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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: SoundscapeMN on April 28, 2009, 03:38:47 PM
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3 DVD/4CD live Boxed Set "Feed to Feed" released in June.
https://www.stereokill.net/2009/04/oceansize-to-release-live-box-set/ (https://www.stereokill.net/2009/04/oceansize-to-release-live-box-set/)
Oceansize Twitter
Some Twitters this morning:
RealOceansize I'm told the 'Feed To Feed' 3xDVD+4CD boxset will be out in June. It features live versions(plus lyrics) of all almost every song we've done
RealOceansize'Wall Carpet' has taken a magical turn. A real name is in order though i think. Writing lyrics today while Steve does some guitars.
looking fwd to that ep and the next full-length along with this new live boxed set; assuming my budget allows :P
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If I have a job, I shall try to get this. D:
But yes, Oceansize is freaking awesome. =D
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I recently got Effloresce, haven't listened to it too much. Liked what I heard.
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Feed-To-Feed
$55
https://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=7945700&style=movie (https://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=7945700&style=movie)
it's listed on play.com (https://www.play.com/Music/MusicDVD/4-/10150943/Oceansize-Feed-To-Feed/Product.html#) which they gave on twitter but is £47.99 which is pretty close to $100 to import.
new ep info September release it sounds like.
https://sputnikmusic.com/news.php?newsid=9471
"The EP (due, i'm told, in September) will be (most likely) 6 tracks. Compromising of our most 'reserved' material yet,
it does actually cover a lot of ground. 'Legal Teens' is a kind of futuristic 'Girl From Ipanema', and is one of my own
personal favourites of ours. 'Getting Where Water Cannot' is a mathematical head**** featuring pedal-steel guitar,
droning trumpets and pumping techno. 'Home and Minor' is a little choral lullaby based on a bed of tiny twittering
guitars laid out by Steven. It also features our old friend Kate Ray on vocals... (coincidentally, the trumpets were
supplied by former Earlie Tom Knott.... Kate and Tom used to be in a local Chorlton band Rocketfield.... we used to
play a lot together in the very early days... if you can get hold of their record 'Minitinfinity' you wont be
disappointed)......What else?.... Oh yeah, The Strand is, quite contrastingly, a dark ****er that broods like nothing
else we've done. I did the vocals in my kitchen. This also features a very special guest appearance at the very end.
Add to that a couple of instrumental pieces, both very different from each other, and you've got about 30-odd
minutes of material that's quite unique to our canon so far. Which i like to think you'd be expecting."
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I really should get into these guys - I saw them supporting PT in london on the minitour (for the dvd :hat) but I was late so only heard 1/2 a song of them :( What is a good starting album?
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you could go with any of their albums, but probably "Frames" their last one works as well as any.
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here's a trailer/snippet Home and Minor EP and Feed-To-Feed the new live Boxed Set.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qbIiDgjHyA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qbIiDgjHyA)
also the cover art
(https://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x110/SoundscapeMN/Oceansize-Home_Minor_Cover.jpg)
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:metal
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If any of ye live in London there's a screening of highlights of the boxset at Prince Charles Cinema on Wednesday, 8.30pm, tenner, signed boxsets up for grabs, say hi to the guys, etc, etc
Cannae go myself sadly but see the 'Size site if you're interested
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Looks like this is FINALLY available. Just ordered my copy. Will probably have to watch it on my laptop as I don't think my DVD player supports PAL, but whatever. Still should be awesome.
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It is VERY, VERY, VERY awesome
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"Legal Teens" is up to stream. Rather mellow, but in a good way.
https://myspace.com/oceansizeuk
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"Legal Teens" official video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjnIf3Mm6xI
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the new album is going to be called "Self Preserved While the Bodies Float Up" and is due in September.
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Fuckin' owsum! Known about this band for a good few years now. Effloresce is one of my favourite albums.
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Wow, how did I miss this? Now the boxset is impossible to find.
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My friend sent me one of their albums and I really like them, but not too familiar with them. Have to check this new stuff out.
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New album in September. Cannot wait.
Also new Amplifier soon too.
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I saw Amplifier supporting PT, they were awfully generic and dull.
I saw Oceansize supporting PT, they were AWESOME! :metal
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I saw Amplifier supporting PT, they were awfully generic and dull.
I saw Oceansize supporting PT, they were AWESOME! :metal
Amplifier are awesome :sadpanda:
Oceansize are doubly awesome admittedly but still... ;)
You have a last.fm shout btw
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I thought I'd better put something on this website as it hasn't been updated in a while. The follow up to Frames is almost done. Just got the saxophone quartet and the harpsichord parts to put down and it'll be done. I don't mind saying that this album will sh*t on the first three put together. But that's just my humble opinion, you might not think so, in fact you probably won't but you'll be wrong. If there was anything else of any importance happening around here I would tell you but there isn't so I won't. Go and enjoy the sunshine.
G
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Saxophones and harpsichords :metal
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I thought I'd better put something on this website as it hasn't been updated in a while. The follow up to Frames is almost done. Just got the saxophone quartet and the harpsichord parts to put down and it'll be done. I don't mind saying that this album will sh*t on the first three put together. But that's just my humble opinion, you might not think so, in fact you probably won't but you'll be wrong. If there was anything else of any importance happening around here I would tell you but there isn't so I won't. Go and enjoy the sunshine.
G
That's been up for like over a month :P
Don't take their word for it that there's a sax quartet and harpsichord on it btw. They do take the piss with their blog and stuff most of the time.
The new album title is taken from the opening lyrics to new song 'Part Cardiac' I think
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Okey dokey, so a guess at the tracklisting. It's 10 songs long we now know with 1 bonus track on the special edition.
So at a guess it's probably the 10 songs Mike's mentioned on Twitter:
Part Cardiac
Oscar Acceptance Speech
Pine
Steven's Head
Spider Rico
Magpie Soup
A Penny's Weight (ex-To The Zoo)
Ransoms
Build Me A Rocket, You Rocket Building C..t
It's My Tail
+ Tough Cookie (played live, possible bonus track)
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UK tour, sept/oct
Go to a show if you can, even a Cambridge show
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UK tour, sept/oct
Go to a show if you can, even a Cambridge show
I hope they come up north.
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UK tour, sept/oct
Go to a show if you can, even a Cambridge show
I hope they come up north.
Northern dates
18.09 - Newcastle O2 Academy 2
19.09 - Glasgow Oran Mor
20.09 - Aberdeen Cafe Drummonds
23.09 - Leeds Cockpit
24.09 - Liverpool O2 Academy 2
They always play Northern shows...they are from the North after all
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I know, but they skipped Newcastle last time. D:
and squeee, thanks for the information. When I checked yesterday it only had the four southern dates.
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the new album is being released on September 14th in America according to theprp. The UK version may come out before then.
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Yeah I think it's the 6th September in the UK
I'm afraid you shouldn't hope for any US tour dates...
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I was just a hint curious with that dredg tour rumor, but given they haven't played in the States since 2004, and it's not like the Century Media/EMI thing is allowing tons of bands to come here that never did before.
But finally having an official North American release is a baby step.
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Cover Art:
(https://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x110/SoundscapeMN/oceansize_selfpreservedcover.jpg)
here's the release dates I've seen.
US: 14th september 2010
UK: 6th september 2010
Germany: 3th september 2010
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That hasn't officially been confirmed as the artwork yet
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yeah, it was already put up on rateyourmusic and some other sites. Here's what play.com has.
slightly different cover and title.
(https://images.play.com/covers/15751425m.jpg)
Self-Preserved While The Bodies Float (https://www.play.com/Music/CD/4-/15751425/Self-Preserved-While-The-Bodies-Float/Product.html#)
1. Part Cadillac
2. Superimposed
3. Build Us A Rocket Then
4. Oscar Acceptance Speech
5. Ransoms
6. A Penny's Weight
7. Silent Transparent
8. Its My Tail and I'll Chase It If I Want to
9. Pine
10. Superimposter
Limited Edition (https://www.play.com/Music/CD/4-/15751423/Self-Preserved-While-The-Bodies-Float/Product.html)
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Pretty sure some of those titles are wrong, don't get why they'd have made such slight unnecessary changes, and if they've shortened 'Build Me A Rocket (You Rocket Bulding C**t)' I'll be well upset.
And the title definitely has an 'up' on the end.
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Damn they have changed the Rocket title :angry:
That above track listing is mostly right though, aside from spelling errors.
Part Cardiac (4:10)
SuperImposer (4:15)
Build Us A Rocket Then... (3:59)
Oscar Acceptance Speech (8:54)
Ransoms (4:07)
A Penny's Weight (3:38)
Silent/Transparent (8:29)
It's My Tail And I'll Chase It If I Want To (3:36)
Pine (4:55)
SuperImposter (5:16)
There will be 1 bonus track on a yet to be determined exclusive CD.
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the band or even just Superball music need to announce something more official.
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That is from Superball
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Just downloaded the free track off their website. Came with a lovely handwritten note that I won't spoil.
Led me to google the name of the Rocket Building Cunt track (typed "Rocket building cunt" into google, take THAT google analytics), but I found it on a setlist alongside a song called Massive Bereavement. Which I recognised as a reference to a joke off The Day Today.
Between the note, Rocket Building Cunt and Massive Bereavement I've decided that I probably need to give Oceansize another chance. I have one of their albums, but the only song I liked on it was Heaven Alive. Gonna have a listen to Superimposer, now.
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If you don't like Oceansize then you hate music, just so you know. They totally own Dream Theater and Porcupine Tree.
And Heaven Alive is like their worst song.
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Honestly, I've given SuperImposer a listen and I'm still not too sold. I don't like the vocals, and there's nothing that really sticks out musically. They're lots of good riffs, but nothing great.
Maybe Heaven Alive is the form of Oceansize that'd be up my street. I dunno. It's the only time I've listened to them and gone "oh that's a fantastic melody." The rest isn't really THAT melodic. It's just sort of rhythmic. And they're good rhythms! But the music doesn't enchant me, which is a bit disappointing after so many good reviews. I'll give 'em a few more chances, but I'm not holding my breath, tbh.
Still, I like their attitude to music and their, er, relationship with their fans? I think it's quite healthy. They've got a lot of personality, which I really dig.
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I know what's wrong...they're too awesome, you just can't take it yet, one day you will! :lol
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it's not bad, but doesn't really seem like an album-closer of their ilk. Maybe after hearing the whole album it will.
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That's because it's not an album-closer. SuperImposer is track 2, SuperImposter is the closing track.
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I have my ticket. :caffeine:
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1 early review of the new album
https://thenewreview.net/reviews/oceansize-self-preserved-while-the-bodies-float-up <- samples included there
The plentiful, yet unhealthy musical landscape currently inherited can be explained simply by consumer demand. Popular culture resembles a Big Mac – cheap, quick to fill, but also lacking a key component to long-term pleasure – substance. For every well-intentioned, honest standout artist, five individuals with a resemblance to Ke$ha will follow. With that being said, over Oceansize’s ten-plus year career, these five Brits have served as a symbolic 16 oz. steak, packing their obtuse compositions with plenty of substance, leaving many a listener over the years feeling more than satisfied after a spin of a record or two.
When commenting on the album, guitarist Gambler stated, “Most of the songs are shorter, more concise. We didn’t set out to write shorter songs, it just happened; we didn’t feel the need to drag them out and elaborate on them any further than necessary. I think we’ve been tarred with the ‘oh-they-write-long-proggy-songs’ brush so I think a few people will be quite surprised”. By reading between the lines did this mean that Oceansize were destined to sell out and subject their work to mass consumption by purging themselves of substance? Luckily, while utilizing more succinct songwriting, Oceansize’s latest release, Self Preserved While the Bodies Float Up, finds the group maintaining their hearty artisanship and at the same time trimming the excess fat, making their fourth full length release arguably their finest record yet.
The quintet begins their latest endeavor with the uncharacteristically abrasive “Part Cardiac.” Opening with ominous feedback, the initially sparse soundscape erupts with chunky guitars and the operatic vocals of front man and guitarist Mike Vennart. The aforementioned commented earlier in the album’s conception that “…there’s one tune that we’re just practicing at the moment that is just the f**ckin’ loudest, most obnoxious, sludgy, horrible, heaviest thing we’ve ever done.” If this reviewer was a betting man, “Part Cardiac” would fit this description wonderfully. In the least, the opener introduces the listener to a sleeker, more muscular version of the band.
Following closely behind “Part Cardiac” is first release, “SuperImposer.” Here, Mark Heron on skins embraces the spotlight as he pulverizes everything within arm’s reach, creating a steady, upbeat backbone on which the four other members stick to. While not nearly as memorable, third track “Build Us a Rocket Then…” maintains Oceansize’s shockingly blistering pace as Self Preserved While the Bodies Float Up reaches its middle portion.
Older fans, take a deep breath as the more timid and restrained Oceansize of yesteryear are still very present on their latest full length as the middle portion of the release demonstrates the group downshifting into slower material all the while stirring up a captivating atmosphere. “Oscar Acceptance Speech” is an extended eight-minute daze of a song as Vennart croons over subdued piano and the steady beats of Heron. About halfway through the piece is when the music decrescendos into a minimal, still utterly stunning orchestral movement that will leave one breathless. “A Penny’s Weight” continues the album’s more tranquil mid-section with a composition built on the strength of vocalists and guitarists Vennart and Steve Durose. Both men shine with their voices as the melodies presented create the airy backdrop on which the rest of the song floats. Closing the middle portion is another eight-minute adventure entitled “Silent/Transparent.” Opening quietly, the seventh piece on the album unwinds like a traditional post-rock composition – crawling at first, locating its feet, and finally sprinting to the finish line in grand fashion.
Rounding out the album, “It’s My Tail And I’ll Chase It If I Want To” resurrects the initial energy found on the beginning of the record with bombastic blasts of guitar, inadvertently giving the piece an almost euphoric sensation that rejuvenates the listener. Finally, “Pine” serves as the final highlight to an album chock full of sensational songwriting. Better have those Kleenex ready as “Pine” comes across as the most vulnerable and moving track on the album, featuring a passionate singing performance by Vennart, accompanied by a touching string section bound to make one’s icy heart melt. Without a doubt, “Pine” is one of the most remarkable compositions Oceansize have put to tape.
Self Preserved While the Bodies Float Up finds Oceansize scaling back the grandiose in favor of more streamlined, accessible material and the music presented is all the better because of these alterations. While a couple tracks suffer from less memorable songwriting, most notably “Ransoms” and “SuperImposter,” emotions are more exposed, variation is better explored, and the songwriting is increasingly dynamic on the group’s fourth and latest release. With a more digestible product, Oceansize is bound to receive the attention and acclaim they desperately deserve as the material these Brits have prepared is boundless in ambition and timeless in appeal.
That's because it's not an album-closer. SuperImposer is track 2, SuperImposter is the closing track.
you/they got me. Well that certainly a positive.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00tb026
another new song can be heard there, about 22 minutes in. "Silent/Transparent"
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I'm still resisting
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Bumping this because this band is so goddamn good.
I've been listening to Effloresce nonstop lately, and I recently got Frames as well. Such a wonderful mix of alt. rock, post-rock and progressive music. I find something new and great in each song with every listen.
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Ah, here it is. Thank you for bumping! :D
I was looking all over for this thread. Hahah.
SPWTBFU...
...and OCEANSIZE's fourth album, “Self Preserved While The Bodies Float Up”. If you're expecting classic 'Size then you'll be disappointed, this is a new refined OCEANSIZE, a more concise OCEANSIZE, a more mature OCEANSIZE.
Read more: https://www.myspace.com/oceansizeuk#ixzz0z1zbV4Yi
They're right, it isn't "classic" Oceansize. and it's interesting watching the reactions. People who're just learning about the band now and testing them with this album seem to prefer it over their older releases... whereas people I know who've been following them for a lot longer are having a tougher time digesting it. That isn't to say it's like that across the board - it's only what I've seen so far.
I like it... don't get me wrong. There are a few tracks that I'm finding myself skipping, though. Which is saddening.
Still looking forward to next Saturday. It'll be my first Oceansize gig. :caffeine:
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SPWTBFU is a great record. I don't think it's as good as Frames or Effloresce but I still think it's an awesome creation and will only get better with time (as with all 'Size albums).
They're certainly very pleased with it (well I know at least Mike and Steven are).
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I fell in love with Part Cardiac, Oscar Acceptance Speech, Ransoms, and Pine the first time through.
It's really just A Penny's Weight that I'm not too keen on now.
Yeah, hah. They're really chuffed and that makes me happy.
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Yeah, I spoke to Steven briefly a couple of months ago and he definitely gave the impression that we were really pleased to be doing something a little different and that they'd all really enjoyed the experience and that can only be a good thing, especially w/ regard to live shows as I know they were a little tired of certain songs (*cough*cough* Catalyst *cough*cough*)
APW is also the one I'm less sure on right now and Part Cardiac still sounded better when I first saw it live I think. It's probably not a complete classic but still a brilliant record.
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Buying the new album the day it's in stores here. Oceansize is quickly becoming one of my favorite bands, I think.
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This is their first direct release to the US, isn't it? I know Frames is available, but I think it was a special edition DVD pack, or somesuch. That's fantastic, 'cause they're fantastic. :laugh:
I hope that means they'll start touring in the US, too.
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I hope that means they'll start touring in the US, too.
I wouldn't bet on it, possible but unlikely I reckon
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How is the new album?
Been meaning to check it out, only album i've heard before is Frames, which didn't really impress me.
I like the opening-track on it, but after that it's fairly bland IMO.
Also heard a few tracks from Effloresce which i liked better, but nothing too memorable.
No offense to anyone liking the band or so, but my opinion about them this far is that they're a decent progressive-band, but i would put them under the B-category.
Maybe things will change if i listen to their albums even more, so thats a bit why i wonder. :P
I've already given up on Frames after about 15 plays, and only 1 memorable song.
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After a few spins I've come to really enjoy most of the album. It's really not like Frames at all. If you've heard any from their Home & Minor EP - it's a bit more like that.
bodiesinflight is the resident Oceansize guru, so he would be able to give you better advice than I could. but if you're finding yourself relating more to Effloresce than Frames, I would suggest you check out Everyone Into Position. They're the kind of band you do need to give more than one listen to, and since most of their (older) tracks top an average of 6 - 8 minutes in length I could see how that would be asking a lot; especially if you're not all that taken by them to begin with.
and none taken.
I think they're one of the best bands I've heard in recent years, but hey. To each their own an' all. :P
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How is the new album?
Been meaning to check it out, only album i've heard before is Frames, which didn't really impress me.
I like the opening-track on it, but after that it's fairly bland IMO.
Also heard a few tracks from Effloresce which i liked better, but nothing too memorable.
No offense to anyone liking the band or so, but my opinion about them this far is that they're a decent progressive-band, but i would put them under the B-category.
Maybe things will change if i listen to their albums even more, so thats a bit why i wonder. :P
I've already given up on Frames after about 15 plays, and only 1 memorable song.
1. They're not a prog band
2. Frames is one of the best albums ever released
3. They're like PT but without the bland bits :P
Hope that helped
And yes, you are right that their albums get better and better with listening
The album EIP features more 'memorable' songs I suppose, as in they are more catchy, but I still find all their songs pretty memorable from the start tbh so can't help too much there!
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I see.
But what i've heard could only be categorized as Progressive though, maybe rock more then metal, but its the only fitting category i could come up with. :P
PT has bland-bits? lies. :biggrin:
But they're my favorite-band, so hard to say anything negative. ;)
I can definitely see Oceansize growing with time, but i wasn't that impressed with Frames, and i did listen to it like 10-15 times really trying, but only Commemorative/T-Shirt got stuck on my head.
I could always give them a chance again, but then i should probably try another album. :P
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They don't need a genre, they don't fit into a category. If anything I'd call them an art rock band, as Radiohead.
Oceansize are pretty much my perfect band so it's hard for me to say anything negative about them! :lol
I'd definitely rec Everyone Into Position (sorry, EIP is an abbreviation!) for more instantly memorable songs ;)
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So the new album is pretty good, hard to make up exactly HOW good considering i've only heard it 1 time in it's entirety this far.
Superimposer made the biggest impression on me, the last 1 ½ minute of that song was just wonderful. :)
Part Cardiac was a pretty cool opener as well, some nice guitars.
Then there were some great bits here and there, but i was doing other stuff while listening to the album, and i can see & understand that it probably needs my whole attention and more spins.
A question to you Oceansize-fans here.. i somehow felt that there was a change in the vocals on this album, more vocal-effects and they sounded very phased-into the music.
Or is it just me? :P
Not a complaint at all though, i really like vocal-effects and such, but the singing on this album didn't sound like the more 'clean'-singing on Frames.
