see at least Ultron before Civil War, and IM 3 if possible.
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Do not appreciate having to wait a couple more weeks before this is out.
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BTW, it's been slow going, but we have watched the first 9 episodes of Daredevil season 2.
Holy shit. Can't wait to finish it out.
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Finish it out of what ?
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Finish out the season.
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I haven't started it yet. Just haven't had the time. I am still behind on Agents of SHIELD. But I will hopefully get caught up soon.
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BTW, it's been slow going, but we have watched the first 9 episodes of Daredevil season 2.
Holy shit. Can't wait to finish it out.
Same... I think jingle.son and I just have 1 or 2 more to go.. I think we're on the finale.
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Deadpool 2 has been officially announced. :metal
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Deadpool 2 has been officially announced. :metal
That was a given.
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Finish out the season.
Out of what ?
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As much as I hate to interrupt this riveting thing where we mock a common saying, anyone have thoughts on Wolverine 3?
So it'll take place in the future, and since Professor X is in it, that's means one of two things.
1) Old Man Logan, and Professor X is in flashbacks/or in his head.
2) After the future events of DOFP
Either way, this is actually the only opportunity they have thus far to include Deadpool. Since the other X-Men stuff takes place almost 40 years ago, he can't show up in those.
So, personally I'm hoping for an awesome Deadpool cameo in Wolverine 3. Reminds me a bit of the Mutant Messiah story line where they travel into the distant future and find Deadpool has been locked inside a refrigerator for hundreds of years, just hanging out and doing tic tac toe with himself.
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Do the X Men movies and the MCU crossover ? If so why are they not considered part of the MCU ?
EDIT : I guess Deadpool is an X Men and therefore also not in the MCU series.
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Do the X Men movies and the MCU crossover ? If so why are they not considered part of the MCU ?
EDIT : I guess Deadpool is an X Men and therefore also not in the MCU series.
Sadly not. Fox owns X-Men (including Deadpool) and Fantastic Four. If the Fant4stick movie had been a success, there were plans to cross them over with the X-Men universe.
While X-Men are way too popular and successful to revert back to Marvel any time soon, I'm hoping FF's major failure will help pull a similar deal that Sony got with Spiderman.
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Hmmm. Not sure I'd want to see any of the FF in a Marvel movie. They're not the best characters.
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Hmmm. Not sure I'd want to see any of the FF in a Marvel movie. They're not the best characters.
Not in the movies haha, true. (admittedly still haven't seen the newest one for obvious reasons).
But they really can be great. The FF had some incredible arcs in the Civil War comics. In fact, the absence of the FF from the newest movie is what bummed me out the most when they first announced it.
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Hmmm. Not sure I'd want to see any of the FF in a Marvel movie. They're not the best characters.
Not in the movies haha, true. (admittedly still haven't seen the newest one for obvious reasons).
But they really can be great. The FF had some incredible arcs in the Civil War comics. In fact, the absence of the FF from the newest movie is what bummed me out the most when they first announced it.
Yeah, Read was a pretty important component of the Civil War storyline. Then again, most of his stuff was related to the Negative Zone, and imprisoning all the costumes that didn't register... not something that would've worked in the MCU on screen.
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Hmmm. Not sure I'd want to see any of the FF in a Marvel movie. They're not the best characters.
Not in the movies haha, true. (admittedly still haven't seen the newest one for obvious reasons).
But they really can be great. The FF had some incredible arcs in the Civil War comics. In fact, the absence of the FF from the newest movie is what bummed me out the most when they first announced it.
Yeah, Read was a pretty important component of the Civil War storyline. Then again, most of his stuff was related to the Negative Zone, and imprisoning all the costumes that didn't register... not something that would've worked in the MCU on screen.
Oh yea, the movie is reworked so it's fine. But the personal turmoil he went through was just incredible, along with the division of him and Sue with him finally starting to realize that he sees humanity and everyone in it to be factors in an equation and then being upset that he's......not really upset about it. Just great character stuff.
However, the biggest drawback to not having X-Men or FF in Marvel is no Illuminati :( That would make the greatest end-credits scene ever.
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Hmmm. Not sure I'd want to see any of the FF in a Marvel movie. They're not the best characters.
Not in the movies haha, true. (admittedly still haven't seen the newest one for obvious reasons).
But they really can be great. The FF had some incredible arcs in the Civil War comics. In fact, the absence of the FF from the newest movie is what bummed me out the most when they first announced it.
Yeah, Read was a pretty important component of the Civil War storyline. Then again, most of his stuff was related to the Negative Zone, and imprisoning all the costumes that didn't register... not something that would've worked in the MCU on screen.
Oh yea, the movie is reworked so it's fine. But the personal turmoil he went through was just incredible, along with the division of him and Sue with him finally starting to realize that he sees humanity and everyone in it to be factors in an equation and then being upset that he's......not really upset about it. Just great character stuff.
However, the biggest drawback to not having X-Men or FF in Marvel is no Illuminati :( That would make the greatest end-credits scene ever.
Agreed on all accounts. Ben's place in the storyline was pretty good stuff too.
I think the post-credits scene I'll mark out over will be if/when Black Bolt gives a wink or a nod or something. Prolly at the end if Infinity Wars 2.
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Black Bolt would be cool (though unlikely for a while since it seems they're pushing off Inumans even further).
But most people don't know Black Bolt. Imagine an ending credits scene of Tony Stark walking into a room and you hear a familiar voice say "wonderful, let's get started shall we?" And the camera pans to the rest of the room, hosting Dr. Strange, Reed Richards, Professor X, Namor and your man Black Bolt. I'd weep.
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Oh you're right... I'd lose my shit. But as you said, with Chuck and Read not in the MCU, it'll never happen. Sure, Black Bolt isn't that well known (now), but true comic book fans know who he is. It's kinda like the Thanos reveal at the end of Avengers 1... causual movie fans were all 'Who is that purple mofo, and why is he smiling?'
And July/2019 would fit with a Black Bolt reveal coming out of IW2... unless he makes a cameo, or the movie gets pushed more - 3 films on the docket now means 2019 is already pretty stacked.
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Didn't they push or cancel Inhumans for now? I don't think it's happening until Agents of SHIELD is over, considering the poor relationship between Kevin Feige and Isaac Perlmutter.
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Still showing as July, 2019... right after IW Pt2.
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Finish out the season.
Out of what ?
Goddammit cut it out.
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Finish out the season.
Out of what ?
Goddammit cut it out.
Cut it out of what?
:neverusethis:
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Fucking Brits
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Better pocket that monocle with that talk Rich. :lol
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:ariich:
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He just sort of stands around saying lines.
DAMN, Dave.
You really know an actor when you see one.
What in the hell does that even mean? :rollin :metal
^Rhetorical question, by the bye. It's just...perplexing and awesome. Zero sarcasm. I love that.
But otherwise, the Thor films are complete bottom of the barrel Marvel films in my eyes so I see where you're coming from and Hopkins is indeed nothing more than a big name for the film to tout. Then again that goes for most Marvel films when it comes to at least one or two characters (Del Toro in GoTG is the best example I can think of...especially since he's not coming back apparently).
I'm really considering trekking to the theater and dealing with the lemmings to see Civil War, I'm pretty damned excited about it. I'll have to see if some peeps want to go though. I've been to plenty of movies on my own but for some reason superhero films feel like they'd be enjoyed more with friends.
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I meant that he has barely any inflection in his delivery.
It's just Anthony Hopkins standing on the spot reciting the script.
There's no flair.
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I'm just givin' ya shit. :heart
I actually completely agree. Very monotone and bland.
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I've never thought Anthony Hopkins was anything amazing. He's great in Silence Of The Lambs and Hannibal and maybe a couple of others.
But mostly he's the exact same in everything. Meet Joe Black is a good example. He nearly got out-acted by Brad Pitt in that.
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https://www.comicbookmovie.com/avengers/avengers_infinity_war/jon-favreau-confirms-return-to-the-marvel-a139688
Jon Favreau is executive producing the next two Avengers films
I am quite pleased.
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https://www.comicbookmovie.com/avengers/avengers_infinity_war/jon-favreau-confirms-return-to-the-marvel-a139688
Jon Favreau is executive producing the next two Avengers films
I am quite pleased.
I'm more excited on who's directing.
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https://www.comicbookmovie.com/avengers/avengers_infinity_war/jon-favreau-confirms-return-to-the-marvel-a139688
Jon Favreau is executive producing the next two Avengers films
I am quite pleased.
I'm more excited on who's directing.
Oh totally. Me too. But this is just like some whipped cream on top.
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Absolutely.
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Agreed.
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Let's take a moment to remember that Favreau directed Iron Man 2.
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Let's take a moment to remember that Favreau directed Iron Man 2.
So? Every director has blunders. Sam Raimi gave us two amazing Spider-Man movies before making a disappointment. Favreau probably had way more freedom on the original Iron Man, but with the second they needed to tie things together more closely and maybe that was too hard for him.
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Let's take a moment to remember that Favreau directed Iron Man 2.
And Iron Man. Of all the problems with IM 2, I don't think the directing was the big fault. Felt more like sloppy writing and the studio wanting to stuff in tons of Avengers stuff.
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Yes Iron Man 2 had NO Script. Sam Rockwell wanted the iron man suits. He didn't get them. Mickey Rourke hid for 2 hours then got defeated by Stark and the Black dude with a move they learned
in the previous scene :lol
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Iron Man 2 was great. Don't be silly.
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Yes Iron Man 2 had NO Script. Sam Rockwell wanted the iron man suits. He didn't get them. Mickey Rourke hid for 2 hours then got defeated by Stark and the Black dude with a move they learned
in the previous scene :lol
I don't fully agree, but close enough.
It's sad too, cause IM2 had a lot of potential story lines. Whiplash as a character was fascinating, but ultimately wasted. Justin Hammer was also interesting, but shouldn't have had anything to do with Whiplash. I know they also intended to deal with Tony's alcoholism, which is a big deal in the comics, but they just ended up doing a really bad party scene instead. I think he's still a drinker in the movies.
Speaking of the drinking, I feel like this is part of a general idea that the movies are subtly introducing but need to be solidified for Civil War to make sense. Guilt. Guilt is a HUGE motivator for Stark. Guilt over his previous actions and the damage they caused. In the comics, the drinking is a big part of that, but in the movies it looks like the creation of Ultron along with the immense destruction caused by the Avenger's escapades will be that driving force, which is ultimately why he chooses the side he does in the Civil War (both comics and I assume movie).
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Speaking of the drinking, I feel like this is part of a general idea that the movies are subtly introducing but need to be solidified for Civil War to make sense. Guilt. Guilt is a HUGE motivator for Stark. Guilt over his previous actions and the damage they caused. In the comics, the drinking is a big part of that, but in the movies it looks like the creation of Ultron along with the immense destruction caused by the Avenger's escapades will be that driving force, which is ultimately why he chooses the side he does in the Civil War (both comics and I assume movie).
^Yes. That is why I recommended that Kowtow see IM3 and Age of Ultron before Civil War. I think that context is necessary.
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All of that AND the need to prevent what he saw in the vision.
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That is the same thing
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Hopefully, Favreau coming back as an EP means the return of Sam Rockwell to the MCU.
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And Robert Downey Jr signs to appear as Tony Stark in the upcoming Spider-Man: Homecoming. :metal
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https://deadline.com/2016/04/inhumans-undated-disney-schedule-1201742544/
Disney pulls Inhumans from schedule :tdwn
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https://deadline.com/2016/04/inhumans-undated-disney-schedule-1201742544/
Disney pulls Inhumans from schedule :tdwn
That blows.
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Big time
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And Robert Downey Jr signs to appear as Tony Stark in the upcoming Spider-Man: Homecoming. :metal
Awesome news. Can never have too much Downey or Iron Man.
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https://deadline.com/2016/04/inhumans-undated-disney-schedule-1201742544/
Disney pulls Inhumans from schedule :tdwn
That blows.
It's not THAT big a deal. I mean, unless they got better after I stopped collecting comics (circa 2000), they were always an interesting footnote at best.
I mean, I would like to see a film, because I trust Marvel Studios, so it would be cool to see those characters on screen and see their impact on the MCU. But it's not like they are removing Captain Marvel or Ant-Man & The Wasp.
Besides, it's not cancelled. It will probably show back up in the schedule for Phase 4 sometime.
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This is what?? The 2nd or 3rd time it's been bumped? That's the disappointing part... it's becoming a trend, and clearly not a high priority for them. And as far as non-traditional marvel franchises, they are the most interesting to me. I haven't read much about them, but I will be (once I finish re-reading Secret Wars II).
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I don't think Inhumans will happen mainly because of the fallout between Feige (the movie-verse) and Perlmutter (the tv-verse) and while the shows take place in the same universe, you don't see the movies referencing what happens in the tv-shows but rather the other way around. The inhumans have played a big part of Agents of SHIELD and will most likely continue to do so, and I don't think an Inhumans movie is happening as long as Agents of SHIELD is still on air, but that show might be over in a few years anyways.
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I really don't think any behind-the-scenes fighting between the TV dept. and the film dept. has anything to do with it. The TV show isn't featuring any of the Inhuman Royal Family, and hasn't even referenced them (which seems really weird).
I'm not sure I would say they don't care about it, but it is clearly not germane to the rest of Phase 3.
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I assumed the Inhumans would play a large part in the resolution of the Infinity Wars. I mean, I get that it's not Marvel's problem that I made an assumption. But with an enemy as strong as what the Marvel universe will be facing and with so much at stake, it seems weird to have major powered beings not participating in the fight. :dunno:
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Tried to find an online site to RENT Age of Ultron LEGALLY.
