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Title: 2011/12 Tour Speculation Thread (not setlists)
Post by: setrataeso on March 09, 2011, 11:22:25 PM
This thread is designed more as a way to assemble to facts/speculate about the upcoming tour.
This is not meant as an "I wish/hope/want them to play X song."

Let's try to put our brains together and come up with some solid speculation. Even if it's a longshot. Also, explain yourselves. The more discussion we have, the funner speculation can be.

To start, I think we can rule out the obvious tracks: SDV, TBOT, and pretty much anything off of WDADU.

The lingering question for me is how will they adapt their setlist to suit the new drummer? I get the impression that this tour will feature a lot of classic-era DT songs, so that way the band can say "See, this drummer can play Mike's old stuff. And we're still the same ol' DT!"

I'm guessing the return of full-song Metropolis and Learning to Live. Potentially one more from Images & Words.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: cyberdrummer on March 10, 2011, 09:01:57 AM
I actually think SDV may well get played, full band version.

Other songs I think will return to the setlists:

Peruvian Skies
Wait For Sleep
Learning to Live
Fatal Tragedy
The Great Debate
Honor Thy Father (yes, even with MP's departure)
The Killing Hand
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: setrataeso on March 10, 2011, 10:50:27 AM
Good call on Honor thy Father. I reckon DT is going to want to stave off any rumours that they'll avoid Portnoy songs. May as well play one of the most Portnoy-ish songs.
Not so sure about The Killing Hand, though. The impression I got was that the other members didn't care much about WDADU songs, and that Mike prosthelytized for them most of the time.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: cyberdrummer on March 10, 2011, 12:02:24 PM
That may be the case, we don't know for sure, but I think DT will want to show that they're still the same band no matter what, and what better way to do that than by playing a song or two from their first album.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: jonny108 on March 11, 2011, 07:15:41 AM
Hmmm not sure about a full version of Learning to Live.  James might stuggle a bit.  I could see The Killing Hand making a return, maybe Through Her Eyes, The Great Debate, 6.00, Burning My Soul...one's they haven't played in a while plus some classics.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: TAC on March 11, 2011, 08:51:21 AM
I hope The Killing Hand returns..but why would you think James would struggle with LTL?
He's been right on with it recently.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on March 11, 2011, 08:57:19 AM
I'd love to see The Great Debate and Stream of Consciousness return to the setlists.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: cyberdrummer on March 11, 2011, 10:06:34 AM
Yeah I don't see why Learning to Live wouldn't return. They played it on the 8V tour and the first European leg of the SC tour.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: setrataeso on March 11, 2011, 10:35:22 AM
If they played an instrumental, which one do you think they would go with? SoC?
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: cyberdrummer on March 11, 2011, 10:58:44 AM
I think Ytse Jam.

That and The Killing Hand will be the ones from WDADU to make a return.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on March 11, 2011, 12:29:04 PM
I don't think we will see much of WDADU material live again, considering JP has expressed he doesn't love those songs.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: ? on March 12, 2011, 12:04:39 AM
JM doesn't really care about WDADU, either. This is an interview from '94 but I guess his opinion hasn't really changed: https://johnmyung.tripod.com/articles/irc_chat.txt
Quote
Q: Will you play "A Killing Hand" live?
JM: I don't think so. I don't personally have any plans of playing anything off the first
album. We have enough material not to. Most of the stuff on the last tour, we tried to
document on to Marquee CD or the Tokyo video. They're over and done with for
awhile.
Title: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: The Curious Orange on March 18, 2011, 10:49:21 AM
I'll stick my neck out here and say The Great Debate, Trial of Tears and Endless Sacrifice will all be back in the new set list this tour.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: bosk1 on March 18, 2011, 11:21:58 AM
Yeah, but that's a VERY old interview, and his stated reason is that they just covered a lot of that material on the I&W tour.  That really doesn't apply now.  I'm not saying they WILL play any WDADU, but I see no reason why they shouldn't. 

