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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Nick on June 16, 2011, 10:03:08 PM
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Last Season: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=14331.0
Bruins are the champs and the prep for the draft is in full swing. Let us rejoice in the preparation of another glorious season!
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Ok.
So here in Ottawa we're pretty excited. Lots of picks...LOTS. I think Bryan Murray is looking to flip most of his second rounders, and his second 1st rounder to move up in the draft. The Ottawa Senators organization has a HUGE hardon for Gabriel Landeskog, but it's unlikely he'll be there by the time we pick.
New Jersey will likely get him.
I found a great mock draft page yesterday complete with player profiles. I'll try and find it and post.
https://www.mynhldraft.com/NHL-Mock-Draft
**edit there it is**
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oh you sneaky bastard, the thread etiquette was wait till draft day. i'll take it though, new jersey devils; your 2012 stanley cup champions! :metal
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Nah man it's going to be Ottawa :metal
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The champs and we still have the #9 pick. Thanks Toronto.
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It'll be interesting to see what the Bruins do with Kaberle.
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I don't think they resign him. Unless he takes a pay cut. He's not worth 4 million and there was a lot of grumbling on his lack of physicality as well as his puck decisions when pressured.
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Kaberle is interesting.
somewhere to someone...he has value.
But not in Boston.
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i think the rags should sign kaberle long term for 6M a year, that kid is GOOD!
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i think the rags should sign kaberle long term for 6M a year, that kid is GOOD!
You are going to be shocked at how bad defensively he is. We for about 3 years were trying to get him but we as a fan base were all shocked to see him play tentatively as a defensmen as well as not taking the puck up as a moving D-man. I was shocked to not see him do that. Add to it he never shoots. Not a good fit for a team that loves to generate shots from the point.
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oh i'm hoping he's terrible ;)
on related news, the rags can't buy out captain drury to save salary cap space since he has a knee injury. muahahahha, i love it. enjoy the dead weight boys!
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Draft coming soon! WOOOOOOHOOO
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Don't mind my double post... its a day later!
Since the old thread is locked, I guess I have to see in this one. Anyone in Boston make it down to the parade today? Got to watch it on the NHL network. Looked like a great time! I didn't realize Boston has had 7 major champs in the past 10 years. Yeesh, pass the luck around will ya!?
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The champs and we still have the #9 pick. Thanks Toronto.
The Boston Bruins pick....
White Len Bias
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I was reminded of one slightly bad and one really bad deal the Flyers made.
We do not have a first or third round pick because those went for Kris Versteeg... slightly bad.
Then there is the horrible reason we don't have a 2nd round pick. We sent Scottie Upshall and 2nd round to Phoenix for Danial Carcillo... wtf. So no pick until the 4th round, wonderful.
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Maybe the Avs will trade some of their earlier picks to the Flyers for Bryz? :biggrin:
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It would be incredibly dumb for anyone to sign Bryzgalov to the kind of deal he reportedly wants.
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Frankly, I'm going to be so pissed at the Flyers if they don't sign Bryz simply because we should have learned our lesson with Hamhuis. We traded for rights unconditional stuff and got burned. If you're going to make a big trade for rights to this guy then you better be fucking prepared to sign him.
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The champs and we still have the #9 pick. Thanks Toronto.
The Boston Bruins pick....
White Len Bias
You stabeth at my heart Mason. :lol
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lolbryzgalov
What kinda hockey player hates the cold. One that's from Russia no less.
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Hey Nick, you'll get Nabokov and like it!
YtseSpider -- You think Landeskog is a Devil?
Can't wait for the draft.
Portnoy, if you're reading this (and I know you're not....when was the last time you wore a hockey jersey?) you better kick ass on Friday!
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I think Landy will go 3 or 4.....and I know the Sens have a huge hard-on for him.I think Alfredson is his favorite player and he might even be from the same town as Alfie.
Frankly the women in Ottawa will too...you should have seen this kid at the combine...he's an adonis...
He won't be there at 6...so they'll trade up to get him. Or try very hard.
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Salary cap at 64M ceiling, 48M bottom. Rewards the cap challenged teams.
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Salary cap at 64M ceiling, 48M bottom. Rewards the cap challenged teams.
Got to spend to the cap to win.
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Some people have too much time on their hands and I'm grateful for them.
(https://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/kingshmegland/charazillalrg.jpg)
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lidstrom returning for next season, good for the wings.
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lidstrom returning for next season, good for the wings.
The guy still produces at a high level. Good to see.
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My mom stalked Alfie and Bibby at Golftown yesterday.
He must have had his surgery cause he wasn't moving too quick and she was driving.
No matter how fast he heals, he might be done.....
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lidstrom returning for next season, good for the wings.
Thank goodness. Losing two top blue liners in one off-season would have really hurt.
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according to the winnipeg gm, the 7th pick won't wear the jerseys of the team for next season. sounds like he will be given a thrashers jersey, they are being real douchey about this whole naming/logo thing. hurry the hell up and tell us, you are not the devils, you can't drag this on.
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Check out the link to the B's partying at Fooxwoods in Conn. A $100,000 champagne bottle. And Marchand pimping with some hot girls. Too funny.
https://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=928673
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I believe that picture of a bar tab has been spreading around for at least 6 months. I'm trying to find the articles about it.
Edit: one I was thinking of was from the Wynn, so this may be legit.
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Jagr is expressing interest in returning to the Penguins. I'd certainly welcome it.
https://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/s_743092.html
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I saw the bill for a Sens year end party at Cappone's restaurant.
20K.
Two waitresses got 500$ tip each.
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Jagr is expressing interest in returning to the Penguins. I'd certainly welcome it.
https://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/s_743092.html
it's between pens, wings, and an undisclosed team right now. there is only one team that i can think of which likes to deal undisclosed. jagr/elias would be a deadly combo.
apparently pens are only interested if the price is very low, which probably disqualifies them.
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Jagr is expressing interest in returning to the Penguins. I'd certainly welcome it.
https://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/s_743092.html
it's between pens, wings, and an undisclosed team right now. there is only one team that i can think of which likes to deal undisclosed. jagr/elias would be a deadly combo.
apparently pens are only interested if the price is very low, which probably disqualifies them.
Dear god not the Wings. Jagr is the reason I started hating the Pens even though I'm a born and raised yinzer.
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I'll be surprised if Jagr comes back. I don't think anyone's going to pay him enough to lure him out of Russia.
Anyone who does is not going to be happy with the result.
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his feet are just not where they need to be.....and it will quickly become evident.
Hell...did you see that one goal of Tyler Seguin's...where he turns on the speed and blows through two defenders......that's the speed Jagr no longer possesses.
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his feet are just not where they need to be.....and it will quickly become evident.
Hell...did you see that one goal of Tyler Seguin's...where he turns on the speed and blows through two defenders......that's the speed Jagr no longer possesses.
Now if Tyler can put it all together and play a little defense......the sky's the limit for him.
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Jagr is expressing interest in returning to the Penguins. I'd certainly welcome it.
https://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/s_743092.html
it's between pens, wings, and an undisclosed team right now. there is only one team that i can think of which likes to deal undisclosed. jagr/elias would be a deadly combo.
apparently pens are only interested if the price is very low, which probably disqualifies them.
Probably. It'd be so nice to see what the Pens could do if they actually had a winger, though.
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The wings should NOT sign jagr....the wings need speed and toughness, both of which a 39 year old does not bring.
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rumor is bryzgalov deal is done and he's a flyer for 7M a year. :rollin
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Flyers and their goalies..they just can't get it right.
He'll be ok for a while...but if he falters....eek. It's like Vancouver being stuck with Luongo for another 8 years or whatever it is.
On another note.
Ottawa radio held polls to ask listeners what they would give up to get one of the top picks.
Would they trade both the 6th and the 21st? For say...1 or 2?
The 6th and a 2nd rounder? for the Devil's 4th?
The 21st and ALL of the 2nd round picks (three I think)
Im interested to see what happens.
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rumor is bryzgalov deal is done and he's a flyer for 7M a year. :rollin
thats way too much. Also, how much does that mean they need to clear cap max?
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and he's apparently asking for 7 year 50M, so it's over 7M a year. They need to clear at least 5 i think it may be more.
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Jeez. I would not have gone over $20 million for four years.
This is the age of goaltender parity. Great goaltenders come cheap and plentiful. No reason to shell out for a guy giving you what Bryzgalov brings, when you can get a cheaper option, for just nearly as good, and keep the team that's going to win you games.
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I can't see the Flyers going that long on a deal with Bob in waiting.
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I posted this on 5/8:
The Flyers are fucking retarded.
Regular Season
Sergei Bobrovsky and Brian Boucher last year: 46-23-12, 2.52 GAA, 0.915 sv %
Ilya Bryzgalov: 36-20-10, 2.48 GAA, 0.921 sv%
Total goals saved if Bryzgalov was a Flyer: 14 (and that's if he played every game)
Playoffs
Brian Boucher and Sergei Bobrovsky: 4-6, 3.16 GAA, 0.897 sv %
Ilya Bryzgalov: 0-4, 4.36 GAA, 0.879 sv %
Total goals saved if Bryzgalov was a Flyer: -6
Totally worth adding $5 million to your payroll and probably ditching Carter for.
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Well the problem originates with a shitty trade. We should have learned from the Hamhuis deal NOT to trade anything away for the CHANCE at signing a goalie. Now the organization feels they have to sign Bryz, and while he may be a solid 5m a year goalie he sure as hell isn't worth 7mil/7yr.
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Vokoun's a perfect fit. I can't believe they're not going after him. Better, cheaper, for less length.
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Imagine if the Flyers didn't say no the the trade of Jeff Carter for Tim Thomas last year.
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Vokoun's a perfect fit. I can't believe they're not going after him. Better, cheaper, for less length.
Yeah, I would have preferred that.
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Per McKenzie tweet.
TSNBobMcKenzie Bob McKenzie
Hearing CBJ gives Voracek, 1st round pick and 3rd round pick for Carter.
bryz better be worth it.
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also richards is gone to LA, which is great for us since we don't like the douchebag.
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Ridiculous shakeup for Philadelphia, I really want to know what Nick thinks of all of this.
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WHAT THE FUCK??!?!!?!?!?!?!
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WHAT THE FUCK??!?!!?!?!?!?!
Both in the same day and that huge deal for the goalie. Yowzaa. I've heard of shakeups but.......damn.
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I guess I'm not that surprised by Carter, but I'm stunned about Richards.
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I guess I'm not that surprised by Carter, but I'm stunned about Richards.
Yea, I guess with Carter's contract similar in length and amount to Bryzgalov they had to do it but it's still a shock.
With all this change and the Flyer playing the B's on opening night to raise the flag I wish the NHL matched up the Habs instead.
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WHAT THE FUCK??!?!!?!?!?!?!
LOL.......Meanwhile.....in Philladelphia.
oh boy.
I don't like these Gaborik to Ottawa rumors I'm hearing.
We tried that.
It was called a "Havlat" and it was made from glass.
Stay the course Bryan...stay the course.
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Doesn't Gaborik have a NTC?
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Bryz's comments about fans in Phoenix in puck daddy article make me glad he is gone. What a dick.
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On mini-vacation, will try and post MANY thoughts on Sunday...
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j-e-t-s
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WTF Avs give Liles away for a 2012 2nd rounder.
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wtf
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Most likely will trade Staz away too.
Avs are somewhere like 10mill UNDER the cap minimum. I have no idea what this team is doing.
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great defense pick, i'm excited about our next 3 cups.
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great defense pick, i'm excited about our next 3 cups.
Is it tough to be excited for something you may not be alive for?
I have sooooooooooo much to say about the Flyers in the last week, and when I'm not about to fall asleep at the keyboard and done with the weekends activities I will post them up, but for now I'd say my feelings are mixed, but slightly negative.
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I remember when the Colorado Avalanche used to be good...back when Patrick Roy was around...those were the days.
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What an interesting draft.
I knew Landeskog would go high...only Nugent-Hopkins hype got him drafted first. Landeskog is the real deal.
SO many Swedes taken..................and not a single Russian. They predict not a single Russian may go at all. Even the ones playing here in the OHL are subject to some kind of nasty transfer arrangement.
If Seteguchi is another Milan Michalek then the Sharks Wild trade is a tad more balanced. I'm not sold on Brent Burns, concussion issues, and so on....he's just this year's Brian Campbell. Speaking of Soupy....he's a Panther. What a play by the Hawks. I compare that trade to the Toronto Blue Jays unloading Vernon Wells on Anaheim......here...have a stupid contract. I guess the Panthers feel they'll get a Wade Redden type player who can get them to the salary floor over the next few years.
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I lied... the Avs are 20mill under the cap min.
I don't know what is up with this team. They have lost almost all personality and trade away anyone with any. The guys that would make you laugh are almost all gone. Any guys that outright showed strong passion are gone. Boring team is boring.
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What an interesting draft.
I knew Landeskog would go high...only Nugent-Hopkins hype got him drafted first. Landeskog is the real deal.
SO many Swedes taken..................and not a single Russian. They predict not a single Russian may go at all. Even the ones playing here in the OHL are subject to some kind of nasty transfer arrangement.
If Seteguchi is another Milan Michalek then the Sharks Wild trade is a tad more balanced. I'm not sold on Brent Burns, concussion issues, and so on....he's just this year's Brian Campbell. Speaking of Soupy....he's a Panther. What a play by the Hawks. I compare that trade to the Toronto Blue Jays unloading Vernon Wells on Anaheim......here...have a stupid contract. I guess the Panthers feel they'll get a Wade Redden type player who can get them to the salary floor over the next few years.
I was STUNNED by the Flyers trades, but I have to say VERY impressed (rumors of the locker room rift must have been true). The Flyers are going to be scary good for the forseeable future with these trades and their draft picks.
I can't believe Larsson made it to number 4. I would have picked him first. Lucky Lou does it again! There was no way Lou was passing on this guy. Specifically addresses the Devils need for a puck moving defenseman.
The Islanders did well for themselves too. I like the guy they picked although I didn't think there were going to do it. Strome and Tavares could be the next Trottier and Bossy (Or at least as close as that's ever going to come).
I can't believe that teams like Chicago, Philadelphia, and New York sign players to insanely bad contracts and then be able to trade away these mistakes SO EASILY. How does this happen?
Burns is said to be over the concussion issue. My issue with him is that they have him for one year and then could lose him after paying so much. I think the reason that it cost the Sharks so much was that the Devils were probably trying to get him too.
I don't think you'll see another high-drafted Russian until the NHL's shootout with the KHL is settled one way or another. Way too many unknowns when NHL teams can't control player development.
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speaking of bad deals.....alex tanguay anyone?
good grief calgary does stupid stuff.....they probably think they're rewarding him for an "ok" season where took a cut of 1.75 to prove himself....
I like Murray drafting an 0ttawa 67....Sharks GM has long known (since he played there) that the 67's build quality team members not individual stars.
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Time for Nick's thoughts on the off-season dealings of the Flyers.
Flyers trade AHL Forward, third round pick, and conditional pick for the rights to Ilya Bryzgalov:
What the fuck Flyers? Didn't you learn anything from the Hamhuis deal? Why in the fuck are you trading a third round pick on the possibility of signing a goalie? In any case Ilya had been a strong goalie in Phoenix and it might be worth what we're giving up if we get him. My main issue is his lack of playoff success, which is where our previous cheaper goalies always faltered anyway.
Flyers trade Jeff Carter for Jakub Voracek, a first round pick (#8), and a third round pick:
Awesome trade. We knew that cap space had to be made to sign Ilya and this got it done, and in the process we got some much needed draft picks, including a nice 8th overall pick. I've always felt Carter was a bit overrated in that he is a one dimensional player. You get him the puck in the right spot and he'll give you a good shot. He's not an overly amazing skater, he's not great on defense, he doesn't make big plays happen and he's not at all physical. Jakub has some potential and being RFA we should get him signed at a good price. The next bit of news I expect to hear is the signing of Ilya.
Flyers trade captain Mike Richards for Brayden Schenn, Wayne Simmonds and a 2nd round draft pick:
What. the. fuck? I will start by saying Richards is my favorite Flyer, and I think the deserving captain of the team over the past few years. I don't think we should have traded him, and if we were going to we should have got more for him. In comparison to Carter you have a guy who got just as many points last season, but has been considered one of the best two way forwards in the league and who plays with a fantastic physical edge. Schenn is a nice pickup, but we should have got a first round pick with him, not a second. I understand it was possible another move had to be made to get people other than Ilya signed, but it should have been Hartnell or Versteeg saying bye-bye.
Flyers sign Ilya Bryzgalov for 9 years, 51 million dollars (5.6/year):
Not a huge fan of the deal. I had envisioned that after 3-4 years the Flyers would finally have a solid goaltender trained from within the organization to step up as a lead goalie, notably Sergei Brobrofski. Ilya could easily be worth his contract, but on the other hand this could be a tremendous flop for the Flyers. Only next season will really show what he can do. As I'll get to later he won't have too much help...
In the aftermath:
My biggest issue with all the trades is they didn't get us what we needed more than even a goalie, which was a good young defender or two. I would have gladly even given up Kimmo or Pronger in the process, but what we needed to do was to reduce the age on our defense. Between the two I just named we have over 12 million in cap hit and they are both getting old fast. Not saying they are going to crap out this year, but they are certainly slowing down. So we end up trading away two top forwards for forward prospects, bringing down the age of an already very young offense while the top of our defensive core continues to age.
What's left before July?:
SIGN VILLE FUCKING LEINO. I swear to god, after parting with Carter and Richards, if the Flyers don't sign Leino I'm going to start flipping shit. The man has been a great winger with the team and deserves a good contract, and now the $ are there for it.
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It's too bad for the Flyers that Emery's hip was fucked up. For a while there, it looked like he was going to solve all of Philly's (overstated, albeit) goaltending woes.
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Nick, were the Flyers not happy with Bobrovski? From afar, he seemed like the goalie of the future. He played pretty well didn't he? That kid that was taken at #8 looks pretty solid, though.
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What I don't understand is, if there was a rift in the dressing room...ie: Richards crew vs. Pronger's crew....why stick with the 100 year old mostly retired/injured defenseman's group?
Ship out the disentors, not the captain. Oh wait....Richards didn't like the coach either.....
Im not overly concerned about the term of the Bryz deal. It's front loaded...the final 4 aren't completely "untradeable".
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speaking of bad deals.....alex tanguay anyone?
good grief calgary does stupid stuff.....they probably think they're rewarding him for an "ok" season where took a cut of 1.75 to prove himself....
As a Flames fan, I would have preferred maybe a two or three year deal to a five year deal. A cap hit of $3.5 million isn't awful though. I was also disappointed with the Regehr deal - he was a fantastic defenceman and we got pretty much nothing for him. At least they got rid of Kotalik's salary though.
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Nick, were the Flyers not happy with Bobrovski? From afar, he seemed like the goalie of the future. He played pretty well didn't he? That kid that was taken at #8 looks pretty solid, though.
Fans were quite happy with Bob, but I think we generally understood he was young and had issues to work out. I think most of us figured that we'd do something in the short run to give Bob time to develop.
What I don't understand is, if there was a rift in the dressing room...ie: Richards crew vs. Pronger's crew....why stick with the 100 year old mostly retired/injured defenseman's group?
Ship out the disentors, not the captain. Oh wait....Richards didn't like the coach either.....
Im not overly concerned about the term of the Bryz deal. It's front loaded...the final 4 aren't completely "untradeable".
What happens behind closed doors is always hard to judge, but I generally agree we should have gone with the young captain as opposed to the aging defenseman.
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Sounds like there's significant realignment discussion being kicked around.
https://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL/2011/06/22/18321961.html?cid=rsssportsslam!%20hockey (https://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL/2011/06/22/18321961.html?cid=rsssportsslam!%20hockey)
That proposal sounds pretty good for western conference teams. It's a lot easier to split it two ways than three and with a balanced schedule you'd have less games on the west coast which kill tv ratings for teams east of the Rockies, especially for Detroit and Columbus. Not sure how you'd get both of them east short of having unbalanced conferences however, which is a lot more problematic than unbalanced divisions, not to mention is undermined if a franchise relocates to eastern Canada.
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Sounds like there's significant realignment discussion being kicked around.
https://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL/2011/06/22/18321961.html?cid=rsssportsslam!%20hockey (https://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL/2011/06/22/18321961.html?cid=rsssportsslam!%20hockey)
I had heard about this before, but not about the division names, which this article reports as Pacific, Midwest, East and South. What I don't like about those divisions is that it seems highly unlikely that the four western Canadian teams would be in the same division. It seems like quite a stretch to call Vancouver a Midwestern city or Winnipeg a Pacific city.
That proposal sounds pretty good for western conference teams. It's a lot easier to split it two ways than three and with a balanced schedule you'd have less games on the west coast which kill tv ratings for teams east of the Rockies, especially for Detroit and Columbus. Not sure how you'd get both of them east short of having unbalanced conferences however, which is a lot more problematic than unbalanced divisions, not to mention is undermined if a franchise relocates to eastern Canada.
I don't think it's fair to say that the divisions or conferences would suddenly be "unbalanced" just because of a realignment. Sometimes a team that is awful one year suddenly becomes dominant the next year. That isn't really all that different than swapping Atlanta with Detroit (under the existing system), for example.
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EDIT: I decided to take a stab at what I think the four new divisions could look like. Although these seem more logical, I'd much rather see Winnipeg in the Pacific with the other Western Canadian teams. Perhaps if Phoenix relocates in the next few years Winnipeg will have a chance. Of course if the Coyotes end up going to Quebec you're stuck with pushing Detroit back into the West.
Pacific:
Vancouver Canucks
Calgary Flames
Edmonton Oilers
San Jose Sharks
Los Angeles Kings
Anaheim Ducks
Phoenix Coyotes
Midwest:
Winnipeg Jets
Minnesota Wild
Colorado Avalanche
Dallas Stars
St. Louis Blues
Chicago Blackhawks
Nashville Predators
East:
Montreal Canadiens
Ottawa Senators
Toronto Maple Leafs
Buffalo Sabres
Boston Bruins
New York Rangers
New York Islanders
New Jersey Devils
South:
Detroit Red Wings
Pittsburgh Penguins
Philadelphia Flyers
Columbus Blue Jackets
Washington Capitals
Carolina Hurricanes
Tampa Bay Lightning
Florida Panthers
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Oh and I just had another thought. Imagine if somehow Winnipeg won their division this year. For the rest of the team's history, they'd have a "Winnipeg Jets - Southeast Division Champions" banner hanging in their arena.
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Ed Belfour, Doug Gilmour, Mark Howe and Joe Nieuwendyk inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame
2 devils into the hall of fame, not too shabby, but they are still trying to avoid pat burns.
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Avs decide not to qualify Elliot... said do not intend to sign Budaj earlier this year as well. So the Avalanche are planning on putting a defenseman into some pads or what?
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vokoun.
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vokoun.
and a prospect as a backup?
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i guess so, there aren't a whole lot of legitimates left out there. we are resigning moose, so the pool is shrinking.
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Baffled by Nieuwendyk's induction.
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^^really?^^
He was the easiet choice for me.
Followed by Belfour.
Fear not av's fan..there are goalies out there to be had.
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Nieuwendyk was never one of the league's best forwards at any time during his career, and despite playing mostly in the highest-scoring era of the NHL didn't manage a point-per-game over his career.
It's a pro-Leaf bias. How is Nieuwendyk more worthy than Lindros or Bure? Or Oates?
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It's a pro-Leaf bias.
That might be a bit of a stretch.
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It's a pro-Leaf bias.
That might be a bit of a stretch.
Of the four inducted this year three were Leafs at some point in their career... and the fourth was once a Marlie.
It's pretty well-known that Leafs are overrepresented in the Hall.
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Got to agree with GP that Oates should have gone in instead of Nieuwendyk
Nieuwendyk, Games--1257. Points--1126
Oates, Games--1337, Points-- 1420
Oates. More point in less games. that cannot be said for Nieuwendyk.
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No shock. The B's are trying to trade Kaberle and his negotiating rights to other teams.
https://www.weei.com/sports/boston/this-just-in/21116066/report-bs-looking-trade-kaberles-rights
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Ed Belfour, Doug Gilmour, Mark Howe and Joe Nieuwendyk inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame
2 devils into the hall of fame, not too shabby, but they are still trying to avoid pat burns.
The Hall should be ashamed that they didn't induct Burns while he was alive. A Damn shame!
I don't have a major problem with Nieuwendyk. But Mark Howe?? Really?
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Got to agree with GP that Oates should have gone in instead of Nieuwendyk
Nieuwendyk, Games--1257. Points--1126
Oates, Games--1337, Points-- 1420
Oates. More point in less games. that cannot be said for Nieuwendyk.
Umm... 1337 > 1257
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Nick. More games yes. But what I pointed out was that Oates still had a hundred points more that his games played but JN had 100 points less than his games played.
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That is more points per game, you said more points in less games which was incorrect.
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That is more points per game, you said more points in less games which was incorrect.
Me egrish isim pour. sorry!
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How long had Newy been up for induction compared to Oates.
It might just be a timing thing.
Lindros.....should be there..but there are going to be people that fight that one. The guy was a dick, and they don't like to induct people on "shoulda coulda" criteria.
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This was Nieuwendyk's second year of eligibility. Completely unwarranted.
As for Lindros, the whole "being a dick" factor didn't stop Belfour or Gilmour. The guy should be in there, for sure. He was the power forward, and before injuries started wrecking him, he was right up there with Lemieux, Jagr, and Gretzky.
Neely got in, deservedly. So should Lindros and Bure.
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Is Lindros even near the tops of any all-time lists? I don't think he should get in, but I am probably biased ha
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But "tops of all time" lists are usually pretty shit. They tend to rate team success higher than individual success, and focus on longevity rather than peak.
Lindros was one of the best players of the 90s, and the early Dead Puck era. He deserves to get into the Hall.
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Lindros would go in for his "potential" not his actual numbers.
Neely did 50 in under 50 after coming back from a serious injury.
That alone got him in.
If I had a vote.
lindros would not get in
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But "tops of all time" lists are usually pretty shit. They tend to rate team success higher than individual success, and focus on longevity rather than peak.
Lindros was one of the best players of the 90s, and the early Dead Puck era. He deserves to get into the Hall.
Team success? It is a team sport.. But goals, assists, points, games played, playoff points... are all pretty high for me on HoF requirements (for a forward). Lindros should not get in for what he could have been like Ytse says.
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What? Lindros won the Hart and the Pearson, was an All-Star 7 of the 9 seasons where he played more than 50 games, and still managed 1.14 PPG (Neely: 0.96 PPG, Nieuwendyk: 0.90 PPG) despite playing mostly in the Dead Puck era and with several unproductive seasons due to injury.
Lindros was a better player than Nieuwendyk or Neely. There's no question. There's no need to invoke "what ifs?" Sure, he might've been amongst Lemieux or Gretzky if he hadn't been derailed by injuries. But as it stands, he was without question one of the best players in the league for most of his career. Nieuwendyk can't claim that.
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I'm not comparing to any other players in the HoF, in my mind Lindros does not qualify on his own merit.
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I can't think of any better merit than being one of the best players at your position in the world for most of your career.
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And thats where we disagree, because I don't think he was one of the best players at that position for most of his career.
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Fun fact: in Nieuwendyk's highest scoring season, 1989-90, he was the 10th highest scoring center in the league, behind Ron Francis, Pierre Turgeon, Pat Lafontaine, Joe Sakic, Adam Oates, Mark Messier, Steve Yzerman, Mario Lemieux, and Wayne Gretzky.
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Belfour for his win total, definately.
Howe? I just don't think he meets the standard with the injuries. You get closer if you include the WHA, but I think it's still no.
I'm not sure I'd put Killer in. I know he was DOMINANT (with a capital D) for about 4 years in the playoffs in one of the hockey capitals of the world and had an above average and very productive career.
I guess he'd be pretty close to my bubble. Which is why I think Lindros should not get in because I don't think there is a spot for potential in the Hockey Hall of Fame. Those are great points GuineaPig and I may have a Lindros bias, but I'm still not quite convinced.
As an Islanders fan, I'm still shaking my head as to how Clark Gillies got in. I think the world of the guy and he was a VERY important piece of the team, but we are talking about the Hockey Hall of Fame here. If injuries didn't shorten his career maybe we could have a conversation but....Neely too I guess.
I'm definately on the conservative side when it comes to the Hockey Hall of Fame.
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ehrhoff is going to buffalo for apparently 10 years 40 mil, and this after telling isles that he wants to play to win so he won't sign with them. first buffalo isles game is going to be a bloodbath.
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LOL wtf flyers, the most entertaining team this off season.
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Panthers are certainly stocking up. Flyers with Jagr, okay then...
Avs pick up a defensemen and Varlamov so far.
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Flyers get Talbot
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Ok, I'm very confused now.
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Leino to Sabres, Versteeg traded for 2,3 picks, loss considering we paid 1,3 picks.
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Giguere....? And how did I miss that he went to the leafs two years ago? wtf
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Michael Ryder leave the B's to sign with the Stars for 2 years 7 Mil.
Also Rush played in Vancouver last night and get a laugh at what happened on stage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=OrWRiLZTOQU#at=17
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hahah wow awesome vid
Flash goes to Florida... glad we didn't pay him that, its outrageous. But I will miss him, he played really good for us before his heart condition.
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Wow...losing Leino hurts. I understand that with pro sports, you're essentially rooting for the laundry, but this is absurd.
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...the fucking money thrown around yesterday.
I am SO glad Bryan Murray didn't get sucked into that.
A whole bunch of players took GM's to the cleaners.
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Lost
Brian Boucher
Mike Richards
Jeff Carter
Ville Leino
Darrell Powe
Kris Versteeg
Nikolay Zherdev
Daniel Carcillo
Sean O'Donnell
Matt Clarkson
2012 3rd
2012 2nd
Got
Ilya Bryzgolov
Jakub Voracek
Andreas Lilja
Jaromir Jagr
Maxime Talbot
Braydon Schenn
Wayne Simmonds
2011 1st
2011 3rd
2011 4th
2012 2nd
2012 3rd
I'm pretty sure that's what the Flyers have done over the last few weeks, WOW.
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Lost
Brian Bouche
Mike Richards
Jeff Carter
Ville Leino
Darrell Powe
Kris Versteeg
Nikolay Zherdev
Daniel Carcillo
Sean O'Donnell
Matt Clarkson
2012 3rd
2012 2nd
Got
Ilya Bryzgolov
Jakub Voracek
Andreas Lilja
Jaromir Jagr
Maxime Talbot
Braydon Schenn
Wayne Simmonds
2011 1st
2011 3rd
2011 4th
2012 2nd
2012 3rd
I'm pretty sure that's what the Flyers have done over the last few weeks, WOW.
Add Boucher and Powe to the "lost" list.
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Powe was already on, but I added Brian.
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nick....if I were you...i'd be concerned.
Schenn, Bryz, Talbot are studs. Simmonds may amount to something...the rest.....
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Capitals get Vokoun for 1 year, $1.5 million.
Best free agent signing of the last couple years, probably. Best goalie of the past 5 years, and they get him for a quarter of Bryzgalov, and for eight years less.
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nick....if I were you...i'd be concerned.
Schenn, Bryz, Talbot are studs. Simmonds may amount to something...the rest.....
Nick, If I were you, I'd be damned impressed.
They may not get it done this year, but you have at least 5 years of SERIOUS contention here. (And I'm ignoring Jagr. He's only there to hold the fort until the kids are ready.)
If the Islanders don't move to Quebec in 4 years, I look very foward to meeting this forimable challenge.
And you left off Sean Couturier from your list...You may not know who he is now, but you will, Nick....you will.
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nick....if I were you...i'd be concerned.
Schenn, Bryz, Talbot are studs. Simmonds may amount to something...the rest.....
Nick, If I were you, I'd be damned impressed.
They may not get it done this year, but you have at least 5 years of SERIOUS contention here. (And I'm ignoring Jagr. He's only there to hold the fort until the kids are ready.)
If the Islanders don't move to Quebec in 4 years, I look very foward to meeting this forimable challenge.
And you left off Sean Couturier from your list...You may not know who he is now, but you will, Nick....you will.
He would be the 1st round pick in the got section, he's there, just not in name.
Capitals get Vokoun for 1 year, $1.5 million.
Best free agent signing of the last couple years, probably. Best goalie of the past 5 years, and they get him for a quarter of Bryzgalov, and for eight years less.
That is fucking insane. I would have preferred Vokoun to Bryz, and I simply can't believe Vokoun signed with anyone for 1.5 million, that's fucking nuts. My only guess is that he wants to win a cup, and he sees the Capitals as his best chance this year.
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I've never seen such a different team in one year Nick for a team that makes the playoffs quite a bit. It's unreal the change the team is going through.
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I dont like Phillys changes because they werent that far removed from the final. Consider The Ducks losing, missing the playoffs with largely the same core, coming back the following year and getting it done.
You don't mess with success.
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Well, we had certain issues, shipping Carter off to get some draft picks back to sign the star goalie we needed was certainly a good decision, especially since we had too much depth at center. However any further trades should have focused on getting us a good young defenseman, someone to take the place of Pronger and Timonen since those guys are both getting ancient. All these trades later our young offense has just gotten younger and our old defense is not any younger. And I realize we have Carle and Cobourn, but understand our top 3 defensemen are all in their 30's, and our top 2 are in their very late 30's.
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Heatley traded for Havlat.
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lol they are investigating the talbot contract.
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lol they are investigating the talbot contract.
WTF is there to investigate about it?
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lol they are investigating the talbot contract.
WTF is there to investigate about it?
Saw the article, stupid structuring issue, I'm sure it will be voided and then quickly fixed.
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Sens sign Konopka.
Might be the end for Carkner.
Konopka has a skill besides the goonery.
Carkner is the odd guy out on a stacked back end with flashy prospects pushing for spots.
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These morons actually thought they could schedule a hockey game outdoors in late-September in TEXAS?????
Damned Bettman evangelism continues to spiral out of control.
https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=371159
HOUSTON - An NHL exhibition game between the Phoenix Coyotes and Dallas Stars scheduled to be played in Reliant Stadium on Sept. 23 has been cancelled.
Stars spokesman Rob Scichili says the game was called off because of the cost of putting ice in the stadium, the home of the NFL's Houston Texans. Scichili says the game will not be rescheduled.
Ramon Alvarez, a spokesman for Fox Sports Southwest, said the network is trying to "extend the Stars' fan base into Houston," since more of their games will be televised in the market in the near future.
A new regional sports network will begin airing Houston Rockets games in 2012 and Astros games in 2013, freeing air time for more Stars game on the current Fox Sports station in the city.
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You don't remember the preseason game played in the parking lot of Caesar's Palace in Vegas in Sept when it was high 90s?
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Wow it's been a while since I've visited this thread. Anyways, I was just wondering if the zerogravityfat that Paul Bissonette just mentioned on twitter is the zerogravityfat from here. If it is, DUDE YOU LUCKY SON OF A BITCH.
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Yeah, that's definitely him, cool beans Zero.
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hahah yea that was pretty damn cool. :yarr
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Im sorry....what's twitter...and who is Paul Bissonette?
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Im sorry....what's twitter
:|
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^^oh I know generally what it is^^ But I don't have a phone with a data plan, and I sit behind a firewall SO massive at work that 99% of the photos on this board are red X's. Also, all javascripting has been permenantly disabled and I'm running IE7 without any other choice.
furthermore 75% of all twitter accounts are inactive within 3 months of activation....
still...my ignorance does extend to not understanding half of what I read in tweeted messages....hashy something orother...numbersignnumbersign???....
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twitter is a tool for tools to show of their tool-i-ness. but it's very useful for news that break, so i started following hockey news people and bloggers a few summers ago and primarily use it for that purpose.
biznasty is a superhero from phoenix who's a 4th liner for life (incidentally the reason he tweeted back, i told him i'm buying his tshirt that says 4th liner for life - his shirts benefit the homeless in phoenix, hence his rise to power) who basicly is a benchwarmer. he tweets the most fucked up shit that he would fit right in at five8. most convo is on taking a shit, yoga pant girls, and random homeless guy hang outs. he has a favorite homeless guy in vancouver called spoons, who himself became famous for the interactions.
just a giant ongoing meme in person i guess, fun to follow and laugh about. also, if you can burn him bad enough, he will retweet it for the world to laugh. my last attempt at burn was when he came to nj for the game, i told him i have great seats for the game if he wants to watch up close. no dice on that one. i guess the last one caught his attention.
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Biz is hilarious, I get to hear him on local radio all the time during the season. Talks about dating a girl but when he's out of town he's meeting his ex gf or going out. Major joker and quite entertaining.
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now i got biznasty following me on tweet, gotta pick up the game lol
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ahh yes him
They had him on the TSN panel briefly in the play offs I think. It's not like Yotes were really ever in the playoffs so I don't think he had anything better to do.
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OH FUCK YES! CAM JANSSEN IS BACK IN NEW JERSEY BABY! we have our nut back.
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I Pete DeBoer in your general direction......
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sounds intriguing, clarkson loves him so that will help. he has something to work with in jersey unlike florida so we'll see how he does.
stamkos gets 5 years in tampa.
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The Islanders' latest 1st round pick showing off a move (or two) at the prospects scrimmage game. *drools*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHOSbHeBtxU
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The Islanders' latest 1st round pick showing off a move (or two) at the prospects scrimmage game. *drools*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHOSbHeBtxU
Yeah...I saw this a few days ago.
I'd be a LOT more impressed if I see this happen with a little more on the line.
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Doc Emrick joins NBC exclusively, ending 21 years with the Devils. I think he will have his 'number' on the rafters this season or next. What a man.
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Doc Emrick joins NBC exclusively, ending 21 years with the Devils. I think he will have his 'number' on the rafters this season or next. What a man.
I love the guy. I got nervous when I saw that he retired, but was extremely relieved to find that I'd still be able to hear him for national broadcasts.
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jets logo, pretty cool looking imo.
https://postimage.org/image/1fw8i538/
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jets logo, pretty cool looking imo.
https://postimage.org/image/1fw8i538/
A better pic of the new logo:
(https://gfx.aftonbladet-cdn.se/image/13364558/630/normal/9d907c98fb7e6/Ska%CC%88rmavbild+2011-07-22+kl.+23.13.53.png)
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Hmm, not sure I care for the leaf since there is already a team using that as a logo and all, but looks good otherwise. A bit plain but clean.
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I like it!
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I'm reserving any full judgment until I see the jerseys.
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The Jets logos are ugly compared to their vintage stuff, but of course it is all just marketing and now every Jets fan will run out to grab the new jersey.
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Are you kidding? The original is only matched by the isles logo for ugliness.
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Eh, the 90s Jets logo was okay but nothing special. It would of changed by now had the team stayed in Winnipeg anyway.
From what I've seen the logo looks better on merchandise.
(https://images.ctv.ca/archives/CTVNews/img2/20110723/470_jets_merch_110723_430241.jpg?2)
(https://www.globalwinnipeg.com/sports/5151719.bin?size=sw380nws)
Makes the silver pop out nicely
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Are you kidding? The original is only matched by the isles logo for ugliness.
I assume you refer to the Ghost of Captain Highlander....and not the logo that one 4 Stanleys in a row.
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no i refer to all of those, a long island map with a shitty font on the bottom is nowhere near passable as a logo.
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BLASPHEMY!!!
Need I remind you....that red and green shall not be seen....except inside the washing machine. You and your christmas avenger uni's can suck it!
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The Islanders logo is awesome!
There isn't a logo in the entire league and possibly all of sports that depicts what the team is about and its position in its community.
I actuallly like the Prince spaghetti unis better, although I have to admit that the black as applied in the context of the Devils jersey is very tasteful.
More often than not, the use of black on jerseys tend to detract from them in spite of black being popular from a "sales" point of view.
I like the Jets logo on paper but I don't like it in the context of that cap at all.
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There isn't a logo in the entire league and possibly all of sports that depicts what the team is about and its position in its community.
uhhh tampa may want to have something to say about that.
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devils dump rolston on isles. fuck yea!
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nothing like some stinky nj garbage coming out to the island.
Well done.
I can think of a couple DOZEN other ways to get to the cap floor.
Pathetic.
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lol an offer sheet to one of the rfa's would have been a better bet. lou is a genius.
though to be fair, he did play well second half of last season, and should do well in the island if he's top two line. we just didn't have space for him and his wide left cannon of a shot. glass insurance in nassau just sky rocketed.
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ya....on the second line with Yashin, should be fun.
I"ll be in New York City over the weekend with the family....I'm excited.
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There isn't a logo in the entire league and possibly all of sports that depicts what the team is about and its position in its community.
uhhh tampa may want to have something to say about that.
The Lightning? For the sake of argument I'll go along with the obvious stretch of the Lightning bolt representing Florida (Maybe one of the alternate logos has something, I don't know) But where on the logo is there any sign that the team plays hockey?
Rolston-Hunter Trade?
Good deal for both teams. Hunter didn't have a spot on the Islanders anymore and Rollie is versaltile enough to provide leadership and play on both special teams units.
If Hunter is healthy, he'll be a more than solid fit on the Devils 4th line or he'd be somewhat easier to buy out/demote than Rolston should that decison have to be made.
Islanders have the cap room and if Rollie has a good year, he can be traded for futures at the deadline or sign for less money.
Too pretty smart GMs making a trade in this case that fixes a problem.
As a big fan of both teams, I like this trade. Perfect timing for it too.
Unfortunately for me, I have this really bad feeling the Islanders are history in Nassau after 2015.
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you do realize there is a giant florida map under that lightning right?
(https://hockeyindependent.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/4sntjev56ewe9a891k0pihpeh.gif)
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Too bad they switched their logos.
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yea now they have gatorade.
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you do realize there is a giant florida map under that lightning right?
(https://hockeyindependent.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/4sntjev56ewe9a891k0pihpeh.gif)
Where did you find that logo? Is that an alternate jersey logo? You'd figure that it should be used on a full-time basis. Still no hockey stick though.
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i've seen them wear it quite a few times but i'm not sure which jersey it is. may be the third, but it doesn't matter now, they are going gatorade full time from what i uderstand.
also, hockey stick doesn't matter, majority of the teams don't have it on their logo.
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i've seen them wear it quite a few times but i'm not sure which jersey it is. may be the third, but it doesn't matter now, they are going gatorade full time from what i uderstand.
also, hockey stick doesn't matter, majority of the teams don't have it on their logo.
The fact that the majority of teams don't have it essentially proves my point:
The Islanders logo is awesome!
There isn't a logo in the entire league and possibly all of sports that depicts what the team is about and its position in its community.
It's too bad that I could only have about three years left to enjoy it.
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There isn't a logo in the entire league and possibly all of sports that depicts what the team is about and its position in its community.
(https://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/sbanders/mywebsite/LOGO_Penguins_medium.gif)
I don't think there's any ambiguity about what sport we play :)
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There isn't a logo in the entire league and possibly all of sports that depicts what the team is about and its position in its community.
(https://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/sbanders/mywebsite/LOGO_Penguins_medium.gif)
I don't think there's any ambiguity about what sport we play :)
You're right, that is pretty clear.
But I don't see any reference to Pittsburgh or even Pennsylvania.
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Hint hint:
(https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/00/18/21/b9/point-state-park.jpg)
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That's Pittsburgh, but I don't have any idea what that has to do with the aforementioned logo. ;)
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I have no other way to hint stronger that the triangle in the logo is modeled after the triangle formed at the point.
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Even I got that.
Too bad their super star is pretty much toast.
Sidney Concussion-y
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Except the point in the picture would form an isosceles triangle and the triangle in the logo is an equilibrium triangle.
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Really Nick?..Really you just typed that?
*sigh*
three rivers....three points...triangle.
Normal people get it.
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Yes, I really like fucking with people. :p
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Yes, I really like fucking with people. :p
you sure do mr.equilibrium triangle.....Im sure only Rumborak has heard of that type.
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Whatever the hell it's called, it's equal something or other.
And it's Rumborka that's heard of it. :p
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Rick Rypien is dead.
https://www.rds.ca/hockey/chroniques/324702.html
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:sadpanda:
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Apparently a suicide.
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Apparently a suicide.
Where did you see that?
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:(
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Hint hint:
(https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/00/18/21/b9/point-state-park.jpg)
For the sake of not dragging this out further for a few reasons. I'll grant you that point.
Very sad news about Rypien. Perhaps those demons won in the end. Very sad.
https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=373855
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Im gonna say he probably went off his meds.
Very sad.
Came from a boxing family, could the guy ever throw bombs.
For a little dude.
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Sometimes I wonder why I still care:
(https://www.icethetics.info/storage/blog11/0821-nyi2011a.png?)
Anyone have a match? Whoever designed and signed off on these should be fired!
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At least they didn't return to these
(https://www.sportslogos.net/images/logos/1/19/full/gxfdfz1tfvzsz7rqo9s28dahq.gif)
Although I must admit I like the fisherman logo. Sue me.
And speaking of bad new uniforms, is anybody else pissed at the Kings new uniforms?
(https://www.sportslogos.net/images/logos/1/14/full/h764spr67m14yy877joi5s164.gif)
Not only are they ditching the the rockin purple (you know the color that TIES IN WITH THE NAME) for a boring black and white setup, the logo also now makes me think of baseball. Bravo Kings management.
I'm very opinionated when it comes to sports aesthetics. :biggrin:
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NHL Team's biggest celebrity fans
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/795093-carrie-underwood-and-each-nhl-teams-biggest-celebrity-fan
Boston Bruins - Denis Leary..... and Michael J Fox?
(https://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/001/165/243/56121013_display_image.jpg?1312739678)
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Another foot has washed ashore in Vancouver, and this one was encased in a hockey skate. Law enforcement feel they've finally solved the case as to where the Sedin twins went during the Stanley Cup final. Extensive forensic research will be required to determine which Sedin twin's foot they've located. Scientists have said identification may be difficult as the foot and skate have been burned slightly.
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In all seriousness, did they ever solve that case?
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no...and another foot washed ashore yesterday in a sneaker.
as Holmes would say...."the game....is afoot."
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JVR will be with Philly another 7 years. 6 year extension at 4.5m a year.
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JVR will be with Philly another 7 years. 6 year extension at 4.5m a year.
Just like Carter and Richards!
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JVR will be with Philly another 7 years. 6 year extension at 4.5m a year.
I'm sure Giroux is tickled pink over this one.
More divisiveness in the Philly lockerroom.
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devils will retire niedermayer's #27 on december 16th.
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I'm going to the Forsberg retirement ceremony :gadough:
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I'm going to the Forsberg retirement ceremony :gadough:
you think he'll show?
(smirk)
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I'm going to the Forsberg retirement ceremony :gadough:
you think he'll show?
(smirk)
oh snap.
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you think he'll show?
(smirk)
:sadpanda:
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https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=374888
Oh no...another one.
Wade Belak...
damnit...these guys are really depressed.
real shame.
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https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=374888
Oh no...another one.
Wade Belak...
damnit...these guys are really depressed.
real shame.
Yeah....I saw that earlier today.
Very sad.
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https://msn.foxsports.com/nhl/story/Former-NHL-player-Wade-Belak-hanged-himself-090111?GT1=39002
Suicide what a shame
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i created a league on espn, if you want to join, search for 'five on eight hockey' or just pm me your email address and i'll invite you.
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https://en.rian.ru/russia/20110907/166504776.html
oh shit.
Demtira and Rachunek were on the team, but no confirmation of who was on the plane. From the Sens website.
been a tragic hockey summer.
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One of our prospects was likely on the plane, terrible news.
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Terrible news. And our Swedish goalie Stefan Liv was probably on that plane too, nobody knows yet.
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Skrats :( Salei :(
Sad summer for the NHL.
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and Brad McCrimmon...I met him when he was an assistant coach with the isles I think....
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Really Sid... didn't think of rescheduling the press conference?
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The summer of sadness continues.
Wow.
https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=375297
There needs to be some kind of recognition before the season starts.
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Jesus what a bad offseason :(
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Horrible news about the plane crash.
On a lighter note, here are the NHL12 Rejected Featues (https://www.thepensblog.com/tpb/sep2011/rejected-nhl12-features.html).
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lol crosby cam is the best one.
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some absolute gold in the blackngold
the dregger twitter media account thingy.....great stuff.
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Dreger Media Mode was funny, but Root Sports Mode and Matt Cooke Mode were my favorites.
Still having a tough time wrapping my heard around this:
https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/story/2011/09/10/russia-plane-crash-memorial.html
So sad.
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BUMP. anyone who wants to join the fantasy league pm me with your emails.
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Details? I'm interested.
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it's an espn league with 2 keepers for next season, if you send me your email i can invite you.
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it's an espn league with 2 keepers for next season, if you send me your email i can invite you.
Interesting, PM sent.
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ah, nm, got the email. invitation sent.
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https://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/6995494/mike-danton-uses-prison-skills-save-teammate
"Former NHL player Mike Danton was sent to prison for plotting to take a life. In his return to professional hockey, the skills he learned while incarcerated may well have saved one."
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https://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/6995494/mike-danton-uses-prison-skills-save-teammate
"Former NHL player Mike Danton was sent to prison for plotting to take a life. In his return to professional hockey, the skills he learned while incarcerated may well have saved one."
I saw that yesterday here:
https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=376188
Seems like the guy is making up for his mistake.
I just finished watching the Vancouver-Calgary game.
I was really stoked to see the Leafs-Flyers game but those bozos at NHL Network blacked it out so I had to wait three hours to get my fix.
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hockey is back baby!
sykora scored a hat trick in scrimmage, and just scored on lundqvist, he may earn a minimum wage in the devils line up.
larsson is looking pretty solid as well, he picked up an assist on that goal.
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Way to go Sharks! :metal
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Way to go Sharks! :metal
And the category is: Things you'll never heard said during the playoffs.
