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Title: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: Volk9 on July 17, 2011, 08:23:12 PM
I didnt see a thread on the show here, so I figured it deserved one. Anyways, I spent the last 2 weeks watching the first three seasons, and I'm watching the 4th season premiere right now :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on July 17, 2011, 10:05:22 PM
I made one a few weeks ago, but I don't care. That badass scene with Gus in Season 4 :hefdaddy
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Post by: axeman90210 on July 17, 2011, 10:26:02 PM
I just finished season 1 the other night (awesome). I'll be recording season 4 and hopefully catching up by the end of the season.
Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: Volk9 on July 17, 2011, 10:29:12 PM
I made one a few weeks ago, but I don't care. That badass scene with Gus in Season 4 :hefdaddy

Seriously. First episode into the season and they've already managed to create on of the best scenes of the show.
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Post by: zxlkho on July 23, 2011, 12:18:01 AM
I'm just bumping this thread to say this show is fucking amazing.
Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: Volk9 on July 23, 2011, 09:38:38 AM
Rina is now catching up and she's almost finished with Season 3..in a week, haha.
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Post by: Big Crouton on July 23, 2011, 04:44:19 PM
Great show.  The scene with gus was chilling.

I've been watching the show from the start again with some friends who haven't seen it yet, and I'd forgotten how intense this show is.  It's stressful to watch because it's so well done.
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Post by: zxlkho on July 24, 2011, 08:32:29 PM
Justin, that's nothing dude. I watched the first two seasons IN TWO DAYS.
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Post by: axeman90210 on July 24, 2011, 09:10:24 PM
I'm about 2/3 done with season 2 (going to watch episode 10 in a little bit) and this show is the tits.
Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on July 24, 2011, 11:01:35 PM
Go home, Walter.
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Post by: Bombardana on August 01, 2011, 06:18:39 AM
I love that Go-karting scene in the new episode
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Post by: Quadrochosis on August 01, 2011, 06:49:05 AM
This season needs to pick up soon. The past two episodes have been pretty stagnant.
Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: axeman90210 on August 01, 2011, 08:56:40 AM
8 episodes into season 3, holy hell was there some good TV the last couple episodes :metal
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Post by: ZBomber on August 01, 2011, 11:05:52 AM
This season needs to pick up soon. The past two episodes have been pretty stagnant.

They're definitely building up to something. But what, I do not know!
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on August 03, 2011, 10:36:02 PM
This season needs to pick up soon. The past two episodes have been pretty stagnant.

They're definitely building up to something. But what, I do not know!

It's Breaking Bad, so the suspense is worth it.
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on August 15, 2011, 08:19:20 PM
My brother told me this show is getting renewed for a 5th and final season. It's supposed to have 16 episodes!
Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on October 09, 2011, 09:23:00 PM
Did anyone watch the finale? Holy shit!
Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: zxlkho on October 09, 2011, 09:23:47 PM
I watched the south park thing instead because I don't get AMC here. I'll watch it online tomorrow probably. DONT TELL ME ANYTHING
Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on October 09, 2011, 09:24:39 PM
I watched the south park thing instead because I don't get AMC here. I'll watch it online tomorrow probably. DONT TELL ME ANYTHING

Okay, well for your safety, I would stay away from this thread!  :lol
Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: Mebert78 on October 09, 2011, 09:38:43 PM
Wow, great finale.  Gus' face was fucked up!  Damn, lol.  They didn't really leave any loose ends, except for the plant thing in the final shot.  Also, Mike is out there somewhere.  I wonder what direction they'll take things next season.
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Post by: axeman90210 on October 09, 2011, 09:41:52 PM
The shot of Gus, an the reveal at the very end, were fucking awesome :hat So bummed hat we have to wait a long time for new Breaking Bad, and that there are only 16 hours of the show left
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on October 09, 2011, 09:52:10 PM
Yep. I am going to miss Gus, he was my favorite. The way he went out was so awesome. Adjusting his tie after half of his face is gone. Champ.

I honestly don't know what to expect next season. Maybe it will be more with Hank and Walt.
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Post by: zxlkho on October 10, 2011, 10:55:50 AM
Just finished watching the finale. Holy fucktits that was awesome.
Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: ZBomber on October 10, 2011, 11:08:13 AM
Incredible episode. That was the most bad ass death scene EVER
Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: zxlkho on October 10, 2011, 11:09:47 AM
That wasn't even the best part. That was when Walt was on the phone with Skyler and he said, "I won."
Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: ZBomber on October 10, 2011, 11:18:07 AM
What do people think about the lily of the valley thing? Personally, I don't think Walt actually did it and it was just kind of thrown in there to raise the suspense.

Also, where do we think season 5 is going? Most likely scenario I can think of is it will deal with Walt's family finding out... I also think either Walt or Jesse will die somehow (maybe Mike?). The finale didn't really give us much insight into what will happen next, which is pretty awesome if you ask me.
Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: zxlkho on October 10, 2011, 11:21:50 AM
I think Mike is going to be pretty pissed at Walt and they'll have to deal with that situation. Also it's likely that the family will find out and Walt will have to explain to Hank (not to the DEA though)
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Post by: orcus116 on October 10, 2011, 01:20:53 PM
What do people think about the lily of the valley thing? Personally, I don't think Walt actually did it and it was just kind of thrown in there to raise the suspense.

I'm in the same boat. I think the whole spinning gun/plant ended up being the same one the kid was poisoned with was more symbolic than reality because how the hell could Walt have poisoned the kid?
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Post by: ZBomber on October 10, 2011, 01:45:13 PM
What do people think about the lily of the valley thing? Personally, I don't think Walt actually did it and it was just kind of thrown in there to raise the suspense.

I'm in the same boat. I think the whole spinning gun/plant ended up being the same one the kid was poisoned with was more symbolic than reality because how the hell could Walt have poisoned the kid?

Oh wow, I completely forgot about the spinning gun thing!

But yeah, I just can't see Walt doing that. The other thing is WHEN would he have given it to Brock? He was over Jesse;s house, but never got in... and he was immediately knocked out after that.
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Post by: Zoom E on October 10, 2011, 04:08:33 PM
What do people think about the lily of the valley thing? Personally, I don't think Walt actually did it and it was just kind of thrown in there to raise the suspense.

I'm in the same boat. I think the whole spinning gun/plant ended up being the same one the kid was poisoned with was more symbolic than reality because how the hell could Walt have poisoned the kid?

Oh wow, I completely forgot about the spinning gun thing!

But yeah, I just can't see Walt doing that. The other thing is WHEN would he have given it to Brock? He was over Jesse;s house, but never got in... and he was immediately knocked out after that.

I think Walt did poison the kid, though I have no idea when he would have had the opportunity. I can't see why they would throw in the shot of the lily of the valley plant as some sort of red herring. Walt's reaction when Jesse told him the kid would survive was one of immense relief, which points to his involvement. His character has become increasing less scrupulous as the series has progressed, and I don't think Walt would be beyond doing something like that at all. 
Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: ZBomber on October 10, 2011, 05:29:38 PM
What do people think about the lily of the valley thing? Personally, I don't think Walt actually did it and it was just kind of thrown in there to raise the suspense.

I'm in the same boat. I think the whole spinning gun/plant ended up being the same one the kid was poisoned with was more symbolic than reality because how the hell could Walt have poisoned the kid?

Oh wow, I completely forgot about the spinning gun thing!

But yeah, I just can't see Walt doing that. The other thing is WHEN would he have given it to Brock? He was over Jesse;s house, but never got in... and he was immediately knocked out after that.

I think Walt did poison the kid, though I have no idea when he would have had the opportunity. I can't see why they would throw in the shot of the lily of the valley plant as some sort of red herring. Walt's reaction when Jesse told him the kid would survive was one of immense relief, which points to his involvement. His character has become increasing less scrupulous as the series has progressed, and I don't think Walt would be beyond doing something like that at all.

It's very possible, and I think a lot of next season will be dealing with Walt's "descent", but I'm still not convinced it was him.

Actually, now that I think about it... he did have his neighbor go into his house when he was well aware there might be assassins in there, so you never know. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.
Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: zxlkho on October 10, 2011, 06:03:04 PM
http://www.aoltv.com/2011/10/09/breaking-bad-vince-gilligan-season-4-finale-walt-gus-jesse/

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Just to nail down something from the finale, did Walt in fact poison Brock? Is that something you want to confirm or leave as an open question?
I like not nailing things down completely. I like letting the audience ask those questions. But ... yeah, I mean, as far as I'm concerned, he did poison Brock. I think he did it for very pragmatic reasons of self-preservation, not just to protect himself but his family. But it was a very awful, cold-blooded act, and it obviously sends Walt many, many more steps closer to hell, to losing his soul, as it were.

But I think there was I think a method to the madness. It wasn't actually ricin that he poisoned the child with; it turned out to be this alkaloid, lily of the valley, which can be fatal but in this case was not. I think the intention on Walt's part was to get Jesse talking to him again. I think he took a very bold and very desperate risk in poisoning the child and in making sure that Jesse's ricin-laced cigarette was lifted off of him [by Saul's employee Huell, according to a Gilligan interview with Alan Sepinwall] so that Jesse would come to him seeking vengeance.

At that point, the worst that could happen to Walt would be that Jesse would shoot him, which was a very real possibility in Episode 4.12. It was a very real possibility Walt would be killed by his partner, but he was a dead man anyway at that point. He was sure to be killed by Gus or his henchmen, so it might as well be Jesse pulling the trigger. But the best-case scenario was exactly what happened, which is that he was able to say to Jesse, "Why in God's name would I do this? Jesse, why would I poison a child?" And, of course, that's the very reason right there to get Jesse talking to him, to get Jesse believing that it indeed was not Walt but rather it was Gus, and to get the two of them together again. Because Walt truly had no help and no hope without having Jesse back on his team again, and that's, of course, what would lead to their ultimate victory over Gus.
Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: ZBomber on October 10, 2011, 06:22:30 PM
http://www.aoltv.com/2011/10/09/breaking-bad-vince-gilligan-season-4-finale-walt-gus-jesse/

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Just to nail down something from the finale, did Walt in fact poison Brock? Is that something you want to confirm or leave as an open question?
I like not nailing things down completely. I like letting the audience ask those questions. But ... yeah, I mean, as far as I'm concerned, he did poison Brock. I think he did it for very pragmatic reasons of self-preservation, not just to protect himself but his family. But it was a very awful, cold-blooded act, and it obviously sends Walt many, many more steps closer to hell, to losing his soul, as it were.

But I think there was I think a method to the madness. It wasn't actually ricin that he poisoned the child with; it turned out to be this alkaloid, lily of the valley, which can be fatal but in this case was not. I think the intention on Walt's part was to get Jesse talking to him again. I think he took a very bold and very desperate risk in poisoning the child and in making sure that Jesse's ricin-laced cigarette was lifted off of him [by Saul's employee Huell, according to a Gilligan interview with Alan Sepinwall] so that Jesse would come to him seeking vengeance.

At that point, the worst that could happen to Walt would be that Jesse would shoot him, which was a very real possibility in Episode 4.12. It was a very real possibility Walt would be killed by his partner, but he was a dead man anyway at that point. He was sure to be killed by Gus or his henchmen, so it might as well be Jesse pulling the trigger. But the best-case scenario was exactly what happened, which is that he was able to say to Jesse, "Why in God's name would I do this? Jesse, why would I poison a child?" And, of course, that's the very reason right there to get Jesse talking to him, to get Jesse believing that it indeed was not Walt but rather it was Gus, and to get the two of them together again. Because Walt truly had no help and no hope without having Jesse back on his team again, and that's, of course, what would lead to their ultimate victory over Gus.

did you get that from zack? Because i just sent that to him like an hour ago.  :lol
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Post by: zxlkho on October 10, 2011, 06:26:15 PM
Yeah I did. :lol
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on October 10, 2011, 07:39:45 PM
I think it was Walt. We'll just have to see how it plays out. I'm so excited for the next season. I can't wait! Gus will be missed.

http://youtu.be/ZOmp3HpAGgM
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Post by: Firetruck on October 14, 2011, 09:13:32 AM
I love the fact that episode 4.13 is called "Face Off".  :lol

Warning: Spoiler Alert (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6CjCEyAJ2s)
Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on October 14, 2011, 09:14:00 AM
Me too. This show is so clever.
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Post by: Volk9 on October 14, 2011, 03:26:03 PM
Me too. This show is so clever.

How clever is it? This clever; this is a picture of something that was in Gales apartment in episode 1 of season four (spoilers)

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg859/scaled.php?tn=0&server=859&filename=6xybm.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640

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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on October 14, 2011, 03:38:50 PM
What the hell? Holy HOLY HOLY!!!
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Post by: rogerdil on October 26, 2011, 09:42:09 AM
If ending shot of Season 4 wasn't evidence enough, the gun-spinning on the patio table scene in Episode 12 should do the trick (to convince one it was Walt).

On a side note, "plate glass" bitch (Saul's secretary) and ABQ cops were hilariously dickish/cuntish.

Hank: (The reason I got an anonymous death threat) was someone didn't like the way I was spending my free time.

Walt Jr.: What, minerals?

 :rollin
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Post by: Scard on November 05, 2011, 12:25:03 AM
Not reading through this thread because I only just finished the first season. Great show so far!
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Post by: Bombardana on November 05, 2011, 07:22:52 PM
Me too. This show is so clever.

How clever is it? This clever; this is a picture of something that was in Gales apartment in episode 1 of season four (spoilers)

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg859/scaled.php?tn=0&server=859&filename=6xybm.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640

How about the pink bear from the swimming pool too?
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Post by: Kosmo on November 27, 2011, 03:36:41 PM
I just started to watch it this week, I'm on the last episode of season one. The start was okay but now it's turning out to be amazing.
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Post by: cramx3 on November 27, 2011, 10:42:21 PM
The first season starts slow, but the show builds up big time, every season gets better.  The next season is the last I believe which may be good that they can end the story properly.
Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: Kosmo on December 17, 2011, 04:55:11 PM
Near the end of season 4 and shit is getting intense, such a fantastic series.
Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: Volk9 on December 17, 2011, 05:04:52 PM
It just keeps getting better and better :metal
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Post by: GuineaPig on December 17, 2011, 06:07:16 PM
Don't look up the show anywhere on the internet.  You don't want to spoil yourself.
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Post by: Kosmo on December 18, 2011, 10:15:40 AM
Just finished season 4, great season and great season ending.

I'm guessing that Mike will go after Walt and Jesse in season 5.
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Post by: GuineaPig on December 18, 2011, 10:36:49 AM
Nah.  Mike's a pro.
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Post by: Riceball on March 02, 2012, 11:23:59 PM
Mind = blown.

Guess which season I just finished watching.
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Post by: ZBomber on March 03, 2012, 12:10:54 AM
4?

Also they announced today season 5 is going to definitely be split into two seasons.  :tdwn
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Post by: MykeHavoc on March 03, 2012, 12:20:18 AM
Season 4 is possibly the best season of any TV show I've ever watched. I was surprised how sucked in I got. Bit of a slow start like any show, but I blew through the whole run in about a week. Made me want to stand up and cheer. I'm interested to see where they take it and where it ends, as strangely the season 4 finale would've been a great way for the show to conclude.
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Post by: Riceball on March 03, 2012, 01:39:47 AM
Yup, 4.

*spoiler*

I probably got as emotional (not sad, believe me) when Gus first came out of Salamanca's room following the blast. I was like noooooooooooooo...yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Fuck that psycopath.

So there's going to be season five? My pick: the German company which ( I believe) owned Gus' operation sucks Walt/Jesse in. At the same time, the DEA starts to investigate them. Although, tbh, they could leave the story here and I would be more than satisfied. I'd hate for it to stop its exponential rise by the season because they have to start making less believeable story lines. That is one of the key strengths of the show imo, its 100% believable (although Ted's death was a tad convinient & pretty contrived relative to the rest of the show).


Fuck I love it.
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Post by: GuineaPig on March 03, 2012, 05:34:38 PM
I guess the producers want Cranston to win 6 Emmys.  Go for the all-time lead.
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Post by: cramx3 on March 03, 2012, 06:55:07 PM
since you say the final season will be split in two, does that mean the two parts will air in different years or will they take just a short break before the two parts? That is such a tease to do two halves to a season knowingly.  I guess that means part one will end in a big cliff hanger.
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Post by: GuineaPig on March 03, 2012, 07:46:22 PM
since you say the final season will be split in two, does that mean the two parts will air in different years or will they take just a short break before the two parts? That is such a tease to do two halves to a season knowingly.  I guess that means part one will end in a big cliff hanger.

Different years.  It'll probably be July 2012/February 2013.  Just my speculation.
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on July 15, 2012, 09:08:17 PM
Awesome episode! :tup
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Post by: Algo Fonix on July 15, 2012, 09:11:15 PM
Magnets, bitch!

God, what a season premier!
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Post by: orcus116 on July 15, 2012, 09:12:44 PM
A little quirky but not bad.
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Post by: MykeHavoc on July 15, 2012, 11:53:07 PM
Great start!
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Post by: axeman90210 on July 16, 2012, 06:40:45 AM
Magnets, bitch!

God, what a season premier!

Magnets, bitch! indeed :lol :tup
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on July 16, 2012, 08:26:43 AM
Fuckin New Hampshire :omg:
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Post by: Tripp on July 16, 2012, 09:11:04 AM
Can't wait to see what happens with the guy from New Hampshire, surely it will be something that surprises us all.

Also, the magnet thing felt like it was a combination of something from Numb3s and Fringe, it felt just kind of... far fetched, I guess. Was a great season premier, nonetheless. Excited to see what the final season (both parts) brings us.
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Post by: Dimitrius on July 16, 2012, 09:53:46 AM
I don't know, I didn't find it farfetched. When they were talking about destroying the laptop, the first thing that came to my mind was "use a magnet!".

Good start to the season! Can't wait to find out how we get from Tony Montana/Michael Corleone Walt, to that Walt from the teaser.
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Post by: Algo Fonix on July 16, 2012, 10:04:43 AM
My first thought was actually an EMP, but I'm definitely glad they went with magnets.
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Post by: rogerdil on July 16, 2012, 10:07:47 AM
I could see people thinking it was far-fetched, because it is.  But in the case of this show, the realism of the characters and the artifice of the plot make for a great combination.

Also, thought that man from New Hampshire was Walt himself, perhaps a foreshadowing clip from an episode near the end of the series?
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Post by: Dimitrius on July 16, 2012, 10:25:32 AM
Yeah, that was Walt. He even met with Jim Beaver again, who provided him the filed-off gun at the beginning of last season.
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on July 16, 2012, 10:41:39 AM
Idgit!
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Post by: wolfandwolfandwolf on July 16, 2012, 12:09:59 PM
First, Magnets.

Second, Walt is horrible.  Without Gus breathing down his neck, he is all swagger and arrogance.  I can't wait to see how this will turn out.
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Post by: axeman90210 on July 16, 2012, 06:38:20 PM
Posted this in the TV thread, but I'll share it here too http://bit.ly/MwGX6H (spoilers if you haven't watched through all of season 4).
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Post by: MetropolisWatches on July 16, 2012, 06:41:39 PM
My first thought was actually an EMP, but I'm definitely glad they went with magnets.

You're not alone- that was my first instinct as well.
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Post by: cramx3 on July 17, 2012, 11:13:54 AM
Walts "winning" is definitely getting to his head. The two remarks he made at the end of the episode were very cocky. I wonder if he is going to turn into a disliked character.
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Post by: Dimitrius on July 17, 2012, 11:30:58 AM
Not like he isn't toxic right now...
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Post by: vtgrad on July 17, 2012, 01:05:44 PM
I'd like to see Mythbusters give the magnet a try...

Personally, I don't see it as being two outlandish... I'm assuming that a concrete wall that is 5-6 feet thick (isn't that what Mike said?) would have some sort of steel reinforcing structure (I-beams, steel cable, etc); taking that with the fact that Walt asked for double the number of batteries (just to be sure) maybe the outcome is possible.

Again, I'd like to see the Mythbusters try it.
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Post by: senecadawg2 on July 22, 2012, 09:06:57 PM
Mikes the man!!!

Walter has developed so much as a character since the beginning.
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Post by: Dimitrius on July 23, 2012, 11:43:52 AM
I love Mike!

But seriously, why wouldn't Walter flush down the ricin? It's gonna come back to play on the season most like, but it's the first un-Walt thing he's done, IMO. He can synthesize the poison obviously and it seems like it's not much trouble for him to get his hands on the plant, so why would he leave that lying around?
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Post by: ZBomber on July 23, 2012, 11:58:08 AM
I love Mike!

But seriously, why wouldn't Walter flush down the ricin? It's gonna come back to play on the season most like, but it's the first un-Walt thing he's done, IMO. He can synthesize the poison obviously and it seems like it's not much trouble for him to get his hands on the plant, so why would he leave that lying around?

I... thought he did? Didn't he originally hide it and then when Jesse's robot found it, he flushed it in the toilet?
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Post by: Dimitrius on July 23, 2012, 12:03:01 PM
I love Mike!

But seriously, why wouldn't Walter flush down the ricin? It's gonna come back to play on the season most like, but it's the first un-Walt thing he's done, IMO. He can synthesize the poison obviously and it seems like it's not much trouble for him to get his hands on the plant, so why would he leave that lying around?

I... thought he did? Didn't he originally hide it and then when Jesse's robot found it, he flushed it in the toilet?
As I understood that scene, he switch the real one with salt and hid the ricin in a electric socket in his (Walt's) house then hid the salt one it in the Roomba. Because why would he go through all that trouble if he was gonna get rid of it anyway? Maybe you're right, though.
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on July 23, 2012, 12:08:57 PM
It'll play itself out in the end.

What I wanna know is, why in the fuck did Walt have an M-60 (Is that right?) in the first episode?
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Post by: ZBomber on July 23, 2012, 12:11:46 PM
I love Mike!

But seriously, why wouldn't Walter flush down the ricin? It's gonna come back to play on the season most like, but it's the first un-Walt thing he's done, IMO. He can synthesize the poison obviously and it seems like it's not much trouble for him to get his hands on the plant, so why would he leave that lying around?

I... thought he did? Didn't he originally hide it and then when Jesse's robot found it, he flushed it in the toilet?
As I understood that scene, he switch the real one with salt and hid the ricin in a electric socket in his (Walt's) house then hid the salt one it in the Roomba. Because why would he go through all that trouble if he was gonna get rid of it anyway? Maybe you're right, though.

You're right, I just looked up the synopsis on wikipedia.
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Post by: MykeHavoc on July 23, 2012, 01:50:20 PM
Another great episode. Seems the show can do no wrong.
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Post by: Dimitrius on July 23, 2012, 09:41:39 PM
It'll play itself out in the end.
Obviously, they wouldn't have shown him hiding it if it wasn't going to be a plot device for later on. But it's the first time where I've thought "that's not something Walt would do...".
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Post by: TioJorge on July 24, 2012, 01:10:58 AM
This show is so unbelievably perfect and a goddamn roller coaster of orgasmic proportions. I love it. Madrigal was awesome; every second in the so-called interrogation (HA) scene is hilariously awesome and awkwardly scary, those piglets better watch their asses.

P.S. Walt is so going to explode and die. Leave nothing for his family. He's just...gone. Done.
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Post by: cramx3 on July 24, 2012, 07:21:32 AM
Yea you really got to wonder what the end game is. We see Walt in the first episode buying that gun and we see him keepthe poison as well as show an attitude that he can't be stopped. That last scene when he got into bed with skylar was creepy too. Also when the lawyer said to quit after winning the lottery may be symbolic to what's to come.
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Post by: senecadawg2 on July 24, 2012, 08:10:13 AM
The 2 most likely end game options, IMO.

1. Breaking Bad is a tragedy. Like in Scarface, Macbeth, etc., we have seen the primary protagonist's ascension into power/control/wealth. Walt is now becoming incredibly ambitious, and perhaps more dangerous, cocky. Probably somewhere close to the middle of the 5th and final chapter, we will see Walter White peak, assuming the role of drug kingpin. He will then crack, and spiral to his demise until the end of the show, eventually dying or being arrested. More likely, his cancer will come back, and kill him. There was one particular scene that was thrown into the 4th season in which he was at the doctor's getting tests done to see if he was still in remission. Later in the same episode, over dinner, Walt Jr. asked what the results were. After a slight hesitation, Walt said he was still in remission. Maybe I'm reading too far into that, but it seemed as if he was withholding some information. Either way, I would not be surprised if the cancer came back and killed Walt just before the end of the show.

2. Jesse somehow dies, and Walt realizes the severity of the circumstances, and retires to live happily ever after.

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Post by: GuineaPig on July 24, 2012, 08:11:13 AM
2. is never going to happen.  Walt is going to die and I'm going to enjoy it.
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Post by: senecadawg2 on July 24, 2012, 08:20:54 AM
2. is never going to happen.

I sure hope so.
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Post by: senecadawg2 on August 06, 2012, 01:34:21 PM
Just watched the most recent episode... Skylar is such a bitch!  >:(
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Post by: axeman90210 on August 06, 2012, 03:09:05 PM
Anyone think the ricin hidden in the outlet could find its way into one of Skylar's cigarettes? She was smoking up a storm towards the end of last night's episode.
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Post by: TioJorge on August 06, 2012, 03:15:17 PM
That's what I'm thinking. Walt is gone. Way gone. That poor bitch; I hate her so much but the actor is doing a fantastic job of showing how a strong-willed woman breaks down in the face of severe violence and stone-cold threats backed by an actual will to follow through. She really can't do anything at all except wait, which is what she's been doing for a while now, but now it is out in the open and that is very dangerous for her. I really like how they showed the whole 'bacon 52' at the beginning of the season; I wonder who that gun is for? I was disappointed that in the room of 15 people I was watching it with, I was the only one who noticed the fact that the beginning of the season starts off a year ahead, I tried for a few minutes to talk about it but no one listened.  :sadpanda: "Hey, anyone notice how at the beginning he was turning 52 and now-"OMG WALT IS SO BADASS HE'S GOT LYKE NO HAIR AT ALL BUT THEN HAS THIS AWESOME GOATEE". Fuckers.

This show is amazing and I really fuggin' hate that this season is split. But that just means more quality episodes (at least it should; hopefully it does) so it's all good. P.S. Goddamn dubstep.
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on August 06, 2012, 03:17:27 PM
I think Walt is going to kill Mike.


and also, I don't see why SO many people hate Skyler. Yeah, she's a bitch, but people think, oh GOD, her husband is involved in all this shit!!!. She should not be upset in the slightest. !!!

GET REAL F00s
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Post by: Zoom E on August 06, 2012, 06:25:05 PM
That's what I'm thinking. Walt is gone. Way gone. That poor bitch; I hate her so much but the actor is doing a fantastic job of showing how a strong-willed woman breaks down in the face of severe violence and stone-cold threats backed by an actual will to follow through. She really can't do anything at all except wait, which is what she's been doing for a while now, but now it is out in the open and that is very dangerous for her. I really like how they showed the whole 'bacon 52' at the beginning of the season; I wonder who that gun is for? I was disappointed that in the room of 15 people I was watching it with, I was the only one who noticed the fact that the beginning of the season starts off a year ahead, I tried for a few minutes to talk about it but no one listened.  :sadpanda: "Hey, anyone notice how at the beginning he was turning 52 and now-"OMG WALT IS SO BADASS HE'S GOT LYKE NO HAIR AT ALL BUT THEN HAS THIS AWESOME GOATEE". Fuckers.

This show is amazing and I really fuggin' hate that this season is split. But that just means more quality episodes (at least it should; hopefully it does) so it's all good. P.S. Goddamn dubstep.

WOW, I totally missed that the opener was a year ahead, but I did wonder why he had a full head of hair in beginning. lol

I don't think Skylar is a bitch at all. She's just completely stressed out because her husband has turned into a complete psycho. 
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Post by: renzdrummer on August 07, 2012, 07:13:45 PM
Am I the only one that thought the end of the episode with the watch ticking made a sound like a camera taking a picture? I guess some people are saying it sounded like a gun cocking, but my first thought was that Jesse was spying on Walt.
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on August 07, 2012, 07:24:53 PM
I don't really see that happening  :lol
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Post by: GuineaPig on August 07, 2012, 08:43:28 PM
Just watched the most recent episode... Skylar is such a bitch!  >:(

Sigh.
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Post by: senecadawg2 on August 07, 2012, 08:53:08 PM
In my defense, I completely understand that she is justified in going off the deep end. It's just, ever since she discovered Walt's dark side, she has really irked me. I get that she should be angry, upset, and sad... but her way of dealing with that anger has perturbed me quite a bit. Just a couple examples... smoking while she was pregnant, having an affair, etc.

Bottom line, she hasn't dealt with her issues in a manner such that I can sympathize with her. Maybe bitch wasn't the right word choice, but she certainly is annoying IMO.
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Post by: MykeHavoc on August 07, 2012, 09:10:07 PM
Walt, for better or worse, is our protagonist. Anyone in opposition to him will likely irk us. He does bad things, though generally up to this point, they have been for good reason. Skylar seems to have no direction with any of the BS she pulls. She's a sad, pathetic character. Walt at least has a sack, as one would need to pull off some of the stunts that he has. It's the same way in which we identify with Tony Montana. There's no denying that by the end, he had gotten to where he was due to his own inflated sense of self-worth, but after you're done shaking your head is disgust, you quickly switch gears to cheering his rapid descent into primal rage. You know he isn't getting out alive, so the thrill is in seeing him take as many adversaries down as possible. Better to ride the ship all the one down then repent at the last minute out of fear. There's something admirable about determination, regardless of how flawed the "hero" is. 
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Post by: TioJorge on August 07, 2012, 09:33:24 PM
Oh, I totally understand why Skylar is the way she is right now. I just hate her as a person; her personality, her looks, her voice, they all make me wanna go all Jack The Ripper on the bitch. But as to her reactions to Walt: Yeah that's completely 'normal', whatever the fuck that means, but you understand. Or not.
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Post by: GuineaPig on August 07, 2012, 10:39:56 PM
In my defense, I completely understand that she is justified in going off the deep end. It's just, ever since she discovered Walt's dark side, she has really irked me. I get that she should be angry, upset, and sad... but her way of dealing with that anger has perturbed me quite a bit. Just a couple examples... smoking while she was pregnant, having an affair, etc.

Yeah, smoking while pregnant is bad.  It's nearly as bad as directly poisoning a child.

And she never had an affair. 

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Bottom line, she hasn't dealt with her issues in a manner such that I can sympathize with her.

Whereas Walt has.

Walt, for better or worse, is our protagonist. Anyone in opposition to him will likely irk us. He does bad things, though generally up to this point, they have been for good reason.

This is such a load of bullshit.  When has he ever had a good reason for anything he's done?
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Post by: orcus116 on August 08, 2012, 05:48:11 AM
I just find Skylar to be boring as a character. I do not care about her in any way or care what happens to her.
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Post by: senecadawg2 on August 08, 2012, 08:32:57 AM
In my defense, I completely understand that she is justified in going off the deep end. It's just, ever since she discovered Walt's dark side, she has really irked me. I get that she should be angry, upset, and sad... but her way of dealing with that anger has perturbed me quite a bit. Just a couple examples... smoking while she was pregnant, having an affair, etc.

Yeah, smoking while pregnant is bad.  It's nearly as bad as directly poisoning a child.

And she never had an affair. 

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Bottom line, she hasn't dealt with her issues in a manner such that I can sympathize with her.

Whereas Walt has.

Hey now, your comparisons between Walt and Skylar are uncalled for. I never said Walt>Skylar. Personally, I don't enjoy either of them as characters right now. At the end of the day though, Skylar is the most annoying IMO.
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Post by: MykeHavoc on August 08, 2012, 11:26:17 AM
Walt, for better or worse, is our protagonist. Anyone in opposition to him will likely irk us. He does bad things, though generally up to this point, they have been for good reason.

This is such a load of bullshit.  When has he ever had a good reason for anything he's done?


He starts making meth to make sure his family has financial security after his fast ascending death.
Did you forget?
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Post by: Dimitrius on August 09, 2012, 02:06:17 AM
Yes, but what was his good reason for wanting to kill Gus and poisoning Brock?


I loved the directing on this past episode and that scene between Skyler and Walt was amazing! I feel for Skyler, though she has blame for what she's going through (getting all hellbent on "helping" Walter with the money and stuff).
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Post by: MykeHavoc on August 09, 2012, 02:49:56 AM
I said generally. He has made the slow descent. Obviously there's no reason for him to be doing it anymore, but he's gotten the taste for it and enjoys the power and risk that comes with it. There's no turning back for him. But his intentions were once noble.
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Post by: GuineaPig on August 09, 2012, 08:19:17 AM
Walt was provided the opportunity to stop.  He was provided the opportunity to not go this route.  As soon as that mark was passed (episode 5) there was nothing noble about his actions.
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Post by: MykeHavoc on August 09, 2012, 10:49:21 AM
To accept charity from an old friend for his treatment? What if he had not survived? How would his family have gotten by? Your point is poor. I can't blame him for not wanting a hand-out. Cooking at least earned him the money, and over time accumulated WAY more. He wanted a stock pile of cash for his loved ones to have after his death. He didn't want to take any chances. I don't understand how someone can not understand that logic. His descent was progressive over every episode. There is absolutely no clear-cut line laid out at one specific moment.
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Post by: GuineaPig on August 09, 2012, 12:13:22 PM
To accept charity from an old friend for his treatment?

He was offered a job with full health benefits, or alternatively, for the treatment to be paid for directly.  It wasn't even as much charity as the money Elliot thought he sort of screwed Walt on and felt guilty about. 

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What if he had not survived? How would his family have gotten by? Your point is poor. I can't blame him for not wanting a hand-out. Cooking at least earned him the money, and over time accumulated WAY more. He wanted a stock pile of cash for his loved ones to have after his death.

Well, life insurance for one.  The house would've probably had to been sold, as well as one of the cars.  Skyler would've had to have gone back to work quickly (she did, but for non-financial reasons).  But plenty of families get by on much less.  Would it suck?  A bit.  But nothing compared to people who are actually in poverty, even by North American standards.  Most families don't have $500,000+ in savings, and most families will never even approach that.  It's not remotely a good enough rationale for producing methamphetamine, especially because...

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He didn't want to take any chances.

He put his family in massive danger.  Huge, huge danger.  He should've clued into this by episode 3, where he realized that if he didn't kill Krazy 8 he was going to murder his entire family.  Yet he continued to associate himself with dangerous drug lords.  Not to mention the threat of the Mexican cartels, which he completely ignores despite it being massive.  The danger he puts them in is colossal, and far outweighs any of the possible financial benefits.

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I don't understand how someone can not understand that logic. His descent was progressive over every episode. There is absolutely no clear-cut line laid out at one specific moment.

I think Vince Gilligan points to that as the moment where things start their downhill slide.
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Post by: MykeHavoc on August 09, 2012, 03:13:31 PM
When I said "take a chance", I was referring to not putting the family in any position where they wouldn't make bank in his absence. He didn't want his family to have to give up their home or a car. He wanted them to have extra. To not struggle. To be set for life. That's what all fathers/husbands want. To feel as though they are providing. To know their family never has to pinch pennies. Obviously there's a risk. At first, the inherent risk to himself seemed meaningless as he had a death sentence anyway. I don't think anyone was an honest threat to the family until the cartel became involved. By that point, he was too far in to back out.

Gilligan said most recently that his goal was to show how Mr. Chips could gradually turn into Scarface. That's exactly what we've gotten. I'd hardly say Walter had reached that point in the first season.

To clarify, I'm not picking your statements apart, as I know that's not likely your goal either. It's fun to go back and forth and theorize, like with any popular serialized show. I just personally empathize with Walt more than Skylar. But the heart of the show is Jesse. I'm surprised how attached I've gotten to him. That's how I see the current triangle: Walt is the brains, Mike is the balls, Jesse is the heart. While I have sympathized with Skylar at times, she's made too many irritating mistakes for me to not want to punch her in the head. At least Walt's goals end with money in the pocket (to note, it's obvious he's drunk off the power he has now more than anything, but as we've seen, the money does matter him, even if it is only a tool for, again, more power). Everything she does seems to be strictly destructive. I understand that that is how the character is being written. Emotionally, that's how I'm taking her: an annoyance. I know she's suffering from shock and perhaps even some mental illness or belated postpartum issues, but her actions just wreak of uselessness. Another obstacle to overcome. I'm not saying she deserved to be thrown into this situation, only stating that the way she is dealing with it is unacceptable. Sure, who knows what I'd do in the situation, but this is television. I'm not so much concerned with that. We need characters to identify with and be opposed to, and there's not really any villain right now. Skylar is essentially the current antagonist. I wouldn't be surprised if that's how the show shapes up.
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Post by: emblempride on August 09, 2012, 03:43:58 PM
Skylar's made a lot of bad mistakes, but, honestly, how is your psyche supposed to take your husband changing into a completely different person, someone willing to do the crazy shit Walt has done, in the span of a year? Her whole life got flipped upside down REALLY FUCKING FAST. It's easier to sympathize with Walt because he's at the heart of it all, but think of everything Skylar knows of that's happened in the past 4 seasons. I don't think I could very well handle that situation either.
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Post by: GuineaPig on August 11, 2012, 06:16:17 PM
I have a sneaking suspicion the next episode will be the best one yet.  Don't go looking up details unless you don't want to be (minorly) spoiled.
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Post by: senecadawg2 on August 12, 2012, 09:37:28 PM
Great episode tonight. It really did a great job of showcasing all of the elements which make Breaking Bad such a fun show... The suspense, the creativity, the acting, and that touch of humor, "yeah BITCHES!" Bryan Cranston is FANTASTIC.
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Post by: Dimitrius on August 13, 2012, 10:11:45 PM
DAT ENDING!
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Post by: wolfandwolfandwolf on August 15, 2012, 07:04:45 AM
Walter will most certainly use Todd for some pretty wicked stuff now.
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Post by: cramx3 on August 20, 2012, 07:24:11 PM
Walt becomes more dislikable every episode now.  It was a good tie in to use Grey Matter as his reason for not pulling out.
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Post by: senecadawg2 on August 20, 2012, 07:25:50 PM
Even though the two are completely different...

That dinner scene though...  :hefdaddy
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Post by: Dimitrius on August 20, 2012, 07:30:52 PM
They are but Walt's reasoning is understandable. 

Aaron Paul needs to get more props for his comedic timing.
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Post by: axeman90210 on August 20, 2012, 07:39:53 PM

Aaron Paul needs to get more props for his comedic timing.

:tup "Hell yeah I'm stoked for this lasagna" :lol
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Post by: Dimitrius on August 20, 2012, 08:36:06 PM
Seriously! :rollin
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Post by: senecadawg2 on August 20, 2012, 09:33:14 PM
Yeah, he's been great this season with that.
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Post by: MykeHavoc on August 21, 2012, 04:15:08 PM
There was some line of dialogue he said in Sunday's episode that made me burst out loud with laughter but I can't remember what it was exactly. Anyone have a better memory than me?
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Post by: Dimitrius on August 21, 2012, 05:37:11 PM
Probably this one:

:tup "Hell yeah I'm stoked for this lasagna" :lol
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Post by: Gadough on August 21, 2012, 06:15:27 PM
I never watch drama shows, but all this Breaking Bad hype is making me want to give it a shot.
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Post by: senecadawg2 on August 21, 2012, 06:16:44 PM
I never watch drama shows, but all this Breaking Bad hype is making me want to give it a shot.

You really should. Definitely not my favorite show ever, but definitely the best I'm currently watching
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Post by: Dimitrius on August 21, 2012, 06:29:07 PM
I never watch drama shows, but all this Breaking Bad hype is making me want to give it a shot.
Drew, stop your fail and watch this show immediately... BITCH!
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Post by: MykeHavoc on August 21, 2012, 06:30:55 PM
Probably this one:

:tup "Hell yeah I'm stoked for this lasagna" :lol

No, the discussion of that line made me think back to something else he said that made me laugh, but I can't remember.
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Post by: Gadough on August 21, 2012, 06:56:51 PM
I never watch drama shows, but all this Breaking Bad hype is making me want to give it a shot.
Drew, stop your fail and watch this show immediately... BITCH!

well I wasn't gonna but since you called me a bitch I think I have to

But seriously, I'll start watching it when I finish Community.
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Post by: Dimitrius on August 21, 2012, 07:02:03 PM
You'll understand why I called you that when you start seeing it.
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Post by: jcmistat on August 21, 2012, 10:17:04 PM
I just watched the Pilot yesterday. I can safely say I'm already hooked and can't wait to watch some episodes later tonight.
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Post by: senecadawg2 on August 22, 2012, 07:57:53 AM
Be warned: It gets even more addicting the farther along you go.
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Post by: MykeHavoc on August 22, 2012, 11:22:23 AM
Yeah, kinda like meth.


EDIT:

Found it!

"It gets all scabby on top...like you're eating a scab."

I died.
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Post by: jcmistat on August 22, 2012, 04:04:34 PM
Be warned: It gets even more addicting the farther along you go.

I watched 6 episodes last night to finish off the shortened season 1. Will start season 2 tonight. Fucking addicting.
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Post by: Dimitrius on August 22, 2012, 04:13:53 PM
Yo, that's good... BITCH!
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Post by: senecadawg2 on August 26, 2012, 09:13:16 PM
Walter just hit a new low... RIP Mike
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on August 26, 2012, 09:53:08 PM
This upsets me greatly....

Fuck you Vince Gilligan. You fucking genius. :lol
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Post by: Weymolith on August 27, 2012, 03:25:35 AM
Oh man. Mike was my favorite character.
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Post by: Dimitrius on August 27, 2012, 03:10:22 PM
I had a bad feeling all episode long about Mike... GODDAMN YOU WALT!!!


But that opening teaser

"You're Heisenberg"
"You're goddamn right!"

Badass level: so.
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Post by: toro on August 27, 2012, 03:33:11 PM
So, my sister still believes Walter ISN'T going to kill Jesse somehow. I'm sure this is going to happen after last night's episode.
Poor little thing... She is going to cry when that happens.
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Post by: TioJorge on August 27, 2012, 05:35:55 PM
That didn't really surprise me at all but it still made me a bit sad for both Walt and Mike. For as far gone as Walt is, he just keeps on strapping on those rocks to sink himself further. Really great episode though.

@toro: I think the exact opposite will happen. Jesse will have to kill Walt. Walt wants nothing more than to have Jesse by his side and help run his 'empire'; he wants to be king and he wants his ever-present right hand man right beside him for when he is gone. Hell, the man doesn't wear his wedding ring anymore, but puts that watch that Jesse gave him on. I'd love to be proven wrong so that Walt can solidify himself in the Thanos category level of insanity.
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Post by: senecadawg2 on August 27, 2012, 06:33:45 PM
Walt won't kill Jesse, that would be an awful ending. I expect Walter to die when his cancer comes back. Remember the episode when Skylar tells Walter that she is just waiting for the cancer? At the end of that episode, the watch was tick tick ticking away, symbolic of Walter's time... running out.
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Post by: toro on August 27, 2012, 06:58:37 PM
Walt won't kill Jesse, that would be an awful ending. I expect Walter to die when his cancer comes back. Remember the episode when Skylar tells Walter that she is just waiting for the cancer? At the end of that episode, the watch was tick tick ticking away, symbolic of Walter's time... running out.
Why would it be awful?
And Walter dying of cancer would be anticlimactic as fuck.
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Post by: MykeHavoc on August 27, 2012, 07:05:28 PM
It's pretty obvious the cancer comes back. In the flash-forward at the beginning of the first episode of this season, we see Walt at the diner alone on his 52nd birthday, with hair and his beard shaved. He starts coughing when he is in the bathroom, in the exact same way he did when he was sick. Then we see him go out to his car and pull a shotgun out of the trunk.
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Post by: toro on August 27, 2012, 07:07:23 PM
It's pretty obvious the cancer comes back. In the flash-forward at the beginning of the first episode of this season, we see Walt at the diner alone on his 52nd birthday, with hair and his beard shaved. He starts coughing when he is in the bathroom, in the exact same way he did when he was sick. Then we see him go out to his car and pull a shotgun out of the trunk.
Yeah, I'm not saying the cancer is not going to come back. I'm just saying Him dying of *just* cancer is going to be shieeeet.
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Post by: Big Hath on August 27, 2012, 10:58:04 PM
It's pretty obvious the cancer comes back. In the flash-forward at the beginning of the first episode of this season, we see Walt at the diner alone on his 52nd birthday, with hair and his beard shaved. He starts coughing when he is in the bathroom, in the exact same way he did when he was sick. Then we see him go out to his car and pull a shotgun out of the trunk.

that was actually an M60 he bought from the gun guy.  Fully automatic.
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Post by: Dimitrius on August 27, 2012, 11:30:23 PM
The same guy he bought the handgun from at the beginning of the fourth season.
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on August 28, 2012, 07:11:14 AM
Whatever happens, it should definitely be awesome. Vince sure knows what he's doing.


What if he's got the M60 because Skyler goes fucking nuts and kills everyone on the show, and Walt's gotta bring her down.  :metal
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Post by: cramx3 on August 28, 2012, 10:56:25 AM
Does anyone think hank and Walt eventually face each other?
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Post by: Marion Crane on August 28, 2012, 11:42:46 AM
They have to keep Hank from finding out until the last minute.  There wouldn't be anywhere else to really go after that storyline wise. 
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Post by: orcus116 on August 28, 2012, 07:15:13 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/w1pa3.jpg)
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Post by: cramx3 on August 28, 2012, 08:12:30 PM
 :rollin :rollin :rollin
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Post by: axeman90210 on August 28, 2012, 08:56:53 PM
:rollin :rollin :rollin
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Post by: Dimitrius on August 28, 2012, 09:00:28 PM
:rollin :rollin :rollin
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Post by: senecadawg2 on August 28, 2012, 09:22:04 PM
very funny  :lol
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Post by: toro on August 28, 2012, 10:52:59 PM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-CQCUkOoZKlI/UDbc3YqxnJI/AAAAAAAAAdI/_jIblq0ZZNQ/s1600/1345658896370.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3RV3UumaTAw/UDbdJL7OfdI/AAAAAAAAAdQ/aUP79x41u0I/s1600/1345733473752.jpg)
Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: El Barto on September 01, 2012, 09:30:05 AM
So when does this thing end?  I'm seeing lots of talk about cliffhangers and such.  I'm wrapping up the second season, and while it's easy enough to avoid spoilers at the moment, if there's going to be a big, over-hyped conclusion like the Soprano's, that'll become pretty hard to do.  I'm wondering if I need to speed up my viewing. 
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Post by: GuineaPig on September 01, 2012, 10:37:19 AM
Will still probably be a year until the finale, much like The Sopranos' final, divided, season.
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Post by: El Barto on September 01, 2012, 11:49:44 AM
Where are they currently in the first half of the last season?
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Post by: GuineaPig on September 01, 2012, 11:52:30 AM
Where are they currently in the first half of the last season?

Tomorrow will see the airing of the 8th and final episode of the first half.  The season is going to be 16 episodes in total, aired in two groups of 8.  The second group will likely air next summer.
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Post by: El Barto on September 01, 2012, 11:54:47 AM
Ahh, hence all the talk about cliffhangers.  Thanks.
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Post by: senecadawg2 on September 02, 2012, 09:06:44 PM
 :omg:
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Post by: axeman90210 on September 02, 2012, 09:07:59 PM
You guys...


You guys...


You guys!!!
Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: senecadawg2 on September 02, 2012, 09:08:47 PM
no kidding, what am I going to do until next summer?!?
Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: axeman90210 on September 02, 2012, 09:12:20 PM
I don't know about you, but I'm planning on taking a page out of Cartman's book and freezing mysel until next summer.
Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: bertoltus on September 03, 2012, 07:43:44 AM
To be fair, it had been foreshadowed several times in the series.
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Post by: Dimitrius on September 03, 2012, 07:46:02 AM
Well, I guess it was about time he found out.
Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: GuineaPig on September 03, 2012, 09:54:11 AM
I thought it was a weak episode.
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Post by: senecadawg2 on September 03, 2012, 11:02:34 AM
I thought it was a weak episode.

I have to agree, I was a bit underwhelmed. Although I did enjoy the ending.
Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: MykeHavoc on September 03, 2012, 02:22:00 PM
Honestly, (aside from the prison murders) I liked the more laid back and solemn feel to the episode. It will make the 10 month wait less agonizing. Had there been tons of cliffhangers, I'd have been aggravated. I feel it's more respectful to the fans to leave us with some more subdued things to ponder. In fact, I feel these first 8 episodes took the proper approach. Instead of trying to outdo the epic scale of season 4, they've allowed some gaps in action with silence and some wonderful subtle acting, more facially motivated, complimented with body language. I it as strong? Perhaps not. But for a show that theoretically could've just ended at the end of last season fairly satisfactorily, this season so far has been a nice "epilogue" of sorts. And so far, I'm certainly content.
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Post by: TioJorge on September 03, 2012, 04:25:52 PM
Honestly, (aside from the prison murders) I liked the more laid back and solemn feel to the episode. It will make the 10 month wait less agonizing. Had there been tons of cliffhangers, I'd have been aggravated. I feel it's more respectful to the fans to leave us with some more subdued things to ponder. In fact, I feel these first 8 episodes took the proper approach. Instead of trying to outdo the epic scale of season 4, they've allowed some gaps in action with silence and some wonderful subtle acting, more facially motivated, complimented with body language. I it as strong? Perhaps not. But for a show that theoretically could've just ended at the end of last season fairly satisfactorily, this season so far has been a nice "epilogue" of sorts. And so far, I'm certainly content.

Masterfully said. I concur.


To the max.
Fuck the wait, still.
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 03, 2012, 06:52:13 PM
Honestly, (aside from the prison murders) I liked the more laid back and solemn feel to the episode. It will make the 10 month wait less agonizing. Had there been tons of cliffhangers, I'd have been aggravated. I feel it's more respectful to the fans to leave us with some more subdued things to ponder. In fact, I feel these first 8 episodes took the proper approach. Instead of trying to outdo the epic scale of season 4, they've allowed some gaps in action with silence and some wonderful subtle acting, more facially motivated, complimented with body language. I it as strong? Perhaps not. But for a show that theoretically could've just ended at the end of last season fairly satisfactorily, this season so far has been a nice "epilogue" of sorts. And so far, I'm certainly content.

This, exactly!

The wait is gonna suck, but at least I have other stuff to watch until then!
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Post by: Dimitrius on September 03, 2012, 08:11:46 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/j8Fk6.jpg)
Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: senecadawg2 on September 03, 2012, 09:41:24 PM
^^^ :lol :lol

Honestly, (aside from the prison murders) I liked the more laid back and solemn feel to the episode. It will make the 10 month wait less agonizing. Had there been tons of cliffhangers, I'd have been aggravated. I feel it's more respectful to the fans to leave us with some more subdued things to ponder. In fact, I feel these first 8 episodes took the proper approach. Instead of trying to outdo the epic scale of season 4, they've allowed some gaps in action with silence and some wonderful subtle acting, more facially motivated, complimented with body language. I it as strong? Perhaps not. But for a show that theoretically could've just ended at the end of last season fairly satisfactorily, this season so far has been a nice "epilogue" of sorts. And so far, I'm certainly content.

This, exactly!

The wait is gonna suck, but at least I have other stuff to watch until then!

Let me help you get started with that  ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmIvu1yg3bU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmIvu1yg3bU)
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Post by: Dimitrius on September 03, 2012, 09:45:26 PM
I feel almost the same way, but I do need to catch up with Fringe and Sons of Anarchy returns next week so I guess I have stuff to watch.
Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: axeman90210 on September 03, 2012, 09:54:56 PM
Sons of Anarchy, Dexter, Boardwalk Empire, and football will carry me through the new year. Shortly after that, Justified should be back and that and Shameless will hold me over until the spring, when Game of Thrones and Mad Men (if they stick with the new spring schedule) will take me through the home stretch until new Breaking Bad next summer.
Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: Big Hath on September 03, 2012, 11:59:57 PM
I am getting some serious Moby Dick vibes from Breaking Bad.  Hank, who is sort of a captain of the ship now at the DEA, has a serious hobble from his dealings with this investigation and has an almost unhealthy obsession with finding his white whale (W.W.)


Also, nice use of Crystal Blue Persuasion in this episode.
Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: cramx3 on September 04, 2012, 08:54:38 AM
Since Ive been watching AMC and seeing commercials, my fiance and I have been watching The Walking Dead.  We like it so far and I think the 3rd season starts in October.
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Post by: Marion Crane on September 04, 2012, 09:25:43 AM
I'm wondering how Walt is going to explain the book.  Hank obviously is gonna assume it's from Gale.  It will probably play out something like this. 

Hank comes back to the table and makes a comment about how Walt "sure does have some boring ass reading material in his bathroom".  He'll casually mention the inscription.  Walt will say it's from Gretchen.  Hank believes him.  But throughout the next 5-6 episodes there's something he just can't shake about this book.  So, then he compares the handwriting.  BOOM.  Confirms it's Gale.

The real question here is if Hank would actually turn Walt in.  I personally don't think so.  WAlt/Heisenberg is Hank's Moby Dick.  But I don't see Hank turning Walt in when he was right under his nose the entire time.  Too much public damage to his pride.
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Post by: MykeHavoc on September 04, 2012, 09:39:51 AM
Yeah. If Hank turns Walt in at this point, it would be just as damaging for the both of them. That would tear apart the entire family. I'm honestly not sure what direction they will go in. We had that glimpse at the beginning on the season of the future. I'm certainly curious to see how that ties in.
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Post by: jcmistat on September 04, 2012, 11:39:42 AM
4 episodes left of Season 3 for me. Been plowing through the episodes, started Breaking Bad 2 weeks ago. Easily the most intense show I've ever watched and in a very good way. Every episode I'm going WTF just happened, are you serious!!!
Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: toro on September 04, 2012, 01:05:14 PM
4 episodes left of Season 3 for me. Been plowing through the episodes, started Breaking Bad 2 weeks ago. Easily the most intense show I've ever watched and in a very good way. Every episode I'm going WTF just happened, are you serious!!!
Aaaaawwww shit son. Just wait until you see "Half Measures" and "Full Measures"
Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: cramx3 on September 04, 2012, 10:40:57 PM
Yeah. If Hank turns Walt in at this point, it would be just as damaging for the both of them. That would tear apart the entire family. I'm honestly not sure what direction they will go in. We had that glimpse at the beginning on the season of the future. I'm certainly curious to see how that ties in.

That's a good point, I never thought about the shot to hanks pride if the dea found out it was his brother in law. We did see Walt looking like he was on the run and prepping for a fight (it seemed that way to me) so we don't know why just yet.
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Post by: kári on September 05, 2012, 04:11:52 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/hDFY6.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Dv38v.jpg)
Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: toro on September 05, 2012, 05:54:30 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/BSgOO.jpg)
Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: cramx3 on September 05, 2012, 07:54:38 PM
That would be a good spoof of an ending.
Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: El Barto on September 14, 2012, 10:01:18 AM
Quick question.  Are there supposed to be subtitles when they're speaking Spanish?  Last night there was a seemingly important sitdown with Gus, the cartel boss, the old man and the cousins, and since I don't speak Mexican I had no idea what they were saying (I've since found out).  I don't know if it's that my copy doesn't have los subtitulos, or if it's like the Godfather where you're just supposed to infer what's going on.  I noticed this at various other points along the way, but in those instances it was pretty easy to tell what was going on.
Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: Zoom E on September 15, 2012, 10:52:26 PM
Quick question.  Are there supposed to be subtitles when they're speaking Spanish?  Last night there was a seemingly important sitdown with Gus, the cartel boss, the old man and the cousins, and since I don't speak Mexican I had no idea what they were saying (I've since found out).  I don't know if it's that my copy doesn't have los subtitulos, or if it's like the Godfather where you're just supposed to infer what's going on.  I noticed this at various other points along the way, but in those instances it was pretty easy to tell what was going on.

My sister asked the same thing when she watched that episode a couple of weeks ago. No, there were no subtitles.
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Post by: Dimitrius on September 15, 2012, 11:11:17 PM
Quick question.  Are there supposed to be subtitles when they're speaking Spanish?  Last night there was a seemingly important sitdown with Gus, the cartel boss, the old man and the cousins, and since I don't speak Mexican
I know you're joking but damn does that irritate me!

Also, there's a much longer scene coming where that will happen again.
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Post by: El Barto on September 15, 2012, 11:23:42 PM
Hey, speaking of irritating Latin America, what ever happened to our Columbian parse? 

And for the record, Mexican actually is becoming a language up here.  We call it Spanglish. 

Came up on another scene tonight, but it was slightly easier to infer.  Gus made a point of saying Hank Shroeder very clearly and pronounced.  Doesn't mater anymore.  Downloaded .srt files for all of season 3. 

Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: SomeoneLikeHim on October 09, 2012, 06:54:10 AM
So... I just finished watching all 4½ seasons and HOLY SHIT this is good. I can't wait for more than half a year damnit!! :sadpanda:
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Post by: MetalMike06 on November 18, 2012, 03:18:28 PM
Thought I'd bump this thread. My roommate and I just finished watching the first four seasons on Netflix, and damn what a great show. Haven't watched any of season five yet. Is this season holding up pretty good as well?
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Post by: TioJorge on November 18, 2012, 03:20:20 PM
Oh yes, it's as amazing as the others and it's gearing up for one hell of an ending. Get on that shit.
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Post by: puppyonacid on February 26, 2013, 01:50:53 PM
I'm ressurecting this thread and I feel no guilt.

In three weeks I've ploughed through all four and a half seasons.

I liked the Sopranos, Band of brothers - caught up with Game of Thrones, and the Walking Dead; but holy moly, to me this show wins it hands down! What a truly epic series.

Brian Cranston is just sublime. Not a shred of bad casting, the script is so good it could have been a radio drama. I'm in love with this series and I wish to have babies with it. Roll on July!
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Post by: TioJorge on February 26, 2013, 01:54:55 PM
Couldn't have said it better myself. This show will go down in history for me as the epitome of television drama and what all shows should strive for. It's incredible. I'd like to say I have no worries for the final 8, but I do; I just really hope they keep the pace and the ending does not disappoint. Granted, I have absolutely no expectations because I know whatever it is, it's going to break my heart for the fact that it's over. I hate most television shows, and the few that I do watch I don't really consider amazing, it's just better than most crap. But this is on a different level, I don't even consider it television, it's just an amazingly long, episodic movie to me.