As far as my own hopes and guesses, I guess I'll go as follows:
-Pre-I&W:  I don't have a strong preference one way or the other and I can't guess whether they will or won't play anything.
-From I&W, I would want Wait For Sleep and Take The Time.  But I have such mixed feelings about TTT since it's impossible to sing the "pensive fear" section, so I don't know.
-From Awake, I'd love The Mirror and Lie.  They've been rotated in a bit over the last few tours, but not played a lot, and I've never seen them.  If there is a DVD release this cycle, I'd love for both to be on there. 
-I'd never turn down an opportunity to see ACOS, but I'm not banking on them bringing it back unless they do evening-with shows again.  And even then, I'm not sure they would.
-From FII, either of the other two ballads:  Anna Lee or Take Away My Pain (96 version).  They really need to take Hollow Years out back and shoot it.  Peruvians Skies or Burning My Soul wouldn't be bad either.  Honestly, although I'm just speculating here, my gut tells me we'll see a resurgence of FII material on this tour. 
-Scenes:  Not sure if they'll do anything from this album.  They might throw Home or TSCO out there just for some crowd reaction.  But otherwise, I'm not sure they'll play it at all.
-Six:  Don't know.  Although I know some disagree, I don't think we will EVER see the 12SS played in its entirety.  That being the case, I think TGP may see a comeback this tour.  It would be awesome if they did a mini-12SS with TGP into TSF.  I could see this realistically happening.
-TOT:  Not sure what they'll do with this one.  ES was played on the SC tour, so it seems unlikely.  But then again, I think JP really likes it, so it wouldn't surprise me if it came back.  I have no desire to see it.  They might also bring the metal with HTF.  But it also would not surprise me if they just went "safe" with As I Am and/or ITNOG.
-Octavarium:  Never Enough will be retired.  I don't see TROAE or Octavarium being played.  These Walls would be awesome.  It seems well-liked, and it's never been toured. 
-SC:  Hmm...  My guess would be Forsaken.  Short song that allows them to represent the album without taking up too much set time.
-BCSL:  Probably one song from either of the two singles.  Maybe TSF.  I wouldn't expect much else.
-New album:  Heavily represented, as is usual for DT.
Title: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 20, 2011, 05:14:39 AM
I'll stick my neck out here and say The Great Debate, Trial of Tears and Endless Sacrifice will all be back in the new set list this tour.
Hopefully not ES, they've played the fuck out that in recent tours.  Give it a long rest.

Hopefully Lifting Shadows Off A Dream makes a return to the setlist.
Title: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: wasteland on March 20, 2011, 06:19:59 AM
There are 4 really great DT song that have not been played since 2004:

ACOS
Stream Of Consciousness
Trial Of Tears
Finally Free

My guess is that at least two of them will be widely featured on this forthcoming tour.
Title: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: Ben_Jamin on March 20, 2011, 08:56:36 AM
Id rather have SOC and FF be back in the set.
Title: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on March 20, 2011, 12:36:51 PM
Id rather have SOC and FF be back in the set.

Not this
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: The Curious Orange on March 22, 2011, 03:17:08 AM
But I have such mixed feelings about TTT since it's impossible to sing the "pensive fear" section, so I don't know.

Wish they'd just lower the key of that section so that James can sing it comfortably. It would be far less obtrusive than playing the truncated version, which I hate.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: jam406 on March 24, 2011, 05:12:50 AM
SDOIT please.

inb4 not gonna happen.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: cyberdrummer on March 24, 2011, 05:27:44 AM

inb4 not gonna happen.

You said it.

As much as I'd like it to, of course.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: Jamariquay on March 24, 2011, 11:26:53 AM
Hm.

Under A Glass Moon
Learning To Live
6:00
Lifting Shadows Off A Dream
Space-Dye Vest
New Millennium
Anna Lee
Trial Of Tears
Through Her Eyes
Finally Free
The Great Debate
About To Crash
Honor Thy Father
Stream Of Consciousness
These Walls

Plus, the usual staples on occasion (Pull Me Under, Metropolis, The Spirit Carries On, etc), and 3-4 new songs. I'd actually love it if they stayed away from the 20+ minute long epics entirely this tour, and played a larger number of shorter songs, like Rush typically does.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: MajorMatt on March 24, 2011, 12:47:25 PM
Under A Glass Moon
Learning To Live
6:00
Lifting Shadows Off A Dream
Space-Dye Vest
New Millennium
Anna Lee
Trial Of Tears
Through Her Eyes
Finally Free
The Great Debate
About To Crash
Honor Thy Father
Stream Of Consciousness
These Walls

Yes please!
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: wasteland on March 24, 2011, 01:09:53 PM
Some sort of possible for a quasi-AEW show. I came up with them some time ago, but i find them quite suitable (and enjoyable) for the summer tour, if the band does decide not to unveil any song from the new album.

