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Title: Frontmen of DTF
Post by: Progmetty on August 01, 2010, 08:50:28 PM
Originally in this post I was asking for names for favorite frontmen of bands here, just thought to mention that so the posts below would make sense.

Now here are the fellas that made it into the competition:

James Hetfield (Metallica)
Dave Mustaine (Megadeth)
Bruce Dickinson (Iron Maiden)
Tom Araya (Slayer)
Phil Anselmo (Pantera)

James LaBrie (Dream Theater)
Steven Wilson (Porcupine Tree)
Mikael Åkerfeldt (Opeth)
Russell Allen (Symphony X)
Daniel Gildenlöw (Pain of Salvation)

David Gilmour (Pink Floyd)
Freddy Mercury (Queen)
Ronnie James Dio (Black Sabbath)
Robert Plant (Led Zeppelin)
Ian Anderson (Jethro Tull)

Roger Waters (Pink Floyd)
Geddy Lee (Rush)
Jon Anderson (Yes)
Adrian Belew (King Crimson)
Peter Gabriel (Genesis)

Kurt Cobain (Nirvana)
Eddie Vedder (Pearl Jam)
Myles Kennedy (Alter Bridge)
Layne Staley (Alice in Chains)
Billie Joe Armstrong (Green Day)

Randy Blythe (Lamb of God)
Greg Puciato (The Dillinger Escape Plan)
Till Lindemann (Rammstein)
Devin Townsend (Strapping Young Lad)
Tommy Rogers (Between the Buried and Me)

Casey Crescenzo (The Dear Hunter)
Wayne Coyne (The Flaming Lips)
Claudio Sanchez (Coheed and Cambria)
Neal Morse (Transatlantic)
Roine Stolt (The Flower Kings)

Matthew Bellamy (Muse)
Maynard Keenan (Tool)
Steve Hogarth (Marillion)
Roy Khan (Kamelot)
Ozzy Osbourne (Black Sabbath)

The groups won't be in the same order listed here, the first survivor will start in the Polls/Survivors section in a few hours, thanks everybody for contributing, this might turn out to be fun :)
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: Adami on August 01, 2010, 08:51:49 PM
Devin Townsend.


Even though I'm sure most posts will just repeat a bunch since no one will read every post, I'll just add instead of repeating.
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: zxlkho on August 01, 2010, 08:53:17 PM
inb4MikaelÅkerfeldtandStevenWilson
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: Adami on August 01, 2010, 08:54:47 PM
He already said Wilson. But way to prove my point there bud.
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: zxlkho on August 01, 2010, 08:55:35 PM
Damn.

I'd also like to add Bruce Dickinson and Maynard James Keenan
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: skydivingninja on August 01, 2010, 08:56:13 PM
Devin Townsend, Mikael Akerfeldt, Bruce Springsteen, Bruce Dickinson, and Claudio Sanchez

I figure more than enough people will say Freddie Mercury.
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: Quadrochosis on August 01, 2010, 08:56:50 PM
Geddy Lee, Jon Anderson and Ian Anderson would be some that I'd nominate that aren't already nominated.
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: Accelerando on August 01, 2010, 08:57:07 PM
Freddy Mercury
Robert Plant
James Brown
Michael Jackson
Myles Kennedy


Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: Progmetty on August 01, 2010, 08:59:20 PM
He already said Wilson. But way to prove my point there bud.

:lol
I'd like to add Billie Joe Armstrong of Green Day but I wouldn't include him -since Green Day isn't a favorite cup of tea here- unless we come out short of 20 names here.
Got 7 names so far.
I forgot to mention I'm talking about frontmen of bands, not solo acts, if the band is the frontman's name then it's a solo act hehe

Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: The Letter M on August 01, 2010, 09:02:50 PM
James LaBrie, Geddy Lee, Neal Morse, Roine Stolt, Steve Hogarth, Steven Wilson, Nick D'Virgilio, Peter Gabriel (with Genesis, haven't really gotten into his solo stuff yet), Phil Collins (with Genesis, same about his solo stuff but I like his hit singles), Jon Anderson, and probably more, but those are the ones from my favorite bands.

I'll also echo the mentions of Freddy Mercury and Robert Plant, and toss in Roger Daltrey as well.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: Accelerando on August 01, 2010, 09:03:24 PM

I forgot to mention I'm talking about frontmen of bands, not solo acts, if the band is the frontman's name then it's a solo act hehe

Well if you're talking about my selections...

