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Title: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: PixelDream on August 11, 2010, 03:40:02 PM
I just got totally into them and they're awesome. They've always been my father's favorite band, but somehow I just couldn't get addicted to it. Now, after having listened to so many contemporary rock bands, hearing this: This is something truly unique, still.

I started out with Led Zeppelin IV, because I thought it was the easiest to get into. It worked, and now I'm starting with Zeppelin I, working my way up. Their DVD release simply called 'DVD' is excellent as well.

So, tell us how you got into Zeppelin, what you like about them/got into them/favorite songs/album etc. Or don't like about them, as long as you speak with respect!  :hat

p.s. I'm now at track #4: Dazed and Confused. I'm mildly familiar with it, but I never truly listened to it. This is AMAZING!
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jakartabassplayer on August 11, 2010, 03:44:55 PM
Long live the Zep
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: PixelDream on August 11, 2010, 03:49:33 PM
Long live the Zep

Right on! The movie 'It Might Get Loud' inspired me to check them out again, I was very intrigued by Jimmy Page's love for music in the documentary.

A while back I just couldn't understand why Stairway's guitar solo was considered (one of) the best guitar solo(s) of all time. I thought the wild, flashy solos certain prog-metal bands were playing were so much better. Now I understand, the solo is the ultimate conclusion of the song, it tells and finishes the story. Aside from that, the feel is amazing.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jakartabassplayer on August 11, 2010, 04:01:36 PM
true
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: The Letter M on August 11, 2010, 04:09:44 PM
Great band with great music, but my favorite album, BY FAR, has to be Houses Of The Holy.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Gadough on August 11, 2010, 04:28:20 PM
Fond memories of hearing Black Dog and Stairway on the radio when I was in the car with my Dad as a little kid. :heart
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: sirbradford117 on August 11, 2010, 04:32:56 PM
Led Zeppelin is the only band I've ever encountered where I can honestly say they have NO *bad* songs.  Some are a little less good than others, but none are bad.  And ABSOLUTELY no bad albums (except the posthumous "Coda," which I don't include as a part of their canon).
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Ben_Jamin on August 11, 2010, 04:39:27 PM
Now you know why Stairway is one of the greatest songs ever written on that subject matter.

I bought Houses of the Holy first then Led I, Presence. All trying to find one song or two i've heard but didn't know the name's. They ended up being A Fool In The Rain (didn't know this was a led zeppelin song as i heard it when i was younger and just recently heard it at a baseball game with my uncle who told me the name), Goin to California. I'm happy I got those albums, great songs on all of them So far Houses of the Holy is my favorite.

I forgot I also bought Led II. It's alright
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Birch Boy on August 11, 2010, 05:26:56 PM
I was gonna start this thread last week but I forgot :facepalm:

Anyway, one of my favorite bands.

Also, Jason Bonham's Led Zeppelin Experience: https://www.jblze.com/

North American dates to be announced on Monday :metal
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: zxlkho on August 11, 2010, 05:47:26 PM
I've said this on here before: "Ramble On" is the best them.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: axeman90210 on August 11, 2010, 05:57:04 PM
I always love me some Zeppelin II... long live the brown bomber
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Birch Boy on August 11, 2010, 06:24:26 PM
I've said this on here before: "Ramble On" is the best them.
One of my favorites
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: The King in Crimson on August 11, 2010, 06:27:22 PM
I started out with Led Zeppelin IV, because I thought it was the easiest to get into. It worked, and now I'm starting with Zeppelin I, working my way up.
Wait till you get to Houses of the Holy and Physical Graffiti. Those two, along with IV, are prolly LZ at their best, IMO of course.

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So, tell us how you got into Zeppelin, what you like about them/got into them/favorite songs/album etc. Or don't like about them, as long as you speak with respect!  :hat
Stairway, man, Stairway. I got LZIV for Christmas one year, primarily for Stairway and "Battle of Evermore." I quickly learned that every song on the album was awesome. I played the hell outta that CD. In fact, it was one of my first albums ever and when I bought albums by other artists, I was confused when only one or two songs were worthwhile on em. I was used to LZIV's continuous barrage of quality songs.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: LudwigVan on August 11, 2010, 06:29:06 PM
Ahh... Led Zeppelin.  How hum-drum and shocking is it for a 47-year old male who went to HS in the 70s to proclaim that Led Zep is his all-time favorite band?   Ummm... very!  But I'm gonna say it anyway:  Led Zeppelin are my all-time favorite band.  It wasn't always this way, as this is one band that has managed to come full-circle on me.  

It started when I was about 12-13 yrs old and I first heard Whole Lotta Love being played as a single on the radio.  Everything about it absolutely blew me away, from that weird cough at the beginning into the explosive Page riff that immediately gets doubled with JPJ's bass.  Then the unbridled Plant vocal/lyric that's filled with sexual innuendo up the kazoo, and the weirdly orgasmic instrumental break that resolves itself into a classic Page solo.... I was hooked BIG TIME.   So was the rest of the world.  

And that was part of the problem with Zeppelin for me after a few years of hoarding up all their albums..... they got TOO big.   They were EVERYWHERE overexposed with their music being played to death on hit radio, and I got caught up in the media backlash that called them out for being self-indulgent piggish superstars (which they were).  So there was a time in my college years when I didn't go near Zeppelin, opting in favor of more trendy 80s music like The Clash, Iron Maiden, Priest, Queensryche, Metallica, The Grateful Dead etc.    

With the perspective of time, however, and after listening to tons of bands over the years, I've come to recognize that their music has never really been truly surpassed.   Led Zeppelin manages to satisfy my craving for so much that I ask for in my music.  

- I love hard rock, and there is no rhythm section that has ever hit me quite as hard as Jones/Bonham.  Not one.  Back in the day, most bands revolved around 1, maybe 2 players, usually the vocalist or lead guitarist.  Zep was one of the 1st groups (Cream the other) that showed what could done when a band consisted of 4 "lead" instrumentalists.    

- I love prog rock, and Zeppelin, while not truly 'prog', is one of the only hard rock bands to "progress" from album to album.  What band was able to shift from heavy blues to celtic folk to Middle-eastern modes so seamlessly, and all within the span of one album?  Banjo anyone?  Mandolin Mellotron Theremin?  Page was not afraid to experiment.  And the beauty of it was that he was his own George Martin.  No one except Page himself was going to mess with the artistic integrity of his band.  When I first bought Led Zeppelin III, I didn't get it.  WTF were they doing with all these mellow acoustic tracks?   At the time, it was a letdown to me after the heavy metal brute power of II.  In hindsight, after seeing what they did with Zoso and Houses, I can better understand where Page was coming from and now have a whole new appreciation and love for III.    

- I love jam music, and Zeppelin are one of the few bands (The Dead and King Crimson being the others) that I will actively seek out bootlegs because I absolutely adore their extended jams (No Quarter, Dazed and Confused, Bring It On Home) and song variants (Immigrant Song, Over The Hills, etc).  As exacting as Jimmy Page was in the studio, they played fast and loose in a live setting.  Page admitted that they were very much a "jam" band when a journalist opined that their live songs were never faithful to the studio versions.      

So yeah... nerdy as it sounds, I've got a little shrine to Zeppelin in my den consisting of my old vinyls, a newer cd boxset, several biography books, live dvds, bootleg cds, all topped off with a miniature Jimmy Page figure triumphantly holding up his violin bow.  
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: PixelDream on August 11, 2010, 06:55:31 PM
Cool post LudwigVan.  :tup

I'm tempted to play one of their songs with my band (we hardly ever do covers). But then I hear Plant's vocals, and I know we're not going to pull if off.

I mean this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJFSNC2wY-Y

Cool that she does it, it's not bad. But in comparison to the original, it kinda is. So dangerous territory, but she sure got balls for doing it anyway!
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Birch Boy on August 11, 2010, 06:58:25 PM
My band screws around with a lot of Zeppelin. We do a cover of "Whole Lotta Love", and screw around with "Communication Breakdown", "Immigrant Song", "Stairway To Heaven", and "Black Dog" a lot.

I was at a battle of the bands once, and this awesome Primus/Buckethead/metal-like band didn't know that one of their songs had to be a cover (it was a contest with rules) until they got there. Anyway, they did the best Led Zeppelin cover I'd ever seen. Ever. They played a killer "Moby Dick", spot on, and in some places adding flair.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: skydivingninja on August 11, 2010, 08:16:11 PM
Zeppelin is great for summer music.  Houses of the Holy is probably my favorite, followed by III. 
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: sneakyblueberry on August 11, 2010, 08:50:46 PM
Digging the love for Houses in this thread, its also my favourite (Rain Song ftw).  I totally know what the OP is talking about.  For me, Zep was a band that was always around me while I was younger, but until I actually went out of my way to dig deeper into them I never realised just how awesome they were.  Just one watch of the DVD is enough to prove that to anyone.  I don't think there will ever be a band like them ever again.

Have most people seen the Zeppelin DVD?  I really like the extras on the first disc, especially the performances on the Danish tv show or whatever it is.  In black and white.  Its awesome seeing them before all the fame and huge arena tours playing to just a small bunch of people sitting on the floor! :lol  Even then you can still see that they were a band who just loved playing music, no matter how big the audience.  Also cool seeing Page play his paint-splattered tele.  Apparently thats the guitar used to record the Stairway solo.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Orbert on August 11, 2010, 09:31:43 PM
Being a child of the 70's, I grew up with Zeppelin as well.  We even played "Thank You" at my wedding.  The main sequence for me is probably the fourth album through Presence, but sirbradford is correct, there are no bad Zeppelin albums.  I've always had a little trouble getting into III, but I could never call it a bad album, just not quite my thing.  And yeah, Coda.  But it wasn't their fault.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: KevShmev on August 11, 2010, 10:07:53 PM
Led Zeppelin's awesomeness can never be talked about enough. 

My funny story about LZ is hearing "Fool in the Rain" on the radio somewhere around '91 or '92, but not knowing the name of the damn song.  I tried to call the radio station to find out, but kept getting a busy signal.  None of the friends I saw in the next few days after that knew.  It was infuriating.  Remember, this was long before the internet and text messaging, so there was little I could do.  And I was still a teenager with little money, so I wasn't about to run out and buy every LZ CD (although I guess I should have, since they are all great, but of course I didn't know that at the time).  I remember when I finally found out the name of the song...it was a wonderful day. :)
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: The King in Crimson on August 11, 2010, 10:26:40 PM
Led Zeppelin's awesomeness can never be talked about enough. 

My funny story about LZ is hearing "Fool in the Rain" on the radio somewhere around '91 or '92, but not knowing the name of the damn song.  I tried to call the radio station to find out, but kept getting a busy signal.  None of the friends I saw in the next few days after that knew.  It was infuriating.  Remember, this was long before the internet and text messaging, so there was little I could do.  And I was still a teenager with little money, so I wasn't about to run out and buy every LZ CD (although I guess I should have, since they are all great, but of course I didn't know that at the time).  I remember when I finally found out the name of the song...it was a wonderful day. :)
One of my favorite LZ songs, btw.  :tup
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: masterthes on August 11, 2010, 10:41:47 PM
If I had to rank the albums, it'd go something like this:

1. Houses Of The Holy
2. IV
3. Physical Graffiti
4. II
5. III
6. I
7. In Through The Out Door
8. Presence
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Scard on August 12, 2010, 12:27:20 AM
Definitely one of my favourite bands. Led Zeppelin II is my favourite album ever.

Zep ranking:

1. II
2. Houses of the Holy
3. IV
4. I
5. III
6. In Through the Out Door
7. Presence
8. Physical Graffiti

Might look a little strange, but that's it!
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Mladen on August 12, 2010, 04:17:09 AM
One of my favorite bands of all time, just unbelievable music. My order:

1. Houses of the holy
2. In through the out door
3. III
4. II
5. IV
6. Physical graffiti
7. Presence
8. I
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: sneakyblueberry on August 12, 2010, 04:58:23 AM
Definitely one of my favourite bands. Led Zeppelin II is my favourite album ever.

Zep ranking:

1. II
2. Houses of the Holy
3. IV
4. I
5. III
6. In Through the Out Door
7. Presence
8. Physical Graffiti

Might look a little strange, but that's it!

Not at all strange!  I never really got into PG like most people.  I love Ten Years Gone, Night Flight and some other stuff, but as a whole the album never clicked with me.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jakartabassplayer on August 12, 2010, 05:04:35 AM
how about The Rover, Kashmir and Trampled Under Foot
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Scard on August 12, 2010, 05:45:42 AM
how about The Rover, Kashmir and Trampled Under Foot

3 great songs....on an otherwise uneventful DOUBLE album, imo
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Orbert on August 12, 2010, 07:42:22 AM
Night Flight has the get up and go.  In the Light is amazing.  Ten Years Gone is one of the most beautiful songs ever written.  So is Bron-Yr-Aur.

I'll grant you that Physical Graffiti is uneven; that's to be expected from a double album of outtakes, but it's far from uneventful.

Also, Kashmir is overrated and overplayed, although those two may be related.  I really liked it for a while, but there's just not enough going on to justify 8.5 minutes.  Our drummer absolutely hated that song because it was so boring to play, and I couldn't disagree.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: sirbradford117 on August 12, 2010, 08:16:20 AM
I'd like to do another Zep survivor soon.  Watch for it coming up!
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Mladen on August 12, 2010, 09:29:02 AM
I'd love a Led Zeppelin survivor.  :tup

As for Physical graffiti... The first LP is amazing, I enjoy every single song. However, the second LP has a lot of filler and some of their weakest songs in my opinion. Still, Sick again, The Wanton song and Ten years gone kick some serious ass.  :metal
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Birch Boy on August 12, 2010, 10:41:07 AM
I'd like to do another Zep survivor soon.  Watch for it coming up!
I'd participate
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: zxlkho on August 12, 2010, 10:44:44 AM
I'd participate too, but we have 93847928374 survivors coming up including my Tool survivor.  :D
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: The Letter M on August 12, 2010, 12:24:25 PM
Listened to Houses Of The Holy, Physical Graffiti and IV this morning before coming to work... What a way to start the day!

-Marc.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Birch Boy on August 12, 2010, 12:46:55 PM
I'd participate too, but we have 93847928374 survivors coming up including my Tool survivor.  :D
START TEH TOOL SURVIVER!!111!!!!!!1!!!!ONE!!!111
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: zxlkho on August 12, 2010, 01:19:53 PM
I'd participate too, but we have 93847928374 survivors coming up including my Tool survivor.  :D
START TEH TOOL SURVIVER!!111!!!!!!1!!!!ONE!!!111
I have to wait for the Coheed one to finish. Or so Setrataeso says
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: KevShmev on August 12, 2010, 04:57:20 PM
I agree with Mladen that the 2nd disc of PG has a few forgettable songs, but it also has some killer ones.  Overall, PG is still a damn fine album; one of my favorites by LZ.  "Ten Years Gone" and "In My Time of Dying" are two of my favorite LZ tunes, and "Black Country Woman" is a great song that never seems to get talked about.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: sneakyblueberry on August 12, 2010, 05:33:50 PM
Ten Years Gone is just one of the most beautiful songs ever written.  PG for me is a few good studio cuts, followed by a few songs that are overshadowed by superior live versions, then the rest filler.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Fluffy Lothario on August 12, 2010, 10:36:10 PM
Led Zeppelin are pretty great. I can't say I've ever been cuckoo about them, but I've consistently enjoyed their stuff quite a lot ever since I first got into them.

I still need to get LZ3, and any of the albums after PG, though I hadn't actually considered getting them (except for 3).

Of the ones I've heard, my favourites would be 4, then PG, then 1. Houses of the Holy is my least favourite by an insane margin.

The second disc of PG is all over the place, but in a good way. The only track I'm not so fond of is the last, cos it's far too typical, but second-rate Zeppelin.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Orbert on August 12, 2010, 11:23:20 PM
Of the ones I've heard, my favourites would be 4, then PG, then 1. Houses of the Holy is my least favourite by an insane margin.

Wow, that's wacky.  Every Zep fan I know tends to regard the fourth album and Houses pretty much equally, with one slightly edging out the other.  What is it about Houses that you don't like?
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: KevShmev on August 12, 2010, 11:29:03 PM
Houses of the Holy is my least favourite by an insane margin.

To each his own. :)  

Personally, it is my favorite.  I love the laid back vibe of songs like "The Rain Song" and "No Quarter."  "The Crunge" is a slight hiccup, but everything else on this record is absolutely aces. :tup :tup
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: The King in Crimson on August 12, 2010, 11:41:28 PM
I love the laid back vibe of songs like "The Rain Song" and "No Quarter."  "The Crunge" is a slight hiccup, but everything else on this record is absolutely aces. :tup :tup
Totally agreed.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Fluffy Lothario on August 13, 2010, 02:09:24 AM
Of the ones I've heard, my favourites would be 4, then PG, then 1. Houses of the Holy is my least favourite by an insane margin.

Wow, that's wacky.  Every Zep fan I know tends to regard the fourth album and Houses pretty much equally, with one slightly edging out the other.  What is it about Houses that you don't like?
I like the Rain Song, Over the Hills and Far Away and D'Yer Maker. The rest isn't absolutely terrible, but it's just never gone down well for me, so overall, I much prefer all of their other albums. I find this album sounds far more like outtakes than PG.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Orbert on August 13, 2010, 08:05:06 AM
Well okay, as KevShmev says, to each his own.  I thought maybe it was the sound/production of the album.  The fourth album sounds quite warm and rich to me, whereas Houses sounds a lot brighter and open.  I find the songs very comparable, though.

