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Title: Lie -- difficult-to-hear lyrics
Post by: Ħ on October 06, 2010, 03:57:38 PM
So I have had a constant question in my mind, and I actually posted this in a recent thread, but no one responded.

Lie's written chorus is this:

Don't tell me you wanted me
Don't tell me you thought of me
I would
I swear I would
(Did)
I'll try
I swear I'll try
(Lie)

However, when I listen to the song, I can't hear "did" or "lie."  Are they backing vocals, like the "love, deceit, death" part in Home's chorus?

EDIT:  just fixed up a lyrical problem
Title: Re: Lie -- unheard lyrics
Post by: pmahoney1337 on October 06, 2010, 04:08:33 PM
Thats weird. I tried listening to it and couldn't hear anything either. I wonder if there's some story behind it.
Title: Re: Lie -- unheard lyrics
Post by: blackngold29 on October 06, 2010, 04:39:19 PM
I'll have to listen tonight.


This happens occasionally, Barenaked Ladies' One Week (which was a really popular song) has entire verses of lyrics that aren't in the song. I've never heard an explanation for those.
Title: Re: Lie -- unheard lyrics
Post by: JayOctavarium on October 06, 2010, 05:30:10 PM
i noticed that a long time ago and it has always tugged at the back of my mind
Title: Re: Lie -- unheard lyrics
Post by: j on October 06, 2010, 06:16:28 PM
So I have had a constant question in my mind, and I actually posted this in a recent thread, but no one responded.

Lie's written chorus is this:

Don't tell me you wanted me
Don't tell me you thought of me
I would
I swear I would
(Won't)
I'll try
I swear I'll try
(Lie)

However, when I listen to the song, I can't hear "won't" or "lie."  Are they backing vocals, like the "love, deceit, death" part in Home's chorus?

Whoa, that's weird.  I just listened to it several times in headphones cranked up and heard nothing.

-J
Title: Re: Lie -- unheard lyrics
Post by: bloop on October 06, 2010, 06:26:31 PM
Maybe it's Myung singing it.
Title: Re: Lie -- unheard lyrics
Post by: MykeHavoc on October 06, 2010, 06:33:09 PM
But if Myung sang, your head would cave in from the sheer awesome power.
Title: Re: Lie -- unheard lyrics
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on October 06, 2010, 08:41:37 PM
I'll have to listen tonight.


This happens occasionally, Barenaked Ladies' One Week (which was a really popular song) has entire verses of lyrics that aren't in the song. I've never heard an explanation for those.
Same with Porcupine Tree's "The Nostalgia Factory."
Title: Re: Lie -- unheard lyrics
Post by: YtseJamittaja on October 07, 2010, 12:09:13 AM
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=9819.0

I already asked this couple of months ago, this is still weird
Title: Re: Lie -- unheard lyrics
Post by: ? on October 07, 2010, 01:14:43 AM
I can hear someone repeating "lie" in the left channel after the 2nd and final choruses (2.28-2.37 and 4.48-4.58). I can also hear "did" in the final chorus (4.38-4.43). It's in the left channel too.
Title: Re: Lie -- unheard lyrics
Post by: pinchylarue on October 07, 2010, 01:23:28 AM
lol play the song backwards maybe  :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Lie -- unheard lyrics
Post by: JayOctavarium on October 07, 2010, 01:27:02 AM
lol play the song backwards maybe  :lol :lol :lol

working on it for the hell of it
Title: Re: Lie -- unheard lyrics
Post by: Zydar on October 07, 2010, 01:28:09 AM
lol play the song backwards maybe  :lol :lol :lol

working on it for the hell of it

You will hear the recipe for a really ripping lens soup.

(Hoping someone will catch the reference)
Title: Re: Lie -- unheard lyrics
Post by: sneakyblueberry on October 07, 2010, 06:07:07 AM
lol play the song backwards maybe  :lol :lol :lol

working on it for the hell of it

You will hear the recipe for a really ripping lens soup.

(Hoping someone will catch the reference)

Paul and Linda ftw!
Title: Re: Lie -- unheard lyrics
Post by: Zydar on October 07, 2010, 06:09:28 AM
lol play the song backwards maybe  :lol :lol :lol

working on it for the hell of it

You will hear the recipe for a really ripping lens soup.

(Hoping someone will catch the reference)

Paul and Linda ftw!

:biggrin:
Title: Re: Lie -- unheard lyrics
Post by: faizoff on October 07, 2010, 09:01:17 AM
When I first got the album when it came out eons ago I wondered it at the time. Will have to take a close listen to see if it's actually whispered or something.
Title: Re: Lie -- unheard lyrics
Post by: jdprsaga on October 07, 2010, 09:17:35 AM
I thought for years it was cause the first chorus they say the first line (won't and try) and the second chorus they say the second line (don't and lie).. but i heard it now and i was wrong hahaha. (i really don't pay attention to the singing, just the music)

now.. i have a new theory.. the first line is what they say as a lie (won't and try), and the second line that you don't hear is the true (don't, lie). Yep.. this work for me.

