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Title: "That's neither here nor there."
Post by: Perpetual Change on March 16, 2011, 08:46:10 PM
I'm curious about this expression. Reason being, I've just started noticing people say it recently, especially here (then again, this place is my main contact with the English speaking world so...). Where is this from? Have people been saying this for a long time and I just never realized, or is this one of those phrases that's just starting to catch on recently?
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Post by: 73109 on March 16, 2011, 08:47:14 PM
No, it has been around for quite a while. I say it every once in a while when the situation calls for it.
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Post by: ClairvoyantCat on March 16, 2011, 08:48:35 PM
I think it's a stupid phrase, personally. 
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Post by: ricky on March 16, 2011, 09:04:42 PM
I think it's a stupid phrase, personally. 

+1

just like when people say "it is what it is."

yeah, pretty pointless.
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Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on March 16, 2011, 09:05:05 PM
No, it has been around for quite a while. I say it every once in a while when the situation calls for it.
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Post by: pogoowner on March 16, 2011, 09:05:34 PM
It's very common and has been around for a very long time. How it started, I don't know.
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Post by: ScioPath on March 16, 2011, 09:16:09 PM
I think it's a stupid phrase, personally. 

+1

just like when people say "it is what it is."

yeah, pretty pointless.

No, "It is what it is" is the best phrase ever. Do you know how much trouble I've gotten out of by saying that?
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Post by: Perpetual Change on March 16, 2011, 09:25:04 PM
"It is what it is" is really one of those things you can just kinda say to dodge actually saying anything about any topic that might be a little sensitive around family or friends ever. :)
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Post by: Jamesman42 on March 16, 2011, 10:09:42 PM
"Son, why do you masturbate in the dishwasher?"

"It is what it is."
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Post by: Quadrochosis on March 16, 2011, 10:21:53 PM
Being a Philosophy major, I actually see a lot of validity and meaning in phrases like "It is what it is."

</pretentious bastard>
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Post by: MetalJunkie on March 16, 2011, 10:29:47 PM
"It is what it is."

...

</pretentious bastard>
Yup.
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Post by: dongringo on March 16, 2011, 10:42:18 PM
It's very common and has been around for a very long time. How it started, I don't know.

It is what it is.

^ Just proving that this phrase works for everything.

As far as the phrase "it's neither here nor there."

^ It is what it is AND it's neither here nor there.  :lol
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Post by: Vivace on March 16, 2011, 11:05:22 PM
"Son, why do you masturbate in the dishwasher?"

"It is what it is."

WIN
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Post by: SPNKr on March 16, 2011, 11:08:44 PM
It's very common and has been around for a very long time. How it started, I don't know.

It is what it is.

^ Just proving that this phrase works for everything.

As far as the phrase "it's neither here nor there."

^ It is what it is AND it's neither here nor there.  :lol

And I could care less.
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Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on March 16, 2011, 11:10:44 PM
It's very common and has been around for a very long time. How it started, I don't know.

It is what it is.

^ Just proving that this phrase works for everything.

As far as the phrase "it's neither here nor there."

^ It is what it is AND it's neither here nor there.  :lol

And I could care less.
Now THAT'S a phrase I hate. >:( Makes 0 sense.
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Post by: SPNKr on March 16, 2011, 11:13:12 PM
It's very common and has been around for a very long time. How it started, I don't know.

It is what it is.

^ Just proving that this phrase works for everything.

As far as the phrase "it's neither here nor there."

^ It is what it is AND it's neither here nor there.  :lol

And I could care less.
Now THAT'S a phrase I hate. >:( Makes 0 sense.
But really! I could care less!

IT IS WHAT IT IS
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Post by: Perpetual Change on March 16, 2011, 11:16:11 PM
Revisiting my original question, I have to say: I could care less. It is what it is. I'm just saying, you know? I'm not saying that I don't care at all, but I'm just saying: it's neither here nor there-- It simply just is what it is. That's just the way things go. I'm still working out the kinks.
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Post by: SPNKr on March 16, 2011, 11:17:16 PM
Revisiting my original question, I have to say: I could care less. It is what it is. I'm just saying, you know? I'm not saying that I don't care at all, but I'm just saying: it's neither here nor there-- It simply just is what it is. That's just the way things go. I'm still working out the kinks.
Well, I'll be.
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Post by: sneakyblueberry on March 16, 2011, 11:27:23 PM
I prefer "Six of one or half a dozen of the other".  Its a lot cooler.
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Post by: SPNKr on March 16, 2011, 11:29:11 PM
^ I know, right?!
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Post by: sneakyblueberry on March 16, 2011, 11:29:55 PM
^ Killer opinion
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Post by: KevShmev on March 16, 2011, 11:52:24 PM
This thread is a hot mess.
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Post by: wjc on March 16, 2011, 11:56:19 PM
It's very common and has been around for a very long time. How it started, I don't know.

