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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: webpoet73 on December 30, 2010, 09:23:11 PM
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Death is on iTunes and I got "Human." Was the first I have heard this album. Very good. I have Scream Bloody Gore, Leprosy, and Spiritual Healing on cassette. I looked on Amazon and I guess their discs have been discontinued. Very expensive.
Discuss this band now. What are the landmark albums? I would say they were pretty influential since the term "death metal" seems to be coined after them...
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The Sound of Perseverance is an incredible album. The only other one I have is Leprosy which is pretty good as well.
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Discuss this band now. What are the landmark albums? I would say they were pretty influential since the term "death metal" seems to be coined after them...
I love Death; one of my favorite bands.
Scream Bloody Gore = Death Metal's blueprint prototype. Good for what it is, and was a milestone, but is far from their best.
Leprosy = Basically more of the same, but improved slightly.
Spiritual Healing = I actually have never heard this album except for the first song. I was under the impression this was the only Death album that was out of print...
Human = Where they began to get "progressive." Song lyrics shifted dramatically, being more about philosophy and social issues than gore. Some would say this is their best. As much as I love it, I disagree.
Individual Thought Patterns = Another excellent album, following in Human's footsteps. Features Gene Hoglan on drums and Andy La-something from King Diamond on guitar. In my opinion, the best place to start.
Symbolic = Hands down their best, and my favorite extreme metal album ever. Phenomenal vocals, lyrics, and musicianship. A monster of an album.
Sound of Perserverance = Their swansong and second best. Although, the change in Chuck's vocals turned off some fans (he "shrieks" on this album instead of growling). Amazing album, though, and you need to listen to the cover of Judas Priest's Painkiller. It slays your face off.
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The Sound of Perseverance is an incredible album. The only other one I have is Leprosy which is pretty good as well.
Get Individual Thought Patterns now!!!
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Leprosy is the pinnacle of death metal, and will not be beaten by anything ever.
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human and spiritual healing are my recomendations
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Death is amazing.
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Symbolic = Hands down their best, and my favorite extreme metal album ever. Phenomenal vocals, lyrics, and musicianship. A monster of an album.
THIS. THIS. THIS!!!!!
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I just bought Symbolic... have to wait til later to listen.
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Sound of Perseverance is by far my favorite record of theirs. It is a flawless album, through an through.
This thread should also the home for discussion of Control Denied, which was essentially Death with a clean vocalist.
Amazing band that could've taken the metal world by storm had Chuck not tragically passed away.
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Chuck Schuldiner was such a genius... his lyrics, his compositions, his guitar playing, melodies, everything... I still can't believe he's gone :(
Sound of Perseverance is my favorite. Symbolic is my 2nd fave. I was never really a fan of their first 2 death metal albums, to be honest. But everything after that was some of the most profoundly amazing music ever created.
RIP
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The man died on my birthday. Lame as fuck. :tdwn
This thread should also the home for discussion of Control Denied, which was essentially Death with a clean vocalist.
Amazing band that could've taken the metal world by storm had Chuck not tragically passed away.
Wasn't there a good chance that Sound of Perseverance would have been the last Death album even if he hadn't passed? I remember reading somewhere that he just wanted to continue with Control Denied; and that he used some Control Denied ideas in SoP. I thought Symbolic was originally meant to be the final Death album if Chuck had had his way.
Edit: Looks like I misread your post. You meant Control Denied was the amazing band that could have taken the world by storm, or Death?
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The man died on my birthday. Lame as fuck. :tdwn
Pete Steele died on mine :(
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Benny Hill died on mine :/
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We should...start a club? :-\
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Someone would die though :huh:
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Perfect death metal, easily one of my fav bands and all albums are worth checking out. Amazing, vocals, guitar playing and stunning how chuck was mixing death metal and prog elements together.
My favs are TSOP, ITP, Symbolic and Human, but all albums are essential. Can't believe Chuck is gone, one of the greatest tragedies ever.
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I only have two of their albums, but their good though :tup
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Edit: Looks like I misread your post. You meant Control Denied was the amazing band that could have taken the world by storm, or Death?
