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General => Archive => General Music Archives => Topic started by: cthrubuoy on February 06, 2011, 01:50:42 PM
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Here we go. It's been a long time coming... but I shall now start my song roulette.
Participant list:
Jamesman
Gorille85
zxlkho
jsem
dtismajesty
AcidRainLTE
DTVT
This roulette will be 7 rounds because we have 7 players. Each round will give the winner 6 points, 2nd place 5, 3rd - 4, 4th, 3, 5th - 2, 6th - 1, and 7th - 0 (I'm hoping the zero score for last place will push people that little extra for something a little better.)
Submissions to be made within 4 days of the round being put up. I wont be too strict on this though. Send me a PM if you're busy, know you can't access the internet for a while or whatever.If I get chance tomorrow, I'll type up all the rounds and update the OP to give you an idea of what's to come and you could even send in advance.
Songs will be rated on adherence to the rounds criteria, and personal taste as usual.
My last.fm for reference is:
https://www.last.fm/user/cthrubuoy
No artists to be submitted that have 100 or more plays on this last.fm
So what am I looking for in this roulette? I've been stuck in a bit of a musical rut the past few months. Listening to the same songs by the same bands again and again. Hopefully this will expand my music horizons to new bands, genres and whatever else you may bring to the table.
My taste in music has varied dramatically over the last few years, but a few key factors have remained.
Guitars are an important part of the music I listen to. As I guitarist myself, this is what I listen out for in a song (the first few listens at least).
I'm also a massive fan of drumming. I could watch virtuoso drummers all day and night. It isn't a necessity for a song to include this, but the occasional OMG WOW fill wouldn't go amiss.
Copied word for word from ariich's roulette...
Submissions should, ideally, be Grooveshark or Spotify links (if you don't know how to use either, PM me and I can explain), but youtube links are also ok. Again, ideally these should be official links so that I can post them in the results posts, but if the only thing you can find is an unofficial link, that's fine, I just wont' be able to post it publicly.
So lets let round 1 begin. As usual... open submissions.
Update:
To give you more time to decide, here are the round themes in advance. Please don't send until the round itself opens though.
Round 2 - Dynamics - Make of that what you will.
Round 3 - Instrumental - As it says on the tin
Round 4 - Funky - Doesn't have to be 'Funk', just something with a nice groove maybe? Or a song that has a funky section? A great example could be that section in the Lotus Eater by Opeth.
Round 5 - Deviating from the norm - Again, completely open to interpretation but I'm looking for something outside the box, different, something fresh.
Round 6 - Epic - This could be song length, content, lyrical theme, etc.
Round 7 - Make me cry - As this is the last round, I want you to send a song to depress me. Scores will be based on number of tissues needed (INB4 the obvious)
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Awesome, looking forward to following this one. :)
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Cool. It seems your quite knowledgeable in metal, (:metal) so I'm going to try sending some other genres. Hmm, what to start with..
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Sent
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Any length restrictions.. or more importantly, do you plan on having a round for a long epic? :D
Edit: Send. Saving lengthy songs for other situations.
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Sent. I heard you like drumming, so.. :tup
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Sent
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I'll send something tomorrow. :tup So many choices...
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Sent!
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Any length restrictions.. or more importantly, do you plan on having a round for a long epic? :D
Edit: Send. Saving lengthy songs for other situations.
As you mentioned it, yes, there'll probably be a round for epics/lengthy songs.
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Updated the OP with round themes.
To give you more time to decide, here are the round themes in advance. Please don't send until the round itself opens though.
Round 2 - Dynamics - Make of that what you will.
Round 3 - Instrumental - As it says on the tin
Round 4 - Funky - Doesn't have to be 'Funk', just something with a nice groove maybe? Or a song that has a funky section? A great example could be that section in the Lotus Eater by Opeth.
Round 5 - Deviating from the norm - Again, completely open to interpretation but I'm looking for something outside the box, different, something fresh.
Round 6 - Epic - This could be song length, content, lyrical theme, etc.
Round 7 - Make me cry - As this is the last round, I want you to send a song to depress me. Scores will be based on number of tissues needed (INB4 the obvious)
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I'll try to get mine sent out when I get home. I need to look at his last.fm before I send anything.
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Sent. I'm very confident with my pick.
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Mine is hit, miss or inbetween. I have NO idea.
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Bump :police:
All the submissions in yet?
I feel pretty good about mine, but my arrogance could be my downfall, so I'll shut up until I see it.
