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Title: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Tick on April 22, 2011, 08:11:56 AM
So every once in awhile I stop at Mcdonalds on my lunch break when I'm in a hurry and didn't bring anything for lunch.
I order a double cheeseburger and a small fry and it comes out to $2.43 with tax. I went a couple weeks ago and paid with a $5 dollar bill and was handed back $2.32 for change. I drove away and said, I was shortchanged a quarter?
So a week later I go back and order the same thing and pay with a 5. Once again I receive $2.32 back instead of the $2.57 I should have. It was the same young Black male on the register. I thought is this kid stupid, or ripping people off? I was annoyed.
Yesterday I went back for the third time in about 3 weeks and ordered the same thing once more. I hear the kid say, "2.43 please". So I pull up to the window thinking, this kid better hand me back the right change or I'm gonna lose it.
I hand him a 5 and he hands me back my change. I look in my hand and see once again I am a quarter short. I say loudly to the closed window... "HEY!"
He opens the window and I look at him and say.."THIS IS THE THIRD FUCKING TIME IN 3 TRIES YOU SHORTCHANGED ME EXACTLY A QUARTER! EITHER YOUR FUCKING STUPID, OR SOMETHING ELSE IS GOING ON HERE! WHAT THE FUCK IS UP WITH YOU!" He panics and says, "I gave you the quarter sir, you dropped it on the ground I swear." I told him, no I did not. I would know if I dropped change out of my hand? I didn't. He says I gave it to you sir. I said, "just give me the fucking quarter now!"
I was so pissed when I drove off it stayed with me. I called this morning and told them they might want to watch this kid cause he is scamming his customers by shortchanging them. I also told his manager that when I called him on it, he panicked and said I dropped the quarter and when I asked him for  another quarter, he produced it immediately. I happen to know you can't open your drawer unless you are making a transaction without a manager. She said, you are correct, you can not. She asked for my name and number and I declined. I said, take my information as credible or don't but this kid is robbing people and he won't get caught because his drawer will never even come up short.
She thanked me repeatedly and said there will be a conversation with her superior about it.
I hope that asshole gets what he deserves.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: jsem on April 22, 2011, 08:13:56 AM
Not good business for McDonalds. They can easily fire him and get some one new, there's plenty of workforce out there.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Orbert on April 22, 2011, 08:15:59 AM
I hope the fire the mutherfocker, but first force him to eat McNuggets until they come out his ears.



'Cause that would be funny.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: wolfking on April 22, 2011, 08:20:31 AM
I think you handled that quite well.  I mean 3 times with the same outcome is very suspicious.  Really, if he short changes every customer by that much and pockets it, that would really add up at the end of a shift.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Orbert on April 22, 2011, 08:21:27 AM
That's got to be what he's doing.  Palming a quarter each time there's more than just a few coins, knowing that most people will just pocket it without counting it.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: wolfking on April 22, 2011, 08:23:33 AM
That's it.  I mean, when I go through the drive through, I put the note in my wallet and chuck the coins in the console, never taking notice how much is there.  The kid was stupid, if here were smart, he would have apologized and given you a quarter, then continued ripping off more people.  Would have been interesting to see what happened the time after that.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Tick on April 22, 2011, 08:24:40 AM
That's got to be what he's doing.  Palming a quarter each time there's more than just a few coins, knowing that most people will just pocket it without counting it.
Exactly. People drive off and usually throw there change in a cupholder.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Volk9 on April 22, 2011, 08:26:47 AM
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Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: axeman90210 on April 22, 2011, 08:34:09 AM
:lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: zxlkho on April 22, 2011, 08:34:35 AM
:rollin :rollin
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: ZBomber on April 22, 2011, 08:47:36 AM
I wouldn't go back to that McDonalds unless you like spit burgers.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: sonatafanica on April 22, 2011, 08:52:29 AM
SO YOU LIKE STEALING QUARTERS, HUH

WELL GUESS WHAT, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE IT IF I SAT HERE AND MADE YOU SMOKE AN ENTIRE CARTON OF CIGARETTES
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Quadrochosis on April 22, 2011, 08:58:11 AM
I personally wouldn't have freaked out like you did. Is getting ripped off 75 cents really the end of the world? Just politely ask next time, and maybe you wouldn't get such an attitude back. If I were the kid and you freaked out on me over a quarter, I would have probably laughed in your face. (not saying I condone his actions, or that I'd do it myself)
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: KevShmev on April 22, 2011, 09:01:46 AM
Yeah, yelling and cursing at him is not a good way to handle it, but if he was stealing, at least he possibly got exposed.  

But not sure being able to open the drawer is a reason for them to prove he was stealing and thus fire him.  If he has a brain in his head, he'd just say, "Well, I did give him the quarter, and he dropped it, but when he flipped out and started cursing at him, accusing me of stealing it, I gave him one out of my pocket instead of wasting his time with having to go find the manager and have the drawer opened for a quarter."  I mean, if no one else has complained that they are getting shorted out of money, they probably won't have grounds to fire him if he says something along those lines.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Perpetual Change on April 22, 2011, 09:07:02 AM
Yeah, personally, if I were the manager, I'd call security and have you barred from ever eating at my McDonalds again. Not because you were wrong, but because, as a manager, no-one treats my employees like that. There are far more respectable ways to handle it and, frankly, screaming obscenities at an employee makes you look like a nutjob, wrong or right.

I'm not a manager, by the way, but have worked in retail before and have seen things like this. I always admired managers who'd stick up for their employees against customers who were screaming at them, justified or not.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: kingshmegland on April 22, 2011, 09:16:00 AM
Yeah, personally, if I were the manager, I'd call security and have you barred from ever eating at my McDonalds again. Not because you were wrong, but because, as a manager, no-one treats my employees like that. There are far more respectable ways to handle it and, frankly, screaming obscenities at an employee makes you look like a nutjob, wrong or right.

I'm not a manager, by the way, but have worked in retail before and have seen things like this. I always admired managers who'd stick up for their employees against customers who were screaming at them, justified or not.

Right or wrong how tick handled it, the kid was in the wrong and a manager never attacks a customer like you've said.  He politely asks the customer to calm down and quietly looks into the kid.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: KevShmev on April 22, 2011, 09:24:56 AM
Yeah, personally, if I were the manager, I'd call security and have you barred from ever eating at my McDonalds again. Not because you were wrong, but because, as a manager, no-one treats my employees like that. There are far more respectable ways to handle it and, frankly, screaming obscenities at an employee makes you look like a nutjob, wrong or right.

I'm not a manager, by the way, but have worked in retail before and have seen things like this. I always admired managers who'd stick up for their employees against customers who were screaming at them, justified or not.

Right or wrong how tick handled it, the kid was in the wrong and a manager never attacks a customer like you've said.  He politely asks the customer to calm down and quietly looks into the kid.

I actually agree with PC here.  Calling security is not attacking a customer.  Thinking about this from the manager's point of view, if a customer is willing to scream and yell obscenities at one of my employees over a quarter, what happens if next time he thinks someone shorted him out of a dollar?  Not saying tick would necessarily get violent, but if you're the manager, you don't know him.  All you know is a customer is screaming and yelling at one of your employees over a quarter.  Every customer is not worth saving.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Dimitrius on April 22, 2011, 09:26:33 AM
Was it really necessary to point out that it was a "young black male"? Would it had made a difference if it was a young white male?
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: sonatafanica on April 22, 2011, 09:28:24 AM
what are you saying about young white males dimi
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: skydivingninja on April 22, 2011, 09:28:33 AM
Yeah, personally, if I were the manager, I'd call security and have you barred from ever eating at my McDonalds again. Not because you were wrong, but because, as a manager, no-one treats my employees like that. There are far more respectable ways to handle it and, frankly, screaming obscenities at an employee makes you look like a nutjob, wrong or right.

I'm not a manager, by the way, but have worked in retail before and have seen things like this. I always admired managers who'd stick up for their employees against customers who were screaming at them, justified or not.

Right or wrong how tick handled it, the kid was in the wrong and a manager never attacks a customer like you've said.  He politely asks the customer to calm down and quietly looks into the kid.

This, except we don't know for the sure the kid was in the wrong.  I mean, that scenario Kev presented is always possible.  And if he was in the right, you can't fault him for being nervous/panicky when you've got a guy screaming at you.  But hopefully everything will be resolved and he'll learn a lesson from this if he was indeed swindling you.

And to go on a bit of a tangent because of Kev's point in the last post, Southwest Airlines is famous for putting its employees even before the customers.  That kind of enthusiasm and commitment translates to a positive experience for the customer because they believe in how great their employer is.  Its a good policy that more companies should try to adopt.  
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: antigoon on April 22, 2011, 09:29:10 AM
Was it really necessary to point out that it was a "young black male"? Would it had made a difference if it was a young white male?

he was up to his knees in zero calories
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: KevShmev on April 22, 2011, 09:31:06 AM
I can speak from personal experience that employees usually have little to no respect for management that drops to their knees every time a customer complains about any and everything and throws their employees under the bus every single time, simply to satisfy each and every customer.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: kingshmegland on April 22, 2011, 09:32:49 AM
That's why the manager would look into it.  Either way, if the kid was doing it, he's scared off because he's in the manager's crosshairs or he's dumb enough to continue doing it and he will be caught.  Either way it will be resolved.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Quadrochosis on April 22, 2011, 09:36:36 AM
I can speak from personal experience that employees usually have little to no respect for management that drops to their knees every time a customer complains about any and everything and throws their employees under the bus every single time, simply to satisfy each and every customer.

This. Kev is never wrong.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: ZBomber on April 22, 2011, 09:37:12 AM
what are you saying about young white males dimi

Taking quarters from hard working customers to put toward their fountain pen and paper fund.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: sonatafanica on April 22, 2011, 09:38:37 AM
what are you saying about young white males dimi

Taking quarters from hard working customers to put toward their fountain pen and paper fund.

I use my quarter profits for buying dank nugs to smoke with sloppy bitches
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Dimitrius on April 22, 2011, 09:39:16 AM
what are you saying about young white males dimi

Taking quarters from hard working customers to put toward their fountain pen and paper fund.
Just so they can go an make a internet comic and sell T-shirts that never get to their destination on time.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: ZBomber on April 22, 2011, 09:39:38 AM
what are you saying about young white males dimi

Taking quarters from hard working customers to put toward their fountain pen and paper fund.

I use my quarter profits for buying dank nugs to smoke with sloppy bitches

Fuck yeah bro you wanna go hit up 711 later and fuck some slushies and drink some hos?
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Perpetual Change on April 22, 2011, 09:41:24 AM
I can speak from personal experience that employees usually have little to no respect for management that drops to their knees every time a customer complains about any and everything and throws their employees under the bus every single time, simply to satisfy each and every customer.