I was referring to Control Denied. They would've fit nicely with the likes of Nevermore, Iced Earth, Kamelot, Evergrey and so on.
As for deaths, Mr. Rogers died on my 18th birthday. An appropriate send-off of my childhood. :-[
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I was born on Ronnie James Dio's birthday. :metal
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I'm going to repeat something here that I've said several times before. Chuck Schuldiner was the greatest harsh vocalist to ever live. OF ALL TIME
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Other than Mikael Akerfeldt, of course. I agree.
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I'm going to repeat something here that I've said several times before. Chuck Schuldiner was the greatest harsh vocalist to ever live. OF ALL TIME
I seem to be agreeing with you a lot today.
He was so decipherable. That's what set him head and shoulders above the rest.
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Big thread bump.
Listening to Leprosy for the first time in a while. I fucking love it. :metal
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Other than Mikael Akerfeldt, of course. I agree.
Well yeah. Mikael > Chuck. I meant in terms of vocalists who never sing cleanly.
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Anyone pick up the Sound of Perseverance 3cd remaster yet? Interested to hear what it sounds like.
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Anyone pick up the Sound of Perseverance 3cd remaster yet? Interested to hear what it sounds like.
Didn't know about this, gonna have to be on the lookout for it.
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I only have Spiritual Healing, but it's a damn good album.
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Listening to Individual Thought Patterns for the first time right now. I really like it! :metal :metal :metal
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I listened to Individual Thought Patterns today for the first time in a long time. Sooo damn good :hefdaddy I need to play it more often.
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Listening to Individual Thought Patterns for the first time right now. I really like it! :metal :metal :metal
:tup
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Can't wait for the remaster of Human! Bonus tracks, and hopefully an improved sound quality :metal
I only have Spiritual Healing, but it's a damn good album.
Human
Individual Thought Patterns
Symbolic
The Sound of Perseverence
GOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGGOO
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OH GOD THIS BAND IS AMAZING HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT
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Spiritual Healing was a masterpiece. Unfortunately, with the departure of Bill Andrews and the progression of CS's voice from a growl to a screech, I really lost all interest. I'm sure the later albums are fine, but Spiritual was really where they stopped being bad-ass to me.
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Spiritual Healing was a masterpiece. Unfortunately, with the departure of Bill Andrews and the progression of CS's voice from a growl to a screech, I really lost all interest. I'm sure the later albums are fine, but Spiritual was really where they stopped being bad-ass to me.
Not gonna lie, their (his) 4 albums after Spiritual Healing contain some of the finest music ever crafted.
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It's weird. His early voice was almost soothing. It was smooth and fit the music well. Each successive album it became more jarring and abrasive to me.
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I love his voice on all the records, but I can see how that would be a barrier of sorts, especially on TSOP.
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I listened to Individual Thought Patterns today for the first time in a long time. Sooo damn good :hefdaddy I need to play it more often.
Possibly my favourite. Andy LaRoque and Chuck made a monster guitar team.
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Anyone pick up the Sound of Perseverance 3cd remaster yet? Interested to hear what it sounds like.
Didn't know about this, gonna have to be on the lookout for it.
https://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=154591
Looks wonderful.
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Just posting here to confirm that Leprosy is still the best death metal album ever.
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I'm not late for the party am I?
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:death.... god damnit.
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Fuck yeah!! :metal
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Just posting here to confirm that Leprosy is still the best death metal album ever.
It's definitely the best classic death metal album ever. It's way ahead of its time in terms of the production (WHICH I LOVE)
I still like Symbolic and The Sound of Perseverance better though.
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Agree, I think The Sound of Perseverance is the best Death album, and by extension the best death metal album. (But don't take my opinion seriously, Death is the only death metal I listened to)
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The Sound of Perseverance is my fave too.
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Bump.
Individual Thought Patterns 3CD deluxe edition coming at the end of October. HOLY SHIT!! :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :metal :metal :metal
https://www.relapse.com/individual-thought-patterns-3cd-deluxe-reissue.html
No info yet.
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The Sound of Perseverance is my fave too.
