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General => Archive => Political and Religious => Topic started by: Ħ on April 05, 2011, 09:24:34 PM
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Still going strong. I don't know how they did without audio Bible's 50 years ago. :lol
https://www.ewordtoday.com/year/
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No longer a week or so behind! Just maybe a day behind. :)
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I am somewhat behind. I will try to get caught up this weekend.
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Wow....I fell off the face of this. I literally forgot, and must have missed the monthly threads after January. To be fair, the last few months had been hard on me.
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I'm so behind. I may have to fall off permanently... or at least for awhile.
Eh, I guess I need to buy a physical copy. Trying to read on the website just doesn't do well for me.
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Aw, we're on the awesome books! For about another month or so, it'll be smooth sailing with the Samuels and the Kings...but then one last drought with the Chronicles....but after that we have Job - SoS which are pretty much my favorite books ever.
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I almost vote that we just skip Chronicles, since it is largely a rewrite anyways.
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I've really fallen behind but I'm playing catchup this weekend.
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Well, gonna read ALOT tonight.
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...And I did. Finished Joshua last night. Will do Judges tonight.
Since there hasn't been any discussion since like Numbers anyway, I'm gonna talk about Joshua. I thought it was awesome. This is the first time, I think, where the Hebrews really just come across as being strong. They've got God fully on their side and, honestly, I don't see how you can describe anything that goes on in Joshua as anything less than an all-out death march.
But damn, is it powerful. On judges now, and every time I read "And they slew _____. And the LORD was with them." I get chills down my spine. So glad I moved back to the KJV. Maybe not the most accurate but I'm enjoying the readings so much more because of the language.
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So glad I moved back to the KJV. Maybe not the most accurate but I'm enjoying the readings so much more because of the language.
As far as accuracy, you're safe with the KJV for the entire Hebrew Scriptures, and actually most of the NT as well. But I admit, even though I rarely use it anymore, some passages definitely sound better from the KJV.
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What's the biggest problem with the translation? From what I've read, the only reason people don't recommend it is because it's hard to understand. But I'm an English major and read stuff from this era for fun, so, no big deal.
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What's the biggest problem with the translation? From what I've read, the only reason people don't recommend it is because it's hard to understand. But I'm an English major and read stuff from this era for fun, so, no big deal.
The biggest problems translation-wise are in the NT, specifically in the book of Revelation. The basis for the KJV NT was a Greek edition prepared by Erasmus. Of course, when Erasmus was putting together his Greek NT, he couldn't find a complete Greek manuscript of Revelation, so he used a Latin manuscript and back-translated it to Greek, basically completely fabricating a Greek manuscript for Revelation. As a result, there are multiple textual errors found in the KJV version of Revelation that are found in no known actual Greek manuscript of the text.
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Oh.
Well, I never have any idea what's going on in that book anyway.
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Oh.
Well, I never have any idea what's going on in that book anyway.
Well, don't worry about it right now. We'll get to it later.
But for what it's worth, I think that most other Christians don't have any idea what's going on in that book either.
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What's the biggest problem with the translation? From what I've read, the only reason people don't recommend it is because it's hard to understand. But I'm an English major and read stuff from this era for fun, so, no big deal.
The biggest problems translation-wise are in the NT, specifically in the book of Revelation. The basis for the KJV NT was a Greek edition prepared by Erasmus. Of course, when Erasmus was putting together his Greek NT, he couldn't find a complete Greek manuscript of Revelation, so he used a Latin manuscript and back-translated it to Greek, basically completely fabricating a Greek manuscript for Revelation. As a result, there are multiple textual errors found in the KJV version of Revelation that are found in no known actual Greek manuscript of the text.
That is what is typically said about the KJV's Revelation...but I don't know if I agree. :biggrin:
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What's the biggest problem with the translation? From what I've read, the only reason people don't recommend it is because it's hard to understand. But I'm an English major and read stuff from this era for fun, so, no big deal.
The biggest problems translation-wise are in the NT, specifically in the book of Revelation. The basis for the KJV NT was a Greek edition prepared by Erasmus. Of course, when Erasmus was putting together his Greek NT, he couldn't find a complete Greek manuscript of Revelation, so he used a Latin manuscript and back-translated it to Greek, basically completely fabricating a Greek manuscript for Revelation. As a result, there are multiple textual errors found in the KJV version of Revelation that are found in no known actual Greek manuscript of the text.
That is what is typically said about the KJV's Revelation...but I don't know if I agree. :biggrin:
Why in the world wouldn't you agree? It's a fact, it's not an interpretation.
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Lemme think about that hef, I have a couple resources I need to get through. But I don't think it's as simple as Erasmus being lazy about the whole thing.
Anyway....I was thinking earlier today about casting OT characters as Lord of the Rings characters. So far I've got:
Joshua - Aragorn
Aaron - Gandalf
God's voice - Christopher Lee
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Lemme think about that hef, I have a couple resources I need to get through. But I don't think it's as simple as Erasmus being lazy about the whole thing.