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I'm really excited to see what he says about my song. It was a risky choice to say the least.
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Sorry...I've had a rough past two days. What's your position on things you have on last.fm, but have few listens or from albums artists you have listed but not from an album you have heard. Lots of bands with very few listens...I hope they aren't out of play.
I'll have a top choice and a back-up ready tomorrow depending on how you respond.
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Sorry...I've had a rough past two days. What's your position on things you have on last.fm, but have few listens or from albums artists you have listed but not from an album you have heard. Lots of bands with very few listens...I hope they aren't out of play.
I'll have a top choice and a back-up ready tomorrow depending on how you respond.
Last.fm has scrobbled pretty much everything I've listened to in the last few years. If it's not on there, chances are I've never heard it.
Few listens doesn't necessarily mean I didn't like the artist, more that I haven't given them a real chance.
Send whatever you want to send!
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It'd be good if you posted like a banned artists thingy.
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I would have said something like 'no artists with x or more listens on last.fm', just pick what the threshold should be. Something like 10 or 15 maybe.
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No artists with 100 or more plays then. Looking through my last.fm list and that seems like a nice cut off point.
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Woah, that's a pretty high number! :lol
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I just made a list of 30-35 bands that I'm pretty sure you'll like! :tup
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Sent. I have ideas what of what I'm sending in other rounds. I tried going with something unlike anything you had on last.fm, rather than taking a band you obviously like and picking something similar.
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All submissions are in! I've listened to 5 out of the 7, so I'll listen to the other 2 tonight and hopefully get some results up for tomorrow. Hopefully.
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Didn't manage to get this sorted last night, got admitted to hospital. Lol. Hoping to get discharged in the next few hours so results should be up tonight! (if they're not, blame the NHS)
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Hospital? What for? Better be a good reason.
Kidding, hope you're well mang, we're all patient.
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Lol... "Patient"
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:neverusethis:
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Oh my God, I didn't mean for that pun. :lol
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:Lol
Ok so even I'm completely fine, I'm not allowed to leave tonight. Results tomorrow
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get well
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You shouldn't get sick. It's not fun.
Also, it slows down the roulette :neverusethis:
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Chill, he was in the hospital for Joseph Smith's sake.
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NOT an excuse.
Roulettes are serious business, yo.
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Especially if it's a russian one.
:neverusethis:
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Especially if it's a russian one.
:neverusethis:
Just make sure Wrath is playing.
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You're alright?
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Ummmm....
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I am now out of hospital! Not dead, don't worry.
Starting write-ups now.
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I am now out of hospital! Not dead, don't worry.
Starting write-ups now.
Awesome. Glad you're okay man. :tup
Looking forward to the writeups!
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Fastest write-ups in the West to get this back on track.
Apologies for the delay, but Quinsy is pretty nasty
Jamesman - Future of Forestry - So Close, So Far
https://listen.grooveshark.com/s/So+Close+So+Far/2HkqXY?src=5
I'd definately agree with very catchy and very fun on this song. I really liked that clap/drum intro kicking the song off. When the bass started in it reminded me a bit of Tool (don't read too much into this. I think it was just the bass sound, who knows?), but then when the guitar and vocals joined in it reminded me of Muse. I love both those bands so I think that's why this clicked instantly with me.
That chorus was really 'nice', an uplifting melody and some catchy lyrics to match. I'd be interested in checking out more songs by this artist as I've listened to this one a good few times and still not been bored by it.
6 Points
Gorille85 - Gojira - Vacuity
https://listen.grooveshark.com/s/Vacuity/1TQDbH?src=5
Gojira is a band I've heard a lot about but never listened to.
I liked the sound of the intro when the song started, it's a really nice pounding metal sound guarunteed to get the head moving. The singing put me off slightly, especially the chorus but but the music made up for it in no time at all.
When the song kicked in towards the end, I really got into the groove. That section at 3:14 is one of the reasons this went from 3rd to 2nd from my initial rankings.
5 points
dtismajesty - Intronaut - Above
https://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Above/3hfvPE?src=5
This one started off with some really nice drumming and atmospheric guitar/vocals. It was a little bit generic but that didn't seem to put me off. It sounded like it was going to go heavy very early on in the song and I'm quite glad it didnt, it built up a lot of that atmosphere I mentioned, and it was nice to hear some interesting drumming to simpler sections of music for a change.