This and Human are my favorites. Symbolic is so close though, its just amazing how great every album was really.
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Symbolic is one of the best metal albums ever.
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Symbolic is one of the best metal album ever.
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idk I think I'd take Rust in Peace and Blackwater Park over it.
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idk I think I'd take Rust in Peace and Blackwater Park over it.
I gave Rust in Peace a listen and was thoroughly displeased when I listened. Maybe I need to try again, but yeah..
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idk I think I'd take Rust in Peace and Blackwater Park over it.
I gave Rust in Peace a listen and was thoroughly displeased when I listened. Maybe I need to try again, but yeah..
Really? I could see someone not thinking it's the greatest thing ever, but I didn't think someone who likes metal as much as you would be displeased.
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idk I think I'd take Rust in Peace and Blackwater Park over it.
I gave Rust in Peace a listen and was thoroughly displeased when I listened. Maybe I need to try again, but yeah..
Really? I could see someone not thinking it's the greatest thing ever, but I didn't think someone who likes metal as much as you would be displeased.
His voice is pretty hit and miss with me, haha. There are some good tracks off the album, and when I listened to it, little siblings were screaming through the house, so I'll give it another spin, as I always love my metal, but Death shall always be a favorite of mine as I have a massive hard on for them lol
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Yeah, I understand not liking Mustaine's voice, though it isn't really central to what the album accomplishes though.
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I picked up the Symbolic remaster just last weekend. :metal
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I only have Human and tSoP, but, my god, Human is pure perfection from beginning to end. What an amazing album.
tSoP feels a little too long to me, like some of the songs overstay their welcome a bit.
I'll probably pick up ITP when the remaster comes out. I'm a sucker for deluxe editions.
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I only have Human and tSoP, but, my god, Human is pure perfection from beginning to end. What an amazing album.
tSoP feels a little too long to me, like some of the songs overstay their welcome a bit.
I'll probably pick up ITP when the remaster comes out. I'm a sucker for deluxe editions.
Plus, ITP is fucking incredible. :metal
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Fuck! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYY1lZtQZWU&feature=related)
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The Sound of Perseverance has been one of my biggest inspirations in life.
And the fact that Death didn't have one bad album is radular, every album was fucking fantastic and a perfect transition from album to album.
Control Denied was pretty cool too, I hear the second album is being completed and should be released within the year or next year!
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Fuck! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYY1lZtQZWU&feature=related)
Yeah, no shit. I posted that video somewhere here a year or so ago, but I don't see it. Maybe there's another long, lost Death thread.
Amazingly, I can neither confirm nor deny that I saw that tour in Ft Worth a day or two later. I think I was there, but I have no recollection of it whatsoever. Shows at that particular venue were always hard drinking affairs.
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Well I guess it's time for us to post our dream Death lineups.
Just list it in this format...
Guitar:
Bass:
Drums:
...since it's a given that Chuck's in the mix no matter what.
Guitar: Paul Masvidal
Bass: Steve DiGiorgio
Drums: Gene Hoglan
Also, that's really awesome that you got to see them Barto. I wish you weren't such a degenerate that you pissed away the chance to recall the show since you were too busy sodomizing your liver but you probably had a better time that way anyway :)
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Guitar: Paul Masvidal
Bass: Steve DiGiorgio
Drums: Richard Christy
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:floydapproves:
I was pretty close to leaning toward Christy as well. I just couldn't get over how Gene wowed me on first listen more than any other drummer I've ever heard. Christy may be better in all reality but had the misfortune of having my first listen of him being on TSoP well after I'd had Gene smileing all over my eardrums for several months.
Ya wanna hear some shit? Gene was actually drumming for Opeth while Lopez was dealing with his "anxiety" issues on the Ghost Reveries tour when I saw them back in '06 but since I wasn't keeping up with Opeth's affairs on any more than an occasional look at their website, I didn't even know it was him. What a blown opportunity to meet an idol :(
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Eheh, the reason I picked Christy is because TSoP was my first Death album, and it just completely blew me away, the whole package.
