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Title: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: weeping-icon on May 25, 2011, 08:22:50 AM
1. Under A Glass Moon
2. These Walls
3. Forsaken
4. Endless Sacrifice
Drum Solo
5. Ytse Jam
6. Peruvian Skies
7. The Great Debate
8. On the Backs of Angels
9. Caught In A Web
10. Through My Words
11. Fatal Tragedy
12. The Count of Tuscany
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13. Learning to Live


Am I right in saying that the gig in Rome on 4/7/11 will be Mike Mangini's first gig? Anyone attending? I know I am  :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: hefdaddy42 on May 25, 2011, 09:55:03 AM
Yes, that is the first Mangini gig.

No, I'm not going.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on May 25, 2011, 11:58:43 AM
There is some chance I might attend the show. Are you Italian, weeping-icon?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: weeping-icon on May 26, 2011, 03:37:00 AM
I'm actually from Malta (close) but live in Prague, CZ. I'm visiting my Maltese, DT loving friend who lives in Rome and we're going to the gig together. I'm also a bit of an 'Anathema' fan so even better  ;D
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Xanthul on May 26, 2011, 03:40:10 AM
I'm going to Rome from the 2nd to the 9th... of June :( damn
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 03, 2011, 10:34:15 AM
It tomorrow!!! First Dream Theater show with Manigini on board, I'm very curious about setlist!!! I will not be there, because I will be in my country waiting for my turn (28th July  :metal :metal :metal :metal), but I'll be with there with my spirit!!!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on July 03, 2011, 11:06:58 AM
The excitement is growing! Too bad that I will not be there...

But don't worry, I'll translate the first reviews of the show and then post them here!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 03, 2011, 12:01:22 PM
Great!!!! I'm looking forward to it!!!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: RoeDent on July 04, 2011, 04:35:42 AM
Happy Concert Day, folks! Hope everyone who's going has an awesome time!  :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 05:05:35 AM
6 hours only!! I bet that Mangini repeats now : "This is aw-ful, this is aw-ful"  ;D
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Zydar on July 04, 2011, 05:07:33 AM
I'm expecting some cool clips on YouTube from this :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 05:12:53 AM
I'm expecting some cool clips on YouTube from this :metal
Yeah, it's got to be!!! The opening, I want to see the opening moments of the show for sure...
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on July 04, 2011, 08:21:44 AM
So, the opener will be Metropolis, PMU, OTBOA, ANTR or something else? Whaddayathink? :corn
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Millais on July 04, 2011, 08:23:29 AM
I'm expecting some cool clips on YouTube from this :metal

hopefully some will appear! as the person above me said - the opening, the opening! couldn't care too much about videos of the songs but just want to see the opening .... and then hear about the setlist :) ;D
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Zydar on July 04, 2011, 08:24:57 AM
Here's a long shot for an opener: Caught In A Web. I don't know if they've ever opened with that, but I'm just throwing it out there :P
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: jonny108 on July 04, 2011, 08:30:57 AM
How long till the show starts?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Blackfield on July 04, 2011, 08:39:18 AM
2 hours and 20 minutes until the show starts. There are two bands opening though if I got the facts straigh, Gamma Ray and Anathema.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on July 04, 2011, 08:55:15 AM
How long till the show starts?

DT should start their show at 21.45, which means about five hours from now

Here's a long shot for an opener: Caught In A Web. I don't know if they've ever opened with that, but I'm just throwing it out there :P

Well, I am quite sure that Caught will be played, but as the opener? I don't really know, it doesn't seem fit to me...
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 08:59:59 AM
Yeah, Caught In A Web would be a nice surprise, but I think it will be Pull Mu Under anyway ;) 17:00 !! 2 hours to go with Anathema, 4:45 and Dream Theater cames in!!! :metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: cyberdrummer on July 04, 2011, 09:21:35 AM
I think Metropolis to open.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: jonny108 on July 04, 2011, 09:29:20 AM
I think On the Backs of Angels to open....just got a feeling it will be  :)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Addy on July 04, 2011, 09:32:03 AM
I think On the Backs of Angels to open....just got a feeling it will be  :)

Same here. I dunno why, but I also have a feeling this is the song that will open the show.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: cyberdrummer on July 04, 2011, 09:32:36 AM
I think it might be a bit much to open with a new song when the album hasn't even been released. But we shall see...
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tri.ad on July 04, 2011, 09:33:55 AM
As I said before: Pull Me Under would be nice and fitting, but 6:00 would be absolutely killer. Let's see how it turns out.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: nobloodyname on July 04, 2011, 10:00:07 AM
Leaving for the show shortly, will be updating the setlist on FB while it happens, hopefully.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: jonny108 on July 04, 2011, 10:02:49 AM
Post it here!! :D or link us to your facebook  :lol
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: ResultsMayVary on July 04, 2011, 10:08:45 AM
Post it here!! :D or link us to your facebook  :lol
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on July 04, 2011, 10:29:01 AM
Some bad news: the wheather is quite unstable in Rome. Take notice that in central/southern Italy it rains roughly once in a summer. We can only prey and touch iron  :biggrin:
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: jonny108 on July 04, 2011, 10:33:45 AM
Some bad news: the wheather is quite unstable in Rome. Take notice that in central/southern Italy it rains roughly once in a summer. We can only prey and touch iron  :biggrin:

Are they playing outside? EDIT Yep!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on July 04, 2011, 10:40:41 AM
Some bad news: the wheather is quite unstable in Rome. Take notice that in central/southern Italy it rains roughly once in a summer. We can only prey and touch iron  :biggrin:

Are they playing outside? EDIT Yep!

They are indeed.

(https://www.goinrome.com/mycontent/data/8151-rock-in-roma.JPG)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 10:50:14 AM
Jeeeee, my excitement is so high !!!! :metal :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: cyberdrummer on July 04, 2011, 11:07:17 AM
Fear not, I'll be relaying NBN's Facebook updates to the main setlists thread.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 11:08:18 AM
Fear not, I'll be relaying NBN's Facebook updates to the main setlists thread.
:tup Great!!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: jonny108 on July 04, 2011, 11:08:33 AM
Fear not, I'll be relaying NBN's Facebook updates to the main setlists thread.

Thanks!!!! Appreciate it :metal  I'm guessing Anathema have just started  :)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: ResultsMayVary on July 04, 2011, 11:37:10 AM
Some bad news: the wheather is quite unstable in Rome. Take notice that in central/southern Italy it rains roughly once in a summer. We can only prey and touch iron  :biggrin:

Are they playing outside? EDIT Yep!

They are indeed.

*snip*


That is an awesome picture. I love the way that area is set up.  :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tgstk2 on July 04, 2011, 12:24:58 PM
in case anyone wants to add / share there thoughts about the performance tonight.. I thought I'd make a thread up front...

so what was the setlist
how did they perform
where the all happy
what whas the crowds repsond to mm
how was it to see mm play old dt stuff?

and..at what time will they play today?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 12:29:38 PM
Show has started at 19pm eet.
Support Anathema-Gamma Ray
21:45 DREAM THEATER!!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: taboune on July 04, 2011, 12:39:08 PM
Youtube all night refreshhhhhhhhh

cant wait!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 12:46:08 PM
1 hour...and the crowd goes crazy ;) :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tjanuranus on July 04, 2011, 01:16:33 PM
half hour they go on right?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on July 04, 2011, 01:20:30 PM
half hour they go on right?

Yeah! 25 minutes now! Check the Tout thread in the other section for some live information!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on July 04, 2011, 01:40:49 PM
Five fucking minutes to go.

Have a nice one, guys! Bring it on!!!  :yarr
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 01:46:13 PM
21:45!!!!!
Pull Me Under??  ::) OTBOA??? I want to be there!!!!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: cyberdrummer on July 04, 2011, 01:47:07 PM
"Here we go".

Stay tuned!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: cyberdrummer on July 04, 2011, 01:48:19 PM
Updates starting now in the main setlist thread!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: ResultsMayVary on July 04, 2011, 01:48:39 PM
"Here we go".

Stay tuned!
Awaiting the setlist!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tri.ad on July 04, 2011, 01:48:48 PM
:caffeine:
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: cyberdrummer on July 04, 2011, 01:49:23 PM
1. Under A Glass Moon
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tri.ad on July 04, 2011, 01:49:40 PM
Whoa, that's a surprise.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: DarkEternalNight on July 04, 2011, 01:50:17 PM
I have a feeling that would work great. Nice surprise.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: cyberdrummer on July 04, 2011, 01:50:28 PM
I can imagine that'd be a great opener actually.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Infinite Cactus on July 04, 2011, 01:50:51 PM
Awesome, a very iconic drum part. Incredibly awesome surprise
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Scooterfruit on July 04, 2011, 01:50:59 PM
So excited! Glass Moon? Awesome!!!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tri.ad on July 04, 2011, 01:51:31 PM
It definitely provides a statement for JP and JLB, who both have great moments in this song.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Zydar on July 04, 2011, 01:51:40 PM
Sweet!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: cyberdrummer on July 04, 2011, 01:52:31 PM
I had a feeling they'd open with something from I&W.

"big cheer for MM on video"
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on July 04, 2011, 01:53:52 PM
Glass Moon! Awesome choice. It's a bit unexpected, yet is not a first timer! UAGM opened most of the DT shows in June-December 95.

Anyway, they chose a very challanging song for James, as a matter of fact which it had not been played since the Octavarium Tour!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: nikatapi on July 04, 2011, 01:54:38 PM
Great opening track! I really hope JLB gives an awesome performance, this song is tough.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: ThatGuitarGuy on July 04, 2011, 01:55:55 PM
I take it there isn't any video out there streaming the event?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Scooterfruit on July 04, 2011, 01:56:32 PM
I put on my iTunes and am listening to the tracks as they are revealed. Please tell me I'm not the only loser here....
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: cyberdrummer on July 04, 2011, 01:56:43 PM
I'm doing exactly the same thing!  :lol
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: nikatapi on July 04, 2011, 01:57:05 PM
I put on my iTunes and am listening to the tracks as they are revealed. Please tell me I'm not the only loser here....

Dont worry, you're not.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: DarkEternalNight on July 04, 2011, 01:57:36 PM
I'm doing the same  :lol
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tri.ad on July 04, 2011, 01:57:40 PM
I put on my iTunes and am listening to the tracks as they are revealed. Please tell me I'm not the only loser here....

I'm listening to them on Quick Time. I suppose that's even worse.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: cyberdrummer on July 04, 2011, 01:57:45 PM
1. Under A Glass Moon
2. These Walls
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: DarkEternalNight on July 04, 2011, 01:58:17 PM
This is looking like a damn good setlist.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tri.ad on July 04, 2011, 01:58:22 PM
YES!!!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: aurorablind on July 04, 2011, 01:58:30 PM
Sweet!  :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: ResultsMayVary on July 04, 2011, 01:58:46 PM
Holy shit!  :metal

So good already!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Scooterfruit on July 04, 2011, 01:59:20 PM
Awesome. Just Awesome.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Zydar on July 04, 2011, 01:59:42 PM
I'm doing the same  :lol

Same here!

Oh, These Walls. Nice.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on July 04, 2011, 02:00:19 PM
1. Under A Glass Moon
2. These Walls

@cyber, there is some conflict. My source says "The Answer Lies Within". Could you demand confirmation of These Walls?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Infinite Cactus on July 04, 2011, 02:00:19 PM
2. These Walls

Awesome
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Adami on July 04, 2011, 02:02:39 PM
1. Under A Glass Moon
2. These Walls

@cyber, there is some conflict. My source says "The Answer Lies Within". Could you demand confirmation of These Walls?

While a confirmation would be nice, TALW seems like an awful choice.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: cyberdrummer on July 04, 2011, 02:02:54 PM
1. Under A Glass Moon
2. These Walls

@cyber, there is some conflict. My source says "The Answer Lies Within". Could you demand confirmation of These Walls?

I'll try. These Walls does seem more likely as the second song though.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 02:03:12 PM
Wow!!! I didn't expext These Walls!!!
Under A Glass Moon is a great opener!!! :metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Zydar on July 04, 2011, 02:03:15 PM
I would be very surprised if they put a ballad as 2nd song of the evening.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on July 04, 2011, 02:03:40 PM
Here's what my source says:

Quote
Ed aprono con....Under a glass moon!! Mangini mostruoso e JLB n grande forma, come ai tempi dell'I&W tour... seconda The answer lies within

---

they open with... UAGM. Mangini is scary and JLB is in top shape, like in the IAW era (seems a bit exaggerated, but I trust his judgement). Than, The Answers Lies Within
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: cyberdrummer on July 04, 2011, 02:04:10 PM
And the person updating for me on FB is a massive DT fan (he flew to NYC for RCMH) - I don't think he'd get it wrong.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Knguro on July 04, 2011, 02:04:17 PM
Any updates yet?!? Pics? No?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: cyberdrummer on July 04, 2011, 02:04:51 PM
1. Under A Glass Moon
2. These Walls
3. Forsaken
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 02:05:19 PM
So, TALW?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tri.ad on July 04, 2011, 02:05:51 PM
Meh... Not too fond of Forsaken. But it doesn't lessen the first two songs.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Scooterfruit on July 04, 2011, 02:06:43 PM
Not my favourite tune but I did witness it live (Chaos in Motion Dvd in Vancouver) and it was really really great live.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Plasmastrike on July 04, 2011, 02:07:09 PM
Wow, didn't realize their first show is today/tonight.

Any updates are welcome :)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: chaotic_ripper on July 04, 2011, 02:07:17 PM
anyone know how long the set is supposed to be?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Jamesman42 on July 04, 2011, 02:07:29 PM
Dang, Anathema will be there. I've heard a few songs by them and they are great. Lucky people.


I don't follow this subforum at all, so I ask in ignorance: Is this a festival show? And are their festival setlists indicative of what they'll play on their own tour?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on July 04, 2011, 02:07:51 PM
Very good choice! Forsaken is a cool little song, and it is a way to represent SC without wasting too much time on songs like TDEN, CM or else.

@cyber, so let's go with Walls, we'll see tomorrow XD
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: jerome snail on July 04, 2011, 02:07:56 PM
I love the part just before the solo.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tri.ad on July 04, 2011, 02:08:11 PM
anyone know how long the set is supposed to be?


My guess is that it's going to be 75-90 minutes long, since they started at 9:45 and will most likely end between 11:00 and 11:30.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on July 04, 2011, 02:09:41 PM
anyone know how long the set is supposed to be?


My guess is that it's going to be 75-90 minutes long, since they started at 9:45 and will most likely end between 11:00 and 11:30.

I think (and hope) that they will most likely hit the 2:15 mark! I am quite sure that the curfew is at 00:00
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: cyberdrummer on July 04, 2011, 02:10:11 PM
"james spitting water over MM"
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 02:10:28 PM
 :metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tri.ad on July 04, 2011, 02:10:51 PM
"james spitting water over MM"

So much for the tsunami washing over MM's head.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: cyberdrummer on July 04, 2011, 02:11:19 PM
1. Under A Glass Moon
2. These Walls
3. Forsaken
4. Endless Sacrifice
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: GUIGUICH on July 04, 2011, 02:11:50 PM
under a glass moon
the answer lie within
forsaken
endless sacrifice
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(https://dreamtheater.forumcommunity.net/?t=43860294&st=255)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 02:11:54 PM
1. Under A Glass Moon
2. These Walls
3. Forsaken
4. Endless Sacrifice
:omg: Wow nice  :metal :metal MM has a nice challenge !!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: ResultsMayVary on July 04, 2011, 02:12:04 PM
Awesome set so far!  :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tri.ad on July 04, 2011, 02:12:35 PM
Let's just hope that they won't play it on every show. Although my opinion on it has changed. It's one of the "could have been" DT songs, with a good basic idea that went somewhere where it shouldn't have gone.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Adami on July 04, 2011, 02:12:49 PM
All JP lyrics so far it seems.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Scooterfruit on July 04, 2011, 02:13:36 PM
Yeah. John seems to really like the songs he wrote  :P
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: cyberdrummer on July 04, 2011, 02:14:01 PM
Yeah I've seen Endless Sacrifice three times since 2005. I hope they don't play it every show.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Infinite Cactus on July 04, 2011, 02:14:40 PM
This is a very interesting setlist. But I like it. I like it A LOT
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 02:14:51 PM
So far we've got I&W, Octavarium, SC and ToT ;) Awake next !!!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: aurorablind on July 04, 2011, 02:14:59 PM
Not a favorite of mine, but its still a good song. Hoping for something completely shocking!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tri.ad on July 04, 2011, 02:15:23 PM
So far we've got I&W, Octavarium, SC and ToT ;) Awake next !!!

Can't go wrong with that.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: John94 on July 04, 2011, 02:15:32 PM
Awesome Endless Sacrifice. I would love to see it live myself. It's the first song that got me into DT. I'd "come full circle" then.

DT are doing a good few songs that haven't been played for a while! Hopefully Trial of Tears and Hell's Kitchen are played at some point too.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on July 04, 2011, 02:16:33 PM
I actually feel some Six Dregrees coming close  :yarr
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Zydar on July 04, 2011, 02:16:43 PM
Hmm aside from UAGM none of these songs are in my DT Top 25. Hoping for some favourites coming soon :P
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Scooterfruit on July 04, 2011, 02:17:08 PM
Forgive my ignorance, but what kind of festival are they playing? MP always tailored the setlist to the type of show they were playing at. I guess it's safe to assume it's a metal festival?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 02:17:26 PM
1. Under A Glass Moon
2. These Walls
3. Forsaken
4. Endless Sacrifice
so far ;) posted this to not forget ;)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on July 04, 2011, 02:18:12 PM
Forgive my ignorance, but what kind of festival are they playing? MP always tailored the setlist to the type of show they were playing at. I guess it's safe to assume it's a metal festival?

The festival is known as "Rock In Rome". Judging on the other acts, it is all but a straight metal festival.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: John94 on July 04, 2011, 02:18:49 PM
https://lockerz.com/s/117045953 - Some guy posted this one twitter. Kinda blurry, but still, it's a picture!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Adami on July 04, 2011, 02:19:11 PM
I like the first two songs, but Forsaken and ES are two of my least favorite DT songs. :(


I'm sure the rest will be better. :)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tri.ad on July 04, 2011, 02:20:01 PM
https://lockerz.com/s/117045953 - Some guy posted this one twitter. Kinda blurry, but still, it's a picture!

Well, I wouldn't mind the blurriness, but it's quite small. Shame. But I'm sure we'll get to see some high quality pictures tomorrow.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 02:21:34 PM
Setlist appeared on setlist.fm
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/dream-theater/2011/ippodromo-capannelle-rome-italy-53d36b01.html
Cyberdrummer You....  :angel:
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: cyberdrummer on July 04, 2011, 02:21:51 PM
"wow, that rocked hard"
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Infinite Cactus on July 04, 2011, 02:22:04 PM
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=24446.new#new
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 02:22:22 PM
Like that comment :)  :metal :metal :yarr
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: cyberdrummer on July 04, 2011, 02:22:56 PM
1. Under A Glass Moon
2. These Walls
3. Forsaken
4. Endless Sacrifice
Drum Solo
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tri.ad on July 04, 2011, 02:23:14 PM
 :lol Let him play. Awesome.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 02:23:39 PM
1. Under A Glass Moon
2. These Walls
3. Forsaken
4. Endless Sacrifice
Drum Solo
Really?? :omg:
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: John94 on July 04, 2011, 02:24:35 PM
Can see it leading into a JLB speech or OTBOA.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: cyberdrummer on July 04, 2011, 02:24:49 PM
"chills! Awesome!"
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: DarkEternalNight on July 04, 2011, 02:25:11 PM
(https://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu328/zerosignal/1250094057061.jpg?t=1282236746)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Scooterfruit on July 04, 2011, 02:25:32 PM
Can't say I'm surprised. One of the best drummers on planet Earth needs to have a drum solo...also considering the circumstances, it makes sense.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Infinite Cactus on July 04, 2011, 02:25:32 PM
The flow of this is actually a lot like early 80s Van Halen Setlists.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 02:26:05 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: juzzwuzzz on July 04, 2011, 02:27:03 PM
Dream Theater Concert Setlist at Ippodromo Capannelle, Rome, Italy: bit.ly/m7KpMm  (via @setlistfm)

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/dream-theater/2011/ippodromo-capannelle-rome-italy-53d36b01.html

is this the setlist of the tonight show?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 02:27:37 PM
!!!! :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Zydar on July 04, 2011, 02:27:43 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: cyberdrummer on July 04, 2011, 02:28:14 PM
1. Under A Glass Moon
2. These Walls
3. Forsaken
4. Endless Sacrifice
Drum Solo
5. Ytse Jam
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 02:28:48 PM
1. Under A Glass Moon
2. These Walls
3. Forsaken
4. Endless Sacrifice
Drum Solo
5. Ytse Jam
Unexpected!!!! I wish to see it live  :metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: aurorablind on July 04, 2011, 02:29:07 PM
Hell yeah! Thats awesome!  :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Infinite Cactus on July 04, 2011, 02:29:08 PM
AWESOME
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tri.ad on July 04, 2011, 02:29:24 PM
Oh hell yeah! Way to get on with the good stuff. :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Adami on July 04, 2011, 02:29:47 PM
AWESOME


Very.


