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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: Birch Boy on November 28, 2010, 04:22:59 PM
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I know there are a few rogue Tool threads about certain albums including the future one, but I figured I'd make a definitive thread akin to the "THE" threads.
Alright so I just got my copy of Lateralus in the mail and I'm really excited to finally own a physical copy because the packaging is awesome. Also, there's a huge new entry on Tool's website with a nice question and answer e-mail type-up that confirms a 2011 United States East Coast tour!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here's the whole thing:
For the past couple of weeks several of the band members have been tirelessly jamming, writing and arranging new music for a forthcoming album (as Maynard finishes up the current APC tour and tends to certain zymurgical pursuits). Contrary to any rumors that might be circulating out there, Adam has not been in England for several weeks hunting pheasant, grouse, partridge, guinea fowl, woodcock, common snipe or any other commonly hunted galliformes. Forget about what you read in the "Upland Journal" - he hasn't been slogging through the pine-clad dales of Yorkshire, nor with shotgun in hand in the mist-enshrouded reed-beds of Cornwall, seeking his quarry. There are no castle hotels, flushing dogs, or unpredictable weather. Thanks to a battery-powered hypnobioscope (a truly remarkable device that I found at a flee-market in Pacoima!), I also know that he's currently not over in Merry Ole investigating Stonehenge, woolly rhinos, or hoaxing agro-glyphs for future comic book issues. Nor has he been studying oil painting and climbing Big Ben whilst eating a McDonald's Big Mac. Same goes for learning the proper way of eating a Mcvities' biscuit, or the buttery goodness of any Hobnobs, shortbread or Tim Tams with his cup of Earl Grey in the warmth of an ensorcelled peat fire in some rustic country house. If you saw someone who looked like Adam sipping ale served by grey-bobbed fustilugs in pubs with names like "The Three-Legged Mare", "Bucket of Blood", "Slug and Lettuce" or "The Hairy Lemon", it wasn't Tool's guitarist. So don't email me about him checking out the crinkum-crankum in any British pub with its real ale, good food, strange, cheerful staff and a very nice cat. No, like I've said - he's been working with his nanoguitar on a complex piece of music whose working title is "Floccinaucinihilipilification." Likewise, take it from this fanfaron that Danny hasn't been going to Lakers home games in his orange Lambo, flying in Gates' burnt-ends for Sunday K.C. Chiefs games (in some futile alexipharmic hope!), attending meetings with Evil Joe Barresi about a possible Volto recording project, purchasing a ribbon-controller and other vintage trifles for his modular monstrosities, nor engaging in strange mesonoxian rituals. As with Adam, the Tool drummer has been focusing all his energy on the new Tool material. Ditto for Justin. Forget anything you've heard about his renting out the SilverLake Cha Cha Lounge for a private party celebrating his 40th birthday, attempting to get forty of his friends to skydive (only to be cancelled due to bad weather conditions... and certain mesonoxian rituals on my part) or refurbishing a 17th-century sailing vessel. As sure as the retrieved Roswell saucer is hidden in an old Tootsie Roll factory in New Jersey, no tequila shots katzenjammer is going to keep him from developing those innovative bass parts!
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Q: "Blair, this is a TOOL website right? Well how about actually posting something TOOL related...anything would be nice. I mean I know Maynard makes wine and that's great and all but, what's going on with the band? Shit man, make something up if you have to, but people in New Orleans can't very well drive to Cali to see VOLTO or go to a wine signing so please, give us some news! Sincerely, Joseph."
A: From what I've been told, the band is planning on doing a 'secret' concert really soon in New Orleans. This is going to be a massive production with a horizontal holographic surround sound system based on the two-dimensional Fourier transform (or something like that). Besides the digitally created phase inversion of sonic holography, there will be lighting effects that include Fairchild plasma optoelectronics and the most advanced (legal) liquid-nitrogen-cooled multicolored laser system available - all of which will be filmed for a live DVD. Supposedly, the set list for this three-hour extravaganza will include MANY songs that the band hasn't played in years, including the "Lateralus" album in its entirety. Additionally, some of the guest performers include Robert Fripp, Jimmy Page, Terry Bossio, Tori Amos, and, of course, Harry Connick Jr. During the encore (a zydeco-rendition of "Hooker With A Penis"), Danny will summon Marie Laveau from the dead in order to reveal true 13 Phase Unity Merkaba Lightbody Activation (thus doing away with the need for any backstage passes!). After the show, as a tribute to all their fans in NOLA, the band will throw a spectacular backstage party, with tuxedoed and top-hatted zombies serving complimentary Dixie Beer, shots of absinthe, and iced champagne laced with Gib's "Bottled Hell." There will also be plenty of special Tool JAMBALAYA, red beans & rice, Jujube-studded flaming Bananas Foster and glittering Beignets! Volto! to support. And when it's all over, in order to keep the live DVD under wraps, all those in attendance will be zapped by a memory-erasing device (Acme Neuralyzer) that was borrowed from Level 7 of the underground facility at Archuleta Mesa in Dulce, New Mexico. Therefore, Joseph, it might be that you've already saw the show of all Tool shows. Even met the band members! Might that explain those Jujubes in your pocket?
Q: "Hello, I would like to know if Tool plans to go on another tour sometime soon? My boyfriend and I live in Virginia and he LOVES Tool! Tool is the only band he will go see in concert. He is one of the Best guys in the world who like many has had a bad year due to lack of work. I would love to surprise him with the opportunity to go to one of your shows and have been checking your site off and on for the past year. Everything has been out west and beyond. I hope you can respond back with good news. I look forward to hearing back from you."
A: Although I don't have any specific details, look for some American tour dates in 2011. East coast venues (possibly including Virginia) are a good possibility.
Q: "Is it a possibility that there will be posters with Adams artwork available at the Australian concerts? Cheers, Matt."
A: Yes, I would expect to see them at the merch booths for each venue. There might also be some left over SIGNED 2010 WEST COAST/CANADA TOUR POSTERS (and shirts) for sale as specialty items in the TOOLARMY SHOPPING BAZAAR in the near future.
Q: "Hello. Are you guys ever coming to San Antonio? That would really make my day! huh.... I guess I'm your youngest fan since I'm fourteen."
A: As a card-carrying member of "The Benevolent Order of Armadillos", I believe that they will (SOMEDAY), although hopefully by then the San Antonio "curse" will be lifted without further banishing rites, etc.
Q: "Will the band be releasing and official vinyl version of "10,000 Days" at all? And would they consider doing a re-issue of "Aenima" on vinyl for those of us who can't afford an original?"
A: I don't know about Aenima, but I'm fairly certain that "10,000 Days" vinyl will be released soon - this because I've recently seen some test-pressings at Danny's manse.
Q: "Hello! My name is ********* and I am enquiring about an all access pass to either Big Day Out Gold Coast on Jan 23rd or Brisbane Entertainment Centre on Jan 24th. I truly know how bloody cheeky this sounds, I actually feel quite bad about enquiring in the first place, but there is a valid reason. I'm not simply a die-hard who wants to meet the band (although I can't rule myself out of that category, either!). I have a ticket already to both of these events (albeit crappy ones). I will however, be 37 weeks pregnant (less than 3 weeks from popping), and can't bear the thought of missing out on the shows while the guys are in Oz. Big Day Out is going to be an interesting scenario because it is exactly that... a HUGE day out, sweltering sun, and no seating. Perfect for a woman the size of a house and about to bust at the guts. My ticket to the entertainment centre is in a silver reserved seat (only took 15 mins for the gold reserved to sell out while I was waiting patiently in line), and is up a MILLION flights of stairs. Again, perfect for the fatty. I'm not even sure who I should be contacting about this issue... but you seemed a good first try. Perhaps you can point me in the right direction? Again, I know I'm being cheeky, but it's worth asking in any case."
A: Banged up, by Jingo! Sounds like someone cracked a fat without a franger. Well, that's wonderful, dear! Nothing like ankle bitters and carpet grubs. Little nipper's gonna be a great croc hunter, I reckon. Though I'm currently busier than a one-armed taxi driver with crabs, here's what I suggest. Once you enter the BDO, with all those bloody yobbos and gutfuls of piss in your way, hoof it - flat out like a lizard drinking - towards the main stage area. Because it's right hot, be sure to take a breather at the first billabong (no worries about that bunyip - it's not as aggro as you've been told). Continue on, watching out for salties, dingos and such... The mozzies and kookas will be bad, but it's the same for every bastard and his dog. Once you've reached the third humpy, sneak around the first jumbuck acting the raw prawn (that's security, but there's no need to fart a crowbar) until you see a fella there with a face like a festered pickle in a brown Akubra. (He'll probably also be wearing a necklace of shark's teeth and other Aussie foofaraw.) Ask him to take you back to where the ambos, garbos, kangas, and divvy vans are parked. Back where the barbies are smoking shrimp for the band and crew. Here, the stage manager should be obvious as a pimple on a pumpkin. He's the fellow buzzing around like a blue-arsed fly. Tell him that your mate, BMB, sent you, and Bob's your uncle! He should be able to give you a seat that fits like a honeymoon cock.
HAPPY TRAILS
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2011 United States East Coast tour[/size]!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :victorydance:
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I would like to go for the show itself, but I doubt I would be able to go.
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ok...BUT
Tool in reverse = nearly "lol" so huh
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I would fly to Boston or New York to see Tool.
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2011 United States East Coast tour[/size]!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :victorydance:
Q: "Hello, I would like to know if Tool plans to go on another tour sometime soon? My boyfriend and I live in Virginia and he LOVES Tool! Tool is the only band he will go see in concert. He is one of the Best guys in the world who like many has had a bad year due to lack of work. I would love to surprise him with the opportunity to go to one of your shows and have been checking your site off and on for the past year. Everything has been out west and beyond. I hope you can respond back with good news. I look forward to hearing back from you."
A: Although I don't have any specific details, look for some American tour dates in 2011. East coast venues (possibly including Virginia) are a good possibility.
You have a girlfriend Ryan?
:neverusethis:
Also, I'm listening to Lateralus right now.
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Nope, no girlfriend. If I had a girlfriend that like Tool, DTF would probably hear about it. :lol
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My moms favourite band is Tool. ;D
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The only downside with Tool is that it takes 5 years to make an album.
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Honestly, I don't mind that. 4 strong albums > 10 mediocre ones. They can take all the time they want because they've delivered all 4 times. Makes it that much more special when a new album finally comes out. I would hate for every band to operate like Tool does in terms of making new music, but for some reason I like that Tool has a small discography.
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Gadough wins again.
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The only downside with Tool is that it takes 5 years to make an album.
Downside? Nah. They have a method to their madness. I'd rather get a master piece every once in a while instead of an average album every year or two.
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New Tool fan signing in here. Listened to Undertow and Lateralus and thoroughly enjoyed both. Getting into Aenima slowly. I just gotta say, Lateralus is such a tight album with a lot of contents. 78 minutes of musical bliss. Undertow is highly enjoyable too.
My favorite songs are The Grudge, Lateralus, Prison Sex, Sober, Eulogy, Vicarious, and Parabol/Parabola.
Also, Schism is overrated.
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I tend to forgot how amazing Lateralus is if I don't listen to it for a while, but then when I do I always :o at it by the end of The Grudge, and then throughout. Perfect album imo.
AND WHAT NO UK TOUR GRAAAAGH >:(
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The main riff in Schism is one of my favorite things ever.
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The 'cold silence' bit is not only one of my favourite lyrics ever, but probably my favourite Maynard vocal moment, which I'm now going to rank for no good reason. :P
1. 'cold silence'
2. The Grudge scream
3. Right In Two choruses
4. End scream in Eulogy
5. VIIIIICARIOUSLY IIIIIIIIIIIIIII
I :heart Maynard.
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i guess i will go when they come to new york. no big deal.
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Well, personally i feel like Tool making an album is taking longer then it should.
Normally i don't care much about time, but when you see a lot of other groups you like, releasing albums more frequently (that are still very high standard), it just feels very long with 5 years between albums.
I'm not sure how to put it in the right way, because i don't want it to sound wrong but...
Even though i like Tool, i've always felt that they aren't very productive, and even though the result is great (both Lateralus and 10k days are fantastic).
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The only downside with Tool is that it takes 10 years to make an album.
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Tool's upside >>>>>>>> Their downside
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Well, it all depends on how good the next album will be IMO.
I'm still a bit shattered towards 10 000 days, Lateralus still remains their huge masterpiece, meanwhile i've never cared for Aenima or Undertow.
I know a lot of you praise Aenima, but i don't enjoy the vocals being buried under instrumental-parts i don't enjoy. :P
A good example of this would be Stinkfist, which i don't find anything good at all in, even though i can agree that the live-version was slightly better.
So looking at it from my PoV (only REALLY digging Lateralus in fully), 5 years between albums is a long time if you don't enjoy much of the stuff.
For those of you digging all of the discography, i totally get if you find a decade between albums worth it. :>
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I seriously think Tool would still be one of my top bands if they'd only ever released either Aenima or Lateralus so I can't really comment. :lol
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Wouldn't a better name for this be 'The Tool Shed'?
:neverusethis:
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That actually is the name of their fansite. :lol
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Dropping by to say that Lateralus is one of the best albums ever. Every 'big' (non interlude) song is awesome. And the interlude/suite ones really flow well together. "Faaip De Oaid" scared the SHIT out of me when I first heard it in the dark in the middle of the night with my back turned to an open ground-level window.
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I'd say Lateralus is the best album ever. Once that hoover or whatever it is kicks in at the start of The Grudge, it's like a mental cue to put yourself in a different state of mind, and then by the time you're at 'Faaip De Oiad' you're basically in a trance. I haven't had a full listen through in months, I'm saving it for when I can listen to the vinyl LOUDLY.
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It's definitely in my top 5 albums, maybe top 3. I love it.
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Oh wait actually, it's been surpassed in my favourite albums by any DMB one, remember Letters? :neverusethis:
But yeah, I think Aenima might be at the point where they're almost interchangeable as my top album now, it took forever to grow on me but now it's every bit Lateralus' equal, I just slightly prefer the mix/progginess of Lateralus.
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Oh wait actually, it's been surpassed in my favourite albums by any DMB one, remember Letters? :neverusethis:
:yeahright
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My interpretation of Lateralus is that it's about the trials and tribulations of a DMT (or any spiritual/hallucinogenic experience) trip (since Tool looooves DMT... they even hired an artist who's passion is DMT). All the lyrics seem to point to letting yourself go ("We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no one's been," "Twirling round with this familiar parable. Spinning, weaving round each new experience. Recognize this as a holy gift and celebrate this chance to be alive and breathing," "And as I pull my head out I am without one doubt. You wanna peer down here survey my narcissism I must crucify the ego before it's far too late. I pray the light lifts me out
Before I pine away."). All of those lyrics represent a trip; the loss of ego that people feel when they experience drugs like DMT and LSD that make them better people, and the confusion that the light lifts them out of, and obviously the going where no one's been part is drug-related. And the opening lyrics to "Lateralus" I believe is related to the birth ("Black and white are all I see in my infancy") and the "Red and yellow then came to be, reaching out to me, lets me see" part is related to the DMT experience and how it opens your world and lets you see previously unkown things.
Or something like that.
EDIT: For more evidence, see: artwork:
(https://www.realmusicforum.com/wp-content/2009/06/lateralus_inside.jpg)
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I suppose based on the band writing those songs it's more likely about drugs, but I always interpreted it as being more about a general kind of transcendentalism.
Like with the title track, I always though the 'going where noone's been' was just about an altered state of consciousness, not necessarily through drugs, and the spiralling out just seems like a furthering of our knowledge/understanding of the universe to me. I think I read somewhere that Maynard said the whole colours theme was to do with North American Aboriginals as well, but I'm not sure. But again, it's more likely about drugs. :lol
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And yeah, Alex Grey's art is really amazing on Lateralus especially.
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Aenima is in my top 5 albums of all time.
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Aenima is in my top 5 albums of all time.
Not Lateralus? (I'd not disagree with you at all if this was the case anyway, Aenima is as good if not better)
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Aenima is in my top 5 albums of all time.
Not Lateralus? (I'd not disagree with you at all if this was the case anyway, Aenima is as good if not better)
Nope. Aenima >>>> Lateralus
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My interpretation of Lateralus is that it's about the trials and tribulations of a DMT (or any spiritual/hallucinogenic experience) trip (since Tool looooves DMT... they even hired an artist who's passion is DMT). All the lyrics seem to point to letting yourself go ("We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no one's been," "Twirling round with this familiar parable. Spinning, weaving round each new experience. Recognize this as a holy gift and celebrate this chance to be alive and breathing," "And as I pull my head out I am without one doubt. You wanna peer down here survey my narcissism I must crucify the ego before it's far too late. I pray the light lifts me out
Before I pine away."). All of those lyrics represent a trip; the loss of ego that people feel when they experience drugs like DMT and LSD that make them better people, and the confusion that the light lifts them out of, and obviously the going where no one's been part is drug-related. And the opening lyrics to "Lateralus" I believe is related to the birth ("Black and white are all I see in my infancy") and the "Red and yellow then came to be, reaching out to me, lets me see" part is related to the DMT experience and how it opens your world and lets you see previously unkown things.
Or something like that.
EDIT: For more evidence, see: artwork:
(https://www.realmusicforum.com/wp-content/2009/06/lateralus_inside.jpg)
I agree with you. Some things just seem to be about life in general, how their is more than we can see/imagine. It's like a relationship, not with your significant other, but with yourself, or that relationship with the world, life, love in general.
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Holy shit. Was anybody aware of this?
Three separate tracks from the latest Tool album can be assembled into a different one -- it's like Voltron, only with progressive metal songs instead of progressive metal robots (seriously, those guys had a woman pilot before most airlines). But plenty of bands do multi-part songs, so there's nothing special about it, right?
Well, the difference is that, in this case, you don't get the full song by doing something as mundane as playing one track after the other -- you get it by changing the order and playing them at the same time.
By themselves, the songs seem completely different: "10,000 Days" (11:13) is a long prog-rock number, "Wings for Marie" (6:11) is a quiet song that builds up into a crescendo, and "Viginti Tres" (5:02) is just a bunch of weird noises. 6:11 plus 5:02 adds up to 11:13 -- that's because you're supposed to put "Viginti Tres" and "Wings for Marie" together (in that order) and play them at the same time as "10,000 Days."
Sobriety is optional, but not recommended.
If that sounds too complicated for you, check out this demonstration at YouTube-Doubler. You'll notice that the weird sounds from "Viginti Tres" seem to be in sync with the melody of "10,000 Days." That demonstration doesn't include "Wings for Marie", though, which has the most impressive part: Near the end, the vocals from both songs alternate almost perfectly, forming completely different lyrics.
The band has never acknowledged any of this, but if you listen to the full song it's pretty obvious that they did this intentionally ... which is both mind-blowingly awesome and a little bit insane.
Here's a link with all parts (https://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1964159914964761664#). Anybody could have done that with ambient noises, but the lyrical content of Wings/10k is fantastic. Holy shit, these guys are sharp. Yet another ringing endorsement for hallucinogens.
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I knew that. It is pretty awesome.
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That is so damn cool. I had no idea, but it kind of makes sense.
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Yeah I heard that before. It's awesome, especially when sobriety isn't in the equation.
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That sounds awesome! :tup Listening to the link now, pretty cool! I don't think you need to get high to appreciate music though...
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5. VIIIIICARIOUSLY IIIIIIIIIIIIIII
Fuckin' love this part
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That's pretty awesome. Tool are batshit insane but it comes through in cool ways.
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Apparently, if you play any Tool album at the same time as watching Inception, your brain will melt.
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Apparently, if you play any Tool album at the same time as watching Inception, your brain will melt.
Actually I heard it makes the eargasms 500x more intense.
Then your brain melts.
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Apparently, if you play any Tool album at the same time as watching Inception, your brain will melt.
Actually I heard it makes the eargasms 500x more intense.
Then your brain melts.
That might be true, I'm not sure. I'm too scared to do it.
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(https://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/12263/batman-kenny-south-park-10947088-686-433.jpg)
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Holy shit. Was anybody aware of this?
Three separate tracks from the latest Tool album can be assembled into a different one -- it's like Voltron, only with progressive metal songs instead of progressive metal robots (seriously, those guys had a woman pilot before most airlines). But plenty of bands do multi-part songs, so there's nothing special about it, right?
Well, the difference is that, in this case, you don't get the full song by doing something as mundane as playing one track after the other -- you get it by changing the order and playing them at the same time.
By themselves, the songs seem completely different: "10,000 Days" (11:13) is a long prog-rock number, "Wings for Marie" (6:11) is a quiet song that builds up into a crescendo, and "Viginti Tres" (5:02) is just a bunch of weird noises. 6:11 plus 5:02 adds up to 11:13 -- that's because you're supposed to put "Viginti Tres" and "Wings for Marie" together (in that order) and play them at the same time as "10,000 Days."
Sobriety is optional, but not recommended.
If that sounds too complicated for you, check out this demonstration at YouTube-Doubler. You'll notice that the weird sounds from "Viginti Tres" seem to be in sync with the melody of "10,000 Days." That demonstration doesn't include "Wings for Marie", though, which has the most impressive part: Near the end, the vocals from both songs alternate almost perfectly, forming completely different lyrics.
The band has never acknowledged any of this, but if you listen to the full song it's pretty obvious that they did this intentionally ... which is both mind-blowingly awesome and a little bit insane.
Here's a link with all parts (https://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1964159914964761664#). Anybody could have done that with ambient noises, but the lyrical content of Wings/10k is fantastic. Holy shit, these guys are sharp. Yet another ringing endorsement for hallucinogens.
That is amazing.
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I heard that if you actually believe any of the stupid rumours about synching songs and golden gifts or anything then you're a bit of a fanboy because all the examples I've heard sound *terrible*. Especially the "secret" running order of Lateralus, where instead of songs flowing into each other they suddenly cut off, or fade in and then cut to something else. :facepalm:
And that 10,000 days thing is a MESS. That is all.
A MESS.
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The only downside with Tool is that it takes 5 years to make an album.
That, and they have the single WORST website of any band i've ever seen.
No band news ever - it's always " a friend of Danny is having a barbeque "
or
" Adam has been looking at rocks "
They don't even have any mention of their most recent album on the site :facepalm:
Terrible site.
And 5 years between albums is ridiculous.
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I love how Tool fuck with their fans like that. :lol
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The only downside with Tool is that it takes 5 years to make an album.
That, and they have the single WORST website of any band i've ever seen.
No band news ever - it's always " a friend of Danny is having a barbeque "
or
" Adam has been looking at rocks "
They don't even have any mention of their most recent album on the site :facepalm:
Terrible site.
And 5 years between albums is ridiculous.
Why is this important in the slightest? I don't think I've ever checked a band's website for news of an upcoming album. When the album comes out, it comes out.
Having said that, I guess this is Tool, the band for which everyone seems to deem it necessary to wait incessantly for even the slightest hint of news about a new album, even though everyone knows that, being Tool, it's gonna take fucking ages and that, being Tool, they're not gonna give you clear information about it anyway.
Seriously, do people just never learn when it comes to this band?
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^Me too its funny at times.
The 10,000 Days mash up is alright though it doesn't seem to be intentional. The lateralus thing on the other hand, is amazing. The way people have done it doesn't make sense yes its fibbonaci but maybe that's the blueprint. 6 and 7 are beginning. Mantra goes in the middle of Ticks and Leeches, Disposition/Reflection/Triad are all connected and need to be one song, Eon Blue is at the end of Reflection
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I'm pretty confused as to how anyone can say it doesn't seem to be intentional.
6:11 plus 5:02 adds up to 11:13
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the vocals from both songs alternate almost perfectly, forming completely different lyrics
is some pretty mad coincidence if it's not intentional.
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And 5 years between albums is ridiculous.
Honestly, I don't mind that. 4 strong albums > 10 mediocre ones. They can take all the time they want because they've delivered all 4 times. Makes it that much more special when a new album finally comes out. I would hate for every band to operate like Tool does in terms of making new music, but for some reason I like that Tool has a small discography.
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I'm pretty confused as to how anyone can say it doesn't seem to be intentional.
6:11 plus 5:02 adds up to 11:13
plus
the vocals from both songs alternate almost perfectly, forming completely different lyrics
is some pretty mad coincidence if it's not intentional.
That or they made Viginti Tres 5:02 just to make up the time so people would *think* theres a connection :biggrin:
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Viginiti Tres would have been simple. They could have just removed various sound effects from the completed version of 10k and called it a song. Having WfM match up with the last 6 minutes of 10k is a completely different story.
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I've listened a few times. If it was intentional it certainly sounds bad to my ears. Funnily enough, like two songs playing at once.
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Listening right now, it sounds damn good to me. I love how the beat's completely changed in the beginning in the second half.
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I,ve heard it and done both plenty of times, and the Lateralus one is better. 10,000 Days was okay some parts didn't sounded cluttered.