0. Twin Peaks / Band History
1. Metropolis Pt.1 >
2. > Overture 1928
3. Strange Deja Vu > Speech
4. The Killing Hand
5. Peruvian Skies
6. Trial Of Tears
7. Wither
8. Scarred
9. Forsaken
10. Stream Of Consciousness
11. A Change Of Seasons
---
Encore:
12. To Live Forever > Ext. Jam
13. Learning To Live

or

0. Twin Peaks / Band History
1. The Glass Prison
2. A Fortune In Lies
3. These Walls
4. Beyond This Life > Speech
5. A Rite Of Passage
6. Under A Glass Moon
7. Lifting Shadows Off A Dream
8. Misunderstood
9. The Dark Eternal Night
10. The Mirror / Reprise
11. Just Let Me Breathe
12. Vacant >
13. > Octavarium
Encore
---
14. The Ytse Jam
15. In The Name Of God (ext. outro solo).


To say it all, I definitely see The Ytse Jam coming back to life (as well as ACOS), and a strong resurrection of FII, as someone hinted...
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: cyberdrummer on March 24, 2011, 01:13:37 PM
They would both be great setlists.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: JayOctavarium on March 25, 2011, 05:10:00 AM
tired so making short post

I cant see 12ss, or HTF / ACOS (unless its just a sectional thing)

I can see us getting a rotational set closer of TCOT, ITNOG, LITS, T of T, Voices? , TMoLS (insert a few good set enders here), and an encore consisting of  WFS/LTL, or TSCO (or some other ballady type) with PMU, Metropolis, TTT, etc... one of those

and Mirror/Lie or Mirror / Reprise is a good possibility.

I agree with whoever said  SFAM would probably not get much rotation, 

Blind Faith / Misunderstood / something from disc 2 from SDOIT (one of these)

As I Am... SoC? maybe idk

8vrm we will probably get IWBY / TALW / These Walls (plz)

SC = Forsaken. maybe more PoW? i dont think Constant Motion will be back for a bit

BCSL - Singles... duh

goodnight (4am... ugh)
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: ResultsMayVary on March 25, 2011, 08:23:52 AM
So many good setlists. Hopefully we get to see an amazing amount of great songs this tour cycle.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: MajorMatt on March 31, 2011, 08:19:33 AM
I'm curious as to who the opening band will be for the first UK leg, any speculation?
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: cyberdrummer on March 31, 2011, 08:23:54 AM
I suspect it will be Anathema. Just a hunch really.
Title: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 01, 2011, 04:29:22 AM
I don't think 6:00 or Lifting Shadows Off A Dream have been played since the 6DOIT tour.  Those would be welcome returns to the setlist.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: jonny108 on April 01, 2011, 06:00:17 AM
6.00 would be pretty awesome.

Dream setlist:

6.00
The Killing Hand
(New Song)
The Ytse Jam
Vacant
SoC
These Walls
Another Day
Fatal Tragedy
Lines in the Sand

Encore:
A Change of Seasons

Something along them lines would be awesome.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 01, 2011, 10:07:05 AM
Id be happy with that.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: wasteland on April 01, 2011, 12:53:16 PM
I'm pretty sure that Another Day won't be played on a regular basis again... Way too stressful for James's voice...

Goodnight Kiss or Lifting Shadows would be great replacements for it, though. I feel that these are among the recently overlooked songs really deserving some good live coverage again.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 01, 2011, 01:13:04 PM
Another Day could be played again, on occasion.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: adameastment on April 15, 2011, 12:20:46 PM

Yes please!
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: Dr. DTVT on April 16, 2011, 08:36:39 PM
You know you're almost always going to have an instrumental or extended jam so JLB can dig his hole, so I say...

bring on Hell's Kitchen.  Overture 1928 would be a nice fill in for the entire SFaM album as well.  But really I just want Hell's Kitchen.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: The Silent Cody on April 17, 2011, 01:15:19 AM
I would want A Fortune In Lies as a opener. Then some new tracks from new album ;)
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: Ħ on April 17, 2011, 03:20:33 AM
Here's what I predict.....

WDADU: Nothing honestly.  Maybe The Ytse Jam to showcase the new drummer, but I even doubt that.

IAW: I know we'll probably see PMU and Metropolis, but other than that, maybe or maybe not.  Nothing needs to be retired, but nothing is really calling to be brought back.