Well they're being rather unpredictable I gotta say.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 02:30:34 PM
Drum solo relieved from the middle of Ytse Jam ;)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: juzzwuzzz on July 04, 2011, 02:31:03 PM
hope somebody made a video from the drum solo :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Infinite Cactus on July 04, 2011, 02:31:05 PM
Even though I'm not big on Forsaken and ES, I really dig the variety and would be perfectly content with these songs live.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 02:32:19 PM
Damn, I wish Ytse Jam last to the end of the tour. I really want to see it live in Katowice... :metal :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: ResultsMayVary on July 04, 2011, 02:33:11 PM
Such a variety in the setlist!  :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: cyberdrummer on July 04, 2011, 02:33:33 PM
1. Under A Glass Moon
2. These Walls
3. Forsaken
4. Endless Sacrifice
Drum Solo
5. Ytse Jam
6. Peruvian Skies
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tri.ad on July 04, 2011, 02:34:03 PM
This is getting better and better. One song per album, I guess?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Zydar on July 04, 2011, 02:34:15 PM
:tup
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Scooterfruit on July 04, 2011, 02:34:55 PM
Hitting each album so far is really cool!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 02:35:13 PM
Peruvian Skies might be ;) A little calm ;) So what? BC&SL next? Awake for the end?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Infinite Cactus on July 04, 2011, 02:35:40 PM
I bet the Awake song is CIAW if that is the case
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: aurorablind on July 04, 2011, 02:36:10 PM
Nice! Would love to be there to headbang during the midsection  :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Infinite Cactus on July 04, 2011, 02:36:31 PM
This set is full of Dynamic songs, I will say that. Very good balance of Metal and Mellow in each song for the most part.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: cyberdrummer on July 04, 2011, 02:40:33 PM
1. Under A Glass Moon
2. These Walls
3. Forsaken
4. Endless Sacrifice
Drum Solo
5. Ytse Jam
6. Peruvian Skies
7. The Great Debate
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: aurorablind on July 04, 2011, 02:41:02 PM
Ohh yeah!  ;D
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Zydar on July 04, 2011, 02:41:05 PM
Are you justified?! :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Jaffa on July 04, 2011, 02:41:16 PM
UAGM to open?  This interests me.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tri.ad on July 04, 2011, 02:41:37 PM
LIFE TO SAVE LIFE
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 02:42:00 PM
6DOIT, The Great Debate....again I could say ;) it's a good one ;) :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: robwebster on July 04, 2011, 02:42:07 PM
They brought back the Ytse Jam!

YESSS!

Ohhhh, I remember someone saying that they'd never play the songs from WDADU any more as the other guys weren't that into them. I have never been more delighted to say "what an absolute crock!"

UAGM is interesting as an opener, but Peruvian Skies as a closer is the weirdest. And, perhaps, pretty convincing as a stroke of genius. The build-and-release... I'd've never thought to end with it, but that's damn cool. Crescendos nicely. Forsaken and Endless Sacrifice I've heard plenty enough of on the past three tours (four for ES), but 5/7 ain't bad.

And I forgot to mention These Walls! Not been played since OVM tour, and they didn't play it much on that. Ace song. Brilliant!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Infinite Cactus on July 04, 2011, 02:42:10 PM
YAY MY FAVORITE FROM SDOIT!

Also, a great drum song. maybe one of MP's best.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Addy on July 04, 2011, 02:42:46 PM
 :heart the set so far !
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: RoeDent on July 04, 2011, 02:43:12 PM
This is remarkable so far! The Great Debate is my favourite from Disc1 of 6DOIT. Thank you for the updates. You're doing a fine job!  :tup  :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 02:43:27 PM
IL GRANDE DIBATTITO - from Italian forum  ;D
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Adami on July 04, 2011, 02:43:30 PM
I'm really hoping the scenes song isn't TSCO.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Letter M on July 04, 2011, 02:43:51 PM
1. Under A Glass Moon
2. These Walls
3. Forsaken
4. Endless Sacrifice
Drum Solo
5. Ytse Jam
6. Peruvian Skies
7. The Great Debate

Whoa! "Ytse Jam" is back baby! Awesome that the drum solo preceded it rather than sit in the middle of it!

So far one song from each album except Awake, Scenes and BC&SL. And I'm willing to bet they play "On The Backs Of Angels" second to last. Hopefully the Awake song will be "Caught In A Web" and the Scenes song is "The Spirit Carries On". As for BC&SL...how about "The Count Of Tuscany"? It'd be a great way to close the set!

-Marc.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: petrucci07 on July 04, 2011, 02:43:59 PM
Don't really like this setlist. Nothing great, apart from The Great Debate.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: perfey on July 04, 2011, 02:44:12 PM
Awesome setlist so far! Very, very varied and totally unexpected! This is how I want DT to do their setlist! I wonder if they discuss what they're gonna play each night together or if someone else has taken over MP:s setlistmaking, like JP?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Zook on July 04, 2011, 02:44:36 PM
Don't really like this setlist. Nothing great, apart from The Great Debate.

i c wut u did thur
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Infinite Cactus on July 04, 2011, 02:44:39 PM
They brought back the Ytse Jam!

YESSS!

Ohhhh, I remember someone saying that they'd never play the songs from WDADU any more as the other guys weren't that into them. I have never been more delighted to say "what an absolute crock!"

UAGM is interesting as an opener, but Peruvian Skies as a closer is the weirdest. And, perhaps, pretty convincing as a stroke of genius. The build-and-release... I'd've never thought to end with it, but that's damn cool. Crescendos nicely. Forsaken and Endless Sacrifice I've heard plenty enough of on the past three tours (four for ES), but 5/7 ain't bad.

And I forgot to mention These Walls! Not been played since OVM tour, and they didn't play it much on that. Ace song. Brilliant!


Peruvian Skies isn't the closer.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: chrisbDTM on July 04, 2011, 02:45:06 PM
the forsaken and endless sacrifice block is a little ehhhh, but other than that, id love to see that setlist
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 02:45:27 PM
Almost an hour of play so far
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tri.ad on July 04, 2011, 02:45:43 PM
I'm really hoping the scenes song isn't TSCO.

I have a feeling that it's going to be.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: petrucci07 on July 04, 2011, 02:45:52 PM
Don't really like this setlist. Nothing great, apart from The Great Debate.

i c wut u did thur

Oh yeah!  :lol Did not notice.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Edergilmour on July 04, 2011, 02:46:09 PM
The Great Debate!! One of my favorites.  :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: chaotic_ripper on July 04, 2011, 02:46:28 PM
Wow, all JP songs.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Bertielee on July 04, 2011, 02:46:43 PM
The setlist now says The Great Debate : wow!

B.Lee
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on July 04, 2011, 02:46:51 PM
Fuck Yeah!!!

You know, people, this morning I made a bet on Ytse this morning. Seems I won!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: robwebster on July 04, 2011, 02:46:58 PM
They brought back the Ytse Jam!

YESSS!

Ohhhh, I remember someone saying that they'd never play the songs from WDADU any more as the other guys weren't that into them. I have never been more delighted to say "what an absolute crock!"

UAGM is interesting as an opener, but Peruvian Skies as a closer is the weirdest. And, perhaps, pretty convincing as a stroke of genius. The build-and-release... I'd've never thought to end with it, but that's damn cool. Crescendos nicely. Forsaken and Endless Sacrifice I've heard plenty enough of on the past three tours (four for ES), but 5/7 ain't bad.

And I forgot to mention These Walls! Not been played since OVM tour, and they didn't play it much on that. Ace song. Brilliant!


Peruvian Skies isn't the closer.
Wait, they're still playing!? Shit, I figured that was just a six-song festival set or some such.

Brilliant!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Dynia on July 04, 2011, 02:47:42 PM
Oh wow, amazing setlist. That's decided, I am going to Katowice to see them at the end of july. So many great songs here... I can't skip this tour.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: chrisbDTM on July 04, 2011, 02:47:59 PM
im gonna bet on CIAW next
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 02:48:04 PM
I'm really hoping the scenes song isn't TSCO.

I have a feeling that it's going to be.
Me too...
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 02:49:10 PM
Oh wow, amazing setlist. That's decided, I am going to Katowice to see them at the end of july. So many great songs here... I can't skip this tour.
:tup :tup :tup :tup
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Infinite Cactus on July 04, 2011, 02:49:45 PM
I'm really hoping the scenes song isn't TSCO.

I have a feeling that it's going to be.

I actually feel like it might be TDOE
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Letter M on July 04, 2011, 02:50:04 PM
I'm really hoping the scenes song isn't TSCO.

I have a feeling that it's going to be.
Me too...

Ditto. I hope, that if they do a song from BC&SL that it isn't "A Nightmare To Remember" or "A Rite Of Passage"... I'd much prefer "The Count Of Tuscany", but if their set list is 90-100 minutes at most, that'd be cutting it close as they're about to 60-65 minutes so far, and with at least an Awake and Scenes songs left (assuming they do CIAW and TSCO, bringing the total up to 75 minutes), they may not have enough time for TCOT.

-Marc.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: robwebster on July 04, 2011, 02:50:33 PM
Am I the only one adding each song to a playlist as it's announced, and listening on a five-or-so minute delay?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: petrucci07 on July 04, 2011, 02:50:43 PM
Do they still think that the fans actually enjoy Forsaken? I have a feeling a lot of us would rather see something better. Then again, that's just me.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Infinite Cactus on July 04, 2011, 02:50:49 PM
Somebody ask who is doing the backing vocals. Just JP, JP and JR, a vocal harmonizer or samples?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: aurorablind on July 04, 2011, 02:51:19 PM
And im guessing that On The Back of Angels will make an appearance as well.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: jingle.boy on July 04, 2011, 02:51:55 PM
Studio Forsaken is meh; live Forsaken (saw it on CiM) was surprisingly good.

I predict Lie and Wither.  Gotta slow it down at some point again.  Plus, not much time to do a big one from BC&SL, and ARoP has been done enough.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 02:52:05 PM
Am I the only one adding each song to a playlist as it's announced, and listening on a five-or-so minute delay?
No, I'm doing that as well. I'm at Peruvian Skies now ;)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Writer on July 04, 2011, 02:52:09 PM
I'm shooting that the next will be 6:00, beyond this life and on the backs of angels as the closer.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Ħ on July 04, 2011, 02:52:15 PM
So far I'm not too happy with the setlist...
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Infinite Cactus on July 04, 2011, 02:52:19 PM
Do they still think that the fans actually enjoy Forsaken? I have a feeling a lot of us would rather see something better. Then again, that's just me.
I'm sure it translates well live, also, they probably like the song themselves .
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: jerome snail on July 04, 2011, 02:52:36 PM
Do they still think that the fans actually enjoy Forsaken? I have a feeling a lot of us would rather see something better. Then again, that's just me.
I actually enjoy it.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: MirzekDT on July 04, 2011, 02:53:24 PM
I'm sooo much looking forward to hear The Great Debate. I really hope they will keep this one on every setlist through tour.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: cyberdrummer on July 04, 2011, 02:54:32 PM
1. Under A Glass Moon
2. These Walls
3. Forsaken
4. Endless Sacrifice
Drum Solo
5. Ytse Jam
6. Peruvian Skies
7. The Great Debate
8. On the Backs of Angels
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: aurorablind on July 04, 2011, 02:55:04 PM
Told ya!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tri.ad on July 04, 2011, 02:55:10 PM
There it is. :laugh:
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 02:55:16 PM
Yeah, that was easy ;) It just had to be ;)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: petrucci07 on July 04, 2011, 02:55:22 PM
I'm sooo much looking forward to hear The Great Debate. I really hope they will keep this one on every setlist through tour.

Same! Classic.
I hope they close with Octavarium, play something good from Awake (Mirror? 6:00? CIAW?).
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: juzzwuzzz on July 04, 2011, 02:55:27 PM
dont think on the backs of angels will be the closer... but they will play it i think

Playing on the backs of angels right now
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Ħ on July 04, 2011, 02:55:29 PM
 :metal

That means....will they close with an epic?

A change of seasons, a change of seasons, a change of seasons......... :caffeine:
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: bss4life15 on July 04, 2011, 02:55:33 PM
1. Under A Glass Moon
2. These Walls
3. Forsaken
4. Endless Sacrifice
Drum Solo
5. Ytse Jam
6. Peruvian Skies
7. The Great Debate
8. On the Backs of Angels

Hells Yeah :biggrin:
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Jaffa on July 04, 2011, 02:55:58 PM
OtBoA next. 

1. Under A Glass Moon
2. These Walls
3. Forsaken
4. Endless Sacrifice
Drum Solo
5. Ytse Jam
6. Peruvian Skies
7. The Great Debate
8. On the Backs of Angels
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Scooterfruit on July 04, 2011, 02:56:09 PM
Fantastic.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: robwebster on July 04, 2011, 02:57:06 PM
Studio Forsaken is meh; live Forsaken (saw it on CiM) was surprisingly good.
Saw it on BCSL tour, but aside that - ditto! It's a nice enough song on the album, but live it brings the house down. Very cool.

Endless Sacrifice, on the other hand, this is... I said the fourth tour running, in the other thread, but they'll've played it on the TOT tour (duh!), too, so it's its fifth actually. I've seen them four times, and seen Endless Sacrifice three. Ready for a break.

Am I the only one adding each song to a playlist as it's announced, and listening on a five-or-so minute delay?
No, I'm doing that as well. I'm at Peruvian Skies now ;)
I only just found out this was happening, so I went straight into The Great Debate, but nonetheless, absolutely loving it.

Ahhh! I can't add On the Backs of Angels to my playlist, bastard Roadrunner not releasing the mp3. Still, first chance to hear it in context with other DT songs. Excellent times.



Incidentally - how killer do we reckon Mangini was on The Great Debate?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 02:57:22 PM
:metal

That means....will they close with an epic?

A change of seasons, a change of seasons, a change of seasons......... :caffeine:
:caffeine::caffeine::caffeine::caffeine::caffeine::caffeine::caffeine::caffeine::caffeine::caffeine:
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Bertielee on July 04, 2011, 02:57:54 PM
OtBoA next. 

1. Under A Glass Moon
2. These Walls
3. Forsaken
4. Endless Sacrifice
Drum Solo
5. Ytse Jam
6. Peruvian Skies
7. The Great Debate
8. On the Backs of Angels

Yes!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Letter M on July 04, 2011, 02:58:11 PM
Close to 70 minutes so far in the set list. I wonder if we'll even get songs from Awake or Scenes or BC&SL? Or perhaps they'll close with ACOS?

-Marc.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: cyberdrummer on July 04, 2011, 02:59:57 PM
"This [OTBOA] does sound like a Six Degrees song following TGD"
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 03:00:42 PM
They connect it?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: aurorablind on July 04, 2011, 03:01:12 PM
Im guessing if they close with an epic it will be TCOT or Octavarium.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: cyberdrummer on July 04, 2011, 03:01:19 PM
I think he just means the similarity in sound is emphasised by juxtaposing them in the set.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Scooterfruit on July 04, 2011, 03:01:52 PM
EDIT...cyberdrummer beat me to it.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: sfam2112 on July 04, 2011, 03:02:18 PM
How were the backing vocals handled in TGD and PS? Did Petrucci cover them, I guess?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: bss4life15 on July 04, 2011, 03:02:32 PM
They should close with You Not Me
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 03:02:45 PM
Got it :tup
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: cyberdrummer on July 04, 2011, 03:03:06 PM
How were the backing vocals handled in TGD and PS? Did Petrucci cover them, I guess?

I've asked, will let you know if I get a reply.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Ħ on July 04, 2011, 03:03:10 PM
They should close with You Not Me
That would be pretty funny if they played like 10 seconds of it, then went to ACOS.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Infinite Cactus on July 04, 2011, 03:03:24 PM
How were the backing vocals handled in TGD and PS? Did Petrucci cover them, I guess?
REPOST:Somebody ask who is doing the backing vocals. Just JP, JP and JR, a vocal harmonizer or samples?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: BRGM on July 04, 2011, 03:03:42 PM
What a great great setlist! These Walls, Endless Sacrifice, Peruvian skies, The great debate?!?!? Man! I love it
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: robwebster on July 04, 2011, 03:03:52 PM
How were the backing vocals handled in TGD and PS? Did Petrucci cover them, I guess?
My guess would be samples, a la Prophets of War, but I'm keen to find out too. Quite excited.

I always wondered how they'd handle Medicate, what with James overlapping himself in the song.

EDIT: Oh wow! I just pressed "PLAY" on OtBoA as TGD was still fading out... it totally matches!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Ħ on July 04, 2011, 03:04:45 PM
How were the backing vocals handled in TGD and PS? Did Petrucci cover them, I guess?
My guess would be samples, a la Prophets of War, but I'm keen to find out too. Quite excited.

I always wondered how they'd handle Medicate, what with James overlapping himself in the song.
On Score, James just truncates himself, and there is no overlapping.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: petrucci07 on July 04, 2011, 03:05:10 PM
Next song should be starting around now
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: robwebster on July 04, 2011, 03:05:35 PM
How were the backing vocals handled in TGD and PS? Did Petrucci cover them, I guess?
My guess would be samples, a la Prophets of War, but I'm keen to find out too. Quite excited.

I always wondered how they'd handle Medicate, what with James overlapping himself in the song.
On Score, James just truncates himself, and there is no overlapping.
Aye, I know. Wondered past tense. I saw it live before Score was even a glint in Mike Portnoy's eye. Just saying that I have a bit of a record of wondering how they'll handle vocals. :p
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: cyberdrummer on July 04, 2011, 03:06:00 PM
1. Under A Glass Moon
2. These Walls
3. Forsaken
4. Endless Sacrifice
Drum Solo
5. Ytse Jam
6. Peruvian Skies
7. The Great Debate
8. On the Backs of Angels
9. Caught In A Web

"James speech, intro MM. are you ready to move forward opines James while taking us back to caught in a web"
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: aurorablind on July 04, 2011, 03:06:11 PM
How were the backing vocals handled in TGD and PS? Did Petrucci cover them, I guess?
My guess would be samples, a la Prophets of War, but I'm keen to find out too. Quite excited.

I always wondered how they'd handle Medicate, what with James overlapping himself in the song.
On Score, James just truncates himself, and there is no overlapping.

"While my concience slips awaaydicate me"  :P
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Writer on July 04, 2011, 03:06:41 PM
Caught in a Web. Damn it.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Infinite Cactus on July 04, 2011, 03:06:46 PM
CIAW. LOL at the Jordan Tease the other night on the chat.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: aurorablind on July 04, 2011, 03:07:07 PM
Caught in a web! HELL YEAH!  :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 03:07:20 PM
 :metal :metal :metal :metal
CIAW. LOL at the Jordan Tease the other night on the chat.
This ;)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tri.ad on July 04, 2011, 03:07:33 PM
Nice. Overall, this is a really good set list so far.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: petrucci07 on July 04, 2011, 03:09:31 PM
Not impressed with this setlist tbh. Less mediocre songs, plox
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: setrataeso on July 04, 2011, 03:10:02 PM
Not impressed with this setlist tbh. Less mediocre songs, plox

Are you seeing the same setlist as we are?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: cyberdrummer on July 04, 2011, 03:10:20 PM
1. Under A Glass Moon
2. These Walls
3. Forsaken
4. Endless Sacrifice
Drum Solo
5. Ytse Jam
6. Peruvian Skies
7. The Great Debate
8. On the Backs of Angels
9. Caught In A Web
10. Through My Words
11. Fatal Tragedy
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: WildeSilas on July 04, 2011, 03:10:31 PM
CAUGHT IN A WEB MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!!

HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!  :tup
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 03:10:43 PM
 :omg:
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Knguro on July 04, 2011, 03:10:54 PM
I have no idea of whats better the setlist or the intention of it?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Ħ on July 04, 2011, 03:10:57 PM
unexpected/10
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: perfectchaos180 on July 04, 2011, 03:11:11 PM
It seems most of you are really for or against this setlist

I on the other hand thing its an incredibly "ok" setlist >_>

I'd probably be disappointed after I left.

Although they could remedy anything with an Octavarium or ACoS encore.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: jingle.boy on July 04, 2011, 03:11:21 PM
Nice. Overall, this is a really good set list so far.

agreed  :tup

Not impressed with this setlist tbh. Less mediocre songs, plox

to each their own

Through her eyes.  Can only mean Home?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: John94 on July 04, 2011, 03:11:31 PM
Can I post a video somebody posted on twitter?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: bss4life15 on July 04, 2011, 03:11:40 PM
Ummm...
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: chrisbDTM on July 04, 2011, 03:11:48 PM
this is awesome
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: petrucci07 on July 04, 2011, 03:11:56 PM
Not impressed with this setlist tbh. Less mediocre songs, plox

Are you seeing the same setlist as we are?

Haha, indeed I am. I just don't really like Endless Sacrifice, Forsaken, Under a Glass Moon and Peruvian Skies that much. I consider them kinda mediocre compared to the rest of the DT discography (or indeed compared to the rest of the album they are each from).
Also, Through Her Eyes, WTF?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Letter M on July 04, 2011, 03:12:21 PM
1. Under A Glass Moon
2. These Walls
3. Forsaken
4. Endless Sacrifice
Drum Solo
5. Ytse Jam
6. Peruvian Skies
7. The Great Debate
8. On the Backs of Angels
9. Caught In A Web
10. Through Her Eyes

Close with "The Count Of Tuscany"!!!

I hope THE is the rock-out-ending version!

Also, what are the chances that they learned 2 songs from each of their first 10 albums? So they can swap out and switch creating a variety of setlists between 20 (well, 21) songs?

-Marc.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Infinite Cactus on July 04, 2011, 03:12:50 PM
You know what would be incredible but won't happen. Don't Look Past Me
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tri.ad on July 04, 2011, 03:12:55 PM
Through Her Eyes? Now that's very surprising (even more than Ytsé Jam).
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: robwebster on July 04, 2011, 03:13:01 PM
1. Under A Glass Moon
2. These Walls
3. Forsaken
4. Endless Sacrifice
Drum Solo
5. Ytse Jam
6. Peruvian Skies
7. The Great Debate
8. On the Backs of Angels
9. Caught In A Web
10. Through My Words
11. Fatal Tragedy
THAT'S more like it.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Jaffa on July 04, 2011, 03:13:18 PM
1. Under A Glass Moon
2. These Walls
3. Forsaken
4. Endless Sacrifice
Drum Solo
5. Ytse Jam
6. Peruvian Skies
7. The Great Debate
8. On the Backs of Angels
9. Caught In A Web
10. Through My Words
11. Fatal Tragedy

Um.  Curveball?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: cyberdrummer on July 04, 2011, 03:13:25 PM
1. Under A Glass Moon
2. These Walls
3. Forsaken
4. Endless Sacrifice
Drum Solo
5. Ytse Jam
6. Peruvian Skies
7. The Great Debate
8. On the Backs of Angels
9. Caught In A Web
10. Through My Words
11. Fatal Tragedy

"Through her eyes, I think, always get these mixed up... all your eyes have ever seen

oops, fatal tragedy. awkwardly embarrassing"
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: zxlkho on July 04, 2011, 03:13:33 PM
I am impressed.

