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Title: So apparently...
Post by: JayOctavarium on May 04, 2011, 11:52:49 AM
The guy who killed my dad 2 years ago is going to trial.

Should I be happy?

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Title: Re: So apparently...
Post by: kári on May 04, 2011, 11:58:38 AM
I'm sorry that happened to you... I don't really know what to say.
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Post by: JayOctavarium on May 04, 2011, 12:02:14 PM
im shocked that is actually happening
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Post by: tri.ad on May 04, 2011, 12:56:27 PM
Well, I knew that your father had died (because you posted it earlier), but I had no idea that it happened this way.

Man, I don't know what to say either... I'd rather hold back any emotion (if possible) until the judgment.
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Post by: lordxizor on May 04, 2011, 01:18:37 PM
You should be happy if you think the guy could do it again to someone else. Sorry for the loss of your dad. Hopefully this can at least bring some closure to you and your family.
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Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on May 04, 2011, 01:22:16 PM
I'm of the strong belief that everyone gets what they deserve in this life. So, I'd say it's a good thing.
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Post by: JayOctavarium on May 04, 2011, 04:33:20 PM
idk why I made a thread on this.. it was just thing to kick me out of this depreasion.


its woerd though... because my family found via a radio news break. should we have been told?  unleas my bitch of a stepmother has been kept in the loop and has neglected to tell me. whatever. fuck her. lol
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Post by: Orbert on May 04, 2011, 04:44:28 PM
I thought it was standard police procedure to not release any names until they've notified the family, precisely for this reason.  Finding out from some TV or radio broadcast you happen to catch is not cool.

By the way, my sympathies for your loss.  And yes, you can be happy that the bastard is going to trial.  The wheels of justice turn slowly, but they do move.
Title: Re: So apparently...
Post by: JayOctavarium on May 04, 2011, 04:52:13 PM
his name was know since the begining.its a case of vehicular manslaughter.
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Post by: Orbert on May 04, 2011, 08:55:18 PM
Oh, I thought you meant that's how you found out about your dad originally.

It's not as big a deal when they finally go to trial, but I'd think your stepmother would at least have been told.  But I don't know.
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Post by: 73109 on May 04, 2011, 08:56:38 PM
Many sympathies dude, and I hope whatever you want to happen, happens.
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Post by: lonestar on May 04, 2011, 08:58:35 PM
I only hope you find a touch of closure in this.  Hang in there bud.
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Post by: Adami on May 04, 2011, 10:15:54 PM
Was it a drunk driving case or something?
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Post by: JayOctavarium on May 04, 2011, 10:49:33 PM
not drunk driving. I will post a link on it when I get home.  idk even know if I want anything to happen to the guy.  I am just glad something is fiinally being done.  and I apologize for all the posts I've made over the past mo.th about all the shit going on in my life.
Title: Re: So apparently...
Post by: JayOctavarium on May 04, 2011, 11:50:37 PM
https://www.vcstar.com/news/2009/may/01/Motorcyclist-killed-in-Oxnard-crash-identified/?partner=RSS


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Post by: jsem on May 05, 2011, 03:02:32 AM
https://www.vcstar.com/news/2009/may/01/Motorcyclist-killed-in-Oxnard-crash-identified/?partner=RSS



Woah. Crap man.

Many sympathies dude, and I hope whatever you want to happen, happens.
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Post by: SPNKr on May 05, 2011, 03:47:50 AM
I hope he's there to drop the soap, dig what I'm sayin'?
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Post by: YtseBitsySpider on May 05, 2011, 05:37:24 AM
Jay...I know you only got a thousand posts here, but don't ever feel bad about posting stuff like this. We (for the most part) are a very caring bunch at this site. Bosk and the mods keep trolls at bay, and generally the people that will respond in threads like this will do so in a heart felt and sincere manner...often with some really good advice.

I read the article.
I'm a little shocked you weren't kept in the loop by the authorities.
I don't know which way to council you, I've never been through anything like this.

but....man hug for you.......keep your chin up through this and do your best to get out of your funk and LIVE life....I'm sure that's what your dad would want.

Title: Re: So apparently...
Post by: JayOctavarium on May 16, 2011, 08:30:18 PM
My step mother (who i havent talked to in over a year...) younger sister, aunt and I are meeting with the DA tomorrow.

And then next month we get to speak at the trial. I don't know how I am going to do this.
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Post by: King Postwhore on May 16, 2011, 08:34:46 PM
My step mother (who i havent talked to in over a year...) younger sister, aunt and I are meeting with the DA tomorrow.

And then next month we get to speak at the trial. I don't know how I am going to do this.
By thinking it's a way to get to the end, (You need this so you can go on with your life) and you dad would want you to be a strong young man and make peace with yourself.  This will be cathartic for you.  Be strong.
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Post by: JayOctavarium on May 20, 2011, 02:40:40 PM
I learned some interesting things. Like apparently he wasn't killed instantly. A passerby, who happened to be a doctor, tried to save him.

Also I am trying to write out a statement for the sentencing. They want me to speak. It will be sometime next month. I have to write out how this has affected my life. The problem is, I dont know where to start.

