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Dream Theater => Dream Theater => Topic started by: TheVoxyn on January 12, 2011, 10:59:52 AM
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I hardly ever check this section, but I was bored and read some threads. I saw in the 'Most favourite of least favourite' thread that a lot of people chose Disappear as worst song from Six Degrees and some people also ranked it pretty low. This suprised me a bit, as it's an awesome song.
Pretty much the only song by DT that I still listen to on regular basis and the only song in DT's catologue that is pretty emotional (for me at least).
*appreciates*
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Absolutely love this song. The lyrics are really powerful and the music itself has this eerie yet sorrowful feel to it. It has a more personal meaning to me too, so that's probably why I appreciate it so much. It takes me back to a time when I wanted to "disappear", as cliche or lame as that sounds. :-\
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Easily one of my top 5 DT songs. I hardly listen to it though because it actually makes me too sad. I like to save it for special occasions.
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I appreciate Disappear, its awesome on L@B, would have been even better with the Octavarium Orchestra.
I am wondering however, how long is it going to be before there is an appreciation thread for every song.
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If every song on an album is awesome, then even a great track will be ranked last. Somebody has to be last.
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Easily my favorite ex poster. I will continue to miss him.
Oh the song. Its ok. The arps ruin it a bit for me.
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Love this song. It's probably the only Dream Theater song that has ever emotionally moved me to tears, a feat that has yet to be repeated since then.
I also love the fact that, of the two times it was ever played live, both have been released! Can't say that about any other Dream Theater song (every live version of a song being released by the band, that is).
-Marc.
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One of my all time favorite DT songs.
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Pretty cool song. I got to see it debuted live.
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One of my all time favorite DT songs.
Mine too. It's just perfect. :)
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Top 5 all time for me as well...it's incredibly beautiful and I've always loved the strange intro and outro (strangely reminded me of Max Payne; perhaps I played the game and heard SDOIT around the same time).
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I always enjoyed this song but found that the Budokan version really hit me. Don't know why but there is more emotion in the live version for me.
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The mood this song sets up is amazing.
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I Bought Six Degrees right after my grandfather passed. I bought a lot of music then, I guess it was part of the grieving process for me. I'd borrowed it from a friend and listened to it several times before this, I never really payed much attention to Disappear.
But then I heard it again that day. I believe it was actually the day he passed. And the lyrics were so similar to what happened. Particularly the last stanza/verse. I still have trouble listening to it without getting all choked up. We had to put my dog just a few days ago under similar circumstances and Disappear hits me all the harder now.
Amazing song.
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there are very few songs these days when musicians/bands tap into something completely beautiful and unique. and although this song can be likened to bands like radiohead (maybe), its dream theaters best song and the one i beleive the "music gods" where with them.
APPRECIATE!!!! :yarr
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Awesome song, one of my favorites.
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Easily the best song on SDOIT.
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Beautiful song, love it.... :heart.....JLB need to write more lyrics like this and music needs to be created as unique as this.
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Honestly, I love the studio version, but the live version is just terrible. Sure, its the same song and arrangement, but playing it faster just kills the mood for me. I can't listen to it.
Does anyone know why they played it faster live? Time reasons?
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I also love the fact that, of the two times it was ever played live, both have been released!
Where was the NY version released? I have the boot of the show, but I don't remember it actually being released anywhere.
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I also love the fact that, of the two times it was ever played live, both have been released!
Where was the NY version released? I have the boot of the show, but I don't remember it actually being released anywhere.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Sort_of_Homecoming_(album) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Sort_of_Homecoming_(album))
-Marc.
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I have this whole mini-movie that plays in my head when I listen to this song. There are flashback scenes in a park during summer of James walking with a woman, then "current day" images that are James walking alone in the same park during Autumn, interspersed with scenes of them with the woman in a hospital bed.
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I also love the fact that, of the two times it was ever played live, both have been released!
Where was the NY version released? I have the boot of the show, but I don't remember it actually being released anywhere.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Sort_of_Homecoming_(album) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Sort_of_Homecoming_(album))
-Marc.