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Well the Islanders have the Sharks goalie now....so we're all set to fail.
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The Avalanche have.... wait who do the Avalanche have? lol
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it's an espn league with 2 keepers for next season, if you send me your email i can invite you.
So I'd rather not create an account until I know how the pool works. Could you give me a basic rundown?
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Well the Islanders have the Sharks goalie now....so we're all set to fail.
Worst case senario is the Islanders are in the playoff race until the last few weeks. Best case senario is that they make it and become shit disturbers.
Of course the Devils are primed for a deep run as they've addressed their defensive woes and got bigger up front.
Is Steve Bernier that much of a head case that he won't get 25 goals this year?
leafs look like they have a lot of jump this year (Of course that's pretty much been the case over the last few years)
I need to find out why I can't get Flyers games on cable when my cable company OWNS the Flyers (and has interests in most of the league).
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tv in general for the NHL is a colossal fuck up...even in Canada....NHL teams here are SO important they black out each other's games. Dumb Dumb Dumb.
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it's an espn league with 2 keepers for next season, if you send me your email i can invite you.
So I'd rather not create an account until I know how the pool works. Could you give me a basic rundown?
it's a live draft with 2 keepers for next year, 6 teams for each conference 12 total. something like 10 categories for goals, assists, etc, and goals against, wins, saves for goalies, head on head weekly, the winner is by categories won, but your head to head is not relevant, it's just picking up category wins for overall lead. let me know if you need any other info.
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My predictions for the season:
West
Vancouver
Chicago
San Jose
Detroit
Los Angeles
Nashville
St. Louis
Calgary
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Anaheim
Columbus
Phoenix
Dallas
Minnesota
Edmonton
Colorado
East
Washington
Pittsburgh
Buffalo
New York Rangers
Boston
New Jersey
Philadelphia
New York Islanders
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Montréal
Toronto
Tampa Bay
Carolina
Ottawa
Winnipeg
Florida
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LA and Edmonton will both do better in the West than you are predicting I think.
And while I think the Atlantic division will be strong again this year I highly doubt all 5 teams will make the playoffs.
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Jagr is looking pretty good, Nick.
So is Brendan Shanhan (more suspensions this year already than all of the regular season last year)
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Yeah, I've heard good reports of Jagr from those who have seen some of the games. Tomorrow I'll get to watch my first pre-season game and I'm really looking forward to it.
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https://psamp.com/2011-articles/september/geno-is-a-troll.html
Hah, Malkin joined twitter a few weeks ago and tweeted today that Crosby was practicing with contact. People were losing their minds. Then he said it was a joke.
Nice one, Geno. :lol
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https://psamp.com/2011-articles/september/geno-is-a-troll.html
Hah, Malkin joined twitter a few weeks ago and tweeted today that Crosby was practicing with contact. People were losing their minds. Then he said it was a joke.
Nice one, Geno. :lol
Geno on Twitter has been fantastic so far. His tweets are hilarious whether he wants them to be or not.
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I haven't heard anything about a Center Ice free-preview this year, but they traditionally do it every year so I'm hoping this year is no different.
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Sean Avery is getting waived today.
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Sweet, I truly hate him.
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So I've been out of the hockey loop for a few years now...are the Islanders gonna be good this year? Worth my time?
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I think they will be. Most others think they won't.
I expect them to make the playoffs. Most think they'll be amongst the worst in the league.
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They will see some improvement this year, but I highly doubt they will make the playoffs.
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I think they will be. Most others think they won't.
I expect them to make the playoffs. Most think they'll be amongst the worst in the league.
They will see some improvement this year, but I highly doubt they will make the playoffs.
They've got some good, young talent, right?
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They do, but I don't think it's enough to get them where they need to be. Still, if Streit stays healthy they should have a decent year.
The team to watch is Edmonton. Not quite sure if they'll make the playoffs, but they are going to have a strong showing as well. Hall and Eberle are going to have break out years I think.
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devils trade steckle to the leafs to make room for sykora. the old man has been very impressive in the preseason, let's see if we can keep up the a-line spark.
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Tomorrow I think I will finally order Center Ice... SO EXCITED
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i'd order, but my wife would probably murder me in my sleep if i watched any more hockey.
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It helps that my new girlfriend is just as much a hockey fan as I am. I'm still getting over the shock of this.
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That's awesome!
My friend, a Winnipeg fan, and me, a Montreal fan, are placing bets on the Montreal vs. Winnipeg game, haha.
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It helps that my new girlfriend is just as much a hockey fan as I am. I'm still getting over the shock of this.
There's only one way to watch a game with the one you love......doggy style.
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That's horrible.
(I'll keep that in mind)
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Banner goes up tonight!!! WOOOOOO!!!!
My 2011-12 predictions
EAST
Northeast
1. Boston (2)
2. Buffalo (5)
3. Montreal
4. Toronto
5. Ottawa
Atlantic
1. Philadelphia (3)
2. Pittsburgh (4)
3. NY Rangers (7)
4. NY Islanders
5. New Jersey
Southeast
1. Washington (1)
2. Tampa Bay (6)
3. Florida (8)
4. Carolina
5. Winnipeg
WEST
Central
1. Chicago (2)
2. Nashville (6)
3. Detroit (7)
4. St. Louis (8)
5. Columbus
Northwest
1. Vancouver (1)
2. Calgary
3. Colorado
4. Edmonton
5. Minnesota
Pacific
1. Los Angeles (3)
2. Anaheim (4)
3. San Jose (5)
4. Dallas
5. Phoenix
Playoffs
EAST
Capitals over Panthers
Rangers over Bruins (my B's can't solve Lundqvist...)
Flyers over Lightning
Penguins over Sabres
Capitals over Rangers
Flyers over Penguins
Flyers over Capitals
WEST
Canucks over Blues
Blackhawks over Red Wings
Kings over Predators
Ducks over Sharks
Canucks over Ducks
Kings over Blackhawks
Kings over Canucks
STANLEY CUP FINALS
Flyers over Kings
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Soooooo excited. Leave tomorrow night for the Avalanche opener on Saturday. Get to see Forsberg's retirement ceremony.
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Even with all the deaths this summer......
I'm still getting a major hard-on watching one of Wayne's Hockey Fight Compilations (set to Seek And Destroy)
Damn!!!
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Really excited for the season this year. Drop the puck!
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Tonight the Penguins being their march to the Stanley Cup...
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Hopefully the Wings can continue to develop young talent to replace the old men, particularly some blue liners.
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Raising the banner tonight bitches!! :metal
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Well the B's played great for 18 minutes and then Philly woke up.
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I hope Gomez can improve this season. He gets paid by far the most, but is by far our worst player.
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I think he will.
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Yeah, I'm a little optimistic. I do have a feeling he'll do better this season.
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YEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!
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Oh, and does anyone want to guess who is going to be at the Flyers/Kings came on the 15th?
This guy.
Oh, and it's also the first game I'll be going to with my new amazing girlfriend.
And it's to the day one month from our first date.
I am so fucking happy right now I could scream.
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Oh, and for a Christmas present she wants to take me to the Winter Classic.
I have officially found the greatest woman ever ever.
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You lucky, lucky man.
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You lucky, lucky man.
The luckiest.
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How much larger are the "Faceoff" logos on the blue lines this year? SHEEEESH
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Oh, and for a Christmas present she wants to take me to the Winter Classic.
I have officially found the greatest woman ever ever.
Damn fine catch Nick.
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Ugh, the ESPN site was broken last night so I couldn't update my lineup for today. Now I have a couple players sitting on the bench. :tdwn
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Oh, and for a Christmas present she wants to take me to the Winter Classic.
I have officially found the greatest woman ever ever.
Dude, save your money for the wedding....ur playoffs.
I'm sucking all I can out of the free preview until Oct. 23. I really want to see that Jets-Habs game Sunday. And Hockey Night in Canada is tomorrow.
I would never pay for the Center Ice package unless there are major changes made to it. Even NHL Network has been disappointing so far.
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Ottawa almost pulled it out tonight. Weird seeing Xenon in another Uni, but it had to happen if the Islanders are to improve.
I didn't watch the Devils game, but I'm sure you'll fill us all in Nick.
Caught the end of the Islanders loss.
Now we're putting ads on the ice surface. Niiice.
Good thing the free preview ends in a few weeks. I wouldn't get anything done!
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Flyers post their first shutout in over a season!
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Flyers post their first shutout in over a season!
Boy does a good goalie make a difference.
Good win by the B's tonight.
Tyler Seguin with 3 assists in 2 games. The kid looks like he's ready to take the next step.
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Flyers post their first shutout in over a season!
Boy does a good goalie make a difference.
Don't exactly need a good goalie to get shutouts. It's mostly determined by random variation, with a strong correlation with low number of shots allowed, and a somewhat weaker correlation with goalie save percentage.
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I'm saying Philly is much better with this goalie. Don't lecture me on what helps a team defensively GP. I've watched hockey long enough to know a goalie itself doesn't mean low goals against. What do you think I'm a hokey noob?! :lol
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Wings look good early this year, young third and forth liners carried the opener and the big guys came tonight; and blanking the Suckalanche on Forplayberg night is extra sweet.
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Go Jets Go!
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Just arrived to this thread, I don't know how I missed it.
Can't wait to put these lightning season tickets to good use.
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The Blue Jackets started 0-2 playing rather badly in both games. Hopefully they can a more successful season this year. The past few years have been very sub-par.
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Such an awesome night in Denver. The ceremony was fantastic, the game was exciting... Avs lost - oh well. Goaltending was solid, the two goals were nasty for a goaler to stop. Just need the offense to start to click, they had some great chances.
Ran into a new friend at the airport too!
(https://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/294802_10150851053610247_831975246_21000294_1093668295_n.jpg)
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(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-yB7JmqMt_og/TpLkfbsFnBI/AAAAAAABu_c/8aJPapC3cGI/s512/bearpens.jpg)
Really though, five points after three consecutive home openers... I'll take it.
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Really though, five points after three consecutive home openers... I'll take it.
Yeh I saw a nice tweet after the flames game, "Penguin 2011-12 - Ruining Your Home Opener".
Shame we couldn't make it 3 in a row, but that's just greedy I guess :)
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Nothing will beat last year when the Flyers rolled into Pittsburgh's shiny new building and we took our rookie goaltender with 0 NHL experience and kicked some Penguin ass. :D
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Congrats on two measly points.
Pens vs. Flyers games this year are going to be crazy. Talbot and Jagr will be in trouble.
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Such an awesome night in Denver. The ceremony was fantastic, the game was exciting... Avs lost - oh well. Goaltending was solid, the two goals were nasty for a goaler to stop. Just need the offense to start to click, they had some great chances.
Ran into a new friend at the airport too!
(https://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/294802_10150851053610247_831975246_21000294_1093668295_n.jpg)
Is that Claude Lemeiux?
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If I saw Claude the Turtle Horseshit Fuckwad Lemeiux I'd hunt him down and waterboard him then shit in his mouth and put a bullet in his head, and spraypaint a red "33" on his chest and probably stomp the shit out of him for good measure.
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Is that Claude Lemeiux?
Yes it is!
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https://www.thepensblog.com/tpb/oct2011/jeremy-roenick-goes-on-a-bizarre-sidney-crosby-rant.html
What the hell?
“I love watching Sidney Crosby, but aren't you guys sick of all this by now?” Roenick said. “I'm sick of it. I'm sick and tired of listening to Sidney Crosby saying, 'Nothing is new yet.' ”
As host Bill Patrick and Eddie Olczyk tried to reason with him, Roenick continued.
“Just don't interview him anymore. I know he's the best player in the league, the best player in the world,” Roenick said. “Head shots are very,very difficult. I'm not saying he's not hurt. There's no question. I've been hit very, very hard. I understand what concussions are all about.you have to be very concerned about this. But enough.”
Get on the ice, let's get going. … let's start hitting. Let's get back in,” Roenick said. “I don't wanna hear every day 'How's your head? How's your head? How's your head?' I don't wanna watch Sidney Crosby tell me every single day how there's nothing new to report.
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Love JR, and don't like SC at all, but c'mon man...
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I fully agree with JR. The coverage of Crosby has been pretty much non-stop over nothing. Give us real updates when they come and that's it.
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How do you tell a guy with a concussion to 'get back on the ice and start hitting'? And he hasn't had a press conference for three weeks.
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I agree with the shut up about Crosby and lets focus on hockey that is currently happening. Tell me when there is a development in his recovery. Don't tell me there is nothing to tell me.
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Chris Neil. The most penalized player since the lockout....suspensions......"0".
He's had some doozies in there too.
Nice hit last night.
He put the team on his back last night.....and let me tell you...Kuba and Gonchar are VERY heavy.
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I agree with the shut up about Crosby and lets focus on hockey that is currently happening. Tell me when there is a development in his recovery. Don't tell me there is nothing to tell me.
But you're blaming the media, right? I think it was weird because Roenick sounded like he was trying to blame Crosby. I've got no issue with blaming the media for anything. I haven't watched many pre- or post-game shows so I haven't heard much reporting on him.
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I agree with the shut up about Crosby and lets focus on hockey that is currently happening. Tell me when there is a development in his recovery. Don't tell me there is nothing to tell me.
But you're blaming the media, right? I think it was weird because Roenick sounded like he was trying to blame Crosby. I've got no issue with blaming the media for anything. I haven't watched many pre- or post-game shows so I haven't heard much reporting on him.
He said "Stop interviewing him"... so yes the media was the target.
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Besides, JR's modus operandi is to stir shit up with outlandish commentary.
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Bruins hopefully can kick the early season 'hangover' and get a win in Carolina tonight. I can accept the opening night loss to Philly....losing 1-0 to a bad Avalanche team on home ice is just...not...cool....
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The Avs have played 2 games this season... how do you know they are bad?
Varlamov has played outstanding so far - stopping 66 of 68 shots in two games. The two shots that did get past were lasers by Detroit. Defense has bulked up, they don't just bounce off guys and fall over (Chara getting knocked down one example). Offense is brand spanking new, tons of young talent that need to get their NHL jitters out. When they click, it could be magic.
Do not take the Avs for granted this season, they made a heck of a lot of changes since last year.
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Oh, and for a Christmas present she wants to take me to the Winter Classic.
I have officially found the greatest woman ever ever.
Damn fine catch Nick.
Dammit Nick! I can't even get my girl to watch on TV. She "doesn't understand sports". FML
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The Avs have played 2 games this season... how do you know they are bad?
Varlamov has played outstanding so far - stopping 66 of 68 shots in two games. The two shots that did get past were lasers by Detroit. Defense has bulked up, they don't just bounce off guys and fall over (Chara getting knocked down one example). Offense is brand spanking new, tons of young talent that need to get their NHL jitters out. When they click, it could be magic.
Do not take the Avs for granted this season, they made a heck of a lot of changes since last year.
I'm not taking the Avs for granted, I appreciate their badness.
They aren't visiting the playoffs without tickets...I guarantee it.
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Chknptpie and BMW are both partly right...Varlamov did a real good job against Detroit, those shots would have beat most goalies on their game. The Avs don't have the offensive firepower to win games consistantly. I don't see the Avs making the playoffs.
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Yeah. Like the Avs at all, but I really don't think they have much of a chance to make the playoffs.
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Yeah Flyers! Wooooooo!
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Yeah Flyers! Wooooooo!
QFT!
Hopefully they can keep it up on Saturday when I'm at the game!
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Philly fans sink to new lows
https://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/msn/philadelphia_flyers_fans_boo_anti_cancer_ad_featuring_rival_players_during_game/7391497?GT1=39002
Booing cancers PSA's because they feature players from other teams :loser:
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Avs v.s Sens tonight.
a battle of conference basements....we shall see.
The Sens really covetted Landaskog but settled for Zibanejad instead.
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I'm glad the Sens didn't get Landeskog.
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My resident Florida Panthers look better this year with their off-season aquisitions.
But "better" is a relative term, depending on how much you previously sucked.
But better is something. I think they may have just enough to sneak into the playoffs.
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No Vokoun means that other improvements won't make enough impact to matter. Florida will not make the playoffs.
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Jose Theodore is good enough. Have you seen Vokoun play this season with Washington? He didnt even start the first game.
He was AWFUL. He may not even be their #1 goalie.
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Avs v.s Sens tonight.
a battle of conference basements....we shall see.
The Sens really covetted Landaskog but settled for Zibanejad instead.
??? Avs are tied for 1st in the western conference.
I'm glad the Sens didn't get Landeskog.
So far I'm really liking the kid. Scored with 40 someodd seconds left in the 3rd period to tie it. Let the Avs steal a win from CJB.
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Jose Theodore is good enough. Have you seen Vokoun play this season with Washington? He didnt even start the first game.
He was AWFUL. He may not even be their #1 goalie.
Vokoun has been the most valuable player in the league since the lockout. No way Florida is as good without him.
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Funny how the "MVP" almost didnt get signed...and only got a 1 yr contract for far less money than he was looking for. Vokoun is a very good goalie...but I think you may be overstating his value.
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Vokoun is a very good goalie but not an MVP though his save % and GA are very good for his career.
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Goaltender is the most important position in hockey. Tomas Vokoun has been the best goalie since the lockout. He did so while playing on some of the worst teams. Therefore, Tomas Vokoun has been the most valuable player since the lockout.
EDIT: Here's a link (https://hockeyanalytics.com/2010/10/2010-nhl-review/)to one of Alan Ryder's statistical break-downs of NHL seasons.
By his model of Player Contribution (similar to GVT and Point Shares), Vokoun was the most valuable player from 2005-06 to 2009-10 by a relatively large margin, as well as the most valuable player in the league in four of those seasons (2005-06, 2007-08, 2008-09, and 2009-10). He hasn't published the 2011 version yet.
According to point shares, Vokoun has been in the top 3 four times since the lockout (same seasons as mentioned above), and has the second-most in total in that time-frame (after Roberto Luongo).
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:victorydance: fuuuuuu Anderson
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https://youtu.be/uA2cPIoLryU
Boom. Good night.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-jIWWfJ0jSBQ/TpfDQCq-R-I/AAAAAAABvbY/NT6c4HvtHRY/s635/drocks12_1.gif)
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Goaltender is the most important position in hockey. Tomas Vokoun has been the best goalie since the lockout. He did so while playing on some of the worst teams. Therefore, Tomas Vokoun has been the most valuable player since the lockout.
EDIT: Here's a link (https://hockeyanalytics.com/2010/10/2010-nhl-review/)to one of Alan Ryder's statistical break-downs of NHL seasons.
By his model of Player Contribution (similar to GVT and Point Shares), Vokoun was the most valuable player from 2005-06 to 2009-10 by a relatively large margin, as well as the most valuable player in the league in four of those seasons (2005-06, 2007-08, 2008-09, and 2009-10). He hasn't published the 2011 version yet.
According to point shares, Vokoun has been in the top 3 four times since the lockout (same seasons as mentioned above), and has the second-most in total in that time-frame (after Roberto Luongo).
Your whole quote fails since he was second to Roberto Luongo. Numbers don't tell you everything. Just like Luingo, who is a mental case who, with all those great stats last year and the playoffs should he wasn't mentally strong enough. Maybe Vocoon has played so well because he has no pressure on him. I'm not saying he isn't a very good to great goaltender but MVP......no way.
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Goaltender is the most important position in hockey. Tomas Vokoun has been the best goalie since the lockout. He did so while playing on some of the worst teams. Therefore, Tomas Vokoun has been the most valuable player since the lockout.
EDIT: Here's a link (https://hockeyanalytics.com/2010/10/2010-nhl-review/)to one of Alan Ryder's statistical break-downs of NHL seasons.
By his model of Player Contribution (similar to GVT and Point Shares), Vokoun was the most valuable player from 2005-06 to 2009-10 by a relatively large margin, as well as the most valuable player in the league in four of those seasons (2005-06, 2007-08, 2008-09, and 2009-10). He hasn't published the 2011 version yet.
According to point shares, Vokoun has been in the top 3 four times since the lockout (same seasons as mentioned above), and has the second-most in total in that time-frame (after Roberto Luongo).
Tim Thomas would disagree (https://inlinethumb56.webshots.com/42167/2695228640059998867S600x600Q85.jpg) (https://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2695228640059998867PNaJIj)
This is my fiance's hand, both showing the size difference between her engagement ring and the champ ring while gloating from her 5th row seats at the Garden while I sit in my crappy California apartment. I was coming here to share this, but then thought I'd jump in on the goaltender discussion and say that TT is the best goalie in the league. I don't even need stats to prove it. I've been a goaltender for 20 years (including a tournament or 2 in Canada...yes Canada) therefore my opinion wins and I submit as fact.
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Goaltender is the most important position in hockey. Tomas Vokoun has been the best goalie since the lockout. He did so while playing on some of the worst teams. Therefore, Tomas Vokoun has been the most valuable player since the lockout.
EDIT: Here's a link (https://hockeyanalytics.com/2010/10/2010-nhl-review/)to one of Alan Ryder's statistical break-downs of NHL seasons.
By his model of Player Contribution (similar to GVT and Point Shares), Vokoun was the most valuable player from 2005-06 to 2009-10 by a relatively large margin, as well as the most valuable player in the league in four of those seasons (2005-06, 2007-08, 2008-09, and 2009-10). He hasn't published the 2011 version yet.
According to point shares, Vokoun has been in the top 3 four times since the lockout (same seasons as mentioned above), and has the second-most in total in that time-frame (after Roberto Luongo).
Your whole quote fails since he was second to Roberto Luongo. Numbers don't tell you everything. Just like Luingo, who is a mental case who, with all those great stats last year and the playoffs should he wasn't mentally strong enough. Maybe Vocoon has played so well because he has no pressure on him. I'm not saying he isn't a very good to great goaltender but MVP......no way.
Tim Thomas would disagree *snip*
This is my fiance's hand, both showing the size difference between her engagement ring and the champ ring while gloating from her 5th row seats at the Garden while I sit in my crappy California apartment. I was coming here to share this, but then thought I'd jump in on the goaltender discussion and say that TT is the best goalie in the league. I don't even need stats to prove it. I've been a goaltender for 20 years (including a tournament or 2 in Canada...yes Canada) therefore my opinion wins and I submit as fact.
I'd say it's a toss-up between Tim Thomas and Jonas Hiller. Depends how you view Thomas' previous season (was it regression to the mean, or injury troubles, or how much of both?), and whether or not he'll regress this year. Goalie parity means the days of there being a clear #1 in the league are over (the last one was Dominik Hasek).
But Vokoun has been more valuable since the lockout. Partly because he's played more games, partly because he's played on much worse teams. Thomas has been valuable, yes, and I'd argue by a significant margin the most valuable last season.
And just for the record, Vokoun has been great in all the times he's been called upon in playoff-style formats. Whether in the NHL playoffs (sv % 0.922), the World Championships (0.941), or the Olympics (0.936).
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First win of the season for Calgary has me grinning. Two goals for Bourque in a 4-1 win over Montreal.
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Eeeek Ottawa.....eek.
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Eeeek Ottawa.....eek.
It was reunion night...the 1993 version took the ice.
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lol dipietro out with concussion from a rolston shot. i bet he was nowhere near the net. #rolstonshootswideleft
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lol dipietro out with concussion from a rolston shot. i bet he was nowhere near the net. #rolstonshootswideleft
Every fucking year like clockwork. :lol
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At least it was a puck this time and not a fist.
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Goaltender is the most important position in hockey. Tomas Vokoun has been the best goalie since the lockout. He did so while playing on some of the worst teams. Therefore, Tomas Vokoun has been the most valuable player since the lockout.
EDIT: Here's a link (https://hockeyanalytics.com/2010/10/2010-nhl-review/)to one of Alan Ryder's statistical break-downs of NHL seasons.
By his model of Player Contribution (similar to GVT and Point Shares), Vokoun was the most valuable player from 2005-06 to 2009-10 by a relatively large margin, as well as the most valuable player in the league in four of those seasons (2005-06, 2007-08, 2008-09, and 2009-10). He hasn't published the 2011 version yet.
According to point shares, Vokoun has been in the top 3 four times since the lockout (same seasons as mentioned above), and has the second-most in total in that time-frame (after Roberto Luongo).
Your whole quote fails since he was second to Roberto Luongo. Numbers don't tell you everything. Just like Luingo, who is a mental case who, with all those great stats last year and the playoffs should he wasn't mentally strong enough. Maybe Vocoon has played so well because he has no pressure on him. I'm not saying he isn't a very good to great goaltender but MVP......no way.
Tim Thomas would disagree *snip*
This is my fiance's hand, both showing the size difference between her engagement ring and the champ ring while gloating from her 5th row seats at the Garden while I sit in my crappy California apartment. I was coming here to share this, but then thought I'd jump in on the goaltender discussion and say that TT is the best goalie in the league. I don't even need stats to prove it. I've been a goaltender for 20 years (including a tournament or 2 in Canada...yes Canada) therefore my opinion wins and I submit as fact.
I'd say it's a toss-up between Tim Thomas and Jonas Hiller. Depends how you view Thomas' previous season (was it regression to the mean, or injury troubles, or how much of both?), and whether or not he'll regress this year. Goalie parity means the days of there being a clear #1 in the league are over (the last one was Dominik Hasek).
But Vokoun has been more valuable since the lockout. Partly because he's played more games, partly because he's played on much worse teams. Thomas has been valuable, yes, and I'd argue by a significant margin the most valuable last season.
And just for the record, Vokoun has been great in all the times he's been called upon in playoff-style formats. Whether in the NHL playoffs (sv % 0.922), the World Championships (0.941), or the Olympics (0.936).
Except Vokoun=no championships, no individual awards.
In a world where stats don't mean much, trophies do, Vokoun isn't near the best. It's like the Crosby-Ovechkin debate, if you think Ovechkin is the better player, which I don't, Crosby has a Stanley Cup and a Gold Medal.
/discussion
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It's not /discussion.
Vokoun should've won the 2006, 2008, and 2010 Vezinas (and in the spirit of the award, the Harts for those years as well) at the least. If the awards voters weren't moronic and realized that wins aren't a good measure of goaltending ability, he probably would have at least one or two.
And stats do mean everything when it comes to goaltending. The way a goalie helps his team win is by making saves at a high rate. Vokoun's been making saves at the highest rate of any goalie in the league once you adjust for defensive measures. No one would say a player who scores 50 goals and 50 assists is less valuable or less of a player than a guy who scores 20 goals and 20 assists and wins the Stanley Cup.
I think Ovechkin has had a better career than Crosby to this point. They're comparable, but Ovechkin has been the league's most prolific goal-scorer, and his style of player is more valuable to his team. Crosby may be the better player now (goal-scorers tend to peak early in their careers), but the Cup and Gold Medal don't factor into it. Both Crosby and Ovechkin have been excellent playoff performers.
And for the record, Vokoun has won two world championships, 2005 and 2010.
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GP knows what's up.
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won another one after being down 2, not too shabby devils.
also, lol rags, i think isles might make it to the playoffs before the rags can even dream of it.
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Finally a B's win. They've been playing great defensively but struggling to put the puck in the net.
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Wewt, OG Jets beat imposter Jets at home opener.
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Pretty much the most badass goal horn known to mankind, and it will never be topped:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=216HO3idYJ8
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Pretty much the most badass goal horn known to mankind, and it will never be topped:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=216HO3idYJ8
How long before it kills somebody?
dipietro out with concussion from a rolston shot. i bet he was nowhere near the net. #rolstonshootswideleft
Every fucking year like clockwork.
Rolston has already proven his worth and the Devils will have a deep playoff run. Win-Win.
And Guinea Pig knows what he's talking about.
I really would have wanted to watch that Islanders-Rangers game (And Hockey Night In Canada), but I had a date with the family in the front row for Carl Palmer and his band. (Which I still can't believe happened twice and Dream Theater led the week off)
I did see a few Rangers shirts there, but resisted. The wife was proud.
Besides, The Carl Palmer Band is just one of those things that trumps the Battle Of New York in the regular season.
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tesla coil doesn't kill anyone, that's the cool thing about it.
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tesla coil doesn't kill anyone, that's the cool thing about it.
Except for when it falls from the rafters and electifies the water condensation on top of the ice, thus wiping out 12 players and 3 officials , not to mention the zamboni driver who tries valiantly to save the players on the ice
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tesla coil doesn't kill anyone, that's the cool thing about it.
Except for when it falls from the rafters and electifies the water condensation on top of the ice, thus wiping out 12 players and 3 officials , not to mention the zamboni driver who tries valiantly to save the players on the ice
I was thinking more along the lines if someone accidently turns it up to 11 or someone throws something at it, but I suppose falling is a remote posibility.
Winnipeg-Toronto games was fun yesterday as is tonight's Leafs- Boston game. One of the more intense games I've seen so far this year.
I love TSN. Too bad it all ends for a while on Sunday.
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Well finally, the B's scored some goals!!
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Tim Thomas would disagree (https://inlinethumb56.webshots.com/42167/2695228640059998867S600x600Q85.jpg) (https://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2695228640059998867PNaJIj)
This is my fiance's hand, both showing the size difference between her engagement ring and the champ ring while gloating from her 5th row seats at the Garden while I sit in my crappy California apartment. I was coming here to share this, but then thought I'd jump in on the goaltender discussion and say that TT is the best goalie in the league. I don't even need stats to prove it. I've been a goaltender for 20 years (including a tournament or 2 in Canada...yes Canada) therefore my opinion wins and I submit as fact.
How did she get a ring (umm ..not the engagement one..)?
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I anticipate a rash of suicides amongst Blue Jackets fans after tonight's game.
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What a finish. I feel bad for columbus fans. Everyone should be beating the Sens this year they are weak at every aspect of the game. Granted the blue jackets have a "couple" injuries. I bet Columbus fans were grinning ear to ear when Neil decides to shove the ref negating the 5 on 3.
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He didn't negate anything. He got a 10 minute misconduct, but no minor or major penalty.
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God. Montreal has just been playing with so little effort lately. I know they'll improve but still. Makes me a :sadpanda:.
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God. Montreal has just been playing with so little effort lately. I know they'll improve but still. Makes me a :sadpanda:.
Habs are a little banged up is all. They'll be fine when they get some bodies back.
Anyone still want to argue about Vokoun's resume?
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He didn't negate anything. He got a 10 minute misconduct, but no minor or major penalty.
they looked sharp last night until that icing mishap and then the wheels fell off the bus. But not entirely.
Good road win.
I'll be at thursday's game - taking my mom.
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Looks like my next game will be November 5th against Columbus.
Looks like I'm slated to see the following against the Flyers for sure already-
Kings (already happened)
Columbus
Chicago
Rangers (Winter Classic)
Penguins
Red Wings
Coyotes
Bruins
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Looks like my next game will be November 5th against Columbus.
Looks like I'm slated to see the following against the Flyers for sure already-
Kings (already happened)
Columbus
Chicago
Rangers (Winter Classic)
Penguins
Red Wings
Im envious of that Winter Classic game.
Should be awesome.
I'll be at the All Star Game.
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The Blue Jackets finally won a game last night. Now I can hang up my CBJ flag in my house. And that win was impressive too, 4-1 over Detroit. Let's hope they can continue to win, cuz the 1-7-1 record is dogshit. lol.
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I watched PHI-WPG and OTT-FLA tonight. Two ridiculously entertaining games.
And I maintain that Ottawa's goal this year is to troll every team.
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Good game between the B's and Habs. Seems the B's can't find the net this year. A bit of a hangover it seems. Not surprising.
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Wow, what a game in Philly tonight, sad we didn't even get a point out of the deal.
In other news it looks like I can add the Bruins and Coyotes to the list of teams I'll be seeing this year. :D
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o.O What a night of hockey!
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We were saying Montreal hit rock bottom during the first period of the Philly game and there was nowhere to go but up. They seem to be doing so. :)
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I watched PHI-WPG and OTT-FLA tonight. Two ridiculously entertaining games.
And I maintain that Ottawa's goal this year is to troll every team.
The game was a bit of a snoozefest until the final five minutes.
Oops..I left with 10 to go to beat the traffic, heard "the Voice" go crazy on the radio when Ottawa won it. He screamed NICK FALIGNO about 10 times.
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Who leaves a hockey game with 10 minutes remaining? I mean I understand people like to leave early, but 2 minutes to go should be plenty of time to beat heavy traffic.
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I was with my mother, but I'd also driven my 8 year old who....if he's in bed too late become an unpleasant ball of puke the next day. And if you stay until to two minutes left of a game in ottawa yer looking at another 25-45 stuck in the parking lot.
We actually start chanting "BEAT THE TRAFFIC - clap clap clapclapclap"
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foosball.
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I was with my mother, but I'd also driven my 8 year old who....if he's in bed too late become an unpleasant ball of puke the next day. And if you stay until to two minutes left of a game in ottawa yer looking at another 25-45 stuck in the parking lot.
We actually start chanting "BEAT THE TRAFFIC - clap clap clapclapclap"
Wow.
The only time I will ever leave a game early is when overtime ends and the shootout is about to start (I just flip the channel when I'm watching TV.)
When the Devils were at the Meadowlands there could be a half-hour or more wait, but you just have to know the good places to park.
Can't say I ever took my mom to a game, but my son saw the Kings play (Manny Legace started that night) when he was three months old at the Meadowlands.
(Perhaps this makes me a bad parent, but we got our son (now 13) home of few weekends back at 1 a.m. after a Carl Palmer Band concert.)
Watching the Sens-Rangers (Go Sens!) game now with the sound turned off (I hate MSG's announcers.)
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These day it takes me about a NYC minute for me to get out of the Nassau Coliseum after a game.
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Ottawa sure knows how to troll.
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Like Torts needed that on a Saturday afternoon.
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rough loss vs. the leafs, brodeur obviously would not commit to the game fearing injury i think, barely any side to side motions leaving the net wide open. though i guess he started to feel more confident towards the end:
https://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=132323&cmpid=nhl-rxl-fb
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LETS GO DEVILS!!!!! I hope they shred the Flyers tonight!!!!
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LETS GO DEVILS!!!!! I hope they shred the Flyers tonight!!!!
3-3 in OT so at least they got the Bettman loser point.
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got it :)
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I thought they would call off Briere's S/O goal. He came to a full stop. By allowing that goal to stand, it might open the door to more of that action in future shootouts.
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I thought they would call off Briere's S/O goal. He came to a full stop. By allowing that goal to stand, it might open the door to more of that action in future shootouts.
I didnt see the goal, but from what I understand, the player can come to a full stop...its the puck that cant, and must always be in motion. But I may be wrong....certainly not the first time :)
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I think thats right, the puck must maintain forward motion, but the player can do whatever.
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Going to see the B's Vs Oilers next Thursday. :metal
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84.4 Shootout - During regular-season games, if the game remains tied at the end of the five (5) minute overtime period, the teams will proceed to a shootout. The rules governing the shootout shall be the same as those listed under Rule 24 - Penalty Shot.
https://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26308
24.2 Procedure - The Referee shall ask to have announced over the public address system the name of the player designated by him or selected by the team entitled to take the shot (as appropriate). He shall then place the puck on the center face-off spot and the player taking the shot will, on the instruction of the Referee (by blowing his whistle), play the puck from there and shall attempt to score on the goalkeeper. The puck must be kept in motion towards the opponent’s goal line and once it is shot, the play shall be considered complete. No goal can be scored on a rebound of any kind (an exception being the puck off the goal post or crossbar, then the goalkeeper and then directly into the goal), and any time the puck crosses the goal line or comes to a complete stop, the shot shall be considered complete.
The lacrosse-like move whereby the puck is picked up on the blade of the stick and “whipped” into the net shall be permitted provided the puck is not raised above the height of the shoulders at any time and when released, is not carried higher than the crossbar. See also 80.1.
The spin-o-rama type move where the player completes a 360° turn as he approaches the goal, shall be permitted as this involves continuous motion.
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Going to see the B's Vs Oilers next Thursday. :metal
Enjoy Kings! all the best to you my brother...
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if the player skates up the face off dot...and misses the puck on his way by..the play is ruled dead and his opportunity has ended.
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going to see the jets tomorrow, and the nordique nation is coming. they are great.
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going to see the jets tomorrow, and the nordique nation is coming. they are great.
Quebec deserves another team.
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as predicted, they were great. we had drinks, took some pics, had fun. they did their 16 minute chant, we did our 3:30 chant we stole from them. great group hope they get the coyotes next year.
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I was at the Flyers game last night, what a blowout against Columbus. It's pretty sad when captain Rick Nash pretty much had a breakaway and had apparently already given up so much Braydon Coburn caught up and owned him. And frankly after being up 8-0 it looked like the Flyers weren't even trying when Columbus finally got 2.
Updated my games to include a game against Carolina and the Alumni Game.
Kings (3-2 OT)
Columbus (9-2 W)
Coyotes (11/17)
Hurricanes (11/31)
Bruins (12/17)
Alumni Game (12/31)
Rangers (Winter Classic) (1/2)
Chicago (1/5)
Red Wings (3/6)
Penguins (3/18)
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Tyler Seguin with an early candidate for Goal of the Year Saturday against the Leafs....kid looks like the real deal.
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Waaaaay to go Avalanche Marketing team. ::)
(https://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/editorial_image/5d/5d2f26671bf80a1d8fc41bedf5644e6b/puck_headlines_sid_crosby_return_possibility_blues_coach_fallout.jpg)
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devils' rookie henrique has 4 goals in 3 games including 2 GWGs, not too shabby. he was taylor hall's center i believe, the kid has moves. zajac will have to fight for his first line job.
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LOL philly, what the heck was that?
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Going to see the B's vs Oilers tonight!! :metal
Taylor Hall vs Tyler Seguin :metal
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I'll be at the Hab/Coyotes game tonight :)
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I'll be at the Hab/Coyotes game tonight :)
Then we are pulling for each other tonight.
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I'll be at the Hab/Coyotes game tonight :)
Then we are pulling for each other tonight.
Ha guess so!! I'll be setting the Avs game to record. Hopefully they pull it together.
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Last 4games the B's have scored 6,7,6,6. I think that's more than all the other games combined.
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I was at the Flyers game last night, what a blowout against Columbus. It's pretty sad when captain Rick Nash pretty much had a breakaway and had apparently already given up so much Braydon Coburn caught up and owned him. And frankly after being up 8-0 it looked like the Flyers weren't even trying when Columbus finally got 2.
Updated my games to include a game against Carolina and the Alumni Game.
Kings (3-2 OT)
Columbus (9-2 W)
Coyotes (11/17)
Hurricanes (11/31)
Bruins (12/17)
Alumni Game (12/31)
Rangers (Winter Classic) (1/2)
Chicago (1/5)
Red Wings (3/6)
Penguins (3/18)
You need to go to more games, Nick.
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I wish that I lived in the States so that I could go to games :'( Need to make sure I go to the game in England next year :)
Go Patriot's! ;D
I just HAD to click NHL instead of NFL without realising and post didn't I :'( Ignore this embarrising moment :angel:
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I was at the Flyers game last night, what a blowout against Columbus. It's pretty sad when captain Rick Nash pretty much had a breakaway and had apparently already given up so much Braydon Coburn caught up and owned him. And frankly after being up 8-0 it looked like the Flyers weren't even trying when Columbus finally got 2.
Updated my games to include a game against Carolina and the Alumni Game.
Kings (3-2 OT)
Columbus (9-2 W)
Coyotes (11/17)
Hurricanes (11/31)
Bruins (12/17)
Alumni Game (12/31)
Rangers (Winter Classic) (1/2)
Chicago (1/5)
Red Wings (3/6)
Penguins (3/18)
You need to go to more games, Nick.
I usually only go to 2, maybe 3 a year, but a wonderful season ticket holding girlfriend is treating me much better than I deserve!
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Damn the B's hangover is over. 6 plus goal in their last 5 games.
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Welcome back Craig Anderson.
And I can't stand Matt Cooke or Sean Avery but I'll give credit.....some pretty goals have been scored. Especially by Cooke who seems bent on reinventing himself ala Rik Tochett.
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Welcome back Craig Anderson.
And I can't stand Matt Cooke or Sean Avery but I'll give credit.....some pretty goals have been scored. Especially by Cooke who seems bent on reinventing himself ala Rik Tochett.
If they play like that, I've got all the respect in the world for them.
Time to settle in for the Vancouver-Islanders game......(It's funny how the Islanders offense was not supposed to be the problem this year.....)
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Welcome back Craig Anderson.
And I can't stand Matt Cooke or Sean Avery but I'll give credit.....some pretty goals have been scored. Especially by Cooke who seems bent on reinventing himself ala Rik Tochett.
If they play like that, I've got all the respect in the world for them.
Time to settle in for the Vancouver-Islanders game......(It's funny how the Islanders offense was not supposed to be the problem this year.....)
The Islanders don't belong on the same ice with the Canucks. Just terrible. The announcers pointed out a very alarming stat: Not a single goal scored by an Isles' defenseman up to this point in the season.
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Welcome back Craig Anderson.
And I can't stand Matt Cooke or Sean Avery but I'll give credit.....some pretty goals have been scored. Especially by Cooke who seems bent on reinventing himself ala Rik Tochett.
If they play like that, I've got all the respect in the world for them.
Time to settle in for the Vancouver-Islanders game......(It's funny how the Islanders offense was not supposed to be the problem this year.....)
The Islanders don't belong on the same ice with the Canucks. Just terrible. The announcers pointed out a very alarming stat: Not a single goal scored by an Isles' defenseman up to this point in the season.
This isn't true.
I know at least Mark Streit has one.
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Waaaaay to go Avalanche Marketing team. ::)
(https://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/editorial_image/5d/5d2f26671bf80a1d8fc41bedf5644e6b/puck_headlines_sid_crosby_return_possibility_blues_coach_fallout.jpg)
I believe that is a TV commercial I see on the NHL network...but it is not team specific. Probably each team puts team specific info on it. I dont see what is wrong with the commercial. It raises awareness that it is not just a sport for boys. At least it isnt up to a certain level ;)
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It's more along the lines of "its funny because it almost reads like the Avalanche are a team of girls"... doesn't really need more explanation than that.
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It's more along the lines of "its funny because it almost reads like the Avalanche are a team of girls"... doesn't really need more explanation than that.
Ahhh....didnt see it from that angle. It is kind of funny when you think of it that way :lol
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I have Flyers games to go to on Thursday and the following Monday. I is excite. But first another win tonight against a team we can always seem to beat.
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Lucic vs. Miller. LOL. Good stuff
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Lucic vs. Miller. LOL. Good stuff
Did you see the swing Miller took with his stick when he was down? Lucky he didn't connect.
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I showed that to my 8 year old about 5 times in replay.
THAT was suspension worthy...fucking intent right there....damn 15 pound battle axe.
Im mostly with Lucic on this one. His funny little smirk in his interview was great stuff. Seriously, mess with the bull....get the horns. I don't want to play conspiracy theorist but I'd bet money that Miller's concussion is of the "phantom" variety. He was/is playing like crap, it's an easy way to give him a break AND try and get Lucic suspended. Ooops their bit of gamesmanship didn't work. Lindey Ruff's comments were exactly what I expected. Should make for an interesting re-match in a couple weeks.
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Lindey should have gone after Lucic durring the game. He and the team blew it. It sent a bad message about the team just like we did when Cooke killed Savard.
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Even though it is against the rules, I had no problem with Lucic's hit on Miller. I am tired of goalies getting treated like royalty to where you get a penalty if you breathe on them, even when they are way out of the crease. Sorry, but if they come out of their damn crease, they should be fair game to be hit, just like the rest of the players on the ice.
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Even though it is against the rules, I had no problem with Lucic's hit on Miller. I am tired of goalies getting treated like royalty to where you get a penalty if you breathe on them, even when they are way out of the crease. Sorry, but if they come out of their damn crease, they should be fair game to be hit, just like the rest of the players on the ice.
They aren't fair game under the rules.
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Still, it was a good call by the league not to suspend Lucic. He didn't follow through and railroad Miller. He could have since he was at full speed.
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Agreed. A suspension would have been ridiculous. He didn't lower his shoulder or put any extra force into it. He simply skated right into him, which is charging (the penalty he got).
Goalies are like quarterbacks in football: might as well put a dress on them. :lol
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Amen. Even though I have brady as a QB I miss the good old days when a defense could be more agressive.
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Lets see him run Emery like that.
Razor will light him up.
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Leaving shortly to watch Bryz kick some Coyote ass.
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Leaving shortly to watch Bryz kick some Coyote ass.
This should be a very interesting game.
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I was at the Tampa vs pens game today, great atmosphere, love the huge Tesla coils, they are so badass, and the organ rules. Great to see roli humiliate the pens basically by himself with no help from his defense.
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Goalies at both ends had great games, but my new BFF Read ended up with a big goal in a great game. :D
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Sens get it done again out west.
Very good.
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8 wins in a row. Now for a lot of road games and I think it will be good for the team to gel on the road.
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8 wins in a row. Now for a lot of road games and I think it will be good for the team to gel on the road.
They played very sloppy last night. I assume Rask will get the Isles on Saturday and Thomas will get the Habs and Sabres. Can't wait for that game in Buffalo next week.
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Last 2 games have been sloppy but good teams win games when they are not playing to their capability. that's why I think the road will be good for them right now. No distractions from home.
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Leafs are suddenly in need of a goalie.
They'll need to fight Columbus for whoever they are after.
Turco?
Gerber...lol..he's in the swedish equivalent of the the ECHL.
Belfour looked ok at the HHOF ceremony.
Surely the Flyers have a roladex of goalies for people to call.
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Was Mark Howe really a Hall Of Famer?
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Checking out of the westin Tampa today, stayed there with the penguins but didnt see them around. On my check out, the lady at desk had a bunch of envelopes with Zach parise written on top, heart is broken.
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Went to my first Blues game of the year last night. Our group of nine had waaaaaaaaay too much fun. Blues win again!! :coolio :coolio :coolio
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Was Brian Elliot in nets for that one?
I feel bad for how it finished for him in Ottawa.
I think he was the second last drafted player of his year.....and Halak wasn't much higher.
When he was 13 Elliot told his dad "I'm done"....and his dad who'd invested all the time and money into his hockey was shocked....."no dad not done playing hockey, done playing out...I want to be a goalie."
"Why son"
"because goalies never have to come off the ice"
smart kid...I wish him nothing but success in St.Louis..he's a great guy.
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I think the Panthers are a great story this year, but being in such a non-traditional market, they are largely ignored.
They lost Vokoun and got Theodore, and a rookie that is pretty good. Dumped half of the team and management/coaching.
Dineen is going to be a good coach, and Tallon is putting things together the right way.
It is early in the season, but I see them getting better and gelling more as a team as time goes by.
Southeast GP W L OTL Pts GF GA Home Road L10
Washington 17 10 6 1 21 57 49 6-1-1 4-5-0 3-6-1
Florida 18 9 6 3 21 53 46 2-2-3 7-4-0 4-3-3
Tampa Bay 18 9 7 2 20 52 56 6-1-0 3-6-2 6-4-0
Winnipeg 19 7 9 3 17 52 61 4-3-0 3-6-3 4-4-2
Carolina 19 6 10 3 15 46 67 4-4-1 2-6-2 3-7-0
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Yeah we are having a nice problem right now in St Louis in picking which goalie should start because they are both playing great. Firing Davis Payne sent a charge into Halak and Elliot is just nails every time he plays. I'm digging how 'Hitch' (as they refer to him in the paper and broadcasts) has the Blues playing at the moment. I hope it is a sustained deal and not just a honeymoon period.
I like Halak but I think the dude is a head case. I just get a real good feeling from Elliot.
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Teams playing better after a coach firing is actually a proven phenomenon. I'm honestly surprised it doesn't happen more often.
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Only took Crosby three shifts to score his first goal back.
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Only took Crosby three shifts to score his first goal back.
And then assists, amazing stuff. It's great to see him back, and beginning to climb the scoring/points charts already
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The Islanders gave him that first goal. Seriously, they could not have played it any poorer.
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Mark Howe is not a Hall of Famer and I think it's time the Islanders fire Capuano.
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9 in a row. Nice shutout in Montreal tonight thanks to Timmy!!
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Kings (3-2 OT)
Columbus (9-2 W)
Coyotes (2-1 W)
Hurricanes (4-2 L)
Bruins (12/17)
Alumni Game (12/31)
Rangers (Winter Classic) (1/2)
Chicago (1/5)
Red Wings (3/6)
Penguins (3/18)
Saw my first regulation loss of the season last night, abyssal game against the Canes. JVR who has been lacking all season seemed to be the only one to show up last night. Bryz had a horrid game and the puck was bouncing on us for the entire 3rd period.
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Mark Howe is not a Hall of Famer and I think it's time the Islanders fire Capuano.
There's more things wrong with the Islanders than just the head coach, but I'm pretty sure Capuano will be the sacrifical lamb.
They went for the lowest common denominator when it came to trying to improve the team in the offseason. The Panthers land Kris Versteeg, Tomas Fleischmann and Brian Campbell. Who do the Isles get? Aging training camp rejects and perennial fourth-liners in Jay Pandolfo, Brian Rolston and Marty Reasoner. :\
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Not the greatest competition, but it certainly didn't take long for Crosby to show that he's in good form already.
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10 in a row!! Great fights tonight. Lucic & Chara dominating both.
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Should probably write here more often, only think I've written once earlier. :P
Anyhow, great to see Crosby back (I'm a Pittsburgh-fan since ages ago), and while I don't get the opportunity to watch many games here (they are often shown on TV, but in the middle of the night), I try to follow results and such.
So yeah, gogo Penguins!
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10 in a row!! Great fights tonight. Lucic & Chara dominating both.
Sabres just don't have anyone in their line up.
Though..I suspect they could probably pry Matty Carkner from the Sens for not much more than a third rounder.
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10 in a row!! Great fights tonight. Lucic & Chara dominating both.
Sabres just don't have anyone in their line up.
Though..I suspect they could probably pry Matty Carkner from the Sens for not much more than a third rounder.
