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Title: The Cure
Post by: Ravenheart on June 22, 2011, 02:13:23 PM
One of the best bands ever, and probably the most well-known goth band in the world. It's time there is a thread in their honor.

They're dark, emotional, creative, gorgeous, and highly innovative. For all intensive purposes, they are a goth band, but manage to incorporate many different and diverse sounds and styles into their music.

Most of their popularity ma have been centered in the 80s (and they were the best band of that time period along with Depeche Mode), but they continue to remain relevant, creative, and loved throughout the world.

Discuss, please.

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Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: MasterShakezula on June 22, 2011, 02:26:32 PM
Not familiar with any of their works, but I've heard great things about them and am open-minded, and would like to know where to start, in terms of their discography. 
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Ravenheart on June 22, 2011, 02:28:48 PM
I'd say Disintegration is the best place to start. It's by far their best album, but it's a little dense and and may take some time to get used to it. But once you get there, it's one of the most beautiful things your ears will ever hear.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: lonestar on June 22, 2011, 04:20:33 PM
I was in high school during their peak, and dismissed them because of their goth connection, which didn't flow with a proper 80's metalhead.  Now being older and wiser, it is one band I truly regret not enjoying in their heyday.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Sigz on June 22, 2011, 04:23:00 PM
My 14 year old sister really likes them.

Reason enough not to :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Ravenheart on June 22, 2011, 04:30:31 PM
Meh, your loss.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Dittomist on June 22, 2011, 04:52:10 PM
The Cure and Dream Theater are my two favorite bands ever so it's nice to know there are others out there who adore both.
I bought my first Cure album when I was in 8th grade I think, and before I knew it, I owned over 25 Cure CD's (I found out that I needed to buy the singles too because Cure b-sides tend to be incredible).
I would agree with Ravenheart that Disintegration is their best album. It's the ultimate rainy night soundtrack: atmospheric, melancholy, haunting, intense, beautiful.
Here is how I would rank all The Cure albums.
1. Disintegration
2. Wish
3. Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me
4. The Head on the Door
5. Faith
6. Wild Mood Swings
7. Pornography
8. 4:13 Dream
9. The Top
10. 17 Seconds
11. Bloodflowers
12. The Cure
13. Three Imaginary Boys

I am so glad that they are still going strong after 30 years.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Ravenheart on June 22, 2011, 05:02:49 PM
:tup

Bloodflowers is actually my 2nd favorite after Disintegration. I feel like it's almost a modern version of that album. Great to see another avid fan on the board, though.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: SystematicThought on June 22, 2011, 05:09:18 PM
I really like the song Just Like Heaven. That's about as far as I've gone. I'll probably check out more soon
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Quadrochosis on June 22, 2011, 09:55:09 PM
The Cure is one of the best bands that were really best known in the 80s. I used to listen to them all the time when I was younger, but I haven't really listened to them in a loooooong time. I gotta change that.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: contest_sanity on June 23, 2011, 12:04:36 AM
Surely the

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didn't make this thread.













































I've heard of The Cure.



:neverusethis:



Actually, though, I really haven't heard them.  I've heard Anberlin's cover of "Lovesong," which I liked FWIW.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Ravenheart on June 23, 2011, 09:37:27 AM
 :lol

You should hear the original. Then the entire album. Then their entire discography.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Durg on June 23, 2011, 10:08:05 AM
I really didn't get into them in the 80's and 90's.  I saw their videos on MTV and heard their music on the radio and can only remember one song by them.  I just remember how gay that lead singer looked and was turned off by that.  I kind of dismissed them as a depressed Culture Club.  The older sister of my girlfriend in high school listed to them and Depeche Mode as well and she was pretty weird.  Of course I would have been pretty creeped out by anyone listening to Opeth back then too, but today I have a more open mind and like most of Opeth's stuff.  So, maybe I should check them out.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Ravenheart on June 23, 2011, 10:12:01 AM
Well, I'm not sure what "gay lead singer" is supposed to mean, but if you're interested enough, I'll once again recommend Disintegration. Every band has their fare share of weird fans, so I don't think The Cure are particularly special in that department.

Of course, most people would say I'm weird, so take that for what it's worth  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Durg on June 23, 2011, 10:34:00 AM
Well, I'm not sure what "gay lead singer" is supposed to mean, but if you're interested enough, I'll once again recommend Disintegration. Every band has their fare share of weird fans, so I don't think The Cure are particularly special in that department.

Of course, most people would say I'm weird, so take that for what it's worth  :biggrin:

Yeah.  Come to think of it most people say I'm weird too.   :-\   Including my wife!

I'll explain the "gay lead singer" comment.  I grew up Baptist in southern Arkansas.  In the 80's if someone had an earring on they were assumed to be gay (later it was only the guys with an earring in the left ear  :lol).  If a guy put on make-up they were gay.  It was a very common, 80's mentality especially in the Bible belt.  The lead singer for the Cure usually had on lipstick and eye shadow did he not?  Just like Boy George.  Now at 41 I could care less.  I care more for good music and I don't get all offended by such things.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Ravenheart on June 23, 2011, 11:05:45 AM
Ah, makes sense. I can see a bible belt being really anal about a guy in mascara and lipstick  :lol

I think part of the reason I was so attracted to them at an early age was because the look wasn't socially unacceptable in general. As I grew older I began to appreciate their music more and more. I'm a huge fan of the 80s goth scene--The Cure, Depeche Mode, Sisters of Mercy, New Order, Bauhaus, etc. I'm the only person my age I know who is  :P
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: ZirconBlue on June 23, 2011, 11:09:41 AM
Well, I'm not sure what "gay lead singer" is supposed to mean

You know.  Like Rob Halford.   ;)
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Ravenheart on June 23, 2011, 11:14:18 AM
Yeah, except Robert Smith ain't gay  :P A lot of his lyrics are about relationships with women in some way.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Gadough on June 23, 2011, 11:22:41 AM
This is my coworker's favorite band. He swears by them. In his own words: "The Cure is my favorite band, and they should be everybody's favorite band."

I'm not a fan though.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Ravenheart on June 23, 2011, 11:25:00 AM
I'm not a fan though.
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Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Gadough on June 23, 2011, 11:26:42 AM
That thing > Robert Smith
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Ravenheart on June 23, 2011, 11:27:57 AM
Even the llama would admit that he's not as awesome as Robert Smith.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: ZirconBlue on June 23, 2011, 02:05:15 PM
Yeah, except Robert Smith ain't gay  :P A lot of his lyrics are about relationships with women in some way.

I know.  I was just trying to emphasize the difference between the concept of a "gay singer" and an actual gay singer.  People have such silly ideas of sexuality and "proper" gender roles.

Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Ravenheart on June 23, 2011, 02:06:59 PM
Okay.

