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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: staveoffzombies on May 29, 2009, 04:21:48 PM
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I know I'm not the only fan of theirs here.
My favorite albums of theirs are probably Chaossphere and ObZen...though I like pretty much everything they've put out. I hope to catch them on their next world tour as I can only imagine how insane these guys must be live. Haake is a beast on drums.
Appreciate!
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I've only heard ObZen. It's not bad overall kinda repetitive though. Bleed, however, is soooo fucking :metal :metal :metal I need to get more of their stuff I think.
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I wouldn't call myself a fan, but I enjoy most they put out.
I can't listen to them longer than 30 minutes though, unless I'm really in the mood. That's why don't really ever listen to entire cd's.
Track favourites:
Future Breed Machine
New Millenium Cyanide Christ
Bleed
I
Stengah
The Mouth Licking What You've Bled
and many more :laugh:
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I really like these guys. Chaosphere is my favorite from them, no contest. My only problem with them is that they're way too repetitive. I honestly can't sit down and listen to them for more than 30 minutes before I get bored.
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They are GREAT driving music. Especially with the windows down....through an upscale shopping center...blasting through the speakers of my CHEVY MALIBU. :metal
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They are GREAT driving music. Especially with the windows down....through an upscale shopping center...blasting through the speakers of my CHEVY MALIBU. :metal
:metal :metal :metal :metal
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Straws Pulled at Random.
That is all.
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Repetitive as fuck, but great until I get bored.
My favorite album is Catch 33, favorite song is Rational Gaze.
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I love Meshuggah, but yeah they're really fucking repetitive.
obZen is my favorite, although all they're albums are consistently awesome. The I EP is one of the best EPs I've ever heard.
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The only full album I've listened to was obZen. It was OK, but nothing I'd care to listen to very often.
Any other suggestions?
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Chaosphere, Nothing and the 'I'-EP.
Caosphere is more thrashy, Nothing is a bit darker, but not as dark as obZen, and 'I' is one long 20 minute Meshuggah Epic.
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Destroy Erase Improve is fucking awesome from start to finish.
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My favorite Meshuggah album used to be Nothing, but I think Catch 33 is probably their best album. I love the way the first several songs sort of flow together.
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I really enjoy them. Shed is my favorite song.
And polyrhythmic headbanging :metal
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Meshuggah is absolutely redonkulous.
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saw them in february, amazing. little repetitive for my tastes, but still amazing.
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I decided to try these guys out... I got obZen and Contradictions Collapse/None (EP) on the same disc... and I like them but I don't love them... most of the songs sound the same to me... maybe I need to have more time to listen more thoroughly...
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I really enjoy this band. At first I was really put off by how different their music was, but something about them kept pulling me back. I finally got into them when I listened to Nothing. Nebulous is ridiculously heavy. :metal
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best band ever, etc.
1. Nothing
2. Catch 33
3. Destroy Erase Improve
4. obZen
5. I
6. Chaosphere
7. Contradictions Collapse
Rational Gaze is one of the greatest songs ever. Actually, the entire album is awesome
anyone who say their songs get too samey is listening wrong
yeah i said it
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I went out and bought Catch Thirty Three many, many months ago. I couldn't even listen to the album all the way through. Keep in mind, Opeth is my favorite band, so I like brutal shit. I'll have to try again.
Album suggestions please with explanations as to why you chose it would be very appreciated!
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anyone who say their songs get too samey is listening wrong
Care to explain how one can 'listen wrong'?
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anyone who say their songs get too samey is listening wrong
Care to explain how one can 'listen wrong'?
(don't ask, please)
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they do get very samey, especially live.
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anyone who say their songs get too samey is listening wrong
Care to explain how one can 'listen wrong'?
I'll give you one more opportunity to think this through before I answer. Do you want me to answer your question?
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1. Nothing
2. Catch 33
3. Destroy Erase Improve
4. obZen
5. I
6. Chaosphere
7. Contradictions Collapse
I've only heard two or three tracks off of most of their albums (though I've heard the whole of Nothing, Catch 33 and I) and this is almost exactly how I'd rank them too based on what I've heard. I might swap DEI with C33 though.
And yeah, a lot of their stuff is pretty repetitive, but I think it really works with their style of playing, so I quite enjoy it.
I was completely obsessed with Nothing for about 6 months, and I'd still have to put it in my 20 favourite metal albums for sure, possibly even top 10. The only even slightly weaker track on the whole album is Organic Shadow. The rest is just incredible.
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anyone who say their songs get too samey is listening wrong
Care to explain how one can 'listen wrong'?
I'll give you one more opportunity to think this through before I answer. Do you want me to answer your question?
it's a valid question.
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Love them, band that got me into harsh vocals.
One of my favorite bands actually. I don't get bored so easily with them, so I can pop in 3 CD's of theirs and not be bored.
^^^^^ You don't. LOOK AT MY SIG.
Nah, I actually like Briang.
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I don't think there's a more talented band on the planet than Meshuggah, but they're not my favourite band.
Gotta respect the music these guys make. I can't imagine how long it must take to create such unorthadox music.
Genius band. Catch 33 and ObZen are my personal favourites.
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anyone who say their songs get too samey is listening wrong
Care to explain how one can 'listen wrong'?
I'll give you one more opportunity to think this through before I answer. Do you want me to answer your question?
With a response like that I gotta hear what the answer is now.
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The Shit...Meshuggah Amazes me with every new album.
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bleed is the most rediculous song ever
:metal
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Straws Pulled at Random.
That is all.
my favorite meshuggah song
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do these guys scream or growl cause im not a huge fan of that.
the only song i heard from them was bleed and it was good. good drumming
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do these guys scream or growl cause im not a huge fan of that.
the only song i heard from them was bleed and it was good. good drumming
It sounds more like a shout to me. :lol
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anyone who say their songs get too samey is listening wrong
Care to explain how one can 'listen wrong'?
I'll give you one more opportunity to think this through before I answer. Do you want me to answer your question?
With a response like that I gotta hear what the answer is now.
This. Birang, don't disappoint us!
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Birang?
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He got teh bant before the forum exploded, right?
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yep.
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So which album do you recommend me starting with? I know nothing of the band from what ive heard here.
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So which album do you recommend me starting with? I know nothing of the band from what ive heard here.
I'd go with Destroy Erase Improve or Chaosphere.
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So which album do you recommend me starting with? I know nothing of the band from what ive heard here.
Either Chaosphere or Nothing.
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So which album do you recommend me starting with? I know nothing of the band from what ive heard here.
Either Chaosphere or Nothing.
These are the two I started with as well! And it worked!
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I would go with either Catch 33 or Nothing.
It does seem there really isn't much of a consensus what their best album is, which in my opinion is a compliment to the band.
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^^ Totally agreed (although I think it's generally accepted that people who think Nothing is their best album are fucking awesome people who have tons of friends and get laid every single night).
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Which version of Nothing do you guys recommend - the original or the remaster? From what I've heard the guitars sound much better on the remaster, but they fiddled with the drum track and the new triggered drums sound awful.
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I have the remaster, and everything sounds good to me.
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Well, I started from ObZen and absolutely loved it, then got Contradictions Collapse and also finding it pretty interesting, even though totally different. What would you recommend as the next step?
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Well, I started from ObZen and absolutely loved it, then got Contradictions Collapse and also finding it pretty interesting, even though totally different. What would you recommend as the next step?
Chaosphere
You might like I as well (it's a 20 minute, 1 song EP). It's one of my favorite Meshuggah releases, but a lot of people seem to dislike it for some reason.
you really can't go wrong though.
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Right, I'll take a look around and check it out. ;)
I've been wondering what the experienced fans think about ObZen btw, as I haven't really seen many opinions.
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I think Obzen is a great album. I haven't listened to the whole thing in awhile though. Bleed is one of my favorite Meshuggah songs.
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So which album do you recommend me starting with? I know nothing of the band from what ive heard here.
Nothing
Love this band. They're music is incredibly complex, but not in a shreddy way.
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Which version of Nothing do you guys recommend - the original or the remaster? From what I've heard the guitars sound much better on the remaster, but they fiddled with the drum track and the new triggered drums sound awful.
Yeah, I personally prefer the original because of the drums and because of the vocals. The guitars do sound heavy as fuck on the remaster though, and I usually pick this one to play in my car, but when I'm listening with headphones I'll always choose the original.
I really wish they would remaster DEI.
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I really wish they would remaster DEI.
https://www.amazon.com/Destroy-Erase-Improve-Meshuggah/dp/B001ANU9R0
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I really wish they would remaster DEI.
I listened to DEI today in my car (good sound system), and yeah, something about the production is just off. There's a weird medium to high pitch overtone going on in FBR that was driving me crazy.
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Hmmm, I didn't know there was a remaster for it. Does it sound different at all?
FWIW I think the two versions of Nothing are notably different for reasons I mentioned above.
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Well, I actually don't have it, but you could try reading the comments on Amazon...
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The only response to the repetitive comments is like that's their sound.
Meshuggah just pulls off this awesome cold, hard machine like sound, with eerie holdsworth-esque leads, and in my opinion tolerable growling vocals.
Plus all of them are top tier musicians.
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Meshuggah actually should have their own genre of 'Meshuggah Metal'; they sound how they sound and nobody else sounds quite like them
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Meshuggah actually should have their own genre of 'Meshuggah Metal'; they sound how they sound and nobody else sounds quite like them
A lot of people try.
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They were the first, though. And probably the only pretty accurate attempt at putting them under a genre would be "technical, unmelodic and heavy as fuck experimental modern thrash metal".
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They were the first, though. And probably the only pretty accurate attempt at putting them under a genre would be "technical, unmelodic and heavy as fuck experimental modern thrash metal".
Unmelodic?
Fredrik's melodies would like a word with you
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Well, Meshuggah is far from being melodic, although it's not completely unmelodic :P
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meshuggah pwns :metal
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I would just like to mention the awesomeness of the vocal groove in the chorus of The Exquisite Machinery of Torture. It is win on a plate.
Appreciate please. :)
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I listened to Destroy Erase Improve yesterday, FUCK! :metal
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Been listening to them a lot today. Catch 33 just clicked. I've heard Chaosphere and obZen too, and they had some great moments, but as of today, Catch 33 is my favorite of the three.
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Had to bump this.
So many great albums.
Catch 33
Chaosphere
Destroy Erase Improve
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After watching their live DVD i've decided I need to get into more than just ObZen!!
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1. Chaosphere
2. Destroy Erase Improve
3. ObZen
4. Catch Thirty-Three
5. Nothing
6. Contradictions Collapse
That's my ranking of the albums although they're all great apart from CC, you may as well just buy all of them! :metal
I don't have the funds to buy the DVD atm sadly but I'm sure it's immense.
Also the EPs "I" and "The True Human Design" are pretty good. Plus the "Rare Trax" compilation.
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Oh i've heard I. That was amaaaazing :hefdaddy
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War just blew my mind again. How can something be this metal? :2metal::2metal::2metal::2metal::2metal::2metal:
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1. Chaosphere
2. Destroy Erase Improve
3. ObZen
4. Catch Thirty-Three
5. Nothing
6. Contradictions Collapse
1. Catch Thirty-Three
2. Obzen
3. Nothing
4. Contradictions Collapse
None is a very good EP as well.
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Nothing hasnt really clicked with me, not that I don't like it, Rational Gaze is one of their best songs, I just haven't gotten the reaction from it that most seem to get.
Catch 33 would probably be my favorite from them.
The transition into In Death- Is Death is always :metal.
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The second half of Straws pulled at random.
That is all.
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I ordered their DVD last night :2metal:
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The second half of Straws pulled at random.
That is all.
Yep.
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All of Straws pulled at random.
That is all.
Yep.
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All of I.
That is all.
Yep.
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Are these guys at all similar to Gojira?
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Are these guys at all similar to Gojira?
Similar in level of heaviness, and maybe a little bit musically (in the sense of mechanical-sounding melodies and riffs)
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Are these guys at all similar to Gojira?
A little, in terms of heaviness and a general degree of technicality but I don't think there's any band that truly sounds like Meshuggah, they're pretty unique.
I've decided to order the At The Gates DVD before the Meshuggah one btw. Feel free to flame me for this choice but I decided the ATG one was better value.
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So the Meshuggah dvd is pure sex. Highly recommended :2metal:
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Listening to Alive for the first time. Liking what I'm hearing.
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Chaosphere is absolutely :2metal: so far.
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Repetitive as fuck, but great until I get bored.
This exactly.
It doesn't take me long to get bored of them, usually by the 3rd or 4th song. :-\
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Soul Burn
New Millennium Cyanide Christ
The Exquisite Machine of Torture
Three favorite songs.
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Nice favourites actually. Alive and Chaosphere are unbelievably heavy. Still have Nothing, Catch Thirtythree, and ObZen to go I think.
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I'm pretty sure others have felt it too, but Elastic is one of the weirdest song I've ever heard in my entire prog journey. That minute or longer extended feedback made my head hurt. Does anyone know a song even weirder than that? From any artist.
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"Are You Hung Up?"
"You Call That Music?"
"The Chrome Plated Megaphone of Destiny"
"Lumpy Gravy"
By Frank Zappa
Or on a similar level of heavyness as Meshuggah:
Boris - Feedbacker
Sunn O))) - Domkirke
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Listening to Catch Thirtythree for the second time since getting it yesterday. This shit is good :hat
I also like Chaosphere, I got into that and Nothing (though the latter ain't as good) but then there's "I" which is pretty cool as well. All I have left is ObZen.
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None is a very good EP as well.
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I'm friends with the real Tomas Haake on facebook.
:metal
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I'm friends with the real Tomas Haake on facebook.
:metal
I'm friends with Anders Friden on Facebook
:metal
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Neither of these things deserve a ":metal"
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Their sound is so powerful. God I love this band.
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Neither of these things deserve a ":metal"
Facebook hate?
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Who else loves the track Sum?! I mean that ending to it is excellent! Hard to describe further.
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Who else loves the track Sum?! I mean that ending to it is excellent! Hard to describe further.
It's funny because I listened to it for the first time like yesterday, and wow the ending is just perfect.
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I've kinda lost interest in them, although obZen has some great songs like Bleed. I feel like 'I' is the ultimate Meshuggah song, and when I'm in need of some, I just play that one. It's a fantastic, epic experience.
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Who else loves the track Sum?! I mean that ending to it is excellent! Hard to describe further.
It's funny because I listened to it for the first time like yesterday, and wow the ending is just perfect.
Quoted for the truth!
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Cheers for the responses dudes. I got obZen not long ago, and it's pretty sweet thus far. Tracks like Combustion/Electric Red/Bleed/Dancers To A Discordant System are mental.
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Oh shiiiiii...!
They've just been added to the bill for Bloodstock! :2metal:
So that means I have weekend where I get to see them, Bloodbath, Devin Townsend, Cannibal Corpse, Gojira, Behemoth and *ASPLODES!*
FOOOKIN YEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS! :letam: :2metal: :metal
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You lucky SOB...
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Oh shiiiiii...!
They've just been added to the bill for Bloodstock! :2metal:
So that means I have weekend where I get to see them, Bloodbath, Devin Townsend, Cannibal Corpse, Gojira, Behemoth and *ASPLODES!*
FOOOKIN YEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS! :letam: :2metal: :metal
:letam: :2metal: :metal
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Oh shiiiiii...!
They've just been added to the bill for Bloodstock! :2metal:
So that means I have weekend where I get to see them, Bloodbath, Devin Townsend, Cannibal Corpse, Gojira, Behemoth and *ASPLODES!*
FOOOKIN YEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS! :letam: :2metal: :metal
:letam: :2metal: :metal
:metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
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Just received Alive in the mail.
