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Title: 2011-07-09 - Loreley Amphitheater - St Goarshausen, GER (Night of the Prog Fest)
Post by: cyberdrummer on February 10, 2011, 05:55:25 PM
Rollcall:
Title: Re: 2011-07-09 - Loreley Amphitheater - St Goarshausen, GER (Night of the Prog Fest)
Post by: ich bin besser on February 26, 2011, 03:21:58 PM
ich_bin_besser  :hat

Title: Re: 2011-07-09 - Loreley Amphitheater - St Goarshausen, GER (Night of the Prog Fest)
Post by: ich bin besser on July 01, 2011, 02:04:21 PM
Wow, no one else?
Fantastic venue (here are some pics from last year: https://entertainment.webshots.com/album/578523491XVWJZI?navtype=search )!


Title: Re: 2011-07-09 - Loreley Amphitheater - St Goarshausen, GER (Night of the Prog Fest)
Post by: Elite on July 04, 2011, 03:00:46 AM
I'll be there! Really looking forward to it. Anyone else going the whole festival?
Title: Re: 2011-07-09 - Loreley Amphitheater - St Goarshausen, GER (Night of the Prog Fest)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 04, 2011, 03:03:29 AM
I'll be there! Really looking forward to it. Anyone else going the whole festival?
No.... only you :)
Just joking, I'm not, I'm waiting for Poland ;) (28th July  :metal :metal )
Title: Re: 2011-07-09 - Loreley Amphitheater - St Goarshausen, GER (Night of the Prog Fest)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 08, 2011, 09:21:36 PM
Here's the schedule for tonight's show:

Saturday 09. July 2011 Get In 11.45 h

HAKEN 12.15 h

VANDEN PLAS 13.55 h

RPWL 15.35 h

IQ 17.30 h

DREAM THEATER 20.00 h

ANATHEMA 22.30 h

End 00 h

DT before Anathema, and 2 1/2 hours. See You in the evening Guys ;) Now I have to go to work...
Title: Re: 2011-07-09 - Loreley Amphitheater - St Goarshausen, GER (Night of the Prog Fest)
Post by: Darkmeteor on July 09, 2011, 07:22:18 AM
I wanted to go there, but I'm broke cause I just spent 2k on music gears, so I'm not going  :/
Title: Re: 2011-07-09 - Loreley Amphitheater - St Goarshausen, GER (Night of the Prog Fest)
Post by: wasteland on July 09, 2011, 12:18:33 PM
Is there anyone providing information for tonight? The show was supposed to start 20 minutes ago...
Title: Re: 2011-07-09 - Loreley Amphitheater - St Goarshausen, GER (Night of the Prog Fest)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 09, 2011, 12:56:13 PM
...DOn't know, if it will be the same as yesterday I will be pissed :)
Title: Re: 2011-07-09 - Loreley Amphitheater - St Goarshausen, GER (Night of the Prog Fest)
Post by: Darkmeteor on July 09, 2011, 01:07:43 PM
Don't worry about that, yesterday they had 1 hour to play, today they have between 2 hours and 2 hours and a half

So I would expect the same setlist as the first concerts, + probably more, which is what I'm really curious about
Title: Re: 2011-07-09 - Loreley Amphitheater - St Goarshausen, GER (Night of the Prog Fest)
Post by: Spitfire on July 09, 2011, 01:24:11 PM
First post on the forums, but I have to say, I would kill to be at that prog fest. Haken, Vanden Plas and Dream Theater? For me, that's to die for!  :laugh:
Title: Re: 2011-07-09 - Loreley Amphitheater - St Goarshausen, GER (Night of the Prog Fest)
Post by: Darkmeteor on July 09, 2011, 01:39:28 PM
I just found this on twitter, there are some strange things on that pic  ;D

https://twitpic.com/5noqnp
Title: Re: 2011-07-09 - Loreley Amphitheater - St Goarshausen, GER (Night of the Prog Fest)
Post by: John94 on July 09, 2011, 01:45:38 PM
Is that a Britney Spears shirt?

LOL.