With the exception of Forsaken, Endless Sacrifice, Ytse Jam, and TGD
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: chrisbDTM on July 04, 2011, 03:14:05 PM
oh damn. through her eyes would be cool to see anyway


but FT  :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Infinite Cactus on July 04, 2011, 03:14:11 PM
It'd be cool to have a BCSL song AND A Change of Seasons. But also, Jordan did have the pedal steel in those pictures posted a while back, which would kind of hint at Octavarium.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 03:14:45 PM
1. Under A Glass Moon
2. These Walls
3. Forsaken
4. Endless Sacrifice
Drum Solo
5. Ytse Jam
6. Peruvian Skies
7. The Great Debate
8. On the Backs of Angels
9. Caught In A Web
10. Through My Words
11. Fatal Tragedy
Now you are talking   :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: petrucci07 on July 04, 2011, 03:14:53 PM
FATAL TRAGEDY FUCK YES

I hope to God they play Octavarium/ACoS
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tri.ad on July 04, 2011, 03:15:00 PM
Much better. Good thing that they chose the best song on SFAM.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: jingle.boy on July 04, 2011, 03:15:06 PM
1. Under A Glass Moon
2. These Walls
3. Forsaken
4. Endless Sacrifice
Drum Solo
5. Ytse Jam
6. Peruvian Skies
7. The Great Debate
8. On the Backs of Angels
9. Caught In A Web
10. Through My Words
11. Fatal Tragedy
THAT'S more like it.

that was my instant thought when I saw THE... I got them mixed up too.  This makes more sense.  Good closing combination, and an epic encore
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: perfectchaos180 on July 04, 2011, 03:15:34 PM
this is a long set....

since they haven't hit BCSL yet it makes me think TCOT encore
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: juzzwuzzz on July 04, 2011, 03:15:37 PM
they play a song from almost every album ...nice setlist
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: setrataeso on July 04, 2011, 03:15:40 PM
This is actually an unreal setlist. Major props to DT for surprising me with such an unexpected setlist. I really thought they would play it safe.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Letter M on July 04, 2011, 03:15:49 PM
Ah it's TMW/FT, Scene 3 FTW!

The closer has to be from BC&SL... We're at about 85 minutes now...

-Marc.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: petrucci07 on July 04, 2011, 03:16:11 PM
PLEASE DON'T CLOSE WITH TCOT
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: jingle.boy on July 04, 2011, 03:16:31 PM
Best of Times would be shocking now, wouldn't it?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: bss4life15 on July 04, 2011, 03:16:37 PM
Learning to Live closer would be amazing
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: ResultsMayVary on July 04, 2011, 03:16:41 PM
Solid set!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: robwebster on July 04, 2011, 03:16:56 PM
It'd be cool to have a BCSL song AND A Change of Seasons. But also, Jordan did have the pedal steel in those pictures posted a while back, which would kind of hint at Octavarium.
Thing about that is it wouldn't be a "last minute" epic if we saw the lap steel a while back, and Mangini said he's learnt one of them.

So OVM doesn't rule out ACOS! Maybe the two of 'em rotating?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Writer on July 04, 2011, 03:17:01 PM
And for the encore: A Rite of Passage.

Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: perfectchaos180 on July 04, 2011, 03:17:02 PM
Also have the other members of the band not jammed at all or was it just MM?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Infinite Cactus on July 04, 2011, 03:17:05 PM
PLEASE DON'T CLOSE WITH TCOT
But.....why not? :(
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: pianoman on July 04, 2011, 03:17:24 PM
Learning to Live closer would be amazing

THIS
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: aurorablind on July 04, 2011, 03:17:38 PM
PLEASE DON'T CLOSE WITH TCOT

It's very likely, and it will surely rock!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: ReaperKK on July 04, 2011, 03:18:02 PM
The Great Debate w00t!

edit: I want a bootleg of this nao
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: chrisbDTM on July 04, 2011, 03:18:04 PM
they played TCOT every night last tour. its not coming back


EDIT: Wrong


should be 8VM or ACOS. way better epics in every way
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Infinite Cactus on July 04, 2011, 03:18:14 PM
Also, with FT, I REALLY WANT TO KNOW HOW THE VOCALS ARE BEING HANDLED. I assume a vocal harmonizer or something. Or Jordan and John
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: DarkEternalNight on July 04, 2011, 03:18:23 PM
The Count Of Tuscany and Octavarium are my two favorite DT songs so either would be fine!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: cyberdrummer on July 04, 2011, 03:18:26 PM
1. Under A Glass Moon
2. These Walls
3. Forsaken
4. Endless Sacrifice
Drum Solo
5. Ytse Jam
6. Peruvian Skies
7. The Great Debate
8. On the Backs of Angels
9. Caught In A Web
10. Through My Words
11. Fatal Tragedy
12. The Count of Tuscany
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: petrucci07 on July 04, 2011, 03:18:45 PM
PLEASE DON'T CLOSE WITH TCOT
But.....why not? :(

Because 8VM and ACOS are better.

edit: FUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Is that the encore?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: WildeSilas on July 04, 2011, 03:18:50 PM
Seriously, could someone mention who is covering MP's vocal duties?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tri.ad on July 04, 2011, 03:19:04 PM
At this point, TCOT is the only BCASL that would make sense. Must be an encore as well, since it would make the concert perfectly add up to two hours.

Edit: Alright, there you have it.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: aurorablind on July 04, 2011, 03:19:22 PM
TOLD YA
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 03:19:39 PM
1. Under A Glass Moon
2. These Walls
3. Forsaken
4. Endless Sacrifice
Drum Solo
5. Ytse Jam
6. Peruvian Skies
7. The Great Debate
8. On the Backs of Angels
9. Caught In A Web
10. Through My Words
11. Fatal Tragedy
12. The Count of Tuscany
:D :D :metal :metal :corn :corn :biggrin:
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Ħ on July 04, 2011, 03:19:51 PM
Awwww  :\
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Blackfield on July 04, 2011, 03:20:39 PM
The count of tuscany? are you kidding me?  :justjen
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: MirzekDT on July 04, 2011, 03:21:01 PM
PERFECT!!! since I wasn't able to see TCOT on last tour this setlist is unbelievable!!!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: chrisbDTM on July 04, 2011, 03:21:05 PM
TCOT was played too much. didnt think it would be back so soon
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Scooterfruit on July 04, 2011, 03:21:12 PM
Great Setlist. Wish I lived in Rome.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: petrucci07 on July 04, 2011, 03:21:30 PM
I doubt it's the encore, I don't see them walking off after Fatal Tragedy.

THERE IS STILL HOPE
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Letter M on July 04, 2011, 03:21:37 PM
Sweet! The set is at about 105 minutes now. If it's a 2 hour concert/set, we've still got 15 minutes left...10 with a 5 minute break... Metropolis, maybe?

-Marc.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tri.ad on July 04, 2011, 03:22:05 PM
Wait For Sleep/Learning To Live, please.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: perfectchaos180 on July 04, 2011, 03:22:09 PM
Well by the time they hit the US, the whole new album will be out.

We probably don't need to worry about seeing TCOT
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: juzzwuzzz on July 04, 2011, 03:22:09 PM
the count of tuscany

think we only miss a change of season right now?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: cyberdrummer on July 04, 2011, 03:22:23 PM
I think my source would have mentioned an encore break if there had been one. I think they'll be playing up to the hour (midnight in Italy).
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Writer on July 04, 2011, 03:22:32 PM
Nooooo... TCOT
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: John94 on July 04, 2011, 03:22:36 PM
Probably Spirit.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: robwebster on July 04, 2011, 03:22:59 PM
the count of tuscany

think we only miss a change of season right now?
...Good point!



I do love TCOT, but I did think it was a rubbish way to end a gig. Problem is the energy's all gone halfway through the song. An encore would make me a very cheerful bloke.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Knguro on July 04, 2011, 03:23:06 PM
TCoT hell yeah!!!!!!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: AtmosphericV on July 04, 2011, 03:23:20 PM
Wow! Sweet setlist!

I like how they put Caught in a web, Fatal tragedy, OtBoA, Ytse Jam, Under a glass Moon, The count of Tuscany! I am looking forward to hear some quality bootlegs.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: hefdaddy42 on July 04, 2011, 03:23:35 PM
Holy crap, what an awesome setlist (minus Endless Sacrifice).
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Martinman300 on July 04, 2011, 03:23:51 PM
The Great Debate w00t!

edit: I want a bootleg of this nao

+1
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: chaotic_ripper on July 04, 2011, 03:24:06 PM
setlist.fm says Octavarium after TCOT
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: DarkEternalNight on July 04, 2011, 03:24:30 PM
If so, brb booking flight to Europe.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: VioletS16 on July 04, 2011, 03:24:48 PM
HOW WAS/IS IT? HOW IS IT? TELL ME! I am dying over here in Florida! dy-ing!

WAIT
WTF?? Have they played yet?
I am so confused  :laugh:
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: perfectchaos180 on July 04, 2011, 03:24:58 PM
setlist.fm says Octavarium after TCOT

People sometimes like to play jokes, especially with a fanbase like DT's

but that would be amazing
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: zxlkho on July 04, 2011, 03:25:27 PM
Wait For Sleep/Learning To Live, please.
Holy tits, this.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: cyberdrummer on July 04, 2011, 03:25:38 PM
TCOT hasn't finished yet.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Infinite Cactus on July 04, 2011, 03:25:48 PM
LOL.
Well by the time they hit the US, the whole new album will be out.

We probably don't need to worry about seeing TCOT
Who would worry about seeing TCOT? Unless he forces himself on you.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: chaotic_ripper on July 04, 2011, 03:26:18 PM
setlist.fm says Octavarium after TCOT

People sometimes like to play jokes, especially with a fanbase like DT's

but that would be amazing

yeah, now they have the whole 12-step suite on ther.  :(
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Blackfield on July 04, 2011, 03:26:27 PM
Seriously, are they closing with ACOT?  :tdwn

Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Zook on July 04, 2011, 03:26:38 PM
LOL.
Well by the time they hit the US, the whole new album will be out.

We probably don't need to worry about seeing TCOT
Who would worry about seeing TCOT? Unless he forces himself on you.

I wanna see The Count live.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: jerome snail on July 04, 2011, 03:26:50 PM
To bad they only play an hour at Sonisphere :(
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: bss4life15 on July 04, 2011, 03:26:54 PM
LOL.
Well by the time they hit the US, the whole new album will be out.

We probably don't need to worry about seeing TCOT
Who would worry about seeing TCOT? Unless he forces himself on you.

Because they played this song every night last tour and people want to hear a different epic.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: John94 on July 04, 2011, 03:27:14 PM
I think he is just about to introduce his brother.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: TheGreatPretender on July 04, 2011, 03:27:22 PM
Yeah, I definitely wanna hear this. But more so, I can't wait til they announce their full North American tour, so I can actually go see them, hopefully in the fall. Maybe they'll play more songs from the new album then.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: chrisbDTM on July 04, 2011, 03:27:27 PM
LOL.
Well by the time they hit the US, the whole new album will be out.

We probably don't need to worry about seeing TCOT
Who would worry about seeing TCOT? Unless he forces himself on you.

Because they played this song every night last tour and people want to hear a different epic.

THIS
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Infinite Cactus on July 04, 2011, 03:27:45 PM
I still can't believe how butthurt some of you are about TCOT being played. Some of us didn't go to the tour last year. And at least they still play shows.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: robwebster on July 04, 2011, 03:27:51 PM
HOW WAS/IS IT? HOW IS IT? TELL ME! I am dying over here in Florida! dy-ing!

WAIT
WTF?? Have they played yet?
I am so confused  :laugh:
They're playing as we speak! The Count of Tuscany, specifically.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 03:27:55 PM
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/dream-theater/2011/ippodromo-capannelle-rome-italy-53d36b01.html

 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: ResultsMayVary on July 04, 2011, 03:28:08 PM
I saw TCOT the last time I saw them, so I hope they play something different when they hit Ohio. ACOS would be nice, since I haven't seen it live yet.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Letter M on July 04, 2011, 03:28:13 PM
Seriously, are they closing with ACOT?  :tdwn



ACOT? A Change Of Tuscany? :lol

Seriously though, I can see the encore being "A Change Of Seasons" only because if they stick to the one-song-per-album scheme they've built the setlist on, then playing "Octavarium" would mean having done TWO songs from that album, but doing ACOS means they've covered 11 studio albums and their studio EP.

Also, IIRC, the last time ACOS was played in full was on the Train Of Thought tour, where as 8VM was played more recently, so I think it's time to bring back ACOS.

-Marc.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Jaffa on July 04, 2011, 03:28:38 PM
But more so, I can't wait til they announce their full North American tour, so I can actually go see them

So very this. 
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: perfectchaos180 on July 04, 2011, 03:29:26 PM
If there is an encore it will probably be Pull Me Under or Metropolis

new drummer, he's gotta be welcomed in by one of the two
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: aurorablind on July 04, 2011, 03:29:40 PM
Seriously, are they closing with ACOT?  :tdwn



ACOT? A Change Of Tuscany? :lol

Seriously though, I can see the encore being "A Change Of Seasons" only because if they stick to the one-song-per-album scheme they've built the setlist on, then playing "Octavarium" would mean having done TWO songs from that album, but doing ACOS means they've covered 11 studio albums and their studio EP.

-Marc.

I was thinking the exact same thing. That would have been so goddamn awesome i can't even put it into words.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Zook on July 04, 2011, 03:29:57 PM
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/dream-theater/2011/ippodromo-capannelle-rome-italy-53d36b01.html

 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

That would be the greatest setlist ever!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: VioletS16 on July 04, 2011, 03:29:58 PM
HOW WAS/IS IT? HOW IS IT? TELL ME! I am dying over here in Florida! dy-ing!

WAIT
WTF?? Have they played yet?
I am so confused  :laugh:
They're playing as we speak! The Count of Tuscany, specifically.
Ohhh wow
I didn't know they were still going!!!!!
How long have they been going? How many hours have they been playing?
oooommmmggg I'm so happpppy!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: jingle.boy on July 04, 2011, 03:30:17 PM
Seriously, are they closing with ACOT?  :tdwn



ACOT? A Change Of Tuscany? :lol

Seriously though, I can see the encore being "A Change Of Seasons" only because if they stick to the one-song-per-album scheme they've built the setlist on, then playing "Octavarium" would mean having done TWO songs from that album, but doing ACOS means they've covered 11 studio albums and their studio EP.

Also, IIRC, the last time ACOS was played in full was on the Train Of Thought tour, where as 8VM was played more recently, so I think it's time to bring back ACOS.

-Marc.

The man makes a good point.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 03:30:47 PM
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/dream-theater/2011/ippodromo-capannelle-rome-italy-53d36b01.html

 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

That would be the greatest setlist ever!
Yeah, it's gone now ;)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: ResultsMayVary on July 04, 2011, 03:31:04 PM
Seriously, are they closing with ACOT?  :tdwn



ACOT? A Change Of Tuscany? :lol

Seriously though, I can see the encore being "A Change Of Seasons" only because if they stick to the one-song-per-album scheme they've built the setlist on, then playing "Octavarium" would mean having done TWO songs from that album, but doing ACOS means they've covered 11 studio albums and their studio EP.

Also, IIRC, the last time ACOS was played in full was on the Train Of Thought tour, where as 8VM was played more recently, so I think it's time to bring back ACOS.

-Marc.

The man makes a good point.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: cyberdrummer on July 04, 2011, 03:31:15 PM
And ACOS would fit the 'last minute epic' thing.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: bss4life15 on July 04, 2011, 03:31:37 PM
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/dream-theater/2011/ippodromo-capannelle-rome-italy-53d36b01.html

 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

That would be the greatest setlist ever!
Yeah, it's gone now ;)

Now it says Derek Shirinean keyboard solo
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: petrucci07 on July 04, 2011, 03:31:52 PM
Robwebster, you joker  :lol

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/dream-theater/2011/ippodromo-capannelle-rome-italy-53d36b01.html
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: robwebster on July 04, 2011, 03:32:17 PM
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/dream-theater/2011/ippodromo-capannelle-rome-italy-53d36b01.html

 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

That would be the greatest setlist ever!
Yeah, it's gone now ;)

Now it says Derek Shirinean keyboard solo
Oh come on, I typed it better than that.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: mittinagus on July 04, 2011, 03:32:41 PM
The setlist says they closed with octavarium...

Tin
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 03:32:47 PM
Yeahm setlist.fm users are having nice fun ;)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: bss4life15 on July 04, 2011, 03:33:13 PM
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/dream-theater/2011/ippodromo-capannelle-rome-italy-53d36b01.html

 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

That would be the greatest setlist ever!
Yeah, it's gone now ;)

Now it says Derek Shirinean keyboard solo
Oh come on, I typed it better than that.
:(
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: dvargas on July 04, 2011, 03:34:20 PM
Well now it says there's a Derek Sherinian keyboards solo. Somebody forgot to fast forward 12 years.

Btw none of these songs feature lyrics by MP.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: waldemarfm on July 04, 2011, 03:34:56 PM
I think it would be awkward for them to play such a personal song for MP on MM's first gig -_-
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Jaffa on July 04, 2011, 03:35:05 PM
According to cyberdrummer over on the concerts and setlists board, they're still playing TCOT.  Whoever put 8VM on setlist.fm was probably trolling.  
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: mittinagus on July 04, 2011, 03:36:01 PM
Nope sorry now they change it...

Tin
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: robwebster on July 04, 2011, 03:36:11 PM
Well now it says there's a Derek Sherinian keyboards solo. Somebody forgot to fast forward 12 years.
Ohhhhh, I knew I'd forgotten something.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: chrisbDTM on July 04, 2011, 03:36:14 PM
I think it would be awkward for them to play such a personal song for MP on MM's first gig -_-

im sick of that crap, the only song that can be close to 'too personal' is TBOT. the rest are Dream Theater songs. fair game


also alot of people are tweeting about the 12-step suite being played live. haha
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: juzzwuzzz on July 04, 2011, 03:37:01 PM
Derek Sherinian Keyboard Solo?


Maybe someone is going to tell they are playing a mike portnoy drum solo


o wait they allready did a drum solo

Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Knguro on July 04, 2011, 03:38:00 PM
I think it would be awkward for them to play such a personal song for MP on MM's first gig -_-


Welcome!

BTW who cares! MP does not belong to DT anymore. Have a nice day.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: cyberdrummer on July 04, 2011, 03:38:09 PM
Encore break.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on July 04, 2011, 03:38:38 PM
Oh my god... i could faint...
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: petrucci07 on July 04, 2011, 03:38:42 PM
8VM/ACOS pls
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Ħ on July 04, 2011, 03:38:48 PM
Encore break.
:caffeine:
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 03:39:11 PM
We have killed setlist.fm ;)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: ResultsMayVary on July 04, 2011, 03:39:23 PM
Encore break.
FUCK YES.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tgstk2 on July 04, 2011, 03:39:25 PM
Come on youtube show me something!! If indeed mm got a drum solo i think its awesome what a way to say heres our new dummer look closely cause this is what dumming frim another planet looks like
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: cyberdrummer on July 04, 2011, 03:39:28 PM
1. Under A Glass Moon
2. These Walls
3. Forsaken
4. Endless Sacrifice
Drum Solo
5. Ytse Jam
6. Peruvian Skies
7. The Great Debate
8. On the Backs of Angels
9. Caught In A Web
10. Through My Words
11. Fatal Tragedy
12. The Count of Tuscany
------------------------------
13. Learning to Live
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: BRGM on July 04, 2011, 03:39:33 PM
I'm sooo excited!!
 :rollin


EDIT: That's pretty nice
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: petrucci07 on July 04, 2011, 03:39:51 PM
Is that it, do we reckon?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: robwebster on July 04, 2011, 03:39:56 PM
I think it would be awkward for them to play such a personal song for MP on MM's first gig -_-

im sick of that crap, the only song that can be close to 'too personal' is TBOT. the rest are Dream Theater songs. fair game
In fairness, ACoS is about his mother dying, but I do agree with the point. ACoS has 15 years of age behind it, and was the band's song for a good six years before the death of Mike's mother entered the lyrics. The twelve-step-suite, too, is all theirs now.

But it is interesting that his songs haven't appeared yet.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: John94 on July 04, 2011, 03:40:06 PM
F#! F#! F#!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: bss4life15 on July 04, 2011, 03:40:11 PM
1. Under A Glass Moon
2. These Walls
3. Forsaken
4. Endless Sacrifice
Drum Solo
5. Ytse Jam
6. Peruvian Skies
7. The Great Debate
8. On the Backs of Angels
9. Caught In A Web
10. Through My Words
11. Fatal Tragedy
12. The Count of Tuscany
----------------------------------
13. Learning to Live

Called it.  Also, YESSSSSSSSSS!!!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Jaffa on July 04, 2011, 03:40:15 PM
1. Under A Glass Moon
2. These Walls
3. Forsaken
4. Endless Sacrifice
Drum Solo
5. Ytse Jam
6. Peruvian Skies
7. The Great Debate
8. On the Backs of Angels
9. Caught In A Web
10. Through My Words
11. Fatal Tragedy
12. The Count of Tuscany
----------------------------------
13. Learning to Live
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: zxlkho on July 04, 2011, 03:40:16 PM
OH

MY

GOD

no fucking way. I don't believe you
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: chrisbDTM on July 04, 2011, 03:40:26 PM
great setlist
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Blackfield on July 04, 2011, 03:40:31 PM
Haha yes! Learning to live.. nice :)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 03:40:36 PM
1. Under A Glass Moon
2. These Walls
3. Forsaken
4. Endless Sacrifice
Drum Solo
5. Ytse Jam
6. Peruvian Skies
7. The Great Debate
8. On the Backs of Angels
9. Caught In A Web
10. Through My Words
11. Fatal Tragedy
12. The Count of Tuscany
----------------------------------
13. Learning to Live
YESSSS!!!!! :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on July 04, 2011, 03:40:47 PM
LTL

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE....
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: perfectchaos180 on July 04, 2011, 03:40:54 PM
Could be a medley???
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Letter M on July 04, 2011, 03:41:16 PM
I think it would be awkward for them to play such a personal song for MP on MM's first gig -_-

im sick of that crap, the only song that can be close to 'too personal' is TBOT. the rest are Dream Theater songs. fair game


also alot of people are tweeting about the 12-step suite being played live. haha

Indeed, and the lyrics to ACOS, while point to MP's personal experiences, are ambiguous enough to fit any number of other ideas, unlike TBOT which has specifics that pertain only to MP.

Also, playing "Caught In A Web" and "Fatal Tragedy" breaks the JP-lyrics run that conquered the set.

And also, LTL!!! Too bad it didn't come with WFS...

-Marc.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: petrucci07 on July 04, 2011, 03:41:38 PM
Could be a medley???

Probs not.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: robwebster on July 04, 2011, 03:41:45 PM
Yes! Absolutely fantastic.