Awake: I really think we'll see 6:00.  It's a great drumming song, and would be a great second-set opener.  We'll possibly see SDV as well, and possibly a Mirror/Lie thing.  Personally, I'd love to see LSOAD, but I don't know if it's in the cards.  I think AMBI is done for now, and I both don't care and don't expect anything else.......unless they did an Awake medley of sorts, which I haven't really thought of until just now.

FII: For some reason, it seems like they've been bringing back a lot of material lately, and I don't know if it will be this heavy this time around.  I think HY is done for good.  Of course, I'd love to see some stuff, but I don't think it'll be there.  Maybe TAMP?  And as much as I'd love to see some of the B-sides, I don't think the remaining members really care too much for that stuff.....except maybe Speak to Me, which I know JR really likes.

SFAM: I don't think we'll see anything.  Really, I can't think of a single song that will make it to the setlist this time around.

SDOIT: I actually think we'll see TGP.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but they haven't really played it since the Gigantour era, have they?  Other than that, I think everything else is a no-go except maybe Misunderstood and POSSIBLY TGD.

TOT: I don't really expect anything.  Maybe ES and HTF, but I don't see any real incentive they'd have to play those.

OVM: I actually think we'll see a fair amount of material.  I think almost everything is fair game except for maybe SS.  For some reason, I really think we'll see TW and IWBY, and maybe even the title track as an encore or something.

SC: Hopefully nothing.  But even then...maybe ITPOE?

BCSL: Probably Wither.  I hope to God that AROP dies a very horrible death.  Honestly, most fans don't really like it that much and they've played it at pretty much every show for the past two tours.

B-sides:  I don't expect much...but I would really really really like to see Don't Look Past Me.  They've never played it, but it totally seems like something JP would dig.  I think he's the lyricist?  Anyway, other than that, maybe Speak to Me.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: wasteland on April 17, 2011, 03:32:41 AM
SFAM: I don't think we'll see anything.  Really, I can't think of a single song that will make it to the setlist this time around.
I just can't figure out why most people here seem to be so confident about this. It's not like the band have been overplaying it lately...

Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: Raoul Sanchez on April 20, 2011, 06:21:05 AM
Because it's a kind of album that works better when played as the full thing, instead of taking a few songs.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: MetropolisxPt1 on April 23, 2011, 11:01:13 PM
they will play a track from sfam no matter what its arguably their best album and they even played home for the maiden fans.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: Tomislav95 on April 24, 2011, 12:23:56 PM
I just want them in Croatia ;D
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 24, 2011, 02:15:03 PM
I want them to come here to Albuquerque in any way.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: wasteland on April 25, 2011, 04:01:21 AM
I will probably attend their first show in Rome, on July 4th, and then post a sort of review here.

I just hope they don't open with ANTR again  :-\
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: Metropolis pt.-1 on April 25, 2011, 07:09:17 AM
I will probably attend their first show in Rome, on July 4th, and then post a sort of review here.

I just hope they don't open with ANTR again  :-\

I doubt they will. If they did that last time they played in Rome, it's extremely likely they wont do it again.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: The Silent Cody on April 25, 2011, 07:34:14 AM
I will probably attend their first show in Rome, on July 4th, and then post a sort of review here.

I just hope they don't open with ANTR again  :-\

I doubt they will. If they did that last time they played in Rome, it's extremely likely they wont do it again.
I think that they will be opening with the song that is opening new album.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: wasteland on April 25, 2011, 09:12:22 AM
I think that they will be opening with the song that is opening new album.
But what if the new album will still be unreleased by the time of the gig, which is to say, in two months and a couple of days?

Opening a concert with a song noone has ever heard without any information or introduction? I don't see that happening.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: The Silent Cody on April 25, 2011, 02:15:33 PM
I think that they will be opening with the song that is opening new album.
But what if the new album will still be unreleased by the time of the gig, which is to say, in two months and a couple of days?

Opening a concert with a song noone has ever heard without any information or introduction? I don't see that happening.
Agree  ;) but I'm hoping that album will be release for this time ;) If not, as I said, I would want A Fortune In Lies as a opener  :tup
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: setrataeso on April 26, 2011, 10:40:58 PM
Watching the documentary, do you guys think it's safe to say that the drummer audition songs will be on the next tour?
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: Global Laziness on April 26, 2011, 10:46:56 PM
Watching the documentary, do you guys think it's safe to say that the drummer audition songs will be on the next tour?

