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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Jamesman42 on March 17, 2011, 07:33:53 AM
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So yeah....really loving the Chromeness my computer is using. Very nice, lightweight...for some reason Firefox was starting to get slow and buggy on me.
IE is alright nowadays but still feels very...bland and slow. Opera was cool back when I used it for a few months a few years ago.
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I just use firefox :p
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I've been a Firefox user since around 2003 (when it was called Firebird) and that's been my web browser of choice. At work I use IE 6-8, and it does the job well too. I've tried both Chrome and Opera, but that was a long time ago so I can't really say how they are today. I've upgraded to Firefox 4 at home now and I think it runs great, I'm very pleased with it so far. I haven't tried IE9 yet but I hear it is great too.
Short answer: Firefox
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Opera's the best built, but I've fallen into just using Safari for the sake of speed, simplicity, and compatibility. Minimalist.
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Firefox since late 2005 or early 2006.
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Opera
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Internet Explorer 9.
:neverusethis:
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I used FF for years and loved it. I tried chrome years ago when the beta came out, and there were too many bugs. I stopped using it within 3 days. I tried Chrome again about 9 months ago and haven't used FF since.
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Chrome for a year and half now.
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Firefox, but I have been trying out Chrome for the past couple days.
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Firefox never lets me down.
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I just use IE since I dont really care that much about browsers.
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Switched from FireFox to Chrome in 2009 when FF starting feeling heavy, slow and buggy.
Haven't switched since.
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Firefox. Chrome is pretty good too, but I can't live without Firefox's addons.
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I switched from IE 5 (yes, I'm serious) to Chrome 2 months ago and I'm very happy with it. I tried to switch to Firefox before but I din't like it, I had to install plug-ins for everything :\
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My grampa switched from IE8 to Chrome two days ago. I remember whenever I used Firefox (on a few different computers), it crashed frequently. Chrome is definitely my favourite.
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Chrome
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Used Firefox for years, but switched to Chrome some time ago and my life's been all the better for it. Chrome's proven to be faster, though I do miss some of Firefox's addons.
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Opera's the best built, but I've fallen into just using Safari for the sake of speed, simplicity, and compatibility. Minimalist.
I just read where Safari was the browser that got hacked the easiest at some contest last week, in literally less than 10 seconds.
I use Chrome.
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Firefox for me.
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Chrome. Very minimalist approach, and its pretty fast too. Haven't tried Opera, though I've heard great things.
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Chrome for me.
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Opera. Chrome runs great as well, I just like some of Opera's features more.
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Switched from FireFox to Chrome in 2009 when FF starting feeling heavy, slow and buggy.
Haven't switched since.
-J
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Firefox
I tried out Opera and didn't really care for it. I'd like to try Chrome sometime.
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I use Firefox but don't care too much as long as it's not Chrome. I would use IE before I used Chrome...
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Opera's the best built, but I've fallen into just using Safari for the sake of speed, simplicity, and compatibility. Minimalist.
I just read where Safari was the browser that got hacked the easiest at some contest last week, in literally less than 10 seconds.
I use Chrome.
That is a little distressing. On the other hand, not sure why anyone would want to hack me.
Well. I get why they'd want to, but I'm pretty conservative with my internet usage. I don't trudge around many dodgy sites, and if I see even just a pop-up or a dodgy ad I generally shut the browser just out of habit. Used to even when I was on Opera. Do admit that it might be naive of me, or that I may be tempting fate.
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Chrome. I remember when Firefox used to be the big thing. I tried it and hated it. I found Internet Explorer to be better than Firefox
But Chrome rules supreme.
lolsafari
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So I'm to understand Chrome has gotten a lot better since I initially tried it and ditched it after a few days?
I've always been loyal to Firefox, but maybe I'll give it another shot.
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Chrome loyalist here.
Idk, Chrome is just so lightweight and I love the address bar/google search function and tabbing
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Firefox.
I tried Opera for a couple of weeks but didn't like it. Chrome is good and I like it, just not enough to start using it as my main browser.
