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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: Dimitrius on July 26, 2010, 10:18:22 PM
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It's midnight on the East so Nightmare is officially out.
I think it's uneven at parts and the guitar solos are, for the most part, disappointing but I like this album WAY more than I did their self-titled.
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I think Nightmare's great, a solid 7.5/10. As I said in the thread over on the DT-side: it's miles better than their self-titled, and while not as consistent as City of Evil, the highs surpass it (I know that part will be controversial).
God Hates Us, Save Me, Fiction, Danger Line, and Victim are my favorites, and I really enjoy the others as well (though if any gets skipped, it's Tonight The World Dies).
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God Hates Us has to be the heaviest track they've done, easily!
And I love how MP goes all DT on Save Me!
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Fuck...I dig an A7X song. Wow.
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Fuck...I dig an A7X song. Wow.
Get over yourself and listen to music FOR THE MUSIC!!
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I am going to. I'm going to listen to all of Nightmare now.
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Fuck...I dig an A7X song. Wow.
Get over yourself and listen to music FOR THE MUSIC!!
This!
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It is just that I have heard some of there shit...ok a few songs, but I hated all of them, and then...this!! :metal
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Listen to "A Little Piece of Heaven." In my limited knowledge of the band it's their best song by far.
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I've listened to The Beast and the Harlot, Seize the Day, and Bat Country. While I am ready to admit Syn is a hell of a guitar player and is one of the best in modern day metal, those songs suck a goat's scrotum.
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Listen to "A Little Piece of Heaven." In my limited knowledge of the band it's their best song by far.
Definitely a top 3 song of theirs.
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Are the songs I listened to a good representation of their overall sound?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VurhzANQ_B0
I really don't know how anyone could dislike this. And I'm saying this as someone who doesn't really love this band. To those more knowledgable than I: Didn't Rev write that whole song?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VurhzANQ_B0
I really don't know how anyone could dislike this.
I can.
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I don't even really like metal that much but FUCK, I love that song!
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I don't even really like metal that much
Huh?
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I don't know why I said that. It's not really a metal song at all.
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I mean the whole "not liking metal" thing...huh.
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Well, let me clarify. I can't stand most straight up metal. Probably 95% of the few metal I listen to has some other elements to it, which keeps the music interesting for me.
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As much as I disagree, I guess I have to say your opinion is one highly shared on this board, so...ok!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VurhzANQ_B0
I really don't know how anyone could dislike this. And I'm saying this as someone who doesn't really love this band. To those more knowledgable than I: Didn't Rev write that whole song?
Indeed he did.
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I've listened to Nightmare 4 times in the last half hour. Sick fuckin song. I also listened to Welcome to the Family and Danger Line and those were meh.
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I've listened to Nightmare 4 times in the last half hour. Sick fuckin song. I also listened to Welcome to the Family and Danger Line and those were meh.
Listen to God Hates Us, Save Me and Second Heartbeat now!! Oh and listen to that link antigoon posted.
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I stopped Antigoons link in the middle to listen to Nightmare again. :lol
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Waking the Fallen is such an epic album. I'm not gonna be one of those guys who bitches and moans that A7X doesn't sound like that anymore, but man...they really struck gold when they made that record.
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Waking the Fallen is such an epic album. I'm not gonna be one of those guys who bitches and moans that A7X doesn't sound like that anymore, but man...they really struck gold when they made that record.
Yeah, definitely. I'd rank them, from favorite to least, Waking The Fallen, City Of Evil, Nightmare, Sounding The Seventh Trumpet and then the self titled.
I don't hate the self titled as much as some do, it has its moments, but I actually think that Diamonds in the Rough - an album of b-sides - is more consistent than it :lol
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Just purchased their album on iTunes. I had heard some pieces on Youtube before and I must say it was worth buying it.
Save Me, Nightmare and Fiction are the standouts.
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Fiction.
holy shit. completely blown away. its easy to say now that hes gone that he was my favorite member of the band, but he really was. And hearing his voice again and his obvious quirky song writing (pinkly smooth, a little piece of heaven) really just left me speechless. :hefdaddy
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Waking the Fallen is such an epic album. I'm not gonna be one of those guys who bitches and moans that A7X doesn't sound like that anymore, but man...they really struck gold when they made that record.
Truth.
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Save Me gave me a crisis...
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Save Me is the best song they have put out. I'd even call it a mini epic.
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Holy shit, Fiction.
Jimmy was the best songwriter in the damn band.
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Remenissions is my favorite song by them :metal
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And yeah, Save Me is really, really awesome.
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Holy shit, Fiction.
Jimmy was the best songwriter in the damn band.
The band themselves always said Jimmy had more talent in his pinky than anybody else in the band.
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Remenissions is my favorite song by them :metal
Yeahhh great song, although not my favourite (Second Heartbeat FTW). When I saw them last time (either last year of the year before) that was the only song apart from Unholy Confessions that they played from WTF. I was completely not expecting to hear it, and I went nuts. Me and a friend who plays drums recorded a cover of it a little while back, and i was pretty proud of it as some of it is very tricky on guitar, especially the clean parts, but I lost the recording :'(
I also agree that WTF is their best album, even the lousy mix doesn't detract from my enjoyment of it. I only wish that Shadow's clean voice on recent albums was more like it was on IWSYTpt1
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Remenissions is my favorite song by them :metal
Yeahhh great song, although not my favourite (Second Heartbeat FTW).
Second Heartbeat is the best song on that album!
I only wish that Shadow's clean voice on recent albums was more like it was on IWSYTpt1
I hear you! His clean voice on that song has so much power and presence!!
Well, at least he's not doing the million layered vocals like he did on CoE (that's the only thing I hate about the album).
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as of right now (from nightmare)
1. Fiction
2. Save Me
3. God Hates Us
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Is this album worth a listen? (I seriously disliked the self-titled, but liked City of Evil)
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Is this album worth a listen? (I seriously disliked the self-titled, but liked City of Evil)
Definitely.
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Honestly I don't know much about A7X. A couple of years ago, kid at work gave me copies of the S/T and City Of Evil. Other than the outstanding drumming, nothing really grabbed me. With MP on Nightmare, I figured I'd pick this up. After one listen, I like it a lot. It's good metal, clean vocals, and at times, very melodic.
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So far, "Nightmare" kinda sucks, but "Welcome to the Family" is excellent.
I still dislike the vocals though.
Also, "Danger Line" was good until the piano part, and "Buried Alive" might as well be called "The Unforgiven IV".
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I don't have Nightmare yet but I do have the last 2 and I dug them. How is the new album. Is it in the same vein as the last 2?
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I don't have Nightmare yet but I do have the last 2 and I dug them. How is the new album. Is it in the same vein as the last 2?
Yes.
I'm really loving "So Far Away"
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Holy fucking shit "Save Me" is awesome. Portnoy's presence was really felt on this one.
My rankings (through 1 listen):
Save Me
Fiction
Victim
So Far Away
Welcome to the Family
Tonight the World Dies
Danger Line
Buried Alive
Nightmare
Natural Born Killer
God Hates Us
Waking the Fallen, City of Evil, Nightmare, Sounding the Seventh Trumpet, self-titled
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Avenged Sevenfold To Stream July 31st Concert Live
Avenged Sevenfold, which just released the new "Nightmare" album, has checked in with the following update about streaming an upcoming concert live online:
"In honor of all the fans around the world who have supported us during this difficult year, and throughout our career, we are excited to announce we are broadcasting a special live concert webcast this Saturday, July 31, at 7 PM EST from Syracuse, NY. The webcast can be seen at USTREAM, MYSPACE, FACEBOOK and AVENGEDSEVENFOLD.com
"This week's webcast is timed to coincide with the release of our new album, Nightmare, available in stores starting tonight at Midnight E.S.T. Thank you to all the amazing fans from the bottom of our heart for all the love and support you have always shown us. Enjoy the show."
https://www.metalunderground.com/news/details.cfm?newsid=58308
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Waking the Fallen
City of Evil
Nightmare/Self-Titled
Seventh Trumpet
Yes, I do, in fact, very much like their Self-Titled. Deal with it, fools.
I won't be able to see the streaming of the concert, I'm in a play and we open this weekend. But I'm sure it'll be around the interweb soon after.
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Waking the Fallen is so fucking awesome. About 3-4 years ago it was the only thing I listened to. Their newer releases were a huge disappointment for me. :(
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I'm definitely digging this record. SO much better than their self-titled.
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Their newer releases were a huge disappointment for me. :(
If you mean their self-titled, then yes, but City of Evil is amazing!! (Apart from the 700 layers of vocals)
I don't have Nightmare yet but I do have the last 2 and I dug them. How is the new album. Is it in the same vein as the last 2?
Yes, but it's miles better than their self-titled.
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Their newer releases were a huge disappointment for me. :(
If you mean their self-titled, then yes, but City of Evil is amazing!! (Apart from the 700 layers of vocals)
Actually I think that this is the reason why I don't like M Shadows. It's not because his voice is bad at all. In fact, I really like his voice on Waking the Fallen. The layers are terrible. Also, I dislike whenever he sings in that low pitched whiny voice.
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Listening to the album now, and I'm only on the second track. I'll give a first thoughts review once I get through the whole thing. So far I really enjoy the first two tracks. They are very City of Evil-esque.
Also, this may or may not be controversial, but at least with the Rev gone I don't have to sit through his god awful singing. No disrespect to the man, it fucking blows that he died. But his singing was just...bad.
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The first "when I'm not with you tonight" part sung solely by him in Fiction at the end is annoying, but the rest of his vocals don't bother me at all, the "LET IT BURN" part in particular is awesome.
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Lat, The Rev's singing is one of the few things I enjoy from this album. :\
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Their newer releases were a huge disappointment for me. :(
If you mean their self-titled, then yes, but City of Evil is amazing!! (Apart from the 700 layers of vocals)
Actually I think that this is the reason why I don't like M Shadows. It's not because his voice is bad at all. In fact, I really like his voice on Waking the Fallen. The layers are terrible. Also, I dislike whenever he sings in that low pitched whiny voice.
Like he does at the end of M.I.A.? Ugh I hated that!! Completely ruins a, up to that point, perfect song!
@ Lat: I actually really liked his vocals, WAY more than Syn's and Zacky's vocals and at least he sounded the same live. Syn and Zacky's live vocals are horrible!
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Their newer releases were a huge disappointment for me. :(
If you mean their self-titled, then yes, but City of Evil is amazing!! (Apart from the 700 layers of vocals)
Actually I think that this is the reason why I don't like M Shadows. It's not because his voice is bad at all. In fact, I really like his voice on Waking the Fallen. The layers are terrible. Also, I dislike whenever he sings in that low pitched whiny voice.
Like he does at the end of M.I.A.? Ugh I hated that!! Completely ruins a, up to that point, perfect song!
Yes! That song was awesome and the vocals ruined the ending!
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Their newer releases were a huge disappointment for me. :(
If you mean their self-titled, then yes, but City of Evil is amazing!! (Apart from the 700 layers of vocals)
Actually I think that this is the reason why I don't like M Shadows. It's not because his voice is bad at all. In fact, I really like his voice on Waking the Fallen. The layers are terrible. Also, I dislike whenever he sings in that low pitched whiny voice.
Like he does at the end of M.I.A.? Ugh I hated that!! Completely ruins a, up to that point, perfect song!
@ Lat: I actually really liked his vocals, WAY more than Syn's and Zacky's vocals and at least he sounded the same live. Syn and Zacky's live vocals are horrible!
Those vocals don't bother me all that much. They could be much, much worse if M. Shadow's wasn't by nature just an awesome vocalist. At least he doesn't sound like any of those dime-a-dozen whiney ass metalcore vocalists who sound 15.
And in all honesty, no one else should be singing BUT M. Shadows. He's the singer. The other guys should just stfu and play their instruments.
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I'm sorry but those vocals at the end of M.I.A. are just horrible, Lat!
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"THA FIGHT IT RAGES OHN AND OWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAAAAAAAWWWWWWWN"
Ugh, I cringe everytime I hear it. But anyway, I think Nightmare is their best album yet, but then again I'm not really a huge fan of most of their stuff.
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Fiction.
holy shit. completely blown away. its easy to say now that hes gone that he was my favorite member of the band, but he really was. And hearing his voice again and his obvious quirky song writing (pinkly smooth, a little piece of heaven) really just left me speechless. :hefdaddy
This.
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First reaction song-by-song review:
Nightmare - This has actually grew on me a lot since the singles release. The lyrics are still a bit bothersome, but forgivable. The riffs are rather :metal
Welcome to the Family - Straightforward? Check. Catchy? Check. Pretty cool tune? Check. I like this one, a lot.
Danger Line - Eh, it's alright. As of now, it's definitely a weak point of the album. Though I did like the drum line near the end. Not bad, I can see it being a grower with time.
Buried Alive - I already heard this one when it was released the same way Nightmare had been (a la lyric video on youtube). I did NOT care for it when it was released. It felt very much like, as someone else mentioned, Metallica's The Day That Never Comes. I found it rather boring. Upon this listen, I still don't care for it. The guitar work is rather good however, especially the solo before the heavy part. And speaking of the heavy section, it's alright. M. Shadow's vocal delivery is pretty cool, but still nothing special. This song feels very Metallicay, which isn't necessarily a good thing.
Natural Born Killer - Ah good, the first of the songs I hadn't heard before the release. Okay, first impression from the opening of this song. Bad-fucking-ass. That shit was sweet. *3 minutes later* Okay, this is definitely one of this album's highs. I am very much enjoying this track. And now that it's over, I can safely say that's one of the best so far. Very cool.
So Far Away - I'm not too far into this song and I'm already not caring for it. Sounds like a standard ballad to me with very little replay value. This is easily the weakest part of the album. Not much room for growth either. It also drags for at least a minute too long.
God Hates Us - Okay, here it is. The apparent heaviest track A7X has ever recorded. I really liked that little intro they used, and how it exploded into this monstrous wall of riffs and blastbeats. Fuckin brutal sounding. Now for the screams. The screams worked on Waking the Fallen, but sounded AWFUL on their first album. Now for this song, they sound like a mix of screams with a bit of a growl in there. Not necessarily a death growl, but definitely evil sounding. It works, I can dig it. This song is full of balls. Just how Mike Portnoy likes it. :metal :metal :metal
Victim - Is that Mike Portnoy doing the soul singing in the beginning? :neverusethis:
Now in all seriousness, this song is...I don't know how to put it. It's good, but different. I feel like I should enjoy this one. And I can see myself liking it. But at the same time, I'm not sure. M. Shadow's shows off some really cool vocal moments in this one, for sure. The guitar is a nice change of pace and the overall tone is pretty cool. Maybe it's just because I want some more "heavy" Sevenfold. I don't know. I like it. Shut the fuck up, Alex. It's good.
Tonight The World Dies - Really? Two ballad like tracks back to back? That always bothers me. Typically, at least for me, I don't like to hear two "slower" tracks next to eachother when listening to an album which is produced by a band within the "metal" genre. Especially when on my first listen, it's a major turn off. And more especially since this track is significantly weaker than it's predecessor. It's...alright. But weak, definitely weak. Primarily in album placement. But it really doesn't keep me interested.
Fiction - Ah, the infamous "controversy" laced track. I like the piano intro. Very nice touch. But now 3 slower tracks in a row? Come on, really? I'm not trying to be too picky, but that's a tad annoying. Oh well. This song is pretty. And Rev's vocals are tolerable compared to his input on the self titled album. Though I'm not a fan of when he sings higher. That does bother me. This song is good though, very good. And the piano adds both beauty and a slight creepy undertone as well. I love it.
Side note - Oh my god. That part where he sings around 3:30 or so. "HGNGNNNNHHHHHNNNHNNHHHNNNMUMBLEMUMBLEMUMBLE". The hell was that?
Save Me - I really, really, really fucking love this one. Easily the highest point on the album next to the ones previously stated. Love the bass intro, love the riffs, drums, vocals and the slight Dream Theater influence I heard people mention earlier. This song is absolutely fantastic.
Overall, I very much enjoy this album. Avenged Sevenfold have only written one bad album and that was their debut. After that, they have hardly disappointed. Yes, the self-titled was rather underwhelming, but it grew on me over time and I grew to love it. This though, is an instant classic for the band. Not quite better than City of Evil, which is their god tier album. I'd have to say it's at least tied with Waking the Fallen for me. It's good. Very, very good. And I can see it sitting even better with me after future listens. Great job A7X, you did good.
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clerly athey tjust need a new singer, the music is good but icann t stand his awful voice. he couldnt growl back in the day either.
I ave to say though, the new albuk is easily their best, sad that it's pusthumusly from the rev.
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Go back to the drunk thread.
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Hey to be fair if i type reaslly carefully I can type fine but it takes ages. I can still think *fine*.
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:lol Ok then.
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THat reminds me, the bat county has one of the best solos i've ever heard. The part around ~2:26-2:30 and then at 2:38 are really stadntut for me - unlike lots of shreddy solos that by all means are amazing sounding but a litle bit samey. I think.
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Save Me is pwning my soul!!!
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Don't kill me but the vocals at 2:04 sound like casey crezenso's. *runs*
I gues this belong s in the the dear hunter thread though.
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I don't hear it. At all. :lol and anyways, that would be fine, because Casey is awesome
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What the hell is wrong with sounding like Casey Crescenzo? I wish I did...
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By the way, Sidewinder = the best them!
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By the way, I Won't See You Tonight Part 1 = the best them!
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By the way, Scream = the best them!
:neverusethis:
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By the way, Sidewinder = the best them!
:tup :tup :tup :tup :tup :tup :tup :tup :tup :tup :tup
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New album is okay, which is a step up from previous efforts. Little Piece of Heaven is still by far my favourite song by them, though Save Me is a nice second.
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New album is okay, which is a step up from previous efforts. Little Piece of Heaven is still by far my favourite song by them, though Save Me is a nice second.
I can't say I'm a huge fan of the band (although they definitely have some serious skills). Nightmare is okay, but there's only a couple songs I bother with. I've given City of Evil a few listens and I don't care for it. On the other hand, I think Little Piece of Heaven is a great song! Would you recommend the rest of that album?
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New album is really good, probably their best so far.
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How is the album sound-wise?
I really liked the previous album (the self-titled), but don't care much at all for the older stuff.
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How is the album sound-wise?
I really liked the previous album (the self-titled), but don't care much at all for the older stuff.
Same here. Well, I only sort of liked that album (by that I mean 2 songs, Critical Acclaim and Gunslinger) but I didn't HATE it like I did City of Evil and their earlier works.
Edit: And of course A Little Piece of Heaven, their best song! XD
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Chapter Four = their best song.
I need to get this album.
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By the way, I Won't See You Tonight Part 1 = the best them!
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I Won't See You Tonight Part 2 is heavier than God Hates Us. Liars.
In fact, God Saves Us is no where near heavy compared to some songs from the earlier albums. The deep cookie monster growls make them sound slightly heavy, just angry really.
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can people explain to me why everyone here hates the self titled? i freakin love it, and it got me back into the band when i lost faith in them after i saw them on the cities of evil tour and they were a little bad live.
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Their experimental stuff people perceive as selling out, and so will automatically rate it lower.
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How is the album sound-wise?
I really liked the previous album (the self-titled), but don't care much at all for the older stuff.
Same here. Well, I only sort of liked that album (by that I mean 2 songs, Critical Acclaim and Gunslinger) but I didn't HATE it like I did City of Evil and their earlier works.
To each his own and all that jazz, but...what the fuck, man?
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self titled is my favorite a7x album. come at me bro
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Self Titled was my favourite before Nightmare. But i can see Nightmare becoming my favourite. I don't get why people dislike the self titled so much. Sure they were very catchy but very awesome at the same time. Unbound is such a sick song.
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That preachy soap box rant BS in Critical Acclaim was enough to turn me off to the entire record.
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i agree that the part sucks, but counting a whole album out because of it is a little weak
as ive said before, im a big rev fan, and he shines the most on that album, as he wrote alot of the songs and sang more
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I know it's weak, but I can't help it. I guess I should give tracks 2-8 another chance.
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as ive said before, im a big rev fan, and he shines the most on that album, as he wrote alot of the songs and sang more
I feel exactly the opposite, to be honest. I didn't care for a lot of the writing and performing he did on the self titled. Though, like I've said, that album did eventually grow on me and I grew to accept it. But the Rev's singing still bothers me.
I've been wondering though, who were the primary writers for City of Evil?
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*Check CoE booklet*
...It says all songs written by A7X.
Also, for some reason the title track is really, really growing on me!
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*Check CoE booklet*
...It says all songs written by A7X.
I just looked through all of my A7X booklets and all the liner notes say the same thing. DAMN YOU!
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Little Piece of Heaven is still by far my favourite song by them
Seconded.
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How is the album sound-wise?
I really liked the previous album (the self-titled), but don't care much at all for the older stuff.
It sounds a lot like the s/t, but in my opinion it's even better. They get pretty experimental on all or most of the songs, and Portnoy really delivers on the record. The last 4 songs on the album are the greatest run of songs the band has ever done imho. The last song is 10 minutes of :metal and :hat but I think my favorite song as of this posting is "Fiction"
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Mike nailed it!!!!!
Love the new album..... on my 5th listen since buying it yesterday. Buried Alive and Save Me are the obvious front runners here.
I'm a big Avenged fan. I don't know where I rank this album compared to the others. I wouldn't dare rank an album after so few listens. But here's how I rank the others.....
1. Avenged Sevenfold
2. Waken The Fallen
3. City Of Evil
4. Sounding The Seventh Trumpet
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The end of Buried Alive sounds like a recent Metallica song.
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The end of Buried Alive sounds like a recent Metallica song.
I get an Unforgiven vibe from the beginning, a Ministry Of Lost Souls vibe from the bridge, and a This Was Your Life (Megadeth) vibe from the ending.
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The end of Buried Alive sounds like a recent Metallica song.
Buried Alive in general sounds like a Metallica song. But that ending part, even in the production, just sounds like The Day that Never Comes.
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Mike nailed it!!!!!
Love the new album..... on my 5th listen since buying it yesterday. Buried Alive and Save Me are the obvious front runners here.
I'm a big Avenged fan. I don't know where I rank this album compared to the others. I wouldn't dare rank an album after so few listens. But here's how I rank the others.....
1. Avenged Sevenfold
2. Waken The Fallen
3. City Of Evil
4. Sounding The Seventh Trumpet
thats my ranking, i also dont know where to put nightmare. ill give it a while, but i dont think it will be better than s/t for me
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Man I really don't get the hate for STST. I freakin love that album. Yes it's got none of the subtleties of later albums, and the songwriting isn't as developed, but they were like 17 when they made it and it has that intense energy and anger that gets me pumped up whenever i listen to it. The drums are also awesome on pretty much every track. It's the first Sevenfold album I heard, and it's pretty much what got me into heavy music in general, so some of my appreciation for it is probably nostalgia, but it still kicks my ass when i listen to it
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Mike nailed it!!!!!
Love the new album..... on my 5th listen since buying it yesterday. Buried Alive and Save Me are the obvious front runners here.
I'm a big Avenged fan. I don't know where I rank this album compared to the others. I wouldn't dare rank an album after so few listens. But here's how I rank the others.....
1. Avenged Sevenfold
2. Waken The Fallen
3. City Of Evil
4. Sounding The Seventh Trumpet
thats my ranking, i also dont know where to put nightmare. ill give it a while, but i dont think it will be better than s/t for me
Me neither... s/t was the business.
Man I really don't get the hate for STST. I freakin love that album. Yes it's got none of the subtleties of later albums, and the songwriting isn't as developed, but they were like 17 when they made it and it has that intense energy and anger that gets me pumped up whenever i listen to it. The drums are also awesome on pretty much every track. It's the first Sevenfold album I heard, and it's pretty much what got me into heavy music in general, so some of my appreciation for it is probably nostalgia, but it still kicks my ass when i listen to it
I love it... just love the others a little bit more.
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This album rocks from beginning to end. I love it. It's like City of Evil, with more balls and better sounding vocals.
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I really like Nightmare(song). It's one of the best tracks on the album.
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May be early to say this but Save Me is quite possibly the best song they have ever made.
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School band (I'm the keys) covered chapter four
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As much as it pains me to say this, we need an A7X survivor.
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As much as it pains me to say this, we need an A7X survivor.
I ran one for 2 years, but stopped due to low voting.
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I'd vote on every album except S/T because i hate it so much.
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While I was hugely disappointed by their S/T, I don't hate it. It's quite good, but not what I was expecting after CoE.
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just bought it tonight...looking forward to listening to it. really never heard them otherwise
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Selftitled is my favourite A7X album.
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Selftitled is my favourite A7X album.
yay i thought i was alone at first
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I really like some songs off the self-titled, but songs like Scream, Almost Easy and Lost drag it down for me.
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Lost is so fucking bad!!
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No idea why I like Lost, but I kind of do. For me what ruined it was Scream, sort of, but mostly Dear God, they definitely should have ended with A Little Piece of Heaven, that one was great! :D
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Wow, so I guess I'm alone in thinking Scream is the third best song in their s/t :lol
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different strokes. i love scream, great drum beat
on another note, its still weird for me to see MP with avenged. like its so crazy seeing MP play unholy confessions live with a7x. :metal
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Well since you bring up the best and worst tracks, it's time for RATE THE TRACKS FROM BEST TO WORST: Self Titled Edition!
1. Lost
2. Unbound (The Wild Ride)
3. Afterlife
4. A Little Piece of Heaven
5. Dear God
6. Gunslinger
7. Critical Acclaim
8. Scream
9. Almost Easy
10. Brompton Cocktail
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Well since you bring up the best and worst tracks, it's time for RATE THE TRACKS FROM BEST TO WORST: Self Titled Edition!
1. Lost
2. Unbound (The Wild Ride)
3. Afterlife
4. A Little Piece of Heaven
5. Dear God
6. Gunslinger
7. Critical Acclaim
8. Scream
9. Almost Easy
10. Brompton Cocktail
The fucking fuck is wrong with you?
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Funny how they go from Dear God to God Hates Us...
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Wait, wait, wait.... you're saying the best track on the s/t is Lost and the worst is Brompton Cocktail?!?!?!
ARE YOU FUCKING INSANE?!?!?!?!
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Wait, wait, wait.... you're saying the best track on the s/t is Lost and the worst is Brompton Cocktail?!?!?!
ARE YOU FUCKING INSANE?!?!?!?!
More than likely.
Well since you bring up the best and worst tracks, it's time for RATE THE TRACKS FROM BEST TO WORST: Self Titled Edition!
1. Lost
2. Unbound (The Wild Ride)
3. Afterlife
4. A Little Piece of Heaven
5. Dear God
6. Gunslinger
7. Critical Acclaim
8. Scream
9. Almost Easy
10. Brompton Cocktail
The fucking fuck is wrong with you?
I really don't like Brompton Cocktail. It's just...uninteresting.
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YOU'RE UNINTERESTING!!!
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brompton cocktails main riff is teh :metal
and im glad you put unbound higher. really underrated
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YOU'RE UNINTERESTING!!!
U MAD
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S/T IS UNINTERESTING
IMMAD
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YOU'RE UNINTERESTING!!!
U MAD
NO U!!
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theres no song on the s/t that i dislike. but COE isnt perfect to me (M.I.A. has potential and some cool parts but...)
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The only bad part of CoE is Seize the Day. CONTROVERSIAL!
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The only bad part of CoE is Seize the Day. CONTROVERSIAL!
Isn't that a GnR song? :neverusethis:
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Nothing controversial, I mean, for a love ballad it might as well at least be memorable.
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I like Sieze the Day.
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I like Sieze the Day.
Well I like Seize the Day.
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Cool. I like "Shit on Dimitrius' Face Day"
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Sounds like somebody ate a road apple today.
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Cool. I like "Shit on Dimitrius' Face Day"
Can you believe Dimitrius is not my real name?
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:lol
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:rollin
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:D
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Now all we have to do is find this "Dimitrius" guy. As it's not the guy who posted above me...
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Correct.
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I don't care that it's not your real name, you're Dimitrius to me. So much cooler.
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I don't care that it's not your real name, you're Dimitrius to me. So much cooler.
:heart
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:heart
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I don't care that it's not your real name, you're Dimitrius to me. So much cooler.
So much cooler than that piece of shit real name you must have.
Unless it was Xavier, of course. Or maybe Orlando.
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Wat
The album is quite good. God Hates Us is fucking good.
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God "Fiction" is so amazing.
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I just finished watching the All Excess documentary on Youtube. It was really cool, but at the same time was really sad to watch. It's made very clear both by the footage and the interviews with the band members how important The Rev was to them. It sucks seeing all of them joking around and having fun together, and knowing that it will never be the same for them as a band and as a family.
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Get the "making of" film of the S/T if you want somewhat of a sequel to All Excess.
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yea, it definitely shows how much input the rev has in the songwriting process. but i haven't watched it in a while
its especially funny when they are just screaming random things for a little piece of heaven
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Did A7X ever use blast beats before? Just heard the one in Natural Born Killer.
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i dont think so. i dont listen to STST much, but i didnt even notice there was one in NBK
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A pretty damn good album. Very solid and well produced.
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i dont think so. i dont listen to STST much, but i didnt even notice there was one in NBK
Yeah, there's one just before the verse riff kicks in.
Though I know some people will start arguing that that's not a blast beat.
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well i never noticed that, but i think that can pass as a blast beat
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Hell the drumming around 9:20 of This Dying Soul is a blast beat to me. Anyway, it just made me wonder if it was Mike's input or if one of the guys asked him to do it. I doubt the Rev would write it since he's never done it before, although it's not impossible.
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Well I just watched an interview with Portnoy where he said he just played by the demos The Rev did.
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I should also add the bonus track "Lost It All" is awesome.
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Well I just watched an interview with Portnoy where he said he just played by the demos The Rev did.
Link?
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I should also add the bonus track "Lost It All" is awesome.
Yeah, it's nothing amazing but it definitely doesn't suck, I really like the middle section. I think if they stuck it between Victim and Tonight The World Dies the album would flow better (alternatively, they could have just put Natural Born Killer there).
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I should also add the bonus track "Lost It All" is awesome.
Yeah, it's nothing amazing but it definitely doesn't suck, I really like the middle section. I think if they stuck it between Victim and Tonight The World Dies the album would flow better (alternatively, they could have just put Natural Born Killer there).
Actually I put it right between Tonight The World Dies and Fiction for my iPod. Works quite well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPznkBlEKY8
Theres the interview I was talking about.
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"Fiction" is easily my favorite song off this album as of right now, although "Victim", "Save Me" and the first few tracks are also amazing. This album is really, really good, and easily the most heartfelt album the band has released (for obvious reasons).
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The whole Nightmare CD has M. Shadows' best vocal work in his whole career.
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The whole Nightmare CD has M. Shadows' best vocal work in his whole career.
wat
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I think that was already posted, but as a reminder, tonight at 7:00pm EDT a live stream of A7X's concert.
https://www.ustream.tv/avengedsevenfold
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The whole Nightmare CD has M. Shadows' best vocal work in his whole career.
wat
I think that was already posted, but as a reminder, tonight at 7:00pm EDT a live stream of A7X's concert.
https://www.ustream.tv/avengedsevenfold
Of all days, today is one of them when I have plans.
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Break those plans!!
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I really, really shouldn't.
But...A7X....A7X or girl...A7X or girl...
:dangerwillrobinson:
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The choice is easy, young padawan.
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The whole Nightmare CD has M. Shadows' best vocal work in his whole career.
Yeah, the vocals are amazing.
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So, having not listened to any A7X before, I thought I'd see if any of their stuff was up on Spotify. The new album isn't there yet, but the title track is so I had a listen, really liked it. :tup
Listening through their self-titled at the moment, it's pretty good stuff. Reminds me of a cross between Soil and Monster Magnet's later stuff.
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So, having not listened to any A7X before, I thought I'd see if any of their stuff was up on Spotify. The new album isn't there yet, but the title track is so I had a listen, really liked it. :tup
Listening through their self-titled at the moment, it's pretty good stuff. Reminds me of a cross between Soil and Monster Magnet's later stuff.
LISTEN. TO. CITY. OF. EVIL. NOW.
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I'm hardly going to change halfway through an album, foo'!
I will check out their other stuff though. :tup
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DT fans really like Fiction
Basic A7X fans apparently not so much :-\
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Really? Aside from that "MUMBLEMUMBLEMUMBLEMUMBLE" part, the entire song is so eerie yet so beautiful.
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YOU SHOULD HAVE KNOWN
THE PRICE OF EVIL
God that chorus is SO good.
And Fiction, man. Just the circumstances surrounding that song and everything...It's such an emotional song to listen to. I love it. I can't believe A7X fans don't like it.
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And Fiction, man. Just the circumstances surrounding that song and everything...It's such an emotional song to listen to. I love it. I can't believe A7X fans don't like it.
Yeah, I'm shocked as well.
Also listening to the album once again. God damn, Nightmare (song) has really grown on me. Even those cringe-worthy lyrics don't bother me as much.
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I feel the need to say this again, because it hasn't been said in a while
Waking the Fallen is the best them
BY MILES.
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lono. City of Evil shits all over Waking the Fallen.
I do love Waking the Fallen, however.
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Also listening to the album once again. God damn, Nightmare (song) has really grown on me. Even those cringe-worthy lyrics don't bother me as much.
Same here. IT'S YOUR FUCKIN' NIGHTMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARE (NOW YOUR NIGHTMARE COMES TO LIIIFFE)
I don't know how they pulled it off, but I'm totally into it.
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Welcome to the Family feels like it could have been on City of Evil. That makes me happy.
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The new album is just...so fun to listen to.
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And I don't think it's just the "new album novelty" either. I can see this one being a rather strong album a year from now.
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lono. City of Evil shits all over Waking the Fallen.
LOLNO
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I'm on Buried Alive now. I still have a hard time with this track. It feels far too Metallica influenced for my liking, but at the same time it's not THAT bad. I like it a little better than from my first listen, but still hardly.
So Far Away still remains the only song on the album I really don't care for.
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The drum fills at the end of Save Me are freaking sweet.
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Just popping back into this thread to say that A Little Piece of Heaven is an AWESOME song! So quirky and brilliant, love it!
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Avenged fans don't like Fiction? I need to see some evidence that back up that quote cause I really ain't buying it.
Oh and look at the lyrics to Fiction and So Far Away.
Mentions pain and broken heart in So Far Away (from Syn. Gates to Rev)
Mentions hurt going away and giving life for someone in Fiction (from Rev to us, the fans, the band?)
Suspicious indeed. We all know what the report said about his death but it is a very fishy story and somethings just fit into place. I hate to be disrespectful as he was my favourite member but it's thought provoking.
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Avenged fans don't like Fiction? I need to see some evidence that back up that quote cause I really ain't buying it.
Oh and look at the lyrics to Fiction and So Far Away.
Mentions pain and broken heart in So Far Away (from Syn. Gates to Rev)
Mentions hurt going away and giving life for someone in Fiction (from Rev to us, the fans, the band?)
Suspicious indeed. We all know what the report said about his death but it is a very fishy story and somethings just fit into place. I hate to be disrespectful as he was my favourite member but it's thought provoking.
I'm pretty sure they rewrote all the lyrics after Rev's death to be about how they feel about losing him.
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This new album has a wicked Guns n Roses Illusion era feel to it.
And God Hates Us really reminds me of classic Armored Saint.
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I'm pretty sure they rewrote all the lyrics after Rev's death to be about how they feel about losing him.
Yeah, wasn't it originally about the media/society/television/internet's effect on American youth or something stupid like that (a mainstream version of FOABP, I guess)? However, considering the Rev actually sings on Fiction they obviously didn't change those particular lyrics :P
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Is the mumbling bit in Fiction supposed to be the Rev?
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I think it might be him, not too sure though.
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It's 100% him
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Ok, I wasn't completely sure.
:-\
I'm gonna go listen to Pinkly Smooth now. :metal
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It's 100% him
Damn. That part fucking sucks.
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I don't mind it... I actually kind of like it.
Yeah... I like the WHOLE FUCKING SONG!
NO, I FUCKING LOVE THE WHOLE FUCKING SONG!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! /insanity
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This album has so much feeling. Awesome album.
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I really love the album, but the one thing that irritates me is having the 3 slow songs all in a row at the end. Kinda kills the vibe a bit for me. Luckily they pull it back with Save Me, which is the best them
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*Two days ago*: Hate Avenged Sevenfold
*Yesterday*: Hears "Nightmare"
*Today*: OMG NEED MOAR AS
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Fiction is so eerie, the piano melody creeps me out.
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A7X's slow songs are usually better than their fast metal rockers. Their musicianship is far better showcased when they slow things down and experiment a bit. Also the vocal quality exponentially grows on the more ballad-esque tunes.
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*Two days ago*: Hate Avenged Sevenfold
*Yesterday*: Hears "Nightmare"
*Today*: OMG NEED MOAR AS
I don't know how to make this any clearer. CITY. OF. EVIL.
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LISTEN. TO. CITY. OF. EVIL. NOW.
I have that tattooed on the insides of my eyelids.
Just for the record. I'm A7X fan and I love Fiction. Don't be such a dismissive d-bag.
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Hm, I don't know who to respond to first, you guys telling me to listen to Avenged Sevenfold, or Letters telling me to listen to Opeth.
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Both you fuck.
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Opeth you fuck.
That's what he meant to say.
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FINALLY listening to the new album.
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Opeth you fuck.
That's what he meant to say.
:justjen
Wait, I have an idea! Why don't all of you who want me to get into [insert band here] send me five dollars, this way I'll end up with money to get their music!
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Or you could go the illegal way.
*evil laugh*
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Opeth you fuck.
That's what he meant to say.
:justjen
Wait, I have an idea! Why don't all of you who want me to get into [insert band here] send me five dollars, this way I'll end up with money to get their music!
Buy from Amazon.. free shipping and most albums are like 6 or 7 dollars.
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You all should check out the demo of Nightmare (the song) to get an idea of how much Portnoy stuck to the originals.
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Or you could go the illegal way.
*evil laugh*
Hey Dimi, why don't you send him a PM with links to illegally pirated music. I don't see how you could be negatively affected by that one bit.
:neverusethis:
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I already did!
:splodetard:
And hey lat, maybe you should tell him how many albums A7X have, how many you own so he knows that you own over half their albums! :neverusethis:
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Oh! Oh! I want in on this!
:neverusethis:
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HURR 6 +7 = 14 DURR
Fuck you. :neverusethis:
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What the fuck is going on in this thread?
:neverusethis:
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:splodetard:
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I've been all up and down the internet the past 2 weeks, reading about this band and the new album. I can't honestly remember where I heard about the whole Fiction and A7X fans thing, but it was kind of a "I read it in passing" sort of thing. It stood out enough for me to be like, "wait, wtf is going on".
I'm not generalizing all A7X fans. My dad is a huge fan of them, he does not like DT and progressive music, but he loves Fiction and the more progressive elements on the album as well as the more 'classic' A7X elements.