I cannot wait for the final 8!!! And it is about time to start hyping this shit up, it'll be here before we know it. SOON.
Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: El Barto on February 26, 2013, 03:43:03 PM
I've stayed out of this thread because I didn't watch the show until end of last year (plowed through it all). Damn good entertainment. The series premier really did it for me. The opening five minutes with Cranston blasting across the desert in his tighty-whiteys and gas mask with three bodies sloshing all over the Winnebago sold me on it, where I initially wasn't sure if I'd be interested in it or not, given the premise.

What initially got me interested in it was something I read from that Gilligan fellow about his idea for Walter White. He wanted to take a normal, likable fellow, and see what would happen if he had to turn into a bastard. How would it work? How long would the audience support him before turning on him? Tony Soprano, who kind of started the likeable bad-guy television persona, was always rotten. You liked him, but you knew from the start that he was something of a monster.  In this case, Walter started out as a good, honorable guy with reasonable intentions, but turned into a real POS so gradually that nobody really noticed when it happened. I can say that in my case I found him despicable well before the first season ended, but even then he was still occasionally sympathetic. Fascinating thing, really.
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Post by: puppyonacid on February 27, 2013, 02:34:21 AM
Yup I totally agree. That's one of the major draws that kept me watching was Walters transformation. What I find most intriguing about it is that it is such a huge transformation and yet it happens so subtly. Gotta give Brian Cranston as much credit for that as anything else.

I'm thinking the series will end like a train with a nuclear bomb on it being driven into a mountain. I think it'll be explosive and full on. And I don't see anything down for Walter White.

I'll bet Jesse is the last man standing.
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Post by: Dimitrius on February 27, 2013, 06:57:52 AM
Walt is pretty much irredeemable at this point, I don't see him surviving the series.
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Post by: El Barto on February 27, 2013, 08:27:42 AM
I'll bet Jesse is the last man standing.
Maybe. Given Jesse's blaze attitude towards the whole thing now, it wouldn't surprise me for him to be the lone survivor. That'd be interesting since it was Gilligan's intention to kill him off early as one of Walt's first casualties.

I always assumed it'd be the daughter who gets it, a la Mary Corleone. However, given that it looks like Hank will be his nemesis for the final season, a scenario where the family gets offed in a crossfire is hard to imagine. Jesse, on the other hand. . .
Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: Chino on March 08, 2013, 07:57:27 AM
I'm only on episode 6 of season 4, so I haven't read anything in this thread yet.

(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/63205_4832139436473_212141872_n.jpg)
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Post by: Dimitrius on March 08, 2013, 08:50:48 AM
That joke is getting old fast.
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on March 08, 2013, 09:20:07 AM
Yes everything about this show is awesome! I too was kind of late, watched episode 1-4 in one stretch last summer. I had to change my pants at the end of episode 8 even though i new the scenario was inevitable, i just didn't know when.
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Post by: Chino on March 13, 2013, 10:11:34 AM
I just finished season 4 on Netflix... My head exploded when we were shown the flower pot and plant at the end. Now I need to get my hands on the first half of season 5!
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Post by: puppyonacid on July 10, 2013, 03:53:39 AM
Not long now!

August the 11th from what I can tell.
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Post by: cramx3 on July 10, 2013, 05:05:18 AM
I can't wait. The preview for the season WW just gets me excited.
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Post by: Joshin U on July 10, 2013, 08:42:07 AM
I can't wait. The preview for the season WW just gets me excited.

Preview?! What preview?! Am I missing something?
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Post by: cramx3 on July 11, 2013, 11:49:31 AM
I can't wait. The preview for the season WW just gets me excited.

Preview?! What preview?! Am I missing something?

Last weekend while AMC was airing all the walking dead episodes there were like teaser previews where they kept showing the Walt Whitman / Walter White part.
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Post by: SomeoneLikeHim on July 11, 2013, 03:46:58 PM
GAAAH! Why did you have to remind me this is coming? I had almost forgotten about it, it still seems like a long time to go... :(
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Post by: The King in Crimson on July 11, 2013, 10:47:39 PM
Can't wait to see the end of this magnificent series. A part of me will be sad that I no longer have new Breaking Bad to look forward to, but I'll also be happy that it went out on a high point (crossing fingers/hoping for a omgwtfbbq-high-point) instead of just petering out into mediocrity like so many shows.
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Post by: cramx3 on July 12, 2013, 05:17:30 AM
Agreed. Its better when a TV show determines its end point instead of the TV network.
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Post by: Chino on July 15, 2013, 05:52:13 PM
Just finished episode 1 of season 5! I knew when season 4 ended the security cameras were going to come back and bite them on the dick! I can't wait until I can read through this whole thread. ... And some guy just killed himself on the toilet with a defibrillator  :sadpanda:
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on July 15, 2013, 06:33:34 PM
after eating chicken :lol

I watched Season 5 when it aired but I'm watching it again with my girlfriend so she can be ready by August
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Post by: soundgarden on July 15, 2013, 09:58:21 PM
Finally caught up so I can open this dam thread.

Not sure how this is going to play out, since taking down Walt will mean taking down Skyler as well...im sure his wife will not be too pleased
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Post by: Bolsters on July 15, 2013, 10:29:29 PM
I recently started rewatching this in preparation of the second half of season 5. I thought I would be a little bored watching season 1 because I've seen those episodes the most times, but that wasn't the case. Seems I had just forgotten how funny those early episodes of the series were. I'm going to be absolutely storming through this over the next few weeks.
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Post by: Joshin U on July 16, 2013, 10:20:52 AM
I recently started rewatching this in preparation of the second half of season 5. I thought I would be a little bored watching season 1 because I've seen those episodes the most times, but that wasn't the case. Seems I had just forgotten how funny those early episodes of the series were. I'm going to be absolutely storming through this over the next few weeks.

Yeah i just finished my complete re-watch too. On the second time around, I think I enjoyed season 3 the most, but only more than 4 because 4's mid-season seems to drag.
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on July 16, 2013, 06:05:41 PM
Season 4 is probably my favorite. I love 5 but I wish it was longer. The last 4 or 5 episodes of season 4 are just fucking amazing.
Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: Chino on July 17, 2013, 04:16:10 AM
So I finished the first half of season 5 last night... What a cool ending. I thought for sure when Hank sat down on the toilet, he was going to hear a cellphone vibrating in the water tank (indications the Walt wasn't really done).

This show has been a roller coaster of a ride.
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on July 17, 2013, 05:48:18 AM
What if the show takes a huge turn and Walt and Hank open up a mineral store or some badass shit.
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Post by: Chino on July 17, 2013, 06:06:40 AM
I've been going back and forth about what kind of note this show is going to end on. We have seen so much darkness and sadness already, it wouldn't surprise me if we see a non-happy ending. I think that would be kind of cool seeing as literally every single show I've watched has had an ending that ends on a high note or positively (not counting shows that were canceled before finale).

I'm thinking Walt's cancer comes back and he dies. It would bring the show full circle, and Hank wouldn't end up having to lock his brother away. I'm betting Jesse ends up in prison. What are the odds of Walt killing himself with the ricin? What is going to happen to Saul?!
Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: Joshin U on July 17, 2013, 07:55:23 AM
I've been going back and forth about what kind of note this show is going to end on. We have seen so much darkness and sadness already, it wouldn't surprise me if we see a non-happy ending. I think that would be kind of cool seeing as literally every single show I've watched has had an ending that ends on a high note or positively (not counting shows that were canceled before finale).

I'm thinking Walt's cancer comes back and he dies. It would bring the show full circle, and Hank wouldn't end up having to lock his brother away. I'm betting Jesse ends up in prison. What are the odds of Walt killing himself with the ricin? What is going to happen to Saul?!

The general consensus from fans is that Walt will have a violent death after killing several other key characters.  Personally, I think Walt will be one of the few characters to still be alive by the end of the show.  I think he will end up causing the deaths of his family as a twist of irony.  You know, "man who starts dealing drugs to protect his family's future ends up killing them through greed and egotism". I think it'd be fitting.
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Post by: Chino on July 17, 2013, 07:57:55 AM
I've been going back and forth about what kind of note this show is going to end on. We have seen so much darkness and sadness already, it wouldn't surprise me if we see a non-happy ending. I think that would be kind of cool seeing as literally every single show I've watched has had an ending that ends on a high note or positively (not counting shows that were canceled before finale).

I'm thinking Walt's cancer comes back and he dies. It would bring the show full circle, and Hank wouldn't end up having to lock his brother away. I'm betting Jesse ends up in prison. What are the odds of Walt killing himself with the ricin? What is going to happen to Saul?!

The general consensus from fans is that Walt will have a violent death after killing several other key characters.  Personally, I think Walt will be one of the few characters to still be alive by the end of the show.  I think he will end up causing the deaths of his family as a twist of irony.  You know, "man who starts dealing drugs to protect his family's future ends up killing them through greed and egotism". I think it'd be fitting.

Oh man. What if Flynn were to kill himself in that car Walt bought him!
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Post by: Joshin U on July 17, 2013, 08:00:48 AM
I've been going back and forth about what kind of note this show is going to end on. We have seen so much darkness and sadness already, it wouldn't surprise me if we see a non-happy ending. I think that would be kind of cool seeing as literally every single show I've watched has had an ending that ends on a high note or positively (not counting shows that were canceled before finale).

I'm thinking Walt's cancer comes back and he dies. It would bring the show full circle, and Hank wouldn't end up having to lock his brother away. I'm betting Jesse ends up in prison. What are the odds of Walt killing himself with the ricin? What is going to happen to Saul?!

The general consensus from fans is that Walt will have a violent death after killing several other key characters.  Personally, I think Walt will be one of the few characters to still be alive by the end of the show.  I think he will end up causing the deaths of his family as a twist of irony.  You know, "man who starts dealing drugs to protect his family's future ends up killing them through greed and egotism". I think it'd be fitting.

Oh man. What if Flynn were to kill himself in that car Walt bought him!

Or even worse, what if Holly killed her WHOLE FAMILY WITH THE M60 WALT BOUGHT???!!!

 :omg: :omg:
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Post by: Chino on July 17, 2013, 08:44:59 AM
I've been going back and forth about what kind of note this show is going to end on. We have seen so much darkness and sadness already, it wouldn't surprise me if we see a non-happy ending. I think that would be kind of cool seeing as literally every single show I've watched has had an ending that ends on a high note or positively (not counting shows that were canceled before finale).

I'm thinking Walt's cancer comes back and he dies. It would bring the show full circle, and Hank wouldn't end up having to lock his brother away. I'm betting Jesse ends up in prison. What are the odds of Walt killing himself with the ricin? What is going to happen to Saul?!

The general consensus from fans is that Walt will have a violent death after killing several other key characters.  Personally, I think Walt will be one of the few characters to still be alive by the end of the show.  I think he will end up causing the deaths of his family as a twist of irony.  You know, "man who starts dealing drugs to protect his family's future ends up killing them through greed and egotism". I think it'd be fitting.

Oh man. What if Flynn were to kill himself in that car Walt bought him!

Or even worse, what if Holly killed her WHOLE FAMILY WITH THE M60 WALT BOUGHT???!!!

 :omg: :omg:

Now we're talking.
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on July 17, 2013, 09:57:30 AM
I've seriously been waiting for Jr to have his big moment in the show.
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Post by: Chino on July 17, 2013, 11:05:16 AM
I've seriously been waiting for Jr to have his big moment in the show.

Maybe he turns in Walt to the DEA for all the shit he put his mother through.
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Post by: Dimitrius on July 17, 2013, 11:54:58 PM
I've seriously been waiting for Jr to have his big moment in the show.
You mean this wasn't it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ebevzx_ctg
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on July 18, 2013, 07:22:35 AM
Well that was the start of it. I'm ready for him to pull out a shotgun  :tup
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Post by: KevShmev on July 19, 2013, 02:14:11 PM
Just started watching this show.  Finished Season 1 and am loving it so far, but I suspect I should avoid this thread until I am caught up to avoid spoilers. :lol   
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Post by: Joshin U on July 22, 2013, 08:27:24 AM
Just started watching this show.  Finished Season 1 and am loving it so far, but I suspect I should avoid this thread until I am caught up to avoid spoilers. :lol

Basically stay away from the internet  :lol

But hurry! You have a shot at catching up before the premiere!
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on July 22, 2013, 08:58:45 AM
Only 21 days left.... Ohh man I can't wait! I may watch the last 8 episodes, I don't have time watching the whole show again.
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Post by: Marion Crane on July 22, 2013, 10:19:23 AM
Check this out.....

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/63365
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Post by: KevShmev on July 22, 2013, 12:16:25 PM
Just started watching this show.  Finished Season 1 and am loving it so far, but I suspect I should avoid this thread until I am caught up to avoid spoilers. :lol

Basically stay away from the internet  :lol

But hurry! You have a shot at catching up before the premiere!

At the rate I am going, I will be finished with Season 4 within a week (I am halfway through Season 3 right now).  But the problem is that Season 5 is not on netflix yet (where I am watching it), but supposedly once the new season starts, netflix will then carry the most recent season, so if Season 5 is then on there, I can DVR the new ones, watch Season 5 once it's on netflix and then catch up with the recorded episodes on DVR. This is assuming of course I have AMC; I should probably check that first. :lol

Either way, this show is beyond awesome.  I haven't been this addicted to a show since The Sopranos.   
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Post by: Joshin U on July 22, 2013, 12:26:24 PM
Just started watching this show.  Finished Season 1 and am loving it so far, but I suspect I should avoid this thread until I am caught up to avoid spoilers. :lol

Basically stay away from the internet  :lol

But hurry! You have a shot at catching up before the premiere!

At the rate I am going, I will be finished with Season 4 within a week (I am halfway through Season 3 right now).  But the problem is that Season 5 is not on netflix yet (where I am watching it), but supposedly once the new season starts, netflix will then carry the most recent season, so if Season 5 is then on there, I can DVR the new ones, watch Season 5 once it's on netflix and then catch up with the recorded episodes on DVR. This is assuming of course I have AMC; I should probably check that first. :lol

Either way, this show is beyond awesome.  I haven't been this addicted to a show since The Sopranos.

 :omg: Damn, that's pretty impressive! My girlfriend's mom marathoned all 4 seasons in one weekend earlier this year  :lol
 Yeah, it's a shame they don't have Season 5A up on Netflix.  Best you can do legally is iTunes or Amazon as of now. 

At any rate, yes, BB is like celluloid crack, except good for your soul. 
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Post by: KevShmev on July 22, 2013, 03:26:39 PM
I might watch it on iTunes.  I rarely buy from there anymore, and I got $50+ in gift cards for there for my birthday last week, so I might as well use that money on something. 

Either way, I really am gonna try to dodge this thread till I am caught up...
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Post by: TioJorge on July 22, 2013, 03:35:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVekIINuAV8
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Post by: Chino on July 24, 2013, 08:51:54 PM
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on July 25, 2013, 03:28:32 AM
Mythbusters doing a Breaking Bad special:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxcwAfKayUk

 :metal
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Post by: bertoltus on July 25, 2013, 04:47:49 AM
OK, here are my predictions for the characters at the end of the last season:

Walt: Definitely dead. If he doesn't go down in a fight or kills himself, the cancer will still get him.
Jesse: That one has been through so much, he really deserves a happy ending.
Hank: Really hard to predict that one. He either gets killed by Walt or ends up catching him. Or he goes to prison because everyone thinks he was protecting Walt all the time.
Skyler: Either dead or in prison.
Walt Jr.: Being that dark of a show, I could really see them killing him off as an unnecessary sacrifice.
Saul: You would expect the lawyer to pull a Karma Houdini and get away, but I think he's actually gonna die a very brutal death.
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Post by: Chino on July 25, 2013, 05:00:01 AM
I'm thinking Walt's entire family dies and he lives. That would make everything he did the last 5 seasons a complete waste.
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Post by: Bolsters on July 25, 2013, 05:03:30 AM
I'm thinking Walt's entire family dies and he lives. That would make everything he did the last 5 seasons a complete waste.
I was thinking something similar. It just seems to fit the tone of the show to me that everything he did ends up being for nothing, that it destroys his family somehow (whether it's death or something else), and that Walt has to suffer through what days he has left living with it.
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Post by: Joshin U on July 25, 2013, 07:56:04 AM
OK, here are my predictions for the characters at the end of the last season:

Walt: Definitely dead. If he doesn't go down in a fight or kills himself, the cancer will still get him.
Jesse: That one has been through so much, he really deserves a happy ending.
Hank: Really hard to predict that one. He either gets killed by Walt or ends up catching him. Or he goes to prison because everyone thinks he was protecting Walt all the time.
Skyler: Either dead or in prison.
Walt Jr.: Being that dark of a show, I could really see them killing him off as an unnecessary sacrifice.
Saul: You would expect the lawyer to pull a Karma Houdini and get away, but I think he's actually gonna die a very brutal death.


I doubt they'll kill off Saul; they're making a spinoff show about him   :lol

Yeah, it could be a prequel, but I'm leaning towards side "Saul lives".
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Post by: Chino on July 25, 2013, 08:33:44 AM
OK, here are my predictions for the characters at the end of the last season:

Walt: Definitely dead. If he doesn't go down in a fight or kills himself, the cancer will still get him.
Jesse: That one has been through so much, he really deserves a happy ending.
Hank: Really hard to predict that one. He either gets killed by Walt or ends up catching him. Or he goes to prison because everyone thinks he was protecting Walt all the time.
Skyler: Either dead or in prison.
Walt Jr.: Being that dark of a show, I could really see them killing him off as an unnecessary sacrifice.
Saul: You would expect the lawyer to pull a Karma Houdini and get away, but I think he's actually gonna die a very brutal death.


I doubt they'll kill off Saul; they're making a spinoff show about him   :lol


GET OUT!!! That's awesome.
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Post by: Joshin U on July 25, 2013, 08:43:45 AM
Yeah, already in the works!  Obviously it'll be a completely tone than BB, but I think Saul is hysterical, so I'll tune in.
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Post by: Chino on July 25, 2013, 09:00:07 AM
Yeah, already in the works!  Obviously it'll be a completely tone than BB, but I think Saul is hysterical, so I'll tune in.

But if he's still playing the same crooked lawyer, it's going to have to have at the least a similar tone.
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Post by: Joshin U on July 25, 2013, 09:12:21 AM
Yeah, already in the works!  Obviously it'll be a completely tone than BB, but I think Saul is hysterical, so I'll tune in.

But if he's still playing the same crooked lawyer, it's going to have to have at the least a similar tone.

For sure, but I think the vibe the creators are giving is more lighthearted than BB; less dark.
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Post by: TioJorge on July 25, 2013, 02:36:14 PM
Something interesting to note if we're theorizing about Saul's survival...

Vince Gilligan said that Saul is the only safe one, and compared him to a cockroach in that he may be disgusting as he is, but he will always be the one to get away and survive. However, in an interview after that, not too long ago, he said that the supposed spin-off TV show could very well be a prequel. Maybe he changed his mind... either way, I'm betting Saul lives.

I think Walt and Hank will kill each other or Hank actually arrests Walt. Skylar, Walt Jr....I have no idea, I think they may get away and that will be Walt's one redeeming point in the end is getting his family away and safe and he goes down in flames to facilitate the process of keeping the target on him. I've thought this for a while but it's looking less likely as the show has gone on with Walt and Skylar's relationship being nonexistent. I kind of hope for this, but doubt it'll happen. Jesse will die.

I've pictured the Saul show not unlike his interactions with others in scenes of the actual show, with new material and/or how he began his descent into being Gus' guy. So he'd probably be dealing with some crooked business and be doing shifty things as he does, it'll be him that is quirky and comedic. I think it could be really neat if done correctly and if they keep some of the macabre and serious scenes (just much less prevalent).
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Post by: KevShmev on July 25, 2013, 04:37:58 PM
I can't imagine a show centered around Saul being that great.  He is an awesome supporting character, but to have a whole show every week center around him?  No.

Anyway, I am not sure if I think Walt will live or not.  Mostly, I think not, but then again, given the Scarface analogies that Vince Gilligan himself has made, it's almost like he sees Walter White going down like Tony Montana: in a blaze of glory, after taking down everyone around him first of course.
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Post by: senecadawg2 on July 25, 2013, 06:39:34 PM
I'll be disappointed if Walt is the only one left alive at the end, as some here have theorized. He's similar to the character of Dexter in that I can't imagine any satisfying ending not involving his eventual death. It would be kind of anti-climactic if the cancer came back, so I see him somehow getting taken down by Hank or Jesse.

And I agree with Kev about Saul. He's an incredible supporting character, but I have trouble imagining an entire show with him at the center.
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on July 25, 2013, 06:43:51 PM
Would love to see Jesse be the one that ends his life. Jesse, I believe, will be the true hero of this story.
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Post by: KevShmev on July 25, 2013, 06:56:15 PM
I don't see that at all.  Jesse is like the Christopher Moltisanti of Breaking Bad: the drug addict screw-up whom his boss/partner put up with far longer than he should have, but eventually is put out of his misery.

Also, reading through this whole thread now, now that I am caught up, I can't believe anyone questioned whether or not Walt was the one who poisoned Brock at the end of Season 4; the ending where they showed the lily of the valley flowers in Walt's backyard couldn't have been more obvious (not to mention an awesome way to end the season).

I don't get the Skylar hate.  Is she supposed to skip down the street with happiness that her longtime husband turned into a crystal meth cook and a killer?
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on July 25, 2013, 07:00:38 PM
Thing about Breaking Bad is, just when I see it going one way, it takes a b-line in the other direction. I have no idea how it will play out, but I'm sure it will be amazing, like the other seasons.

Right when I saw that, it was apparent it was Walt. Not sure why anyone would think else.

And I don't get the Skylar hate either. She can be a bitch (a lot), but can you really blame her? Walt's a fucking asshole :lol
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Post by: KevShmev on July 25, 2013, 07:02:27 PM
Pretty much.  The scene near the end of Season 5 where Walt invites Jesse to have dinner in their home after Skylar came home was basically a big FU to her. 
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on July 25, 2013, 07:04:08 PM
Pretty much.  The scene near the end of Season 5 where Walt invites Jesse to have dinner in their home after Skylar came home was basically a big FU to her.

Very much so. The way I look at it: I sometimes try to put myself in her position. She has it pretty bad.
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Post by: senecadawg2 on July 25, 2013, 07:05:09 PM
I can't speak for others on the matter, but this is why I dislike Skylar.

(http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/skyler-hazard-pay-650x364.jpg)






And that dinner scene was golden. Two thumbs up my ass  :tup :tup
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on July 25, 2013, 07:09:14 PM
What amazes me is that such a goddess as Claire Danes..

(http://i.imgur.com/4qr0vL0.jpg)


Can look like this a minute later

(http://i.imgur.com/asgKn4r.jpg)
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Post by: KevShmev on July 25, 2013, 08:55:35 PM
Pretty much.  The scene near the end of Season 5 where Walt invites Jesse to have dinner in their home after Skylar came home was basically a big FU to her.

Very much so. The way I look at it: I sometimes try to put myself in her position. She has it pretty bad.

Yep.  She is basically trapped, and what is even worse is nearly everyone blames her for the problems, since Walt is the poor husband with cancer who got cheated on.  And yet she keeps her mouth shut so he doesn't get arrested or have Flynn doesn't turn against him.
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Post by: Joshin U on July 26, 2013, 08:25:58 AM
Pretty much.  The scene near the end of Season 5 where Walt invites Jesse to have dinner in their home after Skylar came home was basically a big FU to her.

Very much so. The way I look at it: I sometimes try to put myself in her position. She has it pretty bad.

Yep.  She is basically trapped, and what is even worse is nearly everyone blames her for the problems, since Walt is the poor husband with cancer who got cheated on.  And yet she keeps her mouth shut so he doesn't get arrested or have Flynn doesn't turn against him.

I side with Skyler way quicker than I side with Walt.  Skyler can be a bitch, and this past season she has been annoyingly moody, but her actions are almost understandable given how much of an egomaniacal, self-centered ass Walt has become.
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Post by: Chino on July 26, 2013, 08:44:02 AM
So how do you guys think it's going to play out initially with Walt and Hank? I don't think Hank is going to confront him right away. I think he's going to do his own private investigation thing on the side. I think Walt is going to notice the books in the bathroom were out of order or something and assume Hank knows.
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Post by: KevShmev on July 26, 2013, 08:49:46 AM
Why would Walt notice the books out of order?  I doubt he knows of any specific order the books are in next to Hank's crapper.  But I do agree that Hank will play it off like everything is normal while investigating Walt to see if his apparent suspicion is correct. 
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Post by: Joshin U on July 26, 2013, 08:51:40 AM
So how do you guys think it's going to play out initially with Walt and Hank? I don't think Hank is going to confront him right away. I think he's going to do his own private investigation thing on the side. I think Walt is going to notice the books in the bathroom were out of order or something and assume Hank knows.

I think eventually Hank WILL confront Walt and then Walt will say something like,

"How do you think you've been paying your physical therapy bills for the past few months? You are as neck deep in this as I am."

But seeing as Hank has let his Heisenberg obsession take over his whole life, he obviously won't let it go and will continue to try to bring Walt down.
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Post by: Chino on July 26, 2013, 11:44:43 AM
I can't imagine a show centered around Saul being that great.  He is an awesome supporting character, but to have a whole show every week center around him?  No.

Anyway, I am not sure if I think Walt will live or not.  Mostly, I think not, but then again, given the Scarface analogies that Vince Gilligan himself has made, it's almost like he sees Walter White going down like Tony Montana: in a blaze of glory, after taking down everyone around him first of course.

I think this is thinking of Saul just as we've seen him. We haven't seen him outside of his "on the job persona". We know nothing of his home life or back story. Look at Mike for example. At first his character was kind of cool, but then we got exposed to his granddaughter and his character became all that more interesting and real. I think it would be cool to see Saul out of the office. Maybe he's got a few kids that don't know what kind of dirty work he does.
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Post by: KevShmev on July 26, 2013, 01:49:19 PM
Eh, I think seeing another side of Saul would take away from his character.  He is a great supporting character who is basically a one-trick pony; best to leave him that way.
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Post by: KevShmev on July 28, 2013, 10:28:27 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkTDilC-860
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Post by: SomeoneLikeHim on July 28, 2013, 12:42:02 PM
 :lol I love that scene.
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Post by: KevShmev on July 29, 2013, 10:04:33 AM
Funny thing about that scene is, if you watch Cranston, right after he throws the pizza on the roof, as he is walking to his car, you see him do a quick glance up at the pizza, which you know was Bryan Cranston, not Walter White, thinking, "Holy shit, how did I do that on the first take?" :lol :lol :lol
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Post by: Joshin U on July 29, 2013, 10:25:17 AM
Funny thing about that scene is, if you watch Cranston, right after he throws the pizza on the roof, as he is walking to his car, you see him do a quick glance up at the pizza, which you know was Bryan Cranston, not Walter White, thinking, "Holy shit, how did I do that on the first take?" :lol :lol :lol

I re-watched the series after hearing this story and, yes, his subtle reaction is priceless  :lol
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Post by: The Trooper on August 01, 2013, 10:49:32 AM
Starting rewatching the 5 seasons now to get back up to speed. Pouring here and kids gone for 2 days. BB marathon is on!
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Post by: Chino on August 01, 2013, 10:57:36 AM
I watched the first half of season 2 again the other day.... wow. I can't believe how far off the tracks Walt got. I didn't sink in as that drastic as the show went on because of the slow transition. At one point Walt was doing a bunch of math in his head and said something like "$378,000, that's what I need to make". Cray.
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Post by: Joshin U on August 01, 2013, 11:34:51 AM
Interesting article; I agree with most of it.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/louispeitzman/the-16-worst-things-walter-white-has-done-on-breaking-bad (http://www.buzzfeed.com/louispeitzman/the-16-worst-things-walter-white-has-done-on-breaking-bad)
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Post by: KevShmev on August 01, 2013, 11:42:35 AM
Hard to argue with numbers 1 and 2.  The interesting thing is the death of Jane was accidental and he was genuinely conflicted about whether to save her or not - he still had some humanity at that point - but by the time he poisons that kid, he has no humanity left.

I think sending the neighbor lady into his house under false pretenses, when he was on the run from Gus and didn't know if the house would explode when he entered it or if guys were waiting for him, should have been in this list. 
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Post by: Chino on August 01, 2013, 11:48:57 AM
Interesting article; I agree with most of it.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/louispeitzman/the-16-worst-things-walter-white-has-done-on-breaking-bad (http://www.buzzfeed.com/louispeitzman/the-16-worst-things-walter-white-has-done-on-breaking-bad)

@NetworkFilterAtWork

FFFFUUUUUUUUUU
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Post by: Joshin U on August 01, 2013, 12:06:45 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/s9YNReI.png?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/MmO3MOa.png?1)
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Post by: Dimitrius on August 05, 2013, 10:36:01 AM
So, I can't be the only who thinks that Gus and Max were lovers, right? I had a hint of it when I originally saw the episodes, but now rewatching them and getting to that flashback in "Hermanos" I truly believe they were lovers.
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Post by: KevShmev on August 05, 2013, 10:59:35 AM
I never got that vibe.  I just figured they were close friends, but I guess since Gus was a single guy who we never saw have any love interest, that makes him gay?  Meh.
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Post by: Dimitrius on August 05, 2013, 11:19:10 AM
:lol It has nothing to do with him being a single guy.

It was more with how they act when they're in the meeting with Don Eladio. When Max starts pleading for Gus' live he starts to break down, his voice wavers, his hand shakes. And I don't know it would put more emotional weight to Gus' crusade against that cartel, the scholarship he made in Max's name and his hatred of Hector Salamanca.

Sure, this can all mean that they were just close friends as well, but being lovers gives it more dramatic effect IMO.
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Post by: Joshin U on August 05, 2013, 11:40:43 AM
So, I can't be the only who thinks that Gus and Max were lovers, right? I had a hint of it when I originally saw the episodes, but now rewatching them and getting to that flashback in "Hermanos" I truly believe they were lovers.

The question "is Gus gay?" or even "is Gale gay?"  is a huge inside joke for the hardcore BB fanbase   :lol

It's possible, but I don't think it should be a focal point of Gus' character.

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Post by: soundgarden on August 05, 2013, 12:16:13 PM
I really think Jesse is gonna end up killing him.

1) He let Jane die
2) He poisoned that kid
3) He killed Mike
4) He convinced him to kill Gail
5) He won't let him quit
6) His loyalty to Jesse is in fact complete self interest.

I think Jesse will somehow learn of all this and then make his move.  Walt should have never walked into his driveway that one day....
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Post by: Chino on August 05, 2013, 12:22:48 PM
I really think Jesse is gonna end up killing him.

1) He let Jane die
2) He poisoned that kid
3) He killed Mike
4) He convinced him to kill Gail
5) He won't let him quit
6) His loyalty to Jesse is in fact complete self interest.

I think Jesse will somehow learn of all this and then make his move.  Walt should have never walked into his driveway that one day....

I think Walt is going to kill Jesse.
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Post by: KevShmev on August 05, 2013, 01:36:01 PM
Yep, if one of them kills the other, Walt will be the one killing Jesse, IMO.  Also, unless Walt has another moment where he doesn't realize what he is saying (like when he mentioned the 2nd cell phone to Skylar before going into surgery, or when he almost admitted to watching Jane die near the end of the Fly episode), there is simply no way Jesse will find out about Walt's role in Jane's death. 



It was more with how they act when they're in the meeting with Don Eladio. When Max starts pleading for Gus' live he starts to break down, his voice wavers, his hand shakes. And I don't know it would put more emotional weight to Gus' crusade against that cartel, the scholarship he made in Max's name and his hatred of Hector Salamanca.

Sure, this can all mean that they were just close friends as well, but being lovers gives it more dramatic effect IMO.

I'll have to re-watch that scene and get back to you.  I admittedly have only seen it once.
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Post by: Chino on August 05, 2013, 02:13:05 PM
Yep, if one of them kills the other, Walt will be the one killing Jesse, IMO.  Also, unless Walt has another moment where he doesn't realize what he is saying (like when he mentioned the 2nd cell phone to Skylar before going into surgery, or when he almost admitted to watching Jane die near the end of the Fly episode), there is simply no way Jesse will find out about Walt's role in Jane's death. 

Did Walt tell Saul about Jane?

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Post by: Joshin U on August 05, 2013, 02:16:10 PM
Yep, if one of them kills the other, Walt will be the one killing Jesse, IMO.  Also, unless Walt has another moment where he doesn't realize what he is saying (like when he mentioned the 2nd cell phone to Skylar before going into surgery, or when he almost admitted to watching Jane die near the end of the Fly episode), there is simply no way Jesse will find out about Walt's role in Jane's death. 

Did Walt tell Saul about Jane?

Hell no.
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Post by: KevShmev on August 05, 2013, 02:19:58 PM
No, but it is likely, since I doubt Walt did it himself, that Saul arranged the kid being poisoned by the lily of the valley flower, but it is hard to envision a scenario where Jesse would have Saul in a position where he would have to give that up, especially since Jesse doesn't know there is anything to give up, so Saul would have to blurt it out without provocation.  Maybe if Walt double crosses Saul or something, but I just don't see it.
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Post by: Chino on August 05, 2013, 02:36:37 PM
I bet we see Saul make a striking move in the last 8 episodes. Up until now he really hasn't done anything (outside of being the crooked lawyer) other than finding the pesticide business to turn into a new meth operation and set up the car wash. It's about time his character has a big impact on the story. 
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Post by: KevShmev on August 05, 2013, 03:59:45 PM
I don't see that.  Saul is who he is, a criminal lawyer, and making him a bigger part of the story would seem a bit far-fetched. 
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on August 05, 2013, 05:03:46 PM
I don't see that.  Saul is who he is, a criminal lawyer, and making him a bigger part of the story would seem a bit far-fetched.

I agree. He has a role, and he's played it very well. Nothing more, nothing less.


But who knows what will happen.
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Post by: Dark Castle on August 05, 2013, 07:18:14 PM
Catching up on Season 5, jesus Walter is becoming a very scary person.
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Post by: The Trooper on August 07, 2013, 04:27:56 PM
It is funny rewatching the series, the hindsight is interesting. I am rewatching season 2, and the scene where Walt is on the couch with Skyler, and he keeps asking her what is wropng etc. He seems so vulnerable, then I just think of what he eventually becomes and I actually laugh.
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Post by: Dimitrius on August 07, 2013, 04:51:16 PM
Yeah! Seeing what he's become from where season 5 left us, it's incredible to remember that this series started with Walter on his underwear apologizing into a camera to his family. :lol
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Post by: axeman90210 on August 07, 2013, 08:27:33 PM
Just finished my re-watch of the first part of season 5. So good. Really pumped for Sunday night.
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Post by: SomeoneLikeHim on August 11, 2013, 07:22:34 AM
:soon:

I'm so pumped, my body is ready.
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Post by: KevShmev on August 11, 2013, 09:16:26 AM
I won't be home till a few hours after the episode, but I will be DVRing it and watching it the minute I get home.  Can't wait! :hat :hat :hat
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Post by: TioJorge on August 11, 2013, 09:39:37 AM
I won't be home till a few hours after the episode, but I will be DVRing it and watching it the minute I get home.  Can't wait! :hat :hat :hat
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Post by: KevShmev on August 11, 2013, 12:00:58 PM
Tio, is that you?  If so, ring your bell. ;)
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Post by: Dimitrius on August 11, 2013, 12:44:21 PM
www.tiosbell.com
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Post by: TioJorge on August 11, 2013, 12:51:34 PM
 :lol :metal
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Post by: KevShmev on August 11, 2013, 12:59:55 PM
:lol

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Post by: KevShmev on August 11, 2013, 01:40:39 PM
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on August 11, 2013, 01:42:51 PM
VERY excited for this. Been waiting so long.
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Post by: Chino on August 11, 2013, 04:36:51 PM
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Post by: Lucidity on August 11, 2013, 04:45:46 PM
My parents both hate the character of Walt and think he's a terrible person; my friend and I think he is a great character and a certifiable badass (we're all on Season 3). Although he lacks some morality, I don't think he's devoid of emotion... where did you all stand on Walt's character at this point in the series?
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Post by: Dark Castle on August 11, 2013, 04:48:12 PM
I find him extremely fascinating, you'll see it the farther you get along, but how he changes as a person is incredible, Jesse as well. I like Walt, all the while though I'm scared of what he's willing to do.
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Post by: MetalMike06 on August 11, 2013, 04:53:05 PM
I kept telling myself that I'd just wait 'til Season 5 is over and I'll buy it/Netflix it and watch it all at once (just like I did for the first four seasons)...But I am so tempted to stay in and watch tonight. Ugh!
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Post by: Dimitrius on August 11, 2013, 04:55:58 PM
My parents both hate the character of Walt and think he's a terrible person; my friend and I think he is a great character and a certifiable badass (we're all on Season 3). Although he lacks some morality, I don't think he's devoid of emotion... where did you all stand on Walt's character at this point in the series?
My current stand on Walter is predicated on events you haven't seen yet, but I'm no longer on his side and I'm honestly watching to see his demise.
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Post by: Chino on August 11, 2013, 05:11:42 PM
My parents both hate the character of Walt and think he's a terrible person; my friend and I think he is a great character and a certifiable badass (we're all on Season 3). Although he lacks some morality, I don't think he's devoid of emotion... where did you all stand on Walt's character at this point in the series?
My current stand on Walter is predicated on events you haven't seen yet, but I'm no longer on his side and I'm honestly watching to see his demise.

Yeah. I want to see him kill himself.
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Post by: Dark Castle on August 11, 2013, 06:51:21 PM
10 MORE MINUTES HNNNNNNGH.

Watching the last episode of the last half season on AMC, god the tension could be cut with a knife.

EDIT: THIS EPISODE
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HOLY SHEEEEEEEEEIT
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Post by: orcus116 on August 11, 2013, 08:05:55 PM
It would've been a little better if they had just cut to the "Created by Vince Gilligan" as soon as the garage door closed.
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Post by: axeman90210 on August 11, 2013, 08:14:03 PM
Tread lightly.
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Post by: Sigz on August 11, 2013, 09:44:09 PM
So I had only seen up to season 2 until this weekend. I marathoned 3-5 on friday-saturday (34 episodes in 36 hours, boosh), and am now fully caught up.

God damn.
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Post by: Dimitrius on August 11, 2013, 09:56:57 PM
Tread lightly.
This, fucking this!!

I did a little viewing party with a few friends, and you can't really do that without breaking out the meth!

(http://puu.sh/3ZSx3.jpg)


(http://puu.sh/3ZSxG.jpg)
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Post by: KevShmev on August 11, 2013, 10:43:48 PM
My parents both hate the character of Walt and think he's a terrible person; my friend and I think he is a great character and a certifiable badass (we're all on Season 3). Although he lacks some morality, I don't think he's devoid of emotion... where did you all stand on Walt's character at this point in the series?

He is a great character AND a terrible person. 

Anyway, great episode tonight.  The last five minutes was way too awesome.  I love that they didn't dick around with it; they got right to it with the Hank and Walt confrontation.  "Tread lightly."  Awesome. :hefdaddy :hefdaddy

But what about the cold opening?  Why does Walt nine months later come home back for the ricin?  And why is their house which is now closed off?  So many great questions.  I am sure it will be awesome as it we get the answers. :tup :tup
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Post by: senecadawg2 on August 11, 2013, 10:48:14 PM
The ricin bit has me flumoxed. Also a bit surprised that the cancer has reappeared. Makes sense, I suppose, but I also don't see that being the death of Walt. After all of this, it would be a bit anticlimactic for the cancer to kill him. Fitting perhaps, but anticlimactic nonetheless.
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on August 11, 2013, 10:49:51 PM
Tread lightly.
This, fucking this!!

I did a little viewing party with a few friends, and you can't really do that without breaking out the meth!

(http://puu.sh/3ZSx3.jpg)


(http://puu.sh/3ZSxG.jpg)

You're Heisenberg..
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Post by: Dimitrius on August 11, 2013, 10:54:08 PM
If you really know who I am, then you better tread lightly...
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Post by: FireForADryMouth on August 12, 2013, 01:56:32 AM
The ricin bit has me flumoxed. Also a bit surprised that the cancer has reappeared. Makes sense, I suppose, but I also don't see that being the death of Walt. After all of this, it would be a bit anticlimactic for the cancer to kill him. Fitting perhaps, but anticlimactic nonetheless.

I think Walt will go out in a blaze of glory and the ricin is for him. Wants to make sure he doesn't want to survive whatever he is about to do.
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Post by: Chino on August 12, 2013, 03:29:06 AM
The ricin is totally for Walt.
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Post by: Chino on August 12, 2013, 05:57:56 AM
Last night I made my FB status "R.I.P Flynn" and woke up flooded with text messages of hate  :lol
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Post by: KevShmev on August 12, 2013, 10:08:40 AM
Why would the ricin be for Walt?
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Post by: Chino on August 12, 2013, 12:19:40 PM
Why would the ricin be for Walt?

Well he made it a while ago and has thought about using it on different people. It would just seem fitting that he eventually uses it on himself.
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Post by: KevShmev on August 12, 2013, 12:22:41 PM
No way that happens.  I mean, if he is gonna kill himself, he already has the ammo in the trunk of that car to do it.  Why give himself a painful death with the ricin when he could end it all in about two seconds?
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Post by: Dimitrius on August 12, 2013, 12:26:25 PM
From what's been shown so far I cannot imagine Walter thinking of killing himself! He has been increasingly been all about self-preservation (Gale, Gus, Mike, the 10 people in jail) so I just can't see that for now.
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Post by: Chino on August 12, 2013, 12:28:34 PM
From what's been shown so far I cannot imagine Walter thinking of killing himself! He has been increasingly been all about self-preservation (Gale, Gus, Mike, the 10 people in jail) so I just can't see that for now.

That's because nothing has happened to his family yet as a result of his actions. I could imagine him seeing Flynn get shot in the face and deciding to kill himself very shortly after.
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Post by: KevShmev on August 12, 2013, 12:30:28 PM
I read an interview with Vince Gilligan that was not released until after last night's episode where he said that they considered holding off the Walt/Hank confrontation till mid-season, but in his words, they still have "a lot of shit to tell," so they got right to it.  I suspect every episode from now till the end will see multiple major events happen, so we can all speculate till we are blue in the faces about what will happen, but odds are most of us will be way off, and even better odds are that the writers will do things none of us saw coming.  It's gonna be a helluva ride. :tup :tup
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Post by: Dark Castle on August 12, 2013, 12:35:25 PM
Still waiting for Walt to be relocated and start his new life as Hal in Malcolm in the Middle  :lol
My friends and I keep playing with that idea heheh.
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on August 12, 2013, 12:43:57 PM
 :omg: :omg: Those last 10mins!! :omg:  :omg: I think I stopped breathing for a bit..

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Post by: Chino on August 12, 2013, 12:46:31 PM
Does this mean that Hank and the DEA tracked Walt's car going to both Saul's firm and Jesse's house?
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Post by: Dark Castle on August 12, 2013, 12:47:49 PM
Most likely, although at the moment I don't think they can connect that in any way.
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Post by: Chino on August 12, 2013, 12:50:12 PM
Most likely, although at the moment I don't think they can connect that in any way.

Why not?
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Post by: Dark Castle on August 12, 2013, 12:55:38 PM
I'm probably missing what you're getting at, but it's extremely circumstantial at the moment, and in my sleep deprived mind, doesn't really equate to anything.
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Post by: Dimitrius on August 12, 2013, 12:58:02 PM
Wouldn't that be conjecture on Hank's part or something? I mean yes he can prove he went to Jesse's and Saul's places but he has no idea WHY.
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Post by: KevShmev on August 12, 2013, 01:15:41 PM
Does this mean that Hank and the DEA tracked Walt's car going to both Saul's firm and Jesse's house?

No, because remember that the tracker is not live; Hank has to retrieve it and hook it up to the computer to see where he had gone.  And I am guessing Walt is not gonna hand it back to him (I cannot remember where it went last night after Hank punched Walt), so Hank may never see what was on it.

Besides, they cannot make a case out of that.  They have nothing on Jesse, and for all they know, Saul is simply his lawyer.
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Post by: TioJorge on August 12, 2013, 01:18:48 PM
Just finished watching. Absolutely incredible start to the final lap. I loved the nods to Gus, what with Walt channeling the 'innocent manager' vibe at the car wash, as well as the folding of the towel so nonchalantly as he was about to hurl into a toilet. I also loved that while he will clearly forever and always fuck Jesse over and lie to his face, he actually told the truth for once when telling Skylar about Lydia; I was kind of floored he did that. No longer is this the paranoid, scared Walt. This is it: The final metamorphosis; I cannot wait to see what Walt is planning with the machine-gun and ricin combo. I personally think it'd be more likely for Walt to confess all his sins and turn himself in (read: never fucking ever) than it is for him to commit suicide.

Damn, is this bittersweet. There has never been another show that is as compelling, well-written, or outstandingly acted as this. It's beautiful though, that garage standoff scene had me on edge and at one point I actually instinctively brought my hand over my mouth when Hank clocked Walt. It begins! I almost actually like the fact that they have so little time to tell the rest of this story as each and every moment of this show is going to be hitting the grindstone and going buck-fucking-wild. AWPOETIUHAS;FLKBANP9HGAWT. I can't wait for the final 7.
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Post by: Chino on August 12, 2013, 01:19:34 PM
Does this mean that Hank and the DEA tracked Walt's car going to both Saul's firm and Jesse's house?

No, because remember that the tracker is not live; Hank has to retrieve it and hook it up to the computer to see where he had gone.  And I am guessing Walt is not gonna hand it back to him (I cannot remember where it went last night after Hank punched Walt), so Hank may never see what was on it.

Besides, they cannot make a case out of that.  They have nothing on Jesse, and for all they know, Saul is simply his lawyer.

Very true. I forgot about that. I was just getting at the fact that I believe Jesse to be very vulnerable right now. He's literally throwing his cash down the drain is is probably back to that really dark place he was at when he had a house full of meth heads. If Hank were to confront him about anything, odds are he'd breakdown and talk.
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Post by: TioJorge on August 12, 2013, 01:55:48 PM
Chino, you have the most insane predictions.  :lol I say that with all the love in the world. Not that I'm hating, I mean, I'm not even gonna try and predict what Walt will do with the ricin, but from my view, there's no way it's for himself and...I think it's more likely that Walt uses the ricin on himself than Jesse telling Hank anything but "Fuck you, bitch". Not only that, but Hank more than likely has long realized during his recent investigation that Jesse is just as much collateral damage as anything else Walt has done. Now, perhaps he will attempt to somehow how leverage and use Jesse, but outright questioning him? They are long past that...

But hey, I'd be happy to eat my words if any of that came true, as the writers have proven time and time again that they're clearly more creative and much more intelligent than any of the viewers as for as many predictions I've seen, none have come true. I'm ready to be stumped by these genius motherfuckers!!!!! ARGH I WANT THE WHOLE SEASON RIGHT FUCKING NOW.
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Post by: KevShmev on August 12, 2013, 02:31:18 PM
Just finished watching. Absolutely incredible start to the final lap. I loved the nods to Gus, what with Walt channeling the 'innocent manager' vibe at the car wash, as well as the folding of the towel so nonchalantly as he was about to hurl into a toilet. I also loved that while he will clearly forever and always fuck Jesse over and lie to his face, he actually told the truth for once when telling Skylar about Lydia; I was kind of floored he did that. No longer is this the paranoid, scared Walt. This is it: The final metamorphosis; I cannot wait to see what Walt is planning with the machine-gun and ricin combo. I personally think it'd be more likely for Walt to confess all his sins and turn himself in (read: never fucking ever) than it is for him to commit suicide.

Damn, is this bittersweet. There has never been another show that is as compelling, well-written, or outstandingly acted as this. It's beautiful though, that garage standoff scene had me on edge and at one point I actually instinctively brought my hand over my mouth when Hank clocked Walt. It begins! I almost actually like the fact that they have so little time to tell the rest of this story as each and every moment of this show is going to be hitting the grindstone and going buck-fucking-wild. AWPOETIUHAS;FLKBANP9HGAWT. I can't wait for the final 7.

Amen to all of that.

Interesting theory (STOP READING IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO READ IT) I read is that Walt often imitates the acts of those he has killed:

-cutting the crust off his bread like he did for Krazy-8
-ordering his drink the way Mike did
-driving the same kind of car Gus did and adopting his "happy manager" persona at the car wash

Along those lines, I didn't catch this, but in the flash forward at the beginning of Season 5, when he was at Denny's for his 52nd birthday, his fake name supposedly used Skylar's maiden name.  Does this mean he will eventually kill Skylar, while later adopting her maiden name when he is under an assumed identity? 

Probably far-fetched, but with this show, anything is possible.  You never know.
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Post by: Dimitrius on August 12, 2013, 02:36:48 PM
The only think I'm predicting is that he probably used the "getaway card" Saul gave him in the 4th season to escape prosecution or whatever and that's why he's Mr. Lambert from New Hampshire in the flashforwards.

Also, Breaking Bad as a romcom (your welcome): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWrRPohom3I
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Post by: KevShmev on August 12, 2013, 02:39:39 PM
Hatchie's Quick Vanish. :lol
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Post by: Sigz on August 12, 2013, 04:29:28 PM
Just finished watching. Absolutely incredible start to the final lap. I loved the nods to Gus, what with Walt channeling the 'innocent manager' vibe at the car wash, as well as the folding of the towel so nonchalantly as he was about to hurl into a toilet. I also loved that while he will clearly forever and always fuck Jesse over and lie to his face, he actually told the truth for once when telling Skylar about Lydia; I was kind of floored he did that. No longer is this the paranoid, scared Walt. This is it: The final metamorphosis; I cannot wait to see what Walt is planning with the machine-gun and ricin combo. I personally think it'd be more likely for Walt to confess all his sins and turn himself in (read: never fucking ever) than it is for him to commit suicide.

Damn, is this bittersweet. There has never been another show that is as compelling, well-written, or outstandingly acted as this. It's beautiful though, that garage standoff scene had me on edge and at one point I actually instinctively brought my hand over my mouth when Hank clocked Walt. It begins! I almost actually like the fact that they have so little time to tell the rest of this story as each and every moment of this show is going to be hitting the grindstone and going buck-fucking-wild. AWPOETIUHAS;FLKBANP9HGAWT. I can't wait for the final 7.

Amen to all of that.

Interesting theory (STOP READING IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO READ IT) I read is that Walt often imitates the acts of those he has killed:

-cutting the crust off his bread like he did for Krazy-8
-ordering his drink the way Mike did
-driving the same kind of car Gus did and adopting his "happy manager" persona at the car wash

Along those lines, I didn't catch this, but in the flash forward at the beginning of Season 5, when he was at Denny's for his 52nd birthday, his fake name supposedly used Skylar's maiden name.  Does this mean he will eventually kill Skylar, while later adopting her maiden name when he is under an assumed identity? 

Probably far-fetched, but with this show, anything is possible.  You never know.

Not to mention that he made his bacon into his birthday year, like skylar did for holly.
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Post by: TioJorge on August 12, 2013, 04:50:14 PM
You know, I have noticed that, but reading it all at once kind of puts it in perspective. As such, I think it's more of a subtle nod by the writers than an actual point in the character, because it seems to be a bit too subtle. But if this season were to have an obvious story point that Walt is a special kind of psychopath and that is his modus operandi of sorts, that would be so fucking awesome.
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Post by: Chino on August 12, 2013, 05:59:51 PM
New theory. Hank knows Walt went to Jeese's. Jesse tells hank about the ricin. Hank kills Walt with the ricin.

Mark it.

I also think Walt is faking his cancer.
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Post by: TioJorge on August 12, 2013, 06:59:34 PM
I can roll with rats and schemers, but I see no reason, even among the most ridiculous theories, as to why Walt would need to actually put a deadly, radioactive chemical inside of his body for the sake of keeping up appearances if he were faking. We've seen too much of him suffering on his own; not to mention him actively attempting to hide it from his family, which should pretty much debunk that theory right there since...his actions would be contradicting his intentions if he were faking. Although I've seen a handful of others say the same, I personally think that theory makes absolutely no sense.
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Post by: Dimitrius on August 12, 2013, 07:08:39 PM
New theory. Hank knows Walt went to Jeese's. Jesse tells hank about the ricin. Hank kills Walt with the ricin.

Mark it.

I also think Walt is faking his cancer.
So he's taking chemo just for fun?
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Post by: Chino on August 12, 2013, 07:15:36 PM
New theory. Hank knows Walt went to Jeese's. Jesse tells hank about the ricin. Hank kills Walt with the ricin.

Mark it.

I also think Walt is faking his cancer.
So he's taking chemo just for fun?

Not for fun, but necessity. It'll play into the complex puzzle.
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on August 12, 2013, 07:19:21 PM
Todd's uncle kills Skyler and Walt Jr, and kidnaps Holly. Walt leaves, changes his identity (for safety precautions), and comes back to kill Todd's uncle and get Holly back :corn
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Post by: Chino on August 12, 2013, 07:21:19 PM
Todd's uncle kills Skyler and Walt Jr, and kidnaps Holly. Walt leaves, changes his identity (for safety precautions), and comes back to kill Todd's uncle and get Holly back :corn

What's Tod's uncle's motive?
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on August 12, 2013, 07:39:58 PM
Oh I don't even know, I was just making something up randomly. I don't really see him coming to play later anyway.

It's really intriguing to see how this will end. Walt could die at the end, going out guns blazing, but something tells me that it might end very differently.
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Post by: Chino on August 12, 2013, 07:41:01 PM
Oh I don't even know, I was just making something up randomly. I don't really see him coming to play later anyway.

It's really intriguing to see how this will end. Walt could die at the end, going out guns blazing, but something tells me that it might end very differently.

Like Flynn molests Holly or something?
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on August 12, 2013, 07:43:09 PM
Nah, that would be too obvious. Maybe Marie just snaps and fucks Saul and gets money.
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Post by: Chino on August 12, 2013, 08:03:05 PM
Hahaha

Mythbusters BB special is on!!
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Post by: KevShmev on August 12, 2013, 11:04:32 PM
I can roll with rats and schemers, but I see no reason, even among the most ridiculous theories, as to why Walt would need to actually put a deadly, radioactive chemical inside of his body for the sake of keeping up appearances if he were faking. We've seen too much of him suffering on his own; not to mention him actively attempting to hide it from his family, which should pretty much debunk that theory right there since...his actions would be contradicting his intentions if he were faking. Although I've seen a handful of others say the same, I personally think that theory makes absolutely no sense.

Agreed.  It is absolutely laughable to suggest that Walt went to get the ricin to give it to himself.  That is one of the more absurd theories I have ever read.
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Post by: TioJorge on August 12, 2013, 11:37:39 PM
I can roll with rats and schemers, but I see no reason, even among the most ridiculous theories, as to why Walt would need to actually put a deadly, radioactive chemical inside of his body for the sake of keeping up appearances if he were faking. We've seen too much of him suffering on his own; not to mention him actively attempting to hide it from his family, which should pretty much debunk that theory right there since...his actions would be contradicting his intentions if he were faking. Although I've seen a handful of others say the same, I personally think that theory makes absolutely no sense.

Agreed.  It is absolutely laughable to suggest that Walt went to get the ricin to give it to himself.  That is one of the more absurd theories I have ever read.

Well, I was actually referring to the chemo-therapy; but yes, both apply to the point.  :P The suicide (at all; but especially by ricin) theory is preposterous and kinda makes me wonder if people who came up with it have watched the show at all... Or rather have missed any part that Walt is in since he kinda...does anything imaginable to stay alive.

I rewatched the episode for the third time just now and I forgot to mention something before that is perhaps my most favorite part of the episode despite there being so many great moments. The exact moment that Hank walks out after composing himself and hiding the book, you hear Marie jokingly say to Walt, "You're the devil!".  :rollin







 :sadpanda: :millahhhh Kinda miss the days when Walt was scared to hold a gun...
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Post by: puppyonacid on August 13, 2013, 05:40:13 AM
Holy Fudge was that intense! I watched it last night.

I didn't rewatch any of the series as I just haven't had time but so much came flooding back.

I have no clue how things with Walt and Hank will play out. The only speculation I would feel comfortable staying firm on is that I think Jesse will make it out alive. Seems odd, but I think his conscience will save him.

Walt is soooo cold! That man wouldn't boil in space!

I'm kinda thinking that the cancer thing is a ruse. It's a stalling tactic and he's using it to appeal to try appeal to any compassion Hank has......not only that but he's using his own children as leverage and basically a "I did it for the kids."

I am excite to see where this goes.
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Post by: Syzzle on August 13, 2013, 05:51:24 AM
Wouldn't the doctors check to make sure his cancer is back before giving him Chemotherapy? I don't think he could just go in and say my cancer is back give me Chemotherapy.
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Post by: puppyonacid on August 13, 2013, 05:53:29 AM
You're probably right, but I can't recall the episode where it was said that his cancer had come back.
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Post by: Chino on August 13, 2013, 06:26:45 AM
Walt is a fucking genius. I am sure he knows of a way to show a false positive on a cancer test. He is completely cancer free. The clip in the beginning of season five showing him with a full head of hair indicates that it's a possibility.

Michael Scolfield in Prison Break made himself false positive in order to gain repeated entry into the hospital ward.
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Post by: Full Speed on August 13, 2013, 07:55:37 AM
You're probably right, but I can't recall the episode where it was said that his cancer had come back.

While he never said it outright until this episode, it was heavily implied in S5E08 when they focused on the bet up paper towel dispenser right after he got a cat scan.

And also foreshadowed in the S5E01 flashfoward when he started coughing and took a pill in the bathroom before meeting with the arms dealer.
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Post by: jsem on August 13, 2013, 08:09:48 AM
The last ten minutes were so intense. Can't wait for the conclusion to this.
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Post by: Dimitrius on August 13, 2013, 08:10:25 AM
Walt is a fucking genius. I am sure he knows of a way to show a false positive on a cancer test. He is completely cancer free. The clip in the beginning of season five showing him with a full head of hair indicates that it's a possibility.
When you're having chemo a second time around, hair doesn't necessarily fall off.

And I agree that it's completely absurd to think he's faking the cancer and hiding it from the family.
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Post by: Chino on August 13, 2013, 08:25:10 AM
I think another possibility might be that Walter sides with hank to help bring down the rest of the meth organization if it means not going to prison forever. I could have sworn I saw a microphone on him in S5E1. I thought it might have just been a mistake, but the more I think about it, maybe he's going undercover or something.
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Post by: mike099 on August 13, 2013, 08:54:59 AM
This is possible.  There are a couple of things I thought of:

1)  Jesse's fingerprints are all over the money he is throwing out the window.  Possible someone turns in the money or a cop drives by and picks it up and that puts Hank is Jesse's business once again.