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So I'm to understand Chrome has gotten a lot better since I initially tried it and ditched it after a few days?
I've always been loyal to Firefox, but maybe I'll give it another shot.
Yes, I was the same exact way. Then yesterday Firefox felt so...different from what it used to be, I decided to try Chrome and it is such a difference.
Idk, Chrome is just so lightweight and I love the address bar/google search function and tabbing
I have just discovered this and I love it. Really minimizes all the stuff everywhere, search bars and all that.
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Chrome rules my life.
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I USE ALL OF THEM
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Firefox, duh.
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Chrome user from almost day 1
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Firefox since it was called firebird back in the 0.6 days.
Version 4 all the way \o/
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Chrome.
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Testing Chrome out for the next week or so, then I'll make a decision whether to stick with it or go back to Firefox for another few years.
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I use Firefox but don't care too much as long as it's not Chrome. I would use IE before I used Chrome...
Why such a strong hatred?
Opera's the best built, but I've fallen into just using Safari for the sake of speed, simplicity, and compatibility. Minimalist.
I just read where Safari was the browser that got hacked the easiest at some contest last week, in literally less than 10 seconds.
5 seconds, to be exact.
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So I'm to understand Chrome has gotten a lot better since I initially tried it and ditched it after a few days?
I've always been loyal to Firefox, but maybe I'll give it another shot.
If this thread was made 9 months or so ago, I would have posted this.
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I use Firefox but don't care too much as long as it's not Chrome. I would use IE before I used Chrome...
I... wat?
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Mostly Safari. Firefox 4 comes out on Tuesday and I like it alot. Chrome is nice. I never liked Opera (mobile or desktop). I am on a Mac, so no IE for me. I tried IE 9 on my wife's Win7 machine and it was good but nothing special.
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I was an avid FireFox user, but when I heard about Chrome I decided to give it a whirl. Haven't gone abck since. I think that was over a year ago.
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Chrome is pretty cool.
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I have Safari and Firefox. I really don't care which one I use. I just pick one at random when I get on the internet.
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wat
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wat do you mean wat?
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He means:
wat
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Opera. I like the big speed dial feature. Plus I always prefer dark/black themes, which you can do on Opera. :)
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I have a black theme on Chrome...
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I use a web browser.
Firefox is used the most at my school and Opera at home only. Voted for Firefox because I use it the most.
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Netscape Navigator representin'
really though, been a happy Chrome user for about 2 years now.
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I use Chrome exclusively. However, when I worked at my last job that required a lot of browser printing, Firefox simply had the better printing options.
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I've had absolutely zero problems with Firefox, so I've felt no need to switch to Chrome. I used to use Safari back when I was primarily a Mac user...crashed all of the time. I don't have that much IE experience, but it seems pretty crap as well.
Firefox FTW
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NETSCAPE
OLD SKOOL LOL
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I use Firefox pretty much exclusively, but we occasionally have a falling out. I'll switch to Chrome for a while, realize how much I miss ad-block plus, and come back crying at Firefox to take me back.
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Firefox is really making my computer kind of boggy, but I really like it's ad blocking... very rarely do I ever encounter ads on any website.
So yeah, I might switch to Chrome although I tried it before and it didn't really do much for me then.
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Firefox since it was called firebird back in the 0.6 days.
Version 4 all the way \o/
The official release is in five days.
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Zero problems with Firefox since I started using it 2 years ago so no need to change here.
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Firefox since it was called firebird back in the 0.6 days.
Version 4 all the way \o/
The official release is in five days.
I'm using the latest RC version and I hope they have fixed some of the bugs I've come across with it for the official release. Mainly the back/forward navigation is getting weird after a while, I have to restart the browser to fix it. And the music is lagging and "skipping" now and then while I browse with FF4 (both mp3s and Spotify). It didn't happen with FF3 so I guess it's a FF4 problem.
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If anyone finds a new AdBlock version for the next FF scheduled to drop in 5 days, let us know.
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Firefox 4, because it incorperates the best parts of chrome without actually being chrome.
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What's wrong with Chrome then...?