"The Song Remains the Same" is one of my all-time favorite album openers.  Grabs you by the hair, slaps you round a little, backs off, then starts in on you again.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Mladen on August 13, 2010, 08:12:17 AM
I'd say Houses of the holy is my favorite hard rock album of all time. I don't know why I called it a hard rock album, because there's a lot of diversity on it - can you believe The Crunge, Dyer Maker, No quarter and Dancing days are recorded by the same band and released on the same album? I like every single song, it's just a wonderful piece of music.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Orbert on August 13, 2010, 08:17:36 AM
Road trip today, five or six hours, to go jam with my buds in Michigan.  I think I'll listen to House of the Holy all the way through.  Thanks for the suggestion! 

:tup
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Scard on August 13, 2010, 08:26:38 AM
Houses is amazing. I love every song from it. I spin the vinyl often enough
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: lonestar on August 13, 2010, 12:22:28 PM
I just got totally into them and they're awesome. They've always been my father's favorite band, but somehow I just couldn't get addicted to it. Now, after having listened to so many contemporary rock bands, hearing this: This is something truly unique, still.

I started out with Led Zeppelin IV, because I thought it was the easiest to get into. It worked, and now I'm starting with Zeppelin I, working my way up. Their DVD release simply called 'DVD' is excellent as well.

So, tell us how you got into Zeppelin, what you like about them/got into them/favorite songs/album etc. Or don't like about them, as long as you speak with respect!  :hat

p.s. I'm now at track #4: Dazed and Confused. I'm mildly familiar with it, but I never truly listened to it. This is AMAZING!
*cherry=popped*

Been listening to Zep for over thirty years.  Enjoy the experience.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: PixelDream on August 13, 2010, 12:30:50 PM
I've listened to I, II, IV and Holy thus far. Holy is pretty damn great! Lots of different styles, and I recognised one of the songs, with the reggae vibe. That's great!
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: hefdaddy42 on August 14, 2010, 05:56:07 AM
Led Zeppelin is awesome, probably my favorite band of all time.  I first got hooked hearing their stuff on the radio, and getting enthralled with all the mystique around Stairway.  I was hooked.  Once I started messing around with guitar, Stairway was one of the first songs I learned.  Still a masterpiece, after all this time.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: King Postwhore on August 14, 2010, 06:10:22 AM
My favorite album run for Zep is,

Houses Of The Holy
Physical Graffiti
Presence
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: axeman90210 on August 14, 2010, 07:53:03 AM
also, let me just throw it out there that How The West Was Won is one of the best live albums out there. If I could see any band from any time live, Zeppelin in their prime would probably edge out MoP tour Metallica
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Birch Boy on August 14, 2010, 10:42:35 AM
Just saw the tribute band Kashmir last night, and they were awesome. From the replica kit and the guitars, to the looks, hair, clothes, and mannerisms, they were great. Their laser show was really cool as well, and really mesmerized me (although that may have been from what we did before the show ::)). As soon as they finished their encore ("How Many More Times"), we ran back behind the tent (it was an outdoor show) and waited for them to come out and shook their hands and stuff. The only thing that could've been better was if the drummer's rack tom didn't get busted on "Moby Dick", and if his floor toms were mic'd better and weren't dead.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jakartabassplayer on August 14, 2010, 12:52:06 PM
My favorite album run for Zep is,

Houses Of The Holy
Physical Graffiti
Presence
:tup
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: axeman90210 on August 16, 2010, 07:33:54 AM
bump because I was reminded last night of just how much Robert Plant fucking kills it on Since I've Been Loving You.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Orbert on August 16, 2010, 08:08:08 AM
Listened to IV and V straight through the other day.  Loved them both.  Still my favorite back-to-back albums from Zep.

Told my buddy about it, and how III is the only Zep album I really have never gotten into, because it's so different, and he said it's his favorite, because it's so different.  So on the way home, I listened to III straight through.  Still can't grok it.  Some good songs, a few great ones, and way too much of the cajun bayou blues or whatever that is.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jakartabassplayer on August 16, 2010, 08:41:38 AM
1. Led Zep IV
2. Led Zep I
3. Physical Graffiti
4. Led Zep II
5. Presence

Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Birch Boy on August 16, 2010, 10:26:01 AM
Jason Bonham's Led Zeppelin experience released dates today! Probably seeing them in November. :metal
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: hefdaddy42 on August 16, 2010, 10:41:00 AM
also, let me just throw it out there that How The West Was Won is one of the best live albums out there. If I could see any band from any time live, Zeppelin in their prime would probably edge out MoP tour Metallica
All of this.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: LudwigVan on August 16, 2010, 10:57:07 AM
I would hit this:

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE67C1C020100813


Jason Bonham takes Led Zeppelin Experience on road

By Gary Graff

Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:28am EDT

DETROIT (Billboard) - Jason Bonham knows better than to promise a Led Zeppelin reunion as part of his "Jason Bonham's Led Zeppelin Experience" show that goes on tour this fall. But he's certainly not opposed to the idea.

"I'm not going to hide it from them," Bonham, who filled his late father John "Bonzo" Bonham's spot and played with Jimmy Page, Robert Plant and John Paul Jones at the 2007 Zep reunion concert at London's O2 arena, tells Billboard.com.

"I will invite them to every show I can, because my goal and dream is, 'Wouldn't it be cool if I did something that they thought was cool and they would get up and play with me?' That's what I'm doing (this) for. I'd love it."

Plant has, in fact, already given his public blessing to Bonham's multimedia show, which is due to hit the road this October in North America. Bonham says he has yet to hear from Page and Jones, whom he worked with on an unrealized project shortly after the O2 show.

The shows, commemorating the 30th anniversary of John Bonham's death and the immediate dissolution of Led Zeppelin, are co-produced by Annerin Productions, which also presents the Beatles tribute show "Rain" and "The Pink Floyd Experience."

"What I want to do is a personal story," explains Bonham, who was 14 when his hard-living choked on his vomit aged 32.

He will be accompanied by a five-piece band whose members he has yet to reveal. The show will incorporate archival video material and set changes, and Bonham plans to record narration that will precede some of the songs and "give a little background on them and the reason why I'm playing them, and stories about growing up with dad and how Zeppelin has been part of my life from the beginning. It's a good musical journey; it'll be sad at times ... but it will really be a celebration."

Bonham hopes that his "Led Zeppelin Experience" will expand beyond the 30 shows he currently has planned, and he'd like to see the production grow to possibly include orchestrations -- which he may try out in certain cities during the fall tour. Dates and ticket sale information are expected to be announced next week
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Birch Boy on August 16, 2010, 11:34:37 AM
I would hit this:

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE67C1C020100813


Jason Bonham takes Led Zeppelin Experience on road

By Gary Graff

Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:28am EDT

DETROIT (Billboard) - Jason Bonham knows better than to promise a Led Zeppelin reunion as part of his "Jason Bonham's Led Zeppelin Experience" show that goes on tour this fall. But he's certainly not opposed to the idea.

"I'm not going to hide it from them," Bonham, who filled his late father John "Bonzo" Bonham's spot and played with Jimmy Page, Robert Plant and John Paul Jones at the 2007 Zep reunion concert at London's O2 arena, tells Billboard.com.

"I will invite them to every show I can, because my goal and dream is, 'Wouldn't it be cool if I did something that they thought was cool and they would get up and play with me?' That's what I'm doing (this) for. I'd love it."

Plant has, in fact, already given his public blessing to Bonham's multimedia show, which is due to hit the road this October in North America. Bonham says he has yet to hear from Page and Jones, whom he worked with on an unrealized project shortly after the O2 show.

The shows, commemorating the 30th anniversary of John Bonham's death and the immediate dissolution of Led Zeppelin, are co-produced by Annerin Productions, which also presents the Beatles tribute show "Rain" and "The Pink Floyd Experience."

"What I want to do is a personal story," explains Bonham, who was 14 when his hard-living choked on his vomit aged 32.

He will be accompanied by a five-piece band whose members he has yet to reveal. The show will incorporate archival video material and set changes, and Bonham plans to record narration that will precede some of the songs and "give a little background on them and the reason why I'm playing them, and stories about growing up with dad and how Zeppelin has been part of my life from the beginning. It's a good musical journey; it'll be sad at times ... but it will really be a celebration."

Bonham hopes that his "Led Zeppelin Experience" will expand beyond the 30 shows he currently has planned, and he'd like to see the production grow to possibly include orchestrations -- which he may try out in certain cities during the fall tour. Dates and ticket sale information are expected to be announced next week

Beat you to it, I actually posted something about it on the first page, plus this:
Jason Bonham's Led Zeppelin experience released dates today! Probably seeing them in November. :metal
;D
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Orbert on August 16, 2010, 12:12:35 PM
Quote
Bonham, who was 14 when his hard-living choked on his vomit aged 32.

What?
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: antigoon on August 16, 2010, 12:13:59 PM
That sounds pretty neat, actually.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: KevShmev on August 16, 2010, 01:30:15 PM
Just started a Zeppelin survivor in the P/S section. :)
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Kornflake on August 17, 2010, 10:22:54 PM
I got into Zeppelin in highschool in 2001 or 2002 or so.  It was before everyone had broadband internet and Napster was just kind of starting to hit the scene...  So I started scouring garage sales for 50 cent vinyl records rather than paying $20 on CDs...besides...the classics fromt he 70s beat 3 Doors Down and Wheatus any day.  I got my hands on Zeppelin II for $1 and they've been one of my top 3 favourites ever since. The problem I ran into was that I started getting really into records, and then found myself going to trade shows and stuff and paying $20+ to get my hands on some of the rarer ones...which was pretty much exactly opposite to why I started buying them in the first place lol.
Zeppelin III is probably my #1 and I love Physical Graffiti too...Bron-Yr-Aur (forgive me if I spelled it wrong) might be my favourite song ever.
Great Great band.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: ddtonfire on March 15, 2011, 08:56:38 PM
I think Led Zeppelin is a pretty cool guy. eh plays Stairway in a guitar shop and doesnt afraid of anything.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jirpo on March 16, 2011, 04:40:40 AM
I and IV are my faves, followed by prescence :)
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on March 16, 2011, 10:20:09 AM
I could write a book on Zep.  Hands down the greatest rock band in the world.  I remember back in 75 I came across a '71 L.A. Forum bootleg at a swapmeet, It had them playing Black Dog and Stairway, before the album was released.  It was awesome...the intro to Stairway, everyone was very quiet... by the end the crowd was going INFUCKINGSANE!!!!  I actually thought about this bootleg when reading the recent ytsejam thread.  Amazing back then how hard it was to come across a bootleg.  Jimmy Page is one of the best songwriters in Rock history, not the best performer live mind ya... but overall one of the best.  Case in point, just listen too the first 7 mins of Achilles Last Stand.  Hard to rate the albums, cause it's changed for me over the decades.  For now, I'd go with....

1.  Physical Graffiti
2.  LZ 1
3.  LZ IV  ( some call it the Zoso album, some call it 4, some call it simply LZ)
4.  LZ 2
5.  TSRTS
6.  Houses of the Holy
7.  Presence
8.  LZ 3
9.  ITTOD


Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: TAC on March 16, 2011, 11:30:29 AM
Ahh... Led Zeppelin.  How hum-drum and shocking is it for a 47-year old male who went to HS in the 70s to proclaim that Led Zep is his all-time favorite band?   Ummm... very!  But I'm gonna say it anyway:  Led Zeppelin are my all-time favorite band.  It wasn't always this way, as this is one band that has managed to come full-circle on me.  

It started when I was about 12-13 yrs old and I first heard Whole Lotta Love being played as a single on the radio.  Everything about it absolutely blew me away, from that weird cough at the beginning into the explosive Page riff that immediately gets doubled with JPJ's bass.  Then the unbridled Plant vocal/lyric that's filled with sexual innuendo up the kazoo, and the weirdly orgasmic instrumental break that resolves itself into a classic Page solo.... I was hooked BIG TIME.   So was the rest of the world.  

And that was part of the problem with Zeppelin for me after a few years of hoarding up all their albums..... they got TOO big.   They were EVERYWHERE overexposed with their music being played to death on hit radio, and I got caught up in the media backlash that called them out for being self-indulgent piggish superstars (which they were).  So there was a time in my college years when I didn't go near Zeppelin, opting in favor of more trendy 80s music like The Clash, Iron Maiden, Priest, Queensryche, Metallica, The Grateful Dead etc.    

With the perspective of time, however, and after listening to tons of bands over the years, I've come to recognize that their music has never really been truly surpassed.   Led Zeppelin manages to satisfy my craving for so much that I ask for in my music.  

- I love hard rock, and there is no rhythm section that has ever hit me quite as hard as Jones/Bonham.  Not one.  Back in the day, most bands revolved around 1, maybe 2 players, usually the vocalist or lead guitarist.  Zep was one of the 1st groups (Cream the other) that showed what could done when a band consisted of 4 "lead" instrumentalists.    

- I love prog rock, and Zeppelin, while not truly 'prog', is one of the only hard rock bands to "progress" from album to album.  What band was able to shift from heavy blues to celtic folk to Middle-eastern modes so seamlessly, and all within the span of one album?  Banjo anyone?  Mandolin Mellotron Theremin?  Page was not afraid to experiment.  And the beauty of it was that he was his own George Martin.  No one except Page himself was going to mess with the artistic integrity of his band.  When I first bought Led Zeppelin III, I didn't get it.  WTF were they doing with all these mellow acoustic tracks?   At the time, it was a letdown to me after the heavy metal brute power of II.  In hindsight, after seeing what they did with Zoso and Houses, I can better understand where Page was coming from and now have a whole new appreciation and love for III.    

- I love jam music, and Zeppelin are one of the few bands (The Dead and King Crimson being the others) that I will actively seek out bootlegs because I absolutely adore their extended jams (No Quarter, Dazed and Confused, Bring It On Home) and song variants (Immigrant Song, Over The Hills, etc).  As exacting as Jimmy Page was in the studio, they played fast and loose in a live setting.  Page admitted that they were very much a "jam" band when a journalist opined that their live songs were never faithful to the studio versions.      

So yeah... nerdy as it sounds, I've got a little shrine to Zeppelin in my den consisting of my old vinyls, a newer cd boxset, several biography books, live dvds, bootleg cds, all topped off with a miniature Jimmy Page figure triumphantly holding up his violin bow.  

LV, I can't remember if I had read this previously, but I enjored it! About time you take a stand on something. :P
Now we just have to get you to do a Top 10 LZ songs and Top 3 LZ albums list!

I love this line:
  Led Zeppelin manages to satisfy my craving for so much that I ask for in my music.   

In many ways this sums up how I feel about Dream Theater. They take the best of all I love about music and bands and wrap it up nicely into one package.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Orbert on March 16, 2011, 11:33:04 AM
Did our search function suddenly start working, or did someone actually search, find, and ressurect a seven-month-old thread?

I'm not complaining, just wondering.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: ddtonfire on March 16, 2011, 12:29:25 PM
Did our search function suddenly start working, or did someone actually search, find, and ressurect a seven-month-old thread?

I'm not complaining, just wondering.

It is I. I used the search function and chose the "Led Zeppelin appreciation thread" with the most recent reply.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: LudwigVan on March 16, 2011, 01:02:52 PM


LV, I can't remember if I had read this previously, but I enjored it! About time you take a stand on something. :P
Now we just have to get you to do a Top 10 LZ songs and Top 3 LZ albums list!

I love this line:
  Led Zeppelin manages to satisfy my craving for so much that I ask for in my music.   

In many ways this sums up how I feel about Dream Theater. They take the best of all I love about music and bands and wrap it up nicely into one package.

Glad you caught it on the rebound!  It's too difficult for me to do a top 10 songs list, but I will say that my favorite albums are II, Zoso, PG and Houses.

One writer made an interesting point that never occurred to me (at least in a conscious way).  Of course they were one of the progenitors of 'cock-rock', but Led Zeppelin's music also contains a lot imagery that refers to journies and travels in both a physical and meta-physical sense.  Rambling on...going to Kashmir/California/Chicago...stairways... Misty Mountains...over the hills...to castles and oceans.   Their music just takes me with them.     

Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: sneakyblueberry on March 16, 2011, 11:19:24 PM
Achilles Last Stand came on the radio today.  I was like 'Yes please.'

What a killer song.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: SPNKr on March 16, 2011, 11:20:46 PM
^ Killer song.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: lateralus88 on March 16, 2011, 11:21:14 PM
Never been a huge Zeppelin fan, but I've always had appreciation for them as musicians and for their music. But recently I've been in love with Zeppelin I. What a fucking cool album.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: sneakyblueberry on March 16, 2011, 11:28:22 PM
^ Killer album
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Birch Boy on March 18, 2011, 06:35:24 AM
Favorite albums in loose order:

1. Houses Of The Holy
2. Led Zeppelin I
3. Physical Graffiti
4. Led Zeppelin II - Led Zeppelin IV
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Fluffy Lothario on September 25, 2011, 04:11:07 AM
I recently bought LZIII (and completed my collection of the LZI through PG run).

Damn, what an album. Bar the last track, it's pretty great all the way.  And the electric side/acoustic side idea works so well, particularly because, IMO, the quality of the two sides is really balanced. I always felt Foo Fighters' In Your Honor would've worked a lot better if they'd limited themselves to five or six songs off of each side and made it a single disc, and listening to LZIII really shows you why.

At this point, I'd probably rank the first six:
IV
PG
III
I
II
HOTH

Although LZI might make a comeback and beat off III for 3rd position.

