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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: LeeHarveyKennedy on August 18, 2010, 01:04:51 PM
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So the other day, I got a copy of the Jay-Z/Linkin Park mashup CD, Collision Course. I let it play one night as I drove home from a friend's house, and when the mashup with Faint came on, and it got to the part with the main riff of the song blasting, I thought to myself "Man, I used to love Linkin Park, why did I ever sell their CDs?"
Then the chorus hit, and I remembered "Oh yeah. The lyrics. That's right."
It got me thinking that I genuinely enjoy LP's music, but their lyrics make me cringe and almost ruin the songs for me. They got so close to something I could enjoy, but it's that one aspect that will never allow me to count myself as a fan of them again.
In this thread, we discuss other bands that are just so close to being something we could really enjoy, and the one thing that will forever turn us off from them.
And, go.
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inb4opethgrowls
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I expect a lot of "Pain of Salvation"s :-[
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A near miss is a hit, ya know.
Two planes collide.
*exploding sound*
"Look, they nearly missed."
"Yes..but not quite!"
/George Carlin
/end of tangent
:p
Oh, and to answer the question:
Coheed and Cambria (could not get past the vocals)
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I expect a lot of "Pain of Salvation"s :-[
We're talking 'near-miss' and not 'as far away as possible-miss'. ;)
To answer the topic, i'm not quite sure... normally 1 thing isn't enough to turn me off, in the beginning i didn't give Rush a proper chance because of the vocals, but i learned to like them, and that's normally the case with everything i'm not "wow" about in the first place.
Normally things come around for me, and things i didn't like at first grow, and i may love them after a while. :P
So bands i don't enjoy normally have several things not clicking with me, and that doesn't really make them a 'near-miss'.
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Coheed and Cambria never clicked for me either, but its more of the lyrics that make me go WTF. Odd thing is, I like concept pieces - I like Rhapsody of Fire and their continuing story from album to album. C&C just don't.
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Coheed. For the lyrics, not the music. My first thought when listening to Coheed is "Wtf, is that supposed to be poetic or something?"
Muse is another one. Like Queen, Muse are known for playing a couple of different styles. From bombastic, to pop, to dancy, etc. The problem I have with Muse (that I don't have with Queen) is that I really only like one or two of the styles Muse frequently play.
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Red Hot Chili Peppers
I love the instrumental parts and then Anthony Kiedis starts to sing.
:|
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Opeth - If only they didn't sound so samey.
PT - See above.
Pain of Salvation - Some of the lyrics threw me off from BE, but I didn't give them much of a chance, either.
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PT - If only they didn't sound so samey.
wat
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PT - If only they didn't sound so samey.
wat
I don't know, I find that it just all sounds the same, though I know there is variety. granted, I haven't listened to every album, either, but a few to gauge a half-informed opinion.
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I disagree with you but respect your opinion, especially with regards to their metal stuff.
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Symphony X
TOO MUCH SHREDDING AAARGH
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Opeth
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Rob Zombie. I'd probably like him if his music wasn't so focused on Horror.
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PT - If only they didn't sound so samey.
wat
I don't know, I find that it just all sounds the same, though I know there is variety. granted, I haven't listened to every album, either, but a few to gauge a half-informed opinion.
Kinda how I feel, too. I like them for what they are, but their music doesn't seem to be nearly as diverse as they get credit for. Same goes for Opeth, in my opinion. Though I wouldn't classify neither as "near miss" bands from my perspective.
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Most death metal bands. I have REALLY specific tastes when it comes to growls that I like. Its kinda weird.
Coheed and Cambria never clicked for me either, but its more of the lyrics that make me go WTF. Odd thing is, I like concept pieces - I like Rhapsody of Fire and their continuing story from album to album. C&C just don't.
I don't understand. C&C don't what? That's nowhere near a complete thought to helps me understand your failure. :biggrin:
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Dredg. I dig 'em a bit musically, but the vocals have this sort of angsty Californian thing going on, makes me feel uncomfortable listening to it. Not that there's anything wrong with the Californian accent, but a lot of bands from around there have these horrible pop-punky vocalists. Dredg's is among the most irritating.
Also! Fairly minor one, but Tim Donahue's "Madmen & Sinners" is transformed from a fairly nifty sideproject with some damn catchy songs, into a nigh-on unlistenable sideproject with some damn catchy songs by its hideously muddy production.