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Same thing with me except I started with Symbolic instead. I bought TSoP next like 3 months later and then got Human and ITP either on the same day or like a week apart two months later. I didn't get Scream Bloody Gore until like another later and then never bought any other Death until getting Spiritual Healing on DigiPak earlier this year just to stay honest with 'em since I'd had it dowloaded since the days of Kazaa.
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The Individual Thought Patterns lineup is by far the greatest and my fav Death incarnation.
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Leprosy is still the best death metal album ever.
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Also, that's really awesome that you got to see them Barto. I wish you weren't such a degenerate that you pissed away the chance to recall the show since you were too busy sodomizing your liver but you probably had a better time that way anyway :)
You assume it would be otherwise memorable. You're incorrect. This was before most people even knew who they were. They were playing a shit-hole club in Ft Worth to 200 people. Cassettes cost money and you couldn't just DL somebody's whole catalog. You might have borrowed a copy of SBG or Leprosy, but probably didn't know much about them.
People think that because a band went on to be bad ass that their early gigs would have been monumental. That's very rarely the case. The truth is, if you saw Metallica on the Kill Em All tour when you were 16, you probably wouldn't remember much about that, either. They weren't famous yet so there was no reason to really burn it into your head. Probably they're just the band that happens to be on while you're there drinking quarter beer.
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I have to say my favorite Death album would either be Symbolic or The Sound of Perseverance. Until just recently, I definitely ranked TSoP as my favorite Death album/one of my favorite albums ever, but Symbolic has aged really, really well for me. So many great songs on that album. :metal
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Bumping this because Human is awesome. :metal
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Bumping this because Human is awesome. :metal
Yes :metal
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I still think what amazing music Chuck would have been doing now if he didn't get ill. His passing still makes me sad, way too young.
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I think what's even more amazing is how much awesome music he made at such a YOUNG age. He was, what, 34 when he died? That means he recorded some of the most influential death metal albums ever-including my favorite death metal album period, Human-before he was 25 years old. What he did was fantastic, what he could have done? Probably would have been legendary.
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I still think what amazing music Chuck would have been doing now if he didn't get ill. His passing still makes me sad, way too young.
Definitely. I know that most songwriters eventually lose their touch over time, but had he lived, I don't think that would've happened with Chuck. While not every fan likes the latter Death albums or Control Denied, I think it's impossible for those individuals to sincerely call those albums 'bad'. The same can said for the earlier Death albums too. While I'm not a big fan of Scream Bloody Gore or Leprosy, I can at least listen to those albums and at least recognize that they're fantastic albums for what Chuck was going for at the time. That guy always held himself and the band to high standards and I think that would've remained the case had he lived.
I sincerely believe that Chuck Schuldiner was the Stanley Kubrick of Metal. :metal
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I got The Sound Of Perseverance about a week ago, it's a kickass album :metal
My first album by these guys.
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Took me A WHILE to get used to the CobraCommandercore vocals but I love it now. Story to Tell and Flesh and the Power it Holds form a legendary 1-2 punch.
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Honestly, when I first listened to The Sound Of Perseverance, I thought it was a girl doing the vocals.
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:lol
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The Sound of Perseverance >>> errything
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Except for Symbolic.
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Except for Symbolic Human.
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Except for Symbolic and Human.
:)
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I actually haven't heard Symbolic, so I can't comment on the veracity of that statement.
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I actually haven't heard Symbolic, so I can't comment on the veracity of that statement.
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TSoP is just the peak of Death, every album showed growth and new ideas and TSoP was perfect in every way.
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I had been listening to death metal along side my thrash phase through the late 80's. But it really hit a peak in about '92 after Metallica sold out. The whole late fall I was listening to almost nothing but death metal. Then in early '93, I just got sick of it. A constant barrage of anger, hate and frustration was really just getting to me. I still pull out some stuff from time to time, but in much smaller portions these days.
I bring this up because it was right about that time that Death started to change...so I subsequently missed out on their progressive shift. I had listened to Leprosy and Spiritual Healing non-stop...and SH in particular was probably my all time favorite death metal album. (very close with Slowly We Rot by Obituary)
I had only heard a bit of Human, and what I had heard I liked, but I never listened to anything beyond that. I should probably give the final three at least a couple of spins.
