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Title: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Sigz on June 03, 2009, 04:42:02 PM
I've been horrifically binging on all three^ lately - just got Driver's solo album, In the L.. L.. Library Loft the other day. Absolutely stunning album, and the concepts behind each song are really interesting.

Anyways, appreciate them here, bitches.

Oh, and Choirs of the Eye is one of the greatest albums ever recorded. Just so you know.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Metalingus on June 03, 2009, 08:30:10 PM
Bath and Leaving Your Body Map are my two favorite albums ever.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: JoeBob on June 03, 2009, 10:01:03 PM
Bath and Leaving Your Body Map are my two favorite albums ever.

 :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Sigz on June 04, 2009, 12:14:41 PM
Anyone else listened to Driver's solo album? I found this thing talking about the ideas behind the songs on his website:

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Kandu vs. Corky (Horrorca)

This one's a microtonal piece that loves bell-shaped things. The rhythm is basically a bell-curve shape over and over again, and some of the instrumentation (bells, and sine waves) are themselves bell-shaped. Part of the original idea was to mic things really loud but play them extra-quietly, so that they sounded really artifact-laden on tape. The strings at the beginning use this idea, as well as some of the cymbals, which we miked right above the rim of each, and a simple touch would produce an insanely resonant bass tone. All these things working together create an extremely undulatious take on contemporary drone-metal.

electric guitar, bells, sine waves, drum kit (2), upright bass, electric bass, violin, trombone, euphonium, trumpet, vocal.



The Lugubrious Library Loft

This clustonic piece is based on the need for two persons to perform each instrument. For example, the piano requires a player on the keyboard and a player malleting the strings simultaneously, and so on for each instrument. As for the vocals, one person was to sing only the notes in an "ah" while the second person skillfully inserted their lips, tongue, and teeth into the first person's mouth and moved them around a bit to form the enunciations.

prepared piano, string piano, bowed tuning forks, tuning fork pattycake, two-tongue vocals, electric bass, electric guitar, violin.




Brown Light Upon Us


The idea behind this one was to just have a band play in one room, and place the microphone in another room behind walls and closed doors. I wrote the song with those things in mind, trying to use sounds, rhythms, harmonies, etc. that would result in a song that sounded right only when listened to from one room over - in other words, if you heard it in the room it was being played in, it wouldn't sound as good. The ambient quality of the song would obviously have to be pretty important, to discourage the listener from listening in a way that they were used to doing. I've heard plenty of music that has haunted me most when drifting in from a far-off hall, most often piano music. Never with a metal band though, so i was trying to capture the same vibe here with that instrumentation.

electric guitar, drum kit, electric bass, remote snare drum.



Eptaceros


Kayo Dot's trumpetist at the time had been experimenting with interesting extended-technique trumpet sounds. I was interested in hearing his technique in a different context, so I wrote a song based on that, "Eptaceros" means "seven-horn," an appropriately haunting title for one of the most beautiful and bleak pieces I have ever written.

cello (2), electric guitar, piano, trumpet, vocal.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Neccy60 on June 05, 2009, 06:05:25 AM
/appreciates

Not enough people here appreciate them.  Sad.  :sad:
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Nick on June 07, 2009, 09:28:48 PM
I saw that the new Maudlin of the Well album was getting rave reviews, but I wasn't a big fan of the Kayo Dot album I once owned, can anyone give me a brief explanation in how the two bands differ?
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Nick on June 07, 2009, 09:32:21 PM
Well, I just saw that the new album can be downloaded in hi-res FLAC format for free from the band, so I suppose I can just give that a spin and don't really need help. :lol
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Sigz on June 07, 2009, 09:39:00 PM
I saw that the new Maudlin of the Well album was getting rave reviews, but I wasn't a big fan of the Kayo Dot album I once owned, can anyone give me a brief explanation in how the two bands differ?

1) Which Kayo Dot album did you have? Even between the three they have out they vary drastically.

2) maudlin of the Well was the precursor to Kayo Dot, it was much more of a metal band than Kayo Dot ever was. motW released only three albums - their last two, Bath and Leaving Your Body Map are considered "companion albums", and were released at the same time. While all three albums are very heavy, their last two had much more acoustic and ethereal type stuff then their first, and as they began writing material for the fourth album, several members dropped, the band changed labels, and, more importantly, the music they were writing was no longer 'metal'. As a result, motW decided to change their name to Kayo Dot to break themselves of the metal image that motW had, and the fourth motW album instead became Kayo Dot's first album, Choirs of the Eye.

That said, motW's new album is NOTHING like they're previous work. It is distinctly lighter and more ethereal (there's no growls to be found). Knowing you're tastes, I'm not going to guarantee you'll like it (although I think you'd enjoy the last track, which is somewhat closer to prog), but its certainly worth a listen, especially since its free.

Well, I just saw that the new album can be downloaded in hi-res FLAC format for free from the band, so I suppose I can just give that a spin and don't really need help. :lol

God dammit Nick and right after I typed all this out.   :millahhhh
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: sneakyblueberry on October 28, 2010, 07:52:53 PM
NECROTHREAD

Just got Choirs of the Eye (after searching for ages, I had to go with iTunes).   Listening now and at track 3.  Pretty awesome so far, really interesting production.  The singer's softer moments remind me of Jeff Buckley a lot. 
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: ClairvoyantCat on October 28, 2010, 08:12:53 PM
I actually like the newer motW album quite a lot, regarding it as a different style of work.  Driver's similarity to Buckley is no coincidence, also, especially in A Pitcher of Summer.  That one's always reminded me immensely of "So Real."  I think Choirs of the Eye is better than anything motW has done, personally, though Bath and Leaving Your Body Map come very close.  This solo album sounds quite interesting, I should get around to checking it out soon!



Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: sneakyblueberry on October 28, 2010, 08:17:39 PM
Driver's similarity to Buckley is no coincidence, also, especially in A Pitcher of Summer.  That one's always reminded me immensely of "So Real." 

Exactly that!

Yeah, I really like Part the Second.  I only have that and Choirs... but I'm keen to look at some other stuff.  And the stuff Sigz posted about the Driver solo album was really interesting, wouldn't mind hearing that.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: SoundscapeMN on October 29, 2010, 01:21:48 AM
I love how My Fruit Psychobells... A Seed Combustible always gets overlooked.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Sigz on October 29, 2010, 03:04:35 AM
My Fruit Psychobells is so awesome. A Conception Pathetic is one of my favorite maudlin songs.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: ClairvoyantCat on October 30, 2010, 06:23:15 PM
What does everyone here think of Coyote?  For whatever reason I haven't gotten around to hearing that one yet...
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Sigz on October 31, 2010, 06:07:48 AM
It's quite good. I think I like Blue Lambency more, but it's still a great album.

Also, they have an EP called Stained Glass coming out in November :caffeine:
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Sigz on November 02, 2010, 06:14:26 AM
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Hello Cookies,

Welcome to the second installment of the illustrious Kayo Dot Mailing List.
Here's what's going on now:

Kayo Dot, which is a modest and humble avant-and-or-compositional-rock band hailing from NYC, and is the best thing since those sliced cross-sectional faces at Philadelphia's Mutter Museum, is about to embark upon a brief Northeast U.S. and Canada tour! This is in support of our new EP, STAINED GLASS, which is a long, floating, vibraphone-centric distortion cloud representing (musically) a Luciferian journey across colorful windows from left to right in a darkened cathedral.

We're going to be touring in that same perilous heatless, air-conditioningless, schoko-duo graffiti magnet as we've been for the past 7 years. Even if you can't come to a show, please send us positive and bright thoughts of remaining upright and safely cushioned from other objects by air.

In addition to this, we're also celebrating the vinyl release of our last album, COYOTE, and the vinyl release of maudlin of the Well's PART THE SECOND. We'll have ALL of these items for sale with us on tour...! Also, most of the shows we booked are ALL AGES...  After the amazing turnouts in NYC in February, we knew that having as many All Ages shows as possible was very important - so please come on out and prove us right!

Our drummer on this tour will be the legendary Keith Abrams, formerly of Time of Orchids, who will also make sure our van doesn't break. Additionally, our other drummer, Dave Bodie, will be joining us and Keith at our NYC show as a percussionist - so, at that show we'll have the two drummers, yow!!
Here's the tour itinerary:

11/06 Boston, MA @ The Middle East Upstairs ALL AGES - TERRAN'S BIRTHDAY (sort of) BRING PRESENTS,
11/07 Purchase, NY @ SUNY Purchase Student Center ALL AGES
11/08 Montreal, QC @ Les Katacombes ALL AGES
11/09 Ottawa, ON @ Cake Dekcuf 19+ - MIA'S BIRTHDAY. BRING WEIRDER PRESENTS
11/10 Toronto, ON @ Sneaky Dee's 19+ - NEIL GAIMAN'S BIRTHDAY, (I'll wear my Sandman shirt if you wear yours)
11/11 Middletown, CT @ Eclectic House (Wesleyan University) ALL AGES - MINE ROMP or ABANDONED MENTAL INSTITUTION ROMP afterparty
11/12 Baltimore, MD @ Orion Studios w/ Newspeak ALL AGES
11/13 Bethlehem, PA @ Secret Art Space w/ Newspeak ALL AGES
11/14 Brooklyn, NY @ Littlefield w/ Newspeak 21+


NOTE - The Montreal show, which was originally at Casa Del Popolo, has been moved to LES KATACOMBES.

Important!!:
Please buy your tickets for these shows IN ADVANCE if at all possible - in the past, some of our shows have been cancelled by the venue or promoter if pre-sale tickets are too low. So please get them in advance to prevent this!

The lineup on this tour:

Toby Driver - guitar, bass, and vox
Mia Matsumiya - violin, guitar, and keys
Terran Olson - keys and tenor sax
Dan Means - alto sax, guitar, keys, and bass
Tim Byrnes - trumpet and french horn
Keith Abrams - drumset


In further news, we'll be doing a European tour in late January and February 2010, and are planning on having copies of the new Tartar Lamb 2 vinyl phonograph record for that tour!!! That's all for now.. thanks for reading!


Pieces,

Toby Driver on behalf of Kayo Dot
https://www.kayodot.net
https://www.kayodot.net/toby
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Sigz on November 16, 2010, 07:06:23 AM
Been listening to Stained Glass lately, it's very good. The title is definitely fitting, and it's very atmospheric and textural, almost approaching ambient music but still with discernible melodies underneath. Really interesting stuff.

Also, apparently Toby has another 'pop black metal' project called Vaura. There's only one demo on their myspace, but it's REALLY good. I can't wait to hear more: https://www.myspace.com/vaura
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Sigz on January 13, 2011, 03:20:33 PM
I'm finally getting to see Kayo Dot live on Feb. 15th :caffeine:

I think I'm going to try to rape Toby after the show just because I love him so much.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: ClairvoyantCat on January 13, 2011, 03:25:39 PM
Awesome.  I've wanted more and more to see Kayo Dot since I've started to really appreciate the post-Choirs of the Eye albums as much as CotE itself. 

Unfortunately, I am not in the right location to see Kayo Dot or rape Toby, so give him an extra special one for me!   :tup
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: SoundscapeMN on February 24, 2011, 06:32:04 PM
https://antitheticrecords.blogspot.com/2011/02/bath-leaving-your-body-map.html

Bath/Leaving Your Body Map 4LP Boxed Set coming.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: seasonsinthesky on February 24, 2011, 09:57:22 PM
^ god damn that will be expensive, but i'm afraid my trigger finger is going to hop right on it when it happens.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Marvellous G on February 28, 2011, 01:27:41 PM
Just got Choirs Of The Eye. Very psyched for my first listen.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: ClairvoyantCat on February 28, 2011, 01:36:00 PM
Just got Choirs Of The Eye. Very psyched for my first listen.

