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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: 73109 on April 28, 2011, 03:25:57 PM
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So maybe this is like the "on accident" or "by accident" thread, but there has been something I have been noticing in the way people talk that bothers me. This little thing is the complete lack of the word "with" in sentences. I can't tell you how many times I should start my homework after I've "done my test." Or when I'm "done my school work," I can read. These are coming out of teachers with degrees English teachers, no less. Am I missing something here?
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There is nothing wrong with saying "when you've done your work"
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Wat?
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Done is used like "completed" in that instance.
As in all instances, so what's wrong
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Done can be used as a transitive verb. "I've done my test." is the same as saying "I've completed my test."
EDIt: Sonata done ninja'd me.
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Done as in "have you done." Not "are you done," which would require a "with." Two different words. "With" is unnecessary. If not out of place.
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Am I missing something here?
Yup.
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Why is this a thread?
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It just sounds wrong to me. One you are done with you work flows much better than when you've done your work...eh, whatever.
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One you are done with you work flows much better than when you've done your work...eh, whatever.
Whargarbl troll?
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It just sounds wrong to me. One you are done with you work flows much better than when you've done your work...eh, whatever.
Think it's probably just 'cause it's what you're more used to. "Once you're done with your work" sounds a little cumbersome from where I'm standing - even though it's perfectly proper.
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Present: I do the dishes.
Past perfect: I have done the dishes.
Don't see anything wrong here. Do you seriously consider saying "I've done with my homework"? It sounds like half of a sentence like "See what I've done with my homework" which means something completely different.
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No. I have done my homework, but I am done with my home work. I don't know why I'm weird about this...
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Hmm. I don't know. I think "done with" is both longer and less specific. "Done with," I'd actually argue, makes it sound a little like you're fed up of the homework. It borrows a little bit from the Soap Opera English Dictionary. "I'm done with all the lies and the treachery," etc. etc. It's synonymous with "through with." "I'm through with watching television," "I'm done with going to school," or what have you. Makes it sound like you've finished forever.
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No. I have done my homework, but I am done with my home work.
Yes, correct. What is the point now?
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No. I have done my homework, but I am done with my home work.
Yes, correct. What is the point now?
Hmm. I don't know. I think "done with" is both longer and less specific. "Done with," I'd actually argue, makes it sound a little like you're fed up of the homework. It borrows a little bit from the Soap Opera English Dictionary. "I'm done with all the lies and the treachery," etc. etc. It's synonymous with "through with." "I'm through with watching television," "I'm done with going to school," or what have you. Makes it sound like you've finished forever.
It does when you put a continuous sense behind it, as in "I'm done with doing homework".
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I'm fed up with this world!
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Am I missing something here?
Yup.
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I think Cole has not done his homework on this argument.
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I think everybody in this thread is not comprehending the actual problem.
The problem is people saying stuff like, "Once you are done your homework, blah blah blah"
not, "Once you have done your homework, blah blah blah"
The second one is correct, like everybody has been saying.
The first one should be, "Once you are done with your homework, blah blah blah"
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That's what I'm talking about... :\
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I think everybody in this thread is not comprehending the actual problem.
The problem is people saying stuff like, "Once you are done your homework, blah blah blah"
I can safely say I've never seen anyone do that before, but, erm, ok...
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Who says "once you are done your homework"?
That is just retarded.
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I have no problem saying when you have done your work, it is when you are done your work that pisses me off.
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I have no problem saying when you have done your work, it is when you are done your work that pisses me off.
I have never heard anyone say "When you are done your work" in my life.
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I have no problem saying when you have done your work, it is when you are done your work that pisses me off.
I have never heard anyone say "When you are done your work" in my life.
Yeah, it sounds so wrong.
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Yeah who says when you are done your work? I've never ever heard anyone say that. That's really not correct English at all.
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Numbers, If this bothers you I suggest you focus on what good around you. Nothing good ever comes from nitpicking. So a person isn't literate like others. So what.
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I have no problem saying when you have done your work, it is when you are done your work that pisses me off.
Well, if teachers actually say this, then by all means, they are wrong. That isn't a lack of "with" as much as it is simply a mixing up of the "have" and "are" verbs. "When you've done your work" would be completely fine. Of course, you could throw in "with" too and justify the "are". But like the others, I've never heard anyone say this example you made.
When I was just learning French that was the first thing that was drilled in to my head by my tutor. The only unnatural thing about that sentence is the placement of "are" as opposed to "have".
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Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
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I agree with Cole. You know, I don't think either "on accident" or "by accident" are correct.
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DUN DUN DUN
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What annoys me more is people saying, 'are you going London?' WHAT IS WRONG WITH 'TO'
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I am done my homework on accident.
Mad now?
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What I hate is when someone says something like "I've BEEN done my homework." I've noticed that lately. "Been" can now be used as any part of speech in any part of the sentence.