Couldn't find one.
Torrented it.
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We watched Civil War today. It's amazing how Marvel managed to put out one of their best films several years into the Marvel cinematic universe pipeline. Amazing movie.
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We watched Civil War today. It's amazing how Marvel managed to put out one of their best films several years into the Marvel cinematic universe pipeline. Amazing movie.
So lucky.
Since I assume at least several people will be seeing it before the release, can we avoid any spoilers until at least a few days after it's out? This is one movie I want as little spoiled as possible.
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Since I assume at least several people will be seeing it before the release, can we avoid any spoilers until at least a few days after it's out? This is one movie I want as little spoiled as possible.
YES! (although, as with anything, it should be obvious that there is a potential for spoilers in a thread that is ABOUT the Marvel movies, so if you don't want to be spoiled, best to just stay away)
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Since I assume at least several people will be seeing it before the release, can we avoid any spoilers until at least a few days after it's out? This is one movie I want as little spoiled as possible.
YES! (although, as with anything, it should be obvious that there is a potential for spoilers in a thread that is ABOUT the Marvel movies, so if you don't want to be spoiled, best to just stay away)
I'd agree after the film is released. But it'd suck to have to stay out of the thread before the film is even out. :( but if that's all I can do, then I guess that's what I'll do.
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I am watching it in a bit. I will keep it brief as if it was good and no more detail than that
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Since I assume at least several people will be seeing it before the release, can we avoid any spoilers until at least a few days after it's out? This is one movie I want as little spoiled as possible.
YES! (although, as with anything, it should be obvious that there is a potential for spoilers in a thread that is ABOUT the Marvel movies, so if you don't want to be spoiled, best to just stay away)
I'd agree after the film is released. But it'd suck to have to stay out of the thread before the film is even out. :( but if that's all I can do, then I guess that's what I'll do.
I tend to agree with you. But I also have to acknowledge that if the thread is about a hot new movie that almost everyone in the world will see, once it becomes available for some to have seen it, the reality is that spoilers are likely.
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Makes sense. People will do what they do. Guess I'll be back in 8 days when I see the movie. :D
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I'm seeing it tomorrow night! :D
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I hear you guys. I think that this should be a no spoiler thread as pertaining to Civil War and just have a new one started for those that have seen it. It sucks to have a movie spoiled, I have stayed away from EVERY TV spot and trailer despite my son wanting me to watch each and every one.
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Since I assume at least several people will be seeing it before the release, can we avoid any spoilers until at least a few days after it's out? This is one movie I want as little spoiled as possible.
YES! (although, as with anything, it should be obvious that there is a potential for spoilers in a thread that is ABOUT the Marvel movies, so if you don't want to be spoiled, best to just stay away)
I'd agree after the film is released. But it'd suck to have to stay out of the thread before the film is even out. :( but if that's all I can do, then I guess that's what I'll do.
I tend to agree with you. But I also have to acknowledge that if the thread is about a hot new movie that almost everyone in the world will see, once it becomes available for some to have seen it, the reality is that spoilers are likely.
Agreed, especially as it comes out in the UK first, where normally we have to be the ones avoiding spoilers as most films release in the US first.
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I hear you guys. I think that this should be a no spoiler thread as pertaining to Civil War and just have a new one started for those that have seen it. It sucks to have a movie spoiled, I have stayed away from EVERY TV spot and trailer despite my son wanting me to watch each and every one.
Doin the same here - only watched the official trailers (and the one MTV released clip). I don't want to be pre-spoil myself like I did with Ultron by watching all the clips/featurette's etc....
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I hear you guys. I think that this should be a no spoiler thread as pertaining to Civil War and just have a new one started for those that have seen it. It sucks to have a movie spoiled, I have stayed away from EVERY TV spot and trailer despite my son wanting me to watch each and every one.
Doin the same here - only watched the official trailers (and the one MTV released clip). I don't want to be pre-spoil myself like I did with Ultron by watching all the clips/featurette's etc....
Agree dude!
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We watched Civil War today. It's amazing how Marvel managed to put out one of their best films several years into the Marvel cinematic universe pipeline. Amazing movie.
So lucky.
Since I assume at least several people will be seeing it before the release, can we avoid any spoilers until at least a few days after it's out? This is one movie I want as little spoiled as possible.
Don't worry. I won't spoil it. I am just increasing the hype. We're just lucky here new film releases are on Wednesdays. :metal
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Just started watching Daredevil and I'm loving it. Jessica Jones was good but Daredevil grabbed pretty much from the beginning of the first episode.
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Has anyone mentioned yet that they've announced a Cloak & Dagger series on the Freeform network?
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Has anyone mentioned yet that they've announced a Cloak & Dagger series on the Freeform network?
Yeah, I read it, but I'm not sure what to think about it.
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Saw Civil War last night in Atmos 2D.
Everything people are saying about it is true. Probably the best movie in the MCU!
Black Panther and Spider-Man kills it.
The perfect balance between action, humor and drama.
9,5/10 (I won`t spoil anything until everyone has seen it, but there is a tiny flaw that stops it from being a 10/10).
Seeing it again in 3D on sunday! :metal
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Punisher is getting his own series
https://marvel.com/news/tv/26104/netflix_orders_marvels_the_punisher_to_series?linkId=23992378
:metal :metal
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Got home after my surgery and watched Civil War 2 times. No spoilers here, just going to say as a Marvel geek, and I have spoken my mind on said Marvel movies. This is by far THE best one to date. Putting my homeboy stuff aside. This will be the most fun Marvel movie u can get. Story was WELL done, I will be honest. I need a third time to digest cause there are things besides the epic battles to digest, loved it.
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I just hve to say that T'challa was my favorite Avenger back when I was still actively reading comics (I stopped around two years ago).
This movie did not disappoint me in its portrayal of T'challa. I thought they would have difficulty pulling off his character on screen, but they nailed it.
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This is by far THE best one to date.
Agreed.
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Punisher is getting his own series
https://marvel.com/news/tv/26104/netflix_orders_marvels_the_punisher_to_series?linkId=23992378
:metal :metal
YES
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3rd time watching Civil War. Lots of small intricate stuff besides the "big stuff". I still keep catching things. I gotta say, this movie is phenomenal. Even tho I have it on dvd and watched it on my 60 inch tv. It is a must see in IMAX which I will do when it hits here next week
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3rd time watching Civil War. Lots of small intricate stuff besides the "big stuff". I still keep catching things. I gotta say, this movie is phenomenal. Even tho I have it on dvd and watched it on my 60 inch tv. It is a must see in IMAX which I will do when it hits here next week
There's already a quality bootleg of it?
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3rd time watching Civil War. Lots of small intricate stuff besides the "big stuff". I still keep catching things. I gotta say, this movie is phenomenal. Even tho I have it on dvd and watched it on my 60 inch tv. It is a must see in IMAX which I will do when it hits here next week
There's already a quality bootleg of it?
No not even close. I have a friend that is a film critic and they send screeners to them to do reviews. he sent me it. It is 1080 quality. I would be shocked if a leak of it happens except for a crappy cam one and this is not a movie that a cam can do justice to. I mean if it leaks on a cam copy unless you REALLY need to see it. skip it and do the theater. I have the dvd and am still going to see it in IMAX when it hits here next week
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Seeing Civil War in 20 min. I'll report back in a few hours without spoilers.
:metal :corn
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Holy shit you guys. Civil War is so good. So good. :metal
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Freaking. Amazing.
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4pm show with jingle.kids - IMAX... and NOT 3D. Can't remember the last time the theater's were doing that!
Also... Agents of Shield was pretty good the past few weeks. Really looking forward to the finale.
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After the two atrocities that Marvel released last year, Civil War made up for it. What a movie! Out of the two Russo Bros films, I think The Winter Solider is a better film. But man was there some exciting goodness in this one. Black Panther, one of my favorite Marvel characters, didn't let me down, and i'm even more excited for his solo movie than ever.
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After the two atrocities that Marvel released last year, Civil War made up for it. What a movie! Out of the two Russo Bros films, I think The Winter Solider is a better film. But man was there some exciting goodness in this one. Black Panther, one of my favorite Marvel characters, didn't let me down, and i'm even more excited for his solo movie than ever.
Really? Age of Ultron had problems but Ant-Man was really fun and enjoyable. Either way, "atrocities" would better describe Man of Steel or BvS in that case.
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Age of Ultron was awful, and Ant-Man was a giant ball of fluff.
Ok, calling Ant-Man an atrocity may be an exaggeration. I just didn't like it.
Age of Ultron was an atrocity. There.
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I think the atrocity word should be reserved to movies that aren't complete movies. Age of Ultron had problems, but it's still a finished movie. Fantastic Four or BvS on the other hand..
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I'm with Zantera on this. AoU may not have been a great movie, or the best MCU movie, but it was still a good movie and packed a lot in while still feeling pretty coherent and cohesive. As opposed to BvS which packed a lot in and was a hot mess as a result. Plus, James Spader.
Haven't even bothered with FF v2.
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I wouldn't call Age of Ultron a complete movie....more like a bad 2 hour special on Comedy Central.
Also, I would like to point out that even though Civil War is supposed to be a Captain America movie, it is the best AVENGERS movie. Best interactions with all the characters. Better story. Flowed better. Didn't jam in jokes in inappropriate places ala Age of Ultron. Better sense of urgency.
God bless the Russo Brothers. :metal
Did I mention how incredible Black Panther is? Because he's pretty incredible.
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"Can you move your seat up?"
"No."
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Looking forward to seeing this tonight!
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After all the reviews, I was expecting greatness....it was even better than that.
IMO, it may give TDK a run for greatest comic book based movie of all time. (though I understand there is a small contingency of TDK haters in these parts)
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I actually thought Age Of Ultron was very good. I can understand thinking that some of the Joss Whedon gags felt a bit forced in but I don't agree with most of the other criticisms I have seen about it at all. The main way it felt a bit lacking to me is that, unlike the first Avengers film, it didn't really feel like "Whoah, that took the Marvel Universe to a whole new level." And in a way that was always to be expected given the storyline they went with for it, delaying the Infinity stone stuff further for "Part 1" and "Part 2" Avengers movies down the road. It makes up for that however for having something that's a bit of a rarity in Marvel films; a good villain. Even though he is a robot, James Spader's voice performance makes Ultron the best and most memorable Marvel Universe villain outside of Loki (who fills a bit of a different niche than being a straight forward "big bad" villain anyway).
However Captain America: Civil War does feel like it has pushed the envelope for the Marvel Universe the way that the Avengers did; that film showed that different movie superheroes could come together and team up against an alien threat to Earth, Civil War shows (obviously) that with more and more superheroes appearing, these superheroes could come into real conflict. The fun middle part of the Avengers was the superheroes first meeting and (after a bit of sparks flying) forming a team. The fun middle part of Civil War is how the team breaks apart and the two factions (complete with new recruitments) form. And (mild spoilers for the film in this sentence) while the main battle between the two teams was pretty lighthearted (though still great), it was good that the film ended with a real serious slugfest between Iron Man and Captain America / The Winter Soldier, rather than giving us a taste of conflict between the two sides but having it quickly resolved and swept under the rug .
"The Winter Soldier meets The Avengers", as well as being basically the storyline of the movie, gives a pretty good summary of the overall feel of the film.
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Double.
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"Can you move your seat up?"
"No."
I demand a "Cooking with Vision" web series.
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"Can you move your seat up?"
"No."
I demand a "Cooking with Vision" web series.
There were some great gags...but that VW bug and the seat gag in particular seemed to get the biggest laugh. I was a bit surprised, because it seems almost an afterthought type of gag, but 10 min later I was still giggling for some reason.
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"Can you move your seat up?"
"No."
I demand a "Cooking with Vision" web series.
There were some great gags...but that VW bug and the seat gag in particular seemed to get the biggest laugh. I was a bit surprised, because it seems almost an afterthought type of gag, but 10 min later I was still giggling for some reason.
Yea, the humor in this movie, I think, is the most natural and fluid type of humor we've had yet. It just felt like it really came from the characters being themselves, and not the writers wanting more jokes. Hard to do that so well.
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Watched Civil War last night. Great movie, and one of the best in the MCU so far, if not the best.
Only slight complaints being (mild spoilers):
It definitely felt like an Avengers movie book-ended by a Captain America movie. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing but the pacing of the film suffered a bit as a result. Also, the explosion at Vienna felt a bit broken up and was presented with little impact, at least compared to the disaster in Lagos, which to me is strange since it's where Black Panther finds his motivation for his actions in the film.
Even besides that, the movie was fantastic.
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My only complaint was the damn shaky cam. They tried to Bourne it up.
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My only complaint was the damn shaky cam. They tried to Bourne it up.
+1
Sensational though
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Agreed that the humour was entirely natural - except for the Nat/Clint exchange on the tarmac - that was kinda contrived. I like how they put in as much of the comic book series as they could.
Can't wait to go see it again - probably cheap-seat Tuesday.
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I'm going to ask a spoiler question in small text, if anyone wants to answer, please also do so in small text or some other way to avoid spoilers for others.
What are peoples thoughts on Zemo? Honestly, they really could have just called him Bob, since he had no relation to the Zemo of the comics. That said, I thought he was a rather good villain. This movie wasn't about the villain, so he wasn't a huge focus, more of a way to get things moving. I thought his motives were pretty interesting and human, his actions were well thought out and the dude who played him really did a good job. He's not a great villain, but I'd say he's one of the better ones in the MCU, which I admit isn't saying a ton, but still. I know he'll be overshadowed by the rest of the movie, but I still want to point out that I actually enjoyed his performance and character.
