Just finished it... I probably wouldn't give it a second chance if it weren't James LaBrie. Actually, I probably wouldn't have got past the first verse if it weren't James LaBrie - not my style at all.
But, it is James LaBrie, and I know I like a lot of what he's about, so I'll keep at it. I definitely like the choruses, and I know a lot of people who would definitely be into something like this. To me, it sounds like a good example of what it is, if that makes any sense. And there's enough good in it for me to still want to buy the album.
Dubious but still hopeful, I suppose is what I'm feeling. I really like that this is something so thoroughly different, though. I've always respected experimentation and this is a really exciting new approach. Amazing to be hearing something so outlandish from someone so familiar.
In an earlier article about the solo album, it credited the drummer with the screams on the album, so I'm assuming it's him and not James.
And since it was asked, I guess the guitarist is the screamer.
And since it was asked, I guess the guitarist is the screamer.
Oh come on dude, at least read the above few posts.
And since it was asked, I guess the guitarist is the screamer.
Oh come on dude, at least read the above few posts.
I was judging by how the guitarist/keyboardist said "my vocals" and since all the singing parts sound like James, I think it would be logical to assume the guitarist is doing the screams.
Musically, I like it 10 times better than anything off of EOP.Seriously? That sounded like generic prog to the max for me. EOP was fantastic, this (track) has no feeling for me at all.
I'll take generic prog over Eop. Eop does nothing for me. It's half nu metal/half whatever else. I cannot connect to it at all. And I love James!Musically, I like it 10 times better than anything off of EOP.Seriously? That sounded like generic prog to the max for me. EOP was fantastic, this (track) has no feeling for me at all.
I was going to automatically buy this album when it came out, now I'm going to download it to see if I like it first.
James sounds great! But I don't get why a singer would make a solo album and then get someone else to sing for him for a big part of it.I think that's kind of a good thing, in some ways. Means it's not so much a vanity thing as he wanted to write some serious music.
Everyone who doesn't this song should listen to it with studio-quality headphones on like 3 or 4 more times. It's FANTASTIC.
It may come interesting who are not fan of scream or harsh vocal but this song has a great atmosphere with two different voice. Surely, there are many songs that James takes our head off.https://www.jameslabrie.com/forum/index.php?topic=688.msg9428#msg9428
James LaBrie forumers also seem to love it or else just seem hesistant/willing to give the rest of the album a try. Favorite post I saw there so far:QuoteIt may come interesting who are not fan of scream or harsh vocal but this song has a great atmosphere with two different voice. Surely, there are many songs that James takes our head off.https://www.jameslabrie.com/forum/index.php?topic=688.msg9428#msg9428
James LaBrie forumers also seem to love it or else just seem hesistant/willing to give the rest of the album a try. Favorite post I saw there so far:QuoteIt may come interesting who are not fan of scream or harsh vocal but this song has a great atmosphere with two different voice. Surely, there are many songs that James takes our head off.https://www.jameslabrie.com/forum/index.php?topic=688.msg9428#msg9428
Then why does the article cite the "guitarist/keyboardist" talking about his vocals?And since it was asked, I guess the guitarist is the screamer.
Oh come on dude, at least read the above few posts.
I was judging by how the guitarist/keyboardist said "my vocals" and since all the singing parts sound like James, I think it would be logical to assume the guitarist is doing the screams.
The drummer is doing the screaming. They have stated it.
I've never seen a bigger bunch of women in a prog metal forum before."Come on, guys. We've all had a laugh, but let's get serious. Stop disliking this. Start liking it."
'oh no the screams'
'i hate the screams'
'it's just ruined it all!'
Can't you guys switch off for a few minutes and appreciate something different? Why on earth would you want another DT-sounding album from the frontman of the band? It wouldn't be much of a solo album if James did exactly what he did on DT's 9 previous albums, would it? It sounds good.
I like growls in metal. I also don't like growls in metal. I get the best of both. Try it sometime.
I've never seen a bigger bunch of women in a prog metal forum before.Oh, shut up.
'oh no the screams'
'i hate the screams'
'it's just ruined it all!'
Can't you guys switch off for a few minutes and appreciate something different? Why on earth would you want another DT-sounding album from the frontman of the band? It wouldn't be much of a solo album if James did exactly what he did on DT's 9 previous albums, would it? It sounds good.
I like growls in metal. I also don't like growls in metal. I get the best of both. Try it sometime.
I've never seen a bigger bunch of women in a prog metal forum before."Come on, guys. We've all had a laugh, but let's get serious. Stop disliking this. Start liking it."
'oh no the screams'
'i hate the screams'
'it's just ruined it all!'
Can't you guys switch off for a few minutes and appreciate something different? Why on earth would you want another DT-sounding album from the frontman of the band? It wouldn't be much of a solo album if James did exactly what he did on DT's 9 previous albums, would it? It sounds good.
I like growls in metal. I also don't like growls in metal. I get the best of both. Try it sometime.
With respect, if it were that simple I'd like everything. There'd be no such thing as music tastes, everyone would hear a song and IMMEDIATELY begin dancing. The world would be like Saturday Night Fever on eternal loop. Nobody'd be able to get anything done.
I'd love to love everything. Nobody dislikes something 'cause they're thinking "I really want to dislike this." I don't think being sneery's gonna help anything. Just gonna make you a little less popular.
For what it's worth, I'm giving it a bit of extra time. I'd like to like JLB so I'm gonna try and find something to love about it, and properly study it. I'm still gonna get the album, and I like that he's experimenting. I'm more or less ambivalent to the whole thing. Doesn't mean I have to go "oh goody it's my least favourite type of vocals, this is my favourite song in the universe" straight off the bat.
hp;y shit that is amazing, though at first I thought webster had trolled me while i'm int his state - i thought i was listening to in falmes or soilwork or something. I can't wait for the release, keeping me going till then ew dreak m theater album right@?
I dunno why, the verses are better than the past few In Flames and Soilwork albums :loser:Come Clarity and The Panic Broadcast just called and said they were incredibly offended, and like to share a word with you.
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Totally digging the song. I like the screams, very nice departure from the norm for JLB if you ask me (I think they're done tastefully enough that they don't completely overtake the song, but do add a nice effect). Also was a big fan of the middle section, the bass lick followed by the solo section was very well done IMO. Solid song, I'm excited for this album!
How can a song be reasonable?reasonably good
I gave it a second listen, and I've decided it's not a terrible song. It's definitely more original than any of the heavy stuff on EoP. I still don't think it's that great, though. I can usually disregard bad lyrics if they're in metal songs, but the lyrics that are growled are pretty awkward for the mood that is set.
I gave it a second listen, and I've decided it's not a terrible song. It's definitely more original than any of the heavy stuff on EoP. I still don't think it's that great, though. I can usually disregard bad lyrics if they're in metal songs, but the lyrics that are growled are pretty awkward for the mood that is set.
What don't you like about it? I don't notice anything "bad" per se about the growls. They're definitely not the best growls I've ever heard, but nor are they Portnoy-esque "I don't know how to growl but I'm gonna give it a try" either. They just seem kinda... average... to me. And James and the solo section both kick ass, so it's fine.
I think it's quite refreshing when solo artists are out to write music for music's sake, rather than to show off a bit and sing all over it. Shows that he's written this album cause he wants to write an album, not write a solo work.
Can't you guys switch off for a few minutes and appreciate something different? Why on earth would you want another DT-sounding album from the frontman of the band? It wouldn't be much of a solo album if James did exactly what he did on DT's 9 previous albums, would it? It sounds good.
Good post Nick. And it SHOULD be easy to understand, since most people if not all people who like growls had to "ease" into it over time.
I'm glad you like the song, though. It took me about a second to get used to, but once I did I knew it was amazing. I really love what's going on instrumentally beneath those growls, too.
Can't you guys switch off for a few minutes and appreciate something different? Why on earth would you want another DT-sounding album from the frontman of the band?Nobody asks for another Dream Theater sounding album. He could have done an oldschool progressive rock album, and I'd be fine with it. He could have done a pop album, and I'd be fine with it. He could have done an acoustic folk rock album, or a thrash metal sounding record, and I'd still enjoy it. But no - he had to go with a guy whose screams are cringe-worthy. An open mind and repeated listening wouldn't change the fact that the guy annoys me a lot.
Wtf wolfking, there's no need for that. Calm down please!
Can't you guys switch off for a few minutes and appreciate something different? Why on earth would you want another DT-sounding album from the frontman of the band?Nobody asks for another Dream Theater sounding album. He could have done an oldschool progressive rock album, and I'd be fine with it. He could have done a pop album, and I'd be fine with it. He could have done an acoustic folk rock album, or a thrash metal sounding record, and I'd still enjoy it. But no - he had to go with a guy whose screams are cringe-worthy. An open mind and repeated listening wouldn't change the fact that the guy annoys me a lot.
I truly hope there won't be plenty of those screaming vocals on the record...
I've never seen a bigger bunch of women in a prog metal forum before.
'oh no the screams'
'i hate the screams'
'it's just ruined it all!'
Can't you guys switch off for a few minutes and appreciate something different? Why on earth would you want another DT-sounding album from the frontman of the band? It wouldn't be much of a solo album if James did exactly what he did on DT's 9 previous albums, would it? It sounds good.
I like growls in metal. I also don't like growls in metal. I get the best of both. Try it sometime.
Great, now I've been put down by a growl lover. Growls do nothing for me. I understand that talent behind growling because 2 seconds of me growling and I'm coughing for 3 minutes but I want to hear melody in my vocals. In small spurts it's ok.
Great, now I've been put down by a growl lover. Growls do nothing for me. I understand that talent behind growling because 2 seconds of me growling and I'm coughing for 3 minutes but I want to hear melody in my vocals. In small spurts it's ok.
Womang! :lol
I can't until this metalcore shit goes out of style.
Crucify is to The Root of All Evil as One More Time is to A Nightmare to Remember.
Some listeners may be surprised by the underlying growls that are part of some of the songs.
Cover art!:rollin
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https://www.myspace.com/officialjameslabrie
Looks like a US ensemble drama. V. cool though.
Cover art!
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A lot of you guys are fucking girls.
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I can't until this metalcore shit goes out of style.
Excuse me. I forgot 'wait'. I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL THAT METALCORE SHIT GOES OUT OF STYLE. The verses are trying to be metalcore and sound terrible. But of course, I'm not manly for not liking that shit. That kind of statement isn't ignorant or idiotic at all though...
Screams =/= Growls
Cover art!
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ololololCover art!
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Anyone who says this is (and then criticizes it for being) metalcore has no idea what they're talking about.wtf?
Anyone who says this is (and then criticizes it for being) metalcore has no idea what they're talking about.wtf?
James LaBrie obviously isn't a metalcore artist. But unless you like needlessly specific genre parameters, there's no reason at all to get in a fuss over this vocal part being described as such.
Anyone who says this is (and then criticizes it for being) metalcore has no idea what they're talking about.wtf?
James LaBrie obviously isn't a metalcore artist. But unless you like needlessly specific genre parameters, there's no reason at all to get in a fuss over this song being described as such.
I can't until this metalcore shit goes out of style.
I thought it was pretty obvious that this was not metalcore. It has no hardcore influence or style, contains proggy keyboards, sounds more like melodeath then anything.
I really like it, awesome chorus and cool intro. Needs more JLB though.
Anyone who says this is (and then criticizes it for being) metalcore has no idea what they're talking about.wtf?
James LaBrie obviously isn't a metalcore artist. But unless you like needlessly specific genre parameters, there's no reason at all to get in a fuss over this song being described as such.
It's not that it's being described as it, it's that it's being criticized/dismissed as it. See:I can't until this metalcore shit goes out of style.
It's irritating as hell to have a genre that has a fair amount of artists I enjoy being blamed for a poor song* that has nothing to do with the genre. It's the equivalent of someone hearing a Bloodbath song and going "god I hate when bands try to do the 'progressive metal' thing".
*I quite enjoy the song actually, I wasn't talking about my own opinion
"James LaBrie's new solo album Static Impluse, special guest vocalist James LaBrie".lol
That would be a problem, because Mullmuzzler is a fucking stupid name.whoa.
That would be a problem, because Mullmuzzler is a fucking stupid name.
Perhaps you're being a bit too drastic and melodramatic Hef?No, I just think it's stupid, and the name probably kept some people away from it.
Perhaps you're being a bit too drastic and melodramatic Hef?No, I just think it's stupid, and the name probably kept some people away from it.
*shrugs*I think it would be better if it was called James LaBrie and the Mullmuzzlers. :lol
It's irrelevant now, because thank God he has changed it now.
WTF Do you guys think that's a great name? Or even a passable name? It's awful.
This thread has inspired me to check out Elements of Persuasion. Holy crap, this is really good!I actually bought that album at a store, it's that worthy.
I wouldn't mind it if Labrie uses growl in DT record. As long as it fits.
I wouldn't mind it if Labrie uses growl in DT record. As long as it fits.
I wouldn't mind it if Labrie uses growl in DT record. As long as it fits.
I really hope they don't write music that necessarily calls for more growls than not.
I haven't seen the writing credits for EoP, but why is it obvious that he only writes half the lyrics and none of the music?
Listening again. My God Labrie, I salute you. One of the best songs of 2010.
I have seen him play the tambourines!I haven't seen the writing credits for EoP, but why is it obvious that he only writes half the lyrics and none of the music?
Because he's not given lyric credits on half the songs on EoP and he can't play an instrument ???
I haven't seen the writing credits for EoP, but why is it obvious that he only writes half the lyrics and none of the music?
Because he's not given lyric credits on half the songs on EoP and he can't play an instrument ???
I haven't seen the writing credits for EoP, but why is it obvious that he only writes half the lyrics and none of the music?
Because he's not given lyric credits on half the songs on EoP and he can't play an instrument ???
I haven't seen the writing credits for EoP, but why is it obvious that he only writes half the lyrics and none of the music?
Because he's not given lyric credits on half the songs on EoP and he can't play an instrument ???
They should call it "James LaBrie and Friends"James LaBrie, our generation's Ringo Starr.
I haven't seen the writing credits for EoP, but why is it obvious that he only writes half the lyrics and none of the music?
Because he's not given lyric credits on half the songs on EoP and he can't play an instrument ???
Purely anecdotal, but I don't play the guitar, and I've written guitar parts before. You don't have to play an instrument to write a part for it.QuoteThey should call it "James LaBrie and Friends"James LaBrie, our generation's Ringo Starr.
I don't like the song at all. :tick2:
Tracklist:
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01. One More Time
02. Jekyll Or Hyde
03. Mislead
04. Euphoric
05. Over The Edge
06. I Need You
07. Who You Think I Am
08. I Tried
09. Just Watch Me
10. This Is War
11. Superstar
12. Coming Home
I just don't get how this is at all a "different sound" though.There was no screaming on his other albums. I mean new for his music. Now, in this case, new didn't mean better, but I'd rather an artist try new things and have a misstep here and there than become stagnant.
I just don't get how this is at all a "different sound" though.There was no screaming on his other albums. I mean new for his music. Now, in this case, new didn't mean better, but I'd rather an artist try new things and have a misstep here and there than become stagnant.
I haven't seen the writing credits for EoP, but why is it obvious that he only writes half the lyrics and none of the music?
Because he's not given lyric credits on half the songs on EoP and he can't play an instrument ???
1. Where did you get the impression he can't play an instrument?
2. Even if he can't, how does that somehow equate to not being able to write music?
I know what you were saying, but I just don't get how having a guitarist (or drummer or whoever is doing it) growl is a risk. I mean, growls are really popular in metal music, and even Dream Theater had a few ones. Bad ones, but ones nonetheless. It seems more like a compromise, as really this should be LABRIE'S album, not some other blokes...As someone said, while there are certainly popular bands out there doing it, it's a bit of a risk among the types of people most likely to pick up a JLB album. Also, I don't see it as a risk as much as just trying something he hasn't had in his music before.
1. I've never seen any evidence to suggest the contrary, aside from him playing the keyboard during the intro the Octavarium-- which, by the way, seemed to have its keys taped and color coordinated in a way that would be unnecessary for someone with even the most basic musical knowledge.Surely that should be "basic keyboard knowledge"? Music =/= keyboard. And besides, just because he doesn't play one well enough to record, doesn't mean he doesn't play anything at all.
2. I don't know. Maybe James LaBrie is one of those geniuses who can write music out without being able to play an instrument. I think it's much more likely that he's just very good at "thinking" vocal parts in his head when he hears the material he's supposed to be singing over.You don't need to be a genius, you just need to know some music theory, I know plenty of people who know the theory but don't play an instrument very proficiently, particularly with singers. Understanding music makes singing much easier, especially with music as complex as DT's.
Not nuts about the verses, but James sounds great. Musically, I like it 10 times better than anything off of EOP.
1. I've never seen any evidence to suggest the contrary, aside from him playing the keyboard during the intro the Octavarium-- which, by the way, seemed to have its keys taped and color coordinated in a way that would be unnecessary for someone with even the most basic musical knowledge.Surely that should be "basic keyboard knowledge"? Music =/= keyboard. And besides, just because he doesn't play one well enough to record, doesn't mean he doesn't play anything at all.Quote2. I don't know. Maybe James LaBrie is one of those geniuses who can write music out without being able to play an instrument. I think it's much more likely that he's just very good at "thinking" vocal parts in his head when he hears the material he's supposed to be singing over.You don't need to be a genius, you just need to know some music theory, I know plenty of people who know the theory but don't play an instrument very proficiently, particularly with singers. Understanding music makes singing much easier, especially with music as complex as DT's.
I think I've heard or read somewhere that JLB play the drums as well.
Well, now that my inital statement, "I mean, it's pretty damn obvious that James likely doesn't write any of the music, and only writes half the lyrics" has been stretched into an abstract argument regarding how good someone can be at "writing" music without knowledge of an instrument, I'm going to duck out and say "you guys win." ;DWell sure, if ducking out means "continuing over the next few paragraphs."
"write"Patronising to put it in inverted commas, he's a talented musician with a 25 year plus career.
I'm almost positive that James doesn't write any music aside from his vocal partsYou can't know that.
if he DOES write music, it's probably nothing more than suggesting his band play a certain way. Like, "hey, guys, what if you play something gloomy and heavy here, with a clean intro?"You can't know that. That's conjecture. Your idea. You've read a few credits and noticed that he doesn't write for DT and extrapolated that into "He does not know how to write music and he just suggests genres then takes credit for it and THIS IS THE TRUTH."
Sarcasm aside, I don't understand why that's so hard to cope with.Because, aside from it being a complete ass pull (and "cope with" again makes it sound like you think you're stating facts), it's really quite rude. Even if you're right, you don't know it, but you're just coming up with made-up statements and going "oh they're obvious, you should learn to cope with the truth". Plus, accusing him of taking credit for music he's not writing is a pretty serious allegation. If he wasn't writing it, they wouldn't be putting it in the press release.
I'll meet you Sunday morning for brunch with mimosa's at The Blue Moon. I'll be wearing the policeman's hat. :police:I don't like the song at all. :tick2:
Me neither. Obviously, that means we're gay.
So... you busy this weekend?
I think I've heard or read somewhere that JLB play the drums as well.
Most singers have great timing and rhythm so the drums are a somewhat natural fit. Being a vocalist myself, I can't play guitar, but I can rock out on the drums and have been know to take a song live every once in awhile.I think I've heard or read somewhere that JLB play the drums as well.
He does. I have seen DT switch it up at concerts where they trade instruments and play a tune.
I don't remember them doing it when JLB got on drums. When Derek was in the band, they would switch to Derek on guitar, MP on bass, JM on keys, and JP on drums. JLB kept singing.I think I've heard or read somewhere that JLB play the drums as well.
He does. I have seen DT switch it up at concerts where they trade instruments and play a tune.
You're not talking about Portnoy's vocals in ANTR are you? Those aren't growls at all.At one point, they released a version of that section where he was doing full on growls that didn't make it into the final song. The consensus seemed to be that people were glad they hadn't gone with that.
You're not talking about Portnoy's vocals in ANTR are you? Those aren't growls at all.At one point, they released a version of that section where he was doing full on growls that didn't make it into the final song. The consensus seemed to be that people were glad they hadn't gone with that.
No, just no.You're not talking about Portnoy's vocals in ANTR are you? Those aren't growls at all.At one point, they released a version of that section where he was doing full on growls that didn't make it into the final song. The consensus seemed to be that people were glad they hadn't gone with that.
They would have sounded a lot better than the yelling crap we got.
I don't remember them doing it when JLB got on drums. When Derek was in the band, they would switch to Derek on guitar, MP on bass, JM on keys, and JP on drums. JLB kept singing.
He does what he does so well though, that I don't care if is incapable of wiping his own ass, he's still freaking awesome.
That said, for all we know, you might be right! You might be the prophet Cassandra. But I don't think the substance of what you're saying is necessarily fair.
Just because they released that section (which I've heard) doesn't mean there's growls in DT's music.Well it's a good thing I never made that claim then.
Okay, first off an "ass pull" means it's been pulled out of your ass. Doesn't mean you are one, just that you have one. So do I. An "ass pull" is a statement that has come from nowhere discernable. I have not called you a complete ass.That said, for all we know, you might be right! You might be the prophet Cassandra. But I don't think the substance of what you're saying is necessarily fair.
I've never, ever seen ANYTHING-- studio footage, interviews, etc.-- that suggests James somehow has a hand in writing the music aside from his vocal parts for either Dream Theater or his side projects, even when he's credited as such. When you're ready to show me otherwise (instead of just ranting at my posts and calling me "rude," a hypocrite, and a "complete ass") I'll be ready to pick up the discussion again!
Seriously, though. I'm not trying to piss you or anyone off with my original comment. I'm more than open to the possibility that James does have a hand in writing music. The problem is, I've just never really seen it happen, or even seen reference to it happening. The only thing I've read about James' claims to music-writing were Portnoy's rebuttals in Lifting Shadows.Great! That's fine! Brilliant bit of Grade A post, that. That's facts, and a perfectly valid reason to express surprise when he is revealed to have written a bit of music.
I think most of his reasoning is that JLB has never once shown to play a single instrument and that he was otherwise occupied while this CD was mostly written.
I still don't get the whole plays an instrument = writes music link. I've got plenty of friends who just play one or two orchestral instruments at an amateur standards, but still know more than than enough music theory to write a rock song. The only thing is guitar riffs, which are very hard to write for non-guitarists, so I imagine those are Guillory's main contribution.
The man has had a career in music for decades at this point, is it really difficult to believe that he's capable of doing some writing?
Chord progressions? Melodies? There's quite a lot in music other than guitar riffs. ???I still don't get the whole plays an instrument = writes music link. I've got plenty of friends who just play one or two orchestral instruments at an amateur standards, but still know more than than enough music theory to write a rock song. The only thing is guitar riffs, which are very hard to write for non-guitarists, so I imagine those are Guillory's main contribution.
Well, if he's not writing the guitar parts, then what's he writing?
Which, as I've said, I can see James doing. I've never had a problem with imagining him writing his own vocal melodies, or suggesting the band play a certain way, like, "Hey, guys, why don't you play a heavy, minor chord kind of progression and I'll sing something like this."Or maybe he actually writes the chord progressions himself, and gets guillory to orchestrate something for the guitar to fit in with it.
I still don't get the whole plays an instrument = writes music link. I've got plenty of friends who just play one or two orchestral instruments at an amateur standards, but still know more than than enough music theory to write a rock song. The only thing is guitar riffs, which are very hard to write for non-guitarists, so I imagine those are Guillory's main contribution.
And I don't think JLB knows too much theory, what with the color-coded keyboard keys he plays.Makes no sense. ??? Music theory =/= playing the keyboard.
The only thing OBVIOUS about this new album is that Mike Portnoy and JR wrote the whole thing and forced Matt and James to learn and play it at gun point.Well, obviously.
wow, faggots ittWtf, I didn't even notice this before, just saw the reports now. Dude, not cool, please read the forum rules. Consider this your warning.
A career that's never required him to do any more than write his own vocal parts, if that. Again, not minimalizing what James does. Just sayin'.Except that you are.
wow, faggots itt
Awful. I like the subject matter of the song and I find it interesting, but, in my opinion, the screaming just plain sucks. I don't understand why all these bands have to suddenly start doing that "metalcore" or "screamgore-core-blahblah" crap. When will it stop!
Definitely miss Mangini. I thought our drumming styles were similar.
It won't. Nearly every contemporary band that could have held out has given up trying. Growls and screams will be part of metal forever now. They are here to stay.
Have Queensryche and Fates Warning done the whole screaming thing?
Good point.Have Queensryche and Fates Warning done the whole screaming thing?
who?
It won't. Nearly every contemporary band that could have held out has given up trying. Growls and screams will be part of metal forever now. They are here to stay.
I don't know about that. Have Queensryche and Fates Warning done the whole screaming thing? I haven't heard every single song of either band from the past ten years, but I have heard a lot of their newer stuff and I haven't heard any screaming....
Good point.Have Queensryche and Fates Warning done the whole screaming thing?
who?
I hope I'm not the only one who actually thought the growls were well done.He's not a particularly great harsh vocalist, but I thought the way they were integrated is good.
No screaming from either of those bands. But both bands have neither really done anything challenging or overly exciting either in the last ten years. Fates had X which was decent but nothing innovative, last good thing they did was Disconnected in 2000.
Queensryche haven't done anything really worthwhile to the prog scene since Promised Land. I really enjoy Tribe, but it's nothing flash in the scheme of rock and prog.
Queensryche are irrelevant at this point. I'd love to find a reasonably popular metal band that was formed in the last decade that doesn't use any growls or screams at all.
I actually prefer Tribe AND Mindcrime II over Systematic Chaos
"There are riffs that will blow your head off and melodies both musically and vocally that are hypnotic. Get in the driver's seat and let the ears bleed." - LaBriethe tl:dr of this: BUY OUR ALBUM. IT WILL FUCK YOUR SHIT AND MAKE YOU FEEL PAIN.
Ok so Rich Wilson posted on the VoicesUK forum that he's heard the album and that the opening track is the only one with any growls. In case any of the growl-haters were worried! :)
Didn't Labrie say there was a few songs or something to that effect???I thought I read something like that, although I can't remember where. I guess RW might have just meant the only song with any significant use of them, rather than any at all.
If this is the only song with harsh vocals, I for one will be disapointed.
If this is the only song with harsh vocals, I for one will be disapointed.
That doesn't diminish the quality of what the music could be like, growls or no growls.
If this is the only song with harsh vocals, I for one will be disapointed.
That doesn't diminish the quality of what the music could be like, growls or no growls.
Agree. But I was getting pumped for growls, so if they are only in that song, I am still disappointed in that fact.
Hm, I might get it if that's the case.You're judging the sound quality from an online stream? ???
I'm listening to One More Time right now. Actually, the screaming doesn't throw me off as much as the silly, unnecessary bass fills at the beginning and the start of the instrumental section. No groove, no flowing together with the song, and the sound is pretty bad, there's almost no bottom end to it.
If this is the only song with harsh vocals, I for one will be disapointed.
That doesn't diminish the quality of what the music could be like, growls or no growls.
Agree. But I was getting pumped for growls, so if they are only in that song, I am still disappointed in that fact.
If this is the only song with harsh vocals, I for one will be disapointed.
That doesn't diminish the quality of what the music could be like, growls or no growls.
Agree. But I was getting pumped for growls, so if they are only in that song, I am still disappointed in that fact.
Why do you need to get pumped for growls on a James LaBrie release when you can listen to them from thousands of other bands and releases?
Ok so Rich Wilson posted on the VoicesUK forum that he's heard the album and that the opening track is the only one with any growls. In case any of the growl-haters were worried! :)Thank God!
If this is the only song with harsh vocals, I for one will be disapointed.
That doesn't diminish the quality of what the music could be like, growls or no growls.
Agree. But I was getting pumped for growls, so if they are only in that song, I am still disappointed in that fact.
Why do you need to get pumped for growls on a James LaBrie release when you can listen to them from thousands of other bands and releases?
I don't get how it's anything "new and fresh" even for Labrie. If he were growling, maybe...
Why are people saying there are growls in the song?
Why are people saying there are growls in the song?
And I find it ironic that JLB has been able to incorporate RORORORO vocals
Why does everyone keep pretending that there's no growls in Dream Theater or JLB's solo songs?
Bosk speaks the undeniable truth.Why does everyone keep pretending that there's no growls in Dream Theater or JLB's solo songs?
Because there aren't any. Growls and screams are not the same style at all.
Bosk speaks the undeniable truth.Why does everyone keep pretending that there's no growls in Dream Theater or JLB's solo songs?
Because there aren't any. Growls and screams are not the same style at all.
Not quite.Bosk speaks the undeniable truth.Why does everyone keep pretending that there's no growls in Dream Theater or JLB's solo songs?
Because there aren't any. Growls and screams are not the same style at all.
Indeed. For example:
Screams - What JLB does in the background of a section of "In The Name Of God"
Growls - What MP does on his vocal part in "A Nightmare To Remember"
-Marc.
Why does everyone keep pretending that there's no growls in Dream Theater or JLB's solo songs?
Call it whatever you want: RORORO, Growls, Screams, Grunts, Rasps, Shouts, etc.
The point is that they're a harsh type of vocals that different than what a lot of us are used to hearing in Dream Theater, and thus bad.
;)
I think it's unfair to say that mike doesn't growl in ANtR. If you listen closely, that last "survived!" definitely stretches into a growl.
Not quite.Bosk speaks the undeniable truth.Why does everyone keep pretending that there's no growls in Dream Theater or JLB's solo songs?
Because there aren't any. Growls and screams are not the same style at all.
Indeed. For example:
Screams - What JLB does in the background of a section of "In The Name Of God"
Growls - What MP does on his vocal part in "A Nightmare To Remember"
-Marc.
Screams - What this guy is doing on the new JLB album.
Growls - What Akerfeldt does.
I think it's unfair to say that mike doesn't growl in ANtR. If you listen closely, that last "survived!" definitely stretches into a growl.
No.
Well, wait, not the word "survived" itself but the "hu!" that comes after. That definitely stretches into a growl.
Well, wait, not the word "survived" itself but the "hu!" that comes after. That definitely stretches into a growl.
No.
"Stretches into dumb" and "stretches into a growl" are not the same.
Well, wait, not the word "survived" itself but the "hu!" that comes after. That definitely stretches into a growl.
No.
For those of you who can read french, go and have a look on Yourmajesty.net, the French DT site and read the opinion on the whole album as wriiten by Valhall. It hurts. I know it all comes down to a matter of taste, but still...Yeah he's pretty harsh to JLB...
Link : https://forum.yourmajesty.net/viewtopic.php?t=6180&start=90
(https://forum.yourmajesty.net/viewtopic.php?t=6180&start=90)
B.Lee
For those of you who can read french, go and have a look on Yourmajesty.net, the French DT site and read the opinion on the whole album as wriiten by Valhall. It hurts. I know it all comes down to a matter of taste, but still...The main thing I got from that is realizing how badly my ability to read/speak French has deteriorated.
Link : https://forum.yourmajesty.net/viewtopic.php?t=6180&start=90
(https://forum.yourmajesty.net/viewtopic.php?t=6180&start=90)
B.Lee
Man, I'm not liking the sound of this new album so far.
Man, I'm not liking the sound of this new album so far.
This. I like this track more than the first, but that isn't saying much considering bacon-wrapped shit is still shit.
Man, I'm not liking the sound of this new album so far.
This. I like this track more than the first, but that isn't saying much considering bacon-wrapped shit is still shit.
This; and melodic death metal (which is way too close to deathcore) is the crappiest sub-genre of death metal so they're really not doing themselves any favors by promoting their sound that way (IMO). And why does everyone name-drop friggin' Akerfeldt when attempting to describe growling? There were great growlers long before he came around but I guess their music was not watered-down and commercial enough like Opeth's to be remembered?
WTF ^
:lol Well put.WTF ^
No he's right. Any form of death metal that is actually well thought, and doesn't consist solely of fast drumming, yelling and generic dark riffs is not real death metal. And having a recording that doesn't sound like it was the bands first run through at their friends garage recorded with two mics, then jesus christ.
This; and melodic death metal (which is way too close to deathcore) is the crappiest sub-genre of death metal so they're really not doing themselves any favors by promoting their sound that way (IMO). And why does everyone name-drop friggin' Akerfeldt when attempting to describe growling? There were great growlers long before he came around but I guess their music was not watered-down and commercial enough like Opeth's to be remembered????
Simply put, Akerfeldt is the most well known around these parts. Most people here don't know who people like Chris Barnes, David Vincent, George Fisher, Glen Benton, or Chuck Schuldiner are. Obviously there are exceptions, but since Opeth is one of the more popular bands here, Akerfeldt is your go-to-guy for death growls.Man, I'm not liking the sound of this new album so far.
This. I like this track more than the first, but that isn't saying much considering bacon-wrapped shit is still shit.
This; and melodic death metal (which is way too close to deathcore) is the crappiest sub-genre of death metal so they're really not doing themselves any favors by promoting their sound that way (IMO). And why does everyone name-drop friggin' Akerfeldt when attempting to describe growling? There were great growlers long before he came around but I guess their music was not watered-down and commercial enough like Opeth's to be remembered?
... people like Chris Barnes, David Vincent, George "BULLNECK" Fisher, Glen.....fix'd
Ok. To sum up, for those of you who cannot read French : (note this is NOT my opinion)
Keyboard sounds are horrible.
Screaming passages horrible too.
James is not bad but has his "nasal" voice ; melodies sometimes really bad
Sounds like the bad DT of late (sound and compositions)
Technically good
Some tracks are good but all in all too many bad things.
Conclusion : musically uninspired, artistically poor (lyrics are meh). The reviewer doesn't want to listen to it again.
Ouch!!!
-The synth sounds are terrible, I do not like them at all!
-As for the growling parts- when you do not know how [to growl properly] and the music does not lend itself to growling, it fails… especially because it does not mesh with James' voice very well.
-This last thing isn't as big as an issue, but [James] has a tendency to make that unbearably nasal voice, and the lines of the song sometimes sound calamitous (the refrain of “I Need You”, help!)…
-It sounds a lot like the bad newer DT stuff on many occasions, both in sounds and in compounds, whereas EOP had surprised many people, ditto for Mullmuzzler etc.
Regardless, the playing is very technical (drum parts are violent here and there, some very good solos), but without the name of James on the cover it would have been a rotten album among many others, and I am convinced I would have never listened to it.
There are a few good songs. “Over The Edge” is for me a saving grace, others like “Superstar” or “Euphoric” are pretty good too, but there is always an icky synth sound or a passage sung in nu-metal that really any schmuck just as good at doing skateboard tricks as singing emo music could have done. It makes me want to press skip or even stop completely.
… Musically it’s at best not inspired, artistically it’s poor. I probably will not return. Hopefully they will not assign me an article on Music Waves, otherwise the poor James will be sacked.
Ok. To sum up, for those of you who cannot read French : (note this is NOT my opinion)
Keyboard sounds are horrible.
Screaming passages horrible too.
James is not bad but has his "nasal" voice ; melodies sometimes really bad
Sounds like the bad DT of late (sound and compositions)
Technically good
Some tracks are good but all in all too many bad things.
Conclusion : musically uninspired, artistically poor (lyrics are meh). The reviewer doesn't want to listen to it again.
Ouch!!!
I don't I'll enjoy this album if all the song have the screams in them. There is just nothing for me to sing too.
I don't I'll enjoy this albumI don't I'll either.
My girlfriend translated it for me. I love her, but be wary, her French is questionable :DQuote
-The synth sounds are terrible, I do not like them at all!
-As for the growling parts- when you do not know how [to growl properly] and the music does not lend itself to growling, it fails… especially because it does not mesh with James' voice very well.
-This last thing isn't as big as an issue, but [James] has a tendency to make that unbearably nasal voice, and the lines of the song sometimes sound calamitous (the refrain of “I Need You”, help!)…
-It sounds a lot like the bad newer DT stuff on many occasions, both in sounds and in compounds, whereas EOP had surprised many people, ditto for Mullmuzzler etc.
Regardless, the playing is very technical (drum parts are violent here and there, some very good solos), but without the name of James on the cover it would have been a rotten album among many others, and I am convinced I would have never listened to it.
There are a few good songs. “Over The Edge” is for me a saving grace, others like “Superstar” or “Euphoric” are pretty good too, but there is always an icky synth sound or a passage sung in nu-metal that really any schmuck just as good at doing skateboard tricks as singing emo music could have done. It makes me want to press skip or even stop completely.
… Musically it’s at best not inspired, artistically it’s poor. I probably will not return. Hopefully they will not assign me an article on Music Waves, otherwise the poor James will be sacked.
I think the first song is much better than this one, but I'm still hesitant to buy this.Hesitation will triumph! :tup
Honestly, I don't know if I will buy it. And yet, JLB is the reason why I still listen to DT. "I'm lost! Show me the way..."
The final result is just as mixed as people's perceptions of what it actually is supposed to be. For people who don't listen to growls or harsh music, it comes across as being much greater than the normal Portnoy tough-guy vocals. For people who like growls and harsh music, its too watered down to be impressive.
And that Guillory guy does an awesome impression of Stephen Baldwin
And that Guillory guy does an awesome impression of Stephen Baldwin
And does it have to do with music at all?
And that Guillory guy does an awesome impression of Stephen Baldwin
And does it have to do with music at all?
Absolutely nothing. It was just bothering me who he reminded me of. Then it just hit me when I glanced at the 'Usual Suspects' poster on my wall. :)
Arrrrrghh,Don't know if anyone caught this in all the hubbub... JLB posted it on his board, on MP-day. Got lost a bit, but it's a very cool post.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. All I ask is realize the music and style for what it stands for. It is to be powerful. Don't let one element ( guttural vocals ) cloud your judgement or taint it's relevance within the context of the song. This creates an amazing contrast between my vocals and Peter's. It allows the song to breathe, complimenting both styles of singing, deepening the message. Open your minds to what is going on musically and vocally and I assure you it will be very dynamic and sastisfying. Can't force you to liking something but now you know why Matt and I went this route and wrote like we did including the foreseeable controversial vocals.
Now walk the plank, you disbelievers...
Captain James Sparrow.