Yeah, that's what I was getting it. Best thing to do, from a customer's pov, is to politely ask to see a manager and then pull him aside quietly to explain the situation.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: kingshmegland on April 22, 2011, 09:44:04 AM
I can speak from personal experience that employees usually have little to no respect for management that drops to their knees every time a customer complains about any and everything and throws their employees under the bus every single time, simply to satisfy each and every customer.

Taking a concern  and being fair to both isn't wrong.  It's how you handle it.  I never said to take the customer's side, but you have to handle the situation with a firm but calming nature to both sides.

Me personally would as tick now to swear at my employees and ask him to calmly explain the situation,

The kid I would pull into my office and tell him I hope he wasn't doing what the customer said and that as long as he did his job, he'd be ok.  But I'd let him know I'd have to look into it which would let me see if the customer was full of it or there was something to it.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: El Barto on April 22, 2011, 11:04:34 AM
Yeah, personally, if I were the manager, I'd call security and have you barred from ever eating at my McDonalds again. Not because you were wrong, but because, as a manager, no-one treats my employees like that. There are far more respectable ways to handle it and, frankly, screaming obscenities at an employee makes you look like a nutjob, wrong or right.

I'm not a manager, by the way, but have worked in retail before and have seen things like this. I always admired managers who'd stick up for their employees against customers who were screaming at them, justified or not.
Much has been written about "the customer's always right" being one of the worst business maxims ever invented.  Bad customers aren't worth keeping and good employees are hard to come by.  If you're in a business where customers are expensive to create, then there are ways to handle the situation to keep the good ones, lose the bad ones, and still stick up for your employee, who nine times out of ten did nothing wrong. 

I work for a company who will always side with the customer, and it's annoying as fuck.  I understand why they do it, and in our case, customers actually are pretty expensive to obtain, so I don't let it bother me.  However, since I understand that there's is the most simpleminded of practices,  I'm not exactly filled with respect when we give customers shit for free.  The way I see it, taking the counter-intuitive approach and telling a customer to fuck off falls under "advanced business strategy,"  and as we all know, I think the average guy is a moron.  Most people will do the intuitive thing and bend over any time a customer threatens them.  In the end, they get stuck with customers who are only there because they know they can push people around, and employees with no work ethic left since it just doesn't matter anymore.  Learning to handle both good and bad customers intelligently is beyond the scope of the average manager.

As for Tick, I would have taken his side anyway, just because nobody's going to make that kind of scene over a quarter.  If he'd said he got shorted $5 it would have been a different story.  That sounds more like a crappy customer trying to rip me off, but freaking out of a quarter is clearly more of a principle than a scam.

Southwest Airlines is famous for putting its employees even before the customers.  That kind of enthusiasm and commitment translates to a positive experience for the customer because they believe in how great their employer is.  Its a good policy that more companies should try to adopt. 
Herb's a pretty neat guy for a variety of reasons, and I certainly approve of his policy there,  but to be fair, SWA will have no problem getting customers for a variety of reasons, so it's really a different situation.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: darkshade on April 22, 2011, 11:36:18 AM
I got charged for 2 10 piece nuggets instead of a 20 piece, which is a 2 or 3 dollar difference, when I ordered a 20 piece. I didnt realize it until after I ate them, and complained and got 20 pieces for free :neverusethis:
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on April 22, 2011, 11:44:14 AM
While tick could've reacted less, he was right to do what he did. As was already stated, quarters can add up.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: TempusVox on April 22, 2011, 12:12:55 PM
Reminds me of a comedian I once saw (can't remember who it was) that was talking about fast food workers, and described a black guy working at McDonalds with this dialogue:

"Hey man! Why ya'll got me working fries today? You know I can't make no money if I ain't workin' the register."   :lol
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Quadrochosis on April 22, 2011, 03:23:08 PM
The amount of underlying racism in this thread from some of our most senior members is really disheartening.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: j on April 22, 2011, 03:32:01 PM
What was this kid trying to pull like an amateur version of that scam they do in Office Space?  "I'll take a quarter from every customer, and eventually I'll make MILLIONS!" :lol

Anyway, could have called him out on it without unloading on the kid.  JMO.

I wouldn't go back to that McDonalds unless you like spit burgers.

Also this is the most important thing that's been said in this thread.

The amount of underlying racism in this thread from some of our most senior members is really disheartening.

 :facepalm:  Oh Jesus.

-J
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Tick on April 22, 2011, 03:45:34 PM
Wow, the reactions are mind blowing. If anyone thinks its about 75 cents you are clueless.
This is about a thief. A criminal. A douchebag who is scamming people and giving his employer a black eye. If you think otherwise, your wrong.
I was shortchanged 3 consecutive times exactly one quarter. 3 TIMES IN A ROW. This was not accident. I can say the word fuck to a little cock sucking thief and feel quite justified, and I did.
Being ripped off repeatedly is a feeling a violation and I don't like it at all. Then the kid lies and tells me I dropped the change to add injury to insult. I didn't drop anything. The kid is ripping people off and I'm a bad guy for swearing. Yeah, ok.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: bosk1 on April 22, 2011, 03:46:45 PM
black eye.

STOP BEING RACIST!
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Tick on April 22, 2011, 03:46:55 PM
I personally wouldn't have freaked out like you did. Is getting ripped off 75 cents really the end of the world? Just politely ask next time, and maybe you wouldn't get such an attitude back. If I were the kid and you freaked out on me over a quarter, I would have probably laughed in your face. (not saying I condone his actions, or that I'd do it myself)
You really need to get a clue.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Tick on April 22, 2011, 03:47:45 PM
black eye.

STOP BEING RACIST!
Sorry, an eye of darker persuasion.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on April 22, 2011, 03:48:39 PM
No, you were the bad guy for completely blowing up in the restaurant. There's nothing wrong with calling out a thieving employee. It's quite another to throw a 'tantrum', as it were, in the middle of a restaurant. It's bad for business. What you SHOULD have done is called the manager over IMMEDIATELY and talked it out. Your reaction wasn't called for
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: jsem on April 22, 2011, 03:48:50 PM
Lol. I agree with tick. It has more to do with principles than the actual money.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: bosk1 on April 22, 2011, 03:49:50 PM
No, Quad is right.  You should never yell at Black people.  That's racist.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Quadrochosis on April 22, 2011, 03:51:01 PM
I personally wouldn't have freaked out like you did. Is getting ripped off 75 cents really the end of the world? Just politely ask next time, and maybe you wouldn't get such an attitude back. If I were the kid and you freaked out on me over a quarter, I would have probably laughed in your face. (not saying I condone his actions, or that I'd do it myself)
You really need to get a clue.

I'd say something witty here, but I'd probably be banned for it. Although you won't get in trouble for saying this even though it's a personal attack/namecalling.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on April 22, 2011, 03:52:54 PM
But why did he mention he was black? I can't see him. It doesn't matter. He could be asian or white or mexican or whatever. It's the sort of thing I'd hear my grandparents say from time to time. Like saying, 'that black waiter' somehow automatically explains the bad service they supposedly got (at this point during the meal i'd look away pointedly, clearly embarrassed to be in their company).

Quad's point is that it doesn't matter, and the fact that he draws attention to it APPEARS to have some sort of racial undertones.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: The Degenerate on April 22, 2011, 03:55:43 PM
your wrong
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: ZBomber on April 22, 2011, 03:56:40 PM
No, Quad is right.  You should never yell at Black people.  That's racist.

 ::) Wow, this post was absolutely surprising.



Quad was saying that he shouldn't have flipped out at the employee, but remained calm.

And I for one don't see why tick felt the need to specify it was a black person. I doubt he would have included "white" in the description of the person if they were Caucasian.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: ClairvoyantCat on April 22, 2011, 03:59:24 PM
Seriously.  I don't really want to defend Tick in this thread, but I have to say that I think that him using the word "black" was just his way of saying that he recognized the guy.  Tick can account for whether or not he actually meant that it made a difference that the guy was black, but I really don't think that was the case.  Out of all the things that he may have said that could start a big argument, this isn't one of them. 


I think he just used a poor choice of wording, and before you know it everyone is up to their knees in zero calories. 


Given, pertaining to his post description, in my opinion it sounds like he acted a bit childish.  But I don't think he meant to be racist.  Not here. 
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: bosk1 on April 22, 2011, 03:59:39 PM
I don't see anything in the initial post linking it to the person's race.  He was just describing the kid, and the fact that he is Black provides part of the description.  He also said he is a young kid.  Does that imply all young kids steal?  He said it was a male.  Was he implying all males steal?  He also said he was working the drive through.  Do all drive-through employees steal?  

There's nothing wrong whatsoever with mentioning race.  The only thing wrong I see is that people want to imagine racism where there is none.  That makes me more ashamed than anything else I've seen in this thread.



@Z:  Yeah, one of Quad's posts was saying Tick shouldn't have flipped out, but remained calm.  And that's fine.  Agree or disagree, that's a valid position.  But then he said this crap:

The amount of underlying racism in this thread from some of our most senior members is really disheartening.

Sorry, but in the context of this thread, that's just stupid.  There has been nothing racist posted in this thread.  The fact that Quad is a really intelligent, well-spoken poster makes that kind of stupid accusation even more disappointing.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Dimitrius on April 22, 2011, 03:59:43 PM
But why did he mention he was black? I can't see him. It doesn't matter. He could be asian or white or mexican or whatever. It's the sort of thing I'd hear my grandparents say from time to time. Like saying, 'that black waiter' somehow automatically explains the bad service they supposedly got (at this point during the meal i'd look away pointedly, clearly embarrassed to be in their company).

Quad's point is that it doesn't matter, and the fact that he draws attention to it APPEARS to have some sort of racial undertones.
No, Quad is right.  You should never yell at Black people.  That's racist.

 ::) Wow, this post was absolutely surprising.



Quad was saying that he shouldn't have flipped out at the employee, but remained calm.

And I for one don't see why tick felt the need to specify it was a black person. I doubt he would have included "white" in the description of the person if they were Caucasian.

Agreed with both posts.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Ravenheart on April 22, 2011, 04:00:51 PM
I can't add anything new here. Your reaction was unwarranted and obscene, and the customer isn't always right.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: AcidLameLTE on April 22, 2011, 04:01:08 PM
Fucking black people. Always providing us white folk with bad customer service.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: ehra on April 22, 2011, 04:01:38 PM
No, you were the bad guy for completely blowing up in the restaurant. There's nothing wrong with calling out a thieving employee. It's quite another to throw a 'tantrum', as it were, in the middle of a restaurant. It's bad for business. What you SHOULD have done is called the manager over IMMEDIATELY and talked it out. Your reaction wasn't called for

As far as I understand it, Tick flipped out from his car at the drive-through.

edit: Reread the OP and he was definitely in his car at the time. Not in the middle of the restaurant.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: glaurung on April 22, 2011, 04:02:30 PM
Tick was completely justified in yelling at the employee and his manager.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: El Barto on April 22, 2011, 04:03:48 PM
The amount of underlying racism in this thread from some of our most senior members is really disheartening.