James Brown = The Famous Flames

Michael Jackson = Jackson 5
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: 73109 on August 01, 2010, 09:19:14 PM
James Hetfield-Metallica
Bruce Springsteen-Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band
Ronnie James Dio-Black Sabbath
Eddie Vedder-Pearl Jam
Bruce Dickinson-Iron Maiden
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: skydivingninja on August 01, 2010, 09:21:11 PM
I forgot to mention I'm talking about frontmen of bands, not solo acts, if the band is the frontman's name then it's a solo act hehe

Devin Townsend-Frontman of Strapping Young Lad, The Devin Townsend Band, and The Devin Townsend Project.
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: KevShmev on August 01, 2010, 11:26:41 PM
Freddie Mercury
Bono
Wayne Coyne
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: Dr. DTVT on August 01, 2010, 11:41:25 PM
Just to clarify - because these lists would be different - are we talking about straight-up singing ability, or as the whole package (energy on stage, ability to play other instruments, writing)?
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: Portrucci on August 01, 2010, 11:50:29 PM
Out of all the gigs I've been to, Devin and Akerfeldt clearly stand out. But Mikael takes the cake. Spent around 30 minutes of the gig telling stories and just mucking around with famous riffs. Crowd (incl me) just love it  :heart
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: DarkEternalNight on August 01, 2010, 11:51:49 PM
Till Lindemann, James Labrie, Geddy Lee, Maynard James Keenan, David Draiman, Serj Tankian, Chris Cornell.
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: Progmetty on August 02, 2010, 12:07:50 AM
Just to clarify - because these lists would be different - are we talking about straight-up singing ability, or as the whole package (energy on stage, ability to play other instruments, writing)?

Exactly the whole package, I was gonna include this in the survivor itself under "Criteria", it's gonna be:

- Singing voice.
- Stage presence and energy.
- Dual instruments (plays an instrument while singing).
- Importance to the band sound.
- Contribution and involvement in the band's writing process.
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: 73109 on August 02, 2010, 12:09:40 AM
In that case, my votes still stand.
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: Genowyn on August 02, 2010, 12:36:43 AM
That dual instruments thing cuts out a lot of really great frontmen. Based on that criteria:

Mikael Akerfeldt and Devin Townsend are probably the greatest frontmen I've ever had the pleasure of witnessing on stage. They both performed exceedingly well and built awesome rapport with the audience, they had great energy on stage and were all around awesome. This on top of the fact that they're both the driving musical force behind their bands makes them excellent candidates.
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: Progmetty on August 02, 2010, 12:44:20 AM
Cool, I have 30 names now, which is too much for a single survivor, so I thought to break them off into groups of 10 names and then let the 3 finalists compete, what do you guys think?
In which case it would be better if we get to 50 names so that there's 5 finalists.
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: The Letter M on August 02, 2010, 12:47:24 AM
Just to clarify - because these lists would be different - are we talking about straight-up singing ability, or as the whole package (energy on stage, ability to play other instruments, writing)?

Exactly the whole package, I was gonna include this in the survivor itself under "Criteria", it's gonna be:

- Singing voice.
- Stage presence and energy.
- Dual instruments (plays an instrument while singing).
- Importance to the band sound.
- Contribution and involvement in the band's writing process.

Based on this? I'd definitely have to raise my votes for Neal Morse and Peter Gabriel, as well as Roine Stolt and Jon Anderson. Those four definitely all have such great distinctive voices, all play instruments in their bands (for Neal, keys AND guitar!), all have great energy on stage with their bands, are all very important to how their bands sound, and contribute(d) a lot to their respective bands.

I would definitely have to push for Neal because the man works HARD on stage, between his time with Spock's Beard and Transatlantic, as well as touring with his own band for his solo albums, he covers a LOT of ground, musically and as well as on stage! He jumps from guitar to keys and back in a flash! Watch his Testimony Live DVD concert and you'll see how dedicated the man is to his music, and if you can feel the music, it's almost as if you're there with him sometimes. The man definitely knows how to work and draw in an audience in with his music. I don't think he'll EVER let down, especially if the recent Transatlantic tour was ANY indication.

And even if he isn't your cup of tea, you really do have to give him some props for what he does, and being able to play such LONG shows with his band and Transatlantic, playing multiple instruments, singing, and trying to remember all of that stuff every night at every show!