Sooooooooooooooo gooooooooooooood.
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Just received Alive in the mail.
Sooooooooooooooo gooooooooooooood.
Yes. Yes it is :D
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Fuck, I want the DVD too though. I'm not prepared to shell out about 35 quid for it.. But maybe I will, who knows~!
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I got the DVD/CD combo for 15 bucks. Great deal, and worth every penny!
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:omg: It's so much cheaper on Amazon. It says the DVD is NTSC, will that work on DVD players made in Australia?
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None just leaves me speechless every time I listen to it. I just noticed Jens actually sings in the song Ritual.
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here's the thing about meshuggah, if you don't like them or 'get' them, you'll never achieve enlightment
serious...
aside from the fact that they pioneered a completely new style of music and are revolutionising guitar playing, their tunes are beautiful and terrifying, and there's no other band out there that sounds so utterly inhuman. yeah i'm sure you can throw some band at me that's a mixture of sigur ros, frank zappa and animal collective, but if you want to hear what a tribal robotic alien ritual sounds like, meshuggah is where it's at
example, 0:00-0:46 of dancers to discordant system, pure extraterrestial shit
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Yep, None - Destroy Erase Improve - Chaosphere is bad arse throughout. Though the post Nothing era is almost just as good.
Would be a good starting point for getting into Meshuggah I reckon.
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here's the thing about meshuggah, if you don't like them or 'get' them, you'll never achieve enlightment
serious...
aside from the fact that they pioneered a completely new style of music and are revolutionising guitar playing, their tunes are beautiful and terrifying, and there's no other band out there that sounds so utterly inhuman. yeah i'm sure you can throw some band at me that's a mixture of sigur ros, frank zappa and animal collective, but if you want to hear what a tribal robotic alien ritual sounds like, meshuggah is where it's at
example, 0:00-0:46 of dancers to discordant system, pure extraterrestial shit
QFT
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here's the thing about meshuggah, if you don't like them or 'get' them, you'll never achieve enlightment
serious...
aside from the fact that they pioneered a completely new style of music and are revolutionising guitar playing, their tunes are beautiful and terrifying, and there's no other band out there that sounds so utterly inhuman. yeah i'm sure you can throw some band at me that's a mixture of sigur ros, frank zappa and animal collective, but if you want to hear what a tribal robotic alien ritual sounds like, meshuggah is where it's at
example, 0:00-0:46 of dancers to discordant system, pure extraterrestial shit
i love this post
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I love Meshuggah songs being described as 'tunes'
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???
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???
:huh:
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Somehow had missed listening to Dancers to a Discordant System even though I thought I had listened to all of Obzen.
Holy shit.
:hefdaddy
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Yeah, Dancers is the best song off of Obzen. Even Haake agrees with me.
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There's a riff in that song and it sounds like a riff in Wheels Of Confusion by Sabbath. It's THAT awesome!
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Yeah, Dancers is the best song off of Obzen. Even Haake agrees with me.
Agreed! Although the opener is very good too.
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I got the DVD/CD combo for 15 bucks. Great deal, and worth every penny!
Ok I bought it for $34.99 (AUD :() from the nearest record store. But I'm watching the DVD now and it's absolutely :2metal:
Too bad they didn't play Dancers or I lol. They would've slaughtered too.
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Haake explains why they don't play either of those two songs in an interview in the middle of the DVD.
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Haake explains why they don't play either of those two songs in an interview in the middle of the DVD.
And why is that?
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Dancers : The spoken vocals.
I : No one knows how I goes.
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Yeah he explained that I is a random composition.
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Currently listening to Dancers at full volume on awesome headphones. The part right after the first set of spoken vocals is one of the most :metal moments I can think of. :2metal:
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Currently listening to Dancers at full volume on awesome headphones. The part right after the first set of spoken vocals is one of the most :metal moments I can think of. :2metal:
Pretty much all of Meshuggah's material contains the most :metal I can think of hahaha.
Meshuggah on my Grado cans sound fucking amazing, every little nuance is perfectly heard, even Haake's left foot on the hi hat pedal.
Speaking of Haake...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvQx8Ic6MjM
:hefdaddy
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Why can't the spoken vocals be done live?
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Why can't the spoken vocals be done live?
Not loud enough, I would assume. Also, I think Haake does them, which I imagine is hard to do while playing drums.
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Haake has a brain in each limb, I'm sure he could attempt it. :lol
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I'm sure Jens could do a fine job on those vocals. I hope they change their mind one day.
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I guess they don't want the master track playing over the PA along with the entire band, this band is a flawless live act and they probably want to keep it that way? Just what I think.
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Almost done listening to Catch 33. Still my favorite by them.
:hefdaddy
One thing I like about Meshuggah is when I first heard a song by them (think it was Rational Gaze), I was like "wow, this is huh. This is going to take a while to appreciate."
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Haha yep, you may say you really like them but don't know if you appreciate them or not. I, for one, am at the stage of fandom where I appreciate them :hefdaddy
And Catch Thirtythree is one of my top favourites, but then this is the kind of band where most of their albums are at number 1 :lol
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Meshuggah is the only band so far to ever make me say "Holy fucking shit" out loud while listening to them.
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It's already been too long since I last watched Alive. I think I'll do that tomorrow. :metal
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Holy shit! A resurrected thread from staveoffzombies?!? :lol Oh yeah, Combustion ftw :metal
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Perpetual Black Second.
Just when you think "Oh my this can't get any heavier"
The 2nd riff comes along..
;D
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That riff under the guitar solo is just so damn :metal.
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Holy shit! A resurrected thread from staveoffzombies?!? :lol Oh yeah, Combustion ftw :metal
Perpetual Black Second.
Just when you think "Oh my this can't get any heavier"
The 2nd riff comes along..
;D
Songs like these are to :hefdaddy for. :metal
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I have been watching Alive like crazy the past few days, it's a shame Dancers To A Discordant System isn't on it, such an amazing song.
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I was looking at the lyrics for Rational Gaze and I thought one interpretation of them could be for the uncertainty principle.
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"MESHUGGAH are the quantum physics of music as far as I'm concerned."
– Stephen Carpenter, DEFTONES
"In a genre awash with riff-and-howl clones, MESHUGGAH's music really is peerless stuff."
– BLENDER
"Exceedingly technical systematic destruction."
– GUITAR WORLD
"When it comes to creating devastating, molten-metal riffs, MESHUGGAH's approach is all or nothing."
– GUITAR ONE
"MESHUGGAH continue to innovate without stinting on the aggression. Tomas Haake remains a one-man percussion army."
– ROLLING STONE.com
"Tomas Haake's technique is exemplary and downright impeccable."
– MODERN DRUMMER
"MESHUGGAH have influenced not just listening habits but playing habits for a whole new generation of death/thrash/prog-metal drummers."
– DRUM!
"A nausea-inducing display of math mayhem punctuated by peaks of unifying bombast."
– L.A. WEEKLY
"MESHUGGAH have cemented their reputation as champions of the underground within the world of extreme metal."
- REVOLVER
"Eluding pigeonholes their entire career, the quadratic equations of MESHUGGAH's math metal shatter the scope of metal's boundaries."
– DECIBEL
"You will find little argument about MESHUGGAH being one of the true innovators in metal. Their albums often leave you mystified at how such a band could even exist."
– METAL EDGE
"Listening to MESHUGGAH is unnerving, like their overwhelming purpose is to mutate all the sperm in your scrotum in preparation for some unimaginably advanced future race."
– TERRORIZER
"Sweden's most unique contribution to metal's worldwide scene, MESHUGGAH are an exception among exceptions."
- UNRESTRAINED
"The no. 1 MOST IMPORTANT Band In Metal."
– ALTERNATIVE PRESS
"23 All-Time Top 100 Underground Heavy Metal Band."
– HIT PARADER
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tl;dr: Meshuggah is fucking awesome, and will melt your face off.
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Meshuggah have the power to translocate you from one place to another with just a riff.
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"Listening to MESHUGGAH is unnerving, like their overwhelming purpose is to mutate all the sperm in your scrotum in preparation for some unimaginably advanced future race."
– TERRORIZER
:lol
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"Listening to MESHUGGAH is unnerving, like their overwhelming purpose is to mutate all the sperm in your scrotum in preparation for some unimaginably advanced future race."
– TERRORIZER
:lol
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Yeah, that one got me too. :lol
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Meshuggah Thread not on page 1?
What the fuck is this?!
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Future Breed Machine :metal
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Even the jazzy interludes on Destroy Erase Improve are :metal hahaha
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Yes, those interludes are pretty fuckin shmick!
:2metal:
I have to add that I prefer the re-release of Nothing to the original. 8 string guitars were used on it while the 2002 original were detuned 7 string guitars. The drums I think had the exact same triggers used on Catch Thirtythree too.
EDIT: And Fredrik wrote the music to Future Breed Machine. He fuckin' wins.
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Fredrik wins by default.
:hefdaddy
(https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3464/3189536930_2664e65d24.jpg)
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The solo on Straws Pulled at Random is so amazing. It's so simple, but the execution and note choice is fucking beautiful.
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The solo on Straws Pulled at Random is so amazing. It's so simple, but the execution and note choice is fucking beautiful.
Seen this before, but every time it's said it's always correct. :tup
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The solo on Straws Pulled at Random is so amazing. It's so simple, but the execution and note choice is fucking beautiful.
YES
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Watching the DVD again right now! :metal
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The solo on Straws Pulled at Random is so amazing. It's so simple, but the execution and note choice is fucking beautiful.
For me, this was when a good band became a GREAT band.
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I wonder when they'll start to work on new material.
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Probably as soon as Ibanez releases 9-stringed guitars.
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:lol
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I'm guessing later this year. Tomas said in an interview earlier this year that they haven't really planned any work on a new album. My guess is late next year we'll get something, but perhaps that's even a long shot. We can only hope :(
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Thomas Haake can probably draw a perfect circle, the way he's so damn precise with the double bass and all. How the hell does he do the beat in Bleed?
Mårten Hagström is a genius who probably gets off to complex mathematics, and to the thought of crushing testicles using cinder blocks. His riffs are brutal as hell.
Fredrik Thordendal's solos are beautiful, smack dab in the middle of that which is made of solid, abrasive and razor-sharp metal, known as Meshuggah's rhythm section.
God, I love this band.
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Hah yeah. And Thordendal's guitar tone is VERY recognisable too! He's been using the same tone for his leads since the first album I think. And his style much different to a lot of guitarists (jazzy vibes).
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These guys are unreal :metal
I love trying to headbang to their polyrhythms and shit, and Obzen is one of the heaviest songs I've ever heard!
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If you want to know where Fredrik gets his jazz fusion, atonal soloing style, check out Allan Holdsworth if you already haven't. Pretty much Fredrik's main influence. Allan is of the most incredible guitarist i've ever heard. Fredrik's style isvery close to Allan, but I wouldn't call it copying, it's a sort of tribute, because I've never heard anyone that can match Allan's style and pull it off sounding original.
Basically Fredrik Thordendal if Allan Holdsworth was abducted by aliens.
:lol
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^Very nice guitarist
I've finally trained my brain to hear Pravus in 4/4
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Soul Burn has a potential to be my all-time favorite Meshuggah song. It's tied with New Millennium right now. But I'm not even through half their discography, so I'll see.
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Soul Burn has a potential to be my all-time favorite Meshuggah song. It's tied with New Millennium right now. But I'm not even through half their discography, so I'll see.
Oh you're in for a treat mate! I should warn you may not like their post-Chaosphere era (Nothing through to obZen) if you already are digging up to Chaosphere. That's how I felt about their discography, but you listen and listen and listen and listen 'til you understand/get it all and that's when you'll like everything nearly equally :biggrin:
Soulburn:
DOOM DOOM
DOOM DOOM
DOOM DOOM
DOOM DOOM DOOM DOOM DOOM DOOM -
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:rollin
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Oh btw AFO! Did you listen to None? (it's an EP)
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By your command.
*plays Humiliative*
I was listening to Contradictions Collapse.
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It was pretty awesome. I loved Humiliative and Gods of Rapture. Both of them sound closer to Chaosphere, and I love Chaosphere.
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Glad you liked it! I think it was their first musical direction change, they got Ibanez 7 string guitars for None through to Chaosphere.
Oh and I love Chaosphere too. I keep saying either that album, DEI, or Catch Thirthythree is the best album.
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None is pure, unadultered awesomeness. As is most of Meshuggah's dicog.
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Sane has to be my third favorite off Chaosphere, right after The Exquisite Machinery of Torture and New Millennium. My reaction to the intro: holy shit!
Also, inb4 Futile Bread Machine.
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Sane has to be my third favorite off Chaosphere, right after The Exquisite Machinery of Torture and New Millennium. My reaction to the intro: holy shit!
Also, inb4 Futile Bread Machine.
Yeah yeah heard of that before...
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https://www.afflictionclothingstore.com/Meshuggah-Signature-Series-Tee-Blk/productinfo/A2262-27/
:o Do want.
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https://www.afflictionclothingstore.com/Meshuggah-Signature-Series-Tee-Blk/productinfo/A2262-27/
:o Do want.
Holy jesus.
Fucking expensive though and they're out of all sizes except for the XLs and smalls.
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I saw Meshuggah on Friday at Bloodstock Festival. They absolutely owned it! :metal
Listening to Sol Niger Within right now; it is one the most brilliant and weird albums I have ever heard. I hope Fredrik does some more solo stuff soon.
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I saw Meshuggah on Friday at Bloodstock Festival. They absolutely owned it! :metal
I was there too! Them followed by Opeth was just incredible. :D
"You want to see me shit my pants?" :lol
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I saw Meshuggah on Friday at Bloodstock Festival. They absolutely owned it! :metal
I was there too! Them followed by Opeth was just incredible. :D
"You want to see me shit my pants?" :lol
The thought that it was almost Behemoth->Meshuggah->Opeth, but wasn't, makes me really disappointed. :( That would have been 3 of my absolute favourite bands back-to-back.
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Yeah, and what made it worse was that Cathedral were supposed to be the replacement (who I wanted to see), but they moved Gorgoroth up and had Cathedral earlier, so I missed them and then suffered the worst live performance I've ever seen by any band ever in Gorgoroth. :(
Still, Jens metal faces ftw! :metalol:
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Need to see Meshuggah live
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The 'Alive' DVD was amazing. Definitely check this out.
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There are rumours that Fredrik will bring out a new solo album this year.... :eek
Can anyone confirm?
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The 'Alive' DVD was amazing. Definitely check this out.
Yep.
Need to see Meshuggah live
Ditto.
There are rumours that Fredrik will bring out a new solo album this year.... :eek
Can anyone confirm?
:caffeine: :caffeine: :caffeine:
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There are rumours that Fredrik will bring out a new solo album this year.... :eek
Can anyone confirm?
FFFFFFFFFFFFF
WAHT
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Nothing has taken the spot of my favorite Meshuggah album. It's the one I least liked at first, but fuck, once you reallly really listen to it. :tup
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Massive bump to say "Straws Pulled at Random" is one of the most brilliant things I have ever heard.
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Just listened to Nothing a few times the other day. Great stuff. I'll definitely be checking these guys out more.
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Massive bump to say "Straws Pulled at Random" is one of the most brilliant things I have ever heard.
One of the first Meshuggah songs I heard. Remains a favorite to this day. Fucking amazing song.
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Just listened to Nothing a few times the other day. Great stuff. I'll definitely be checking these guys out more.