Title: Re: Lie -- unheard lyrics
Post by: rumborak on October 07, 2010, 09:46:34 AM
I faintly hear the "d" in "Did" in the first chorus, but I can't hear a "Lie" at all.

rumborak
Title: Re: Lie -- unheard lyrics
Post by: Ħ on October 07, 2010, 01:32:37 PM
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=9819.0

I already asked this couple of months ago, this is still weird

Yeah, I saw that thread, but it went off on a major tangent so I decided to make it again.
Title: Re: Lie -- unheard lyrics
Post by: Metropolis Pt. II on October 07, 2010, 07:37:57 PM
I hear it say "Lie" both times in the chorus that starts at 2:01. I used headphones.
Title: Re: Lie -- unheard lyrics
Post by: Infinite Cactus on October 07, 2010, 08:10:44 PM
I used headphones and can't here anything that sounds like any of that. I always assumed like most artist, the lyrics printed were the intended lyrics. They just didn't end up that way on the album but it was already being printed up.
Title: Re: Lie -- unheard lyrics
Post by: Ħ on October 07, 2010, 10:28:44 PM
I hear it say "Lie" both times in the chorus that starts at 2:01. I used headphones.


Could you clarify?  Is it a drawn out "Liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeee" or a short "Lie"?  And when in the chorus is it, exactly?
Title: Re: Lie -- unheard lyrics
Post by: fsh3702 on October 08, 2010, 06:06:39 AM
maybe these are just annotations, don't have to sing it out, i guess
Title: Re: Lie -- unheard lyrics
Post by: ? on October 08, 2010, 06:12:31 AM
I hear it say "Lie" both times in the chorus that starts at 2:01. I used headphones.


Could you clarify?  Is it a drawn out "Liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeee" or a short "Lie"?  And when in the chorus is it, exactly?
Look at my previous post in this thread, there are timestamps. Also, it's repeating "lie" many times. They aren't "LLLLIIIIIEEE", they are quite short.
Title: Re: Lie -- unheard lyrics
Post by: faizoff on October 08, 2010, 04:40:58 PM
I can hear someone repeating "lie" in the left channel after the 2nd and final choruses (2.28-2.37 and 4.48-4.58). I can also hear "did" in the final chorus (4.38-4.43). It's in the left channel too.

I probably need a good set of earphones to hear this, I'm unable to make out any of the "lie" or "did" with my earbuds.
Title: Re: Lie -- unheard lyrics
Post by: tri.ad on October 08, 2010, 04:43:31 PM
I just tried it while tuning out the right speakers and I heard the "lie, lie, lie" and the "did, did, did" as well. Pretty cool.
Title: Re: Lie -- unheard lyrics
Post by: faizoff on October 08, 2010, 05:57:26 PM
Ah I was finally able to make it out and did the same thing you did tri.ad, tuned out the right channel and could make out the 'lie'. It sounds like Kevin Moore may have said those.
Title: Re: Lie -- unheard lyrics
Post by: Ħ on October 08, 2010, 06:03:39 PM
Still can't hear it.  Is the "lie, lie, lie" on the beat?
Title: Re: Lie -- unheard lyrics
Post by: faizoff on October 08, 2010, 06:12:13 PM
It's really faint and kinda hard to make out really but it's there.
Title: Re: Lie -- unheard lyrics
Post by: tri.ad on October 09, 2010, 01:46:09 AM
Ah I was finally able to make it out and did the same thing you did tri.ad, tuned out the right channel and could make out the 'lie'. It sounds like Kevin Moore may have said those.

It's most definitely James LaBrie.
Title: Re: Lie -- unheard lyrics
Post by: ? on October 09, 2010, 02:39:09 AM
Ah I was finally able to make it out and did the same thing you did tri.ad, tuned out the right channel and could make out the 'lie'. It sounds like Kevin Moore may have said those.

It's most definitely James LaBrie.
IMO it sounds like Kevin.
Title: Re: Lie -- unheard lyrics
Post by: 2Timer on October 09, 2010, 07:15:44 AM
Since you guys heard it you now have to change the title of the thread.
Title: Re: Lie -- unheard lyrics
Post by: ? on October 09, 2010, 09:58:30 AM
Since you guys heard it you now have to change the title of the thread.
Should it be "Lie -- difficult-to-hear lyrics"?  :lol
Title: Re: Lie -- difficult-to-hear lyrics
Post by: Ħ on October 09, 2010, 02:49:18 PM
Done.
Title: Re: Lie -- difficult-to-hear lyrics
Post by: Ben_Jamin on October 10, 2010, 01:59:40 PM
I heard it. It is really faint and pretty tight. Most definately sounds like JLB in his soft warm voice.
Title: Re: Lie -- difficult-to-hear lyrics
Post by: MajorMatt on October 10, 2010, 02:12:56 PM
Thats pretty cool.

I put my headphones on, cranked it, and moved the right cup out of the way so i was only listening to the left channel and sure enough - lie,lie,lie

Matt
Title: Re: Lie -- difficult-to-hear lyrics
Post by: Occasional_Madman on October 10, 2010, 02:29:19 PM
I hear it in the left channel as well. Said in an almost sticatto manner. Definately James, with a lot of reverb it sounds like.
Title: Re: Lie -- difficult-to-hear lyrics
Post by: ack44 on October 11, 2010, 12:52:18 AM
Kevin Moore sang it and the band edited it out after they decided Kevin was a douche.