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Opeth you fuck.
That's what he meant to say.
:justjen
Wait, I have an idea! Why don't all of you who want me to get into [insert band here] send me five dollars, this way I'll end up with money to get their music!
Buy from Amazon.. free shipping and most albums are like 6 or 7 dollars.
When I do buy CDs, it is usually from Amazon. I'm in a lot of concert debt right now though, so I need to get out of that first.
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So, should I run the A7X survivor again?
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So, should I run the A7X survivor again?
Yeah, I'll participate.
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So, should I run the A7X survivor again?
Yes indeed
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Mike and Max Portnoy play Nightmare.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-kG0Oz4ECA&feature=player_embedded
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Mike and Max Portnoy play Nightmare.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-kG0Oz4ECA&feature=player_embedded
Just came in here to post this. 'Tis quite awesome. :metal
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i think that needs a thread in DT section. more people need to see that
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i think that needs a thread in DT section. more people need to see that
Done.
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=15372.0
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Listened to City of Evil yesterday and listening through again now. It's quite good, but I definitely prefer the self-titled. Just more quirky and with a greater sense of melody.
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Listened to City of Evil yesterday and listening through again now. It's quite good, but I definitely prefer the self-titled. Just more quirky and with a greater sense of melody.
Agreed.
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Looks like Nightmare is gonna debut at number one.
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"HOLY SH*T!!! Avenged Sevenfold's Nightmare entered the Billboard charts at #1!!!! Thanks to all the fans for making this such a huge album and for all their support with my involvement...I am so proud to be a part of it with them!!!"
From MP's Facebook.
https://www.facebook.com/mikeportnoyofficial
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"HOLY SH*T!!! Avenged Sevenfold's Nightmare entered the Billboard charts at #1!!!! Thanks to all the fans for making this such a huge album and for all their support with my involvement...I am so proud to be a part of it with them!!!"
From MP's Facebook.
https://www.facebook.com/mikeportnoyofficial
Probably mostly all Dream Theater fans.
I really like this album. It's better than City of Evil, one of their best.
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now you know for certain MP is going to want DT's new album to enter the charts at #1 :rollin
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Dear God is awesome. I don't like their other songs at all really.
That is all.
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Dear God is awesome. I don't like their other songs at all really.
That is all.
I Won't See You Tonight Part 1 would like a word with you.
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I don't actually dislike their other songs, I just think they're kind of boring and I don't like M Shadows' voice. (he is the singer right? :P)
They also look like douches, but then I'm a John Mayer fan so I can't comment on that.
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They also look like douches, but then I'm a John Mayer fan so I can't comment on that.
:lol
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I really don't know why, because I think it doesn't work at all with a lot of bands, but the image thing they've got going, along with their stage names and crap, just work for me.
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Band and stage names and images never effect my judgment of music, I suppose theirs is silly but it's a shame most people shun this band solely based on their image and the average IQ of their fans (though I can understand someone not liking M. Shadow's vocals).
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Dimitrius is this album really worth checking out?
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Dimitrius is this album really worth checking out?
If anything, you should check it out because Mike Portnoy is on it.
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Dimitrius is this album really worth checking out?
If anything, you should check it out because Mike Portnoy is on it.
:facepalm:
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(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/forumavatars/avatar_1518.png)
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(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/forumavatars/avatar_2956.jpg)
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When did I go to FiveEight?
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Time warp!
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Listened to City of Evil all the way through for the first time in ages last night. Goddamn what a good album. Can't believe I was disappointed with it when it first came out, but then I was hoping for a Waking the Fallen 2. Trashed and Scattered is an awesome track. I think what the new album is missing are the really fast palm-muted notes-then-chords that CoE is riddled with. That type of playing really gives a track energy and urgency, but they seem to be moving away from that style
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Listened to City of Evil all the way through for the first time in ages last night. Goddamn what a good album. Can't believe I was disappointed with it when it first came out, but then I was hoping for a Waking the Fallen 2. Trashed and Scattered is an awesome track. I think what the new album is missing are the really fast palm-muted notes-then-chords that CoE is riddled with. That type of playing really gives a track energy and urgency, but they seem to be moving away from that style
Which is slightly unfortunate, because that's the style I loved so much on CoE. The guitar work on that record is absolutely fantastic.
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I was never really into their music. I dig "Beast and the Harlot". Didn't really care for any of their other stuff. With MP playing drums on the new album, I picked it up the first day. I figured ""Nightmare" sounds pretty cool, what the heck, I'll bite."
Definitely glad I checked it out. I don't know that the whole album works for me yet. But, I really like a lot of it. "Danger Line" and "Natural Born Killers" stand out as early favorites for me. Mike's drumming is pretty awesome. The guitarists sound pretty good. But, there's something about the guitar sound during some of the riffs that's "off" for me. The rest of the instruments and songs have a different feel than these parts do. And, of course, now that I'm writing about it, I can't find a good example. But, overall a pretty good album.
And, congrats on the #1 first week. It might not be everyone's cup of tea. But, it's good to see something with guitars and real drums at the top of the album charts... Even if it's just for one week.
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And, congrats on the #1 first week. It might not be everyone's cup of tea. But, it's good to see something with guitars and real drums at the top of the album charts... Even if it's just for one week.
Very much this
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I've been listening to this album the past two weeks. Very solid release, I haven't been so into an album since Black Clouds And Silver Linings. I still think Save Me, Nightmare and Victim are the standouts, but I would add So Far Away to the list. The ending section with the "SO FAR AWWWAYY" chorus is sad, but very strong. Anyways, this is the only A7X album I own and I might purchase City Of Evil at some point, I will read this whole thread and then watch some YouTube and I'll decide.
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Re-listened to the self-titled album last night, enjoyed it a lot more than I expected. Unbound is still my favourite track from it, I really think it's underrated, but I also really enjoyed Lost. Even the autotune didn't put me off it. But listening to all 3 'new era' Sevenfold albums over the last few nights has made it clear to me that they're gradually slowing down and losing some of the energy that made me like them in the first place. I think they've lost some of the cocky attitude that came with them being very young when they made it big, and although they have legit reasons for the new album to have less swagger than previous releases I think it's the direction they're going to continue to take. The new album is very good, but I think they've lost their sense of fun.
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Just listened to the song Nightmare.
Not getting the what the fuzz is about unfortunately, I really wanted to like this cause I've been out of things to listen to lately.
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Re-listened to the self-titled album last night, enjoyed it a lot more than I expected. Unbound is still my favourite track from it, I really think it's underrated, but I also really enjoyed Lost. Even the autotune didn't put me off it. But listening to all 3 'new era' Sevenfold albums over the last few nights has made it clear to me that they're gradually slowing down and losing some of the energy that made me like them in the first place. I think they've lost some of the cocky attitude that came with them being very young when they made it big, and although they have legit reasons for the new album to have less swagger than previous releases I think it's the direction they're going to continue to take. The new album is very good, but I think they've lost their sense of fun.
I get what you're saying. But if Metallica can release Death Magnetic after the Loads I would say anything is possible.
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Picked up the new album yesterday, on my second listen now and it's good stuff. Similar to the previous album in that the first few songs are good but pretty straightforward, but the style gets more varied between songs after that, which I love.
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NOT THE I COULD
OR THAT I WOULD
LET IT BURN
UNDER MY SKIN
LET IT BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURN
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PIANOPIANOPIANO :metal
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:lol
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Just picked up Nightmare, I'll report back later.
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While in a local FYE pre-ordering my copy of Maiden's upcoming album, I heard the store was playing Nightmare in its entirety (I walked in during Fiction). I told my friends we weren't leaving until after Save Me.
Twas awesome.
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Funny you should mention Save Me, it's been stuck in my head for hours.
IS IT SOMETHING WE SAID
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Saaaaaaveee meeeeee
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Just realized I haven't posted my thoughts on this album yet. I think it's amazing, definitely on par with City of Evil and Waking the Fallen. Too lazy to write out a full thought process thing but whatever. Buried Alive, Fiction, and Welcome to the Family are my three favorites. God Hates Us is up there too, when I heard the screams I nearly shat my pants. :metal :metal
And I'll admit that I teared up a bit the first time I heard the last verse of Fiction.
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If I think City of Evil is good, and think Nightmare is great, what should I get next?
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Definitely Waking the Fallen.
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If I think City of Evil is good, and think Nightmare is great, what should I get next?
Definitely Waking the Fallen.
The last album you want to get from them is Sounding the Seventh Trumpet.
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Save me is a7x's best song.
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Ok. My thoughts on the album.
I'm going to be blunt, to say the least.
I think the majority of the songs sound very uninspired, like the band was on autopilot when they were written. Songs like Natural Born Killer and Tonight the World Dies are just boring. There's nothing interesting to keep me listening. However, this might change with more listens.
However, Nightmare is a good song, and Save Me is possibly their best ever song in my opinion.
Hmm.
3/10
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Never really could dig these guys. I just listened to the title track of the new album, really didn't do anything for me. Synester did a good solo, I'll give him that, but the song just really sounds quite boring, and every time that annoying bastard says "It's your fucking nightmare," I just cringed.
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I like the new album a bit more with each listen, which is a good sign. The title track and Fiction are the obvious standouts, but I really like a few of the others, like Buried Alive (despite being a TOTAL Metallica rip-off), Natural Born Killer and of course Save Us.
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Ok. My thoughts on the album.
I'm going to be blunt, to say the least.
I think the majority of the songs sound very uninspired, like the band was on autopilot when they were written. Songs like Natural Born Killer and Tonight the World Dies are just boring. There's nothing interesting to keep me listening. However, this might change with more listens.
However, Nightmare is a good song, and Save Me is possibly their best ever song in my opinion.
Hmm.
3/10
Really? I feel the exact opposite. I think this album has the fire that they were lacking in the self titled. To me it seems like The Rev's death inspired them to make an angry, emotional album and it works imo.
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Ok. My thoughts on the album.
I'm going to be blunt, to say the least.
I think the majority of the songs sound very uninspired, like the band was on autopilot when they were written. Songs like Natural Born Killer and Tonight the World Dies are just boring. There's nothing interesting to keep me listening. However, this might change with more listens.
However, Nightmare is a good song, and Save Me is possibly their best ever song in my opinion.
Hmm.
3/10
Really? I feel the exact opposite. I think this album has the fire that they were lacking in the self titled. To me it seems like The Rev's death inspired them to make an angry, emotional album and it works imo.
Their self-titled is my favourite of theirs :lol
I just love it, I think the songwriting is concise and each piece has it's own feel, and the melodies are flippin' great.
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Also, for any guitar players who like A7X, I've just finished a tab-book standard Power tab of Save Me. It'll be up on Ultimate Guitar in a few days.
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My favourite is also the self-titled, lots of energy and melody, with a few really excellent songs like Unbound and A Little Piece of Heaven. I like the new one as well, just not quite as much.
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Regretting not checking these guys out as soon as MP said he would be recording with them. I've been watching their videos on YouTube constantly for the past few days. A Little Piece of Heaven and Dear God are both awesome songs, which is cool because the style of those songs differ from their usual stuff which also rocks. Albums will be purchased soon.
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I'm learning Fiction by ear on keyboard. :metal
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finally bought the new album, pretty solid but the back end is just a little bit too slow (Victim, Tonight the World Dies, and Fiction all blended together for me the first time through). could have used one more speed-metally or at least up-tempo song IMO, especially since CoE is my favorite A7X album. so then i Youtubed "Lost It All" and this seems like the missing piece. it really should have made it on the standard edition of the album.
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A7X survivor up and running!
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=15745.new#new
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=15746.0
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Cool!
I don't know either of those albums at all!
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Cool!
I don't know either of those albums at all!
You should get to know WtF.
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Cool!
I don't know either of those albums at all!
You should get to know WtF.
This is totally true, although obviously it is very different to their new stuff. The album is worth listening to for the second half of Second Heartbeat alone. Personally I think Remenissions - Desecrate Through Reverence - Eternal Rest - Second Heartbeat is the strongest run of songs on any of their albums, and indeed one of the best of any of the albums I've ever heard
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Cool!
I don't know either of those albums at all!
You should get to know WtF.
This is totally true, although obviously it is very different to their new stuff. The album is worth listening to for the second half of Second Heartbeat alone. Personally I think Remenissions - Desecrate Through Reverence - Eternal Rest - Second Heartbeat is the strongest run of songs on any of their albums, and indeed one of the best of any of the albums I've ever heard
Especially the Desecrate/Eternal transition.
YOU'RE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAALL DEAD TO ME *face raping solo intro*
:metal
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The second rounds are up.
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Man Nightmare is a great album. Sure it loses a little steam right before the Fiction/Save Me one-two-cockpunch, but so many good songs.
My favorites:
Buried Alive
Fiction
Save Me
Nightmare
God Hates Us
Welcome to the Family
Danger Line and Tonight the World Dies are kinda weak, but not really all that bad.
Not sure how this stacks up against City of Evil. I haven't listened to that album in a long time.
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Danger Line is one of my favorites on the album :sad: the chorus is a bit underwhelming, but every other part of the song is great.
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Danger Line is one of my favorites on the album :sad: the chorus is a bit underwhelming, but every other part of the song is great.
For serious. Syn and Zack really upped their game with all those fills.
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I'm learning Fiction by ear on keyboard. :metal
same here.
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the Fiction/Save Me one-two-cockpunch
couldn't have said it better
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I still cannot get over how amazing Save Me is. It really is the best song they have produced ever.
God Hates Us has clicked for me too. Chorus riff is epic. Shadows does a good job on the growls too.
I can definately say that Nightmare is one of my favourite release of 2010 too.
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Bought Nightmare, Self titled and Waking the Fallen in the past week. Nightmare is the best, self titled is pretty good, haven't listened to Fallen as much, but it is the weakest of the three (I did get a free t-shirt with it so I can't complain though).
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Is it wrong that I don't want to buy the album because their image pisses me off and M. Shadows is highly annoying?
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Passing up an album because you don't like the way a band members choose to dress themselves in the morning is pretty bad, yeah. As for Shadows, depends on what you find annoying. If it's his voice then there's nothing wrong with that.
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they dont even dress the way the used to now, not that it ever mattered at all
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Is it wrong that I don't want to buy the album because their image pisses me off and M. Shadows is highly annoying?
It's stupid if that's what you mean by "wrong".
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Bought Nightmare, Self titled and Waking the Fallen in the past week. Nightmare is the best, self titled is pretty good, haven't listened to Fallen as much, but it is the weakest of the three (I did get a free t-shirt with it so I can't complain though).
wut
Is it wrong that I don't want to buy the album because their image pisses me off and M. Shadows is highly annoying?
Is it wrong that I don't want to buy the album because their image pisses me off and M. Shadows is highly annoying?
It's stupid if that's what you mean by "wrong".
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Waking the Fallen is by a long way the weakest of those three.
Also, am I missing something on the M. Shadows having an annoying voice thing? I mean, ok he used to (heard the debut the other day, he sounded horrible), but he's been having vocal coaching since City of Evil and I think he has a really powerful and versatile voice. Do people continue to make the comments because of what he used to sound like, rather than how he sounds now?
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Waking the Fallen is by a long way the BEST of those three. The only part of the album that I can fault is the outro to And All Things Will End.
The only reason M. Shadows ever sounded bad was because he had to have an operation on his throat or whatever between Waking the Fallen and City of Evil.
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Waking the Fallen is by a long way the BEST of those three. The only part of the album that I can fault is the outro to And All Things Will End.
This.
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Also, am I missing something on the M. Shadows having an annoying voice thing? I mean, ok he used to (heard the debut the other day, he sounded horrible), but he's been having vocal coaching since City of Evil and I think he has a really powerful and versatile voice. Do people continue to make the comments because of what he used to sound like, rather than how he sounds now?
For the most part he's fine, but he has a way of delivering some lines that really annoys me. Like "as your nightmare comes to life" at 5:20 of Nightmare. It doesn't ruin the song, but I do get what some people would mean when they call him annoying.
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Also, am I missing something on the M. Shadows having an annoying voice thing?
I love City of Evil, but on some songs he just put waaaaay too much whine into his voice.
He's much better on Nightmare and the self-titled... for the most part.
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Also, am I missing something on the M. Shadows having an annoying voice thing?
I love City of Evil, but on some songs he just put waaaaay too much whine into his voice.
True, like on the end of M.I.A. he ruins a perfect song.
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i'm not so much into this album, it's moderately good.
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Is A7X on Dime's NAB list? They don't have any shows listed.
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The only part of the album that I can fault is the outro to And All Things Will End.
I demand an explanation.
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Waking the Fallen is by a long way the weakest of those three.
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b279/prostheticsummer/12822508065761.png)
And as for his voice, it's not really surprising he has the whine he does, considering he had vocal training from Axl Roses' voice coach. You don't hear people complaining about Axl's voice
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You don't hear people complaining about Axl's voice
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b279/prostheticsummer/12822508065761.png)
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The only part of the album that I can fault is the outro to And All Things Will End.
I demand an explanation.
For why I think the outro to And All Things Will End sucks?
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You don't hear people complaining about Axl's voice
well ok, at least not about his old voice
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You don't hear people complaining about Axl's voice
well ok, at least not about his old voice
Erm...
I certainly have.
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Yep. Me too.
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The only part of the album that I can fault is the outro to And All Things Will End.
I demand an explanation.
For why I think the outro to And All Things Will End sucks?
Yes.
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The only part of the album that I can fault is the outro to And All Things Will End.
I demand an explanation.
For why I think the outro to And All Things Will End sucks?
Yes.
Umm... have you heard the outro?
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:lol
Yeah. It's pretty horrible sounding. Just a complete mess.
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THATS THAT POINT :facepalm:
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Doesn't stop it from sounding bad.
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Doesn't stop it from sounding bad.
Yeah, I agree.
It's like with the outro of Misunderstood. "You misunderstood (ololol) it, it's supposed to be that way!!!1 :neverusethis:"
Shut the fuck up, that doesn't stop it from sounding awful.
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Can't turn out right..... Get it? GET IT? ;)
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Yeah, I agree.
It's like with the outro of Misunderstood. "You misunderstood (ololol) it, it's supposed to be that way!!!1 :neverusethis:"
Shut the fuck up, that doesn't stop it from sounding awful.
You're right, what stops it from sounding awful is how awesome it sounds.
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misunderstood outro is awesome. but and all things will end mightve been cool if the soloing wasnt so shitty
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You put your DT in my A7X!
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Yep. Me too.
(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/forumavatars/avatar_2956.jpg)
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Nightmare is a pretty great album, not sure yet if i like it more then their self-titled, but i've only heard Nightmare about 2 times now, so only time will tell.
Buried Alive is easily my favorite this far, i notice that a lot of you has praised Save Me (which didn't grab my attention the few times i've heard it), but i will focus on it a bit more.
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https://nl.justin.tv/maniacoa7x/b/271727473
Anyone else watching Mike and A7X live tonight?
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Here's the whole show.
https://nl.justin.tv/maniacoa7x/b/271727473
The bass is way high in the mix and sounds like shit.
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that sounds bad
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The guitarist can't sing for shit :-\
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The mix gets a lot better later in.
And yeah, the band needs to invite Portnoy to do some backing vocals, as much as I thought I'd never say that. Looks like those guys put on a hell of a show, though.
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I don't like how the camera barely goes to portnoy, and he's in shadow.
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That was a mistake that gets corrected later on.
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The mix gets a lot better later in.
And yeah, the band needs to invite Portnoy to do some backing vocals, as much as I thought I'd never say that. Looks like those guys put on a hell of a show, though.
Hell yeah dude they put on one of the best shows I've seen. Their energy is fucking insane
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yea that video doesnt do them justice
they have improved so much though
i saw them twice in the city of evil era, and they were meh
but on the self titled tour they sounded 100x better
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Just watched A7X's "All Excess" DVD because I've been getting into 'em more lately. I really have to wonder about how Portnoy spends so much time with them, as a recovered alcoholic and all. I mean, they're literally getting hammered for one half of the 60 minute video.
I'd like to see if they say anything about how the on tour antics have been this year 1.) in light of their best friend overdosing and 2.) with a recovered alcoholic/addict on board.
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I hope to god that they play Save Me when I see them in November.
They won't though.
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I hope to god that they play Save Me when I see them in November.
They won't though.
That'd be a real Nightmare.
:neverusethis:
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Since the "MP left DT" thread is locked, I'll post here instead:
Isolated drum cam of MP playing Nightmare
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wrnNTydIIA
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You put your DT in my A7X!
LOL
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The guitarist can't sing for shit :-\
Which is why I always loved Rev's vocal. Zacky and Syn suck live!
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they arent that loud in concert. thats just a direct feed
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Saw the feed, that mix was horrible!
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but the rev had such a unique voice. love it in pinkly smooth as well
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So apparently there are big news that are coming... Anyone think that MP is gonna join full time?
https://deathbatnews.wordpress.com/2010/11/29/revolver-sits-down-with-m-shadows-big-news-coming/
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Maybe a DVD or something?
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One of those 2 would be my guess, but I'm leaning towards MP joining full time.
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One of those 2 would be my guess, but I'm leaning towards MP joining full time.
:(
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A7X is damn good at hyping things up...
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One of those 2 would be my guess, but I'm leaning towards MP joining full time.
:(
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Why the sadfaces about MP joining A7X?
He would be a good addition to the band tbh. :P
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Well no shit. He's a good addition to any band.
But he should be in DT!
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They have brought the Rev back from the dead using Frankenstein technology. Of course, this means no more singing.
Though, I think undead groans might actually be an improvement on the Rev's vocal style.
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:lol :lol
He should replace M. Shadows.
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>:(
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:biggrin:
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Well no shit. He's a good addition to any band.
But he should be in DT!
I don't really think so anymore, after all the things he did after the "break-up", i don't think he deserves to be in DT.
But again that's what i think. :P
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Though, I think undead groans might actually be an improvement on the Rev's vocal style.
Hell yeah. Check out Pinkly Smooth for confirmation.
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Though, I think undead groans might actually be an improvement on the Rev's vocal style.
Hell yeah. Check out Pinkly Smooth for confirmation.
HOW DARE YOU? SHE'S A NICE LADY!
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Though, I think undead groans might actually be an improvement on the Rev's vocal style.
FAIL
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So actually there is NO big announcement ...
https://deathbatnews.wordpress.com/2010/12/01/no-big-announcement-about-avenged-sevenfold-coming-from-m-shadows/
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the rev's vocals are my favorite parts of the songs they are in
OOHHHH II AM, UNBROOKENN
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Revisited Raising the Fallen over the past few days. It's a lot better than their two newest ones. Obviously there's a big difference and they've become more mainstream, but while they have a few good newer songs, Fallen actually feels like they were writing an album rather than a collection of songs.
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another topic?
Portnoy done?
https://www.mikeportnoy.com/forum/m2619687.aspx
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From MP's Twitter: 'There's a lot of things going on in my life I wish I could openly & honestly talk about at the moment, but cannot...but when I can, I will...'
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Yup, this is in Joe's MP thread as well, potentially interesting if true. If he isn't going to playing with them then I wonder who they would get instead!
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City Of Evil > Waking The Fallen > Nightmare > Self Titled > Sounding The 7th Trumpet
Agree? Disagree? Lets have a dialogue.
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Self-titled > Nightmare > City of Evil > Waking the Fallen >>>>>>>>>>>> lol 7th trumpet
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For me
Waking The Fallen > Sounding The Seventh Trumpet > City of Evil > Diamonds In The Rough > Nightmare > Avenged Sevenfold
Yeah yeah I know people hate STST but it's the album that got me into the band in the first place and although it's messy I love the energy of those songs, not to mention the drumming is out of this world considering how old they were when it was recorded. I admit, were it released now I probably wouldn't give it a second listen but the nostalgia factor alone keeps it a fave for me.
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City of Evil > Waking the Fallen > Nightmare > Avenged Sevenfold > Diamonds in the Rough >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sounding the Seventh Trumpet
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Self-titled > Nightmare > City of Evil > Waking the Fallen >>>>>>>>>>>> lol 7th trumpet
just switch nightmare with WTF and that's my list
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Waking the Fallen > City of Evil > Nightmare > Self Titled > Sounding the Seveneth Trumpet
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City Of Evil > Waking The Fallen > Nightmare > Self Titled > Sounding The 7th Trumpet
Agree? Disagree? Lets have a dialogue.
Agreed.
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City of Evil > Waking the Fallen > Nightmare > Avenged Sevenfold > Diamonds in the Rough >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sounding the Seventh Trumpet
Dimi knows his shit.
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Ah yeah I also agree with that, didn't see there was the exact same rankings but including Diamonds In The Rough.
Although I think a few more ">"s should go in there.
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Nightmare > City of Evil > Waking the Fallen >>>>>> Self-Titled
I haven't listened to StST.
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I haven't listened to StST.
Good, don't.
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Nightmare > City of Evil > S/T > Waking the Fallen > Diamonds in the Rough > STST
a7x are pretty much my favorite band to ever exist, with only a few bands being on par. I'm really looking forward to the new song coming this weekend, too.
I also agree with the above statement, STST is pretty awful, haha. Warmness on the Soul and To End the Rapture are pretty decent songs, but the guys have much better to offer on their other releases.
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I haven't listened to StST.
Good, don't.
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STST is worth it just for To End the Rapture... Shattered By Broken Dreams is pretty cool as well.
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I haven't listened to StST.
Good, don't.
:lol
Well now I just have to listen to it.
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From the A7X Facebook page
Avenged Sevenfold regretfully announce they will not be performing at the upcoming Soundwave in Australia. After much effort, the band decided that they could not offer fans the live experience they have come to expect and didn’t want to disappoint them. Avenged Sevenfold will return to Australia soon to headline their own tour.
Hmm, could not offer fans the live experience they have come to expect? Sounds like MP may be out.
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Yeah, it's disappointing to hear that. I'm not completely sure if it's all about MP but it probably has a good deal to do with it.
I hope things get smoothed out soon.
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I can't understand how you like this band people, the line up seems the new x-men movie:
M. Shadows
Zacky Vengeance
Synyster Gates
Johnny Christ
Sounds artificial a lot and it's like a pop band masked between guitars.
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I don't like their image or the fact that they have stage names, but to be honest I heard the music before I saw them, heard their names or knew that they had a lot of fans that I wouldn't like, so I just judge them by the music...
Disappointing that Mike Portnoy isn't staying with them - as a band that has produced a lot of great music but could potentially become better or worse depending on what direction they go, I think they'd really have benefited from his influence, as well as just his drumming talent. If it really is like he makes out, that he was willing to stay with them but they let him go, then they seem to be idiots.
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I can't understand how you like this band people, the line up seems the new x-men movie:
M. Shadows
Zacky Vengeance
Synyster Gates
Johnny Christ
Sounds artificial a lot and it's like a pop band masked between guitars.
If you have a problem with the music by all means bring it up...
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I can't understand how you like this band people, the line up seems the new x-men movie:
M. Shadows
Zacky Vengeance
Synyster Gates
Johnny Christ
Sounds artificial a lot and it's like a pop band masked between guitars.
If you have a problem with the music by all means bring it up...
Yes, of course. I won't troll. Have fun with the band.
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I can't understand how you like this band people, the line up seems the new x-men movie:
M. Shadows
Zacky Vengeance
Synyster Gates
Johnny Christ
Sounds artificial a lot and it's like a pop band masked between guitars.
The stage names were made when they were in their early 20's, so it was basically all just for the fun of it. They stuck, which I'm sure the band doesn't really care about, but some people see it as immature, I guess.
Their image is completely different these days, as now they dress, talk, and act just like hard rock stars. In the beginning, they wore all black and tried to make themselves out as a dark band, but in the recent years they've all grown up a considerable bit.
And yeah, judge them by their music, man! I thought the band name "Between the Buried and Me" was kind of stupid, but then I listened to the music and I ended up loving them. Don't judge a book by its cover! :)
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Regarding A7X exiting the soundwave festival, seems like Avenged Sevenfold were being a total pain in the ass.
For those who don't know, soundwave is a huge metal festival that tours Australia, here's the website where you can view the lineup https://www.soundwavefestival.com/
This is from the soundwave organiser's twitter:
"Avenged have decided, despite having originally confirmed a mid afternoon spot, that they are now unwilling to play unless it is night time. At the same time, they are refusing to play at the same time as Maiden. Which leads me to believe they want Maiden's time moved! While Avenged are a massive band, having sold around 8,000 copies of their new album Nationally, I wont be able to move Maiden's time slot. I have now reached the point where I can no longer mess around 70 other bands and 180,000 ticket holders to appease this band's nonsense. I have every expectation that they will go back on their agreement and cancel. I guess I'd better start lining up a replacement. Let's have your ideas people!"
So, the festival goes from 12pm to 10pm and Avenged wanted to play in the dark but did not want to clash with Iron Maiden who were headlining the gig fro 8pm to 10pm. It gets dark here at around 8pm during summer. I don't know if they were purposely screwing them around because they knew they weren't going to do the show.
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I can't understand how you like this band people, the line up seems the new x-men movie:
M. Shadows
Zacky Vengeance
Synyster Gates
Johnny Christ
Sounds artificial a lot and it's like a pop band masked between guitars.
The stage names were made when they were in their early 20's, so it was basically all just for the fun of it. They stuck, which I'm sure the band doesn't really care about, but some people see it as immature, I guess.
Their image is completely different these days, as now they dress, talk, and act just like hard rock stars. In the beginning, they wore all black and tried to make themselves out as a dark band, but in the recent years they've all grown up a considerable bit.
And yeah, judge them by their music, man! I thought the band name "Between the Buried and Me" was kind of stupid, but then I listened to the music and I ended up loving them. Don't judge a book by its cover! :)
Actually the names came about even earlier than that, as they recorded STST when they were all about 17, and their names appear in the booklet for that album. I agree with what you say about them acting like hard rock stars now, and to me the names still fit well with that image. I mean, "Shadows" is no more ridiculous than "Slash."
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So who should we put money on as the new drummer?
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Someone no one really knows, probably. It'd be for the best, I think, to have a lower profile drummer step in and blow everyone away, so it'd feel more like a "unit"... since that's what the band wants anyways.
Also, their new song 4:00 a.m. sounds amazing... the first listen blew me away.
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Heretic, I had to edit your post; saying or even hinting at where to find pirated material is against the rules. Please have a look at the rules and be a bit more careful from now on.
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Aye, I'm sorry about that, I assumed you had to link to the material to get in trouble! Thanks!
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When the news broke out that Mike left DT and that he stated "well A7X are a band without a drummer and Im without a band" it made me sick to my stomach. I loved the new 'nightmare'album as it was really well done and set this band apart from the rest that they could write some really good and meaningful songs. My girlfriend was a fan but I hated their music and only bought the album because of MP.
When Nightmare came out, I was listening to it everyday. When the above happened I couldnt even listen to the album (or the other A7X albums I bought since then) and hid them away from my collection in an old draw (i know excessive aye, just the way i was feeling).
Well, when Mike announced he was no longer the drummer for this band, I started listening to the album once again and am very glad as I think they did a great job with it (even though I typicall dislike that type of music). Im glad they decided to move on from Mike because I think they are right in saying that this whole DT episode certainly was taking away from their most successful release.
Any one else in the same sort of boat?
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First of all, when did MP say that? MP and A7X had already said he was gonna be touring with them way before he left DT so your inference is way off base.
I don't get it, you stopped liking Nightmare because MP left DT? I don't see why you should feel that way. DT is my second favorite band ever, but MP leaving DT didn't change my opinion that Nightmare is a great album.
I agree about what A7X did with MP, but really he was only slated to tour with them until the end of the year, which he did.
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First of all, when did MP say that? MP and A7X had already said he was gonna be touring with them way before he left DT so your inference is way off base.
He definitely said that after he left DT.
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First of all, when did MP say that? MP and A7X had already said he was gonna be touring with them way before he left DT so your inference is way off base.
He definitely said that after he left DT.
I must've missed this. Can you link me to it? Becuase I really don't recall reading MP say that.
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Why would you ever stop listening to something because the drummer left another band you like?
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First of all, when did MP say that? MP and A7X had already said he was gonna be touring with them way before he left DT so your inference is way off base.
He definitely said that after he left DT.
I must've missed this. Can you link me to it? Becuase I really don't recall reading MP say that.
Dimitrius..that's a definite quote from MP. I mean, we'd have to do some seaching through the multitude of interviews he's done, but he did indeed say that. If I can find it tomorrow, I'll link it, but don't hold your breath. ;)
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Yeah there's too much to sort through. Trust us. If we wanted to fool you about something, it'd be way cooler than this.
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Well, I'm sorry for that then. I thought it was an inference since I personally never heard MP saying something like that and was under the impression that he wasn't expecting to become a full time member and just doing the tour as a tour member.
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Well, I'm sorry for that then. I thought it was an inference since I personally never heard MP saying something like that and was under the impression that he wasn't expecting to become a full time member and just doing the tour as a tour member.
Huh? He just said "They're a band without a drummer and I'm a drummer without a band." Nothing more, nothing less.
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Well, I'm sorry for that then. I thought it was an inference since I personally never heard MP saying something like that and was under the impression that he wasn't expecting to become a full time member and just doing the tour as a tour member.
Huh? He just said "They're a band without a drummer and I'm a drummer without a band." Nothing more, nothing less.
I read too much into it.
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And yes, he did say that statement on the Eddie Trunk Show.
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I run a popular a7x forum called chapter-four, we've been around since 2004 and the band have posted on the forum in the past.
we also have the largest photo gallery on the internet with over 15,000 a7x pictures, which include magazine scans and live photos.
if you guys are interested in joining, the link is https://chapter-four.info (https://chapter-four.info)
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Just listened to Fiction again for the first time in awhile. It's feels surreal to hear Rev's voice singing that song.
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Newly-recorded A7X song to be released soon! :eek
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu5BJ33BLHY
Preview of the new song
dfsdfsdfsd THAT SCREAMING
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Love the screaming. Whats the song for?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu5BJ33BLHY
Preview of the new song
dfsdfsdfsd THAT SCREAMING
OH FUCK YES
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MORE A7X RELEASES YAY
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This song is going to own so hard, I get a Waking the Fallen feeling while hearing the preview... it's insane.
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What's the song called? The link's broken.
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Oh, they must've taken it down. It's called "I'm Not Ready to Die," apparently.
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This song is going to own so hard, I get a Waking the Fallen feeling while hearing the preview... it's insane.
I desperately want to make some joke about The Rev, but after several rough drafts nothing I can think of has much funny to it.
Fuck it.
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These guys tore me a new asshole on Friday night. :metal
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What's the song called? The link's broken.
It keeps being uploaded and then taken down due to copyright
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This song is going to own so hard, I get a Waking the Fallen feeling while hearing the preview... it's insane.
I desperately want to make some joke about The Rev, but after several rough drafts nothing I can think of has much funny to it.
Fuck it.
:P
I really do hope this song will be at the six-seven minute mark, a7x does a fantastic job with longer songs. That, and I'm hoping for a killer solo.
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I was right, new song is 7 minutes
and it's INSANE.
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Link please
edit - Never mind, got it. Listening now :caffeine:
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solid song.
outro was pretty cool
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That new song is awesome as fuck.
Find it odd there was very little promo for it though...
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Does anyone know when / where / if you can buy it in the UK? It only seemed to be on US iTunes so I just had to download it wherever I could find it, but the preview I can hear on US iTunes sounds clearer than it.
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Wasn't feeling the new song the first four minutes but things get pretty awesome starting at 3:55.
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So how's everyone been liking the new song? It's really good, imo, a good mixture of all their styles. If their next album is like this, with more longer tracks, I'll be sold.
Nightmare owned, too, but I feel like the strongest songs were the longer ones (save for Tonight the World Dies, my favorite from the album).
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Still haven't listened to it, can you provide a YouTube link?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKP9RwoTWwE
:metal
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An alright song, seems like it could've been in their self-titled or Nightmare.
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Yeah this is def. a kick ass song! :metal
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https://www.facebook.com/AvengedSevenfold?sk=app_135177179897884
A7X are asking the fans to vote on which songs should be played on the second leg of their tour that's coming up, and every song from all 5 albums is up for grabs.
Everyone seriously needs to vote for Sidewinder. That song would be absolutely killer live.
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i voted for all the stuff they never play. but they have alot of dumb fans who somehow need to hear unholy confessions again
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i voted for all the stuff they never play. but they have alot of dumb fans who somehow need to hear unholy confessions again
Yeah it seems like everyone's voting for all the songs they already play, which is dumb. I love most of those songs, but they have some longer, more complex songs I'd love to see performed live, like Strength of the World, M.I.A., Sidewinder, The Wicked End, I Won't See You Tonight pt. 1, and so on.
I'd like for them to play their new song, Not Ready to Die, live, too.
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I fail to see why Save Me isn't the top of that poll
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i voted for all the stuff they never play. but they have alot of dumb fans who somehow need to hear unholy confessions again
IKNOWRITE!
My A7X nerd rage was at maximum levels when I saw the tally.
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i voted for all the stuff they never play. but they have alot of dumb fans who somehow need to hear unholy confessions again
IKNOWRITE!
My A7X nerd rage was at maximum levels when I saw the tally.
I think all of ours was :lol
I have this incurable need to see Sidewinder live. It would be the greatest moment ever.
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Yes. AND STRENGTH OF THE WORLD GOD DAMNIT DAT SOLO
Also Streets would be cool to see live.
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The current results of the Setlist poll are as follows:
SIDEWINDER 5.11%
NOT READY TO DIE 4.86%
NATURAL BORN KILLER 4.5%
I WON'T SEE YOU TONIGHT, PART 1 4.48%
CHAPTER FOUR 4.13%
NIGHTMARE 4.04%
SAVE ME 4%
CROSSROADS 3.94%
DANCING DEAD 3.78%
SECOND HEARTBEAT 3.75%
BLINDED IN CHAINS 3.5%
TRASHED AND SCATTERED 3.37%
VICTIM 3.35%
CRITICAL ACCLAIM 3.24%
BROMPTON COCKTAIL 3.1%
LOST 3.1%
WELCOME TO THE FAMILY 3.06%
GUNSLINGER 2.88%
AFTERLIFE 2.84%
Sidewinder #1?! I will definitely be seeing them on this tour if that's the case!
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Why does no one want to see A Little Piece of Heaven? :angry:
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Why does no one want to see A Little Piece of Heaven? :angry:
I guess it's mostly because they've played that fairly often on tours since the S/T was released.
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I'm just bitter because they didn't play it when I saw them.
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I saw them live last week and they played both ALPOH and Save Me. My two favorite song in the same concert, fuck yeah :metal
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I saw them live last week and they played both ALPOH and Save Me. My two favorite song in the same concert, fuck yeah :metal
You lucky bastard!
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after watching videos of save me live,they need a 3rd guitar player. it sounds terrible when they drop the backing in the beginning to do the signature duels.
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OH SHIT DANCING DEAD
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I forgot how awesome Diamonds in the Rough is. It's better than the actual album in my opinion.
