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Title: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: lateralus88 on November 14, 2010, 02:01:04 PM
I don't know how many fans there are on the forum, but I think I remember seeing a few people liking them around here.

So let us flock together, and appreciate the godfathers of Doom metal. :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: The King in Crimson on November 14, 2010, 02:12:15 PM
I only have one of their albums (Epicus Doomicus Metallicus, of course), but it's pretty fucking great. Every song is a fantastic gloomy, death-filled journey.
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: Zantera on November 14, 2010, 02:12:54 PM
Seen them live, with the new singer, or well.. he isn't really that new anymore. :P
Really liked them when i was in a doom-phase like 2-3 years ago, mainly the first album that featured him on vocals, was it King of the grey islands or something? (cant remember the title)
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: lateralus88 on November 14, 2010, 02:29:53 PM
I only have one of their albums (Epicus Doomicus Metallicus, of course), but it's pretty fucking great. Every song is a fantastic gloomy, death-filled journey.
If you liked that at all, keep digging. They have a discog full of awesome music. Nightfall being (if you ask me) the greatest Doom album out there. It's so god damn :2metal:.

Seen them live, with the new singer, or well.. he isn't really that new anymore. :P
Really liked them when i was in a doom-phase like 2-3 years ago, mainly the first album that featured him on vocals, was it King of the grey islands or something? (cant remember the title)

I personally never cared too much for the singer you are referring to. He isn't bad, but I suppose I just like Messiah too much to care for others after him.
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: Ravenheart on November 14, 2010, 02:43:22 PM
I only have the album Nightfall... but it's pretty awesome. At the Gallow's End is just  :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: Seventh Son on November 14, 2010, 02:50:10 PM
I'm mostly partial to EDM, but Candlemass is all awesome!

SITTING HERE ALONE IN DARKNESS
WAITING TO BE SET FREE
LONELY AND FORLORN I AM CRYING
I LONG FOR MY TIME TO COME
DEATH MEANS JUST LIFE
PLEASE LET ME DIE IN SOLITUUUUUUUUUDE!

*Epic badass riffing*

:2metal:
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: MykeHavoc on November 14, 2010, 02:54:14 PM
Best doom band of all time (outside of Sabbath). Love, love, love them. I honestly can say that Rob is their best singer. Love the current lineup and hope I get to see them sometime (was hoping they'd be a part of the Symphony X/Nevermore tour like in Europe).
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: Seventh Son on November 14, 2010, 02:58:57 PM
I thought Death Magic Doom was pretty good. Not amazing like EDM or Nightfall, but serviceable.

Also the S/t is really, really underrated.
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: MykeHavoc on November 14, 2010, 03:00:47 PM
Death Magic Doom was possibly my favorite album of 2009.
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: Seventh Son on November 14, 2010, 03:03:22 PM
Death Magic Doom was possibly my favorite album of 2009.
It was good, but it wasn't THAT good. Ape Uprising and Metazoa are two releases from 2009 that I'd put above it (From two bands I keep trying to pimp out to DTF but I keep failing  :lol )
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: Gadough on November 14, 2010, 05:39:55 PM
Dead being pushed around by Messiah in the Bewitched video = fucking awesome.
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: Zoom E on November 14, 2010, 07:45:15 PM
Nightfall being (if you ask me) the greatest Doom album out there. It's so god damn :2metal:.

Agreed! It was very disappointing when Messiah left the band.  I like some of their more recent albums, but Nightfall just slays!
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: MykeHavoc on November 14, 2010, 08:25:27 PM
Messiah was far too much of a drama queen. Rob is a superior vocalist and a much more of a humble team-player. The band is in it's best lineup right now in my opinion.
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: lateralus88 on November 14, 2010, 08:31:03 PM
Drama queen or not, his voice is the best them.
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: wolfking on November 14, 2010, 08:41:13 PM
Big fan here.  I have most of their albums and all are excellent.  I'd say Nightfall would be my favourite.  Self titled is really good too, which isn't talked about much.


Messiah was far too much of a drama queen. Rob is a superior vocalist and a much more of a humble team-player. The band is in it's best lineup right now in my opinion.
 

I love Rob's voice but it's live where Messiah crushes him.  I was actually dissapointed with the Ashes to Ashes DVD, Rob just lacked a certain stage presence IMO.

Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: jsem on November 15, 2010, 03:42:35 AM
Ancient Dreams is also a pretty  :metal :metal :metal :metal album! 