Thanks Marc, you know after I posted, I thought it might be that.
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Superb song. Probably their most emotional song, too. *appreciates*
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DT's best song whitout a doubt! :tup
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I always listen to Disappear before listening to Six Degrees, the combination is nothing short of spectacular and has some of DT's best melodies IMO.
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:tup appreciates..
Definitely one of James' most amazing vocal performance
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Honestly, I love the studio version, but the live version is just terrible. Sure, its the same song and arrangement, but playing it faster just kills the mood for me. I can't listen to it.
Does anyone know why they played it faster live? Time reasons?
According to MP, Jordan set the tempo.
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I enjoy this song quite a bit. Clearly not the worst on the album as that would be The Great Debate. Not the best either as that is Blind Faith.
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contrary to what most people say about the live version i prefer it.
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It really does kill the mood of the song. Its one of those songs were tempo matters.
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Funny, I listened to 6 Degrees driving home yesterday, which I rarely do, and thoroughly enjoyed Disappear. Enough that I listened to it twice. Good tune.
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Great song. Also great to play on the acoustic.
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My favorite part of it it's the: "So I'm moving on, I'll never forget as you laid there and watched me..." segment. What an amazing, great, sentimental song.
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The only really emotional DT-song i'd say, and the only DT-song i still listen to every now and then.
Hands down my favorite song by the band, and i don't think they will ever top it.
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A really emotionally powerful song, and the best lyrics JLB has ever written. More songs like these, please.
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Simple, beautiful lyrics... the song has great emotion. I wish labrie contributed more lyrics and your average listener could listen and connect with them.
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The only really emotional DT-song i'd say,
That is absolutely false.
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The only really emotional DT-song i'd say,
That is absolutely false.
What else would you say?
Don't give me 'The Best of Times' please. :P
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SDV, Vacant, You Not Me.
Good emotional songs there.
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TSCO
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TSCO
That's not emotionally charged at all, it just has all of the musical cliches of it.
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Also, arguably Scarred.
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Well I find it to be emotional.
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The only really emotional DT-song i'd say,
That is absolutely false.
What else would you say?
Don't give me 'The Best of Times' please. :P
Oh god no. I'm not particularly fond of the lyrics to TBOT regardless of the circumstances in which they were written.
"Space Dye Vest" is easily the most emotional sonng written under the Dream Theater name. Its simply unmatched in terms of emotional atmosphere and construction.
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Well I find it to be emotional.
It's about reincarnation and not being scared of death. It's written from a characters point of view, what's the emotion? It just has cliche melodies/chord changes and solos with lots of high bends.
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Don't give me 'The Best of Times' please. :P
Well, if TBOT ain't emotional, I don't know what is.
Also, how about The Ministry of lost souls?
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Don't give me 'The Best of Times' please. :P
Well, if TBOT ain't emotional, I don't know what is.
Also, how about The Ministry of lost souls?
No to both.
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Pretty much every song is emotional in some manner, ya know. Sadness is not the only emotion, ya know. ;)
For example, "The Count of Tuscany" is very emotional, considering that fear is a very powerful emotion.
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Emotionally charged is different than just singing about an emotion.
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That is fine, but considering what "The Best of Times" is about - sadness, one of the most powerful emotions in the world - you can't tell me that that song isn't every emotional. If you don't connect with it, that is fine, but at its core, it is a very emotional song. The sadness of the lyrics and subject matter is conveyed well in the music, especially during both the intro and the second half of the song.
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To be honest, I can get behind the argument for TBOT.
TSCO, and TMOLS however, I can not. Being filled with musical cliches isn't enough.
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I'm very surprised with the posts saying this is there all time FAVORITE song by DT. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but are you absolutely sure there's no other DT song you like more?
As for my thoughts on the song, I really like it and it definitely earns my appreciation. Amazing lyrics, and as someone mentioned earlier it has that eerie sound that makes it very unique.
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It's not really a tough decision for me to put this as my favorite DT-song, because even if i made a top10, nr2 would still be a division under it.