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Civil war was fantastic. As someone who hadn't seen any of the trailers and had almost no clue what or who were going to be in it, I enjoyed every minute of it. The humor was great, the action was phenomenal. I liked that they made it feel like the Bourne movies in terms of hand to hand combat, truly fantastic stuff to watch. Kudos to Marvel for constantly raising the bar.
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Just got back from seeing Civil War.
Holy fuck. Now THAT is how you make a super hero film.
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It didn't really even feel like a superhero movie, which is one of the things I really liked about. It just felt like a good action thriller sort of. My favorite MCU movie so far.
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It didn't really even feel like a superhero movie, which is one of the things I really liked about. It just felt like a good action thriller sort of. My favorite MCU movie so far.
Yea, I'm going to say this is my favorite MCU film too, with Winter Soldier as a very close second. I know a lot of people say Winter Soldier is better, but I wonder how much of that is attributable to it being a much smaller more focused story, which this just never was meant to be.
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I'm going to ask a spoiler question in small text, if anyone wants to answer, please also do so in small text or some other way to avoid spoilers for others.
What are peoples thoughts on Zemo? Honestly, they really could have just called him Bob, since he had no relation to the Zemo of the comics. That said, I thought he was a rather good villain. This movie wasn't about the villain, so he wasn't a huge focus, more of a way to get things moving. I thought his motives were pretty interesting and human, his actions were well thought out and the dude who played him really did a good job. He's not a great villain, but I'd say he's one of the better ones in the MCU, which I admit isn't saying a ton, but still. I know he'll be overshadowed by the rest of the movie, but I still want to point out that I actually enjoyed his performance and character.
In response to your question....
I agree, he wasn't a focus whatsoever, and there was really no need to call him Zemo. His sole purpose was for there to be a reason to move the story along - which he (both the character and actor) did just fine. Reflectively, I struggle a little with some of the incredible coincidences or precise series of events that had to happen for his plan to succeed. For instance:
- setting up Bucky and having him found
- all the steps necessary to get Iron Man to Siberia
- the EMP blast ... no backup generator at that gov't facility?
None-the-less, brilliant movie. Didn't even feel like 2.5 hour.
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Watched Civil War yesterday!
Civil War could be the best film in the MCU. A true game changer!
Considering how much the had to fit into 2 1/2 hour film, it felt very cohesive!
Black Panther and Spider Man are the best parts in this movie!
MCU top.5 for me
1/2. Civil War, Iron Man 1
3. Avengers
4. Guardians of the Galaxy
5. Winter Soldier
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Oh, and for those worrying about having *too* high expectations, I wouldn't worry. This was my most anticipated movie of 2016 (all movies... not just the 6 superhero ones), and it firmly delivered.
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Soooo.
Civil War = $366m on day 1.
I'm guessing this will be around $500m opening weekend.
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Oh, and for those worrying about having *too* high expectations, I wouldn't worry. This was my most anticipated movie of 2016 (all movies... not just the 6 superhero ones), and it firmly delivered.
Same here. Oh my God, what a movie.
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I always had faith in The Russo's after what they delivered in The Winter Soldier. I'm seeing it again this week with my girlfriend who was working the graveyard shift at the hospital when I saw it Thursday night. BTW before I get hassled for that, I am a good boyfriend because she bought me the ticket as a surprise to go see it that night, and I'm buying us dinner and the tickets on Wednesday.
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It didn't really even feel like a superhero movie, which is one of the things I really liked about. It just felt like a good action thriller sort of. My favorite MCU movie so far.
Yea, I'm going to say this is my favorite MCU film too, with Winter Soldier as a very close second. I know a lot of people say Winter Soldier is better, but I wonder how much of that is attributable to it being a much smaller more focused story, which this just never was meant to be.
Exactly why I think The Winter Soldier is the better film. It was much tighter narratively, and it will age better than most of the previous MCU entries. BUT I think Civil War will do the same thing AND will warrant more repeat viewings because of its shear joyful action, superhero interplay.
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You know, I'm reading a lot about how Civil War is super fun, with great action etc. And it totally is. But I'd hate for everything else to get lost. There's real heart in this film, with arguably the best Downy performance in an MCU film to date. There's just a lot more to this movie than fun and I'd hate for that to get lost.
Also, a thought I just had. Did Marvel just give us a great Superman in The Vision?
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Also, a thought I just had. Did Marvel just give us a great Superman in The Vision?
I have no idea what this means, but I feel like I probably cannot have it explained to me without spoiling things, and I am not able to see it for a couple of weeks. if you remember, remind me to come back to this.
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Did Marvel just give us a great Superman in The Vision?
Maybe. Maybe so.
This film just succeeds on every level. Yes, the action scenes are mind-boggling, but the acting is fantastic, as is the writing, as is the direction, as is the real heart shown by these characters.
Usually, in a film with this many characters, some of them feel shoehorned in. But not so in this film. Everything works perfectly, and all the characters have their place and are integral to the film. Staggering.
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I know it started as a joke but seriously, if DC just gave their rights to Marvel and let them make their movies for them, it would be a win-win. :lol
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Usually, in a film with this many characters, some of them feel shoehorned in. But not so in this film. Everything works perfectly, and all the characters have their place and are integral to the film. Staggering.
Agreed, and this is what has me excited that the Russos are handling Infinity Wars as well. Don't know that there's anybody I'd trust as much as them at this point to juggle everything that will be going on in those movies.
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Also, a thought I just had. Did Marvel just give us a great Superman in The Vision?
I have no idea what this means, but I feel like I probably cannot have it explained to me without spoiling things, and I am not able to see it for a couple of weeks. if you remember, remind me to come back to this.
I'll explain in tiny text so you can come back to it (I'll forget in a few weeks). Others can reply too (preferably in small text).
So Vision is essentially a non-human that is immensely powerful that is trying to understand what it means to be human. He has a very strong, unwavering moral center and fights for what he considers truth and justice. Beyond that when he's exploring his human side he is often socially awkward and rather nerdy, just like classic Clark. Beyond even that, his powers include flying, being impervious to most things, laser vision (kinda) and has a vulnerability to magic. I just feel like The Vision was portrayed as a lot of us hoped Superman would have been portrayed, and Marvel made it work on every level.
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Also, a thought I just had. Did Marvel just give us a great Superman in The Vision?
I have no idea what this means, but I feel like I probably cannot have it explained to me without spoiling things, and I am not able to see it for a couple of weeks. if you remember, remind me to come back to this.
I'll explain in tiny text so you can come back to it (I'll forget in a few weeks). Others can reply too (preferably in small text).
So Vision is essentially a non-human that is immensely powerful that is trying to understand what it means to be human. He has a very strong, unwavering moral center and fights for what he considers truth and justice. Beyond that when he's exploring his human side he is often socially awkward and rather nerdy, just like classic Clark. Beyond even that, his powers include flying, being impervious to most things, laser vision (kinda) and has a vulnerability to magic. I just feel like The Vision was portrayed as a lot of us hoped Superman would have been portrayed, and Marvel made it work on every level.
Pretty much that.
and the "magic" that he is vulnerable to was born from the same thing that made him.
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$680m opening weekend :rollin Holy Hell.
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^ p.s. I'm including all takings up til midnight on Sunday 8th.
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Also, a thought I just had. Did Marvel just give us a great Superman in The Vision?
I have no idea what this means, but I feel like I probably cannot have it explained to me without spoiling things, and I am not able to see it for a couple of weeks. if you remember, remind me to come back to this.
I'll explain in tiny text so you can come back to it (I'll forget in a few weeks). Others can reply too (preferably in small text).
So Vision is essentially a non-human that is immensely powerful that is trying to understand what it means to be human. He has a very strong, unwavering moral center and fights for what he considers truth and justice. Beyond that when he's exploring his human side he is often socially awkward and rather nerdy, just like classic Clark. Beyond even that, his powers include flying, being impervious to most things, laser vision (kinda) and has a vulnerability to magic. I just feel like The Vision was portrayed as a lot of us hoped Superman would have been portrayed, and Marvel made it work on every level.
Pretty much that.
and the "magic" that he is vulnerable to was born from the same thing that made him.
I don't really agree with this. Clark still grew up as a human and knows how to interract and is capable of being more of a casual human being. Vision acts like a stale machine, with his proper language and equations. So while that works really well for Vision in this movie, I personally feel that would make a really boring and even more unrelatable Superman.
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$680m opening weekend :rollin Holy Hell.
Domestic or worldwide? It's been out for a week almost everywhere except the US.
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$680m opening weekend :rollin Holy Hell.
Domestic or worldwide? It's been out for a week almost everywhere except the US.
Worldwide. has it been out a week ? I didn't realise that bit. Not quite so impressive then :)
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It's still gonna be massive anyway.
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Also, a thought I just had. Did Marvel just give us a great Superman in The Vision?
I have no idea what this means, but I feel like I probably cannot have it explained to me without spoiling things, and I am not able to see it for a couple of weeks. if you remember, remind me to come back to this.
I'll explain in tiny text so you can come back to it (I'll forget in a few weeks). Others can reply too (preferably in small text).
So Vision is essentially a non-human that is immensely powerful that is trying to understand what it means to be human. He has a very strong, unwavering moral center and fights for what he considers truth and justice. Beyond that when he's exploring his human side he is often socially awkward and rather nerdy, just like classic Clark. Beyond even that, his powers include flying, being impervious to most things, laser vision (kinda) and has a vulnerability to magic. I just feel like The Vision was portrayed as a lot of us hoped Superman would have been portrayed, and Marvel made it work on every level.
Pretty much that.
and the "magic" that he is vulnerable to was born from the same thing that made him.
I don't really agree with this. Clark still grew up as a human and knows how to interract and is capable of being more of a casual human being. Vision acts like a stale machine, with his proper language and equations. So while that works really well for Vision in this movie, I personally feel that would make a really boring and even more unrelatable Superman.
I mean, yes they're obviously not the same character and have different characteristics to a degree. But I feel like what we saw in The Vision is much closer to Superman than Superman was in BvS. Perfect? No. But much closer.
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Also, a thought I just had. Did Marvel just give us a great Superman in The Vision?
I have no idea what this means, but I feel like I probably cannot have it explained to me without spoiling things, and I am not able to see it for a couple of weeks. if you remember, remind me to come back to this.
I'll explain in tiny text so you can come back to it (I'll forget in a few weeks). Others can reply too (preferably in small text).
So Vision is essentially a non-human that is immensely powerful that is trying to understand what it means to be human. He has a very strong, unwavering moral center and fights for what he considers truth and justice. Beyond that when he's exploring his human side he is often socially awkward and rather nerdy, just like classic Clark. Beyond even that, his powers include flying, being impervious to most things, laser vision (kinda) and has a vulnerability to magic. I just feel like The Vision was portrayed as a lot of us hoped Superman would have been portrayed, and Marvel made it work on every level.
Pretty much that.
and the "magic" that he is vulnerable to was born from the same thing that made him.
I don't really agree with this. Clark still grew up as a human and knows how to interract and is capable of being more of a casual human being. Vision acts like a stale machine, with his proper language and equations. So while that works really well for Vision in this movie, I personally feel that would make a really boring and even more unrelatable Superman.
I mean, yes they're obviously not the same character and have different characteristics to a degree. But I feel like what we saw in The Vision is much closer to Superman than Superman was in BvS. Perfect? No. But much closer.
^ That exactly.
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Did we just become best friends?
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Friends that have the same great opinions on Marvel movies at least.
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I know it started as a joke but seriously, if DC just gave their rights to Marvel and let them make their movies for them, it would be a win-win. :lol
Do you mean WB? DC doesn't make DC movies. WB does. DC only has rights to make their straight to video animated movies, like the upcoming The Killing Joke
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I know it started as a joke but seriously, if DC just gave their rights to Marvel and let them make their movies for them, it would be a win-win. :lol
Do you mean WB? DC doesn't make DC movies. WB does. DC only has rights to make their straight to video animated movies, like the upcoming The Killing Joke
Yes
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I know it started as a joke but seriously, if DC just gave their rights to Marvel and let them make their movies for them, it would be a win-win. :lol
Do you mean WB? DC doesn't make DC movies. WB does. DC only has rights to make their straight to video animated movies, like the upcoming The Killing Joke
It's basically the same thing. Warner Brothers owns DC Comics. So when people say "DC making their own movies", that's what they mean. The part of the conglomerate that publishes comics is DC Comics, the part that make films and TV shows is Warner Brothers.
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Deadpool gag reel...................too funny.
NSFW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g49Z1BdUuMQ
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CW was great! Better than Ultron for sure and about on par with Winter Soldier. The fight scenes were masterfully done and the whole conflict between Cap and Iron Man was really well thought out and engaging. The Infinity War films are gonna be epic for sure!
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Also, a thought I just had. Did Marvel just give us a great Superman in The Vision?
Nah, War Machine is Superman. The Vision is his horse.
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Civil War was so damn good. They definitely did a great job of introducing the two new characters to the MCU
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my 5th time watching it. I still get stuff I missed from the other times I watched.and more views needed. Marvel set the bar on this bad boy. more I watch it...........the tension was built up perfectly. and set up Infinity to be a monster.
Spidey was awesome..........not sure in the future where he fits in. but we shall see,
Tony's arc has been so well done over these movies. as has Caps. more so than the rest. Stark.........love him or hate him...............the character is brilliant.love it. they capture the personalities and feelings that both have. On a personal level..there are no 2 u just ache to feel and know more.
