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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: tjanuranus on February 24, 2011, 01:23:17 AM
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Intel and apple have been working on a technology called light peak (if you didn't know.) No one knew when it was going to be ready but it seems it's coming out today! Intel is going to announce it tomorrow and apple is going to put it in their new macbook pros being announced tomorrow. This will do away with USB3 most likely because Intel will be implementing it with all of their chipsets. Starting out with minimum 10gb per second transfer rate going up to 100 gbps! Also networking is possible with it. Here is the low down...
CNet reports that Intel's media event starts at 10 a.m. Pacific on Thursday, February 24th. CNet believes that Intel will be unveiling final details of Light Peak.
[Light Peak is] a transmission technology designed by Intel that promises to bring 10-gigabit-per-second speeds for data transfers to and from external devices, besting recently introduced solutions like USB 3.0. Intel's broader vision is to have it replace the myriad specialty ports on laptops and desktop machines with one that can do just about everything, while scaling its bandwidth potential to support future computing needs.
CNet expects that Apple will not officially launch the new MacBook Pros until after the Intel event. Intel's event starts at 10 a.m. Pacific / 1 p.m. Eastern.
Meanwhile, we've learned that the term "Thunderbolt" is actually labeled as an Intel trademark on the leaked MacBook Pro packaging, so we suspect that will be the name used for the technology broadly across all platforms.
As for why Thunderbolt (formerly Light Peak) uses the DisplayPort connector rather than the USB one, The Wall Street Journal Digits blog speculates that USB Implementers Forum wasn't happy about Intel co-opting their plug:
The USB Implementers Forum -- which oversees the evolution of that ubiquitous variety of connectors -- put out a statement last summer that did not sound particularly friendly to Light Peak. "USB connectors are not general purpose connectors and are not designed to be used in support of other technology applications or standards or as combo connectors," the group said.
Meanwhile, Apple designed the mini DisplayPort connector and opened it for free licensing, which may offer some explanation as to its choice. We're certain to hear more details Thursday.
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Now, now. It's not nice to steal someone else's post.
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=1d32823462ce91a84dfb5115482dad82&t=1101569
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yeah i intentionally copied it from there. Whats the problem? lol
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the first part is my own post
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yeah i intentionally copied it from there. Whats the problem? lol
The problem is not citing your source. If you want to post an article, fine, but post a link to the original article as well.
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ok ok i was just excited and geeking out for a minute. Been waiting a long time for this day! larl
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Seems pointless to me.
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Why not invent a unique "plug"? All you need is to install a PCI card on computers without it until it becomes standard like USB. This sounds awesome though.
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Casino? Ca-scene-it.
Firewire anyone?
Why invent a faster way to transfer data with a cord when everyone wants everything transmitted wirelessly.
I guess LAN and Help Desk people will be able to make use of this, but I don't see alot of home use for corded data transfer speeds of that magnitude. (I typed that last sentence using Admiral Ackbar's voice at the same time)
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Now all we need is for various manufacturers to invent 12 different proprietary interfaces for the thing so that everybody's constantly buying new cables for each device they own.
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This helps for playing HD Media through an external hard drive without needing a RAID card or a Fiber card. I can see it being used for video editing/audio editing.
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Power over ethernet already does most of what its trying to do.
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I don't think some of you are getting it. The idea is for this to replace every connection. FireWire USB Ethernet etc... The first stage of it can be up to 100gbps. So this one cable can sync your computer your iPod iphone iPad (or other manufacturer equivalent) and do networking. Also hard drives, audio and video equipment, anything really. Since intel is behind it the likely hood of it succeeding is very high.
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here are some demo vids from today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kidmWiqKzqY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kidmWiqKzqY)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY5TjnR5Z-c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY5TjnR5Z-c)
This is rumored to be on the iPad2 also. I plan on getting one now that i found out i can program and compile Java on it. Won't need to bring my mbpro to class anymore.