True. We are lucky enough to have guys that can play and fight. Hell our fighter, Thornton had 10 goals and 10 assists last year.
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10 in a row!! Great fights tonight. Lucic & Chara dominating both.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o26UsCS7EQo&feature=related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=526Vrh5PsDo
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Awesome fight TAC!! :metal
Milbury had a mean side to him.
My brother is going to the B's vs Wings today. Great turkey day game to go to.
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Found this one too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGrjXuTr7MU&feature=related
Neely must've been having flashbacks and smiling when Lucic hit Miller.
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Tough Shoot Out loss to the Wings. A great game nonetheless.
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Tough Shoot Out loss to the Wings. A great game nonetheless.
Yup. At least it was a great game and loosing to a great team on a shootout after a 10 game winning streak and still get a point is fine by me.
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It is sad the Panthers arent a bigger story. After a huge season re-vamping, they will be tied for 1st (I think) in the East.
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It is sad the Panthers arent a bigger story. After a huge season re-vamping, they will be tied for 1st (I think) in the East.
I was looking at the standing and I was shocked to see this. Under the radar for sure. Nice to see a team turn it around so far.
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The new Islanders jerseys are an abomination.
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Mark Howe is not a Hall of Famer and I think it's time the Islanders fire Capuano.
There's more things wrong with the Islanders than just the head coach, but I'm pretty sure Capuano will be the sacrifical lamb.
They went for the lowest common denominator when it came to trying to improve the team in the offseason. The Panthers land Kris Versteeg, Tomas Fleischmann and Brian Campbell. Who do the Isles get? Aging training camp rejects and perennial fourth-liners in Jay Pandolfo, Brian Rolston and Marty Reasoner. :\
For the most part, I think most of the players have just tuned him out. When that happens, there is little choice. I'd agree he's tried just about anything.
I don't have much of a problem with who they brought in (except maybe Reasoner). They aren't the problem and they bring in veteran leadership while still leaving enough ice time for the young guys to play. I don't think the guys you mentioned are worth the money they signed for (I'm kind of in the Lou Lamoriello school that way).
Clearly they need a few quick puck-moving defensemen (Who doesn't?). I thought not resigning Jack Hillen was a mistake. I didn't mind not signing Radek Martinek due mostly to his injury history (aside from last year) but it seems pretty obvious they miss him a little too.
The ship has to be turned around in the next week or two or they are toast. I can understand a bad break here and there, but not too many are competing like they should.
antigoon:
The new Islanders jerseys are an abomination.
No. They are worse.
I've already decided I'm not even watching the games when they wear them.
Pitiful. Just like their play of late.
I wonder how long before this house of cards falls down?
https://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/peltz_power_play_VrtUwZ8Jk6jy72On4QSf0I
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There isn't much reason to watch them no matter what they're wearing. (islanders fan since 1980)
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devils are back to their old school bizarre ways, best in PK by far, something like 40/40 at home, but worst on PP, and even have 5 SHGs against. Damn offense, where the fcuk are you?
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lolvelchuk.
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Well that's one hell of a month Bruins. 12-0-1 Out of 26 points, You've got 25. Unreal.
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Guess Boudreau can step out of that unemployed line.
Ouch Randy Carlyle.....3 more years I think on his deal.
...I'd love to see the Sens pull a "Leafs-get Kessel" move and offer their next two first round picks for Bobby Ryan. He's worth it. The cupboard is full, we don't need the picks. And...AND...in any other year Ryan would have been first over all....except some kid named Sid came along that day.
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I suppose this is mildly surprising...
https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=382060
REPORT: BOOGAARD HAD DEGENERATIVE BRAIN CONDITION
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Man what a fast, hard hitting chippy game between the B's and the Pens going on right now.
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Harry Zolnierczyk and Matt Walker
(https://www.nickeh.com/images/harryz.jpg)
And now one of my most prized possessions... a battle hardened stick signed by this years scoring champion, Claude fucking Giroux!!!
(https://www.nickeh.com/images/giroux.jpg)
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Soooo eastern teams will have 4/7 chance to make the playoffs while western teams will have 4/8 chance? Oh and what happens if Phx moves? I don't know about this realignment.
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I'll post more tomorrow, but in general I don't like the re-alignment.
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Soooo eastern teams will have 4/7 chance to make the playoffs while western teams will have 4/8 chance? Oh and what happens if Phx moves? I don't know about this realignment.
everybody else loved it....though I see where you're coming from.
How about those Sens...getting it done again.
They may in fact finish last as pundits predicted but...to draw 18,700 people on a rainy Tuesday against Tampa....and then WIN.....fantastic.
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Why the hell are the Florida teams in conferences with Canadian teams? Jesus this is some messed up alignment.
(https://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/editorial_image/77/775112738e5a45f50895aecef67caa33/how_does_the_new_nhl_realignment_impact_teams_travel.jpg)
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Snowbirds.
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Snowbirds.
:lol
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Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xH5N98ZIp84
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One of the biggest issues with any plan was that the division with some of the oldest and most rival filled teams (Atlantic) would be split up. None of those teams wanted to see that happen and that is why they simply added to that division. What pisses me off is that they've now added Washington to a division that has likely had more playoff teams in the last 10 years than any other. Pretty much every season the Flyers, Penguins, Devils and Rangers all have a great playoff shot. Now they add Washington and meanwhile the other Eastern block has only Buffalo and Boston with any consistency of power in recent years.
That aside I hate the fact that now we will only play 23 teams twice while 6 teams 6 times. Before it was a few opponents 6 times, rest of the conference 4, and West once or twice. That was nearly perfect, I would have liked to see either some division games or conference games taken down 1 to allow us to play every team twice, but that would have been a minor tweak.
I appreciate what this has done to help the Western teams, but at the end of the day it's completely unfair to them that they have a pretty distinct disadvantage when it comes to making the playoffs. They could have gone with 4 divisions and kept 2 conferences so the top 8 teams overall would still go.
I also HATE that the first two rounds of the playoffs will be within the division, HATE it. We are going to see those teams 6 fucking times during the season, I look forward to hopefully facing other teams in the playoffs. Now along with the Western teams we will only have ONE round in which to face an opponent outside the conference.
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I concur with nicks last paragraph the rest sounds like typical flyer bellyaching
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You'd think I'd like it but those damn Habs play us so tough in the playoffs.
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I like the idea of having four conferences set up like this, but having seven in two of them and eight in the other two is very unfair. It has to be an equal number in each conference.
As for not playing teams out of your conference as much, the advantage there is new rivalries will get built quickly because of familiarity and playing each other so much. Look at the non-natural rivalries like Detroit/Colorado in the 90s or Vancouver/Chicago in recent years.
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I concur with nicks last paragraph the rest sounds like typical flyer bellyaching
So the next to last paragraph about how we have an unfair chance of making the playoffs compared to Western teams is somehow bellyaching?
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*Old man voice*
I remember when we always play the divisional teams in the Adams division.
Old man .....OUT!
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devils PK: 62/63, decent i guess. now we can go back to the winning ways and build on the 2 PP goals we scored on the Leafs.
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I concur with nicks last paragraph the rest sounds like typical flyer bellyaching
So the next to last paragraph about how we have an unfair chance of making the playoffs compared to Western teams is somehow bellyaching?
There isn't enough server space here to list all the thing the Flyers have found reason to complain about over the years. You can't please all of the people all of the time, but the Flyers (I guarantee are one of the 4 who voted against reallignment) can't be pleased ANY of the time. "We don't like your style of defense so we refuse to play"--Seriously??? A better question senior Nick, might be why Flyers ownership/management chose Chris Pronger over Carter/Richards. Granted the latter two have done SQUAT in their new homes, but Pronger hasn't played much either lately, and unless the fountain of youth has sprung from within Philly's dressing room he'll be long gone when (probably Richards) will be sipping from the cup. Essentially you had a fantastic duo that took you to the final. Duo's like that....Crosby/Malkin, Ovechkin/Backstrom don't come along...they're drafted and grown. Instead, your team kept the Dinosaur Pilon (albeit a career WINNER) but still. Wrong move. And then went and paid huge money for a goalie....and once again...you have suspicious goaltending. All of these things, are much more complaint worthy then your odds of being one of the 4/7 in arguably the weakest division of the four.
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I don't see how any of what you said in most of that has anything to do with why the Flyers would vote against this new re-alignment. From the clubs perspective it's perfect, kept all the rivalries and even cut down on some travel to some old conference foes. The only reason you think the Flyers voted against this is because you're obviously looking for reasons to bitch about the Flyers, which is funny as you accuse the Flyers at looking for things to bitch about.
And weakest conference of the four? LOL.
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I was thinking about the Phoenix and since they are in the western conference I guess that lays to rest that they are moving. Maybe I'm wrong but it feels that way.
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they vote against anything they think even remotely impacts them negatively..regardless of it being for the good of the league...funny the rest of the league could see the forest. The point was they complain non stop....about everything.
rangers (their current success is a figment)
carolina
Isles
devils...are..on a downward slope right at the end of a cycle not midway through or on the upswing of the next despite what their fans might think
the capitals are THIS close to blowing it up...underachieving euros, suspicious goaltending and off injured defense, they have the gritty role players....oh and a rooky nostalgic coach.
weak
weaker
weakest
irrelevant
I actually like the Flyers position in that division.
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not sure if you are following, but henrique and larsson are in the mix for calder, and with parise signed, we can finish off the devils 'rebuild' and go back up, i think this was rock bottom last year and we are better this year, and we don't even have zajac back yet.
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No one besides Nugent-Hopkins is in the mix for the Calder right now.
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Sean Couturier and Matt Read have been just as strong as any other rookie out there.
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Florida Panthers? Yes. Florida Panthers.
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Florida Panthers? Yes. Florida Panthers.
Jose Theodore with 38 save and there were at least a 18 quality scoring chances.
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Florida Panthers? Yes. Florida Panthers.
Jose Theodore with 38 save and there were at least a 18 quality scoring chances.
This just shows that they can find ways to win in tight games, games against more talented / really hot teams, or games they are outplayed in. Winning these types of games are important, and really are an indicator of a good team.
This teams huge turnaround is a story largely ignored. Now they are getting healthy and will only gel more. Theodores showing tonight shows he is a legit replacement for Vokoun, and has enough game to take them deep. This team is for real. Good goaltending, good 1st line talent, scoring from the blu-liners, grit, and able to win tough games and grind things out. They are legit, and a bit of a shock the turnaround from last year....and the last ten years.
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It's getting to the point I almost want Montreal to do bad so we get as much encouragement as possible to get Martin outta here.
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Say hello to your conference leading Philadelphia Flyers.
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Bigger story....Florida Panthers tied for 2nd in the conference.
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come from 3-0 behind, showin up the flyers hehehe. PK is 66/68, 39/40 at home.
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Im glad I didn't get on here after the first and talk shit.
Still..the "cardiac kids" made it interesting at the end.
Your team...is not healthy Zero. They look completely uninterested in playing the game of hockey.
Seriously.
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come from 3-0 behind, showin up the flyers hehehe. PK is 66/68, 39/40 at home.
We had a back to back series, and we came back from 3-0 the night prior, so I'd say we're doing alright. :p
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I guess it was due to Pujols bailing on St. Louis.....but I just got a look at the Blues bandwagon and it is overflowing!! Very excited about the Blues and how well Hitchcock has them playing. 11-2-2 since he's been named the Coach. Just anxious to watch the season unfold and see if they stay all in on his philosophy or not. One things for sure....they are playing pretty well at the moment.
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Say hello to your conference leading Philadelphia Flyers.
Hi, say hello to your new room mate at the top of the conference, the Florida Panthers.
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I guess we'll see if this holds up in April...
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I guess it was due to Pujols bailing on St. Louis.....but I just got a look at the Blues bandwagon and it is overflowing!! Very excited about the Blues and how well Hitchcock has them playing. 11-2-2 since he's been named the Coach. Just anxious to watch the season unfold and see if they stay all in on his philosophy or not. One things for sure....they are playing pretty well at the moment.
Being a lifelong fan here, this has been exciting as hell to watch since Hitchcock took over; it's the most I've been excited about the Blues since the lockout (although the playoff push a few years back was awesome; the first round sweep at the hands of the Canucks, not so much :(). A bunch of us went on Thursday (11 to be exact) and saw them beat the Ducks 4-2. A good time was had by all, And then ANOTHER shutout by Elliot last night against the Sharks. Halak had better be careful or he will be out of a starting job if Elliot keeps this up! :tup :tup
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Travis Zajac returning to the lineup tonight for the Niedermayer night, this is going to be a hell of a game to go to, i'm excite.
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I guess it was due to Pujols bailing on St. Louis.....but I just got a look at the Blues bandwagon and it is overflowing!! Very excited about the Blues and how well Hitchcock has them playing. 11-2-2 since he's been named the Coach. Just anxious to watch the season unfold and see if they stay all in on his philosophy or not. One things for sure....they are playing pretty well at the moment.
Being a lifelong fan here, this has been exciting as hell to watch since Hitchcock took over; it's the most I've been excited about the Blues since the lockout (although the playoff push a few years back was awesome; the first round sweep at the hands of the Canucks, not so much :(). A bunch of us went on Thursday (11 to be exact) and saw them beat the Ducks 4-2. A good time was had by all, And then ANOTHER shutout by Elliot last night against the Sharks. Halak had better be careful or he will be out of a starting job if Elliot keeps this up! :tup :tup
It was nice to see them take it to the Rangers last night with the HBO crew in town! :biggrin: They are just playing real well...no doubt about it that they've bought into whatever Hitchcock is selling. And Ellitot....again....I don't see how you don't start him 95% of the time. Sorry Halak but you're going to be the highest paid backup for a while.
I'm a life long fan as well and that 's why I guess I'm so nervous about being so excited for the Blues and about the Blues. They are the Blues...ya know? This is reminiscent of the 2000 season when they led the league in points then crapped a big one in the playoffs. But sooner or later you'd think they will make a good solid run.
They have the gritty players to do it and are essentially playing playoff hockey....so I'm gonna ride the train as long as it is going!
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Say hello to your conference leading Philadelphia Flyers.
Hi, say hello to your new room mate at the top of the conference, the Florida Panthers.
Obviously it must be bizarro day or something.
*checks standings*
The fuck? Yeah, the Panthers year has really been something, especially considering the loss of Vokoun.
In any case I'm looking forward to Saturday when I'll be at the Flyers game where they take on some other schmucks from the league.
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You've got some big losses. I know you've been dealing with Pronger basically since last year and now with him gone for the year and the loss of Claude Giroux is huge but the Flyers have been playing great.
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I'm glad Pronger is gone, I hope he just retires so we have the 6 million to work with. He hasn't been even close to worth it the last two years. Not only is he getting old, but with regular injuries he has gotten into zero rhythm.
Claude being out is a huge loss, but I think Sean Couturier is a great young kid and the top line has still been doing great with him up there. Still, aside from the Penguins this game is easily the one I'm most concerned about since this streak started.
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Two things hockey related... first I posted in funny thread as well
"PLAYER KICKED OUT OF LEAGUE FOR DEFECATING IN OPPONENT'S GLOVE FOLLOWING A FIGHT ON THE ICE."
https://deadspin.com/5868584/how-a-senior-league-hockey-fight-ended-with-one-player-pooping-in-an-opponents-glove
And..
NBC analyst Mike Milbury charged with assaulting child
https://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/NBC-analyst-Mike-Milbury-charged-with-assaulting?urn=nhl-wp20037&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
What the heck Mike... what did you do?
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Yeah, I'm with you on Pronger. The man has been too injured since the Flyers signed him.
The B's have had a rash of injuries of late and the coach, even though we are winning, is on them for poor play. Allowing 40+ shots that last 3 games is just plain bad. Somehow we've won those games which says alot about Timmy and Tukka.
WTF Mike!!!! :omg:
Edit: Reading that I might wait to pass jugdement until I more comes out.
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up to 5 years in prison for assaulting a child in mass, fingers crossed.
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The details aren't very clear as to the seriousness of the "assault".
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Assault: 5 years
Assault with a shoe: Priceless
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YES! JACQUES MARTIN FIRED! :gadough:
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hope we can spank the habs at home tonight to make up for last saturday. like really destroy their coachless asses.
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Nick is not going to be happy. B's killed the Flyers today in Philly. Chara with the Gordie Howe hat trick.
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devils are quietly climbing up to 6th place, no one will see us coming, no one.
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Wild scores in the league tonight!
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Spidey, What did you think of the Turris trade?
Did Murray give up too much or was it the right thing to do?
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Too much, imo.
But with these deals one can never tell. High risk, high reward. It's why they don't often get made.
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Spidey, What did you think of the Turris trade?
Did Murray give up too much or was it the right thing to do?
I had that trade a month ago and in my prediction he gave up Lee and next year's first rounder.
Turris could be very good. Rundbladt didn't do it for me. He was weird timing and that's what makes him effective offensively. He'll hit too, he's just not ready for the NHL yet. I like the deal. Because Buttler hasn't done squat this season. I just hope they don't bump Foligno. I like him where he is.
Jacques Martin was and IS NOT the problem in Montreal. The GM has not drafted, traded, or signed well. He's gots to go...and firing a coach as good as Martin is indicative of a last ditch desperation move.
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Looks like taking Theodore over Vokoun wasnt such a bad move after all, as quite a few here said. Obviously it is early, but I feel good about the Panthers making the playoffs for the first time in over a decade.
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Ray freeking Emery.
damn.
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So folks. You going to see this?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsujiMaexyE&feature=player_embedded
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I'm in Ottawa for the holidays and my cousin had extra tickets so I got to see Turris' first game with the Senators tonight. His play wasn't perfect but he did notch an assist on the game-winning goal (Ottawa beat Buffalo 4-1). It was my first time at an NHL game in three years. I'm a Flames fan first and foremost, but it's always nice to see my hometown team win.
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Watched it on TV GL.
I live about 2 miles from the Bank.
new clock coming too!!
yay!
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So folks. You going to see this?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsujiMaexyE&feature=player_embedded
I'll wait for the DVD
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https://video.mapleleafs.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=143811&cmpid=nhl-rxl-fb
Tebowing in the NHL ahahaha
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walked into get some goods from the nhl store and bettman was talking to the media, god i hate that asshole.
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Here Zero.
https://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7352942/waiting-science
Have a beer and relax.
Great game by the Sens last night.
Stupid Rangers.
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So folks. You going to see this?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsujiMaexyE&feature=player_embedded
A modern day fusion of Youngblood and Slap Shot?
Not a chance!
(That reminds me, I've been wanting to kick back and put Slap Shot on anyway....)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdJp5-g69go&sns=fb
Don Cherry's Piano Man
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Went to the alumni game yesterday, what a cool experience. I didn't realize the baseball field holds over double of what our hockey arena does, there was a metric shit ton of people there. They did a great job with the event and it was really cool to be a part of. As my favorite Flyers growing up were Recchi, LeClair and Desjardins it was really awesome to see LeClair knock home the first goal with an assist from Lindros and Recchi. Looking forward to heading back down tomorrow for the classic!
Kings (3-2 OT)
Columbus (9-2 W)
Coyotes (2-1 W)
Hurricanes (4-2 L)
Bruins (6-0 L)
Alumni Game (3-1 W)
Rangers (Winter Classic) (1/2)
Chicago (1/5)
Red Wings (3/6)
Penguins (3/18)
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devils look like their old selves eventhough people don't realize. i really hope we take the 5th or 6th place so we don't get attention. i wouldn't be surprised if we make a deep run in the playoffs this year.
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Devils won't win a cup as long as they have Kovalchuk.
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Nick, do you think the NHL did the right thing by having the Winter Classic on a Monday night? I know about the NFL weekend but it seems a bit off to me.
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My buddy and co-owner of season ticket package texts me two hours before the Sens v.s. Calgary game and says "so..you drivin or am I". Oops I'd forgot I was going....Alfy gets his 400th as the overtime winner before capacity 20,500 amazing.
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Devils won't win a cup as long as they have Kovalchuk.
Or at least if they get get him to play less than 23 minutes a game and take shorter shifts like everyone else.
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Nick, do you think the NHL did the right thing by having the Winter Classic on a Monday night? I know about the NFL weekend but it seems a bit off to me.
No. It's been on New Years Eve and should have stayed there. I understand why they did it, but it was taking away from purity for money's sake. I was also mega pissed they fucked over the greatest anthem singer in the game, Lauren Hart in order to give the national TV spotlight to some grammy nominated pop bitch that probably didn't give 2 shits about hockey.
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Nick, do you think the NHL did the right thing by having the Winter Classic on a Monday night? I know about the NFL weekend but it seems a bit off to me.
No. It's been on New Years Eve and should have stayed there. I understand why they did it, but it was taking away from purity for money's sake. I was also mega pissed they fucked over the greatest anthem singer in the game, Lauren Hart in order to give the national TV spotlight to some grammy nominated pop bitch that probably didn't give 2 shits about hockey.
Didn't you watch the Alumni game? THAT's where it was at.
I don't think the game was ever on New Year's Eve.
It seems your eyes were opened to how Bettman and company do things, Nick.
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Sorry, I had meant New Years Day.
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https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/goon-flyers-fan-brags-beat-n-article-1.1001211
Typical Philly fan and the idiot is stupid enough to boost about it
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4 Sens voted to the game nobody cares about.
I have club seats for tonight's game against Tampa.
(sweet)
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https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/goon-flyers-fan-brags-beat-n-article-1.1001211
Typical Philly fan and the idiot is stupid enough to boost about it
I read that. What an ass.
4 Sens voted to the game nobody cares about.
I have club seats for tonight's game against Tampa.
(sweet)
So you remembered you had a game this time. :lol
Also, good to see the B's wake up against the Devils last night. It seems we have a hard time when we play the Stars down in Dallas.
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that was some hardcore rapage last night from the b's kings. we dominated for 10mins, then just took it hard after the tying goal. oh well, b's are the best team in hockey right now.
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Thanks ZGF. I just hope they are not peeking too early. The good thing is that we've only played 36 games so far this season. Tied with San Jose I think and that's an advantage.
I was worried seeing the first ten minute but the B's are a great road team. I just worry because most night everybody will bring their A game when playing the Cup holders.
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OK. Holy S!! 9-0 midway through the 3rd. Man the B's are at another level right now.
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Yeah, no question the Bruins are fucking on fire right now. I am hoping and praying they cool off before returning to Philly since I'll be at that game. I was also at the game tonight, great offensive effort to top the Hawks 5-4.
At Game Record: 3-3-1
Kings (3-2 OT)
Columbus (9-2 W)
Coyotes (2-1 W)
Hurricanes (4-2 L)
Bruins (6-0 L)
Alumni Game (3-1 W)
Rangers (Winter Classic) (3-2 L)
Chicago (5-4 W)
Bruins (1/22)
Red Wings (3/6)
Penguins (3/18)
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OK. Holy S!! 9-0 midway through the 3rd. Man the B's are at another level right now.
That was a devastating game for Calgary... :/
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How soft is Roberto Luongo that he's not starting the game against the B's. What kind of message does that send to the other players?
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How soft is Roberto Luongo that he's not starting the game against the B's. What kind of message does that send to the other players?
He's not? You're kidding. Is he hurt? You'd think that would be a game that he would insist on playing.
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How soft is Roberto Luongo that he's not starting the game against the B's. What kind of message does that send to the other players?
He's not? You're kidding. Is he hurt? You'd think that would be a game that he would insist on playing.
He didn't get his tires pumped so he's sulking. :lol
But seriously, their coach knows this guy is mentally fragile.
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Sounds like the coach is mentally fragile. No wonder the team has no balls.
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LOLongo. He's done, they should trade him to the Isles where goalies go back to die.
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So far this year a shot is 35% more likely to go in on Brodeur (0.888) than it is on Luongo (0.917).
If there's a veteran goalie who's "done" in this league, I would look towards New Jersey rather than Vancouver.
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And New Jersey is more screwed as Vancouver has a better backup.
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Luongo is the most underrated goalie in the league. He was the best goalie of the '00s and got no respect for it, and has remained an elite netminder as he's aged. That people think he's garbage, or "done," or what have you, is ludicrous.
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And New Jersey is more screwed as Vancouver has a better backup.
pretty sure hedberg would be a number one goalie in many teams around the league.
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Pretty sure Schneider would make a better #1 goalie.
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Luongo is the most underrated goalie in the league. He was the best goalie of the '00s and got no respect for it, and has remained an elite netminder as he's aged. That people think he's garbage, or "done," or what have you, is ludicrous.
Except the man is a head case and would rule the NHL if he didn't get in the way of himself. You did watch the finals GP Right?! You saw all the things he said and how he played on the road right?! The man is a nut case.
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Pretty sure Schneider would make a better #1 goalie.
I'd put money on it.
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I'm happy that the NHLPA shot down the realignment. I really didn't like it... but worried how this might affect the upcoming CBA negotiations.
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So Winnipeg's stuck in the Southeast for another year? That's ridiculous.
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The fuck? I'm glad that realignment has been shot down, but the two parties should have at least agreed to have Columbus and Winnipeg switch divisions for next season.
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Luongo is the most underrated goalie in the league. He was the best goalie of the '00s and got no respect for it, and has remained an elite netminder as he's aged. That people think he's garbage, or "done," or what have you, is ludicrous.
That is absurd. He won zero Stanley Cups and zero Vezina trophies in the 00s. Brodeur was the best of the 00s, without a doubt.
Anyway, a group of 12 of us went to last night's Blues game, and it was a helluva game. After trailing 3-2 after two, they came back in the 3rd to win 4-3 over the Oilers. And that place was rocking like mad! And it was pretty packed, too, which is nice to see again. This is the third game in like a month or so that a big group of us have gone, and each time the place is more packed. Winning does that. :)
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Perhaps Luongo has had an underrated career, and I know the Boston fans are razzing him. I'm not jumping on that bandwagon, but I just don't know how he doesn't INSIST on playing this game today. There are some players who simply would not allow it. That's all I'm saying...
And speaking of Broduer, he's one of my all time favorite players, but he looked absolutely lost in the game against Boston this week.
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I'm happy that the NHLPA shot down the realignment. I really didn't like it... but worried how this might affect the upcoming CBA negotiations.
I agree 100%. And the league seems to be the ones being dicks about it. All the players said was "give us a sample schedule, show us how it's going to work" for such a massive overhaul, that the league was unwilling and unable is unacceptable.
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Luongo is the most underrated goalie in the league. He was the best goalie of the '00s and got no respect for it, and has remained an elite netminder as he's aged. That people think he's garbage, or "done," or what have you, is ludicrous.
Except the man is a head case and would rule the NHL if he didn't get in the way of himself. You did watch the finals GP Right?! You saw all the things he said and how he played on the road right?! The man is a nut case.
So was Patrick Roy. He was a good goalie right? Did he have any bad games (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsiUJQVIV94)?
Luongo is the most underrated goalie in the league. He was the best goalie of the '00s and got no respect for it, and has remained an elite netminder as he's aged. That people think he's garbage, or "done," or what have you, is ludicrous.
That is absurd. He won zero Stanley Cups and zero Vezina trophies in the 00s. Brodeur was the best of the 00s, without a doubt.
He won zero Stanley Cups because he had no good teams, and won no Vezinas because the voters were dumb (2004 and 2007 at the least should have been locks). When you look at performance, Luongo was significantly above Brodeur:
Goalies from '99-00 to '08-09 ranked by ES Sv% (from here (https://brodeurisafraud.blogspot.com/2009/07/goalie-of-decade.html))
Roy
Luongo (0.929)
Hasek
Vokoun
Giguere
Lundqvist
Burke
Fernandez
Kiprusoff
Nabokov
Turco
Brodeur (0.922)
And ditto for playoff ES Sv%
Fernandez
Giguere
Luongo (0.936)
Hasek
Roy
Kiprusoff
Miller
Turco
Brodeur (0.930)
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I'm calling you out GP on your hockey knowledge if your comparing Roy with Luongo. Roy was mentally tough on the ice Luongo isn't. I'm not saying he's a bad goalie. I think he is up there but imagine if he could put that fragile ego aside and be mentally tough. That's why I'm on him.
TAC has it right in his last post. Also think of why the coach won't play him. That speaks volumes.
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I'm calling you out GP on your hockey knowledge if your comparing Roy with Luongo. Roy was mentally tough on the ice Luongo isn't. I'm not saying he's a bad goalie. I think he is up there but imagine if he could put that fragile ego aside and be mentally tough. That's why I'm on him.
TAC has it right in his last post. Also think of why the coach won't play him. That speaks volumes.
You need to learn a basic logical fallacy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_attribution_error).
Roy was mentally tough, but Luongo isn't? You can be the best goalie in the world for numerous years without being mentally tough?
And seriously, you bring up Luongo's ego in a comparison between him and Roy? Roy had one of the largest egos of any professional athlete. You can't be serious.
If we're going to lay the blanket, all-encompassing, permanent marker of "mentally weak" on goalies who have had playoff breakdowns, than nearly every goalie who's played a significant sample of playoff games is mentally weak. Roy, Hasek, Brodeur, Belfour, Joseph, Lundqvist, Price, Fleury, Quick, Niemi, Kiprusoff, Bryzgalov, etc.
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I just became a hockey fan this past week after going to the canadiens and jets game in montreal. Woo!
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I just became a hockey fan this past week after going to the canadiens and jets game in montreal. Woo!
Yeah, that game was pretty excellent.
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GP, please do not compare Luongo to a legend like Roy. TIA.
And for those numbers you posted, you do realize that Brodeur faced nearly five times as many shots as Luongo in the playoffs, right? That makes Luongo's slightly better save percentage not nearly as impressive. It is like comparing a pitcher with an ERA of 2.15 over 40 innings pitched to one with an ERA of 2.27 over 190 innings pitched; the latter's numbers are more impressive, simply because sustaining that kind of greatness over a longer period of time and with more work is always gonna be more impressive.
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GP, please do not compare Luongo to a legend like Roy. TIA.
I don't see why not.
And for those numbers you posted, you do realize that Brodeur faced nearly five times as many shots as Luongo in the playoffs, right? That makes Luongo's slightly better save percentage not nearly as impressive. It is like comparing a pitcher with an ERA of 2.15 over 40 innings pitched to one with an ERA of 2.27 over 190 innings pitched; the latter's numbers are more impressive, simply because sustaining that kind of greatness over a longer period of time and with more work is always gonna be more impressive.
Well, Luongo has sustained that. His career playoff EV Sv% is 0.933, still beating out Brodeur's for the decade in question. Even with a larger sample it shows that Luongo's playoff performance is similar to that of his regular season performance.
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I'm fine if GP wants to take the position that statistically Luongo is on par with Roy or Broduer. He's technically right, but I think the point is..if your team is in Game 7 of the finals and on your roster you have Roy, Broduer, and Luongo, I'm pretty sure I know who'll be in street clothes watching from the press box.
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I'm fine if GP wants to take the position that statistically Luongo is on par with Roy or Broduer. He's technically right, but I think the point is..if your team is in Game 7 of the finals and on your roster you have Roy, Broduer, and Luongo, I'm pretty sure I know who'll be in street clothes watching from the press box.
I'd pick Roy. He's the best of the three. In a single game, anything can happen, but the odds of getting the best performance are highest if you play the best goalie. Ironically, despite his "clutch" reputation, Roy has a losing record in game 7s.
Next I'd pick Luongo, because he's the second best goalie. Then I'd pick Brodeur.
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GP, please do not compare Luongo to a legend like Roy. TIA.
I don't see why not.
Comparing Luongo to Roy is like comparing Dwayne Wade to Michael Jordan. One is certainly among the best of his generation, but the other is generally considered the best ever by almost everyone.
And for those numbers you posted, you do realize that Brodeur faced nearly five times as many shots as Luongo in the playoffs, right? That makes Luongo's slightly better save percentage not nearly as impressive. It is like comparing a pitcher with an ERA of 2.15 over 40 innings pitched to one with an ERA of 2.27 over 190 innings pitched; the latter's numbers are more impressive, simply because sustaining that kind of greatness over a longer period of time and with more work is always gonna be more impressive.
Well, Luongo has sustained that. His career playoff EV Sv% is 0.933, still beating out Brodeur's for the decade in question. Even with a larger sample it shows that Luongo's playoff performance is similar to that of his regular season performance.
Okay, but you were talking about who was the best in the 00s, so what Luongo has done since doesn't matter, since what he did from 2000-2009 is what matters when discussing who the best goalie was in that specific time period. And Luongo's sample size is too small in the playoffs for those years to compare with a guy like Brodeur. It really is that simple.
I'm fine if GP wants to take the position that statistically Luongo is on par with Roy or Broduer. He's technically right, but I think the point is..if your team is in Game 7 of the finals and on your roster you have Roy, Broduer, and Luongo, I'm pretty sure I know who'll be in street clothes watching from the press box.
Amen to that. Roy would get the edge over Brodeur, and then Luongo would be a very, very, very distant 3rd place.
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GP, please do not compare Luongo to a legend like Roy. TIA.
I don't see why not.
Comparing Luongo to Roy is like comparing Dwayne Wade to Michael Jordan. One is certainly among the best of his generation, but the other is generally considered the best ever by almost everyone.
I don't think Roy is the best. He's definitely up there, though. It's hard to compare the current incarnation of the NHL to past incarnations, but he's at least second amongst his generation.
I still don't see why it's wrong to compare Luongo and Roy. I don't think Luongo is as good as Roy, but how else do you come to that conclusion if you don't compare them?
And for those numbers you posted, you do realize that Brodeur faced nearly five times as many shots as Luongo in the playoffs, right? That makes Luongo's slightly better save percentage not nearly as impressive. It is like comparing a pitcher with an ERA of 2.15 over 40 innings pitched to one with an ERA of 2.27 over 190 innings pitched; the latter's numbers are more impressive, simply because sustaining that kind of greatness over a longer period of time and with more work is always gonna be more impressive.
Well, Luongo has sustained that. His career playoff EV Sv% is 0.933, still beating out Brodeur's for the decade in question. Even with a larger sample it shows that Luongo's playoff performance is similar to that of his regular season performance.
Okay, but you were talking about who was the best in the 00s, so what Luongo has done since doesn't matter, since what he did from 2000-2009 is what matters when discussing who the best goalie was in that specific time period. And Luongo's sample size is too small in the playoffs for those years to compare with a guy like Brodeur. It really is that simple.
Well, it would be a bit different if Luongo's stat was way out-of-the-ordinary (like Manny Fernandez's, for example), but the playoffs included are in line with his career performance. Luongo's overall performance during that decade was still appreciably better than Brodeur's.
I'm fine if GP wants to take the position that statistically Luongo is on par with Roy or Broduer. He's technically right, but I think the point is..if your team is in Game 7 of the finals and on your roster you have Roy, Broduer, and Luongo, I'm pretty sure I know who'll be in street clothes watching from the press box.
Amen to that. Roy would get the edge over Brodeur, and then Luongo would be a very, very, very distant 3rd place.
I don't buy what pundits would say. Luongo at his peak was a better goalie than Brodeur. I'd pick him to play in a pressure situation over him. Simple as that. The decision to go with Brodeur to begin with in 2010 was done so out of inertia rather than performance; Luongo absolutely deserved to be the starter for that tournament.
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GP. I know your thing is great players that haven't won a championship shouldn't be penilized. This isn't the case. Roy is before the generation of the trap yet he did play in it. He was unreal and as a B's fan I hate to say that. I look at like the yards passing in the NFL. What Marino did during his era is more impressive than what both QB's did this year to pass him. (Or is is 3?)
Luongo is a very good Goalie but not in the class of Roy and for you to argue makes no sense.
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GP. I know your thing is great players that haven't won a championship shouldn't be penilized. This isn't the case. Roy is before the generation of the trap yet he did play in it. He was unreal and as a B's fan I hate to say that. I look at like the yards passing in the NFL. What Marino did during his era is more impressive than what both QB's did this year to pass him. (Or is is 3?)
Luongo is a very good Goalie but not in the class of Roy and for you to argue makes no sense.
When did I say Luongo was as good as Roy?
There's a fairly significant gap between Roy and third place in terms of best goalies of the modern era. But there's also a significant gap between Roy and Hasek.
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4 power play goals for the Canucks :facepalm:
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GP. I know your thing is great players that haven't won a championship shouldn't be penilized. This isn't the case. Roy is before the generation of the trap yet he did play in it. He was unreal and as a B's fan I hate to say that. I look at like the yards passing in the NFL. What Marino did during his era is more impressive than what both QB's did this year to pass him. (Or is is 3?)
Luongo is a very good Goalie but not in the class of Roy and for you to argue makes no sense.
When did I say Luongo was as good as Roy?
There's a fairly significant gap between Roy and third place in terms of best goalies of the modern era. But there's also a significant gap between Roy and Hasek.
fine but you went off about ego's but I said Luongo's ego is that he needs another goalie to pump his tires in the Stanley Cup Finals right after he takes a shot at Thomas about his style of play? I call that ego very weak.
I know all great players have ego's, they have too but Luongo is mentally weak and would be lights out if he was mentally tougher. Hell, he could have won the cup for them if he was mentally tougher.
Some guys have skills but let everything else get in the way and Luongo is one of those guys.
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I am watching the B's Canucks game now because I was working today. All I have to say is other than Bieksa and Kesler, the Canucks are the BIGGEST BUNCH OF PUSSIES I HAVE EVER SEEN. How they play is disgraceful. There is just no character on this team. Talented as hell for sure, and that'll win them a ton of games, but I just cannot believe the lack of balls on this team.
Throw down the gloves you fu%king babies!
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I am watching the B's Canucks game now because I was working today. All I have to say is other than Bieksa and Kesler, the Canucks are the BIGGEST BUNCH OF PUSSIES I HAVE EVER SEEN. How they play is disgraceful. There is just no character on this team. Talented as hell for sure, and that'll win them a ton of games, but I just cannot believe the lack of balls on this team.
Throw down the gloves you fu%king babies!
Yup. Unreal wasn't it?! Talk about goating on players. But we catch a break on the second goal. How that wasn't icing is beyond me.
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Got to witness Shane Doan's first ever hat trick last night. After he scored his second, all his teammates would send him the puck. He had so many chances and you could tell he was frustrated. He then gets his third goal with 0.1 seconds left. AMAZING
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First place for the Blues, baby! First time they have been in first at the halfway point of the seasons since 2001. Here's hoping they can keep it up. :tup :tup
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Who is the best team in Hockey?
LETS GO RANGERS!!!!! :metal :metal :metal
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More like the third (or fourth) best team in hockey.
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marchand delivers a beautiful hip check sending the canuck cartwheeling and gets a game misconduct? wtf is wrong with this league?
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marchand delivers a beautiful hip check sending the canuck cartwheeling and gets a game misconduct? wtf is wrong with this league?
I guess it's in the rules now that you can't do that. Clipping it's called. i think the guy was going to railroad him and he ducked do he wouldn't get crush. mind you he is a dirty player and has that rep but still.
I still don't get how 6 Canucks on the ice and a few guys on the bench Mug Thornton and yet they get a 5 on 3?
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Hey Nick....you like apples? How do you like dem frosty Ottawa apples.
GO SENS GO!!!
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i would love for the current standing to stay, 6th versus florida would be a dream come true.
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First place for the Blues, baby! First time they have been in first at the halfway point of the seasons since 2001. Here's hoping they can keep it up. :tup :tup
It certainly is fun watching them....they are playing with a lot of confidence right now. I don't think enough has been said about the fact they just OWNED a Colorado team that had won 9 of 10........it's gonna be neat watching Halak play Montreal also. See how his nerves do and how the Blues play for him there.
All in all....it's pretty good to be a Blues fan these days :metal :biggrin: :metal
Oh and...if they maintain this type of play...I really wouldn't want to be the team playing them in the playoffs. They are playing playoff hockey right now ( :justjen Cardinals anyone) and the mix of youth and veteran leadership is near perfect. Bottom line, when the Blues make it in....they will be a team to reckon with. I'm not too concerned with any Eastern conference teams because they've owned them in recent history...it's thier friggin' division that is the toughy...some solid clubs there.
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Just past the mid-way point of the season, and Erik Karlsson is 16th in scoring with 41 points. The next nearest is Brian Campbell (33 points), all the way down at number 49. The last young d-man to score at this pace was Paul Coffey.
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Big O wasn't enough tonight, fucking Bryz and some sloppy D cost us what should have been an easy win.
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marchand delivers a beautiful hip check sending the canuck cartwheeling and gets a game misconduct? wtf is wrong with this league?
I guess it's in the rules now that you can't do that. Clipping it's called. i think the guy was going to railroad him and he ducked do he wouldn't get crush. mind you he is a dirty player and has that rep but still.
I still don't get how 6 Canucks on the ice and a few guys on the bench Mug Thornton and yet they get a 5 on 3?
...and lose Lucic for the game in the process!
Marchand has done that before. Basically when a guy is coming at him high, he basically ducks. It's not like he's initiating the contact.
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No his isn't and I'm not sure why it's all of a sudden a penalty. i don't remember a rule change or them enforcing a rule differently but since he was called for it before. He should know better.
I still didn't like that the Refs allowed the Canucks to antagonize and not expect the B's to respond to those tactics. The Canacks won't be able to do that in the playoffs because the ref swallow their whistles for the most part.
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More like the third (or fourth) best team in hockey.
Really? What hockey are you watching? All the Rangers keep doing is winning, and against strong opponents on the road.
Haters can hate.
Rangers rock the house! :metal
nuff said...
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More like the third (or fourth) best team in hockey.
Really? What hockey are you watching? All the Rangers keep doing is winning, and against strong opponents on the road.
Haters can hate.
Rangers rock the house! :metal
nuff said...
Boston's clearly the best team. Detroit is better as well, and maybe Vancouver.
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And the Blues. Does any team have a better record than the Blues have had since Ken Hitchcock took over? I doubt it.
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I don't know about the Blues. My sneaking suspicion is that Elliott can't maintain his level of play, and they'll fall off a bit.
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More like the third (or fourth) best team in hockey.
Really? What hockey are you watching? All the Rangers keep doing is winning, and against strong opponents on the road.
Haters can hate.
Rangers rock the house! :metal
nuff said...
Boston's clearly the best team. Detroit is better as well, and maybe Vancouver.
That is your opinion. We will find out in the end.
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I don't know about the Blues. My sneaking suspicion is that Elliott can't maintain his level of play, and they'll fall off a bit.
If he doesn't (and I think he will), we still have Halak, who is playing pretty damn well, too.
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I don't know about the Blues. My sneaking suspicion is that Elliott can't maintain his level of play, and they'll fall off a bit.
If he doesn't (and I think he will), we still have Halak, who is playing pretty damn well, too.
That's the thing....Hitchcock is doing a great job of keeping them both sharp, and there is a great inner 'fun' competitiveness that keeps them both playing well. Plus, Halak has been getting a lot more playing time and since Hitchcock took over hasn't lost a regulation game, his goals against is 1.45 (or near that) and he took his record from 1-6 to now 8-6 I think? Whatever the stats are there is no question that Halak has played ten fold better under Hitchcock which has a lot to do with his mindset and the fact that the Blues just don't give up many shots...and the shots they are giving up aren't in close they are perimeter shots.
The Blues may not be a top tier team just yet like a Detroits or BlackHawk team, or whoever the top tier teams are in the East (I honestly don't pay much attention to the East unless we are playing them) The Blues aren't quite there yet. But they are playing VERY confident and they EXPECT to win every night and that type of fight and mindset is tough to manicure and get in place but it's there now.
I will maintain it until the playoffs are here and gone....the Blues WILL BE a difficult team to beat in a seven game series with either goalie in net.
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Blues beat Montreal 3-0....Halak gets a shut out in his return, and in a show of Class the crowd gave him a standin 'O' after the game as he was the last player to leave the ice. He tipped his stick and took a quick bow.
Side Note:
Blues are 18-4-4 against the Eastern Conference the past two seasons. 7-0-1 this year.
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Henrique gets a Gordie Howe hatrick tonight, even if we lose this ugly one, it was cool to see the kid shine, 1 point from league rookie lead.
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Blues beat Montreal 3-0....Halak gets a shut out in his return, and in a show of Class the crowd gave him a standin 'O' after the game as he was the last player to leave the ice. He tipped his stick and took a quick bow.
Side Note:
Blues are 18-4-4 against the Eastern Conference the past two seasons. 7-0-1 this year.
:tup :tup
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Henrique gets a Gordie Howe hatrick tonight, even if we lose this ugly one, it was cool to see the kid shine, 1 point from league rookie lead.
Been really impressed with what I've seen of that kid this year.
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Blues beat Montreal 3-0....Halak gets a shut out in his return, and in a show of Class the crowd gave him a standin 'O' after the game as he was the last player to leave the ice. He tipped his stick and took a quick bow.
Wow, you don't see "show of class" and the Montreal crowd in the same sentence very often!
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Seriously.
I doubt Halak speaks a word of french, what were they thinking?
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Blues beat Montreal 3-0....Halak gets a shut out in his return, and in a show of Class the crowd gave him a standin 'O' after the game as he was the last player to leave the ice. He tipped his stick and took a quick bow.
Wow, you don't see "show of class" and the Montreal crowd in the same sentence very often!
Really? I don't follow them hardly at all and just assumed that with that teams rich history and the fact they gave Halak an ovation demonstrated how classy they were, just thought that's the 'way' they are. Maybe they are a bit more gruff with the 'rival' clubs. Well at least for one night they impressed the heck out of me because it was pretty touching actually....if you didn't get a chance to see it I'd suggest searching it and take a look. You could see/feel how much those fans loved the guy.
Halak was very gracious in the post game interviews and you could tell it meant a lot to him and that those fans mean a lot to him. I was happy for the guy.
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Fans that riot when they win are generally not considered classy :lol
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nor when they lose.
Proves Vancouver fans were jerk-offs from the start of the playoffs to the finish.
Marchand....."playing stupid hockey won me a Stanley Cup so....whatever"
lol
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nor when they lose.
Proves Vancouver fans were jerk-offs from the start of the playoffs to the finish.
Marchand....."playing stupid hockey won me a Stanley Cup so....whatever"
lol
:lol I love how the GM and coach of the Cannucks called out Marchand to the point of the coach saying he'll get his due and they have quite a few guys on their team that do the same dirty things, Maxim Lapierre and Alexandre Burrows I'm looking at you. They also have a bunch of divers. Wusses.
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Blues beat Montreal 3-0....Halak gets a shut out in his return, and in a show of Class the crowd gave him a standin 'O' after the game as he was the last player to leave the ice. He tipped his stick and took a quick bow.
Wow, you don't see "show of class" and the Montreal crowd in the same sentence very often!
Really? I don't follow them hardly at all and just assumed that with that teams rich history and the fact they gave Halak an ovation demonstrated how classy they were, just thought that's the 'way' they are. Maybe they are a bit more gruff with the 'rival' clubs. Well at least for one night they impressed the heck out of me because it was pretty touching actually....if you didn't get a chance to see it I'd suggest searching it and take a look. You could see/feel how much those fans loved the guy.
Halak was very gracious in the post game interviews and you could tell it meant a lot to him and that those fans mean a lot to him. I was happy for the guy.
I'm sure it as a great moment. Good for them.
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11th SHG for the top ranked PK, we won't get into the SHG against lol but they are actually scoring goals for in PP lately.
Taylor Hall was impressive, and the entire Oiler team looked like they spent 60 minutes making sure Henrique wouldn't get a point in Edmonton.
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Seriously.
I doubt Halak speaks a word of french, what were they thinking?
:lol
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More like the third (or fourth) best team in hockey.
Really? What hockey are you watching? All the Rangers keep doing is winning, and against strong opponents on the road.
Haters can hate.
Rangers rock the house! :metal
nuff said...
Boston's clearly the best team. Detroit is better as well, and maybe Vancouver.
That is your opinion. We will find out in the end.
We'll find out tonight actually.
You'll get a nice dose of this year's Norris trophy winner.
Ottawa 3
Rangers 1
Goals from Foligno and Turrisx2 with Karlsson assisting on all 3.
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Wasn't Karlsson like a +7 going into last night's game. How is he defensively? With that many points, you would think his +/_ would be better.
I compare that to Chara's +25 (or so...).
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high risk
high reward
he we as even befor a +5 the other night.
what's neat to watch is his recovery for defensive fuckups. The other night againt Jersey, he decides to slide it accross the blue line in the Devi's zone to his defense partner. Oops...one of the fastest players in the NHL Mr.Kovalchuk is there.....he caught up to him and foiled the breakway..barely.
Chara is playing 6 to 10 minutes LESS than Karlsson....that's right...he's playing nearly 39 minutes some nights. It seems he's always on the ice.
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39 minutes is insane!
B's play Ottawa in a couple of weeks. I'll have to keep my eye out for him.
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ya they need to slap on an 'objects may appear farther than they are' sign on chara. fucker has such a huge reach that most players don't realize he can poke check or steal from that distance since they are accustomed to a certain distance from a player.
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Wasn't Karlsson like a +7 going into last night's game. How is he defensively? With that many points, you would think his +/_ would be better.
I compare that to Chara's +25 (or so...).
Boston's goalies: 0.941 save percentage
Ottawa's goalies: 0.899 save percentage
A shot on one of Ottawa's keepers is 71% more likely to go in than a shot on one of Boston's.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Chara is overrated. Significantly. His size is deceiving. He's not that quick, and while very strong and with a huge reach, he struggles a bit on breaks and playing in front of the net.
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the shaq of hockey lol.
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Is there a seperate "Quality Shot" save percentage stat?
The save percentage stat could also be affected by the defenseman shutting down quality shooting lanes and keeping the goalies line of sight clear.
There is no way that Chara is "significantly" overrated. I used to think that he was when we got him, but not after watching him play regularly.
There's no doubt that Thomas and Rask are playing great, but a team's top. Defencemen can certainly help them out. Just look at Broduer.