2)  What if Skyler accidently paid for the storage unit with a credit card, Hank runs the financials and traces the money back to the storage unit.  Of course that would be an unlikely error to pay for the unit with a CC when you have all of that cash.


I think another possibility might be that Walter sides with hank to help bring down the rest of the meth organization if it means not going to prison forever. I could have sworn I saw a microphone on him in S5E1. I thought it might have just been a mistake, but the more I think about it, maybe he's going undercover or something.

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Post by: Joshin U on August 13, 2013, 09:04:36 AM
Last night I made my FB status "R.I.P Flynn" and woke up flooded with text messages of hate  :lol

 :rollin :rollin :rollin

Sunday's episode was fantastic.  I'm surprised Hank already confronted Walt, but I'm also happy.  The cat-and-mouse game would have gotten stale fast.

Is anyone else getting annoyed with Jesse? I understand his actions and attitude, but its nonetheless still a retread of his character in past seasons. I like Science Bitch Jesse more than Tear-Stained Bong Jesse.
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Post by: KevShmev on August 13, 2013, 09:20:55 AM
This is possible.  There are a couple of things I thought of:

1)  Jesse's fingerprints are all over the money he is throwing out the window.  Possible someone turns in the money or a cop drives by and picks it up and that puts Hank is Jesse's business once again.

2)  What if Skyler accidently paid for the storage unit with a credit card, Hank runs the financials and traces the money back to the storage unit.  Of course that would be an unlikely error to pay for the unit with a CC when you have all of that cash.


1) I seriously doubt that people in the neighborhood where Jesse was tossing the money are gonna turn it in to the cops. :lol

2) No chance.
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Post by: Chino on August 13, 2013, 09:22:28 AM
This is possible.  There are a couple of things I thought of:

1)  Jesse's fingerprints are all over the money he is throwing out the window.  Possible someone turns in the money or a cop drives by and picks it up and that puts Hank is Jesse's business once again.

2)  What if Skyler accidently paid for the storage unit with a credit card, Hank runs the financials and traces the money back to the storage unit.  Of course that would be an unlikely error to pay for the unit with a CC when you have all of that cash.


1) I thought the exact same thing. Or maybe go as far as saying the bum reported it along with his car's make and license plate...

2) I'm curious if the unit comes into play. Skyler seems way to smart in the finance realm to make such a novice error. I mean, she is running a money laundering car wash...
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Post by: Full Speed on August 13, 2013, 09:54:07 AM
How could the money possibly lead back to the storage unit? It's a storage unit, they can keep whatever they want in there with no paper trail of its contents.
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Post by: Chino on August 13, 2013, 09:55:36 AM
How could the money possibly lead back to the storage unit? It's a storage unit, they can keep whatever they want in there with no paper trail of its contents.

I'm not saying that the money could lead to the storage unit. Outside of the lab equipment, the storage unit is the biggest piece of evidence against Walt (and Skyler at this point).
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Post by: Dimitrius on August 13, 2013, 09:56:31 AM
People, you really need to see this video!

Breaking Bad as a rom-com (your welcome): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWrRPohom3I
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Post by: senecadawg2 on August 13, 2013, 09:57:10 AM
This is possible.  There are a couple of things I thought of:

1)  Jesse's fingerprints are all over the money he is throwing out the window.  Possible someone turns in the money or a cop drives by and picks it up and that puts Hank is Jesse's business once again.

1) I thought the exact same thing. Or maybe go as far as saying the bum reported it along with his car's make and license plate...

 :lol What an absurd twist.

I'm actually starting to think, as we get closer to the end of it all, that Jesse will die. He's so low right now, I have trouble seeing him recover, at which point someone's going to put him out of his misery.


ETA: Just watched the rom-com video. I have tears in my eyes  :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
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Post by: SomeoneLikeHim on August 13, 2013, 10:06:42 AM
People, you really need to see this video!

Breaking Bad as a rom-com (your welcome): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWrRPohom3I
i came, i saw, i laughed.
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Post by: Joshin U on August 13, 2013, 10:32:56 AM
"I was curious..."

 :lol
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Post by: senecadawg2 on August 13, 2013, 10:35:35 AM
Say my name.

HEISENBERG
Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: TioJorge on August 13, 2013, 12:40:06 PM
I think Walt is secretly fucking Marie and that Hank sometimes calls her Gale (her maiden name) so he thinks that the book belongs to Marie and that Walt is her orgasm star. Jesse turns out to be Santa Claus lab assistant and the money are the presents. Saul and Hank hook up after Saul is finished with his operation. Jane is the first zombie before they transition into Dead In The Middle.

































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THEORIES. THEY COME FROM SPACE AND ASSES.

Just FYI...cancer does not make you lose your hair, chemotherapy does...and it's fairly common that after long-term treatment and/or dosage differentiations, hair will grow back. (Usually in a different texture/sometimes color than it originally was...and if anyone thinks Walt actually looks healthier in the flash-forwards than he does now...you're blind)

The hobo!? I mean...is that srsly srs? No wai. U Joakstr.

Tear-stained-bong Jesse  :rollin :rollin :lol

So...it's 103 degrees where I am and...I'm watching the scene in the desert where Jesse and Walt are walking back from the Tuco shootout. I...I feel their pain...fucking Texas. Hell's asshole.
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Post by: jsem on August 13, 2013, 03:43:00 PM
People, you really need to see this video!

Breaking Bad as a rom-com (your welcome): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWrRPohom3I
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
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Post by: cramx3 on August 13, 2013, 05:23:15 PM
People, you really need to see this video!

Breaking Bad as a rom-com (your welcome): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWrRPohom3I
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin

That was pretty good  :lol
Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: Chino on August 13, 2013, 05:32:59 PM
From what's been shown so far I cannot imagine Walter thinking of killing himself! He has been increasingly been all about self-preservation (Gale, Gus, Mike, the 10 people in jail) so I just can't see that for now.

I wouldn't be so sure of that. He tried to kill himself in the pilot.
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Post by: Sigz on August 13, 2013, 05:35:11 PM
He's also a drastically different person than he was in the pilot.
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Post by: Dimitrius on August 13, 2013, 05:48:48 PM
From what's been shown so far I cannot imagine Walter thinking of killing himself! He has been increasingly been all about self-preservation (Gale, Gus, Mike, the 10 people in jail) so I just can't see that for now.

I wouldn't be so sure of that. He tried to kill himself in the pilot.
Yeah, because he's the same exact person he was in the pilot! Come on, now!
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Post by: Chino on August 13, 2013, 05:57:04 PM
From what's been shown so far I cannot imagine Walter thinking of killing himself! He has been increasingly been all about self-preservation (Gale, Gus, Mike, the 10 people in jail) so I just can't see that for now.

I wouldn't be so sure of that. He tried to kill himself in the pilot.
Yeah, because he's the same exact person he was in the pilot! Come on, now!

Right... But attempting to kill yourself is a very specific trait... Not exactly something everyone has the balls to do. He decided to do it in the heat of the moment in a split second. That means the idea is something that must have run through his mind time and time again if he was that content and already comfortable with. That seed could still be there.
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Post by: KevShmev on August 13, 2013, 06:22:54 PM
Chino, I think it goes without saying that you should never be a writer. :biggrin:
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Post by: Chino on August 14, 2013, 04:43:27 AM
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Post by: jsem on August 14, 2013, 04:47:25 AM
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: Chino on August 14, 2013, 08:14:30 AM
Chino, I think it goes without saying that you should never be a writer. :biggrin:

Why? Because I pay too much attention to detail?  :lol
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Post by: Full Speed on August 14, 2013, 08:34:13 AM
The man Walter has become would never kill himself.

Unless some other drastic things happen in his life (which obviously do from the Flash Forwards). I can't see it happening, but future Walter seems more soft-spoken than the egotistical monster he is now so who knows. Future Walter at least still has cancer and most likely hasn't been getting chemotherapy for a while if he has a full head of hair, so maybe he's already completely given up on himself.
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Post by: orcus116 on August 14, 2013, 07:56:14 PM
Chino, I think it goes without saying that you should never be a writer. :biggrin:

Why? Because I pay too much attention to detail?  :lol

Probably more because you don't seem to know how to correctly utilize the details  :)
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Post by: soundgarden on August 14, 2013, 07:59:17 PM
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So this is funny and all; but is there a specific difference between anal lube and regular lube? 

I am asking for a friend...
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Post by: Chino on August 14, 2013, 09:07:29 PM
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So this is funny and all; but is there a specific difference between anal lube and regular lube? 

I am asking for a friend...

Anal lube is generally water-based and less viscous. This allows it to stay in the cavity without spilling out everywhere.
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Post by: KevShmev on August 14, 2013, 09:24:41 PM
Chino, I think it goes without saying that you should never be a writer. :biggrin:

Why? Because I pay too much attention to detail?  :lol

Probably more because you don't seem to know how to correctly utilize the details  :)

Well, I didn't want to say it, but...yeah. ;)
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on August 14, 2013, 09:49:45 PM
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Tread lightly...





...down the dirt path.
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on August 15, 2013, 02:59:47 PM
Evolution of Walter White (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ_gEa14Otk)

Awesome trailer.
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Post by: SomeoneLikeHim on August 15, 2013, 03:25:05 PM
I have seen lots of those but that might be my favorite so far. :tup
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Post by: Heretic on August 15, 2013, 03:46:22 PM
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thought my newest pixel art avatar would fit here
Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: Chino on August 17, 2013, 07:03:16 AM
http://www.bettercallsaul.com/
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Post by: mike099 on August 17, 2013, 01:25:56 PM
Love the 'Better call Saul' site.

Lydia will most certain die in this series, but not before she gets back at Walt.

In the garage scene, I could not make out what Hank said to Walt near the end.  Did Hank say he was going to tell Skyler or have Skyler and kids live with him and Marie.

Cannot wait for the next episode.
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Post by: TioJorge on August 17, 2013, 01:42:40 PM
He just wanted the kids and Skylar to stay with him and Marie; thus far he is probably still ignorant of Skylar's involvement. I doubt that will last much longer though.
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Post by: JDW89 on August 18, 2013, 04:01:33 AM
Can't wait for later on tonight! This show is getting so intense.
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Post by: Chino on August 18, 2013, 05:37:59 AM
I think Marie will kill Skylar.
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Post by: TioJorge on August 18, 2013, 07:01:14 AM
 :lol  :metal

But not after she fucks Flynn.

I am so excited that I'm working the morning shift for once on Sundays. I almost always close and therefore never get to go to the get-togethers my toats BFF has every week. FINALLY I'll be able to catch this as it airs, which for some reason gives me more satisfaction than watching it after the fact (despite commercials). WOOT WOOOOOOT! DO THE JESSE DANCE.
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Post by: Dimitrius on August 18, 2013, 08:05:23 PM
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Post by: Chino on August 18, 2013, 08:35:20 PM
That was fast.
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Post by: TioJorge on August 18, 2013, 09:24:42 PM
Everything is gonna be fast from here on out. That was another beautiful episode despite the lack of utter jaw-dropping moments; still put the storyline on another line of crack and eyes forward. I love that they showed while Hank is smart, he really has all of jack shit to work on until he can coerce someone. Which is where the tiny WTF moment comes of the ending, foreshadowing that Jesse is there for one reason and one reason only: Hank. I think it's a bluff and that if Jesse gives him anything, it'll be a dead end due to Walt. We shall see, it'll be interesting if he does turn, and that'll be a disappointing turn in Jesse's character to me. I'd like to see Jesse stand on his own and become his own man without succumbing to the po-po he once abhored and swore to destroy.

I loved seeing Hank squirm after his big chest-beating episode last time; I was afraid the writers might make it a bit too easy for him, but once again they have toppled my expectations. This is no game of cat and mouse, it's a fucking Gundam Vs. Godzilla. I'm just along for the ride here on out and loving every moment. Good to see Bill.
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Post by: KevShmev on August 18, 2013, 11:54:57 PM
I love where this is going. :tup :tup
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Post by: cramx3 on August 19, 2013, 05:44:55 AM
That was a good episode. I loved how they brought up a lot of stuff from the past.
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Post by: jsem on August 19, 2013, 05:55:09 AM
That was awesome.
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Post by: Chino on August 19, 2013, 06:07:35 AM
Great episode last night. I'm really amazed Saul has gotten as deep as he has. Where was Walt Jr.?
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Post by: Dimitrius on August 19, 2013, 07:23:40 AM
Driving around with Louis or something. :lol

When Skyler went to the see Hank I kinda thought she wouldn't give him anything and would be on Walt's side, but what Marie did (even though it wasn't a wrong thing) was officially when Skyseinberg was born.
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Post by: Mebert78 on August 19, 2013, 08:48:48 AM
Good episode last night!  I haven't posted in this thread before, but I've watched the show since the pilot.  I'm addicted.  A couple things took me by surprise after watching last night.  The first is Todd!  On the outside, he seems kind of dumb.  But he's coordinating his own meth business now using the few skills that walt taught him.  After he and his uncle killed the people in the desert, the uncle says something like: "Alright guys, grab everything and load it into the truck."  Todd is the new cook.  He's a wannabe heisenberg.

Also, the red-headed guy.   He's kind of like a passing character, but he's really brilliant.  He's close enough to know a lot of details, but far away enough where you don't really think about him...  [Edit: Snipped the rest, because I apparently misheard a line of dialogue!]
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Post by: KevShmev on August 19, 2013, 08:56:16 AM
That's not what he said.  He said, "The guy hit 10 guys in a 2-minute window," which was his way of telling Huell, "If we steal this guy's money, he will find a way to kill us."  Granted, they obviously did take a little for themselves (note the looks they gave each other when Walt was loading all of the money into that van), but not enough to where Walt really noticed (or cared, given the panicked state he was in).

Also, I really hope they don't make Todd and his uncle and that crew too big of a part of the ending.  We, the viewers, aren't emotionally invested enough in any of those characters for them to play a major part in the ending, IMO.
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Post by: Mebert78 on August 19, 2013, 09:28:16 AM
You're right about the jail killings, Kev.  My other friend just pointed that out to me.  I must've misheard what was said.  I'm gonna snip my second paragraph above, lol.
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Post by: Marion Crane on August 19, 2013, 09:33:26 AM
I thought what Marie did was totally wrong, morally and legally.  I don't care what suspicions you have about your sister and her family, you can't just take someone else's kid, even if it is your niece.  Hank knew that, and that's why he told her to give her back.
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Post by: jsem on August 19, 2013, 09:35:15 AM
Urgh. Lydia is going to have a rough time btw. :lol
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Post by: Dimitrius on August 19, 2013, 09:37:06 AM
That's not what he said.  He said, "The guy hit 10 guys in a 2-minute window," which was his way of telling Huell, "If we steal this guy's money, he will find a way to kill us."  Granted, they obviously did take a little for themselves (note the looks they gave each other when Walt was loading all of the money into that van), but not enough to where Walt really noticed (or cared, given the panicked state he was in).
Yeah, didn't Walt even said something along the lines of "that's most of it anyway" before Huell and Kuby (I think that's his name) look at each other? Like Walt knowing they took some but not caring enough about it.
Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: Marion Crane on August 19, 2013, 09:40:25 AM
Yeah he said close enough
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Post by: Big Hath on August 19, 2013, 09:41:11 AM
I thought it was pretty funny that he left the lids off, so Walt could "make sure it is all there".  Like he would even be able to tell in those drums.
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on August 19, 2013, 09:56:08 AM
I thought what Marie did was totally wrong, morally and legally.  I don't care what suspicions you have about your sister and her family, you can't just take someone else's kid, even if it is your niece.  Hank knew that, and that's why he told her to give her back.
Yea but I do think it's easy for use viewers to figure out what's the right thing to do morally, legally when you discard actions based on emotion and fear. She instantly feared that the kids would be in danger having Walt around, she didn't take the kid because she feared her sister would do anything. She was just protective of her niece. That's atleast what I think.
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Post by: Marion Crane on August 19, 2013, 10:04:34 AM
Yeah I get that, but being a father of two babies I was like "Oh hell no!!" when she took the baby.  I don't care what the circumstances are....it wasn't her place. 
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on August 19, 2013, 11:56:58 AM
I think Todd's crew is going to be unhappy with Todd's product, being only 74% as opposed to Walt's high 90's. I think Lydia and company will try to convince Walt to get back in the business, and he won't want to because he already said he was out and in addition, he has Hank all over his ass. They won't like Walt's answer and kidnap Holly or something, to get him to cook for them.

I don't really know how New Hampshire and the other characters would fit into this, but it's an interesting theory.
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Post by: Dimitrius on August 19, 2013, 12:03:56 PM
Until the show proves otherwise, I'm gonna think that New Hampshire fits because Walt used Hatchie's Quick Vanish.
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on August 19, 2013, 12:05:10 PM
Until the show proves otherwise, I'm gonna think that New Hampshire fits because Walt used Hatchie's Quick Vanish.

Pretty much!
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Post by: KevShmev on August 19, 2013, 12:12:08 PM
The problem there is, does Walt now have access to any of his money?  Saul told him the quick vanish guy charged $125,000 per person, so even if Walt wants to bail by himself, does he have that kind of cash easily accessible if he needs it right on the spot?

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Post by: Dark Castle on August 19, 2013, 12:13:12 PM
The problem there is, does Walt now have access to any of his money?  Saul told him the quick vanish guy charged $125,000 per person, so even if Walt wants to bail by himself, does he have that kind of cash easily accessible if he needs it right on the spot?
I suspect that's where the money in the drums will come into play.
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Post by: Dimitrius on August 19, 2013, 12:15:36 PM
The problem there is, does Walt now have access to any of his money?  Saul told him the quick vanish guy charged $125,000 per person, so even if Walt wants to bail by himself, does he have that kind of cash easily accessible if he needs it right on the spot?
I suspect that's where the money in the drums will come into play.
Or maybe the money he left with Saul. Unless he left just enough to cover lawyer charges.
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Post by: KevShmev on August 19, 2013, 12:16:12 PM
Okay, but all of that money is now buried, right?

(http://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/vulture/2013/08/19/breaking%20bad/bb2.o.jpg/a_560x375.jpg)
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Post by: TVC 15 on August 19, 2013, 02:27:37 PM
I thought what Marie did was totally wrong, morally and legally.  I don't care what suspicions you have about your sister and her family, you can't just take someone else's kid, even if it is your niece.  Hank knew that, and that's why he told her to give her back.

It does seem fairly consistent with her kleptomanic tendencies.
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Post by: cramx3 on August 19, 2013, 04:01:28 PM
I thought what Marie did was totally wrong, morally and legally.  I don't care what suspicions you have about your sister and her family, you can't just take someone else's kid, even if it is your niece.  Hank knew that, and that's why he told her to give her back.

It does seem fairly consistent with her kleptomanic tendencies.

Thats exactly what I thought.  I was thinking to myself "well thats where the whole klepto episode may tie into whats going on now" since I thought that was a fairly dumb plot in the series.
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Post by: puppyonacid on August 20, 2013, 04:37:16 AM
This is just awesome. it's linked after the above trailer.

Breaking Bad Lego video game. I'd buy it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSUK4WgQ3vk
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Post by: Chino on August 20, 2013, 05:00:05 AM
This is just awesome. it's linked after the above trailer.

Breaking Bad Lego video game. I'd buy it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSUK4WgQ3vk

"Not available on this device" ... I'm on a fucking iPad. And who sets videos to non-mobile platforms only. Assholes.
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on August 20, 2013, 05:03:25 AM
Go to the desktop version on YT and it should work. You'll find it if you scroll down.
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Post by: KevShmev on August 26, 2013, 06:56:12 AM
Walt hit a new all-time low last night.

Jesse finally figured it out about Walt and the ricin and Brock.

That was positively awesome. :hefdaddy :hefdaddy

Speaking of Walt's new all-time low, who turns down table-side guacamole?? :lol :lol
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Post by: SomeoneLikeHim on August 26, 2013, 07:39:39 AM
 :omg:

How is this gonna last 5 episodes??
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Post by: Dimitrius on August 26, 2013, 08:06:05 AM
That confession brought me back to rooting for Walt! That was so evil-y genius!!
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Post by: SomeoneLikeHim on August 26, 2013, 09:43:25 AM
That confession brought me back to rooting for Walt! That was so evil-y genius!!
I loved it! I was smiling through the whole thing ;D
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Post by: TioJorge on August 26, 2013, 10:46:28 AM
For real, that was just incredible... The zoomed in shots of his eyes... Oh, boy. He really is the devil. I love it. Hail Satan.
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Post by: Dark Castle on August 26, 2013, 10:55:09 AM
Smoke Meth and Hail Satan
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Post by: TioJorge on August 26, 2013, 11:55:44 AM
No, just hail Watan.

P.S. I loved the way Jesse says "Mr. White...he's tha' DEVIL" in the preview. He kinda sounded like he put on an accent for some reason...maybe it's just me...but I pictured this guy  (http://oi38.tinypic.com/2yuaixu.jpg)saying it, for any Resident Evil fans who know what I'm talking about.
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Post by: KevShmev on August 26, 2013, 02:29:02 PM
The difference in one week regarding Hank was simple:

Last week, he worried that his career would come to an end the second he turned Walt in.

This week, he worried that his freedom would come to an end if he kept pursuing Walt. 

What are the chances the flash forwards are of Walt having been "disappeared" by Saul's guy and having framed Hank for his "death"?  Nah, that's too easy! :lol
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Post by: Dimitrius on August 26, 2013, 02:41:02 PM
It's Walt coming back and taking revenge on all the DEA in the name of Hank! :lol
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Post by: TioJorge on August 26, 2013, 02:43:10 PM
Right, that'd be far too simple. Shit is going to get real hairy, real quick. Not only is he going to have Hank going berserk after he gets his ducks in a line, but now Jesse is in berserker mode. Before, I couldn't see any way in hell that the two would team up... Now, I can't see a way that they won't team up. It's going to be an all-out war between Hank/Jesse vs Walt, I think. Either way, the shit just hit the fan. Just rewatched the episode and I think this is my favorite episode of the series. Every single fucking note was hit with a gong the size of THE UNIVERSE. Such incredible tension this entire episode. It's like watching a beautiful orchestra being conducted while two beautiful women make sweet, sweet love and then some maniac comes in and blows them up with a grenade.
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on August 26, 2013, 06:18:39 PM
Last night's episode was fucking incredible. 10/10
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Post by: orcus116 on August 26, 2013, 06:31:06 PM
I thought the confession video was going to be the "oh fuck" moment. The last 10 minutes I was on the edge of my seat. Who else thought that when Walt opened the door to the soda machine looking for the gun there would be a gun shot and Skylar would be dead ?
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Post by: KevShmev on August 26, 2013, 06:37:23 PM
Actually, when Walt hurriedly pulled up in his car, I didn't know if it was him or Jesse (I can't keep track of what Walt's new car looks like and Jesse had Saul's), so for a second, I was like, oh man, is Jesse gonna storm into the car wash waving the gun like a crazy person?
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Post by: orcus116 on August 26, 2013, 06:38:34 PM
That went through my mind as well. What a well executed segment.
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Post by: TioJorge on August 26, 2013, 09:09:34 PM
Yeah, at the moment the start of the scene with the frozen gun, it was pretty clear that they were setting up for something insane...I just couldn't predict it at all (and when we saw Jesse though...."WALT JR!?") and yeah, was literally holding onto my seat (I was actually cupping my balls at the time cause they itched so I just kind of grabbed on dude) and held my breath.  I was so hoping for a Walt/Jesse confrontation early and wham-bam like Hank but...surely that one will be the penultimate afs;dlfkaesrpoh-aifng;lakmgvasidhalsk. I fucking love this show so damn much. WHY YOU END!?
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on August 26, 2013, 09:11:33 PM
This show is so amazing. I really can't explain it.
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on August 27, 2013, 02:10:00 AM
That confession brought me back to rooting for Walt! That was so evil-y genius!!
Man, when Hank and Marie watched that I was trippin. That was so brutal.

Anyway here's a slightly tweaked version of that scene:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UUD3zyu7Ek
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Post by: Outcrier on August 27, 2013, 02:16:53 AM
Breaking Bad and Dexter ending  :'(
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Post by: Chino on August 27, 2013, 06:03:28 AM
Just watched the latest episode. Let me give you my one word review .... "Wow".
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Post by: MetalMike06 on August 28, 2013, 04:34:20 AM
That confession brought me back to rooting for Walt! That was so evil-y genius!!
Man, when Hank and Marie watched that I was trippin. That was so brutal.

Anyway here's a slightly tweaked version of that scene:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UUD3zyu7Ek

Haha nice. I found another:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mVq_4BA5DQ&feature=youtu.be
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Post by: jsem on August 28, 2013, 05:23:23 AM
:rollin

The confession scene was immense though.
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Post by: KevShmev on September 02, 2013, 08:14:47 AM
No chatter on last night's episode??

Personally, I thought it was great.  I loved how they made us wait half the episode to see how last week's cliffhanger was truly resolved (since the episode began with us having no idea where Jesse had gone or why he had not torched the house).  What is Jesse's better way for them to get Walt?  Will Walt finally "put down" the rabid dog that is Jesse?  Will Flynn find himself some good pancakes at that hotel?
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Post by: SomeoneLikeHim on September 02, 2013, 08:45:30 AM
Amazing episode like always!
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 02, 2013, 09:01:43 AM
This is getting tense! (as if it wasn't tense enough!)
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Post by: Dimitrius on September 02, 2013, 10:08:41 AM
Good episode! Very interested in this Hank/Jesse teamup though I doubt it will end fruitfully.
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Post by: jsem on September 02, 2013, 12:17:15 PM
Hnnnnnng. Love this show so much.
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Post by: TioJorge on September 02, 2013, 03:14:48 PM
A little slower, a little bit of filler, but I have a feeling this is going to clash nicely. Clearly we know none of this goes well, and I doubt even Todd's uncle has any significant impact. They may have given too much away with that initial year-long timeskip with Walt and the machine-gun, alias, along with going back to the boarded-up house. Clearly that whole 'burning-down' scene was meant to evoke us thinking of that... Bit of a cop-out; still wondering what the house is about and perhaps this right here is where they never go back...though I can't imagine they'd live in a hotel for a year +...but maybe so, they certainly have the money.

Overall, this is my least favorite episode of the season so far, but it set up some nice plotlines that will hopefully keep the end-game sprint after this breather. Still a great, tense, episode, but I feel like they did too many fake-outs. Good episode for atmosphere, not so great for ultimate story developments. They could have set up a Walt vs. Jesse match-up in the beginning ten minutes, which is all that really happened, and in an odd way too (Jesse's paranoia getting the best of him). Clearly Walt really did want to talk, and this was the push over the edge. I feel like Jesse meant to do this and is not actually going to attempt to kill him, but it was set-up in a way that...he might end up screwing himself over like he always does and start a fire that he can't put out.  :lol Either way  :corn  :metal HAJIME!
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Post by: KevShmev on September 03, 2013, 09:39:18 AM
I doubt even Todd's uncle has any significant impact.

Unless Walt pays them for the hit on Jesse, and some of Walt's family gets taken out in the process.  Remember that Walt has no idea that Jesse has flipped and is staying with Hank and Marie, so what if Todd's uncle's crew tries to take down Jesse at Hank and Marie's, and Marie for example gets killed in the hit attempt?  It would make sense, given that Marie insisted on staying at the house instead of leaving, like Hank wanted her to do.  And how she insisted that their house was much safer for Flynn and Holly.  Hmmmmm...  Wouldn't that be cruel irony?  If some of Walt's family gets taken out by a hit on Jesse put out by Walt?
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Post by: Chino on September 03, 2013, 10:46:27 AM
At this point, I am expecting something devastating. What that will be.... I have not a clue. The thing I really want to see more than anything is Walt Jr. finding out what his parents have been doing this whole time.

The more the show goes on, the more I am convinced Jesse is going to die as a result of a mistake made by Walt (something we almost never see). I know both Saul and Hank have said it, but I think they are right about Hank genuinely caring for Jesse. Going all the way back to the episode when Hank was talking to Jesse's mother on the porch. When talking about Walt as Jesse's teacher, she said something along the lines of "Walter must have seen some potential in Jesse. He really tried to motivate him, he was one of the few teachers who cared."

Side bar.

How did Jesse find out Walter poisoned Brock? I think I missed something.
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 03, 2013, 11:33:39 AM
I doubt even Todd's uncle has any significant impact.

Unless Walt pays them for the hit on Jesse, and some of Walt's family gets taken out in the process.  Remember that Walt has no idea that Jesse has flipped and is staying with Hank and Marie, so what if Todd's uncle's crew tries to take down Jesse at Hank and Marie's, and Marie for example gets killed in the hit attempt?  It would make sense, given that Marie insisted on staying at the house instead of leaving, like Hank wanted her to do.  And how she insisted that their house was much safer for Flynn and Holly.  Hmmmmm...  Wouldn't that be cruel irony?  If some of Walt's family gets taken out by a hit on Jesse put out by Walt?

Wow, that makes a lot of sense
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Post by: Chino on September 03, 2013, 11:35:43 AM
I doubt even Todd's uncle has any significant impact.

Unless Walt pays them for the hit on Jesse, and some of Walt's family gets taken out in the process.  Remember that Walt has no idea that Jesse has flipped and is staying with Hank and Marie, so what if Todd's uncle's crew tries to take down Jesse at Hank and Marie's, and Marie for example gets killed in the hit attempt?  It would make sense, given that Marie insisted on staying at the house instead of leaving, like Hank wanted her to do.  And how she insisted that their house was much safer for Flynn and Holly.  Hmmmmm...  Wouldn't that be cruel irony?  If some of Walt's family gets taken out by a hit on Jesse put out by Walt?

Wouldn't it be a hell of a twist if the show is making us think Walt is calling in a hit on Jesse, but in reality has figured out that Jesse is at Hank's and that Hank is actually the target?
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 03, 2013, 11:36:18 AM
I doubt even Todd's uncle has any significant impact.

Unless Walt pays them for the hit on Jesse, and some of Walt's family gets taken out in the process.  Remember that Walt has no idea that Jesse has flipped and is staying with Hank and Marie, so what if Todd's uncle's crew tries to take down Jesse at Hank and Marie's, and Marie for example gets killed in the hit attempt?  It would make sense, given that Marie insisted on staying at the house instead of leaving, like Hank wanted her to do.  And how she insisted that their house was much safer for Flynn and Holly.  Hmmmmm...  Wouldn't that be cruel irony?  If some of Walt's family gets taken out by a hit on Jesse put out by Walt?

Wouldn't it be a hell of a twist if the show is making us think Walt is calling in a hit on Jesse, but in reality has figured out that Jesse is at Hank's and that Hank is actually the target?

Fuck! :justjen
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Post by: KevShmev on September 03, 2013, 11:37:03 AM


How did Jesse find out Walter poisoned Brock? I think I missed something.

When he realized that Huell had lifted the weed from him, he remembered about how the ricin cigarette had also been lifted from him, and he put two and two together. 

I doubt even Todd's uncle has any significant impact.

Unless Walt pays them for the hit on Jesse, and some of Walt's family gets taken out in the process.  Remember that Walt has no idea that Jesse has flipped and is staying with Hank and Marie, so what if Todd's uncle's crew tries to take down Jesse at Hank and Marie's, and Marie for example gets killed in the hit attempt?  It would make sense, given that Marie insisted on staying at the house instead of leaving, like Hank wanted her to do.  And how she insisted that their house was much safer for Flynn and Holly.  Hmmmmm...  Wouldn't that be cruel irony?  If some of Walt's family gets taken out by a hit on Jesse put out by Walt?

Wow, that makes a lot of sense

It does, which means the writers will come up with some completely different and 100 times more awesome. :lol
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 03, 2013, 11:37:48 AM
Yeah, they are very good about doing the unexpected!
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Post by: KevShmev on September 03, 2013, 11:39:17 AM


Wouldn't it be a hell of a twist if the show is making us think Walt is calling in a hit on Jesse, but in reality has figured out that Jesse is at Hank's and that Hank is actually the target?

And that Gomez is actually a mole on the inside.  Now THAT would be nuts.
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Post by: Chino on September 03, 2013, 11:43:04 AM


How did Jesse find out Walter poisoned Brock? I think I missed something.

When he realized that Huell had lifted the weed from him, he remembered about how the ricin cigarette had also been lifted from him, and he put two and two together. 


That's what I figured, I just wasn't sure if there was more to it. So did Jesse get the ricin back?

Also, while on the topic of Jesse. He's my favorite character. He reminds me of a few people I associate with on occasion (victims of circumstance). You can tell that the guy has a great heart, and isn't nearly as stupid as he's been portrayed to be at times. Now that he has diverged from what he was when we met him as "The Captain", you can see who he really is. His childhood was obviously incredibly fucked up. To be where he is in life while at the same time have tons of sympathy for children makes that obvious. I hope before the show is through, we get a glimpse into that back story.
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Post by: Chino on September 03, 2013, 11:45:40 AM


Wouldn't it be a hell of a twist if the show is making us think Walt is calling in a hit on Jesse, but in reality has figured out that Jesse is at Hank's and that Hank is actually the target?

And that Gomez is actually a mole on the inside.  Now THAT would be nuts.

I feel like we are going to see something with him. He's been on the show since the very beginning and hasn't really contributed to anything. Why keep him around this long? He's the only other member of the DEA that we've really been exposed to, he's been in plenty of scenes, but he hasn't had anything more than a dull moment. I personally hate every time he comes on. He makes all the DEA scenes feel like those cheesy detective crime shows my mother constantly watches.


Also, another thing that crossed my mind after this episode...

In the first two seasons, Hank was pretty brutal in terms of stuff that would come out of his mouth. Let's be real, he came off as a racist piece of shit initially. After he was shot and laid up, that side of him kind of died down.... until this episode. You see how cold-hearted he still is.
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Post by: KevShmev on September 03, 2013, 11:46:20 AM
There won't be enough time for that back story.  His fractured relationship with his parents and the soft spot he has shown for kids (his younger brother, Brock, that kid in Peak-A-Boo) was as much as we will probably get.

As for the ricin cigarette, no, I believe Walt got it back from Saul and that is the one he put behind the wall plug socket (that he retrieved in the flash forward).
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Post by: Chino on September 03, 2013, 11:48:40 AM
There won't be enough time for that back story.  His fractured relationship with his parents and the soft spot he has shown for kids (his younger brother, Brock, that kid in Peak-A-Boo) was as much as we will probably get.


That's not enough for me though  :lol. His parents actually don't seem like they were dad people. They don't appear to have been alcoholics or druggies themselves. I'm really curious as to why Jesse is the way he is.
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Post by: KevShmev on September 03, 2013, 11:51:53 AM
Yeah, they toned down the offensive slurs Hank used early on, but I am not sure I would call him cold-hearted.  I think the betrayal he is feeling has given him total tunnel vision and he can't see anything in front of him but nailing Walt.  I read a review that summed it well: while Jesse is like that rabid dog that needs to be put down, Hank is like a pit bull, teeth exposed and ready to attack.  And that will be his downfall. 
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Post by: reneranucci on September 03, 2013, 11:52:22 AM
I know both Saul and Hank have said it, but I think they are right about Hank genuinely caring for Jesse. Going all the way back to the episode when Hank was talking to Jesse's mother on the porch. When talking about Walt as Jesse's teacher, she said something along the lines of "Walter must have seen some potential in Jesse. He really tried to motivate him, he was one of the few teachers who cared."
When Gomez expressed his concerns for Jesse falling into Walt´s trap, Hank says "What? That junkie murderer? If it´s a trap, he gets killed and we´ll haver everything on tape". I don´t think he cares about Jesse at all  :)
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Post by: KevShmev on September 03, 2013, 11:53:58 AM
I know both Saul and Hank have said it, but I think they are right about Hank genuinely caring for Jesse. Going all the way back to the episode when Hank was talking to Jesse's mother on the porch. When talking about Walt as Jesse's teacher, she said something along the lines of "Walter must have seen some potential in Jesse. He really tried to motivate him, he was one of the few teachers who cared."
When Gomez expressed his concerns for Jesse falling into Walt´s trap, Hank says "What? That junkie murderer? If it´s a trap, he gets killed and we´ll haver everything on tape". I don´t think he cares about Jesse at all  :)

And why should he?  Even Jesse might come off as the tortured guy and the lesser of two evils, he is still a really bad guy, and in Hank's eyes, if one piece of shit has to die in order to nail the bigger piece of shit to the wall, then so be it.  I can't blame him for feeling that way, considering everything the two have put Hank through.
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Post by: reneranucci on September 03, 2013, 12:03:15 PM
I´m curious about Jesse´s plan. He said that he figured out a "better way" to nail Mr. White (I love how he always calls him Mr. White). He seemed very confident, like he knew that Walt wouldn't´t resist falling into his trap. I think one option is that they will make Walt come after him and set everything up to catch Walt. An alternative plan is that they will show their cards and reveal that Jesse has been working with Hank and that they have everything ready to arrest him. Either way, they think Walt will try something desperate.

I don´t know exactly why they said they don't have enough evidence to pursue Walt. Finding Leave of Grass allowed Hank to put everything together, and he said "so many things make sense to me now". They could use the equipment that was stolen from Walt's school,  the book, the description of Heisenberg that they have, call records and Jesse's testimony to make a case.

I was also curious about what Jesse revealed to the DEA. Apparently he told them everything because now they know about Lydia and Vamonos! Pest.

A very significant detail is that in the future scenes, Walt appears alone. He's back to New Mexico for revenge, and I think his revenge is against Jesse. Probably Walt's family is destroyed and he blames Jesse for that. I don't think he could come after Hank for vengeance.
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Post by: reneranucci on September 03, 2013, 12:04:09 PM
I know both Saul and Hank have said it, but I think they are right about Hank genuinely caring for Jesse. Going all the way back to the episode when Hank was talking to Jesse's mother on the porch. When talking about Walt as Jesse's teacher, she said something along the lines of "Walter must have seen some potential in Jesse. He really tried to motivate him, he was one of the few teachers who cared."
When Gomez expressed his concerns for Jesse falling into Walt´s trap, Hank says "What? That junkie murderer? If it´s a trap, he gets killed and we´ll haver everything on tape". I don´t think he cares about Jesse at all  :)

And why should he?  Even Jesse might come off as the tortured guy and the lesser of two evils, he is still a really bad guy, and in Hank's eyes, if one piece of shit has to die in order to nail the bigger piece of shit to the wall, then so be it.  I can't blame him for feeling that way, considering everything the two have put Hank through.
Maybe you meant "Walt caring for Jesse" instead of "Hank caring for Jesse"?
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Post by: KevShmev on September 03, 2013, 12:08:09 PM
I don't think Jesse's "better way" is necessarily a way that will land Walt in jail.  I think his way will be to disgrace him publicly.  Walt's ego is massive, and Jesse knows this, so exposing him and destroying the Walter White "good guy" public persona is a surefire way to bring Walt to his knees.  Given that their house is later abandoned and Heisenberg is written on a wall inside, it seems certain that he will be publicly exposed.

Not only is Walt alone in the flash fowards, but his body language is of someone who looks defeated.  It makes me think his family is either dead or long gone from his life.
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Post by: reneranucci on September 03, 2013, 12:15:33 PM
I don't think Jesse's "better way" is necessarily a way that will land Walt in jail.  I think his way will be to disgrace him publicly.  Walt's ego is massive, and Jesse knows this, so exposing him and destroying the Walter White "good guy" public persona is a surefire way to bring Walt to his knees.  Given that their house is later abandoned and Heisenberg is written on a wall inside, it seems certain that he will be publicly exposed.
That makes sense.

Not only is Walt alone in the flash fowards, but his body language is of someone who looks defeated.  It makes me think his family is either dead or long gone from his life.
I would say even Junior would abandon him after figuring out what he really is.

The gun he purchases on that first episode is a big rifle, I was wondering about why he needed such a big gun. If he wants to kill Jesse, a pistol could be enough. And he also picks up the ricin from his home. Maybe he's into something bigger. 
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Post by: TioJorge on September 03, 2013, 12:51:19 PM
I think you're spot-on, Kev. Jesse is going to pretend to go after his life; he's not going to actually go through with it. He's just beat his chest, puffed it out, and is going to let Walt walk right into a trap. He's going to be the cornered rat that has another escape route and scurry on out...or attempt to. As Vince Gilligan said, Saul is the cockroach...he will always live to see another trashy day. The rats...rats die after a long battle. Walt is...um...a...he's a vulture. He's just gonna flat out attempt to swoop in on the carrion and fuck it all up.
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Post by: Chino on September 03, 2013, 02:00:03 PM
I know both Saul and Hank have said it, but I think they are right about Hank genuinely caring for Jesse. Going all the way back to the episode when Hank was talking to Jesse's mother on the porch. When talking about Walt as Jesse's teacher, she said something along the lines of "Walter must have seen some potential in Jesse. He really tried to motivate him, he was one of the few teachers who cared."
When Gomez expressed his concerns for Jesse falling into Walt´s trap, Hank says "What? That junkie murderer? If it´s a trap, he gets killed and we´ll haver everything on tape". I don´t think he cares about Jesse at all  :)

And why should he?  Even Jesse might come off as the tortured guy and the lesser of two evils, he is still a really bad guy, and in Hank's eyes, if one piece of shit has to die in order to nail the bigger piece of shit to the wall, then so be it.  I can't blame him for feeling that way, considering everything the two have put Hank through.
Maybe you meant "Walt caring for Jesse" instead of "Hank caring for Jesse"?

 :rollin

Yeah... my bad. I meant Walt.
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Post by: Chino on September 04, 2013, 05:38:33 AM
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 04, 2013, 01:09:22 PM
 :lol
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Post by: SomeoneLikeHim on September 04, 2013, 01:44:38 PM
 :rollin
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on September 04, 2013, 03:26:35 PM
I can't be the only one unintentionally reading "Mr White is Santa" in Jesses voice?  :lol
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Post by: The Trooper on September 04, 2013, 07:11:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyw62dw5w6g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyw62dw5w6g)  :mehlin :mehlin
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Post by: Chino on September 04, 2013, 07:35:51 PM
Fuck!
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Post by: Dark Castle on September 08, 2013, 08:00:45 PM
Ho
Ly
Fuck
Ing
Shit
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Post by: KevShmev on September 08, 2013, 08:04:37 PM
Woah.
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 08, 2013, 08:06:52 PM
Fucking Vince Gilligan!!!!
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Post by: Chino on September 08, 2013, 08:07:37 PM
I'm sorry, but that episode was fucking awful.
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 08, 2013, 08:08:47 PM
Totally
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Post by: axeman90210 on September 08, 2013, 08:12:56 PM
I'm seriously considering taking a Cartman approach and trying to freeze myself until next Sunday, because fuck if I can wait a week to see the next episode.
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Post by: TioJorge on September 08, 2013, 08:21:33 PM
lol opinions
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Post by: Dr. DTVT on September 08, 2013, 08:44:22 PM
I'm seriously considering taking a Cartman approach and trying to freeze myself until next Sunday, because fuck if I can wait a week to see the next episode.

Yeah, but what do we do when there are no more episodes left?

I vote Jonestown ritual mass suicide.  Who's with me?
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Post by: soundgarden on September 08, 2013, 10:48:06 PM
Well F that episode; nearly had a heart attack when I saw the credits come on....

Jesus; I still have no solid idea how this might gonna play out...
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Post by: KevShmev on September 08, 2013, 11:07:36 PM
Hank and Gomez die. Probably a member or two of Jack's crew.  Not sure about Jesse.

Walt, wrecked with guilt, uses Saul's money to disappear without his family.  And why without the family?  Because not only will Marie blame Walt for Hank's death, especially since she got the phone call saying Walt was under arrest, but Skyler will, too.  Walt knows that Skyler sees right through his lies now, and there is no way he would be able to convince her that he wasn't directly responsible for his death.  He disappears in shame.

But does he take the buried money with him?  I guess we have to assume he gets his hand on it if he is able to disappear, since Saul said it costs 125K per person to disappear, but does he take it with him?  Does he somehow get it to the family?  Maybe Skyler and everyone thinks he died along with Hank?  So many possibilities.
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Post by: Dimitrius on September 09, 2013, 12:12:24 AM
Hank said bad words for his survival from this shootout. "I got him, I'm gonna be a while, I love you"... goddamn it!
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Post by: Chino on September 09, 2013, 05:57:24 AM
Hank is going to die. The gun in Walt's trunk is going to be pointing at Tod and crew for revenge.
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Post by: XJDenton on September 09, 2013, 06:21:54 AM
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.
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Post by: zepp-head on September 09, 2013, 07:00:08 AM
I agree that Gomez hasn't done anything important all throughout the show.  For that reason his death probably won't be very impactful since you could swap out any DEA officer and it would make little difference outside of Gomez' familiar face. 

A couple people seemed out of character here: Huell for caving in so fast, and Walt for admitting to so many specific crimes over the phone.

That said, intense ending.  When the episodes end like that, I wonder how there are only three episodes left, then I remember that almost nothing happened during the first 40 minutes of this one.

Can't wait for next week.
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Post by: Chino on September 09, 2013, 07:30:40 AM


A couple people seemed out of character here: Huell for caving in so fast, and Walt for admitting to so many specific crimes over the phone.

I remember that almost nothing happened during the first 40 minutes of this one.



It was a bullshit filler/rushed episode. I rank it as he worst BB episode to date.
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Post by: Dimitrius on September 09, 2013, 08:44:00 AM
People do weird things under duress.

And I agree that if Hank doesn't live the shootout (which is likely IMO) the M60 in the flashforwards is for Todd and company.
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on September 09, 2013, 08:48:15 AM
And I agree that if Hank doesn't live the shootout (which is likely IMO) the M60 in the flashforwards is for Todd and company.
Yes that sounds likely actually. It will definitely be a gun blazin three last episodes.
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Post by: KevShmev on September 09, 2013, 08:50:00 AM
Walt's admissions on the phone were totally realistic, as he was panicking thinking that Jesse was gonna burn all of his money. 
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Post by: Dimitrius on September 09, 2013, 08:58:21 AM
Walt's admissions on the phone were totally realistic, as he was panicking thinking that Jesse was gonna burn all of his money. 
Same thing with Huell. As I said, people do weird things under duress.
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Post by: Dimitrius on September 09, 2013, 09:04:12 AM
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Post by: Bolsters on September 09, 2013, 09:05:21 AM
Walt's admissions on the phone were totally realistic, as he was panicking thinking that Jesse was gonna burn all of his money.
It sounded pretty forced to me, like he just all of a sudden blurted out the majority of the terrible things he's done. I'd speculate it was convenient too, because I'm guessing that phone call would be recorded.
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Post by: Dark Castle on September 09, 2013, 09:10:05 AM
Walt's admissions on the phone were totally realistic, as he was panicking thinking that Jesse was gonna burn all of his money.
It sounded pretty forced to me, like he just all of a sudden blurted out the majority of the terrible things he's done. I'd speculate it was convenient too, because I'm guessing that phone call would be recorded.
I don't think he ever expected Jesse to be working with Hank though.
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Post by: Chino on September 09, 2013, 09:12:16 AM
Walt's admissions on the phone were totally realistic, as he was panicking thinking that Jesse was gonna burn all of his money.
It sounded pretty forced to me, like he just all of a sudden blurted out the majority of the terrible things he's done. I'd speculate it was convenient too, because I'm guessing that phone call would be recorded.
I don't think he ever expected Jesse to be working with Hank though.

Yeah. That may have been a last ditch effort to emphasize to Jesse that he truly cares about him and needs him to trust him.
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Post by: Chino on September 09, 2013, 11:46:27 AM
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 09, 2013, 11:48:37 AM
Do you know who you're talking to? I'm the one who eats.
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Post by: El Barto on September 09, 2013, 01:46:44 PM
I'm going to great lengths to avoid spoilers, so I'd rather not google this. Would somebody mind telling me how many episodes into the last season we are, of how many total, and when the last is scheduled to run? Ideally, I'm looking to watch the last season the week the last episode airs so I can see the finale in realtime.
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Post by: KevShmev on September 09, 2013, 01:51:31 PM
5 of 8 have aired thus far. The final 3 will be on the next three Sundays, the finale being on September 29th.
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Post by: El Barto on September 09, 2013, 01:55:45 PM
5 of 8 have aired thus far. The final 3 will be on the next three Sundays, the finale being on September 29th.
Much obliged.  :tup
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Post by: KevShmev on September 09, 2013, 02:10:23 PM
No problemo, sir. :tup :tup
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Post by: GuineaPig on September 09, 2013, 02:37:16 PM
These last two episodes have only been so-so.  Supposedly the next episode is great, though.
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Post by: Dark Castle on September 09, 2013, 02:38:55 PM
These last two episodes have only been so-so.  Supposedly the next episode is great, though.
So if I thought these past two were great, then the next one should cause multiple orgasms?
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Post by: SomeoneLikeHim on September 09, 2013, 02:59:05 PM
I thought this last one was great, I couldn't sit still!
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Post by: The Trooper on September 09, 2013, 03:10:37 PM
I liked the last episode. The next episode should start off nuts given the way this last one....ended.
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Post by: reneranucci on September 09, 2013, 05:06:44 PM
Walt's admissions on the phone were totally realistic, as he was panicking thinking that Jesse was gonna burn all of his money.
No no no no no. It was the weakest spot on the series so far. "Yeah, I knew exactly how much poison to give to Brock". "I needed you on my side to kill Gus". "I ran over those gangbangers". It's stupid, Jesse is not even asking him anything, and he keeps running his mouth. "I killed Krazy-8 and Emilio for you, Jesse". Why going so far back? That moment is so un-Walter.

And yes, Walter is greedy, but I don't buy he would panic and start running his mouth in that situation. He's very careful. The only times we've seem him completely losing it was when his family was in real danger (when Gus threatens them, for example), but never with money-related issues. He accepted to contribute his share to Mike's people in prison, to give some money back to Jesse, and he knows he can make a lot of money if he goes back to business. The portrait of a Walter White giving away all his secrets on a phone because of money is very unrealistic, IMO. He likes money, but not so much as this episode pretended he does.
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Post by: TVC 15 on September 09, 2013, 05:16:43 PM
Walter wasn't that panicky about money before the way he is now is because of the change in his medical condition. That money was definitely important again for his family to live on with the thought that he wasn't going to survive this round of cancer.
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Post by: Chino on September 09, 2013, 05:18:40 PM
Yeah, I kind of think that was the moment, where for the first time, Walt thought he had failed and that everything he did was for nothing. That was his last ditch effort to save all that he had worked for.
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 09, 2013, 05:19:22 PM
I agree that it was very realistic. Walt started all this because he wanted money, that was the only reason. He got an ego, but with that ego, he wanted more and more money. He truly cares about his family, and he has been working for this money, it would ruin his fucking life if Jesse decided to burn it all. So with that said, I think he was confessing to Jesse simply to get him to stop and understand that Walt was doing it for his best interest. I think it's very believable.


I know people have opinions, but I honestly don't see how this episode isn't great!
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Post by: Outcrier on September 09, 2013, 05:20:38 PM
Walter wasn't that panicky about money before the way he is now is because of the change in his medical condition. That money was definitely important again for his family to live on with the thought that he wasn't going to survive this round of cancer.
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Post by: reneranucci on September 09, 2013, 05:21:20 PM
Walter wasn't that panicky about money before the way he is now is because of the change in his medical condition. That money was definitely important again for his family to live on with the thought that he wasn't going to survive this round of cancer.
I thought about that, but again, he could have done a last and desperate 2-day cooking marathon and guarantee enough money for his family. One call to Lydia and he's rich again.

And even if he panicked, why going into so much detail about what he's done? what about "remember all the people I've protected you from", or something like that? Hearing him say "Krazy-8, bro" made me cringe  :lol

What I'm calling unrealistic is him giving a complete account of all his crimes over a phone call, in chronological order. Even if he panicked, he was never so careless in the whole show
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Post by: reneranucci on September 09, 2013, 05:26:59 PM
I know people have opinions, but I honestly don't see how this episode isn't great!
I enjoyed the episode. It was only that moment that seemed weak, and that could have been handled so much better. For example, just saying "I've murdered a lot of people to protect you, Jesse" could have been enough evidence, after he confessed the money was his. But it's the detailed, explicit way in which he confesses his crimes what seems ridiculous to me. It's so artificial.
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Post by: Chino on September 09, 2013, 05:28:49 PM

I know people have opinions, but I honestly don't see how this episode isn't great!

The last 15 minutes or so were great.
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Post by: KevShmev on September 09, 2013, 05:32:49 PM

I know people have opinions, but I honestly don't see how this episode isn't great!

Agreed.  But this show has set the bar so high that even really good episodes like this one get dismissed by some as being not very good.  Every episode cannot be as awesome as Face Off, One Minute, Half Measures or Crawl Space.
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 09, 2013, 06:24:00 PM

I know people have opinions, but I honestly don't see how this episode isn't great!

Agreed.  But this show has set the bar so high that even really good episodes like this one get dismissed by some as being not very good.  Every episode cannot be as awesome as Face Off, One Minute, Half Measures or Crawl Space.

True. However I thought this was an outstanding episode. I think my least favorite episode of Breaking Bad is like...Grey Matter or something :lol
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Post by: KevShmev on September 09, 2013, 06:27:09 PM
Gray Matter had the talking pillow!! :lol :lol

For me, Fly has easily been the least best episode. 
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Post by: orcus116 on September 09, 2013, 06:28:27 PM
Fly is an amazing episode.
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 09, 2013, 06:29:41 PM
Fly has got to be the most controversial episode. I've seen people say it's one of the best, but I've seen people say it's the worst. It's really good, I think. Not one of my top favorites, but it's definitely not a least favorite.
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Post by: TioJorge on September 09, 2013, 06:35:25 PM
I really enjoyed it. It really irks me when people compare to past episodes so much that the 'bar' is immovable. I know, I know...comparisons will be made, that much is inevitable. But when you compare so much that an amazing episode such as this one is diminished because of it, it's kind of ridiculous. Yeah, opinions and assholes. Whatevs toats dood. I myself thought this episode was wonderful. Not the best, but it was incredibly tense, moved the story forward a good few paces and gave us some details into how the road is paved to that year-long time-skip we saw at the beginning of both the original start of the season as well as the second part of S5 (P.S. FUCK ZUNE MARKETPLACE for calling this 'Season 6' and making me pay full price again).

The ending was spectacular, but the rest of the episode was still very enjoyable. Also...a big fat 'WUT' to anyone who is surprised that Hule ratted.... Have you seen this fuckin' guy at all? He is a total moron. An almost useless, bumbling, drooling idiot. They could have showed a ten-year-old's drawing of Jesse with a bunch of scribbled red marker all over his head and he'd freak out just as much. That was NOT a stretch by any means. C'mon now...it's Hule, not Gus. Not that I'm arguing with anyone's opinion here, this is in reference to my friends whom I watched it with. Everyone will have their own jaded opinion. I'm really looking forward to how they surprise us with the ending to this showdown.
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 09, 2013, 06:41:14 PM
If I had to rank the seasons, even if 5 isn't done yet, I'd already say I like it better than 4.

5
4
3
2
1

I seriously think each season outdoes its former.
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Post by: TioJorge on September 09, 2013, 06:43:50 PM
I agree. I really like the vibe they've set this season. Each season really seems to have it's own flavor and attitude to it, and this one reeks of utter destruction and melancholy. I love it. S4 was ripe with a foreboding sense of death that never came, and this one...you just have to know...it's coming. It's coming right in your face and there's nothing you can do.
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Post by: KevShmev on September 09, 2013, 06:53:11 PM
Fly was highly enjoyable, for sure.  I just think it was the least interesting and probably has the least replay value of any of the episodes to date.
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 09, 2013, 06:54:55 PM
That being said, I don't think there's been a bad episode in this show. That could just be the fanboy in me though.
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Post by: Dr. DTVT on September 09, 2013, 07:08:11 PM
People do weird things under duress.

And I agree that if Hank doesn't live the shootout (which is likely IMO) the M60 in the flashforwards is for Todd and company.

I don't think that it is for Todd and them just because it is too obvious, and that has not been a hallmark of the show.
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Post by: The Trooper on September 09, 2013, 07:21:19 PM
People do weird things under duress.

And I agree that if Hank doesn't live the shootout (which is likely IMO) the M60 in the flashforwards is for Todd and company.

I don't think that it is for Todd and them just because it is too obvious, and that has not been a hallmark of the show.
  I 100% agree.
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Post by: Scard on September 09, 2013, 07:46:05 PM
So I met Todd today in Toronto. He's, uhm, the exact same as on the show.
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Post by: The Trooper on September 09, 2013, 07:51:54 PM
So I met Todd today in Toronto. He's, uhm, the exact same as on the show.
  He use to be on the tv show Friday Night Lights.
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Post by: Chino on September 09, 2013, 07:54:20 PM
So I met Todd today in Toronto. He's, uhm, the exact same as on the show.
  He use to be on the tv show Friday Night Lights.

He was also the douche bag orphan in Like Mike.
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Post by: KevShmev on September 09, 2013, 07:58:32 PM
He also looks a lot like Matt Damon.

Also, how funny was it watching him try to flirt with Lydia last night in the cold opening?
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 09, 2013, 08:00:29 PM
Matt Damon with Down syndrome.


It made me laugh when I first heard that but I feel terrible.
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Post by: TioJorge on September 09, 2013, 08:05:37 PM
Yeah that was really fucking creepy when he was hitting on Lydia... I thought he was up to something more than just hitting on her... He really is the creepiest motherfucker around. I first saw him in Shrink (which is a really enjoyable movie) as an innocent, naive little weed dealer. This was a great turn for him but god damn would I love to see him die a tortuous, horrible death. I really hope we get to see that, because clearly they've been attempting to make him the most detestable character in television and succeeding thus far.
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Post by: reneranucci on September 09, 2013, 09:26:39 PM
Gray Matter had the talking pillow!! :lol :lol

For me, Fly has easily been the least best episode.
Agreed! Fly is the episode with the least replay valugrae.

What I love about seasons 1-2 is the kind of dark/innocent humor that later seasons lack, as the show got more serious, dark and violent. Scenes like Walt furiously grabbing the talking pillow, Jesse and Walt carrying the barrel, or Hank saying "New Mexico has a new kingpin" and the shot going to an overweight Walt brushing his teeth, are missing in later seasons. It's part of the overall evolution of the show.
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Post by: The King in Crimson on September 09, 2013, 10:43:21 PM
Fly is a lot, a lot better on a second viewing. The direction, the writing and Cranston all own that episode. It's a really unique episode in the show, so I can see why it gets such a mixed reception from fans, but I like it a lot.