Black Panther...............say hello to the next big thing. and Vision will play a huge role in Iinfinity
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You know, I'm reading a lot about how Civil War is super fun, with great action etc. And it totally is. But I'd hate for everything else to get lost. There's real heart in this film, with arguably the best Downy performance in an MCU film to date. There's just a lot more to this movie than fun and I'd hate for that to get lost.
Also, a thought I just had. Did Marvel just give us a great Superman in The Vision?
Oh yeah. I think the character of them is great. action aside. u feel their emotions.
this movie..........just fuckin rules
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Bucky didn't get his plums...
https://www.buzzfeed.com/keelyflaherty/give-bucky-the-plums?utm_term=.kgmPr46lM#.lgBwvzpZx
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That was hilarious :lol
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Finally watching Age of Ultron.
I was just thinking that Hawkeye's house looks like Jim Kirk's house
In the.....
Nick Fury says the word Nexus.
:| woah that's weird.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qIRtFE6aIc
Deadpool: Honest Trailer=brilliant
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I saw Civil War again. Just a note about Spider-Man....I think Tom Holland is a great Peter Parker. The best portrayal of Peter we've had so far. When he says he can't join the fight because of homework, that was brilliant and made every Spider-Man fan ever cheer. However, I still think at this point the best Spider-Man is still Andrew Garfield. I'll probably change my mind by the time we get Spider-Man: Homecoming since we only saw what probably is only a scratch of what's coming in the future. Garfield combined the intelligence, wit, and humanity of Spider-Man graciously. It's a shame those movies couldn't compliment his performance.
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What I think they did brilliantly was the way they introduced the "new Spidey". Holland was awesome and with this Marvel team they can make the figure brilliant.
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Finally watching Age of Ultron.
That was ok. Obviously not as good as the first one but it was entertaining...
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I thought Age Of Ultron was alright.
What is it people have problems with ?
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Ultron had its problems. not enough if u can get past some minor stuff, it is a good movie to set up future things, aka Civil War and in the long run Infinity. what they appear to be doing, albeit slight......but not..........is the Tony stark arc. that will play out. Vision will be a big part forward.......a semi extension in a way of Stark,What Civil War did was establish connection to the individuals. brilliant move by Marvel. most just see the action stuff, but marvel makes u care about the individuals.
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I thought Age Of Ultron was alright.
What is it people have problems with ?
It's not a bad movie, but it suffered from SOME similar problems as BvS. Way too much going on that wasn't handled properly. The entire beginning scene is out of nowhere. The bad guy is introduce and eliminated in like 10 minutes. Ultron himself.....well I'll get to that, but the plot was a bit all over the place too. Ultron's plan was just awful. The dude could shut down the internet, but instead wanted to turn a random city into a comet and destroy earth? Meh. "Not a great plan" as Tony Stark would say. The movie was also WAY too full of jokes. I love humor in the Marvel movies, but there needs to be a balance and the humor needs to be natural and fluid. It wasn't in Ultron. It was a lot of very forced jokes that were just there to have jokes.
I mostly enjoyed it, but it definitely wasn't written as well as it should have been.
This is probably because one guy was essentially doing it all by himself. At least with a movie like Civil War, you have 2 directors who are working closely with 2 writers to help each other out. I can't imagine a single individual being able to handle it any better than Joss did. But it shouldn't have been a one man job.
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the action is great in CW, but not over the top aka DC. glad the airport scene was not the end of the movie. which they could have done. what Marvel has done...tv and cinematic is make you care about the figures. more character driven than just an all out blow out action over the top stuff, although Ultron pushed that, but not like man of steel stuff.
he brothers know how to do super hero movie.
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I thought Age Of Ultron was alright.
What is it people have problems with ?
I mostly enjoyed it, but it definitely wasn't written as well as it should have been.
This is probably because one guy was essentially doing it all by himself. At least with a movie like Civil War, you have 2 directors who are working closely with 2 writers to help each other out. I can't imagine a single individual being able to handle it any better than Joss did. But it shouldn't have been a one man job.
Hence the Russo Brothers pure genius
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I thought Age Of Ultron was alright.
What is it people have problems with ?
It's not a bad movie, but it suffered from SOME similar problems as BvS. Way too much going on that wasn't handled properly. The entire beginning scene is out of nowhere. The bad guy is introduce and eliminated in like 10 minutes. Ultron himself.....well I'll get to that, but the plot was a bit all over the place too. Ultron's plan was just awful. The dude could shut down the internet, but instead wanted to turn a random city into a comet and destroy earth? Meh. "Not a great plan" as Tony Stark would say. The movie was also WAY too full of jokes. I love humor in the Marvel movies, but there needs to be a balance and the humor needs to be natural and fluid. It wasn't in Ultron. It was a lot of very forced jokes that were just there to have jokes.
I mostly enjoyed it, but it definitely wasn't written as well as it should have been.
This is probably because one guy was essentially doing it all by himself. At least with a movie like Civil War, you have 2 directors who are working closely with 2 writers to help each other out. I can't imagine a single individual being able to handle it any better than Joss did. But it shouldn't have been a one man job.
I agree with this.
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I like Age of Ultron more than the first Avengers movie.
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I like Age of Ultron more than the first Avengers movie.
Why?
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Why not? I mean, I definitely prefer the first one, and I think the second had a few shortcomings. But the second was easily still a really good movie. I certainly couldn't hold it against someone for preferring it.
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Oh yea, I totally forgot about the romance angle. The movie really didn't need that.
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Oh yea, I totally forgot about the romance angle. The movie really didn't need that.
yeah. pointless.
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Why not? I mean, I definitely prefer the first one, and I think the second had a few shortcomings. But the second was easily still a really good movie. I certainly couldn't hold it against someone for preferring it.
I'm not holding it against him. I was just curious why he felt that way, since the overwhelming majority view is that Ultron is at least somewhat inferior to the original.
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I'm just hoping Infinity Wars don't end with The Avengers fighting a huge disposable army...........again. Glad Civil War avoided that one.
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I think referring to them as "disposable" is incredibly degrading and insensitive. #chitaurilivesmatter
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I like Age of Ultron more than the first Avengers movie.
Why?
It's probably more to do with me never really being a huge fan of the first Avengers movie in the first place, rather than me thinking Age of Ultron is the bee's knees. The first movie has plenty good moments, but the overall conflict always felt thin to me, and I always thought the entire end battle is pretty meh. And the phantom menace ending is still a real disappointment.
Overall I just had more fun with Age of Ultron and something about the movie just made it feel like the stakes were higher. Or more personal at least, I'm not really sure.
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I think referring to them as "disposable" is incredibly degrading and insensitive. #chitaurilivesmatter
I was referring to the Ultron robots. #robotlivesdontmatter
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I think referring to them as "disposable" is incredibly degrading and insensitive. #chitaurilivesmatter
I was referring to the Ultron robots. #robotlivesdontmatter
Well at least they took all of those out, instead of them all just dropping dead so that the movie can end.
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I think referring to them as "disposable" is incredibly degrading and insensitive. #chitaurilivesmatter
I was referring to the Ultron robots. #robotlivesdontmatter
Well at least they took all of those out, instead of them all just dropping dead so that the movie can end.
Sure. Better, but still not good.
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I'm just hoping Infinity Wars don't end with The Avengers fighting a huge disposable army...........again. Glad Civil War avoided that one.
agree, I said the same earlier. they did CW well in that aspect
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I think referring to them as "disposable" is incredibly degrading and insensitive. #chitaurilivesmatter
I was referring to the Ultron robots. #robotlivesdontmatter
Well at least they took all of those out, instead of them all just dropping dead so that the movie can end.
Sure. Better, but still not good.
I actually agree, though I think it will probably be difficult to avoid considering what they're up against. But if they have to have a giant disposable army, I hope they don't use it for the final fight. Have the army lead into the climax instead of being it. There's certainly potential for that to be possible.
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I think the challenge Infinity Wars faces is making a credible threat.
Is Thanos going to destroy the universe? No. We all know he isn't. There's no suspense because we know it won't happen.
Is Thanos going to destroy earth? No. Same answer.
Is Thanos going to kill a few of the Avengers? Possibly! Make those the stakes.
Ultron didn't work because we never believed for a second that Ultron could win. Thor 2 didn't work because we didn't believe for a second that the Elf dude would win.
Civil War worked because we had no idea how it would end. It certainly didn't end how I assumed it would.
Infinity Wars just needs a credible threat that the audience isn't confident will be perfectly okay.
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Just spitballing here, but if the way Stark's arc is, he will not create an army. he learned that the hard way. but did/and is learning. I still say Vision will be huge in Infinity. It will be interesting to see how they/who steps up against Thanos.
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*post about stakes*
Very true.
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Anyway. gonna pop in CW again. and pour a bourbon.
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oh yeah you had a screener.
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yeah, watermark in the beginning but after 10 seconds gone. I still went and saw it in the theater. but it is still good in my man cave :laugh:
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PM :p
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I think the challenge Infinity Wars faces is making a credible threat.
Is Thanos going to destroy the universe? No. We all know he isn't. There's no suspense because we know it won't happen.
Is Thanos going to destroy earth? No. Same answer.
Is Thanos going to kill a few of the Avengers? Possibly! Make those the stakes.
Ultron didn't work because we never believed for a second that Ultron could win. Thor 2 didn't work because we didn't believe for a second that the Elf dude would win.
I thought those movies "worked" just fine. By your criteria, the vast majority of comic book stories "don't work", since we all know the main characters aren't going to (permanently) die.
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I think the challenge Infinity Wars faces is making a credible threat.
Is Thanos going to destroy the universe? No. We all know he isn't. There's no suspense because we know it won't happen.
Is Thanos going to destroy earth? No. Same answer.
Is Thanos going to kill a few of the Avengers? Possibly! Make those the stakes.
Ultron didn't work because we never believed for a second that Ultron could win. Thor 2 didn't work because we didn't believe for a second that the Elf dude would win.
I thought those movies "worked" just fine. By your criteria, the vast majority of comic book stories "don't work", since we all know the main characters aren't going to (permanently) die.
I completely agree with you.
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The movies mostly worked, but the finales didn't. Though I'll credit Thor 2 for their creative fight scene at the end.
It's about what's at stake, not just about people dying. Most Superhero movies aren't about the world being in jeopardy, they're about a hero having a journey. When you make huge threats and then hinge those movies on those threats, then those threats have to be credible.
And I felt absolutely nothing for the last act of Ultron. I liked the movie just fine, but there's no excitement when the threat is just so absurd.
Don't get me wrong, if you loved those movies and think the final acts are great, then awesome. I love it when people love comic book movies, especially Marvel movies. I was just expressing a hope I had. I doubt, if my ideas were implemented, it would ruin anything for you, so it's a win-win for you. If they keep doing what they have (not these writers) then you're good. If they raise it to my standards, we're both good. :)
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Hence why Stark is so important in the Marvel movie universe.
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What's everyone's favourite and least favourite MCU movie so far ?
1. Favourite : Avengers, Ant Man, GOTG
2. Least Favourite : Iron Man 2, Thor, Hulk
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Favorites: Civil War, Winter Soldier, Avengers
Least favorites: Iron Man 2, both Thor films
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Favorite: The Winter Solider, Guardians of the Galaxy, Civil War
Least: Age of Ultron, Iron Man 2, Iron Man 3
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Eh, boring. Instead of ranking, let's get creative.
If each Marvel Universe movie were a DT album, which one would it be? GOGOGO!
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Loads of ways to interpret that, but this is my rankings of the DT albums, compared to my probable rankings of the MCU.
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence - Civil War
Train of Thought - Guardians of the Galaxy
Octavarium - Age of Ultron
Systematic Chaos - Winter Soldier
Images & Words - Iron Man
Metropolis - Part 2: Scenes From a Memory - The Avengers
A Dramatic Turn of Events - The Incredible Hulk
Awake - Thor: The Dark World
Falling Into Infinity - Iron Man 2
Black Clouds & Silver Linings - Captain America
The Astonishing - Ant-Man
Dream Theater - Iron Man 3
When Dream & Day Unite - Thor
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Favorites: Civil War, Winter Soldier, Avengers
Least favorites: Iron Man 2, both Thor films
So This. In perfect agreement Hef!
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I'll keep it to two each.
Favorite. Civil War, Winter Soldier.
Least. Thor 2. Iron Man 2.
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Yeah they haven't really nailed a sequel - apart from Winter Soldier - which was massively better than Captain America.
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Yeah they haven't really nailed a sequel - apart from Winter Soldier - which was massively better than Captain America.
True. Iron Man 3 was good though, minus the last battle.
I'm hoping GOTG 2 is better than the first. As much as I loved most of the movie, it had some REALLY weak writing.
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I'll keep it to two each.
Favorite. Civil War, Winter Soldier.
Least. Thor 2. Iron Man 2.
I would say the Hulk movie was my least favorite and to be honest, that movie and your two picks are not bad at all.
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Wrong thread.
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Loads of ways to interpret that, but this is my rankings of the DT albums, compared to my probable rankings of the MCU.
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence - Civil War
Train of Thought - Guardians of the Galaxy
Octavarium - Age of Ultron
Systematic Chaos - Winter Soldier
Images & Words - Iron Man
Metropolis - Part 2: Scenes From a Memory - The Avengers
A Dramatic Turn of Events - The Incredible Hulk
Awake - Thor: The Dark World
Falling Into Infinity - Iron Man 2
Black Clouds & Silver Linings - Captain America
The Astonishing - Ant-Man
Dream Theater - Iron Man 3
When Dream & Day Unite - Thor
I love you....but this may be the dorkiest post I've ever seen...
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Wait....it was Bosk's idea....that makes it even better.