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Gonna be a good game tonight in St Louis. Vancouver in town with a chance if the Blues win to tie them for the Conference lead. Can't wait to watch it....
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Gonna be a good game tonight in St Louis. Vancouver in town with a chance if the Blues win to tie them for the Conference lead. Can't wait to watch it....
Watch out. Vancouver may not drop the gloves. Pussies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCGe4MZkuSA
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Gonna be a good game tonight in St Louis. Vancouver in town with a chance if the Blues win to tie them for the Conference lead. Can't wait to watch it....
Watch out. Vancouver may not drop the gloves. Pussies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCGe4MZkuSA
Fu%#ng Pussies! :lol
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As someone who hates to defend a Boston player, Chara is currently a top 3 defenseman in the league, no question.
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lol cammaleri got canned for talking smack about habs hahah.
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He was right though. They are doing nothing good right now.
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Gonna be a good game tonight in St Louis. Vancouver in town with a chance if the Blues win to tie them for the Conference lead. Can't wait to watch it....
There is nothing that I hate more than when a friggin' referee hands a team a loss or win for that matter. >:( With 19 seconds to go in a 2-2 game the ref calls a BS pentalty on Backes merely because he was stronger than whichever wuss boy on the Canucks he ran over, handing the #1 power play in the league a 4 on 3 PP in OT. Thanks douche bag :tup
Don't get me wrong, that's not why the Blues didn't get the extra point, not scoring on two break aways kind of hurt...but to make that call then and there was a load of crap.
It was nice however to watch the Blues essentially dominate the Canucks though...something like 35 shots to thier 18 or 19, and they played in the Canuck zone all night...just couldn't get that ever important 3rd goal.
Oh well...my whine fest is over, :'(on to the next game
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There is nothing that I hate more than when a friggin' referee hands a team a loss or win for that matter. >:( With 19 seconds to go in a 2-2 game the ref calls a BS pentalty on Backes merely because he was stronger than whichever wuss boy on the Canucks he ran over, handing the #1 power play in the league a 4 on 3 PP in OT. Thanks douche bag :tup
They always seem to get those calls, don't they?
In somewhat related news:
Subban: French for Turtle
A disgraceful moment in last night's game. I can't find the clip on Youtube, but after he throws a cheap elbow at Krecji's head, Ference goes after him and it is textbook turtling. There should be an Unsportsmanlike Conduct penalty for that!
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Gonna be a good game tonight in St Louis. Vancouver in town with a chance if the Blues win to tie them for the Conference lead. Can't wait to watch it....
There is nothing that I hate more than when a friggin' referee hands a team a loss or win for that matter. >:( With 19 seconds to go in a 2-2 game the ref calls a BS pentalty on Backes merely because he was stronger than whichever wuss boy on the Canucks he ran over, handing the #1 power play in the league a 4 on 3 PP in OT. Thanks douche bag :tup
Sorry to interrupt, but that's a penalty against any team in any situation in any game. Pushing someone into the boards from behind is a penalty, period.
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I think the league will look into that elbow. Shanny has done a great job when it comes to head shots.
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Gonna be a good game tonight in St Louis. Vancouver in town with a chance if the Blues win to tie them for the Conference lead. Can't wait to watch it....
There is nothing that I hate more than when a friggin' referee hands a team a loss or win for that matter. >:( With 19 seconds to go in a 2-2 game the ref calls a BS pentalty on Backes merely because he was stronger than whichever wuss boy on the Canucks he ran over, handing the #1 power play in the league a 4 on 3 PP in OT. Thanks douche bag :tup
Sorry to interrupt, but that's a penalty against any team in any situation in any game. Pushing someone into the boards from behind is a penalty, period.
If they had called the whole game that way, I agree 100%. But the fact of the matter is they 'let those guys play' the entire game, didn't call at least three instances (2 by Canucks, 1 by Blues) that were WAY worse than that. That dude was falling, got a tiny shove from a much stronger player and even embellished a bit.
If they make that call at 19:40 of the first period....fine....the 'rules' and tempo of how they are going to call it has been set for the game. But to not call that stuff all game and then to do so right there in that moment was a LOAD OF CRAP.....PERIOD! That was not some massive hit from behind...it was a tiny shove....and it was a BS call.
Like I said originally, that's not the reason the Blues didn't get the second point....they had many opportunities to bury that team and they didn't. But it certainly wasn't "fair" to handicap a team like that going into an overtime between two teams that had fought hard.
BS call.
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The Ottawa Senators................who the fuck are these guys????....Seriously.
i will say this about last night's game...sure Ranger fans can boo every time Gaborik falls..which was alot...but the Sens got away with a BOATLOAD of crap last night.
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Gonna be a good game tonight in St Louis. Vancouver in town with a chance if the Blues win to tie them for the Conference lead. Can't wait to watch it....
There is nothing that I hate more than when a friggin' referee hands a team a loss or win for that matter. >:( With 19 seconds to go in a 2-2 game the ref calls a BS pentalty on Backes merely because he was stronger than whichever wuss boy on the Canucks he ran over, handing the #1 power play in the league a 4 on 3 PP in OT. Thanks douche bag :tup
Sorry to interrupt, but that's a penalty against any team in any situation in any game. Pushing someone into the boards from behind is a penalty, period.
If they had called the whole game that way, I agree 100%. But the fact of the matter is they 'let those guys play' the entire game, didn't call at least three instances (2 by Canucks, 1 by Blues) that were WAY worse than that. That dude was falling, got a tiny shove from a much stronger player and even embellished a bit.
If they make that call at 19:40 of the first period....fine....the 'rules' and tempo of how they are going to call it has been set for the game. But to not call that stuff all game and then to do so right there in that moment was a LOAD OF CRAP.....PERIOD! That was not some massive hit from behind...it was a tiny shove....and it was a BS call.
Like I said originally, that's not the reason the Blues didn't get the second point....they had many opportunities to bury that team and they didn't. But it certainly wasn't "fair" to handicap a team like that going into an overtime between two teams that had fought hard.
BS call.
All true. I hate that in any sport, when the officials let certain things go for most of the game, and then all of a sudden decide to call it, and always as the most inopportune time. Like you said, the Blues had plenty of chances to win that game, but that crap call sure didn't help.
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When they interrupted the curling game I was watching last night with news of the Cammalleri-Bourque trade I literally jumped up and shouted in excitement. I can't wait to see Cammalleri playing with Iginla again, this is fantastic news for the Flames.
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When they interrupted the curling game I was watching last night with news of the Cammalleri-Bourque trade I literally jumped up and shouted in excitement. I can't wait to see Cammalleri playing with Iginla again, this is fantastic news for the Flames.
No joke. He played the first two periods and they sent him to a local Boston hospital to pass a physical. Can you believe durring the game?!
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Interesting trade.....
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For anyone that hasn't seen the Subban play:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heF3OY2Pnoo
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bob mackenzie tends to think the Habs won the deal, I agree.
Bourque's points match up well against Cammy's over the past three years (08/09 anomaly not withstanding)
He's big, powerful and he's a shit. Just what montreal needs with all of it's little euro's and finesse players.
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jets fans are a bunch of fuckin idiots, they boo the opposing team's best players and try to taunt a goalie when they are down. too much withdrawal for those frozen canadians, not enough brain cells left.
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I think they were booing Kovalchuk because he ditched the Thrashers...basically giving him what he deserved to get in Atlanta if not for the fact that they had no fans.
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ok i'll give them that one, but taunting brodeur when losing is laughable.
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And certainly no other fans in the entire NHL do that.
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The Bruins have officially....come back to Earth!
It will be good to get Marchand and Peverley back tomorrow at NJ.
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The Bruins have officially....come back to Earth!
It will be good to get Marchand and Peverley back tomorrow at NJ.
No intensity or urgency at all.
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The Bruins have officially....come back to Earth!
It will be good to get Marchand and Peverley back tomorrow at NJ.
No intensity or urgency at all.
They've really missed Marchand. As good as Pouliot has looked, Chris Kelly has looked lost without his linemates.
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Well, we all knew that they couldn't keep this intensity all season. They'll be back on it sometime soon.
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there goals against is still riddiculous....they are a force.
The Sens coming back to earth is more likely.
(pout)
The deserved to lose Monday, and shouldn't have won last night.
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bob mackenzie tends to think the Habs won the deal, I agree.
Bourque's points match up well against Cammy's over the past three years (08/09 anomaly not withstanding)
He's big, powerful and he's a shit. Just what montreal needs with all of it's little euro's and finesse players.
Yeah, I saw that.
Can't argue with his reasons. That's for sure.
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Saw the Flyers slaughter of the Wild the other night, next game may not be so easy....
At Game Record: 4-3-2
Kings (3-2 OT)
Columbus (9-2 W)
Coyotes (2-1 W)
Hurricanes (4-2 L)
Bruins (6-0 L)
Alumni Game (3-1 W)
Rangers (Winter Classic) (3-2 L)
Chicago (5-4 W)
Wild (5-1 W)
Bruins (6-5 OT)
Red Wings (3/6)
Penguins (3/18)
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The B's are not playing well right now Nick. You may have caught them in a small slump. They are 4-3 in the last 7 games and they are strugling to score.
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The Blues won again at home last night putting them at a 20-3-3 record at home this season! Halak had another shut out (3 of his last 4 have been shut outs) I'm really liking the confidence I'm seeing in this team and am certain they won't be a team anyone will WANT to play once the playoffs begin. I know there are still a lot of games to play between now and then....but I don't get the impression this team is going to take anything less than a playoff birth.
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^^and Brian Elliot a new 2 year deal^^ good for him.
a loosy goosy Islanders team hands the Flyers their asses and Sens pass em with a rare win in San Jose.
The eastern conference is a funny animal.
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^^and Brian Elliot a new 2 year deal^^ good for him.
Yeah, that's exciting because the Blues have both Elliot and Halak signed through the 2014 season. That sets up a pretty nice tandem and gives the Blues some stability. Not to mention we have two very good goalies on our farm team Peoria in Ben Bishop and Jake Allen. If we could just get some stable ownership in place now....that'd be the icing on the cake.
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^^and Brian Elliot a new 2 year deal^^ good for him.
a loosy goosy Islanders team hands the Flyers their asses and Sens pass em with a rare win in San Jose.
The eastern conference is a funny animal.
Weird night indeed.
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seriously.
10 games ended up in a 4-1 score....if you could parlay that and bet on it...or I think the over/under is five or five and a half.
If you'd be all ten??? There was money to be made there.
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The Trooper playing at the B's/Rangers game?! Hell Yeah!!
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The Trooper playing at the B's/Rangers game?! Hell Yeah!!
Lie by Dream Theater is our staple song in the arena in the second.
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The Trooper playing at the B's/Rangers game?! Hell Yeah!!
"The Wickerman" is the Capitals' goal song, I believe.
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Hockey music is the best!!
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How bout them Flyers Zero. :D
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The Blues win. Again. I still cannot believe a) how good this team is, and b) how good the division is. Four of the top five teams in the West right now are from the Central Division.
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The Blues win. Again. I still cannot believe a) how good this team is, and b) how good the division is. Four of the top five teams in the West right now are from the Central Division.
No kidding! Chicago, Detroit and St. Louis can go from first place in thier division AND Overall to 4th place in the division just by one or two points. It really is awesome to watch the Blues keep pace with the elite teams that are 'used' to winning like this. They have a pretty tough road haul coming soon. I think it's six on the road, back home for one or two, then six on the road again. VERY interested to see how they respond to that. Personally, I think they are going to rock it!
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Damn right. I still hope they trade for a scorer or two, as more offense never hurts, and you can't rely on winning 1-0 non-stop in the playoffs, but this sure is exciting. And the good news is, there are no shootouts, which the Blues stink at, in the playoffs. :lol :lol
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The Blues win. Again. I still cannot believe a) how good this team is, and b) how good the division is. Four of the top five teams in the West right now are from the Central Division.
Welcome to how the Atlantic division is pretty much every year. Alas the Islanders will forever keep us from having 5 super competitive teams.
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I'm sorry, but Tim Thomas skipping out on the White House visit for "political reasons" is lame. Just lame.
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I'm sorry, but Tim Thomas skipping out on the White House visit for "political reasons" is lame. Just lame.
100% correct. I am surprised he would do that.
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According to Hags, Thomas will post a statement on his Facebook page after 6PM.
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I am tired of these kinds of stances with athletes. No one cares Tim. Your not going to sway me because you didn't go.
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Is there actual statement stating he did it because of political reasons?
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This reminds me of when that d-bag James Harrison of the Steelers didn't want to go because "They wouldn't invite us if we hadn't won the Super Bowl." Well, duh, you dope. Champions from team sports get invited to the White House. That is the way it is done. It is an honor to go to the White House, no questions asked. Sounds like Tim Thomas is a dope, too.
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I agree.
Just lost a bunch of respect for a really nice guy.
Not sure his motives, but it better not be race related.
The only american on the team, doesn't go.
sad..just sad.
I'd be honored and thrilled, that a man that busy took the time to meet with me no matter my beliefs.
Fuck beliefs, go visit one of the most amazing historical buildings in the world!
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His statement was this:
I believe the Federal government has grown out of control, threatening the Rights, Liberties, and Property of the People.
This is being done at the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial level. This is in direct opposition to the Constitution and the Founding Fathers vision for the Federal government.
Because I believe this, today I exercised my right as a Free Citizen, and did not visit the White House. This was not about politics or party, as in my opinion both parties are responsible for the situation we are in as a country. This was about a choice I had to make as an INDIVIDUAL.
This is the only public statement I will be making on this topic. TT
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Before the statement, I respected his right to choose.
Now, having, read his statement nothing has changed in my opinion.
That's MY last word on it, because it's his personal decision and has nothing to do with hockey.
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Just dropped in to clarify my position on the Detroit Red Wings.
I absolutely Fu%king hate them! >:( Each and every one of thier players can choke on each others :censored for all I care!
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howard on pace for 50 wins, let's see if he can break Brodeur's record.
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lol spezza leaves the warmup bleeding from the head after taking a puck because he didn't want to wear a helmet. 2 for 2 so far, maybe the airheads will get a clue.
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howard on pace for 50 wins, let's see if he can break Brodeur's record.
He's also on pace to get strangled by me if we were ever to cross paths for acting like a friggin' stone wall everytime the Blue play him :yeahright
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His statement was this:
I believe the Federal government has grown out of control, threatening the Rights, Liberties, and Property of the People.
This is being done at the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial level. This is in direct opposition to the Constitution and the Founding Fathers vision for the Federal government.
Because I believe this, today I exercised my right as a Free Citizen, and did not visit the White House. This was not about politics or party, as in my opinion both parties are responsible for the situation we are in as a country. This was about a choice I had to make as an INDIVIDUAL.
This is the only public statement I will be making on this topic. TT
:tup A very well written statement, and while I would not have skipped out on the visit as he had, I can fully understand where he is coming from as I pretty much agree with his views.
I would also have agreed with him if the statement would have read something like, "364 days out of the year Obama doesn't give 2 shits about hockey, and I'm not going to help America pretend that for 1 day he does."
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Nick.
This thread...like...hockey...is no place for political grandstanding.
He was out of line.
I don't care what his beliefs are.
Neither do the Bruins, or the league, or the fans he used to have.
But now we know...he's a card carrying member of the Michigan Militia, with beans, bullets and buillion hiding in the basement of his 4 million dollar mansion while he rails on about "the state of the union".
He should have said nothing.
And not gone.
Now, the All Star game will be nicely tainted by the starting goalie having to answer to the salivating media.
Fun Fun.
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You know, I'd be ok with it if Tim was very vocal about politics before but I've never heard a peep out of him about politics ever here in N.E. So it's comes off weird for him to do so.
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the guy is an amazing feel good story.....seriously.
But, there's a time and a place.
Pull a Ken Dryden. Win your awards, retire, then do into politics and lawering and stuff.
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Had he not gone everyone and their brother would have asked why. He made the one statement that needed to be made without attacking anyone or looking like an ass. Thomas went about this the best possible way as far as I'm concerned.
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Could've just said personal reasons and left it at that.
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Could've just said personal reasons and left it at that.
x100
and then, he could have waited two weeks after the visit and released a statement as to why.
He didn't even tell the team until hours before.
It just screams of big douchebaggery.
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Could've just said personal reasons and left it at that.
If he just said that people would be constantly asking why. Now everyone knows why, and if they ask he can simply say he's given his reason and won't discuss it.
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Could've just said personal reasons and left it at that.
If he just said that people would be constantly asking why. Now everyone knows why, and if they ask he can simply say he's given his reason and won't discuss it.
I really don't see what the big deal is? There are countless athletes who choose not to attend the W.H. ceremonies when thier team gets acknowledged. Heck, Albert Pujols and Yadier Molina just skipped the Cardinals day at the White House...not a word about that?
My personal opinion is that the only reason people/the media are obsessing about it is the fact that he has been and is very open about his political views and that they are in direct conflict with the current administration. That is the ONLY reason this has been the story it has been and is being talked about so much. Teammates have skipped this stuff before and the "story" behind thier reasoning was dead and gone as soon as it was announced. This is more "juicy" so it's gonna linger a bit.
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Just the opposite gmillerdrake. Timmy has never been vocal alt all about politics and the fact that he said he would only release a statement and not talk to the media on this has added unwanted attention to this story.
Years ago Manny Ramirez didn't go either but it wasn't a big deal. Most said "Manny is just being Manny".
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Just the opposite gmillerdrake. Timmy has never been vocal alt all about politics and the fact that he said he would only release a statement and not talk to the media on this has added unwanted attention to this story.
I was under the impression that he was active in his support for the 'Tea Party'? Or at least that is what a local morning radio show had me believe.
I'll glady defer to you and those who are more familiar with him and trust those opinions then. It just seems to me that this story became more relevant due to the political nature of it.
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I have no problem with him and his political aspirations. it's just that we never heard from him before for all these years and now to do it durring a silly meet and greet........
Oh well, back to hockey is what I'd like after the All Star game.
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I have no problem with him and his political aspirations. it's just that we never heard from him before for all these years and now to do it durring a silly meet and greet........
Well it is the job of a Vital team leader to create massive, un-nescessary off ice distractions..... :facepalm:
I'm doubting this has an affect on how the B's play though.
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No ,not at all. but he will be drilled by the media durring the All Star game. You know how the national media is.
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Ok, first off, I knew this All Star Game would be the one that the "league" forgot. I get it, the USA markets are smileing over the Winter Classic right now. In fact the WC gets higher ratings than the Stanley Cup Final. All that being said, I also knew that pretty much anybody with media clout would find a way out of this game - and the more of these "name brand" players that withdraw - the happier I get. Ottawa is a fantastic little city, we'll have our own party....and the best part is (and Scotty Hartnell replacing O-Fuckchkin is where I'm coming from here) that this All Star Game is more and more becoming about the players that actually deserve to be here. Hartnell is a beast, and he actually deserves to be here - he's having a career year. We're in for a great blue collar All Star Game people, I hope true hockey fans tune in.
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Considering the Bruins have played pretty much the least amount of games so far, I cannot think of a team that is in more need of the All Star break.
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This ASG is pretty disastrous, a lot of teams not represented (devils just pulled the rookies back so we aren't in either) and a lot of omissions from smaller markets. Not sure how they are trying to market this to anyone who knows a droplet of hockey.
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Ottawa's All Star Game is going to be the one the "league" forgot to show up to.
It's no biggy. None of us here really give a crap.
It's a fun party.
We have an over achieving team - though Aaron Ward and all his wisdom thinks the Sens won't make the playoffs....I hope he eats crow.
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Enjoy it Ytse!
All we have down here is the evengelical NHL Network that dumbs everything down so us Americans can understand it. They are still rerunning the the draft down here. I didn't watch it, but I'd rather know what's going on with the Alumni game or what other cool things are going on. I don't need to see hockey players signing autographs on the red carpet or Nickleback playing a few songs before the game.
I really wish we could get CBC and TSN down here.
Screw it. I'm putting on a Marillion DVD....
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I think you can get CBC online to watch games. I had a buddy who went to live Australia for a year and watched many that way
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Watching the skills competition on TV, and I saw someone with a number 18 Charlestown Chiefs jersey and black rimmed glasses. It made me very happy.
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not NHL related, but hockey related
Drove 2 hours to Prescott Valley to see minor hockey (CHL)... and it was a joke. I don't remember minor league hockey being that ridiculous. The ref was atrocious, I think we may have seen 2 minutes of full time hockey total. There was a crap load of sucker punching and bad hits. I'll have to go back and see if it was just those two teams.
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Skills was fun, classy by all players involved, fans were great (except to the three leafs)
It's definitely a "made for TV event". Not that it wasn't fun being there but.......you miss alot of on air stuff.
The funniest thing was that these two events are "NHL events" not Ottawa Senators events. SO the building becomes and NHL building, all add banners covered, and my cheap-o season tickets in the "no beer zone" are no long in a no beer zone. So I had rowdy drunkards all around me...which made for some entertaining commentary.
my personal fav...as the second of the two Sedin's is being introduced:
"HEY SEDIN.....YOUR BROTHER IS UGLY!"
also to a Vancouver player (edler I think)
"DON'T MISS EDLER-----OR THEY"LL BURN THE CITY DOWN"
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The skills is my favorite. I really enjoyed Price's antics during the breakaway challenge. Watching in the glass, twirling around, and tebowing = hilarious.
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The skill competition was pretty cool to watch. I was amazed when Chara broke his hard hitting record with 108.9mph
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Devils to play Islanders (the home team) at the new Barclay's Center on October 2nd for a preseason game. First sporting event there, assuming we get a CBA sorted out.
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I think you can get CBC online to watch games. I had a buddy who went to live Australia for a year and watched many that way
I did actually watch the Winter Classic Alumni game online. The Winter Classic was online too, but i had no interest in that.
The rest of the time I try to watch online I get barred because I'm in the States.
I've spoiled myself so much now that unless I watch Canadian feed from somewhere, I usually just to watch.
Which in a way is good because that leaves me more time to listen to music.
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proxy server maybe?
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Went to the Flyers game last night and saw Bryz actually stop two shootout shooters. Too bad our guys couldn't get it done.
At Game Record: 4-3-3
Kings (3-2 OT)
Columbus (9-2 W)
Coyotes (2-1 W)
Hurricanes (4-2 L)
Bruins (6-0 L)
Alumni Game (3-1 W)
Rangers (Winter Classic) (3-2 L)
Chicago (5-4 W)
Wild (5-1 W)
Bruins (6-5 OT)
Jets (2-1 OT)
Red Wings (3/6)
Penguins (3/18)
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watched the Sens totally dominate the bruins for most of the game 5/5..........refs fucked us again though.
I almost thought I'd see Paul Maclean put the white towel on the hockey stick a-la Roger Nielsen.
The difference was two powerplays.
Strange that the most penalized team in the league got no penalties last night.
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At Game Record: 4-3-3
Kings (3-2 OT)
Columbus (9-2 W)
Coyotes (2-1 W)
Hurricanes (4-2 L)
Bruins (6-0 L)
Alumni Game (3-1 W)
Rangers (Winter Classic) (3-2 L)
Chicago (5-4 W)
Wild (5-1 W)
Bruins (6-5 OT)
Jets (2-1 OT)
Red Wings (3/6)
Penguins (3/18)
Prepare to be 4-4-3 at games.
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watched the Sens totally dominate the bruins for most of the game 5/5..........refs fucked us again though.
I almost thought I'd see Paul Maclean put the white towel on the hockey stick a-la Roger Nielsen.
The difference was two powerplays.
Strange that the most penalized team in the league got no penalties last night.
Hey! Goons have quiet nights to you know! :biggrin:
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watched the Sens totally dominate the bruins for most of the game 5/5..........refs fucked us again though.
I almost thought I'd see Paul Maclean put the white towel on the hockey stick a-la Roger Nielsen.
The difference was two powerplays.
Strange that the most penalized team in the league got no penalties last night.
YBS, I was thinking of you watching the game. It was frustrating I'm sure.
All in all, the officiating has just been atrocious all year. That call late in the game on Foligno was a joke, and frankly, half of the B's penalties this year have been like that.
Turris scored on a hell of a shot, and Karlsson had Thomas completely fooled. Both on major defensive breakdowns by the Bruins.
I'm not completely sold on Karlsson, though. Talented for sure, but I just need to see more of him.
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Karlsson has 33% more points than the next nearest defenseman.
If Malkin had a 33% lead in the scoring race, he would be at 73 points (instead of 59). Just a means of comparison.
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Karlsson has 33% more points than the next nearest defenseman.
If Malkin had a 33% lead in the scoring race, he would be at 73 points (instead of 59). Just a means of comparison.
Isn't it 25%? 48 to 36?
I'm certainly not trying to say he sucks. He's got 8 goals..as many as Chara and ties him for what, 6th or 7th for D-Men? And only a +6 with all of those points. Now a Chara mistake led directly to Karlsson's goal last night, but defensively, Karllson is not elite..yet. He was pickpocketed right at the goal line last night and instead of blocking Lucic's goal, he seemed to shrivel up.
I saw on the NHL network where they were talking about him for the Norris consideration and I was like WTF?? So these days a ton of assists gets you the Norris, when you main job as a D-Man is to prevent them? And I think a single digit +/- should take him right out of the running.
He's just not in the same class as Chara or Weber..yet I say. Like I said, there's a hell of a lot of hype to him because of the high point total.
I just need to see more that's all. He's certainly a likeable player.
EDIT: I'm also willing to concede that Ottowa's goaltending may hurt Karllson's +/-, just as Boston's goaltending helps Chara's.
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I won't argue he is a defensive liability. He's exciting to watch though. But not really Norris material.
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I won't argue he is a defensive liability. He's exciting to watch though. But not really Norris material.
Yeah, that's all I'm saying too, trying not to sound like a dick.
I must say that after the All Star Game, I was really looking forward to last night's game against the Sens. I was very interested in watching Karllson and Michalek.
Hey, let me ask you this..in today's Boston Herald, a writer asked Chris Kelly about rumors that the Sens were going to try and reaquire him in the off season. Have you heard the same up there?
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it would not surprise me, but Murray keeps really quiet on things.
He did say that Kelly was the one player he DID NOT want to get rid of.
very valuable.
and............UFA.
Chiarelli knows...they'll sign him.
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pretty atrocious refereeing in the devils habs game, it's a miracle we managed to win after getting robbed of a goal and several hundred powerplays.
also, fuck subban.
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8pt night... what the fuck
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I won't argue he is a defensive liability. He's exciting to watch though. But not really Norris material.
Now he is, but Karlsson is going to be a stud once he figures it out. So is Subban for that matter...although Subban has it mostly figured out already.
Chara and Weber are by and large shutdown defensemen who can kick in some offense now and again.
Oh...and who on NHL Network was talking Karlsson getting Norris consideration? It depends on who was talking whether or not I'd put much stock in the opinion...
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Lol flyers
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Also, lol devils, that was close.
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That entire fucking game was bullshit from the moment an obvious call was let go just because we were on the power play.
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kovie is awesome, howe hatrick today.
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All of a sudden; devils! 16 goals in 3 games.
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hahaha choke on it rags!
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Man, extra time has not been kind to me this year.
At Game Record: 4-3-4
Kings (3-2 OT)
Columbus (9-2 W)
Coyotes (2-1 W)
Hurricanes (4-2 L)
Bruins (6-0 L)
Alumni Game (3-1 W)
Rangers (Winter Classic) (3-2 L)
Chicago (5-4 W)
Wild (5-1 W)
Bruins (6-5 OT)
Jets (2-1 OT)
Islanders (1-0 OT)
Rangers (2/11)
Red Wings (3/6)
Penguins (3/18)
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A pair of 1-0 games on the road.
Doesn't get much better than that for me.
Wait...it does. I'm watching Transatlantic: Live In Europe yet again....
Looks like the road goes through Boston.
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Oh...and who on NHL Network was talking Karlsson getting Norris consideration? It depends on who was talking whether or not I'd put much stock in the opinion...
That was me that mentioned it. I can't remember. Two guys were doing their mid year picks a few weeks back. Funny, but I remember scratching my head on a number of their picks.
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I don't see why Karlsson wouldn't be a Norris candidate. For example, he leads all defencemen in GVT. (https://www.hockeyprospectus.com/sortable/)
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What is GVT?
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Goals Versus Threshold. Explanation of it (in three parts) here (https://puckprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=233), here (https://puckprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=235), and here (https://www.puckprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=236).
Essentially a way to calculate a player's influence upon his team's goal differential.
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That's a bit over analyzing. New types of stats showing up every year.
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it would not surprise me, but Murray keeps really quiet on things.
He did say that Kelly was the one player he DID NOT want to get rid of.
very valuable.
and............UFA.
Chiarelli knows...they'll sign him.
I'd love to see Kelly in an Isles uniform, but :yeahright
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I'm new here. Pittsburgh Penguins fan. Hope Sid can come back for the playoffs.
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awwww Gomez finally scored
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Goals Versus Threshold. Explanation of it (in three parts) here (https://puckprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=233), here (https://puckprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=235), and here (https://www.puckprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=236).
Essentially a way to calculate a player's influence upon his team's goal differential.
While I can see that this would be valuble tool for GMs or scouts to use in player evaluations for signing or trading, I wouldn't think it has much value in terms of awards at the end of the year.
When Karlsson puts it all together. He's going to be a stud.
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Yeah, media perception depends on who gets nominated. The Selke is the clear worst for this, seeing as how it focuses more on how many goals one scores rather than actual defensive performance.
But it's not like Karlsson's viewed negatively in the media.
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Down go the Bruins! Rangers continue to roll!!!! :metal
3rd or 4th best team my ass!
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Interesting bit of symmetry: Kovalchuk and Spezza, the #1 and #2 picks of the 2001 draft, each picked up their 23rd, 24th, and 25th goals of the season tonight (in addition to an assist each; factoring in on all their team's goals), on the PP, at ES, and into the empty net respectively.
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That is kinda freaky.
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Down go the Bruins! Rangers continue to roll!!!! :metal
3rd or 4th best team my ass!
Yeah, the Rangers keep truckin' and the B's are in a funk right now.
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1st best, 2nd best, who cares? Still a lot of hockey to be played before the playoffs begin, but for what it's worth, it is hard to argue against the four best teams right now being the Rangers, Red Wings, Blues and Canucks.
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And of those I'd say that right now Red Wings and Rangers are 1 and 2.
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1st best, 2nd best, who cares? Still a lot of hockey to be played before the playoffs begin, but for what it's worth, it is hard to argue against the four best teams right now being the Rangers, Red Wings, Blues and Canucks.
:cough:Penguins:cough:
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Interesting bit of symmetry: Kovalchuk and Spezza, the #1 and #2 picks of the 2001 draft, each picked up their 23rd, 24th, and 25th goals of the season tonight (in addition to an assist each; factoring in on all their team's goals), on the PP, at ES, and into the empty net respectively.
with a do-over (and I pose this to everyone for completely impartial reactions)
Who would you pick. Of those two?
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Rangers looking mighty tough.
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Interesting bit of symmetry: Kovalchuk and Spezza, the #1 and #2 picks of the 2001 draft, each picked up their 23rd, 24th, and 25th goals of the season tonight (in addition to an assist each; factoring in on all their team's goals), on the PP, at ES, and into the empty net respectively.
with a do-over (and I pose this to everyone for completely impartial reactions)
Who would you pick. Of those two?
Kovalchuk.
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1st best, 2nd best, who cares?
I DO!!! RANGERS, BABY!!!! :metal
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Brodeur in great shape in the last ten starts, slowly creeping up behind the rags.
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23 straight at home and counting....? This is getting ridiculous.
:D
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23 straight at home and counting....? This is getting ridiculous.
:D
I like that they are getting it out of their system now.
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Me too.
Plus, that record does have a big asterisk next to it since four of those wins are OT or shootout wins, and the teams that has the original records didn't have the luxury of overtime back in the day to turn a tie into a win.
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Disturbing that their last home loss was against Calgary. ???
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Me too.
Plus, that record does have a big asterisk next to it since four of those wins are OT or shootout wins, and the teams that has the original records didn't have the luxury of overtime back in the day to turn a tie into a win.
On the flip side, there is a lot more parity in the league now.
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Just me and two of my home boys playing NHL 12.
(https://www.nickeh.com/images/FlyersPS3.jpg)
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Why the fuck are you playing a hockey video game...at a hockey game? FFS, that's like the fuck heads that play guitar hero at concerts. :lol
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It wasn't a game, it was a charity event.
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Why the fuck are you playing a hockey video game...at a hockey game? FFS, that's like the fuck heads that play guitar hero at concerts. :lol
My oh my, Cole. Some things never change.
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And just like that, devils are tiEd with Bruins for second in the east by points. Look out rags!
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Sens are right behind ya..
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And just like that, devils are tiEd with Bruins for second in the east by points. Look out rags!
Yeah they are on a roll!
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23 straight at home and counting....? This is getting ridiculous.
:D
Yep....it's going to make that second round loss to St. Louis soooooooo much sweeter to watch, when (we) the Blues wrap it up on thier ice. :biggrin:
But 23 games straight is insane!
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And the Wings made a very astute trade today.
Smart smart hockey people there.
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I will reserve judgement on getting Downie... In the past I haven't liked him, but he is the type of player that you only like on your team... sigh I will miss Quincy though, he grabbed my butt once :hat
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Williams, Gagne, Richards and now Carter... LA just needs to put Stevens in charge and re-name the team Flyers West.
And they overpayed for Carter, as did Columbus.
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I was at the Platinum seats (basically access to all events happening at the arena) in the Prudential Center last night and let me tell ya, the other half is hooked up. Bar under the seating on the penalty box side for easy access, gourmet food freshly made and served for free including steak i had and sushi bar, desert station etc. comfy couches and bar basically for me alone with maybe 20 others there. Personal bathroom which is key for drinking beers lol.
I hope I get the corporate tix more often, they know i'm a huge fan so they just handed them to me, keep em coming boys!
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Just me and two of my home boys playing NHL 12.
(https://www.nickeh.com/images/FlyersPS3.jpg)
Awesome...
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https://playerspoll.ca/
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And the players are right. Quebec deserves a team.
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weeeeeeee deadline day!
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Kostietsen goes to Nashville.
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mostly crap...for other crap today.
nothing of note.
the biggest one maybe being the Wild shipping Nick Shultz to the Oilers for Tom Gilbert.
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I believe the Winnik and Galidardi is a pretty big move for San Jose... Avs however get players that I don't really know anything about.
It's starting to get exciting now! Lots of trades coming in.
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You're gonna know about Jamie McGinn in a BIG hurry.
You got a good one there.
You see....San Jose's GM is a former Ottawa 67. (an OHL-Ontario Hockey League team) This team breeds winners, and winners that are selfless fantastic team mates. Doug Wilson, Denis Potvin, Brian Smith, Logan Couture and McGinn are recent prospects from this team. Year in and year out the team is a bunch of winners....yet..come draft time, the rest of the NHL scouts and GMs largely ignore them for flashier picks. Doug Wilson (sharks GM) having come from the team/system knows full well what he's getting...and if you look at San Jose's picks...they have A LOT of 67's in their system.
McGinn is a good one. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_McGinn
if he has his back issues mostly cleared up, he's a solid second liner that can score. He's young, cheap, and eager.
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I'm glad Dallas didn't trade. They need to build around what they have and keep those vets for the room.
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At Game Record: 5-4-4
2011-10-15 Kings (3-2 OT)
2011-11-05 Columbus (9-2 W)
2011-11-17 Coyotes (2-1 W)
2011-11-21 Hurricanes (4-2 L)
2011-12-17 Bruins (6-0 L)
2011-12-31 Alumni Game (3-1 W)*
2012-01-02 Rangers (Winter Classic) (3-2 L)
2012-01-05 Chicago (5-4 W)
2012-01-17 Wild (5-1 W)
2012-01-22 Bruins (6-5 OT)
2012-01-31 Jets (2-1 OT)
2012-02-07 Islanders (1-0 OT)
2012-02-11 Rangers (5-2 L)
2012-02-19 Flyers Carnival*
2012-03-01 Islanders (6-3 W)
Red Wings (3/6)
Penguins (3/18)
Montreal (3/24)
Sabres (4/5)
Well, if this season is any indication I should stop going to games, but I've just added a few more, including tonight against the Islanders.
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You really want to lose at this point Nick...and so do the Sens.
The 6th seed is where you want to be in the East going into the playoffs
7th is no good.
In fact, other than 7th (having to face the bruins) there's not much really all that scary in the East.
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Well the B's are not firing on all cylinders right now so.....
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Well the B's are not firing on all cylinders right now so.....
True.
The way I heard it described the other day on the Team1200 was.....they are playing too much into their reputation. The reputation of being the BIG BAD BRUINS. Actually, they're the exceptionally skilled Bruins. Milan Lucic is a REALLY good hockey player..offensively gifted...and they have so many people like that...gifted and big..and tough. They've just stopped playing skilled hockey and ramped up the rough. The Sens passed circles around them the other night, but as usual Thomas did his thing against Ottawa.
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The Blues and Canucks tonight. The current 2 and 1 seeds in the West. Should be a good one! :metal :metal
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Well the B's are not firing on all cylinders right now so.....
True.
The way I heard it described the other day on the Team1200 was.....they are playing too much into their reputation. The reputation of being the BIG BAD BRUINS. Actually, they're the exceptionally skilled Bruins. Milan Lucic is a REALLY good hockey player..offensively gifted...and they have so many people like that...gifted and big..and tough. They've just stopped playing skilled hockey and ramped up the rough. The Sens passed circles around them the other night, but as usual Thomas did his thing against Ottawa.
Well that was a weird game. Seemed the B's had no legs and Thomas was unreal. they can't seem to play a complete game of late. When they score they give up too many goals or they just can't find the net.
I think they play better when their the big bad B's and they seem to fallen away from that. At least from my point of view. But hey. 2 more months two right the ship into the playoffs.
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I think they literally hit a wall.
I think Rolston will be released by the end of the year.
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Flyers were playing pretty good tonight, and handled the Islanders as they should. Was nice to see Read have a great night.
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The Blues and Canucks tonight. The current 2 and 1 seeds in the West. Should be a good one! :metal :metal
It was a good game, but the Blues brutal road schedule lately caught up with them, they looked tired in the 3rd period, and they lost the game after giving up two lazy turnovers in their own zone. Bummer, but still in first and still plenty of hockey to go. :tup :tup
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Had a really cool experience today. My girlfriend bought Bill Clement's book at the game tonight as he was there doing a signing, and as I went through the line with her I noticed he had his Stanley Cup ring on the table and let a kid get a picture with it on. So I couldn't resist asking when we got up to him...
(https://www.nickeh.com/images/champring.jpg)
An actual Stanley Cup (replica I assume) ring. How fucking awesome is that.
Also, I don't remember who, but someone needs to fess up and admit they got the call on the Red Wings/Flyers game wrong a few months back. :p
At Game Record: 8-4-4
2011-10-15 Kings (3-2 OT)
2011-11-05 Columbus (9-2 W)
2011-11-17 Coyotes (2-1 W)
2011-11-21 Hurricanes (4-2 L)
2011-12-17 Bruins (6-0 L)
2011-12-31 Alumni Game (3-1 W)*
2012-01-02 Rangers (Winter Classic) (3-2 L)
2012-01-05 Chicago (5-4 W)
2012-01-17 Wild (5-1 W)
2012-01-22 Bruins (6-5 OT)
2012-01-31 Jets (2-1 OT)
2012-02-07 Islanders (1-0 OT)
2012-02-11 Rangers (5-2 L)
2012-02-19 Flyers Carnival*
2012-03-01 Islanders (6-3 W)
2012-03-06 Red Wings (3-2 W)
2012-03-08 Panthers (5-0 W)
2012-03-18 Penguins (3-2 W)
Montreal (3/24)
Sabres (4/5)
Gone 3-0 since getting the Giroux jersey signed by Voracek and Timonen. The Read jersey is going to be in the closet a long time if this keeps up.
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Brodeur gets 650th win vs. the Flyers, he might stick around after next season to see if he gets 700.
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Nice Nick..but it's upside down! :D
I love Bill Clement. Really miss him and Gary Thorne doing the games. They were the best!
Bruins...What the hell??
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Yeah, the B's are limping into the playoffs. nevermind that they've been playing bad but now injuries galore. Not the way you want to head into the playoffs.
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Nice Nick..but it's upside down! :D
I love Bill Clement. Really miss him and Gary Thorne doing the games. They were the best!
Yeah, I was really struck by the fact that I was actually holding the ring and ended up putting it on so I could see it correctly. Doesn't help I've never worn a ring a day in my life.
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.....told you....Jamie McGinn!
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.....told you....Jamie McGinn!
man is a monster!! Loving the trade so far.
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I actually went to Mortuary college with one of his cousins.
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Had a really cool experience today. My girlfriend bought Bill Clement's book at the game tonight as he was there doing a signing, and as I went through the line with her I noticed he had his Stanley Cup ring on the table and let a kid get a picture with it on. So I couldn't resist asking when we got up to him...
(https://www.nickeh.com/images/champring.jpg)
An actual Stanley Cup (replica I assume) ring. How fucking awesome is that.
Also, I don't remember who, but someone needs to fess up and admit they got the call on the Red Wings/Flyers game wrong a few months back. :p
At Game Record: 7-4-4
2011-10-15 Kings (3-2 OT)
2011-11-05 Columbus (9-2 W)
2011-11-17 Coyotes (2-1 W)
2011-11-21 Hurricanes (4-2 L)
2011-12-17 Bruins (6-0 L)
2011-12-31 Alumni Game (3-1 W)*
2012-01-02 Rangers (Winter Classic) (3-2 L)
2012-01-05 Chicago (5-4 W)
2012-01-17 Wild (5-1 W)
2012-01-22 Bruins (6-5 OT)
2012-01-31 Jets (2-1 OT)
2012-02-07 Islanders (1-0 OT)
2012-02-11 Rangers (5-2 L)
2012-02-19 Flyers Carnival*
2012-03-01 Islanders (6-3 W)
2012-03-06 Red Wings (3-2 W)
2012-03-08 Panthers (5-0 W)
Penguins (3/18)
Montreal (3/24)
Sabres (4/5)
Gone 3-0 since getting the Giroux jersey signed by Voracek and Timonen. The Read jersey is going to be in the closet a long time if this keeps up.
Bill Clement is the nicest of guys. I've heard he lives about a half-hour away from here and people have seen him while grocery shopping. Haven't picked up his book yet, but I plan on it. He's far more talented than what passed for work on ESPN and I'm kind of glad he left OLN/VERSUS/NBC Sports/Universal/ Vivendi a year after the last lockout. He's much better than what they had him doing.
He hosted a Stanley Cup party for charity at Bucks County Community College about 4 years ago which I was lucky enough to find out about. I got a lot of flak from Flyers fans for being there, but the Stanley Cup was there and it was for charity so I maintain my rights to have been there. Even caught some good-natured crap from Bill that day, but he realized what the day was about. I wished I'd gotten more pictures.
Looks like the Islanders are headed for Mortuary college in the last season before yet another work stoppage.
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Brodeur has been playing like a young Brodeur lately, and got himself a shutout #118 last night in a fun as hell game versus the Avalanche. Now the St. Marty's day showdown with the Pens awaits. I can't wait to go, it's going to be one drunk and fun atmosphere.
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Are you guys going to knock Sid back out, or do we have to do that on Sunday?
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i think salvador might have a go at it if need be but it seems teams don't want to injure him.
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i think salvador might have a go at it if need be but it seems teams don't want to injure him.
How do you figure?
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Ottawa just got moosed. i think we have 6th place.
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Real tough loss tonight. One really crazy and unlucky bounce decided the game.
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The opening puck drop to the Rangers/Devils the other night had to be one of the coolest things I've ever seen in all of my years watching hockey!
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The opening puck drop to the Rangers/Devils the other night had to be one of the coolest things I've ever seen in all of my years watching hockey!
Cool for you maybe.
I'd be more impressed if it happened in the playoffs.
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well if we face the rags in the playoffs, i guarantee something like that will happen after the faceoff. torts started it, we replied, now it's his turn again.
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Watched the end of the Rangers/ Wings game last night. What a great 3rd period. Ryan Callahan is an impressive player.
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Coyotes/Avs game tonight could make or break someone's playoff push. I'll be there!
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I"m getting more hopeful of seeing the bruins in the playoffs everyday!
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I'm getting more hopeful of... oh wait, Flyers already clinched. :D
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15 year anniversary for the greatest series of asskickings delivered on ice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOCXfu_mWyY&feature=related (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOCXfu_mWyY&feature=related) Each Av lost his fight, and that piece of shit claude lemeiux (I won't even give him the dignity of capitalizing his name) got the worst of it and turtled like the bitch he is.
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I've checked this a couple of months ago.
It's so great, when the current head discipliner Brendan Shanahan tackles Patrick Roy. The irony.
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15 year anniversary for the greatest series of asskickings delivered on ice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOCXfu_mWyY&feature=related (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOCXfu_mWyY&feature=related) Each Av lost his fight, and that piece of shit claude lemeiux (I won't even give him the dignity of capitalizing his name) got the worst of it and turtled like the bitch he is.
Maybe he wouldn't have turtled if Draper had been man enough to fight him instead of having McCarty get his revenge for him.
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(https://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/MichealJacksonPopcorn.gif)
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Kev as a B's fan I feel the same way about Claude Lemeiux DTVT does.
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That's fine, but it's just comical how Red Wings fans have been thumping their chests over that for 15 years now. Yes, Lemeiux deserved a butt-kicking, but Draper should have manned up and fought him himself. This is like getting into an argument with a kid in 4th grade and then getting your big brother who is in 7th grade to beat the guy up for you.
Plus, Lemeiux turtled because when he was getting pummeled before he even knew he was in a fight, but they fought again the next season, and while he didn't win, he didn't turtle. That second fight was basically a draw. I can't believe I am almost defending Lemeiux (who was a punk), but to hell with the Red Wings fans and their chest-thumping over that nonsense.
Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kou0p5oI4Xk&feature=related Look at 3:51. That is a cheap shot. Yes, Lemeiux deserved it, but let's not act like that was a real fight. Any other time, the player that did what McCarty did would have been called a thug and a cheap shot artist for wailing out of nowhere on a guy like that.
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Final week of the fantasy hockey season, time for Ryan Miller and Ilya Bryzgalov to lead me to glory :metal
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A must watch for all hockey fans. A new great add by the Bruins done like an 80's sitcom. Their marketing execs do it right.
Warning Do not drink while watching! :lol
Also David Krejci FTW!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDmS9ACPT8w&hd=1
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Hah, I was cracking up at the Zdeno part.
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I can't wait to see these episodes. Too damn funny.
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Wait, they are actually making episodes? Like 2 minutes clips I'm assuming, not full blown 20 minute things?
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Yes it is. About a minute and a half per episode.
Can't you imagine a Canadians fan downloading the B's app on their phone to watch it?! :lol
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That is fantastic!
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Thoroughly enjoyed watching the a$$ whoopin' the Blues laid on the Predators last night :metal Killed them in EVERY aspect from # of hits, face offs won and eventually the 3-0 score. 15th shutout for the Blues this year, third in a ROW for Elliot.
Very excited for the playoffs to begin because honestly, I personally don't believe there is a team out there that can win 4 of 7 against the Blues. I know the games have to be played and that the playoffs are a whole new series.....but man.....it's a good time to be a Lifelong Blues fan!
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Thoroughly enjoyed watching the a$$ whoopin' the Blues laid on the Predators last night :metal Killed them in EVERY aspect from # of hits, face offs won and eventually the 3-0 score. 15th shutout for the Blues this year, third in a ROW for Elliot.
Very excited for the playoffs to begin because honestly, I personally don't believe there is a team out there that can win 4 of 7 against the Blues. I know the games have to be played and that the playoffs are a whole new series.....but man.....it's a good time to be a Lifelong Blues fan!
OMG, don't say that! You'll jinx them. :lol
But I hear ya. It is a great time to be a Blues fan. What a season it has been. One more regulation win and the Blues clinch the Central. Doing it tonight against the hated Blackhawks would just be icing on the cake. :hat
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For whatever reason I just don't see the Blues doing it. It's not much more than a gut feeling, but I don't think they'll make the finals. I'm sure their tending will hold up, but I just expect the rest of the team to buckle a bit.
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I've said for a while that the offense not producing enough is what could hurt them come playoff time; that is my biggest worry. So, it wouldn't surprise me if that was their undoing, but regardless, this is an exciting time for fans. :coolio
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That is fantastic!
bummer about the Av's I think they're pretty much toast.
We'll see what Geroux vs. Spezza battle looks like on Saturday Nick.
You'll also get a nice look at a Norris Trophy finalist...and the plus/minus leader.
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I've said for a while that the offense not producing enough is what could hurt them come playoff time; that is my biggest worry. So, it wouldn't surprise me if that was their undoing, but regardless, this is an exciting time for fans. :coolio
No doubt. As hopeful as some were I don't think anybody was predicting the Blues would be where they are right now at this point in the season.
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That is fantastic!
bummer about the Av's I think they're pretty much toast.
We'll see what Geroux vs. Spezza battle looks like on Saturday Nick.
You'll also get a nice look at a Norris Trophy finalist...and the plus/minus leader.
Oh yeah, there's like 3.5% chance of the Avs making the playoffs now. I use this amazing site https://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL.html
It's sad that they made such a strong push there for a bit, but the record against division/conference teams is the problem. Avs have a great record against the east, but can't compete in the west. They also have almost half of the amount of power plays as any other team, they need to work on drawing penalties. Still much better than last year! Hopefully next year continues the progression.
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That Bruin thing was pretty funny Joe, more for the 80s feel than anything.
Right now the Blues goaltending is just unreal, they're both standing on their head. The team is peaking at the right time, and I'm not looking forward to a second round match-up with them...except they're the Blues which means a stunning collapse is expected, I just hope its when they play us and not after.