ZIRCONBLUE LISTEN TO THE CURE
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: wkiml on June 23, 2011, 02:50:52 PM
I really like the song Just Like Heaven. That's about as far as I've gone. I'll probably check out more soon

This is the song the grabbed me and pulled me head long into a love with the band....Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me will always be a special album to me but Disintergration is IMHO by far their best album. I listened to this daily for almost 2 years upon its release and still go back to it quite often
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Dittomist on June 23, 2011, 05:40:00 PM
I was familiar with a few Cure songs when I was a kid, mostly Friday I'm In Love and The Caterpillar. I liked everything I heard, but I didn't want to give them a real chance because they were "80's English wuss music" and I was strictly a metalhead at the time. Then I saw a video for "Lovesong" when I was in middle school, and it made such an impression on me that I immediately bought Disintegration, which then started a major obsession. And shortly after, I couldn't get enough 80's synth pop, especially Depeche Mode, Pet Shop Boys, New Order, Tears For Fears, Duran Duran, Erasure, etc.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: dongringo on June 23, 2011, 10:43:11 PM
One of my favorites is their self titled concept album The Cure from 2004. Simple concept...the rise and fall of lovers. But man, this album contains some of their best work. Great live band as well. They put on quite the show. Very intense to say the least. Great band!
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Ravenheart on June 23, 2011, 10:50:34 PM
Yeah, their self-titled is excellent.

Wha I've noticed with The Cure is that, along with Depeche Mode and New Order, nearly all of their output is excellent. Bloodflowers is just as good as their older albums.

I'd love to see them live. A guy I know from another forum caught them on their special tour in Australia where they performed their first 3 albums live. God, what I wouldn't have given to have seen that...
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: dongringo on June 23, 2011, 10:52:40 PM
Can't imagine seeing that. Must have been mind blowing to those lucky ones who had the privilege of seeing that.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Durg on June 24, 2011, 06:31:06 AM
I was familiar with a few Cure songs when I was a kid, mostly Friday I'm In Love and The Caterpillar. I liked everything I heard, but I didn't want to give them a real chance because they were "80's English wuss music" and I was strictly a metalhead at the time. Then I saw a video for "Lovesong" when I was in middle school, and it made such an impression on me that I immediately bought Disintegration, which then started a major obsession. And shortly after, I couldn't get enough 80's synth pop, especially Depeche Mode, Pet Shop Boys, New Order, Tears For Fears, Duran Duran, Erasure, etc.

I was really into Tears For Fears in the late 80's.  But not really the others.  Huey Lewis and the News was my thing.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: ZirconBlue on June 24, 2011, 06:51:20 AM
Okay.

ZIRCONBLUE LISTEN TO THE CURE

I already do.   ;D  My wife's a big fan, and I like some of their stuff.  Personally, I'm partial to the more atmospheric-yet-danceable stuff like "Burn", or their cover of "Purple Haze".
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Dittomist on June 24, 2011, 10:24:23 AM
I am extremely envious of everyone who saw those special shows in Australia last month, where they played Three Imaginary Boys, 17 Seconds, and Faith in their entirety. It was filmed for a DVD called Reflections which will come out later this year I assume. What makes those shows so special is how The Cure played with Lol Tolhurst for the first time in 20 years; considering all the bickering and lawsuits, I certainly never expected to see them share the stage again. I was also delighted that Roger O'Donnel returned to play the keyboards. Robert Smith is a genius but he must be a little hard to work with, because the line-up changes a little with every album it seems, and several members have been on again-off again.

Has anyone noticed how Simon Gallop never ages? That guy seriously has to be a vampire.

I also agree with the quality and ambition of all of The Cure's albums. I thought their most recent album, 4:13 Dream, was their strongest since 96's Wild Mood Swings. It has an unfortunate absense of keyboards because Robert didn't bother to replace Roger O'Donnel, but man, it really rocks!

And even though it's expensive, their b-side collection, Join the Dots, is absolutely essential for diehard Cure fans, as it contains many of their best songs.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Ravenheart on June 24, 2011, 10:38:30 AM
I need those b-sides! You can never have enough Cure, and I hear their b-sides are excellent.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Ravenheart on July 11, 2011, 09:29:28 PM
Just got the Join the Dots collection. I'm stoked to listen to it. I'll report my opinion about it later. I'm sure you're all just dying to know.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Dittomist on July 12, 2011, 12:32:53 AM
Pay extra attention to This Twilight Garden, Play, A Chain of Flowers, Adonais, The Exploding Boy, Too Late, and Fear of Ghosts :)
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: jag66 on July 12, 2011, 01:59:24 AM
Disintegration is in my top 10 albums ever. Some of their other stuff aint bad either..
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Ravenheart on July 12, 2011, 02:24:27 AM
Pay extra attention to This Twilight Garden, Play, A Chain of Flowers, Adonais, The Exploding Boy, Too Late, and Fear of Ghosts :)
Will do.  :tup


Disintegration is in my top 10 albums ever. Some of their other stuff aint bad either..
A whole bunch of their other stuff is incredible, even though Disintegration reigns supreme.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Ravenheart on August 03, 2011, 11:02:13 PM
Going through Join the Dots, finally. There's some extremely beautiful stuff in here.

God, I love this band  :heart
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: MasterShakezula on May 15, 2012, 06:10:29 PM
I never did get around to getting Disintegration, but did end up with Seventeen Seconds and Faith recently. 

I've only heard the latter a couple of times, but the former is one of my most played jams, lately. 

A Forest is one of the coolest bleak things I've heard; well, the whole album is, actually. 
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Phoenix87x on May 15, 2012, 06:30:34 PM
So I have Disintegration which I love and Wish, which I haven't really gotten into that much.

    any recommendations as to which album I should check out next?
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: MasterShakezula on May 15, 2012, 07:01:45 PM
I'd heavily recommend Seventeen Seconds, which I just gushed about. 

Like, check out the song A Forest.  If you like that, you'll like the whole album.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Ravenheart on May 15, 2012, 07:04:29 PM
Some other good ones are Pornography, which is their darkest and grittiest album, The Head on the Door, which is more pop-sensitive, and Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me, which is kind of a big mashup of all their styles with various experimentations thrown in.

Bloodflowers is kind of a callback to Disintegration and is also amazing.


Also, I saw them live last November. Meant to post about it during that time but forgot. Absolutely amazing 3 hours or orgasmic Cure goodness.  :hefdaddy
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Phoenix87x on May 15, 2012, 07:15:23 PM
Thanks for the recommendations guys, I definitely will be picking up some more albums.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: MondayMorningLunatic on May 15, 2012, 10:15:26 PM
The Cure is my favorite band of all time. I've gone through many musical phases (punk, psychobilly, jazz, metal, prog) and The Cure is the one band that I've never tired of. Glad someone started a thread!

Some recent happenings: Porl left (is going by "Pearl" now), Roger O'Donnell came back, and the band is still without a record contract.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Ħ on June 01, 2012, 05:58:56 PM
I'd heavily recommend Seventeen Seconds, which I just gushed about. 
Listening now. I dunno. The vocalist is extremely annoying. The music's pretty cool, though.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: MondayMorningLunatic on June 01, 2012, 06:14:07 PM
Seventeen Seconds is actually one of the weaker Cure albums, imo. It has some classics like A Forest, Play For Today, and M but too many weird/noisy tracks. Disintegration and Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me are probably the best starting points for The Cure, or Pornography for the pinnacle of their minimalistic Goth phase.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Jaffa on June 01, 2012, 06:58:32 PM
Disintegration.   :heart
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: TVC 15 on June 01, 2012, 08:40:55 PM
The soundtrack to my high school years along with The Smiths, New Order, and hair metal (yeah, I know).

Took my cousin to see them live a few years ago.  They performed an ultra-long set plus a triple encore because they had to cancel their summer tour.  This was a make-up date.  Simon Gallup's bass tone was something to be experienced as he performed onstage, especially when the band blasted through Fascination Street.