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I don't think some of you are getting it. The idea is for this to replace every connection. FireWire USB Ethernet etc... The first stage of it can be up to 100gbps. So this one cable can sync your computer your iPod iphone iPad (or other manufacturer equivalent) and do networking. Also hard drives, audio and video equipment, anything really. Since intel is behind it the likely hood of it succeeding is very high.
I think firewire had the same ambitions.
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huge difference. Firewire was mainly an apple thing originally. This is an intel thing that apple worked on them with. Intel is supported this from now in chipsets. They don't even't support usb3. Did you watch the videos? There is NOTHING like that on the market. It's exciting stuff!
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huge difference. Firewire was mainly an apple thing originally. This is an intel thing that apple worked on them with. Intel is supported this from now in chipsets. They don't even't support usb3. Did you watch the videos? There is NOTHING like that on the market. It's exciting stuff!
you seem to be a bit over-excited for this, not to say that this is exciting to begin with but in a nutshell, firewire was built as a replacement for SCSI yet it still was also a connector for printing devices, cameras, and even some hard drives. In a sense, Firewire, although not pushed as a universal replacement at the time, I believe the long term idea was a bit more lofty than what the developers had for it at the time. manufactures are all trying to come out with the "universal" plug and this new technology coming out with Intel backing it is just another one of those "universal" plugs. USB3.0 was vying for that but since 100 is greater than 30 I have a feeling people will want to push over to Lightpeak. Time will only tell if it really does become what it was meant to be and a LOT of that will be based on the market entirely. I would suspect that this is not the end-all of universal plugs and that in time more will be invented. It's way too early in the game to write off USB or Firewire at this point.
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omg this video just got me SUPER hard
https://www.viddler.com/simple/bb1f5092/ (https://www.viddler.com/simple/bb1f5092/)
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Impressive speed, but still not seeing the excitement for the average consumer. Unless PCs come with 8 harddisc RAID 0 arrays as standard and I have missed that.
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really? Transfering 5 gigs in 5 seconds wouldn't appeal to the average customer? I think it would. Hook your iphone, iPad or droid up to your computer and transfer all your music and videos in seconds. I think that will go over well!
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Pretty much all hard drives top out at 150 mb/s, and in real terms are often alot lower than that, so yeah, the average consumer doesn't have much need beyond USB 2.0 or estata.
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really? Transfering 5 gigs in 5 seconds wouldn't appeal to the average customer?
If that average consumer is standing in front of the microwave while their cup of coffee heats up, impatiently shouting, "C'MON, C'MON!"
But seriously, how much data does the average consumer have, and wish to transfer on any regular basis? I have 40gb on my computer total, and would never need to transfer significant amounts of data in seconds.
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40 gigs? i had to guy by a 3tb external drive so i can properly do Time Machine backups. I got a raid enclosure for it so i can add another 3tb drive in the future when needed. Storing video files takes up a lot of space and many people are now going away from dvd's and storing on the computer. Of course it's not only video but yeah there is a need for it. I have a 60 gig SSD in my laptop just for the OS and apps. I store documents and light stuff on it. By i have a second 500 gig 7200 drive in the laptop for real storage. I'm doing mostly what the average user would do. Ripping, downloading, burning etc...
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40 gigs? i had to guy by a 3tb external drive so i can properly do Time Machine backups. I got a raid enclosure for it so i can add another 3tb drive in the future when needed. Storing video files takes up a lot of space and many people are now going away from dvd's and storing on the computer. Of course it's not only video but yeah there is a need for it. I have a 60 gig SSD in my laptop just for the OS and apps. I store documents and light stuff on it. By i have a second 500 gig 7200 drive in the laptop for real storage. I'm doing mostly what the average user would do. Ripping, downloading, burning etc...
I'm sure you will benefit from this technology, no one is disputing that. However, like XJDenton pointed out, unless we move off of hard drives and every single PC sold can utilize this to its fullest potential, it will just be a really cool technology that enthusiasts use.
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10, or even 5 years ago this would have been amazing. Imagine plugging every single device you have in to another with the same cable. No more having to have several different cables for your computer, TV, camera, etc.