Actually, it's not so much a part of speech as an assertion that something has happened a long time ago. Except that all you have to do is put it in the sentence to make yourself clear. It doesn't matter where in the sentence.
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I also want to hurt any body that says, "I seen it."
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I haven't heard any of the examples given in this thread.
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I've gotten used to the general butchering of the English language to the point where it rarely bothers me. I try to speak/write well just on FUCKINGHOMOPHONESHOWDOTHEYWORK, but I generally just accept that other people don't want to do the same.
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I don't know if it's due to my location, an upper middle class suburb, but I rarely find the English language to be overly butchered.
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I live in a urban city. Pretty big, but the area I live in is pretty ok. My school on the other hand...ugh.
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Poor numbers, he has to deal with people's faults.
Oh wait, we all do. :(
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I've gotten used to the general butchering of the English language to the point where it rarely bothers me. I try to speak/write well just on principal, but I generally just accept that other people don't want to do the same.
I mean you no disrespect but I think it's hilariously ironic that you used the wrong "principal."
Fuckin' homophones, how do they work?
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God dammit it's late I'm tired stop it
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I was gonna point that out but dtismajesty is cool and doesn't afraid of homophones.
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But yeah, I get the irony. :lol
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God dammit it's late I'm tired stop it
Pfft, that's no excuse. I've been running on two hours of sleep all day and I haven't hippopotamus a single word wrong the entire time.
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I was gonna point that out but dtismajesty is cool and doesn't afraid of homophones.
So he's not homophonobic?
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What I hate is when someone says something like "I've BEEN done my homework." I've noticed that lately. "Been" can now be used as any part of speech in any part of the sentence.
Actually, it's not so much a part of speech as an assertion that something has happened a long time ago. Except that all you have to do is put it in the sentence to make yourself clear. It doesn't matter where in the sentence.
Been = be = am. "I've been done with my homework." is just a different tense of "I am done with my homework."
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I haven't heard any examples of people not giving a fuck in this thread.
I don't give a fuck.
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What I hate is when someone says something like "I've BEEN done my homework." I've noticed that lately. "Been" can now be used as any part of speech in any part of the sentence.
Actually, it's not so much a part of speech as an assertion that something has happened a long time ago. Except that all you have to do is put it in the sentence to make yourself clear. It doesn't matter where in the sentence.
Been = be = am. "I've been done with my homework." is just a different tense of "I am done with my homework."
But they don't say "with." I guess this is similar to what Numbers was complaining about in the first place. :lol
Some of the kids I work with are terrible at this. I'll ask them if they punched in yet, and the response will be, "I BEEN did that."
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Well that's fucking stupid :lol
Two verbs, no conjunction, different tenses, one object... lol
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Just happened again today. I had to send one of my employees home sick the other day. When she came in to work this morning, I asked her if she'd brought in a doctor's note in to say she wasn't actually deathly ill and horribly contagious.
Her response?
"I BEEN brought that in."
WTF?
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I was good at English in school, but nowadays I play it by ear and make sure it sounds right...I don't really pay much attention to every little detail. Still, stuff like Phant is talking about still boggles my mind.
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Just happened again today. I had to send one of my employees home sick the other day. When she came in to work this morning, I asked her if she'd brought in a doctor's note in to say she wasn't actually deathly ill and horribly contagious.
Her response?
"I BEEN brought that in."
WTF
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That's god awful.
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I accidentally this whole thread.
rumborak
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Just happened again today. I had to send one of my employees home sick the other day. When she came in to work this morning, I asked her if she'd brought in a doctor's note in to say she wasn't actually deathly ill and horribly contagious.
Her response?
"I BEEN brought that in."
WTF?
lol
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Just happened again today. I had to send one of my employees home sick the other day. When she came in to work this morning, I asked her if she'd brought in a doctor's note in to say she wasn't actually deathly ill and horribly contagious.
Her response?
"I BEEN brought that in."
WTF?
Are you sure it's not a reference to this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq08yOneY_0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
rumborak
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Are you sure it's not a reference to this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq08yOneY_0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
rumborak
Or this (I BEEN HAD MONEY):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYsYCfKOvuI
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Kind of simliar....what do you guys think when someone tells a story, and speaks in the present tense? For example, "she says to the guy."
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Kind of simliar....what do you guys think when someone tells a story, and speaks in the present tense? For example, "she says to the guy."
Stylistic choice. Present tense and past tense are both applicable.
I'd only tend to use present tense with a time specifier beforehand - e.g., "By this point, I am absolutely dumbfounded, so I tell the bugger where he can stick his trumpet," but I don't mind whether anyone does or not.
"By this point, I was absolutely dumbfounded" makes just as much sense and keeps the past tense consistent, so while I wouldn't personally just leap in with "so I say to the guy..." it's not something that I abjectly don't do.