No, I didn't say anything about his motivation. It wasn't laziness, it was greed - someone else was preparing a Greek edition at the same time and he wanted to get his done first. But he had no good Greek text for Revelation, so he did what he thought he had to do in the time he had.
But that doesn't really matter. The problems in his Greek edition are there, regardless of motivation.
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So where are we supposed to be now? I just finished Ruth.
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I think we are supposed to be in 2 Samuel or 1 Kings by now.
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Ok, serious question. Who here is actually on target with the reading?
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I don't even know where we're supposed to be. I'm on Samuel. Where are we supposed to be? Where is the link?
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https://www.ewordtoday.com/year/
We are supposed to be in the middle of 1 Kings.
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So I'm less than a month behind. Awesome.
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I fell behind again the end of last week. Still in 2 Sam.
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I'm about 4 days behind now. Trying to keep up though.
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Getting caught up. I'm in early 1 Kings.
So, I know this is a couple of days behind where we are, but I'm curious: What do people think about Joab? He's always been an interesting person to me. We really aren't told much about his spiritual commitment. He is intensely loyal to David and is an amazing warrior. But we don't know much about whether he was a godly man or not. He was certainly violent, and went against David's wishes several times in killing some of David's enemies that David had wanted kept alive (e.g. Absolom). And it is clear at the end of David's life that David wants him repaid for the things he has done. But is this David, the man, personally evening the score, or is it God repaying Joab through David? I'm really not sure. Thoughts?
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yeah, I have always been intrigued by Joab as well.
all I can think about now, though, is how thankful I am that I don't have to read my bible in this screen color
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Getting caught up. I'm in early 1 Kings.
So, I know this is a couple of days behind where we are, but I'm curious: What do people think about Joab? He's always been an interesting person to me. We really aren't told much about his spiritual commitment. He is intensely loyal to David and is an amazing warrior. But we don't know much about whether he was a godly man or not. He was certainly violent, and went against David's wishes several times in killing some of David's enemies that David had wanted kept alive (e.g. Absolom). And it is clear at the end of David's life that David wants him repaid for the things he has done. But is this David, the man, personally evening the score, or is it God repaying Joab through David? I'm really not sure. Thoughts?
I have also been fascinated with the Joab/David relationship. Personally, I think it was David evening the score, not God. David was a man after God's own heart, but he was also ruthless, in his own way.
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Since these threads tend to be short, I just edited the title instead of starting a new one. I'm a little over a week behind still, but getting caught up. :(
Man, I had forgotten how tedious the beginning of 1 Chronicles is. Glad I'm past that. Finishing up that book, either later today or tomorrow.
Hopefully, I can get caught up. But if not, eh, no worries. I still want to go through reading the whole thing straight through, so if I ultimately end up finishing a month late, at least I finished.
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I'm really far behind now. Maybe a month behind. I'll try to make it up once finals are over.
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I'm still on Samuel. I do mean to finish, though, even if late.
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I am actually ahead, but primarily because I will be out of town next week and wanted to be caught up. glad so many of you are still at least in the game
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I'm way behind, as well, but I've read the historical books many times before, so I'm not really "missing" anything.
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Okay, now I'm a few days ahead. :myungwoot:
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just discovered how to get access to bible via my new blackberry....very cool
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Since this thread isn't as long, I've just modified the thread title rather than starting a new one.
So for those who have stayed on pace, we have finished the historical books of the OT. If this is your first time reading through the Bible, you have now read basically a "history of the world," from a Jewish perspective, from the creation through about 400 B.C. When we get to the phophets, we will go back and fill in some details in the kingdom years and exile period, but the period of about 400 B.C. until a few years before Christ's birth is not dealt with directly (other than through prophecies in the OT and some references back in the NT).
But first, the books of poetry, starting with Job. Very interesting and very controversial book.
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I love Job. I will try to jump back in at this point.
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I've not felt the need to fact-check this myself, but I've heard and read that there are bigger chunks of Job than anywhere else in the Bible that we simply do not know one way or the other whether they are authentic or do not know how to properly translate. As a result, there is a much bigger variance in what some parts say from translation to translation than any other book in the Bible. At least, I think that's how it was presented. What say you on this, hef?
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I've not felt the need to fact-check this myself, but I've heard and read that there are bigger chunks of Job than anywhere else in the Bible that we simply do not know one way or the other whether they are authentic or do not know how to properly translate. As a result, there is a much bigger variance in what some parts say from translation to translation than any other book in the Bible. At least, I think that's how it was presented. What say you on this, hef?
I don't know about that per se, but I'll be happy to check it out. :tup
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Hey guys, I'm still at the first book of the Bible.
:neverusethis:
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Hey guys, I'm still at the first book of the Bible.
:neverusethis:
What? Wasn't this whole thing your idea in the first place?
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'Twas a joke, my friend. ;)
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(https://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i238/hefdaddy42/funny/obama-beer.jpg)
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No.
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No.
Bosk1! When is the last time you checked...er....the other website? ;)
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er...awhile. Because nobody (including you) was posting there.
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that's gonna change :D
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Bump.
I have decided to stop following the reading schedule from the website and instead just read 2 pages a day.