Sorry, but in the context of this thread, that's just stupid.  There has been nothing racist posted in this thread.  The fact that Quad is a really intelligent, well-spoken poster makes that kind of stupid accusation even more disappointing.
I actually thought that was in reference to TV's joke.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on April 22, 2011, 04:04:01 PM
No, you were the bad guy for completely blowing up in the restaurant. There's nothing wrong with calling out a thieving employee. It's quite another to throw a 'tantrum', as it were, in the middle of a restaurant. It's bad for business. What you SHOULD have done is called the manager over IMMEDIATELY and talked it out. Your reaction wasn't called for

As far as I understand it, Tick flipped out from his car at the drive-through.

edit: Reread the OP and he was definitely in his car at the time. Not in the middle of the restaurant.

Holding up the line then. I could have sworn he was inside... But either way, the reaction was over the top.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Tick on April 22, 2011, 04:04:27 PM
Lol. I agree with tick. It has more to do with principles than the actual money.
Thank you for getting it. It is not about 75 cents.

Seriously though, its not like I lost my mind on the kid. I merely firmly voiced my displeasure is way he knew I was not happy I was being ripped off continuously. Yes I added an f bomb because frankly I was pissed off for being robbed.
It is so not about 75 cents.
Lastly. Anyone who called me out on the kid being black has a point. I did not have to mention it, but I just chose to.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: ehra on April 22, 2011, 04:06:02 PM
No, you were the bad guy for completely blowing up in the restaurant. There's nothing wrong with calling out a thieving employee. It's quite another to throw a 'tantrum', as it were, in the middle of a restaurant. It's bad for business. What you SHOULD have done is called the manager over IMMEDIATELY and talked it out. Your reaction wasn't called for

As far as I understand it, Tick flipped out from his car at the drive-through.

edit: Reread the OP and he was definitely in his car at the time. Not in the middle of the restaurant.

Holding up the line then. I could have sworn he was inside... But either way, the reaction was over the top.

Why? The guy was ripping him and probably everyone else off, the amount doesn't matter (although I'm sure the manager wouldn't think that a lost quarter off every customer that guy serves is insignificant). We're really going to dedicate another thread to bashing Tick, this time for yelling at a thief?
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Tick on April 22, 2011, 04:06:40 PM
No, you were the bad guy for completely blowing up in the restaurant. There's nothing wrong with calling out a thieving employee. It's quite another to throw a 'tantrum', as it were, in the middle of a restaurant. It's bad for business. What you SHOULD have done is called the manager over IMMEDIATELY and talked it out. Your reaction wasn't called for

As far as I understand it, Tick flipped out from his car at the drive-through.

edit: Reread the OP and he was definitely in his car at the time. Not in the middle of the restaurant.Holding up the line then. I could have sworn he was inside... But either way, the reaction was over the top.


I was in my car and no one else heard a peep. I was not even that loud from my car, just angry and rightly so.

Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Quadrochosis on April 22, 2011, 04:08:23 PM
Lastly. Anyone who called me out on the kid being black has a point. I did not have to mention it, but I just chose to.

Thank you for your honesty.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: bosk1 on April 22, 2011, 04:09:04 PM
The amount of underlying racism in this thread from some of our most senior members is really disheartening.

Sorry, but in the context of this thread, that's just stupid.  There has been nothing racist posted in this thread.  The fact that Quad is a really intelligent, well-spoken poster makes that kind of stupid accusation even more disappointing.
I actually thought that was in reference to TV's joke.

Oh, I didn't catch that.  But still, that's not even remotely racist.  He was quoting a comedy routine that, honestly, sounds like something I would expect Jamie Fox, Tracy Morgan, or Chris Rock to say in their routines.  
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: jsem on April 22, 2011, 04:09:17 PM
Lastly. Anyone who called me out on the kid being black has a point. I did not have to mention it, but I just chose to.

Thank you for your honesty.
But say the kid was white, and tick chose to mention it. Would you have called it out?
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Tick on April 22, 2011, 04:10:08 PM
Tick was completely justified in yelling at the employee and his manager.
I did not yell at the manager. I was very polite in informing her she has a thief working for her. She was very thankful for what I told her.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Dimitrius on April 22, 2011, 04:10:20 PM
Lastly. Anyone who called me out on the kid being black has a point. I did not have to mention it, but I just chose to.

Thank you for your honesty.
But say the kid was white, and tick chose to mention it. Would you have called it out?
I personally would have, because in the context of this story the color of the skin the kid has is completely irrelevant.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Ravenheart on April 22, 2011, 04:11:01 PM
This thread is now about the synthpop/new wave band New Order.




New Order were an English musical group formed in 1980 by Bernard Sumner (vocals, guitars, synthesizers), Peter Hook (bass, backing vocals, synthesizers) and Stephen Morris (drums, electronic drums, synthesizers). New Order was formed by the remaining members of Joy Division following the suicide of vocalist Ian Curtis. They were soon joined by keyboard player Gillian Gilbert.

New Order combined new wave and electronic dance, and became one of the most critically acclaimed and highly influential bands of the 1980s. Though New Order's early years were shadowed by the legacy of Joy Division, their immersion, with help from Morris D. Temple, in the New York City club scene of the early 1980s increased their knowledge of dance music. The band's 1983 hit "Blue Monday" saw them fully embrace dance music, synthesizers and drum machines, and is the best-selling 12-inch single of all time. New Order were the flagship band for Factory Records, and their minimalist album sleeves and non-image reflected the label's aesthetic of doing whatever the relevant parties wanted to do, including an aversion to including singles as album tracks. The band has often been acclaimed by fans, critics and other musicians as a highly influential force in the alternative rock, dance and rave music scenes.

New Order were on hiatus between 1993 and 1998, during which time the members participated in various side-projects. The band reconvened in 1998, and in 2001 released Get Ready, their first album in eight years. In 2005, Phil Cunningham (guitars, synthesizers) replaced Gilbert, who had left the group due to family commitments. In 2007, Peter Hook left the band and stated that he and Sumner had no further plans to work together. Sumner revealed in 2009 that he no longer wishes to make music as New Order.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: bosk1 on April 22, 2011, 04:11:40 PM
...in the context of this story the color of the skin the kid has is completely irrelevant.

Yes, it was.  And so was the fact that he was young.  And that he was male.  So?




EDIT:  Er...I mean...New Order!  Yay!  :D  :myungwoot:
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: glaurung on April 22, 2011, 04:12:09 PM
Tick was completely justified in yelling at the employee and his manager.
I did not yell at the manager. I was very polite in informing her she has a thief working for her. She was very thankful for what I told her.

Oh, even better then.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: jsem on April 22, 2011, 04:12:36 PM
(https://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ0ZLt5brXLF3KC4sJBND3Xs5b9qnoQbxaXuEIxzhsgRDFhjsAHSA&t=1)


Lastly. Anyone who called me out on the kid being black has a point. I did not have to mention it, but I just chose to.

Thank you for your honesty.
But say the kid was white, and tick chose to mention it. Would you have called it out?
I personally would have, because in the context of this story the color of the skin the kid has is completely irrelevant.
Then Dimitrus, you're a consistent guy and I respect you for it.  :tup
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: ricky on April 22, 2011, 04:12:40 PM
go to a different mcdonalds?
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: sonatafanica on April 22, 2011, 04:13:04 PM
Lastly. Anyone who called me out on the kid being black has a point. I did not have to mention it, but I just chose to.

Thank you for your honesty.
But say the kid was white, and tick chose to mention it. Would you have called it out?

fucking what


I would, I know that much

a white guy stealing something, give me a break
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: bosk1 on April 22, 2011, 04:13:09 PM
Tick was completely justified in yelling at the employee and his manager.
I did not yell at the manager. I was very polite in informing her she has a thief working for her. She was very thankful for what I told her.

Oh, even better then.

:offtopic:  We're talking about New Order now.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: ehra on April 22, 2011, 04:13:32 PM
Lastly. Anyone who called me out on the kid being black has a point. I did not have to mention it, but I just chose to.

Thank you for your honesty.
But say the kid was white, and tick chose to mention it. Would you have called it out?
I personally would have, because in the context of this story the color of the skin the kid has is completely irrelevant.

So was the first sentence of the OP.

What the fuck, Tick? You think I care about your lunch habits?
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: ZBomber on April 22, 2011, 04:13:43 PM
I hate when threads move so fast and you just finish typing up a long post and someone has already stated what you were going to say.  :lol
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Dimitrius on April 22, 2011, 04:13:57 PM
...in the context of this story the color of the skin the kid has is completely irrelevant.

Yes, it was.  And so was the fact that he was young.  And that he was male.  So?
Yeah, that's completely irrelevant also.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: bosk1 on April 22, 2011, 04:14:24 PM
I hate when threads move so fast and you just finish typing up a long post and someone has already stated what you were going to say.  :lol

No kidding.  :lolpalm:
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: jsem on April 22, 2011, 04:14:28 PM
Where do I start with these guys, which album should I get?
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: AcidLameLTE on April 22, 2011, 04:16:24 PM
Now, everyone is complaining at tick for the black thing but what people should be having at a go at him for is for buying food at McDonalds.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Ravenheart on April 22, 2011, 04:16:39 PM
Tick was completely justified in yelling at the employee and his manager.
I did not yell at the manager. I was very polite in informing her she has a thief working for her. She was very thankful for what I told her.

Oh, even better then.

:offtopic:  We're talking about New Order now.
Yeah, come on, guys.



I think my favorite New Order album is Power, Corruption, & Lies. None of their albums are weak, but PCL just has so many goodies like Age of Consent, Blue Monday, and Leave Me Alone. And the synths are ridiculously infectious. Brotherhood is the runner-up.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: El Barto on April 22, 2011, 04:17:18 PM
The amount of underlying racism in this thread from some of our most senior members is really disheartening.

Sorry, but in the context of this thread, that's just stupid.  There has been nothing racist posted in this thread.  The fact that Quad is a really intelligent, well-spoken poster makes that kind of stupid accusation even more disappointing.
I actually thought that was in reference to TV's joke.

Oh, I didn't catch that.  But still, that's not even remotely racist.  He was quoting a comedy routine that, honestly, sounds like something I would expect Jamie Fox, Tracy Morgan, or Chris Rock to say in their routines.  
I figured Chris Rock.  Never payed any attention to the other two.

I didn't think much of it, but I did find it fairly conspicuous when Tick mentioned he was black.  You might be onto something that it's unfortunate that we automatically notice such things, but it is what it is.  Nothing racist, just noticeable.  Then TV's joke.  Again, nothing racist there.  However, TV's joke after Tick's mentioning of the thief being black actually did create a bit of an undertone to the thread.  Nothing that would have offended me, but it was there.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: bosk1 on April 22, 2011, 04:17:50 PM
Where do I start with these guys, which album should I get?