My first exposure to the group was a cassette version of the Staring At The Sea collection.  From there it was most definitely the Three Imaginary Boys/Boys Don't Cry record that I latched on to as the way I always wanted the band to sound.  Grinding Halt, 10:15 Saturday Night, Jumping On Someone Else's Train...all so good.  My all-time personal favorite though has got to be Head On The Door.  My favorite songs are in it:  In Between Days, Close To Me,  A Night Like This, and Six Different Ways all in one neat package.

Because of this thread, I was curious to see who's in the band right now.  Amazingly enough, I found out that one of the most underrated guitarists on earth, Reeves Gabrels is now in their lineup.  I'm curious to hear what he can contribute to the band.

One random thought that's related to The Cure:  I really hope that Fender can get with Robert Smith and release a custom Jaguar guitar, just like what the company did for Johnny Marr this year.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: MondayMorningLunatic on June 02, 2012, 01:57:00 PM
Because of this thread, I was curious to see who's in the band right now.  Amazingly enough, I found out that one of the most underrated guitarists on earth, Reeves Gabrels is now in their lineup.  I'm curious to hear what he can contribute to the band.

One random thought that's related to The Cure:  I really hope that Fender can get with Robert Smith and release a custom Jaguar guitar, just like what the company did for Johnny Marr this year.

Reeves is just filling in. It's a bummer. I was watching some recent live vids and you can't even hear his guitar. I was hoping he would add some desperately needed oomph to the band.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: crazyaga on June 02, 2012, 02:48:37 PM
I heard Disintegration... i cant relate to it for some reason.
it just doesnt click with me ... i may give it a few more listens, maybe i just wasnt in the right mood
its a good album though, and i can totally see how some people will love it
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: TVC 15 on June 02, 2012, 11:18:33 PM

Reeves is just filling in. It's a bummer. I was watching some recent live vids and you can't even hear his guitar. I was hoping he would add some desperately needed oomph to the band.

That's unfortunate if it's the case.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Ravenheart on June 03, 2012, 11:40:06 AM
The soundtrack to my high school years along with The Smiths, New Order, and hair metal (yeah, I know).

Took my cousin to see them live a few years ago.  They performed an ultra-long set plus a triple encore because they had to cancel their summer tour.  This was a make-up date.  Simon Gallup's bass tone was something to be experienced as he performed onstage, especially when the band blasted through Fascination Street.

My first exposure to the group was a cassette version of the Staring At The Sea collection.  From there it was most definitely the Three Imaginary Boys/Boys Don't Cry record that I latched on to as the way I always wanted the band to sound.  Grinding Halt, 10:15 Saturday Night, Jumping On Someone Else's Train...all so good.  My all-time personal favorite though has got to be Head On The Door.  My favorite songs are in it:  In Between Days, Close To Me,  A Night Like This, and Six Different Ways all in one neat package.

Because of this thread, I was curious to see who's in the band right now.  Amazingly enough, I found out that one of the most underrated guitarists on earth, Reeves Gabrels is now in their lineup.  I'm curious to hear what he can contribute to the band.

One random thought that's related to The Cure:  I really hope that Fender can get with Robert Smith and release a custom Jaguar guitar, just like what the company did for Johnny Marr this year.

I love both The Smiths and New Order, and The Head on the Door is my second favorite right after Disintegration.

Because of this thread, I was curious to see who's in the band right now.  Amazingly enough, I found out that one of the most underrated guitarists on earth, Reeves Gabrels is now in their lineup.  I'm curious to hear what he can contribute to the band.

One random thought that's related to The Cure:  I really hope that Fender can get with Robert Smith and release a custom Jaguar guitar, just like what the company did for Johnny Marr this year.

Reeves is just filling in. It's a bummer. I was watching some recent live vids and you can't even hear his guitar. I was hoping he would add some desperately needed oomph to the band.

That's a shame. I thought the great setlist of the Bestival live album was undermined by the rather thin and small sound of the band.

I heard Disintegration... i cant relate to it for some reason.
it just doesnt click with me ... i may give it a few more listens, maybe i just wasnt in the right mood
its a good album though, and i can totally see how some people will love it

It took several years to click with me, and now I consider it my favorite album ever. If you stick with it, you might be rewarded.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: TVC 15 on June 03, 2012, 01:50:39 PM

It took several years to click with me, and now I consider it my favorite album ever. If you stick with it, you might be rewarded.

Disintegration was such a jarring change when I first heard it back in the day.  I think everyone else, including myself, back before it was released was thinking that the next album after Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me would have more guitars and perhaps more horns.  These expectations of course were dimmed rather immensely when fuzzed out bass and synth washes were the order of the day instead.  Looking at it from an artistic point of view, it was a way for Robert and the band to keep things fresh. 
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: MondayMorningLunatic on June 03, 2012, 03:05:21 PM
Because of this thread, I was curious to see who's in the band right now.  Amazingly enough, I found out that one of the most underrated guitarists on earth, Reeves Gabrels is now in their lineup.  I'm curious to hear what he can contribute to the band.

One random thought that's related to The Cure:  I really hope that Fender can get with Robert Smith and release a custom Jaguar guitar, just like what the company did for Johnny Marr this year.

Reeves is just filling in. It's a bummer. I was watching some recent live vids and you can't even hear his guitar. I was hoping he would add some desperately needed oomph to the band.

That's a shame. I thought the great setlist of the Bestival live album was undermined by the rather thin and small sound of the band.

A part of the problem is Jason. He's a good drummer but he can't supply that cavernous drum sound that Boris, Andy, and even Lol brought to the band. He has that piccolo snare and really pounds on the hi-hat. IMO, Robert keeps selling himself short with these lineups. He needs a really good drummer and lead guitarist to complement him, Simon, and Roger.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: MasterShakezula on June 17, 2012, 11:33:12 PM
I went and got Disintegration today. 

Damn fine album.  Bit odd hearing the Cure being all glossy and not drone-y, though. 
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Zantera on November 19, 2013, 09:44:11 AM
Bump because I've been getting into this band lately, and Disintegration is phenomenal.  :heart
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: ? on November 19, 2013, 10:25:10 AM
Disintegration is awesome indeed, although Pornography has to be my favorite. I've also heard Seventeen Seconds, Faith and Bloodflowers, and I like those albums as well.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Outcrier on November 19, 2013, 12:34:53 PM
One of the first bands i loved (in a time i didn't know nothing about music)... My father bought the Trilogy DVD and the rest is history...

My favorites:

1. Disintegration
2. Pornography
3. Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me
4. The Head on the Door
5. Seventeen Seconds
6. Faith
7. Wish
8. Three Imaginary Boys

Also, Join The Dots (B-Sides), Japanese Whispers, Trilogy (audio) and the bonus disc from Greatest Hits (With the acoustic versions) are great as well.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: CharlieDominietzsche on November 21, 2013, 02:47:29 PM
Join The Dots is amazing. My respect for the band increased so much after hearing that. Why throw away so many great songs I wonder?
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: krieger on November 22, 2013, 08:05:31 AM
I quite like The Cure, altough I prefer bands like Bauhaus or Echo & the Bunnymen. Or The Sound. Or Comsat Angels. Or...

I really think the sequence Seventeen Seconds - Faith - Pornography are the best thing they have ever done. Disintegration is also very, very good. Can't stand Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me (well, there's Just Like Heaven, anyway), the self-titled album is quite weak, the last one is dreadful...