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I'm seeing them live supporting Porcupine Tree this month in Germany, making the travel from the west side of The Netherlands. Longest trip I've ever made for a concert, but it's nothing compared to the trips you American guys sometimes have to make for bands like this isn't it?
Anyway, Oceansize are obviously pretty good and unique, judging from their sound. Nonetheless they're a band where I just check out the first few tracks of an album. It usually starts out awesome but gets a bit boring as the album continues. I liked the first few tracks of Everyone into Position and Frames, so I guess I'll start by giving these albums some solid listens.
"Music for a Nurse' sounds beautiful though, listening to it right now on Spotify.
Edit: Wow, 'Part Cardiac' sounds way heavier than anything I've heard from them, did they have this kind of heavy stuff in the past, or is this the new direction they're taking?
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1. They've always done some heavy stuff in the past but Part Cardiac is the heaviest thing they've done, not a 'new direction' so to speak though.
2. Yes they have done some more vox effects on this album I believe.
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bodiesinflight @ so, after being slightly attracted to Oceansize the last 2 days or so, i searched the website of a cd-store here, and found out that they have released some limited box containing 4 cds and 3 dvds (or something like it) containing live-performances of their albums in their entirety.
It was pretty expensive, but the '5000 limited copies' and the whole idea behind it really made me interested, might purchase it.
Do you own it? or could you guide me whether its worth it or not? :P
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Really starting to get into this band lately,
Found out just now that they played in my city TONIGHT.
AWOEKNGOIWEHRLN
Really small venue as well.
Absolutely massive arse.
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Feed to Feed
I don't own it, and the biggest reason for that is it's a bit spendy being $79.54 is the cheapest via Amazon (in North America) (https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B002LSPVJO/rateyourmusic-20/ref=nosim/).
I had a bootleg of the entire Weekend though long before it was released and leaked.
But especially if you're really into them, the performances, and the set list especially, which includes the Music For Nurses EP and some others, make it pretty significant.
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bodiesinflight @ so, after being slightly attracted to Oceansize the last 2 days or so, i searched the website of a cd-store here, and found out that they have released some limited box containing 4 cds and 3 dvds (or something like it) containing live-performances of their albums in their entirety.
It was pretty expensive, but the '5000 limited copies' and the whole idea behind it really made me interested, might purchase it.
Do you own it? or could you guide me whether its worth it or not? :P
I do indeed own it and it is absolutely perfect for me because I'm such a massive fan and, of course, the performances are brilliant. However if you're still a bit undecided about the band I'd suggest you get a bit more into them before spending all the money on the boxset. If you decide you are a fan of the band though and that you like the first 3 albums then I'd definitely say that it's worth the money. It's certainly one of my most treasured possessions (not an exaggeration).
Hope that helps :smiley:
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As it is now, im leaning mostly towards buying it.
Gotta say that the new album is fantastic.. really brilliant, dont force me to write the title, because its just too darn long. xD
But i really love it, the only album i've been playing for the last 2 days.
I'm becoming a fan quickly. :)
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Good news :tup
You know that SPWTBFU isn't on the live album yeah? (not being patronising just checking you realise, wouldn't want you to be disappointed!)
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Nah, i read that its the earlier 3 albums, but i thought pretty much like this:
"hey, i love the new album, whats better then buying a box containing their 3 earlier ones being performed live?"
Because live-performances are more 'special', then also i'm a music-collector as well, when it comes to bands i really like/love, i buy their stuff that i can get my hands on.
The fact that the box is limited to 5000 copies is another 'carrot' for me, because then i would feel happy that i'm one of those 5000 owning what's hopefully a great piece of art. :)
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Oh it is, some, er, 'interesting' camera angles sometimes because of the tiny venue but it looks and sounds great and gives a fantastic impression of what the band is all about.
So wish I'd been there but sadly that weekend was just absolutely horrific timing for me :'(
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I really feel for you, especially knowing they're your favorite band.
But i saw they're playing several London-dates on their current tour, so maybe you could see them one or a few times now and get some redemption. :)
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I've already seen them 6 times tbf! And I'm seeing them twice on this tour just coming up...being at those nights would just be so special though. Ah well, I've got them on DVD and that's the next best thing I suppose!
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SPWTBFU is just amazing, all songs are good or better, with most being the latter.
Took a few listens to click though, but it's a good thing - i prefer music that grows on you, rather then the typical radio-music where there isn't really much more to 'grab' from the song the second time.
I'll agree that it isn't the typical 'new wave progressive'-music (with bands like Porcupine Tree & Riverside for example), more like art-rock with progressive, post-rock and metal influences.
But genre aside, the music is very much like a journey, especially the more post-rock influenced songs.
It's too soon to tell how high Oceansize will climb between my favorite bands, but this album is just brilliant, and i'm sure that the older stuff will grow on me as well, now when im giving it a more honest chance. :)
It's hard picking out favorite-songs from the album, but my highlights would be Superimposer, which is a brilliant song from start to finish, and Silent/Transparent which is a journey, and more epic then most progressive-songs i know. ;)
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I'm happy you've really got into the band!
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So, today i listened to both 'Effloresce' and 'Everyone Into Position' for the first time.
Effloresce struck me the most with some really amazing songs, but overall its too soon to tell, this is a band that you should give several listens before making up your mind. ;)
My album-ranking right now:
1. Self Preserved While the Bodies Float Up
2. Effloresce
3. Everyone Into Position
4. Frames
:)
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Halfway through Self Preserved While the Bodies Float Up. It's fucking awesome, and that's all I have to say about it, really. It's incredibly solid so far, this band has yet to make a dud, it seems.
I don't think I'll like it more than I do Effloresence, though I'm not done with the album yet, and it's pretty damn close.
And they broke into my top 30 on last.fm :hat I can see them reaching the top 8 rather quickly. Such a goddamn excellent band.
Also, I swear I hear Pain of Salvation's Idioglossia in Oceansize's Saturday Morning Breakfast Show.
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Tonight tonight tonight tonight. :caffeine:
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I need another Oceansize album.
I have Effloresce, which is incredibly amazing and all. Which of the other 3 should I go for next?
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I need another Oceansize album.
I have Effloresce, which is incredibly amazing and all. Which of the other 3 should I go for next?
Go chronologically.
Also, how is Ornament/The Last Wrongs so good? It's just the best thing ever, and I need to know why...
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I listened to the first track of the other 3 albums.
I want Frames next after that.
Also please don't tell me the whole Self-Preserved is like Part Cardiac. It wasn't a bad song but it's not what I think about when I think about Oceansize's sound <.<
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I listened to the first track of the other 3 albums.
I want Frames next after that.
Also please don't tell me the whole Self-Preserved is like Part Cardiac. It wasn't a bad song but it's not what I think about when I think about Oceansize's sound <.<
The album does seem much more sludgy than the previous albums, as far as I've heard so far...
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Yeah, it is pretty sludgy. But great. Give Oscar Acceptance Speech, Build Us a Rocket Then..., It's My Tail and I'll Chase It If I Want To, and Silent/Transparent a listen.
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I want more stuff like the lighter stuff on Effloresce; Long Forgotten and Amputee are my top 2 Effloresce songs, so
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I want more stuff like the lighter stuff on Effloresce; Long Forgotten and Amputee are my top 2 Effloresce songs, so
Home and Minor is much lighter, if that's what you want. All of their albums have had light and heavy dynamics, Self-Preserved just takes it to a new level.
So far Self-Preserved sounds absolutely fantastic to me. Build us a Rocket Then and Oscar Acceptance Speech really stick out so far (the latter is exceptionally beautiful) , Silent/Transparent is more of the "traditional" Oceansize sound, I think, It's My Tail and I'll Chase It If I Want To is not much like anything they've ever done.
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Not exactly looking forward to buying an EP anytime soon.
I'm just going to go ahead and get Frames - though I'd probably like the other two anyways.
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Their new album is their best imo, but im pretty new to the band. ;)
Amazing band though, love them. :heart
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Magic. They are magic live. :heart
I'd give you a setlist, but I didn't think to make one. and would you even want one? :3
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I'm honestly really surprised how much praise this new album has got. I'm not just saying on this forum, but on most of the boards I'm on, I see people gushing over it.
I've said it elsewhere, but not here. It's not a bad record, but it's clearly more different than any of their others, that it's just not demanding I go back to it, nor is it as memorable.
It's a weak 4-star record at best, and for a band who seem/ed on the verge at making their 1st masterpiece, it's a bit disappointing. Perhaps it'll age better, but for now, I can't help but be surprised how much I can't agree with a lot of reviews of it.
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I can't speak for others praising it, but i do love it myself.
Instead of going on and on about the same things, just check my review of the album under the reviews-part of the forum. ;)
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So hey what's the deal with this band?? Are they any good? :P
But yeah seriously what's the deal with this band? I mean, I keep hearing about them so I thought I'll check them out! albums/songs recommendation everyone?
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Album-wise i'd say either the newest (Self Preserved While The Bodies Float Up) if you wanna hear more where they're going, or Effloresce, which IMO sums up their earlier sound pretty good.
It's not easy giving you specific songs, because they cover a lot of ground, and a song wouldn't fairly represent the whole band.
Kinda like with PT.
Amazing band though, so checking them out is a wise thing. :tup
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So hey what's the deal with this band?? Are they any good? :P
But yeah seriously what's the deal with this band? I mean, I keep hearing about them so I thought I'll check them out! albums/songs recommendation everyone?
Probably Everyone into Position is the best starting point, although Frames and Effloresce are the best albums.
Unfamiliar is a nice introduction song...
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Everyone Into Position is such an amazing album, Music For a Nurse is like the perfect song.
8 minutes of eargasm. :biggrin:
Funny enough, Frames is the only album i haven't been able to get fully into yet.
But considering the love i've developed for the band, im saving it for last, then i will probably 'get' it. :)
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I randomly bought Effloresce a few weeks ago.. really liking it actually, interesting mix of melody and heaviness (a'la PTree) but still different. I'll prob buy their relases in order..
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Magic. They are magic live. :heart
I'd give you a setlist, but I didn't think to make one. and would you even want one? :3
The set for this tour seems to be:
1. Part Cardiac
2. Build Us A Rocket
3. Unfamiliar
4. New Pin
5. Music For A Nurse
6. It's My Tail
7. Silent/Transparent
8. SuperImposer
9. Pine
10. Paper Champ
11. Trail Of Fire
12. Ornament / The Last Wrongs
Encore (if time):
13. Women Who Love Men Who Love Drugs
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I'm far from familiar with all their songs, but setlist looks pretty good.
Some amazing songs lacking, but that's always the case with good bands. :)
My favorite-songs this far:
1. Music For a Nurse
2. Silent/Transparent
3. Superimposer
They have a lot of long & epic tracks that i haven't 'learned' yet, im thinking particularly on Frames, the last 2 songs on Everyone Into Position, and a few on Effloresce.
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Needs more You Wish and Amputee, but looks good :tup
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Needs more You Wish
You'll be lucky! If Oceansize never played that song live again I don't think it would be a surprise.
I'm one of the lucky ones cause I've seen it :laugh:
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Aye, that's the set-list.
I'm glad they had time for the encore, 'cause that might very well be one of my absolute favourite tracks from them. Seeing it live was something special.
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:hefdaddy :hefdaddy
:hefdaddy 12. Ornament / The Last Wrongs :hefdaddy
:omg:
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Needs more You Wish
You'll be lucky! If Oceansize never played that song live again I don't think it would be a surprise.
I'm one of the lucky ones cause I've seen it :laugh:
Why?
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New album-ranking. :biggrin:
1. Self Preserved While the Bodies Float Up
2. Everyone Into Position
3. Effloresce
4. Frames
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Still not entirely blown away by SPWTBFU. It's good, yes. but not mind-numbing like the way the others are.
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Still not entirely blown away by SPWTBFU. It's good, yes. but not mind-numbing like the way the others are.
Part Cardiac, Superimposer, Silent/Transparent, Superimposter...?
The list could go on an on.
The other albums are really great too though, so i can definitely see why someone would rank the albums differently, the only album that i've gotten slightly bored with is Frames, but i do intend to give it another shot when i'm done with the other 3 albums.
Hopefully it will grow on me. :)
The biggest plus i would like to give to SPWTBFU though is this:
It's probably the most varied album, and all songs are really good.
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I'm not denying that the album is good. :P
and there are a few tracks I really like. but I find that they're not that memorable.
I think SoundscapeMN summed it up best:
I'm honestly really surprised how much praise this new album has got. I'm not just saying on this forum, but on most of the boards I'm on, I see people gushing over it.
I've said it elsewhere, but not here. It's not a bad record, but it's clearly more different than any of their others, that it's just not demanding I go back to it, nor is it as memorable.
It's a weak 4-star record at best, and for a band who seem/ed on the verge at making their 1st masterpiece, it's a bit disappointing. Perhaps it'll age better, but for now, I can't help but be surprised how much I can't agree with a lot of reviews of it.
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The only downside is that the earlier 3 albums all have at least 1 song that drags a little, and even though i really like the other albums, SPWTBFU still has the highest low's.
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Needs more You Wish
You'll be lucky! If Oceansize never played that song live again I don't think it would be a surprise.
I'm one of the lucky ones cause I've seen it :laugh:
Why?
They don't appear to like it very much. It's probably the most commonly heckled for song at 'Size gigs and Mike always makes a comment if he hears to the effect of "there's no way we're gonna play that". Not sure why. They do dig it out very occasionally but very rarely. I think Amputee's probably been retired now as well. Not to mention Catalyst.
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I'm having second thoughts about purchasing 'Feed to Feed'.
First off, i do love the band, and even Frames have started to grow on me, which i didn't think considering i had a slightly bad experience with it initially.
However, i do think the price is high considering i'm not much of a DVD-watcher, normally when i buy a music-DVD, i watch it once, and then put it in my shelf, making it strictly a collectors-item.
I tend to listen more to it, like having it downloaded on my comp and listen, but then it means i'm paying ~700 swedish kr (which is like 60 pounds or something), which is a lot if i wont 'use' half of the thing (the dvd-part), and even though i love Oceansize, they aren't my Band with a big 'B'.
To describe better, normally when it comes to bands i really like, i purchase all studio-albums (in some cases i might skip an album or two, because i don't enjoy them as much), then i have my all time-favorites (a few bands) which i try to purchase as much as possible with, like EP's, T-shirts.. you name it.
Porcupine Tree (being my favorite-band) is really the only band i have where i'm always looking for anything band-related, and i guess many others have the same thing with their favorite-band.
Purchasing everything you can find with several bands is very expensive, and in the case with Oceansize, i think i'll be pretty happy just by owning the 4 cds, and maybe an EP or two in the future. (haven't checked them out yet)
I'd also like to point out that 'Women Who Love Men Who Love Drugs' is such a fantastic tune, the build-up and the climax part is epic.
Now when i've developed a love for the older Oceansize, it's bloody hard comparing the records with SPWTBFU, but one thing's for sure... this is a great band with many great songs. :tup
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Bump.
So, funny how i wasn't that keen on Frames, now i might consider it my favorite 'size-album. :biggrin:
Savant is probably my favorite track on it, but it has only brilliant tracks.. love the meshuggah-stylish guitars in Sleeping Dogs and Dead Lions, and well.. all the other tracks.
I am buying Feed to Feed in a month or so, just waiting for cash. ;)
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I got Feed to Feed about a week ago. What a fantastic performance all around.
It also further solidified my opinion that Ornament/The Last Wrongs is one of the greatest songs ever. The performance of that song on the dvd was just ridiculously good.
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Still only got their first album (v good though). To think I saw them supporting someone way back in 2002, and I start to get into them 8 years later :hat
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Yay this finally got bumped. :)
My collection consists of the four studio-albums, Home & Minor and Feed to Feed, i really want Music For Nurses, but it's rare.
Luckily i have it on the computer though. :tup
I agree that Ornament/The Last Wrongs is fantastic, however i don't see it topping Music For a Nurse or The Frame for me, those songs give the word epic a new meaning. :hat
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I have 'Music For Nurses' ;D
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I have 'Music For Nurses' ;D
Give me! If you do, i'll give you some cookies. ;)
Also, i'm really excited about the next 'size-album.
I know it wont come out until 2012 or something (at the very best), but i know it will be just as awesome as the other 4.
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I currently have Everyone into Position in my possession.
THIS BETTER BE GOOD.
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I currently have Everyone into Position in my possession.
THIS BETTER BE GOOD.
Prepare to get your mind = blown.
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I agree that Ornament/The Last Wrongs is fantastic, however i don't see it topping Music For a Nurse or The Frame for me, those songs give the word epic a new meaning. :hat
Yeah, I won't try to compare those songs... Music for a Nurse is right up there too as it is one of the top 10 most beautiful things ever. Seeing Feed to Feed would really boost your respect for Ornament/The Last Wrongs though. Those harmonies!
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Any love for The Frame? :P
Every time i hear it, i just think it's perfect... the ultimate funeral-song tbh.
Time won't change a thing when i'm gone
:heart
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The Frame is gorgeous..1 of their best songs.
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Any love for The Frame? :P
Every time i hear it, i just think it's perfect... the ultimate funeral-song tbh.
Time won't change a thing when i'm gone
:heart
don't think Mike would be delighted with that description, it's supposed to be hopeful
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I guess a song has different meanings to everyone, not like it matters. :P
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yeah I'm with bodiesinflight in that, especially the climax of the last couple of minutes is really uplifting. I'm not sure though, as it always gives me goosebumps like I get when I hear some incredibly powerful and often sad (melancholy) songs.
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I think it's uplifting but more like accepting something incredibly sad. Like a fatality or something.
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yeah, that makes a lot of sense actually.
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it's about having a child and how your life changes around that and becomes all the better for it, pretty hopeful message but obviously you can interpret however you want.
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I'm pretty clueless on what it's about, but the whole "time wont change a thing when im gone" sure sounds sad. :P
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It always seemed to make sense to me in the context of advice, most likely from father to son (he does say "son").
The last line particularly makes sense with this, as in that his life is ending, but he is the frame for another picture/life.
I always took it as a positive song.
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I'm pretty clueless on what it's about, but the whole "time wont change a thing when im gone" sure sounds sad. :P
It doesn't sound sad at all to me. It's essentially saying that things will carry on without him, he is not necessary as by then he will have given his son all he needs. His work will be done. It is acceptance of mortality rather than being depressed by it.
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Ye i guess you can look at it from that point of view, however you look at it, it's still one of their very best songs. :heart
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Does https://oceansize.co.uk/ that video mean anything? :(
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I still haven't listened to anything by these guys. RECOMMEND ME AN ALBUM KTHNXBAI
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I still haven't listened to anything by these guys. RECOMMEND ME AN ALBUM KTHNXBAI
They seem right up your alley. Really any album is good. Effloresce is their best album, but Everyone into Position is their most accessible. Frames is also brilliant. So start with Frames.
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They seem right up your alley. Really any album is good. Effloresce is the best debut, but Everyone into Position is their most accessible. Frames is their best, one of the best albums ever made. So start with Frames.
FTFY
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Does https://oceansize.co.uk/ that video mean anything? :(
Nope
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Trail of Fire is just :hefdaddy especially through the really intense part! God, I love that song!
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Trail of Fire is amazing, but Frames as a whole is probably my favorite album ever made.
All the songs are mindblowing, and i enjoy every second of it.
Effloresce, Everyone Into Position and Self Preserved... are all masterpieces as well, but there's just something about Frames. :heart
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I'm loving Self Preserved today! I've really never enjoyed it more than today.
I'm starting to dig the heavy and dense elements much more than I did when I first heard, and thus the album grows on me even more.
And Trail of Fire starting from 5:49 is still one of the greatest things ever.
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Unfamiliar is easily my favorite Oceansize song. <3 Frames
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Frames is probably my favorite album ever made, the variety and the perfection. :hefdaddy
When it comes to ranking 'size-songs, i'd say The Frame, Music For a Nurse are almost tied for the first spot.
Then comes songs like: Massive Bereavement, Women Who Love Men Who Love Drugs, Ornament/The Last Wrongs, Mine Host, Savant, Paper Champion, Silent/Transparent and Superimposer.
Oceansize has the best discography out of all the bands i know, because all 4 albums are PERFECT. (the same goes for the EPs)
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Ornament/The Last Wrongs, Music for a Nurse, and Trail of Fire would all share the number one spot for me, and a few others such as Long Forgotten, The Frame, Mine Host, etc. would no doubt be close too.
Frames has also recently rivaled Effloresce as my favorite, it's too close to call anymore!
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It's insanely hard to rank the albums, even though Frames is my favorite, the others can easily contend for that spot.
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EIP is easily the most addictive for me.
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Everyone Into Position has ONLY good (or better) songs, but i'm still not sure if has as good flow as Effloresce or Frames.