Slightly humored me while we wait for the setlist :(
Title: Re: 2011-07-09 - Loreley Amphitheater - St Goarshausen, GER (Night of the Prog Fest)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 09, 2011, 02:06:00 PM
DT and Britney  :lol :lol
Title: Re: 2011-07-09 - Loreley Amphitheater - St Goarshausen, GER (Night of the Prog Fest)
Post by: Darkmeteor on July 09, 2011, 02:12:25 PM
130 minutes since the gig started and no news nowhere, I think we can assume this is the longest gig so far
Title: Re: 2011-07-09 - Loreley Amphitheater - St Goarshausen, GER (Night of the Prog Fest)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 09, 2011, 02:13:06 PM
Hope so  ;)
Title: Re: 2011-07-09 - Loreley Amphitheater - St Goarshausen, GER (Night of the Prog Fest)
Post by: wasteland on July 09, 2011, 02:22:59 PM
130 minutes since the gig started and no news nowhere, I think we can assume this is the longest gig so far

Both Rome and Verona were about 2:05 hours long, I suppose Loreley has lasted almost the same... So, the audience has probably just been blown away by Learning To Live  ::)
Title: Re: 2011-07-09 - Loreley Amphitheater - St Goarshausen, GER (Night of the Prog F
Post by: Ben_Jamin on July 09, 2011, 02:28:05 PM
I wish a festival like this could be held in the southwest.
Title: Re: 2011-07-09 - Loreley Amphitheater - St Goarshausen, GER (Night of the Prog Fest)
Post by: John94 on July 09, 2011, 02:59:29 PM
Anyone got any news? Setlist.fm dont even have the concert created.
Title: Re: 2011-07-09 - Loreley Amphitheater - St Goarshausen, GER (Night of the Prog Fest)
Post by: Darkmeteor on July 09, 2011, 03:02:02 PM
Nope... still nothing
Title: Re: 2011-07-09 - Loreley Amphitheater - St Goarshausen, GER (Night of the Prog Fest)
Post by: FallTempest on July 09, 2011, 03:40:53 PM
Any word???
Title: Re: 2011-07-09 - Loreley Amphitheater - St Goarshausen, GER (Night of the Prog Fest)
Post by: tgstk2 on July 09, 2011, 04:17:06 PM
Maybe they didnt play as they coulndt find jmx?
Title: Re: 2011-07-09 - Loreley Amphitheater - St Goarshausen, GER (Night of the Prog Fest)
Post by: Darkmeteor on July 09, 2011, 04:21:20 PM
you can see JMX on the picture with the Britney Spears tour shirt, so they played :)
Title: Re: 2011-07-09 - Loreley Amphitheater - St Goarshausen, GER (Night of the Prog Fest)
Post by: daydr3am3r on July 09, 2011, 06:46:39 PM
OK let me step out of perma-lurk mode to give a mini review of the concert since noone else has so far:

Setlist:
(Please take this with a grain of salt, it's by memory and I don't really follow DT that much after 6DoIT)

Under a Glass Moon
These Walls
Forsaken
Endless Sacrifice
Drum Solo
Ytsejam
The Great Debate
Peruvian Skies
Caught In a Web
Through My Words
Fatal Tragedy
On The Backs of Angels

Encore:
The Count of Tuscany

Comments:
Location was gorgeous, Loreley is basically on top of a hill surrounded by a forest and fields, overlooking the Rhine river.

Sound mix was odd, at least from where I was standing. JR was oftentimes not audible at ALL (the sound engineer may had well just pressed mute on the keyboard channels for the UaGM solo), which may be a first?
MM had a good sound but the snare was shifting in volume between songs, sometimes too loud and others too low. KJL commented on him sounding weird as well. JM was OK, and thankfully JR was clear as a bell, although notably high on the mix.

Mangini did a great job on representing faithfully the songs. Minor nitpicks here and there for die hards who would've wanted the songs to be played 100% like the album versions did exist (no cowbell on CiaW for example), but overall I think he is a more accomplished performer than MP and certain parts even sounded more well defined and tight imho.

Now is it me or is the song selection somewhat odd? My buddies and I jokingly commented that maybe they decided to play songs MP wasn't that keen on playing :D

Title: Re: 2011-07-09 - Loreley Amphitheater - St Goarshausen, GER (Night of the Prog Fest)
Post by: Darkmeteor on July 09, 2011, 06:53:11 PM
Hmm maybe you're missing learning to live in the setlist ? anyway, thanks for the nice review
Title: Re: 2011-07-09 - Loreley Amphitheater - St Goarshausen, GER (Night of the Prog Fest)
Post by: daydr3am3r on July 09, 2011, 07:00:51 PM
Definitely no LtL :/ You got me thinking however whether they skipped it or not. Soundcheck took probably much longer than expected.
Title: Re: 2011-07-09 - Loreley Amphitheater - St Goarshausen, GER (Night of the Prog Fest)
Post by: Darkmeteor on July 09, 2011, 07:04:39 PM
Whoa that sucks... I would have expected at least the full set of songs since they had a 2h30 space and were the headliner  :-\