Also, gotta go with my first fave band's frontman, Geddy Lee. The man can sing, play bass, keyboards, bass pedals, triggers, and have time to breath in between. If he had an extra pair of arms and hands, you'd bet they'd be covering other parts on keys or a second guitar if he could! While he's not as energetic as he used to be, hopping around on one leg and such, he still emanates a large amount of energy every for ever concert!

-Marc.
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: Progmetty on August 02, 2010, 02:55:43 AM
And even if he isn't your cup of tea, you really do have to give him some props for what he does, and being able to play such LONG shows with his band and Transatlantic, playing multiple instruments, singing, and trying to remember all of that stuff every night at every show!

Indeed he isn't my cup of tea but I definitely give him much props and respect for what he does, he's included of course.
All the other names you mentioned are in too.
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: Genowyn on August 02, 2010, 03:48:46 AM
If we can submit people who don't play an instrument, Rody Walker is a beast onstage.
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: El JoNNo on August 02, 2010, 05:16:37 AM
You are probably not going to get to 50 with that dual instrument requirement, at least favourite frontmen.
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: wolfking on August 02, 2010, 05:19:53 AM
No mention of Daniel Gildenlow yet????

What about;

Dio
Halford
Geoff Tate
Russell Allen
Maynard
Ray Alder
Matt Barlow
Ripper Owens
Blackie Lawless
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: Dr. SeaWolf on August 02, 2010, 05:20:02 AM
Ozzy Osbourne

Hate on him all you want, but when he was in Sabbath in the 70s, he was a force of nature on stage.
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: zxlkho on August 02, 2010, 05:59:17 AM
If there's a poll for this, we already know who would win.
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: Dr. SeaWolf on August 02, 2010, 06:01:30 AM
It'll probably either be Wilson or Gildenlow, knowing how much those two are worshiped around here.
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: cthrubuoy on August 02, 2010, 06:05:38 AM
It'll probably either be Wilson or Gildenlow, knowing how much those two are worshiped around here.
Pff... Don't get me wrong, I love PT. But this miserable fool as best frontman ever?
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: zxlkho on August 02, 2010, 06:08:11 AM
::)
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: skydivingninja on August 02, 2010, 06:36:07 AM
I love PT, but SW is nowhere near the best frontman ever.

Metty: I don't agree with the rule of playing an instrument.  Peter Gabriel barely played an instrument in Genesis, Freddie didn't play an instrument most of the time, and neither did Diamond Dave or Dio.
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: KevShmev on August 02, 2010, 06:49:05 AM
I love PT, but SW is nowhere near the best frontman ever.

Agreed.  PT is my 2nd favorite band ever, and I am as big a fan of Wilson as almost anyone, but he wouldn't make my top 20 as far as front men go.

Metty: I don't agree with the rule of playing an instrument.  Peter Gabriel barely played an instrument in Genesis, Freddie didn't play an instrument most of the time, and neither did Diamond Dave or Dio.

Agreed (again).  Most of the best front men do not play an instrument (except maybe on occasion, like when Bono plays an acoustic on a few songs per show). 
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: bodiesinflight on August 02, 2010, 07:06:42 AM
Why is SW in this thread? He's a brilliant songwriter and I love PT but he's not that good a frontman. And no offence to JLB but he isn't either I don't think.

My top ones (inc. some that have already been mentioned): Dio, Bruce Dickinson, Mikael Akerfeldt, Hetfield, Joey Belladonna, Eddie Vedder, Chino Moreno, Ian Kenny, Peter Dolving.

I've only included those from bands I've seen live, not ones I've just heard are good.
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: Darkes7 on August 02, 2010, 07:18:12 AM
He is a great frontman. His live singing and playing is nearly perfect, he keeps a great contact with the audience (it's not so visible on the DVDs, but I've seen PT twice and both times it was like that), and in general has this kind of frontman charisma.

I think all my ideas have already been suggested so nothing new from me.
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: bodiesinflight on August 02, 2010, 07:34:27 AM
He just...doesn't. Yeah he performs well but I wouldn't call him a charismatic frontman at all, he's more of a "I'm only talking cause I kinda have to, I'd rather just be getting on with playing the songs" frontman, which is fine too. I also don't see why the eye contact thing is particularly important. Yeah he looked in my direction when I saw them live but pretty much every band I've ever seen has done that. Unless it's a really, really intimate venue then that doesn't make a difference really I don't think.