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Oh my God. I just got a physical copy of 10,000 days recently, and as such I'm giving the album a serious full listen for the first time. Wings for Marie and 10,000 Days just brought me to my knees. So damn amazing.
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GIVE ME MY... GIVE ME MY WIIIIIIIIIIIINGS :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
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I love his delivery of that line. There's so much emotion built up when he repeats "give me my" that you expect the word "wings" to be belted out with full force, but instead it's sung in a surprisingly calm and peaceful way. I was not expecting that at all, but it works perfectly.
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My favorite part is the Hey ho's. Also, the verse before "your going home"
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I'm new to these guys and I've got to say they're amazing. I loved Lateralus and today I exercised with Aenima on my Player. Feels good man.
They are working/planning to work on a new album currently, ain't they?
TO ASCEND YOU MUST DIE
YOU MUST BE CRUCIFIED
FOR OUR SINS AND OUR LIES
GOOD
BYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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The first time I heard that 'GOOOODBYEEE!' I was like 'that's pretty cool.' And then it KEPT GOING for the whole outro and I was like 'Maynard is God.' Aenima is a really, really great exercise album, I've run with it so many times that I visualise the park I run in when I hear it sometimes now. :lol
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Don't get TOO excited about reading stuff like "Tool are working on a new album", because normally it takes 5 years from that before you get the album. :lol
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:metal
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Don't get TOO excited about reading stuff like "Tool are working on a new album", because normally it takes 5 years from that before you get the album. :lol
2006+5=2011 :metal
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Man, it just feels like yesterday when I remember racing down to the shops on the release date of 10,000 Days. Ah, good times.
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My friend and I are saving up all our stems to make special tea and drink it before we see Tool... :hat
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Holy shit. Look at Neil Peart in this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lpVjXwAfm0) and be amazed at the resemblance to Danny Carey. SAME PERSON OMG.
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GOD DAMNIT WHY AM I ALWAYS THE THREAD KILLER?
ANYWAY, THEY NEED TO ANNOUNCE EASTERN UNITED STATES TOUR DATES. SOON.
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The only downside with Tool is that it takes 5 years to make an album.
Downside? Nah. They have a method to their madness. I'd rather get a master piece every once in a while instead of an average album every year or two.
Yep, definitely agree.
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I really wish we'd get some sort of update on how the new album is going. Or at least, you know, them telling us they are working on it.
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THEY NEED TO ANNOUNCE EASTERN UNITED STATES TOUR DATES. SOON.
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I really wish we'd get some sort of update on how the new album is going. Or at least, you know, them telling us they are working on it.
They have just toured Australia and I saw them two weeks ago. Not sure if they're doing that much with a new album yet.
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DANNY will be performing double duty on this last day in February, first working on new musical arrangements with TOOL and then being the guest drummer at tonight's MONDAY NIGHT JAMMMZ at the BAKED POTATO jazz club in STUDIO CITY.
:caffeine:
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Woo. Still don't think we're getting the album before 2012.
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Woo. Still don't think we're getting the album before 2012.
This.
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Going to this tomorrow night: https://secure.cosm.org/np/clients/cosm/event.jsp?event=464
You guys should be really jealous. Bringing my copy of Lateralus and a silver sharpie. :metal
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Holy. Wap Falls is like 15 minutes from my house.
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GO. YOU'LL SEE ALEX GREY.
AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, ME.
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Ressurection.
Tool are the masters of the build up and the pay off in songs.
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Lateralus and Aenima are already enough to make them one of the best bands ever.
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I'm not a massive Tool fan, but I do enjoy a lot of their music.
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Lateralus and Aenima are already enough to make them one of the best bands ever.
Agree with this.
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Aenima never really clicked for me, but both Lateralus and 10000 Days are fantastic. :tup
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Aenima's the longest an album's ever taken to click with me, but it's also the biggest payoff for perseverance I've had EVER.
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Ressurection.
Tool are the masters of the build up and the pay off in songs.
The song 10,000 Days is the greatest example of this. The climax of that song is easily my favourite moment in music ever. Ever. Of all time.
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Ressurection.
Tool are the masters of the build up and the pay off in songs.
The song 10,000 Days is the greatest example of this. The climax of that song is easily my favourite moment in music ever. Ever. Of all time.
If you love it so fuckin much why dontcha change your handle to 10088 days?! :P
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Because I don't want to be Numbers.
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My favourite moment in music is the pause at the beginning of the final riff of Lateralus, where after every instrument's been going batshit insane for a few minutes it drops out to just the guitar doing that simple but somehow mindblowing riff by itself for a few seconds, before everything crashes back in with an explosion and it's the best thing ever hyperbole but true.
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Ressurection.
Tool are the masters of dynamics.
ya, theyre up there as one of the best.
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Am I the only who finds Undertow (album) just a little boring? Also, my favorite Tool moment is that riff in The Patient, you all probably know what I am talking about, also "AND IM PRAAYING FOR RAIN...".
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I'm not to fond of the first two albums, but my god Lateralus and 10,000 Days are so amazing.
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Funny how Lateralus (the song) only just clicked with me now. Used to think it was just an average song, now it's my second favourite next to 10 000 Days.
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Funny how Lateralus (the song) only just clicked with me now. Used to think it was just an average song, now it's my second favourite next to 10 000 Days.
How the hell could you think of it as only average?
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Funny how Lateralus (the song) only just clicked with me now. Used to think it was just an average song, now it's my second favourite next to 10 000 Days.
I almost flipped over my desk because of this.
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ALEX MAD!
ALEX SMASH!
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I agree with whoever said Undertow is pretty boring. I just can't listen to it all the way through, even though I admire 4 Degrees.
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EVERY time someone posts in this topic I get my hopes up thinking news about the next Tool album has been announced.
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EVERY time someone posts in this topic I get my hopes up thinking news about the next Tool album has been announced.
Fucking THIS
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Funny how Lateralus (the song) only just clicked with me now. Used to think it was just an average song, now it's my second favourite next to 10 000 Days.
How the hell could you think of it as only average?
Iunno.
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I agree with whoever said Undertow is pretty boring. I just can't listen to it all the way through...
as much as i love the band, i'm quite anti-undertow as well. it's kinda got this progressive grunge thing happening. no thanx.
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EVERY time someone posts in this topic I get my hopes up thinking news about the next Tool album has been announced.
Fucking THIS
A couple of months ago - the big news was " They're Writing".
Don't hold your breath for that release announcement.... :facepalm:
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EVERY time someone posts in this topic I get my hopes up thinking news about the next Tool album has been announced.
Fucking THIS
A couple of months ago - the big news was " They're Writing".
Don't hold your breath for that release announcement.... :facepalm:
Isn't the release date May 21, 2012?
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I thought that was one of Blair's " jokes " ::)
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DUYEDE JUST LISTEN TOO PEIURCUP:IBNE TREE
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^ I love Fear Of A Blank Planet & Nil Recurring.
What Happens Now is a particular favourite off the EP & Anesthetize is a great song too.
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A few days ago, The Grudge clicked with me (again). Such a great song, and the last two or three minutes are especially awesome.
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Danny Carey is just a beast on the last 3 minutes of "The Grudge"
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Danny Carey is just a beast on the last 3 minutes of "The Grudge"
Ticks & Leeches = FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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I can play the 7/8 intro to that song on the toms and dbl bass but it's the 4/4 verses with the syncopated hi-hats thats tricky :biggrin:
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EVERY time someone posts in this topic I get my hopes up thinking news about the next Tool album has been announced.
Fucking THIS
A couple of months ago - the big news was " They're Writing".
Don't hold your breath for that release announcement.... :facepalm:
Isn't the release date May 21, 2012?
May 21, 2012=5.21.12 the way Americans order dates.
5th album having something to do with 2112
I know. I didn't think so either :P
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Danny Carey is easily one of my favorite drummers. He plays drums like no one else. Probably the best user of toms I've seen.
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Dude why do you never post anymore? :heart
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(https://img841.imageshack.us/img841/1767/toolyuno.jpg)
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Dude, don't worry. Just another decade of waiting to go.
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(https://img841.imageshack.us/img841/1767/toolyuno.jpg)
Mastodon
2006 Blood Mountain.
2009 Crack The Skye.
2010 Jonah Hex EP.
2011 Live At The Aragon DVD / CD & The Hunter.
Tool
2006 10,000 Days
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If you wanna talk being productive, take The Dear Hunter for example:
2006 - Act I (8 songs)
2007 - Act II (15 songs)
2009 - Act III (14 songs)
2010 - Branches EP (3 songs)
2011 - The Color Spectrum (36 songs)
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But are they all equally good if not better ?
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But are they all equally good if not better ?
Oh yes they are.
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NO ONE POST IN THIS FUCKING TOPIC AGAIN UNLESS YOU HAVE NEWS.
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But are they all equally good if not better ?
Oh yes they are.
The Three acts are fucking awesome. The Color Spectrum is ranks from really good to average to meh.
Tool has 4 borderline flawless albums and a badass EP.
And if you REALLY want productive (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckethead_discography)
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As much as I like Tool, I wouldn't agree that Undertow and Aenima are flawless, I don't really care for them personally. :P
As for Lateralus and 10 000 Days, they are both really good, despite the latter having some filler like Lipan Conjuring. :lol
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As much as I like Tool, I wouldn't agree that Undertow and Aenima are flawless, I don't really care for them personally. :P
As for Lateralus and 10 000 Days, they are both really good, despite the latter having some filler like Lipan Conjuring. :lol
I find myself agreeing with you a lot on music lately... Not sure how good that is :huh:
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But are they all equally good if not better ?
The Dear Hunter is one of the best bands of the 00's. PERIOD.
Also Aenima is the best Tool album.
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As much as I like Tool, I wouldn't agree that Undertow and Aenima are flawless, I don't really care for them personally. :P
As for Lateralus and 10 000 Days, they are both really good, despite the latter having some filler like Lipan Conjuring. :lol
I find myself agreeing with you a lot on music lately... Not sure how good that is :huh:
It's good obviously. ^_^
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(https://www.fourtheye.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/net-of-being.jpg)
I have this framed on the wall in my office.
:metal
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As much as I like Tool, I wouldn't agree that Undertow and Aenima are flawless, I don't really care for them personally. :P
As for Lateralus and 10 000 Days, they are both really good, despite the latter having some filler like Lipan Conjuring. :lol
Oh boy I am shocked
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lol opinions
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As much as I like Tool, I wouldn't agree that Undertow and Aenima are flawless, I don't really care for them personally. :P
As for Lateralus and 10 000 Days, they are both really good, despite the latter having some filler like Lipan Conjuring. :lol
Oh boy I am shocked
I do think Aenima is a pretty darn good album though, but I think their songwriting improved on Lateralus.
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Eulogy is their second best song.
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Opinions right.
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As much as I like Tool, I wouldn't agree that Undertow and Aenima are flawless, I don't really care for them personally. :P
As for Lateralus and 10 000 Days, they are both really good, despite the latter having some filler like Lipan Conjuring. :lol
10k Days isn't that great, I'd probably rank it 3 overall (with undertow and lateralus above it). It just seemed like it was put together and was the first time I said "meh tool"
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2011 United States East Coast tour[/size]!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :victorydance:
Damn east coasters, at least I saw them already.
But I do need to see them again,
I NEED TO FEED ONCE MORE.
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Rating?
Lateralus
10,000 Days
Aeaeaenima
Undertow
Opiate
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2011 United States East Coast tour[/size]!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :victorydance:
Damn east coasters, at least I saw them already.
But I do need to see them again,
I NEED TO FEED ONCE MORE.
*suckles Maynard's head*
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Rating?
Lateralus
10,000 Days
Aeaeaenima
Undertow
Opiate
Exact same for me.
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Rating?
Lateralus
10,000 Days
Aeaeaenima
Undertow
Opiate
My ranking exactly.
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All this Tool talk is getting me anxious for a new album.
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All this Tool talk is getting me anxious for a new album.
Pull up a chair, we've been here a while.
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Can someone hold my spot I've been here waiting for a really long time but man do I have to urinate something wicked.
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YOU KNOW THE RULES NO ONE LEAVES UNTIL WE GET THE ALBUM.
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:sadpanda: *wets underpants*
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Not long now...
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Only 1 more year to go !! I predict the next album will have 6 songs on it.
Undertow - 10 songs
Aenima - 9 songs
Lateralus - 8 songs
10,000 Days - 7 songs
Next album = 6 songs . And will be out Summer 2012. A grand total of 1 year spent on every song . :biggrin:
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The only way anyone can go to a Tool show is by spending a fuck ton of money and getting yelled at by an intoxicatated and/or inebriated asshole.
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Only 1 more year to go !! I predict the next album will have 6 songs on it.
Undertow - 10 songs
Aenima - 9 songs
Lateralus - 8 songs
10,000 Days - 7 songs
Next album = 6 songs . And will be out Summer 2012. A grand total of 1 year spent on every song . :biggrin:
Fuck, I wish they would release a full length album comprised of 6 songs. Their longer songs are typically their finest. I hope to science that we get a cohesive album with an overall point of focus, rather than the 10kdays style of several different topics. (Not detracting anything from 10kdays, though, amazing album)
Rating
Lateralus
10,000 Days
Aeaeaenima
Salival
Undertow
Opiate
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How much do tickets for TOOL normally cost? Assuming the seats are reasonable.
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I paid like $150 for mine, but I was 3 rows back, dead center (it was badass). And I didn't get to buy them from ticketmaster, the damn scalpers ruin Tool's ticket prices. The band has spoke about the problem, but can't really do much about it.
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The only way anyone can go to a Tool show is by spending a fuck ton of money and getting yelled at by an intoxicatated and/or inebriated asshole.
Fuck ton = $276 per scalped ticket
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The only way anyone can go to a Tool show is by spending a fuck ton of money and getting yelled at by an intoxicatated and/or inebriated asshole.
Fuck ton = $276 per scalped ticket
Yeah that's a lot of cash, but Tool live is seriously the best show out there right now, IMO.
I've seen many bands live, and no one puts on a spectacle like Tool. Actually, the only other group I can think of that maybe came close was the LiTS era NIN.
That sucks that some of you seem to have had bad experiences at the shows with drunk people. I have never found that to be the case, but maybe I am just lucky and haven't been bothered by it.
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Oh this guy wasn't just drunk. He was HIGH AS SHIT. And was being a general asshole the entire show.
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Wow, 276... That is quite a bit
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How does everyone say Aenima ?
I've heard from many people that they say "ON IMMA" ..
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"ON IMMA" ..
This is correct.
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Only 1 more year to go !! I predict the next album will have 6 songs on it.
Undertow - 10 songs
Aenima - 9 songs
Lateralus - 8 songs
10,000 Days - 7 songs
Next album = 6 songs . And will be out Summer 2012. A grand total of 1 year spent on every song . :biggrin:
In that case, I can't wait for their hour-long epic 6 albums from now. That is, if I am still alive in 30 years.
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Danny Carey will be 80 years old :biggrin:
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How does everyone say Aenima ?
I've heard from many people that they say "ON IMMA" ..
To piss everyone off, and because I like the way it sounds, I just pronounce it as "Ay-en-imma".
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The only way anyone can go to a Tool show is by spending a fuck ton of money and getting yelled at by an intoxicatated and/or inebriated asshole.
Fuck ton = $276 per scalped ticket
Jesus! And I thought $90 for the Red Rocks show was a lot.
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The only way anyone can go to a Tool show is by spending a fuck ton of money and getting yelled at by an intoxicatated and/or inebriated asshole.
Fuck ton = $276 per scalped ticket
Jesus! And I thought $90 for the Red Rocks show was a lot.
To be fair, Cynicalamity's mother paid for the tickets and we just paid her back (and I still am...) by doing a metric shit ton and a half of yard work. Including the day of the show.
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It doesn't matter who paid, that's crazy!
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But whatever it was Tool. A borderline once in a life time show depending the circumstance.
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It's gotten to the point where I've forgotten about how much I want a new album and I subconsciously am glad about this fact, then I come here and see this thread and I'm immediately sorry I entered the thread at all.
News or GTFO. Not really. ButsrslyAriGold.
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I'm kinda surprised at the feelings towards Aenima here, I'd say it's pretty much a perfect album, it's joint top with Lateralus for me. The actual songs on Aenima are all at least 9/10s for me (most being 10s) and the filler doesn't really drag it down imo.
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I really like Aenima, but it's all like a big blur for me.
Personally I think the 'style' or whatever that Tool had on that album, I feel like the vocals got pretty drowned in the mix, and that as a whole, it was pretty hard to distinguish certain sounds over each other, it all blended together very good.
Another thing, there aren't really any songs on Aenima that stands out to me.
Yeah, songs like Eulogy and the title-track are great, but all my favorite are placed on Lateralus or 10k Days. :P
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I guess that's a fair enough complaint, I love the style personally (it really suits the lyrics/artwork perfectly) but I can see it being annoying to some.
As for standout tracks, I would say that literally every non-filler song, except Hooker With a Penis, is standout material to me. Lateralus just edges Aenima as the better album overall, but Aenima has their best song-for-song offering imo. It's got Pushit!
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I don't quite remember, but doesn't Aenima have a couple more 'filler'-songs then Lateralus has?
I might be wrong, but I just remember thinking that "Die Eier Von Satan" was probably the most lol song I have ever heard. :lol
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My only complaint regarding Lateralus is that it stops being god tier amazing after the title track, regressing to just amazing.
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Or that they took 5 years to make a hugely inferior album.
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I disagree, but whatever.
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Wow, I also viewed Disposition/Reflection/Triad on the exact same tier as the rest of the disc. Such an epic way to close the epic album.
Reflection specifically is way up there for me in Tool's canon overall.
(https://www.fourtheye.net/images/poland/Tool%20Poland.jpg)
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Ahhh a TOOL thread! I really can't rate the albums because they're so unique in their own way. Especially on their early days of Opiate and Undertow. Not a single TOOL album sounds remotely similar to Opiate, it's a very raw sound but very unique in its very own way. I still enjoy Jerkoff as much now as I did back in the 90's. Undertow was their breakthrough album but the best songs are just about forgotten because of sober and prison sex. Swamp song is definitely my favorite track from that album. Ćnima (so easy to find that ć character on my iPhone lol) was downright angry and intricate at the same time, it is to this day my personal favorite. Lateralus and 10k days were definitely their proggiest and well-produced. Lateralus and right in two respectively are my favorite songs from that album.
And now here's a few videos I took when I saw them live back in January (Honolulu, Hawaii). I wish I could if recorded the whole concert, but security was tight expelling people caught recording, and my phone didn't have enough space for the whole thing anyway. Oh yeah don't miss lateralus/Orion with Kirk Hammet on guitar. Enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ70NOpsyE8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYeirlBxORM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAucsakcyJU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7YDdyKsfys&feature=youtube_gdata_player
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kn7_wLcebk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXC3cb2knhE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZFMW_bUQQE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Credulous at best, your desire to believe in angels in the hearts of men.
Pull your head on out your hippy haze and give a listen.
Shouldn't have to say it all again.
The universe is hostile. so Impersonal. devour to survive.
So it is. So it's always been.
:metal :metal :metal
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HEY GUYS I HAVE SOME NEWS ABOUT THE NEW ALBUM:
It's not out yet.
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You got me. Darn you!
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HEY GUYS I HAVE SOME NEWS ABOUT THE NEW ALBUM:
It's not out yet.
(https://files.sharenator.com/oh_you_RE_Masturbational_Motivationals_RE_Dear_Blank-s447x335-180525.jpg)
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TOOL NEWSLETTER
NOVEMBER 2011, E.V.
At a time when the headlines are dominated by frenzied Amish beard clippers, whooping cough and Occupy Wall Street (Forget that – how about Occupy the Playboy Mansion, all you 69 per centers!), rather than discuss the thawing permafrost, Sandusky, or baffling Gamma ray bursts, how about some exciting TOOL-RELATED NEWS… That’s right – while most of you were still digesting your Thanksgiving bird, highly acclaimed recording engineer and producer (not to mention vintage candy aficionado!) ‘Evil’ Joe Barresi was seated at the mixing console in the band’s home studio – the only evidence of the holiday being a bowl of pumpkin-pie cheesecake Kit Kats that was placed there by one of the girls from Tool’s business management. Believe it! Hours after your cranberry sauce was still jiggling, members of the band had gathered at the loft to begin tracking. For these VOLTO! sessions, the place looked like a gear-junkie’s wet-dream, and with the ‘evil’ one deftly punching in bars on the remote control, as the night wore on, song after song –in all their musical complexity – were being captured on tape (Yes, tape! For this record, a Studer A827 “Gold Edition” analog tape recorder had been trucked in.) By the time of my much-anticipated arrival on Tuesday, almost all of the tracks were finished, as were the holiday confections. With the loft now littered with empty Tommy’s burger wrappers and spent cans of Red Bull, as guitar riffs processed through an antique Echoplex wailed over the KRKs, stories were being told about Danny recently making a daring escape in his orange Lambo from Mastros steakhouse in Beverly Hills (where a side of lobster mashed potatoes goes for $30.00) – the entire thing caught by TMZ’s cameras… although the crowd cheers are probably still lying on the proverbial cutting room floor. And now, with you being down to your last leftover turkey sandwich, with but a few overdubs to add, you can bet that the boys will be back at it tonight…
But what about TOOL’s new album, you ask?
Are they still making progress with the writing and arranging sessions? Will they be working during the holidays as a Gamma ray-mutated pterosaur tramples on foreclosed gingerbread houses? Absolutely! (for the quintillionth time), only with a festive pear-cinnamon cider replacing the Volto! Red Bulls. Actually, I’ve even seen part of a video from the band’s next record – albeit this occurred during a strange time-slip that I recently experienced while pushing a shopping cart down one of the aisles at my local Ralphs (a place where cracks in paratime somehow seem to happen regularly). While looking for *********, I saw some guy wearing a programmable display (UV) TOOL ‘video’ tee-shirt. Glancing at it, I could hear the haunting sonic structure of one of the new songs accompanied by the bizarre, vibrant, Adam Jones imagery (yes, on the soft, flexible ‘screen’ material – which, of course, was made from the best quality cloth-plants). Wait a quark-flipping minute! Had I pushed the screeching cart many years into the future? Entranced by the dude’s shirt, I watched as purplish amoeba-like things with a tangle of feelers morphed into intensely-colorful creatures. These were frightening, writhing chimeras and other mind-boggling bio-oddities of a demented (er… creative) mind. Were these some kind of “Saucer Wisdom” inspired piezoplastic receivers transmitted from Adam’s thought-forms, or had he simply recorded one of his favorite nightmares?
(Had one of the band members themselves appeared in the video, I would have checked to see if any hair was blowing in the wind – just one of several tell-tale signs of a recorded dream.) Either way, how amazing were the images! (Cooler than watching a night janitor at McDonalds on fully charged quantum dot batteries in the flicker of strobe lights).
As I continued to observe the bedizening mental cartoons – snippets of some intricately detailed hyper-animation - I noticed that the guy wearing the Tool shirt was NOW accompanied by band-member semblances (decoy band-member semblances, I wondered?) Recognizing me, the Danny ‘semblance’ raised a half-full polyglass of some glittering black eagletail. As I was about to acknowledge this wonderful example of encrypted electromagnetic vibrations, I quickly found myself back at the Ralphs of November, 2011 e.v. And guess what happened next? You guessed it. I’ve heard of MIB types attempting to eat their green Jell-o with a straw, or even sticking a fork into a glass of Dr. Pepper. Hell, I’ve even seen one of the black hat boojums pay for a Whopper at Burger King with a handful of gleaming silver dollars – not to mention the dude who ordered a “Coke and Olives” at my neighborhood pub. But what this MIB-type did was really a dead giveaway. How so? Well, while at the checkout counter, along with his groceries, ‘he’ PURCHASED (there on the spot) Ralphs gift cards for $20.00 each (PLUS activation fees), which he wanted to use to pay for everything. Noticing the puzzled look on the cashier’s face, I quickly left my stuff on the counter and hurried out of the place… wanting desperately to get back to my enchanted green ball… I mean, to my apartment…
Finally, to address all those Tool tour rumors. A few days ago, I met with the band’s management in order to discuss this very thing. Although I wasn’t sure if there was any validity to the rumors, I nevertheless told their manager that a small winter tour might not be such a bad thing. However, given my age, I didn’t think that I’d be able to attend too many shows as a guest (at least, I wouldn’t be able to attend them with the same vigor that I used to). I certainly didn’t want to travel on the tour bus, as the bunks hurt my back. Also, my excessive snoring might keep some of the early riser band members awake at night (particularly Danny and Justin). And then there’s the issue of the bad weather – both here and in Europe. Some dates in Australia would be okay, but with the recent discovery of an albino trapdoor spider in the land DownUnder, I’d have to rule that out, too. Perhaps some shows in the southern states might be best. Maybe even Texas? How about just a show or two right here in Los Angeles? That would certainly make things easier for me. I might even be able to party like I used to in the good old touring days. Better yet, still, what about an electromagnetic radiation transmitted (as theorized by Rudy Rucker, among others) – reconstituted/manifested Tool concert (including personality wave guests with all-access laminates) anywhere on the entire planet? Now, that would be great!.. Especially with those programmable display tee-shirts available at the Merch booth…
HAPPY TRAILS
BLAIR
JUSTIN
DANNY
MAYNARD
ADAM
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Am I the only person who finds every fucking newsletter extremely hard to follow and am immediately disinterested? It happens every god damn time too.