:2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal:
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: lateralus88 on November 15, 2010, 09:28:14 AM
Currently listening to A Tale of Creation.


IN SOLLLLIIITTTUUUUDDDDDDDEEEEEEEEEEEEE AAAAA SSSSSOOOOOOOOOOONNNNGGGGGGGGG WAAAAAAAAAAAAS BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRNNNNNNNNNN
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: Seventh Son on November 15, 2010, 09:40:00 AM
Candlemass is just too fucking good. :2metal:
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: Seventh Son on November 15, 2010, 09:55:56 AM
Oh, Lat!
I've already got two survivors going atm so I can't do it, but do you think you'd do a Candlemass survivor? I'd definitely vote!
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: jsem on November 15, 2010, 10:24:50 AM
Survivor of Epicus Doomus Metallicus would be fairly epic!
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: Darkes7 on November 15, 2010, 10:28:17 AM
I've wanted to get deeper into doom for a while and this is certainly a band around the top of the list. Will try in the future.
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: Seventh Son on November 15, 2010, 11:21:14 AM
I've wanted to get deeper into doom for a while and this is certainly a band around the top of the list. Will try in the future.
EDM and Nightfall.

Right fucking now or else I will bitchslap you back to the dinosaur age.
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: jsem on February 05, 2011, 01:38:43 PM
Listening to The Mirror off Ancient Dreams. :2metal:

BAMP
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: Perpetual Change on February 05, 2011, 08:10:15 PM
Epicus Doomicus Metalicus is awesome, but that's all I have.

Anything like it with slightly better production?
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: lateralus88 on February 05, 2011, 09:57:04 PM
Nightfall and Tale of Creation. Now.
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: Jirpo on April 11, 2011, 02:30:51 AM
Epicus Doomicus Metalicus is awesome, but that's all I have.

Anything like it with slightly better production?
I've been listening to this heaps lately! It rules. What other albums are your guys faves? I like Ancient Dreams and Nightfall.
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: zxlkho on April 11, 2011, 10:45:19 AM
Bewitched is the greatest doom metal song in existence.
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: Iarwain on April 11, 2011, 11:45:53 AM
Haven't heard much from them, only Epicus Doomicus Metallicus and Death Magic Doom. Both are great albums.
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: wolfking on April 11, 2011, 02:42:26 PM
Bewitched is the greatest doom metal song in existence.

I would challenge that title with Samarithan.
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: lateralus88 on April 11, 2011, 05:17:48 PM
Bewitched is the greatest doom metal song in existence.
This.
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: adace on March 16, 2012, 12:04:40 PM
New album: https://legacy.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=171295&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter (https://legacy.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=171295&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: wolfking on March 16, 2012, 03:43:02 PM
This better be good, considering it's their final studio album.  The last one was pretty good, but not amazing.
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: Jirpo on March 16, 2012, 04:59:05 PM
Excited!!
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: lateralus88 on March 18, 2012, 11:54:55 AM
I'm going to go ahead and get my hopes up for this one. I'm looking forward to more Candlemass. Plus, this also means the possibility of finally getting to see them live.


I'm a little bothered however that they didn't even hint at a possibly release date. Not even a time of year or month.
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: adace on April 10, 2012, 08:21:14 PM
new song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUoQ3Bqn8_8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUoQ3Bqn8_8)
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: wolfking on April 11, 2012, 04:52:49 AM
Hmmm.....not bad.  Nothing new either, but solid.
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: adace on May 04, 2012, 05:16:53 PM
samples for the new album https://www.amazon.co.uk/Psalms-for-the-Dead/dp/B007XTNIBY/ref=sr_shvl_album_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1336173328&sr=301-4 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Psalms-for-the-Dead/dp/B007XTNIBY/ref=sr_shvl_album_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1336173328&sr=301-4)
oh and here's the song Killing of the Sun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdatZjMOxaI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdatZjMOxaI)
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: BanksD on May 05, 2012, 10:42:10 AM
So I'm giving a listen to night fall for the first time...where has this album been all my life  :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: lateralus88 on May 05, 2012, 01:53:17 PM
So I'm giving a listen to night fall for the first time...where has this album been all my life  :hefdaddy
You are on the path to salvation, my son.
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: BanksD on May 05, 2012, 03:24:59 PM
I'm definitely looking to check out more of this band's material.