Great frontmen should be totally at ease talking to the crowd and should own the stage. PT own the stage but Wilson doesn't own it on his own.
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: robwebster on August 02, 2010, 07:34:51 AM
Devin Townsend.


Even though I'm sure most posts will just repeat a bunch since no one will read every post, I'll just add instead of repeating.
He needs repeats. He said "the most mentioned." If nobody repeated then it'd just be a big list.

James LaBrie, Matt Bellamy, Hansi Kursch, Jem Godfrey (!).
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: bodiesinflight on August 02, 2010, 07:36:58 AM

 Matt Bellamy

too much of a cocky bastard for me.
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: skydivingninja on August 02, 2010, 07:37:38 AM
James LaBrie

Really?

@bodiesinflight: Matt Bellamy is awesome.
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: KevShmev on August 02, 2010, 07:40:12 AM

 Matt Bellamy

too much of a cocky bastard for me.

Cockiness is what makes most front men great, even if it just an act onstage.
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: robwebster on August 02, 2010, 07:45:05 AM
James LaBrie

Really?
Yeah, 'fraid so! Love the guy. He's got a slightly bizarre stage presence, but it's the one that I've grown to compare all other frontmen to. For myself, I'm more or less obliged to put him up there. Horrendously biased, but hey! Open survey.
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: Jakartabassplayer on August 02, 2010, 07:59:08 AM
why hasn't anyone mentioned Layne Staley yet?
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: cthrubuoy on August 02, 2010, 08:02:14 AM
Layne Staley.
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: bodiesinflight on August 02, 2010, 08:10:33 AM

 Matt Bellamy

too much of a cocky bastard for me.

Cockiness is what makes most front men great, even if it just an act onstage.


Not when it gets to the extent that they cannot be bothered to play the piano parts to some of their own songs because they're too busy strutting around the stage and trying to make everyone forget that there's actually other people in the band as well  ;)
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: Darkes7 on August 02, 2010, 08:10:53 AM
He just...doesn't. Yeah he performs well but I wouldn't call him a charismatic frontman at all, he's more of a "I'm only talking cause I kinda have to, I'd rather just be getting on with playing the songs" frontman, which is fine too. I also don't see why the eye contact thing is particularly important. Yeah he looked in my direction when I saw them live but pretty much every band I've ever seen has done that. Unless it's a really, really intimate venue then that doesn't make a difference really I don't think.

Great frontmen should be totally at ease talking to the crowd and should own the stage. PT own the stage but Wilson doesn't own it on his own.
Actually, not really. He seemed rather loose both times (except that during The Incident he didn't say much but then a) it's understandable, b) he said between The Blind House and Great Expectations that they want to play it with as little interruption as possible), felt really natural and I just really felt he's enjoying it and genuinely likes the audience, which is a great thing. And I didn't mean eye contact, just contact with the audience - the feeling that it's not "the stage" and "the crowd", but both are connected. Many frontmen can't do that so well.

My own suggestion would also be Jonas Renkse for his own, very unique way of being a great frontman (mostly the opposite of what most frontmen do), but I doubt he has any chances here, so...
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: robwebster on August 02, 2010, 08:11:55 AM

 Matt Bellamy

too much of a cocky bastard for me.

Cockiness is what makes most front men great, even if it just an act onstage.


Not when it gets to the extent that they cannot be bothered to play the piano parts to some of their own songs because they're too busy strutting around the stage and trying to make everyone forget that there's actually other people in the band as well  ;)
I'm pretty sure that's not what he's doing.
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: El Barto on August 02, 2010, 08:16:11 AM
David Lee Roth
Ian Anderson
Ian Gillan
Pete Townshend

Between song stage banter is very important for a frontman.  These guys are masters of it.
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: skydivingninja on August 02, 2010, 08:19:00 AM

 Matt Bellamy

too much of a cocky bastard for me.

Cockiness is what makes most front men great, even if it just an act onstage.


Not when it gets to the extent that they cannot be bothered to play the piano parts to some of their own songs because they're too busy strutting around the stage and trying to make everyone forget that there's actually other people in the band as well  ;)

I honestly have no idea what you're talking about.
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: bodiesinflight on August 02, 2010, 08:22:18 AM
I'm pretty sure that's not what he's doing.