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I forgot how awesome Diamonds in the Rough is. It's better than the actual album in my opinion.
Yeah man. Demons is a fantastic song
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Demons, Until the End, Tension (that solo <3) Dancing Dead = top tier A7X songs.
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There's so much epic riffage going on in that album it's ridiculous. It makes me smile every time I listen to it.
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I love Diamonds. Their second best studio effort.
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i voted for all the stuff they never play. but they have alot of dumb fans who somehow need to hear unholy confessions again
Yeah it seems like everyone's voting for all the songs they already play, which is dumb. I love most of those songs, but they have some longer, more complex songs I'd love to see performed live, like Strength of the World, M.I.A., Sidewinder, The Wicked End, I Won't See You Tonight pt. 1, and so on.
I'd like for them to play their new song, Not Ready to Die, live, too.
Strength of the World was the first Avenged Sevenfold song I ever heard, so it has a special place in my heart. I love almost all their stuff. I love I Won't See You Tonight pt. 1, Chapter Four, Warmness on the Soul, etc. I have 79 of their songs marked as favorites on my ipod. I like the new stuff too. It's just different, not quite like the same band.
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Yeah they don't repeat themselves for the most part, which I love. I hope the next record is something fresh, yet while combining all the work they've done in the past.
And I'd like to see more songs in the style of Save Me, aaauggh.
If A7X released an album of songs on the level IWSYTpt1, Sidewinder, Strength of the World, Save Me, M.I.A., etc, I'd be quite a happy man.
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STREETS!!!!!!!!!!
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STST is a great album. Doesn't get enough love.
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STST is a great album. Doesn't get enough love.
This is truth. My least favorite A7X... but still solid as fuck.
BREAKING THEIR HOLD :metal
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STST is a great album. Doesn't get enough love.
I feel like half of A7X fans these days haven't even listened to it.
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Yeah, a lot of current fans probably haven't listened to STST. I don't listen to much from it often either, but I gladly acknowledge it and it's still a pretty good listen. The maturity from it to Waking the Fallen is unbelievable, though.
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Definitely. Waking the Falling has to be my favorite album of theirs. They really stepped up their game. To be honest, it was because they got Mr. Gates. Before him there was no lead guitar so Zacky had to do everything, but when Syn came along there was less pressure on Zacky, and they were really able to grow.
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Sad to say I'm one of those "Don't listen to STST" fans :sadpanda: I've listened to it somewhat but I don't actually have it - I like the situation of "I really like every A7X song I have" instead of "I like most and appreciate the others as part of their immature debut".
Dancing Dead is one of my favourite A7X songs. Honestly though City Of Evil is just awesome. At least half of my top 20 A7X songs would come from City Of Evil, I think, it's just their best work. M.I.A is my favourite song by them. I Won't See You Tonight Pt.1 and Save Me are some of the next ones, along with other awesome COE songs like Sidewinder, Strength Of The World etc. Does anyone else really like And All Things Must End? Probably my second favourite from Waking The Fallen.
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And All Things Will End is absolutely awesome, but the ending is kind of like "what just happened," haha.
Waking the Fallen has a lot of awesome songs, though, I'd probably say I Won't See You Tonight pt. 1, Remenissions, And All Things Will End, Chapter Four, and Second Heartbeat are my favorites.
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And All Things Will End is a KILLER track. The riffage is sick. I used to rock out to that shit all the time. In fact, I'm listeing to it right now. :metal Man do I miss old A7X.
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Man do I miss old A7X.
Me too man. Waking the Fallen is such a masterpiece.
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And All Things Will End is still their best album closer... well... shit I don't know if I can say that since Nightmare... tie for now.
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In terms of album closers:
Save Me > M.I.A. > And All Things Will End > Dear God > Shattered By Broken Dreams (With Save Me and M.I.A. basically being tied)
And I don't particularly miss old A7X at all. They've matured a good bit and Nightmare was a fantastic offering. If they take things in the Not Ready to Die direction, we'll most likely get a masterpiece.
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Man do I miss old A7X.
Me too man. Waking the Fallen is such a masterpiece.
Agreed.
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In terms of album closers:
Dear God > Shattered By Broken Dreams
wat
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In terms of album closers:
Dear God > Shattered By Broken Dreams
wat
::)
It's a good song, but the production is kind of "ehh" and I think there's better songs on STST in any case.
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Yes, but as an album closer it beats the shit out of Dear God.
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Maybe. The first time I listened to the S/T, though, I was surprised that that was the kind of song they chose to close the album, and I really have a soft spot for the song. :o
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I'm kinda indifferent to the S/T overall. Lot of great stuff on it. But then I listened to Diamonds In The Rough there were a few songs that were better than everything on the S/T.
TL;DR: It's not that S/T has bad songs, it's that it doesn't have (more) great songs.
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As far as the closing songs go, M.I.A is my favourite A7X song, Save Me is one of my top songs, I just talked about how I love And All Things Must End (although I'd rank it a little lower than Save Me)... the other two would be way down there though. I have problems with the sound of STST anyway but Shattered By Broken Dreams is a pretty cool song as far as that album goes. Dear God is one of my least favourites from the self titled. It's got some really cool sounding bits and I do really like the solo but I'm just not a big fan of the overall feel of the song compared to the rest of their stuff though. Still, I much prefer it to Shattered By Broken Dreams just because the good bits do actually sound really good.
I don't think there's anything on Diamonds that's better than everything on the self titled; Dancing Dead is my favourite from Diamonds and I'd say at least Afterlife is better than it. But I do agree with the general point though, the self titled could really have used some of the stuff from Diamonds. Replace A Little Piece Of Heaven (not a fan of that song) with Dancing Dead and add a few more of the good Diamonds songs (none of the Diamonds songs are really bad, so take your pick) it would have been much better.
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I don't think there's anything on Diamonds that's better than everything on the self titled
Listen to Demons again. It's an injustice to The Rev that one of the song that most displays he skills didn't make the cut.
What pisses me off is that the S/T is 52 minutes long. They could have put a few more songs on it.
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I've listened to Demons a lot, like I said Dancing Dead is the best thing on Diamonds, and Afterlife > Dancing Dead so...
And yeah, that makes it even more stupid that some of the songs from Diamonds weren't on it, assuming they were finished and ready to go. They could easily have put at least two on without any fuss about the album being long, and even more if they replaced the two longest and weakest songs on the album with them...
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Demons>Dancing Dead>The Fight>Crossroads>Tension>Until The End>Girl I Know
For posterity.
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Dancing Dead > Demons > Tension > Until the End > The Fight > Crossroads > Girl I Know
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My ideal S/T track listing with all 17 songs... yes I am aware that would be an obscenely long CD.
1. Critical Acclaim
2. Almost Easy
3. Girl I Know
4. Scream
5. Afterlife (Ideally it would be a mix of the album version and alt with the added string sections)
6. Crossroads
7. Gunslinger
8. Demons
9. Tension
10. The Fight
11. Unbound
12. Brompton Cocktail
13. Until The End
14. Lost
15. Dear God
16. Dancing Dead
17. Little Piece Of Heaven
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Man do I miss old A7X.
Me too man. Waking the Fallen is such a masterpiece.
It's a top 20 album for me, at least.
Also I liked the title track on Nightmare, but I just couldn't get into the album. I might try again some other time, but without The Rev, it just doesn't feel right. Even if it was MP on the drums it's just not the same.
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I'm pretty sure WTF, CoE, and Nightmare would make it into my top 20, but I'm biased. :)
And, the Rev not being on the album doesn't change the fact that all of Nightmare is fantastic. It's such a step up from the S/T and there's not really a bad song imo. Some less good ones than others, but overall it's a great album, you really should give it more listens if you're a fan, because I'm really surprised you can't "get into it" especially when it's one of their best.
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Halfway into Nightmare I started to lose interest, still a good album though.
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1. Critical Acclaim
WTF
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Halfway into Nightmare I started to lose interest, still a good album though.
You've finally come around, Dylan! :yarr
I will agree that A7X didn't do themselves any favors by putting 3 ballad-esque songs in a row, especially after the monster song that precedes them. They should have definitely put a heavier, upbeat song in between those three to add a bit more diversity.
But those 3 songs lead into Save Me, which is one of their best songs ever, so I'm not too perturbed. That, and Tonight the World Dies is amazing.
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Halfway into Nightmare I started to lose interest, still a good album though.
You've finally come around, Dylan! :yarr
Oh I've always been a fan, just not near as much as other bands :P
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1. Critical Acclaim
WTF
Re-read the post.
A7X didn't do themselves any favors by putting 3 ballad-esque songs in a row, especially after the monster song that precedes them. They should have definitely put a heavier, upbeat song in between those three to add a bit more diversity.
Yeah. They should have put 4:00 AM on it. Between Victim and Tonight the World Dies.
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OH. PHEW!
I almost had a heart attack when I first read that :lol
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Two videos posted of A7X performing Chapter Four and Second Heartbeat. (https://deathbatnews.wordpress.com/2011/08/26/videos-rolling-in-from-avenged-sevenfolds-performance-at-uproar-in-camden/)
Both of these songs haven't been played recently so it's awesome hearing them, and the new stage production owns. Also, some recent news involving the drummer situation and eventual writing of the next album:
Also on Avenged Sevenfold’s future agenda is the status of the drum chair, vacated after the December 2009 death of James “The Rev” Sullivan and temporarily filled by ex-Dream Theater member Mike Portnoy before Ilejay took over at the beginning of the year. “(Ilejay) is great,” Shadows says. “He’s 23 now, and the first show he played was in front of 16,000 people, and from there we went to Rock Am Ring, 80 or 90,000 people in Germany. As far as personality and his playing, he’s our guy, but we haven’t been able to write a record with him yet. So we want to make sure for his good and for our good that he can write with us and bring something to the creative and be comfortable in the situation. We’re just trying to work towards that, and hopefully everything works out ’cause we love the guy.”
And elsewhere it was said that they'll probably take a few months off after the tour to have to themselves before even thinking about writing a new album. If it's anything like Not Ready to Die it'll be great, though. :metal
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f66bRuOVNeg&feature=related
What a deeply moving video. They're making this a staple on the tour, apparently. Every night they wheel out a piano for Jimmy to sit at and play this song. Really cool, special thing to do for the Rev. You gotta wonder, with the music and the lights and the smoke, it almost must feel like he really is there performing with them.
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Yeah I've watched a few videos like that, extremely chilling and moving.
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FUCK. This makes me so sad. I miss Jimmy so much. I really wish I had gone to see them when I had the chance.
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Yeah same, he was a huge influence on me.
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Definitely my favorite drummer by far. His style was his own, and he had a great personality as well. He was funny as hell, as a few trips to YouTube can confirm, although it's hard to watch those videos now.
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Definitely my favorite drummer by far. His style was his own, and he had a great personality as well. He was funny as hell, as a few trips to YouTube can confirm, although it's hard to watch those videos now.
Yeah, have you watched the all excess documentary? I really recommend it, as the guy is just fucking hilarious
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I'm pretty sure... I'll have to watch it again though, to refresh my memory.
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Wow, I'd never heard that song before and had no idea what the hell was going on in that video. After some research I can assuredly say that video was tits as. Awesome song.
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FUCK. This makes me so sad. I miss Jimmy so much. I really wish I had gone to see them when I had the chance.
Same here. And we will never get another Pinkly Smooth release... :-\
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AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH. PINKLY SMOOTH!!! I forgot all about them. DAMN IT. DAMN IT ALL TO HELL.
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Syn should break out and do the intro solo to Mezmer during the show.
About 1/4 of the crowd would shit bricks.
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I would say even less.
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People would at least appreciate the awesome guitar work regardless if they know it was from Pinkly Smooth.
And the small awesome percentage of people (like me) that did know would feel that much better.
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Definitely. I think I'm gonna go listen to them right now.
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Last August, vocalist M. Shadows has stated that Avenged Sevenfold intends to take a break for up to seven months after they conclude their remaining sheduled touring dates. The band has been touring for the past year to promote their fifth studio record entitled 'Nightmare', which was released in July 2010.
He tells Billboard.com "We've always taken a long time (between albums), and everyone's told us we're stupid for doing that. But I think bands burn themselves out. Look what happened to Disturbed; those are good friends of ours, and you just get caught up in the do a record, tour for two years, do a record, tour for two years... We're very cautious of making sure that everybody has their time. We need to go home... And make sure everybody's mentally in the right spot to do a new record."
He also states that although the band is geting along with touring drummer Arin Ilejay they wish to be cautious about making decisions on their replacement permanent drummer.
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/avenged_sevenfold_to_take_break_after_touring_behi nd_nightmare.html
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That sounds great to me. The guys have been touring for months on end with little to no breaks, and all in support of an album they wrote right after their best friend died. I definitely feel like they need some time off.
I'm also hoping Arin will bring some creativity and influence to the writing, so they'll keep him. He's a really solid drummer.
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Shadows says some of the surprising fan choices include "M.I.A." from 2005's "City Of Evil,", "I Won't See You Tonight, Pt. 1" from 2003's "Walking The Fallen" and the epic "Save Me" from "Nightmare".
Probably about the top 3 songs right there for me.
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MIA is kinda weak, would pick Betrayed or Strength of the World from COE
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Sidewinder wins all.
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Shadows says some of the surprising fan choices include "M.I.A." from 2005's "City Of Evil,", "I Won't See You Tonight, Pt. 1" from 2003's "Walking The Fallen" and the epic "Save Me" from "Nightmare".
None of those are surprising.
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How was IWSYT surprising?!?! That song is so fucking awesome!
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IWSYT is easily the best thing they've ever done, both parts included.
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So I'm doing a run-through of WTF, CoE, S/T, DITR, and Nightmare right now, and everything is still amazing.
I was thinking it would be really interesting for A7X to do a concept album. Nightmare was originally intended to be one, so on their next album perhaps they'll go in that direction. I'd love to see it.
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Self-titled is my favorite, songs like A little Piece of Heaven, Brompton Cocktail, Critical Acclaim and Gunslinger are really great.
Nightmare was pretty good though, I like the older albums, but I haven't listened to them in a while.
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Listening to Waking the Fallen right now, I always forget how much of a masterpiece this album is. The vocals are amazing.
Someone should do an A7X survivor.
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This thread is almost dead... so I'll resurrect it with a question:
I want to buy Nightmare and I think I once saw it in digipack but now I don't see nothing about it in internet so... did I really see it or it was only released in jewel case?
Thanks!
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This thread is almost dead... so I'll resurrect it with a question:
I want to buy Nightmare and I think I once saw it in digipack but now I don't see nothing about it in internet so... did I really see it or it was only released in jewel case?
Thanks!
Jewel case only as far as I know, you probably saw some mini Japanese LP replica or something ;D
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This thread is almost dead... so I'll resurrect it with a question:
I want to buy Nightmare and I think I once saw it in digipack but now I don't see nothing about it in internet so... did I really see it or it was only released in jewel case?
Thanks!
Jewel case only as far as I know, you probably saw some mini Japanese LP replica or something ;D
So... I didn't buy it when I saw it veeeeeeeeeeeeeery cheap because I wanted the digipack edition... and there's not digipack edition. Yuhu.... :rollin
Thank you!
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https://www.stereoboard.com/content/view/169713/9
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
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Is Arin a full member now? Or is he still in like a "hired gun" status?
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Probably somewhere in between.
I should also mention that 4:00 AM is a fucking masterpiece and really should have been on the album.
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Frontman M Shadows has told Kerrang! that the band are set for a break… to write their new record!
“We’ll do this run of shows and then we’ll take some time off, ” M Shadows says of the bands forthcoming North American gigs which include a performance at Metallica’s Orion Festival. “It won’t be like a hiatus – we’re just going to slowly write the next record and then when we’re ready we’ll record it.”
“To tell you the truth, we have some very cool things in the works that I can’t talk about right now,” continues the singer. “We’re going to be doing something that no other band has ever done. The fans will be very happy!”
All of this, of course, means the band will be hidden away from public view for a while – and M Shadows says it could be a year before the band are back in the UK.
“This is our time to get back into Avenged Sevenfold, and I’m sure by next summer it’ll all be going again,” he explains. “We’ll probably come over to the UK and the first thing we do will be festivals. Last years tour and Download were so amazing, we decided to leave it at that. But we’ll come back with the new record and make it really special!”
I can dig it. City of Evil + Waking the Fallen style, please.
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https://deathbatnews.wordpress.com/2012/09/21/rumor-new-avenged-sevenfold-song-to-be-released-with-call-of-duty-black-ops-ii/#comments
High likelihood for a new song on Monday HOLY DFJSKDFL.
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:metal
The last one, Not Ready To Die, was pretty cool. I hope this is true.
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YES
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ohhhh man I hope it's true. it would make tomorrow entirely fantastic
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I CAN'T WAIT!
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Carry On is now streaming: https://banana1015.com/avenged-sevenfold-release-carry-on-new-song-2012-from-call-of-duty-black-ops-2/ (https://banana1015.com/avenged-sevenfold-release-carry-on-new-song-2012-from-call-of-duty-black-ops-2/)
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:metal :metal :metal
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Very COE-ish! FANTASTIC.
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Very good, if they're taking this direction with their music, I shall definitely be getting their next album.
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i like it. it also reminds me of iron maiden
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Nice song.
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I thought the new song was kind of meh, but that's usually how I feel about most video game songs.
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i like it. it also reminds me of iron maiden
This, exactly this!
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This song could have definitely been on Diamonds in the Rough. Not the most amazing song but it makes me happy to see that they're starting to write again.
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(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8120/8650976572_d91a32a91a_z.jpg)
I'm excited after seeing this, assuming its an album announcement :metal
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I think they're just reminding everyone that that is the final day to do their taxes.
I'll take my leave.
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Maybe they were making a Lost reference and messed up.
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That was confusing. Imo it should have been written as "2013-04-15" as in Year-Month-Day.
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Seeing this thread bumped reminds me how awesome City of Evil is. That album just doesn't grow old for me :metal
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Likewise, brotha.
My all time number one.
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https://www.avengedsevenfold.com/radio
Something is happening.
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Wish they were same band from Waking the Fallen.
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Jimmy... :-[
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Wish they were same band from Waking the Fallen.
This :sad:
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I don't miss the screams.
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Fuck yes.
https://deathbatnews.wordpress.com/2013/05/30/new-studio-and-live-footage-from-allhailandronikos/
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It's about time for a new album. I just recently listened to City of Evil and it still slays :metal
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Hmm, this combined with that earlier clip gives me much hope for this album. I really hope there is a display of what they've learned throughout each album on this album-- a combination of the best things from each: the heaviness of WTF, the progressive/thrash-y approach to COE, the experimentation on various songs on the S/T, and the emotional quality of the songs from Nightmare. They are a standout in modern mainstream metal, and as such I really do believe they're going to take some risks and produce something fantastic.
Also, they've been hinting at various things around the internet-- one of these things being a possible concept album. They've wanted to do that for a while, so I'd be thrilled to hear their take on one.
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More newness.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=v1IvOe8gk2I
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(https://www.revolvermag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Screen-Shot-2013-06-26-at-11.01.26-PM.png)
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Man, I thought that was a joke. I don't like it.
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Reminds me of Dance of Death. That's not a good thing...
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Yeah, that looks like a pretty lame photoshop-job imo. :lol
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The release date is 8/27.
I like the cover... but I'm a fanboy...
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There are so many lazy outs taken on that cover that it's ridiculous. Like, as an artist, I literally find so many things about the cover to be poor. However, it reminds me of City of Evil, which was a cover that was also a bit over the top (or Iron Maiden-y) so I'm still hopeful for the music.
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That cover has so much potential to be Sinister and such, but awful stylistic and colour choices ruin it.
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https://www.camrackam.com/
It's in step with most of his other work.
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they keep getting more maiden like. always thought carry on had the IM vibe. and now that album cover. no complaints though
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Well they're huge Maiden fans. I always thought they had a lot of Maiden in them from the beginning. Maiden is my favorite band so I'm ok with this.
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I don't understand what's wrong with that cover, it's cartoony and kinda cool.
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I'm not a fan of the 'smooth,' almost detail-less style and the colors used. Just kinda grates.
OTOH, City of Evil had a very cartoony cover, but it had a cool kinda style to it that made it work rather well.
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The cover reminds me of City of Evil, which is a good thing. If the music sounds like COE as well.... :metal
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yeah if it's anything like City of Evil I will be quite happy. I really hope they release a single soon, I'm interested to know in what direction they've truly taken this album.
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Well they're huge Maiden fans. I always thought they had a lot of Maiden in them from the beginning. Maiden is my favorite band so I'm ok with this.
Definitely, thier cover of Flash of the Blade is pretty good.
In terms of the album cover, I think the art work is OK, but the album title is pretty lame. If you are going to hail to the king, this album better be fucking amazing.
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I really hope they release a single soon, I'm interested to know in what direction they've truly taken this album.
Well Zack said that they will be performing a new song real soon.
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https://deathbatnews.wordpress.com/2013/07/09/avenged-sevenfolds-new-single-hail-to-the-king-due-out-monday/
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I don't understand what's wrong with that cover, it's cartoony and kinda cool.
Couldn't agree more. Sometimes, I just feel like Rich must be my long-lost, monacle and tophat wearing, Ribena drinking, union jack waving, "sexin' you later"ing, British brother. It's like we share the same brain or something.
:ariich:
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I dig the new direction. I think they went a bit overboard with Nightmare, but they were obviously in a really dark place having just lost Jimmy.
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I don't understand what's wrong with that cover, it's cartoony and kinda cool.
Couldn't agree more. Sometimes, I just feel like Rich must be my long-lost, monacle and tophat wearing, Ribena drinking, union jack waving, "sexin' you later"ing, British brother. It's like we share the same brain or something.
:ariich:
:heart :vader:
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I dig the new direction. I think they went a bit overboard with Nightmare, but they were obviously in a really dark place having just lost Jimmy.
Actually most of that was written before he died.
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Well, music-wise. A lot of the lyrics were completely rewritten and a few songs were written afterwards.
ALSO there's a rumored tracklist out there:
1. Hail To The King
2. Day Of The Salvation
3. Distant Questions
4. Adamant Blade
5. Ancient Prophecy
6. Trail Of Forsaken Misery
7. To Hail Andronikos
8. Warlord Demons
9. Gate Thunders
10. The Aftermath
If this WAS true, then I'd say they've finally created the concept album they've been talking about for a while.
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Eh I don't like it. They claim it's a stripped down album but these titles are all over the top and filled with mythological connotations. Not to mention some of these titles are just downright silly. I preferred when they had the more modern religious undertones in their music, like with Beast and the Harlot and To End The Rapture. I dunno, I'm increasingly unhappy with a lot of these announcements and samples. Maybe I'm just outgrowing this band.
As for Nightmare, I liked it, sounded mature and was very emotional. I've never had chills like I had when hearing Jimmy sing on Fiction for the first time.
All that said, I like that they're (allegedly) taking a step back and stripping down their sound a bit. One thing from City Of Evil that I liked was the classic metal sound it had, would be nice to hear more of that.
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Well, music-wise. A lot of the lyrics were completely rewritten and a few songs were written afterwards.
ALSO there's a rumored tracklist out there:
1. Hail To The King
2. Day Of The Salvation
3. Distant Questions
4. Adamant Blade
5. Ancient Prophecy
6. Trail Of Forsaken Misery
7. To Hail Andronikos
8. Warlord Demons
9. Gate Thunders
10. The Aftermath
If this WAS true, then I'd say they've finally created the concept album they've been talking about for a while.
Source?
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LOLNOPE about that tracklist.
(https://i.imgur.com/f9z1HqX.jpg)
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New song in full.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YTqiW654FkU
:metal
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Yeah, it's really good. More mature than what they've done up to now and I like the production, it sounds very crispy and clear.... (described in my own, non-expert words).....
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A big pile of meh. The guitar solo is radular, but it felt by the numbers, especially the drumming.
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A big pile of meh. The guitar solo is radular, but it felt by the numbers, especially the drumming.
This sums it up for me. Hopefully the rest of the album is a bit more adventurous. :)
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A big pile of meh. The guitar solo is radular, but it felt by the numbers, especially the drumming.
bingo. if it wasn't A7X, no one would give this a second listen
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It is okay, but the drumming is pretty meh.
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I think it's the perfect single, it'll garner interest in the rest of the album and make people check it out to see if they do better! I like the song, it's got a decent feel to it, it's still nothing insanely special. I still got it off iTunes and am listening to it, each listen it's growing on me.
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:metal
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Found it boring, but now it's stuck in my head :sad:
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It's OK, more energizing than anything on Nightmare, but I'm just not interested in this band much anymore.
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It's OK, more energizing than anything on Nightmare, but I'm just not interested in this band much anymore.
Pretty much this. Chorus is annoying.
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Nice song, though pretty straightforward. The little video clips seem to show a conductor though, indicated orchestral elements, which is quite exciting...
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Hopefully there will be some more thrash stuff as well.
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ACTUAL tracklist:
"Hail To The King" track listing:
01. Shepherd Of Fire
02. Hail To The King
03. Doing Time
04. This Means War
05. Requiem
06. Crimson Day
07. Heretic
08. Coming Home
09. Planets
10. Acid Rain
:lol
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Sounds like an 80s metal song or something from a power metal band. Weird.
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ACTUAL tracklist:
07. Heretic
Woah, this just got really meta.
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Do we really need another band with a song called Coming Home?
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^ My first thought :lol
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I liked it and I don't listen to A7X much.
I would say though that the drums lacked........ balls :\
But I like that kick drum sound.
You can definitely tell The Rev is gone. That sounds stupid to say, but Nightmare had The Rev's musical contributions, you can tell it was absent on this track.
I still liked it though
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Rev seemed to have a good sense of melody and was probably the best songwriter. It's no coincidence that a lot of my favorites on the last two albums were his ideas and who knows what was his on City of Evil. I can already tell that he's going to be very missed on Hail to the King.
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Nice song, though pretty straightforward. The little video clips seem to show a conductor though, indicated orchestral elements, which is quite exciting...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbwHAxd3BNk
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It is okay, but the drumming is pretty meh.
This. I like the song, but the drumming...just...wow. VERY simple and no variation whatsoever. I don't get it. AC/DC has more interesting drum tracks that than the one in song.
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Based on what I've read it's possible that the band asked him to provide a very basic groove and nothing more.
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I don't doubt that he's capable or that what you said is correct. But the question still exists: Why?? It doesn't sound interesting and doesn't give the song any punch or attitude.
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AC/DC meets Manowar....
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I don't doubt that he's capable or that what you said is correct. But the question still exists: Why?? It doesn't sound interesting and doesn't give the song any punch or attitude.
I agree. If it's only 1 song that's OK with me but if the whole album takes this uber basic approach on the drums I won't be interested.
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I don't doubt that he's capable or that what you said is correct. But the question still exists: Why?? It doesn't sound interesting and doesn't give the song any punch or attitude.
Absolutely. I'm okay with slower, simple drum patterns for the purpose of the song, but this is simple just for the sake of being simple. There might as well have been no drum track, because it added absolutely nothing.
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I don't doubt that he's capable or that what you said is correct. But the question still exists: Why?? It doesn't sound interesting and doesn't give the song any punch or attitude.
Either they're really trying hard to simplify their sound or they don't want the new guy to overshadow the Rev.
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i think they are trying to simplify the sound, if you listen to what shadows is saying in this video at 1:00: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEwxCGq4kMg
no idea about the drums though
i've listened to the new song a bunch of times now. can't get into it. hopefully the album is better
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I figured they would just strip down the production, lay off on the twin guitars and not do vocal harmonies. I didn't expect them to dumb down the music too.
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I was pretty underwhelmed with the first listens. But it has grown on me quite a bit.
Pretty much like Nightmare and Critical Acclaim now that I think about it.
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After I've even blasting this song like crazy in my car I've grown to love it! It's so much better when played loud in my opinion. I love it so far, Shadows kills it on this track. I can't wait to hear the rest of the album! I believe we're in for something more technical, not that Hail The King style simplicity is a bad thing. Still sounds like Avenged Sevenfold to me!
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Sounds like a pretty generic mid-tempo metal song to me, to be honest.
The complaints about the drumming, though, leave me to ask this question. I used to play drums, a long time ago admittedly, so I do tend to listen to songs for their drumming, and the question I always ask myself when the drumming is a simple groove is "what else COULD have been played?" This song isn't calling for anything too terribly complex-it does seem to be working an AC/DC thing-so I really don't know what else he could have played. It's not like the song's crying out for a "hit every tom on the kit" fill, after all. Part of the problem might stem from the drum sound itself-Phil Rudd got away with working basic grooves because his drumming sounded HUGE and anchored everything around it. This song needs more, for lack of a better term, WHAP to the drums.
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I finally got a listen and I liked it. A bit different but pretty solid. I don't care that the drums are simple because it seems like it fits that song.
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I don't mind the simple drum beat, there were a few songs on City of Evil that weren't complex drum-wise at all, and it fit the song.
My biggest problem is that the song simply lacks any sort of energy. It doesn't hit me with any sort of impact, it doesn't leave any sort of impression; it begins, goes through the motions, and ends. It's by no means a bad song, but it doesn't exude any semblance of excitement, power, or energy-- rather, it leaves me somewhat cold. The song is certainly catchy, and like I said, in no way is it bad, but it just doesn't convey any sense of life. As a first single, I much prefer Nightmare, which was heavy, engaging, and thrilling from the start.
I think the simplicity of verse-chorus-verse-chorus-solo-bridge-chorus repetition really hurts, too-- it doesn't allow for much variation (as with the drumbeat) and thus comes off as a very dull song. Hopefully the rest of the album won't follow suit, but I'm sort of skeptical, which I've never been before with an A7X album, so hopefully I won't be disappointed with the direction.
I wish they'd have gone in a progressive metal direction. Save Me was fantastic on Nightmare, and their more progressive songs (Sidewinder, M.I.A., Strength of the World, I Won't See You Tonight pt. 1) are easily their best. When I listen to Hail to the King, it's like the band who made those songs doesn't even exist anymore, and it's saddening because I know the talent is there. Fingers crossed for a good album, though.
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*Brilliant post*
I agree with every sentence.
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The new song sounds like Iron Maiden!
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I'm going to be honest here. I cannot listen to any WHOLE album by A7x apart from Nightmare. Only a few songs off each.
Without Portnoy I don't have high hopes really. With Nightmare I thought they took a huge step up to the prime time but their no frills approach to HTTK I'm not sure it will end up memorable enough.
Hopefully I'm proved incorrect when the album drops.
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I wasn't a huge fan of the single when I listened to it. It sounded kind of plain, and nothing really stood out to me. Hope that changes with the release of the album.
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I'm going to be honest here. I cannot listen to any WHOLE album by A7x apart from Nightmare. Only a few songs off each.
Without Portnoy I don't have high hopes really. With Nightmare I thought they took a huge step up to the prime time but their no frills approach to HTTK I'm not sure it will end up memorable enough.
Hopefully I'm proved incorrect when the album drops.
ehh i actually thought the rev suited them much better. much more creative with his fills and had that punky edge. Nightmare sounds exactly what it is, A7X feat. Mike Portnoy
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ehh i actually thought the rev suited them much better. much more creative with his fills and had that punky edge. Nightmare sounds exactly what it is, A7X feat. Mike Portnoy
I see! Well I am by no means a punk fan. I guess that's why I liked Nightmare and don't really dig much off of the rest of the albums.
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Rev was perfect for them! And MP did a good job of emulating his way of writing drum parts. I'll give this new record a spin just to see what Arin comes up with.
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Alright I love the song now.
So energy... POWER!
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*Brilliant post*
I agree with every sentence.
:clap:
Same here. Lacking energy / impact was exactly what I thought when first listening to this. Even lists my top 5 Avenged Sevenfold songs as their best :tup
I mean, Hail To The King has some cool parts and is all right to listen to, and it certainly doesn't kill any hopes for a great album, but it just feels really dull compared to a lead single like, say, Nightmare.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1IvOe8gk2I
Yeah I'm done worrying about album quality. Engaging into hyped fanboy mode.
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Going to see these guys for the first time next month in Baltimore. Can't wait!
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jeez anyone could be A7X's drummer on this album so far
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The drums are so mind numbingly boring. They could be so much more interesting :l
It feels like they told the new guy to be as simplistic and as non-unique as possible. I don't really know if I'm looking forward to this album anymore.
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I heard Hail to the King on the radio today, and was really confused as I thought it was Jorn Lande. The DJ didn't say who the band was afterwards, and I didn't find out until 5 minutes ago while checking out Thiago's newest spit screen cover, just out of curiosity as I'm not a fan of Avenged Sevenfold.
"Jorn on the radio?!"
The song isn't too bad. Sounds like Dio actually. Of course, Jorn is a Dio mark.
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Never cared much for Avenged Sevenfold before, but their new single is pretty good! will check out the album for sure! thanks again DTforums for introducing me to new music...
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Its kind of a bummer that the drum parts are so oversimplified. But I guess we have DT12 to make up for it :metal
Prediction: Hail to the King is a concept album.
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Would make sense, since Nightmare was supposed to be one until Jimmy died. They've probably been itching to make a concept album.
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Official video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DelhLppPSxY
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Not feelin that.
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Was kind of shocked to see Shadows have long share. Still the same serviceable yet boring song, all because of the drums. Had the drums been more entertaining, it would have been a killer track.
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Somebody should take the drum track out, record their own more inventive and empowering drum track, and replace the old one. Then I would agree, it'd be a pretty sweet metal song.
Video's pretty cool, I liked the ending. The reviews for the album have so far been mainly 8-10 stars, so I'm hoping that this album will still be good.
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I'm hoping just like you Heretic, I just reeeaallly hope that the drums are more challenging than some basic beats being laid down for the album. If they are basic beats, shame on the guys for that.
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Somebody should take the drum track out whole song out, record their own more inventive and empowering drum track song, and replace the old one. Then I would agree, it'd be a pretty sweet metal song.
FTFY
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This song is really good. And the drums are fine for a straightforward song like this.
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holy hell i hope the rest of the album is nothing like this. they look as bored playing it as i am listening to it.
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heh heh, reviews are saying "Heretic" is the most progressive/old-a7x-sounding song on the album. :zydar:
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heh heh, reviews are saying "Heretic" is the most progressive/old-a7x-sounding song on the album. :zydar:
Yes and I'm sure it's... all for you... Heretic. :neverusethis:
Anyway track lengths for the songs are out now.
1. "Shepherd of Fire" 5:22
2. "Hail to the King" 5:04
3. "Doing Time" 3:27
4. "This Means War" 6:09
5. "Requiem" 4:23
6. "Crimson Day" 4:57
7. "Heretic" 4:55
8. "Coming Home" 6:26
9. "Planets" 5:56
10. "Acid Rain" 6:38
I was hoping for a song as long as Save Me again... eh.
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Question? How long do their shows normally go for in length? I'm seeing their recent setlists and it appears that they have only 12 songs. Do they put some of their longer songs in this setlist and do things like an extended bits of instrumentals or something?
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heh heh, reviews are saying "Heretic" is the most progressive/old-a7x-sounding song on the album. :zydar:
Yes and I'm sure it's... all for you... Heretic. :neverusethis:
:lol
Anyway track lengths for the songs are out now.
1. "Shepherd of Fire" 5:22
2. "Hail to the King" 5:04
3. "Doing Time" 3:27
4. "This Means War" 6:09
5. "Requiem" 4:23
6. "Crimson Day" 4:57
7. "Heretic" 4:55
8. "Coming Home" 6:26
9. "Planets" 5:56
10. "Acid Rain" 6:38
I was hoping for a song as long as Save Me again... eh.
I thought we'd have heard if there was a 10+ minute song on it but I was hoping to see one or two 7+ minute ones since they have some great longer songs. But then again the two longest songs on Avenged Sevenfold are by far the worst for me.
https://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/synyster-gates-talks-avenged-sevenfolds-hail-to-the-king-track-by-track-582256#!1
Most looking forward to the last four from the track by track descriptions.
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Album is up for streaming in a lot of places, including iTunes. I'll post my thoughts when I finish, only one song in.
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man this is... better than I expected. will update as I listen
Requiem is legit.
EDIT1: Crimson Day is SO good holy crap
EDIT2: HERETIC LIVES UP TO MY NAME.
EDIT3: Coming Home is outstanding... this album's second half > the first half by far
EDIT4: yep Planets and Acid Rain are just fantastic, I can't believe I ever doubted this album.
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Half a song in and already much better than the single so far...
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Just started listening now, will report back.
EDIT: Hail To the King works SOOOOOOOOOOO much better in an album context.
23 minutes in, this album is radular, gonna say that now.
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Listened once in full now - looks like I was right in thinking the second half of the album would be the best! Coming Home and Heretic especially are awesome. City Of Evil era sounding, with a MIA type solo section in Coming Home.
Not going to knock City Of Evil from its perch but on first listen it seems they have definitely delivered again.
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I'm gonna pick this album up on the weekend.
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Finished the album, god damn that album was killer.
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Well it wasn't bad. Not loving it like others, but much better than I expected. It does harken to City Of Evil, but I've never been a huge fan of that album. I felt that it was missing their more melodic side, which is what I mostly like.
I dunno though, it wasn't bad but it feels like a different band, one that I'm not really keen on following. Maybe they were just cooler when I was 13, but I was much more into Nightmare and the S/T when those were new. I'll listen to it a few more times though, maybe it'll grow on me.
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Is the bonus track worth getting the deluxe edition?
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checking it out on itunes now. hopefully the song HTTK was just a fluke
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Is the bonus track worth getting the deluxe edition?
I don't think the bonus track is available yet (I haven't heard it yet anyway).
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nah bonus track isn't available in the stream.
only got one listen in to the album, now the stream buffers every five freaking seconds so I can't listen to anything. oh well. at least what I heard was awesome.
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random, unorganized first thoughts
Shepherd of Fire: very straight forward. nothing really memorable. drums aren't much more advanced than HTTK
HTTK: no thanks
Doing Time: this song is what Axl wishes guns n' roses could still sound like
This Means War: sick riff, slow and powerful. this is a song where the simple drum beat doesn't bother me.
Requiem: intro sounds like Star Wars ep 1 lightsaber fight song. another slow banger.
Crimson Day: Gotta get that ballad in there. nothing really sticking on first listen. but it's nice to listen to
Heretic: Another rocker. im getting too focused on the drums, doesn't seem like they will ever be more than straightforward rock beats. this song reminds me the most of older A7X material
Coming Home: i like this chorus, soaring. im hearing maiden while listening to this one.
Planets: symphony x intro. not bad, was hoping to hear something on a 'save me' level, maybe acid rain will have that, but it's still very progressive (at least compared to what i've heard so far)
Acid Rain: not what i was expecting at all. But it's very nice to listen to
final thoughts: they HAD to tell Arin to simplify everything on drums or he was too scared to spice things up. anyway, most of the songs you can sit back and headbang to.