Awesome!   ;)


Don't expect to absolutely love it through your first listen, though, it's a real grower. 
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: seasonsinthesky on February 28, 2011, 03:57:07 PM
Choirs of the Eye is one of the greatest albums ever recorded.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on February 28, 2011, 03:59:48 PM
Choirs of the Eye is one of the greatest albums ever recorded.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Marvellous G on March 01, 2011, 11:14:51 AM
Only had time to listen to Marathon, but it was at least a 'proper' listen, in that I was paying complete attention to it in bed with headphones turned up loud. And holy crap, the metal parts were terrifying, and I love how you can hear that they're about to happen just before they do. The song was actually kind of what I expected based on what I'd heard about the band, but it was still great. I'll listen to the whole album this weekend probably.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on March 01, 2011, 11:32:12 AM
Love Marathon. I love the spoken word in the outro.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Sigz on March 01, 2011, 11:36:47 AM
Like a kiss, soft, and wild with the delicate steps of petals fallen in a stream
This swirling ballerina turns in faint and sighing grandeur
Across the floor to me.
A monarch plays the violin to a summer's afternoon
Whilst quietly the earthworm adores the soil in winter's sparkling gloom
It breaks away, growing as the flowers do.

A thunderhead embraces his enraptured lover
And kisses with a gale that also makes the cattails shudder.
His tears cannot, as he proclaims his love, be held with lightning back;
They fondly dance into an open window
And fondly dance with mine.

Our eyelashes weaken with a weight that is sweet and fine,
And this feels like frogs and spiders in the sweet outside.
Tell me why world, unfathomable and good,
The beauty of everything is infinite and cruel.

An airplane, a puppet, an orange, a spoon,
A window, and outside
Stars and the moon.

:hearts: :hearts: :hearts:
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on March 01, 2011, 12:10:33 PM
Like a kiss, soft, and wild with the delicate steps of petals fallen in a stream
This swirling ballerina turns in faint and sighing grandeur
Across the floor to me.
A monarch plays the violin to a summer's afternoon
Whilst quietly the earthworm adores the soil in winter's sparkling gloom
It breaks away, growing as the flowers do.

A thunderhead embraces his enraptured lover
And kisses with a gale that also makes the cattails shudder.
His tears cannot, as he proclaims his love, be held with lightning back;
They fondly dance into an open window
And fondly dance with mine.

Our eyelashes weaken with a weight that is sweet and fine,
And this feels like frogs and spiders in the sweet outside.
Tell me why world, unfathomable and good,
The beauty of everything is infinite and cruel.

An airplane, a puppet, an orange, a spoon,
A window, and outside
Stars and the moon.

:hearts: :hearts: :hearts:
So amazing. :)
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: seasonsinthesky on March 01, 2011, 08:21:32 PM
i don't think anything quite matches the poetry of "A Pitcher of Summer." its words were actually the reason why i retried the band several years after disliking Choirs when it came out (i was young, blame my undiscerning ear!).

One morning, before the leaves began changing
I caught a piece of summer and poured it into a pitcher;

This I placed in the cellar on a shelf collecting dust .
Autumn, then winter, rose up from the sea, and my
Garden was a garden filled with unbroken snow.

No flower strained its face to the ice giants' whisper,
No life coloured the vision of a newborn Spring babe.
My cellar-water dripping into a pail

And I lifted my piece of summer
Like a piece of memory or a dream

Like these, caught on film
And carried it to the garden floes,
The wind turning drifting stars to madness.

Poured forth gracefully, this etheric tincture
Lifts winter's coat-of-arms with coaxing aromas and electricity.
Used with vigilance, a Pitcher of Summer stirs a memory into swooning,
And bravely, the flowers of the past will stretch their limbs into the sky
While snow falls quietly all around.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on March 01, 2011, 08:26:37 PM
I'm pretty sure ctheric is a typo even though it says it for reals. Ctheric is not a word. I'm pretty sure he says etheric.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: ClairvoyantCat on March 01, 2011, 08:31:30 PM
I've always wondered about that too, but I've always felt this

I'm pretty sure ctheric is a typo even though it says it for reals. Ctheric is not a word. I'm pretty sure he says etheric.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: seasonsinthesky on March 02, 2011, 08:37:37 AM
indeed, the word is "etheric" - i literally copied and pasted that mofo off of darklyrics but somehow didn't think it appropriate to fix. shit, son!
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Sigz on March 11, 2011, 04:48:55 AM
Bumping just to say that ___ On Limpid Form is fucking amazing.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on March 11, 2011, 09:28:37 AM
It's actually my least favourite Kayo Dot song. :blush
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Sigz on March 11, 2011, 09:36:57 AM
What.

The.

Fuck.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: seasonsinthesky on March 11, 2011, 10:56:22 AM
i like "On Limpid Form," but in order to listen to it, i need to be in the mood for a marathon.  ;)
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: sneakyblueberry on March 11, 2011, 01:56:52 PM
Still trying to get into choirs of the eye.  I love Pitcher of Summer. 
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Ultimetalhead on March 20, 2011, 03:04:59 PM
Why have I not posted in this thread?

I absolutely love Bath. I think it's about time I listen to Leaving Your Body Map.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Marvellous G on March 20, 2011, 04:09:59 PM
I have a weird thing with Kayo Dot and motW; I know that they're both objectively amazing, and I'd rate all of the albums I've heard from both of them very highly, they just don't really do anything whatsoever for me at any emotional level.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on March 20, 2011, 04:31:18 PM
Really? Choirs of the Eye usually instantly puts me in a depressing mood.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Jamesman42 on March 20, 2011, 05:55:49 PM
What is this band like?

Or, these bands? :lol
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: sonatafanica on March 20, 2011, 06:45:57 PM
awesome
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Jamesman42 on March 20, 2011, 06:51:37 PM
olol expressive

Gimme genre adjectives foo
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: sonatafanica on March 20, 2011, 06:55:56 PM
amazing
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Gorille85 on March 20, 2011, 06:58:37 PM
Avant-garde maybe?
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: seasonsinthesky on March 20, 2011, 06:59:00 PM
maudlin of the Well and Choirs of the Eye bounce around between progressively extreme, chaotic, deafeningly loud and screechy death/black metal (sometimes it's one, sometimes it's the other) and airy, atmospheric, fusion-esque mellow stuff with singing. other stuff comes in a bit more occasionally: ambient and drone, spoken word, actual jazz, etc.

Kayo Dot post-Choirs have focused almost exclusively on the experimental/prog rock/jazz fusion/ambient facets of the sound, with occasional forays into the extreme metal facets (happens on Dowsing Anemone With Copper Tongue, but less than on Choirs), to the point where it's almost like Godspeed You! Black Emperor with vocals at times. (structural orchestral-esque movement GY!BE, not really ambient-sound-collage GY!BE.)
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Sigz on April 01, 2011, 05:43:43 PM
Also, apparently Toby has another 'pop black metal' project called Vaura. There's only one demo on their myspace, but it's REALLY good. I can't wait to hear more: https://www.myspace.com/vaura

They're currently recording :caffeine:
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Portrucci on April 01, 2011, 05:48:45 PM
Also, apparently Toby has another 'pop black metal' project called Vaura. There's only one demo on their myspace, but it's REALLY good. I can't wait to hear more: https://www.myspace.com/vaura

They're currently recording :caffeine:
fuuu I can't hear the demo.  :-[

oh well, this is still probably gonna kick ass  :corn


Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Sigz on April 01, 2011, 05:51:08 PM
There's a live video here that's decent quality: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHbCmuiivSU

And yeah, myspace really needs to die. Terrible site.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: sonatafanica on April 01, 2011, 05:58:14 PM
So yeah, a few months ago I got Choirs of the Eye and I forgot to say so I think but I really think that album is all sorts of beautiful
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: seasonsinthesky on April 01, 2011, 07:08:15 PM
whoa, that Vaura demo is really amazing. hope that becomes something soon!
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: sneakyblueberry on April 01, 2011, 08:51:30 PM
I now have Bath.  It is quite a bit different from Part the Second and Choirs of the Eye, isn't it.  I don't think I like the other guys' death growls.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Ravenheart on June 12, 2011, 03:22:53 PM
I've been listening to Bath lately. Really cool stuff. Brutal, beautiful, and peaceful. Toby is something else  :metal :tup

Where should I go from here?
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Sigz on June 12, 2011, 03:25:06 PM
Well, for maudlin check out Leaving Your Body Map (the second part to Bath) and also Part the Second, which is free here: https://www.maudlinofthewell.net/downloads.html

For Kayo Dot, GET CHOIRS OF THE EYE FOR FUCKS SAKE
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on June 12, 2011, 03:25:51 PM
GET CHOIRS OF THE EYE FOR FUCKS SAKE
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Ravenheart on June 12, 2011, 03:26:18 PM
OKAY I'LL GET IT SOON

:caffeine:
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: ClairvoyantCat on June 12, 2011, 04:29:14 PM
OKAY I'LL GET IT SOON

:caffeine:

Yeah you must.

Choirs of the Eye is one of my favorite albums ever and it must be heard must must must be heard.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: MetalManiac666 on June 29, 2011, 10:45:51 PM
I've had and loved PTS for quite some time now, but I still haven't gotten around to listening to any of Toby's other stuff.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: seasonsinthesky on June 29, 2011, 11:03:59 PM
grabbed myself a copy of PTS and Stained Glass on vinyl today (in fact, the exact minute SG went up on Antithetic Records!). can't wait to have them :D
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Quadrochosis on July 26, 2011, 07:03:19 AM
Bath :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Psy on July 26, 2011, 05:01:27 PM
Downloaded Part the Second the other week and I've fallen in love with the album. It's certainly...avant-garde. Gonna check out out these Kayo Dot chaps now.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: zxlkho on July 31, 2011, 09:45:46 PM
The intro to Girl With a Watering Can. I think it's a clarinet, everyone disagrees with me. I played the clarinet for years.

Which is it?
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on July 31, 2011, 09:47:57 PM
I agree.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Ultimetalhead on July 31, 2011, 09:50:51 PM
It's an alto saxophone. The keys on a clarinet do not sound like that. From hearing my ex play a saxophone all the time, I know what the keys of a saxophone sound like, and that sound is present in the intro of that song.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: zxlkho on July 31, 2011, 09:52:55 PM
I played clarinet for 6 years. I'm 100% sure that that's a clarinet.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on July 31, 2011, 09:56:37 PM
Yeah I'm pretty sure its clarinet.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Gorille85 on July 31, 2011, 10:00:56 PM
Acutally it's a guitar.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: zxlkho on July 31, 2011, 10:01:11 PM
lol
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Sigz on August 01, 2011, 12:47:43 AM
Sounds like a clarinet to me.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: ZBomber on August 01, 2011, 01:02:08 AM
Bath :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: sneakyblueberry on August 01, 2011, 04:43:49 AM
I was listening to Bath today in the bath. 

lol nah, but I was listening to it.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Sigz on August 04, 2011, 05:52:05 PM
Quote
We have a very special concert lined up on October 5, 2011 at Littlefield in Brooklyn, NY. At this concert, we're going to play a full set of all-new material and record the whole thing. Afterward, we're going to take these recordings home and do a million overdubs. This will be our next album. We hope that as many of you as possible can come to this show, especially because there will be some audience participation, which will be crucial to the sound of the record! That's at Littlefield, Brooklyn NY, October 5, 2011, 7PM, openers TBA.