I still need to check out Presence at some point, and I think I'll also hunt down the BBC Sessions eventually.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jirpo on September 25, 2011, 04:24:28 AM
The last two songs on III are some of my least favourite Zep songs. The rest of the album is pretty spectacular.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: jingle.boy on September 25, 2011, 12:08:44 PM
Bron-Y-Aur Stomp is kinda fun actually.  Hats Off to (Roy) Harper on the other hand is painful.  Easily my least favorite Zeppelin song ever.  If that had been replaced with Hey Hey What Can I Do, then this would be my favorite Zeppelin album ever, and probably Top 3 album of all time.  Hats Off is just that bad.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: MasterShakezula on September 25, 2011, 01:02:59 PM
I like III a lot. 

The electric side is awesome.  The other side isn't, but it has an awesome song in Gallows Pole.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jaq on September 25, 2011, 03:24:34 PM
I went through a period back around the time they did the O2 show that I went absolutely MAD for Led Zeppelin after years of just accepting them as one of the standards of classic rock and a hugely influential band. Mainly it was because, not so much their studio albums, although I did buy all of them, but their bootlegs. I have heard something in the area of 100 Led Zeppelin concerts, and even their sloppiest messes from the 1977 tour are fascinating to listen to. I would spend days just focusing on an individual tour, playing two or three shows in a row and just being amazed over and over when the band was ON and clicking on all cylinders. Sometimes the self-indulgence would get a bit much, like the 1975 North American tour versions of Dazed and Confused that got over 40 minutes long, but there's a lot of magic to be found in Zeppelin concerts. Especially from 1969 to 1973, they were fantastic on stage before Plant finally blew his voice out and Page started getting really sloppy on stage.

tl;dr: studio Zep is great, live Zep was amazing at times but always interesting.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jirpo on September 25, 2011, 08:44:07 PM
Tangerine and That's the Way are amazing!
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: TempusVox on September 26, 2011, 03:00:49 PM
Love Zeppelin. Probably my favorite band of all time.

Goin' To California
Immigrant Song
When the Levee Breaks (greatest drum beat/riff intro of any song ever)
Ramble On
Gallows Pole
Battle of Evermore
The Rain Song
Kashmir
That's the Way
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jirpo on September 26, 2011, 07:37:30 PM
Going to California number one? Thats interesting. Love all those songs. Probably Kashmir and Battle of Evermore would make my top 10, maybe Levee too.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: TempusVox on September 26, 2011, 10:01:23 PM
Going to California number one? Thats interesting. Love all those songs. Probably Kashmir and Battle of Evermore would make my top 10, maybe Levee too.

They weren't in any particular order. Sorry. Should have mentioned that.  Ramble On or Galows Pole probably vie for #1 in my book.

EDIT: Scratch that.  :lol Just remembered.... Since I've Been Loving You, as well as No Quarter, Black Dog, and In The Evening.

Damn! I love this band..  :lol
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jirpo on September 27, 2011, 12:04:41 AM
Yep, too many good songs...

Achilles is my favourite, closely followed by Stairway :)
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Mladen on September 27, 2011, 04:20:24 AM
Stairway is my number one. It's interesting, Zeppelin might be the only band whose most popular song is my personal favorite.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jirpo on September 27, 2011, 04:23:12 AM
Stairway is underrated because so many people tend to overrate it.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: dbrooks22 on September 27, 2011, 08:19:26 AM
Achilles = powerhouse.  Nobody's Fault but mine also great... Presence is a really sweet album.

Zep was the soundtrack of my pre-adolescent years.  I love all their stuff.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: LudwigVan on September 27, 2011, 09:31:33 AM
I went through a period back around the time they did the O2 show that I went absolutely MAD for Led Zeppelin after years of just accepting them as one of the standards of classic rock and a hugely influential band. Mainly it was because, not so much their studio albums, although I did buy all of them, but their bootlegs. I have heard something in the area of 100 Led Zeppelin concerts, and even their sloppiest messes from the 1977 tour are fascinating to listen to. I would spend days just focusing on an individual tour, playing two or three shows in a row and just being amazed over and over when the band was ON and clicking on all cylinders. Sometimes the self-indulgence would get a bit much, like the 1975 North American tour versions of Dazed and Confused that got over 40 minutes long, but there's a lot of magic to be found in Zeppelin concerts. Especially from 1969 to 1973, they were fantastic on stage before Plant finally blew his voice out and Page started getting really sloppy on stage.

tl;dr: studio Zep is great, live Zep was amazing at times but always interesting.

Yeah, the thing I love about live Zeppelin is that you can really see the creative process at work during their extended jams and improvs.  Oftentimes you would hear them tooling around with old blues riffs and motifs, inverting chords and whatnot, playing snippets and snatches of new ideas, some of which are fleshed out into full-fledged songs on their later albums.   

This is the main difference between studio Zep and live Zep, something which some fans have a difficult time reconciling.  In the studio, they crafted their songs for maximum impact, whereas the live show was about maximum self-indulgence with freedom to experiment and meander.   Almost like 2 different bands at work, depending on the setting.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Orbert on September 27, 2011, 10:33:29 AM
Stairway is my number one. It's interesting, Zeppelin might be the only band whose most popular song is my personal favorite.

I still love that song.  The studio version is a masterpiece.  Yeah, it's been played to death on the radio.  This bothers me not at all because I have a functional brain, therefore I can separate how popular a song is from how much I like it.  Sometimes it turns out that popular songs really are quite good, and this is one of those times.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: jonny108 on September 27, 2011, 11:39:53 AM
These and Dream Theater are my favourite bands.

This was when I first had it done about two years ago.
(https://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/165/9/6/zep_by_jonny108-d3ix5yf.jpg)
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: jingle.boy on September 27, 2011, 12:41:08 PM
Very nice jonny.  Here's mine engraved 21 years ago. 

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-NPlpMeQdVWI/ToIYh9SZdbE/AAAAAAAAAAs/HnhiRx5BkCQ/s144-c/Test.jpg)

Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jirpo on September 27, 2011, 07:25:33 PM
Stairway is my number one. It's interesting, Zeppelin might be the only band whose most popular song is my personal favorite.

I still love that song.  The studio version is a masterpiece.  Yeah, it's been played to death on the radio.  This bothers me not at all because I have a functional brain, therefore I can separate how popular a song is from how much I like it.  Sometimes it turns out that popular songs really are quite good, and this is one of those times.
Well said!

And nice tattoos :)
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Nel on September 08, 2012, 10:59:09 AM
On the band's FB page they have put this up. If it means what I think it means... welp, holy shit.

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/216964_379888095416968_776403993_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: theseoafs on September 08, 2012, 11:01:22 AM
Saw that too.  I'm not really sure what to think of it at this point.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Mladen on September 08, 2012, 11:12:48 AM
I have no idea what it means...  :D
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: The King in Crimson on September 08, 2012, 11:32:35 AM
I have no idea what it means...  :D
Color me ignant as well.

Though I am, of course, intrigued.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Metro on September 08, 2012, 12:09:07 PM
There's been a few rumors going arond that the Reunion concert back in 07(Five years ago) is gonna be released on DVD this year.

But if this really is Led Zeppelin V, then color me excited  :D
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Mosh on September 08, 2012, 12:09:34 PM
Reunion show on DVD perhaps?

I'd be very surprised if this was for a new album.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Nel on September 08, 2012, 12:45:17 PM
There's been a few rumors going arond that the Reunion concert back in 07(Five years ago) is gonna be released on DVD this year.

But if this really is Led Zeppelin V, then color me excited  :D

Yeah, i read that too, so now I'm trying to keep my expectations low. But I mean, when they put FIVE in that font, the first thing I'm going to think of is "Oh mah gah Led Zeppelin IV existed so now Led Zeppelin V!" not "Oh, well, five years ago blah blah blah...".  :P Still though, this could be anything, so I'm going to try and not get too excited.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: jjrock88 on September 08, 2012, 01:27:24 PM
I can't believe that reunion show hasn't been released yet
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: DebraKadabra on September 08, 2012, 02:52:52 PM
Achilles Last Stand came on the radio today.  I was like 'Yes please.'

What a killer song.

Favorite LZ song, hands down.  LOVE it. :2metal:
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Orbert on September 08, 2012, 03:00:48 PM
I found a pretty good quality boot of the O2 concert on the net shortly after, and still have it.  I figured it would hold me until the official release that was sure would happen.  Like everyone else here, I'm amazed that it hasn't happened (yet).
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: jingle.boy on September 08, 2012, 04:07:53 PM
I found a pretty good quality boot of the O2 concert on the net shortly after, and still have it.  I figured it would hold me until the official release that was sure would happen.  Like everyone else here, I'm amazed that it hasn't happened (yet).

Ditto. Dimeadozen had a good boot that I was able to grab.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jaq on September 08, 2012, 04:28:55 PM
Yeah, I grabbed a low quality boot the day after the show and replaced it a few weeks later with a great sounding version, all the while thinking it wouldn't be long before there would be an official release anyway. Hell, I figured Page would do it just for the challenge of finding a way of fixing the spectacular botch in Dazed And Confused.  :lol
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: MondayMorningLunatic on September 08, 2012, 04:39:43 PM
I listened to almost nothing but Zeppelin in high school. Interestingly enough, the album I find myself returning to the most is In Through The Out Door + the B-sides Ozone Baby, Darlene, and Wearing & Tearing. Who else loves In Through The Out Door? It's such an interesting departure from everything else they did, what with JPJ taking over and everything.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Mosh on September 08, 2012, 05:03:48 PM
In Through The Out Door is awesome! In The Evening, South Bound Saurez, Carouselambra, Fool In The Rain, and All My Love are top tier songs.

My personal favorite album would be Houses of the Holy though. Every single song is something different, it's fantastic.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Phoenix87x on September 08, 2012, 05:14:10 PM
I do not listen to Led Zeppelin often enough.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: jjrock88 on September 08, 2012, 07:09:45 PM
I listened to almost nothing but Zeppelin in high school. Interestingly enough, the album I find myself returning to the most is In Through The Out Door + the B-sides Ozone Baby, Darlene, and Wearing & Tearing. Who else loves In Through The Out Door? It's such an interesting departure from everything else they did, what with JPJ taking over and everything.

Ozone Baby should have been an official release from the band; such a cool song!
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: jingle.boy on September 08, 2012, 07:11:23 PM
Carouselambra is easily a top 10 Zep song for me.  Wearing and Tearing was good too.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: MondayMorningLunatic on September 08, 2012, 07:33:36 PM
Yes, Carouselambra is amazing. I like it more than Stairway (though that statement might be regarded as blasphemous in some circles).
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Unlegit on September 08, 2012, 07:44:19 PM
Led Zeppelin is pretty awesome. Here's my album ranking:

8. Presence
7. In Through the Out Door
6. Physical Graffiti
5. III
4. I
3. Houses of the Holy
2. IV
1. II
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: MondayMorningLunatic on September 08, 2012, 07:54:10 PM
1. Physical Graffiti
2. In Through The Out Door
3. Houses Of The Holy
4. Led Zeppelin III
5. Led Zeppelin II
6. Led Zeppelin IV
7. Led Zeppelin I
8. Presence
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: The King in Crimson on September 08, 2012, 08:30:29 PM
In Through The Out Door is great.  I don't get why people hate on it sometimes.  :P

My ranking:

Led Zeppelin IV
Houses Of The Holy
Led Zeppelin II
Physical Graffiti
In Through The Out Door
Led Zeppelin I
Led Zeppelin III
Presence
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: MondayMorningLunatic on September 08, 2012, 09:36:37 PM
In Through The Out Door is great.  I don't get why people hate on it sometimes.  :P

Because it's not "WHOAAAAHHH WOMAN, GET DOWN ON MY COCK" + E minor pentatonic scale like all the other Led Zeppelin albums.

:lol
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: WebRaider on September 08, 2012, 09:39:12 PM
In Through The Out Door is great.  I don't get why people hate on it sometimes.  :P

Because it's not "WHOAAAAHHH WOMAN, GET DOWN ON MY COCK" + E minor pentatonic scale like all the other Led Zeppelin albums.

:lol


That's definitely the good shit!  :hat
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Pols Voice on September 08, 2012, 10:51:58 PM
1. IV
2. II
3. Physical Graffiti
4. III
5. Houses of the Holy
6. In Through the Out Door
7. I
8. Presence

Although the worst album, Presence does have one of their best songs, Achilles Last Stand.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Nel on September 08, 2012, 11:56:53 PM
Although the worst album, Presence does have one of their best songs, Achilles Last Stand.

Amen, brother. It's one of my top three songs from them, and it really feels wasted being stuck with the rest of Presence.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Unlegit on September 09, 2012, 12:20:32 AM
Definitely agree. I also enjoy Nobody's Fault But Mine, but the rest of the album is very weak for me.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: WebRaider on September 09, 2012, 01:09:48 AM
"Tea For One" is a sadly under respected tune IMO... :sadpanda:
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Mladen on September 09, 2012, 03:16:28 AM
In Through The Out Door is great.  I don't get why people hate on it sometimes.  :P

Because it's not "WHOAAAAHHH WOMAN, GET DOWN ON MY COCK" + E minor pentatonic scale like all the other Led Zeppelin albums.

:lol
Good point.

In through the out door is my 2nd favorite Led Zeppelin album.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Phoenix87x on September 09, 2012, 04:55:39 AM
1. Houses of the Holy
2. Presence
3. I
4. IV
5. Physical Graffiti
6. II
7. III


8. In the the out door (Listened to it maybe twice in my lifetime)
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Mladen on September 09, 2012, 05:09:29 AM
8. In the the out door (Listened to it maybe twice in my lifetime)
Well, there's your problem.  :biggrin:

Kudos for your number one, though.  :tup
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Scard on September 09, 2012, 07:25:35 AM
II
I
Houses of the Holy
IV
III
Presence
Physical Graffiti
In Through the Out Door ("I wanna be your back door man!")
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Nel on September 09, 2012, 09:16:16 AM
And today it says "FOUR", so I'm done being excited.  :lol If it's just that live reunion show, then I don't care.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Mosh on September 09, 2012, 09:25:37 AM
If it's just that live reunion show, then I don't care.
This. I'm not sure why, but that reunion show never interested me.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: jammindude on September 09, 2012, 12:25:24 PM
1. Physical Graffiti
2. Houses of the Holy
3. III
4. I
5. IV
6. II
7. Presence
8. In Through the Out Door
9. Coda
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Kotowboy on September 11, 2012, 12:05:31 PM
If it's just that live reunion show, then I don't care.
This. I'm not sure why, but that reunion show never interested me.

Really ? i've been wanting this DVD since the gig !
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Mosh on September 11, 2012, 05:30:01 PM
I don't know, these one off reunion shows never really appeal to me. I'd much rather see a band reunite and do a tour or two and maybe an album.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: theseoafs on September 13, 2012, 07:24:46 AM
That announcement was today.  Looks like they'll be releasing the one-off show but as a film that will be in theaters.

Not really too excited, to be honest.  The clips I heard in the trailer left me awfully flaccid.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: dbrooks22 on September 13, 2012, 08:16:20 AM
It took me about 20yrs to really get into Presence.  Now it's the only Zep album i want to listen to.  Achilles Last Stand is top 3 all-time Zep songs.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jaq on September 13, 2012, 08:21:07 AM
That announcement was today.  Looks like they'll be releasing the one-off show but as a film that will be in theaters.

Not really too excited, to be honest.  The clips I heard in the trailer left me awfully flaccid.

Well that's just silly. People want that show on DVD/CD, not to sit in a movie theater. This ain't the 70s anymore.  :lol
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: theseoafs on September 13, 2012, 08:21:57 AM
That announcement was today.  Looks like they'll be releasing the one-off show but as a film that will be in theaters.

Not really too excited, to be honest.  The clips I heard in the trailer left me awfully flaccid.

Well that's just silly. People want that show on DVD/CD, not to sit in a movie theater. This ain't the 70s anymore.  :lol

Well it will be released on DVD/CD, of course.  Just after the theatrical release.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jaq on September 13, 2012, 08:25:48 AM
Yeah, but WHEN? If it's the normal DVD release schedule a few months down the line, fine. But I just have this image of the band milking it for all its worth and doing it a couple of years from now  :lol
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: theseoafs on September 13, 2012, 08:27:15 AM
Late November is when the DVD will be released.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jaq on September 13, 2012, 08:36:11 AM
Oh, good. Still not sure why they're bothering with a theatrical release, though.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Orbert on September 13, 2012, 09:31:16 AM
Not everyone has huge TVs and surround sound at home.  Watching a concert video on the big screen in 7.1 surround is much more satisfying, and much closer to an actual concert experience, than playing the DVD and listening to it through the crappy TV speakers.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: LudwigVan on September 13, 2012, 10:22:54 AM
I might pick this up.   

But I'd much prefer they release more live material from their glory days, a la How The West Was Won and BBC Sessions.   Those CDs are outstanding.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: eric42434224 on September 13, 2012, 10:42:36 AM
Zepp II was my first, and will always be my fav.  I did "What is and what should never be" in a lipsynch contest in high school with some friends.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Scard on September 13, 2012, 11:10:40 AM
Zepp II was my first, and will always be my fav.  I did "What is and what should never be" in a lipsynch contest in high school with some friends.

Zep II is my favourite album like, ever.

Can't say I've ever lipsynched What is and What Should Never Be though...
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jaq on September 13, 2012, 10:09:20 PM
Not everyone has huge TVs and surround sound at home.  Watching a concert video on the big screen in 7.1 surround is much more satisfying, and much closer to an actual concert experience, than playing the DVD and listening to it through the crappy TV speakers.