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I would never pass up the chance to rank two things at once! ;)
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Oh, one quick thought. I really loved the appearance of the dora milaje in Civil War. Just a nice detail for fans of the comics.
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Oh, one quick thought. I really loved the appearance of the dora milaje in Civil War. Just a nice detail for fans of the comics.
Agree
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I`ll do a ranking of the MCU-movies so far:
Captain America: Civil War
Captain America: Winter Soldier
The Avengers
Iron Man
Ant Man
Guardians of the Galaxy
Avengers: Age Of Ultron
Captain America - The First Avenger
Thor
Iron Man 3
The Incredible Hulk
Iron Man 2
Thor: The Dark World
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Gonna grab a second viewing tonight. Is it fair that, after a week now, we don't need to use small font, and can openly discuss?
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Well this is a SPOILER thread ... :dunno:
If you come in here and get a film spoiled then that's your fault.
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Eh, boring. Instead of ranking, let's get creative.
If each Marvel Universe movie were a DT album, which one would it be? GOGOGO!
Nnnnnnnnnno.
Favorites: Civil War, Winter Soldier, Avengers
Least favorites: Iron Man 2, both Thor films
So This. In perfect agreement Hef!
o/
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Civil War again going in now :metal
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USE PLENTY OF LUBE
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Will do Sir.
The more I watch it the better it gets.
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My ranking of MCU movies:
1. Captain America: The Winter Solider
2. Captain America: Civil War
3. Guardians of the Galaxy
4. Iron Man
5. The Incredible Hulk
6. Thor
7. The Avengers
8. Captain America: The First Avenger
9. Ant-Man
10. Thor: The Dark World
11. Iron Man 3
12. Avengers: Age of Ultron
13. Iron Man 2
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I think I must be the only one who wasn't over the moon for GOTG. I liked it plenty, but man did it have a lot of writing problems.
Ronan was a horribly written character. This is a real shame because he would have been awesome if they just kept him like the comics. In the movie I had no idea what his motivation was beyond generic bad guy revenge stuff. The dialogue between Thanos and anyone was awful. The plot, in general was really weak. And, sadly, Gamora was terribly cast. And man, did they ruin Xandar and the Nova Corps.
That said, they really did a great job with Star Lord, Rocket, Groot and Drax. And it was very fun and very well directed.
The sequel has a lot of things going for it and I'm hoping it's handled better. Of course if it's as good as the first one, it looks like everyone but me will be perfectly pleased so it's a win-win for them.
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Unfortunately, most MCU villains are like that. Loki, Red Skull, Pierce, and Blonsky are the tightest written villains yet. You wrote some concerns about Thanos in Infinity Wars in an earlier post, and I share your concerns.
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Unfortunately, most MCU villains are like that. Loki, Red Skull, Pierce, and Blonsky are the tightest written villains yet. You wrote some concerns about Thanos in Infinity Wars in an earlier post, and I share your concerns.
Oh I know, I just felt like Ronan had a lot of potential. I mean....his entire way of thinking is based in draconian justice....up against a band of outlaws. How does that go wrong? Instead we have a guy who wants to destroy a planet because his people made peace with them? Meh.
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Agent Carter cancelled.
https://www.comingsoon.net/tv/news/685987-agent-carter-cancelled#/slide/1
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That series was ok but I will not lose sleep over it. I love what Marvel is doing movie and tv wise, just do not spread it to much.
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Agent Carter cancelled.
https://www.comingsoon.net/tv/news/685987-agent-carter-cancelled#/slide/1
I'm okay with that. I would have been fine with it just being a one season show, really liked the first season but not the second.
In similar news, the proposed spinoff of Agents "America's Most Wanted" with those two kids that left the show has officially been rejected. Also perfectly okay with that.
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agree on both.
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Agent Carter cancelled.
https://www.comingsoon.net/tv/news/685987-agent-carter-cancelled#/slide/1
Coincidentally (?) they just showed a newspaper head in the last episode of S.H.I.E.L.D. reporting her death in present day. :sad:
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I'm actually happy Agent Carter was cancelled. I want to follow anything MCU related, but season 2 was pretty bad, so at least I won't have to sit through any more of that.
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Agent Carter cancelled.
https://www.comingsoon.net/tv/news/685987-agent-carter-cancelled#/slide/1
Coincidentally (?) they just showed a newspaper head in the last episode of S.H.I.E.L.D. reporting her death in present day. :sad:
Guess you haven't seen Civil War yet, eh?
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:hat
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Agent Carter cancelled.
https://www.comingsoon.net/tv/news/685987-agent-carter-cancelled#/slide/1
Coincidentally (?) they just showed a newspaper head in the last episode of S.H.I.E.L.D. reporting her death in present day. :sad:
Guess you haven't seen Civil War yet, eh?
lol
I'm OK with Agent Carter being cancelled, and with Most Wanted not getting ordered. But I hate that Bobbi and Hunter left Agents of SHIELD for basically nothing now.
Hopefully their characters can be reintegrated into that show.
BTW, James D'Arcy was nice as Jarvis on Agent Carter. But I am now (finally) watching season 2 of Broadchuch, where he plays a very different character, and it is a little unnerving. He is apparently a fantastic actor.
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Odd how I couldn't get into any of the Marvel TV series SHIELD or Agent Carter yet love the Netflix series Marvel has done with them.
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Ranking? Ok, let's do this!
1. Winter Soldier
2. Guardians of the Galaxy
3. Avengers
4. Civil War
5. Iron Man
6. Ultron
7. Captain America
8. Ant-Man
9. Iron Man 3
10. Thor
11. Incredible Hulk
12. Iron Man 2
13. The Dark World
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Odd how I couldn't get into any of the Marvel TV series SHIELD or Agent Carter yet love the Netflix series Marvel has done with them.
I don't think it's odd. The tone for the ABC shows is completely different than the tone for the Netflix shows. Makes sense that one or the other wouldn't appeal to some fans.
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It's a shame that the first half of Agents of Shield season 1 was so mediocre. It feels like they lost so many viewers that could have been there now that the show's actually good and interesting.
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I don't think I could confidently rank all the MCU films in full, but:
Favorites: Civil War, Iron Man, Winter Soldier
Least Favorites: Hulk, Dark World, Iron Main 2
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Finally saw Deadpool. Loved it. Surprisingly my girlfriend did as well.
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Looks like Marvel has poached another Human Torch. Michael B. Jordan has joined Black Panther. No word on his character yet. I love it.
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Cast ALL the black actors!
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#marvelsoblack
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Cast ALL the black actors!
Well, they definitely focus on casting all the GOOD actors, regardless of race.
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Cast ALL the black actors!
Well, they definitely focus on casting all the GOOD actors, regardless of race.
True, but in a movie based in Africa, they might be considering race this time too.
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Finally saw Civil War. What I love about a Russo Brothers directed film is how they seamlessly meld the real action with the CGI action and the dialogue is so well written you forget this is an action film.
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Ok, so now that it's been out 10 days, I'm going non-small font spoilers.
So much awesomeness with this, and I'm so glad that I didn't watch all the spots/featurettes etc... The double meaning to the 'civil war' was awesome, and a very nice twist to setup the final fight. The ode's to the real civil way comics were nice (Sharon's eulogy; Friday analyzing the fighting moves - though, in record time, the new spider suit, the repulsor blast-vs-shield). The acting, the action, the comedy, the fight sequences, the storyline, the motivations for everyone taking the side that they did (Natasha taking Tony's side was a bit of a stretch) .... all virtually flawless. I give it a 9.5/10
Nitpicking though (and this is why it's VIRTUALLY flawless)
- Sharon/Cap/Falco getting from London to Vienna in the blink of an eye.
- How did Team Iron know to go to the airport? Natasha made mention of 'I know someone who knows where they are'
- Were those Stormtroopers shooting at Bucky? They could only hit his arm/hand?
- convenient that there was a camera down the middle of a back/dirt road to film the hit on the Stark's
- Quite the series of events to perfectly time getting Cap/Bucky/Tony at that Hydra base in Siberia all at the same time.
- Seriously, how did Rhodes survive that fall? How much insulation is there inside the suit?
But like I said... that was nitpicking. Could very well be the best MCU movie. Definitely Top 3.
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Ok, so now that it's been out 10 days, I'm going non-small font spoilers.
So much awesomeness with this, and I'm so glad that I didn't watch all the spots/featurettes etc... The double meaning to the 'civil war' was awesome, and a very nice twist to setup the final fight. The ode's to the real civil way comics were nice (Sharon's eulogy; Friday analyzing the fighting moves - though, in record time, the new spider suit, the repulsor blast-vs-shield). The acting, the action, the comedy, the fight sequences, the storyline, the motivations for everyone taking the side that they did (Natasha taking Tony's side was a bit of a stretch) .... all virtually flawless. I give it a 9.5/10
Nitpicking though (and this is why it's VIRTUALLY flawless)
- Sharon/Cap/Falco getting from London to Vienna in the blink of an eye.
- How did Team Iron know to go to the airport? Natasha made mention of 'I know someone who knows where they are'
- Were those Stormtroopers shooting at Bucky? They could only hit his arm/hand?
- convenient that there was a camera down the middle of a back/dirt road to film the hit on the Stark's
- Quite the series of events to perfectly time getting Cap/Bucky/Tony at that Hydra base in Siberia all at the same time.
- Seriously, how did Rhodes survive that fall? How much insulation is there inside the suit?
But like I said... that was nitpicking. Could very well be the best MCU movie. Definitely Top 3.
I'll agree with things really needing to happen for Zemo's plan at the end to work out and the guys only hitting Bucky's arm. The rest, suspension of disbelief takes care of for me.
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how did Rhodes survive that fall? How much insulation is there inside the suit?
Yeah, he would totally just be a Rhodey-soup inside that suite after that fall. I would have preferred it if he actually died there, but whatever. I still loved the movie.
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I just saw Age of Ultron and there's a scene where Ultron throws Don Cheadle through a window and he falls like 20+ feet onto solid floor.
I assumed he was obviously dead - but no - back in next scene just fine.
Even the humans in movies are superhuman.
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I just saw Age of Ultron and there's a scene where Ultron throws Don Cheadle through a window and he falls like 20+ feet onto solid floor.
I assumed he was obviously dead - but no - back in next scene just fine.
Even the humans in movies are superhuman.
To be fair, this applies to almost every film with a super element. How many times have you seen a super strong person hit someone and make them fly back 20 feet? Being hit with that much force would destroy you or at least crush most of your bones. It happens.
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Civil War has made more money than Batman V Superman already and has been out for like a quarter of the time.
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I saw Civil War this weekend and really enjoyed it. Spiderman was really well done, "Dude, you have a metal arm. That's so cool!"
I'm not sure why it's being hailed as the best of the bunch though. I think Guardians of the Galaxy, Winter Solider, The Avengers, and Ironman were all better...but just a bit.
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It's a shame that the first half of Agents of Shield season 1 was so mediocre. It feels like they lost so many viewers that could have been there now that the show's actually good and interesting.
I'm still not sure how I feel about the current storyline. It is cool, but...I'm not really able to put into words why I don't like it as much as I did last season. Maybe that's because I still cannot decide whether a couple of the characters have gone in directions with their personal arcs that I don't believe vs. simply do not like. Maybe that will be resolved once I catch up on the last few episodes. I have avoided watching because I have not yet been able to see Civil War, and will not be able to do so for another week or two. On that note, I am already having to scroll past spoiler posts to avoid reading them, so I will have to avoid this thread altogether for a bit.
But as for the first half of season 1, I have mixed feelings about it. It certainly was a bit more random, and the storyline perhaps wasn't as good. But it really was simply about the formation of the team. And to that end, it did its job. Once the role of the team took on a more firm and interesting direction (and as it was revealed to the creative team that they would be building on the events of The Winter Soldier and on the discovery of the inhumans), things ramped up quite well. I don't really think season 1 was "mediocre." It just perhaps wasn't as focused as the series would later become.
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I am just really curious about how in the world the iteration of the Inhumans on Agents of SHIELD, with Hive as the super-Inhuman, will in any way dovetail with the royal family of the Inhumans, whom I would assume will be the stars of the Inhumans film.
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Lets be honest. A show has to grow and not many shows are that mind blowing in the first season. It takes time to feel the acting and the writing out.
I am just really curious about how in the world the iteration of the Inhumans on Agents of SHIELD, with Hive as the super-Inhuman, will in any way dovetail with the royal family of the Inhumans, whom I would assume will be the stars of the Inhumans film.
Great question and since they delayed it, who knows where they are going with it now.
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Yeah, but it is ONLY delayed, not canceled.
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I'm surprised they didn't confirm it being cancelled since it's pretty clear they have no plans to make it. We definitely won't see it before 2025 at least.
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Right. They are full on tackling the Inhumans on TV and they like to link the timelines with the movies so I wonder what the movie delay will do to the TV show.
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I am just really curious about how in the world the iteration of the Inhumans on Agents of SHIELD, with Hive as the super-Inhuman, will in any way dovetail with the royal family of the Inhumans, whom I would assume will be the stars of the Inhumans film.
Given the direction SHIELD is taking with the Inhumans, I wonder if the "royal family" will even come into play. I could see the MCU taking a completely different direction and there not even being a royal family. It would seem odd for them not to have been mentioned at this stage in the game, given that several characters revealed thus far would surely have knowledge of them if they exist in the MCU. Seems like it would be difficult to explain away. And I think that the longer we have an Inhumans story arc developing in AOS without any mention of them, the bigger a stretch it will be to explain away the failure to mention them. But who knows?
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I am just really curious about how in the world the iteration of the Inhumans on Agents of SHIELD, with Hive as the super-Inhuman, will in any way dovetail with the royal family of the Inhumans, whom I would assume will be the stars of the Inhumans film.