New Pin still hasn't clicked with me, at least not as much as the rest.
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Everyone Into Position has ONLY good (or better) songs, but i'm still not sure if has as good flow as Effloresce or Frames.
New Pin still hasn't clicked with me, at least not as much as the rest.
Er, I find EIP to have the highest ups of Oceansize, and it would be my favorite if not for a few weaker tracks. By "highest ups" I mean Ornament/The Last Wrongs, which is the highest up ever, and also Music for a Nurse. I actually really like New Pin. It may have less atmosphere than others but the chorus melody is so powerful.
EIP just also has a few duds to go with the two greatest Oceansize songs of all time. I never liked You Can't Keep a Bad Man Down, for instance.
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You Can't Keep a Bad Man Down is epic. :/
Not sure if EIP has the HIGHEST ups, it does have the holy 'trinity' (MFAN, Mine Host and Ornament/The Last Wrongs), but Frames is brilliant all the way through imo.
The combination of Sleeping Dogs and Dead Lions + The Frame is godlike. ;)
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Why is this debate going on? Everything they've done ever is amazing.
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Why is this debate going on? Everything they've done ever is amazing.
Pretty much this, but discussing keeps this thread alive, and hopefully more people will see our point. :biggrin:
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Why is this debate going on? Everything they've done ever is amazing.
Pretty much this, but discussing keeps this thread alive, and hopefully more people will see our point. :biggrin:
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So how about the Last Wrongs? I don't think I talk about that one enough. That guitar solo that Steve plays near the end is pretty much the greatest solo ever. Makes me even angrier that I will never be able to see them live at this rate.
Also, I must break you https://www.oceansize.co.uk/ :lol
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Ornament/The Last Wrongs is fantastic indeed, a mindblowing track for sure.
Sadly, at one point I got the question "what's the best 'size-closer?" and The Frame just beats it IMO, but it's still a top5 'size-song (maybe even 3), and a perfect closer to a perfect album. :)
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They certainly know how to finish on a good note. Except in the case of Self Preserved. every closer is easily a top 3 song (if not the best) in it's respective album.
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Not really sure that i agree with Self Preserved having a bad closer, Superimposter is AWESOME. (even though Cloak is the closer to me, since i have the limited edition on my computer)
As far as song-ranking on Self Preserved goes, Superimposter would easily make it onto the top3, together with probably... Silent/Transparent and Superimposer/Build Us a Rocket Then.
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When me and a mate interviewed Steve, he said that O/TLW has everything that Oceansize do brilliantly and has it at its best at that. He's so right.
The one thing that has started to bug me about SPWTBFU is the track listing. I just think it could be better moved around a bit, say like this (not including Cloak which isn't meant to be a proper part of the record, even though I do quite like it as a closer!):
1. Part Cardiac
2. Build Us A Rocket Then...
3. Ransoms
4. SuperImposer
5. Oscar Acceptance Speech
6. SuperImposter
7. Pine
8. Silent/Transparent
9. A Penny's Weight
10. It's My Tail And I'll Chase It If I Want
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It's My Tail as a closer is interesting. I've also had problems with the track listing, but always imagined S/T to be the closer. But I guess that's just because S/T would be the typical Oceansize closer, and it'd be cool to see one like It's My Tail.
The biggest problem I have with the track listing is the fact that Ransoms and A Penny's Weight are grouped together, and Pine and Superimposter are grouped together. I've no problem with the slow, brooding pieces - I think they're lovely - but they should be a little more spaced out in my opinion.
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I've basically wondered about the ballads/slower songs on Self Preserved being somewhat of a trail from Home & Minor. I mean if you take those tunes, and most of Home & Minor, those songs might fit well together.
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The tracklisting on Self Preserved is great as it is IMO, can't complain about it.
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I feel like getting some opinions out there.
Frames > Effloresce > Everyone Into Position
don't have Self-Preserved yet though I'll probably get it soon.
I wish more Oceansize intro songs were like I Am The Morning. The Charm Offensive and Commemorative 9/11 T-shirt are both rather... uninteresting in comparison. I Am The Morning is basically the perfect opener, the other two being "just songs" and both ranking in the lower half of their respective albums for me. It doesn't help that they both sounds really similar, though 9/11 is the one that suffers from that.
I don't care if the second-track single is a trend, because all three of them are damn good songs (though each one is slightly less good than the last...) Catalyst has some damn fine riffs, Heaven Alive has an infectious bass line, and Unfamiliar has great leads.
Man, I wish the band did more songs like One Day All This Could Be Yours. The spacey feel is done really well, and... that outro. Hell. Yes.
I feel like Massive Bereavement could be two songs, but works well as one song. I love the drums in that song, and the loud instrumental outro is just amazing.
I sort of wish Frames had a "break" song like Rinsed, Unravel, and Mine Host. An Old Friend Of The Christies has a "break" song feel but seeing as it lasts for 10 minutes... of course, I don't mind the length and quite like it. Mine Host is probably my favorite of the "break" songs... quiet, ambient first half and the second half sounds like a lighter You Can't Keep A Bad Man Down to me.
I didn't get You Wish at first, it's a tough one... love it now, of course. I love the loudness and riffs more than anything. Remember Where You Are is one song I've never quite gotten... the loud bridge is awesome but the rest doesn't do anything for me.
Amputee is one of those songs that I feel like I'm the only one who likes it... it's got great atmosphere IMO, and the chorus is probably the best on the album. Plus, the wah guitar line in the chorus is... phenomenal.
Women Who Love Men Who Love Drugs always seems like it's just there, but it's also incredibly hypnotizing... lots of great guitar lines.
Saturday Morning Breakfast Show is kinda eh... the first part seems out of place though I still enjoy it. On the instrumental... the loud parts are pretty awesome, but the middle part seems like what Long Forgotten's outro would be without the awesome. Very clumsy song IMO.
A Homage To A Shame is such a fine loud song... great riffs, great energy. I didn't like it at first but it really grew on me.
Meredith is kinda... I like the vocals but the song as a whole seems kinda just there.
Music For A Nurse is just beautiful and needs no comment. Well, okay... yeah. It's beautiful. And the outro climax is really well done.
New Pin is a very catchy song and I absolutely adore the drums in it. It always feels so short though :(
No Tomorrow... ugh. Why is this song on the album again? It's nothing special, and rather uninteresting. In fact, I couldn't tell you what it sounds like just from memory.
You Can't Keep A Bad Man Down... so energy... SO POWAH! Actually, for the first 4 minutes, the choruses are the only "amazing" parts though the rest is great. Then the break... which is a nice break indeed. When the song explodes (and this section sounds like a song literally exploding IMO) is just... hell yes. It's loud, frantic, and the vocals are also DAMMIT WHY IS THIS PART SO AWESOME. The outro's pretty damn great too.
Trail Of Fire is all over the place in terms of loudness, and it works so well. The quiet parts are great, the leads are amazing, and of course the loud parts are amazing. First song that clicked for me on Frames, and for good reason.
Savant is another song that's so beautiful it speaks for itself, though... yeah. Actually, I'm stopping here.
Only Twin is weird yet I love it so much. Definitely the darkest song the band's every written (unless something on Self Preserved tops it, though I doubt it...). I love the lyrics and I love the offbeat combination of the 5/8 time on top of the 3/4 time. Such a weird song but it just works so well.
Sleeping Dogs and Dead Lines can GTFO. I like some of the riffs, but it's out of place and also the worst Oceansize song anyways.
I will not even comment on the closers. They are all tied for my favorite Oceansize songs and can all speak for themselves.
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I don't really get what you're saying about the openers, because (even though being amazing), I Am the Morning is still probably my least favorite out of the openers. It's still fantastic, but The Charm Offensive and 9/11 T-shirt are both more "epic", which I love them for.
I Am the Morning works perfectly within the context though, it flows into Catalyst in a great way that The Charm Offensive or 9/11 wouldn't have (in terms of Effloresce), but overall I think the other 2 are better overall, they're not just openers, they are great tracks.
That intro to 9/11 is easily one of their most progressive-moments (the whole song is tbh), and The Charm Offensive is also very brilliant.
I'd love to make a topX-Oceansize list some time, but sadly there aren't really many 'size-fans on this forum. :P
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I'm not saying any of them are bad songs (there's a trend of only being one "bad" song on each Oceansize album ;)) but as openers for each of their respective albums they don't work well. It's just that they don't really sound like the rest of the album at all (and from what I've heard Part Cardiac is the same way). Like... the mood on both doesn't fit the rest of the album. It may also be that both songs have that incredibly structured and almost mechanical sound to them, which break the illusion of atmosphere that most Oceansize songs tend to have.
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Rank Frames!
1. Trail of Fire
2. The Frame
3. Only Twin
4. An Old Friend Of The Christy's
5. Savant
6. Commemorative 9/11 T-shirt
7. Sleeping Dogs and Dead Lions
8. Unfamiliar
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I get what you're saying, but I can't really agree.
The Charm Offensive pretty much sums up the overall Everyone Into Position-sound, it's more "accessible" (then Effloresce), it's more straight-forward, it's very catchy, but can also be very heavy if it wants to. (thinking about the ending)
If i were to introduce someone to Oceansize, it would be one of the ideal-songs, because from the groovy intro, to the great guitar-riff, with the catchy chorus - you get a very good song, that sum's up (not ALL), but at least gives the listener a decent picture of how this band sounds. ;)
9/11 is very different, and looking back at it now, I'd say it's really unique in their catalog.
You said that these two songs doesn't sum up the feeling of their albums very well, and for this one i can just simply say; that summing up the sound on Frames in 1 song would be impossible.
Frames is one of the most diverse albums I know, and the beautiful thing with it is that it doesn't try to sound in one way, it has a great flow to make up for it.
9/11 > Unfamiliar > Trail of Fire > Savant. That 4 song-punch is bloody brilliant, how 9/11 ends and perfectly flows into Unfamiliar, the whole flow between these 4 songs is amazing, and before you've even thought about it, half of the album has already been played. :P
9/11 was the first Oceansize-song i heard, and it immediately blew my mind.
The intro and the build-up is magnificent, and the somewhat heavy and catchy middle-section is quite pro as well, what I love the most about it would probably be the 'quiet'-part, with pretty much just the singing and some subtle guitars.
Anyway, as I see it.. Frames is like a journey. It starts with the long epic/majestic intro to 9/11, and ends with the beautiful climax in The Frame, the journey somehow feels complete. :heart
Ranking Frames would be:
1. The Frame
2. Savant
3. Trail of Fire
4. Sleeping Dogs and Dead Lions
5. 9/11
6. Unfamiliar
7. An Old Friend of the Christys
8. Only Twin
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Unfamiliar is much better than you guys give it credit for. No seriously.
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Unfamiliar is much better than you guys give it credit for. No seriously.
It's by no means a bad song. It just lacks the emotion and atmosphere of the other tracks on Frames. The melody near the end is very nice, but it's only there for a short time. The verse melodies I find weak.
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Those vocals man... amazing.
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I can't really say anything negative about Unfamiliar, because it's fantastic.
With that said, I just happen to like 5 of the songs on the album A BIT more, not like it means anything, seeing as it's the best album ever made. :P
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Frames isn't rank at all...
1. The Frame
2. Savant
3. Trail of Fire
4. Only Twin
5. An Old Friend of the Christies
6. Unfamiliar
7. Commemorative 9/11 T-Shirt
8. Sleeping Dogs and Dead Lions
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I'm wondering about your placement of Only Twin, Zantera. :-\ It has so much atmosphere and creepiness, I can't bear to see it so low.
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I love Only Twin actually, it just took the longest time to click, so I can't really compare it to the others yet, since I've loved them for a longer period of time. :P
Still, ranking Frames is pretty darn impossible.. I'm :sadpanda: whenever I see any of the songs on Frames ranked last, because they are all so very good.
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1. The Frame
2. Unfamiliar
3. Only Twin
4. Unfamiliar
5. Commemorative 9/11 T-Shirt
6. An Old Friend of the Christy's
7. Savant
8. Sleeping Dogs and Dead Lions
Voorhees is awesome as well but not counting bonus tracks in album rankings.
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1. The Frame
2. Unfamiliar
3. Only Twin
4. Unfamiliar
5. Commemorative 9/11 T-Shirt
6. An Old Friend of the Christy's
7. Savant
8. Sleeping Dogs and Dead Lions
Voorhees is awesome as well but not counting bonus tracks in album rankings.
Unfamiliar is there twice. I'm assuming the 2 spot was meant for Trail of Fire? ;D
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1. Unfamiliar
2. The Frame
3. Savant
4. Trail of Fire
5. Only Twin
6. Commemorative 9/11 T-shirt
7. An Old Friend of the Christy's
8. Sleeping Dogs and Dead Lions (the only average song on the album)
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1. The Frame
2. Unfamiliar
3. Only Twin
4. Trail of Fire
5. Commemorative 9/11 T-Shirt
6. An Old Friend of the Christy's
7. Savant
8. Sleeping Dogs and Dead Lions
Voorhees is awesome as well but not counting bonus tracks in album rankings.
Unfamiliar is there twice. I'm assuming the 2 spot was meant for Trail of Fire? ;D
No, the 4 spot is.
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Sad to see Savant and Sleeping Dogs and Dead Lions so low on the lists, both are awesome.
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Well I think all the songs on the record are perfect so the list is really totally unimportant. We're just trying to keep the thread near the top remember? :lol
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True.
So what's your guys favorite B-side by the band?
Personally I think it's Paper Champion, though I'm amazed at how amazing the B-sides are. :hat
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If by b-side you mean non-album track then:
1. Paper Champion
2. As The Smoke Clears
3. One Out Of nONE
4. Breed Siamese
5. The Strand
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I've never heard any of those, so ::)
We should discuss how good Only Twin is now. It's just an awesome song. Creepy, but awesome.
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Only Twin is pretty awesome, strangely enough it took the longest to click for me. (on Frames that is)
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DEAR GOD, HOW DO YOU FORGIVE YOURSELF?
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Agreed. I :facepalm: d hard to see Only Twin at the bottom of Zantera's list.
Anyway, It's My Tail and I'll Chase it if I want To is awesome, is it not? I haven't ever really heard a rock song that sounds much like it at s;;.
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It's My Tail and I'll Chase it if I Want To is brilliant, though well... so is everything by Oceansize. :biggrin:
Only Twin deserves to be higher on my list, but whatever song I put last I would get upset about it.
Then it's either Unfamiliar or An Old Friend of the Christy's last, and both are amazing. :'(
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It's obviously Si's vocals on It's My Tail that make it ;)
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Massive Bereavement deserves some credit, I love that song.
Probably my favorite from Effloresce, because of many reasons.
1. The intro has a great groove, and a very cool build-up.
2. The "What a way to go, I'm still running for that bus that we missed years ago"-line
3. The heavy-main riff followed by the chorus
4. The outro, with that climax :metal
Appreciate!
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What a way to go, I'm still running for that bus that we missed years ago
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Bump.
Listening to some Oceansize right now, and I'm still very sad that they broke up. :(
Still, wished more people on dtf, and other places would listen to them.
Actually having a 'marathon' now during Easter, I listened to Effloresce last night, planning to listen to Everyone Into Position tonight, Frames tomorrow and Self Preserved on Saturday. :hat
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Frames is freaking great. So is Music For Nurses. That's all I have so far! Going to get Effloresce very soon :caffeine:
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Zantera did you get that boxset they released?
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I have the physical copy in my bookshelf, I also have it on my computer obviously.
One of my best purchases ever, if not THE best. :tup
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That boxset is probably my most precious musical possession along with some of the signed stuff I have.
Can't believe it was that weekend or I would have been there :sad:
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I got pretty much all the standard stuff with the band, got the four studio-albums (the normal editions), Home & Minor EP and then the box-set.
Really want more rare stuff, but gotta go through the net then I guess.
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some of the vinyl is pretty lovely as well, rare but lovely.
The thing about Oceansize is that I can't imagine ever not loving them to bits. I hope I always feel like that.
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I'm kinda the same, and it's the reason why they are my favorite band. :P
They are one of the few bands where I can honestly say that all songs & albums are amazing, even with bands like PT there are stuff I like less then the rest.
With Oceansize it's pretty much all = godlike.
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These guys are growing on me
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YES
MOAR FANS
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:biggrin:
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Hey...you still have my CD...
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I know! I think I have other random CDs of yours too... there was a Rush one no?
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Probably. I don't really remember, to be honest :lol
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I promise I'll give them back!
...someday.
I may have taken Frames with me to Edinburgh 'cos I really liked it
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God dammit.
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Frames is the best them, so that's acceptable.
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:laugh:
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Ryan and Zantera will tell you that, but make sure you get Effloresce too.
That one's my favorite.
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I'll be sure to look into it ;)
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Well, Frames is my personal favorite.
But Effloresce, Everyone Into Position and Self Preserved are just as mindblowing, and ranking the discography is hard, pretty much changes every day. :P
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I haven't got any of their other albums yet, just got (or stole... :P) Frames and I've listened to a coupla random tracks on youtube.
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I've only head "Frames" a couple of times, but i quite like it, and it feels like it will continue to grow on me. I also heard a song of "Effloresce" which sounded really cool. This band might with time become a favorite, who knows.
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I've only head "Frames" a couple of times, but i quite like it, and it feels like it will continue to grow on me. I also heard a song of "Effloresce" which sounded really cool. This band msy with time become a favorite, who knows.
Get Everyone into Position. Personally I think it's better than Effloresce; it has some mindblowing songs on it.
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Well, when it comes to Oceansize, everything is mindblowing. :lol
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Well yeah, that's true. But Music For a Nurse and Ornament/The Last Wrongs are on a whole other level.
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Well they're both in my top5, but let's not forget other brilliant songs like The Frame, Savant and Massive Bereavement. :P
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TRAIL
OF
FIRE
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I don't get why Unfamiliar isn't considered a favorite for most. I fucking love it so much.
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I haven't got any of their other albums yet, just got (or stole... :P) Frames and I've listened to a coupla random tracks on youtube.
You still owe me money for squash and the cinema ticket.
God dammit.
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Oh yeah!
Oops ::)
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n000b
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Now everyone knows how easy it is to take advantage of Harry
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I don't get why Unfamiliar isn't considered a favorite for most. I fucking love it so much.
Well, personally I'm more a fan of the longer, epic and build-up type of songs that Oceansize has.
Unfamiliar is great for what it is, but Frames as a whole is just perfect.
Probably my favorite album ever made. :hefdaddy
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Frames is easily their best album.
It has Trail of Fire.
AND it has Savant.
AND AND it has Only Twin.
AND AND AND AND AND AND The Frame.
Yes.
Please.
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Mine Host :heart
Seriously, such an underrated song, and I think it deserves much more recognition then it already gets. :)
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The Charm Offensive is awsome :metal
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Spinning Frames right now.
Godlike. That is all. :hat :hefdaddy
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I'm really loving Everyone Into Position these days
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any mega-Size fan bass players on here?
Steven's selling the bass he used to record Frames on ebay to raise some cash
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I saw that, and if I played the bass I would have bought it asap. :P
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Times like this you wish you were a bassist...
:sadpanda:
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if only I could afford it myself then I'd buy it in a shot.
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Times like this you wish you were a bassist...
:sadpanda:
OMG nuggetz
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So I turned Zack on to Oceansize today.
He said he had an epiphany. :P
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Good job! :tup
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So I turned Zack on to Oceansize today.
He said he had an epiphany. :P
No, I said the music was itself an epiphany.
Much higher praise than what you said.
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Well enjoy getting into them. :tup
And don't be afraid of becoming a bigger fanboy then me, that's not possible.
I think the only one on this forum that's more into them then me is Ben, but I see no shame in being second after him. :P
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I think the only one on this forum that's more into them then me is Ben, but I see no shame in being second after him. :P
Do you want to, er, fight, or something?
Cause I'll fight you.
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you want to fight to be second...that's cute
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I was actually just kidding.
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so was I :tup
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Well, you could try Seth, but I'm 100% confident that I have you beaten already. :P
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I think I've listened to Catalyst about fifty times the past few days.
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I think I've listened to Catalyst about fifty times the past few days.
Good. It's amazing.
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I know! I can't stop listening!
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Catalyst is such a great song. I don't think Oceansize have ever made any riffs that good since.
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Every riff on Frames.
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I'm the biggest Oceansize fan on this board, you n00bs.
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Prove it.
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Prove it.
not that I'm a hardcore fan of theirs, but I do own Tierra Trágame and saw them live with Chris Paul back in 2006. I enjoyed their last EP "Touch the Sun" and keep tabs on them on facebook still. They have a new album in the works. So, I guess I might not be surprised if someone else around here is more into them, but I've never seen them mentioned, from what I recall, really until this post. So I'm not sure why you could claim to be a bigger fan than myself.
