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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: tjanuranus on June 04, 2011, 07:15:19 PM
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https://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/06/03/anonymous-claims-control-of-iranian-govt-servers/
https://youtu.be/9WzCetIiWcw
Anonymous claims control of Iranian gov’t servers
Hackers claiming to be part of protest group "Anonymous" published on Friday over 10,000 internal emails from the Iranian government's ministry of foreign affairs, as part of an ongoing campaign against the authoritarian regime.
The emails were published to torrent file sharing website The Pirate Bay, along with usernames and passwords. Members also claimed they had taken control of the government's servers.
In a chat with Raw Story, members of Anonymous on the #OpIran server said they were leading the charge because they want Iranians to know they're not alone in their struggle against the regime of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
They also pointed to a declaration of intent to attack the Iranian government, which they published to YouTube in February.
Apart from the Iranian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the hackers said they were targeting servers containing information about the Kahrizak detention center in Iran, a notorious site human rights campaigners have raised alarms about for years.
The group also claimed it had hacked servers belonging to the government in Dubai, obtaining about 100 account logins.
Anonymous is reportedly planning another cyber attack on the Iranian government to coincide with the election's anniversary.
The Iranian Ministry of Foreign Affairs website was still offline at time of this writing.
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That's pretty crazy!
But I thought Anonymous denied being responsible for the PSN hack?
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That's pretty crazy!
But I thought Anonymous denied being responsible for the PSN hack?
They put out videos talking about why they did it, well i saw them back in april. All about Sony's decision to sue geohot.
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There's another group aptly named "lulzsec" which has still been attacking Sony, as well as PBS and now Nintendo.
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https://youtu.be/oYBPBeM7gZ8
here they say they did it but stopped attacking PSN after a while because of the customers.
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Ah ok, must have been a really early report I read that claimed it wasn't them.
Never mind, carry on.
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Not sure if this is a good thing or bad thing...
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Not sure if this is a good thing or bad thing...
It's really a question of whether the ends justify the means. In this case, I agree with you. It's a bit of a gray area.
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Oh shit. This is pretty intense.
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Oh shit. This is pretty intense.
You said it
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Cool. Internet terrorism. These guys are some real bad asses.
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Not sure if this is a good thing or bad thing...
It's really a question of whether the ends justify the means. In this case, I agree with you. It's a bit of a gray area.
are you justified.... take life to save life...
wait.
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lolDreamTheater.
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Yawn. Wake me up when they start cyber bullying Achmedinawhatever.
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Oh anon.... :T
I lol'd pretty hard when they took psn down and this is damned funny too, but not the first government they've attacked, if I'm not mistaken.
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Anonymous scares me. Accepting the idea of proportionalism for your actions still doesn't make them morally just. I would much rather take Wikileaks over cyberterrorists.
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ter·ror·ism
[ter-uh-riz-uhm] Show IPA
–noun
1.
the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.
2.
the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization.
3.
a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government.
1. there was no use of violence.
2. therefore, although they were resisting a government, the hax did it in a non-violent way. terrorism? no.
"terrorism", by proper definition perhaps. but what you nublets fail to recognize is that in this particular sense, this "terrorism" is actually helping the general welfare of the people. therefore, in my opinion - and informally, i wouldn't classify it as terrorism.
it's just a bunch of hackers actually doing good, for once. iran is basically a crappy government that doesn't give a shite about it's people, yet when hax actually stand against it...it get's labeled as terrorism. totally not cool.
edit
source - https://dictionary.reference.com/browse/terrorism
totalitarian changed to something more formal.
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Ricky, a bunch of terrorists claim to be helping the general populace, that is not a deciding factor in anything.
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sup nick.
edit - just wanted to say that i was describing this particular incident. in no way do i condone what them, i just don't know enough about who they are.
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sup nick.
anyways, the definition of terrorist as i represented in my previous post is pretty difficult to decipher. when we can agree as to what a "terrorist" is, i guess it will be easier to debate. i just don't see how hax standing against a government that, for the most part, doesn't care about it's people is a bad thing.
:corn
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sup nick.
anyways, the definition of terrorist as i represented in my previous post is pretty difficult to decipher. when we can agree as to what a "terrorist" is, i guess it will be easier to debate. i just don't see how hax standing against a government that, for the most part, doesn't care about it's people is a bad thing.
It's the equivalent of poking a lion with a stick.
Not a clever thing to do.
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Ricky, a bunch of terrorists claim to be helping the general populace, that is not a deciding factor in anything.
One person's terrorists are another's freedom fighters.
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If fire fighters fight fire, and crime fighters fight crime, what do freedom fighters fight?
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freedom, eh?