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First chance you get, listen to track 4 from Individual Thought Patterns, Trapped in a Corner. Thank me later.
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Just dropping in as the forum's resident hair metal fan to say TSoP is a masterpiece.
I'm a fan of Control Denied too.
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That shocks the fuck out of me in the heartwarmingest of ways, Lowdz. I'm always thrilled to see folks whom have primarily dwelled in other scenes enjoying stuff I like as well.
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First chance you get, listen to track 4 from Individual Thought Patterns, Trapped in a Corner. Thank me later.
My favourite album from them I'd say. Andy's solo in that song is out of this world.
And, Symbolic >> Human
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That shocks the fuck out of me in the heartwarmingest of ways, Lowdz. I'm always thrilled to see folks whom have primarily dwelled in other scenes enjoying stuff I like as well.
Surprised the crap out of me too! ;D
Great music is great music though. The musicianship is stellar.
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Have you tried any of their other albums Paul?
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Just dropping in as the forum's resident hair metal fan to say TSoP is a masterpiece.
I'm a fan of Control Denied too.
Woot woot! Symbolic is also brilliant! :metal
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Have you tried any of their other albums Paul?
I've sampled some but nothing really spoke to me. Too "death" for me ;D
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First chance you get, listen to track 4 from Individual Thought Patterns, Trapped in a Corner. Thank me later.
Listening to it now, and really digging it.
I always figured anything involving Gene Hoglan could only be improved by his inclusion. I was a *HUGE* fan of Dark Angel, and Gene has always been among the very best drummers in the history of thrash....Possibly even *the* best. Dave Lombardo and Greg Hall are the only ones I've heard to even come close. Well....Blake Richardson....but I almost consider him to be in a different genre. And Tomas Haake deserves an honorable mention as well...though again, totally different style of music.
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Leprosy is still the best death metal album ever.
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Has anyone heard anything (within the past year) about When Man and Machine Collide? You would always hear rumors that they were restarting the recordings, but it seems like nothing ever comes to fruition. The idea of unreleased, original Chuck Schuldiner tunes has been haunting me for years.
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Has anyone heard anything (within the past year) about When Man and Machine Collide? You would always hear rumors that they were restarting the recordings, but it seems like nothing ever comes to fruition. The idea of unreleased, original Chuck Schuldiner tunes has been haunting me for years.
They announced almost a year ago that they had finally gone into the studio to record the rest of the album, but there hasn't been much word on it since then. I contacted Tim Aymar on Facebook back in the Spring about it and this was his response:
Tim Aymar The best person from the band to ask would be Shannon Hamm. He's been working along with Jim and restoring the tracks and getting them ready to sing on.
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So that's that. Another thing to consider is that these guys aren't rich and I'm guessing it's costing them a pretty penny to do all of this. Hopefully we'll get the album next year. Trust me, the wait's been driving me nuts too. :tup
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Been on a Death kick lately. I dare say that Human might be my favorite album of theirs now. I'm not entirely sure. It's definitely between Human and Symbolic though.
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Scott Clandenin, the bassist on The Sound of Perseverance has passed away at 48 :(
Really sad to hear this, The Sound of Perseverance holds some of my favorite bass work of all time.
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Scott Clandenin, the bassist on The Sound of Perseverance has passed away at 48 :(
Really sad to hear this, The Sound of Perseverance holds some of my favorite bass work of all time.
Yeah, I saw that on Facebook last night (I'm friends with Bobby Koeble and Shannon Hamm there, so I saw the news on their pages). It's very tragic. :( It especially sucks knowing that half of the band responsible for one of my all-time favorite albums ever is now dead.
Clendenin had the unfortunate task of following up performances from the great Steve DiGiorgio on that album and he really nailed it. Easily the best bassist Death ever had, I think, aside from DiGiorgio himself. :metal
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Mega-bump.