:clap:Quote from: James LaBrieArrrrrghh,Don't know if anyone caught this in all the hubbub... JLB posted it on his board, on MP-day. Got lost a bit, but it's a very cool post.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. All I ask is realize the music and style for what it stands for. It is to be powerful. Don't let one element ( guttural vocals ) cloud your judgement or taint it's relevance within the context of the song. This creates an amazing contrast between my vocals and Peter's. It allows the song to breathe, complimenting both styles of singing, deepening the message. Open your minds to what is going on musically and vocally and I assure you it will be very dynamic and sastisfying. Can't force you to liking something but now you know why Matt and I went this route and wrote like we did including the foreseeable controversial vocals.
Now walk the plank, you disbelievers...
Captain James Sparrow.
I love the fact that James and Matt wrote most of the music.
Pretty excited for this now. I know I dogged it at the beginning, but I've come around.
Mislead kicks some major ASS!
Amazing! :omg: :omg:
Someone got their copy of the CD today. :hat
Someone got their copy of the CD today. :hatWho was it?
Haha nicely done, Nick. However, I did post mine first... :loser:
So, have either of you listened to it yet?
I MUST KNOW WHAT YOU THINK OF IT!
Someone got their copy of the CD today. :hat
And Marco rips in case you were wondering.Marco's a great guitarist and always does a good job. I often don't care for his choice of tone, though. He goes for a lot of tones that sound very over-processed to me.
I don't have it yet but was listening to some James LaBrie solo last night to get ready for it. And I came to the conclusion that I really don't understand the love for Crucify. James does not sound good in that song at all. Can someone explain to me why this song is so popular?I do think James sounds GREAT in Crucify (and in all of the album, for that matter).
I really don't understand the love for Crucify. James does not sound good in that song at all. Can someone explain to me why this song is so popular?
I don't have it yet but was listening to some James LaBrie solo last night to get ready for it. And I came to the conclusion that I really don't understand the love for Crucify. James does not sound good in that song at all. Can someone explain to me why this song is so popular?
I don't have it yet but was listening to some James LaBrie solo last night to get ready for it. And I came to the conclusion that I really don't understand the love for Crucify. James does not sound good in that song at all. Can someone explain to me why this song is so popular?I think I know the problem you're having with this one. Does it end with a flute solo?
My copy has One More Time ending suddenly :(I don't have it yet but was listening to some James LaBrie solo last night to get ready for it. And I came to the conclusion that I really don't understand the love for Crucify. James does not sound good in that song at all. Can someone explain to me why this song is so popular?I think I know the problem you're having with this one. Does it end with a flute solo?
Euphoric is amazing. Best song on the album by far, imo.The drums in the verses ruin it for me. Seems totally out of tempo.
Can't wait to just relax and chill with this album later tonight. Does anyone know why it's listed "Guillory/Labrie" all in the book except for one song, "Superstar," where LaBrie's name comes first?
Where is the discussion about this?I shipped mine to my house instead of campus, so I'll have to wait til the weekend to listen to it.
Hm. Well, so far, I like it. Seems a bit samey, but I still like it a lot.I'm starting my second listen right now. And yes, the fact that it's all very samey is my biggest complaint about it. Nothing stands out.
Matt Guillory's Facebook: "Thanks everyone! The reaction to Static Impulse has been overwhelmingly positive. Both James and I, as well as the rest of the guys have been getting awesome feedback. Look out for a Nov/Dec USA/Canada 2010 tour and hopefully a Feb/March Europe 2011!"Schweet!
I asked earlier, but now that more people have heard it, I'ma ask again. Anyone think the solo on Jekyll or Hyde sounds like Petrucci?
I asked earlier, but now that more people have heard it, I'ma ask again. Anyone think the solo on Jekyll or Hyde sounds like Petrucci?
The beginning of the solo sounds tone and playing wise like it was lifted from Suspended Animation.
aside from that, is it crazy that I think EoP was actually heavier than this album? Sure SI is heavy and has the screams, but EoP had much more CHUGGA CHUGGA CHUGGA stuff going on.Static Impulse sounds cleaner, somehow. EoP has that sort of dirty, jagged heaviness. In spite of the fairly frequent heavy vocals, EoP's net result is a lot more caustic.
However, the contrast loses its impact when it is done on nearly every single song.
Awesome, it's on Spotify now!O yay, I might check it out sometime soon then :).
jeeze would it fucking kill ANYONE to do an Ottawa show.
jeeze would it fucking kill ANYONE to do an Ottawa show.
Generally speaking, many touring musicians only recognize Toronto and Montreal as potential venues in Canada. And yeah, it blows. Imagine being way the hell out east in Halifax...the closest date on a given tour, if you're remarkably lucky, is Quebec City.
I don't consider this album to have any real weak spots. But does anyone think that Jekyll and Hyde is one of the weakest compared to the rest?
I don't consider this album to have any real weak spots. But does anyone think that Jekyll and Hyde is one of the weakest compared to the rest?Jekyll or Hyde is, to me, one of the catchiest songs on the album.
I really like Jekyll and Hyde. The only track I find pretty boring is Who You Think I Am, the rest are fab.This.
I really like Jekyll and Hyde. The only track I find pretty boring is Who You Think I Am, the rest are fab.Yeah, Jekyll or Hyde was so awesome, I couldn't listen to the rest of the album when I got to it the first time. I just kept repeating this track over and over again, the chorus is so damn catchy the song would have been awesome even if it was just the chorus repeating for 3 minutes. Or more. And the way he says Hyde slightly heavier than the clean singing before it - I'm gonna listen to it again right now.
James is good, of course, but the music just sounds too much like noise. Sometimes, that can work, but unfortunately, it just comes off as muddy in this album.There is definitely something about the production that feels like it's holding the album back to me. A little more clarity between instruments, and having the keys up in the mix a bit.
That's funny, I actually am not overly keen with the chours of J&H. It's good, but much better chourus' on the album. Maybe it just hasn't clicked with me yet.
16 pages, tl;dr.Yes.
What's the consensus? Is SI worth the money?
Can't believe there are 2 NC shows. Holy crap.
It would be awesome if I found some spare money laying around to hit the Charlotte show.Can't believe there are 2 NC shows. Holy crap.
I'm as surprised as you are.
Can't believe there are 2 NC shows. Holy crap.
I'm as surprised as you are.
It would be awesome if I found some spare money laying around to hit the Charlotte show.Can't believe there are 2 NC shows. Holy crap.
I'm as surprised as you are.
16 pages, tl;dr.
What's the consensus? Is SI worth the money?
I really like CJS's voice, so I don't understand why the producers add all these weird radio effects to it. Like I said before, the whole album just sounds like mud. 2/10
I mean, there aren't even any songs over six minutes! How good could it possibly be? :P
Um...huh?
You listening to the same record? The mix and master is fine. Not the absolute greatest, but I would imagine for the budget, its top notch. I really like this record. I find its one that has to be listened to thoroughly a few times, but the songs start sticking with you soon after. Thumbs up here.
I really like CJS's voice, so I don't understand why the producers add all these weird radio effects to it. Like I said before, the whole album just sounds like mud. 2/10
I mean, there aren't even any songs over six minutes! How good could it possibly be? :P
The production is awesome.
In fact, I think Jens Bogren now qualifies as my favorite producer.
I'll keep that in mind.It would be awesome if I found some spare money laying around to hit the Charlotte show.Can't believe there are 2 NC shows. Holy crap.
I'm as surprised as you are.
No you should go to the Raleigh show. My chances of going go up %100 if I get to meet you and TOX.
Apparently Static Impulse sold 1,700 units in the US during the opening week and LaBrie went to #14 on the Hot new artists chart or something.
The production is awesome.I don't know, I'm not crazy about the production. It's not terrible by any means, but it could definitely be better.
In fact, I think Jens Bogren now qualifies as my favorite producer.
I changed my mind.Personally, I've listened to the album on good headphones and on a high quality stereo setup. I still think the production/mix could have been better. It's not bad at all, but the instrumentation gets a little muddy at times.
I listened to the album through my laptop's speakers.
I decided to listen to it again through headphones.
:metal
Is it just me or does anyone else get a linkin park vibe from the chorus in "I need you"?
Is it just me or does anyone else get a linkin park vibe from the chorus in "I need you"?Please don't ruin the song for me :lol
I was pissed off so I bought this album. 6 songs in and I am disappoint. Wouldn't be so bad if Sir Screamsalot would shut the fuck up. Talk about emotionless drivel. James sounds great though.
Is it just me or does anyone else get a linkin park vibe from the chorus in "I need you"?Please don't ruin the song for me :lol
I was pissed off so I bought this album. 6 songs in and I am disappoint. Wouldn't be so bad if Sir Screamsalot would shut the fuck up. Talk about emotionless drivel. James sounds great though.
I don't really hear it all that much, but James did mention Linkin Park in his latest interview, when talking about using both harsh and clean vocals in the same song, so there's probably some influence there.Is it just me or does anyone else get a linkin park vibe from the chorus in "I need you"?Please don't ruin the song for me :lol
lol I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I love I need you...maybe it's just me :D
What's up. We will be playing MullMuzzler song. DT songs,not sure if well do any. Let's take a poll. Who wants DT and who doesn't. CJS.
This is such great feedback. So far it looks like the Solo material will be it. To be honest, I feel the same. Cheers, James.
But cool that he intends to play some Mullmuzzler, even though I haven't actually heard any. I've only heard EoP and SIYou owe it to yourself to give them a listen. They're fantastic.
So.....Euphoric is about James falling in love with a fat chick??Yes, and she propelled him to the sky where he met a man.
So.....Euphoric is about James falling in love with a fat chick??Yes, and she propelled him to the sky where he met a man
Maybe it's The Count of Tuscany.
:neverusethis:
Ok, so I just got my copy from amazon.com and haven't had a chance to read through the last several pages of this thread... is anyone else's booklet all fuggered up? I got the same couple pages repeated with others omitted.
Ok, so I just got my copy from amazon.com and haven't had a chance to read through the last several pages of this thread... is anyone else's booklet all fuggered up? I got the same couple pages repeated with others omitted.
Ok, so I just got my copy from amazon.com and haven't had a chance to read through the last several pages of this thread... is anyone else's booklet all fuggered up? I got the same couple pages repeated with others omitted.
Well, we are talking about the guy who made his public debut in front of the world wearing a Napalm Death t-shirt.Good point.
Also, I'm a little susprised that this style of music and the screamy vocals is something that appeals to JLB. I just didn't think that would be his cup of tea. I'm not sure why, I just assumed that I guess. Can't wait to see him live next month!
Yeah, I wonder how his tastes could change/evolve since '87...
Yeah, I wonder how his tastes could change/evolve since '87...
they did and hes been corrupted and likes this screamy shit now :\ its a shame because it would have been a good album if not so.
You remind me of me. When I was 11. :) The album rocks! (although I want to hear the more "awakey" type of singing JLB originally had in mind too).Yeah, I wonder how his tastes could change/evolve since '87...
they did and hes been corrupted and likes this screamy shit now :\ its a shame because it would have been a good album if not so.
Yeah, I wonder how his tastes could change/evolve since '87...
they did and hes been corrupted and likes this screamy shit now :\ its a shame because it would have been a good album if not so.
This album would have been so much better if it had growls instead of screams.
I think people who don't like growling should just get over themselves really.
Pretty sure James said in an interview that he and Matt split the lyrics half and half, while the music was more organic and collaborative.
Yea, I assumed they split lyric duties. There just seems like there are some lyric parts that don't seem LaBrie-like. Not that the lyrics are bad, but not as good as lyrics in "Vacant" and other LaBrie-penned lyrics. And whenever I hear him sing "caged in with all the crackheads" in the song "I Need You," it doesn't feel like something he would write. But who knows!But then again, nothing on the album is as lyrically embarrassing as Prophets of War.
I don't know, the info may be out there though.Pretty sure James said in an interview that he and Matt split the lyrics half and half, while the music was more organic and collaborative.
Do we know who wrote which ones specifically?
except for Celebrity, where James did both.
except for Celebrity, where James did both.
:lol That's awesome.
except for Celebrity, where James did both.
:lol That's awesome.
Actually, I should revise it. It's just weird because most the songs are credited as "Gulliory/LaBrie," whereas this one is "LaBrie/Gulliory"
This album has amazing replay value. Jekyll Or Hyde is the best.
Hi Everyone,
Speculative takes on some of the lyrics... Grin
If you may let me clarify a couple. Euphoric is not about dating an overweigh girl. This is about finding someone who in the eyes of the beholder is their 10 without falling into a category that the media would like you to think a perfect 10 is, such as these model, skeletal, sick looking chics. To each his own but no thanks. Also that ones personality and character doesn't work for everyone ( a bit odd or eccentric ) but if it does for you, then that's all that matters.
Coming Home was inspired by the show Dexter who is a vigilante serial killer. I took the liberties to take this character and have him in the position of incarceration confessing to the very people who helped him to become more connected to the human emotional spectrum. At the same time he has accepted his sentence, which is death by lethal injection. He asks his family for forgiveness. He wants them to know that he is grateful for giving him a life of normalcy, love and awakening and that he truly regrets the dishonesty.
There you have it.
Take care my friends,
James.
Hey Everyone,
Yes it's unfortunately true. We ran into a big snag with immigration and work visas so at this point we had no option but to cancel. This is a big blow to all of us in the band. I feel sick about this. We have such an incredible band and there was nothing more we wanted to do than play this for the fans. It's not good no matter how u look at this. I am deeply sorry and will do all I can to make this up to you on e we figure it out.
Peace,
James.
I like the album. The growling vocals are a good combination with JLB's vocals. Anyway, a bit annoying sometimes. My favourite songs are:
Euphoric
I Tried
Just Watch Me
One More Time
Over The Edge
Superstar
Specially "Just watch me" and "I tried" are wonderful song for me.
I didn't know JLB solo career, so I got Elements of Persuasion too. Another fantastic album. JLB is not just a really talented singer, it is a really talented composer.
This album has amazing replay value. Jekyll Or Hyde is the best.
J&H is one of my bottom 3 of this album, I guess that shows how strong it is.
Ranking;
1. I Need You
2. Mislead
3. Over The Edge
4. One More Time
5. Euphoric
6. Just Watch Me
7. I Tried
8. Superstar
9. Who You Think I Am
10. Jekyll or Hyde
11. This Is War
12. Coming Home
This changes often though.
James always wanted it to be called James LaBrie, but the label wouldn't let him do that until EoP for some reason. And yeah, I've always thought that "James LaBrie" was kinda a lame name for the project since it's obviously a whole band collaboration. But I guess it's good for sales and stuff. Really, though, JLB could be much more than just a solo project though.
James always wanted it to be called James LaBrie, but the label wouldn't let him do that until EoP for some reason. And yeah, I've always thought that "James LaBrie" was kinda a lame name for the project since it's obviously a whole band collaboration. But I guess it's good for sales and stuff. Really, though, JLB could be much more than just a solo project though.
Yeah, that's what James said, if I remember correctly.James always wanted it to be called James LaBrie, but the label wouldn't let him do that until EoP for some reason. And yeah, I've always thought that "James LaBrie" was kinda a lame name for the project since it's obviously a whole band collaboration. But I guess it's good for sales and stuff. Really, though, JLB could be much more than just a solo project though.
I could have sworn that it was the other way around. He wanted the albums to be released as "Mullmuzzler", but the label felt that his albums would get more exposure as "James LaBrie", which is why the second album is actually called something like "James LaBrie's Mullmuzzler 2" and all subsequent ones have been as "James LaBrie".
Been spinning this album again after a couple of weeks break, this is amaizng. Definitely one of the top albums of 2010.
Been spinning this album again after a couple of weeks break, this is amaizng. Definitely one of the top albums of 2010.
I saw. You posted practically every single song in the "What are you listening to?" thread. :lol
Been spinning this album again after a couple of weeks break, this is amaizng. Definitely one of the top albums of 2010.
I saw. You posted practically every single song in the "What are you listening to?" thread. :lol
This album has amazing replay value. Jekyll Or Hyde is the best.
J&H is one of my bottom 3 of this album, I guess that shows how strong it is.
Ranking;
1. I Need You
2. Mislead
3. Over The Edge
4. One More Time
5. Euphoric
6. Just Watch Me
7. I Tried
8. Superstar
9. Who You Think I Am
10. Jekyll or Hyde
11. This Is War
12. Coming Home
This changes often though.
Coming Home is far too long on all these lists, #2 for me.
I just don't find it all that interesting to be honest.
I just don't find it all that interesting to be honest.
Me too. It's okay, but a disappointing end to an amazing album.
I think Coming Home is probably the best track on the album. That's the soft one right?I like it a lot, as well.
But that's probably because I've been listening to almost nothing but classical, celtic and new age music for the past month.
Over the Edge solo section
Hoping for rescheduled U.S. tour dates.
I love the whole album from beginning to end. It's my new favorite. :2metal:
Matt Guillory on Facebook: "Will soon have a KICKASS announcement to make regarding 2011... stay tuned. -Matt"
Hoping for UK/European tour.
Maybe James' solo band will be opening for DT on their next tour.Matt Guillory on Facebook: "Will soon have a KICKASS announcement to make regarding 2011... stay tuned. -Matt"
Hoping for UK/European tour.
Interesting. I remember James said that it would be tricky considering DT's new album/tour cycle. Will be interesting to see what it is.
So I wonder if anyone can recommend me another metal band that plays similar style to what can be heard on Static impulse. I hope I'll be able to enjoy this kind of music with someone else singing.Soilwork. They have released albums far better than Static Impulse (IMO) and before it. I strongly recommend Natural Born Chaos ("As We Speak" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UwweZNH8yI)was a song that got me hooked to them) and for a softer album, Figure Number Five (Don't like that album that much TBH, but for what it is, it's decent)
So I wonder if anyone can recommend me another metal band that plays similar style to what can be heard on Static impulse. I hope I'll be able to enjoy this kind of music with someone else singing.Soilwork. They have released albums far better than Static Impulse (IMO) and before it. I strongly recommend Natural Born Chaos ("As We Speak" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UwweZNH8yI)was a song that got me hooked to them) and for a softer album, Figure Number Five (Don't like that album that much TBH, but for what it is, it's decent)
I may check them out, thanks guys. :tup
Check out Rejection Role by Soilwork, great song IMHO.
These tracks sound interesting, I'm glad it's some melodic stuff. The vocals are slightly more aggressive, but I think I'll be able to enjoy this. :smiley:
Glad you liked it, Soilwork is an amazing band, and their last album (The Panic Broadcast) is a pretty good return to form after what was Sworn to A New Divide, which is for me their weakest album. Other bunch of songs you may like: "The Bringer", "Departure Plan", and from their new album "Night Comes Clean".
According to Blabbermouth James is to guest on the new Eden's Curse album, singing backgrounds on all songs and a duet on one. The last album had Pamela (Sister Mary) Moore doing the same thing.
eden's Curse are ok, nothing new but ok.
https://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=151785
Static Impulse and Elements Of Persuasion are equal, just depends on taste. I prefer Static Impulse.Yeah, it depends what you're looking for. I find it hard to compare them because they're so different, really.
I think the ballads on both are very weak but everyone seems to love Euphoric...the drums in it are a real turn off for me though.
So, how is Keep it to Yourself? I think Mullmuzzler 2 is really good (and way overlooked), but I never got the first one, probably because of the freakish cover and I believe there's a song about Bill Clinton of all things.
I believe there's a song about Bill Clinton of all things.God in Billy Clinton
I forgot all about that :lol I swear I've seen the video of JLB saying that. Anyone have it or know where to find it?I know it's one of the clips in this video, don't remember exactly where. It's worth listening all the way through regardless. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzBCsWv2jfQ
It's at about 1:10.I forgot all about that :lol I swear I've seen the video of JLB saying that. Anyone have it or know where to find it?I know it's one of the clips in this video, don't remember exactly where. It's worth listening all the way through regardless. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzBCsWv2jfQ
iPhone, actually. And since people will pay $299 for an iPhone, they'll pay $299 for a Droid.
So it really is equivalent to an iPod Touch? Apps, mp3 playback, touch screen, basically everything a smart phone has except the phone itself?
Static Impulse is great, despite the horrid backing vocals. Can't stand that core-ish barking. Good thing the songs are catchy enough to make up for it.
I would actually liked it more if they used regular/old-school growls, or any kind of harsh vocals, rather than the modern variation that's used nowadays in the 'core sub-genres. They just make me cringe.Peter's growling technique is pretty commonplace in melodeath, I would think. I dig it, no matter who else uses it. Imagine Static Impulse with deep, guttural growls, it just wouldn't work :)
Oh, and I'm a "she". ;)
Peter is one of the best thing about Static Impulse for me. And I love the fact that JLB and MG went bravely into a new direction, and that JLB confirmed what he has been saying for years - that it's not just his solo outlet and his battleground, so to speak, but a band, his AND Matt's "thing".....
Static Impulse is great, despite the horrid backing vocals. Can't stand that core-ish barking. Good thing the songs are catchy enough to make up for it.
Peter is one of the best thing about Static Impulse for me. And I love the fact that JLB and MG went bravely into a new direction, and that JLB confirmed what he has been saying for years - that it's not just his solo outlet and his battleground, so to speak, but a band, his AND Matt's "thing".....
Yup :tup
Compared to Static impulse, the Mullmuzzler records are (just in my own opinion) too boring :|
And I like growls, at least good growls.Don't wanna derail the thread much, but I'm curious - what are your favorite growlers? :)
Calling MM2 boring is a crime in itself, no matter the context.
And I like growls, at least good growls.Don't wanna derail the thread much, but I'm curious - what are your favorite growlers? :)
https://blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=184279
Former Soilwork Guitarist Peter Wichers is helping to co-write the new solo album :tup
https://blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=184279
Former Soilwork Guitarist Peter Wichers is helping to co-write the new solo album :tup
https://blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=184279 (https://blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=184279)
Former Soilwork Guitarist Peter Wichers is helping to co-write the new solo album :tup
So now you have three guys writing the music for James' solo album.
I have a feeling the percentage of input James actually has is getting into single digits.
So now you have three guys writing the music for James' solo album.I agree with you. I've always kind of got that vibe though because they record it in Sweden so I think he's not very present for the writing for it, he does have input, but it's limited to the clips they send him and he can put his input.
I have a feeling the percentage of input James actually has is getting into single digits.
So now you have three guys writing the music for James' solo album.I agree with you. I've always kind of got that vibe though because they record it in Sweden so I think he's not very present for the writing for it, he does have input, but it's limited to the clips they send him and he can put his input.
I have a feeling the percentage of input James actually has is getting into single digits.
Portnoy hinted that JLB isn't that involved in it. But you can only take that to a certain extent.
You didn't step on my toes, I am just irritated how we take everyone's words for truth... it's the internet, and that person could casually lie to us, and we know Dream Theater members wouldn't ;)
Well, Dominici lies about the end of the world.
THE WORLD DOESN'T EXIST?!?!?!?Ready for a mindfuck.
Someone needs to 'shop Obaminici. Like right now.THE WORLD DOESN'T EXIST?!?!?!?Ready for a mindfuck.
Dominici is president
No, I'm not talking about in DT, more about his solo material. A fan said that shortly after MP left DT, he brought up JLB's solo material and MP got all irritated and said that JLB is not involved at all in his solo material besides lyrics
Also, Mullmuzzler 2 is AMAZINGAMAZINGAMAZING. I don't know why on earth I didn't listen to this before. James sounds absolutely amazing.
Yeah, it was at the peak of his JLB disdain.
MP said that? lolpornay
Also, Mullmuzzler 2 is AMAZINGAMAZINGAMAZING. I don't know why on earth I didn't listen to this before. James sounds absolutely amazing.
:lol and once again, a thread gives birth to quality comedy. :metal We shall name it... Stanley.
It is known.:lol and once again, a thread gives birth to quality comedy. :metal We shall name it... Stanley.
Artie would be better because that name is a comedy for itself, it always reminds me of Artie Fufkin from Spinal Tap's record company :lol
Yeah, there are cool recordings of EoP stuff but I'm not a big fan of it. Really hoping they'll get the band to tour this time. Really really hoping. There should be a hole in the schedule somewhere.
I think they'll surprise you ;) I remember them considering playing it before the SI tour plans crashed.
Yea James asked if we wanted to hear newer material and DT covers, or like new and old material or someththing like that. I am pretty sure he was going to dive into Mlmzr 1/2.
Speaking of that... if the JLB band were to pull out a DT cover, what do you think could get pulled off nicely? I've been wondering this for years now
...................... Honor thy father?
...they could probably do a decent version of Lie or The Mirror.
OR BOTH :JayOctavarium:Our trains of thought run similarly :metal
I remember that the twitter poll that ensued resulted in the majority stating that they would rather hear an all James set. Afterwards James tweeted that he agreed with the vox populi, as playing DT songs alone would feel in a way off.
If in the past two years something has changed, I would like to see him play Anna Lee, or maybe Light Fuse And Get Away. :)
I think they should play (if they chose to) a song that puts the focus of the audience on James rather than the whole band, like Anna Lee, as I said, or Wait For Sleep.With Peter* growling "in with the ashes" :xbones
Speaking of that... if the JLB band were to pull out a DT cover, what do you think could get pulled off nicely? I've been wondering this for years nowA Nightmare to Remember? :biggrin:
Also, Mullmuzzler 2 is AMAZINGAMAZINGAMAZING. I don't know why on earth I didn't listen to this before. James sounds absolutely amazing.
Not sure why I've never checked these out over the years.You said it yourself:
I have Static Impulse, which aside from the great drumming is just OK. I also have a copy of EOP, which I;ve never really cared for.
After one listen to each, I am blown away vocally. When was the last time he has sung like this on a Dream Theater album? SFAM?I'm not sure he's ever sung like this on a Dream Theater album. It's very weird. Solo LaBrie has a completely different voice to DT LaBrie. It's... dizzier. But more expressive. He's got a unique voice anyway, but it's like it's... more unique, which I'm aware isn't a phrase that makes much sense, but I think it applies here. He sounds Jamesier.
[...]
I was so happy to have a track like Far From Heaven and even Beneath The Surface on ADTOE, but I was really thinking that with MP gone, James would really step out and let it rip. Vocally, l was disappointed with ADTOE, not so much with the actual singing, but I was definitely let down because of my expectations for James.
Solo LaBrie has a completely different voice to DT LaBrie. It's... dizzier. But more expressive. He's got a unique voice anyway, but it's like it's... more unique, which I'm aware isn't a phrase that makes much sense, but I think it applies here. He sounds Jamesier.Dizzier is the best word ever to describe what he does there.
I wonder if it might be because he's not writing the melodies in the same way that he does for his solo projects. Or it might be the style - even the driven ones, Venice Burning, Shores of Avalon, Guardian Angel, it's not exactly metal-heavy, and the Elements of Persuasion James is a lot closer to his Dream Theater voice. It could be because he's very much the centrepiece of the Mullmuzzler albums, which he isn't in quite the same way on a Dream Theater album or even the James LaBrie albums. Either way, it's weird. And while I think it'd possibly be a trifle wearying for a whole Dream Theater album, as it's a very full-on vocal style, it's something I would like to hear brought out that little bit more.
I think he did get a little Jamesier on ADToE. I remember being struck by how On the Backs of Angels sounded a lot like what you'd get if you mixed John, Jordan and James' solo albums together. Don't hear it now, though. Can only hear... well, Dream Theater.
His vocals on Venice Burning are so intense. I love the song.Totally.
I realize I may be an aberration here for saying this, but I have a keyboard and some free time so what the fuck - if the new JLB solo is ANYTHING like Static Impulse, Debbie will be a VERY happy goil.I'm totally with you, girl.
I normally don't like the "screaming" vocal style at all, but I don't mind it on Static Impulse. Wildoer isn't the lead vocalist, which I think helps me to like the album a lot, and I like the juxtaposition and call/response between Wildoer and LaBrie. There are still moments where it's a bit much for me, but I like songs themselves enough that I easily get past it.Pretty much this. A whole album of it would be too much, but I really enjoy the way it's brought into Static Impulse. If the quality remains high for the new album then I couldn't care what style they use really!
My interest in both this album and DT's is slightly diminished by their previous albums, although I'm much more optimistic about DT's next album than this one.
As soon as I got to "screaming vocals", I lost hope for this one. I like Wildoer's deep growls, but not his regular shouty vocals. Maybe Static Impulse would be an ok album if I could get past them, but I just can't at all. :dunno:
My interest in both this album and DT's is slightly diminished by their previous albums, although I'm much more optimistic about DT's next album than this one.
As soon as I got to "screaming vocals", I lost hope for this one. I like Wildoer's deep growls, but not his regular shouty vocals. Maybe Static Impulse would be an ok album if I could get past them, but I just can't at all. :dunno:
Blob, no offense, but I think you're the only person I've ever seen on this forum who's gotten less interested in DT over time for all the wrong reasons ;)
Luckily I don't go by your opinion of "wrong", I have my own mind. ADTOE is the first time since I got into DT in 2003 that I have lost interest in DT. I haven't even listened to the album since 2011. There was very little staying power on that album for me, so this next album is going to be an important one.
And there are plenty of people on the forum who weren't any more interested in ADTOE than any previous albums, incidentally the same disinterested people who don't frequent DT side anymore.
Static Impulse goes one step beyond most of those modern bands - the drumming tends to be more aggressive than usual, the harsh vocals are slightly more varied, there's shredding both on the guitar and on keyboards, but those aggressive elements are not only downplayed by the "regular" pop sensibility of modern metal, but also by the extreeeeemely catchy choruses (I rarely hear something as catchy as Mislead or One More Time), by Matt bringing some more modern overtones on keys, by having very simple, non-evil or anything like that, down-to-earth lyrics growled, which is quite fresh and interesting, and by putting straight up pop songs (Euphoric) on the record. Now that is one interesting playground for James, and I think it becomes him perfectly.
I mean, I'm not saying it's a really original album, both in general and in the genre, but it just goes one step beyond what you can normally hear in modern metal when it comes to maintaining that fine balance - the edge of the blade is sharper, and of course, it helps having such interesting players and one of the best voices around to make it really work.
I normally don't like the "screaming" vocal style at all, but I don't mind it on Static Impulse. Wildoer isn't the lead vocalist, which I think helps me to like the album a lot, and I like the juxtaposition and call/response between Wildoer and LaBrie. There are still moments where it's a bit much for me, but I like songs themselves enough that I easily get past it.Pretty much this. A whole album of it would be too much, but I really enjoy the way it's brought into Static Impulse. If the quality remains high for the new album then I couldn't care what style they use really!
My interest in both this album and DT's is slightly diminished by their previous albums, although I'm much more optimistic about DT's next album than this one.
As soon as I got to "screaming vocals", I lost hope for this one. I like Wildoer's deep growls, but not his regular shouty vocals. Maybe Static Impulse would be an ok album if I could get past them, but I just can't at all. :dunno:
Blob, no offense, but I think you're the only person I've ever seen on this forum who's gotten less interested in DT over time for all the wrong reasons ;)
I normally don't like the "screaming" vocal style at all, but I don't mind it on Static Impulse. Wildoer isn't the lead vocalist, which I think helps me to like the album a lot, and I like the juxtaposition and call/response between Wildoer and LaBrie. There are still moments where it's a bit much for me, but I like songs themselves enough that I easily get past it.
*total spot on post by our resident ghost*
:metal :metal :metal :metal :cjs:
:cjs:
Someone needs to steal Matt Guillory's phone. :|*volunteers*
Someone needs to steal Matt Guillory's phone. :|*volunteers*
Matt Guillory posted this on Facebook!
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7300/8733894822_9fc6a4449f_z.jpg)
:rollinSomeone needs to steal Matt Guillory's phone. :|*volunteers*
Because you are probably more obsessed with James than anyone else on these boardsYou are both overestimating my obsession and underestimating other individuals on board :D
Because you are probably more obsessed with James than anyone else on these boards
Because you are probably more obsessed with James than anyone else on these boards
Violet and I would like to disagree with you, mister. :angry:
Whatever happened to Violet?
She hasn't been online since Jan :(
She hasn't been online since Jan :(
WHO IS JAN AND WHAT HAS SHE DONE WITH VIOLET?:dangerwillrobinson:
Is this her?
Cover looks awesome! Can't wait for this. :metal :metal :metal :cjs:
Good to see they're keeping the harsh vocals, I really liked 'em.
Looking forward to this. I hope the screams are kept to a minimum.
The album cover reminds me of Static Impulse and the album title reminds me of the Arch/Matheos album title. I'm not saying that's good or band, it just reminds me of those things.
:|Wish I was excited for this. The screaming nonsense and the way-too-heavy music makes the last album unlistenable to me.
I don't know why James does this. He doesn't seem like the kind of guy who even likes this kind of music. Makes him seem like he's trying too hard to be relevant.
The album cover reminds me of Static Impulse and the album title reminds me of the Arch/Matheos album title.
The album cover reminds me of Static Impulse and the album title reminds me of the Arch/Matheos album title.
My exact same reactions!
I saw this post, and got really excited! The only JLB solo album I have listened to and own is Static Impulse, but I like it enough (and am enough of a JLB fan :lol ) to want to get it.
The album cover reminds me of Static Impulse and the album title reminds me of the Arch/Matheos album title.
My exact same reactions!
Maybe an ode to the Arch Matheos album? I also think the Arch Matheos album cover has a similar theme like the burning/flaming body (JLB's has the flaming faces)
So, they are releasing the album in August. If I recall correctly, they didn't tour on Static Impulse because of visa issues. I'm sure JLB will be touring with DT in the fall, so I wonder if they will squeeze in JLB tourdates in the late summer before a DT tour begins.
Pretty psyched for this. It should make the wait for the new DT album go a bit quicker!That's what I thought. :coolio
Static Impulse had more balls than the past 3 DT albums combined.
Looking forward to this. I hope the screams are kept to a minimum.
I've been thinking about this all day, and I think JLB and Matt should change the album title and cover. It too closely resembles the artwork and title of Arch Matheos' album, Sympathethic Resonance, which was just released in 2011. While I'm sure lots of albums in the music industry have similar images and titles, Dream Theater and Fates Warning are two bands that have been very closely linked over the past 25 years. It feels lame that the artwork and titles are so similar. It makes me feel like this new JLB album isn't breaking new ground and is just regurgitating things already done, starting with the artwork and title which have already been done by a band closely associated to Dream Theater. Maybe Matt isn't a big Fates Warning guy, so it's possible he's not aware of it. But someone along the way should've picked up on the similarities and modified the artwork and title. Just my opinion.
The screams are radular, I say a moderate amount is just fine!
:tupThe screams are radular, I say a moderate amount is just fine!
FTFY :biggrin:
Looking forward to this. I hope the screams are kept to a minimum.
Let's lose the screams altogether.
Well imperfect resonance does continue the same style as SI. And the only similarity between those album covers is the flames. I like it, and don't really see how they so similar they need to change either.
Incredible news, seriously can't wait. IMO, the more screams the better. :metal^ yup, I'm with screams :biggrin:
It makes me feel like this new JLB album isn't breaking new ground and is just regurgitating things already done, starting with the artwork and title which have already been done by a band closely associated to Dream Theater.
Cover looks awesome! Can't wait for this. :metal :metal :metal :cjs:
Good to see they're keeping the harsh vocals, I really liked 'em.
I'm not really into the screamy stuff. But it does work in the context of the types of songs this band has done, and it's nice to have something different instead of just James doing what he does in Dream Theater. Looking forward to this one.
Static Impulse had more balls than the past 3 DT albums combined.
Interesting theory, seeing as how you described Systematic Chaos and Black Clouds (2 of the past 3 DT albums) as being very "metal" albums about a year ago. :lol
I guess this isn't the time to announce my new solo album, Chemical Resonance
(https://filebox.vt.edu/users/mrouser/resonancealbum.jpg)
Is Boba Fett still on bass? I liked what he brought to the band.
Incredible news, seriously can't wait. IMO, the more screams the better. :metal^ yup, I'm with screams :biggrin:
That would be fantastic, although I don't see it happening.
I guess this isn't the time to announce my new solo album, Chemical ResonanceThe last song - "Electrophilic Addition".
(https://filebox.vt.edu/users/mrouser/resonancealbum.jpg)
Yeah, part of the three-part suite "Addition Reactions" (I. Radical Addition, II. Nucleophilic Addition, III. Electrophilic Addition). :metalI guess this isn't the time to announce my new solo album, Chemical ResonanceThe last song - "Electrophilic Addition".
(https://filebox.vt.edu/users/mrouser/resonancealbum.jpg)
"Coming this week: the first single from the new album Impermanent Resonance Agony!!! Stay tuned! RAAWWWKK"Fuck. :metal
"Coming this week: the first single from the new album Impermanent Resonance Agony!!! Stay tuned! RAAWWWKK"Fuck. :metal
I guess this isn't the time to announce my new solo album, Chemical Resonance
(https://filebox.vt.edu/users/mrouser/resonancealbum.jpg)
And I'm not a hater of growls at all, I just don't think it fits here. I don't buy a JLB solo album to hear not JLB.
"Coming this week: the first single from the new album Impermanent Resonance Agony!!! Stay tuned! RAAWWWKK"
"Coming this week: the first single from the new album Impermanent Resonance Agony!!! Stay tuned! RAAWWWKK"
And I'm not a hater of growls at all, I just don't think it fits here. I don't buy a JLB solo album to hear not JLB.
So maybe JLB should sing the songs a cappella.... ;D
"Coming this week: the first single from the new album Impermanent Resonance Agony!!! Stay tuned! RAAWWWKK"
Me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=whwiMrBNWCA#t=21
Single tomorrow maybe?I hope.
Single tomorrow maybe?I hope.
"Coming this week: the first single from the new album Impermanent Resonance Agony!!! Stay tuned! RAAWWWKK"
Who is the chubby guy with glasses?
Don't bump this thread until there's a youtube link with the single, damn it!
Great timing! Here it is. James LaBrie video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCdedrXu1wI
Come on guys, you all feel for that? :lol
Come on guys, you all feel for that? :lol
I feel asleep.
Come on guys, you all feel for that? :lol
I feel asleep.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmIVGLrPJQQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmIVGLrPJQQ
For some reason this just pops into my head randomly at various times.