I recommend Brotherhood.  Unless you think that it having the word "Brother" in it is a reference to Black people.  In that case, I would recommend Substance.  Uh...unless you think it is a reference to Black people selling drugs.  In which case...uh...just go with a Symphony X record instead, 'k?
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Ravenheart on April 22, 2011, 04:19:45 PM
Bizzare Love Triangle is such a good song.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: bosk1 on April 22, 2011, 04:21:24 PM
I didn't think much of it, but I did find it fairly conspicuous when Tick mentioned he was black.  You might be onto something that it's unfortunate that we automatically notice such things, but it is what it is.  Nothing racist, just noticeable.  Then TV's joke.  Again, nothing racist there.  However, TV's joke after Tick's mentioning of the thief being black actually did create a bit of an undertone to the thread.  Nothing that would have offended me, but it was there.

I guess.  I just think people are being too sensitive, and people who don't even have a right to be.  If someone who actually is Black came into the thread and said he/she was offended, that might be a different story.  But even then...  Well, never mind.  This isn't really worth the fuss.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: kingshmegland on April 22, 2011, 04:22:10 PM
Lebanese & Irish guy telling you all to cut it out or else. :lol
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: El Barto on April 22, 2011, 04:24:46 PM
I didn't think much of it, but I did find it fairly conspicuous when Tick mentioned he was black.  You might be onto something that it's unfortunate that we automatically notice such things, but it is what it is.  Nothing racist, just noticeable.  Then TV's joke.  Again, nothing racist there.  However, TV's joke after Tick's mentioning of the thief being black actually did create a bit of an undertone to the thread.  Nothing that would have offended me, but it was there.

I guess.  I just think people are being too sensitive, and people who don't even have a right to be.  If someone who actually is Black came into the thread and said he/she was offended, that might be a different story.  But even then...  Well, never mind.  This isn't really worth the fuss.
Yeah, I'm actually more freaked out to find that I somehow ended up defending both Tick and Quad in the same thread.  Kind of disorienting, actually.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: bosk1 on April 22, 2011, 04:25:18 PM
:lol  All I know is, thanks to this thread, there's no way I'm going with the first caption that came to mind in the caption thread.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: ariich on April 22, 2011, 04:27:41 PM
Now, everyone is complaining at tick for the black thing but what people should be having at a go at him for is for buying food at McDonalds.
Yeah seriously.

Eat some proper food, tick.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on April 22, 2011, 04:29:07 PM
I don't see anything in the initial post linking it to the person's race.  He was just describing the kid, and the fact that he is Black provides part of the description.  He also said he is a young kid.  Does that imply all young kids steal?  He said it was a male.  Was he implying all males steal?  He also said he was working the drive through.  Do all drive-through employees steal?  

There's nothing wrong whatsoever with mentioning race.  The only thing wrong I see is that people want to imagine racism where there is none.  That makes me more ashamed than anything else I've seen in this thread.



@Z:  Yeah, one of Quad's posts was saying Tick shouldn't have flipped out, but remained calm.  And that's fine.  Agree or disagree, that's a valid position.  But then he said this crap:

The amount of underlying racism in this thread from some of our most senior members is really disheartening.

Sorry, but in the context of this thread, that's just stupid.  There has been nothing racist posted in this thread.  The fact that Quad is a really intelligent, well-spoken poster makes that kind of stupid accusation even more disappointing.

This is the most level-headed post in the entire thread.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: kingshmegland on April 22, 2011, 04:30:20 PM
Every time tick post it causes a shitstorm over nothing.  I suggest whenever you read tick's post read it in Archie Bunker's voice as to disarm your  rage.  He means well, it's just he has an Archie Bunker way of typing it. :lol
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: bosk1 on April 22, 2011, 04:31:42 PM
I should go back to my Archie Bunker avatar.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Ravenheart on April 22, 2011, 04:32:04 PM
I think it's a sign that everyone should leave it all behind and listen to some New Order.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: ricky on April 22, 2011, 04:33:16 PM
ain't nothin wrong with mcdonalds

check it, in a cheeseburger, you got all the food groups

grains = bun
veggies = pickles
meat = beef
dairy = cheese.

i forgot about fruit, but that dont matter
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: kingshmegland on April 22, 2011, 04:38:13 PM
I should go back to my Archie Bunker avatar.

Yes!
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Tick on April 22, 2011, 04:39:23 PM
Every time tick post it causes a shitstorm over nothing.  I suggest whenever you read tick's post read it in Archie Bunker's voice as to disarm your  rage.  He means well, it's just he has an Archie Bunker way of typing it. :lol
You do have to say, I start some entertaining threads. No matter what I post, it does turn into a shitstorm.

Here is the reality of the thread.
A thief is scamming customers repeatedly and chose me as a victim on several occasions.
It is not about the fact I was stern towards him from my car for ripping me off every time I go through the drive through, or the fact I said fuck while calling him out for being a douche.

I am not the bad guy here despite other thoughts to the contrary.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: ariich on April 22, 2011, 04:39:54 PM
ain't nothin wrong with mcdonalds

check it, in a cheeseburger, you got all the food groups

grains = bun
veggies = pickles
meat = beef
dairy = cheese.

i forgot about fruit, but that dont matter
Dunno about you, but I always have a banana in my cheeseburger.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: ClairvoyantCat on April 22, 2011, 04:42:20 PM
I don't think you're the bad guy, Tick.  I just think there is a better way to respond to a situation like this.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: kingshmegland on April 22, 2011, 04:42:55 PM
Every time tick post it causes a shitstorm over nothing.  I suggest whenever you read tick's post read it in Archie Bunker's voice as to disarm your  rage.  He means well, it's just he has an Archie Bunker way of typing it. :lol
You do have to say, I start some entertaining threads. No matter what I post, it does turn into a shitstorm.

Here is the reality of the thread.
A thief is scamming customers repeatedly and chose me as a victim on several occasions.
It is not about the fact I was stern towards him from my car for ripping me off every time I go through the drive through, or the fact I said fuck while calling him out for being a douche.

I am not the bad guy here despite other thoughts to the contrary.

Oh absolutely tick.  It's just the way you type that riles the younins.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: j on April 22, 2011, 04:59:48 PM
Tick may be a great human being or he may be in the KKK...I don't care.  Believe it or not, skin color is a useful physical descriptor that is readily apparent.  The racist witch hunt going on in this country (and in this thread) is just another part of the problem.

-J
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Aramatheis on April 22, 2011, 05:02:34 PM
Taking quarters from hard working customers to put toward their fountain pen and paper fund.

I use my quarter profits for buying dank nugs to smoke with sloppy bitches

I laughed pretty damn hard at this. :lol
I know this is the wrong thread, but I appreciate sonatafanica for his humour.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: ClairvoyantCat on April 22, 2011, 05:04:55 PM
ain't nothin wrong with mcdonalds

check it, in a cheeseburger, you got all the food groups

grains = bun
veggies = pickles
meat = beef
dairy = cheese.

i forgot about fruit, but that dont matter

The only worthwhile post in this thread.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on April 22, 2011, 05:20:40 PM
No, you were the bad guy for completely blowing up in the restaurant. There's nothing wrong with calling out a thieving employee. It's quite another to throw a 'tantrum', as it were, in the middle of a restaurant. It's bad for business. What you SHOULD have done is called the manager over IMMEDIATELY and talked it out. Your reaction wasn't called for

As far as I understand it, Tick flipped out from his car at the drive-through.

edit: Reread the OP and he was definitely in his car at the time. Not in the middle of the restaurant.

Holding up the line then. I could have sworn he was inside... But either way, the reaction was over the top.

Why? The guy was ripping him and probably everyone else off, the amount doesn't matter (although I'm sure the manager wouldn't think that a lost quarter off every customer that guy serves is insignificant). We're really going to dedicate another thread to bashing Tick, this time for yelling at a thief?

It sounds harsher in the OP. And this has nothing to do with bashing tick. I was merely stating my opinion that I felt he overreacted
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: bosk1 on April 22, 2011, 05:29:01 PM
Why do you hate old white people, PLM?  Are you racist or ageist?  I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on April 22, 2011, 05:34:52 PM
i didn't realize we weren't being serious anymore :lol
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: bosk1 on April 22, 2011, 05:35:44 PM
:hearts:
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Ultimetalhead on April 22, 2011, 05:44:33 PM
Hey bosk, you need to upgrade to pro today. :neverusethis:
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Jamesman42 on April 22, 2011, 05:52:09 PM
As a manager that has been in many similar situations working the drive thru, I've had complaints about my employees working the DT. It is absolutely no help to yell because it creates unneeded tension.

That said, I understand the mess. Somebody is ripping you off. Maybe a tiny bit, but it's the principle of the matter. That kid doesn't have much integrity doing what he is doing. If that happened where I work, we would move him off the register and to where there is no money handling, and, depending on the severity or amount, would get him audited. Yeah, my job doesn't play around.

Tick, as a manager for about 5 years in food service, I'd say next time just get the manager and be calm. I know it's such a stupid situation and can anger people, but a good manager will help you out. A bad manager? Then you call the corporate office and complain. Gah, I am too familiar with this...I've never had a complaint on me (because I know how to calm people down), but I have seen many managers get written up for not taking care of the customer.


Every customer is not worth saving.

Corporate higher-ups would like to have a word with you.



Oh, by the way, to me, it seemed like Tick was using "black" as a descriptor. Like, that was how we was able to see the pattern more easily in how his quarters were not being handed to him. All the black people I work with are cool and call me the "n" word all the time and I call them it also, and we pick on our Jewish employee and he's cool with it. One of the black girls said she'd have my baby, actually, so hey.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Aramatheis on April 22, 2011, 06:05:09 PM
One of the black girls said she'd have my baby, actually, so hey.

But really, who here on this forum wouldn't?
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Jamesman42 on April 22, 2011, 06:06:01 PM
One of the black girls said she'd have my baby, actually, so hey.

But really, who here on this forum wouldn't?

Tick, she might be a quarter pound to light when she is born.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Ravenheart on April 22, 2011, 06:13:44 PM
What does any of this have to do with New Order?
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Aramatheis on April 22, 2011, 06:16:55 PM
One of the black girls said she'd have my baby, actually, so hey.

But really, who here on this forum wouldn't?

Tick, she might be a quarter pound to light when she is born.

:lol
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: lonestar on April 22, 2011, 07:12:26 PM
Wow, that was an entertaining four pages.  And if this thread is now about New Order, why is it still in GD?
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: glaurung on April 22, 2011, 07:13:56 PM
What are you talking about?

This thread is now about bacon.