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Its still debated whether or not Anonymous had anything to do with the PSN outage. Obviously a youtube video of someone claiming to be representing anonymous can't be taken as 100% proof, since they are, well, anonymous. Extra Credits did a great video on the subject a couple days ago: https://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/extra-credits/3350-Anonymous
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anonymous -- a couple of people doing stuff as a whole brigade of idiots refreshes a page and clings to the false feeling that they had anything to do with anything (while reveling in their freedom to be bigoted while claiming its all in fun).
I admit I thought the fake threats of a Swedish school shooting that became actual news was hilarious at first, but at least I didn't think I had something to do with it just because I was there for it. geez
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If vegetarians eat vegetables, what do humanitarians eat? :o
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why do we drive on a parkway and park on a driveway?
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vegetarians = people
humanitarians = people
QED: humanitarians eat vegetables, because they are vegetarians.
Is that right?
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sup nick.
anyways, the definition of terrorist as i represented in my previous post is pretty difficult to decipher. when we can agree as to what a "terrorist" is, i guess it will be easier to debate. i just don't see how hax standing against a government that, for the most part, doesn't care about it's people is a bad thing.
It's the equivalent of poking a lion with a stick.
Not a clever thing to do.
But when the lion is on the other side of the ocean and the stick is 12.000 km long it is pretty clever.
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If con is the opposite of pro, what's the opposite of progress?
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If con is the opposite of pro, what's the opposite of progress?
Regression.
nuggets
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sup nick.
anyways, the definition of terrorist as i represented in my previous post is pretty difficult to decipher. when we can agree as to what a "terrorist" is, i guess it will be easier to debate. i just don't see how hax standing against a government that, for the most part, doesn't care about it's people is a bad thing.
How can they be terrorists if they're not Muslim. Non-sequitur.
Anyhoo, some random thoughts:
It's an interesting commentary that they can totally screw with a foreign government but have been consistently made the fool by some silly cult.
If true, it's almost certain that a few people will be hanged over this. I guess as long they're not pretty white girls we shouldn't mind.
The front page of the Tehran Times says something to the effect of "heroic defense agents thwart cyber-attack by US intelligence services".
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anonymous -- a couple of people doing stuff as a whole brigade of idiots refreshes a page and clings to the false feeling that they had anything to do with anything (while reveling in their freedom to be bigoted while claiming its all in fun).
I don't see anyone else taking a stand against Visa/Mastercard/Paypal's utter bullshit against Wikileaks.
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anonymous -- a couple of people doing stuff as a whole brigade of idiots refreshes a page and clings to the false feeling that they had anything to do with anything (while reveling in their freedom to be bigoted while claiming its all in fun).
I don't see anyone else taking a stand against Visa/Mastercard/Paypal's utter bullshit against Wikileaks.
What do you mean? I don't follow this stuff at all but I'm curious.
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Props to Anon for the good intentions, even if they will probably be for naught.
That's pretty crazy!
But I thought Anonymous denied being responsible for the PSN hack?
Pretty much anyone can associate themselves without Anonymous. If someone claims to be a part of Anon, they are a part of Anon.
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Pretty much anyone can associate themselves without Anonymous. If someone claims to be a part of Anon, they are a part of Anon.
I don't think it works like that.
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You guys should check out the emails, they're fantastic.
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anonymous -- a couple of people doing stuff as a whole brigade of idiots refreshes a page and clings to the false feeling that they had anything to do with anything (while reveling in their freedom to be bigoted while claiming its all in fun).
I don't see anyone else taking a stand against Visa/Mastercard/Paypal's utter bullshit against Wikileaks.
That doesn't change the fact that what she said is still completely true. Anon has always been been ten people actually doing work and ten thousand more standing on the sidelines chanting 'hurr we are legion!'
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I've always wondered how many people are actually involved in Anon's activity - the stuff that makes news. I'd bet it's more than 10, but less than 40. Somewhere in that ballpark.
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Nintendo was Hacked also.
https://wii.ign.com/articles/117/1172894p1.html#disqus_thread
They dont know who it was, but theres a suspicion in the back of my mind...
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https://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/110667-Nintendo-Admits-It-Was-Hacked-but-Says-Users-Are-Safe
Nintendo spokesperson Ken Toyoda announced the attack over the weekend, but said that there had been no "third-party victims." The attack was seemingly the work of hacker group "LulzSec," which recently attacked the Sony and PBS websites. According to the group's Twitter feed, it only grabbed a server config file as a warm up for other "operations." The group stressed that it wasn't targeting Nintendo for more attacks, saying that it loved the N64 too much and the intrusion was just a bit of fun. LulzSec said that it didn't mean any harm, and that Nintendo had already fixed the vulnerability.
It's hard to tell whether it was good security or just Lulzsec's nostalgia that protected Nintendo from a much more serious intrusion, but whatever the reason, it sounds like the company was quick to react to the attack. All the same, it's a little troubling that LulzSec was able to grab files from Nintendo's servers and write it off as effectively nothing more than a prank.