I will keep y'all informed
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Post by: Jamesman42 on May 20, 2011, 02:47:43 PM
Wow. I pray you have some peace as you deal with those things in the coming weeks. Keep your head UP
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Post by: Adami on May 20, 2011, 02:50:44 PM
Based off the article, it seemed like a terrible accident, but I didn't see any sign of malicious intent.
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Post by: JayOctavarium on May 20, 2011, 02:55:14 PM
Based off the article, it seemed like a terrible accident, but I didn't see any sign of malicious intent.

The problem is he doesnt feel remorse. he has showed no emotion. at all. The day it happened, he was more worried about getting home than he was the fact that his actions just killed a man. During the trial, he told the jury my dad should have avoided him. (my dad had less than half of a second to react. It was impossible).  It was an accident. But his actions still took a life.

Wow. I pray you have some peace as you deal with those things in the coming weeks. Keep your head UP

thanks man.
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Post by: ricky on May 20, 2011, 02:55:58 PM
Jay, we're here for ya buddy! hang in there.
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Post by: Kosmo on May 20, 2011, 03:02:09 PM
My sympathies.
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Post by: Jamesman42 on May 20, 2011, 03:16:30 PM
Based off the article, it seemed like a terrible accident, but I didn't see any sign of malicious intent.

I do agree with this. Accidents happen, unfortunately. I have lost quite a few friends to accidents that could have been avoided, but I mean, sometimes it is just unavoidable.


It is depressing that the guy reacted like that, though. What a douche.
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Post by: Aramatheis on May 20, 2011, 04:18:55 PM
Well, I knew that your father had died (because you posted it earlier), but I had no idea that it happened this way.

Man, I don't know what to say either... I'd rather hold back any emotion (if possible) until the judgment.


Jay...I know you only got a thousand posts here, but don't ever feel bad about posting stuff like this. We (for the most part) are a very caring bunch at this site. Bosk and the mods keep trolls at bay, and generally the people that will respond in threads like this will do so in a heart felt and sincere manner...often with some really good advice.

I strongly agree. Don't ever feel bad about the posts you made, bro. Everyone needs to get things off their chest sometime, and we're all really lucky to have such a kind/caring community here at DTF to share with. I just hope you obtain some measure of catharsis
Title: Re: So apparently...
Post by: JayOctavarium on June 21, 2011, 01:06:24 AM
So apparently....

The sentencing is tomorrow... I was given less than a 24 hour notice. I have been waiting for weeks for some information...  and then I am told at  3pm the day before that I need to be at the courthouse at 8am...  And I was told this as I was on the way to Bakersfield...... fuckkkkkkkkkkkkk im stressed.

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Post by: CrimsonSunrise on June 21, 2011, 06:14:54 AM
I'm so sorry about your Dad, our thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.  It does, by the article, sound like a terrible accident.  The lack of remorse thing.... I honestly can't know how the man feels.  I have a guy at work who 5 years ago killed a woman on the 405 in Orange county.  It happened at 4am on his way to work, the lady had dropped her cell phone and while reaching for it on the floor spun out and stalled the car.  She then got out of the car and got hit by my friend, she was also legally drunk.  My friend was not initially emotional about it, but more analytical.  Months later he had to do quite a bit of psych therapy to deal with his feelings and it really ate at him.

The Point, and sorry to drag this on, is that people react differently to incidents of this magnitude.  Like I said....I can't KNOW how this man feels, unless I were to have a heart to heart chat with him.  Hang in there Brother....and know you have people who care to give you what you need  :)
Title: Re: So apparently...
Post by: JayOctavarium on June 21, 2011, 01:01:12 PM
30 days in work furlough. And probation. That's what he got.
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Post by: Gadough on June 21, 2011, 01:05:11 PM
....wow
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Post by: Adami on June 21, 2011, 01:07:41 PM
30 days in work furlough. And probation. That's what he got.

Sounds like you have a lot of strong feelings that you aren't expressing.
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Post by: Chino on June 21, 2011, 01:10:29 PM
30 days in work furlough. And probation. That's what he got.

That's weak. Unbelievable.
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Post by: Jamesman42 on June 21, 2011, 01:21:36 PM
30 days in work furlough. And probation. That's what he got.

Did they give a reasoning? It still seems like just a terrible accident. Accidents happen. It sucks that the guy showed no remorse, but he may also be masking it...it may be a very hard thing to deal with as it is for you. Just trying to make some sense out of this, hope you're ok man


Edit: And emotions can cloud seeing things for what they are. Not that you shouldn't feel what you feel about losing your dad, but in the world of law and justice, emotion is not always used (I think)
Title: Re: So apparently...
Post by: JayOctavarium on June 21, 2011, 02:26:33 PM
Sorry.. posted that on my phone.... hadnt any time to do a proper post.

He was originally going to get 30 days jail time... plus a very creative probation... plus his driving privilages stripped... with the exception of driving to and from work... plus paying us restitution... (burial costs... plus counseling and medical insurance for a set amount of time... i think...)

and if he doesnt make the payments, or violates his probation or his driving terms, he gets 240 days jail time.

But last minute it got worked down to work furlough... my only thing is if he is going to be doing work furlough, It should have been bumped up from 30 days to a longer term thing. He has 2 small children, and I met his wife. She was really nice... like... I have different feelings about all this.. I still am really upset, but I understand the situation better. 



I almost went up to him and shook his hand after everything was said and done... was going to introduce myself and tell him I don't hate him... but I couldnt pull myself to do it