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The mystique stopped being cool a long time ago, yeah.
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The only thing longer than that news letter is the time span between records.
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Am I the only person who finds every fucking newsletter extremely hard to follow and am immediately disinterested? It happens every god damn time too.
Totally agree
The mystique stopped being cool a long time ago, yeah.
and Totally agree
Its getting really old and even though I'm a huge Tool fan, I took one look at it and didn't ever bother reading it. Its even hard to skim. I don't even like going on Tool's website, because of stuff like that.
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Am I the only person who finds every fucking newsletter extremely hard to follow and am immediately disinterested? It happens every god damn time too.
The guy who writes it is just an a-hole who gets a kick out of pissing off Tool fans with irrelevant BS and weird tangents. Seriously, no other band's news section is like this.
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Update: Even Blabbermouth had a hard time figuring out what the guy was rambling on about. Now it appears it's Danny's band Volto that's recording and not Tool. If I were him, I wouldn't waste my time doing anything in that band when Tool haven't released new material in quite a long time. Same thing for Maynard and Puscifer. Anyway, here's the updated story:
https://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=166732&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter (https://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=166732&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)
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Just shut the fuck up and make a new album.
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Just shut the fuck up and make a new album.
This, JUST BRRRRING OUT SUM NEW TOOL EFFING TOOL ALREADY
And interpreting the message... Some guys started recording. And some stuff about Volto and dinosaurs.
Entranced by the dude’s shirt, I watched as purplish amoeba-like things with a tangle of feelers morphed into intensely-colorful creatures. These were frightening, writhing chimeras and other mind-boggling bio-oddities of a demented (er… creative) mind. Were these some kind of “Saucer Wisdom” inspired piezoplastic receivers transmitted from Adam’s thought-forms, or had he simply recorded one of his favorite nightmares?
wat
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Man, I want the new album so bad. I understand that they take their time to craft great records, but goddamn! hurry up!
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Apparently 2 dates popped up and disappeared on ticketmaster. They were Tucson 1/17/12 and Albuquerque 1/18/12. Tickets onsale 12/16/11. If true I'm going
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Probably just vineyard tours.
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Am I the only person who finds every fucking newsletter extremely hard to follow and am immediately disinterested? It happens every god damn time too.
Totally agree
The mystique stopped being cool a long time ago, yeah.
and Totally agree
Its getting really old and even though I'm a huge Tool fan, I took one look at it and didn't ever bother reading it. Its even hard to skim. I don't even like going on Tool's website, because of stuff like that.
I don't pay attention to any Tool news anymore, when the album is out, I'll check it out.
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Apparently it is true. I just got a radio stations email saying they're coming here. I am happy, I missed them once and they played Third Eye, not gonna miss them this time
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QF7g_6D-5U&feature=related
Mind = Blown
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QF7g_6D-5U&feature=related
Mind = Blown
You should check the videos I posted on the previous page. I have the whole Lateralus/Orion performance, plus a few other songs.
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Ah sorry, didn't realise it was old news. Still blew me away though, never in a thousand years would I expect anything like that from Tool.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QF7g_6D-5U&feature=related
Mind = Blown
:metal
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Ah sorry, didn't realise it was old news. Still blew me away though, never in a thousand years would I expect anything like that from Tool.
Not that old of news. Not many knew that Tool toured early this year. Also this is not the first time Kirk jumps on stage with them. Back in '06 he played Sober with them.
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Was he drunk this time ? :D :biggrin:
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Was he drunk this time ? :D :biggrin:
Hahaha! I remember that was the rumor because apparently he played terribly. I missed out because in '06 they did two shows on a Friday and a Saturday. Kirk played on the Friday show and I had tickets for Saturday.
Both shows we're awesome I enjoyed the 06 show more because I was still on the 10k days new album high during that time.
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Back in '06 he played Sober with them.
Was he drunk this time ? :D :biggrin:
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I laughed
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Oh snap! :facepalm:
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https://www.guitarworld.com/tool-planning-winter-tour-2012
1/14 Reno, NV – Reno Events Center
1/15 Las Vegas, NV – Mandalay Bay Events Center
1/17 Tucson, AZ – Tucson Arena
1/18 Albuquerque, NM – Tingley Coliseum
1/20 Grand Prairie, TX – Verizon Theatre
1/24 Toledo, OH – Huntington Center
1/25 Toronto, ON – Air Canada Centre
1/26 London, ON – John Labatt Centre
1/28 Boston, MA – TD Garden
1/29 Camden, NJ – Susquehanna Bank Center
1/31 Uncasville, CT – Mohegan Sun Arena
2/8 Duluth, GA – Gwinnett Arena
So far. I'm hitting up the CT show, finally I get to see one of their shows!
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This page needs a photo:
(https://gregsaltiel.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Tool_Band.jpg)
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https://www.guitarworld.com/tool-planning-winter-tour-2012
1/14 Reno, NV – Reno Events Center
1/15 Las Vegas, NV – Mandalay Bay Events Center
1/17 Tucson, AZ – Tucson Arena
1/18 Albuquerque, NM – Tingley Coliseum
1/20 Grand Prairie, TX – Verizon Theatre
1/24 Toledo, OH – Huntington Center
1/25 Toronto, ON – Air Canada Centre
1/26 London, ON – John Labatt Centre
1/28 Boston, MA – TD Garden
1/29 Camden, NJ – Susquehanna Bank Center
1/31 Uncasville, CT – Mohegan Sun Arena
2/8 Duluth, GA – Gwinnett Arena
So far. I'm hitting up the CT show, finally I get to see one of their shows!
I will be at the Philly show. This will be my first time.
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Man, I wish they'd throw in a Chicago date. I wanna see them again real bad. You guys are gonna experience quite a show!
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I'm guessing a repeat of their last tour. Maybe one or two songs swapped out. I'm also guessing it'll be one of those going-through-the-motions tours for Maynard. I'd say a lesser version of what we've already seen. I'll still be there, though.
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I'm also guessing it'll be one of those going-through-the-motions tours for Maynard. I'd say a lesser version of what we've already seen.
I was thinking a lot about this too. If he phones this in, I'm really going to be disappointed, but I'm still going to be optimistic.
Sometimes I feel like MJK looks at Tool the way that Devin Townsend looks at Strapping Young Lad. Like he's grown out of his Tool phase and wants to pursue newer musical directions, such as Puscifer.
Its like every single MJK or Devin Townsend interview, they are asked a million times about Tool or Strapping and they both respond as if they have moved on.
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I don't quite get it with MJK, as I see it.. he would almost be a nobody without Tool.
Don't get me wrong, I think he's a talented dude who fits perfectly into Tool, and I would be sad if he left.
However, in comparison to Devin Townsend, I think Devy could do pretty much whatever he wants to, maybe some of the fame he got with SYL made it easier for him to do what he wanted with his solo-stuff, but he's skilled enough (as a guitarist, songwriter and singer) to do pretty much everything.
With MJK I feel that he is more limited, he does write some great lyrics, but most of the other members in Tool write the badass music itself, and I haven't been able to find MJK's other work that interesting.
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I don't quite get it with MJK, as I see it.. he would almost be a nobody without Tool.
Don't get me wrong, I think he's a talented dude who fits perfectly into Tool, and I would be sad if he left.
However, in comparison to Devin Townsend, I think Devy could do pretty much whatever he wants to, maybe some of the fame he got with SYL made it easier for him to do what he wanted with his solo-stuff, but he's skilled enough (as a guitarist, songwriter and singer) to do pretty much everything.
With MJK I feel that he is more limited, he does write some great lyrics, but most of the other members in Tool write the badass music itself, and I haven't been able to find MJK's other work that interesting.
Dude, Maynard essentially is Tool! They might write the music but it's the lyrics and the ridiculous, unique vocal performances that make them stand out imo.
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I only just started listening to his Puscifer stuff after getting put off by the album artwork and overall image, but it's pretty fucking good. Found it interesting how he has a song called "Moma Sed" which is very similar to Mama Said by Metallica.
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... the Metallica song is really awful. not seeing the comparison. do they have a similar acoustic riff or something? same key? the lyrics certainly aren't alike.
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I only just started listening to his Puscifer stuff after getting put off by the album artwork and overall image, but it's pretty fucking good. Found it interesting how he has a song called "Moma Sed" which is very similar to Mama Said by Metallica.
For the longest time, I never took Puscifer seriously, and just for the hell of it I picked up Conditions of My parole and I honestly
love it.
My favorite tracks are the title track, Oceans and Horizons.
It really is a solid album and quite a pleasant surprise.
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Some of Maynard's solo work is alright. I've listened to most of the material he's put out in the last few years, and have enjoyed the majority of what I've heard. However, it still doesn't satisfy me like Tool's music does. His voice and lyrics are great, but keep in mind that he has been interviewed and basically said that the other 3 guys write almost all of the material, then he may rearrange it somewhat, and layer his vocals on top of the almost fully perfected pieces right before the recording. It isn't so much that Tool isn't Tool without Maynard, as it is that Maynard doesn't seem to reach his full potential without Tool.
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I need to vent for a second.
Just got my tickets for the January show and I just want to say that ticketmaster/livenation sucks.
I had 3 computers out at exactly 10am when the tickets went on sale and selected 2 tickets at best available/ any price, and
This is what popped up on all 3 computers.
(https://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x459/phoenix87x/Screenshot2011-12-16at103313AM.png)
I tried every variation and still no luck.
after waiting 40 minutes of trying multiple times I was able to finally get tickets. Almost the very last row of the venue and the tickets were still in the most expensive tier, $89 dollars.
super lame, but at least I will get to see them. :tup
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I need to vent for a second.
Just got my tickets for the January show and I just want to say that ticketmaster/livenation sucks.
I had 3 computers out at exactly 10am when the tickets went on sale and selected 2 tickets at best available/ any price, and
This is what popped up on all 3 computers.
(https://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x459/phoenix87x/Screenshot2011-12-16at103313AM.png)
I tried every variation and still no luck.
after waiting 40 minutes of trying multiple times I was able to finally get tickets. Almost the very last row of the venue and the tickets were still in the most expensive tier, $89 dollars.
super lame, but at least I will get to see them.
Damn. They're $75 here
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I need to vent for a second.
Just got my tickets for the January show and I just want to say that ticketmaster/livenation sucks.
I had 3 computers out at exactly 10am when the tickets went on sale and selected 2 tickets at best available/ any price, and
This is what popped up on all 3 computers.
(https://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x459/phoenix87x/Screenshot2011-12-16at103313AM.png)
I tried every variation and still no luck.
after waiting 40 minutes of trying multiple times I was able to finally get tickets. Almost the very last row of the venue and the tickets were still in the most expensive tier, $89 dollars.
super lame, but at least I will get to see them. :tup
Had the same experience, but with a non-TM outlet. With AXS, they dump everybody into a virtual waiting room, and then randomly assign slots in the line. With 4 computers, it was 10 minutes before any of us got an opportunity to buy tickets, and we're in nosebleed, as well. The other three never got the opportunity to buy our required 4 seats.
Strangely, I was actually cursing that we didn't have TM, for a change. At least with TM, they can accommodate all the traffic without having to queue everybody up for half an hour.
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Got mine. No GA, it's floor seats but I got Row 13 seats 11-10 and 14-15. Not bad I think, now can't wait.
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This is my first post here in prolly over a year... funny how I'm so excited to see Tool that I came back on the site to see if they were being discussed and the thread that I made is on the front page. :metal
Anyway,
FEBRUARY 1ST CAN'T COME SOON ENOUGH SECTION 120 ME AND TEN FRIENDS ARE GOING HOLY FUCK IT WILL BE AMAZING.
Carry on.
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Fuck you dude. Post here more frequently ;)
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Wow, tickets have been on sale for 48 hours and my venue is already SOLD OUT.
Not that I'm surprised, but I'm just glad I didn't dilly daddle.
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fuck, tickets sold out within 30 minutes of going on sale....oh well, maybe I'll see symphony x :P
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...oh well, maybe I'll see symphony x :P
I'm so sorry for you man. :-\
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...oh well, maybe I'll see symphony x :P
I'm so sorry for you man. :-\
:lol
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UK dates please. Haven't seen these guys since 2006.
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UK dates please. Haven't seen these guys ever.
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UK dates please. Haven't seen these guys ever.
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UK dates please. Haven't seen these guys ever.
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I have yet to see ticket info for the Charlotte show :(
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I have yet to see ticket info for the Charlotte show :(
Is there a Charlotte show listed?
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Yep, February 4th.
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Just had a repeat occurrence of the last Friday onsale for the recently announced second Dallas date. Despite having five computers in the queue, only two of them were offered tickets, and in both cases they were upper 400s. This is actually the first time I've lamented not having TM sale the tickets. While I think they suck, I've usually been able to do alright.
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Anybody else going to see these guys in Boston? I was luckily able to get a ticket before they sold out!
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Hello fellow DTF members!
So, I am a relatively new TOOL fan, and I especially like Lateralus and Aenima. I have been listening to them a lot the last couple weeks and so I was excited to see that TOOL would be coming to Bojangles Coliseum in Charlotte, NC on Feb. 4, only 2 hours from my house. I just had a couple questions which I hoped you good people could help answer for me.
1. How much have you guys paid for tool concert tickets in the past?
2. Is the tool show really as incredible as most say it is? What was your experience like?
3. There aren't a lot of good seats left in the box office, so I am planning on buying from the re-sale service of ticketliquidator. Have you ever used this before, had any problems with it?
Needless to say, I am very excited about this show and I would greatly appreciate any answers/advice.
Thanks!
Seneca
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I've only seen Tool once (two summers ago) but I'll gladly answer these questions for you mang.
1. My friend and I ended up getting re-sale tickets for about $276 each (we got really, really fucking good seats.)
2. Yes, Tool's live performance is absolutely out of this world. You can't quite compare it to anything else, since they really do go above and beyond to make the show an experience. When I saw them, they had all the elements I had hoped for. Cool visuals and LASERS, excellent sounding quality and a very ominous stage presence.
3. Never used Ticketliquidator. We used whatever site that Ticketmaster sponsors for getting third party tickets. Hence the outrageous price we payed.
Goodluck on getting tickets mang, and I hope you have a good time. Tool are one of the best concerts I've ever been to.
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...oh well, maybe I'll see symphony x :P
I'm so sorry for you man. :-\
but symphony x are better than a 4 outta 10 live...or at least i assume they are. they better be, fuck, as i plan on getting tix
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^Seen 'em both. Even though I saw Symphony X play at this place in Dallas called Bronco Bowl (a hybrid bowling alley/pool hall/music venue which is about twice the size of the House of Blues in New Orleans by itself not counting the area occupied by the bowling alley and pool hall), I liked it much better than Tool which I saw at the Centroplex in Baton Rouge, a more traditional arena where the LSU Tigers basketball team plays.
I would've liked it better had they not had all the pageantry between songs. I know that's what makes some folks really dig it but it got very old very quickly (for me at least) to have constant synthesizer-dominant "atmospheric" interludes that have nothing to do with any of their actual music while lasers and smoke aimlessly meander about. Add to that, the fact that they played not even one song from either Undertow or Opiate yet had at least 20 minutes of show time to waste on the LSD-pandering nonsense and it was $60 right down the drain for this cat.
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I've only seen Tool once (two summers ago) but I'll gladly answer these questions for you mang.
1. My friend and I ended up getting re-sale tickets for about $276 each (we got really, really fucking good seats.)
2. Yes, Tool's live performance is absolutely out of this world. You can't quite compare it to anything else, since they really do go above and beyond to make the show an experience. When I saw them, they had all the elements I had hoped for. Cool visuals and LASERS, excellent sounding quality and a very ominous stage presence.
3. Never used Ticketliquidator. We used whatever site that Ticketmaster sponsors for getting third party tickets. Hence the outrageous price we payed.
Goodluck on getting tickets mang, and I hope you have a good time. Tool are one of the best concerts I've ever been to.
Thanks a lot for the reply! I am really looking forward to this.
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Wow. That's quite a setlist.
Hooker With A Penis
Jambi
Stinkfist
Ticks & Leeches
Pushit
Schism
Intension
Forty-Six & 2
Lateralus
The Pot
Ćnema
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Wow. That's quite a setlist.
Hooker With A Penis
Jambi
Stinkfist
Ticks & Leeches
Pushit
Schism
Intension
Forty-Six & 2
Lateralus
The Pot
Ćnema
Yeah, no shit. Can't wait.
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I have yet to see ticket info for the Charlotte show :(
Check stubhub. Charlotte show tickets are about $80 ("worst ones") on there. (Of course, you're still going to a Tool show, so "worst" is virtually nonexistant).
Charlotte is only 2 hrs away from me. I hope I get to go.
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Wow. That's quite a setlist.
Hooker With A Penis
Jambi
Stinkfist
Ticks & Leeches
Pushit
Schism
Intension
Forty-Six & 2
Lateralus
The Pot
Ćnema
WTF? Are songs from Undertow retired permanently?
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My brother was at the Reno show, posted lots of great pics of the stage. It looks fucking insane. He said they were tight as fuck, and that it was a great show. The one thing he didn't do was let me in on the fact that he was going to the show so I could've gone too, but seeing that I had no idea they were playing, a little heads up would have been appreciated. Thanks bro, love you too.
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Wow. That's quite a setlist.
Hooker With A Penis
Jambi
Stinkfist
Ticks & Leeches
Pushit
Schism
Intension
Forty-Six & 2
Lateralus
The Pot
Ćnema
WTF? Are songs from Undertow retired permanently?
They mights put one or two in for encore
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Man, this forum really needs spoiler tags.
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Wow. That's quite a setlist.
Hooker With A Penis
Jambi
Stinkfist
Ticks & Leeches
Pushit
Schism
Intension
Forty-Six & 2
Lateralus
The Pot
Ćnema
WTF? Are songs from Undertow retired permanently?
They mights put one or two in for encore
That'd be quite nice as long as it ain't a stinker
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Man, this forum really needs spoiler tags.
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In case you didn't know, we use 1-point font to avoid spoiling. Hopefully this will help you avoid future spoilage. :tup
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In case you didn't know, we use 1-point font to avoid spoiling. Hopefully this will help you avoid future spoilage. :tup
Exactly the issue. Other forums simply have a clicky to reveal spoilers, which is much easier than having to quote every damn post.
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I know. I was only trying to help you avoid spoilers.
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That's an awesome setlist. I wonder how much they're gonna change it from night to night...
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My GOD I would kill to hear that set.
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I think it's time for a new album.
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Dude! Don't be impatient! It's only been 6 years!
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Tool are easily the most hipster mainstreamband ever. :lol
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Zanny, what did I tell you about making statements I can agree with?
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Dude! Don't be impatient! It's only been 6 years!
It will be in May.
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You can refer to my retitled subject line that also appears in your post.
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Wow. Over react much ?
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Listened to the setlist whilst working in the shop, and it's funny. It's nothing like what my ideal setlist would look like, maybe 2 songs in common, but it's absolutely bad ass. Great opener. Great pacing, setting the tone for a good Tool show. A couple of rare gems. Just about perfect, as it turns out. Guess they know their music better than I do.
Looks like they haven't changed anything up at all through 4 nights. However, Dallas will be the first 2-night stand. I expect something fairly different for the Saturday night show. Actually quite curious what they do.
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Wow. Over react much ?
How can I react to something by acting before the event I supposedly reacted to. If you notice, I had that comment in my subject line when I originally posted it before you even corrected me as a pre-emptive strike on anyone that tried to correct me. If you notice it's also in the subject line for when you quoted me so I fail to see where my retitling of a post I made before you even reacted to it can be seen as reacting to you.
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Sorry. I thought you'd changed the subject to that after I said it would be 6 years in May. :)
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Well, glad to have that straightened out. :lol
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Anyone know if they are performing the album version of pushit? Or is it the Salival version?
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Anyone know if they are performing the album version of pushit? Or is it the Salival version?
Album version, saw it on youtube
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I wonder if the band has the camera Nazis f'ing with folks again? :tdwn
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This may have already been said, but is there an opening act or is this tour an evening with?
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I wonder if the band has the camera Nazis f'ing with folks again? :tdwn
Always.
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I'm extremely excited to see Tool tonight for the first time in my life. Just a few hours to go. :metal
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You are in for one fucking hell of a show man. Tool does not disappoint live.
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Yes there's an opening act, but I have no idea who. Tool went at 21:00 both nights we saw them.
Great shows. In our case, one show was decidedly better than the other, but they were both excellent.
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Intronaut was opening for them, not sure if it's for the entire tour. If you haven't heard them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1LmYsCzAgw
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Just got back from seeing Tool!
We didn't get Intronaut, but we got a band named Yob. Doom metally stuff. S'alright.
Setlist:
Hooker With a Penis
Jambi
Sober
Stinkfist
(after this the order might be a bit shaky)
Pushit
Intension
Schism
46&2
Lateralus
Aenima
Lights were phenomenal, but man I have never been to a show where the staff/band was THIS anal about cameras. We couldn't even use our cell phones in the entire arena (even outside of the stage area) without getting yelled at. Plus we got tickets through stubhub and had a horrible experience. More on how much Ticketmaster sucks later.
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Just got back from seeing Tool!
We didn't get Intronaut, but we got a band named Yob. Doom metally stuff. S'alright.
Setlist:
Hooker With a Penis
Jambi
Sober
Stinkfist
(after this the order might be a bit shaky)
Pushit
Intension
Schism
46&2
Lateralus
Aenima
Dude, Yob is fucking awesome. In fact, as I read your post I was already listening to them. True story.
Also that setlist is fucking killer.
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Just got back from seeing Tool!
We didn't get Intronaut, but we got a band named Yob. Doom metally stuff. S'alright.
Setlist:
Hooker With a Penis
Jambi
Sober
Stinkfist
(after this the order might be a bit shaky)
Pushit
Intension
Schism
46&2
Lateralus
Aenima
Dude, Yob is fucking awesome. In fact, as I read your post I was already listening to them. True story.
Also that setlist is fucking killer.
Yob are indeed fucking awesome :metal
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Could've just been that their sound sucked. There was enough cool stuff to inspire me to check them out, though.
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Wow. Looks like they've retired Ticks and Leaches, and dropped the setlist from 11 songs to 10. Really glad I saw them when we did.
edit:Plus we got tickets through stubhub and had a horrible experience. More on how much Ticketmaster sucks later.
You got tickets through stub-hub, but TM sucks?
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Could've just been that their sound sucked. There was enough cool stuff to inspire me to check them out, though.
I could be barely hear MJK at my show, but I've heard the songs so many times that my imagination just kind of filled in the gaps. I was really happy with my setlist, even though they didn't play anything off of undertow. The light show left me speechless stunned. Never seen anything like that in my life.
My only real complaint was the whole MJK singing from the very back of the stage, standing pretty still and barely interacting with the audience. I knew going in that he was going to do that, so it wasn't a surprise, but its still makes me wish I saw them back in the Undertow/Aenima days.
Like how they used to be:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r_oJALpv44&feature=related
I really hate to say this, but it just felt like had didn't even want to be there.
Now contrast this with then I saw APC on their first tour in 2001 and he was right up front in the center of the stage, completely alive and had the audience in the palm of his hand. The difference was night and day.
Regardless I did have a great time.
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Did somebody say fan interaction?
:neverusethis: (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-xsr-t0vR8)
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Did somebody say fan interaction?
:neverusethis: (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-xsr-t0vR8)
That makes me laugh every time I see it.
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My only real complaint was the whole MJK singing from the very back of the stage, standing pretty still and barely interacting with the audience. I knew going in that he was going to do that, so it wasn't a surprise, but its still makes me wish I saw them back in the Undertow/Aenima days.
Eh, it's his way. Anytime I've seem him he's actually been quite animated, though. It's just hard to tell only seeing him in silhouette.
MJK has said in the past that the reason he bolts the second after the last song is because he doesn't want to detract well deserved attention from the other three guys, which I think is perfectly valid. That's probably a big part of his staying in the background, as well. I'm sure plenty of people are like me, and find Carey, Chancellor and Jones every bit as interesting to watch as Keenan (more so, in Carey's case). Yet weird fuck that he is, MJK gets all the attention. Personally, I kind of like the fact that he relegates himself to a lesser position. Plenty of people assume the singer is by default the front man, and that's kind of uncool towards a group of equals. The other guys work their asses off, and play incredibly well every night, yet the guy who paints himself blue is the star of the show. Since he also craves a bit of anonymity, it works out well for everybody.
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You know, if that is the case, then my respect for Maynard has definitely been bumped up a bit from considering him nothing but an "egotistical douchewaffle".
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It's just speculation on my part, but I know that's what he's said about not sticking around for ovations and applause after the shows.