(https://i.imgur.com/yfZ7T.jpg)
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Quadrochosis on August 04, 2011, 05:54:19 PM
im there.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: ZBomber on August 04, 2011, 05:55:22 PM
BONERS


[/chris]
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Sigz on August 04, 2011, 06:07:11 PM
im there.

im jelly.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: lateralus88 on August 04, 2011, 06:09:42 PM
That is actually a really fucking cool idea.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Quadrochosis on August 04, 2011, 06:10:58 PM
im there.

im jelly.

do you have a link to this announcement?
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Sigz on August 04, 2011, 06:13:13 PM
im there.

im jelly.

do you have a link to this announcement?

I just got it in the newsletter, should be posted on their website soon.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Sigz on August 04, 2011, 06:15:52 PM
Also, both Bath and Leaving Your Body Map are coming to spotify on August 8th, so you bitches have no reason not to hear them.

Also also, Bath and LYBM are getting a boxset vinyl release through Antithetic Records soon.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Ravenheart on August 04, 2011, 06:17:05 PM
I've listened to both. Really beautiful stuff. Girl With a Watering Can is an insanely good song.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Sigz on August 04, 2011, 06:17:39 PM
HAVE YOU LISTENED TO CHOIRS OF THE EYE YET
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Ravenheart on August 04, 2011, 06:19:25 PM
NOT NOT YET BUT I SWEAR I'LL GET AROUND TO IT SOON I HAVE SOME FREE TIME TONIGHT STOP YELLING AT ME PURPLE YELLOW PURPLE YELLOW PURPLE YELLOW
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: ClairvoyantCat on August 04, 2011, 06:19:55 PM
THAT IS GOOD I HOPE YOU LIKE IT

Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Sigz on August 04, 2011, 06:22:30 PM
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST ZANDER HURRY THE FUCK UP YOUR LIFE IS MEANINGLESS UNTIL YOUVE HEARD IT
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Ravenheart on August 04, 2011, 06:26:16 PM
OK OK OK OK OK I'LL LISTEN TO IT THEN TELL ALL MY FRIENDS TO LISTEN TO IT OR I SHIT ON THEIR HEADS
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: OskarSluring on August 05, 2011, 03:30:33 AM
Also, both Bath and Leaving Your Body Map are coming to spotify on August 8th, so you bitches have no reason not to hear them.
I've been waiting over a year for this, i'm soooooo happy now  :metal
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: seasonsinthesky on August 05, 2011, 04:30:48 AM
the live album + overdubs idea is great — very King Crimson (i.e. "Level Five" as well as a bunch of stuff on Starless and Bible Black).

i am absolutely buying the Bath/LYBM vinyl package, expensive as it may be. Part the Second and Stained Glass are on their way to me now (somewhere)!
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Quadrochosis on August 05, 2011, 07:59:15 AM
I have the TD solo album on for the first time now. This is crazy good.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Sigz on August 05, 2011, 06:16:25 PM
I have the TD solo album on for the first time now. This is crazy good.

 :tup

I totally fanboyed out over it when I met Toby back in February.

Actually, I totally fanboyed out over him in general, but especially that album.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Quadrochosis on August 05, 2011, 06:44:56 PM
Yea, tbh what I was expecting, and what I heard were two compeltely different things. It was very, very good though. Really enjoyed it.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Ravenheart on August 07, 2011, 10:58:13 PM
Just finished Choirs... really amazing stuff. It felt very other-worldly, and I loved the use of saxophones and violins. I enjoyed it much more than Bath, which was still an excellent album, but Choirs cranked everything up a notch--more atmosphere, more layers, and just so much more to explore and allow myself to feel immersed in. There were so many genres and styles incorporated into it, but they all felt natural and threaded with each other to allow for coherence.

Wayfarer stuck out to me the most, and The Antique is probably a close second.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Sigz on August 07, 2011, 10:59:20 PM
:D
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on August 07, 2011, 11:00:28 PM
That's great. :biggrin: Usually The Antique (and The Manifold Curiosity) is the one that takes the most time for people to digest. My favourite is all of them, but if you had a gun to my head, my favourites would be The Manifold Curiosity and Marathon.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: ClairvoyantCat on August 07, 2011, 11:00:55 PM
Just finished Choirs... really amazing stuff. It felt very other-worldly, and I loved the use of saxophones and violins. I enjoyed it much more than Bath, which was still an excellent album, but Choirs cranked everything up a notch--more atmosphere, more layers, and just so much more to explore and allow myself to feel immersed in. There were so many genres and styles incorporated into it, but they all felt natural and threaded with each other to allow for coherence.

Wayfarer stuck out to me the most, and The Antique is probably a close second.


 :heart :heart :heart :heart :) :) :) :heart  Hooray
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: lateralus88 on August 08, 2011, 12:54:14 AM
Had a dream last night that I found a copy of Bath at a local record store for $10 and I bought it.



Then I woke up and punched a child out of rage.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Quadrochosis on August 08, 2011, 06:19:20 AM
Just finished Choirs... really amazing stuff. It felt very other-worldly, and I loved the use of saxophones and violins. I enjoyed it much more than Bath, which was still an excellent album, but Choirs cranked everything up a notch--more atmosphere, more layers, and just so much more to explore and allow myself to feel immersed in. There were so many genres and styles incorporated into it, but they all felt natural and threaded with each other to allow for coherence.

Wayfarer stuck out to me the most, and The Antique is probably a close second.

I have a strong feeling that Choirs will become a fast favorite of mine too, but it's taking me a while to really digest it. There's just so much going on that you really need to pay attention for and Bath is just more upfront, so it was easier for me to dig it.

After like 4 plays of the album my favorite was TMC though. Great buildup, that song gives me chills everytime.

Basically Toby Driver is amazing and I've yet to hear something I didn't like (After checking out Bath, LYBM, Choirs, and Library)
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on September 20, 2011, 09:09:15 PM
Bumped to say I've really been digging Calonyction Girl lately. So odd and awesome.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on September 29, 2011, 06:15:30 PM
Happy birthday Toby! :metal :metal
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Sigz on November 17, 2011, 05:14:42 PM
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NEW KAYO DOT ALBUM DETAILS

 We've been keeping a bit quiet about this one ever since our concert of new material on October 5, which we recorded for the sake of turning into an official release. For all of you that were there, thanks for showing your support and participating! Here are the release details:

 The album contains four songs, runs a little under half an hour, and is entitled Gamma Knife. It was recorded by Toby Driver and Jeremiah Cymerman. It's going to be mixed by Randall Dunn shortly at the end of November, and released IMMEDIATELY after mastering - so, mid-December. Let's say December 16. If you're one of those weird impatient types that makes your best-of-the-year lists before December is over, well, shame on you.

 This immediate album release I mentioned is going to be the digital-only version, self-released by the band, without the help of a label. It'll be available on our own website, iTunes, eMusic, etc. etc. And the hardcopy version is going to come just in time for our May 2012 USA tour, possibly through a label. So, look for that sometime in April.

 The lineup:
 Live ensemble:
 Toby Driver - bass, guitar, keys, and vox.
 Terran Olson - alto sax.
 Dan Means - alto sax.
 Keith Abrams - drums.
 Tim Byrnes and Ron Varod - audience direction.

 with: Mia Matsumiya - violin.
 David Bodie - percussion.

 Once again featuring lyrics by the inimitable Jason Byron.


SPRING 2012 USA TOUR

 We're currently in the process of booking a full-USA tour for May 2012! Yes, full US! It's being handled by our new booking agent Starbird Promotions out of Portland, Oregon. If you'd like to host us at your place, please email Carly at starbirdpromo@gmail.com


MAUDLIN OF THE WELL VINYL BOX SET

 I occasionally receive emails from people asking about whether the old maudlin of the Well double album, Bath/Leaving Your Body Map is available to buy. Until now, it hasn't been... it's been sadly out of print on CD for years, and we certainly don't have any extra copies.

 However, coming this winter, Antithetic Records (out of Florida) has teamed up with Blood Music (out of Finland) to re-release this legendary double-album on vinyl for the first time ever. This will be a box set, 4 LPs plus a 7-inch of "The Secret Song," (and of course, download codes for all the music) replete with extras such as a brand new poster, 10th-anniversary T-shirt, and maudlin of the Well logo guitar picks (what!!!). Most of these extra items are bonuses that accompany pre-orders only!

 Also, we need about 150 pre-orders in order to be able to even go into production, since this is a box set and will be quite expensive to produce. The pressing will be limited to 300 copies.

 So! If you're interested, please head over to one of the labels' stores (Antithetic for US and Canada and Blood Music for anywhere else in the world) and pre-order this baby!

 BLOOD MUSIC -- Worldwide (except USA/Canada):
https://bloodmusic.bigcartel.com

 ANTITHETIC RECORDS -- USA/Canada only:
https://antitheticrecords.storeenvy.com



SPOKEN WORD 7" FOR ANISEED RECORDS

 I'm currently in the process of finishing up a very special spoken word track for a series of split 7" records to be released by Aniseed Records out of Australia. The series will also feature Eugene S. Robinson (Ox Bow), Mike Sukys, and others. I think I'm the one holding up production on this. So as soon as I get my track into them, we can expect the record shortly after! More news on actually buying a copy to come later.


TARTAR LAMB II SHIPPING!

 Well, it's been almost a year since our kickstarter campaign to produce the Tartar Lamb II album, Polyimage Of Known Exits, and the production process was quite long. We've received a lot of emails asking about the status of the kickstarter and pre-order shipments, and I'm happy to say that the packages have begun to go out. There are a lot of them, so the mailing process will take several more days. Thanks for being so patient!

 For all who are expecting the DVD in your packages - we aren't quite finished even making the DVD yet, so when we do finish, we'll send these out under separate cover.



 That's all. Thanks for reading, thanks for listening!
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on November 17, 2011, 08:35:25 PM
Short album is short.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Ultimetalhead on November 17, 2011, 08:44:48 PM
Why the fuck are they releasing Bath/Body Map on vinyl? I might actually buy it if they'd put it on a relevant medium that I could listen to in my car.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Blood Music on November 18, 2011, 06:45:31 AM
Hello angry metalhead who doesn't like vinyl!

We are the co-releaser of the vinyl box set.  There are less than 25 left before they are sold out forever.

Everything has been approved according to the complete wishes of the rights holder and the band.  The rights holder has no wish to repress this on CD at the moment (or ever in the future, as far as we know).  These releases have been out on CD several times but never on vinyl.

If you would like to listen to it in your car, it is possible to either download the albums on mp3 and burn them, buy the vinyl set and burn the official mp3s that we provide you (yes, this box set includes digital material too!), or purchase one of the CDs that's floating around the world somewhere.

Rest well knowing that this will be a brand new re-master from the original sources on a more archival medium than CD.

Toby's info provided is a little behind (we talked about the info in this newsletter a couple weeks ago).

We should be sold out of these box sets within a few days, as we're selling more everyday!
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Ultimetalhead on November 18, 2011, 07:39:30 AM
Man, I feel pretty awesome right now. My vinyl bitching attracted the attention of a vinyl propagator. While I respect your whole sales pitch with vinyl (A good deal of maudlin fans tend to be audiophiles, so I know these will sell quite easily), I feel like the whole idea of vinyl appeals to a very limited market. On top of that, maudlin fans in general are a very limited audience. I feel like re-releasing two killer albums exclusively on vinyl is one of the silliest things ever. If they were released on CD, there would be at least a small probability that they would end up getting a slightly wider exposure.

Why not start pushing the cassette tape as a better quality medium right now? Release them both on cassette and tell the audiophiles that the sound quality beats vinyl into the ground. If we're going to keep going in circles with technology, let's just rush it along so CDs can become cool again.