There's also the matter of how widespread a release it is. I'm looking at the Zep site right now, and all of the links to the theaters playing it, thus far, aren't national chains. The closest theater I've found to me running it is about a two hour drive one way, and that chain only has six other locations. Apparently they didn't want to release it via AMC.  :lol

(edit.) It's playing on 1500 screens over 40 countries. That's fairly limited. So, no biggie, I'll just wait for a blu-ray.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Orbert on September 13, 2012, 10:17:27 PM
I'm in the Chicago suburbs, and there's a theater out here that gets some pretty cool/obscure stuff, so we'll probably get it.  The fully restored Ben-Hur got shown here this summer, as did The Godfather and The Godfather, Part II when they were restored last year.  If there's something like that, we get it, but I can't imagine small towns getting that kind of thing.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jaq on September 14, 2012, 09:43:19 AM
The funny thing is, I live in an area of Virginia that has 1.5 million people in it across thirteen cities, two of the largest cities in the state in Norfolk and Virginia Beach-and this movie is actually playing in smaller cities but not here! Go figure.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Orbert on September 14, 2012, 10:14:19 AM
In that case I have no idea how they choose the venues.  Maybe it also takes into account the Led Zeppelin demographic in the area.  You folks in Virginia are all just hicks who listen to Bluegrass and C&W, no way they could fill a theater with Led Zeppelin fans.


(And in case it's not obvious, I'm kidding)
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jaq on September 14, 2012, 01:38:41 PM
That might be WHY it's playing in smaller cities here then! Bluegrass is more rural!  "Hey, that Robert Plant guy did bluegrass with Alison Krauss, let's go see that other band of his!"  :lol
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Orbert on September 14, 2012, 01:48:15 PM
Well, there you go.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: jjrock88 on November 21, 2012, 04:55:22 AM
Wow the band sounds amazing on Celebration Day. Great package too!  Too bad they didn't continue on with a reunion tour and album.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 21, 2012, 05:24:21 AM
Yes... not like they need the money, but they could have made bajillion's!  Excellent album.  Can't wait to spin the DVD.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 21, 2012, 05:29:26 AM
I saw the clip of Black Dog, I think, and the performance was awful. Some of the other clips I saw weren't quite as bad. Video and sound quality seemed top notch though.

Really a shame they didn't tour though. Only one show? What a tease to the fans.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Perpetual Change on November 21, 2012, 06:48:26 AM
Seriously?

Plant sounds awesome on Celebration Day. He's not singing the same notes lots, but he's still "on" and he's still got fantastic timbre. It's amazing, for a band their age. Plant sounds even better singing his recent solo stuff.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 21, 2012, 07:01:37 AM
I just rechecked the clip I was thinking of, and I was a bit harsh on my overall judgement.
Plant sounds ok for a guy his age, but I do personally hate it when a singer doesn't sing the original melodies and doesn't respect the original phrasing. I don't know why they tune down if not to allow the singer to hit the original melodies. And the songs really lose something tuned down a whole step. I just checked out the Rock n Roll clip again, and Plant was actually really good on that one. I wish he was that good on the other clips I saw.

It's mostly Page that I have issue with. He's sounding bumbley even for him. And there are plenty of old guitarists who are still really tight players. He was never a tight player even at his peak, but some of the stuff is really bad. Seriously, close your eyes and listen to this clip-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HgP1BniSu4&feature=plcp

That's like 12 year old Asian girl doing her first webcam recording for Youtube bad. Luckily they've got a killer rhythm section holding that together. I've got no issues with John Paul Jones and Bonham.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Perpetual Change on November 21, 2012, 07:12:04 AM
Oh yeah, Page can be kinda sloppy nowadays.

I just love Plant, though. And he sounds awesome on his solo stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiokMaodFkw

Obviously he might struggle with Zeppelin stuff, but that's understandable imo.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 21, 2012, 07:27:48 AM
Oh yeah, Page can be kinda sloppy nowadays.

I just love Plant, though. And he sounds awesome on his solo stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiokMaodFkw

Obviously he might struggle with Zeppelin stuff, but that's understandable imo.

It's totally understandable. Those original studio vocals are not easy to match, and he's trying to duplicate his vocals from 40 years ago. He does an admirable job for his age, and I was being a bit harsh on him. He's a bit rough singing the Zeppelin stuff, but it's not bad at all under the circumstances.
And even though he was rough in patches on that solo song too, you really hear how much warmer and nicer his tone is when he's able to stick to the lower range that's more natural to him now. I've been meaning to check out some of his solo stuff.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 21, 2012, 07:29:58 AM
No matter, I will always be an uber-fanboi for anything Zeppelin related.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Orbert on November 21, 2012, 07:38:36 AM
Led Zeppelin have never played the songs live like the originals, and there's no way they could do it now.  They've always had an element of improvisation and variation to their performances; check out The Song Remains the Same (the movie) and see how different the songs were even then.

I think Plant and Page both figured out a long time ago that they can do whatever they want and people will love it anyway.  Plant can totally play with the melody and rhythm, change the words themselves, and it's gonna work because he really is that good.  Page takes similar liberties, and as has been pointed out, he's always been kinda sloppy anyway.  They basically just have to show up and people will go nuts, but they put in some good effort anyway, and that's what you get.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: LudwigVan on November 21, 2012, 04:28:11 PM
Even during their heyday in the 70s, Plant had to adjust some of the vocals to account for the fact he just couldn't hit the notes in a live setting.  An example is their live versions of Over the Hills and Far Away.  I can see how it might bother some folks, but I'm fine with it.  Then again, as Zep is my all-time favorite band, I might be the definition of a Zepplelin apologist.

As for Page's sloppiness, he is much more of a 'feel' player than a technician.  There's a manic, frenzied sound to all of his solos, as if they just spontaneously exploded from a tightly packed box. I don't think you can attain that certain spontaneous combustibility in a live show without a bit of loose playing.  Zep live vs. Zep studio are like 2 different entities.  Hard rock bands that can also jam are a rarity these days.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jaq on November 23, 2012, 05:37:43 PM
Finally picked up Celebration Day-the 2CD/Blu Ray combo-which means that after a couple of weeks shy of five years, I can finally get rid of that bootleg I downloaded to tide me over until the official release!  :lol Some random thoughts:

Given the monumental fuck up in Dazed and Confused, I thought the solution was rather clever. They altered the tracks a little bit so, while the band was still playing about three different parts at once, it sounded like they MEANT to be playing a confused section, as if the instrumental section had collapsed under its own weight. I couldn't help but be amused, looking at the CD/DVD booklet, to notice that in the songwriting credits Dazed and Confused was credited to "Jimmy Page, inspired by Jake Holmes."  :lol Guess that's the end result of Holmes finally suing Zep over that one a few years back.

Plant was a LOT better than I remembered him being. Jason Bonham was on all night, and John Paul Jones was his usual rock solid self. Page, well, Page even at his best was always messy-the common phrase used to describe his playing was "his fingers got stuck in the strings." But as Page had suffered a broken finger that delayed the show a few weeks, I'm willing to cut him some slack. It was odd, but to the better, to see and hear him not use the Danelectro on In My Time Of Dying and Kashmir-I've heard so many bootlegs with Page playing those songs on that old black and white Danelectro, but both songs sounded a lot better on different guitars. Especially Kashmir, which I will flat out say is the best version of it the band ever done. It's not the best performance the band has out on DVD-that goes to the Royal Albert Hall show from 1970 from DVD-but it's pretty damn good.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Kotowboy on November 25, 2012, 09:03:14 AM
What was the Dazed and Confused mess up and how did they resolve it ?
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 25, 2012, 09:17:23 AM
I couldn't help but be amused, looking at the CD/DVD booklet, to notice that in the songwriting credits Dazed and Confused was credited to "Jimmy Page, inspired by Jake Holmes."  :lol Guess that's the end result of Holmes finally suing Zep over that one a few years back.

So in other words, plagiarized but settled out of court? :P
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jaq on November 25, 2012, 09:49:52 AM
What was the Dazed and Confused mess up and how did they resolve it ?

The Dazed and Confused mess was at the end of the guitar solo section. Page went back to the riff that ends the instrumental section early while Bonham and Jones were playing the last few bars before it. They didn't really RESOLVE it, but the fix was to make it sound like the end of the instrumental section just dissolves into chaos before picking back up the last verse. It sounds like an unholy mess, but it now sounds like they MEANT it to be an unholy mess. It's hard to explain unless you've heard the original boots and Celebration Day.

I couldn't help but be amused, looking at the CD/DVD booklet, to notice that in the songwriting credits Dazed and Confused was credited to "Jimmy Page, inspired by Jake Holmes."  :lol Guess that's the end result of Holmes finally suing Zep over that one a few years back.

So in other words, plagiarized but settled out of court? :P

That would seem to be the case.That's one of those things everyone's known about that song for decades, that Page flat out stole the credit for it. It was still being credited to just Jimmy Page as recently as the Mothership compilation, so at a guess, yes, Zep settled out of court with Holmes.

A quick search tells me that the suit Holmes filed was dismissed with prejudice in January 2012, presumably because the band settled with him. They pretty much had no choice there, man.  :lol
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 25, 2012, 09:58:13 AM
What was the Dazed and Confused mess up and how did they resolve it ?

The Dazed and Confused mess was at the end of the guitar solo section. Page went back to the riff that ends the instrumental section early while Bonham and Jones were playing the last few bars before it. They didn't really RESOLVE it, but the fix was to make it sound like the end of the instrumental section just dissolves into chaos before picking back up the last verse. It sounds like an unholy mess, but it now sounds like they MEANT it to be an unholy mess. It's hard to explain unless you've heard the original boots and Celebration Day.

This... I think the difference between the boot, and the official release is that on the bootleg the don't even sound on the same beat/time.  With the CD, while still not how it should've been played, they at least sound in time with each other.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jaq on November 25, 2012, 10:03:28 AM
That would be it, yes. Not sure how it was done, but the band is playing in time with each other now, where they weren't on that night. Like I said, it sounds like they MEANT it to be an unholy mess. And at least they didn't try to completely fix it using the rehearsal or overdubs. It's not quite the unvarnished performance, but it's workable. The thing about the mess up is the drum fill that comes at the end of that section was one of the things I'd wondered if Jason Bonham could pull off, and you really can't tell now.  :lol
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Super Dude on December 02, 2012, 01:42:45 PM
Probably preaching to the choir, but on Wikipedia, I saw some interesting statements:

Quote
Rolling Stone magazine described them as "the heaviest band of all time", "the biggest band of the '70s" and "unquestionably one of the most enduring bands in rock history". Similarly, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame stated that the band were "as influential in that decade [the 1970s] as The Beatles were in the prior one".

Now some people here may know I'm a huge fan of the Beatles, and I really get off on the idea of them being *the* rock band of the '60s, and have long searched for such a definitive band for the '70s and so on. A lot of people here at DTF will give you a lot of conflicting answers when you ask them however who they think is the greatest band of "X" decade; I've heard Pink Floyd, Rush, King Crimson, Genesis, and on and on. But would you guys say there's a decent argument to be made for the bolded statement?

Again, counting for the obvious bias, but would you say from an objective and impartial standpoint, one could call Zeppelin the "definitive" '70s rock band, whatever that means?
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jaq on December 02, 2012, 01:55:55 PM
Yes. Without question. They were the biggest band in the world, they made a murderer's row of albums in the 70s, and they're still gathering fans at a rate that a contemporary band would kill to have. Plus, like it or hate it, they're the band that did Stairway to Heaven. That if nothing else insured their place as the band of the 70s.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Pols Voice on December 02, 2012, 02:17:52 PM
I've thought of Led Zeppelin as the Beatles of the 70s before. Of course, their first two albums were released in 1969, though.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jaq on December 02, 2012, 03:29:27 PM
I've thought of Led Zeppelin as the Beatles of the 70s before. Of course, their first two albums were released in 1969, though.

To be fair, the Beatles' last two albums came out in 1970.  :lol
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Super Dude on December 02, 2012, 03:34:29 PM
Nope, just one of 'em. Abbey Road was 1969.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on December 02, 2012, 03:37:24 PM
FYI, Robert Plant, Jimmy Page and John Paul Jones are going to be on Letterman tomorrow night.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: King Postwhore on December 02, 2012, 03:40:17 PM
FYI, Robert Plant, Jimmy Page and John Paul Jones are going to be on Letterman tomorrow night.

Yeah , I'm shocked about this.  DVR baby!  I'm guessing Jason Bonham is drumming.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Ben_Jamin on December 02, 2012, 03:41:41 PM
FYI, Robert Plant, Jimmy Page and John Paul Jones are going to be on Letterman tomorrow night.

I just saw that too.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jaq on December 02, 2012, 03:47:13 PM
Letterman's totally going to ask Plant about a reunion tour. I just know he will.  :lol
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: jjrock88 on December 02, 2012, 08:52:36 PM
Was it just an interview or are they performing?
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on December 02, 2012, 09:17:26 PM
The info on the cable guide indicated that it would be the three of them and "insert name here" performing.  Can't remember who it was.  So, not certain.
Title: Light fuse and get away...
Post by: black_biff_stadler on December 02, 2012, 09:22:20 PM
I hope it's Slipknot's Joey Jordison.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on December 03, 2012, 06:16:55 AM
Paloma Faith, whoever that is.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Mladen on December 03, 2012, 11:00:25 AM
I can't wait to see this on youtube.  :metal
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: WebRaider on December 04, 2012, 05:32:09 AM
Have enjoyed Letterman in the past and I'll always love LZ but I was very disappointed in this interview. I mean I know Letterman isn't exactly the environment for journalistic breakthroughs but when you have those three guys together for any interview you best have your shit together.

The "best" question to me went nowhere fast and that was did Zeppelin and the other bands of that era The Beatles, The Who, etc. etc. know each other, spend time together or did they ever get a chance to work together. Answered by JPJ with "How many no's do you want?". Then they just said they were all too busy or into their own things.

Outside of that the only other thing we got to hear was they met Elvis and he had a lot of chicks. lol

Hope I didn't spoil it for anyone but this interview was quite awkward and really didn't go anywhere near where it could have considering all three of them were there together. Still cool to see the three of them together.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Orbert on December 04, 2012, 07:26:17 AM
That's disappointing.  Even though I read twice about how they were going to be on Letterman, I still forgot to record it, and now I don't feel so bad.  I like Led Zeppelin a lot, but I'd rather not even bother with a lame talk show appearance than watch it and be disappointed by how lame it is.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: black_biff_stadler on December 04, 2012, 07:46:53 AM
Here's the interview for anyone who wants to see it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0hbtVIfMgs
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Mladen on December 04, 2012, 09:00:33 AM
That was enjoyable, there were a few funny bits in there, which is what I want a talk show interview to be like. JPJ especially surprised him with his jokes, given that he's quite a shy and quiet guy. I fairly like Letterman, but I kinda wish Conan O'Brien had the chance to interview them.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Orbert on December 04, 2012, 11:37:56 AM
Okay that was more entertaining than I thought it would be.  Not a waste of time at all.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: TioJorge on December 04, 2012, 12:29:50 PM
I mainly just wanted to see my name five times in a row on the recent posts but I really love this band and No Quarter is still probably my most beloved piece of music by these guys.

P.S. Fuck the Tool version.

P.P.S. DAMN IT, SOMEONELIKEHIM!!
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: black_biff_stadler on December 04, 2012, 12:55:03 PM
P.S. Fuck the Tool version.

Yeah. Tool/APC are vomitingly horrible at cover songs. All they ever do is take a few ideas from the original and shoehorn it into sounding like any old song by Tool/APC. Imagine was an audio abortion as well. It's weird too because I like Tool a good bit and don't mind APC at all but it almost comes off as a sign of Maynard being so full of himself/his writing that he thought the originals would sound better as Tool/APC songs.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: TioJorge on December 04, 2012, 12:59:41 PM
Couldn't have said it better. I love Tool myself, but rarely have I enjoyed a cover song of theirs.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Dream Team on December 04, 2012, 01:10:57 PM
Led Zep will be featured on The Kennedy Center honors on Dec 26th (was taped earlier this week). A bunch of artists covering their songs, with Ann & Nancy Wilson closing the evening with STH with Jason Bonham on drums  :metal.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Orbert on December 04, 2012, 01:35:44 PM
They should've had Ann & Nancy doing one of the more rocking songs.  Heart always did great Led Zeppelin covers.  Their version of "Rock and Roll" smokes.  "Stairway to Heaven" doesn't let loose until the end.  I'm sure they did a great job (we'll see).
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on December 04, 2012, 01:44:12 PM
I saw Heart do "Going to California" live, when they were on tour with Cheap Trick and Journey.  WOW.  So good.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: WebRaider on December 04, 2012, 01:54:18 PM
Sorry I didn't find the Letterman interview with LZ more interesting like you guys. I never though it was a waste of time, I just expected a lot more considering you have all freaking 3 members on the show at once and very little was covered and the funny bits were just awkward (look at the facial expressions particularly from Page and JPJ). I usually really enjoy Letterman but he didn't really seem to have much prepared to talk to them about because the topics were very random.

Anyway it was cool to see them together on the show and I do recommend people to watch it if they like LZ.

Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jaq on December 11, 2012, 07:20:18 PM
The release of Celebration Day has re-ignited my love of live Zeppelin. I finally got my hands on some of the 1973 German tour bootlegs, which Zep fans have typically considered to be one of their best runs of shows ever, and my god, they're RIGHT. Page in particular is on fire throughout those dates, probably the last time he had the same fire in his playing as he did in 1969-70, when he was damn near untouchable. I completed my collection of 1975 soundboards at last-I don't know what it is, but I love the 1975 North American tour a lot more than most Zep fans seem to. Except maybe the 40 plus minute  versions of Dazed and Confused that popped up on that tour. Oddly I have zero problem with the 30 minute versions of No Quarter.  :rollin

And all this listening to Zep has firmly cemented In My Time Of Dying as my favorite Zep song. Lord that kicks ass up one side and down the other.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Zydar on December 12, 2012, 05:06:28 AM
I have to confess my newfound love for this band. Since I grew up on classic rock it's very strange that Led Zeppelin hasn't been a part of my upbringing. Aside from a few tracks on their compilations, they haven't really interested me that much. So I finally decided to check out their discography last week. Wow, they finally clicked for me. And hard. Their music is so varied, and it shows from album to album. The bluesy stuff of their debut, the more rocking 2nd album, the folky acoustic stuff on III etc. It's hard for me to decide on a favourite album yet though, some days it's Physical Graffiti and some days it's III or II. I've always thought that IV was their most classic album, but I would rank it somewhere in the middle right now.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 12, 2012, 05:28:31 AM
Not a bad album in the bunch. Presence took some time to grow on me, but that too is a good one - an amazingly, the only album to reach Billboard #1 position in the day.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: jjrock88 on December 12, 2012, 07:23:53 AM
It seems like Celebration Day has ignited a lot of people's interest in the band. I was blown away by this release.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: bobs23 on December 12, 2012, 07:56:10 AM
My only complaint about Celebration Day is the mastering on the CD's. For me, it's unlistenable due to the overbearing bass. While the 5.1 mix on the bluray sounds fine. Just need to find the time to be able to re-eq so I can listen on the go.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: WebRaider on December 12, 2012, 08:31:54 AM
I have to confess my newfound love for this band. Since I grew up on classic rock it's very strange that Led Zeppelin hasn't been a part of my upbringing. Aside from a few tracks on their compilations, they haven't really interested me that much. So I finally decided to check out their discography last week. Wow, they finally clicked for me. And hard. Their music is so varied, and it shows from album to album. The bluesy stuff of their debut, the more rocking 2nd album, the folky acoustic stuff on III etc. It's hard for me to decide on a favourite album yet though, some days it's Physical Graffiti and some days it's III or II. I've always thought that IV was their most classic album, but I would rank it somewhere in the middle right now.



Very glad to hear this Zydar! Awesome to hear you point out right away one of my favorite things about the band. Their varied approach and how they excel at each different aspect always amazed me. They brought so many things to the table and managed to arrange them and perform them superbly.  :tup
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Rattlehead on December 12, 2012, 08:34:54 AM
Probably my favorite band of all time... don't listen to them nearly as much any more but pretty much every song of theirs makes me feel nostalgic because I was obsessed with them during my classic rock phase in high school, good memories.  :)

No Quarter has always been a personal favorite  :metal
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: jammindude on May 07, 2013, 05:20:41 PM
I *JUST* picked up Celebration Day yesterday.   I haven't watched the BluRay yet, but I'm really impressed at the performance on CD.   The band was just on fire.    Plant's performance had me a bit  :huh: at times.   There were moments when I was like  :hefdaddy and then there were other moments when I was all like  :yeahright .

All in all, I'm really floored...especially since it had been over 25 years since they had played a FULL set together.   And the setlist was *PERFECT*!!!  (well, almost.  I would have traded TSRTS for The Rain Song, or maybe (if you wanted to have all the albums represented) In the Light)
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Orbert on May 07, 2013, 09:08:28 PM
I think it was Jimmy Page who once said that, even though he loves "In the Light", they could never play it live.  There's just too much going on in the song for them to do justice to it.  And sadly, I think he's right.  It's one of my favorite Led Zeppelin songs, but they would just butcher it live, so it's probably better this way.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: masterthes on May 08, 2013, 08:29:49 AM
Kind of like The Beatles playing A Day in the Life or Tomorrow Never Knows live
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: KevShmev on May 08, 2013, 08:32:12 AM
I know some people don't like it when newer bands use backing tracks on some songs that have too much going on, making it impossible to do it all live with the guys they have on stage, but it's important to remember that when this was the case back in the day, the songs simply didn't get played, with In the Light being a good example.  Thinking of it that way, backing tracks on occasion don't seem so bad now, do they?
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Orbert on May 08, 2013, 10:00:00 AM
No, backing tracks in a live setting are still a horrible idea.  There is no requirement to be able to reproduce onstage everything you've created in the studio.  Studio and live are two different media.

A lot of songs can be played live and sound just like they did on the album, or "close enough" because the arrangements allow for that.  That's fine, and I'd guess that it's true for most songs by most bands.  But there are those studio masterpieces where the whole idea was to create something amazing and complex, and being able to perform it in real time was not a consideration.  "In the Light" is such a song.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Podaar on May 08, 2013, 10:09:29 AM
I really enjoyed reading this thread.

Led Zeppelin's music has been the sound track of my life. The music was great and their larger-than-life persona was really fun to grow up with. Mid-night showings of 'The Song Remains the Same' while my girlfriend sat transfixed to Robert Plant and rubbed her knees together. Summers playing Frisbee an Hackey-Sack in the park while Houses of the Holy blared from our open car doors. Man, nothing was better. Even today, I can relive the feeling when 'Black Country Woman' starts to play and the temperature outside is above 70 degrees.

Anyway, for all the posters who mention having trouble getting into Led Zeppelin III, I have just the formula. Build a sound proof, ventilated, carpet lined, pot smoking room under the stairs of your parents house. Install a black light. Get toasted with your mates and put on Led III while your Cockatoo dances on top of your bong.

Works every time.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Mladen on May 08, 2013, 11:46:55 AM
All in all, I'm really floored...especially since it had been over 25 years since they had played a FULL set together.   And the setlist was *PERFECT*!!!  (well, almost.  I would have traded TSRTS for The Rain Song, or maybe (if you wanted to have all the albums represented) In the Light)
Physical graffiti was represented on that live album with three songs, actually. The only album that wasn't represented is In through the out door, which is one of my favorites.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: jingle.boy on May 08, 2013, 12:25:53 PM
I really enjoyed reading this thread.

Led Zeppelin's music has been the sound track of my life. The music was great and their larger-than-life persona was really fun to grow up with. Mid-night showings of 'The Song Remains the Same' while my girlfriend sat transfixed to Robert Plant and rubbed her knees together. Summers playing Frisbee an Hackey-Sack in the park while Houses of the Holy blared from our open car doors. Man, nothing was better. Even today, I can relive the feeling when 'Black Country Woman' starts to play and the temperature outside is above 70 degrees.

Anyway, for all the posters who mention having trouble getting into Led Zeppelin III, I have just the formula. Build a sound proof, ventilated, carpet lined, pot smoking room under the stairs of your parents house. Install a black light. Get toasted with your mates and put on Led III while your Cockatoo dances on top of your bong.

Works every time.

And replace Hats off to (Roy) Harper with Hey Hey What Can I Do. 

Seriously, if that was the case, I think this would be my second favorite album of all time.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: jammindude on May 08, 2013, 04:01:24 PM
All in all, I'm really floored...especially since it had been over 25 years since they had played a FULL set together.   And the setlist was *PERFECT*!!!  (well, almost.  I would have traded TSRTS for The Rain Song, or maybe (if you wanted to have all the albums represented) In the Light)
Physical graffiti was represented on that live album with three songs, actually. The only album that wasn't represented is In through the out door, which is one of my favorites.

Brain farted....I meant In the Evening...

I was just wondering which one would be the best to represent that album.   It's my least favorite, but still good.   At this point, it's really splitting hairs because it's a fantastic setlist.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: DebraKadabra on May 09, 2013, 02:32:03 AM
Easy - Fool in the Rain.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Mladen on May 09, 2013, 03:46:33 AM
Brain farted....I meant In the Evening...

I was just wondering which one would be the best to represent that album.   It's my least favorite, but still good.   At this point, it's really splitting hairs because it's a fantastic setlist.
Oh, OK then. I think In the evening would have been a great choice, since it's the most rockin' one on the album and would most likely fit with the rest of the set.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jaq on May 09, 2013, 10:13:07 AM
If they'd chosen to represent In Through The Out Door, they probably would've played In The Evening. They played it at Knebworth and on the 80 European tour dates, and the only other songs off the album they played, if memory serves, were Hot Dog and All My Love. And since Page reportedly hates All My Love, and Hot Dog is kind of silly, In The Evening would likely have won out. But I had no problem with the 02 set list...well, okay, I've never really been a fan of Black Dog, but I get why they played it.  :lol
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: masterthes on May 09, 2013, 10:20:27 AM
Have they ever done Carouselambra live?
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jaq on May 09, 2013, 10:41:55 AM
No. Rumor has it that Page, Jones, and Jason Bonham, when they were playing together just after the O2 show, rehearsed it, but since Plant wasn't interested in touring and nothing else happened, that was it. I believe they might have rehearsed in back in the old days as well, but it was never played live back then either.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: jingle.boy on May 09, 2013, 11:10:50 AM
Have they ever done Carouselambra live?

One of my favorite Zeppelin tracks.  Definitely the highlight of In Through The Out Door
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: masterthes on May 09, 2013, 11:16:21 AM
It's personally my least favorite of the big three epics (my favorite would be In My Time), but it's still a good song
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: kirksnosehair on May 09, 2013, 11:17:10 AM
I joined a classic rock band (playing drums) at the place where I take piano lessons and one of the first songs we started working on yesterday was "The Rover"   :hat


We also messed around a bit with "Heartbreaker" and "The Lemon Song"


FUN!!  (https://www.kirksnosehair.com/Portals/0/images/smilies/band.gif)
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Podaar on May 09, 2013, 12:35:50 PM
... one of the first songs we started working on yesterday was "The Rover"   :hat

Bum - - BUM - - - - bum-bum--bum--BUM-budadadadaDA-[heavy guitar]

Ah, "The Rover". Acid rock at it's finest.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: kirksnosehair on May 09, 2013, 12:54:47 PM
Yeah, it's a fun tune to play on the skins too  :hat
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on June 01, 2013, 12:44:05 PM
Put In Through The Out Door on for the first time in a long time and now I remember why this is my fav Zep album :metal


Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: ytserush on June 02, 2013, 08:17:39 PM
Have they ever done Carouselambra live?

One of my favorite Zeppelin tracks.  Definitely the highlight of In Through The Out Door

One of them anyway. (I love the album myself, though that's likely a minority opinion)

I continually wonder what the next album would have been like.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jaq on June 02, 2013, 08:40:18 PM
Rumor has it that Page and Bonham were leaning towards a more guitar driven, heavier album than In Through The Out Door, but what they meant by that, assuming that was even true, remains conjecture. Of course, had Bonham lived, Page was blowing his talent out with heroin by then, so god only knows what music would have resulted.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on June 02, 2013, 09:03:33 PM
Meh I love the direction of ITTOD. I like that it is a bit more keyboard driven...


Then again I love the heavier stuff too so that would have been cool to hear
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Orbert on June 02, 2013, 09:52:23 PM
I read somewhere that the reason why it was so keyboard heavy was because Page and Bonham were too busy doing smack and drinking to work on the album, so JPJ ended up doing most of it.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on June 02, 2013, 10:10:13 PM
Same
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jaq on June 03, 2013, 07:46:39 AM
Pretty much; Plant and Jones would come in and do a bunch of work, and then Page and Bonham would show up separately. Which is why the album is so Jones driven, the only Zeppelin album to be so, because he was the main contributor.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Orbert on June 03, 2013, 08:34:55 AM
It sounds to me like even the great Led Zeppelin (and I don't mean that sarcastically -- they're one of my favorite bands) was having some problems toward the end there. 

I know that the whole band doesn't have to be there while each individual member records their parts, but usually there's a certain amount of "hanging around the studio" while it's going on, just because they're a band and enjoy hanging out with each other, and also because there can still be some give-and-take and suggestions about how things could be played, even at that stage.

When the various members of the band don't even bother to show up on days when they're not recording something, to me that's not a good sign.  It's kinda like hanging around your workplace before or after your shift, or even on a day off, just because you like the place and like hanging out with the people there, even if you're not working.  Nowadays, I wouldn't even think of going in to the office if I didn't have to, if there wasn't something I had to do there.  It's just my job.  But I like making music.  I like hanging with the guys in my band, and if we were cutting an album, I'd hang out and enjoy the process, even if I'm just watching and listening to the other guys lay tracks.  When your band becomes "just a job" and you don't bother hanging around when you're not "working", something has been lost.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jaq on June 03, 2013, 08:47:40 AM
I've long believed that Zeppelin had reached the end of the road anyway, and likely would have either broken up or taken a long break by 1981. They'd gone through so much already-the late 70s were just one disaster after another, especially for Robert Plant-that if they'd gotten through their planned 1980 US tour without Page blowing up, I really think they would have gone their separate ways, if only for a little while. Bonham's death just made the decision inevitable. It's nice to go through "what might have been" moments, but I honestly think a break up, and possibly an acrimonious one, was coming.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: jingle.boy on June 04, 2013, 12:59:35 PM
If they had hung on any longer, would they be AS legendary as they are?  I hate when bands hang on well past their prime just because they were once awesome (Kiss, Halen come to mind).
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Orbert on June 04, 2013, 01:45:09 PM
Good point.  As has been said, they probably weren't going to go much longer anyway without a break, either temporary or permanent, and John Bonham's death just forced the issue.  Knowing what we know now about the state of the band at the time, it's no real shock that they just looked at the situation and decided that Led Zeppelin was over.

And it was a good run.  I still put on In Through the Out Door from time to time.  I'm not as big on Presence, but everything up through Physical Graffiti is solid.  So you could say that they went out, maybe not on top, but on a high note.  That's definitely preferable to continuing to the point of mocking themselves.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: KevShmev on June 05, 2013, 07:12:44 AM
I definitely like In Through the Out Door more than Presence, and I have always thought that I like the former way more than most seem to, but having said that, I still can't say it is better than any of the first six albums.  Fool in the Rain is still one of my favorite LZ songs, though; I love that song.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: ytserush on June 06, 2013, 09:17:09 PM
I've long believed that Zeppelin had reached the end of the road anyway, and likely would have either broken up or taken a long break by 1981. They'd gone through so much already-the late 70s were just one disaster after another, especially for Robert Plant-that if they'd gotten through their planned 1980 US tour without Page blowing up, I really think they would have gone their separate ways, if only for a little while. Bonham's death just made the decision inevitable. It's nice to go through "what might have been" moments, but I honestly think a break up, and possibly an acrimonious one, was coming.

This seems to have been the majority opinion over the years.  I actually respect Plant for his view in the years following the end although those first few records after didn't do much to stop fans from wanting him to play the Zep tunes.
I think Fate of Nations is really where his solo career began to shine but the albums before that were not horrible by any stretch.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Kotowboy on June 07, 2013, 07:03:23 AM
If they had hung on any longer, would they be AS legendary as they are?  I hate when bands hang on well past their prime just because they were once awesome (Kiss, Halen come to mind).

Metallica is pretty much this personified. They should have quit after Jason left.

Actually they should have hung it up after the S&M album. It would have been the ultimate send off.

Plus - no drama with Jason. No Therapy. No St. Anger.No Napster lawsuit.  No 2004 world tour where they could barely play. No Clipping

controversies. etc. etc.

It seems all their worst ideas were after jason quit the band. :lol
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Limelight on June 08, 2013, 04:18:39 AM
It seems all their worst ideas were after jason quit the band. :lol

Lulu says hi  :lol
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Kotowboy on June 08, 2013, 11:26:41 AM
It seems all their worst ideas were after jason quit the band. :lol

Lulu says hi  :lol
Which came after Jason quit the band...
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Zook on June 08, 2013, 08:31:54 PM
I grew up with Led Zeppelin but just two weeks ago I discovered that Heartbreaker and Living Loving Maid were actually two songs. They were only ever played back to back on the radio so I thought it was one song.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Nel on June 08, 2013, 10:03:15 PM
I grew up with Led Zeppelin but just two weeks ago I discovered that Heartbreaker and Living Loving Maid were actually two songs. They were only ever played back to back on the radio so I thought it was one song.

When I first realized that, I re-ripped the album into iTunes with them as one track for my shuffle playlist.  :lol Just can't listen to one without the other.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: ytserush on June 13, 2013, 07:31:01 PM
I grew up with Led Zeppelin but just two weeks ago I discovered that Heartbreaker and Living Loving Maid were actually two songs. They were only ever played back to back on the radio so I thought it was one song.

When I first realized that, I re-ripped the album into iTunes with them as one track for my shuffle playlist.  :lol Just can't listen to one without the other.

I used to see a cover band (The Nerds) years ago that one only play Heartbreaker and would explain that very thing and refused to continue. It was pretty funny since most people were expecting it.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Nel on June 16, 2013, 08:32:10 AM
I'm sure in the time they took to explain that, they could have played the other song.  :lol
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jaq on June 16, 2013, 08:56:29 AM
Zep played Heartbreaker an awful lot, but if memory serves they never played Living Loving Maid for a simple reason: Plant hated it. Which makes the two songs being played together forever on classic rock radio endlessly hilarious.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Orbert on June 16, 2013, 12:50:40 PM
I'm sure in the time they took to explain that, they could have played the other song.  :lol

Or they could finish playing "Heartbreaker" then go "Thank you. We'd like to play another song by Led Zeppelin, also from the second album..." then jump right into "Living Loving Maid".  Just because.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: masterthes on June 16, 2013, 04:09:08 PM
It's kind of the same with Brain Damage and Eclipse, or We Will Rock You and We Are The Champions. Cannot play one without the other
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Dream Team on July 03, 2013, 07:09:27 AM
So anyone catching the "Heartbreaker" tour going on now, where Jason Bonham's band opens for Heart, and then they combine for 6 LZ songs as an encore? Ann still sounds freakin' amazing. Shows have been getting great reviews.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on July 03, 2013, 07:24:36 AM
Huh... I figured that they were going to be doing something like that when I saw that they were going to tour together. Cool.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on August 20, 2013, 05:30:28 PM
:bump:


Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Kotowboy on August 20, 2013, 05:31:59 PM
:bump: :bump: :bump: :bump: :bump: :bump: :bump: :bump: :bump: :bump: :bump: :bump:


Led Zep IV  :tup
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on August 20, 2013, 05:35:11 PM
Today is Robert Plant's Bday apparently. Caught them playing two of my favs on the radio. Since I've Been Loving You and You Shook Me :heart


I love love love SIBLY
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Kotowboy on August 20, 2013, 05:55:03 PM
Is that the one with a descending guitar melody over a pedal note ?