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I've spent over $9,000 seeing them live. So I'm not sure why you would claim to be a bigger fan than myself.
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I have a lock of Mike Vennart's hair. So I'm not sure why you could claim to be a bigger fan than myself.
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I bought all of their records on vinyl even though I don't have a turntable. So I'm not sure why you would claim to be a bigger fan than myself.
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I jerk off to Ornament/The Last Wrongs daily. So I'm not sure why you would claim to be a bigger fan than myself.
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I jerk off to their entire discography daily. So I'm not sure why you would claim to be a bigger fan than myself.
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I'm not sure why you would claim to be a bigger fan than myself. So I'm not sure why you would claim to be a bigger fan than myself.
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I claim that I'm a bigger fan than myself.
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I'm not sure why. So I'm not sure why you would claim to be a bigger fan than myself.
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So you're sure why I would claim to be a bigger fan than myself.
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So I'm not sure why you would claim that I'm not sure.
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is this supposed to be funny
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Can't you see we're busy?
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Sure, why you claim would be a myself than bigger so I'm not sure.
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So I'm not sure why myself would be bigger.
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guys i'm such a fan of oceansize that i sucked someone's dick for some coke which i traded to a giant indie for an oceansize record
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:rollin
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Well, personally I'm more a fan of the longer, epic and build-up type of songs that Oceansize has.
Unfamiliar is great for what it is, but Frames as a whole is just perfect.
Probably my favorite album ever made. :hefdaddy
only album i've heard before is Frames, which didn't really impress me.
I like the opening-track on it, but after that it's fairly bland IMO.
....
I've already given up on Frames after about 15 plays, and only 1 memorable song.
And don't be afraid of becoming a bigger fanboy then me, that's not possible.
I think the only one on this forum that's more into them then me is Ben, but I see no shame in being second after him. :P
No offense to anyone liking the band or so, but my opinion about them this far is that they're a decent progressive-band, but i would put them under the B-category.
I lol'd heartily.
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guys i'm such a fan of oceansize that i sucked someone's dick for some coke which i traded to a giant indie for an oceansize record
You could have gone directly to the big indie's dick. Less moves. :lol
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And what glorious cocaine it was.
Edit: LOL @ Mike's little discovery :lol
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Relevant to this thread: I have a new signature.
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:rollin :rollin :rollin
Oh, Mootles.
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As I slowly make my way through all their material, it is becoming more apparent to me that Oceansize is definitely poised to become one of my favorite bands ever. Too bad they fucking broke up.
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Yeah fuck that. They were absolutely amazing.
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:lol
Newb in this thread...what is the consensus of the best Oceansize album?
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Frames by a lot. That album is god.
The next two are hard to rank. Everyone into Position and Effloresce are also amazing.
Self Preserved is their weakest.
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Effloresce is their best album. A lot of people will tell you Frames, but they're all freedom haters.
I'm sure you'll like Frames, though. It's still a very good album. Everyone Into Position also makes an excellent starting point, it's their most accessible and catchy album.
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Damnit Seth, you're such a Mootles sometimes...
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Everything that Oceansize does is great.
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Damnit Seth, you're such a Mootles sometimes...
:dtismajesty:
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No, Frames is legitimately better than Effloresce. By a small margin. Then Everyone Into Position by another small margin, then Self Preserved by a slightly bigger gap.
But they're all pretty damn amazing.
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Been listening to Home & Minor a lot lately, such a fantastic EP. :hefdaddy
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Here is a short list of Oceansize songs that are above godliness. These songs transcend time and space and kick your ass so hard that you don't even know what's going on when you're listening to them.
- Massive Bereavement
- Woman Who Love Men Who Love Drugs
- Saturday Morning Breakfast Show
- Heaven Alive
- Music for a Nurse
- Ornament/The Last Wrongs
- Trail of Fire
- Savant
- The Frame
- Oscar Acceptance Speech
- Silent/Transparent
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All posts noted in this thread for when my roulette is down. Me me me so excited
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Postan in bread so as to get a more reliable update on Oceansizey goodness.
I have Frames and Self Preserved While the Bodies Float Up. The latter is godly, the former I haven't listened to enough
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Finally got Frames with the live DVD! :)
I shall report later.
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I got Everyone Into Position last month, its got some incredible stand-out tracks like Music For a Nurse and Ornament / The Last Wrongs, but it still seems that I can't absorb the other, more subtle songs as easily though :huh:
and...
Finally got Frames with the live DVD! :)
I shall report later.
:hefdaddy :hefdaddy
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Oceansize is probably the most amazing band i have discovered this year... too bad that it was after they split up :( I have only Everyone Into Position, but i'm still enjoying every bit of it.
I especially love Music For A Nurse and The Charm Offensive.
I should probably get another album of theirs really quickly.
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GET FRAMES IT'S SO GOOD
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Yeah, i will :biggrin: Is it better than EIP?
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It's funny because I saw them live for about a minute.
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Yeah, i will :biggrin: Is it better than EIP?
It's the best prog album in the last 10 years that isn't by Porcupine Tree or Opeth.
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EFFLORESCE EFFLORESCE EFFLORESCE
It's the best prog album in the last 10 years that isn't by Porcupine Tree or Opeth.
lol
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Yeah, i will :biggrin: Is it better than EIP?
It's the best prog album in the last 10 years that isn't by Porcupine Tree or Opeth.
add Townsend and Pain of Salvation to that and I'm inclined to agree with you. Lately I think I may like Frames more than Effloresce
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I'm prepared to add Devin Townsend seeing as Deconstruction is the best album ever made, but not Pain of Salvation.
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Lately I think I may like Frames more than Effloresce
God dammit don't leave me alone.
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Lately I think I may like Frames more than Effloresce
God dammit don't leave me alone.
You're not alone, I recently graduated Effloresce into my #1 Oceansize album.
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Yay!
Death to Mootles and all of his minions.
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Frames is still the best them. Idc if Mootles actually agrees with me.
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You are a slave.
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Oceansize is probably the most amazing band i have discovered this year... too bad that it was after they split up
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It's official. Ornament/The Last Wrongs is the greatest song ever written.
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It's official. Ornament/The Last Wrongs is the greatest song ever written.
I totally agree, its proper hypnotising, and dat build up!! :hefdaddy
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It's official. Ornament/The Last Wrongs is the greatest song ever written.
I totally agree, its proper hypnotising, and dat build up!! :hefdaddy
This. When someone says "XX is the best band evah" I will respond: they didn't wirte Ornament/The Last Wrongs.
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Oceansize is probably the most amazing band i have discovered this year... too bad that it was after they split up :( I have only Everyone Into Position, but i'm still enjoying every bit of it.
I especially love Music For A Nurse and The Charm Offensive.
I should probably get another album of theirs really quickly.
Always fun with another fan. :tup
The great thing with Oceansize is that all of their studio albums and EP's are equally fantastic.
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I probably finally know Self Preserved enough to fairly judge it.
Song-by-song.
right now.
GO
Part Cardiac
still the worst song in Oceansize's discography wheeee
Superimposer - Wonderfully put together song, reminds me a lot of Catalyst though not quite as good. very different regardless, and the ending is amazing.
Build Us A Rocket Then... - Man, this song is amazing. So much energy, such great riffs, and it's surprisingly catchy. Oceansize CAN write good heavy songs, and this proves it.
Oscar Acceptance Speech - Definitely well-placed on the album, very calming with lots of wonderful melodies. The instrumental ending is too short IMO
Ransoms - Such a different song for the band; way darker than anything they've ever done, but it works. I kinda wish they'd dragged it out a bit longer.
A Penny's Weight - yeah this is still pretty forgettable. I'm not even sure if I got the title right. It's just so... ordinary.
Silent/Transparent - Best on the album, wonderful lyrics and melodies in the first half and the second half is just plain epic.
It's My Tail etc. - I love the frantic sound of this song and its heaviness. It doesn't seem like the type of thing you'd expect to find on an Oceansize album but it works really well.
Pine - this should be on effloresce. Bu seriously, very nice and pleasant song. The strings really add to the atmosphere
Superimposter - Oceansize made a song with a swing feel? And it's dark sounding? I'm in, sign me up! Yeah, this one works really well... except I don't feel it's a good closer to the album. Ah well.
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Yea, Self-Preserved is really awesome. It's their weakest album, but it's got a lot of awesome stuff on it. Good review, and I agree that Silent/Transparent is the best song on the album! :tup
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I wouldn't say that Part Cardiac is their worst song, even though it's not a personal favorite or anything, it's still pretty great.
I think Self Preserved deserves more credit then it gets, for me it's easily on par with the other 3 albums, sure it's a lot of new elements, but that's what the band was going for, and I think they pulled it off great.
Silent/Transparent is still my favorite from the album.
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Part Cardiac is one of Size's best songs for me, it's just amazing.
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I think I would have liked the album more if not for the track order. It really doesn't make much sense, and sometimes the album drags because of poor placement. It's not a bad album, but definitely not on par with any of the other 3.
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Let's not forget Music For Nurses and Home & Minor, both are just as fantastic as the 4 studio-albums. :hefdaddy
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I think I would have liked the album more if not for the track order. It really doesn't make much sense, and sometimes the album drags because of poor placement. It's not a bad album, but definitely not on par with any of the other 3.
Yea, I actually agree with this. The entire album is clumped into a few sections. The first three songs are heavy, and then there is a string of like 4 quiet atmospheric songs, then a few more heavy ones. Had they reordered the album, it would have been a lot better IMO.
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I put together this order real quick, but I think it works pretty well.
The album order really isn't THAT bad but I think this makes the album better.
Build Us A Rocket Then...
A Penny's Weight
Superimposer
Ransoms
Silent/Transparent
It's My Tail etc.
Oscar Acceptance Speech
Pine
Superimposter
Part Cardiac doesn't fit on on Oceansize album so I took it out completely <_<
Yeah... only moved two songs.
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Taking out Part Cardiac is a crime against humanity.
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I wouldn't say for sure that I'd take it out, but it's definitely one of Oceansize's weaker tracks and I'd understand if someone felt that way.
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Mine Host is suck a fantastic tune, doesn't get nearly as much cred as it deserves. :heart
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It's official. Ornament/The Last Wrongs is one of the greatest songs ever written.
I totally agree, its proper hypnotising, and dat build up!! :hefdaddy
FTFM. But yeah, a really amazing song and definitely Oceansize's best
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An Old Friend of the Christy's and Voorhees.
Love the Friday the 13th references.
Two fantastic songs. :tup
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"...Christy's" is one of the better songs on Frames. Seriously, it's like post-doom.
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Here is a short list of Oceansize songs that are above godliness. These songs transcend time and space and kick your ass so hard that you don't even know what's going on when you're listening to them.
- Massive Bereavement
- Woman Who Love Men Who Love Drugs
- Saturday Morning Breakfast Show
- Heaven Alive
- Music for a Nurse
- Ornament/The Last Wrongs
- Trail of Fire
- Savant
- The Frame
- Oscar Acceptance Speech
- Silent/Transparent
This man speaks true. And here I was thinking I was the only lover of SMBS
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Quad's list is great, but it kinda lacks the rest of the discography. ;)
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Quad's list is great, but it kinda lacks the rest of the discography. ;)
Hmm fanboi much? I mean, their discography is solid, but they DO have less enjoyable songs.
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Well obviously, but all their songs are great or better.
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Well obviously, but all their songs are great or better.
I disagree. All their songs are listenable or better.
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I'm inclined to agree with mizzl.
Personally, I think Sleeping Dogs and Dead Lions is pretty annoying, actually.
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I'm inclined to agree with mizzl.
Personally, I think Sleeping Dogs and Dead Lions is pretty annoying, actually.
Yea, especially the guitar + vocal part. Aaargh
And I don't really like Homage to a Shame
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You guys are crazy, gtfo of this thread. >:(
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Personally, I think Sleeping Dogs and Dead Lions is pretty annoying, actually.
Yea, especially the guitar + vocal part. Aaargh
WTF
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But the rest of Frames is pretty much one of the most solid albums ever made, mind you.
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The weakest element of Oceansize was always the vocals.
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Seth, just take your fail with you and leave.
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I actually really like his voice...
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I actually really like his voice...
:heart :heart :heart :heart
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I actually really like his voice...
This. It fits perfectly with the music.
There is no weakest element with Oceansize.
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I actually really like his voice...
This. It fits perfectly with the music.
There is no weakest element with Oceansize.
:heart :heart :heart :heart
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Seth, just take your fail with you and leave.
Take your fanboy and leave in the opposite direction.
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Never.
This is my territory. ;)
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Ornament/The Last Wrongs is still Oceansize's best song though
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It's in the top5 fo sho.
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Never.
This is my territory. ;)
I'll fight you
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I RUN A TRAIL OF FIIIIRE
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Why the need of fighting?
It's impossible to have everything, I claim Oceansize as mine, meanwhile I would be honest and say that you deserve Susanne Sundfor for example. :P
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All mah single ladiiiieeeeezzzzz.
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Why the need of fighting?
It's impossible to have everything, I claim Oceansize as mine, meanwhile I would be honest and say that you deserve Susanne Sundfor for example. :P
Yeah, I know. :heart
(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/forumavatars/avatar_2569.jpg)
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Which reminds me... fixed a physical copy yet?
If not, just get your ass here and I can hook you up with one. :tup
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:lol
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Which reminds me... fixed a physical copy yet?
If not, just get your ass here and I can hook you up with one. :tup
Agh, no. I'm eagerly waiting for it's availability. I'm hoping for a tidal wave of US fans after the fact, more than anything.
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It's in the top5 fo sho.
What's better?
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It's in the top5 fo sho.
What's better?
Good question.
50% of Porcupine Tree :neverusethis:
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It's in the top5 fo sho.
What's better?
The Frame and Music For a Nurse comes to mind right away.
I did a list some time ago, and I think Ornament was either nr3 or 5, but not really sure how a list would look now.
Paper Champion, Getting Where Water Cannot, Savant, Massive Bereavement and Superfluous to Requirements are five other songs that I would rank high.
And mizzl @ This might sound very fanboyish, but seeing as I love both Oceansize and PT to bits, my personal opinion is that PT has never reached the highs that Oceansize has.
PT are my second favorite band, but I'd take all of Oceansize's material over PT's material.
But again, that's me and someone else might say differently. ;)
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PT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oceansize
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As much as I love PT, the answer is no.
And I'm a much bigger PT-fan then you are letters. ;)
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Because being a bigger fan is a big deal.
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Obviously.
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But no, PT is wayyyy better than Oceansize will ever be (heh.)
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PT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oceansize
lolno
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But no, PT is wayyyy better than Oceansize will ever be (heh.)
Jeez would you stop it already?
I mean, no matter if I may agree with you, it's pretty silly
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Yeah letters, you should just gtfo.
You're dragging down the overall quality of this thread by 90% on your own. ;)
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Ryan and Mootles should just accept their differences and have make up sex in this thread.
gogogogo
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DRAMA PIGS, MEDIA WHORES
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*takes off pants*
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PT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oceansize
lolno
lolyes
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Cool people like me saw Oceansize and PT at the same gig.
(https://edge.imgur.com/mlzk6.png)
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PT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oceansize
lolno
lolyes
PT is probably better but there's way too many >s, it's a disservice to Oceansize, who are amazing
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PT better then Oceansize?
What have you been smoking? :biggrin:
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no the best band ever is royal hunt stfu
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PT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oceansize
lolno
lolyes
PT is probably better but there's way too many >s, it's a disservice to Oceansize, who are amazing
Hmm true. More like PT >>>>> Oceansize
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More like Oceansize >>>> PT.
Anyhow, this discussion is rather lame overall.
Instead, let's discuss how amazing Music For Nurses is. :hefdaddy
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Oceansize's first 4 albums probably > PT's first 4 albums, but PT then made 6 more.. ::)
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Oceansize's Discography > PT's first 3 albums, after that notsomuch :biggrin:
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Yeah but PT's first 4 are amongst their best, Signify and UtD at least.
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Yeah but PT's first 4 are amongst their best, Signify and UtD at least.
:lol
:|
You're serious?
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Well, Signify is their best, UtD their third best, with FOABP coming in as nr2.
But old PT feels like a somewhat different style, newer PT is more similar to Oceansize, even though it's two very different bands.
But I'd take Oceansize's albums over PT's modern albums any day, IA and DW has nothing on Effloresce and Everyone Into Position.
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IA and DW has nothing on Effloresce and Everyone Into Position.
Ok that is just plain funny, I'm sorry. I mean, Oceansize makes great albums, but comes nowhere near PT imo.
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opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and they all stink
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Except mine.
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IA and DW has nothing on Effloresce and Everyone Into Position.
Ok that is just plain funny, I'm sorry. I mean, Oceansize makes great albums, but comes nowhere near PT imo.
Dont worry, it will all be obvious when you get older.
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IA and DW has nothing on Effloresce and Everyone Into Position.
Ok that is just plain funny, I'm sorry. I mean, Oceansize makes great albums, but comes nowhere near PT imo.
Dont worry, it will all be obvious when you get older.
I sincerely think PT makes more mature music than Oceansize
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Everyone rank all the PT and OS albums in a huge list. see where they fall.
Oh, and no EPs, Mootles.
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1) Deadwing, In Absentia, Fear of a Blank Planet, Lightbulb Sun, Stupid Dream (I honestly can't rank these)
2) Frames
3) Everyone Into Position
4) Effloresce
5) The Incident
6) Signify
7) The Sky Moves Sideways
8) Up the Downstair
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1. Frames
2. Effloresce
3. Self Preserved
4. Everyone Into Position
5. Signify
6. Fear of a Blank Planet
7. Up the Downstair
8. Lightbulb Sun
9. Deadwing
10. Stupid Dream
11. The Incident
12. The Sky Moves Sideways
13. In Absentia/On the Sunday of Life
If we would do EP's, then
1. Music For Nurses
2. Home & Minor
3. Nil Recurring
4. Futile
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If we would do EP's, then
1. Music For Nurses
2. Home & Minor
3. Nil Recurring
4. Futile
I knew you wouldn't be able to resist.
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Well, EP's are part of discographies.
Just because you haven't heard them doesn't mean they don't exist. ;)
Anyhow, things worth pointing out with my ranking is that Nil Recurring isn't far behind Home & Minor, though Futile is quite a bit below Nil Recurring.
Album-wise, Signify, FOABP and UTD aren't much behind Everyone Into Position, though there's a gap after those 3 PT-albums.
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How is the new album?
Been meaning to check it out, only album i've heard before is Frames, which didn't really impress me.
I like the opening-track on it, but after that it's fairly bland IMO.
Also heard a few tracks from Effloresce which i liked better, but nothing too memorable.
No offense to anyone liking the band or so, but my opinion about them this far is that they're a decent progressive-band, but i would put them under the B-category.
Maybe things will change if i listen to their albums even more, so thats a bit why i wonder. :P
I've already given up on Frames after about 15 plays, and only 1 memorable song.
Quad's signature brought me to this post.
All I have to say is
lol
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There's nothing lol about it really.
The first time I heard Frames was like 3-4 years ago, during a time-period when I listened to pretty much only metal-music, I hadn't even heard PT back then.
I spinned it twice, it didn't click (surprisingly), and that was the 'attitude' I brought into this thread when their last album came out.
Needless to say, people can be wrong, even myself. ;)
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No actually it's pretty lol.
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Not more lol then letters saying things like "Trains is the best song ever" and then voting Trains in the first round of the IA-survivor.
That's pretty much more amount of fail right there. ;)
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>implying internet polls are srs bsns
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>implying that every post you see on a forum is srs bsns
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How is the new album?
Been meaning to check it out, only album i've heard before is Frames, which didn't really impress me.
I like the opening-track on it, but after that it's fairly bland IMO.
Also heard a few tracks from Effloresce which i liked better, but nothing too memorable.
No offense to anyone liking the band or so, but my opinion about them this far is that they're a decent progressive-band, but i would put them under the B-category.
Maybe things will change if i listen to their albums even more, so thats a bit why i wonder. :P
I've already given up on Frames after about 15 plays, and only 1 memorable song.
>implying this post wasn't srs
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>implying that you know how serious I am better then I do
:rollin
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... wat
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:|
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I love it how this thread has been constantly been dropping in quality ever since letters and Quad started listening to Oceansize. ;)
Anyhow, Feed to Feed is such a fantastic live-album. Or live-DVD or whatever you wanna call it.
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I love it how this thread has been constantly been dropping in quality ever since letters and Quad started listening to Oceansize. ;)
Anyhow, Feed to Feed is such a fantastic live-album. Or live-DVD or whatever you wanna call it.
>Bringing me into a conversation I had nothing to do with.
Go away, Mootles.
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Dude, stop going offtopic all the time.