I realized I'm coming off as pretty bitter here, but this whole vinyl movement makes me mildly irritated.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: seasonsinthesky on November 18, 2011, 07:41:48 AM
Hello angry metalhead who doesn't like vinyl!

We are the co-releaser of the vinyl box set.  There are less than 25 left before they are sold out forever.

Everything has been approved according to the complete wishes of the rights holder and the band.  The rights holder has no wish to repress this on CD at the moment (or ever in the future, as far as we know).  These releases have been out on CD several times but never on vinyl.

If you would like to listen to it in your car, it is possible to either download the albums on mp3 and burn them, buy the vinyl set and burn the official mp3s that we provide you (yes, this box set includes digital material too!), or purchase one of the CDs that's floating around the world somewhere.

Rest well knowing that this will be a brand new re-master from the original sources on a more archival medium than CD.

Toby's info provided is a little behind (we talked about the info in this newsletter a couple weeks ago).

We should be sold out of these box sets within a few days, as we're selling more everyday!

thanks for your work! i'm horribly excited to receive my copy (and own the masterpieces, finally).
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Blood Music on November 18, 2011, 07:59:49 AM
Ultimetal:

I respect your thoughts.  And thus hopefully you would respect ours too. 

First, please acknowledge the part that says that there is a rights holder who is licensing this to us for VINYL ONLY.  As well, the band has attempted to get these onto vinyl for quite some time and finally all agreements were made amenable.

In addition to the archival factors (vinyl can in theory last for 50-100 years or more if well-maintained, versus CDs which have a very limited shelf-life), the sound quality is considered to be different and often better, as well the fact that limited vinyl releases are more specialized/carefully administered/collectible/unable to be copied/created for audiophiles and the super fans. 

If we were to release this on CD, there is no doubt that we could have made a ton more profit on each unit and reached a wider audience.  But that is not the point.  The digital versions of these records are quite easily available.  I don't think there's been a huge attempt to hide the fact that these are freely downloadable.  motW's latest album was distributed freely.

The only way to make a difference in this world is to make the change, though.  So, I encourage you instead of being angry and telling us we're doing the wrong thing... to start releasing CD's yourself :)

We are releasing this set because we believe in it.  Personally, I have been listening to vinyl since I was a child and never stopped.  I went from being interested in vinyl pop as a youth to vinyl punk and hardcore as a teenager and into metal vinyl as an adult.  So for me, there's been no huge retro shift.  If you saw my collection, it contains records from all periods of my life. 

I can't speak for others, but I am going to be very happy to own this now on official CD and vinyl.

As an aside, I signed up for this board a few days ago, but an administrator just approved me, so I came here just in time to talk to you   :tup

--

seasonsinthesky:

Thank you!  We can't wait to get these pressed either.  We're so close to selling out, and we've already begun the production process!
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Ultimetalhead on November 18, 2011, 08:09:09 AM
Fine then. Next time you see Toby, tell him I think he's a sillypants.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Blood Music on November 18, 2011, 08:48:46 AM
We're in Finland, so it may be a while... but I will :)

I do hope for your sake it will come on CD again at some point!
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: lateralus88 on November 18, 2011, 11:29:56 AM
Oh boy.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Sigz on November 18, 2011, 03:05:21 PM
wtf
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Blood Music on November 18, 2011, 03:44:12 PM
The guy was upset, so I gave him the answer!

Our USA partner label just SOLD OUT.  We are the only ones in the world with remaining copies.  We've got a few left and are shipping worldwide.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Blood Music on November 23, 2011, 06:24:53 AM
Last minute BLACK FRIDAY sale to USA only!  Blood Music will offer on 11/25 the one-time limited offer of FREE SHIPPING to USA!  This will last from 8AM (EST) to MIDNIGHT (EST) on Friday only. 

We were able to get a great deal on shipping just for this day.  Apologies to people living anywhere else, we just got lucky here.

We have less than 15 copies remaining, this may sell us out.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Elite on November 23, 2011, 03:11:33 PM
I'm actually very tempted to just do this, my only gripe with it is that's it's vinyl, which I don't have a player for. Will this ever be, or has this ever been released on CD?
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Sigz on November 23, 2011, 03:14:50 PM
It's been released on CD, but it's currently out of print and thus pretty hard to find/expensive.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Blood Music on November 23, 2011, 10:57:25 PM
Hey there, as Sigz says, CDs have been released... a couple of times but in limited numbers, and they've been out of print now for about 5 years, so... the eBay costs can come in as much as this set.

As far as we know, the rights holder doesn't ever intend to repress this on CD.  Of course, there are no guarantees in life, but that's how it stands now.

There will be a very limited run of a more barebones version (regular black vinyl in jackets) in a bit, but the box sets are just about sold out.  We'll have free USA shipping just for the one day.

It'll just be marked down on our store between the stated hours on Fri:

https://bloodmusic.bigcartel.com

Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Elite on November 24, 2011, 05:51:59 PM
Well, I just did it. I bought it. However, this is the first time ever I've bought something with Paypal, so please help me out on this one.
How can I see whether I've paid or not, and how will I know from you guys that you got my money (or not)?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Blood Music on November 24, 2011, 08:41:19 PM
Hey Elite, I sent you a private message, or you can e-mail us at the contact link on our webstore.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: faemir on November 27, 2011, 03:58:00 PM
Listening to Part the Second, first time since it came out pretty much.

This is fun.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Blood Music on December 21, 2011, 02:35:28 PM
So, after all that ranting about CD's... :) We listened to the few fans who were asking for them and tried to nab the rights:

Just came to follow-up that we just picked up rights to re-release the long out-of-print Bath and Leaving Your Body Map in limited edition CD packages with a few extra never-before-released bonus songs.

Also, the previously never-before-released Part the Second CD.

These will come in limited runs of 250 copies only.

Proceeds from the agreement are going towards funding the final mixing stages of Kayo Dot's new album "Gamma Knife."
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Sigz on December 21, 2011, 02:37:52 PM
 :omg: :omg: :omg:
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Gorille85 on December 21, 2011, 02:42:04 PM
OK I need to get some of those.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Elite on December 21, 2011, 02:45:25 PM
:omg:

First I buy vinyl. Now CD is out. You guys are going to make me broke  :lol

How to get these?
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Blood Music on December 21, 2011, 05:32:00 PM
Sorry there :) But we found people upset in a handful of places that the CD's were not available. 

As far as going broke, not to worry about these.  These will be normal CD prices.  And, the vinyl sets will definitely retain their value.  We are not printing those box sets again.

Best would be to add us on FB or to send us your e-mail address through our webstore.  You'll know either way when they're out.  We'll make an announcement on our FB about all our upcoming releases just after the New Year.

https://www.blood-music.com
https://www.facebook.com/BlooodMusic
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Ultimetalhead on December 21, 2011, 05:33:44 PM
Sweet. I'll definitely be picking this up now.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Blood Music on December 21, 2011, 05:51:20 PM
Sweet. I'll definitely be picking this up now.

Great :)

Sorry for the debate earlier.  We may fight, but we listen   ;D
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: The King in Crimson on December 21, 2011, 06:36:41 PM
Cool, definitely looking forward to this.

Trying (and failing) to buy Bath at non-wallet-destroying prices on ebay was starting to get old.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on January 04, 2012, 02:02:43 PM
Everyone who hasn't already should listen to Gamma Knife now.

https://kayodot.bandcamp.com/
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: PetrucciFan99 on January 04, 2012, 07:18:46 PM
Everyone who hasn't already should listen to Gamma Knife now.

https://kayodot.bandcamp.com/

gave the new album a listen before. really great stuff!!
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Sigz on January 04, 2012, 07:22:16 PM
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Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: ZBomber on January 04, 2012, 10:52:22 PM
Man, I feel pretty awesome right now. My vinyl bitching attracted the attention of a vinyl propagator. While I respect your whole sales pitch with vinyl (A good deal of maudlin fans tend to be audiophiles, so I know these will sell quite easily), I feel like the whole idea of vinyl appeals to a very limited market. On top of that, maudlin fans in general are a very limited audience. I feel like re-releasing two killer albums exclusively on vinyl is one of the silliest things ever. If they were released on CD, there would be at least a small probability that they would end up getting a slightly wider exposure.

Why not start pushing the cassette tape as a better quality medium right now? Release them both on cassette and tell the audiophiles that the sound quality beats vinyl into the ground. If we're going to keep going in circles with technology, let's just rush it along so CDs can become cool again.

I realized I'm coming off as pretty bitter here, but this whole vinyl movement makes me mildly irritated.

get a turntable.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: PetrucciFan99 on January 05, 2012, 10:03:15 AM
imo some albums sound better on vinyl. tends to be the more organic ones usually, but i can imagine driver's music being really cool to hear on wax. that being said, i'm happy to hear his music on any format.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Sigz on February 28, 2012, 10:08:43 AM
whoa, that Vaura demo is really amazing. hope that becomes something soon!

Vaura album is available: https://www.wierdrecords.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=134

For those who haven't heard, there's a song up on their bandcamp: https://vaura.bandcamp.com/
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Blood Music on March 09, 2012, 08:19:07 AM
motW CDs.  Got only ~100 copies of each left for pre-order!

https://www.blood-music.com/store

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Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Zantera on March 09, 2012, 08:43:39 AM
Cant wait until they ship... looks really awesome.  :tup
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Blood Music on March 09, 2012, 01:18:40 PM
Thanks!  We're really excited about how well they came out!!  Going off to Toby for signing now.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Elite on March 16, 2012, 11:15:29 AM
I am, from now on, the proud and very happy owner of the Bath/Leaving Your Body Map LP Box Set.
Damn! It took 5 months from when I bought it for it to get here, but I'm as happy as a little idiot at the moment. It just came in and. Wow, I'm at a loss for words. I haven't actually opened it yet, I'm afraid yet very curious at the same time. I'm going to take it to my mom's place tonight, because she has a record player, and I don't.

I'm actually still ambivalent about playing it. You know, with it being one of only 300 copies in the world.
I can not contain this awesomeness and happiness. Sorry for this incoherent post, but THANK YOU BLOOD MUSIC!!!  :)  :)  :)  :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Gorille85 on March 17, 2012, 05:55:49 PM
I WANT A BATH CD!!! :(
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Zantera on March 18, 2012, 04:07:54 AM
I WANT A BATH CD!!! :(

Just buy it from the website? Still available.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Gorille85 on March 18, 2012, 05:24:31 PM
Ryan told me they sold out!! D:
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Pockets17red on March 18, 2012, 05:50:55 PM
Ryan told me they sold out!! D:

They have almost 100 copies of each album still available.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Pockets17red on March 18, 2012, 05:59:30 PM
Ryan told me they sold out!! D:

They have at least 26 copies of each album on CD
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Zantera on March 19, 2012, 03:46:41 AM
Ryan told me they sold out!! D:

Maybe he talked about the signed versions.
Still, you should pick up Part the Second and Leaving Your Body Map as well, they're certainly not any worse then Bath. :P (meaning it in a good way)
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Gorille85 on March 19, 2012, 09:18:56 AM
hmm well hmm ok hmmmmmm
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Tripp on March 30, 2012, 09:45:23 PM
Just placed my order for a copy of Bath,

here's hoping I can still get Leaving Your Body Map before they sell out.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Pockets17red on March 30, 2012, 10:10:11 PM
hmm well hmm ok hmmmmmm
Straight from Blood Music's facebook
"We have around 75 copies left of all three maudlin of the Well's CDs for pre-order. They will be released on April 13th (two weeks away). If we sell out of these shortly, then we will repress My Fruit Psychobells as well. Don't pass it by!"
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Tripp on March 30, 2012, 10:33:08 PM
hmm well hmm ok hmmmmmm
Straight from Blood Music's facebook
"We have around 75 copies left of all three maudlin of the Well's CDs for pre-order. They will be released on April 13th (two weeks away). If we sell out of these shortly, then we will repress My Fruit Psychobells as well. Don't pass it by!"