The market is moving to all wireless. I don't know how long it will take, but it's only a matter of time before we don't have cables for anything anymore. Though at this moment, wireless isn't fast enough to be practical for most applications other than web browsing.
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Thunderbolt and Lightpeak, very very frightening!
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So, in simple terms, LightPeak is a storage box that connects to my PC/MAC and transfers the data at an incredibly high-speed rate so I can, for example, play Blu-Ray movies from the box directly to my TV/Monitor/Computer without having it to save it into my computer? Not only that, I can also duplicate the huge file in just a few seconds?
If I got that right, what is it not to like?
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no light peak, now called thunder bolt. Is a cable that allows you 10gb per second back and forth bandwidth. There is nothing that can come close to the actual transfer speeds. As long as the device has the light peak port it can connect to almost anything and you can do networking with it. Once the fiber optic version comes out it will do up 100gb per second! Basically usb firewire, esata, ethernet are irrelevant if companies start to adopt it. Odds are since it's intel putting it out.. they will. Apple does not have exclusivity they are just the first to get it because they have been working with INtel for a while on this.
and there is NOTHING not to like. This benefits everyone. Wireless transfer speeds are horrible compared to normal connections now. Compared to this? :hat
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I'll stick with PoE thanks.
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POE and lightpeak are no where near the same thing.
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Indeed. PoE is much more sensible as it is easily compatible with existing infrastructure.
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Indeed. PoE is much more sensible as it is easily compatible with existing infrastructure.
And puts out more power than the 10W Thunderbolt provides.
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can you sync your phone, tablet, hook up a keyboard and mouse, external display, transfer files to an external HD at 10GBps bandwidth, and i don't know... a million other things with it?
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why do you need to?
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why do you need to?
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Sure, but unless the hardware you're connecting supports and requires that bandwidth, it's pointless. Keyboards/mice have no need for it, and, as, XJ pointed out, hard drives have way more limited write speeds than that, so pretty much every other large capacity piece of hardware you'd need such speed for is already bottlenecked by it's own limitations. It's like getting a trailer hitch for a truck that can support 100 tons of weight, but your truck can only pull 10 tons.
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Sigz wins the thread.
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I'm sure it will get some use in the pro sector like Firewire has made some headway in the pro audio sector. But I can't see it being the next big thing. Especially when every PC on earth uses USB for pretty much everything. Whatever the specs thunderbolt has, USB 3.0 has the advantage that 99% of existing hardware can use it, compared to thunderbolts launch line of about 5 items.
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ok then why would Intel spend years and MILLIONS of dollars developing this if there was no point. What's the point of USB3 then? or esata or anything that is made to increase speed.
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ok then why would Intel spend years and MILLIONS of dollars developing this if there was no point.
For the same reason Apple spend years developing FireWire.
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Yeah to guys are right it's useless garbage.
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I don't know if it's useless garbage. It's certainly not the next big thing, though.
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ok then why would Intel spend years and MILLIONS of dollars developing this if there was no point.
For the same reason Apple spend years developing FireWire.
This, this is essentially how all big companies work. They spend a ton of money developing something relatively useless or unnecessary and then create a huge advertising shitstorm and it gets blown completely out of proportion. Then, the average consumer, being about as intelligent as a dinosaur, buys it.
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ok then why would Intel spend years and MILLIONS of dollars developing this if there was no point.
For the same reason Apple spend years developing FireWire.
This, this is essentially how all big companies work. They spend a ton of money developing something relatively useless or unnecessary and then create a huge advertising shitstorm and it gets blown completely out of proportion. Then, the average consumer, being about as intelligent as a dinosaur, buys it.
tl;dr: Apple
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ok then why would Intel spend years and MILLIONS of dollars developing this if there was no point.
For the same reason Apple spend years developing FireWire.
This, this is essentially how all big companies work. They spend a ton of money developing something relatively useless or unnecessary and then create a huge advertising shitstorm and it gets blown completely out of proportion. Then, the average consumer, being about as intelligent as a dinosaur, buys it.
And all this is extremely effective in providing material for Dilbert.
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(https://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y258/unicross/funny-apple-ipad1-227x300.jpg)
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Boy, he sure is skinny.