I saw them once, but it was a line-up without keyboards and the show was so-so.

It's sad Mr. Smith is not recording anything new - or planning to do. Since 1992 they have made 5 albums, and they are quite weak. Ok, there's some good songs in Wish, Wild Mood Swings and Bloodflowers, but comparing them to Pornography, Head on the Door or Disintegration is like comparing a Ferrari with a bicicle.

In short, a band with great musician, but the style overcame everything.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Outcrier on November 22, 2013, 01:00:25 PM
Or The Church?
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Outcrier on November 22, 2013, 01:02:22 PM
Can't stand Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me (well, there's Just Like Heaven, anyway)

One of their best songs  :-*
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Outcrier on November 24, 2013, 01:33:45 AM
Ah, makes sense. I can see a bible belt being really anal about a guy in mascara and lipstick  :lol

I think part of the reason I was so attracted to them at an early age was because the look wasn't socially unacceptable in general. As I grew older I began to appreciate their music more and more. I'm a huge fan of the 80s goth scene--The Cure, Depeche Mode, Sisters of Mercy, New Order, Bauhaus, etc. I'm the only person my age I know who is  :P

All amazing music  :tup
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: krieger on November 26, 2013, 09:44:01 AM
Or The Church?

 :hefdaddy

I haven't mentioned, because The Church is way above anything else in this world. Few bands deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as them.  :hefdaddy
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Zantera on November 30, 2013, 06:38:12 AM
Picked up Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me on CD today, and ordered Disintegration yesterday.  :hat
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Orbert on November 30, 2013, 09:13:12 AM
I had some students who were into The Cure back in the 90's, and I ended up borrowing a bunch of their CDs.  The studio work was okay, but I was really blown away by the live stuff.  "show" and "sideshow" (I remember all the writing was in lower case letters) together fit nicely onto a C-90 cassette, which I still have.

Apparently the live stuff is not well regarded by actual Cure fans.  It figures.  It was what grabbed me the most.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: jammindude on November 30, 2013, 11:18:51 AM
I haven't heard ALL of The Cure's stuff.   But I've heard most of the major ones.

Seventeen Seconds
Pornography
The Head on the Door
Disintegration
Wish
Bloodflowers

Besides that I also own the "Staring at the Sea" singles collection....which is one of my favorites.

The only *really big* album I've never heard is KMKMKM....although I am especially curious about Faith and The Top.

My favorites are absolutely no contest.   Disintegration, Pornography and Bloodflowers....in that order.   And "Watching You Fall" is my all time favorite Cure song bar none.

Can't believe I don't own Trilogy yet...
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: NotePad on February 22, 2014, 01:30:43 AM
Pornography was an album i don't like.

Disintegration i loved. Love the dark, spaced-out, moodiness of it. Are any of their other albums like this?
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: jammindude on February 22, 2014, 01:34:26 AM
Pornography was an album i don't like.

Disintegration i loved. Love the dark, spaced-out, moodiness of it. Are any of their other albums like this?

This baffles me....

Pornography, Disintegration and Bloodflowers are considered to be a "trilogy" that are similar in feel and nature.   Those are my personal three favorite albums.

Liking Disintegration and not liking Pornography does not compute with me.   I would suggest "Staring at the Sea: The Singles"....or maybe "The Head on the Door"
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Zantera on February 22, 2014, 02:23:40 AM
Disintegration and Pornography are easily their best albums imo. After that I would put Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me and Head on the Door. Faith, Seventeen Seconds, Wish and Bloodflowers are all pretty good as well. Debut album is not AS good, but I still think it's a pretty great and solid album, it's a lot of fun. Quality-wise it may not be one of their best, but it's a fun listening experience with some great songs. So far I haven't heard The Top, Wild Mood Swings or the latest two albums, but I'm gonna get through those as well.

Tentative album-ranking for me right now:

Disintegration
Pornography
Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me
The Head on the Door
Wish
Faith
Seventeen Seconds
Bloodflowers
Three Imaginary Boys
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: ? on February 22, 2014, 02:28:47 AM
Disintegration and Pornography are easily their best albums imo.
:iagree:
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Konrad on February 22, 2014, 08:05:57 AM
I have their 'Triology' DVD.
Liked some songs, disliked others... It really depends on your mood.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: NotePad on February 22, 2014, 01:13:45 PM
Ok well it's been awhile, I should give Pornography another listen. Maybe I'm thinking of the wrong album. I just remember that what I heard sounded a lot different from Disintegration and left me disappointed.

Iv always considered A Perfect Circle's '13th Step' to be like a more modern and metal version of Disintegration.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: jammindude on February 22, 2014, 01:21:39 PM
Ok well it's been awhile, I should give Pornography another listen. Maybe I'm thinking of the wrong album. I just remember that what I heard sounded a lot different from Disintegration and left me disappointed.

Iv always considered A Perfect Circle's '13th Step' to be like a more modern and metal version of Disintegration.

To be fair...Pornography is a bit more "aggressive" than Disintegration.   The "trilogy" albums essentially all revolve around the ideas of depression and contemplating the meaninglessness of existence.   I suppose the difference would be that Pornography sounds a bit more like someone who is actually on the verge of suicide, whereas Disintegration is more the picture of someone who can't even get motivated enough to go through with it.    ....if that makes any sense.  :-\
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: rickhawk80 on February 22, 2014, 03:19:01 PM
I've been a fan of them since the beginning although not as hardcore about them for the last decade or more.  When I pull one of their CDs off the shelf for a spin these days, the ones I grab most often are "Boys Don't Cry" or "Head On The Door."  Haven't seen them live since the "Kiss Me Kiss Me" tour but that was a fantastic show.  :metal
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Zantera on May 07, 2015, 09:17:27 AM
Been listening a lot to Faith lately. While I've always held Disintegration and Pornography highest, I think I've grown to love Faith just as much. Head on the Door and Kiss Me Kiss Me would roundout my top5, boy oh boy is their discography awesome. Sure, they have a few misses, but so many hitters.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: krieger on May 08, 2015, 09:35:28 AM
Disintegration and Pornography are easily their best albums imo.

True. After that, I like Seventeen Seconds and Faith. Those two albums + Pornography should be listened in sequence, they are capable of great emotional heights.

They give me the impression of a linear narrative:

Seventeen Seconds - someone is dying ("the final sound", the album ends with "the light begins to fade/ and everything is quiet now")
Faith - the funeral (The Holy Hour, The Funeral Party, "I went away alone/ with nothing left but faith")
Pornography - the rage after ("it doesn't matter if we all die...")

Maybe it's just my imagination. But they give these feelings. Faith is the ultimate soundtrack for a funeral.

I can't enjoy Bloodflowers at all. Every song seem to be a variation of Out of this World. Not much rhythm variation, it's seems the chords and chord progressions are basically the same during the whole album. And the lyrics are not that impressive. But it seems many fans like the album.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: jammindude on May 08, 2015, 09:55:06 AM
Watching Me Fall is possibly my all time favorite Cure song.   At least top 3, anyway.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Setlist Scotty on May 08, 2015, 10:54:29 AM
Not a super huge Cure fan, but I do enjoy some of their stuff - particularly from Disintegration thru Blood Flowers. Never really got into the s/t album aside from the song Anniversary, nor 4:13 Dream. And I've never dug into any of their stuff before Disintegration with the exception of the songs on their Greatest Hits and the songs that are on Mixed Up. That said, I do love A Forest, tho I prefer the version on Mixed Up over the original.