What does your post have to do with anything?
Again, Feed to Feed is awesome.
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I've decided Frames is my favourite. I just can't get over the quality of the song run of Unfamiliar (love this one) to Only Twin. Then after the epicness that is ...Christy's you get The Frame, one of my favourite Oceansize songs. Great album.
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Sounds great! :tup
The good thing with Frames is that it's very hard to pick favorites, every song has it's part on the album, and combined it's just great.
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It also definitely sounds like more of a cohesive album than a collection of songs, which is a quality I like.
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I know exactly what you mean, because I feel the same way.
But when it comes to making albums, I feel like Oceansize had that quality.
People might argue about Self Preserved, but Effloresce, Frames and Everyone Into Position (tho maybe not as much as the first two) are really 'album'-albums.
Kinda the same with their EP's as well, both Home & Minor and Music For Nurses has a really great flow. :tup
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Sleeping Dogs and Dead Lions is the definition of a flow-killing song.
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Goddammit Seth.
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Sleeping Dogs and Dead Lions is not only a fantastic song, but it also works perfectly on album.
The place between An Old Friend of the Christy's and The Frame is just suited perfectly for Sleeping Dogs and Dead Lions, and I also love how the heaviness of the song is the opposite of the lightness of The Frame.
Dynamics at their best. :heart
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Any news on why they split?
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Well there aren't any news, but the only reasonable thing would be conflicts within the band.
I mean, they had just invested in a new studio for upcoming albums, and Mike said in several interviews how psyched he was about the future.
Seeing as Oceansize always were a very diverse band sound-wise, my guess is that everyone didn't agree on what direction they would take, though obviously this is just me speculating. ;)
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That's what I thought, it seemed really bizarre :S Are there definite new projects from the various members in the works yet?
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Well, there are several future-projects planned and such, though I'm not really sure if all of them will actually release stuff, but these are the sideprojects as of now:
*British Theatre (Mike and Gambler)
*Kong (Heron and Hodson)
*Mild Eyes (Hodson)
*Hhaitch (Mike)
*Richard Ingram (Gambler)
*Chandelier Swing (Hodson)
*Krem (Heron)
*Shamefaced (Heron)
*Gluck (Jon Ellis)
*Phelan (Gambler)
More info with twitter sites and such: https://sizeboard.com/
Personally I'm mostly excited about Mike's projects, though I'll certainly check out the others as well.
Oh yeah and also, Durose joined Amplifier, so pretty psyched about that. :tup
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I saw Amplifier live supporting Porky Tree. They were terrible =/
I hope some of the sideprojects turn out to be good, it's irritating when bands split and the new projects are a shadow of their former selves (SOAD etc.)
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Yeah I know what you mean, though from your example I actually preferred Scars on Broadway over SoaD. (yeah I might be weird)
As for Amplifier, I haven't seen them live, but studio-wise they are really great.
Their debut album and The Octopus, can't wait to see if Durose is part of the band permanently or just additional live guitarist (like Mike was with Biffy Clyro).
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FUEL FOR THE FEEDING END YEAHH
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And I don't really like Homage to a Shame
:tdwn
The weakest element of Oceansize was always the vocals.
:|
Ornament/The Last Wrongs is still Oceansize's best song though
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It's in the top5 fo sho.
;)
PT vs. Oceansize discussion as a whole
:facepalm:
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Oceansize :hefdaddy
Porcupine Tree :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
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Mizzl, just leave this place. ;)
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Mizzl, just leave this place. ;)
Nah ;)
Oh and I take back that Homage to a Shame sucks.
It's actually very good, just not as good as the rest of the album.
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I don't really know where I would rank it on EIP.
It wouldn't be lower then New Pin, but it would still probably be closer to the bottom then the top, but it's still a fantastic tune. :hat
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wtf New Pin is awesome
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I'm not implying that it's not, but I would probably rank A Homage to Shame higher. ;)
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I'm not implying that it's not, but I would probably rank A Homage to Shame higher. ;)
Nope.
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I'm not implying that it's not, but I would probably rank A Homage to Shame higher. ;)
Nope.
Yep.
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Well, that actually made me interested in ranking the album.
Even though it's bloody hard, I would probably rank the songs on EIP something like this:
1. Music For a Nurse
2. Mine Host
3. Ornament/The Last Wrongs
4. The Charm Offensive
5. Meredith
6. Heaven Alive
7. No Tomorrow
8. A Homage to Shame
9. You Can't Keep a Bad Man Down
10. New Pin
Something like that I suppose.
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Ornament/The Last Wrongs (best Oceansize song by far)
Music For a Nurse
Heaven Alive
The Charm Offensive
Meredith
New Pin
A Homage to Shame
No Tomorrow
Mine Host
You Can't Keep a Bad Man Down
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Ornament/The Last Wrongs (best Oceansize song by far)
Music For a Nurse
Heaven Alive
The Charm Offensive
Meredith
New Pin
A Homage to Shame
No Tomorrow
Mine Host
You Can't Keep a Bad Man Down
This exactly.
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:heart
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I remember back when you said Unfamiliar was by far the best Oceansize song
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That was when I had only listened to Frames. :lol
I still fucking love that song
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Listening to Frames for the first time as a whole. I think so, anyway...Grooveshark has 7 tracks for it.
I like it. I'm sure it'll grow on me with subsequent listens.
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It has 8 songs, or 9 depending on which version you have, seeing as "Voorhees" is a bonus track. (or a B-side if you will)
So Grooveshark is still missing one then. ;)
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Voorhees :metal
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Ornament/The Last Wrongs
Music For A Nurse
You Can't Keep A Bad Man Down
New Pin
Homage To A Shame
Mine Host
Heaven Alive
The Charm Offensive
Meredith
No Tomorrow
I'm the only one who likes You Can't Keep A Bad Man Down, huh? :-\
Oh and I like every song a lot... No Tomorrow's just ruined by a crappy first half, even though the second half would rank up with the best of their stuff on its own.
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You Can't Keep a Bad Man Down is fantastic, the only 'negative' thing I can say about it is that maybe it drags just a little bit.
Around the part where it kinda slows down like the song is about to end, but then continues for another minute or so, that minute could've been skipped PERHAPS.
I still really dig the song though. :hefdaddy
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Listening to Frames for the first time as a whole. I think so, anyway...Grooveshark has 7 tracks for it.
I like it. I'm sure it'll grow on me with subsequent listens.
:tup
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I believe I am definitely the biggest fan of Oceansize out.
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I believe I am definitely the biggest fan of Oceansize out.
WRONG. ;)
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I think Frames has 8 tracks
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I found out yesterday that Grooveshark has a "See More" feature when searching for songs, so it probably does have all 8 songs. :facepalm:
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Maybe the track that was missing was Sleeping Dogs because Grooveshark knows how bad that one is in comparison to the rest.
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Maybe the track that was missing was Sleeping Dogs because Grooveshark knows how bad that one is in comparison to the rest.
Hmm maybe
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Sleeping Dogs is awesome stfu
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Sleeping Dogs is awesome stfu
It is definitely, just doesn't match any other song on Frames by far
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Sleeping Dogs is actually my 4th most scrobbled 'Size song on lastfm.
It's a really fantastic song that shouldn't be getting any hate whatsoever, simply amazing tune.
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zomg the flow mang
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Sleeping Dogs is actually my 4th most scrobbled 'Size song on lastfm.
It's a really fantastic song that shouldn't be getting any hate whatsoever, simply amazing tune.
Yes but The Frame, Trail of Fire, Unfamiliar, Commemorative T-shirt, Savant, Only Twin, Old Friend and Voorhees are all better
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Maybe the track that was missing was Sleeping Dogs because Grooveshark knows how bad that one is in comparison to the rest.
I agree with the notion of Sleeping Dogs being a weak track. The vocals really don't work on that one.
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It's hard ranking some of the individual songs against each other, however I do feel like Sleeping Dogs is rather important for the flow and Frames as a whole.
It just works perfectly between AOFOTC's and The Frame, take it away and that fantastic dynamic would be gone.
I'm not saying it's one of their best songs, but Frames really wouldn't be the same without it.
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It's hard ranking some of the individual songs against each other, however I do feel like Sleeping Dogs is rather important for the flow and Frames as a whole.
It just works perfectly between AOFOTC's and The Frame, take it away and that fantastic dynamic would be gone.
I'm not saying it's one of their best songs, but Frames really wouldn't be the same without it.
You're actually very right, come to think of it. Old Friends into Sleeping Dogs into The Frame is pretty amazing
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I just listened to Self-Preserved for the first time. My first impression: pretty unremarkable, but I'll give it repeated listens to let it sink in.
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Oh, it was Voorhees that was missing, but the list wasn't the complete one...they have it all from Frames. :tup
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Vorhees is a B-side. There's still 8 songs though, are you sure you weren't missing any?
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The only version of Frames that has Voorhees on it is the deluxe-version or whatever, but if you're listening to it on grooveshark then it probably has all the songs. :tup
Ravenheart @ Fantastic album, pretty much the album that got me into the band, and I still love it for that reason. :heart
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Commemorative 9/11 T Shirt ooo yeeah :hat
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Commemorative 9/11 T Shirt ooo yeeah :hat
One of their more progressive songs, fo sho. :hat
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Isn't it "Commemorative ____ T Shirt" ?
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Isn't it "Commemorative ____ T Shirt" ?
Think it's named that on the album but is also known as 9/11..
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it was Commemorative 9/11 T-Shirt, I guess they censored the title before they released it like they did with Build Us A Rocket... because they're PUSSIES.
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Mike Vennart states that "Commemorative ____ T-Shirt" - originally entitled "Commemorative 9/11 T-Shirt" - doesn't have "anything to do with 9/11. I was sold a t-shirt by the singer of the Cardiacs. On the label it read 'For ages 9-11', and when he sold it to me he said "oh, here's one of our commemorative 9/11 teeshirts," so I got thinking about what sort of person would wear a 9/11 teeshirt. Someone who's not really looking to the future.[8]
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Mike Vennart states that "Commemorative ____ T-Shirt" - originally entitled "Commemorative 9/11 T-Shirt" - doesn't have "anything to do with 9/11. I was sold a t-shirt by the singer of the Cardiacs. On the label it read 'For ages 9-11', and when he sold it to me he said "oh, here's one of our commemorative 9/11 teeshirts," so I got thinking about what sort of person would wear a 9/11 teeshirt. Someone who's not really looking to the future.[8]
This. It's still "Commemorative ____ T-Shirt" though, and should be called that.
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I just call it 9/11 or Commemorative T-Shirt, don't really bother with the ____ or ...
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Mike Vennart states that "Commemorative ____ T-Shirt" - originally entitled "Commemorative 9/11 T-Shirt" - doesn't have "anything to do with 9/11. I was sold a t-shirt by the singer of the Cardiacs. On the label it read 'For ages 9-11', and when he sold it to me he said "oh, here's one of our commemorative 9/11 teeshirts," so I got thinking about what sort of person would wear a 9/11 teeshirt. Someone who's not really looking to the future.[8]
This. It's still "Commemorative ____ T-Shirt" though, and should be called that.
Who gives a shit? I call it 9/11
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Burning Shed have a few copies of Self Preserved signed left.
BUYS
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Too bad that I already have a copy of the album. :/
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Mike Vennart states that "Commemorative ____ T-Shirt" - originally entitled "Commemorative 9/11 T-Shirt" - doesn't have "anything to do with 9/11. I was sold a t-shirt by the singer of the Cardiacs. On the label it read 'For ages 9-11', and when he sold it to me he said "oh, here's one of our commemorative 9/11 teeshirts," so I got thinking about what sort of person would wear a 9/11 teeshirt. Someone who's not really looking to the future.[8]
This. It's still "Commemorative ____ T-Shirt" though, and should be called that.
Who gives a shit? I call it 9/11
this
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I call Metropolis, Part 1: The Miracle and the Sleeper Metropolis so
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Too bad that I already have a copy of the album. :/
Sell it on, give it to a charity shop, give it to a friend.
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I would probably get the signed copy if I had mastercard/VISA or whatever, but I've been seriously slacking on getting that.
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Ok so oceansize is quickly becoming my 5th favorite band
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Ok so oceansize is quickly becoming my 5th favorite band
I would say this if The Dear Hunter didn't exist.
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Ok so oceansize is quickly becoming my 5th favorite band
I would say this if The Dear Hunter didn't exist.
They're both top 5
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PT, Opeth, Coheed, TDH, and dredg.
Actually, I considered Oceansize.
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dredg is amazing but Oceansize didn't make Chuckles
rethink your list
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Chuckles > your face
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PT > PoS > Coheed > Anathema > Oceansize
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PT, Coheed, dredg, TDH, Mew
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They're all definitely among my favorites, though not my top 5
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They're all definitely among my favorites, though not my top 5
Yeah but you listen to all those Emilys, so you don't count
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They're all definitely among my favorites, though not my top 5
Yeah but you listen to all those Emilys, so you don't count
you fail
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They're all definitely among my favorites, though not my top 5
Yeah but you listen to all those Emilys, so you don't count
you fail
:mizzl:
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They're all definitely among my favorites, though not my top 5
Yeah but you listen to all those Emilys, so you don't count
That makes perfect sense.
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I feel like this thread has been drifting slightly offtopic lately.
Anyhow, Getting Where Water Cannot is such an underrated tune, it would most likely end up in my top5 Oceansize-songs. :hat
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I feel like this thread has been drifting slightly offtopic lately.
Anyhow, Getting Where Water Cannot is such an underrated tune, it would most likely end up in my top5 Oceansize-songs. :hat
Ooh I have to listen to this song
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is that on an EP?
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is that on an EP?
Mootles is talking about it, so it's obviously better than everyone song on the albums.
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I just want to know what EP it's on so I can try and find it
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_and_Minor
Took me ~10 seconds. :P
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It's on the Home & Minor EP, perfect nighttime music tbh.
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I'll have to get it!
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Shouldn't be too hard to find, no matter if you're downloading or buying it. ;)
It's pretty common in stores, sadly that does not apply to Music For Nurses which is much more rare, but still probably obtained through Amazon or similar sites.
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Home and Minor is pretty awesome. Really nice to hear a mellow side to their work.
I'm still kicking myself for having never heard Music for Nurses, though. Gotta make that a priority.
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Home and Minor is pretty awesome. Really nice to hear a mellow side to their work.
I'm still kicking myself for having never heard Music for Nurses, though. Gotta make that a priority.
Music For Nurses is considered by many to be their best release, so I mean, judging by that, it's obviously something you should hear.
Even if you may not like it as much as others. ;)
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making both a priority
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I've settled on Long Forgotten as my favourite off of Effloresce. Massive Bereavement is amazing, but it doesn't really belong up there with the quasi-minimalist epics like Music For A Nurse, Ornament/the Last Wrongs and The Frame. If I were to rank my favourite songs they would be:
Music For A Nurse
The Frame
Ornament/the Last Wrongs
Long Forgotten
Those are really "The Big Four" I guess.
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Long Forgotten is really fantastic, so great to see some love for it. :)
My rankings kinda change everyday, but top5 as it would look now.. (no particular order)
The Frame
Music For a Nurse
Paper Champion
Getting Where Water Cannot
Savant
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1) Ornament/the Last Wrongs
2) The Frame
3) Music for a Nurse
4) Savant
5) Long Forgotten
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Ornament/The Last Wrongs
Trail of Fire
Massive Bereavement
The Frame
Music For a Nurse
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I've also been listening to Self Preserved... and I've gained an appreciation for Oscar Acceptance speech. It just ends so beautifully.
Silent/Transparent is also really great
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Self Preserved is much better then people give it credit for, I'd say it's on par with the rest.
Silent/Transparent is actually my favorite, though Oscar Acceptance Speech is really darn fantastic as well.
It took some time to grow on me, but like the whole album it was really rewarding. :hefdaddy
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I really have a thing for It's My Tail and I'll Chase it if I want To, actually. I mean, I love the energy and liveliness behind it (especially since I felt that is exactly what some of the Self Preserved tracks were lacking) and the whole thing really just rocks. It's got almost a punkish vibe to it.
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Yeah, it's really a killer-track.
I also think it works really awesome after Silent/Transparent.
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Self-Preserved arrived, listening to it with my new audiophile headphones for my first (Attentive) listen.
On Silent/Transparent at the moment, it's really awesome!
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Sounds great! :tup
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I want to know what the album cover is.
And the album was only signed by 3 of them :(
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I'd say it's the front of a woman or something?
At least that's the most reasonable explanation I've heard this far.
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Finished Frames, it was pretty cool. The production was a lot more full, I preferred it, and it was a bit catchier though I think overall weaker.
Just starting Everyone into Position, it seems very catchy already, its lacking a bit dynamically though...
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Everything needs time.
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half way into Effloresce, after one listen it goes:
Everyone into Position > Self Preserved > Frames.
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lol
Frames
EiP
Effloesce
Self Preseved
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Self-Preserved last? Why?
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It's not that it's bad, it's just that the other 3 albums are so fucking amazing.
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faemir, I love you and all... but if you start doing album-rankings after one listen, especially with Frames last, I might have to stalk you in your dreams.
ITS ON. :flame:
Also, Self Preserved is fantastic, and equally as good as the rest.
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Frames
EiP
Effloresce
Self-Preserved
Still need to hear the EP's. I'll get around to it soon.
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ITS ON. :flame:
Everyone into Position > Self Preserved > Effloresce > Frames (https://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110506161915/callofduty/images/5/55/MrExpert_Trollface-Left.jpg).
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That will change soon enough.
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Yeah, got a few EPs to put above Frames ;P
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Oceansize is one of those bands where the EP's are actually better then the albums, something I've never really seen somewhere else.
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:O really? Which ones! I already have Music For Nurses.
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Well, Music For Nurses and Home & Minor.
There are a few others with B-sides, but those would more fit under the 'Singles'-term.
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Second listen of Frames, yum.
I still haven't found a good non-artifacted artwork scan though, I'll need to dust off my scanner.
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I want to know what the album cover is.
TITS
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I want to know what the album cover is.
TITS
:lol I see it now!
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Frames > Everyone Into Position > Effloresce > Self Preserved
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So Faemir, any update on your progress? :>
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Frames > Everyone Into Position > Effloresce > Self Preserved
I'd go with the top 3 there, not got Self Preserved yet though.
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Nah, been out all day revising (on my birthday no less...grumble)
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Fair enough.
Well, make sure you fall in love with this band and document the different stages of fanboyism in this thread like I did. :biggrin:
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Build Us a Rocket Then... is such a great song \o/
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Yeah, I'd say it's really one of my favorites on the album.
Reminds me of Mastodon for some reason, but I love it how much variety is in that song, seeing how short it is.
Really a great mix of heavy and soft.
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A good sign of a new band i like is that even though i dont know their stuff at all, and i'm not thinking every moment on this is awesome, I'm finding more and more bits that I think "hey thats cool", and i didnt get bored of 5 album listens in a row.
The last time this happened was Thrice and they are in my top 5 bands sooo :D
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I know what you mean.
Before discovering Oceansize, I used to think that PT was my favorite band, but that quickly changed.
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I don't think that will happen to me to be honest :P
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I bought Frames some time ago. I love it.
I'm not sure if i like it more than EiP, though, but it is certainly a fantastic album.
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I finally found Red Rag to a Bear and Siberian Bullshit (songs from the Frames-sessions for newbies), and man.. two really fantastic songs.
I just love it how this band has B-sides just as amazing as the songs on their albums. :hefdaddy
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Reminds me of another band...
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How is Cloak as good as Silent/Transparent?
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How is Cloak as good as Silent/Transparent?
Who said it was? :P
Cloak is actually a rather fantastic song, but Silent/Transparent is my favorite from Self Preserved, so I wouldn't hold Cloak AS high.
Still a very solid tune though, love the unique vibe it has.
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I worked out what the problem with self preserved is.
After the final segment of Oscar, ransoms and a penny's weight are too slow, which makes the whole album feel like it drags. Take them out and it's far better. I'm gonna play around with the track arrangement once i know the album better. SuperImposter isn't a very good closer either compared to their others, Oscar or Silent/Transparent would work far better (though its a great song)
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Superimposter is actually a very great closer IMO, it has a very unique-vibe to it.
But I rarely get to experience it as a closer, seeing as I listen mostly to the special edition with Cloak as the closer instead, and I think that song works good as well.
Silent/Transparent wouldn't really be a good closer, the climax isn't the 'closing an album'-type of climax, it's no The Frame-climax we're talking about here, and also... one of the best parts on the album is the transition from Silent/Transparent to It's My Tail...
Don't think Oscar would've been a good closer either, kinda like the same with Silent/Transparent, the whole ending of the song doesn't feel like it would fit the use of ending a full album.
As for the album dragging, I don't agree at all.