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The biggest thing Lightpeak needs to prove is not speed but affordability. USB is uber cheap to manufacture thus it doesn't drive the price of PCs up and you can have 10 plugs on your computer. How expensive is Lightpeak to manufacture? This was one of the biggest downfalls for firewire and why it never caught on as much as USB. If Lightpeak cannot provide the same inexpensive hardware that USB has, it won't make it in the current marketplace.
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This thread made me lol so hard.
:lol :lol :lol
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Sure, but unless the hardware you're connecting supports and requires that bandwidth, it's pointless. Keyboards/mice have no need for it, and, as, XJ pointed out, hard drives have way more limited write speeds than that, so pretty much every other large capacity piece of hardware you'd need such speed for is already bottlenecked by it's own limitations. It's like getting a trailer hitch for a truck that can support 100 tons of weight, but your truck can only pull 10 tons.
Yes but what about flash drives? I think 5 years or so we'll all have SSDs.
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So this is just a first step and maybe in some years it'll become standard. Cool.
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I am sure that if this didn't have Apple's involvement in it, people might be more excited. The moment "Apple" is mentioned, the PC crowd immediately dismisses it.
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Not really. I honestly just don't see what's exciting about a new connection, high transfer rates or not. Sure, it could become the norm in five years after the rest of our hardware catches up, and if it does cool beans. But I don't generally smile myself over new technology, and this certainly isn't going to have much of an impact on my life any time soon, so I don't see much reason to be excited.
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Sure, but unless the hardware you're connecting supports and requires that bandwidth, it's pointless. Keyboards/mice have no need for it, and, as, XJ pointed out, hard drives have way more limited write speeds than that, so pretty much every other large capacity piece of hardware you'd need such speed for is already bottlenecked by it's own limitations. It's like getting a trailer hitch for a truck that can support 100 tons of weight, but your truck can only pull 10 tons.
Yes but what about flash drives? I think 5 years or so we'll all have SSDs.
Currently they top out at 250 mb/s. And thats the ultra fast ones. And SSDs won't take over the sector until they are somewhat comparable in size.
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Not really. I honestly just don't see what's exciting about a new connection, high transfer rates or not. Sure, it could become the norm in five years after the rest of our hardware catches up, and if it does cool beans.
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I am sure that if this didn't have Apple's involvement in it, people might be more excited. The moment "Apple" is mentioned, the PC crowd immediately dismisses it.
Could you give us some evidence of this statement. It kinda sounds like it's all a lot of hot air but maybe I'm missing a few key pieces from articles and studies that actually make the above statement hold any merit whatsoever?
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I am sure that if this didn't have Apple's involvement in it, people might be more excited. The moment "Apple" is mentioned, the PC crowd immediately dismisses it.
Could you give us some evidence of this statement. It kinda sounds like it's all a lot of hot air but maybe I'm missing a few key pieces from articles and studies that actually make the above statement hold any merit whatsoever?
Just read the comments at Engadget. That is more than enough proof. If this had been MS and Intel, it would be the best thing since sliced bread. Apple is the most loved/hated company. Even more so than Microsoft.
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yes if the Thread title was Intel and Google coming out with LightPeak today. I would be mopping up the semen from this forums floor.
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I am sure that if this didn't have Apple's involvement in it, people might be more excited. The moment "Apple" is mentioned, the PC crowd immediately dismisses it.
Could you give us some evidence of this statement. It kinda sounds like it's all a lot of hot air but maybe I'm missing a few key pieces from articles and studies that actually make the above statement hold any merit whatsoever?
Just read the comments at Engadget. That is more than enough proof. If this had been MS and Intel, it would be the best thing since sliced bread. Apple is the most loved/hated company. Even more so than Microsoft.
Do people even hate microsoft anymore? The apple faithful i don't believe do. Because they aren't really a competitor. They own the Desktop OS market. Apple isn't trying to compete there anymore. Their OS is for their products only and that's the way it is and that's the way i like it. I hope that NEVER changes.