Season rankings (so far):
3
2
4
1
5

Edit: Listed 2 twice. Dunno why, but fixed.  :lol
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Post by: GuineaPig on September 10, 2013, 01:50:31 AM
I've watched "Fly" more than any other Breaking Bad episode, and I'm not sure it's even close.
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Post by: zepp-head on September 10, 2013, 07:14:38 AM
I really enjoyed it. It really irks me when people compare to past episodes so much that the 'bar' is immovable. I know, I know...comparisons will be made, that much is inevitable. But when you compare so much that an amazing episode such as this one is diminished because of it, it's kind of ridiculous. Yeah, opinions and assholes. Whatevs toats dood. I myself thought this episode was wonderful. Not the best, but it was incredibly tense, moved the story forward a good few paces and gave us some details into how the road is paved to that year-long time-skip we saw at the beginning of both the original start of the season as well as the second part of S5 (P.S. FUCK ZUNE MARKETPLACE for calling this 'Season 6' and making me pay full price again).

The ending was spectacular, but the rest of the episode was still very enjoyable. Also...a big fat 'WUT' to anyone who is surprised that Hule ratted.... Have you seen this fuckin' guy at all? He is a total moron. An almost useless, bumbling, drooling idiot. They could have showed a ten-year-old's drawing of Jesse with a bunch of scribbled red marker all over his head and he'd freak out just as much. That was NOT a stretch by any means. C'mon now...it's Hule, not Gus. Not that I'm arguing with anyone's opinion here, this is in reference to my friends whom I watched it with. Everyone will have their own jaded opinion. I'm really looking forward to how they surprise us with the ending to this showdown.

It's not really that he ratted at all, more that he instantly caved in like a mineshaft.  Apparently the theme of the episode was "convincing people of lies using poor fake cell phone pictures".  I understand Huell is dumb, but he's supposed to at least be good at what he does, and that picture didn't even have a bullet hole in it, did it?

I'll admit I took the bait the second they showed the barrel photo too, but Walt is supposed to be a lot smarter than me.  :lol  Hank made the comment about how it wouldn't matter that the dirt didn't match, but I would be more concerned by the fact that the photo only showed one barrel, tightly held by all the dirt, when Walt knows that he dug one giant hole that held all seven barrels.

I get that Walt, since being discovered, is much more emotional now, but the confession did seem like a bit much.  Yes, he was panicking, and yes he didn't know that Jesse was working with Hank.  However, why did he have to be so specific with his confessions?  And like another poster pointed out, Jesse wasn't even prodding him about it.

POSSIBLE SPOILERS:




Semi-related, I don't know if the buzzfeed article has been discussed here yet, but I'm not reading the rest of the thread to figure it out, so here we go.  Essentially there was an article showing a number of easter eggs/thoughtful story elements that go into the show.  The biggest part of it is that we discovered that Walt inherits traits from everyone he kills, whether he has seen them perform this trait or not.

He now cuts the crusts off his sandwich, puts a towel down in front of the toilet before getting sick, tells Lydia to learn to take yes for an answer, etc.  Knowing this, there is at least one more character that he kills judging by his actions in the flash forwards.  He appears to be wearing a jacket very similar to Jesse's, though my friend doesn't believe they are similar enough.  They put a lot of thought into the clothes that the characters wear so at worst it's a toss up.  However, there is one character who has at least two traits present in the future Walt.  We see Walt forming bacon into the number of his age on his birthday, and he is using Skyler's maiden name.  Were the spoilers really hidden in the show all along?

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Post by: Chino on September 10, 2013, 07:35:38 AM
 :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg:

http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2013/09/10/Breaking-Bad-Lego-Set-Sold-Out?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
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Post by: TioJorge on September 10, 2013, 11:12:07 AM
I really enjoyed it. It really irks me when people compare to past episodes so much that the 'bar' is immovable. I know, I know...comparisons will be made, that much is inevitable. But when you compare so much that an amazing episode such as this one is diminished because of it, it's kind of ridiculous. Yeah, opinions and assholes. Whatevs toats dood. I myself thought this episode was wonderful. Not the best, but it was incredibly tense, moved the story forward a good few paces and gave us some details into how the road is paved to that year-long time-skip we saw at the beginning of both the original start of the season as well as the second part of S5 (P.S. FUCK ZUNE MARKETPLACE for calling this 'Season 6' and making me pay full price again).

The ending was spectacular, but the rest of the episode was still very enjoyable. Also...a big fat 'WUT' to anyone who is surprised that Hule ratted.... Have you seen this fuckin' guy at all? He is a total moron. An almost useless, bumbling, drooling idiot. They could have showed a ten-year-old's drawing of Jesse with a bunch of scribbled red marker all over his head and he'd freak out just as much. That was NOT a stretch by any means. C'mon now...it's Hule, not Gus. Not that I'm arguing with anyone's opinion here, this is in reference to my friends whom I watched it with. Everyone will have their own jaded opinion. I'm really looking forward to how they surprise us with the ending to this showdown.

It's not really that he ratted at all, more that he instantly caved in like a mineshaft.  Apparently the theme of the episode was "convincing people of lies using poor fake cell phone pictures".  I understand Huell is dumb, but he's supposed to at least be good at what he does, and that picture didn't even have a bullet hole in it, did it?

I'll admit I took the bait the second they showed the barrel photo too, but Walt is supposed to be a lot smarter than me.  :lol  Hank made the comment about how it wouldn't matter that the dirt didn't match, but I would be more concerned by the fact that the photo only showed one barrel, tightly held by all the dirt, when Walt knows that he dug one giant hole that held all seven barrels.

I get that Walt, since being discovered, is much more emotional now, but the confession did seem like a bit much.  Yes, he was panicking, and yes he didn't know that Jesse was working with Hank.  However, why did he have to be so specific with his confessions?  And like another poster pointed out, Jesse wasn't even prodding him about it.

POSSIBLE SPOILERS:




Semi-related, I don't know if the buzzfeed article has been discussed here yet, but I'm not reading the rest of the thread to figure it out, so here we go.  Essentially there was an article showing a number of easter eggs/thoughtful story elements that go into the show.  The biggest part of it is that we discovered that Walt inherits traits from everyone he kills, whether he has seen them perform this trait or not.

He now cuts the crusts off his sandwich, puts a towel down in front of the toilet before getting sick, tells Lydia to learn to take yes for an answer, etc.  Knowing this, there is at least one more character that he kills judging by his actions in the flash forwards.  He appears to be wearing a jacket very similar to Jesse's, though my friend doesn't believe they are similar enough.  They put a lot of thought into the clothes that the characters wear so at worst it's a toss up.  However, there is one character who has at least two traits present in the future Walt.  We see Walt forming bacon into the number of his age on his birthday, and he is using Skyler's maiden name.  Were the spoilers really hidden in the show all along?

Where did you get the impression that Hule was good at what he does? (which...unless he's sitting on his ass at Saul's, isn't much at all. It's mostly Bill Burr that has helped out Walt and co) I just...I can't fathom how anyone would be surprised at this. He's not good at anything except his poker face cause there's nothing but rotting poop in that deformed cranium of his. But hey, to each his own. I just don't see that as a stretch at all; the moment I saw Hank and Gomey walk into that room where Hule was sitting, I knew it was over for that poor fawker.

We have indeed spoke of that interesting...er 'habbit'(?) of Walt's...and I thought it was a stretch at the time, to be a fully-formed aspect of Walt's personality, and more of a 'nod' by the writers to past characters. A sort of unknowing homage by Walt. But if anything else turns up, or as you said the aspects of the jacket, bacon (which is painfully obvious...I think that one is more of a way to show the time-skip and loneliness of Walt), and/or other intricacies, then that'd be really fuggin' awesome, as I said in the past.

I don't think anything will come of it, or at least nothing too major, but it'd be really funny, cool and clever if they made something of it. It's certainly been a point of interest for a lot of fans and it's prominent enough to where it's clearly not just coincidence. But as a major point/fault of Walt's character? That remains to be seen, I think.

----

Rewatched the episode a few minutes ago and I do think that Walt flying off the handle says a whole lot more about his state of mind than it does about any kind of bad writing...which, well, everyone has an opinion, but I cannot possibly see how someone could think this episode (on it's own) is bad by any means or that there were stretches of logic or realism. Knowing what is going on in each person's respective life and knowing how screwed up things have become, each scenario is completely possible and understandable. Again though, not disputing with anyone here, I've done enough of that with my numbskull friend who apparently thinks Hule is some fucking mastermind of crime... :\ I enjoyed the episode. Ready for the next already. Dat cliffhanger! Which...this show has absolutely perfected, by the way. I usually hate cliffhangers and find them to be very predictable, but this show gets me every damn time.  :lol
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 10, 2013, 01:43:48 PM
Great post! I agree 100%
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Post by: zepp-head on September 10, 2013, 01:44:20 PM
I guess it's more that I've never seen him be particularly bad at his job, and Saul is so good at getting things done that it seems like he'd have a good henchman.  Huell is obviously dumb, but he just seemed way too quick to cave entirely.  Resilience is what I guess I expected more of.

As far as the traits Walt inherits, I think it's completely legitimate.  If they are really just making nods toward past characters (all of whom Walt killed, and there are about a dozen instances I haven't mentioned yet that follow) I can't imagine a good reason for it. 

I get the Walt thing, it just still feels a bit out of place.  Though he has been getting dumber lately I suppose.  He really didn't think Todd's uncle was going to come for him anymore?
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 10, 2013, 01:52:38 PM
I guess ever since he got out of the business, he just kinda started being laid back and decided he didn't really have to try as hard anymore.
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Post by: TVC 15 on September 10, 2013, 02:43:29 PM
^^^
Agreed. He's been more about paying people to do the work for him.

Note the gasoline in the living room situation. The old Walt would have turned to science to find a home-brewed solution to take the smell off the carpet. Instead, he hired a cleaner that said it was impossible to take the smell off with their off-the-shelf chemicals.
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 10, 2013, 02:49:48 PM
Walt's a lazy ass fucker now. :rollin
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 10, 2013, 07:04:55 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/rcRpwye.jpg)

There's a new plot developing.
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Post by: puppyonacid on September 11, 2013, 06:05:49 AM
I cannot believe how stupid I am sometimes.

I have been racking my brians trying to recall a scene with a pillow that talks in BB. Now I know that you're referring to the scene where they pass the cushion around and whomever has it can talk.

Blimey!
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Post by: KevShmev on September 11, 2013, 11:38:32 AM
Interesting thing about this final season so far:

We have seen far more of Walter White than Heisenberg.  Hell, as far gone as Walt seems to be from a morality standpoint, he still had it in him to try and warn Hank when he saw Jack and his crew coming.  Considering Hank had him dead to rights and had just arrested him, for Walt to still have the gut reaction to warn him when he saw trouble coming shows that a lot of Walter White is still in there; he has never totally been all Heisenberg.  It makes me wonder if the writers will try to redeem Walt in some fashion.  Not sure how they would do it, but it does make me wonder.  Considering that you know a large part of the audience is still rooting for Walt to some extent, I think a little redemption for Walter White before its over is something many would be happy to see.  It's just a matter of, can the writers pull it off convincingly?
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 11, 2013, 12:26:27 PM
Interesting thing about this final season so far:

We have seen far more of Walter White than Heisenberg.  Hell, as far gone as Walt seems to be from a morality standpoint, he still had it in him to try and warn Hank when he saw Jack and his crew coming.  Considering Hank had him dead to rights and had just arrested him, for Walt to still have the gut reaction to warn him when he saw trouble coming shows that a lot of Walter White is still in there; he has never totally been all Heisenberg.  It makes me wonder if the writers will try to redeem Walt in some fashion.  Not sure how they would do it, but it does make me wonder.  Considering that you know a large part of the audience is still rooting for Walt to some extent, I think a little redemption for Walter White before its over is something many would be happy to see.  It's just a matter of, can the writers pull it off convincingly?

That's a good point. It seems whenever it comes to Hank, he never wants him to get hurt; ironically he almost got Hank killed on different occasions. I guess that's just his view on family, though. He loves Hank but he doesn't want him to succeed.
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 11, 2013, 02:36:47 PM
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/09/11/breaking-bad-spinoff-better-call-saul-confirmed?abthid=5230d3cb22c745a338000010

The Saul spin-off show, "Better Call Saul", is confirmed to be a prequel. So now that raises questions about Saul's fate as Breaking Bad comes to a close. I had a feeling it would be a prequel anyway.
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Post by: zepp-head on September 11, 2013, 02:46:03 PM
Firstly, awesome news about the show!

Secondly, Goodman's not dying.  He'll weasel out of anything. 

I have a feeling that Walt may attempt redemption, but knowing how much Vince Gilligan is into religious-style atonement, he absolutely has to get what's coming to him.  I think he'll be powerless by the show's end.
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Post by: senecadawg2 on September 12, 2013, 08:03:27 AM
hmmm... season rankings? Though, it's hard to fairly rate season 5 at this point in the show. As the loose ends are tied up, its position will surely change.

4
3
5
2
1
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Post by: NecessaryPain on September 12, 2013, 08:24:23 AM
Interesting thing about this final season so far:

We have seen far more of Walter White than Heisenberg.  Hell, as far gone as Walt seems to be from a morality standpoint, he still had it in him to try and warn Hank when he saw Jack and his crew coming.  Considering Hank had him dead to rights and had just arrested him, for Walt to still have the gut reaction to warn him when he saw trouble coming shows that a lot of Walter White is still in there; he has never totally been all Heisenberg.  It makes me wonder if the writers will try to redeem Walt in some fashion.  Not sure how they would do it, but it does make me wonder.  Considering that you know a large part of the audience is still rooting for Walt to some extent, I think a little redemption for Walter White before its over is something many would be happy to see.  It's just a matter of, can the writers pull it off convincingly?

Good point, but this is something I'm not too fond of. I wanted Walt's transition to be complete by the end of the show, but it appears the writers have held back on turning him into a true, cold-hearted villian. I was half expecting Walt to call the hit on both Hank and Gomez, but he decided to spare them both. I suppose this still stays true to the whole 'actions have consequences' angle that the writers have been using throughout the show. (as I expect both Hank and Gomez to die in the next episode) Jesse, on the other hand, I think will be forced to work with Walt - once more - and I can still see some sort of bond between the two characters again, even at this stage.

I'm glad it's all coming to an end because of the sheer level of consistency by the writers and actors. No show goes over 5 Seasons and remains completely awesome, IMO. All angles and emotions have been covered by that point. Although never quite on the same level, Dexter turned into a pile or garbage by the 6th Season, and anything less from Breaking Bad would tarnish the shows legacy.
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Post by: KevShmev on September 12, 2013, 08:34:07 AM
I don't see any way Walt and Jesse find any kind of common ground to be friends/work together/not hate each other/etc.  Trust on both sides has been obliterated: Jesse will never forgive Walt for poisoning Brock, and Walt will now always see Jesse as a rat.  And I don't think the circumstances of the final three episodes will require them to do so anyway.
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Post by: NecessaryPain on September 12, 2013, 12:57:13 PM
I don't see any way Walt and Jesse find any kind of common ground to be friends/work together/not hate each other/etc.  Trust on both sides has been obliterated: Jesse will never forgive Walt for poisoning Brock, and Walt will now always see Jesse as a rat.  And I don't think the circumstances of the final three episodes will require them to do so anyway.

I'm not expecting some sort of reconcilliation between the pair, but I do see something happenning. I think one of them will save the other - in some way.

On a side note, as gripping as it was, the end shootout seemed extremely unrealistic considering there were 10 trained men aiming at both Hank and Gomez and hitting nothing but sand and air. It took them a good few seconds to reach cover. Anyone else notice this? I expect both of them to die in the next episode.
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Post by: TioJorge on September 12, 2013, 01:18:03 PM
Um...trained? Really?

...Have you seen them, heard their mannerisms? They're goons; thugs; drones. They are not trained. It's a stretch, to be sure, that they're that bad... But it's believable, to me at least. They're completely street-trained.

Actually, when I think on it, it's much more of a stretch to think that Gomey and Hank, two verifiable badasses, didn't hit anyone; not the other way around. Regardless of clip-size (most of them had automatics as well, a gun that's even more useless to the untrained hand).

Ed: Oh, and the fact that Hank and Gomey hid behind the truck that the man that Jack and Todd's guys (and ironically enough, to some extent, Gomey and Hank themselves...so Walt can rot in jail and not, as Hank put it 'get off easy') were trying to protect was hiding in and...they still shot that truck up pretty good... now that's the part that makes me think WTF...

But I get your point, I just don't see those fools being in any way trained.
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Post by: axeman90210 on September 12, 2013, 09:02:12 PM
I'm torn between thinking there's no credible way that Hank and Gomez survive the shootout, and that it doesn't make sense dramatically for Hank to die at the beginning of an episode rather than the end.
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Post by: zepp-head on September 13, 2013, 08:06:00 AM
I'm torn between thinking there's no credible way that Hank and Gomez survive the shootout, and that it doesn't make sense dramatically for Hank to die at the beginning of an episode rather than the end.

Right, but maybe he gets injured and doesn't actually croak until the end.  I don't think it looks good for Hank, he already said his damning final words to Marie and it would be incredibly redundant to just be injured again without dying.
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Post by: Chino on September 15, 2013, 07:23:52 PM
Well I haven't been this depressed since I saw the end of The Mist for the first time....
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Post by: senecadawg2 on September 15, 2013, 07:41:01 PM
It's only going to get worse. Jesse's next
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Post by: senecadawg2 on September 15, 2013, 07:50:14 PM
Aaaaand... This is hilarious
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Post by: Chino on September 15, 2013, 07:51:38 PM
My head just exploded
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Post by: Chino on September 15, 2013, 08:03:51 PM
That was arguably the best episode of any TV show that I've ever seen.
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Post by: Chino on September 15, 2013, 08:09:22 PM
Walt totally knew the cops were there when he called Skyler. He intentionally made himself look like more of monster in an attempt to save her.

I still argue that Walt's still cancer free.
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Post by: mike099 on September 15, 2013, 08:10:34 PM
Great show.  So many emotions in one episode.  Walter Jr's first real acting.  The duct tape on the had was so funny and for some reason that dog or what ever that was lumbering across the street at the end of the episode was odd. 
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Post by: Dimitrius on September 15, 2013, 08:10:53 PM
The feels man
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Post by: antigoon on September 15, 2013, 08:11:56 PM
i want to die
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Post by: Dimitrius on September 15, 2013, 08:13:01 PM
That was arguably the best episode of any TV show that I've ever seen.
So you're arguing against yourself for that? :lol


Walt totally knew the cops were there when he called Skyler. He intentionally made himself look like more of monster in an attempt to save her.

I still argue that Walt's still cancer free.
Yep!

Stop, just stop
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Post by: Chino on September 15, 2013, 08:19:03 PM
There is no way in hell that Walt honestly thought there were no cops listening to that phone call. Fuck, Jr called them as he was kidnapping his daughter. First off, he took all the blame for the operation. He conveniently left the car wash and Skyler's involvement out of the story. And he worded Hank's disappearance in such a way that made him look 100% responsible.

If he still had cancer, and was in fact going to be dead soon, why would he have called in for a new identity AND keep the money that is suppose to be for his family. Wouldn't he have buried it/hid it agin if his ticket was being called soon?
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Post by: Dimitrius on September 15, 2013, 08:22:09 PM
He lost his family, like the poem the episode's title refers to he has no empire, no nothing anymore. With how self-serving and egocentric he has become, would it be a stretch to think he said "well fuck it, this is all mine now"?
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Post by: antigoon on September 15, 2013, 08:35:06 PM
i think chino's right about the first part. not buying that he doesnt have cancer.
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Post by: senecadawg2 on September 15, 2013, 09:17:45 PM
Great show.  So many emotions in one episode.  Walter Jr's first real acting.  The duct tape on the had was so funny and for some reason that dog or what ever that was lumbering across the street at the end of the episode was odd.

Yeah. And I was surprised at how well he did.

Best episode of the season thus far, for me! 2 episodes left :caffeine:
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Post by: KevShmev on September 15, 2013, 09:54:53 PM
That was the best hour of television ever.  My God.  I think I was nearly shaking for much of that episode, because it was so intense and riveting.  When it was over, I just sat there, stunned, not believing what I had just seen. 

 :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 15, 2013, 10:16:33 PM
Oh my god. Fantastic
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Post by: KevShmev on September 15, 2013, 10:33:03 PM
The guy in your avatar is dead.
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Post by: Marion Crane on September 15, 2013, 10:40:03 PM
I really don't see the Walt doesn't have cancer argument.  There was a scene of him going through chemo.  Why would he fake that with no one around?
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Post by: KevShmev on September 15, 2013, 10:42:35 PM
Of course he has cancer; it is silly to argue otherwise.  Hell, even in the flash forward from the first episode of Season 5 (the scene at Denny's), he is still coughing, which is a sign that the cancer is back.
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Post by: zepp-head on September 15, 2013, 11:03:57 PM
Blown away.  What an incredible show.
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Post by: toro on September 15, 2013, 11:11:54 PM
My god that was painful.

I don't even want to watch the next 2 episodes, it's gonna be  too much for me  :-\ :-\
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Post by: KevShmev on September 15, 2013, 11:28:00 PM
It's gonna be hard to top tonight'e episode.

I can't believe that Jesse's fate will be being held hostage to cook and be tortured.  That would be a very unsatisfying arc for his character.  I gotta think he will get free at some point and kill Todd, which would be poetic justice for Todd since Jesse was the one who was so pissed at him for killing Drew Sharp (the kid on the bike following the freight train heist).

I think it is likely that Walt eventually comes back to kill Jack and his crew (as shown in the flash forward where he got the assault weaponry at Denny's), most likely because of actions Jack is still likely to take in the future regarding the confession tape Jesse made that is still at Hank and Marie's.   

But the question still remains: for whom is the ricin?  Considering how important the ricin has been all along, that will play a pivotal role in the finale, you just know it.
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Post by: Scard on September 16, 2013, 12:00:00 AM
Predictions for next week...

-Walt has new identity (obviously through Saul's guy)
-Marie kills herself (mostly a hunch, but she was already so depressed before Hank died, and she's been wearing lots of black, etc)
-Next episode is going to be where we catch up with the earlier foreshadowing of him with hair and new glasses and a rifle in his trunk.
-I DO believe his cancer is back.
-Jesse is going to be hesitant, and possibly not show the Nazis how to cook properly fast enough for Walt's rescue...

Endgame predictions...

-It's clear that Walt STILL has feelings for his family, (getting Skylar off the hook, returning Holly)
-Walt is going to try to rescue Jesse, and probably die trying
-Somehow (haven't figured this one out yet) his family is going to get a large chunk of the $11million that he has. (maybe through a rescued Jesse)

Basically we're where we started. Walt has died, but before dying, he leaves his family with enough money to go on without him. Just like the initial plan.


Wasn't sure of the spoiler policy in this thread, so I made text small.
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Post by: m0hawk on September 16, 2013, 12:00:21 AM
About the whole Todd/Nazis/Lydia thing, here's how I think it's going to play out.

- The Nazis and Lydia have a disagreement for some reason, and it becomes very heated
- Todd, with his unreciprocated infatuation with Lydia, chooses her over his uncle and kills the entire crew, solidifying his role in the show as a very capable murderer who can be very single minded
- But Lydia being Lydia, doesn't give up her vag for Todd

Not sure what happens to Todd and Lydia, but i'm pretty sure that the nazis will be taken out by Todd. They have too little relevance to the entire series to have an "epic showdown" with the DEA or anything that's too climatic. They've already had their limelight, now let them go without too much of a fuss.
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Post by: Outcrier on September 16, 2013, 12:23:57 AM
Predictions for next week...

-Walt has new identity (obviously through Saul's guy)
-Marie kills herself (mostly a hunch, but she was already so depressed before Hank died, and she's been wearing lots of black, etc)
-Next episode is going to be where we catch up with the earlier foreshadowing of him with hair and new glasses and a rifle in his trunk.
-I DO believe his cancer is back.
-Jesse is going to be hesitant, and possibly not show the Nazis how to cook properly fast enough for Walt's rescue...

Endgame predictions...

-It's clear that Walt STILL has feelings for his family, (getting Skylar off the hook, returning Holly)
-Walt is going to try to rescue Jesse, and probably die trying
-Somehow (haven't figured this one out yet) his family is going to get a large chunk of the $11million that he has. (maybe through a rescued Jesse)

Basically we're where we started. Walt has died, but before dying, he leaves his family with enough money to go on without him. Just like the initial plan.


Wasn't sure of the spoiler policy in this thread, so I made text small.

Walt doesn't care about Jesse, why rescue him?
Only if his "rescue him to kill him" personally  :lol
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Post by: Heretic on September 16, 2013, 12:28:18 AM
Walt putting that act on for the police over the phone call is the best thing I've seen from this series. So much emotion and pain...Gilligan really doesn't know whether to make us hate or love Walt.
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Post by: Chino on September 16, 2013, 05:45:45 AM

But the question still remains: for whom is the ricin?  Considering how important the ricin has been all along, that will play a pivotal role in the finale, you just know it.

I still think there is the possibility that everyone but Walt dies, and he takes it himself.
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Post by: XJDenton on September 16, 2013, 06:10:36 AM
So who wants to play the Breaking Bad drinking game?

Rules: Take a Drink...

1. Until the pain goes away.
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Post by: The Trooper on September 16, 2013, 09:17:34 AM
INCREDIBLE episode. I think we have finally learned now that what we think we know, Vince just says, fuck you, no you dont. So i will not even speculate at this point, but say, thank you everyone involved in Breaking Bad. THE best TV show ever.
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Post by: Dimitrius on September 16, 2013, 09:25:06 AM

But the question still remains: for whom is the ricin?  Considering how important the ricin has been all along, that will play a pivotal role in the finale, you just know it.

I still think there is the possibility that everyone but Walt dies, and he takes it himself.
We should entertain the possibility that it could be just a red herring...

Though if its not, I'm going to say it's going into Lydia's tea.
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Post by: Bolsters on September 16, 2013, 09:28:30 AM
He could blast his way through Uncle Jack and company for what they did to Hank, and when face to face with Jesse, show him the ricin, shove it in Jesse's mouth, and then set him free. It'll take about three days for Jesse to die so he either waits it out in complete depression or ends up having to kill himself. A nice little hell given to him by Walter.

I am absolutely terrible at guessing things though and this is half in jest so I fully expect it to be nothing like that whatsoever. :lol
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 16, 2013, 09:32:36 AM
I hope Jesse doesn't die.
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 16, 2013, 12:02:52 PM
http://i.imgur.com/E60ZhXV.gif

Wow, this show is genius.

The guy in your avatar is dead.
and so is yours! :lol
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Post by: TioJorge on September 16, 2013, 12:08:29 PM
Absolutely breathtaking, beautifully constructed episode. It was tortuous and I loved every single second. With each episode, it becomes my favorite, but this one stomped all others. On one hand, I cannot wait to see what kind of destruction comes next, but on the other, I shudder at the thought of it. This is television at its finest, in every way.
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Post by: KevShmev on September 16, 2013, 12:11:14 PM


The guy in your avatar is dead.
and so is yours! :lol

Ha!

Possible foreshadowing??

(http://i.imgur.com/bCfMpRL.jpg)
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Post by: Chino on September 16, 2013, 12:12:35 PM
Whoa.
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Post by: Mebert78 on September 16, 2013, 12:27:01 PM
Anyone else notice that they were still showing the producer/director credits halfway through the show last night?  The above still shot reminded me of that.  It was disconcerting to me.  Blast them them in the first 2-3 minutes and move on.   
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Post by: KevShmev on September 16, 2013, 12:30:12 PM
I actually thought that was neat.  The long scene with Hank dying and Jesse being found and taken away was so long, no need to distract from it with the credits.  Saving it for when Walt was rolling the barrel was genius.  Speaking of which, did anyone else notice Walt's pants from the pilot on the foreground of one of the shots when he was rolling the barrel? :lol

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Post by: Chino on September 16, 2013, 12:30:44 PM
Anyone else notice that they were still showing the producer/director credits halfway through the show last night?     

Yeah, I noticed that too. I think that's the first time they've done that.
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Post by: Chino on September 16, 2013, 12:44:53 PM
I actually thought that was neat.  The long scene with Hank dying and Jesse being found and taken away was so long, no need to distract from it with the credits.  Saving it for when Walt was rolling the barrel was genius.  Speaking of which, did anyone else notice Walt's pants from the pilot on the foreground of one of the shots when he was rolling the barrel? :lol

I thought I noticed that!! I thought I was tripping  :rollin :rollin
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Post by: KevShmev on September 16, 2013, 12:55:37 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUQdYjhCMAA68z5.jpg)
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Post by: jsem on September 16, 2013, 01:57:09 PM
That was one of the most intense TV episodes of any series ever.
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Post by: kári on September 16, 2013, 02:11:59 PM
That was one of the most intense TV episodes of any series ever.
I wouldn't say *that* .... :)
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Post by: Lolzeez on September 16, 2013, 02:46:54 PM
I'm not even looking at the posts here. I started like 10 days ago. Currently on the 9th episode of the 3rd season.
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Post by: axeman90210 on September 16, 2013, 07:23:22 PM
Last night was one of the best hours of TV I've had the pleasure of watching.
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Post by: Outcrier on September 16, 2013, 08:39:14 PM
Last night was one of the best hours of TV I've had the pleasure of watching.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk0dBZ1meio
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Post by: zepp-head on September 17, 2013, 07:27:24 AM
http://i.imgur.com/E60ZhXV.gif

Wow, this show is genius.

The guy in your avatar is dead.
and so is yours! :lol

Ahh yes, and let's compare it to the Ozymadias statue.

(http://www.hlswatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/ozymandias-statue-2.jpg)
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on September 17, 2013, 02:17:31 PM
That was one helluva rollercoaster of emotions. Very painful to watch but loved every second of it!
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Post by: NecessaryPain on September 17, 2013, 05:01:34 PM
Okay, I definitely agree now that Walt and Jesse's relationship is beyind repair so I've got one final viewpoint in regards to the finale.

I see Jesse as surviving at the end, somehow. I think after the ride he's been on he will eventually find his peace. Perhaps with his girl and Brock.

Walt on the other hand will die, but I don't see this happenning on-screen unless they decide to show us brutally. I think the ricin is for no one other than himself. Who else would he use it on? Something big will probably happen in the next episode but I can't see it making a significant difference to who he wants to kill. If he's going after Jack's gang why would he need the poison? And Jesse is practically dead to him so I can't see him wanting to use it on him, either. I think the ricin will act as Walt's 'medication' and we'll all be left with the knowledge that he's taken his poison and is about to die.

As for the final scene, perhaps Walt just knowing his family is safe (of leaving them the money) will be enough for him to die in peace. I really don't think he's gonna go out guns-blazing like Al Pacino in Scarface...everyone is expecting this. If there's anything we've learnt from Breaking Bad it's to expect the unexpected.
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Post by: KevShmev on September 17, 2013, 05:11:30 PM
Why would Walt take the ricin himself?  If he wanted to off himself, just about any other way would be less painful than slowly dying from taking ricin.  I just don't get that prediction.
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Post by: NecessaryPain on September 17, 2013, 05:22:15 PM
Why would Walt take the ricin himself?  If he wanted to off himself, just about any other way would be less painful than slowly dying from taking ricin.  I just don't get that prediction.

Condiering the significance to his particular drug throughout the entire show, would it not be a fitting ending of sorts? People are mentioning Lydia and her cups of tea, but why would Walt even give a damn about her at this stage?

I agree with what you're saying but where does Walt explain that the ricin kills you slowly and painfully. Wasn't there a mention of your body just shutting down or flu symptoms way back in Season 1? If it's a long drawn out process then yeah, I'd take your point head-on.
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Post by: KevShmev on September 17, 2013, 05:28:38 PM
If the nazis come off Skyler and his family (like, to get Jesse's confession tape or for another reason), maybe Walt agrees to meet with Lydia to work out some type of agreement/arrangement, but his actual plan is to poison her with the ricin and then go after the nazis with the guns he now has.  A lot of possible scenarios. 

Look up ricin on the 'net.  It is a pretty awful way to die.
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Post by: NecessaryPain on September 17, 2013, 05:37:51 PM
If the nazis come off Skyler and his family (like, to get Jesse's confession tape or for another reason), maybe Walt agrees to meet with Lydia to work out some type of agreement/arrangement, but his actual plan is to poison her with the ricin and then go after the nazis with the guns he now has.  A lot of possible scenarios. 

Look up ricin on the 'net.  It is a pretty awful way to die.

Okay, but if you find the exact scene where Walt explains the ricin to Jesse then send me a link!

On another note, wouldn't an untraceable death be better for his family to endure? It could look more like the cancer had killed him in the end. As Walt has explained before, everything he has done is for his family. Maybe I'm reaching...I just don't see how poisoning Lydia would make sense. Wasn't it hinted earlier on in the Season at the cafe? I think Walt planned to put the ricin in her drink unless she did what he said. (which she did)
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Post by: KevShmev on September 17, 2013, 05:42:06 PM
The only reason Walt didn't give her the ricin then was because of the Czech Republic deal the two made. 

Every Breaking Bad scene is not on youtube, so I doubt it is online, but I think it is the end of Season 1 when he first introduces ricin and explains it to Jesse.
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Post by: TioJorge on September 17, 2013, 05:49:58 PM
NP, Walt said it would look like a heart attack, he said nothing of the pain and drawn out process. It's up to you to find the scene, we're not here for sources...c'mon now, this is pure fan discussion...you want a verified source, find it yourself on Google, which would probably take about five minutes tops (if you can't find it through video, look up scripts if you want it that badly). My memory is good enough, if yours isn't...I feel for you (/pothead). I did some research when it was first mentioned, as I'm sure many others did, and it is indeed the most moronic theory that there is. I'll bet my pair of balls that Walt does not use ricin on himself. It makes absolutely no sense in any scenario you can think of. It's idiotic, to be blunt. It's for someone else, the only question is 'who?'

The fact that Walt doesn't explain it within the show means jack shit; he's a lying, manipulative, conniving mastermind. Nothing that comes out of his mouth is believable. It's not fitting at all; in fact, it's the exact opposite. Walt quite literally has a death warrant already, he's done and finished in every way imaginable. There's nothing that cures cancer, even in this show. Why the fuck would he put himself through a torturous death when he's already guaranteed one? Stupid, stupid, stupid theory. It's not going to happen. Even if he was 'pushed' to the point to where that's literally all he had left, I can't see a single scenario where that would be better than any alternative unless the alternative is being raped by Hule for a full week and then slowly chopped up with a rusty butter knife.

I personally think the ricin can't be for anyone but Jesse now that we know that Hank and Gomey are dead. The others will suffer a much crueler fate if Walt has his way...which, I don't think will happen. I doubt I'm right, because this show stumps me every fucking time, but anyone else he needs to kill, including Lydia (which doesn't make any sense unless he randomly wants back into the game to make some quick cash) is wide open to any other attack. He clearly no longer has to hide; he's exposed beyond belief when we see him in the year-long time-skip. Completely. The ricin will be for someone who he doesn't want to know that he killed them. The only one that comes to mind is Jesse.

Even so, this show will find a way to factor in another equation entirely. I cannot wait for the finale!!! Fuck everyone's theories. These writers have our numbers, man. GAME OVER MAN, GAME OVER!

ED: Some of this sounded kinda rude, I don't mean to be, NP. I'm a bit tipsy and become blunt at that point.  :heart :heart Fact of the matter is that I hope each and every one of us is deathly wrong. Thus far the writers have mad sure of that. Those conniving geniuses!
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Post by: reneranucci on September 17, 2013, 07:27:18 PM
Lydia WILL play a role as she will try to protect Uncle Ted's gang. They are making meth for her. And they killed Hank, Walt has reasons to go after them.

The part that bothered me from the Ozymandias episode was Walt telling Jesse about Jane, it seemed overly cruel towards a man who had a death penalty over him. I know Jesse betrayed Walt in an ugly way and that Walt is a monster now, but still, it was too much (although fitting  with the overload of emotions on the episode).

One important point: I think Skyler knew that Walt was framing the phone call to put all the guilt on himself, because he said many things he never actually told Skyler to do. So maybe there is still a possibility of Skyler forgiving Walt.
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Post by: antigoon on September 17, 2013, 08:32:46 PM
Anyone else notice that they were still showing the producer/director credits halfway through the show last night?  The above still shot reminded me of that.  It was disconcerting to me.  Blast them them in the first 2-3 minutes and move on.   

Vince, the writer of the episode, and the director spoke about this on the Breaking Bad Insider podcast this week (which I highly recommend). They thought running the credits after the teaser like they do every other episode would have been inappropriate given the emotional context of what was happening (hank saying his last words, etc). Apparently they had to get special permission from the Directors' union to do so.
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Post by: orcus116 on September 17, 2013, 08:34:36 PM
The part that bothered me from the Ozymandias episode was Walt telling Jesse about Jane, it seemed overly cruel towards a man who had a death penalty over him. I know Jesse betrayed Walt in an ugly way and that Walt is a monster now, but still, it was too much (although fitting  with the overload of emotions on the episode).

I saw this on another forum regarding that and I completely agree:

"My feeling with that is Walt felt so betrayed by Jesse and just saw a close family member shot due to Jesse's actions (even if thats not what Jesse wanted to happen) Walt just wanted Jesse to feel the amount of hurt and betrayal that Walt was feeling from Jesse. Walt has now lost everything, and Jesse's betrayal is what led to that. Walt wanted Jesse to feel that same heartbreak, emptiness and betrayal that Jesse caused Walt."
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Post by: KevShmev on September 17, 2013, 09:27:18 PM
TioJorge, I agree with most of what you said, but to clarify, there is no need for a year-long skip to get to the two flash forwards we have already seen:

-The police referred to Holly as 18 months old when giving out the Amber Alert the other day.
-Holly was not born until near the end of Season 2.
-a large amount of time was glossed over in Gliding All Over (final ep of 5a) in the musical montage, presumably to allow them to skip a bunch of time, and the montage heavily focused on meth and money, which probably referred to the big money Walt was making off of the deal he and Lydia made to sell to the Czech Republic.

So, given that the series began on Walt's 50th, I don't think we are that far away from his 52nd, which is when the first flash forward took place.
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Post by: Dimitrius on September 17, 2013, 10:10:41 PM
George R.R. Martin's thoughts on Walter White: “Walter White is a bigger monster than anyone in Westeros. (I need to do something about that)”

I'm genuinely scared!
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Post by: Bolsters on September 17, 2013, 10:21:59 PM
Yeah, Walder Frey sure is no Walter White.
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Post by: Dimitrius on September 17, 2013, 10:29:57 PM
Yeah, Walder Frey sure is no Walter White.
Nor is Ramsay Snow.
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Post by: TioJorge on September 17, 2013, 10:46:56 PM
Damn...that's saying a lot right there. I tend to agree. There's people in ASOIAF that are inherently more evil than White, to be sure, but there's no one that seems to be as equally manipulative, loving, caring, deceitful, horrific, carrying an a slight petulance with him, all the while screaming "WE'RE FAMILY, WE'RE FAMILY!!!" as he feeds you ricin. He's fucking terrifying at this point. Psychotic to the bone.
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Post by: KevShmev on September 18, 2013, 08:43:38 AM
This is long, but a great watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGzrUr6Id7U

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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on September 18, 2013, 09:23:44 AM
Heard this question on reddit so:

Which episode shocked you the most?
Ozymandias or The Red Wedding

I must say that because I didn't read the books before watching TRW that episode just blew me away. So I think TRW wins for me but goddamn Ozymandias is a fine moment in TV show history. The whole show is.



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Post by: Bolsters on September 18, 2013, 09:38:21 AM
When it comes to shock value, definitely the red wedding. I had absolutely no idea that it was coming, and watching Talisa get stabbed in the womb was shocking and fucking brutal. Then pretty much everyone else there dies aswell. Jaw: on floor.

Ozymandias is a great episode, but I'm not sure I'd say there was anything truly shocking about it.
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Post by: KevShmev on September 18, 2013, 09:57:53 AM
I don't know what The Red Wedding is, but if this is another show, can we avoid spoilers for those of us who might watch whatever that show is someday?
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Post by: senecadawg2 on September 18, 2013, 11:54:07 AM
I don't know what The Red Wedding is, but if this is another show, can we avoid spoilers for those of us who might watch whatever that show is someday?

Amen. As someone who hates to have shocking endings ruined, I am almost equally annoyed when an ending is ruined for someone else. Let's keep Game of Thrones spoilers out of the Breaking Bad discussion.
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Post by: KevShmev on September 18, 2013, 12:05:45 PM
Too late.  :facepalm: :censored

But seriously, people.
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Post by: Chino on September 18, 2013, 12:30:15 PM
I don't know what The Red Wedding is, but if this is another show, can we avoid spoilers for those of us who might watch whatever that show is someday?

Amen. As someone who hates to have shocking endings ruined, I am almost equally annoyed when an ending is ruined for someone else. Let's keep Game of Thrones spoilers out of the Breaking Bad discussion.

I was just starting GOT when that episode aired. It was spoiled time and time again in the following days. I stopped watching the show.
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Post by: Chino on September 18, 2013, 03:36:07 PM
I laughed way harder at this than I should have

 :rollin :rollin

(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTUd28EAzgo1bXm_CHzn_24_M7iQSDDT7XsjMHo2m3f3fagncWlGQ)
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Post by: jsem on September 18, 2013, 03:41:48 PM
That is disturbing.
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Post by: reneranucci on September 18, 2013, 03:53:08 PM
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/bfed70e1e7007944da743911eb0b2886/tumblr_ms71swP4XQ1sylkpto1_500.jpg)
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Post by: senecadawg2 on September 18, 2013, 06:07:31 PM
I don't know what The Red Wedding is, but if this is another show, can we avoid spoilers for those of us who might watch whatever that show is someday?

Amen. As someone who hates to have shocking endings ruined, I am almost equally annoyed when an ending is ruined for someone else. Let's keep Game of Thrones spoilers out of the Breaking Bad discussion.

I was just starting GOT when that episode aired. It was spoiled time and time again in the following days. I stopped watching the show.

It's still a damn fine show, and totally worth watching if you ever get a free week or two to marathon through it! :tup   
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Post by: The Trooper on September 18, 2013, 07:51:51 PM
Per Peter Gould's twitter, the final 2 episodes will be 75 minutes each!
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Post by: Chino on September 18, 2013, 10:15:14 PM
Per Peter Gould's twitter, the final 2 episodes will be 75 minutes each!

With or without commercials?
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Post by: Bolsters on September 18, 2013, 10:20:37 PM
I laughed way harder at this than I should have

 :rollin :rollin

(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTUd28EAzgo1bXm_CHzn_24_M7iQSDDT7XsjMHo2m3f3fagncWlGQ)
So did I. :rollin
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Post by: Sigz on September 18, 2013, 11:07:25 PM
Per Peter Gould's twitter, the final 2 episodes will be 75 minutes each!

With or without commercials?

With, it's basically be an hour long.
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Post by: KevShmev on September 18, 2013, 11:10:49 PM
The finale of this show is like a concert you are dying to see: you can't wait for it, but a big part of you is gonna be sad when it's over.
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Post by: jsem on September 19, 2013, 05:51:24 AM
The finale of this show is like a concert you are dying to see: you can't wait for it, but a big part of you is gonna be sad when it's over.
So true.
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Post by: Bolsters on September 19, 2013, 05:56:38 AM
The finale of this show is like a concert you are dying to see: you can't wait for it, but a big part of you is gonna be sad when it's over.
(http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o669/bolsters/hector_sadface.png~original)

:hectorsadface:
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Post by: KevShmev on September 19, 2013, 07:19:56 AM
(http://www.vh1.com/celebrity/bwe/images/2011/10/Breaking-Bad-Gus-Phone-1318226439.jpg)

 :lol :lol :lol
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Post by: Chino on September 19, 2013, 09:53:51 AM
The finale of this show is like a concert you are dying to see: you can't wait for it, but a big part of you is gonna be sad when it's over.
So true.

This is going to be the saddest show ending ever, regardless how it plays out. Just the fact that it's over is devastating. One part of me doesn't want it to end because it's so good. The other part of me is glad it's ending because it's ending on the show's directors terms and not on a network's (If that makes sense). The show is so good because of a properly planned ending.

For example, I loved the office. I watched that from the very first episode to the last (on TV, not Netflix). I had so much time invested in that show, but I wanted it to end so badly. Don't get me wrong, I still praise it, but that show got milked for so long, that there was no really story left anywhere. It finally got canned and a really terrible ending was forced. Had they wrapped the show up when Michael left, or shortly after, the show would have been much better as a whole. I feel like Lost could have been done perfectly in four slightly longer seasons, but that got stretched to the point where (IMO) it just started to suck. Then there are the shows I loved that didn't get the opportunity to have a proper ending; Terra Nova, FireFly, Freaks and Geeks, Party Down, etc...

RIP Breaking Bad (soon). You done good.
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Post by: senecadawg2 on September 19, 2013, 09:57:02 AM
I'm just thrilled its going to end on a high note, of natural causes. A ruined ending would forever smear what was a great first 4 seasons. Thankfully, that seems highly unlikely at this point.
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Post by: jsem on September 19, 2013, 11:29:19 AM
The other part of me is glad it's ending because it's ending one the show's directors and not a network's (If that makes sense). The show is so good because of a properly planned ending.
That's exactly how it should be. All my favorite shows are like that.
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Post by: TioJorge on September 19, 2013, 11:33:28 AM
 :tup :tup True knockin'.
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Post by: Chino on September 19, 2013, 01:24:39 PM
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/603886_646002332132509_1592976093_n.jpg)
(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1012502_605319842844065_136949516_n.jpg)
(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1234859_720534421306310_320884437_n.jpg)
(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/63928_10201608205022078_613722579_n.jpg)
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Post by: antigoon on September 19, 2013, 04:33:17 PM
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/bfed70e1e7007944da743911eb0b2886/tumblr_ms71swP4XQ1sylkpto1_500.jpg)

This is perfect
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Post by: The Trooper on September 19, 2013, 08:38:11 PM
The finale of this show is like a concert you are dying to see: you can't wait for it, but a big part of you is gonna be sad when it's over.

so f'n true!
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Post by: TioJorge on September 19, 2013, 10:04:57 PM
For as much of a misanthropic motherfucker I am, even I think that the memes of Walt Jr. are tasteless and fucked up and I hope whomsoever created them dies of AIDs after being fucked by a large hairy gorilla. But not after becoming a quadriplegic by rusty butter knife. Especially since the kid is a fantastic actor who actually has a mild case of cerebral palsy.

So yeah fuck that meme in the asshole.

The rest are awesome though. Especially the King Of The Hill one.  :rollin :lol
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Post by: Sigz on September 19, 2013, 10:30:08 PM
For as much of a misanthropic motherfucker I am, even I think that the memes of Walt Jr. are tasteless and fucked up and I hope whomsoever created them dies of AIDs after being fucked by a large hairy gorilla. But not after becoming a quadriplegic by rusty butter knife. Especially since the kid is a fantastic actor who actually has a mild case of cerebral palsy.

BUUT TEEYOOO

QUIT BEING SUCH A B-B- A B-

A BITCH
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Post by: TioJorge on September 19, 2013, 10:58:37 PM
 :millahhhh
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Post by: Chino on September 19, 2013, 11:31:28 PM
For as much of a misanthropic motherfucker I am, even I think that the memes of Walt Jr. are tasteless and fucked up and I hope whomsoever created them dies of AIDs after being fucked by a large hairy gorilla. But not after becoming a quadriplegic by rusty butter knife. Especially since the kid is a fantastic actor who actually has a mild case of cerebral palsy.

So yeah fuck that meme in the asshole.

The rest are awesome though. Especially the King Of The Hill one.  :rollin :lol

Do you laugh at Timmy on Southpark? Same thing.
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Post by: TioJorge on September 19, 2013, 11:41:44 PM
I think South Park is the dumbest fucking show on Earth. I've managed to sit through about half an episode, and that was year's ago. So...moot point. Either way, I'm not downing you; pretty sure it's well-known here that I am an awful, horrible human being. But even I have my 'lines', though they're quite small. One of those lines is laughing at the people who were born with disabilities and/or mental deficiencies they can do nothing about. That's probably because I've known many people who were called 'invalids' throughout my life who were a whole lot more fucking valid than most so-called 'normal' people I know. Anyway, not to go on an off-topic rant, I just thought it was kinda disgusting. Then again I think most of humanity is disgusting. So. Y'know....

Either way, no sleight to you at all, Chino.....er....unless you made the meme.  :P :police:

BACK TO KILLING FETUSES
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Post by: Chino on September 20, 2013, 10:09:46 AM
Sooo.... I was watching the early episodes last night, and a thought came into my head .... does Jesse remember how to make that gas that Walt made to knock out Crazy 8?? That'd be pretty cool if he did.
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Post by: TioJorge on September 20, 2013, 10:49:17 AM
That'd be very interesting, though I doubt it. But I have been thinking that Jesse needs to find a way to escape...otherwise it's going to be a very short-lived, torturous session of cooking for him.
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Post by: Bolsters on September 21, 2013, 05:37:16 AM
Remembering Hank Schrader: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BkFs90jJfOg

Sooo.... I was watching the early episodes last night, and a thought came into my head .... does Jesse remember how to make that gas that Walt made to knock out Crazy 8?? That'd be pretty cool if he did.
Jesse was unconscious during all of that, wasn't he?
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Post by: Dimitrius on September 21, 2013, 07:07:05 AM
Sooo.... I was watching the early episodes last night, and a thought came into my head .... does Jesse remember how to make that gas that Walt made to knock out Crazy 8?? That'd be pretty cool if he did.
Jesse was unconscious during all of that, wasn't he?
He was. Walter did that on his own and had to put a respirator on his unconscious body.
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Post by: TioJorge on September 21, 2013, 02:20:08 PM
Aw shit, that's right.  :'( I have a feeling things might end very horribly for Jesse. I mean, of course they are, but I was hoping he'd get a quick and easy death.

Not so, says Gilligan. SUFFER! FEEL THE WORST FEELS!
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Post by: RodrigoAltaf on September 22, 2013, 01:30:39 PM
 I started a BB marathon a few weeks ago, and am finally up to speed with tonight's episode. Like others jere, I' m really glad it's ending exaclty when it should. Otherwise it was gonna start to seem too implausible. Lost made sense somewhat, until the writers literally lost the plot.

 My prediction for the show is that WW and Jesse end up dead, and Walt's family gets the money.

 But hey, who trashed Walter's house??????
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 22, 2013, 01:38:54 PM
But hey, who trashed Walter's house??????
Carol
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Post by: RodrigoAltaf on September 22, 2013, 02:18:56 PM
Carol???
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Post by: sueño on September 22, 2013, 02:24:57 PM
Haven't read any of this thread but I just finished the first episode.   :hefdaddy  Fun binge watching ahead!
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 22, 2013, 02:29:28 PM
Carol???

Yes! You know, lady with the groceries? :metal
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Post by: RodrigoAltaf on September 22, 2013, 02:35:45 PM
Yeah, carol the neighnbour...was it really her though?
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 22, 2013, 02:37:27 PM
No :lol


It was probably Walt, himself!
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Post by: RodrigoAltaf on September 22, 2013, 02:46:07 PM
Like most of us, I learned to accept that nothing is too far fetched when it comes to this show.

 I'm excited with  "Better Call Saul" starting up as well. I'm hoping they give Huell more scenes. All's I'm sayin'.
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Post by: Dimitrius on September 22, 2013, 02:49:47 PM
The Saul show is set before BB so if anything, Mike could get more scenes.

It would be cool for Gus to be building his empire in the background of the Saul show.
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Post by: zerogravityfat on September 22, 2013, 04:34:19 PM
walt was totally faking the cancer comeback to get out of the questions. now he has to go back to save jesse's ass then probably kill him when he attacks with rage. then off to the sunset. ricin is for the czech drug lady or the gray matter assholes me thinks.
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Post by: Chino on September 22, 2013, 04:53:04 PM
I've been saying he cancer being back has been fake all along.
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Post by: Dimitrius on September 22, 2013, 05:04:03 PM
I don't know why he would  go through chemo again and been shown already in the flashforwards taking pills JUST FOR FAKING IT!!
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Post by: Chino on September 22, 2013, 05:06:28 PM
I don't know why he would  go through chemo again and been shown already in the flashforwards taking pills JUST FOR FAKING IT!!

But that's his character. He goes to the utmost extremes to keep the lie believable.
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Post by: Dimitrius on September 22, 2013, 05:10:35 PM
So in the flashforward, WHERE HE HAS NO FAMILY LEFT OR NO ONE TO HAVE TO KEEP THE LIE ALIVE, WHERE "HEISENGBERG" IS WRITTEN ON THE WALL OF HIS FORMER HOME he's still faking the cancer and taking pills and shit? He's THAT much of a method actor?
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Post by: Dark Castle on September 22, 2013, 06:11:19 PM
Catching up on last week's episode.

Farewell Hank :C
You were fucking awesome.
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Post by: Chino on September 22, 2013, 06:52:23 PM
My best bud just sent me the following text... "Dude. How much do you want to bet that BB ends with Jesse waking up from a dream in Mr. White's chemistry class!"
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Post by: jsem on September 22, 2013, 06:57:01 PM
Not going to happen.
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Post by: Dark Castle on September 22, 2013, 07:00:13 PM
I hate how every conspiracy theory is that one of the characters was just dreaming or is in a coma or dead and in the afterlife, it's always stupid and unoriginal and just completely retarded.
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Post by: RodrigoAltaf on September 22, 2013, 07:12:48 PM
Catching up on last week's episode.

Farewell Hank :C
You were fucking awesome.

 One of the funniest moments was Hank singing Eye of the Tiger with Walt while driving to the laundry.
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Post by: antigoon on September 22, 2013, 07:18:32 PM
THAT COUGH WAS SO FAKE AM I RIGHT
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 22, 2013, 07:26:55 PM
Man.. fuck Meth Damon and his creepy ass!
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Post by: TVC 15 on September 22, 2013, 07:49:21 PM
Fucking Todd is off the chart tonight.
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Post by: Chino on September 22, 2013, 07:49:44 PM
Andrea dying was worse than Hank :(
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Post by: antigoon on September 22, 2013, 07:54:58 PM
FAKE CHEMO TREATMENT
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Post by: orcus116 on September 22, 2013, 08:15:03 PM
I can not fucking wait till next week.
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Post by: axeman90210 on September 22, 2013, 08:17:10 PM
I may try and pull a Cartman and just freeze myself until next Sunday. Honestly, I would have liked to have seen a little more of Marie dealing with the fallout from last week, but other than that another stellar episode.
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Post by: zerogravityfat on September 22, 2013, 09:42:38 PM
FAKE CHEMO TREATMENT

Yup. He's setting up his death. Ricin is for gray matter I think.
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 22, 2013, 09:46:59 PM
I think the ricin is for Lydz
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Post by: Dimitrius on September 22, 2013, 10:03:51 PM
Oh my God he suuuuuure has kept up with his fake cancer, man!! He keeps doing chemo and even he's dropping unhealthy amounts of weight just so he can keep up that lie! Man, Daniel Day-Lewis would be proud!!
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 22, 2013, 10:17:21 PM
 :rollin
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Post by: TioJorge on September 22, 2013, 10:34:54 PM
Jesus, what a fucking incredible series. I am honestly sad because of this series' end. Truly...it's horribly sad and epic all at once. What a beautifully constructed story... :metal :'(
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Post by: KevShmev on September 22, 2013, 11:21:54 PM
Ah, the classic set-up episode.  It was pretty much impossible for tonight's episode to not be a bit underwhelming after the epic win of Ozymandias.  It kind of was, but like I said, it was the classic Breaking Bad set-up episode, and you just know next week is gonna be awesome, sad, tense and crushing all at the same time. 

I love, too, how they have made Todd, Jack, and his gang to be much, much worse than Walt has ever been.  Walt is gonna meet his end next week, and he should, but we are likely to still get the satisfaction of seeing him take down Jack and the others. 
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Post by: Dimitrius on September 22, 2013, 11:28:20 PM
But did you see Walt faking the cancer??
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Post by: TVC 15 on September 22, 2013, 11:36:35 PM
Geez, that home invasion was so unexpected.
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Post by: soundgarden on September 22, 2013, 11:39:34 PM
There's just too many loose ends right now for a standard "walt saves jesse" finish and with the re-introduction of Elliot and Gretchen adds just another.

I really don't think the ending is going to be anything vaguely expected.....
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Post by: Bolsters on September 23, 2013, 12:01:00 AM
I really like the way they used the theme song at the end of this episode. It really made it feel as though the whole show was building up to that exact moment. I also like how Flynn says to his father "why don't you just die?", mirroring when he asks him "why don't you just fucking die" in the pilot episode, very nice throwback.

Now another week waiting for Felina. :censored
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Post by: Sigz on September 23, 2013, 12:06:15 AM
Speaking of Felina, a cool possible meaning I heard a while back:

FeLiNa, or Iron, Lithium, and Sodium - blood, meth, and tears.
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Post by: KevShmev on September 23, 2013, 12:20:09 AM
There's just too many loose ends right now for a standard "walt saves jesse" finish and with the re-introduction of Elliot and Gretchen adds just another.

I really don't think the ending is going to be anything vaguely expected.....

Why would Walt save Jesse now?  Any positive feelings Walt had for Jesse are long gone.  As far as Walt is concerned, Jesse is a rat who is responsible for Hank's death.

What is interesting is how Walt has all but given up twice in the last three episodes:

-He surrounded to Hank and would have gone to jail had Jack and his crew not shown up.
-He called and gave himself and his location up to the cops tonight, but bolted once he saw the Gray Matter thing on TV, which triggered his ego once again. 

Walt is on the verge of death from the cancer; that is no doubt.  But his ego wants him to set things right, as he sees them, once and for all before he goes.

Also, it was sad tonight seeing what Walt had become: a man, all alone, without his family, without anyone, slowly dying of cancer, and so lonely, he was willing to pay someone 10 grand to spend an hour with him.  Regardless of what he did to get to where he is, it was sad.
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Post by: jsem on September 23, 2013, 08:30:28 AM
Lol, Gray Matter unleashed Heisenberg again.
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Post by: KevShmev on September 23, 2013, 02:42:17 PM
My very small criticism of last night's episode is that we didn't see enough of Walt's family struggling as a result of what he had done.  The disappearing guy telling Walt about it isn't the same.  Marie now knows for sure that Hank is dead, and we saw her for a whopping five seconds last night.  Skyler is apparently struggling to make ends meet now while living somewhere else, but we only know this because that guy told Walt. 
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Post by: TioJorge on September 23, 2013, 02:49:10 PM
With only one episode left, do you really think that a meandering montage of what we already know to be true is the best idea? They're extremely confined to a very small frame of specific story-telling. They got their point across perfectly fine and I for one would have thought it mundane for them to show all that. Even with the extended time of this episode and the next, it still feels like it's going to be pretty close. To each his own though. If we had three, four episodes left, I'd be right there with you. Sadly they don't have long.
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Post by: Chino on September 23, 2013, 02:56:08 PM
My very small criticism of last night's episode is that we didn't see enough of Walt's family struggling as a result of what he had done.  The disappearing guy telling Walt about it isn't the same. 