I can't enjoy Bloodflowers at all.
Really? I love that album! I think it's the one album of their's that I can listen to from start to end without skipping any tracks. Wish I would've gotten to see them on the Bloodflowers tour, altho I'm happy I at least got to see them once on the Wild Mood Swings tour.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: jammindude on May 08, 2015, 10:57:12 AM
Scotty...I would especially recommend Staring at the Sea: The Singles.  Sortof a best of the earlier material.   That's what got me into early Cure.  Really great stuff.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Zantera on May 08, 2015, 12:04:16 PM
While I really like Wish, and do like the debut as well as Bloodflowers, I would say that the run from Seventeen Seconds to Disintegration is just incredible, and possibly the best stretch of albums any band has had.

Seventeen Seconds
Faith
Pornography
The Top
The Head on the Door
Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me
Disintegration

The Top is the oddball, but I really like it for it's uniqueness. The first three in that bunch are the amazing post-punk albums, the latter three are the amazing keyboard-driven albums, and are also awesome.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Outcrier on May 08, 2015, 02:53:35 PM
And there is the debut, Wish and Bloodflowers which are all solid albums too.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: SystematicThought on May 12, 2015, 12:02:46 AM
Just finished off their discography and have really grown to like their stuff. A lot.

Anyone like the song Halo? Never officially on a CD, but it's on their Join the Dots compilation. It was a b-side on Friday I'm In Love. Excellent tune, perhaps better than FIIL
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Outcrier on May 12, 2015, 06:10:28 PM
I do. In fact, they have many great B-Sides.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: SystematicThought on May 12, 2015, 11:01:14 PM
That's what I've come to find. Join the Dots has a lot of great stuff on it.

A girl I work with, at her sister's wedding, their first dance was to Halo. When I first heard it I thought to myself, "That's an excellent song for a wedding."
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: SystematicThought on October 08, 2015, 10:05:06 PM
The Cure are coming back to North America. Only three dates have been announced thus far, more to come in January. 25 dates all together. Really hoping they come back to Minnesota, but they haven't been here since the Wild Mood Swings tour.

https://www.altpress.com/news/entry/the_cure_announce_first_u.s._tour_in_eight_years (https://www.altpress.com/news/entry/the_cure_announce_first_u.s._tour_in_eight_years)
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: senecadawg2 on November 17, 2015, 08:36:38 AM
The full NA tour has been announced... I'm trying to decide whether or not it's worth that would be a total 24 hours driving, plus the cost of the ticket. Iouldn't consider that kind of commitment for most bands and most tours, but something tells me this might be my first and only real chance to see The Cure in concert. Not for certain of course, but given how they don't tour very frequently anymore...

Have any of you DTF Cure fans seen them live before? Recently?
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Mindflux on November 17, 2015, 09:57:17 AM
The full NA tour has been announced... I'm trying to decide whether or not it's worth that would be a total 24 hours driving, plus the cost of the ticket. Iouldn't consider that kind of commitment for most bands and most tours, but something tells me this might be my first and only real chance to see The Cure in concert. Not for certain of course, but given how they don't tour very frequently anymore...

Have any of you DTF Cure fans seen them live before? Recently?

I've seen them twice... 1995 ish (Wild Mood Swings) and 2000 ish (Bloodflowers). I bought tickets immediately for the Austin show, I figured "how many tours do they have left in 'em".. plus tickets weren't as bad even at the top tier.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: senecadawg2 on November 17, 2015, 10:00:02 AM
I know it's been 15 years since, and may not match their current shows, but how would you rate those shows?
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Mindflux on November 17, 2015, 10:01:58 AM
I know it's been 15 years since, and may not match their current shows, but how would you rate those shows?

Well I was much more "into" The Cure around Wild Mood Swings, and I felt it was a tremendous show.  By the time bloodflowers came around I wasn't as excited to see them, and the album never grabbed me really. It was still a very good show full of old and new tunes.  I would personally not pass up an opportunity to see them at least once.

I really hope they are in the best form they can be given their age this time around.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: SystematicThought on November 17, 2015, 12:11:16 PM
Once again, no Minnesota...  :'(
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: senecadawg2 on November 18, 2015, 02:10:39 PM
I know it's been 15 years since, and may not match their current shows, but how would you rate those shows?

Well I was much more "into" The Cure around Wild Mood Swings, and I felt it was a tremendous show.  By the time bloodflowers came around I wasn't as excited to see them, and the album never grabbed me really. It was still a very good show full of old and new tunes.  I would personally not pass up an opportunity to see them at least once.

I really hope they are in the best form they can be given their age this time around.

I tried to buy tickets this morning through the presale but there was an issue with my computer and by the time I got in there weren't any excellent seats left. I told myself I wouldn't make the trip (realllly long drive, for me) unless I was able to get the best seats possible. I'll have to try again when the tickets go on sale for the general public and hopefully have better luck then.

Anyways, I've been listening to Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me a lot recently.

It's in competition for my favorite album along with Disintegration (hardly controversial choices, I know). Feel like KMKMKM has the more peaks, but also perhaps a bit more filler than Disintegration.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: SystematicThought on November 18, 2015, 02:19:11 PM
Wish still remains my personal favorite.

You've got Open and then High and later on you have Doing The Unstuck, Friday, I'm in Love, Trust, A Letter to Elise. A just think that album flows nicely. Wish would have been way better had they kept Halo

Then Disintegration comes second because you really can't go wrong with any track on that album, but I think their rhythm section really shines on that album.

Doing the Unstuck seems to be overlooked a bit, the remix on the Join The Dots album is better than the studio version.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Zantera on November 18, 2015, 03:16:58 PM
The Cure has a few albums I don't particularly care for (2 or 3) but the rest of their discography is great to amazing. I'd say they have at least 5 or 6 amazing albums, which is really great.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: ? on November 28, 2015, 01:52:01 AM
The Cure announced a European tour for next fall and it includes a Helsinki date (their first Finnish show since 1996), but I may be in Canada doing my exchange at that point. If they swapped the Euro and NA dates, I might be able to see them on both continents. :P
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Zantera on November 28, 2015, 02:05:16 AM
The Cure announced a European tour for next fall and it includes a Helsinki date (their first Finnish show since 1996), but I may be in Canada doing my exchange at that point. If they swapped the Euro and NA dates, I might be able to see them on both continents. :P

They're playing in my city as well, I was blown away when I heard it. Tickets drop on Monday and I gotta get me two.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Kotowboy on November 28, 2015, 05:11:26 PM
The Cure formed in 1976 - which is longer than i've been alive :lol


And i'm 37.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Deathless on November 28, 2015, 07:06:40 PM
I didn't realize they were still so big. Doing a couple arena dates here in the U.S. and in Europe as well? Good for them.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Kotowboy on November 29, 2015, 08:59:04 AM
The Cure formed in 1976 - which is longer than i've been alive :lol


And i'm 37.

Mind you that's nothing compared to The Rolling Stones who have been a BAND for over 50 years.  :eek :eek

U2 also formed in 1976 and they've been the same line up since Boy.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: SebastianPratesi on February 24, 2016, 11:59:17 AM
Mind you that's nothing compared to The Rolling Stones who have been a BAND for over 50 years.  :eek :eek

U2 also formed in 1976 and they've been the same line up since Boy.