Honestly i don't understand all the hate for apple or any other company. They are major corporations if you don't like them don't buy their products. This goes for any company. For instance i personally can't stand Windows. But i don't start threads about how Microsoft sucks ass and Apple is so much better or whatever, like certain threads on this board in particular. And then of course the Nostradomus statements like Lightpeak will be a failure and no one will use it, etc...
I've used apple products almost exclusively since the late 90's because of love the way they work and the way they integrate all of their products. I could go into a lot more detail but that would be pointless. I'm currently in school so i can work for the damn company (as i stated in a different thread.) because i believe in the company and it's been a dream of mine to do so. But if anyone wants to use ANY other product more power to them. But to hate those other companies that you would start threads just to bash them or take the chance in any tech thread to bash them? Seems pretty pathetic to me.
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Do people even hate microsoft anymore? The apple faithful i don't believe do. Because they aren't really a competitor. They own the Desktop OS market. Apple isn't trying to compete there anymore. Their OS is for their products only and that's the way it is and that's the way i like it. I hope that NEVER changes.
Honestly i don't understand all the hate for apple or any other company. They are major corporations if you don't like them don't buy their products. This goes for any company. For instance i personally can't stand Windows. But i don't start threads about how Microsoft sucks ass and Apple is so much better or whatever, like certain threads on this board in particular. And then of course the Nostradomus statements like Lightpeak will be a failure and no one will use it, etc...
I've used apple products almost exclusively since the late 90's because of love the way they work and the way they integrate all of their products. I could into a lot more detail but that would be pointless. I'm currently in school so i can work for the damn company (as i stated in a different thread.) because i believe in the company and it's been a dream of mine to do so. But if anyone wants to use ANY other product more power to them. But to hate those other companies that you would start threads just to bash them or take the chance in any tech thread to bash them? Seems pretty pathetic to me.
Well said. I don't use any Apple products and I don't care to, but I certainly don't hate the company. They're kicking huge amounts of ass in most of what they do.
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I am sure that if this didn't have Apple's involvement in it, people might be more excited. The moment "Apple" is mentioned, the PC crowd immediately dismisses it.
Could you give us some evidence of this statement. It kinda sounds like it's all a lot of hot air but maybe I'm missing a few key pieces from articles and studies that actually make the above statement hold any merit whatsoever?
Just read the comments at Engadget. That is more than enough proof. If this had been MS and Intel, it would be the best thing since sliced bread. Apple is the most loved/hated company. Even more so than Microsoft.
So you state from Engadget that seems to be a anything technical site that anyone who said something negative about Lightpeak is automatically anti-Mac? Isn't that like saying if I don't like Sarah Palin I'm automatically anti-american? Do you see the fault in this logic? Granted it is the internet so cynicism breeds like a cancer and we both know there are people out there who do exist under the above criteria but above blanket statements like that is pretty much the reason I stopped arguing or even listening to Mac or PC fanatics.
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I am sure that if this didn't have Apple's involvement in it, people might be more excited. The moment "Apple" is mentioned, the PC crowd immediately dismisses it.
Could you give us some evidence of this statement. It kinda sounds like it's all a lot of hot air but maybe I'm missing a few key pieces from articles and studies that actually make the above statement hold any merit whatsoever?
Just read the comments at Engadget. That is more than enough proof. If this had been MS and Intel, it would be the best thing since sliced bread. Apple is the most loved/hated company. Even more so than Microsoft.
So you state from Engadget that seems to be a anything technical site that anyone who said something negative about Lightpeak is automatically anti-Mac? Isn't that like saying if I don't like Sarah Palin I'm automatically anti-american? Do you see the fault in this logic? Granted it is the internet so cynicism breeds like a cancer and we both know there are people out there who do exist under the above criteria but above blanket statements like that is pretty much the reason I stopped arguing or even listening to Mac or PC fanatics.
Doesn't have to be lightpeak or whatever... read the comments on anything Apple-releated at Engadget or Gizmodo. The iPhone seems to stir up the most "emotions." Again, Apple is the most loved/hated company in tech. I don't there this is much middle ground.