I kind of liked that they did it that way. It kind of put us in Walt's shoes. We found out about it in the same way he did, and he's probably feeling the same way you are. Walt offering the guy $10k to stay for an hour broke my heart. I've never been so conflicted with whether I love or hate a character.

Blurbs about last night:

- I was for some reason extremely satisfied that Lewis was mentioned one more time before the shows end. It be great if Walt mailed the package anyway, and we finally get to see what the fuck he looks like when the package arrives.

- I kind of felt bad for Saul, even though he's crooked and deceiving.

- I couldn't feel more sorry for Jesse. He tried so many times to get out. Even early on, we saw him at that job interview. Deep down, he wanted to be a good member of society who could be respected for legitimate reasons. If he had taken the offer to relocate, Andrea would still be alive.

- I hope we get to see Tod die at the hands of Jesse.

- I've really liked Walt Jr. in these last two episodes. The freak out in the office was great.

- And okay... I may have been wrong about Walt faking his cancer.
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Post by: Dimitrius on September 23, 2013, 03:07:26 PM
I don't think he wanted to be a "good member of society", it seemed to me that he wanted to be in the criminal/drug business "inner circle". He grew up watching Scarface, Goodfellas, Casino and wanted all that glitz and glamour and once he saw how the business really goes he just wanted out out out!

But his misguided loyalty to Walter kept pushing him back in and thus we have one of the most tragic arcs ever in TV!
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Post by: Chino on September 23, 2013, 03:37:07 PM
(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1186246_175611502627128_32581813_n.jpg)

hehe
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Post by: NecessaryPain on September 23, 2013, 05:48:05 PM
I'm still rooting for Walt. I for one, don't see him as this evil psychopath that so many others do. He's an ego-maniac and has done a lot of messed up shit, but he still did things for what he believed were the right reasons. He does love his family, and he did love Jesse. He's paid the price for the sins he has committed, but there's some good in him as well, even at this stage.

Jesse will be the only guy making it out of the last episode alive, IMO. He'll finally find his way out. Walt has no chance......although the way this show's written don't expect things to go to plan. I still - yes - still see Walt and Jesse helping each other out in some way before they both try to kill each other....again  :lol
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Post by: TioJorge on September 23, 2013, 06:07:25 PM
 :facepalm:

I'm just going to have to agree to immensely disagree...
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Post by: Chino on September 23, 2013, 06:16:38 PM
I think Walt is Crazy. Tod is evil.
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Post by: Dimitrius on September 23, 2013, 06:22:50 PM
Todd is a complete sociopath! I don't think there's any doubt about that!
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Post by: senecadawg2 on September 23, 2013, 07:31:08 PM
Someone needs to put Jesse out of his misery.
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Post by: TioJorge on September 23, 2013, 07:40:32 PM
Yeah, Todd is the definition of a perfect sociopath.

As for Jesse...yeah, he too needs to be put to death, but his misery is well-deserved. Anyone that thinks he's getting out of this at all is setting themselves up for disappointment. Either that, or Gilligan is going to contradict his statement of "Saul is the only one getting out alive", in reference to his cockroach-like life. It wouldn't be the first time someone straight up lied about something that would happen in their show. But I don't think he's bluffing, Jesse is simply getting his comeuppance, just as Walter is. It's pure naivety for anyone to think that Jesse is somehow more innocent simply because of his intentions. As the old saying goes...the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Jesse is fucked. Walter is fucked. They fucked themselves. Fucked themselves REAL GOOD.

Even so, I can't help but feel a slight inkling of pity for Jesse. That is to say, I did right up until his stupid, moronic, empty, rotten motherfucking brain decided to grab his tiny little balls and stand up to Todd/Jack and co. I honestly screamed at the TV at that point because I KNEW what was going to happen. It was so fucking obvious. HE HAD ANDREA'S PICTURE, TAKEN BY TODD/JACK!!! Fucking moron. He killed them. He might as well have pulled the trigger. In my eyes, he killed them just as he killed Gale. Anyone disagreeing can outline how the fuck he didn't know that they'd kill Andrea...UGH :censored :censored >:( FOOL. Oh, and Andrea is just as stupid for walking out there, knowing what Jesse does (even partly), just opened herself right up to that. Again, FOOL. But as for Walter...I'm reveling in his soon-to-be self-cremation. That motherfucker needs to burn. But not before Jack and his gang...I really hope Walt gets to use that massive weapon on them. I'd love a classic, almost-cliche firefight death.
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Post by: Dimitrius on September 23, 2013, 07:45:53 PM
(http://puu.sh/4yMcp.jpg)
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Post by: TioJorge on September 23, 2013, 07:48:52 PM
Yes.  :metal The show has ingeniously alluded to other moments of the show on numerous occasions. Gilligan and co. are amazing.

Honestly, I'm even more excited to see what he does next, as I am going to watch this man's work until he dies. This show is one beautifully woven puzzle.
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Post by: Dr. DTVT on September 23, 2013, 07:56:26 PM
I got preliminary approval to co-teach a class on Breaking Bad with a criminologist and a psychologist.  If this gets final approval, I'll feel like I'm robbing the school for part of my salary, because I'm going to enjoy this way too much.
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Post by: jsem on September 24, 2013, 06:53:12 AM
I got preliminary approval to co-teach a class on Breaking Bad with a criminologist and a psychologist.  If this gets final approval, I'll feel like I'm robbing the school for part of my salary, because I'm going to enjoy this way too much.
:letam: :metal
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Post by: GuineaPig on September 24, 2013, 08:31:49 AM
I got preliminary approval to co-teach a class on Breaking Bad with a criminologist and a psychologist.  If this gets final approval, I'll feel like I'm robbing the school for part of my salary, because I'm going to enjoy this way too much.

That's awesome.
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Post by: Heretic on September 24, 2013, 03:37:10 PM
I would so take that class.

I'm so excited for this finale. I don't even want to make predictions because I know whatever is in store is the best route to go. So pumped.
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Post by: antigoon on September 24, 2013, 04:07:42 PM
the ricin is for louis
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Post by: Sigz on September 24, 2013, 04:13:43 PM
 :lol
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 24, 2013, 07:01:17 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/redWdfS.jpg)
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Post by: orcus116 on September 24, 2013, 07:42:03 PM
That has got to be the worst forced meme ever.
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Post by: reneranucci on September 24, 2013, 08:28:12 PM
What about this one?

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/b6cc4ccd22b286c974f69ce602e73fbe/tumblr_mr7g07KOAJ1sylkpto1_500.jpg)
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Post by: Aythesryche on September 27, 2013, 10:47:02 PM
Been sick this last week and just getting over it. During my downtime, I decided to give the show a shot and see what it was like. I can't believe I watched every single episode in 5 days and just now finished ep 15. My whole head transformed into the Eye of Sauron and I'm fixed on Sundays date on my calendar.
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Post by: KevShmev on September 27, 2013, 11:18:39 PM
This Breaking Bad marathon is way too awesome.  This is like the week back in July when I first dove into the show: if I am home and awake, I am watching the Breaking Bad marathon. :lol :hat
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Post by: antigoon on September 28, 2013, 06:51:57 AM
The last thing I remember last night before falling asleep was Walter's manic howls of laughter at the end of "Crawl Space" ... fuck.

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Post by: Sigz on September 28, 2013, 10:36:38 AM
That. Fucking. Scene.
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Post by: Dimitrius on September 28, 2013, 10:40:55 AM
The last thing I remember last night before falling asleep was Walter's manic howls of laughter at the end of "Crawl Space" ... fuck.
That's quite a way to fall asleep! :lol
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Post by: Lolzeez on September 28, 2013, 02:59:30 PM
1)Walt kills Jack's gang.
2)Jesse kills Todd for revenge.
3)Huell kills Dumbledore.
4)Walter donates money to Elliot.
5)Walt Jr. kills Walt.

At least one of those will happen.
Maybe not 3.
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 29, 2013, 11:45:16 AM
Guys.. it ends. Tonight. Are you ready?
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Post by: jsem on September 29, 2013, 01:11:33 PM
ARGH. Since I live in Sweden, I'm going to have to wait til tomorrow night before I watch. It's going to be intense. Dat suspense.
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Post by: KevShmev on September 29, 2013, 01:14:33 PM
I am 100% confident that it is gonna be awesome tonight. :hat
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Post by: Lolzeez on September 29, 2013, 01:18:49 PM
ARGH. Since I live in Sweden, I'm going to have to wait til tomorrow night before I watch. It's going to be intense. Dat suspense.
Same here. It's gonna be one brutal day.
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Post by: Dark Castle on September 29, 2013, 08:15:06 PM
God Damn. What a show  :'(
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 29, 2013, 08:15:38 PM
That was amazing. Thank you.
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Post by: orcus116 on September 29, 2013, 08:15:54 PM
What an amazing episode.
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Post by: Chino on September 29, 2013, 08:18:15 PM
I am Breaking Sad.
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Post by: Heretic on September 29, 2013, 08:19:40 PM
Best show ever. What a finale.
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Post by: Dr. DTVT on September 29, 2013, 08:35:04 PM
Best show ever, yes.  Even though loose ends we're tied up, I think the finale left a lot to be desired.  Largely it was too predictable, especially in a show where predictable was not the norm.  At least that's my initial feeling.
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Post by: axeman90210 on September 29, 2013, 08:36:09 PM
Fantastic finale. Breaking Bad is alone at the top of the TV mountain for me, along with The Wire.
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Post by: Chino on September 29, 2013, 08:46:12 PM
Best show ever, yes.  Even though loose ends we're tied up, I think the finale left a lot to be desired.  Largely it was too predictable, especially in a show where predictable was not the norm.  At least that's my initial feeling.

Mine as well. The only real surprise for me in this episode was Elliot and Gretchin. I thought it was great how Walt came clean with the fact that he actually enjoyed what he was doing, as well as revealed where to find Hank and Gomez. There's still 69 million dollars hiding somewhere.
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Post by: senecadawg2 on September 29, 2013, 08:46:39 PM
Largely it was too predictable, especially in a show where predictable was not the norm.  At least that's my initial feeling.

Well said, my thoughts exactly. Wouldn't call it the best show ever though.
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Post by: antigoon on September 29, 2013, 08:47:30 PM
RIP

so sad


fuck
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Post by: antigoon on September 29, 2013, 08:47:57 PM
I don't think being predictable is a bad thing. Especially in a finale like this.
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Post by: antigoon on September 29, 2013, 08:48:53 PM
like were you expecting some huge twist or
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 29, 2013, 08:56:10 PM
It was the perfect ending.
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Post by: senecadawg2 on September 29, 2013, 08:56:18 PM
RIP

so sad


fuck

That's just it though... I didn't find it sad at all.
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 29, 2013, 08:57:21 PM
Then you have no heart >:(
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Post by: senecadawg2 on September 29, 2013, 08:58:30 PM
Sorry buddy... It was an EXCELLENT show, I'll never deny that. But I'm not sated.
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Post by: Dr. DTVT on September 29, 2013, 08:58:51 PM
But what was the point of watching the last 45 minutes if I could already see it coming?  Grey Matter was the only twist.  Wasn't expecting a big twist, just something less straight forward.

I want to know who the guy was at Marie's when she called Skyler.  Did she move on that quickly?
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Post by: senecadawg2 on September 29, 2013, 08:59:27 PM
 :lol

I was wondering the same thing.
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 29, 2013, 09:00:57 PM
Well, I will say I was disappointed I never got to see Walt Jr blast some guys with a shotgun
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Post by: zepp-head on September 29, 2013, 09:35:47 PM
But what was the point of watching the last 45 minutes if I could already see it coming?  Grey Matter was the only twist.  Wasn't expecting a big twist, just something less straight forward.

I want to know who the guy was at Marie's when she called Skyler.  Did she move on that quickly?

I guess I just figured it was some sort of law enforcement officer keeping an eye on her.
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Post by: Dimitrius on September 29, 2013, 09:39:07 PM
But what was the point of watching the last 45 minutes if I could already see it coming?  Grey Matter was the only twist.  Wasn't expecting a big twist, just something less straight forward.

I want to know who the guy was at Marie's when she called Skyler.  Did she move on that quickly?

I guess I just figured it was some sort of law enforcement officer keeping an eye on her.
Same here, she called saying about the different calls and she telling them that he'd probably be in 3 places. It made sense it was just some DEA/whatever guy there.
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Post by: KevShmev on September 29, 2013, 10:01:19 PM
Absolutely amazing finish.  Could not have been any better.

The final shot of Walt lying there dead while the camera panned up was just perfect.  I will never will be able to hear Baby Blue again without thinking of Walter White.

Best show ever. :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
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Post by: Nick on September 29, 2013, 10:02:36 PM
Not going to look at any other posts before or after this for obvious reasons, but just wanted to stop by and say due to all the buzz from every single corner of my life I've picked up seasons 1 and 2 of BB. Looking forward to starting them soon.
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Post by: orcus116 on September 29, 2013, 10:05:22 PM
Enjoy yourself but hurry before you get wrapped up in spoilers from elsewhere!
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Post by: Heretic on September 29, 2013, 10:30:50 PM
Yeah even though a lot of the finale was straightforward I think it was the only way to go. It left me very satisfied, and the shot of Walt laying there surrounded by what he truly loved was heartbreaking. However, he won. His family got the money, he and Jesse left on not-completely-wanting-to-kill-each-other terms, and he killed every person who had done him wrong in the meth business.

Walt's actions were sort of a good thing in that regard-- he took out almost all of Albuquerque's meth kingpins, and then the master kingpin at the end--himself. 
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Post by: TVC 15 on September 29, 2013, 10:33:34 PM
And Here's what happened to Huell:

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/5f24c5785e/huell-s-rules (http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/5f24c5785e/huell-s-rules)
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Post by: Bolsters on September 29, 2013, 10:42:40 PM
I thought it was a pretty run-of-the-mill episode for this series. It was satisfying, yes, but it was far less satisfying that I was hoping for. It was also, as mentioned, incredibly predictable. I'm quite underwhelmed by the episode, which is the opposite of what I was expecting.

But at least it wasn't horrible like the finale of Dexter was. :lol
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 29, 2013, 10:54:46 PM
I don't think there was a need for it to be "unpredictable". It would have been so weird for it to end in a way other than this, I think.
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Post by: KevShmev on September 29, 2013, 11:02:14 PM
I don't think there was a need for it to be "unpredictable". It would have been so weird for it to end in a way other than this, I think.

Exactly.  Ozymandias, for all intents and purposes, was the climax of the show, and these last two episodes were the epilogue.
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Post by: senecadawg2 on September 29, 2013, 11:08:29 PM
But at least it wasn't horrible like the finale of Dexter was. :lol

I know you didn't actually say anything, but just as a warning... please, please, please don't post any spoilers from other shows in this thread  :heart No harm done, but you did get me worried for a second.
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 30, 2013, 12:10:05 AM
Hey guys I'm going to start a top 20 Breaking Bad Episodes list tomorrow, if any of you people are interested!
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Post by: Kotowboy on September 30, 2013, 07:36:25 AM
Never seen a second of this show. Maybe i'll start once they're all on Netflix.

I'm not really into serials - but if it's only 62 episodes in total then it might be worth a shot.

I can't be bothered starting serials that have like 8 seasons of 24 episodes each.  **

If it's short then it's more do-able and It doesn't take a huge commitment to watch it all.



** I once tried to start watching LOST but gave up after 10 episodes as it was going nowhere.
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Post by: Heretic on September 30, 2013, 07:44:13 AM
Dude so much stuff happens even in EP 1, there's no way you'll get bored.
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Post by: Kotowboy on September 30, 2013, 08:09:21 AM
Dude so much stuff happens even in EP 1, there's no way you'll get bored.

But LOST had two great first episodes then it went downhill extremely quickly.
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Post by: KevShmev on September 30, 2013, 08:17:20 AM
Breaking Bad only gets better and better and better as it goes on.  That sounds like overhyping, but it really isn't.  After I had gotten through Season 2, my two cousins (who were instrumental in getting me to watch the show) both told me, "It only gets better," and I thought that seemed impossible, but somehow it did.
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Post by: Kotowboy on September 30, 2013, 08:22:40 AM
I do intend to watch it. The fact that's it's relatively short is a draw.

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Post by: KevShmev on September 30, 2013, 08:28:12 AM
Okay, back to spoilers.

The final shot from Crawling Space near the end of Season 4:

(http://www.mbird.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/breaking-bad-crawlspace-breaking-math-290x290.png)

The final shot of the series:

(http://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/breakingbad9.jpg?w=680&h=450&crop=1)

Both shots panned upward.  Pretty awesome stuff.
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Post by: zepp-head on September 30, 2013, 08:43:01 AM
Okay, back to spoilers.

The final shot from Crawling Space near the end of Season 4:

(http://www.mbird.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/breaking-bad-crawlspace-breaking-math-290x290.png)

The final shot of the series:

(http://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/breakingbad9.jpg?w=680&h=450&crop=1)

Both shots panned upward.  Pretty awesome stuff.

Panning is left/right, those shots zoom out :P

I don't think there was a need for it to be "unpredictable". It would have been so weird for it to end in a way other than this, I think.

Exactly.  Ozymandias, for all intents and purposes, was the climax of the show, and these last two episodes were the epilogue.

In a way, yes.  The finale was very un-Breaking Bad in the sense that it was very predictable, but I think this is the way it had to go.  If it throws in a twist ending just for the sake of having a twist then we're in the territory of ruining the whole series for everyone instead of just damaging the final episode for a few.

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Post by: Dark Castle on September 30, 2013, 08:46:12 AM
I thought that shot seemed familiar last night, just another reason as to why I love this show  :)
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Post by: Mebert78 on September 30, 2013, 09:04:38 AM
I'm letting the finale sink in before I fully comment.  I'll say this.  It was definitely somewhat predictable and not all that much of a surprise ending, but I think they did it that way on purpose.  For many seasons, Walt was able to pull off crazy stunts flawlessly -- from bombing the nursing home, to using magnets to wipe out the computer, to orchestrating hits inside of a jail.  When he really puts his mind to it, he coordinates the perfect crimes.  As he told skyler, he was "really good at it."  So, going into the finale, we all know that walt needs to kill lydia and jack's men -- and that he's extremely motivated to do so after stewing in the new hampshire cabin for all those months.  He's had more than enough time for his brilliant mind to plot it out perfectly.  That being said, of course he got the job done.  Any other outcome would have been silly, in my opinion.  Walt is a criminal genius -- and he proved it in the finale as his final crimes went off perfectly.
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Post by: KevShmev on September 30, 2013, 09:14:26 AM
Bah, you know what I meant, zepp-head. ;) :lol

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Post by: Aythesryche on September 30, 2013, 09:40:44 AM
I think the ending was fantastic. After the episode I went to that screenbid site to see if Walter Whites tag heuer was for sale. Sadly, it's not. Probably still sitting there on the pay phone.
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on September 30, 2013, 10:23:47 AM
Terrific ending to one of the best shows i've seen! Thank you Breaking Bad!  :tup
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Post by: KevShmev on September 30, 2013, 10:53:44 AM
(http://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/vulture/2013/09/28/breaking-bad-gifs/bb6.o.jpg/a_560x0.jpg)
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 30, 2013, 11:50:29 AM
What is that reflection where his hand was? It almost looks like Walt back when he was bald :metal
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Post by: Sigz on September 30, 2013, 12:08:39 PM
Yeah, I thought it was about as perfect a finale as I could have hoped for.
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Post by: KevShmev on September 30, 2013, 12:52:06 PM
What is that reflection where his hand was? It almost looks like Walt back when he was bald :metal

Exactly! Totally awesome.  I didn't catch it the first time, his reflection in the tank; I only noticed his hand and the trail of blood on the tank when his hand moved away from it.  But the second time, I saw his reflection and was like HOLY MOTHER OF GOD!!! :lol :lol
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Post by: Mebert78 on September 30, 2013, 01:00:26 PM
What is that reflection where his hand was? It almost looks like Walt back when he was bald :metal

Exactly! Totally awesome.  I didn't catch it the first time, his reflection in the tank; I only noticed his hand and the trail of blood on the tank when his hand moved away from it.  But the second time, I saw his reflection and was like HOLY MOTHER OF GOD!!! :lol :lol

What do you guys mean?  It looks like a fully bearded Walt to me with a full head of hair.
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Post by: Chino on September 30, 2013, 01:01:26 PM
We still don't know whether or not his cancer actually came back, seeing as it was a bullet wound that did him in.
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Post by: KevShmev on September 30, 2013, 01:06:53 PM

What do you guys mean?  It looks like a fully bearded Walt to me with a full head of hair.

Right, but for like a split second there, he's at an angle where he resembles his Heisenberg look.  If only for a moment. 
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Post by: TioJorge on September 30, 2013, 01:08:11 PM
Yeah, I thought it was about as perfect a finale as I could have hoped for.

This.

And OH MY GOD CHINO.  :facepalm: :lol
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Post by: KevShmev on September 30, 2013, 01:28:23 PM
So many great moments from last night alone, but what about when Walt asked Skyler to see Holly one last time?  That was absolutely heartbreaking, him seeing his daughter and knowing it would be the last time he would ever see her.  Same with when he spied on Flynn coming home.  It's a testament to the awesome writing and the off-the-charts acting of Bryan Cranston that you could still feel empathy for Walter White during those moments.
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Post by: kári on September 30, 2013, 02:18:02 PM
It's a testament to the awesome writing and the off-the-charts acting of Bryan Cranston that you could still feel empathy for Walter White during those moments.
I disagree. He's done a lot of bad shit but we as viewers have come to know him too well over the years, to not feel bad for him. It doesn't take off-the-charts writing to pull that off. Have you seen "Festen" by chance?
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Post by: Sycsa on September 30, 2013, 03:21:22 PM
My only disappointment was that I really wanted to know what exactly went down between Walt and Gretchen and why he left the company. After last week's episode I was positive it would be revealed...
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Post by: Dimitrius on September 30, 2013, 03:27:18 PM
It's never revealed, but I think it's a pretty safe bet that they were a couple and something happened between them and she got with Elliot. Walter, not bearing watching them together because of guilt or whatever left the company.


also

(http://puu.sh/4EolX.jpg)
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Post by: TioJorge on September 30, 2013, 04:01:59 PM
I think it really is that simple, Dimitri. People seem to expect that there's something big that went down, some kind of betrayal. I think Walt's ego got in the way, as it did in so many other aspects of his life, and he eventually left due to tension between her and Walt and Elliot.

Funny photos, but I really thought that they portrayed this person at the end as the true Walter White...someone who's whole, not some fractured personality. It was sad and great all at once because he was clearly happy with the ending, but still deserved every bit...I feel more bad for Walt Jr. I'm still in the 'fuck Skylar' mindset, despite her not being nearly as annoying this season as she was in the past.

But I'm about to watch it a second time so... :corn :'( :'(
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Post by: Chino on September 30, 2013, 04:04:54 PM
My only disappointment was that I really wanted to know what exactly went down between Walt and Gretchen and why he left the company. After last week's episode I was positive it would be revealed...

Obviously, Elliot went with the ho before the bro.
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Post by: orcus116 on September 30, 2013, 04:30:49 PM
We still don't know whether or not his cancer actually came back, seeing as it was a bullet wound that did him in.

C'mon son.
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Post by: antigoon on September 30, 2013, 04:32:12 PM
fuck, man
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Post by: Dimitrius on September 30, 2013, 04:34:29 PM
Wait, that HAS to be tongue-in-cheek, right?
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Post by: Chino on September 30, 2013, 04:35:10 PM
I'm just being a dick.  :lol
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Post by: Dark Castle on September 30, 2013, 04:36:14 PM
BUT, it could be possible he died from the cancer, and that the wound was not as bad as implied
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Post by: Chino on September 30, 2013, 04:43:55 PM
He might not have had cancer, and the bullet wound could have just been one of those blood bags. He faked everything and just played dead when the cops came in.  
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Post by: antigoon on September 30, 2013, 04:45:17 PM
that wasn't even walter.

walter is bald
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 30, 2013, 04:45:53 PM
Actually, he never did cook meth, and it was all just a joke on Walt Jr.
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Post by: Dark Castle on September 30, 2013, 04:49:22 PM
Walt Jr. never had Cerebral Palsy, and it was just a sham to garner pity for his mother when she goes to trial
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Post by: chrisbDTM on September 30, 2013, 04:59:42 PM
that song created such a cool mood to end it on

"baby blue" by badfinger
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Post by: Dimitrius on September 30, 2013, 05:09:43 PM
I've seen a few people griping about it, as with every other BB song choice, I really liked it!

Also, about the name of the finale, I read someone posted some reasoning behind it (I think it was Ian) and while Gilligan has said once or twice that an anagram of finale I read this very interesting thing today:

(http://puu.sh/4EsPu.png)
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Post by: jsem on September 30, 2013, 05:23:46 PM
My take on this last episode: a fitting ending to the series. And what a great series it has been. Just got better and better as it went on IMO.
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Post by: chrisbDTM on September 30, 2013, 05:28:28 PM
lyrics to the last song in the series (baby blue by badfinger):

Guess I got what I deserve
Kept you waiting there, too long my love
All that time, without a word
Didn't know you'd think, that I'd forget, or I'd regret
The special love I have for you, my Baby Blue

All the days became so long
Did you really think, I'd do you wrong
Dixie, when I let you go
Thought you'd realize, that I would know, I would show
The special love I have for you, my Baby Blue

What can I do, what can I say
Except that I want you by my side
How can I show, you, show me a way
Don't you know, the times I tried
Guess that's all I have to say
Except the feeling just gets stronger, everyday
Just one thing, before I go

Take good care, baby, let me know, let it grow
The special love, you have for me, my Dixie dear
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Post by: antigoon on September 30, 2013, 05:44:29 PM
I've seen a few people griping about it, as with every other BB song choice, I really liked it!

Also, about the name of the finale, I read someone posted some reasoning behind it (I think it was Ian) and while Gilligan has said once or twice that an anagram of finale I read this very interesting thing today:

(http://puu.sh/4EsPu.png)

the song plays in the car walter steals and i believe he hums it when he's building the machine gun contraption
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Post by: zepp-head on September 30, 2013, 10:43:10 PM
I've seen a few people griping about it, as with every other BB song choice, I really liked it!

Also, about the name of the finale, I read someone posted some reasoning behind it (I think it was Ian) and while Gilligan has said once or twice that an anagram of finale I read this very interesting thing today:

(http://puu.sh/4EsPu.png)

Amazing.
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Post by: KevShmev on September 30, 2013, 11:10:56 PM
Is it just me or does anyone find the final shot of Walt dying on the floor absolutely crushing?  Don't get me wrong, it was the perfect ending, and I wouldn't have wanted it to end any other way, but just that shot of him dying as the camera zooms out (or whatever :lol) just crushes me every time I watch it.  It's like, it is so heartbreaking, but I can't help but wanna see it again. I've probably watched the final two minutes 10 times in the last 24 hours and it destroys me every time. :|
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Post by: Outcrier on October 01, 2013, 02:51:34 AM
Ended the same way as my favorite anime (FMA Brotherhood)... Perfect but i didn't was totally satisfied  :-\
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Post by: GuineaPig on October 01, 2013, 03:20:46 AM
I was sort of meh on the episode.  Felt kind of like filling in the blanks.  Enjoyable, but perfunctory and functional.
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Post by: RodrigoAltaf on October 01, 2013, 05:15:40 AM
 I for one am completely happy with the final episode, and thought they did the right thing by finishing it off on Season 5. Anything more than that would be overkill and implausible. The way it ended was perfect, with the final episode neither dragging not rushing to tell us each character´s demise. Walt got what he deserved, and the authors left us just the right amount of dots to connect at the end. We know he ended on a sad note, but did he survive prison, or was he dead on the scene? It could be that he was hospitalized and later sent to jail, or maybe he went to the hospital and succumbed to cancer...all we know is that it ended badly for him.
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Post by: zerogravityfat on October 01, 2013, 06:10:25 AM
After the credits, walter jr drops the crutches then starts walking normally towards 5 barrels, looks down and picks up a few stacks of hundreds out of 69 million.
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Post by: RodrigoAltaf on October 01, 2013, 06:40:54 AM
After the credits, walter jr drops the crutches then starts walking normally towards 5 barrels, looks down and picks up a few stacks of hundreds out of 69 million.

 That would have been awesome!
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Post by: Marion Crane on October 01, 2013, 08:39:12 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1381195_10151776595068999_576339249_n.jpg)
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Post by: SomeoneLikeHim on October 01, 2013, 09:11:38 AM
Ended the same way as my favorite anime (FMA Brotherhood)... Perfect but i didn't was totally satisfied  :-\
I think both endings were perfectly satisfying :biggrin:
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Post by: Dr. DTVT on October 01, 2013, 09:40:07 AM
It's never revealed, but I think it's a pretty safe bet that they were a couple and something happened between them and she got with Elliot. Walter, not bearing watching them together because of guilt or whatever left the company.


They did explained why Walt sold his share, Walt sold his stake because he needed the money for starting his family.  As for Walt and Gretchen, some flames burn out and it looks like they parted on good terms.  Not all ended relationships end in hate. 
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Post by: 7StringedBeast on October 01, 2013, 10:06:08 AM
Bah, you know what I meant, zepp-head. ;) :lol

You are both wrong.  That last shot cranes up.  A zoom is an optical thing with the lens changing focal lengths.  that last shot, the lens was fixed in the same focal length while the camera physically moves away from the subject. 

/filmguy   ;)
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Post by: Dimitrius on October 01, 2013, 10:15:46 AM
It's never revealed, but I think it's a pretty safe bet that they were a couple and something happened between them and she got with Elliot. Walter, not bearing watching them together because of guilt or whatever left the company.


They did explained why Walt sold his share, Walt sold his stake because he needed the money for starting his family.  As for Walt and Gretchen, some flames burn out and it looks like they parted on good terms.  Not all ended relationships end in hate. 
He didn't say that exactly, he said to Jesse that sold his shares for a few months of rent. He never said it was because of his family, I thought he said that in a equivalent sense. Like "I bought that for x money or 2 plane tickets" sort of thing.
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Post by: toro on October 01, 2013, 12:41:22 PM
It's never revealed, but I think it's a pretty safe bet that they were a couple and something happened between them and she got with Elliot. Walter, not bearing watching them together because of guilt or whatever left the company.


They did explained why Walt sold his share, Walt sold his stake because he needed the money for starting his family.  As for Walt and Gretchen, some flames burn out and it looks like they parted on good terms.  Not all ended relationships end in hate.
It was explained that he left her during a vacation and then he sold his shares.
So Gretchen and Elliot got together after Walt left the company.
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Post by: zepp-head on October 01, 2013, 02:52:15 PM
Bah, you know what I meant, zepp-head. ;) :lol

You are both wrong.  That last shot cranes up.  A zoom is an optical thing with the lens changing focal lengths.  that last shot, the lens was fixed in the same focal length while the camera physically moves away from the subject. 

/filmguy   ;)

Burn!  :lol

I'm a film guy too but on the sound end.
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Post by: Chino on October 01, 2013, 02:56:13 PM
I was wondering what the significance of Walt leaving the watch on top of the phone was, so I Googled it. Apparently they forgot to have WW wear it when they filmed the diner scene for S5E01. They had him take it off while filming this episode so people wouldn't bitch about a continuity error  :lol
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Post by: TioJorge on October 01, 2013, 03:27:09 PM
Holy shit that's fucking awesome.  :rollin :metal :metal Now that is the kind of attention to detail I like to see.
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Post by: Outcrier on October 01, 2013, 03:51:17 PM
Ended the same way as my favorite anime (FMA Brotherhood)... Perfect but i didn't was totally satisfied  :-\
I think both endings were perfectly satisfying :biggrin:

The ending that most satisfied me was the one from Code Geass, Okarin  :tup
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Post by: SomeoneLikeHim on October 01, 2013, 03:55:50 PM
Ended the same way as my favorite anime (FMA Brotherhood)... Perfect but i didn't was totally satisfied  :-\
I think both endings were perfectly satisfying :biggrin:

The ending that most satisfied me was the one from Code Geass, Okarin  :tup
Now that is one fine ending :metal But enough about anime, there's another thread for that :)
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Post by: reneranucci on October 01, 2013, 05:52:00 PM
The ending was good, adequate to the series.

A couple of loose ends I would like to have more information above:

- How and when did Walter exactly poisoned Brock? The kid shows resentment to him, but I can't find any indication of any chance that Walt had to do it.
- What happens to Brock after Andrea is killed?

I would have like the series to explore more about Walt's life at graduate school and his relationship with Gretchen. The scene where they were describing the composition of the human body is one of the most beautiful in the series. And watching those episodes again, it is clear to me that Walter absolutely hates Gretchen.
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Post by: reneranucci on October 01, 2013, 06:09:33 PM
THIS IS A CRAZY THEORY, BUT BEAR WITH ME, PLEASE:

Taking into account all the movie lovers we have in this forum, it surprises me that no one has mentioned that many scenes of the last episode are mini-homages to scenes from other movies. I made this discovery myself, and I don't think my theory is too far-fetched. Of course, these examples could be only be coincidences, but the way the scenes are built and shot makes me think that they're intentional. It would be nice if other people could find other references:

- Walt getting the car keys: a clear allusion to Terminator 2, where John Connor shows the Terminator how to find the keys to steal a car. Again, it might be a coincidence, but by the way the scene was shot, when Walter enters the car, I immediately said to myself "he'll find the keys behind the rear mirror". It immediately rang a bell.

- Jesse building the wooden box: this is a reference to a previous episode where Jesse tells how much he worked on the box, and that he gave it to his mother. He then says that's a lie and that he actually exchanged it for narcotics. The carpenter, the music, the clothes Jesse is wearing and the color of that scene obviously reminded me of Jesus being portrayed as a carpenter in many movies. The way Jesse reclines to watch his finished work is almost exactly the same that at 00:06 of this scene of the Passion of the Christ : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzzVwci8qJY

- Walt talking to Elliot: "Elliott, if we're gonna go that way, you'll need a bigger knife". Jaws, anybody?

- Jesse using the handcuffs to strangle Todd: this is the most obvious one. Anton Chigurh did the same to a police officer at the beginning of No Country for Old Men http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_9KNP9I6YA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_9KNP9I6YA) It was so obvious to me that when Todd was looking through the window I told myself "Jesse should pull off an Anton Chigurh on Todd".

- There is a couple of scenes I know I've seen in other movies. When Walt extends his arms widely to close the Schwarz house's door, I know I've seen that somewhere else. Again, it's not only him closing the doors, but the way he extends his arms while the shot is on his back. The other is when he leaves his watch over the phone. We have an explanation of why he did that, but I know I've seen that somewhere else. It wasn't a watch in the other movie, but again, the shot is similar.

- Walt faking his cancer: I´m sorry, this only happens in Breaking Bad.

Does anybody agree with me, or am I crazy? Am I reading too much on the scenes? Can anybody find other scenes?

 
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Post by: zepp-head on October 01, 2013, 06:10:17 PM
Walt gave Brock a lollipop or a sucker at some point, I'm a little hazy on the details, but it's the only time it could have happened.

I have to imagine Jesse reunites with Brock at some point.
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Post by: antigoon on October 01, 2013, 06:10:39 PM
The poisoning happened off-camera.
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Post by: Dimitrius on October 01, 2013, 06:44:42 PM
I don't know if you're reading too much into the episode, rene, but I definitely said to my friends "Walt watched T2" when he got the car keys. :lol
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Post by: reneranucci on October 01, 2013, 06:57:48 PM
I don't know if you're reading too much into the episode, rene, but I definitely said to my friends "Walt watched T2" when he got the car keys. :lol
And Jesse watched No Country for Old Men . Actually, it wouldn't surprise me if that movie was in heavy rotation in Uncle Jack's movie nights  :lol
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Post by: Sigz on October 01, 2013, 06:59:03 PM
None of those are really 'homages' for the most part - certainly an homage requires referencing a scene that is 'iconic' or recognizable in some way.

The keys in the visor thing is a common trope (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KeyUnderTheDoormat), the carpentry bit is something that basically every carpenter in every woodworking scene in every movie ever has done, handcuff strangling is another common trope,  (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HandyCuffs)and closing the double doors is a shot seen all over. It was in the last season of Game of Thrones, you see it in reverse when Aragorn returns to Edoras in The Two Towers, and more. It's just a dramatic shot, nothing more.

The Jaws line is also a line that sounds very much like something Mike would say. Or maybe Walt just watched Crocodile Dundee on the drive to ABQ. Or maybe a whole combination of them.
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Post by: Chino on October 01, 2013, 07:48:03 PM
I don't know if you're reading too much into the episode, rene, but I definitely said to my friends "Walt watched T2" when he got the car keys. :lol

I thought of Independence Day
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Post by: KevShmev on October 01, 2013, 10:11:10 PM
I was wondering what the significance of Walt leaving the watch on top of the phone was, so I Googled it. Apparently they forgot to have WW wear it when they filmed the diner scene for S5E01. They had him take it off while filming this episode so people wouldn't bitch about a continuity error  :lol

Plus, it made sense, since Jesse had given him the watch for his 51st, so ditching the watch was like severing his last tie with Jesse (at the time).


- What happens to Brock after Andrea is killed?
 

He likely gets raised either in a foster home or by his grandma.  IIRC, his grandma briefly appeared at one point and didn't like Jesse very much, so either she got custody of him or he went into a foster home.
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Post by: KevShmev on October 01, 2013, 10:14:06 PM
Question: When is the exact moment when Walter dies?  Some friends and I had a fun discussion about that.  The three theories:

1. He died before hitting the ground.
2. He died shortly after hitting the ground (you can almost see his eyes go from open when he is lying there to closed, although it is hard to say for sure).
3. He died the second the screen went black (about 55 seconds after he hits the ground; the screen stays black for several seconds before the final credit rolls).

Number 1 was my pick.
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Post by: Bolsters on October 01, 2013, 10:17:05 PM
My impression when I watched the episode was number 2.
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Post by: senecadawg2 on October 01, 2013, 10:34:48 PM
My impression when I watched the episode was number 2.

Me too...


Also, I've decided that I refuse to believe in a happy ending for Jessie. Not to say that that's exactly where VG is leading us... But having Jessie escape alive did seem to lessen what was, otherwise, a tragic ending. Still, like I said, I'm not buying it. Everything Jessie cared about was destroyed, with the exception of the recently orphaned Brock. And given everything we know about Jessie, when faced with depression, he most likely met his end at the hand of an overdose. At least, that's how I'll always envisage the end of his arc.
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Post by: El Barto on October 01, 2013, 10:48:31 PM
He was quite twitchy when he hit the ground (his face and his right hand in particular), but I don't think that means much. The cut to black seemed to be more of a musical cue than anything else. Also, Johnny assumed he was dead right off the bat. Notice how most of them continue their sweep while two stay back to cover him, but neither check him for a gun or a pulse. So basically, who the hell knows. I'm gonna go with number 2, but I don't think the eyes close; the spasms just make it look like they might.


So anyhoo, just wrapped it up and I think the last 8 episodes were probably better than the first 5 1/2 seasons combined. The necessity of wrapping things up seems to have lit a fire under their ass, causing them to really crank the narrative up a notch.

Now, here's the thing that bugs me. Am I the only one who thought Hank acted like a real asshole upon discovering that he'd been fooled? In fact, I think most of them did, but Hank in particular. As I see it, he took the whole thing way too personally. Yeah, Walt really bamboozled him, but I think I'd be more interested in the details than going all Khan on WW. As soon as he figured it out, his career was over, he was going to go down in disgrace, and he might well get implicated in the whole thing once a staggeringly thorough investigation is complete. At that point, it was time to cut his losses and find the best way out for everybody. Taking the time to talk things through and gain some insight would have been a far more appropriate response than just assuming all of the worst possibilities and getting all blood-lusty. Were it me, I probably would have belted him once in the nose, and then sat down to talk the whole thing out over a couple of beers. Finding out about Gus, and Beddiker, and the other miscellaneous bodies would have been more important, I think. And in the process he would have discovered that a lot of what he assumes about "Heisenberg" isn't really the case.

I was also disappointed to see Jesse get away. I never really had much against him until he turned snitch. If he couldn't burn the house down, fine, but he should have told Hank to go fuck himself and waited for another chance. Get your revenge or die trying, but don't go to the fucking cops.

Most of Walt's family was completely worthless. His wife and sister-in-law were always annoying and troublesome, and his son was generally pretty miserable. The final straw being calling 911 and saying it was Walt who pulled the knife and was running amok. I say fuck all of them.

Which is the most interesting irony of all. The part of the entire story that most interested me was seeing a sympathetic and generally likeable fellow very gradually turn into a vicious, psychopathic bastard. Yet in the end, Walt was actually the only one of the lot that I actually think was worth a fuck. Not because he redeemed himself; that certainly didn't happen. Just because he was the one who almost always did the right thing under the given circumstances. While all of the rest of them failed miserably in that regard, Walt usually made the strong move, and in the end he was the only actual winner; the only one who actually accomplished exactly what he wanted to. He lived a little longer than he expected, but more importantly he really lived. Plus, the family is going to get 9 million bucks, despite their bitching, whining and snarkyness. The fact that those awful people are going to living off of blood money without even realizing actually makes me somewhat happy.
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Post by: KevShmev on October 01, 2013, 11:46:59 PM
I think the way Hank acted was pretty consistent with the way he always acted.  Factor in how pissed he was about being duped, and the way he acted didn't surprise me at all.  Remember that when he showed Walt Gale's book about WW and all that (the night they had dinner at Hank and Marie's, when they told them the b.s. gambling story...early in Season 4, I think), when Walt said, "It sounds like you got him," in reference to Gale/Heisenberg being killed, Hank's reply was that he wanted to be the one who caught him and slapped the cuffs on him.  Hank had that big ego thing, and he always wanted to be "the man," the one who did it all.  And that was ultimately his downfall, which was a shame since his cop instincts were pretty damn good.

As for Jesse, I was happy he got away.  He was always in over his head.  He never wanted to be a part of that world to the extent that Walt pulled him into.  He struck me as just a dumb, young kid who wanted to sell crystal and make some easy fat stacks.  Killing anyone or anything like that was never part of the equation, in his mind, and he was basically dragged into that kind of thing by Walt (like, how Walt insisting on expanding their territory is what got Combo killed and started the ball rolling in that direction).  And considering the mental anguish he went through, from the deaths of Jane, Gale, Drew Sharp, and Andrea, to the hell he went through for months being held prisoner by Todd, I'd say he more than paid for his sins.

Vince Gilligan was on The Colbert Report last night, and when asked by Colbert what the worst thing Walt ever did was, I was stunned by his answer.  He said that Walt throwing it in Jesse's face that he watched Jane die was the worst thing.  All I could think was, "How is that worse than poisoning a child?"  Yes, Walt did have redeeming qualities, and he was by and large a likable character despite his many flaws, but poisoning Brock was a reprehensible, indefensible act.  But I honestly think some don't hold that against Walt to the extent they should because a) we never saw his giving him the poison, b) we never saw Brock suffering (we only saw a worried Andrea and Jesse at the hospital, and c) we were so wanting Walt to kill Gus at the end of 4 before Gus could kill him that I think some probably looked at Walt poisoning Brock to get Jesse back on his side, which was a must in order to defeat Gus, as a means to an end.  Sad, but I think that is true for a lot of people.
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Post by: El Barto on October 02, 2013, 12:19:28 AM
I think the way Hank acted was pretty consistent with the way he always acted.  Factor in how pissed he was about being duped, and the way he acted didn't surprise me at all.  Remember that when he showed Walt Gale's book about WW and all that (the night they had dinner at Hank and Marie's, when they told them the b.s. gambling story...early in Season 4, I think), when Walt said, "It sounds like you got him," in reference to Gale/Heisenberg being killed, Hank's reply was that he wanted to be the one who caught him and slapped the cuffs on him.  Hank had that big ego thing, and he always wanted to be "the man," the one who did it all.  And that was ultimately his downfall, which was a shame since his cop instincts were pretty damn good.
I pretty much agree with this, but that doesn't change the fact that he was wrong. Like I said, he took it too personally. Add to that, those good cop instincts didn't help him out any, either. From my perspective, and I thought this for a while, he really drank the Nancy Reagan Kool-Aid. He really believed in the war on drugs, where most cops pretty much don't. Factor that in with the ego issues, and I suppose it's not at all surprising that he got so crazed about it, but that doesn't negate the mistake.

A few more things about Hank. I'll point out that based on what he thought he knew about Walt, going after him with nothing but Gomez (who I actually did like) was a stupid thing to do. A big strike against those cop instincts.

While his ventilation didn't bother me one bit, I will say that I'm a huge fan of a dignified death, and his was excellent. At least the dude got his execution right.

The one thing that bothers me about Walt's demise is that everybody thinks he killed Hank. Walt was a bastard, and his own faults certainly led to Hank's offing, but in his own way Walt did absolutely everything he could to try and save him. He offered everything he made, which was intended for his family, in exchange for Hank's life, and in the end even his own worthless family thinks he murdered him. That's a shame.

And I think I agree with VG. Telling Jesse he watched Jane die probably was the worst thing he did. Letting her die might be second, but she was pretty much a cunt anyway. As for Brock, I think the assumption is that there was never really any danger. Lilly of the Valley is actually used as a folk remedy, so it stands to reason that somebody with Walt's chemistry skills could refine it in such a way that it would cause effects that looked far more severe than they actually were. Then Jesse runs in screaming about ricin and that ratchets up the tension. Walt certainly exploited the kid, but I don't think he was ever close to killing him.
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Post by: Sigz on October 02, 2013, 12:24:12 AM
As for Brock, I think the assumption is that there was never really any danger. Lilly of the Valley is actually used as a folk remedy, so it stands to reason that somebody with Walt's chemistry skills could refine it in such a way that it would cause effects that looked far more severe than they actually were. Then Jesse runs in screaming about ricin and that ratchets up the tension. Walt certainly exploited the kid, but I don't think he was ever close to killing him.

Along with this is the matter of necessity. Walt felt it was necessary to get Jesse on his side by poisoning Brock, however rubbing it in was entirely an act of malice. He had already sentenced Jesse to death, but decided just to crush him a little bit more before the end. In reality, it's one of the few truly purposeless things Walt has done.
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Post by: 7StringedBeast on October 02, 2013, 12:29:38 AM
I think the way Hank acted was pretty consistent with the way he always acted.  Factor in how pissed he was about being duped, and the way he acted didn't surprise me at all.  Remember that when he showed Walt Gale's book about WW and all that (the night they had dinner at Hank and Marie's, when they told them the b.s. gambling story...early in Season 4, I think), when Walt said, "It sounds like you got him," in reference to Gale/Heisenberg being killed, Hank's reply was that he wanted to be the one who caught him and slapped the cuffs on him.  Hank had that big ego thing, and he always wanted to be "the man," the one who did it all.  And that was ultimately his downfall, which was a shame since his cop instincts were pretty damn good.
I pretty much agree with this, but that doesn't change the fact that he was wrong. Like I said, he took it too personally. Add to that, those good cop instincts didn't help him out any, either. From my perspective, and I thought this for a while, he really drank the Nancy Reagan Kool-Aid. He really believed in the war on drugs, where most cops pretty much don't. Factor that in with the ego issues, and I suppose it's not at all surprising that he got so crazed about it, but that doesn't negate the mistake.

A few more things about Hank. I'll point out that based on what he thought he knew about Walt, going after him with nothing but Gomez (who I actually did like) was a stupid thing to do. A big strike against those cop instincts.

While his ventilation didn't bother me one bit, I will say that I'm a huge fan of a dignified death, and his was excellent. At least the dude got his execution right.

The one thing that bothers me about Walt's demise is that everybody thinks he killed Hank. Walt was a bastard, and his own faults certainly led to Hank's offing, but in his own way Walt did absolutely everything he could to try and save him. He offered everything he made, which was intended for his family, in exchange for Hank's life, and in the end even his own worthless family thinks he murdered him. That's a shame.

And I think I agree with VG. Telling Jesse he watched Jane die probably was the worst thing he did. Letting her die might be second, but she was pretty much a cunt anyway. As for Brock, I think the assumption is that there was never really any danger. Lilly of the Valley is actually used as a folk remedy, so it stands to reason that somebody with Walt's chemistry skills could refine it in such a way that it would cause effects that looked far more severe than they actually were. Then Jesse runs in screaming about ricin and that ratchets up the tension. Walt certainly exploited the kid, but I don't think he was ever close to killing him.

Regarding Jane.  I always interpreted it as Walt doing what was necessary to save Jesse's life.  By letting Jane die, he knew he could get Jesse away from Heroin.  With Jane alive and Jesse in love with her, he would surely have gone down a path leading to his demise via heroin.  Walt let Jane die to save Jesse's life.
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Post by: Dimitrius on October 02, 2013, 07:13:22 AM
No way! Walt let Jane die because she blackmailed him and was getting in the way of Jesse cooking with him.

And it may be a shame for Walt's family (and everyone else) to think he killed Hank while he did everything possible to save him, but would anyone believe him after what he did to Gus? We do because we saw what he did to save him but Skyler, Marie, Walt Jr., the rest of the world doesn't know and will never know, so there's really no way for him to be "redeemed" of that.
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Post by: Chino on October 02, 2013, 07:34:05 AM
No way! Walt let Jane die because she blackmailed him and was getting in the way of Jesse cooking with him.


Definitely. Remember how Jesse was ready to get up and leave with her to go live somewhere else?

I was reading last night that that scene was suppose to play out differently. In the original script, Walt sneaks into the bedroom and Jane is on her side when she starts throwing up. Walt rolled her on her back intentionally so she'd choke to death. I like the version we saw better, mainly because Walt cried and we felt that he had at least a little bit of humility.
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Post by: GuineaPig on October 02, 2013, 08:13:00 AM
I think it's better that way, at least for where the show was then. 
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Post by: TimmyHiggy on October 02, 2013, 08:30:25 AM
This has been the only TV show where I feel a pang of sadness that its over. I listened to "baby blue" and "crystal blue persuasion" earlier today and it really hit home how much I will miss it.
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Post by: KevShmev on October 02, 2013, 08:55:23 AM

A few more things about Hank. I'll point out that based on what he thought he knew about Walt, going after him with nothing but Gomez (who I actually did like) was a stupid thing to do. A big strike against those cop instincts. 

Nah, that was a tactical error, not an instinctual one.

The one thing that bothers me about Walt's demise is that everybody thinks he killed Hank. Walt was a bastard, and his own faults certainly led to Hank's offing, but in his own way Walt did absolutely everything he could to try and save him. He offered everything he made, which was intended for his family, in exchange for Hank's life, and in the end even his own worthless family thinks he murdered him. That's a shame.

True, but Walt pretty much lost any benefit of the doubt with anyone he cared about, which was of his own doing.  However, he did tell Skyler in the last episode that the men he was gonna take care of were the ones who killed Hank.  He didn't explicitly say, "I didn't kill Hank," but considering how honest she could tell he was being in that, their final conversation, it is very possible that she will go forward thinking that Walt was not the man who actually killed Hank, even if he still shares a ton of culpability for it.

As for Brock, I think the assumption is that there was never really any danger. Lilly of the Valley is actually used as a folk remedy, so it stands to reason that somebody with Walt's chemistry skills could refine it in such a way that it would cause effects that looked far more severe than they actually were. Then Jesse runs in screaming about ricin and that ratchets up the tension. Walt certainly exploited the kid, but I don't think he was ever close to killing him.

Along with this is the matter of necessity. Walt felt it was necessary to get Jesse on his side by poisoning Brock, however rubbing it in was entirely an act of malice. He had already sentenced Jesse to death, but decided just to crush him a little bit more before the end. In reality, it's one of the few truly purposeless things Walt has done.

True.  Therein lies the difference with regards to intent: he poisoned Brock basically cause he needed Jesse's help to save his own life; it was self-preservation.  He told Jesse about Jane simply as one last FU to Jesse before he was gonna be taken away to be tortured and then killed.

Walt let Jane die because she blackmailed him and was getting in the way of Jesse cooking with him.

Exactly.  Plus, she knew everything about Walt, thanks to Jesse's big mouth telling her, so Walt viewed her as someone who would always be out there and could out him at any time, so while his natural instincts were to try and help (like when he hurried around to her side of the bed with his hands outstretched, like he was gonna help her), the pragmatic part of his criminal self then kicked in and he realized that her dying was best for Jesse, their business, and most importantly, himself.
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Post by: GuineaPig on October 02, 2013, 09:20:55 AM
I don't even think Walt let her die for one specific reason or another.  He let her die because it was simply the easy thing to do.
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Post by: Chino on October 02, 2013, 09:44:29 AM
I don't even think Walt let her die for one specific reason or another.  He let her die because it was simply the easy thing to do.

I don't agree with this. Walt's character was not the type who would just do something because it was easy. Everything he did was extremely calculated (even if in the moment) and weighed as an outcome of what his goals were at the time.
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on October 02, 2013, 09:45:50 AM
Yeah, Walt probably thought, "Oh shit! Oh...well if I just let her die, she'll be out of the way. Saves me the trouble.  :biggrin:"
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Post by: Dimitrius on October 02, 2013, 03:18:03 PM
I don't even think Walt let her die for one specific reason or another.  He let her die because it was simply the easy thing to do.

I don't agree with this. Walt's character was not the type who would just do something because it was easy. Everything he did was extremely calculated (even if in the moment) and weighed as an outcome of what his goals were at the time.
Exactly! Like faking cancer!
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Post by: Chino on October 02, 2013, 03:21:29 PM
I don't even think Walt let her die for one specific reason or another.  He let her die because it was simply the easy thing to do.

I don't agree with this. Walt's character was not the type who would just do something because it was easy. Everything he did was extremely calculated (even if in the moment) and weighed as an outcome of what his goals were at the time.
Exactly! Like faking cancer!

Precisely. Michael Scolfield did a similar thing in Prison Break. He had some guy sneak in a medication that would false-positive him for some illness. It gave him access to the medical facility on site.
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Post by: antigoon on October 02, 2013, 05:14:51 PM
I don't even think Walt let her die for one specific reason or another.  He let her die because it was simply the easy thing to do.

I don't agree with this. Walt's character was not the type who would just do something because it was easy. Everything he did was extremely calculated (even if in the moment) and weighed as an outcome of what his goals were at the time.
Well, he became a lot more impulsive as the series went on.
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Post by: kári on October 03, 2013, 10:54:42 AM
Something I've been wondering (probably already asked/answered before): Why did Walt become a high school teacher? He may have been depressed etc over the Gray Matter loss, but why did he not just start another company? Or do something more useful?
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Post by: Big Hath on October 03, 2013, 11:38:10 AM
Something I've been wondering (probably already asked/answered before): Why did Walt become a high school teacher? He may have been depressed etc over the Gray Matter loss, but why did he not just start another company? Or do something more useful?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGzrUr6Id7U

start watching at 13:00.  Cranston has a great explanation on why he became a teacher, specifically at 17:16 he begins the explanation, but the lead up to it is good background info.
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Post by: Tom Bombadil on October 03, 2013, 09:41:53 PM
Just got season 5 part 2 yesterday and I finished about a half hour ago. Completely blown away.
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Post by: KevShmev on October 03, 2013, 10:59:16 PM
I can only imagine.  Oh wait, I don't have to.  I spend the last 2 1/2 months being blown away by it. :lol :hat
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on October 03, 2013, 11:42:57 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/bigOOlB.jpg)

I don't really look like Todd do I? :yeahright
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Post by: 7StringedBeast on October 03, 2013, 11:45:08 PM
Lol I was pretty sure that was the same actor just a little younger.  Spitting image I say.
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Post by: TioJorge on October 03, 2013, 11:54:10 PM
You're definitely not as creeper-pedo looking as Todd. Er..not to say you do at all!  :lol But there's a general..likeness.
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Post by: El Barto on October 04, 2013, 12:16:58 AM
I actually thought Todd was a real good character. I mean, I wouldn't go bowling with him or anything, but he was completely dispassionate and always focused on the matter at hand. Generally speaking, the sort of guy you'd want around in a clutch situation.
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Post by: TioJorge on October 04, 2013, 12:23:26 AM
Yes, he became a very interesting character. One of my favorite antagonists. Came out of nowhere, too... I really didn't expect him to develop at all; let alone into the near main antagonist.
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Post by: kári on October 04, 2013, 01:48:12 AM
Something I've been wondering (probably already asked/answered before): Why did Walt become a high school teacher? He may have been depressed etc over the Gray Matter loss, but why did he not just start another company? Or do something more useful?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGzrUr6Id7U

start watching at 13:00.  Cranston has a great explanation on why he became a teacher, specifically at 17:16 he begins the explanation, but the lead up to it is good background info.
Thanks. :) Great video!

In regards to Todd: I didn't really get his character, because all I could think of was the role of Landry he played in Friday Night Lights.
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Post by: Mebert78 on October 04, 2013, 11:28:55 AM
"Keep typing, bitch!": http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/429398/september-30-2013/sign-off---more--breaking-bad-
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Post by: KevShmev on October 04, 2013, 01:32:49 PM
(http://media.zenfs.com/en_US/News/TheWrap/_Breaking_Bad_s__Walter_White_Gets-4d0cff7bfaa076961e420faa5f338f3b)

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Post by: zerogravityfat on October 04, 2013, 01:39:56 PM
9 million dollar donations welcome.
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Post by: KevShmev on October 11, 2013, 09:35:34 AM
Check this out:

http://vimeo.com/76287333#

Pretty awesome.
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Post by: Tom Bombadil on October 11, 2013, 10:11:23 AM
Holy shit, that was incredible!!
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Post by: Mebert78 on October 11, 2013, 12:15:26 PM
Link: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv-movies/breaking-bad-underwear-sells-9-900-auction-article-1.1482783

Leaves of Grass goes for $65K, Hector's bell goes for $26K, Walt's undies go for $10K.
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Post by: RodrigoAltaf on October 11, 2013, 01:57:00 PM
 I´m trying hard to find a .gif of Skinny Pete looking at the camera spreading his arms when he´s going into Tuco´s den. Does anyone have an idea where I can find it?
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Post by: KevShmev on October 11, 2013, 02:12:07 PM
No idea.