(https://img854.imageshack.us/img854/9001/grantmeyourbacon.jpg) (https://img854.imageshack.us/i/grantmeyourbacon.jpg/)
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: lonestar on April 22, 2011, 07:16:56 PM
Ahem...
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=6785.0 (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=6785.0)






The boards cannot handle two.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: glaurung on April 22, 2011, 07:18:15 PM
Lonestar, you of all people should know by now that every thread is a bacon thread.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: dongringo on April 22, 2011, 07:21:42 PM
Same thing happened to me in Mexico City and a taco stand underneath my motel. He skimmed off some of my change and gave me the rest. The first time I just left without giving him a tip. The second time he forced me to confront him. When he denied it I was then forced to talk to his boss, the owner of the place. He went over my bill and change and gave me the change I was ripped off. He started yelling at his employee and I left. Pretty sure he lost his job, but hey, he deserved it. I ate there every night and always gave an appropriate tip, unlike some of the locals. So I was the last person to deserve to get ripped off and the owner knew it. Anyway, a quarter in Mexico City will cover subway fair with unlimited transfers, so I can at least understand the temptation. But a quarter in the U.S. is just pocket change. The McDonald's worker was really bold because he'd have to rip a lot of people off a quarter to make anything.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: JayOctavarium on April 22, 2011, 07:22:28 PM
i didnt read the entire thread... but I dont see anything wrong with the op... i woulda freaked out as well... lol
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Perpetual Change on April 22, 2011, 07:22:34 PM
Tickster, I agree that you were on the right. But don't you see how your reaction could have been more conducive to actually getting something done? Like I said, if I were that manager, I'd take the employees side just based on how mad you were.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Ravenheart on April 22, 2011, 07:24:06 PM
lolno

This thread is about New Order.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Tick on April 22, 2011, 07:25:34 PM
As a manager that has been in many similar situations working the drive thru, I've had complaints about my employees working the DT. It is absolutely no help to yell because it creates unneeded tension.

That said, I understand the mess. Somebody is ripping you off. Maybe a tiny bit, but it's the principle of the matter. That kid doesn't have much integrity doing what he is doing. If that happened where I work, we would move him off the register and to where there is no money handling, and, depending on the severity or amount, would get him audited. Yeah, my job doesn't play around.

Tick, as a manager for about 5 years in food service, I'd say next time just get the manager and be calm. I know it's such a stupid situation and can anger people, but a good manager will help you out. A bad manager? Then you call the corporate office and complain. Gah, I am too familiar with this...I've never had a complaint on me (because I know how to calm people down), but I have seen many managers get written up for not taking care of the customer.


Every customer is not worth saving.

Corporate higher-ups would like to have a word with you.



Oh, by the way, to me, it seemed like Tick was using "black" as a descriptor. Like, that was how we was able to see the pattern more easily in how his quarters were not being handed to him. All the black people I work with are cool and call me the "n" word all the time and I call them it also, and we pick on our Jewish employee and he's cool with it. One of the black girls said she'd have my baby, actually, so hey.
Let me tell you that I am a born salesman and I am quite savvy when it comes to handling people. My reaction to the kid was calculated and by design. I wanted to intimidate him for being a stupid little shit and I was in total control of my temper. I used the f bomb for cause and effect as well, cause I felt it would better drive home my point. Don't keep stealing from me you little idiot. Believe that or don't. Agree with me or don't . That's up to you.
I also think people look to call the race card whenever possible,but painting a picture of who the person was by saying he was black is not racist. Sorry folks but it isn't. Did I have to say he was black? No, but I didn't want someone to picture in there mind an acne faced white dork so I felt it was acceptable to say he was black. If I said it was a woman would that make me sexist for pointing out the person was female? Food for thought.
Anyhoo, this thread is very entertaining and I hope it gets pinned and this discussion carries on way into 2012.

:tick2: (not Rumborak)
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Ravenheart on April 22, 2011, 07:27:45 PM
Tick, what's your favorite New Order album?
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Tick on April 22, 2011, 07:28:41 PM
Same thing happened to me in Mexico City and a taco stand underneath my motel. He skimmed off some of my change and gave me the rest. The first time I just left without giving him a tip. The second time he forced me to confront him. When he denied it I was then forced to talk to his boss, the owner of the place. He went over my bill and change and gave me the change I was ripped off. He started yelling at his employee and I left. Pretty sure he lost his job, but hey, he deserved it. I ate there every night and always gave an appropriate tip, unlike some of the locals. So I was the last person to deserve to get ripped off and the owner knew it. Anyway, a quarter in Mexico City will cover subway fair with unlimited transfers, so I can at least understand the temptation. But a quarter in the U.S. is just pocket change. The McDonald's worker was really bold because he'd have to rip a lot of people off a quarter to make anything.
If he took just one quarter from every customer he served through the drive through every hour, he would at least be making double is hourly wage.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Tick on April 22, 2011, 07:29:37 PM
Tick, what's your favorite New Order album?
The one I'm not listening to at any moment would be my favorite.
:tick2:
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Ravenheart on April 22, 2011, 07:32:23 PM
Tick, what's your favorite New Order album?
The one I'm not listening to at any moment would be my favorite.
:tick2:
You're missing out.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Tick on April 22, 2011, 07:42:37 PM
Tick, what's your favorite New Order album?
The one I'm not listening to at any moment would be my favorite.
:tick2:
You're missing out.
Well, I would say your missing out on a great conversation about , McDonalds, racism, thief's, and the proper way to address one if your robbed repetitively by one.
:tick2:
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: sonatafanica on April 22, 2011, 07:56:08 PM
In a way, aren't we all stealing
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: ClairvoyantCat on April 22, 2011, 08:06:06 PM
In a way, aren't we all stealing

No, only the whites.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Volk9 on April 22, 2011, 08:18:49 PM
I didn't think much of it, but I did find it fairly conspicuous when Tick mentioned he was black.  You might be onto something that it's unfortunate that we automatically notice such things, but it is what it is.  Nothing racist, just noticeable.  Then TV's joke.  Again, nothing racist there.  However, TV's joke after Tick's mentioning of the thief being black actually did create a bit of an undertone to the thread.  Nothing that would have offended me, but it was there.

I guess.  I just think people are being too sensitive, and people who don't even have a right to be.  If someone who actually is Black came into the thread and said he/she was offended, that might be a different story.  But even then...  Well, never mind.  This isn't really worth the fuss.

I'm offended.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: lonestar on April 22, 2011, 08:31:03 PM
Resist the urge, resist the urge...
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: TempusVox on April 22, 2011, 08:42:38 PM
The amount of underlying racism in this thread from some of our most senior members is really disheartening.

Sorry, but in the context of this thread, that's just stupid.  There has been nothing racist posted in this thread.  The fact that Quad is a really intelligent, well-spoken poster makes that kind of stupid accusation even more disappointing.
I actually thought that was in reference to TV's joke.

Oh, I didn't catch that.  But still, that's not even remotely racist.  He was quoting a comedy routine that, honestly, sounds like something I would expect Jamie Fox, Tracy Morgan, or Chris Rock to say in their routines.  
I figured Chris Rock.  Never payed any attention to the other two.

I didn't think much of it, but I did find it fairly conspicuous when Tick mentioned he was black.  You might be onto something that it's unfortunate that we automatically notice such things, but it is what it is.  Nothing racist, just noticeable.  Then TV's joke.  Again, nothing racist there.  However, TV's joke after Tick's mentioning of the thief being black actually did create a bit of an undertone to the thread.  Nothing that would have offended me, but it was there.

WRONG!!! I didn't give a shit if the guy was black, white, asian, hispanic, or American Indian. the undertone you refer to was created by your own mind, not me.  :lol I didn't even realize if the op even mentioned race. The simple fact that the guy was skimming money at the drive thru reminded me of the comedy routine by either Eddie Griffin, or Chris Rock (I cannot remember who it was, but the whole routine was as funny as hell), but my remembrance of the bit, had NOTHING to do with race per se, but about the routine where the guy complained about being on fries and not the register because he couldn't "make no money on fries"; HIS obvious implication that he ALSO skimmed from the till. I ONLY referenced his race because the comedian did as well, and it was the comedians use of overdramtic slang that made the joke especially funny.

People need to get a life and stop being so critical all the time. But perhaps I should have clarified it was either Rock, or Griffin (now I'm wondering if it was Chappelle) and NOT someone like Larry the Cable Guy.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: El Barto on April 22, 2011, 11:41:09 PM
The amount of underlying racism in this thread from some of our most senior members is really disheartening.

Sorry, but in the context of this thread, that's just stupid.  There has been nothing racist posted in this thread.  The fact that Quad is a really intelligent, well-spoken poster makes that kind of stupid accusation even more disappointing.
I actually thought that was in reference to TV's joke.

Oh, I didn't catch that.  But still, that's not even remotely racist.  He was quoting a comedy routine that, honestly, sounds like something I would expect Jamie Fox, Tracy Morgan, or Chris Rock to say in their routines.  
I figured Chris Rock.  Never payed any attention to the other two.

I didn't think much of it, but I did find it fairly conspicuous when Tick mentioned he was black.  You might be onto something that it's unfortunate that we automatically notice such things, but it is what it is.  Nothing racist, just noticeable.  Then TV's joke.  Again, nothing racist there.  However, TV's joke after Tick's mentioning of the thief being black actually did create a bit of an undertone to the thread.  Nothing that would have offended me, but it was there.

WRONG!!! I didn't give a shit if the guy was black, white, asian, hispanic, or American Indian. the undertone you refer to was created by your own mind, not me.  :lol I didn't even realize if the op even mentioned race. The simple fact that the guy was skimming money at the drive thru reminded me of the comedy routine by either Eddie Griffin, or Chris Rock (I cannot remember who it was, but the whole routine was as funny as hell), but my remembrance of the bit, had NOTHING to do with race per se, but about the routine where the guy complained about being on fries and not the register because he couldn't "make no money on fries"; HIS obvious implication that he ALSO skimmed from the till. I ONLY referenced his race because the comedian did as well, and it was the comedians use of overdramtic slang that made the joke especially funny.

People need to get a life and stop being so critical all the time. But perhaps I should have clarified it was either Rock, or Griffin (now I'm wondering if it was Chappelle) and NOT someone like Larry the Cable Guy.  :biggrin:
Bullshit.  The only thing WRONG!!! here is your failure to recognize that people might see two separate posts concerning black people steeling and think it noteworthy.  Your intention behind the joke doesn't matter.  I have no problem with Tick's post or your joke.  It's just that I can recognize how both together might give pause to somebody.  As I already agreed with Bosk, it's a shame that it works that way now, but it does.   

Out of curiosity, if instead of this post I'd recanted the tale of having my wallet taken by a black guy at the airport,  would it still be all in our heads? And if my post was followed by some other DTF'er describing getting mugged by two black guys in Harlem (true story), would the mod staff then start to feel a bit uncomfortable with the turn the thread had taken?  How many anecdotes about being robbed by the black man would it take before it started to constitute a problem?  Surely there's a point where it does, and not everybody is going to agree where that point begins. 
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: KevShmev on April 22, 2011, 11:41:40 PM
Every customer is not worth saving.

Corporate higher-ups would like to have a word with you.