There's this band from Buenos Aires that I like a lot called Les Luthiers, who have a long career too: they formed in 1967, and since then they haven't taken a year off from playing their music. They were already playing when my mother was a baby! Les Luthiers is actually a group of musicians/actors, so their shows are full of humorous sketches with a lot of music.

Anyway, back on topic: I like The Cure a lot. I discovered them in 2004 - MTV was promoting the self-titled album, but another TV channel showed older videos from the '80s/'90s, so I got to listen to the band's music in its various incarnations. In October I bought Greatest Hits, and in Christmas Disintegration. I've never understood the love for that album - I love the first two songs, but other than that it sounds weak to me (maybe it's the CD mix or something).

Later on, I bought The Head..., Kiss Me... and Wish (all on the same day). This last one I absolutely adore. Only 2 out of the 12 songs I skip - the rest is amazing to me: such beautiful music, which trigger so many emotions! I also like 4:13 Dream a lot - some of the heavy tracks I don't enjoy, but there are various gems in there.

These are my 10 favourite Cure songs:

1 This. Here & Now. With You (4:13 Dream)
2 The 13th (Wild Mood Swings)
3 Bloodflowers (Bloodflowers)
4 Lost (The Cure)
5 A Letter To Elise (Wish)
6 Plainsong (Disintegration)
7 Doing The Unstuck (Wish)
8 Freakshow (4:13 Dream)
9 Cut Here (Greatest Hits)
10 The Perfect Girl (Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me)
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Stadler on February 25, 2016, 06:57:40 AM
I won't sugarcoat it:  for a kid growing up in the mid- to late-80's loving Sabbath, Kiss, Zeppelin, Purple, Priest, Scorpions, and basically anything that had the "NWOBHM" tag (Maiden, Leppard), The Cure were not my thing, to say the least.  The closest I came was a closet admiration for REM. 

Then I went and saw Page and Plant live in 1995, and Porl Thompson was the second guitar player, and two things happened:  one, the band played an absolutely mesmerizing "The Song Remains The Same" (and I don't exagerate; after the song, I felt like I had blacked out and I looked at my friend and said "What the hell was that??" and he felt it too.  We were literally transported by the music, I shit you not.), and two, P&P played this weird song I had never heard of (turned out it was "Lullaby"). 

I did a little investigation and found out who it was, and bought the album (Disintegration).

Then I got stuck (literally - I bought them for a friend and he bailed; well, his girl bailed and then so did he) with tickets to see The Cure in Hartford in the fall of '96 and figured, what the hell.

I was BLOWN AWAY.  They were SO good live.  Almost three hours, and although I only recognized about three songs, it was captivating.  Robert Smith wore a Hartford Whalers jersey all show and while that is usually a lame cliché, it was cool and they played so well.  With the music and the lights and the atmosphere... even though I don't care for some of their earlier stuff, and I'm only familiar with maybe 20 or 25% of their catalogue, I do consider myself a big fan. 
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: SystematicThought on March 20, 2016, 07:32:24 PM
They announced their first show in Minnesota in 20 years and it sold out in a matter of minutes. The band announced that they were going to push the stage back further to accommodate for more seating. That's crazy to think about. Regardless, I got my tickets and am pumped to see them in June!
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: SebastianPratesi on March 20, 2016, 09:22:53 PM
They announced their first show in Minnesota in 20 years and it sold out in a matter of minutes. The band announced that they were going to push the stage back further to accommodate for more seating. That's crazy to think about. Regardless, I got my tickets and am pumped to see them in June!
Yeah, I think it's sort of surreal. When I read that a few days ago, I had a similar reaction to the one I had when I followed the live tweets of their show in 2013 in Mexico for Robert's birthday. The band just kept playing, and they ended up playing 50 songs over 4 hours. It was like - "Holy shit, how larger can a show get?". Well, the same for Minesotta, right?

Good for you that you get to see them! I missed my chance when they came to Argentina in 2013. I wasn't living in Buenos Aires and didn't have enough money to spend on travel/tickets. The Rolling Stones are still touring around these places, so I guess there is still hope of another visit? (Probably not...)
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: SystematicThought on March 20, 2016, 10:04:33 PM
Man, I wish they did that show they did in Mexico. I even looked up to see if any band members had a birthday before the show and Simon and Reeves have birthdays the week before the show.. So close!

But yeah, the arena they are playing in already holds about 15,000 for a concert, and with the additional seats, should be closer to 17,000 or so. It's amazing to me that they still are selling out the arenas that they do, but the fanbase is dedicated. And when you haven't played in a state since 1996, people are probably very excited to see you again.

And I wouldn't count the Stones out yet. I saw them last June and I don't think they're stopping anytime soon
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: SebastianPratesi on March 21, 2016, 12:23:39 AM
And I wouldn't count the Stones out yet. I saw them last June and I don't think they're stopping anytime soon
Oh, sure. In fact, they played 3 sold out shows in Bs. As. last month. What I meant is that, if The Stones continue touring after more than 50 years, there's the chance that The Cure will too (and therefore they'll come back somewhere in the not too distant future).

I also agree with your post about how great an album Wish is. The whole sequence of songs from "Doing The Unstuck" to "Trust" is pure gold. The only song I don't like on the album is "Wendy Time" - quite possibly my least favourite Cure song.

Wish was an album I was obsessed about wanting to discover when I was 15, because I knew it featured "Friday I'm In Love", and I loved that song since the first time I listened to it. For some time I assumed the whole album would be like that, so I was amazed to find out I was wrong a few years later! 'There are heavy tracks too!'.

Wish in particular has always been an album I feel like listening to when I'm falling in love with a girl, or when I'm feeling heartbroken. The same with some songs on Bloodflowers, too. In fact, in 2012 I e-mailed Roger O'Donnell and told him exactly that (and a few other things - such as 'Please come to Argentina! It's safe now! :P). He actually answered. One of the coolest things ever!
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Zantera on March 21, 2016, 03:12:32 AM
Wendy Time is one of my favorites on Wish actually. So darn catchy. I probably rank End higher, but Wendy Time would probably be my second favorite from it.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: NotePad on April 19, 2016, 10:16:55 AM
Does anyone else feel that A Perfect Circles album Thirteenth Step is like the modem Disintegration?
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: SystematicThought on May 10, 2016, 10:29:08 PM
Setlist for the first show of the North American Tour. No Lullaby, Fascination, Hot Hot Hot, Friday. But I'm really excited to see this setlist. Apparently the last song is really emotional

Open
alt.end
All I Want
Push
In Between Days
From the Edge of the Deep Green Sea
(Unknown) (new song)
Sleep When I'm Dead
A Letter to Elise
High
The Walk
Lovesong
Just Like Heaven
Trust
Want
The Hanging Garden
One Hundred Years
End
Encore 1:
At Night
M
Play for Today
A Forest
Encore 2:
Dressing Up
Piggy in the Mirror
Shake Dog Shake
Give Me It
Encore 3:
Burn
Encore 4:
It Can Never Be The Same (new song) Apparently Robert Smith teared up during this song.
Here it is for those interested in hearing new Cure material
https://soundcloud.com/thecuremexico/the-cure-new-song-2-new-orleans-10052016 (https://soundcloud.com/thecuremexico/the-cure-new-song-2-new-orleans-10052016)

Looking forward to the Minnesota show now
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: SebastianPratesi on May 11, 2016, 06:45:50 AM
Setlist for the first show of the North American Tour. No Lullaby, Fascination, Hot Hot Hot, Friday. But I'm really excited to see this setlist. Apparently the last song is really emotional
Hey man, the '(Unknown)' new song in the set-list is apparently called "Step Into The Light". The reports/pictures I saw in craigjparker.blogspot.com (https://craigjparker.blogspot.com) about yesterday's show seem to confirm that.