The other part of it is that I figure he just doesn't like Tool's fans a whole lot. Everybody at the shows likes to think they're the enlightened ones, but let's face it, most aren't. A lot of assholes really get into Tool.
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Oh ain't that the truth. When I saw them two years ago, I had to put up with this real asshole the entire show. He was this big, pseudo-masculine prick who kept yelling in my face (directly in my face. Didn't flinch once. I gave no fucks. (https://i.imgur.com/5vQxV.gif)) because I wouldn't smoke weed with him. The fucker lost his pipe half way through the show, so he fuckin' deserved it.
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Oh ain't that the truth. When I saw them two years ago, I had to put up with this real asshole the entire show. He was this big, pseudo-masculine prick who kept yelling in my face (directly in my face. Didn't flinch once. I gave no fucks. (https://i.imgur.com/5vQxV.gif)) because I wouldn't smoke weed with him. The fucker lost his pipe half way through the show, so he fuckin' deserved it.
Yeah, seen a few of those guys. Tool, much like Pantera did, tends to attract a hyper-aggressive type of asshole to their shows. Angry music which the crank and Budweiser, white trash set finds totally fucking bad ass!
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For Tool though, I honestly don't get it. I mean, half of their music is hardly even remotely aggressive. Do those types of people just pretend it's not apart of their discography?
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It's just speculation on my part, but I know that's what he's said about not sticking around for ovations and applause after the shows.
The other part of it is that I figure he just doesn't like Tool's fans a whole lot. Everybody at the shows likes to think they're the enlightened ones, but let's face it, most aren't. A lot of assholes really get into Tool.
Totally agree. There was this drunk guy who kept screaming "MAYNARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" the whole damn show, even during slower songs and keep in mind that we were all the way back in the nosebleeds too. It was driving me nuts.
Thinking about it a little more, I guess if I was MJK, I would want to get as far back on the stage too.
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TOOL Drummer Hoping To Enter Studio In June/July - Mar. 19, 2012
Vic Firth has uploaded an "Artist Spotlight" video feature on TOOL drummer Danny Carey, featuring interview clips and footage from the band's January 28 concert at TD Banknorth Garden in Boston, Massachusetts. During the chat, Carey revealed that he was hoping TOOL would enter the studio in June/July to begin recording its new album.
https://legacy.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=171417
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So that kinda rules out a 2012 album, doesn't it. Even if he enters the studio, that doesn't mean they'll make music. Maybe they'll just drink a bunch. :lol
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Keenan 2016
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So that kinda rules out a 2012 album, doesn't it. Even if he enters the studio, that doesn't mean they'll make music. Maybe they'll just drink a bunch. :lol
Or write the next 4 pieces of nonsensical bullshit that is their monthly newsletters.
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I read somewhere that they've already entered the studio and are in the process of writing songs (this was before they announced the tour).
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At the rate they are going, I wouldn't be surprised if this was their last album .
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It really feels like Tool struggles to write good music. Don't get me wrong, the result on the album is normally great, but if it takes 5-6 years to write 60-70 minutes of good material, then that's pretty bad. Most people even think 10k Days has 15-20 minutes of badness, so yeah.
Compare that to The Dear Hunter, that has made more songs then Tool (in their entire career) in just 4-5 years, and it has all been great quality-wise. :lol
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It really feels like Tool struggles to write good music. Don't get me wrong, the result on the album is normally great, but if it takes 5-6 years to write 60-70 minutes of good material, then that's pretty bad. Most people even think 10k Days has 15-20 minutes of badness, so yeah.
Compare that to The Dear Hunter, that has made more songs then Tool (in their entire career) in just 4-5 years, and it has all been great quality-wise. :lol
My issue with the album is that its a hard album to listen to from beginning to end due to its length and that 15-20 minutes that should have been trimmed.
Lipan conjuring has no business on the album IMO and viginti tres is just unfocused sound, so right there is 6 minutes.
and
Despite its very personal subject matter I wish they would have trimmed (wings Pt 2) and had Wings for Marie part 1 just transition into The Pot. I like the flow of the album much better that way.
Wings part 1 is slow, but in a good way and it doesn't overstay its welcome. It brings the quality and knows when to finish, where as Wing part 2 just drags for me.
I listen to the album way more often since I trimmed those songs. Thank you Ipod.
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Sir, I respect your opinion and imma let you finish but Wings Part 2 is the best Tool song of all time. Of all time.
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-0rLI6-skQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=310s)
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Wings part 2 is fantastic indeed. Best on 10k days for me.
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Wings Pt. 2 is indeed glorious.....but so is Vicarious and Right In Two.
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Lipan Conjuring is the best of Tool's "filler songs"
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if anything, they coulda shoulda woulda just trimmed off wings part 1.
isnt that whole dynamic build up essentially done again in wings part 2?
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https://www.toolband.com/index_frames.html
An unprecedented tool News Update.
It contains Both News AND Tool ...
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Lateralus is an incredible album. Unfortunately, I don't think the others are quite on the same level quality-wise. Also, I can't stand trying to comb through that pile of shit they call the 'news'
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" Great news ! Adam or someone has been somewhere and done something or hasn't But it may have been that he might have found a rock or bit of old quartz or coral or something ( or neither ) that may have been once owned by someone or nobody that may have once thought he might have visited Egypt centuries ago by the process of bullshit-latin-made-up-shit !!!!!! This discovery means absolutely nothing or everything to whoever did or didnt find it !!! STAY TUNED !! ( also Danny ate a burger ) "
Yeah that's Tool news in a nutshell !
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Didn't Maynard put out an update like last June or something saying there will be new music in exactly 1 year time??
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I think he was joking about the Rapture date.
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Viginti Tres and Wings for Marie pt. 1 need to be on the album so they can fuse with 10,000 Days to make the super-song.
Oh, and 10,000 Days is fast becoming one of my favorite Tool songs. "BRING ME THE SPIRIT THE SON AND THE FATHER, TELL THEM THEIR PILLAR OF FAITH HAS ASCENDED" Truly beautiful.
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^ I don't buy that. I've heard "proof" that it syncs up but it just. sounds. terrible.
Seriously, if you're gonna make songs sync up - at least make them NOT sound like a cluttered mess when you do.
Some people also believe there'e a "correct" order to listen to Lateralus.
FFS - If there was a correct order they'd have sequenced it like that - and not make the album flow perfectly as it does now.
Tool Fans. (https://www.guildportal.com/MemberThumbs/O/541125748-29291.png)
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Viginti Tres and Wings for Marie pt. 1 need to be on the album so they can fuse with 10,000 Days to make the super-song.
Oh, and 10,000 Days is fast becoming one of my favorite Tool songs. "BRING ME THE SPIRIT THE SON AND THE FATHER, TELL THEM THEIR PILLAR OF FAITH HAS ASCENDED" Truly beautiful.
Not to be a complete ass, but it's actually "fetch me the spirit.." but otherwise I agree that it's one of the best Tool moments, 10k days (the song) as a whole is just amazing.
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^ I don't buy that. I've heard "proof" that it syncs up but it just. sounds. terrible.
Seriously, if you're gonna make songs sync up - at least make them NOT sound like a cluttered mess when you do.
I dunno, I think it works pretty well (the first half at least, I agree that its a little bit messy for the second). I'm sure if WFM1 and Viginti Tres weren't on the album I wouldn't miss it though. Its not really as mindblowing as some people make it out to be. :P
@Zantera: whoops :lol At least I confused it with a word that means the same thing.
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^ I don't buy that. I've heard "proof" that it syncs up but it just. sounds. terrible.
Seriously, if you're gonna make songs sync up - at least make them NOT sound like a cluttered mess when you do.
Some people also believe there'e a "correct" order to listen to Lateralus.
FFS - If there was a correct order they'd have sequenced it like that - and not make the album flow perfectly as it does now.
Tool Fans. (https://www.guildportal.com/MemberThumbs/O/541125748-29291.png)
this entire post.
the only reason anyone thinks the "Wings"/"Viginti" bullshit is true is because of Blair saying there is a secret on the album and no one has found it. all it takes is one guy — repeatedly proven to be full of shit! — posting news articles on their website to get everyone's head up their asses like usual.
(nothing specific to skydivingninja there!)
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I used to talk to someone who believed every bit of Tool bullshit going. That you should start at the middle of Lateralus and work your way outwards.
So Faiip De Oiad or whatever its called is smack bang in the middle of the album and songs fade in then cut to something else...
Oh and let's not forget the best one..That 10,000 Days is not a REAL album, even though they took 5 years to make it and toured it extensively.
:facepalm:
" Hey Guys - let's make an album of some of our best songs of our career but it's not an actual album ! We'll release it in ludicrously expensive packaging and tour the arse off it but we won't tell anyone it's not ACTUALLY our new album !!! "
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" Great news ! Adam or someone has been somewhere and done something or hasn't But it may have been that he might have found a rock or bit of old quartz or coral or something ( or neither ) that may have been once owned by someone or nobody that may have once thought he might have visited Egypt centuries ago by the process of bullshit-latin-made-up-shit !!!!!! This discovery means absolutely nothing or everything to whoever did or didnt find it !!! STAY TUNED !! ( also Danny ate a burger ) "
Yeah that's Tool news in a nutshell !
You forgot the bit where they tell us about every bar the band members went to this month where they watched their "buddy" play on stage and even joined in for a song or two after a couple of drinks.
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Insightful, insightful shit.
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tool is so weird.
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It really feels like Tool struggles to write good music. Don't get me wrong, the result on the album is normally great, but if it takes 5-6 years to write 60-70 minutes of good material, then that's pretty bad. Most people even think 10k Days has 15-20 minutes of badness, so yeah.
Compare that to The Dear Hunter, that has made more songs then Tool (in their entire career) in just 4-5 years, and it has all been great quality-wise. :lol
I ain't familiar with TDH but I couldn't agree more with your post, Ronnie van Zantera. An overwhelming majority of their shit is written primarily using just D, F, G, and G# with the occasional inclusion of A and C (as far as the main riffs of their songs are concerned.) You'd think if they could stop being such one trick ponies, melodically speaking, they'd be able to get an album out every 2-3 years.
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I think you mean they use D minor pentatonic almost exclusively just with an occasional minor second ( D#) and sharpened fourth (G#)
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It really feels like Tool struggles to write good music. Don't get me wrong, the result on the album is normally great, but if it takes 5-6 years to write 60-70 minutes of good material, then that's pretty bad. Most people even think 10k Days has 15-20 minutes of badness, so yeah.
Compare that to The Dear Hunter, that has made more songs then Tool (in their entire career) in just 4-5 years, and it has all been great quality-wise. :lol
I agree with this as well with the exception of the Dear Hunter, they've made a ton of music, but I think most of it just mediocre, so opinions I guess . . . .
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Well, there are many bands aside from TDH that has been productive and produced quality. My point is that Tool never releases an EP or B-Sides, it's like they barely scrape enough for an album in 5-6 years, and there are plenty of bands who put out 2 or 3 quality albums in the same time. :P
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You shouldn't try to quantify good music. They work when they feel like working, and I say more power to them. As I've pointed out before, they also tour quite a bit. They're on the road a helluva lot more than DT, despite only producing one album for every 3 DT albums (and Tool's a helluva lot more consistent with theirs).
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I'm not saying that quantity means good, but I think Tool are taking it to the extreme. 4 Studio albums in 20 years as a band? And sure they tour quite a bit, though I'm pretty sure 90% of it is in the states, which doesn't really help me. :biggrin:
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I understand what Zantera is trying to say though. Devin Townsend. Case and point.
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It really feels like Tool struggles to write good music. Don't get me wrong, the result on the album is normally great, but if it takes 5-6 years to write 60-70 minutes of good material
It's not like they're writing for 6 years straight. They just want to do thing besides Tool 24/7.
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It really feels like Tool struggles to write good music. Don't get me wrong, the result on the album is normally great, but if it takes 5-6 years to write 60-70 minutes of good material
It's not like they're writing for 6 years straight. They just want to do thing besides Tool 24/7.
Yeah, I get that too. I'm not saying they should be as productive as Steven Wilson, but it still feels like they're taking it to the extreme sometimes. Album nr.5 (if there will be any) probably wont come out until late 2013-early 2014. :biggrin:
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*shrug*
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Also, while it doesn't bother me personally, I can see why it did bother some fans that 10k Days consisted of 50% riffs they had played on earlier tours. (not sure if it was in solos or early version of songs)
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I don't think Zantera's being the least bit petty/unreasonable/etc. They make ridiculously good money by getting to play rock and roll yet seem to have very little gratitude that, unlike 99.99% of society, their passion and cash cow are one and the same. If they all had to go work in factories or fast food tomorrow, they may realize how entitled their actions come across as.
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As I said they have other things in,their lives besides Tool. Which doesn't bother me at all. Just don't listen to them all the time.
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As I said they have other things in,their lives besides Tool. Which doesn't bother me at all. Just don't listen to them all the time.
Yeah that's what I do and it works fine for me. I don't really listen to them much anymore, but I feel sad for people who are bigger fans than I am.
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I probably haven't been a Tool fan since around '99/'00 and it's directly attributable to their lack of output. As I said before, I get that they have other shit going on but they're slapping their diehards (not me) in the face by putting out such little material when ticket/record sales obviously reflect a feverish demand. How much time does Maynard really need to make wine no one will ever buy, music no one takes seriously (Puscifer), and recording solo projects under the APC flag?
I don't mean to sound pissy but people use the "other projects, dude!" card way too much. You can write and record a quality album in less than a year, tour for another year, spend yet another year on side projects, and take a month off here and there (far more vacation time than 99% of society gets) and still get an album out less than every 4 years.
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I probably haven't been a Tool fan since around '99/'00 and it's directly attributable to their lack of output. As I said before, I get that they have other shit going on but they're slapping their diehards (not me) in the face by putting out such little material when ticket/record sales obviously reflect a feverish demand. How much time does Maynard really need to make wine no one will ever buy, music no one takes seriously (Puscifer), and recording solo projects under the APC flag?
I don't mean to sound pissy but people use the "other projects, dude!" card way too much. You can write and record a quality album in less than a year, tour for another year, spend yet another year on side projects, and take a month off here and there (far more vacation time than 99% of society gets) and still get an album out less than every 4 years.
5 years between album is definitely shitting on your own fans.
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Damn, talk about entitlement. They behave the way they want to, and if that doesn't sit well with "their diehard fans," then stop being fans, FFS. It surprises me that people are actually bitching and moaning because Tool doesn't make music fast enough for their liking.
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Those fans gave them the money to have the luxury of being able to be so procrastinative. Not that crazy to expect something in return.
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No, you game them money in return for a CD, concert or whatever. Expecting anything from them beyond that is ridiculous. They solicited a service or product and you bought it. End of transaction.
Damn, talk about entitlement.
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Personally I don't demand albums from the artists I'm listening to, but looking at Tool's last couple of years since 10k Days was released, they have pretty much been touring around the same cities in the states, playing a fairly standard setlist with maybe a few songs swapped.
I'm not disappointed in the band or anything like that, because obviously they do whatever they want, and I understand that. It feels a bit weird though, because it doesn't feel like the band themselves has the "glow" anymore. Sure they are still together and they have yet another US-tour now, but they don't seem too excited about making a new record, the four they have seem to be enough, and they seem happy enough just touring those songs for the next 10 years making money from them. :P
That's how it feels at least. When someone in Tool says "we will start working on a new album", that generally means that maybe somewhere down the road, ~2 years into the future we might get an album, but most likely not.
Or maybe I'm just frustrated because they tour in the states, then another tour in the states, and then another, and they haven't played in Europe in a while, at least not near me. I would love to see them live, but seeing as that won't be likely (unless I go to the states), another album is high up.
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Well at least Danny said they start tracking this summer and the official page actually has some rehearsal photos for a change.
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No, you game them money in return for a CD, concert or whatever. Expecting anything from them beyond that is ridiculous. They solicited a service or product and you bought it. End of transaction.
Damn, talk about entitlement.
I SOLD MY SOUL TO MAKE A RECORD, DIPSHIT AND...YOU...BOUGHT...OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONE
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I have to say that I really don't care if TOOL ever comes up with a new album. They have 4 solid albums and a EP that's just as memorable. I think it's time for them to hang up the gloves. They had a great run and have a cult-like fan base. I say mission accomplished.
Signed: disgruntled Tool fan that's sick and tired of waiting 5+ years per studio release.
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No, you game them money in return for a CD, concert or whatever. Expecting anything from them beyond that is ridiculous. They solicited a service or product and you bought it. End of transaction.
Damn, talk about entitlement.
Whatever dude. Didn't realize the gods had given you the power to decide what dictates graciousness. It ain't asking for a kidney simply to expect a band to do something far easier than nearly any other REAL job in existence more than twice a decade. You're coming off like a Maynard alt account.
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I have a feeling that making music, especially good music that won't disappoint the diehard fans that have swarmed around you, would actually be harder than quite a lot of "real jobs."
That doesn't mean they couldn't try to so more often, of course, but they can always go Dethklok route and scrap anything they hate and try again from scratch. At least people would know that they're trying. :lol
You're coming off like a Maynard alt account.
Personal attack, reported.
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No, you game them money in return for a CD, concert or whatever. Expecting anything from them beyond that is ridiculous. They solicited a service or product and you bought it. End of transaction.
Damn, talk about entitlement.
Whatever dude. Didn't realize the gods had given you the power to decide what dictates graciousness. It ain't asking for a kidney simply to expect a band to do something far easier than nearly any other REAL job in existence more than twice a decade. You're coming off like a Maynard alt account.
Now now, dude. His reply was reasonable and civilized. And more importantly, absolutely correct. You pay for an album or a live performance. You don't pay for future works. What if their next album is shit? Do you get mad because they owed you a good album?
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With the frequency of their output, this seems to add further longevity to them overall as a band. None of them seem to ever truly get burned out by the process. I wouldn't be surprised to see them keep going for 10-15 more years because of how lax and slow they do take everything. Their live shows satisfy the fans, and their albums are typically of a high caliber. The very thing that makes some fans angry at them, just may be the very thing that keeps this band alive well past most.
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^ Wise words. I couldn't care less about the wait in between considering I haven't been a big fan of Tool for quite some time, though I still really like them and listen to them on occasion. But I'd much rather have a quality, well thought-out album that's been combed and dissected multiple times instead of a thrown-together, half-assed album that has the markings of men that are worn out and uninspired. That said, it'd be really nice if we could get a Tool album sometime before I graduate college, which has already been put off a number of years and will probably be put off a few more. So...a few years? I'd say it's likely we'll have one by the time 2015 rolls around.
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It's interesting, because my initial post wasn't about them slacking with releasing albums, it was more about how 10k Days came out 5 years after Lateralus, and a lot of it was recycled stuff. Some people love 10k days, I think it's a good album myself, but it has possibly 10-15 minutes that I'm not too excited about, and I know a lot of fans have a similar opinion.
But yeah, I can totally wait until 2016 when the next album comes out, if it's awesome. :hat
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tell me more of this recycled material :)
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^ the only actual "recycling" is that "Wings for Marie" grew out of a jam they played prior to the last song on nearly every Lateralus gig from 2001-2002. (the final version also uses that giant thud sound from "Merkaba" on Salival, but that ending was just pasted onto M anyway.)
the others are more subjective/conjectural, i.e. "Rosetta Stoned" using the arpeggio idea from "Third Eye" and "Right in Two" using the atmospheric tabla break from "Pushit".
personally, i think all of the "BOO HOO RECYCLING" stuff is absolute bullshit — especially on a prog forum — but i hardly blame anyone/think they're a douche when we're talking about Tool, who didn't really do the same thing twice until 10kD came out.
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Plus the heavy section of Right in Two sounds like 46+2 ... Right & 2 :D
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Walked in the break room today and caught the end of a story on the news about Maynard's winery. Thought it was neat.
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Maynard's whinery.
read it as this. lol'd.
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Here's the piece:
https://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7407720n&tag=contentMain%3BcontentBody
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When I saw that this had been commented on, I expected some news on a new album :sad: Oh well... Listening to Aenima right now, great song. Lateralus is still the best album though!
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Ćnima remains the best them imo. The singles from that album represent one of the best jobs ever done picking singles for an album in the history of recorded music. Throw in Eulogy and Third Eye and we got ourselves one spicy meatball.
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Ćnima probably will always be my favorite. Its just so grandiose and epic in scale and all the the little interludes enhance rather then hinder the album, making an incredibly unique package.
I still remember my 27 year old Uncle handing me the album when I was 10 years old when my mom wasn't paying attention. He flipped the artwork over and my eyes lit up in shock and awe as he told me never to let my mom see this. I was intrigued and from that point on Tool was one of my favorite bands.
and the title track may just be my favorite Tool song ever. Learn to swim...
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Lateralus for me. Less stupid segues. And the segues all work. Aeon Blue Apocalypse and Mantra set up their following songs nicely.
Aenima has like 6 segues which really add nothing to the flow of the album apart from maybe Jimmy which is the riff from the next song played on an organ ( ? memory may be wrong - i don't have the tracklist in front of me )
10,000 Days has Lipan Conjuring - which is IMO just the one stupid segue on the whole album.
IMO -
1.Lateralus - untouchable
2.Aeima - Good if you take off all the segues ( i made this playlist and I prefer how it flows without them )
3.10,000 Days - Great stuff but not lateralus levels of Great.
4.Undertow
5.Opiate
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Lateralus remains their best for me. Ćnima and 10 000 Days are probably tied after that. I think the latter has better songs (Vicarious and part 2 of the title-track) but the first is more consistent, and doesn't really have any lowpoints.
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Walked in the break room today and caught the end of a story on the news about Maynard's winery. Thought it was neat.
I saw him on winelibrary.tv it was pretty interesting.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyDWYHGCRYY
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MJK is definitely the most awkward guy I've seen on TV ever.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyDWYHGCRYY
Haha. :lol
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That was amazing, thanks! :lol
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The Reason TOOL take so long to record an album :
(https://207.7.138.58/images/news/glasssnare)
Danny Carey keeps smashing his GLASS snare drums.
https://www.toolband.com/index_frames.html
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ALSO :
In case you missed Adam's recent twitter post, here's a production still from a new TOOL PROJECT that should be out in the Fall.
(https://www.toolarmy.com/images/news/toolstill)
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Music video
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Knowing Tool it will be a music video for Vicarious.
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Better late than never.
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Knowing Tool it will be a music video for Vicarious.
Better late than never.
wat (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6nbNEfUkm4)
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I didn't know. How could I have known?!
/Burt Gummer
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Random thought that just occurred to me: there aren't any bands that I've listened to longer than Tool. They're pretty much the only band that I listened to around 2000 that has withstood my frequent changes in taste.
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I've been a Tom Petty fan since age 4. I win.
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I was an REM fan since " The One I Love ". Which was on Document in 1987 ??
So quite a while ! :D
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Damn you Kotowboy! I was under the impression that there was some TOOL news
:sadpanda:
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me too mang.
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I've been a Tom Petty fan since age 4. I win.
Was raised on Iron Maiden since day 1. Checkmate.
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At the DT show last night Danny Carrey came on and played Red and one other song with Crimson ProjeKct. It was pretty fucking awesome.
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:metal
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A website has reported that Danny Carey said that they plan to start recording in Spring 2013 now and that they have nearly FIVE songs ready.
:facepalm:
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Won't believe it 'till it actually happens.
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I tried to think of all the little riffs and songs and stuff that i'd personally come up with since 2006 and there's probably hours and hours of it..I've a playlist on my iTunes alone that is 2 hours of stuff from this year...
How the hell do Tool go 6 years and only write "almost" 5 songs ?
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I tried to think of all the little riffs and songs and stuff that i'd personally come up with since 2006 and there's probably hours and hours of it..I've a playlist on my iTunes alone that is 2 hours of stuff from this year...
How the hell do Tool go 6 years and only write "almost" 5 songs ?
They probably write as a band but occasionally get together to do so. Since they have other interests besides music.
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Because wealth affords folks the opportunity to ignore the fact that the people who made them wealthy would really like to have more than 4 albums in 20 years:
Undertow: April 1993
Ćnima: September 1996
Lateralus: May 2001
10,000 Days: May 2006
They know that their name is well-established enough that fans of mainstream music will always check them out whenever they release a new album just to see what all the buzz is about. They don't make bad music per se but nothing has floored me since Ćnima and if you're gonna start taking more than 5 years between releases, it's pretty shitty to not be able to more or less re-invent the wheel given such a luxurious time frame.
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Here we go with this shit again.
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Here we go with this shit again.
Right. Thats why I said what I said. Tool was one of the first bands I listened to, yet I don't care if takes them however long to release an album, I'd call it smart marketing of your art.
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Tool were the first band that really entranced me too. That was when Lateralus came out. I didn't like 10,000 Days that much and have kinda become disillusioned with them anyway, but that's a good thing because I was way too much of a rabid fan in my teen years.
They can make a new album whenever they want. I'll be there to get it on day one. I don't care how many years it's been.