It's like, my music-taste has changed ever since i was 'heavily into DT', but even though i'm not that into 'classic' progressive-music anymore, Disappear is still a song i love, because it's so emotional.
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I'm very surprised with the posts saying this is there all time FAVORITE song by DT. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but are you absolutely sure there's no other DT song you like more?
Why would you think they would say something like that and not be sure?
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It's my least fave song off the album, but then it is a very good album. Not a bad song by any means.
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Is it odd that I like this song more then Six Degrees?
(Also, I didn't see a rule about reviving threads, so sorry if it's not okay...)
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Is it odd that I like this song more then Six Degrees?
No, it isn't.
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Creeps the shit out of me.
In a GOOD way.
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Is it odd that I like this song more then Six Degrees?
(Also, I didn't see a rule about reviving threads, so sorry if it's not okay...)
It's very ok when you have something to add to what has been said, and you do. :tup
By the way, I very much agree with you!
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Is it odd that I like this song more then Six Degrees?
(Also, I didn't see a rule about reviving threads, so sorry if it's not okay...)
It's very ok when you have something to add to what has been said, and you do. :tup
By the way, I very much agree with you!
Okay, I was just making sure, cause some forums I've been on don't allow you to revive old threads.
I love Six Degrees, don't get me wrong, but Disappear is simply amazing.
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Good song and I've learned to appreciate it over time, but it is still my least favorite on the album. That's saying a lot too cause it's on my favorite DT album.
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Creeps the shit out of me.
In a GOOD way.
It makes the listener want to cry, which is pretty incredible. It works so well in context of any Dream Theater music (much like most of their "ballads") because the simplicity only works (but works very well) in contrast with the rest. If this song had no context, it might not mean so incredibly much.
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Listened to it for the first time in a while yesterday. The song is almost like a challenge to hold on until the emotion takes over. Really incredible.
Let's appreciate this gem!
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I'm actually shocked that I haven't posted in this thread before.
I absolutely adore the guitar and keyboard intro. The tone and composition give a slightly deranged quality to ever present sadness. Of course, this is one of the greatest performances by JLB. Ever!
Some days, this is my favorite DT song. I often find myself craving to hear it.
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Listened to it for the first time in a while yesterday. The song is almost like a challenge to hold on until the emotion takes over. Really incredible.
Let's appreciate this gem!
Appreciate. A lot! This song is incredible. I almost cry when the song reaches the "Let him come take you home".
B.Lee
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It is fantastic, definitely the unsung hero of 6DOIT.
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I love simple and emotional songs dt does. This one in particular. I love most JLB lyrics so much.
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It is a masterpiece in that it captures the feeling of being in the deathbed of a loved one. It evokes suc memories for me everytime I hear it.
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Probably the saddest DT song, also one of their best.
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It is a masterpiece in that it captures the feeling of being in the deathbed of a loved one. It evokes suc memories for me everytime I hear it.
Yeah, I always think of my grandmother when I hear it. It's an amazing track.
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An amazing and unique DT song, as most of SDOIT is. Because it's a slow build song, it took forever for this song to click for me, but once it hits that modulation and the drums come in, THE FEELS.
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Wait, why do we have two Disappear threads on the first page? I'm confused. :|
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Wait, why do we have two Disappear threads on the first page? I'm confused. :|
It's that good.
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Wait, why do we have two Disappear threads on the first page? I'm confused. :|
It's like those buses, you know? You wait for them to arrive for hours and then two of the arrive within a minute.
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Wait, why do we have two Disappear threads on the first page? I'm confused. :|
I blame me. When I saw TheOutlawXanadu's thread, I couldn't believe that there wasn't already an appreciation thread...so, I looked it up on the index and, well, figuring that this thread would get merged by one of the Mods, I decided to post in the original.
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Wait, why do we have two Disappear threads on the first page? I'm confused. :|
It's that good.
:lol
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This song brings me to my knees quicker than a Ray Rice left hook.
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Amazing how so many people's reactions to this song were the same as mine. It's definitely my favorite DT song right now.