Anyway you got more songs than I did the day before  :tup
Title: Re: 2011-07-09 - Loreley Amphitheater - St Goarshausen, GER (Night of the Prog Fest)
Post by: hefdaddy42 on July 09, 2011, 08:17:02 PM
Minor nitpicks here and there for die hards who would've wanted the songs to be played 100% like the album versions did exist (no cowbell on CiaW for example)
Not sure about why nitpicks for that.  Not even MP played his drum parts live 100% like the album versions.
Title: Re: 2011-07-09 - Loreley Amphitheater - St Goarshausen, GER (Night of the Prog Fest)
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on July 09, 2011, 08:45:50 PM
I really hope Learning to Live isn't out definitely </3
Title: Re: 2011-07-09 - Loreley Amphitheater - St Goarshausen, GER (Night of the Prog Fest)
Post by: Blackfield on July 09, 2011, 09:50:51 PM
I can understand why they choose to play the same setlist each night on this leg of the tour (make it more digestable for MM), but I do hope no one went to two of the gigs (although likely). I hope they'll start to mix it up like they've done it the past on the coming legs.
Title: Re: 2011-07-09 - Loreley Amphitheater - St Goarshausen, GER (Night of the Prog Fest)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 09, 2011, 09:51:27 PM
I would want to see LTL again... @daydr3am3r Thank You for review and for setlist ;) I'm feeling weird because I probably know now setlist for DT concert in Poland, which is something new because this will be my 5th DT concert, and I was always not aware the setlist on Their concerts ...And know, I see that something really magic would have to happen to change the setlist ;)
That was a great setlist:

The Root of All Evil
Panic Attack
Another Won
A Fortune in Lies
Under a Glass Moon
Caught In A Web
Peruvian Skies
Fatal Tragedy
About To Crash (Reprise)
Losing Time/Grand Finale
As I Am
Endless Sacrifice
I Walk Beside You
Sacrificed Sons
Octavarium

Encore:
In The Name Of God

Encore 2:
The Spirit Carries On
Pull Me Under / Metropolis Pt. 1

At Poznań, Poland 4th October, Octavarium Tour
Title: Re: 2011-07-09 - Loreley Amphitheater - St Goarshausen, GER (Night of the Prog Fest)
Post by: wasteland on July 10, 2011, 01:19:47 AM
I would want to see LTL again... @daydr3am3r Thank You for review and for setlist ;) I'm feeling weird because I probably know now setlist for DT concert in Poland, which is something new because this will be my 5th DT concert, and I was always not aware the setlist on Their concerts ...And know, I see that something really magic would have to happen to change the setlist ;)
That was a great setlist:

The Root of All Evil
Panic Attack
Another Won
A Fortune in Lies
Under a Glass Moon
Caught In A Web
Peruvian Skies
Fatal Tragedy
About To Crash (Reprise)
Losing Time/Grand Finale
As I Am
Endless Sacrifice
I Walk Beside You
Sacrificed Sons
Octavarium

Encore:
In The Name Of God

Encore 2:
The Spirit Carries On
Pull Me Under / Metropolis Pt. 1

At Poznań, Poland 4th October, Octavarium Tour

Got this bootleg. Very ill sounding and incomplete. But a bootleg, still.

Anyway, I too hope LtL has not been dropped definitely... :-[
Title: Re: 2011-07-09 - Loreley Amphitheater - St Goarshausen, GER (Night of the Prog Fest)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 10, 2011, 01:40:10 AM
No videos from yesterday's show at Loreley (hard name!!!) yet.... hope we'll see something... I've made setlist on setlist.fm...so far, and waiting for some live action ;)
And about Poznań concert, that was my first DT concert, I was really  :metal :metal because of the setlist... People were just crazy, just crazy... :metal :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-09 - Loreley Amphitheater - St Goarshausen, GER (Night of the Prog Fest)
Post by: Elite on July 10, 2011, 06:01:52 AM
I was there, just came back from the trip.

Setlist was identical to the earlier shows on the tour, but Learning to Live was skipped because the soundcheck took 25 minutes longer than planned. Problems with drumkits, microphones and feedback. I'd rather have had them skip TCOT and play LtL, because I'd seen TCOT before and would have loved to see LtL, but, ah well, they played one from every album, so I guess that's good too.
Just for clarification (it's on setlist.fm as well, but is incorrect, if someone can change it, please do so):

Under a Glass Moon 
These Walls 
Forsaken 
Endless Sacrifice 
Drum Solo 
The Ytse Jam
Peruvian Skies
The Great Debate 
On the Backs of Angels 
Caught In A Web 
Through My Words 
Fatal Tragedy   
Encore:
The Count of Tuscany

Location was beautiful and sound mix was odd, indeed, bit nothing dramatic from where I was. Mangini was overwhelmed by fan's reactions as well and the audience was good (and large) and where I was standing, everybody was into the music. one of the better audiences I've had at concerts.