More controversially... Spock's Beard are one of those bands that I kind of like, and I can really dig bits of, but then they go and throw in something cringey. Songs like The Ballet of the Impact, June, Strange World, NWC, At the End of the Day, The Great Nothing are all brilliant, but then you listen to, say, the intro to In the Mouth of Madness (*bloop-bloop-bloop-bloop bleep!* "hey there Mr. Fancypants!") and it's all a bit jarring. I do get their sense of humour, to an extent, but I don't always find it funny. Even calling the band Spock's Beard, it's less "hahahaha!" funny and more "...no, really, try again."
They're like watching your dad dance at a wedding. Equal parts brilliant and embarrassing, and although there IS a sort of wonderful joie de vivre to the whole sordid display that you've gotta respect, and yet if anyone asks you'll still insist you've never met him before in your life EVER and if you think otherwise you're lying to be popular which probably means you have had a rubbish upbringing, and it's probably your dad so ha!
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Neal Morse. The music itself is good but the overly religious lyrics turn me off.
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Ah, yeah, I've tried to listen to Neal a few times... his voice doesn't do much for me, and the lyrics don't help either.
That goes for most bands he sings in too.
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Lamb Of God because of the vocals
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The Decemberists. Colin Meloy's voice ... fuck. What a great band I just can't fully appreciate.
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If a near-miss is a band that scrapes the bottom of my collection, i.e. they've been on the verge of me deleting their stuff at times and just made it out alive:
Muse
Porcupine Tree
Emperor - actually were deleted, but I kept the CD and rediscovered it years later
Dare I say it, at one point, The John Butler Trio
Mastodon
Pineapple Thief
most of Pink Floyd's material
Slayer
Slipknot
I may go back and give reasons later.
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Mastodon
most of Pink Floyd's material
Slayer
Uh, what?
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Reading through this thread...Apparently vocals are really important for the majority of people here...or just a big turn-off when they're not in the tastes of the listener.
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Mastodon are only good for the music. Lyrics and vocals are both abysmal.
A lot of Slayer borders on sounding like parody metal.
I've warmed to some of Pink Floyd's stuff over a long time, but to me, they're a band whose influence through experimentation is far more impressive than the songwriting itself, in most cases.
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Mastodon are only good for the music. Lyrics and vocals are both abysmal.
A lot of Slayer borders on sounding like parody metal.
I've warmed to some of Pink Floyd's stuff over a long time, but to me, they're a band whose influence through experimentation is far more impressive than the songwriting itself, in most cases.
I guess all of those are valid opinions... but Slayer... parody metal?
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I've warmed to some of Pink Floyd's stuff over a long time, but to me, they're a band whose influence through experimentation is far more impressive than the songwriting itself, in most cases.
I disagree. It's the quality of the songs that makes me love this band so much. It never seems dated to me and they have absolutely nothing to envy to the great majority of moderns bands today IMO.
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Porcupine Tree here. A singer that has only two singing modes (bored and whiny), little staying power of the music (it gets old pretty quickly) and inconsistent albums don't really make me adore them as much as some people here do.
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I guess all of those are valid opinions... but Slayer... parody metal?
I guess it's because there's never a hint of humour or lightheartedness in their music, combined with a lot of the actual lyrical content, which is insanely over the top. If I'm not in the mood for their stuff, it seems like a joke that their fans simply never got.
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Dare I say it: Rush. I can see that people enjoy the music, and I kind of do too (the little I've heard), but when Geddy opens his mouth my ears start to bleed.
And yes I am very picky when it comes to vocals.
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Coheed and Cambria (can't get into the vocals)
Rush (same)
Mastodon (same, and I don't like the lyrics either)
Agalloch (everyone's talking about how good they are, but I just don't see what's so good about them)
Riverside (vocals)
Seventh Wonder (vocals are great, for a change, but the lyrics are extremely meh. Also, sometimes they show their influences a little too much for my taste)
Redemption (just another standard prog metal band. Nothing I haven't heard a hundred times before.)
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Porcupine Tree here. A singer that has only two singing modes (bored and whiny), little staying power of the music (it gets old pretty quickly) and inconsistent albums don't really make me adore them as much as some people here do.
You are my new hero.
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I really like some of Porcupine Tree's stuff, but those are my reasons regarding why I don't find Wilson and his work as godly as everyone else here seems to.
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Same here. They're a band I like quite a bit, actually, but they just don't create music that has good staying power for me.