But this picture, from Conan a few weeks ago, is awesome:

(http://cdn.teamcococdn.com/assets/image/640x360/frame:1/sig:8a52f3b8fee1d0b11e457084048db66b/0467_guest_1_c-5240f8487d920.jpeg)

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Post by: Kotowboy on October 11, 2013, 07:32:01 PM
So I bit the bullet and watched all of series 1 in one evening. Pretty good.

It'll be interesting to see where it goes from here. I'm glad there's not that many episodes.

I can't see the premise having that many threads.

Gonna start series 2 soon.
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Post by: El Barto on October 11, 2013, 07:55:40 PM
So I bit the bullet and watched all of series 1 in one evening. Pretty good.

It'll be interesting to see where it goes from here. I'm glad there's not that many episodes.

I can't see the premise having that many threads.

Gonna start series 2 soon.
Yeah, I could blow through most of it in very large chunks. However, season 2 was dark and heavy enough that it'd occasionally stop me dead in my tracks. There were a couple of episodes that just made me call it a night and turn on the Simpsons for a while.  :lol
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Post by: ishak540m on October 12, 2013, 12:54:38 AM
5 of 8 have aired thus far. The final 3 will be on the next three Sundays, the finale being on September 29th.


NUGGET!!!!!!!!
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Post by: sueño on October 12, 2013, 01:57:17 AM
Still not readin' none o' this thread, but I just finished season 4.

OMG!!!  :omg: :omg:  :hefdaddy

This show is so good it makes your brain tired.   :hefdaddy  Season 5 marathon tomorrow...
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Post by: Kotowboy on October 12, 2013, 06:08:24 AM
So I bit the bullet and watched all of series 1 in one evening. Pretty good.

It'll be interesting to see where it goes from here. I'm glad there's not that many episodes.

I can't see the premise having that many threads.

Gonna start series 2 soon.
Yeah, I could blow through most of it in very large chunks. However, season 2 was dark and heavy enough that it'd occasionally stop me dead in my tracks. There were a couple of episodes that just made me call it a night and turn on the Simpsons for a while.  :lol

I had to look away when the guy in the acid bath fell thru the ceiling. I don't really want nightmares :P
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Post by: KevShmev on October 12, 2013, 09:49:54 AM
So I bit the bullet and watched all of series 1 in one evening. Pretty good.

It'll be interesting to see where it goes from here. I'm glad there's not that many episodes.

I can't see the premise having that many threads.

Gonna start series 2 soon.

Honestly, I was surprised by how underwhelming the end of Season 1 was (it ends with Tuco beating a guy to death simply for making one remark?)...at first.  But once you see how Season 2 begins, and you get through those first two episodes of Season 2, you know you are in for an awesome ride. :hat

Still not readin' none o' this thread, but I just finished season 4.

OMG!!!  :omg: :omg:  :hefdaddy
 

Haha, I know! I felt like I needed to sleep for a week after the way Season 4 went and eventually ended. :lol :lol

The end of Crawl Space still remains one of the biggest WOW moments I have ever seen on TV or film. 
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Post by: Kotowboy on October 12, 2013, 10:41:58 AM
I just try to avoid splattery gore like the acid bath scene as I sometimes get horrible dreams :P

Is there anything like that I should be aware of ? ;D
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Post by: El Barto on October 12, 2013, 10:45:14 AM
I just try to avoid splattery gore like the acid bath scene as I sometimes get horrible dreams :P

Is there anything like that I should be aware of ? ;D
Yeah, the highlight of the entire fucking series.  :rollin
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Post by: KevShmev on October 12, 2013, 10:47:58 AM
Haha, kind of, but nothing really comes close to how disgusting that acid bath thing is.  Seeing those dead body parts drop to the floor...that is probably about as gross as it got.
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Post by: Kotowboy on October 12, 2013, 10:54:50 AM
Hehe. ;D i'll risk it.
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Post by: El Barto on October 12, 2013, 10:59:06 AM
Haha, kind of, but nothing really comes close to how disgusting that acid bath thing is.  Seeing those dead body parts drop to the floor...that is probably about as gross as it got.
I don't know, I was so busing lmfao that I don't remember it being all that gross. Because of the drama involved, when the Two-Face thing happened, you were literally glued to your screen.
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Post by: sueño on October 12, 2013, 12:44:46 PM
So I bit the bullet and watched all of series 1 in one evening. Pretty good.

It'll be interesting to see where it goes from here. I'm glad there's not that many episodes.

I can't see the premise having that many threads.

Gonna start series 2 soon.

Honestly, I was surprised by how underwhelming the end of Season 1 was (it ends with Tuco beating a guy to death simply for making one remark?)...at first.  But once you see how Season 2 begins, and you get through those first two episodes of Season 2, you know you are in for an awesome ride. :hat

Still not readin' none o' this thread, but I just finished season 4.

OMG!!!  :omg: :omg:  :hefdaddy
 

Haha, I know! I felt like I needed to sleep for a week after the way Season 4 went and eventually ended. :lol :lol

The end of Crawl Space still remains one of the biggest WOW moments I have ever seen on TV or film.

I literally didn't wake up til 10.30 this morning.   Cuppa tea and toast...ready to settle in for the final season!
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Post by: BlackInk on October 12, 2013, 03:48:52 PM
Half way through season 4, it bothers me a bit that Walt's glasses never actually rests upon his ears.

More valid opinions when I finish the series.
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Post by: Sigz on October 12, 2013, 04:40:34 PM
Seriously, the acid bath scene was one of the funniest TV scenes in recent memory.
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Post by: ishak540m on October 13, 2013, 04:23:10 PM
Seriously, the acid bath scene was one of the funniest TV scenes in recent memory.

I can't look at bins in a department store ever again without thinking of Jesse: 

(http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/pinkman-bin2.gif)
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Post by: Tom Bombadil on October 13, 2013, 09:17:54 PM
There are so many things I can't do anymore without thinking of Jesse, like eat a hotdog, or see a fly, or a "cow house".
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Post by: sueño on October 24, 2013, 11:23:52 AM
Okay -- I only have two episodes left.

 :omg: :omg: :omg: OMG!!!  I can't think of many TV shows that make me have to think to BREATHE while I'm watching it!!!!  So many scenes in this show where you feel like this MUST be it for the episode...then you notice there is still 20 minutes left!!!   :omg: :omg: :omg:

I haven't been so *immersed* in a TV program while I'm watching it in.....ever, I think. 

Looking forward to reading thru this thread once I'm finished -- which will be by tonight!
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on October 24, 2013, 12:55:49 PM
Okay -- I only have two episodes left.

 :omg: :omg: :omg: OMG!!!  I can't think of many TV shows that make me have to think to BREATHE while I'm watching it!!!!  So many scenes in this show where you feel like this MUST be it for the episode...then you notice there is still 20 minutes left!!!   :omg: :omg: :omg:

I haven't been so *immersed* in a TV program while I'm watching it in.....ever, I think. 

Looking forward to reading thru this thread once I'm finished -- which will be by tonight!
:tup
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Post by: Chino on October 24, 2013, 01:05:57 PM
Okay -- I only have two episodes left.

 :omg: :omg: :omg: OMG!!!  I can't think of many TV shows that make me have to think to BREATHE while I'm watching it!!!!  So many scenes in this show where you feel like this MUST be it for the episode...then you notice there is still 20 minutes left!!!   :omg: :omg: :omg:

I haven't been so *immersed* in a TV program while I'm watching it in.....ever, I think. 

Looking forward to reading thru this thread once I'm finished -- which will be by tonight!

This has pretty much been the reaction of literally every person I know who has watched the show.... well not everyone. I know one girl that watch all of season one, and 3/4 of season two. She says "I couldn't get into it. I don't get why everyone loves it. I can think of sooo many batter shows".

I suspect she may be an alien.
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Post by: KevShmev on October 24, 2013, 01:13:35 PM
I'll bet her all-time favorite show is Jersey Shore, right?
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Post by: Ben_Jamin on October 24, 2013, 01:22:21 PM
Its a great show,  but I never really got into it.

Also, here in Albuquerque they held a real funeral for Walt Whitman and placed a headstone in a real cemetary. Funny but bad idea, we're a real cultural state and many people got upset. They didn't want a cemetary to become a tourist spot, so the cemetary removed it 2 days after. I say just place the headstone in his RV.
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Post by: SomeoneLikeHim on October 24, 2013, 01:41:21 PM
A bit late imo, the guy has been dead for over a hundred years. :neverusethis:
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Post by: El Barto on October 24, 2013, 04:32:46 PM
This has pretty much been the reaction of literally every person I know who has watched the show.... well not everyone. I know one girl that watch all of season one, and 3/4 of season two. She says "I couldn't get into it. I don't get why everyone loves it. I can think of sooo many batter shows".

I suspect she may be an alien.
Yeah, a coworker of mine said the exact same thing. No alien, though. He's just an idiot.

Also, here in Albuquerque they held a real funeral for Walt Whitman and placed a headstone in a real cemetary. Funny but bad idea, we're a real cultural state and many people got upset. They didn't want a cemetary to become a tourist spot, so the cemetary removed it 2 days after. I say just place the headstone in his RV.
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5wx4qetwg1qex36wo1_500.jpg)
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Post by: sueño on October 24, 2013, 10:21:06 PM
ACK!!!  Getting ready to watch the finale RIGHT NOW!!!!!

Man, I really do not like Todd.  At all.....   :\

okay, bye...    :P
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Post by: Ben_Jamin on October 24, 2013, 10:27:29 PM
Haha my bad...Walt White.
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Post by: KevShmev on October 24, 2013, 10:50:24 PM
ACK!!!  Getting ready to watch the finale RIGHT NOW!!!!!

"Maybe tomorrow a bullet may find me..."

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Post by: sueño on October 24, 2013, 11:33:32 PM
Okay, wow.  Couldn't have ended much better.

*heavy exhale*   I hope Vince Giligan does another show soon.  That was amazing!    :hefdaddy
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Post by: KevShmev on October 25, 2013, 10:21:58 AM
Yep, an absolutely perfect ending.  There is no way it could have ended any better.  :hat
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Post by: sueño on October 25, 2013, 12:26:59 PM
I'm on page 10 of this thread now.  Man, it woulda been fun to watch with you guys (I've watched the whole thing on my own  :sadpanda: ).

No one to hear me shouting, "WHAT???  WHAT??!!!???  WHAT??????????  NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!    :censored"    :omg: :omg: :omg: so many time!!!   :lol

I'm impressed with some of the accurate predictions made here.  Great show!!!   :tup :tup :hefdaddy
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Post by: KevShmev on October 25, 2013, 01:21:29 PM
I've been going back and rewatching a lot of it here and there since the finale, and I have to say, many of the cold openings, some of them the first time through are of the "hmmm, that is kind of cool; I wonder what that will mean" variety, and by the time you get to it, so much has happened that you have almost forgotten about the cold opening :lol, but the second time through, many are of them are much more awesome, now that the meanings are clear. :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
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Post by: sueño on October 25, 2013, 01:46:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWrRPohom3I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWrRPohom3I)

Say my name.

HEISENBERG

That was hilarious!!   :rollin

And can I say how much I LOVE "Let's Get It On" by Marvin Gaye??  Just those first four guitar licks...."Whooo!!"   :hat


*back to reading....
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Post by: j on November 04, 2013, 01:42:31 AM
Just finished this, it totally blew me away.  I cant' form any coherent thoughts right now.

-J
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Post by: John94 on November 04, 2013, 01:23:45 PM
I watched all 5 seasons in 22 days. I told myself it was screenwriting research.


Best series I have seen for a long time.
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Post by: El Barto on November 04, 2013, 01:29:56 PM
I'm starting to wonder if anybody actually watched this show as it aired. It's like Arrested Development. It worked great for those of us willing to watch it in 4 or 5 episode chunks. Hell, I didn't start watching it until Gus was already blowed up.
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Post by: RodrigoAltaf on November 05, 2013, 03:57:52 AM
I started watching when season 5 had only 5 or 6 episodes to finish. Then I caught up with the last two episodes. I think it´s a perfect way of doing it!
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Post by: Bolsters on November 05, 2013, 03:59:11 AM
I'm starting to wonder if anybody actually watched this show as it aired. It's like Arrested Development. It worked great for those of us willing to watch it in 4 or 5 episode chunks. Hell, I didn't start watching it until Gus was already blowed up.
That's when I started watching it, too, between seasons four and five.
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Post by: John94 on November 05, 2013, 04:47:09 AM
I got fed up of everyone talking about and before my tutors spoiled it I thought I need to watch this. If there one series I needed to watch it was this. The joy of Netflix. I don't know how I would have waited for a week for a new episode.

Then, I started Orange is the New Black.
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Post by: KevShmev on November 05, 2013, 09:06:50 AM
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/1d0fb9f6a31369068536bf82ae9974ca/tumblr_mtnd02Gwbi1qdqyxho1_1280.jpg)
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Post by: BlackInk on November 07, 2013, 12:30:39 PM
Just saw the last episode. One of the best shows I have ever seen. If not number one then definetely number two.
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Post by: Chino on November 07, 2013, 02:30:36 PM
Better Call Saul.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/06/better-call-saul-breaking-bad-prequel-sequel_n_4227087.html
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Post by: TimmyHiggy on November 07, 2013, 05:21:22 PM
I was actually quite sad for about a well l week after breaking bad was over, I loved it that much!
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Post by: Bolsters on November 07, 2013, 09:55:42 PM
Has this been posted yet? Trailer for the spanish language remake of Breaking Bad, named Metastasis. It looks, uh...good? :rollin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoH2gu7snwc
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Post by: emblempride on November 08, 2013, 04:06:24 PM
Anybody here watch Comedy Bang Bang or listen to the podcast? Bob Odenkirk's work in comedy goes back to writing for SNL in the early 90's and Mr. Show (greatest sketch comedy show in the world lol with him, David Cross, Jack Black, Tom Kenny, and way more) and he's on the podcast a few times. This was from a week after Felina.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPd0PXEmmqY

"I can get used to this" as Walt's last line on Vince Gilligan's Island would have been a great ending. "The DEA just gives up."
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Post by: reneranucci on November 08, 2013, 04:17:01 PM
Has this been posted yet? Trailer for the spanish language remake of Breaking Bad, named Metastasis. It looks, uh...good? :rollin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoH2gu7snwc
I would say it looks horrible (and I speak Spanish).

I would have preferred an adaptation that a carbon copy. Bring a guy with his own personality instead of finding an actor and making him look like Walt with funny hair. His name is "Walter Blanco", for crap´s sake.
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Post by: Outcrier on November 08, 2013, 05:52:08 PM
Maybe i watch it, looks funny  :rollin
Spanish is no problem, i'm Brazilian  :tup
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Post by: El Barto on November 08, 2013, 05:59:34 PM
Hank reminded me of Omar Suarez from Scarface. Kinda slimy.
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Post by: Zook on November 11, 2013, 11:55:53 AM
This show was amazing. Tugged my heartstrings, got me pissed, made me happy. It was a melting pot of emotions throughout and I loved it.
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Post by: Lucidity on November 11, 2013, 06:12:46 PM
I finished Breaking Bad last night. Just wow. It is just unbelievable to me that you can have 60+ hours of material and not have a single misstep. The show is pure perfection. I'm astounded that they were able to end the show to incredibly well. I spent the better half of watching the show worrying about them screwing up the ending. What a fantastic show. Bound to go down in history.
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Post by: sneakyblueberry on November 15, 2013, 03:07:43 AM
I binged on this show not long ago.  Pretty much fast forwarded through anything with Skyler and Marie.  Also I cracked up at Marie's face after Hank died.  Seeing as I have a daughter now, the parts with Holly on the final episodes made me cry :(
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Post by: El Barto on November 15, 2013, 08:48:53 AM
I binged on this show not long ago.  Pretty much fast forwarded through anything with Skyler and Marie.  Also I cracked up at Marie's face after Hank died.  Seeing as I have a daughter now, the parts with Holly on the final episodes made me cry :(
Way to up and disappear for two years.  Sneaky, indeed.

While I always considered both Skyler and Marie to be completely worthless, Marie was pretty integral to the last season. I still maintain that Hank handled the whole thing all wrong, and Marie was a big part of his bungling of that.

Up until the very end I pretty much figured she'd be the one to finally ice Walt.
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Post by: KevShmev on November 15, 2013, 08:49:39 AM
I binged on this show not long ago. Pretty much fast forwarded through anything with Skyler and Marie.  Also I cracked up at Marie's face after Hank died.  Seeing as I have a daughter now, the parts with Holly on the final episodes made me cry :(

Why?  What is the point of watching a show if you aren't gonna actually watch the whole thing?
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Post by: Zook on November 15, 2013, 09:12:47 AM
I only had a problem with Skyler after she started the affair. She was likable before that. As for Marie, she was the annoying little sister, and besides her clepto-ness, and weird house auction phase, she wasn't a bad character either.
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Post by: sueño on November 15, 2013, 09:33:21 AM
I binged on this show not long ago. Pretty much fast forwarded through anything with Skyler and Marie.  Also I cracked up at Marie's face after Hank died.  Seeing as I have a daughter now, the parts with Holly on the final episodes made me cry :(

Why?  What is the point of watching a show if you aren't gonna actually watch the whole thing?

This.  That's like skipping pages in a gripping novel.  There were a LOT of Skyler and Marie bits that were integral to how the rest of the story played out.  Despite how one feels about any given character, I can't understand just ignoring their place in the plot.

The best thing about this entire series was that each and every character had their own motivations and added flavor to the story.  There wasn't anyone I wasn't sympathetic to at some point or another...and neglecting any of their development would have only taken away from everything I got out of it.
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Post by: KevShmev on November 15, 2013, 09:38:32 AM
Exactly.

It reminds me of the time I saw someone say that they skipped the Tony/Dr. Melfi sessions on The Sopranos because they were boring, and I thought, "Congratulations, you just missed the entire point of the show." :lol :lol
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Post by: j on November 15, 2013, 10:22:39 AM
I found Skyler to be really unlikable through most of the show, but I don't think I'd ever fast forward through any part of a show I was invested in watching.

I still maintain that Hank handled the whole thing all wrong, and Marie was a big part of his bungling of that.

Elaborate?

-J
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Post by: KevShmev on November 15, 2013, 11:33:18 AM
I don't quite get that either.  If anything, Hank was ignoring Marie's advice, like when she told him to get ahead of it, when they saw Walter's confession tape, by telling Ramey, which he didn't do.  The way Hank acted once he found out about Walter was consistent with his actions throughout the series: too headstrong, too emotional about it, and skirting the law to try to get the job done. 
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Post by: El Barto on November 15, 2013, 11:53:55 AM
I still maintain that Hank handled the whole thing all wrong, and Marie was a big part of his bungling of that.

Elaborate?

-J
Hank took the entire thing far too personally. Once he found out he had been schooled, the reasonable approach would have been to belt Walter once in the eye on principle, and then get down to figuring out the best course of action moving forward. Since his career was kaput regardless of how the thing played out, and it's entirely possible that he would have gotten more than a little entangled in it once a staggeringly thorough investigation from the feds was finished, that best move was most assuredly not going through and busting Walt. The absolute best possible outcome from busting Walt is that the DEA allows him to retire in disgrace. More likely outcomes are that he does some time over the money Walt gave them, or winds up getting offed by Walt or one of his associates.

Were it me, I'd have preferred information. Finding out all of the details would have been paramount. For one thing, there are a ton of unanswered questions from Hank's perspective. For another thing, I'd want to know if Walt really was an evil bastard and to what degree.

As for Marie, she took the whole thing even more personally, despite having a flawed understanding of nearly every detail, reinforcing Hank's behavior.
Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: sneakyblueberry on November 15, 2013, 12:19:11 PM
I binged on this show not long ago. Pretty much fast forwarded through anything with Skyler and Marie.  Also I cracked up at Marie's face after Hank died.  Seeing as I have a daughter now, the parts with Holly on the final episodes made me cry :(

Why?  What is the point of watching a show if you aren't gonna actually watch the whole thing?

This.  That's like skipping pages in a gripping novel.  There were a LOT of Skyler and Marie bits that were integral to how the rest of the story played out.  Despite how one feels about any given character, I can't understand just ignoring their place in the plot.

The best thing about this entire series was that each and every character had their own motivations and added flavor to the story.  There wasn't anyone I wasn't sympathetic to at some point or another...and neglecting any of their development would have only taken away from everything I got out of it.

Sorry, Skyler's parts in Season 3 I meant.  It made Season 3 drag a bit for me.  Once the whole Ted affair was done the whole thing picked up pace, I found.  So, pretty much what Zook said. 

Way to up and disappear for two years.  Sneaky, indeed.

;)
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Post by: Chino on November 15, 2013, 01:13:31 PM
Skyler lost all credibility when she sang happy birthday to Ted.
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Post by: sneakyblueberry on November 15, 2013, 02:05:47 PM
^pretty much. Prime example of something you want to ffwd. Dopey tart.
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Post by: Zook on November 15, 2013, 02:15:01 PM
Yeah, you could understand and feel for Skyler because of what she was going through, but as soon as she started coming on to Ted, and then fucked him, to the curb she went. But still, I couldn't help but eye fuck her every time she was on screen. Especially Season 4. She put on a tiny bit of weight and was curvy as hell.

Fuck that cheating bitch!
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Post by: sueño on November 15, 2013, 02:18:02 PM
^pretty much. Prime example of something you want to ffwd. Dopey tart.

:shrug:  As I said, every character in that series had their own motivations for doing what they did.  How do people hate Skyler but don't hate Walt??  Is it really preferable to dissolve people in acid or poison children than have an affair??

From her point of view -- she is having a late in life baby they likely couldn't really afford like they'd like.  She'd been raising a special needs son.  She'd been supporting an under-employed husband -- don't think she didn't know his frustrations and unhappiness.  Her husband is dying of cancer and will be leaving her alone with their debts, at least another 18 years worth of child-rearing, no emotional/financial support.  Now -- said husband is acting weird, Jekyll & Hyde-ing in his personality.  Hiding things, lying... how should she behave with all that?  Then she discovers astounding criminal activities that will impact her, her children, the rest of her family and actually come into her home and her husband has no remorse whatsoever.

I'm not in favor of anyone's extra-marital affairs.  And yes, she had a bossy personality.  But the reasons for Skyler's actions, attitudes, all that were directly a result of Walt's.  IMO -- she was the best "thinking on her feet" character IN the series.  Walt would have been toast long ago, if not for her -- despite her often "pain in the butt-edness".
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Post by: sneakyblueberry on November 15, 2013, 02:20:32 PM
But still, I couldn't help but eye fuck her every time she was on screen. Especially Season 4. She put on a tiny bit of weight and was curvy as hell

Naw man. I can think of a million things id rather pop my willy in and one of them is a watermelon.

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Post by: Zook on November 15, 2013, 02:22:40 PM
Come season 5, I hated Walt. I was rooting for Hank to bust him, and for Jesse to get away.

I also wanted to murder Todd myself.
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Post by: sneakyblueberry on November 15, 2013, 02:24:08 PM
^pretty much. Prime example of something you want to ffwd. Dopey tart.

:shrug:  As I said, every character in that series had their own motivations for doing what they did.  How do people hate Skyler but don't hate Walt??  Is it really preferable to dissolve people in acid or poison children than have an affair??

From her point of view -- she is having a late in life baby they likely couldn't really afford like they'd like.  She'd been raising a special needs son.  She'd been supporting an under-employed husband -- don't think she didn't know his frustrations and unhappiness.  Her husband is dying of cancer and will be leaving her alone with their debts, at least another 18 years worth of child-rearing, no emotional/financial support.  Now -- said husband is acting weird, Jekyll & Hyde-ing in his personality.  Hiding things, lying... how should she behave with all that?  Then she discovers astounding criminal activities that will impact her, her children, the rest of her family and actually come into her home and her husband has no remorse whatsoever.

I'm not in favor of anyone's extra-marital affairs.  And yes, she had a bossy personality.  But the reasons for Skyler's actions, attitudes, all that were directly a result of Walt's.  IMO -- she was the best "thinking on her feet" character IN the series.  Walt would have been toast long ago, if not for her -- despite her often "pain in the butt-edness".

I dunno. I hear ya. She just rubs me the wrong way I guess. A well written character to be able to do that.

Interestingly, she was the voice of Ariel in the first Legacy of Kain. That's pretty sweet.
Title: Re: Breaking Bad (**SPOILERS MAY BE PRESENT**)
Post by: sneakyblueberry on November 15, 2013, 02:26:41 PM
Come season 5, I hated Walt. I was rooting for Hank to bust him, and for Jesse to get away.

I also wanted to murder Todd myself.

That's what the writers were trying to achieve tho right?  I guess I just never really 'turned' on Walt. Despite all the crap. :shrug:
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Post by: Tom Bombadil on November 15, 2013, 03:39:18 PM
I hated walt all of season 5 but I think he redeemed himself a little at the end. I was definitely rooting for him in the last 2 episodes. Before that I was hoping Hank would bust his ass.
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Post by: sueño on November 15, 2013, 03:46:02 PM
What I didn't like about Walt was his ridiculous sense of pride...at any and all costs.  No matter who it impacted or what had to be done.

I understand that he felt that was all he had left and it's a man's duty to provide for his family.  But he had more than enough many times and risked everything because of being "butt-hurt" behind some slight.

I lost much respect for him.  Still, a very compelling character.


Re: Skyler -- we don't want to discount the ridiculous pregnancy hormones she was dealing with thru much of this.  They can make a woman crazy under the best of circumstances!   ;)
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Post by: j on November 15, 2013, 04:51:20 PM
Hank took the entire thing far too personally. Once he found out he had been schooled, the reasonable approach would have been to belt Walter once in the eye on principle, and then get down to figuring out the best course of action moving forward. Since his career was kaput regardless of how the thing played out, and it's entirely possible that he would have gotten more than a little entangled in it once a staggeringly thorough investigation from the feds was finished, that best move was most assuredly not going through and busting Walt. The absolute best possible outcome from busting Walt is that the DEA allows him to retire in disgrace. More likely outcomes are that he does some time over the money Walt gave them, or winds up getting offed by Walt or one of his associates.

Were it me, I'd have preferred information. Finding out all of the details would have been paramount. For one thing, there are a ton of unanswered questions from Hank's perspective. For another thing, I'd want to know if Walt really was an evil bastard and to what degree.

As for Marie, she took the whole thing even more personally, despite having a flawed understanding of nearly every detail, reinforcing Hank's behavior.

Yeah I gotcha.  I guess I just didn't see that Hank had many real options in front of him.  Before everything came to a head, part of me even wondered if he would end up looking the other way.  But Marie definitely turned into just an emotional basket case harpy, which is largely how I felt about Skyler throughout most of the show.  Although in Skyler's case, sueno did a good job outlining all of the very legitimate reasons she had for losing it.

As for Walt, he definitely shocked me with his behavior more than a few times throughout the show.  And even relatively early on, it started to become clear that he was not just a martyr for his family, but had taken ownership of what he was doing and was possessive and proud of it, and protective of it.  But I didn't really fault him for that.  And in spite of it all, up until the end of season 4/beginning of season 5, I think I still bought that his ultimate motivation was his family, and the fact that he finally felt personally secure and accomplished was just a happy side effect.

The show gave you a million reasons to feel for Walt.  They present him as a dude who has been screwed by life in practically every way imaginable.  Then they make him slowly devolve and become progressively more "evil" and see how long you continue to buy him as a protagonist and root for him.  Frankly, it's hard not to get behind somebody who has been royally boned as long as he's been alive, and then finally decides to start saying "fuck you" to all the shackles that had been holding him down, despite the horrible fallout that comes along with it.

-J
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Post by: El Barto on November 15, 2013, 05:42:29 PM
Hank took the entire thing far too personally. Once he found out he had been schooled, the reasonable approach would have been to belt Walter once in the eye on principle, and then get down to figuring out the best course of action moving forward. Since his career was kaput regardless of how the thing played out, and it's entirely possible that he would have gotten more than a little entangled in it once a staggeringly thorough investigation from the feds was finished, that best move was most assuredly not going through and busting Walt. The absolute best possible outcome from busting Walt is that the DEA allows him to retire in disgrace. More likely outcomes are that he does some time over the money Walt gave them, or winds up getting offed by Walt or one of his associates.

Were it me, I'd have preferred information. Finding out all of the details would have been paramount. For one thing, there are a ton of unanswered questions from Hank's perspective. For another thing, I'd want to know if Walt really was an evil bastard and to what degree.

As for Marie, she took the whole thing even more personally, despite having a flawed understanding of nearly every detail, reinforcing Hank's behavior.

Yeah I gotcha.  I guess I just didn't see that Hank had many real options in front of him.  Before everything came to a head, part of me even wondered if he would end up looking the other way.  But Marie definitely turned into just an emotional basket case harpy, which is largely how I felt about Skyler throughout most of the show.  Although in Skyler's case, sueno did a good job outlining all of the very legitimate reasons she had for losing it.
Walking away was the shrewd move. To be fair, I suppose that he wasn't yet aware that his recovery was financed by Walt, so he was missing one key piece of information. Still, at the end of 5A, I was definitely thinking it was time to call it a career and GTFO of Dodge. As I said before, a big part of Hank's problem was that he drank the Nancy Reagan Kool Ade. While I'd still take it somewhat personally that he had played me, I wouldn't see the innate evil in Walt's actions that Hank saw. Without that perception, I'd really be much more interested in sitting down and comparing notes (after the eye belting, of course) than seeing him burn.

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They present him as a dude who has been screwed by life in practically every way imaginable.  Then they make him slowly devolve and become progressively more "evil" and see how long you continue to buy him as a protagonist and root for him.
This is exactly what made me start watching the show. I read some remarks from VG explaining that very point, and said holy shit, I want to see that.
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Post by: sueño on November 15, 2013, 06:55:34 PM
I think the thing with Hank was the monumental betrayal aspect, as well.  For all his bluster and obnoxiousness, he really loved his family.  Hard.  In that scene when he found the poetry book and realized that Walt was Heisenberg all along...I don't think it was just that he was fooled.  This was his BROTHER!  It's like you could see the life drain out of him.  :(

It was amazing to see him leaving the house, speeding away and being so overcome with every kind of emotion that he was physically sick behind it.  Have any of you ever been that emotionally undone by a discovery?  I think that's how I would feel to learn of such an incredible breach of trust.  Hank was nearly killed or permanently paralyzed because of Walt's antics -- and Walt would have have fessed up to it.

I believe it was all those emotions -- along with his natural "won't beat me" personality that pushed him off the deep end.  Even the very end, you could tell he cared for Walt.

Not entirely sure the same would be said if the tables were turned.
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Post by: El Barto on November 15, 2013, 07:29:18 PM
I think the thing with Hank was the monumental betrayal aspect, as well.  For all his bluster and obnoxiousness, he really loved his family.  Hard.  In that scene when he found the poetry book and realized that Walt was Heisenberg all along...I don't think it was just that he was fooled.  This was his BROTHER!  It's like you could see the life drain out of him.  :(
Certainly true, and fairly hard to watch. I rank that as one of the series best moments.

The problem is that a lot of what he thought about Walt was completely wrong. He wasn't nearly paralyzed because of Walt's antics. He was nearly paralyzed because Gus sold him out to protect Walt, who as I recall had no idea that was happening. Same thing with Marie. They both had all of these assumptions that WW was responsible for every bad thing that happened over the last 5 seasons. Did Hank even realize how surprisingly evil Gus actually was? They sure seemed to associate his actions with Walt.

Furthermore, with only a couple of exceptions, I don't recall WW taking advantage of Hank's position. That's what I would consider betrayal. Frankly, Hank was always far more of a headache for Walter than an asset, specifically because he was so interested in keeping him out of the business side of things. Do you think Hank would have broken down sobbing in the sand if Gomey had gone berserk and put some of that 00 shot into Walt's chest?

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I believe it was all those emotions -- along with his natural "won't beat me" personality that pushed him off the deep end.  Even the very end, you could tell he cared for Walt.

Not entirely sure the same would be said if the tables were turned.
I disagree with both parts. I think Hank would have been just as happy to shoot him out in the desert. I'm sure there was still some familial bond between them, but Hank really despised him at that point. At the same time, Walter did everything he could to prevent Hank from getting killed, and was far more broken up about Hank's death than Hank would have been if Walt caught one.
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Post by: j on November 15, 2013, 08:31:42 PM
While I'd still take it somewhat personally that he had played me, I wouldn't see the innate evil in Walt's actions that Hank saw.

I dunno, having the 10 witnesses offed pretty much destroyed any remaining semblance of the notion that Walt was only ever indirectly responsible for the occasional "necessary casualty."  Still, I do think Hank definitely took it to heart that he "got beat," but furthermore, I never got the impression that Hank and Walt were ever that close anyway.  The show made their relationship look like a typical obligatory in-law tolerance and civility, but they never had anything in common in terms of personality or interests.  For that reason, I find it believable that either of them *in their respective situations* wouldn't have been too torn up over the other one getting wasted, although Walt's repeated attempts to spare Hank and his reaction after he was killed certainly seemed genuine.

-J
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Post by: sueño on November 15, 2013, 08:48:12 PM
I think the thing with Hank was the monumental betrayal aspect, as well.  For all his bluster and obnoxiousness, he really loved his family.  Hard.  In that scene when he found the poetry book and realized that Walt was Heisenberg all along...I don't think it was just that he was fooled.  This was his BROTHER!  It's like you could see the life drain out of him.  :(
Certainly true, and fairly hard to watch. I rank that as one of the series best moments.

The problem is that a lot of what he thought about Walt was completely wrong. He wasn't nearly paralyzed because of Walt's antics. He was nearly paralyzed because Gus sold him out to protect Walt, who as I recall had no idea that was happening. Same thing with Marie. They both had all of these assumptions that WW was responsible for every bad thing that happened over the last 5 seasons. Did Hank even realize how surprisingly evil Gus actually was? They sure seemed to associate his actions with Walt.

Furthermore, with only a couple of exceptions, I don't recall WW taking advantage of Hank's position. That's what I would consider betrayal. Frankly, Hank was always far more of a headache for Walter than an asset, specifically because he was so interested in keeping him out of the business side of things. Do you think Hank would have broken down sobbing in the sand if Gomey had gone berserk and put some of that 00 shot into Walt's chest?

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I believe it was all those emotions -- along with his natural "won't beat me" personality that pushed him off the deep end.  Even the very end, you could tell he cared for Walt.

Not entirely sure the same would be said if the tables were turned.
I disagree with both parts. I think Hank would have been just as happy to shoot him out in the desert. I'm sure there was still some familial bond between them, but Hank really despised him at that point. At the same time, Walter did everything he could to prevent Hank from getting killed, and was far more broken up about Hank's death than Hank would have been if Walt caught one.

Y'know -- by the time everything got that point, I agree; Hank was far less broken up about things than Walt was.  But I think the reason was because Walt basically broke Hank's heart.  There was a sea change that occurred once Hank realized exactly what was going on and I think it was like the feeling a person gets when something they always believed in is proved to be false -- and that thing was taking advantage of them the whole time.  Like the long betrayal of a spouse, the selling out by a friend...maybe even employer - or on a grander scale, one's country.  There is a shift that kinda cuts the love...all of a sudden, you're wondering how you EVER felt anything for that person, they're like some stranger to you.  As far as Hank was concerned, Walt - his brother, friend, drinkin' buddy -- didn't exist anymore.  In fact, Walt "killed" that person.  He was like a mad dog who needed to be put down.

Walt still had guilt and love working for him because he *knew* that he was responsible for everything that was going on and that Hank didn't deserve what was happening to him.  He knew all the suffering was on his account.  I was really happy to see Walt still had some kind of conscience, to be honest.  Doesn't matter how evil Gus was; he would never know anything about Hank if not for Walt - wouldn't had no need to protect him.  Hank's actions, associations, attitude...all that brought sorrow, pain and danger to his family.  Just coz he didn't know exactly who/what he was dealing with is no excuse; it was still his fault.  Anything caused by extraneous characters was a direct result of Heisenberg.
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Post by: El Barto on November 15, 2013, 11:43:33 PM
I dunno, having the 10 witnesses offed pretty much destroyed any remaining semblance of the notion that Walt was only ever indirectly responsible for the occasional "necessary casualty."
That's a very good point. Hadn't thought of that. However, I'm not trying to say that Hank shouldn't have taken things personally; he was right to. Nor am I saying that he should have seen WW as a swell guy earning a buck. What I am saying is that he let that cloud his judgement. Busting him as a DEA agent was going to do more harm than good. It was time to start looking for the best means of cutting losses, not running off on a personal vendetta. To that end, finding out all of the details would have been part of my plan. He would have learned some new stuff, and found out that other things he thought he knew were wrong.
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Post by: Tom Bombadil on November 16, 2013, 10:33:57 AM
Well Jesse does explain everything in detail  into the video camera. So Hank should pretty much have all the details by then.
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Post by: KevShmev on November 16, 2013, 11:34:56 AM
Well, yeah, but by then, Jesse hatred's for Walt was so strong that he likely spun it in a way to make Walt look as bad as possible (even worse than he looked to us).   For example, remember when Jesse lost his half of the money they had earned thanks to the feds seizing it from his car following the Tuco resolution?  Jesse thought he was then entitled to half of Walt's money, which was absurd, but Walt eventually did give him half of his half, which he didn't have to.  Granted, Walt only did so because Jesse was choking him in the RV and about to beat the hell out of him, but he still could have reneged and not given him the money.  I doubt Jesse told that part of the story in a way that made Walt look good at all. 

The shame of it all was, as bad as Walt was, he really did do his best to keep Hank's out of harm's way where Gus was concerned, and Hank never knew that, even after he figured out who Walt was.  Sure, Walt did tell Jack he would give Jack all of his money if he would spare Hank's life, and that had to tell Hank something prior to his death, but Hank still never knew the lengths Walt went to to protect him.
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Post by: El Barto on November 16, 2013, 11:54:42 AM
That was the thing that bummed me out the most. Of all of the awful things Walt did, it was killing Hank that his entirely family hated him for, which is the one thing he didn't do. Skyler knew, but everybody else blamed him for it despite all he did to try and avoid it. Hell, Walt Jr., worthless little prick that he was, couldn't wait for him to die because of his mistaken belief that he offed Uncle Hank.
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Post by: sueño on November 16, 2013, 06:07:03 PM
Amazing about different perspectives.

I always thought that Walt Jr. was the sweetest, most genuine character on the show.  Apart from Holly, of course.

He believed what he saw...and he saw terrible, terrible things.  Remember -- Walt came after Skyler with a knife.  I don't know how ANY father could come back from that.  The belief that he killed Hank -- and indeed, he WAS responsible for his death -- was just some nasty icing on the cake. 

Walt Jr's heart was another that was broken by Walt Sr.  :(
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Post by: j on November 16, 2013, 07:14:58 PM
Remember -- Walt came after Skyler with a knife.

Uhh...am I missing something?  I seem to remember Skyler getting the knife, swinging at Walt and gashing him across the hand, and Walt trying to wrestle it away from her.  Then Jr. broke them up.  Right?

-J
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Post by: Zook on November 16, 2013, 07:20:11 PM
Remember -- Walt came after Skyler with a knife.

Uhh...am I missing something?  I seem to remember Skyler getting the knife, swinging at Walt and gashing him across the hand, and Walt trying to wrestle it away from her.  Then Jr. broke them up.  Right?

-J

That's what I saw. Walt Jr. told the police that Walt came after his mom with the knife.
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Post by: El Barto on November 16, 2013, 07:25:23 PM
Yeah. Skyler pulled the knife and Walt Jr.s sorry ass called Johnny and said it was his dad. I thought he was a worthless waste of space before that, but blaming Walter really took him down another couple of notches.

And Walt Jr. never saw anything ugly. He thought his dad was great until Skyler and her sister told him their version of events (which Skyler would have distorted a great deal to keep herself out of the frying pan). Next thing you know he's anxious for Walter's death.
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Post by: Zook on November 16, 2013, 07:31:53 PM
Once season 5 started, I was done rooting for Walter. His actions beforehand could have been justified, but season 5 onward he was a ruthless dickhead, so Jr. telling the cops the wrong info didn't bother me, because I wanted Walter to be busted anyway.
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Post by: sueño on November 16, 2013, 09:33:08 PM
You are right, Skyler pulled the knife first.  I do, however, think Jr was being naturally protective of his mother.  And Walt had them all under some threat or another from his first cook, if you think about it.   :(

 I liked Jr a lot and Sr destroyed everything and everyone who ever trusted him.  Again - magnificent writing/acting to turn so many tricky emotions.   :tup
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Post by: El Barto on November 16, 2013, 10:10:30 PM
You are right, Skyler pulled the knife first.  I do, however, think Jr was being naturally protective of his mother.  And Walt had them all under some threat or another from his first cook, if you think about it.   :(

 I liked Jr a lot and Sr destroyed everything and everyone who ever trusted him.  Again - magnificent writing/acting to turn so many tricky emotions.   :tup
I just don't think much of that applied to WJ. He knew nothing about Walt's business, and up until that point largely preferred him over Skyler. He took Walt's side up until the very end. At that point Jr. knew nothing about Walt's shady dealings, except what he'd been told by his idiot, biased mother and idiot, meddling aunt two hours before.
 
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Post by: Bolsters on November 17, 2013, 02:30:00 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kZivVxB3vU
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Post by: Zook on November 17, 2013, 02:59:46 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kZivVxB3vU

I just watched that like 45 minutes ago. While I'm not a fan of Malcolm in the Middle, I enjoyed that.
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Post by: KevShmev on November 17, 2013, 07:52:50 AM
Yeah. Skyler pulled the knife and Walt Jr.s sorry ass called Johnny and said it was his dad. I thought he was a worthless waste of space before that, but blaming Walter really took him down another couple of notches.

And Walt Jr. never saw anything ugly. He thought his dad was great until Skyler and her sister told him their version of events (which Skyler would have distorted a great deal to keep herself out of the frying pan). Next thing you know he's anxious for Walter's death.

Walt basically admitted to killing Hank in the phone call he made to Skyler, so even though he was lying and taking the blame as a way of trying to get Skyler off the hook with the feds, for his son, that was likely the last straw.  Plus, Walt had taken Holly with him when he left following the fight, so don't think that didn't spoke volumes to Jr. as well. 

As for Jr.'s actions during the knife wrestling match :lol, I think he was still torn as to what was really going on, but watch it again.  At the very end, Walt gains some control and puts his hand on Skyler's chest, almost in an aggressive manner, causing her to scream. It was then that instinct took over and Jr. jumped on his dad and wrestled him off his mom and then immediately moved over to protect her from his dad who appeared completely out of control.  I thought his actions were very understandable and consistent throughout that entire scene.  If you want to bash him for lying to the cops, fine, but this is a teenager who just saw his dad for who he really was and just wanted to protect his mother.  And it's not like Walt deserved the benefit of the doubt anyway.
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Post by: sueño on November 17, 2013, 08:17:49 AM
Yeah, what Kev said!

Jr *had'nt* really known or seen anything up to that point, really - that's true.  I think a big part of my feelings on this is that we, the audience, had.

Every time Walt told some lying sob story or Jr expressed some love & concern for dad because he didn't know what was really going on, it made me sick.    >:(
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Post by: sueño on November 17, 2013, 08:49:27 AM
Oh man, here's this!    :rollin

 http://www.buzzfeed.com/jacelacob/this-breaking-bad-alternate-ending-must-be-seen-to-be-believ?bffb&s=mobile  (http://www.buzzfeed.com/jacelacob/this-breaking-bad-alternate-ending-must-be-seen-to-be-believ?bffb&s=mobile)
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Post by: El Barto on November 17, 2013, 09:52:27 AM
As for Jr.'s actions during the knife wrestling match :lol, I think he was still torn as to what was really going on, but watch it again.  At the very end, Walt gains some control and puts his hand on Skyler's chest, almost in an aggressive manner, causing her to scream. It was then that instinct took over and Jr. jumped on his dad and wrestled him off his mom and then immediately moved over to protect her from his dad who appeared completely out of control.  I thought his actions were very understandable and consistent throughout that entire scene.  If you want to bash him for lying to the cops, fine, but this is a teenager who just saw his dad for who he really was and just wanted to protect his mother.  And it's not like Walt deserved the benefit of the doubt anyway.
Yeah, I watched that again last night. Where was Jr's instinct when his mom was swinging a knife at his old man for very dubious reasons? And Sklyer didn't seem completely out of control? I've got no problem with Jr breaking up the fight, hell, somebody could have gotten hurt, but the sudden change in loyalty really pissed me off. From what Jr. had reason to know, there was no basis for it other than the fact that he's a worthless little weasel.
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Post by: Dark Castle on November 17, 2013, 09:58:02 AM
Oh man, here's this!    :rollin

 http://www.buzzfeed.com/jacelacob/this-breaking-bad-alternate-ending-must-be-seen-to-be-believ?bffb&s=mobile  (http://www.buzzfeed.com/jacelacob/this-breaking-bad-alternate-ending-must-be-seen-to-be-believ?bffb&s=mobile)
I'm so happy they actually did this.  :laugh:
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Post by: sueño on November 17, 2013, 11:06:20 AM
As for Jr.'s actions during the knife wrestling match :lol, I think he was still torn as to what was really going on, but watch it again.  At the very end, Walt gains some control and puts his hand on Skyler's chest, almost in an aggressive manner, causing her to scream. It was then that instinct took over and Jr. jumped on his dad and wrestled him off his mom and then immediately moved over to protect her from his dad who appeared completely out of control.  I thought his actions were very understandable and consistent throughout that entire scene.  If you want to bash him for lying to the cops, fine, but this is a teenager who just saw his dad for who he really was and just wanted to protect his mother.  And it's not like Walt deserved the benefit of the doubt anyway.
Yeah, I watched that again last night. Where was Jr's instinct when his mom was swinging a knife at his old man for very dubious reasons? And Sklyer didn't seem completely out of control? I've got no problem with Jr breaking up the fight, hell, somebody could have gotten hurt, but the sudden change in loyalty really pissed me off. From what Jr. had reason to know, there was no basis for it other than the fact that he's a worthless little weasel.

I think it's because sons are usually very protective of their mothers.  Jr probably figured his dad could handle the situation without his help...and he did.  But when Walt had already disarmed Skyler and rather than put the knife down he moved to attack her, Jr knew mom would be no match.

Do not mess with a boy's mother.   Ever.
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Post by: GuineaPig on November 17, 2013, 11:16:24 AM
It was also fairly obvious that Walt was somehow responsible for Hank's death.
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Post by: Tom Bombadil on November 17, 2013, 11:39:54 AM
It was also fairly obvious that Walt was somehow responsible for Hank's death.
I love your picture :tup
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Post by: El Barto on November 17, 2013, 12:03:12 PM
It was also fairly obvious that Walt was somehow responsible for Hank's death.
Only because his cunt wife kept screaming "you killed Hank!" The only thing Walt implied was "I tried to save Hank." Now, I'll give shithead Jr. the benefit that he just learned that his beloved uncle was dead, but I still don't think that excuses him for the phone call.

I guess it's also reasonable to point out that I have a completely different perspective on the war on drugs than any of his simple-minded family. I (as do plenty in here arguing against me regarding Hank and Jr.) am very firmly of the opinion that the war on drugs is far, far more destructive than the drugs themselves. Part of Jr's issue is that he saw Walt's business as far more destructive than it was (from Jr's perspective based on what he knew). Frankly, based on that perspective, he was just wrong. If he knew everything that Walt had been up to, I'd be fine with his actions. He knew dick about it, other than the misinformation and his belief that drugs are evil.
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Post by: Zook on November 17, 2013, 12:21:32 PM
If Walt never started cooking, Hank would still be alive, or if not, he still wouldn't have died (been murdered) due to the actions of Walt.
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Post by: El Barto on November 17, 2013, 12:31:59 PM
If Walt never started cooking, Hank would still be alive, or if not, he still wouldn't have died (been murdered) due to the actions of Walt.
That's certainly likely (though by no means guaranteed, remember that Gus allowed Hank to be hit specifically to bring the hammer down on his Mexican rivals). Still, I don't see how that excuses Jr. for being a little shit.
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Post by: Zook on November 17, 2013, 12:41:28 PM
I don't see Jr. as being a little shit. His dad was acting crazy, scaring his mom to the point of pulling a knife, meanwhile his mom is having a complete mental breakdown from what Walt has done to their life, then Jr. learning that his dad is a drug dealer directly or indirectly responsible for his uncle's death, it doesn't matter, a 16 year old kid just got shit on by life, and parents with marital problems and now drug related problems take a toll on a child at any age.
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Post by: Tom Bombadil on November 17, 2013, 01:33:16 PM
I have no problem with Jr's actions in that particular scene. I just don't like his character throughout the whole series.
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Post by: El Barto on November 17, 2013, 02:38:48 PM
I don't see Jr. as being a little shit. His dad was acting crazy, scaring his mom to the point of pulling a knife, meanwhile his mom is having a complete mental breakdown from what Walt has done to their life, then Jr. learning that his dad is a drug dealer directly or indirectly responsible for his uncle's death, it doesn't matter, a 16 year old kid just got shit on by life, and parents with marital problems and now drug related problems take a toll on a child at any age.
I thought his mom was the crazy one during that particular incident. Also, lets not forget that she was pretty freaking duplicitous in the whole drug dealing affair. Something conveniently omitted during her sitdown with Jr. Granted, that's another thing Jr wasn't privy to so I'm not holding that against him, but Sklyer was certainly carrying on with her own longstanding worthlessness. Like I said, despite being the most evil of the lot, Walt was the only White that I had any regard for. The rest of them (well, I suppose I'll leave Holly out of it, but I wouldn't bet too heavily on her future) were all worthless boneheads.
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Post by: KevShmev on November 17, 2013, 03:01:16 PM
Yeah, I watched that again last night. Where was Jr's instinct when his mom was swinging a knife at his old man for very dubious reasons? 

He said, "Mom, what are you doing?" the minute she stopped him in the hall (by holding her arm out to keep him away from Walt) and held the knife out towards Walt, and he was yelling, "Stop!" the whole time they were fighting.

I think it's because sons are usually very protective of their mothers.  Jr probably figured his dad could handle the situation without his help...and he did.  But when Walt had already disarmed Skyler and rather than put the knife down he moved to attack her, Jr knew mom would be no match.

Do not mess with a boy's mother.   Ever.

Very true.  Again, the way Walt aggressively put his hand to Skyler's chest, causing her to scream, cannot be ignored.  It was only then that Jr. jumped on his dad and pulled him off of her.

I don't see Jr. as being a little shit. His dad was acting crazy, scaring his mom to the point of pulling a knife, meanwhile his mom is having a complete mental breakdown from what Walt has done to their life, then Jr. learning that his dad is a drug dealer directly or indirectly responsible for his uncle's death, it doesn't matter, a 16 year old kid just got shit on by life, and parents with marital problems and now drug related problems take a toll on a child at any age.

Bingo!

Barto, I am actually shocked some of your posts here.  Cunt wife?  Really?
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Post by: j on November 17, 2013, 04:07:21 PM
I sort of see where Barto is coming from.  There were quite a few instances during the show (and this was one of them) where I felt like good lord, if Skyler (or whoever) would just calm the fuck down and *listen* for a second, maybe everybody wouldn't come away with the worst possible impressions, and maybe she might be able to even understand Walt's decisions to some degree.  Instead, she would totally shut down, be super passive aggressive, and let her imagination run wild with what was probably going on with Walt.  Although, that was facilitated by Walt's constant lying and reluctance to involve her in any of it, although I'm not sure that last thing was always coming from a misguided place.

And of course it's hard to ask everybody to chill out and be rational in light of news that a family member has just been killed.  But still, I feel like I'd be demanding some information if I were in Jr's position, not making an impulsive call to the cops based on the emotionally charged scenario that just went down.

-J
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Post by: El Barto on November 17, 2013, 04:38:42 PM
Yeah, I watched that again last night. Where was Jr's instinct when his mom was swinging a knife at his old man for very dubious reasons? 

He said, "Mom, what are you doing?" the minute she stopped him in the hall (by holding her arm out to keep him away from Walt) and held the knife out towards Walt, and he was yelling, "Stop!" the whole time they were fighting.
That's kind of my point. He knew exactly who it was that flipped out. It's not like he missed the mom pulls a knife part. For the entire first part of that altercation, he knew exactly who the crazy one was. And unless he's retarded, which I don't think was ever suggested, he knew that his mom was willing to kill him with it after she slashed his hand. I'm certainly sympathetic to somebody being defensive of their mom, but she wasn't the one needing to be defended there.

And again, that doesn't excuse lying to the cops.

As for cunt wife, I thought pretty poorly of her early on. For the record, I thought keeping Skyler in the dark as he did was one of Walt's biggest failings. That's what actually crossed him over from sympathetic to bad guy for me. Still, over the course of the series, she became far more troublesome and annoying as it went on. Reminded me a great deal of Cheryl David or Sybil Fawlty, actually. At the end, she escalated the situation pretty severely, which was all the more troubling because A: she was an accomplice at that point (I seem to recall her wanting one of the people responsible for Hang whacked a little bit earlier), and B: she knew damn well how much danger they could conceivably be in. All Walt wanted to do was get his family somewhere safe, and she pulls a got damned chef's knife on him.
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Post by: GuineaPig on November 17, 2013, 04:49:15 PM
Whatever.  Skyler's failings don't even come close to Walt's.  They're not remotely in the same league.
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Post by: El Barto on November 17, 2013, 04:53:58 PM
Whatever.  Skyler's failings don't even come close to Walt's.  They're not remotely in the same league.
I agree. I haven't defended Walter. What's your point?
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Post by: sueño on November 18, 2013, 01:55:44 PM
okay...for something to lighten the mood here.  if you haven't seen this, it's a treat!

"Joking Bad"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duKL2dAJN6I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duKL2dAJN6I)
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Post by: KevShmev on November 18, 2013, 01:59:09 PM


As for cunt wife, I thought pretty poorly of her early on. For the record, I thought keeping Skyler in the dark as he did was one of Walt's biggest failings. That's what actually crossed him over from sympathetic to bad guy for me. Still, over the course of the series, she became far more troublesome and annoying as it went on. Reminded me a great deal of Cheryl David or Sybil Fawlty, actually. At the end, she escalated the situation pretty severely, which was all the more troubling because A: she was an accomplice at that point (I seem to recall her wanting one of the people responsible for Hang whacked a little bit earlier), and B: she knew damn well how much danger they could conceivably be in. All Walt wanted to do was get his family somewhere safe, and she pulls a got damned chef's knife on him.

I would never try to excuse her complicity in the whole thing, especially when it came to the money laundering and duplicity.  The irony is that she always hated Walt saying that he did what he did for family, yet that is the same excuse she often used for why she went along with everything.  Her hypocrisy was glaring.  I would never say otherwise. 
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Post by: El Barto on November 18, 2013, 02:37:18 PM


As for cunt wife, I thought pretty poorly of her early on. For the record, I thought keeping Skyler in the dark as he did was one of Walt's biggest failings. That's what actually crossed him over from sympathetic to bad guy for me. Still, over the course of the series, she became far more troublesome and annoying as it went on. Reminded me a great deal of Cheryl David or Sybil Fawlty, actually. At the end, she escalated the situation pretty severely, which was all the more troubling because A: she was an accomplice at that point (I seem to recall her wanting one of the people responsible for Hang whacked a little bit earlier), and B: she knew damn well how much danger they could conceivably be in. All Walt wanted to do was get his family somewhere safe, and she pulls a got damned chef's knife on him.

I would never try to excuse her complicity in the whole thing, especially when it came to the money laundering and duplicity.  The irony is that she always hated Walt saying that he did what he did for family, yet that is the same excuse she often used for why she went along with everything.  Her hypocrisy was glaring.  I would never say otherwise.

You just wouldn't call her a cunt.  :lol  Fair enough.
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Post by: KevShmev on November 18, 2013, 03:03:53 PM
Haha, that is one way to put it. :lol :lol :biggrin:
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Post by: Tom Bombadil on November 18, 2013, 04:37:17 PM


As for cunt wife, I thought pretty poorly of her early on. For the record, I thought keeping Skyler in the dark as he did was one of Walt's biggest failings. That's what actually crossed him over from sympathetic to bad guy for me. Still, over the course of the series, she became far more troublesome and annoying as it went on. Reminded me a great deal of Cheryl David or Sybil Fawlty, actually. At the end, she escalated the situation pretty severely, which was all the more troubling because A: she was an accomplice at that point (I seem to recall her wanting one of the people responsible for Hang whacked a little bit earlier), and B: she knew damn well how much danger they could conceivably be in. All Walt wanted to do was get his family somewhere safe, and she pulls a got damned chef's knife on him.

I would never try to excuse her complicity in the whole thing, especially when it came to the money laundering and duplicity.  The irony is that she always hated Walt saying that he did what he did for family, yet that is the same excuse she often used for why she went along with everything.  Her hypocrisy was glaring.  I would never say otherwise.
This is what really gets me. Skyler was so hypocritical throughout the entire show it just got irritating, but then again that was the point.
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on November 21, 2013, 03:32:37 PM
Funny interview with Vince Gilligan by Adam Savage:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ujPobTnOB0
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Post by: sneakyblueberry on November 24, 2013, 06:20:17 PM
Lost my shit at some of these: https://www.facebook.com/brekinbaed

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Post by: Dimitrius on November 24, 2013, 06:30:08 PM
I've always found those to be pretty horrible.
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Post by: sneakyblueberry on November 24, 2013, 06:44:06 PM
I agree.  Hence 'some' of these.
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Post by: Chino on November 24, 2013, 06:53:56 PM
I laughed out loud at the majority of them  :lol
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Post by: KevShmev on December 02, 2013, 02:02:17 PM
Call me crazy, but Steve Gomez was one of the most underrated characters on the show.  The dynamic with him and Hank was always cool.  Plus, he had two of the best lines ever on the show:

1. When the cousin, who survived the hit on Hank, later died in the hospital, as the doctors were announcing his time of death, Walt and a bunch of the DEA guys were watching from outside the room, and Gomez said, "Burn in hell, you piece of shit."  Absolutely flawless delivery.