When it did eventually go heavier it got slighly repetetive, becoming one of the reasons that it swapped out with the 2nd place song.
4 points
DTVT - Slough Feg - Hardworlder
(No Grooveshark Link)
When you said folk metal I got really excited. The song didn't quite live up to my expectations, but was very enjoyable none-the-less.
It sounded like Iron Maiden had smoked pot for a bit too long, and I'm not an Iron Maiden fan unfortunately. (Pot on the other hand...)
Some sections were very nice. The 3:00 harmonising guitar section reminded me a bit of Thin Lizzy, and the guitar/vocal melodies at 2:00 I really enjoyed. This was much more of a grower though and took 3/4 listens to really get in to.
3 points
AcidRainLTE - Textures - Awake
https://listen.grooveshark.com/s/Awake/2C4zv2?src=5
At first this sounded a bit like Nu-Metal attempt at a ballad, a kind of 'Killswitch Engage post-"End of Heartache" attempt at being all sentimental'. I really wasn't very impressed until 2:07, when it went heavy. It was a little bit too 'hardcore' for me but it did grow on me towards the end. It seemed like the atmosphere wasn't created until after that heavy section even though they were playing alomost the same things as in the first section of the song. I can't quite put my finger on it. Overall not a bad effort though.
2 points
jsem - Dave Brubeck - Blue Rondo a la Turk
https://listen.grooveshark.com/s/Blue+Rondo+A+La+Turk/2D4s4o?src=5
I've never really listened to jazz before so I didn't know what to expect when listening to this. I didn't quite get it I don't think. There were some nice musical ideas going but the song itself didn't seem to go anywhere.
It ended up dragging on a bit unfortunately which is why I've placed it so low in the rankings.
1 point
zxlkho - Neurosis - Eye
https://listen.grooveshark.com/s/Eye/3x4EtK?src=5
Where to start? This song sounded a bit like how I felt in hospital. Agony, pain... and that's not a good thing.
I thought maybe it would pick up into something listenable but it didn't.
Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of heavy, and some extremely heavy bands (Necrophagist to name one) but this didn't grip me at all. In fact, it's the only of the 7 entries I actually wanted to turn off.
Letters, you spoke of good riffs in the message you sent but I think maybe we were listeneing to different songs.
I'm a little bit disappointed because I think you're my highest match on last.fm compatibility. Maybe next time eh?
0 points
Standings:
Jamesman - 6
Gorille85 - 5
dtismajesty - 4
DTVT - 3
AcidRainLTE - 2
jsem - 1
zxlkho - 0
So, on Round 2 - Dynamics. I promise not to fall ill before posting the results of this round.
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Neurosis is a fantastic band, but their a band that takes lots and lots of time to get into. I would probably not rate them very high either my first time.
Glad you liked Intronaut, though.
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Question: is there a length limit for the songs?
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I'm not going to impose a length limit, but I'd prefer you to keep that 1:45:20 song for the epic round :neverusethis:
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Apologies for the delay, but Quinsy is pretty nasty
Please translate from British English to American English. People don't get "Quinsy" here.
And damn you dtismajesty...I was planning on sending Intronaut later. I find it interesting that I would have sent different Intronaut and Gojira songs from the same album. Guess it just shows that those are might fine albums.
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I'm glad you liked my song! :tup Weird that you didn't like the vocals though...
Anyhoo, I'll send my song in a minute! :tup
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I find it interesting that I would have sent different Intronaut and Gojira songs from the same album. Guess it just shows that those are might fine albums.
It was really hard choosing only one Gojira track!
EDIT: Song sent! :tup Still very confident :)
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I'm very busy the next few days, but I'm gonna try and send the song tonight. For speed, someone can pm me and remind me to do it tonight. ;)
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Sent. Not at ALL confident. I'm still trying to figure out if this man will listen to anything besides rock.
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Apologies for the delay, but Quinsy is pretty nasty
Please translate from British English to American English. People don't get "Quinsy" here.
Peritonsillar abscess
My apologies.
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I'm glad you liked my song! :tup Weird that you didn't like the vocals though...
Anyhoo, I'll send my song in a minute! :tup
I think they may grow on me as I listen to more of the band. Well I hope so anyway
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Sent. Not at ALL confident. I'm still trying to figure out if this man will listen to anything besides rock.
I will, I will! I'm open to all suggestions. That's the whole point of this roulette, so I can expand my musical horizons. That could be by finding new artists in genres I like, or new genres entirely.