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This song brings me to my knees quicker than a Ray Rice left hook.
*down for the count*
lol j/k as if
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I think James LaBrie is the most underrated lyricist in the band and these lyrics are pretty good but the song as a whole is just...a really good song.
It's also one I never have the urge to listen to and its also the least exciting on Disc 1. Really there is nothing bad about it....its just not as good as the rest.
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So I'm moving on
I'll never forget
As you lay there and watched me
Accepting the end
I knew you were scared
You were strong I was trying
I gave you my hand
I said it's okay letting go time to leave here
And I'll carry on
The best that I can without you here beside me
Let him come take you home
I'm not crying.
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I think James LaBrie is the most underrated lyricist in the band and these lyrics are pretty good but the song as a whole is just...a really good song.
It's also one I never have the urge to listen to and its also the least exciting on Disc 1. Really there is nothing bad about it....its just not as good as the rest.
I actually think his lyrics are the best of DT. Yes, JMX lyrics are more poetic, but I find JLB lyrics more relatable (and quite poetic too). Even in his solo albums there are some amazing lyrics.
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I think James LaBrie is the most underrated lyricist in the band and these lyrics are pretty good but the song as a whole is just...a really good song.
It's also one I never have the urge to listen to and its also the least exciting on Disc 1. Really there is nothing bad about it....its just not as good as the rest.
I actually think his lyrics are the best of DT. Yes, JMX lyrics are more poetic, but I find JLB lyrics more relatable (and quite poetic too). Even in his solo albums there are some amazing lyrics.
I agree. I love his lyrics to CIAW, Anna Lee, and Blind Faith. The rest are almost equally kickass. I especially love his lyrics on Elements of Persuasion. For some reason, the song doesn't do all that much for me although I can't deny its a great song with great lyrics
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I think James LaBrie is the most underrated lyricist in the band and these lyrics are pretty good but the song as a whole is just...a really good song.
It's also one I never have the urge to listen to and its also the least exciting on Disc 1. Really there is nothing bad about it....its just not as good as the rest.
I actually think his lyrics are the best of DT. Yes, JMX lyrics are more poetic, but I find JLB lyrics more relatable (and quite poetic too). Even in his solo albums there are some amazing lyrics.
I agree. I love his lyrics to CIAW, Anna Lee, and Blind Faith. The rest are almost equally kickass. I especially love his lyrics on Elements of Persuasion. For some reason, the song doesn't do all that much for me although I can't deny its a great song with great lyrics
I like to see more JLB lyrics on DT though. At least 2 or 3 per album.
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I think James LaBrie is the most underrated lyricist in the band and these lyrics are pretty good but the song as a whole is just...a really good song.
It's also one I never have the urge to listen to and its also the least exciting on Disc 1. Really there is nothing bad about it....its just not as good as the rest.
I think the song has real impact on people who actually shared the experience of the story in the song's lyrics. For example, I watched my father die in his bed. We had our goodbyes, I saw the fear in his eyes, and then resignation. And then he closed his eyes, it never opened again, and we watched over him for a couple of hours as his breathing slowed down until he died.
This song captures that experience perfectly. The music fits, with the depressing shit feeling (the haunting intro), the monotony (the very deliberate, almost lifeless music as JLB sings "why, tell me the reasons why..."), the feeling that you don't want to move but you have to (when the drums enter to give a beat), and then the burst of trying to be positive (captured by DT when they entered full rock band with JLB singing "So I'm moving on..."), but still ending up feeling like shit anyway (which was captured by the ending which just went back to the intro music). The mark of an excellent song is when the music tells the story as much as the lyrics, and Disappear is excellent in that regard.
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I wish this song would just.... disappear.... haha no.
IMO , the best song on SDOIT! :laugh:
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The mood this song sets up is amazing.
This.
Beautiful emotional song with a thrilling atmosphere. A soul sibling to SDV. Brings me to tears most of the times I listen to it.
On my top 10.
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By far the best song on SDOIT and one of DT´s best ever.