Based on my experiences, most of them are clueless knobheads who have never done grunt work, which is why they always make impractical decisions.  One way to put it is, they are probably book smart, but not street smart.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: AcidLameLTE on April 23, 2011, 01:47:02 AM
Customers are fucking morons. I work part-time in a cinema and you regularly get asked by people (at the box office) what the difference between 3D and 2D films are. I mean, seriously?
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Tick on April 23, 2011, 02:49:04 AM
Customers are fucking morons. I work part-time in a cinema and you regularly get asked by people (at the box office) what the difference between 3D and 2D films are. I mean, seriously?
Tell them that in 3D they are actually part of the film where as in 2D they will just be sitting in there seat watching.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Tick on April 23, 2011, 02:53:51 AM
I didn't think much of it, but I did find it fairly conspicuous when Tick mentioned he was black.  You might be onto something that it's unfortunate that we automatically notice such things, but it is what it is.  Nothing racist, just noticeable.  Then TV's joke.  Again, nothing racist there.  However, TV's joke after Tick's mentioning of the thief being black actually did create a bit of an undertone to the thread.  Nothing that would have offended me, but it was there.

I guess.  I just think people are being too sensitive, and people who don't even have a right to be.  If someone who actually is Black came into the thread and said he/she was offended, that might be a different story.  But even then...  Well, never mind.  This isn't really worth the fuss.

I'm offended.
Mission accomplished.
The amount of underlying racism in this thread from some of our most senior members is really disheartening.

Sorry, but in the context of this thread, that's just stupid.  There has been nothing racist posted in this thread.  The fact that Quad is a really intelligent, well-spoken poster makes that kind of stupid accusation even more disappointing.
I actually thought that was in reference to TV's joke.

Oh, I didn't catch that.  But still, that's not even remotely racist.  He was quoting a comedy routine that, honestly, sounds like something I would expect Jamie Fox, Tracy Morgan, or Chris Rock to say in their routines. 
I figured Chris Rock.  Never payed any attention to the other two.

I didn't think much of it, but I did find it fairly conspicuous when Tick mentioned he was black.  You might be onto something that it's unfortunate that we automatically notice such things, but it is what it is.  Nothing racist, just noticeable.  Then TV's joke.  Again, nothing racist there.  However, TV's joke after Tick's mentioning of the thief being black actually did create a bit of an undertone to the thread.  Nothing that would have offended me, but it was there.

WRONG!!! I didn't give a shit if the guy was black, white, asian, hispanic, or American Indian. the undertone you refer to was created by your own mind, not me.  :lol I didn't even realize if the op even mentioned race. The simple fact that the guy was skimming money at the drive thru reminded me of the comedy routine by either Eddie Griffin, or Chris Rock (I cannot remember who it was, but the whole routine was as funny as hell), but my remembrance of the bit, had NOTHING to do with race per se, but about the routine where the guy complained about being on fries and not the register because he couldn't "make no money on fries"; HIS obvious implication that he ALSO skimmed from the till. I ONLY referenced his race because the comedian did as well, and it was the comedians use of overdramtic slang that made the joke especially funny.

People need to get a life and stop being so critical all the time. But perhaps I should have clarified it was either Rock, or Griffin (now I'm wondering if it was Chappelle) and NOT someone like Larry the Cable Guy.  :biggrin:
Bullshit.  The only thing WRONG!!! here is your failure to recognize that people might see two separate posts concerning black people steeling and think it noteworthy.  Your intention behind the joke doesn't matter.  I have no problem with Tick's post or your joke.  It's just that I can recognize how both together might give pause to somebody.  As I already agreed with Bosk, it's a shame that it works that way now, but it does.   

Out of curiosity, if instead of this post I'd recanted the tale of having my wallet taken by a black guy at the airport,  would it still be all in our heads? And if my post was followed by some other DTF'er describing getting mugged by two black guys in Harlem (true story), would the mod staff then start to feel a bit uncomfortable with the turn the thread had taken?  How many anecdotes about being robbed by the black man would it take before it started to constitute a problem?  Surely there's a point where it does, and not everybody is going to agree where that point begins. 
As I said for those keeping score... Mentioning the person was a black male merely paints the picture in the readers mind of what the person looks like. If it was a goofy red head or a woman I would want to paint that picture to the reader as well. If the reader construes that as racist, then perhaps the reader must examine them self as to why that is?
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Tick on April 23, 2011, 03:03:36 AM
(https://i548.photobucket.com/albums/ii324/jawkjaw/Hamburglar1-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: The Degenerate on April 23, 2011, 03:54:14 AM
lol? :slowclap:
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Gadough on April 23, 2011, 03:59:10 AM
SO YOU LIKE STEALING QUARTERS, HUH

WELL GUESS WHAT, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE IT IF I SAT HERE AND MADE YOU SMOKE AN ENTIRE CARTON OF CIGARETTES

...Oh my God

Did Sonatafanica just quote Family Guy? :omg:
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: tri.ad on April 23, 2011, 04:04:52 AM
That would make him sink to a far deeper level than before if it were true.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Gadough on April 23, 2011, 04:19:36 AM
One of the black girls said she'd have my baby, actually, so hey.

You better hit that shit.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: SPNKr on April 23, 2011, 04:29:42 AM
(https://i548.photobucket.com/albums/ii324/jawkjaw/Hamburglar1-1.jpg)

 :lol
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Jamesman42 on April 23, 2011, 07:30:15 AM
Every customer is not worth saving.

Corporate higher-ups would like to have a word with you.

Based on my experiences, most of them are clueless knobheads who have never done grunt work, which is why they always make impractical decisions.  One way to put it is, they are probably book smart, but not street smart.

Preaching to the choir. Although the current prez of my restaurant job is actually very smart in both senses (I've met and talked with him), and even he disagrees with that idea of saving every customer. Sucks that he has to please a board of knuckleheads.

So glad I am leaving that place in 2 weeks. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Jamesman42 on April 23, 2011, 07:31:03 AM
One of the black girls said she'd have my baby, actually, so hey.

You better hit that shit.

I will, then I'll turn her over and get her pregnant.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Perpetual Change on April 23, 2011, 07:53:21 AM
(https://i548.photobucket.com/albums/ii324/jawkjaw/Hamburglar1-1.jpg)

::sigh::
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on April 23, 2011, 07:56:08 AM
(https://i548.photobucket.com/albums/ii324/jawkjaw/Hamburglar1-1.jpg)
The fuck? :rollin
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: TempusVox on April 23, 2011, 08:59:00 AM
As I said for those keeping score... Mentioning the person was a black male merely paints the picture in the readers mind of what the person looks like. If it was a goofy red head or a woman I would want to paint that picture to the reader as well. If the reader construes that as racist, then perhaps the reader must examine them self as to why that is?

Thank you....in the future please refrain from using any descriptive terms or language whatsoever. Instead you should have said "A being may have involuntarily given another being treasure that the first being may not have otherwise been entitled too."
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Perpetual Change on April 23, 2011, 09:06:55 AM
Way to ignore the more articulate post in the entire thread  ;D
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: lateralus88 on April 23, 2011, 09:29:34 AM
Golly this thread sure is silly.


(https://i.imgur.com/t9R65.jpg)
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Perpetual Change on April 23, 2011, 09:41:56 AM
In honor of this thread, I have once again modified my avatar. In it you see Bob Dylan (again) this time white paint on his face. Drawing attention to the fact that, even today, people feel the need to needlessly point out people's racial qualities.

Dylan was a bad-ass. So ahead of Kiss and Corpse Paint.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: ClairvoyantCat on April 23, 2011, 09:45:02 AM
"something dumbass"
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Perpetual Change on April 23, 2011, 09:47:00 AM
Oh you <3
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Tick on April 23, 2011, 01:00:25 PM
(https://i548.photobucket.com/albums/ii324/jawkjaw/Hamburglar1-1.jpg)
The fuck? :rollin
Is everyone on this board too young to know who the McDonalds hamburgler is?
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on April 23, 2011, 01:00:59 PM
(https://i548.photobucket.com/albums/ii324/jawkjaw/Hamburglar1-1.jpg)
The fuck? :rollin
Is everyone on this board too young to know who the McDonalds hamburgler is?
I know who the hamburglar is. :P
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Tick on April 23, 2011, 01:03:00 PM
As I said for those keeping score... Mentioning the person was a black male merely paints the picture in the readers mind of what the person looks like. If it was a goofy red head or a woman I would want to paint that picture to the reader as well. If the reader construes that as racist, then perhaps the reader must examine them self as to why that is?

Thank you....in the future please refrain from using any descriptive terms or language whatsoever. Instead you should have said "A being may have involuntarily given another being treasure that the first being may not have otherwise been entitled too."
Amen, TV!
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Tick on April 23, 2011, 01:03:46 PM
(https://i548.photobucket.com/albums/ii324/jawkjaw/Hamburglar1-1.jpg)
The fuck? :rollin
Is everyone on this board too young to know who the McDonalds hamburgler is?
I know who the hamburglar is. :P
Just checking, cause I'm guessing some do not.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Rina on April 23, 2011, 01:05:50 PM
(https://i548.photobucket.com/albums/ii324/jawkjaw/Hamburglar1-1.jpg)
The fuck? :rollin
Is everyone on this board too young to know who the McDonalds hamburgler is?
I know who the hamburglar is. :P
Just checking, cause I'm guessing some do not.

I personally fear for the generation that is not intimately familiar with said Hamburglar.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Tick on April 23, 2011, 01:11:01 PM
I just want to reiterate one more time for those who don't bother to read much of a thread...
My anger was controlled and calculated. I did what I did for cause and effect. I purposely threw an F bomb in my design to punctuate what I said to him. The little shit needs to straighten up and fly right or his petty bullshit will lead to bigger stupider shit. Saying politely, "excuse me, this is the third time you shorted me a quarter?" was NOT going to cut it. Sometimes you need to throw a scare into someone, and I felt he needed one.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Tick on April 23, 2011, 01:25:00 PM
In honor of this thread, I have once again modified my avatar. In it you see Bob Dylan (again) this time white paint on his face. Drawing attention to the fact that, even today, people feel the need to needlessly point out people's racial qualities.

Dylan was a bad-ass. So ahead of Kiss and Corpse Paint.
If you think that's what its about maybe your a racist? You can mention what a person looks like PC. Your avatar is ridiculous and so is your melodramatic stance over the whole thing.

:tick2:
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: ClairvoyantCat on April 23, 2011, 02:34:37 PM
Your avatar is ridiculous

You know what else is ridiculous?