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I'm glad you liked my song! :tup Weird that you didn't like the vocals though...
Anyhoo, I'll send my song in a minute! :tup
I think they may grow on me as I listen to more of the band. Well I hope so anyway
Probably! Joe is maybe the best harsh vocalist in metal, IMO.
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I'm glad you liked my song! :tup Weird that you didn't like the vocals though...
Anyhoo, I'll send my song in a minute! :tup
I think they may grow on me as I listen to more of the band. Well I hope so anyway
Probably! Joe is maybe the best harsh vocalist in metal, IMO.
Mikael Åkerfeldt would like a word
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Mikael Åkerfeldt would like a word
Mikael is up there too and a better singer overall but I feel like Joe's harsh vocals are more diverse and effective. :metal
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Sending soon probably. I don't like ambiguous rounds...its too open to interpretation. Sad is easy to figure out...cool solos, riffs, fills, time era, and other concrete definitions are easy to deal with. I'm not quite sure what to do with this round.
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Sent. I am very confident in my choice for some reason. And it gave me a reason to listen to it, such an awesome song.
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Sending soon probably. I don't like ambiguous rounds...its too open to interpretation. Sad is easy to figure out...cool solos, riffs, fills, time era, and other concrete definitions are easy to deal with. I'm not quite sure what to do with this round.
He said "make what you want of it". I had the same problem....
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Sending soon probably. I don't like ambiguous rounds...its too open to interpretation. Sad is easy to figure out...cool solos, riffs, fills, time era, and other concrete definitions are easy to deal with. I'm not quite sure what to do with this round.
By dynamics I'm fairly sure he just means something that displays a range of dynamics, and does it well.
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Sending soon probably. I don't like ambiguous rounds...its too open to interpretation. Sad is easy to figure out...cool solos, riffs, fills, time era, and other concrete definitions are easy to deal with. I'm not quite sure what to do with this round.
By dynamics I'm fairly sure he just means something that displays a range of dynamics, and does it well.
Yeh, this. It's open to interpretation so that I get as varied a response as possible.
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Then, my pick was excellent.
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I look forward to listening to it.
Waiting on 2 more picks.
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I think dtismajesty will rage at my song selection... :lol
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I think dtismajesty will rage at my song selection... :lol
This interests me.
Are they all in now?
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Not quite. I'll PM them to get a move on
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All in now. Listening tonight. Hope to get results up by tomorrow!
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:tup
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(https://www.gamexchanger.co.uk/images/B0002GX9IM/main.jpg)
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:lol
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It's coming... it's coming...
Sorry. Write-ups taking longer than I initially thought
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I suck at sticking to deadlines. I'm staying online now though until it's done. Some really great picks this round!
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I suck at sticking to deadlines.
You're right about that. :lol
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Overall, this was a much tighter round than the first. I had to spend a good amount of time deciding which tracks I liked more to sort out the points awarded. Even the 7th placed song I liked to a certain degree.
DTVT - Enslaved - Waruun
https://listen.grooveshark.com/s/Waruun/3u7wjG?src=5
I didn't think I'd like this song when it started. I've never really listened to much Black metal and I was worried it would be a bit too 'evil' for me, especially with a band name like 'Enslaved'. Luckily, my preconceptions were way off.
I really liked the staccato disharmonic chord as you put it. The growling didn't put me off either, as it doesn't in most bands of a similar genre. I think this my be due to the fact that there was clean vocals mixed in as well. I thought it worked really well. I also really enjoyed the simple but effective outro. I can definitely see myself listening to more of these in the future.
6 points
dtismajesty - Demians - Hesitation Waltz
https://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Hesitation+Waltz/2Uc84G?src=5
Two submissions of the same band in the same round? Interesting. I much preferred this to letters' choice. I felt this had a lot more atmosphere going for it. I really liked the way that it built up all the way through the song. In a way (a very strange way that maybe no one else will see) it reminded of the build up in Wing for Marie by Tool (please tell me someone else sees this?). Also, the vocal pop rock issues I had with the song letter sent me were not even remotely an issue. I'm a bit unsure as to what to make of the band after hearing two entirely different sides to them. I hope the rest of their discography is more sided with this track though.
5 points
jsem - Antonio Vivaldi - Four Seasons, Winter, 1st mvt
https://open.spotify.com/track/3mZ3LhX72yZO4Q1vOk6bKy
Out of all the tracks sent this round, this is the only one I'd heard before. I accepted it as a submission though because I'm not particularly familiar with it, having only heard it a very small number of times.