This gives me hope! I may actually have a chance to get LYBM as well! Sweeeet.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Ultimetalhead on March 31, 2012, 06:23:09 AM
I REALLY wish I had money. I'd love to have all three of them.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Blood Music on April 13, 2012, 12:08:00 AM
As has been stated in the other thread, we still have some copies left of all 3 albums.

Additionally, we just decided to pick up My Fruit Psychobells for a re-release, but that won't come for some months.

The *signed* versions sold out within 24 hours. 

The non-signed versions sold like lightning the first few days and are still chugging along.  We're selling a few copies everyday.  At this rate, they will be gone within about a month at latest.

Release date is today BTW, and everything is starting to ship :)
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Blood Music on April 23, 2012, 12:53:50 AM
Heads up to anyone following this thread, all pre-orders were shipped.  They nearly gutted us... we have 28 copies of "Part the Second" left... !
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation
Post by: Blood Music on May 02, 2012, 02:20:18 PM
Hey folks in this thread... we've only got 10 copies left :)
Title: Maudlin Of The Well
Post by: crazyaga on May 07, 2012, 07:42:16 PM
after listening to bath for the first time... im TOTALLY blown away. what an amazing album
listening to Part The Second now.
Title: Re: Maudlin Of The Well
Post by: Gorille85 on May 07, 2012, 07:49:34 PM
maudlin of the Well* :P


I'm still waiting for my CDs...
Title: Re: Maudlin Of The Well
Post by: Heretic on May 07, 2012, 08:30:26 PM
Bath is really cool, I enjoy it more with each subsequent listen. I absolutely love The Ferryman.
Title: Re: Maudlin Of The Well
Post by: Tripp on May 07, 2012, 08:57:56 PM
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=1715.0
Title: Re: Maudlin Of The Well
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on May 07, 2012, 09:04:14 PM
Yeah we gots a thread. Awesome band. Bath is an alltime favourite of mine.
Title: Re: Maudlin Of The Well
Post by: Sigz on May 07, 2012, 10:44:07 PM
One of my favorite bands ever, but yeah we already have a thread for them.
Title: Re: Maudlin Of The Well
Post by: crazyaga on May 08, 2012, 03:41:28 AM
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=1715.0
i went to the "A-Z index of band threads" befpre making this topic..
that thread doesnt apear there.
Title: Re: Maudlin Of The Well
Post by: crazyaga on May 08, 2012, 03:42:13 AM
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=1715.0
i went to the "A-Z index of band threads" before making this topic..
that thread doesnt apear there.
Title: Re: Maudlin Of The Well
Post by: Zantera on May 08, 2012, 03:46:13 AM
In a few cases they haven't been added yet, but normally we just point it out there and the list gets updated.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Sigz on May 16, 2012, 03:28:19 PM
New news letter from Toby:

-Kickstarter for new music/performance art collaboration (it's.... out there)
-Gamma Knife Vinyl preorder
-he's working on solo songs and new Kayo Dot in a Gamma Knife style, which will be studio recorded (:caffeine:)
-Kayo Dot west coast tour August 16th-September 1st
-Tartar Lamb, Library Loft, motW, and Kayo Dot now all on one bandcamp page, free streaming for all

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Fear of humiliating failure aside, I'm trying to prevent myself from becoming a lesbian-coiffed aging rocker by writing music for "classical," "fine arts," and/or "serious" contexts such as amazing creepy zombie-esque Japanese modern dance forms!

In April, I held a performance of such a piece, ICHNEUMONIDAE, as a trio (guitar, violin, and dance/percussion). I like to think of that performance as sort of like a flag along the road of commitment to a larger-scale and more intensive work. So, the time has now come to try to expand this piece for a larger ensemble and actually make some killer media (album, film, yes!!!) out of it that people can enjoy at home. Ergo, a Kickstarter campaign to try to get this thing going...!

I would so so so greatly appreciate it if you could take a look at the project page and consider donating to support the production of this movie. I'm super-excited to finally take this first step into the realm of combining intrinsic visual elements with my music, something I have always wanted to do.  https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tdriver/toby-driver-and-michelle-morinaga-ichneumonidae

It took me a while to decide which one of my running projects to try to fund this way. I've got a whole bunch of things on my plate, such as a handful of solo songs, as well as new Kayo Dot stuff (in the style of Gamma Knife and hoping to do a real studio recording, what!) But, I decided to do Ichneumonidae here because it seems like the MOST difficult to fund through other means. Just to be candid for a minute here, you know there is a whole scene of musicians who apply for and receive grants/commissions to do stuff like this. I tried to get into that world a bit over the past couple of years and have had no luck with it whatsoever. Can't get anything funded through those means. Really, that sort of thing makes a guy start to get pretty dark on himself, to be succinct. And labels don't want to fund Ichneumonidae, it's unmarketable. Anyway, you guys are the listeners. You're the people that actually want to put this stuff on your iPods and have it come at you during a rainy train ride, instead of keeping it on a shelf in an archive of all the classy shit your organization helped produce and only pulls out of storage when it comes time to apply for more funding. So if you're interested in hearing/seeing it, please consider donating to the kickstarter campaign, that's the only way it'll happen!  https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tdriver/toby-driver-and-michelle-morinaga-ichneumonidae

Yeah, I know it seems like summer is kickstarter season and everyone's doing it. I felt a little bit weird about launching this at this exact moment just because two of my closest friends have also just launched their own kickstarter campaigns for their own incredible music. Just want you to know that we are not competitive. You can check their projects out at the following links, and also please consider donating. Their music needs to be out in the world and it gets my highest recommendation.

Tim Byrnes/Hazel-Rah: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1158799759/hazel-rah-the-full-length-album

Jeremiah Cymerman: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1767687795/purification-dissolution

And, this one: https://www.ifc.com/portlandia/videos/portlandia-kickstarter

---------

In other news, the Kayo Dot west coast tour has been moved to August 16-September 1. We have some if it booked already but are still looking for dates. If you can help, please get in touch!

And - our most recent album GAMMA KNIFE is having its vinyl and CD release and  is available for preorder at https://antitheticrecords.storenvy.com/products/327764-kayo-dot-gamma-knife-12

And - I've just put almost ALL of my recorded output up for streaming, buying, downloading, whatever, at https://kayodot.bandcamp.com - check it!!!!


Thanks for reading. Your support means everything,
much love
Toby Driver
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Blood Music on May 17, 2012, 10:13:34 PM
To all those who have not gotten motW on vinyl.  We're going to have a one day sale on Tuesday, May 22nd (8PM Finland/1PM NYC), taking 10€ off the original price.  That's 29.99€ for both.  Only 40 copies left of each.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: crazyaga on June 15, 2012, 09:14:11 AM
interesting stuff i noticed about Bath/Leaving Your Body Map:

1. They got the album covers of each other.
2. Whan you look closely at the cover of Bath, you can see the road leads to the album cover of Leaving Your Body Map
3.The signs at the side of the road in the album cover: the first one is saturn, second one is Uranus, after that Neptune, and last one is Pluto.
The road is painted on the sun, the Bath at the end of the road is outside the solar system.
4. The melody the guitar plays at 2:35 in " The Blue Ghost/Shedding Qliphoth" is played backwards in 1:30 in "Stones of October's Sobbing"
5. Bath is 61 minutes and 2 seconds long, while Leaving Your Body Map is exactly 61 minutes long. like there are 2 missing seconds.
is the missing seconds symbolize the "Secret Song" that was released along with those 2 albums?
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Sigz on March 14, 2013, 01:13:41 AM
Next album out this fall, tis a double album:

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Hello everyone!

I feel like it's been a while since I've sent one of these. A lot has happened, but I want to keep this message focused mainly on one thing - the new and forthcoming Kayo Dot album!

Basically what's going on is that we've been working on an epic double-album prog masterwork. I'm pasting the press release below so you can read all the details and trade it around, post it on your blogs (if you would be so kind!) and all that. We think this is one of the best things we've ever done, honest. So, we're incredibly excited about it. It'll be our first pro studio album in a few years', too... the last two were more or less home recordings due to budget constraints. So, the pre-order is really what's going to make this possible for us or not - therefore, if this is something that interests you, please place a pre-order now! We need to sell a bunch of these before the beginning of April... crunch!!! Check out the press release below.

And, since we're running a new preorder for Kayo Dot, I also wanted to anticipate any questions about the Ichneumonidae DVD and record that we funded last year. If you're not on my facebook or missed the post, the music part is totally finished - there are some samples from Ichneumonidae up at this soundcloud link: https://soundcloud.com/tobydriver/sets/ichneumonidae-unmastered-clips . And the film portion is still forthcoming. I hope the audio clips can tide you over until we are able to make that happen.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Boston-born, and now New York City-based veteran avant-metallers KAYO DOT, led by Toby Driver, are set to hit the studio for their 7th album, Hubardo, this April. This album will mark the 10-year anniversary of KAYO DOT's debut and landmark release, Choirs of The Eye, and the band will trek out to Avast Studios in Seattle, Washington, with producer RANDALL DUNN (SunnO))), Wolves In The Throne Room, Black Mountain) returning to the helm.

Hubardo is an approximately 90-minute conceptual epic double-album, with story and lyrics written by longtime lyricist and former MAUDLIN OF THE WELL vocalist, Jason Byron. Musically, the album covers the spectrum of all of the band's works, from the sparse doomy elements of Choirs of The Eye, to the blast-beat, woodwind-driven Gamma Knife, the chorus-bass goth fusion of Coyote, and even lush orchestrated prog moments harkening back to the days of their previous band, MAUDLIN OF THE WELL, and, as with all the band's releases, Driver and Co. venturing into new territory. The album sees a returning cast of characters with Toby Driver on Bass, Keys, Guitars and Vocals, Terran Olson on Keys and Woodwinds, Daniel Means on Woodwinds and Synth, Mia Matsumiya on violin, Tim Byrnes on Trumpet and Horn in F, the first proper studio recording with Keith Abrams on drums, and the first recording contribution of longtime live collaborator Ron Varod on Guitar. Hubardo will also feature a very special guest vocal appearance by Jason Byron - his first recorded appearance since MAUDLIN OF THE WELL's 2001 albums, Bath and Leaving Your Body Map.

This album will be self-released on the band's own imprint, ICE LEVEL MUSIC, and pre-orders will be taken to help fund the recording and travel costs. Pre-Orders will be offered in 3xLP Deluxe, Standard, and Digital-only editions, featuring limited 200g colored vinyl in a triple gatefold (6 huge panels of artwork), a 5-chapter poem by Jason Byron entitled The Sword Of Satan, signed poster, T-shirt, guitar pick, and sticker. The Pre-Order system is now LIVE at https://kayodot.bigcartel.com

Here is the track listing for the album:

1. The Black Stone (~7:00)
2. Crown-In-The-Muck (~9:00)
3. Thief (~5:30)
4. Vision Adjustment To Another Wavelength (~5:00)
5. Zodelida Caosaji (To Water The Earth) (~6:00)
6. The First Matter (Saturn In The Guise Of Sadness) (~9:30)
7. The Second Operation (Lunar Water) (~10:30)
8. Floodgate (~7:00)
9. And He Built Him A Boat (~7:00)
10. Passing The River (~8:00)
11. The Wait Of The World (~18:00)
The Pre-Order system is now LIVE at https://kayodot.bigcartel.com and the records will be limited to 300 copies for the Deluxe Edition and 200 copies for the Standard Edition. Hubardo is slated for a fall 2013 release to coincide with Kayo Dot's tenth anniversary.