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I love Lateralus, think both Aenima and 10 000 Days are great, and I enjoy Undertow.
However, Tool are not among my favorite bands. So in that sense it doesn't bother me if it takes time. It's not like I'm going around waiting for a new album, when/if it comes out, I'll be happy and I'll check it out, but I have plenty of other music to keep me busy.
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Well, I know I'll pick up the new album when it comes out, but I really don't listen to them that much anymore. I think it has something to do with the fact that, since they've only made 4 albums in ~20 years, I've kinda listened to all their songs enough by now to where I've gotten tired of them.
Oh wait, that's everything to do with it.
On the other hand, the fact that I will buy their new album means that they have every reason to continue to work at their current pace. 'Tis a conundrum.
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Well, I know I'll pick up the new album when it comes out, but I really don't listen to them that much anymore. I think it has something to do with the fact that, since they've only made 4 albums in ~20 years, I've kinda listened to all their songs enough by now to where I've gotten tired of them.
Oh wait, that's everything to do with it.
On the other hand, the fact that I will buy their new album means that they have every reason to continue to work at their current pace. 'Tis a conundrum.
My feelings conveyed perfectly; wonderfully said, sir. :tup
I am really exited to hear this if it turns out to be an official, true source; and yet I don't have the desire to listen to a Tool song, nor have I for over a year. Though I know when the album is inevitably confirmed and a release date is set and we get some more information, I will start cranking them up once more.
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I think 10,000 Days is my favorite Tool album. The Pot, Right in Two, and Jambi are all incredible tracks, but it's Vicarious that outs it all over the edge for me. Fantastic album.
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10,000 days is great. Better than Aenima for me. The entire album has a nice flow, especially after Lost Keys. The weird volume swells in Intention at the beginning and end envoke an eerie feeling of uneasiness, that's what I enjoy about Tool.
I also believe people enjoy Lateralus a lot because it deals with communication and connection.
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Lateralus
Aenima ( minus all the segues ) = 10,000 Days
Undertow
opiate
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Lateralus
Aenima
10,000 Days
Undertow
Easiest ranking ever.
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Tool: The new Boston
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Lateralus
Aenima
10,000 Days
Undertow
Easiest ranking ever.
This exactly.
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Lateralus
Aenima
10,000 Days
Undertow
Easiest ranking ever.
This exactly.
Thirded.
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Fourth - but Aenima has far too many stupid segues and 10,000 Days only really has Lost Keys and Viginti Tres.
If Aenima was just the 9 actual songs - it'd be much better imo.
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Lateralus
Aenima
10,000 Days
Undertow
Easiest ranking ever.
This exactly.
Thirded.
Fourth'd
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Switch Aenima and 10,000 days and thats mine.
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The segues in Aenima do get a bit annoying towards the end, but I wouldn't say they really hurt the album as a whole.
And Die Eier Von Satan is pretty much the best thing ever.
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Tool: The new Boston
ha! Awesome
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Ćnima
Undertow
The Great Debate
Lateralus
10,000 Days
Opiate
Tool: The new Boston
:rollin
I'd be thrilled if someone made a good poster for this.
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I actually really like Lost Keys.
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Lateralus
Aenima
!O OOO Days
Salival
Opiate
Undertow
Aenima and 10 000 Days are kinda interchangeable, but i'll give the edge to Aenima or being more raw, more ground breaking, and for its higher highs. 10 000 Days still seems to me like a less perfect Lateralus. still damn good, though.
i liked Undertow when i was first getting into the band circa 1999, but i quickly started to 'hate' on it...kinda sounds like progressive grunge, and not in the deadly way like Amplifier's debut, for example...maybe it would win me over if i gave it another full spin (it's been forever), but i actually dont even keep it on my ipod.
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Tool: The new Boston
Boston recorded five albums from 1976 to 2002. That's 26 years. Tool has recorded an EP and four studio albums since 1992 with the last coming out in 2006. That's five releases in fourteen years. So Tool has six more years to reach the five studio albums in 26 years mark. :lol
Admittedly, five releases in 20 years isn't exactly what one would call productive, but it's still better than poor old Boston.
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ALSO :
In case you missed Adam's recent twitter post, here's a production still from a new TOOL PROJECT that should be out in the Fall.
(https://www.toolarmy.com/images/news/toolstill)
This turned out to be nothing. As Usual.
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Ćnima
Undertow
The Great Debate
Lateralus
10,000 Days
Opiate
:rollin
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We're due for another Tool album pretty soon I think...
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Oh seneca, how you've warmed my funny bone this evening.
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Going through my entire discography this year I just came across my Tool collection that I haven't listened to in a while. Brought back some great memories going through the music but if another Tool album were to never be released I don't think it'd bother me too much.
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Oddly enough, I've known about Tool for over 10 years and just last summer I decided to buy my first ever Tool album and actually give them more of a chance. Ended up buying both Lateralus and Aenima, and I was not disappointed to say the least. I must say I do enjoy Lateralus a lot more, not only because of quality but also because the segues on Aenema are kind of annoying. My favorite songs are Reflection and Lateralus, two songs that I had never heard until recently. I haven't heard any of their other stuff though, what would you guys recommend?
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I agree with you about the segues for Aenima, they seem to be forced.
If i were you I'd go with Undertow; 10,000 days comes off as Lateralus v1.5 There are some great tacks on there but there are some really forgettable tracks.
Undertow has a whole different vibe to Tool, to me it's a little more rough around the edges IMO but it's great.
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i'd recommend both 10,000 Days and Salival before you get into Undertow and Opiate. if you hadn't liked Lateralus so much (but who doesn't?), i would've said the opposite.
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Absolutely love this band. I still can't believe that they're known for their big gaps between albums and this one is the biggest yet. Sometimes I get the feeling that they don't care very much for this band at all.
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10 000 Days is pretty sweet. It has some "meh"-songs, but the good songs on the album are really fuckin' good.
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10,000 Days is a great successor to Lateralus. Its like coming back to reality after a big self discovery. My least Favorite is Jambi and my most favorite is Intention, was so happy to hear it live.
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I really love Jambi. It has some of the grooviest riffs the band has done IMO, and I really like the experimentation with some sound effects. Some great vocal parts as well.
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10 000 Days is pretty sweet. It has some "meh"-songs, but the good songs on the album are really fuckin' good.
I really love Jambi. It has some of the grooviest riffs the band has done IMO, and I really like the experimentation with some sound effects. Some great vocal parts as well.
Zantera... we are so agreesome! :metal
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Thanks for the recommendations guys :) I will check them out later tonight.
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Lost Keys is a cool thing as well. All bass feedback.
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I think Tool may be the only band where I like all their albums equally. Which one I listen to all comes down to mood.
I agree with you about the segues for Aenima, they seem to be forced.
Totally agree. When I first heard the segues for Aenima as a kid, I thought they were cool and different, but as time went by I realized that they were getting the way of me listening to the album. Since I removed them, I find myself listening to it way more often.
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Jambi is probably a top 5 Tool song for me.
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Jambi is probably a top 5 Tool song for me.
Same here.
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The riffs, the weird guitar bits in the middle and the vocal delivery is all just so perfect.
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I love Jambi. They make the 9/8 sound pretty natural and groovy, but it's the 6/4 talk box solo that really seals the deal for me. The vocals are pretty awesome. Jambi, Vicarious, and The Pot are my most listened 10,000 Days songs.
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Jambi's cool but gets pretty old after a while. Now I think it's a bit boring and dragged out.
Vicarious and 10,000 Days, however, are two of the band's best songs.
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Looks like I haven't posted in this thread yet... I got into Tool a few months ago and I have to say that even though I've heard all their albums and listened to them carefully, many songs still haven't clicked with me - they're probably the most complex band I've listened to! My ranking:
Ćnima (there are a bit too many segues, but the songwriting itself is great)
10,000 Days
Lateralus
(Opiate)
Undertow
About Jambi, that song is one of my favorites - the riffs rule and the talk box solo is cool! :metal
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I really love Jambi. It has some of the grooviest riffs the band has done IMO, and I really like the experimentation with some sound effects. Some great vocal parts as well.
dat intro!
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Jambi is good but for some reason i dont listen to it as much as the others.
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Wings for Marie has never done anything for me. Both of the songs seem melancholy and bland, and not really an interesting listen.
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Lateralus>aenima>>undertow>>>10000 days
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Wings for Marie has never done anything for me. Both of the songs seem melancholy and bland, and not really an interesting listen.
Interesting. I think it's the band's best song(s).
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While Lateralus is my favorite, I'm not sure which I prefer out of Aenima and 10 000 Days. The latter has stronger songs, but the former might be stronger overall. I don't particularly care for the segues on it though.
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Aenima minus the segues = 10,000 Days
Aenima plus the segues < 10,000 days
Lateralus > Aenima > 10,000 Days > Undertow overall
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For me, Aenima is the strongest album, followed by Lateralus, 10,000 Days, and Undertow. Vicarious and 10,000 Days are two of their absolute best songs, but the rest of the album doesn't do too much for me.
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https://gunshyassassin.com/news/tool-halfway-done-writing-new-album/
Tool Halfway Done Writing New Album
Posted by Chris Harris on December 18, 2012 in In the Studio, New Records, News
Tool
It’s true.
Tool’s webmaster has posted the following update to the band’s site, and it’s a good kind of update. Tool are 50-percent done with their new album.
“Something that might be encouraging to some Tool enthusiasts is that while riding with Danny to Chili John’s yesterday, I heard a lot of new Tool music (sans Maynard),” reads the update.
Lucky bastard.
“This was the most new material that I’ve heard so far, although a few of the riffs and arrangements were familiar,” the update adds.
“So, what did I think? Dare I say that it sounded like… Tool (some of it reminiscent to earlier Tool stuff, with other parts pushing the envelope), and I assume that it will sound even more like Tool once the vocal melodies, etc. have been added.
“To answer your next question, I cannot say how far along in the writing process the band is. If I had to GUESS, I would say more than half way (and keep in mind that in the past, at least, the writing went faster once the first few [more complex] songs were finished).”
So, I assume it’ll be another ten years before we get the new album then?
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OH SHIT! I always check this thread whenever its bumped and a little mentally retarded man in my head says to me "This could be the moment..." and then I stick a link of sausage down his throat cause he's stupid. Except...he was right this time. HE WAS RIGHT! I'M SORRY JEROME! This is really exciting! I mean, yeah, we probably won't hear even a sample till 2014, but to know it's being worked on.... WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTY PATOOOOOOOOTY! :metal :biggrin:
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OH SHIT! I always check this thread whenever its bumped and a little mentally retarded man in my head says to me "This could be the moment..." and then I stick a link of sausage down his throat cause he's stupid. Except...he was right this time. HE WAS RIGHT! I'M SORRY JEROME! This is really exciting! I mean, yeah, we probably won't hear even a sample till 2014, but to know it's being worked on.... WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTY PATOOOOOOOOTY! :metal :biggrin:
You need an editor.
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Great news, does this mean we can expect the album by 2015?
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The part about it sounding like earlier Tool is intriguing since Ćnima is unquestionably my fave Tool album followed closely by Undertow. I just hope they can the fucking interludes for once.
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I agree; the only tool album with interludes that worked was Lateralus. Also, I'd love a return to the older tool sound. I absolutely love the raw and powerful aggression of Undertow.
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Yes, yes and yes. Less interludes, return to glory...I don't want to hype myself up for this album too much but that sounds fucking sexy.
Zook: I don't know what you mean. I mean I think I do but I...I
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OH SHIT! I always check this thread whenever its bumped and a little mentally retarded man in my head says to me "This could be the moment..." and then I stick a link of sausage down his throat cause he's stupid. Except...he was right this time. HE WAS RIGHT! I'M SORRY JEROME! This is really exciting! I mean, yeah, we probably won't hear even a sample till 2014, but to know it's being worked on.... WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTY PATOOOOOOOOTY! :metal :biggrin:
General DTF Member Awards:
Funniest Member: Tio Jorge
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:heart :heart
I've been listening to Tool nonstop since I found out about this. Ohhh boy. I shouldn't have done that... WANTNAO.
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Can't wait!
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Tool should release their album on the date of the next end of the world prediction.
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So, I assume it’ll be another ten years before we get the new album then?
That estimate may be a bit generous.
I do hope this comes soon though, I am sooooo ready for new Tool.
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Great news, does this mean we can expect the album by 2015?
(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/forumavatars/avatar_4186_1345004861.jpeg)
All jokes aside, sometime in 2015 is actually a decent guess, considering it's Tool we're talking about.
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Maybe Tool and Necrophagist are betting on who's gonna make their fanbase wait longer for an album.... ;D
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Plus you have to remember that it's Blair writing that "update"..
So it could be absolute bollocks and they haven't done anything.
10,000 Days came out in May 2006.
Even Metallica have released a studio album, a double collaboration album, an EP and 4 live DVDs in that time plus Two or Three cover sonsgs.
To give you some perspective.
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Maybe Tool and Necrophagist are betting on who's gonna make their fanbase wait longer for an album.... ;D
Is there even any indication at all that Necrophagist is writing a new album?
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Maybe Tool and Necrophagist are betting on who's gonna make their fanbase wait longer for an album.... ;D
Is there even any indication at all that Necrophagist is writing a new album?
No, so right now it seems Necrophagist is winning :D
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Perhaps 10,000 days was an estimate for the interval between albums.
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They'd still be 5 years late...
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Wait wut :lol
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Well this is fucking great . . . From what Maynard's saying there won't be a new tool album this year.
https://gunshyassassin.com/news/tools-keenan-says-no-new-album-in-2013/ (https://gunshyassassin.com/news/tools-keenan-says-no-new-album-in-2013/)
:tdwn . . .that sucks.
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HOW SURPRISING
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HOW SURPRISING
I'M SUPER SHOCKED BY THIS
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:censored
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Also...
Well, gee. Thanks for being so blunt, Maynard.
Less working on goofy side projects no one ultimately cares about, more working on Tool.
Please.
Journalism at its most professional right there, folks.
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The author sounds like a whiny, self righteous Tool fan (80% of their fanbase)
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Be that as it may, it's very hard to disagree with his comments. APC is the only one of MJK's side projects that even would have had a snowball's chance in hell of establishing him in the mainstream music consciousness and even that's no sure bet since their music is far less impressive than Tool's.
He may not owe us an album per se but when you have a very luxurious lifestyle thanks to a devout fanbase that nearly hangs on your every word, you'd think someone may have some intrinsic desire to get their ass working on something once every 2 or 3 years. It's an album, not a PhD.
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Volto's debut album 'Incitare' is streaming: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/volto-light-up-with-incitare-album-premiere-20130722 (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/volto-light-up-with-incitare-album-premiere-20130722)
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Volto's debut album 'Incitare' is streaming: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/volto-light-up-with-incitare-album-premiere-20130722 (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/volto-light-up-with-incitare-album-premiere-20130722)
That is one great album, I actually enjoyed that more that I've enjoyed tool's work in years. Guess my tastes are changing.
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I've got some other stuff I'm going to listen to, but I gave that first song a listen... I must own this, that shit is rad as fuck.
EDIT: Now in 4 tracks, that other music can wait.
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Next Summer it will be Eight Years since 10,000 days.
If you think about everything you've done in 8 years - it just makes it seem more ridiculous.
Music wise - i've recorded a concept prog album about Mars - Escape Plan 2008
Recorded a professional rock album and released it online worldwide - Demise Of The Monsters - 2011
Recorded an Instrumental metal EP completely on my own in my room and released it via Bandcamp - The Juggernaut 2012
And i'm currently working on my next Instrumental Metal album to be released this December - New Primitive Weapons - 2013
- Now I know it's very different for Tool of course and Maynard has been busy with his endless side projects - but no new music whatsover in eight years ?
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We get it, you make music.
:-*
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But so do Tool.
Oh wait.
I'm just saying that I couldn't go that long without putting anything out. MJK seems to be the only one who has regularly released music. The other three have been supposedly working on new Tool this whole time.
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It still makes me laugh just how upset people can get when a band doesn't release new music constantly.
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I would not describe a gap of eight years as just "not constantly".
I mean, I don't feel that I'm entitled to new music or anything, but the wait can become frustrating.
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Wings for Marie has never done anything for me. Both of the songs seem melancholy and bland, and not really an interesting listen.
Interesting. I think it's the band's best song(s).
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I would not describe a gap of eight years as just "not constantly".
I mean, I don't feel that I'm entitled to new music or anything, but the wait can become frustrating.
+ 1
Frankly I couldn't care less if they never release anything. But they've been giving up false info for too long.
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I would not describe a gap of eight years as just "not constantly".
I mean, I don't feel that I'm entitled to new music or anything, but the wait can become frustrating.
That's what baffles me, why get frustrated over it.
I believe Tool likes to mess with fans, its them basically being humans. I have my own life and know bands can do as they please, even if some disband because it wasn't as fun anymore or their heart isn't in it anymore.
But they give info. Because they're asked about it, and I find it funny they're giving these answers.
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Be that as it may, it's very hard to disagree with his comments.
I find it very easy to disagree with his comments, myself. First of all, there are people who really love some of Maynard's side projects (I myself enjoy APC more than Tool, as a general rule), so the 'goofy side projects no one ultimately cares about' bit is flat-out wrong.
Secondly, even if everyone in the world hated all of his side projects, so what? Artists aren't obligated to make popular decisions. (In fact, when artists make decisions based entirely on popularity, we generally label them sell-outs and scorn them - but that's another issue entirely.) As far as I'm concerned, Maynard should be free to direct his creative energies wherever he wants.
Besides, what do we expect, exactly? One day Maynard's gonna go, "Oh, fine, you want some Tool, here's some fucking Tool," and then he writes the best album ever? I don't see that happening. I doubt he's gonna come up with anything inspired or interesting just because his fans kept pestering him. If he writes any more (quality) Tool music, it's gonna be on his own timetable, not that of his fanbase. And I, for one, would rather wait another few years for a great Tool album than get a decent Tool album right now because Maynard caved in to what his fans wanted.
... Yes, I realize that the article and post I'm responding to are several months old. But the subject still seems relevant, and it's a subject I've been irked about in the past, so, whatever. Just my two cents.
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It still makes me laugh just how upset people can get when a band doesn't release new music constantly.
As much as I'd like to hear some new Tool tunes I agree with you. There are so many bands that I listen to that don't have the funds to release a new album so it's always a mystery if a new album will even happen.
I'm also curious at the writing dynamic in Tool, I was always under the impression everyone wrote the music and MJK just put lyrics down.
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^ I believe that is the case too. And since Adam and Justin don't do side projects and Danny very occasionally . . . It makes you wonder why you would be a musician and not make music ?
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^ I believe that is the case too. And since Adam and Justin don't do side projects and Danny very occasionally . . . It makes you wonder why you would be a musician and not make music ?
Maybe playing is only a hobby now, they got money to spend doing a lot of other things.
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Here's the thing.
Tool? Doesn't owe you ANYTHING. Much as Neil Gaiman said when people were complaining about how long it took George RR Martin to write books-they aren't your bitch. They don't work for you. If they want to take 10 years to put out an album, then they can. Purchasing a Tool album doesn't obligate them to make one ASAP because you want it. It is hard to understand sometimes how a band can exist for 20 years and have so few albums out, but they aren't obligated to make music to anyone's schedule but their own.
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I agree with you 100% Jaq, it's like them putting out a new model TV, when it comes out you can purchase it.
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Jaq pretty much made the complaints his bitch. Perfectly stated. It's out when it's out, and I'd rather them take their sweet time and make the masterpiece we know they can make rather than push it out for the sake of whiy-ass bitch-fans. Which would be me. Cause I really fucking want a new Tool album since I just got back into them. :lol That said, I completely understand that Maynard is the big cheese and he certainly has not been doing 'nothing' for years; he's got other music projects, his wine (which is actually pretty damn good!), and creating baby-spider-baby hybrids.
I'll love it when it does release, but I'm not going to worry about it till it is. Or at least till we have a release date, then I'll obsess.
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Adam has his creative art projects, might be doing something for someone. Maynard has his wine. I think they're content with where they are in life, and danny is doin volto.
Now, since Volto is released soon, could that mean he might focus on Tool.
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here's the thing. they were nearly finished recording the new album a couple years ago when JC informed the boys one day that he had to take a break to go track bass for one song on a deadly album called The Fusion Syndicate. the rest of the boys decided to buy a pound of dope to kill the day, but instead they killed their momentum. rumour has it someone got way out of control on the demon weed and destroyed the master tapes of everything recorded thus far. JC, as one can imagine, was beyond pissed off after finding the carnage in the studio upon his return, said he needed a(nother) break from the guys, and hasnt been heard from since. we can only hope he comes around.
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Is that the official version of " the master tapes were lost in the studio fire " story ?
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Honestly, the only annoying thing about Tool is Blair. He alone makes me block Tool out completely in between albums/tours.
If it takes them 10 years to not write Lateralus v3 (10,000 Days = Lateralus v2) then that's cool with me. Lateralus is one of the most beautiful albums ever made.
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10,000 Days was more like aenima part 2.
I'd be very surprised if they managed another Lateralus.
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was there actually a studio fire situation!?! my story is pure coincidence.
on a serious note, i remember an interview with Chancellor from somewhere around 9-15 months following the release of 10,000 Days in which he suggested that this time around, it might only be 3 years in between releases. so much for that math; he wouldnt even be right if he meant 3 years longer than normal between releases.
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3 years actually equals 12 when converted to Tool Time.
That's right, that Tool Time
(https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/phillyburbs.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/3/9d/39d7be3e-f820-11e1-8b1d-001a4bcf6878/50489a4302ccc.image.jpg)
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2 spins into volto!.
holy fuck! i wanna :hefdaddy, but i shouldnt, cuz i next to never do that 2 spins in to something...watch, after 5 spins, i'll already be over it.
but yeah, this is hitting the spot just perfect today. been getting my new(to me) instrumental fix from the aristocrats the past circa 7weeks, but as much as ive been loving that, im pretty sure if i had to choose, i'd be boarding this train.
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10,000 Days was more like aenima part 2.
lol no
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10,000 Days was more like aenima part 2.
lol no
LOL Y NOT
It was nothing like Lateralus in any way. Right In Two was almost a complete re-write of 46+2.
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10,000 Days was more like aenima part 2.
lol no
LOL Y NOT
It was nothing like Lateralus in any way. Right In Two was almost a complete re-write of 46+2.
Are you listening to the right CD? 10,000 days is like an album of b-side material from Lateralus. The production and songwriting is nothing like Ćnima and almost identical to Lateralus. Then you have the artwork which makes the link even stronger.
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I just want another Tool record, plain and simple.
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ya, c'mon bru, it easily has way more in common with Lateralus than Aenima.
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Volto's debut album 'Incitare' is streaming: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/volto-light-up-with-incitare-album-premiere-20130722 (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/volto-light-up-with-incitare-album-premiere-20130722)
That was a very fun listen. Thank you!
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10,000 Days was more like aenima part 2.
lol no
LOL Y NOT
It was nothing like Lateralus in any way. Right In Two was almost a complete re-write of 46+2.
I'm honestly struggling to find anything those two songs have in common whatsoever other then the number two in the title. :P
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10,000 Days was more like aenima part 2.
lol no
LOL Y NOT
It was nothing like Lateralus in any way. Right In Two was almost a complete re-write of 46+2.
I'm honestly struggling to find anything those two songs have in common whatsoever other then the number two in the title. :P
Right In Two sounds more like the Pushit rewrite from Salival.
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10,000 Days was more like aenima part 2.
lol no
LOL Y NOT
It was nothing like Lateralus in any way. Right In Two was almost a complete re-write of 46+2.
I'm honestly struggling to find anything those two songs have in common whatsoever other then the number two in the title. :P
Right In Two sounds more like the Pushit rewrite from Salival.
Wow, I can't believe I didn't notice this but you're right. I always thought Pushit from Salival was better than the album version.
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10,000 Days was more like aenima part 2.
lol no
LOL Y NOT
It was nothing like Lateralus in any way. Right In Two was almost a complete re-write of 46+2.
I'm honestly struggling to find anything those two songs have in common whatsoever other then the number two in the title. :P
Right In Two sounds more like the Pushit rewrite from Salival.
Wow, I can't believe I didn't notice this but you're right. I always thought Pushit from Salival was better than the album version.
I love the salival version too, especially the climax into the original.
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Yeah, the Salival version is a lot better IMO too. Maynard's intro, Danny & Aloke's tabla section, the climax is pretty intense (both versions are), and Danny's kit just sounds huge on Salival. His drum sound on Ćnima is a little thin to me.
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One of the finest re-arrangements.
Intension is just be-a-u-ti-ful. Love the tone and atmosphere. Finest bass sound I've heard yet.
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Maynard : " The Music is finished. Now I've just gotta write the lyrics to the music. "
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New Tool Album Expected Early in 2014
Drummer: 'We're trying to push things in different ways'
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/new-tool-album-expected-early-in-2014-20130716
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Any time now..................................................