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Found this old thread in the song topic topic and just had to share that like the original poster, 'Disappear' stands out as my all-time favorite in Dream Theater's catalog. Not only are its lyrics powerful, emphasizing the importance of cherishing our time with loved ones, but it also feels exceptionally unique compared to their other tracks.
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top 10 DT for me for sure
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Found this old thread in the song topic topic and just had to share that like the original poster, 'Disappear' stands out as my all-time favorite in Dream Theater's catalog. Not only are its lyrics powerful, emphasizing the importance of cherishing our time with loved ones, but it also feels exceptionally unique compared to their other tracks.
I couldn't agree more!
A little more of that 'vibey' tone on the later albums would've gone a long way in my opinion.
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Found this old thread in the song topic topic and just had to share that like the original poster, 'Disappear' stands out as my all-time favorite in Dream Theater's catalog. Not only are its lyrics powerful, emphasizing the importance of cherishing our time with loved ones, but it also feels exceptionally unique compared to their other tracks.
I couldn't agree more!
A little more of that 'vibey' tone on the later albums would've gone a long way in my opinion.
Out of Reach captured some of that, I think.
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Easily my favorite ex poster. I will continue to miss him.
I had to read this twice to get it. My feelings about that guy were all over the place. Once I got his posting style, it made reading his musings much easier.
Oh, and yeah, top 10 DT song for me.
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It might be the worst song on the record, and I still love it. SDOIT is the best album of theirs.
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Easily my favorite ex poster. I will continue to miss him.
I had to read this twice to get it. My feelings about that guy were all over the place. Once I got his posting style, it made reading his musings much easier.
Oh, and yeah, top 10 DT song for me.
Wow that post of mine 12 years old! I honestly don't even remember a user by that name anymore. I went and did a member search but didn't see it.
Huh.
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Perhaps my all time favorite DT song. Heartbreaking and haunting. I hope to see it live some day.
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Easily my favorite ex poster. I will continue to miss him.
I had to read this twice to get it. My feelings about that guy were all over the place. Once I got his posting style, it made reading his musings much easier.
Oh, and yeah, top 10 DT song for me.
Wow that post of mine 12 years old! I honestly don't even remember a user by that name anymore. I went and did a member search but didn't see it.
Huh.
He regularly posts on 5/8, that's why. Maybe he got banned? I could see it happening.
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disappear is not just a song; it's an experience. it's a song that can make you cry, make you think, and make you appreciate the people and things in your life. it's a song that can heal a wounded heart and bring solace to a troubled mind.
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Easily my favorite ex poster. I will continue to miss him.
I had to read this twice to get it. My feelings about that guy were all over the place. Once I got his posting style, it made reading his musings much easier.
Oh, and yeah, top 10 DT song for me.
Wow that post of mine 12 years old! I honestly don't even remember a user by that name anymore. I went and did a member search but didn't see it.
Huh.
Yeah, I don't believe he ever made it on this iteration of the forum. I remember his avatar was David Hasselhoff
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space-dye vest originally is about a dude dealing with the aftermath of a breakup, but if you reinterpret it in the context of disappear it becomes a song of someone being so hurt and traumatized by the loss of a loved one that they become too emotionally broken to open up to anyone out of fear of experiencing that sort of pain again
even better, listen to this playlist
the a mind beside itself suite to establish character with mental health issues, then scarred to add an element of family abuse “can’t let them rape me again” misunderstood for isolation, eve for character falling in love, these walls for character trying to seduce love interest
the mirror + lie for alcohol and trust issues, which results in light fuse and get away, speak to me for the love interest becoming distant due to the protagonist’s issues
the answer lies within for someone comforting the protagonist
repentance for the protagonist realizing he must make amends but before he can
vacant for the love interest succumbing to an illness, stream of consciousness for protagonist’s emotions
disappear for love interest’s death and finally space-dye vest for the protagonist being so hurt and traumatized by the loss of a loved one that they become too emotionally broken to open up to anyone out of fear of experiencing that sort of pain again
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what did you smoke/snort?