Thanks for reading, and for your continued support!

Toby Driver on behalf of Kayo Dot.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Zantera on March 14, 2013, 02:18:30 AM
Really exciting news. Wanted to preorder the deluxe, but with shipping here it becomes 90 dollars. I still might, but I gotta think about it first.

Edit: Caved in an ordered it. 92 dollars, fml.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: adace on July 09, 2013, 05:27:44 PM
new song: https://kayodot.bandcamp.com/track/and-he-built-him-a-boat-2 (https://kayodot.bandcamp.com/track/and-he-built-him-a-boat-2)
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on July 09, 2013, 05:31:31 PM
YES :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: senecadawg2 on July 09, 2013, 10:16:14 PM
Very cool, sounds invigoratingly new and fresh. I'm really excited for Hubardo.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Ultimetalhead on July 10, 2013, 03:19:02 AM
This is fucking awesome. Definitely going to pre-order the digital version now.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: senecadawg2 on August 28, 2013, 01:43:37 PM
Bumpity bump bump!

Check out the new track, Thief

https://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2013/08/01/207932250/vikings-choice-kayo-dot-sums-up-a-decade-of-sonic-transgression-in-thief (https://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2013/08/01/207932250/vikings-choice-kayo-dot-sums-up-a-decade-of-sonic-transgression-in-thief)

I have a strong feeling this album will come in near the top of my year's end list  :tup :tup
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: crazyaga on August 29, 2013, 12:33:41 PM
The two other tracks they released that arent named "thief" are even better. seems like the best thing toby has done since part the second.


https://www.cvltnation.com/exclusive-cvlt-nation-streaming-kayo-dot-passing-river/

https://www.invisibleoranges.com/2013/07/stream-kayo-dot-and-he-built-him-a-boat/
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Heretic on August 30, 2013, 09:43:53 PM
The album is pretty crazy. Not sure what to think after the first listen, but it's got some really awesome sections.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on August 30, 2013, 11:36:14 PM
Album is fantastic.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Ultimetalhead on August 31, 2013, 08:29:50 AM
I'm excited about the album. I'm almost through with my first listen, and it's all completely blown through me. This is clearly going to need at least 10 listens to properly sink in, and I haven't heard an album like that in quite a long time.

Edit: The By-Tor and the Snow Dog section around 8 minutes in on the closing track is really neat.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Zantera on August 31, 2013, 08:50:17 AM
I really liked my first listen, but it was way much too take in all at once. It's gonna need time, and I'm gonna give it time.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: senecadawg2 on September 01, 2013, 11:38:56 AM
The first 20 minutes are hard to swallow. Of course, Choirs of the Eye was also hard for me to swallow, and that's one of my all time favorites now, so I'm definitely going to keep at it.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: adace on September 04, 2013, 01:24:59 AM
So Hubardo is just nuts. It's not something you can form a well thought-out opinion about on the first listen imo, but I'm definitely digging it. Like everyone else here I'm gonna give it some more time.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Zantera on September 04, 2013, 01:51:52 AM
Hubardo might just be my album of the year so far. A lot to digest and a lot to get into, but wow.. what an album.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: senecadawg2 on September 24, 2013, 08:09:43 PM
Someone, please, tell me what Kayo Dot is like live!
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Sigz on September 25, 2013, 02:09:43 PM
I saw them in a tiny club on the UK Coyote tour. They were excellent, even with a somewhat disappointing setlist. Great sound, very tight, no real visuals to speak of. They don't talk too much either, just get up and play. The Antique and On Limpid Form were absolutely devastating live.

Basically, I'd very much recommend it, especially since they tend to play very small clubs and such.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: senecadawg2 on September 25, 2013, 02:39:10 PM
Sweet! I'm going to go to at least one of their shows coming up in November, maybe even two. I expect the setlist will mainly be Hubardo (Album of the Year!), but I imagine anything from Choirs of the Eye would be astonishing to see live as well.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Zantera on September 25, 2013, 02:56:30 PM
Hubardo is still incredible. My album of the year so far.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on September 25, 2013, 05:08:57 PM
Hubardo is still incredible. My album of the year so far.
It's up there for me. Top 3 probably.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: senecadawg2 on September 25, 2013, 05:23:39 PM
Out of curiosity, what are the other two?
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on September 25, 2013, 05:33:02 PM
At the moment, probably The Raven That Refused to Sing and Tomorrow's Harvest.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on May 01, 2014, 07:42:29 PM
I've been really enjoying Part The Second lately, particularly Clover Garland Island. I also got Bath today, listening to it now.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: senecadawg2 on May 01, 2014, 07:52:51 PM
Speak of the devil! Just as I put on Choirs of the Eye for the first time in a couple months and check into DTF, a bump in this thread! Good choice on Bath, Shadow Ninja  :smiley:
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on May 01, 2014, 07:56:03 PM
Yeah, it's great so far. Unfortunately, I had to settle for the download, since I apparently missed the rerelease a few years ago. Hopefully they'll do another one sometime.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Zantera on May 02, 2014, 07:38:28 AM
Got my CD copy of Hubardo in the mail today. It's a limited (to 250 copies) release in Japan, so I'm happy I could get my hands on one. Still one of my favorites of 2014, such an incredible album.  :metal
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: sneakyblueberry on May 25, 2014, 05:39:31 PM
I ordered Part the Second on vinyl, at Christmas time.  Hadn't arrived.  Sorta forgot about it.  Then got an email from Toby in April saying they were all out, that he was trying to get some more, and if he didn't, he'd refund me.  It was a nice thing to wake up to.  An email from Toby Driver. 
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Ultimetalhead on May 25, 2014, 05:41:03 PM
Yeah. When I got my Kayo Dot shirt, I got a call from my Mom saying I had a package from Toby Driver. Awesome.

Also Bath is easily one of the best albums ever made.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Zantera on May 25, 2014, 05:50:14 PM
Yeah. When I got my Kayo Dot shirt, I got a call from my Mom saying I had a package from Toby Driver. Awesome.

Also Bath is easily one of the best albums ever made.

I would personally hold Choirs of the Eye and Hubardo higher, but Bath is brilliant. motW has such a strong discography, all 4 albums are terrific. I need to check out more of the KD albums though. I only know CotE, Hubardo and Gamma Knife.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Ultimetalhead on May 25, 2014, 05:52:00 PM
I can maybe see Choirs of the Eye, but Hubardo has its face stomped into the ground by Bath. It's not even remotely close. There are parts of Hubardo that I love a lot, but so much of it just meanders along without any sense of direction or purpose. At least when Bath meanders it does so while constantly adding new layers and things to focus on.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on May 25, 2014, 05:54:17 PM
Controversial opinion of the day:
While Bath definitely has higher highs, I think Leaving Your Body Map is more consistent in quality, and just a tad bit better overall.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Zantera on May 26, 2014, 08:01:37 AM
I actually used to think that Leaving Your Body Map was their best album for a long time. I haven't listened to maudlin in maybe a year, so I honestly don't know how I would rank their discography now, but maybe having those two albums tied. They are "twin" albums after all.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: senecadawg2 on July 18, 2014, 10:14:49 AM
Bump, bump, bumptitty bump bump. I found a nice surprise in my mailbox today!

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Kayo Dot - Coffins on Io


Led by founding member Toby Driver (also of Secret Chiefs 3), Kayo Dot emerged in Boston, MA in 2002 from the ashes of metal group Maudlin of the Well. Since then, Driver has led Kayo Dot through several lineup changes and dramatic stylistic shifts: from traditional metal, to atmospheric, avant-garde metal; and now with their new album Coffins on Io, the bats-in-your-belfry hard rock of Sisters of Mercy meets Peter Gabriel-era Genesis, Scritti Politti and early Roxy Music.

In 2013, Kayo Dot demarcated the beginning of a sonic change by releasing their critically acclaimed conceptual double-albumHubardo. Undeniably experimental, but largely unclassifiable, Hubardo received rave reviews: SputnikMusic ranked it among their best albums of 2013, and CVLT Nation called it, “mesmerizing avant garde blackened doom,” and a “towering achievement.”

But when it comes to Kayo Dot, change is the only constant. And like the best pop culture chameleons of the past, Kayo Dot’s evolution is governed by an inscrutable inner-logic. Despite the accessible songwriting of Coffins on Io and the emphasis on vocal melody and electronic percussion, Kayo Dot fans will find the record’s darkness and intensity familiar and relatable. For example: the dark wave of Coffins on Io album-track “Off-ramp Cycle” might be unrecognizable to Kayo Dot’s metal fans. “The sound is kind of like a sexy combination of Type O Negative, Peter Gabriel, Sisters of Mercy,” Driver says. But the track also encompasses the brooding menace of classic Bauhaus as well as current dark wavers Cold Cave and Crystal Stilts: artists young and old who live and die in those unknowable corners where heaviness meets delicacy and sincerity meets theatricality.

Elsewhere, Driver’s penchant for prog rock surfaces in the ethereal “Spirit Photography,” complete with a saxophone melody line—strikingly gentle when compared to Kayo Dot’s brutal back catalog. “Long Time Disturbance on the Miracle Mile” could be a Bryan Ferry-era Roxy Music cut, and “The Mortality of Doves” could be Eno-produced David Bowie.

Driver says there’s also an element of sexuality in Coffins on Io.“Basically the vibe that we’re going for here is inspired by 80s retro-future noir— Blade Runner,” Driver explains. “I wanted to make a good record to put on while you drive across the desert at night under a toxic, post-apocalyptic atmosphere,” he says, adding, “There’s a weird underlying theme of murder, shame and death.”

Coffins on Io is slated for on October 16th release via San Francisco’s Flenser Records. Pre-orders and more information coming soon.

1. The Mortality of Doves
2. Offramp Cycle, Pattern 22
3. Longtime Disturbance on the Miracle Mile
4. Library Subterranean
5. The Assassination of Adam
6. Spirit Photography

Sounds very different from Hubardo, which I guess is to be expected with a Kayo Dot album. I love the short description here: "a good record to put on while you drive across the desert at night under a toxic, post-apocalyptic atmosphere". I'm going to do my best to keep my expectations low, but this is good news nonetheless!

:caffeine:
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Kilgore Trout on July 19, 2014, 10:30:29 AM
I like the fact that they are going in a different direction than hubardo, there would be no point in trying to top it in the same vein, plus it is really soon after hubardo. But the vocals have always been the very weak point of Kayo dot, so I hope it won't too vocal-oriented.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Zantera on July 19, 2014, 10:44:40 AM
Vocals the weak point? What have you been smoking? Toby Driver is brilliant. I'd put him in my top15 vocalists without a doubt in my mind.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on July 19, 2014, 12:32:46 PM
Same. His "pained scream" sort of singing always gives me chills.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on July 19, 2014, 01:50:33 PM
I listened to Choirs of the Eye a little while ago.

Wow, that was some of the most unique, pretentious-sounding music I've heard.
Interesting, but can't really say I'm into it. :lol
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: senecadawg2 on July 19, 2014, 02:28:50 PM
Did you listen to it once?

Just asking because the first time I heard it I definitely didn't think it was something that I was into either. In fact, I could only take it in small doses the first couple times.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on July 19, 2014, 02:54:48 PM
Twice.