I'm surprised they usually play "Sleep When I'm Dead" from the last album. I've never liked that song. To me, "This. Here & Now. With You" is a much nicer song. They did play it some years ago, so I always thought they would keep it.

Enjoy your show! It seems like they'll keep playing a lot of stuff from Wish, so I assume you'll like that :)
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Mindflux on May 11, 2016, 07:05:25 AM
Austin TX Friday! YEAHHHHHH
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: SystematicThought on May 11, 2016, 10:30:50 AM
Hey man, the '(Unknown)' new song in the set-list is apparently called "Step Into The Light". The reports/pictures I saw in craigjparker.blogspot.com (https://craigjparker.blogspot.com) about yesterday's show seem to confirm that.

I'm surprised they usually play "Sleep When I'm Dead" from the last album. I've never liked that song. To me, "This. Here & Now. With You" is a much nicer song. They did play it some years ago, so I always thought they would keep it.

Enjoy your show! It seems like they'll keep playing a lot of stuff from Wish, so I assume you'll like that :)
I prefer Underneath The Stars from the last album. It's a personal one to me, so maybe it's not a fan favorite. But yeah, when I saw that they played half of Wish, I was really happy. Still wish they would play Friday though, I just love that song. They may add it though, Craig said that they usually play with the setlist a bit. But I'm still very excited to see The Cure
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: SebastianPratesi on May 14, 2016, 06:17:50 AM
Hey man, the '(Unknown)' new song in the set-list is apparently called "Step Into The Light". The reports/pictures I saw in craigjparker.blogspot.com (https://craigjparker.blogspot.com) about yesterday's show seem to confirm that.

I'm surprised they usually play "Sleep When I'm Dead" from the last album. I've never liked that song. To me, "This. Here & Now. With You" is a much nicer song. They did play it some years ago, so I always thought they would keep it.

Enjoy your show! It seems like they'll keep playing a lot of stuff from Wish, so I assume you'll like that :)
I prefer Underneath The Stars from the last album. It's a personal one to me, so maybe it's not a fan favorite. But yeah, when I saw that they played half of Wish, I was really happy. Still wish they would play Friday though, I just love that song. They may add it though, Craig said that they usually play with the setlist a bit. But I'm still very excited to see The Cure

Well, on the 2nd show a few days ago, they played "Doing The Unstuck". And yesterday they finally added "Friday I'm In Love", as well as "This Twilight Garden" (which I understand is a b-side from Wish). So yeah, they are indeed playing a lot with the setlist (yesterday's show, they also played 2 songs from Bloodflowers).

Seems to me that on each show they are paying some sort of tribute to a specific album:

1st show: Wish - they opened and ended the main set-list, and all in all played half of it.
2nd show: Disintegration - they opened and ended the main set-list, and all in all played most of it (10 songs).
3rd show: Bloodflowers - they opened and eneded the main set-list.

Obviously, they'll have to repeat albums at some point on the tour, but it looks to me that this will be something special for fans at each show. So, hopefully you'll get Wish at your show.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: ? on May 14, 2016, 07:42:04 AM
Wow, I'll have to get more familiar with the band's discography if I want to recognize the songs at the Helsinki show in October! :lol I'm only familiar with 6 Cure albums (the trilogy, Seventeen Seconds, Faith and The Head on the Door).
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: SystematicThought on May 14, 2016, 12:10:14 PM
I've loved the last two shows sets miles better than the first. The one last night, they played even more songs too.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: SebastianPratesi on May 14, 2016, 04:35:24 PM
I've loved the last two shows sets miles better than the first. The one last night, they played even more songs too.
Yeah, but didn't they play like only 1 or 2 Wish songs? Or maybe the last couple of shows featured many of your favourite songs?
One of my Top 3 songs is "Bloodflowers", so yeah, I agree - yesterday's show must have been really cool.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: senecadawg2 on May 14, 2016, 04:42:39 PM
Yeah I'd really like a Bloodflowers-heavy set, myself. The only two albums I definitely like more are Disintegration and Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Zantera on May 14, 2016, 04:48:16 PM
They have so many good albums, I'll be happy either way I think. BUT, since Disintegration is nr1 that would be dope. I like Bloodflowers but I wouldn't place it that high.

Obligatory album rankings time:

1. Disintegration
2. Pornography
3. Faith
4. Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me
5. The Head on the Door
6. Seventeen Seconds
7. Wish
8. The Top
9. Bloodflowers
10. Three Imaginary Boys
11. The Cure
12. 4:13 Dream
13. Wild Mood Swings

But I would say the top6 are amazing and 7-10 are really great too. It's really only the bottom 3 I don't care for that much. But the top6/7, especially top5 are all amazing.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: SystematicThought on May 14, 2016, 08:26:54 PM
Yeah, but didn't they play like only 1 or 2 Wish songs? Or maybe the last couple of shows featured many of your favourite songs?
One of my Top 3 songs is "Bloodflowers", so yeah, I agree - yesterday's show must have been really cool.
Yeah, that is true. But I also love songs like A Night Like This, Lullaby, Pictures of You, and Fascination Street and would love to see those. I think because they haven't played in Minnesota in 20 years, they're more likely to play songs like that because they've been gone so long. But you're right, they did play half of Wish which would be absolutely amazing. If they could do that and play the songs I mentioned, we'd be set.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: SebastianPratesi on May 14, 2016, 09:31:52 PM
Yeah, that is true. But I also love songs like A Night Like This, Lullaby, Pictures of You, and Fascination Street and would love to see those. I think because they haven't played in Minnesota in 20 years, they're more likely to play songs like that because they've been gone so long. But you're right, they did play half of Wish which would be absolutely amazing. If they could do that and play the songs I mentioned, we'd be set.
That thing you said made me remember that they first played in Argentina in 1987, and then a 2nd time 26 years later, in 2013.
When they came in March 1987, they only had 6 albums out (Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me hadn't been released yet). That's insane! It's like, The 2013 Cure was a completely different band/set-list than The 1987 Cure.

This (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ljd6DwNJjFw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ljd6DwNJjFw)) is a short video recorded while the guys and chic from Utopians (the opening band for the 2013 show in River Plate) were visited backstage by Robert, who gave them a bottle of ¿champagne? as a present. Funny stuff :)
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: SystematicThought on May 15, 2016, 01:26:11 AM
I can't tell who was more nervous, the warm up band or Robert  :lol
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: SebastianPratesi on May 15, 2016, 06:33:07 PM
I can't tell who was more nervous, the warm up band or Robert  :lol
Ha!
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: SystematicThought on May 15, 2016, 10:11:47 PM
So tonight, they played all but 3 songs from Disintegration. And the shows since New Orleans all have longer sets too.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: NotePad on June 21, 2016, 10:04:36 AM
So I'm not that knowledgeable about The Cure I want to get more into them. The one album I know and really like is Disintegration. I'm wondering what albums I should listen to next.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Zantera on June 21, 2016, 11:10:57 AM
So I'm not that knowledgeable about The Cure I want to get more into them. The one album I know and really like is Disintegration. I'm wondering what albums I should listen to next.