Hard to say. They played The Dance of Eternity last tour, so I doubt they'll play it again for a while. I can't really see A Nightmare to Remember being used in any capacity other than an opener, and they're probably more likely to open with a song from the new album. *shrugs*
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: setrataeso on April 26, 2011, 10:50:41 PM
Watching the documentary, do you guys think it's safe to say that the drummer audition songs will be on the next tour?

Hard to say. They played The Dance of Eternity last tour, so I doubt they'll play it again for a while. I can't really see A Nightmare to Remember being used in any capacity other than an opener, and they're probably more likely to open with a song from the new album. *shrugs*

They've played songs on subsequent tours before. Perhaps The Dance of Eternity was well received last time around and they are considering doing it again.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 26, 2011, 11:37:41 PM
Why wouldn't they. All BC&SL songs need more play. And if they do 2:30 this tour, I could see them playing ANTR.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: Jamesman42 on April 26, 2011, 11:41:47 PM
You know you're almost always going to have an instrumental or extended jam so JLB can dig his hole, so I say...

bring on Hell's Kitchen.  Overture 1928 would be a nice fill in for the entire SFaM album as well.  But really I just want Hell's Kitchen.

I really hope they play Hell's Kitchen
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: Tomislav95 on April 27, 2011, 03:17:33 AM
You know you're almost always going to have an instrumental or extended jam so JLB can dig his hole, so I say...

bring on Hell's Kitchen.  Overture 1928 would be a nice fill in for the entire SFaM album as well.  But really I just want Hell's Kitchen.

I really hope they play Hell's Kitchen
Me too.
BTW, Overture 1928 is nothing without Strange Deja-Vu ;)
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: wasteland on April 27, 2011, 03:43:16 AM
You know you're almost always going to have an instrumental or extended jam so JLB can dig his hole, so I say...

bring on Hell's Kitchen.  Overture 1928 would be a nice fill in for the entire SFaM album as well.  But really I just want Hell's Kitchen.

I really hope they play Hell's Kitchen
If I'm not mistaken, H'sK was only played once in its entirety, nearly thirteen years ago. Maybe the time has come.

 :hefdaddy

As for the audition songs, TDOE and the nameless ballad are always welcome, ANTR isn't. :tdwn
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: Dream Team on April 27, 2011, 08:11:40 AM
The new setlists will be heavily loaded with songs from DT11, that's a foregone conclusion. Let's say 60 minutes worth. That leaves an hour and a half for other material. You know either PMU or Met or both will be in there. I'm hoping the rest of the set is rounded out with TGD, UAGM, AMBI, LTL, and either OV or ACOS as an encore. That would be a dream concert for me.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: wasteland on April 27, 2011, 08:34:07 AM
The new setlists will be heavily loaded with songs from DT11, that's a foregone conclusion. Let's say 60 minutes worth. That leaves an hour and a half for other material. You know either PMU or Met or both will be in there. I'm hoping the rest of the set is rounded out with TGD, UAGM, AMBI, LTL, and either OV or ACOS as an encore. That would be a dream concert for me.
I think that would be a drean concert pretty much for anyone (assuming that DT11 is a strong album). But i wouldn't mind some ballads to provide a few relaxed and more intimate moments :)
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: Dream Team on April 27, 2011, 12:01:24 PM
The new setlists will be heavily loaded with songs from DT11, that's a foregone conclusion. Let's say 60 minutes worth. That leaves an hour and a half for other material. You know either PMU or Met or both will be in there. I'm hoping the rest of the set is rounded out with TGD, UAGM, AMBI, LTL, and either OV or ACOS as an encore. That would be a dream concert for me.
I think that would be a drean concert pretty much for anyone (assuming that DT11 is a strong album). But i wouldn't mind some ballads to provide a few relaxed and more intimate moments :)


I'm assuming at least 1 of the new songs will be ballad-y. And the first half of OV is very soft.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: purpleplanet10 on May 01, 2011, 05:36:56 AM
here are are a few i'd like to see, now that MP is not in control of the setlist i bet we might/will see a few curve balls

Take The Time
Space Dye Vest
6:00
Caught In A Web
You Not Me
Burning My Soul
Strange Deja Vu
Misunderstood
The Great Debate
Endless Sacrifice
In The Name Of God
These Walls
Prophets Of War
I Walk Beside You
The Dark Eternal Night
The Count of Tuscany

(Mangini already knows)

A Nightmare to Remember
The Spirit Carries On
The Dance of Eternity
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: Bandit Manatee on May 01, 2011, 10:50:26 AM
I think we could see Space Dye Vest.  It feels right.