Classical music can take dynamics to a new level, and I think this was an excellent example of that. I really liked the violin, which may be because I used to play myself (although not anywhere near this level).
The melodies were outstanding in this piece, and obviously the dynamics worked in its favour as well. But even considering all this, I still couldn't find it in myself to place it at the top.
4 points
Jamesman - Superior - Not With Me
https://listen.grooveshark.com/s/Not+With+Me/ggRjT?src=5
Probably the most interesting guitars of this rounds submissions. As a guitarist, that immediately pushed it up in my rankings. I also liked the main up-tempo riff. You mentioned that it was initially labelled as a DT track? I didn't see that resemblance at all. So whoever decided to label it as such obviously hadn't heard either band.
Really enjoyed that cool little bass part about halfway through the song. Gave it an interesting extra dimension.
3 points
AcidRainLTE - Devin Townsend - Life is all Dynamics
https://open.spotify.com/track/4s2AjjkSTDwBi6OCnQUxgf
I've heard a few songs by Devin before. Numbers tried to get me to listen to his stuff, I wasn't too impressed with what I heard. Then one of my friends showed me a different album, and I really enjoyed it. His music is a bit hit and miss with me, much like the sections of this song. I'm not really a fan of the verse with the light and airy background vocals, but I do like the wall of sound chorus type section. He creates some really great atmosphere, and an epic sound that I haven't heard anyone else replicate. This was originally tied in its position, but I pushed this up for for including 'dynamics' in the song title. Nice touch.
2 points
zxlkho - Demians - Naive
https://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Naive/2v1YOD?src=5
I'd never even heard of this band when you sent me the link. I was honestly crossing my fingers that it wasn't similar to your last track :P
The song starts well with a nice acoustic intro, and then slams you in the face with the distorted guitar, then back to the acoustic guitar for the verse. The riffs over the verses were pretty cool as well. The only real problem I had with this song was the pop rock vocals. I apologize if that's offensive, but it was a bit too 'Creed' for me. Not a bad song by any stretch of the imagination, but not the best of the round. Also, there wasn't much substance to the song; Verse Chorus repeat. I would have liked to have heard at least a bridge section to fill it out a bit. Maybe that's the prog fan coming out in me?
1 point
Gorille85 - dredg - Bug Eyes
https://listen.grooveshark.com/#/search?q=dredg%20bug%20eyes
A band I've heard a lot about but never had the time nor inclination to listen to. This song didn't cement a need to listen to them any more than putting me off listening to them. I quite enjoyed it but unlike some of the others, it didn't quite click. I think that with time, and possibly some of their other tracks, I'd enjoy this style of music a lot more though. Plus points were the atmospheric guitars throughout.
0 points
I'd just like to emphasise that even 7th place I liked to a certain degree. There weren't any complete disasters like the first round (not mentioning any names, letters :neverusethis: ).
Results after round 2:
dtismajesty - 9
DTVT - 9
Jamesman - 9
jsem - 5
Gorille85 - 5
AcidRainLTE - 4
zxlkho - 1
As you may have noticed, and as stated above, I'm sucking at these deadlines. I'll try and be as quick as possible putting up the results but I've been having some issues getting to a PC that I can listen to the submissions on. This round I downloaded the grooveshark Android app so I could listen while away from my PC to get things sped up a bit. If all submissions are in tomorrow, I should be fine getting the results up on the weekend, but if not (and I honestly don't expect everyone to send me their submission in one day), there may be a few days delay getting the results to you. Just to warn you in advance.
So on to round 3! Instrumental. Pretty obvious here that I'm asking for an instrumental track. It's not genre specific so don't feel it needs to be a Dream Theater type instrumental.
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I think dtismajesty will rage at my song selection... :lol
Naw, you sent Demians. I could never rage over anything related to Demians.
Also, glad you liked mine Cthru!
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I didn't know it was possible to dislike Bug Eyes.
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I didn't know it was possible to dislike Bug Eyes.
THIS
EDIT: Sent.
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Glad you liked Enslaved. Like I said, Enslaved and Agalloch both really broke down my misconceptions about black metal.
Also, for clarification: Jamesman sent the song "Not With Me" by the band Superior, and it is from the album Younique...in case anyone was looking for it.
Also, sent. I've had this one in mind for a while.