It is what it is.

^ Just proving that this phrase works for everything.

As far as the phrase "it's neither here nor there."

^ It is what it is AND it's neither here nor there.  :lol

And I could care less.
Now THAT'S a phrase I hate. >:( Makes 0 sense.

It's the result of people somehow mishearing "I couldn't care less".

I couldn't care less
I couldn't care less
I couldn't care less
I couldn't care less
I couldn't care less
I couldn't care less
I couldn't care less
I couldn't car
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Post by: jimbosile on March 17, 2011, 02:08:33 AM
I hate when people say "must of", "should of", "could of".

I genuinely could care less about this.
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 17, 2011, 04:51:24 AM
I hate when people say "must of", "should of", "could of".
I hate it when they spell it like that, because that makes no sense.  But the actual words are "must've" "should've" and "could've" and they are contractions with the word "have".  Nothing wrong with that.
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Post by: Chino on March 17, 2011, 06:57:59 AM
Win is here and there.
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Post by: Ultimetalhead on March 17, 2011, 07:00:54 AM
Good thread.
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Post by: Perpetual Change on March 17, 2011, 08:07:05 AM
Good thread.

Yeah, it's devolved into a spam fest. I guess this thread can be locked now that I have my answer.

And, just to be on the safe side, a spam fest wasn't my intention; my intentions were actually pretty good and pretty clear-cut.

But that's neither here nor there.
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Post by: dongringo on March 17, 2011, 03:34:52 PM
The phrase is certainly catching.  ;)
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Post by: Dublagent66 on March 17, 2011, 04:13:13 PM
Yeah, I remember that phrase well over 10 years ago.

"That being said" is more recent.
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 17, 2011, 07:42:22 PM
irregardless
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Post by: ScioPath on March 17, 2011, 07:58:23 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StJ-OK4jiSY
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Post by: MetalManiac666 on March 17, 2011, 08:01:08 PM
I rarely hear "That's neither here nor there," and it sounds pretty silly anyways.  "It is what it is," on the other hand, is pretty much a cooler way of saying "suck it up."  I use it quite a bit.
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Post by: Kura on March 17, 2011, 08:07:27 PM
In my opinion it means not one of two extremes, but rather something that has started but has not yet reached its destination. It can apply to something physical or metaphorical:

"My drawing skills are neither here nor there" (not good but not bad) or "I'm neither here nor there in Rome" can be a location between the destination and the starting point.
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Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on March 17, 2011, 08:48:01 PM
I think it's a stupid phrase, personally. 

Seriously mang, your posts become 1000% greater when posted by that avatar you have there.
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Post by: contest_sanity on March 20, 2011, 04:56:33 PM
One I've never understood is: "you can't have your cake and eat it too."

Not only is it possible to have your cake and also eat it, it would seem necessary to the act of eating the cake that one also possess it.

I've read a few "explanations" of this online, but I'll wait to see what others might say before I post any.
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Post by: RuRoRul on March 20, 2011, 05:00:23 PM
I have a cake.

I want to eat my cake, but then still have it.

But if I eat it, it will be gone, so I won't still have it.

Hence I can't have my cake and eat it too.

Think "I want to spend my money but then also have money in the bank".
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Post by: contest_sanity on March 20, 2011, 05:04:36 PM
Then the phrase should be "you can't save your cake for later and also eat it now."

Unless you don't eat all of it now but rather only a portion.  
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Post by: ricky on March 20, 2011, 05:06:32 PM
Being a Philosophy major, I actually see a lot of validity and meaning in phrases like "It is what it is."

</pretentious bastard>

defend yourself, then.
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Post by: Ravenheart on March 20, 2011, 05:10:12 PM
There's a 50/50 chance it could go either way.
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Post by: KevShmev on March 20, 2011, 10:23:07 PM
"Doctor gives him a 5/50 chance to live, though there's only a 10 percent chance of that."