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I guess all of those are valid opinions... but Slayer... parody metal?
I guess it's because there's never a hint of humour or lightheartedness in their music, combined with a lot of the actual lyrical content, which is insanely over the top. If I'm not in the mood for their stuff, it seems like a joke that their fans simply never got.
This makes no sense to me. Slayer were amazing...Dave Lombardo an innovator in that genre behind the kit. Seasons In The Abyss is a pretty dern good musical album that brought them over the hump of general Thrash. I believe them to be the pioneers of some melodic-*-metal genres.
Edit - Near miss for me:
Pain Of Salvation - I tried, I can't. I really tried.
Porcupine Tree - More of a complete miss than a near miss. Take The Cure, mix in some Metallica (post ...AJFA with all their crap from Load or Saint Danger or whatever the hell it's all called), a hint of Radiohead (minus any of the talent) and some U2. They sound like an amalgam of all the really bad parts of mediocre bands.
Coheed & Cambria - I get it, you like comic books...you're geeks. But your music is bad.
Judas Priest - I love music from that time period, but they just can't get out from behind Iron Maiden's shadow.
Radiohead - Maybe if they stopped trying so hard to be different, and just were different I'd like them. But they remind of emo kids, being different just for the sake of being different, with no substance behind it.
Meshuggah -This one kills me, because they are so fucking talented and Haake does things behind a drum kit that should be illegal...but three songs into an album and I can't tell the difference anymore.
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Lots of fail there.
And I wouldn't call Slayer parody metal. They're just bad. Really bad.
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Except emo kids aren't really being different at all, they're following a style plenty of people already follow. Radiohead do things I've never heard from any other band.
The Decemberists. Colin Meloy's voice ... fuck. What a great band I just can't fully appreciate.
Yeah, it takes a while. Good thing "The Island" is so awesome.
I'll also put Neal Morse, Transatlantic, and Beardfish (and bands like them) on my list. I love Duel with the Devil/Stranger in Your Soul, but there's too much old prog in there, like everything Genesis/ELP/Yes did, but it only sounds modern because of production. I'm sure Yes themselves could come out with a more relevant, modern album now if they wanted to.
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Porcupine Tree - More of a complete miss than a near miss. Take The Cure, mix in some Metallica (post ...AJFA with all their crap from Load or Saint Danger or whatever the hell it's all called), a hint of Radiohead (minus any of the talent) and some U2. They sound like an amalgam of all the really bad parts of mediocre bands.
???
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Meshuggah -This one kills me, because they are so fucking talented and Haake does things behind a drum kit that should be illegal...but three songs into an album and I can't tell the difference anymore.
Was it Catch Thirtythree? hehe
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Lots of fail there.
And I wouldn't call Slayer parody metal. They're just bad. Really bad.
Well, I tend to believe other musicians, especially hugely successful bands from all sorts of different genres, when they say that Lombardo and Hanneman were huge influences on their careers. Hanneman may be a little lacking in the solo department, but he's invented so many riffs that have been used and ripped off constantly.
I'm pretty sure one can't listen to a *metal album without hearing Hanneman getting ripped off.
I'm also pretty sure that Lombardo has some of the fastest, most intricate double bass rhythms around.
So if guys from Caliban, Avenged Sevenfold, Shadow's Fall, Morbid Angel say they're good I'd tend to say they know what they're talking about.
I'd also trust Portnoy's musical judement as well. If he lists 4 Slayer albums as his favorite albums of all time.
Opinions and all that...however there's a little more credibility in my reasons here than fail.
Granted, I didn't have much to go on with "They're bad" to counter your side of it.
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Mastodon are only good for the music. Lyrics and vocals are both abysmal.
This for sure.
Also Coheed and Cambria. They're not bad, and Claudio's voice is just fine for me, but I can only take so much of the pseudo-punk-indie-ness of their music.
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lso pretty sure that Lombardo has some of the fastest, most intricate double bass rhythms around.
Lombardo is fast but there are death metal drummers out there nowadays that are even faster.
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And I wouldn't call Slayer parody metal.
That's funny, cos I haven't called them parody metal either.
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Also Coheed and Cambria. They're not bad, and Claudio's voice is just fine for me, but I can only take so much of the pseudo-punk-indie-ness of their music.
This I can understand. Songs like "Devil in Jersey City" and "Blood Red Summer" aren't my favorite Coheed songs, for example. The rest of you noobs just need to learn to love Claudio's voice.