You need to watch this video for Rational Gaze: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQHEUTWDJWs
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Massive bump to say "Straws Pulled at Random" is one of the most brilliant things I have ever heard.
One of the first Meshuggah songs I heard. Remains a favorite to this day. Fucking amazing song.
Agreed. I've said it before, and I'll say it again(IT WAS ALL TOO MUCH FOR THE ALIENNNN!!!), but the solo is one of the most beautiful things I've ever heard. It's simplicity, note choice, phrasing, and the way it fits perfectly into that part of the song is AMAZING
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Agreed, it's like they heard all the people complaining how "un-melodic" they are and composed a beautiful section like the end.
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It's probably their finest blues moment, yes.
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I have ObZen but it doesn't click with me for some reason :-\
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I have ObZen but it doesn't click with me for some reason :-\
NOTHING
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I have ObZen but it doesn't click with me for some reason :-\
Get a new pair of ears.
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No, I'm serious.
Here, I found some for you:
(https://indyposted.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/22450_Ears_Jumbo_Rubber.jpg)
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Ugh. I hate the store brand.
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I have ObZen but it doesn't click with me for some reason :-\
Same.
It's cold and boring, IMO.
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ObZen is :hefdaddy
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obZen is a grower
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ObZen is a pretty good mix of all the different directions Meshuggah had taken in the past few years. I'm interested to hear the new album.
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You know what is absolutely badass? Tomas Haake uses a Sabian Legacy 22 inch heavy ride as a crash.
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I remember listening to Catch-33 many years ago and loving it. So heavy but it had this feel of musicality I had never heard. It flowed well with the cool time changes and (I think) poly-rhythms.
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Currently opened to listening to some new heavy bands so thought to try Meshuggah, any specific album recommendations?
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Currently opened to listening to some new heavy bands so thought to try Meshuggah, any specific album recommendations?
I would start with both their latest, Obzen, and Nothing.
If you can only go for one, I say listen to Obzen.
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obZen is good for the noobs (what else do I have to call them?) because it's their album with most of their previous styles and their newer sound or style in one album.
Or you can go for Chaosphere or Destroy Erase Improve too :D
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Yeah, DEI is my personal favorite.
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I think other albums sound much interesting, but ironically, the albums I know best are Catch 33 and 'I'. I've been hanging around with 'Nothing' lately, and it's definately a bit more eclectic. Lovin' it.
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Have yet to listen to Chaosphere and DEI. ObZen and Nothing are really good, tho, specially the latter.
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Humiliative :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
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Humiliative :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
:metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
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For some reason, that riff makes me think of a cult gathering.
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I'm in the middle of Alive right now and...
I have to bring up Straws Pulled At Random now. So the song is excellent from start to half way mark, then from that part til the end is some of the best shit I have heard in a long time. THE SOLO! The solo is absolutely remarkable. I'm in love with this song now even more so than before :O
I would like to learn that solo on guitar now. FUCK.
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I'm in the middle of Alive right now and...
I have to bring up Straws Pulled At Random now. So the song is excellent from start to half way mark, then from that part til the end is some of the best shit I have heard in a long time. THE SOLO! The solo is absolutely remarkable. I'm in love with this song now even more so than before :O
I would like to learn that solo on guitar now. FUCK.
Yeah, and that riff at 0:29 is like... I can't fucking DESCRIBE IT. I JUST FUCKING CAN'T. IT'S SO FUCKING HEAVY, IT CAN'T BE HEAVIER. SO FUCKING GROOVY. ah
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I'm in the middle of Alive right now and...
I have to bring up Straws Pulled At Random now. So the song is excellent from start to half way mark, then from that part til the end is some of the best shit I have heard in a long time. THE SOLO! The solo is absolutely remarkable. I'm in love with this song now even more so than before :O
I would like to learn that solo on guitar now. FUCK.
Yeah, and that riff at 0:29 is like... I can't fucking DESCRIBE IT. I JUST FUCKING CAN'T. IT'S SO FUCKING HEAVY, IT CAN'T BE HEAVIER. SO FUCKING GROOVY. ah
I replayed it. Just got a hard on. :blush
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I'm in the middle of Alive right now and...
I have to bring up Straws Pulled At Random now. So the song is excellent from start to half way mark, then from that part til the end is some of the best shit I have heard in a long time. THE SOLO! The solo is absolutely remarkable. I'm in love with this song now even more so than before :O
I would like to learn that solo on guitar now. FUCK.
Yeah, and that riff at 0:29 is like... I can't fucking DESCRIBE IT. I JUST FUCKING CAN'T. IT'S SO FUCKING HEAVY, IT CAN'T BE HEAVIER. SO FUCKING GROOVY. ah
That riff is indeed mindblowingly heavy.
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New Thordendal album hopefully out this year! It was going to be put out in 2010 but that didn't happen.
I heard Chaosphere like a week ago and it's maybe the best album. You can say that about every album though. :lol
Random mention of Straws Pulled At Random :metal :metal
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Bump because this band is fucking insane.
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^Agreed. How about New Millenium Cyanide Christ, huh?
Oh and how about Bleed and Dancers To A Discordant System. I've said too much.
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Bleed might be their most known song, but it's so good it never gets old. Maybe it's because of DAT RIFF :2metal:
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I liked it before I found out it was a single and one of their most known songs :lol
You'll end up knowing a good song when you hear one. And that said, the riff is indeed :metal
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Meshuggah :2metal:
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Pravus (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/Smileys/default/2metal4u.gif)(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/Smileys/default/2metal4u.gif)(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/Smileys/default/2metal4u.gif) :metal :metal(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/Smileys/default/2metal4u.gif)(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/Smileys/default/2metal4u.gif) The breakdown :metal :metal (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/Smileys/default/2metal4u.gif)(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/Smileys/default/2metal4u.gif)(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/Smileys/default/2metal4u.gif) :metal
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"Unanything" should have been on Chaosphere proper (not just the Japanese edition). really adds great pacing to an otherwise (brilliant, but) dynamic-less album.
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I think it's time to revive this thread.
Meshuggah, probably the heaviest band in the existence. I've been listening to them from time to time since last year but now I'm fully hooked to their stuff. I, Catch 33, Chaosphere, Nothing... Pure genius. And just so this post won't be all about me praising Meshuggah endlessly, https://studiorock.ro/interviews/interview-with-marten-hagstrom-of-meshuggah-17/
Let's start by asking what's happening in the life of Meshuggah
MH: Right now we are doing these summer festivals, about 12 or something and then we'll probably try to finish up an album. The next album is coming along and we're looking to finish it in the fall or winter and Nuclear Blast plans to release it in March, as that's the schedule.
I dig their heavier stuff more than their DEI and None stuffs. The only songs I like from DEI are Future Breed and Soul Burn frankly. I don't really like Obzen either.
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Still a top 5 band for me, kept that status from when I actually got into them. Organic Shadows is a fucking masterpiece.
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Nothing has really cool music in it, but I still can't get used to the production. Crashes are too sharp imo. And the guitar's not loud enough. But once I get past this issue I'm pretty sure I'll love it. But so far Catch 33 is my favorite Meshuggah album.
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^ try the other mix of Nothing then!
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I have both Nothing releases, I can appreciate the original mix but the re-release was bloody off the hook.
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New album in March. https://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=160838
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This time, from what it feels right now, it's gonna be a little bit slower and a little bit groovier album.
Hell to the yeah.
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He mentions that they might like it more than the media but that's exactly what this Meshuggah listener wants to hear. :metal :metal :metal
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exactly what this Meshuggah listener wants to hear. :metal :metal :metal
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Oh, there's a better mixing of Nothing? What have I been doing with my life...
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Oh, there's a better mixing of Nothing? What have I been doing with my life...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_%28Meshuggah_album%29#Re-release
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Oh, there's a better mixing of Nothing? What have I been doing with my life...
Yeah and it sounds utterly superior to the original. I like both but prefer the remix/re-recorded Nothing just a bit more.
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If you have to listen to only one of their records listen to Nothing!!Then you should ckeck their ''mainstream'' album Obzen!
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Dang I just listened to the re-release of Nothing and the production was exactly what I hoped it to be. Meshuggah wins again... Rational Gaze is just :hefdaddy
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A friend recommended me Catch 33 the other day since I've been interested in checking this band.
Damn, what a good album.
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Catch 33 is probably my favorite Meshuggah album to listen to all in one go. Their best songs are all contained in other records, but I love the reusage of riffs and progression of Catch 33.
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Catch 33 is probably my favorite Meshuggah album to listen to all in one go. Their best songs are all contained in other records, but I love the reusage of riffs and progression of Catch 33.
I find your opinion to be most agreeable, good sir.
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And I do so too.
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YESSSSSSSSSSSS
(https://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/393731_10150501511336170_7791476169_8723817_1546682400_n.jpg)
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YESSSSSSSSSSSS
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One metal release that I am definitely looking forward to this year.
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New album's called Colossus. (https://www.metalsucks.net/2012/01/13/meshuggahs-new-album-is-called-colossus/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Metalsucks+%28MetalSucks%29)
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New album's called Colossus. (https://www.metalsucks.net/2012/01/13/meshuggahs-new-album-is-called-colossus/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Metalsucks+%28MetalSucks%29)
Can't think of a more fitting title for a Meshuggah album. :metal
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Blabbermouth reports that it's spelled Koloss.
https://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=168249
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Blabbermouth reports that it's spelled Koloss.
https://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=168249
That was on the German Webstore, and that's German for Colossus.
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Ah, I see.
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Ah, I see.
No problem :tup, Metalsucks had a little bit on it today and they had a screen clipping, here I'll just post a link.
https://www.metalsucks.net/2012/01/13/meshuggahs-new-album-is-called-colossus/
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I can't wait for Meshuggah to release this album... and simultaneously set the new bar for 8-string metal bands! :)
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What I want to know is, WHAT IS THE MAGIC CUBE!?!?!
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What I want to know is, WHAT IS THE MAGIC CUBE!?!?!
I know right? :lol Sounds like something Tool would do! Whatever it is... I know it will be awesome, because Meshuggah stands for all things awesome!
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Cover art and tracklisting:
https://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=168380&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter (https://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=168380&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)
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Love the artwork. Those are some weird names though. XD
"The Demon's Name Is Surveillance"
"Break Those Bones Whose Sinews Gave It Motion" :|
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Love the artwork. Those are some weird names though. XD
"The Demon's Name Is Surveillance"
"Break Those Bones Whose Sinews Gave It Motion" :|
That first one does sound pretty odd, but the second title sounds very, very Meshuggah-esque to me. The artwork is indeed awesome. I'm getting pretty excited for this. :caffeine:
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Interesting acronym for that second one, BTBWSGIM... Oh Meshuggah, you so crazy.
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I think those song titles are really cool actually! "The Demon's Name is Surveillance" was the most interesting sounding one to me... hahaha I'm hoping they throw us some curveballs on this new one!
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cover art p rad
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I honesly found the album title the most interesting.
Because when a band like Meshuggah chooses to name their album "Koloss" (which is the word for "Colossus" in Swedish, btw), you know they're not fucking around ;D
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Yeah, sounds like it will just crush everything.
Swedish ftwmf.
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Looking forward to hearing from everyone how there's nothing exactly like "Bleed" on this album.... :\
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I honesly found the album title the most interesting.
Because when a band like Meshuggah chooses to name their album "Koloss" (which is the word for "Colossus" in Swedish, btw), you know they're not fucking around ;D
:rollin
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Funny interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry1Mm1q_FBg&feature=youtu.be
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So who's hitting up the Meshuggah/Baroness/Decapitated tour? I sure as hell am.
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From what I saw they don't have any Florida dates, so unfortunately I can't.
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Are US dates announced yet?
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https://www.metalsucks.net/2012/01/31/and-here-are-dates-for-the-meshuggahbaronessdecapitated-tour/
I'm going to the St. Paul date.
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WORCESTER SHOW YES
I am there
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I'll just leave this here:
https://got-djent.com/article/meshuggah-new-track-intentionally-leaked
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beat me 2 it.
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I'll just leave this here:
https://got-djent.com/article/meshuggah-new-track-intentionally-leaked
:omg: Ohh hell yes, that was interesting indeed! :metal
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This is some heavy shit. Awesome.
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Quite different, yeah kicks ass, but don't know what to think yet.
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Awesome heavy as sin song, but holy fuck who put the compressor on that thing?!? Pumping everywhere :facepalm:
Edit: sorry, it was the crappy player. Why would it automatically push it like that instead of putting out normal volumes?
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Having had this song on repeat all day I can say that I like it even more, it is heavy, dark and groovy as hell. This is certainly a grower.
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This may be the album that tips me into Meshuggah land. I've appreciated them for a few years, but never really got INTO them.
But I really like this.
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Oh my fucking hitchens
what a song. :hefdaddy
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Absolutely adored the new song. I hope the new album's more of Catch 33 than obZen. FYI, the new song's the "Break Those Bones Whose Sinews Gave It Motion".
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actually it is "these" not "those"
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Lets just call it BTBWSGIMdhalsdlhdah....
... So much esier...
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https://store.nuclearblastusa.com/Item/Meshuggah_-_-Koloss-_Deluxe_CD+DVD_+_Shirt_-PRE-ORDER-/PKG001054
Another new song, Do Not Look Down.
Love it. BTBHSGIM was good but this song is the tits.
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The new song is very good, but I think BTBWSGIT is better.
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Dammit! That new song is groovy! :metal
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Just listened to the 2 songs. I'm lookin forward to the new album. :metal
Also, I was listening to Alive on Spotify the other day and I noticed just how ground breakingly heavy the middle section of Lethargica is live. At around 3:09.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6tZ3BrX6yI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6tZ3BrX6yI)
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Just listened to the 2 songs. I'm lookin forward to the new album. :metal
Also, I was listening to Alive on Spotify the other day and I noticed just how ground breakingly heavy the middle section of Lethargica is live. At around 3:09.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6tZ3BrX6yI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6tZ3BrX6yI)
:metal
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The new song is very good, but I think BTBWSGIT is better.
True. I like the Nothing/Catch 33 vibe in Break Those Bones more.
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I have a feeling this album won't live up to the rest of them.
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samples are up https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B007D2RHJK/ (https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B007D2RHJK/)
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samples are up https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B007D2RHJK/ (https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B007D2RHJK/)
Swarm and Demiurge sound fucking awesome :2metal:
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Behind the Sun sounding epic. The Demon's Name Is Surveillance sounding like Chaosphere.
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I will happily blow my speakers with I Am Colossus!
Chug chug chug! :metal
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Album Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NW2T9j-mDVg
dat riff :metal
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.....Damn.
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Wow!
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Oh yeah, I'm all over the deluxe edition. This is gonna rock. :metal
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BTW I love the groovyness in the riff of Do Not Look Down.
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I´m going through a Meshuggah period as u always do before a release. And i rediscovered This Spiteful Snake from Obzen, the part between 1:29 - 2:14 is amazing but when it comes to 2:13!!! Man that riff is out of this world....it´s so crushingly mental! :metal
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haha so epic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQKhZTTCj04 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQKhZTTCj04)
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Album is on Spotify :metal
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That's not the only place it is. ;)
And it kicks more ass than should be legally possible. Can't wait for Koloss to drop so I can get my copy of it. :metal
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(https://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpdghooFLv1qd0a2o.jpg)
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Album is on Spotify :metal
it's not.
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Is for me?
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so heavy
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This might be the heaviest fucking thing I've ever heard. Holy hell, this is so awesome.
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Maybe next Monday in the UK. ( Europe Release Date ) .
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Like it so far, but I've got to say, the first track; I Am Colossus is quite underwhelming.