Ransoms and A Penny's Weight are both fantastic, and if two mellow songs in a row means that an album drags, then there would be far more worse examples.
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I love the two songs, but I still think it slows the pace down too much, so it's easy to lose interest - I have a similar problem with Alaska by BTBAM.
Okay maybe not S/T, but Oscar would work fine. I like closers to either be bombastic or gradual - and Oscar fits the second fine. SuperImposter is a great song, but it just seems to just...end. It's not a mini-epic, it's just a good song.
How good is Cloak?
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Cloak is rather great, maybe not so much as an individual track, but as a closer its good.
It's a very subtle song, both in instrumentation and vocals, so it kinda gives the album a certain 'fading out'-feel, before the album ends.
It's pretty good in that sense, seeing as Part Cardiac kinda fades into some heaviness as the opener.
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Okay, this is a big thing for me... Oceansize has overtaken PT as my favourite band with my latest listen of Everyone Into Position. This album is too good. Each song is good in a way that it shares with no other song on the album (i.e. they are all unique) and each song I listen to I think "This must be the best song on the album". This album is incredibly diverse and IMO the band covers each explored sound and feel perfectly. The album is a masterpiece.
The thing is, it isn't even my favourite release by this band. I still think Frames is better. IMO, Oceansize has reached higher highs than PT and done it more consistently in their short existence. The only songs where I think PT contends with Oceansize are Dark Matter, ASBNH (I seem to like this one more than some other members on here), Anesthetize (I actually do like the third section and I think the song is paced perfectly) and the slightly more obscure Stars Die (while this might not be the most exciting song, it really puts me in a mood and IMO lacks any real flaws).
Sure PT has some great songs (really the only ones I dislike are all on OtSoL) but they are of a totally different style from Oceansize, and I like Oceansize's style better.
But god fucking damnit I wish I got to see them together on stage.
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Dude, I get exactly where you're coming from, seeing as I feel the same way. :)
It's actually pretty crazy.
PT is still my second favorite band, but I'd almost say that Oceansize's lows are equal to PT's highs, Oceansize really are that fantastic, even if it makes me a fanboy. :hat
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Okay, this is a big thing for me... Oceansize has overtaken PT as my favourite band with my latest listen of Everyone Into Position. This album is too good. Each song is good in a way that it shares with no other song on the album (i.e. they are all unique) and each song I listen to I think "This must be the best song on the album". This album is incredibly diverse and IMO the band covers each explored sound and feel perfectly. The album is a masterpiece.
The thing is, it isn't even my favourite release by this band. I still think Frames is better. IMO, Oceansize has reached higher highs than PT and done it more consistently in their short existence. The only songs where I think PT contends with Oceansize are Dark Matter, ASBNH (I seem to like this one more than some other members on here), Anesthetize (I actually do like the third section and I think the song is paced perfectly) and the slightly more obscure Stars Die (while this might not be the most exciting song, it really puts me in a mood and IMO lacks any real flaws).
Sure PT has some great songs (really the only ones I dislike are all on OtSoL) but they are of a totally different style from Oceansize, and I like Oceansize's style better.
But god fucking damnit I wish I got to see them together on stage.
I saw them on stage together :D
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No matter how much brilliant music Oceansize made, they will never, ever top Porcupine Tree IMO
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No matter how much brilliant music Oceansize made, they will never, ever top Porcupine Tree IMO
Yeah but nobody cares about your opinion. :biggrin:
Nah but seriously, to each is own.
I understand people having PT as their favorite band, because they were mine for a very long time, and I still consider them to be second behind Oceansize.
Also, Faemir.. any update on your fanboyism towards this band? ;)
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One other thing about Oceansize that sets it apart from PT - almost all of their tunes are completely original-sounding (at least to me). There are PT songs where you can tell, "Oh Steven must have been listening to album X while he wrote Y". With Oceansize there might a riff or two that seem like they are similar to a certain bands style, but that one riff will be embedded in a song containing twenty other riffs completely different from it. The combination of different stylistic elements in Oceansize's music (it's a very dense, layered sound) make it original.
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Yeah I agree.
Also, I feel like Oceansize has more variety in their sound then PT, or at least pull it off in a slightly better way.
Not dissin' on PT at all, but some people talk about SW's music have a certain 'mood' (no matter what kind of music it is), and I can understand them to a certain degree.
Anyhow, great to see more people getting hooked on Size. :)
Have you had the time to hear the B-sides and such, Pirate?
Apart from the studio-albums and the two EP's (Music For Nurses and Home & Minor), there are quite a few B-sides spread out on singles and such, and they are really fantastic as well.
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Well, the thing is I'm a young lad without an endless supply of cash so I haven't bought any of the albums, but I 'own' them if you know what I mean. I can't find the EPs where I got the albums, but I have heard some of the songs you've mentioned like Paper Champion and Getting Where Water Cannot, just from Youtube uploads. They were mighty good, so I'll have to allocate those EPs somehow.
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Well, the thing is I'm a young lad without an endless supply of cash so I haven't bought any of the albums, but I 'own' them if you know what I mean. I can't find the EPs where I got the albums, but I have heard some of the songs you've mentioned like Paper Champion and Getting Where Water Cannot, just from Youtube uploads. They were mighty good, so I'll have to allocate those EPs somehow.
Yeah I know what you mean, I own the studio-albums, Home & Minor and Feed to Feed, but on the computer I have pretty much everything they have released. :P
There are quite a lot of B-sides, but it shouldn't be too hard for you to find it. :)
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No matter how much brilliant music Oceansize made, they will never, ever top Porcupine Tree IMO
yeee
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I like oceansize and all, but they've never really stood out for me beyond just being a 'good' band.
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Sorry to disappoint Zantera, i've been on a Muse-fest :P
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I'm just curious: Where do all the PT and Oceansize comparisons come from? I mean, I see a few vague similarities, but it never occurred to me that they have a lot of uncanny resemblances to each others' sounds. Maybe I'm not hearing them right, though.
And aside from Frames, I don't think Oceansize have had any "classic" albums, to be honest. They're very good, though.
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Sound-wise Oceansize and PT aren't similar at all, but it's a common comparison because they are both two bands within the "new"-prog scene, and many people who listen to that type of music would consider at least one of them their favorite band. :P
As for Frames being the only 'classic', personally I have it as my favorite, but that doesn't make the rest albums any less good.
This is one of the few examples with a band where I just love everything, albums, EP's, B-sides and all, a quality that even PT don't have for me. (they do have some meh-songs throughout)
But yeah, two great bands.
Faemir @ I'm not sure what's most disappointing, not listening to Oceansize or wasting time listening to Muse. :biggrin:
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I'm just curious: Where do all the PT and Oceansize comparisons come from? I mean, I see a few vague similarities, but it never occurred to me that they have a lot of uncanny resemblances to each others' sounds. Maybe I'm not hearing them right, though.
The Porcupine Tree comparisons are made mostly by association, I guess, as I think Steven Wilson has had nice words about Oceansize and vice/versa. Unless you mean exclusively here, in which case you can probably blame all of the PT fanboys.
Personally I'm with Sigz on Oceansize, I like them a lot, especially with the Effloresce album which is my favorite of theirs, but I wouldn't consider them a top band of mine, really.
But hey, opinionators gonna opinionate
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Personally I'm with Sigz on Oceansize, I like them a lot, especially with the Effloresce album which is my favorite of theirs, but I wouldn't consider them a top band of mine, really.
But bro.. I thought we would get married and adopt kids n stuff. :(
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Oh silly ole' Oceansize isn't getting in the way of that
they can be the wedding band, actually
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Makes sense, I guess.
The Porcupine Tree comparisons are made mostly by association, I guess, as I think Steven Wilson has had nice words about Oceansize and vice/versa. Unless you mean exclusively here, in which case you can probably blame all of the PT fanboys.
Yeah :lol that's what triggered me to ask the question in the first place.
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Also, Zander.. you really need to listen to moar Oceansize, so you can come and live with me and Seth, in your own room above the garage. :)
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Ok, but I want air conditioning for at least 5 minutes a day.
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That we can do! :tup
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Zantera, can you give me a few recommendations to start me on Oceansize?
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Sure.
I'd say all four are good starting points for different reasons, but the first three seem to work better generally then the latest album.
Frames is probably considered their best by the majority of fans, I would say that it is an 'album-album', in the way that all songs are really great, and you don't really want to skip one.
It displays most of the band's different styles and influences, and overall it is fairly progressive.
Everyone Into Position is comparable to albums like In Absentia and Images & Words in the way that it's more "easy" to get into, because some of the songs are more accessible, something the band has gotten both good and negative reviews about.
This album has a good mix of easier and more 'straightforward' songs, and some really long and epic, progressive-songs.
Effloresce is their debute album, and I would probably say that it's their most progressive studio-album, sound-wise.
It has a lot of really strong tracks, combined with a few instrumental shorties in between, and overall it has both shorter and catchier tunes, and longer & more progressive songs.
You really can't go wrong with any of these, so just go for what sounds the most appealing for now, and if that one doesn't click, you can always check out any of the others. :)
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I started with Frames and worked my way backwards from there, for what it's worth. Great, great band. Zantera's descriptions are pretty much spot on.
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Thank you I'm taking notes now!! :tup
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Sounds cool! Hopefully you'll like them. :)
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So I went to bed early last night and decided to put Frames on to have some music to fall asleep to.
Holy. Crap.
I drifted in and out of sleep, but it was I was in the album. The music was gorgeous and made the whole experience beautiful. I made it to The Frame to where I fell asleep. I can already tell this album will be a top 50 for me.
That was my second listen to the album thus far.
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So I picked up
Effloresce
Everyone Into Position
Frames
Self Preserved While the Bodies Float Up
Someone suggest which album to listen to right now when I work in my yard.
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Frames
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Frames
Thanks! I'm heading out now and it will be the first spin.
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Effloresce or Everyone Into Position.
Frames requires more focus then those, and I feel like it's a better album if you're really paying attention to it more.
Effloresce and Everyone Into Position are both more accessible, and you'll most likely enjoy them even if you are doing something which decreases your focus towards the music.
Just my 5 cents. =)
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Effloresce is my favorite, so that would be my recommendation.
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I agree that Effloresce is the better album but I think Frames would be better in a yardwork situation.
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I don't think you can go wrong with any album to be honest.
Sure I heard Frames first many years ago and didn't like it, but when I got into the band for real I started with Self Preserved, and it worked like a charm.
And Self Preserved is still the album many fans consider to be the 'last' starting-point.
I think both of their EP's would work really good as well.
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I do get to concentrate the best when I'm working in the yard (Unless of course the music in playing on my stereo with no distraction) so there is focus on the music.
Edit: I've also got noise canceling headphones I use when working in the yard. So I'll go with Quads advice and try Effloresce when I'm outside again tomorrow. Thanks everyone!!
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I was playing along to Trail of Fire on drums a week ago and the epic part came up and so did I.
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Frames is the best.
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If only they would re-unite and make more awesome music.
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Fuck Biffy Clyro.
Actually, they're okay. I like them.
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If only they would re-unite and make more awesome music.
Did we ever get an official explanation of why they broke up?
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Nah we haven't.
My guess is that they wanted to go in different directions, seeing as Self Preserved is probably their most diverse album in that sense.
Some really heavy songs, some very mellow.
If that's the case though, it's a pretty lame reason.
They have always been a band of many genres, and one of their best qualities was that their music had a lot of variety, they could've easily continued making albums satisfying both the need for heavy but also more mellow music.
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It would've been a direction I could get behind. If that was the problem, had they stayed together we might've seen a great album to follow Self-Preserved.
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So I loved Frames. Atmospheric, well crafted, melodic. A great contrast to the hot sunny day it is. It took my mind off of the heat.
On first listen my favorite song was Sleeping Dogs and Dead Lions.
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I've heard that song also has an alternate title, "Meshuggah"
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So I loved Frames. Atmospheric, well crafted, melodic. A great contrast to the hot sunny day it is. It took my mind off of the heat.
On first listen my favorite song was Sleeping Dogs and Dead Lions.
I love that song!
Most people around here seem to diss it, but ignore that, because it's a truly fantastic song, that adds a lot of atmosphere to the album. :tup
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Sometimes it's the one different song that catches you off guard. I stopped working and grabbed my water and took a break while listening to it.
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Sometimes it's the one different song that catches you off guard. I stopped working and grabbed my water and took a break while listening to it.
Yea the first time I heard that song I was caught off guard as well. Such a neat thing to do on an album like that! AFAIK it's the only song of theirs that is even remotely like that.
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Personally I just feel like Steven Wilson got a lot of inspiration for The Incident from that, the same "type" of heaviness is featured on that album, and he has praised Oceansize in interviews and such.
But yeah, just a guess. ;)
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Personally I just feel like Steven Wilson got a lot of inspiration for The Incident from that, the same "type" of heaviness is featured on that album, and he has praised Oceansize in interviews and such.
But yeah, just a guess. ;)
I'm not sure about that. In Absentia in 2002 is when PT went to a heavier sound while still retaining the atmosphere. I often wondered id Opeth influenced him.
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Well, the Opeth-influence is quite clear.
However, I was talking about the dynamic-shift if you look at Circle of Manias and I Drive the Hearse, and compare it to Sleeping Dogs and Dead Lions and The Frame.
The whole djent-type of riff and a heavier song, followed by a very soft song.
Never the less, I love it. :hat
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I'm heading back out and I've give Effloresce a listen after the new Yes.
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Effloresce is a lot more raw and experimental. Less polished, less confident, but it's their masterpiece. Few bands create debut albums are peculiar and interesting as Effloresce.
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I find Effloresce to be a bit post-rockish
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Effloresce is pretty incredible for a debut. Prefer the following 2 albums though :hat
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Even though Frames is my favorite, Effloresce might be the best debut-album I've come across.
That really says a lot about it's quality.
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Right on for it being a bit raw. Loved it and it is a great first album. It had a bit more of a bit and helped me as I lugged the bark much all over the yard. I've give the other 2 cd's a spin tomorrow.
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Awesome! :)
Hopefully you'll enjoy them too!
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king, which album did you like better (first impression of course) ?
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king, which album did you like better (first impression of course) ?
Frames but it was close. Though it was only one listen each. I was going to listen to the other 2 tomorrow but my buddy called me in to work with his boss so no music till I get home. :'(
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The thing that still amazes me about Oceansize is how high quality everything is.
Even their B-sides spread across singles and such, they could've easily ended up on an album.
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So, I'm listening to Frames for the first time. 1:15 into the first track. Been meaning to give this band a shot for such a long time..
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My parents ordered the Frames CD/DVD for my birthday... can't wait till it arrives.
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So, I'm listening to Frames for the first time. 1:15 into the first track. Been meaning to give this band a shot for such a long time..
Hope you liked it! :)
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So, I'm listening to Frames for the first time. 1:15 into the first track. Been meaning to give this band a shot for such a long time..
I was just listening to Frames today 'cos it's been a while, love that album :heart
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Frames still remains my all time favorite album, it's just such a masterpiece. :heart
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You, my friend, have good taste in music.
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My problem with Frames is that with the exception of T-shirt, Christy's, and Sleeping Dogs, I fucking despise how every song on that album begins, even though they're all good songs. Something about their beginning just makes me cringe so much.
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You make me cringe so much.
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You, my friend, have good taste in music.
Well thank you! Same goes for you Tahlia. :heart
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:laugh:
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You make me cringe so much.
:'(
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You make me cringe so much.
:'(
:heart
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Also, Oceansize still remains the most consistent band I know.
Everything from their albums to every single B-side is just amazing, and this band should work out their differences and start making music again. :/
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I still need to check out their other stuff, all I have really listened to at this point is Music for Nurses, Frames, and Self Preserved.
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Check out Effloresce!
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I will :D
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:D
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Yeah, you're in for a treat with Efffloresce.
and if you liked Frames you'll really love most of Everyone into Position.
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Yeah, you're in for a treat with Efffloresce.
and if you liked Frames you'll really love most of Everyone into Position.
But all of it is a masterpiece? ;)
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yeah pretty much
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Frames > everything else they've done
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yeah pretty much
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It's hard to say, even though Frames is my pesonal favorite, I feel like Effloresce and EiP are just as good quality-wise, it's all preferences really.
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After listening to some of the EPs I can see what you mean, Zantera. Superfluous to Requirements and Paper Champion in particular have risen to the top of my faves list.
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My problem with Frames is that with the exception of T-shirt, Christy's, and Sleeping Dogs, I fucking despise how every song on that album begins, even though they're all good songs. Something about their beginning just makes me cringe so much.
Not for me. My only gripe (not really anything bad but you know) is that it feels too long (TWSS). Quality music, a little too much fat. I still love Frames though.
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After listening to some of the EPs I can see what you mean, Zantera. Superfluous to Requirements and Paper Champion in particular have risen to the top of my faves list.
Awesome! :)
Their EP's and all the B-sides spread out on Singles and such are just amazing, songs like Relapse, Superfluous to Requirements, I Haven't Been the Claw For Ages and Sizeofanocean are so fantastic!
And then I didn't even mention Music For Nurses or Home & Minor, both of them are mindblowing as well.
For those who have missed it, there are also some fantastic B-sides from Frames, some of you might be familiar with "Voorhees" which is on the special edition, but I'm talking about "Red Rag to a Bear" and "Siberian Bullshit", they are both fantastic. :hefdaddy
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My problem with Frames is that with the exception of T-shirt, Christy's, and Sleeping Dogs, I fucking despise how every song on that album begins, even though they're all good songs. Something about their beginning just makes me cringe so much.
Not for me. My only gripe (not really anything bad but you know) is that it feels too long (The filter owns my soul). Quality music, a little too much fat. I still love Frames though.
I think Frames is one of those albums with the perfect amount of payoff for it's buildup and vice versa. Then again, I love minimalism and use it a lot in my songs so maybe I have a skewed opinion of these sorts of things in Prog Rock.
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On first listen my favorite song was Sleeping Dogs and Dead Lions.
We... can't be friends, sorry.
also they're all great albums and they're all very different and hard to compare. Frames is best and Self Preserved is least best but the other two are about equal and flip-flop for me from time to time.
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Got the DVD. Can't play it on PS3 cus it doesn't support PAL, but it works fine on XBOX 360. I'm currently getting blown away.
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Got the DVD. Can't play it on PS3 cus it doesn't support PAL, but it works fine on XBOX 360. I'm currently getting blown away.
Feed to Feed or Frames Live? :)
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Oh hi there Zantera didn't expect seeing you up in here again
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Gotta keep the thread alive so people will discover them. :)
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Got the DVD. Can't play it on PS3 cus it doesn't support PAL, but it works fine on XBOX 360. I'm currently getting blown away.
Feed to Feed or Frames Live? :)
Frames Special Edition.
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Cool stuff. :metal
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Bump.
https://www.britishtheatremusic.com/
The new project with Mike Vennart and Richard Ingram.
The videos has me excited. :caffeine:
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Dead Dogs an' All Sorts is an amazing song.
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Dead Dogs an' All Sorts is an amazing song.
Music For Nurses as a whole is quite possibly my favorite EP, so amazing. :hefdaddy
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Giving these guys a shot, I'm only on the third song of Effloresce and WTF WHY HAVENT I LISTENED TO THIS BEFORE
Actually I did because these songs sound familiar, I believe at some point I gave them a listen but I must have been dropped on my head as a kid because for some reason I discarded them.
Should I go on listening by release date or is there any other preferred order to get into them?
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Release date sounds pretty good to me, you'll hear a nice transition from Effloresce to Everyone Into Position, and then from EiP to Frames, while they still have that Oceansize-sound. Self Preserved.. is quite different, but I love it never the less.
So yeah, checking them out chronologically is a nice idea, later when you're familiar with the studio albums I would also recommend their two EP's; "Music For Nurses" and "Home & Minor", both are awesome and on par with the rest.
The band also has many B-Sides spread out on singles and here and there, I'm glad to say that I have all of them (I think!) collected on my comp. :D
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Cool, thanks for the heads up. You just lost one weapon for my upcoming survivor though :P
Last two songs on Effloresce left, this is awesome. I think I'm going to give it another listen once I'm done, I want to soak it in before moving on to EiP. If the rest of their discography is as good as this, I can see this band storming into my top 5 in a couple of weeks.
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I think you will love both Everyone Into Position and Frames, they're not miles apart Effloresce soundwise, maybe a bit more mature.
Self Preserved, as I mentioned is slightly different, so people either love it equally, more or less, it kinda changes a lot for everyone.
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Time to get back into Oceansize. I sort of got into them massively for a very short time, without properly getting into them. I've been on Music for Nurses EP all week, One Out of nONE and Dead Dogs an' All Sorts are amazing.