:tick2:
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Quadrochosis on April 23, 2011, 02:36:41 PM
Your avatar is ridiculous

(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/forumavatars/avatar_2148.jpg)
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Ravenheart on April 23, 2011, 02:40:36 PM
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/8a/TICK_COMIC_CON_EXTRAVAGANZA_1.jpg/250px-TICK_COMIC_CON_EXTRAVAGANZA_1.jp)
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: AcidLameLTE on April 23, 2011, 02:44:33 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/Oecld.png)
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: zxlkho on April 23, 2011, 02:44:58 PM
:rollin :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: ClairvoyantCat on April 23, 2011, 02:45:28 PM
(https://i842.photobucket.com/albums/zz346/dtismajesty/Tick.jpg?t=1303591513)




Ninja'd, dammit
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: lonestar on April 23, 2011, 02:51:29 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/Oecld.png)
(https://i842.photobucket.com/albums/zz346/dtismajesty/Tick.jpg?t=1303591513)
:clap:
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: ariich on April 23, 2011, 03:01:07 PM
This thread just took a turn for the AWESOME. :lol
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Aramatheis on April 23, 2011, 03:06:59 PM
I just want to reiterate one more time for those who don't bother to read much of a thread...

You know, the more you reiterate, the less this goes away..
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Tick on April 23, 2011, 03:29:58 PM
I just want to reiterate one more time for those who don't bother to read much of a thread...

You know, the more you reiterate, the less this goes away..
I don't want it to go away. I want it pinned so I we can post in it everyday until the end of time! :metal
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Tick on April 23, 2011, 03:30:41 PM
This thread just took a turn for the even more AWESOME. :lol
:tick2:
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Tick on April 23, 2011, 03:31:47 PM
Your avatar is ridiculous

(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/forumavatars/avatar_2148.jpg)
White trash Magneto rules! :metal
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Gadough on April 23, 2011, 05:11:42 PM
Why's it gotta be WHITE trash, Tick? HMMM?
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Jamesman42 on April 23, 2011, 05:13:27 PM
I take my trash out in black bags
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: glaurung on April 23, 2011, 05:14:04 PM
Seriously, you could have left the white part out and we'd have gotten the message.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Tick on April 23, 2011, 05:56:01 PM
Why's it gotta be WHITE trash, Tick? HMMM?

Because he is White...and he is trash.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Tick on April 23, 2011, 05:58:06 PM
Seriously, you could have left the white part out and we'd have gotten the message.
I have a message for ya.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Jamesman42 on April 23, 2011, 06:13:34 PM
Ooh, threats!  :corn
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Perpetual Change on April 23, 2011, 06:35:59 PM
In honor of this thread, I have once again modified my avatar. In it you see Bob Dylan (again) this time white paint on his face. Drawing attention to the fact that, even today, people feel the need to needlessly point out people's racial qualities.

Dylan was a bad-ass. So ahead of Kiss and Corpse Paint.
If you think that's what its about maybe your a racist? You can mention what a person looks like PC. Your avatar is ridiculous and so is your melodramatic stance over the whole thing.

:tick2:

For fuck's sake, tick. I haven't been melodramatic at all. You acted completely melodramatically, and if you can't handle people saying that why did you bother posting out your embarrassing behavior here? I usually take your side tick, but the way you can't even react to the subtlest suggestions from others has me thinking maybe its you who need thicker skin, not the board.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: The Degenerate on April 23, 2011, 06:51:03 PM
Is everyone on this board too young to know who the McDonalds hamburgler is?

No, it's just not that funny.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Perpetual Change on April 23, 2011, 06:59:47 PM
Is everyone on this board too young to know who the McDonalds hamburgler is?

No, it's just not that funny.

Yes tick, this is the not the first time this board has failed to laugh at one of your many pictures that are supposed to be funny simply because they involve black people in slightly off beat situations.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: ehra on April 23, 2011, 07:00:34 PM
In honor of this thread, I have once again modified my avatar. In it you see Bob Dylan (again) this time white paint on his face. Drawing attention to the fact that, even today, people feel the need to needlessly point out people's racial qualities.

Dylan was a bad-ass. So ahead of Kiss and Corpse Paint.
If you think that's what its about maybe your a racist? You can mention what a person looks like PC. Your avatar is ridiculous and so is your melodramatic stance over the whole thing.

:tick2:

For fuck's sake, tick. I haven't been melodramatic at all. You acted completely melodramatically, and if you can't handle people saying that why did you bother posting out your embarrassing behavior here? I usually take your side tick, but the way you can't even react to the subtlest suggestions from others has me thinking maybe its you who need thicker skin, not the board.

What about your post was subtle? Or a suggestion?
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Jamesman42 on April 23, 2011, 07:01:21 PM
And what about it was from others?
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Perpetual Change on April 23, 2011, 07:19:02 PM
In honor of this thread, I have once again modified my avatar. In it you see Bob Dylan (again) this time white paint on his face. Drawing attention to the fact that, even today, people feel the need to needlessly point out people's racial qualities.

Dylan was a bad-ass. So ahead of Kiss and Corpse Paint.
If you think that's what its about maybe your a racist? You can mention what a person looks like PC. Your avatar is ridiculous and so is your melodramatic stance over the whole thing.

:tick2:

For fuck's sake, tick. I haven't been melodramatic at all. You acted completely melodramatically, and if you can't handle people saying that why did you bother posting out your embarrassing behavior here? I usually take your side tick, but the way you can't even react to the subtlest suggestions from others has me thinking maybe its you who need thicker skin, not the board.

What about your post was subtle? Or a suggestion?

UH oops.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: ehra on April 23, 2011, 07:21:00 PM
In honor of this thread, I have once again modified my avatar. In it you see Bob Dylan (again) this time white paint on his face. Drawing attention to the fact that, even today, people feel the need to needlessly point out people's racial qualities.

Dylan was a bad-ass. So ahead of Kiss and Corpse Paint.
If you think that's what its about maybe your a racist? You can mention what a person looks like PC. Your avatar is ridiculous and so is your melodramatic stance over the whole thing.

:tick2:

For fuck's sake, tick. I haven't been melodramatic at all. You acted completely melodramatically, and if you can't handle people saying that why did you bother posting out your embarrassing behavior here? I usually take your side tick, but the way you can't even react to the subtlest suggestions from others has me thinking maybe its you who need thicker skin, not the board.

What about your post was subtle? Or a suggestion?

I made plenty of reasonable posts here. You ignored them all. And, frankly, every time someone even suggested that you could have handled it better you jumped down their throat and played the "oh, everyone's beating up tick again" card. This is getting so old. Like I said, I usually sympathize with you, but here I'm 1.) wondering why you posted this at all if you can't handle anything other than everyone agreeing with you and 2.) you seem to be going out of your way to make more enemies.

 :lol
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Perpetual Change on April 23, 2011, 07:23:15 PM
Yeah, I need my morning coffee  ;D

Uh, so wait, I made plenty of subtle and suggestive posts? Were you asking about me?
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: ehra on April 23, 2011, 07:25:36 PM
You were commenting about how he reacts to the "subtlest suggestions from others" and I was wondering what was subtle and where the suggestion was in the post of yours that he had just quoted.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Perpetual Change on April 23, 2011, 07:36:28 PM
There's a lot of posts on the first couple pages from me, Kev, Barto, and so on that were ignored by tick. That's all I'm saying. He seems to be getting really defensive about this, even against people (like me) who were just making suggestions.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Tick on April 23, 2011, 09:33:48 PM
Is everyone on this board too young to know who the McDonalds hamburgler is?

No, it's just not that funny.

Yes tick, this is the not the first time this board has failed to laugh at one of your many pictures that are supposed to be funny simply because they involve black people in slightly off beat situations.
I did not post a picture of a Black person? Perhaps you should stop looking at thew world through your Black colored contacts? and since when are you the judge and jury on what's funny? or the official board spokesman for that matter? You really are drinking to much coffee or redbull or whatever your on.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Phantasmatron on April 23, 2011, 09:37:22 PM
You really are drinking to much coffee or redbull

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Whoa.

Why does the bull have to be red?  Come on, you're not even trying anymore.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Volk9 on April 23, 2011, 09:39:12 PM
 :millahhhh
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Tick on April 23, 2011, 09:46:35 PM
In honor of this thread, I have once again modified my avatar. In it you see Bob Dylan (again) this time white paint on his face. Drawing attention to the fact that, even today, people feel the need to needlessly point out people's racial qualities.

Dylan was a bad-ass. So ahead of Kiss and Corpse Paint.
If you think that's what its about maybe your a racist? You can mention what a person looks like PC. Your avatar is ridiculous and so is your melodramatic stance over the whole thing.

:tick2:

For fuck's sake, tick. I haven't been melodramatic at all. You acted completely melodramatically, and if you can't handle people saying that why did you bother posting out your embarrassing behavior here? I usually take your side tick, but the way you can't even react to the subtlest suggestions from others has me thinking maybe its you who need thicker skin, not the board.
Well, there are many who agree with my reaction to the situation and just because you want to make me mentioning the kid was Black was racist, it does not make it racist, it just makes you off base on the issue. Also, my behavior was anything but embarrassing and I'm sorry you feel otherwise. I handled the situation perfectly as far as I'm concerned and I'm not ashamed of what I did, and would do it again if the situation presented itself.

What you need to do is stop redundantly playing the race card on this one because it does not apply, and your beating a dead horse. If the person was a fat middle aged white woman would you have called me out for mentioning that? Their is absolutely nothing wrong with being descriptive when telling a story to paint a visual in the readers mind. It does NOT mean I mentioned he was black because it had an ounce of bearing on what the kid did. If you think otherwise, your wrong.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: ehra on April 23, 2011, 09:55:41 PM
There's a lot of posts on the first couple pages from me, Kev, Barto, and so on that were ignored by tick. That's all I'm saying. He seems to be getting really defensive about this, even against people (like me) who were just making suggestions.

You changed your picture for no other reason than to give Tick crap for using the word black and then bashed his sense of humor, of course he's going to get defensive. Don't try to pass this off as "just making suggestions."
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: ricky on April 23, 2011, 09:58:31 PM
man, this has turned into a full blown serious discussion.


anyways, i bet if you went again, this wouldn't happen. i think you put his scam to an end.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: kingshmegland on April 23, 2011, 10:01:25 PM
There's a lot of posts on the first couple pages from me, Kev, Barto, and so on that were ignored by tick. That's all I'm saying. He seems to be getting really defensive about this, even against people (like me) who were just making suggestions.

You changed your picture for no other reason than to give Tick crap for using the word black and then bashed his sense of humor, of course he's going to get defensive. Don't try to pass this off as "just making suggestions."

100% correct.  Just leave it alone PC.  I've met tick and he's a good guy.  Yes he types a little brash but it's not meant as a big F' you all.  People need to let this die.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Tick on April 23, 2011, 10:09:13 PM
There's a lot of posts on the first couple pages from me, Kev, Barto, and so on that were ignored by tick. That's all I'm saying. He seems to be getting really defensive about this, even against people (like me) who were just making suggestions.

You changed your picture for no other reason than to give Tick crap for using the word black and then bashed his sense of humor, of course he's going to get defensive. Don't try to pass this off as "just making suggestions."