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Like it so far, but I've got to say, the first track; I Am Colossus is quite underwhelming.
Very much agreed. I was poised to be extremely disappointed after that song. Thankfully, it picked up quite a bit.
Still, I must say I don't really get the appeal of Meshuggah that turns them from a super heavy djent band into brilliance. They're one of those bands that I say I like, because I honestly do, but it's way too samey for me to want to listen to on a regular basis. The concert club I frequent likes to play Meshuggah over the speakers between bands, and I think it works pretty well there. But, in terms of listening to it at home, I don't get the urge too very often.
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yeah I probably wouldn't listen to this very often
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It also annoys me that most reviews keep saying "Shows those young djent bands how it's done"
Uhm, can we stop treating djent like it's just a shitty offshoot of Meshuggah?
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It also annoys me that most reviews keep saying "Shows those young djent bands how it's done"
Uhm, can we stop treating djent like it's just a shitty offshoot of Meshuggah?
:D i know seriously
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It also annoys me that most reviews keep saying "Shows those young djent bands how it's done"
Uhm, can we stop treating djent like it's just a shitty offshoot of Meshuggah?
I will, when it stops being shitty. :neverusethis:
I kid, I kid...
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Two listens in, and I'm really liking it. First song does start off slow, but it picks up after a bit and after that the album is just brutally fucking heavy. I'll agree that Meshuggah is a mood band, where I have to be in precisely the right mood to listen to it, but when that mood hits, I'm going to be bringing this one out a lot. Just crushingly heavy, some great riffs, awesome album.
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Amazing. I expected no less from this band.
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Demiurge should be the official soundtrack to the end of the universe.
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THE DEMON'S NAME IS SURVEILLANCE
HOLY SHIT :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
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Demiurge should be the official soundtrack to the end of the universe.
^
Demi
Fucking
Urge
I didn't think it was possible for anything to be this heavy.
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This album in a lot of places reminds me of Vidlhjarta's new album, and Meshuggah was a huge influence on them, but I enjoy the latter more. Perhaps it's because the vocals stay mainly the same the entire album, no higher or lower pitches, no added aggression in sections or anything like that. I love the heaviness, but I feel that even more heaviness could be added through the vocals as well.
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THE DEMON'S NAME IS SURVEILLANCE
HOLY SHIT :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
Total agreement. The opening riff is PURE FUCKING METAL. :metal
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*listens to Electric Red* - From ObZen - From 2009
*listens to Resistance* - From Enslaved by Soulfly - From 2012
:omg: :omg: :loser:
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*listens to Electric Red* - From ObZen - From 2009
*listens to Resistance* - From Enslaved by Soulfly - From 2012
:omg: :omg: :loser:
Honestly, it seems like every Meshuggah song since Nothing spams those two notes. XD
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But the soulfly song is a massive rip off . It even has the same drums.
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I will be gettin Koloss next week but i couldn´t resist so i had a little go on Spotify today! But i WILL NOT judge this album before i spent atleast a week murdering my stereo with it, i feel i owe Meshuggah that.....infact i think we all owe them that! :yarr
Demiurge at 3:35!! :omg: + :censored + :metal + :chill + :heart
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Well it's been murdering my computer since I...acquired it...and I'm prepared to say right now it's my favorite Meshuggah album. I don't know if it's their BEST, but unlike other Meshuggah albums where I have to be in the proper mood to listen to it, I keep coming back to it over and over again. Just so crushingly HEAVY. :metal
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This album is fucking \m/ (- -) \m/....
What bugs me now is how Meshuggah are going to be stuck to that Djent onomatopoeia. Meshuggah i'd call Extreme Tech Death Metal
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Just started my first listen. I Am Colossus is indeed as many has pointed out a tad underwhelming, but still pretty good.
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the band really took a turn for the simpler and more melodic. i vastly prefer this direction over, say, Nothing, though i also miss the dynamics of Destroy Erase Improve.
this stuff is gonna be caught in my head for weeks
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Wow.
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Been giving this album quite the few listens lately, especially while at the gym. Holy shit. I was never big on Meshuggah before, but oh man this album is fucking good. Do Not Look Down and Marrow. Holy golly god damn those songs. Those. Songs.
:2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal:
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Listened to Demiurge.
Sounds like Meshuggah to me. They don't really do any other sound.
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Picked up the special edition of Koloss from my local record store yesterday for $13. The packaging is pretty nice but god damn it I hate lyric booklets that are foldouts poster like things. (https://puu.sh/mYrx)
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I really love the new album! :tup
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Been listening to Koloss constantly since yesterday, not disappointed. obZen is still definitely my favorite, but this comes pretty close. Do Not Look Down has one of their best grooves ever, Demiurge is brutal as hell, and I Am Colossus has this cool doom-metal vibe Meshuggah hasn't really done before, definitely an underrated song.
song rankings time:
1: Do Not Look Down
2: Demiurge
3: I Am Colossus
4: Behind The Sun
5: The Demon's Name Is Surveillance
6: Marrow
7: Break Those Bones
8: Swarm
9: The Hurt That Finds You First
The Last Vigil is good, too.
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I'm let down by Koloss, I find it boring. I'll be sticking to Obzen and Destroy, Erase, Improve.
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Fuck it, ranking time.
1. Marrow
2. Do Not Look Down
3. I Am Colossus
4. Demiurge
5. The Demon's Name is Surveillance
6. Swarm
7. Break Those Bones
8. Behind the Sun
9. The Hurt That Finds You First
10. The Last Vigil (I actually really like this as a closer though. It kind of calms the entire experience down)
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The ones that stood out for me so far, the ones that got me looking like 'wow! What's the name of this track', are:
Demiurge
Do Not Look Down
Marrow
I Am Colossus
In that order, those are my to 4 so far, and I love the closer too, just the way it feels like, err, like the reverb of their amplifiers ringing out in the studio.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1J00l_BEts&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1J00l_BEts&feature=youtu.be)
Music video for BTBWSGIM..
Unedited :heart
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:heart Loving Koloss actually. :metal
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I been really diggin Marrow lately! :metal
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The Demon's Name Is Surveillance is a pretty freakin' solid track as well :D Haake once again showing off his awesome stamina and sense of rhythm.
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The Demon's Name Is Surveillance is a pretty freakin' solid track as well :D Haake once again showing off his awesome stamina and sense of rhythm.
Totally agree! That song is so effectively crushing it´s like a wall of sounds!
Love the string bending part at: 2:10! :metal
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This album is not the ideal way to start off a monday morning.
This'll be a :metal-week
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Just bumping this thread to say that Koloss is awesome. :metal
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Yep, still completely fucking badass.
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I've always imagined Meshuggah as being the type of music Klingons would make.
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I suppose I should give it a second chance.... I don't know, it was just very underwhelming to me, and it took a few sits to even finish it.
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Do Not Look Down
Best song of the year so far. So heavy and so very groovy.
I'm really liking Koloss quite a lot. So far, it doesn't have the same 'exhausting' qualities that other Meshuggah albums have, wherein I like the album but I can't listen to it much because it's just... exhausting to listen to. With Koloss, I just want to listen to it all the time.
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I bought it and I have listened to seven first songs. I'm not yet very impressed, though Behind the Sun is awesome.
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though Behind the Sun is awesome.
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Just got back from seeing these guys in LA. They raped my mind with their bone crushing heaviness and I loved every minute of it. The whole band sounded extremely tight and the setlist was near perfect. Unfortunately though, I was kinda in a sucky position as there was a pillar which obstructed my view of Tomas but I still had a blast. As far as the openers go, I came too late to see Decapitated but I saw most of Baroness' set and they sounded awesome as well. Can't wait for their new album. By far the worse part of the concert was the intermission between Baroness and Meshuggah when some retard thought it would be funny to play Rod Stewart's "Da Ya Think I'm Sexy?" over and over again for about 20-25 minutes. They actually started playing Avenged Sevenfold's "Scream" on the PA but they cut it off to play that awful Rod Stewart garbage. But as soon as Meshuggah took the stage, I quickly forgot about that and banged my head off. If this tour is coming your way, I highly suggest you catch it. You will not be disappointed. Overall score: 9.5/10
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Seeing them in Philly in 2 weeks! Can't wait
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Seeing them later this month, should be awesome >:3
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Just got back from seeing them live in Toronto. Holy fuck. It was pretty much amazing. The guitars may as well be knives cutting through the warm butter of my ears.
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Just saw the setlist.
Without spoiling anything, IT'S FUCKING GOOD. Tomorrow night is gonna be so awesome.
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Gonna try again with Meshuggah. They have a unique sound but honestly it seems like all their songs are same. Destroy Erase Improve sometime this weekend.
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Saying AGAIN that Koloss is totally awesome!
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Destroy Erase Improve sometime this weekend.
DEI and CC is their worst work in my opinion. Chaosphere is okay on rare occations but Nothing and forward is where they really hit it off.
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Destroy Erase Improve sometime this weekend.
DEI and CC is their worst work in my opinion. Chaosphere is okay on rare occations but Nothing and forward is where they really hit it off.
meanwhile, i disagree xD they've not done anything that touches DEI because nothing else sounds like DEI. they had a very specific fire under their asses for that record (and the None EP) that they've moved on from. their use of dynamics and clean tones is absolutely brilliant on DEI, and the lack of that approach puts giant monotony all over Chaosphere, Nothing, even ObZen (imo) – and why Catch 33 and I worked out so goddamn well. i think those dynamics are an integral part of the band's strengths, so when they drop it, even for a song, it's usually less than it could've been with more of the dynamic approach.
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I definitely like some Meshuggah albums better than others, but every album has its own special charm to it. Destroy Erase Improve has more dynamics than their other albums, Chaosphere has their most interesting polyrhythms, Nothing has a really cool drone-like feel with great grooves, Catch 33 is without question their most experimental and progressive, and obZen and Koloss are pretty much everything good about Meshuggah thrown together.
Also, tonight's show was awesome. :metal
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DEI is to "trash" orientated for me, and the vocals sounds pretty weird and actually pretty bad to me.
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DEI is to "trash" orientated for me, and the vocals sounds pretty weird and actually pretty bad to me.
I actually agree with this.
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DEI is to "trash" orientated for me, and the vocals sounds pretty weird and actually pretty bad to me.
Definitely. It's pretty bad, and...well, it's generic. :P
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DEI is to "trash" orientated for me, and the vocals sounds pretty weird and actually pretty bad to me.
Definitely. It's pretty bad, and...well, it's generic. :P
i get that you folks don't like DEI, which doesn't perturb me at all, but your reasoning does — how is DEI generic? which bands from the same time period (or before) sound anything like DEI at all? how do the vocals sound bad when all Jens has been doing vocally since 1991 has been screaming his head off?
i definitely get why most people overlook/ignore Contradictions Collapse, as it's mostly boring Metallica ripoffery, but DEI was an enormous improvement, and has all of the traits of Catch 33-era Meshuggah except in the production (and use of backing vocals).
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It's not bad, but it's nothing special.
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how do the vocals sound bad when all Jens has been doing vocally since 1991 has been screaming his head off?
Because it sounds like he hadn't learned how to do it properly by DEI. The vocals on Chaosphere isn't the best either but on Nothing, 33 and obZen his vocals sound truly amazing because they're done with so much more energy.
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Tomas Haake in action! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDBK6UNDiko&feature=plcp) :metal
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How do people dislike DEI? I thought it was considered one of their best?
It's one of my favorites ???
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I don't DISLIKE it, I'd just rank it around the bottom.
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How do people dislike DEI? I thought it was considered one of their best?
It's one of my favorites ???
no idea. it was a real peak in their songwriting and dynamic approach. it could use re-mixing a la Nothing (imagine how "Future Breed Machine" would sound with Axe FX on the guitars!), but even with its production as is, i find it a solid and engaging listen, and less fatiguing than every album since, except Catch 33.
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How do people dislike DEI? I thought it was considered one of their best?
It's one of my favorites ???
no idea. it was a real peak in their songwriting and dynamic approach. it could use re-mixing a la Nothing (imagine how "Future Breed Machine" would sound with Axe FX on the guitars!), but even with its production as is, i find it a solid and engaging listen, and less fatiguing than every album since, except Catch 33.
I agree to an extent. I only fault it for the volume level vs. their other stuff; the guitar tone IMO is their finest. They used Line6 stuff Nothing through ObZen which I dislike.
About people not liking DEI; it was the final album of a different and old style, before they found their sound. And to me, DEI shares a lot more with with of course None EP, but even Contradictions Collapse than it being similar to Catch 33. There have been more post DEI releases now then DEI and prior releases, so there will be a lot of fans that probably started with Nothing, ObZen etc.
While I am in the Chaosphere over DEI camp, I would for sure place DEI at number 2 or 3 just for the sake of the songwriting and dynamics you mentioned Seasonsinthesky.
And agree also; DEI is an easier front to back listen then anything after it. Although most Meshuggah songs, even DEI and None EP tracks are pretty relentless. ;D
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https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151289631460903.509910.169789340902&type=1 (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151289631460903.509910.169789340902&type=1)
Apparently Meshuggah releases a music video for Demiurge next week. Very good song, but frong the looks of the behind the scenes shoot it'll be a live video which isn't really my thing.
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I've listened to so much good music this year that Koloss, a CD that I was certain was going to be a top five one for me, might not even make the top 10. But that doesn't make it any less good, just means this has been one hell of a year. The Demon's Name Is Surveillance is still likely to win my riff of the year, though. That song CRUSHES.
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I tend to agree on it making my top 10. Trust me, i love it, but there has been some great music this year. I usually try to keep a monthly top ten, and with all the GREAT music this year, it is on the verge of not making my 10. I will say, there is one album, hands down.............nothing besides BTBAM even close that is my #1, and unless a band that i truly LOVe releases their 2nd album before year end, Mseh might fall out.
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Tomas Haake in action! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDBK6UNDiko&feature=plcp) :metal
1:29 ? I wonder if he thought that was enough :p
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Tomas Haake in action! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDBK6UNDiko&feature=plcp) :metal
1:29 ? I wonder if he thought that was enough :p
Struck with a little brainfart there for a sec. :)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UISjgLu8zBA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UISjgLu8zBA)
Demiurge, official live music video.
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MESHUGGAH, ANIMALS AS LEADERS, INTRONAUT NORTH AMERICAN TOUR:
Only one date confirmed so far:
Feb 24th- Mill City Nights, Minneapolis, MN
Dates coming next week!
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^Now THAT is a solid package. Love all three bands. I already saw Meshuggah this year, but it looks like I'll have to go again!
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Sweet. I'd love to see Meshuggah and Animals as Leaders. Checking out Intronaut now.
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How do Meshuggah sound at a gig ?
With constant double bass and two 8-string guitars - i can't imagine there being much clarity.
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They are with out a doubt one of the tightest extreme metal bands you can find these days and probably plays as clare as they possible can in a good day. Basically because they gate everything live to absurdum to take away all the unessacary "hits" or "strikes" they do with their instruments to make it sound as clean as possible. That is atleast what i've heard them do.
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How do Meshuggah sound at a gig ?
With constant double bass and two 8-string guitars - i can't imagine there being much clarity.
I suppose it really depends on the venue.
I saw them at The Palladium in MA (which is known for having pretty shitty acoustics) and yeah, it sounded pretty bad.
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I saw them at the Sound Academy in Toronto, which is famous for having bad sound almost all the time. Somehow Meshuggah was the best band I've ever heard there. Way more clarity than you'd imagine.
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I saw them at the House of Blues in LA. The acoustics were just fine there.
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I've always imagined Meshuggah as being the type of music Klingons would make.
That is the most accurate description of Meshuggah I have ever read.