Another one: A7X. Sounds cool, then the guy sings in either this Hetfield-ripoff voice, or screams, or whines and they go into an emo chorus.
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I am going to get killed on here for this, but...
NICKELBACK
The group's first two albums are chock full of great riffs, some aggression, catchy choruses, and good lyrics.
But after Silver Side Up (which had the big hit you all know, "How You Remind Me,"), the band decided (or Chad Kroeger) to write all these raunchy, "cock rock" lyrics and quite frankly, I just stopped caring. It was ridiculous. Just not interested.
Same with...
HALESTORM
Now THERE is a new band whose music WAILS, and whose singer is AWESOME. But honestly, I really don't care for the cock rock lyrics, regardless of how great the singer is or the music is.
So while I still follow Halestorm a little bit (looking forward to seeing them next month), it just gets damn frustrating. I'm a fan of accessible hard rock. But not if the lyrics continually talk about f*cking some woman or "pants around my feet." I want some intelligence in what I listen to.
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I want some intelligence in what I listen to.
Check out mathcore stuff then! There's some intelligence riffage along with the attitude of modern teen-fist!
:neverusethis:
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Most death metal bands. I have REALLY specific tastes when it comes to growls that I like. Its kinda weird.
Coheed and Cambria never clicked for me either, but its more of the lyrics that make me go WTF. Odd thing is, I like concept pieces - I like Rhapsody of Fire and their continuing story from album to album. C&C just don't.
I don't understand. C&C don't what? That's nowhere near a complete thought to helps me understand your failure. :biggrin:
C&C just don't click for me. It's not like I've heard a handful of songs either, I've listened to the turbine one and Good Apollo whatever, as well as anything Nick has played on WPAPU. Songs about feathers on the back porch are just :mehlin
Neal Morse. The music itself is good but the overly religious lyrics turn me off.
This. I love his work wit SB and Transatlantic, but I'm not going to listen to something I know I don't agree with.
Mastodon are only good for the music. Lyrics and vocals are both abysmal.
You must be a hammer Flufy, because you hit this one on the head.
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Most death metal bands. I have REALLY specific tastes when it comes to growls that I like. Its kinda weird.
Coheed and Cambria never clicked for me either, but its more of the lyrics that make me go WTF. Odd thing is, I like concept pieces - I like Rhapsody of Fire and their continuing story from album to album. C&C just don't.
I don't understand. C&C don't what? That's nowhere near a complete thought to helps me understand your failure. :biggrin:
C&C just don't click for me. It's not like I've heard a handful of songs either, I've listened to the turbine one and Good Apollo whatever, as well as anything Nick has played on WPAPU. Songs about feathers on the back porch are just :mehlin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-OQf0mG1As
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Radiohead - Maybe if they stopped trying so hard to be different, and just were different I'd like them. But they remind of emo kids, being different just for the sake of being different, with no substance behind it.
Why do you hate music?
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Porcupine Tree - More of a complete miss than a near miss. Take The Cure, mix in some Metallica (post ...AJFA with all their crap from Load or Saint Danger or whatever the hell it's all called), a hint of Radiohead (minus any of the talent) and some U2. They sound like an amalgam of all the really bad parts of mediocre bands.
Yes, because Porcupine Tree clearly has no talent. :lol
Judas Priest - I love music from that time period, but they just can't get out from behind Iron Maiden's shadow.
You do know that Priest was around long before Maiden was, right?
Radiohead[/b] - Maybe if they stopped trying so hard to be different, and just were different I'd like them. But they remind of emo kids, being different just for the sake of being different, with no substance behind it.
How do you know they are trying too hard to be different?
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Radiohead are a near miss for me, definitely. I like actual songwriting better than the focus on experimentation evident on most of their albums, especially since that experimentation has been fully explored by other bands already.
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Coheed - the poppiness is what turns me off. I also like concepts but it's just too poppy for me. I give them the respect they deserve cause the music is good.
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Haken - Streams and Celestial Elixir are great songs (after I edited them for content) but the completely random circus music and death growls turn me off. Thankfully the growls were only in two songs, but the first song I couldn't edit them out without it sounding doctored. Random ragtime from Rudess is fine every blue moon but Haken do the circus stuff too much. Plus, what does the circus have to do with mermaids? I like my version of Streams and CE loads better and that's all I need from Haken at this point in time.