Incidentally, with regards to the disappointment of some surrounding TCoT - note that there wasn't a DVD recorded of the last tour, and it's more than likely a song that they're going to want to have documented, so it was a little inevitable it'd be a candidate for this tour's master setlist.

And wrt no MP songs, no songs from any departed lyricists, actually. PMU, for instance, I'd've thought would've been plausible. Glad they haven't brought it up, though. Nor Metropolis.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: jag66 on July 04, 2011, 03:41:54 PM
Quite alot of trolling going on at setlist.fm. Interesting setlist!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Knguro on July 04, 2011, 03:42:05 PM
F#! F#! F#!


Yes yes yes yeeeeeeees!!!!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Scooterfruit on July 04, 2011, 03:42:17 PM
Fucking GREAT set!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tri.ad on July 04, 2011, 03:42:27 PM
HELL YES! :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 03:42:38 PM
Could be a medley???

Probs not.
Could be... ;)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Matt7 on July 04, 2011, 03:42:52 PM
OMG, what a great setlist!...

Learning to live...wow!..
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wolfking on July 04, 2011, 03:43:06 PM
That's seriously a fucking amazing setlist.  These Walls, Endless, Tragedy, Debate, Skies, Web, LTL, couldn't ask for any more.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Dellers on July 04, 2011, 03:43:19 PM
Damn, they played Fatal Tragedy? That song alone is worth it.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Dynia on July 04, 2011, 03:43:46 PM
OH GOD LTL

I hope they will keep it on every setlist

Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: robwebster on July 04, 2011, 03:43:50 PM
Yeah, I don't think they'd be likely to open a medley with Learning to Live. Close it, sure. But not open it.

(Using the IAW 15th Anniversary version on my home-playlist, so it'll be a fairly contemporary live version. We could do with LTL on DVD again, too, at that!)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: MirzekDT on July 04, 2011, 03:44:26 PM
Change Endless Sacrifice for Stream Of Consciousness or Honor Thy Father and it's one of the possibilities of the best setlists ever :laugh:
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tjanuranus on July 04, 2011, 03:44:39 PM
if i don't hear Metropolis part 1 on this US tour i'm going to cry forever. Not a chopped up or medley version. THe REAL THING. CMON!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Jaffa on July 04, 2011, 03:44:49 PM
This setlist has four songs I consider to be top ten DT songs for me.  

I think I'm pleased.

Also, apparently, JLB 'nailed' the F#.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: bss4life15 on July 04, 2011, 03:44:59 PM
(https://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n617/bss4life5/5353_awww20yeah.jpg)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: zxlkho on July 04, 2011, 03:45:09 PM
I think I may go see them when they tour the US.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: TJPNET on July 04, 2011, 03:45:35 PM
That's a damn good setlist. I have some hope that I will see TCOT live now.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Blackfield on July 04, 2011, 03:45:41 PM
Medley is more MP
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: cyberdrummer on July 04, 2011, 03:46:35 PM
"he nailed it ;p "
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: petrucci07 on July 04, 2011, 03:46:56 PM
"he nailed it ;p "

No way
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: John94 on July 04, 2011, 03:47:08 PM
The F#??!!?

Neeed tooo seee.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tri.ad on July 04, 2011, 03:47:12 PM
Daaang.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tjanuranus on July 04, 2011, 03:47:20 PM
Didn't JP say he HATES medley's?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 03:47:28 PM
"he nailed it ;p "
:tup :metal :metal :yarr :yarr
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on July 04, 2011, 03:47:40 PM
It happened!!!  :metal :metal :metal

(https://fc06.deviantart.net/fs37/f/2008/272/a/4/James_LaBrie_by_ED_Minstrel_Chief.gif)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Martinman300 on July 04, 2011, 03:48:15 PM
LTL just made me squeal with excitement a bit.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: petrucci07 on July 04, 2011, 03:48:34 PM
So is that the last song then?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: pianoman on July 04, 2011, 03:48:38 PM
it's official, DREAM THEATER IS BAAAAAACCCCKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: perfectchaos180 on July 04, 2011, 03:48:42 PM
This experience is why I love message boards!  :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Scooterfruit on July 04, 2011, 03:48:47 PM
Didn't JP say he HATES medley's?

He fuckin hates when Rush does medley's...
why don't they play the whole damn song?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: BRGM on July 04, 2011, 03:48:56 PM
This is a huge moment in DT history
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: petrucci07 on July 04, 2011, 03:49:25 PM
This is a huge moment in DT history

How?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: zxlkho on July 04, 2011, 03:49:44 PM
I NEED to see a video of LtL
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: BRGM on July 04, 2011, 03:50:10 PM
This is a huge moment in DT history

How?

Because rumors have said, he nailed the F#
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Infinite Cactus on July 04, 2011, 03:50:29 PM
I'm still curious about the backing vocal situation.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: petrucci07 on July 04, 2011, 03:50:34 PM
This is a huge moment in DT history

How?

Because rumors have said, he nailed the F#

Ah yes, of course, my bad
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Martinman300 on July 04, 2011, 03:50:40 PM
he usually does to be fair
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: juzzwuzzz on July 04, 2011, 03:50:56 PM
Are they finished yet... or can we expect another song?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on July 04, 2011, 03:51:08 PM
I NEED to see a video of LtL

There have better be one! Otherwise, heads will be cut, for James's sake!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: IdoSC on July 04, 2011, 03:51:20 PM
"he nailed it ;p "
He did?!

OMG I NEED VIDEOS OMGGGGG
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: MetropolisxPt1 on July 04, 2011, 03:51:20 PM
Great setlist! i knew they would pull out LTL with MM. I'm definately seeing DT next time they're close.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: zxlkho on July 04, 2011, 03:51:28 PM
he usually does to be fair
Well they rarely play it...
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 03:51:45 PM
Is this the end?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: zxlkho on July 04, 2011, 03:52:12 PM
Watch them add ACOS just for shits and gigs.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: bss4life15 on July 04, 2011, 03:52:15 PM
Is this the end?
Nope You Not Me is next
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Knguro on July 04, 2011, 03:52:28 PM
it's official, DREAM THEATER IS BAAAAAACCCCKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!

Amen brothers and sisters!!!!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Hampster69 on July 04, 2011, 03:52:32 PM
damn great setlist!
hope tomorrow in verona it's gonna be something similar.  :metal

p.s. are we too hopeful if 3 of us go on a 400km trip hoping we can buy tickets there at the venue?  :facepalm:
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tgstk2 on July 04, 2011, 03:52:41 PM
This setlist has four songs I consider to be top ten DT songs for me.  

I think I'm pleased.

Also, apparently, JLB 'nailed' the F#.
Pics or it didnt gappen.. I find web odd on the setlist for a festival lies mirror 6.00 would be better
Great setlist though dt is live again,,,,,,!,
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on July 04, 2011, 03:53:16 PM
There is actually time for Spirit... 7/8 minutes...
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: John94 on July 04, 2011, 03:53:47 PM
Did you get the F#?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: bertoltus on July 04, 2011, 03:53:57 PM
Could this be the end?
FTFY
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: robwebster on July 04, 2011, 03:54:40 PM
This is a huge moment in DT history

How?

Because rumors have said, he nailed the F#

Ah yes, of course, my bad
And, more saliently, all that "first gig with a brand new lineup" stuff. Brave new world.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: RoeDent on July 04, 2011, 03:54:51 PM
Apparently he nailed the F#  :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: sfam2112 on July 04, 2011, 03:54:57 PM
There is actually time for Spirit... 7/8 minutes...

Yeah...but after Learning to Live? ;) :P
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: petrucci07 on July 04, 2011, 03:55:04 PM
This is a huge moment in DT history

How?

Because rumors have said, he nailed the F#

Ah yes, of course, my bad
And, more saliently, all that "first gig with a brand new lineup" stuff.

Indeed
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: antigoon on July 04, 2011, 03:55:14 PM
I'm pretty sure JLB nailed Learning to Live every time they played it on the Octavarium tour as well. What's the big deal?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: MetropolisxPt1 on July 04, 2011, 03:55:15 PM
This setlist has four songs I consider to be top ten DT songs for me.  

I think I'm pleased.

Also, apparently, JLB 'nailed' the F#.
Pics or it didnt gappen.. I find web odd on the setlist for a festival lies mirror 6.00 would be better
Great setlist though dt is live again,,,,,,!,
"he nailed it ;p "
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: cyberdrummer on July 04, 2011, 03:55:22 PM
Show's over. What a setlist!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on July 04, 2011, 03:55:30 PM
Apparently he nailed the F#  :metal

They said it was short but intense.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: petrucci07 on July 04, 2011, 03:55:48 PM
There is actually time for Spirit... 7/8 minutes...

Not gonna happen, broseph
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Jamesman42 on July 04, 2011, 03:56:03 PM
1. Under A Glass Moon
2. These Walls
3. Forsaken
4. Endless Sacrifice
Drum Solo
5. Ytse Jam
6. Peruvian Skies
7. The Great Debate
8. On the Backs of Angels
9. Caught In A Web
10. Through My Words
11. Fatal Tragedy
12. The Count of Tuscany
----------------------------------
13. Learning to Live

That is one kick ass setlist! Soooooo much better than the last few tours.

Edit: Besides Forsaken, but every setlist needs a piss break song.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: perfectchaos180 on July 04, 2011, 03:56:37 PM
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/dream-theater/2011/ippodromo-capannelle-rome-italy-53d36b01.html

dat Pie Chart (and its even more skewed because of through my words/fatal tragedy being two songs)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: zxlkho on July 04, 2011, 03:57:30 PM
Do you usually have to piss by the third song?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 03:57:45 PM
Great setlist!!
Thank You Guys for this evening, especially for those who were updating the setlist so quick ;) To the next one!!  :metal :metal :metal Good night!!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: robwebster on July 04, 2011, 03:58:06 PM
Do you usually have to piss by the third song?
Gamma Ray was the opening act.

Just saying. I imagine a fair few drinks were had by all.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on July 04, 2011, 03:58:28 PM
I'm not the spam guy, but I wanna make sure that everyone here with a facebook account like this page  :rollin

https://www.facebook.com/woahwoahwaah
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Zook on July 04, 2011, 03:58:38 PM
1. Under A Glass Moon
2. These Walls
3. Forsaken
4. Endless Sacrifice
Drum Solo
5. Ytse Jam
6. Peruvian Skies
7. The Great Debate
8. On the Backs of Angels
9. Caught In A Web
10. Through My Words
11. Fatal Tragedy
12. The Count of Tuscany
----------------------------------
13. Learning to Live

That is one kick ass setlist! Soooooo much better than the last few tours.

Edit: Besides Forsaken, but every setlist needs a piss break song.

Forsaken isn't that bad, but I agree it's the low point of the set.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wolfking on July 04, 2011, 03:59:24 PM
Do you usually have to piss by the third song?
Gamma Ray was the opening act.

Just saying. I imagine a fair few drinks were had by all.

Seeing DT and the Rays together would have been amazing!!!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: IdoSC on July 04, 2011, 03:59:26 PM
I'm pretty sure JLB nailed Learning to Live every time they played it on the Octavarium tour as well. What's the big deal?
They haven't played the song besides being a part of a medley since 2007. I personally missed it :)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: robwebster on July 04, 2011, 04:00:05 PM
I'm not the spam guy, but I wanna make sure that everyone here with a facebook account like this page  :rollin

https://www.facebook.com/woahwoahwaah
Someone on that page has set her name on facebook as "Francesca LaBrie." She has also listed James LaBrie as one of the "people who inspire her."

...Specifically, at number fourteen.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on July 04, 2011, 04:00:47 PM
I'm not the spam guy, but I wanna make sure that everyone here with a facebook account like this page  :rollin

https://www.facebook.com/woahwoahwaah
Someone on that page has set her name on facebook as "Francesca LaBrie." She has also listed James LaBrie as one of the "people who inspire her."

...Specifically, at number fourteen.

Oh, yeah! She is quite famous among italian DT fans!  :D
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: ariich on July 04, 2011, 04:03:15 PM
I really like Forsaken. I'd say the low points are Endless Sacrifice and Caught in a Web, but even those are decent live. Very solid set!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Jaffa on July 04, 2011, 04:05:46 PM
I really like Forsaken.

:)

I'd say the low points (...) Caught in a Web

:(
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on July 04, 2011, 04:06:57 PM
I really like Forsaken. I'd say the low points are Endless Sacrifice and Caught in a Web, but even those are decent live. Very solid set!

Agreed. But the high points of the set are probably among the highest of all.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: sfam2112 on July 04, 2011, 04:09:13 PM
Any word on how the backing vocals were done?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: ariich on July 04, 2011, 04:09:20 PM
I really like Forsaken.

:)

I'd say the low points (...) Caught in a Web

:(
Hey, it's all relative. CIAW is still a solid enough 7/10 song for me. I just don't find it that exciting, although it's pretty good live.

ES is fairly mediocre, although again it's quite fun live.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: VioletS16 on July 04, 2011, 04:09:35 PM
Wowee! I can't wait until the vids start popping up!!
I really hope someone got LTL on tape...dat F#  :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Infinite Cactus on July 04, 2011, 04:10:03 PM
Any word on how the backing vocals were done?
For some reason, this is question I most want the answer to.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Zook on July 04, 2011, 04:10:54 PM
I really like Forsaken. I'd say the low points are Endless Sacrifice and Caught in a Web, but even those are decent live. Very solid set!

I don't listen to CIAW much, but I still think it's a great song, as is Endless Sacrifice. That instrumental section :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: taboune on July 04, 2011, 04:11:34 PM
1. Under A Glass Moon  :metal
2. These Walls  :facepalm:
3. Forsaken  ok kinda
4. Endless Sacrifice  :metal
Drum Solo  :metal
5. Ytse Jam  :metal
6. Peruvian Skies  :metal
7. The Great Debate  :metal
8. On the Backs of Angels  :metal
9. Caught In A Web  :metal
10. Through My Words  :metal
11. Fatal Tragedy  :metal
12. The Count of Tuscany ok
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13. Learning to Live  :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: cyberdrummer on July 04, 2011, 04:11:46 PM
Any word on how the backing vocals were done?

I've asked again, still no reply I'm afraid.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on July 04, 2011, 04:12:06 PM
I really hope someone got LTL on tape...dat F#  :metal

Something has definitely been caught :) I hope you don't mind loud crowds  :laugh:
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: sfam2112 on July 04, 2011, 04:12:20 PM
Ok. Thanks. :)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: ResultsMayVary on July 04, 2011, 04:12:57 PM
1. Under A Glass Moon
2. These Walls
3. Forsaken
4. Endless Sacrifice
Drum Solo
5. Ytse Jam
6. Peruvian Skies
7. The Great Debate
8. On the Backs of Angels
9. Caught In A Web
10. Through My Words
11. Fatal Tragedy
12. The Count of Tuscany
----------------------------------
13. Learning to Live

That is one kick ass setlist! Soooooo much better than the last few tours.

Edit: Besides Forsaken, but every setlist needs a piss break song.

The drum solo is where the piss break would be. The drummers aren't offended then. :)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Stonestef on July 04, 2011, 04:13:47 PM
someone mentioned that he has a video.can you post it?or if it's against the rules,at least pm me? ::)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Zook on July 04, 2011, 04:16:03 PM
1. Under A Glass Moon  :2metal:
2. These Walls   :)
3. Forsaken   :smiley:
4. Endless Sacrifice  :2metal:
Drum Solo   :smiley:
5. Ytse Jam  :metal
6. Peruvian Skies    :)
7. The Great Debate  :2metal:
8. On the Backs of Angels  :metal
9. Caught In A Web  :metal
10. Through My Words   :)
11. Fatal Tragedy  :metal
12. The Count of Tuscany :2metal:
----------------------------------
13. Learning to Live  :2metal:
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: cyberdrummer on July 04, 2011, 04:17:27 PM
Re backing vocals: "They didn't stand out, looked like JP. Tuscany sounded weird, James singing high, couldn't hear low".
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Jaffa on July 04, 2011, 04:17:43 PM
I really like Forsaken.

:)

I'd say the low points (...) Caught in a Web

:(
Hey, it's all relative. CIAW is still a solid enough 7/10 song for me. I just don't find it that exciting, although it's pretty good live.

ES is fairly mediocre, although again it's quite fun live.

I'm not actually offended, don't worry.  It was just funny, because when I first started reading the post, I went, "Damn right, Ariich!"  And then I want, "Aw, dammit, Ariich."  :P
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: IdoSC on July 04, 2011, 04:18:31 PM
Any word on how the backing vocals were done?
For some reason, this is question I most want the answer to.
I don't see any song there that actually needs backing vocals (other than maybe Petrucci filling in for 1 line or two).
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Jamesman42 on July 04, 2011, 04:18:32 PM
Do you usually have to piss by the third song?

I'll make it work somehow, or just piss my pants.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on July 04, 2011, 04:19:11 PM
Italy loves Dream Theater!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ct-crgMEqqk  (not a video of the concert, but very cool as well, check it out ;) )
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Infinite Cactus on July 04, 2011, 04:20:03 PM
Any word on how the backing vocals were done?
For some reason, this is question I most want the answer to.
I don't see any song there that actually needs backing vocals (other than maybe Petrucci filling in for 1 line or two).

None of them need them, it would just be nice to have them.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: MasterLomaxus on July 04, 2011, 04:20:11 PM
Any word on how the backing vocals were done?
For some reason, this is question I most want the answer to.
I don't see any song there that actually needs backing vocals (other than maybe Petrucci filling in for 1 line or two).

Fatal Tragedy

Edit:  Yeah I guess none of them need them, but it would be nice.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: ResultsMayVary on July 04, 2011, 04:20:21 PM
If anyone has any videos, please post!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: VioletS16 on July 04, 2011, 04:25:24 PM
Are they done now??
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Jamesman42 on July 04, 2011, 04:30:18 PM
MP said no bootlegs.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Elite on July 04, 2011, 04:31:38 PM
Wow, what a setlist! Soo pumped for next saturday now!  :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on July 04, 2011, 04:33:49 PM
MP said no bootlegs.

Members of the Parliament have no legal authority on this subject.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Dreamer81 on July 04, 2011, 04:38:33 PM
How was mangini performance, I'm dying to know about this!!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: ResultsMayVary on July 04, 2011, 04:46:14 PM
MP said no bootlegs.
Since when does MP have authority over DT stuff now?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: sneakyblueberry on July 04, 2011, 04:48:56 PM
MP said no bootlegs.
Since when does MP have authority over DT stuff now?

Just a wee joke, there.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: PixelDream on July 04, 2011, 04:50:33 PM
Wow, that's awesome. I really really dig this setlist, that's the most Dream Theater-ish setlist I've seen in a while.

 All of those songs are great except Forsaken. That one's okay, so no biggie. OTBOA holds up well against a lot of those classic DT tracks.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: setrataeso on July 04, 2011, 04:54:59 PM
Archive has been updated.
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=7491.0
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Florinator on July 04, 2011, 05:04:58 PM
Can we get a review please? How was Mangini? I'm dying to know some details...
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: DreamerTV on July 04, 2011, 05:18:56 PM
Firsts comments are talking about a phenomenal Mike Mangini... And JMX fall during Ytse Jam, but not verified yet
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on July 04, 2011, 05:22:57 PM
apart from endless sacrifice that setlist is killer

These Walls? Ytse Jam? YES PLEASE
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: VioletS16 on July 04, 2011, 05:25:11 PM
Firsts comments are talking about a phenomenal Mike Mangini... And JMX fall during Ytse Jam, but not verified yet
:lol you mean JMX might have fallen during the Ytse Jam?
Holy crap that's awesome  :lol he is like the last person you'd expect to fall! I know I probably shouldn't laugh but just... :rollin
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: DreamerTV on July 04, 2011, 05:29:49 PM
Firsts comments are talking about a phenomenal Mike Mangini... And JMX fall during Ytse Jam, but not verified yet
:lol you mean JMX might have fallen during the Ytse Jam?
Holy crap that's awesome  :lol he is like the last person you'd expect to fall! I know I probably shouldn't laugh but just... :rollin

As i said, dunno if it's true...
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: VioletS16 on July 04, 2011, 05:31:57 PM
Firsts comments are talking about a phenomenal Mike Mangini... And JMX fall during Ytse Jam, but not verified yet
:lol you mean JMX might have fallen during the Ytse Jam?
Holy crap that's awesome  :lol he is like the last person you'd expect to fall! I know I probably shouldn't laugh but just... :rollin

As i said, dunno if it's true...

Where did you read it??
And even if it isn't, the thought is still funny.  :)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: MetropolisxPt1 on July 04, 2011, 05:34:39 PM
I really hope someone got LTL on tape...dat F#  :metal

Something has definitely been caught :) I hope you don't mind loud crowds  :laugh:
Rome is always a great crowd every bootleg ive heard from rome the crowd sings so loud to Voices its insane.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: skydivingninja on July 04, 2011, 05:36:17 PM
THESE WALLS?
UNDER A GLASS MOON?
PERUVIAN SKIES?
YTSE JAM?
THE GREAT DEBATE?
LEARNING TO LIVE?

HOLY FUCK THEY BETTER BRING THESE FUCKING SONGS TO AMERICA
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: DreamerTV on July 04, 2011, 05:39:11 PM
Firsts comments are talking about a phenomenal Mike Mangini... And JMX fall during Ytse Jam, but not verified yet
:lol you mean JMX might have fallen during the Ytse Jam?
Holy crap that's awesome  :lol he is like the last person you'd expect to fall! I know I probably shouldn't laugh but just... :rollin

As i said, dunno if it's true...


Where did you read it??
And even if it isn't, the thought is still funny.  :)

On an Italian fb fanpage... It's a comment by a guy who was there, but, you know how this things work sometimes
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Florinator on July 04, 2011, 05:49:37 PM
I just found this.

Warning: watching the following video may cause repeated orgasms...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNzHlCApjHg
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: chard on July 04, 2011, 05:50:41 PM
Huzzah!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNzHlCApjHg

Half of the audience is recording the show on their cellphones. Let's hope some good footage shows up soon!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Knguro on July 04, 2011, 05:51:19 PM
I just found this.

Warning: watching the following video may cause repeated orgasms...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNzHlCApjHg


OMG OMG OMG OMG thnks thnks thnks!!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: chard on July 04, 2011, 05:52:20 PM
Ack! Beat me to it!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: VioletS16 on July 04, 2011, 05:55:19 PM
OK OK OK
I have to ask this...I must...