There wasn't any HOLY SHIT moments for me at all. I still remember hearing the Fiction/Save Me 1-2 punch and going crazy, or hearing a little piece of heaven and admiring how quirky it was for them to make that song, or City of Evil nonstop awesomeness, or even Waking the Fallen which was one of the only 'screaming' bands i listened to at the time.
but no moments for me to latch onto after 1 listen. i will try again though
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gotta disagree, the chorus on Coming Home was definitely a WOAHHHH moment for me, as were the entirety of both Planets and Acid Rain.
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There wasn't any HOLY SHIT moments for me at all. I still remember hearing the Fiction/Save Me 1-2 punch and going crazy, or hearing a little piece of heaven and admiring how quirky it was for them to make that song,
Yea, this. It's really missing that element. I really liked the last song though, I thought that was a pretty good end.
The Fiction/Save Me 1-2 punch has to be their best moment, IMO.
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The album is good, better than I thought.
I don't think I will ever get past the drumming though.
R.I.P. Percussion :(
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Listening to it now. 6th rock album released in 2013, I've listened to. I'm on This Means War. Does anyone get that feeling that there are certain parts that sounds like Metallica's Sad But True? Not knocking on it, just observing, it is pretty good.
As for the album, so far, I'm enjoying this very much. I don't know why I'm 50/50 with these guys at times. Chris Jericho loves them and there's not really too much to gripe about. It appears they have a clear intent on what to do and wants to follow through heavily on that.
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First listen impressions... This is a really strong album. The second half is definitely better and the song that really stood out for me was Heretic. Some of the songs sound like what Metallica should sound nowadays. :P I would like more intricate drumming but the simplicity of the drums doesn't really bother me. I got used to them on the single so as for the rest of the album it should be no problem.
As for the sound quality based on the iTunes stream....
I've been waiting for to be able to say this about a new metal album for very long time. This album sounds huge when listened loud. Hail to the dynamics! :hefdaddy
It has all the sonic characteristics that I find DT's TEI lacking. The bass has good definition and punch. The low end is there. The drums sound good and every instrument has their own place and are easily heard without having to strain your ears. Nothing gets drowned in the mix because there is room for the music to breath. That also allows for the individual songs to have a slightly different sonic feel as opposed to overcompressed album where every song sound more or less the same. In the end it makes listening to the whole album so much more interesting. Can't wait to hear this in CD quality.
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Yea I have to say, the production was awesome. Heavy and aggressive, but lots of breathing space. Something TEI doesn't have at all.
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How do I listen to it? I've never used iTunes in my life and I am very confused.
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After my first listen, I'm not really feeling this album. :-\
The drums and song structures are just too simple/generic and it's painfully obvious that they're ripping off parts songs by GnR, Metallica, AC/DC etc. The songs just don't sound that original.
It's not a bad album. It's just not something I can see myself listening to 50 times over.
On the bright side the production is pretty much flawless. A lot of bands could learn from it.
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Yea I have to say, the production was awesome. Heavy and aggressive, but lots of breathing space. Something TEI doesn't have at all.
Don't shoot me - but i've always thought Aveneged were like a pop rock band. And as such had more poppy production.
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I've only heard this album and Nightmare... As far as those albums go I don't really get how those can be considered having poppy production?
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Listening now, liked the first song.
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Where are you guys finding the stream on itunes? Not showing up for me.
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I've only heard this album and Nightmare... As far as those albums go I don't really get how those can be considered having poppy production?
Maybe it's the earlier stuff. Some of their choruses to me sound like a boy band song just with guitars.
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Where are you guys finding the stream on itunes? Not showing up for me.
I didn't find it either so I gave up and found it.... elsewhere......
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Yeah I'm not having much luck with that.
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FUCK YOU STEVE JOBS IM GLAD YOU'RE DEAD
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Where are you guys finding the stream on itunes? Not showing up for me.
I couldn't see it either, I think you may need the newest version of iTunes. It is on the Avenged Sevenfold band page on iTunes (where you can select album etc.).
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Ok... i've acquired it by other means... ones I did not want to use.
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Where are you guys finding the stream on itunes? Not showing up for me.
I couldn't see it either, I think you may need the newest version of iTunes. It is on the Avenged Sevenfold band page on iTunes (where you can select album etc.).
Thanks, I found it now.
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That solo in Heretic... :hefdaddy
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Enjoying this WAY more than I thought. The straight forward approach works for me and I also like the maturing vocals.
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Mother fucker... Planets has removed my ability to close my mouth.
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i can see this album appealing to metal fans who previously hated A7X. if they can get over that hate first and listen with an open mind
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i can see this album appealing to metal fans who previously hated A7X. if they can get over that hate first and listen with an open mind
I can totally see that happening.
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Had a listen to the album, and it's not bad. Agreed with the general sentiment that the second half is much better than the first. I think I'll need to give it a couple more listens once it comes out to form more of an opinion, but on the whole I think I find it a bit less exciting and unique than the last few albums. Definitely feels like they've lost a lot of their energy.
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i think i just need to ignore the drums from now on. no idea why they are sooo incredibly boring,.....
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you're a drummer, right? I bet that's rough haha the drums realllllly are very simple.
still, not a bad album, just not up to par with CoE and WtF.
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you're a drummer, right? I bet that's rough haha the drums realllllly are very simple.
still, not a bad album, just not up to par with CoE and WtF.
So is this drummer better than this and he's been told to keep it real simple? Or is he a mate of theirs who was given 18 months to learn to play the drums so he could join the gang?
I quite like what I've heard but there's no drive to it because of the boringly simple drums. They aren't even deceptively simple.
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it has to be intentional, because he still has to play the older material live
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Initially he wanted to play the traditional proggy over-the-top style but the band sat him down and said that was not what they
wanted on this album. They wanted simplicity and groove. This was 100% the bands choice to have him play this way.
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where are you guys listening to the new album? I don't want to download it illegally. is it streaming somewhere?
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It is streaming on iTunes until it's released.
Anyone else find Heretic reminding them of Dancing Dead? (Which is a song I really like).
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Listening to the album now, and I'm on "Coming Home." I've been looking forward to this album every single day since Nightmare came out. It's been such a long wait.
I must honestly say that, so far, I am a bit disappointed. I love every AS album. Nightmare has grown to become my fav, because it is attached with the most emotional time of my life. So it brings with it a nostalgia that will be difficult to ever overthrow. I never thought that I would like it more than Self-Titled or City Of Evil, but I do.
I am, however, one of those people who needs to listen to an album at least 4-5 times to really start to love it. I just don't hear too much so far that I will latch onto.
Nightmare was so different. Songs like "Save Me", "Fiction", "Danger Line"...I just loved the arrangements, and the melodic emotion in the whole album. The album had everything....a taste of great ballads (So Far Away for ex.), a straight up in-your-face hard metal song (God Hates Us), a long, epic song (Save Me), and so much more. Hail To The King just seems to stay at one pace, with the exception of Crimson Day (which I personally love).
As some have said, I think if I were to sum it up, it seems like the band has lost its uniqueness with this album. I am personally more akin to the one-of-a-kind vocal/instrumental melodies and phrases that AS has been known for...it is what makes them AS.
So far, Hail To The King is definitely not what I was hoping...it's been rather boring thus far. Thank GOD for the DT album coming out!
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All finished. Some notes:
Acid Rain and Crimson Day will most likely end up being my favs on this album. 2 of the slower/softer songs on the album..go figure.
Planets was cool, I liked it a fair amount. It may end up being one of my favs.
Really like the intro and opening guitar riff in Shepherd of Fire...simple but great groove. Very Metallica-esque...in a good way. Rest of the song is just ehhh.
The one part in Heretic was cool I guess. The instrumental part right before the bridge.
Nothing else memorable after the first listen. This album lacks something, and that makes me incredibly upset as I had been waiting for 3 years.
Damn it to hell.
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Listening to the itunes stream. So far, this is pretty awesome. Will definitely be buying this album on Tuesday. Been a fan since I took a chance on City of Evil in 2005. Can't wait to see them live for the first time in October!
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HOLY SHIT REQUIEM!!!!! :metal :metal :metal :metal
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Requiem was way too cheesy and predictable for me. It got better toward the end though.
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Album of the year.
Dream Theater can still change that though.
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Not a big fan of the album. A few good songs, but none that stand out.
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Not a big fan of the album. A few good songs, but none that stand out.
yea i agree with this. few cool riffs here and there, but nothing really awesome
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So with all the hype surrounding this album, I decided to revisit Nightmare. It's still awesome, such a dark vibe and some really chilling stuff. It actually made me like the new album even less, because I realized that all the stuff that made me love Nightmare and even the S/T are all absent from this album. If they want to go another direction, that's fine, but it isn't really something that interests me.
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I'm really enjoying the album, but really hope the drums don't stay this simple. I'm worried they're willing to sacrifice great drumming all in the name of keeping "Rev" up in the overly lofty heights he's been put in.
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https://www.metalsucks.net/2013/08/21/footnotes-a-handy-catalog-of-every-song-from-which-avenged-sevenfolds-hail-to-the-king-borrows/ (https://www.metalsucks.net/2013/08/21/footnotes-a-handy-catalog-of-every-song-from-which-avenged-sevenfolds-hail-to-the-king-borrows/)
Not trying to offend those who like the album, just throwing this out there.
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Much better than what I was expecting after hearing the single!
Drums... even though they are simple, they got that punch that I wished DT had with Mangini. The kick and the snare especially sound awesome.
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Requiem and Planets & Acid Rain are my early favorites.
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yeah this album really isn't staying with me, I like a lot of things about it at times but after more listens despite parts being catchy and me remembering the lyrics/melody, it's not as exciting for me to come back and listen like songs like Sidewinder or I Won't See You Tonight pt.1 are.
disappointing but still not bad, I'd say there's still a lot of good on the album, but it is somewhat uninspired and lacks the energy that they have had previously.
or maybe it's the fact that I've gotten into so much more music since I first found these guys that's dampening my viewpoint, idk. it's just somewhat sad to hear a band that once wrote a song like Strength of the World write a song like Doing Time. I'm not going to call it regression, because they still have the talent... they've just chosen to utilize it in a different way which has been very polarizing.
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I'm worried they're willing to sacrifice great drumming all in the name of keeping "Rev" up in the overly lofty heights he's been put in.
Kinda sounds like Arin was trying to imitate The Rev's style and they told him to tone it down (in some interviews, it sounds like they were contemplating just doing the drums themselves)
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If everything they've said in interviews is true, that they purposely wanted a more straightforward album with not a lot of flair, then HttK is not a good album to judge Arin by.
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the drums can be interesting in a straight forward way. i'll never understand why they were intentionally dumbed down. any middle schooler with his first double bass pedal can play this album
honestly, it makes Arin look bad and opens him up to dumb comparisons and criticism. ZOMG HE ISN'T A GOD LIKE THE REV
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Cannot un-hear Sad But True.
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I think after the first 4 tracks the band's influences become less obvious, but god damn the amount of blatant Metallica, Iron Maiden and G'n'R in those opening songs is almost annoying.
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Unfortunately I disagree there-- Coming Home is a Iron Maiden Brave New World-influenced song, and Acid Rain just feels really similar to November Rain despite not borrowing any of the music. Heretic is apparently really similar to Megadeth in parts (I don't listen to Megadeth so idk about that) and Crimson Day is sort-of similar to Nothing Else Matters.
That's where I find disappointment in this album-- the songs wear their influences on their sleeves... on City of Evil, you could tell that the band was influenced by certain metal bands but none of the songs felt like any of the songs written by their influences. Even the S/T and Nightmare had a high number of songs that just sounded like a7x (yes, Buried Alive was very Metallica-y, but it still felt inspired.) Here, however, almost everyone is able to say (and are saying around the internet) "oh hey, that sounds almost exactly like Sad But True" or "hmm, Doing Time is such a Use Your Illusion song!"
It's disappointing because these guys are original in their own right and have the ability to write such outstanding songs that do not need to be homages. I Won't See You Tonight pt. 1, Strength of the World, Sidewinder, Save Me, the list goes on. Those songs don't sound like other bands, and they are fantastic compositions. After listening to this album repeatedly I'm like, "yes a7x, we get it, you love the Black Album."
Don't get me wrong, I like the album, and there are songs that despite being influenced heavily are awesome (Coming Home, namely). Requiem and Planets are good in their own right, too, so there's that. It's just somewhat of a letdown for me, but I wasn't expecting another CoE after hearing the single. It's not a bad album, of course, but sometimes I wish these guys would've kept Portnoy and went in the Save Me direction. You can make heavy, rocking, even grooving metal without dumbing down the drums and being derivative.
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Coming Home and Heretic sound pretty much like pure Avenged Sevenfold to me - remember lots of people complained that City Of Evil itself was too derivative, so if you go by everything that has ever been criticised as sounding like something else then you may as well write off all Avenged Sevenfold albums (and many other albums, too).
I am not too bothered about how obvious the influences are on some of the songs, and I think people sometimes put a bit too much emphasis on it (especially since the band have said they tried to make an album in that style). If they had decided to write a few songs in the style of Dream Theater, for instance, you wouldn't hear me complaining. It's just that I don't really like that style nearly as much as I like the regular Avenged Sevenfold style. They have obviously made a conscious effort to strip things down with regards to the drums, the harmonies etc. to place a lot of emphasis just on the riffs, probably because they realised they love a lot of classic songs that are like that. But I really find it a lot more dull that way, which is why the songs that are most like that (Hail To The King, This Means War), along with Doing Time (obviously a song done in the style of Guns N' Roses, Velvet Revolver type fast paced rock, which again isn't really my thing) are the weakest and most boring on the album for me. I like Shepherd Of Fire better, the solo and vocal melodies are more exciting and more like what I'd expect from Avenged Sevenfold so that one works despite the simplistic style for me.
But the songs like Heretic, Coming Home, Requiem, Planets which aren't doing the deliberately simple, stripped back classic metal approach so much are much better. I didn't really have high expectations for the album after hearing the single and the description the band gave of the type of album they were going for, so half an album of solid songs, nothing really terrible, and handful of songs worth mentioning among Avenged Sevenfold's best (Coming Home especially) goes down pretty well with me.
Pseudo-Edit: Just heard St. James out there too, although I probably won't listen to it properly until the album is released and I get the Deluxe Edition. It is a tribute to the Rev, pretty upbeat and more like something you'd find on Nightmare or A7X.
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Gave this album a listen this morning. Couple observations:
- The drums are too loud (something I normally wouldn't say as I love listening to the drums)
- It sounds like Lars is playing on this album
- The kick sounds like the snare
- I could play the drums on this album
- This would be a great album for Rock Band
- Why is the singer singing like Axl Rose?
- Holy shit, I actually listened to a full Avenged Sevenfold album.
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self-titled shall remain my favorite. COME AT ME HATERZ.
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Gonna be seeing them Headline next week. Going to be great.
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nightmare was way better, this one is still enjoyable but nothing really new
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Loving the album. Not as good as Nightmare, but better than the self titled release.
And any complaints about the simple drum work is negated by my fanboyish love for Syn's guitar work and Shadows vocals. Which by the way may be his best vocal performance yet.
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Loving the album. Not as good as Nightmare, but better than the self titled release.
And any complaints about the simple drum work is negated by my fanboyish love for Syn's guitar work and Shadows vocals. Which by the way may be his best vocal performance yet.
I agree about the vocals. Shadows owns this album.
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self-titled shall remain my favorite. COME AT ME HATERZ.
:heart
Nothing will ever touch the selftitled.
- Why is the singer singing like Axl Rose?
He's been doing the Axl Rose impression for years, but now the music sounds like GNR too, for once.
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Well, after a few days of absorbing and re-listening to some songs of the album, I can still say it is a winner. They are doing a good job, and all we can say is keep going.
That said, I had a couple listens at St. James. My goodness, this is a great song. A good positive high-energy song with a great story to the creation of the song and it sounds like vintage Avenged Sevenfold.
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Well, after a few days of absorbing and re-listening to some songs of the album, I can still say it is a winner. They are doing a good job, and all we can say is keep going.
That said, I had a couple listens at St. James. My goodness, this is a great song. A good positive high-energy song with a great story to the creation of the song and it sounds like vintage Avenged Sevenfold.
I couldn't describe it better.
This album is just different. But IMO, in a very very good way.
I'll explain with some points:
- The guitar solos are less technical, which leaves Syn with more melodic space to work with. Listen, for example, to Acid Rain's solo. It's just wonderful. Not too complicated, but one of my favorites. In previous albums the solos we're just too technical (with some exceptionals, of course).
- M. Shadows vox are AWESOME. He finally managed to balance his powerful screaming with his silent melodic parts. He's definitely the highlight of the album
- I agree about the drums being simple as hell.
- The composition in the album is brilliant. Something that really bothered me in ths S/T album, and it may sound petty, is that most of the songs (if not all of them) were in ONE scale (Dminor). Something like that creates a similar atmosphere in all the songs. This album is written in different ones, and therefore we have wider range of sounds
That's it ;D
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Go buy the album.
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After some days of absorbing I think I can say this:
It's a good album, but below all the previous four. I really miss the longer proggier songs like MIA, ALPOH and Save Me. However, it will probably be a kickass album to hear when I see them live in november :metal
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Got the deluxe album. I'm digging the coasters that came with it.
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I am definitely no fan of the new album. Maybe it will do some growing on me.
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I'm really liking St. James. Should not have been a "bonus track." But I think it's usually the label that pushes that kind of stuff these days.
Overall impressions I get from the album...
As I said before Shadows really steals the show.
The drums are simple but powerful and have a great dense sound.
I keep going back and forth between Coming Home and Planets as my best song pick.
The title track keeps getting better with each listen.
Doing Time continues the tradition of the shortest song being one of the best.
Nice to hear more bass in the mix finally.
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Digging these videos where the band briefly talks about each song.
Here's the video for Requiem.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XfHb5bnzPg&list=PLpSW6gVRk77GLYShSYrn7OKSm9E5kBaMP
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Shadows seriously looks SO much better with long hair~
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Digging these videos where the band briefly talks about each song.
Here's the video for Requiem.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XfHb5bnzPg&list=PLpSW6gVRk77GLYShSYrn7OKSm9E5kBaMP
Syn is so excited
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This album sounds a lot better through headphones.
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I'm really liking this album so far. Haven't listened enough to be able to recall any songs but my first impressions are its the best since City of Evil.
Also, listening on my nice headphones, the album sounds great.
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Woke up from Revolt on The Rio day 1 and they were good, but Korn shouldve headlined.
New songs were amazing....they didn't play Bat Country or Beast and The Harlot, which is a first that a band didn't play their hits. Good show though.
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Just watched the
Digging these videos where the band briefly talks about each song.
Here's the video for Requiem.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XfHb5bnzPg&list=PLpSW6gVRk77GLYShSYrn7OKSm9E5kBaMP
Just watched the videos for Planets and Acid Rain. Like how the band confirmed that they go together. Definitely in the top three for me along with Requiem.
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First listen - Meh, sorry A7X but meh.
Second listen - Okay, I'm liking this a bit more now that I'm more familiar with what's going on. Not bad, A7X.
Third listen - :metal :metal :metal
I don't really care for Crimson Day all that much. Just seems very by the numbers as far as the "slow" track goes. And the chorus to Planets bothered me the first listen, but it's growing on me.
Requiem and Shepard of Fire are all kinds of badass though. Also Coming Home, which sounds very Iron Maiden influenced.
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Being an A7X fan....I was shocked to hear how dumbed down the drums are, especially for a drummer as talented as he is. The drums on Crimson Day are so lifeless they sound programmed. I can appreciate going more for feel rather than spectacle, but on this record it's a little too deliberate.
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Congrats to the band on a #1 album with approx 156K sold. Very solid by todays standards.
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Second time in a row as well.
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The album is really good. I dont care if the drums are dumbed down, the songs are great and its a pretty damn heavy album. Very awesome that something like this made #1.
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It's growing on me a bit, but it still doesn't beat their last 4.
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Congrats to the guys, they deserve it. Nice to see metal upon the throne once in a while.
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It's growing on me a bit, but it still doesn't beat their last 4.
This
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i enjoy some funny criticism https://www.metalinjection.net/latest-news/fueds/machine-heads-robb-flynn-congratulates-avenged-sevenfold-covers-album-hail-king-going-1
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Wasn't really funny though...
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the jokes are iffy, but the criticisms stand
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yeah those jokes suck but he's right that it sounds way too much like its influences.
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Cool to see Portnoy still lurks the boards. was on this topic about 15 mins ago
anyway: i miss this stuff :(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVgwv05P4a4
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I've been giving the album a few listens as of late, and I actually really dig it. Very much more straight up metal than metal core-ish. I don't know, I dig it.
Shadows vocals are ABSOLUTELY STELLAR on this album, too. Really great to hear.
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Thank you Avenged for rocking my face off last night.
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Google Music suggested A7X, so I'm listening to it right now. I just arrived at "This means war". WTF? How much did they have to pay Metallica for that one?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afgFcaXeerQ
By the way, don't bother with the new album. Check out City of Evil instead.
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Yeah fuck that, I'mma go listen to solitary shell.
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Google Music suggested A7X, so I'm listening to it right now. I just arrived at "This means war". WTF? How much did they have to pay Metallica for that one?
The new album really doesn't represent them well, in my opinion.
I mean, I'm not sure you'll like their other albums, but they're far more unique and interesting. The latest one is mostly rip-offs of 80s bands.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afgFcaXeerQ
By the way, don't bother with the new album. Check out City of Evil instead.
LOL
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Well, at least, City of Evil has some good moments ( they only last a couple of seconds though) :rollin
It's the case of "there are much, MUCH better 00's heavy metal bands out there", Rumborak.
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Just picked up the Re-release of Waking The Fallen. The 2nd disc with demos and live tracks is pretty cool.
Hearing the orginal intro title track I kinda wish thats what had used. And Chapter Four sounded a lot different before. Interesting twists. Worth a listen for anybody who liked WTF.
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Does anyone know why Mike Portnoy got to play with the band?
I mean, he gave an interview saying he was just there to continue the Rev´s legacy and translate his ideas as found in the demo recordings of the Nightmare album.
Was it an invitation from the band? Something like: "you are the only drummer in the world that can play what Rev was playing"?
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I believe he was the Rev's favorite drummer so the band asked him to join for the album and tour.
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I believe he was the Rev's favorite drummer so the band asked him to join for the album and tour.
That's correct, and apparently the Rev and Portnoy had emailed each other sporadically so there was an established connection
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Interesting. I didn´t know that. Thank you!
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For those that didn't yet see it, A7X meets Katy Perry (may be slightly questionable for work, with a decent amount of Katy Perry skin). Surprisingly well put together:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgO7i40-Ce8
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For those that didn't yet see it, A7X meets Katy Perry (may be slightly questionable for work, with a decent amount of Katy Perry skin). Surprisingly well put together:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgO7i40-Ce8
Well that was something... It's cool how well the solo fit. I kinda wish he found a way to fit the harmonized solo in there.
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:lol that was pretty good
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So apparently they're moving on without Arin, their new drummer. Per their Facebook page. Hope it means they move back to a more Avenged Sevenfold kind of sound, instead of whatever HTTK was. The run of City of Evil -> A7X -> Nightmare was amazing! Then they put out the most boring album I've heard from a metal band in a while. Not entirely bad, it had some catchy stuff, but boring compared with the classics.
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Agreed. Although I'm not sure how much of an effect the drummer had on that. Sounds like they all wanted to make generic Metallica ripoffs.
Anyway, I'm not surprised by this news. I was under the impression that they had no intention of finding a permanent replacement for Rev and were going to have have a different drummer on each album.
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I haven't listened to the album in a while, but I wasn't that impressed with the drumming on HTTK. The weird part is, Arin is a really damn good drummer, so it didn't make sense at the time. Maybe he gave some pushback on the drums or new musical direction and they didn't want to hear it?
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Very good news :)
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Ridiculous. They claim that his style didn't fit their music but how can they know that when they essentially told him to play simple back beats? The kid is a phenomenal drummer but they severely limited him. We all loved Jimmy, but sadly he's gone and never coming back. The best thing for them to do is let whoever they have as their drummer play in his or her own style. It could end up working really well and lead to some great music. There's no reason to limit what any member of the band is doing.
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You know, I was sitting here thinking if there was one thing that A7X has over Metallica is that A7X handled how they go about replacing their deceased member a hell of a lot better than how Metallica replaced Cliff Burton. Now, I hear this news and I don't know what to think regarding how they went about replacing their deceased member/friend/etc.
In a way, it could be another parallel to Metallica, much like A7X's whole history. That stated, instead of lowering the bass (which obviously would not highlight Jason Newsted well) which Metallica did for ...and Justice for All, A7X wanted their guy to play simple beats (which could restrict the musician and not really showcase what he could be capable off) for Hail to the King.
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you don't play drum parts as simple as the stuff on HTTK without being instructed (or forced) to do so. "not fitting their style" = arin tried to actually play something other than the most simple thing possible and they don't approve.
sad really
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In a way, it could be another parallel to Metallica, much like A7X's whole history. That stated, instead of lowering the bass (which obviously would not highlight Jason Newsted well) which Metallica did for ...and Justice for All, A7X wanted their guy to play simple beats (which could restrict the musician and not really showcase what he could be capable off) for Hail to the King.
I never understood why a band would do this. I guess egos play a role, but seriously, you let it affect YOUR music. Whatever, maybe MP comes back. Like the rest, I can't say the drumming on HTTK was memorable, although I did enjoy the album overall.
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Bring back MP
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MP going back to A7X is a horrible idea.
I wrote this on the MP board back in 2010 when the idea was first brought up, and I still feel exactly the same way today...
I really don't think it will happen...if it did, it would be a bad idea. And here's why.
Everyone remember "that guy" in high school? The one that you looked up to so much when you were a freshman?
Then after he graduated...he kept coming back to hang out with all the underclassmen who looked up to him. And all these underclassmen who looked up to him thought it was so cool at first because they are actually hanging out with this guy they always looked up to....he was like "their hero"....
...but then he just keeps hanging out at the school.
...and the guy thinks it's really cool hanging out with all these people who look up to him...and it makes him feel really special...
...but pretty soon everyone is like...looking at everyone else trying to figure out WHY this guy is still hanging out with all the underclassmen...and it just starts to seem weird.
It's like that. That's why Mike should move on and do his own thing, and not wear out his welcome among the underclassmen with a hero complex. It would just get weird.
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Actually....I go one better and claim that the reason A7X and MP split in the first place is because of exactly the scenario I just described. That was the way it felt to me when it first went down anyway.
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Well except these are professional musicians, not kids in a school yard. I get the point you are trying to make, but there is nothing weird if he were to play with them again. My comment about him was mostly joking cause I just don't see it happening, but if he did, it would be fine by me. At least his drumming was pretty solid on Nightmare.
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Yeah clearly I was being completely sarcastic about MP too. I don't think they would bring him back, move forward not back.
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Yeah clearly I was being completely sarcastic about MP too. I don't think they would bring him back, move forward not back.
I got your sarcasm. ;D I was just following up because I know there are actually some people who really feel that way....though I have no idea why.
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Hey there are still some people who think MP is definitely coming back to Dream Theater :neverusethis:
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I mean, the band told Arin to play with "groove" and to play very simply, so it's not his fault HTTK was the blandest thing they've ever released.
Sadly after the release of that album I haven't been super interested in the band. I'm really hoping they turn away from whatever was driving their decision making on HTTK and go back towards a more COE or WTF sound. I would hate to see my former favorite band descend deeper down the rabbit hole.
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Trivium > > > > > Avenged Sevenfold.
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Trivium > > > > > Avenged Sevenfold.
Trivium is great but nowhere near Sevenfold's level.
I mean, the band told Arin to play with "groove" and to play very simply, so it's not his fault HTTK was the blandest thing they've ever released.
Sadly after the release of that album I haven't been super interested in the band. I'm really hoping they turn away from whatever was driving their decision making on HTTK and go back towards a more COE or WTF sound. I would hate to see my former favorite band descend deeper down the rabbit hole.
The thing with Sevenfold is that they never make the same album twice. They're constantly changing their sound while still keeping their signature style. I can almost guarantee that the next album won't sound like HTTK or any of their other albums for that matter.
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I agree, I just hope they change it up for the better. Who would've expected HTTK after hearing the song they released after Nightmare, "Not Ready to Die" ? It was heavy, engaging, sort of progressive, and had screaming again. It sounded like classic A7X. And then they release HTTK, which was a combo of A7X on auto-pilot and shameless "inspiration" from classic metal bands.
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I agree, I just hope they change it up for the better. Who would've expected HTTK after hearing the song they released after Nightmare, "Not Ready to Die" ? It was heavy, engaging, sort of progressive, and had screaming again. It sounded like classic A7X. And then they release HTTK, which was a combo of A7X on auto-pilot and shameless "inspiration" from classic metal bands.
Not Ready to Die also had great drumming. While not necessarily the most creative drum parts, Arin really showed his chops on that one.
The funny thing with Hail to the King is that the best song from the album is St. James which is an iTunes exclusive bonus track. I can't imagine what compelled them to omit that song from the standard version of the album in favor of something like Doing Time or Planets (which is the first song by them that I don't even enjoy a little bit).
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HTTK is by far my least favourite album of them too, but Doing Time and Planets (and Requiem) are the ones I still listen to. I don't even remember much the other songs, I found the album completely unoriginal the first time I listened to it
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Trivium is great but nowhere near Sevenfold's level.
AX7 Make The Crusade with every album.
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It's not necessarily great news to be changing members, but I am not bothered by their drummer leaving. I haven't seen them live but have heard many times that Arin was a perfectly capable drummer, and read in interviews that the drums on Hail To The King were as they were because that's how the band wanted them to be. But Hail To The King was pretty boring and I think the drums were quite a big factor in that. Coming Home and Heretic are great songs, but most of the songs were mediocre and it left a pretty dull impression overall. Even songs I like a lot feel like they could use some more interesting drum parts to take them to the next level, and some of the weaker songs probably wouldn't have felt so monotonous with better drums. The band claimed they intentionally went for very simple drums, and I would probably believe that since they seem to have very deliberately have went in a certain direction for the whole album, so even if the drums are weak maybe Arin wasn't the main one that should be blamed for it. But maybe a different more established or confident drummer wouldn't have let them instruct him to play such simple stuff to the detriment of the album and would have brought more of their own contribution to the songs. It seems like that's exactly what the band didn't want after the Rev though.
Trivium > > > > > Avenged Sevenfold.
AX7 Make The Crusade with every album.
Thanks for these relevant and insightful contributions to the thread.
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The drumming on HTTK prevented me from enjoying the album after a few listens. I have no qualms with them being "simple" (hell, Lars never really bothered me in Metallica. Save for the bad albums, where the whole band bothered me), but on HTTK there is no sense of groove, a general lack of punch, lack of speed, and the drums were incredibly monotonous. I frequently listen to CoE-AS-N, but HTTK's drums stick out like a sore thumb to me.
Reading that the guy leaving can actually drum, has me worried actually. Because those creative differences could also mean they actually want the drums to be this shitty for future records. As for Portnoy, I know people are joking and that it is not likely at all, but I for one would love it if that means he can do his thing.
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honestly, they probably should have just called it quits after nightmare. the rev was the heart and soul of the band, and without him they're nowhere near as good.
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honestly, they probably should have just called it quits after nightmare. the rev was the heart and soul of the band, and without him they're nowhere near as good.
Interesting thought. Jason Newsted said himself that he always thought (before he joined) that Metallica should stop after Cliff died. I think both bands would be thought of today as top-tier metal bands whose careers were cut off too short if they had stopped.
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honestly, they probably should have just called it quits after nightmare. the rev was the heart and soul of the band, and without him they're nowhere near as good.
Interesting thought. Jason Newsted said himself that he always thought (before he joined) that Metallica should stop after Cliff died. I think both bands would be thought of today as top-tier metal bands whose careers were cut off too short if they had stopped.
Probably not in the case of Sevenfold. They are an extremely polarizing band in my experience. The people I know who listen to them absolutely love them but everyone else hates them. Nightmare got some people interested but Hail to the King is the album that started to convince people for some reason.
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I mean, they've topped the Billboard charts twice in a row, and were close a few other times. They're definitely regarded as popular and one of the most important mainstream metal bands around, regardless of whether or not HTTK was any good.
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also, something i just realized, i wonder how much a record contract was part of the decision to keep going. whether or not they wanted to continue, they could have been contractually obligated to do some more albums. as one of the more popular 'metal' bands today, a label would be foolish to let them just go.
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Well they are definitely popular, as in a lot of people listen to them and go to their shows. There's a bit of a difference though between that sort of popularity and "internet popularity" - one is about having more people that are fans of something, the other is about having less people that hate something.
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Hell yeah they're popular. Look at their stage props. A big skeleton on a kings chair, pyro, all that fun stuff. What's funny is the last time I saw them for uproar, they seemed like they weren't into it, kinda like going through the motions.
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Hell yeah they're popular. Look at their stage props. A big skeleton on a kings chair, pyro, all that fun stuff. What's funny is the last time I saw them for uproar, they seemed like they weren't into it, kinda like going through the motions.
Well when they played Uproar, it was still pretty soon after The Rev's passing. They were still getting used to playing without their brother. I saw them twice last year and they put on an incredible show both times.
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Thanks for these relevant and insightful contributions to the thread.
:biggrin: I thought I was in the AMob thread.
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So Jr. is a big A7X fan and in the couple years he's been playing guitar, he's picked up a number of tunes and plays them a good bit. He doesn't have solos and such down, but has all the basic song frameworks together and such.
So he has me play along to some of them and I pick them up as we're playing, but I'm going to try to get myself a little more on board, so I can really get into it when we do these songs. I read some of the early commentary in this thread and have a general idea of what people appear to like and not like, but I'm not going to let that influence me. I listened to City of Evil this morning and while it's mostly good, the last couple of tracks kinda lost me. Maybe I just need to listen again or something. Not sure. I think I will move chronologically through the discography though and see how things strike me.
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Has been my favorite band for over two years (around the release of Nightmare), and I think I'm in the vast minority when I say Hail to the King has brought me back to the band a bit, I went to see them live on the HttK tour and they were amazing, playing songs from pretty much their whole discography, two best openers I could've wished for (Shepherd of Fire -> Critical Acclaim), and on top of that, a new drummer who is full of energy, does everything he has to perform perfectly, with a great drum solo on top of that. Have they become a bit generic with their new album? Maybe, but I thought it is a nice change, besides, they seem to charish their old stuff just as much as their fans do, judging from the live shows.
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Looks likes they do have a new drummer in place. Will eventually be announced.
https://loudwire.com/avenged-sevenfold-confirm-new-drummer-in-place/
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A7X?
Love them! Next to DT, of course.
Fav album would be Waking the Fallen, City, Self titled, then the rest. Absolutely love Shadows' scream though it spooked me out at first. Imagine listening to second heartbeat for the first time. *shudders*
I love it now, though.
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So apparently they're gonna announce their new drummer tomorrow on the Talk is Jericho podcast.
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Mike Portnoy :lol
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Mike Portnoy :lol
:lol
I'm pretty stoked for the new drummer announcement, maybe we finally get to see Lars Ulrich on two different bands at the same festival next summer!
Oh and anyone interested, I'm holding an A7X survivor (probably starting somewhere next week) over at the Poll/Survivors subthread, starting from Waking the Fallen as there probably isn't enough of a fanbase for Trumpet.
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A Little Piece of Heaven > The rest of AX7 discography combined ;D
But seriously, I love that crazy insane song, the video also was a wicked threat. The self titled is their best album for me, with Nightmare they kept the level high but Hail to the King already seems one of those albums that while being good, lacks that "whoa" factor... wouldn't mind to hear another truly kickass album from them.
Don't care for their looks but the singer has one hell of a voice, saw them live at a festival before Iron Maiden back in 2008, damn if he's good.
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:rollin
That reminds me, have you seen the a7x vs dt youtube video by the saiyan vevo? Hilarious!
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A Little Piece of Heaven > The rest of AX7 discography combined ;D
But seriously, I love that crazy insane song, the video also was a wicked threat. The self titled is their best album for me, with Nightmare they kept the level high but Hail to the King already seems one of those albums that while being good, lacks that "whoa" factor... wouldn't mind to hear another truly kickass album from them.
Don't care for their looks but the singer has one hell of a voice, saw them live at a festival before Iron Maiden back in 2008, damn if he's good.
Must have stabbed her fifty fucking times! Ripped her heat out right before her eyes, eyes over easy! Eat it, eat it, eat it!!!
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A Little Piece of Heaven > The rest of AX7 discography combined ;D
But seriously, I love that crazy insane song, the video also was a wicked threat. The self titled is their best album for me, with Nightmare they kept the level high but Hail to the King already seems one of those albums that while being good, lacks that "whoa" factor... wouldn't mind to hear another truly kickass album from them.
Don't care for their looks but the singer has one hell of a voice, saw them live at a festival before Iron Maiden back in 2008, damn if he's good.
Agree with basically all of this, though City of Evil isn't mentioned and that's also great. First couple of albums are pretty meh.
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I liked one of their albums but then HTTK :| wtf was that ?!
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For me it is something like this: City is fantastic, Nightmare is great, self titled is good. HTTK is dissapointing, but solid. The older albums are hit or miss for me on song by song basis.
Hail to the Kind is frustrating to me as I really love the vocals and overall song structures, but the music feels like it misses something (that something mostly being the drums). Instrumentally no groove or standout moments there, but not really bad either.
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Hail to the King were all songs that I very much enjoyed in the beginning but had no relisten value or something, I rarely listen to any of the songs anymore.
City of Evil, self-titled, Nightmare and Waking the Fallen are my faves, Hail to the King is miles below those, but still alright.
Revisited STST a month ago or so and it wasn't too bad, but still not for me, it's like what WTF would have been if they stitched it together in a week.
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Without having listened to Seventh Trumpet, I can say that I enjoy all of their albums, obviously some more than others. My rankings:
City of Evil
Self Titled
Waken the Fallen
Nightmare
Hail to the King (which I enjoy, its just their worst release)
I also think the Diamonds in the Rough disc is really good, those b-sides are awesome. If I had to include this it would be above Waken the Fallen.
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Diamonds in the Rough is great, The Fight is one of my favorite songs of the 2007-2008 A7X, but it has too many forgettable tracks on it for me to stand out as a full release.
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Diamonds in the Rough is great, The Fight is one of my favorite songs of the 2007-2008 A7X, but it has too many forgettable tracks on it for me to stand out as a full release.
Yea, I mean it only has a hand full of original tracks that weren't on the albums. Those songs are what I am talking about (and I assume you are too).
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https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/avenged-sevenfold-recruits-ex-bad-religion-drummer-brooks-wackerman/
Gonna have to check out some Bad Religion now. But the last quote from Shadows has me optimistic.
"The idea of the last record was a very stripped-down sound and the idea of the next is a not very stripped-down sound."
HYPED
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https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/avenged-sevenfold-recruits-ex-bad-religion-drummer-brooks-wackerman/
Gonna have to check out some Bad Religion now. But the last quote from Shadows has me optimistic.
