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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: emindead on June 24, 2011, 03:49:00 PM
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Now, I don't have anything against gay people, in fact, I support gay rights. I may be straight, but I think that gay people should be able to do whatever they like just like anyone else.
But my friend came out to me a little bit ago over the phone. I've known him for a loooong time, since I was in Elementary school and I had no clue he was gay all this time. Now, like I said, I have no problem with that... But then he told me something else...
He told me that he likes me, and he always has. That's still not the most surprising part.
I was like "I'm sorry dude, you're my best friend but I don't like guys..." He says something like "Well, before you say no, let me try something." I'm like "What?" So he tells me he'll be over in a few minutes. Knock at the door, open it up and my best friend is standing there in drag. That itself is not the most surprising part. The most surprising part is that he actually looked good. If he didn't talk in his normal voice, I would never have known it was him. He looked like a completely different person, and, well, like a girl. So he tells me that not only is he gay, but he's transgendered and wants to have a sex change.
At this point I'm like completely weirded out. I really don't know what to think. So he changes his voice to be more feminine and starts trying to... you know... turn me on, I guess.... I'm like "Dude, I can't do this..." So he backs me up against the wall and asks me "Do you think I'm pretty?" And well... Considering that he was made up in such a way that he looked completely like a girl (and he's always been kind of thin and androgynous anyway), I said "....Yeah..." So he tells me something like "Then kiss me. It's just like kissing a girl. Just pretend that I'm a girl. Someday I'll be a girl too." So I'm like "Dude... I can't... This is too weird..." And so he like... wraps his arms around me and says something like "Please give me a chance. I really love you and it's not really gay for you since I look like a girl and when I get enough money I'm gonna have a sex change." And I just... I looked at him, who didn't even look like my male best friend anymore and thought.... He did look kind of cute... ...And so I kissed him... ...And I don't mean like... a peck on the cheek... I mean full blown french kissing... ...And eventually we were on the couch making out... ......It felt so good..... After we were done he was like "I know I was a little forceful so please think about it more. It's okay if you don't want to keep this up, but please think about it." and he left.
...And well, here I am.... I really don't know what to think... I mean... We are best friends and... he does want to get a sex change and he's kinda cute when he's dressed like that but.... It's still kinda weird...
...What do I do? I'm not gay, btw.
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Holy shit. When you say "making out" and "after we were done".. What do you mean exactly?
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Cool story bro???
Honestly I was waiting for the post to end with "I got in one little fight and my moms got scared and said "ya movin witcha auntsie and uncle in Belair' ."
But seriously if everything you posted is 100% honest I'd simply advise you to be as supportive as you can comfortably be with your friend and stand your ground for what your comfort levels are. These are likely the most trying times of this dude's life and to make matters worse he's gonna have to deal with moderate(at the very least) heartache since based on your wording and tragically heterosexual lifestyle he won't be getting a love interest for whom he's pined for a very long time.
So basically I'm saying to put yourself in his shoes as much as possible to fully understand his view of things. You may have to put up with some very uncomfortable advances (once again, stand your ground in a non-hurtful way in order to make it VERY clear what is/isn't acceptable behavior) and this will likely be a daunting experience but you mainly need to realize that this will take a good while to unfold and your friend will likely come back to earth pretty soon once he gets a better grip on his emotions and has a chance to settle into this new "skin."
Also, be aware of any unusual activity in his behavior because(I swear I hate to be needlessly alarming) while nothing you mentioned in the OP is indicative of suicidal behavior sometimes when folks come out they have a traumatically difficult time dealing with some of the reactions they encounter and this can become a very dark and scary time for them if they feel they don't have the kind of support system around them they need to get through such turbulent times.
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I read this thinking it was one of those Luke Skywalker stories...
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Is this real?
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Is this real?
*checks date*
I guess...
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I read this thinking it was one of those Luke Skywalker stories...
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...What do I do?
Assuming this is for serious, the most important thing right now is to be absolutely sure you know how you feel about the situation before things go any further. If he got the sex change, how would you feel about the relationship? Would you be comfortable when/if other people know? How about until he gets the sex change, how are you going to feel about the relationship until the surgery actually happens? What if, for some reason, the sex change never happens, how would you feel and what would you do then?