What album(s) would be good for me to listen to next?
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: Jirpo on May 05, 2012, 05:04:33 PM
Ancient Dreams, Epicus Doomicus Metallicus, Tale of Creation.
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: lateralus88 on May 06, 2012, 05:41:42 PM
Tale of Creation.
Jesus Christ this right now holy god damn.
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: wolfking on May 07, 2012, 04:37:12 AM
Ancient Dreams, Epicus Doomicus Metallicus, Tale of Creation.

Any of these are perfect.  I think my fav though would be Nightfall.
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: adace on May 30, 2012, 06:41:42 PM
So the new album leaked. On my first listen, I give it a solid 8.5/10. Not really digging the last two tracks, but the rest easily stands up to their previous stuff. Waterwitch and, the title track and Prophet are definite highlights. It's such a shame they have to stop here. I think they're really underestimating themselves. I'll definitely try to catch them if they come to my area.
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: wolfking on May 30, 2012, 08:28:00 PM
How does it compare to the last one?
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: adace on May 30, 2012, 08:36:10 PM
Based on one listen, this one has fewer memorable parts than the last one but it still comes fairly close to rivaling it. I'll have to give it more listens to get a better sense of how the two stack up.
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: wolfking on May 30, 2012, 09:02:58 PM
Fair enough, I think I might order this one tonight, love this band.
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: lateralus88 on May 30, 2012, 10:23:19 PM
I haven't heard the new album yet, will sometime in the near future. But, I feel like ending on this album might be a good idea. It might just be me, but I feel like they have been going in the same direction for the last several albums and the past decade. Don't get me wrong, their last album was really cool and the self titled wasn't bad. But it kind of blends together after a while.
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: wolfking on June 04, 2012, 04:22:05 AM
So it seems Rob has now been kicked out of the band.

https://legacy.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=174875
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: JRundquist on June 04, 2012, 06:15:25 PM
At least Rob Lowe can go back to make movies now. It's been a while since he had a leading role in something.
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: adace on June 06, 2012, 08:53:42 PM
first live video with Mats Leven: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tUPTK7-h0Eo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tUPTK7-h0Eo)
Honestly, I think he's a great singer but I still like Rob's vocals better. Mats just doesn't have quite the same energy as Rob does. That said, I really think the band should continue on and make another album as I'm curious to see how Mats would sound in the studio with them. Also, I'll definitely still see them if and when they come to my area.
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: lateralus88 on June 06, 2012, 10:43:24 PM
I dunno man, I think Mats is giving Rob a run for his money. In that video he sounds fucking SICK. Please Candlemass, come to Seattle. Oh god.
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: wolfking on July 05, 2012, 04:16:06 AM
Had a few spins of the new album, and I think it's pretty damn good.  I think it easily stands up to the last one, perhaps even overtaking it.  Some of the solo sections are incredible, really enjoy them.
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: Pelata on July 05, 2012, 09:17:49 AM
I love Candlemass...specifically the Messiah and Lowe eras. I've not had much exposure to the other vocalist periods.

I also have not heard the new album, but I plan on getting it ASAP.
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: pkj on July 05, 2012, 09:37:16 AM
I love Messiah-era Candlemass (including the 2005 s/t), and I love Solitude Aeturnus (especially their first three albums).  But for some reason I can't quite warm up to Candlemass with Lowe.  It's good, but I can't quite love it.   

I do feel bad for Lowe right now though -- a singer canned for the 'quality of the live performances', ouch.  I read some accounts of people saying he occasionally read lyrics of a sheet on stage, which seems completely nuts to me.   

This might mean a more prolific Solitude Aeturnus though, which is great news. 
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: wolfking on July 05, 2012, 04:04:53 PM
I like Rob on cd, but the Ashes to Ashes DVD, I can see why they replaced him, probably one of the most boring frontman I've ever seen.  I'll have to watch it again, but he may be reading lyrics on this too, I loved watching Messiah with Candlemass but seeing Rob was just a total snooze fest.  His vocals live were ok though.
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: Pelata on July 06, 2012, 07:13:16 AM
I like Rob on cd, but the Ashes to Ashes DVD, I can see why they replaced him, probably one of the most boring frontman I've ever seen.  I'll have to watch it again, but he may be reading lyrics on this too, I loved watching Messiah with Candlemass but seeing Rob was just a total snooze fest.  His vocals live were ok though.