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I almost expect the Blackhawks to upset whoever the 3 seed is, so a Blues/Red Wings 2nd round matchup is not guaranteed (since they reseed after every round). In fact, not even the Blues or Canucks are guaranteed first round winners. Whoever the 7 and 8 seeds are are likely to go into the playoffs on fire. I don't want to play the Kings; Quick scares me. And Red Wings/Predators (assuming both finish 4 and 5) will be a war.
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i don't know about west but east 3rd place doesn't get 'upset'. devils fans are salivating thinking about playing the panthers. 6th place is the golden posession.
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Thoroughly enjoyed watching the a$$ whoopin' the Blues laid on the Predators last night :metal Killed them in EVERY aspect from # of hits, face offs won and eventually the 3-0 score. 15th shutout for the Blues this year, third in a ROW for Elliot.
Very excited for the playoffs to begin because honestly, I personally don't believe there is a team out there that can win 4 of 7 against the Blues. I know the games have to be played and that the playoffs are a whole new series.....but man.....it's a good time to be a Lifelong Blues fan!
OMG, don't say that! You'll jinx them. :lol
But I hear ya. It is a great time to be a Blues fan. What a season it has been. One more regulation win and the Blues clinch the Central. Doing it tonight against the hated Blackhawks would just be icing on the cake. :hat
Kev you know as well as I do I couldn't possibly put a greater jinx or hex on them than they already have!!! :lol I'm just excited they are firing on all cylinders heading towards the playoffs. Will they win the cup? Talent wise they are just as if not more talented than any team out there. Problem is there is virtually no playoff experience on that team...a couple guys and that's it. I'd say they win thier first series and second round goes 7. If they win that, then well....we shall see.
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I've said for a while that the offense not producing enough is what could hurt them come playoff time; that is my biggest worry. So, it wouldn't surprise me if that was their undoing, but regardless, this is an exciting time for fans. :coolio
No doubt. As hopeful as some were I don't think anybody was predicting the Blues would be where they are right now at this point in the season.
What adds to the excitment is that these players are here for the next few years. Oshie and Perron are restricted free agents, but I'm almost certain they will re-sign with the Blues. I think if the Blues were ever going to win the Cup...the next 3-4 years will be thier time.
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That Bruin thing was pretty funny Joe, more for the 80s feel than anything.
If someone posts the webesodes I'll post them here. On the HFBoards forums, they made a few great GIF's out of a few players for the link already. :lol
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Anaheim is out.
My dad owes me a pizza :biggrin:.
I'm actually again interested in NHL, the first time in five years. I just don't have a favourite team anymore.
I hope that Flyers or Canucks win the Cup, so Timonen or Salo can have it. They both would deserve it.
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I really don't care about home ice against Pittsburgh, as we own the Consol energy center, so I'm actually hoping for a loss against the Sabres this week and either a win against the Pens (likely) or a loss to the Rangers (really likely) in order to solidify a PA opening match and hopefully to get the Sabres playing the Rangers.
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I love all the posturing and jockying by coaches and managers for "their guy" to win various individual awards.
That Damian Cox gets to be included in any kind of voting or determination is a travesty.
All the Toronto sports writers have such a hate-on for ANYTHING OTTAWA he doesn't even have Eric Karlsson in his final three Norris is an embarassment to anything he says or does.
lol....the best I heard though was Paul Barer I mean Ken Hitchcock calling Eric and "offensemen"......will pimping his big defensemen...whoever it is...who can only be effective at home with the last change and match ups. Whatever. Even if Eric had scored 100 points and was a +50 the Ottawa Senators will never win any kind of award that writers get to vote on.
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Karlsson shouldn't be a Norris candidate. Hitchcock is right. He is an "Offencemen" (great term BTW!)
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That's bullshit. Karlsson has been the best defenseman this year. First in defensemen in GVT. First in defensemen in point shares. First by a mile in points.
Compare the way Karlsson affects his team when compared to other top defensemen:
(https://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/7933879/640/7933879.png)
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Karlsson shouldn't be a Norris candidate. Hitchcock is right. He is an "Offencemen" (great term BTW!)
Karlsson's played less than 50 minutes ALL YEAR on the penalty kill. If he is such a great "defensmen" then why isn't he out there killing penalties? That's when the 'good' defensmen play...to shut down opportunities like that. Hitchcock is 'pimping' Petrangelo because he should. Petrangelo plays virtually every PK, nearly the entire PK AND QB's the PP. By definition of the word 'defensmen', Petrangelo is better than Karlsson hands down. Petrangelo may not be as 'offensive' as Karlsson, but he still has somewhere in the mid 40's in points (along with Shattenkirk who has 40 something as well) I am unfamiliar with Karlssons defense partners and would be curious to see if the points are spread out like they are on the Blues or if it's only Karlsson getting them. Petrangelo plays against the opposing teams top line night after night and plays something like 25 minutes a game...to me there really is no comparisson, Petro is a better 'defensmen'...plain and simple.
I get the 'hype' over Karlsson....the dude is phoenominal and fun to watch, a great 'offensive' defensman, but Hitchcocks assesment of him is dead on. The issue is the Norris Trophy is like the 'Gold Glove' in Baseball....rarely does the best 'defensive' player at that position win it like the awards name would suggest. The offensive element for whatever reason usually decides the winner. Doesn't matter anyway if you ask me because this is only Petro's second season....he will be winning that thing season after season Lidstom style in no time given his rate of development and the fact he's only 23.
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So if I'm reading the chart right Chara's Goals For when he's On the ice is actually great than Karlsson's?
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Karlsson shouldn't be a Norris candidate. Hitchcock is right. He is an "Offencemen" (great term BTW!)
Karlsson's played less than 50 minutes ALL YEAR on the penalty kill. If he is such a great "defensmen" then why isn't he out there killing penalties? That's when the 'good' defensmen play...to shut down opportunities like that. Hitchcock is 'pimping' Petrangelo because he should. Petrangelo plays virtually every PK, nearly the entire PK AND QB's the PP. By definition of the word 'defensmen', Petrangelo is better than Karlsson hands down. Petrangelo may not be as 'offensive' as Karlsson, but he still has somewhere in the mid 40's in points (along with Shattenkirk who has 40 something as well) I am unfamiliar with Karlssons defense partners and would be curious to see if the points are spread out like they are on the Blues or if it's only Karlsson getting them. Petrangelo plays against the opposing teams top line night after night and plays something like 25 minutes a game...to me there really is no comparisson, Petro is a better 'defensmen'...plain and simple.
I get the 'hype' over Karlsson....the dude is phoenominal and fun to watch, a great 'offensive' defensman, but Hitchcocks assesment of him is dead on. The issue is the Norris Trophy is like the 'Gold Glove' in Baseball....rarely does the best 'defensive' player at that position win it like the awards name would suggest. The offensive element for whatever reason usually decides the winner. Doesn't matter anyway if you ask me because this is only Petro's second season....he will be winning that thing season after season Lidstom style in no time given his rate of development and the fact he's only 23.
Karlsson doesn't play on the PK because it doesn't make sense for him to play on the PK (most of the time). If you've got the best even-strength and powerplay defenceman in the league, why the hell would any sane coach waste his minutes by playing him on the penalty kill? Karlsson's good at penalty killing. He's probably 2nd or 3rd best on the Senators (after Phillips, probably tied with Kuba). However, he is only marginally better than the 4th or 5th options. Why would it make sense to play Karlsson in a situation where he is only marginally better than the other options, when you could play him in situations where he is by far the best option? Sidney Crosby is a good penalty killer, but you don't see him getting any PK time (7 seconds per game). Why? Because he's better used in other situations.
Karlsson gets more PK time than that, but it's strategic and limited. He typically plays the PK near the end of games when Ottawa's protecting a lead, because it makes sense for Ottawa to have their best PKers out in that situation. He also plays at the end of PKs (typically after face-offs) to help spur an offensive transition. The way he's used by his coach reflects the strengths of his game. Just because Malkin doesn't play the PK doesn't mean he's not a valuable player, or the most valuable player. His coach realizes that it's asinine to have the league's best offensive player killing penalties when he could be scoring goals. Ditto for Karlsson.
Also, Karlsson's defense partner is Filip Kuba. He's solid, reliable, a decent puck-mover. Not too fast, not too flashy. You wondered if the points are spread out like on the Blues (where Shattenkirk and Pietrangelo, partners, are relatively similar at 42 and 50 points respectively)? Well, Kuba has 31 points... to Karlsson's 77. He has more points than Ottawa's other two puck-movers (Kuba and Gonchar) combined. He's 10th in scoring (Chara's 77th, Pietrangelo 89th) and would lead 23 teams in that category. All this while playing against the top lines of the opposition in a shut-down capacity.
So if I'm reading the chart right Chara's Goals For when he's On the ice is actually great than Karlsson's?
Yes. But that's because Boston is a better team than Ottawa, with significantly more offensive depth. Compare the two when they're on and off the ice. And note that even though both face off against the best competition, when Karlsson steps on the ice, the goals scored against Ottawa go down, even while he's providing a boost of over a goal for.
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Karlsson shouldn't be a Norris candidate. Hitchcock is right. He is an "Offencemen" (great term BTW!)
Karlsson's played less than 50 minutes ALL YEAR on the penalty kill. If he is such a great "defensmen" then why isn't he out there killing penalties? That's when the 'good' defensmen play...to shut down opportunities like that. Hitchcock is 'pimping' Petrangelo because he should. Petrangelo plays virtually every PK, nearly the entire PK AND QB's the PP. By definition of the word 'defensmen', Petrangelo is better than Karlsson hands down. Petrangelo may not be as 'offensive' as Karlsson, but he still has somewhere in the mid 40's in points (along with Shattenkirk who has 40 something as well) I am unfamiliar with Karlssons defense partners and would be curious to see if the points are spread out like they are on the Blues or if it's only Karlsson getting them. Petrangelo plays against the opposing teams top line night after night and plays something like 25 minutes a game...to me there really is no comparisson, Petro is a better 'defensmen'...plain and simple.
I get the 'hype' over Karlsson....the dude is phoenominal and fun to watch, a great 'offensive' defensman, but Hitchcocks assesment of him is dead on. The issue is the Norris Trophy is like the 'Gold Glove' in Baseball....rarely does the best 'defensive' player at that position win it like the awards name would suggest. The offensive element for whatever reason usually decides the winner. Doesn't matter anyway if you ask me because this is only Petro's second season....he will be winning that thing season after season Lidstom style in no time given his rate of development and the fact he's only 23.
Karlsson doesn't play on the PK because it doesn't make sense for him to play on the PK (most of the time). If you've got the best even-strength and powerplay defenceman in the league, why the hell would any sane coach waste his minutes by playing him on the penalty kill? Karlsson's good at penalty killing. He's probably 2nd or 3rd best on the Senators (after Phillips, probably tied with Kuba). However, he is only marginally better than the 4th or 5th options. Why would it make sense to play Karlsson in a situation where he is only marginally better than the other options, when you could play him in situations where he is by far the best option? Sidney Crosby is a good penalty killer, but you don't see him getting any PK time (7 seconds per game). Why? Because he's better used in other situations.
Karlsson gets more PK time than that, but it's strategic and limited. He typically plays the PK near the end of games when Ottawa's protecting a lead, because it makes sense for Ottawa to have their best PKers out in that situation. He also plays at the end of PKs (typically after face-offs) to help spur an offensive transition. The way he's used by his coach reflects the strengths of his game. Just because Malkin doesn't play the PK doesn't mean he's not a valuable player, or the most valuable player. His coach realizes that it's asinine to have the league's best offensive player killing penalties when he could be scoring goals. Ditto for Karlsson.
Also, Karlsson's defense partner is Filip Kuba. He's solid, reliable, a decent puck-mover. Not too fast, not too flashy. You wondered if the points are spread out like on the Blues (where Shattenkirk and Pietrangelo, partners, are relatively similar at 42 and 50 points respectively)? Well, Kuba has 31 points... to Karlsson's 77. He has more points than Ottawa's other two puck-movers (Kuba and Gonchar) combined. He's 10th in scoring (Chara's 77th, Pietrangelo 89th) and would lead 23 teams in that category. All this while playing against the top lines of the opposition in a shut-down capacity.
To be fair and so I clarify...the only thing I know about Karlsson are from the highlights and the few articles here and there. I'm sure he's a good defensmen...you don't earn 70+ points by just showing up....but just as you or any other guy wants to tought 'thier' guy....I'm here to tell you Petrangelo will win multiple Norris Trophies before his career is all said and done. He IS that good. He's just now starting to 'fill out' his body and is only going to get stronger.
I just don't tend to agree that a defensmen 'has' to have a ton of points to even be considered for the Norris Trophy since it's an award based on the leagues best 'defensive defensman'.....that's just me though. There is something to be said for a 'd' man who can rack up points and remain a 'solid' defensmen.
And just so you know...Shattenkirk isn't his line mate....so thier 'shared' points usually come from the PP, other than that they rarely if ever play together.
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Karlsson shouldn't be a Norris candidate. Hitchcock is right. He is an "Offencemen" (great term BTW!)
Karlsson's played less than 50 minutes ALL YEAR on the penalty kill. If he is such a great "defensmen" then why isn't he out there killing penalties? That's when the 'good' defensmen play...to shut down opportunities like that. Hitchcock is 'pimping' Petrangelo because he should. Petrangelo plays virtually every PK, nearly the entire PK AND QB's the PP. By definition of the word 'defensmen', Petrangelo is better than Karlsson hands down. Petrangelo may not be as 'offensive' as Karlsson, but he still has somewhere in the mid 40's in points (along with Shattenkirk who has 40 something as well) I am unfamiliar with Karlssons defense partners and would be curious to see if the points are spread out like they are on the Blues or if it's only Karlsson getting them. Petrangelo plays against the opposing teams top line night after night and plays something like 25 minutes a game...to me there really is no comparisson, Petro is a better 'defensmen'...plain and simple.
I get the 'hype' over Karlsson....the dude is phoenominal and fun to watch, a great 'offensive' defensman, but Hitchcocks assesment of him is dead on. The issue is the Norris Trophy is like the 'Gold Glove' in Baseball....rarely does the best 'defensive' player at that position win it like the awards name would suggest. The offensive element for whatever reason usually decides the winner. Doesn't matter anyway if you ask me because this is only Petro's second season....he will be winning that thing season after season Lidstom style in no time given his rate of development and the fact he's only 23.
Karlsson doesn't play on the PK because it doesn't make sense for him to play on the PK (most of the time). If you've got the best even-strength and powerplay defenceman in the league, why the hell would any sane coach waste his minutes by playing him on the penalty kill? Karlsson's good at penalty killing. He's probably 2nd or 3rd best on the Senators (after Phillips, probably tied with Kuba). However, he is only marginally better than the 4th or 5th options. Why would it make sense to play Karlsson in a situation where he is only marginally better than the other options, when you could play him in situations where he is by far the best option? Sidney Crosby is a good penalty killer, but you don't see him getting any PK time (7 seconds per game). Why? Because he's better used in other situations.
Karlsson gets more PK time than that, but it's strategic and limited. He typically plays the PK near the end of games when Ottawa's protecting a lead, because it makes sense for Ottawa to have their best PKers out in that situation. He also plays at the end of PKs (typically after face-offs) to help spur an offensive transition. The way he's used by his coach reflects the strengths of his game. Just because Malkin doesn't play the PK doesn't mean he's not a valuable player, or the most valuable player. His coach realizes that it's asinine to have the league's best offensive player killing penalties when he could be scoring goals. Ditto for Karlsson.
Also, Karlsson's defense partner is Filip Kuba. He's solid, reliable, a decent puck-mover. Not too fast, not too flashy. You wondered if the points are spread out like on the Blues (where Shattenkirk and Pietrangelo, partners, are relatively similar at 42 and 50 points respectively)? Well, Kuba has 31 points... to Karlsson's 77. He has more points than Ottawa's other two puck-movers (Kuba and Gonchar) combined. He's 10th in scoring (Chara's 77th, Pietrangelo 89th) and would lead 23 teams in that category. All this while playing against the top lines of the opposition in a shut-down capacity.
To be fair and so I clarify...the only thing I know about Karlsson are from the highlights and the few articles here and there. I'm sure he's a good defensmen...you don't earn 70+ points by just showing up....but just as you or any other guy wants to tought 'thier' guy....I'm here to tell you Petrangelo will win multiple Norris Trophies before his career is all said and done. He IS that good. He's just now starting to 'fill out' his body and is only going to get stronger.
I think Pietrangelo is one of the best defencemen in the league. I think he should have won the Norris last year. I think he will continue to be one of the best defencemen in the league.
But Norrises are based off a single season. Karlsson's season right now, is historic. I think he absolutely deserves it this year. I don't know (but I hope) he'll be able to keep up this kind of production, but if he does he would become an all-time great.
I just don't tend to agree that a defensmen 'has' to have a ton of points to even be considered for the Norris Trophy since it's an award based on the leagues best 'defensive defensman'.....that's just me though. There is something to be said for a 'd' man who can rack up points and remain a 'solid' defensmen.
And just so you know...Shattenkirk isn't his line mate....so thier 'shared' points usually come from the PP, other than that they rarely if ever play together.
Damnit, I thought it was Shattenkirk... but you're right, it is Colaiacovo.
As for the Norris, it's not about the best defensive defenceman. It's given to the defenceman "who demonstrates throughout the season the greatest all-round ability in the position."
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gmill, can you rank for me the Blues' D-men 1-6?
Just curious. Regretably I have watched basically no Blues games. Even missed the game against the Bruins.
Losing Boychuck will hurt. He's the B's #3 D-man.
Thomas, Chara, Bergeron not even making the trip to Ottawa for game. I would've left Seidenberg home too!
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gmill, can you rank for me the Blues' D-men 1-6?
Sure, remember this is MY opinion. I've watched 95% of the Blues games since about 90' so here you go:
1. Petrangelo . Being only 23 and the level he's playing at...it's remarkable to watch him every night. Not super 'physical' but his positioning is near impossible to overcome and he plays against the best every
night and is put in EVERY important situation of a game.
2. Roman Polak. A lot of guys may say Shattenkirk is the 2nd best, but Polak is a BEAST. Like Petro his positioning is good. He gets penalties called on him because he is just too strong. He's like Lenny from 'Of
Mice and Men' Dude just pummels people with hits....just strong. He's fast, good shot, good passing...knows when to jump in the play and has great defensive sense.
3. Shattenkirk. He is very skilled, plays a great positioning defense (positioning is what the Blues D survives on) because he's not a big fella. Jumps in the play a lot and is 'offensive' minded. Kind of fiesty as well.
4. Barret Jackman. There are people in StL that HATE him. It's because there for a couple years he was being asked to play 25 minutes a game, and he just can't. Now that his ice time is down aroun 20 min. or so
he's been pretty reliable and solid. His leadership is very apparent and he is VERY a solid D man. A great veteren guy to have back there. He's tough and blocks a TON of shots.
5. Russel. He moves the puck from the defensive zone pretty quick, good passes and usually jumps in the play at the right time. Good positional player and blocks some shots. But he, Cole and Huskins are shifted
in and out of the line up a lot....plus he's overcoming a concussion also (who isn't)
6. I guess Coliacovo cuz he plays the most. (I'd prefer Cole) I can't stand the guy but he's been paired with Petro for Petro's career and they play well together. Coliacovo coughs the puck up a lot and is 'soft'
IMO. I mean, he gets the job done...but I'm not a fan of him. Especially when we have a really good young Defensman in Ian Cole kind of waiting for time and Huskins who is a saavy veteren as well who won a cup
with the Ducks.
That's MY assesment, I'd ask KevShmev also cuz he's a Blues fan as well. Plus, I'd be curious to how he ranked them. Kev....what do you think?
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You know. It's so hard to judge by numbers. I don't see much of Karlsson except vs the B's. Does he play the top line every night like Chara GP? So damn hard when you're married and you watch to many local sports already. :lol
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Thanks for the info. Strange thing because it seems the same teams from the West get televised. Seen lots of Hawks, Wings, Sharks, but no Blues. I know the GA is beastly. Hopefully their playoff games will be shown here.
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Hey King, what about that Letang play last night?
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Thanks for the info. Strange thing because it seems the same teams from the West get televised. Seen lots of Hawks, Wings, Sharks, but no Blues. I know the GA is beastly. Hopefully their playoff games will be shown here.
You get the NHL network TAC?
Edit. Too much of that fake high stick crap. I've hated the 2 ref system for a long, long time but that was a prime example of why it fails. The ref that called it was behind Letang so he couldn't see the stick was no close to the face at all. The other ref should huddle together and make the right call there and Letang gets 2.
That's one of the main reason I don't like the 2 ref system.
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I'm not much of a hockey fan but I have to root for my local team the San Jose Sharks. Squeezing into the playoffs with a push! I hope they do well in and maybe without the pressure of being a high seed and top team they will.
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You get the NHL network TAC?
Edit. Too much of that fake high stick crap. I've hated the 2 ref system for a long, long time but that was a prime example of why it fails. The ref that called it was behind Letang so he couldn't see the stick was no close to the face at all. The other ref should huddle together and make the right call there and Letang gets 2.
That's one of the main reason I don't like the 2 ref system.
Yes, I do have the NHL Network. I watch it as much as I can, yet I still could not name 5 guys on St. Louis. I also blame the schedule for my ignorance. I mean playing a team once a year? You should have a home & home with every team.
I don't mind having two refs, but you are right in that they should have an opportunity to huddle to get the call right. How many times is there a play in the corner where you have a ref 15 feet away, but the ref at center ice makes a call?
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How many times is there a play in the corner where you have a ref 15 feet away, but the ref at center ice makes a call?
That is another thing that drive me batty with the 2 ref system. I personally liked the one ref system because the game flowed better.
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Ironically, the Blues are on tonight! :D
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Ironically, the Blues are on tonight! :D
yep. Them and Detroit have a nice little pre-playoff....playoff game going on. Both teams playing pretty good. I don't even care if the Blues win this one...just glad to see them playing like they have all year. The last couple games were a bit sloppy to say the least.
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BTW....you all should know that apparently there still is a league wide rule that you can't touch a Redwings player....it'll be a penalty.
Yeah Perron :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal Eat that shi# ref.......
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The Wings/Blues game tonight was too close for comfort! :D
I can't wait for playoffs to start...it really is the best time of year. Spring has rolled around and the most intense hockey is being played.
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BTW....you all should know that apparently there still is a league wide rule that you can't touch a Redwings player....it'll be a penalty.
But Franzen can punch Backes in the face and not get a thing. :\
And I hate shootouts. Can the playoffs now start, please?
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All Chris Neil bodychecks are penalized.
Don't worry, it's league wide.
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BTW....you all should know that apparently there still is a league wide rule that you can't touch a Redwings player....it'll be a penalty.
But Franzen can punch Backes in the face and not get a thing. :\
And I hate shootouts. Can the playoffs now start, please?
Friggin shoot outs. You know the blues have lost 11 shoot outs? And, I don't know the EXACT stat but I guarantee at least 8 of them they didn't score one friggin goal in the shoot out and the other team won just by scoring one. There really is no excuse for not scoring at least ONE friggin goal with the talent they have shooting. If they could win just 5 of those 11...they have 112pts and are far and away leading the league...but I guess a lot of teams could say the same thing about shoot outs......I'm with you , bring on the playoffs so it's next goal wins...not a shoot out where apparently the Blues players forget how to lift pucks and not shoot right into the chest or glove of the goalie.
And Franzen not getting penalized was a load of BS....right along with Steen getting a penalty for dumping Bertuzzi cuz he was in the crease mere seconds after Perron was almost paralyzed for being in the crease..but no call. I get that some calls are made, some are missed....but it sure does seem like a few of the 'favorite' teams in the league....well....I'll quit whining now. C'mon playoffs.....
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All Chris Neil bodychecks are penalized.
Don't worry, it's league wide.
I like Chris Neil.
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Officiating as a whole seems to be really bad lately in the NHL, and I have heard that from a lot of people (meaning from fans of many other teams). I wonder if the NHL is taking a cue from the NFL in regards to safety and going overboard on calling penalties on plays that threaten player safety, even if the hits are often legal and well within the rules. Given that the NFL, the most popular sport in America, is under pressure to do this, and the NHL is still a bit of a fringe sport from a popularity standpoint, it wouldn't surprise me. The way goalies are protected is similar to the way quarterbacks are protected. Yes, they always have been, but it is borderline absurd now.
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Officiating has been terrible this season. I mean, when did knocking a guy's stick out of his hand become slashing?
And they have to take out the diving and the faking.
Like that pussy move Letang made the other night. And while it's unfortunate Sedin is out with a concussion, you can't help but think there's a little karma payback happening.
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Jack Edwards (Bruins PBP guy):"Klinkhammer and Seidenberg locked up in a phonetic nightmare." :lol
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Penalties have been at an all time low for some teams. The Avalanche have had half as many power plays this season than they did 4 years ago. Not sure if its a league wide thing.
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Since getting my Giroux jersey signed by Voracek and Timonen (and wearing it to the games I went to since), the Flyers managed to go 6-0 and actually finish above an even win/loss, with a point % of 75%.
At Game Record: 10-4-4
2011-10-15 Kings (3-2 OT)
2011-11-05 Columbus (9-2 W)
2011-11-17 Coyotes (2-1 W)
2011-11-21 Hurricanes (4-2 L)
2011-12-17 Bruins (6-0 L)
2011-12-31 Alumni Game (3-1 W)*
2012-01-02 Rangers (Winter Classic) (3-2 L)
2012-01-05 Chicago (5-4 W)
2012-01-17 Wild (5-1 W)
2012-01-22 Bruins (6-5 OT)
2012-01-31 Jets (2-1 OT)
2012-02-07 Islanders (1-0 OT)
2012-02-11 Rangers (5-2 L)
2012-02-19 Flyers Carnival*
2012-03-01 Islanders (6-3 W)
2012-03-06 Red Wings (3-2 W)
2012-03-08 Panthers (5-0 W)
2012-03-18 Penguins (3-2 W)
2012-03-24 Montreal (4-1 W)
2012-04-05 Sabres (2-1 W)
Looking forward to dominated the Pens in the playoffs.
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Penalties have been at an all time low for some teams. The Avalanche have had half as many power plays this season than they did 4 years ago. Not sure if its a league wide thing.
It's lower alright.
Special team stats this year:
(https://puu.sh/ofWU)
2007-08:
(https://puu.sh/ofYb)
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Ok. Listening to a local Boston sports station has my blood boiling for something I said to all my buds for a long, long time.
Mario Lemieux, fuck off.
So they are talking about the knee to knee hit between the Penguins and the Rangers and the radio is playing an interview from a reporter after the game talking to John Tortorella and he said something I and many fans have said and thought about the Penguins organization.
Quote.
“It’s a cheap, dirty hit,” Tortorella said. “I wonder what would happen if we did that to their two whining stars over there; I wonder what would happen. So I’m anxious to see what happens with the league with this. Just no respect amongst players. None. It’s sickening.”
And this,
“It’s one of the most arrogant organizations in the league,” Tortorella said of the Penguins after Thursday’s loss. “They whine about this stuff all the time, and look what happens.”
Here is the link to the video of the interview.
https://www.sbnation.com/nhl/2012/4/6/2931177/john-tortorella-fine-pittsburgh-penguins-new-york-rangers
Now we all saw this past week when Crosby was jabbing and slashing and then got cross checked and what does the team do?! Whine about it. Mario has done it for years. While he was playing and as an owner. Remember these quotes after last years brawl with the Islanders?
"Hockey is a tough, physical game, and it always should be. But what happened Friday night on Long Island wasn't hockey. It was a travesty. It was painful to watch the game I love turn into a sideshow like that.
"The NHL had a chance to send a clear and strong message that those kinds of actions are unacceptable and embarrassing to the sport. It failed.
"We, as a league, must do a better job of protecting the integrity of the game and the safety of our players. We must make it clear that those kinds of actions will not be tolerated and will be met with meaningful disciplinary action.
"If the events relating to Friday night reflect the state of the league, I need to re-think whether I want to be a part of it."
It's amazing that this owner shut is mouth when his own player, Matt Cooke had no regards for any player on the ice killing careers but when it comes to his team it's ok. Now John Tortorella is being fines $20,000 for his comments yet someone like Ryan Miller says this about Milan Lucic and doesn't get fined?
"I'm not really going to get into that," Miller said in TD Garden. "I just stuck around because I wanted to say what a piece of [feces] I think Lucic is. Fifty pounds on me, and he runs me like that? It's unbelievable. Everyone in this city see him as a big, tough, solid player. I respected him for how hard he plays. That was gutless. Gutless. Piece of [feces]."
Mario must of complained to the league again. So all I have to say is, fuck you Mario and the Penguins and I am rooting for the Rangers or the Flyers to kick their asses in the playoffs. Rant over.
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Lucic is my most hated player in the history of sports, but I definitely agree. :-\
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Torts is a genuine, world class cunt.
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Torts is a genuine, world class cunt.
It's too bad the Penguins will be out of the playoffs before having to injure Parise, Kovalchuk or Broduer on you.
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Lucic is my most hated player in the history of sports, but I definitely agree. :-\
I thought it was Chara?! :lol
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Lucic is my most hated player in the history of sports, but I definitely agree. :-\
I thought it was Chara?! :lol
Did I say that? :lol I was probably still in an angry moment about the Pacioretty incident.
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Torts is a genuine, world class cunt.
It's too bad the Penguins will be out of the playoffs before having to injure Parise, Kovalchuk or Broduer on you.
they can't play well against us when we are locked down defensively, though flyers would be a welcome second round. we play the flyers far better.
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I am officially worried about my Blues. Every team goes through a funk over the course of an 82-game season, but they've picked a bad team to go through theirs. If they don't pull themselves out of it ASAP, they might be dead meat in the first round. :(
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Torts is a genuine, world class cunt.
It's too bad the Penguins will be out of the playoffs before having to injure Parise, Kovalchuk or Broduer on you.
they can't play well against us when we are locked down defensively, though flyers would be a welcome second round. we play the flyers far better.
I would happily welcome a 2nd round matchup with the Devils as well.
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I am officially worried about my Blues. Every team goes through a funk over the course of an 82-game season, but they've picked a bad team to go through theirs. If they don't pull themselves out of it ASAP, they might be dead meat in the first round. :(
Yeah, I felt that for almost 2 months with the B's but they've seem to right the ship. Scare for the Blues that they are having this slide going into the playoffs.
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devils can break the penalty kill record today overtaking the stars of 2000-2001 with 89.5%, pretty beastly and translates well to the playoffs.
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Boy have the Devils been on a roll the last few months Z. Great way to roll into the playoffs.
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yea i was hoping for a hot entry
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devils break the pk record, and six game winnng streak thanks to Stephen gionta, habs you mad? :biggrin:
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Going to Game 1 on thursday - Coyotes and Hawks! :caffeine:
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Flyers and Penguins is going to make one hell of a series! Go flyers :tup
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First round picks: Rangers, Bruins, Devils, Flyers, Cannucks, Blues, Blackhawks and Predators. Not a lot of surprises there, and hate to go against the Wings.
Flyers and Penguins is going to make one hell of a series! Go flyers :tup
Agree, but I think the best hockey is going to be seen in Nashville/Detroit. That will most likely be 7 games, and all of them close.
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First round picks: Rangers, Bruins, Devils, Flyers, Cannucks, Blues, Blackhawks and Predators. Not a lot of surprises there, and hate to go against the Wings.
Flyers and Penguins is going to make one hell of a series! Go flyers :tup
Agree, but I think the best hockey is going to be seen in Nashville/Detroit. That will most likely be 7 games, and all of them close.
Makes the Radulov thing look a tad more unfair considering the way he's played.
Maybe Stevie Y should come out of retirement and play for the Wings
Don't worry about Torts.
he won't be around long.
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First round picks: Rangers, Bruins, Devils, Flyers, Cannucks, Blues, Blackhawks and Predators. Not a lot of surprises there, and hate to go against the Wings.
Flyers and Penguins is going to make one hell of a series! Go flyers :tup
Agree, but I think the best hockey is going to be seen in Nashville/Detroit. That will most likely be 7 games, and all of them close.
Yeah, Nashville and Detroit are going to beat the crap out of each other for 7 games. I mean Detroit is Detroit. No matter how "bad" a year they had (to thier standards) that team is just solid and in the playoffs they are brutal to play year after year no matter who is on thier team. I could be biased since I've had to watch them crush my dreams over and over being a Blues fan. I'd like nothing better (as a Blues fan) to have the opportunity to eliminate Detroit from the playoffs...but...I am glad those two teams are going to kill each other for a week and a half.
But, Nashville on the other hand has Rinne in goal who appears to be on a mission and a group of hard workers. I am sooooo glad that one of them will be gone no matter what as the playoffs continue.....assuming the Blues take care of business....it'll be nice having one of those teams out of the way.
If the in-experienced Blues can play to thier potential and handle the more experienced but less talented (IMO) Sharks...then I am not really worried about the Blues. I think if they get out of the first round they can make a good run....IMO it all comes down to Game 1. We (the Blues) need to come out and set the tone..get the 'W'....and get on a roll. Htichcock still hasn't announced who's in goal as of yet and frankly I really don't care who is. Either Elliot or Halak will do...I'd prefer Halak but won't gripe if it's Elliot. I still think he'll rotate them in the playoffs as well and why not? It worked well in the season.
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I'll be at Consol Energy Center for the Pens/Flyers game Wednesday night. Hell yes.
Go Pens!
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The only game the Pens have won there against us is the one that didn't matter, we own that building.
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The only game the Pens have won there against us is the one that didn't matter, we own that building.
We'll see.
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Rangers are toast and the Bruins just might be too...
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Rangers are toast and the Bruins just might be too...
I wouldn't put money on the outcome of either of those two series.
Really...who knows what will happen.
Having Backstrom back and the Bruins being sort of ho-hum makes that one a toss up, and which Ottawa team shows up.....? The one that was SUPPOSED to finish last? Or the one, that at times this season, looks like it can't lose.
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Good start by the Flyers. :lol :lol
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Good start by the Flyers. :lol :lol
While it's not good, if the rest of the season is any indication we may just have them right where we want them. With the huge youth movement in Philly, the Boston series a few years back, and the fact that we're not the most physical team in the league I think we really need to change out moniker from Broad Street Bullies to the Comeback Kids.
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I don't like either Pittsburgh or Philly, but that 3rd Pittsburgh goal was absolute bullshit. Should have been icing, how angering...
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The refs made a call and waved it off, don't see the problem there, especially since it is hard to tell whether or not the Pens player touched it at center ice. The Briere goal more than made up for it anyways, so no more complaints.
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Tie game in the burgh. Nick might have been right.
Good start by the Flyers. :lol :lol
While it's not good, if the rest of the season is any indication we may just have them right where we want them.
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3-3 now. Great comeback by Philly!
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lolPenguins.
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Great comeback. Wow.
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lolPenguins.
QFT. :lol
As much as I give credit to the Flyers, frankly there was no winning that game without some good ol lolPenguins play.
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Penguins really should own those lolFlyers. Inb4 Nick gets mad. (yeah I know Flyers won but that's just one game obviously)
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Penguins really should own those lolFlyers. Inb4 Nick gets mad. (yeah I know Flyers won but that's just one game obviously)
Why? They may have the bigger stars, but we have the better team.
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I'm just hoping that Penguins goes through. (obviously since I'm a fan) Just a little casual rivalry, that's all. :lol
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Penguins really should own those lolFlyers. Inb4 Nick gets mad. (yeah I know Flyers won but that's just one game obviously)
Why? They may have the bigger stars, but we have the better team.
That... isn't true.
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I'm perfectly happy with all the teams that won yesterday. YAY!
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Is there a way both the penguins and the flyers could get eliminated in their series? :lol
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Penguins really should own those lolFlyers. Inb4 Nick gets mad. (yeah I know Flyers won but that's just one game obviously)
Why? They may have the bigger stars, but we have the better team.
That... isn't true.
We'll find out soon enough, won't we?
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Penguins really should own those lolFlyers. Inb4 Nick gets mad. (yeah I know Flyers won but that's just one game obviously)
Why? They may have the bigger stars, but we have the better team.
That... isn't true.
We'll find out soon enough, won't we?
7 games is a pretty meaningless sample size. I think that the course of the regular season has shown undoubtedly that the Penguins are the better team.
Doesn't mean the Flyers can't or won't beat them.
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I think that the course of the regular season has shown undoubtedly that the Penguins are the better team.
Being five points better over an 82-game season shows that you are undoubtedly better? Er, no. Especially when the Penguins had five more shootout wins than the Flyers (which account for the five point advantage).
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7 games is a pretty meaningless sample size.
Disagree. Especially when it comes to determining who moves on to win thier sports grand prize. Best of 7 series forces you to put up or shut up as a team. Not have your 40 goal scorer go win the series for you but have everyone put it on the line. If you played great all year and are #1 then you get the benifit of playing the 'weakest' team that made the playoffs. Go out and prove you're the best and beat them.
The playoffs, in any sport, is the time of the season where the best 'teams' win and succeed. Records, rankings...all stats are out the window and your best 'team' will win almost every time. Happened last year in Baseball and Football....it'll happen this year in Hockey....the best 'team' will win the Stanley Cup.
Regular seasons are there to build team dynamic and craft a line up that gives you the best chance to win the prize. Not so you can brag about scoring 60 goals, getting the most points or killing the most Penalties.
GO BLUES!!!! :metal
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I think that the course of the regular season has shown undoubtedly that the Penguins are the better team.
Being five points better over an 82-game season shows that you are undoubtedly better? Er, no. Especially when the Penguins had five more shootout wins than the Flyers (which account for the five point advantage).
Points aren't a really good way to evaluate teams. Even in as large a sample as 82 games, goals more or less come randomly, and that affects wins and losses. The way to win in hockey is to score more goals than you give up. The Penguins scored 56 more goals than they gave up; the Flyers 35. The Penguins are the better team.
Goal differential is typically a better predictor than points.7 games is a pretty meaningless sample size.
Disagree. Especially when it comes to determining who moves on to win thier sports grand prize. Best of 7 series forces you to put up or shut up as a team. Not have your 40 goal scorer go win the series for you but have everyone put it on the line. If you played great all year and are #1 then you get the benifit of playing the 'weakest' team that made the playoffs. Go out and prove you're the best and beat them.
The playoffs, in any sport, is the time of the season where the best 'teams' win and succeed. Records, rankings...all stats are out the window and your best 'team' will win almost every time. Happened last year in Baseball and Football....it'll happen this year in Hockey....the best 'team' will win the Stanley Cup.
Regular seasons are there to build team dynamic and craft a line up that gives you the best chance to win the prize. Not so you can brag about scoring 60 goals, getting the most points or killing the most Penalties.
GO BLUES!!!! :metal
Seven games is a tiny sample size. Every team this year, even the worst, have played fantastically in the stretch of seven games. Every team this year, even the best, have played terribly over a stretch of seven games.
A goalie can go hot. A goalie can go cold. One team can get a couple of lucky bounces. A ref can miss a call. The inherent randomness of sport, plus a low-scoring game, mean that anything can and will happen.
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Seven games is a tiny sample size. Every team this year, even the worst, have played fantastically in the stretch of seven games. Every team this year, even the best, have played terribly over a stretch of seven games.
A goalie can go hot. A goalie can go cold. One team can get a couple of lucky bounces. A ref can miss a call. The inherent randomness of sport, plus a low-scoring game, mean that anything can and will happen.
The point is that every team knows that the series they are in could be there last of the season. Every team and each player on that team plays for one reason and that is to win the Championship....to go down in history as a member of a Championship team. Hot or Cold Goalie? Oh well....that is thier job to get hot...if they're cold...it's the coaches job to switch them or motivate them, his teammates job to 'pick him up'. A missed call by a ref will not decide the outcome of a series. Lucky bounces are a part of any game....and usually if you're team is working hard those 'lucky' bounces are created....
7 games gives any 'good' team the chance to bounce back from a bad game and if they are the better team.....still win the series. It's a perfect amount of games to figure out who the best team of those two teams is. I'm sorry but I can't agree with the argument that 7 games is not 'fair' or whatever it is you're trying to say. I heard it all last Baseball season when everyone whined about the Cardinals winning the WS....that they shouldn't have been there anyway ....blah blah blah......if you're team is better....then beat them. Plain and simple.
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I think that the course of the regular season has shown undoubtedly that the Penguins are the better team.
Being five points better over an 82-game season shows that you are undoubtedly better? Er, no. Especially when the Penguins had five more shootout wins than the Flyers (which account for the five point advantage).
Not to mention we beat the Pens 4-2 in the series, which is actually 4-1 if you discount the game at the end of the season that didn't matter for jack.
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I think that the course of the regular season has shown undoubtedly that the Penguins are the better team.
Being five points better over an 82-game season shows that you are undoubtedly better? Er, no. Especially when the Penguins had five more shootout wins than the Flyers (which account for the five point advantage).
Not to mention we beat the Pens 4-2 in the series, which is actually 4-1 if you discount the game at the end of the season that didn't matter for jack.
The Hurricanes took their series 4-0 against Boston. The Hurricanes are not better than Boston.
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Three comments about the Wings:
1) What a shitty freak injury to happen to Darren Helm. He's been one of my favorite players ever since he came up because of his work ethic. He's supposed to make a full recovery before the start of the next season, but man that's a tough loss.
2) Pekka Rinne and the Nashville blue-liners put on a show in the third period. That game could have been a lot different without their performance.
3) Shea Weber is pile of shit, he better get suspended at least one game, and deserves two for the WWE move he put on Zetterburg at the end of the game. I'd say his intent was equal to if not more than the infamous Claude Lemeiux shot on Draper; thankfully he didn't end up hurting him too bad. While his actions are bush-league at any point of the game, the NHL has to drop the hammer on him to let players know you can't take cheapshots at the end of the game.
Video if you haven't seen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9vYuFaS-1k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9vYuFaS-1k)
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I think that the course of the regular season has shown undoubtedly that the Penguins are the better team.
Being five points better over an 82-game season shows that you are undoubtedly better? Er, no. Especially when the Penguins had five more shootout wins than the Flyers (which account for the five point advantage).
Not to mention we beat the Pens 4-2 in the series, which is actually 4-1 if you discount the game at the end of the season that didn't matter for jack.
The Hurricanes took their series 4-0 against Boston. The Hurricanes are not better than Boston.
Obviously it's not the only indicator, but for two teams that are otherwise statistically equal, it does carry some weight. Obviously Philly being the better team right now is my opinion, but at the end of this series I think Pens fans will have no choice but to accept that it was the right one. :p
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The teams aren't statistically equal though. Penguins have a significantly better goal differential, much better Fenwick, and a slight edge in special teams.
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The teams aren't statistically equal though. Penguins have a significantly better goal differential, much better Fenwick, and a slight edge in special teams.
As Kev said, they are statistically equal in the stat that counts.
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The teams aren't statistically equal though. Penguins have a significantly better goal differential, much better Fenwick, and a slight edge in special teams.
As Kev said, they are statistically equal in the stat that counts.
It's not all that counts. Here's a good article about what I'm talking about. (https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/stats-guys-vs-cinderella-minnesota-wild-regressed-mean-215343871.html)
The Pittsburgh Penguins are better at possessing the puck and outshooting their opponents than the Philadelphia Flyers are. Given that the goaltending is relatively equal, over a long enough sample size, I would expect the Penguins to triumph every time.
In a seven game series, there's plenty of potential for upset. But I still think the team that's best is the team I'd bet on to win.
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Wins and losses are what matters the most. Had the Canucks won Game 7 against the Bruins last year, do you think anyone would have cared that the Bruins would have still outscored them by a crapload for the series? Except for annoying Boston fans :P, nope.
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Ok I get the numbers might be "relatively equal" but in no universe is anyone that Philly puts in nets NEAR M.A.F at his playoff best.
And I don't even like the Penguins...and really hope they lose.
GO
SENS
Go
Maclean is going with Gillroy over Carkner. Not sure anyone in Ottawa agrees. Gilly has been a huge bust...it even has some people mumbling if we were better off with Brian Lee.
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Wow, you obviously didn't watch any of the Bryzgolov footage from March. And we don't have any issues solving MAF. If we eventually have to go up against Henrik... then we're fucked.
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Wins and losses are what matters the most. Had the Canucks won Game 7 against the Bruins last year, do you think anyone would have cared that the Bruins would have still outscored them by a crapload for the series? Except for annoying Boston fans :P, nope.
They're what ultimately matters, yes. But wins don't alone determine who is the best team.
Ok I get the numbers might be "relatively equal" but in no universe is anyone that Philly puts in nets NEAR M.A.F at his playoff best.
Fleury is massively overrated. Bryzgalov is a better goalie than him, albeit marginally. He's where the Flyers have an advantage.
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Go Sharks! :metal
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Bullshit. Complete and utter bullshit. https://espn.go.com/nhl/playoffs/2012/story/_/id/7806333/2012-stanley-cup-playoffs-nhl-fines-shea-weber-blow-henrik-zetterberg-head (https://espn.go.com/nhl/playoffs/2012/story/_/id/7806333/2012-stanley-cup-playoffs-nhl-fines-shea-weber-blow-henrik-zetterberg-head)
No suspension for Weber. I guess slamming someone's head into the glass WWE style with 1 second remaining is acceptable behavior now.
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Wins and losses are what matters the most. Had the Canucks won Game 7 against the Bruins last year, do you think anyone would have cared that the Bruins would have still outscored them by a crapload for the series? Except for annoying Boston fans :P, nope.
I've got my eye on you bucko. :lol
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Bullshit. Complete and utter bullshit. https://espn.go.com/nhl/playoffs/2012/story/_/id/7806333/2012-stanley-cup-playoffs-nhl-fines-shea-weber-blow-henrik-zetterberg-head (https://espn.go.com/nhl/playoffs/2012/story/_/id/7806333/2012-stanley-cup-playoffs-nhl-fines-shea-weber-blow-henrik-zetterberg-head)
No suspension for Weber. I guess slamming someone's head into the glass WWE style with 1 second remaining is acceptable behavior now.
Sounds like Shanahan will have him on a pretty short leash going forward, though.
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Bullshit. Complete and utter bullshit. https://espn.go.com/nhl/playoffs/2012/story/_/id/7806333/2012-stanley-cup-playoffs-nhl-fines-shea-weber-blow-henrik-zetterberg-head (https://espn.go.com/nhl/playoffs/2012/story/_/id/7806333/2012-stanley-cup-playoffs-nhl-fines-shea-weber-blow-henrik-zetterberg-head)
No suspension for Weber. I guess slamming someone's head into the glass WWE style with 1 second remaining is acceptable behavior now.
Sounds like Shanahan will have him on a pretty short leash going forward, though.
I just saw it. That was bad. He'll get it I hope during the series.
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Bullshit. Complete and utter bullshit. https://espn.go.com/nhl/playoffs/2012/story/_/id/7806333/2012-stanley-cup-playoffs-nhl-fines-shea-weber-blow-henrik-zetterberg-head (https://espn.go.com/nhl/playoffs/2012/story/_/id/7806333/2012-stanley-cup-playoffs-nhl-fines-shea-weber-blow-henrik-zetterberg-head)
No suspension for Weber. I guess slamming someone's head into the glass WWE style with 1 second remaining is acceptable behavior now.
Sounds like Shanahan will have him on a pretty short leash going forward, though.
I just saw it. That was bad. He'll get it I hope during the series.
I saw a neat tweet that pointed out at the % of his income, the fine equates to $16 for someone making 50k a year. The goons that get these fins regularly might feel $2,500, but for fuck's sake that is nothing to Weber.
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I can't be upset at the amount since it's the maximum amount. Man the NHLPA got a sweet deal on that one. That's part of the reason the lack of suspension pissed me off.
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https://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/frequentflyers/147234475.html
The fuck? I can't remember the NHL ever fucking releasing a statement like this when a missed or bad call fucked over the Flyers. Kudos for Dan Byslma for the right comment on the situation, but this is kinda odd.
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Wow. I can't believe the amount of blocked shots the Capitals have against the B's Yest the B's are out shooting them 26 to 7 after two periods. Yet the one stat that counts is that it's 0 to 0 right now.
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Gonna watch the 3rd period of that game, looking forward to seeing how it ends.
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Damn OT. I'm stroking and it's only game one of the first series. :lol
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Even in a period where the Caps took control, the B's still manage to look like the better team. I *want* the Caps to win the series, but I don't see any way it's going to happen.
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Well these are the king of games the underdog's love. They are in it where they have a chance with one goal.
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CHRIS KELLY!!!!!!
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Sharks win, GG :biggrin:
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Piss balls. :censored :censored :censored
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Watched a good chunk of the Chicago/Coyotes game, that's gonna be a good series, excited final period and overtime.
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Damn OT. I'm stroking and it's only game one of the first series. :lol
:lol No kidding! Going 0-4 on the PP did not help.
I was not at all surprised by Holtby's play.
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Sens got outplayed.
Rangers looked hungrier....
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I can easily see the Rangers going all the way.
They'll beat the Sharks in the finals! That's my prediction.
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Electric building for the yotes/hawks game. It was fantastic.
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No way in hell Sharks go to the big show.
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No way in hell Sharks go to the big show.
Well, picking Detroit would be too easy.
Who do you think is going from the West, then?
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LA
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The West is stacked from top to bottom. All of those teams are good enough to get hot and get to the Finals.
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No way in hell Sharks go to the big show.
Well, picking Detroit would be too easy.
Who do you think is going from the West, then?
I made my first round picks on FB before the round started and I didn't even pick Detroit to make it past Nashville, however much that killed me. I'd like to see the Kings go, but I think it's more likely Nashville or the Cannucks.
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I'd love to see Nashville make it!
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I'd love to see Phoenix make it......beyond fairy tale.
Phoenix v. Florida final.