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This thread needs a bump so why not do it in style:
MESHUGGAH - Demiurge (OFFICIAL VIDEO) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg2076b5Lqc)
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This thread needs a bump so why not do it in style:
MESHUGGAH - Demiurge (OFFICIAL VIDEO) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg2076b5Lqc)
Great video!
And through that I found this: wonderful, wonderful drumming: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fwx5vXRXk5U
I never thought I'd see anyone but Tomas Haake drum the Meshuggah stuff thát good.
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Yea he's a beast, saw him do Nothing some time ago.
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This thread needs a bump so why not do it in style:
MESHUGGAH - Demiurge (OFFICIAL VIDEO) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg2076b5Lqc)
Great video!
And through that I found this: wonderful, wonderful drumming: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fwx5vXRXk5U
I never thought I'd see anyone but Tomas Haake drum the Meshuggah stuff thát good.
Yeah man I've been watching his stuff over a year now. He is an exceptional player.
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Hmm... what could this be?
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/601305_10151368814146170_1710327704_n.jpg)
We'll find out next Tuesday apparently.
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Maybe it's a new Meshuggah brand of energy drink.
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I don't think mankind is ready for that.
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Scion does this all the time.
It's a new 5 track EP from Meshuggah. bands like Corrosion of Conformity, Immolation, Arsis, Revocation, etc have done a free 5 track EP for Scion in recent times. Now it's time for Meshuggah.
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Scion does this all the time.
It's a new 5 track EP from Meshuggah. bands like Corrosion of Conformity, Immolation, Arsis, Revocation, etc have done a free 5 track EP for Scion in recent times. Now it's time for Meshuggah.
this, and all of them kick ass, especially the One Enslaved and Wormrot did
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Ahh ok so it's not 5 "new" songs? Only re-releasing some songs as a EP?
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The artwork is awesome. And I hope it's new songs, if it's not I have no interest in it whatsoever.
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Scion does this all the time.
It's a new 5 track EP from Meshuggah. bands like Corrosion of Conformity, Immolation, Arsis, Revocation, etc have done a free 5 track EP for Scion in recent times. Now it's time for Meshuggah.
this, and all of them kick ass, especially the One Enslaved and Wormrot did
Ok so it is new songs?
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Scion does this all the time.
It's a new 5 track EP from Meshuggah. bands like Corrosion of Conformity, Immolation, Arsis, Revocation, etc have done a free 5 track EP for Scion in recent times. Now it's time for Meshuggah.
this, and all of them kick ass, especially the One Enslaved and Wormrot did
Ok so it is new songs?
yep, they all are
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That's pretty much exactly what I was hoping for :metal
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Scion does this all the time.
It's a new 5 track EP from Meshuggah. bands like Corrosion of Conformity, Immolation, Arsis, Revocation, etc have done a free 5 track EP for Scion in recent times. Now it's time for Meshuggah.
this, and all of them kick ass, especially the One Enslaved and Wormrot did
Ok so it is new songs?
yep, they all are
:omg: :hefdaddy
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Awesome, new songs, then it's interesting. The songs can only be great with that artwork.
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Pitch Black is a pretty stupid name, but hey, it's metal.
NONE MORE BLACK
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It's like how much more black could it be? and the answer is, none.
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Blacker than the blackest black, times infinity.
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Pitch Black: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7e3OuUyKvbg&feature=player_embedded (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7e3OuUyKvbg&feature=player_embedded)
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Only one new song? That's a bit disappointing.
It's a pretty cool song though.
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I'm also disappointed by there only being one song. But it is pretty sweet!
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Ahhh that rythm transition at: 2:07 was just the fix i needed! :metal
Btw Dancers live is just......"metal bands all over the world I hope you all learn from thy masters how you should play and sound live" fuck man that was precise!
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So there was only one song? The song was awesome, though I thought there'd be five.
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Loving the new/old song!
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Loving the new/old song!
Old?
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Yea.
1. Pitch Black
2. Dancers To A Discordant System (Live)
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Loving the new/old song!
Old?
Technically it's an old song, since it was written and recorded in 2003.
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Oh okay, that actually explaines the Nothing-ish vibe that I love in Pitch Black.
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Apparently Kidman was sick yesterday so the band used a cardboard version of him on stage and used a vocal track instead! :rollin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TAU_0BbXjZo
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:metal
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any word on if the singer will be back tonight in philly?
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any word on if the singer will be back tonight in philly?
All I heard was that he was going to see a doctor yesterday and hopefully be able to preform tonight. Haven't heard any more though.
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Seeing Meshuggah in Toronto tonight! Second time seeing them (both since Koloss was released).
Glad Jens is back in the game
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Up until today I thought that "Imprint of the Un-Saved" from Catch 33 was actually "Imprint of the Un-Shaved".
Would have been a much better title, imo.
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I FINALLY got around to listening to Koloss yesterday. HOLY SHIT. It's so fucking heavy. I don't even know how to explain the way I felt when i put it on last night.
IT MAKES ME WANT TO TYPE IN ALL CAPS ALL THE FUCKING TIME.
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I FIANNLY got around to listening to Koloss yesterday. HOLY SHIT. It's so fucking heavy. I don't even know how to explain the way I felt when i put it on last night.
IT MAKES ME WANT TO TYPE IN ALL CAPS ALL THE FUCKING TIME.
I HEAR YOU AND I CAN'T AGREE MORE, CAPS ALL THE FUCKIN WAY!
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I FIANNLY got around to listening to Koloss yesterday. HOLY SHIT. It's so fucking heavy. I don't even know how to explain the way I felt when i put it on last night.
IT MAKES ME WANT TO TYPE IN ALL CAPS ALL THE FUCKING TIME.
I HEAR YOU AND I CAN'T AGREE MORE, CAPS ALL THE FUCKIN WAY!
I WANT TO SMASH MY HEAD IN TO A WALL. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK.
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I FIANNLY got around to listening to Koloss yesterday. HOLY SHIT. It's so fucking heavy. I don't even know how to explain the way I felt when i put it on last night.
IT MAKES ME WANT TO TYPE IN ALL CAPS ALL THE FUCKING TIME.
I HEAR YOU AND I CAN'T AGREE MORE, CAPS ALL THE FUCKIN WAY!
I WANT TO SMASH MY HEAD IN TO A WALL. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK.
MEEEEEEEEEEEEE TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
(https://img820.imageshack.us/img820/7940/yarr.gif)
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Just remember, when you're listening to Koloss, whatever you do...
DO NOT LOOK DOOOOOOOWN :metal
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THIS IS THE BEST THING I'VE EVER DONE. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
P.S. NOT LOOKING DOOOOOOOOOOWN.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fTYXbFsWg-M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fTYXbFsWg-M)
Music video for "I Am Colossus". I must say, this music video was really cool. Very creepy and cool.
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That was awesome! Definitely one of their better music videos.
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Bump.
Best video of 2013?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6duFK02lug
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Haha awesome.
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Fredrik playing "I am colosuss". So simple in a way but yet heavy as nothing else! :metal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XFos-S4ArU&feature=c4-overview&list=UUo22XjBj6NkzdjALuTbPyBg
I mean the riff at 2:13 is just brutal!
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I do wonder where this will end...
Will bands just keep on putting lower and lower strings on their guitars in order to be TEH HEVVY....
Having a guitar tuned two octaves down doesn't make it heavy. It's all about the rhythm.
I'm not a fan of Djent or Tech Metal or whatever you want to call it. It's just nothing to me.
Just super low guitars playing one note over and over with drums playing some deliberately awkward rhythm.
Bland Street Bloom by Sikth is a much better example of how to do it and still have groove and some semblance of tune.
Me No Like.
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So don't listen to it.
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I do wonder where this will end...
Will bands just keep on putting lower and lower strings on their guitars in order to be TEH HEVVY....
Having a guitar tuned two octaves down doesn't make it heavy. It's all about the rhythm.
I'm not a fan of Djent or Tech Metal or whatever you want to call it. It's just nothing to me.
Just super low guitars playing one note over and over with drums playing some deliberately awkward rhythm.
Bland Street Bloom by Sikth is a much better example of how to do it and still have groove and some semblance of tune.
Me No Like.
Wait a second, it's all about rhythm, but you don't like drums playing 'awkward rhythms'? And still, there's no point in that entire song where there's 'super low guitars playing one note over and over'.
I guess it will end when guitars are going to sound like bass guitars. Which they do oftentimes. But that's not a bad thing, I'm sure there are bands that have no guitar player, just a bass player using effects.
So I guess it's not the sound that bugs you, it's the idea that a guitar doesn't really sound like a guitar anymore.
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Having a guitar tuned two octaves down doesn't make it heavy. It's all about the rhythm.
Rhythm actually is what "djent" music is all about so I don't understand the problem. Is it "I Am Colossus" you don't like? Because that's not my favorite Meshuggah song by far for some of the reasons you posted, but some of the rest are some of the best rythm-works I've heard.
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I do wonder where this will end...
Will bands just keep on putting lower and lower strings on their guitars in order to be TEH HEVVY....
Having a guitar tuned two octaves down doesn't make it heavy. It's all about the rhythm.
I'm not a fan of Djent or Tech Metal or whatever you want to call it. It's just nothing to me.
Just super low guitars playing one note over and over with drums playing some deliberately awkward rhythm.
Bland Street Bloom by Sikth is a much better example of how to do it and still have groove and some semblance of tune.
Me No Like.
Djent....*shrugs*....! Don't treat Meshuggah like just another Djent....*shrugs*....band plz. They have nothing to do with that genre...period. It's a made up word by others that themself even say they don't affiliate with. They are their own identity and have been for more than 20 years. Think about that, they released their first EP the same year as DT released WDADU. :)
If you call polyrythms awkward then you don't just appriciate or understand what they're doing. IMO Meshuggah's music have always been a state of mind, something that you can close your eyes to and just listen to.
Crank these up and then tell me Meshuggah's music ain't groovy:
Do Not Look Down
Marrow
Neurotica
Dancers To A Discordant System
Rational Gaze, Abnegating Cecity
Sickening
Beneath (This ain't groovy?)
Inside what's within behind
and many more.
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What's wrong with "djent"? And how is Meshuggah not that? As I see it Meshuggah was the ones who started it. And what do you mean "made up word"? A word has to come from somewhere and it has clearly developed into a genre which Meshuggah is pretty much leading whether they say the don't or not. For example Dream Theater wouldn't stop being progressive metal just by saying they're not progressive metal.
Meshuggah is a djent band, not "just another djent band" because they are probably the best one but they meet all the qualifications of what djent is to me. The rhythmical complexity, and a little that typical djent distortion sound but that's not at all as important as the rhythms usually define djent for me.
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Wait a second, it's all about rhythm, but you don't like drums playing 'awkward rhythms'?
I mean that broken, displaced thing that tech bands do where its never a backbeat.
I probably should have said groove instead of rhythm. with some bands it's just awkward for the sake of it and you just can't FEEL it.
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What's wrong with "djent"? And how is Meshuggah not that? As I see it Meshuggah was the ones who started it. And what do you mean "made up word"? A word has to come from somewhere and it has clearly developed into a genre which Meshuggah is pretty much leading whether they say the don't or not. For example Dream Theater wouldn't stop being progressive metal just by saying they're not progressive metal.
Meshuggah is a djent band, not "just another djent band" because they are probably the best one but they meet all the qualifications of what djent is to me. The rhythmical complexity, and a little that typical djent distortion sound but that's not at all as important as the rhythms usually define djent for me.
I didn't say anything was wrong with Djent but I hate that word though. Meshuggah themself have said they don't feel comfortable being called Djent because Djent bands often strives for complexity while Meshuggah wants to sound the opposite. They play their own kind of music that someone else (Periphery) labeled 10 years later by copy elements from their music. Which means it's a made up word by someone else. How can they meet up the qualifications of a genre or "movement" they didn't claim to build?
But if you really feel like it's important to categorize their music then please call them Djent if you like, it really dosen't matter.
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Well, if Meshuggah wants to sound like the opposite of complex then I must say they're doing a lousy job because however you slice it, Meshuggah's music is pretty complex. And Meshuggah doesn't have to have actually come up with the word or be claiming to have started or built anything. They're just the most popular band playing that type of music, the genre doesn't stand or fall on what Meshuggah thinks or says.
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Yes but they don't write complex music for the complexity. They wanted people to understand what they're playing even though it may be complex. That's why they play patterns and polyrythms over 4/4 to have a flow that most people could understand.
Anyway I get what your saying because it's easy to put them in the Djent folder because they influenced other bands which led to other people discover Meshuggah through those bands. As I said if someone would like to call them Djent then that's fine, I would more call them Extreme Metal.
Haake and Jens gives their thought on the matter:
https://youtu.be/Ry1Mm1q_FBg?t=27m22s
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Wait a second, it's all about rhythm, but you don't like drums playing 'awkward rhythms'?
I mean that broken, displaced thing that tech bands do where its never a backbeat.
I probably should have said groove instead of rhythm. with some bands it's just awkward for the sake of it and you just can't FEEL it.
Well even then, is it only possible for music to groove if it's in 4/4? Or is a groovy 7/8 possible, and then what about guitars in 7, and drums in 4? I mean, feeling music isn't at all an objective thing. There are Planet X songs in 19/16 that I find groovy, and I can certainly say that the polyrhytms in Meshuggah's music are groovy to me. Maybe it's something you have to get used to, to don't have that backbeat.
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It's possible for music to groove in any time sig - just listen to Gavin Harrison on The Sound Of Muzak - but I need to find an example of what I mean as I din't think i'm explaining it very well...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06Sbz_oM5sg&hd=1
^ Something like this. I just cannot get into it at all.
Meshuggah has way more groove than whatever that is...
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One thing Meshuggah does that's pretty smart is that for a lot of their songs, while the guitars are doing God knows what, the drums are actually keeping a simple 4/4 feel, except for the kick which is always in unison with the guitars. It really helps in making the songs feel much groovier and, well, musical. I love I Am Colossus, but it's a pretty bad example for the band in terms of groove.
New Millennium Cyanide Christ and Rational Gaze are good examples of what I'm talking about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHdFTxu5M38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkrjE4QRsys
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Pretty awesome if you haven't seen it yet:
MESHUGGAH - Konstrukting the Koloss [PART 1] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABIkYU3XsKs)
MESHUGGAH - Konstrukting the Koloss [PART 2] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb7kY93fDNE)
MESHUGGAH - Konstrukting the Koloss [PART 3] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAqR86Dr9E8)
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Yeah I saw that - Can't believe they used Cubase :lol
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One thing Meshuggah does that's pretty smart is that for a lot of their songs, while the guitars are doing God knows what, the drums are actually keeping a simple 4/4 feel, except for the kick which is always in unison with the guitars. It really helps in making the songs feel much groovier and, well, musical. I love I Am Colossus, but it's a pretty bad example for the band in terms of groove.
New Millennium Cyanide Christ and Rational Gaze are good examples of what I'm talking about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHdFTxu5M38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkrjE4QRsys
Yeah, that's what makes them awesome. I always try to follow the snare pattern. The funny thing is that all the snare hits sound like weird syncopated rhythms over the crazy riffs, while most of the time they're just on the 2 and 4.
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So what genre is Meshuggah considered by most people? My first thought is usually Death Metal because of the growling vocals and overall heaviness. But clearly there is something different then them. I'v heard them described as Math Metal, but I'm not really sure what that means.