I think we could eliminate songs like the Best of Times and the AA suite.  These seem way too personal songs to play  after portnoy leaves the band.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: Global Laziness on May 01, 2011, 11:00:20 AM
I think we could eliminate songs like the Best of Times and the AA suite.  These seem way too personal songs to play  after portnoy leaves the band.

I don't think they'll take the 12-Step Suite out of rotation; the songs are too :metal.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: The Silent Cody on May 01, 2011, 12:57:55 PM
I always wanted to heat all the AA Suite live... but I really doubt they will ever play it, because of personal Portnoy's lyrics... but the songs are killers  :metal :metal
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: As I Am on May 21, 2011, 10:01:37 PM
Well, I'm ASSuming once the official world tour begins in September, DT will be doing an "Evening With" type show to make the fans happy, so with that in mind I think set ONE will be the ENTIRE new album in full. I think set two will consist of a rotating set of 25-26 songs so............

Here's what I hope for.....

WDADU
"Only A Matter of Time", "Status Seeker" and "Light Fuse and Get Away"

IAW
"Metropolis", "Learning To Live" & "Take The Time"

Awake
"Space Dye Vest" (I think this will be the first song in the encore at ALL shows). I also think since this will be played every night that it will be the ONLY song from Awake we get this tour.

FII
"Take Away My Pain", "Peruvian Skies" and "You Not Me"

SFAM
"Through Her Eyes", "Strange Deja Vu" and "The Spirit Carries On"

SDOIT
"The Glass Prison", "Solitary Shell" and "About To Crash (reprise)/Losing Time (Grand Finale)

TOT
"In The Name of God" and "Endless Sacrifice"

OVM
"These Walls" and "I Walk Beside You"

SC
"In The Presence of Enemies Pt. 1 & 2", "Forsaken" and "The Dark Eternal Night"

BCSL
"Wither" and "Stargazer" (in honor of RJD). 

B-sides
"Don't Look Past Me" and "To Live Forever". 
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: setrataeso on May 22, 2011, 02:58:23 PM
It seems like everyone is ignoring my request for no "here's what I'm hoping for".

C'mon guys, we should be able to use logic and reasoning to determine a somewhat accurate setlist.

Let's try to have less of this:
"Don't Look Past Me" and "To Live Forever". 
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: The Curious Orange on May 23, 2011, 07:04:59 AM
Seeing as the tour starts in July and the new album doesn't come out till September, I'd say they're going to do exactly what they did on the last tour. Start with a "greatest hits" setlist, including ONE SONG from the new album, then gradually introduce more songs as the tour progresses. I wouldn't be surprised to see ANTR start the set for the first few shows, before being replaced by the opening track from DT11. I'd also put money on PMU, Metropolis, As I Am, CM and AROP being in the opening setlist before possibly being replaced as the tour goes on. I'm hoping to see either Trial of Tears or Peruvian Skies in the setlist too. Hell's Kitchen would be  :metal
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: setrataeso on May 23, 2011, 11:23:08 AM
I think ANTR will be a returning song. I definitely think the 3 audition songs will be mainstays on the first part of the tour.
The tour is called "The Spirit Carries On", I think it's pretty evident that they will pull that one out.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: wasteland on May 23, 2011, 11:58:55 AM
I think ANTR will be a returning song. I definitely think the 3 audition songs will be mainstays on the first part of the tour.
The tour is called "The Spirit Carries On", I think it's pretty evident that they will pull that one out.
Is the tour to be really called this way? I thought it was a misconception based on a misreading of the first press release coming from the band after MP's departure...
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: Global Laziness on May 23, 2011, 12:53:53 PM
The tour is called "The Spirit Carries On", I think it's pretty evident that they will pull that one out.

Interesting, I hadn't heard that. Source?
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: As I Am on May 23, 2011, 12:57:08 PM
Well, I'm ASSuming once the official world tour begins in September, DT will be doing an "Evening With" type show to make the fans happy, so with that in mind I think set ONE will be the ENTIRE new album in full. I think set two will consist of a rotating set of 25-26 songs so............