Given the direction SHIELD is taking with the Inhumans, I wonder if the "royal family" will even come into play. I could see the MCU taking a completely different direction and there not even being a royal family. It would seem odd for them not to have been mentioned at this stage in the game, given that several characters revealed thus far would surely have knowledge of them if they exist in the MCU. Seems like it would be difficult to explain away. And I think that the longer we have an Inhumans story arc developing in AOS without any mention of them, the bigger a stretch it will be to explain away the failure to mention them. But who knows?
The best I can think of is that the royal family (along with a bunch of Inhumans) live on the moon on Attilan and have been completely isolated from Earth. It would mostly be in line with the comics and would explain why no one on earth (thus far) has mentioned them.
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I get that. And maybe my misgivings come from my ignorance of the Inhumans in general from the comics (I never read anything relating to them). But it just seems odd to me that Jia Ying, Gordon, Lincoln, or Hive would not at least have known they existed. And given that, it would seem odd that they would not have been mentioned yet, as their existence would certainly have been relevant to events that have taken place thus far. But maybe not. :dunno: I guess we'll see.
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I guess we'll see.
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Beat you to it.
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Civil War has made more money than Batman V Superman already and has been out for like a quarter of the time.
And rightly so. BvS blew chunks.
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I'm surprised they didn't confirm it being cancelled since it's pretty clear they have no plans to make it. We definitely won't see it before 2025 at least.
No such thing is "pretty clear." Kevin Feige spoke about it just the other day.
Phase 3 was already going to be bigger than Phase 1 or 2, and that was before they added Ant-Man & The Wasp and Spider-Man: Homecoming to the mix. They just removed it from Phase 3, but he said they still love the story and the characters and no way is it canceled. He has no reason to lie about that.
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agree. Marvel is a well oiled machine at his moment. No reason to lie about anything. If you are pushing back something etc. Say it up front and move on.
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Obviously one huge problem they have is timelines and the complete lack of communication between the TV guys and the movie guys.
To make a movie like Inhumans, they need to have the story planned out a few years before it comes out. Shield, on the other hand, makes their decisions way later. If they decide where the Inhumans story line will have to be 3 years down the line, that limits where Shield can go. If Shield keep doing their thing, then it's impossible for Marvel to be able to plan a movie around it. Best case scenario is for Shield to take the focus off of Inhumans after this season. Keep them as the Secret Warriors and move on to other threats and so forth. Then the movie can figure out where it needs to be and not be impeded by Shield.
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Or AOS may simply end, in which case there are no potential conflicts to resolve.
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Or AOS may simply end, in which case there are no potential conflicts to resolve.
A very possible, though slightly more disappointing possibility.
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I am a Marvel geek, but I do not really think they are worried about the TV vs. cinema tie ins. I may be wrong, just my opinion. I think what they have done in the cinematic universe is and has been stand alone. Sure there are small tie ins with tv but most part the "average" film going person would have to at least seen Winter Soldier and AOU to fully "get" Civil War.
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I am a Marvel geek, but I do not really think they are worried about the TV vs. cinema tie ins. I may be wrong, just my opinion. I think what they have done in the cinematic universe is and has been stand alone. Sure there are small tie ins with tv but most part the "average" film going person would have to at least seen Winter Soldier and AOU to fully "get" Civil War.
Most films, sure. But then again, most of the films also don't effect the other aside from minor points and character development. And the show has almost no influence on the movies, but the movies do influence the show at times. Let's not forget Winter Soldier completely changed Shield.
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Agree. I meant to add that last point you made. For the geeks like us/many I do think it matters more to us than the "casual" fan. Likewise with the Star Wars franchise. The geeks (I Included) tend to over analyze). Marvel is making their money pit on the films. They need to have the "average" person want to spend money to see the film. The tv...........well it is on regulalar tv or Netflix. Their money grabber is film.
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I'll be honest, I think you would see more interplay between film and TV if Agents of SHIELD did better in the ratings. It is not a really successful show, and was fortunate to get picked up for the upcoming season.
Fans of the films pay money hand over fist for the next entry in the MCU, but they won't take an hour a week to watch the TV show.
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I'll be honest, I think you would see more interplay between film and TV if Agents of SHIELD did better in the ratings. It is not a really successful show, and was fortunate to get picked up for the upcoming season.
Fans of the films pay money hand over fist for the next entry in the MCU, but they won't take an hour a week to watch the TV show.
Maybe, but there are definitely limits to how much the movies can reference the tv shows, since they operate on such different timeframes. Relatively easy for the shows to reference events in the movies in real time, but much harder the other way around. I would like to see some of the tv characters at least have cameos in the movies, though.
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I would like to see some of the tv characters at least have cameos in the movies, though.
Same here. I am actually surprised they didn't have that happen in Civil War. It would have been perfect for it. Even if it was a minor role, I'm shocked that we didn't at least have a passing reference to Daredevil, any specific Inhumans, etc., even if they didn't actually appear in the film.
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Well, Civil War is packed full of stuff. If they included any TV characters in it as well, it would have seemed fake, like they were doing it just to do it. Nothing else in the film feels like that.
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I get that that is a danger. But, for example, in IM2(?), there was a news report on Tony's TV that had the military battling Hulk, so you got the feel for the universe being bigger than the events in that single movie without it feeling gratuitous and fake. It can be done. I'm not saying have full scenes featuring anyone from any of the TV series. But they could have incorporated something subtle like the Hulk thing to acknowledge the existence of other MCU characters that are not directly appearing at the center of the conflict that is onscreen.
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I get that that is a danger. But, for example, in IM2(?), there was a news report on Tony's TV that had the military battling Hulk, so you got the feel for the universe being bigger than the events in that single movie without it feeling gratuitous and fake. It can be done. I'm not saying have full scenes featuring anyone from any of the TV series. But they could have incorporated something subtle like the Hulk thing to acknowledge the existence of other MCU characters that are not directly appearing at the center of the conflict that is onscreen.
I totally agree. They don't even have to reference plot points, but characters (assuming they know they'll still be alive on the show when the movie is released) shouldn't be terribly hard.
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I still think that is two separate things. It's a cool thing for IM2 to reference the Hulk, because most of the people in the IM2 audience will know the Hulk.
Judging by the ratings on Agents on SHIELD, not very many of the audience of Civil War would be familiar with characters from SHIELD. So, again, that particular thing would seem like a needless throwaway, something more suited to DC than to Marvel.
Just my two cents.
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Ratings are a funny thing though. In my entire lifetime, I know of a total of two people who have at one time had a Neilsen box in their home, and one was on this forum. If ratings come from such a tiny sliver of society, how accurate can they be?
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I still think that is two separate things. It's a cool thing for IM2 to reference the Hulk, because most of the people in the IM2 audience will know the Hulk.
Judging by the ratings on Agents on SHIELD, not very many of the audience of Civil War would be familiar with characters from SHIELD. So, again, that particular thing would seem like a needless throwaway, something more suited to DC than to Marvel.
Just my two cents.
True, but would it be any different than a reference to the comics that the casual movie goer won't know? I mean, different Marvel movies have made some really awesome references to the comics. Some of them I got, some were even too obscure for me. Didn't hurt the movie in the slightest. So a reference to Shield will just make people like me excited, while the casual moviegoer just won't pick up on it.
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Speaking of Agents of Shield, the 2 hour season 3 finale was last night. I thought it was really good, with some truly great moments there towards the end.
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I haven't watched it yet, or the prior episode either, for that matter. Holding off until after I see Civil War, since there may be minor spoilers (or so I have been led to believe).
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Yeah I get that, I would have done the same.
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I haven't watched it yet, or the prior episode either, for that matter. Holding off until after I see Civil War, since there may be minor spoilers (or so I have been led to believe).
I saw the episode before I saw Civil War, and I don't think there were any real spoilers. It was all stuff that you could deduce from the trailers, I think.
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Amazing finale. Damn.
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Amazing finale. Damn.
^This. I'm still a bit stunned
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Yes, what a great ending to a season.
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Yes, what a great ending to a season.
I'm not sure how I felt about the 6 months (or however long) later thing. I guess we'll see next season.
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I agree but it lead to a ton of questions so we both felt like, "What? Where are they going with this"? "6 months"?!
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I loved the stuff they showed after the time jump, I only thought the jump itself was a bit abrupt. As in like the editing of the actual jump.
"So what no.."
6 MONTHS LATER!!
oh shit okay i guess
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One thing that I thought was super cool in this episode was that they got the explosion in space perfect. No sound and the fire ball only lasted as long as there was oxygen available and then quickly snuffed out. Not as dramatic as a stupid Star Wars or Star Trek space explosions, but I was pretty geeked at the thoughtfulness.
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Yeah and that scene with Lincoln and Hive just having a "normal" conversation before the blast was so good.
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Wow.
Marvel Studios Confirms Stellar New Cast Members of the Highly Anticipated 'Thor: Ragnarok' (https://marvel.com/news/movies/26203/marvel_studios_confirms_stellar_new_cast_members_of_the_highly_anticipated_thor_ragnarok)
Two-time Oscar®-winner Cate Blanchett (“Blue Jasmine,” “Carol, “Cinderella”) joins Marvel Studios’ “Thor: Ragnarok” as the mysterious and powerful new villain Hela, along with Jeff Goldblum (the upcoming “Independence Day: Resurgence,” “The Grand Budapest Hotel,” “Jurassic Park”) who joins the cast as the eccentric Grandmaster, Tessa Thompson (“Creed,” “Selma”) who will bring the classic hero Valkyrie to life on the big screen, and Karl Urban (“Star Trek” trilogy, “The Lord of the Rings: Return of the King”) who will add his might to the fray as Skurge.
Rounding out the cast for the film is three-time Oscar®-nominee Mark Ruffalo (“Spotlight,” “The Kids Are All Right,” “Foxcatcher”), reprising his role of Bruce Banner/the Hulk from “Marvel’s The Avengers” and Marvel’s “Avengers: Age of Ultron.”
“The continuation of the epic Thor franchise will be powerful and unique, and with the additions of Cate, Jeff, Tessa, Karl, and Mark to the cast we have the makings of his most dangerous and heroic adventure yet,” said Producer Kevin Feige. “The sheer, raw talent each of these actors brings to the screen can’t be quantified. Having any one of them join the Marvel Cinematic Universe would be an honor, and having all of them is incredible."
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Also, as of today, Captain America: Civil War is the 25th film to hit the $ 1 billion mark (and the 4th Marvel film to do so). It accomplished the feat in 24 days, the same amount of time it took Age of Ultron to hit the mark (which ended up with $1.4 billion).
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Captain America: Civil War
Civil War was amazing. Might be my favorite MCU film. I'd definitely put it up there with the likes of Iron Man and The Winter Soldier. Nothing against Joss Whedon, I think he did an amazing and in a lot of ways groundbreaking thing by integrating the main characters of four different film franchises to create a quality picture in The Avengers, and I think he did well at expanding on that in Age of Ultron. But I think the Russo Brothers are a better fit for the MCU going forward. With Winter Soldier they showed their capability of doing a quality superhero movie that is told on a simultaneously epic and personal scale, and with Civil War they have now proven their ability to handle a large ensemble cast. I think there's more drama in Civil War than in either of Whedon's films. Part of that is that they had an inherently more dramatic premise to work with, but I think they executed on it well, and think that they are the best people to handle the marquee pictures going forward. I'm very confident in Infinity War with them at the helm.
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
Amazing finale. Damn.
Yep. So many questions that I guess will have to wait until September. I'm honestly probably more invested in this show than I am in the film universe right now. Not to say that I'm not invested in the film universe, I am (especially with some great developments in Civil War), but I spend much more time with the AoS characters and I feel more personally connected to them.
**SPOILERS FOLLOW**
I'm a little disappointed to see Brett Dalton almost certainly leave the cast. I loved the Ward character; he's one of my favorite TV villains ever. And I thought Brett made a great transition into playing the role of Hive. I had partially expected them to end the Hive story arc by having Hive vacate Ward's now intact body, leaving Ward alive. And I think they kind of teased that with the part where he kept going in and out of Ward's memories. I'll definitely miss Brett. But at the same time, I appreciate that they're willing to take the risk of killing off a major character who I assume was liked by many fans. Something I hope they do in the films in the near future.
Also, everybody else caught Coulson referring to "the Director," right? I assume that this means there is a new Director of S.H.I.E.L.D. with Coulson stepping down, either because he doesn't want/feels he shouldn't have the authority of Director, or because someone forces him to. Perhaps it's a consequence of the military having to come in and take over their base. Who is the Director now? May? Perhaps? We know it's not Daisy, Mack or Fitzsimmons. Alternately, I suppose it could be Maria Hill, General Talbot, or even (though I doubt it) Nick Fury. Or else an as yet to be revealed character.
Also, is Daisy promising to introduce the mother and daughter to Cal? Is he coming back? I hope so.
**END SPOILERS**
Thor: Ragnarok
Wow.
That's pretty stunning. Hopefully Ragnarok is a big step up from the previous two Thor films. The presence of the Hulk is definitely promising. It looks like they're planning to go all-out.
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Saw Civil War. Other than the usual complaints, it was pretty great. Spiderman was fun, but I didn't think he was "all that." One thing that repeatedly frustrates me about movies lately, and this one did it as well, is the seeming obsession with impossibly short timelines. 36 hours to assemble the team (including recruiting a new guy and getting him outfitted with a completely new, combat-ready suit), find Cap's team that has gone into hiding somewhere in the world, and stop them? Why even do that? It is completely unnecessary. Why not just have it play out over several days or a few weeks, which would have been much more realistic? I don't understand.