I just don't like how structureless and freeform the whole thing is.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Kilgore Trout on July 19, 2014, 03:14:07 PM
Vocals the weak point? What have you been smoking? Toby Driver is brilliant. I'd put him in my top15 vocalists without a doubt in my mind.
You might like this type of wailing but he's a terrible singer. He hasn't got the slightess bit of technique, and has clearly never worked on his voice. The vocals are amateurish, especially compared to the solid musicianship behind them.
Title: oh no not objectivity again
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on July 19, 2014, 03:17:34 PM
^ Rock solid facts up in here.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Zantera on July 19, 2014, 04:12:08 PM
If only Kayo Dot had a marvelous singer like James LaBrie.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on July 19, 2014, 04:20:43 PM
Maybe this is just me, but responding to someone who's bashing a singer you like by... bashing another singer seems kind of counterproductive.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Zook on July 19, 2014, 04:21:54 PM
Maybe this is just me, but responding to someone who's bashing a singer you like by... bashing another singer seems kind of counterproductive.

On a related note, isn't Protest the Hero just awful?


 :angel:

Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: MoraWintersoul on July 19, 2014, 04:24:09 PM
(https://38.media.tumblr.com/a3f206312f7546240e5b8ec35d207e20/tumblr_n8zcv7Ufwn1qbqjqvo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on July 19, 2014, 04:25:09 PM
Man, those dark themes look cool, but about 5 minutes later my eyes are bleeding. Alas.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Zantera on July 19, 2014, 04:27:46 PM
I don't necessarily mind different opinions, but in this case I felt it was phrased like "oh I feel sorry for you if you happen to like this mumbojumbo, but you're actually wrong and this is why..."

Aaaaaanyway... I'm stoked for the new album. Kayo Dot is one of my favorite bands, and even if the new album is drastically different from Hubardo, I'm still excited. The fact that they're already getting back up on the horse so fast after a double album, and the masterpiece that was Hubardo, that tells me they are confident in the songs they have written.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on July 19, 2014, 04:30:35 PM
(https://38.media.tumblr.com/a3f206312f7546240e5b8ec35d207e20/tumblr_n8zcv7Ufwn1qbqjqvo1_500.jpg)
My thoughts exactly. :lol
Title: Re: oh no not objectivity again
Post by: Kilgore Trout on July 20, 2014, 03:48:24 AM
^ Rock solid facts up in here.
For sure, "what have you been smoking?" is solid facts and a necesserary answer. I would have not answered this way if someone hadn't wrote such things. And yes, it is a fact that Toby Driver has little vocal technique. His falseto voice is weak and untrained, he relies heavily on it for high notes because he hasn't trained his naturel high voice, his range is extremely limited, he has no power except when screaming. It's an untrained voice.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Zantera on July 20, 2014, 03:51:54 AM
Just out of curiosity, do you also go by the name Systolic on 5/8 forums?
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: senecadawg2 on July 20, 2014, 07:43:53 AM
Twice.

I just don't like how structureless and freeform the whole thing is.

I totally understand where you're coming from!

The odd thing about Kayo Dot is that it's incredibly structured, only to sound incredibly unstructured   :azn:
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Zantera on July 20, 2014, 08:58:48 AM
I see the point about it being structureless and freeform, but I actually like that aspect of the band. For people who need specific hooks in recurring riffs/melodies/verses/choruses, I can see why Kayo Dot would be hard to latch onto, but personally I love that they aren't chained down to certain rules of songwriting. Anything goes in a Kayo Dot song, and that keeps me at the edge of my seat while listening to them, because I never quite know what to expect next. Once the "surprise" wears off, I think Seneca has a point about the songs having a structure, it's just hard to identify at first.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Kilgore Trout on July 20, 2014, 09:00:43 AM
Just out of curiosity, do you also go by the name Systolic on 5/8 forums?
I don't read nor participate to the 5/8 forums.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: sneakyblueberry on July 21, 2014, 09:37:42 PM
On a deep deep Kayo Dot/motW kick at the moment.  Having fun trying to decipher/look for some of the meanings hidden in the songs. 

Was interested in Hubardo, the 5th song 'Zlida Caosgi (To Water the Earth)' and its connection/reference to 'Zodelida Caosaji', two words in the 5th (get it?) key in the Enochian 'Forty Eight Keys/Calls'.  Haven't quite figured it out yet, but its fun to look at the connection between the two. 

Also, The Manifold Curiosity's three varying simultaneous spoken word parts apparently overlap on certain words: "Sift still through hours of its plasma, biding time until the clocks collapse.  Music shattered my spine on the steps outside.  I cannot move, my liquid breathing is sculpted with this binding gel."

Probably old news to everyone, but I thought it was pretty cool. 

Someone with the physical releases of Bath/LYBM should figure out what it was they hid in them.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: senecadawg2 on August 25, 2014, 09:12:34 AM
New track streaming now!!!

https://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2014/08/kayo_dot_releas_1.html (https://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2014/08/kayo_dot_releas_1.html)
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Zantera on August 25, 2014, 09:27:05 AM
I already pre-ordered the Clear/Red Marble vinyl with the CD included, but I'm not gonna listen to the song since I rather wait for the full album. I am really excited for this though. Hubardo was mindblowing and even if this album isn't on the same level, it will still probably be something special. Kayo Dot are amazing.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: senecadawg2 on August 25, 2014, 09:42:58 AM
Well I won't spoil the song for you, but based solely on the comments in the first press release for the album it sounds like this one is going to be very different from Hubardo. Style aside, I'm not worried about the quality of the music in the slightest. As you said, Kayo Dot is amazing!
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Kilgore Trout on August 25, 2014, 10:38:05 AM
I was expecting something much more different. It sounds pretty much like the most melodic/less chaotic parts of Hubardo, with a different, much cleaner production, but harmonicaly, melodicaly and formaly it's still very much Kayo Dot. The last 3 minutes sound like Zlida Caosgi without the growls and wall of sound. The 80's dark wave influences are there, but mostly in the production (flangers and synths...).
It sounds like the album will be a direct follow-up to Hubardo without the overly chaotic parts and with a different production. I'm okay with that.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: seasonsinthesky on August 25, 2014, 10:46:24 AM
Someone with the physical releases of Bath/LYBM should figure out what it was they hid in them.

this has been ongoing at UltimateMetal for a couple of years. unfortunately, the little headway gained as led nowhere. there are parts still totally nonsensical  :'(
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: adace on August 25, 2014, 02:17:40 PM
https://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2014/08/kayo_dot_releas_1.html (https://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2014/08/kayo_dot_releas_1.html)
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: sneakyblueberry on August 25, 2014, 04:26:42 PM
I wonder if its just the quality of the rip, but the way the vocals sit in the mix is really fucking weird.  I think its the combination of them being quite high up in the mix, and having little to no reverb/delay. It's like Toby's voice is invading your brain.

The song rules, prog as fuck toward the end.  Can't wait for the album!
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: senecadawg2 on September 30, 2014, 12:16:49 PM
Another new track is streaming via NPR, this time the 12 minute opening track "The Mortality of Doves"

https://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2014/09/30/352514340/vikings-choice-kayo-dot-the-mortality-of-doves (https://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2014/09/30/352514340/vikings-choice-kayo-dot-the-mortality-of-doves)

I'm going to need more listens, but for now I'm very happy and I really want to dance. Talk about a 180 from Hubardo  :o 

With that being said, I don't expect to like it as much as Hubardo (and I don't expect to ever like either as much as Choirs of the Eye). Still, I have high hopes. Only two more weeks!
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: senecadawg2 on October 07, 2014, 01:03:01 PM
The whole album is now streaming, for anyone interested:

https://noisey.vice.com/blog/kayo-dot-coffins-on-io-stream (https://noisey.vice.com/blog/kayo-dot-coffins-on-io-stream)

 :tup :tup
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Zantera on October 07, 2014, 02:46:51 PM
I'm so excited for this album.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: adace on October 09, 2014, 04:11:37 PM
Not really a huge Kayo Dot fan, but the new album is just great. Definitely my favorite of theirs.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: senecadawg2 on December 10, 2014, 03:32:22 PM
Did other people end up liking Coffins on Io? I still haven't listened to it quite as much as I would like to, but I'm going to have to fix that fast. They just announced a show in January within walking distance of my home and I bought a ticket. I'm not sure what to expect, apart from a really small crowd in a really intimate/tiny venue, but I'm very excited...
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Zantera on December 10, 2014, 03:55:25 PM
I did listen to it and I really like it. It's weird and different for them, but I like it. Maybe not as much as Hubardo, but a very nice night time album before you go to sleep.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: seasonsinthesky on December 10, 2014, 07:45:40 PM
i love Coffins on Io. it's like they took "Marathon" and parts of Hubardo ("The First Matter") and made a full record out of it.

also, a really nice pairing with Part the Second, the intensely dreamy final maudlin of the Well album.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: The King in Crimson on December 10, 2014, 08:52:10 PM
Meh, it's okay. I like a couple of songs but overall, it's just okay and the vocals are, generally, quite awful.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Zantera on April 14, 2015, 03:50:04 PM
Just saw them live, was really cool. Would have loved something from Choirs of the Eye or Dowsing Anemone in the setlist, but considering their current lineup (with nobody doing violin or strings) I can understand why. Setlist was pretty much a 45/45 Hubardo/Coffins on IO split with a new song also being played. I feel slightly bad because it was their first time here, and we were only maybe 30 people at the show. Still, I did my part and bought 3 CDs from the merchandise. Picked up Toby's solo album, the first Tartar Lamb album and the Kayo Dot/Tartar Lamb live in Krakow, bought them all from Toby directly. He seemed like a cool guy, very humble and he probably thanked me three times in a few minutes for helping out. Felt nice to support them. :) Haven't heard either of the albums before, so I'm in for a ride.

On another note, the band has been growing on me a lot lately, and I have been digging into the albums I wasn't very familiar with before. Gamma Knife is still probably my least favorite, but there are parts of it that I really enjoy (like the title track), but I feel like all albums have redeemable qualities. Blue Lambency Downward feels very straight forward and structured, and Coyote is a bit weird but very rewarding once you give it time. Stained Glass is a cool little EP. Choirs, Hubardo and Dowsing Anemone would make my top3, all of them are just pretty much perfect. Would probably put Coffins on IO at nr4, a very nice and atmospheric release.  :hat
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: senecadawg2 on April 15, 2015, 10:13:18 AM
I'm glad you got a chance to see them, I know they don't tour in Europe very often.

I saw them back in January and agree with a lot of what you said. Bought a couple things from Toby and he was indeed very humble. Though there may have been even less than 30 people at the show I went to. Setlist for me wasn't bad, but I too was hoping for something from Choirs of the Eye. They played __ on Limpid Form to close the show, which was fun, but that's always been my least favorite song on Dowsing Anemone...

I really loved the new song (assuming it's the same one you heard)- so relaxing. If I had to rank, it would probably be CotE>>>Hubardo>Dowsing Anemone>Blue Lambency/CoI>Gamma Knife>Coyote (don't really get this one). I've yet to hear Stained Glass.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Zantera on April 15, 2015, 11:29:41 AM
I was hoping to hear __On Limpid Form since it's one of my favorites of theirs (and my favorite on Dowsing), but sadly their setlist was slightly shorter (probably due to curfew) and we only got 7 songs. The new song was very laid back and relaxing, so it's probably the one you are referring to as well. It had that Coffins on IO sound with a very atmospheric sound with some really chilling saxophone stuff and Toby having a really haunting chorus.

Right now I would probably rank the albums:

Choirs of the Eye
Hubardo
Dowsing Anemone With Copper Tongue
Coffins on IO
Blue Lambency Downward
Coyote
Stained Glass
Gamma Knife

I really do enjoy all of their releases, but Gamma Knife slightly less. It feels like a such a jumbled mess at points, but the closer is beautiful.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on April 15, 2015, 01:49:57 PM
I was hoping to hear __On Limpid Form since it's one of my favorites of theirs (and my favorite on Dowsing), but sadly their setlist was slightly shorter (probably due to curfew) and we only got 7 songs. The new song was very laid back and relaxing, so it's probably the one you are referring to as well. It had that Coffins on IO sound with a very atmospheric sound with some really chilling saxophone stuff and Toby having a really haunting chorus.