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Radiohead are a near miss for me, definitely. I like actual songwriting better than the focus on experimentation evident on most of their albums, especially since that experimentation has been fully explored by other bands already.
Who else brought electronica into the mainstream before 'Kid A'? I'm confused.
The focus in Radiohead has never been about experimentation, that's why they write four minute songs instead of things that go on for ten minutes
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Who else brought electronica into the mainstream before 'Kid A'? I'm confused.
Among others, U2. U2 was the biggest band in the world in the early/mid 90s and brought electronica into their music out of nowhere. Really, Radiohead did it the same way U2 did:
-Bits of it on album that was considered a bit of a departure (OK Computer and Achtung Baby)
-Then brought the house with it (Kid A and Zooropa)
Many would argue that Radiohead did electronica better than U2 did, but that still doesn't take away from the fact that U2 did it before Radiohead did. And they were not the first. That is just one example. And I am a huge Radiohead fan, so there is no bias on my part. :)
The focus in Radiohead has never been about experimentation, that's why they write four minute songs instead of things that go on for ten minutes
Huh? Experimentation does not automatically equal longer song length. ???
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Radiohead are a near miss for me, definitely. I like actual songwriting better than the focus on experimentation evident on most of their albums, especially since that experimentation has been fully explored by other bands already.
Who else brought electronica into the mainstream before 'Kid A'? I'm confused.
The focus in Radiohead has never been about experimentation, that's why they write four minute songs instead of things that go on for ten minutes
What Kev said. Plus, bands like Sigur Ros were already well ahead of them when they started incorporating those elements.
And I don't care how long the song is. There's nothing about "Treefingers" or "Revolving Doors" that makes me think, "damn, there's some good songwriting."
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Coheed and Cambria (could not get past the vocals)
God this.
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I guess all of those are valid opinions... but Slayer... parody metal?
I guess it's because there's never a hint of humour or lightheartedness in their music, combined with a lot of the actual lyrical content, which is insanely over the top. If I'm not in the mood for their stuff, it seems like a joke that their fans simply never got.
This makes no sense to me. Slayer were amazing...Dave Lombardo an innovator in that genre behind the kit. Seasons In The Abyss is a pretty dern good musical album that brought them over the hump of general Thrash. I believe them to be the pioneers of some melodic-*-metal genres.
Edit - Near miss for me:
Porcupine Tree - More of a complete miss than a near miss. Take The Cure, mix in some Metallica (post ...AJFA with all their crap from Load or Saint Danger or whatever the hell it's all called), a hint of Radiohead (minus any of the talent) and some U2. They sound like an amalgam of all the really bad parts of mediocre bands.
Judas Priest - I love music from that time period, but they just can't get out from behind Iron Maiden's shadow.
Radiohead - Maybe if they stopped trying so hard to be different, and just were different I'd like them. But they remind of emo kids, being different just for the sake of being different, with no substance behind it.
SO MUCH FAIL
First of all PT= Metallica? U2? if anything they sound like Pink Floyd so lolno.
Judas Priest was on the metal scene way before Maiden.
and Radiohead yep agreed
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Most death metal bands. I have REALLY specific tastes when it comes to growls that I like. Its kinda weird.
Coheed and Cambria never clicked for me either, but its more of the lyrics that make me go WTF. Odd thing is, I like concept pieces - I like Rhapsody of Fire and their continuing story from album to album. C&C just don't.
I don't understand. C&C don't what? That's nowhere near a complete thought to helps me understand your failure. :biggrin:
C&C just don't click for me. It's not like I've heard a handful of songs either, I've listened to the turbine one and Good Apollo whatever, as well as anything Nick has played on WPAPU. Songs about feathers on the back porch are just :mehlin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-OQf0mG1As
With all the people complaining about how poppy Coheed is in this thread, you link From Fear Through the Eyes of Madness because...
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Seriously, WTF :lol you're better off linking The Suffering
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Most death metal bands. I have REALLY specific tastes when it comes to growls that I like. Its kinda weird.
Coheed and Cambria never clicked for me either, but its more of the lyrics that make me go WTF. Odd thing is, I like concept pieces - I like Rhapsody of Fire and their continuing story from album to album. C&C just don't.