Other then listening to 'I' once or twice years ago, then only Meshuggah I'v heard is 'Catch-33", the whole album. It's some of the most amazing music I'v ever heard. I'm not a fan of the growling vocal style so common in death/doom/black metal. Of course, Meshuggah has that style of vocals, but it doesn't really bother me because it suits them quite well. Although i did wish the lyrics could actually be understood because the lyrics for Catch-33 are really really interesting and awesome!
Catch-33 isn't actually considered a full-length studio album by the band, right? It's one big concept. I love it. The music is so dark, like the darkest metal I'v ever heard. The guitars, bass, everything! There's patterns that feel textured, and goes through repetitions that make it sound hypnotic. The repetitions and patterns are done in a similar way to what Tool does, just taken to a whole new level. Tool and Meshuggah are similar in that way; at times, they create haunting and hypnotic music through the use of repeated patterns. I remember hearing that Adam Jones was a fan and parts of 10 000 Days were influenced by them. But I think they may have been influenced by Tool also.
I don't know what other Meshuggah i should listen to. I buy CDs (apparently thats going out of style??), and I'm thinking of looking for more Meshuggah. I don't know if they can top Catch-33. Have they? Given my taste, what would you recommend i buy next?
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I consider them to be simply groove/technical metal, or just metal, because it gets old having to come up with more and more subcategories.
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I know for a fact they hate labeling their own music. I would simply call them a metal band.
I don't know what other Meshuggah i should listen to. I buy CDs (apparently thats going out of style??), and I'm thinking of looking for more Meshuggah. I don't know if they can top Catch-33. Have they? Given my taste, what would you recommend i buy next?
You have to check out the rest of their disco because if you ask me Catch-33 is one of their weaker albums and also for the fact that their using programmed drums.
Destroy Erase Improve
Chaosphere
Nothing
Koloss
These are essential albums if you ask me.
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obZen is the best by far. It's interesting that you started with I and Catch 33, as they're easily the most experimental releases from the band.
I'd agree with shack-a-lack that Catch 33 is one of their weaker albums. It's an interesting experiment, but it doesn't really get good until the second half and aside from the calm sections that drag out for a bit too long it's very same-y sounding. (Hell, the whole album is a single tempo)
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Surprised to hear opinions that Catch 33 is one of their weaker works. For me i love expirimental metal like that. I like the whole vibe of it, whether or not it actually is a single tempo throughout. It's just a fuckin great, hypnotic, almost psychedelic experience. So they used programmed drums on it? Well cool i like how it sounds, thats part of the sound that i like so much about it.
I haVE odd tastes in music. Maybe i wont like much else by them, because i fucking love Catch 33. I'd say it's one of the best musical experiences i'v had, up there with Listening to Tool high (in particular, Lateralus. 10k Days works too). Never listened to Catch 33 high tho.
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Yea but if you really like Catch-33 that much you should give their other albums a chance, they deserve it! :P
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I call Meshuggah a djent band, or the djent band. I am one of those people who has just fully accepted "djent" as a genre, and Meshuggah is just spot on djent.
As a single song, Catch 33 is my favorite Meshuggah song, but it's not as good as ObZen and Nothing as an album. And I don't think you should listen to Destroy Erase Improve or Chaosphere or Contradictions Collapse (at least first) if you love the style of Catch 33, then I'd start with ObZen and Nothing, which has the same vibe.
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I heard a few songs off the 2 albums you said, the ones i probably shouldn't check out. They were more, you know....song-like. They were like 5, 6 minutes. Nothing wrong with that of course, but not like Catch 33 at all. From what i remember they sounded like pretty typical death metal to me.
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I heard a few songs off the 2 albums you said, the ones i probably shouldn't check out. They were more, you know....song-like. They were like 5, 6 minutes. Nothing wrong with that of course, but not like Catch 33 at all. From what i remember they sounded like pretty typical death metal to me.
Funny you say that when C-33 have 2-3min songs combined into a large track. To say that Nothing sounds like typical Death Metal is a pretty narrow minded thing to say.
Here's some examples:
Straws Pulled At Random (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmVzqjycA-o)
Electric Red (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2stcnTvHlY) 3:29 :metal
I Am Colossus (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW2sWSgofbg) Atleast listen to 2:04 that riff and onwards is pure fuckin metal! :metal :metal
Sane (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRiITvrV8dA) Some old school Meshuggah. It's amazing this track is from 1998, they were so ahead of it's time. 2:44 until the end is the important part, who would have thought you could implement a valse into a metal track. :lol
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My top five Meshuggah songs would probably be:
1: Dancers To A Discordant System (obZen)
2: New Millennium Cyanide Christ (Chaosphere)
3: I
4: obZen
5: Do Not Look Down (Koloss)
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I heard a few songs off the 2 albums you said, the ones i probably shouldn't check out. They were more, you know....song-like. They were like 5, 6 minutes. Nothing wrong with that of course, but not like Catch 33 at all. From what i remember they sounded like pretty typical death metal to me.
Funny you say that when C-33 have 2-3min songs combined into a large track. To say that Nothing sounds like typical Death Metal is a pretty narrow minded thing to say.
yeah, there's really nothing "typical death metal" at all about any Meshuggah record. the closest they ever got was Contradictions Collapse, but even then it sounds more like And Justice For All than actual death metal. no blast beats, no growls — can't really play death metal without them!
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North American tour with BTBAM opening. :metal :metal :metal
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STRAWS.
PULLED.
AT.
MOTHERFUCKING.
RANDOM.
:letam: :2metal: :metal
That is all.
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STRAWS.
PULLED.
AT.
MOTHERFUCKING.
RANDOM.
:letam: :2metal: :metal
That is all.
Agreed. My favorite song by them.
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Just watched the Alive DVD yesterday, Electric Red absolutely slays live
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MESHUGGAH live at Gröna Lund, Stockholm, 31-05-2014:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aSZEg1l31s
Tight as usual!
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Man, those live renditions of the songs from Contradictions Collapse sound so much better than the originals.
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NEW LIVE DVD/BLU-RAY DETAILS REVEALED!
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Commemorating the 25-year anniversary since the recording of their first EP, MESHUGGAH have announced the artwork and the track listing to their upcoming live DVD / 2-CD release 'The Ophidian Trek,' due out worldwide this fall and also available in Blu-ray.
PRE-ORDER 'The Ophidian Trek' at:
Europe: https://www.omerch.eu/shop/meshuggah/products.php?cat=3983
North America: https://bit.ly/mesh-tot-nbusa
With visual footage shot in the U.S. & Europe during The Ophidian Trek tour and festival footage from Wacken Open Air 2013 in Germany, the live audio was processed & edited by MESHUGGAH guitarist Fredrik Thordendal, mixed by Daniel Begstrand (MESHUGGAH, DIMMU BORGIR, BEHEMOTH), and mastered by Mats “Limpan” Lindfors (ROXETTE, OPETH, MANDO DIAO).
Drummer Tomas Haake shares the following about the upcoming DVD:
“We’re really stoked about this new MESHUGGAH live DVD! It’s been 4 years since the release of ‘Alive’ and with the band celebrating 25 years, we felt that we just had to get another one of these puppies out there! Audio/Video was recorded during our European stretch of ‘The Ophidian Trek’ tour, as well as at the Wacken Open Air festival - and we’re super proud of how it came out! For this one we used the extremely talented photographer Anthony Dubois for filming and editing, etc. and he’s really done a stunning job with it! Hope you guys dig it and here’s to another 25 (or maybe just a little less)!!”
The Ophidian Trek’s track listings are:
Live DVD:
01 - Swarmer
02 - Swarm
03 - Combustion
04 - Rational Gaze
05 - obZen
06 - Lethargica
07 - Do Not Look Down
08 - The Hurt That Finds You First
09 - I Am Colossus
10 - Bleed
11 - Demiurge
12 - New Millennium Cyanide Christ
13 - Dancers To A Discordant System
14 - Mind's Mirrors / In Death - Is Life / In Death - Is Death
15 - The Last Vigil
Live CD 1:
01 - Swarmer
02 - Swarm
03 - Combustion
04 - Rational Gaze
05 - obZen
06 - Lethargica
07 - Do Not Look Down
08 - The Hurt That Finds You First
09 - I Am Colossus
Live CD 2:
01 - Bleed
02 - Demiurge
03 - New Millennium Cyanide Christ
04 - Dancers To A Discordant System
05 - Mind's Mirrors / In Death - Is Life / In Death - Is Death
06 - The Last Vigil
The Ophidian Trek is MESHUGGAH’s second live DVD, the first being 2010’s Alive, which debuted at #8 on the U.S. Nielsen SoundScan Top Music DVD Video chart
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I would have preferred one from the most recent 25th anniversary tour, tbh.
But hey, I never get live DVDs anyways, so whatever. :lol
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I would have preferred one from the most recent 25th anniversary tour, tbh.
But hey, I never get live DVDs anyways, so whatever. :lol
agreed. there aren't any unexpected choices (nor any from earlier than Chaosphere). the 25th anniversary tour set blows it away by comparison.
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I hear that I is getting a 10th anniversary reissue as well. To be released on the same day as The Ophidian Trek if I'm not mistaken.
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I hear that I is getting a 10th anniversary reissue as well. To be released on the same day as The Ophidian Trek if I'm not mistaken.
Yup. It's also got Pitch Black on it if you didn't get it back when it came out. It's a pretty cool song.
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I don't really understand the inclusion of live versions of Bleed and Dancers To A Discordant System in the I reissue though. Kinda seems redundant if these are the same versions that'll end up on The Ophidian Trek. A live track or two from the Nothing/I tour would've made more sense IMO.
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"Do Not Look Down" from the new DVD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FE7AuXNi2rU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FE7AuXNi2rU)
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Insanely tight as usual. I'm curious to know how much polish they do to the raw live mix? I've seen them live two times and they're always sound amazing and clear so i'm not doubting their ability to play. I know for a fact that they "gate" their guitar sounds live to get rid of unnecessary noises.
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I don't really understand the inclusion of live versions of Bleed and Dancers To A Discordant System in the I reissue though. Kinda seems redundant if these are the same versions that'll end up on The Ophidian Trek. A live track or two from the Nothing/I tour would've made more sense IMO.
they're not from Ophidian Trek — "Dancers" was released with "Pitch Black" in 2006, and "Bleed" is probably from the same recordings.
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I don't really understand the inclusion of live versions of Bleed and Dancers To A Discordant System in the I reissue though. Kinda seems redundant if these are the same versions that'll end up on The Ophidian Trek. A live track or two from the Nothing/I tour would've made more sense IMO.
they're not from Ophidian Trek — "Dancers" was released with "Pitch Black" in 2013, and "Bleed" is probably from the same recordings.
Fixed it for ya! Pitch Black was released as a free download single by ScionAV last year with a live version of Dancers as its "B-side". I'm just wondering if the live version of Dancers and the one that's going to be on Ophidian Trek are the same or different performances.
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So here's Dancers from TOT:
https://youtu.be/uq2HNLTxaZc?list=PLB4brr7vf-P7kx6j8S4UP4WlDDZLBpC5f
Don't really like his snare sound, sounds a bit weak to be honest. A little more "umff" would be nice other than that it sounds awesome!
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Glorious stuff:
https://youtu.be/ymSb_EThxrw?list=UUxLbFcGicScOE07gwngd18g
:lol
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Some kind of studio report by Thomas Haake, well not really but it's Haake in creative mode.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYjjwL022-0
Cool stuff.
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Insanely tight as usual. I'm curious to know how much polish they do to the raw live mix? I've seen them live two times and they're always sound amazing and clear so i'm not doubting their ability to play. I know for a fact that they "gate" their guitar sounds live to get rid of unnecessary noises.
They probably don't even use cabs & send a feed from Axe FX direct to the PA. The drums are probably all samples too. ** The vocals are probably the only true
"live" sound.
** perhaps with microphones to blend in a live drum sound to sound less triggered. This is how a friend of mine used to record. Triggers on the whole kit
and some ambient microphones to get the overall kit sound. Sounded great.
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So hopefully a new Meshuggah album in 2016, awesome!
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Some kind of studio report by Thomas Haake, well not really but it's Haake in creative mode.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYjjwL022-0
Cool stuff.
Really cool video. Thanks for sharing!
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MeSugar | Meshuggah played with Sugary Foods (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ggb8Yet8uMQ)
I've said it before but the short lead at 3:14 in SPAR becomes so strong when it's used so sparsely. Brilliant stuff!
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MeSugar | Meshuggah played with Sugary Foods (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ggb8Yet8uMQ)
I've said it before but the short lead at 3:14 in SPAR becomes so strong when it's used so sparsely. Brilliant stuff!
That video was awesome!
I wish they would do more stuff like SPAR. I know they have a sound and style. But anything they do that sounds remotely melodic fits well, and is such a nice breath of fresh air.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiWooHU7dDI
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Crazy video. It was funny for a couple of seconds, and then it was awesome. And then it wasn't good enough to be awesome anymore.
Anyway the only really great meshuggah drum covers are from Troy Wright.
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New album update, kind of. Just a picture of a mic'd up snare.
https://www.facebook.com/meshuggah/posts/10154111251521170:0
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Bring it on, i'm ready!
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Meshuggah record their instruments with microphones ? !
I thought they wrote everything out in MIDI a crotchet at a time and recorded guitar directly into Cubase via digital amps or whatever.
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I think Fredrik and Haake program all drumtracks as demos and clicktracks before they record anything after that they record the acoustic drums and everything as usual.
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Yes, only Catch 33 has programmed drums, all others are legit recorded drums.
Also, excited for a new album!
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Yes, only Catch 33 has programmed drums, all others are legit recorded drums.
Also, excited for a new album!
Technically, Nothing redux (2006/blue cover) is halfsies – they used the real drums to trigger Drumkit From Hell sounds, so it basically sounds as programmed as Catch 33 even though none of it is.
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Add War from Rare Trax to the list, apparently their first song using programmed drums which is pretty obvious when you listen. :lol Although i've heard Kai Hahto cover the song with his band.
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The best part of War is someone laughs at some point, knowing how ridiculous the song is.
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I love "War!" Great song that is too short. Tomas Haake could easily learn it these days.
Makes you wonder how many contemporary tech death bands listened to it on repeat. Another of the many ways Meshuggah have always been ahead.
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The best part of War is someone laughs at some point, knowing how ridiculous the song is.
Yea I just listen to it and it's Jens that laughs after a scream. :lol
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The CD's title and artwork were apparently revealed in the new issue of Revolver magazine, which features a full-page ad for the effort.
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So that's apparently the title for their next album and it's coming in october! :metal :corn
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Fucking hype!
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The day before my birthday! I guess I'm just gonna pull the trigger on the vinyl whenever it goes up, because this band gets the shitty end of the stick in that format for some reason. If you don't buy it on wax when it comes out, good luck ever getting it for a decent price ever again.
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Official artwork and tracklist for The Violent Sleep of Reason:
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01 - Clockworks
02 - Born in Dissonance
03 - MonstroCity
04 - By the Ton
05 - Violent Sleep of Reason
06 - Ivory Tower
07 - Stifled
08 - Nostrum
09 - Our Rage Won't Die
10 - Into Decay
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The artwork is very similar to Koloss, which I think is weird, and the font for the album title is pretty wonky. Like, death-metal-band-trying-to-have-a-evil-looking-and-edgy-font wonky. But whatever, I'm pumped for new Meshuggah music.
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Also, preorders are up on Nuclear Blast. Just bought the black vinyl set.
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Pretty cool artwork! Like the song titles, especially Born of Dissonance.
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Also, preorders are up on Nuclear Blast. Just bought the black vinyl set.