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My scepticism for Lightpeak is independent of my opinions of apple.
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I am sure that if this didn't have Apple's involvement in it, people might be more excited. The moment "Apple" is mentioned, the PC crowd immediately dismisses it.
Could you give us some evidence of this statement. It kinda sounds like it's all a lot of hot air but maybe I'm missing a few key pieces from articles and studies that actually make the above statement hold any merit whatsoever?
Just read the comments at Engadget. That is more than enough proof. If this had been MS and Intel, it would be the best thing since sliced bread. Apple is the most loved/hated company. Even more so than Microsoft.
Do people even hate microsoft anymore? The apple faithful i don't believe do. Because they aren't really a competitor. They own the Desktop OS market. Apple isn't trying to compete there anymore. Their OS is for their products only and that's the way it is and that's the way i like it. I hope that NEVER changes.
Honestly i don't understand all the hate for apple or any other company. They are major corporations if you don't like them don't buy their products. This goes for any company. For instance i personally can't stand Windows. But i don't start threads about how Microsoft sucks ass and Apple is so much better or whatever, like certain threads on this board in particular. And then of course the Nostradomus statements like Lightpeak will be a failure and no one will use it, etc...
I've used apple products almost exclusively since the late 90's because of love the way they work and the way they integrate all of their products. I could go into a lot more detail but that would be pointless. I'm currently in school so i can work for the damn company (as i stated in a different thread.) because i believe in the company and it's been a dream of mine to do so. But if anyone wants to use ANY other product more power to them. But to hate those other companies that you would start threads just to bash them or take the chance in any tech thread to bash them? Seems pretty pathetic to me.
I'm not a techie, so I usually don't give a shit about new technology. What I despise, though, is the way Apple markets their brand; not their product. And they're wildly successful at that, based on your reactions to this product alone.
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what do you mean based on my reaction to this product? They haven't marketed light peak. They put it on their mbpros. That's it. I've been waiting for this for years now.
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Looks like the first consumer Hd's are coming out with thunderbolt in a few weeks. I will be switching over to all thunderbolt products once i get a new mac! might be a couple years though. Mine still works fine at the moment.
https://www.macrumors.com/2011/06/24/hands-on-video-of-lacie-little-big-disk-ssd-with-thunderbolt/
Hands-On Video of LaCie Little Big Disk SSD With Thunderbolt
VIDEO IN LINK ABOVE...
Since Apple and Intel introduced the Thunderbolt high-speed connectivity standard back in February, users have been waiting for third-party manufacturers to deliver compatible peripherals taking advantage of the significant speed boost over existing mainstream interfaces.
At the Thunderbolt debut, prominent external hard drive solution provider LaCie was one of the first to commit to the new connectivity standard, noting that it was planning to release Thunderbolt-enabled versions of its Little Big Disk external hard drives.
SlashGear today posted a hands-on video with the Thunderbolt-enabled Little Big Disk, showing off an SSD-based version packing two 160 GB drives. LaCie's setup saw two such drives daisy-chained in a RAID 0 configuration with a 24-inch display tacked on at the end of the chain, all connected to a Core i7-based MacBook Pro. The drive setup was able to handle impressive read speeds of over 825 MB/sec and write speeds of over 350 MB/sec.
The first demo was a raw speed test, reading and writing to the drives with 4GB files. As you can see in the video, the MBP was able to write at up to 352.5 MB/s, while read speeds reached 827.2 MB/s. The company told us that the same setup had hit 870 MB/s peaks in their own testing.
The second test was playing back three simultaneous video files stored on the drives, each coming in at 1080p Full HD resolution. Again, as in the video, playback was stutter-free whether windowed or full-screen. We were also able to scrub back and forth through the clip - with the two others running in the background - with no lag or pauses.
SSD models of the Little Big Disk with Thunderbolt are due to ship this summer ("a question of weeks from now", according to the LaCie representative), but pricing has not yet been released. More budget-friendly models based on traditional hard drives are also in the works, although LaCie has yet to offer a release timeline for those models.