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If anyone finds a new AdBlock version for the next FF scheduled to drop in 5 days, let us know.
Adblock Plus works fine for me with FF4.
https://adblockplus.org/en/
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Just downloaded Firefox 4. Amazing.
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So if I have Chrome, does IE still have to be on my computer, because whenever Chrome.exe is open, Explorer.exe shows up too. Is this normal?
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If we're talking background processes, Explorer has nothing to do with internet explorer.
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What does it have to do with then, oh vague one?
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Chrome, definitely. Firefox was always a bit bloated for my taste. Pretty ugly GUI as well.
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https://www.neuber.com/taskmanager/process/explorer.exe.html
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https://www.neuber.com/taskmanager/process/explorer.exe.html
I was already there earlier. Reading it again, I definitely skipped a few helpful lines. Still, when looking at the processes in Task Manager, explorer.exe uses almost the same amount of memory as Chrome.exe. Ever since I got internet back, my computer has been a tad slower. Bit defender did pick up a trojan, but since deleted it, so BLARGH!
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Chrome, definitely. Firefox was always a bit bloated for my taste. Pretty ugly GUI as well.
4 looks more like Chrome.
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Firefox 4, RC 2 on Windows XP with the standard Luna theme and the new Adblock Plus (addon bar enabled and that's the bar located at the bottom, disable-able).
(https://i52.tinypic.com/210mzc8.jpg)
I customised mine a bit just using the basic UI thing, you'll know how to use that obviously.
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lolxp
Kidding, of course. I hate when people make fun of my stuff.
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What does it have to do with then, oh vague one?
I'm pretty sure Explorer is just another name for the desktop experience (My Documents, your desktop, etc.) in Windows. Coincidentally has the same name as "Internet Explorer"
Equivalent to "Finder" in Mac OS X
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What does it have to do with then, oh vague one?
I'm pretty sure Explorer is just another name for the desktop experience (My Documents, your desktop, etc.) in Windows. Coincidentally has the same name as "Internet Explorer"
Equivalent to "Finder" in Mac OS X
Yep. As I recall, Internet Explorer shows up as ieexplorer.exe or something similar.
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Thanks guys :tup
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Trial is officially over, I'm back to Firefox.
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People actually voted for IE?
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Trial is officially over, I'm back to Firefox.
urdoinitwrong
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Trial is officially over, I'm back to Firefox.
urdoinitwrong
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ftp://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/4.0/
Official Firefox 4 release available now on their FTP.
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I installed it, and wow, I'm sold! WAY faster, much nicer-looking interface and just all around better surfing experience.
And it's also got much better support for CSS3 and HTML5, which is always nice.
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Does anybody know if there is (or will be) a 64 bit version of Firefox 4? I installed 64 bit Windows 7 yesterday and am looking for 64 bit versions of the software I use.
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I installed it, and wow, I'm sold! WAY faster, much nicer-looking interface and just all around better surfing experience.
And it's also got much better support for CSS3 and HTML5, which is always nice.
You installed Chrome?
Isn't it amazing? :tup
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I installed it, and wow, I'm sold! WAY faster, much nicer-looking interface and just all around better surfing experience.
And it's also got much better support for CSS3 and HTML5, which is always nice.
You installed Chrome?
Isn't it amazing? :tup
Firefox 4.0 DOES remind me a lot of Chrome, that's true. IMO, they're right now equally amazing. :tup
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Just upgraded to Firefox 4. Doesn't seem to be particularly faster, though I had customized the previous version to improve it's performance and am starting from scratch with this one. The biggest annoyance so far as that they've changed the location of the "Open Link in New Tab" option when I right-click. I keep opening things in a new window by accident.
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I just switched over to Chrome on my laptop earlier today. Looks good.