OK, I went OTT but it is ridiculous that he can't be bothered to play the intro to New Born anymore!
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: Progmetty on August 02, 2010, 08:43:08 AM
You are probably not going to get to 50 with that dual instrument requirement, at least favourite frontmen.

It's not a requirement dude, these criteria merely make someone favorable over another, it doesn't rule singers who don't play anything out, hell there are lot of singer/guitarists who suck major ass.
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: Progmetty on August 02, 2010, 08:49:16 AM
Guys let me tell you again; my criteria are not requirements, it's only what I think favors a frontman to another.
Almost half of the people I already have down on the list don't play an instrument.
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: ReaperKK on August 02, 2010, 09:13:52 AM
Steve Wilson is a horrible front man. I just saw PT live and while I think he sounds better live than in the studio he looks like a little whiny kid among a group of awesome musicians. This is just my opinion, his guitar playing was spot on and his vocals but his image was just aweful.
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: Darkes7 on August 02, 2010, 09:14:42 AM
My experiences of PT live were the exact opposite.
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: Jakartabassplayer on August 02, 2010, 09:20:11 AM
Steve Wilson is a horrible front man. I just saw PT live and while I think he sounds better live than in the studio he looks like a little whiny kid among a group of awesome musicians. This is just my opinion, his guitar playing was spot on and his vocals but his image was just aweful.

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Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: Zook on August 02, 2010, 09:21:29 AM
Russell Allen - he's corny as fuck but I love him. I hope to see Symphony X live some day.
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: Jakartabassplayer on August 02, 2010, 09:24:07 AM
Russell Allen - he's corny as fuck but I love him. I hope to see Symphony X live some day.
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: Quadrochosis on August 02, 2010, 09:50:15 AM
Under those new criteria you really can't include LaBrie at all considering the only thing he does is sing (and barely writes anymore)
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: The Letter M on August 02, 2010, 10:06:20 AM
Guys let me tell you again; my criteria are not requirements, it's only what I think favors a frontman to another.
Almost half of the people I already have down on the list don't play an instrument.
Under those new criteria you really can't include LaBrie at all considering the only thing he does is sing (and barely writes anymore)

-Marc.
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: Progmetty on August 02, 2010, 10:08:38 AM
This is the survey, let's keep discussions like how bad Steven Wilson is as a frontman to the actual survivor :lol
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: Quadrochosis on August 02, 2010, 10:09:35 AM
Guys let me tell you again; my criteria are not requirements, it's only what I think favors a frontman to another.
Almost half of the people I already have down on the list don't play an instrument.
Under those new criteria you really can't include LaBrie at all considering the only thing he does is sing (and barely writes anymore)

-Marc.

Yea but at least the others guys write at least some music and a lot of the lyrics, as well as have amazing stage personas. LaBrie really does none of those things, they call him in after the entire album is finished and he sings (and occasionally writes some lyrics here and there). His stage show is just lulz at best also. see: "FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE ROCK BAND 2 THIS IS ON THERE!"
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: Progmetty on August 02, 2010, 10:18:32 AM
Let's keep the discussion for later fellas, I need more names, around 10.
btw I remember a lot of good old friend here saying that about LaBrie.. good times.
They're all gone now.
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: Quadrochosis on August 02, 2010, 10:25:49 AM
Hey when people start to knock on LaBrie's voice I'm the first one there to defend him, as I think he has an amazing voice and he fits DT's music great. But I'm just saying that just because this is DTF doesn't mean that we have to pretend that he is a great frontman or anything, because honestly, he isn't.
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: 73109 on August 02, 2010, 10:28:04 AM
Billy Joel
Paul Rogers
Bob Marley
Phil Anselmo
Alice Cooper

There, now 5 more please?

 BTW, i would have 40 names. Then have 8 rounds of 5, then 4 rounds of 2, then a semis of 2 rounds with 2, then a final 2.
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: Progmetty on August 02, 2010, 10:31:18 AM
Hey when people start to knock on LaBrie's voice I'm the first one there to defend him, as I think he has an amazing voice and he fits DT's music great. But I'm just saying that just because is DTF doesn't mean that we have to pretend that he is a great frontman or anything, because honestly, he isn't.

hahaha you said it brother! *pulls Quadrochosis aside by his sleeve* dude I said that once on the DT discussion board and there's that lady that has her own LaBrie forums and she calmly says scary things to people who critisize LaBrie, I'm still haunted by the memories of that day..
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: Zook on August 02, 2010, 10:33:41 AM
Roy Khan
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: Quadrochosis on August 02, 2010, 10:35:31 AM
Roy Khan