Listening to Self Preserved at the moment, apart from the bad tracklisting (what a slow middle of album.. stupid idea), this album is killer - S/T into It's My Tail is just :O
I really like EIP too, the commercial feel is quite nice, even if Oceansize didn't like it when they then decided to do Frames.
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Music For Nurses might be my favorite EP of all time. I agree that the songs you mentioned are badass, though Paper Champion is my favorite on the EP. What I love about it is that it flows like it was one long, ~25 minute song, and for the last 3 songs for example, I didn't "hear" the separation parts until I started looking for them, they really flow well together.
Self Preserved is quite fantastic for me. I know some people complain about the two softer songs in a row, and while I see their point, it doesn't really bother me. Self Preserved was the first 'Size-album I got into, and I still have very fond memories of the album just because of that, and it's still a really good album. Songs like "Superimposer", "Build Us a Rocket Then", "Silent/Transparent", "Pine", these are just some of my favorites, but all in all I don't think the album has a single weak song.
Everyone Into Position is fantastic indeed. While it has a few more "straight forward" songs, it also has some of their best experimental stuff on it as well. "Mine Host", "Music For a Nurse", "Ornament/The Last Wrongs" for example.
And while a few songs are more "straight forward", I think they are fantastic considering that fact. "Meredith", "The Charm Offensive" and "A Homage to Shame" for example are all slightly more accessible, but amazing never the less. :)
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Bump.
British Theatre has a new EP out, containing 3 songs. Available at: https://britishtheatre.bandcamp.com/
For those who don't know, British Theatre is a project by Mike Vennart and Richard "Gambler" Ingram, both who were previously in Oceansize. (obviously!)
The EP sounds very good, has a bit of a Home & Minor-vibe to it, so a bit of Oceansize's more softer side, but some very interesting electronics. As I mentioned the EP is only 3 songs and about 14 minutes long, but I really like what I'm hearing. :)
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Just downloaded and had a listen. There's some cool electronics in there indeed. Gold bruise is favourite so far :tup
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New interview with Mike Vennart: https://www.undersong.co.uk/2012/05/15/dip-vs-mike-vennart/
Pretty much about the next British Theatre EP that will come out soon, and according to their latest facebook update it looks like it will be released on vinyl. The full length album is also on it's way, and he talks about taking the music to a live-setting.
Also more negative vibes towards Oceansize sadly. :(
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....well I'm finally listening to Frames
and it's amazing
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....well I'm finally listening to Frames
and it's amazing
Took you long enough! :D But nice to hear.
On an unrelated note, the new British Theatre EP is out (Mike Vennart and Gambler project) and it's totally amazing. Post-Rock, Electronic-ish, it's really good and I recommend it.
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I'd listened to Effloresce before and liked it, but that was like almost a year ago. My taste has changed a lot since then, and back then Frames wasn't on Spotify :lol but yeah, this is amazing, like post-rock mixed with alternative metal/rock and progressive tendencies, it's fantastic
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I think that's the reason why Oceansize are my favorite band, the way they blend Post-Rock with Progressiveness and other different influences. I think the Post-Rock element in Oceansize is one of those things that most other bands within the "modern prog" doesn't have. But cool to hear that you liked it, maybe you'll check out the entire discography? :P
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So Zant I've had Frames and the Music for Nurses EP forever, and Effloresce for about a year now. I hope to own the entire discog eventually because I too love this band, but for now what record should be my priority to get next, Everyone Into Position, Self-Preserved or another EP? I seek guidance and counsel from the Oceansize master :hefdaddy
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It's a tricky question. I would probably say Everyone Into Position first, because it has some of their best songs on it (Music For a Nurse, Ornament/The Last Wrongs and Mine Host for example), then Self Preserved (which also has some killer songs) and then going for EPs and Singles. Home & Minor is really the only true EP you have left, the others are more singles in my opinion, with 1 or 2 B-sides. Heaven Alive and New Pin shouldn't be too hard to find, but A Very Still Movement, Relapse and One Day All This Could Be Yours are more rare. If you happen to find them at a nice price I'd suggest picking them up though. I paid 20£ for my copy of "A Very Still Movement". :P
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Cool man, thanks for the tips as always :tup
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Well The Frame is definitely the best song I've heard from Oceansize.
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Well The Frame is definitely the best song I've heard from Oceansize.
It's pretty much been tied for my favorite together with Music For a Nurse for 2 years now. Just love it. "I am not the picture now, I am the frame", "time wont change a thing when i'm gone". :heart
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....well I'm finally listening to Frames
and it's amazing
Took you long enough! :D But nice to hear.
On an unrelated note, the new British Theatre EP is out (Mike Vennart and Gambler project) and it's totally amazing. Post-Rock, Electronic-ish, it's really good and I recommend it.
Totally going to buy the vinyl :D
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I've already pre-ordered it. If you haven't, then I believe it's limited (500 copies?) so might be good to order it soon. Also, you can get it signed if you write so in a comment. :P
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Frames is one of the best albums of all time. Just in case anyone had forgotten.
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I sure haven't forgotten :laugh:
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It's still my all time favorite album, so I haven't forgotten either. :hat
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I have never heard a note from this band and last weekend when I was out I picked up one of their albums in the clearance bin brand new for $2. Not sure what album it is and I haven't listened to it yet.
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Hope you will like it! :)
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Zantera, it's amazing reading your comments about Frames a few years ago, and where you are now. I know the experience from some of my favorite bands/albums (King's X, Apes and Androids to name a few), but you at 1 time thought it was their worst record.
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Haha yes. I was pretty lame back then, I never gave things time to grow and I was pretty closeminded. Now I can read old posts and just laugh really. Nowadays I give everything at least 5-10 listens before I form an opinion, so my approach to it is pretty different. :lol
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Thought I'd drop by and necro this thread because I can't get over how amazing Oceansize are and how bitter I am that they broke up, meaning that the two most promising Prog Rock bands of the 2000s broke up (Oceansize and Pure Reason Revolution)
sadface.
On the plus side I still haven't gotten into all of their material so I have the backlog of lots of B sides and Effloresce to properly listen to.
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If you still haven't heard Effloresce, you are in for a treat. Lots of great B-Sides as well, especially if you haven't heard the EP's, Music For Nurses or Home and Minor. Even if you know those, there are some other quality songs as well.
I miss Oceansize as well. They had an amazing sound of combining Post-Rock and Progressive/Alternative Rock, and the result was something really special. :heart
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I'll join in the Oceansize love :heart
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Yup, Effloresce is truly great. IMO their best, though I haven't listened to Frames all that much yet.
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Miss these guys like a long-lost relative.
"The Frame" is one of the most beautiful songs I've ever heard; has brought me to tears on more than one occasion. 10 minutes never goes by so fast.
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Only Twin is their best song. So fucking haunting.
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Effloresce was pretty cool, I can't see it beating any of the other albums though!
I have Amputee stuck in my head now, very post-rockish.
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If I would rank the albums, Effloresce would just barely be behind Frames. I would say they are equal in terms of quality, it's just a small difference in sounds really. Music For Nurses comes close since it's also a stellar release.
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Oceansize fans, I need help. I've listened to several songs, and while they're good, I'm not really blown away. What should I do?
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Don't worry about it and move on? I gave them a try and while I could appreciate what they did, I just didn't connect with them. It happens sometimes. Maybe they'll click later, maybe they won't, but I find that if a band really doesn't work with me the first time, I can't force myself to like them by listening to more just to like them. It has to come naturally.
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Maybe you're right. Other people are obviously getting something from them that I'm not, though, and that kind of bugs me.
I have occasionally forced myself to like a band so, who knows. :millahhhh
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I really didn't like them at first, but there were some moments here and there which were awesome and which kept me coming back. Now I think they're awesome.
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I really didn't like them at first, but there were some moments here and there which were awesome and which kept me coming back. Now I think they're awesome.
Pretty much this.
I think Frames just bumped itself into my top 5 albums of all time.
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Hmm, I've decided that The Frame is one of my favorite songs. Still not sure about the rest, but it's growing on me.
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Only Twin is their best song. So fucking haunting.
Probably my second favorite on that album and at least in my top 10 if not top 5, but they have so goddamn many amazing songs that I can't say it's my favorite.
Frames and Effloresce are both far superior to the other two still amazing albums but really. These guys have only a few meh songs amongst a discography composed mostly of amazing songs. Really do miss them and wish they were still putting out music.
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I still don't think they made a single song less than great, including B-sides. Too bad they broke up.
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Bump because Frames is amazing. Also, I discovered that I actually have the special edition with the DVD, so I will be watching that tonight. :D
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Frames is amazing indeed. Remains my favorite album after all these years. :)
Still bummed over them breaking up. Maybe if they just replaced Mark Heron, they would still be around.
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Is this Biffy Clyro thing any good? I'm turned off by the fact that "Biffy Clyro" may actually be the worst band name I've ever heard, but I could get over it if the music was good.
Mark Heron was the drummer, right?
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Biffy Clyro are pretty good. It's more arena rock than anything similar to Oceansize, but they have some pretty catchy tunes.
Mark was the drummer yeah.
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So today it has been exactly three years since the band announced they had broken up. I think we should honor the best band out there by listening to their music today.
I love you Oceansize. :heart
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bump.
just preordered the Red colored Frames Vinyl (limited to 100 copies) per Insideout Europe's store. Also The Perfect Element and Remedy Lane and Spock's Beard's V. Not cheap, but I fig wtf, like the maudlin of the Well vinyls, these likely will only be released and printed once, so why not?
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I also pre-ordered the red one, and grabbed The Perfect Element as well. Not cheap, but two amazing albums, and Frames especially since it's been my favorite album for several years. Never thought I would own it on vinyl, so I'm almost misty eyed now. :heart
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Also, I swear I hear Pain of Salvation's Idioglossia in Oceansize's Saturday Morning Breakfast Show.
I'm new to this forum and I found many of my favourite bands in the A-Z index of band thread, many of them I didn't expect to find in a Dream Theater Forum (Thrice, Unexpect to name a few) :) I've read this old post who noone has replied to and I must quote it! It's probably a minor reason for which I doesn't like too much Idioglossia, during a certain riff I immediately think at the Effloresce album :lol (I discovered Oceansize first)
Oceansize was my favourite band 1 or 2 year ago, now it's only one of my favourites, maybe I've listened to them too much and some choruses or epic parts don't hit me like the first times. I haven't listened to them for months and if I think at Oceansize now I think at Trail Of Fire, Savant and Only Twin, three masterpieces one after the other that very few bands has got in their discography.
Sometimes they imitate too much other bands when they want to experiment, while other bands I know maintain their identity and always sound like theirselves when they decide to try something different, for example in Sleeping Dogs And Dead Lions and in Music For A Nurse. Anyway the latter is a masterpiece and it's in my top 5 songs of them!
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bump.
Mike Vennart solo record coming soon.
https://mikevennart.tumblr.com/
Divert Crisis
Having spent nearly 5 years keeping myself occupied - and having a little too much fun - playing guitar for the beautiful Biffy Clyro, I’ve spent an awful lot of time working out exactly what kind of music I want to make. I’m happy to report that my first ‘solo’ record is on the way. Those inverted commas are important - an old friend has been of invaluable help in pushing these songs up the hill. Countless sketches were made in posh hotel rooms in every corner of the globe, and some were then given focus and cohesion in the form of vocal melodies written by my former Oceansize cohort, Steve Durose. We’re kind of like a weird-rock Elton and Bernie. The record also features keyboards from none other than Gambler, former Oceansize guy and my partner in British Theatre. Drums were beat with exceptional vigour by Dean ‘Denzel’ Pearson. His playing is so good it’s actually kind of hilarious.Upon the release of this full length album, I’ll be taking these songs - with these very men - on tour.Expect announcements of shows as and when we’re allowed to reveal them.It’s been a long journey, dreaming up even the impetus for much of this material. I’m glad i arrived at a point where i’m once again making music that i want to hear.The record itself? It is a beautiful, noisy, fuzzy, epic, heavy, stupid, annoying, confrontational journey. It is fucking ace. I can’t wait to get it out there.
MJV
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also for those who never saw, he released a track last year titled "Operate" that is pretty sweet.
https://mikevennart.bandcamp.com/track/operate
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There are three Oceansize members in this album ::)
I heard Operate, and the last British Theatre Ep was great too
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Mike Vennart's new album Pledgemusic
https://www.pledgemusic.com/projects/11279
Pledging gets you an immediate download of "Infatuate."
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I pre-ordered the signed vinyl and CD. Excited for this. :)
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oh man, this i want
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https://twitter.com/Vennart/status/574156162305814528/photo/1
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_fP_JtWQAAUK6V.jpg)
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album is titled "The Demon Joke"
https://www.pledgemusic.com/projects/11279/updates/50575
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So pumped for this.
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Pledgers just received another new track "A Weight in the Hollow"
:heart
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I'm staying away from the released songs on purpose, but man am I excited about this. :)
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wow, the new and improved version of "Operate" is tremendous.
https://www.stereogum.com/1799852/vennart-operate-stereogum-premiere/mp3s/
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Another new Vennart track, the ballad "Don't Forget the Joker"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDdpyypbaKo
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I've been avoiding all tracks, because I want to go in fresh. Almost time for the album now!
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yeah, next Monday for the preorders. (Memorial Day in the States as well)
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love a lot of The Demon Joke. "Doubt" especially.
new live video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g4Mh7_uLd0
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I feel this could grow to be AOTY
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not sure, but I seem to enjoy each song the more I hear them.
I have it at 4-stars, but I could see it going up to 4.5 certainly.
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This is just lovely :heart
It's a shame he hasn't written any longer songs (since most of the best Oceansize songs were longer), but this feels like a very good debut album. Maybe if this gets good reception, he takes some bigger risks with the follow-up.
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4.5
Man this album is good. Although I put on the Small Leaks, Sink Ships album (see my avatar) and then this and I can't say I enjoy The Demon Joke more. But I might like it more than anything else that's come out in 2015 besides Small Leaks.
Each track has moments that I enjoy, some of them rather heart-wrenching.
I suppose timing has played a part for me this week as my fiancee is having some unusual issues with her work situation, and it feels like such a transitional period for me and her (she just finished grad school last week after 3.5 years), and The Demon Joke almost feels like Vennart put a lot of energy and emotion of the time lost the last 4+ years. I can just hear it throughout many moments 'A Weight in the Hollow"..the outro namely, ..also on "Duke Fame" and "Rebirthmark"
I almost feel like an old friend has come back from long trip or something, almost like he was missing or dead, and now he's back to stay.
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I've only had time to spin it two times, but early standouts are Doubt, Infatuate (that chorus!), Don't Forget the Joker, A Weight in the Hollow and Operate. But the whole album is bloody darn good. I'd be surprised if this isn't in my top5 when I sum up 2015.
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love a lot of The Demon Joke. "Doubt" especially.
new live video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g4Mh7_uLd0
Do you guys hear a dropout about maybe halfway through the song, and then the volume comes up again? You can clearly hear in the drums...
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another interview that includes a full stream of The Demon Joke, for those who didn't preorder.
https://blogs.independent.co.uk/2015/06/15/vennart-interview-and-album-stream-%E2%80%98this-album-is-more-focused-on-vocals-and-guitar-rather-than-pounding-your-head-and-complex-riffs%E2%80%99/
love a lot of The Demon Joke. "Doubt" especially.
new live video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g4Mh7_uLd0
Do you guys hear a dropout about maybe halfway through the song, and then the volume comes up again? You can clearly hear in the drums...
I haven't but I suppose I also wonder if difference in volume levels is intentional, if i ever notice that kind of thing. I'll try and listen specifically for it soon and see.
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sweet new animated video for Operate:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xgc2B6wYilI
Mike also did a reddit AMA yesterday:
https://www.reddit.com/r/postrock/comments/3b32op/i_am_mike_vennart_oceansizebritish/
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British Theatre debut album coming/preorder campaign
https://www.pledgemusic.com/projects/british-theatre-debut-album
"Cross the Swords"
https://britishtheatre.bandcamp.com/track/cross-the-swords
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"Mastery" drops on April 29th
https://www.upsetmagazine.com/listen/british-theatre-announce-debut-album-mastery-stream-the-first-song-newman/
"Newman" is there to stream (and also comes with the preorder).
Sounds darker and almost industrial. From that article, it sounds like the stuff on this album may differ in some ways from the 2 EPs from a few years ago.
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I pre-ordered the expensive vinyl bundle, really hyped for this. :)
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preorders should have received their emails with a download link.
Also "Mastery" is streaming
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/british-theatre-mastery-album-stream-a7005886.html
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AOTY so far
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just wanted to bump this to
a) remind people to check out Target 15 the new Double Live DVD which includes Oceansize, Vennart and British Theatre music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R4tyZW92Ns
b) To let people know, Mike Vennart will be ON TOUR in AMERICA with Biffy Clyro this March/April. Even if you're just an Oceansize/Vennart fan (and not all that into Biffy Clyro or O'Brother the opener, both of who I am), you may enjoy just going to out to the show to see Mike play and perhaps meet him, have something signed, etc.
Upcoming Biffy Clyro Tour Dates & Concerts
FRI 24
Mar 2017
Las Vegas Vinyl at Hard Rock Hotel & Casino
Biffy Clyro Tickets
Las Vegas
Nevada, USA
SAT
25
Mar 2017
Phoenix Crescent Ballroom -
Phoenix
Arizona, USA
SUN
26
Mar 2017
Los Angeles Belasco Theatre - LA
Biffy Clyro Tickets
Los Angeles
California, USA
TUE
28
Mar 2017
San Francisco Fillmore -
Biffy Clyro Tickets
San Francisco
California, USA
THU
30
Mar 2017
Seattle Neptune Theatre
Biffy Clyro Tickets
Seattle
Washington, USA
SAT
01
Apr 2017
Portland Hawthorne Theatre
Biffy Clyro Tickets
Portland
Oregon, USA
TUE
04
Apr 2017
Saint Paul Turf Club
Biffy Clyro Tickets
Saint Paul
Minnesota, USA
WED
05
Apr 2017
Chicago House Of Blues -
Biffy Clyro Tickets
Chicago
Illinois, USA
FRI
07
Apr 2017
Detroit Saint Andrews Hall -
Biffy Clyro Tickets
Detroit
Michigan, USA
TUE
11
Apr 2017
Boston Paradise Rock Club
Biffy Clyro Tickets
Boston
Massachusetts, USA
THU
13
Apr 2017
New York Irving Plaza
Biffy Clyro Tickets
New York
New York, USA
FRI
14
Apr 2017
Philadelphia Theatre Of The Living Arts
Biffy Clyro Tickets
Philadelphia
Pennsylvania, USA
SAT
15
Apr 2017
Washington 9:30 Club
Biffy Clyro Tickets
Washington
District Of Columbia, USA
FRI
31
Mar 2017
Vancouver Vogue Theatre - BC
Biffy Clyro Tickets
Vancouver
British Columbia, Canada
SAT
08
Apr 2017
Toronto Phoenix Concert Theatre
Biffy Clyro Tickets
Toronto
Ontario, Canada
SUN
09
Apr 2017
Montreal Cafe Campus
Biffy Clyro Tickets
Montreal
Quebec, Canada From $192.54Find Tickets
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VINYL collectors:
Effloresce coming on Vinyl in November (remastered)
https://archive.beggars.com/oceansize-effloresce/
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Ordered!
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update on Mike Vennart's 2nd solo album from the email list.
could be a DOUBLE or MORE THAN ONE album.
Yes indeed, THE SECOND VENNART ALBUM is cometh. I finished the writing bit of it a few months back, went ahead and booked the studio and Denzel, and then a few more songs have come about. So this album will be LONG. Maybe even more than one album. And that's OK isn't it? Because whoever said less is more is a prick, right?
It promises to be a wonderful record, as eclectic and confused as anything else i've done. It's got a few more riffs than last time around, more noise, more fuzz, more echo and is far less, dare I say, diatonic. Which is to say, some of the weird chord changes will make you PUKE. In a good way.
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AOTY in 2018 :)
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bump.
the new album already has some reviews
https://twitter.com/Vennart
@ryan_prc
Oh, well if everyone else is doing it...
This new @Vennart album is fucking nuts. It's incredible. So many stand-out moments. I'm so excited to shoot some video stuff for this, but the tunes are intimidatingly good and doing them justice is making my brain do backflips.
@joelazdrums
Holy shiiiit. The new @Vennart album absolutely phenomenal. Not sure how he did it but he’s outdone himself yet again 👏🏼👌🏼 Brace yourselves, everyone
@Knifeworld
Fucks sake. This new album by @Vennart
I'm wary to apply the 'best thing he's ever done' tag on the first half a listen, but seriously...for fucks sake.