"The idea of the last record was a very stripped-down sound and the idea of the next is a not very stripped-down sound."
HYPED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0RL6023q1g
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0RL6023q1g
Can't stand the song, love the drums, so I guess it's a win? :metal
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Interesting choice. Bad Religion are absolutely nothing like A7X whatsoever, though they are pretty great.
Not sure Sorrow is a particularly great choice of song from that album, Kotow. Personally I much prefer Epiphany: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQFqXDCN80E
EDIT: Or The Defense: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-dBscbqy60
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I like the stripped-down sound of the last album. Most metal albums are overproduced nowadays IMO.
What I didn't like was the stripped-down songwriting. The idea of another album with sich songs only with a brickwallwd sound doesn't excite me.
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I used to be really into them, but HTTK completely ruined it for me. Wouldn't be so bad if it didn't take such a long time for them to release albums, I've gotten burnt out on them as a whole I think.
City of Evil is a bit of a grower I think. It's a pretty long listen. Some really good songs mixed in with some not so good ones.
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I really like Bad Religion, but I am not sure how this drummer would be a good fit for AX7. Not when they had the Rev and briefly MP rocking out. We'll see.
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I really like Bad Religion, but I am not sure how this drummer would be a good fit for AX7. Not when they had the Rev and briefly MP rocking out. We'll see.
Brooks is not your ordinary punk drummer if that's what you're worried about. He's always been overqualified for BR imo. He's a beast on drums and so is his brother. I'm pretty sure he will do fine in AS.
Brooks rocking out with Tenacious D:
https://youtu.be/aK_wpT9RGH0
BR - True North (live in studio) (https://youtu.be/r5XJd-vscYM)
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I saw Wackerman and immediately thought: Oh, must be Chad's son. Nope, his younger brother :lol
It'll be interesting to see where they go next. I felt bad for Arin because I don't think he ever got to show his potential, but the other guys in the band must have seen something we didn't.
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I saw Wackerman and immediately thought: Oh, must be Chad's son. Nope, his younger brother :lol
I thought the same thing! So they're actually related? That's still pretty cool.
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They're brothers. I was surprised to find that out. 12 years apart, which is what threw me for a loop at first.
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City Of Evil
Waking The Fallen
Self Titled
Sounding The Seventh Trumpet
Nightmare
Diamonds In The Rough
Hail To The King, which is the only A7X album I don't really like apart three tracks.
I'll partecipate to the A7x survivor, great idea!
I can't judge the drummer, but I only hope that they return to write great songs without the Rev
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Interesting drummer choice, hopefully he can revitalize the creativity in the band a bit. Hail to the King is still so dreadful to me.
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I really love Bad Religion, been a fna of theirs for almost 20 years now although I hardly listen to them anymore. I would not have ever thought any of their band members would be a fit for A7X, but I guess we will find out.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C7hlKPqG9M
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I don't get it, are these various snippets of a song they spread out through the game or something? Anyway, this sound does not particularly scream "Avenged Sevenfold" to me, although I do quite like most of it.
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Yeah I think that's what it is.
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These instrumentals are basically better than the entirety of HTTK. They sound more metalcore influenced, which I would LOVE a return to.
Maybe they re-released Waking the Fallen to prepare us for a more metalcore-esque album such as that one? Please?!
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https://www.avengedsevenfold.com/news/a-message-from-avenged-sevenfold (https://www.avengedsevenfold.com/news/a-message-from-avenged-sevenfold)
We recently exercised our rights under California law and notified Warner Bros. Records we would no longer record for them. Few of the executives who have been integral to our continued success are still at the label, and we love and are grateful to them for their hard work. However, since we signed with the label, Warner Bros. has had 3 different regimes, multiple heads of marketing, and none of the senior management or A&R executives who were at the company and responsible for signing us are still there.
Whatever the activity, it takes a full team to compete, and we no longer know most of our teammates. In the coming days, you may read about the lawsuit our label filed against us for exercising our legal rights, rights the State of California granted specifically to protect artists. You may see mistaken facts or worse.
One such error we want to make sure you know about: Avenged Sevenfold has never renegotiated its original recording agreement with Warner Bros. Records. Billboard has now corrected its story to reflect the real facts.
Most importantly, we want our fans to know this: we are in the middle of writing a record we cannot wait for you to hear. We expect to go into the studio very soon, and look forward to releasing our new album later this year.
Until then, we wish all of you a happy, healthy 2016.
Love,
A7X
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Wow.
It's good to see they're soon entering the studio, but what's that whole lawsuit about? May be my limited English knowledge, but I'm not exactly sure what they're being accused of.
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Nice, let's just hope they've learned a lot from Hail of the King.
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It's good to see they're soon entering the studio, but what's that whole lawsuit about? May be my limited English knowledge, but I'm not exactly sure what they're being accused of.
Don't know if this tells the full story, but mainly I think it's simple as A7X not finishing up their overall obligations to them in creating 5 albums while contracted to Warner Bros which A7X opt not to, since they probably do not feel the vibe that the people in charge, now, are showing towards them?
According to Warner Bros., the suit is unlawful for several reasons. The label says the band sent it a letter announcing an intent to leave the contract effective November 25, 2015, but that they did not receive it until November 30.
They claim to invested significant funds in the band's future releases and have been led on to believe the agreement would remain effective, thus making the sudden opt-out unfair and a breach of good faith and fair dealing. The lawsuit also reveals that the band is obligated to turn in an additional CD/DVD live album, which the label purportedly already funded.
Avenged Sevenfold have completed four of the original five studio albums called for by their original contract.
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/avenged_sevenfold_sued_by_warner_bros_for_trying_to_get_out_of_contract.html
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I know a lot of people gave them hell for how the last album sounded... but what if that was the product of the label/A&R people? I don't think they'll ever get back to the sound from the first few albums... but heavier/more aggressive stuff would be great.
We'll see how this lawsuit goes. I can't imagine they are the first band to try this, and it doesn't sound too promising.
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Well that explains why we never heard anything about that live DVD they were working on... kinda.
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We'll see how this lawsuit goes. I can't imagine they are the first band to try this, and it doesn't sound too promising.
Metallica used the same California law to get out of a contract.
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Hmm, this might be controversial, but I think HTTK is the best a7x album. It is strong all round and provides a nice melody. Arin is at his finest and I think his drumming was better than. the Revs for their self titled and WTF. COE was a strong Rev performance, but lacked melody. Their self titled was toon experimented and kinda strayed away from their purpose. WTF was not melodically at all and the scream doesn't stick to me. Nightmare was also great and falls second.
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Well.. no doubt it's controversial as fuck, but to each their own.
I'm currently working on a A7X discography thread and will go through their entire career soon if you're interested :)
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Hmm, this might be controversial, but I think HTTK is the best a7x album. It is strong all round and provides a nice melody. Arin is at his finest and I think his drumming was better than. the Revs for their self titled and WTF. COE was a strong Rev performance, but lacked melody. Their self titled was toon experimented and kinda strayed away from their purpose. WTF was not melodically at all and the scream doesn't stick to me. Nightmare was also great and falls second.
I don't think I can agree with a single thing in this post. Arin is probably the most boring drummer in a famous band I know.
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Arin isn't too bad. You can hear more of what hes capable of on Carry On and Not Ready To Die. His work on Hail is solid as well. The band wanted a simple style on the album and he hit that pefectly.
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Yes. Agreed. I feel like this is syn's finest also. All his solos are brilliant and amazing. Requiem, This means war, etc.
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No.
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Why not?
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Well.. no doubt it's controversial as fuck, but to each their own.
This. But I do enjoy HttK. It isn't their best and the drumming is, well just there, but the songs aren't that bad. The album just doesn't stand out, that's how I feel.
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Why not?
Because Eternal Rest, Second Heartbeat, Clairvoyant Disease, And All Things Will End, Beast And The Harlot, Bat Country, Sidewinder, Strength Of The World, Afterlife, Lost, Danger Line, Buried Alive and Save Me.
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^ MIA, The Wicked End and many more.
For me a fan since 03' HttK it's their worst album.
And All Things Will End ?
Richard Benson – Guitar solos on "I Won't See You Tonight Part 2" and "And All Things Will End"
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Hmm, this might be controversial, but I think HTTK is the best a7x album. It is strong all round and provides a nice melody.
Agreed on this part. A lot of songs sounded like other bands that I am into so I enjoyed it more than their other albums.
I heard obvious Iron Maiden, Guns N Roses, Megadeth, Testament, and Metallica like songs on the album and most of the songs had great melody.
With all of the garbage music out there it was nice to hear a more straight forward - metal - catchy - quality album from someone. Something that is rare nowadays (for me anyway because I dislike most of the singers in newer bands and the style of their songs)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe5Mo1xud08
Sounds great.
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Awesome, I see they're going for a different approach in their career, love the disco vibes!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe5Mo1xud08
Sounds great.
That's some shred right there, nice!
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don't wanna get too hyped because I don't want to get disappointed again but my lord if that doesn't sound like old a7x
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Did you guys hear the preview of their new album? Brooks Wackerman is a beast! :metal :metal
Nightmare is one of the godliest albums they have produced. Rocks :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
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Just started really getting into Avenged Sevenfold, mainly through Hail To The King. I really like Waking The Fallen, City of Evil has some great songs that are very euro metal inspired by stuff like Helloween, Gamma Ray etc. It's a power metal album. But their other stuff didn't do it for me.... Until Hail To The King.
Hail To The King is brilliant. The influences are quite obvious, but it works for them. Coming Home may be my favorite of the bunch. It's clearly a Maiden inspired song, more like reunion era Maiden actually. Planets is great, so is Heretic. I can't wait to see what they do next. I'm curious if they will continue in this direction. Hope they do.
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Just started really getting into Avenged Sevenfold, mainly through Hail To The King. I really like Waking The Fallen, City of Evil has some great songs that are very euro metal inspired by stuff like Helloween, Gamma Ray etc. It's a power metal album. But their other stuff didn't do it for me.... Until Hail To The King.
Hail To The King is brilliant. The influences are quite obvious, but it works for them. Coming Home may be my favorite of the bunch. It's clearly a Maiden inspired song, more like reunion era Maiden actually. Planets is great, so is Heretic. I can't wait to see what they do next. I'm curious if they will continue in this direction. Hope they do.
I got nothing against with Hail to the King, with the exception of This Means War (where, I don't care how they twist it, it does sound almost exactly like Metallica's Sad But True), but your opinion may be a minority one. For me, personally, I would like it if they do keep going of what they did with City of Evil or Nightmare and twist in a way that does not sound like a rehash. Odd that I think this way since out of all of their albums, their self-titled is the only album from theirs in my Top-50.
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Hail To the King single handedly killed my interest in this band.
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I loved Hail to the King, the bland drums don't really bother me at all since I find the songs to be pretty good overall... and yea Coming Home is AWESOME :metal
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Hail to the King has aged like a fine wine.
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I understand the issues people have with Hail to the King, but I still think it's fairly strong. Nightmare is my favorite.
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Because DT
1. Avenged Sevenfold
2. City of Evil
3. Nightmare
4. Hail to The King
5. Waken The Fallen
I don't mess with the trumpets.
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Might as well post my ranking.
1: City of Evil
2: Nightmare
3: Waking the Fallen
4: Avenged Sevenfold
5: Hail to the King
6: Sounding the Seventh Trumpet
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City of Evil
Avenged Sevenfold
Hail to the King
Nightmare
Waking the Fallen
I guess I don't mess with trumpets either, also there isnt much gap between albums, all are fantastic.
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I find City of Evil massively overrated.
Nightmare
A7X
Hail To The King
City of Evil
Waking The Fallen
lol
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I don't why, but Fallen has rose up.
1. Waking the Fallen
2. Nightmare
3. Self Titled
4. City of Evil
5. Seventh Trumpet
6. Hail to the King
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1. Nightmare
2. Waking the Fallen
3. City of Evil
4. A7X
5. Hail to the King
6. Trump
trump doesnt even deserve to be on any sort of ranking tbh what was i thinking
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Might as well post my ranking.
1: City of Evil
2: Nightmare
3: Waking the Fallen
4: Avenged Sevenfold
5: Hail to the King
6: Sounding the Seventh Trumpet
This is factually accurate.
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1. Nightmare
2. Waking the Fallen
3. City of Evil
4. A7X
5. Hail to the King
6. Trump
trump doesnt even deserve to be on any sort of ranking tbh what was i thinking
Why do you prefer City to their Self Titled??
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Just.. more consistent I guess, there's not much else to it. self-titled has the better songs but is not as consistent.
I'm pretty sure the people who prefer self-titled over City of Evil are in the vast minority though, so it shouldn't be too big of a surprise
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I understand about consistency. Self Titled has my favorites: Brompton Cocktail, A Little Piece of Heaven, and Unbound (The Wild Ride), but some of my least favs: Dear God, Lost, Almost Easy, and Scream.
Whereas City of Evil has: Seize the Day, Sidewinder, Strength of the World, MIA, and Trashed and Scattered.
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Avenged Sevenfold
Nightmare
Waking the Fallen
City of Evil
Sounding the Seventh Trumpet
Hail To the King
Yes, I prefer the Trumpets to HTTK. Not that I particularly like either, but I at least have some fond memories associated with Trumpets. It has a nostalgia factor associated with it, though to be fair that's pretty much my only connection with A7X in general at this point.
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Ooh I can rank
A7X
City of Evil
Waking the fallen
Nightmare
STTK
Hail to the king
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How about the Diamonds in the Rough disc? Some good tracks on there, might even put it at #3.
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I only love Dancing Dead on that track. Simply spectacular.
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DitR would be right above Hail to the King for me, coming in at #5. Some really good songs on there! My favorites are Until the End (this is actually one of my favorite A7X songs), The Fight, Demons and the Iron Maiden cover of Flash of the Blade
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How about the Diamonds in the Rough disc? Some good tracks on there, might even put it at #3.
Yea that's a great disc of b-sides.
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To be fair I only gave Hail to the King one listen (and wasn't impressed) my ranking would be:
City of Evil
Waking the Fallen
Nightmare
Avenged Sevenfold
Sounding the Seventh Trumpet
Hail to the King
I really love City of Evil. Top 20 album ever for me :hefdaddy
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HTTK is by far my favorite A7X album. I like City is Evil because of It's power metal, but HTTK just tops it. I love the traditional metal element they incorporated into their sound. Yes, the influences are very obvious but the fact remains, it's an awesome album.
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New album must be coming up. Chris Jericho may have accidentally leaked the title and release date. If he's correct, the new album is called Voltaic Oceans and will be released on December 9th
Head on over to their website and ask questions to the deathbot. Type in the album name for a response, Arin Ilejay, The Rev, Mike Portnoy, etc. Have some fun with it
https://deathbot.net (https://deathbot.net)
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I got nothing against with Hail to the King, with the exception of This Means War (where, I don't care how they twist it, it does sound almost exactly like Metallica's Sad But True),.
And Shepherd of Fire is Enter Sandman.
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Sooooo " The Stage "... That synth intro is taken entirely from The Creature Lives by Mastodon.
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New single "The Stage" streaming on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBYVlFXsEME
Just finished my first listen, guitar solo is a bit too stretched out but the song is really good! Structure reminds me heavily of City of Evil, and I'm really really glad to see the return of the acoustic Synyster Gates outro, really impressed.
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New single "The Stage" streaming on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBYVlFXsEME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxALZkrAIIE
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:metal :metal :metal
I think it's awesome and that video is great
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New single "The Stage" streaming on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBYVlFXsEME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxALZkrAIIE
You give way too many shits about a 3 second intro.
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That sounds better than thee few songs I heard from HTTK.
That is a weird video for A7X. It's not the sort of thing I ever imagined them doing. It was an ok video but didn't really help sell the song IMO. It all sounds promising though.
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I like that song a lot. That intro hooked me in.
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I like it! Some quirkiness has returned after a bit of an absence.
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Loved the video. Liked the song. Seems to be a bit of a return to form. We shall see.
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Very good song with very good instrumental parts and very good drum work too :tup
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I really like "The Stage". It's got dark tone, solid drums, and a healthy dose of shredding. Plus, finger tapping arpeggios? Yes please!
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Ah, yes, I really like The Stage! It contains every element of their I found HTTK to be lacking. Looking forward to their new material very much.
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Sounds like more of the same to me. Didn't like HTK, didn't like this. :'(
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I think it's one of the better songs from Avenged in all of their discography honestly. This song rocks, I can't stop listening to it.
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I think it's one of the better songs from Avenged in all of their discography honestly. This song rocks, I can't stop listening to it.
Agreed. It's amazing...and won't surprise me if it ends up in my top 5 A7X songs list.
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Yeah this song is fantastic. Might just have hit my top 10 Avenged songs. 2016 is blowing 2015 out of the water, no contest.
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I think it's one of the better songs from Avenged in all of their discography honestly. This song rocks, I can't stop listening to it.
Same here. I think I've listened to it 100 times the last 4 or 5 days.
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I don't see the hype. It's an okay song, but doesn't stand with the better songs from the self-titled or Nightmare.
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I don't see the hype. It's an okay song, but doesn't stand with the better songs from the self-titled or Nightmare.
I see your point about Nightmare, but I would argue that no song on the self-titled album is better than "The Stage". No even close, really. That was their worst effort aside from Sounding the Seventh Trumpet. Maybe HTTK is a little worse too, but that still leaves the self-titled near the bottom for me.
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wow... Critical Acclaim? Unbound(The Wild Ride)? Brompton? A Little Piece of Heaven? All top 10 Avenged songs.
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Love the self titled. It's my favorite.
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The sound quality is amazing.
If this album ends up sounding similar to HttK (which I consider the best sounding mainstream metal album in 20 years) while also having more inspired songwriting like the pre-HttK albums... :metal
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The new song is pretty cool.
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wow... Critical Acclaim? Unbound(The Wild Ride)? Brompton? A Little Piece of Heaven? All top 10 Avenged songs.
A Little Piece of Heaven is for sure, but I wouldn't put the others in my top 10. Maybe not even top 20 considering I would put 7 of the City of Evil tracks ahead of them.
I guess that's a problem with a band like Avenged. Their discography is pretty varied from Sounding through HTTK, so some fans won't like the old stuff due to the screaming vocals and low production, whereas many early fans don't like the new stuff because there's either no screaming or it's not City of Evil enough for them.
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Ok so I'd only listened to the new single once. I admit when I first watched the video I was kinda taking that in as well. I thought it sounded promising but didn't really have any desire to listen to it again.
However, I'm at work tonight and one of the guys I support has some rock radio station playing and I hear the intro to The Stage. It immediately made me sit up (I was in my office next door) and think "This is the new Avenged, this sounds so good." I had to go next door and listen to it with him. He'd never heard if A7X so I explained who they were. I've just realised, after a second listen, that I'm actually excited about a new A7X album for the first time in a long time.
Just wanted to share that with you. It's nice when you realise that a song has sunk in that much after one listen, even though I didn't realise it at the time :lol
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From their FB:
On October 27th we will be performing on a very grand stage for the entire world to enjoy. Secure your front row seat by joining us here on our Facebook page at precisely 8:30PM PDT on the 27th.
You'll also be able to watch in 3D 360° and Virtual Reality on www.AvengedSevenfold.com.
This is a MUST SEE live streamed event for fans across the world that you will not want to miss!!!!
That's pretty late for the east coast, but if I am up, I would definitely love to catch this. Avenged is one band that I really like that I haven't had the opportunity to see live before.
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From their FB:
On October 27th we will be performing on a very grand stage for the entire world to enjoy. Secure your front row seat by joining us here on our Facebook page at precisely 8:30PM PDT on the 27th.
You'll also be able to watch in 3D 360° and Virtual Reality on www.AvengedSevenfold.com.
This is a MUST SEE live streamed event for fans across the world that you will not want to miss!!!!
That's pretty late for the east coast, but if I am up, I would definitely love to catch this. Avenged is one band that I really like that I haven't had the opportunity to see live before.
I've seen them a couple times, including the single best concert I've been to. It was the 2nd year in a row that they did the Rockstar Energy tour, so they let fans vote on the songs they wanted to hear. The result was 3, mostly different, set lists that they cycled. I lucked out and got what I thought to be the best of the 3 sets. It had so many of my favorites that it could have been my own personal playlist from my iPod.
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Ok so I'd only listened to the new single once. I admit when I first watched the video I was kinda taking that in as well. I thought it sounded promising but didn't really have any desire to listen to it again.
However, I'm at work tonight and one of the guys I support has some rock radio station playing and I hear the intro to The Stage. It immediately made me sit up (I was in my office next door) and think "This is the new Avenged, this sounds so good." I had to go next door and listen to it with him. He'd never heard if A7X so I explained who they were. I've just realised, after a second listen, that I'm actually excited about a new A7X album for the first time in a long time.
Just wanted to share that with you. It's nice when you realise that a song has sunk in that much after one listen, even though I didn't realise it at the time :lol
Welcome to the family my friend, this album is going to be rad, I just have a gut feeling. :metal
I'm honestly addicted to The Stage, can't wait for the album to pop
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Ok so I'd only listened to the new single once. I admit when I first watched the video I was kinda taking that in as well. I thought it sounded promising but didn't really have any desire to listen to it again.
However, I'm at work tonight and one of the guys I support has some rock radio station playing and I hear the intro to The Stage. It immediately made me sit up (I was in my office next door) and think "This is the new Avenged, this sounds so good." I had to go next door and listen to it with him. He'd never heard if A7X so I explained who they were. I've just realised, after a second listen, that I'm actually excited about a new A7X album for the first time in a long time.
Just wanted to share that with you. It's nice when you realise that a song has sunk in that much after one listen, even though I didn't realise it at the time :lol
Welcome to the family my friend, this album is going to be rad, I just have a gut feeling. :metal
I'm honestly addicted to The Stage, can't wait for the album to pop
Yea, I think on first listen I was just thinking about how weird the video was and a strange direction to go. Absolutely love the intro and will likely pick up the album as soon as it's released (when is the release date by the way?).
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There's no confirmed release date yet. However: https://www.facebook.com/events/705218152979178/
They're suggesting some sort of announcement on the 27th during a livestream on facebook. Will check it out if I have the time, maybe they'll announce an official release date and album title? Or maybe because it seems to be a performance, they'll play The Stage on the livestream, or even a new song? I dunno, I'm pretty hype dough
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I dunno, I'm pretty hype dough
Hype dough is the best kind of dough :rollin
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yes, yes it is
or maybe cookie dough
cookie doughs pretty good
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There's no confirmed release date yet. However: https://www.facebook.com/events/705218152979178/
They're suggesting some sort of announcement on the 27th during a livestream on facebook. Will check it out if I have the time, maybe they'll announce an official release date and album title? Or maybe because it seems to be a performance, they'll play The Stage on the livestream, or even a new song? I dunno, I'm pretty hype dough
They already performed the Stage live last week so I'd imagine it's a guarantee they will play it then as well.
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Looks like Warner Bros. is sending a "fuck you" to the band by releasing an Avenged best of album a week before the new album is expected to drop. Maybe a little bitter about having to release them from their contract lol?
https://loudwire.com/avenged-sevenfold-the-best-of-2005-2013-compilation/ (https://loudwire.com/avenged-sevenfold-the-best-of-2005-2013-compilation/)
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^^ At least, the track listing is good and full of songs everyone, that's an A7X fan, knows. Do casual fans, that's on the fence regarding A7X, actually buy these sorts of greatest hits compilation?
Disc One:
“Bat Country” (City Of Evil)
“Beast And The Harlot” (City Of Evil)
“Seize The Day” (City Of Evil)
“Critical Acclaim” (Avenged Sevenfold)
“Almost Easy” (Avenged Sevenfold)
“Afterlife” (Avenged Sevenfold)
“Dear God” (Avenged Sevenfold)
“A Little Piece of Heaven” (Avenged Sevenfold)
Disc Two:
“Nightmare” (Nightmare)
“Welcome To The Family” (Nightmare)
“So Far Away” (Nightmare)
“Hail To The King” (Hail To The King)
“Shepherd of Fire” (Hail To The King)
“Walk” (Diamonds In The Rough)
“Flash Of The Blade” (Diamonds In The Rough)
“Paranoid” (Covered: A Revolution In Sound)
“Carry On” (Call Of Duty: Black Ops II)
“Not Ready To Die” (Call Of The Dead)
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^^ At least, the track listing is good and full of songs everyone, that's an A7X fan, knows. Do casual fans, that's on the fence regarding A7X, actually buy these sorts of greatest hits compilation?
My opinion, but A7X should not have a double disc best of album. They don't have enough material for that IMO.
Also, just my opinion, but best of albums make no sense in the internet age we live in, but I guess this is a business decision due to contracts and whatnot.
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^^ At least, the track listing is good and full of songs everyone, that's an A7X fan, knows. Do casual fans, that's on the fence regarding A7X, actually buy these sorts of greatest hits compilation?
My opinion, but A7X should not have a double disc best of album. They don't have enough material for that IMO.
Also, just my opinion, but best of albums make no sense in the internet age we live in, but I guess this is a business decision due to contracts and whatnot.
Agreed. If I want a best of album I just make a new playlist on my digital music player lol. It's not like back in the day when you'd have to pop in a CD or cassette (although I barely caught the end of that era).
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Nowadays you can just go on Spotify and let an artist's most popular tracks play. Not much reason for someone to buy a greatest hits or "best of" album. But I was never a fan of compilations to begin with, so maybe I'm missing something.
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Nowadays you can just go on Spotify and let an artist's most popular tracks play. Not much reason for someone to buy a greatest hits or "best of" album. But I was never a fan of compilations to begin with, so maybe I'm missing something.
I can say that I at least used to purchase these types of albums if I wanted to explore a new band (before the internet took over).
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Errrrr, there's nothing from Waking the Fallen!!! :loser:
Can't be a greatest hits!
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Errrrr, there's nothing from Waking the Fallen!!! :loser:
Can't be a greatest hits!
That actually makes this "Best Of" be obviously a Warner Bros. play since Waking the Fallen was not released under that label.
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Obvious fuck you to the band, especially with the release date. I didn't even know Best Of albums was still a thing. Although if Best Of cds were still worth making, I think they could've put together a pretty good one during that long gap between Nightmare and HTTK. You could fill up one disc of solid material for newcomers.
Beast and the Harlot
Critical Acclaim
Bat Country
Unholy Confessions
Seize The Day (I actually hate this song, but it was a single and you need a ballad in there)
Afterlife
Nightmare
Welcome To the Family
Almost Easy
Buried Alive
Second Heartbeat
A Little Piece of Heaven
68 minutes. Also long enough for a double LP, which is why I put a space between Afterlife and Critical Acclaim.
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What annoys me about Best Of albums is when. in this case, they're just chronological. Since you're compiling an official release that you will ask people money from, how about do what any kid with Spotify or Winamp can do, and come up with a nice, interesting and cohesive tracklist, balancing songs from all the eras, the hits, the slower songs, pacing the album in a word? more often than not Best Of albums are 3-4 songs from albums slapped together in order and that's it.
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What annoys me about Best Of albums is when. in this case, they're just chronological. Since you're compiling an official release that you will ask people money from, how about do what any kid with Spotify or Winamp can do, and come up with a nice, interesting and cohesive tracklist, balancing songs from all the eras, the hits, the slower songs, pacing the album in a word? more often than not Best Of albums are 3-4 songs from albums slapped together in order and that's it.
On the flip side, chronological order can be a good way to show how a band has developed over time, which can be better than a random selection of songs with different styles and production styles which can be much harder to fit into any kind of flow. I don't have a strong feeling either way, both can work well.
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I too think it is a total waste like some of you said, I don't see any reason to release 'best of' albums in this day and age unless they add something unique that the separate songs cannot offer.
The fact that this only includes warner era songs makes it even worse since Waking the Fallen is one of their absolute finest records in my mind, and HttK is one of my least favorites. Also agreeing with the sentiment that this kind of thing should be reserved for bands with HUGE catalogues like Maiden. I cringe any time I see a top A7X list since it always includes songs like Almost Easy and Dear God and this best of lineup is no different.
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Could they not include the live version of Unholy Confessions from Live At the LBC?
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What annoys me about Best Of albums is when. in this case, they're just chronological. Since you're compiling an official release that you will ask people money from, how about do what any kid with Spotify or Winamp can do, and come up with a nice, interesting and cohesive tracklist, balancing songs from all the eras, the hits, the slower songs, pacing the album in a word? more often than not Best Of albums are 3-4 songs from albums slapped together in order and that's it.
On the flip side, chronological order can be a good way to show how a band has developed over time, which can be better than a random selection of songs with different styles and production styles which can be much harder to fit into any kind of flow. I don't have a strong feeling either way, both can work well.
Yeah, I didn't really think about this, and the "look at the evolution" angle can work. But in the specific case of Avenged Sevenfold I don't see so many ofputting differences; on an Iron Maiden compilation you put Running Free next to Empire of the Clouds and the uneducated listener goes WTF, with A7X's output, considering how they skipped the screaming years, I don't notice differences so exageated in the sound. I can survive hearing Nightmare right after City of Evil more than I would The Dark Eternal Knight after Another Day.
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Uhhh, I'm a little confused now. So some people can watch the live stream from a VR perspective?
https://loudwire.com/avenged-sevenfold-3d-360-degree-virtual-reality-live-concert-stream/
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What annoys me about Best Of albums is when. in this case, they're just chronological. Since you're compiling an official release that you will ask people money from, how about do what any kid with Spotify or Winamp can do, and come up with a nice, interesting and cohesive tracklist, balancing songs from all the eras, the hits, the slower songs, pacing the album in a word? more often than not Best Of albums are 3-4 songs from albums slapped together in order and that's it.
On the flip side, chronological order can be a good way to show how a band has developed over time, which can be better than a random selection of songs with different styles and production styles which can be much harder to fit into any kind of flow. I don't have a strong feeling either way, both can work well.
Yeah, I didn't really think about this, and the "look at the evolution" angle can work. But in the specific case of Avenged Sevenfold I don't see so many ofputting differences; on an Iron Maiden compilation you put Running Free next to Empire of the Clouds and the uneducated listener goes WTF, with A7X's output, considering how they skipped the screaming years, I don't notice differences so exageated in the sound. I can survive hearing Nightmare right after City of Evil more than I would The Dark Eternal Knight after Another Day.
Agreed, and spookily Iron Maiden was exactly the example I was thinking of. :lol Best of the Beast was what got me into them in the first place.
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What annoys me about Best Of albums is when. in this case, they're just chronological. Since you're compiling an official release that you will ask people money from, how about do what any kid with Spotify or Winamp can do, and come up with a nice, interesting and cohesive tracklist, balancing songs from all the eras, the hits, the slower songs, pacing the album in a word? more often than not Best Of albums are 3-4 songs from albums slapped together in order and that's it.
On the flip side, chronological order can be a good way to show how a band has developed over time, which can be better than a random selection of songs with different styles and production styles which can be much harder to fit into any kind of flow. I don't have a strong feeling either way, both can work well.
Yeah, I didn't really think about this, and the "look at the evolution" angle can work. But in the specific case of Avenged Sevenfold I don't see so many ofputting differences; on an Iron Maiden compilation you put Running Free next to Empire of the Clouds and the uneducated listener goes WTF, with A7X's output, considering how they skipped the screaming years, I don't notice differences so exageated in the sound. I can survive hearing Nightmare right after City of Evil more than I would The Dark Eternal Knight after Another Day.
Agreed, and spookily Iron Maiden was exactly the example I was thinking of. :lol Best of the Beast was what got me into them in the first place.
And for me, it was Edward the Great which was also a chronologically ordered Best of CD that included the Blaze Era. So that was an odd first few listens not really know why there was this other not nearly as good singer, but it did get me sucked into IM.
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It's a brazilian site for the band (not official), but apparently a reliable source and it says the new cd will be released this friday:
https://avengedsevenfoldbr.com/
With cd picture and tracklist with song's lenghts.
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It says December 9 on RateYourMusic.
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Got an invite to the show tomorrow, excited to see what ifs gonna be :metal
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It's a brazilian site for the band (not official), but apparently a reliable source and it says the new cd will be released this friday:
https://avengedsevenfoldbr.com/
With cd picture and tracklist with song's lenghts.
Yeah that does look pretty damn authentic. That'll be quite the surprise if they announce that tonight.
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If they were able to keep a physical release a surprise, I'd be truly shocked. Maybe they physical album gets released in December and they allow digital downloads tomorrow? I do wonder now if there will be some announcement tonight at the big show.
Got an invite to the show tomorrow, excited to see what ifs gonna be :metal
:metal :metal
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If that track listing is correct, they end with a 15 minute song. That would be awesome!
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This is going to be a long album here. Clocks at over 73 minutes.
01. ‘The Stage’ (8:32)
02. ‘Paradigm’ (4:19)
03. ‘Sunny Disposition’ (6:41)
04. ‘God Damn’ (3:42)
05. ‘Creating God’ (5:35)
06. ‘Angels’ (5:41)
07. ‘Simulation’ (5:31)
08. ‘Higher’ (6:29)
09. ‘Roman Sky’ (5:00)
10. ‘Fermi Paradox’ (6:31)
11. ‘Exist’ (15:39)
https://loudwire.com/avenged-sevenfold-new-album-the-stage-oct-28-release-cover-art-track-listing-revealed/?trackback=tsmclip
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I feel like a complete tool listening to it right now but I couldn't hold back the urge, too hyped. And since I won't be home for most of tomorrow and Saturday + tonight it would be hard to hold off. :(
I hate myself for doing it since they have put so much effort into promoting the live event but I wouldn't be able to make it to that one anyway. *spoilers after having listened to just 1 new song* seems like harsh vocals are back!
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That's really interesting and I'm guessing it has leaked then which pretty much confirms the release IMO.
:metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
Now if only I can manage to stay up late tonight...
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Yeah the release has to be tomorrow, I've seen lots of hints towards it and it makes sense that they planned this huge event in anticipation for it as well. I bet they are playing the album in full tonight :metal
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So the countdown on the website is to the live event or the album release?
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So the countdown on the website is to the live event or the album release?
That's for the live event. So you and me would have to sacrifice quite some sleep were we to attend it, that's 5 AM for me :lol
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So the countdown on the website is to the live event or the album release?
That's for the live event. So you and me would have to sacrifice quite some sleep were we to attend it, that's 5 AM for me :lol
Yea, that means it'll be 4am for me. Bit of a shame.
I saw your spoilers bit and I'm hyped. Hoping for a huge return to form. Looking forward to this way more than I ever thought I would.
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So I'm listening to all the Avenged I have on repeat now :metal
I still don't have HTTK but I wasn't impressed after one listen so never went back. I've got all the good stuff :biggrin: maybe I'll give HTTK another go if this new album gets me excited to listen to this band again.
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:omg: :hefdaddy
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All righty, then. This live stream will be on their Facebook page in a few minutes or through VR on their main website.
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So they are performing on top of the Capitol Records Building. Pretty cool setting, I wonder what it's like in VR cause it looks like there are some digital effects
the setlist so far
https://www.setlist.fm/search?query=avenged+sevenfold (https://www.setlist.fm/search?query=avenged+sevenfold)
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^^ Yeah, when they started playing Planets and Acid Rain, they got some effects going that looks like well, a planet and raining acid.
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And a 30 minute set followed by the announcement of the album being out NOW
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So that was the album release announcement. Not bad, but Shadows' singing was a little off.
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Album is out now on Spotify. I'm listening to it now.
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So that was the album release announcement. Not bad, but Shadows' singing was a little off.
Just watched. He wasn't spot on, but it wasn't bad. I have NO IDEA how that dude can sing in that style over the course of a whole concert to start with.
Time to listen to the new album!
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I really thought Voltaic Oceans sounded like a cool album title, but hey, we get a new album now instead.
Gonna listen to it soon
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Oh hey there, Neil deGrasse Tyson.
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This is weird. I don't know what to think about this album. Usually, I would easily cherry-pick like five songs that I claim are in my fave five, but that's not the case here. However, I don't think this is a bad album. This is definitely an album that requires more listens and more focus on certain details of it.
Also, Exist is quite an odd song and that it was not until about 7:30 minutes in where M. Shadows sang. In terms of rating the album compared to the discography, right now, I'm indecisive, but I still rate the self-titled to be my favorite A7X album.
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Interesting album, not at all what I expected. I get sort of a Guns'n'Roses-Use-your-Illusion vibe. Less angry and more mature, but I miss the anger a bit.
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Okay. The events leading up to this is seriously the coolest pre-release promotion I've ever seen, that's so original and a fantastic way to announce the album's release, hats off!
Album has really good moments, the songs took a few listens to sink in but it's really solid. Not sure about Exist though.. that's probably my least favorite despite the awesome first half.
EDIT: Oh and Brooks Wackerman is fucking awesome. Definitely my favorite drummer since Rev, and his style on this album reminds me a lot of the drums on Diamonds in the Rough.
Double EDIT: Sorry for the wall of edits :lol but the following picture may indicate a nice surprise:
(https://i.reddituploads.com/95dc27d562a743ff8d494ec1dbbef74a?fit=max&h=1536&w=1536&s=ef5108ea16e4dd342d3f67921783c007)
https://www.reddit.com/r/avengedsevenfold/comments/59sku4/possible_double_album_voltaic_oceans_album_cover/
Suggesting that the left eye contains the first disc 'The Stage' and the left eye contains the second disc "Voltaic Oceans". This is very plausible if you ask me, the name Voltaic Oceans has been played with before the release of The Stage, and I think we may just be in for a double album. :metal
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The song "Pass the Gravy" isn't on the "The Stage"...
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Rolling Stone caught up with Avenged Sevenfold frontman M. Shadows in advance of Thursday's show to discuss The Stage, his fascination with AI, pushing the envelope with their stage show and how they got one of America's most famous scientists to make a cameo appearance on their record.
Why suddenly release an album with no advance notice?
Well, man, a lot of it has to do with boredom [laughs]. Everyone else is dropping the breadcrumbs, having four or five singles before their record comes out. It completely takes away the mystique of the record; by the time it actually comes out, you've already done 50 interviews about what the record's about and is going to sound like. It's 2016; people's attention spans are so short at this point, who has time for three months of lead-up?
You've got five guys over here who are very bored of that; so for us, it was about keeping the hype very short and sweet, and then executing on all levels. Here's the record – we spent a long time on it, and it's available for you now. And now we can all learn about the record together, after you hear it, instead of hearing all these things about it as we're dribbling crumbs at you. We just said, "No BS this time – we're just going to do everything that we want to do, from the live show to the merchandising, to how we present this thing and how we release it."
Your previous label, Warner Bros., announced last week that they'll be releasing an Avenged Sevenfold greatest hits collection in December. Did you move up the release date of The Stage in reaction to that announcement?
No – I learned about the Warner album for the first time last Friday, the same as you. That was a surprise to us, but this whole thing was put into motion back in August. Chris Jericho did a fake [Instagram] post about this album coming out on December 9th, just to throw people off; he and I were laughing about it the other day, because everyone picked up on it like it was fact.