Here's what I THINK.....

WDADU
"Only A Matter of Time", "Status Seeker" and "Light Fuse and Get Away"

IAW
"Metropolis", "Learning To Live" & "Take The Time"

Awake
"Space Dye Vest" (I think this will be the first song in the encore at ALL shows). I also think since this will be played every night that it will be the ONLY song from Awake we get this tour.

FII
"Take Away My Pain", "Peruvian Skies" and "You Not Me"

SFAM
"Through Her Eyes", "Strange Deja Vu" and "The Spirit Carries On"

SDOIT
"The Glass Prison", "Solitary Shell" and "About To Crash (reprise)/Losing Time (Grand Finale)

TOT
"In The Name of God" and "Endless Sacrifice"

OVM
"These Walls" and "I Walk Beside You"

SC
"In The Presence of Enemies Pt. 1 & 2", "Forsaken" and "The Dark Eternal Night"

BCSL
"Wither" and "Stargazer" (in honor of RJD). 

B-sides
"Don't Look Past Me" and "To Live Forever". 

better ::)
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: setrataeso on May 23, 2011, 08:09:23 PM

better ::)

Well, if that's actually what you think, you are certainly stretching with a number of those selections...

Status Seeker hasn't been played since 1993 (aside from the one instance in 2004).
Light Fuse and Get Away hasn't been played since 1993 (aside from 2 occasions in 2004) and has only been played 13 times in total.
Space Dye Vest has been unofficially played once. I can't see the band getting behind a song that would go over so poorly live, when they could play a guaranteed crowd-pleaser.
Take Away My Pain hasn't been played since 1998. I believe Portnoy was not a fan of this song, and I don't think the band or the fans miss it enough to make a revival.
You Not Me...this is a joke right? A song that has been played 3 times, and is often touted as one of DT's worst songs, is going to make a revival in 2011? I don't know about that...
Stargazer is not timely at all. I could see them playing this a year ago, when Ronnie's death was fresh, but not now. Plus DT has moved away from playing covers for the most part (however, that could change if a return to Evening With shows is indeed forthcoming).
The B-sides will not be played.
The rest of the songs are possibilities.

Understand I'm not bullying you, but don't just change "hope for" to "think" and expect me to do a complete turnaround; I'm going to call you out if I think you're jerking me around.
Of course, I could be very wrong about 1 or 2 songs here, but I don't see DT taking that many setlist risks when they are in such a precarious position.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: setrataeso on May 23, 2011, 08:10:26 PM
The tour is called "The Spirit Carries On", I think it's pretty evident that they will pull that one out.

Interesting, I hadn't heard that. Source?

I seem to recall the name of the tour being uttered at the end of the drummer auditions. I feel like Jordan mentioned on his twitter as well.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: Global Laziness on May 24, 2011, 01:50:30 AM
The tour is called "The Spirit Carries On", I think it's pretty evident that they will pull that one out.

Interesting, I hadn't heard that. Source?

I seem to recall the name of the tour being uttered at the end of the drummer auditions. I feel like Jordan mentioned on his twitter as well.

Well the video was called The Spirit Carries On but i don't have any memory of hearing it in the videos or on Twitter. Hmm.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: The Curious Orange on May 24, 2011, 04:49:29 AM
Opening setlist, will evolve as more DT11 songs are added:

ANTR
As I Am
Constant Motion
Peruvian Skies
NEW SONG
Panic Attack
Wither
AROP
Foresaken
Endless Sacrifice
The Great Debate
TSCO

encore:
PMU/Metropolis
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: jonny108 on May 24, 2011, 07:02:51 AM
Opening setlist, will evolve as more DT11 songs are added:

ANTR
As I Am
Constant Motion
Peruvian Skies
NEW SONG
Panic Attack
Wither
AROP
Foresaken
Endless Sacrifice
The Great Debate
TSCO

encore:
PMU/Metropolis

Meh...not a big fan of that setlist at all.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: The Silent Cody on May 24, 2011, 08:37:31 AM
Opening setlist, will evolve as more DT11 songs are added:

ANTR
As I Am
Constant Motion
Peruvian Skies
NEW SONG
Panic Attack
Wither
AROP
Foresaken
Endless Sacrifice
The Great Debate
TSCO

encore:
PMU/Metropolis
:|
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: The Curious Orange on May 24, 2011, 09:32:46 AM
Meh...not a big fan of that setlist at all.