I don't understand. C&C don't what? That's nowhere near a complete thought to helps me understand your failure. :biggrin:
C&C just don't click for me. It's not like I've heard a handful of songs either, I've listened to the turbine one and Good Apollo whatever, as well as anything Nick has played on WPAPU. Songs about feathers on the back porch are just :mehlin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-OQf0mG1As
With all the people complaining about how poppy Coheed is in this thread, you link From Fear Through the Eyes of Madness because...
...it's one of there best songs.
Whatever.
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Yeah it is, but it's not winning any new fans who are unwilling to get over the poppiness and the voice.
All you guys really need to know about Coheed is don't judge them based on what Nick plays on WPAPU, his opinion about Coheed is fail.
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Yeah it is, but it's not winning any new fans who are unwilling to get over the poppiness and the voice.
All you guys really need to know about Coheed is don't judge them based on what Nick plays on WPAPU, his opinion about Coheed is fail.
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To Kev/PC
1. U2 didn't start writing electronica songs in the 90s, they started adding dance music elements into their songs, that's assuming we're looking at electronic music as being more diverse than just one big 'electronica' tag. I think that's pretty different to writing songs like 'Kid A' and 'Idioteque'. With regards to others, I can't think of any who made the same near total turn in direction that Radiohead did whilst at their peak.
2. Experimentation doesn't necessarily equal longer song lengths but the point being made was that they were too focused on experimentation and not on songwriting when in reality if all they were focused on was experimentation then they wouldn't still have the focus on writing songs of a standard length, which is something most experimental bands certainly DO NOT have.
3. Sigur Ros were hardly a mainstream band at the turn of the century, in fact they're not really in the mainstream now.
Appreciate your points but I stick to mine. ;)
At the end of the day if you don't think Radiohead are absolutely brilliant you're just wrong anyway.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-OQf0mG1As
With all the people complaining about how poppy Coheed is in this thread, you link From Fear Through the Eyes of Madness because...
...it's one of there best songs.
Whatever.
No...fuck no. I couldn't get past the first minute of that song.
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Seriously, posting that song is pretty much akin to saying "Oh, you don't like Pain of Salvation because they're pretentious and boring? HERE, LISTEN TO BE, THAT'LL CHANGE YOUR MIND!" :lol
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You don't like prog because of the lyrics?
Why not try this...it's called 'The Count of Tuscany' by Dream Theater
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:lol
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To Kev/PC
1. U2 didn't start writing electronica songs in the 90s, they started adding dance music elements into their songs, that's assuming we're looking at electronic music as being more diverse than just one big 'electronica' tag. I think that's pretty different to writing songs like 'Kid A' and 'Idioteque'.
Eh, this sounds like semantics to me. "Daddy's Gonna Pay For Your Crashed Car" and "Mofo" are just as much electronica as songs like "Kid A" and "Idioteque" are. Either way, the trajectory of both bands was extremely similar, and U2 did it before Radiohead did. That doesn't make what Radiohead did any less impressive. Plus, when you consider that U2 was much bigger when they did it than Radiohead has ever really been, it makes what they did a lot more ballsy and daring. When you are the biggest band in the world, which U2 was at the time, and you decide to radically change your sound out of nowhere, that takes major balls.
2. Experimentation doesn't necessarily equal longer song lengths but the point being made was that they were too focused on experimentation and not on songwriting when in reality if all they were focused on was experimentation then they wouldn't still have the focus on writing songs of a standard length, which is something most experimental bands certainly DO NOT have.
Okay, but Radiohead do, and they are an experimental band, so I am not sure what your point here is. ???
At the end of the day if you don't think Radiohead are absolutely brilliant you're just wrong anyway.
:tup :tup
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Symphony X
Kill Switch Engaged
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Stratovarius - Got too cheesy for me to handle, and I generally like Cheese (Sonata Arctica, Rhapsody of Fire, and Cradle of Filth to name a few)
cKy - it all sounded the same after "96 Quite Bitter Things"
After Forever - Heard a few songs, then they lost their flair. Then I heard the same guitarist from their first album is now in Epica. And that was how I fell in love with Epica.
Gwar - enough said
there's probably more, so I'll edit later.
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Yeah, not sure why FFTTEOM was posted. Great song, but those first few minutes aren't gonna win anyone over.
Try this, "In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxowWo_XV_c
Super-prog, aka "Fuel for the Feeding End"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYsw-G9kEC8
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Between the Buried and Me. I have Colors and The Great Misdirect (I prefer the latter), and I love some of it: but some of it just gets boring. I find TGM to be more interesting because they're actually seperate songs, while Colors is just one long piece.