2. Early in Season 5, Hank and Gomez brought Mike in for questioning, and at one point, Mike sarcastically asks them where their handcuffs are and if he is under arrest.  Later on, when they talk about the 9 guys in jail (whom Mike was making sure got paid to keep quiet), Gomez said to Mike, "One of your guys is gonna roll on you, and then we'll definitely remember the handcuffs."  I LOVE that line.
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Post by: El Barto on December 02, 2013, 02:12:25 PM
They certainly glossed over the guy's death, which was unfortunate. I get that Hank's was far more, well, everything, but Gomey's passing certainly deserved some recognition.
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Post by: KevShmev on December 02, 2013, 02:16:52 PM
True.  Also, it's awesome when they bust the lawyer of those guys in prison.  When the lawyer sees Gomez and two DEA guys watching him collect the money, he nervously says, "Hey," and Gomez, with a shit-eating grin that basically screams GOTCHA says, "Hey," back to him. :lol :lol :lol
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Post by: Chino on December 02, 2013, 02:53:30 PM
I didn't like Gomez's character. I wasn't a fan of his dialogue. I felt like I was watching CSI (or anyone of those cheesy crime scene shows) every time he opened his mouth.
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Post by: Phoenix87x on December 31, 2013, 02:58:29 PM
Just started watching the show for the first time and I just got to the talking pillow.

(http://static4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120210210408/breakingbad/images/c/c7/1x05_-_The_talking_pillow.jpg)

 :rollin  :rollin :rollin
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Post by: Phoenix87x on January 06, 2014, 12:33:42 PM
Well I just finished watching all 62 episodes in 6 days, and honestly that was probably some of the best television I've ever seen in my life. The first 2 seasons were pretty solid, but this show transcended into legendary territory in the later seasons.

Gus, Mike and Saul were hands down my favorite characters. Just incredible and compelling characters.

I couldn't stand Walt Jr. and I absolutely despised Marie. Jesus.

Almost every episode was solid except for the Fly one and the ATM head smash episode imo. But besides that, this show was just incredible. Bravo
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Post by: KevShmev on January 06, 2014, 12:37:00 PM
Awesome. :hat
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Post by: BlackInk on January 06, 2014, 02:04:32 PM
I couldn't stand Walt Jr.

This. A friend of mine said "oh and you just sympathize with Walt Jr. because he's desabled and all", and I just couldn't see that at all. I just told him that Jr. really annoyed the crap out of me.
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Post by: Joshin U on January 06, 2014, 02:14:08 PM
I couldn't stand Walt Jr.

This. A friend of mine said "oh and you just sympathize with Walt Jr. because he's desabled and all", and I just couldn't see that at all. I just told him that Jr. really annoyed the crap out of me.

But....












But....








Breakfast...












(http://i.imgur.com/HXFJvWd.jpg)
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Post by: rickhawk80 on January 06, 2014, 02:17:38 PM
 :mehlin :mehlin :tup


I loved the show.  Didn't start watching until this past summer then plowed straight through every season in a few weeks in time to watch the final episodes live.  Fantastic television drama.
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Post by: Phoenix87x on January 06, 2014, 02:22:51 PM
Breakfast can never wait...

(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/606/963/dff.gif)
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Post by: El Barto on January 06, 2014, 02:24:10 PM
Hey, didn't I catch a lot of shit for calling Walt Jr. reprehensible?  :lol

Something else that occurred to me the other day. Once the rednecks offed Pinkman's girlfriend (which was in incredibly poor taste, BTW), did it just never occur to him that he was sitting on top of tons of flammable chemicals buried underneath the compound those assholes resided at? In my mind it would have been crystal clear that turning the entire compound into a new Tungsuka crater would be the best possible outcome for everybody involved. Did he really learn that little from working with Walt all that time?
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Post by: Joshin U on January 06, 2014, 02:29:03 PM
Hey, didn't I catch a lot of shit for calling Walt Jr. reprehensible?  :lol

Something else that occurred to me the other day. Once the rednecks offed Pinkman's girlfriend (which was in incredibly poor taste, BTW), did it just never occur to him that he was sitting on top of tons of flammable chemicals buried underneath the compound those assholes resided at? In my mind it would have been crystal clear that turning the entire compound into a new Tungsuka crater would be the best possible outcome for everybody involved. Did he really learn that little from working with Walt all that time?

I assume because of his love for Brock (what kind of Hispanic mom names her son Brock?).  He has a soft spot for kids.
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Post by: El Barto on January 06, 2014, 03:55:18 PM
Hey, didn't I catch a lot of shit for calling Walt Jr. reprehensible?  :lol

Something else that occurred to me the other day. Once the rednecks offed Pinkman's girlfriend (which was in incredibly poor taste, BTW), did it just never occur to him that he was sitting on top of tons of flammable chemicals buried underneath the compound those assholes resided at? In my mind it would have been crystal clear that turning the entire compound into a new Tungsuka crater would be the best possible outcome for everybody involved. Did he really learn that little from working with Walt all that time?

I assume because of his love for Brock (what kind of Hispanic mom names her son Brock?).  He has a soft spot for kids.
Not sure how the peculiarly named bambino fits into it at all. The point would be to blow his tormentors to tiny bits, thereby protecting Brock far more than just leaving his fate up to the whims of his adversaries. If it's because he wants to be a part of Brock's life, that's also not likely. First and foremost the chances of him getting cut loose are round about zero. Also, Brock's gone off to live with his abuela and is infinitely better off because of it (at least now that mom's dead).
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Post by: Bolsters on January 06, 2014, 06:04:39 PM
This. A friend of mine said "oh and you just sympathize with Walt Jr. because he's desabled and all", and I just couldn't see that at all. I just told him that Jr. really annoyed the crap out of me.
Then why don't you just...fucking die already? Just...fucking die.

(http://i.imgur.com/NoQwbBg.jpg)
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Post by: orcus116 on January 06, 2014, 06:53:22 PM
Almost every episode was solid except for the Fly one and the ATM head smash episode imo. But besides that, this show was just incredible. Bravo

wat

Fly and Peekaboo are two of the best episodes in the series.
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Post by: El Barto on January 06, 2014, 07:02:10 PM
Liked Peekaboo. Hated Fly.
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Post by: Tom Bombadil on January 06, 2014, 07:21:53 PM
Liked Peekaboo. Hated Fly.
Opposite for me
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Post by: Zook on January 06, 2014, 07:26:02 PM
That ATM scene was a jaw dropper. Fly was kinda dumb, yeah.
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Post by: Phoenix87x on January 06, 2014, 07:27:29 PM
Fly was the only episode of the entire series that I turned off. About 15 minutes in I realized what the episode was going to be and said "nope"

But 1 slip up out of 62 aint bad at all.

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Post by: Bolsters on January 06, 2014, 07:27:42 PM
I didn't know there were people who don't like Peekaboo. This saddens me.
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Post by: KevShmev on January 06, 2014, 07:33:08 PM
Peekaboo is really good, but I don't think it's one of the best like a lot of people seem to. 

Fly is really enjoyable the 2nd time around, but I can see why some aren't wild about it.
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Post by: Phoenix87x on January 06, 2014, 07:41:32 PM
I didn't mind peekaboo at all until the drug addict parents got home and it quickly became clear that jesse was no threat to them.

The plight of the child and Jesse's comforting of him was dramatically very interesting, but I just lost interest in that last 15 minutes or so.
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Post by: KevShmev on January 07, 2014, 09:38:04 AM
Yep.  It's good from a character-building standpoint in regards to Jesse, but it isn't a compelling enough episode that it warrants many repeated viewings.  Honestly, for me, the best scene in that episode is the one with Walt and Gretchen at the restaurant.

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Post by: Joshin U on January 07, 2014, 10:02:50 AM
Not sure how the peculiarly named bambino fits into it at all. The point would be to blow his tormentors to tiny bits, thereby protecting Brock far more than just leaving his fate up to the whims of his adversaries. If it's because he wants to be a part of Brock's life, that's also not likely. First and foremost the chances of him getting cut loose are round about zero. Also, Brock's gone off to live with his abuela and is infinitely better off because of it (at least now that mom's dead).

I would say it's because he feels personally responsibility for him, given that he's the reason that his mother is now dead.  Besides, despite his rage, I would never peg Jesse as the sacrificial sort: I think his desire to live was stronger than his desire for revenge (except for the person of Todd, who he would have no assurance was even in the area if he decided to blow himself up).  I don't know, I don't think the whole potential situation was really a writing oversight as much as a creative decision.


Also, I'm surprised by the dislike/"meh" attitude toward Peekaboo! Love the episode, and the ending was the most disturbing moment in the series.  I am also on the "love Fly" bandwagon.  The only episode I truly disliked was "Open House", with Mrs. Purple deciding to steal random crap and then cry a lot.
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Post by: El Barto on January 07, 2014, 12:12:42 PM
Not sure how the peculiarly named bambino fits into it at all. The point would be to blow his tormentors to tiny bits, thereby protecting Brock far more than just leaving his fate up to the whims of his adversaries. If it's because he wants to be a part of Brock's life, that's also not likely. First and foremost the chances of him getting cut loose are round about zero. Also, Brock's gone off to live with his abuela and is infinitely better off because of it (at least now that mom's dead).

I would say it's because he feels personally responsibility for him, given that he's the reason that his mother is now dead.  Besides, despite his rage, I would never peg Jesse as the sacrificial sort: I think his desire to live was stronger than his desire for revenge (except for the person of Todd, who he would have no assurance was even in the area if he decided to blow himself up).  I don't know, I don't think the whole potential situation was really a writing oversight as much as a creative decision.
I don't think it's a writing oversight at all. I've got nothing but praise for the writing. It's just interesting speculation about how things could have been done differently. Pinkman was a moron, but even he had to realize that he wasn't leaving the methlab alive. He was going to be a slave up to the point he ran out of methylimine and then they were going to kill him and bury him in the desert. His only foreseeable out was Walter who wanted him dead more than the rednecks. I don't know if it was the best solution or not, but I do know that I'd damn sure have had a plan in place as a fallback.

And Todd would have been the easy one to take out; he was his primary handler. My concern would have been getting the higher ups along with Todd; that's what would insure Brock's safety.
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Post by: KevShmev on January 07, 2014, 12:17:08 PM
Jesse could have easily killed Todd in the scene in the 2nd to last episode where we first see Jesse taken to the meth lab to cook.  When Todd goes to get the keys and latch to hook him up to that thing on the ceiling, he is in front of Jesse for a brief moment, and Jesse could have easily strangled him to death with his cuffs the same way he eventually did.  Granted, at that point, Jesse had been beaten down and likely wasn't at full strength, but at the moment, Jesse didn't know about them knowing about Andrea and Brock (he saw the pic like a minute later), so why not just kill Todd right then and there?  Jesse had to know they were gonna kill him sooner rather than later anyway.
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Post by: Joshin U on January 07, 2014, 01:57:13 PM
As demonstrated by his continued efforts to escape, I really don't think Jesse was smart enough to consign himself to death yet.  His thinking was probably that his luck would hold out eventually.  I totally agree that this direction would be an interesting direction to explore creatively, and I would probably blown up the place, myself.  But fortunately, I'm not Jesse.  Remember when Jesse essentially committed suicide by confronting the two drug dealers who killed the kid? Yeah, not the guy for rational action.
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Post by: KevShmev on January 08, 2014, 12:19:17 PM
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Post by: El Barto on January 15, 2014, 05:28:29 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/MKybStQ.jpg)

The interesting part, as Cracked pointed out, was that the end result was the same either way. The oncology dream team didn't actually buy him any time. He lived two years and effectively died of cancer. It was the belittlement from his worthless family that prompted him to blow millions on treatment, and while he had already decided to cook meth at that point, he would have reached the point he needed to long before things went off the deep end. As I recall, it was paying for the treatment that caused him to have to significantly ramp up the operation.
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Post by: KevShmev on January 16, 2014, 12:13:29 AM
Huh?  No, he effectively died as the result of a fatal gunshot wound.  Sure, he was suffering some more because of the cancer, but that was in large part thanks to being on the run and living in a cabin all by himself and not getting proper treatment, hence his health deteriorating quickly.  Okay, the cancer had come back prior to that, but who knows how long he would have lived had Hank not found out about him and shit hit the fan. 
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Post by: El Barto on January 16, 2014, 01:24:07 PM
I'm not trying to sell their argument. I just find that there are a lot of interesting things to ponder in a show of this quality.

That said, Walt was down to days, if not hours had the bullet not got him. Furthermore, a non-cancerous person could very well have hung on Mr. Orange style after that gut shot. I actually considered it a tie between cancer/led.

As for the medical side of things, didn't the first doctor tell him something to the effect of: with highly aggressive treatment you might have 2 years? He got the highly aggressive treatment and lasted two years. Dream team doctor told him with highly aggressive treatment he could beat the thing. See above. Walt's initial notion was not to blow the money for two years, a decision plenty of people make nowadays. It was his worthless-ass family that badgered him into gambling millions of dollars on the dream team.

Seems pretty reasonable to conclude that had he followed his initial plan and just died, which his worthless-ass family finally wanted anyway, he would have made them some nice money and grown too sick to work before he turned all Heizenberg on everybody.
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Post by: Phoenix87x on January 17, 2014, 04:03:04 PM
I'm sure this was discuss a couple pages back, but why exactly did Gus slit his man's throat with the boxcutter? It was the only aspect of his behavior though-out the show that seemed off.
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Post by: El Barto on January 17, 2014, 04:22:55 PM
A few of reasons. A: it needed to be done. The guy screwed up and became a liability. B: he needed to teach a lesson to two people more important than Victor. C: To provide a little exposition to the fact that Gus was nowhere near as mild mannered and civilized as the air he put on. That's what made Giancarlo Esposito's portrayal of Gus the best of the series was the fact that you always knew he wasn't quite what he seemed, but there was rarely any real evidence of it.
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Post by: Lucidity on January 17, 2014, 08:46:05 PM
It definitely served as a warning to Jesse and Walt that Gus was willing to go to any lengths to ensure that there were no mistakes among his employees, and could make a snap decision to end someone's life like it was nothing. Gus is very strategic in that way; he wanted to scare them.
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Post by: KevShmev on January 17, 2014, 08:46:18 PM
The main reason was because Victor got himself seen by witnesses at Gale's murder scene.  Once he told Mike that, Mike made the call to Gus, and you know Gus asked him if Jesse or Victor got themselves seen, and once Mike told him Victor did, Gus had to take him out.  He couldn't risk him being identified and then being connected to him and the murder.  Doing it in front of Jesse and Walt to send a message was just icing on the cake.
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Post by: Tom Bombadil on January 17, 2014, 10:56:01 PM
The main reason was because Victor got himself seen by witnesses at Gale's murder scene.  Once he told Mike that, Mike made the call to Gus, and you know Gus asked him if Jesse or Victor got themselves seen, and once Mike told him Victor did, Gus had to take him out.  He couldn't risk him being identified and then being connected to him and the murder.  Doing it in front of Jesse and Walt to send a message was just icing on the cake.
This exactly
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Post by: Phoenix87x on January 18, 2014, 02:08:22 PM
The main reason was because Victor got himself seen by witnesses at Gale's murder scene.  Once he told Mike that, Mike made the call to Gus, and you know Gus asked him if Jesse or Victor got themselves seen, and once Mike told him Victor did, Gus had to take him out.  He couldn't risk him being identified and then being connected to him and the murder.  Doing it in front of Jesse and Walt to send a message was just icing on the cake.

That makes perfect sense. I was just getting hung up on the whole Victor trying to cook on his own initiative thing and kind of forgot about him getting seen.
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Post by: MetalJunkie on January 21, 2014, 08:24:33 PM
Just started watching it, starting season 2. I didn't think I would like it, but it's sucked me right in.

Weird question, but I'm coming up on a season where, apparently, a man's head is crushed by an ATM. A head being crushed, oddly, is about the only type of violence that sickens me/I can't bear to watch. Does it show this in detail?
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Post by: Phoenix87x on January 21, 2014, 08:29:17 PM
Does it show this in detail?

Not really.

And you can see it coming a mile away, so if need be you could close your eyes for 2 seconds, but there's no blood or anything. The ATM covers everything, and it almost comes off as a comical, wile e coyote esque kinda moment, hence the reason why I don't like the ending of Peekabo. 
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Post by: MetalJunkie on January 21, 2014, 09:14:19 PM
Rewatching the last seasons of Season 1 because I forgot I fell asleep last time. Holy shit at the fulminated mercury scene. That was awesome.
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Post by: KevShmev on January 21, 2014, 10:12:15 PM
Just started watching it, starting season 2. I didn't think I would like it, but it's sucked me right in.

Weird question, but I'm coming up on a season where, apparently, a man's head is crushed by an ATM. A head being crushed, oddly, is about the only type of violence that sickens me/I can't bear to watch. Does it show this in detail?

Phoenix87x pretty much nailed it.  The moment is more comical than violent.  You should be fine, but without giving too much away, just turn your head quickly the second you hear Jesse yell, "No, no!"
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Post by: El Barto on January 21, 2014, 10:23:04 PM
Weird question, but I'm coming up on a season where, apparently, a man's head is crushed by an ATM. A head being crushed, oddly, is about the only type of violence that sickens me/I can't bear to watch. Does it show this in detail?
Guess you didn't much care for Phil Leotardo's death.  :rollin
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on January 22, 2014, 02:21:57 AM
Wow today I learned that RJ Mitte actually have cerebral palsy in real life. I feel stupid for not knowing that!

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After moving to Hollywood in 2006, he began training with personal talent manager Addison Witt. Mitte and Witt sought out acting opportunities where his disability would serve to educate viewers, which led him to audition for the role in Breaking Bad.
That's pretty cool!
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Post by: KevShmev on January 22, 2014, 07:36:11 AM
Weird question, but I'm coming up on a season where, apparently, a man's head is crushed by an ATM. A head being crushed, oddly, is about the only type of violence that sickens me/I can't bear to watch. Does it show this in detail?
Guess you didn't much care for Phil Leotardo's death.  :rollin

 :lol :lol
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Post by: MetalJunkie on January 22, 2014, 08:12:59 AM
Weird question, but I'm coming up on a season where, apparently, a man's head is crushed by an ATM. A head being crushed, oddly, is about the only type of violence that sickens me/I can't bear to watch. Does it show this in detail?
Guess you didn't much care for Phil Leotardo's death.  :rollin
Had to Google him. I've never watched The Sopranos.

Edit: Found it on a wiki. That would be a huge noep for me. I also refuse to watch the Braveheart "mace to the face" scene or the Inglorious Basterds baseball bat scene. It's weird, nothing else bothers me. I think it stems from some vivid nightmares I had growing up. I dunno.
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Post by: TimmyHiggy on January 22, 2014, 09:23:17 AM
DW, there is no detail shown. He is under the ATM, and then you see it tip back and hear a sound effect. No gore.
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Post by: Big Hath on January 22, 2014, 09:38:20 AM
Weird question, but I'm coming up on a season where, apparently, a man's head is crushed by an ATM. A head being crushed, oddly, is about the only type of violence that sickens me/I can't bear to watch. Does it show this in detail?
Guess you didn't much care for Phil Leotardo's death.  :rollin
Had to Google him. I've never watched The Sopranos.

Edit: Found it on a wiki. That would be a huge noep for me. I also refuse to watch the Braveheart "mace to the face" scene or the Inglorious Basterds baseball bat scene. It's weird, nothing else bothers me. I think it stems from some vivid nightmares I had growing up. I dunno.

I assume you don't watch The Walking Dead then.  Lot's of zombie skulls get crushed in that.  :lol

Also, The Untouchables has a "baseball bat scene" involving Al Capone.
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Post by: MetalJunkie on January 22, 2014, 09:51:41 AM
Weird question, but I'm coming up on a season where, apparently, a man's head is crushed by an ATM. A head being crushed, oddly, is about the only type of violence that sickens me/I can't bear to watch. Does it show this in detail?
Guess you didn't much care for Phil Leotardo's death.  :rollin
Had to Google him. I've never watched The Sopranos.

Edit: Found it on a wiki. That would be a huge noep for me. I also refuse to watch the Braveheart "mace to the face" scene or the Inglorious Basterds baseball bat scene. It's weird, nothing else bothers me. I think it stems from some vivid nightmares I had growing up. I dunno.

I assume you don't watch The Walking Dead then.  Lot's of zombie skulls get crushed in that.  :lol

Also, The Untouchables has a "baseball bat scene" involving Al Capone.
I've seen the first season of TWD. The Untouchables scene happens off-screen. You see DeNiro's face or the diners throughout.
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Post by: Big Hath on January 22, 2014, 11:02:08 AM
I've seen the first season of TWD. The Untouchables scene happens off-screen. You see DeNiro's face or the diners throughout.

yeah, didn't know if it was the thought of it or actually seeing it that got to you.
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Post by: Tom Bombadil on January 22, 2014, 04:43:39 PM
I've seen the first season of TWD. The Untouchables scene happens off-screen. You see DeNiro's face or the diners throughout.

yeah, didn't know if it was the thought of it or actually seeing it that got to you.
That was a great scene.
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Post by: Chino on January 22, 2014, 06:49:15 PM
Rewatching the last seasons of Season 1 because I forgot I fell asleep last time. Holy shit at the fulminated mercury scene. That was awesome.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-AUfunW0Ez38/Tpp83GJps1I/AAAAAAAAACw/SXvgM7ZxHzA/gamer-gifs-charizard.gif)
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Post by: sneakyblueberry on January 22, 2014, 11:42:39 PM
^holy shit thats awesome.
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Post by: MetalJunkie on January 26, 2014, 07:23:42 AM
I found it more awesome without the pokestuffs. Apparently I'm one of a handful of people on this planet that doesn't like Pokemon.
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Post by: El Barto on January 26, 2014, 12:08:15 PM
I found it more awesome without the pokestuffs. Apparently I'm one of a handful of people on this planet that doesn't like Pokemon.
I didn't even know it was Pokemon.  :lol
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Post by: sneakyblueberry on January 26, 2014, 02:16:20 PM
I was never a huge Pokemon fan either, but its awesome cos Charizard
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Post by: KevShmev on January 26, 2014, 02:18:38 PM
That moment is awesome enough already, without the silly addition to it, which I also didn't know was Pokemon. :lol :lol
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Post by: sneakyblueberry on January 26, 2014, 02:23:27 PM
Lol.  Yes its an awesome moment,  but THAT is an awesome gif.  Stop being a bunch of old fogeys  :hat
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Post by: MetalJunkie on January 27, 2014, 08:06:36 PM
Walter's class really sucks. I've never been in a high school class with kids so uninvolved.
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Post by: TioJorge on January 28, 2014, 09:13:46 AM
So they've confirmed that Johnathan Banks (Mike) is going to be in Better Caul Saul (It really should've been spelled like that...I mean c'mon). This show might be an awesome mix-up of hilarity and darkness. I hope they strike a good balance between storyline and funny antics with a bit of that macabre tone that was always present in the series.
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Post by: RodrigoAltaf on January 28, 2014, 10:27:02 AM
 Saul Goodman = "It´s All Good Man". Hard to believe, but I only figured this out a few days ago!
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Post by: TioJorge on January 28, 2014, 10:40:37 AM
 :laugh: Yup.. I've made that pun way too many times... pun? Is that a pun? Play on words? Either way, yeah it's a goodie.
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Post by: MetalJunkie on January 28, 2014, 11:57:33 AM
So if you're in a legal bind and you have the choice... Do you go with Leo Getz or Saul Goodman?
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Post by: j on January 28, 2014, 03:22:52 PM
Walter's class really sucks. I've never been in a high school class with kids so uninvolved.

Really?  Did you go to public school?

In other news, my kid makes a face like Tio Salamanca when he's taking a shit, and he also makes the nasal breathing sounds.

-J
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Post by: Chino on January 28, 2014, 04:42:04 PM
I'm super excited for BCS!!!
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Post by: sneakyblueberry on January 28, 2014, 06:08:32 PM
Walter's class really sucks. I've never been in a high school class with kids so uninvolved.

Really?  Did you go to public school?

In other news, my kid makes a face like Tio Salamanca when he's taking a shit, and he also makes the nasal breathing sounds.

-J

A) lol I was just going to say the same thing

B) that is the cutest, funniest shit I've read today haha
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Post by: Zook on January 28, 2014, 06:11:21 PM
So if you're in a legal bind and you have the choice... Do you go with Leo Getz or Saul Goodman?

I prefer Lionel Hutz.
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Post by: El Barto on January 28, 2014, 06:21:27 PM
So if you're in a legal bind and you have the choice... Do you go with Leo Getz or Saul Goodman?

I prefer Lionel Hutz.
Works on contingency?
No! Money down!
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Post by: MetalJunkie on January 28, 2014, 10:04:26 PM
Walter's class really sucks. I've never been in a high school class with kids so uninvolved.

Really?  Did you go to public school?
I did, in fact. The kids were never zombies, especially in any of the science classes (which usually had the cooler, more lenient teachers). If they were ignoring the teacher, they were at least chattering among themselves.
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Post by: MetalJunkie on January 28, 2014, 11:38:33 PM
Half-way through season 3. Walter and Jesse falling out.  :sadpanda:
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Post by: MetalJunkie on February 16, 2014, 08:53:10 PM
I'm the ultimate thread-killer, apparently. This thread cannot die, dammit. Next thing I'm going to start watching Dexter and I'll kill that thread, too.

Anyway. Just had to mention how stupid Gus's death scene was.
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Post by: El Barto on February 16, 2014, 09:21:10 PM
I recall Giancarlo Esposito talking about the bit with him adjusting his tie. When a person suffers trauma and gets all shocky, they tend to revert back to simple, reflexive actions. He envisioned Gustavo on autopilot and reverting back to base, instinctive acts while winding down. I liked it. Add to that the editing of the scene was tip-top.
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Post by: KevShmev on February 17, 2014, 01:17:53 PM
Right after Gus kneels to the ground dead, I love the shot in the background of Hector's wheelchair, completely mangled.
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Post by: RodrigoAltaf on February 17, 2014, 01:45:50 PM
 I don´t think Gus´ death scene was stupid - to me, it´s one of the most memorable scenes of the show. Just as other less obvious ones:

 - the "pizza on the roof" scene;

 - Skylar´s "shutupshutupshutupshutupshutup" meltdown with Marie;

 - Hank and Walt stalking Gus Fring looking for clues when Hank sings "Eye of the Tiger";

 - Gail´s death scene;

 - Tortuga´s head on the back of a turtle!

 - The first time Saul meets Skylar - he says something like "I see Walt chooses his women just like he chooses his lawyers - only the very best, with just the right amount of dirty"
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Post by: KevShmev on February 17, 2014, 01:50:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdhTL5G32Gw

Walt's reaction is awesome, almost like, he had to be a jackass the minute he met my wife. :lol :lol :lol
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Post by: RodrigoAltaf on February 17, 2014, 01:56:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdhTL5G32Gw

Walt's reaction is awesome, almost like, he had to be a jackass the minute he met my wife. :lol :lol :lol

That was quick!

 Hey I was wondering if you could help me find a particular scene: it´s the one where Skinny Pete brings Walt to meet Tuco for the first time - Pete looks at the camera in disdain and shakes his arms, as if he´s asking " ´sup, mothafuckas??!?!". I can´t explain why, but that scene was awesome!
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Post by: TioJorge on February 17, 2014, 02:29:00 PM
Probably the music, I absolutely love that track, "Los Pistoleros" by Jonaty Garcia. It's the episode titled "Crazy Handful of Nothin'" in which Walt has the most epic scene of exploding the fulminated mercury on the floor of Tuco's 'hideout'. Also the birth of Heisenberg (and the shaved head)...quite the legendary episode in retrospect.

Doing a quick search on Youtube was fruitless...most of the scenes from the episode are of the exploding fulminated mercury. But maybe with enough searching you could find it.
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Post by: MetalJunkie on February 17, 2014, 04:25:02 PM
I don´t think Gus´ death scene was stupid - to me
I don't know. The explosion blew the door off at an incredible speed (and hospital doors are heavy), ripped off his face, part of his jaw, and completely removed his eye from the socket. Seems far-fetched that he would be able to walk and fix his tie, if only for a moment. I mean, it's a minor nitpick, though. It doesn't take anything away from the series or even the episode.
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Post by: Jamesman42 on February 17, 2014, 04:33:26 PM
They did it for effect, I agree that he wouldn't *really* straighten his tie as a final gesture before collapsing.
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Post by: TioJorge on February 17, 2014, 04:37:33 PM
People are so damn interesting in what they nit-pick and deem what is realistic and unrealistic in terms of television/movies.  :rollin

It's fascinating, really.  :corn
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Post by: antigoon on February 17, 2014, 04:53:10 PM
Breaking Bad has always been a bit surrealist, which is why I didn't mind Gus's death scene at all.
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Post by: Outcrier on February 17, 2014, 05:53:47 PM
Breaking Bad has always been a bit surrealist, which is why I didn't mind Gus's death scene at all.

Yeah, is more to make a cool scene than "it really did happened(he didn't walked and fixed his tie)".
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Post by: MetalJunkie on February 17, 2014, 07:12:07 PM
"Say my name."
"You're Heisenberg."
"You're goddamn right."

Holy fuck.
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Post by: KevShmev on February 17, 2014, 08:36:56 PM
With anything on television or film, there are times you have to suspend belief and just go with it.  Plot holes are much, much worse than the occasional over the top-ness, like Gus's death scene, for example.
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Post by: El Barto on February 17, 2014, 09:41:02 PM
I don´t think Gus´ death scene was stupid - to me
I don't know. The explosion blew the door off at an incredible speed (and hospital doors are heavy), ripped off his face, part of his jaw, and completely removed his eye from the socket. Seems far-fetched that he would be able to walk and fix his tie, if only for a moment. I mean, it's a minor nitpick, though. It doesn't take anything away from the series or even the episode.
It depends on how much and which part of his brain was damaged. From stills of him adjusting his tie it looks like not much. The front, right took the brunt of the blast, leaving the all important brain stem relatively unscathed. Consider that undamaged parts of the brain will continue functioning as long as it has oxygenated blood. This is why plenty of people remain conscious and even recover from gunshots to the head (Robert Kennedy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Robert_F._Kennedy)). The heart will continue delivering that blood for 10-15 seconds after it sustains massive trauma (John Deering (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Deering)), so bleeding out isn't a particularly quick process, either. In Fring's case all that was required was for enough of the brain that dealt with motor skills to remain functional for him to do what he did. He wasn't going to play chess or discuss Nietzsche, but basic instinctive behavior was certainly plausible. 

Of course this also requires functional arms and legs, and that's probably far more problematic than the brain injury.
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Post by: MetalJunkie on February 17, 2014, 10:05:52 PM
Of course this also requires functional arms and legs, and that's probably far more problematic than the brain injury.
I think this may have just pinpointed my particular issue with that scene. A shockwave powerful enough to blast that heavy door off its hinges certainly would have shattered or broken bones, especially considering his proximity to the bomb. For a guy who was at ground zero, he had great posture.
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Post by: TioJorge on February 17, 2014, 10:13:12 PM
I don´t think Gus´ death scene was stupid - to me
I don't know. The explosion blew the door off at an incredible speed (and hospital doors are heavy), ripped off his face, part of his jaw, and completely removed his eye from the socket. Seems far-fetched that he would be able to walk and fix his tie, if only for a moment. I mean, it's a minor nitpick, though. It doesn't take anything away from the series or even the episode.
It depends on how much and which part of his brain was damaged. From stills of him adjusting his tie it looks like not much. The front, right took the brunt of the blast, leaving the all important brain stem relatively unscathed. Consider that undamaged parts of the brain will continue functioning as long as it has oxygenated blood. This is why plenty of people remain conscious and even recover from gunshots to the head (Robert Kennedy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Robert_F._Kennedy)). The heart will continue delivering that blood for 10-15 seconds after it sustains massive trauma (John Deering (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Deering)), so bleeding out isn't a particularly quick process, either. In Fring's case all that was required was for enough of the brain that dealt with motor skills to remain functional for him to do what he did. He wasn't going to play chess or discuss Nietzsche, but basic instinctive behavior was certainly plausible. 

Of course this also requires functional arms and legs, and that's probably far more problematic than the brain injury.

Holy shit. Suspended belief and rational logic. GOLLY GEE!  :heart yew, Barto.

Jesus fucking christ people. Do you honestly need every piece of fiction to fit reality EXACTLY and proportionally!? Beyond that, all you nay-sayers, have you seen this exact scene happen? Have you been in this exact situation? If not, then quiet yourselves and suspend belief for just a moment and attempt to enjoy yourselves in a fictional world. If you've seen a man blown up by a home-made bomb on a wheelchair, then yeah, bitch and moan all you like. If you haven't, then shut your fingers and please, for the love of santa, realize what the fuck you're complaining over is a television show based in complete fiction. It's like you mofos actually think that you're a valid opinion on the matter of people being blown up by wheelchair bombs and that this is a real issue in the world. :rollin :rollin
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Post by: KevShmev on February 17, 2014, 10:17:05 PM
LOL, agreed.  It's like, even if it was unrealistic, why does it matter?  Hell, we could nit pick to death just about every dramatic film or TV show ever made, if we are so damn concerned about everything being completely realistic and believable.
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Post by: El Barto on February 17, 2014, 10:23:16 PM
I'm fine with suspension of disbelief and not nitpicking every element of a movie. In fact I'm usually the last person to notice non-sequiturs such as that. However calling something stupid is a different matter, which is what I was commenting on. That implies that VG and GE didn't give any though whatsoever to realism, and I think that's a bit unfair; hence my possible explanation.
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Post by: MetalJunkie on February 17, 2014, 10:31:12 PM
I don´t think Gus´ death scene was stupid - to me
I don't know. The explosion blew the door off at an incredible speed (and hospital doors are heavy), ripped off his face, part of his jaw, and completely removed his eye from the socket. Seems far-fetched that he would be able to walk and fix his tie, if only for a moment. I mean, it's a minor nitpick, though. It doesn't take anything away from the series or even the episode.
It depends on how much and which part of his brain was damaged. From stills of him adjusting his tie it looks like not much. The front, right took the brunt of the blast, leaving the all important brain stem relatively unscathed. Consider that undamaged parts of the brain will continue functioning as long as it has oxygenated blood. This is why plenty of people remain conscious and even recover from gunshots to the head (Robert Kennedy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Robert_F._Kennedy)). The heart will continue delivering that blood for 10-15 seconds after it sustains massive trauma (John Deering (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Deering)), so bleeding out isn't a particularly quick process, either. In Fring's case all that was required was for enough of the brain that dealt with motor skills to remain functional for him to do what he did. He wasn't going to play chess or discuss Nietzsche, but basic instinctive behavior was certainly plausible. 

Of course this also requires functional arms and legs, and that's probably far more problematic than the brain injury.

Holy shit. Suspended belief and rational logic. GOLLY GEE!  :heart yew, Barto.

Jesus fucking christ people. Do you honestly need every piece of fiction to fit reality EXACTLY and proportionally!? Beyond that, all you nay-sayers, have you seen this exact scene happen? Have you been in this exact situation? If not, then quiet yourselves and suspend belief for just a moment and attempt to enjoy yourselves in a fictional world. If you've seen a man blown up by a home-made bomb on a wheelchair, then yeah, bitch and moan all you like. If you haven't, then shut your fingers and please, for the love of santa, realize what the fuck you're complaining over is a television show based in complete fiction. It's like you mofos actually think that you're a valid opinion on the matter of people being blown up by wheelchair bombs and that this is a real issue in the world. :rollin :rollin
Well damn. I guess I just shouldn't have any opinions at all, unless they're the same as yours.

I wonder, how does nitpicking a minor detail compare to, I don't know, getting one's panties in a wad over a post someone made?
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Post by: TioJorge on February 17, 2014, 10:38:08 PM
Aw... My panties aren't in a wad, I'm just baffled over people caring about something so fictional. I never said you couldn't have your own opinions, either; it's just that my opinion is that your opinion is ridiculous. If you can deal with that minor detail then I suppose you're good to go. Otherwise, what response do you want? I really don't care what anyone thinks of the show, but to let some kind of detail of reality negate a show that is entirely based in fantasy ruin it for you is preposterous. That is my opinion of your opinion. Nothing against you...just differing from your thoughts on that one tiny aspect of a show that has many more ridiculous things going for it.

I'm gonna go ahead and say agree to disagree. So you can stop responding to me now. Or not; whatever pleases you.  :tup
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Post by: MetalJunkie on February 18, 2014, 02:35:57 AM
I really don't care what anyone thinks of the show, but to let some kind of detail of reality negate a show that is entirely based in fantasy ruin it for you is preposterous.
I mean, it's a minor nitpick, though. It doesn't take anything away from the series or even the episode.
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Post by: sueño on March 03, 2014, 11:28:49 AM
http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2014/03/03/breaking_bad_remix_seasons_3_5_by_placeboing_is_a_blast_watch_video.html
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Post by: Chino on March 03, 2014, 11:58:32 AM
I've been debating all morning whether or not I should preorder one of these.

http://www.firebox.com/product/6294/Blue-Sky-Snow-Globe

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Post by: Tom Bombadil on March 03, 2014, 12:14:35 PM
You should totally get one.
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Post by: Phoenix87x on March 03, 2014, 12:39:41 PM
You should totally get one.
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Post by: Zook on March 03, 2014, 12:46:38 PM
You should totally get me one.
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Post by: GentlemanofDread on March 03, 2014, 12:48:47 PM
You should totally get me one.
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Post by: MetalJunkie on March 03, 2014, 11:23:47 PM
Finished with the series! I can finally read this thread in all its glory now.

So I kind of wish they spent more time showing Walt basking in his empire. Expanded to Europe? Oh, now he's retired. Heisenberg made a name for himself; he should have spent more time at the top.
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Post by: TimmyHiggy on March 04, 2014, 06:49:56 AM
Walt couldn't really bask in his empire though, it got out of control and he ended up having to spend all his efforts dealing with the consequences of being a meth kingpin and his family breaking down around him!
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Post by: Grizz on March 24, 2014, 07:38:57 PM
I just finished the finale, after... I'm not sure, less than two months. (Suck it AT&T, I'm milking you for all the bandwidth you've got)

Holy crap.
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Post by: Dublagent66 on March 25, 2014, 01:26:37 PM
I'm in the final season and just finished the episode when Gus gets taken out.  About goddamn time.  The guy was a monster.
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Post by: Chino on March 25, 2014, 01:28:14 PM
Was his character not to your satisfaction?
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Post by: El Barto on March 25, 2014, 01:35:48 PM
I'm in the final season and just finished the episode when Gus gets taken out.  About goddamn time.  The guy was a monster.
Interesting. I wouldn't consider him a monster at all. Certainly not when compared to Walt. With Gus it was strictly business, and he was very, very good at business. Walt was really into it and truly got off on being Heisenberg. Personally, I thought Gus was the perfect type of bad guy for any show or movie. You want somebody so insanely good at what they do that you just have to root for somebody, anybody else, yet isn't annoying or smug about it. Someone who is just naturally talented at doing bad guy stuff while going on and doing normal-person stuff on the side. 
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Post by: KevShmev on March 25, 2014, 01:43:07 PM
Gus ordering the murder of that kid (who had killed Combo) and murdering Victor in front of Mike, Walt and Jesse, are both far worse than anything Walt ever did.  And remember that Gus used to routinely go taunt an old man in a wheelchair who could no longer speak.  Yes, Hector had murdered Gus' buddy 20 years earlier, but still, that is a pretty monstrous act. 

That aside, he was a fantastically written character, and Esposito did a phenomenal job playing him.
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Post by: Chino on March 25, 2014, 01:44:58 PM
Gus was way worse than Walter. Gus was all about the criminal enterprise and the production of Meth. He was just really smart and knew that the business act (legit skills though) was what was required to not get caught.
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Post by: KevShmev on March 25, 2014, 01:51:01 PM
The only argument I could see is that Walt did a dastardly act - poisoning Brock - against an innocent person, while all of Gus' monstrous acts were committed against people who were bad people, too (the kid who shot Combo, Victor, Hector, etc.).  But even still, everything Walt did, he did out of self-preservation (for himself or Jesse, his partner), while Gus taunting Hector served no other purpose other than to add to the misery of an old man in a wheelchair.  And Walt did seem genuinely remorseful about poisoning Brock (see: his reaction when Jesse tells him on the roof that Brock was touch and go for a while, but is gonna make it); Gus was never remorseful about anything he did. 
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Post by: El Barto on March 25, 2014, 03:04:26 PM
Taunting Hector is a valid point. Can't really defend that. Having the kid and Victor whacked were just business matters and don't trouble me. The problem with Hector is that the taunting was something that Gus seemed to enjoy. While Walt certainly made business decisions, he really enjoyed his new persona, and it could be argued that much of his naughty business could be attributed to his interest in being Heisenberg. I suppose it's the difference between being a cold an calculating bad guy and being an emotional asshole of a bad guy.

A secondary aspect to which one was the bigger monster is their respective families. We can only speculate about Gus, but based on how regarded people close to him I suspect that he never would have put his family (if he had one) through what Walt routinely subjected his to.
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Post by: Phoenix87x on March 25, 2014, 06:38:41 PM
Does anyone else subscribe to the theory that Gus's buddy that got killed was actually his lover? And so therefore there's extra incentive to torture Hector.

When I first heard this perspective I was quick to dismiss it, but after thinking about it more, just maybe...

I'm curious to see what others think.
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Post by: El Barto on March 25, 2014, 06:44:51 PM
Does anyone else subscribe to the theory that Gus's buddy that got killed was actually his lover? And so therefore there's extra incentive to torture Hector.

Esposito treated Gus as if there were fact, and VG said that while he would never confirm or deny it that they probably were. So yeah, I subscribe to it.
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Post by: MetalJunkie on March 25, 2014, 10:43:42 PM
Does anyone else subscribe to the theory that Gus's buddy that got killed was actually his lover? And so therefore there's extra incentive to torture Hector.

When I first heard this perspective I was quick to dismiss it, but after thinking about it more, just maybe...

I'm curious to see what others think.
I think it could be, but I'm glad we don't know for sure.  Just like we don't know with any random stranger we might meet on a daily basis. If VG labelled Gus as homosexual, I think I would feel like it was shoehorned in for the purpose of saying "Look! Diversity!" That's certainly how I felt about Dumbledore's posthumous outing.

All that matters is that Gus and Max were close enough that Max's death resonated so much that Gus would exact his revenge two decades later.
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Post by: KevShmev on March 26, 2014, 11:54:27 AM


A secondary aspect to which one was the bigger monster is their respective families. We can only speculate about Gus, but based on how regarded people close to him I suspect that he never would have put his family (if he had one) through what Walt routinely subjected his to.

That may or may not be true, but it is important to remember that Walt always did everything he could to protect his family.  Plus, we never saw Gus' family, or whatever family he might have had, so we don't know what happened there.  It appeared as if he simply stayed single and had no kids, so as not to subject them to the life he had chosen for himself, but remember that Walt already had a wife, son and baby on the way when he got his death sentence/cancer.  Not justifying it, but merely saying there is a difference. 
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Post by: Grizz on March 26, 2014, 12:31:27 PM
I'm fairly certain that Gus has a daughter.
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Post by: TioJorge on March 26, 2014, 01:02:25 PM
He's said he has 'children', who have never been shown in the show; nor any other family member. So basically it's as good as hearing it from the horse's mouth, except this horse is a lying, manipulative, meticulous motherfucker.

I don't think he does. I think that his business is his family and his children are all the billions upon billions of little crystals.
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Post by: Dublagent66 on March 26, 2014, 02:55:26 PM
Was his character not to your satisfaction?

Well, I thought I made that pretty clear in my post.  The character had major flaws and I'm glad they killed him off.  He let things get out of control and then killed and threatened others to make up for it.  He thought he was untouchable and he thought wrong.  It's always a pleasure to see karma come back around and kick some ass.  In this case, it happened to be Walt, who is the central character of the series.  The show began to revolve too much around Gus.  I'm glad they got back on the right track.
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Post by: El Barto on March 26, 2014, 04:40:56 PM
Huh. Completely different take on Gus than mine. I never saw him as arrogant or seemingly untouchable. He was level headed and calculating but knew when to be nervous. As for his faults and letting things get out of control, they're both rolled into one big ball named Walter White. His mistake was taking on Walt when he knew it was a bad move. He feared Jessie's involvement and his instincts were eventually completely correct (it was because of Jessie that WW whacked the two gangbangers ending his relationship with Gus). Only then did things get completely out of control. Up until then he'd been running a pretty tight ship. He should have let Gale handle the cooking and been content, which probably would have been better for Walt, as well.

I'm not going to say that Gus was a good guy, but still, I admire somebody who's very good at what they choose to do. I think in Gus's case the problem was that he was so cold and logical in his dealings that he looked monstrous, even though there were certainly far worse people in the series.
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Post by: MetalJunkie on March 26, 2014, 05:15:24 PM
Was his character not to your satisfaction?

Well, I thought I made that pretty clear in my post.  The character had major flaws and I'm glad they killed him off.  He let things get out of control and then killed and threatened others to make up for it.  He thought he was untouchable and he thought wrong.  It's always a pleasure to see karma come back around and kick some ass.  In this case, it happened to be Walt, who is the central character of the series.  The show began to revolve too much around Gus.  I'm glad they got back on the right track.
Whoosh.
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Post by: Grizz on March 26, 2014, 06:06:14 PM
He's said he has 'children', who have never been shown in the show; nor any other family member. So basically it's as good as hearing it from the horse's mouth, except this horse is a lying, manipulative, meticulous motherfucker.

I don't think he does. I think that his business is his family and his children are all the billions upon billions of little crystals.
I swear I saw a toy in his house
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Post by: KevShmev on March 26, 2014, 10:40:28 PM
Was his character not to your satisfaction?

Well, I thought I made that pretty clear in my post.  The character had major flaws and I'm glad they killed him off.  He let things get out of control and then killed and threatened others to make up for it.  He thought he was untouchable and he thought wrong.  It's always a pleasure to see karma come back around and kick some ass.  In this case, it happened to be Walt, who is the central character of the series.  The show began to revolve too much around Gus.  I'm glad they got back on the right track.
Whoosh.

My sentiment exactly. :lol :lol
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Post by: Dublagent66 on March 27, 2014, 10:28:52 AM
Huh. Completely different take on Gus than mine. I never saw him as arrogant or seemingly untouchable. He was level headed and calculating but knew when to be nervous. As for his faults and letting things get out of control, they're both rolled into one big ball named Walter White. His mistake was taking on Walt when he knew it was a bad move. He feared Jessie's involvement and his instincts were eventually completely correct (it was because of Jessie that WW whacked the two gangbangers ending his relationship with Gus). Only then did things get completely out of control. Up until then he'd been running a pretty tight ship. He should have let Gale handle the cooking and been content, which probably would have been better for Walt, as well.

I'm not going to say that Gus was a good guy, but still, I admire somebody who's very good at what they choose to do. I think in Gus's case the problem was that he was so cold and logical in his dealings that he looked monstrous, even though there were certainly far worse people in the series.

He made bad choices despite his instincts and somehow that's admirable?  He ran a pretty tight ship up until the point when he got killed and his lab destroyed.  I'm looking at the result of his choices.  It's pretty straight forward, but keep in mind that I haven't seen anything beyond the episode when he died.  Maybe something happens later on I don't know about yet.
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Post by: El Barto on March 27, 2014, 10:35:10 AM
Other than hiring on Walter's unpredictable ass I'm not coming up with any bad decisions. In fact, even after taking WW on board and having a shit-ton of chaos thrown into the mix he still made one sound decision after another. Walt eventually outplayed him, but I don't think that was really the result of mistakes or bad decisions. If you want to get all drama traditionalist on the thing, I suppose you could say that his ongoing issue with Hector was a fatal flaw that opened the door for Walt to gain an advantage, but honestly I think that would be a stretch. Particularly since it still comes down to the fact that it was taking on Walter in the first place that screwed everything up.
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Post by: KevShmev on March 27, 2014, 12:53:14 PM
Walt taking out Gus was literally the perfect storm. 

Hell, if Mike doesn't get shot and hadn't been recovering in Mexico, does Walt's plan to take out Gus work?  Probably not.   

Or if Jesse doesn't remember Gus going to see Hector.

Or if Hector doesn't agree to take out Gus.

Or if Tyrus finds the bomb on Gus' wheelchair.

etc.

Any number of things could have happened to have prevented Walt's plan from working.  It was the perfect storm.
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Post by: Chino on March 27, 2014, 02:35:16 PM
Walt taking out Gus was literally the perfect storm. 

Hell, if Mike doesn't get shot and hadn't been recovering in Mexico, does Walt's plan to take out Gus work?  Probably not.   

Or if Jesse doesn't remember Gus going to see Hector.

Or if Hector doesn't agree to take out Gus.

Or if Tyrus finds the bomb on Gus' wheelchair.

etc.

Any number of things could have happened to have prevented Walt's plan from working.  It was the perfect storm.

What if Walter just stuck to cooking in the desert and selling small batches with Jessie as the runner? That probably would have gone off without a hitch.
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Post by: KevShmev on March 27, 2014, 02:39:35 PM
Right, except more of their street dealers would have gotten killed* or busted by the cops, and Walt never would have made enough money to take care of his family.

*likely by associates of Gus, who would have viewed the blue as a threat to their business. 
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Post by: El Barto on March 27, 2014, 03:12:49 PM
Gus never would have killed somebody who could make a superior product to his own. Gail is the one who would have been in jeopardy.

Besides which, Gus already knew about Heizenburg produced meth. That was the sample he gave to Gail. Presumably he had already intended to compete alongside him. Particularly since Gus was nationwide and WW/J were strictly small time ABQ guys. Not really much conflict of interest.

As for the whole perfect storm thing, yeah sure. Happens all the time. Sometimes Gus was on the good side, and finally he was on the bad one. Same thing with Walt. What if Tuco just capped WW when he walked into the safe house? What if he'd smashed up that chunk of Hg(CNO)2 to snort up? What if he'd called WW's bluff? What if he just waited, followed him home and killed his whole family? This is television. Complicated schemes always tend to work out well for somebody.
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Post by: Dublagent66 on March 27, 2014, 03:52:08 PM
Ok, so how is anything in the series a stretch?  Like you said, it's TV.  Any of those scenarios could've played out depending on the writer's direction.  It still doesn't change the fact that I'm glad Gus screwed up and that's the reason he's gone.
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Post by: El Barto on March 27, 2014, 03:58:54 PM
Ok, so how is anything in the series a stretch?  Like you said, it's TV.  Any of those scenarios could've played out depending on the writer's direction.  It still doesn't change the fact that I'm glad Gus screwed up and that's the reason he's gone.
Well, if I understand your question there's an answer to that. Yes, the perfect storm events are up to the writer's discretion, so how various scenarios turn out shouldn't be considered a stretch. However, what I referred to as a stretch was an analysis of Gus Fring's character based on what was presented to us. I think it's fair to say that the portrait of Gus presented to us was reasonable or monstrous, and suggesting that some opinions on the matter are a reach is quite reasonable. It's the difference between discussing what we were shown and how we interpret aspects of that.

And for the record I have no problem with you being glad Gus is dead. I certainly understand how he was unsettling to people. I'm not faulting you or your opinion. I'm discussing one of the more interesting characters on the show and the true nature of his character is intriguing to me. Whether he or WW were the bigger monsters is a very fascinating subject, in fact.
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Post by: Dublagent66 on March 27, 2014, 04:21:22 PM
Agreed and there are varied opinions nonetheless.  Fair enough and I appreciate your willingness to discuss instead of just dismissing it with a *whoosh*.   :lol
I still have about 15 episodes to go, so who's the bigger monster still remains to be seen at least from my perspective.
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Post by: El Barto on March 27, 2014, 04:45:57 PM
Agreed and there are varied opinions nonetheless.  Fair enough and I appreciate your willingness to discuss instead of just dismissing it with a *whoosh*.   :lol
I still have about 15 episodes to go, so who's the bigger monster still remains to be seen at least from my perspective.
Well, I think people tend to view the whole Gus part of the story as the highlight (and I agree with that). I think you're the first person who came out and said it was good that they're finally done with Gus.  :lol  But like you said, I was actually more interested in finding out why someone would think that, given my fondness for him as a character, hence the discussion.

And before anybody brings it up and possibly spoils it, the, I guess we'd call him the antagonist, in the second half of season five is actually every bit as interesting. I enjoyed watching that every bit as much as Gus doing his thing. I'd call that entire 8 episode stretch the other highlight of the series.
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Post by: MetalJunkie on March 27, 2014, 04:57:14 PM
I wonder if Gus would have decided to kill Walt, had Walt not been so paranoid about Gus killing him.
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Post by: KevShmev on March 27, 2014, 11:50:48 PM
Agreed and there are varied opinions nonetheless.  Fair enough and I appreciate your willingness to discuss instead of just dismissing it with a *whoosh*.   :lol
 

Well, you saying they got back on the right track by getting rid of Gus implies that focusing on him so much was the wrong, when, in reality, he was, more or less, a plot device to tell the Walter White story, so in that respect, I can see why someone thought that fact kind of went over your head.  I mean, take Gus out of the entire storyline and then it's just, what, Hank and Jesse cooking in the RV in the desert forever?  Yep, that would have been real exciting. :lol :lol  Plus, like Barto said, he was basically the main antagonist of the series, and while Walt was the antihero, he was still the protagonist, and thus the show still needed a main antagonist.
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Post by: Zook on March 28, 2014, 05:23:30 AM
I mean, take Gus out of the entire storyline and then it's just, what, Hank and Jesse cooking in the RV in the desert forever?

Damn, removing Gus really fucks up the space-time continuum.
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Post by: MetalJunkie on March 28, 2014, 06:28:28 AM
Agreed and there are varied opinions nonetheless.  Fair enough and I appreciate your willingness to discuss instead of just dismissing it with a *whoosh*.   :lol
I still have about 15 episodes to go, so who's the bigger monster still remains to be seen at least from my perspective.
Erm... "Whoosh" is a sound effect describing something flying over someone's head. In this case, it was Chino's comment "Was his character not to your satisfaction?" He was referencing Gus's common question in Los Pollos Hermanos: "Is everything to your satisfaction?"
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Post by: puppyonacid on March 28, 2014, 06:50:34 AM
Agreed and there are varied opinions nonetheless.  Fair enough and I appreciate your willingness to discuss instead of just dismissing it with a *whoosh*.   :lol
 

and then it's just, what, Hank and Jesse Tuco cooking in the RV in the desert forever? 

Fix'd
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Post by: El Barto on March 28, 2014, 08:12:44 AM
Erm... "Whoosh" is a sound effect describing something flying over someone's head. In this case, it was Chino's comment "Was his character not to your satisfaction?" He was referencing Gus's common question in Los Pollos Hermanos: "Is everything to your satisfaction?"
To be fair, I didn't get either of those, either.
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Post by: Dublagent66 on March 28, 2014, 08:54:26 AM
Agreed and there are varied opinions nonetheless.  Fair enough and I appreciate your willingness to discuss instead of just dismissing it with a *whoosh*.   :lol
 

Well, you saying they got back on the right track by getting rid of Gus implies that focusing on him so much was the wrong, when, in reality, he was, more or less, a plot device to tell the Walter White story, so in that respect, I can see why someone thought that fact kind of went over your head.  I mean, take Gus out of the entire storyline and then it's just, what, Hank and Jesse cooking in the RV in the desert forever?  Yep, that would have been real exciting. :lol :lol  Plus, like Barto said, he was basically the main antagonist of the series, and while Walt was the antihero, he was still the protagonist, and thus the show still needed a main antagonist.

Yes, I realize that Gus was an integral character in the plot.  I never implied that it was wrong.  I said I was glad that the focus shifted back to Walt.  He's the one that initially had the power because of his ability to cook.  Gus had cameras everywhere playing big bro and Walt hated it.  I used to like Gus in the beginning but he became a real pain in the ass.  I liked it when Walt said a few episodes earlier that he wasn't in danger, he is the danger.  He proved it by taking Gus out.  That's what I was implying.


Agreed and there are varied opinions nonetheless.  Fair enough and I appreciate your willingness to discuss instead of just dismissing it with a *whoosh*.   :lol
I still have about 15 episodes to go, so who's the bigger monster still remains to be seen at least from my perspective.
Erm... "Whoosh" is a sound effect describing something flying over someone's head. In this case, it was Chino's comment "Was his character not to your satisfaction?" He was referencing Gus's common question in Los Pollos Hermanos: "Is everything to your satisfaction?"

Well, yeah now I remember Gus saying that.  One might have pointed that out in the first place.  Works a lot better than Whoosh.  ;)
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Post by: Chino on March 28, 2014, 08:57:43 AM
Was his character not to your satisfaction?

Well, I thought I made that pretty clear in my post.  The character had major flaws and I'm glad they killed him off.  He let things get out of control and then killed and threatened others to make up for it.  He thought he was untouchable and he thought wrong.  It's always a pleasure to see karma come back around and kick some ass.  In this case, it happened to be Walt, who is the central character of the series.  The show began to revolve too much around Gus.  I'm glad they got back on the right track.
Whoosh.

My sentiment exactly. :lol :lol

I was just making a play on the first line we heard out of his mouth "Is your meal not to your satisfaction?" or something like that. Carry on.
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Post by: El Barto on March 28, 2014, 10:26:02 AM
Was his character not to your satisfaction?

Well, I thought I made that pretty clear in my post.  The character had major flaws and I'm glad they killed him off.  He let things get out of control and then killed and threatened others to make up for it.  He thought he was untouchable and he thought wrong.  It's always a pleasure to see karma come back around and kick some ass.  In this case, it happened to be Walt, who is the central character of the series.  The show began to revolve too much around Gus.  I'm glad they got back on the right track.
Whoosh.

My sentiment exactly. :lol :lol

I was just making a play on the first line we heard out of his mouth "Is your meal not to your satisfaction?" or something like that. Carry on.
The funny part is that I watched that scene a couple of days ago when this topic first came up, and it whooshed right the hell over my head too.  :lol


Yes, I realize that Gus was an integral character in the plot.  I never implied that it was wrong.  I said I was glad that the focus shifted back to Walt.  He's the one that initially had the power because of his ability to cook.  Gus had cameras everywhere playing big bro and Walt hated it.  I used to like Gus in the beginning but he became a real pain in the ass.  I liked it when Walt said a few episodes earlier that he wasn't in danger, he is the danger.  He proved it by taking Gus out.  That's what I was implying.
Well, I have to agree with Kev on this one. Without the Gus story line there's just not as much to do. What I believe that you will find is that for the next 8 episodes everything is pretty slow since Walt is essentially the protagonist and antagonist. It really works best when there's somebody against him rather than just his own personality issues. Once that opposition returns in part 2 of season 5 the thing takes off like a freaking roller coaster again.
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Post by: MetalJunkie on March 28, 2014, 12:32:17 PM
Erm... "Whoosh" is a sound effect describing something flying over someone's head. In this case, it was Chino's comment "Was his character not to your satisfaction?" He was referencing Gus's common question in Los Pollos Hermanos: "Is everything to your satisfaction?"
To be fair, I didn't get either of those, either.
I guess it's not as common a term as I thought. Something I picked up on reddit.
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Post by: Nick on March 30, 2014, 03:38:36 PM
Well, I just finished the last episode... man, what a fantastic series. I really can't say enough nice things about it.
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Post by: El Barto on March 30, 2014, 04:24:04 PM
Well, I just finished the last episode... man, what a fantastic series. I really can't say enough nice things about it.
That last 8 episode stretch is a roller coaster, ain't it? I sat down to watch the first one and blew through 4 before I made myself go to bed.
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Post by: KevShmev on March 30, 2014, 10:04:30 PM
Well, I just finished the last episode... man, what a fantastic series. I really can't say enough nice things about it.
That last 8 episode stretch is a roller coaster, ain't it? I sat down to watch the first one and blew through 4 before I made myself go to bed.