That's so strange because I was just thinking that he might be a nice addition to this list. He doesn't play another instrument but he certainly has everything else.
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: 73109 on August 02, 2010, 10:36:37 AM
Metty, do you like my idea? I think it should be more like a tournement. And setting it up the way I did seems cool

Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: Darkes7 on August 02, 2010, 10:39:06 AM
Hey when people start to knock on LaBrie's voice I'm the first one there to defend him, as I think he has an amazing voice and he fits DT's music great. But I'm just saying that just because this is DTF doesn't mean that we have to pretend that he is a great frontman or anything, because honestly, he isn't.
Maybe not a GREAT frontman but very good without doubt. If it's going to be a list of 20 or something, he definitely should be there.
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: 73109 on August 02, 2010, 10:42:31 AM
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Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: Progmetty on August 02, 2010, 10:56:15 AM
Billy Joel
Paul Rogers
Bob Marley
Phil Anselmo
Alice Cooper

There, now 5 more please?

 BTW, i would have 40 names. Then have 8 rounds of 5, then 4 rounds of 2, then a semis of 2 rounds with 2, then a final 2.

I'm not picking tomatoes dude, I have more than 50 names already but there's a filtration process and I'm trying to exclude solo artists.
And regarding your idea; I'm cool with that, I think it would have been the way to go eventually, but I dunno if everyone else likes it.
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: Progmetty on August 02, 2010, 10:57:55 AM
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Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: 73109 on August 02, 2010, 10:58:37 AM
What about tomatoes? :lol

and thanks! :)
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: Nic35 on August 02, 2010, 11:25:31 AM
James Hetfield
Till Lindemann
Bruce Dickinson
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: Pirate on August 02, 2010, 12:27:29 PM
Casey Crescenzo
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: Progmetty on August 02, 2010, 01:58:45 PM
Do you guys think the frontmen from bands that play similar genres should be grouped together or keep it random?
Like should thrashers be in the same group? and proggers in a different one for example?
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: 73109 on August 02, 2010, 02:01:10 PM
Completely random.
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: Jakartabassplayer on August 02, 2010, 02:02:50 PM
Do you guys think the frontmen from bands that play similar genres should be grouped together or keep it random?
Like should thrashers be in the same group? and proggers in a different one for example?
yes
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: Progmetty on August 10, 2010, 05:52:43 AM
One more opinion on the above question please?
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: zxlkho on August 10, 2010, 05:53:36 AM
Yes.
Title: Re: Frontmen (Survey)
Post by: Progmetty on August 10, 2010, 08:49:26 AM
So here they are, the list is not 100% grouped by genres but almost, it's more grouped than random but there's a glimpse of randomness there.

James Hetfield (Metallica)
Dave Mustaine (Megadeth)
Bruce Dickinson (Iron Maiden)
Tom Araya (Slayer)
Phil Anselmo (Pantera)

James LaBrie (Dream Theater)
Steven Wilson (Porcupine Tree)
Mikael Åkerfeldt (Opeth)
Russell Allen (Symphony X)
Daniel Gildenlöw (Pain of Salvation)

David Gilmour (Pink Floyd)
Freddy Mercury (Queen)
Ronnie James Dio (Black Sabbath)
Robert Plant (Led Zepplin)
Ian Anderson (Jethro Tull)

Roger Waters (Pink Floyd)
Geddy Lee (Rush)
Jon Anderson (Yes)
Adrian Belew (King Crimson)
Peter Gabriel (Genesis)

Kurt Cobain (Nirvana)
Eddie Vedder (Pearl Jam)
Myles Kennedy (Alter Bridge)
Layne Staley (Alice in Chains)
Billie Joe Armstrong (Green Day)

Randy Blythe (Lamb of God)
Greg Puciato (The Dillinger Escape Plan)
Till Lindemann (Rammstein)
Devin Townsend (Strapping Young Lad)
Tommy Rogers (Between the Buried and Me)

Casey Crescenzo (The Dear Hunter)
Wayne Coyne (The Flaming Lips)
Claudio Sanchez (Coheed and Cambria)
Neal Morse (Transatlantic)
Roine Stolt (The Flower Kings)

Matthew Bellamy (Muse)
Maynard Keenan (Tool)
Steve Hogarth (Marillion)
Roy Khan (Kamelot)
Ozzy Osbourne (Black Sabbath)

Gonna update the first post here to keep this thread for results and such.
Title: Re: Frontmen of DTF
Post by: Ben_Jamin on August 10, 2010, 09:15:52 AM
You guys fail for not including Jorn Lande
Title: Re: Frontmen of DTF
Post by: 73109 on August 10, 2010, 09:26:17 AM
It is so fucked up that Het is going to lose to Dickinson.