And yes, I like Swim to the Moon. Alot.
Also, Radiohead, but to a much lesser extent. I mean, they're obviously a great band, but I can't listen to one of their albums without being bored near the end. For example, If I'm listening to OK Computer, I'll switch it off after No Suprises, because the last two tracks aren't anything special in my eyes.
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I NEVER pay attention to the lyrics, so yeah.
Rush: I used to often listen to 2112 and some songs from Moving Pictures, but that was about it. I just couldn't get further. Kinda sounded all the same to me.
Pink Floyd: Similar reason. The only things I enjoy from them are Dark Side and some Wish You Were and Animals. But aside from a few selected songs, I can't get into them.
Megadeth: Dave's voice kills my ears. But I love their guitar works.
Tool: I don't know if I missed this band yet. I love The Grudge, but I couldn't go further. Maybe I'll give them a shot from time to time.
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Speaking of Tool, I feel like I should be way more into them than I am. They combine the musical intricacies of Dream Theater with the esoteric, need-to-be-studied lyrics of Marilyn Manson, so you'd think that taking those two aspects of two of my favorite bands would create an instant orgasm. Outside of Prison Sex and about half of Lateralus, I just can't get into them.
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Try 10,000 Days. Vicarious is one of their best songs.
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Also, Radiohead, but to a much lesser extent. I mean, they're obviously a great band, but I can't listen to one of their albums without being bored near the end. For example, If I'm listening to OK Computer, I'll switch it off after No Suprises, because the last two tracks aren't anything special in my eyes.
The last 2 tracks are the best 2 tracks on the fricking record!
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Try 10,000 Days. Vicarious is one of their best songs.
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Try 10,000 Days. Vicarious is one of their best songs.
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Already have. The case was tits, though.
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Try 10,000 Days. Vicarious is one of their best songs.
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Already have. The case was tits, though.
Listen to Ænima than
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Tool: I should probably like this band, but I find the music just too... bleak and depressing to listen to. I used to work with a guy that would play Tool all the time at work and all the music just flowed together into one oppressive whole, nothing really stood out to me. I do like a few of their songs (Vicarious, Third Eye, a few others), but I just can't get into their music.
Radiohead: Thom York has an irritating voice.
Judas Priest: I appreciate their role in the formation of heavy metal, but compared to contemporaries like Black Sabbath and Maiden, I just find them to be lacking in something.
Spock's Beard: I enjoy X, their self-titled, and The Light, but they're too cheesy for me to appreciate their entire catalog.
Protest the Hero: Excellent musicmanship, but every song sounds like 3,000 ideas squashed together into a cacophony of music with no melody. Some may enjoy this, I find it tiring and, after a while, boring.
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Tool: I should probably like this band, but I find the music just too... bleak and depressing to listen to. I used to work with a guy that would play Tool all the time at work and all the music just flowed together into one oppressive whole, nothing really stood out to me. I do like a few of their songs (Vicarious, Third Eye, a few others), but I just can't get into their music.
Judas Priest: I appreciate their role in the formation of heavy metal, but compared to contemporaries like Black Sabbath and Maiden, I just find them to be lacking in something.
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PT - If only they didn't sound so samey.
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What is with all the judas priest and Iron Maiden fail in this thread...
Judas came before Iron Maiden.
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So? The peak of their popularity came at roughly the same time...
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And they're both uninteresting bands anyway.
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And they're both uninteresting bands anyway.
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And they're both uninteresting bands anyway.
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:(
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Iron Maiden are actually probably one of the nearest misses I've experienced. I like Brave New World, and a handful of other songs, maybe ten, but that's about it.
I got a 2CD Judas Priest best of years ago. The only song I kept was Victim of Changes.
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The whole Maiden vs. Priest thing is really weird. Iron Maiden are obviously the more popular now, and have a more consistent discography overall, but people forget how much longer Priest were doing metal before Maiden even came on the scene. For some reason, people act like Maiden are the creators and kings of Metal.
Actually, I think the only reason Maiden are so popular now is because 1.) Ozzy has sold out too many times for people to care and 2.) Maiden are still very much a "modern band," despite who antiquated they appear. Iron Maiden have released 8 albums since the 90s. Priest have released what, like 5?
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What is with all the judas priest and Iron Maiden fail in this thread...
Judas came before Iron Maiden.
I don't think anyone is saying that they didn't.