But those issues aside, still really good. No idea where I will rank it yet. But it also largely doesn't matter. It is, as expected, just another quality piece of storytelling from Marvel, which is all I could ask for.
Now to catch up on AoS and then on to Daredevil...
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Caught up on AOS last night. Wow.
Yeah and that scene with Lincoln and Hive just having a "normal" conversation before the blast was so good.
That was really the first glimpse into Hive being more than a "villain." I mean, he had talked about wanting to basically wanting to remake the earth and thereby benefit humanity and inhumans, but this conversation was the first moment where I felt like, "yeah, it truly believes it was trying to do something good." I thought that was cool.
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Yeah, good finale.
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Certainly questions raised by the 6 month flash forward that I'm looking forward to having answered in the fall.
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Also, the show deserves props for the effects for Hive's "monster-face". I was expecting that to look really wonky but it actually looked pretty great.
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Yeah, it really did.
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Not movie related.
So apparently Marvel comics decided it was due time to make the worst decision possible and revealed that Steve Rogers is an agent of hydra. Worse? They're claiming he always has been. No brainwashing, cloning, alt universes, or mind control. Just awful creative decisions. Sorry, had to vent a little.
I'm sure the two Jewish guys that created him during WWII had always intended him to be a white supremacist.
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Yeah, I saw that. That's the dumbest plot twist ever.
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I agree. It's pretty much the worst idea in the history of ideas.
A co-worker theorized that Zach Snyder is behind it, to make BvS look better.
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8 episoded into season 1 of Daredevil and I'm loving this show! Keeps getting better and better. One of the best shows on right now.
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Not movie related.
So apparently Marvel comics decided it was due time to make the worst decision possible and revealed that Steve Rogers is an agent of hydra. Worse? They're claiming he always has been. No brainwashing, cloning, alt universes, or mind control. Just awful creative decisions. Sorry, had to vent a little.
I'm sure the two Jewish guys that created him during WWII had always intended him to be a white supremacist.
I don't even follow the comics outside of observing X-men's universe from a far, and this is a what the heck moment. I wonder how this will be retconned/alternate universe explained?
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Saw Deadpool last night. Didn't care for it. It definitely had some funny/fun moments. But as a whole, it just feel really flat for me. And while I had no illusions of it being like a G-rated movie, the vulgarity and objectionable content were WAY over the top. Glad I didn't waste time and money going to see this in theaters.
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Well, "way over the top" is an accurate description of what Deadpool is from the comics. It was an accurate adaptation.
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Well, "way over the top" is an accurate description of what Deadpool is from the comics. It was an accurate adaptation.
Indeed, still doesn't mean it's for everyone. Deadpool (the movie) definitely didn't try to hide what it it was. Still though, it's not a movie for everyone.
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Certainly.
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Just want to take a second to say that the MCU has not had a string of "weak" villains. IMO, they have all been pretty satisfying. To me, Ultron feel just a little flat simply because he should have been a bit more ubiquitous and invincible than he ended up being. But that is super hard to portray in a movie anyway, so I try not to let it bother me. But in any case, I'm tired of reading everywhere how bad the MCU villains other than Loki were. *yawn*
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Just want to take a second to say that the MCU has not had a string of "weak" villains. IMO, they have all been pretty satisfying. To me, Ultron feel just a little flat simply because he should have been a bit more ubiquitous and invincible than he ended up being. But that is super hard to portray in a movie anyway, so I try not to let it bother me. But in any case, I'm tired of reading everywhere how bad the MCU villains other than Loki were. *yawn*
It gets overgeneralized for sure. Mostly because, in these movies, the hero is just so much more interesting.
Villains life Jeff Bridges from Iron Man, Rourke and Rockwell from Iron Man II, Red Skull, Rob Redford, Ultron and such were fine. Not brilliant, but i liked them, even if their movies weren't quite great.
However, villains like the dark elf or whatever from Thor II or Guy Pearce from Iron Man III were just really rough. I'd say the Maliketh was the low point of villains. Guy Pearce had a ton of potential, but the ending ruined his character, dude was essentially a dragon.
I also think one problem is that the heroes are (generally) multi-layered and their motivations are made very clear. The villains, often, get no clear motivation or depth and are just "I'm a bad guy who does bad things for bad reasons". Which tends to stick out when compared to the heroes or even to previous villains established by The Joker, Magneto, Green Goblin, Dr. Octopus, General Stryker (not from Origins) and even Loki. A good villain is one you understand, one whose motivations are clear and one who has interesting facets. Many times in Marvel movies, the bad guy is simply a narrative tool to give the good guys someone to stop.
I say this all as a Marvel fanboy.
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But IMO, every single one of the MCU villains had a LOT more going on than "I'm a bad guy who does bad things for bad reasons," including the ones you singled out as not very good.
Stane (Iron Man) wanted to continue building his own private empire, and turned on Tony when Tony made it clear that Stark Enterprises could not longer be manipulated as his front. Not bad. Very "real."
Blonsky/Abomination (Hulk) was a bit power hungry and was driven insane by the serum. Again, not bad. Typical villain stuff. Probably my least favorite villain, but he was still fun to watch. And, really, the main conflict in the movie was not so much any "villain" as Banner trying to deal with himself and the government not understanding and hunting him. It wasn't really a villain-driven movie.
Vanko and Hammer (Iron Man 2): Motivated by revenge and jealousy toward Stark. I found both of these motives to be well-developed and credible. Solid villains.
Loki (Thor): Excellent villain. His motives are a bit complex, and to this day, we aren't entirely sure of what he wants because he is playing it somewhat close to the vest. But it stems from him wanting to rule Asgard, whether because he is jealous of Thor as the heir-apparent, or because he is half Frost Giant, or because his childhood was a lie, or because whatever. The Frost Giants also bear mentioning as well. Their motives simply boil down to age-old feuding with Asgard, and being put down and (in their view) oppressed. Even though it isn't explored that deeply, it doesn't need to be because (1) we can identify with that, and (2) they are really the second-tier villains behind Loki anyway, so we don't care.
Red Skull (Cap): Just a fanatic. He wanted power, for himself and for Hydra. Given the context of the movie where he was essentially a Nazi who was more extreme than the Nazis, and the context later established for Hydra in the MCU in general, this worked even though in all actuality, he was not very deep. Solid villain.
The Avengers: Back to Loki. Awesome. He plays it like he wants to rule earth. But he plays it so well that we don't even really care whether there is some deeper motive. And, of course, there is. Anyone paying close attention to the big picture knows that what he REALLY wants is to rule Asgard. And his motives make sense. And he is so cool that, again, we don't care.
Killian (Iron Man 3): Pretty cool. He wanted power because he was a creative mind that could come up with a way to grant himself that power, and Tony spurning him ended up twisting that in a very sinister way. He absolutely worked as the villain for me. And I for one loved the Mandarin plot twist. Who we thought was the Mandarin was sinister and fearsome. The fact that that specific individual ended up being a bumbling, toothless fool does not diminish that, for me. It makes the one who orchestrated it all appear sinister and fearsome, albeit in a different way. I think this was very well done. And the fact that the real Mandarin is apparently out there kind of makes me a bit giddy.
Malekith (Thor 2): Similar to the Frost Giants. But add in the fact that the Dark Elves really were all about unleashing the aether since day 1. I mean, we don't know why, but it sort of takes on an air of them sort of being an aether death cult of sorts. Kind of hard to relate to, but not completely. That was their thing. I dunno. He isn't all that deep, but I have no problem with Malekith either. I didn't really need him to be any more than he was for the movie to work for me.
Pierce, Winter Soldier, Crossbones: Hydra. Politics. Power. Works for me.
Ronin (GotG): I thought he was pretty cool. Yeah, he could have been fleshed out a bit more and made better. It kinda feels like he would have been the easiest to give a bit more development to, which makes it kind of feel like Marvel dropped the ball on him a bit. But he was still pretty fearsome, and his motives weren't really that difficult to understand: He is a fanatic and a rebel/freedom fighter/terrorist leader/whatever. Not to mention, he is prideful, and resents being Thanos' minion, so it is easy to understand why he embraces wholeheartedly the power of the orb when he has an opportunity to seize it. He absolutely worked for me. Where I do feel like Marvel actually sold a villain short in this film was Thanos. But I know Marvel is playing it a bit close to the vest with him, and there will (hopefully) be a lot more fleshing out of his character later, so I can forgive that.
Ultron (Avengers 2): He was cool. I felt he should have been more, but he was cool.
Cross/Yellowjacket (Ant Man): Pretty much Stane 2. And I'm fine with that.
Zemo (Civil War): His character development took a back seat to the main conflict in the film, which is a bit odd, since he orchestrated the entire thing. And that's fine. It worked. He actually had a pretty complex background and set of motives, and even though we were only given a glimpse of it all, there was more than enough there to make it all work.
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I dunno, I could nitpick any of these to death. But in lining them up, it's a pretty impressive slate overall if you ask me. Some are definitely more developed or more relatable than others. But the ones that feel like sort of B-grade villains are still not bad. And the ones that I feel added a lot are a pretty sizable majority. And, yes, I am a bit of a fanboy as well. But that doesn't mean I'm wrong. :biggrin:
EDIT: And I can't believe I actually took the time to do that. :lol
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I agree with a lot of that. You definitely didn't need to write about most of those since I have no issues with them haha.
However, it seems even you have a hard time defending Malekith other than saying he works for you.
I also have a huge problem with Ronin, but that may be because I'm comparing him to his comic book counterpart who actually would have had a well though out motivation for doing what he did, other than "they are enemies and they will all die", which is essentially all we got in the movie.
I mean, it's not black and white. It's not like these guys gave NO reason for anything. But for some of them, the reasons are just so flimsy that I can't consider them well written characters.
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I agree with a lot of that. You definitely didn't need to write about most of those since I have no issues with them haha.
Yeah, but I'm somewhat of a completest. :biggrin: And also, I'm a bit bored and needed something to do because nobody will address my post about The Shallows. :(
However, it seems even you have a hard time defending Malekith other than saying he works for you.
Well, he isn't the most relatable, but that doesn't mean his motives weren't believable. I could believe the character, even though I couldn't really relate. I guess that's what I'm trying to say. And I will concede that he is perhaps the least developed of all the Marvel villains (and if we want to use the term "worst" Marvel villain, okay, that's fine). But I still wouldn't say that he is a bad (in terms of quality; not morality, obviously) villain. I mean, really, is, say, Ra's al Ghul in Batman Begins that much different in terms of his motivation? Yeah, it gets fleshed out more. But it is really much more substantive at the end of the day? I'm not so sure it is.
I also have a huge problem with Ronin, but that may be because I'm comparing him to his comic book counterpart who actually would have had a well though out motivation for doing what he did, other than "they are enemies and they will all die", which is essentially all we got in the movie.
Yeah, I get that. I didn't have any prior knowledge of him from the comics, so I didn't have that hurdle to overcome.
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Ra's had more development. We got to know him as a man, we saw him train Bruce and began to feel some sense of empathy for him. Maliketh........nothing. He was just a dude that wanted to kill everyone.
Ra's also just wanted to take down a single city, he would be fine (theoretically). Maliketh wanted all of existence destroyed, which would destroy all of him and his people too, so I just didn't buy any of it. Maybe if he got some screen time and lines that were dedicated to anything other than killing everyone.
I'd also like to point out that this definitely isn't just an issue with Marvel movies. Bane was a pretty worthless villain as well, as were quite a few others. Not even to mention the atrocity that was Lex Luthor and Doomsday.
It's also not just the movies. Marvel comics villains are traditionally simply bad guys doing bad things for bad reasons. There have been a lot of notable exceptions, but it's the most common type of villain.
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Ra's had more development. We got to know him as a man, we saw him train Bruce and began to feel some sense of empathy for him.
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Ra's also just wanted to take down a single city, he would be fine (theoretically).
Nah, he was basically Sean Connery in The Highlander.
Wait...I don't think I helped my case here. Lemme re-think this one. :justjen
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If you're suggesting that all Marvel villains should be played by Sean Connery............I'll agree.
If you're suggesting that all Marvel and DC and any other comic book movie villains should be played by Sean Connery.........I will agree more than humanly possible.
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hey bosk.............saw Shallows tonite.................... let me say I don't get freaked by much. but WOW. and per your previous comments on sharks........... lol. lets say intense.
will not get a lot of praise but a solid movie. I loved it
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Malekith's plan succeeding wouldn't mean the death of his own people. He wanted to return the universe to a state of constant darkness, which is how the dark elves lived to begin with.
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I agree with the common perception that the villains aren't normally all that interesting in the Marvel films. They are just antagonists for the heroes to fight. They generally have cast fantastic actors in those roles, which helps tremendously; I think the weakness in development and motivation would come across more sharply in the hands of lesser thespians.
The obvious exception is Tom Hiddleston's Loki, who is beyond reproach.
IMO, other than Loki, the best Marvel villains BY FAR have been on TV: Vincent D'Onofrio as Wilson Fisk and David Tennant as Kilgrave.
BTW, tons of cast additions on Spider-Man: Homecoming, which has now started filming. None more exciting for me than 15 year old Abraham Attah, who IMO should have been nominated for an award for his role in Beasts of No Nation.
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Yeah, as fun as Loki is to watch, Kilgrave is my favorite villain so far.
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I'm not really seeing what is so great about the Punisher so far.