An NHL tv nightmare..but so what.
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Are there any Rangers fans on DTF?
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Are there any Rangers fans on DTF?
As long as they are not playing the B's I like them a lot. I tell ya, if you didn't see the HBO series 24/7, you need too ASAP.
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24/7 was a really well done series, both last year and this year.
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24/7 was a really well done series, both last year and this year.
Yeah, I just love all the behind the scenes and love the salty language.
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If only NHL36 could have been half as good. From the episodes I've seen it went from horrible to alright over the course of the season.
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If only NHL36 could have been half as good. From the episodes I've seen it went from horrible to alright over the course of the season.
That's why HBO rules. Not held back buy it's own product.
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Holy. Fucking. Flyers.
What a game, fear the broom.
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Holy. Fucking. Flyers.
What a game, fear the broom.
Watched this at work, I work at Jersey City, a Canadian company for people that don't know, I live in BC and my boss is the biggest canucks fan ever and is so fickle towards every other team in the league for stupid reasons, He hates the flyers because he says they arent good enough to wear orange (he says that because he is dutch) when the flyers kept scoring he got so mad and I kept cheering so loud, after it got to 6-5 he changed the channel to Detroit Nashville, everyone in the store got so pissed but he was pissed off enough to not give a fuck about customer satisfaction. Good day at work for me. Got to see my annoying manager get ticked off and my team won a huge game, and his canucks lost again :tup
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Holy. Fucking. Flyers.
What a game, fear the broom.
Very, very happy so far. Not done yet Nick!!
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GuineaPig, you rely too much on stats and not enough on results, the real proof in the pudding. Weren't you the guy who said Vokoun was the best goalie in the league, and that with him in Washington it would put them over the top? Well that didn't work out for them. Yes, the Penguins are fourth, the Flyers fifth, but they are separated by what, 5 points over the course of a season where you can get 164 points?
I'm a diehard Pens fan, and I think they have the team that can win the Cup, but so do the Flyers. The only team that can beat either one of them in a 7 game series is each other, so the winner of this series I think is going to win the Cup. If Pittsburgh could remember how to win games 3-1, or else stop trying to play defence and play offence for 60 minutes instead of the first 10 minutes, this series would be 2-0 Pittsburgh. Fleury has to step up, so does Malkin (who's been largely unnoticeable), and they just need to start playing better team defence. If they can figure it out this series is not even close to over. It's a shame this has to be a first round matchup, which is another example why guaranteeing divison winners a top 3 seed is bullshit, these two teams should be 2 and 3 in the conference, and it's shame that New Jersey has the easiest first round matchup in the league for being 6th place, when it should be a Boston-New Jersey first round series.
So take it what you will, but IMO the two winners of the 4-5 seeded rounds are going to the finals, and the winner of the Pens-Flyers will win the Cup.
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GuineaPig, you rely too much on stats and not enough on results, the real proof in the pudding. Weren't you the guy who said Vokoun was the best goalie in the league, and that with him in Washington it would put them over the top? Well that didn't work out for them. Yes, the Penguins are fourth, the Flyers fifth, but they are separated by what, 5 points over the course of a season where you can get 164 points?
I said Vokoun had been the best goalie post-lockout. He did play very well in Washington (despite suffering from injuries); the team didn't.
And regardless of the points they got, Pittsburgh's the better team. Everything indicates it. I think you don't understand the concepts I'm trying to argue; that points are not as predictive as other measures such as goal differential and possession, because the distribution of goals in individual games is more or less random, and this affects the distribution of points.
I'm a diehard Pens fan, and I think they have the team that can win the Cup, but so do the Flyers. The only team that can beat either one of them in a 7 game series is each other, so the winner of this series I think is going to win the Cup. If Pittsburgh could remember how to win games 3-1, or else stop trying to play defence and play offence for 60 minutes instead of the first 10 minutes, this series would be 2-0 Pittsburgh. Fleury has to step up, so does Malkin (who's been largely unnoticeable), and they just need to start playing better team defence.
Pittsburgh's still definitely in it. They went down 2-0 against Washington in 2009, and came back and won the Cup. Given the way the goalies have been playing, there are quite a lot of similarities with that series already.
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No team has ever come back from being 0-2 against Philly, and this won't be any exception. I honestly had expected them to split the games in Pittsburgh, but at this point the series is over, and as I said, the better team will end up winning.
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I hate those stats that say Philly has never lost a series when up 2-0. This current team has never had a 2-0 lead, so stats from a team in the 70's are meaningless. Not to say I think Pittsburgh is going to win, but the series is far from over.
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Yep, that kind of stat is meaningless. The Yankees had never blown a 3-0 lead in a best of 7 series...how did that work out for them in '04? So yeah, it is meaningless.
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I wouldn't say it's meaningless, but it doesn't tell the whole story. Many of those series would have been best-of-five, for example. Also, typically a team that goes up 2-0 in a series is usually considerably better than the other one, and are therefore massively more likely to win the rest of the series.
Hockey fans have seen enough series where teams have come back from down 2-0 or 3-1 to win that it's eminently possible. Hell, Nick should know that coming back from being down 3-0 is possible.
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Yep, that kind of stat is meaningless. The Yankees had never blown a 3-0 lead in a best of 7 series...how did that work out for them in '04? So yeah, it is meaningless.
I have to agree. All those past statistics get kind of annoying.
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I wouldn't say it's meaningless, but it doesn't tell the whole story. Many of those series would have been best-of-five, for example. Also, typically a team that goes up 2-0 in a series is usually considerably better than the other one, and are therefore massively more likely to win the rest of the series.
Hockey fans have seen enough series where teams have come back from down 2-0 or 3-1 to win that it's eminently possible. Hell, Nick should know that coming back from being down 3-0 is possible.
When it's talking about if not any team has done something, or saying throughout history a team has only come back from something 10% of the time, then it's understandable. But when it says throughout history a specific team has never done something or something to that effect, I'd say it's pretty meaningless.
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Nick wouldn't be a Philadelphia sports fan if he didn't talk out of his ass. He can't help it. ;)
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Those stats just reflect how hard it is to come back from a 2 or 3 game deficit. You could say a similar stat to almost any team in the league that has played lots of playoff hockey. Still isn't determinant to how this years team is going to react.
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Bruins WTF!!!
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Bruins WTF!!!
First 2 lines are not aggressive enough.
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Hockey fans have seen enough series where teams have come back from down 2-0 or 3-1 to win that it's eminently possible. Hell, Nick should know that coming back from being down 3-0 is possible.
Yeah, if you're the Flyers, and you're playing the Bruins, but we're talking about weak ass Penguins playing the Flyers here. :D
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Hockey fans have seen enough series where teams have come back from down 2-0 or 3-1 to win that it's eminently possible. Hell, Nick should know that coming back from being down 3-0 is possible.
Yeah, if you're the Flyers, and you're playing the Bruins, but we're talking about weak ass Penguins playing the Flyers here. :D
Hey, hey, hey!!! One in a lifetime pal!! :lol
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Woah, goal fiesta in Philly.
Got to check yesterday's results. What, Senators won Rangers?
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That was more like it. :metal
And it was nice to see the Blues lay some beatdowns when the Sharks decided to act like crybaby vaginas at the end of the game. :hat
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Karlsson dominated the Senators/Rangers game.
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Hot damn. 1/10th of a second more and Detroit would have tied the game up going into the 3rd.
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The Red Wings lose. This is already a good day. :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
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Caught 1.5 periods, good game.
Flyers game is brutal so far, and the fact that Crosby came out of the major scrum without an unsportmanlike conduct penalty is fucking mindblowing.
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I'm really enjoying MAF goaltending and the unbeatable pens offense.
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I don't even know where to start. From the start of the game the Penguins have their biggest stay instigating all over the ice and then letting others fight his battles while he goes elsewhere to shoot his mouth of some more. On top of that, that same player, your captain, is hitting gloves away from players (in what should have been an instant unsportmanlike). Then you have James Neal who charges at a player who doesn't have the puck and leaves his feet on the hit which should have earned him interference, charging, and roughing penalties. On top of that he stays on the ice and takes a cheap shot at another player. That sets off a scrum in which Crosby continues to be a douchebag, and the Penguin who ends up fighting Hartnell (starting by hitting him from behind), ends up by pulling Hartnell's hair. And then of course there is Asham who not only cross-checks a player in his head while he's standing, but continues it on the ground. And of course while we managed to go through all of this without targeting Malkin or Crosby, multiple times players were jumping right on Claude Giroux and trying to hurt him.
Plain and simple the Penguins should be ashamed as an organization, and frankly they don't even deserve to be allowed to play game 4. That was absolutely shameful.
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You have to admit, Crosby knocking the glove away was pretty funny. If you can't find that funny then take your head outta your ass.
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That combined with everything else makes it far less than funny.
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Asham and Neal should be looking at multi-game suspensions, but then again I have no idea what Shanny is thinking sometimes. Weber didn't get suspended for a WWE turnbuckle head smash, but Byron Bitz - who has no previous disciplinary history - got 2 games for a check that while illegal was at least still a "hockey play" on the puckhandler.
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Plain and simple the Penguins should be ashamed as an organization, and frankly they don't even deserve to be allowed to play game 4. That was absolutely shameful.
I know, it was like watching Flyers vs Flyers right? :P
Seriously though, it was embarrassing :(
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Asham and Neal should be looking at multi-game suspensions, but then again I have no idea what Shanny is thinking sometimes. Weber didn't get suspended for a WWE turnbuckle head smash, but Byron Bitz - who has no previous disciplinary history - got 2 games for a check that while illegal was at least still a "hockey play" on the puckhandler.
Well, that's the sad thing, suspensions really don't mean much or jack at this point anyway because in all likelyhood the Penguins season will be over in 1 or 2 games.
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The Penguins sure make it easy to hate them.
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As a long time fan they've always been a rival, and I've always hated Crosby, but I've generally respected the organization. Well, no longer.
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The Penguins are a complete embarrassment, and considering that Mario Lemieux is the guy who, in reference to a cheap shot laid on a Penguin by an Islander, once said...
“We, as a league, must do a better job of protecting the integrity of the game and the safety of our players. We must make it clear that those kinds of actions will not be tolerated and will be met with meaningful disciplinary action."
...he is a massive hypocrite if he doesn't speak out about what a disgrace his team acted like earlier today.
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I just watched the highlights of Penguins - Flyers.
Computer is slow, but I saw the most important parts.
Crosby glove shoot is understandable. Your team is losing the third playoff game and you are pissed off. But that's not the way how a captain should act.
Arron Asham is a fucker.
Flyers seem to have a goalie problem. Bryzgalov have let in 8 goals in two most recent games. But if Flyers continue to score 7-8 goals in a game, it doesn't matter. Or is Fleury that bad?
Claude Giroux has scored 8 points in 3 games. Like a Bossy!
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It's been a massively offensive series (obviously), and although Bryz hasn't been in top form it's really hard to judge his performance from this series. While I'd like to see better I don't have any worries going into the next round (unless we face the Rangers).
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The Penguins are a complete embarrassment, and considering that Mario Lemieux is the guy who, in reference to a cheap shot laid on a Penguin by an Islander, once said...
“We, as a league, must do a better job of protecting the integrity of the game and the safety of our players. We must make it clear that those kinds of actions will not be tolerated and will be met with meaningful disciplinary action."
...he is a massive hypocrite if he doesn't speak out about what a disgrace his team acted like earlier today.
Ray Bourque was on a Boston radio station last week, and even as a player called Mario the biggest whiner.
Claude Giroux has scored 8 points in 3 games. Like a Bossy!
Mike Bossy is my all time favorite player!
The Flyers/Pens series has really been surprising. When I saw the score posted last night, I couldn't believe my eyes.
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Wash/Boston has probably played about 20 minutes less hockey than that series and scored about 25 fewer goals.
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The Penguins are a complete embarrassment, and considering that Mario Lemieux is the guy who, in reference to a cheap shot laid on a Penguin by an Islander, once said...
“We, as a league, must do a better job of protecting the integrity of the game and the safety of our players. We must make it clear that those kinds of actions will not be tolerated and will be met with meaningful disciplinary action."
...he is a massive hypocrite if he doesn't speak out about what a disgrace his team acted like earlier today.
Ray Bourque was on a Boston radio station last week, and even as a player called Mario the biggest whiner.
Claude Giroux has scored 8 points in 3 games. Like a Bossy!
Mike Bossy is my all time favorite player!
The Flyers/Pens series has really been surprising. When I saw the score posted last night, I couldn't believe my eyes.
He is my all time fav too
I've met him twice, lots of autographed stuff.
Shanahan has lost complete control.
It all started with Shea Weber too.....that's when the wheels fell off the bus.
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i give shanaban until the end of first round to be crucified.
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First Panthers win in 900 years. They looked good. Nice job boys. Tallon and Dineen have done an amazing job in one year.
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they looked good until the start of the third...............
holy shit the rats!!!
lol
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I enjoy seeing the rats again, brings me good memories.
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I had completely forgotten about the rats and Florida until the end of that game, but when the ice was covered with toy rats I was utterly delighted. :lol
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The B's need to set a tone tonight. The Caps have done a great job of blocking shots and forcing shot that are not quality shots.
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That was more like it. :metal
And it was nice to see the Blues lay some beatdowns when the Sharks decided to act like crybaby vaginas at the end of the game. :hat
I may be recalling incorrectly, but I believe that it was a Blues player who threw the first punch at the buzzer. Either way, it was an entertaining way to end it! As a Sharks fan, I have to admit we were outplayed.
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That was more like it. :metal
And it was nice to see the Blues lay some beatdowns when the Sharks decided to act like crybaby vaginas at the end of the game. :hat
I may be recalling incorrectly, but I believe that it was a Blues player who threw the first punch at the buzzer. Either way, it was an entertaining way to end it! As a Sharks fan, I have to admit we were outplayed.
That punch was thrown after an entire game of the Sharks 'daring' it to be thrown. there's no sense to say this or that about the fights. I think the series just got real fun after that.
The hit on McDonald was a cheap shot as well as the hit on Nichols...which makes me crack up when the sharks coach whines about 'sucker punches'....really? Did you watch your players at all....or happen to notice the massive sucker elbow delivered by wuss boy cpt. Joe last year on Perron? It's the playoffs dude...stop crying about it.....
And Captain Joe is a chicken sh%t....constantly jawing at Backes AFTER the play is over in which there have been multiple camera shots where clear as day you can see Backes mouth 'Well let's go then...' and sissy cpt. Joe just skates away...waiting until the next stoppage in play where he can jabber jaw like he's tough. :loser:
the rest of the seires should be awesome to watch. These two games in San Jose are going to kill my work productivity this week.....9 and 9:30 pm starts....yikes! Praying for no overtime games.....already losing sleep....
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Hot Damn what a game between the B's and the Caps!! :metal
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Thank you Blues for making the late night worth it! Regained home ice.....not that it's meant a lot so far , but the young kiddos on the Blues are earning thier stripes. Let's steal the next one while we're there!
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That was more like it. :metal
And it was nice to see the Blues lay some beatdowns when the Sharks decided to act like crybaby vaginas at the end of the game. :hat
I may be recalling incorrectly, but I believe that it was a Blues player who threw the first punch at the buzzer. Either way, it was an entertaining way to end it! As a Sharks fan, I have to admit we were outplayed.
That punch was thrown after an entire game of the Sharks 'daring' it to be thrown. there's no sense to say this or that about the fights. I think the series just got real fun after that.
The hit on McDonald was a cheap shot as well as the hit on Nichols...which makes me crack up when the sharks coach whines about 'sucker punches'....really? Did you watch your players at all....or happen to notice the massive sucker elbow delivered by wuss boy cpt. Joe last year on Perron? It's the playoffs dude...stop crying about it.....
And Captain Joe is a chicken sh%t....constantly jawing at Backes AFTER the play is over in which there have been multiple camera shots where clear as day you can see Backes mouth 'Well let's go then...' and sissy cpt. Joe just skates away...waiting until the next stoppage in play where he can jabber jaw like he's tough. :loser:
Well said. Plus, the Sharks took several runs at Blues players late when the game was out of hand, and the Blues gave them the beatdown with their fists that they deserved.
And tonight was more Blues domination. The Sharks made it close at the end, but the Blues showed again that they are clearly the better team. I see the Blues taking this in 6, so long as Elliot doesn't get hurt too.
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It's been a massively offensive series (obviously), and although Bryz hasn't been in top form it's really hard to judge his performance from this series. While I'd like to see better I don't have any worries going into the next round (unless we face the Rangers).
On second thoughts, you have played in Stanley Cup finals with Michael Leighton. If I'm right, Bryzgalov has had a difficult season, but was in a better form at the end of the regular season. He was very good in Phoenix, so hopefully he can play again in that level.
And about goalie problems, Luongo doesn't seem to be able to handle any pressure. Canucks 3 - Kings 0 :eek.
Claude Giroux has scored 8 points in 3 games. Like a Bossy!
Mike Bossy is my all time favorite player!
Just a hockey variation of a meme. Yes, he was a great scorer.
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And Captain Joe is a chicken sh%t....
For such a big guy, he plays so soft. That's why Mike O'Connell traded him out of Boston.
Hot Damn what a game between the B's and the Caps!! :metal
Finally! The Seidenberg/Ovechkin battle has been epic.
One guy that has impressed me on the Caps is Brooks Laich.
And YES, that was major floppage by Marchand. C'mon man, knock that shit off! Gotta call it for what it is.
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It's almost as if Seidenberg/Ovechkin are looking fore each other on the ice and yeah, Marchand needs to stop the flopping.
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And tonight was more Blues domination. The Sharks made it close at the end, but the Blues showed again that they are clearly the better team. I see the Blues taking this in 6, so long as Elliot doesn't get hurt too.
I'm not too concerned about the two goals the Sharks scored in the end. At that point the Sharks spirit had been crushed....their 2nd goal was 'ok' with the extra attacker and that panicked rush that accompanies it ...but the third goal was like 'whatever'...there's 14 seconds left, there was no way the Blues or Elliot was allowing a tying goal.
I am getting greedy now though....I'd like to see the Blues take the next game and wrap it up at home this Saturday. But I have a feeling the Sharks are going to be jacked up Thursday night...or at least they should be. That's why it'll be great to beat them then as well.....who knows....maybe cpt. sis' boy will throw down with Backes also. I don't even care if he whoops Backes' butt....but c'mon man...stop acting tough and do something.
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Can someone show me some video of the Marchand flop? I want to see if it has anything on the Letang flop.
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Can someone show me some video of the Marchand flop? I want to see if it has anything on the Letang flop.
https://www.csnne.com/pages/video?PID=uvXM2-z_U6r5ZNMsVLPrChfov4I1Ppe3RsHRwP
One guy called talk radio this morning and said he read Marchand's lips as he was skating off with the trainer as saying "I was trying to draw the five".
Maybe the stick did hit him in the nuts, but he couldn't even answer the question with a straight face.
I don't think even PK Subban could beat the Letang flop. Well OK..maybe HE could!
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And tonight was more Blues domination. The Sharks made it close at the end, but the Blues showed again that they are clearly the better team. I see the Blues taking this in 6, so long as Elliot doesn't get hurt too.
I'm not too concerned about the two goals the Sharks scored in the end. At that point the Sharks spirit had been crushed....their 2nd goal was 'ok' with the extra attacker and that panicked rush that accompanies it ...but the third goal was like 'whatever'...there's 14 seconds left, there was no way the Blues or Elliot was allowing a tying goal.
I am getting greedy now though....I'd like to see the Blues take the next game and wrap it up at home this Saturday. But I have a feeling the Sharks are going to be jacked up Thursday night...or at least they should be. That's why it'll be great to beat them then as well.....who knows....maybe cpt. sis' boy will throw down with Backes also. I don't even care if he whoops Backes' butt....but c'mon man...stop acting tough and do something.
If nothing else, those two late Sharks goals ensures that the Blues won't get too comfortable and be too happy with themselves following last night's win, as Hitchcock will likely tear into them for not finishing strong, and that should benefit them come Thursday.
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Rinne is a beast in net. I missed the days when he was an unconfident youngling.
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highest paid player in the NHL too if I'm not mistaken
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If you go by actual income and not cap hit, Bryz was this years highest paid at 10mil I believe.
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Furthering that chant of "You Can't Beat Us"
We'll see if the Sens can get it done against the Rangers tonight.
I'll be there.
Funny about the Canadian media...there's only one Canadian team currently in the playoffs.
I wonder what they'll do once Vancouver gets knocked out.
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Torres suspended indefinitely until hearing on Friday for his hit on Hossa.
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Hoping the Rangers can go home up 3-1!!!! Brian Boyle has been a beast in this series! Taking it to another level in the postseason.
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Torres suspended indefinitely until hearing on Friday for his hit on Hossa.
It pisses me off that Shanny has been about as consistant as a Michael J. Fox signature with these suspensions because he was always one of my favorite players. Not saying Torres doesn't deserve to have the hammer fall. With his record, he deserves to get something serious, but man it's a crap shoot with these things. Torres will probably get 4 or 5 games so that he won't step on the ice again against the Blackhawks.
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I made a facebook post about it, but it's complete bullshit that injury is taken into account when making these decisions.
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I don't know Nick, especially when it's targeting or predatory. Haven't you ever heard anyone say, "that guy should be out as long as the guy is injured". I hear what you are saying. It shouldn't be the be all end all but it should definitely be in the formula, and it doesn't even seem like it's made a difference anyway. Shaw from the Black Hawks got 3 games (which I thought was excessive) when in Shannie's video explanation he stated that Smith had no injury. He also cited Peverly had no injury and still upheld Backstrom's suspension.
It pisses me off that Shanny has been about as consistant as ...
Maybe. I think that if Backstrom did what he did after Game 1 and not Game 3, nothing would've happened, and If Webber had done what he did in Game 3 and not Game 1, he would've gotten a game. Probably because this round has exploded onto Shanahan's desk, he seems to be reactionary.
I know you were hot on the Webber hit, and while I personally didn't think it was a suspendable action in and of itself, Shannie could've taken the opportunity to suspend him to send the message to the league right away.
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The same misconduct/hit could end up barely phasing a guy or ending his career, hence why the actual result shouldn't matter. Think of the regular season, if you injure a guy, them suspending you until he returns really does next to nothing for the team that has the injured player, and the same will be true for any long term injury in the playoffs. You should be penalizing the conduct, not the result.
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I don't disagree. I just don't have a problem with it being part of the formula.
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Here we go flyers! Giroux with an early one! :tup
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Philly and Pittsburgh should just both pull their goalies and play 6 on 6. The goalies seem equally worthless. Meanwhile the Blues are sitting a sub 1.6 GAA goalie :lol
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Philly and Pittsburgh should just both pull their goalies and play 6 on 6. The goalies seem equally worthless. Meanwhile the Blues are sitting a sub 1.6 GAA goalie :lol
Neither Pennsylvania team looks like a playoff team. You need good goaltending, good defense, and discipline to go deep in the playoffs. I dont see much of any from either team with any type of consistency.
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Holy Shit!! I had to do a double take on the Pitt/Philly game!! Damn!
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For the record, I hope Rinaldo gets suspended for the next 300 or so games.
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This pitts/philly game is ridiculous. Think there will be any suspensions from this one?
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For the record, I hope Rinaldo gets suspended for the next 300 or so games.
His previous disciplinary history is going to be damning for him.
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And the fact that he's a complete idiot and a douchebag moron.
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And the fact that he's a complete idiot and a douchebag moron.
Quoted for laughs.
#reversesweep
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What an embarrassment of a series.
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Sens v Rangers. What a game what a finish.
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#PensIn7
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Awesome goal in OT by the Senators to tie their series up. And the Canucks and Penguins both avoided the sweep by winning on the road. Nice.
LET'S GO BLUES!
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:huh: .
10-3?!
Series ain't over.
Philly and Pittsburgh should just both pull their goalies and play 6 on 6. The goalies seem equally worthless. Meanwhile the Blues are sitting a sub 1.6 GAA goalie :lol
Ilya Bryzgalov .722
Sergei Bobrovsky .722
Marc-Andre Fleury .880
Fleury's percentage isn't even good, but he kept a clean sheet in two last periods.
Nick, you have a goalie problem. Not as bad as in 2010, but this is still a problem. Ilya's percentage is less than .900 in every four playoff games.
And Vancouver solved their goalie problem by putting Cory Schneider on goal. But I do think, that Kings will go to the second round.
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I haven't been able to watch any of the games since the time difference, and some of the games being during the week when I have to go up early, but did the last game just end 10-3 to Pittsburgh? And before that there was like 8-4 to Flyers or something. Oh god. :lol
While I think 3-1 is very tough to turn around, at least a win was important.
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:huh: .
10-3?!
Series ain't over.
Philly and Pittsburgh should just both pull their goalies and play 6 on 6. The goalies seem equally worthless. Meanwhile the Blues are sitting a sub 1.6 GAA goalie :lol
Ilya Bryzgalov .722
Sergei Bobrovsky .722
Marc-Andre Fleury .880
Fleury's percentage isn't even good, but he kept a clean sheet in two last periods.
Nick, you have a goalie problem. Not as bad as in 2010, but this is still a problem. Ilya's percentage is less than .900 in every four playoff games.
And Vancouver solved their goalie problem by putting Cory Schneider on goal. But I do think, that Kings will go to the second round.
It's impossible to say anything about either teams goalies at this point in the series. It's a discipline-less offensive clusterfuck and neither team is really giving good support to their goalies.
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Man did Hotlby have one hell of a game tonight.
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:huh: .
10-3?!
Series ain't over.
Philly and Pittsburgh should just both pull their goalies and play 6 on 6. The goalies seem equally worthless. Meanwhile the Blues are sitting a sub 1.6 GAA goalie :lol
Ilya Bryzgalov .722
Sergei Bobrovsky .722
Marc-Andre Fleury .880
Fleury's percentage isn't even good, but he kept a clean sheet in two last periods.
Nick, you have a goalie problem. Not as bad as in 2010, but this is still a problem. Ilya's percentage is less than .900 in every four playoff games.
And Vancouver solved their goalie problem by putting Cory Schneider on goal. But I do think, that Kings will go to the second round.
It's impossible to say anything about either teams goalies at this point in the series. It's a discipline-less offensive clusterfuck and neither team is really giving good support to their goalies.
No matter what your defence is, the goalie should never let goals in with a percentage under .880. There cannot be that much "sure goals" in a match, unless there are very few shots on goal.
In regular season goalie can afford a weaker streak, but in playoffs that can be fateful.
Flyers have still won three games, so it is much more likely that they win one game than Penguins win three in a row.
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got to see another brodeur record, and the house was loud as hell. i love playoff atmosphere.
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Very proud of the Blues for taking it to the Sharks two games in thier house to come home with the 3-1 lead. They are playing SOILD defense....thier PP is on fire (i think after last night its like 5 or 6 for 14) and thier PK is solid. Elliot looks like he's going to keep the starting gig in goal....and he should. Not just for playing great but Halak is in a hard boot because of his ankle. Our "kids" are playing with passion and the veterans are clearly leading them........very exciting. I know it's VERY early in the playoffs......but I like the Blues chances at winning the cup just as much as any other teams at this moment.
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Yeah, the Blues looks great right now, and Elliot is playing really well. Let's hope we can finish them off at home tomorrow night. :tup :tup
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Goog game today with the Bruins and Caps.
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Awe man. Damn you B's!!
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Way to go Blues! :metal Great job! Sit back and relax...wait to see who you play and get back to it!!!!
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I gotta say, right now all the predictions I made for the first round that I've been wrong on I couldn't be happier about.
Picked Rangers, really happy Ottawa has surprised.
Picked Boston, would much rather see Washington get it.
Picked Vancouver, love the Kings but didn't think they'd pull it together, they have done fantastic.
Picked Chicago, once again, didn't expect the Coyotes to perform so well, feel good story there.
Picked New Jersey, would rather face the Panthers.
My other picks were Philly, St. Louis, Nashville. I wanted to see the first two win, and while I love Detroit I really appreciate what Nashville has done and picked them to take it all in the West, so I'm happy with that. Really, everyone I WANT to win has either won or is leading the series, if only I'd pick with my heart next time instead of my brain.
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Philly-Pittsburgh series isn't over yet Nick!
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Random change of topic as I just now was able to review the Torres/Hossa exchange.
While I agree that Torres should have been suspended a long time, it does make the Neal suspension somewhat bullshit. While Torres had more of a discipline history and deserved a longer sentence, at the end of the day what he did and what Neal did were incredibly similar. The Neal hit on Couterier was interference, charging, and a hit up high. And of course two of those three were then carried out less than a minute later on Girioux. What is the difference? Neither Couts or Giroux were injured, whereas Hossa was. The result is 25 games versus 1 game. It was the same illegal actions, so those two numbers should be MUCH closer together.
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If Torres was a star, he'd get 5 games max no matter how many offenses. Heh. Oh well.
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DAMN, RANGERS! >:(
and Boyle has a concussion! FUCK!!! :censored
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25 games is ridiculous
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The the suspensions were so different because of the result, significant injury > no injury, and reputation, known and proven dirty player with a large rap sheet > player with no past history. Whether you agree with it or not, that's how it goes down in Shanny's office, and the offices of the ones before him.
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25 games is ridiculous
Well Torres has a very big history of this and this is the "Statement" suspension.
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The the suspensions were so different because of the result, significant injury > no injury, and reputation, known and proven dirty player with a large rap sheet > player with no past history. Whether you agree with it or not, that's how it goes down in Shanny's office, and the offices of the ones before him.
Yeah, but injury should have NOTHING to do with it. Two players doing the exact same thing have the same CHANCE of injuring someone, you can't help which ones do and do not end up in injuries.
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25 games is ridiculous
It would be if it wasn't his third offense. You need to know you can't play like that. Maybe he'll finally get it.
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I have no problem with Torres getting 25, but then Neal should have gotten at least 10 or 15. On the other hand I would have accepted if Torres had only gotten 5, as it would keep in line with Neal's 1.
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Philly-Pittsburgh series isn't over yet Nick!
Are we willing to change this now, or shall we still cling to false hope? :p
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how unfortunate
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No, it's over, but you make it seem like I said that when there was like 5 minutes left.
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Well, I was more eluding to the fact that people thought Pittsburgh was going to come back from 3-0 down. Aside from the start of the first game we showed how easily we could be the more dominant team, and all it took was getting somewhat back in that form to end the series. Now let's go Caps and Sens!
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Hey, hey Nick! I was pulling for the Flyers!! But I do understand why you don't want us to move to the next round. We own the Flyers this year.
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Rangers are toast and the Bruins just might be too...
I wouldn't put money on the outcome of either of those two series.
Really...who knows what will happen.
Having Backstrom back and the Bruins being sort of ho-hum makes that one a toss up, and which Ottawa team shows up.....? The one that was SUPPOSED to finish last? Or the one, that at times this season, looks like it can't lose.
Little late now, but I still stand by that. Rangers are toast. The playoffs are entirely different animal and if they lose I don't think it's even really that big of an upset.
For what it's worth I also had the Penguins (still believed after they were down 3-0 but after not responding to that Crosby hit just after the game started I knew it was over.)
Nashville St. Louis, Devils, Vancouver (though LA would hardly be an upset in Bettman's modern NHL) and the Yotes.
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Hey, hey Nick! I was pulling for the Flyers!! But I do understand why you don't want us to move to the next round. We own the Flyers this year.
Yeah, exactly. The Rangers I have NO confidence against, but the Bruins I think we could beat, but it would be tough. Would LOVE to face the Caps though, we will own their goaltender.
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GO CAPITALS!
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Holy fuck Marchand.
Someone is seriously practicing for the summer olympics.
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pretty surprising round 1, hope we can survive it.
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Holy fuck Marchand.
Someone is seriously practicing for the summer olympics.
He does that waaaay to much and us B's fans don't like it.
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Well, I was more eluding to the fact that people thought Pittsburgh was going to come back from 3-0 down. Aside from the start of the first game we showed how easily we could be the more dominant team, and all it took was getting somewhat back in that form to end the series. Now let's go Caps and Sens!
Couple things to say about this. First, I'm a large Penguins fan but I really like a lot of the Flyers too, so I'm not biased in saying that this series was quite a bit closer than the scores and outcome indicates. As was evident in both games 5 and 6, all the teams needed were for their goalies to play good and win the game for them. If both goalies and team defences had played like they did in their respective games then this would have been MUCH closer. Not to say the Flyers don't deserve it, they are a really good team but I will be honest I was a little uncertain how all the rookies would react to playoff pressure, I thought the Penguin veterans and experience would eventually be the tipping point. But, the Penguins stars couldn't all play good on the same night, and it just looked like they were out of gas and not prepared physically for a deep run, especially Crosby who I thought really looked "out of shape" if I may say that about a guy like that.
Secondly, fans can have hope, can't they? I knew it would be tough, I was hopeful they would make a comeback, but very aware it was most likely not going to happen. You were probably the same way when the Flyers made the comeback on the Bruins, so to call people out on it is a little hypocritical IMO. Teams go on 4 game winning streaks all the time, that's what makes it possible to do it in a series.
In the end, Philadelphia played their game a little more consistently than the Penguins so they move on. Both teams would have needed to play better in the second round to win, so that's Philly's challenge now, or else they won't be far behind the Penguins. But I'll cheer for the Flyers, Hartnell is one of my favorite players and I hope I'm counting Hartnell downs deep into June!
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This game is making veins pop out of my forehead. Every time we get the lead, they tie it up. Let hope this trend continues since we are in OT.
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Well, I was more eluding to the fact that people thought Pittsburgh was going to come back from 3-0 down. Aside from the start of the first game we showed how easily we could be the more dominant team, and all it took was getting somewhat back in that form to end the series. Now let's go Caps and Sens!
Couple things to say about this. First, I'm a large Penguins fan but I really like a lot of the Flyers too, so I'm not biased in saying that this series was quite a bit closer than the scores and outcome indicates. As was evident in both games 5 and 6, all the teams needed were for their goalies to play good and win the game for them. If both goalies and team defences had played like they did in their respective games then this would have been MUCH closer. Not to say the Flyers don't deserve it, they are a really good team but I will be honest I was a little uncertain how all the rookies would react to playoff pressure, I thought the Penguin veterans and experience would eventually be the tipping point. But, the Penguins stars couldn't all play good on the same night, and it just looked like they were out of gas and not prepared physically for a deep run, especially Crosby who I thought really looked "out of shape" if I may say that about a guy like that.
Secondly, fans can have hope, can't they? I knew it would be tough, I was hopeful they would make a comeback, but very aware it was most likely not going to happen. You were probably the same way when the Flyers made the comeback on the Bruins, so to call people out on it is a little hypocritical IMO. Teams go on 4 game winning streaks all the time, that's what makes it possible to do it in a series.
In the end, Philadelphia played their game a little more consistently than the Penguins so they move on. Both teams would have needed to play better in the second round to win, so that's Philly's challenge now, or else they won't be far behind the Penguins. But I'll cheer for the Flyers, Hartnell is one of my favorite players and I hope I'm counting Hartnell downs deep into June!
Fans can certainly hope, but that hope is often misplaced, but sometimes well-founded. I have to admit I felt good with how we played the first 3 games against Boston the year we went down 3-0 and made the comeback. On the other hand last year when we went 3-0 down I knew we were done, our play through the first three games did not merit hope in a comeback and I wrote the Flyers off. The same I think can be said about the Pens this year. Watching how they played the first 3 games it should have been clear they didn't have what it took to win the series.
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YEEESS!!!! Wednesday night! Bring it on!! Ow man, these one goal games are killing me.
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Well, I was more eluding to the fact that people thought Pittsburgh was going to come back from 3-0 down. Aside from the start of the first game we showed how easily we could be the more dominant team, and all it took was getting somewhat back in that form to end the series. Now let's go Caps and Sens!
Couple things to say about this. First, I'm a large Penguins fan but I really like a lot of the Flyers too, so I'm not biased in saying that this series was quite a bit closer than the scores and outcome indicates. As was evident in both games 5 and 6, all the teams needed were for their goalies to play good and win the game for them. If both goalies and team defences had played like they did in their respective games then this would have been MUCH closer. Not to say the Flyers don't deserve it, they are a really good team but I will be honest I was a little uncertain how all the rookies would react to playoff pressure, I thought the Penguin veterans and experience would eventually be the tipping point. But, the Penguins stars couldn't all play good on the same night, and it just looked like they were out of gas and not prepared physically for a deep run, especially Crosby who I thought really looked "out of shape" if I may say that about a guy like that.
Secondly, fans can have hope, can't they? I knew it would be tough, I was hopeful they would make a comeback, but very aware it was most likely not going to happen. You were probably the same way when the Flyers made the comeback on the Bruins, so to call people out on it is a little hypocritical IMO. Teams go on 4 game winning streaks all the time, that's what makes it possible to do it in a series.
In the end, Philadelphia played their game a little more consistently than the Penguins so they move on. Both teams would have needed to play better in the second round to win, so that's Philly's challenge now, or else they won't be far behind the Penguins. But I'll cheer for the Flyers, Hartnell is one of my favorite players and I hope I'm counting Hartnell downs deep into June!
Fans can certainly hope, but that hope is often misplaced, but sometimes well-founded. I have to admit I felt good with how we played the first 3 games against Boston the year we went down 3-0 and made the comeback. On the other hand last year when we went 3-0 down I knew we were done, our play through the first three games did not merit hope in a comeback and I wrote the Flyers off. The same I think can be said about the Pens this year. Watching how they played the first 3 games it should have been clear they didn't have what it took to win the series.
Yeah I totally understand that, but this is different as well because the Flyers weren't really 100% convincing me that they were playing a style of game that was totally overpowering. Add that to the fact that Pittsburgh had flashes of brilliance and dominance, and Giroux said it himself, they are a team capable of making the comeback. In the end, they dug themselves too big of a hole with blowing their leads in the first two games.
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To be fair, on the Giroux statement, he pretty much HAS to say that. No captain (I realize he wears the A, but Pronger is useless and he is captain defacto) is going to really say otherwise no matter how the Penguins were playing. Had the Pens taken out lawn chairs and slept the first three games he would have said that the team has to stay sharp because they might come out and try and win 4 straight now. Against other teams in other situations the Pens might have had a chance, but the Flyers showed all year they can shut the Pens down, and the first 3 games made it clear who was going to win the series.
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I don't disagree, for whatever reason the Penguins don't match up well against the Flyers. As Sid said, they bring the worst out of them. When they play the Flyers they get away from what makes them successful against every other team. If the Penguins remembered to play that way against the Flyers I think it would be much different. But this year and in this series the Flyers proved they are better team when matched up against each other, while I think Pittburgh matches up against other teams better. I said it before, the Flyers are the only team capable of beating the Penguins in a seven game series, but there's no arguing, even from you Nick, that the Flyers need to get better of they are to win any more, unless of course the play Florida hahah.
But St. Louis is damn good as well, Pietrangelo is a stud, and my brother and I have been trying to get people to realize how good they are all year, but I'm also a strong advocate of teams having to lose once before they win the cup, (or 5 or 6 of you are the Canucks or Capitals), so I think it's a Nashville-Philadelphia final, not sure how that one plays out though!
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I think the Flyers don't need to get much better, they just need to reset and play a bit more disciplined. Bryz showed in March what he can do, and as long as Carle gets his head out of his ass I think our defense will be solid against any team other than the Rangers or possibly Boston. And I have no doubt whatsoever that our offense will overpower any team other than the two I just mentioned.
I think people look at the series and say neither team played great, and I disagree. Neither team played their best hockey, but at the end of the day it was just a wide open offensive series.
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That's exactly what I mean. The two most potent offenses went at it, and they turned into a goal fest. I just hope they realize now that of they run into a hot goalie (every other goalie seems hot this year), they will need to clamp down defensively to win.
Just want to get your opinion on this, but do you think the Flyers got better without Pronger? I think they did because of what they did at the trade deadline, getting Kubina and Grossman. It gave them more depth throughout their whole roster, and guys like Coburn and Timmonen really stepped up in his absence. Thoughts Nick?
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I've been saying all season that I hope Pronger's injury is career ending, however cruel that sounds. He had gotten too slow and was really hit or miss returning from a long string of injuries, and frankly his cap money could be better spent. Kubina has done OK, but I LOVE what Grossmann has done since coming to Philadelphia, and was so happy to see him get the contract extension. Timonen has always been my favorite Flyers D-man and he's done great this season, and Coburn has done a really good job as well.
Edit: And it was really dumb to make such an injury prone player the captain when Giroux or Timonen would have made MUCH better choices.
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Timonen yes, Giroux no, because he hadn't really proven himself to be a leader yet. Now, he's the obvious choice for captain after what he's done this year though.
All I gotta say is I can't wait to watch Giroux and Crosby dominate the Olympics in Russia.
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Blues/Kings is gonna be a war. First team to score wins Game 1!!!
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Yeah, going to be a great series. Going to be pulling for the Kings, though it's one of those series where you gotta be happy no matter who comes out on top.
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Blues/Kings is gonna be a war. First team to score wins Game 1!!!
That it will be. But with that being said......I still think the Blues get it done in 5. They are playing very well. If it weren't for what I believe was a 'weak' goal Halak lets in in overtime San Jose doesn't win a game.
The Kings are on a roll, sure. But the Blues are playing the type of hockey that needs to be played to win a cup.
it's one of those series where you gotta be happy no matter who comes out on top.
You might be happy... :( I'm still catching grief from the wife for throwing a shoe across the room (in front of the kiddos :\) when Thornton scored the first goal last night. I tried to explain to her it was her fault for not having them in bed already after a playoff game started...somehow that didn't go well either.
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Congrats to Flyers! Sad to see Penguins go, but I didn't really think they would turn around 3-0 to 3-4 sadly. It wasn't decided in the last game, it was decided in the first three games where Flyers were the better team.
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Stressful night ahead for Ranger fans.
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What a great first round so far!
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Stressful night ahead for Ranger fans.
And Senators fans.
I shall be there.
and...HE will be there to hear us count down...at 11:10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 11:00 ALFLIE ALFIE ALFIE!!!!!!
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Great game to go to Ytse! Enjoy!!
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Stressful night ahead for Ranger fans.
And Senators fans.
I shall be there.
and...HE will be there to hear us count down...at 11:10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 11:00 ALFLIE ALFIE ALFIE!!!!!!
Yeah, I meant to ask you, I heard the countdown on TV last week. I just didn't know what they chanted afterwords. Is it someone different each time?
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No way in hell Sharks go to the big show.
Apparently! :lol
They were my longshot upset team this year.
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Stressful night ahead for Ranger fans.
And Senators fans.
I shall be there.
and...HE will be there to hear us count down...at 11:10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 11:00 ALFLIE ALFIE ALFIE!!!!!!
Yeah, I meant to ask you, I heard the countdown on TV last week. I just didn't know what they chanted afterwords. Is it someone different each time?
Nope, just Alfie. People are worrying it might be his last season, and he means everything to the fanbase.
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what a clusterfuck of a game.
Can't put it all on the refs...Foligno has a reputation for running goalies....but a 5 on 3 in that moment...changed the series.
And why give Prust the fight..and then embarass yourself hyping it...MID FIGHT.
just...silly nervous play.
and the LAST thing they needed was a pull-your-hair-out game from Spezza.
He can be such a frustrating cock.
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what a clusterfuck of a game.
Can't put it all on the refs...Foligno has a reputation for running goalies....but a 5 on 3 in that moment...changed the series.
And why give Prust the fight..and then embarass yourself hyping it...MID FIGHT.
just...silly nervous play.
and the LAST thing they needed was a pull-your-hair-out game from Spezza.
He can be such a frustrating cock.
Very tightly called game. Too tight.
Watched the postgame, and Lundqvist was livid that second goal was not disallowed. It was clearly kicked in.
Anyhow, back home to the Garden! Another stessful night ahead!
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asdfladjag
Either the Sens, Caps, or Devils need to win their series, and frankly it isn't looking good for any of them right now.
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Either the Sens, Caps, or Devils need to win their series, and frankly it isn't looking good for any of them right now.
I think the Devils are going to pull it out. I don't think Florida will be able to finish them off. Just my gut feeling.
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asdfladjag
Either the Sens, Caps, or Devils need to win their series, and frankly it isn't looking good for any of them right now.
I think the Devils are going to pull it out. I don't think Florida will be able to finish them off. Just my gut feeling.
Even though the Devils are a game behind, I too feel they have a better shot than Washington or Ottawa. I think as well as he's performed, the pressure is going to get to Holtby in game 7, whereas Thomas will have no problems with the game.
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And the Rangers just have the pettigree to see this thing to the logical conclusion.
As much as Im a homer.....that 5 on 3 was a back bracker for the series.
Alfie was not 100%
Spezza's game just isn't what this series is about..and you can only leave Neil, Konopka, and Smith on so long.
Karlsson is rather invisible too for a Noris candidate.
nice of Alfie to get a nod at the Masteron. Probably a biscuit being tossed Ottawa's way when Pieterangelo wins the Norris.
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And the Rangers just have the pettigree to see this thing to the logical conclusion.
As much as Im a homer.....that 5 on 3 was a back bracker for the series.
Alfie was not 100%
Spezza's game just isn't what this series is about..and you can only leave Neil, Konopka, and Smith on so long.
Karlsson is rather invisible too for a Noris candidate.
nice of Alfie to get a nod at the Masteron. Probably a biscuit being tossed Ottawa's way when Pieterangelo wins the Norris.
The Senators have played very well. I am hoping for the best in game 7. It would not shock me if they pull an upset. As I said...another stressful night is coming.
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Rangers are done.....as I've said before.
The Devils won tonight and they are done too.
Even if they win game seven, the next series is the end of the line. Coach needs to pull and Ovy and keep Kovy off the ice once in a while.
If they are having this much trouble with Florida, they're done.
As a Devils fan, I hope I'm wrong but they just aren't that good.
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Rangers are done.....as I've said before.
The Devils won tonight and they are done too.
Even if they win game seven, the next series is the end of the line. Coach needs to pull and Ovy and keep Kovy off the ice once in a while.
If they are having this much trouble with Florida, they're done.
As a Devils fan, I hope I'm wrong but they just aren't that good.
First off, you like any other fan can say anything you wish, and it really means nothing. If its one thing I have learned watching Hockey for about 30 years is you never know what is going to happen. The Rangers are having a tough go, but Ottawa is a solid team. I take it one game at a time as a fan. The Rangers are certainly good enough to beat anyone they face in the playoffs. It takes a few good breaks along the way to win a cup, no matter how good you are.
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I cannot see the Senators winning a game 7 in New York.
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I can. Why not? They've won 2 of 3 at MSG.
That being said, I think it's more likely that New York will win. They have the better team.
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I would say that the Sens v. Rangers game is toss up..but..BUT if the Rangers win..they're done.
This is not a Bruins team that has the physical power horses to overcome a grueling 7 game series or two and trudge on ahead to the cup.
The Senators have pounded this team of princesses. They wont make it through another round.
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pretty epic comeback from injury for zajac
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Just because the Rangers are struggling in the first round does not mean they will lose in the second round. The best teams don't always win, but I think the Rangers are surely as good as any opponent they would face. I think the Penguins are better than the Flyers, but they lost. That's hockey.
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They had a big discussion about 7 games series on the radio this morning and how it toughens a team not softens them
Teams that blow through a first round oppenent usually get "full of themselves" thinking they are better than they actually are, these are the teams that normally struggle in the next round of the play-offs. Team that are forced to go to game 7 hold a mental edge in the next series, they had their backs to the wall and came through it
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I don't think that's actually true.
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I don't think that's actually true.
I don't really think it makes a difference one way or another. You could make an argument either way.
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I don't think that's true, either. I don't have the stats on me, but I remember hearing something last year that teams that go the full 7 games in the first round almost never go on to win the Stanley Cup. I think it was in regards to the Canucks possibly being a rare team that could have done that had they beaten Boston in the finals.
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I don't think that's true, either. I don't have the stats on me, but I remember hearing something last year that teams that go the full 7 games in the first round almost never go on to win the Stanley Cup. I think it was in regards to the Canucks possibly being a rare team that could have done that had they beaten Boston in the finals.
Well, Boston did it. Boston won three game 7s that spring.
Most "evidence" would probably fall under confirmation bias. Here's my theory: great, truly dominant teams, tend to win faster. Teams that have to go seven games are probably not far ahead from the rest of the pack. So, teams that play seven games, especially in the first round, are probably not as good (with some exceptions, after all wild variation can still happen).
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For me, it comes down to the individual players that year.
The Bruins are just beasts...almost every one of them.
The Rangers......are not. There isn't a single name on that line-up that scares anyone.
The Sens have a laundry list of 3rd and 4th liners playing WAY above potential that you just don't want to go to war with. If the Rangers win tonight, it will be because of an amazing goalie and puck luck.
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The Sens have a laundry list of 3rd and 4th liners playing WAY above potential that you just don't want to go to war with. If the Rangers win tonight, it will be because of an amazing goalie and puck luck.
and because they are a better team than the Senators! and the game is tomorrow night.
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HERE WE GO BRUINS, HERE WE GO!!! *THUMP, THUMP*
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HERE WE GO BRUINS, HERE WE GO!!! *THUMP, THUMP*
Looking bad for the Bruins... GO CAPS!
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These games are killing me!! :lol
1-1 as it should be going into the 3rd.
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still 1-1 going into OT jeez
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Man my head is exploding. Another one goal game in the end.
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Please don't let this game be decided by a bogus penalty (like it almost was by that horrible call near the end of regulation). Let the players decide who wins this!
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FUDGE. Congrats Caps fans.
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I think as well as he's performed, the pressure is going to get to Holtby in game 7
Seriously dude, you suck so fucking hard.
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Guys, I've never really taken much time to follow the Stanley Cup playoffs, so this is kind of a first for me. I'm really enjoying the intensity of it all. As a southerner I never grew up with hockey and only wish now that I had a team to root for more seiously. Times like these, it pays to be Canadian.