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As others have mentioned, wireless is where it's at. I think USB over wireless already exists, but it needs to become more prevalent.
rumborak
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As others have mentioned, wireless is where it's at. I think USB over wireless already exists, but it needs to become more prevalent.
rumborak
Wireless for this type of work? Maybe in 20 years. Watch the video and tell me how long you think it will be before wireless can do that. We will both probably be dead.
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I'd say it will be at most 5 years before we see a wireless solution that can do that.
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There is no way in 5 years if this technology is just coming out now for hard wire it's a long way off for wireless.
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There is no way in 5 years if this technology is just coming out now for hard wire it's a long way off for wireless.
You'd be surprised.
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I've transfered files to a HD via wireless, i stopped because using firewire 800 was much faster. Thunderbolt makes a JOkE out of firewire 800.
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There is no way in 5 years if this technology is just coming out now for hard wire it's a long way off for wireless.
In the tech world, 5 years is a long way off.
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There is no way in 5 years if this technology is just coming out now for hard wire it's a long way off for wireless.
In the tech world, 5 years is a long way off.
Exactly. Look at what Kurzweil says about the advance of technology. Not even in five years you will want today's best phone in the market.
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I know what you are saying but the wireless technology has hardly progressed at all in years, meanwhile the hard wire is progressive very fast.
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Yes, and once the wireless technology catches up with that trend, for which I believe 5 years a decent timeframe, people won't care about cables anymore. I wouldn't care if a cable offered a 10 TB/s transfer rate when I can just sync wirelessly at, say, 1 GB/s.
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Looking at the current trends it seems probable that wireless is still only going to be about 300 Mb/S in 5 years assuming a similar advancement rate to the last decade or so. Still, I maintain the max bandwidth is largely irrelevant to consumers, as their ipods and ipads won't be writing anywhere close to to maxing out those speeds.
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Looking at the current trends it seems probable that wireless is still only going to be about 300 Mb/S in 5 years assuming a similar advancement rate to the last decade or so. Still, I maintain the max bandwidth is largely irrelevant to consumers, as their ipods and ipads won't be writing anywhere close to to maxing out those speeds.
To the CLOUD!!
Internal bandwidth is irrelevant, but Netflix is going a long to proving my theory of the internet dying do to bandwidth issues.
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The internet won't die. Services might.
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Theres some funky stuff going on with nonlinear fibreoptics that has the potential to solve the bandwidth issues. Else people will just have to get used to the idea of bandwidth being a limited resource.
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The average internet user of my age can cut their bandwidth usage in half by streaming the actual music file instead of a whole youtube video to listen to a song.
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People do that?
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Everyone does it here. "Check out this song! *youtube link*". And a fair amount of people I know just have youtube playing videos (music) in some tab when on the computer.
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I'm not talking about syncing ipods. Obviously the way for that is wireless as it is in iOS. I'm talking about professional applications that need high speed and consistent transfer.
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I'm not talking about syncing ipods. Obviously the way for that is wireless as it is in iOS. I'm talking about professional applications that need high speed and consistent transfer.
Sure, wires are the way to go then. But for the other 99% of the market, wireless is where it's at.
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Well that's what were talking about! for times when you need a fast connection.
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The technology sounds great, but I won't be excited about this for awhile. It will take a long time for this to become a universal connector and not because of it's abilities, but because of price. I am a subscriber to Maximum PC magazine and they had an article last month about this. While I recently tossed the mag, I can't go back and reread, I believe it said that the cost per connector was extremely high and that not all motherboard manufacturers plan on using it yet. It's nice that intel is involved (and they put millions into research and development of lots of products that fail so that means nothing) I agree that since Apple is involved some companies may be skeptical on using their product. Also to make it useful for business purposes, entire networking infrastructures will need to be redone and landlines created to use these cables and that won't happen anytime soon since fiberoptic cables haven't replaced most of the copper infrastructure of the USA (hence the possible bandwidth issues referenced in this thread.)
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There's an interesting comment on the Wikipedia page that given that Thunderbolt is an extension of PCI, devices connected to it will have direct access to the whole RAM, which could be an issue.
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