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cthrubuoy, give Bug Eyes another go or 2. But I'd also check out a few other dredg songs before fully forming any opinion about them. "Quotes" "The Canyon Behind Her" and "Yatahaze" are a few good ones.
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I'm going to go easy on cthru for not gushing over dredg. I actually considered sending Bug Eyes as well, except that his last.fm listings made me think it wasn't exactly his thing.
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but dredg is everybody's thing!
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I did say that I liked 7th place (dredg) as well. First time round listening to them they placed a lot higher, but a second listen didn't sit as well with me. I will try them out again though, as I will with the majority of submissions in this roulette.
Also, for clarification: Jamesman sent the song "Not With Me" by the band Superior, and it is from the album Younique...in case anyone was looking for it.
Fixed.
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Since you asked, Demians' first album, "Building an Empire" is closer to the song Letters sent, and the one I sent is closer to the content on "Mute".
But if you had issues with the "rock pop vocals" you won't find that in many of their songs at all, so that's not to worry.
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Also, for clarification: Jamesman sent the song "Not With Me" by the band Superior, and it is from the album Younique...in case anyone was looking for it.
My bad.
I'm hoping to send a song today or tomorrow.
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Not necessarily your fault Jamesman, as a matter of fact grooveshark has the band name for the song I sent wrong.
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Any length requirements?
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Not necessarily your fault Jamesman, as a matter of fact grooveshark has the band name for the song I sent wrong.
Yeah but after the amount of time I've known the song and had people correct me...I should know by now! :lol
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Any length requirements?
I'm sure there's some sort of penis joke here, but I'm too tired to think of it.
Regarding track length though, No, not really. I don't want a 54 minute masterpiece though.
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Ok. But when it's time for the crying theme... I might have to send one of those.. lol
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I don't want a 54 minute masterpiece though.
Ok, I'll send a mediocre 54 minute song.
Edit: I'm actually wondering. Do you think you could enjoy well done electronic/trance music? Just a question..
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I like some electronic music. Boards of Canada spring to mind. Don't mind some Aphex twin as well. I haven't really heard too much to make a comment on whether I'm a massive fan though
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OK, so I'm going to go with a risk now...
EDIT: Sent.
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Regarding track length though, No, not really. I don't want a 54 minute masterpiece though.
In my Epics round, DTVT threatened to send me a song that was four days in length. :|
I don't want a 54 minute masterpiece though.
Ok, I'll send a mediocre 54 minute song.
:lol
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Regarding track length though, No, not really. I don't want a 54 minute masterpiece though.
In my Epics round, DTVT threatened to send me a song that was four days in length. :|.
What kind of a song is that? Hahahahhahahahahahah
Anyway, I sent yesterday.
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There is an ambient band out there that does songs that are several months long.
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There is an ambient band out there that does songs that are several months long.
LOL. Where can I buy their albums?
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I doubt any "ambient" song that's that long is just a whole lot of repeating the same things.
That's just obnoxious...
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So has everybody sent yet?
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No. I'm conflicted between sending something completely out of left field and sending something that I'm much more certain he will like.
Hmmmmm
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I had the same dilemma in BrotherH's roulette. I ended up sending what I liked best, what was most tossup - and I ended up losing my entire wager...
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There is an ambient band out there that does songs that are several months long.
LOL. Where can I buy their albums?
https://www.bullofheaven.com/
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Have I sent? I've been busy and I sort of forgot if I did or not..
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Have I sent? I've been busy and I sort of forgot if I did or not..
Not yet no.
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Are all submissions in yet?
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Not yet. I've chased the 1 outstanding.
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That person fails, and should get a zero.
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I'm beginning to get a bit impatient.
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I see you here Cthru...you better be posting results, or posting incriminating pictures of the person who is slowing this train down.
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Is everyone in NOW?
It's been well over a week, I sure hope so!
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Serioulsy, this is taking too long.
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I apologise for the delay, but I was waiting for a submission for longer than expected. On top of that, my PC has died. I'm formatting it tonight, so with some luck I'll have it fully working again by tomorrow. There's not really much I can do about it at the moment so I'll update as soon as possible.
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Just to be clear, this roulette does still... exist, doesn't it?
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Should we resume this at another date later into the year? Sucks to hear that cthru
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I concur if he can't get up and running within a couple of days. Just move cthru to next in line, and let the next person go, and we can resume when someone else finishes.
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I'm going to have to agree. PC is still out of action and I have very limited internet access anywhere else. On Hold until a later date unfortunately.