I got it on clear. Fact is, buy it now or you'll never see the records in print again until the label does a ripoff anniversary box set. How such a popular (in metal, anyway) band went so long with so many celebrated albums without reissues is mindblowing in the worst possible way. Chaosphere never saw the light of day since it first came out! To say Nuclear Blast is pretty irresponsible about it is just the beginning.
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Bump because they posted "Born in Dissonance." (https://youtu.be/xtO3VCu5wv4) Really interesting riffs in this one, running all over the fretboard more than usual.
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Cool song, it probably won't be a favorite but pretty cool. Only listened once so far though.
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Such a cool riff! I'm diggin it alot, it's just so in your face but still groovy as hell! :metal :metal :metal :metal
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I've listened to it, about fifteen times today. The rythmic design is amazing as always, and the part after the solo gives me goosebumps. I wouldn't be surprised if the new album kicks Koloss's ass.
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I've listened to a couple of Meshuggah albums and to the new song and I share some of the thoughts of the first page of this topic: that they are very repetitive. It seems they are heavy for the sake of being heavy, there is never a pause for the listener to breathe. The vocals mostly never stop and they also sound the same on every song. I saw a lot of people defending them because they are "technical", well.. so are most prog bands, being metal or not.
I know a lot of bands copy them (including some bands I like), but I could never get into them. Maybe I am "listening wrong". I'd rather listen to old Opeth.
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I don't think you can listen to it wrong. If it's not your thing it's not your thing. I personally love them though, not because the technical side (although that's always cool too) but more for the feeling I get when I listen to them.
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Yea they've pretty much stuck with the same formula for 20 years, well not completly but i'm just saying they have a very distinct sound and idea of how they want their music to sound. It's not for everyone but they're not writing music for anyone but themself, sounds selfish but it's really not.
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Catch 33 is my favorite from them and the monotonous repetitiveness is one of the things that makes this song (or record) so great. Don't know if this makes sense and I don't know if anyone can relate to it, but those endless riffs and screaming over it with little variation (for most parts) drag me right into the music. I always compare this to running, it is monotonous and boring, but after some time you don't feel it anymore and can actually enjoy what you're doing.
It doesn't work with every song, but they are unique in how they sound, I appreciate that.
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I'm with ChuckSteak. I've tried with Meshuggah several times, but I just can't do monotonous, repetitive and boring. I can appreciate their technical prowess, but I would take Tool every single day.
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MESHUGGAH - Lyrical Inspiration: The Violent Sleep of Reason (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO0aRxBIEPU)
A new track is playing in the background, i'm guessing it's the title track. Anyway, it's sounds eerie as hell and chaotic from what I can hear.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3vxIoCOvxQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3vxIoCOvxQ)
New track 'Nostrum'. This one is brutal as hell.
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That's what I call a proper ear assault of the awesome kind.
Haake told Metal Hammer that MESHUGGAH recorded "The Violent Sleep Of Reason" live in the studio — marking the first time they have done that "in 20-25 years." He said: "It was time limitations that stopped us doing it before. And it's been interesting.
"If you put it all together using computers, then you often have to fix problems after the fact. I've gone back to records where I've not known every drum part. And once you do that, you can start with drums and then just add layers of guitars and then bass and it all sounds perfect.
I love that it's all played live in the studio, it's a very organic sound they're going for.
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Nostrum (DRUM PLAYTHROUGH w/ TOMAS HAAKE) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPW0AWDmfJQ)
Looks so much fun to play. :metal
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So, new tour dates announced.
Actually not sure if these dates had been announced before and it's the support that's just been announced. Either way, this is the first time I've seen this. Quite tempted as I used to be a huge fan of The Haunted. They're still a pretty good band but I don't listen so much.
I've never seen Meshuggah though. I've got quite a few of their albums and I have to be in the mood but I know they would be brutal live!! If the tickets are reasonable I'll probably go to the Bristol show :metal
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So, new tour dates announced.
Actually not sure if these dates had been announced before and it's the support that's just been announced. Either way, this is the first time I've seen this. Quite tempted as I used to be a huge fan of The Haunted. They're still a pretty good band but I don't listen so much.
I've never seen Meshuggah though. I've got quite a few of their albums and I have to be in the mood but I know they would be brutal live!! If the tickets are reasonable I'll probably go to the Bristol show :metal
I've seen them twice now in Toronto and it's always incredible!
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Yea don't miss out if you haven't seen them before. Although it's been a while since the last time I saw them they're always awesome live.
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New album's out today and midway through the album and have to say it feels very different so far for a Meshuggah album. Will reserve judgement on it until it's sunk in. I'm getting a very different vibe on this album.
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Listened to the whole thing maybe 3 or 4 times. I like listening to it but as always with Meshuggah it will probably take a long time to sink in. I've only recently begun to fully appreciate some of the Koloss songs.
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I got halfway through the record on my morning commute and thoroughly enjoyed it. Will listen to the rest this afternoon.
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Wow Clockworks just floored me, might be one of the most technical songs they've written. Then again I haven't heard the rest of the album yet. :P
Jebus almighty, the verse riff in Monstrocity!!
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Killer album.
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Have to say the production is stellar and the live takes are probably why it sounds so organic and raw.
Clockworks, Monstrocity and Stifled stands out at the moment. Clockworks just for being a tour-de-force of epic porportions. Both Monstocity and Stifled brings the groove while still being heavy as fuck.
This album feels like a mix between the Chaosphere era and the more modern Meshuggah.
Damn i'm all over this album atm! :metal
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I'd say By the Ton, Violent Sleep of Reason, and Our Rage Won't Die are standouts for me at the moment. Clockworks is growing on me though, and Ivory Tower is really cool too.
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Yea man lots of great tracks on the album, I need to give this album the proper time to sink in.
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This album is absolutely killer indeed!
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Really good album, and a pretty accessible one compared to Koloss and ObZen (tried both of these in the past but never fully got into them bar a few songs).
Favorite song is definitely By the Ton so far, Ivory Tower, title-track and Into Decay are right behind it.
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I can't tell if I like this or Koloss more. Needs more listens, perhaps.
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Fantastic album, just initially gives off the impression to me that it's one of their best and most entertaining albums. Meshuggah songs often sound a lot alike, sometimes lacking identity. But this album seems different, like every track has its own unique approach with just enough accessible hooks, even with hints of conventional harmonies here and there. The production might be their best yet too, it sounds utterly fantastic. Love the ambient tones and heaviness. What more could I ask for, a definite highlight of 2016 for sure.
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It's weird they don't often do "riffs" but rhythms.
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I used to own Obzen and Koloss but didn't listen too often.
A friend once gave me "Nothing" on CD and I found it tedious. Almost like one riff for an hour.
They've got more interesting since.
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I think their style on Nothing is my favorite, as in that's my favorite type of Meshuggah riffs. But as an album with the best songs I like ObZen the most. And I think Catch 33 has the best production.
Koloss was a bit too grainy for me. TVSoR is a step back in the right direction production wise.
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Well, I really like this record. As far as Meshuggah does melodies, this one is easily their most 'melodic'. Lots of solo passages for guitars make it very interesting throughout. I'm very pleased with this record.
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Only given it one listen so far, and I'm hardly a huge Meshuggah fan, but it sounds solid. My main issue with Meshuggah is that I find the vocals monotonous and don't particularly enjoy them. For people who love that approach that's great but I think for me it just adds to the feeling that it all sounds very samey.
I'll definitely give more listens as I dig a bit of Meshuggah when I'm in the right mood. Still might try to get tickets to see them soon as I bet they destroy live.
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I saw Meshuggah live around 4 yeara ago at a festival I happened to be at. I was not into them back then and it was pretty much the most boring concert I've ever been to. Everything sounded the same and, although it was very tight and all, the constant heaviness made the heaviness boring and, frankly, not really heavy at all. I would love to see them again though, because I think I would understand what they're doing a lot better now that I know their music.
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I love Meshuggah and not only their music but how they compose their music with all the rythmic layers and as a drummer I love to nerd out on rythmic patterns, I just find it satisfiying. However whenever I listen and I lose focus on what they do musically I get a bit bored. 2-3 songs in a row is basically what I prefer because then I can keep the excitment intact. I rarely listen to a whole Meshuggah album, it's more a song here and there because it's to much basically but that dosen't make the songs less interesting. I just need to be in the right mood and keep my focus.
I mean honestly the small things is what I enjoy the most about Meshuggah, for example the riff and groove that start at 0:40 in Stifled and how the riff meets the basic 4/4 that Haake plays, I LOVE stuff like that so much and I can play it over and over again. The absolutly crushing part that start at 4:14 in Clockworks is another little tiny bit, it sounds so simple but yet it's almost like I would say that's how I would imagine the most bad-ass metal band to sound like. It's so in your face and raw sounding. I mean honestly there's no other band like Meshuggah out there when you really pay attention to all the details they put into their songs and I respect their originality so much.
I would go so far to say that of all the aggressive metal music that's out there Meshuggahs music are the most aggressive sounding imo and maybe that's because they don't rely on corpspaint or being aggressive on stage, it's all in their music instead.
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Mr. Boom, that totally makes sense. I could understand having a much greater appreciation and digging it more if I was coming at it from a drummers perspective.
But I also struggle, as you as a huge fan do, to listen to too much of their music in one sitting. I like you're point about them being an insanely aggressive band without relying on anything other than their music to get that across :metal
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On repeated listens, love the album to death. Great riffs again, just hypnotizing at times.
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The video for clockworks is really bizarre.
It's like those mental dreams you have when you're really ill.
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I went for a run today with this album blasting through my earbuds, and as I was nearing the end, the outro to Stifled was playing. It was transcendental to me. Rivals the outro of Straws Pulled at Random.
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dudes I'm pissed because I can never understand the appeal of these guys but maybe I'm starting in the wrong place, are any of their albums a particularly good place to start
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dudes I'm pissed because I can never understand the appeal of these guys but maybe I'm starting in the wrong place, are any of their albums a particularly good place to start
Probably their new album if you ask me. You have to enjoy insanely complex and heavy music, that's for sure. Just don't make the vocals your focal point of listening. The vocals are cool, but the syncopation of the drums and guitars is what it's all about.
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Yes. Try ObZen.
Or the latest record.
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dudes I'm pissed because I can never understand the appeal of these guys but maybe I'm starting in the wrong place, are any of their albums a particularly good place to start
I think I started with Catch 33 when I picked it up about 10 years ago, dirt cheap. I like that album but some parts of it are VERY repetitive. I think Obzen could be a good place to start but again, I'm hardly a huge fan. Others could probably help you out more than me.
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I would also say ObZen is the best place to start.
The video for clockworks is really bizarre.
It's like those mental dreams you have when you're really ill.
I think the video is cool, but it doesn't seem like a music video. If it was a lyrics video, it might have been like the coolest lyric video ever made. But as a full on music video, it didn't really do much for me.
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For me it was obZen that made me love these guys. Prior to that I had heard some of their stuff but never liked it and couldn't enjoy it at all. Several tracks on obZen I feel are accessible while still retaining their signature polyrhythmic riffs. Once their style stuck with me, I went again and listened to their backlog and was able to really enjoy it. I'm a huge fan of them now though don't listen much to stuff older than Nothing.
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will check out obzen then :lol
Only listened to nothing before but it bored me
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It was Nothing that drew me in and it's Catch 33 that's my favorite. The repetitiveness and monotony puts me in a kind of trance when listening to it. And Bleed from ObZen might be the heaviest piece of music in my collection.
Haven't heard the new one yet but will give it a try.
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Yeah I have no problem listening to an entire Meshuggah album. Especially Nothing, Catch 33, and ObZen.
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Again it's the subtle things, just noticed the guitar chords he picks during the chorus in Clockworks.
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I saw Meshuggah live around 4 yeara ago at a festival I happened to be at. I was not into them back then and it was pretty much the most boring concert I've ever been to. Everything sounded the same and, although it was very tight and all, the constant heaviness made the heaviness boring and, frankly, not really heavy at all. I would love to see them again though, because I think I would understand what they're doing a lot better now that I know their music.
Ha, I remember that. Distortion Eindhoven, right?
I have to say, I've also been listening to this band recently. I started out with Catch33, and I'm pretty intrigued by it. I also liked ObZen but I haven't really listened to their other albums. This really is music I have to be in the mood for though.
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Ha, I remember that. Distortion Eindhoven, right?
Yes! You were there too :)
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I just read this review:
https://www.metalsucks.net/2016/10/05/review-meshuggah-separate-kids-grown-ups-violent-sleep-reason/
... and I kind of have to agree. This is their best one yet. What a record!
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Love this quote:
"The Violent Sleep of Reason is a freaking tour-de-force; a total deconstruction of heavy music."
I was listening on the album with earbuds and I have to say listening with some quality headphones instead really does make a huge diffrence. The overall sound is so much meatier and everything sounds so raw and clear, the guitar tone comes to life. Haven't listened in my car yet, usually that's a good place to crank up the volume. Hopefully my speakers won't mind. :lol
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This record is just earth-shattering. The fact that I'm blown away by it after having heard so much heavy music says enough for me. That moment in Clockworks where it introduces that bouncy riff that carries on throughout almost the remainder of the song, good lord how did they come up with that?
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I've been listening to the Play music version so far and am waiting for the CD version tomorrow, can't wait to listen to all the chugging riffs on it.
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This record is just earth-shattering. The fact that I'm blown away by it after having heard so much heavy music says enough for me. That moment in Clockworks where it introduces that bouncy riff that carries on throughout almost the remainder of the song, good lord how did they come up with that?
Agreed, so many great moments on this one. My favourite part of the record overall right now is the "Stifled" and "Nostrum" combo.
The fact that nary a thing fades out is very telling too, i.e. the only reason so many 'shuggah songs fade out is because they get lazy (and/or frustrated) writing songs in Cubase and pick the easiest way to end the song. Rehearsing the songs live as a band first encourages making a real ending!
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It's mad they use Cubase. Not *even* Pro Tools or Logic.
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Album is not bad.
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I was just listening to it while my brother (not a metal fan at all) entered the room. He commented that it sounds like there's a demon being slaughtered. Pretty accurate description, I have to agree.
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Just listened to Clockworks all the way through via Tomas Haake's drumthrough vid :tup
Enjoyable but I don't know how often I could listen to it.
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Funny album review by Ola Englund, the guitarist in The Haunted:
New Meshuggah vs. DOOM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPITurMgWN8)
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Meshuggah crushin Clockworks live:
https://youtu.be/rhM4wYPcD3c
Better quality:
https://youtu.be/yfM8kONQPvU
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I've listened to Catch 33 so fucking much lately!! :angel:
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I was reading Prog magazine's December issue and Meshuggah drummer Tomas Haake took a little shot at Dream Theater. He called them "regressive metal."
"Personally I feel like there's a big difference between prog and progressive. I definitely see us as progressive in the sense that we are trying to push the boundaries of what we are doing within a set genre, but at the same time there's not a lot of connecting points with what I see as 'prog.' I guess for me the evolution of prog -- and I could be wrong and people will say I'm stupid! -- it turned into bands like dream theater, and I can't stand to listen to them, I can't take it. I don't know exactly why. A lot of that stuff seems like regressive metal to me."
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>meshuggah
>pushing boundaries
not like he's particularly wrong about DT these days but coming from this band of all bands, it's just, funny
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I think they both push boundaries, just in diffrent ways. DT by doing something diffrent to them for every new album but I wouldn't say they push the boundaries of prog metal, not anymore atleast.
Meshuggah always challenge the listener even though some would say everything sounds the same. They basically created their own genre and while alot of bands have copied them no band really sounds like them and imo they are with out a doubt still the most interesting and creative within that genre. They may not push the boundaries of their own genre as much anymore but they certainly are the leaders.