Right now I would probably rank the albums:

Choirs of the Eye
Hubardo
Dowsing Anemone With Copper Tongue
Coffins on IO
Blue Lambency Downward
Coyote
Stained Glass
Gamma Knife

I really do enjoy all of their releases, but Gamma Knife slightly less. It feels like a such a jumbled mess at points, but the closer is beautiful.
My ranking would be about the same, only Coyote and Blue Lambency would be switched.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: sneakyblueberry on August 06, 2015, 05:03:53 PM
ANY FANS LIVE ON OR NEAR NYC?

maudling of the FUCKING WELL are reforming for one show on AUG 26th, and the next night Kayo Dot are playing Choirs of the Eye in its enteriety followed by Ichmundioreeeireeeirewhatever and Gamma Knife. 

FUCK!!! FUCK.  fuck living a lifetime away from the cool shit :(
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Lolzeez on August 07, 2015, 03:21:29 PM
IM IN NY FOR VACATION BUT IM LIKE AN HOUR AWAY. OH MY GOD I GOTTA FIND A WAY.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: senecadawg2 on August 07, 2015, 03:32:35 PM
An hour? It'd be a real shame if you couldn't cover that distance.

Unfortunately for me, 10 hours up and 10 hours back on a Wednesday night is impossible for me. I wish they would take this lineup and show out for a small tour sometime.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: sneakyblueberry on August 08, 2015, 01:22:14 AM
I said gamma knife but it's stained glass. It looks like it's the whole week residency. :( waaaaaaaah
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Lolzeez on August 08, 2015, 09:18:14 AM
An hour? It'd be a real shame if you couldn't cover that distance.
Going to NY for the first time in my life sooo...
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: senecadawg2 on August 08, 2015, 10:24:57 AM
Oh no I completely understand, especially in a city like New York. It just seems like such perfect timing!
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Zantera on August 08, 2015, 10:26:36 AM
I wish I was a New Yorker.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: SoundscapeMN on August 08, 2015, 03:12:30 PM
I'd love to go to the motW reunion especially but as Greg Massi has talked about those shows on his podcast (https://www.colorofair.com/) they are both not selling tickets in advance, and the venue is limited seating.

It's a bit of an investment and gamble to travel half-way across the country for, as much as I love motW.

Not to forget, for my situation, having a fiancee who I and her are traveling to Cleveland in a couple of weeks for a conference for her career pursuits (and I have a cousin I can stay with).

If motW came to Chicago and I chose not to take another trip all-year, I would probably make the trek.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: sneakyblueberry on August 26, 2015, 04:25:08 AM
https://vimeo.com/ondemand/motw2015

there is hope, the motW set is being released on vimeo for only $8, hopefully the same goes for the COTE set.  some goodness has come from this pain. 
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Enigmachine on February 07, 2016, 03:48:51 PM
Guys, new album incoming.

https://www.facebook.com/kayodot.official/posts/884335708281757
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Enigmachine on March 25, 2016, 05:45:31 PM
Double post, I know. Still, album appears to be done.

https://www.facebook.com/FlenserRecords/photos/a.223370967680715.63859.145397722144707/1171555042862298/?type=3&theater
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Zantera on March 26, 2016, 12:27:49 PM
I'm excited about this. Curious to see what kind of direction they'll go, but Kayo Dot is easily my favorite Toby Driver project. Choirs of the Eye is one of the best albums ever, and I didn't think Hubardo was that far off the mark. Enjoyed Coffins on IO quite a lot despite it being so different, and no matter which direction they go, I'll be curious.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: senecadawg2 on March 26, 2016, 12:31:10 PM
Yeah I'm excited about this as well.

I have absolutely no expectations, considering that it could be anything, but I do hope that it's more in the vein of Hubardo/CotE and not as much Coffins on Io. I listened to Coffins a lot anyways and quite enjoyed it, but I've always enjoyed their heavier stuff.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Enigmachine on March 26, 2016, 12:35:26 PM
Coffins on IO was my favourite last time I listened to KD. Nice and atmospheric. Admittedly, I haven't listened to any of their albums more than twice.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: SoundscapeMN on March 26, 2016, 06:04:48 PM
the next Kayo Dot album, like more or less all of their records, I probably will check out, but not expect all that much from. However I'm way more intrigued by the concept album Greg Massi has been working on for Baliset (which may be awhile before it comes, considering he joined a new/different band recently).

https://www.facebook.com/greg.massi/posts/10153966879647230

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I could rant about negative stuff but I would rather just mention how psyched I am about the new Concilium music we are working on. Very happy with my decision to join this band. Doesn't me I've forgotten about the amazing Baliset music I have to finish as well. Just need to get my head on straight.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Enigmachine on March 27, 2016, 05:09:19 AM
The dude sounds stressed. Never heard Baliset before.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: SoundscapeMN on March 27, 2016, 10:21:08 AM
The dude sounds stressed. Never heard Baliset before.

both their album and EP are on bandcamp:

https://retconrecordings.com/
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: senecadawg2 on April 05, 2016, 01:17:34 PM
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
April 5, 2016

KAYO DOT ANNOUNCE ‘PLASTIC HOUSE ON BASE OF SKY’
New LP out June 24 on The Flenser

"a refined, and sensual, post-new wave tour de force" - Echoes & Dust
“…a hypnotic blend of sensuous grooves, ghostly heaviness and knotty melodies ..." - Time Out New York

Kayo Dot has never made the same record twice. From chamber music to progressive black metal, from goth to jazz and avant-garde classical, Kayo Dot is undeniably experimental and utterly unclassifiable. Since its inception in 2003, the band has released seven full-length albums, including their debut Choirs of the Eye (2003), the conceptual double-album Hubardo (2013) and most recently Coffins on Io (2014, The Flenser). Kayo Dot have toured the globe numerous times over and have played the stages of Roadburn, SXSW, and many other international music festivals. In 2015, frontman Toby Driver organized and played a 12-concert retrospective at The Stone in NYC. Now, Kayo Dot is gearing up for the release of a new LP: Plastic House on Base of Sky, due out June 24th, 2016 from The Flenser.

On Plastic House on Base of Sky, Kayo Dot fully embraces Coffins on Io's electronic allusions, incorporating a variety of synthesizers (many of them vintage analog) to create another work of ambition and magnitude that fuses the explosive musical imagination of a band like Magma with the forward-thinking experimentalism of Conrad Schnitzler or Morton Subotnick. This 40 minute-long, 5-song LP goes beyond the future-noir theme of Coffins on Io and is an innovative and biomechanical work of art. Think seemingly impossible architecture, dead satellites, trashed space stations, wasted old lady heroin addicts hanging out by cheap motel pools, broken people, and a hopeless dead and polluted world transitioning into artifice and mechanism and reacting by being self-destructive, either to the point of utter obliteration or a glorious transhuman condition.

Toby Driver, the primary composer and bandleader of Kayo Dot, has been fiercely productive over the years, and while that usually refers to how many songs or albums an artist has made, with Driver the productivity is in the realm of ideas as much as music itself. In the course of a single Kayo Dot song, the amount of risks and liberties taken with form and convention usually outnumbers what other artists cover in a full album. For as much ground as they cover, it's always in the service of a carefully curated mood and this is apparent on Plastic House on Base of Sky's exploration of our mechanical post-human future-present.

The core of Kayo Dot might be that mood– one that lies at the crossroads of darkness and mystery. In film, music that accompanies mystery is often nocturnal, playing on a primal relation in our brains between the unknown and the night. It's this intersection that is the essence of Kayo Dot. Driver, who recorded Plastic House on Base of Sky in various locations from August 2014 to December 2015, again collaborates with lyricist Jason Byron. Byron, a lifelong student of the occult, gives the listener a feast of words to unpack that are as elusively satisfying as the labyrinths of sound they travel through. Whether by way of menacing guitars, ethereal woodwinds, or aggressive electronics, there's always a sense that a new passage could open, that around the next corner could be anything.

Song premieres, pre-orders and more info on Plastic House on Base of Sky coming soon from Kayo Dot and The Flenser .

Cover art by FUCO UEDA / Design by Kevin Gan Yuen.

Plastic House on Base of Sky Track Listing:

1. Amalia's Theme
2. All The Pain in All the Wide World
3. Magnetism
4. Rings of Earth
5. Brittle Urchin
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Enigmachine on April 05, 2016, 01:40:55 PM
Goddamnit, I cheched for news just today and didn't see anything.  :lol

You forgot the art though.

(https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/12439105_937371102978217_554587583451939083_n.jpg?oh=94cc437ecc870271abc156955d64f411&oe=577AA47E)

Don't like the look of it tbh.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Zantera on April 05, 2016, 02:33:50 PM
Really excited for this. The band has been in strong form lately with the last two albums being the best KD albums since the first two, so this should be good.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Elite on April 05, 2016, 03:50:56 PM
Yay!
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Enigmachine on May 09, 2016, 02:21:27 PM
"Magnetism"

https://www.tinymixtapes.com/chocolate-grinder/premiere-kayo-dot-magnetism
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Zantera on May 09, 2016, 03:00:13 PM
Pre-ordered the blue vinyl
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Sigz on June 16, 2017, 12:55:58 AM
FYI, they're FINALLY releasing a vinyl edition of Choirs of the Eye. Preorders here: https://kayodot.bigcartel.com/
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Zantera on June 16, 2017, 02:09:42 AM
So happy I'm finally gonna have it on vinyl
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: seasonsinthesky on June 16, 2017, 05:27:05 AM
Insta-buy. I've been waiting since 2003. Never expected it to happen!
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: twosuitsluke on August 03, 2021, 02:53:46 PM
New single, Void in Virgo (The Nature of Sacrifice)

https://open.spotify.com/track/0d085K3oCiJqSuscsoQhD8?si=GRwQeJ7iR06_RMmwblQb7Q&utm_source=copy-link&dl_branch=1 (https://open.spotify.com/track/0d085K3oCiJqSuscsoQhD8?si=GRwQeJ7iR06_RMmwblQb7Q&utm_source=copy-link&dl_branch=1)

Yea it's pretty good on first listen.
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: SoundscapeMN on August 03, 2021, 08:25:38 PM
I actually made a video about motW recently, especially after stumbling on this video:

"maudlin of the Well - "Bath / LYBM" puzzle - SOLVED?!?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEg6SX4sDuE
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: twosuitsluke on August 03, 2021, 10:36:11 PM
I actually made a video about motW recently, especially after stumbling on this video:

"maudlin of the Well - "Bath / LYBM" puzzle - SOLVED?!?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEg6SX4sDuE

That was awesome. I had no idea there was any puzzle to be solved with those two albums. I have only listened to two Kayo Dot albums, Blasphemy and Hubardo. They didn't really do a great deal for me if I'm honest, and I've not delved any further. However, I do LOVE Bath/Leaving Your Body Map. These two albums are something else.

Well, if nothing else this has inspired me to listen back through those albums as well as starting at the beginning with Kayo Dot  :metal
Title: Re: Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well/Toby Driver appreciation (merged)
Post by: Zantera on August 04, 2021, 02:59:38 AM
Maudlin of the Well is awesome but I always got more out of Kayo Dot. Perhaps harder to get into, but more rewarding once you did. Choirs of the Eye remains one of my all time favorite albums to this day.