Tough situation, what you do from here depends a lot on how feel about different issues.
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I read this thinking it was one of those Luke Skywalker stories...
Same!! Got a little way into it, then scrolled down 'cause I thought I'd rumbled it, before realising... oh, christ!
That is one HELL of a weird story. I have absolutely no idea what I'd do. FWIW I kind of think of sexuality as a sliding scale - I think 100% straight and 100% gay are very rare ideals. So, I wouldn't start questioning yourself too much.
Also, just so it's out of the way, I figure someone's going to say "Stick it in his/her pooper," before long. So er - first?
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I read this thinking it was one of those Luke Skywalker stories...
Exactly this.
I'm afraid it'll sound rude if this isn't the case, but is this supposed to be a joke?
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Assuming I'm not being badly trolled here (I probably am though):
Let him make his own choices, but if you don't want him coming on to you - make it perfectly clear. Also, it might help to keep his secret a secret and not spread it around the interwebz like this.
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Well, rest assured that, if you do continue this, you will have intercourse before your friend gets the sex change.
Also, it might help to keep his secret a secret and not spread it around the interwebz like this.
If this happened to me this would be exactly what I would do. It's not like anyone knows who it is right?
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It felt so good
I'm not gay, btw.
You might want to double check that.
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At first I thought it was a dare, and he was just trolling you. But if he went so far as to make out with you...I dunno man. I just don't know.
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If I made a thread like this I would be refreshing this five times a second waiting for the first reply. Emindead hasn't even checked it yet.
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If I made a thread like this I would be refreshing this five times a second waiting for the first reply. Emindead hasn't even checked it yet.
You're right. Could have been hacked.
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The whole thing's copypasted. A simple google search would show that.
So don't take it seriously. It's a joke, I guess. How funny.
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Well that sucks.
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Meh.
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Well, he sure showed us. Something. I guess?
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The whole thing's copypasted. A simple google search would show that.
So don't take it seriously. It's a joke, I guess. How funny.
Really glad you pointed that out. Now it's only somewhat creepy, as opposed to, well, full blown creepy.
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HA HA HA HA
GOOD ONE EMINDEAD!!!!!!
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Well that was a dead interesting inkblot test for the ten posts or so it lasted.
Seconding the creepiness. Can't be the only one who tried to measure how I'd react though. It's like trying to work out how you'd handle a zombie invasion - it's never gonna happen, but dear jesus, it's weird enough that you don't want to be caught off guard.
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wow, i'm glad it was copy/pasted.
cuz the big nasty was about to rant, and set this thread straight.
nice one btw emindead, although i must say the "is this real" thing popped into my head.
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What a strange copypasta.
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What a strange copypasta.
I think it's the lack of a punchline. Makes the responses the interesting bit.
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The whole thing's copypasted. A simple google search would show that.
So don't take it seriously. It's a joke, I guess. How funny.
DAMMIT!
What a strange copypasta.
I think it's the lack of a punchline. Makes the responses the interesting bit.
Definitely was going for this. I tried not to creep out in class when I read this.
As someone pointed out in one of the comments I read, I had a small chump after reading this. It was weird. (https://http.cdnlayer.com/fiveeightsmilies/eyes2.gif)
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Can't believe how many people bought this. :lol
Way more successful than most troll threads of its type. Good work emin. :tup
-J
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Well, the problem is that I wouldn't actually want anybody to even entertain the idea that it could be true if I had posted it. Any response other than "has to be a fake. El Barto would have set him, his dog, car and three closest relatives on fire" would be a failure, in my book.
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Hot story, good writing Emin. Don't believe it though! ;)
EDIT: Heh always read threads in full before responding.
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For a second I thought I was reading about how emin and Nick met up
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YOU PROMISED YOU WOULDN'T TELL!
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Someone pulled the shiny pidgey copypasta gag on another forum I frequent. I usually find it's used by people with lame senses of humor trying to be funny or provocative or "trolls."