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new Vennart tune "Donkey Kong" available w/ subscribing/resubscribing to the mailing list.
https://www.vennart.com/
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Still confident this is gonna be AOTY
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I wouldn't be shocked if it was.
Donkey Kong while not dramatically different with Vennart's tendency to be schizophrenic in changing styles and dynamics within 1 song, it seems even more extensive. Yet, it still flows and works.
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I listened to the first Vennart album the other day and I enjoyed it a lot. Now I'm eager to listening to this new one, specially considering that there haven't been a lot of releases this year that have interested me or that I have liked.
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bump.
New album is titled "To Cure A Blizzard Upon A Plastic Sea"
per the email list
RADIO ONE ROCK SHOW PREMIERE!
It’s coming, i swear…
A BRAND NEW TRACK WILL BE PLAYED ON THE RADIO ONE ROCK SHOW ON JUNE 10TH! DON'T MISS IT!
Rock Show with Daniel P Carter
Here’s the annoyingly brief teaser…
Immortal Soliders
We cannot wait for you to hear this record. It’s called ‘To Cure A Blizzard Upon A Plastic Sea’ and you're gonna be so good together.
With love,
Mike Vennart
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"Immortal Soldiers"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkc9A_wDh08
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September 14th.
https://twitter.com/Vennart/status/1006104566109233154
'To Cure A Blizzard Upon A Plastic Sea' will be released on September 14th.
Pre-order soon. Stay tuned. x
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Nice. I listened to that last song you linked. It didn't make a great impression on me but I know a ton of his work didn't at first. Hopefully it will grow on me.
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I know what you mean, although the dynamic change around 3:06 I dig in the Vennart-fashion with the dramatic change in tempo and style.
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I enjoyed a lot these two singles, more than all the songs of The Demon Joke. It's a great news that the new album will be very long, it could be my AOTY if the quality of the other songs will be the same. It seems that the new album will be more experimental than The Demon Joke.
The chorus of Immortal Soldiers sounds a lot like Cardiacs, another nice surprise for me.
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Digital Preorders
https://vennart.bandcamp.com/album/to-cure-a-blizzard-upon-a-plastic-sea
(https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a1742678013_16.jpg)
1. Binary
2. Donkey Kong 05:25
3. Immortal Soldiers 04:51
4. Into The Wave
5. Friends Don't Owe
6. Spider Bones
7. Sentientia
8. That's Not Entertainment
9. Diamond Ballgag
10. Robots In Disguise
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Physical Copies and other items preorders
including a monster boxed set which includes an extra EP on cd.
https://shop.vennart.com/collections/vennart-pre-order-to-cure-a-blizzard-upon-a-plastic-sea
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Pre-ordered the boxset and a t-shirt, no doubt this will be AOTY
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Pre-ordered the boxset and a t-shirt, no doubt this will be AOTY
Based on your love for him I'm guessing he could release an album full of fart sounds and it would still be AOTY for you :lol
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Physical Copies and other items preorders
including a monster boxed set which includes an extra EP on cd.
https://shop.vennart.com/collections/vennart-pre-order-to-cure-a-blizzard-upon-a-plastic-sea
Torn about the boxset. Would love that EP CD but I just can't justify the price of the boxset with shipping....very disappointed.
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Pre-ordered the boxset and a t-shirt, no doubt this will be AOTY
Based on your love for him I'm guessing he could release an album full of fart sounds and it would still be AOTY for you :lol
I don't know about that but hype level is high. There's not a lot of bands where I'll spend whatever money it takes to get a box-set, even most artists I love I'm happy just getting a CD or a Vinyl but do wanna support Mike. :)
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Physical Copies and other items preorders
including a monster boxed set which includes an extra EP on cd.
https://shop.vennart.com/collections/vennart-pre-order-to-cure-a-blizzard-upon-a-plastic-sea
Torn about the boxset. Would love that EP CD but I just can't justify the price of the boxset with shipping....very disappointed.
I was on the fence about it yesterday, and decided to take the plunge, even with the absurd shipping.
I guess I see it like the extra cost would go to if Vennart was playing a concert in my hometown (or even like Chicago) anyway. I guess I may take a hit in my budget right now (which honestly is not a wise idea), but I may just try and compensate for it somewhere else. It's also limited, like the Feed to Feed Boxed Set which I ultimately regret not buying even at the steep price.
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Do you have by any chance, an extra copy of the Signed Demon Joke vinyl?
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no, I only have the 1 copy I bought back in 2015.
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no, I only have the 1 copy I bought back in 2015.
Ah, I have an extra copy of Feed to Feed. Was hoping we could trade but you seem to only one copy of the album.
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no, I only have the 1 copy I bought back in 2015.
Ah, I have an extra copy of Feed to Feed. Was hoping we could trade but you seem to only one copy of the album.
ahh.
I have some extra copies of some other albums, including Music For Nurses.
Yeah I would do that trade if I had a 2nd copy. Damn. Maybe there's something else we could trade instead. I'd have to know what you were looking for, and not necessarily Oceansize/Vennart related.
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new 1 hour+ long interview with Mike Vennart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffum4vDiOk4
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"Sentientia"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXI3dlvyeE8
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Can't wait for this album
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Can't wait for this album
Same. I've been listening to his debut quite a bit as I'm seeing him at ArcTangent festival next weekend :metal really good stuff and I'm hoping he might play a few Oceansize songs as well
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"Spider Bones"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKgOGi636c0
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Copeland EP coming out 1-week from Friday (9/14) as well.
https://vennart.bandcamp.com/album/copeland-ep
"Castlefordian Girls" streaming
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Vennart said that he had enough material for a double album, To Cure A Blizzard Upon A Plastic Sea did not seem that long with only 10 tracks. Good news, even though I would have been more excited if there were not 4 instrumentals out of 5.
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bump.
album is out today.
Went through it once.
I enjoy a lot of it, as mixed as the styles of some of the songs seem to be.
Donkey Kong and Spider Bones are probably the 2 I enjoy the most. The 2nd half of Diamond Ballgag is something I think I'll regularly look forward to.
I haven't heard the entire Copeland EP, but I guess it was put up to stream yesterday.
https://vennart.bandcamp.com/album/copeland-ep
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Listening to this album today for the first time, damn, pretty guud :corn
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bump.
new song Sunday, new EP next week.
This Sunday.
Radio fucking ONE.
9pm.
‘Dick Privilege’.
New EP out next week.@Radio1RockShow @BBCR1 @DanielPCarter
https://twitter.com/Vennart/status/1220691583034626048
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Always nice with new stuff! :)
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"Dick Privilege" streaming
http://vennart.com
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Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZE4JTf7qOWk&t=2s
Vinyl
https://vennart.com/music#dick-privilege
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Vennart just uploaded the final Oceansize show back in November 2010.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33yVNgL97Rc
0:00 - Intro
1:17 - Part Cardiac
5:20 - Build Us A Rocket Then...
10:12 - Unfamiliar
17:40 - New Pin
23:06 - Music For a Nurse
31:32 - It's My Tail And I'll Chase It If I Want To
35:41 - Silent/Transparent
45:22 - SuperImposer
51:11 - Pine
56:20 - Paper Champion
1:02:42 - Trail Of Fire
1:13:13 - Ornament/The Last Wrongs
ENCORE
1:26:53 - Women Who Love Men Who Love Drugs
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bump.
short solo performance film Mike Vennart made a few months ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycE1E4dnqIA&fbclid=IwAR2lV8_9Q9BTtnfer-_hJhkB4pfJ0uEwCXG8NKyT8ckE91zMFReltgapmn0
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He released a new album today and it is really good. Only one listen in but could see this become AOTY for me (though to be fair there's not that much competition this year). :)
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Yea I gave it a spin earlier and liked it. I wasn't too fussed on his last record but loved The Demon Joke. Can't say it struck me as album of the year material but I'll 100% revisit.
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He released a new album today and it is really good. Only one listen in but could see this become AOTY for me (though to be fair there's not that much competition this year). :)
Is it under something other than 'Vennart'? (I don't see it on apple music)
That being said, The Demon Joke was my favorite album a few years back.....such an underrated musician.
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Found it on bandcamp.....Holy Hell!
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He released a new album today and it is really good. Only one listen in but could see this become AOTY for me (though to be fair there's not that much competition this year). :)
Is it under something other than 'Vennart'? (I don't see it on apple music)
That being said, The Demon Joke was my favorite album a few years back.....such an underrated musician.
It's not on the streaming platforms I think, but it's on his bandcamp: https://vennart.bandcamp.com/album/in-the-dead-dead-wood
I pre-ordered the vinyl and the CD as well and got the digital download. :)
The Demon Joke was such a strong debut and To Cure a Blizzard Upon a Plastic Sea was even stronger for me. Only one listen of the new one so far but it feels the most like an Oceansize album out of the solo albums so far, a few tracks were giving me some Self Preserved vibes. The closer feels in line with the classic Oceansize closers. I don't think it will top Blizzard for me but what a great album. I think he's 3 for 3 so far, if he keeps putting out quality like this then Oceansize will soon be a distant memory.
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I blew my chance at the white/black vinyl. Not really digging the new green edition. I did pick up the cd. Having said that: :o the closing track :o
Highly recommended album. Much stronger than Blizzard imo.
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I blew my chance at the white/black vinyl. Not really digging the new green edition. I did pick up the cd. Having said that: :o the closing track :o
Highly recommended album. Much stronger than Blizzard imo.
It doesn't have songs like Spider Bones, Diamond Ballgag, Immortal Soldiers or Robots in Disguise for me to put it on Blizzard's level but it is a very good album all the way through. Closing track is a stand out though personally I don't like the 30 seconds of silence followed by a hidden track which seems a bit weird.
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Okay, now that I've had a second to digest this...I repeat, Holy Hell, what a freaking album.
As a huge Oceansize fan, I was elated when Vennart released 'The Demon Joke' a few years back. I listened to it to death, and while it very much felt like a 'solo' record, I enjoyed it immensely.
'To Cure a Blizzard,' on the other hand, just didn't do it for me. I've tried and tried (even gave it a spin this morning), but the record is just too all over the place for me. It's good, very well crafted, but a bit too 'noodley' for my taste.
That all being said, this latest release is not only my favorite of the bunch, but it is also the closest thing to an Oceansize album I've heard in years.
I mean, I get it, the dude was a huge part of that band, but there was something about the overall mix of those five guys (especially on 'Frames') that just can't be replicated...'In the Dead, Dead Wood' comes pretty damn close.
Kudos to whoever it was you said this might be their 'album of the year'.....I'm inclined to agree. For something that was apparently 'recorded quickly' (according to his liner notes), this sounds incredibly realized.
The whole thing is amazing, but as others have mentioned, the back half, especially that amazing closer, is amongst Vennart's best work to date.
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Wow I agree, it's a GREAT album!
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The variety of Blizzard is what makes it a homerun for me. You got a nice mixture of different kind of tracks. There's some guitar heavy ones, some catchy ones and a few nice slower paced ones. Heck, even ends with an epic (at that point his longest solo song at least). The artwork feels representative of the whole album where you get splashes of different ideas and it just feels very colorful. My personal favorites would be Spider Bones (that chugging guitar and that glorious chorus), Diamond Ballgag (reminds me a bit of Oceansize through the verses and also has a huge chorus), Sentientia (amazing Cardiacs vibes) and Robots in Disguise just builds really nicely to me and sounds like it could have been an Oceansize track as well. Immortal Soldiers is another gem and the first half isn't without merit either, Donkey Kong has a really fun vibe to it.
The Demon Joke was huge for me when it came out and I still consider it a great album but it doesn't quite match the other 2 overall. It has some of his best solo tracks and I love Infatuate, Don't Forget the Joker and Operate. A Weight in the Hollow is really nice too. But overall I would say it also has his weakest solo tracks of the 3 albums - though I enjoy most of them.
The strength of the new one is that it feels cohesive and consistent. Not just quality wise but it has a 'sound' to it.
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I wanted to get this done by the 10 year anniversary of the breakup but, ehh... better late than never?
The Top Twenty Best Oceansize Songs (https://youtu.be/C3AMRdN-kDQ)
if you're curious, anyways, this one was a long time coming for me lol
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I wanted to get this done by the 10 year anniversary of the breakup but, ehh... better late than never?
The Top Twenty Best Oceansize Songs (https://youtu.be/C3AMRdN-kDQ)
if you're curious, anyways, this one was a long time coming for me lol
that was pretty thorough which may have taken sometime to write? all those descriptions.
here's my 14
The Frame
Ornament/The Last Wrongs
Charm Offensive
Unfamiliar
One Day All This Could Be Yours
Paper Champion
Heaven Alive
Long Forgotten
Savant
Silent/Transparent
Amputee
Women Who Love Men Who Love Drugs
Catalyst
Oscar Acceptance Speech
I actually made a video myself about them a few years ago, although I didn't rank songs or anything, but it gives some history like you did there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebQ14vYcixs
There's not a lot on Youtube about them sadly, which maybe if more people find them, there will be.
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Some nice picks! Music For a Nurse would be my #1 but The Frame might be my #2.
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bump.
EIP vinyl reissue coming in June.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CbfmwqSspfN/
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cbc3KuDrvby/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet
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bump.
Mike Vennart was on a podcast recently..talking Oceansize, Solo, Biffy
https://open.spotify.com/episode/59dSrWQv1bLStaZRaeJ996
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I need to get around to checking out Mike's stuff. I only know him as the unofficial 4th member of Biffy. I mean, I just saw the guy in concert not too long ago in Chicago. He plays with as much energy as the other 3. There were people making fun of him, but they clearly have no idea how long he has been there. They were calling him jumpsuit guy. Even I knew that was Mike Vennart.
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yeah as he mentioned in that podcast, he's been playing with Biffy since 2010. Not new.
but yeah, definitely check out some of his solo music or British Theatre even if you already know Oceansize.
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I need to get around to checking out Mike's stuff. I only know him as the unofficial 4th member of Biffy. I mean, I just saw the guy in concert not too long ago in Chicago. He plays with as much energy as the other 3. There were people making fun of him, but they clearly have no idea how long he has been there. They were calling him jumpsuit guy. Even I knew that was Mike Vennart.
Despite my previous posts to the contrary, all three albums are, in my opinion, essential listening. In fact, at this point I'd probably choose Mike's solo work over Oceansize.
For anyone who follows him but isn't on bandcamp, he recently released an instrumental EP that is fan-freaking-tastic!
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I haven't been able to really get into Biffy Clyro - not that their music is bad or anything but for me it's sort of a Foo Fighters scenario where the music is 'fine' but it lacks any sort of edge or creative uniqueness that catches my attention and makes me go "hey this stands out from the rest". With that said I'm really happy it pays the bills for Mike and Gambler and allows them to keep making their solo music on the side.
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Happy 15th Anniversary to Frames.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cxarZhuKqE
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Still in my top3 favorite albums ever.
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Still in my top3 favorite albums ever.
It's an absolute masterpiece for sure.
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some fans may be curious about Mike Vennart's new collaboration with Simon Neil of Biffy Clyro, Empire State Bastard.
Show announced:
https://www.nme.com/news/music/biffy-clyro-frontman-simon-neils-new-side-project-empire-state-bastard-announce-first-show-3367602?fbclid=IwAR2575HT-eOF2L5EodqQ6sbnquAznY_TXGYRMpovaOsZ3GC2U_xAaBFDK9M
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Empire State Bastard sign to a Major Label?
https://twitter.com/Vennart/status/1636420277859958801
Mike Vennart🔺🔺🔻
@Vennart
Yeah, I didn’t have ‘sign to a major label at age 46’ on my bingo card but here we are
12:32 PM · Mar 16, 2023
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They signed to Roadrunner.
Vennart wrote the songs and played all the guitar. Lyrics and vocals to be handled by Simon and freakin' Dave Lombardo is handling drums.
https://bravewords.com/news/empire-state-bastard-feat-dave-lombardo-sign-to-roadrunner-records-audio-sample-streaming
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I'm curious to hear how this sounds but I'm more hyped for the next Vennart album to be honest.
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Empire State Bastard - Rivers of Heresy
debut album coming on September 1st.
Simon Neil and Mike Vennart of Biffy Clyro's new project
https://esb.lnk.to/RiversOfHeresy?eml=2023May31/6081074/6120644&etsubid=6067589
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Empire State Bastard - Rivers of Heresy
debut album coming on September 1st.
Simon Neil and Mike Vennart of Biffy Clyro's new project
https://esb.lnk.to/RiversOfHeresy?eml=2023May31/6081074/6120644&etsubid=6067589
Love Mike, and love everything he's ever released, but that is simply not for me (not into the vocals at all)
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I'm slowly getting back to things I love, so if someone knows, why isn't Frames available on Spotify?
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Empire State Bastard, British Theatre, Vennart nor many of the Oceansize releases are.
My guess is Mike Vennart doesn't want his music on there. It's too bad per he only loses potential fans because of it, but I understand why he may not want it on Spotify given it doesn't provide any income directly for him and his bands.
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He's very pro Bandcamp though
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He's very pro Bandcamp though
Which is great, but, for those of us who want to listen to his music on an app that actually works (the Bandcamp player is complete garbage), he's really making it difficult.
I've purchased multiple copies of Frames over the years, and it kinda sucks that if I want to stream it, I need to go to Youtube.
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Empire State Bastard, British Theatre, Vennart nor many of the Oceansize releases are.
I'll be honest, I have only ever listened to Frames but I adore it. What album would be a good second album to try? Whether it's on Spotify or not.
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Empire State Bastard, British Theatre, Vennart nor many of the Oceansize releases are.
I'll be honest, I have only ever listened to Frames but I adore it. What album would be a good second album to try? Whether it's on Spotify or not.
Honestly, I don't think you can go wrong with anything Oceansize put their name on...but the catalog is pretty varied.
For my money, the Vennart releases are all stellar, and that's where I'd start. I feel like his first and third releases are more in line with with the moodiness of Frames, while the Blizzard album is pure prog glory...that said, all three are pretty flawless.
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Empire State Bastard, British Theatre, Vennart nor many of the Oceansize releases are.
I'll be honest, I have only ever listened to Frames but I adore it. What album would be a good second album to try? Whether it's on Spotify or not.
I would go with Everyone Into Position and Self-Preserved after that. The Vennart solo catalog is pretty solid as well.
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Frames and Self Preserved
https://oceansize.bandcamp.com/
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Frames and Self Preserved
https://oceansize.bandcamp.com/
That's awesome news!
Frames is, in my opinion, their high-water mark, but Self-Preserved... was a worthwhile follow-up that I've grown more fond of over the years.
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Bump for Empire State Bastard (the band with Mike Vennart and Simon Neil from Biffy Clyro and Dave Lombardo).
What do y’all think of them? I had quite low expectations because usually supergroups seem just for fun, as a way to ‘do something else for a change’.
I’m quite impressed actually! Looking forward to their record.
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I'll give it a spin when it releases and I have high hopes for it but I'm a lot more hyped for the next Vennart solo album whenever that comes around.
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for those who want to seek it out.
The EIP Feed-2-Feed performance is on Prog Rock Dock on YouTube right now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHJ6OK3n7Ek
damn, I wish I could have been there...
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Oceansize Feed to Feed reissue coming including Vinyl
https://twitter.com/Vennart/status/1714333724467478667
Mike Vennart🔺🔺🔻
@Vennart
Working on the most lavish and delightful reissues of these very special nights.
Yes indeed, vinyl.
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New Vennart album should be coming in a few months per the latesr newsletter
"In other news, the 4th ‘Vennart’ album will be with you in the coming months. It feels very much like a sequel to ‘In The Dead, Dead Wood’, in that it's fucking ace. You can hear all the demos and exclusive tracks from the album on my Patreon now. There's at least 3 hours of unreleased material on there now."
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I will buy Feed to Feed on vinyl as well as the next Vennart solo for sure.
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something is coming tomorrow. "Fractal"?
https://www.instagram.com/p/C2KZvkjiCa2/
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"Fractal"..some Oceansize vibes on this 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UsHraqzZ54
MAXIMUM VOLUME YIELDS MAXIMUM RESULTS.
From the forthcoming album, 'Forgiveness & The Grain'.
Available February 2nd 2024.
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I don't buy as much CD/Vinyl as I used to but a new Vennart album will be one of the hardest buys of the year for me. Not gonna listen to anything before the album is out, I'll gladly buy whatever the most expensive package for this album turns out to be.
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I'm loving this new song.
Honestly, at this point, I rate Vennart's solo releases higher than his work with Oceansize. Fortunately, I am lucky to have it all, but I am beyond happy he has continued to make music on his own.
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That was powerful stuff. Loved it.
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"3 Syllables"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GCJlmfP5j4
From the album, 'Forgiveness & The Grain' available on February 2nd 2024.
only on Bandcamp and Vennart.com.