100% correct.  Just leave it alone PC.  I've met tick and he's a good guy.  Yes he types a little brash but it's not meant as a big F' you all.  People need to let this die.
Thank you both.
PC, I don't really know what your motivation was for posting that avatar was but if you saw that as mature and justifiable, I'd love you to explain why you think it is? That avatar in my mind endorses the notion that your painting as a racist? Why else would you post it?
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: kingshmegland on April 23, 2011, 10:10:16 PM
To razz you tick and to get a response that you just typed to prolong this conversation.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Perpetual Change on April 24, 2011, 12:15:25 AM
OK, I'm gonna try and just answer everything I have to say about the last page in a half in one post. This looks long, but it's not really a rant so...

@erha, my avatar isn't an "insult against tick." It's a comment, in general, on the argument needlessly pointing out color is just a "way of being descriptive." Why do people feel the need to say, "This black guy?" Why does the adjective come before the noun?

My personal rule of thumb is this: if the adjective could have come afterwards while still sounding like its usage is necessary, then it has a point and isn't just baiting people of a certain status. For example, "A black woman named Rosa Parks sat down on a bus when they told her she couldn't" is fine, because you could also say "Rosa Parks, a black woman, sat down on a bus when they told her she couldn't" and the information that she is black is clearly important in both cases. Now, let's change that around. What if I wanted to say "The retard at the baseball took a picture with Cliff Lee."? Would you say that? No, because if you frame it like "The guy at the baseball game, who was retarded, took a picture with Cliff Lee" it'd become obvious how unecessary that information actually is.  

In other words, if you can get away with calling someone a person, then there's no need to use so many descriptors. If you want to use a description, like "The black cashier stole my money" or "The cashier, a black guy, stole my money," you'd better be prepared to at least explain why you're paying such special attention to people's status. It's that simple.

tick's drew attention to details that were obvious, and didn't need to be there at all. He hasn't answered why, other than drawing attention to the fact that "it's a description!" Well, his writing doesn't seem to be filled with superflous descriptions in any other areas, so why the exception when dealing with people of color? I'm not saying "tick is a racist because he's chosen to highlight someone's race when it wasn't necessary at all," but when I read his original post I did ask myself that question. Normally, I wouldn't have brought it up, but others already had so I figured there was no harm in giving my comments as well. Again, knowing tick somewhat, I think it's probably more of a subconscious thing because we've been told "it's okay to talk that way," rather than a conscious decision to single out someone's race. But does make bringing it up any less warranted?

@tick, by extension, I certainly would have called you out if you were too go on mentioning a "fat middle aged person." Is that information necessary, or are you just throwing it in there? If you're just throwing it in there, people are going to ask why you feel it's so important we know all of that.

As far as your behavior goes, if you think you were completely justified that's fine. I'm wondering why your brought it up here at all. Did you want people to talk to you about it because you weren't sure of whether how you acted was in the right? That's what I assumed, so I'm surprised at the hostility you're showing toward people who think you were being a bit immature. Otherwise, if you were so sure that you were in the right, why bother bringing it up and talking about it at such great lengths anyway?

I've read your PM, and I'm sorry if you think my avatar is insulting to you. However, the change in avatar is something that I wanted to do anyway. I've been getting a lot into Dylan lately, and already had a Dylan avatar, and had planned on using his face-paint one eventually, with this thread just serving to remind me that I had wanted to make that change. I also find it ironic that you're calling for the removal of my avatar. You persistently post pictures of black people doing funny "out of the ordinary" things like smiling and laughing at eachother, and the pictures are supposed to be "funny" simply because they involve people, well, being black. Yet I post a picture of a white dude wearing white face paint, and you start trying to get people to play the sympathy card for you.

As far as whether those pictures are funny goes, this whole board has been judge and jury on that before, and I remember it being pretty skewed that very very few people ever think they are. Do you remember that? Do you even want to go there? I remember feeling bad for you during that phase, because while your jokes weren't funny people were doing some nasty things creating alt account and the like.

Again, I'm not saying your sense of humor makes you a racist-- other people are saying I said that but in my posts you won't find it said anywhere. What I'm saying is that it's annoying, and, I don't think it's really necessary. A personal anecdote: my grandpa, Dad, and some of my uncles sort of share in your sense of humor. They'll laugh at things like, say, a picture of a black person eating a watermelon, or a picture of Michelle Obama with a caption in ebonics. They preferace talking about people of color by highlighting that these people are, in fact, people of color; "A black at work...," "A 'brotha' in the mall," etc etc. Are they racist? No, not at all, and that's proven by their actions. It's just like the thread we had awhile ago about people against homosexuality being "bigots." This kind of thing is really more cultural baggage than anything. And, in my opinion, it's an aspect of our culture and the way we talk that I think we should forget about. Have I complained to these people in my family about my feelings on this? Of course. Do I bring it up every time they do so? No, I don't. It's not worth it to. Do I bring it up every time I notice you say something I feel is off-color? No, I don't. In this case, I didn't  bring it up either. Someone else did, and I'm just making a comment on that.

Still, you seem to make a habit of having your feelings hurt, man. I'd say I was sorry, but honestly I think you need to just thicken up. Stuff like this seems to happen on a monthly basis with you and I was always on your side with it, but now that I see how you've turned on me in an instant I'm starting to feel like its you who take this internet nonsense too seriously. Really, I never even called you a racist-- the minute I mentioned that mentioning the guy was black was unnecessary you flipped out and starting talking about how I see everything with "black colored glasses" or something. Defensive a bit?

EDIT: Oh, yeah; this is my last post in this thread. I won't reply to anything said to me, nor will I reply to any PMs on the subject-- so don't even go there.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Xanthul on April 24, 2011, 01:04:03 AM
I will just say one thing: over sensitiveness hurts almost as much as racism. The day people stop giving a fuck about race (and I mean this both ways) is the day we don't have a problem anymore.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: ehra on April 24, 2011, 07:41:49 AM
tick's drew attention to details that were obvious, and didn't need to be there at all. He hasn't answered why, other than drawing attention to the fact that "it's a description!" Well, his writing doesn't seem to be filled with superflous descriptions in any other areas, so why the exception when dealing with people of color?

Let's look at all of the things in Tick's post that are superfluous.

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So every once in awhile I stop at Mcdonalds on my lunch break when I'm in a hurry and didn't bring anything for lunch.

How often and why he stops at McDonalds doesn't matter to the story.

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I order a double cheeseburger and a small fry and it comes out to $2.43 with tax. I went a couple weeks ago and paid with a $5 dollar bill and was handed back $2.32 for change. I drove away and said, I was shortchanged a quarter?

How long ago he went and what he ordered don't need to be there, we could have easily just gotten the point if he talked about how he was shortchanged a quarter.

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So a week later I go back and order the same thing and pay with a 5. Once again I receive $2.32 back instead of the $2.57 I should have. It was the same young Black male on the register. I thought is this kid stupid, or ripping people off? I was annoyed.

He said the kid was young? Why did he bother pointing out that minor detail? Now I'm not pointing any fingers here, but it sounds like something someone who has a thing against young people would say.

Also, who cares that he was annoyed, that it was a week later, or what he eats the same thing all the time? Get on with the story!

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Yesterday I went back for the third time in about 3 weeks and ordered the same thing once more. I hear the kid say, "2.43 please". So I pull up to the window thinking, this kid better hand me back the right change or I'm gonna lose it.

Wow, looks like Tick sure is full of him self thinking that not only do we still care what he has to eat and when, but now he's telling us how he feels at the time! All I care about is what actually happens, Tick, not how it makes you feel.

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I hand him a 5 and he hands me back my change. I look in my hand and see once again I am a quarter short. I say loudly to the closed window... "HEY!"
He opens the window and I look at him and say.."THIS IS THE THIRD FUCKING TIME IN 3 TRIES YOU SHORTCHANGED ME EXACTLY A QUARTER! EITHER YOUR FUCKING STUPID, OR SOMETHING ELSE IS GOING ON HERE! WHAT THE FUCK IS UP WITH YOU!" He panics and says, "I gave you the quarter sir, you dropped it on the ground I swear." I told him, no I did not. I would know if I dropped change out of my hand? I didn't. He says I gave it to you sir. I said, "just give me the fucking quarter now!"
I was so pissed when I drove off it stayed with me. I called this morning and told them they might want to watch this kid cause he is scamming his customers by shortchanging them. I also told his manager that when I called him on it, he panicked and said I dropped the quarter and when I asked him for  another quarter, he produced it immediately. I happen to know you can't open your drawer unless you are making a transaction without a manager. She said, you are correct, you can not. She asked for my name and number and I declined. I said, take my information as credible or don't but this kid is robbing people and he won't get caught because his drawer will never even come up short.
She thanked me repeatedly and said there will be a conversation with her superior about it.
I hope that asshole gets what he deserves.


Technically everything after those first two sentences could be considered completely unnecessary, since the whole point of the story is to show us how he was regularly getting ripped off for a quarter. This is a fucking epilogue.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: glaurung on April 24, 2011, 07:46:14 AM
How is this thread still open?
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: SPNKr on April 24, 2011, 07:48:45 AM
As wide open as a drive-through window.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: The Degenerate on April 24, 2011, 08:01:13 AM
This thread is ridiculous
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: AcidLameLTE on April 24, 2011, 08:05:36 AM
The thread should have stopped at the Photoshops.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: Tick on April 24, 2011, 08:26:38 AM
An open letter to Perpetual Change.... or can I call you, Dr. Phil?

It matters not to me whether or not you respond, I know you will read it and that's good enough for me.

How do I start to adequately respond to an entire page of complete rubbish?

I'll at least try....

1. You have told me describing anything about the said thief is unnecessary?   Man, or woman, short or fat, black or white. None of it needs mention. I don't agree. Would you read a novel about a bunch of generic beings not knowing a thing about any of them?

2. "As far as your behavior goes, if you think you were completely justified that's fine. I'm wondering why your brought it up here at all. Did you want people to talk to you about it because you weren't sure of whether how you acted was in the right?"

Why post the thread to begin with? Well, probably because its a real event in my life I found interesting and found it post worthy. I don't relate to threads about video games and such so I would rather tell a tale of something that happened in my life figuring it might be interesting. Its not because I wanted to know if people would approve of my behavior?

3. Show me once where I requested removal of your avatar? I can't find it? I merely pointed out its tasteless.

4. Also, if your going to accuse me a repeatedly posting pictures of black people or making racial jokes pertaining to black people, you should be prepared to back up those offensive allegations? All I can say, is good luck with that one Doc?
I didn't post a picture of a black person in this thread for a joke so I'm confused as to what your talking about?

Your post in summation is a bunch of rambling nonsense filled with many words, and lacking any substance.
I'll bet I'm not the only one who recognizes that after reading it.
Have a nice day.
Title: Re: Being Scammed At A Local McDonalds...
Post by: ariich on April 24, 2011, 09:08:32 AM
Well this thread was funny for a while but now it's just gotten silly. Everyone chill out already.