Sorry its been pushed back... First single from Impermanent Resonance "Agony" coming soon!! Stay tuned!!:'(
Must be contagious. :neverusethis:And years later, everyone will say that about everything DT-related that gets delayed, because that's the type of fanbase we are :lol
Must be contagious. :neverusethis:And years later, everyone will say that about everything DT-related that gets delayed, because that's the type of fanbase we are :lol
Must be contagious. :neverusethis:And years later, everyone will say that about everything DT-related that gets delayed, because that's the type of fanbase we are :lol
DTF - We forgive, but we don't forget.
Actually, we don't really forgive either. :lol
DTF - We forgive, but we don't forget.Basically this. :lol
Actually, we don't really forgive either. :lol
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/1010427_10152891157730024_131486839_n.jpg)Must be contagious. :neverusethis:And years later, everyone will say that about everything DT-related that gets delayed, because that's the type of fanbase we are :lol
DTF - We forgive, but we don't forget.
Actually, we don't really forgive either. :lol
So, I read the press release and it seems to imply that there are only clean vocals on this album? I know a lot of you like that screamo stuff, but it made Static Impulse pretty much unlistenable for me. Does anyone know what the vocals will be like on this new album? I'm gonna pass on it if it's like Static Impulse, that shit just ain't my cup of tea.
It's cool too see you folks discussing the new record already.We've kind of been discussing it for... months :lol
Does Matt qualify for VIP purple or no?All of this.
OH AND THANKS FOR THE UPDATE! :D
It's good to have you here, Matt. While you're around, is there anything you can tell us about the new album? How prevalent are the harsh vocals? Is the album going to be a continuation of the sound on Static Impulse, or will it be something else entirely?
It's good to have you here, Matt. While you're around, is there anything you can tell us about the new album? How prevalent are the harsh vocals? Is the album going to be a continuation of the sound on Static Impulse, or will it be something else entirely?
Hi Shadow:
The screaming is still very much there. I would also say that I think the album is much more balanced and dynamic overall. The material is very strong and catchy. These are some of James' best performances vocally (in my opinion) James and I are super stoked with how it came out.
If there are any other questions about this or even our past records, I'd be happy to answer them.
Cheers,
Matt
It's good to have you here, Matt. While you're around, is there anything you can tell us about the new album? How prevalent are the harsh vocals? Is the album going to be a continuation of the sound on Static Impulse, or will it be something else entirely?
Hi Shadow:
The screaming is still very much there. I would also say that I think the album is much more balanced and dynamic overall. The material is very strong and catchy. These are some of James' best performances vocally (in my opinion) James and I are super stoked with how it came out.
If there are any other questions about this or even our past records, I'd be happy to answer them.
Cheers,
Matt
Super classy, Matt. And welcome to DTF as others have said.
What do you mean when you say much more balanced?
B.Lee
It's good to have you here, Matt. While you're around, is there anything you can tell us about the new album? How prevalent are the harsh vocals? Is the album going to be a continuation of the sound on Static Impulse, or will it be something else entirely?
Hi Shadow:
The screaming is still very much there. I would also say that I think the album is much more balanced and dynamic overall. The material is very strong and catchy. These are some of James' best performances vocally (in my opinion) James and I are super stoked with how it came out.
If there are any other questions about this or even our past records, I'd be happy to answer them.
Cheers,
Matt
Super classy, Matt. And welcome to DTF as others have said.
What do you mean when you say much more balanced?
B.Lee
Static Impulse was a full-on metal assault with minimal dynamics. The new record has that solid metal foundation but it breathes better because theres a larger focus on ambience and mood and I feel it contributes to a more balanced sound overall.
It's good to have you here, Matt. While you're around, is there anything you can tell us about the new album? How prevalent are the harsh vocals? Is the album going to be a continuation of the sound on Static Impulse, or will it be something else entirely?
Hi Shadow:
The screaming is still very much there. I would also say that I think the album is much more balanced and dynamic overall. The material is very strong and catchy. These are some of James' best performances vocally (in my opinion) James and I are super stoked with how it came out.
If there are any other questions about this or even our past records, I'd be happy to answer them.
Cheers,
Matt
Super classy, Matt. And welcome to DTF as others have said.
What do you mean when you say much more balanced?
B.Lee
Static Impulse was a full-on metal assault with minimal dynamics. The new record has that solid metal foundation but it breathes better because theres a larger focus on ambience and mood and I feel it contributes to a more balanced sound overall.
:caffeine:
more along the lines of Elements? Or am I completely off?
Static Impulse was a full-on metal assault with minimal dynamics. The new record has that solid metal foundation but it breathes better because theres a larger focus on ambience and mood and I feel it contributes to a more balanced sound overall.You could see my musical boner from space now :lol
Static Impulse was a full-on metal assault with minimal dynamics. The new record has that solid metal foundation but it breathes better because theres a larger focus on ambience and mood and I feel it contributes to a more balanced sound overall.Now I'm even more stoked for this album than before.
It's good to have you here, Matt. While you're around, is there anything you can tell us about the new album? How prevalent are the harsh vocals? Is the album going to be a continuation of the sound on Static Impulse, or will it be something else entirely?
Hi Shadow:
The screaming is still very much there. I would also say that I think the album is much more balanced and dynamic overall. The material is very strong and catchy. These are some of James' best performances vocally (in my opinion) James and I are super stoked with how it came out.
If there are any other questions about this or even our past records, I'd be happy to answer them.
Cheers,
Matt
Super classy, Matt. And welcome to DTF as others have said.
What do you mean when you say much more balanced?
B.Lee
Static Impulse was a full-on metal assault with minimal dynamics. The new record has that solid metal foundation but it breathes better because theres a larger focus on ambience and mood and I feel it contributes to a more balanced sound overall.
Matt!
First of all, major props on all your work with James. I feel like the albums just keep getting better (although Elements of Persuasion is probably my personal favorite).
Can you fill us in on the recording process. I was a little surprised that the solo album and the Dream Theater album were recorded almost simultaneously. Did you guys record separately from James and he did his vocals in Canada like last time?
Also, can you let us know how many song lyrics were written by you or James.
Can't wait to hear this stuff!
Lyrically, it's appx 50/50. 14 Songs total (if you get the version with bonus tracks)
14 Songs total (if you get the version with bonus tracks)
From JLB's Twitter:
"First single 'Agony' streamed next Wednesday on UK's Metal Hammer site. Raaaaaaaaawk!!!"
Not to sound like a fan boy but Matt, all I wanna say is that Static Impulse was THE album of 2010. And EOP is in my top 50 albums of all time. IR is possibly now my most anticipated record of this year.
Writing began for the new record back in late 2011. Our process is a little different than DT. I prefer that we demo our songs to the point where our demos sound as close to the finished album as possible. So when we go into the studio to record, it's strictly a matter of execution as opposed to writing/being creative. This makes the recording process real fast because the blueprint is right there for everyone. Despite the DT album production going on, James was still able to go into the studio (in Canada) and knock these songs out. James' lead vocals took about two weeks btw.
Lyrically, it's appx 50/50. 14 Songs total (if you get the version with bonus tracks)
Can't wait! I'll buy the bonus edition whenever they pop up on Amazon.
From JLB's Twitter:
"First single 'Agony' streamed next Wednesday on UK's Metal Hammer site. Raaaaaaaaawk!!!"
Can't wait! I'll buy the bonus edition whenever they pop up on Amazon.
They already have. At least on amazon.de, not sure about the others.
Lyrically, it's appx 50/50. 14 Songs total (if you get the version with bonus tracks)
Can't wait! I'll buy the bonus edition whenever they pop up on Amazon.
They already have. At least on amazon.de, not sure about the others.
I haven't seen it on amazon.com, i keep looking.
*Edit: Ok found it. No mention if it's deluxe or not.
There are two versions on .de, one is labelled as limited edition.
The first track "Agony" from the new James LaBrie album will make its debut this Wednesday via Metal Hammer UK. Stay tuned!! RAAAWWK
\o/
Or it's Wednesday already in Labrieland - finally something positive about these cursed time zones.
Or it's Wednesday already in Labrieland - finally something positive about these cursed time zones.
It's actually 6:00 in Labrieland :D
(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/forumavatars/avatar_3297_1359762177.png)Or it's Wednesday already in Labrieland - finally something positive about these cursed time zones.
It's actually 6:00 in Labrieland :D
The best of times.
"We'll reveal a first track off the new album "Impermanent Resonance" today! Watch this space for more info later today!"
From JLB's Facebook.
"We'll reveal a first track off the new album "Impermanent Resonance" today! Watch this space for more info later today!"
From JLB's Facebook.
(https://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00796/shane-warne_796353c.jpg)
Listening now.:metal
It's a good song, but at the moment I'd rate it below every song from Static Impulse.I'd actually rate it above all of them, with the possible exception of This Is War.
Very nice song, it's like all the parts of Static Impulse that I'm not actually tired of by now :P. Not that I didn't like Static Impulse - I just grew tired of it after a while. In any case, I'm certainly more excited for this album now.
It's a good song, but at the moment I'd rate it below every song from Static Impulse.I'd actually rate it above all of them, with the possible exception of This Is War.
Kind of floored in here, didn't expect that.
I like everything about the song aside from the growls :\ I'm thinking they might grow on me though.
I like everything about the song aside from the growls :\ I'm thinking they might grow on me though.
...Says the one with a Mikael Åkerfeldt avatar. :rollin
Sounds like Static Impulse, with a slightly more polished and arranged vibe, which is definitely not a bad thing.Yeah, I'd apply everything I wrote on Static Impulse on Agony too, which is also eerily similar to how Matt described the track in the press release :lol
That 2nd song, Undertow, must be killer like any other Undertow (PoS, Tool, Chroma Key) :biggrin:Why yes, songs named Undertow are usually good songs :lol
Judging my Matt's comments, I'm really curious to know how involved JLB is with these albums. It sounds like the band write and record everything, and then just send James to add his vocals. Which is cool, not really what you expect for a "solo" record, but I guess if that kind of arrangement doesn't make anyone in the band feel devalued, then who cares?
Cool! Thanks for the candid answer. I always kinda assumed that, and from what I remember, James has recently always emphasized how it's really a band effort.Judging my Matt's comments, I'm really curious to know how involved JLB is with these albums. It sounds like the band write and record everything, and then just send James to add his vocals. Which is cool, not really what you expect for a "solo" record, but I guess if that kind of arrangement doesn't make anyone in the band feel devalued, then who cares?
The whole "solo" label is something we've been dealing with since EOP. It's quite understandable that there might be some confusion about it. Despite them being marketed as a James LaBrie "solo" records, the truth of the matter is that they're really not. This is just as much my record as it is James'. James has a "marquee" name and his history as being the frontman for DT is used to promote the music. That's not to say that James isn't part of the creative process. He definitely is. (He mainly contribute lyrics). Just want to clear that up. :)
That 2nd song, Undertow, must be killer like any other Undertow (PoS, Tool, Chroma Key) :biggrin:Why yes, songs named Undertow are usually good songs :lol
I can remember inties dating back to EoP explaining that. It's a relatively weird situation but it's perfectly understandable.Cool! Thanks for the candid answer. I always kinda assumed that, and from what I remember, James has recently always emphasized how it's really a band effort.Judging my Matt's comments, I'm really curious to know how involved JLB is with these albums. It sounds like the band write and record everything, and then just send James to add his vocals. Which is cool, not really what you expect for a "solo" record, but I guess if that kind of arrangement doesn't make anyone in the band feel devalued, then who cares?
The whole "solo" label is something we've been dealing with since EOP. It's quite understandable that there might be some confusion about it. Despite them being marketed as a James LaBrie "solo" records, the truth of the matter is that they're really not. This is just as much my record as it is James'. James has a "marquee" name and his history as being the frontman for DT is used to promote the music. That's not to say that James isn't part of the creative process. He definitely is. (He mainly contribute lyrics). Just want to clear that up. :)
Well, not too crazy about Wildoer dominating the verses again, but musically it's pretty awesome.Likewise - I didn't dig how Static Impulse started with Wildoer vocals, and it looks like they've gone for the same thing again, but I think it works so much better here than it did last time round. I second the motion that this song blows SI out of the water, and SI was no slouch. It's like they've perfected it.
Also, love the ending... "Yeeeeahhh..."
Interesting. Mainly lyrics. Huh.Kinda confirms what I always thought, honestly. I remember learning about JLB's solo work around the same time I saw Romavarium, where James shows off his toy keyboard with stickers on which keys he needed to hit, and thinking "that dude writes music?" :biggrin: :biggrin:
This is quality stuff, it should (but won't) be more mainstream. God I hope they tour.
This is fucking amazing.
The first thing I love is chorus vocal melody.
Loving this song. Reminds me of Soilwork. :metal
Does anyone else not like LaBrie's solo efforts? :/ I love LaBrie and his singing, but the music sounds no different whatsoever to any other generic power metal band to me.
Yes the drums in the intro yes deeper growls in verses yes THAT CHORUS yes those solos HOLY FUCK MATT GREAT JOB ON THAT SOLO yes the breathy bridge eeeeeeeeeeeeeh
It's like Static Impulse but twice as good.
YES! FUCK JLB records without growls! Great job, Pete! :metalYou might wanna rephrase that. ;) ;D
Yeah, I mean, both of the Mullmuzzler records are hot, and EoP has its charms, but they are all underage :xbonesYES! FUCK JLB records without growls! Great job, Pete! :metalYou might wanna rephrase that. ;) ;D
But what the Mullmuzzler albums do that the others fail to do is showcase James' amazing vocal abilities.
This is fucking amazing.
The first thing I love is chorus vocal melody.
This. I love hearing refreshing vocal melody lines. That creative ascension on the latter part of the chorus is pretty sweet! :metal
Does anyone else not like LaBrie's solo efforts? :/ I love LaBrie and his singing, but the music sounds no different whatsoever to any other generic power metal band to me.
Does anyone else not like LaBrie's solo efforts? :/ I love LaBrie and his singing, but the music sounds no different whatsoever to any other generic power metal band to me.
I don't know if I'd call it power metal, but after the first two Mullmuzzler albums, there is a genericness to it. Especially EOP. Static Impulse was OK, but when I get a James Labrie album, I expect him to be going nuts vocally. You know, generic isn't the word I'd use. I'd probably go with safe.
Agony is a pretty good song. Easily as strong as anything on SI. Still the screamo/growly vocals add nothing to me. To my ears, it simply undercuts the song totally. Adding growls turns it into James answer to AMob.
Hopefully, as with SI, the screams are basically only on the couple songs they released before the album came out. I am looking forward to this album, as I do expect it to be better than SI, and Agony is definitely cool.
Yup, not counting KM, I'm the biggest fan of James' side projects.Does anyone else not like LaBrie's solo efforts? :/ I love LaBrie and his singing, but the music sounds no different whatsoever to any other generic power metal band to me.
I like JLB's solo stuff better than any other side project the members of DT have been involved in, and better than some DT albums. Not having heard the new one, I rank them:
Elements of Persuasion
Static Impulse
Mullmuzzler 2
Mullmuzzler
That 2nd song, Undertow, must be killer like any other Undertow (PoS, Tool, Chroma Key) :biggrin:Why yes, songs named Undertow are usually good songs :lol
You missed one- Warrant's Undertow from Ultraphobic :biggrin:
That 2nd song, Undertow, must be killer like any other Undertow (PoS, Tool, Chroma Key) :biggrin:Why yes, songs named Undertow are usually good songs :lol
You missed one- Warrant's Undertow from Ultraphobic :biggrin:
Thanks - I thought I was the only one on the planet who's heard that album. It's great. :tup
edit: double post ftw!
YES! FUCK JLB records without growls! Great job, Pete! :metalYou might wanna rephrase that. ;) ;D
Is there a link to buy this? Maybe I missed it. I hope they do a bundle package with a t-shirt.
What will be the difference between the regular CD and the limited edition?
What will be the difference between the regular CD and the limited edition?
Limited edition digipak has expanded artwork and 2 bonus tracks.
*Goes to see if iTunes has it for download*There's a link for free download in the video description :)
...
*Doesn't even have album listed*
Grr. I'm loving this and want to listen on the way to work but...eh. I'll hafta wait.
*Goes to see if iTunes has it for download*There's a link for free download in the video description :)
...
*Doesn't even have album listed*
Grr. I'm loving this and want to listen on the way to work but...eh. I'll hafta wait.
Finally listened to Agony and I love it. I don't think its anything groundbreaking, but a really solid song. The chorus is really amazing. Its what I like about the screams. It really makes JLB sound even better. It goes from really harsh to something so powerful and beautiful. I love it.You know, Cram, you are right.
Finally listened to Agony and I love it. I don't think its anything groundbreaking, but a really solid song. The chorus is really amazing. Its what I like about the screams. It really makes JLB sound even better. It goes from really harsh to something so powerful and beautiful. I love it.You know, Cram, you are right.
I've been listening to Static Impulse all week and have been really enjoying it. Moreso than the first time around.
Finally listened to Agony and I love it. I don't think its anything groundbreaking, but a really solid song. The chorus is really amazing. Its what I like about the screams. It really makes JLB sound even better. It goes from really harsh to something so powerful and beautiful. I love it.You know, Cram, you are right.
I've been listening to Static Impulse all week and have been really enjoying it. Moreso than the first time around.
Awesome, Static Impulse has that same feel. I was never a big fan of screams, still not a big fan, but I totally get it with this band. James is such a powerfull singer that when you get a verse filled with screams, when it finally hits that chorus, James just explodes and it blows my mind. I feel like if he was singing all along, that explosion of awesomeness wouldnt be there.
I've pretty much always hated it, partly because most bands who use it do nothing else vocally. It's a one trick pony without dynamics or anything interestingno :facepalm:
Finally listened to Agony and I love it. I don't think its anything groundbreaking, but a really solid song. The chorus is really amazing. Its what I like about the screams. It really makes JLB sound even better. It goes from really harsh to something so powerful and beautiful. I love it.
Heard Agony and August 6th won't get here soon enough. :tup
It's the equivalent of the pretty girl who stands next to another pretty girl, and then they start kissing. :biggrin:
There will be another track released in a little over two weeks from now.Fuck yes! :metal :metal
Cheers,
Matt
There will be another track released in a little over two weeks from now.
There will be another track released in a little over two weeks from now.:metal
Cheers,
Matt
There will be another track released in a little over two weeks from now.Wow, that's just epic. Can't wait, thanks!
Cheers,
Matt
There will be another track released in a little over two weeks from now.
Cheers,
Matt
Hnnnng I want it.
Is the new song going to be available on iTunes soon?
There will be another track released in a little over two weeks from now.
Cheers,
Matt
Huzzah.
Have this waiting for me when I get home. I know a lot of you are excited about this album and so I promise to get off my lazy ass as much as possible in order to finish my Queensryche review and move onto this album. :)
Wow. That webpage is probably the first and last time I'll ever hear something related to JLB referred to as "swag".Yeah, that was terrible.
#yolo
#yolo
I died a little inside.
Gotta say... This thread is entertaining! :)
I just wanted to give everyone a heads up that another press release will come out tomorrow (July 2nd) at 5pm (CET) along with a video. Stay tuned...
Cheers,
Matt
I just wanted to give everyone a heads up that another press release will come out tomorrow (July 2nd) at 5pm (CET) along with a video. Stay tuned...
Gotta say... This thread is entertaining! :)FUCK YES I WILL :metal
I just wanted to give everyone a heads up that another press release will come out tomorrow (July 2nd) at 5pm (CET) along with a video. Stay tuned...
Cheers,
Matt
I just wanted to give everyone a heads up that another press release will come out tomorrow (July 2nd) at 5pm (CET) along with a video. Stay tuned...Another press release - a tour, perhaps? I know there would be no European dates, but it would still be great if you guys found enough time for live shows.
Cheers,
Matt
I know there would be no European dates
Can't come out soon enough!
I just saw that it is released in Europe on 29. July. That's one day after my birthday and therefore a very fitting (if a day late) present ;D
Regarding the different editions of the album, if I want the one with the bonus tracks, is the only way I can obtain it by getting the european import or will it be available domestically as well?
Maybe Matt can answer it.
Matt, thanks for all the great info. You can't imagine how cool it is to actually have someone from the JLB band on this forum keeping us up to date :tup
It is fantastic, and having Peter around last time was just as amazing. If the trend continues maybe in 2 or 3 more albums the Pirate himself will show up! :yarr
Matt, I hope you don't mind, but given recent developments I've given you an avatar. :D
I... must... have bonus tracks. I will import if I must! :hat
This thread is reaching new heights of awesomeness.
:lol Awesome!Matt, I hope you don't mind, but given recent developments I've given you an avatar. :D
Ha! Well how about that? I'm cool like Peter now! ;) Woo hoo! :metal
Regarding the different editions of the album, if I want the one with the bonus tracks, is the only way I can obtain it by getting the european import or will it be available domestically as well?
Maybe Matt can answer it.
As far as I know, yes (you would have to get it as a European import). I will check with our label rep to confirm though. Can't wait for you all to hear this stuff.
Cheers,
Matt
It is fantastic, and having Peter around last time was just as amazing. If the trend continues maybe in 2 or 3 more albums the Pirate himself will show up! :yarr
I'm back, hahaha! :metal
Great reading here! It's been a long time but I've tried to catch up a bit reading through quite a lot here.
Very cool that so many of you seems to be very excited for the new JLB album. Personally I think it's even better than Static Impulse much because of Matt's and Wichers absolutely phenomenal song writing. I promise you guys that the album has a wide variety of songs and there will be something for everyone. :tup
Also, thanks for the positive reactions on my video!! :hefdaddy
Cheers,
Peter
Oh gosh, now I can't blatantly fangirl in this thread like I used to (did - hi OSIers) :blush
(I just know some smartass is gonna come over and quote all my " :heart :heart :heart :heart :heart" posts under this. Come on, hit me with your best shot)
Get your visas in order, gentlemen.
:biggrin:This thread is reaching new heights of awesomeness.
Matt, I didn't REALLY mean to steal your phone :rollinOf course you didn't... ;D
Matt, I hope you don't mind, but given recent developments I've given you an avatar. :D
Ha! Well how about that? I'm cool like Peter now! ;) Woo hoo! :metal
Oh gosh, now I can't blatantly fangirl in this thread like I used to (did - hi OSIers) :blush
(I just know some smartass is gonna come over and quote all my " :heart :heart :heart :heart :heart" posts under this. Come on, hit me with your best shot)
I wouldn't put much into that if it thought SI only had a few good songs. We already know IR has one good song.
I wouldn't put much into that if it thought SI only had a few good songs. We already know IR has one good song.
Well I thought SI only had a few good songs too, but this reviewer is going beyond simply giving a negative review. Maybe JLB's F# broke the windows on his favourite Hot Wheels car as a child or something.
(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/forumavatars/avatar_7076_1364592449.jpeg)Oh gosh, now I can't blatantly fangirl in this thread like I used to (did - hi OSIers) :blush
(I just know some smartass is gonna come over and quote all my " :heart :heart :heart :heart :heart" posts under this. Come on, hit me with your best shot)
No worries, hahaha! Much love right back at you.
(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/forumavatars/avatar_7076_1364592449.jpeg)Oh gosh, now I can't blatantly fangirl in this thread like I used to (did - hi OSIers) :blush
(I just know some smartass is gonna come over and quote all my " :heart :heart :heart :heart :heart" posts under this. Come on, hit me with your best shot)
No worries, hahaha! Much love right back at you.
As someone who's been reviewing for a serious zine herself for two years now - don't put faith into reviews, guys. The only things you can learn from them are facts, after filtering them from tastes and opinions, and a lot of reviewers skip fact-giving and go straight to impressions first. Or state opinions as facts, which is just misleading. Static Impulse pun unintended.
(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/forumavatars/avatar_7076_1364592449.jpeg)Oh gosh, now I can't blatantly fangirl in this thread like I used to (did - hi OSIers) :blush
(I just know some smartass is gonna come over and quote all my " :heart :heart :heart :heart :heart" posts under this. Come on, hit me with your best shot)
No worries, hahaha! Much love right back at you.
As someone who's been reviewing for a serious zine herself for two years now - don't put faith into reviews, guys. The only things you can learn from them are facts, after filtering them from tastes and opinions, and a lot of reviewers skip fact-giving and go straight to impressions first. Or state opinions as facts, which is just misleading. Static Impulse pun unintended.
Luckily I don't place any importance in music reviews at all (or reviews for most forms of media), except for facts, not opinions.
While my review is still in progress, and I don't want to give any details ahead of time, I will say that this particular guy doesn't know wtf he's talking about.
While my review is still in progress, and I don't want to give any details ahead of time, I will say that this particular guy doesn't know wtf he's talking about.
And you do ? :P
While my review is still in progress, and I don't want to give any details ahead of time, I will say that this particular guy doesn't know wtf he's talking about.
And you do ? :P
Yes, of course. :p
While I understand what you're saying, when it comes to music, aside from the basics, exactly what is really fact? One of the glorious bits about music is how subjective and individual it is.
While I understand what you're saying, when it comes to music, aside from the basics, exactly what is really fact? One of the glorious bits about music is how subjective and individual it is.
I essentially am talking about basics here, since the quality of music does come 100% down to opinion.
I'm just talking about stuff like a particular guest musician, or if you told me a song had a 20 minute banjo solo, or that it includes JLB screaming high A5s for an entire song. Stuff that may affect my interest in the music, but can be described objectively, and not reliant on opinions such as "this is their best song in the history of ever", which would mean nothing to me coming from someone else. A lot of this is stuff that would be known before reviews anyway.
But I agree with you.
Well, I think there is certainly a good point in reviews. You simply have to take a consensus from sources you trust to get a better feeling of how you will likely feel. Random reviews here and there won't always be good, but with the sample size and reliability increasing they certainly do become better indicators.Yeah, definitely - I wouldn't be doing that if I thought it were pointless! I always like finding people who dedicate the necessary time to approach a release from several angles, put the album in context of either the genre or the rest of the artist's discography, make some necessary comparisons, have a way with words and are insightful enough to predict which people to recommend/not recommend the release too, but in the same time don't go for sensationalism nor take themselves *too* seriously. I like learning from those people. But in the same time, I try to listen to an album and form my own opinion first, then read the reviews, to see if I accidentally missed out on something someone else liked.
While I understand what you're saying, when it comes to music, aside from the basics, exactly what is really fact? One of the glorious bits about music is how subjective and individual it is.
I essentially am talking about basics here, since the quality of music does come 100% down to opinion.
I'm just talking about stuff like a particular guest musician, or if you told me a song had a 20 minute banjo solo, or that it includes JLB screaming high A5s for an entire song. Stuff that may affect my interest in the music, but can be described objectively, and not reliant on opinions such as "this is their best song in the history of ever", which would mean nothing to me coming from someone else. A lot of this is stuff that would be known before reviews anyway.
But I agree with you.
Got ya.
So would this be a good or bad time to tell you about the 20 minute didgeridoo solo? Well, it's actually several shorter didgeridoo solos just lumped together on the album, but you get the idea.
Well, I think there is certainly a good point in reviews. You simply have to take a consensus from sources you trust to get a better feeling of how you will likely feel. Random reviews here and there won't always be good, but with the sample size and reliability increasing they certainly do become better indicators.Yeah, definitely - I wouldn't be doing that if I thought it were pointless! I always like finding people who dedicate the necessary time to approach a release from several angles, put the album in context of either the genre or the rest of the artist's discography, make some necessary comparisons, have a way with words and are insightful enough to predict which people to recommend/not recommend the release too, but in the same time don't go for sensationalism nor take themselves *too* seriously. I like learning from those people. But in the same time, I try to listen to an album and form my own opinion first, then read the reviews, to see if I accidentally missed out on something someone else liked.
In his Static Impulse review the same guy said Coming Home has "straight references" to Space-Dye Vest, so I wouldn't listen to what he says :lolHe also gave Steven Wilson's Raven five stars out of ten... ::)
Well, that sounds about right. ;DIn his Static Impulse review the same guy said Coming Home has "straight references" to Space-Dye Vest, so I wouldn't listen to what he says :lolHe also gave Steven Wilson's Raven five stars out of ten... ::)
Wow. Knowing this, I won't even read the review, even if I would've been able to understand Finnish.In his Static Impulse review the same guy said Coming Home has "straight references" to Space-Dye Vest, so I wouldn't listen to what he says :lolHe also gave Steven Wilson's Raven five stars out of ten... ::)
album samples: https://www.amazon.com/Impermanent-Resonance/dp/B00DS2GBJG/ref=sr_shvl_album_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1373194646&sr=301-3 (https://www.amazon.com/Impermanent-Resonance/dp/B00DS2GBJG/ref=sr_shvl_album_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1373194646&sr=301-3)
Exactly what I expected, and I like these very much.
I have no complaints against commercial and lighter, as long as it's good, and this seems like it will be :metalExactly what I expected, and I like these very much.
yeah, it sounds amazingly solid and from these samples, perhaps more commercial and a bit lighter yet different from SI.
Back on the Ground and Lost in the Fire sound particularly awesome.Those two stood out to me as well!
They all sounded about equally good to me, although Slight of Hand jumped out at me.That's the one that stood out most to me, aswell. Lost in the Fire and Destined To Burn also sounded pretty good. My hype level for this album: increased. :metal
Samples sound like Static Impulse, but even more radical - the JLB/"quiet" sections sound a LOT more like either Elements of Persuasion at times or Mullmuzzler 2 at others, and and harsh Wildoer-driven sections sound a lot heavier than some of his sections in SI.I'm still sitting here listening to these samples, and had the same thought a while ago myself. I keep getting the impression that this album contains a combination of a lot of elements (nugget) from both EoP and SI.
Also, is anyone else getting flashbacks listening to these synths? They're very 90's techno/eurodance inspired...in a good way :lol. Modern metal infused with retro electronica. Fuck.
Modern metal infused with retro electronica. Fuck.I knooooow I'm just getting into electronic elements in music and now I want them EVERYWHERE. I want them in my coffee for fuck sake.
Exactly what I expected, and I like these very much.
One question for Matt: are the lyrics split near 50/50 between you and James on this album too, or...?
Exactly what I expected, and I like these very much.
yeah, it sounds amazingly solid and from these samples, perhaps more commercial and a bit lighter yet different from SI.
Love I Got You and Back on the Ground. And I Will Not Break = Crucify 2 :metal :metal :metal
This. And yes, those synths are awesome. Peter's vocals are amazing as well. Man, judging by these samples, this is going to be even better than SI. Amazing!Samples sound like Static Impulse, but even more radical - the JLB/"quiet" sections sound a LOT more like either Elements of Persuasion at times or Mullmuzzler 2 at others, and and harsh Wildoer-driven sections sound a lot heavier than some of his sections in SI.I'm still sitting here listening to these samples, and had the same thought a while ago myself. I keep getting the impression that this album contains a combination of a lot of elements (nugget) from both EoP and SI.
Also, is anyone else getting flashbacks listening to these synths? They're very 90's techno/eurodance inspired...in a good way :lol. Modern metal infused with retro electronica. Fuck.
Great review! Really looking forward to this! :metal :metal
While I’m still baffled why such a high profile track would start with vocals from someone other than LaBrie,I'm sure this has been covered before, but it's because this isn't really a solo album, it's a band effort that basically uses JLB's name because it gets attention and so gets the music out there to a bigger audience.
While I’m still baffled why such a high profile track would start with vocals from someone other than LaBrie,I'm sure this has been covered before, but it's because this isn't really a solo album, it's a band effort that basically uses JLB's name because it gets attention and so gets the music out there to a bigger audience.
While I’m still baffled why such a high profile track would start with vocals from someone other than LaBrie,I'm sure this has been covered before, but it's because this isn't really a solo album, it's a band effort that basically uses JLB's name because it gets attention and so gets the music out there to a bigger audience.
I know the reasoning behind it, but most don't, and even knowing the reasoning I still find it to be a baffling decision.
NOTE: What is below is an UNEDITED review. It can be a few days in editing and I wanted to get this out to you guys, so before I post in the review section or on my site I figured you guys could get a taste awhile. There are probably spelling, grammar, and readability errors.
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Impermanent Resonance
These are calmer times. However things weren’t that way the last time James LaBrie, best known as the lead singer for prog-metal icons Dream Theater released a solo album. In 2010, only a few weeks before the release of Static Impulse the founding drummer of Dream Theater left the band, shaking the foundations of the fan base and the genre. Since then James and Dream Theater have renewed their success both in the studio and on the road, and through it all a new studio album has found its way to the surface.
Impermanent Resonance will certainly draw a few comparisons to the aforementioned Static Impulse, however there is certainly evolution here, and not an AC/DC style carbon copy of previous albums. One fantastic example of this is in the harsh vocals of drummer Peter Wildoer on the two albums. On Static Impulse his vocals were a surprise to many and very much jumped out of the music at times. The new album should do a good job of pleasing those who enjoy the harsher vocals, while being less alienating to those who don’t. While the amount they are used on the two albums is comparable, they are lower in the mix and used in a less jarring manner, especially after the first two tracks. The album’s first track and lead single “Agony” features a vocal tradeoff between LaBrie and Wildoer during the verses, starting with Wildoer. While I’m still baffled why such a high profile track would start with vocals from someone other than LaBrie, it is a fast and energetic kick start to the album with excellent soloing from guitarist Marco Sfogli that gives a good indication of what to expect from the heavier selections going forward.
The next track, “Undertow” and continues to showcase the heavier elements of the album, while seeming to tradeoff a bit of bite from the last album for a more polished final product. And while I’m sure prog fans especially will debate the usefulness of Wildoer’s vocals up to this point, I don’t think anyone will question that he continues to bring his A game behind the kit. The heavier the section of the song and the more impressive the Swedish sensation sounds. The fourth track, “Back on the Ground” has a structure and beautiful vocal melodies of a power ballad, but one that, at times, goes on steroids and turns up the power aspect to 11. In a perfect world I think a track like this could see significant radio airplay.
“I Got You” is a straight forward rocker with a strong and melodic chorus that features a variety of electronic elements in the background that have been noticeable since 2005’s Elements of Persuasion album, though they are again more refined and less obvious on this track and album. Much of the same can be said of the next track, “Holding On” with the addition of another fantastic guitar solo from Sfogli. The next few tracks take their foot of the gas a tad, focusing on LaBrie’s vocals, especially on “Destined to Burn” during which many long time fans will enjoy the soaring vocals, most notably on the chorus.
“Say You’re Not Mine” starts out with piano and soft, warm vocals from LaBrie, reminiscent of “Coming Home” from LaBrie’s last album, and it a welcomed break in style from the rest of the album till that point. However unlike “Coming Home” the track picks up, leaving the album lacking any true softer ballads. The following track, “Amnesia” is similarly structured, with softer sections which really contrast well against the chorus that manages to end with harsh vocals from Wildoer that don’t seem at all out of place.
The final track on the album, “I Will Not Break” returns fully to the sound at the start of the album with its aggressive start, especially in the drums. And for those in Europe, or who can get their hands on the European release of the album will be treated to two bonus tracks. The first of which, “Unraveling”, treats the listener to a softer sound, especially in the first half of the song, that will serve as a nice counterpoint to what came before it. Finally “Why” ensures that no matter which version of the album you get it will end by leaving your blood boiling for more.
While LaBrie’s fantastic vocals, Wildoer’s drumming, and Sfogli’s excellent guitar work, both lead and solo all help make this album what it is, the standout star if keyboardist Matt Guillory. Not because the keyboard work itself is anything overly complex or groundbreaking, but simply because as the primary composer it was his work that made this album work. Wildoer’s vocals were better incorporated into the music and the keyboards were a perfect example of how to add texture and an extra gear to what is primarily a guitar driven metal album. While the polish of this album does make it a slightly tamer to the ears compared to Static Impulse, it does serve to help draw out and highlight the many memorable melodic moments of the album. Picking favorite tracks is difficult, but for the right reason, as much of the album rises to a very high level.
Fans of LaBrie as a vocalist will not be disappointed in this album, nor will those who have been fans of the other two LaBrie releases. Where fans rank the album will likely be determined by preference in style. Whereas Elements of Persuasion was put electronic elements in the forefront, and Static Impulse highlighted punch and aggression this album blends everything together well with perhaps the best guitar work throughout it all to date.
Nick’s Rating: A
While I’m still baffled why such a high profile track would start with vocals from someone other than LaBrie,I'm sure this has been covered before, but it's because this isn't really a solo album, it's a band effort that basically uses JLB's name because it gets attention and so gets the music out there to a bigger audience.
Exactly what I expected, and I like these very much.
yeah, it sounds amazingly solid and from these samples, perhaps more commercial and a bit lighter yet different from SI.
Love I Got You and Back on the Ground. And I Will Not Break = Crucify 2 :metal :metal :metal
Cool! Btw... I was actually considering using Back On The Ground for my solo record. So glad it ended up on IR because James tore it up! :metal
I'm listening to some of James LaBrie's solo material. Can anyone recommend me some of his quiet/ballad type songs? Thanks in advance.
I'm listening to some of James LaBrie's solo material. Can anyone recommend me some of his quiet/ballad type songs? Thanks in advance.
I'm listening to some of James LaBrie's solo material. Can anyone recommend me some of his quiet/ballad type songs? Thanks in advance.
I'm listening to some of James LaBrie's solo material. Can anyone recommend me some of his quiet/ballad type songs? Thanks in advance.
Lost. It's one of the most unique and amazing songs he has ever done.
I'm thinking of doing a James Labrie survivor in the next couple of weeks. Just wondering how much interest I would get. I would cover;
Keep It To Yourself
Mullmuzzler 2
Elements of Persuasion
Static Impulse
Impermanent Resonance
By the time we get to IR it would have been released for a few weeks so we all have time to digest and vote.
What do we think?
I'm thinking of doing a James Labrie survivor in the next couple of weeks. Just wondering how much interest I would get. I would cover;
Keep It To Yourself
Mullmuzzler 2
Elements of Persuasion
Static Impulse
Impermanent Resonance
By the time we get to IR it would have been released for a few weeks so we all have time to digest and vote.
What do we think?
I haven't heard the firsttwothree, but I'd be down for the rest.
[REVIEW]
To ones who don't listen the first two James albums fail so bad. Such strong vocal efforts there. Give it a listen.Great stuff there.
Nice thorough review Nick. I love reviews where the tracks are reviewed!
Still i think that these "A, 10/10" ratings are a bit too much.
U bashed that Imperiumi reviewer for giving almost the worst review possible.
And then u come and give a solid A.
If your rating would have been something like B+ to A- , I would have believed it.