But anyway,

Het
Akerfeldt
Ronnie James Dio
Eddie Vedder
Devin Townsend
Ozzy
Title: Re: Frontmen of DTF
Post by: Zook on August 10, 2010, 10:23:39 AM
Where's Matt Barlow and why the fuck is the green day guy in this?
Title: Re: Frontmen of DTF
Post by: Progmetty on August 10, 2010, 10:35:44 AM
It is so fucked up that Het is going to lose to Dickinson.

But anyway,

Het
Akerfeldt
Ronnie James Dio
Eddie Vedder
Devin Townsend
Ozzy

Dude we're not voting now at all! each of these is supposed to be a survivor.

Where's Matt Barlow and why the fuck is the green day guy in this?

The fuck he's doing in this is the fuck every guy in his group is doing in this, these are the grunge and the punk rock group if you will, we can still remove that group completely since I have 6 extra names anyway.
And nobody mentioned Matt Barlow in this thread -which is where I got most of the names here- and I wouldn't put him in on my own since I'm more interested in ant's anatomy than Iced Earth, I could put him in the group that would substitute the above mentioned group if everyone is up to dismissing the grunge and punk rock group.
Title: Re: Frontmen of DTF
Post by: zxlkho on August 10, 2010, 10:42:13 AM
These groups could use work, imo. Ill post what I think they should be when I'm on my pc.

The 5th, 7th, and 8th groups seem random.
Title: Re: Frontmen of DTF
Post by: Genowyn on August 10, 2010, 10:49:30 AM
No Rody Walker? Epic fail  :sadpanda:
Title: Re: Frontmen of DTF
Post by: Progmetty on August 10, 2010, 10:55:31 AM
These groups could use work, imo. Ill post what I think they should be when I'm on my pc.

The 5th, 7th, and 8th groups seem random.

So here they are, the list is not 100% grouped by genres but almost, it's more grouped than random but there's a glimpse of randomness there.

There will be randomness, there's no escaping these odds, I just tried to keep it to a minimum.
Title: Re: Frontmen of DTF
Post by: 73109 on August 10, 2010, 11:05:39 AM
Keep the grunge there. Eddie Vedder deserves to be up there. No doubt!
Title: Re: Frontmen of DTF
Post by: zxlkho on August 10, 2010, 11:54:05 AM
My proposal: Claudio to group 7, Myles to group 5, Devin Townsend to group 6.
Title: Re: Frontmen of DTF
Post by: Progmetty on August 10, 2010, 01:14:44 PM
Done
Title: Re: Frontmen of DTF
Post by: 73109 on August 10, 2010, 01:15:38 PM
When will this be up?
Title: Re: Frontmen of DTF
Post by: Progmetty on August 10, 2010, 01:22:58 PM
Now :)
Title: Re: Frontmen of DTF
Post by: 73109 on August 10, 2010, 02:35:13 PM
Um...I have to say this, and if any of the fogeys here see this, I am almost positive they will agree. I know you wanted to have singers of bands and not solo artists, but leaving Bruce Springsteen out of this thing is criminal. Just saying. And I think you should put him in instead of one of the Floyd dudes. You already have one. I know they share the spotlight but still.
Title: Re: Frontmen of DTF
Post by: Progmetty on August 10, 2010, 03:20:09 PM
I have something in mind for that dude, I promise you, you'll see.
And man you're gonna have to give us a name cause I'm tired of having to look back at your post while typing to get the number right hehe
Title: Re: Frontmen of DTF
Post by: 73109 on August 10, 2010, 03:21:26 PM
I have something in mind for that dude, I promise you, you'll see.

Awesome man! As long as he is given his credit. He is the greatest frontman ever.