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LETS GO RANGERS!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Av1cTYQN0f0&feature=related
OH YEAH!!!
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Bruins..WTF??
It's not so much that the Bruins lost. It's that last spring's run to the Cup was such an amazing experience for a fan, I'm disappointed that it's over already. I was ready to bunker down for a few more weeks.
Some thoughts:
* The Caps defensively were superior. The shots they blocked really got into the Bruins'heads
*Seidenberg and Ovechkin had an epic battle. It was fun to watch.
*The last two goals of the Bruins season were scored by Tyler Seguin. The OT winner in G6 was a pure scorer's goal, but in G7, he probably scored the dirtiest Bruins goal of the year. He's gonna get 40 next year.
Let's go Predators!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Current NHL.com poll asks which two teams will advance tonight and I've never seen such a close freaking poll!
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Stay classy, Boston.
https://chirpstory.com/li/6781
Absolutely disgusting.
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Stay classy, Boston.
https://chirpstory.com/li/6781
Absolutely disgusting.
Holy. Fucking. Shit.
From what it looks like someone was able to search out and compile all these tweets, so it's not like it's at all representative of Boston fans, but it's still shitty to see.
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That is absolutely appalling. As a Bruins fan I would like to let you all know that we are NOT all like this. In fact most of us are nice people, but there are always those people who are just the worst. I am disgusted that there are people who call themselves Bruins fans that would say something like that.
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Yeah, it is definitely not indicative of all Bruins fan, but Boston fans did embarrass themselves last night by not only booing their team at the end of the first period, but most of them bailing the second the game ended. Yeah, it sucks to have lost in OT of Game 7 at home, but fans in most cities will hang around long enough for the handshake and to cheer their team or even both teams on a great series. But not in Boston apparently. I think this speaks volumes as to how spoiled Boston sports fans are now. 7 championships in the four major sports since 2001 will do that, I suppose.
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Just for this I hope Marchand ends up losing to an African athlete come London!
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Yeah, it is definitely not indicative of all Bruins fan, but Boston fans did embarrass themselves last night by not only booing their team at the end of the first period, but most of them bailing the second the game ended. Yeah, it sucks to have lost in OT of Game 7 at home, but fans in most cities will hang around long enough for the handshake and to cheer their team or even both teams on a great series. But not in Boston apparently. I think this speaks volumes as to how spoiled Boston sports fans are now. 7 championships in the four major sports since 2001 will do that, I suppose.
shit the crowd stayed and cheered in nj after we got 2 goals scored on us in game 7 in 80 seconds to lose. there is no excuse if you just won and get mad. anyway, hope we don't lose again tonight.
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Luongo has allegedly asked for a trade to either the Leafs or Lightning.
oh and this shoop is awesome
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I just saw the news about the racist tweets. It's definitely a bit appalling, to think that in this day and age stuff like this still happens. Oh well, at the end of the day, he still scored the game winner and advanced.
Should be good games tonight!
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Stay classy, Boston.
https://chirpstory.com/li/6781
Absolutely disgusting.
Don't put this as all Boston fans. Ever team has assholes fans like this. Most are classy enough to say the Caps are the better team.
Edit. Sorry, I read the posts after!!
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Yeah, it is definitely not indicative of all Bruins fan, but Boston fans did embarrass themselves last night by not only booing their team at the end of the first period, but most of them bailing the second the game ended. Yeah, it sucks to have lost in OT of Game 7 at home, but fans in most cities will hang around long enough for the handshake and to cheer their team or even both teams on a great series. But not in Boston apparently. I think this speaks volumes as to how spoiled Boston sports fans are now. 7 championships in the four major sports since 2001 will do that, I suppose.
I had the TV shut off before the puck hit the back of the net! :D
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Karlsson is rather invisible too for a Noris candidate....... Probably a biscuit being tossed Ottawa's way when Pieterangelo wins the Norris.
The only time he's been visible is when he's busting his a$$ back into the position he thinks he should be in after being caught once again trying to play forward.
You're forgetting that Petrangelo is on the Blues so it was no suprise to me at all that he got shafted, it's pretty much a league tradition not to give an ounce of respect to the Blues or acknowlege thier players...is still think someone must have been drunk when they actually allowed Backes to make it as a Selke finalist....but Petrangelo not even being in the top three... are you kidding me? His age definately screwed him there and its a horrible way of thinking if 'they' are basing it on the fact he is probably set to win 3 or 4 in his career. It's A friggn joke actually that Petrangelo wasn't a finalist and that the frontrunner is a forward playing some sort of basic defense, that illustrates the glaring issue the Norris Trophy has developed as criteria and what a joke that award has become.
And please Spare me the Karlsson stats because I don't want to waste my time rebutting them by digging up all of Petro's stats and proving beyond a reasonable doubt how great a Defensman he is and proving why I'm utterly ticked that he wasn't even nominated. There's no denying Karlssons offensive stats...I doubt he has a career full of them but we'll see....it's just a joke that Petro wasn't even nominated.....Oh well, it'll still be nice watching Petro hoist the cup while Karlsson finds a nice spot on his mantel for his little award :metal
Bitter rant over >:(
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Well, Ottawa played as well as they could've.
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Yeah, never expected them to push it to seven games, great series.
And now... LET'S GO CAPS!!!
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Rangers win!!! Damn that was stressful. I can exhale!!! I know many here don't think they will win another round, but I expect to hear that. Nobody has given them much respect all season. They play an ugly style, but that style earned them top seed in the east this season, and in turn a game 7 in the Garden. Another series coming up!!!!
Bring on the Caps!
RANGERS, BABY!
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GOOOOOAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLL :metal :hat
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Awesome! It will be nice to eliminate the Pens and Devils in the same playoffs. :D
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Awesome! It will be nice to eliminate the Pens and Devils in the same playoffs. :D
That's going to be one hell of a series. I made it up till the end of the first OT last night. Missed the game winner.
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Don't you just love hockey playoffs?!
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Don't you just love hockey playoffs?!
It doesn't get any better!
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Pretty epic win last night, and i'm exhausted this morning. On to Philly we go...
(https://p.twimg.com/Ards5mQCIAAgqaK.jpg)
I purchased a Henrique jersey back in November thinking he's going to be good, and he's now a Calder finalist and a playoff hero, great investment on my part.
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Don't you just love hockey playoffs?!
It doesn't get any better!
I anticipate the Blues/Kings series to be especially brutal. Not so much dropping the gloves and fighting every chance they get, but just massive amount of hits. Both teams hit A LOT. Both teams are well coached.....both teams have great goaltending. Should be fun to watch.
I do expect the Blues to win the series. Althought the Kings won the season series they did not play the Blues when the Blues had ALL of thier players healthy. Especially the fact that McDonald didn't play them at all, Steen and Perron only once. Plus, the Blues didn't really play all that well when they played them and still the only thing that saved the Kings in the games they won was Quick. I can see Quick stealing/winning a game, maybe two on his own for the Kings...but not the entire series. Blues have a better 'team' IMO but that is why they play the games.....just as Vancouver....ha...ha...ha
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Something to keep you guys entertained until the game tonight...
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Woooo! Go Coyotes!
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ahooooohhhh!
Now I'm going to celebrate with the pretty blond.
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Luongo has allegedly asked for a trade to either the Leafs or Lightning.
That means, that he will never again fail in playoffs.
:neverusethis:
And yeah, go Coyotes :D!
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Luongo has allegedly asked for a trade to either the Leafs or Lightning.
That means, that he will never again fail in playoffs.
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And yeah, go Coyotes :D!
Sad, but likely true. Why anyone would WANT a trade here is beyond me. The media scrutiny is out of this world. I seriously don't think it's comparable to any other city, no matter what the sport. Obviously can't speak to it, but the only teams/cities that could be close would be the Yankees, Lakers, or Steelers. Imagine any of those storied franchises not making the playoffs for 8 years, or not winning the championship in 45 years. The Leafs now hold the dubious honor of being the team with the longest running drought in both categories.
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How many times have you seen in all sports that a team thinks they can rehabilitate a player. Some people could be the greatest ever because of there skill set but don't have the brains to match it. Like Randy Moss, Luongo has all the skills in the world but does not have the mental capacity that matches the physical skills.
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How many times have you seen in all sports that a team thinks they can rehabilitate a player. Some people could be the greatest ever because of there skill set but don't have the brains to match it. Like Randy Moss, Luongo has all the skills in the world but does not have the mental capacity that matches the physical skills.
I am sorry, but that is crazy talk, unless you are talking about a different Luongo that the one who helped Canada win the gold medal in 2010 and had the Canucks a win away from the Stanley Cup last year. Mentally deficient goalies do not last long, much less have that much success.
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So tell me Kev, why does he need his tires pumped? Come on now. He has put up great numbers but something is just missing that would make him in another planet. You can't deny he's a head case. He's soft mentally.
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So tell me Kev, why does he need his tires pumped? Come on now. He has put up great numbers but something is just missing that would make him in another planet. You can't deny he's a head case. He's soft mentally.
People said the same things about Steve Yzerman.
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and game 1 goes to the Rangers! :metal
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So tell me Kev, why does he need his tires pumped? Come on now. He has put up great numbers but something is just missing that would make him in another planet. You can't deny he's a head case. He's soft mentally.
People said the same things about Steve Yzerman.
I've followed hockey for almost 30 year and I never heard anybody call him a head case like Luongo. Sorry but Luongo is not mentally strong. Listen, the guy can play, I've never said that but his past action speak for itself. Some people are tough and don't put up the stats he does but I personally think he could be out of this world if he was mentally tougher.
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I don't remember people calling Yzerman a head case. I remember many people questioning his ability to win and lead a team to a Cup victory, but not a mental case.
He went on to prove every one of them wrong, though. I think any player can have the potential to prove any number of critics wrong; what remains to be seen is what they do with that potential.
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That :censored S.O.B Quick has kept the Kings in the game once again. >:( Could easily be 3 or 4 to 1. I HATE when 'your' team dominates the other team yet it remains tied.....my heart, voice and wife may not be able to handle the remainder of the playoffs......
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>:( :censored :censored :censored >:( :censored :censored >:( >:( :censored :censored the :censored Kings
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Thanks alot for the non game misconduct call on the boarding refs.....appreciate it.... :censored off. I guess the gash on the chin and the fact he didn't return to the game wasn't enough. :censored the Kings......I absolutely hate dominating a team and losing....hate it.....
yes I'm a sore loser.... :censored :censored :censored
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If Petrangelo is out for good this series is already over. Could lose ANYONE else but him......now I remember why it sucks to be a Blues fan....this type of Shit always happens.....
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Stop whining.
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Stop whining.
But it's so much fun.....and everyone else here is asleep.....and my dog doesn't care....and that was a BS non call.....
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It's not whining; it's the truth. King not getting a major for that was a travesty, but that was the same idiot crew that didn't call a penalty on Torres for his hit on Hossa last round - ya know, the hit that got him suspended for 25 games - so that was par for the course.
So tell me Kev, why does he need his tires pumped? Come on now. He has put up great numbers but something is just missing that would make him in another planet. You can't deny he's a head case. He's soft mentally.
I ask again: are you talking about a different Luongo that the one who helped Canada win the gold medal in 2010 and had the Canucks a win away from the Stanley Cup last year?
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Kev, Loungo was the reason the Canucks did not win the cup. As a Bruins fan the Canucks should have won the series and failed because of Luongo. As soon as he spoke out he lost it. He's done it before. Like I said, he could be in another universe as a top goalie of all time but he keeps shooting himself in the foot.
In the end he will have a very good career. Not a great career that people will talk about, like A Dryden, Patrick Roy or a Martin Brodeur. He could be there but again. He is a head case.
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Luongo's play in the '11 finals was a fair bit better than Brodeur's in '01, yet you don't hear anyone claim Brodeur is mentally weak.
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Please. In this day and age of the trap all very good goalies can put up stats. So tell me. You think Luongo didn't have a mental hiccup that cost the Canucks the Cup? I sure do. He could have one that series but wasn't stable enough. Plain and simple.
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7 games is a puny sample size. I can pull a 7 game sample from any goalie's history that makes him look like Dominik Hasek at Nagano, or a 7 game sample that looks like Dan Cloutier at his worst.
What you're abusing is the fundamental attribution error, mixed with availability bias. To summarize, you're taking one instance of Luongo's play you can remember, and then attributing it to his personality rather than other factors.
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I'm not saying he's a bad goalie. Rather he is one of the tops in the league but I think because he is not mentally tough and it's stopping him from becoming a goaltender of all time. I know he's an excellent goalie with a save percentage around .920. I just think that with his given talent he could be so much more.
Just look at this year. He was rated 12th in Save % this year. The man should be top three with that team. I personally think there is something missing and it's his head.
Well old man's got to get to bed. Good night.
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I'm not saying he's a bad goalie. Rather he is one of the tops in the league but I think because he is not mentally tough and it's stopping him from becoming a goaltender of all time. I know he's an excellent goalie with a save percentage around .920. I just think that with his given talent he could be so much more.
Just look at this year. He was rated 12th in Save % this year. The man should be top three with that team. I personally think there is something missing and it's his head.
Well old man's got to get to bed. Good night.
Vancouver doesn't have a particularly good defense, and they take an above average number of penalties. And given that Luongo was 8th in ES Sv% at 0.929, he was certainly amongst the elite of the league this year.
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kings, you keep talking about stats like he is someone that puts up great stats, yet fails in the clutch, but do I need to bring up the gold medal again? Just because he isn't all-world like he possibly could be doesn't mean he isn't great regardless.
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It's not whining; it's the truth. King not getting a major for that was a travesty, but that was the same idiot crew that didn't call a penalty on Torres for his hit on Hossa last round - ya know, the hit that got him suspended for 25 games - so that was par for the course.
Which makes me wonder also....since the refs are evaluated and selected to move on per each round.....how the heck did that crew make it to the 2nd round?
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kings, you keep talking about stats like he is someone that puts up great stats, yet fails in the clutch, but do I need to bring up the gold medal again? Just because he isn't all-world like he possibly could be doesn't mean he isn't great regardless.
One gold medal does not make a man. I hear from this group that championships does not make the man, and I agree but there has been evidence of Luongo's mental character despite his very good stats which makes me wonder what kind of crazy numbers he could put up in this league.
GP, the Canucks were 4th in the league of goals against and they were 4th in the league in plus/minus so I'd say they were very good defensively this year and look at the stats between Luongo and Schneider. Tell me he shouldn't have done better this year.
1 Roberto Luongo VAN 55 54 31 14 8 1577 127 2.41 1450 .919
2 Cory Schneider VAN 33 28 20 8 1 945 60 1.96 885 .937
Sorry by his play was not of an elite goaltender and he should be out of this world. Hey, I could say the same thing about Tim Thomas this year. He wasn't the same but I still think he is mentally tougher than Luongo which again makes me wonder what Luongo could do.
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Here's the link to the fundamental attribution error (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_attribution_error). You're reaaaaallllly abusing it.
And the Canucks allowed few goals because they had great goalies.
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The Blues lived up to their name last night. I really thought they would pull it out. They just didn't seem to have that sense of urgency in the last 5 minutes of play. but it is only one game.
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Well we will agree to disagree. Some people have all the talent in the world but never see their full potential because of something innate in them and other fight to get to average with a strong mental fortitude. I personally thing Luongo does not have that but has all the talent in the world. So again we will agree to disagree.
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The Blues lived up to their name last night. I really thought they would pull it out. They just didn't seem to have that sense of urgency in the last 5 minutes of play. but it is only one game.
the Blues outplayed the Kings all night. What killed them in the third period was killing off 6 straight minutes of penalties (4 minute double minor and then an immediate delay of game) that was from the 13 minute mark right to the 7 minute mark. It just killed them. They had nothing to give the last few minutes and the Kings buckled down. Oh well. Still think the Blues will win the series.....if Petrangelo doesn't have a concussion. If he's out then so are they.
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I'd also like to thank the idiots who scheduled the Rangers and Knicks first 2 games at the exact same time! New York fans want to watch playoff games as they happen. In 94 when the Knicks and Rangers were both on magical runs, I don't think they were ever on at the same time for any of the games. As it should be.
I was also thinking about how the Rangers are playing the same second round matchup as they did in 94. With the potential to face the Devils in the East finals. No offense Nick, but that's what I want to see as a fan.
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The Blues lived up to their name last night. I really thought they would pull it out. They just didn't seem to have that sense of urgency in the last 5 minutes of play. but it is only one game.
the Blues outplayed the Kings all night. What killed them in the third period was killing off 6 straight minutes of penalties (4 minute double minor and then an immediate delay of game) that was from the 13 minute mark right to the 7 minute mark. It just killed them. They had nothing to give the last few minutes and the Kings buckled down. Oh well. Still think the Blues will win the series.....if Petrangelo doesn't have a concussion. If he's out then so are they.
I only watched the third period. I also think the Blues will still win the series, I just really expected them to tie the game late.
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I'd also like to thank the idiots who scheduled the Rangers and Knicks first 2 games at the exact same time! New York fans want to watch playoff games as they happen. In 94 when the Knicks and Rangers were both on magical runs, I don't think they were ever on at the same time for any of the games. As it should be.
Think of the Staples Center in LA and those fans. They have Three teams in the playoffs right now. The Kings, Lakers and Clippers. Talk about a logistical nightmare it'd seem. Which had me thinking....how thick is the ice at these NHL rinks and how long do you think it takes to freeze?
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I'd also like to thank the idiots who scheduled the Rangers and Knicks first 2 games at the exact same time! New York fans want to watch playoff games as they happen.
Yeah that is a shame, because given last night's performance, they might actually lose the series in two games. :lol
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Here's a fun fact, no one gives a shit about the Knicks or basketball. :p
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The Blues lived up to their name last night. I really thought they would pull it out. They just didn't seem to have that sense of urgency in the last 5 minutes of play. but it is only one game.
the Blues outplayed the Kings all night. What killed them in the third period was killing off 6 straight minutes of penalties (4 minute double minor and then an immediate delay of game) that was from the 13 minute mark right to the 7 minute mark. It just killed them. They had nothing to give the last few minutes and the Kings buckled down.
Plus, the Kings being on the power play for that long completely sucked the energy out of the crowd, which the team usually does a great job of feeding off of.
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Going to the coyotes game today wewt!
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Here's a fun fact, no one gives a shit about the Knicks or basketball. :p
or the flyers, Nick. :tick2:
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Hooray, Devils tie it up because of a bullshit hooking call.
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Here's a fun fact, no one gives a shit about the Knicks or basketball. :p
or the flyers, Nick. :tick2:
:lol
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And of course no call on Broduer targeting and beating the back of JVR's head.
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And after knocking off some rust, the Flyers come out on top.
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Broduer is starting to show his age.
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I would have never in a thousand years thought that Phoenix would be up 2-0 on Nashville....... :eek Guess that's why they make these guys play the games.
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I've been talking up Nashville for awhile, and they are making me look bad. I loved the segment NBC Sports did about Radulov, he's been absolute shit in the playoffs thus far.
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In basketball the better team wins a 7 game series almost every time. Not the case in Hockey. A hot goaltender and a few good breaks can lead any team to an upset win. That's whats so scary as a fan. No matter how good your team is, they can be beaten. Look at this years playoffs already.
Boston, Vancouver, Pittsburgh...all gone!
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well i think we let that one get away, should have had more goals in the first, oh well. on to game 2 we go.
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well i think we let that one get away, should have had more goals in the first, oh well. on to game 2 we go.
Its time for Marty to retire.
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lol, i don't know why people say that when he is not the one losing the game. he saved the team for the past two games to make it to round 2 and wasn't at fault for the loss yesterday. i'm ok with him playing another year when we bring up wedgewood to train under him.
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lol, i don't know why people say that when he is not the one losing the game. he saved the team for the past two games to make it to round 2 and wasn't at fault for the loss yesterday. i'm ok with him playing another year when we bring up wedgewood to train under him.
I guess its cause I remember how phenomenal he used to be. I remember the series with the Rangers in 94. He was sooooo good. Yes, he can still play, but not even close to that level.
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well i'm guessing he will have to take a big pay cut to stay next year so we have money for parise and other players to be signed. we do have a ton of money coming off the books in the off season, so parise shouldn't be a problem, the problem is getting more players to fill holes for the single season 'character' players we signed. i hope we keep ponikarovsky, he's awesome, and i enjoy calling him my little poni.
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The Phx game sure was a lot of fun!
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In basketball the better team wins a 7 game series almost every time. Not the case in Hockey. A hot goaltender and a few good breaks can lead any team to an upset win. That's whats so scary as a fan. No matter how good your team is, they can be beaten. Look at this years playoffs already.
Boston, Vancouver, Pittsburgh...all gone!
That's the truth of hockey. Sometimes all the talent in the world can't beat the team that gets lucky bounces, gets a goalie on a hot streak, and gets all the breaks. Which is why hockey's so damn FUN. The game can change in a second.
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The unpredictability is a big part of why the NHL playoffs are so awesome, and the predictability of them is largely why the NBA playoffs are often so not awesome. Every year, you can point at two or three teams in basketball and say, "One of those teams is gonna win it," and you will almost always be right. Not the case in hockey. Pittsburgh/Vancouver was a popular Finals pick before these playoffs started...and both lost in the first round! That NEVER happens in basketball. Never.
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The unpredictability is a big part of why the NHL playoffs are so awesome, and the predictability of them is largely why the NBA playoffs are often so not awesome. Every year, you can point at two or three teams in basketball and say, "One of those teams is gonna win it," and you will almost always be right. Not the case in hockey. Pittsburgh/Vancouver was a popular Finals pick before these playoffs started...and both lost in the first round! That NEVER happens in basketball. Never.
Yup, why the hell would I want to watch the games if I already know who the winner is?
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In basketball the better team wins a 7 game series almost every time. Not the case in Hockey. A hot goaltender and a few good breaks can lead any team to an upset win. That's whats so scary as a fan. No matter how good your team is, they can be beaten. Look at this years playoffs already.
Boston, Vancouver, Pittsburgh...all gone!
That's the truth of hockey. Sometimes all the talent in the world can't beat the team that gets lucky bounces, gets a goalie on a hot streak, and gets all the breaks. Which is why hockey's so damn FUN. The game can change in a second.
I love it!
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Blues are getting thier asses handed to them by LA right now.....down 2-0 already in the first. LA just pummling them. :censored LA, little bastards >:(
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:| Un..friggin'.....Real.....4-0.......Really Blues? I get LA is playing tough and they traded a 2 minute cheap shot penalty from a third line douche bag to take out your best player but c'mon......show some :censored heart.....
At this rate I won't have to worry about missing a couple nights of my upcoming vacation to in order to watch the Blues play....SOB
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Oh sure, all of the Blues victories I went to this year, and they picked last night to finally lose a game I went to. :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
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well this sucks, it sounds like kovie is hurt, and we have a lou conference, which usually means he's taking a serious measure. i'm guessing we are without kovie until further notice.
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You'll be better off anyway if that's the case.
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he was a liability last game, just taking long minutes and not shooting at all, so it's better that he's out resting for game 4ish
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well....they won't really notice Pieterangelo gone the next two games...he was donkey balls on the road...the reason he wasn't nominated for the Norris.
Can't get "half of the award" for only being a factor in "half of the games".
Maybe next year Blues.
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well....they won't really notice Pieterangelo gone the next two games...he was donkey balls on the road...the reason he wasn't nominated for the Norris.
Can't get "half of the award" for only being a factor in "half of the games".
Maybe next year Blues.
I'd take a 'Donkey Balls' Petrangelo over a forward playing D Karlsson any day of the week. It will be impossible to prove until about 10 years from now but when it's all said and done Karlsson will be someone you need to look up to even remember who he was.....Petrangelo will be a 3 or 4 time Norris Trophy winner with a couple Stanley Cups as well.
And...the majority of the Defensmen in the league would love to have Petrangelo's road stats.
Oh and.....the series is only 2-0....it's not 4-0 just yet. This sucker is going 7. Quick got his 'stolen' game in game 1..and the Kings got thier good team win last night but in doing so they may have done just what the Blues needed to get thier heads out of their asses......
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The Blues were the better team throughout most of the season, because frankly the Kings didn't have their game together. If the Kings continue to play to their full potential then the Blues will be lucky to even push them to a game 6.
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I would have never in a thousand years thought that Phoenix would be up 2-0 on Nashville....... :eek Guess that's why they make these guys play the games.
I love it. Go Coyotes Go!
And it's the team, whose owner is still NHL.
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The Blues just need to be more consistent. They were absolutely dominant in the 1st period of Game 1, and were the better team for the majority of last night, but Quick stole Game 1, and that disastrous 1st period last night was too much to overcome. If the Blues play to their full potential, and Elliot shakes last night off (since Halak is out for the rest of this round), there is no reason why they can't do what the Kings just did: win two straight on the road. They have a huge hole to climb out of, but they can do it, and it has been done before. I remember in the late 90s in a series between Detroit and Colorado, Detroit won the first two at Colorado, Game 2 being a complete beatdown, and the Avalanche looked dead in the water, but the Avs then somehow got their shit together and won the next four(three at Detroit, one at home), all of which in dominating fashion. So, this is far from over.
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Karlson = Swedish Orr.
Pieteranglo might..MIGHT be a Dan Boyle one day....when his coach has last change.
You can keep him.
I'm pulling for Elliot though.....so many ex-sens still in it..I love Fisher nailing Vermette, only to have Antoine sneak behind him for a great goal.
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I would have never in a thousand years thought that Phoenix would be up 2-0 on Nashville....... :eek Guess that's why they make these guys play the games.
I love it. Go Coyotes Go!
And it's the team, whose owner is still NHL.
not according to the news today, the league approved the sale.
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The Kings were my pick to come out of the West at the beginning of the year. They have a really good team, and once they hired Sutter and traded for Carter they played some really good hockey. Now, you are seeing their offence that lacked all year produce, and they are a very scary team. They could go all the way if they keep playing like this.
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I would have never in a thousand years thought that Phoenix would be up 2-0 on Nashville....... :eek Guess that's why they make these guys play the games.
I love it. Go Coyotes Go!
And it's the team, whose owner is still NHL.
not according to the news today, the league approved the sale.
Where did you see this? I haven't seen it anywhere and I live in Phoenix haha
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Well shit NJ has played really freaking well tonight, and my team has not, Bryz did his part and the players did not, kind of a reversal of last series. Philly better come out swinging on thursday!
Go Philly! :tup
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Yeah, not sure WTF was up with the Flyers tonight, no where near enough energy.
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epic effort tonight, i'm happy they pulled through.
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Yeah, not sure WTF was up with the Flyers tonight, no where near enough energy.
Not exactly sure, but the main thing I noticed was their movement and passing wasn't there tonight, maybe that was phillys fault or if it was NJ's defending style tonight, either way they better combat that in the next game.
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Yeah, the Flyers looked off tonight.
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Exhausting night last night. Thank god it ended with a win. :metal
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Red Wings out? Damn it...
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Err....welcome to two weeks ago?
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Err....welcome to two weeks ago?
:lol
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Hoping the Blues can make it a bit of a series by getting a 'W' tonight in LA. Petrangelo is going to play which is a good morale booster.....but the good (and bad) thing is that the Blues have yet to play thier 'best' game. Good because it's still out there wating to be played, bad because due to that fact their in a 0-2 hole. So perhaps tonight they can snap out of it and at least make LA earn it.....
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Well, turns out that losing Halak was far more significant than we realized now that Brian Elliot has gone back to being Brian Elliot. Granted, the Blues are getting outplayed, but a goalie being a wall could have made a difference. Cripes.
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Well, turns out that losing Halak was far more significant than we realized now that Brian Elliot has gone back to being Brian Elliot. Granted, the Blues are getting outplayed, but a goalie being a wall could have made a difference. Cripes.
Huge difference. We got Halak for the playoffs. Sucks he's out but it's pretty clear which team wants to win this series. At times I frickin hate being a Blues fan. If they can get an early goal it'd be nice.
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Jeez! Holy definition of 'soft' goals! WTF? I know Elliot had a good year but c'mon dude....
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Roman Turek cannot believe some of these goals Brian Elliot is letting in. #jimromeshtick
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I don't think any amount of well crafted words could sufficiently describe how utterly disappointed I am at this moment. I'll hand it to the Kings..... They are on fire and playing for each other and to win...but it fucking sucks to watch a team you know can play better look so fucking bad...
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As much as I'm not sure how many more playoff overtime games I can take, I sure didn't mind the outcome tonight :biggrin:
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I don't think any amount of well crafted words could sufficiently describe how utterly disappointed I am at this moment. I'll hand it to the Kings..... They are on fire and playing for each other and to win...but it fucking sucks to watch a team you know can play better look so fucking bad...
I feel for you.
A wasted season, the Blues are changing their game to the Kings...or to least defend against what the Kings are doing. It's frustrating Im sure.
and...that's the Brian Elliot I know and love from last season!!! Welcome back Brian.
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I don't think any amount of well crafted words could sufficiently describe how utterly disappointed I am at this moment. I'll hand it to the Kings..... They are on fire and playing for each other and to win...but it fucking sucks to watch a team you know can play better look so fucking bad...
I feel for you.
A wasted season, the Blues are changing their game to the Kings...or to least defend against what the Kings are doing. It's frustrating Im sure.
and...that's the Brian Elliot I know and love from last season!!! Welcome back Brian.
The Kings in the simplest way to put it are the better 'team'....no doubt about it. They are doing everything right and are playing as one unit and the Blues at the moment have a bunch of individuals running around trying to do too much. Like you pointed out...the Blues have modified thier game to try and stop the Kings....and you can't do that. I thought it was remarkable when they mentioned that Sutter hasn't touched the lines or line up the entire playoffs but Vancouver and now the Blues have made multiple changes to try and combat them. That says ALOT.
I know Elliot had a good year but that was in a back-up, relatively stress free role. Halak was always intended to be 'the man'...it :censored sucks he got hurt but that's just the way the playoffs go and that is DEFINATELY the way it is for the Blues. Time and time again, year after year. The Cubs of the NHL....anyway, once again it looks like Blues fans will get to have a multitude of magical 'what if' scenarios to go over and over in their head all offseason.....
I know the series isn't technically over...but it would take LA's team bus hitting an IED on the way to the Staples center for the Blues to even sniff a chance at winning a game...let alone coming back in this series.
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Err....welcome to two weeks ago?
Thanks, I like it here.
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Time and time again, year after year. The Cubs of the NHL....anyway, once again it looks like Blues fans will get to have a multitude of magical 'what if' scenarios to go over and over in their head all offseason.....
Bite your tongue. The Blues cannot even think of approaching the laughable fail of the Cubs.
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what the heck? haha
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:lol
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the actual photo is terrifying, i would run like hell thinking it's the exorcist.
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Just read that TJ Oshie, Andy McDonald, Alex Steen, Patrick Berglund and David Perron are not returning to the Blues next year! :omg: They announced to the team shortly after being swept by L.A. that they had sold the invisibility technology they had collectively developed in the second round to the Pentagon and are now filthy rich.
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Man, the Devils are playing great, but the Flyers are playing like crap. Who knew after the first two months of the season it would be Bryz that was holding on and giving us the chance to win. I wonder if having Meszaros would even be enough to have gotten us a game or two.
We need to pick it up a LOT to even have a shot at this, but sadly I don't see it happening. I don't know how the Devils have sparked so bright, but it looks like they'll take it... dammit.
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Kings are peaking at the right time. and they were built this year with the playoffs in mind.
I'm still not sold on the Devils, but anything is possible when you get on a roll and keep working for 60 minutes or more and stick to the plan.
I'm glad Brodeur was given a rest finally for most of the first half of the year. Without him on his game they don't get past Florida.
That Zedlicky goal was pretty impressive too, defencemen generally don't do that anymore.
All this year proves (again) is that the regular season means NOTHING and it's just about getting into the playoffs.
I guess we'll see how the Washington-Rangers series develops. I'm still mildly surprised they got past Ottawa. The longer the series goes, the better it is for Washington.
Jim Rome? Now there's a guy that knows hockey...........
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Since the Red Wings disappeard I guess I'm rooting for Washington.
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Man, the Devils are playing great, but the Flyers are playing like crap. Who knew after the first two months of the season it would be Bryz that was holding on and giving us the chance to win. I wonder if having Meszaros would even be enough to have gotten us a game or two.
We need to pick it up a LOT to even have a shot at this, but sadly I don't see it happening. I don't know how the Devils have sparked so bright, but it looks like they'll take it... dammit.
As a Ranger fan, I felt going into the playoffs the Devils were as dangerous team as there was. I guess that's showing true. I still think the Flyers have a shot if they can really pound Marty with enough shots. He's not as quick as he used to be. One period at a time. That's how the Flyers have to approach things.
Nerve racking game coming up tonight for Ranger fans. I feel its a must win. It would be tough to go down 3-2 for a second series and fight through it. but if they do lose tonight I will not lose hope!
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Ovi should get one game.
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so should giroux, but i don't think stars get suspensions.
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Giroux suspended one game, and my reaction...
Are you fucking kidding me? Was it interference? Sure. But he just got in front of him and straightened up, this literally a "back" check, not sure how the fuck you target the head in this instance.
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His shoulder came up and made initial contact with Zubrus's face. I think if the initial point of contact would have been his chest, there wouldn't have been a ruling like this, but because the shoulder went up and into his head, they are compelled to level a suspension. Sucks, but it's the iron-clad to-the-letter interpretation of the rule.
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I'm not contending that Giroux (barely) made contact with his head, I'm simply saying that to say he targeted the head is fucking laughable at best. Anyone who plays the game knows he was trying to stand him up and keep him from the puck. Yeah he was late with it and should have been a penalty (head contact was called, but that was as I've said incidental and should have been interference), but there should be no damn suspension.
And one only has to know that James Neal, who charged, interfered, AND blatantly targeted the head got the exact same suspension to know how laughable this is.
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The rule says any hit where the head is the initial point of contact violates the rule. I'm not surprised they suspended him simply because they've been so damn strict all year.
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The rule says any hit where the head is the initial point of contact violates the rule. I'm not surprised they suspended him simply because they've been so damn strict all year.
Okay, let's say this is reasonable (which is hardly is), that still leaves the issue that if G gets 1 game, and Torres gets 25 games, Neal should have gotten around 10 games. I thought Shanahan did a pretty decent job during the season, but boy has he fucking sucked in the playoffs.
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I'm not defending the suspension, merely saying I'm not surprised due to how strict they've been. There have been a number of non-calls as well as extreme suspensions. I'm sure Shanahan looked at this as the opportunity to deprive a team of its star to send a message, made even more intense by the suspension happening in an elimination game.
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Did you guys watch the suspension explanation video? It goes some way to explaining their thought process.
https://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=60&id=176718 (https://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=60&id=176718)
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The rule says any hit where the head is the initial point of contact violates the rule. I'm not surprised they suspended him simply because they've been so damn strict all year.
Okay, let's say this is reasonable (which is hardly is), that still leaves the issue that if G gets 1 game, and Torres gets 25 games, Neal should have gotten around 10 games. I thought Shanahan did a pretty decent job during the season, but boy has he fucking sucked in the playoffs.
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This I absolutely agree with. I hope Tores' appeal actually gets something done about it. It's ridiculous in comparison to other things at the beginning of the playoffs.
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Did you guys watch the suspension explanation video? It goes some way to explaining their thought process.
https://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=60&id=176718 (https://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=60&id=176718)
Yes, I've watched pretty much every Shanny video this season. Problem is much of this video is irrelevant, wrong, or just fucking stupid.
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Giroux suspended one game, and my reaction...
Are you fucking kidding me? Was it interference? Sure. But he just got in front of him and straightened up, this literally a "back" check, not sure how the fuck you target the head in this instance.
And the D-Bag from the Kings who boarded Petrangelo, busted his chin wide open....and inflicted as Ken Hitchcock described today a 'serious injury'....got two minutes :justjen
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Giroux suspended one game, and my reaction...
Are you fucking kidding me? Was it interference? Sure. But he just got in front of him and straightened up, this literally a "back" check, not sure how the fuck you target the head in this instance.
And the D-Bag from the Kings who boarded Petrangelo, busted his chin wide open....and inflicted as Ken Hitchcock described today a 'serious injury'....got two minutes :justjen
And not even a hearing with the NHL. Pathetic.
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For the record, I would have been MUCH more okay with this had it been a suspension for unsportsmanlike conduct, as I'm not happy with the way Giroux acted in that situation.
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Am I the only one who thinks the Rangers are the sloppiest team in the playoffs?
They have no physical puck support and their down low cycling game sucks. They spend more time chasing the puck and backpedalling for errant passes than they do attacking. They always seem to make one too many passes and have next to no transition game with very little offensive zone presence.
They should watch the Devils for pointers on how to properly forecheck and cycle the puck.
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Well that makes it interesting.
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Am I the only one who thinks the Rangers are the sloppiest team in the playoffs?
yes
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Don't get me wrong, I want the Rangers to beat the Caps, i just found it frustrating watching them. Certainly proved me wrong tonight.
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Don't get me wrong, I want the Rangers to beat the Caps, i just found it frustrating watching them. Certainly proved me wrong tonight.
They don't play pretty hockey but they work there ass's off defensively.
What a game!!!! RANGERS WIN, BABY!!! :metal
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Am I the only one who thinks the Rangers are the sloppiest team in the playoffs?
After witnessing what I'm watching at the moment I would say that distinction clearly goes to the Flyers. Just bloody awful.
and Byzgalov made one of the worst moves I have ever seen by a goalie. Here, have a goal, on me!
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Lol sieve-galov
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The Coyotes and Kings are playing FANTASTIC hockey...just on a roll and playing true team play...laying it on the line for each other, the whole nine yards AND they both have incredible goalies. That is going to be some series to watch. Both teams fought thier asses off for quite some time and DESERVE to be right where they are. Congrats to them! Kind of reminiscant of the StL Cardinals in last years World Series run....had to win 20 of their last 25 games just to get in and stayed hot.
That being said, if you would have told me before the playoffs started that not one of the 4 Central division teams (Chicago, Nashville, Detroit and St. Louis..all whom are tough ass teams from a VERY tight and tough division) or Vancouver would be playing for the chance to go to the cup...I'd have called you insane! There is nothing like playoff hockey...its incredible.
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Congrats to the Devils, they played a great series and deserved the win.
As I had said when we got Bryz, we also need to address defense, and this season Carle seemingly fell apart. Timonen is not going to get any younger and we don't have any elite defensemen anymore. I love the addition of Grossmann, but we need to trade away Carle and one of our offensive chips (hopefully JVR) in order to acquire an elite tough defenseman.
All this is premised on Pronger hopefully retiring.
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Quit being sensible and taking the higher road Nick, I will crush you!
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Congrats to the Devils, they played a great series and deserved the win.
As I had said when we got Bryz, we also need to address defense, and this season Carle seemingly fell apart. Timonen is not going to get any younger and we don't have any elite defensemen anymore. I love the addition of Grossmann, but we need to trade away Carle and one of our offensive chips (hopefully JVR) in order to acquire an elite tough defenseman.
All this is premised on Pronger hopefully retiring.
Thank You...better luck next decade.... Your teams cheap shots didnt work... your team played like the goons they are..
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Congrats to the Devils, they played a great series and deserved the win.
As I had said when we got Bryz, we also need to address defense, and this season Carle seemingly fell apart. Timonen is not going to get any younger and we don't have any elite defensemen anymore. I love the addition of Grossmann, but we need to trade away Carle and one of our offensive chips (hopefully JVR) in order to acquire an elite tough defenseman.
All this is premised on Pronger hopefully retiring.
Thank You...better luck next decade.... Your teams cheap shots didnt work... your team played like the goons they are..
:lol
Rinaldo had one cheap shot, which I scold him for, but everyone else was cleaner than Volchenkov's hit which saw an elbow in Schenn's head.
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Nick:
Wow. What a homer.
The elbow/head wasnt the point of contact, and only slid up to the head after the initial hit put schenn off his feet.
Shoulder to Shoulder, both skates on the ice, player not vunerable. It is as clear as day.
Clean hit. Period.
EV:
99% of the hits the Flyers gave were clean. They didnt play like goons. But it was too bad the energy they put into playing the body wasnt used more for playing the puck.
Good to see you still have the same posting style as you did in PR.
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Am I the only one who thinks the Rangers are the sloppiest team in the playoffs?
They have no physical puck support and their down low cycling game sucks. They spend more time chasing the puck and backpedalling for errant passes than they do attacking. They always seem to make one too many passes and have next to no transition game with very little offensive zone presence.
They should watch the Devils for pointers on how to properly forecheck and cycle the puck.
they have benefitted from two VERY BIG series changing calls......the 5 on 3 call in Game 6 against the Sens. And the 4 minute one the other night. Im in no way saying the officials were wrong, or that the other teams didn't get some calls go their way......but those two calls were MASSIVE....lucky type things to go their way.
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The Rangers obviously haven't won 7 playoff games through pure luck, but their passing is erratic and their down low puck support, at least against Washington, is horrific. They are almost always beaten to the puck and if by some chance they get their first, there is no second man support to help them fish it out. The 3OT winner that Gaborik scored was one of the few plays where support was there, and it resulted in the puck coming out in front to a well-positioned player who buried it. I've lost count of the number of outlet passes that have either missed the mark or bounced off sticks to be scooped up by a Cap.
Again, I'm pulling for the Rangers to win this series, I'm just amazed that a team so highly ranked and skilled is so sloppy in the second round of the playoffs. Their defense is very good, though, and that can go a very long way. Lundquist doesn't hurt their chances, either.
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I have been reading the Rangers getting ripped all season long, and it continues right through the post season. Here is reality. The Rangers worked their asses off all season to be the number 1 seed in the east. They deserve credit for putting themselves in that position. They are in the second round of the playoffs, and they are up 3 games to 2.
They are not the perfect team, but they are still playing hockey while the Bruins, Penguins, Panthers, Flyers, and Senators are done.
I have heard them called sloppy, ugly, lucky, etc. They play again tonight.
Also, all the giants in the west have forks in them as well, so lets give an over achieving team some credit, where credit is due.
They were 6 seconds from being down 3-2, but they found a way. That's hockey!
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Once again, I WANT THEM TO WIN THIS SERIES and I'm not saying they don't deserve to be where they are. Seriously. I'm simply remarking on their style habits.
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Once again, I WANT THEM TO WIN THIS SERIES and I'm not saying they don't deserve to be where they are. Seriously. I'm simply remarking on their style habits.
I'm not attacking you Hyperplex. Nor was my post in direct response to what you said. I'm just saying what I feel about a team I have continually read negative stuff the entire season. I was told months ago when I was enjoying the success to calm down, their probably not even one of the top 5 teams in the league. My point is, through hard work, they are!
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Tick...
enjoy bro.. enjoy the rest of the Playoffs my friend...
I am banned.. so not around much.. to the nice people...peace and love..its been real
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I'm not attacking you Hyperplex. Nor was my post in direct response to what you said. I'm just saying what I feel about a team I have continually read negative stuff the entire season. I was told months ago when I was enjoying the success to calm down, their probably not even one of the top 5 teams in the league. My point is, through hard work, they are!
All good, bro. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't getting under your skin. Any team that gets one win from the Conference Finals is obviously more than just a flash in the pan. I like watching a team that works hard get rewarded.
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Who's been ripping the Rangers? It was pretty clear since mid season that they were the best team in the league, at least to me anyway.
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Probably a little late, but lets give some well deserved credit to the Panthers. In one year, Tallon put together a practically new team from scratch, and first year coach Dineen led them to the first playoffs in like many, many years. They took the Devils to game 7 overtime. Look for them to make a few more additions and be a team in the playoff mix again in the future. :tup
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Who's been ripping the Rangers? It was pretty clear since mid season that they were the best team in the league, at least to me anyway.
If you had a chance to read the thread you would see quite a few have always wanted to discredit them. At least as a fan, that's what I have noticed.
but whatever....GAME 6 TONIGHT! :metal
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I would like nothing more than to see a handshake line in DC tonight.
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The series has been great, despite whoever ends up winning I just want to see a game 7.
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Once again: a clean faceoff win but a sloppy, failed clear resulting in a power play set up and goal.
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Looks like Washington is gonna send it to game 7... should be an interesting one!
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lets go caps!
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At this point I want the Caps to win just so I have an Eastern team to root for in the conference finals. :lol
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I felt a game 7 was destined and unfortunately I was right. I expect Saturday nights game to be sheer hell to watch. Hope the Rangers come out on top.
Rangers, Devils = must see epic hockey!
Caps, Devils = meh, who cares.
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Kings win the cup regardless
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Rangers, Devils = must see epic hockey!
Caps, Devils = meh, who cares.
Not a Rangers fan but I agree.
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Kings win the cup regardless
I might have to agree with you here.
I'll admit I was wrong about the Devils. It's nice of them to come together at the right time play 60 or more minutes a game of passionate, disciplined hockey and not get caught up in extra cirrcular activities.
At the beginning of the year, I thought this was possible but the regular season fooled me into think a deep playoff run was a pipe dream. The Flyers series has me thinking big again. Bernier, Poni and Zidlicky addresed the depth issues and Gionta Jr. is having the best month of his NHL career.
As far as the Rangers goes. I still think they are toast and quite likely out of gas. But I'm torn. The Rangers are the weaker team and the Devils can handle them easier than Washington right now.
We'll see what happens in Game 7. That's why they have to play them. Should be a fun evening.
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i hope we make the cup finals and i hope it's against the kings. the last time a team was heavily favored versus the devils, they sort of got crushed in a sweep.
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You realize 5 games =/= sweep? :p
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You realize 5 games =/= sweep? :p
I think he was talking about 1995 against the Red Wings with Scotty Bowman coaching.
Except that year the Red Wings were known more for talent and finesse than size and grit and they didn't learn how to win yet.
The Kings -- if they make it -- will be favored for sure, but probably not heavily.
Oh, and what the hell did you do with your avatar, Nick?
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I honestly think if the Devils get past the Rangers they will win the cup. Saturday night I will be a bag a stress.
I love sports! Its so relaxing. :\
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Rangers have never lost a game 7 on home ice in the history of the franchise...
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Rangers have never lost a game 7 on home ice in the history of the franchise...
Well hopefully this is where being top seed makes the difference. I know its going to be brutal. The Caps were flying high in game 6. The Rangers and Lundquist are going to have to be great to pull it off.
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You realize 5 games =/= sweep? :p
I think he was talking about 1995 against the Red Wings with Scotty Bowman coaching.
Except that year the Red Wings were known more for talent and finesse than size and grit and they didn't learn how to win yet.
Ugh. I hate this stupid cliché.
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Rangers have never lost a game 7 on home ice in the history of the franchise...
I love meaningless stats and facts like this. :tup :tup
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They aren't 100% meaningless, it does give the current team a little extra incentive to win and not have that held over their heads for the next 5 years.
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No, it's meaningless because the team that plays better tomorrow will win. If the Rangers win, it won't be because Rangers team of the past that have NOTHING to do with this team all won their Game 7s at home. That is why it is meaningless.
And I seriously doubt this Rangers team give a crap about being the first Ranger team to lose a Game 7 at home. I am pretty sure they'll be more pissed about having blown an excellent shot at winning the Cup.
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No, it's meaningless because the team that plays better tomorrow will win. If the Rangers win, it won't be because Rangers team of the past that have NOTHING to do with this team all won their Game 7s at home. That is why it is meaningless.
And I seriously doubt this Rangers team give a crap about being the first Ranger team to lose a Game 7 at home. I am pretty sure they'll be more pissed about having blown an excellent shot at winning the Cup.
More like the team that scores more goals than the other team. Playing better is no guarantee of success.
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Rangers have never lost a game 7 on home ice in the history of the franchise...
I love meaningless stats and facts like this. :tup :tup
Whats meaningless about it unless your reading more into it
Have the Rangers ever lost a game 7 at home ? NO
So up to this point it makes it a fact...will it eventually happen, absolutely the law of averages say so
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Rangers have never lost a game 7 on home ice in the history of the franchise...
I love meaningless stats and facts like this. :tup :tup
Relax, Kev. Its just factual info. Do with it what you will.
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Rangers have never lost a game 7 on home ice in the history of the franchise...
I love meaningless stats and facts like this. :tup :tup
Whats meaningless about it unless your reading more into it
Have the Rangers ever lost a game 7 at home ? NO
So up to this point it makes it a fact...will it eventually happen, absolutely the law of averages say so
It's not meaningless because this ranger team won a hone game 7 two weeks ago. They have the experience. From a historical perspective it is somewhat meaningless as no one on this team played in the other game 7s.
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Weird. Two players from Flyers are leading the playoffs' scorer list (Giroux and Briere).
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Weird. Two players from Flyers are leading the playoffs' scorer list (Giroux and Briere).
Why is that weird?
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Weird. Two players from Flyers are leading the playoffs' scorer list (Giroux and Briere).
the Flyers/Pens series lacked any defense or goaltending whatsoever, so the stats were padded.
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RANGERS BETTER WIN!!!!! :censored
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RANGERS BETTER WIN!!!!! :censored
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It's party time!
Actually have to credit Tortorella for getting them this far. Ownership's got their budgeted playoff revenue.
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So far it looks like the rangers are playing better. Not cause it'd 1-0 in third favor, bit they seem more aggressive and just more lively. I hope they can keep it up for one more period. This is certainly going to be exciting.
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Bye bye, Caps! Good on ya, Rangers.
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Rangers are done.....as I've said before.
The Devils won tonight and they are done too.
Even if they win game seven, the next series is the end of the line.
Does that mean we should get ready for Rangers, Devils? :lol
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I would say that the Sens v. Rangers game is toss up..but..BUT if the Rangers win..they're done.
RANGERS, BABY!!!! :metal :biggrin:
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The Bruins are just beasts...almost every one of them.