Might be dazed & confused.

Have to check em out :P
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: PixelDream on August 20, 2013, 06:12:40 PM
As a matter of fact, I listened to III today while not having listened to Zep for a good while, and it's Plant's birthday today.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: jingle.boy on August 20, 2013, 09:35:40 PM
As a matter of fact, I listened to III today while not having listened to Zep for a good while, and it's Plant's birthday today.

It's ALWAYS a good time to listen to Zeppelin.  If not for Hats off to (Roy) Harper, III would be my top Zeppelin album.  Replace it with the Immigrant Song b-side (Hey Hey, What Can I Do?), and it would be hands down.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Mladen on August 21, 2013, 03:41:07 AM
Hats off is good, and III is a great album overall. I think I even like it better than II, maybe even IV.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: ytserush on August 24, 2013, 07:32:12 PM
I was just thinking earlier today about what it must have been like when the first Led Zeppelin album came out and how unabashedly primal it is.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: LudwigVan on October 15, 2013, 11:54:56 PM
I was recently at a downtown Manhattan dive bar called The Patriot shooting some pool with unsavory types and inhaling pitchers of cheap beer when some genius hit the jukebox for a string of Zep tunes. I thought I'd died and gone to heaven.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Phoenix87x on October 16, 2013, 05:59:39 AM
And on the subject of III, its also got Since I've been loving you, which is probably a top 5 LZ song for me.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Zook on October 16, 2013, 02:09:48 PM
Led Zeppelin is awesome.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Mister Gold on October 16, 2013, 02:22:54 PM
And on the subject of III, its also got Since I've been loving you, which is probably a top 5 LZ song for me.

Probably my all-time favorite LZ song. It's either that or No Quarter.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Phoenix87x on October 16, 2013, 02:25:37 PM
Led Zeppelin is awesome.

QFT
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: TAC on October 16, 2013, 02:35:06 PM
I was recently at a downtown Manhattan dive bar called The Patriot shooting some pool with unsavory types and inhaling pitchers of cheap beer when some genius hit the jukebox for a string of Zep tunes. I thought I'd died and gone to heaven.

Who are you? Please report to the Newb thread!
 :biggrin:
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: LudwigVan on October 16, 2013, 10:00:51 PM
I was recently at a downtown Manhattan dive bar called The Patriot shooting some pool with unsavory types and inhaling pitchers of cheap beer when some genius hit the jukebox for a string of Zep tunes. I thought I'd died and gone to heaven.

Who are you? Please report to the Newb thread!
 :biggrin:

I'm just an old DTF fogey who, not to brag, has a 1st pressing of Led Zeppelin III which has the words 'Do what thou wilt' etched into the vinyl (as instructed by Jimmy Page).  :)
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Orbert on October 16, 2013, 10:15:50 PM
Wow, I have a really old copy of Led Zeppelin III, but I've never heard about the etching.  I should look.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: LudwigVan on October 16, 2013, 10:35:13 PM
Wow, I have a really old copy of Led Zeppelin III, but I've never heard about the etching.  I should look.

Check it! A copy in good condition fetches a decent price on eBay. Not that I'd ever sell it.

'The first pressings of the album included the phrases "So mote be it" (not to be confused with "So mote it be".) Then later on included the phrase "Do what thou wilt", inscribed on the lacquer itself by engineer Terry Manning during the final mastering process.[citation needed] This phrase is identical to one in the core tenet of Aleister Crowley's philosophy of Thelema: "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law. Love is the law, love under will. There is no law beyond do what thou wilt." But it also the same as a portion of a variant of the Wiccan Rede. Page was a scholar of Crowley's work, once owning a private collection of Crowley manuscripts, artwork and other ephemera, and in the 1970s even bought one of his residences, Boleskine House on the shores of Loch Ness in Scotland.'
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Tom Bombadil on October 16, 2013, 11:16:30 PM
Led Zep was my first ever favorite band, and although I admit that I killed most of their songs through ridiculous overplaying, they will always hold a special spot in my heart.  :heart
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Accelerando on October 17, 2013, 12:20:09 AM
There was a gentlemen at the grocery store today who got a call in the same isle as me and his ring tone was the sick riff from Bring It On Home. I had to go over and shake his hand.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Orbert on October 17, 2013, 07:17:11 AM
That's pretty cool!  :lol
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: ytserush on October 18, 2013, 07:08:54 PM
I was recently at a downtown Manhattan dive bar called The Patriot shooting some pool with unsavory types and inhaling pitchers of cheap beer when some genius hit the jukebox for a string of Zep tunes. I thought I'd died and gone to heaven.

That doesn't ever happen anymore...even in New York.

Closest I've come to that in the last few years was watching my son's friend play a Zeppelin show at School of Rock a few years back.

Maybe it's just me, but I never really like to listen to Zeppelin alone. One of those bands that should be enjoyed with friends.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Anguyen92 on December 13, 2013, 11:30:39 AM
Bumping this thread.

Well, I've tried doing the Zeppathon where you listen to all of Led Zeppelin's studio albums in one sitting.  Sadly, I stopped at Presence, yesterday, since it was so late, but I'm listening to the final two right now.  Along the way, I've grown to really understand and appreciate and enjoy some of the deeper cuts of the catalog.

Also, In Through the Out Door was a good album, especially considering what the band was going through at that time.

Edit: Oh and yeah, Led Zeppelin's 1st six albums are out on Spotify, right now, while the rest will come in the upcoming days.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on December 13, 2013, 10:22:11 PM
I do Zep A Thons a lot at work. I usually skip presence though.

In Through The Out Door has got to be my fav :metal
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 14, 2013, 08:43:13 PM
I do Zep A Thons a lot at work. I usually skip presence though.

In Through The Out Door has got to be my fav :metal

You're doing it wrong. Presence is far too underrated.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on December 15, 2013, 12:31:31 AM
I love Achilles... Just never got into anything else.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Bolsters on December 15, 2013, 12:49:26 AM
Achilles Last Stand might be my favourite Zeppelin song ever. Hard to say for certain though.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on December 15, 2013, 12:55:39 AM
I would love to see Iron Maiden perform that track. No one can say that wouldn't be epic!
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Nel on December 15, 2013, 01:52:21 AM
Achilles Last Stand might be my favourite Zeppelin song ever. Hard to say for certain though.

Same. Which is funny because I've never been able to get into the rest of that album.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Orbert on December 15, 2013, 07:01:25 AM
Presence is a tough one.  "Achilles Last Stand" is great, and I've always admired how they can keep up that driving, frantic pace for ten minutes, but after all these years, I'm finally starting to find it a bit repetitive, a bit overlong.

As others have said, the rest of the album is harder to get into.  It has a very "dark" feel to it.  I've always thought that that was by design.  "The Object" which is the focal point of all the pictures, seems to represent the presence of darkness in our everyday lives.  All these happy pictures of people, and "The Object" -- literally dark and twisted -- is just... there.

"For Your Life", "Nobody's Fault But Mine" and "Tea For One" are all oppressive, like Zep let their dark, brooding side take over and maybe gain a bit too much power.  The lighter songs, "Royal Orleans", "Candy Store Rock" and "Hots on for Nowhere" break things up, but overall don't seem to quite do enough to alleviate the feel of the album.

Led Zeppelin have some great songs that are heavy and dark, but Presence is what happens when you get too much of one kind of music on the same album.  I'm sure it resonates with some people, but it's always been one of my least favorites from their catalogue.  By time I got to it, my life was starting to look a bit less bleak, and Presence made me feel like maybe I was outgrowing Led Zeppelin, or something.  I wasn't; I just wasn't in a mental frame to appreciate the album, and really haven't been since.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 15, 2013, 08:50:54 AM
Hard to believe that Presence was their only album to chart up to #1.  Took me a long time to appreciate the album.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: ytserush on December 24, 2013, 03:36:32 PM
Hard to believe that Presence was their only album to chart up to #1.  Took me a long time to appreciate the album.

It's been a slow burner for me too. I quite like it although it's been a while since I put it on.

The last Zeppelin album I listened to was the BBC Sessions from about a month ago.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Orbert on December 24, 2013, 04:15:54 PM
Inspired by this thread, I'm playing Presence now.  We'll see how it feels.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: LudwigVan on December 24, 2013, 06:33:02 PM
As much as I love Jimmy Page, I think Presence suffers from too much Page and not enough of the other 3 members. By this time, they weren't really writing together anymore, especially with Plant being out of commission from a car accident.  It's the closest thing to a Jimmy Page solo album in Zep's discography. Still a good album though.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: davidolson22 on December 24, 2013, 07:12:46 PM
Let me start by saying I love Led Zeppelin, so much so that I have basically overheard all their songs, and I want to find new Led Zeppelin songs to listen to.

Because of that, I have this reoccurring dream that I don't have one of their albums, and it's this jazz influenced album with really long songs that wasn't well received by the public. Damn, I want to track that album down so bad. I just wish it existed any place outside my head.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Orbert on December 24, 2013, 11:45:39 PM
Well, Presence was good, about the same as I remember it.  Anything by Led Zeppelin is at least good, much of it is great.  There wasn't anything I felt the urge to skip or anything like that, and of course some songs even have parts that are kinda catchy.  It just doesn't thrill me.  It's "only" good, not great.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Mladen on December 25, 2013, 03:59:08 AM
I love Presence, it's probably their heaviest album and has a fine balance of slow, dark songs, and slightly more cheerful upbeat tunes. I still have a problem with For your life, though, it really doesn't do anything for me...
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Lolzeez on December 25, 2013, 05:46:33 AM
Achilles Last Stand is my fav Led Zeppelin track even though I never listen to LZ anymore.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: jingle.boy on June 10, 2014, 11:26:09 AM
Zeppelin I, II, and III remasters are up on Spotify.  Gonna be getting these discs pretty damned quick (perhaps a Father's Day gift).  This is how they were meant to be listened to.

 :hat
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: goo-goo on June 10, 2014, 11:50:20 AM
How's the quality of the remasters? Are they worth getting?
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: TioJorge on June 10, 2014, 11:51:34 AM
No other song on this planet will make me as giddy as Tangerine. Something about it will always give my soul a boner. I just wanted to say that.  :tup :hat :-*
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: jingle.boy on June 10, 2014, 11:57:20 AM
How's the quality of the remasters? Are they worth getting?

My opinion may be biased, but I'm loving them so far.  Quite a noticeable difference, IMO.  Plus, the bonus discs (live tracks on I; 'rough mixes' on II and III) make it intriguing enough for me.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jaq on June 10, 2014, 01:34:36 PM
I just have the first one, but it's an improvement in sound quality and Led Zep live in 1969 is always good time, though there's some better soundboards they could have put out. The alternate takes on the LZIII bonus disc, I hear, are interesting enough to make that worth buying.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Orbert on February 22, 2015, 10:33:00 PM
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Yeah, yeah, whatever.  Had to share. 

Louisville Leopard Percussionists -- A bunch of kids covering Led Zeppelin on all percussion. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYuOZnAqQCY)
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Podaar on February 23, 2015, 02:04:05 PM
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Yeah, yeah, whatever.  Had to share. 

Louisville Leopard Percussionists -- A bunch of kids covering Led Zeppelin on all percussion. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYuOZnAqQCY)

That was totally, WICKED! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acYDNlMYAaI)
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: ytserush on February 23, 2015, 05:26:57 PM
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Yeah, yeah, whatever.  Had to share. 

Louisville Leopard Percussionists -- A bunch of kids covering Led Zeppelin on all percussion. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYuOZnAqQCY)

Damn dude.  I just watched that a few hours ago.  How did you find out about it.  I caught it on CBS news.  Their cover of Crazy Train is....interesting too.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Orbert on February 23, 2015, 05:59:33 PM
Someone linked it on Facebook.  It was too awesome not to share.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Fluffy Lothario on July 04, 2015, 05:35:26 AM
Bump.

I imagine this is a topic that most people who hear about it shrug off without much thought, but I was wondering what your opinions are about the whole Jimmy Page/Lori Maddox business.

If you haven't heard about it: Page was involved with Maddox, a 14 year old when he met her, for several years during the early 70s. He seems to have realised their relationship was wrong and did what he could to keep it under wraps, to the extent that, by her own admission, Maddox was, although totally smitten with him and willingly involved, apparently being held/contained/imprisoned (depending how strong language you want to use) to some extent.

I realise there are tons of reasons to argue this falls in a grey area - she was a groupie, i.e. one of countless girls who was intentionally seeking out rock stars in disregard of her own age; the whole thing was consensual; that was part of the culture and the era and the way we think about it now didn't really factor into it the same way back then; other rock stars did it, etc.

But I've had trouble listening to Led Zep and not having this come to mind since hearing about it.

Oh, and if this has been discussed before, I did a search and nothing came up.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: jingle.boy on July 04, 2015, 07:11:37 AM
I think I may have touched on it in the Zeppelin Discography discussion.  Everything I've read was that it was 100% consensual. 'Imprisoned' is a pretty harsh way of putting it.  Jimmy was a pretty reclusive cat back then, and in the mid-70s when heroin really took hold of him, he became even more reclusive - with Maddox.  It certainly wasn't the worst thing any member of the band ever did.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Orbert on July 04, 2015, 11:15:52 AM
I don't remember hearing anything about this, although if it was in the Discography discussion, then I at least read something.

I find the terms "100% consensual" and "imprisoned" to be incompatible.  If Jimmy was forcing an underaged girl to do anything she didn't want to do, then I definitely have a problem with that.  But if she herself says she was smitten with him and was a groupie, then where is "imprisoned" even coming from?  Jimmy liked to hide away and get wasted.  He doesn't seem like the type to force her to stay with him.  Honestly, I would think she was free to leave any time.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: jjrock88 on July 04, 2015, 11:37:05 AM
I never heard that before.  Interesting
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: bl5150 on July 04, 2015, 11:39:11 AM

I find the terms "100% consensual" and "imprisoned" to be incompatible. 

I find the terms "consenual" and "14 years old" to be incompatible , even if it was consensual............if ya know what I mean.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: jjrock88 on July 04, 2015, 11:41:21 AM
I don't think she would be capable of making a sound decision; not only being 14yrs old, but being smitten with a major rock star.  No excuse whatsoever for Jimmy.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Fluffy Lothario on July 04, 2015, 11:51:16 AM
But if she herself says she was smitten with him and was a groupie, then where is "imprisoned" even coming from? 
From what I've read, she wanted to be there, but with the understanding that if she wanted something to happen between them, what was happening would have to remain hidden from most people around him and from the press. She's spoken of having been sometimes left behind locked doors.

But as bl5150 said, consent, i.e. whether she wanted to be there or not, isn't really the issue for me. It's the fact that he was knowingly engaging in paedophilia and hiding it. Regardless of arguments that say this was an accepted part of the culture, he was clearly explicitly conscious that he was doing something wrong by becoming involved with her, and went to huge lengths to conceal it.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Orbert on July 04, 2015, 12:52:32 PM
Therefore she was "imprisoned"?  I'm still not seeing it.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: jammindude on July 04, 2015, 03:37:19 PM
But if she herself says she was smitten with him and was a groupie, then where is "imprisoned" even coming from? 
From what I've read, she wanted to be there, but with the understanding that if she wanted something to happen between them, what was happening would have to remain hidden from most people around him and from the press. She's spoken of having been sometimes left behind locked doors.

But as bl5150 said, consent, i.e. whether she wanted to be there or not, isn't really the issue for me. It's the fact that he was knowingly engaging in paedophilia and hiding it. Regardless of arguments that say this was an accepted part of the culture, he was clearly explicitly conscious that he was doing something wrong by becoming involved with her, and went to huge lengths to conceal it.

Just a clarification...    Pedophilia often gets tossed out as an inflammatory word and "catch all" phrase for anyone who has sex with any minor whatsoever.    But honestly, this isn't really fair...nor is it a proper term.

Pedophilia is the sexual attraction to PREPUBESCENT CHILDREN...(as in under the age of 10-11)
Hebephilia is the sexual attraction to mid-pubescent minors
Ephebophilia is the sexual attraction to post-pubescent minors.

And there is a difference.   While I'm not arguing that it's acceptable in any way, shape, or form...there is a HUGE difference between someone in their 20's having "consensual" sex with 15 year old, and a 40 year old who cruises grade schools in a van.   

 
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Fluffy Lothario on July 04, 2015, 05:44:56 PM
Fair enough. Exchange terms then. The point is, he knew it was culturally unacceptable and illegal, and went about it anyway.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: LudwigVan on July 04, 2015, 06:22:20 PM
Big Zeppelin fan and I knew about this from all the bios that I read. Jimmy Page is basically my favorite guitarist ever.   Not that it makes it legally or morally right, but there are recent interviews with Lori Maddox in which she looks back fondly on the relationship and characterizes Page as a sweetheart. Hardly a forced affair.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: jammindude on July 04, 2015, 06:50:05 PM
...and therein lies the controversy over underaged affairs.   The question of whether or not the "victim" is really a victim.   Because even years later, they can often look back on the "abuse" fondly. 