How bad is James's hair??  :( I'm sorry, I must know.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Knguro on July 04, 2011, 05:55:58 PM
MM is the shit!, he is just in another level, apparently he brought the crowd crazy. Thnks DT what a great choice!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Knguro on July 04, 2011, 05:58:10 PM
OK OK OK
I have to ask this...I must...

How bad is James's hair??  :( I'm sorry, I must know.
hahaha ohhh girls, who cares! ... ... ... ... ... meeeh im just kidding i dont know.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: VioletS16 on July 04, 2011, 05:59:53 PM
LOL I looked at the vid and it was an instrumental  :facepalm:
Now the tension is WORSE
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: DreamerTV on July 04, 2011, 06:02:48 PM
They are all talking about a great performance by JAMES LABRIE!!!!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: VioletS16 on July 04, 2011, 06:04:30 PM
They are all talking about a great performance by JAMES LABRIE!!!!
Great to hear James is doing well! He's had a great rest for his voice, and I'm sure it's paid off greatly.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Metabog on July 04, 2011, 06:04:40 PM
Mike Mangini owned that solo. The crowd seems oddly silent like they're watching his every move.

Also, his drums sound amazing with that nice snare reverb.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: purpleplanet10 on July 04, 2011, 06:08:37 PM
Drum Solo & Ytse Jam beginning
https://youtu.be/DNzHlCApjHg
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: abydos on July 04, 2011, 06:20:04 PM
Sounds like a great setlist, with the exception of TCOT, TW and Forsa-KEN.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tjanuranus on July 04, 2011, 06:27:07 PM
Sounds like a great setlist, with the exception of TCOT, TW and Forsa-KEN.

WHOA WHAO.... I hope TW doesn't stand for These Walls. If it does that sentence doesn't compute. That's the one song i've never seen live that i would kill to see!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Gadough on July 04, 2011, 06:32:27 PM
I'm not actually offended, don't worry.  It was just funny, because when I first started reading the post, I went, "Damn right, Ariich!"  And then I want, "Aw, dammit, Ariich."  :P

I think that's how most people react to Rich's posts. :neverusethis:
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tjanuranus on July 04, 2011, 06:51:42 PM
how is it that's the only video up so far? WHAT the hell?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: ResultsMayVary on July 04, 2011, 06:52:52 PM
I know its hard to judge before a great quality video, but MM's drums sound fucking AMAZING! :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: ResultsMayVary on July 04, 2011, 06:53:33 PM
how is it that's the only video up so far? WHAT the hell?
It's only been a few hours. I'd give it another 3 or 4 hours and we'll have several videos to watch!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Florinator on July 04, 2011, 06:53:55 PM
I know its hard to judge before a great quality video, but MM's drums sound fucking AMAZING! :metal

Amen! I fully agree!  :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: ResultsMayVary on July 04, 2011, 06:54:33 PM
MP said no bootlegs.
Since when does MP have authority over DT stuff now?

Just a wee joke, there.
With the amount of mis-information floating around about everything, it was hard to tell if he was serious without sarcasm green. haha.  :lol

But then I saw Jamesman was the poster and then I should have known better!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: VioletS16 on July 04, 2011, 06:58:00 PM
:( Is this the only vid we are gonna get???
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Buckethead on July 04, 2011, 07:01:48 PM
I almost hope one of the songs on the new album is a drum solo.
Then everyone in Europe can sing along with all the drum parts hahaha.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: ReaPsTA on July 04, 2011, 07:01:57 PM
:( Is this the only vid we are gonna get???

With any luck, a bootlegger is mixing his recordings as we type.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: mrjazzguitar on July 04, 2011, 07:03:18 PM
wow they sound AMAZING. the setlist is phenomenal. I can't wait to see them in NY!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: ResultsMayVary on July 04, 2011, 07:03:59 PM
:( Is this the only vid we are gonna get???

With any luck, a bootlegger is mixing his recordings as we type.
I think someone posted in the Tour section that they knew someone who would be recording the show. I think wasteland made that comment. :)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: TAC on July 04, 2011, 07:05:48 PM
Show's over. What a setlist!
Every album represented!
Very nicely done.


Nice work Cyberdrummer!
Thank you.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Dr. DTVT on July 04, 2011, 07:08:17 PM
THESE WALLS?
UNDER A GLASS MOON?
PERUVIAN SKIES?
YTSE JAM?
THE GREAT DEBATE?
LEARNING TO LIVE?

HOLY FUCK THEY BETTER BRING THESE FUCKING SONGS TO AMERICA

This man...motherfucking this.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: yesrushdt on July 04, 2011, 07:18:00 PM
Under A Glass Moon (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIIEHqLxZgI)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: ResultsMayVary on July 04, 2011, 07:22:03 PM
Under A Glass Moon (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIIEHqLxZgI)
Sounds great!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: chrisbDTM on July 04, 2011, 07:25:11 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX-zt_o-7WA

Learning To Live!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: chrisbDTM on July 04, 2011, 07:26:31 PM
learning to live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX-zt_o-7WA
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: ResultsMayVary on July 04, 2011, 07:30:25 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX-zt_o-7WA

Learning To Live!
Great sound!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Kotowboy on July 04, 2011, 07:32:19 PM
Nice !  :omg:
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: FallTempest on July 04, 2011, 07:32:31 PM
That f# was ever so iffy  :D First show on the tour though!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Jaffa on July 04, 2011, 07:32:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX-zt_o-7WA

Learning To Live!

:caffeine:
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: ResultsMayVary on July 04, 2011, 07:37:13 PM
Nice !  :omg:
This! He absolutely NAILED it!  :hefdaddy
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: chrisbDTM on July 04, 2011, 07:37:59 PM
Under A Glass Moon (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIIEHqLxZgI)

check out the JM move before the guitar solo
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Kotowboy on July 04, 2011, 07:40:01 PM
Timestamp please :)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: chrisbDTM on July 04, 2011, 07:40:49 PM
5:28
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Nic35 on July 04, 2011, 07:41:27 PM
Under A Glass Moon (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIIEHqLxZgI)

check out the JM move before the guitar solo
:metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wammabe on July 04, 2011, 07:43:29 PM
I would really like to see On The Backs Of Angels live.  :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: yesrushdt on July 04, 2011, 07:44:23 PM
I would really like to see On The Backs Of Angels live.  :metal

It can't be too far behind at the rate the concert vids are being uploaded. ;)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: ResultsMayVary on July 04, 2011, 07:44:49 PM
I would really like to see On The Backs Of Angels live.  :metal
I think we'll have it in a few hours. These vids are going up extremely quick!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: chrisbDTM on July 04, 2011, 07:45:59 PM
also sick inception music as the intro before UAGM
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: TheGreatPretender on July 04, 2011, 07:46:47 PM
What a terriffic job. Wow. I can't wait to see them live next.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Blazinarps on July 04, 2011, 07:47:46 PM
Are you guys kidding about these sounding great? All I can hear is the drums distorting the speakers, wind, and Italians singing.  (:metal)
Obviously, it's safe to assume the performances are great, but I can't listen to these videos. Can't wait to hear a clearer video, and hopefully one that's closer to the stage!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: TheGreatPretender on July 04, 2011, 07:51:48 PM
Are you guys kidding about these sounding great? All I can hear is the drums distorting the speakers, wind, and Italians singing.  (:metal)
Obviously, it's safe to assume the performances are great, but I can't listen to these videos. Can't wait to hear a clearer video, and hopefully one that's closer to the stage!

I don't think that's the point. But even through the mic of the camcorder, you can clearly hear what every member is playing. So it's safe to say they sound good.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: ResultsMayVary on July 04, 2011, 07:52:13 PM
Are you guys kidding about these sounding great? All I can hear is the drums distorting the speakers, wind, and Italians singing.  (:metal)
Obviously, it's safe to assume the performances are great, but I can't listen to these videos. Can't wait to hear a clearer video, and hopefully one that's closer to the stage!
The learning to live video has amazing sound. The others are not as great. haha.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wammabe on July 04, 2011, 07:53:09 PM
Are you guys kidding about these sounding great? All I can hear is the drums distorting the speakers, wind, and Italians singing.  (:metal)
Obviously, it's safe to assume the performances are great, but I can't listen to these videos. Can't wait to hear a clearer video, and hopefully one that's closer to the stage!

xD Its all we have.
The Learning to Live vid wasn't bad compared to the others. Anyways, isn't a live album supposed to come out for the upcoming tour or something?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: rush-signals on July 04, 2011, 07:53:51 PM
I bet MM had major butterlies as the show started. Kind of like when Neil Peart first returned to touring he was very nervous.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Blazinarps on July 04, 2011, 07:58:15 PM
Are you guys kidding about these sounding great? All I can hear is the drums distorting the speakers, wind, and Italians singing.  (:metal)
Obviously, it's safe to assume the performances are great, but I can't listen to these videos. Can't wait to hear a clearer video, and hopefully one that's closer to the stage!

xD Its all we have.
The Learning to Live vid wasn't bad compared to the others. Anyways, isn't a live album supposed to come out for the upcoming tour or something?

It's just not good enough for me, and I've listened to bad DT before.  I'll wait until I hear something that isn't so mushy to me.  I could hear a little bit on the LtL acoustic section. That didn't sound so bad.  As far as the live dvd for this tour, I would have to assume that is a slam dunk.  They didn't do one for the last album, the dvd before that was basically thrown together production wise.  Score was the last good dvd they made, and that was 06.  This seems like the perfect time for a Budokan/Score type dvd/blu-ray. September can't come fast enough!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: cookienut on July 04, 2011, 07:59:13 PM
Fatal Tragedy - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0ba2MX6Pjc

DT Sounding good
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tjanuranus on July 04, 2011, 07:59:37 PM
Hmm.. Labrie is my favorite singer i love his voice in these vids it's a bit rough. Just the first gig probably. CAuse i saw them last summer and he was very good.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Blazinarps on July 04, 2011, 08:03:08 PM
FATAL TRAGEDY What the hell is JR doing to his keyboard?!?!?!?!?!? NEW STAND!!!!  That video sounded better than the rest.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: bss4life15 on July 04, 2011, 08:03:33 PM
I don't know how long JR had the tilting keyboard setup, but i love it
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: rush-signals on July 04, 2011, 08:03:43 PM
Wow Mangini's kit is cool! I love Pearl drums too. I also like that the band seems to groove more with Mangini and he doesn't showboat like Portnoy did. I can't wait to see more close ups of Mangini playing other songs.

Fatal Tragedy - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0ba2MX6Pjc

DT Sounding good
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Blazinarps on July 04, 2011, 08:08:45 PM
Wow Mangini's kit is cool! I love Pearl drums too. I also like that the band seems to groove more with Mangini and he doesn't showboat like Portnoy did. I can't wait to see more close ups of Mangini playing other songs.

Fatal Tragedy - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0ba2MX6Pjc

DT Sounding good

Do different drum companies sound noticeably different from each other?  I know if I heard two guitar tones, I would be able to tell the dif. between a Strat and Les Paul, but it would be totally guessing for me to try tell drums apart.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Slain on July 04, 2011, 08:10:40 PM
It's almost embarrassing how excited this makes me. I cannot wait to see them when they come down to the states.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wammabe on July 04, 2011, 08:13:45 PM
I'm money-less and in Puerto Rico so there's no way I'm going to be able to travel anywhere to see them :-[ DT came here twice but I didn't know DT by then.  :censored
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: rush-signals on July 04, 2011, 08:15:25 PM
I'm sure they do based on material, thickness, coating, etc just like a guitar. But realistically nowadays anything can sound like anything with the technology out there. For example, remember Tom Sawyer, everyone thought it was Ged's Rickenbacker, but it was a Fender Jazz if I remember correctly. Also look at the sounds Lifeson has gotten using one guitar and it sounding like another.

Do different drum companies sound noticeably different from each other?  I know if I heard two guitar tones, I would be able to tell the dif. between a Strat and Les Paul, but it would be totally guessing for me to try tell drums apart.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: antigoon on July 04, 2011, 08:20:01 PM
Fatal Tragedy - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0ba2MX6Pjc

DT Sounding good

I really couldn't help but smile during that. I definitely want to see them when they come around.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: ReaPsTA on July 04, 2011, 08:42:08 PM
Under A Glass Moon (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIIEHqLxZgI)

No weird circus break after the first chorus.

I could get used to this incarnation of DT.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Slain on July 04, 2011, 08:45:31 PM
Did anyone catch that they played "Dream is Collapsing" by Hans Zimmer (from Inception) before the song started? Wouldn't have happened with Portnoy, he disliked the movie  :P
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: snapple on July 04, 2011, 08:51:03 PM
JP's guitar looks smaller than his arms. I mean, by a long shot. He looks like a giant playing a guitar.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: bss4life15 on July 04, 2011, 08:51:48 PM
Under A Glass Moon (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIIEHqLxZgI)

No weird circus break after the first chorus.

I could get used to this incarnation of DT.
I can never understand why people don't like that stuff, i always enjoyed those added things when they played live.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: pogoowner on July 04, 2011, 09:01:09 PM
Under A Glass Moon (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIIEHqLxZgI)

No weird circus break after the first chorus.

I could get used to this incarnation of DT.
I can never understand why people don't like that stuff, i always enjoyed those added things when they played live.
I find those sorts of things cheesy, and they take away from the flow of the song. Maybe I take my music too seriously, but I don't care for random, ridiculous things like that.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: skydivingninja on July 04, 2011, 09:08:22 PM
I'm liking this Mangini drum solo so far.  Wish it was better quality sound-wise.  Like Reap said, I hope a bootlegger's getting a good mix ready. 
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Heretic on July 04, 2011, 09:32:12 PM
Wow, that's a fantastic set list. Really glad to see them play These Walls.

Can't wait to hear the live version of OTBOA!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: mittinagus on July 04, 2011, 09:34:56 PM
I think this one looks and sounds a little better...

MM Solo + Ytse Jam

https://youtu.be/rYWJw8BZGmU

Tin
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Jamesman42 on July 04, 2011, 09:36:23 PM
In the FT video toward the end, JR is able to angle is keyboard to the sides...is that new? I don't think I've seen that before. Really cool thing to do!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Nic35 on July 04, 2011, 09:36:43 PM
Awesome solo :hefdaddy
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: SystematicThought on July 04, 2011, 09:43:50 PM
In the FT video toward the end, JR is able to angle is keyboard to the sides...is that new? I don't think I've seen that before. Really cool thing to do!
That tilting keyboard is kinda trippy. Definately cool!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Jamesman42 on July 04, 2011, 09:45:00 PM
Yeah, I think it's a new thing as well.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wammabe on July 04, 2011, 09:47:02 PM
I think this one looks and sounds a little better...

MM Solo + Ytse Jam

https://youtu.be/rYWJw8BZGmU

Tin

MUCH better! Thanks!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: SystematicThought on July 04, 2011, 09:48:04 PM
I agree, definately has to be new.

I was really surprised with the video screen and overall production. Was this a festival or a normal show?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: theliloutkast on July 04, 2011, 09:56:33 PM
 :hefdaddy They played seven of my top ten Dream Theater songs. Long live Dream Theater :)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: IdoSC on July 04, 2011, 09:56:41 PM
I'm worried a little about James. In the recording, he sounds good at times, and at times it sounds like he struggles...
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Jaffa on July 04, 2011, 09:58:14 PM
I think this one looks and sounds a little better...

MM Solo + Ytse Jam

https://youtu.be/rYWJw8BZGmU

Tin

4:25 - 4:35:  WAT.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: SystematicThought on July 04, 2011, 10:03:37 PM
I'm worried a little about James. In the recording, he sounds good at times, and at times it sounds like he struggles...
I do have to admit, there was a few spots where I was like  :(  But for the most part I was extremely impressed throughout and the positives are far more present than the negatives
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Bolsters on July 04, 2011, 10:20:09 PM
Fucking love this setlist. Holy shit. And not a single MP-penned song :lol
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: WildeSilas on July 04, 2011, 10:25:48 PM
Drum solo at 4:25 I don't what he I can't FUCK ME HOLY FUCKING SHIT
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: ubit on July 04, 2011, 10:27:19 PM
I think this one looks and sounds a little better...

MM Solo + Ytse Jam

https://youtu.be/rYWJw8BZGmU

Tin

4:25 - 4:35:  WAT.


Yeah that section is absolutely bananas...

Those crossovers... never hitting his sticks together seems like a semi-miracle, haha.  Dude's intense. 

Also, playing the YTSE Jam... amazing choice! 
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: KevShmev on July 04, 2011, 10:29:51 PM
Looks like a pretty darn good set list.  Seeing a song from every album is very nice.  Seeing Ytse Jam is awesome, and you can never go wrong classics like Learning to Live, Peruvian Skies, Fatal Tragedy and Caught in a Web.  I can do without Forsaken, but they like it for whatever reason, and if they had to play something from SC, better that than Constant Motion.  These Walls isn't to my liking either, but almost everything else is stellar, so this gets :tup :tup from me.  

And see, writing a good DT set list isn't that hard! ;)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Slain on July 04, 2011, 10:36:23 PM

And see, writing a good DT set list isn't that hard! ;)

 :rollin
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: ddtonfire on July 04, 2011, 10:39:17 PM
*refreshes dime every 10 seconds*
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: KevShmev on July 04, 2011, 10:41:15 PM

And see, writing a good DT set list isn't that hard! ;)

 :rollin

Well, it isn't!  DT has so many good songs, that they could put the ones they play on playing on a tour in a bowl, pick out a dozen or so randomly, and odds are that it would be a good set list at worst.  Despite what I have often said about Portnoy's personality and off the stage persona, I have never been one to dog most of the extra stuff he did for the fans and whatnot, but I always thought the praise for his set list writing was vastly overstated and overrated.  
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: SystematicThought on July 04, 2011, 10:48:56 PM
MP's setlists were starting to get a little stale.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Slain on July 04, 2011, 10:53:05 PM

And see, writing a good DT set list isn't that hard! ;)

 :rollin

Well, it isn't!  DT has so many good songs, that they could put the ones they play on playing on a tour in a bowl, pick out a dozen or so randomly, and odds are that it would be a good set list at worst.  Despite what I have often said about Portnoy's personality and off the stage persona, I have never been one to dog most of the extra stuff he did for the fans and whatnot, but I always thought the praise for his set list writing was vastly overstated and overrated.  

Yeah, I completely agree with you. The only thing that they could add that just might make me implode, is A Change of Seasons in the place of TCOT.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: IdoSC on July 04, 2011, 11:11:00 PM
I'm worried a little about James. In the recording, he sounds good at times, and at times it sounds like he struggles...
I do have to admit, there was a few spots where I was like  :(  But for the most part I was extremely impressed throughout and the positives are far more present than the negatives
Yeah I agree, the tough moments didn't sound too bad. It's probably since it's their first show in a pretty long time.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: IdoSC on July 04, 2011, 11:15:40 PM
Any word on how the backing vocals were done?
For some reason, this is question I most want the answer to.
I don't see any song there that actually needs backing vocals (other than maybe Petrucci filling in for 1 line or two).

None of them need them, it would just be nice to have them.
Lol you get what I mean (I hope you do), none of these songs had significant backing vocals to being with (maybe except TCOT). If they played PoW/ANTR/CM etc I'd be a little worried, but with the songs they played it's just a nice yet minor addition.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: DeanTheater on July 04, 2011, 11:27:47 PM
Amazing set list!  :tup

And from the sound of all the youtube videos very tight. Mangini was amazing with is solo performance/ytsejam
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tgstk2 on July 04, 2011, 11:38:44 PM
I love it when my threads are well read, well replied too.... makes me feel important to the DT community :lol :facepalm:
justkidding ...awaiting bootlegs, quality vids.....and ofcourse the live version of OTBOA....but also reviews of people who been there..
come on you italian people...wake up!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: SystematicThought on July 04, 2011, 11:40:06 PM
come on you italian people...wake up!
:lol That made me laugh for some reason
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: dongringo on July 04, 2011, 11:46:43 PM
Just getting in on the thread for the updates.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tgstk2 on July 04, 2011, 11:49:18 PM
i just checked UAGM (best dt solo eveR)..so i was checking the solo (flawless as ever)....
now when you look at the crowd..the only thing you see is cellphones.... that sucks!

i think for an artists its very boring to look at the backcovers of nokia's, iphones, sony's etc all night...
you attent the first DT show with mm...and than you are not totally into it because you have to look at a little screen the whole night.....and when you come home you realize that the sound is so shitty it's useless...

Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Jamesman42 on July 04, 2011, 11:49:43 PM
MP's setlists were starting to get a little stale.

Agreed.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: ReaPsTA on July 04, 2011, 11:51:43 PM
i just checked UAGM (best dt solo eveR)..so i was checking the solo (flawless as ever)....
now when you look at the crowd..the only thing you see is cellphones.... that sucks!

i think for an artists its very boring to look at the backcovers of nokia's, iphones, sony's etc all night...
you attent the first DT show with mm...and than you are not totally into it because you have to look at a little screen the whole night.....and when you come home you realize that the sound is so shitty it's useless...

I completely agree, but let's face it, we know this because we watched footage taken with a cellphone.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tgstk2 on July 04, 2011, 11:55:11 PM
that's true but back in the day with VHS (pre DVD people...so the 90!)...i have a shitload of PanterA bootelgs on vhs....and those weren't made on a cellphone...but on normal videocameras... in 2011 the good cameras are also small.
1 itialan should have sneaked it in, used it and let the others know so he/she would take care of the bootlegging.

i want a soundboard quality bootleg of this...since it's an italian showl, i hope the maffia is putting some cents in it so we get the quality we deserve....
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on July 04, 2011, 11:59:08 PM
I fucking love the setlist, the energy, the band...this is so promising in so many ways it's ridiculous.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: SystematicThought on July 05, 2011, 12:01:20 AM
I'm surprised there hasn't been some newer fans going: "Where's Constant Motion and Panic Attack. Their hits!!!!!!!"
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on July 05, 2011, 12:02:14 AM
Petrucci probably realizes Panic Attack has been played too much, and Constant Motion is probably going to be off for a while  :lol
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: ReaPsTA on July 05, 2011, 12:04:28 AM
that's true but back in the day with VHS (pre DVD people...so the 90!)...i have a shitload of PanterA bootelgs on vhs....and those weren't made on a cellphone...but on normal videocameras... in 2011 the good cameras are also small.
1 itialan should have sneaked it in, used it and let the others know so he/she would take care of the bootlegging.

i want a soundboard quality bootleg of this...since it's an italian showl, i hope the maffia is putting some cents in it so we get the quality we deserve....