But I always skip reviews with "too high" or "too low" score.
To ones who don't listen the first two James albums fail so bad. Such strong vocal efforts there. Give it a listen.
So great reading that many of you enjoy the samples of IR! Thanks a lot Nick for the great review. Kind of the same way I feel about this album, a bot more balanced and focused on the songs. Hope you all will enjoy the full album when it's out! :metal
Cheers!
Peter
Wolf, trust me it will be well worth the wait. Like I said before - better than SI.
Wolf, trust me it will be well worth the wait. Like I said before - better than SI.
A friend of mine who listened to the album for review purposes also said it is better than SI, so i am very excited to hear the album.
Howdy folks. Just a heads up. Another new James LaBrie tune will up on YouTube next Tuesday, July 16th. (One of my personal favorites!)
Cheers,
Matt
We need more people with Lego avatars in this thread. For example:Not to scare James off, but that would cause chaos and mayhem; if there's a thing DTF really loves (well, overall; some people don't even listen to DT anymore on these boards), it's James LaBrie :biggrin:
(https://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y280/bosk1/cjs_zpsde8ff3cb.png)
*hint, hint*
Matt? Peter? Any chance of getting James here, even if it's just for a fly-by "arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr"?
I would sell my soul to bring James to this forum.
I would sell my soul to bring James to this forum.
I'll have to buy it back first....
On the other hand, the whole site could crash from too much awesomeness...Yeah, this thread would go absolutely fucking nuts.
I think the band (or at least some members) are aware of this forum, but it would be phnomenal if Matt got James to join here ;D On the other hand, the whole site could crash from too much awesomeness...We know JP is, and JLB has hinted at it a few times, or at least DTF took those as hints :biggrin: (I remember something-or-other hinties on Twitter somewhere two years ago, when DTF stalked the locations of the studio to find out who the new drummer is - I retroactively read that thread and it's brilliant :lol).
This is their biggest fan site, of course they are all aware of it. Its just a matter of whether they visit .... or even post :eek
Not sure about JM. I think the only things I have ever said to him are: "Would...would you please sign this?" and "Yes, sir. [multiple times, because that's what you say when John Myung speaks]"I just love it how even grown-ass men are completely starstruck when in contact with John Myung :lol
For those in the US wondering where to get the version of Impermanent Resonance with the bonus tracks domestically, I'm still waiting to hear back from the label. I'll keep you posted. Stay tuned...
Cheers,
Matt
Good review Mason, but;Did Wichers even produce SI?
Peter Wichers’ production is a large reason why this album sounds so good. While LaBrie, Guillory, and Sfogli have been together for all three James LaBrie albums, Wichers made Static Impulse sound like a Wichers album, which is a large reason why some of the fan base felt alienated.
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No, he didn't.Good review Mason, but;Did Wichers even produce SI?
Peter Wichers’ production is a large reason why this album sounds so good. While LaBrie, Guillory, and Sfogli have been together for all three James LaBrie albums, Wichers made Static Impulse sound like a Wichers album, which is a large reason why some of the fan base felt alienated.
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No, he didn't.Good review Mason, but;Did Wichers even produce SI?
Peter Wichers’ production is a large reason why this album sounds so good. While LaBrie, Guillory, and Sfogli have been together for all three James LaBrie albums, Wichers made Static Impulse sound like a Wichers album, which is a large reason why some of the fan base felt alienated.
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To be honest though, that chorus. Like I couldnt help but visualize a bunch of backup dancers waving around "magic wands" behind James in some sort of Miley Cyrus-esque performance. It was almost Radio Disney-level lyrics too. Just..... yuck yuck yuck. Pretty ridiculous. And Back On The Ground, with that American metalcore breakdown riffing..... :tdwn
I dont mean to be bashing too hard, especially when I'm only judging a 30 second sample. But what I heard didn't strike me at all quite like Agony did. It's only a matter of time before we evaluate the full tracks though, and maybe my first impressions will be wrong. And this does indeed all boil down to personal preference anyway. I really loved Static Impulse but im just not getting quite the same good vibes with these new samples. Time will tell.
Pre-ordered.
in my experience, Amazon, while good with in stock items, isn't always the best with pre-orders
Damn, i've been listening to the itunes samples again, really need this album in my life!
Damn, i've been listening to the itunes samples again, really need this album in my life!Same. :metal :metal
If you're a normal Amazon customer, you'll get the album a day or three after release, if you're a prime member you'll get it on release day or the day before.
If you're a normal Amazon customer, you'll get the album a day or three after release, if you're a prime member you'll get it on release day or the day before.
I'm a normal customer and I always got them on release day :huh:
Dammit Matt, now I have $400 worth of stuff in my CMDistro cart, and I'm not even done looking :lol
Time to start pruning and crying...
Just given the album a spin :omg:So you'll be the third DTFer to review the album! :D Who's next?
Typing out the intro of my review as we speak........
Then Milena and maybe someone else after that :lolI'll have to arm-wrestle for mine, since there's another girl over at Metal Storm who adores JLB's solo albums, but that's half the fun :D provided I get back into writing by then :sad:
We'll post another new track from "Impermanent Resonance" today at 18:00 CET / 09:00 AM PST!I see what they did there!
In the meantime, you can listen to "Agony" one more time:)
:lol I know
I'd say RJ :laugh:
RJ Dunn... here's the deal... you will review the new DT....but this one is mine....
Just given the album a spin :omg:
Typing out the intro of my review as we speak........
Hey, a deal's a deal babe....:laugh: ;) :-*Quote from: obscureRJ Dunn... here's the deal... you will review the new DT....but this one is mine....
have you ever considered writing for a music mag? there are perks :biggrin:
have you ever considered writing for a music mag? there are perks :biggrin:Getting paid for listening to albums and writing about them would be awesome :D
hit me up
have you ever considered writing for a music mag? there are perks :biggrin:
Peter is giving me goosebumps............... damn.... :o
Wow, you're right, when you listen to Peter drum, you can totally hear he has gorgeous hair :P
Shouldn't the new song be available now?
Shouldn't the new song be available now?
No. Matt said 1800 CET. I don't think it's even close to 1800 yet in central Ecuador. We've still got a bit to wait.
James LaBrie - Back On The GroundWoohoo!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ralb05GOLjA&feature
Music and lyrics by yours truly! ;)
James LaBrie - Back On The GroundFuck yeah, thanks Matt! :metal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ralb05GOLjA&feature
Music and lyrics by yours truly! ;)
James sounds excellent.Yeah, this has to be one of his best vocal performances in a long time!
Peter is giving me goosebumps............... damn.... :o
Yeah, but we all know how you are. He has gorgeous hair and is a musician in a metal band. Of course he's going to give you goosebumps. :lol
Didn't enjoy this one as much as Agony, although I still didn't mind it at all. Could be a grower :tupSame here. Loved the melody but the silly lyrics stood out for me and I usually don't mind that (I absolutely love Jupiter Island and Linton Samuel Dawson for instance, from PT) but they were kind of in the foreground and it will take a while to just enjoy the song without actually listening to what's being said.
But I hope JLB's vocals on the DT album are as good as this, because they're great here.
James LaBrie - Back On The Ground
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ralb05GOLjA&feature
Music and lyrics by yours truly! ;)
There are not really any weak tracks, and the trio of “Agony”, “Back On the Ground”, and “Lost In the Fire” I would initially call my three favorite tracks, and a good indicator of the variety on the album.
I got the song right!!! Yusssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss....:hefdaddy
Didn't enjoy this one as much as Agony, although I still didn't mind it at all. Could be a grower :tupSame here. Loved the melody but the silly lyrics stood out for me and I usually don't mind that (I absolutely love Jupiter Island and Linton Samuel Dawson for instance, from PT) but they were kind of in the foreground and it will take a while to just enjoy the song without actually listening to what's being said.
But I hope JLB's vocals on the DT album are as good as this, because they're great here.
I don't mind such songs being on the album though, definitely didn't expect something like that. Variety is nice. James sounds fantastic.
:biggrin:I got the song right!!! Yusssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss....:hefdaddy
I got the song right!!! Yusssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss....Peter is giving me goosebumps............... damn.... :o
Yeah, but we all know how you are. He has gorgeous hair and is a musician in a metal band. Of course he's going to give you goosebumps. :lol
your analysis is spot on... hard to figure out the reason of my obsession about you though... something...... about..... y....
damn... where is that gif when you need it.....
James LaBrie - Back On The Ground
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ralb05GOLjA&feature
Music and lyrics by yours truly! ;)
Where's what I thought of this song as of last week:Quote from: Dr. DTVTThere are not really any weak tracks, and the trio of “Agony”, “Back On the Ground”, and “Lost In the Fire” I would initially call my three favorite tracks, and a good indicator of the variety on the album.
Nailed it!
The fourth track, “Back on the Ground” has a structure and beautiful vocal melodies of a power ballad, but one that, at times, goes on steroids and turns up the power aspect to 11. In a perfect world I think a track like this could see significant radio airplay.
James LaBrie - Back On The Ground
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ralb05GOLjA&feature
Music and lyrics by yours truly! ;)
Where's what I thought of this song as of last week:Quote from: Dr. DTVTThere are not really any weak tracks, and the trio of “Agony”, “Back On the Ground”, and “Lost In the Fire” I would initially call my three favorite tracks, and a good indicator of the variety on the album.
Nailed it!QuoteThe fourth track, “Back on the Ground” has a structure and beautiful vocal melodies of a power ballad, but one that, at times, goes on steroids and turns up the power aspect to 11. In a perfect world I think a track like this could see significant radio airplay.
Hey, you're not the only one that saw this one coming as a single. :D
Really fantastic choice, and one that I really hope helps move the album Matt.
I think I will listen to this song less than 'Agony'
Am I the only one who cannot listen to it right now? I'm at work :(
Am I the only one who cannot listen to it right now? I'm at work :(
Same here, all streaming sites are blocked.
Where are people hearing samples? I didn't see them on iTunes.
The longer Itunes samples are up: https://itunes.apple.com/au/album/impermanent-resonance/id669067749 (https://itunes.apple.com/au/album/impermanent-resonance/id669067749)
Love the new song! Great stuff. I gotta say, if JLB isn't writing the music then I personally feel like he should be writing ALL of the album's lyrics at least, since the project is in his name. If he's not doing that, the project shouldn't be called "James LaBrie." It should have another name. Just my opinion.
Seems James has been listening to Amaranthe!
Seems James has been listening to Amaranthe!
Love the new song! Great stuff. I gotta say, if JLB isn't writing the music then I personally feel like he should be writing ALL of the album's lyrics at least, since the project is in his name. If he's not doing that, the project shouldn't be called "James LaBrie." It should have another name. Just my opinion.
"James LaBrie" is just the name of the band that has James LaBrie as a singer. They could have called it "The James LaBrie Band", or, if it were still the 80s/90s, just "LaBrie".
Ozzy Osbourne doesn't do much, if any, writing on his albums, but they all sound like "Ozzy Osbourne records".
It's worth noting that the iTunes samples are only longer (1:30) if you play them in iTunes. On the webpage they're only the regular 30 second clips. I actually think that might be why there wasn't much discussion about them at all after I posted the link.The longer Itunes samples are up: https://itunes.apple.com/au/album/impermanent-resonance/id669067749 (https://itunes.apple.com/au/album/impermanent-resonance/id669067749)Here it is!
It's worth noting that the iTunes samples are only longer (1:30) if you play them in iTunes. On the webpage they're only the regular 30 second clips. I actually think that might be why there wasn't much discussion about them at all after I posted the link.The longer Itunes samples are up: https://itunes.apple.com/au/album/impermanent-resonance/id669067749 (https://itunes.apple.com/au/album/impermanent-resonance/id669067749)Here it is!
People excited about the album that don't have iTunes will probably want to install it for at least one listen of these extended clips. They are 100x better than the 30 second clips. You have no idea. Definitely worth the couple of minutes to install iTunes and then uninstall.
Nope, not even this is worth raping my system with iTunes for. :lolThis. I hate iTunes :biggrin:
I'm just going to wait it out now. 30 second clips were enough to get me very interested, so I'm just going to hold out until I get the full album, and listen to it fresh. :tup
I'll join this camp.Nope, not even this is worth raping my system with iTunes for. :lolThis. I hate iTunes :biggrin:
I'm just going to wait it out now. 30 second clips were enough to get me very interested, so I'm just going to hold out until I get the full album, and listen to it fresh. :tup
Me too!I'll join this camp.Nope, not even this is worth raping my system with iTunes for. :lolThis. I hate iTunes :biggrin:
I'm just going to wait it out now. 30 second clips were enough to get me very interested, so I'm just going to hold out until I get the full album, and listen to it fresh. :tup
OMG Back On The Ground is soooo catchy!!! It has great radio potential!! I hope it will be aired at least sometimes =)
Not as excited about this song as I was about Agony, but still can't wait for this album to come out.
Unfortunately it wont be.
I'm digging this new song more than Agony. This is what I was expecting from the new JLB record, a simple-yet-catchy tune reminiscent of the Mullmuzzler 2/Elements of Persuassion days. As a keyboardist, I'm extremely influenced by Matt's use of electronic sounds in metal and I couldn't agree more that JLB hasn't sounded so modern ever. Not because of the synth-y elements, but the approach JLB took into signing the tune and how incredible it blends with Matt's harmonies. I don't think Mike Portnoy's or even John Petrucci's voice had such a nice cohesion with James LaBrie's voice, and it's incredible to see this happen now. Great job, Matt. I can't wait to hear the whole thing.
@Piratecjs 42s
Thanks for digging Back On The Ground. Great feedback, and just to clear things up both Matt and I write all the lyrics. BOTG are Matt's.
I know Youtube is Youtube but a lot of the comments were about the simple lyrics.
No matter what, people will always find something to complain about. (e.g., screams, too melodic, too simple, too catchy...) The bottom line is this: You cannot please everybody. Once you try to do that, it's a very slippery slope. We make the music we want to make. Period.Yep, that is what real artist do. I really admire that, man, keep up with the good work. :tup
it actually took more work than most of the tunes - especially when it came to the vocals. Glad you dig it! :)
I know Youtube is Youtube but a lot of the comments were about the simple lyrics.
No matter what, people will always find something to complain about. (e.g., screams, too melodic, too simple, too catchy...) The bottom line is this: You cannot please everybody. Once you try to do that, it's a very slippery slope. We make the music we want to make. Period.
And in this case, these lyrics (simple or not) are completely relevant to me - and have a deep personal meaning behind them. As far as I'm concerned, that's all that matters. :)
Cheers,
Matt
I know Youtube is Youtube but a lot of the comments were about the simple lyrics.
No matter what, people will always find something to complain about. (e.g., screams, too melodic, too simple, too catchy...) The bottom line is this: You cannot please everybody. Once you try to do that, it's a very slippery slope. We make the music we want to make. Period.
And in this case, these lyrics (simple or not) are completely relevant to me - and have a deep personal meaning behind them. As far as I'm concerned, that's all that matters. :)
Cheers,
Matt
I know Youtube is Youtube but a lot of the comments were about the simple lyrics.
Indeed. People just love to be cunts on Youtube.
My brother just spent months making a CGI video for the new Serj Tankian & Devin Townsend song for Revolution Harmony.
One comment : " Shit Song. Shit Message. Shit Video. "
Brilliant. Go buy yourself a copy of after effects and a £1,000 video camera and two iMac computers and a complete green screen kit and see how well you do.
Well, tell him from me that it rocked. I was hoping for more Devin in the song itself, though. (not that your brother had any control over that, I imagine)
I agree.I know Youtube is Youtube but a lot of the comments were about the simple lyrics.
How it works is one person posts a comment. Then other simpletons simply say the same thing to agree because it is easier to agree with a previous statement than make your own.
Not everything has to have seven layers...unless you are talking about seven layer dip, then it better damn well have seven layers.
No matter what, people will always find something to complain about. (e.g., screams, too melodic, too simple, too catchy...) The bottom line is this: You cannot please everybody. Once you try to do that, it's a very slippery slope. We make the music we want to make. Period.
And in this case, these lyrics (simple or not) are completely relevant to me - and have a deep personal meaning behind them. As far as I'm concerned, that's all that matters. :)
Cheers,
Matt
No matter what, people will always find something to complain about. (e.g., screams, too melodic, too simple, too catchy...) The bottom line is this: You cannot please everybody. Once you try to do that, it's a very slippery slope. We make the music we want to make. Period.
And in this case, these lyrics (simple or not) are completely relevant to me - and have a deep personal meaning behind them. As far as I'm concerned, that's all that matters. :)
Cheers,
Matt
Great post, Matt :tup
Plus... My review will be up soon...
Back on The Ground is way better than Euphoric. I love Euphoric so it says a lot. Its the perfect catchiness to the lyrics and overall feel.To be honest, I think Euphoric is the weakest song on SI and I don't like the lyrics at all. I love BOTG though, and the lyrics are cool. As long as the lyrics are relevant for the writer, then it's ok; not all lyrics need to be cryptic and shit.
Great job Matt
Back on The Ground is way better than Euphoric. I love Euphoric so it says a lot. Its the perfect catchiness to the lyrics and overall feel.To be honest, I think Euphoric is the weakest song on SI and I don't like the lyrics at all. I love BOTG though, and the lyrics are cool. As long as the lyrics are relevant for the writer, then it's ok; not all lyrics need to be cryptic and shit.
Great job Matt
Of course, that's obvious. But BOTG, IMO, delivers a message, while Euphoric is generally just a simple love song lyrically wise. And IMO, there are WAY too much songs with that kind of lyrics.Back on The Ground is way better than Euphoric. I love Euphoric so it says a lot. Its the perfect catchiness to the lyrics and overall feel.To be honest, I think Euphoric is the weakest song on SI and I don't like the lyrics at all. I love BOTG though, and the lyrics are cool. As long as the lyrics are relevant for the writer, then it's ok; not all lyrics need to be cryptic and shit.
Great job Matt
Euphoric has the same non cryptic lyrics.
Awesome review boss ;):hug:
Awesome review boss ;):hug:
Thanks dear .. I loved your new forum title :DAwesome review boss ;):hug:
Yes, very nice :)
Thanks dear .. I loved your new forum title :DAwesome review boss ;):hug:
Yes, very nice :)
Thanks dear .. I loved your new forum title :DAwesome review boss ;):hug:
Yes, very nice :)
Ahh, just noticed that. That's awesome!!!!
I don't know if we have a general (Solo + Side Project) Labrie discussionThis is it, this is the one, we also talked Mullmuzzler stuff in here :laugh:
I know I'm beginning to sound like a broken record...*finds something new for Matt to talk about* :angel:
I think I remember James saying that the growls were something he wanted to do. I think he said he was doing Peter's lines in a more harsher way, but eventually made the decision that if they were going to do it, they might as well do it right.Yeah, I know that, I just meant that it's a pretty big leap between rougher vocals and full blown death metal vocals, so I was just wandering how'd it come to that. I'm a big fan of harsher vocs on JLB records :tup
Just wanted to be sure, is this ( https://www.cmdistro.com/Item/James_LaBrie_-_Impermanent_Resonance_-Digi-_-PRE-ORDER-/46064 ) the digipak with all the bonus tracks? don't really have the dough for an import version, so i wanted to make sure theres a US version with as much LaBrie as possible :metal
my review (https://www.ladyobscure.com/albums/james-labrie-impermanent-resonance/)
I don't know if we have a general (Solo + Side Project) Labrie discussionThis is it, this is the one, we also talked Mullmuzzler stuff in here :laugh:I know I'm beginning to sound like a broken record...*finds something new for Matt to talk about* :angel:
One thing that always interested me in the whole story - well, two things:
1) the huge gap between the second Mullmuzzler record and EoP makes me wonder which was the first song written for Elements, and how did you guys "find" each other again - was it a matter of not losing contact and occasionally talking about doing another record, or was it a "omg let's do another record" somewhere a year or so before it came out.
2) During the writing for Static Impulse, how did it exactly go from "let's make it heavier with some harsher vocals in there" to "let's find someone who can do screams and growls, make it REALLY METAL"?
Bonus question: on the DT side of the forum some people were reminiscing about how Elements was was labelled as Octavarium on some illegal sharing sites to mess with people, and how people totally believed that, so I guess the question is - how does it feel like to be mistaken for Jordan Rudess :laugh:
Hey Matt, I'm going to warn you in advance that this is a weird question, but how do you pronounce your last name? For some reason it baffles me.
Wow, that's pretty interesting! Gosh I can imagine how terrifying playing in front of Jordan is :lol I remember reading some post-EoP interview that mentioned you were planning on another album pretty soon but obviously that didn't happen. Still, Static Impulse has become one of my favorite albums so it's good everything turned out exactly the way it did.I don't know if we have a general (Solo + Side Project) Labrie discussionThis is it, this is the one, we also talked Mullmuzzler stuff in here :laugh:I know I'm beginning to sound like a broken record...*finds something new for Matt to talk about* :angel:
One thing that always interested me in the whole story - well, two things:
1) the huge gap between the second Mullmuzzler record and EoP makes me wonder which was the first song written for Elements, and how did you guys "find" each other again - was it a matter of not losing contact and occasionally talking about doing another record, or was it a "omg let's do another record" somewhere a year or so before it came out.
2) During the writing for Static Impulse, how did it exactly go from "let's make it heavier with some harsher vocals in there" to "let's find someone who can do screams and growls, make it REALLY METAL"?
Bonus question: on the DT side of the forum some people were reminiscing about how Elements was was labelled as Octavarium on some illegal sharing sites to mess with people, and how people totally believed that, so I guess the question is - how does it feel like to be mistaken for Jordan Rudess :laugh:
RE: Question 1 - "Slightly Out Of Reach" was the first song written for EoP. Throughout our 15 year history of working together, James and I have always remained in contact. We knew would wanted to make another album after MM2. The big gap in between MM2 and EoP was only because we were both so busy with other commitments. If memory serves me correctly, we started working on EoP in 2003. Seems like it took *forever* to get that album done! Another thing worth mentioning is that we had another full album worth of material we were going to record as a follow-up to EoP, (in 2006) but those songs eventually were shelved.
RE: Question 2 - To be honest, I actually wanted to have screaming on EoP, but the material (imo) wasn't really calling for it. It didn't really make sense. The back story is this.... Mike (Mangini) was working on the drums for Static Impulse but because of the timing and logistics involved, we had to seek another drummer for Static Impulse. Fortunately, Peter Wildoer was recommended to me through a mutual friend of ours, Teddy Möller. By that time, I had already written a significant amount of material for Static Impulse, and I knew the songs really needed some screaming and after discussing the material with Peter, I asked him if he could recommend any screamers. He was like, "Well, Bjorn Strid is a very good friend of mine. I could ask him. Or, if you're interested, I could do it!" I had no idea that Peter could do screams, AND do them well! He sent me some songs with him screaming and I was floored. I passed it along to James and he was floored as well, so it was on! That's how the whole screaming thing came about.
RE: Bonus Q - LOL I have to say, being mistaken for Jordan is much more pleasant than having to play in front of him! Our very first show of the EoP tour, Jordan came out to see us and I have NEVER been *so* nervous in my life. Talk about pressure! I wanted to go to a dark corner of the venue and crawl into the fetal position. LOL Seriously though, aside from being a monster player, Jordan is such a sweetheart and he has always been so kind to me over the years. I don't think I sound like him at all, but I consider any comparison to him a HUGE compliment! :)
Cheers,
Matt
Thanks, Matt! :DHey Matt, I'm going to warn you in advance that this is a weird question, but how do you pronounce your last name? For some reason it baffles me.
Gill (hard G, rhymes with hill) or-ee
Gill-or-ee
You could have just listened to one of many inties where James pronounces it with surgical precision :DThanks, Matt! :DHey Matt, I'm going to warn you in advance that this is a weird question, but how do you pronounce your last name? For some reason it baffles me.
Gill (hard G, rhymes with hill) or-ee
Gill-or-ee
I know it's weird, but it's bugging me forever! :lol
Yeah, but that would have made sense, therefore I avoided that route.It's okay, we still love you. :heart
actually I never thought of that...
Matt, I've never heard your name said, and have wondered myself. Thank you SN2.0 for asking!Speaking of pictures, I love that one photosession with almost matching sneakers :biggrin:
And I always thought you looked like a long-haired Stephen Baldwin in this SI picture.
(https://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQIMMoy49HqVMVK1uBXD1LywsgmMm89LTotfh4s7PBj04Bf9gxn)
Matt, I don't remember what I had going that day that I couldn't make it, but I still hate myself for missing that first or second show in NJ. Have many people I know that went and all said many good things, and I wish I could have been there.
Since Matt is here to answer questions, I got one for him.
What are the chances of a tour?
I was really pumped for the SI show that was going to be in Raleigh Thanksgiving weekend when that album came out since three hours is about as close as I can reasonally expect to get for any band, then it had to get scrubbed. With a new DT album about to drop, it seems like the timing isn't going to be there this time. Please tell me I'm reading the tea leaves wrong, this yankee in rural SC needs to rock out. Also, make sure any tour hits Raleigh or Charlotte on a weekend. Or you can come play at my college if that works for you ;) Just be warned, that no one here knows why I love my parking permit that is number 2112...that's the kind of crowd you'd be working with.
Damn, I really, really love the keyboard in I Tried. :heart :heart :millahhhh :metal
Damn, I really, really love the keyboard in I Tried. :heart :heart :millahhhh :metalMe too, the whole song is probably my favorite on the album besides This is War :metal
I agree with both of you! :lol both the songs you each named are my favorites aside I Tried. This is getting me PUMPED for IR.
Although..if I'm honest, I think Over The Edge may have taken the spot of Just Watch Me. That FURRGIN CHORUS! It's so POWER.
Since Matt is here to answer questions, I got one for him.
What are the chances of a tour?
I was really pumped for the SI show that was going to be in Raleigh Thanksgiving weekend when that album came out since three hours is about as close as I can reasonally expect to get for any band, then it had to get scrubbed. With a new DT album about to drop, it seems like the timing isn't going to be there this time. Please tell me I'm reading the tea leaves wrong, this yankee in rural SC needs to rock out. Also, make sure any tour hits Raleigh or Charlotte on a weekend. Or you can come play at my college if that works for you ;) Just be warned, that no one here knows why I love my parking permit that is number 2112...that's the kind of crowd you'd be working with.
This question has understandably been asked quite a bit in the recent interviews James and I have been doing.
We all were REALLY bummed when the SI tour fell through. The reality is that it takes a lot of time and planning/logistics to set up a tour properly. With Dream Theater releasing a new album in September and those guys gearing up for a promo campaign in the next few weeks, and then touring to support it... it makes it really tough for us to go out do a proper tour in the near future. With that said, I think it's fair to say it's inevitable that we will tour at some point. Let's face it. We're ALL fired up to play this stuff live. Realistically, we don't see this happening until the DT machine winds down and that would be after their touring is done.
Cheers,
Matt
Okay lucien, this is the JAMES LABRIE IMPERMANENT RESONANCE thread, keep Dream Theater to Dream Theater topics pleeeeaaaasssseeee. And I'm sure Matt can't really go into that anyways.
Whoa whoa whoa, there was more material written around the time of EoP?!?!?!?!?
What do we have to do to bribe you to let us hear some of it?
There will also be two limited 180gr. vinyl editions: a black version and a white version. Both versions will include a bonus CD with the full album and the bonus tracks featured on the European Digipak edition.
Whoa whoa whoa, there was more material written around the time of EoP?!?!?!?!?Probably nothing :lol
What do we have to do to bribe you to let us hear some of it?
Dammit, 2 more weeks before I can get the album: https://www.recordshopx.com/artist/labrie_james/impermanent_resonance/ :-\Yesterday it wasn't there, I checked :D
Going to order along with the new DT today! :metal :metal
Going to order along with the new DT today! :metal :metal
That should be quite an impressive feat since the pre-order for the new DT is not available yet.
Going to order along with the new DT today! :metal :metal
That should be quite an impressive feat since the pre-order for the new DT is not available yet.
Going to order along with the new DT today! :metal :metal
That should be quite an impressive feat since the pre-order for the new DT is not available yet.
So it's legit?
I just mean, if I go ahead and pre-order it, will everything be peachy, or will it get screwed up down the road?
I just mean, if I go ahead and pre-order it, will everything be peachy, or will it get screwed up down the road?
I'm going to get this thread back on track.
You all have to wait two more weeks to enjoy this album. I don't. Nanny-nanny-poo-poo stick your head in doo-doo :P
Going to order along with the new DT today! :metal :metal
That should be quite an impressive feat since the pre-order for the new DT is not available yet.
That's not completely truth..... I'm as suprised, but this site gives me the option to preorder JL-IR and DT-DT...
https://www.large.nl/search/dream%20theater/
It's funny, while you Euros are going bonkers over the album I basically won't even listen to it for two weeks. With review done I sit and wait for the 6th and the real deal.
So wait, Europe gets it early AND with bonus tracks?
Lame. I'm not gonna buy the US version of this album, if that's the case. >:(
I would like to ask a question that could be interpreted as an insulting prog-snob remark, but it's not intended that way. I just want to discuss it meaningfully.There is definitely some progressive elements on the album, but I would say it's closer to to Heavy Metal than it is to Progressive Metal or Power Metal.
What genre is this album? After listening to it once, it doesn't sound like "Progressive Metal" to me. I consider Static impulse as "Progressive Metal" and Elements of Persuasion as "Heavy Metal". This appears to be very close to "Power Metal".
How about: metal.
Honestly that's the only level of definition I find relevant, and even then it's not necessary.
Just got this from iTunes.
Initial impression, an incredibly solid album. Undertow was completely amazing. Still, won't rank as high as EoP but nonetheless, this is super strong. My JLB rankings go like this:
1) Elements of Persuassion
2) Impermanent Resonance
3) Mullmuzzler 2
4) Static Impulse
5) Keep it to Yourself
Could somebody list what lyrics are written by who?
Could somebody list what lyrics are written by who?
i would categorize it as POP METAL but it doesn't matter really but it just goes to show that if melodic metal bands decided to make POP music without heavy guitars and stuff they would blow the current pop stars out of the water. I mean the melodies on Impermanent resonance are SICK, in a good way ofcourse
i would categorize it as POP METAL but it doesn't matter really but it just goes to show that if melodic metal bands decided to make POP music without heavy guitars and stuff they would blow the current pop stars out of the water. I mean the melodies on Impermanent resonance are SICK, in a good way ofcourse
I don't really like to put ourselves in a box, but if hard-pressed... I'd agree. Our music is rooted in metal, but there is VERY prominent pop sensibility to it - especially in the vocal melodies and song structures. And thanks for the compliments on the melodies! I spent more time on those than anything else. Always great to hear nice feedback like that!
Cheers,
Matt
It's Pirate Metal, obviously. Hosers.
I never get caught up in putting things into a genre. I have friends that have categorized their itunes or cd collection by genre instead of alphabetical and it drives me nuts because there is no clear definition. For instance, I consider Black Sabbath the premiere metal band but they have always considered themselves hard rock. Some people thing Iron Butterfly was the first heavy metal band and its true to an extent, they first incorporated the term heavy into their music but the vast majority of their catalog is not heavy nor metal and is actually pretty poppy. I got Volbeat's latest album recently and my girlfriend was like, "Is this metal?!" I had never listened to them and only got their album because King Diamond does guest vocals and I was dumbfounded. A few of their tracks were clearly metal. A few were almost straight up pop/punk. A few more were almost southern rock.
So I'm not trying to shit on anyones definitions because we all have our own and all that matters is whether we like the music. Just trying to vocalize how much I hate labels.
But yeah, I would say this album from what I have heard is metal with pop elements ;)
i would categorize it as POP METAL but it doesn't matter really but it just goes to show that if melodic metal bands decided to make POP music without heavy guitars and stuff they would blow the current pop stars out of the water. I mean the melodies on Impermanent resonance are SICK, in a good way ofcourse
I don't really like to put ourselves in a box, but if hard-pressed... I'd agree. Our music is rooted in metal, but there is VERY prominent pop sensibility to it - especially in the vocal melodies and song structures. And thanks for the compliments on the melodies! I spent more time on those than anything else. Always great to hear nice feedback like that!
Cheers,
Matt
It's Pirate Metal, obviously. Hosers.:lol :tup
i would categorize it as POP METAL but it doesn't matter really but it just goes to show that if melodic metal bands decided to make POP music without heavy guitars and stuff they would blow the current pop stars out of the water. I mean the melodies on Impermanent resonance are SICK, in a good way ofcourse
I think you're being slightly unfair on certain pop artists - there are quite a few out there who are very talented and write excellent songs and melodies.
Having said that, I agree that the vocal melodies on IR are generally very, very good.
i would categorize it as POP METAL but it doesn't matter really but it just goes to show that if melodic metal bands decided to make POP music without heavy guitars and stuff they would blow the current pop stars out of the water. I mean the melodies on Impermanent resonance are SICK, in a good way ofcourse
This guy speaks the truth.
The import version is listed on Amazon for $49.22 why exactly?
Heck, on Amazon Canada, regular, non-import versions of albums are like that half the time. :PThe import version is listed on Amazon for $49.22 why exactly?
Import version of CDs on amazon always score the most unlikely prices :lol
I Got You is just too damn catchy.
I'm particularly passionate about Lost In The Fire right now, but the record is young, my preferences are still quite changable.
Anyway, great job guys, another great great record. :tup
I'm just waiting for Amazon to ship mine
Hey guys. I've decided it's finally time for me to start exploring James Labrie's solo stuff, and I'm wondering where the best place to start would be. I know this thread is more about the new album right now, and I don't mean to interrupt that, but, real quick, any recommendations? Would it be best to start with Elements of Persuasion?
Been through the album about five times now and it's a fucking trip every time. I love this album. Top three are easily (in order): Amnesia, Holding On, I Will Not Break. I Got You, Agony, and Letting Go are close. The songs I love, I'm addicted to, and the songs I 'merely' really like are kind of being ignored because I love the aforementioned ones so god damn much. iTunes says I have listened to Amnesia 35 times in the last 30-something hours. So much :metal :millahhhh :metal :yarr :millahhhh :heart
I Got You is just too damn catchy.
I'm just waiting for Amazon to ship mine
Me too.. but I wonder why Amazon does not have the deluxe edition?
>:( :censored :censoredI'm just waiting for Amazon to ship mine
Me too.. but I wonder why Amazon does not have the deluxe edition?
As far as I know it's only available in Europe.
Towards the end of the album it started to feel samey and I really longed for a couple heavier tracks
Towards the end of the album it started to feel samey and I really longed for a couple heavier tracks
Honestly, after a couple of listens, I feel the same way.
Towards the end of the album it started to feel samey and I really longed for a couple heavier tracks
Honestly, after a couple of listens, I feel the same way.
that's what happens with "pop metal" and that's why we, as a remedy listen to progressive music most of the time and occasionally revel in this lighter more easily accessible and not analitically demanding music :D
Towards the end of the album it started to feel samey and I really longed for a couple heavier tracks
Honestly, after a couple of listens, I feel the same way.
that's what happens with "pop metal" and that's why we, as a remedy listen to progressive music most of the time and occasionally revel in this lighter more easily accessible and not analitically demanding music :D
I don't think that's really the reason. I listen to quite a lot music that can be considered simple or "poppy", both inside and outside of the metal genre, and I generally don't have any problems with that music keeping its fascination over time. I still enjoy IR a lot, but I honestly don't think I'll be listening to the album on a regular basis for the next months, unlike some other releases this year. Unfortunately :'(
I pretty much have a different song or two from this album stuck in my head each day. Holding On, Letting Go and Say You're Still Mine are probably the ones this happens with more often. This album though, like the previous ones released as JLB, is incredibly consistent. There's really no one or two songs that just sit a level above or below the rest.This is what I just came in to the thread to say :lol Just keep getting certain lines or riffs from songs in my head - even from Back on the Ground - which I wasn't too keen on when I first heard it, but has now grown on me.
Man, they need to put up an official stream or something. This is not fair :P
Man, they need to put up an official stream or something. This is not fair :P
? I listened to it on Spotify this morning.
Man, they need to put up an official stream or something. This is not fair :P
My bad, I didn't realize it was out in NA yet. I thought that wasn't until next week?
Anyway, I did listen in Spotify. It's a good record.
Y'know, MM/James LaBrie really need more notoriety. Listening to this record, it is no Static Impulse. It's a whole new animal. In fact, if you go back and think of the band's discography since the Mullmuzzler days, there aren't that many metal bands which have consistently developed their sound since the beginning like this band have. Every album is different - and I daresay better - than the last.
I thought he meant MullMuzzler.Yup!
Great post Dan!! :tup
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:welcome:
By the way, I just ordered the clear vinyl!! :metal Does anybody know how many they have made these?
The site where I ordered says 200 but I can't believe it's so rare.
I've been trying to find the album on iTunes, but apparently it's not available through them? WTF? I was interested in keeping my collection going, but from what I've heard of the two songs released early, and the fact that it's unavailable through my main source of music, I guess I'm fucked. So... :tdwn
Yeah I just saw the release date for the states on Amazon. :facepalm: :loser:I've been trying to find the album on iTunes, but apparently it's not available through them? WTF? I was interested in keeping my collection going, but from what I've heard of the two songs released early, and the fact that it's unavailable through my main source of music, I guess I'm fucked. So... :tdwn
The album releases in the US on August 6th (next week), so the US iTunes store wouldn't have it up yet. The folks who have it already are probably outside the US. I'd expect it to be available on iTunes next Tuesday.
Very shitty album to say the least.
Very shitty album to say the least.What great constructive criticism :tup
Very shitty album to say the least.
Especially considering that two of the musicians appearing on the album have posted in this thread and may see that... ::)Very shitty album to say the least.What great constructive criticism :tup
Nothing interesting at all. The growl vocals are horrible, they ruin the songs even more. It seems like they downloaded a "Metal Album Generator" and made an album. 3-5 minutes songs with the SAME formula, refrain, refrain, refrain and a guitar solo. If people enjoy it, fine.. I don't. And don't get me wrong.. it is fine if you want to follow the same formula over and over again if you actually write good songs, which is not the case here and in his previous album. It seems to me it was recorded just for the sake of being recorded.Very shitty album to say the least.
Pourquoi?