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For a second I thought I was reading about how emin and Nick met up
Return of the orange frog?! Yessssssssss
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I feel like this is some sort of copypasta from *CENSORED*
Regardless, I do know somebody who is gay and is actually in the process of getting a sex change. He came out to me and I've been supportive of him for years. I haven't exactly been in that position though
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Someone pulled the shiny pidgey copypasta gag on another forum I frequent. I usually find it's used by people with lame senses of humor trying to be funny or provocative or "trolls."
I find your opinions extremely delightful. Tell me more.
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There once was a man from Nantucket.
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Regardless, I do know somebody who is gay and is actually in the process of getting a sex change. He came out to me and I've been supportive of him for years. I haven't exactly been in that position though
Serious question: is he waiting -shockingly, like the guy in the story- to save the money/find the proper time to do it?
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For a second I thought I was reading about how emin and Nick met up
Return of the orange frog?! Yessssssssss
AND YOU!?!
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Regardless, I do know somebody who is gay and is actually in the process of getting a sex change. He came out to me and I've been supportive of him for years. I haven't exactly been in that position though
Serious question: is he waiting -shockingly, like the guy in the story- to save the money/find the proper time to do it?
No, like he has boobs now and a 5 o'clock shadow still. He's in the process of starting hormone therapy
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Hmmm... I have a question:
Does it make sense to say a guy is gay and transgendered?
If he is transgendered, he identifies himself as a woman, so it's not gay if he like dudes.
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I think it's because he's still a male, so he has to identify that he is gay to let others know he likes men
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Hmmm... I have a question:
Does it make sense to say a guy is gay and transgendered?
If he is transgendered, he identifies himself as a woman, so it's not gay if he like dudes.
Exactly what I was thinking. Tisk tisk copypasta.
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Hmmm... I have a question:
Does it make sense to say a guy is gay and transgendered?
If he is transgendered, he identifies himself as a woman, so it's not gay if he like dudes.
Exactly what I was thinking. Tisk tisk copypasta.
Yes, but he may have been attracted to guys before he identified himself as a woman, thus gay.
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But at the time of the story, he identifies himself as a woman, thus not gay.
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The question wasn't about the story, the question was about transgender men in general.
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transgender men who like men are gay
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So the real question is: Would you make out with a transgender if s/he looked good and didn't have a hint of manliness to him/her (unsure of what pronouns go here)?
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The question wasn't about the story, the question was about transgender men in general.
Either way, transgendered men are already transgendered and, similarly to homosexuality, were always trangendered.
transgender men who like men are gay
Transgendered men who like men are women who like men. So, not gay.
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The question wasn't about the story, the question was about transgender men in general.
Either way, transgendered men are already transgendered and, similarly to homosexuality, were always trangendered.
hmm, you might actually be right. But to be honest I'm rather drunk right now and all these hypothetical gender identity and sexuality combinations are kind of hurting my head.
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The question wasn't about the story, the question was about transgender men in general.
Either way, transgendered men are already transgendered and, similarly to homosexuality, were always trangendered.
hmm, you might actually be right. But to be honest I'm rather drunk right now and all these hypothetical gender identity and sexuality combinations are kind of hurting my head.
*immature chuckling*
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I haven't exactly been in that position though
What position have you been in?
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I haven't exactly been in that position though
What position have you been in?
Sometimes, they just make it too easy.
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I haven't exactly been in that position though
What position have you been in?
Sometimes, they just make it too easy.
For real, I stopped myself from going for it.
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This reminds me of that Nip/Tuck episode where the son of McNamara had sex with her teacher. Of course Troy had to have sex with her only to find out she actually was a transgendered: "Am I too much of a women to you!" she cried after his anagnorisis. Before being a transgendered, he was gay. After being one... technically he's still gay... *Head full of fuck moment.*
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I haven't exactly been in that position though
What position have you been in?
Sometimes, they just make it too easy.
For real, I stopped myself from going for it.
I have no shame.
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Man who transitions to woman: trans woman, not trans man.
Very interesting thread...
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The question wasn't about the story, the question was about transgender men in general.