It has been very difficult to do it this way, because we understand that rock fans really want physical releases, as well as digital – they want to buy the CD, they want the vinyl. We originally said, "Just release it digitally. Everybody's got Spotify; everybody's got this streaming service or that." But we realized that it would really upset some fans, so we decided to pull off a release unlike Radiohead, or Beyoncé or Kanye, where there's actually a physical product in stores on Day One. So, props to Capitol for even trying to undertake this thing, especially internationally. It's just insane.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/avenged-sevenfold-talk-wild-new-ai-themed-album-the-stage-w446962
In reading this article, seems that the band is going for something similar to what Nightwish went for with their last album. Works for me!
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Yeah I kept listening for that oddball snippet they teased a few months back..... So there may be more?! :hefdaddy
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Also I love the new drummer.
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Why suddenly release an album with no advance notice?
Well, man, a lot of it has to do with boredom [laughs]. Everyone else is dropping the breadcrumbs, having four or five singles before their record comes out.
Metallica? :lol
Also, I think this was awesomely pulled off. With Jericho tricking everyone, to the first single being awesome, to the performance ontop of the Capitol Records building (Hey Warner Brothers, go fuck yourself!), to the album being in stores surprisingly to everyone. I only wish there was more to the concert last night than 4 songs, also wished there was more new music performed, but I'm a big fan of Acid Rain so that was cool to see.
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I thought the album was ok after just 1 listen. There are tracks I really liked (The Stage, God Damn, Fermi Paradox), as well as some I didn't care for at all (Sunny Disposition, Angels). Overall , I thinks it fits somewhere in the middle of their discography for me. I'll listen a few more times today to get a better feel.
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The wife picked me up a copy at Best Buy this morning. This was an extremely well executed release.
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Yeah I kept listening for that oddball snippet they teased a few months back..... So there may be more?! :hefdaddy
Do you mean the one they played after announcing the winner of their song tournament? That was the beginning of Exist. Unless you mean the part they played before that which I'm pretty sure was an April Fool's joke.
As for the album, I quite like it. I don't know if it's at the level of City of Evil or Nightmare (I need a few more listens to fully digest it) but there's a lot to love. Roman Sky, Fermi Paradox, and Exist is one of the best final three songs I've heard. Brooks is a beast and his drumming has rejuvenated their music. I like the more progressive nature of this album (obviously) and as far as concepts go, AI is a pretty cool topic.
Going back to Exist, wow what an epic song. That entire 7 minute intro is great, I love how it calms down when M. Shadows comes in, and the ending that builds in energy as Neil Degrasse Tyson educates all of us is an amazing way to close an album.
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Okay... just watched the video they put on FB last night. How the hell does the singer not know the words to his own music? I get that The Stage is brand new, but how could he not have Planets and Acid Rain down?
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Only two listens and I liked it A LOT. I already have the impression that it's the more progressive A7X album to date, so there's very much to absort and it will demand much more listens to fully appreciate it. And yes, the drum work is top notch and very energetic! :metal
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I have been listening to this album since I woke up at 8:30 this morning. After HTTK I didn't think I would ever enjoy a new a7x record as much as their older stuff, or at all. This is legitimately one of my favorite releases of the year right up there with new Periphery, Thank You Scientist, Haken, and The Dear Hunter. Maybe it's not quite on the level of some of those, but it's so surprisingly good I just didn't expect it. It's so interesting and progressive and just well put together, and still so much fun. It just blew me away. PLUS, the drumming is kickass again.
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I listened to three or four songs the other night but I'm going to try and spin the whole thing today. I've loved what I've heard so far and I'm genuinely excited to listen to this thing. I never thought that day would come again with this band :tup
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God Damn is seriously the catchiest thing ever. Can't get that chorus out of my head
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Yea this was great on first listen. I went ahead and bought the album :tup
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I love that they went for it on Exist. Really really digging this album after two listens.
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I love HTTK. I hope the new album is more like it, but with more guitar harmonies and some Beast And The Harlot style chorus's. In other words, I want HTTK with the Helloween influence of City of Evil 😉.
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This album has made me realize again why I love this band so much, I'm on an A7X rush again like I never imagined to ever be anymore since my edgy teen years. Their discography is so interesting cause while they have a very defining core sound, every album still sounds so different from the other.
Nightmare is still my clear-cut favorite but The Stage, WTF and City of Evil are all amazing as well. Not sure where to rank The Stage yet but it would probably be either #3 or 4
I like how pleasantly surprised a lot of progressive metal fans are with this record as well despite having negative preconceived opinions about the band, especially with the song Exist. I'm still indifferent to the sudden mood change, but I think all the different movements within that song are brilliant, especially the Neil DeGrasse Tyson is growing on me and is a unexpected but fantastic end to the album.
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A7X have always been hit or miss for me. I'm checking out the new album now... First impression about halfway through the tracks is that Gates is an absolutely insane player.
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I gave my first listen while playing Rocket League yesterday and while I wasn't paying full attention, the music sounded amazing. I'll be traveling later this week so will have plenty of time to sink my teeth into the album.
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I've listened to it on shuffle a couple times. I still haven't fully engaged myself with it, but so far I find it to be AMAZING! Talk about an ambitious endeavor. All the classic A7X is there, but, again, they've found a new form. The new influences, and where they've gone musically, are just a real pleasure to listen to. It's kinda weird to say this about a band that brings it like A7X, but it's like a breath of fresh air. Not just fresh air, but air I've never heard before. Yes, I can hear air. What, you can't?
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I'm on the first full listen now. I have no intention of putting on something else, every song has surprised me so far and around the end things tend to drag a bit on substandard songwriting. Curious about the 15 minute track coming up next at the very end. The guitar playing has been out-of-this-world so far. I heard so many references to old school metal, Soundgarden, Alice in Chains. A bit cheesy here and there still, but I never knew these guys were so good.
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Pleasantly surprised after first listen. Drums aren't boring like HTTK. Also Shadows' voice is kinda shot, some of those verses in Higher are rough
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I still have yet to make it through the entire album. God those vocals sound absolutely grating to my ears. A shame because I really like what's going on instrumentally.
Theses vocals are Chaos In Motion level for me. :sadpanda:
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I almost envy you guys, I'm reading many positive comments but I've heard the album three times but I barely remember anything off it. The title track is good, but I swear that the only things I remember is that there are two slower songs (especially Roman Sky is great), that the last song is 1/3 instrumental, 1/3 "normal" song and 1/3 spoken outro dialogue, and that's it. I don't remember any verse or choruse, save barely the one for Goddamn.
I discovered the band with the self titled, liked I guess 2/3 of Nightmare and 2/3 of Hail to the King. I wouldn't mind at all being drawn to their music again but so far I have a hard time even remembering the songs :huh: uh well, I hope you're all right and I'm wrong!
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I almost envy you guys, I'm reading many positive comments but I've heard the album three times but I barely remember anything off it. The title track is good, but I swear that the only things I remember is that there are two slower songs (especially Roman Sky is great), that the last song is 1/3 instrumental, 1/3 "normal" song and 1/3 spoken outro dialogue, and that's it. I don't remember any verse or choruse, save barely the one for Goddamn.
I discovered the band with the self titled, liked I guess 2/3 of Nightmare and 2/3 of Hail to the King. I wouldn't mind at all being drawn to their music again but so far I have a hard time even remembering the songs :huh: uh well, I hope you're all right and I'm wrong!
Go back and listen to God Damn again. It's one of the more memorable tracks, in my opinion.
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I've been aware of A7X since City of Evil, and they were always a so-so band for me. But this album changes everything. It's just so well done and the tones are incredible. Also, I didn't know Synyster Gates was such an amazing player. I hear Friedman, Mustaine, Petrucci and much more in there. More importantly, the songwriting is surprisingly varied and interesting throughout. The weak spots are obvious here and there, but there's way more good than there's bad stuff. Fan, would buy tickets.
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Album isn't bad at all, but the riffs are so generic.
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I've been aware of A7X since City of Evil, and they were always a so-so band for me. But this album changes everything. It's just so well done and the tones are incredible. Also, I didn't know Synyster Gates was such an amazing player. I hear Friedman, Mustaine, Petrucci and much more in there. More importantly, the songwriting is surprisingly varied and interesting throughout. The weak spots are obvious here and there, but there's way more good than there's bad stuff. Fan, would buy tickets.
Hell yeah! I mean, sure a lot of people think negatively about this band, but not many could deny Syn is one hell of a guitarplayer, and his solos on City of Evil were literally the first thing that drew me to this band.
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Hell yes, this is the band that I loved when I heard City of Evil, not that watered down, monotonous performance of Hail to the King that had me worried. First listen impressed me, will revisit it soon.
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Early Top 5 for me
1. Fermi Paradox
2. Exist
3. Higher
4. The Stage
5. Sunny Disposition
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I'm not really a fan of this band at all, but the last album I picked up and it was pretty good. I should have a listen to this one.
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I'm on my 4th listen through I think. Certain songs are really starting to stand out, I'll try and give a bit of a ranking in a week or so. I must say I really like the album closer, it's really cool :tup
Glad to have you back boys. Not sure they will ever top City of Evil for me but this new album may out rank Nightmare, only time will tell.
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My (somewhat useless) attempt at ranking the songs. Disclaimer: This is actually impossible to do properly
1. Exist
2. Angels
3. The Stage
4. God Damn
5. Roman Sky
6. Paradigm
7. Sunny Disposition
8. Fermi Paradox
9. Simulation
10. Higher
11. Creating God
I feel bad ranking anything near the bottom cuz its so damn solid, but yeah, this seems about right. Simulation is pretty amazing but I guess the transitions between genres are a bit too random, whereas in songs like God Damn and Sunny Disposition they're smooth as hell.
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My (somewhat useless) attempt at ranking the songs. Disclaimer: This is actually impossible to do properly
1. Exist
2. Angels
3. The Stage
4. God Damn
5. Roman Sky
6. Paradigm
7. Sunny Disposition
8. Fermi Paradox
9. Simulation
10. Higher
11. Creating God
I feel bad ranking anything near the bottom cuz its so damn solid, but yeah, this seems about right. Simulation is pretty amazing but I guess the transitions between genres are a bit too random, whereas in songs like God Damn and Sunny Disposition they're smooth as hell.
:lol didn't you say you weren't a fan of Exist on first listen?
I like Sunny Disposition a lot. It feels really different to anything they have done before, as far as my memory goes anyway. I'd definitely rank Creating God higher and I really like Roman Sky, that would be high. I'll give it a go in a week.
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More so, I HATED that song on first listen. It felt like the biggest waste of space ever. But embracing the album's theme and delving into the Neil DeGrasse Tyson bit made this song so spectacular. Also started noticing the vague distortion on Matt's voice to make it sound a bit more spacey, the attention to detail on this song is fabulous. Angels gets all my praise as well, that's just one of those a7x ballads that managed to click with me really easily. The faster we run now, the closer the gun now is so hauntingly beautiful at the end
And yeah Sunny Disposition is really distinctive. Am I the only one who is getting a Mars Volta vibe from the horns section?
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I have no idea how to rank the songs on this album. All I know is that Exist is definitely number 1.
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Man, I wish the weekend could come faster. I won't be able to get my hands on the album before that and the anticipation is killing me. I had the chance to listen to it once and it just made things worse because it sounded awesome :lol
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Since I love this new album so much I went back to some of their older stuff and there's definitely good songs here and there, but to me The Stage sounds a lot deeper. I definitely prefer the more thrash/prog/grunge angle than the constant dual guitar / punk-ish older style. Love the varied songwriting and the clear yet raw production. My favorite metal release of 2016, even above Alter Bridge and maybe Opeth too. I never expected such greatness from A7X.
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...My favorite metal release of 2016...
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...My favorite release of 2016...
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...My favorite release of 2016...
That's saying something cause this year has been a great one with new music IMO. I'll be giving my first real listens tonight and through the week on my business trip to Germany. This will be a nice treat on the plane. (along with the new Epica that I just finally listened to this week as well).
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Since I love this new album so much I went back to some of their older stuff and there's definitely good songs here and there, but to me The Stage sounds a lot deeper. I definitely prefer the more thrash/prog/grunge angle than the constant dual guitar / punk-ish older style. Love the varied songwriting and the clear yet raw production. My favorite metal release of 2016, even above Alter Bridge and maybe Opeth too. I never expected such greatness from A7X.
Not sure if it is my favourite this year (I love some of the albums this year a lot and there are still a few coming), but consider me surprised how much I am digging this. They definitely went "there", instead of going further in the simplistic direction of HTTK they pushed themselves further than most of their material before it. Much more varied than their previous albums too. And people on this forum were right when the guy was announced, this drummer absolutely nails it. I will buy this album for sure (spotified it on repeat the last few days).
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Was anyone else annoyed by the horrendously overplayed drums in Exist? Its the only song I listened to besides the title track so I wouldnt know if the problem persists anywhere else.
I thought that whole song was a trainwreck but the drums really made it worse for me.
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I really like the drums in that track but in general like it when drums take a bombastic lead every now and then. In fact, I find the spoken word section to be one of the more effective ones I have heard in recent years due to the drums. The groove carries it and there are enough twists and turns to keep things from getting monotonous. But if that is your opinion, I don't think you will like the rest of the album much in regards to drumming. I will say that at times the drumming may be a bit too dominant in the quieter sections, but I was never bothered by it.
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Well, kinda like with the songs "The Art of Dying" and "Finally Free", I love how the drums steal the show and make an otherwise maybe dragging section amazing. I would say this outro is as good as both of those, and that's saying something cause those are among my favorite outro's ever.
@PROGdrummer the 'problem' persists, yeah. If you're not into flashy drums in that sense you're going to hate the last chorus in God Damn and the entirety of Fermi Paradox pretty much, this album is a total Brooks Wackerman show and I personally love it because of that.
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It's mainly the fact that he wouldn't STOP playing during quieter passages. Always touching the toms and the ride when he really probably should have just done nothing. And hammering on the cymbals of the chorus while the guitar is trying to be reserved. I like a drummer who knows when to pull his punches a little bit.
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I get that, but nothing strikes me as off in particular. To me it can work similar to a singer displaying powerful vocals over a mellow acoustic piece or a soaring guitar solo over an atmospheric slower sounding piece of music. I like it when a certain element in music contrasts against the rest of the music. In this album and band, I think it fits. Like I said, there are probably moments where he could've toned down, but there have been no grating moments for me personally. Not to say I don't enjoy more reserved drummers as well and as with any singer or instrumentalist, being able to express music both "small and subtle" and "large and bombastic" is a showcase of one's talent. I just don't think the music presented here necessarily requires it (to the extend I'd call it annoying overplaying), though in some moments it probably could enhance the music. In general though, I find the drumming on this album a big plus.
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Listened to the album about 4 times on my flight while in and out of sleep aND loved what I was hearing. :metal
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Ok, here's my attempt at ranking this beast:
1. Exist (love the epicness and I'm a sucker for anything to do with the enormity of our universe and our subsequent insignificance :lol)
2. The Stage
3. Roman Sky (I love their epic songs where they include strings and stuff, Strength of the World is a top 5 song for me as the ending is the epitome of epic)
4. Creating God
5. Sunny Disposition (love those horns)
6. God Damn
7. Higher
8. Paradigmn
9. Fermi Paradox
10. Simulation (Reminds me of Captive Honour by Megdeth because of the spoken word parts)
11. Angels
Loving this album more with each listen :metal
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I haven't yet heard the new album. Before listening myself, I'm curious, what past albums of theirs would you compare it to? Is it similar at all to HTTK?
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It is unlike anything they've done before and thankfully nothing like HTTK.
The ambition of the album reminds me of City of Evil though.
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10. Simulation (Reminds me of Captive Honour by Megadeth because of the spoken word parts)
Ha, my first thought when I heard that section!
My ranking:
1. The Stage (A metal epic with nods to Metallica, Megadeth and Dream Theater. Definitely my favorite A7X to date.)
2. Sunny Disposition (Horns of course, but I particularly like the bridge part after the guitar solos.)
3. Creating God (Total sucker for AIC/Soundgarden-ish vocals. The lyrics are pretty bad I guess, but whatever. The bridge vocals remind me of Ozzy.)
4. Angels
5. Simulation
6. Exist (The first seven minutes or so up and until the Octavarium-ish 'leslie' guitar solo is amazing to my ears. Not too sold on the Beatles-esque remainder of the song, but the spoken word part at the end is great.)
7. Paradigm
8. Fermi Paradox
9. God Damn
10. Roman Sky
11. Higher
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I haven't yet heard the new album. Before listening myself, I'm curious, what past albums of theirs would you compare it to? Is it similar at all to HTTK?
I'd say it's a good mix of City of Evil and their self titled, but it is also fresh and new :tup
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This took a while to think over but here's my ranking:
#1: Exist
#2: Angels
#3: The Stage
#4: Sunny Disposition
#5: God Damn
#6: Creating God
#7: Roman Sky
#8: Fermi Paradox
#9: Higher
10: Paradigm
11: Simulation
As for the album as a whole: amazing. :tup
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I haven't yet heard the new album. Before listening myself, I'm curious, what past albums of theirs would you compare it to? Is it similar at all to HTTK?
I'd say it's a good mix of City of Evil and their self titled, but it is also fresh and new :tup
I agree!
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Why suddenly release an album with no advance notice?
Well, man, a lot of it has to do with boredom [laughs]. Everyone else is dropping the breadcrumbs, having four or five singles before their record comes out.
So much respect for this. I can't stand the guy's voice or the band's music, including that new album. But I bought a digital copy anyway to support this exact point.
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It's called adjusting to a changing industry. If bands want to drop an album with zero warning. They can.
If they want to put out four or five songs beforehand. Cool.
I can see the validity of both sides.
Personally I'd rather the singles first to build up hype for the eventual album release.
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With bands I know, my hype level peaks with the announcement of a new album. I immediately want to hear it and have an urge to throw my money at them without waiting for reviews. As the months pass, I become more rational. When I hear singles, my excitement drops as I realise that the songwriting is basically more of the same.
But with unknown bands, singles and marketing indeed help to get me interested.
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I'm still surprised that they were able to get physical copies in stores without the surprise being leaked. I think that is the coolest part about the whole surprise. It actually worked. As for the band just releasing it, I agree, it's part of the change in times. If the album is ready, might as well get it out instead of the breadcrumbs. I'm cool with a single before the album comes out (they still did this) to get hyped and a sample of the album, but 4 or 5 songs is a bit much and kind of just spoils the album at that point.
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I think the only reason Metallica didn't do the surprise album thing was that U2 already did it and they'd just be copying.
I do like that on August 18th - out of nowhere they revealed - Album title, tracklist, album art, release date, first single & video all at once.
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I think Metallica has done a great job with the way they are releasing their breadcrumbs. Especially with the live videos as well for all the new songs coming out right after the song is released.
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My first listen and purchase by this band. Holy cow this is great .
Love the drums! :metal
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With bands I know, my hype level peaks with the announcement of a new album. I immediately want to hear it and have an urge to throw my money at them without waiting for reviews. As the months pass, I become more rational. When I hear singles, my excitement drops as I realise that the songwriting is basically more of the same.
That is me as well. But it's a little more of an upsetting issue for me.
I'm a Metallica fan but I despise the breadcrumbs deal, I supported the Sevenfold album even though I'm not a fan at all because I like the way they released it, I truly miss knowing about new albums coming out by walking into a store and "Oh look a new album has come out" or simply waking up to find it online like Sevenfold fans did. I don't give a flying fuck what your gushing whore industry is forcing you to do or how you're "adapting to the times", there is no reasoning sufficient for making fans wait like dogs for 2 or 3 month. Especially with someone like me who only likes 5 or 6 bands and rarely finds new music to enjoy.
So, as immature as that sounds, the way I respond to that is that I very damn well make sure to wait and check very regularly for the leak and get it asap. I know it doesn't hurt the band or the record company and it's not like I'm effectively "getting back at them" but it simply makes me feel better heh
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My first listen and purchase by this band. Holy cow this is great .
Love the drums! :metal
I think the drums in The Stage intro are ridiculously over the top.
So Progmetty spends money on an album by a band he hates but illegally downloads music he loves ?
Ok.
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Listened to this new album several times now and it's grown on me a little. I still think that Gates literally saves a couple songs for me, just as I'm tuning out or wanted to skip to the next track, his guitar playing will save the song.
I agree with what a couple people have said about how busy the drums are, sometimes they can be a bit much, but general I like the drumming on the album.
Does anyone else think that the sonics are a bit too raw and thin? I feel like a times I want it to sound bigger and fuller than it does...
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Alright:
1. Exist
2. God Damn
3. Sunny Disposition
4. Higher (The kick pattern brings this song up about 3 spots :heart :heart)
5. The Stage
6. Creating God
7. Paradigm
8. Roman Sky
9. Simulation
10. Angels
11. Fermi Paradox
But really:
1. Exist/Sunny/God Damn
4. Higher/title/Creating God/Paradigm
8. Roman Sky/Simulation
10. Angels/Fermi
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Add me to the group that likes the drumming. Even when it's fast in those softer spots, I really enjoy that. I'm no where close to forming a ranking of the songs yet.
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It's not a dealbreaker for me, but I do agree that the drumming is over the top in some places. There are a couple spots where I can't help but think, "WTF are you doing right now, man? Let the song breathe."
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I was certain after HTTK the last thing anyone would nag about would be the drums.
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I have no problem with the drums on this album, at all!! Its nice to hear Brooks let loose a bit after being in Bad Religion for so long (I love BR, for the record).
He can smash the shit out of anything as far as I'm concerned.
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I was certain after HTTK the last thing anyone would nag about would be the drums.
I may be in the minority, but the drums never bothered me on HTTK either. Sure it's basic, but the whole album is fairly basic so it felt right to me. This album is not basic at all and the intense drumming feels right too.
I have no problem with the drums on this album, at all!! Its nice to hear Brooks let loose a bit after being in Bad Religion for so long (I love BR, for the record).
He can smash the shit out of anything as far as I'm concerned.
I love BR as well (saw them and they were awesome a month ago) and find it so interesting that this guy as good as he is was playing such simple music in BR.
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I have no problem with the drums on this album, at all!! Its nice to hear Brooks let loose a bit after being in Bad Religion for so long (I love BR, for the record).
He can smash the shit out of anything as far as I'm concerned.
I love BR as well (saw them and they were awesome a month ago) and find it so interesting that this guy as good as he is was playing such simple music in BR.
Yea dude, I didn't realise he was capable of playing like this!!
I haven't seen Bad Religion live for about 5 to be honest. I'd like to see them again, before they get too old.
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I have no problem with the drums on this album, at all!! Its nice to hear Brooks let loose a bit after being in Bad Religion for so long (I love BR, for the record).
He can smash the shit out of anything as far as I'm concerned.
I love BR as well (saw them and they were awesome a month ago) and find it so interesting that this guy as good as he is was playing such simple music in BR.
Yea dude, I didn't realise he was capable of playing like this!!
I haven't seen Bad Religion live for about 5 to be honest. I'd like to see them again, before they get too old.
They are already so old and look it as well, but damn that show was so much fun. I'd definitely see them when they come my way again.
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Bad Religion have some great tracks.
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They definitely have that 'Dad on stage' vibe.
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They definitely have that 'Dad on stage' vibe.
Nailed it!
Saw them a couple times and I always thought the singer had that "just rolled up to the venue in a mini-van after dropping the kids off at soccer practice" feel.
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They definitely have that 'Dad on stage' vibe.
Nailed it!
Saw them a couple times and I always thought the singer had that "just rolled up to the venue in a mini-van after dropping the kids off at soccer practice" feel.
And he pulls it off so well since he speaks really well and is highly intelligent. He also wears this old worn out looking polo shirt while orchestrating a mosh pit. It's great if you ask me.
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They definitely have that 'Dad on stage' vibe.
Nailed it!
Saw them a couple times and I always thought the singer had that "just rolled up to the venue in a mini-van after dropping the kids off at soccer practice" feel.
And he pulls it off so well since he speaks really well and is highly intelligent. He also wears this old worn out looking polo shirt while orchestrating a mosh pit. It's great if you ask me.
Haha yes!! I've only seen him in a polo shirt.
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Yeah Greg Graffin takes that stage and dominates it with his old man persona :lol
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I have no problem with the drums on this album, at all!! Its nice to hear Brooks let loose a bit after being in Bad Religion for so long (I love BR, for the record).
He can smash the shit out of anything as far as I'm concerned.
I love BR as well (saw them and they were awesome a month ago) and find it so interesting that this guy as good as he is was playing such simple music in BR.
Yea dude, I didn't realise he was capable of playing like this!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVdcSmGeCRU
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I have no problem with the drums on this album, at all!! Its nice to hear Brooks let loose a bit after being in Bad Religion for so long (I love BR, for the record).
He can smash the shit out of anything as far as I'm concerned.
I love BR as well (saw them and they were awesome a month ago) and find it so interesting that this guy as good as he is was playing such simple music in BR.
Yea dude, I didn't realise he was capable of playing like this!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVdcSmGeCRU
I've got all of Bad Religion's albums and know he is capable of playing fast, punk rock style drums. That song shows he is a good drummer but it's not particularly flashy.
I love that BR are still releasing solid albums at their age :metal
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I have no problem with the drums on this album, at all!! Its nice to hear Brooks let loose a bit after being in Bad Religion for so long (I love BR, for the record).
He can smash the shit out of anything as far as I'm concerned.
I love BR as well (saw them and they were awesome a month ago) and find it so interesting that this guy as good as he is was playing such simple music in BR.
Yea dude, I didn't realise he was capable of playing like this!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVdcSmGeCRU
I've got all of Bad Religion's albums and know he is capable of playing fast, punk rock style drums. That song shows he is a good drummer but it's not particularly flashy.
I love that BR are still releasing solid albums at their age :metal
Nice and yea I agree about the fast but not flashy which is essentially describing a lot of punk music. I always thought Bad Religion was one of the better musically bands in the punk genre mostly because they included guitar solos.
I've been a fan since I was in 7th grade when I was much more into punk music so I haven't really followed their newer albums like True North, but I've seen them a couple times over the last few years.
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A good example of Wackerman's drumming ability is his work with Tenacious D. Way more advanced than anything he did with BR.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HSSm2k0Y9Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HSSm2k0Y9Q)
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A good example of Wackerman's drumming ability is his work with Tenacious D. Way more advanced than anything he did with BR.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HSSm2k0Y9Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HSSm2k0Y9Q)
This is awesome. Love the D :biggrin:
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Love the D :biggrin:
:rollin
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My first listen for this band and the singer sounds like Axl Rose. Loving the cd!
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His drumming on "Sorrow" by Bad Religion is good. Very Stewart Copeland.
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My first listen for this band and the singer sounds like Axl Rose. Loving the cd!
That was my first thought too (when I first heard Nightmare). I found that I noticed the similarity less & less as time went on though.
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Actually the opposite for me. The more I listen to them (especially recently) the more I notice him sounding like a cross between Axl and James Hetfield.
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Actually the opposite for me. The more I listen to them (especially recently) the more I notice him sounding like a cross between Axl and James Hetfield.
Yes. Pretty much this. Depending on the song he usually either sounds like he's trying to be Het or Axl, it's something that always distracted me a bit from their stuff. That being said, The Stage is continuing to grow on me, there's some really good stuff on there.
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Giving my first shot at rankings, this album has some really diverse tracks so still a bit hard to rank:
Exist
The Stage
Higher
Paradigm
Roman Sky
Fermi Paradox
God Damn
Sunny Disposition
Creating God
Angels
Simulation
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Exist
The Stage
Simulation
Fermi Paradox
Paradigm
Sunny Disposition
Roman Sky
God Damn
Higher
Angels
Creating God
I waited to do the this, but it's still almost impossible to do a ranking for me.
I'm really surprised, after Nightmare and especially after the uninspired HTTK I thought that the band was uncapable of writing really good stuff without The Rev as songwriter. This album for me is a contender with CoE and WTF for their best album.
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Honestly, i can't listen to Exist past the 7 min mark any longer. Just way too slow for me, and then it just seems to drag on once it picks up again at the spoken word section. It starts so balls out though. Kinda disappointing
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https://www.fuse.tv/2016/12/avenged-sevenfold-tour-the-stage-cirque-du-soleil?utm_campaign=fuse&utm_source=facebook&campaign=scl%7Cfbk%7Cfsc&utm_medium=social (https://www.fuse.tv/2016/12/avenged-sevenfold-tour-the-stage-cirque-du-soleil?utm_campaign=fuse&utm_source=facebook&campaign=scl%7Cfbk%7Cfsc&utm_medium=social)
Interesting and I am a big fan of Cirque Du Soleil shows
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I think the whole "We try to be different than everyone else in the 2016 metal scene" attitude is a bit pretentious, this looks cool though, I too am a huge fan of Cirque du Soleil :corn
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He is sort of right that they don't fit in. The metal purists shun them, but they definitely deserve recognition for continuing to make music and evolve while many other bands from the same era burnt out long ago. They are't really following any scene, just doing their own thing. Can't really think of any comparable groups.
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Just wanted to say that I've listened better to the album and I think it's one of the best in 2016. Possibly among my favorites from them, too.
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Admittedly i've not heard a lot of AX7 but they definitely do sound like a lot of bands around at the moment.
Also it's a bit rich saying you want to be different than everyone when your last album sounded SO MUCH like Metallica.
There's not been an AX7 thats stuck out for me like " oh. ok. that's a great song ".
Like an " In Waves " or "Pulling Harder on the Strings of Your Martyr " or a " The Wolf Is Loose " or a " Blood & Thunder ".
It's all a bit bleh for me...And yes I have heard several of their songs.
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https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/avenged-sevenfold/2017/3arena-dublin-ireland-3fb4d3b.html (https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/avenged-sevenfold/2017/3arena-dublin-ireland-3fb4d3b.html)
First set list of the tour. Kind of surprised to see 5 of the 6 first songs from The Stage represented but nothing from the second half of the album. I do hope they perform Exist at some point. I'd love Roman Sky as well.
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I'm interested to see more videos from this tour since they worked with Cirque du Soleil producers to do something that is unique to A7X.
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So I absolutely LOVE The Stage and especially Exist... and since I can't play it on the guitar Ï thought I'd give it a try on trumpet and horn ^^
I also made a music video to go with it ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm-8ayM9Zng
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J5DkL7d2TE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J5DkL7d2TE)
Man, I love this performance of Nightmare from last night. Brooks can do the opening fills better than MP, which I don't mean to slight MP, but he could never really seem to replicate the double pedal work live as well, Brooks' just seem cleaner.
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https://avengedsevenfold.com/news/message-from-avenged-sevenfold-stuttgart-germany/ (https://avengedsevenfold.com/news/message-from-avenged-sevenfold-stuttgart-germany/)
We have some very sad news to report. Last night after our show in Stuttgart, Germany, a 26 year-old stagehand fell from the rafters while breaking down our stage. He fell a very far distance onto a 19 year-old man on the local crew. Tragically, the 19 year-old died from his injuries. The other man is now in critical condition at the hospital.
This is beyond heartbreaking to everyone in the band and on our crew. We all send our thoughts and prayers to the man in the hospital, both families involved, all of the local Live Nation crew and everyone else whose lives have been affected by this terrible accident. We love our crew so much as well as the many local staff who are essential to our show every night wherever we are around the world. This is such a stark reminder of how quickly an accident can happen and lives shattered in the process. When we hear more we will update you.
Wow, that's terrible. :(
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It seems the surprise release of The Stage was not the best decision for the band...
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/avenged-sevenfold-singer-on-the-stage-albums-surprise-release-i-dont-know-if-it-was-the-greatest-plan-in-the-world/ (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/avenged-sevenfold-singer-on-the-stage-albums-surprise-release-i-dont-know-if-it-was-the-greatest-plan-in-the-world/)
Anyway, I saw them last night open for Metallica and really enjoyed the show. I thought they sounded and performed much better than Metallica. The stadium was less than half full for them though and it's always weird seeing a headline act play while it's still light out. However, they were great and used lots of pyro on stage which always gets me excited. Nothing crazy about the short set list, just wish they wouldn't do a drum solo in such a situation and play another song. For Mother's Day, they performed Hail to the King as Hail to the Queen :metal
Hail to the Queen Live Metlife Stadium (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_cwXTuwOIw)
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Old thread, but would like to let everyone know that Avenged Sevenfold is starting a headline tour in January 2018. The kickoff show is in Nashville Tennessee at the Bridgestone Arena with guests Breaking Benjamin and Bullet for my Valentine. I have not heard either of the two backup bands, but will have to check them out.
Those that missed them with Metallica may get another chance.
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Yea, I love Breaking Benjamin and would love to catch this tour for the headline show of A7X (since them opening for Metallica was a short set). Since they say theyve only announced the first set of NA dates, I am hoping they bring the same bands to NJ or NYC.
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Old thread, but would like to let everyone know that Avenged Sevenfold is starting a headline tour in January 2018. The kickoff show is in Nashville Tennessee at the Bridgestone Arena with guests Breaking Benjamin and Bullet for my Valentine. I have not heard either of the two backup bands, but will have to check them out.
Those that missed them with Metallica may get another chance.
Breaking Benjamin's a really great band to me. All five of their albums are pretty darn good. Typical fan favorite albums would be either We Are Not Alone or Phobia (that particular album has their signature song, The Diary of Jane). My personal favorites is either Dear Agony or Dark Before Dawn.
As for Bullet for My Valentine. I don't know too much about them. I do know that they, along with A7X and Trivium, were heralded at some point as the flag-bearers for modern heavy metal I think. That stated, only A7X obviously, has managed to make it to being an arena band. I hear that Bullet for My Valentine's best album is The Poison and that one of their albums, Temper Temper, was apparently a career killer for them. I listened to Venom in full and it was all right, but not really for me.
Anyway, sounds like a good bill. I think if this bill was going to be at the Honda Center in Anaheim (even though it is a place I really hate due to hockey allegiance), I might have gone there depending on ticket prices. That stated, I'm seeing Breaking Benjamin at the House of Blues in Anaheim anyway. Wouldn't mind seeing A7X in SoCal as their only SoCal shows so far has been with supporting Metallica. One of them was at the Rose Bowl, but I didn't go because A. They were too expensive for me and B. I hear the Rose Bowl is really a huge hassle to get in and get out.
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Bullet for My Valentine is one of those bands that has made plenty of great songs but has yet to release a great album. Great fun metal band though. I wanna say they're kinda a modern heavier Motley Crue.
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Bullet for My Valentine is one of those bands that has made plenty of great songs but has yet to release a great album. Great fun metal band though. I wanna say they're kinda a modern heavier Motley Crue.
Completely agree with you. They have a handful of good songs on each album (except Temper Temper...piece of garbage that it is), but I wouldn't even consider listening to an album front to back. They do put on a decent live show. I saw them open for Avenged back in 2011, and then again on their own headline tour in '12. The canadian tour dates are going to be released next week, so I hope Edmonton gets a stop. I didn't feel like handing over $100 for a Metallica/A7X ticket this summer, so I'm banking on them coming in 2018.
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I got into Bullet for My Valentine around the same time as I got into A7X and Trivium. The Poison is honestly a great album. It's a total nostalgia fest for me but it's a great album for its time. I don't really listen to it so much nowadays (and probably not as much as the Trivium and A7X albums released the same year) but it's still pretty great. Shame they went so downhill after this :yeahright
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Breaking Benjamin consistently makes me cringe. I'm glad that A7X is doing some headlining shows, though.
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This is amazing
Roman Sky Acoustic Live (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhDA7DpHatk)
They've got a live acoustic album coming out from this show :metal
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That was awesome! M. Shadows sounded excellent.
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This is amazing
Roman Sky Acoustic Live (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhDA7DpHatk)
They've got a live acoustic album coming out from this show :metal
It actually released today. Digital only. Seems to be available everywhere except Amazon.
I have $12 in Google rewards credit and it is only $5 on the Play store. Buying now.
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Just listening to their self-titled for the first time in ages. It's not my favourite album but damn, do I love Afterlife. It's a great song to air drum to :lol
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It's actually my favorite of them. Afterlife is indeed awesome!
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It's actually my favorite of them. Afterlife is indeed awesome!
Was it your first Avenged Sevenfold album? My first exposure to then was City of Evil and it will always be my favourite. But I can imagine if the first album I ever heard of theirs was the self-titled, I'd love it too.
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Indeed it was my first album. I don't care at all for screaming vocals and I quickly dismissed the early stuff (I still have somewhere some self made edits that completely skip the screaming parts), and City of Evil was hit and miss for me - some songs are gorgeous, some other not so memorable. The self titled was the one I clicked the most with, and I'll always consider A Little Piece of Heaven an absurd gem of wonderful vaudevillian insanity.
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It's actually my favorite of them. Afterlife is indeed awesome!
Was it your first Avenged Sevenfold album? My first exposure to then was City of Evil and it will always be my favourite. But I can imagine if the first album I ever heard of theirs was the self-titled, I'd love it too.
Same. Nothing they've done is as interesting as City of Evil for me. Nightmare comes close, but that and everything else feels like a second rate Metallica/GNR clone.
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It's actually my favorite of them. Afterlife is indeed awesome!
Was it your first Avenged Sevenfold album? My first exposure to then was City of Evil and it will always be my favourite. But I can imagine if the first album I ever heard of theirs was the self-titled, I'd love it too.
Same. Nothing they've done is as interesting as City of Evil for me. Nightmare comes close, but that and everything else feels like a second rate Metallica/GNR clone.
Yup, City of Evil was the first album of theirs I got (a friend gave it to me, said I would like it not long after it was released) and it's been my favorite since. But I really like all their albums. I was bummed they didn't play near me this winter, but they are coming to my backyard this summer so really excited to finally see them do a headline show.
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At first I dismissed this band, but after giving a proper listen to them I've changed my mind completely. 'The Stage' is incredible and probably would've been a contender for album of the year in 2016 if I listened to it then. Anyone else had this sort of turnaround with them?
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At first I dismissed this band, but after giving a proper listen to them I've changed my mind completely. 'The Stage' is incredible and probably would've been a contender for album of the year in 2016 if I listened to it then. Anyone else had this sort of turnaround with them?
Yup. I remember seeing the video for Bat Country back in '05, and i thought these guys were a joke. Almost Easy in the game Rock Band 2 reintroduced them to me in a whole new light. Now they're my favorite band. Their discography isn't all gold, but there's only a few songs i don't enjoy (outside of Sounding the 7th Trumpet, for which the opposite holds true).
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Yup. I remember seeing the video for Bat Country back in '05, and i thought these guys were a joke. Almost Easy in the game Rock Band 2 reintroduced them to me in a whole new light. Now they're my favorite band. Their discography isn't all gold, but there's only a few songs i don't enjoy (outside of Sounding the 7th Trumpet, for which the opposite holds true).
Indeed, 'Sounding...' sucks (containing pretty much all my negative assumptions about them), but their discography seems to almost get progressively better as time goes on, with a few bumps in the road like 'Hail to the King'.