Nothing interesting at all. The growl vocals are horrible, they ruin the songs even more. It seems like they downloaded a "Metal Album Generator" and made an album. 3-5 minutes songs with the SAME formula, refrain, refrain, refrain and a guitar solo. If people enjoy it, fine.. I don't. And don't get me wrong.. it is fine if you want to follow the same formula over and over again if you actually write good songs, which is not the case here and in his previous album. It seems to me it was recorded just for the sake of being recorded.Very shitty album to say the least.
Pourquoi?
I like the album, but it sounds like Soilwork, which isn't a bad thing in my book :biggrin:Nothing interesting at all. The growl vocals are horrible, they ruin the songs even more. It seems like they downloaded a "Metal Album Generator" and made an album. 3-5 minutes songs with the SAME formula, refrain, refrain, refrain and a guitar solo. If people enjoy it, fine.. I don't. And don't get me wrong.. it is fine if you want to follow the same formula over and over again if you actually write good songs, which is not the case here and in his previous album. It seems to me it was recorded just for the sake of being recorded.Very shitty album to say the least.
Pourquoi?
Puh-lease. What other albums out now sound like this?
Don't feed the trolls.Not trolling.. I am actually being sincere, but maybe I shouldn't have posted any opinion since everyone seems to like anything DT-related and the one who criticizes gets attacked. :)
Don't feed the trolls.Not trolling.. I am actually being sincere, but maybe I shouldn't have posted any opinion since everyone seems to like anything DT-related and the one who criticizes gets attacked. :)
Er, no, there is plenty of criticism here, but outright bashing is disrespectful and childish.Don't feed the trolls.Not trolling.. I am actually being sincere, but maybe I shouldn't have posted any opinion since everyone seems to like anything DT-related and the one who criticizes gets attacked. :)
Don't feed the trolls.Not trolling.. I am actually being sincere, but maybe I shouldn't have posted any opinion since everyone seems to like anything DT-related and the one who criticizes gets attacked. :)
Rhayader, that is simply not true. You can criticize anything DT-related, provided it is done constructively. Literally thousands of users on this site do criticize things related to DT without any problem. Again, it is all in how you say it. I gave you a friendly informal warning earlier in the thread, but yet you continue to simply bash the album rather than constructively voice your criticisms. So consider this a formal warning. If you have questions about how you should be posting, read the forum rules, and then PM either me or a mod. But if you continue posting the way you have, you will not be allowed to continue posting here.
Nothing interesting at all. The growl vocals are horrible, they ruin the songs even more. It seems like they downloaded a "Metal Album Generator" and made an album. 3-5 minutes songs with the SAME formula, refrain, refrain, refrain and a guitar solo. If people enjoy it, fine.. I don't. And don't get me wrong.. it is fine if you want to follow the same formula over and over again if you actually write good songs, which is not the case here and in his previous album. It seems to me it was recorded just for the sake of being recorded.
Rhayader, that is simply not true. You can criticize anything DT-related, provided it is done constructively. Literally thousands of users on this site do criticize things related to DT without any problem. Again, it is all in how you say it. I gave you a friendly informal warning earlier in the thread, but yet you continue to simply bash the album rather than constructively voice your criticisms. So consider this a formal warning. If you have questions about how you should be posting, read the forum rules, and then PM either me or a mod. But if you continue posting the way you have, you will not be allowed to continue posting here.
For what reason did I receive warning if I justified why I didn't like the album? Or is it against the rules not to like/criticize an album?I don't find this kind of criticism constructive:
Very shitty album to say the least.
If you ignored completely the post where I justified why, then yes.For what reason did I receive warning if I justified why I didn't like the album? Or is it against the rules not to like/criticize an album?I don't find this kind of criticism constructive:Very shitty album to say the least.
Rhayder, you said the album sounded like it came out of an Auto Metal Generator.Seriously? Most metal albums have the same formula. In this case it is more metalcore. I wouldn't know what albums sound like it, because I would delete them after I listen, but should be pretty easy to find some album in metalcore that sounds like it.
So, what other albums does this sound like? None, in my opinion. It's very unique.
Rhayder, you said the album sounded like it came out of an Auto Metal Generator.Seriously? Most metal albums have the same formula. In this case it is more metalcore. I wouldn't know what albums sound like it, because I would delete them after I listen, but should be pretty easy to find some album in metalcore that sounds like it.
So, what other albums does this sound like? None, in my opinion. It's very unique.
Rhayder, you said the album sounded like it came out of an Auto Metal Generator.Seriously? Most metal albums have the same formula. In this case it is more metalcore. I wouldn't know what albums sound like it, because I would delete them after I listen, but should be pretty easy to find some album in metalcore that sounds like it.
So, what other albums does this sound like? None, in my opinion. It's very unique.
I may end up downloading a few of the individual tracks from the Amazon MP3 store. "Back On The Ground" is pretty cool. If there are other tracks on the album like this (meaning, with no grunting) I'll buy them, but I just can't take that growling stuff. Sorry.
While I wouldn't put it quite as harshly as Rhayader, I have to say that I'm underwhelmed as well. This was my first exposure what JLB and Matt do together and it just didn't capture my interest enough. I enjoyed each track seperately, but taken as an album, it did become a little samey. Agony and Undertow are killer though. :metal
That said, I might come back to this to see if my opinion changes, because, on paper, I feel that I should like this a lot more than I do.
I may end up downloading a few of the individual tracks from the Amazon MP3 store. "Back On The Ground" is pretty cool. If there are other tracks on the album like this (meaning, with no grunting) I'll buy them, but I just can't take that growling stuff. Sorry.
Agony is actually the only song that features a significant amount of growling, so you might give the whole album a chance and if you can't stand Agony, just skip it.
https://www.bravewords.com/news/207916
Not sure if people have seen this interview but its really good and insightful.
I've got a question for Matt though.
This interview is the first time I have heard the band referred to as you being the main composer. It has usually been described as a 50/50 collaboration but James has been very open it seems to say that you are the main force behind this effort.
Also, you seem to have more lyrical contributions than James.
We all know that this isn't really a "solo" effort and a lot of the music is recorded without James present (he records vocal separately). So is James just a really easy going guy that doesn't mind you getting a little more credit? Or was it a matter of not being able to work out the logistics of getting together and writing since he was busy with Dream Theater?
Also, what was the dynamic like with Elements of Persuasion? I seem to remember the band recording together for the most part (I think Mangini may have recorded his drums seperately but I may be wrong about that).
Anyway, I still don't have the CD yet but that interview has made me more psyched. Argh, just one more week :(
SI inties were not so specific on writing so my brain just filled it in as the same writing dynamics as EoP/earlier, so this definitely cleared stuff up in my mind! I gotta say three things:
1) File under *not genre snobism/preference for distorted guitars in my music*: there's like 89385729 lessons for modern pop composers to be learned from the pop you guys do.
2) You're absolutely better at writing with James' voice in mind that anyone who's ever done that. Highlighting everything awesome about it in 3-4 minutes, then repeating it during each song on the album while ample space is left for other important stuff is not an easy balance to achieve.
3) Aaaaaaare you by chance going to sing on your solo album you've been mentioning? I recently introduced my ex-boyfriend to JLB-the-band (as in, a couple of weeks ago, after a few years of "you're totally gonna love this why aren't you checking it out already"), he's paid special attention to EoP and SI and recently he's asked me about "who sings the Jeckyl & Hyde demo" and then we both concluded the world needs to hear you sing lead in a more "officially official" capacity :lol
The new album is really, really catchy! On first listen I liked it quite a bit, but wasn't sure if it stood up to SI, and I thought maybe it got a bit samey by the end. But actually the more I listen to it, but more I don't agree with either of those initial impressions, and the more I get drawn back to it.
Matt, thanks for your latest post, definitely a really interesting insight to your recent writing approach, often focussing on vocals as a starting point. I really feel like that comes across with this album, some of the tunes are just fantastic!
Haters gonna hate.
That's very nice of you to say, but I think there are some very good and capable writers in DT :)DT is my favorite band, but that's just my opinion :biggrin:
Re 3: That's the plan. Hmmm maybe I'll get James to do backgrounds? LOL j/k!
Cheers,
Matt
That being said, it's weird to imagine James LaBrie singing background vocals :lolYoutube Fates Warning - Life In Still Water. You're welcome :mora:
That's very nice of you to say, but I think there are some very good and capable writers in DT :)DT is my favorite band, but that's just my opinion :biggrin:
Re 3: That's the plan. Hmmm maybe I'll get James to do backgrounds? LOL j/k!
Cheers,
Matt
LOL, if you can't get James to do backgrounds, get Peter to do some screams :xbonesThat being said, it's weird to imagine James LaBrie singing background vocals :lolYoutube Fates Warning - Life In Still Water. You're welcome :mora:
For what reason did I receive warning if I justified why I didn't like the album? Or is it against the rules not to like/criticize an album?
Very shitty album to say the least.
SI inties were not so specific on writing so my brain just filled it in as the same writing dynamics as EoP/earlier, so this definitely cleared stuff up in my mind! I gotta say three things:
1) File under *not genre snobism/preference for distorted guitars in my music*: there's like 89385729 lessons for modern pop composers to be learned from the pop you guys do.
2) You're absolutely better at writing with James' voice in mind that anyone who's ever done that. Highlighting everything awesome about it in 3-4 minutes, then repeating it during each song on the album while ample space is left for other important stuff is not an easy balance to achieve.
3) Aaaaaaare you by chance going to sing on your solo album you've been mentioning? I recently introduced my ex-boyfriend to JLB-the-band (as in, a couple of weeks ago, after a few years of "you're totally gonna love this why aren't you checking it out already"), he's paid special attention to EoP and SI and recently he's asked me about "who sings the Jeckyl & Hyde demo" and then we both concluded the world needs to hear you sing lead in a more "officially official" capacity :lol
Re 1: You're way too kind. Definitely the other way around! :) There is so much to be learned about modern pop songwriting and production. I will always be a student of it. I could go on and on for days talking about it because it's really where my heart is, but I'll spare you all. :) I will say this though... from my own personal experience, it's *WAY* more challenging for me to sit down and write something that's catchy/simplistic/memorable than anything that I would consider "progressive" or "technical." OMG it's crazy difficult! But that's why it's so appealing to me. (I'm only speaking for myself.)
Re 2: That's very nice of you to say, but I think there are some very good and capable writers in DT :) When I'm writing a song, I absolutely *have* to be able to sing it. If I'm not feeling it and it's not working for me first, then it's more than likely not going to work for James either.
Re 3: That's the plan. Hmmm maybe I'll get James to do backgrounds? LOL j/k!
Cheers,
Matt
You're an inspiration, Matt. Now that I remember, I saw some youtube videos of you singing some Static Impulse songs...that was amazing. Any plans for you releasing some more of these treats to your fans? It's great to hear you singing your stuff, your voice is great. I'd love to hear you going lead for once :D
Perhaps after Impermanent Resonance has been out for a bit, I could throw some demos up on my YouTube channel.
Cheers,
Matt
Perhaps after Impermanent Resonance has been out for a bit, I could throw some demos up on my YouTube channel.
Cheers,
Matt
:caffeine:
Hey, Matt.
I was wondering how you felt about potentially releasing some instrumental mixes or even just instrumental demos. I'd love to use your music for vocal training and such. And I know Dream Theater has been releasing Instrumental Mixes for the past couple of albums, and I thought it was a great thing to do on their part. So I was wondering if there were any chances of that happening with Static Impulse or Impermanent Resonance, through Digital Distribution or even just on Youtube?
Thanks!
I don't have any instrumental demos readily available. Most of the stuff was written on an older computer of mine that I have since "retired." It's quite possible that the label might do something like that though. I know they were planning on releasing some remixes of some of the SI songs and they needed the mix stems to do it.
Cheers,
Matt
I'm so addicted to "Holding On," it's ridiculous. I think I'm obsessed. This song is like a drug. For me, it's easily the best JLB solo song of all time. This album can't arrive soon enough. I've been listening to "Holding On" and a few others online, but am depriving myself of the rest.
I'm so addicted to "Holding On," it's ridiculous. I think I'm obsessed. This song is like a drug. For me, it's easily the best JLB solo song of all time. This album can't arrive soon enough. I've been listening to "Holding On" and a few others online, but am depriving myself of the rest.
James and I have done a crazy amount of interviews together over the past few weeks. For those of you who are interested, here is one we did for Rocking.gr.
https://www.rocking.gr/interviews/en/James-LaBrie-interview/16954/
Cheers,
Matt
Bonus track version just showed up in the maaaaaiiiiiiiilllllll! :metal
Ready to finally give this a listen. I've (by sheer laziness) avoided all the previews. I know not one note of this album!
Bonus track version just showed up in the maaaaaiiiiiiiilllllll! :metal
Ready to finally give this a listen. I've (by sheer laziness) avoided all the previews. I know not one note of this album!
Are you in the US and where specifically if you don't mind me asking. did you order through Century Media?
Edit: Your profile says Milwaukee. I'm in Iowa. Hopefully I get mine tomorrow. BTW, I almost always attend DT shows in Milwaukee which is a much more pleasant drive than the equidistant Chicago traffic madness.
Good writers in DT - deffo! But there's something in these solo discs, where James' voice really shines through. Which is absolutely appropriate, since it's his solo disc, so the voice is (quite rightly!) more of a centrepiece, but I'm in awe of James' voice on a regular basis on these solo albums. I think he's great in Dream Theater, too, but not so routinely incredible - the voice is part of the ensemble, rather than a focal point.2) You're absolutely better at writing with James' voice in mind that anyone who's ever done that. Highlighting everything awesome about it in 3-4 minutes, then repeating it during each song on the album while ample space is left for other important stuff is not an easy balance to achieve.Re 2: That's very nice of you to say, but I think there are some very good and capable writers in DT :) When I'm writing a song, I absolutely *have* to be able to sing it. If I'm not feeling it and it's not working for me first, then it's more than likely not going to work for James either.
Marco, listen to this intie, there's about 4 minutes of fanboying over Italy near the end :lol
Audio interview that James and I did for Metal Shock Finland.Also I'm glad Rob agrees with me, but seeing how people here first claimed I'm rob-level and then dubbed me robwebstress, it's not that much of a shock :lol
https://metalshockfinland.com/2013/08/02/audio-interview-james-labrie-and-matt-guillory-talk-impermanent-resonance/
-Matt
It's kind of a dumb question for Matt, but you and James did indeed personally sign the postcards that came with the digi-pack right? Like I said, bad question
My digipak didn't come with a postcard :sadpanda:
*Sits waiting quietly for my copy to arrive to be able to join the discussion* :mehlinThis. Though mine should come tomorrow.
Good writers in DT - deffo! But there's something in these solo discs, where James' voice really shines through. Which is absolutely appropriate, since it's his solo disc, so the voice is (quite rightly!) more of a centrepiece, but I'm in awe of James' voice on a regular basis on these solo albums. I think he's great in Dream Theater, too, but not so routinely incredible - the voice is part of the ensemble, rather than a focal point.2) You're absolutely better at writing with James' voice in mind that anyone who's ever done that. Highlighting everything awesome about it in 3-4 minutes, then repeating it during each song on the album while ample space is left for other important stuff is not an easy balance to achieve.Re 2: That's very nice of you to say, but I think there are some very good and capable writers in DT :) When I'm writing a song, I absolutely *have* to be able to sing it. If I'm not feeling it and it's not working for me first, then it's more than likely not going to work for James either.
I'd say that, in these albums, you can always tell James is a virtuoso. And I think that's something your band's better at showcasing than DT are - and, as lead songwriter, I reckon you have to take a lot of the credit for that.
Ok, so, I'm sort of addicted to this album. I just keep wanting to listen to it, it's just too damn catchy! Matt, what have you done to me?!
I hope Amazon doesn't screw up like they did with my last release, which came on Wednesday. They still are showing today as my anticipated release of this, but haven't shipped it yet. And while there is a distribution center 10 miles from me, I'm worried that won't matter if it only ships this morning.
I gotta look into if they owe me anything if the release comes tomorrow despite release day delivery selected...
I always pick the free shipping. :lol My copy ain't going to show up for a long time.
I hope Amazon doesn't screw up like they did with my last release, which came on Wednesday. They still are showing today as my anticipated release of this, but haven't shipped it yet. And while there is a distribution center 10 miles from me, I'm worried that won't matter if it only ships this morning.
I gotta look into if they owe me anything if the release comes tomorrow despite release day delivery selected...
I just got an email from Amazon saying I won't receive my copy until the 24th.
WTF
I'm not going to go into a rant but this really pisses me off. This is only the second album I've EVER preordered... (the first being Static Impulse which arrived several days early way back when...)
I just got an email from Amazon saying I won't receive my copy until the 24th.
WTF
I'm not going to go into a rant but this really pisses me off. This is only the second album I've EVER preordered... (the first being Static Impulse which arrived several days early way back when...)
Sorry to hear about the shipping issues some of you are having. :(
Cheers,
Matt
I have to say, although the price was stupidly high, I kinda like what Spock's Beard did with X. They had a pre-order through them a month or so before regular release, so the fans who pre-ordered through them where the very first to hear it. Not the people illegally downloading (or even the music press).
Hah, Tushar is a wonderful guy. Met him years back as he was in the US to visit family and attend Transatlantic. He always seems to do wonderful work.
Since you were being so awesome here Matt I didn't even bother this time around, but I hope come the next album you wouldn't mind an interview for my show, assuming Peter hasn't told you all sorts of horrible things about me!
I have to say, although the price was stupidly high, I kinda like what Spock's Beard did with X. They had a pre-order through them a month or so before regular release, so the fans who pre-ordered through them where the very first to hear it. Not the people illegally downloading (or even the music press).
That's a great idea actually :tup
But I seem to be one of the few people who never had problems with Amazon delivering in time :huh:
Just downloaded it earlier. Can't wait to check out the whole album tomorrow at work.
Man, I wish there was more tracks like Agony/I Will not Break in the album.
Having said that I also have to give props to Matt for the Bonus tracks. Why reminds me of something bands like Amaranthe would make, but a bit heavier and definitely better; and being more of a fan of this album's heavier tracks I also have to say I'm a sucker for power ballads and Unraveling is definitely how a power ballad is made. It's uplifting and pretty amazing.
Even our mastering engineer, Tony Lindgren was surprised because "Why" was his favorite track.
Is that from us amazon? Because that didn't seem like it would be ???
If it is though I'd rather get it there than through cmdistro, cause shipping.. Can anyone confirm if US amazon has the digipak version?
But was it the import version? Or just the standard 9.99 cd. Because reviews on amazon make it seem like it isn't the bonus track version. Just want to get as much JLB as possible :metalIs that from us amazon? Because that didn't seem like it would be ???
If it is though I'd rather get it there than through cmdistro, cause shipping.. Can anyone confirm if US amazon has the digipak version?
Yes US Amazon. I just got mine today.
But was it the import version? Or just the standard 9.99 cd. Because reviews on amazon make it seem like it isn't the bonus track version. Just want to get as much JLB as possible :metalIs that from us amazon? Because that didn't seem like it would be ???
If it is though I'd rather get it there than through cmdistro, cause shipping.. Can anyone confirm if US amazon has the digipak version?
Yes US Amazon. I just got mine today.
I thought the digipak was only available in Europe or as an import in the US (and everywhere else) :huh:
I experienced a pleasant surprise today: I had preordered the standard edition from a Finnish record store, but the digipak was also made available there after that, which pissed me off. However, when I got the package in the mail today I realized that it was the digipak and that truly made up for having to wait for so long :metalQuick, get some water!
I've listened to the album once and it's hard to name any standout tracks, but I can say I'm ImpRessed. The songs are really catchy, James sounds great and the whole band is on fire. Great job, guys! :tup
Amazon's a troll. It told me that it wasn't coming in for 2 weeks... then it was all "JK ITS CUMING 2MRW!!!! LOLOLOL"
I gotta say, it was really tough making the call to use those for the bonus tracks. Even our mastering engineer, Tony Lindgren was surprised because "Why" was his favorite track.
considering the bonus track digipack was the European edition, it sure seems to be available in a lot of US retailers :lol
I can understand why people don't like digipacks, but I've never really had a problem with them, so I don't really care which I get. Bonus tracks are usually more important to me than a more dependable case.
I personally consider Digipaks to be the more dependable cases. Some or other part of my jewel cases often cracks, and I can't stand those cracks. Never had any such problem with digipaks.I had that problem with some of my older jewel cases, when I used the CDs all the time before I started ripped everything to my computer. Or worse, one of the small pieces that the cover rotates on would snap off and the entire thing detaches. >:(
I had that problem with some of my older jewel cases, when I used the CDs all the time before I started ripped everything to my computer. Or worse, one of the small pieces that the cover rotates on would snap off and the entire thing detaches. >:(
Some jewel cases are made from thinner plastic and will break rather easily. But, the benefit of jewel is that you can take them apart and move everything into a new case. Can't do that with digipacks.
The digipack I got has a few mistakes in it. For example:
- the extra lines "I ain't broke. They can't break me. As I am, not one of them. More foe than friend. They're a joke" I don't think I heard that in I Will Not Breaks' chorus.
- The bonus tracks lyrics have errors. In Unraveling, the 2nd verse has an extra the, so it ends up saying "The The". And in Why, the 2nd "Drifting Apart" is missing an A.
Other than that the music is great. I would laugh if they gave us in the US the misprinted digipacks.
I had that problem with some of my older jewel cases, when I used the CDs all the time before I started ripped everything to my computer. Or worse, one of the small pieces that the cover rotates on would snap off and the entire thing detaches. >:(
Some jewel cases are made from thinner plastic and will break rather easily. But, the benefit of jewel is that you can take them apart and move everything into a new case. Can't do that with digipacks.
That is true, but the problem is that that means I'll have to sacrifice one of my other albums to take jewel case parts from it. Unfortunately, I don't see very many good quality blank jewel cases for sale, especially now.
I much prefer jewel cases for the reason that they're replaceable. I've never even broken a jewel case myself, but I've replaced a few, and the end result as as good as new, because everything is protected by the case. With a digipack, there's nothing you can do, and they're really flimsy imo.
I much prefer jewel cases for the reason that they're replaceable. I've never even broken a jewel case myself, but I've replaced a few, and the end result as as good as new, because everything is protected by the case. With a digipack, there's nothing you can do, and they're really flimsy imo.
I never found them to be flimsy. Pretty much all my digipaks are as good as new. I guess I just take care of my CDs. But when they're stacked one on top of another, the jewel cases are prone to cracking.
But assuming in either case it does get damaged, at least jewel cases are replaceable to be good as new. You can't fix digipacks. We've got piles of jewel cases in our house up to the sky. :lol And they've never cracked.
But assuming in either case it does get damaged, at least jewel cases are replaceable to be good as new. You can't fix digipacks. We've got piles of jewel cases in our house up to the sky. :lol And they've never cracked.
Yeah well.. My house obviously has heavier gravity.
In any case, like I said, I've never had any problems with digipaks, and I prefer the way they look, too.
My digipak version includes the standard booklet, without the lyrics for the bonus tracks. Weird.
Where do you live? Jupiter?Nope... I live in a singularity of a black hole. The first time I listened to The Dance Of Eternity, its awesomeness opened up a black hole, and I was sucked into it, and have been living in it ever since. ;D
So how about that album? I love the intro of Slight of Hand so much, with whatever that sound is that's also playing during the verses. And JLB's vocals during Back on the Ground are some of my favourites from JLB in a while. The way he sings "you know I tried my best, you never gave me the time of day" is my favourite part.
Mine too, but the lyrics for the bonus tracks are printed on the inside of the digipak itself.
So what are the general feelings on this album? Do people like it or not? Is there a poll?I like it, though not as much as SI. The middle of IR is a bit samey to me, though it's bookended by some really good tracks. I will say, the ballads on IR are really good and much better than "Coming Home" on SI, which due to the style of the other tracks and its placement on the album, always felt like an afterthought. On IR, they're incorporated much better.
I still don't know what to think of the album after 10-ish listens. I really like some of the songs (Agony, I Got You, BOTG, Amnesia, Why) but some of the others are pretty forgettable for me (Slight of Hand, Unraveling... can't even recall the choruses of those after those 10 listens...), while I'm not sure about the rest yet. Say You're Still Mine is really catchy but I don't like the lyrics at all (sorry Matt :( ). I Will Not Break is also really cool but I like the heavy songs on SI way more. Thus so far I'm not sure yet, but as of now I like SI way more and after all the great reviews and the hyping I was a bit let down.
I am going to say this and I dont care what happens to me, but" Back on the Ground" is probably one of my favorite tracks of the year. Total Pop-Metal. Almost Retro. I feel it is like ABBA meets Megadeth?? I LOVE THIS TRACK!
:metal :metal :metal :metal
I like it, though not as much as SI. The middle of IR is a bit samey to me, though it's bookended by some really good tracks. I will say, the ballads on IR are really good and much better than "Coming Home" on SI, which due to the style of the other tracks and its placement on the album, always felt like an afterthought. On IR, they're incorporated much better.
Woot! My copy just shipped.Where are you going?
Hopefully it gets here before I leave on Saturday, though. :lucien:
I like it, though not as much as SI. The middle of IR is a bit samey to me, though it's bookended by some really good tracks. I will say, the ballads on IR are really good and much better than "Coming Home" on SI, which due to the style of the other tracks and its placement on the album, always felt like an afterthought. On IR, they're incorporated much better.
I agree with that, although I haven't heard SI yet.
I'm honestly a bit disappointed, and I almost never feel like playing the album :-\
It's still really good, but maybe I expected it to be something else.
After a bit more listening I can say I like IR more than SI, because the latter can get a bit samey at times and there are a few songs I don't care about, but IR feels more diverse, has less filler and the songs are even catchier.
While overall I enjoy IR over SI by a bit simply because of Amnesia and Holding On, my two favorite tracks on IR that have about 97 and 122 plays respectively, according to iTunes. :lol Can't get enough.
I like it, though not as much as SI. The middle of IR is a bit samey to me, though it's bookended by some really good tracks. I will say, the ballads on IR are really good and much better than "Coming Home" on SI, which due to the style of the other tracks and its placement on the album, always felt like an afterthought. On IR, they're incorporated much better.
I agree with that, although I haven't heard SI yet.
I'm honestly a bit disappointed, and I almost never feel like playing the album :-\
It's still really good, but maybe I expected it to be something else.
You should really get SI.
How do you pronounce Sfogli? Is the "S" silent?Sf-OH-lee, at least in English, you could ask one of our Italians for the "proper" pronunciation :)
Yeah, I thought the "g" might be silent instead of the "S". But, then again who knows for sure?
How do you pronounce Sfogli? Is the "S" silent?Sf-OH-lee, at least in English, you could ask one of our Italians for the "proper" pronunciation :)
How do you pronounce Sfogli? Is the "S" silent?Sf-OH-lee, at least in English, you could ask one of our Italians for the "proper" pronunciation :)
So, it rhymes with "holy." That means, when I'm blown away by a Marco solo, I can shout: "Holy Sfogli!!!"
It does when it's anglicized :angel:How do you pronounce Sfogli? Is the "S" silent?Sf-OH-lee, at least in English, you could ask one of our Italians for the "proper" pronunciation :)
So, it rhymes with "holy." That means, when I'm blown away by a Marco solo, I can shout: "Holy Sfogli!!!"
It doesn't really rhyme, unfortunately. :/ It should have been Sfoli to rhyme.
Anyway, a musical statement: Marco is awesome.
That's cool, have fun and good luck :tup
To get back on topic, another 2-3 listens haven't changed my opinion much. I'll probably leave this album be for a while and then listen again in a few weeks.
Yeah, I thought the "g" might be silent instead of the "S". But, then again who knows for sure?
I do. :D Nothing is ever really silent in Italian, not even the "p" in psicologo (psychologist). As for my namesake's surname:
https://vocaroo.com/i/s00w68m5CXsU (https://vocaroo.com/i/s00w68m5CXsU)
The "gl" followed by either i or e is sort of like the double L in Spanish and French.
We should, PM sent.That's cool, have fun and good luck :tup
To get back on topic, another 2-3 listens haven't changed my opinion much. I'll probably leave this album be for a while and then listen again in a few weeks.
We should do a listening session soon with some beer. Maybe that will change your mind, I still love this album and it's fucking awesome to drive to. So far, AOTY for me. And it has some great contestants, as you will likely know.
fuck you fuckers, I WANNA HANG OUT TOO :'(We should, PM sent.That's cool, have fun and good luck :tup
To get back on topic, another 2-3 listens haven't changed my opinion much. I'll probably leave this album be for a while and then listen again in a few weeks.
We should do a listening session soon with some beer. Maybe that will change your mind, I still love this album and it's fucking awesome to drive to. So far, AOTY for me. And it has some great contestants, as you will likely know.
fuck you fuckers, I WANNA HANG OUT TOO :'(We should, PM sent.That's cool, have fun and good luck :tup
To get back on topic, another 2-3 listens haven't changed my opinion much. I'll probably leave this album be for a while and then listen again in a few weeks.
We should do a listening session soon with some beer. Maybe that will change your mind, I still love this album and it's fucking awesome to drive to. So far, AOTY for me. And it has some great contestants, as you will likely know.
Shit, I think I'm addicted to this album. There's always a need to play at least one song of the album whenever I'm listening music.
What the hell did you put in the recordings, Matt? :lol
Shit, I think I'm addicted to this album. There's always a need to play at least one song of the album whenever I'm listening music.
What the hell did you put in the recordings, Matt? :lol
(https://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww224/GasparXR/Creeper-3_zps2733c19c.png):rollin
Shit, I think I'm addicted to this album. There's always a need to play at least one song of the album whenever I'm listening music.OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
What the hell did you put in the recordings, Matt? :lol
The chorus to " I Got You" is so catchy :) :)
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
YOU'RE ADDICTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:biggrin: :tupOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
YOU'RE ADDICTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stay away from the pornography, man.
I'm listening to it right now actually. Man, sorry, but the album is totally devoid of anything enjoyable in music.
Nope its all enjoyable. But of course if you don't like catchy melodies then it'll suck.
I'm listening to it right now actually. Man, sorry, but the album is totally devoid of anything enjoyable in music.
The album continues to really grow on me. At first I only liked a couple of tracks, but every song has something really catchy that I can't stop listening to.Usually I'm not into this kind of metal, but I really like this album.
I've only listened to Static Impulse once by now, but it already seems quite a lot more consistent than IR. However, after the first listen, apart from One More Time and This Is War none of the songs are as mindblowing as Agony, Undertow, I Got You, Say You're Still Mine, Amnesia, I Will Not Break or Why. But as I said, I've only listened to it once, so I expect it to grow on me :metal
I hate to say it, but Wildoer's screams are the reason I never got into SI, aside from loving the first two tracks (and I don't like the verses of One More Time, despite loving that amazing chorus to death). I listened to the album a few times at first, and the screams put me right off. They were just overwhelming.
I hate to say it, but Wildoer's screams are the reason I never got into SI, aside from loving the first two tracks (and I don't like the verses of One More Time, despite loving that amazing chorus to death). I listened to the album a few times at first, and the screams put me right off. They were just overwhelming.
I'm not a fan of them either, but apart from the two songs where he did the verses, I didn't mind them, because usually, they were either underneath the vocals, or just a couple of lines here and there. I definitely liked them better than MP's "Brothahood!" on AROP and some of the other stuff he did on BC&SL.
I couldn't see this being posted:
Peter Wildoer tracking drums for James LaBrie (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK4lb_MPNRA&feature=youtu.be)
Love the acoustic sound from the kit.
Watched them the other day. It makes me appreciate his drumming a lot. I love his cymbal work during the fills.Yea there's alot of creative stuff going on. Love when he uses diffrent snares.
I'm loving the new album. Every once in a while I get an album that has that one song that I have to keep hitting repeat on. This album has at least 3 of that one song!This.
Peter's drumming and screams are awesome on both albums :metal
I've only listened to Static Impulse once by now, but it already seems quite a lot more consistent than IR. However, after the first listen, apart from One More Time and This Is War none of the songs are as mindblowing as Agony, Undertow, I Got You, Say You're Still Mine, Amnesia, I Will Not Break or Why. But as I said, I've only listened to it once, so I expect it to grow on me :metal
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Where's your partner in crime? Scooby Doo where are you?
After listening to SI quite a bit this week I'm still blown away. Every single song is catchy and great, and it's so much fun to listen to. Amazing work, Matt (and of course the rest of the band) :tupSI is amazing indeed!
I couldn't even name any favourite tracks, since they are all consistently good and I've got a different one stuck in my head every day :metal
I liked a few songs on Static Impulse a lot but most of the album wasn't too mind blowing.
Impermanent Resolution... damn, I love it from A to Z! Each and every song is so full of melodies, I like the lyrics, love the guitars, love the drumming. There should be more bass guitar and more guitar solos, but so far it's my most frequently listened to album this year :metal
??? Never heard that album. Sounds like James LaBrie meets Lamb of God. :lolLol, I never can get the name right ;)
I don't really get the love for Elements Of Persuasion. I only really liked two or three songs.I agree with you.
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I managed to find Matt's YT channel (https://www.youtube.com/user/keytarist/videos) and there are some interesting videos like a couple of demos and studio videos from the SI sessions. So Matt, if you read this I have to say you have a nice voice (of course I knew you performed backing vocals on the albums, but I haven't heard you sing on your own before)! :tup
Somehow Euphoric just hit me even more than before :omg:
Such a great song, and there's something about the lyrics that makes me absolutely love them :metal
After listening to SI a lot within the last one or two weeks, I gave IR another listen, and although it doesn't quite come close to SI and some of the songs still seem kind of like filler to me, it's still a RAAAWK-ing album with lots of great stuff on it.
I am Dissapoint.
Is the whole album gonna have the screaming vocals and cheesy keys?
...Have you heard Impermanent Resonance?
...and even more so on Static Impulse.:tup :metal
Amnesia may be my favorite off of IR. Song is so damn catchy that I need amnesia to get it out of my head.Totally agree. The song just rocks.
Why does JLB always let his drummers do vocals? He should be like, "Bitch, sit back down or ye'll walk the plank ARRRRR!" :lol
Stranger, His Voice, Venice Burning, A Simple Man, Lace, Falling, Save Me, Believe, Listening, Tell Me, Slow Burn, Shores of Avalon, Confronting The Devil, and Sacrifice
:metalol:
I've also misheard one line in I Got You as "Bitches don't add up".
Do you mean Jekyll Or Hyde, Mora? Cause I hear the same thing, and right after that line, I always hear "just like a kid that never fucked it in". :lol :metal :metalAh yeah, excuse the wrong title, I've been studying for hours at that point :nerd:
Also, I'd like to ask Matt, why 'Why' is a bonus track and not a part of the actual album? It could be the best song here. (Apologies if this has been discussed.)
Also, I'd like to ask Matt, why 'Why' is a bonus track and not a part of the actual album? It could be the best song here. (Apologies if this has been discussed.)
Good question. Deciding the final album sequence was really difficult. "Why" is definitely a strong track, and many people have expressed what you are here. Honestly, we didn't want to have any bonus tracks because we felt all the songs were really strong. When it came time to make the final decision, I guess for some reason (that particular day) I felt it didn't quite stack up with the rest. It's cool to see that people are really digging it!
-Matt
How long ago did you buy it wolfking? You didn't preorder, did you? Because that would be utter shit having to wait this long if you did. :(
Honestly, I will say I do find it funny that the songs have gone in a less metal direction with Peter Wichers involved. I guess this is what made me expect something heavier than SI. I can still hear the Wichers influence as Soilwork has been one of my fav bands for the last 10 years, he adds some nice touches.
Honestly, I will say I do find it funny that the songs have gone in a less metal direction with Peter Wichers involved. I guess this is what made me expect something heavier than SI. I can still hear the Wichers influence as Soilwork has been one of my fav bands for the last 10 years, he adds some nice touches.
The funny thing is, if you strip out the vocals and some of the keyboard parts, there's some really heavy music going on underneath in some parts. There's a weird synergy of pop and metal that I don't think I've ever heard anything like before. Normally, "pop metal" refers to watered-down metal. On IR, though, it's still really heavy, just balanced with some poppier elements.
Honestly, I will say I do find it funny that the songs have gone in a less metal direction with Peter Wichers involved. I guess this is what made me expect something heavier than SI. I can still hear the Wichers influence as Soilwork has been one of my fav bands for the last 10 years, he adds some nice touches.
The funny thing is, if you strip out the vocals and some of the keyboard parts, there's some really heavy music going on underneath in some parts. There's a weird synergy of pop and metal that I don't think I've ever heard anything like before. Normally, "pop metal" refers to watered-down metal. On IR, though, it's still really heavy, just balanced with some poppier elements.
Honestly, I will say I do find it funny that the songs have gone in a less metal direction with Peter Wichers involved. I guess this is what made me expect something heavier than SI. I can still hear the Wichers influence as Soilwork has been one of my fav bands for the last 10 years, he adds some nice touches.
Believe it or not, but Peter loves and appreciates mainstream pop music just as much as I do. There was an instant, undeniable musical chemistry when we started working together. In fact, we will start working together on pop-only productions in the very near future. Can't wait.
In addition to that, I'll also be working on my debut solo album.
-Matt
Holy shit yes! Can't wait! Are you going to do all the vocals?
Also, i think i really prefer IR over SI, the songs are more catchy and better overall.
Honestly, I will say I do find it funny that the songs have gone in a less metal direction with Peter Wichers involved. I guess this is what made me expect something heavier than SI. I can still hear the Wichers influence as Soilwork has been one of my fav bands for the last 10 years, he adds some nice touches.
Believe it or not, but Peter loves and appreciates mainstream pop music just as much as I do. There was an instant, undeniable musical chemistry when we started working together. In fact, we will start working together on pop-only productions in the very near future. Can't wait.
In addition to that, I'll also be working on my debut solo album.
-Matt
The funny thing is, if you strip out the vocals and some of the keyboard parts, there's some really heavy music going on underneath in some parts. There's a weird synergy of pop and metal that I don't think I've ever heard anything like before. Normally, "pop metal" refers to watered-down metal. On IR, though, it's still really heavy, just balanced with some poppier elements.
Cool! That was a serious challenge when writing this stuff - the right juxtaposition of metal and mainstream pop. Despite the ridiculous amount of crafting, it was a lot of fun to do.