Either way, transgendered men are already transgendered and, similarly to homosexuality, were always trangendered.
transgender men who like men are gay
Transgendered men who like men are women who like men. So, not gay.
WTF are you talking about? Why would they become women in the first place if they didn't want to get with men?
Alright guys didnt think this one through but I'm not making a new post because i want to keep my post count
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The question wasn't about the story, the question was about transgender men in general.
Either way, transgendered men are already transgendered and, similarly to homosexuality, were always trangendered.
transgender men who like men are gay
Transgendered men who like men are women who like men. So, not gay.
WTF are you talking about? Why would they become women in the first place if they didn't want to get with men?
Are you trolling?
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WTF are you talking about? Why would they become women in the first place if they didn't want to get with men?
:facepalm:
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How did he get a 'leet' amount of posts?
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How did he get a 'leet' amount of posts?
I'm guessing it just changes to leet when you hit 1337, I know you can do that.
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The question wasn't about the story, the question was about transgender men in general.
Either way, transgendered men are already transgendered and, similarly to homosexuality, were always trangendered.
transgender men who like men are gay
Transgendered men who like men are women who like men. So, not gay.
WTF are you talking about? Why would they become women in the first place if they didn't want to get with men?
(if your not trolling) You should watch/read personal accounts of why someone chooses to make that change. Sexual desire is rarely ever the reason. Personality and character differences from what society expects is generally the reason.
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This reminds me of that Nip/Tuck episode where the son of McNamara had sex with her teacher. Of course Troy had to have sex with her only to find out she actually was a transgendered: "Am I too much of a women to you!" she cried after his anagnorisis. Before being a transgendered, he was gay. After being one... technically he's still gay... *Head full of fuck moment.*
The only issue with that whole season was anyone believing that Famke Jennsen could have ever been a man.
I've seen some good tranny's but that one defies credulity....which may or may not be a word.
I was reminded of Quagmire's reaction in the gay bar upon meeting a transgendered person.
(snicker)
Quagmire:
BACK OFF TRANNY!.....wait...pre-op or post-op?
Pre-op
BACK OFF TRANNY!
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Sounds like you should just embrace your feelings and accept that you're gay. ;)
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How did he get a 'leet' amount of posts?
I'm guessing it just changes to leet when you hit 1337, I know you can do that.
This, it automatically happens here.
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So...what if He/she is post op, and likes guys? Are they Gay?
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So...what if He/she is post op, and likes guys? Are they Gay?
If they are post-op, they're a woman.
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So...what if He/she is post op, and likes guys? Are they Gay?
If they are post-op, they're a woman.
That would be my thought too Hef, but I'm sure some would say different.
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So...what if He/she is post op, and likes guys? Are they Gay?
If they are post-op, they're a woman.
That would be my thought too Hef, but I'm sure some would say different.
Just people who are in no position to.
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So...what if He/she is post op, and likes guys? Are they Gay?
If they are post-op, they're a woman.
That would be my thought too Hef, but I'm sure some would say different.
Just people who are in no position to.
Well sometimes, but depending on the reassignment procedures they've had and things like hormone production etc., they may or may not technically be a woman. Unless you're one of those who think that male and female are simply "identities" and not biological phenomena.
-J
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Even with hormones, and surgeries, when it comes down to chromosones he/she is still male. Now, that's the scientific. Like others mention the question of "Identity" is completely different. To me, if someone thinks of themselves 100% as a woman...then for all intents and purposes "Identity" wise...they are.
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Even with hormones, and surgeries, when it comes down to chromosones he/she is still male. Now, that's the scientific. Like others mention the question of "Identity" is completely different. To me, if someone thinks of themselves 100% as a woman...then for all intents and purposes "Identity" wise...they are.
So you would have sex with a post-op transgender woman?
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Even with hormones, and surgeries, when it comes down to chromosones he/she is still male. Now, that's the scientific. Like others mention the question of "Identity" is completely different. To me, if someone thinks of themselves 100% as a woman...then for all intents and purposes "Identity" wise...they are.
So you would have sex with a post-op transgender woman?