They're more interesting than DT these days but that's just my opinion.
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Judging by the last five DT albums, I definetely agree. And I'm a fan of two of those five, but still.
Although, I'm not really enjoying Meshuggah's latest as much as I'd hoped either.
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I thought he was referring to bands that sound like DT (aka copycats) - after all, I've read that Portnoy was one of his drumming influences.
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I thought he was referring to bands that sound like DT (aka copycats) - after all, I've read that Portnoy was one of his drumming influences.
I don't think so. I think it was really a jab at DT and all other prog metal bands ala DT.
B.Lee
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This wouldn't be the first time Thomas Haake has mentioned his disdain for DT. I don't really bother with comments by band members that hate other bands. I still listen to them all.
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This wouldn't be the first time Thomas Haake has mentioned his disdain for DT. I don't really bother with comments by band members that hate other bands. I still listen to them all.
I get what you say. Yet, I just can't stand that sort of attitude. It makes people feel superior, it's a contest to show who has the bigger d***...? Why has someone to bash another person / band...when it us uncalled for?
B.Lee
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I don't belive it can be considered mindless bashing. He has a thought about a certain stream of music and expresses his thoughts on the subject (which frankly, I sorta agree with, although i think it applies to the likes of Opeth and most of the Neal Morse stuff rather than DT).
But like Parama said, it's hilarious that these words come out of the mouth of a Messhugah member, even though he stated that he is aware that Meshuggah stay relativrly close to their origins.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFzAurZscWc
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I don't think I shared this, maybe I did. Guy doing I on guitar, pretty much the only cover of it. Intro of the video is Tomas even saying they probably won't play it, due to it being put together as all over the place. Such a mostly unrelenting, heavy song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLfgsSVi5WY
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I don't know why I haven't checked out the latest Meshuggah album yet. I'm gonna rectumfy that tomorrow or maybe tonight but I'm really in the mood to watch Billy Elliot.
Edit: Listened to it. Lots of hype surrounding this album but it's nothing mind-blowing. It's a good album for sure but it really calls into question Haake's comment about Dream Theater's "progressiveness" ???
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Meshuggah - Knövelmetal (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSrfUK-sC94)
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- OUT WORLDWIDE -
Swedish extreme tech-metal pioneers Meshuggah are proud to release an exclusive collection of vinyl reissues celebrating the bands legacy. The collection offers a limited, one-time only pressing that includes re-imagined cover artwork, redesigned gatefold jackets and audio mastered for vinyl.
The reissues for Nothing, I, Catch Thirty-Three, obZen, and Koloss are available now at nuclearblast.com/meshuggah-reissues.
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The "I" artwork looks sick!
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As a drummer I love rythms and everything that comes along with it. Hearing rythms lock into eachother is like a wetdream for me. :P
Anyway, this just tickles that special place for me. I don't think it could be more Meshuggah like in terms of rythms and keeping the 4/4 no matter what: Vortex (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTqkm5CHKK4)
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There's a short rhythm that's quite similar to the ones in Bleed at the end. Cool stuff.
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There's a short rhythm that's quite similar to the ones in Bleed at the end. Cool stuff.
Someone linked this to me, it's apparently a bit more than just the feel of Meshuggah :omg: :lol https://youtu.be/U6vDBC1odrU
Here's with better sound: https://youtu.be/L1oMAc6yfPA
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It's funny, I love Meshuggah and have listen to them for many years but can only listen to them for some time before carrying over to something else. However I always keep coming back to them either by stumbling over a live clip or just needing that special fix that only Meshuggah can deliver. That happens a couple of times every year, the bands just fascinate me so much. They sound amazing live, have a unique sound and have had that sound way before this whole Djent thing ever was a thing.
Right know i'm gasping over Born in Dissonance, it's so freakin heavy it's insane.
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They are unlike anything else I ever heard. You SO have to be in the mood but they are utterly fantastic. When I'm into it and listening to it and can hear the two rhythms at the same time it feels like my brain is being rewired by some cosmic force from outer space.
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I feel the driving force in Meshuggah is Haakes drumming especially in the bands later years. However I think Jens the singer dosen't get enough recognition in a way. When you listen to the growling it's so much rythm based and in sync with the music which has be pretty hard to nail live. Especially when the music is as chaotic as it is.
I do know that Haake writes the lyrics and help Jens with the vocal rythms.
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That's an excellent point. Take "The Demon's Name is Surveillance" for example. The vocals in chorus follow exactly the single note punctuations on the guitar. "following...your...every..single move.." Though that's a Thordendal tune, I think the whole band tend to think rhythmically all the time.
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(https://scontent.fmmx3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/162319152_281770306638724_2616710105236403568_o.jpg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=OyAtumaWkU4AX9Mb2IE&_nc_ht=scontent.fmmx3-1.fna&oh=a88232895e9f62ad592f97aebcc53851&oe=607AEF60)
Let the tracking commence! :metal
Nice to see Haake changing things up with more toms on his kit.
I think the whole band tend to think rhythmically all the time.
Yea they probably have a very established way of feeling their own music and rythms after all these years playing and writing music together.
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Hope the new one's better than their last, Clockworks is amazing but it and MonstroCity were literally the only two tracks I liked from it
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No Born In Dissonance? :eek
I liked the last one but I get what you're saying. I don't often listen to any entire M album, though.
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Things are happening. As some of you figured out we have entered Sweetspot Studio and have begun recording a new album. *Spoiler* There will be distortion and kicks.
Also we have other news. We are releasing Per Nilsson back into the wild to roam free in any way he sees fit. It has been a true privilege and honor to share the stage with Per and even more importantly we have made a great friend through our travels. Per. We thank you. You are a formidable human being!!
So why are we releasing Per back into a more stable habitat you ask? The answer is simple. Fredrik will be back for lead work on the album as well as touring going forward. In other words. The Band is back together. In full effect.
(https://scontent.fmmx3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/164812400_284692876346467_294937835159862790_o.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=O-0oy4Hp9y4AX_h8CFz&_nc_ht=scontent.fmmx3-1.fna&oh=ca208f87327eb49b4832c2de396da89a&oe=608267BE)
Welcome back Fredrik! Hopefully your soloalbum is around the corner now! :metal
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Looking at that picture, Eddie Van Halen is present even in places I wouldn't expect him. ;)
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Awesome to hear that Fredrik's back! Will he contribute any material this time? Not that I have any issues with the songwriting on Violent Sleep (where Haake & Lovgren wrote the lion's share). These guys are more than capable of writing material together as we saw from Koloss. I think they demo everything in a computer before anyone even starts to work on "performing" the material.
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Looks like the new album is coming April 1, and will be called 'Immutable.'
(https://preview.redd.it/x353rympbw981.jpg?width=1500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=187b76a8ea52e9f0aa357d4bfc7cfcd19de38ace)
Album teaser here:
https://immutable.se/ (https://immutable.se/)
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That looks like a Disturbed album cover. :lol
Hoping this one has more than a couple good songs.
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Isn't that just a rumour or is it legit?
It really does look kinda gimmicky, I hope i'm right because that's the worst album cover i've seen by Meshuggah. :lol
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Yeah wasn't sure at first either, but it looks like the people on the Meshuggah subreddit confirmed that it's real.
Not too fond of that album cover either to be honest.
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Excited to hear this news. I'm sure the album will be good. Not keen on the cover art but the last good cover art was Nothing, imo.
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It was legit after all. Kinda bummed, both the cover and the music sounded very meh to me. Apparently the album is a behemoth according to the members
so i'm still pumped for this!
MESHUGGAH - Immutable Teaser (OFFICIAL ALBUM TEASER) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0o_UlnsA74&ab_channel=Meshuggah)
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It's the knife that's really the cherry on top for me.
WATCH OUT! That flaming nuclear skeleton has got A KNIFE! :lol
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:lol
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The new single is alright. It's very Meshuggah 101 but I like it. Great to hear Fredriks solos again. The latter heavy part was amazing. Can't wait to hear the other songs.
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More greatness. There's some slightly more uplifting melodies in there. And slightly more emphasis on the snare in places. Great solo. Jens is sounding monstrous. Love it.
I'm pretty down on extreme metal vocals these days. Sounds so standard/unimaginative/boring/unjustified/empty to me for the most part. But Jens really delivers. :metal
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Had a proper listen with headphones recently and man the sonic quality is intense. It's a brutally relentless song and I agree Jens vocals are so in your face. This is properly the closest thing to getting punched in the face by Haake!
I can't wait to blast this in my car!
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I'm actually pretty happy with it too. Wasn't super excited about their last album, but this sounds like a step in the right direction to me.
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It's the knife that's really the cherry on top for me.
WATCH OUT! That flaming nuclear skeleton has got A KNIFE! :lol
Just wanted to drop back in to say that this comment has been living rent free in my head for the past two months.
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Just been out for a run and listened to a chunk of the new album. Very nice.
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Been spinning this all weekend. Lots to enjoy here. The Lovgren penned tunes are especially "bouncy". Swedish funk :lol
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This is an excellent record. There's almost a playful vibe in places. And I love the slight variations they've pulled in too. Class act.
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Ligature Marks is an early favorite, so chunky.
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Can't get into the album, like, at all for some reason. It seems to lack standout moments and the production is super artificial. I was just digging how The Violent Sleep of Reason sounded, most notably in the drum department. There it sounds like the man is smacking the shit out of a real drum kit. Here it's just all samples or so it seems. It seems to lack energy and a certain creativitiy that tracks like Clockworks, Ivory Tower and Stifled did have on the previous record.
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Meshuggah has always been very repetitive and monotonous but I feel like the song quality on these past couple releases hasn't been up to their standards apart from a few exceptions. The songwriting credits might have something to do with that - it's basically all Hagström and Lövgren and no Thordendal.
Re: the new album: Broken Cog is good, Phantoms and Ligature Marks are alright, nothing else really stands out (and They Move Below is just really boring). Nothing anywhere close to the quality of Clockworks either, which was the one saving grace of the last album.
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Well, The Violent Sleep of Reason was mostly all Lovgren & Haake with barely any contributions from Hagstrom. The only difference I see in the writing department on this new one is Hagstrom is contributing much more than he did on the last one. Thordendal hasn't contributed anything to a Meshuggah record since Koloss.
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I'm still of the opinion that this is a step up from their last album. As buddyhunter said, Broken Cog, Phantoms, and Ligature Marks are the best tracks, probably with Phantoms as my personal favorite. I also see what you're saying about They Move Below. It's a bit too long for its tempo, making it feel like it drags, but there are still some cool stuff in there (I particularly like the ending riff).
As far as production, I actually like this better than the last one as well, but that's mostly on the guitar-side of things. Couldn't really say about the drums.
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Have been listening to this album in my car the whole week. I must say the sonic quality is top notch.
Highlight is the intro to The Faultless, man that basstone along with that riff is just mindblowing!
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Meshuggah - The Abysmal Eye (Lighting production rehearsal) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aznvTlZh5c&ab_channel=EdvardHansson)
It's really off the chains, what a package they delivere onstage. That's how you utilize lights in a proper way!
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I have to see this tour, probably the most well put together production they've done from the footage i've seen.
The buildup from Mind's Mirrors to In Death - Is Life is just immense with the lights and everything.
https://youtu.be/DskOb76E7eM?t=2389
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I have to see this tour, probably the most well put together production they've done from the footage i've seen.
The buildup from Mind's Mirrors to In Death - Is Life is just immense with the lights and everything.
https://youtu.be/DskOb76E7eM?t=2389
Holy Mother of God. :omg: :omg: :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
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I have to see this tour, probably the most well put together production they've done from the footage i've seen.
The buildup from Mind's Mirrors to In Death - Is Life is just immense with the lights and everything.
https://youtu.be/DskOb76E7eM?t=2389
Holy Mother of God. :omg: :omg: :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
I'd like to try and make time to watch this, with a few beers. After a few listens I'm quite liking the new album. I think it feels less of a full on assault of the senses, compared to like all their other albums. There are moments of calm between the chaos and I need that. I do find Meshuggah to be an exhausting listen at times.
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I have to see this tour, probably the most well put together production they've done from the footage i've seen.
The buildup from Mind's Mirrors to In Death - Is Life is just immense with the lights and everything.
https://youtu.be/DskOb76E7eM?t=2389
Holy Mother of God. :omg: :omg: :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
I'd like to try and make time to watch this, with a few beers. After a few listens I'm quite liking the new album. I think it feels less of a full on assault of the senses, compared to like all their other albums. There are moments of calm between the chaos and I need that. I do find Meshuggah to be an exhausting listen at times.
Oh man even though Meshuggah is one of my favourite metal bands even I can't listen to them too much in a stretch, no worries about that. Their music is immense and relentless but the way I see it I enjoy Meshuggah the most in moderate doses.
Btw someone mentioned the dude going absolutely bezerk at the top right corner of the standing area with the security getting worried about him. Just a little scene unfolding in the grand scheme of things. :lol https://youtu.be/DskOb76E7eM?t=4695
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Have been listening to this album in my car the whole week. I must say the sonic quality is top notch.
Highlight is the intro to The Faultless, man that basstone along with that riff is just mindblowing!
Spun this one fully again today. Great stuff. Reminds me why I loved this band in the first place.
Something that stuck out today was the almost-jazzy tempo weirdness at the end of I Am That Thirst. :tup
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjw7pCs4tD0
Some holy grail shit for old-school, None/DEI-era fans. 28 minutes of pro-shot footage from Swedish TV, of which only Humiliative has made the rounds before. The quality is killer for '97.
It's just a shame that Fredrik suffers from tech diffs for the majority of it, during his solos, to be precise. I believe it had something to do with his wireless setup and/or the "33" breath controller.
It's both awkward and strange that he didn't have the 33 strapped to the mic stand at this point.
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Saw Meshuggah with Converge last night, but I had to leave halfway through their set in order to catch the last train back home. :\ Looking at the setlist though, doesn't look like I missed too much. Pretty underwhelming choice of songs. The lighting and sound were fantastic though.
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Saw them tonight, haven't seen them in I think 15 years or something. Tight as always and the sound and light show was fantastic.
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Nice. Looking forward to seeing them again next time they roll past near me.
Listened to a few tracks of the obzen remaster. Was clearer but the eq was quite tinny, I thought. In all, preferred the original.
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They had a nice list of support bands. Orbit Culture, Scar Symmetry and The Halo Effect. Altough I only saw The Halo Effect. Stanne really is a great frontman and his vocals are solid. I just love how much he smiles onstage, you could tell the whole band enjoyed playing together. I thought that was really nice.
I have to give credit to Meshuggah for still going strong and it's cool seeing how much love they still get so late in their career. Despite playing such a extreme and complicated form of metal they headline a tour and play better than ever. I mean we have three Gandalfs in the band. :lol
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Meshuggah The Violent Sleep Of Reason live 2016 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKc33CA1WmY&ab_channel=EmaEkoe)
The fact that they just stand in the same position during all that chaos makes it even better.
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Saw Meshuggah live yesterday in Gothenburg. They were the final band I wanted to see that I hadn't yet seen live, and they definetely liverd up to the hype. Probably the best live show I've seen.
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Awesome. :smiley:
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Tomas Haake will appear on Drumeo this friday, can't wait to hear him play and breakdown his iconic drumparts.
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Awesome! :metal
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Ahh my bad, I thought it was him in person giving a lesson. Turns it was a deepdive into his playing by another drummer. :-\
Oh well, probably interesing that too.
The Genius Of Tomas Haake (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MwInJNGZrI&ab_channel=Drumeo)
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Alas, I'm not a fan of their "the genius of" videos. That's a bummer!