Honestly, I will say I do find it funny that the songs have gone in a less metal direction with Peter Wichers involved. I guess this is what made me expect something heavier than SI. I can still hear the Wichers influence as Soilwork has been one of my fav bands for the last 10 years, he adds some nice touches.
Believe it or not, but Peter loves and appreciates mainstream pop music just as much as I do. There was an instant, undeniable musical chemistry when we started working together. In fact, we will start working together on pop-only productions in the very near future. Can't wait.
In addition to that, I'll also be working on my debut solo album.
-Matt
Honestly, I will say I do find it funny that the songs have gone in a less metal direction with Peter Wichers involved. I guess this is what made me expect something heavier than SI. I can still hear the Wichers influence as Soilwork has been one of my fav bands for the last 10 years, he adds some nice touches.
The funny thing is, if you strip out the vocals and some of the keyboard parts, there's some really heavy music going on underneath in some parts. There's a weird synergy of pop and metal that I don't think I've ever heard anything like before. Normally, "pop metal" refers to watered-down metal. On IR, though, it's still really heavy, just balanced with some poppier elements.
The funny thing is, if you strip out the vocals and some of the keyboard parts, there's some really heavy music going on underneath in some parts. There's a weird synergy of pop and metal that I don't think I've ever heard anything like before. Normally, "pop metal" refers to watered-down metal. On IR, though, it's still really heavy, just balanced with some poppier elements.
Cool! That was a serious challenge when writing this stuff - the right juxtaposition of metal and mainstream pop. Despite the ridiculous amount of crafting, it was a lot of fun to do.
Yeah, I'm loving it more and more too.
Here's a very controversial opinion: Amnesia is my least fav track!!
Here's a very controversial opinion: Amnesia is my least fav track!!Mine would be Destined to Burn or Holding On, but there are no weak songs on the album.
Yeah, I'm loving it more and more too.
Here's a very controversial opinion: Amnesia is my least fav track!!
Here's a very controversial opinion: Amnesia is my least fav track!!Mine would be Destined to Burn or Holding On, but there are no weak songs on the album.
Here's a very controversial opinion: Amnesia is my least fav track!!Mine would be Destined to Burn or Holding On, but there are no weak songs on the album.
Destined to Burn and Lost In the Fire should have been bonus tracks if I had decided.
Going back to the misheard lyrics we talked about at the beginning of the page, look at the second top comment here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqOHNPdh1Pw) :lol:rollin
And the word 'fire' at around the 3:09 mark of the song is easily one of James' best vocal moments ever.
Holy shit yes! Can't wait! Are you going to do all the vocals?
Also, i think i really prefer IR over SI, the songs are more catchy and better overall.
Thanks! As for the vocals... right now, I plan on doing them. That could change though if I find someone I feel is better for the songs.
Cheers,
Matt
Okay, here's the deal with me and this album: I have purposely NOT posted my reaction to it. Why? Well...I'm generally the kind of person where, if I don't enjoy something, unless there's a reason to speak up, I'd rather just keep it to myself and politely not say anything at all. First couple of listens, I just wasn't really connecting with this album at all. And, honestly, while I thought Elements was "good," I haven't really felt a desire to listen to it in a long time, and after listening to SI a couple of times, I liked that album even less. I was resigned to put IR below both of those.
So, then, why do I feel compelled to post now? I had a couple of days last month where I had to do some road trips for work, so I popped the CD in. 3 things were different: Better speakers. More appropriate volume for this kind of music. More time to take in and digest what I was hearing. And those three elements combined made me look at this album in a completely different light. Having done that, I have to say, this album is fantastic on every single level. My opinion has done a complete 180. On my recent vacation, I logged about 2,700 miles, and had this album in the CD player constantly. And I am just floored with how good it is. And one of my favorite aspects of the entire thing is just the songwriting craft that went into it, beautifully combining pop with extreme metal elements. This is easily my favorite James LaBrie album by a HUGE margin, and I foresee it being in my top 3 albums of 2013. I am not sure yet where in my top 3 it will end up, but I am pleasantly surprised that my top 3 suddenly became very competitive with the release of this album. VERY well done, Matt. :clap:
I DON'T NEED STARS I CAN WISH UPON AND I DON'T NEED SOME MAGICIAN WITH A MAGIC WAND :metal :metal :metal :metal
I DON'T NEED STARS I CAN WISH UPON AND I DON'T NEED SOME MAGICIAN WITH A MAGIC WAND :metal :metal :metal :metal
Song of the year. F*cking unbelieveable.
So most of you seem to prefer IR over SI? I enjoy IR a lot, but SI still blows it out of the water IMO. I just can't help but do ridiculous semi-dance-headbanging moves and song along as loud as I can when listening to SI. Such a phenomenal album :heart :letam: :2metal: :metalI prefer SI to IR by quite a large margin.
*boss's opinion*
Okay, this album is constantly on repeat in my car, it's quite phenominal. The poppiness and sometimes lack of instrumental sections is completely not an issue anymore and the songs have opened up to be masterpieces, nothing filler here at all. This has potential to be my album of the year. I'm not gonna bother comparing it to SI either as they are both so different style wise, both are strong at what they do.
Oh, and for another controversial opinion, my favourite song on the album is easily Lost in the Fire. What a fucking masterpiece this is, it should be making the band millions. And the word 'fire' at around the 3:09 mark of the song is easily one of James' best vocal moments ever.
Me too (when I could drive on my own last month)!*boss's opinion*I wholeheartedly agree that this album is absolutely amazing if played while driving! I particularly enjoyed cranking this one in the car as well :)
My favorite song on IR has to be Slight of Hand - the keyboard intro is cool, the chorus is freaking catchy (YOU'LL NEVER CONVINCE MEEEE!) and James' vocals in the bridge are awesome :hefdaddyOh man, absolutely.
My favorite song on IR has to be Slight of Hand - the keyboard intro is cool, the chorus is freaking catchy (YOU'LL NEVER CONVINCE MEEEE!) and James' vocals in the bridge are awesome :hefdaddy
My favorite song on IR has to be Slight of Hand - the keyboard intro is cool, the chorus is freaking catchy (YOU'LL NEVER CONVINCE MEEEE!) and James' vocals in the bridge are awesome :hefdaddy
The intro is actually Peter Wichers' guitar. ;)
My favorite song on IR has to be Slight of Hand - the keyboard intro is cool, the chorus is freaking catchy (YOU'LL NEVER CONVINCE MEEEE!) and James' vocals in the bridge are awesome :hefdaddy
The intro is actually Peter Wichers' guitar. ;)
Seriously?
Okay, here's the deal with me and this album: I have purposely NOT posted my reaction to it. Why? Well...I'm generally the kind of person where, if I don't enjoy something, unless there's a reason to speak up, I'd rather just keep it to myself and politely not say anything at all. First couple of listens, I just wasn't really connecting with this album at all. And, honestly, while I thought Elements was "good," I haven't really felt a desire to listen to it in a long time, and after listening to SI a couple of times, I liked that album even less. I was resigned to put IR below both of those.
So, then, why do I feel compelled to post now? I had a couple of days last month where I had to do some road trips for work, so I popped the CD in. 3 things were different: Better speakers. More appropriate volume for this kind of music. More time to take in and digest what I was hearing. And those three elements combined made me look at this album in a completely different light. Having done that, I have to say, this album is fantastic on every single level. My opinion has done a complete 180. On my recent vacation, I logged about 2,700 miles, and had this album in the CD player constantly. And I am just floored with how good it is. And one of my favorite aspects of the entire thing is just the songwriting craft that went into it, beautifully combining pop with extreme metal elements. This is easily my favorite James LaBrie album by a HUGE margin, and I foresee it being in my top 3 albums of 2013. I am not sure yet where in my top 3 it will end up, but I am pleasantly surprised that my top 3 suddenly became very competitive with the release of this album. VERY well done, Matt. :clap:
From twitter:
"By the way. Won't be doing a solo tour until the next DT world tour wraps up. Please be patient, I can assure you it will be worth the wait."
Woah, I had no idea it was a guitar! :o There are lots of interesting guitar effects I'm not familiar with.My favorite song on IR has to be Slight of Hand - the keyboard intro is cool, the chorus is freaking catchy (YOU'LL NEVER CONVINCE MEEEE!) and James' vocals in the bridge are awesome :hefdaddyThe intro is actually Peter Wichers' guitar. ;)
BTW, I forgot to ask something in my last post: how much of the guitars on the album are played by Wichers?
BTW, I forgot to ask something in my last post: how much of the guitars on the album are played by Wichers?
I have a feeling the lead guitar melody line towards the end of Destined to Burn is Wichers, probably wrong though.
Thanks for answering! :tupBTW, I forgot to ask something in my last post: how much of the guitars on the album are played by Wichers?Not much. In fact, I believe the intro previously mentioned is all the playing he did. (He was perfectly fine with Marco handling his guitar parts)
I have a feeling the lead guitar melody line towards the end of Destined to Burn is Wichers, probably wrong though.
That was me, but played by Marco on the album. :)
-Matt
Hm, I absolutely love Agony, but the rest of the album - not so much. I don't know why really, the other songs are in the same style and everything, but they just don't ... click.
I would say
IR>SI>>>>EoP
This album has aged pretty well. You can put it on and never get bored. Not sure I'd rank it higher than SI though.
This album has aged pretty well. You can put it on and never get bored. Not sure I'd rank it higher than SI though.
Isn't it pretty much the same album? I've only made it through once so far. The growls are unnecessary, IMO, and nothing else has grabbed me. I should probably give it another spin, I just have no desire to.
I'll take the two Muzzmuzler albums.
I'm still undecided between SI and IR:neverusethis:
IR is REALLY consistent and every single song is catchy as hell. Just not too fun for the first two listens. (Kinda like the new Queens Of The Stone Age album which is my third fav album of the year.)I would say
IR>SI>>>>EoP
Forgettable: Slight Of HandNow wait a minute man... :eek
That's my favorite from the album for fucks sake!Forgettable: Slight Of HandNow wait a minute man... :eek
I never even caught that either, so don't feel bad.
That's my favorite from the album for fucks sake!Forgettable: Slight Of HandNow wait a minute man... :eek
Forgettable: Slight Of Hand, Holding On, Letting Go, Destined To BurnWe can never be friends. :P
That's my favorite from the album for fucks sake!Forgettable: Slight Of HandNow wait a minute man... :eek
I don't know if thi has been discussed before, but I'm even a bit ashamed to say i'VE listened to Impermanent resonance more than DT12 this year. I know that DT12 is an objectivley better album, I consider it as such and i love it, but something keeps me listening to IR almost every week.
Shit's addictive, yo
I don't know if thi has been discussed before, but I'm even a bit ashamed to say i'VE listened to Impermanent resonance more than DT12 this year. I know that DT12 is an objectivley better album, I consider it as such and i love it, but something keeps me listening to IR almost every week.
Shit's addictive, yo
Shit's addictive, yoI agree with this part.
The only song I'm not too keen on is Say You're Still Mine and that's because I'm still in my 'fuck bitches' mode, so the entire songs basis and meaning is lost on me.Oh, so that's why I'm really digging the song. :lol
Yeah, there really is no objective measure of music.Absolutely.
I don't see IR topping the magnificent Static impulse in my list. Not even coming close to it. However, the more I listen to both, the more I feel the need to get Elements of persuasion...
Following up on the success of his latest studio album, “Impermanent Resonance”, Dream Theater’s James LaBrie is set to release a new Digital EP entitled “I Will Not Break” on January 6th, 2014 in Europe and January 14th, 2014 in North America via InsideOutMusic!
Here's the tracklisting:
1. I Will Not Break (3:52)
2. Unraveling (3:31)
3. Why (3:45)
4. Coming Home (Alternate Mix) (4:23)
5. Jekyll Or Hyde (Demo) (3:48)
6. Just Watch Me (Demo) (4:17)
7. I Tried (Jason Miller Re-mix) (5:13)
8. Over The Edge (Mutrix Re-mix) (4:33)
9. Euphoric (NeonGenesis Re-mix) (4:41)
You can pre-order the “I Will Not Break” Digital EP here:
https://smarturl.it/jlb_iwillbreak
Check out the EP’s title-track “I Will Not Break” in a static video here: https://youtu.be/Nj8aAo3O06E
FFS. I saw this on FB and got excited, missed the whole "digital" part.
I read a review of the EP and reportedly the remixes aren't that great. I might get this if there was some new material, but there isn't and the release is digital anyway, so I'll pass.
:sad: I would have loved to hear some demos from IR sessions. Matt's voice in Unraveling is IMO better than JLB's.He has posted his demos of half the songs on IR: https://www.youtube.com/user/keytarist/videos Looks like he also uploaded an unreleased demo song yesterday!
I was hoping "Understand" would be on it.
Fairly disappointing, IMO. Honestly, if the EP included at least one Instrumental mix of ANY of the songs, I'd be all over that baby.
Besides the remixes, the EP just seems to be another way to get the two bonus tracks, so there's that.I suppose, for those who don't like Digipaks, and I recall a few people here who felt precisely that way.
I didn't get the bonus songs on the first go around so I could probably just pay for them individually now. I'll probably do that since everyone here seemed to like those songs.
I didn't get the bonus songs on the first go around so I could probably just pay for them individually now. I'll probably do that since everyone here seemed to like those songs.
If you haven't heard Why you really should!!
I didn't get the bonus songs on the first go around so I could probably just pay for them individually now. I'll probably do that since everyone here seemed to like those songs.
If you haven't heard Why you really should!!
Why?
I didn't get the bonus songs on the first go around so I could probably just pay for them individually now. I'll probably do that since everyone here seemed to like those songs.
If you haven't heard Why you really should!!
Why?
Yes. Why. It really should have been on the album.
I do like both Unraveling and Why, but I don't really get what all the fuss is about Why. It's a fine song, but far from being a favourite off the album of mine. (https://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o669/bolsters/shrug.gif~original)The chorus is so catchy though!
Yeah but when it comes to catchiness, it has a lot of stiff competition from the rest of the album. :PI do like both Unraveling and Why, but I don't really get what all the fuss is about Why. It's a fine song, but far from being a favourite off the album of mine. (https://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o669/bolsters/shrug.gif~original)The chorus is so catchy though!
Yeah but when it comes to catchiness, it has a lot of stiff competition from the rest of the album. :P
I mean, oftentimes bonus tracks end up being filler material that's entirely expendable because there's something sort of like it already on the album. But Why is definitely a unique track, IMO.Oh, don't get me wrong, I agree that both tracks are very far above average regarding the usual bonus track fare. Both of those songs could (should?) have been part of the full album and not felt out of place at all. I just personally am not in love with Why as much as a lot of others appear to be, although I do still like the song.
Unraveling deserved to be a bonus track IMO, but I think Why should've made the cut instead of Destined to Burn. That said, the whole album is awesome :metal
Unraveling deserved to be a bonus track IMO, but I think Why should've made the cut instead of Destined to Burn. That said, the whole album is awesome :metal
Played IR in the car for my mom this evening. She REALLY liked it :metal
I'm the same as you Ninja, I like EOP but apart from a few songs (particularly the softer ones) it's not all that exciting.Yeah, same here.
The softer tracks are definitely my favorite from EOP.
The worst song on SI is still a fucking great song, though :metalYes :metal
Matt Guillory and I are happy to announce that the song "Euphoric" from Static Impulse has been selected by Sony to be pre-loaded on 1,000,000+ (yes, one million plus, and potentially up to 10 million) of their 2011 walkman product line. The first wave has already been released and the next wave should be coming soon. When I get the model names/#'s, I will be sure to post a follow-up here.So my dad was one of the 1,000,000+ lucky ones :D I bet he'll never listen to the song, though :lol
The worst song on SI is still a fucking great song, though :metal
Some of the heavy songs on EOP sound like nu metal to my ears, especially Alone and Oblivious. I definitely prefer the melodeath influence on the latest 2 albums.
IR rules. Sleight of Hand is one of the best songs I've ever heard by any artist. Just amazing.
I also love EoP. Great album. First time I heard Mangini. Thought he was great even then. SI is good but doesn't really great me. Just Watch Me is a fantastic song though.
BTW, does anyone else get a Metallica vibe from Crucify? Of course the 7-strings and keyboards make it more modern, but the melodic intro and the thrashy riffing make me think of songs like Battery.
I've never sensed any connection, and even after it's been pointed out, aside from the drum beat (which is quite common nowadays) I still don't see anything to that.
Seriously, nobody else hears Battery? The acoustic intro which is very similar harmonically, and the way it leads into the fast riff, and then the way the fast drums come in, it's all exactly like Battery. I'm not saying the entire song, but the opening stuff is definitely heavily influenced by that song.
Yeah I should clarify - the acoustic intro itself doesn't sound like the acoustic intro to Battery. I was talking about the way the intro develops and then leads into the thrash riff, and then the thrash riff itself (and the first verse).Seriously, nobody else hears Battery? The acoustic intro which is very similar harmonically, and the way it leads into the fast riff, and then the way the fast drums come in, it's all exactly like Battery. I'm not saying the entire song, but the opening stuff is definitely heavily influenced by that song.
I agree with you regarding the heavy parts, although the intro reminds me of ACOS instead of Battery.
Yeah I should clarify - the acoustic intro itself doesn't sound like the acoustic intro to Battery. I was talking about the way the intro develops and then leads into the thrash riff, and then the thrash riff itself (and the first verse).Seriously, nobody else hears Battery? The acoustic intro which is very similar harmonically, and the way it leads into the fast riff, and then the way the fast drums come in, it's all exactly like Battery. I'm not saying the entire song, but the opening stuff is definitely heavily influenced by that song.
I agree with you regarding the heavy parts, although the intro reminds me of ACOS instead of Battery.
I know it's hard to jump right into such a LONG thread and not know what has posted, but as I've mentioned earlier in the thread, I think it is easily James' best work outside of DT. It is a great (and interesting) blend of pop and, at times, extreme metal that works very well. I would even recommend tracking down the special edition. The bonus tracks are worth it.
I would also recommend skimming back through the thread to read Matt Guillory's posts. (His user name is "Matt")
The bonus tracks are absolutely worth it, Unraveling is very solid and Why is my favourite of the album by far.
I think for me it'd be something like IR = SI >>> EoPSame here.
I'd recommended Static Impulse rather than Impermanent Resonance, but I know I'm in the minority when it comes to ranking JLB's solo material. IR is really good, but nowhere near the greatness of the two predecessors imo.
SI >> EOP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IR
Anyone know what's up with the extra lyrics in the linear notes for I Will Not Break?
a new JLB solo EP and tour next year? Hell yeah! :metal
a new JLB solo EP and tour next year? Hell yeah! :metalI'll get excited when it's confirmed not to be anything like the I Will Not Break EP. :lol
I'd actually like to hear a dreamstep/chillstep song by Matt :lolYeah alright, Matt doing chillstep would probably be fucking awesome. I'm on board. :lol
Have we heard anything about his solo album? I heard some of the guide vocal tracks he did, and his voice is fantastic, I'd love to hear a full release with just him singing (no disrespect to James, of course).
Matt said a couple pages back he's been working on it, and James also mentioned it in the Shockwave interview, but we haven't got any more info than that. I hope Matt will check in when it's time to break the news, I'd like to see it somewhere in the third quarter of 2014 :hat
Have we heard anything about his solo album? I heard some of the guide vocal tracks he did, and his voice is fantastic, I'd love to hear a full release with just him singing (no disrespect to James, of course).
Thank you!Matt said a couple pages back he's been working on it, and James also mentioned it in the Shockwave interview, but we haven't got any more info than that. I hope Matt will check in when it's time to break the news, I'd like to see it somewhere in the third quarter of 2014 :hat
Indeed, I am currently writing songs for it. I'm funding the solo album myself, so I'm taking my time with it. (Kinda nice not to have so much pressure!) That said, I do want to release it relatively soon. Marco, Ray, and Peter will be my backing band. (That was always the plan) There might be a couple of special guests though. ;)
Over a month ago, I posted a 30 second preview of a new song on my Facebook page. (It's not on YouTube)
Cheers!
I do want to release it relatively soonI like the sound of that! :metal
:metal :metal :metal Looking forward to this one.
Who wrote which lyrics on IR? I can't find it anywhere, but I don't actually have the album, so I don't know if it says in there. I gotta say, the album is not bad (still don't think it's great), but some the lyrics are pretty freaking terrible.
Could somebody list what lyrics are written by who?
As far as the lyrics go...
01: Agony (LaBrie)
02: Undertow (Guillory)
03: Slight Of Hand (LaBrie)
04: Back On The Ground (Guillory)
05: I Got You (Guillory)
06: Holding On (Guillory)
07: Lost In The Fire (Guillory/Lundin)
08: Letting Go (LaBrie)
09: Destined To Burn (LaBrie)
10: Say You're Still Mine (Lundin)
11: Amnesia (Guillory)
12: I Will Not Break (LaBrie)
Bonus Tracks:
13: Unraveling (Guillory/Lundin)
14: Why (Guillory)
I'd like to know the lyric credits for SI...I think they're written somewhere in the thread. It sucks they're not in the booklet, but what can we do.
Threw IR in the car today. It's aging really well, and is still amazing to listen to.
Dang I was really hoping LaBrie wasn't at fault for the terrible lyrics on Destined To Burn. :-[
At least he didn't come up with "Just not on Vennuuusss, Come on, Come on"
My honest opinion.
Dang I was really hoping LaBrie wasn't at fault for the terrible lyrics on Destined To Burn. :-[
At least he didn't come up with "Just not on Vennuuusss, Come on, Come on"
My honest opinion.
We are not friends
I didn't find them anywhere but I try to remember them:Kiitos! :tup I could guess some of those based on James and Matt's writing styles and what songs James discussed in interviews upon the album's release. After reading that someone had interpreted Euphoric as a song about James being into overweight girls, I've found it hard to take the lyrics 100% seriously :lol
One More Time - Guillory
Jekyll or Hyde - Guillory
Mislead - JLB
Euphoric - JLB
Over the Edge - JLB
I Need You - Guillory (really not sure..?)
Who You Think I Am - Guillory
I Tried - Guillory
Just Watch Me - JLB
This Is War - Guillory
Superstar - JLB
Coming Home - JLB
I might talk bullshit but somebody could correct me if I'm wrong!
I've never had a problem with any of the lyrics.Me either. A couple of lines in a few songs are kind of cheesy, but the music is so strong that I don't care. Poetic lyrics would feel out of place in this kind of straightforward, poppy metal anyway.
Who wrote which lyrics on IR? I can't find it anywhere, but I don't actually have the album, so I don't know if it says in there. I gotta say, the album is not bad (still don't think it's great), but some the lyrics are pretty freaking terrible.
Who wrote which lyrics on IR? I can't find it anywhere, but I don't actually have the album, so I don't know if it says in there. I gotta say, the album is not bad (still don't think it's great), but some the lyrics are pretty freaking terrible.
Considering the person who wrote a lot of those lyrics reads this forum, maybe you could try to be a little more tactful. Personally, I think most of the lyrics are really good, with just an occasional line here or there that doesn't quite work.
Ditto. Not even close in my mind.
Ditto. Not even close in my mind.
Same. IR slays DT12.
Oh my God how can you even say that?!?! I don't even think I'd say that as a joke.
Who wrote which lyrics on IR? I can't find it anywhere, but I don't actually have the album, so I don't know if it says in there. I gotta say, the album is not bad (still don't think it's great), but some the lyrics are pretty freaking terrible.
Considering the person who wrote a lot of those lyrics reads this forum, maybe you could try to be a little more tactful. Personally, I think most of the lyrics are really good, with just an occasional line here or there that doesn't quite work.
Attila the hunninator, he's not saying you shouldn't post your opinion, but this isn't the first time you've expressed it in a crass manner. You repeatedly lack tact when posting criticism.
So you like Static Impulse but not Impermanent Resonance? That's interesting.
ZirconBlue, if any artist I respected was reading my comment on his work, I'd want to be thoroughly honest.
Who wrote which lyrics on IR? I can't find it anywhere, but I don't actually have the album, so I don't know if it says in there. I gotta say, the album is not bad (still don't think it's great), but some the lyrics are pretty freaking terrible.
Considering the person who wrote a lot of those lyrics reads this forum, maybe you could try to be a little more tactful. Personally, I think most of the lyrics are really good, with just an occasional line here or there that doesn't quite work.
Attila the hunninator, he's not saying you shouldn't post your opinion, but this isn't the first time you've expressed it in a crass manner. You repeatedly lack tact when posting criticism.
:biggrin: Don't TRRRYYYYYYY and change maayyy
No I'm kidding. Indeed I've gotten that before. I don't think I really see anything wrong with what I said. Maybe I'll look back and think again, but I don't think I'm being rude; just being plain and straight forward.
As much as I like IR I'd still say DT12>IR.
James said the plan is to record a new EP and get on the road next year after the DT tour is over.
Who wrote which lyrics on IR? I can't find it anywhere, but I don't actually have the album, so I don't know if it says in there. I gotta say, the album is not bad (still don't think it's great), but some the lyrics are pretty freaking terrible.
Considering the person who wrote a lot of those lyrics reads this forum, maybe you could try to be a little more tactful. Personally, I think most of the lyrics are really good, with just an occasional line here or there that doesn't quite work.
Attila the hunninator, he's not saying you shouldn't post your opinion, but this isn't the first time you've expressed it in a crass manner. You repeatedly lack tact when posting criticism.
One can be honest and still be tactful. "Freaking terrible" is not constructive criticism, it's just insulting someone's work.
As much as I like IR I'd still say DT12>IR.
Who wrote which lyrics on IR? I can't find it anywhere, but I don't actually have the album, so I don't know if it says in there. I gotta say, the album is not bad (still don't think it's great), but some the lyrics are pretty freaking terrible.
Considering the person who wrote a lot of those lyrics reads this forum, maybe you could try to be a little more tactful. Personally, I think most of the lyrics are really good, with just an occasional line here or there that doesn't quite work.
Attila the hunninator, he's not saying you shouldn't post your opinion, but this isn't the first time you've expressed it in a crass manner. You repeatedly lack tact when posting criticism.
This. One can be honest and still be tactful. "Freaking terrible" is not constructive criticism, it's just insulting someone's work.
12. Insults or senseless bashing of the current or former band members of Dream Theater and/or their music will not be tolerated. Honest, open critique is always allowed, provided it does not cross the line and become bashing, belittling, etc.
But suffice it to say that while I may have moved on from DT's style of playing, I still love the guys and quite honestly, JLB was a huge part of why I loved DT in the first place. So to have him sing on another album with a very different style to DT is a real treat.Yeah, this is a huge part of why I like the JLB/MG albums.
But suffice it to say that while I may have moved on from DT's style of playing, I still love the guys and quite honestly, JLB was a huge part of why I loved DT in the first place. So to have him sing on another album with a very different style to DT is a real treat.Yeah, this is a huge part of why I like the JLB/MG albums.
But suffice it to say that while I may have moved on from DT's style of playing, I still love the guys and quite honestly, JLB was a huge part of why I loved DT in the first place. So to have him sing on another album with a very different style to DT is a real treat.Yeah, this is a huge part of why I like the JLB/MG albums.
If you want to hear what JLB is REALLY capable of, try Frameshift Unweaving the Rainbow. Fantastic album with James on vox.
If you want to hear what JLB is REALLY capable of, try Frameshift Unweaving the Rainbow. Fantastic album with James on vox.
Along those lines, his work on Babysteps is also great. The arrogance he portrays in his character is great.
If you want to hear what JLB is REALLY capable of, try Frameshift Unweaving the Rainbow. Fantastic album with James on vox.
Along those lines, his work on Babysteps is also great. The arrogance he portrays in his character is great.
Ditto to both.
(actually, I haven't listened to Babysteps, is that the Magna Carta thing or something else?)
Babysteps tells the story of Nick (Jody Ashworth, Trans Siberian Orchestra), a professional athlete, who finds himself in a wheelchair having to recover in a rehabilitation center. The struggle with his arrogant doctor (James LaBrie, Dream Theater) reaches its climax in a big fight. Matt (Matt Cash, Chain/Frameshift/Solo), another patient, tries to befriend Nick who doesn’t trust people anymore. Matt introduces his physician to Nick, Dr. Sizzla (Michael Sadler, SAGA), who gives him valuable advice on how to approach his situation and his doctor. Babysteps is the story of Nick’s journey on the way to recovery and the obstacles he has to overcome.
So you like Static Impulse but not Impermanent Resonance? That's interesting.
Well I'd personally say that SI is miles ahead of IR. They are definitely similar stylistically, but the quality of the songwriting isn't even close. I'm not saying that IR is a bad album, in fact I do enjoy listening to it from time to time, but both SI and EOP are far superior in my opinion. I adore those two.
Gotta get that Babysteps album.
Gotta get that Babysteps album.
Sadly my friend, it's distributed by Progrock Records - www.therecordlabel.net
I'm not sure if i brought this up before, but I'm wondering about a song Labrie was on. Before ToT was released, there was a fake version of As I Am going around online. It was actually a pretty good song though, and was really Labrie singing. Anyone what song this was? Was it from his solo work?
Hm aside from the obvious Elements of Persuasion being leaked as Octavarium, I can't remember any specifically.
The only other JLB song I recall making the rounds is Venice Burning from Mullmuzzler 2, but I don't care for those albums at all, so I'm not sure what songs would pass as DT.
Hm aside from the obvious Elements of Persuasion being leaked as Octavarium, I can't remember any specifically.
The only other JLB song I recall making the rounds is Venice Burning from Mullmuzzler 2, but I don't care for those albums at all, so I'm not sure what songs would pass as DT.
Should have read your post first. I remember the Mullmuzzler 2 one too, not sure which song.
The Frameshift album he's on (while awesome) could hardly be confused with anything off of ToT. :lolYeah, but as I understand, this came out before ToT was released, so back then it was all up in the air.
The one that was released awhile back?There's supposed to be another one in the works.
The one that was released awhile back?There's supposed to be another one in the works.
Now make your point into a pun so I can take it seriously, dammit.
Found it:
Original thread (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=40793.msg1768813)
Initial post about it in this thread (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=15200.msg1768817#msg1768817)
Now make your point into a pun so I can take it seriously, dammit.
Well, I used to be undecided about which I liked best. I'll listen to them all one more time just to be sure, even though the growlie parts can at times be agony.
A trainwreck live version of I Got You (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ob8Tz0267QU)Damn. :mehlin
Jesus christ.... I wonder what was wrong with them? Tired as hell? Someone spiked their drinks? Raped by a pack of wolves?I think it's just the lack of rehearsals, but this proves that even a group of professionals can sound horrible if they haven't played together before.
I was supposed to see this Metal all stars thing next week, but it got cancelled apparently.The Euro tour has been pushed back to spring: https://www.metalallstars.com/
Jesus christ.... I wonder what was wrong with them? Tired as hell? Someone spiked their drinks? Raped by a pack of wolves?I think it's just the lack of rehearsals, but this proves that even a group of professionals can sound horrible if they haven't played together before.
Jesus christ.... I wonder what was wrong with them? Tired as hell? Someone spiked their drinks? Raped by a pack of wolves?
That was...unbearable. He doesn't have us. Well, it's not like I ever planned to see any of this material live anyway. It's just kinda... owie.
James isn't too bad considering what he is singing against. This is just terrible. I'd ask for my fucking money back. Did they not rehearse the song at all, Jesus. The guitarist should never be allowed to pick up the instrument again.Just checking - you guys realise that's not his band right? It's that Metal All Stars thing.
Jesus christ.... I wonder what was wrong with them? Tired as hell? Someone spiked their drinks? Raped by a pack of wolves?
That was...unbearable. He doesn't have us. Well, it's not like I ever planned to see any of this material live anyway. It's just kinda... owie.James isn't too bad considering what he is singing against. This is just terrible. I'd ask for my fucking money back. Did they not rehearse the song at all, Jesus. The guitarist should never be allowed to pick up the instrument again.Just checking - you guys realise that's not his band right? It's that Metal All Stars thing.
Oh yeah, I don't disagree, just wasn't sure from your posts whether you thought that was was JLB's band would normally be like live.
But yeah, the Metal All Stars thing never appealed to me even slightly as a concept, and this seems to validate that.
Damn, I saw this thread bumped and thought there was some new album news.Yeah same, got all excite.
I wish he would!
“I think it’s just a matter of Matt Guillory, myself, and all the other guys making time to get together,” says LaBrie. “It really is a band and me and Matt are really passionate about keeping the same players of the last 10 years. Matt and I have talked and we agree that we definitely have to do another one, we have to follow up Impermanent Resonance with an album that is just as killer. I think it’ll be better. It really is a matter of being able to sit down and put the time and focus into it that it deserves. But yeah, I do believe there will be another one. I really want to do another solo album before I say ‘I’m done, I don’t want to do this anymore…’ or ‘I don’t want to perform live anymore.'”
I would be worried about the last couple of lines. If he has one more solo album in him before he quits performing live, I would give him two more albums/tours with Dream Theater.
I'd rather James solo than DT at the moment.(https://s.yimg.com/fz/api/res/1.2/QAau91HClOLO_ebbJ1h2wQ--/YXBwaWQ9c3JjaGRkO2g9MjQwO3E9OTU7dz0yMzU-/https://cdn.styleforum.net/c/c5/235x240px-LL-c50386a2_nod-of-approval.gif)
I'd rather James solo than DT at the moment. They better make time haha.
I'd rather James solo than DT at the moment. They better make time haha.
I've probably listened to Impermanent Resonance more than the last 3 DT albums combined. I just don't know where they find time for side projects.
I'd rather James solo than DT at the moment. They better make time haha.
I've probably listened to Impermanent Resonance more than the last 3 DT albums combined. I just don't know where they find time for side projects.
When do James and JM have the time for a side project? When DT write their new albums ;)
I'd rather James solo than DT at the moment. They better make time haha.
I've probably listened to Impermanent Resonance more than the last 3 DT albums combined. I just don't know where they find time for side projects.
When do James and JM have the time for a side project? When DT write their new albums ;)
Sadly true, and you can add MM as well. Next album they should take a "Fragile" approach and let individual members write songs. That would change things up for sure.
Has he ever played out live supporting any of these side projects?
I'm listening to the I Will Not Break EP. :metal
I'm listening to the I Will Not Break EP. :metal
I didn't bother. Seemed like a waste of time and a cash grab.
If you didn't have any of those bonus tracks that EP might have been worth it. But I already had them, and I thought the electronica remixes sucked, so I didn't bother.
This reminded me how much I liked this raw video off Marco's Youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxx7AF1XSxQHas he ever played out live supporting any of these side projects?
James played a few solo shows when Elements of Persuasion was released.
:tupThis reminded me how much I liked this raw video off Marco's Youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxx7AF1XSxQHas he ever played out live supporting any of these side projects?
James played a few solo shows when Elements of Persuasion was released.
A tour was on for SI I think it was, but passport issues came into play and the tour was called off.
Some of you know that James worked with Tim Donahue (Mike Mangini too on drums), it's called Madmen and Sinners. Tim Donahue, after that made a album called Madmen and Sinners Pt II but never realesed but only performed live.
There is another 4 outtake tracks from Madmen and Sinners Pt I.
1-Falling Sky
2-History Repeats
3-A Heartbeat Away
4-All That Remains
Here it is: https://soundcloud.com/donahue-tim/tim-donahue-with-james-labrie-mike-mangini
I love Madmen and Sinners. It's absolutely one of the James' darkest and intense vocal work.
He sings in the entire album. Children of the Flame and Million Miles got a lot of aritime from me back in the day.
13 years ago, man. That's centuries in Internet time.He sings in the entire album. Children of the Flame and Million Miles got a lot of aritime from me back in the day.
Back in what day? :lol
He sings in the entire album. Children of the Flame and Million Miles got a lot of aritime from me back in the day.
Another gem is Henning Pauly's Babysteps album. James shines on it.
Another gem is Henning Pauly's Babysteps album. James shines on it.
Never heard of that either. Does James sing the whole album?
I've loved the "solo" stuff though, and hope we get another one sooner rather than later, as I prefer it to recent DT at this point.
Some of you know that James worked with Tim Donahue (Mike Mangini too on drums), it's called Madmen and Sinners. Tim Donahue, after that made a album called Madmen and Sinners Pt II but never realesed but only performed live.
There is another 4 outtake tracks from Madmen and Sinners Pt I.
1-Falling Sky
2-History Repeats
3-A Heartbeat Away
4-All That Remains
Here it is: https://soundcloud.com/donahue-tim/tim-donahue-with-james-labrie-mike-mangini
I love Madmen and Sinners. It's absolutely one of the James' darkest and intense vocal work.
I probably have no desire to see DT live anytime soon unless something huge happens, but I'd easily see JLB live, I'd even travel a considerable distance for it.
Since we're digging out potential forgotten gems... how about the rock opera Leonardo - The Absolute Man? James co-stars as Leonardo and sings a lot in the album, there at least two fantastic songs: a female duet (This Time, This Way) and a solo song that is a vocal showcase for James (Shaping the Invisible).
Since we're digging out potential forgotten gems... how about the rock opera Leonardo - The Absolute Man? James co-stars as Leonardo and sings a lot in the album, there at least two fantastic songs: a female duet (This Time, This Way) and a solo song that is a vocal showcase for James (Shaping the Invisible).
Since we're digging out potential forgotten gems... how about the rock opera Leonardo - The Absolute Man? James co-stars as Leonardo and sings a lot in the album, there at least two fantastic songs: a female duet (This Time, This Way) and a solo song that is a vocal showcase for James (Shaping the Invisible).
That's one I don't think I've even heard of.
I was looking for a Wikipedia link and I found out that Trent Gardner had died last June. WHAT THE HELL??????
Since we're digging out potential forgotten gems... how about the rock opera Leonardo - The Absolute Man? James co-stars as Leonardo and sings a lot in the album, there at least two fantastic songs: a female duet (This Time, This Way) and a solo song that is a vocal showcase for James (Shaping the Invisible).
That's one I don't think I've even heard of.
Since we're digging out potential forgotten gems... how about the rock opera Leonardo - The Absolute Man? James co-stars as Leonardo and sings a lot in the album, there at least two fantastic songs: a female duet (This Time, This Way) and a solo song that is a vocal showcase for James (Shaping the Invisible).
That's one I don't think I've even heard of.