Soundboard recordings of DT pretty much never happen anymore, but I have a feeling someone made a boot.  I mean, how could it have not happened?  Some of the audience stuff is fortunately pretty solid.

Petrucci probably realizes Panic Attack has been played too much, and Constant Motion is probably going to be off for a while  :lol

FOREVER MORE
INTO THE NIGHT
BLISTERING
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Lionheart1827 on July 05, 2011, 12:04:50 AM
Jeez at that setlist!

And holy crap at that solo!

The US tour cannot come soon enough!  :tup
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on July 05, 2011, 12:07:10 AM
Petrucci probably realizes Panic Attack has been played too much, and Constant Motion is probably going to be off for a while  :lol

FOREVER MORE
INTO THE NIGHT
BLISTERING

THEN CAME A CALL
OUR LIVES CHANGED FOREEEEEEVERMORE
INTO THE NIGHT
SCURVY! DREAMS
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tgstk2 on July 05, 2011, 12:07:49 AM
I'm surprised there hasn't been some newer fans going: "Where's Constant Motion and Panic Attack. Their hits!!!!!!!"

someone said........why aren't they playing enter sandman?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Jamesman42 on July 05, 2011, 12:08:05 AM
Petrucci probably realizes Panic Attack has been played too much, and Constant Motion is probably going to be off for a while  :lol

FOREVER MORE
INTO THE NIGHT
BLISTERING

THEN CAME A CALL
OUR LIVES CHANGED FOREEEEEEVERMORE
INTO THE NIGHT
SCURVY! DREAMS

That still makes me laugh on command, especially thinking about how it goes into the riff right after BLISTERING!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: SystematicThought on July 05, 2011, 12:08:25 AM
Petrucci probably was fed up with CM and PA. If it wasn't for Rock Band, those two probably wouldn't have played as much. As a video suggested, MP plays Rock Band, so he's in touch with that side.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Jamesman42 on July 05, 2011, 12:09:28 AM
Well, for CM, I would think that the lack of MP makes it a hard song to pull off live.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: dongringo on July 05, 2011, 12:10:37 AM
Getting in on the thread for the updates.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: SystematicThought on July 05, 2011, 12:11:18 AM
JR should do it
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: ReaPsTA on July 05, 2011, 12:12:09 AM
JR should do it

I'm not sure it's technically feasible, but I'd legitimately enjoy him doing some VP-550 stuff live.

EDIT:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPKjj4putLg

You couldn't see him doing MP's vox?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Adami on July 05, 2011, 12:13:38 AM
Not a single MP lyriced song.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on July 05, 2011, 12:15:25 AM
Not a single MP lyriced song.

Probably just a coincidence...
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: juice on July 05, 2011, 12:17:20 AM
 :omg: :omg: :omg:  F#!!!!

 :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy JLB's back in action!   :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wjc on July 05, 2011, 12:18:17 AM
One from every album, too.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: SystematicThought on July 05, 2011, 12:18:24 AM
JR should do it

I'm not sure it's technically feasible, but I'd legitimately enjoy him doing some VP-550 stuff live.

EDIT:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPKjj4putLg

You couldn't see him doing MP's vox?
The exact video I had in mind. It could give JR some 'FUCKIN BALLS'  :lol
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Jamesman42 on July 05, 2011, 12:21:29 AM
I'd be fine without seeing CM again on tour.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: SystematicThought on July 05, 2011, 12:23:33 AM
As would I. Too overplayed--too mediocre. Sorry to those that like it
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on July 05, 2011, 12:26:54 AM
:omg: :omg: :omg:  F#!!!!

 :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy JLB's back in action!   :metal

At first I though it was kinda sloppy, beacause my mind was stuck with this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngEqilPozN4&t=425, which is the kind of version i usually listen to.

But after a few run through the video, I must say that James' perfomance was more than acceptable  :)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tjanuranus on July 05, 2011, 12:29:13 AM
:omg: :omg: :omg:  F#!!!!

 :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy JLB's back in action!   :metal

At first I though it was kinda sloppy, beacause my mind was stuck with this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngEqilPozN4&t=425, which is the kind of version i usually listen to.

But after a few run through the video, I must say that James' perfomance was more than acceptable  :)

OMG i miss that so much.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: ACID_FOX on July 05, 2011, 12:34:50 AM
Nothing beats James at the end of TKH on Live at the Marquee.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on July 05, 2011, 12:36:54 AM
Nothing beats James at the end of TKH on Live at the Marquee.

You can bet that I have listened to every single bootleg in existence where that part is sung. Most were awesome beyond belief, some were crappy beyond belief  :xbones
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Zydar on July 05, 2011, 12:37:44 AM
Learning To Live :omg:

If they come to Sweden I'm definitely going to see them. I must see LtL at least once before I die.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Beautiful Agony on July 05, 2011, 12:49:40 AM
I hope they don't pass St.Louis like they have since 2004. If they do I will be a sad panda.  :sadpanda:

I must see them!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: energythief on July 05, 2011, 12:55:23 AM
Not a single MP lyriced song.

Probably just a coincidence...

Or a harbinger of legal ramifications to come?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Adami on July 05, 2011, 12:58:48 AM
I hope they don't pass St.Louis like they have since 2004. If they do I will be a sad panda.  :sadpanda:

I must see them!


When I lived there I used to have to go to Chicago to see them, now that I live in Chicago it all works out. So your answer is clearly to come to chicago and see the show with me.


Glad we worked that out.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: DreamerTV on July 05, 2011, 01:00:19 AM
Forsaken
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiNOQRzNKKg
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tjanuranus on July 05, 2011, 01:03:09 AM
jesus that quality is bad!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Beautiful Agony on July 05, 2011, 01:04:55 AM
I hope they don't pass St.Louis like they have since 2004. If they do I will be a sad panda.  :sadpanda:

I must see them!


When I lived there I used to have to go to Chicago to see them, now that I live in Chicago it all works out. So your answer is clearly to come to chicago and see the show with me.


Glad we worked that out.

I would if I could, but I don't have any way of getting there.  :(

 Thank you for the offer though.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: SystematicThought on July 05, 2011, 01:06:40 AM
Adami will pick you up
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: ? on July 05, 2011, 01:11:56 AM
Wow, great and surprising setlist! :omg: If I saw them live, I would be totally satisfied with that kind of set! :tup Maybe the "HUGE DT epic" will be saved for some other show? I don't think LTL is that huge. Or if MM referred to Count, it's rather disappointing...
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tri.ad on July 05, 2011, 02:07:35 AM
Damn, those videos made me very excited for the concert in Vienna.
Title: First Mike Mangini Drum Solo with DT! Watch And Comment!
Post by: wasteland on July 05, 2011, 02:08:06 AM
The title is self explainatory!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kCIYoseYys



Let the discussion begin  :metal
Title: Re: First Mike Mangini Drum Solo with DT! Watch And Comment!
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on July 05, 2011, 02:09:21 AM
Very nice.
Title: Re: First Mike Mangini Drum Solo with DT! Watch And Comment!
Post by: nikatapi on July 05, 2011, 02:10:41 AM
Nice footage, MM is great as always, i only wish the sound quality was better.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on July 05, 2011, 02:12:08 AM
Damn, those videos made me very excited for the concert in Vienna.

It is just my imagination or Vienna does not get picked frequently during the proper tours? (I can only remember summer shows being played in vienna)
Title: Re: First Mike Mangini Drum Solo with DT! Watch And Comment!
Post by: wasteland on July 05, 2011, 02:13:26 AM
Nice footage, MM is great as always, i only wish the sound quality was better.

If something better happens, I'll edit the OP. Anyway, this is still WAAAAY better than the first uploaded video of the solo!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tri.ad on July 05, 2011, 02:15:09 AM
Yeah, Austria isn't very lucky when it comes to that. :lol Four years ago, they played in Linz, and I think they totally skipped the country for the BCASL tour. But since they tend to play in Munich quite often, everything's not lost for me. :biggrin:
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: nikatapi on July 05, 2011, 02:15:59 AM
I dont want to be negative, but watching those videos i felt that LaBrie didn't do so well...
Title: Re: First Mike Mangini Drum Solo with DT! Watch And Comment!
Post by: nikatapi on July 05, 2011, 02:17:31 AM
Nice footage, MM is great as always, i only wish the sound quality was better.

If something better happens, I'll edit the OP. Anyway, this is still WAAAAY better than the first uploaded video of the solo!

Indeed, and thank you very much for posting! :tup
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: DreamerTV on July 05, 2011, 02:19:46 AM
I dont want to be negative, but watching those videos i felt that LaBrie didn't do so well...

Watch them again :)
Given that it was his first gig this year, and that Rome is quite hot in this period, he did quite well
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on July 05, 2011, 02:19:57 AM
I dont want to be negative, but watching those videos i felt that LaBrie didn't do so well...

Same here. On some songs (forsaken) he does great, but I can definitely tell he is struggling in some parts of LTL and UAGM... Consider that it was the first gig in almost a year, the first is always a tough call for singers (and nowadays James is no exception)...
Title: Re: First Mike Mangini Drum Solo with DT! Watch And Comment!
Post by: Mbarak on July 05, 2011, 02:25:36 AM
Very impressive and enjoyable to watch. But would've be much nicer if he interacted more with the fans. I kinda lol'ed when just as the audience started getting into it and clapping with him hitting the cymbals, he started doing those fast snare hits, and everyone just stopped.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: jonny108 on July 05, 2011, 02:25:54 AM
Don't forget people he is 48 now, his voice has been through a hell of alot...it's amazing to say he sang UAGM so well yesterday.  Plus it was the first gig.  James is awesome  :metal ...and DAT F#!!  :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: jonny108 on July 05, 2011, 02:33:41 AM
Endless Sacrifice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75aC9sa4LTE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75aC9sa4LTE)
Title: Re: First Mike Mangini Drum Solo with DT! Watch And Comment!
Post by: jonny108 on July 05, 2011, 02:36:02 AM
Another solo video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kp9PFCZsac (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kp9PFCZsac)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Zydar on July 05, 2011, 02:36:36 AM
Hoping for some nice audio bootleg from this soon.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: cyberdrummer on July 05, 2011, 02:37:14 AM
Endless Sacrifice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75aC9sa4LTE
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on July 05, 2011, 02:38:34 AM
Ok, people, here is a snip of the bootleg that will come in a few weeks (hopefully very few).

https://www.megaupload.com/?d=1NMS0QZW

Take notice that this is the RAW audio stream, and is alrealdy well beyond our most optimistic wishes. I am extremely satisfied with this partial outcome (my friend who taped is just exthatic  :lol), but a good deal of editing will be done in the future. Seems like a great bootleg is on the way to surface!  :tup
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on July 05, 2011, 02:41:19 AM
Endless Sacrifice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75aC9sa4LTE

@cyber: would it be possible to move yesterday's post about the show into this thread? Just to make them easier to find in the future!

---

reaction: thanks!  ;)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: jonny108 on July 05, 2011, 02:44:05 AM
Ok, people, here is a snip of the bootleg that will come in a few weeks (hopefully very few).

https://www.megaupload.com/?d=1NMS0QZW

Take notice that this is the RAW audio stream, and is alrealdy well beyond our most optimistic wishes. I am extremely satisfied with this partial outcome (my friend who taped is just exthatic  :lol), but a good deal of editing will be done in the future. Seems like a great bootleg is on the way to surface!  :tup

Yay  :metal But a few weeks  :sadpanda:
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Aquila Chrysaetos on July 05, 2011, 02:46:01 AM
Damn, those videos made me very excited for the concert in Vienna.
See you there mate!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: aurorablind on July 05, 2011, 02:50:40 AM
Yeah LaBrie didnt sound that good. For those saying the F# was great..what about the rest of the song?  :P
But, still.. First night of the tour. He might get a lot better  :)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: DreamerTV on July 05, 2011, 02:50:56 AM
I remember watching him via streaming at download in 2009 and then i was at the gods of metal a couple of weeks later and it was a total different story...
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: jonny108 on July 05, 2011, 02:53:00 AM
I remember watching him via streaming at download in 2009 and then i was at the gods of metal a couple of weeks later and it was a total different story...

Oh yeah crikey, I watched them at Leeds before the Download show and he was awesome at Leeds but quite bad at download  :-\ 
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Ben_Jamin on July 05, 2011, 02:53:22 AM
DT is on top form....I hope they come to Albuquerque soon. i Just watched the vids from earlier and THEY ARE BACK AND IN TOP FORM...DT is gonna own it
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Martinman300 on July 05, 2011, 03:00:44 AM
James was rocking on ES.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: jonny108 on July 05, 2011, 03:10:59 AM
https://luigiorrufotografia.photoshelter.com/gallery/dream-theater/G0000.UxB9hucMDs (https://luigiorrufotografia.photoshelter.com/gallery/dream-theater/G0000.UxB9hucMDs)

Pictures
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Ben_Jamin on July 05, 2011, 03:15:37 AM
Better to just add links to the setlist....makes things easier :yarr :metal :corn :metal  :censored :censored :censored
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Zydar on July 05, 2011, 03:17:06 AM
Wow, thanks!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: DreamerTV on July 05, 2011, 03:18:29 AM
Ok, people, here is a snip of the bootleg that will come in a few weeks (hopefully very few).

https://www.megaupload.com/?d=1NMS0QZW

Take notice that this is the RAW audio stream, and is alrealdy well beyond our most optimistic wishes. I am extremely satisfied with this partial outcome (my friend who taped is just exthatic  :lol), but a good deal of editing will be done in the future. Seems like a great bootleg is on the way to surface!  :tup


Is it me or James is singing without any vocal effect...?!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Dekost on July 05, 2011, 03:19:58 AM
Incredible setlist.

BTW, Labrie's epic O-FACE

(https://i53.tinypic.com/e6w3r7.jpg)


PS: first post
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on July 05, 2011, 03:19:58 AM
Ok, people, here is a snip of the bootleg that will come in a few weeks (hopefully very few).

https://www.megaupload.com/?d=1NMS0QZW

Take notice that this is the RAW audio stream, and is alrealdy well beyond our most optimistic wishes. I am extremely satisfied with this partial outcome (my friend who taped is just exthatic  :lol), but a good deal of editing will be done in the future. Seems like a great bootleg is on the way to surface!  :tup


Is it me or James is singing without any vocal effect...?!

I had the very same thought... Weird... we'll se tonight.


https://luigiorrufotografia.photoshelter.com/gallery-image/dream-theater/G0000.UxB9hucMDs/I0000c.3iWlFXZp8

This is really demanding a caption  :rollin
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: IdoSC on July 05, 2011, 03:23:46 AM
Yeah LaBrie didnt sound that good. For those saying the F# was great..what about the rest of the song?  :P
But, still.. First night of the tour. He might get a lot better  :)
Actually I thought he sang the rest of the song better than the F# itself.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Zydar on July 05, 2011, 03:25:31 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/9XQxd.jpg)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: aurorablind on July 05, 2011, 03:27:25 AM
James is totally going for the FII-look (plus the beard).
JP is getting so big he's actually looking kind of fat  :lol
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Dekost on July 05, 2011, 03:27:37 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PAdcBUpl7o
On The Backs of Angels.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: nobloodyname on July 05, 2011, 03:33:13 AM
Glad you all enjoyed the updates cyberdrummer provided via myself at the show.

We had a cracking time, setlist was very surprising.

Re the backing vocal question that came up a number of times, I didn't see cyberdrummer asking me return questions about it until after the show. I really only noticed JP doing any vox but, as I said, the harmony line in Tuscany seemed to be missing, eg "I... wanna stay alive" etc, the high was there but the low wasn't. If I remember correctly, they played it that way on the Prog Nation tour but you could clearly hear MP. Could just be that JP was mixed low, of course.

James sounded pretty good throughout the show. Certainly we made less faces about his performance than we did Geddy Lee's when we saw Rush a month ago!

Finally, the second track was definitely These Walls, not The Answer Lies Within (which, as a counterpoint to the opinions earlier in the thread, I would actually have preferred!).

Anyway, there goes my 14th show. Shame the 15th can't be on the upcoming UK tour ;D
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Zydar on July 05, 2011, 03:38:09 AM
Hey, and thanks so very much for your updates throughout the show!
Title: Re: First Mike Mangini Drum Solo with DT! Watch And Comment!
Post by: Bertielee on July 05, 2011, 03:44:31 AM
Another solo video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kp9PFCZsac (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kp9PFCZsac)

Actually, it's very musical : I love his playing on the melodic toms. Better than anything I have seen MP do as solos.

B.Lee
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: jonny108 on July 05, 2011, 03:45:22 AM
On the Backs of Angels

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PAdcBUpl7o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PAdcBUpl7o)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Aquila Chrysaetos on July 05, 2011, 03:50:10 AM
My god Mangini looks rocking!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: jonny108 on July 05, 2011, 03:52:45 AM
These Walls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfhD4emluxw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfhD4emluxw)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on July 05, 2011, 03:56:02 AM
My dream is to have a Dream Theater concert in Blu Ray.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Martinman300 on July 05, 2011, 03:57:23 AM
If that happened i'd probably have to buy a blu ray player.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Zydar on July 05, 2011, 03:59:28 AM
If that happened i'd probably have to buy a blu ray player.

Me too, but I would gladly do it for DT.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: DejaVu on July 05, 2011, 04:01:45 AM
 :censored! The Great debate! Yes! "Turn to the light!" :metal

In other news, On The Backs Of Angels sounds absolutely killer live, I can't wait!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: taboune on July 05, 2011, 04:02:59 AM
man JP is fat i thought Michael Romeo?  :omg:

He should start cutting weight  :yarr
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Mladen on July 05, 2011, 04:03:05 AM
The set list is incredible, they actually played a song from each album.  :metal

Peruvian skies, Learning to live, Under a glass moon, The Great debate, Fatal tragedy, The Count of Tuscany... I just can't wait to hear these masterpieces live.  ;D

Time to spend a whole hour finding youtube videos...  :corn
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on July 05, 2011, 04:04:05 AM
If that happened i'd probably have to buy a blu ray player.

Me too, but I would gladly do it for DT.

Also, they should add a feature where you can watch each member's performance, with or without the track.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: ACID_FOX on July 05, 2011, 04:08:13 AM
Well, Porcupine Tree have a Blu Ray, doesn't seem like that much of a ridiculous idea, and I'd certainly buy it :biggrin:
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Dreamer81 on July 05, 2011, 04:19:06 AM
If that happened i'd probably have to buy a blu ray player.

Me too, but I would gladly do it for DT.

Also, they should add a feature where you can watch each member's performance, with or without the track.

This!! Would be awesome! BTW I'm on my way for Castello Scaligero in Verona, I'm psyched.
Title: Re: First Mike Mangini Drum Solo with DT! Watch And Comment!
Post by: EpicCookie on July 05, 2011, 04:28:16 AM
that's pretty awesome! Can't wait till I finally get to see them live!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: nikatapi on July 05, 2011, 04:29:08 AM
Ok, people, here is a snip of the bootleg that will come in a few weeks (hopefully very few).

https://www.megaupload.com/?d=1NMS0QZW

Take notice that this is the RAW audio stream, and is alrealdy well beyond our most optimistic wishes. I am extremely satisfied with this partial outcome (my friend who taped is just exthatic  :lol), but a good deal of editing will be done in the future. Seems like a great bootleg is on the way to surface!  :tup

Thank you very much! I cant wait to hear the bootleg!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Metabog on July 05, 2011, 04:38:33 AM
Hmm. Looks like JLB is growing his hair out again, as it's now pretty much to his shoulders. Unfortunately, I thought he sounded fairly bad, and that was a pretty weak F#. Was really hoping he'd have some sort of return, as I always do with a new tour. I'd say he needs a bit of reverb/delay, I don't know why they never ever put any effects on him, he'd sound so much better.

Otherwise, it sounds amazing, and Mangini destroys. His drum sound is killer with that nice vibrato.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: cookienut on July 05, 2011, 04:42:14 AM
MM really played the actual tempo of the CD songs by the sound of it. Often MP used to speed things up quite a bit....probably for fun. It's quite refreshing to hear/see the songs at their actual tempo. JLB missed a little but heck, it's the first show.

MM's playing is amazing, there's no way you would think this was his first show. Infact you probably think it's 500th show but the sound of it.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: hipodilski on July 05, 2011, 04:42:47 AM
Ok, people, here is a snip of the bootleg that will come in a few weeks (hopefully very few).

https://www.megaupload.com/?d=1NMS0QZW

Take notice that this is the RAW audio stream, and is alrealdy well beyond our most optimistic wishes. I am extremely satisfied with this partial outcome (my friend who taped is just exthatic  :lol), but a good deal of editing will be done in the future. Seems like a great bootleg is on the way to surface!  :tup

Superb quality! Thanks for this and looking forward to the whole thing.
Title: Re: First Mike Mangini Drum Solo with DT! Watch And Comment!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on July 05, 2011, 04:47:18 AM
that's pretty awesome! Can't wait till I finally get to see them live!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Presence of Frenemies on July 05, 2011, 04:48:40 AM
Hmm. Looks like JLB is growing his hair out again, as it's now pretty much to his shoulders. Unfortunately, I thought he sounded fairly bad, and that was a pretty weak F#. Was really hoping he'd have some sort of return, as I always do with a new tour. I'd say he needs a bit of reverb/delay, I don't know why they never ever put any effects on him, he'd sound so much better.

Otherwise, it sounds amazing, and Mangini destroys. His drum sound is killer with that nice vibrato.

Agreed 100% with this post.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Psy on July 05, 2011, 05:00:06 AM
Oh man. I would kill to see The Great Debate live!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: DejaVu on July 05, 2011, 05:04:29 AM
Found a great video of Under a Glass Moon! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6trdknWA5Tw
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Metabog on July 05, 2011, 05:04:35 AM
Killer setlist, as others have said. Caught in A Web, Ytse Jam, LTL, UAGM all in the same show? It's a classic DT extravaganza.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tri.ad on July 05, 2011, 05:05:01 AM
From what I've seen in the videos, JM isn't as static anymore as he used to be. He seemed fully immersed in the music, and moving along to it. Awesome. Also, his live sound doesn't seem to be as distorted as it was on the previous tour. I like that.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tri.ad on July 05, 2011, 05:09:20 AM
Found a great video of Under a Glass Moon! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6trdknWA5Tw


Great find. I'm absoultely surprised how JM cuts through in the mix. And MM is enjoying it immensely, as it seems.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Zydar on July 05, 2011, 05:22:34 AM
Found a great video of Under a Glass Moon! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6trdknWA5Tw


Oh yeah! :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: DejaVu on July 05, 2011, 05:25:20 AM
I really hope the atmosphere is like that in Wolverhampton, the crowd is amazing! :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: ? on July 05, 2011, 05:26:13 AM
As I said in the other thread, the setlist rules! :metal Glad to see they're playing The Great Debate, These Walls and Ytse Jam again!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: cookienut on July 05, 2011, 05:29:34 AM
Found a great video of Under a Glass Moon! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6trdknWA5Tw


Ha! You can see the absolute joy on Mangini's face when he starts playing. Oh gosh, he really is amazing in this band.