That kind of "I can't stop watching!" mentality is what I had for seasons 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5a (5b wasn't till weeks later). :lol :lol
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Post by: Nick on March 31, 2014, 08:07:21 AM
Yeah, the show kept me up late on more than 1 occasion for sure.

For all the people that died, I oddly hoped Mike would be a survivor.
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Post by: KevShmev on March 31, 2014, 08:13:11 AM
Mike had to go, for the story to play out like it did.  Mike was a great character, but if there ever was a cold-blooded killer on the show, he was the one.  He was basically a murderer for hire (see: him preparing to go ahead with killing Walt at the end of Season 3 because he was ordered to do it). 

On that note, I still find Mike's death scene a bit underwhelming.  Walt's surprised reaction when Mike floors it after being shot is bizarre.  Why does Walt look so surprised?  It just seemed like an odd reaction to have to that. 
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Post by: El Barto on March 31, 2014, 08:17:06 AM
Mike had to go, for the story to play out like it did.  Mike was a great character, but if there ever was a cold-blooded killer on the show, he was the one.  He was basically a murderer for hire (see: him preparing to go ahead with killing Walt at the end of Season 3 because he was ordered to do it). 
I never really got the impression that Mike was cavalier about killing people. Remember that he really, truly hated Walt. The cold blooded killer and the one that spooked me was the young dude who popped the little kid and Jessy's girlfriend. I have to respect the guy for being business first and all, but man he was a little too chill about it for my tastes.
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Post by: KevShmev on March 31, 2014, 08:20:13 AM
That is true...Todd was a true psychopath.

I don't think Mike came to truly hate Walt until Season 4, though.  His hatred for Walt first seemed to come about when Walt approached him about getting him into a room with Gus (where Walt said, "I'll take care of the rest.").  It was then Mike realized what a loose cannon Walt was (although he had a glimpse of it in 3 when Walt went nuts trying to get to Ted after Skyler told him about the affair).
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Post by: Nick on March 31, 2014, 10:45:45 AM
I liked Mike because he was a true professional. He was one of the only characters were emotions never really affected his business. He was great at what he did and performed his tasks as instructed perfectly. For whatever reason that just gave him a bit of mystique to me.
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Post by: Chino on March 31, 2014, 12:36:58 PM
I liked Mike because he was a true professional. He was one of the only characters were emotions never really affected his business. He was great at what he did and performed his tasks as instructed perfectly. For whatever reason that just gave him a bit of mystique to me.

You could argue that his love for his grand daughter is why he was exactly the way you described him to be. If he didn't have her, me may have been a monster.
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Post by: El Barto on March 31, 2014, 02:32:35 PM
I liked Mike because he was a true professional. He was one of the only characters were emotions never really affected his business. He was great at what he did and performed his tasks as instructed perfectly. For whatever reason that just gave him a bit of mystique to me.

You could argue that his love for his grand daughter is why he was exactly the way you described him to be. If he didn't have her, me may have been a monster.
I kinda figure that without the granddaughter Mike is less of a monster. He never really seemed happy or like he enjoyed his work. If he hadn't been trying to make her a gazillionaire I doubt he would have been such a henchman. Still, he was certainly a professional.

I suspect Todd was the most professional of them all. That guy did whatever needed to be done and didn't think twice about it. I wouldn't call him a sociopath since he never really acted for his own personal gain, but he certainly had a level of detachment that was pretty damned horrifying. 
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Post by: j on March 31, 2014, 03:47:11 PM
On that note, I still find Mike's death scene a bit underwhelming.  Walt's surprised reaction when Mike floors it after being shot is bizarre.  Why does Walt look so surprised?  It just seemed like an odd reaction to have to that.

That's one scene I remember thinking was really weird when I saw it.  Granted, I've only seen it once and my memory of the details is hazy, but I recall being dissatisfied with the whole thing: from Walt's uncharacteristic behavior, to the strange timing of Mike's death, to Walt's strange reaction to his own outburst.  Not to mention it amounted to an unceremonious and anticlimactic end for Mike, but that might have been part of the point.  However, the other gripes stand, although I should probably watch it again and I'm curious to hear others' interpretations.

-J
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Post by: El Barto on March 31, 2014, 03:57:03 PM
I found the shooting highly odd and anticlimactic, however I found Mike's death to be quite nicely done. Spending your final moments sitting next to a river isn't a bad way to go, and Walt making an ass of himself and annoying him was pretty typical. I felt bad for Mike in several regards there. Both the annoyance and the fact that Walt would have certainly been the very last person he'd have wanted to send him on his way.
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Post by: MetalJunkie on March 31, 2014, 04:28:04 PM
I found the shooting highly odd and anticlimactic, however I found Mike's death to be quite nicely done. Spending your final moments sitting next to a river isn't a bad way to go, and Walt making an ass of himself and annoying him was pretty typical. I felt bad for Mike in several regards there. Both the annoyance and the fact that Walt would have certainly been the very last person he'd have wanted to send him on his way.
I loved his last words, though.
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Post by: tapsmiled on April 03, 2014, 08:42:13 AM
I just finished watching the series yesterday, and Aaron Paul's performance, for me, is up there with the best of them.

I really felt that the entire series was damn-near flawless.
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Post by: Grizz on April 03, 2014, 10:50:44 AM
Cross-post with Funny DT Pics:
(http://i.imgur.com/pKke3DP.png)
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Post by: wasteland on April 06, 2014, 04:56:10 AM
Well, people, I'm in. Took me less than a month from Pilot all the way down to Felina. Wow.
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Post by: Chino on May 30, 2014, 04:26:38 AM
3:45  :corn

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/30/walter-white-not-dead_n_5415300.html
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Post by: KevShmev on May 30, 2014, 08:34:03 AM
Vince Gilligan, the show's creator, said he's dead.  :corn
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Post by: Dublagent66 on May 30, 2014, 11:40:10 AM
I finished watching a week ago.  Disappointing final season only because I didn't want things to unravel the way they did.  But, what can you expect?  That type of lifestyle can't last and it will catch up with you eventually.  However, I wouldn't be surprised to see a follow up series emerge sometime in the future.  I don't think we've seen the last of WW.  But, then again, who knows?  Overall, I thought it was a great show.
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Post by: Chino on May 30, 2014, 12:18:14 PM
I finished watching a week ago.  Disappointing final season only because I didn't want things to unravel the way they did.  But, what can you expect?  That type of lifestyle can't last and it will catch up with you eventually.  However, I wouldn't be surprised to see a follow up series emerge sometime in the future.  I don't think we've seen the last of WW.  But, then again, who knows?  Overall, I thought it was a great show.

Better Call Saul is in production right now.
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Post by: TioJorge on May 30, 2014, 01:13:43 PM
Granted, that's a prequel, not a follow up (if that's what he meant). I think the chances of any kind of sequel or 'future' installments are very, very slim; and quite honestly I'd be both disappointed and surprised to see it happen. It'd unravel everything the end arc set up and Walter's comeuppance that was so perfect for the show. Cranston has, many times throughout the filming of the show, stated his own opinions as to what Walt's fate was; it was pretty clear that Gilligan didn't divulge much even to the actor's while filming. My point is that this new uproar (media-wise) over Cranston 'wanting' to return to the character really has no impact on whether it actually is a viable option or not. Unless Gilligan goes against both his word and final vision for the show, Walt is dead and the only spin-off's we'll be getting will be a prequel to the show and/or will show other points of view of other characters during the events of the show. On that note, I really think we will see more of Walter White, but before the events of the show.

But I cannot wait for BCS! I love the character and he's got the perfect balance of idiocy, wit, cunning and revolt that a bus-bench lawyer should have. He's also surprisingly clever when he needs to be, so I'm expecting some serious scenes as well. I truly hope they delve into some of the earlier stuff we saw of him in the show, before and while Walt and Jesse were vetting him (next to the grave). I love the scene when he mentions 'Ignasio' and his boys coming to get Saul to kill him. It sounded really serious and that Saul may have already, as others has said in the past, have a fake name and a 'new identity' from a major fuck up. Of course it'll be great to see new scenes and his 'rival lawyer'.  :lol
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Post by: Chino on May 30, 2014, 01:16:36 PM
I've read that it's going to be both a prequel and sequel.
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Post by: TioJorge on May 30, 2014, 01:21:48 PM
I should've been more clear, I mean in regards to Water surviving. Yeah we'll see Saul and how he survives. I'm actually hoping that they bring up this new lawyer (McKean) in the post-BB material, it'd be awesome to have it a running thing as opposed to a 'what was Saul doing before he met Walt' shtick. I am really excited to see Mike again too; that was the only character's death where I genuinely hated Walt. At least a direct death.
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Post by: El Barto on May 30, 2014, 03:58:27 PM
RJ MITT

In

Breaking Bad II--The Revenge


But I cannot wait for BCS! I love the character and he's got the perfect balance of idiocy, wit, cunning and revolt that a bus-bench lawyer should have. He's also surprisingly clever when he needs to be, so I'm expecting some serious scenes as well. I truly hope they delve into some of the earlier stuff we saw of him in the show, before and while Walt and Jesse were vetting him (next to the grave). I love the scene when he mentions 'Ignasio' and his boys coming to get Saul to kill him. It sounded really serious and that Saul may have already, as others has said in the past, have a fake name and a 'new identity' from a major fuck up. Of course it'll be great to see new scenes and his 'rival lawyer'.  :lol
The graveside vetting was one of my very favorite scenes with Saul. When he asks "why don't you just kill Badger?" in such an earnest and curious tone it cracked me up, particularly since Walt and Jesse recognized the logic of his question.
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Post by: MetalJunkie on May 30, 2014, 04:41:16 PM
I've read that it's going to be both a prequel and sequel.
Yeah, if I recall correctly, they plan to bounce around a bit chronologically.
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Post by: TioJorge on May 30, 2014, 09:27:32 PM
RJ MITT

In

Breaking Bad II--The Revenge


But I cannot wait for BCS! I love the character and he's got the perfect balance of idiocy, wit, cunning and revolt that a bus-bench lawyer should have. He's also surprisingly clever when he needs to be, so I'm expecting some serious scenes as well. I truly hope they delve into some of the earlier stuff we saw of him in the show, before and while Walt and Jesse were vetting him (next to the grave). I love the scene when he mentions 'Ignasio' and his boys coming to get Saul to kill him. It sounded really serious and that Saul may have already, as others has said in the past, have a fake name and a 'new identity' from a major fuck up. Of course it'll be great to see new scenes and his 'rival lawyer'.  :lol
The graveside vetting was one of my very favorite scenes with Saul. When he asks "why don't you just kill Badger?" in such an earnest and curious tone it cracked me up, particularly since Walt and Jesse recognized the logic of his question.

 :lol Definitely a shining scene from the early days; I love it all around for both the humor, the set up of history for Saul, and the fact that Walter and Jesse were so pure compared to their current selves that they were downright ignorant about most of the shady stuff.

I've read that it's going to be both a prequel and sequel.
Yeah, if I recall correctly, they plan to bounce around a bit chronologically.

Now that would be interesting, I never considered that. I always assumed it'd be a 'first half - the past' and then they'd give us a little re-cap of the BB happenings, then 'second half - post BB'. That'd be cool if they did the usual Tarentino (albeit much less jarring) shtick of fusing flashbacks with current time.

Either way they roll with it, this has the potential to be very interesting and at the same time very funny. I have high hopes for it.
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Post by: KevShmev on August 19, 2014, 01:03:51 PM
Get ready to laugh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovqM72em1dA&sns=tw

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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on August 19, 2014, 02:02:45 PM
"Ah bitch"! Knew it was squeezed in somewhere.  :lol
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Post by: MetalJunkie on August 19, 2014, 03:41:04 PM
Get ready to laugh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovqM72em1dA&sns=tw
Los Pollos Hermanos postcard at 4:03, on the wall next to the guitar strings.
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Post by: Chino on August 25, 2014, 11:02:45 AM
30 second teaser for Better Call Saul

https://www.youtube.com/embed/YpV-fRh5hcQ?enablejsapi=1
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Post by: Dublagent66 on August 25, 2014, 11:12:52 AM
Get ready to laugh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovqM72em1dA&sns=tw

 :lol  Love it!
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Post by: Grizz on August 25, 2014, 01:34:46 PM
In BCS I expect more details regarding the public masturbation case he mixed up with Badger's.
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Post by: chaossystem on August 25, 2014, 02:32:02 PM
Yeah, the show kept me up late on more than 1 occasion for sure.

For all the people that died, I oddly hoped Mike would be a survivor.

I'm not really sorry that he died, but I didn't like the way it happened.
He shouldn't have died until closer to the end of the series.
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Post by: El Barto on August 25, 2014, 03:39:37 PM
I certainly would have liked to see Mike just up and disappear, which he would easily have been able to do, but his granddaughter pretty much ruled that out. In fact, I'm not sure the whole thing with her was such a good idea. Like others, it was always his professionalism that I liked about him. Adding personal motivation took away from that a bit, I think.

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Post by: MetalJunkie on August 25, 2014, 05:20:48 PM
I certainly would have liked to see Mike just up and disappear, which he would easily have been able to do, but his granddaughter pretty much ruled that out. In fact, I'm not sure the whole thing with her was such a good idea. Like others, it was always his professionalism that I liked about him. Adding personal motivation took away from that a bit, I think.
Every character on the show has a flaw. Guess Mike needed one, too.
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Post by: Chino on August 25, 2014, 06:04:55 PM
I certainly would have liked to see Mike just up and disappear, which he would easily have been able to do, but his granddaughter pretty much ruled that out. In fact, I'm not sure the whole thing with her was such a good idea. Like others, it was always his professionalism that I liked about him. Adding personal motivation took away from that a bit, I think.
Every character on the show has a flaw. Guess Mike needed one, too.

Serious question... Not counting his physical deformity, what was JR's flaw?
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Post by: El Barto on August 25, 2014, 06:51:36 PM
I certainly would have liked to see Mike just up and disappear, which he would easily have been able to do, but his granddaughter pretty much ruled that out. In fact, I'm not sure the whole thing with her was such a good idea. Like others, it was always his professionalism that I liked about him. Adding personal motivation took away from that a bit, I think.
Every character on the show has a flaw. Guess Mike needed one, too.

Serious question... Not counting his physical deformity, what was JR's flaw?
He was a monumental asshole. Shame they couldn't have found a way to kill his sorry ass in the end, as well.
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Post by: TioJorge on August 25, 2014, 06:57:16 PM
 :rollin
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Post by: MetalJunkie on August 25, 2014, 07:25:57 PM
I certainly would have liked to see Mike just up and disappear, which he would easily have been able to do, but his granddaughter pretty much ruled that out. In fact, I'm not sure the whole thing with her was such a good idea. Like others, it was always his professionalism that I liked about him. Adding personal motivation took away from that a bit, I think.
Every character on the show has a flaw. Guess Mike needed one, too.

Serious question... Not counting his physical deformity, what was JR's flaw?
He was a monumental asshole. Shame they couldn't have found a way to kill his sorry ass in the end, as well.
I agree wholeheartedly. When Skylar threatened to stab Walt and Jr. ended up with the knife, I was hoping he was going to fall on it.
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Post by: Dimitrius on August 25, 2014, 07:45:18 PM
Why do guys hate breakfast?!
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Post by: MetalJunkie on August 25, 2014, 07:48:36 PM
Why do guys hate breakfast?!
I fucking love breakfast, but I hate when it's ruined by whiny bitches that don't listen.
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Post by: Chino on August 26, 2014, 03:03:06 AM
Why do guys hate breakfast?!
I fucking love breakfast, but I hate when it's ruined by whiny bitches that don't listen.

And fake bacon.


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Post by: Big Hath on August 26, 2014, 08:12:30 AM
And fake bacon.

facon
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Post by: KevShmev on August 26, 2014, 08:40:05 AM
Total domination at the Emmys last night.

Best Drama
Best Lead Actor
Best Writing in a Drama (for Ozymandias)
Best Supporting Actress
Best Supporting Actor

 :metal
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Post by: Chino on August 26, 2014, 08:50:31 AM
This may be a stupid question... But Breaking Bad ended last year. Why is it still up for awards?
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Post by: KevShmev on August 26, 2014, 08:57:24 AM
I think the Emmys still base off the traditional fall through spring schedule, even though cable shows don't work off of the traditional scheduling of NBC, ABC and CBS.

Season 5b of Breaking Bad aired in August and September. 

Last year's Emmys were in September, so how could the last season be eligible last year when it wasn't even finished yet? 

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Post by: TioJorge on August 26, 2014, 10:44:29 AM
Listen guys, Walter does whatever he wants. He'll win next year too. Don't fuck with him.
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Post by: Genowyn on August 26, 2014, 10:45:43 AM
:lol
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Post by: Dublagent66 on August 26, 2014, 04:10:09 PM
I certainly would have liked to see Mike just up and disappear, which he would easily have been able to do, but his granddaughter pretty much ruled that out. In fact, I'm not sure the whole thing with her was such a good idea. Like others, it was always his professionalism that I liked about him. Adding personal motivation took away from that a bit, I think.
Every character on the show has a flaw. Guess Mike needed one, too.

Serious question... Not counting his physical deformity, what was JR's flaw?
He was a monumental asshole. Shame they couldn't have found a way to kill his sorry ass in the end, as well.
I agree wholeheartedly. When Skylar threatened to stab Walt and Jr. ended up with the knife, I was hoping he was going to fall on it.

Yeah, I have to admit that JR's character was pretty weak.  Especially at the end.  I got so sick of that kid.
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Post by: El Barto on August 26, 2014, 05:11:05 PM
I certainly would have liked to see Mike just up and disappear, which he would easily have been able to do, but his granddaughter pretty much ruled that out. In fact, I'm not sure the whole thing with her was such a good idea. Like others, it was always his professionalism that I liked about him. Adding personal motivation took away from that a bit, I think.
Every character on the show has a flaw. Guess Mike needed one, too.

Serious question... Not counting his physical deformity, what was JR's flaw?
He was a monumental asshole. Shame they couldn't have found a way to kill his sorry ass in the end, as well.
I agree wholeheartedly. When Skylar threatened to stab Walt and Jr. ended up with the knife, I was hoping he was going to fall on it.

Yeah, I have to admit that JR's character was pretty weak.  Especially at the end.  I got so sick of that kid.
It's funny. I remember a year ago catching a whole lot of shit for calling Walt Jr. reprehensible. With the advantage or retrospection everybody seems to have joined me now.  :lol
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Post by: Zook on August 26, 2014, 05:41:32 PM
Eh, he seemed like a normal kid reacting the way a kid would if he found out his beloved father was a drug kingpin.
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Post by: GentlemanofDread on August 26, 2014, 05:53:33 PM
I think Walt Jr's flaw was his love for his dad. It blinded him.
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Post by: Grizz on August 26, 2014, 09:57:49 PM
It blinded all of us.
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Post by: KevShmev on August 26, 2014, 10:00:09 PM
Eh, he seemed like a normal kid reacting the way a kid would if he found out his beloved father was a drug kingpin.

Exactly.
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Post by: Chino on August 27, 2014, 07:02:21 AM
Eh, he seemed like a normal kid reacting the way a kid would if he found out his beloved father was a drug kingpin.

But his dad bought him a Challenger. That should have cancelled it out.
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Post by: MetalJunkie on August 27, 2014, 10:26:16 AM
Eh, he seemed like a normal kid reacting the way a kid would if he found out his beloved father was a drug kingpin.

But his dad bought him a Challenger. That should have cancelled it out.
Good point.

By the way, has anyone here actually checked out www.savewalterwhite.com? Pretty cool. There's also a www.bettercallsaul.com

I was reading through savewalterwhite and it reminds me how damn good the writers are. It reads exactly like a teenager with cerebral palsy. Crazy how they're able to slip their mindset into one totally different from theirs. Or maybe they let Mitte write it, I don't know.
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Post by: Chino on August 28, 2014, 12:12:04 PM
Coincidence?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/25/blue-lobster-caught_n_5710735.html?utm_hp_ref=science&ir=Science

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SCARBOROUGH, Maine (AP) — A Maine lobsterman says he and his 14-year-old daughter caught a one-in-two-million crustacean: a blue lobster.

WCSH-TV (http://on.wcsh6.com/1loUcOM ) reports Jay LaPlante of the Miss Meghan Lobster Catch company caught the curious creature in Scarborough around 10:45 a.m. Saturday. LaPlante and daughter Meghan were hauling traps when she discovered the bright blue critter.

The story has a happy ending for the lobster. Meghan says she is naming it Skyler and donating it to the Maine State Aquarium, far from any dinner rolls or pats of butter. The aquarium says it has three other blue lobsters and an orange one.

LaPlante says it's the first time he has caught a blue lobster.
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Post by: TioJorge on August 28, 2014, 12:22:46 PM
HE CAUGHT A SHINY!
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Post by: kirksnosehair on August 28, 2014, 12:36:42 PM
Just stopped by this thread to report that Mrs. NoseHair and I just completed our Netflix journey through this entire series.  We watched the whole thing from season 1 episode 1 through the final episode.


Excellent series and the end was very satisfying, which I found...refreshing   :tup
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Post by: KevShmev on August 28, 2014, 02:00:42 PM
I have called it the most satisfying ending to anything I've ever watched, TV or film, and I stand by that statement. 

I am still in awe of how amazing Cranston's acting was in this. :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
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Post by: MetalJunkie on August 29, 2014, 01:37:06 AM
I have called it the most satisfying ending to anything I've ever watched, TV or film, and I stand by that statement. 

I am still in awe of how amazing Cranston's acting was in this. :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
I still think Shawshank has the most satisfying ending I've ever seen.
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Post by: TheSilentHam on September 16, 2014, 02:53:08 PM
I swear I saw a toy in his house

You did around.  Season 3 - Ep. 11 Abiquiu around 40:35.  When Walter is invited to Gus' house for dinner, as he is coming in the house -  There is a kids activity table in what appears to be a formal dining room.  Beside a potted plant or small tree, there is a toy SUV...looks to be like a Barbie SUV.
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Post by: Fluffy Lothario on September 23, 2014, 12:00:24 PM
Why hello there, I'm Mr Terribly Good at Avoiding Spoilers, so I just watched this entire show with pretty much no knowledge of the plot whatsoever. Just knew the basic summary presented in Season 1.

Anyone who bitches about the ending: Ozymandias is the ending. The rest is just tidying things up.

I feel like the significance of Crawl Space to Walt's character ultimately is understated by all the talk I've encountered about the show. Not to say his character wasn't being beautifully gradually inched into darker territory throughout the entire show, but there is a big difference in him either side of the crawl space scene. He spends basically the entire fourth season scared shitless. Down under his house, he goes insane with terror, 'dies' (an impression the cinematography was clearly aimed at) and then is reborn at the start of the next episode. From then on, he barely shows fear for a single moment in the entire rest of the show. True, the circumstances of much of the fifth season don't warrant it, but I feel like it must have been deliberate.

The only thing I would really complain about with this show is the title. I know what it means, but it's obscure and meaningless until you look it up, and even then, it's such an awkward expression. Terrible title.
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Post by: sneakyblueberry on September 24, 2014, 05:10:23 AM
The only thing I would really complain about with this show is the title. I know what it means, but it's obscure and meaningless until you look it up, and even then, it's such an awkward expression. Terrible title.

You did catch Jesse mentioning it in the pilot, right?  Although I do agree its awkward.
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Post by: Chino on September 24, 2014, 05:34:50 AM
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Post by: KevShmev on September 29, 2014, 01:18:50 PM
A year ago today...

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Post by: sneakyblueberry on September 29, 2014, 04:18:43 PM
Wow is the show only that old?  It feels like years ago.
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Post by: lonestar on December 18, 2014, 12:45:20 PM
Finally started watching. Been avoiding it because I knew my spare time would go down the tube as I binge watched five seasons, and I think that will be the case.


The scene with Walter trying to roll a doobie in the second episode is too fucking hysterical.
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Post by: Chino on December 18, 2014, 12:48:10 PM
 :lol

I love that scene.
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Post by: Chino on April 06, 2015, 06:44:49 AM
I rewatched the last three seasons over the last few weeks. I never get tired of this show. This time around, I thought of something at the very end that I hadn't thought of before.

Walter presumably dies on the floor of the meth lab at Tod and Crew's place. Prior to that scene, Walt was in the car with Skinny P and Badger. They talked to Walt about the blue stuff still being on the market and were shocked to find out that it wasn't Walt cooking it. Now, had this all ended with Walt, Tod, and Crew dying somewhere besides the hideout, Jessie could have probably been easily linked to being the cook at that site. Did Walt end up giving Jessie (unintentionally) one final break? The feds found Walt and probably just assumed he's been cooking all this time. They have no reason to persue Jessie.
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Post by: BlackInk on April 06, 2015, 08:24:35 AM
I rewatched the last three seasons over the last few weeks. I never get tired of this show. This time around, I thought of something at the very end that I hadn't thought of before.

Walter presumably dies on the floor of the meth lab at Tod and Crew's place. Prior to that scene, Walt was in the car with Skinny P and Badger. They talked to Walt about the blue stuff still being on the market and were shocked to find out that it wasn't Walt cooking it. Now, had this all ended with Walt, Tod, and Crew dying somewhere besides the hideout, Jessie could have probably been easily linked to being the cook at that site. Did Walt end up giving Jessie (unintentionally) one final break? The feds found Walt and probably just assumed he's been cooking all this time. They have no reason to persue Jessie.

Yeah, that makes sense.
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Post by: faizoff on May 28, 2015, 11:17:24 AM
I rewatched the last three seasons over the last few weeks. I never get tired of this show. This time around, I thought of something at the very end that I hadn't thought of before.

Walter presumably dies on the floor of the meth lab at Tod and Crew's place. Prior to that scene, Walt was in the car with Skinny P and Badger. They talked to Walt about the blue stuff still being on the market and were shocked to find out that it wasn't Walt cooking it. Now, had this all ended with Walt, Tod, and Crew dying somewhere besides the hideout, Jessie could have probably been easily linked to being the cook at that site. Did Walt end up giving Jessie (unintentionally) one final break? The feds found Walt and probably just assumed he's been cooking all this time. They have no reason to persue Jessie.

It could be possible that what plays out. But I think with him being spotted/suspected of being up in New Hampshire, not sure how they'd tie it to Walt having done all that cooking. I mean your theory isn't far fetched, definitely a good line of thinking.

I recently got the complete series boxset and went straight to the commentaries, so far finished the first two seasons and they've been hilarious. Such a joy to listen to not a single dull moment.
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Post by: KevShmev on May 28, 2015, 04:46:49 PM
I rewatched the last three seasons over the last few weeks. I never get tired of this show. This time around, I thought of something at the very end that I hadn't thought of before.

Walter presumably dies on the floor of the meth lab at Tod and Crew's place. Prior to that scene, Walt was in the car with Skinny P and Badger. They talked to Walt about the blue stuff still being on the market and were shocked to find out that it wasn't Walt cooking it. Now, had this all ended with Walt, Tod, and Crew dying somewhere besides the hideout, Jessie could have probably been easily linked to being the cook at that site. Did Walt end up giving Jessie (unintentionally) one final break? The feds found Walt and probably just assumed he's been cooking all this time. They have no reason to persue Jessie.

Possibly, but Jesse's fingerprints will be all over the lab.  Then again, for all of the times Jesse talked to the cops, I don't think he was ever actually arrested, so they may not have his prints on file, thus they wouldn't be able to link the prints to him. 

However, like fiazoff said, they know Walt was in New Hampshire several days earlier, so I do not buy them assuming Walt was there the whole time.
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Post by: Chino on June 11, 2015, 07:47:01 AM
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(http://lafiscalia.com/wp-content/uploads/metastasis.jpg)
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The Spanish version of Breaking Bad (Metastasis) Season 1 is on Netflix. I started watching it thinking it was a parody, and it was a 110% legit reproduction of the show. It's actually quite awesome and I intend to watch the whole thing (with subtitles).
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Post by: Bolsters on June 11, 2015, 08:27:48 AM
I've been waiting years for this to pop up somewhere I could watch it. Too bad I don't have Netflix yet and it probably isn't on the AU version anyway. ::)
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Post by: ariich on June 11, 2015, 09:14:27 AM
Wtf. What is the point of that?
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Post by: Chino on June 11, 2015, 09:17:12 AM
Wtf. What is the point of that?

I don't think it's any different than a show like The Office or Wilfred coming to the states. I think it's really cool actually.
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Post by: ariich on June 11, 2015, 09:47:47 AM
I don't know Wilfred, but The Office turned out quite different didn't it? In general, most of these remakes are pointless unless the show-makers want to do something different with it.

This looks like a shot-for-shot remake.
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Post by: Chino on June 11, 2015, 09:52:34 AM
I don't know Wilfred, but The Office turned out quite different didn't it? In general, most of these remakes are pointless unless the show-makers want to do something different with it.

This looks like a shot-for-shot remake.

It is and it isn't. I like the fact that it's the same story in a new setting. It's possible that they will deviate from the US script down the road, but for the time being, they shows are very similar. I think it's cool. Maybe it isn't for everyone, but I think most BB fans will get a kick out of it.

The US Office went 8 seasons longer than the UK version  :lol
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Post by: KevShmev on June 11, 2015, 06:30:07 PM
Wtf. What is the point of that?

This.
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Post by: orcus116 on June 11, 2015, 09:15:24 PM
I dunno, Chino, I don't have any faith that this will deviate from the storyline like The Office did in the US. I'm pretty sure, like ariich said, it's going to end up as a nearly shot for shot aping of the original. I mean it doesn't even look like they're trying to change up the characters appearance or anything.

I'm curious to see how it is being received and if people actually think it's an original series instead of a recreation.
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Post by: Xanthul on June 12, 2015, 04:59:33 AM
Can't say I'm excited to watch that... I guess it's Mexican Spanish, so that will make it quite difficult and unappealing for me since there are many different words and expressions and the accent usually bugs me. I guess Americans watching shows with strong British accents could feel similarly.
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on June 12, 2015, 05:20:56 AM
I would laugh my ass off if my country decided to do a reproduction of Breaking Bad or any american big budget TV-show for that matter. It wouldn't in a million year happen anyway though. I even get annoyed with subtitles these days which still is 100% better than voice dubs that some countries still do. Whenever i'm in Germany or Italy for example I can't watch 99% of the channels because the stupid voice dubs in every sitcom, movie or tv-show.
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Post by: Chino on June 12, 2015, 06:01:33 AM
I think you should all watch at least the first episode.
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Post by: Rattlehead on June 12, 2015, 08:23:38 PM
Wtf. What is the point of that?

This.

My thoughts exactly… but I'm still interested in watching an episode just to see what it's like  :lol
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Post by: BlackInk on June 13, 2015, 12:15:06 AM
I'm not. I've seen Breaking Bad, no need to drag myself through it all over again in a different language.
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Post by: Bolsters on June 13, 2015, 12:21:52 AM
I just want to see for myself how bad it is and how blatantly it duplicates Breaking Bad.
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Post by: emblempride on June 16, 2015, 03:38:52 AM
Seen the name come on the local Spanish channel, but had no idea that it was, uh, this. Apparently Gilligan has consulted on it and they've tweaked a lot - of course only to better match up the story with Colombian culture. So, like different gangs and no RV, exaggerated acting, the article I read makes an interesting point about there always having to be music playing even when Walter's getting diagnosed (when in BB, of course, everything turns into a high-pitched monotone). I'm not Colombian, but if Brazilian television is anything to go by, yeah, Latinos can't, even for a moment, hold back on the soundtrack.

From the little I've seen and read, it's definitely going for shot-for-shot with a smaller budget making necessary changes because of that and because it only had 40-ish episodes and wanted to finish the storyline. Doesn't seem like it deviates much, or that it ever intended to.  No idea why they just couldn't do subtitles for BB, though it's probably best it wasn't dubbed. It's shit, I reckon, with actors and crew just stuck in a raw deal having to do something that's already been done way better.

However, seeing Colombian Walt say to himself, instead of "Jesse Pinkman" but in a similarly shocked tone to Walt Walt, "Jose Miguel Rosas", was insane and hilarious. Also, Colombian Saul doesn't have commercials, he has his own late night talk show dedicated to legal advice.
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Post by: Chino on June 16, 2015, 06:50:02 AM
I'm telling you.... I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
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Post by: faizoff on August 04, 2015, 10:54:04 AM
Little bump.

I don't know if this has been shared here but my coworker showed it to me and I thought it was an amazing fan tribute montage to the characters, I've only seen Walter White's version and none of the others yet. Excellent stuff.

The Evolution of Walter White - Fan tribute  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h-iAZBtNrs)
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Post by: faizoff on October 26, 2015, 11:59:33 AM
I finally watched all the episodes with the commentary, these commentaries were such a delight to listen to. I like that season 4 & 5 had one for every episode. I really miss this show and everytime I watch it I always get a feeling of great contentment and sense of satisfaction. If you don't have the boxset I highly recommend it just for the commentaries. Now I need to watch all the extra documentaries and stuff.
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Post by: KevShmev on March 22, 2016, 07:59:33 PM
He's alive!!

(http://i.imgur.com/ytMdyuN.gif)

 :lol :lol :lol
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Post by: DragonAttack on March 23, 2016, 04:58:15 AM
 :tup  Emailed to a group of BB fans.  Thank you for this.

Hank....the character I disliked the most at the beginning, and then pulled for the most later on.

They aren't going to do a sequel called 'The Walking Bad' are they?

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Post by: KevShmev on March 23, 2016, 06:38:41 PM
I always like Hank, because he was always entertaining. Okay, his tendency to drop racial slurs early on was off-putting, but they ditched that from his character early on in Season 2 once they figured out that he was otherwise a very likable character.  Just like Walt, Hank's biggest weakness was his pride.
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Post by: El Barto on March 24, 2016, 09:22:45 AM
I liked him before the exploding tortoise. After that he lost the gung-ho demeanor that made him so entertaining.

And I suppose pride is what did him in. I always thought he acted like an idiot once he put the WW together. Pride will do that.
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Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on March 24, 2016, 12:15:45 PM
I always like Hank, because he was always entertaining. Okay, his tendency to drop racial slurs early on was off-putting, but they ditched that from his character early on in Season 2 once they figured out that he was otherwise a very likable character.  Just like Walt, Hank's biggest weakness was his pride.
I didn't like Hank at the beginning as well, but as the show progressed he became a really deep and complex character you couldn't help to relate with. His Heisenberg obsession? Him finding out that Heisenberg was Walt all along? That's some pretty dense crap.
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Post by: KevShmev on March 24, 2016, 05:47:46 PM
I liked him before the exploding tortoise. After that he lost the gung-ho demeanor that made him so entertaining.
 

Okay, but I think an event like that would traumatize just about anyone, and while some of Hank's bravado after that was for show, he was very humanized after that.  The scene in One Minute where he tells Marie that he's not the man he thought he was, is just phenomenal.

His Heisenberg obsession? Him finding out that Heisenberg was Walt all along? That's some pretty dense crap.

Yep, I think that would cause a lot of people to act out in various ways, and when one of them is your brother-in-law who is a DEA agent with a cowboy complex ("I want to be the one to catch him, and I want to be the one to slap the cuffs on him." - slight paraphrasing), Hank's behavior following his discovery made total sense.  I mean, did we really expect Hank to NOT go after Walt with guns blazing once he found out?

And the sad thing, for Hank, is that, had Jack and his crew not shown up right after he arrested Walt, his full frontal assault plan would have worked to a "t."  He had Walt, in his words, dead to rights.
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Post by: El Barto on March 24, 2016, 06:44:54 PM
I liked him before the exploding tortoise. After that he lost the gung-ho demeanor that made him so entertaining.
 

Okay, but I think an event like that would traumatize just about anyone, and while some of Hank's bravado after that was for show, he was very humanized after that.  The scene in One Minute where he tells Marie that he's not the man he thought he was, is just phenomenal.
I agree with all of that. I just personally liked the character that thought he was more than he really was better than the morose character who felt inadequate.
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I mean, did we really expect Hank to NOT go after Walt with guns blazing once he found out?
I certainly expected him to. Hank was a hot-head and prideful, so weighing the pros and cons was never going to happen. He could only make the "Hank" choice and the disastrous consequences were inevitable.
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Post by: MirrorMask on March 26, 2016, 06:20:10 AM
Well, he wasn't 100% hot blooded - I remember a scene with Marie with him telling her "The minute I walk in with the evidence my carrer is over, he was under my nose and I didn't see him", so he wanted to make sure he got him dead to rights.

And, he actually got Walter. His bait with Jesse and the fake burning money worked, he got him. It was an horrible case of bad luck and "How the hell could I see that coming" that Walter called the nazis and not even because of Hank, since he thought he just needed help with Jesse. Hank finally got Heisenberg but stumbled at the very last step.
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Post by: KevShmev on March 26, 2016, 08:33:58 AM
I thought it was really cool how the flash forwards made several instances of the last season less predictable in the case of "what is going to happen?"

Jesse comes to burn Walt's house down and the episode ends - but we know from the flash forward that Walt later comes back and the house, while abandoned, is not burned down, so instead of wondering if Jesse will burn it down or not, the question was, what happens to prevent Jesse from burning it down?

Same thing with Hank arresting Walt - we know that Walt is free after being outed, via the flash forwards, so even when Hank is arresting him, we know that Walt is going to be freed at some point. This one was easier to guess, as my gut told me from the start that Jack and his crew would show up anyway even though Walt told them not to once he realized it was a trap set by Hank.  Still, great storytelling in that regard.

Plus, the questions lingered all season (both 5a and 5b) of who were the machine guns for, as well as who was the ricin for (5b). 
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Post by: El Barto on March 27, 2016, 11:45:49 AM
Well, he wasn't 100% hot blooded - I remember a scene with Marie with him telling her "The minute I walk in with the evidence my carrer is over, he was under my nose and I didn't see him", so he wanted to make sure he got him dead to rights.

And, he actually got Walter. His bait with Jesse and the fake burning money worked, he got him. It was an horrible case of bad luck and "How the hell could I see that coming" that Walter called the nazis and not even because of Hank, since he thought he just needed help with Jesse. Hank finally got Heisenberg but stumbled at the very last step.
At the end of the day Hank lost. In fact he got blown out. Twice. He lost the first game when he failed to figure it out thus wrecking his career. He lost the rematch when he figured it out but focused on revenge and wound up dead. The rematch was ill advised, to say the least. And while his gambit to lure Walt out to the desert was brilliant, his execution was fatally flawed. Walt's been beating him consistently for the last several years, and has managed take over the entire South Western crank market beating out the cartels to do so and employing (from Hank's perspective) a great deal of violence in the process. So he's going to meet him out in the desert with nobody but Gomey to back him up? The likelihood that Walt calls in backup was extremely high. I was saddened to see Hank get it, but he honestly had it coming.
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Post by: KevShmev on March 27, 2016, 07:27:22 PM
I disagree with that summation.

He wasn't "meeting" Walt in the desert where Walt might have backup; he tricked him into suddenly coming out there, and with Jesse telling him that he will burn all of his money if he hangs up on him, puts him on hold, loses the call, etc., he set it up to where Walt calling for backup was an impossibility until it was too late.  It was just too bad for Hank that Walt already had Jack and his crew ready to roll at a moment's notice.  Now, after arresting Walt, calling Marie to tell her instead of immediately calling for backup himself was a massive tactical error, as well as a lapse in judgment, but I would not say Hank was "blown out" in the battle of wits with Walt once they both had shown their hands.  Like I have said before, he did let his pride get the best of him, and he was too much of a cowboy, wanting to catch Walt on his own so he could be the one to slap the cuffs on him, but like you said, his plan was brilliant.  He lost, but even though he ended up dead, I think saying he got blown out is a bit unfair. 
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Post by: TioJorge on March 27, 2016, 08:17:19 PM
I agree so much with all of that. It was a great showdown and it was close enough to the end of the series that I really didn't know who was going to 'win'. Both had great plans and back-ups but at the end of it all, Hank jumped the gun and was blinded by his pride.

I'd also like to take this moment that, even after years of being over, that stupid, sloppy cunt Marie is the worst thing to ever happen on television. What a grating, annoying little bitch twat. Good LORD I am so sad we didn't get to see her die an agonizing death before Hank made that call so he might have made it instead to call for back up and we'd have a TRUE shootout between the Nazi-bros and the Piglet-bros. Although shit probably would have gone down anyway before the backup arrived.

Mainly Marie hate. She makes Skylar look like a brilliant, beautiful, goddess-like genius who is perfect in every way. That is how horrible Marie is.

Anyway fantastic series. :lol I'm going to have fun binging both Saul and this again back to back. So fucking much. It's going to be an homage orgy.
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Post by: KevShmev on March 27, 2016, 08:49:19 PM
I think I've said it before, but I will say it again: I never quite got why so many people hated Skylar.  Yes, she was a nag - I think it was the pilot where it was shown right away, when she busted Walt's chops for putting a $15 purchase on the wrong credit card :lol - but once her husband starting disappearing and acting weird (seasons 1 and 2), I think the way she acted is how most wives would act if they suspected their husband was up to something. And once she found out he was cooking meth, was she supposed to skip down the street with glee? :lol

For me, Marie was always annoying, yes, but they did lessen her annoyance over time, and they did make her somewhat of a sympathetic character when she legitimately trying to help Hank during his recovery and he was being a dick to her more often than not.  Still, she was certainly a self-centered person, but while annoying, it was like annoying in an entertaining way.  Plus, it added another dynamic to Hank's character, when you saw what he had to deal with when not at work. :lol :lol
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Post by: TioJorge on March 27, 2016, 09:02:57 PM
I honestly didn't hate Skylar at all even if she isn't my favorite character by a long shot, I just used it as a comparison for the reason that you just said, because for the most part she is hated by most fans. She annoyed me, but yeah by the latter-half of the series she didn't and I understood why she acted the way she did and it was pretty much justified. I also really felt for her at the end in that last scene, that was rough.

I can't logically agree on Marie. She was always a mindless, witless, blind fool who right up until the end annoyed the ever living hell out of me. Especially the last time we see her talking on the phone with Skylar about how without a doubt Walt is either dead or will be caught...a point that while yeah, it comes true...is more or less irrelevant given that Walt walked right into it purposefully. Also she is the worst liar on the planet...she easily trumps Walt and even he was pretty telling, except she lied about her psychotic kleptomania. But yeah Hank was one tough son of a bitch, and I use that comment only to reference him dealing with and not viciously murdering his wife.

Boy, the women in this series really were thrown to the wolves.  :lol I'm cool with Sky by the end but...Marie will always be in my book of most hated characters.
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Post by: Fiery Winds on March 27, 2016, 09:30:10 PM
Like many, I was annoyed with Skylar, but I always tempered that with the fact that she was mostly in the dark as to what was happening around her. The audience was made to sympathize with Walt at nearly every turn, but she didn't have that luxury of viewing their struggling relationship through that lens. Even once she found out, she didn't ask for any of it and was flying by the seat of her pants as to the type of person she wanted to be. Doesn't justify all her actions but makes them more understandable, and more importantly, makes her an interesting and flawed character.
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Post by: MirrorMask on March 28, 2016, 04:38:17 AM
Marie was indeed an annoying bitch, but Skyler took too much criticism. For all Walter put her through, she reacted even too good. He was distant, evasive, lying on top of lies that were becoming more and more evident - see how it all crumbled down at the end of season 2, and how quickly it was to discover them - , then he told her straight up he was a meth manufacturer... and she passed for the bitch of the family for throwing Walter out of the house without explanation. Sure, it was hard to just say "Well actually my husband is a drug lord" but still she stood by him somehow, even when Hank discovered it all she was reclutant to just let go of Walter and give him up. Self serving for sure, and protecting her childrne also, but still she didn't turn her back on him.

Also, Skyler got to tell Marie what we all thought at a point in the series: "Shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up!!!!!"  :biggrin:
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Post by: KevShmev on March 28, 2016, 05:23:37 PM
Boy, the women in this series really were thrown to the wolves.  :lol 

LOL, perhaps, but put me in the camp of those who thought Lydia was really attractive.  That actress is already attractive as heck, and Lydia's neurotic personality gave her that "I'd like to take her clothes off and see her cut loose" look.  :lol :lol :coolio :hat
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Post by: TioJorge on March 28, 2016, 07:50:22 PM
I mean...my comment wasn't regarding anything aesthetic at all but I agree.  :lol

I meant that most of them were fairly disposable characters and/or by the end were actually disposed of or might as well have been in regards to their impact on the story.
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Post by: Podaar on August 11, 2016, 10:35:57 AM
Mrs. P and I binge watched the entire series over the past month. So, now I can say I've seen it.
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Post by: faizoff on August 11, 2016, 06:59:32 PM
Sweet, I just started rewatching the first season. God I love this show.
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Post by: MirrorMask on August 12, 2016, 09:26:54 AM
Mrs. P and I binge watched the entire series over the past month. So, now I can say I've seen it.

And?

 :metal :hefdaddy ?
 :( ?
 :tup ?
 :tdwn ?
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Post by: Podaar on August 12, 2016, 09:30:08 AM
Exactly!  :lol
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on November 12, 2017, 04:11:12 AM
Started re-watching the show yesterday because I had an urge watching a teacher going rouge after a heavy week at work (working as a teacher myself).
It was interesting watching S01 and how quickly things were moving ahead, which you probably don't think about the first time you see it.
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Post by: gmillerdrake on March 30, 2018, 07:29:17 AM
My wife finished the series last night. I probably watched 80% of the series again along with her. She loved the show.....she was a real 'mom' about Jesse and just felt really bad for him the whole time. The scene when Hank was killed really got her also.....really got me the first time I saw it. She loved Mike also and was ticked when Walt killed him.


She's gonna start Better Call Saul to try and catch up in time so that we can watch Season 4 together.
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Post by: Grappler on March 30, 2018, 07:50:53 AM
My wife finished the series last night. I probably watched 80% of the series again along with her. She loved the show.....she was a real 'mom' about Jesse and just felt really bad for him the whole time. The scene when Hank was killed really got her also.....really got me the first time I saw it. She loved Mike also and was ticked when Walt killed him.


She's gonna start Better Call Saul to try and catch up in time so that we can watch Season 4 together.

I was pulling for Walt to succeed in his original plan to navigate this criminal underworld until the moment when Hank discovered who Heisenberg was.  In that instant my allegiance switched and I wanted Hank to finally catch the guy - everything he had been through while chasing Heisenberg made me want him to finally come out on top and overcome the assassination attempt, job problems, etc.

So when Hank died it was so crushing.  That episode (Ozymandias) is amazing.  Walt's actions finally caught up to him and the consequences were catastrophic to his family in so many ways.

We couldn't get into Better Call Saul, despite a few early season 1 cameos.  I think if I'm watching a show in that universe, I want Walt, Jesse and Hank and Saul every week.  I wasn't really into watching the guy become Saul Goodman.
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Post by: gmillerdrake on March 30, 2018, 08:23:12 AM
My wife finished the series last night. I probably watched 80% of the series again along with her. She loved the show.....she was a real 'mom' about Jesse and just felt really bad for him the whole time. The scene when Hank was killed really got her also.....really got me the first time I saw it. She loved Mike also and was ticked when Walt killed him.


She's gonna start Better Call Saul to try and catch up in time so that we can watch Season 4 together.

I was pulling for Walt to succeed in his original plan to navigate this criminal underworld until the moment when Hank discovered who Heisenberg was.  In that instant my allegiance switched and I wanted Hank to finally catch the guy - everything he had been through while chasing Heisenberg made me want him to finally come out on top and overcome the assassination attempt, job problems, etc.

So when Hank died it was so crushing.  That episode (Ozymandias) is amazing.  Walt's actions finally caught up to him and the consequences were catastrophic to his family in so many ways.

We couldn't get into Better Call Saul, despite a few early season 1 cameos.  I think if I'm watching a show in that universe, I want Walt, Jesse and Hank and Saul every week.  I wasn't really into watching the guy become Saul Goodman.

Right there with you on the evolution of 'caring' about Walt/Hank. After the attempt to kill Hank and the subsequent healing process for him I really started getting in to his character, and....i think he may have been my favorite character on the show. Just like you was pulling for him to take down Walt and for a while I thought that's the direction the show was going...which I guess in a way he succeeded.

But his death and that entire episode was BRUTAL!! So, powerful!! Even re-watching it with my wife I was moved.

As far as 'Better Call Saul'.....I started watching that before I ever saw Breaking Bad. But thanks to non stop prompting of KevShmev and my own brother on what I was missing out on....i binged Breaking Bad in (13) days  :lol   I really like BCS and think this past third season was awesome. I think the writing is just as good....acting is on point and the story is gripping.
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Post by: ganpondorodf on March 30, 2018, 08:37:57 AM
I hated Hank from the get go so his death didn't affect me at all. Always thought he was a douchebag.

Although I will say that I initially wanted Walt to 'win' but over the course of the last season or so I wanted him to get his comeuppance.
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Post by: Kattelox on March 30, 2018, 09:21:02 AM
I loved Hank. Loved him. He was a great character, and all he wanted to do was do his job and do it well. And god damn did he sell it when he connected the dots and then confronted Walt in the garage. From that point on he was better than ever. I couldn't get enough of his thirst for justice, working with Jesse to get Walt, finally placing him under arrest... and then Jack shows up. The final moments with Jack aiming the gun at Hank were just soul crushing, I must've bitten the nails off every one of my fingers watching Ozymandias. Probably the single best episode of television I've ever seen and I'll gush any time it's brought up.

"My name is ASAC Schrader, and you can go fuck yourself." Chills!
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Post by: TioJorge on March 30, 2018, 12:16:06 PM
I had a love/hate relationship with Hank's character. He was clearly very troubled at times (beating Jesse within an inch of life) and others he had the best of intentions but was still also such a moron. Then he'd do a 180 and make a really great and insightful discovery or connection in a case. By the end of the show his obsession with catching Walt made him a better detective than it did an enforcer of the law and he seemingly lost nearly all of that doofusness that he had in the early part of the series. He was great to watch though.
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Post by: gmillerdrake on March 30, 2018, 12:26:08 PM
I had a love/hate relationship with Hank's character. He was clearly very troubled at times (beating Jesse within an inch of life) and others he had the best of intentions but was still also such a moron. Then he'd do a 180 and make a really great and insightful discovery or connection in a case. By the end of the show his obsession with catching Walt made him a better detective than it did an enforcer of the law and he seemingly lost nearly all of that doofusness that he had in the early part of the series. He was great to watch though.

Yeah. Like I said, it wasn't until after the attempted assassination that I really started to dig his character. Up to that point he played a solid role....but after that it seemed like his character took a turn....which I imagine 'in real life' could happen if you came that close to death
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Post by: KevShmev on March 30, 2018, 05:17:29 PM
The flash forwards in Season 5 were a great example of the unbelievable writing.

Oh no, Jesse is going to burn Walt's house down!  Wait, no he's not, because we saw in the flash forward that the house is fine (albeit vandalized with graffiti), so what is going to stop Jesse from burning the house down?

Oh no, Hank is arresting Walt and he is going to jail! But wait, Walt is free in the flash foward, so what will happen where Walt is still free?
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Post by: TioJorge on March 30, 2018, 10:07:37 PM
Yeah, I was super suspicious of how they'd make it work but it was truly perfect.

It was even more impressive when Gilligan revealed in an interview that they had no idea how they were going to put to use the massive arsenal in Walt's trunk at the time of filming.
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Post by: MirrorMask on March 31, 2018, 07:06:41 AM
I was crushed too by Hank's death, but he was a bit of a.... not really, asshole, but at time he could be difficult to have around. He's a serious and toned down version of Elrich Bachman from Silicon Valley - the dude who is such a cool bro and assumes everyone loves to have him around ("Hey, get my Schraderbeer"), the one so sure of himself that at times become patronizing or smartassing in his ways etc... yeah, I get it dude, you're a superman, good for you, not stop flaunting your supposed awesomeness all around all the time.

Still, I fully emphatize with all the bad things he had to endure, and he went down like an hero. It was heartbreaking and brutal: Jack shooting him in the face as he was barely finished talking ("Do what you gotta d..."), the echo of the shot reverbering throughout the valley... that was one of the most poignant and dramatic moments of recent television, ever.


And to think it's all the fault of a random though-looking dude. The one that spooked Walter when he was supposed to meet with Jesse wearing a wire, while he was just waiting for his son. If he wasn't for him, Walter would have walked into the trap and he would have been arrested and none of the disasters that followed would have happened.
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Post by: KevShmev on March 31, 2018, 07:23:03 AM
Heh, that is true, but there are so many "what if"s with a show like that.

What if Hank doesn't have to take a dump and never stumbles across Leaves of Grass?

What if Hank had called for backup first instead of calling Marie to brag about having arrested Walt? (might not have saved his life, but everybody else likely doesn't get away there)

In so many ways, the way Hank played it after finding out about Walt was brilliant, and in many ways, his pride got the best of him, leading to his downfall.

Seven deadly sins, and the biggest for Walt and Hank was the same: pride.
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Post by: MirrorMask on March 31, 2018, 07:28:28 AM
Seven deadly sins, and the biggest for Walt and Hank was the same: pride.

That's for sure. When Walt was telling Hank that Gael was just a follower and not the actual Heisenberg, I was almost shouting at the screen "Shut up!!! shut up!!! what are you doing, you moron??? shut the hell up!!!!" Geez how I wanted to punch Walter for his sheer stupidity and his unforgivable pride. He had a patsy ready and served but nooo, he couldn't let someone else take credit for his work even if it meant making him the perfect fall guy and get anyone else off the Heisenberg trail.

And the best thing is that it was all believable and in line with his character. Often characters do dumb things because the plot demands it, that was an absolutely dumb thing for Walter to do, but it was perfectly in line with his character.
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Post by: KevShmev on March 31, 2018, 08:10:59 AM
My favorite Walt "pride" moment is "Stay out of my territory." Walt was ready to leave the business, but after chuckling about seeing some wannabes buying stuff to cook meth at the hardware store, the realization hit him that someone else was going to cook meth in his town and his pride took over.
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Post by: TioJorge on March 31, 2018, 12:26:31 PM
And then Thank You Scientist comes on and I'm like
"Oh it's on"
(https://media.giphy.com/media/jXrFZzWJM2JRC/giphy.gif)
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Post by: El Barto on April 02, 2018, 08:28:21 AM
I always thought Hank was a dumbass for going so hard after Walt once he made the connection. At that point it was a crushing defeat for Hank that he probably should have learned to live with. He was no longer a cop, and if he managed to bust Walt he'd be the one that looked like the jackass for letting his BiL cook for so long. Fairly or not he'd be implicated. He needed to lick his wounds, check his pride at the door, and move forward. I know for me learning all of the details would have been what's important.
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Post by: MirrorMask on April 02, 2018, 08:49:30 AM
Hank precisely knew he would have been the dumbass whose brother in law was Heisenberg. He esplicity tells Maria that the moment he walks with the evidence into the police station is carrer is over, and that's precisely why he was hell bent in nailing Walt and have him dead to rights.

Sure, he could have believed Walter that he was going to be dead soon, but why believe anything coming from his mouth after years of deception?
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Post by: Chino on April 02, 2018, 08:55:15 AM
The whole thing is Hank's fault. Had he not brought Walt on the ride along, none of this ever would have happened.
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Post by: gmillerdrake on April 02, 2018, 09:17:49 AM
The whole thing is Hank's fault. Had he not brought Walt on the ride along, none of this ever would have happened.

How true. Like Kev mentioned.....I love how the show illustrates how apparent very small, meaningless decisions ultimately affect big situations.
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Post by: axeman90210 on April 11, 2018, 08:37:26 AM
And then Thank You Scientist comes on and I'm like
"Oh it's on"
(https://media.giphy.com/media/jXrFZzWJM2JRC/giphy.gif)


wait, TYS was used in a Breaking Bad episode?
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Post by: Chino on April 12, 2018, 12:17:27 PM
The entire management team has been in LA all week and I recently upgraded my cellphone plan to unlimited 4G. I've had Breaking Bad in my cube all week. I'm watching the scene now where Ted has Skyler sing Happy Birthday to him in front of everyone... pisses me off every time. I don't know what it is about the scene that fills me with rage. It's annoying and a chore to watch.
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Post by: Kattelox on April 12, 2018, 05:35:18 PM
The entire management team has been in LA all week and I recently upgraded my cellphone plan to unlimited 4G. I've had Breaking Bad in my cube all week. I'm watching the scene now where Ted has Skyler sing Happy Birthday to him in front of everyone... pisses me off every time. I don't know what it is about the scene that fills me with rage. It's annoying and a chore to watch.

I agree. I could probably count on one hand the number of scenes I dislike (and still have fingers to spare) in this show, but that's one of them.
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Post by: TioJorge on April 12, 2018, 06:04:41 PM
And then Thank You Scientist comes on and I'm like
"Oh it's on"
(https://media.giphy.com/media/jXrFZzWJM2JRC/giphy.gif)


wait, TYS was used in a Breaking Bad episode?

Wooooow I do this all the time and I have no idea why. It was TV On The Radio, the hardware store "stay out of my territory" scene. I always mix the two bands up for no reason.  :huh:
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Post by: DragonAttack on April 13, 2018, 04:27:55 PM
A great photo from weeks ago on the BB tour facebook page.......the bus (excuse me, RV) was parked in front of the White house, and a 727 flew over.

Wonder how much they paid the airline to do so at that moment ;)
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Post by: MetalJunkie on April 28, 2018, 05:08:11 PM
My friend went to see her family in Albuquerque and brought me back a gift.

(https://i.imgur.com/nrAbbKO.png)
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Post by: MirrorMask on April 29, 2018, 03:24:14 AM
Hahaha I want it too!!!

Just for curiosity, what it is? candy that you can eat or plastic stuff you're supposed to not take away from the envelope?