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Back in 2006, A7X was opening for Metallica here in Holland (along with Trivium and Bullet For My Valentine)
At that time I never heard of all 3 opening bands...
Something I regret, because that was an awesome line-up!
After the show I started listening to City Of Evil, Waking The Fallen and Trivium's Ascendancy.
Became a fan of both bands.
I must say that I've lost A7X a bit with Hail To The King and Trivium with In Waves.
For both bands, everything after these albums didn't do it for me...
BFMV never really got my interest. Although Scream, Aim, Fire and Fever have some fun tunes!
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Been a fan since City of Evil and still love A7X. Sucks they just never seem to play the NYC area and when they finally scheduled to come here over the summer and it was cancelled. Still waiting to see a headline show from them (I did catch them open for Metallica 1.5 years ago).
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJX61yybC98
:metal
That episode made want to e*undust this album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIG8RP9PtYU
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Save Me is a great song. I remember MP saying that he was disappointed that he was out of the band by the time they threw this in the Nightmare tour setlist. This band frustrates me so much because they have tons of great songs that they never play live because they feel some weird need to play their "hits" endlessly tour after tour. This song is one of them that got ignored after being played just a few times.
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What a wonderful video! I had no idea there was so much going on in this song.
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What a wonderful video! I had no idea there was so much going on in this song.
Yes, there's a lot going on on that song, it was amazing whatching it.
Waiting for part 2
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Part 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boEI8quKSYQ
:metal
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Part 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boEI8quKSYQ
:metal
That's Nightmare, Part 1 :lol (Which reminds me: I should watch Save Me, Part 2, if it's now available, thanks!)
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Bump...
Haven't heard much from the band lately and just got this email:
Greetings -
You are receiving this email because you have signed up for our mailing list at one point or another. This note is not meant to add to the daily onslaught of click bait and advertisements you will find on the internet these days so we opted to only send to you.
First and foremost, we hope everyone is being as safe as they possibly can out there. As you know, we are living through unprecedented times.
This moment has taught us a lot about the fragility of being a human being and how quickly the world in which we took for granted could be flipped upside down.
Many people are in a tough spot as they grapple with their health and livelihoods. We are all dealing with this in our own ways.
For us, we have taken an inward approach. Spending large amounts of time with our families has been the silver lining.
It has also given us the time to meticulously work on music and other projects. The truth though, is that it has been incredibly hard to record the way we want. For instance, the drum room we required for the album was shut down due to protests outside the building for weeks. String sections and outside musicians have still not been able to be recorded due to Covid-19 restrictions. We are not willing to sacrifice the sound we are going for to work around this. We will wait. There are other issues on the horizon but we are documenting it all for a later release when we can tell the whole story.
At the end of the day it wouldn’t matter anyway. We don’t feel comfortable working on an album this long and then releasing it with no tour in sight. Part of the music we make needs to be expressed through live interaction. While we appreciate the artists who are attempting ‘live streams’ and other events, it just isn’t the way we are choosing to roll this thing out. All of this may change in the future. We are going through this with all of you and feel frustrated as well.
The good news is we also feel recharged and stronger than ever as a unit. We feel the music we have created is _______. Just because we aren’t updating everyone at every step doesn’t mean that we aren’t working. The news gets tiring. Social media gets tiring. Everyone on the food chain fighting for attention and relevance seems trivial. We have chosen to shut our mouths, dig deep and give you something that we feel can add to the collective human conversation. At the end of the day the music will come when it comes. Until then we hope you and your families all stay safe and sane.
A7X
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Well, at least, that's a nice courtesy way to say something to their fans to let them what's going on in their camp.
Been almost four years since The Stage. Man.
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I know I'm in the minority...like WAY in the minority, but I really loved the straight forward approach of Hail To The King. When I want to spin A7X, I go to this one most often.
AND, even though MP was on Nightmare, I don't really like it very much. It's aged poorly for me.
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I know I'm in the minority...like WAY in the minority, but I really loved the straight forward approach of Hail To The King. When I want to spin A7X, I go to this one most often.
AND, even though MP was on Nightmare, I don't really like it very much. It's aged poorly for me.
I agree that Nightmare has aged poorly, but I like Hail to the King even less. My favorite A7X album is a toss up between City of Evil and The Stage.
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At least it sounds like they have an album written. That's a pretty good sign. I think the longer covid travel restrictions are around the more likely it is they'll just release the album, tour or no tour. Assuming they can finish the recording, that is
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Well, at least, that's a nice courtesy way to say something to their fans to let them what's going on in their camp.
Been almost four years since The Stage. Man.
Yea, it's good for them to make a statement and also let's not forget their last tour was cancelled due to the vocal injury so they've really kind of fallen out of the spotlight for a long time now.
Personally, I LOVE Hail to the King. I never understood the hate other than the straight forward drumming but always thought the songs were really good so I never let the drums hold me back from enjoying the songs themselves. It's not my favorite, I think City of Evil still is, followed by the Self Titled.
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Man, about 2.5 years since the last post. Well, no better time to post this. They got a new song out called Nobody and a new album to release. Haven't heard it yet. Will probably do at some point.
https://loudwire.com/avenged-sevenfold-release-new-song-nobody-new-album-first-shows-since-2018/
They have also announced their first live shows in five years. Going to be playing at the Forum and MSG in June. Falling in Reverse will open both shows. I imagine these tickets will go fast through any means, so I'm probably not going to get lucky and nab a ticket at a good price.
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Man, about 2.5 years since the last post. Well, no better time to post this. They got a new song out called Nobody and a new album to release. Haven't heard it yet. Will probably do at some point.
https://loudwire.com/avenged-sevenfold-release-new-song-nobody-new-album-first-shows-since-2018/
They have also announced their first live shows in five years. Going to be playing at the Forum and MSG in June. Falling in Reverse will open both shows. I imagine these tickets will go fast through any means, so I'm probably not going to get lucky and nab a ticket at a good price.
The new single, Nobody, is....different. I'm on my second listen now. The first was a touch underwhelming. The ending solo is great, but the song is such a departure from the A7X songs I enjoy that it's hard to like. Carries on well from the sonic elements of The Stage, so if you enjoyed that album it's right up your album. For me, it's missing the guitar driven elements that made A7X so great in the past. I don't think there's a single guitar harmony on this track.
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I thought the new single was bad. Whatever the click / programmed noise in the background drove me absolutely crazy. Shadows also sounds pretty rough.
The guitar solo was cool but overall I am not optimistic after hearing this. And I enjoyed Hail to the King and The Stage.
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I actually think this was very good. :hefdaddy
Here's the official video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjrRTY2UDjw
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I'm planning on going to the MSG show. Probably won't get to listen to the song till tomorrow since I'm in transit today
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It's a fascinating song.
The strings seem to be the backbone of the song. The intro and first verse sounds sort of empty, like something is missing. This ends up giving the song an eerie, dreadful sort of tone and atmosphere. The video really describes that sound, with the colors, the skeletons, and how it's made.
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I thought the new single was bad. Whatever the click / programmed noise in the background drove me absolutely crazy. Shadows also sounds pretty rough.
The guitar solo was cool but overall I am not optimistic after hearing this. And I enjoyed Hail to the King and The Stage.
I think that's just Brooks' hand work, and not programmed. Still a touch annoying, whatever it is. We'll need to see a live performance to know for sure.
Definitely agree about Shadows' voice. I'm wondering if this is just the new normal for him post-surgery. If so, that's unfortunate.
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It sounded very messy on first listen, a touch annoying and uninspired in the beginning, even. Even so, I’m already on my fifth listen. It’s a fascinating track. Love the harmony vocal break in the middle.
M Shadows sounds a bit different indeed, but I dig the weathered vocal in this track. I also appreciate they didn’t try to make it sound more polished with FX and auto-tune. It sounds like it could be one single take without edits.
Exquisite guitar solo to top it off after the song’s climax. Overall, I’m intrigued. It’s creative stuff and I’m keeping an ear out to see what they’ve come up with.
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Certainly is different for them and I'm cool with that. Don't immediately love it but have a feeling that within the context of the full album it might fit nicely.
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Certainly is different for them and I'm cool with that. Don't immediately love it but have a feeling that within the context of the full album it might fit nicely.
That is my hope as well. The speculation on Matt's voice could be as SchecterShredder mentioned (post-surgery realities) or many online have speculated he is singing to fit the song. We will see.
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I've listened to the track a good 6 or 7 times now. There's absolutely no evidence Vengeance is playing, aside from the rhythm behind the chorus (post chorus?) sweeps Syn does. The section behind the solo is violin tremolo which could be played on guitar, but it doesn't sound recorded that way. I sure hope this track is an outlier. And as previously posted, it might fit well with the rest of the album, but we won't know until June 2.
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First listen.... yeah this is different. The "clicking" is a bit much, but the song is pretty solid otherwise. Curious if this is how Shadows is going to sound going forward or if it's just this song. It definitely sounds like him, just like without the raspiness. I don't hate it, but it's something I'll need to get used to. I wonder how that'll make the past songs sound if this is just how his voice sounds now.
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I quite like like this song. Their sound is maturing, which is not necessarily a bad thing. I agree that Shadows voice sounds a bit worse for wear though, unfortunately.
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New tune rocks :tup
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I’m not a big fan of the new song, which is a shame because Avenged Sevenfold is one of my all time favorite bands and I loved The Stage.
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That "clicking" you guys are hearing is definitely just a really tight hi-hat groove. It's also definitely mixed too high.
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This is a very good interview with M. Shadows.
AVENGED SEVENFOLD on Ronnie Radke, new album, being an "emo band" & more (M. Shadows interview) (https://youtu.be/DPxv1uZOU60)
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Cool interview, thanks!
I'm glad to hear that the new album is more in the A7X's prog camp and there's a lot of diversity on it. I liked the new song a lot!
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Well, the new track, We Love You, is something.... different lol. Not sure how i feel about it yet. It's all over the place.
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What on earth have I just sat through?
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Well, the new track, We Love You, is something.... different lol. Not sure how i feel about it yet. It's all over the place.
There's so much going on, I'm gonna give it a few more tries after I rest a bit from that first spin :rollin
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What on earth have I just sat through?
In the good sense like seeing for the first time the video for A Little Piece of Heaven, or in a bad sense? ;D
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The music is a bit, strange but not bad. The 360 video was cool though.
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Well, that was a journey :lol I don't hate it, but it's a bit much on first listen. This album truly is shaping to be something very different. Also, the vocals are once again a bit different and since there are screams, maybe our reaction to the first single was wrong to think he's lost the voice? I don't know. I'm VERY curious to check out this full album, but I'm not sure if I'll like it or not. I'm almost getting Devin Townsend type vibes from these two songs, where it's just all over the place and diverse.
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I get the Devin Townsend vibe too.
I haven’t listened to these guys in years, mainly because I can’t stand Shadows’ voice. This new song wasn’t terrible I guess? Definitely has me interested in the new album, but I wouldn’t say I’m excited.
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They are definitely leaning in on the progressive side (it felt very progressive metal for a bit there). There was that uptempo section that felt almost like a nod to Slipknot? I don't know about it. I applaud them for trying something different and going all-in but I just don't know if I like it. And that's OK.
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They are definitely leaning in on the progressive side (it felt very progressive metal for a bit there). There was that uptempo section that felt almost like a nod to Slipknot? I don't know about it. I applaud them for trying something different and going all-in but I just don't know if I like it. And that's OK.
I thought that section was more of a nod to their first album
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This will be my favorite album of the decade (so far) if the rest of it is as good as the 2 songs released.
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Gonna take a few listens to determine whether I love it or hate it. Not a lot of melody to latch onto. Just craziness.
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https://blabbermouth.net/news/watch-avenged-sevenfold-plays-first-concert-in-five-years
Also there's a live video for another new song :tup
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I'll check the song out when it's officially released, but the setlist.fm notes more songs played during sound check. I guess that's a taste of what's to come next month when I see them.
Funny enough, I've only seen them once before, 6 years ago today... also on Mother's Day and M Shadows sang "Hail to the Queen" :metal https://twitter.com/Cramx3/status/1657870098151899139 (https://twitter.com/Cramx3/status/1657870098151899139)
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I'll check the song out when it's officially released, but the setlist.fm notes more songs played during sound check. I guess that's a taste of what's to come next month when I see them.
Funny enough, I've only seen them once before, 6 years ago today... also on Mother's Day and M Shadows sang "Hail to the Queen" :metal https://twitter.com/Cramx3/status/1657870098151899139 (https://twitter.com/Cramx3/status/1657870098151899139)
I gave the video about 10sec, and decided to wait on it, too. The quality just wasn't there.
I did watch some of Unholy Confessions and Afterlife. Pretty solid, despite the poor video quality
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Listened to the new song twice on Sunday. Not working for me. I give them props for doing what they want though.
Also, pre-order info popped up in my Amazon feed with a photo that appears to be the album cover. The cover follows suit with the strangeness of the 2 new songs. Looks like they're really trying to break new ground.
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Two singles out and I can’t say I have high hopes for this upcoming album.
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The more i listen to them, the more the new singles fit together. And i can hear some of the sonic similarities to the Stage album. The new album is shaping up to be another step in the same direction, but clearly more bold. Shadows has said he believes a band's sound needs to evolve, otherwise it's just the same record as every other. This is definitely an evolution.
What's interesting is that i can appreciate these 2 songs as quite different from their other material, and i have different expectations for Life is but a Dream as a result. I think the surprise release of The Stage hurt them in terms of fan expectation because nobody knew what was coming, so i was expecting a cross of Hail to the King and Nightmare. Instead we got an inconsistent album that, for me anyway, gets no play outside of the song The Stage (which still gets regular rotation...fantastic track!).
Don't know if I'll like the new album, but I'll definitely give it a fair shake knowing it's not going to sound like City of Evil
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I didnt love "we love you" I can appreciate the band wanting to try new things and new sounds and growing. maybe it will grow on me but first listen was kinda difficult although very unique
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What I find interesting about "We Love You" is the arrangement. I am enjoying the "more" verses a lot. The song also makes a lot more sense now after I watched the video. Which makes me realize these guys are going the extra mile in the experimentation. I thought it was neat. I think it'll be an amazing song live, being able to feel all the lower frequencies during those parts.
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"We love you" by itslef doesn't work for me. But I'm very excited to hear the Avenged Sevenfold album that it's part of. Maybe that was the intention behind the single choice?
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It's always tough to gauge fan reactions but many of those who heard the album in full said it's really, really good. I don't know. I'm in the camp where I have mad respect for them really breaking out and trying something different (evolving as they say) but I also feel that a lot of what I heard is garbage. So maybe the whole album will be much better than individual songs.
There was speculation that Shadow's voice was gone but those live clips don't seem to support that, so that is good news. Never want that to happen to a singer or someone who relies on their voice for their career.
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You know what, I'm really digging these new singles. They go in an unexpected direction, and at this point in a bands career, it's always great to hear.
It won't appeal to everyone, but it appeals to me. I'm hoping they keep you guessing on this album.
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This the Avenged album that should have featured Portnoy :D
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Aw cool Avenged Sevenfold is Pinkly Smooth now.
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hype.
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Forgot it comes out tomorrow, looking forward to checking it out, but a bit iffy going into the first listen
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I can't remember the last time I was genuinely excited about a new Avenged Sevenfold release. The singles have grown on me a bit, and most importantly the album looks like it will surprise the listener and keep them guessing.
I couldn't ask for anymore from the band at this point. Starting first listen now.
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This the Avenged album that should have featured Portnoy :D
This :lol
Just go to the little breakdown in the middle of Cosmic. Sounds like it's straight off Scenes from a Memory!
Double edit: OK, a lot to digest here but I liked it. It goes from frenetic to chill, spans multiple genres and sounds from the last 70 years and keeps you guessing. The final 4 songs were unexpected but I really enjoyed it.
Will give it a second spin later.
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Started my first listen....
Halfway through the first song :eek
Edit: Done with my first listen. There is a lot to digest here. Some parts I loved, others not so much. I think this album will grow on me though :tup
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I don't listen to much Avenged (like some early stuff, dug the album Portnoy played on) but I gave the new album a spin and it is absolutely bonkers...in a good way. Really excited to give it a re-listen.
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Started my first listen....
Halfway through the first song :eek
Edit: Done with my first listen. There is a lot to digest here. Some parts I loved, others not so much. I think this album will grow on me though :tup
I read this as you only made it through half a song. :lol
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:lol I should've been clearer I meant the album, not just the first song.
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On my third listen, I'm already hooked by the album, easily one of the best of this year. It IS experimental and clearly a departure from the last album, but you can still recognize the A7X from Nightmare and Stage on it. It has a lot of heavy moments, but it's not properly a metal album IMO and that really differs from all their discography. The only relative flaw is the last song, which is instrumental, with only piano and orchestra, that I think (as I always do with all the bands that do that approach - indeed a "me" problem) it would better including all the band in the arrangements.
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On my third listen, I'm already hooked by the album, easily one of the best of this year. It IS experimental and clearly a departure from the last album, but you can still recognize the A7X from Nightmare and Stage on it. It has a lot of heavy moments, but it's not properly a metal album IMO and that really differs from all their discography. The only relative flaw is the last song, which is instrumental, with only piano and orchestra, that I think (as I always do with all the bands that do that approach - indeed a "me" problem) it would better including all the band in the arrangements.
Yeah, that threw me off. I don't mind the piano conclusion to the album, but it felt overly long and that it should've been part of the previous song, instead of its own thing (And that's coming from someone who regularly listens to solo piano stuff).
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Finished my first spin of the record. It's definitely a departure from their typical sound, but also a clear progression from The Stage. I agree that it's not exactly a 'metal' album, but the arrangement works in the context of it being a loose concept album about the meaning (or meaninglessness) of life. After one listen I'm gravitating towards Cosmic as my favorite track.
I enjoyed the album, and plan to listen again shortly. The only issue I have is the lack of standout tracks. I can't see myself adding any of the songs to my regular playlists for riding or working out. Seems more like an album meant to be listened to in its entirety while working or driving.
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My initial response to the album after a few listen is, "Huh?" I'm guessing that's due to being so used to their previous metal sound. I'll have to give it another shot without those and maybe it'll land better.
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Getting towards the end of my first listen, and not sure what to think yet. Album is kind of all over the place. Which isn't itself a problem (indeed, in principle it should be exciting) and I never have an issue with a change in style, but I dunno - from one listen anyway it feels like there's a real lack of good melodic hooks, and the production sounds weirdly thin as well.
EDIT: Ok so (O)rdinary is awesome, best song so far.
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EDIT: Ok so (O)rdinary is awesome, best song so far.
:lol first listen and this song just came on and I'm totally digging it.
SO far, this album is pretty good but it seems it's more of an album that needs to be listened to as a whole, even the singles, as it works better that way. I need many more listens. I expected something a bit radical and we got it, I'm just shocked I like it this much on first listen.
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Getting towards the end of my first listen, and not sure what to think yet. Album is kind of all over the place. Which isn't itself a problem (indeed, in principle it should be exciting) and I never have an issue with a change in style, but I dunno - from one listen anyway it feels like there's a real lack of good melodic hooks, and the production sounds weirdly thin as well.
EDIT: Ok so (O)rdinary is awesome, best song so far.
That captures it perfectly! I like my metal to have a hook or some element of catchy melody, and this album doesn't have any of that. It'll be interesting to see which of the new tracks makes it into the setlist for their upcoming tour.
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So far I’m enjoying this more than any of their past albums.
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Hearing classic A7X moments every now and then is "hook" enough for me. Can't say if this can become my new default A7X album or if it will remain for when I'm in a specific mood since it's a bit too weird. But I for now, I enjoy it immensely.
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Yeah I’m just 3 songs into it but I hear plenty of hooks…
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The drumming at the end of Cosmic :metal that song is another standout track for me
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I'm on my second listen now. Two tracks in, and I'm thoroughly enjoying myself. Love the synths on Mattel, and the screaming Shadows does. Great track. Game Over has some System of a Down vibes to it.
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When Mattel started, I thought they were playing I Was Made For Loving You.
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The drumming at the end of Cosmic :metal that song is another standout track for me
Probably the highlight for me, but the album really gets good from then on.
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Listened last night. It felt like I was listening to something profound and yet I wasn't sure if I loved it or not. So much experimentation-in every aspect, from effects to genres. They really shook things up and I respect that.
My takeaway from the album is a sense of sadness and even grief that it seems they are struggling with and it comes through in the music.
I'll give it more spins for sure.
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Listened last night. It felt like I was listening to something profound and yet I wasn't sure if I loved it or not. So much experimentation-in every aspect, from effects to genres. They really shook things up and I respect that.
It's such a pleasant surprise. I LOVE the fact they've shaken it all up on this record. Ultimately, that's what I love to see int favourite artists. Just following your muse, regardless of whether or not it brings you any sort of success.
This is gonna divide fans, but I would rather this than another Hail to the King any day. I was talking to friends yesterday about how impressed I was with the direction this album has gone, and that it could be an AOTY contender. A few friends dug it, the rest were like "are we listening to the same album?" :rollin
I love all the different genres we've got in her, it's all a mixing pot, yet still sounds like the band.
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My takeaway from the album is a sense of sadness and even grief that it seems they are struggling with and it comes through in the music.
I felt a bit of this myself.
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Okay this album is a masterpiece.
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Okay this album is a masterpiece.
That's how i feel about it, too. My friend, and fellow A7X fanboy, vehemently disagrees. He ranks it tied with Sounding the Seventh Trumpet....i.e. at the bottom of the discography.
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Okay this album is a masterpiece.
That's how i feel about it, too. My friend, and fellow A7X fanboy, vehemently disagrees. He ranks it tied with Sounding the Seventh Trumpet....i.e. at the bottom of the discography.
No way, it's definitely more interesting than their first two albums, and Hail to the King.
But man the mix is awful. I wonder if I'd be liking it more if it didn't sound so rubbish. Was it a deliberate sonic choice? Just can't get my head around what they'd have been going for if so. I'm still not sold on the music itself, which is really frustrating because I'm a big fan of 1. the band, 2. experimentation, and 3. exploring and mixing up a range of genres and styles, so this album should have been absolutely my kind of thing. But I find it hard to tell whether I'd have liked it all a lot more if it sounded better. Like, in Mattel when it goes from show tune stylings to suddenly kicking in with riffs and screams, that should have made me lose my shit but it sounds so thin and weak it just has no impact and sounds messy.
I like the band and want to try and get my head round this album so I'll definitely give it a good few listens (which will take a bit of time as I'm massively prioritising my roulette currently), but right now I just don't get it.
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I don't have an issue with the production. I'm not exactly a recording affectionado either though, so it's got to be pretty bad for me to even notice. Sounds great and well mixed through my over ear headphones
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I think the production is great.
I really struggled with this at first but I’m coming around to really liking it. Need a few more listens first.
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My only criticism about the production is the thin drum sound, which is identical to The Stage. But it's a band's choice, I saw an interview with M. Shadows talking about that - it's the type of organic drum sound that they like.
But the album is truly amazing. It's weird and unexpected in places, but the only song I think you can argue is a bit disjointed is We Love You, but personally I also think it's a great one.
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This fucking album man! Four listens down and I want to spin it again. It's looking likely to be my album of the year within about a week.
It's honestly such a nice surprise and took some real balls to release this. City of Evil has always been my favourite A7X album, and my interest in the band slowly dwindled with each release, reaching an all time low when Hail to the King came out. I did like The Stage, and they redeemed themselves somewhat, in my eyes.
But holy shit, this new record has me genuinely excited. What a time to be a fan of the band. I'm hoping it's not recency bias, and am fairly confident it's not.
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After getting completely lost in this album the last could of days, I may have to revisit The Stage.
This new album is really something else, it is kind of hard for me to even work out why I like it so much, every song basically goes on its own musical journey.
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This fucking album man! Four listens down and I want to spin it again. It's looking likely to be my album of the year within about a week.
It’s gonna be close between this and Haken for me. It’s a great time to be a fan of progressive rock and metal.
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This fucking album man! Four listens down and I want to spin it again. It's looking likely to be my album of the year within about a week.
It’s gonna be close between this and Haken for me. It’s a great time to be a fan of progressive rock and metal.
Haken hasn't really clicked for me. It's enjoyable but I don't feel the urge to revisit it, and I don't feel it reaches the highs of most of their previous work.
I think part of why I'm enjoying Life is But a Dream... so much is because it's such a surprise return to form (although unlike their previous form at all). Going into a record with low expectations can often be better than high expectations. I was feeling quietly confident this was going to be different the closer we got to the release date.
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Listened to this again last night. Quite astonishing really the territory that's covered on this release. Each song is it's own unique story. I would have enjoyed being a fly on the wall when the label execs heard this for the first time. I think this could be their best release.
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I don’t know if I enjoy listening to it but I’m halfway and this is some pretty wild stuff. They don’t care about accessibility at all.
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I'm not the most massive fan of this band. but i higghly enjoy this album. it's a trainwreck but i almost liken it to something like Trout Mask Replica. not that they are similar but this record is so off the wall but i still get massive pleasure from it. and most folks i'm betting won't.
and that's fine. but this album is a trip.
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If you are a fan from "Waking the Fallen" up to "The Stage", I don't think this will be too much of a shock for you. 20% of their output has always been whacky, now they just bumped it to 80% for one record.
But maybe people who liked the mainstream singles but didn't care for the album's will find little to enjoy. The reaction on discord is very positive.
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Listened to the album for the first time this afternoon and I have to say I came away rather impressed! Wasn't expecting that at all. Progressively, it's more interesting than about 98% of the material being put out by so-called progmetal bands.
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Progressively, it's more interesting than about 98% of the material being put out by so-called progmetal bands.
This is how I feel. It feels genuinely progressive.
So I think I’m going to do a full discography play through tonight and tomorrow :metal
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I haven't listened to this band since the album Portnoy did with them, but I've heard good things about the new album. Good time to check them back out?
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Yes and you should also check out the previous album, The Stage.
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Kinda pleased at the reaction here honestly.
I'm going through their work album by album today and the new albums weirdness really isn't that much of a surprise.
it's more pronounced that's all.
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Yes and you should also check out the previous album, The Stage.
:tup
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Hot Damn! I haven't been sucked in by an album in a very long time. A7X has always been hit or miss for me. This is not a hit, this is a home run. :metal
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The album really gets going from Cosmos on for me. My favorite is the trilogy of G, (O)rdinary, and (D)eath.
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Finally got around to giving this a spin today. I came away with kind of a bad taste in my mouth and didn't want to listen to it again. Typically I'll give brand new albums 2 spins in a row just to quickly familiarize myself with it, but I just couldn't pull the trigger on the second listen and moved on to the new Fjoergyn album.
I'll try again next week.
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Finally got around to giving this a spin today. I came away with kind of a bad taste in my mouth and didn't want to listen to it again. Typically I'll give brand new albums 2 spins in a row just to quickly familiarize myself with it, but I just couldn't pull the trigger on the second listen and moved on to the new Fjoergyn album.
I'll try again next week.
I totally get that as I couldn't even get through the album the first time I tried. But I decided to try again and something eventually clicked. I think the fact it kind of defies expectation and is probably not what anyone would have expected does make it a potentially tough listen.
I now absolutely love it. Every song is its own mini tour de force of music styles. I have to give the band a ton of credit for this and as others have said above this really is progressive music.
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The album really gets going from Cosmos on for me. My favorite is the trilogy of G, (O)rdinary, and (D)eath.
100% with you. The first few songs are ok, but it really gets good on the back half of the album. I don’t think the friends of mine who are trashing the album ever got to Cosmic to be honest. I’ve been lurking on Reddit and Facebook and this release is really dividing the fan base to the extreme. Seems to be heralded as the second coming, or the worst thing they’ve ever released :rollin
I’m taking that as a good sign.
On my whole discography run through and I really do like Sounding the Seventh Trumpet as a debut. It will definitely beat Hail in my rankings, if nothing else. The rest of the catalogue is just stronger, but it is a good foreshadowing of what is to come. Onto Waking the Fallen next :metal I love the damn riffs on this album.
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Progressively, it's more interesting than about 98% of the material being put out by so-called progmetal bands.
This is how I feel. It feels genuinely progressive.
Yeah, I can agree with this too.
I haven't listened to this band since the album Portnoy did with them, but I've heard good things about the new album. Good time to check them back out?
Sure why not? Just know it's a bit of a wild ride. And if you do like it, I would also agree with me7 to check out The Stage which is also fairly progressive but nothing quite like this album. But that album was definitely the bridge between the new album and what you've likely previously heard from the band.
The album really gets going from Cosmos on for me. My favorite is the trilogy of G, (O)rdinary, and (D)eath.
100% with you. The first few songs are ok, but it really gets good on the back half of the album. I don’t think the friends of mine who are trashing the album ever got to Cosmic to be honest. I’ve been lurking on Reddit and Facebook and this release is really dividing the fan base to the extreme. Seems to be heralded as the second coming, or the worst thing they’ve ever released :rollin
I’m taking that as a good sign.
On my whole discography run through and I really do like Sounding the Seventh Trumpet as a debut. It will definitely beat Hail in my rankings, if nothing else. The rest of the catalogue is just stronger, but it is a good foreshadowing of what is to come. Onto Waking the Fallen next :metal I love the damn riffs on this album.
I really like Mattel so I can't truly agree with the album starting at Cosmos, but Cosmos on is definitely the meat of the album and the highlights for me.
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You guys do know it’s Cosmic, not Cosmos, right? You’ve had me double checking that a few times now :lol
Currently up to Hail to the King on my full discography play through. You know, it’s not quite as terrible as I remember, and enjoyable enough, it just doesn’t reaches the highs of literally every other album.
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Cosmic is indeed a great song.
After a good few listens of the album, I've come around to liking it but not loving it. I like that they experimented, and in a way it's maybe a feature of being used to varied music that I don't even think the experimentation is particularly wacky or out there, although I accept it's much more so than their past work. I think there are four really strong songs on here (Nobody, Cosmic, Easier and (O)rdinary). The rest is mostly fine and there are some cool ideas here and there, but most of it I just don't think is executed well enough and I'm definitely not a fan of the mix which feels week and contributes to the album sounding messy.
If this is a new direction for the band then that's exciting, I just hope they do a more accomplished job of it next time. :P
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Currently up to Hail to the King on my full discography play through. You know, it’s not quite as terrible as I remember, and enjoyable enough, it just doesn’t reaches the highs of literally every other album.
Yeah it's a decent album and has a few really good songs, it's just too samey and relentlessly mid-tempo so as an album it gets quite boring.
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You guys do know it’s Cosmic, not Cosmos, right? You’ve had me double checking that a few times now :lol
:lol I definitely get lost in the cosmos some times when posting song titles (I was calling 1985 by Haken 1984 for awhile)
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I finished my listren through.
Rankings if anyone's interested.
1. City of Evil (just Perfect
2. Life is but A Dream......(I know it's early but i've had a dozen or so plays. I love it that damn much!)
3. The Stage. (pure Over the top fun)
4. Avenged Sevenfold
5. Wake the Fallen
6. Nightmare (i'd say this is really very good but the most overrated)
7. Hail to the King )at it's best a cute tribute album to bands of the past At worst.....bland
8 Sounding the Seventh Trumpet (typical debut of the times)
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You guys do know it’s Cosmic, not Cosmos, right? You’ve had me double checking that a few times now :lol
Currently up to Hail to the King on my full discography play through. You know, it’s not quite as terrible as I remember, and enjoyable enough, it just doesn’t reaches the highs of literally every other album.
:facepalm: :rollin
I'll just place blame on autocorrect putting it in as Cosmos.
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I finished my listren through.
Rankings if anyone's interested.
1. City of Evil (just Perfect
2. Life is but A Dream......(I know it's early but i've had a dozen or so plays. I love it that damn much!)
3. The Stage. (pure Over the top fun)
4. Avenged Sevenfold
5. Wake the Fallen
6. Nightmare (i'd say this is really very good but the most overrated)
7. Hail to the King )at it's best a cute tribute album to bands of the past At worst.....bland
8 Sounding the Seventh Trumpet (typical debut of the times)
Also finishing up a listen through of everything and my overall ranking isn’t far off yours…
1. City of Evil
2. Life is But a Dream…
3. Avenged Sevenfold
4. The Stage
5. Waking the Fallen
6. Nightmare
7. Sounding of the Seventh Trumpet
8. Hail to the King
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Yeah.... y'all have The Stage ranked too high, and Nightmare too low.
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Also, it sounds like Beautiful Morning has a nod to Alice in Chain's Them Bones...certainly A7Xified, but it made my ears perk up :)
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Also, it sounds like Beautiful Morning has a nod to Alice in Chain's Them Bones...certainly A7Xified, but it made my ears perk up :)
Yes Nick agree with that. The start has a very AIC vibe and then it morphs into something else entirely. I really love that song, one of my favourites on the album.
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Someone mentioned this album and called it 'unhinged' which intrigued me.
Now aside from some of their relative hit songs, I don't know a lot about this band so it was easy to go into this without prejudice and I loved it. Crazy stuff, I have no idea what they're trying to accomplish at times, this sort of whacky nonsense is right up my alley!
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Yeah.... y'all have The Stage ranked too high, and Nightmare too low.
But City of Evil is at the top and that's what I agree with
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Yeah.... y'all have The Stage ranked too high, and Nightmare too low.
I honestly feel nightmare while really good is a tad overhyped that's all.
and come on the stage (which i'm actually playing now) kicks ass.
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Yeah.... y'all have The Stage ranked too high, and Nightmare too low.
But City of Evil is at the top and that's what I agree with
Such a groundbreaking and important album for me. 2005 was the year I started really exploring metal and discovering a ton of my favourite bands.
Yeah.... y'all have The Stage ranked too high, and Nightmare too low.
I honestly feel nightmare while really good is a tad overhyped that's all.
and come on the stage (which i'm actually playing now) kicks ass.
Yea, I actually really like Nightmare. It struck me on my play through that they have a pretty strong catalogue. City of Evil is significantly better than everything else, but the rest of the albums are actually pretty close.
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I wasn't really into Nightmare until my little musical ensemble decided to cover the album cover to cover. Learning all the songs gave me a new appreciation for the record.
I don't think anyone questions City of Evil being at the top of their discog. Just a fantastic album. Seize the Day is the low point on the album for me, and it's still a quality track.
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Cosmic is my song of the year right now. It hits so hard, and has a bit of everything that I look for in music :heart
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Cosmic is my song of the year right now. It hits so hard, and has a bit of everything that I look for in music :heart
Saw an interview clip on tiktok where M SHadows was asked if they will play this song. He said yes, but not likely on the first run of dates. He said he already noticed this song is getting huge fan attention and they've already practiced and played it. I'm seeing them in 2 weeks in NYC, hoping by first run of dates he meant the shows that already happened.
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Ok it’s official, Life Is But a Dream… is their best! Awesome album! :metal
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Cosmic is my song of the year right now. It hits so hard, and has a bit of everything that I look for in music :heart
Saw an interview clip on tiktok where M SHadows was asked if they will play this song. He said yes, but not likely on the first run of dates. He said he already noticed this song is getting huge fan attention and they've already practiced and played it. I'm seeing them in 2 weeks in NYC, hoping by first run of dates he meant the shows that already happened.
I hope they end up playing a lot of songs from this album.
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I haven't been able to listen to Life...a ton, but the last time it started to click...
I don't think I like it as much as The Stage, for now, although I do appreciate the boldness. In a way, I think of The Stage as their Faith No More-going-prog-metal album...meaning, pretty crazy and eclectic, but somehow managing to keep it all together nicely. The last one is more of their "Mr. Bungle", perhaps? :biggrin: A little too over the place, maybe... and not everything works.
Gotta say, though, that it makes me want to go back to it, so they are doing something right...
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I’m not a giant fan, although I’ve really enjoyed some of their popular stuff, including Nightmare, but this album is a masterpiece. Wikipedia labels it as avant garde, among others, and I’m inclined to agree. It’s not necessarily an easy listen, but it will continue to get better with time. Album of the year so far
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Yes, I have also labeled this album as avant garde so totally agree with that. It is an album that gets better with each listen. It is hard to put a finger on why but once I finish it, I feel like listening to it all again.
So I am thinking this has to be because of how unconventional it actually is. It feels fresh and new which in today's music scene is very hard to achieve.
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So, I'm not really into these guys at all. I think I have Hail to the King and maybe Nightmare on CD somewhere. They are fine but never a band that really ever grabbed me. Anyway, I didn't listen to the last one so I actually thought Hail was their last album, jeez time flies.
Anyway, I decided to have a listen to the new one based on the comments here. Needless to say after listening, I was very, very confused. I thought I must have been listening to the wrong album. To say I was taken by surprise is an understatement.
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So, I'm not really into these guys at all. I think I have Hail to the King and maybe Nightmare on CD somewhere. They are fine but never a band that really ever grabbed me. Anyway, I didn't listen to the last one so I actually thought Hail was their last album, jeez time flies.
Anyway, I decided to have a listen to the new one based on the comments here. Needless to say after listening, I was very, very confused. I thought I must have been listening to the wrong album. To say I was taken by surprise is an understatement.
I started listening to it as well, and this was my exact reaction.
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So, I'm not really into these guys at all. I think I have Hail to the King and maybe Nightmare on CD somewhere. They are fine but never a band that really ever grabbed me. Anyway, I didn't listen to the last one so I actually thought Hail was their last album, jeez time flies.
Anyway, I decided to have a listen to the new one based on the comments here. Needless to say after listening, I was very, very confused. I thought I must have been listening to the wrong album. To say I was taken by surprise is an understatement.
I started listening to it as well, and this was my exact reaction.
haha, I wondered if you had a listen.
I'll listen to it again just out of curiosity and truth be told, there is some incredible guitar playing on here. Never really followed Gates as a guitarist, but damn.
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So, I'm not really into these guys at all. I think I have Hail to the King and maybe Nightmare on CD somewhere. They are fine but never a band that really ever grabbed me. Anyway, I didn't listen to the last one so I actually thought Hail was their last album, jeez time flies.
Anyway, I decided to have a listen to the new one based on the comments here. Needless to say after listening, I was very, very confused. I thought I must have been listening to the wrong album. To say I was taken by surprise is an understatement.
Give it a few spins, Kade. I was confused after my first go, and I'm a hardcore fan. Confusion is expected.
The album is a masterpiece. Dig into the overall theme and concept of the album, too. I find it helps to keep the album in context.
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I'll listen to it again just out of curiosity and truth be told, there is some incredible guitar playing on here. Never really followed Gates as a guitarist, but damn.
You're missing the fuck out. He's among the best playing these days. Tons of players can shred. Gates brings such an eclectic blend of styles to his solos that they almost always sound fresh.
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Oh yeah, I've always known his name since the beginning and knew he was a quality player but everything I've sampled back in the day, perhaps just wasn't my thing at the time so I never really studied him and his work as a guitarist. What I heard on this new one confirms your assessment though right away Rich.