Listening to the live stuff on CD, I think he sounds good...but he is just standing there and reading the lyrics, I can see that being an issue. If it's your first couple of shows on short notice, maybe...but after being in the band for a few years?
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: Ultimetalhead on August 13, 2012, 08:49:13 AM
Oh my god Nightfall.  :heart This is the first time I've listened through an album, then instantly put it back on again in a really long time. :2metal: all over the place.
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: adace on November 01, 2013, 03:48:50 AM
Bump. So Leif Edling has a little side project called Avatarium and their new album is streaming. It's just phenomenal, I think I like it even better than Psalms for the Dead. The vocals and atmosphere are just spectacular. Check it out!

https://www.terrorizer.com/news/streams/stream-avatariums-debut-album-exclusively-terrorizer (https://www.terrorizer.com/news/streams/stream-avatariums-debut-album-exclusively-terrorizer)
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: wolfking on November 01, 2013, 03:52:48 AM
The samples I heard didn't do much for me to be honest, but I owe it to Leif to check it out.
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: Mister Gold on July 26, 2014, 11:41:37 AM
Been on a Candlemass binge lately. Keep listening to Epicus Doomicus Metallicus, Nightfall, Ancient Dreams and Tales of Creation. I've also listened to King of the Grey Islands once or twice, as well as Psalms for the Dead. Talk about one helluva band!

I'm not entirely sure which album of theirs is my favorite right now. I think EDM has the best vocals by far (shame that Johan declined to join the band), but Nightfall, AD and ToC have some insane instrumental work. Not to mention that Messiah is a great vocalist himself.
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: jammindude on July 26, 2014, 04:09:58 PM
I only ever heard the input with Messiah as the lead vocalist...but I LOVED it.   Are the other lead singers different?  Or do they generally try to stick to the same operatic style that Messiah did?

At the Gallows End was one of the most awesome metal songs I had ever heard in my younger days....and I remember loving Nightfall completely, though it's been 20 years since I've listened to the whole album.
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: Mister Gold on July 26, 2014, 08:17:17 PM
I only ever heard the input with Messiah as the lead vocalist...but I LOVED it.   Are the other lead singers different?  Or do they generally try to stick to the same operatic style that Messiah did?

At the Gallows End was one of the most awesome metal songs I had ever heard in my younger days....and I remember loving Nightfall completely, though it's been 20 years since I've listened to the whole album.

The ones I've heard all utilized an operatic style, but they each sound rather different from one another imo.

Johan Langquist, the session vocalist for Epicus Doomicus Metallicus, is my personal favorite of the singers that I've heard. His voice is a bit deeper and warmer than Messiah's, but he hits some killer high notes too. He's also not as over-the-top as Messiah can be at times. I'd compare him to being a cross of sorts between Geoff Tate or Ray Alder and Dio, with a slightly deeper register.

I completely agree though about At the Gallows End. Incredible song. Coincidentally, I'm listening to it right now. :metal
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: Mister Gold on September 03, 2018, 06:51:08 AM
HOLY CRAP. Candlemass just announced on their official Facebook page that Johan Langquist is officially rejoining the band. They're also in the middle of recording a new studio album, so... :metal

I'm losing my mind over this news- I never thought Johan would "rejoin"/join the band full-time since he was only ever been a session singer on the first album and did a few anniversary shows awhile back.

The band somehow patching things up with Messiah and another reunion of that lineup happening? I thought that was maybe doable, though not exactly necessary either. But Johan? Never imagined this.

THE BEST CANDLEMASS SINGER IS BACK, GUYS!!! :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: WildRanger on September 04, 2018, 03:17:34 PM
Good to see this thread.
I'm a Candlemass fan. Not counting early Sabs, they are probably the best doom metal band ever. First 4 Candlemass albums are all gold in my book with Epicus Doomicus Metallicus being my favorite doom record ever.


Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: MirrorMask on September 05, 2018, 09:19:10 AM
I suddenly realize that as a direct consequence, Mats Leven is gone. Didn't realize he was still in the band. But that could be excused since I only know Psalms for the Dead anyway  :lol I love the Mad Queen Be song. Guess that with the impending arrival of the dark part of the year, I'll try and check out more stuff from them, these news about the band made me suddenly realize "Hey, they don't have growls and I like somehow their style", so a dive into their catalog is due sometimes.
Title: Re: Candlemass appreciation thread v. You are Beeeewwwwiiittchheed
Post by: Grappler on September 05, 2018, 09:37:09 AM
I haven't kept up with this band since they got rid of Robert Lowe - I love those albums that he did with them.  The prior stuff boils down to a greatest hits collection for me, and I honestly just listen to the live album/EP with Robert singing more than the original versions.