It's not on my bucket list..... :biggrin:
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Even with hormones, and surgeries, when it comes down to chromosones he/she is still male. Now, that's the scientific. Like others mention the question of "Identity" is completely different. To me, if someone thinks of themselves 100% as a woman...then for all intents and purposes "Identity" wise...they are.
So you would have sex with a post-op transgender woman?
Totally depends. She would have to be damn sexy.
But seriously, why should it matter? I mean if you're not attracted to someone, you're not attracted to someone, but if you are then why let principle stop you?
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If the OP had turned out to be legit, I would have responded with: "Sexuality is fluid. If it feels good, do it. Screw what other people think."
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Amen.
Even with hormones, and surgeries, when it comes down to chromosones he/she is still male. Now, that's the scientific. Like others mention the question of "Identity" is completely different. To me, if someone thinks of themselves 100% as a woman...then for all intents and purposes "Identity" wise...they are.
:tup
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Well I can't wait to watch the Crying Game this afternoon.
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Well I can't wait to watch the Crying Game this afternoon.
:lol Serious...first time I saw that flick I had no clue what was happening till the...umm... unwrapping...
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I knew what was coming and was still blown away.
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I actually totally believed it until I read later posts. :lol Well played.
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Even with hormones, and surgeries, when it comes down to chromosones he/she is still male. Now, that's the scientific. Like others mention the question of "Identity" is completely different. To me, if someone thinks of themselves 100% as a woman...then for all intents and purposes "Identity" wise...they are.
I am the greatest.
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I'm not gay, btw.
:lol :lol :lol :lol
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Is anyone else really curious to know what happened to this actual guy?
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Is anyone else really curious to know what happened to this actual guy?
It was fake?
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This didn't happen to Emindead but it was someone else on the vast wonders of the interwebs.
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This didn't happen to Emindead but it was someone else on the vast wonders of the interwebs.
Someone typed it so it obviously happened. That's how the internet works.
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I found it on a blog and it was posted 7 months ago and nothing about it since :P
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(https://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/27536_106648389376429_80_n.jpg)
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by the 5th paragraph, it was clear it was completely fake. i can't believe people fell for this.. pretty funny though
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what I miss? emindead likes bones now?
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Even with hormones, and surgeries, when it comes down to chromosones he/she is still male. Now, that's the scientific. Like others mention the question of "Identity" is completely different. To me, if someone thinks of themselves 100% as a woman...then for all intents and purposes "Identity" wise...they are.
So you would have sex with a post-op transgender woman?
Totally depends. She would have to be damn sexy.
But seriously, why should it matter? I mean if you're not attracted to someone, you're not attracted to someone, but if you are then why let principle stop you?
I dunno. Hmm...
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what I miss? emindead likes bones now?
(https://images.wikia.com/bones/images/8/8d/Emily-deschanel.jpg)
Damn right I do.
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Honestly I was waiting for the post to end with "I got in one little fight and my moms got scared and said "ya movin witcha auntsie and uncle in Belair' ."
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what I miss? emindead likes bones now?
(https://images.wikia.com/bones/images/8/8d/Emily-deschanel.jpg)
Damn right I do.
:heart
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If the OP had turned out to be legit, I would have responded with: "Sexuality is fluid. If it feels good, do it. Screw what other people think."
Same here.
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whats wrong
with being gay?!
im offended by this thread
i have gay friends
and even friends who are
transexuals.
and the fact that you guys
are all up and arms
and flipping out about a
gay pefson is completely fucked up.
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whats wrong
with being gay?!
im offended by this thread
i have gay friends
and even friends who are
transexuals.
and the fact that you guys
are all up and arms
and flipping out about a
gay pefson is completely fucked up.
I feel like this used to be a poem before you typed it.
I've not seen that many people flipping out, tbh. Couple of less elucidated responses, but it's mostly been pretty cool.
Although I may have just mentally papered over the more reprehensible ones. I dunno!
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no.
i cant believre
the people in
this thread
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no.
i cant believre
the people in
this thread
What the hell is wrong with you as of late?
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Maybe he's imitating how he used to be gay and how he used to make all his posts look like poems.
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bedecieved, Adami. beverydecieved.
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