Neither am I. I just figured they'd start off playing a "vanilla" set of fairly standard songs, then mix it up as the tour goes on.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: cyberdrummer on May 24, 2011, 09:56:36 AM
I'm going to three shows in a row in the summer, I really hope that's not the setlist.  :lol
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: Ben_Jamin on May 24, 2011, 01:26:36 PM
I hope they at least play one song from each album.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: setrataeso on May 24, 2011, 01:27:12 PM
I hope they at least play one song from each album.

Seems pretty unlikely
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: Ben_Jamin on May 24, 2011, 01:59:44 PM
Not really, 9 songs (excluding WDADU, obviously) that have potential...

1. A Nightmare to Remeber
2. Forsaken
3. Misunderstood
4. Endless Sacrifice
5. These Walls
6. 6:00
7. Lines In The Sand
8. The Dance Of Eternity
9. Metropolis Pt. 1
 Encore
 - The Spirit Carries On

Almost 1hr 30min. If ANTR is the opener. But yeah, they"ll most likely have AROP CM, and PA. Unless they surprise us.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: wasteland on May 24, 2011, 02:36:33 PM
I'm going to three shows in a row in the summer, I really hope that's not the setlist.  :lol

Are you to record at least one of them?  ::)
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: cyberdrummer on May 24, 2011, 05:22:18 PM
Afraid not. Much as I appreciate it when people do record shows, I just want to go and rock out and enjoy the gig. 
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: setrataeso on May 24, 2011, 05:35:06 PM
Not really, 9 songs (excluding WDADU, obviously) that have potential...

1. A Nightmare to Remeber
2. Forsaken
3. Misunderstood
4. Endless Sacrifice
5. These Walls
6. 6:00
7. Lines In The Sand
8. The Dance Of Eternity
9. Metropolis Pt. 1
 Encore
 - The Spirit Carries On

Almost 1hr 30min. If ANTR is the opener. But yeah, they"ll most likely have AROP CM, and PA. Unless they surprise us.

Moreso that it seems unlikely that you'll get a show with songs from each album, whereas I'm sure they'll have songs from each album in the rotation, but you're likely to get multiple songs from certain albums, while some will be left out.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: Ben_Jamin on May 24, 2011, 05:48:15 PM
I'm just sayin its not impossible for them to do it, but I do agree we'll get the 3 audition songs, maybe and the usual songs...unless they surprise us.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: The Silent Cody on May 25, 2011, 07:10:20 AM
https://ow.ly/i/bZEf   ;D :metal
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on May 26, 2011, 05:54:56 AM
H, Kevin Moore wrote the lyrics to "Don't Look Past Me"
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: jonny108 on May 26, 2011, 08:26:34 AM
I could see them playing Octavarium on this tour.  :)
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: wasteland on May 26, 2011, 09:50:57 AM
I could see them playing Octavarium on this tour.  :)

Yeah, would be nice indeed. I remember Jordan tweeted about how he "forgot how much an awesome song Octavarium is" a few months ago.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: setrataeso on May 27, 2011, 01:51:13 PM
Octavarium would not surprise me, it's past due for a comeback.
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: jonny108 on May 27, 2011, 02:23:24 PM
Octavarium at High Voltage would go down a storm.  The perfect song for a Rock, metal and prog festival  :metal
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: Ben_Jamin on May 27, 2011, 02:37:01 PM
How long of a set do they get?
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: wasteland on May 27, 2011, 03:13:59 PM
How long of a set do they get?

Well, one year ago Transatlantic got approximately 90 minutes (encore included), and they were headliners. It is most likely that DT will not be given more than that, unfortunately...
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: jonny108 on May 29, 2011, 07:38:41 AM
Last year ELP started at 8.45 and finished at 10.30.  However there was 6 bands on last year and this year there is only 5 so they might have 2 hours. Plus Transatlantic got less time than the main stage headliners due to them being on the prog stage. 
Title: Re: 2011 Tour Speculation
Post by: The Curious Orange on May 31, 2011, 09:03:31 AM
How long of a set do they get?

Well, one year ago Transatlantic got approximately 90 minutes (encore included), and they were headliners. It is most likely that DT will not be given more than that, unfortunately...

Transatlantic were headling the second stage. DT are headlining the main stage. That makes the world of difference.