Finally started checking out Death and Control Denied. Actually, think I did many years ago and was turned off by the vocals. Now I am much more open to the style. I have now ordered Leprosy through Perseverance and the Control Denied album. I was actually most interested in ITP as it has DiGiorgio and Hoglan, as they were the stars on the last Testament album, in my opinion.
All of the reissues were really cheap, which surprised me. Most are 2 disc sets. The only one I struggled with was Symbolic. Luckily, I was able to grab a used copy off of Discogs as it appears very rare.
Don't expect much traction on the thread, but I am looking forward to digging into Chuck's catalog.
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I've been digging Death again recently. I've always loved The Sound of Perseverance but felt that all the other albums were a bit samey (although still very good).
Death are easily my favourite death metal band. I love different melo-death/tech-death/progressive-death bands but Death are the only real, straight up death metal band I like. I suppose something like Bolt Thrower or Obituary are the next closest. Now that I think about it, I guess it's because they never really were a straight up death metal band, they always had Progressive elements, which is what drew me to them I guess.
Anyway, I recently watched the Death documentary that is on Amazon Prime (Death By Metal) and it's given me a greater appreciation of the band. But also made me realise that Chuck actually seemed really difficult to work with, as well as being a bit troubled. It was definitely such a tragedy that he died so young!
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It took me a long time to get into the band. Control Denied was my intro. Chuck's music with a more melodic singer.
The Sound of Perseverance was next, since it sounds just like Control Denied with Chuck singing. It was on from there and I just went backwards until I eventually acquired them all. They're such a fantastic band and Chuck was unbelievably talented.
Scream/Leprosy/Spiritual Healing were similar in nature, and then the albums after that become more technical.
Another great band in this style is Gruesome. They started as a project after the main guy sang on one of the Death For All tours. He decided to create a band that was a tribute to Death - each album/EP is written specifically in the style of a Death album.
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Anyway, I recently watched the Death documentary that is on Amazon Prime (Death By Metal) and it's given me a greater appreciation of the band. But also made me realise that Chuck actually seemed really difficult to work with, as well as being a bit troubled. It was definitely such a tragedy that he died so young!
Huh, never heard of that.. but thank you. I have just spent the first two hours of my day off watching it.
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Anyway, I recently watched the Death documentary that is on Amazon Prime (Death By Metal) and it's given me a greater appreciation of the band. But also made me realise that Chuck actually seemed really difficult to work with, as well as being a bit troubled. It was definitely such a tragedy that he died so young!
Huh, never heard of that.. but thank you. I have just spent the first two hours of my day off watching it.
Yea I had no idea it was even a thing, let alone on Prime. I'd actually gone on to watch a 'ska punk in the 90s' documentary that I'd seen someone post about on Facebook. I had to pay extra so decided not to bother, but then it recommended me loads of other music documentaries. There are some relatively obscure band ones on there.
I loved the Death one, and have been on a bit of a kick since. I'm also about half way through the thrash one :metal
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I'm not into death metal. But I don't mind early Death and much prefer their latter period, from Human to The Sound of Perseverance. Symbolic is amazing and very creative extreme metal record.
Chuck Schuldiner is one of the best metal musicians.
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I'm not into death metal. But I don't mind early Death and much prefer their latter period, from Human to The Sound of Perseverance. Symbolic is amazing and very creative extreme metal record.
Chuck Schuldiner is one of the best metal musicians.
Did we just agree on something?! :lol
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Thanks for the documentary recommendation...I've been a Death fan since I was a kid and never even knew this thing existed. I was lucky enough to see them on TSoP tour in Philly in '98 and even got to meet the entire band at a signing at a record shop on South Street. We found (a probably high) Richard Christy wandering around later on looking for a place to get cheesesteaks (or McDonalds?) Symbolic is still their best record imo but the drumming on the last 4 albums was absolutely stunning with Christy's performance especially being overwhelmingly technical and difficult to recreate.
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I'm not into death metal. But I don't mind early Death and much prefer their latter period, from Human to The Sound of Perseverance. Symbolic is amazing and very creative extreme metal record.
Chuck Schuldiner is one of the best metal musicians.