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Was an avid FF user... then discovered Opera... went back and forth. Then I discovered Chrome. Since using Chrome, the size of that certain organ has had a noticeable increase, and Walter Murphy's band follows me where ever I go playing theme music. yeaaaaaaaa.
oh and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5QqYVurImY
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Found this browser test online.
https://cybernetnews.com/browser-comparison-internet-explorer-firefox-chrome-safari-opera/
Browser Comparison: Memory Usage, Speed, Acid 3 Test
(https://cybernetnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/browser-benchmarks.png)
Ever since we did a browser comparison test last year there have been a lot of emails and comments asking if we were going to update the article to reflect new releases. I thought about adding in the new browsers as they came out, but decided against it for one reason or another. Instead I thought it would be better to just do a fresh article, and include even more stats than last time.
The main reason that I thought this was worthy of its own article was because a lot has changed in the last year. Since March 2008 we’ve seen major milestone releases from each of big browser makers, and to top it off Google Chrome has come onto the scene. These browsers have also shifted focus from adding nifty new features to diving deep into the code trying to squeeze out every last ounce of performance.
We’ve got a lot in store for you today ranging from JavaScript speed tests to memory usage comparisons, and we’ll even throw in some Acid 3 coverage. Lets go ahead and dive right in.
Notes about testing:
All of these tests were performed on the same Windows XP SP3 machine that is wired into a network to eliminate the effects of wireless disturbances.
All browsers started with a clean profile and no add-ons/extensions were installed.
All browser data, including caches, were cleared before each test was run.
Only one browser was open at a time, and no other applications (other than standard XP services) were running.
Internet Explorer 8 was used in the native rendering mode (“standards compliant mode”).
No plug-ins (Flash, Java, etc…) were installed on the machine to ensure that slow performance wasn’t due to the loading of a plug-in.
–JavaScript Tests–
The main speed test that everyone seems to use for JavaScript is SunSpider. Last year we compared the browsers with the SunSpider test prior to writing our first comparison, and so we wanted to try something different. That’s when we turned to the MooTools SlickSpeed Test. It tests various operations against a lot of common JavaScript libraries including MooTools and JQuery.
So which one did we go with this year? Well, we did both. We ran each test, SunSpider and SlickSpeed, a total of three times each. Then we averaged the results together to get the pretty little graphs you see below. For both of them the goal was for the browser to complete the tests as fast as possible, and so a lower number is better.
Sunspider Test:
(https://cybernetnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/sunspider-test.png)
Safari 4: 603ms
Google Chrome 3.0 Beta: 636ms
Google Chrome 2.0: 720ms
Firefox 3.5: 1278ms
Opera 10 Beta: 2975ms
Opera 9.64: 3931ms
Internet Explorer 8: 5441ms
MooTools SlickSpeed Test:
(https://cybernetnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/mootools-test.png)
Opera 10 Beta: 330ms
Safari 4: 355ms
Opera 9.64: 375ms
Google Chrome 3.0 Beta: 464ms
Firefox 3.5: 580ms
Google Chrome 2.0: 763ms
Internet Explorer 8: 1901ms
–Website Rendering Tests–
I used the same method for testing website load times as I did last year. It’s a website called Numion Stopwatch that uses some fancy JavaScript to monitor when a page has finished loading, and then spits out the amount of time it took to complete.
We used two extremely popular sites for these tests: ESPN and the Wall Street Journal. Each site was loaded up three times in each browser, and then the results were averaged together. Obviously we were targeting which browser could load the websites the fastest, and so a lower number is better:
ESPN Load Time:
(https://cybernetnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/espn-load-test.png)
Safari 4: 1.936 seconds
Google Chrome 3.0 Beta: 2.194 seconds
Firefox 3.5: 2.380 seconds
Internet Explorer 8: 2.604 seconds
Opera 10 Beta: 2.605 seconds
Opera 9.64: 2.651 seconds
Google Chrome 2.0: 2.873 seconds
Wall Street Journal Load Time:
(https://cybernetnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/wsj-load-test.png)
Google Chrome 3.0 Beta: 1.612 seconds
Opera 10 Beta: 1.989 seconds
Opera 9.64: 2.141 seconds
Safari 4: 2.166 seconds
Google Chrome 2.0: 2.552 seconds
Firefox 3.5: 2.886 seconds
Internet Explorer 8: 3.292 seconds
–Acid 3 Tests–
Last year we also took a look at how the various browsers scored on the Acid 3 test. At the time a Safari nightly build was the closest to perfection by reaching a score of 86 out of 100. Today, however, is a different story. A few browsers can handle the test perfectly, some are very very close, and others (yeah, IE) have some work cut out for themselves.