Also the Inception music at the beginning is awesome. Makes me want to watch it again. There so could be a Yo dawg meme here:
"Yo dawg, I heard you like dreams. So we put music from a movie about dreams in Yo dream theater, so you can dream while you dream"
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: jonny108 on July 05, 2011, 05:51:45 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPyWk2ZxdAw&feature=channel_video_title (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPyWk2ZxdAw&feature=channel_video_title)

The Great Debate
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Presence of Frenemies on July 05, 2011, 05:59:18 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPyWk2ZxdAw&feature=channel_video_title (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPyWk2ZxdAw&feature=channel_video_title)

The Great Debate

Now this one shows LaBrie in a much more favorable light. Nice G5 in there.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: OsMosis2259 on July 05, 2011, 06:01:46 AM
ON THE BACKS OF ANGELS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww_txPLKBjY


2:10 , Labrie trips on chord and gets pretty mad  :lol
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: jonny108 on July 05, 2011, 06:03:27 AM
Thats awesome haha just drags it haha...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRJj3n5pBSw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRJj3n5pBSw)

The Count of Tuscany (Dare I say it but Mangini plays this better than Portnoy IMO)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2SoFuYBkBw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2SoFuYBkBw)

Through My Words/Fatal Tragedy
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: TAC on July 05, 2011, 06:11:11 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PAdcBUpl7o
On The Backs of Angels.

Jordan seems a little closer to the drum riser, no?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Lynxo on July 05, 2011, 06:23:58 AM
Learning To Live :omg:

If they come to Sweden I'm definitely going to see them. I must see LtL at least once before I die.

I saw that on the Octavarium tour, with an extended jamming section. :hat

I'm super, super excited for when they return to Sweden, playing more new songs from their CD! :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Presence of Frenemies on July 05, 2011, 06:27:40 AM
TCoT gives us a good idea of the backing vocals question. They just omit Portnoy's growly parts.
Title: Re: First Mike Mangini Drum Solo with DT! Watch And Comment!
Post by: purpleplanet10 on July 05, 2011, 06:32:11 AM
best version i have found
https://youtu.be/rYWJw8BZGmU
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: King Postwhore on July 05, 2011, 06:43:15 AM
Great setlist and I can't wait to see what it will look like when the album comes out.  I'm glad TCOT is still on the setlist.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on July 05, 2011, 06:47:28 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPyWk2ZxdAw&t=345


Life! To! Save! LIIFE (hits F#/G, can't tell)

 :hefdaddy
Title: Re: First Mike Mangini Drum Solo with DT! Watch And Comment!
Post by: OsMosis2259 on July 05, 2011, 07:01:55 AM
He owns
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: jingle.boy on July 05, 2011, 07:03:47 AM
I found this to be a little bit better audio quality of On the Backs of Angels

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww_txPLKBjY

Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Dream Team on July 05, 2011, 07:05:40 AM
oh my goodness oh my goodness what a setlist  :omg:. Of the songs I have yet to hear live, outside of A Change of Seasons the ones I most want are Learning to Live and The Great Debate. Please please JP bring these to the States . . . seriously, that's the best setlist since the 6DOIT tour. Also refreshing not to have PMU or Metropolis for once.

Melancholy side note: first ever DT show without MP behind the kit. The torch has officially been passed . . .
Title: Re: First Mike Mangini Drum Solo with DT! Watch And Comment!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 05, 2011, 07:06:15 AM
The band looked awesome!!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Metabog on July 05, 2011, 07:18:48 AM
Petrucci's constant power stance is so awesome.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: cyberdrummer on July 05, 2011, 07:35:23 AM
I notice they've reverted to the studio version of Fatal Tragedy, abandoning the slightly longer live version they played from LSFNY onwards.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: taboune on July 05, 2011, 07:44:48 AM


First JP WORLD DOMINATION MODE and now MANGINI BIG BANG MODE

THE WORLD IS IN DANGER LOL
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: TAC on July 05, 2011, 07:47:20 AM
Love the tilting keyboard.
Title: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: RudessSolo on July 05, 2011, 08:08:46 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6IOwEjv_PM&hd=1

Enjoy :)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on July 05, 2011, 08:09:21 AM
My dream is to have a Dream Theater concert in Blu Ray.

 :tup  The LTE Blue Ray kicks serious ass ;)  Even more so because I was at the show... :lol
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: chrisbDTM on July 05, 2011, 08:13:51 AM
interesting that they are playing the LSFNY cut scenes during LTL
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on July 05, 2011, 08:14:26 AM
Nice!!!!  I found it kinda weird though that they're showing all the SFAM clips on the vid screen during LTL.
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on July 05, 2011, 08:14:52 AM
interesting that they are playing the LSFNY cut scenes during LTL

Jinx...... :lol
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Knguro on July 05, 2011, 08:15:43 AM
I hope they don't pass St.Louis like they have since 2004. If they do I will be a sad panda.  :sadpanda:

I must see them!


When I lived there I used to have to go to Chicago to see them, now that I live in Chicago it all works out. So your answer is clearly to come to chicago and see the show with me.


Glad we worked that out.


Yeah I traveled 2,000 miles from my country o Chicago at '09 PN tour it was insane proly we'll see us there on this tour. :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: John94 on July 05, 2011, 08:21:57 AM
Is it slightly sad of me to admit to enjoying sitting around with the thread constantly open pressing F5 to see what was played.

Just watching the footage now. Mangini is inhuman. I knew he was phenomenal but the drum solo blew me away. Learning to Live is awesome too. The F# is raw and vibrant, shame its quite short but I can't complain.

Dream Theater look tight, together and back on form.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: chrisbDTM on July 05, 2011, 08:29:43 AM
JP is starting to look like michael romeo
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Presence of Frenemies on July 05, 2011, 08:31:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPyWk2ZxdAw&t=345


Life! To! Save! LIIFE (hits F#/G, can't tell)

 :hefdaddy

G5. Which makes me wonder why he was struggling with like C5 in LtL.
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: lithium112 on July 05, 2011, 08:31:58 AM
haha this was awesome! I was really happy that James hit the F# (and then walked off all casual like to dig holes backstage).
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: RudessSolo on July 05, 2011, 08:37:55 AM
"This is awful! This is awful!"
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: chknptpie on July 05, 2011, 08:39:31 AM
90's = These days  :metal yeah!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: MajorMatt on July 05, 2011, 08:40:50 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPyWk2ZxdAw&t=345


Life! To! Save! LIIFE (hits F#/G, can't tell)

 :hefdaddy

G5. Which makes me wonder why he was struggling with like C5 in LtL.

Because it's much easier to belt out a note on its own rather than sing it 'in phrase'. JLB's range is still there he just seems to struggle more with the sustained, sung high notes - such as the 'pensive fear' verse in TTT and verses in Surrounded.
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: TAC on July 05, 2011, 08:43:26 AM
90's = These days  :metal yeah!

Yes, great treatment with that line.



Great sound on this clip.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Frank on July 05, 2011, 08:45:19 AM
All of these videos make me very, very giddy! I truly hope at least some of these make it to the States. At least TCoT...

...speaking of which, the video for it seems to have been removed. Did anybody save it, or can anybody find another link? I'm not having much luck.
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: wasteland on July 05, 2011, 08:48:26 AM
Holy Jesus, they played the most extended outro, which was put aside after Scenes. It my all time favourite Dream Theater part that I thought had been forever dismissed. Jesus, we're really dreaming   :heart
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: chrisbDTM on July 05, 2011, 08:49:36 AM
i love the 'dream is collapsing' intro into UAGM
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Frank on July 05, 2011, 08:50:30 AM
TCoT Part 1 and 2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=At_rvANsORE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr7AB-ENnLI&feature=channel_video_title
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: Zydar on July 05, 2011, 09:20:57 AM
AWESOME!

I got goosebumps at the end when the audience sang along to the "OOOOOH" part :heart

Although my only complaint was the "Through nature's inflexible grace, I'm learning to live...." instead of "LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIVE!". But that's nitpicking :P
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: wasteland on July 05, 2011, 09:26:42 AM
AWESOME!

I got goosebumps at the end when the audience sang along to the "OOOOOH" part :heart

Although my only complaint was the "Through nature's inflexible grace, I'm learning to live...." instead of "LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIVE!". But that's nitpicking :P

I am the greatest fan of James's high notes, but I think that that little change, together with the fading lights, created something magic.
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: reo73 on July 05, 2011, 09:38:24 AM
I would of shat myself and smeared it on the walls if they had transitioned into the ending part of ACOS like they do in 5 Years IAL.  One of my favorite segues they ever put together.
Title: Re: First Mike Mangini Drum Solo with DT! Watch And Comment!
Post by: Elaitch on July 05, 2011, 09:41:40 AM
Couldn't really make out was he was playing because of the bad sound quality :(
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: wasteland on July 05, 2011, 09:46:13 AM
I would of shat myself and smeared it on the walls if they had transitioned into the ending part of ACOS like they do in 5 Years IAL.  One of my favorite segues they ever put together.

Gotta disagree. Frankenstain's monster was made with limbs taken from the fairest of men, yet the outcome was dreadful. With this, I do not mean to say that the transition LTL > Crimson Sunset transition is dreadful, but that each ending belongs to its own song, and does not work the same way in a different context, and that medleys are ultimately destined to fail, compared to the original songs.  :)
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: TAC on July 05, 2011, 09:47:27 AM
I agree. The only outro on LTL should be its own.
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: VioletS16 on July 05, 2011, 09:50:42 AM
OK GUYS
Now I ask...
WHAT DOES JAMES'S HAIR LOOK LIKE??

 :-X
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: Zydar on July 05, 2011, 09:54:17 AM
(https://i53.tinypic.com/e6w3r7.jpg)
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: IdoSC on July 05, 2011, 09:57:33 AM
AWESOME!

I got goosebumps at the end when the audience sang along to the "OOOOOH" part :heart

Although my only complaint was the "Through nature's inflexible grace, I'm learning to live...." instead of "LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIVE!". But that's nitpicking :P
Honestly that was a HARD setlist for a singer and it's just their first show in this tour, I bet he'll get much better.
Title: Re: First Mike Mangini Drum Solo with DT! Watch And Comment!
Post by: IdoSC on July 05, 2011, 09:58:48 AM
The camera's position as the video begins kinda makes me worried. For a moment there I thought I'm going to watch "A Dramatic DRUM of Events" :P
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: VioletS16 on July 05, 2011, 09:59:22 AM
(https://i53.tinypic.com/e6w3r7.jpg)
How did I know you would do that???
Oh well...it looks great IMO :) It's not short enough to where he looks silly (IMO) but not long enough to wear it drags him down :D

EDIT: I know, I'm weird. It's '98 length, but I like that length a lot.
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: Frank on July 05, 2011, 10:00:00 AM
I absolutely love that James hits the F#. I'm not sure how often he's been able to do it since his vocal accident, but I'm just used to the Live Scenes version, which, while nice, doesn't have the same impact on me that the original does. To hear a new F# is... well, almost a little bit like magic!
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: IdoSC on July 05, 2011, 10:04:41 AM
I absolutely love that James hits the F#. I'm not sure how often he's been able to do it since his vocal accident, but I'm just used to the Live Scenes version, which, while nice, doesn't have the same impact on me that the original does. To hear a new F# is... well, almost a little bit like magic!
Ever since 2004, every single time they played the complete song he hit it IIRC. However, they didn't play the complete song since 2007 (not including 2007. There were a few times where they did perform it that year).
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: tri.ad on July 05, 2011, 10:09:57 AM
Great video, thanks a lot! Shame it doesn't have the full outro (which really makes the song pure magic), but it's still amazing.
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: Scrub206 on July 05, 2011, 10:10:34 AM
As much as i Love JLB, he needs a little fine tuning. but its only the first show. improvements to come! as for the rest of them. Phenomenal!  :metal
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: VioletS16 on July 05, 2011, 10:14:31 AM
As much as i Love JLB, he needs a little fine tuning. but its only the first show. improvements to come! as for the rest of them. Phenomenal!  :metal
I think he sounds fine in this, and wonderful in UAGM. It's the first show, he hasn't done anything like this live in a while, I'm sure things will get much better.
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: reo73 on July 05, 2011, 10:34:48 AM
I would of shat myself and smeared it on the walls if they had transitioned into the ending part of ACOS like they do in 5 Years IAL.  One of my favorite segues they ever put together.

Gotta disagree. Frankenstain's monster was made with limbs taken from the fairest of men, yet the outcome was dreadful. With this, I do not mean to say that the transition LTL > Crimson Sunset transition is dreadful, but that each ending belongs to its own song, and does not work the same way in a different context, and that medleys are ultimately destined to fail, compared to the original songs.  :)

Gotta disagree with your disagreement.  The beauty of the segue is that is allows LTL to complete it's outro but then you get the extra bonus of Crimson Sunset thrown in and the two mold so easily together musically.  I for one love it, sorry you don't but to each his own.
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: zxlkho on July 05, 2011, 10:36:54 AM
James sounded absolutely awful here, but I loved everything else about the performance.
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: wasteland on July 05, 2011, 10:37:05 AM
I would of shat myself and smeared it on the walls if they had transitioned into the ending part of ACOS like they do in 5 Years IAL.  One of my favorite segues they ever put together.

Gotta disagree. Frankenstain's monster was made with limbs taken from the fairest of men, yet the outcome was dreadful. With this, I do not mean to say that the transition LTL > Crimson Sunset transition is dreadful, but that each ending belongs to its own song, and does not work the same way in a different context, and that medleys are ultimately destined to fail, compared to the original songs.  :)


Gotta disagree with your disagreement.  The beauty of the segue is that is allows LTL to complete it's outro but then you get the extra bonus of Crimson Sunset thrown in and the two mold so easily together musically.  I for one love it, sorry you don't but to each his own.

Of course! It is actually good to agree on disagreeing  :lol
Title: Re: First Mike Mangini Drum Solo with DT! Watch And Comment!
Post by: perfectchaos180 on July 05, 2011, 10:48:45 AM
If I was there and after that drum solo I heard those opening notes to Ytse Jam..... I would have been the happiest man alive

Also this made me realize that I never got to see a full on Portnoy solo live :(
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Florinator on July 05, 2011, 10:57:01 AM
The Count of Tuscany (Dare I say it but Mangini plays this better than Portnoy IMO)

I don't mean to start anything, but I feel the same way. I love MP (duh), but I can't believe how good of a match MM is for DT. I think he's more technical than MP (please don't shoot me) and I think personality-wise matches the other guys better. MP was more the bad-ass style rockstar, but think of JP, JM and JR, how different they are. MP was like F this and F that in every other sentence in interviews and the other guys don't even have a tattoo...

I am mega-psyched about this new chapter in DT history.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: chrisbDTM on July 05, 2011, 10:57:54 AM
they should release a video of that show. idk the deal with portnoy gone, but didnt they used to record everything? (audio, stage screen footage)
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: Metabog on July 05, 2011, 11:04:18 AM
That vocal solo was awful. It's a good thing on the album, but it sounds really bad here, you can tell James is like "yeah let's get this over with" and then every time it happens the fans are like "zomg F#" regardless of whether or not it was actually nice to listen to, and then James goes back stage to harass his monkeys or whatever he does back there.

Least they could do is give him a bit of reverb to cover it up a bit, then it would probably sound decent, but it just sounds incredibly out of place in the song now. Someone from the audience might as well have just gone "waaaaa" over the music.

Although, when he comes back with "the way your heart sounds, etc", that actually sounds really good.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Florinator on July 05, 2011, 11:05:43 AM
JP is starting to look like michael romeo

Nah, he's got quite a few more burgers to go to get there  ;)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: ReaPsTA on July 05, 2011, 11:08:15 AM
Is it possible for Rudess to start doing backing vocals?  I knew the lack of MP backing vocals would be weird, but not like this.  Something needs to fill the void.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: WildeSilas on July 05, 2011, 11:11:27 AM
The Count of Tuscany (Dare I say it but Mangini plays this better than Portnoy IMO)

I don't mean to start anything, but I feel the same way. I love MP (duh), but I can't believe how good of a match MM is for DT. I think he's more technical than MP (please don't shoot me) and I think personality-wise matches the other guys better. MP was more the bad-ass style rockstar, but think of JP, JM and JR, how different they are. MP was like F this and F that in every other sentence in interviews and the other guys don't even have a tattoo...

I've noticed that too since the ToT era. The other guys remind me of prog musicians like the guys from Yes or Rush, fairly calm and intellectual. Not that MP isn't a smart guy - he is. But he definitely had more of that party-animal/rockstar vibe going than the other guys. If the new single is any indication, it seems he was pushing for a more "metal" DT as well, while DT's strength has always lain in the diversity of how they mix the two elements. I would bet money that ADTOE will sound way more like I&W and FII than ToT and SC.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: chrisbDTM on July 05, 2011, 11:14:41 AM
never noticed that JM has Geddy Lee foot pedals in front of him. check out at 1:25

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ5v6zmioas
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on July 05, 2011, 11:22:36 AM
lol @ MP forum

"it doesn't feel right"

I don't know if it can feel better that it does right now. The songs were played flawlessly, the band felt happy as ever and things are just that good.  :D
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Florinator on July 05, 2011, 11:30:02 AM
lol @ MP forum

"it doesn't feel right"

I don't know if it can feel better that it does right now. The songs were played flawlessly, the band felt happy as ever and things are just that good.  :D

+ 1,000,000  :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: ReaPsTA on July 05, 2011, 11:32:34 AM
lol @ MP forum

"it doesn't feel right"

I don't know if it can feel better that it does right now. The songs were played flawlessly, the band felt happy as ever and things are just that good.  :D

In fairness, MM is a little more loose and less showy than MP is.  It's definitely different.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: ACID_FOX on July 05, 2011, 11:34:46 AM
People seriously need to get over the fact MP's not in the band anymore...Jesus.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: chrisbDTM on July 05, 2011, 11:37:25 AM
it is the MP forum.... i was surprised at all the MM positivity in the 'SANCTIONED' album thread
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: ThatGuitarGuy on July 05, 2011, 11:46:56 AM
At the end of OTBOA the video screen flashes through a bunch of different countries currency.  Perhaps that confirms that the song is political/economical in nature?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Infinite Cactus on July 05, 2011, 11:57:40 AM
Is it possible for Rudess to start doing backing vocals?  I knew the lack of MP backing vocals would be weird, but not like this.  Something needs to fill the void.
I agree. Although I will say that John Petrucci is doing fine when you can hear him. I feel like he is turned down too low. I think they should get a vocal harmonizer so James could harmonize the melody and the upper harmony, then JP could just do the low harmonies. Ideally, Jordan would sing though.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: snapple on July 05, 2011, 12:12:43 PM
JMX looks so animated in these. Of course, not from the I&W style animated...but he looks like he's having fun!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on July 05, 2011, 12:33:57 PM
lol @ MP forum

"it doesn't feel right"

I don't know if it can feel better that it does right now. The songs were played flawlessly, the band felt happy as ever and things are just that good.  :D

In fairness, MM is a little more loose and less showy than MP is.  It's definitely different.

As someone has already said, I think those MM traits fit the band better than MP's rock show style. People don't go to a Dream Theater concert to see one hell of a show (in terms of production, crowd participation, etc.), in first place  :D
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: yorost on July 05, 2011, 12:50:12 PM
:lol

No kidding.
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: IdoSC on July 05, 2011, 12:53:40 PM
That vocal solo was awful. It's a good thing on the album, but it sounds really bad here, you can tell James is like "yeah let's get this over with" and then every time it happens the fans are like "zomg F#" regardless of whether or not it was actually nice to listen to, and then James goes back stage to harass his monkeys or whatever he does back there.

Least they could do is give him a bit of reverb to cover it up a bit, then it would probably sound decent, but it just sounds incredibly out of place in the song now. Someone from the audience might as well have just gone "waaaaa" over the music.

Although, when he comes back with "the way your heart sounds, etc", that actually sounds really good.
Wow there's some rage over the F# :D

It was nice imo. Not his best, but still fun to listen to.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: iamtheeviltwin on July 05, 2011, 12:54:53 PM
I see Peruvian Skies and Caught in a Web listed on the setlist, those are the only two songs that I can't find video for.  Anyone have better luck than I?  With those my "virtual concert" will be complete until the bootlegs come out.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: chrisbDTM on July 05, 2011, 12:57:09 PM
I see Peruvian Skies and Caught in a Web listed on the setlist, those are the only two songs that I can't find video for.  Anyone have better luck than I?  With those my "virtual concert" will be complete until the bootlegs come out.

theres a video of the PS guitar solo on youtube. but i cant get the link right now
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: IdoSC on July 05, 2011, 12:57:41 PM
I see Peruvian Skies and Caught in a Web listed on the setlist, those are the only two songs that I can't find video for.  Anyone have better luck than I?  With those my "virtual concert" will be complete until the bootlegs come out.

theres a video of the PS guitar solo on youtube. but i cant get the link right now
Yep. No one uploaded CIAW though.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: jonny108 on July 05, 2011, 01:07:55 PM
Someone uploaded them earlier but removed them :/
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: tgstk2 on July 05, 2011, 01:42:09 PM
Great performance funny to see that mm is way more an metal drummer than mp who i guess thought he was......
Seeing dt with mm really gives me new energy and interestin dt.... Even on stage they look more secure.. Different attitutde like .... Fuck u we are dt and we ownnnnnn
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: Fiery Winds on July 05, 2011, 01:46:00 PM
My problem isn't with the F# itself, it's with the notes leading up to it.  JLB is great at a low-mid register and the occasional bursts of high notes, but any sustained singing in between he has trouble locking in tune.
Title: Re: First Mike Mangini Drum Solo with DT! Watch And Comment!
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 05, 2011, 01:51:33 PM
Very musical and good solo, and I loved the beginning of Ytse ;)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: rush-signals on July 05, 2011, 01:52:23 PM
Anyone notice that JP seems to be more in charge on stage now. More of leader presence? I like it!
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: 7StringedBeast on July 05, 2011, 01:53:05 PM
Hope this is just a thing with it being an off night/first show/last song of the set thing for james.  This is the worst I've heard him sing lately.  Doesn't help that he is waaaay too high in the mix compared to the rest of the band and I can't hear any reverb blending him in.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tgstk2 on July 05, 2011, 01:54:05 PM
Anyone notice that JP seems to be more in charge on stage now. More of leader presence? I like it!
Yes i saw that too like he was the man... Looked great
Also great too see that mm is a more metal drummer than mp thought he was mm pounds hardddd
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: rush-signals on July 05, 2011, 01:55:59 PM
And he doesn't spit!   :metal

Also great too see that mm is a more metal drummer than mp thought he was mm pounds hardddd
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: rush-signals on July 05, 2011, 02:01:11 PM
Someone should make a thread with just the links to the videos to make it easier on us older people!  :corn
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tgstk2 on July 05, 2011, 02:13:29 PM
Well do it in this thread as it is my thread and it almost got 5000views which is a personal high score :loser:
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Florinator on July 05, 2011, 02:42:09 PM
And he doesn't spit!   :metal

Also great too see that mm is a more metal drummer than mp thought he was mm pounds hardddd

And he doesn't say fuck in every other sentence in every interview!  :censored
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Blazinarps on July 05, 2011, 02:43:42 PM
Is it possible for Rudess to start doing backing vocals?  I knew the lack of MP backing vocals would be weird, but not like this.  Something needs to fill the void.
I agree. Although I will say that John Petrucci is doing fine when you can hear him. I feel like he is turned down too low. I think they should get a vocal harmonizer so James could harmonize the melody and the upper harmony, then JP could just do the low harmonies. Ideally, Jordan would sing though.