Did we just agree on something?! :lol
It seems so. ;D
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Since I resurrected this thread, I figured I'd document my thoughts as I have listened to Leprosy through Control Denied.
As of now, my top 3 are Individual Thought Patterns, Human and Fragile Art. I enjoyed all of the others, with one caveat. I wish that Chuck would have either sung Perseverance in his earlier voice or that it had been a Control Denied record with Tim singing. I got a very Warrel Dane vibe from Tim, like a more palatable Warrel - if you get what I mean. I know some people aren't fond of Warrel's voice. I found Chuck's screaming a little off-putting. I prefer his more growly approach.
Chuck was quite the talent. I'm very glad I took the plunge into his work. I know that I would have been huge on Control Denied if they had been able to continue. That sound is just so in my wheelhouse.
I will also mention that my copy of ITP has a very well recorded concert from Germany on 4/13/93. I wasn't expecting much, but it is a quality recording.
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I love his voice of TSOP but love his older voice too. My 3 are probably TSOP, ITP and Symbolic, but Human would go head to head with Symbolic.
I'll have to check the deluxe version to see if that concert is included.
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I think that 3-album run of Human - ITP - Symbolic was the band’s peak.
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I'll have to check the deluxe version to see if that concert is included.
The lineup on it is Ralph Santolla, DiGiorgio and Hoglan. About the only fault I can give the recording is Hoglan's snare sounds a little off, otherwise, the recording and mix is really release quality to me.
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https://bravewords.com/news/death-former-manager-eric-greif-dies
59. Damn.
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I saw that this morning - so sad. He did a great job with the re-issues of all of the albums.
Weird timing - I've been binging on a lot of Death and Control Denied after seeing that Human was released 30 years ago.
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https://bravewords.com/news/death-former-manager-eric-greif-dies
59. Damn.
So young.
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bump.
not Death, but related, some sad news, Control Denied singer Tim Aymar has died.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjXSA43AGxI
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bump.
not Death, but related, some sad news, Control Denied singer Tim Aymar has died.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjXSA43AGxI
I wasn't so much into Control Denied but loved Pharaoh back in the day.
I cannot find any evidence to corroborate that story re his death at this stage - hopefully not true.
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bump.
not Death, but related, some sad news, Control Denied singer Tim Aymar has died.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjXSA43AGxI
I wasn't so much into Control Denied but loved Pharaoh back in the day.
I cannot find any evidence to corroborate that story re his death at this stage - hopefully not true.
the family may not have gone public with it, but there's multiple links that mention his passing including from 1 of his former bandmates and friends Matt Johnsen
https://pmx2.krose.org/forum?action=view&forum_id=1&message_id=577845
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It's on the Death facebook page too https://www.facebook.com/DeathOfficial/posts/769095307913315
Damn... I love Control Denied and his performance on it.
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Sad to hear that.......had a very distinctive vocal presence and by all accounts was a ripper guy. :sad:
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The Control Denied album is what got me into Chuck Schuldiner's music. At the time, I couldn't stand growled vocals, but loved the idea of a death metal guy doing more of a melodic/power metal record with a different singer.
I'll be listening to Control Denied today. RIP Tim.
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The Control Denied album is what got me into Chuck Schuldiner's music. At the time, I couldn't stand growled vocals, but loved the idea of a death metal guy doing more of a melodic/power metal record with a different singer.
Same for me.
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Very sad news :-[
Big fan of the Pharaoh's records. In fact, I've always enjoyed Aymar's vocals on those better than on the Control Denied album.
(since we are talking about that too - I like it, but imo it can't quite touch Death's best material. Also, not a huge fan of Sound of Perseverance, so that might be part of it...my sweet spot is with the Human-Individual Thought Patterns-Symbolic run...as good as it gets)
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This is quite a loss, I really enjoyed both Control Denied and some of his work with Pharaoh.
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I have always loved that Control Denied record. I always kept meaning to check out Pharaoh, but never did. I finally listened to some of their stuff and it was pretty solid. I have never been a huge power metal guy, but Tim's vocals were great.
RIP Tim.
Sad that they were never able to finish the 2nd Control Denied record due to a myriad of issues...