Endless Sacrifice blew me away as a live song, damn, what a song to play live! As did Peruvian Skies and The Great Debate. Unfortunately, the audio samples on the latter weren't very audible from where I was standing, but it was alright.

One thing that I have to say again though, is that it's really DT on autopilot, and while they played VERY well (better than the last time I saw them) their stage performance remains a bit lifeless, but I must admit, it was WAY better than the last time.

Overall a very solid performance and I had a great time!
Title: Re: 2011-07-09 - Loreley Amphitheater - St Goarshausen, GER (Night of the Prog Fest)
Post by: DreamerTV on July 10, 2011, 06:47:14 AM
Part of TCOT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmMscvxyFv0

Ytse Jam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNnjrwP8CvY

Fosaken
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYNWB-KT2GI

Mike Magini drum solo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhScqAYFAQw
Title: Re: 2011-07-09 - Loreley Amphitheater - St Goarshausen, GER (Night of the Prog Fest)
Post by: AtmosphericV on July 10, 2011, 08:01:52 AM
Ah it's so freaking annoying when James doesn't reach the notes in Forsaken..it ruins something that could've been amazing. It like if he's a half note below in the refrain..
Title: Re: 2011-07-09 - Loreley Amphitheater - St Goarshausen, GER (Night of the Prog Fest)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 10, 2011, 08:17:22 AM
Ah it's so freaking annoying when James doesn't reach the notes in Forsaken..it ruins something that could've been amazing. It like if he's a half note below in the refrain..
This ;)
Thanks for the videos DreamerTV !!! I must say that MM is better and better...  :metal :metal
Title: Re: 2011-07-09 - Loreley Amphitheater - St Goarshausen, GER (Night of the Prog Fest)
Post by: 2Timer on July 10, 2011, 09:27:48 AM
ich_bin_besser  :hat



I'm sorry to see that Moon Safari had to cancel. I wanted you to see them again this year.
I can't imagine being in a band that great and having to cancel a gig because one of the guys can't get off work. It's sad.
Title: Re: 2011-07-09 - Loreley Amphitheater - St Goarshausen, GER (Night of the Prog Fest)
Post by: ich bin besser on July 10, 2011, 12:29:00 PM
My pics from the DT gig: https://community.webshots.com/album/580513782pKOYaN
Title: Re: 2011-07-09 - Loreley Amphitheater - St Goarshausen, GER (Night of the Prog Fest)
Post by: daydr3am3r on July 10, 2011, 02:17:47 PM
Minor nitpicks here and there for die hards who would've wanted the songs to be played 100% like the album versions did exist (no cowbell on CiaW for example)
Not sure about why nitpicks for that.  Not even MP played his drum parts live 100% like the album versions.

Well, yes but judgement is always harsher for a performer than the original composer.

Having said that, he definitely has the right approach and respect for the material. God only knows how much JR has "tweaked" KM and DS solos over the years... ;)


@Elite:

Thanks for clearing the setlist up.

Title: Re: 2011-07-09 - Loreley Amphitheater - St Goarshausen, GER (Night of the Prog Fest)
Post by: daydr3am3r on July 11, 2011, 03:07:06 PM
Just ran into some great upload(s) by youtube user Altlaender1 from the concert:

TCoT:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6k2hds0N7fE
Title: Re: 2011-07-09 - Loreley Amphitheater - St Goarshausen, GER (Night of the Prog Fest)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 12, 2011, 02:08:21 PM
Just ran into some great upload(s) by youtube user Altlaender1 from the concert:

TCoT:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6k2hds0N7fE

Nice one :) Thank You :)
Title: Re: 2011-07-09 - Loreley Amphitheater - St Goarshausen, GER (Night of the Prog Fest)
Post by: 2Timer on July 12, 2011, 03:22:55 PM
Cool video, nice quality. It's cool to see how MM seems to be gelling with JP the way MP did.
Title: Re: 2011-07-09 - Loreley Amphitheater - St Goarshausen, GER (Night of the Prog Fest)
Post by: TAC on July 18, 2011, 03:43:20 PM
It's up!!
https://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=365719
Title: Re: 2011-07-09 - Loreley Amphitheater - St Goarshausen, GER (Night of the Prog Fest)
Post by: The Silent Cody on July 18, 2011, 10:19:06 PM
Thank You very much :) :metal