The harmonies are rarely static (as in James sings a line, and the harmony notes are say, all a third above his line). This wouldn't really work. I'm surprised Jordan doesn't sing live, does anyone know if MM can sing?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: IdoSC on July 05, 2011, 02:45:09 PM
Is it possible for Rudess to start doing backing vocals?  I knew the lack of MP backing vocals would be weird, but not like this.  Something needs to fill the void.
I agree. Although I will say that John Petrucci is doing fine when you can hear him. I feel like he is turned down too low. I think they should get a vocal harmonizer so James could harmonize the melody and the upper harmony, then JP could just do the low harmonies. Ideally, Jordan would sing though.

The harmonies are rarely static (as in James sings a line, and the harmony notes are say, all a third above his line). This wouldn't really work. I'm surprised Jordan doesn't sing live, does anyone know if MM can sing?
MM confirmed he can't/wouldn't sing in his latest interview.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 05, 2011, 02:45:35 PM
From this what I saw at the vidoes Mangini was great...  :metal :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: AtmosphericV on July 05, 2011, 02:45:46 PM
Very good quality clip from OtboA. James sings very good, sound is good, all seems good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZ1ymo64A6s

and form Under a glass moon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzNVO_dUQ8g&feature=related
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Edergilmour on July 05, 2011, 02:46:23 PM
Waiting for a Caught in a web video. BTW, the live version of SOTBOA kicked every italian ass in there. haha  :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: rush-signals on July 05, 2011, 02:56:58 PM
No problem.

Well do it in this thread as it is my thread and it almost got 5000views which is a personal high score :loser:
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: Frank on July 05, 2011, 02:57:11 PM
My problem isn't with the F# itself, it's with the notes leading up to it.  JLB is great at a low-mid register and the occasional bursts of high notes, but any sustained singing in between he has trouble locking in tune.

Indeed. It is fantastic to hear the F#, but in the recording I saw, the notes leading up to it seemed just a bit off. For me, it's not the F# alone that does it for me - I know my last post made it seem like it is - it's the entire build-up that helps it be a wonderful part of the song. Regardless, the new Rome performance still did it for me overall.
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: Vlasto on July 05, 2011, 03:04:21 PM
check some other songs, those are great...great performence...

https://www.youtube.com/user/DreamMusicStudioRoma#p/u/7/me-pxNLjWk0

or here, UTGM has super atmosphere:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6trdknWA5Tw
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: MetropolisxPt1 on July 05, 2011, 03:05:32 PM
My problem isn't with the F# itself, it's with the notes leading up to it.  JLB is great at a low-mid register and the occasional bursts of high notes, but any sustained singing in between he has trouble locking in tune.
He was definately sharp in that section however Wait for sleep reprise redeemed the entire vocals. Jordan was especially good.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: krands85 on July 05, 2011, 03:20:52 PM
First 2 minutes of Peruvian Skies:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi4-Do1rra8

And from just before JPs solo to the end:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq-ii7LZ2AY

Very good sound on those vids and James sounds great  :metal 'Battered and bruised, wooooAAAlways confusing, the love that she's losing for haaaaaaaaaaate'   ;D
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tristl on July 05, 2011, 03:26:14 PM
 :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
i was in rome yesterday,
it was awesome , believe me, they were very tight, james did sing his ass of, he seemed almost relieved,
mangini was unbelievable, and most unbelievable, i could hear myungs bass, the best D.T. show i ever did see.
 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol : :metal :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: setrataeso on July 05, 2011, 03:32:02 PM
I still cannot get behind the drum solo. Mangini is a good player and all, but outside of Peart, I have never enjoyed a concert drum solo. I don't even like my own drum solos... They take away time that the band could be playing another song.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: cookienut on July 05, 2011, 06:11:34 PM
What I found I couldn't understand was MM placing the Toms up so high above his head. I thought, how can anyone roll from there to the lower kit toms. After seeing Mangini, he just uses the one hand to roll up high. The man is amazing.

That being said when he uses both hands rolling across the high toms, he's just plain quick enough to transition lower without loosing any space. Wow.

Not only does he play MP's parts with great precision, he plays them with similar feeling to MP...a true sign of a professional musician.

AS for JLBs vocals - it's the first flaming show! Remember his vocals have crazy ranges....must need a few nights to get the vocal chords stretched and ready.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: rush-signals on July 05, 2011, 06:14:53 PM
AS for JLBs vocals - it's the first flaming show! Remember his vocals have crazy ranges....must need a few nights to get the vocal chords stretched and ready.

James has always been James, good shows and bad ones. I still cringe when I watch OIALT, some of those vocals, gawd! But he always comes back,it is what it is and I have no problem with his vocals.
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: seasonsinthesky on July 05, 2011, 06:19:26 PM
are you people kidding me? JL blew me away in that video! it's obviously not Live at the Marquee, but jesus christ, the guy hasn't sung this song so well for a long goddamn time. he nailed it.
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: Ħ on July 05, 2011, 06:23:05 PM
I thought that the F# (and the notes leading up to it) and the final verse were pretty bad.
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: 7StringedBeast on July 05, 2011, 07:11:13 PM
are you people kidding me? JL blew me away in that video! it's obviously not Live at the Marquee, but jesus christ, the guy hasn't sung this song so well for a long goddamn time. he nailed it.

You may be tone deaf if you think he nailed it in that video of LTL.
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: rush-signals on July 05, 2011, 07:12:43 PM
It cracks me up to here everyone say "his F#". My God where are you people coming up with this stuff, enough already, give the guy a break.
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: sneakyblueberry on July 05, 2011, 07:22:39 PM
This is the best bootleg so far, awesome stuff.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tjanuranus on July 05, 2011, 07:25:09 PM
what's bad in OIALT? i've listened to that a million times and never noticed many mistakes.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: rush-signals on July 05, 2011, 07:34:09 PM
Really? His voice at times is not very good. I would have to go back and watch it to give you examples. It's like he's strainign and can't hit notes.

what's bad in OIALT? i've listened to that a million times and never noticed many mistakes.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: WildeSilas on July 05, 2011, 08:35:56 PM
Wasn't that after he got food poisoning in Mexico and blew out his esophagus vomiting?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: contest_sanity on July 05, 2011, 10:14:13 PM
First 2 minutes of Peruvian Skies:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi4-Do1rra8

And from just before JPs solo to the end:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq-ii7LZ2AY
Thanks for posting.  Man, I really wanna see "Peruvian Skies" in the U.S. -- one of my favorite Dream Theater songs!
Title: Re: First Mike Mangini Drum Solo with DT! Watch And Comment!
Post by: Florinator on July 05, 2011, 10:22:19 PM
I think MM totally owned it, he is on top of his game, as one would expect. I would go as far as to say that I think he is better than MP. I love MP (duh), but I think MM is simply a better fit for DT. He is more technical, more of a musician, like JR, JP and JM and less of a bad-ass "rockstar", like MP. If you think about it, the other guys don't even have a tattoo for crying out loud... I'm definitely not going to miss MP's spitting on the stage (yuck), his dropping the f-bomb in every other sentence in each interview and so forth.

Welcome Mike Mangini, you da man!  :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tjanuranus on July 05, 2011, 11:08:39 PM
Really? His voice at times is not very good. I would have to go back and watch it to give you examples. It's like he's strainign and can't hit notes.

what's bad in OIALT? i've listened to that a million times and never noticed many mistakes.

Oh you said oialt which is the double cd I was referring to but I don't remember much from the video as far as mistakes. But I'm sure it's possible.
Title: Re: First Mike Mangini Drum Solo with DT! Watch And Comment!
Post by: dongringo on July 05, 2011, 11:59:22 PM
I love this solo. It's the little things like the one handed snare rolls...switching back and forth between the right and left hands. He's a serious musician who excels at his craft. I'm sure the other guys are very excited to be playing with him and vise versa.
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: wasteland on July 06, 2011, 06:59:32 AM
Complete video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYQy608hV40

(slightly lesser vide quality, but the audio is great!)

The Outro is so...   :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: tri.ad on July 06, 2011, 07:04:18 AM
Now that's an ending! Somehow, I never thought that the riff just before the WFS reprise really fitted as the final moment. This one is much better. :tup
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: Guitalguy on July 06, 2011, 07:47:46 AM
I understand that this discussion mainly is about JLB's performance.. And i agree with that he's not as great as he was. But I think it's a little weird that he seems to struggle with the notes that are slightly higher than the average key, like the notes leading up to the F# in LTL. But when he comes to the F#, he seems to hit it very well. Another example is Under A Glass Moon, where he seemed to have some trouble until he got to "Praying for TIME to disappear.." Where he was completely up there.

Well, I'm no vocals expert nor a singer, but i think that's a little weird. Am I the only one who noticed this?
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: chknptpie on July 06, 2011, 09:04:37 AM
I thought maybe it was just lazy singing?
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: Nihil-Morari on July 06, 2011, 09:23:50 AM
Wow, James has really taken a step back since last tour. Really didn't expect that.

Maybe it's just because it's the beginning of the tour and that LtL is a really tough song to sing, but this was SDoiT tour bad.
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: Dreamer81 on July 06, 2011, 09:30:32 AM
It cracks me up to here everyone say "his F#". My God where are you people coming up with this stuff, enough already, give the guy a break.

this!!!yesterday in Verona was much better than the other night in Rome. Sometimes I think that DT fans go to gigs just to point at every little mistake they do.
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: yorost on July 06, 2011, 09:32:47 AM
I don't think most are giving LaBrie a hard time for it, people can understand that's hard on him.  What people are astounded by are others saying he nailed it.  I sort of wish he wouldn't try, instead do it lower to protect his voice.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: chrisbDTM on July 06, 2011, 09:47:18 AM
i think JLB sounded good on the great debate from monday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPyWk2ZxdAw
Title: Re: First Mike Mangini Drum Solo with DT! Watch And Comment!
Post by: TAC on July 06, 2011, 09:54:03 AM
best version i have found
https://youtu.be/rYWJw8BZGmU

What's so great about this is that it goes right into Ytse Jam. Whoever's idea that was, I applaud them. It truly seemed like an epic moment.
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: wasteland on July 06, 2011, 10:18:31 AM
I don't think most are giving LaBrie a hard time for it, people can understand that's hard on him.  What people are astounded by are others saying he nailed it.  I sort of wish he wouldn't try, instead do it lower to protect his voice.

That's what he has done in the whole 2009-2010 tour. He kept it quite low, had many big pauses between one leg and another and as a result almost achieved perfect shape in the last two legs.

As far as I know him, I am quite convinced that this tour will be quite a good tour for him, despite the dubious performance at Rome.
Title: Re: First Mike Mangini Drum Solo with DT! Watch And Comment!
Post by: ML on July 06, 2011, 11:09:53 AM
I was reading MP-forum, but I'll write here because my account there was denied and not activated for some reason.

After seeing videos from 1st and 2nd gig it feels absurd to see some posts, where people think that the playing (MM and DT) misses something. Honestly, those are the first gigs with this lineup ever, of course it's a bit safely performed and still might have some fouls. It's basically useless to compare MM to MP, because MP had always played on DT and knows the songs better than anyone. It's like taking Haake off from Meshuggah and MP would take the seat. I'm sure the gig would not go 100% smoothly. When a certain level of complexity is reached on music, people just can't step in and make everything 100% right on the first rounds, no matter how talented they are. I though MM did awesome job, I can only wait when they've made 100 shows with this line-up!

Overall, without the change of drummer, I'd have most like skipped the next DT album and certainly would not go to see them live anymore. There's something new now and at least for me, this change of lineup was the only one that makes a difference (interest-wise) for me. I don't miss the show-elements of MP, I kind of hope the added live-parts (all funny themes within other songs) would stay away now, I have no interest to long jamming, basically I prefer the material to be played as recorded and at least now they've done so. For me this feels like a band of talented prog musicians again, if I want to see or listen a band of rough guys, DT has never been that, no matter how many tattoos are on the skin or how many celebrities they hang with. In a way, I feel that most of the biggest complainers are a bit newer fans, who were introduced by the albums from the 2000 - and MP's face on the cover of magazines. Some earlier fans remember the band as a group of a bit quiet prog guys, making great prog music, without the hardest modern metal edge on it and are now happy, when that side is coming back, at least in some ways. Maybe I'm wrong...
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: tristl on July 06, 2011, 01:02:45 PM
 :metal :corn :biggrin:
i think for a first show james was brilliant thruout the whole show,
in my opinion since live at budokan he was in all the sconcerts i seen (about six) and all the live cds/dvds excellent.
can anyone tell me which singer does a better job live?
Title: Re: Learning To Live @ Rome (HD 1080p good audio quality)
Post by: erik16 on July 06, 2011, 01:10:44 PM
I really like this version of Learning to Live. Instead of ending with the part before the Wait for Sleep reprise, thus coming sort of mini full circle, they prolong the outro, play a unison part and then end the song with  a calm drum ending. It helps to preserve the majestic outro feeling (with the crowd).
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: perfey on July 07, 2011, 01:04:34 PM
Caught in a Web (720p): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8esg4TY8b7I

Peruvian Skies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ff_PUzDdP1E
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on July 07, 2011, 01:06:06 PM
Anyone notice that JP seems to be more in charge on stage now. More of leader presence? I like it!

That's probably the reason he got so big.
Title: Mike Mangini drum solo + The Ytse Jam Live in Rome 2011
Post by: Hereg Edward on July 07, 2011, 06:07:01 PM
Here's my video :metal
Sorry for the audio but that bass made this awful audio reocord.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYWJw8BZGmU
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on July 08, 2011, 06:28:38 AM
Artwork I made for the upcoming audio bootleg. Do you like it?  :)

(https://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn105/SteveAudrey/deadend2.png)

(full view to see some details)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: TAC on July 08, 2011, 06:30:11 AM
Looks super, Waste! :tup
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: chrisbDTM on July 08, 2011, 06:30:57 AM
awesome
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: jonny108 on July 08, 2011, 06:46:21 AM
Great stuff Wasteland  :tup
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 08, 2011, 08:12:31 AM
Yeah, nice  :tup But Wasteland, from where the title did came from?
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Zydar on July 08, 2011, 08:23:02 AM
I guess it's from the line in OTBOA: "The dead end road to nowhere".

Looks awesome!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 08, 2011, 09:12:46 AM
I guess it's from the line in OTBOA: "The dead end road to nowhere".

Looks awesome!
Shit, I didn't noticed that. Never paid so much attention on lyrics as everybody, I have to change it!!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on July 08, 2011, 10:54:05 AM
Second shot. Which one is better in your opinion?

(https://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn105/SteveAudrey/deadend3.png)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 08, 2011, 11:06:25 AM
Hell...definitly better artowrk on the second one, but there's only MMX there ;)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on July 08, 2011, 11:15:50 AM
Hell...definitly better artowrk on the second one, but there's only MMX there ;)

Well, it would have been extremely hard to blend the group picture with the background, and besides, the whole composition would have suffered greatly. You know, in the previous artwork, the shape of the colosseum directly shifts and pushes the viewer's attention toward the image above. Furthermore, if you draw a line to join all the heads of the band members, you'll have the same shape of the upper edge of the building. So, that's definitely a strong composition. To try the same thing with a different foreground image, with different shapes, would have compromised the whole result, in my opinion.

And I could not include each member's single portrait, either, since most of them have the upper part of their head cropped away. -.-

So, I went with Mangini (the only one with Myung to have a full-head picture) alone, which is not completely nonsense, since the show was very much HIS special show.

Anyway, I like both artwork, but my preference leans towards the first. I like hot color a bit more, and definitely love the blurred lights/lines (which might allude to the "Blurring lines drawn in between what is right and what is wrong").
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 08, 2011, 11:59:26 AM
Hell...definitly better artowrk on the second one, but there's only MMX there ;)

Well, it would have been extremely hard to blend the group picture with the background, and besides, the whole composition would have suffered greatly. You know, in the previous artwork, the shape of the colosseum directly shifts and pushes the viewer's attention toward the image above. Furthermore, if you draw a line to join all the heads of the band members, you'll have the same shape of the upper edge of the building. So, that's definitely a strong composition. To try the same thing with a different foreground image, with different shapes, would have compromised the whole result, in my opinion.

And I could not include each member's single portrait, either, since most of them have the upper part of their head cropped away. -.-

So, I went with Mangini (the only one with Myung to have a full-head picture) alone, which is not completely nonsense, since the show was very much HIS special show.

Anyway, I like both artwork, but my preference leans towards the first. I like hot color a bit more, and definitely love the blurred lights/lines (which might allude to the "Blurring lines drawn in between what is right and what is wrong").

I totally agree with this, it seems that you're niw what You are talking about. I have no idea about photoshopping and any of that kind of stuff :P And of course it was special night for Mangini, no doubt ;)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: IdoSC on July 08, 2011, 01:01:39 PM
Second artwork...
1. It's Mangini's first show, he deserves it.
2. It's BEAUTIFUL! Man I love it!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: chrisbDTM on July 08, 2011, 01:33:14 PM
i love the hidden majesty symbol in the second one
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Dreamer81 on July 08, 2011, 02:27:09 PM
I love the second one ...... MM deserve it and look so....majestic.
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on July 08, 2011, 02:49:30 PM
i love the hidden majesty symbol in the second one

Thanks! You are actually the first to spot it!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: DreamerTV on July 09, 2011, 10:07:24 AM
See if you can put this somewhere in the artwork... :D

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-JJ6v78rtHCc/ThNNvBIp_9I/AAAAAAAADug/hz2H0VwtOXg/s512/P1060070.JPG)

From the gig at Ippodromo delle Capannelle
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Zydar on July 09, 2011, 10:07:48 AM
Oh my ;D

Cool JM shot on the screen though :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on July 09, 2011, 10:10:30 AM
See if you can put this somewhere in the artwork... :D

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-JJ6v78rtHCc/ThNNvBIp_9I/AAAAAAAADug/hz2H0VwtOXg/s512/P1060070.JPG)

From the gig at Ippodromo delle Capannelle

Retrocopertina, o magari label dei dischi  :rollin
Merita, al 100%

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100% on the back cover. Also sprach.  :lol
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: contest_sanity on July 09, 2011, 10:40:07 AM
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-JJ6v78rtHCc/ThNNvBIp_9I/AAAAAAAADug/hz2H0VwtOXg/s512/P1060070.JPG)

Who's the babe playing bass on the back screen?  She's kinda ho---

Cool JM shot on the screen

Well this is awkward...
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on July 13, 2011, 07:23:54 AM


(https://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn105/SteveAudrey/DT20110704_cover_art_Back_Cover-1.png)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: chrisbDTM on July 13, 2011, 07:44:49 AM
 :rollin
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Zydar on July 13, 2011, 07:45:53 AM
Awesome ;D
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 13, 2011, 07:54:52 AM
Great!!When it will be available? :D
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on July 13, 2011, 08:13:02 AM
Within hours on dimeadozen, probably tomorrow here!! It has come out quite good, bobs23 has really been amazing  :hefdaddy
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: Dreamer81 on July 13, 2011, 08:18:26 AM
Within hours on dimeadozen, probably tomorrow here!! It has come out quite good, bobs23 has really been amazing  :hefdaddy

Yes!!!and for the Verona one?  ::)
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on July 13, 2011, 08:27:10 AM
Within hours on dimeadozen, probably tomorrow here!! It has come out quite good, bobs23 has really been amazing  :hefdaddy

Yes!!!and for the Verona one?  ::)

There is a small issue with two tracks from Verona (TMW and Tragedy). As soon as Nick manages to fix it, then I will post it! Yet, I am not to make an artwork for that as well... There is someone else on Italian Voices who has been given the chance to prove his skills!

However, as I said somewhere (well, maybe I haven't), I just made a DVD of the Verona show. Today I'll start a graphic contest here: the best proposed artwork will be the official one!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: TAC on July 13, 2011, 08:29:57 AM
..., bobs23 has really been amazing  :hefdaddy
He is DA MAN!
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 13, 2011, 08:35:53 AM
Within hours on dimeadozen, probably tomorrow here!! It has come out quite good, bobs23 has really been amazing  :hefdaddy

Yes!!!and for the Verona one?  ::)

There is a small issue with two tracks from Verona (TMW and Tragedy). As soon as Nick manages to fix it, then I will post it! Yet, I am not to make an artwork for that as well... There is someone else on Italian Voices who has been given the chance to prove his skills!

However, as I said somewhere (well, maybe I haven't), I just made a DVD of the Verona show. Today I'll start a graphic contest here: the best proposed artwork will be the official one!
:o :hefdaddy :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-04 - Ippodromo delle Capannelle - Rome, ITA (first Mangini gig)
Post by: wasteland on July 13, 2011, 09:47:06 AM
Bootleg is available. Look for it in "Bootlegs And Trading"!!  :)