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Cool. The wait will be worth it
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I won't believe it's coming out until I hold it in my hands.
Maybe not even then.
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Hey guys I'm from the future. The year is 2020 and so far we only got an EP with 3 songs.
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:lol
but seriously. :|
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It takes how long it takes. I just hope it's worth the wait, that's the part I'm agonizing over; not the wait itself. While I would love some new Tool, I never understood the agony some people emit over actually waiting...y'know, as if they're sitting there, ACTUALLY WAITING. :lol
Eh. Maynard has usually delivered ten fold in the past. Here's hoping.
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I won't believe it's coming out until I hold it in my hands.
Maybe not even then.
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I never understood the agony some people emit over actually waiting...y'know, as if they're sitting there, ACTUALLY WAITING. :lol
Yeh, when you consider how much people can get done while they are 'waiting', it's kind of a joke
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I never understood the agony some people emit over actually waiting...y'know, as if they're sitting there, ACTUALLY WAITING. :lol
Yeh, when you consider how much people can get done while they are 'waiting', it's kind of a joke
Most assuredly. No one here really does it but I have friends who will talk about it every day I see them and bitch and moan and blah blah blah... I'm thinking...if you really want to wait it out, forget about it, do something entirely different and it'll be here before you know it. Literally the only time I remember how long it's been is when I see this fucking thread pop up. :rollin
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Ditto :lol
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Orrrrr the band could stop being lazy/full of themselves/whatever and put out an album. It's hilarious when people criticize others for wanting music from a band they like more than once a decade.
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Orrrrr the band could stop being lazy/full of themselves/whatever and put out an album. It's hilarious when people criticize others for wanting music from a band they like more than once a decade.
If I had the choice between waiting a decade for a fantastic album, and waiting 3 years for a subpar, half assed effort...I would prefer the former.
Since Tool has never done a subpar album...I think they deserve a little leeway.
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Orrrrr the band could stop being lazy/full of themselves/whatever and put out an album. It's hilarious when people criticize others for wanting music from a band they like more than once a decade.
For the record, I don't criticize people for wanting music from bands they like. I criticize people for acting like bands are obligated to put out albums.
Anyway, how about you just pretend that Tool broke up? Then you won't expect them to make any music anymore, and if they ever do, it'll come as a pleasant surprise. And in the meantime, you don't have to spend all your time waiting and complaining about how much you're waiting.
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It's just hard to find other bands that use drop-D and play in D minor.
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Hey guys I'm from the future. The year is 2020 and so far we only got an EP with 3 songs.
"...and it was only two live songs and a KC cover :( but there ARE rumors of a full length next year :)"
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It's just hard to find other bands that use drop-D and play in D minor.
Cvmslvt.
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Can't we just pop in the new Karnivool, shut our eyes, and pretend we're listening to new Tool?
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Can't we just pop in the new Karnivool, shut our eyes, and pretend we're listening to new Tool?
used that idea just yesterday to someone.
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OR...if you wanted to get even closer to the sound of Tool you could check out Soen the band Martin Lopez went to after Opeth.
Almost Tool clones.
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Curious what they mean by trying to push things in different ways. Either way I'm sure it'll be a fun listen.
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Orrrrr the band could stop being lazy/full of themselves/whatever and put out an album. It's hilarious when people criticize others for wanting music from a band they like more than once a decade.
For the record, I don't criticize people for wanting music from bands they like. I criticize people for acting like bands are obligated to put out albums.
This. An artist...any artist...has no obligation to continue making art to the audience just because they made it in the first place, and no member of an audience has the right to assume an artist works under obligation to you, and at your schedule.
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Yeah, the attitude people have toward Tool is outrageous. Wanting new music is one thing, but acting like the band has some obligation to the audience is another.
I mean, that'd be like my boss telling me that I obligated to work for him forever, just because of all he's done for me so far.
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Curious what they mean by trying to push things in different ways. Either way I'm sure it'll be a fun listen.
Black then white are all I see in my infancy.
Red and yellow then came to be, reaching out to me.
Lets me see.
As below, so above and beyond, I imagine
Drawn beyond the lines of reason.
Push the envelope. Watch it bend.
:tup :tup
I, personally, can't wait. Not to say that I think they are obligated to continue releasing music, because I'd be fine if they didn't. It would just be a little disappointing, and that's my own fault.
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It's just that Metallica and Tool both have "promised" that the next album will come out in less than 5 years and in each case it's taken longer.
That's what starts to get annoying. I'm certainly not demanding that Tool or Metallica put out albums every two years...
But even Hetfield has said that he's "embarrassed" how few albums they have.
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It's just that Metallica and Tool both have "promised" that the next album will come out in less than 5 years and in each case it's taken longer.
That's what starts to get annoying. I'm certainly not demanding that Tool or Metallica put out albums every two years...
But even Hetfield has said that he's "embarrassed" how few albums they have.
I agree with this.
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:hug:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3bveYrlrlI&feature=youtu.be&utm_content=buffera9f06&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3bveYrlrlI&feature=youtu.be&utm_content=buffera9f06&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer)
This made me laugh, even though these type of videos have gotten old :lol
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This thread should get updated once a year with
" Still nothing ".
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Mofos need to just chill and let the boys do their thing. It's pretty fuckin' clear that nothing is gonna happen anytime soon. What with Maynard attempting to move things forward and the others kind of twiddling their thumbs...it's best to just forget it and have a happy surprise when they either announce something or it randomly releases. I find that keeping tabs on bands that take their sweet time is just self torture.
Quite frankly it's at their own leisure. I'd rather wait years and years for an album than to have them rush something and then the little fuckin' sheeps come out to baa and whine over the fact that they should have taken their time. Not that anyone here is a sheep.
Not that any human is a sheep. I like sheep. I hate humans. BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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I've been revisiting Lateralus a lot the last couple of weeks. It feels like a journey, patiently searching for perfection. I believe they achieved that beyond measure on the title track. A moment in rock history where music and lyrics collide into something that surpasses my entire concept of what music can be.
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I'm not actively waiting for a Tool album. I just find it funny that every time a Tool thread is updated - it's never with any news.
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That's because there's never any news.
Maybe we should use this thread to discuss their existing albums rather than wait in limbo for the new album which may or may not ever come out?
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Yes.
Lateralus - The Title track is something else.
Aenima
10,000 Days
Undertow.
Opiate.
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That's exactly how I'd rank them too.
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:hifive:
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Aenima
Lateralus
Undertow
10,000 Days
Opiate
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Lateralus - Tool's 'Dark Side of the Moon'
10,000 Days
Aenima
Undertow
Opiate
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Lateralus
Aenima
10 000 Days (a weaker Lateralus)
Opiate (totes different for them and rocking out and kinda fun)
Undertow (does did nothing for me. i think there was a brief period when i first got into Tool that it induced arousal, before i realized it was boring as fuck. i s'pose it's essentially the same thing as Opeth's My Farms, Your Horse for me)
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I know there are a few rogue Tool threads about certain albums including the future one, but I figured I'd make a definitive thread akin to the "THE" threads.
Alright so I just got my copy of Lateralus in the mail and I'm really excited to finally own a physical copy because the packaging is awesome. Also, there's a huge new entry on Tool's website with a nice question and answer e-mail type-up that confirms a 2011 United States East Coast tour!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here's the whole thing:
For the past couple of weeks several of the band members have been tirelessly jamming, writing and arranging new music for a forthcoming album (as Maynard finishes up the current APC tour and tends to certain zymurgical pursuits). Contrary to any rumors that might be circulating out there, Adam has not been in England for several weeks hunting pheasant, grouse, partridge, guinea fowl, woodcock, common snipe or any other commonly hunted galliformes. Forget about what you read in the "Upland Journal" - he hasn't been slogging through the pine-clad dales of Yorkshire, nor with shotgun in hand in the mist-enshrouded reed-beds of Cornwall, seeking his quarry. There are no castle hotels, flushing dogs, or unpredictable weather. Thanks to a battery-powered hypnobioscope (a truly remarkable device that I found at a flee-market in Pacoima!), I also know that he's currently not over in Merry Ole investigating Stonehenge, woolly rhinos, or hoaxing agro-glyphs for future comic book issues. Nor has he been studying oil painting and climbing Big Ben whilst eating a McDonald's Big Mac. Same goes for learning the proper way of eating a Mcvities' biscuit, or the buttery goodness of any Hobnobs, shortbread or Tim Tams with his cup of Earl Grey in the warmth of an ensorcelled peat fire in some rustic country house. If you saw someone who looked like Adam sipping ale served by grey-bobbed fustilugs in pubs with names like "The Three-Legged Mare", "Bucket of Blood", "Slug and Lettuce" or "The Hairy Lemon", it wasn't Tool's guitarist. So don't email me about him checking out the crinkum-crankum in any British pub with its real ale, good food, strange, cheerful staff and a very nice cat. No, like I've said - he's been working with his nanoguitar on a complex piece of music whose working title is "Floccinaucinihilipilification." Likewise, take it from this fanfaron that Danny hasn't been going to Lakers home games in his orange Lambo, flying in Gates' burnt-ends for Sunday K.C. Chiefs games (in some futile alexipharmic hope!), attending meetings with Evil Joe Barresi about a possible Volto recording project, purchasing a ribbon-controller and other vintage trifles for his modular monstrosities, nor engaging in strange mesonoxian rituals. As with Adam, the Tool drummer has been focusing all his energy on the new Tool material. Ditto for Justin. Forget anything you've heard about his renting out the SilverLake Cha Cha Lounge for a private party celebrating his 40th birthday, attempting to get forty of his friends to skydive (only to be cancelled due to bad weather conditions... and certain mesonoxian rituals on my part) or refurbishing a 17th-century sailing vessel. As sure as the retrieved Roswell saucer is hidden in an old Tootsie Roll factory in New Jersey, no tequila shots katzenjammer is going to keep him from developing those innovative bass parts!
E-MAIL
Q: "Blair, this is a TOOL website right? Well how about actually posting something TOOL related...anything would be nice. I mean I know Maynard makes wine and that's great and all but, what's going on with the band? Shit man, make something up if you have to, but people in New Orleans can't very well drive to Cali to see VOLTO or go to a wine signing so please, give us some news! Sincerely, Joseph."
A: From what I've been told, the band is planning on doing a 'secret' concert really soon in New Orleans. This is going to be a massive production with a horizontal holographic surround sound system based on the two-dimensional Fourier transform (or something like that). Besides the digitally created phase inversion of sonic holography, there will be lighting effects that include Fairchild plasma optoelectronics and the most advanced (legal) liquid-nitrogen-cooled multicolored laser system available - all of which will be filmed for a live DVD. Supposedly, the set list for this three-hour extravaganza will include MANY songs that the band hasn't played in years, including the "Lateralus" album in its entirety. Additionally, some of the guest performers include Robert Fripp, Jimmy Page, Terry Bossio, Tori Amos, and, of course, Harry Connick Jr. During the encore (a zydeco-rendition of "Hooker With A Penis"), Danny will summon Marie Laveau from the dead in order to reveal true 13 Phase Unity Merkaba Lightbody Activation (thus doing away with the need for any backstage passes!). After the show, as a tribute to all their fans in NOLA, the band will throw a spectacular backstage party, with tuxedoed and top-hatted zombies serving complimentary Dixie Beer, shots of absinthe, and iced champagne laced with Gib's "Bottled Hell." There will also be plenty of special Tool JAMBALAYA, red beans & rice, Jujube-studded flaming Bananas Foster and glittering Beignets! Volto! to support. And when it's all over, in order to keep the live DVD under wraps, all those in attendance will be zapped by a memory-erasing device (Acme Neuralyzer) that was borrowed from Level 7 of the underground facility at Archuleta Mesa in Dulce, New Mexico. Therefore, Joseph, it might be that you've already saw the show of all Tool shows. Even met the band members! Might that explain those Jujubes in your pocket?
Q: "Hello, I would like to know if Tool plans to go on another tour sometime soon? My boyfriend and I live in Virginia and he LOVES Tool! Tool is the only band he will go see in concert. He is one of the Best guys in the world who like many has had a bad year due to lack of work. I would love to surprise him with the opportunity to go to one of your shows and have been checking your site off and on for the past year. Everything has been out west and beyond. I hope you can respond back with good news. I look forward to hearing back from you."
A: Although I don't have any specific details, look for some American tour dates in 2011. East coast venues (possibly including Virginia) are a good possibility.
Q: "Is it a possibility that there will be posters with Adams artwork available at the Australian concerts? Cheers, Matt."
A: Yes, I would expect to see them at the merch booths for each venue. There might also be some left over SIGNED 2010 WEST COAST/CANADA TOUR POSTERS (and shirts) for sale as specialty items in the TOOLARMY SHOPPING BAZAAR in the near future.
Q: "Hello. Are you guys ever coming to San Antonio? That would really make my day! huh.... I guess I'm your youngest fan since I'm fourteen."
A: As a card-carrying member of "The Benevolent Order of Armadillos", I believe that they will (SOMEDAY), although hopefully by then the San Antonio "curse" will be lifted without further banishing rites, etc.
Q: "Will the band be releasing and official vinyl version of "10,000 Days" at all? And would they consider doing a re-issue of "Aenima" on vinyl for those of us who can't afford an original?"
A: I don't know about Aenima, but I'm fairly certain that "10,000 Days" vinyl will be released soon - this because I've recently seen some test-pressings at Danny's manse.
Q: "Hello! My name is ********* and I am enquiring about an all access pass to either Big Day Out Gold Coast on Jan 23rd or Brisbane Entertainment Centre on Jan 24th. I truly know how bloody cheeky this sounds, I actually feel quite bad about enquiring in the first place, but there is a valid reason. I'm not simply a die-hard who wants to meet the band (although I can't rule myself out of that category, either!). I have a ticket already to both of these events (albeit crappy ones). I will however, be 37 weeks pregnant (less than 3 weeks from popping), and can't bear the thought of missing out on the shows while the guys are in Oz. Big Day Out is going to be an interesting scenario because it is exactly that... a HUGE day out, sweltering sun, and no seating. Perfect for a woman the size of a house and about to bust at the guts. My ticket to the entertainment centre is in a silver reserved seat (only took 15 mins for the gold reserved to sell out while I was waiting patiently in line), and is up a MILLION flights of stairs. Again, perfect for the fatty. I'm not even sure who I should be contacting about this issue... but you seemed a good first try. Perhaps you can point me in the right direction? Again, I know I'm being cheeky, but it's worth asking in any case."
A: Banged up, by Jingo! Sounds like someone cracked a fat without a franger. Well, that's wonderful, dear! Nothing like ankle bitters and carpet grubs. Little nipper's gonna be a great croc hunter, I reckon. Though I'm currently busier than a one-armed taxi driver with crabs, here's what I suggest. Once you enter the BDO, with all those bloody yobbos and gutfuls of piss in your way, hoof it - flat out like a lizard drinking - towards the main stage area. Because it's right hot, be sure to take a breather at the first billabong (no worries about that bunyip - it's not as aggro as you've been told). Continue on, watching out for salties, dingos and such... The mozzies and kookas will be bad, but it's the same for every bastard and his dog. Once you've reached the third humpy, sneak around the first jumbuck acting the raw prawn (that's security, but there's no need to fart a crowbar) until you see a fella there with a face like a festered pickle in a brown Akubra. (He'll probably also be wearing a necklace of shark's teeth and other Aussie foofaraw.) Ask him to take you back to where the ambos, garbos, kangas, and divvy vans are parked. Back where the barbies are smoking shrimp for the band and crew. Here, the stage manager should be obvious as a pimple on a pumpkin. He's the fellow buzzing around like a blue-arsed fly. Tell him that your mate, BMB, sent you, and Bob's your uncle! He should be able to give you a seat that fits like a honeymoon cock.
HAPPY TRAILS
So...how was the show?
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https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/maynard_wants_nothing_to_do_with_tool_or_their_fans_insufferable_people_retards.html
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Damn it, Dave! I was literally about to post that when you ninja'd me. :lol
Except I prefaced it with: "I'm just gonna leave this here... :| "
Good stuff. I think this more or less confirms what most people who aren't foaming-at-the-mouth fans were thinking. It'll either be another long while, or it'll never happen. Which is fine by me. I've not been one to piss and moan about any album coming out even if its by one of my favorite bands (other than a "boy I'd love to have a new album by *so-and-so*). With Tool, I love some of their music a lot in handfuls but I'd be totally fine with their legacy being just that and left alone. Especially if the guy is this bitter and done with it as he seems to be. Now, I've made it clear that I'm definitely of the mind that bands should make music on their own terms and fans have all but jack shit of rights to say about it, especially when they get their thongs in a wad and bitch about it. I'm also of the mind that a whole lot of Tool fans, more so than a lot of others bands, are seething douchebags at times, it's still super shitty to say this. Granted, at this point people are basically throwing it in his face and mocking the guy. That much has been apparent for a while, so I do understand that he'd be pissed. Poke a bear with a stick enough times and you're going to get mauled. Still shitty and Maynard still has his head in the clouds. I don't think that's going away.
I guess all this is to say: Tool gonna be Tool. Tool fans gonna be Tool fans. Seriously, what did Maynard expect? "Ah, pardon good sir, might you have any updates on a forthcoming album? I don't mean to bother." :lol Eh!
*Anticipates/listens to other music that isn't comparable to Sasquatch/Loch Ness Monster/Area 51*
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I'm not waiting for a Tool album. The more excuses and bullshit they come up with the funnier it is.
It's like the whole band is pulling some kind of Andy Kaufman shit and there's no new music at all.
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At least with Metallica there is evidence they're in the studio at least and updates every once in a while.
With Tool ? Who knows...
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I seriously believe all the new album talk is shit. I don't think they've done a damn thing.
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I seriously believe all the new album talk is shit. I don't think they've done a damn thing.
There certainly has been no evidence to support the stories. No studio pictures or anything.
Just bullshit on their website about why it's taking so long.
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Whatever the go is, they should give their fans the respect to be upfront and honest. If there is no plans for an album, just tell us.
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For someone like me who doesn't really care one way or the other - if it ever comes out i'll check it out - it's just funny reading all their bullshit.
I can't imagine being a proper TOOL fan and reading everything they say and analysing it for any news at all.
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I do think they are writing music. There was the story a few months ago from Motorhead, who shares a rehearsal space with Tool. The Tool guys were in there writing music (minus Maynard I believe). Who knows, maybe he's not interested?
Fact is, they had that awful weird lawsuit, so they've gotta keep touring, even if it's really small chunks. If that's it though...
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I was going to say, I thought there was some kind of update, even if it was obscure and not really an actual update, but a veiled one at that...? :lol Either way I'm with ya Dave, especially on the Andy Kaufman comment, that's awesome. I couldn't care less either but if I had to guess, I'd guess that there is some visage of material out there, perhaps in pieces, maybe even a few songs, but I really doubt there is anything close to an actual, cohesive album that is being worked on steadily (or even on and off). I'm thinking that they know that their fanbase will violently grasp onto that hope and the band itself for long enough to milk whatever they can, hence the weird and random sales of band material/blankets/whatever-the-hell-else. The comment about the touring thing is what is really telling. Being ambivalent and/or taking decades to make an album is one thing but not touring or doing anything to even keep the band's name alive is a whole other concept. Kind of a shame but again, I'm far more than indifferent at this point and indeed Dave, it is getting to the point where you just have to laugh.
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What's funny is that they ask Maynard. He's said that he doesn't know and it's up to the other guys to provide him music to create melodies.
Why does no one interview Danny, Adam, or Justin. They write the music.
Also, good on Maynard for calling out the pissy fans. Most fans like that need that slap in the face.
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That's a good point, there are rarely any interviews from the others. But you know, I think that is an image and a routine that Maynard himself has perpetuated and wanted for quite some time. He's this mastermind that's oiling the very rusty parts of the machine that is Tool. But he usually knows how to play the fans that clamor for the album like heroine addicts pretty well. Like I said earlier, I completely agree about the fans and while not that all Tool fans are like this, there's a sect for every band, it just so happens that the Tool fan's sect is very large. Even for Maynard, those comments are pretty shitty. I mean...dude has to know what a lot of his fans are like. Surely. He has backed such things for a very fucking long time. This cannot come off as a surprise to him. :lol So on one hand I couldn't agree more. On the other, this is nothing new...'retards' and Tool have gone hand in hand for a really long time. I'm pretty sure there are some fans out there that, upon Maynard exclaiming, "Guys, the real reason for the Tool album delay is that I am actually New Horizons and have been taking pictures of planets, so bear with me", would jump up and say "TOLD YOU SO!" :P :angel:
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Why does no one interview Danny, Adam, or Justin. They write the music.
Fixed :) Alex Gray does the artwork .
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Why does no one interview Danny, Adam, or Justin. They write the music.
Fixed :) Alex Gray does the artwork .
Hahaha :facepalm: :loser: I have no idea why I put Alex.
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That's a good point, there are rarely any interviews from the others. But you know, I think that is an image and a routine that Maynard himself has perpetuated and wanted for quite some time. He's this mastermind that's oiling the very rusty parts of the machine that is Tool. But he usually knows how to play the fans that clamor for the album like heroine addicts pretty well. Like I said earlier, I completely agree about the fans and while not that all Tool fans are like this, there's a sect for every band, it just so happens that the Tool fan's sect is very large. Even for Maynard, those comments are pretty shitty. I mean...dude has to know what a lot of his fans are like. Surely. He has backed such things for a very fucking long time. This cannot come off as a surprise to him. :lol So on one hand I couldn't agree more. On the other, this is nothing new...'retards' and Tool have gone hand in hand for a really long time. I'm pretty sure there are some fans out there that, upon Maynard exclaiming, "Guys, the real reason for the Tool album delay is that I am actually New Horizons and have been taking pictures of planets, so bear with me", would jump up and say "TOLD YOU SO!" :P :angel:
My understanding of it is that a big part of the reason he doesn't stick around for applause and the big bow after shows is because he wants the spotlight to be on the band rather than him. People associate him as Tool and I don't think that's an association he wants or likes at all.
As for the recent article, here was my take on it posted elsewhere:
Nothing in that article suggests any ill-will towards Tool overall. Only that this gig wouldn't have been his first choice. As for the fans I agree with him. Tool seems to attract a surprisingly large number of hyper-aggressive fucksticks. I can sympathize with people who want to play artistic music that wind up having to cater to inbred drunkards who just want to beat the shit out of each other while Tool plays Ćnema and Stinkfist.
The smart move on their part would be to widely publicize "we will not be playing Ćnema, Stinkfist, Sober or Forty-Six & 2 on this tour. Come if you want to see the rest of our catalog." A whole lot of us would be thrilled to death to see that.
Also, I get the impression that Maynard digs the shit out of the music he does with Tool. I wouldn't expect him to ditch that, despite the annoying baggage that it brings along.
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Hm. I was aware of his social anxiety (of sorts) and playing behind a curtain, not being one to 'play the frontman' so to speak. But I suppose that's true.
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NA Tool tour announced. With a show in Charlotte, I'd definitely like to make it, but damn if those tickets aren't a bit pricey...
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Nothing came from that Q&A they did either.
I guess they mentioned new album questions were off limits. ::)
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Hopefully I can catch them in Charlotte, Nashville, or Atlanta. I want to take my brother and he has never seen them.
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Thinking of picking up tickets to the San Antonio show. I don't know.
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Well I bit the 102 dollar bullet. Hopefully it's a damn good show :lol
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Damn, I can't believe we used to complain about Ticketmaster a year ago. The whole thing has really become a mess now. Three of us tried to get seats to the local show and all struck out. I can't even get TM to offer me a single to the BOK show, but at this point I wouldn't bother with whatever they have left. Seems that only scalpers are allowed to purchase tickets with a high demand. Real shame.
On the bright side, I've seen this tour 4 times now. It's not like I'm missing anything new.
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Well I bit the 102 dollar bullet. Hopefully it's a damn good show :lol
o_o
The most i've ever paid for one gig is Ł50 to see Green Day at Wembley.
I think that's about the limit i'd ever spend. Considering the size of the band and the venue.
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Yeah it's by far the most I've ever paid for an individual ticket before. Though it works itself out because usually I'm buying for my girlfriend too and she's not into Tool. At least, not that tool :zydar:
That really sucks EB. I was concerned I wouldn't get in after the loading page idled for 15 minutes. Scalpers are the scum of the earth.
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Nah, I got no problem with scalpers. I just want the ticketing agencies to come up with some plan that's halfway fair and stick with it. And Tool bears quite a bit of responsibility here, as well. They're playing a 6300 seat venue here knowing full well that's about half what they need. There are a ton of options around here that meet their needs. By way of comparison, they're playing the same venue Dream Theater plays when bother with Dallas. `
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At least, not that tool :zydar:
:rollin
Anyway, I fucking hate scalpers and I fucking hate Ticketmaster. $102 is a lot but similar to what I paid to see them at Red Rocks a few years back.
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https://teamrock.com/news/2016-03-17/tool-album-delay-cant-move-forward-maynard-james-keenan
:rollin :rollin
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Fuck off Tool.