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I finally saw Deadpool. Very enjoyable but some of it was a bit much. Not in terms of profanity, gore, sexuality, etc. It just felt a bit "forced", I suppose is the word. Not all of it, some of the 4th wall breaking was great and it actually had some of my favorite action scenes out of any Marvel films (that was perhaps my favorite part of the movie actually), but the whole shtick of Deadpool was beaten over my head so much that by the end it was kind of lost on me. Which isn't to say I disliked it, but instead of being a positive, it was just there; it was just kind of this thing they did with no purpose and instead was just "we're doing this because it's what Deadpool does". If that makes sense. Anyway, I really enjoyed it, but I wasn't masturbating over it like a lot of fans. I also didn't think the babyhand joke was anything at all. Stuff like that is just too damn easy. Like if I was in middle school that would have cracked me up to bits but now the second I saw that thing I knew it was coming (and I hadn't read about all the people going nuts over it till after I saw the movie, by the bye).
Bosk, it's not so much that he's "that great", it's that he's given some sort of semblance of personality to a character that before this was all but a cardboard cutout and symbol of nothing but "angry badass kills people because EMOTIONS >:( ". No, he's not going to get any awards for his performance and it wasn't riveting, but it's something. At least I saw something. If they expand upon the little diversity we saw in his character throughout the entirety of DDS2, I can see the character being something special (which...if you're just starting or haven't finished it, he does start out as just another iteration that's nothing more than a husk of killing intent, it takes a while to see anything else...probably halfway through S2 or more). But no, if you're expecting some kind of amazing performance, you're going to be disappointed. It's fuckin' John Bernthal. The dude has less range in acting than the dramatic gofer....or whatever the hell that animal is in the gif. But he did well considering The Punisher in the past was even less well acted and with even less range.
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I only just finished ep. 2, so I will take your word for it that it gets better.
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I only just finished ep. 2, so I will take your word for it that it gets better.
Oh yes. He does. That's still really early.
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I finally saw Deadpool. Very enjoyable but some of it was a bit much. Not in terms of profanity, gore, sexuality, etc. It just felt a bit "forced", I suppose is the word. Not all of it, some of the 4th wall breaking was great and it actually had some of my favorite action scenes out of any Marvel films (that was perhaps my favorite part of the movie actually), but the whole shtick of Deadpool was beaten over my head so much that by the end it was kind of lost on me. Which isn't to say I disliked it, but instead of being a positive, it was just there; it was just kind of this thing they did with no purpose and instead was just "we're doing this because it's what Deadpool does". If that makes sense. Anyway, I really enjoyed it, but I wasn't masturbating over it like a lot of fans. I also didn't think the babyhand joke was anything at all. Stuff like that is just too damn easy. Like if I was in middle school that would have cracked me up to bits but now the second I saw that thing I knew it was coming (and I hadn't read about all the people going nuts over it till after I saw the movie, by the bye).
Heh, I think compared to what goes in your head, Deadpool was a G rated Disney movie from 1940.
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:police: :-*
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I only just finished ep. 2, so I will take your word for it that it gets better.
Oh yes. He does. That's still really early.
Much better.
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I'm going to have to go back and watch ep. 3 again. I tried watching it the other night and kept falling asleep. That isn't a knock on the episode at all. I was just exhausted. There was definitely a lot of cool stuff going on, but I just couldn't get the flow of the entire thing. Have to revisit it.
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Anyone see the trailer for Luke Cage and the teaser for Iron Fist and the even smaller teaser for Defenders?
Look pretty cool if I must say. I think they might really nail the tone in Luke Cage.
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Yep, and Daredevil season 3 confirmed as well. So we' ll have Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Jessica Jones, Daredevil and the Defenders in 2017. Pretty cool.
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Yep, and Daredevil season 3 confirmed as well. So we' ll have Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Jessica Jones, Daredevil and the Defenders in 2017. Pretty cool.
Well, we'll have Luke Cage this year. Netflix said they'll stick to two shows a year, so I dunno which ones we'll get next year. I assume Iron Fist and Defenders. Might have to wait till 2018 for DD3 and JJ2.
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BREAKING
Guardians of the Galaxy - MISSION: BREAKOUT will replace The Twilight Zone - The Tower of Terror attraction at Disney California Adventure park.
https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2016/07/guardians-of-the-galaxy-mission-breakout-coming-to-disney-california-adventure-park-summer-2017/
Today at San Diego Comic-Con, Kevin Feige, President of Marvel Studios, announced to a packed house of fans that the Guardians of the Galaxy are coming to Disney California Adventure park!
Beginning in summer 2017, the outrageous and irreverent gang will appear in Guardians of the Galaxy – Mission: BREAKOUT! – a comically high-energy, rocking new adventure. Guests will be right in the mix with characters from the blockbuster “Guardians of the Galaxy” films.
Deep inside his fortress-like collection, the mysterious Taneleer Tivan (aka The Collector) is displaying his newest acquisitions, the Guardians of the Galaxy. They are trapped in customized display cases, suspended over a vast abyss. Unbeknownst to their unscrupulous captor, the intrepid Rocket has escaped and is enlisting the Collector’s VIP guests for help. Guests board a gantry lift, which launches them into a chaotic and hilarious adventure as they join Rocket in an attempt to break his fellow Guardians out of captivity.
The new attraction will anchor a broader universe of Super Heroes that will grow over time at Disney California Adventure park. This exciting new presence will transform the structure currently housing The Twilight Zone Tower of Terror™ (scheduled to close in early 2017) into an epic new adventure, enhancing the breathtaking free fall sensation with all-new visual and audio effects to create a variety of ride experiences. Guests will experience multiple random, unique ride profiles in which the rise and fall of the gantry lift will rock to the beat of music inspired by the film’s popular soundtrack.
Guardians of the Galaxy – Mission: BREAKOUT! opens summer 2017 at Disney California Adventure park. Stay tuned to the Disney Parks Blog as we’ll bring you more details as the attraction develops as well as opportunities to celebrate The Twilight Zone Tower of Terror™ before it closes in early 2017.
Click the link to watch the video of legendary Disney Imagineer Joe Rhode talk about the new ride coming next summer with concept art.
As a big Disney parks fan, I'm not sure how I feel about this. The Tower of Terror is one of the best themes attractions is the park....the ride system in Disney California Adventure is slightly different than the original one in Disney's Hollywood Studios. Don't worry about this going to the one in Florida...it's UNIVERSALly impossible at the moment to put anything Marvel in those parks no thanks to the already established Marvel attractions at Universal Studios Orlando
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Brie Larson confirmed for Cap. Marvel.
New trailer for Dr. Strange. A little over the top for me, but cool.
Kurt Russell is playing a planet....
Plus lots of new logos and other stuff I'm probably forgetting.
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Doctor Strange looks GREAT.
I'm a big fan of Benedict so i'll go see that for sure.
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Doctor Strange looks GREAT.
I'm a big fan of Benedict so i'll go see that for sure.
Just watched it again, and you're right. It looks great. Hoping the story is as creative and good as some of those visuals.
I remember when I first heard of Cumberbatch playing Strange and not digging the idea at all. Well, now I'm totally sold.
However, part of me will always think of 80's era Tom Skerritt as Dr. Strange.
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Yeah that was one kick ass trailer. Perfect amount of reveals too without being skimping or showing too much. Marvel has really nailed down the perfect trailer format. Excited to see Mads as well.
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Yeah that was one kick ass trailer. Perfect amount of reveals too without being skimping or showing too much. Marvel has really nailed down the perfect trailer format. Excited to see Mads as well.
But Marvel also has a "SHOW THEM THE WHOLE MOVIE IN 600 TRAILERS AND TV SPOTS" problem.
I swear I saw like 60% of Avengers 2 before it was released. It's why I now only watch 2-3 trailers tops, and no tv spots.
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See, I wouldn't know that because I do the same. :lol
I watch one trailer of theirs, it's perfect, and then see the movie.
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BREAKING
Guardians of the Galaxy - MISSION: BREAKOUT will replace The Twilight Zone - The Tower of Terror attraction at Disney California Adventure park.
https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2016/07/guardians-of-the-galaxy-mission-breakout-coming-to-disney-california-adventure-park-summer-2017/
Today at San Diego Comic-Con, Kevin Feige, President of Marvel Studios, announced to a packed house of fans that the Guardians of the Galaxy are coming to Disney California Adventure park!
Beginning in summer 2017, the outrageous and irreverent gang will appear in Guardians of the Galaxy – Mission: BREAKOUT! – a comically high-energy, rocking new adventure. Guests will be right in the mix with characters from the blockbuster “Guardians of the Galaxy” films.
Deep inside his fortress-like collection, the mysterious Taneleer Tivan (aka The Collector) is displaying his newest acquisitions, the Guardians of the Galaxy. They are trapped in customized display cases, suspended over a vast abyss. Unbeknownst to their unscrupulous captor, the intrepid Rocket has escaped and is enlisting the Collector’s VIP guests for help. Guests board a gantry lift, which launches them into a chaotic and hilarious adventure as they join Rocket in an attempt to break his fellow Guardians out of captivity.
The new attraction will anchor a broader universe of Super Heroes that will grow over time at Disney California Adventure park. This exciting new presence will transform the structure currently housing The Twilight Zone Tower of Terror™ (scheduled to close in early 2017) into an epic new adventure, enhancing the breathtaking free fall sensation with all-new visual and audio effects to create a variety of ride experiences. Guests will experience multiple random, unique ride profiles in which the rise and fall of the gantry lift will rock to the beat of music inspired by the film’s popular soundtrack.
Guardians of the Galaxy – Mission: BREAKOUT! opens summer 2017 at Disney California Adventure park. Stay tuned to the Disney Parks Blog as we’ll bring you more details as the attraction develops as well as opportunities to celebrate The Twilight Zone Tower of Terror™ before it closes in early 2017.
Click the link to watch the video of legendary Disney Imagineer Joe Rhode talk about the new ride coming next summer with concept art.
As a big Disney parks fan, I'm not sure how I feel about this. The Tower of Terror is one of the best themes attractions is the park....the ride system in Disney California Adventure is slightly different than the original one in Disney's Hollywood Studios. Don't worry about this going to the one in Florida...it's UNIVERSALly impossible at the moment to put anything Marvel in those parks no thanks to the already established Marvel attractions at Universal Studios Orlando
Mixed feelings, similar to yours. Tower of Terror isn't my favorite ride by any stretch, and I can easily skip it when at California Adventure, but it still has its own place now in Disney park lore, so I am sorry to see it go. But at the same time, given that the ride system will still be in place and only re-themed for a Marvel storyline/theme rather than a Twilight Zone storyline/theme, I guess I don't have major issues with it, and it makes sense from the overall Disney brand perspective.
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Netflix new Luke Cage trailer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytkjQvSk2VA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytkjQvSk2VA)
I'm very pleased by the different tone. It doesn't appear to be a rehash of Daredevil or Jessica Jones.
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Really looking forward to that.
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Looks really awesome! I'm sure there will still be plenty of intensity and emotional impact, but it looks just that more upbeat in tone that will bring a new dimension to the Defenders shows.
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The full Dr. Strange trailer looks cool. I still can't decide whether I can say I will like it. But I guess we will say. I never got into the character at all during my comics reading days, so there isn't much hook from that standpoint. But so far, the MCU has not missed on a single film, so my hopes are high. At the very least, I figure it'll be a valuable tie-in to the other goings on in the larger story so far, so I know I will see it and get something out of it either way.
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So apparently Marvel and Hulu are going to do a show together now.
I'm pretty torn. It's The Runaways, which if done well, would be really cool. But that's another subscription to watch it. It's also an assurance that it will be totally cut off from anything else Marvel. Unless it is meant to be completely unrelated to the MCU.
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I don't know anything about the Runaways, it was apparently a comic that first appeared after my time of reading/collecting had ended.
But I already have Hulu, so I guess I will watch it.
Weird that it would be on Hulu, though. I would think their partners at Netflix wouldn't care for that too much.
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This is becoming a media war. Marvel is business savvy but fans will not pay for every series. I've already missed out and won't pay foe Netflix.
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I don't know anything about the Runaways, it was apparently a comic that first appeared after my time of reading/collecting had ended.
But I already have Hulu, so I guess I will watch it.
Weird that it would be on Hulu, though. I would think their partners at Netflix wouldn't care for that too much.
Yea that was my thought as well, which is why it might not be MCU related.
They better not screw themselves out of their Netflix deal, that's been amazing for them.
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So, I guess that Agents of SHIELD comes back next week, with a version of Ghost Rider.
Thoughts?
I will watch it, but I am definitely looking more forward to Luke Cage on September 30th.
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I don't know what a Luke Cage is, but I am definitely looking forward to AOS because, thus far, it has always delivered.
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Luke Cage is the next Marvel Netflix show. The character debuted in the Jessica Jones show.
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Didn't realize they were still doing Netflix shows. So I guess it's fair to assume that this just further delves into the seedy side of the Marvel Universe? Not sure why they feel the need to go down that road, but whatever. I guess there must be an audience for it, somewhere.
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Their Netflix shows are hugely popular, so yeah, I'd say there's an audience for it. :lol
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Excited for both Luke Cage and AoS.
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Didn't realize they were still doing Netflix shows. So I guess it's fair to assume that this just further delves into the seedy side of the Marvel Universe? Not sure why they feel the need to go down that road, but whatever. I guess there must be an audience for it, somewhere.
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There's a HUGE audience for it.
And going down that road again? Daredevil and Jessica Jones were very different shows. They were as different from each other as Iron Man was from Captain America, and Luke Cage looks like it will be more different still, regardless of the fact that the characters are connected in various ways.
The three characters (along with Iron Fist, whose show will debut in 2017) will unite in a team-up series, The Defenders, also to air in 2017.