I'd say Pornography is my second favorite. As dark as Disintegration but more post-punk and less synth-heavy. Or you could go for Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me, which is pretty synth-heavy. Not as dark as Disintegration, but really good anyways.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 21, 2016, 12:26:39 PM
I'd say Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me, but Zantera isn't wrong about Pornography either.

Going to see them on Thursday!
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: SystematicThought on June 21, 2016, 02:30:19 PM
I forgot to post about seeing them. It was one of the best shows that I have ever been to. They put on one hell of a show and they sound so good. I got the Wish set, as opposed to the Bloodflowers or Disintegration set. What that means, is what songs open and close the main set. So at my show, Open and End were the bookends to the main set.

Open
alt.end
A Night Like This
The Walk
Push
In Between Days
Just Like Heaven
The Snakepit
Pictures of You
The Perfect Girl
High
The End of the World
Lovesong
Dressing Up
Lullaby
Fascination Street
From the Edge of the Deep Green Sea
One Hundred Years
End
Encore:
It Can Never Be the Same
Want
Shake Dog Shake
Encore 2:
If Only Tonight We Could Sleep
Charlotte Sometimes
A Forest
Encore 3:
Never Enough
Burn
Wrong Number
Encore 4:
Hot Hot Hot!!!
The Caterpillar
Let's Go to Bed
Close to Me
Why Can't I Be You?
Boys Don't Cry

It was just so much fun to see them and surreal, since they haven't been to Minnesota in 20 years and I've been a fan for 7 of those years. So to all of a sudden be in the same room as them and to hear these songs, it was just so much fun. And Simon's bass sounds so great live, Fascination Street, the seats were just vibrating. And I also became reacquainted with songs that I had kinda forgotten about, like Push and In Between Days. The former, when they started playing, the guy next to me just went crazy. One of the other things that I found kinda funny is that when they main set ends and they start the encores, there is still about an hour and a half of the show left. At the end of the show, Robert said "See you again!" Hopefully that doesn't mean 20 years again...

I wasn't crazy about the Twilight Sad like other people have been. I just didn't like it as much, the guitar feedback just started getting old after awhile.

(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13346804_10206365856968421_9013533710567933419_n.jpg?oh=adddec5896866532ecb12ecd8ce05627&oe=57D9025D)
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: SebastianPratesi on June 23, 2016, 01:16:42 AM
I forgot to post about seeing them. It was one of the best shows that I have ever been to. They put on one hell of a show and they sound so good. I got the Wish set, as opposed to the Bloodflowers or Disintegration set. What that means, is what songs open and close the main set. So at my show, Open and End were the bookends to the main set.
You must have liked that, obviously ;)

What do the new songs sound like? I mean, if you had to compare them to other Cure songs. Did you like any of them in particular?
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: NotePad on June 23, 2016, 10:44:23 AM
What about Bloodflowers? I've heard it's The final part in a trilogy started by Disintegration.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Zantera on June 23, 2016, 11:00:22 AM
Bloodflowers is great, but whereas Disintegration and Pornography are both 10/10, Bloodflowers is more like 7.5/10. Probably their last great album though.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: SystematicThought on June 23, 2016, 06:17:44 PM
What do the new songs sound like? I mean, if you had to compare them to other Cure songs. Did you like any of them in particular?
More in the vein of Disintegration or Bloodflowers. It was sad, I think it's about his mom's death. The bass riff is killer though!
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 23, 2016, 11:17:19 PM
I'll second that. The new song is fantastic--definitely one of the highlights from the show I just got back from.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: SebastianPratesi on June 24, 2016, 08:40:23 AM
More in the vein of Disintegration or Bloodflowers. It was sad, I think it's about his mom's death. The bass riff is killer though!
Thanks. Great to hear about a killer bass riff! Hopefully it will get released soon.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: SystematicThought on June 27, 2016, 10:48:32 PM
What did you think of The Twilight Sad, Seneca?
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 28, 2016, 08:11:04 AM
There was a stupid amount of roadwork which I hadn't anticipated and I ended up getting there just before The Twilight Sad was wrapping things up. What I heard seemed alright, but not exactly my cup of tea
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: SystematicThought on February 05, 2017, 04:35:18 PM
How do you guys interpret the lyrics to From The Edge of the Deep Green Sea?

I always thought it was about him and his wife or a relationship where the guy is really in love and would do anything for her. But someone pointed out to me that it more sounds like a negative relationship where he gets hurt
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Orbert on February 05, 2017, 09:31:15 PM
I've never listened to the lyrics that closely, but it's one of my favorite Cure songs.  That song rocks ass.
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Zantera on October 14, 2022, 04:36:29 AM
Saw them live again yesterday - second time. (First time was in 2016)

Fantastic show and might even have been better than last time I saw them. Robert's voice sounds as good as ever and didn't show any signs of aging to me at least. The biggest positive surprise for me were the new songs. I love The Cure but their output after Wish hasn't been great for me. Wild Mood Swings is probably their worst (though it has a few great songs), Bloodflowers is pretty good but then the self-titled and 4:13 Dream are just kinda 'there' for me. Not awful albums but the kind of late career albums you mostly ignore in favor of the earlier stuff. But these new songs they played showed a lot of promise to me and were some of my favorite moments of the show. Alone and Endsong had a similar Disintegration vibe, both being around 7-9 minutes with a long epic intro and then some great lyrics and overall a nice mood. And Nothing is Forever felt more like a Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me song but was also really nice.

Got a few nice surprises like The Figurehead (first time they played it since 2008 I believe) and The Drowning Man (first time played in Europe since 2011) but overall a nice mixed setlist that covered a lot of ground. The full setlist: https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/the-cure/2022/scandinavium-gothenburg-sweden-43b113fb.html

Only mild complaint I have is that I have now seen them twice and I have not gotten Plainsong. It's one of their more frequently performed songs and I love it, but two times and nope! Maybe third time's the charm.  :lol
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: DTA on October 14, 2022, 09:32:46 PM
27 songs, new stuff, rarities, popular songs...why can't every band be this interesting when it comes to creating setlists?
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: Zantera on October 15, 2022, 12:56:46 AM
27 songs, new stuff, rarities, popular songs...why can't every band be this interesting when it comes to creating setlists?

Indeed! And also having a few slots that rotate every night as well as moving the songs around within the setlist itself. Some nights you get songs XYZ as the first encore, next night one or two of them might be earlier in the set. Keeps things interesting. :)
Title: Re: The Cure
Post by: jammindude on March 10, 2023, 03:46:43 PM
MEGA BUMP!!!

The Cure is touring North America for the first time since 2019, their first Pacific Northwest shows in at least 5 or 6 years, and since that one was a 3 day festival with 50-odd bands I didn’t care about seeing, their first proper headliner in my area since god knows when.

They are doing something kind of interesting in an attempt to get around the second level ticket sellers. You can register to get into a lottery to get first crack at tickets. I entered the lottery, but I don’t know if I’ll actually get tickets or not. They are supposed to text me next Tuesday. But I definitely want to go to the Seattle show on June 1st.

https://pitchfork.com/news/the-cure-announce-2023-north-american-tour/amp/
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Post by: Kram on March 10, 2023, 05:35:34 PM
Great Bump LOL!  The San Diego show is a Saturday so I'm probably in.