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Fuck off Tool.
10 years and they can't move forward. . . :rollin
Just write 75 minutes of music and put it out you absolute morons. :rollin
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Would love to seriously know what the fuck is up with these guys. What goes on in their heads with this shit. Do they think we are fucking morons or something?
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Hahaha seriously. :lol
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Yup, unless this is a bluff, they will hit ten years now.
And the more they draw it out, the more I doubt the album's gonna be that great.
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I remember a couple of years ago Danny said they'd finished writing it. Then their studio burned down...and they lost the ONE copy they had of the album and had to start writing from scratch...
:rollin ok . whatever.
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I still stand by my statement from a couple of years ago or whatever that there is no traces of a new album whatsoever. I doubt they have done a fucking thing.
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I bet they all think they're being really clever and funny in an oh-so-arty Andy Kaufman way.
But no it's just pathetic and everyone is laughing AT THEM not with them.
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That's what I'm confused about, do they think they are being funny and clever. Do they think dragging things out is building anticipation with the fans. I don't know, they whole thing is just bizarre really.
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They were done with their supposed lawsuit in January 2015. It's now well over a year later and they still haven't finished even writing it .... :rollin
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I really thought this band was special once. But come on, no one's THAT special....
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I accepted the fact that we would never get another Tool album back in 2006 or so, similar to how I accepted that PT died back in 2010. It's nice clinging onto hope and wanting there to be something more, but at least we got a nice run of albums from them.
To be honest I'm more saddened by the fact that I'll never get to see them live. They only seem to tour in America and do it mostly out of convenience, and whenever they need to pay their bills, so while I would be OK with not getting another album, I think a new album would be the only thing that could push them out on the roads to visit Europe again.
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Well, Adam does special effects work. So maybe it's all on him. Just not enough time to schedule
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What does that article even mean? :lol
Whatever, I stopped holding my breath a long time ago.
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Tool always struck me as a band who even in their prime struggled writing music. With a lot of artists you either have albums coming out every other year, or B-Sides released on EPs and such. With Tool, even back in their prime it was 5 years between albums, and nothing else really. Don't get me wrong, listening to Lateralus or Aenima, those albums are amazing, but I get the feeling they really squeezed everything out of the lemon, and what they got was the album we got. There were no B-sides because there was nothing else of quality left. And then they needed 5 years to recharge. Even 10 000 Days, which is IMO a good album, you can kinda tell that it starts off really strong but towards the end the quality seems to dip.
I don't know, just a feeling I have. Take someone like SW who has put out great music in many different projects with only a year apart (sometimes in the same year), he's definitely a guy who has an easy time writing music and it comes out really great. I'd say Tool were the opposite.
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Guitar wise they're not very technical. It's the bass and drums that provide that.
The guitar parts are really simple really.
Maybe Adam just has trouble writing because he's very limited as a guitar player.
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I actually quite like that. Tool's guitars have never been flashy, but they have some beastly riffs in their catalog. Personally I'd take the main riff in a song like Vicarious over any DT riff, even if Petrucci is a better guitarist, there's just something so groovy about the guitars in Tool. Jambi is another good example of that. I think it also gives them their unique sound, because it's really the drums and the bass driving the songs, and the guitars are more standard hardrock than they are typical prog guitars, and that makes them different.
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I love Adam's control over feedback and overall impact his playing has on atmosphere :hefdaddy
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Couldn't agree more with ya Zant. I really think they're just tapped out and know it. I don't think they've gone as far as to just outright tell bold face lies and haven't done anything, I mean at the very least there's one pretty neat instrumental, but that's not much. Even so, I'm sure there's a remnant of an idea of an album out there, but I'm sure over time we're going to hear and see little hints and such that they're setting up for a "Well, it won't ever come out" and/or "Well, Tool is done". I'd be really surprised to see it actually release, but I don't think it'd be because of some crazy conspiracy to string along everyone, I think it'd be because they know that the album wouldn't hold a candle to their past work and at this point even if it could, it'd be blown out by the dipshit, batshit crazy fans and their massive fucking pedestal they've put these men on. Half the problem is the insane fans and the other half is the band themselves. But yeah, more and more it's leaning on the band what with their interviews, the teasing, the predictions on when it'll be out.
Who knows? And at this point (other than the aforementioned twats), who cares? I doubt it'll ever release but if it does, it'll absolutely be an interesting experience regardless of whether it sucks or is amazing. I've been over them for a while now and it's become this kind of cultish aspect from the fans' perspective that they're still this massively talented machine. It's more like they're an artist who has a few really amazing paintings and everyone is expecting another one and then he draws some stick figures fucking each other and calls it a day.
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This new tool album is the Half-Life 3 of the music world.
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Honestly and truly.
Except at least Gabe and Valve aren't like "Oh yeah, toates, HL3 is coming right along"
*THREE YEARS LATER*
"Y'know, we're having a really hard time getting this new Headcrab design down"
*ONE YEAR LATER*
"Our Headcrab voice actor just quit on us. We're trying. I just want this fucking game done. DONE."
*FIVE YEARS LATER*
"Yeah Half Life 3 isn't coming out."
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This new tool album is the Half-Life 3 of the music world.
So it's the second Chinese Democracy then.
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This new tool album is the Half-Life 3 of the music world.
So it's the second Chinese Democracy then.
But at least that album did eventually happen.
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Yeah, but for a long time, it seemed to be something between a myth and a punchline. I remember a music mag doing an article of things that have happened since Axl Rose announced the Chinese Democracy, purposely hyperbolic stuff like "Pearl Jam have released 74 live albums". I don't even like Guns n Roses, but when that album was released, I remember walking into a music store and seeing it and thinking, wow, it actually exists. It was like seeing Bigfoot sitting in a cafe.
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Whether we get a new album or not, they've kinda shot themselves in the foot at this point. They could have gone out a long time ago and said the truth, but they've kept saying "yeah sure, we're working on music" for almost 10 years, which clearly isn't the case. Maybe it would be better for themselves not to release another album? If they did, I think people would expect an album even better than Lateralus or Aenima, because it's been 10 years in the progress, and there's no way current Tool could make an album that good again.
Scenario A (the most likely) is that Tool will continue to tour sporadically (whenever they need to pay their bills) and play their "best of"-setlists, and there won't be another album. They will continue talking about one in the pipeline, possibly even teasing some new riffs on tour, but ultimately nothing will come from it.
Scenario B is that we get another reunion-type of album that we have seen lately, similar to what Faith No More put out last year. One of those albums you listen to and go "oh yeah, this is pretty good I guess", but ultimately it fades away and doesn't hold up to the very best the band has put out.
Either way it's a shame. Tool is a really cool band with a unique take on Progressive Rock/Metal, but in 30 years as a band they have only managed to squeeze out 4 albums. Sure, I consider 3 of those great (or better) and the debut was solid, but it's still a shame they never built anything more on top of that. You have a lot of cult bands who put out a few amazing albums and then split up, but the frustrating part is that Tool isn't one of those bands. Tool has been active (with some pauses) and they're still very much a thing, yet their creative spark seem to have run out a long time ago. But to be fair, I think that started to show a bit on 10k Days already. As great of an album as it was, it didn't quite reach that level of Lateralus and Aenima, and parts of it did feel like going through the motions.
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It's Fucking Tool. Can't believe you don't understand.
Unless you do, and are dicking.
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Yeah, but for a long time, it seemed to be something between a myth and a punchline. I remember a music mag doing an article of things that have happened since Axl Rose announced the Chinese Democracy, purposely hyperbolic stuff like "Pearl Jam have released 74 live albums". I don't even like Guns n Roses, but when that album was released, I remember walking into a music store and seeing it and thinking, wow, it actually exists. It was like seeing Bigfoot sitting in a cafe.
That's true, and that was going on...what, like 10 or 11 years? Those years being ones after it was actually initially "announced" as in "yeah we're working on a new album". People for some reason seem to think that saying "it's been *this many* years since Tool released an album" is relevant to the longevity of the new album but I think that's kind of ridiculous. It's more appropriate to at least go by when the album was initially announced or even teased, so about...6 or 7 years? Tops? Maybe I'm misremembering though, but I can't remember hearing about anything of an actual "we're working on it" announcement before 2010...I wanted to say 2009 but I don't think even then.
It's still got a while before it's in the league of CD. It's just that for some reason Tool seems to have this aura about the band that just feel like they're fucking with people. Which is one they've cultivated for quite some time. So while it's a little different, yeah...definitely apropos. At least it's on its way to becoming the next CD but it's still a ways off. It's definitely similar for me in regards to whether or not I think (or thought in CD's case) that it will be released. Definitely not only didn't think CD would ever be released but after a while just forgot about it completely (and also completely moved on from GnR, granted). In the same way, I'm kind of past my Tool phase and while I still really love some tunes, it ends there. Even if this thing releases, I can't possibly imagine me doing anything but checking this out for sheer curiosity. If I end up loving the hell out of it and it's amazing, all the better; if it's shit, well there ya go; and if it never releases, it was expected. :lol
It's Fucking Tool. Can't believe you don't understand.
Unless you do, and are dicking.
Wait...what....does this mean? :lol
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I have no idea. Don't even remember posting that.
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:lol :yarr
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Yeah, but for a long time, it seemed to be something between a myth and a punchline. I remember a music mag doing an article of things that have happened since Axl Rose announced the Chinese Democracy, purposely hyperbolic stuff like "Pearl Jam have released 74 live albums". I don't even like Guns n Roses, but when that album was released, I remember walking into a music store and seeing it and thinking, wow, it actually exists. It was like seeing Bigfoot sitting in a cafe.
Actually....not hyperbole. That really happened.
In 2000 Pearl Jam officially released every show they played on the Binaural Tour to record stores. I believe there were actually 72 of them, so it was off by a couple, but still...
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Yeah to stop fans getting ripped off by terrible bootlegs.
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More bullshit?
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/update-on-new-tool-album/
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Maybe it's true, maybe it's not. But the news aside, Adam Jones says a lot of their music comes from getting together and jamming, and it's just mindboggling to me that a tight group of friends (who are in a band together since 20 years) can't find the time in 10 years to get together, jam it out, get a few song ideas over a weekend.
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Yeah in Kotow we jammed pretty much every day and came up with new ideas pretty much every day
And a new song at worst once a week.
We tried to play one new song at every gig.
Tool haven't finished writing an album in nearly ten years.
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Just a reminder that 10,000 Days turned 10 a few days ago...
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Just a reminder that 10,000 Days turned 10 a few days ago...
Wow, 10 years old, bloody hell!
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And they don't even have 80 minutes of new music :rollin :rollin.
I have a full time job and I still put out over 80 minutes of music every year ... It's mad that a band with their own studio and fuck loads of free time can't write a single CDs worth of music
in a fucking decade.
The last time Tool put out a new studio album - Death Magnetic was still 2 years away :lol
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Rumors have it that the next Tool album will be the soundtrack for Half Life 3
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And it will only be available on a brand new format which will replace CD.
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The album cover just got leaked
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/86/06/43/860643c0a0651a66d7fa43d4883bde76.jpg (https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/86/06/43/860643c0a0651a66d7fa43d4883bde76.jpg)
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Nice! What's the album gonna be called?
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Nice! What's the album gonna be called?
Animals.
Oh wait....
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"Maynard Loves The Pork"
Released on The 12th of Nevercember.
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And they don't even have 80 minutes of new music :rollin :rollin.
I have a full time job and I still put out over 80 minutes of music every year ... It's mad that a band with their own studio and fuck loads of free time can't write a single CDs worth of music
in a fucking decade.
The last time Tool put out a new studio album - Death Magnetic was still 2 years away :lol
This is purely speculation but I feel with Tool it's hard to get all the members to get interested in writing and recording at the same time. All of the members are loaded and have side projects, hell Maynard has his vineyard and Puscifer.
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For me - taking so long would make me itchy as fuck to put new music out and to write and jam.
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hell Maynard has his vineyard and Puscifer.
Plus he doesn't give a single fuck.
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hell Maynard has his vineyard and Puscifer.
Plus he doesn't give a single fuck.
And if they were smart - neither would Tool fans.
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do people even think another tool album would even be any good, 10,000 Days already shows heavy signs of their sound just wearing thin, it's no wonder they haven't released anything bcuz they probably realized there was nothing more worth releasing in that vein
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Yeah, but for a long time, it seemed to be something between a myth and a punchline. I remember a music mag doing an article of things that have happened since Axl Rose announced the Chinese Democracy, purposely hyperbolic stuff like "Pearl Jam have released 74 live albums". I don't even like Guns n Roses, but when that album was released, I remember walking into a music store and seeing it and thinking, wow, it actually exists. It was like seeing Bigfoot sitting in a cafe.
Actually....not hyperbole. That really happened.
In 2000 Pearl Jam officially released every show they played on the Binaural Tour to record stores. I believe there were actually 72 of them, so it was off by a couple, but still...
Oh, I know it’s true. I have one of those 70-something live albums. I just meant it’s hyperbole to state something like that as a gauge of how long the album’s been in the works since it’s obviously an extreme exception that a band releases 70 live albums.
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do people even think another tool album would even be any good, 10,000 Days already shows heavy signs of their sound just wearing thin, it's no wonder they haven't released anything bcuz they probably realized there was nothing more worth releasing in that vein
And the more they draw it out, the more I doubt the album's gonna be that great.
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do people even think another tool album would even be any good, 10,000 Days already shows heavy signs of their sound just wearing thin, it's no wonder they haven't released anything bcuz they probably realized there was nothing more worth releasing in that vein
Yes. A lot of that album sounded like old songs re hashed.
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It's basically confirmed that will happen. The new song "Descending" they were playing on tour just sounds like the alt arrangement of "Pushit" among several other songs.
They have one style and it peaked on Lateralus. The only places left are offkilter shit like the talkbox solo in "Jambi."
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It's basically confirmed that will happen. The new song "Descending" they were playing on tour just sounds like the alt arrangement of "Pushit" among several other songs.
They have one style and it peaked on Lateralus. The only places left are offkilter shit like the talkbox solo in "Jambi."
Which is funny why the band is viewed as the pinnacle of the art of rock. Adam Jones has milked drop D to its absolute near death. While his style is his own, and he writes great riffs, they are not that far off each other.
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Adam is easily the least talented musician in the band. Justin and Danny are phenomenal. TOOL are all about that rhythm section.
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do people even think another tool album would even be any good, 10,000 Days already shows heavy signs of their sound just wearing thin, it's no wonder they haven't released anything bcuz they probably realized there was nothing more worth releasing in that vein
I think this another issue as well, how do you write Tool while staying fresh and not rearranging past riffs.
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A new tuning would help.
:p
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Adam is easily the least talented musician in the band. Justin and Danny are phenomenal. TOOL are all about that rhythm section.
Umm... Maynard?
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That has really been my concern all along, Tool never felt like a band with amazing creative juices or anything. Aenima and Lateralus were amazing, but it became clear on 10K Days that the band was essentially running out of ideas. It had some IMO cool experiments like Jambi, which is definitely a stand out, and the title track felt pretty unique as a really good ballad that eventually explodes. But parts of 10K Days also felt very B-Sides quality, like ideas that were leftover because they weren't good enough for Lateralus, but then when it became time for a new album, they didn't really have anything else, so they used it anyway.
You have certain musicians like Steven Wilson who just keeps putting out albums over the years. Whether it's PT, Blackfield, Bass Communion, No-Man, Solo, he always has ideas and a lot of them are good. I don't love everything he has done, but if he puts out a sub-par album, there is usually a good one to redeem it 12 months later. With Tool, even in their glory days they struggled to come up with a lot of material. Sure, the band is pretty busy now and there are side projects, other interests and so on, but going back to their prime around Aenima/Lateralus when the band was at their peak, even that period is scarse with material. You have one album every five years and they haven't exactly been putting out EPs or B-Side releases either. It's almost like it takes Tool a good 5 years to fill a bucket of ideas that will be just enough for a new album, then the vault is completely drained of ideas and they need another 5 years. But I guess it has been 10 years this time. :lol
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10,000 days is alright. I loved it when it was released. Think I'll revisit it again, it's been quite awhile.
I don't think it's a problem of ideas. Since, they are a rhythm based band, plus they tend to play in the lower ends of music with Adam basically coloring in with textures and sounds. Also, Danny uses some interesting patterns that reflect his tabla and spiritual music leanings, like monk chants.
I don't know. Nor do I care when they release their next album. I do know I'll buy it instantly.
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Read my mind, Ben.
I myself quite like 10kD, and some of the often labeled filler tracks are the ones I enjoy most. Either way this new album business goes, if it releases at all that is and if this isn't one really hilarious, awesome butt-fucking of the fans, then I'll pick it up if for nothing else, out of sheer curiosity.
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10,000 Days was all the rage when I first signed up for DT.net in 2006. Now it isn't that great?
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Adam is easily the least talented musician in the band. Justin and Danny are phenomenal. TOOL are all about that rhythm section.
Umm... Maynard?
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Read my mind, Ben.
I myself quite like 10kD, and some of the often labeled filler tracks are the ones I enjoy most. Either way this new album business goes, if it releases at all that is and if this isn't one really hilarious, awesome butt-fucking of the fans, then I'll pick it up if for nothing else, out of sheer curiosity.
The segues on 10,000 Days aren't quite as shit or pointless as the 5 or so on Aenima.
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Vocalists not being musicians is something I can actually get behind :neverusethis:
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vocalists are musicians
also i've tried listening to aenima and i kind of hate it tbh, way too "edgy" and unappealing for me
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vocalists are musicians
also i've tried listening to aenima and i kind of hate it tbh, way too "edgy" and unappealing for me
Try harder, it's their best ;)
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nah. i'm done with tool tbh. not worth it when there's so much better music to check out
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nah. i'm done with tool tbh. not worth it when there's so much better music to check out
Especially when that "Descending" thing they've been playing live sounds exactly like 10,000 Days.
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Umm.....
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13083093_10209726045331632_4661245683937903400_n.jpg?oh=5471edf47d38fc739111c555ca24f924&oe=579E2A6A)
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:lolpalm:
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nah. i'm done with tool tbh. not worth it when there's so much better music to check out
I'm pretty much the same. I liked Lateralus, 10,000 Days started really good but lost me after like the 4th song or so. I can try to put effort into getting used to a band, but why bother if I can listen to music that I know I will like from the get-go.
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I think it's amusing going back and reading updates from Tool from like 2008/2009 with them saying "Yeah we have the music done, just need to work on lyrics/vocals" and "the album is definitely coming next year". Tool might just be the original trolls since before trolling became a thing. :lol
Would honestly not be surprised if Maynard or Adam Jones puts out a biography in 10 years and they say "yeah so we never worked on music after 10K Days at all".
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Would honestly not be surprised if Maynard or Adam Jones puts out a biography in 10 years and they say "yeah so we never worked on music after 10K Days at all".
Yup. My current position is :-
• All the updates are hilarious reading.
• I don't care if it comes out or not.
• If it does i'll check it out.
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I kind of do believe they have been working on music but for whatever reason they're just not doing much with it. Adam Jones seems to be the main creative force in the band. Remember the Vicarious video and how long it took to come out? Yea, this album ain't coming out soon if at all. The fact Maynard keeps releasing new Puscifer just reinforces this.
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I don't even remember a Vicarious video :lol
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Tool videos aren't anything great tbh.
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I'm sure someday out of nowhere they'll announced the new record.
Wasn't Maynard even supposed to have been working on the vocals for it? It's GOTTA be soon.
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I don't believe a word they say until there's a CD out.
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I don't believe a word they say until there's a CD out.
This
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Until the fans unite and stop believing the shit this band keeps saying about the mystery album, they will just keep doing it.
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I'm sure someday out of nowhere they'll announced the new record.
Wasn't Maynard even supposed to have been working on the vocals for it? It's GOTTA be soon.
I hate to piss on your parade but people have been saying that since 2008 or something.
At this point I wouldn't even believe it if I held the album in my own hands. I'd just go "This is a really good bootleg someone made that looks legit".
I probably wouldn't even believe it even if I was listening to it. I would just think "This must be Karnivool doing their best to make an album that sounds just like Tool"
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Y'know, for a band that needed money to fight a legal battle so badly they sold blankets made out of recycled t-shirts for $100, in all this time they could have reissued Ćnima on vinyl at least once.
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Do you think they were telling the truth when they claimed to be writing music? I remember an update last year saying they had finished up the music for an "epic" long song. And not long ago Maynard claimed he was working on vocals/lyrics. Do you think they were making this all up?
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Ya...but didn't they say that there was an accident and at one point everything they had been working on had been lost?
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I probably wouldn't even believe it even if I was listening to it. I would just think "This must be Karnivool doing their best to make an album that sounds just like Tool"
Hell - even TOOL fans don't even think 10,000 Days is a legit TOOL album. :lol
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Ya...but didn't they say that there was an accident and at one point everything they had been working on had been lost?
The studio burned down and the ONE computer that had all the music on was destroyed like there were no backups at all :lol
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Same thing happened to Gamma Ray when their studio burnt down. They started again and the album was only delayed by 12 months.
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Ya...but didn't they say that there was an accident and at one point everything they had been working on had been lost?
The studio burned down and the ONE computer that had all the music on was destroyed like there were no backups at all :lol
That's what happened to Green Day when they were making American Idiot, only theirs were "stolen" and they had start over from scratch.
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Ya...but didn't they say that there was an accident and at one point everything they had been working on had been lost?
The studio burned down and the ONE computer that had all the music on was destroyed like there were no backups at all :lol
That's what happened to Green Day when they were making American Idiot, only theirs were "stolen" and they had start over from scratch.
I'm still waiting for those unreleased songs to get leaked some how. Someone has them, it's only a matter of time right?
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I think what actually happened was they wrote an album and realised it didn't cut the mustard and deliberately started over.
It's been 12 years and no songs from it have ever surfaced...?
Right...
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I hope the next album is thematically similar to Lateralus. That album was a deep spiritual journey. Brilliant.
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I hope the next album is thematically similar to Lateralus. That album was a deep spiritual journey. Brilliant.
What next album?
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You just know that if Tool actually had older songs that were unreleased laying around, they would just crank those out as a "new album" now and say "that's what we were working on all along".
I don't know what's worse, the fact that there hasn't been an album in a decade, or that the band doesn't even seem excited about working together or creating new music.
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I remember when the band was worried about Maynard working with APC. Clearly there was no reason to be worried. But I'm worried, hell, just released a new album. Also I remember hearing that during the recording of 10 000 Days Maynard wasn't even in the studio with Adam and the rest of them, for what it's worth.
But I got a feeling it's not Maynard who is the problem. It's Adam, for whatever reason. It's a real shame. Although they're still playing live regularly.
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They've said before they don't like writing with Adam as he won't be happy until they've tried every possible way a song can go so they know they've picked the best one and it's an absolute chore.
I'm curious now. What on happened when you were writing 'The Pot'? ( when you didn't get on ) ?
Oh, it's just that our work ethics differ, I suppose. Maynard's definitely a person who relies on a flash of inspiration. No-one ever wants to second-guess him because he convicts right away, whereas Adam just wants to try every possibility over and over again. With 'The Pot', Adam knew that the very first thing we tried really was a flash of inspiration but he was not going to let it go until he'd tried every conceivable way of doing things, so by the end of it we really were ready to kill him. But when we're really ready to try something out, then we want to kill Maynard because he gets frustrated and doesn't want to keep working. And of course, we think Maynard's lazy and we think Adam's a slave-driver and we all get close to death. It all falls somewhere in the middle ground where it all makes sense, but it's just so difficult at times. These little idiosyncrasies of our different personalities come out and they drive you crazy, especially after fifteen or sixteen years.
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Wow. (https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/upcoming_releases/fans_claim_tool_just_confirmed_new_album_release_date_with_this_cryptic_letter.html)
So most often, I usually get more annoyed with people bitching out "so-and-so's fans" than the actual fans. Not so in Tool's case. By light years...the most insane thing about Tool is...the fans. The motherfucking fans. Jesus christ. I almost laughed but then I felt a surge of pity.
Even so, this is hilarious. Even if it isn't actually "funny". :| :millahhhh :yeahright
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Tool fans always find a way to stretch it out.
But...August is 2-3 months away which is perfect timing for promotional stuff, a summer release and potential touring.
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It's Blair. He *always* talks in riddles. I'd be willing to bet it means precisely fuck all.
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It's Blair. He *always* talks in riddles. I'd be willing to bet it means precisely fuck all.
Yeah. I hate that guy. Very obnoxious.
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TOOL "newsletters" are nothing but mystical sounding psychobabble horseshit which says precisely nothing.
" Today 'Danny' found a stone whilst traversing the upper echelons of the firmament of downtown LA whilst contemplating the myriad cornucopia of aztec ritual eschatology that might well have been a
primeval origin from a temple which might even have been configured into a pentangle dragon summoned from Hades in 600 BC ! "
"newsletter"
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Yeah that too. I know fuck all about him and he still annoys the hell out of me.