Note: Click on any of the thumbnails for a full-size rendering.
Safari 4 (100/100) – It gets a perfect score and renders everything correctly.
Opera 10 Beta (100/100) – It gets a perfect score and renders everything correctly.
Google Chrome 2.0 (100/100) – It gets a perfect score, but not all tests are executed successfully.
Google Chrome 3.0 Beta (100/100) – It gets a perfect score, but not all tests are executed successfully.
Firefox 3.5 (93/100) – It gets a near perfect score.
Opera 9.6 (85/100) – This is the oldest release we tested, and it comes as no surprise that it doesn’t pass the test. It should be noted that the next milestone, version 10, does pass the test perfectly as seen above.
Internet Explorer 8 (20/100) – While they still have a ways to go before they get a perfect, I do have to give them credit for at least making the image look halfway normal. You know what I’m talking about if you remember what IE7′s rendering of the Acid 3 test was like.
–Conclusion–
So which browser is the winner? I wouldn’t really say any of them outshine the others. The problem that we are going to face with performance tests from here on out is that the browsers will all come very close to each other in the standings… often within a fraction of a second from one another. As the browsers continue to get optimized we will see these times get even closer, and performance might become less of a concern which picking which one we want to use. So I’d say to pick the browser you feel the most comfortable with, because it’s getting hard to distinguish one browser from another when it comes to performance.
What’s your take on the stats? Anything stand out to you? Will you be switching browsers based upon anything you learned here?
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No. Half a second won't change my preference.
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No. Half a second won't change my preference.
Yeah, this.
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Man this Firefox 4 is fast!!
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I think I'll stay with 3.6 for a while, until Firefox 4 gets an upgrade. I generally don't go with x.0 versions, so I'll probably wait until 4.1 comes out.
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I think I'll stay with 3.6 for a while, until Firefox 4 gets an upgrade. I generally don't go with x.0 versions, so I'll probably wait until 4.1 comes out.
Smart move. For the most part 4.0 works great, but it still has some quirks.
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Why the hell is Firefox 4.0 crashing so much? Does anyone else has that problem? It's getting on my nerves!
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^No sir. It's working as expected for me.
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So yeah....really loving the Chromeness my computer is using. Very nice, lightweight...for some reason Firefox was starting to get slow and buggy on me.
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Why the hell is Firefox 4.0 crashing so much? Does anyone else has that problem? It's getting on my nerves!
Hasn't crashed once for me. It has slowed down majorly on several occasions, though.
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I downloaded FF4.0 for shits and giggles yesterday. I think I'm sticking with Chrome.
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Why the hell is Firefox 4.0 crashing so much? Does anyone else has that problem? It's getting on my nerves!
It hasn't crashed even once for me.
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It hasn't crashed for me either.
You need to stop browsing for Ukranian hamster porn. :neverusethis:
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It hasn't crashed for me either.
You need to stop browsing for Ukranian hamster porn. :neverusethis:
Hamster porn is harmless, Brazillian fart porn is what really fucks your machine up.
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You know what I love about Firefox 4? It's spell check since I'm a terrible speller.
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You know what I love about Firefox 4? It's spell check since I'm a terrible speller.
Don't all browsers have that these days? I'm still using Firefox 3.6 and it has a spell check. *shrugs*
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The new Firefox 4.0 rocks! Its the faster browser I have used.
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You know what I love about Firefox 4? It's spell check since I'm a terrible speller.
Don't all browsers have that these days? I'm still using Firefox 3.6 and it has a spell check. *shrugs*
Old fogey who never tried any of the other. Always used IE. Thanks to you youngsters, I woke up and tried something new.
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This "Pin to Tab" feature is super great.