I put the terms in quotes because they are in some ways subjective.   I don't have a side.   I honestly don't know what the answer is.   All I know is that trying to draw fine lines in the sand can be a very debatable thing.   

The now famous Broadway show "The Vagina Monologues" once had a part in it that (I think) was later dropped.   The writer was pondering back on how she had been molested by a much older woman when she was very much underaged.   The quote from the original version of the show was, "If it was rape...it was a good rape..." 

 
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: LudwigVan on July 04, 2015, 07:10:18 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PL5380rCsoU

Interview with Lori Maddox.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Phoenix87x on September 26, 2017, 05:46:16 PM
Just felt like talking about the albums:


Led Zeppelin I: Awesome album from top to bottom, and I love its bluesy aspects

Led Zeppelin II: Classic album, but not one that I listen to a lot. Its a little too cheerful and strait forward for my taste, but its still really good.

Led Zeppelin III: For a long time I didn't get this album, but recently have grown to absolutely love it. Since I've been loving you is a gift from god. I love the folk vibe going on as well for the album. 

Led Zeppelin IV: The one with stairway. A song that I really love and do my best not to over listen to, so that's why I only listen to this album every once in a while. Fantastic album though. When the levee breaks is so damn kick ass.

Houses: Very diverse and awesome album. Probably my favorite.

Perfect symmetry: there's quite alot to explore here. Some good, some bad, some great, some so so. But I like this album a bit.

Presence: I personally love this album, but people tend to have issues with it. This album has some kick ass songs, like achilles last stand, nobody's fault but mine, and Tea for one (a song that I absolutely adore. The rest of the songs are solid imo, so yeah I dig this album.

In through the out door: A public service announcement against drugs imo, as Paige not really being involved is sorely felt. This is the only LZ album I don't like and don't listen to. Its a shame this was their swan song.

Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: KevShmev on September 26, 2017, 06:16:42 PM
II is cheerful? Uh, what?
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: TAC on September 26, 2017, 06:18:08 PM
Just felt like talking about the albums:


Led Zeppelin I: Awesome album from top to bottom, and I love its bluesy aspects

Led Zeppelin II: Classic album, but not one that I listen to a lot. Its a little too cheerful and strait forward for my taste, but its still really good.

Led Zeppelin III: For a long time I didn't get this album, but recently have grown to absolutely love it. Since I've been loving you is a gift from god. I love the folk vibe going on as well for the album. 

Led Zeppelin IV: The one with stairway. A song that I really love and do my best not to over listen to, so that's why I only listen to this album every once in a while. Fantastic album though. When the levee breaks is so damn kick ass.

Houses: Very diverse and awesome album. Probably my favorite.

Perfect symmetry: there's quite alot to explore here. Some good, some bad, some great, some so so. But I like this album a bit.

Presence: I personally love this album, but people tend to have issues with it. This album has some kick ass songs, like achilles last stand, nobody's fault but mine, and Tea for one (a song that I absolutely adore. The rest of the songs are solid imo, so yeah I dig this album.

In through the out door: A public service announcement against drugs imo, as Paige not really being involved is sorely felt. This is the only LZ album I don't like and don't listen to. Its a shame this was their swan song.

 ???
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: King Postwhore on September 26, 2017, 06:20:17 PM
Let me be the first to say that autocorrect and not reading after you say it is a b****.   :lol
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: TAC on September 26, 2017, 06:22:57 PM
Let me be the first to say that autocorrect and not reading after you say it is a b****.   :lol

Yeah. Every time I type in Physical Graffiti it autocorrects to Perfect Symmetry. Weird. ;D
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on September 26, 2017, 06:25:08 PM
Let me be the first to say that autocorrect and not reading after you say it is a b****.   :lol

Yeah. Every time I type in Physical Graffiti it autocorrects to Perfect Symmetry. Weird. ;D


I find this amusing.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Phoenix87x on September 26, 2017, 06:30:37 PM
Oops, got Fate's warning on the brain. silly me  :blush

Physical graffiti
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: King Postwhore on September 26, 2017, 06:33:04 PM
Let me be the first to say that autocorrect and not reading after you say it is a b****.   :lol

Yeah. Every time I type in Physical Graffiti it autocorrects to Perfect Symmetry. Weird. ;D

I would have sworn yours would auto correct to Kip Winger.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: TAC on September 26, 2017, 06:34:20 PM
Only when I type in Wolfking.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Samsara on September 26, 2017, 09:07:55 PM
Winger rules...

Love Led Zepp. Like many, In Through the Outdoor is my least favorite. That record, as far as I'm concerned, should never have been called Led Zeppelin. Page is vital to Zeppelin. I love Presence.

I'm not sure I could do a ranking right now, honestly, except for putting In Through the Outdoor at the very bottom. The rest...I really need to think about.

I foolishly turned down an opportunity to see Page and Plant in NYC in the 90s. The closest I got since then was Jimmy Page & The Black Crowes at Jones Beach...which I think was 1998 or 1999. Phenomenal show.

10 Years Gone is one of my favorite Zepp tracks...
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on September 26, 2017, 09:28:24 PM
Zepp is a band I really cannot ratings for.

If I had to though...

VI
In/Out Door
Perfect Symmetry
Houses
2/3

I don't know Presence enough to rate it. Achilles is fucking epic.. but besides that I never listen to it.




Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: The King in Crimson on September 26, 2017, 10:28:02 PM
I don't know Presence enough to rate it. Achilles is fucking epic.. but besides that I never listen to it.
That's kinda how I feel about Presence as well. It has Achilles... which is an awesome song and then some other songs that I never really feel like listening to.

If I had to, I'd probably rank them thusly:
Houses
I just really love the vibe on this album. It certainly helps that it is also, front to back packed with great songs. Out of all the Zeppelin albums, I find Houses of the Holy to be the most listenable. I can listen to it again and again and not really get tired of it.

IV
Almost perfect. Some of the songs might be a little overplayed, but it also has the excellent and semi-underrated "Going To California" and "When the Levee Breaks."

II
Just front to back rock and roll heaven. The heights on IV are higher but there's absolutely nothing bad on this album.

PG
A little scattershot, but with some great gems. Probably didn't need to be a double album.

I
A great, bluesy debut but just doesn't excite me as much as some of their other albums.

Door
Definitely a giant, blazing sign broadcasting a band on its way to certain implosion. Still, they managed to craft an album with some fantastic songs even if the whole package was maybe not the best note to end on.

III
A couple of good songs, mostly meh. Not a bad album, but so completely overshadowed by everything else. Maybe it deserves more credit for being slightly more experimental than II and IV, but I think that only really matters if the songs are great or even just good. To me, they aren't.

Presence
It has "Achilles Last Stand," which is an awesome song. The rest are just kind of unmemorable. Not much more I can say about this than that.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Stadler on September 27, 2017, 07:46:12 AM
Late to the thread, but on the Lori Maddox thing:
- Her parents (at least her mom) were in on the arrangement. They knew about it, and if I'm not mistaken - though I can't find a reference immediately - proffered some form of guardianship on Jimmy because of the legal ramifications.   That was part of the "locked" thing; he made sure - because he wasn't a U.S. citizen - that his interaction with her was not overtly public. 
- She lost her virginity (according to her; I wasn't there) to David Bowie at 13.

As for Zeppelin, I've said this before:  300 concerts, and my single greatest concert moment was Page/Plant and "The Song Remains The Same", in '95 in New Jersey. It was transcendent.  After it was done I felt like I had been in a trance it was so mesmerizing.  I've never been that 'transported' by a song at a concert before or since. 

My ranking:
Physical Graffiti
IV
II
Houses of the Holy
I
Presence
In Through the out Door
III
Coda

The two canonical live albums - The Song Remains The Same and How The West Was Won - are integral, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: jingle.boy on September 27, 2017, 08:14:44 AM
Not sure I have anything to contribute that I didn't already is the discog discussion thread.  As for rankings of the studio albums:

IV - song-for-song, not a mis-fire here at all, and my #3 Album of all-time
III - replace Hats Off with Hey Hey, and this would leap-frog over IV
II - just a shade behind III
Physical Graffiti - so many epic riffs, and two of their most epic epics
I - 2nd best debut of all-time in my books (behind Boston)
Houses - eclectic as all get out, and a despite my hate for D'yer Mak'er, the strong songs are very strong
In Through the Out Door - Love the keyboard focus.  Carouselambra is a Top 10 Zeppelin song for me
Presence - far too inconsistent, but it aged well over the decades.  IIRC, this was Zeppelin's only album that charted to #1 on Billboard.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Samsara on September 27, 2017, 09:06:51 AM


The two canonical live albums - The Song Remains The Same and How The West Was Won - are integral, in my opinion.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: emtee on September 27, 2017, 10:34:14 AM
I just listened to 2 of Robert Plant's new songs from his new solo album. Very soul filled music that reminds me Zeps early
albums.

I was really a HUGE Zep fan back in the day and loved all of the albums but IV has something about it...a quality that spoke to
millions of listeners over generations, that is maybe only rivaled by Dark Side Of The Moon in terms of being able to transport
you to a different place. It's the kind of album that needs to be in the time capsule that floats around in space so 1000 years
from now the aliens will be able to hear it.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Anxiety35 on September 27, 2017, 01:05:47 PM
Zep is what got me playing drums. My dad had all their albums on vinyl and they were constantly being played in the house when I was a kid. My dad was a drummer and my mom got him a new kit when I was 6. That's when I started playing. "When the Levee Breaks" was the first real rock song I could play on the drums. Not crazy technical, I know, but I still love that beat.

To say Bonham was an influence on me is an understatement.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 27, 2017, 01:44:37 PM
When The Levee Breaks has that unearthly huge drum sound.  :metal And Bonham played not bad either.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: TAC on September 27, 2017, 07:57:38 PM
Just want to say that Wearing n Tearing, from Coda, is a TAC Top 10 Zeppelin tune.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: jingle.boy on September 27, 2017, 08:48:50 PM
Just want to say that Wearing n Tearing, from Coda, is a TAC Top 10 Zeppelin tune.

Killer track for sure, but I could probably name 20 I'd place ahead of it.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: KevShmev on September 29, 2017, 02:39:00 PM
When The Levee Breaks has that unearthly huge drum sound.  :metal And Bonham played not bad either.

I have a rep at work for foot drumming to songs at my desk (we listen to Pandora on shuffle all day in the background), and When the Levee Breaks is one of the two LZ songs that I cannot not foot drum to (The Ocean being the other).  :metal
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: ytserush on September 30, 2017, 02:00:29 PM
I just listened to 2 of Robert Plant's new songs from his new solo album. Very soul filled music that reminds me Zeps early
albums.

I was really a HUGE Zep fan back in the day and loved all of the albums but IV has something about it...a quality that spoke to
millions of listeners over generations, that is maybe only rivaled by Dark Side Of The Moon in terms of being able to transport
you to a different place. It's the kind of album that needs to be in the time capsule that floats around in space so 1000 years
from now the aliens will be able to hear it.

Haven't heard a note yet, but plan on getting this. I've loved ever album he's done since 1993's Fate Of Nations and about half the songs on the albums before that.

I'm hoping the gig we want to catch in February doesn't run smack in the middle of our Marillion show.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: sfam2112 on September 30, 2017, 06:12:39 PM

10 Years Gone is one of my favorite Zepp tracks...

 :tup Same here. I've been getting back into Zeppelin over the past year. Physical Graffiti and Houses are my two favorite albums. I think PG may have the edge over Houses, though. The Rover, Wanton, Houses (oddly enough), Trampled, Kashmir, and Ten Years Gone, especially. Also one of my favorites to play, as well.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Phoenix87x on September 30, 2017, 07:37:15 PM

10 Years Gone is one of my favorite Zepp tracks...

 :tup Same here. I've been getting back into Zeppelin over the past year. Physical Graffiti and Houses are my two favorite albums. I think PG may have the edge over Houses, though. The Rover, Wanton, Houses (oddly enough), Trampled, Kashmir, and Ten Years Gone, especially. Also one of my favorites to play, as well.

Me too. 10 years gone is my favorite track on physical graffiti
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: SoundscapeMN on September 30, 2017, 11:40:09 PM
the guitar solo in 10 Years is timeless.

a recent Zeppelin  "Retrospective" done by some YouTubers, some may find entertaining.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QHNDwtvNzQ
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: SoundscapeMN on May 11, 2019, 08:48:00 PM
bump.

new documentary coming (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/led-zeppelin-documentary-robert-plant-jimmy-page-john-paul-jones-832748/)
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: jingle.boy on May 12, 2019, 05:49:19 AM
Coolio!!!
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Orbert on May 12, 2019, 07:14:00 AM
Documentaries are the way.  Biopics suck.  I'd always rather see actual footage and interviews with the people and people who knew them than watch someone pretending to be them and some story about them which is mostly made up.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: jingle.boy on May 12, 2019, 07:53:02 AM
So you're not going to see Rocketman in the theatre.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Orbert on May 12, 2019, 06:40:06 PM
Correct.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: The Walrus on May 12, 2019, 06:41:24 PM
I'll take both, but I'm really psyched for this documentary!
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Stadler on May 13, 2019, 10:05:39 AM
Documentaries are the way.  Biopics suck.  I'd always rather see actual footage and interviews with the people and people who knew them than watch someone pretending to be them and some story about them which is mostly made up.

Credit where credit is due:  XeRocks, who posts here a fair amount shared it with me, but there's a 30 minute or so video out there where a guy breaks down rock music biopics and he's shockingly accurate in his criticisms of the form and format of the genre.  There are very specific tropes that find their way into these pictures.  I saw the video around the time of BoRhap, and it was spot on, then the Motley Crue pic fit, and I'm watching the trailers from Rocket Man and they fit to a tee.  Even down to all three having that final shot of the triumphant artist - shot from behind - as they stand before their adoring audience. 

I'll see if I can find the link. 

EDIT:  Found it!  https://youtu.be/K3q3LEaK7_U  (Don't judge it by the first 3 to 5 minutes; it gets better and more in-depth).
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Adami on May 13, 2019, 10:08:09 AM
I think, for me, if it's a band I know almost anything about and enjoy beyond 1-2 of their big hits, then I prefer a documentary.

I really didn't like Bohemian Rhapsody (as a movie, performances were good) because I really love Queen and know a decent amount about them.

I really didn't like The Dirt because it was a god awful movie. But a good Motley Crue biopic would have been fine since I don't care about them beyond a few of their greatest hits.

Same with Elton John. Looking forward to Rocket Man (which may suck) because I just know his big big hits and very little else.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: pg1067 on July 27, 2020, 11:18:50 AM
Zepbot song!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY6UkUe9XGI
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: jingle.boy on July 27, 2020, 12:14:27 PM
Zepbot song!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY6UkUe9XGI

I couldn't make it more than 45 seconds.  The facepalming on this was off the charts.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Stadler on July 27, 2020, 12:42:52 PM
Zepbot song!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY6UkUe9XGI

I couldn't make it more than 45 seconds.  The facepalming on this was off the charts.

Isn't that Greta Van Fleet?   

Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: pg1067 on July 27, 2020, 12:45:59 PM
Zepbot song!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY6UkUe9XGI

I couldn't make it more than 45 seconds.  The facepalming on this was off the charts.

Isn't that Greta Van Fleet?

If you read the comments, half of them are along the lines of, "there's already a bot that mimics Zeppelin...it's called Greta Van Fleet."

I think these AI covers are hilarious.  My favorite was the one for AC/DC ("Great Balls"), primarily because the singer's mimicking of Brian Johnson's singing is spot-on.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Stadler on July 27, 2020, 12:50:37 PM
HAHAHA, great minds (I swear I didn't look at the comments!).    I liked the AC/DC one too, and I liked the music here a lot, but that wasn't Plant and it wasn't close enough to create the illusion.  I'd'a liked it more if it was a closer match. 
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Setlist Scotty on July 29, 2020, 12:14:39 PM
Zepbot song!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY6UkUe9XGI
I couldn't make it more than 45 seconds.  The facepalming on this was off the charts.
Isn't that Greta Van Fleet?
Greta Van Thief or Kingdom Clone - take your pick!   :biggrin:
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: ytserush on July 29, 2020, 05:41:30 PM
Zepbot song!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY6UkUe9XGI
I couldn't make it more than 45 seconds.  The facepalming on this was off the charts.
Isn't that Greta Van Fleet?
Greta Van Thief or Kingdom Clone - take your pick!   :biggrin:

Strongly prefer Dread Zeppelin myself. Wish I'd seen them live.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on August 08, 2020, 10:19:33 PM
Just came across this Robert Plant podcast.  Pretty good stuff!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdCNbX-S3AY
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: DoctorAction on August 09, 2020, 01:44:01 AM
I've listened to more Zep over lockdown than I have for a decade. Mostly Presence and In Through The Out Door - primarily as I hadn't absolutely listened to those to death over the last three decades! It's been great. Best band that ever existed.

I love those last two records as much as the rest. They have a couple of different factors that stick out for me - the clarity of the drums on them both is better than on any other record. Bonzo is beautiful to listen to. And the variation of style on Out Door is fantastic.

If i had to choose a favourite platter it would be III or PG.

I also read Mick Wall's upated biog. Bit depressing, really, esp with regards to Bonham's behaviour, particularly. Was interesting, nonetheless.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Mladen on August 09, 2020, 02:49:46 AM
I also think Presence and ITTOD are at the same level as the rest of their career. It's remarkable that even their less popular albums are brilliant.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on August 09, 2020, 08:34:08 AM
I've listened to more Zep over lockdown than I have for a decade. Mostly Presence and In Through The Out Door - primarily as I hadn't absolutely listened to those to death over the last three decades! It's been great. Best band that ever existed.