Both Leonardo and Frameshift absolutely showcase James' voice in ways that he can't do in DT. Haven't listened to Leonardo in ages. Need to spin that sucker again. As wolfking said, This Time, This Way and Shaping the Invisible are stunning performances.
Since we're digging out potential forgotten gems... how about the rock opera Leonardo - The Absolute Man? James co-stars as Leonardo and sings a lot in the album, there at least two fantastic songs: a female duet (This Time, This Way) and a solo song that is a vocal showcase for James (Shaping the Invisible).
That's one I don't think I've even heard of.
Both Leonardo and Frameshift absolutely showcase James' voice in ways that he can't do in DT. Haven't listened to Leonardo in ages. Need to spin that sucker again. As wolfking said, This Time, This Way and Shaping the Invisible are stunning performances.
Since we're digging out potential forgotten gems... how about the rock opera Leonardo - The Absolute Man? James co-stars as Leonardo and sings a lot in the album, there at least two fantastic songs: a female duet (This Time, This Way) and a solo song that is a vocal showcase for James (Shaping the Invisible).
That's one I don't think I've even heard of.
Both Leonardo and Frameshift absolutely showcase James' voice in ways that he can't do in DT. Haven't listened to Leonardo in ages. Need to spin that sucker again. As wolfking said, This Time, This Way and Shaping the Invisible are stunning performances.
I don't remember saying that! ;)
Is the Leonardo thing the album that has that awful version of Nessun Dorma? I love James, but that is just awful.
TSR is one of the worst things I've ever heard, IMO. :lol
Leonardo was ok, but not very interesting. Frameshift was a little better, but still hit and miss. Madmen & Sinners was a lot stronger, from what I recall.
Leonardo was pretty terrible.
I asked James about the new solo album and he said it's in the works and should be out next year. :)
I hope they try something a little different.
Their last two albums are amazing, but I honestly can't tell which songs are on which album anymore.
I asked James about the new solo album and he said it's in the works and should be out next year. :)
Saddest thing about that pic is that she looks SO young, but I still remember watching that movie and thinking to myself, "man, I hope I'm not like that when I get to be older like her."
Also, I posted this elsewhere, but... is this James, or Dante from Clerks??
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/db/Brian_O%27Halloran_2015.jpg/220px-Brian_O%27Halloran_2015.jpg)
The new solo album will be out (hopefully) by the fall, with the same band members :smiley:
https://www.moshville.co.uk/interview/2017/04/interview-james-labrie-of-dream-theater
Anyway, I still remember back in 1993 and we were out with a band called Damn the Machine and Glasgow was one of the last shows on that particular leg of the tour. But the guys in Damn the Machine got us a stripper and in the middle of “Surrounded” she decided to come out and start dancing right in front of me! As you can imagine, I was a bit taken aback by it but the crowd totally ate it up man. I’ll never forget that night.
Excellent news! :metal looking very forward to it, and also to a tour.
Because of his solo tour, James is actually the only DT member I've ever met (he's obviously more approachable while playing solo in smaller venues), he was very kind and also his performance was impressive. Unless I remember wrong, Mangini himself was the drummer on that tour!
When the hell did/will James find time to record vocals?I'm guessing during the summer. DT won't be touring then because of JP's commitments towards his guitar camp. It kind of lines up perfectly.
As someone who is a big fan of Linkin Park, I can say with a reasonable amount of confidence that JLB's solo stuff sounds absolutely nothing like Linkin Park. And the harsh vocals are pretty sparse even on SI, and basically non-existent on IR.
Sounds like it's just not your kind of thing.
I have to say something that may be unpopular, but with respect to James LaBrie solo work...
I love the guy's singing. He (and Mike P.) were the reason I got into Dream Theater back in '92 when I first heard Pull Me Under and went and bought the album. His vocals just blew me away. LOVED them, and for the most part, still do.
So you'd think I'd love his solo stuff, right? But I have Elements of Persuasion (which is pretty good) and Impermanent Resonance (which is just not clicking). I'm sort of lost; I just don't get the point of his solo works. He's not the primary writer (though it says he wrote most of the lyrics from EoP), so he's singing someone else's works again. I can't stand the screaming vocals - he's a singer, so I'd rather hear HIM sing than the drummer - and the music sounds like any of a 100 bands from 2004 looking to make it in metal (Linkin Park, Three Days Grace, looking right at you). That over-compressed, over-processed metal sound... I would have been interested to hear him take on a different genre, or share his thoughts, or show his rudimentary guitar skills. Something, anything, that made it HIS. Just seems so... pointless to me.
It's true that, in the prog world, James' is the least "solo" of them. He's more solo in the sense of pop singers who have writers and contribute at times. In this case, you were right, this really is more of Matt's project, and they call it James Labrie to help sell more records. Not something I mind. They tried it the other way for two records (Mullmuzzler) but I assume those didn't sell as much as James Labrie.
A while back I started a thread about our dream JLB setlists. Might be a good time to resurrect the thread. Feel free to join in.
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=38508.msg1643784#msg1643784
It's less about the "Linkin Park" reference - I'm not terribly familiar with their material, I was looking for a touchstone; think of the chorus of "In The End" to get where I was going (a song I like, by the way) - than it is understanding "what's the message? What's the voice?" Maybe I'm too into guys like Neal Morse or Fish, who's every song drips with their world view, their emotions, their presence. Dave Roth, Sam Hagar; you listen to one of their solo albums and you know INSTANTLY who that person and that persona are.
It really just seems to me to be Matt Guillory's project, with LaBrie singing, and the best marketing play was to put James' name on there, not Matt's.
To @goo-goo, no I have not heard either of those two albums, but I'm open to hearing anything.
This is You've Got Another Thing Coming by Judas Priest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg4cmpZjtRU
Just listened to Agony from the new album, wow! It was way heavier than I was expecting. I've never listened to any of JLB's solo albums, is Agony representive of his solo work? It was almost melo-death at times :metal
This is You've Got Another Thing Coming by Judas Priest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg4cmpZjtRU
This is Separate Ways (Worlds Apart) by Journey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9de0Bw3nIA
Both are in a rare CD released only Japan and Germany. (From 1999)
Just listened to Agony from the new album, wow! It was way heavier than I was expecting. I've never listened to any of JLB's solo albums, is Agony representive of his solo work? It was almost melo-death at times :metal
It's a good representation of the last two. EOP was nice and heavy but didn't have any growls. If you liked Agony, get into 'em mate! Peter Wichers from Soilwork had a hand in the last one, so melo-death is the exact style James was going for.
Just listened to Agony from the latest album, wow! It was way heavier than I was expecting. I've never listened to any of JLB's solo albums, is Agony representive of his solo work? It was almost melo-death at times :metal
Just listened to Agony from the latest album, wow! It was way heavier than I was expecting. I've never listened to any of JLB's solo albums, is Agony representive of his solo work? It was almost melo-death at times :metal
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Mike Portnoy was always considered "the metal guy" in DT, but James has put out the heaviest music outside of DT. :metal
Just listened to Agony from the latest album, wow! It was way heavier than I was expecting. I've never listened to any of JLB's solo albums, is Agony representive of his solo work? It was almost melo-death at times :metal
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Mike Portnoy was always considered "the metal guy" in DT, but James has put out the heaviest music outside of DT. :metal
Yea, I'm kicking myself right now for not checking out JLB's solo stuff sooner. Just finished listening to Impermanent Resonance and it was a great listen. I'd take this over The Astonishing any day. I guess I always imagined JLB's solo output would be very vocal central with loads of ballads. I like JLB's vocals in general but my ear is almost always drawn to the instruments, especially electric guitar, so I didn't think his solo stuff would be for me. I couldn't have been more wrong. I'm just quite surprised that this is the sort of music JLB is putting out at this point in his career, it's great don't get me wrong. I just didn't expect an album with such melo-death leanings, awesome stuff!
I quite like Mullmuzzler, not as heavy and a little more on the proggy side than his recent releases. But he hit the nail with Static Impulse, my favorite.
Just listened to Agony from the latest album, wow! It was way heavier than I was expecting. I've never listened to any of JLB's solo albums, is Agony representive of his solo work? It was almost melo-death at times :metal
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Mike Portnoy was always considered "the metal guy" in DT, but James has put out the heaviest music outside of DT. :metal
Yea, I'm kicking myself right now for not checking out JLB's solo stuff sooner. Just finished listening to Impermanent Resonance and it was a great listen. I'd take this over The Astonishing any day. I guess I always imagined JLB's solo output would be very vocal central with loads of ballads. I like JLB's vocals in general but my ear is almost always drawn to the instruments, especially electric guitar, so I didn't think his solo stuff would be for me. I couldn't have been more wrong. I'm just quite surprised that this is the sort of music JLB is putting out at this point in his career, it's great don't get me wrong. I just didn't expect an album with such melo-death leanings, awesome stuff!
JLB: Solo album "should be ready in late 2017, I think":letam: :2metal: :metal
Hope James actually writes lyrics and vocal melodies this time. For albums that have his name on them, he sure doesn't do much on them except sing. I realize he considers his "solo" effort to be a "band," but the least he could do if he's going to use his name is actually play more of a role than he does with DT. :lol
To be honest, I don't understand the point of JLB having a band with his name if it isn't really a solo project that he's driving from a creative standpoint. I mean, if he just wants to sing, then don't call it your name. Choose a band name.
Hope James actually writes lyrics and vocal melodies this time. For albums that have his name on them, he sure doesn't do much on them except sing. I realize he considers his "solo" effort to be a "band," but the least he could do if he's going to use his name is actually play more of a role than he does with DT. :lol
To be honest, I don't understand the point of JLB having a band with his name if it isn't really a solo project that he's driving from a creative standpoint. I mean, if he just wants to sing, then don't call it your name. Choose a band name.
Marketing. James' name on the front is instant name recognition for a lot of fans in the metal/prog/rock community.
Yea, I said the same thing to Frank Sinatra.
JLB: Solo album "should be ready in late 2017, I think"Yes
https://www.rockbook.hu/hirek/2018-were-gonna-make-new-album-james-labrie-interview
(the title of the interview is about the new DT they'll do in 2018)
Hope James actually writes lyrics and vocal melodies this time. For albums that have his name on them, he sure doesn't do much on them except sing. I realize he considers his "solo" effort to be a "band," but the least he could do if he's going to use his name is actually play more of a role than he does with DT. :lol
To be honest, I don't understand the point of JLB having a band with his name if it isn't really a solo project that he's driving from a creative standpoint. I mean, if he just wants to sing, then don't call it your name. Choose a band name.
Yea, I said the same thing to Frank Sinatra.
I thought James used to write most of the lyrics and Matt Guillory would work on the rest... Isn't it?
I thought James used to write most of the lyrics and Matt Guillory would work on the rest... Isn't it?
I dunno how it was on Mullmuzzler, but on EoP, I think it was pretty 50/50 or close to it. The recent two albums, however, seem largely like a Guillory solo album with James on vocals. Sad, since as much as I love Guillory and his writing, I'm not a fan of his lyrics.
It seems James lost interest in writing lyrics over the years...
What was the last song released with James on vocals that had lyrics composed by him anyway? I think it goes back to DT's Far From Heaven... Except if James wrote the lyrics from "Destined to Burn" and "I Will Not Break". I think I read he did so in an interview.
What was the last song released with James on vocals that had lyrics composed by him anyway? I think it goes back to DT's Far From Heaven... Except if James wrote the lyrics from "Destined to Burn" and "I Will Not Break". I think I read he did so in an interview.
Yea, he either wrote or co-wrote the lyrics to Agony, Slight of Hand, Letting Go, Destined to Burn, and I Will Not Break.
I think the weakest link in the mot recent albums are the lyrics, euphoric comes to mind as being exceptionally bad.
I think the weakest link in the mot recent albums are the lyrics, euphoric comes to mind as being exceptionally bad.
I don't mind at all the song... it portrays well the state of mind of someone who goes "OMG SHE DIGS ME YAY!!!!1111"
Was it on this forum where Matt talked about Coming Home? I remember the lyrics for that one got a lot of heat.
My bad, I was thinking of "Back on the Ground."
Hope James actually writes lyrics and vocal melodies this time. For albums that have his name on them, he sure doesn't do much on them except sing. I realize he considers his "solo" effort to be a "band," but the least he could do if he's going to use his name is actually play more of a role than he does with DT. :lol
To be honest, I don't understand the point of JLB having a band with his name if it isn't really a solo project that he's driving from a creative standpoint. I mean, if he just wants to sing, then don't call it your name. Choose a band name.
Was it on this forum where Matt talked about Coming Home? I remember the lyrics for that one got a lot of heat.
I think the weakest link in the mot recent albums are the lyrics, euphoric comes to mind as being exceptionally bad.
I don't mind at all the song... it portrays well the state of mind of someone who goes "OMG SHE DIGS ME YAY!!!!1111"
I thought James used to write most of the lyrics and Matt Guillory would work on the rest... Isn't it?
I dunno how it was on Mullmuzzler, but on EoP, I think it was pretty 50/50 or close to it. The recent two albums, however, seem largely like a Guillory solo album with James on vocals. Sad, since as much as I love Guillory and his writing, I'm not a fan of his lyrics.
On EoP James wrote the lyrics for 9 songs, Matt for 3. On SI it was 50/50. The lyrics on IR are mostly Matt's. It seems James lost interest in writing lyrics over the years :sad:
Woah.
Watch Sons of Apollo play as an opener...
Woah.
Watch Sons of Apollo play as an opener...
Too bad I am on the other side of the country.Too bad I am on the other side of the World :P
Hope James actually writes lyrics and vocal melodies this time. For albums that have his name on them, he sure doesn't do much on them except sing. I realize he considers his "solo" effort to be a "band," but the least he could do if he's going to use his name is actually play more of a role than he does with DT. :lol
To be honest, I don't understand the point of JLB having a band with his name if it isn't really a solo project that he's driving from a creative standpoint. I mean, if he just wants to sing, then don't call it your name. Choose a band name.
It's clear that Matt is the main writer. He's also working on a solo album and he posted a demo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3huUvJWJTo) that sounds very similar to the JLB albums.
I wish James got more involved on the writing process as he's putting his name on it, but I guess its Matt's way to get his music to much more people (under James' name) instead of just releasing them under his own name, because he's not a big, famous name in the genere, and James is.
It's clear that Matt is the main writer. He's also working on a solo album and he posted a demo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3huUvJWJTo) that sounds very similar to the JLB albums.
I wish James got more involved on the writing process as he's putting his name on it, but I guess its Matt's way to get his music to much more people (under James' name) instead of just releasing them under his own name, because he's not a big, famous name in the genere, and James is.
James has essentially admitted that's why his name is on it.
It's clear that Matt is the main writer. He's also working on a solo album and he posted a demo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3huUvJWJTo) that sounds very similar to the JLB albums.
I wish James got more involved on the writing process as he's putting his name on it, but I guess its Matt's way to get his music to much more people (under James' name) instead of just releasing them under his own name, because he's not a big, famous name in the genere, and James is.
James has essentially admitted that's why his name is on it.
Seriously? I never thought he would say that :eek
The Muzzmuzzler albums are awesome. These last few..not so much.
It's clear that Matt is the main writer. He's also working on a solo album and he posted a demo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3huUvJWJTo) that sounds very similar to the JLB albums.
I wish James got more involved on the writing process as he's putting his name on it, but I guess its Matt's way to get his music to much more people (under James' name) instead of just releasing them under his own name, because he's not a big, famous name in the genere, and James is.
James has essentially admitted that's why his name is on it.
Seriously? I never thought he would say that :eek
Spun both SI and IR in the car this week, still some of the best metal I've heard for a long time, great stuff.:2metal:
Spun both SI and IR in the car this week, still some of the best metal I've heard for a long time, great stuff.:2metal:
I've said it 1000 times, I hope they change things up a good amount on the next album. I love the last 2 (and the others before it) but this specific style/formula has run its course. Time to try new things.
I've said it 1000 times, I hope they change things up a good amount on the next album. I love the last 2 (and the others before it) but this specific style/formula has run its course. Time to try new things.
I agree. It would be nice to hear some more variety. SI and IR sound pretty much the same (they're great, just too similar).
...and perhaps James will actually write most of the lyrics and vocal melodies this time.
It drives me batty that while it is a band, it IS his name, and all he basically does is lend his voice to it. I want to hear what James wants to sing about, and his melodic choices.
...and perhaps James will actually write most of the lyrics and vocal melodies this time.
It drives me batty that while it is a band, it IS his name, and all he basically does is lend his voice to it. I want to hear what James wants to sing about, and his melodic choices.
Hopefully there's more of that on the next DT album too!
...and perhaps James will actually write most of the lyrics and vocal melodies this time.
It drives me batty that while it is a band, it IS his name, and all he basically does is lend his voice to it. I want to hear what James wants to sing about, and his melodic choices.
Hopefully there's more of that on the next DT album too!
I've never understood why LaBrie doesn't write more lyrics in Dream Theater. I wonder what he thinks about that?
Also, no surprise that whichever guitar player LaBrie works with on his solo albums is writing all the music. LaBrie doesn't play any instruments as far as I know.
...and perhaps James will actually write most of the lyrics and vocal melodies this time.
It drives me batty that while it is a band, it IS his name, and all he basically does is lend his voice to it. I want to hear what James wants to sing about, and his melodic choices.
Hopefully there's more of that on the next DT album too!
I've never understood why LaBrie doesn't write more lyrics in Dream Theater. I wonder what he thinks about that?
Also, no surprise that whichever guitar player LaBrie works with on his solo albums is writing all the music. LaBrie doesn't play any instruments as far as I know.
...and perhaps James will actually write most of the lyrics and vocal melodies this time.
It drives me batty that while it is a band, it IS his name, and all he basically does is lend his voice to it. I want to hear what James wants to sing about, and his melodic choices.
Hopefully there's more of that on the next DT album too!
I've never understood why LaBrie doesn't write more lyrics in Dream Theater. I wonder what he thinks about that?
Also, no surprise that whichever guitar player LaBrie works with on his solo albums is writing all the music. LaBrie doesn't play any instruments as far as I know.
Maybe he doesn't want to? Not every musician is bursting at the seems with ideas they want to write. Sometimes they just love the act of performing. There's been some instances of him being told he can't write lyrics to a song here or there in DT, but I'm pretty sure in his solo band, the dude can do what he wants. So if he's not writing lyrics, he's probably not fighting terribly hard for it.
Also yea, as gazorpazorp said, it's the keyboard player who writes most of it. Though I know they have a co-writing guitar playing who (as far as I know) doesn't actually perform on the albums.
It's actually the keyboard player :biggrin:
Maybe he doesn't want to? Not every musician is bursting at the seems with ideas they want to write. Sometimes they just love the act of performing. There's been some instances of him being told he can't write lyrics to a song here or there in DT, but I'm pretty sure in his solo band, the dude can do what he wants. So if he's not writing lyrics, he's probably not fighting terribly hard for it.
I think Wichers made a big contribution to the album. It seems like it has that Soilwork formula.
Maybe he doesn't want to? Not every musician is bursting at the seems with ideas they want to write. Sometimes they just love the act of performing. There's been some instances of him being told he can't write lyrics to a song here or there in DT, but I'm pretty sure in his solo band, the dude can do what he wants. So if he's not writing lyrics, he's probably not fighting terribly hard for it.
I always had the impression that LaBrie kind of wasn't allowed to write a lot of lyrics because he's never (or very rarely?) involved in the song writing process and the lyrics and vocal melodies are already written when he comes into the studio to start recording vocals. However, I have no real evidence of this. I didn't mean to imply that he should write lyrics. If LaBrie chooses not to then that's cool.
The only person I know who was kind of 'shut down' from writing lyrics was John Myung in Dream Theater but yeah I don't think James was ever prohibited from writing anything or told that his lyrics were 'too hard to write music around' :lol
The only person I know who was kind of 'shut down' from writing lyrics was John Myung in Dream Theater but yeah I don't think James was ever prohibited from writing anything or told that his lyrics were 'too hard to write music around' :lol
There was one album (I think ADToE) where James said he submitted lyrics for 3 songs, but they weren't used.
Personally, with as good as the Mullmuzzler/JLB albums have been, I'm not going to question how they divide the songwriting.
Maybe he doesn't want to? Not every musician is bursting at the seems with ideas they want to write. Sometimes they just love the act of performing. There's been some instances of him being told he can't write lyrics to a song here or there in DT, but I'm pretty sure in his solo band, the dude can do what he wants. So if he's not writing lyrics, he's probably not fighting terribly hard for it.
I always had the impression that LaBrie kind of wasn't allowed to write a lot of lyrics because he's never (or very rarely?) involved in the song writing process and the lyrics and vocal melodies are already written when he comes into the studio to start recording vocals. However, I have no real evidence of this. I didn't mean to imply that he should write lyrics. If LaBrie chooses not to then that's cool.
No, it's not really a question of "allowed to" or not. James is perfectly welcome to write lyrics. I honestly think that if he came into the writing sessions with a bunch of ideas and said, "Hey, I have a lot of lyrical ideas that I think would be great for 8 of the 10 new songs on our new album," JP and the others would likely react along the lines of, "Great! Have at it!"
Maybe he doesn't want to? Not every musician is bursting at the seems with ideas they want to write. Sometimes they just love the act of performing. There's been some instances of him being told he can't write lyrics to a song here or there in DT, but I'm pretty sure in his solo band, the dude can do what he wants. So if he's not writing lyrics, he's probably not fighting terribly hard for it.
I always had the impression that LaBrie kind of wasn't allowed to write a lot of lyrics because he's never (or very rarely?) involved in the song writing process and the lyrics and vocal melodies are already written when he comes into the studio to start recording vocals. However, I have no real evidence of this. I didn't mean to imply that he should write lyrics. If LaBrie chooses not to then that's cool.
No, it's not really a question of "allowed to" or not. James is perfectly welcome to write lyrics. I honestly think that if he came into the writing sessions with a bunch of ideas and said, "Hey, I have a lot of lyrical ideas that I think would be great for 8 of the 10 new songs on our new album," JP and the others would likely react along the lines of, "Great! Have at it!"
I doubt it, personally. I think JP is much more of a control freak than one might think because he is always relatively quiet and humble sounding. I mean, when you have written the majority of the lyrics for every release, have also been the main songwriter and producer, I doubt youd be willing to give up that much creativity.
I don't know, I think it was ADTOE where JLB said he had lyrics for a few different songs but JP chose to go with his own ideas over JLB's and I remember he seemed frustrated in that interview. It was either ADTOE or DT, but I think it was the latter because he was happy with Far From Heaven, but felt he had more to add and would be more vocal the next time about letting his ideas be known.I remember he didn't write lyrics for DT12, because he'd just finished Impermanent Resonance and already felt fulfilled creatively.
I remember that as well.I don't know, I think it was ADTOE where JLB said he had lyrics for a few different songs but JP chose to go with his own ideas over JLB's and I remember he seemed frustrated in that interview. It was either ADTOE or DT, but I think it was the latter because he was happy with Far From Heaven, but felt he had more to add and would be more vocal the next time about letting his ideas be known.I remember he didn't write lyrics for DT12, because he'd just finished Impermanent Resonance and already felt fulfilled creatively.
I remember that as well.I don't know, I think it was ADTOE where JLB said he had lyrics for a few different songs but JP chose to go with his own ideas over JLB's and I remember he seemed frustrated in that interview. It was either ADTOE or DT, but I think it was the latter because he was happy with Far From Heaven, but felt he had more to add and would be more vocal the next time about letting his ideas be known.I remember he didn't write lyrics for DT12, because he'd just finished Impermanent Resonance and already felt fulfilled creatively.
Maybe he doesn't want to? Not every musician is bursting at the seems with ideas they want to write. Sometimes they just love the act of performing. There's been some instances of him being told he can't write lyrics to a song here or there in DT, but I'm pretty sure in his solo band, the dude can do what he wants. So if he's not writing lyrics, he's probably not fighting terribly hard for it.
I always had the impression that LaBrie kind of wasn't allowed to write a lot of lyrics because he's never (or very rarely?) involved in the song writing process and the lyrics and vocal melodies are already written when he comes into the studio to start recording vocals. However, I have no real evidence of this. I didn't mean to imply that he should write lyrics. If LaBrie chooses not to then that's cool.
No, it's not really a question of "allowed to" or not. James is perfectly welcome to write lyrics. I honestly think that if he came into the writing sessions with a bunch of ideas and said, "Hey, I have a lot of lyrical ideas that I think would be great for 8 of the 10 new songs on our new album," JP and the others would likely react along the lines of, "Great! Have at it!"
I doubt it, personally. I think JP is much more of a control freak than one might think because he is always relatively quiet and humble sounding. I mean, when you have written the majority of the lyrics for every release, have also been the main songwriter and producer, I doubt youd be willing to give up that much creativity.
Maybe he doesn't want to? Not every musician is bursting at the seems with ideas they want to write. Sometimes they just love the act of performing. There's been some instances of him being told he can't write lyrics to a song here or there in DT, but I'm pretty sure in his solo band, the dude can do what he wants. So if he's not writing lyrics, he's probably not fighting terribly hard for it.
I always had the impression that LaBrie kind of wasn't allowed to write a lot of lyrics because he's never (or very rarely?) involved in the song writing process and the lyrics and vocal melodies are already written when he comes into the studio to start recording vocals. However, I have no real evidence of this. I didn't mean to imply that he should write lyrics. If LaBrie chooses not to then that's cool.
No, it's not really a question of "allowed to" or not. James is perfectly welcome to write lyrics. I honestly think that if he came into the writing sessions with a bunch of ideas and said, "Hey, I have a lot of lyrical ideas that I think would be great for 8 of the 10 new songs on our new album," JP and the others would likely react along the lines of, "Great! Have at it!"
I doubt it, personally. I think JP is much more of a control freak than one might think because he is always relatively quiet and humble sounding. I mean, when you have written the majority of the lyrics for every release, have also been the main songwriter and producer, I doubt youd be willing to give up that much creativity.
Oh, he definitely is a "control freak" of sorts. When you talk to him, he makes no bones about it. But that said, he is also VERY open to others' ideas and input, and I have gotten that not only from several conversations with him, but with others in the band as well. It kind of depends on the issue. For example, on the issue of having Jordan take up guitar on a song here or there, JP is pretty inflexible and doesn't want that in the band. If Jordan ever really wanted to and pushed hard for it, might he reconsider? Perhaps. But as it stands now, he has been pretty clear that he is dead set against it. But then take the recording of the vocals for ADTOE. He wanted everyone together in studio. But James wanted to record the vocals alone in Canada. JP gave him the complete green light to do that. The one exception was the vocals for BTS, because he felt very strongly about how the delivery should go, so he took a trip up there to give input on that one. But otherwise, he deferred to James.
How would that translate to lyric writing? Obviously, none of us know for sure. But given what I know of how the guys work and what they have said to me on other topics, I still strongly believe that James (or anyone else in the band) could take a much larger role if they wanted to. I mean, I doubt any one person would write the vast majority of lyrics on an album because JP likes doing it and wouldn't completely step back (I was exaggerating when I said 8-10 songs). But I really don't think he would have any problem with James taking an expanded role if James strongly felt he had more lyrics he wanted to contribute.
Maybe he doesn't want to? Not every musician is bursting at the seems with ideas they want to write. Sometimes they just love the act of performing. There's been some instances of him being told he can't write lyrics to a song here or there in DT, but I'm pretty sure in his solo band, the dude can do what he wants. So if he's not writing lyrics, he's probably not fighting terribly hard for it.
I always had the impression that LaBrie kind of wasn't allowed to write a lot of lyrics because he's never (or very rarely?) involved in the song writing process and the lyrics and vocal melodies are already written when he comes into the studio to start recording vocals. However, I have no real evidence of this. I didn't mean to imply that he should write lyrics. If LaBrie chooses not to then that's cool.
No, it's not really a question of "allowed to" or not. James is perfectly welcome to write lyrics. I honestly think that if he came into the writing sessions with a bunch of ideas and said, "Hey, I have a lot of lyrical ideas that I think would be great for 8 of the 10 new songs on our new album," JP and the others would likely react along the lines of, "Great! Have at it!"
I doubt it, personally. I think JP is much more of a control freak than one might think because he is always relatively quiet and humble sounding. I mean, when you have written the majority of the lyrics for every release, have also been the main songwriter and producer, I doubt youd be willing to give up that much creativity.
Oh, he definitely is a "control freak" of sorts. When you talk to him, he makes no bones about it. But that said, he is also VERY open to others' ideas and input, and I have gotten that not only from several conversations with him, but with others in the band as well. It kind of depends on the issue. For example, on the issue of having Jordan take up guitar on a song here or there, JP is pretty inflexible and doesn't want that in the band. If Jordan ever really wanted to and pushed hard for it, might he reconsider? Perhaps. But as it stands now, he has been pretty clear that he is dead set against it. But then take the recording of the vocals for ADTOE. He wanted everyone together in studio. But James wanted to record the vocals alone in Canada. JP gave him the complete green light to do that. The one exception was the vocals for BTS, because he felt very strongly about how the delivery should go, so he took a trip up there to give input on that one. But otherwise, he deferred to James.
How would that translate to lyric writing? Obviously, none of us know for sure. But given what I know of how the guys work and what they have said to me on other topics, I still strongly believe that James (or anyone else in the band) could take a much larger role if they wanted to. I mean, I doubt any one person would write the vast majority of lyrics on an album because JP likes doing it and wouldn't completely step back (I was exaggerating when I said 8-10 songs). But I really don't think he would have any problem with James taking an expanded role if James strongly felt he had more lyrics he wanted to contribute.
Yeah, that's the same impression I get when I listen to JP or James' interviews. I think JP does great with the lyric writing, but I'd love to have JM and JLB lyrics on a few songs on DT14.
...but I am a little suspicious of ADTOE and LaBrie having a few lyrics rejected (were they just not good enough, did JP just have a burst of inspiration and overruled James?).
...but I am a little suspicious of ADTOE and LaBrie having a few lyrics rejected (were they just not good enough, did JP just have a burst of inspiration and overruled James?).
Speculation on my part, but based on how I understand how they work in general, I assume it was much more along the lines of--James had some lyrics and John had some lyrics, and James either didn't feel strongly enough to push or felt that John's were worked up more (either more complete, or had a more complete vocal melody with them, or something). And not--James had some lyrics and submitted them, and John disregarded his input and did what he wanted. But the thing is, it's all subjective too, right? I mean, John may feel it was the former because (hypothetically) James didn't speak up and say "hey, I really want to do this song," and James may feel it was the latter because he generally would rather not speak up and make an issue out of something unless he REALLY feels strongly about it.
I will again come back to the fact that we just don't know. So I would just be careful about reading too much into it and assuming "the worst." But I'm just offering my perspective on the discussion, and not really strongly disagreeing or trying to shout you down or anything.
That came up shortly after it was learned that Jordan also plays guitar. JR playing rhythm guitar behind JP's solos or even dual leads could be cool, but JP nixed that idea right away. Dream Theater has one guitarist; none of that "gay Winger shit".
That came up shortly after it was learned that Jordan also plays guitar. JR playing rhythm guitar behind JP's solos or even dual leads could be cool, but JP nixed that idea right away. Dream Theater has one guitarist; none of that "gay Winger shit".
That came up shortly after it was learned that Jordan also plays guitar. JR playing rhythm guitar behind JP's solos or even dual leads could be cool, but JP nixed that idea right away. Dream Theater has one guitarist; none of that "gay Winger shit".
Listening to EoP right now and this still far and away my favorite JLB Solo album. Looking forward to the new record!
Matt's solo album seems to sound really much like JLB solo albums but I like the new single!
New video for Matt's single
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFrvZdMjVW8
New video for Matt's single
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFrvZdMjVW8
It's kind of hard to see the point of this. Put in on IR and replace Matt's voice with James and no one would know.
New video for Matt's single
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFrvZdMjVW8
It's kind of hard to see the point of this. Put in on IR and replace Matt's voice with James and no one would know.
Maybe the point is to keep making music and not basing it on JLB's availability?
New video for Matt's singleI dig it, it's like a softer version of JLB's material, a la "Euphoric" or "Unraveling". Weird that they hired the guy from Amaranthe to do the Harsh vocals when you already have Peter Wildoer there, but I don't dislike it at all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFrvZdMjVW8
New video for Matt's single
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFrvZdMjVW8
It was alright. Pretty "straight from the factory" if that makes sense.
^^ Funny thing about that. The first thing I see under the suggestions of the Matt Guillory's Inside song is "The Dark Element - "The Ghost And The Reaper"" video from Frontier Music srl. Should I watch that?
As for Inside, I like it!!! Chorus sounds like something I would enjoy a lot. If he wants to do something while JLB is doing DT stuff, and it happens to sound something similar to JLB solo, I say let him.
It was alright. Pretty "straight from the factory" if that makes sense.
The Frontiers factory would be happy to claim this song as their own.
It was alright. Pretty "straight from the factory" if that makes sense.
The Frontiers factory would be happy to claim this song as their own.
Not with those growlies they wouldn’t 😀
Was there a solo? I missed it if 5here was...
James LaBrie cancels ProgPower USA performance
Message from LaBrie's management:
As many of you are no doubt aware, James LaBrie of Dream Theater has been scheduled to perform at this year’s ProgPower Festival among many other incredible artists. While James and his band had been looking forward to this live appearance and performances of James’ solo material for many, many months, circumstances have forced the band to have to pull out of this year’s festival. The entire band regretfully makes this decision to officially cancel the appearance after several weeks of making every effort to try and maintain the scheduling as anticipated. Unfortunately in this case, James LaBrie’s responsibilities to Dream Theater and his bandmates are of the utmost importance, and this will be a critical period of writing in studio for the next Dream Theater record. James wishes to thank all of his fans who were looking forward to this appearance and supported this upcoming live solo band performance at ProgPower. The entire James LaBrie band is deeply apologetic to all those eagerly anticipating the show, and the band looks forward to making this historic live appearance happen in the future.
I think it's a dick move on James/mgmt part - considering he's been promoted for 8 months as the head-fucking-liner, but it is a bit more than just showing up Saturday night at PPUSA - rehearsals and shit. Not knowing the background, I gotta think it's a dick move by Petrucci and the band/label to not be flexible with whatever the writing/studio plans are for the time leading up to PPUSA.
James/mgmt could've been more forceful "sorry, I've committed to PPUSA". What are Petrucci/Inside Out gonna do? Fire him?
I hope PPUSA had a solid cancellation clause.
Oh, it’s definitely much more than that, but I still don’t get it. It’s not like he’s taking 6 months off to tour with his solo band, it’s probably just going to take him a week or two. If he’s been billed as the headliner for months and then, suddenly, has to cancel because (as it seems) DT can’t let PP borrow him for a few days, the fans are going to be really pissed, as they all know James isn’t really the biggest creative force in DT, so it wouldn’t hurt to not have him around for a week or two.
Doesn’t JP have a guitar camp coming around the same time they’re supposed to be in the studio? Is he going to cancel that as well?
Not trying to get all whiney, btw, I’m actually glad DT14 is their main priority now, but I just don’t think the explanation they gave is the best, and this really hurts James’ solo band image, as this isn’t the first time they’ve cancelled a show/tour.
Well, it's not just playing the concert, they have to rehearse, decide the setlist (I assume he would have more than a hand in deciding on which songs to play), work around the permits if needed (is Marco Sfogli still around?) and so on... playing a concert is a bit more complicated than "Ok guys, I'll take the weekend off to sing 90 minutes at a festival, see you on Monday".Well, he did the Theater Equation production with Ayreon while TA was still in the works, and that must've taken plenty of preparation too.
Still, I assumed the timeframe for the work on the new DT album was planned well in advance and that's precisely the reason why James did this... maybe the switch to Inside Out changed things...
I'm wondering if maybe it's a situation where it didn't make sense for the band to do PP unless they were going to tour around it, and DT's writing sessions are blocking a tour rather than just the festival specifically.
As someone who is already booked to attend PPUSA this September, I am really really pissed. His band was one of the main reasons to go, especially as headliners. This does not sit well with me, and honestly, makes me mad at Dream Theater too. Since the excuse references DT's new album, I am annoyed that they may have forced their hand here (while JP and JR are out doing their own tours). I know JLB had wanted to try to base a full tour around this date and maybe that fell apart as well. JLB shares the blame too, if it was about practice and rehearsals, they should have worked a schedule to get that resolved and worked with DT management to make the scheduling work. I feel bad for Glen at PPUSA. He has bands cancel fairly often, usually for visa issues. I'm not sure they've had a headliner cancel nor with it being from a real good excuse (IMO). Given how far out PP is booked. I can't see how they would do this to the fans. Sadly, as someone who really wanted to see this, I'm not ever sure how PP can book a headliner type replacement. I guess I'll be curious to see how they handle this.
I'm wondering if maybe it's a situation where it didn't make sense for the band to do PP unless they were going to tour around it, and DT's writing sessions are blocking a tour rather than just the festival specifically.
That seems plausible.
I'm wondering if maybe it's a situation where it didn't make sense for the band to do PP unless they were going to tour around it, and DT's writing sessions are blocking a tour rather than just the festival specifically.
That seems plausible.
Plausible, but that would be totally lame if it's the only reason.
Pretty sure all ticket sales are final unless there's some bizarre circumstance/fan backlash... I can see lots of people pawning their tickets off (more than usual) after this though
I'm not holding my breath but it'd be awesome if they got Helloween to play there since they're already touring for Pumpkins United around that time (I'm seeing them September 10th, immediately after PP). Threshold too but it's probably way way too late for visas and all that anyway. Meh.
As someone who is already booked to attend PPUSA this September, I am really really pissed. His band was one of the main reasons to go, especially as headliners. This does not sit well with me, and honestly, makes me mad at Dream Theater too. Since the excuse references DT's new album, I am annoyed that they may have forced their hand here (while JP and JR are out doing their own tours). I know JLB had wanted to try to base a full tour around this date and maybe that fell apart as well. JLB shares the blame too, if it was about practice and rehearsals, they should have worked a schedule to get that resolved and worked with DT management to make the scheduling work. I feel bad for Glen at PPUSA. He has bands cancel fairly often, usually for visa issues. I'm not sure they've had a headliner cancel nor with it being from a real good excuse (IMO). Given how far out PP is booked. I can't see how they would do this to the fans. Sadly, as someone who really wanted to see this, I'm not ever sure how PP can book a headliner type replacement. I guess I'll be curious to see how they handle this.