Then again...I don't think it's a stretch to say that he gets away with it precisely because he knows he can troll the fans and they'll go to it like a moths to a flame.
If peeps calmed the fuck down he'd probably go away. Easy to fool people foaming at the mouth.
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https://teamrock.com/news/2016-06-07/tool-announce-3-october-dates
TOOL Announce Three US Dates in October.
:lol Woah slow down you maniacs ! An entire three dates !!!
Also - in Very Late October ? That means the album won't be out BEFORE that then...
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Yep, Denver tickets go on sale Friday. Crossing my fingers! Last time they played here (at Red Rocks) shit sold out instantly and prices got jacked up by the asshole scalpers. They're playing at an inferior venue this time, not one I'd pay $100 to go to, so if I don't get my own tickets I'm probably out.
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Well, after a very stressful 15 minutes this morning I did indeed get tickets. I was not able to get more than one at a time, using my phone and my laptop, so I got two separate tickets. They were 95 bucks plus fees each, but the seats are actually pretty good. I'm in the first row of a section close to the stage but not right up front. I am excited!
My coworker, on the other hand, was not so lucky... She ended up buying from some other website and paid almost seven hundred bucks for two tickets! I am not that hardcore.
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I've still never seen Tool, and the last "mini tour" didn't come to Seattle. I wish they would just do a full blown tour....even if they don't release an album.
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Nobody buy tickets until they release the next album. I couldn't care less about new live dates right now. Metal needs new Tool. Especially the radio, considering for some weird reason Tool actually gets airplay.
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Nobody buy tickets until they release the next album. I couldn't care less about new live dates right now. Metal needs new Tool. Especially the radio, considering for some weird reason Tool actually gets airplay.
I'd actually LOVE it if all TOOL fans did this.
" ::) Um. NO . We're not buying a single ticket until you release the album "
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Lol entitlement :\
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If I had chance to see them, I wouldn't miss it. I stopped believing in new album, so better nothing than new album just for sake of it.
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Their official website is probably the shittest band site online.
It's like it hasn't been updated since 2001.
There's not even any mention of 10,000 Days.
It's not even in the discography.
Awful.
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LOL... :lol
https://teamrock.com/news/2016-06-29/buzz-osborne-shortest-track-on-upcoming-tool-album-is-12-minutes-long
In a feature on the Melvins' back catalogue, Osborne says while discussing 1994's Stoner Witch: "I think it was the longest time we ever spent in the studio actually, 19 days, which for us is a long time.
"Bands like Tool obviously spend about six months on their albums, and they’ve spent about 10 years putting together the new one.
"And they haven’t even started recording yet, but Adam told me the shortest song they’ve been working on is 12 minutes long.
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LOL... :lol
"And they haven’t even started recording yet.
:rollin :rollin :rollin :lolpalm: :lolpalm: :lolpalm:
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Woooooowwwww.
It's basically turning into the equivalent of a reality TV show. Truly. I mean...it has been, but now it's full force.
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LOL... :lol
https://teamrock.com/news/2016-06-29/buzz-osborne-shortest-track-on-upcoming-tool-album-is-12-minutes-long
In a feature on the Melvins' back catalogue, Osborne says while discussing 1994's Stoner Witch: "I think it was the longest time we ever spent in the studio actually, 19 days, which for us is a long time.
"Bands like Tool obviously spend about six months on their albums, and they’ve spent about 10 years putting together the new one.
"And they haven’t even started recording yet, but Adam told me the shortest song they’ve been working on is 12 minutes long.
Well crap, if that's the case, that might explain why we've waited so damn long. If it takes them 5 years to put out a 70-minute album with songs that don't go too far above 10 minutes, can you imagine an album of songs 12-minutes and above?! They've probably spent a month for each minute of each song!!!
-Marc.
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Yeah - no band could possibly put out an album of songs which are no shorter than 10 minutes every two years...
That's just not possible...
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10,000 Days was 10 years ago. Just think of everything you've done in your life since May 2006. It's mad.
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You'd think that if the band REALLY wanted to make another album, they would have done it by now. Don't get me wrong, they probably want to put out another album (it's free money after all), but the passion or fire is clearly not strong. I just think about The Dear Hunter and how they put out one of the best albums of 2015 and are already putting out their next this fall. Striking while the iron is hot. Meanwhile Tool has gone 10 years since 10k Days without recording anything.
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Their official website is probably the shittest band site online.
It's like it hasn't been updated since 2001.
There's not even any mention of 10,000 Days.
It's not even in the discography.
Awful.
That STUNS me. I'm not the biggest Tool fan in the world - though I have everything except for "Opiate", and would buy the new album - and so I don't care about 10 years between releases, but I thought Adam was some kind of multi-media wiz; I would think he would demand that the website be at least semi-current.
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https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/upcoming_releases/tool_are_about_to_reveal_secrets_about_new_album_theyve_kept_for_years_people_need_to_know.html?no_takeover
...and right as I make that reality TV show comment. :rollin :lol
I swear the only thing missing from this is "YOU WON'T BELIEVE WHAT TOP TEN CRAaAaAaAaAZY THINGS BLAIR FOUND IN TOOL'S CLOSET! (https://consequenceofsound.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/rickroll01.jpg)"
Seriously...this guy should've been fired years ago. That's the secret.
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Dear Lord
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Maynard : " I write lyrics and vocal melodies to music. I can't do that if there's no music ".
:lol
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That STUNS me. I'm not the biggest Tool fan in the world - though I have everything except for "Opiate", and would buy the new album - and so I don't care about 10 years between releases, but I thought Adam was some kind of multi-media wiz; I would think he would demand that the website be at least semi-current.
The fact that 10,000 days isn't even featured on their official website means the site - apart form Blair's nonsensical ramblings - hasn't been updated since 2001.
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I'm surprised people even give a crap about the band anymore. It's obvious they don't care, why should I?
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I'm surprised people even give a crap about the band anymore. It's obvious they don't care, why should I?
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Is this officially worse than Chinese Democracy at this point?
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Is this officially worse than Chinese Democracy at this point?
That took 15 years or more. Depending if you count from their last album proper or from The Spaghetti Incident.
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NV
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https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/upcoming_releases/report_tool_releasing_double_album_called_decem_this_fall_its_over_25_hours_long.html
:corn :corn :corn :corn :corn :corn :corn :corn :corn :corn :corn :corn :corn :corn :corn :corn :corn :corn
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:lol I posted that exact rumour but since OP deleted his reddit post I assumed it was already debunked.
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Ahhh. Yeah it's some awesome clickbait.
Fuck that hypothetical album. I wouldn't get past the first couple songs.
It's basically a giant cumshot of pretentiousness right to the face.
.....oh fuck maybe it is real.
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That's outrageous......it's even longer than The Astonishing :lol
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i sure hope this is legit so i can safely ignore the album entirely. no way am i buying a 160 minute album from a band way past their prime :corn
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Actually, one of the more interesting things about the entire thing to me is that you can't tell the Tool trolls from Tool themselves....because they troll as much as their fans do.
That occurred to me as I was looking at the story and the track listing. As soon as you start thinking how ridiculous it is...it suddenly starts to seem plausible.
I mean, look at that track listing. Isn't something like this HONESTLY the only thing they could do to be more bombastic than 10,000 Days?
Disc 1:
1. Abscissa (13:47)
2. The Awakening (12:03)
3. Gematria (Act I) (14:33)
4. Regresolution (13:56)
5. Divinotus (12:45)
6. Astral (Act II) (12:21)
Disc 2:
7. Descending (13:53)
8. Decem (12:22)
9. Lesous (Act III) (12:43)
10. Principles of March (12:01)
11. Pascal's Wager (13:46)
12. Zeta (Act IV) (14:27)
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As soon as you start thinking how ridiculous it is...it suddenly starts to seem plausible.
I mean, look at that track listing. Isn't something like this HONESTLY the only thing they could do to be more bombastic than 10,000 Days?
Disc 1:
1. Abscissa (13:47)
2. The Awakening (12:03)
3. Gematria (Act I) (14:33)
4. Regresolution (13:56)
5. Divinotus (12:45)
6. Astral (Act II) (12:21)
Disc 2:
7. Descending (13:53)
8. Decem (12:22)
9. Lesous (Act III) (12:43)
10. Principles of March (12:01)
11. Pascal's Wager (13:46)
12. Zeta (Act IV) (14:27)
I'm no fan of Tool - actually, I have never listened to any music from them - but I've been checking this thread for some time.
There are a few references to mathematics in the titles ('abscissa', 'gematria', 'Pascal', 'zeta'). How much of an influence does math have in the band's music? I read about some time signatures/rhythms composed based on the Fibonacci sequence or something like that.
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As fake as this album probably is, I gotta admit those titles sound pretty cool and somewhat legit.
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It sounds more like some fan's fantasy than anything real.
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I think it's almost certainly fake. At first I thought that maybe it could be legit because a while back we heard a rumour that the album would be a double album with no song under 10 minutes, but then I realized that some fan probably just wrote a fake tracklist based on that rumour.
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Surprised they didn't make a fake artwork to go with it.
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Yeah, that ain't real.
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No way I'm getting an album this long from Tool when I can't even get through 10,000 Days without getting bored.
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No song under 12 minutes? Yeah, I ain't buying into that.
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I will say that IF Tool ever made another album (which I don't think will happen), I wouldn't be surprised if it just showed up one day - Radiohead marketing style. No long campaign of "the album is coming in September" followed by 2 singles and creating a buzz, I think Tool would just drop it. And chaos would happen.
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My new theory, Tool's new album is the soundtrack to Half-Life 3
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I remember when everyone thought the 10,000 days title and track listing was fake. Look how that turned out. Hmm...seems odd this happened to come out and on reddit. But it is most likely fake.
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I remember when everyone thought the 10,000 days title and track listing was fake. Look how that turned out. Hmm...seems odd this happened to come out and on reddit. But it is most likely fake.
Someone probably googled " Ten in latin / greek " and came across Decem and thought that'll do.
We should find out who did this...
...and Deck 'em. :hat
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Hahahhahahahah(JLB Three Days Laugh)
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In response to the rumors, Maynard James Keenan posted this on twitter :
@Tool @ToolMusic @puscifer @aperfectcircle #dumb
So, yeah, dumb.
MJK have written a biography, and is starting a book tour soon. He'll be touring with Puscifer in the fall. As it seems the recording hasn't even started, it is very unlikely the new Tool album will come out this year.
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Yawn..... moving on.
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As expected.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj_xjzyAarA
Justin talks about bass playing and plays some TOOL.
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I'm sorry (https://youtu.be/zXWlauFT5Ag)
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I Honestly like that Alternate Track list of Lateralus.
Parabol(a)
Schism
Ticks
Mantra
Lateralus
The Patient
Disposition
Eon Blue
Reflection
The Grudge
Triad
Faaip De Oiad
It is really interesting. Because the title track is in Fibonacci, and the middle two tracks flow seemingly into another.
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I tried this once and it sounded crap to me.
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I tried this once and it sounded crap to me.
Everything sound like crap to you.
Haha...anyways it is interesting how crafted Lateralus is.
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Lateralus sounds fine as it is :lol
I used to post at the TOOL forum and some people there were absolutely obsessed and think the album was a decoy for the new album which is yet to materialise...
The fibbonacci album was FACT and that songs are a certain length for a specific reason.
it's hilarious.
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Isn't that the case with every single Tool album? A part of the fanbase keeps saying how the just released album is not the real album because they don't like it and then go on to say the real album will drop soon.
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Isn't that the case with every single Tool album? A part of the fanbase keeps saying how the just released album is not the real album because they don't like it and then go on to say the real album will drop soon.
So for some fans - the last TOOL album was Lateralus in 2001 - 15 years ago :rollin
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I tried this once and it sounded crap to me.
Everything sound like crap to you.
Haha...anyways it is interesting how crafted Lateralus is.
Kotowboy: unhappy with everything
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Lateralus is Tool's best album. I douht they'll ever top it. It's the quintessential Tool album.
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I tried this once and it sounded crap to me.
Everything sound like crap to you.
Haha...anyways it is interesting how crafted Lateralus is.
Kotowboy: unhappy with everything
:angry:
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I tried this once and it sounded crap to me.
Everything sound like crap to you.
Haha...anyways it is interesting how crafted Lateralus is.
Kotowboy: unhappy with everything
:angry:
By being unhappy with that post you're just reinforcing his point :biggrin:
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I tried this once and it sounded crap to me.
Everything sound like crap to you.
Haha...anyways it is interesting how crafted Lateralus is.
Kotowboy: unhappy with everything
:angry:
By being unhappy with that post you're just reinforcing his point :biggrin:
:angry:
( why can't you do green font with emoticons ? :lol )
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1. I'm seeing Tool next week!! :dangerwillrobinson:
2. I had a special experience with the first half of Lateralus on Sunday.
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Anyone ever tried the supposed synchronised song ?
I've heard a supposed proper version and funnily enough it sounds like 2 songs playing at the same time.
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2. I had a special experience with the first half of Lateralus on Sunday.
Intriguing.
(https://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv41/zeddscat/Emotions/Intriguing/FrankenfurterEyebrow.gif)
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Anyone ever tried the supposed synchronised song ?
I've heard a supposed proper version and funnily enough it sounds like 2 songs playing at the same time.
Yeah, it's hilariously awful, jumbled crap when Wings 1 plays over 2; too bad they didn't record to a click, I guess. It's less offensive with VT playing over top though.
Still doesn't beat the chaotic Kid 17, though, for the prize of dumbest fan theory with zero results.
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Still doesn't beat the chaotic Kid 17, though, for the prize of dumbest fan theory with zero results.
I bet TOOL looked at WFM and 10,000 Days and thought - hey there's 5 minutes difference between them. Let's just shove on 5 mins of white noise at the end and call it something
vaguely cryptic like Viginti Tres and fans will think it meenz sumfing.
please explain the Kid 17 theory.
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You've also heard that theory that OK Computer and In Rainbows are supposed to match up ? ::)
This just smacks of fanboys trying to make out their perfect bands are more amazing than they actually are...
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Yes I tried that one song. Some parts sounded pretty cool like the 10,000days wings pt 1 ending bounce back.
I view the Lateralus track list no different than people making alternate track lists for albums.
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It's a bit annoying when you get multitudes of fan edits and they're all like " this is how it SHOULD have been " instead of " this is how I PREFER it "...
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It's a bit annoying when you get multitudes of fan edits and they're all like " this is how it SHOULD have been " instead of " this is how I PREFER it "...
Doesn't bother me one bit. I'll check it out and be that wssnt bad at all. Sometimes though I'll forget my iPod is on shuffle when I put on an album and sometimes it does marvelous lists.
Intension though has to be their underrated gem. It was amazing live and the lights during it made me wish I bought seats in the stands and not the GA section.
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" TOOL have two albums worth of new material but only 5 songs that are good enough " says Adam Jones...
Best part :
" There is still no timetable for the new TOOL album's release or even the beginning of its recording sessions. "
:rollin :rollin :corn :corn
Their supposed lawsuit was over in March 2015 and it's getting pretty close to 18 months ago and still no recording sessions in sight.
Holy LOL...
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" TOOL have two albums worth of new material but only 5 songs that are good enough " says Adam Jones...
Best part :
" There is still no timetable for the new TOOL album's release or even the beginning of its recording sessions. "
:rollin :rollin :corn :corn
Their supposed lawsuit was over in March 2015 and it's getting pretty close to 18 months ago and still no recording sessions in sight.
Holy LOL...
Not surprised about this at all... :biggrin:
There was a time when i was holding my breath for this new Tool album, that was a long time ago.
I'm betting, that this thing will never see the light of day.
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18 months. A Year and a half with all that free time and they still haven't recorded anything yet.
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Oh man.
In better news, the show in Denver last night was amazing! My seat was surprisingly awesome- I was about 20 rows back with few obstructions. The sound was a bit off for 2-3 songs but otherwise great.
Apparently some local taco joint offered Maynard free tacos for life if he shouted them out on stage, so he mentioned that, and then during Opiate he sang "we both want/free tacos" :lol :\
I was really happy to hear that song, and a lot of Lateralus. What was weird was they played for about 90 minutes, then there was a 12-minute intermission, then they just played for another 20 minutes. My friend suggested it may have been because of weird noise laws in town and them not realizing they had to wrap up as early as they did. Either way the set was great! Very glad I got there and was able to get tickets directly vs. from a scalper. My coworker paid $700 for two, which is absolutely fucking absurd. I would never pay that much for a concert ticket unless it included cunnilingus from the band.
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Apparently Adam jones played a fan a new riff at the M&G before the show...
:lol or something he just made up because there is no new music.
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Oh man.
In better news, the show in Denver last night was amazing! My seat was surprisingly awesome- I was about 20 rows back with few obstructions. The sound was a bit off for 2-3 songs but otherwise great.
Apparently some local taco joint offered Maynard free tacos for life if he shouted them out on stage, so he mentioned that, and then during Opiate he sang "we both want/free tacos" :lol :\
I was really happy to hear that song, and a lot of Lateralus. What was weird was they played for about 90 minutes, then there was a 12-minute intermission, then they just played for another 20 minutes. My friend suggested it may have been because of weird noise laws in town and them not realizing they had to wrap up as early as they did. Either way the set was great! Very glad I got there and was able to get tickets directly vs. from a scalper. My coworker paid $700 for two, which is absolutely fucking absurd. I would never pay that much for a concert ticket unless it included cunnilingus from the band.
It's fun when Maynard does weird shit like that. Years ago in Dallas he said goodbye before the last song explaining that he was hopped up on cough syrup and really had to take a leak. He then went on to sing "gotta piss, gotta piss, gotta piss" during Aenima.
The market in Denver is pretty large for them. Checked on stubhub out of curiosity and there were 2 seats left. I've never seen the scalper market sell out before.
Seeing them tomorrow night in Little Rock. Looking forward to it. Road trip time.
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Oh man.
In better news, the show in Denver last night was amazing! My seat was surprisingly awesome- I was about 20 rows back with few obstructions. The sound was a bit off for 2-3 songs but otherwise great.
Apparently some local taco joint offered Maynard free tacos for life if he shouted them out on stage, so he mentioned that, and then during Opiate he sang "we both want/free tacos" :lol :\
I was really happy to hear that song, and a lot of Lateralus. What was weird was they played for about 90 minutes, then there was a 12-minute intermission, then they just played for another 20 minutes. My friend suggested it may have been because of weird noise laws in town and them not realizing they had to wrap up as early as they did. Either way the set was great! Very glad I got there and was able to get tickets directly vs. from a scalper. My coworker paid $700 for two, which is absolutely fucking absurd. I would never pay that much for a concert ticket unless it included cunnilingus from the band.
It's fun when Maynard does weird shit like that. Years ago in Dallas he said goodbye before the last song explaining that he was hopped up on cough syrup and really had to take a leak. He then went on to sing "gotta piss, gotta piss, gotta piss" during Aenima.
Now that is funny. Must've sucked for him having to sing and see the screens about water.
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Apparently Adam jones played a fan a new riff at the M&G before the show...
:lol or something he just made up because there is no new music.
Probably, who knows?
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" TOOL have two albums worth of new material but only 5 songs that are good enough " says Adam Jones...
Best part :
" There is still no timetable for the new TOOL album's release or even the beginning of its recording sessions. "
:rollin :rollin :corn :corn
Their supposed lawsuit was over in March 2015 and it's getting pretty close to 18 months ago and still no recording sessions in sight.
Holy LOL...
Not surprised about this at all... :biggrin:
There was a time when i was holding my breath for this new Tool album, that was a long time ago.
I'm betting, that this thing will never see the light of day.
I remain completely cynical on the matter as well
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This will be this best selling album of all time. 2 million copies on the first day. Tool know what they're doing.
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Adam Jones certainly got into the spirit of things Friday night.
(https://i.redditmedia.com/WtmHnIQ9m_DUrAuIafkfaJR0ReIJK6OaTgYMxuj1ezM.png?w=1024&s=9ac9124dd6468ce139ed0ab655851718)
(not my pic)
Real good show, albeit a little short. I managed o upgrade us to 5th row center, which was kick ass. Remarkable amount of visual interaction, and they play off of each other more than I expected. Refreshing to see in the age of the click, and they do it amazingly well.
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So apparently they've recorded a TON is of music, enough for two albums, but only like 5 of the songs enough to keep. I don't know if that's good news or bad news.
I just hope the next album has the same connection between lyrical themes and musical concepts that Lateralus had. Adam and Maynard were totally on the same wavelength while making that album. It's their masterpiece. I hope the next one is as deep.
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Some more reverb wouldn't go amiss either.
- I think having two TOOL length albums worth of material ( around 2 hours 30 mins total ) but only having 5 good songs out of that is very bad news.
Adam should have spent the last 10 years learning a 2nd scale.
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I think that whatever they release, whenever they release it, will be amazing. They've been working on something great.
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I think that whatever they release, whenever they release it, will be amazing. They've been working on something great.
Or they haven't :biggrin: :biggrin:
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Right. I once pretty much thought what NotePad did but at this point... I'll echo Dave's plentiful posts in saying :corn
It's just good damn publicity and a fantastic joke at this point.
(and hey, if they come out with something, I'll be utterly ecstatic and if it's any good I'll probably implode)
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- TOOL UPDATE - !!!! :omg: :omg: :omg:
" We're still writing "
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/tool-bassist-offers-new-album-update-were-pretty-deep-into-the-writing-process-now/
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:corn
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:corn
:yawn:
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Maynard Working On Vocals (https://teamrock.com/news/2017-02-20/tools-keenan-working-on-vocals-for-new-album)
Finally some progress ?
Yadda Yadda when it coms out i'll listen to it ...
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Maynard Working On Vocals (https://teamrock.com/news/2017-02-20/tools-keenan-working-on-vocals-for-new-album)
Finally some progress ?
Yadda Yadda when it coms out i'll listen to it ...
I believe it, when i hear it! I mean they could scrap everything the've recorded, and start from scratch again. :biggrin:
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Yeah it implies that Maynard is recording - but he could have just started writing the lyrics... Who knows how long that takes.
Then to find vocal melodies etc... Then finally record...
Plus there was that news that they haven't even recorded the music yet.
I'll still be shocked if we get an album this year.
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Damn Dave, I thought it was going to be a video. Now that I think on it, that was really stupid of me to hope for. :lol
Yeah, pretty much believe it when I hear/see it.
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Yeah it implies that Maynard is recording - but he could have just started writing the lyrics... Who knows how long that takes.
Then to find vocal melodies etc... Then finally record...
Plus there was that news that they haven't even recorded the music yet.
I'll still be shocked if we get an album this year.
Me too. If it happens it'll be a pleasant surprise. If it doesn't happen then *shrug*
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At least Metallica kept busy with other stuff in the years between albums.
I don't think Adam, Danny and Justin have done anything ??
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I'll probably implode
:implode:
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At least Metallica kept busy with other stuff in the years between albums.
I don't think Adam, Danny and Justin have done anything ??
Well, they do tour every year (save for 2015). I'd certainly enjoy hearing some new music, and repetitiveness has kept me from traveling to see them once or twice, but I'm a big fan of the concert experience and Tool does it pretty well.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciQQ9LYu2t4
This is cool. Some of the tones are spot on.
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The only thing that irks me about these videos is that Rabea plays the riffs from 90% of the bands they do wrong.
The tones they got were amazing though, especially the bass.
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Yeah he says that sometimes they work out the riffs at the last minute.
To be fair to them - it's the tones they're trying to emulate and the riffs are more pastiche.
Or maybe it's deliberate to avoid royalty claims ?
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Maynard is on the Joe Rogan podcast this week and there was some great insight on Tool and heir writing process. If you don't want to listen to the interview he says that they take forever to write music. He made a joke saying "alright they started writing the music and I went and started a vineyard in that time and they are still writing"
He also mentioned that's always been their process and he doesn't write lyrics with the band because often times if the song isn't 100% done and he starts writing, by the time he completes writing tool will have changed the song and moved it into a different direction.
Great interview, no new information. Tool owes one album to the record company, APC just signed a one album record deal so their will be something from them.
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Didn't Justin Chancellor recently say that the new album is "about 90% done".
I know Tool has made it a point that we shouldn't completely trust everything they say, but I feel it may be worth noting.
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Joe rogan podcast is awesome. And I love when guests I am fans of are on. It was a great interview
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It was interesting to hear that Maynard is strictly a lyric writer, at least in Tool and APC. He is a busy dude though. I guess it makes since why he is busy with Pucifier when your other two bands release an album every 5 years or so.
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I would definitely find that super irritating, especially when inspiration isn't something you can just put on the shelf and wait for the phone call from you band mates like "hey, its been 10 years but its finished now, you can start lyrics now".
From how he was talking, it sounded like 3 songs are almost done and nothing is recorded. So this thing could still be years away.
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It'd be irritating for me as well but I've come to peace a while ago that it'll be forever until Tool releases a new album. They are successful enough to never play again so when and if it happens, it'll happen.
I'm just annoyed with the constant "we're in the studio" posts that come up from time to time.