I love those last two records as much as the rest. They have a couple of different factors that stick out for me - the clarity of the drums on them both is better than on any other record. Bonzo is beautiful to listen to. And the variation of style on Out Door is fantastic.

If i had to choose a favourite platter it would be III or PG.

I also read Mick Wall's upated biog. Bit depressing, really, esp with regards to Bonham's behaviour, particularly. Was interesting, nonetheless.
Is that Bonzo info in the book or Blog?  Link?  Thanks.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Phoenix87x on August 09, 2020, 10:28:56 AM
My favorite LZ albums I think would be I and III. I really love the bluesy laid back chill atmosphere of I and the folk, earthy vibes going on with III.

All the albums bring something decent to the table though.

Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: DoctorAction on August 09, 2020, 01:59:39 PM
I've listened to more Zep over lockdown than I have for a decade. Mostly Presence and In Through The Out Door - primarily as I hadn't absolutely listened to those to death over the last three decades! It's been great. Best band that ever existed.

I love those last two records as much as the rest. They have a couple of different factors that stick out for me - the clarity of the drums on them both is better than on any other record. Bonzo is beautiful to listen to. And the variation of style on Out Door is fantastic.

If i had to choose a favourite platter it would be III or PG.

I also read Mick Wall's upated biog. Bit depressing, really, esp with regards to Bonham's behaviour, particularly. Was interesting, nonetheless.
Is that Bonzo info in the book or Blog?  Link?  Thanks.

Was in the book. https://smile.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07CRLXJWS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_-ufmFbMQ2A5Q6

It's the on-tour behaviour I'm referring to.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Kotowboy on August 09, 2020, 02:05:25 PM
I just dropped in to say :

Bonzo > > > > > > Keith Moon and there is zero contest.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: SoundscapeMN on August 09, 2020, 05:05:27 PM
I've always considered Zeppelin and Renaissance to have had the most consistent discographies of the bands from 70's,  as I enjoy every record they released almost equally (sans for Coda which isn't really canon).
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Stadler on August 10, 2020, 06:56:36 AM
Just came across this Robert Plant podcast.  Pretty good stuff!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdCNbX-S3AY

Nice (and obscure) Yes references!
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: ReaperKK on October 23, 2023, 07:43:47 PM
Bump!

I saw this video of Robert Plant singing Stairway to Heaven recently, I think he still sounds great here: https://consequence.net/2023/10/robert-plant-led-zeppelin-stairway-to-heaven/
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 23, 2023, 08:03:47 PM
Funny enough, mrs.jingle shared that with me this morning, and I passed it along to my boys.  The whole clip is here https://www.facebook.com/DuranDuranArgentina1/posts/pfbid0toB9FXX9LdetVzBYP9xTQjBzxaCNUW2bmbqF7gikYW6tp9Qz7Xky4fgwBsFfKMw5l ... Plant comes in around the 44 minute mark to do a few Zeppelin tracks - Thank You, Black Dog, Stairway, and Season of the Witch (a Donovan cover).

Comment in the chat ... 'could be the last time we ever hear Stairway sung' (by Plant)
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Stadler on October 24, 2023, 07:50:39 AM
I think it's important to note that a) it was a charity event (for Duran Duran's Andy Taylor) and b) Plant has recently softened on his reluctance over that song, and he attributes it to watching Ann and Nancy Wilson play it with Jason at the Kennedy Center. 
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Orbert on October 24, 2023, 10:13:10 AM
Plant went through a period of not wanting to do Stairway to Heaven?  I mean, it makes sense.  Years after going solo and trying to establish other career directions, lots of people just want to hear Stairway.  Did he and Page ever do it, when they were doing their duo "un-led-ed" thing?
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 24, 2023, 10:15:57 AM
Plant went through a period of not wanting to do Stairway to Heaven?  I mean, it makes sense.  Years after going solo and trying to establish other career directions, lots of people just want to hear Stairway.  Did he and Page ever do it, when they were doing their duo "un-led-ed" thing?
I don't think they did.

His stated reason for avoiding performing it is that current-him can no longer relate to the somewhat gibberish lyrics that then-him came up with for that song.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Orbert on October 24, 2023, 10:38:48 AM
Interesting.  I'm reminded again of the controversy surrounding the lyrics to that song when it first came out.  Obviously the concept of buying your way into Heaven, or a stairway or other means of expedition, would offend some people.  As the story goes, Plant and Page were at Page's house, Boleskine House (former home of Aleister Crowley, said to have dabbled in the Dark Arts), and Page was playing the riff and the lyrics just came to him (Plant).  That's because the demonic spirits were speaking to him, and everyone knows that demonic spirits speak backwards, which is why you have to listen to the recordings backwards in order to understand what they're saying.  And if you listen to the lyrics to Stairway to Heaven backwards, you hear him singing the praises of Satan.  It all fits!

Or maybe it was just some gibberish words that Plant came up with which he can no longer relate to.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Samsara on October 24, 2023, 10:59:23 AM
I was so happy to see Robert Plant sing "Stairway to Heaven." If it ends up being the final time he does so live, very cool. He sounds great, particularly at his age.

I know it's not his favorite to perform, but he steps up and does things for the right reasons -- in this case, charity. He generally stands by his convictions, and I admire that.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Stadler on October 24, 2023, 01:02:55 PM
Plant went through a period of not wanting to do Stairway to Heaven?  I mean, it makes sense.  Years after going solo and trying to establish other career directions, lots of people just want to hear Stairway.  Did he and Page ever do it, when they were doing their duo "un-led-ed" thing?
I don't think they did.

His stated reason for avoiding performing it is that current-him can no longer relate to the somewhat gibberish lyrics that then-him came up with for that song.

To my knowledge, he never played it solo, and they only did it once as Page & Plant.  It's a regular in the Zeppelin setlist; Zeppelin has played five times since Bonham's death, and they played Stairway three of those times (Live Aid, Atlantic Ceremony, and O2; they did not play it at Jason's wedding or at their HoF induction). 
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 24, 2023, 02:48:24 PM
Interesting.  I'm reminded again of the controversy surrounding the lyrics to that song when it first came out.  Obviously the concept of buying your way into Heaven, or a stairway or other means of expedition, would offend some people.  As the story goes, Plant and Page were at Page's house, Boleskine House (former home of Aleister Crowley, said to have dabbled in the Dark Arts), and Page was playing the riff and the lyrics just came to him (Plant).  That's because the demonic spirits were speaking to him, and everyone knows that demonic spirits speak backwards, which is why you have to listen to the recordings backwards in order to understand what they're saying.  And if you listen to the lyrics to Stairway to Heaven backwards, you hear him singing the praises of Satan.  It all fits!

Or maybe it was just some gibberish words that Plant came up with which he can no longer relate to.
:lol
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Stadler on October 25, 2023, 10:00:22 AM
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/someone-bid-huge-amount-money-230648987.html?.tsrc=daily_mail&uh_test=0_00
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: ReaperKK on October 25, 2023, 02:11:46 PM
Does anyone have a good recommendation for a biography of Led Zepplin?
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Stadler on October 25, 2023, 03:28:39 PM
Does anyone have a good recommendation for a biography of Led Zepplin?

You want facts or all the dirt?  The latter is "Hammer Of The Gods" by Steven Davis.  The former? Harder, but probably "When Giants Walked The Earth" by Mick Wall.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: HOF on November 09, 2023, 12:39:00 PM
I didn't realize this was a mystery, but it has apparently been solved.

Mystery of ‘Stick Man’ on Led Zeppelin album cover finally solved
https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/09/style/led-zeppelin-album-cover-mystery-solved-intl-scli-gbr/index.html
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Stadler on November 09, 2023, 01:26:23 PM
I didn't realize this was a mystery, but it has apparently been solved.

Mystery of ‘Stick Man’ on Led Zeppelin album cover finally solved
https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/09/style/led-zeppelin-album-cover-mystery-solved-intl-scli-gbr/index.html

I saw that.  Isn't that neat?
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: HOF on November 09, 2023, 01:30:32 PM
I didn't realize this was a mystery, but it has apparently been solved.

Mystery of ‘Stick Man’ on Led Zeppelin album cover finally solved
https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/09/style/led-zeppelin-album-cover-mystery-solved-intl-scli-gbr/index.html

I saw that.  Isn't that neat?

Old Lot Long could have never imagined that his likeness would one day be immortalized like that. You couldn’t have explained it to him if you were a time traveller.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Samsara on November 09, 2023, 02:34:54 PM
Waiting for the descendants of Lot Long to sue Led Zeppelin...

 :lol

Cool that the mystery is solved though. I never really gave who the man was much though though, if I'm being honest.

Been a bit since I listened to Led Zepp IV. Gonna crank it now.  :metal
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: pg1067 on November 09, 2023, 03:13:28 PM
Does anyone have a good recommendation for a biography of Led Zepplin?

You want facts or all the dirt?  The latter is "Hammer Of The Gods" by Steven Davis.  The former? Harder, but probably "When Giants Walked The Earth" by Mick Wall.

I went through my big Zeppelin phase sometime in the '86-'88 range, and that included reading Hammer of the Gods.  I (then 19-21) was absolutely mesmerized and thought it was just an incredible read.  I didn't hear about all the alleged factual inaccuracies until many years later.  Whether factually accurate or not, it certainly was entertaining.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: HOF on February 11, 2024, 12:16:06 PM
Not even sure why, but for some reason I was wondering if there were any high quality covers of Stairway to Heaven. Something that just modernizes the sound mostly. I came across an awful one by Dolly Parton and Lizzo, but this one by Mary J. Blige and Steve Vai is pretty good. Love her voice on it, and it’s even maybe a little more proggy than the original. But I do prefer the acoustic half of the song and kind of wish it hadn’t gone as over the top orchestral in the second half. Vai’s solo is also kind of meh. Interesting listen though.
 
https://youtu.be/dCGq_sowcts?si=4OHKLyaK3pOH-Fby
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: ReaperKK on February 11, 2024, 02:00:39 PM
To me the best Led Zep covers are done by Heart, not the most modern of bands but they kill it. I love this version of Rain Song:

https://youtu.be/FeiNnRINW_8?si=AhW56hTn3cq0KT_u
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: HOF on February 11, 2024, 02:19:31 PM
To me the best Led Zep covers are done by Heart, not the most modern of bands but they kill it. I love this version of Rain Song:

https://youtu.be/FeiNnRINW_8?si=AhW56hTn3cq0KT_u

Yeah, I know Heart do some good LZ covers. Ann Wilson has one of Stairway that is also really good, though it also veers a little too far into the orchestral territory in the second half.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: TAC on February 11, 2024, 02:50:53 PM
Stairway To Heaven is one of those songs where no cover version is going to do it justice.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: DoctorAction on February 11, 2024, 04:04:33 PM
Stairway To Heaven is one of those songs where no cover version is going to do it justice.

https://youtu.be/2u-PjvRyr0I?si=oS3lLKoaYs6x60aI (https://youtu.be/2u-PjvRyr0I?si=oS3lLKoaYs6x60aI)

Except that Heart performance. Incredible. That song in front of that audience?! Watching Plant in tears and Page jumping about... Heart absolutely nailed it.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: TAC on February 11, 2024, 04:05:50 PM
Stairway To Heaven is one of those songs where no cover version is going to do it justice.

Except that Heart performance. Incredible. That song in front of that audience?! Watching Plant in tears and Page jumping about... Heart absolutely nailed it.

Maybe I should watch it.  ;D
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Orbert on February 11, 2024, 04:08:04 PM
The Heart performance at The Kennedy Center was very good.  It was marred by the fact that they felt the need to cut out a verse or two.  I hate that.  Either play the song, or don't.  Fuck playing "most" of the song.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: TAC on February 11, 2024, 04:09:16 PM
Maybe that's why Plant was in tears..
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: DoctorAction on February 11, 2024, 04:10:04 PM
Stairway To Heaven is one of those songs where no cover version is going to do it justice.

Except that Heart performance. Incredible. That song in front of that audience?! Watching Plant in tears and Page jumping about... Heart absolutely nailed it.

Maybe I should watch it.  ;D

Have updated my post with a link
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: DoctorAction on February 11, 2024, 04:10:33 PM
Maybe that's why Plant was in tears..

 :rollin
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: King Postwhore on February 11, 2024, 05:33:42 PM
Maybe that's why Plant was in tears..

Any chance you've watched the performance?
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: TAC on February 11, 2024, 05:39:33 PM
Maybe that's why Plant was in tears..

Any chance you've watched the performance?

I stated earlier that I hadn't.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: ReaperKK on February 11, 2024, 05:39:54 PM
The Heart performance at The Kennedy Center was very good.  It was marred by the fact that they felt the need to cut out a verse or two.  I hate that.  Either play the song, or don't.  Fuck playing "most" of the song.

It was edited for tv, the full song is on YouTube

https://youtu.be/LFxOaDeJmXk?si=IAmiBOWdAPcrZsD9
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: King Postwhore on February 11, 2024, 05:42:48 PM
Maybe that's why Plant was in tears..

Any chance you've watched the performance?

I stated earlier that I hadn't.

It's really well done. YouTube it. It's so well done.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: TAC on February 11, 2024, 05:44:52 PM
I will.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: jingle.boy on February 11, 2024, 07:29:12 PM
The Kennedy Center version, with Jason on the kit, is legendarily good.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Stadler on February 12, 2024, 07:22:19 AM
I don't care for hyperbole much, but that version of Stairway, in context, is about as good as it gets in terms of interpretive musical performance.   

Plant has talked about the reaction and in typical Plant fashion, "it's complicated"; I don't think it was the song itself, but rather the fact that what they created has spanned generations, and to see their friend's son doing that work justice...   it's a beautiful moment, and historically, Heart has serviced the Led Zeppelin material with the proper mix of reverence and extrapolation.   The main mistake - IMO -- of Zeppelin covers is that they play it too literal and too note-for-note.   The beauty and magic of Zeppelin when they played live was that it was fluid, it was interpretive, it was all based on feel, primarily the ebb and flow of the interplay of Page and Bonham. That was the special sauce.  IMO, Heart has done the best job of balancing that (though I've remarked that Matt Cameron nailed that essence in the live version of "Achilles Last Stand" at the Temple Of The Dog show I saw at MSG.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Orbert on February 12, 2024, 07:30:29 AM
The Heart performance at The Kennedy Center was very good.  It was marred by the fact that they felt the need to cut out a verse or two.  I hate that.  Either play the song, or don't.  Fuck playing "most" of the song.

It was edited for tv, the full song is on YouTube

https://youtu.be/LFxOaDeJmXk?si=IAmiBOWdAPcrZsD9

I didn't realize it had been edited, so thanks for that.  I've seen the link posted here and there and people raving about it, and I never bothered because I always get so annoyed with shortened versions of songs.

In that case, fuck editors who think it's okay to skip part of a great performance of an iconic song.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: pg1067 on February 12, 2024, 02:24:55 PM
The Heart performance at The Kennedy Center was very good.  It was marred by the fact that they felt the need to cut out a verse or two.  I hate that.  Either play the song, or don't.  Fuck playing "most" of the song.

It was edited for tv, the full song is on YouTube

https://youtu.be/LFxOaDeJmXk?si=IAmiBOWdAPcrZsD9

This isn't the full song, though.  It omitted:

"And it's whispered that soon
If we all call the tune
Then the piper will lead us to reason
And a new day will dawn
For those who stand long
And the forests will echo with laughter"
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Orbert on February 12, 2024, 03:15:58 PM
That sounds about right.  I remember singing along with it, and suddenly they were in a different place in the song.  I hadn't noticed an edit, but I suppose a really good editor could have hidden it.  I'm glad I didn't bother with the YouTube version, if it's still not the whole song.

So we're back to where we started.  It's an eight minute song.  Why cut out 30 seconds of it?  Why cut any of it, if the point is to honor those who wrote it?  Either play the song, or don't.
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: pg1067 on February 12, 2024, 04:18:46 PM
The video that Reaper posted the link for wasn't edited.  They just cut that section.  I've seen this probably half a dozen times before today, but I never really compared it.  As I was watching it earlier, I was like, "wait a minute; what happened to the forests and laughter line" (does anybody remember laughter?!)?
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: SoundscapeMN on February 12, 2024, 04:24:08 PM
not edited. but abridged. But in this case, it is part of the cover.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGGqZ5iHI28
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: ReaperKK on February 12, 2024, 05:41:49 PM
not edited. but abridged. But in this case, it is part of the cover.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGGqZ5iHI28

I'm not really a fan of Kevin Gilbert (I do love a few songs though) but that cover is kickass.

My favorite Kashmir cover is this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzAZJB0Zpt0
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Grappler on February 12, 2024, 09:07:37 PM
I love that Heart cover of Stairway, and seeing how Page and Plant were so moved by it....plus, Ann sang the shit out of it! 
Title: Re: Led Zeppelin Appreciation Thread
Post by: Stadler on February 13, 2024, 07:34:01 AM
That sounds about right.  I remember singing along with it, and suddenly they were in a different place in the song.  I hadn't noticed an edit, but I suppose a really good editor could have hidden it.  I'm glad I didn't bother with the YouTube version, if it's still not the whole song.

So we're back to where we started.  It's an eight minute song.  Why cut out 30 seconds of it?  Why cut any of it, if the point is to honor those who wrote it?  Either play the song, or don't.

But they DID play it.  The edit was for broadcast, and we all know that TV is king.  We pause the biggest sports events in the world so that we can cram in an extra 30 second commercial spot.