I know one IQ member is deathly afraid of flying...
I'm wondering if maybe it's a situation where it didn't make sense for the band to do PP unless they were going to tour around it, and DT's writing sessions are blocking a tour rather than just the festival specifically.
I'm wondering if maybe it's a situation where it didn't make sense for the band to do PP unless they were going to tour around it, and DT's writing sessions are blocking a tour rather than just the festival specifically.
That seems plausible.
Plausible, but that would be totally lame if it's the only reason.
I do feel like it is likely one of the reasons, but not the only one. It is getting really hard to tour in the U.S. as a headline club act. Let's face it...JLB would be lucky to draw 150 people to his shows. Most of these theoretical shows would operate at a loss, which is not something I think JLB wants to do. Sure, he'll get whatever money he and the band get from Prog Power, but there's no way to stay in the black on a JLB solo tour. If I remember right, the last time he toured the U.S., the shows barely had anyone attend. That's likely not going to improve now, considering his solo band has been on the shelf all these years from the road.
I feel really bad for those that booked ProgPower on the basis of seeing JLB's performance. That sucks. But there must be a big conflict with Dream Theater during that time frame for them not to work with James' schedule. Perhaps they are in talks to do shows around then as an "escape from the studio" tour, and it'll require James being there. Who knows.
Will PPUSA refund tickets due to cancellations, or are they final, regardless of what happens to the acts?
From everything I've seen, and from the large group of mutual friends I have that regularly attend ppusa, they definitely sway more to the power side of prog power. Also, I know one IQ member is deathly afraid of flying, and not sure of they'd be willing to make two trips over the pond in that short amount of time. That's one of the main reasons they don't play this continent much.
James' most recent live shows...
From Brazil with local band (I guess ?!!) Noturnall.
Through Her Eyes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuOazRckUFE
Jekyll or Hyde (From his solo album): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEiVEhjUneA
Pull Me Under: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RCAZc70dRE (No comment though) :mehlin
Now if on the next DT tour James won't have an entrance like that, I will be severly disappointed.
Now if on the next DT tour James won't have an entrance like that, I will be severly disappointed.
Now if on the next DT tour James won't have an entrance like that, I will be severly disappointed.
Haha, I love how the "real" singer just strolls on stage and actually starts the vocal part. :)
I just find a true gem from EoP solo tour.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er9PLANZzSI
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"Matt [Guillory] and I just started speaking. We thought over a year and a half ago [that] we were going to start writing material for the follow-up to Impermanent Resonance. Matt's a very busy guy — he lives out in California [and] I'm up in Canada, and the schedules just didn't dictate us getting together and starting to put the material together. But we did speak a few weeks ago, so we're hoping that we can start to finally put some music together. Hopefully there will be something, maybe, I'm thinking late 2020."
I really do like JLB's solo music, I'm excited for what they may have in store but I do still feel a bit sour for him cancelling ProgPower. SOA saved the day and all, but his handling of it just rubs me the wrong way. Makes me a bit less excited than I otherwise would be. Like I said, I am still excited overall though and do look forward to checking out what they have next year.
Jesus, has it really been 9 years since Static Impulse? Times flies. I really loved that album, it came out in a time of transition for me, changing high schools and having to meet new people and stuff (sounds melodramatic, I know, but at the time it was nerve-wracking). I just remember it came out about 4 weeks in and every day after school, I looked forward to getting back in my car and listening to it on the drive home--the leaves were changing, it was just a really pretty time of year and the music kinda matched the leaves dying and such...
Anyways, I loved that album, Impermanent Resonance was okay. Really looking forward to what they come out with next!
I really do like JLB's solo music, I'm excited for what they may have in store but I do still feel a bit sour for him cancelling ProgPower. SOA saved the day and all, but his handling of it just rubs me the wrong way. Makes me a bit less excited than I otherwise would be. Like I said, I am still excited overall though and do look forward to checking out what they have next year.
So, you're saying it was him whom cancelled? Can't blame him for the odd schedule. As I now feel he never knew when DT would begin recording.
Oh, and Static Impulse never really did it for me. I prefer the Muzzmuzzler stuff. Maybe I should give it a another shot, especially now that I am far more tolerant of harsh vocals.
I wouldn't say "it's also fair" for JLB to cancel, and adding a little white lie to it doesn't make it better, just worse IMO.
Neither explanation makes sense to me. I have a feeling there's stuff none of us knows about. I don't know that engaging in these rumors is really the best idea. But since it's out there, I feel doubtful of the PP side because of another incident.I'm thinking along these lines too. It's possible that James also kinda misunderstood the vibe of the festival and how/why passionate people buy tickets last minute because they want to see one special band on the lineup. Looking at it with unfamiliar eyes, it seems that bands shuffle in and out of that lineup and no one thinks it's a big deal. But because cancellations happen because of visa issues and other unforeseen circumstances, it's kinda crappy to cancel because of "regular reasons" like money or not being able to build a tour around it or whatever. Seeing how he leaked his performance so far in advance, it would seem he didn't really know what he was getting into!
Years ago when Khan left Kamelot, there was an official generic statement from PP, since Kamelot was to perform that year. But then people involved with PP kind of dragged Khan's name through the mud. He pulled this at the last minute, he left them in the lurch, he screwed the festival over, he's just not a good guy, etc. I saw Thomas Youngblood not long after, and he, who probably had as much reason as anyone to be upset at Khan (and he was upset), said it didn't go down like that at all. He said he didn't want to go into the specifics, but he was uncomfortable with those rumors going around because they just weren't true. He said he'd heard from another band that didn't play that there were some issues behind the scenes there as well.
So... Who knows exactly what's true. Maybe it happened just like the rumors and James just decided out of the blue that he needed more money months after he agreed to the original fee. Maybe it really was because of DT and the ProgPower people got pissed and started this rumor out of spite. I think it's more likely that neither are exactly true.
I think the whole solo project is low on the priority list. Maybe not quite as low as JP's next solo album... :)That's part of the thing I was getting at. Ever since the first album when they settled into something similar to the current lineup and toured a little, their statements were always about how they're very busy, but there WILL be a new album and there WILL be touring. The new album part always came true even if it took years, the tour part never did. If Matt is still lurking the thread, I'd like to forward a suggestion to him & the others to talk transparently about how difficult it proved for them to tour in the next interview cycle. Maybe it seems like I'm nitpicking, but if they don't, a lot of us are gonna end up feeling like cram:
It's just one of those things that he'll do when the timing is right and if something changes with DT, the solo project gets put on hold. Now it seems that Matt is busy with other things too, so it's more of a "we'll get to it when we get to it" type project.
Like I said, I'll check out the album, I really love his solo stuff. It's just hard to be excited for a band that doesn't share that excitement towards their fans.
I don't disagree with that, but at the end of the day, he agreed to something and pulled out. He could have made it work but didn't think it made sense anymore, maybe for monetary reasons maybe not, but regardless, he had agreed and had fans excited for this. That doesn't make it fair for him to cancel unless it's beyond his control and none of this sounded like it was. Yea, maybe not being able to make a full tour out of it meant doing that one show made no financial sense.... but you agreed. You got people excited. You sold tickets. Show up.
Slight change of topic, but I decided to re-listen to Impermanent resonance for the first time in years. There's a bunch of meh songs, but some of them grew on me. Lost in the fire has such a powerful chorus. :metal
Slight change of topic, but I decided to re-listen to Impermanent resonance for the first time in years. There's a bunch of meh songs, but some of them grew on me. Lost in the fire has such a powerful chorus. :metal
I posted it in the Xmas songs thread and no one noticed it :D
It's not the best song on the album but it's always nice to hear James doing what he does best! :metal
It's been quite the songwriting weekend marathon -- writing some of the strongest/catchiest vocal melodies I've written so far. Can't wait to hear James killing it on these songs.
So nice seeing Dream Theater live tonight. Awesome show! Had a great talk with James Labrie about the plans for our next album (but of course forgot to take a photo of us). But got a photo with the phenomenal Mike Mangini. Such a great guy!
It's funny that the older guy Dream Theater decided to get for a drummer looks like a younger guy. ;D
James posted that he is building a home studio now. Great news.:tup
James posted that he is building a home studio now. Great news.:tup
Your Eyes is my fave song off that Frameshift album. I'm a sucker for James singing harmonies with himself :rollin
La Mer is the best song on Unweaving the Rainbow imo. It's great.
Never heard of Frameshift or that album before. Might need to change that...
Wow, I totally forgot about Frameshift, got distracted and never ended up checking them out. Well, here we go...
I keep meaning to check out Frameshift, but never have. Will bump up the queue.Both albums are really good and different from each other.
This would be a great time for James to lay down some vocals for the new solo album. I so wish they were making a new one at the moment.
The studio is at the point now where I can use it and record but I’m not showing you guys until it is completely done aesthetically!
https://www.instagram.com/p/CKw9JVogAzB/
Remember when a glimpse of a MIDI Track slipped into the 2013 making of videos and someone did like this huge mockup of what that in theory sounded like? lolhttps://www.instagram.com/p/CKw9JVogAzB/
Can somebody zoom in on those lyrics?!
Remember when a glimpse of a MIDI Track slipped into the 2013 making of videos and someone did like this huge mockup of what that in theory sounded like? lolhttps://www.instagram.com/p/CKw9JVogAzB/
Can somebody zoom in on those lyrics?!
Man, he's looking old.
He would look cool on the stage with his current/real hair color. White hair in the right person looks badass.
He would look cool on the stage with his current/real hair color. White hair in the right person looks badass.
Agreed; I think the black hair dye more often than not makes one look tired and drawn and pale. Think of basically any of the 80's hair metal Hollywood vampires now. :)
I'd trade my bald spot for any fucking colour truthfully haha.
I'd trade my bald spot for any fucking colour truthfully haha.
Tracklist:
1. The Enigma Birth feat. PelleK
2. I Just Collapse feat. Caterina Nix and Chaos Magic
3. Memories feat. Caterina Nix, Brittney Slayes
4. Master Of Hell feat. Raphael Mendes
5. Beautiful Lie feat. James Labrie
6. Truth feat. Jake E
7. Another Day feat. Marina La Torraca
8. Beauty And War feat. Raphael Mendes
9. Dreaming feat. Fabio Lione
10. The Fire And The Sinner feat. Jake E, Brittney Slayes
11. Time feat. Marina La Torraca
12. Without Fear feat. Fabio Lione
Raphael Mendes aka Bruce Dickinson!
Probably an unpopular opinion, but I would like to hear JLB do something outside of the metal or prog metal sphere. I like that first album (Mulmuzzler) he did, was a cool, really eclectic mix, then his discography sort of fell into the prog/tech metal thing. It always feels safe.
Probably an unpopular opinion, but I would like to hear JLB do something outside of the metal or prog metal sphere. I like that first album (Mulmuzzler) he did, was a cool, really eclectic mix, then his discography sort of fell into the prog/tech metal thing. It always feels safe.
Well, OK, an acoustic album can be good. JLB's vocals are very suited for softer songs.
Acoustic albums by rock artists often come off as "look, I'm only playing an acoustic guitar, so different!" yet the music is essentially the same, just not electric. I assume an artist like JLB with his background, would not just be playing acoustic DT/JLB solo music.
I want to see JLB to do something in the veins of a Broadway/Musical (something in the veins of The Greatest Showman movie, not the Astonishing) Soundtrack. I think he can make it work given his efforts on The Theater Equation DVD.
Check out Frameshift Unweaving the Rainbow. While it is not a musical, he sings in very different styles.
I wonder when it will come out, surely they won't want this and DT15 to step on each other's toes.... maybe this album in August and DT15 in September / early October? if it doesn't come out before DT15, I would assume it would been pushed at least around Xmas, if not early 2022....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=460AU9mYhiU
James' son band FALSET featuring James LaBrie - Kickstart My Heart ( Mötley Crüe Cover)
Fun tune, nice job by JLB. Nice to see him just do something fun. All the Dream Theater stuff, and the crazy operatic notes that are expected from him have to get tedious. It was cool listening to him just have a go and sing something fun.
For me, this has the same vibe of 'Viper King,' which was a personal highlight on D/T.
For me, this has the same vibe of 'Viper King,' which was a personal highlight on D/T.I thought the same exact thing.
I would love to see more B-sides, covers, etc..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=460AU9mYhiU
James' son band FALSET featuring James LaBrie - Kickstart My Heart ( Mötley Crüe Cover)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=460AU9mYhiU
James' son band FALSET featuring James LaBrie - Kickstart My Heart ( Mötley Crüe Cover)
I would never have guessed this was JLB singing if the video didn't say it was him. I wasn't sure it was actually him once the song started.
Is there anyone else who thinks the Mullmuzzler albums are the best of James’s solo career?I don't know if I like these two more than Elements Of Persuasion, but I definitely love his first three solo albums.
Maybe it’s just me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=460AU9mYhiU
James' son band FALSET featuring James LaBrie - Kickstart My Heart ( Mötley Crüe Cover)
I would never have guessed this was JLB singing if the video didn't say it was him. I wasn't sure it was actually him once the song started.
Agreed—they were trading off lines.
I don’t think that was. I think the band has a singer. James was (to my ears) doing some of the vocals. Not all of them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=460AU9mYhiU
James' son band FALSET featuring James LaBrie - Kickstart My Heart ( Mötley Crüe Cover)
I would never have guessed this was JLB singing if the video didn't say it was him. I wasn't sure it was actually him once the song started.
I don’t think that was. I think the band has a singer. James was (to my ears) doing some of the vocals. Not all of them.
Same here, had a hard time figuring out if it was all James, half James or no James.
And speaking about the Mullmuzzler... yes, nothing against the latest two - let's consider Elements of Persuasion a bridge between the first two and the last two - but those Mullmuzzler albums were one of a kind and full of great songs, it was the style best suited for him.
Is there anyone else who thinks the Mullmuzzler albums are the best of James’s solo career?
Maybe it’s just me.
Is there anyone else who thinks the Mullmuzzler albums are the best of James’s solo career?
Maybe it’s just me.
I'm a bit picky about production so I don't think so. At least, from the first one, given that's the one I listened to most recently. It's weird, given that other albums Terry Brown mixed tend to sound way more polished. I also think the material is... hit and miss, to say the least. To me, Beelzebubba is possibly the worst song James has ever sang on and a lot of the longer tracks don't seem like they deserve their length. The following albums may have been more uniform in style but at least they were more refined.
I'm in the same boat. The first MM was a bit spotty - I agree with whoever said that Beelzebubba is the worst track. But I'm not a fan of Trent Gardner's work in the first place, so I guess that's no surprise (altho I didn't mind As a Man Thinks or the track on MM2 as much). But I like the other tracks and Elements of Persuasion was great pretty much all the way through. Tried his fourth album, but the cookie monster vocals ruined it for me, even if only on half the tracks, and I never even bothered with his last album.Is there anyone else who thinks the Mullmuzzler albums are the best of James’s solo career?I don't know if I like these two more than Elements Of Persuasion, but I definitely love his first three solo albums.
Maybe it’s just me.
I take the Mullmuzzler albums all day long over anything that came after them.Don't you like Elements of Persuasion?
I think I want to wait for something like that. I’d like to get a little more under my belt with Dream Theater and then branch out when we take a little hiatus later on in our careers. I think at that point, I’d like to be able to use the fact that I’ll be hopefully better known, and be able to get the better players.
It’s kind of wacky, but at this point, the kind of album I would like to do has a lot to do with what I’m listening to right now. I mentioned Gino Vanelli, but I’ve been listening to a lot of Sting as well, and George Michael. Basically, I think it would be on the complete other end of the spectrum. If I were to do a solo album, it probably wouldn’t have much to do with Dream Theater. Even though Dream Theater incorporated a lot of different styles of music and writing. I would like to do more of the pop type thing.
Is there anyone else who thinks the Mullmuzzler albums are the best of James’s solo career?
Maybe it’s just me.
I take the Mullmuzzler albums all day long over anything that came after them.Don't you like Elements of Persuasion?
I tried to like those Mullmuzzler albums, but just don't. Been ages since I gave them a listen, maybe will give them another chance. I loved EoP from the first listen, and highly enjoy the last two offerings.
I tried to like those Mullmuzzler albums, but just don't. Been ages since I gave them a listen, maybe will give them another chance. I loved EoP from the first listen, and highly enjoy the last two offerings.
This is how I feel. I can't get into Mullmuzzler the couple times I tried many years ago. I don't think it's for me, but I love his latest two releases. I probably rate SI a bit higher than EOP but those are my two favorites from JLB.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=460AU9mYhiU
James' son band FALSET featuring James LaBrie - Kickstart My Heart ( Mötley Crüe Cover)
Jeez...this is pretty amazing. I honestly can't wait for the new DT...James sounds in top form.
Finally James made his return to glam! Now for a Winter Rose reunion...I'm kind of serious.Dude, same.
Would anyone happen to know when James LaBrie's new solo album is coming out?
From this new interview in Turkish posted on the DT15 thread: the new JLB solo album will be called "Beautiful Shade of Grey" and will probably be released in April or May 22.https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56813.0
http://www.pasifagresif.com/2021/09/dream-theater-roportaj/
From this new interview in Turkish posted on the DT15 thread: the new JLB solo album will be called "Beautiful Shade of Grey" and will probably be released in April or May 22.https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56813.0
http://www.pasifagresif.com/2021/09/dream-theater-roportaj/
That sounds amazing: https://twitter.com/jameslabrie/status/1504089026541797379
There is a snippet on Twitter btw.
Nothing that special to my ears based on that, but I'll check it out.
Nothing that special to my ears based on that, but I'll check it out.
Much smoother. :lol
I always wanted DT to hire Matt Guillory so they both work on the melodies in DT. IIRC Matt did the majority of the writing and then JLB adjusted things he didn't like or improved in other ways. But they worked great on all the albums they worked together.Matt is not in JLB lineup anymore iirc? I know he was main writing force on 3 previous albums but I still hope the new one will be as good as those.
Why did I think this was an all acoustic album? Is that something else?
I listen Devil in Drag and there is so much Mullmuzzler (Especially Confronting The Devil) and EoP vibes vocally and musically which I like.I thought that too, had some MM vibes. Went back and listened to Confronting the Devil, what a great song still. Gary Wehrkamp / Carl Cadden James really know how to write good songs.
Good tune.
"Devil in Drag", what kind of title is that!?He's participated in songs titled "Octavarium" and "Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence" and you're goofing on THIS song?
JLB peaked with the track "Slightly out of Reach" from the "Elements of Persuasion" album. Simply a brilliant song.
"Devil in Drag", what kind of title is that!? :lol Of course I'll check it out when it's released.
I don’t know if this is a hot take or not but James sounds better with Matt Guillory then he does with DT.
That cover art... :lol
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/dramatic-crossroads
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/036/770/cover1.jpg)
I don’t know if this is a hot take or not but James sounds better with Matt Guillory then he does with DT.
I don’t know if this is a hot take or not but James sounds better with Matt Guillory then he does with DT.I thought the same thing. I liked the tune.
I don’t know if this is a hot take or not but James sounds better with Matt Guillory then he does with DT.I thought the same thing. I liked the tune.
James didn't work with Matt for the upcoming album.
One listen in, and it sounded good. I really didn't like the last two albums much but love Elements of Persuasion and the Mullmuzzler albums, so I'm hoping I'll like this new one.
I must be the only one not impressed with the song at all.
Bummed that neither Matt Guillory nor Peter Wildoer are there anymore, specially Guillory who had been working with him since MullMuzzler. Does anybody know why he's no longer in the band? I'm a bit out of the loop.
It sounds groundbreaking to me in the sense that it remained acoustic throughout while keeping a bit of a harder edge. I love it! Exactly the direction I was hoping for
Ministro, there is no need to write Press Release at the start of your post. We get it. All of your posts are press releases.
Ministro, there is no need to write Press Release at the start of your post. We get it. All of your posts are press releases.
Ministro, there is no need to write Press Release at the start of your post. We get it. All of your posts are press releases.
Ministro, there is no need to write Press Release at the start of your post. We get it. All of your posts are press releases.
All kidding aside, I appreciate and respect the “two word” disclaimer—a writer giving credit (even to a press release) is a stand up move.
I don’t know if this is a hot take or not but James sounds better with Matt Guillory then he does with DT.This initially seems like a hot take but it makes a lot of sense, at least when comparing his solo work with DT's work after Systematic Chaos. JLB's solo material has always been more focused on melody, and the vocals are essential to its sound IMO. While DT pays a lot of attention to their vocal lines and they can be incredible when they want them to be, it's not their main focus; they can do fantastic pieces of music without vocals. And let's not forget to mention James' input into his own solo work.
Bummed that neither Matt Guillory nor Peter Wildoer are there anymore, specially Guillory who had been working with him since MullMuzzler. Does anybody know why he's no longer in the band? I'm a bit out of the loop.
I'm not sure anyone knows what happened. My guess, when JLB cancelled his ProgPower headlining performance to put his focus on DT, it also delayed what I thought was those two were working together for another album and Matt likely just didn't want to work on JLB's schedule. Once again, just my guess.It sounds groundbreaking to me in the sense that it remained acoustic throughout while keeping a bit of a harder edge. I love it! Exactly the direction I was hoping for
Not sure it makes the song groundbreaking, but that's exactly why I was kind of surprised and also why I enjoyed it. Curious about the rest of the album now, more than I was before hearing the song.
Really strong chorus and amazing solo as well. Gotta love Marco.
Really strong chorus and amazing solo as well. Gotta love Marco.
Yeah.........liking the chorus and instrumental parts but I barely got there. The verses are pretty underwhelming IMO.
I must be the only one not impressed with the song at all.
I suspect I'm in the minority as I rank the first Mullmuzzler (along with parts of the second) as the high water mark for James' solo work. I mean, I 'like' EOP and the two follow-ups, but they honestly do little for me and I rarely revisit them.
Ministro, there is no need to write Press Release at the start of your post. We get it. All of your posts are press releases.
Really enjoyed the new song! The musical direction wasn't what I expected, it was a lot better :metal definitely not what I first thought of when they said "acoustic" album :lol
For those missing Matt and the style of the previous 2 JLB albums, he did release a bunch of songs with pretty much the same band/style under his own name the last couple years :tup
For those missing Matt and the style of the previous 2 JLB albums, he did release a bunch of songs with pretty much the same band/style under his own name the last couple years :tup
I don't know that I'd call it "a bunch". I think there were only 4 songs so far. All of which I like more than this new JLB song, unfortunately.
For those missing Matt and the style of the previous 2 JLB albums, he did release a bunch of songs with pretty much the same band/style under his own name the last couple years :tup
I don't know that I'd call it "a bunch". I think there were only 4 songs so far. All of which I like more than this new JLB song, unfortunately.
I just checked and there's 5 released so far, but he put out a teaser a couple years ago from others that aren't out yet. My guess is he has enough material for a full lenght album already, but hasn't been too active with that lately. The last one came out over a year ago already.
Really strong chorus and amazing solo as well. Gotta love Marco.
Yeah.........liking the chorus and instrumental parts but I barely got there. The verses are pretty underwhelming IMO.
Yep. The verses made me cringe a bit truthfully.
Well, I enjoyed the new song more than anything on AVFTTOTW,
Yeah, it was good, although I liked the first one better.
Excited for the album to drop.
So, the entire album is acoustic? ???No.
Its a beautiful song, with beautiful music. James sounds really good, and it gives me the feelies, which I like. In addition, I like how James
addresses political topics, without being divisive.
Yeah, it was good, although I liked the first one better.
Excited for the album to drop.
So, the entire album is acoustic? ???No.
I was lukewarm at best on the first single, thinking if that was representative of the whole album, I might have to pass on purchasing. I am enjoying this song much more.So, the entire album is acoustic? ???No.
I thought it was. ???
meh... it's an OKish song. but there's no inspiration, no uniqueness and even the ac. guitar solos feel like used/heard 1000 times before. good thing James isn't pushing it (vocally) outside his present comfort zone.
meh... it's an OKish song. but there's no inspiration, no uniqueness and even the ac. guitar solos feel like used/heard 1000 times before. good thing James isn't pushing it (vocally) outside his present comfort zone.
Compared to the last DT, it’s a breath of fresh air. AVFTTOTH was everything you just said.
meh... it's an OKish song. but there's no inspiration, no uniqueness and even the ac. guitar solos feel like used/heard 1000 times before. good thing James isn't pushing it (vocally) outside his present comfort zone.
Compared to the last DT, it’s a breath of fresh air. AVFTTOTH was everything you just said.
Wrong again.
Hey Rodrigo,
I saw your interview with James on Blabbermouth via Sonic Perspectives where he talks about meeting with MP at the DT show. I was really impressed with how James handled that. It was a very cool response from him. Did he actually self-censor and say frickin' all the time? Found that funny.
meh... it's an OKish song. but there's no inspiration, no uniqueness and even the ac. guitar solos feel like used/heard 1000 times before. good thing James isn't pushing it (vocally) outside his present comfort zone.
Compared to the last DT, it’s a breath of fresh air. AVFTTOTH was everything you just said.
Wrong again.
Nah, he's kinda right. ;D
In this thread we gang up on the Americans.
Hey Rodrigo,
I saw your interview with James on Blabbermouth via Sonic Perspectives where he talks about meeting with MP at the DT show. I was really impressed with how James handled that. It was a very cool response from him. Did he actually self-censor and say frickin' all the time? Found that funny.
The interview is on youtube and yes, he does say 'frickin'
I read somewhere on Facebook that the female vocals at the end of the song are from Theresa Thomason. Very cool if that's true!DT's twitter confirmed that it is indeed Theresa
I read somewhere on Facebook that the female vocals at the end of the song are from Theresa Thomason. Very cool if that's true!DT's twitter confirmed that it is indeed Theresa
https://twitter.com/dreamtheaternet/status/1526191824481681408 (https://twitter.com/dreamtheaternet/status/1526191824481681408)
Couldn't make it through that new song. Not my thing at the moment. The guitar sounds out of tune to me.
As much as I liked this song, along with the others, I do not know if it's something I would listen to with any frequency.I feel exactly the same.
As much as I liked this song, along with the others, I do not know if it's something I would listen to with any frequency.I feel exactly the same.
I like the new song. I'm actually looking forward to this album.
I like the new song. I'm actually looking forward to this album.
Pffft....going soft mate. ;D
I like the new song. I'm actually looking forward to this album.
Pffft....going soft mate. ;D
You know what it is... James sounds so restrained in Dream Theater. It's great to hear him go for it vocally.
Listening now
Thanks for that Pigs cover, 'Rox
I enjoyed the album, but the style of music isn't quite what floats my boat nowadays. James sounds great, and I loved the cover of Ramble On (Top 3 Zeppelin song for me). Not sure it'll get a lot of repeated listens, but it's certainly light years better than 2 out of his last 3 performances on DT albums. Maybe all three (from a vocal perspective).
Imagine if, when a new DT album came out, there was as much praise for James' performance as there is in a thread like this...
My only takeaway after one listen of this album is that I really miss Matt.After two listens, that's my view too. He's so great at writing strong hooks, and there's just not enough of those on the new album for me.
I don't miss Matt on this album. I love Matt and would love them to continue to collaborate but to me, it's almost too pop oriented. In an interview (or maybe even answering questions on this board) he even said some of his influences were pop acts like Britney Spears or the Backstreet Boys. It's kind of hilarious since Peter would come in on half the songs and sound like an aggressive satan taking over.
I definitely think this is LaBrie's best since EoP.
Imagine if, when a new DT album came out, there was as much praise for James' performance as there is in a thread like this...
I don't miss Matt on this album. I love Matt and would love them to continue to collaborate but to me, it's almost too pop oriented. In an interview (or maybe even answering questions on this board) he even said some of his influences were pop acts like Britney Spears or the Backstreet Boys. It's kind of hilarious since Peter would come in on half the songs and sound like an aggressive satan taking over.
I definitely think this is LaBrie's best since EoP.
I love Matt's work with James, but I'm not missing him in this new album. By the way, I read somewhere he's already working (slowly) with James in next solo to record with the band with Wildoer etc. So, I think this new partnership with Logue doesn't mean James will stop working with Matt.
I don't miss Matt on this album. I love Matt and would love them to continue to collaborate but to me, it's almost too pop oriented. In an interview (or maybe even answering questions on this board) he even said some of his influences were pop acts like Britney Spears or the Backstreet Boys. It's kind of hilarious since Peter would come in on half the songs and sound like an aggressive satan taking over.
I definitely think this is LaBrie's best since EoP.
:rollin Yes that's kinda how I felt about the last two albums as well. I really put the time in trying to like them but they just didn't do it for me.
Besides his albums being composed with a lot more of his input, I think this is also the main reason.Imagine if, when a new DT album came out, there was as much praise for James' performance as there is in a thread like this...
James seems to sound much better on his solo albums than with DT and my guess would be its because he doesn't have to tour performing these songs so he can let it all out in studio and not worry about his vocal chords consistently handling it live.
Imagine if, when a new DT album came out, there was as much praise for James' performance as there is in a thread like this...
James seems to sound much better on his solo albums than with DT and my guess would be its because he doesn't have to tour performing these songs so he can let it all out in studio and not worry about his vocal chords consistently handling it live.
That, but let's not forget the big thing - DT music is a lot more complex. JLB solo is more simply melodies and pleasant hooks. They're two totally different animals.
This album is way more enjoyable than the new Dream Theater album...Definitely. It's a low bar, though. :biggrin:
Only heard the new disc once. I was really hoping for the sound of Static Impulse and Impermanent Resonance, and there was very little of that sound here. Still digging the new disc, but I hope he returns to the sound of the two aforementioned albums one day.
Only heard the new disc once. I was really hoping for the sound of Static Impulse and Impermanent Resonance, and there was very little of that sound here. Still digging the new disc, but I hope he returns to the sound of the two aforementioned albums one day.
But why? This was heavily promoted as an acoustic disc—why would you hope for the sound of Static Impulse?
That, but let's not forget the big thing - DT music is a lot more complex. JLB solo is more simply melodies and pleasant hooks. They're two totally different animals.
Yes and no.
If we are comparing 'this' new JLB album to, say, AVFTOTW, then you are absolutely correct.
But DT has written simple melodies, and the prevalence of 'hooks' on those first few albums are why the fanbase generally regard that era as DT's peak.
I think, for me, this album reminds me of a DT that probably no longer exists. Those last few minutes of 'Wildflower' remind me of 6 Degrees, and "Give and Take" feels like it could've sat comfortably on FII. My point is, this new JLB album isn't all that far from DT, at least to my ears.
Now, don't get me wrong, I dug the last DT album, but I do hope their next effort has a little more acoustic guitar on it. I might be in the minority, but I missed having a ballad on AVFTOTW.
(https://c.tenor.com/JHWFmexHEvcAAAAM/tealc-stargate.gif)This album is way more enjoyable than the new Dream Theater album...Definitely. It's a low bar, though. :biggrin:
I don't miss Matt on this album. I love Matt and would love them to continue to collaborate but to me, it's almost too pop oriented. In an interview (or maybe even answering questions on this board) he even said some of his influences were pop acts like Britney Spears or the Backstreet Boys. It's kind of hilarious since Peter would come in on half the songs and sound like an aggressive satan taking over.
I definitely think this is LaBrie's best since EoP.
:rollin Yes that's kinda how I felt about the last two albums as well. I really put the time in trying to like them but they just didn't do it for me.
I LOVED them when they came out, especially Static Impulse. I never thought they topped EoP though. The more time goes on I go back to them less and less, and btw I love the heavy style in general. I'm a big fan of underground black metal. I actually have a Darkane CD arriving in the mail tomorrow. But as I get older I listen to that style of music less as well but I haven't given up on it.
If I want to listen to James (which is often), then I want to hear James and only James. I'm going to have to be in a VERY specific mood to want to hear Peter tearing shit up as well. Good stuff but the mood just doesn't strike me much anymore.
Yeah, this is it for me too. It's the hooks and melodies I miss, not the heaviness.
I'm not necessarily missing the heaviness of Static Impulse or Impermanent Resonance, and I was looking forward to the accoustic direction. But I expected the song writing and style to be more in line with those two previous discs. Those were the first James Labrie solo albums I really spent any time with, and I have become very fond of them. I dig all his other solo albums to varying degrees, and certainly enjoy the new one. Just not what I was expecting.
The chorus of Am I Right has the same chord progression as Take Away My Pain I think.That expains why the song hasn't clicked with me. ;D
I feel like the difference between Dream Theater and the JLB stuff with Matt is that JLB actually sounds like the songs were written not only with vocals in mind, but specifically James's voice and the things about his timbre and style that make him great and unique. Whereas Dream Theater has for a while given the impression that they're writing instrumental tracks that they then have to figure out how to cram some vocals in somewhere.100000%. Everyone who sets out saying "I want to work with James LaBrie on my album" - not just Matt and Paul, but everyone who has had James on their albums - knows exactly what they want him for, while Dream Theater is just a band with a singer. I'm not saying that means DT members don't appreciate James or don't like writing for him, but all of them have an above average interest in writing purely instrumental music, and when they discuss making DT songs they almost never get to the part of "and then I came up with this awesome vocal melody to lay on top". Vocals come last in 90% of metal band songwriting, but with Dream Theater in particular they come dead, dead last.
I feel like the difference between Dream Theater and the JLB stuff with Matt is that JLB actually sounds like the songs were written not only with vocals in mind, but specifically James's voice and the things about his timbre and style that make him great and unique. Whereas Dream Theater has for a while given the impression that they're writing instrumental tracks that they then have to figure out how to cram some vocals in somewhere.100000%. Everyone who sets out saying "I want to work with James LaBrie on my album" - not just Matt and Paul, but everyone who has had James on their albums - knows exactly what they want him for, while Dream Theater is just a band with a singer. I'm not saying that means DT members don't appreciate James or don't like writing for him, but all of them have an above average interest in writing purely instrumental music, and when they discuss making DT songs they almost never get to the part of "and then I came up with this awesome vocal melody to lay on top". Vocals come last in 90% of metal band songwriting, but with Dream Theater in particular they come dead, dead last.
Maybe I haven't found the right headspace for this album. Far from dismissing it, but this doesn't feel like an album that you can just wing it and get it.I agree. I basically like what I've heard from it so far - but feel if I buy it now, I would not even listen to it. Just too many other things that I'm into right now, and definitely not in the right "headspace" for this. Maybe that will change.
Maybe I haven't found the right headspace for this album. Far from dismissing it, but this doesn't feel like an album that you can just wing it and get it.
This album is $16.98 at Amazon. Sorry, not paying that. I have physical copies of all of his solo stuff, including the Frameshift album that he is on, but I'm not biting at that price.
This album is $16.98 at Amazon. Sorry, not paying that. I have physical copies of all of his solo stuff, including the Frameshift album that he is on, but I'm not biting at that price.
I guess very few people care about physical media anymore so those who do pay the premium. Still seems kind of odd to read this, you would support an artist all along but then draw the line when the price goes up by two dollars lol
This album is $16.98 at Amazon. Sorry, not paying that. I have physical copies of all of his solo stuff, including the Frameshift album that he is on, but I'm not biting at that price.
This album is $16.98 at Amazon. Sorry, not paying that. I have physical copies of all of his solo stuff, including the Frameshift album that he is on, but I'm not biting at that price.
I guess very few people care about physical media anymore so those who do pay the premium. Still seems kind of odd to read this, you would support an artist all along but then draw the line when the price goes up by two dollars lol
Yeah, BSOG was much better than I expected, so bring on another one.
I like the album, but I wish he had released it under another name. JLB has in the past indicated that he considers his "James LaBrie" albums with Matt et al to be band efforts, rather than solo albums; with his name used just for the name recognition. This album really muddies the waters.
Yeah, BSOG was much better than I expected, so bring on another one.
From James Labrie: Hey everyone! Have you seen the new ‘Beautiful Shade of Grey’ merchandise range on my new webshop? Grab your BSOG shirts, hats, hoodies, patches & more at jameslabrie.com/shop
Yaaargh! 🤘🎤🏴☠️🇨🇦
The new guys ARE the band. Matt WAS in the band.From James Labrie: Hey everyone! Have you seen the new ‘Beautiful Shade of Grey’ merchandise range on my new webshop? Grab your BSOG shirts, hats, hoodies, patches & more at jameslabrie.com/shop
Yaaargh! 🤘🎤🏴☠️🇨🇦
I'm glad he's got a new site and merch, but am disappointed that the site presents the new guys as "the band" and ignores Matt, et al from the previous albums.
The new guys ARE the band. Matt WAS in the band.From James Labrie: Hey everyone! Have you seen the new ‘Beautiful Shade of Grey’ merchandise range on my new webshop? Grab your BSOG shirts, hats, hoodies, patches & more at jameslabrie.com/shop
Yaaargh! 🤘🎤🏴☠️🇨🇦
I'm glad he's got a new site and merch, but am disappointed that the site presents the new guys as "the band" and ignores Matt, et al from the previous albums.
Mike Portnoy WAS in Dream Theater, but he's not now.
Bump.
I was listening to Impermanent Resonance today and remembered to listen once to some demos with Matt Guillory singing a few songs, specially Back on the Ground, can't find it anywhere and don't even know if it was released in any formats of the album. Does anyone knows if it's possible to find it?
I'll check out this album one day.
I'll check out this album one day.
Huh.......that day still has not come around.
I'll check out this album one day.
Huh.......that day still has not come around.
:lol not sure if its for your tastes, but I found it to be surprisingly pretty good
I'll check out this album one day.
Huh.......that day still has not come around.
:lol not sure if its for your tastes, but I found it to be surprisingly pretty good
:lol Probably why I never bothered haha. I should make an effort though.
Happy Birthday too man!
I liked the song and thought James sounded better than he does when he’s attempting to sing something heavy. Never heard that song before. Did Gilmour himself actually play on that (the video says he did)?
I liked the song and thought James sounded better than he does when he’s attempting to sing something heavy. Never heard that song before. Did Gilmour himself actually play on that (the video says he did)?
I highly, highly doubt Gilmour played on that. I think it's just listing the credits to the original song which is Gilmour and Waters.
Didn't sound like James in the slightest to me.
That sounds amazing. I would enjoy hearing The Grand Design and other Mythology Suite songs.
A Tribute To Pink Floyd
James LaBrie - A Pillow Of Winds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_8QgXzFF4w