The Rangers......are not. There isn't a single name on that line-up that scares anyone.
I'M SO PUMPED UP RIGHT NOW!!!!! READY....FOR....ROUND.......3!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :metal :metal :metal
NEW YORK RANGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I watch no hockey but I can't help but get wrapped up in this Ranger run. What a game.
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I watch no hockey but I can't help but get wrapped up in this Ranger run. What a game.
OH YEAH!!! :metal
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Damnit, with Caps out my top 3 teams are gone for this year. "Lucky" for me my 4th favorite team is Rangers, so lets hope they win this thing now.
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This next round is going to kick copious amounts of ass.
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Damnit, with Caps out my top 3 teams are gone for this year. "Lucky" for me my 4th favorite team is Rangers, so lets hope they win this thing now.
4th favorite team? I am pretty sure sports fans aren't "allowed" four favorite teams in a sport.
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Got my ticket for game four of Rangers-Devils :hat
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Damnit, with Caps out my top 3 teams are gone for this year. "Lucky" for me my 4th favorite team is Rangers, so lets hope they win this thing now.
4th favorite team? I am pretty sure sports fans aren't "allowed" four favorite teams in a sport.
Seriously...what are you, 8? You pick ONE team and live and die for them. None of this "second favorite"...and much less none of this "fourth favorite" crap. LOL
That being said, it's ok to choose a team that you'd like to see win once your actual favorite team is done. In my case, I'm a die-hard Flyers fan, and them blowing it again is enough to make me want to throw myself off the bridge (those of you who know me well know I go through several times a year with the various teams I love). So now that the Flyers are out, I'm officially rooting for whoever wins the West as I hate the Rangers and the Devils equally.
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And I'm pulling for the Kings.
And I'm always fine with a 2nd favorite team as long as it's out of the conference that you typically play in. As such I've always loved New England (football) and the Red Wings.
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Damnit, with Caps out my top 3 teams are gone for this year. "Lucky" for me my 4th favorite team is Rangers, so lets hope they win this thing now.
4th favorite team? I am pretty sure sports fans aren't "allowed" four favorite teams in a sport.
Seriously...what are you, 8? You pick ONE team and live and die for them. None of this "second favorite"...and much less none of this "fourth favorite" crap. LOL
That being said, it's ok to choose a team that you'd like to see win once your actual favorite team is done. In my case, I'm a die-hard Flyers fan, and them blowing it again is enough to make me want to throw myself off the bridge (those of you who know me well know I go through several times a year with the various teams I love). So now that the Flyers are out, I'm officially rooting for whoever wins the West as I hate the Rangers and the Devils equally.
I say live and let live! If he wants to have 10 favorite teams, so be it. As long as he is rooting for the Rangers, that's all that matters at this time! :metal
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And I'm pulling for the Kings.
And I'm always fine with a 2nd favorite team as long as it's out of the conference that you typically play in. As such I've always loved New England (football) and the Red Wings.
THEIR ARE NO RULES!!! ROOT FOR AS MANY TEAMS AS YOU WANT IN WHATEVER CONFERENCE THEY ARE IN!!!! :tick2:
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I'll be in LA during game 3 and seriously considering getting tickets... however I'm staying in Anaheim by disneyland because my training is there. How much of the game would I miss because of traffic? My training ends at 5 and game starts at 6.
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Weird. Two players from Flyers are leading the playoffs' scorer list (Giroux and Briere).
Why is that weird?
Because they are out. And Giroux has a clear lead.
But yeah, he made 3+3 in game 3 (?) against Penguins.
Rangers won! Yeah.
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Damnit, with Caps out my top 3 teams are gone for this year. "Lucky" for me my 4th favorite team is Rangers, so lets hope they win this thing now.
4th favorite team? I am pretty sure sports fans aren't "allowed" four favorite teams in a sport.
Seriously...what are you, 8? You pick ONE team and live and die for them. None of this "second favorite"...and much less none of this "fourth favorite" crap. LOL
That being said, it's ok to choose a team that you'd like to see win once your actual favorite team is done.
Yeah that last thing there is what I'm doing. My real team is out and after them I have a list of 3 other teams I support if my number one is gone. And all 1, 2 and 3 is out leaving only Rangers, which I like the most of those left.
And also I'm barely interested in sports, so I don't really function like a normal sport liking person.
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it's on, we will see who survives to go grab the cup from the east.
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Rangers are done.....as I've said before.
The Devils won tonight and they are done too.
Even if they win game seven, the next series is the end of the line.
Does that mean we should get ready for Rangers, Devils? :lol
Happy to be proven wrong on one count. The other? Not so much.
I'll leave the worrying to others.
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Damnit, with Caps out my top 3 teams are gone for this year. "Lucky" for me my 4th favorite team is Rangers, so lets hope they win this thing now.
4th favorite team? I am pretty sure sports fans aren't "allowed" four favorite teams in a sport.
Seriously...what are you, 8? You pick ONE team and live and die for them. None of this "second favorite"...and much less none of this "fourth favorite" crap. LOL
That being said, it's ok to choose a team that you'd like to see win once your actual favorite team is done.
Yeah that last thing there is what I'm doing. My real team is out and after them I have a list of 3 other teams I support if my number one is gone. And all 1, 2 and 3 is out leaving only Rangers, which I like the most of those left.
And also I'm barely interested in sports, so I don't really function like a normal sport liking person.
That's OK, other than my increasing disinterest in hockey the NHL, I'm not at all into sports myself.
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Rangers have never lost a game 7 on home ice in the history of the franchise...
I love meaningless stats and facts like this. :tup :tup
Rangers still haven't lost a game 7 at home ;D
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Rangers, Devils is a dream come true for the NHL. If any series match up was going to get even the casual fan watching, its this one.
and if the Rangers played the Kings for the cup it would be epic as well!!!!
Buckled up for game 1!!! :metal
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New York vs LA would certainly be a good match up for the NHL, the two biggest markets.
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and the Devils quickly realize their is a big difference between Lundquist and Bryzgalov! They would have scored probably 3 goals in the first 2 periods against the weak Flyers goalie. Lundquist was brilliant!
King Henrik owned the night!!!! :metal
RANGERS!!!!
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The Rangers played a great 3rd period. I think the devils thought they were worn down, and then the speed of krieder killed them.
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almost like a bit of rope-a-dope was played in the first two periods.....
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The Rangers played a great 3rd period. I think the devils thought they were worn down, and then the speed of krieder killed them.
Yeah, I would love to know what was said in the locker room after the 2nd period. The Devils were clearly fresher, and playing at a different speed for the 1st 2 periods. The Rangers came out with a purpose in the 3rd.
The announcers were saying they expected a high scoring game in the pregame show. I was not expecting that. Then again, with a lesser goalie, the Devils would have certainly scored some goals.
almost like a bit of rope-a-dope was played in the first two periods.....
ALI BOOM BA YA!!!! :metal
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rough start, but this team comes back hard when they are defeated. panthers and flyers both thought they had what it took.
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rough start, but this team comes back hard when they are defeated. panthers and flyers both thought they had what it took.
The Rangers do!!!
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rough start, but this team comes back hard when they are defeated. panthers and flyers both thought they had what it took.
LOL. Double overtime game 7. The Panthers most certainly had what it took if it goes that far. Stop with the silly talk.
Flyers are a different story.
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At this point after watching the majority of the games, I don't see how the Kings lose a 7 game series to any of the teams remaining. They are playing INSANE hockey! As good as the Rangers and even the Devils have played to this point in the playoffs neither have played as dominant as the Kings, or play as great a team game the Kings are playing at the moment. I don't see how Phoenix can come back, the possibility always remains that they could I suppose, that's why they play the games....but man the Kings just look unbeatable.
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As great as the Kings look, I don't think momentum really affects anything, or is necessarily predictive of future outcomes.
Take last year's conference finals, for example, in which the Canucks manhandled the Sharks and Luongo was playing phenomenally, and the Bruins and Thomas struggled against a mediocre Lightning team.
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I don't think anyone can say the kings don't look scarey good right now. However, I wouldn't say that one of the eastern teams won't have a very good shot.
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As good as the Kings are playing, I like the winner of the east to win the cup!
The Kings will not be having a scoring frenzy like that have thus far against the Rangers if they meet. The Rangers D is too tough and Lundquist is too good! IMO!
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If LA keeps playing like this, I'll be surprised if they lose more than a game or two the rest of the way. The Rangers are really good, too, but from what I've seen, LA has been BY FAR the best team in these playoffs thus far.
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As good as the Kings are playing, I like the winner of the east to win the cup!
The Kings will not be having a scoring frenzy like that have thus far against the Rangers if they meet. The Rangers D is too tough and Lundquist is too good! IMO!
Well in that case it would be 'D' vs 'D' and goalie vs goalie....and if anything it'd be a draw as to who was 'better'. Obviously you're going to go with the Rangers as you should.....my original point was only that out of all the teams thus far in the playoffs the Kings have been the most consistent, the most dominant....and the most 'SCARY' looking to play.
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Yeah, and before anyone pulls out the "Yeah, but the Rangers will have home ice in the Finals" argument, home ice has been meaningless. LA is 7-0 on the road thus far in the playoffs...all against the top 3 seeds in the West (the stronger of the two conferences this year). That is just nuts.
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And to counter, the rangers have won two game sevens with the help of home ice. I do agree though, in general home advantage does not mean as much in hockey as it does in other sports, but if it comes down to a game 7... it means a lot.
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Yeah, and before anyone pulls out the "Yeah, but the Rangers will have home ice in the Finals" argument, home ice has been meaningless. LA is 7-0 on the road thus far in the playoffs...all against the top 3 seeds in the West (the stronger of the two conferences this year). That is just nuts.
Rangers have never lost a game 7 at home! :biggrin:
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As good as the Kings are playing, I like the winner of the east to win the cup!
The Kings will not be having a scoring frenzy like that have thus far against the Rangers if they meet. The Rangers D is too tough and Lundquist is too good! IMO!
Well in that case it would be 'D' vs 'D' and goalie vs goalie....and if anything it'd be a draw as to who was 'better'. Obviously you're going to go with the Rangers as you should.....my original point was only that out of all the teams thus far in the playoffs the Kings have been the most consistent, the most dominant....and the most 'SCARY' looking to play.
They have been beyond awesome!
but every series is its own entity. I'm a Ranger fan, and I believe! :metal
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Yeah, and before anyone pulls out the "Yeah, but the Rangers will have home ice in the Finals" argument, home ice has been meaningless. LA is 7-0 on the road thus far in the playoffs...all against the top 3 seeds in the West (the stronger of the two conferences this year). That is just nuts.
Rangers have never lost a game 7 at home! :biggrin:
If the Kings and Rangers play there won't be a game 7 to lose. ;)
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Yeah, and before anyone pulls out the "Yeah, but the Rangers will have home ice in the Finals" argument, home ice has been meaningless. LA is 7-0 on the road thus far in the playoffs...all against the top 3 seeds in the West (the stronger of the two conferences this year). That is just nuts.
Rangers have never lost a game 7 at home! :biggrin:
If the Kings and Rangers play there won't be a game 7 to lose. ;)
Your right, Flyer fan, the Rangers won't need 7!
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Jersey certainly came to play last night. The Devils had stretches where they controlled the puck for minutes at a time. The Rangers as a team are responsible for making Henrik work too hard. Lundquist can only do so much! Yes... he's human. If the Devils could have teed off against there own goalie last night they would have probably scored 3 or 4 more goals.
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scorpion save!
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Marty is still awesome, though I don't think he's the best NHL goalie ever, like some do.
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The Kings are playing so awesome. How close were they to not being in the playoffs?
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The Kings are playing so awesome. How close were they to not being in the playoffs?
Dont recall point wise. I know that them, Dallas, San Jose and Phoenix essentially traded the 7th, 8th seed and the Division lead over the last month of the season or so. Dallas faded away and San Jose beat the Kings the last game of the season to get the 7th seed. Thank goodness for the Blues sake or they would have been bounced in the first round ???
But I heard a stat when the Blues were playing the Kings...don't remember it exactly but it was something along the lines of since the beginning of February the Kings held the best record at like 20-5. Add that to the fact they've only lost ONE game thus far in the playoffs and you have a team that is looking pretty friggin' tough to beat....just DOMINATING teams. It's the fact that the Kings have taken the team they are playing off thier game and forcing them to play thier game....I know you're sticking with your Rangers as you should....their a good team and your home town team....but dude, IF they get by NJ....the Kings aren't going to make it easy on them. They aren't going to make it easy on whoever they play.
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If the Kings continue to impose their will on other teams like they have up to now, NY and NJ are playing for 2nd place.
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The kings are likely to have a long break before the finals. It may cool them down.
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The kings are likely to have a long break before the finals. It may cool them down.
It could give them fresh legs and recover from injuries. You never know how it will affect a team.
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Yes that is always a debate but I think you'll find that most athletes prefer to keep playing when they are hot. I think the kings have had good sized breaks in each series cause they are playing so well, but you never know.
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You would almost never say this about an 8 seed, but in the case of the Kings and the dominance they have exuded thus far, not winning the cup at this point would be a great failure.
That's how I see it anyhow.
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Here's a recent example: the 2007 Ottawa Senators. Blitzed through the first three rounds in fifteen games, outscoring their opponents 48-31 with only average goaltending. Then got completely dominated in the finals, even though they were probably the first or second best team in the league (Buffalo was in the mix, too).
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Here's a recent example: the 2007 Ottawa Senators. Blitzed through the first three rounds in fifteen games, outscoring their opponents 48-31 with only average goaltending. Then got completely dominated in the finals, even though they were probably the first or second best team in the league (Buffalo was in the mix, too).
Its an example. Im sure you could find examples showing the opposite.
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You would almost never say this about an 8 seed, but in the case of the Kings and the dominance they have exuded thus far, not winning the cup at this point would be a great failure.
That's how I see it anyhow.
Not that every team left isn't on a determined mission to win the cup....but the Kings looked possesed. I don't see them taking anything for granted at this point, Sutter is coaching them great and being the fact they are the 8 seed and have come this far playing all out......I personally don't see them letting up or 'going cold'. Sure it could happen....I just don't see it happening.
Quick has only really had to be 'above average' in goal the first 10 minutes of game 1 vs the Blues. The Blues could have easily went in to the locker room after the first period of that game up 3 or 4 to 1....in fact they should have but Quick was a monster. Since then, he really hasn't had to shine....he's made some good saves in that time...but hasn't been forced to 'steal' anything. I think that works out better for the Kings as they go along, because he's probably got the mindset of 'if we lose it won't be because of me' or something like that and is ready to shut the door.
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Here's a recent example: the 2007 Ottawa Senators. Blitzed through the first three rounds in fifteen games, outscoring their opponents 48-31 with only average goaltending. Then got completely dominated in the finals, even though they were probably the first or second best team in the league (Buffalo was in the mix, too).
Its an example. Im sure you could find examples showing the opposite.
I don't think momentum counts for much. And I think LA is a prime candidate for regression, just because their shooting percentage (9.9%) and especially save percentage (0.951) are unsustainable.
If NY comes out of the East, they are the better team and I think they will win. LA/Devils is a wash.
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If NY comes out of the East, they are the better team and I think they will win.
Maybe....and that's only if NY can avoid what the Canucks, Blues and Coyotes have done. And that is abandoning 'thier' game to play LA's game. LA has forced each team they've faced into uncomfortable situations and not to play their own game. It would be cool to see a 'Quick vs Lundquist' type goaltending duel though......
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Here's a recent example: the 2007 Ottawa Senators. Blitzed through the first three rounds in fifteen games, outscoring their opponents 48-31 with only average goaltending. Then got completely dominated in the finals, even though they were probably the first or second best team in the league (Buffalo was in the mix, too).
Its an example. Im sure you could find examples showing the opposite.
I don't think momentum counts for much. And I think LA is a prime candidate for regression, just because their shooting percentage (9.9%) and especially save percentage (0.951) are unsustainable.
If NY comes out of the East, they are the better team and I think they will win. LA/Devils is a wash.
The fact that the Rangers can't string together back to back wins is making me weary. I really thought against the Devils they needed to win the first two and they couldn't do it. I see game 3 as a huge momentum game for its winner. I do have faith in the Rangers but the lack of goal scoring is really starting to scare me.
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Here's a recent example: the 2007 Ottawa Senators. Blitzed through the first three rounds in fifteen games, outscoring their opponents 48-31 with only average goaltending. Then got completely dominated in the finals, even though they were probably the first or second best team in the league (Buffalo was in the mix, too).
Good thing for LA that they do not have average goaltending.
And I think LA is a prime candidate for regression, just because their shooting percentage (9.9%) and especially save percentage (0.951) are unsustainable.
I guess regression means they might only win the next series 4 games to 1 or 2, instead of sweeping their opponent again, right?
The fact that the Rangers were a better regular season team means nothing at this point. The Blues and Canucks were also unquestionably better regular seasons teams than them as well, and look where that got them. RIGHT NOW, LA is far and away the best team in hockey.
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Here's a recent example: the 2007 Ottawa Senators. Blitzed through the first three rounds in fifteen games, outscoring their opponents 48-31 with only average goaltending. Then got completely dominated in the finals, even though they were probably the first or second best team in the league (Buffalo was in the mix, too).
Its an example. Im sure you could find examples showing the opposite.
I don't think momentum counts for much. And I think LA is a prime candidate for regression, just because their shooting percentage (9.9%) and especially save percentage (0.951) are unsustainable.
If NY comes out of the East, they are the better team and I think they will win. LA/Devils is a wash.
The fact that the Rangers can't string together back to back wins is making me weary. I really thought against the Devils they needed to win the first two and they couldn't do it. I see game 3 as a huge momentum game for its winner. I do have faith in the Rangers but the lack of goal scoring is really starting to scare me.
As I die-hard fan myself , its been their problem all season (goal-scoring) they win with defense and goaltending.
The number of blocked shots is astonishing (I beleive in game one they blocked more shots 26 than the Devils actually put on net 21) Kings will have to deal with this as well if the Rangers can get past the Devils
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1. The Rangers enter the weekend having outshot the Devils 53-48 through the first two games, even though the Devils have attempted 26 more shots (121-95). The reason: New York has blocked 42 shots and New Jersey has missed the target on another 31. The Devils have blocked 22 shots and the Rangers have missed the net 20 times
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The rangers have great discipline. I wouldnt worry about the rangers playing to the kings style, if they make it that far.
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Here's a recent example: the 2007 Ottawa Senators. Blitzed through the first three rounds in fifteen games, outscoring their opponents 48-31 with only average goaltending. Then got completely dominated in the finals, even though they were probably the first or second best team in the league (Buffalo was in the mix, too).
Good thing for LA that they do not have average goaltending.
And I think LA is a prime candidate for regression, just because their shooting percentage (9.9%) and especially save percentage (0.951) are unsustainable.
I guess regression means they might only win the next series 4 games to 1 or 2, instead of sweeping their opponent again, right?
The fact that the Rangers were a better regular season team means nothing at this point. The Blues and Canucks were also unquestionably better regular seasons teams than them as well, and look where that got them. RIGHT NOW, LA is far and away the best team in hockey.
This man knows what's up.
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If the Rangers play the Kings, the Rangers are winning that series.
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If the Rangers play the Kings, the Rangers are winning that series.
If they get as lucky as the Cannucks almost did against the Bruins, then yes, they might win it.
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If the Rangers play the Kings, the Rangers are winning that series.
If they get as lucky as the Cannucks almost did against the Bruins, then yes, they might win it.
Do you really think the Kings would be favored to win against the Rangers? I don't think so.
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If the Rangers play the Kings, the Rangers are winning that series.
If they get as lucky as the Cannucks almost did against the Bruins, then yes, they might win it.
Do you really think the Kings would be favored to win against the Rangers? I don't think so.
Do you really think the Rangers have played as well as the Kings in the playoffs? I don't think so.
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Based on seeding? No. Based on current play and execution? Yes.
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Based on seeding? No. Based on current play and execution? Yes.
Oddsmakers don't give a rats ass about seedings. They will base the odds on who they think will win. I think the Rangers would be favored.
First they have to get past an extremely tough Devils team.
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Seeding is completely irrelevant at this point in the playoffs, which is why a 1, 3, 6 and 8 are still playing, not two 1s and two 2s.
I will say it again: RIGHT NOW, LA is far and away the best team in hockey. They can't even lose a game right now, so it is hard to fathom any team beating them 4 out of 7 at this point.
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Oddsmakers don't give a rats ass about seedings. They will base the odds on who they think will win. I think the Rangers would be favored.
First they have to get past an extremely tough Devils team.
You are biased because you are rooting for the Rangers, which is understandable. The fact is, the Kings are manhandling everyone they are pitted against while the Rangers are playing much closer games. LA has lost 1 game so far throughout the entire playoffs while the Rangers have had to endure two 7-game series and are merely tied with the Devils at the moment. Based on that and the fact that the Kings are undefeated on the road, a pre-series assessment would lead many to believe the Kings are favored until the Rangers prove otherwise.
Mind you, being favored has nothing to do with actual likelihood of winning. Only the play on the ice can determine that.
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I'm gonna take a beating here if the Rangers get eliminated! :lol
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Way to make the Kings play another game! Thank you Phoenix! :metal
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Rocked Henrik to his core on that one, great series so far, 7 games look likely
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Rocked Henrik to his core on that one, great series so far, 7 games look likely
Yeah, you sure did. An all out assault by the Devils.
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I'm shocked that I can even talk this morning. Being at The Rock last night was absolutely incredible :hat
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you were at the arena? damn. are you going friday? let's get a drink.
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you were at the arena? damn. are you going friday? let's get a drink.
I wish I was going again on Friday, but more than one playoff game this week is a little rich for my blood. The ticket alone was almost $250, plus what was spent inside the arena. Awesome time though, definitely worth it.
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you were at the arena? damn. are you going friday? let's get a drink.
I wish I was going again on Friday, but more than one playoff game this week is a little rich for my blood. The ticket alone was almost $250, plus what was spent inside the arena. Awesome time though, definitely worth it.
The prices are ridiculous. My father wanted to go to a game with my brother and i but its just too expensive.
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Garbage! That kings/coyotes game was garbage.
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you were at the arena? damn. are you going friday? let's get a drink.
I wish I was going again on Friday, but more than one playoff game this week is a little rich for my blood. The ticket alone was almost $250, plus what was spent inside the arena. Awesome time though, definitely worth it.
The prices are ridiculous. My father wanted to go to a game with my brother and i but its just too expensive.
Yeah. I mean, we had to get our tickets secondhand on StubHub, so I don't know what the face value was. Probably wouldn't have gone except that our group was supposed to go to a second round game against the Flyers, but it ended up not working out, so we viewed the conference finals as an unexpected second chance :lol
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i practically tried to give away my ticket for saturday's game because i was away, i should have checked here first i guess. sorry guys.
though my ticket is for devils fans only so that made it more difficult to sell at a decent price level to break even.
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Early Cup Prediction: Kings in six.
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Garbage! That kings/coyotes game was garbage.
No it wasn't. The result was garbage, but the game was excellent.
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Early Cup Prediction: Kings in six.
Dont know if it'll be 5 or 6....but NY and NJ are playing for second IMO
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I was thinking about going with five, but I think whoever wins the East will at least be competitive and take two games. I mean, it IS the Stanley Cup.
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I was thinking about going with five, but I think whoever wins the East will at least be competitive and take two games. I mean, it IS the Stanley Cup.
they'd best hope the week off is a negative and not a posititve for the Kings....Stanley cup or not they've only lost 2 friggin' games in the playoffs....2!! That's insane!! Other than a complete loss of focus or a major choke job...which I suppose is possible, I find it unlikely but it is possible.....I don't see the Kings losing 4 games in one series...especially to either of the Eastern teams who (to me) have been less than impressive and have been no where near as dominant and imposing as the Kings have.
To me it's the Kings cup to lose....
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To me it's the Kings cup to lose....
Oh, for sure, and, barring the things you've already brought up, I don't see them losing. They're just too good. Quick is off the charts good, he's stopping everything right now, and the rest of the team is gelling, and everything is just coming together for them at the right time.
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Two words for you. Mo mentum.
Kings could easily lose it with the week long break. There's a reason they play the games. Someone brought up the '07 Sens earlier, they won all three series 4-1 up to the finals, then got schooled by the Ducks. JF Giguere was on fire. Lundqvist is capable of that too.
Not saying it will happen, but it could happen. Kings easily have been the best team of the playoffs ... so far.
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Two words for you. Mo mentum.
Kings could easily lose it with the week long break. There's a reason they play the games. Someone brought up the '07 Sens earlier, they won all three series 4-1 up to the finals, then got schooled by the Ducks. JF Giguere was on fire. Lundqvist is capable of that too.
Not saying it will happen, but it could happen. Kings easily have been the best team of the playoffs ... so far.
Agree completely. They have to play the games. I'm basing my opinion on evidence at hand...this playoff...and I just don't believe that the Kings lose focus and lay an egg in the final round. They very well could. The winner of NY/NJ could come out and string together thier best 5 or 6 games of the season....it is possible....but in my eyes highly unlikely. I don't see the dominance and selfless...near perfect team game the Kings have played up to this point disappearing...we will know soon enough I suppose. After the other two get finished trading lackluster performances.
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Two words for you. Mo mentum.
Kings could easily lose it with the week long break. There's a reason they play the games. Someone brought up the '07 Sens earlier, they won all three series 4-1 up to the finals, then got schooled by the Ducks. JF Giguere was on fire. Lundqvist is capable of that too.
Not saying it will happen, but it could happen. Kings easily have been the best team of the playoffs ... so far.
Actually, if I recall correctly, Giguere had a sub .900 save percentage in the Finals. Ottawa was just shut down by Anaheim's defense.
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https://c15017099.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/webm/8abb8f81dc_192x144.webm
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I try not to let sports effect me the next day after a bad loss but this one stings badly. When we scored 3 goals to tie, I felt it was destiny. Now I am feeling like the end is near. Damn!
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I try not to let sports effect me the next day after a bad loss but this one stings badly. When we scored 3 goals to tie, I felt it was destiny. Now I am feeling like the end is near. Damn!
Yup, I thought this was for sure to go to it and the rangers would get it done. Man did I sink far into ny chair when they scored that 4th goal. I feel like they can win game 6 but I don't feel good about winning two in a row.
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i usually feel like shit after a loss, so naturally i'm bouncing off the walls this morning. gotta get it done on friday at home and go to the big dance.
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Dammit, I want the Rangers to win at this point just so I can see them get beat by the Kings. :p
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Rangers or Devils, no matter. I'd like to see the Kings win. Always nice to see a franchise get their first Championship.
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It's nice for Rangers fans to get a taste of what we went through earlier in the series, outplaying a team for most of the game and still coming away with the "L" :lol
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Rangers or Devils, no matter. I'd like to see the Kings win. Always nice to see a franchise get their first Championship.
Yeah, I agree with this though I would be ok it any of the 3 teams left won.
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if we make the cup final, i want kovie to score the cup clincher so the kings go apeshit.
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if we make the cup final, i want kovie to score the cup clincher so the kings go apeshit.
Kovie won't be winning a cup, let alone scoring a clincher.
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if we make the cup final, i want kovie to score the cup clincher so the kings go apeshit.
Kovie won't be winning a cup, let alone scoring a clincher.
You don't know that. As good as the Kings have been, they can be beaten.
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nick is freaking out because he guaranteed to me that devils wouldn't win with kovie, shit's getting serious for him.
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nick is freaking out because he guaranteed to me that devils wouldn't win with kovie, shit's getting serious for him.
Not freaking out, I have confidence in Flyers West.
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Hoping to not be watching the last Rangers game of the season tonight.
LETS GO RANGERS!!! :metal
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My family and our family friends were supposed to celebrate my little sisters 21st birthday by going out for a nice dinner and then having drinks at my parents house, but being that my family are big rangers fans and our friends family are big devils fans we decided we will just get the drinking on early and stay at my parents to watch the game and have food catered. :metal
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BRING ON THE KINGS BABY :metal :hat :metal :hat
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Sucks ass to lose.
Good luck to New Jersey as they take on the unbeatable Kings.
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Best finish ever, my Henrique Jersey rules.
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Garbage goals win games. its a proven fact. LETS GO DEVILS! 2012 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS! I CAN FEEL IT :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
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Garbage goals win games. its a proven fact. LETS GO DEVILS! 2012 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS! I CAN FEEL IT :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
The sting won't wear off this morning. It sucks when you put your heart and soul into a sports team and they rip it out.
As hard as it is to do, I will now support the Devils as they face the Kings. I believe they will defeat the Kings.
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I'll be cheering on the Kings. It would be nice to see them win their first one.
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I'll be cheering on the Kings. It would be nice to see them win their first one.
Plus, they beat your team. Always better to say your team lost to the vernal winner ;)
I'm with you. Would like to see them pop their Stanley Cup cherry.
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I don't care about either of these teams but the Kings have been sitting too long......we in Ottawa know all about what that can do.
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https://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=632862
Hasek might be making an NHL comeback at age 47; preliminary rumors have both Detroit and Tampa Bay interested. I hope to hell Detroit stays away from him.
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Rangers out huh? The universe hates my teams.
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I'll be cheering on the Kings. It would be nice to see them win their first one.
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I can't wait to watch the Rangers upset the Kings as it was predicted they could... oh wait... :p
Can't wait for the finals, I'll be rooting for the Kings to take home their first as well, lots of players on their team I love and want to see win.
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Rangers suck, flyers west swallow.
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Flyers West is going to do what needs to be done for my prediction to come true.
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Flyers West is going to do what needs to be done for my prediction to come true.
The Flyers suck. Their is no Flyers west. Just the Flyers, and they got beat by the team that beat the Rangers, and the team that will win the cup.
The Rangers need for offensive fire power. They will be back in a position to win again next year. Kreider will supply some extra punch next year, as that kid is going to be awesome.
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In all likelihood, Nicklas Lidstrom will announce his retirement from the NHL tomorrow at 11am.
https://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=633272
If that's the case, it's the end of a truly remarkable and amazing career for one of the best defensemen to play the game. Thanks for all the years of amazing play, Nick!
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I'm waiting for Nick to do the Post Mortem on the Rangers...
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The Kings win again. Shocking. The Devils might get one or two games, but there is no stopping LA at this point.
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If that's the case, it's the end of a truly remarkable and amazing career for one of the best defensemen to play the game. Thanks for all the years of amazing play, Nick!
Yes. One of the rare Swedish players I like. I blame Saku Koivu's composite stick for the defeat in Olympic games final 2006, not Lidström. Wooden sticks are the best!
Kings won :smiley:!
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I'm waiting for Nick to do the Post Mortem on the Rangers...
and what is his team doing these days?
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rough loss, could have stolen that one. oh well, on to the next game. we are making a tradition of losing the first game now. they literally just stood around watching what the kings will do for 40 minutes, then decided to play. too little too late, hope they have it figured out (looked like they figured it out in the third and ot minus the defensive fuck up)
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How do you give up a breakaway in OT? Piss poor defensive breakdown.
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I'm waiting for Nick to do the Post Mortem on the Rangers...
and what is his team doing these days?
Same thing the Rangers are doing, sitting at home without a cup. And, like the Flyers, I think the Rangers have a lot to look forward to next year.
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So I was watching the game last night and on the nub of Broduer's stick "LA 1" was written in black on the tape. What is that all about?
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probably LA game 1, to indicate which stick is assigned to which game. He tapes up a whole bunch and picks which one he wants to use during practice depending on how they feel.
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He keeps every stick
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Has he always done that? Does he use a different on each game? Where the hell does he keep them?
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he gives away sticks for charity, team mates etc after the season, but keeps every single one. i remember he broke two, one just shattered so he had to give it up, the other he slammed to the walls after a rags loss couple of years ago. other than that, those things are built to last.
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The Devils are making me look bad. I was and still am a firm believer they or the Rangers were going to take down the Kings. I said it repeatedly. Devils better win game 2!
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we played well and shut them down except for two mistakes that found the back of the net. we also missed 3 wide open nets in front of the goal, so i think converting those will win us games. don't worry we are good to go.
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don't worry we are good to go...
Home beaten and tired in 3-5 more games.
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he gives away sticks for charity, team mates etc after the season, but keeps every single one. i remember he broke two, one just shattered so he had to give it up, the other he slammed to the walls after a rags loss couple of years ago. other than that, those things are built to last.
Cool.
I know he had a personal dust up a few years back, but he's one of my top 5 or 6 all time favorite players.
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tim thomas considering taking a year off? wtf?
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The Devils are making me look bad. I was and still am a firm believer they or the Rangers were going to take down the Kings. I said it repeatedly. Devils better win game 2!
I don't think the Devils are making you look bad....
Good game. Too bad the ice sucked.
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Two fun moments in the game though. The first was that it looked like a devils player randomly tackled the rim (yeah he was trying to block the puck but it still looked funny) and the second was one of the guys who walked out on the ice with shoes to fix the glass almost slipped and fell... almost... damn...
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milder couple of days here in newark so the ice should be much better tomorrow night. i stopped by Hobby's to talk hockey and get breakfast, if you are ever here for a game, check out this little gem of a deli, ancient and great.
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The Devils are making me look bad. I was and still am a firm believer they or the Rangers were going to take down the Kings. I said it repeatedly. Devils better win game 2!
I don't think the Devils are making you look bad....
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YES THEY ARE!
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you still live in UWS right? do you remember that face everytime you walk past the diner and curse now? hahaha
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The Kings have made me a believer. Looks like the cup will be there's.
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hope we get what bruins and pens got, they were down 2 to start. frustrating to have the upper hand and lose.
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hope we get what bruins and pens got, they were down 2 to start. frustrating to have the upper hand and lose.
That's how I felt in game 6 against you guys at the Rock.
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If the Kings win the next one, it's over.
I hope the ice is a lot better, but I'm not counting on it.
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tim thomas considering taking a year off? wtf?
Yes. Well, Boston had a goalie situation, which made the other 29 teams drool. Thomas, who is experienced and one of the best goalies in the league and young Tuukka Rask, who would be the number one goalie in many, many NHL teams. Now it's Tuukka's chance.
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PENGUINS ACQUIRE VOKOUN FROM CAPS, SIGN HIM TO TWO-YEAR DEAL
https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=397591
Smart move.
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It was clear last year, but Vokoun is really trying to win a cup before he retires. Gotta think a guy like Doan has to entertain similar thoughts.
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Where are the "The Kings momentum won't carry over into the Finals" people now? :biggrin:
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Where are the "The Kings momentum won't carry over into the Finals" people now? :biggrin:
Quick stole two and a half games already until the wheels fell off.
Devils have outplayed the Kings for more than half of the series too, but the only thing that matters is the scoreboard.
Devils still may win a game or two, but the series is over.
Time to get ready for the draft.
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Where are the "The Kings momentum won't carry over into the Finals" people now? :biggrin:
I'm right here. I was absolutely wrong.
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yea looking bleak, but i'm proud of the level we came to after a crappy maclean experiment. hope we can build on this next year.
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I never said that for sure, just that it could happen. They're looking pretty damn strong. Comment by the CBC crew last night was that they've broken NJs spirit.
I gotta agree.
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their puck luck is off the charts, that's about it. quick makes saves he doesn't even know are there and we can't seem to get a bounce going our way, insanely frustrating to see a puck jump over the point on a 5 on 3. drove me nuts.
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their puck luck is off the charts, that's about it. quick makes saves he doesn't even know are there and we can't seem to get a bounce going our way, insanely frustrating to see a puck jump over the point on a 5 on 3. drove me nuts.
Stop bitching. Lucky or whatever, they are on the roll of all rolls. As dominant in this run as any team I've seen. The Devils need to at least win a game.
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devils in 7, let's do this!
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devils in 7, let's do this!
That's the spirit! Never give up as long as there is hope!!! DO YOU BELIEVE IN MIRACLES!?!?....YES!!!!
you aint buying this are ya? :tick2:
Seriously, I never mourn until its time. You are still alive, at least for today.
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no i'm fully on board, hence the believe sig. we started the campaign last year when we were in the last place, and went and cheered like crazy when they were sucking, then they picked up and commented on the crowd noise. they went on a 26-3 run that year and barely missed the playoffs. this year we are going to need a couple of important games but we still believe. #diablos
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I think Glenn Healey said it....right after the third goal was scored and they showed the NJ bench...."there comes a point where you realise, even at your best, you're just not good enough. This is what that looks like"
it's over
and there should be three or four Conn Smythe trophies.
Pretty sure Anze Kopitar was drafted just after Brian Lee....so was Mark Staal.
great picking Muckler...you clown. Not Brian Lee's fault.
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devils in 7, let's do this!
Seriously, I never mourn until its time. You are still alive, at least for today.
Alive, yes, but on life support.
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Kinda like the Kings last series, a terrible call leading to that goal, but the series was over either way.
My only hope is that, be it in the 3rd or overtime, Kovy has his 200th giveaway of the series that leads to the GWG.
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One down, one to go, another town and one more show.......
.....and these are the best refs the NHL can offer?
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Still alive and kicking :metal
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Yeah, but it's only a matter of time.
Good game, finally the Kings lost one where they were out-played
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At least the Devils won a game. A sweep would have sucked. I want to see Jersey win game 5 and put a scare into the Kings. It could happen.
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finally the puck luck is on our side, hope we can ride this on saturday and we'll see from there on.
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finally the puck luck is on our side, hope we can ride this on saturday and we'll see from there on.
Good luck! I hope the Devils pull off a miracle comeback.
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I'm rootin' for Kings on this one, it would fun to see them win Stanley.
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this is why we are in the finals, smartest coach ever:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7237/7347033942_a5216af12d_o.gif)
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:rollin.
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this is why we are in the finals, smartest coach ever:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7237/7347033942_a5216af12d_o.gif)
:biggrin: :metal
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Epic. Was watching her all night long when they panned to the NJ bench.
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I had to rewind to show Adam since he wasn't paying attention lol
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Man, it sucks that a team winning its first cup won't even be able to do it in front of their own fans. Kings are unbeaten on the road and will remain so. The cup is delivered on Saturday night.
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And I will likely miss it, if it happens, because one of my best friends is getting married and I'm a groomsman.
Priorities! :biggrin:
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I'd tape it with plenty of time after, if not for the game then to just watch the festivities afterwards.
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Yeah, DVR is my friend.
On another note, am I alone in hating the shit out of Pierre McGuire? I think he is one of the worst analysts in hockey; opinionated, assholish, conceited and rarely offers much value to any discussion.
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Man, it sucks that a team winning its first cup won't even be able to do it in front of their own fans. Kings are unbeaten on the road and will remain so. The cup is delivered on Saturday night.
Awesome! cause if its not I get to quote this post, highlight the last line, and make fun of it! :biggrin:
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Yeah, DVR is my friend.
On another note, am I alone in hating the shit out of Pierre McGuire? I think he is one of the worst analysts in hockey; opinionated, assholish, conceited and rarely offers much value to any discussion.
I have always hated him with a passion.
Man, it sucks that a team winning its first cup won't even be able to do it in front of their own fans. Kings are unbeaten on the road and will remain so. The cup is delivered on Saturday night.
Awesome! cause if its not I get to quote this post, highlight the last line, and make fun of it! :biggrin:
All good, even if I'm wrong on this the season will still end with the Kings taking home a cup, and since I've been picking them to win series since they toppled Vancouver, I'll feel pretty good still. :p
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In somewhat bizarre hockey-related news, apparently Luka Magnotta posted on HFBoards and made hockey tribute videos. (https://deadspin.com/5915808/the-porn-actor-who-dismembered-his-lover-and-mailed-body-parts-to-politicians-he-made-this-sergei-fedorov-tribute-video)
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I have always hated him with a passion.
He brings nothing of value to the conversation, makes opinionated and often ridiculous judgments on players and teams, asks inane questions while interviewing, giggles during every hockey game at least once and basically while "Inside the Glass" simply throws questions at Eddie Olczyck, whom I like, and lets him carry all the analysis.
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I just saw a ridiculous article earlier linking his 7 hours a day of WoW gameplay to his crimes, wonder if now they'll let us all know how hockey contributed. ::)
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I have always hated him with a passion.
He brings nothing of value to the conversation, makes opinionated and often ridiculous judgments on players and teams, asks inane questions while interviewing, giggles during every hockey game at least once and basically while "Inside the Glass" simply throws questions at Eddie Olczyck, whom I like, and lets him carry all the analysis.
Pretty much. I can't go through a broadcast without wanting to punch Pierre once or twice.
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Also, that stupid "move your hands in the direction of the bench your talking about while, in a continuing sweeping motion, swing back to the other team" gesture that uses every time they zoom in for an Inside the Glass moment makes me want to beat his shiny bald head in.
So much hatred....
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Yeah, DVR is my friend.
On another note, am I alone in hating the shit out of Pierre McGuire? I think he is one of the worst analysts in hockey; opinionated, assholish, conceited and rarely offers much value to any discussion.
I have always hated him with a passion.
Man, it sucks that a team winning its first cup won't even be able to do it in front of their own fans. Kings are unbeaten on the road and will remain so. The cup is delivered on Saturday night.
Awesome! cause if its not I get to quote this post, highlight the last line, and make fun of it! :biggrin:
All good, even if I'm wrong on this the season will still end with the Kings taking home a cup, and since I've been picking them to win series since they toppled Vancouver, I'll feel pretty good still. :p
More bulliten board material in case the Devils pull the miracle comeback! :tick2:
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That's one export I'm glad TSN made to NBC. He's as usefull as tits on a bull.
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I liked the part yesterday when they focused on McGuire and Jeremy Roenick in regards to pre-game responses to elimination games and Pierre speaks directly to JR about how it was as a coach for the Penguins when he was up 3-0 against JR and the Blackhawks....and JR had to respond in a way that wasn't filled with vitriol and venom as he recounted the series where his team was defeated. I could feel the smugness practically oozing from McGuire while he talked. I swear, all he needs is a tattoo of an oblong black dot on the top of his head and he'd all but be a penis that walks like a man.
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Andrew, you're like the opposite of the incredible hulk, because I'm fucking loving it when you're angry. :lol
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this is great, down goes brown
(https://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1169660/eatice.gif)
tallinder pays off in the first game he comes back from a frickin blood cloth.
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Guess that makes me one of the few who like McGuire. He doesn't dumb anything down or sugar coat anything though I'll admit his interview questions are pretty annoying.
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Andrew, you're like the opposite of the incredible hulk, because I'm fucking loving it when you're angry. :lol
HAH!
ANTIHULK USE CIRCUMLOCUTION AND HISTRIONICS TO MAKE ANTIHULK SEEM SMARTER AND MORE ENTERTAINING THAN ANTIHULK IS!
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Guess that makes me one of the few who like McGuire. He doesn't dumb anything down or sugar coat anything though I'll admit his interview questions are pretty annoying.
I'll just leave this here...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i5zXLZHGI4&t=1m40s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i5zXLZHGI4&t=1m40s)
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God, what a tool.
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I can't stand Pierre McGuire or Mike Milbury. They're both complete tools.
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^ Same. Especially McGuire. Worst person in hockey analyst history.
Anyways, we have dubbed this the Cupcatcher:
(https://i.imgur.com/klbpA.jpg)
Got it off a guy who sits by a curb near a bridge not far from my house who sells dream catchers. Said this was his first hockey one and since he was a Habs fan he made this. We got it for $35.
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I can't stand Pierre McGuire or Mike Milbury. They're both complete tools.
Milbury is a bitter, half-baked has been who failed as a GM and a coach and now makes a living talking about how players who are better than he ever was aren't doing what they should.
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the only difference is milbury is far more likely to be KOd by Roenick than Pierre getting drilled by a stray puck.
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Also, I really miss Gary Thorne and Bill Clement calling games. I know a lot of people hated Gary Thorne's style of yelling but to me, it added a level of intensity to watching the broadcast that I loved. That and there was something about "SCOOOOORE!!!" followed by whatever the live crowd/on-ice reaction/goal horn sound there was that just felt like a huge exclamation point. Plus, the two of them seemed to have a great on-air chemistry.
I don't mind Mike Emrick, but he often calls the action in such a way that I feel like I'm watching a horse race, not a hockey game.
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i love doc, i just can't stand the support cast.
in other news, devils apparently are in agreement with an ontario based group to become the minority owners to take care of the debt. i guess we won't have any obstacles to sign parise anymore, unless he wants a number lou doesn't want to match.
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Doc is cool, don't get me wrong, but I'm just partial to Gary's habits. I like his voice better.
I don't mind Eddie Olczyck or Brian Engblom or Darren Pang (though Engblom and Pang are secondary analysts) but McGuire, Milbury, Keith Jones and JR bug the fuck out of me. I've never heard analysts stammer during intermission play breakdowns the way JR and Milbury do.
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Thorne was great, but Emrick is the best.
I loved this tweet from Michelle Beadle back in April:
I'm positive that Doc Emrick doing play by play of the making of a peanut butter and banana sandwich would be amazing.
:lol
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I do admire Emrick's ability to string together incredibly long, intricate patterns of words, and creative words at that, without losing his voice or getting tongue-tied.
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i love doc's random sayings like 'he kniiiiiiives'
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Doc is my second least favourite announcer. Rick Jeanneret is by far my least favourite though.
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Too bad our US fellowship will never know the joy of Bob Cole/Harry Neal. Hughson/Simpson is a close second.
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Too bad our US fellowship will never know the joy of Bob Cole/Harry Neal. Hughson/Simpson is a close second.
I've heard them. They are good. Doc kills me. He's like an announcer from the 20's and 30's .He should have a fedora with that little ticket sticking out that says "Reporter". That's how I always envision him because of the way he enunciates like a gangster from the 20's and 30's. :lol
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Announcers....Sam Rosen is a hockey god! :metal
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Guess that makes me one of the few who like McGuire. He doesn't dumb anything down or sugar coat anything though I'll admit his interview questions are pretty annoying.
I'll just leave this here...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i5zXLZHGI4&t=1m40s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i5zXLZHGI4&t=1m40s)
Apparently, this is a cottage industry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxkImZhylkQ&feature=related
Believe it or not, I like Milbury too and Emerick.
Could do without everyone else. Sick of Gary Thorne, Roenick, Pang, Engblom, Eddie O....Clement's awesome though.
After experiencing the Canadian broadcasts, I'm forever spoiled.
Oh, and that Cupcatcher is awesome!
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One more win and we are beasts.
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Kings easily played the better game, but a bad play by Quick and great execution by Parise. Sad to see the Kings lose their road streak (and my prediction busted), but at least they have another shot at bringing it home in front of their fans.
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That's just sad nick.
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It's about time LA lost a game where they supposedly outplayed their opponent; I have grown tired of seeing them get outplayed and then get a lucky bounce and steal a win. Now the deflections aren't going their way. I am happy they lost their undefeated road streak, and I would love to see the Devils come back and steal the Cup from them. Yes, I am still bitter about the 2nd round sweep. >:( >:( >:(
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Kings are unbeaten on the road and will remain so. The cup is delivered on Saturday night.
(https://intenttoblow.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/TheGoon.jpg)
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It's about time LA lost a game where they supposedly outplayed their opponent; I have grown tired of seeing them get outplayed and then get a lucky bounce and steal a win. Now the deflections aren't going their way. I am happy they lost their undefeated road streak, and I would love to see the Devils come back and steal the Cup from them. Yes, I am still bitter about the 2nd round sweep. >:( >:( >:(
That's the new NHL where everybody has a chance to win and games are decided by luck, bad ice and bad officiating. I can only wonder what the lockout will bring.
One shift at a time boys....
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Its almost time for Nick to show up to tell us all how the Kings win the cup in front of there home fans tonight!
:tick2:
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Devils ------------> (https://www.therushforum.com/html/emoticons/smhockey4.gif)
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Devils finally on the board at the end of the 2nd, but the puck has been at their own end most of the night. Looks like it's over.
-J
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That's just sad nick.
Kinda like the play of the Devils. :D
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Congrats to la, great series, the ref fucked us but they played to win. There is always next year.
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I will say that after the Florida series, the Devils plays fantastic, but the Kings were not to be stopped and played even better.
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I tip my hat to the Kings, they were the better team over the last six games. It was a great run for us though, I look forward to us being back next season (with Parise still in the red and black).
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Way to go, Kings! And now, I must wait for another season to see if my Leafs will get...well...anywhere.
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Although none of my top teams won or even made it to the final I am happy for the Kings, I enjoyed watching them win this after barely making it to Stanley in the first place.
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I will say that after the Florida series, the Devils plays fantastic, but the Kings were not to be stopped and played even better.
Agreed. I felt myself rooting for the Devils, but it was a great celebration for the Kings. A very likeable team.
Congrats Kings!
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Congrats to the Kings. What a dominant playoff run they had, and thus, they have the prize.
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A very likeable team.
Very true. That coupled with the fact they had never won the cup, made them an easy team to pull for.
Congrats King's.
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Also first 8th seed to win the Cup.
I was just rooting for whichever team was playing at home.
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Damn I forgot the Kings were the 8th seed!!
Congrats to the Kings and their fans.
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The Kings, Giants and Cardinals of this past sports season and the Mavericks of the last sports season before it are proof that sometimes all you need to do is get into the tournament. Congrats Kings.
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Also first 8th seed to win the Cup.
I was just rooting for whichever team was playing at home.
How many 8 seeds have played for the cup? I remember the Hurricanes going to the finals as the 8.
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Also first 8th seed to win the Cup.
I was just rooting for whichever team was playing at home.
How many 8 seeds have played for the cup? I remember the Hurricanes going to the finals as the 8.
I think you're remembering the Oilers who were the 8th seed when they played Carolina in '06.
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Damn I forgot the Kings were the 8th seed!!
Which is one of the reasons I wanted the Rangers to win. If that had happened, the Kings would have beaten the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 1st seeds, which would have not only been a first, but the absolute toughest (by the numbers) setup any team could possibly face in the playoffs.