And man you're gonna have to give us a name cause I'm tired of having to look back at your post while typing to get the number right hehe

And you lost me...???
Title: Re: Frontmen of DTF
Post by: Progmetty on August 10, 2010, 03:23:23 PM
What's your name?
Title: Re: Frontmen of DTF
Post by: 73109 on August 10, 2010, 03:24:58 PM
73109

Cole
Title: Re: Frontmen of DTF
Post by: Progmetty on August 10, 2010, 03:27:06 PM
That was my question Cole, I'm too lazy to memorize the number which you use as your username so I was just asking your name heh
Title: Re: Frontmen of DTF
Post by: 73109 on August 10, 2010, 03:28:23 PM
Cole, numbers, 73109, little miss failure, 7.

I take em all.
Title: Re: Frontmen of DTF
Post by: splent on August 10, 2010, 05:24:20 PM
Spell Led Zeppelin right in the OP, n00b...
Title: Re: Frontmen of DTF
Post by: splent on August 10, 2010, 05:28:29 PM
While I like the groups I don't think putting the winners against each other would be fair... I mean it MAY turn out to be good, it may not be. 

And I know this isn't for DTF Singer but why isn't Steve Walsh on there!??!
Title: Re: Frontmen of DTF
Post by: KevShmev on August 11, 2010, 08:45:46 AM
And I know this isn't for DTF Singer but why isn't Steve Walsh on there!??!

Good call.  Then again, he isn't nearly as active and crazy as he was back in the day, so many likely have not seen footage of him in his heyday. 

And Bono not making the cut here is an utter travesty.  He is top 10, maybe even top 5, all-time in this category, yet he doesn't make the final 40.  Yowza.
Title: Re: Frontmen of DTF
Post by: robwebster on August 11, 2010, 09:38:45 AM
Good call on Bono. Don't know how long he'd last, but definitely longer than, say, the Green Day fella. Who also wasn't suggested.

Tempted to suggest switching 'em round?
Title: Re: Frontmen of DTF
Post by: 73109 on August 11, 2010, 10:36:06 AM
Well, he is doing something special with Bruce. Maybe he is saving Bono for later aswell.
Title: Re: Frontmen of DTF
Post by: Mebert78 on August 11, 2010, 11:01:44 AM
Any room for Geoff Tate or Mike Patton?
Title: Re: Frontmen of DTF
Post by: robwebster on August 11, 2010, 11:22:40 AM
Any room for Geoff Tate or Mike Patton?
Christ! How did nobody think of Mike Patton!?

Glaring omission. Massive. I'm ashamed of the whole board, and most of all myself.

(Yes, I'm acutely aware that I'm now just haunting the thread, seconding good suggestions.)

David Bowie, come to think of it, is also a must-have. Depending on whether you're counting solo-artists, I can't remember. (God I'm lazy.)
Title: Re: Frontmen of DTF
Post by: Progmetty on August 11, 2010, 11:34:21 AM
Good call on Bono. Don't know how long he'd last, but definitely longer than, say, the Green Day fella. Who also wasn't suggested.

Tempted to suggest switching 'em round?

I think you're right about that, this is about DTF, I believe Billie Joe Armstrong is a far better song writer and live performer but he wouldn't last with the crowd here, everybody on board for switching Billie Joe with Bono?

Well, he is doing something special with Bruce. Maybe he is saving Bono for later aswell.

Well what I was gonna do is simply group solo artists into a different tournament, that would take Springsteen but it wouldn't take Bono.
I was thinking that would be the tournament that includes people like David Bowie, Michael Jackson, Billy Joel, Bob Marley, Alice Cooper and other solo artists who have a unique on stage persona enough to call them frontmen.
Which if you wanna start and manage yourself Cole I wouldn't mind at all, this whole thing has been exhausting to manage and I haven't even gone past the first survivor round hehe
Call it Frontmen of DTF (Solo Artists Edition) and roam this thread for more names cause a lot of peple mentioned solo artists.

Any room for Geoff Tate or Mike Patton?

Nobody mentioned them, but hey there's always next year and this is the first time we're doing this so it's bound not to be perfect.
Title: Re: Frontmen of DTF
Post by: 73109 on August 11, 2010, 11:51:20 AM
I will gladly do that.
Title: Re: Frontmen of DTF
Post by: TheVoxyn on August 12, 2010, 02:08:15 PM
I just want to say that Gildenlöw is the best them.
Title: Re: Frontmen of DTF
Post by: zxlkho on August 12, 2010, 02:42:16 PM
For me it's a toss up between Bruce Dickinson, Claudio Sanchez, and Mikael Åkerfeldt.