So, I'm not really into these guys at all. I think I have Hail to the King and maybe Nightmare on CD somewhere. They are fine but never a band that really ever grabbed me. Anyway, I didn't listen to the last one so I actually thought Hail was their last album, jeez time flies.
Anyway, I decided to have a listen to the new one based on the comments here. Needless to say after listening, I was very, very confused. I thought I must have been listening to the wrong album. To say I was taken by surprise is an understatement.
Give it a few spins, Kade. I was confused after my first go, and I'm a hardcore fan. Confusion is expected.
The album is a masterpiece. Dig into the overall theme and concept of the album, too. I find it helps to keep the album in context.
Was the last one like their old stuff and is this new one a complete departure? Or did the last one have steps heading into this direction. Seems it did based on some of the comments here?
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Maybe I'll do a deep dive into these guys.
I'm gonna have a look now if I have anything on CD.
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So, I'm not really into these guys at all. I think I have Hail to the King and maybe Nightmare on CD somewhere. They are fine but never a band that really ever grabbed me. Anyway, I didn't listen to the last one so I actually thought Hail was their last album, jeez time flies.
Anyway, I decided to have a listen to the new one based on the comments here. Needless to say after listening, I was very, very confused. I thought I must have been listening to the wrong album. To say I was taken by surprise is an understatement.
Yet, I in fact have three of their albums on CD, City of Evil, Nightmare and Hail to the King. :lol
I'll pop them in the car next week and run through them.
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Gave Cosmic a listen since it was being talked about. That was great. I'll try to find time for the whole album tomorrow.
Also, I love singing and playing I Won't See You Tonight Part 1 on my keyboard. My favorite song of theirs.
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Kade, the last album, The Stage, is sort of a bridge between the new record and their earlier catalog. Not quite as out there as this one though
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Kade, the last album, The Stage, is sort of a bridge between the new record and their earlier catalog. Not quite as out there as this one though
Yeah sweet. I'll start with those three albums I own and see what I think. Don't remember anything from any of them to be honest.
The new one was so confusing it makes me want to listen to it again just based on that.
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I LOVE that this album is bringing new fans in, as well as welcoming fans back who lost interest along the way (totally me). To say masterpiece this early on might be hyperbole, but I know this is currently my album of the year and I can’t stop spinning it.
It’s nice to see the buzz and divisiveness of the record is getting it the attention it deserves. I think an album that is getting praised as the greatest album of a decade as well labelled the worst thing they’ve ever recorded is great press. The point is they’re doing something exciting and fresh, which is more than I ever hoped from a band that has reached the popularity these guys have.
Kade, I think being in a state of confusion with this piece of art is pretty standard. It compels you though right. Their earlier albums have flashes of what they are doing on this record, even going back to their debut. It was just a lot less jarring and in your face.
You probably already know this but Nightmare is about the death of their drummer The Rev, and features Portnoy. City of Evil is generally considered their best album I’d say, and a top 25 album of all time for me I reckon. Lastly, Hail to the King is their calculated effort to become the next Metallica. It’s solid but don’t expect to hear anything you haven’t heard done before. Looking forward to your reactions :corn
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The more I listen the more I enjoy the GOD trilogy. That's some fantastic music that I would've never expected to hear from them. I would love to see them play this live.
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They ended their set with the last 4 songs of the album last night apparently. I too would love to see them pull it off.
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I see...
I think I'll buy a ticket now. :metal
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Was the last one like their old stuff and is this new one a complete departure? Or did the last one have steps heading into this direction. Seems it did based on some of the comments here?
It did not evolve in steps, but their albums always had whacky and theatric moments. This time, they just suddenly increased the amount of it.
Definitely check out The Stage soon, it has some awesome guitar leads.
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I see...
I think I'll buy a ticket now. :metal
I’m pretty sure the only time I’ve seen the band live was at Download Festival in ‘06 (how the fuck is that 17 years ago?). They played the main stage in the afternoon, so only had a half hour set or something.
I’d actually consider getting tickets now if they play over here.
Edit: Just checked setlist.fm and this was their set back in ‘06 when I saw them…
Unholy Confessions
Beast and the Harlot
Burn It Down
To End the Rapture
Walk (Pantera cover)
Eternal Rest
Bat Country
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I LOVE that this album is bringing new fans in, as well as welcoming fans back who lost interest along the way (totally me). To say masterpiece this early on might be hyperbole, but I know this is currently my album of the year and I can’t stop spinning it.
It’s nice to see the buzz and divisiveness of the record is getting it the attention it deserves. I think an album that is getting praised as the greatest album of a decade as well labelled the worst thing they’ve ever recorded is great press. The point is they’re doing something exciting and fresh, which is more than I ever hoped from a band that has reached the popularity these guys have.
Kade, I think being in a state of confusion with this piece of art is pretty standard. It compels you though right. Their earlier albums have flashes of what they are doing on this record, even going back to their debut. It was just a lot less jarring and in your face.
You probably already know this but Nightmare is about the death of their drummer The Rev, and features Portnoy. City of Evil is generally considered their best album I’d say, and a top 25 album of all time for me I reckon. Lastly, Hail to the King is their calculated effort to become the next Metallica. It’s solid but don’t expect to hear anything you haven’t heard done before. Looking forward to your reactions :corn
Cheers for the breakdown Luke. Looking forward to City of Evil then based on your opinion. I honestly don't think I've ever put the CD in my CD player.
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I’m not 100% sure City of Evil will be your thing, but I love it.
It’s a weird thing; I know it’s massively important to me as I discovered them at a time I was exploring more metal bands, and discovered them along with other popular stuff at the time (Trivium, Lamb of God, Hatebreed, In Flames, Children of Bodom), however were I to hear the album for the first time now, I know it wouldn’t have the same impact.
That being said there is so much great lead work from Synester Gates as well as impressive drumming from The Rev (so much so that both made my top guitarist/drummer lists).
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I see...
I think I'll buy a ticket now. :metal
I’m pretty sure the only time I’ve seen the band live was at Download Festival in ‘06 (how the fuck is that 17 years ago?). They played the main stage in the afternoon, so only had a half hour set or something.
I’d actually consider getting tickets now if they play over here.
Edit: Just checked setlist.fm and this was their set back in ‘06 when I saw them…
Unholy Confessions
Beast and the Harlot
Burn It Down
To End the Rapture
Walk (Pantera cover)
Eternal Rest
Bat Country
Might be short, but that's an awesome set. The setlist from last night looks solid. Looking forward to seeing them in NYC in 2 weeks. I've only seen them once, opening for Metallica in 2017.
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Loving the album except for the last piano instrumental. A few of the songs have the same vibe as the songs on The Stage.
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Finally listened to the album for a second time this morning. It's an instant masterpiece for me. And I'm not even a fan of theirs, really.
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I’m not 100% sure City of Evil will be your thing, but I love it.
It’s a weird thing; I know it’s massively important to me as I discovered them at a time I was exploring more metal bands, and discovered them along with other popular stuff at the time (Trivium, Lamb of God, Hatebreed, In Flames, Children of Bodom), however were I to hear the album for the first time now, I know it wouldn’t have the same impact.
That being said there is so much great lead work from Synester Gates as well as impressive drumming from The Rev (so much so that both made my top guitarist/drummer lists).
So, I spun this album yesterday, well have a couple of songs to go, and I did that before seeing this post and listening to it this is EXACTLY what I was thinking. Definitely strikes me as an album of the time which would be impactful upon discovering it at a certain time in your younger life, giving off those good memories and nostalgia these days though.
Saying that, I enjoyed it. I think I know why I never caught onto these guys. I certainly at that time was past what they were doing. They have that somewhat pop/punk crossover vibe and for 2005 I was getting into different stuff. I didn't check the first two albums either at the time.
Also, remembering back, I've always struggled with Shadows' vocals. Definitely an acquired taste but I can deal with them here. I guess I have no expectations so I did quite enjoy this album. So nice leads and damn, the solo on......Seize the Day? maybe was amazing. Some of the melodies while a little awkward and rooted more in the punk vibe I did find myself picking up and digging pretty quickly. Can see me spinning it again.
I'll move on to Nightmare today.
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Man, tickets for their show at the Forum last Friday was in the $100+ price range for a nosebleed seat on the resale market. Doesn't help that this was their first headlining non-festival show of the tour which would make demand greater than if the LA show was in the middle of the tour. I would have liked a ticket for this one. They sure are committed in wanting to play a lot of songs on this album, which I appreciate. I wish my favorite bands put more focus on their new stuff rather than play 3-4 songs a night from it in their own headlining shows of the album tour. I guess I could drive 100 miles to the San Diego area in October to see them. On a Saturday as well. I will consider it. Lawn seats seems reasonable.
Putting the GOD trilogy in the encore and put the title track as outro playback sounds like a pretty great and bold move to do.
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Loving the album except for the last piano instrumental.
It’s a really nice piece though…
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I paid $160 cdn for my lower bowl ticket to their show in Edmonton this August. It's about what i expected. I think the nosebleeds here were going for $100. Then again, we only have 1.5m people in the area vs. whatever ridiculous number live in metro LA. This show might sell out, but it's not a guarantee. They're no T-Swift. Or whoever the fuck Luke Coombs is, who sold out the 60,000 seat football stadium last weekend.
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I’m not 100% sure City of Evil will be your thing, but I love it.
It’s a weird thing; I know it’s massively important to me as I discovered them at a time I was exploring more metal bands, and discovered them along with other popular stuff at the time (Trivium, Lamb of God, Hatebreed, In Flames, Children of Bodom), however were I to hear the album for the first time now, I know it wouldn’t have the same impact.
That being said there is so much great lead work from Synester Gates as well as impressive drumming from The Rev (so much so that both made my top guitarist/drummer lists).
So, I spun this album yesterday, well have a couple of songs to go, and I did that before seeing this post and listening to it this is EXACTLY what I was thinking. Definitely strikes me as an album of the time which would be impactful upon discovering it at a certain time in your younger life, giving off those good memories and nostalgia these days though.
Saying that, I enjoyed it. I think I know why I never caught onto these guys. I certainly at that time was past what they were doing. They have that somewhat pop/punk crossover vibe and for 2005 I was getting into different stuff. I didn't check the first two albums either at the time.
Also, remembering back, I've always struggled with Shadows' vocals. Definitely an acquired taste but I can deal with them here. I guess I have no expectations so I did quite enjoy this album. So nice leads and damn, the solo on......Seize the Day? maybe was amazing. Some of the melodies while a little awkward and rooted more in the punk vibe I did find myself picking up and digging pretty quickly. Can see me spinning it again.
I'll move on to Nightmare today.
That’s about the best impression as I hoping from you dude, and I totally get where you are coming from. I’ve always been into punk rock, so that hardcore edge to their music has always appealed.
Back in 2005, I picked up City of Evil around the same time as Ascendancy by Trivium. These bands were kind of easy targets for elitist metal heads to write off, which always made me want to give them a chance and judge their music, not how they were embraced by the metal community. It was the same for My Chemical Romance, who I started listening to the year before. I loved these bands as they were breaking through but damn, a lot of my friends gave me shit for being a fan.
I can see why musically City of Evil would suck you in, but the vocals being a sticking point.
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Ascendancy is a top 50 album for me. That was direction of music I was getting into at that time so makes sense why I didn't really gravitate towards Avenged Sevenfold.
Got through a few songs on Nightmare today. This is much more my thing. How good is the title track? Not sure why I didn't give this one a chance at least.
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The drumming on Life is But A Dream is just incredible. Listened to it a few more times over the weekend. Really strong album, probably a contender for album of the year for me. Not sure if it will be, but it's up there.
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The drumming on Life is But A Dream is just incredible. Listened to it a few more times over the weekend. Really strong album, probably a contender for album of the year for me. Not sure if it will be, but it's up there.
Currently listening to the drumming in the intro to Cosmic and it’s just so damn good. This is my album of the year right now, and will take some catching.
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Ascendancy is a top 50 album for me. That was direction of music I was getting into at that time so makes sense why I didn't really gravitate towards Avenged Sevenfold.
Got through a few songs on Nightmare today. This is much more my thing. How good is the title track? Not sure why I didn't give this one a chance at least.
Did you skip the Self-Titled album? Why?
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Pretty sure Wolfy said he was going to spin the albums he had on CD, which didn’t include the self titled.
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Cosmic is stuck in my head. Fantastic song.
Mattel is fun.
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So, I have not traditionally been a fan of this band, but this new album is fantastic.
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Yup, same. Although I really liked Nightmare. And City of Evil and the self-titled aren't bad. But this new one... wow. And yet it appears to have taken a total panning in some quarters.
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Yup, same. Although I really liked Nightmare. And City of Evil and the self-titled aren't bad. But this new one... wow. And yet it appears to have taken a total panning in some quarters.
No surprise for the beating though. Avenged are too mainstream for this album to go over well. It's just not something the average music fan is going to easily enjoy. Now us prog fans over here at DTF... this is like our bread and butter.
But honestly, for a prog album, this album was much easier for me to digest for some reason say compared to Haken's Fauna (which I did enjoy). I feel like I loved this album on first listen and that's just not normal for me when it comes to prog.
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Ascendancy is a top 50 album for me. That was direction of music I was getting into at that time so makes sense why I didn't really gravitate towards Avenged Sevenfold.
Got through a few songs on Nightmare today. This is much more my thing. How good is the title track? Not sure why I didn't give this one a chance at least.
Did you skip the Self-Titled album? Why?
I own City of Evil, Nightmare and Hail to the King on CD mate, so those are on rotation in the car. I'll get to the rest after those.
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Have to say I am struggling with this one. Got a few listens in and I am just not getting it yet. I love City, Nightmare and The Stage.
Some of my thoughts are this - Brooks' snare sound is not very good. Too muted and not enough snap to it. Many of the songs, to me, feel like almost fragments. I know someone said this would be a hard one to have a track come on shuffle instead of listening as a whole. I'm listening as a whole and am struggling. I don't hate it, I'm not just feeling it yet, if I ever. I don't fault the guys for following their heart. I just might not end up really liking it too much.
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Running through Nightmare, this is pretty good stuff. The title track, Welcome to the Family, Natural Born Killer, Buried Alive, Save Me, all good stuff. The vocals are a lot more palatable on this one too. Really strong actually. I'll be replaying this one. Not sure why I didn't dive into it back in the day.
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Maybe you were inconsolable over Portnoy’s decision :lol
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Maybe you were inconsolable over Portnoy’s decision :lol
He did a phenomenal job on that album, loved his work. Also love the new one, spun it during my workout this am and couldn't wait to start it again.
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Maybe you were inconsolable over Portnoy’s decision :lol
The funny thing is that I remember the whole debacle that happened over this quite vividly. The whole dumping DT and thinking he could join Avenged when that wasn't their intentions at all haha.
On another note, I ran through Hail today and this is a great album. Sounds wonderful and some absolutely ripping solos. Love the straight ahead metal approach here. Will spin it again tomorrow. There's one song that blatantly rips of Sad But True but really enjoyed this one.
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Actually surprised you are enjoying Hail to the King. It seems generally regarded as their worst. Personally, I really liked it. It is a bit basic, but it's still good to me.
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HTTK coming after Nightmare was a big let down. But a decade later I think I go back to that more than Nightmare.
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HTTK ist great for two songs, any two songs, but then it gets too samey.
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There are a lot of crescendo-like effects on this album. It also is all over the place. I admit to not knowing a lot of the band's middle catalog of albums, but this is very different from what I know, and that's not a bad thing. Enjoying it a lot.
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I wasn't surprised to see Matt wearing a Daft Punk shirt recently after I heard (O)rdinary. A straight lift from DP! It's still a fun song.
Overall I'm enjoying the album across the board. You definitely have to try and listen to it front-to-back.
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Actually surprised you are enjoying Hail to the King. It seems generally regarded as their worst. Personally, I really liked it. It is a bit basic, but it's still good to me.
Wow. No complaints here. Best guitar playing of the three albums IMO. Production too. I can imagine the more straight ahead approach may not have been everyones cup of tea from what the band seemed to have cemented themselves as, but I like it a lot.
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Actually surprised you are enjoying Hail to the King. It seems generally regarded as their worst. Personally, I really liked it. It is a bit basic, but it's still good to me.
Sounding the Seventh Trumpet.
There's very little to like on that record. Makes HTTK look like Mozart
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Warmness on the Soul is an amazing ballad, though. Dat piano
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On the subject of HTTK, i think it's pretty good. I probably like it better than The Stage in terms of overall track quality. I like a good 5 songs from HTTK. 6 songs if you count the bonus track, St. James. Icky thing The Stage has going for itself is The Stage; which is their top song, in my opinion.
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Warmness on the Soul is an amazing ballad, though. Dat piano
I'll give you that one. I have Warmness on a couple playlists
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On the subject of HTTK, i think it's pretty good. I probably like it better than The Stage in terms of overall track quality. I like a good 5 songs from HTTK. 6 songs if you count the bonus track, St. James. Icky thing The Stage has going for itself is The Stage; which is their top song, in my opinion.
I'll check this out. I ran through this album again today, I really really liked it. Some very tasty solos on here.
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The solos on Shepherd of Fire, the title track, Heretic, Crimson Day and Coming Home are all very very impressive. Always never thought much of Gates and I don't know why. Super tasteful guitar player.
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Actually surprised you are enjoying Hail to the King. It seems generally regarded as their worst. Personally, I really liked it. It is a bit basic, but it's still good to me.
Sounding the Seventh Trumpet.
There's very little to like on that record. Makes HTTK look like Mozart
Fair enough, I guess a lot of people seem to like the first two albums quite a bit, but I even actually forgot about Seventh Trumpet. Haven't listened to it in forever, but I remember thinking it was decent.
On the subject of HTTK, i think it's pretty good. I probably like it better than The Stage in terms of overall track quality. I like a good 5 songs from HTTK. 6 songs if you count the bonus track, St. James. Icky thing The Stage has going for itself is The Stage; which is their top song, in my opinion.
The Stage (the song) is incredible. Not sure my favorite of theirs, but it's up there for sure.
The solos on Shepherd of Fire, the title track, Heretic, Crimson Day and Coming Home are all very very impressive. Always never thought much of Gates and I don't know why. Super tasteful guitar player.
I discovered the band because a friend of mine in college gave me the City of Evil CD saying "you'll like this" and after the first guitar solo on Beast and the Harlot I was sold. I feel like Gates is underated because too many people think the band are butt rock which makes no sense to me.
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I've gone back to the new album and I'm still confused but this is really something different, unique and intriguing.
I haven't looked into the story but this must be a Truman Show kind of concept? The whole 'good afternoon, good evening and goodnight' thing is the giveaway but I haven't listened closely to a lot of the lyrics.
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Maybe. I could be wrong but Cosmic feels like it's based on the movie Interstellar.
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Maybe. I could be wrong but Cosmic feels like it's based on the movie Interstellar.
I’ve not seen Interstellar but this is my take on Cosmic. It’s from the perspective of someone you have lost, letting you know they are everywhere, in everything, as part of the universe, as we always have been and always will be. If you believe in the theory that all time and space is basically happening simultaneously then the person has returned to the universe, as it were.
They are in every moment, that has been or will be. You’ll find them there, and that’s a comfort. Just as we will return to the universe when we pass. It’s kind of linked to reincarnation. Just my interpretation though.
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That solo though, my goodness.
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Maybe. I could be wrong but Cosmic feels like it's based on the movie Interstellar.
I’ve not seen Interstellar but this is my take on Cosmic. It’s from the perspective of someone you have lost, letting you know they are everywhere, in everything, as part of the universe, as we always have been and always will be. If you believe in the theory that all time and space is basically happening simultaneously then the person has returned to the universes, as it were.
They are in every moment, that has been or will be. You’ll find them there, and that’s a comfort. Just as we will return to the universe when we pass. It’s kind of linked to reincarnation. Just my interpretation though.
I haven't looked at the lyrics or read anything from the band to know what the song is actually about. But musically, every single time I listen to it I feel like I'm in a shuttle lifting off at that 4:50 mark and then when it calms is when you break the horizon and see earth far below but also the stars and universe ahead of you. I may have listened to this song too much under the influence of marijuana. But I can't shake that feeling and it's incredible.
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Life is but a dream has been on steady rotation the past couple days, there's so much clicking w me on this album now. Cosmic may be my favorite A7X song ever. Every member's performance is awesome here, I need to dive into the lyrics soon and get the whole picture. Just a great album.
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While I am probably wrong on it being related to Interstellar, I think there's enough connections to it. I love Interstellar so I am especially fond of this song and forcing it to fit :lol
One of the lyrics says "into that good night." This is what sparked my attention to a possible connection, because Michael Caine's character quotes this poem (https://poets.org/poem/do-not-go-gentle-good-night) to Cooper as he is aboard the spaceship. Of course, it's a famous poem, so that doesn't mean the song and movie are completely connected.
The "there you'll find me" section gives me vibes from when Cooper lands in the 4th dimension and communicates to his daughter by moving books around. This is time travel, which the lyrics kind of allude to. I am being loose with the connections here, but it does give me those vibes.
"Rings of dust and ice
Weightless in the night
There you'll find me"
They have to travel through a wormhole near Saturn, who has rings of dust and ice.
"From all that was before
We shut another door
But not a last goodbye...
I found a way back in (gone)
Until we meet again"
Cooper eventually reunites with his daughter, who has grown of old age while he remained relatively the same age due to his interstellar flight. He is able to give a last goodbye.
Even musically, I get the Interstellar vibe and some of what cram said about the shuttle. Cosmic is such a great name for this amazing song. Even the digitized voice could be Cooper in the 4th dimension (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMxJnoPOFkg) bringing everything full circle.
Thank you for reading my rambling of a song I am adoring.
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I get it dude, I always end up finding media relating to The Wheel of Time (all time favourite series of books) in my own head canon.
Speaking of which, Cosmic could actually relate to The Wheel of Time, since reincarnation is a big part of the overall theme of the series. This could be written from the point of view of [redacted for spoilers] when he dies/becomes one with the pattern.
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Tonight! I'm very excited for this one, a solid couple opening acts too :metal
(https://scontent-lga3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/348592568_793127782383304_5402825241693789915_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=PsUqqUshC0QAX8PvuDL&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-2.xx&oh=00_AfBzMeO9eed6U2xmXG85bkMPXDaQU20T87v8eetApGbdQQ&oe=6499DD19)
I'll be on that street corner at 5:30 :hat before the show
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Tonight! I'm very excited for this one, a solid couple opening acts too :metal
(https://scontent-lga3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/348592568_793127782383304_5402825241693789915_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=PsUqqUshC0QAX8PvuDL&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-2.xx&oh=00_AfBzMeO9eed6U2xmXG85bkMPXDaQU20T87v8eetApGbdQQ&oe=6499DD19)
I'll be on that street corner at 5:30 :hat before the show
Will there be video of the show?! Enjoy - I was going to try to get down there tonight myself but couldn't get out of some commitments.
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I'm sure many will be posting videos, including myself. On the train now
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I'm sure many will be posting videos, including myself. On the train now
Enjoy! I'll have the pleasure in August
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Tonight! I'm very excited for this one, a solid couple opening acts too :metal
(https://scontent-lga3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/348592568_793127782383304_5402825241693789915_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=PsUqqUshC0QAX8PvuDL&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-2.xx&oh=00_AfBzMeO9eed6U2xmXG85bkMPXDaQU20T87v8eetApGbdQQ&oe=6499DD19)
I'll be on that street corner at 5:30 :hat before the show
Damn dude, looks good. I’m pretty jealous (and even more so if they play Cosmic). Looking forward to your review :tup
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Watched some of your vids, cram. Thanks for uploading. That is one crazy zoom you have there!
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Watched some of your vids, cram. Thanks for uploading. That is one crazy zoom you have there!
Thanks, my full video is kind of stupid and its hard to watch as it goes on as I had a bit too much to drink that night with my buddy :lol but it was an incredibly fun night!
Been busy since then so haven't had a moment to write something up, but I'll leave this here:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FzVpP5CWAAEHkId?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FzZ7-VoWIAA0AcY?format=jpg&name=large)
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Watched some of your vids, cram. Thanks for uploading. That is one crazy zoom you have there!
Thanks, my full video is kind of stupid and its hard to watch as it goes on as I had a bit too much to drink that night with my buddy :lol but it was an incredibly fun night!
Been busy since then so haven't had a moment to write something up, but I'll leave this here:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FzVpP5CWAAEHkId?format=jpg&name=large)
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Looked like a great set from what I saw on youtube, did you notice any of the audio issues they were referencing? I think I heard the band openly addressed them between songs too.
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Yeah so I'll write more about the show overall in the concerts thread and just put my thoughts on Avenged here....
Looked like a great set from what I saw on youtube, did you notice any of the audio issues they were referencing? I think I heard the band openly addressed them between songs too.
so let's just get the bad news out of the way first. The sounded absolutely terrible. I'm not entirely sure they addressed it to the crowd. I know I captured some of M shadows talks, but he was just so difficult to hear the entire night even when just talking between songs. My understanding was they got to the venue super late because of delayed flights and didn't get to do a sound check. And I can attest tot he fact that the show was very much delayed. Doors opened about 30 minutes after stated and Living Colour came on 45 minutes after advertised (and hardly played a set at all, 5 songs). When I got to my seats they were still setting up all the drums for the bands. It was quite clear there was something wrong.
So the band sounded VERY low volume wise and what you could hear was very poorly mixed making it almost impossible to hear the individual players as the backing tracks were quite loud and the vocals way too low. It just sounded like shit. Everyone in my section was talking about it (and in my video you can hear my friend constantly talk about it if you listen closely).
Now that that's out of the way... the show was a lot of fun. Openers were great and the venue was sold out and very loud. I guess that's the benefit of the low sound was the crowd just sounded epic at times. The reactions to all the new songs except GOD seemed really good. People were definitely singing along to the singles and Mattel. The older stuff got huge crowd responses though. The set list was pretty good for my tastes. Of course I wish they'd played Cosmic and maybe more stuff from City of Evil, but I can't really complain. A Little Piece of Heaven was absolutely epic live. While tough to hear, I thought M Shadows was overall sounding solid, voice wise.
Their stage was really large. It went quite a bit into the GA crowd and the length was almost the entire stage so it kind of was one of the biggest flat spaces of stage for band that I can recall giving them so much room to move around, which they did. However, my side view didn't really lead to seeing the backing video screen well so I can't comment too much if they had good videos. But the lighting was hit/miss. At times it looked great on the stage but most of the night I was wishing they'd do a bit more to make it easier to see them and there was no pyro or anything really special about their stage show other than the stage itself being huge.
Good show overall for sure and I had a lot of fun. Could have been better though, but the crowd singing along loudly kind of made up for it.
Avenged Sevenfold, Falling in Reverse, Living Colour LIVE @ Madison Square Garden New York City 2023 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBTYhlFply4)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdUFIry9Gt4
This is a cover I did of Gunslinger which I got a lot of views and fantastic comments. I love their new album and will see them for the first time in July.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdUFIry9Gt4
This is a cover I did of Gunslinger which I got a lot of views and fantastic comments. I love their new album and will see them for the first time in July.
Nice dude, a great take on the song.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdUFIry9Gt4
This is a cover I did of Gunslinger which I got a lot of views and fantastic comments. I love their new album and will see them for the first time in July.
Oh wow, that's you? Awesome dude :metal really cool version and sounds great
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I still can’t get over how good Cosmic is. That’s it, that’s the post.
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Same, just in love with it.
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yup, incredible song
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I'm not a huge A7X fan. I first listened to them when MP drummed for Nightmare. Saw the tour. They sort of fell off my radar after whatever that whole thing was with them ripping off Metallica licks. Then a couple weeks ago, a good friend of mine from back on Long island (who went to a lot of gigs with me back in the day), mentioned The Stage to me, and how I needed to hear it. Long story long, we drop messages once or twice a year to each other, and it's usually "go check this out," and we both end up liking something and turning the other one on to new music. Anyway, he is a big A7X fan and recommended The Stage.
Wow, blown away. So grandiose. So much prog. From my first couple listens, it sounds like they just decided to put their sound through the lens of Queen to a degree. And I dig it. I haven't read back through the thread, but where does The Stage generally rank among the fan base?
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The Stage is generally well regarded. But whats more important, is that the album that you disliked (Hail to the King) is not representative of the band.
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The Stage is generally well regarded. But whats more important, is that the album that you disliked (Hail to the King) is not representative of the band.
I'm not sure I speak for the fanbase, but it did feel to me that The Stage wasn't quite as loved as others, but also it was their worst selling album due to it being a surprise release. I don't think it got a fair shake personally. I enjoy it quite a bit, but it may end up being mid tier for me for A7X.
I also agree, HTTK is not representative of the band.
I'd say go check out their newest Life is But a Dream if you liked The Stage. It goes to the next level. Might be my album of the year.
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Saw their show Friday night. Went in mostly cold - knew them as “a try hard metal band from the aughts” and checked out the setlist once.
Wow that was a ton of fun, outdoor show with a larger crowd. Some good solos (kept asking my friend “ok what song was that lol”) and good stage presence. Lead singer was in Megadeth shirt whole show, maybe biggest concert I’ve seen where band has another band’s shirt on, idk was cool. Lights and graphics were kind of weak but w/e.
Highlights live were buried alive, we love you, and the stage. I thought I’d like a little piece of heaven and G/O/D more, but those got drowned in the mix. Those have a ton of nuance that’s drowned out. Something they need to work on if they want to play both sides of the coin live. Also O is chill but probably too on the nose with Daft Punk. Like literally synthesized from 5-6 DP tracks.
For a band I’ve only cared about for 24+ hours was a great show. Brought lots of people in and made some new friends. For album exploring, I’m focusing on The Stage, seems best place to start.
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I'd say go check out their newest Life is But a Dream if you liked The Stage. It goes to the next level.
Not necessarily. I think The Stage is probably their best while the new one is in the weaker half of their catalogue.
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...the new one is in the weaker half of their catalogue.
Heresy
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Yeah, I can't say I agree with that opinion, but if that's what he feels so be it.
Highlights live were buried alive, we love you, and the stage. I thought I’d like a little piece of heaven and G/O/D more, but those got drowned in the mix. Those have a ton of nuance that’s drowned out. Something they need to work on if they want to play both sides of the coin live. Also O is chill but probably too on the nose with Daft Punk. Like literally synthesized from 5-6 DP tracks.
I know the MSG show I attended had sound issues due to them not doing a soundcheck, but I've read that GOD has sounded like shit at other shows. It certainly did at the MSG show, but maybe the issue is a lot bigger than not doing a soundcheck and the reliance on too many backing tracks? I don't really know, but for as much as I enjoy that trilogy, it sucks that the presentation of it has been poor.
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Yeah, I can't say I agree with that opinion, but if that's what he feels so be it.
Highlights live were buried alive, we love you, and the stage. I thought I’d like a little piece of heaven and G/O/D more, but those got drowned in the mix. Those have a ton of nuance that’s drowned out. Something they need to work on if they want to play both sides of the coin live. Also O is chill but probably too on the nose with Daft Punk. Like literally synthesized from 5-6 DP tracks.
I know the MSG show I attended had sound issues due to them not doing a soundcheck, but I've read that GOD has sounded like shit at other shows. It certainly did at the MSG show, but maybe the issue is a lot bigger than not doing a soundcheck and the reliance on too many backing tracks? I don't really know, but for as much as I enjoy that trilogy, it sucks that the presentation of it has been poor.
I'll be seeing them on Friday night, and looking at the setlist....I'll likely leave after Ordinary so I can beat the traffic. Death is a weaker song, IMO, and I have zero interest in a backing track version of Life is but a Dream. I was hoping they would roll out a grand piano so Shadows could play the actual song. Slightly disappointed. Otherwise, the setlist looks pretty good for a current album tour cycle
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I'd say go check out their newest Life is But a Dream if you liked The Stage. It goes to the next level.
Not necessarily. I think The Stage is probably their best while the new one is in the weaker half of their catalogue.
Nonsense wrapped in silliness
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Hey I'm just as disappointed as you guys.
As I've said before, I love variety and genre shifting and like that aspect of the album. Just "SO GENRE, MUCH STYLES" alone isn't enough (for most of us I imagine) and I simply don't think most of the songs are particularly good examples of the genres they cover.
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Who is disappointed? I love Life is But A Dream.
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Who is disappointed? I love Life is But A Dream.
Disappointed that I don't like the album more.
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Who is disappointed? I love Life is But A Dream.
100%
I really do love this album as an experience. The only song I’d listen to, outside of the album, is Cosmic. I’ve just actually finished listening to it again, and it’s one of those albums that flows so nicely that it feels shorter than it is (even though it’s not actually long at all). Most times I listen I feel I could just go right ahead and spin it again. Easily album of the year so far.
I also love it because it’s invigorated my love for the band once more.
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Yeah, I can't say I agree with that opinion, but if that's what he feels so be it.
Highlights live were buried alive, we love you, and the stage. I thought I’d like a little piece of heaven and G/O/D more, but those got drowned in the mix. Those have a ton of nuance that’s drowned out. Something they need to work on if they want to play both sides of the coin live. Also O is chill but probably too on the nose with Daft Punk. Like literally synthesized from 5-6 DP tracks.
I know the MSG show I attended had sound issues due to them not doing a soundcheck, but I've read that GOD has sounded like shit at other shows. It certainly did at the MSG show, but maybe the issue is a lot bigger than not doing a soundcheck and the reliance on too many backing tracks? I don't really know, but for as much as I enjoy that trilogy, it sucks that the presentation of it has been poor.
When you consider the meaning of the Trilogy, and how (G) ends, the backing tracks completely make sense to me. Especially in (O)rdinary, as that song is from the perspective of a Robot wanting the same as a Human, the emotions, the dreams, the desires. Music is one of these desires, so you have the band really presenting the Robot in the live shows. How the Robots in music are considered the backing tracks, and how humans would rather enjoy Live Shows being done by humans, more so than machines such as Backing Tracks. This get's into how Music is now being done by AI, and think of how the future of music will be if the AI music will be presented in a live setting.
I won't be able to see them until October, so I wouldn't know how it'd sound live, but from other bands that do have backing tracks I've seen, those backing tracks need to be mixed in a balanced way with the Live Band sound to come across within the Live Setting.
the GOD trilogy is one of the best trilogies I have heard and it's one that really hit me in my current time of need. Because, I have been recently feeling as if Life is But a Dream.
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Just got back from the show. The mix on the instruments were a little off through the opening two tracks (Game Over and Mattel). By the time Hail to the King came around at song #4, everything was spot on. The stage production was pretty good, but no pyro, unfortunately.
Shadows was very good tonight. He faded a little by the encore, but his voice was wicked good. His range is better than its been in years and years. Only down part was the use of a megaphone-like effect for the opening tracks. I get that it sounds like that a little on the album, but it sounded off in a live setting.
Gates was Gates (i.e god-tier playing).
Overall, very good show and well worth my $120 CDN.
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ok, I'm starting to follow the hype about "Life is but a Dream"
"(O)rdinary" could be a song from Daft Punk or Eldren.
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I only listened to Daft Punk's Discovery album. Do they really write jazzy stuff like the finale to Ordinary?
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Who is disappointed? I love Life is But A Dream.
Disappointed that I don't like the album more.
It is one of their weakest ones in my opinion. But for this band that still means I really like it.
I only listened to Daft Punk's Discovery album. Do they really write jazzy stuff like the finale to Ordinary?
Not sure, they are not a metal/prog/rock artists offcourse, but the track really does remind me of Daft Punk. Random Access Memory is one hell of an album and has some cool/quirky moments for sure.
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I only listened to Daft Punk's Discovery album. Do they really write jazzy stuff like the finale to Ordinary?
(O)rdinary could be on Daft Punk’s Random Access Memories and it wouldn’t sound out of place at all.
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I really do love this album as an experience. The only song I’d listen to, outside of the album, is Cosmic. I’ve just actually finished listening to it again, and it’s one of those albums that flows so nicely that it feels shorter than it is (even though it’s not actually long at all). Most times I listen I feel I could just go right ahead and spin it again. Easily album of the year so far.
For sure, I could have written this myself, and though I have only heard maybe 4 albums for 2023, this album is top for now.
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(O)rdinary could be on Daft Punk’s Random Access Memories and it wouldn’t sound out of place at all.
Interesting, I should give that album a spin soon.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdUFIry9Gt4
This is a cover I did of Gunslinger which I got a lot of views and fantastic comments. I love their new album and will see them for the first time in July.
Nice dude, a great take on the song.
Thank you sir!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdUFIry9Gt4
This is a cover I did of Gunslinger which I got a lot of views and fantastic comments. I love their new album and will see them for the first time in July.
Oh wow, that's you? Awesome dude :metal really cool version and sounds great
Ya I'm the old man on this, thank you! You might want to check a bass cover I just finished of the Who's The real me!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBMGSCyYIAQ
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdUFIry9Gt4
This is a cover I did of Gunslinger which I got a lot of views and fantastic comments. I love their new album and will see them for the first time in July.
Nice dude, a great take on the song.
I just finished this bass cover of The Who's The real me if you want to see.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBMGSCyYIAQ
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Nice! just subscribed
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Nice! just subscribed
Thank you very much. Did the same to your channel.
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:metal :metal :metal
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Was anyone at their show last night? They debuted Cosmic live for the first time...
https://youtu.be/nongiV9WMxw?feature=shared (https://youtu.be/nongiV9WMxw?feature=shared)
Fuck. I need to see this live.
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Was anyone at their show last night? They debuted Cosmic live for the first time...
https://youtu.be/nongiV9WMxw?feature=shared (https://youtu.be/nongiV9WMxw?feature=shared)
Fuck. I need to see this live.
Thanks for posting this, just sealed the deal for the 3/21 show in CT. Really looking forward to this show now
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I'll be there for their show in Cleveland. Looks like they made some adjustments to the set compared to the previous tour after looking at setlist.fm. Putting it in small font below for those that want to avoid spoilers.
Whilst I would have liked to see them keep the G.O.D. encore, I can't really complain if they want to bring a deep cut from City of Evil and Nightmare in the forms of Blinded in Chains and Save Me. They also brought back Shepherd of Fire. An excellent choice.
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Was anyone at their show last night? They debuted Cosmic live for the first time...
https://youtu.be/nongiV9WMxw?feature=shared (https://youtu.be/nongiV9WMxw?feature=shared)
Fuck. I need to see this live.
I wish I was! Thanks for posting.
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The new setlist has some nice changes. Definitely making me want to go to the NJ show even more. It was always in my plans to go, but it's on Easter which makes it a bit more difficult for my gf. No surprise to me about Cosmic though, the band has teased it being played on this leg.
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There's one song in the setlist that makes me wish they were coming here. Coincidentally, I was listening to that song a couple days ago.
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Was anyone at their show last night? They debuted Cosmic live for the first time...
https://youtu.be/nongiV9WMxw?feature=shared (https://youtu.be/nongiV9WMxw?feature=shared)
Fuck. I need to see this live.
Thanks for posting this, just sealed the deal for the 3/21 show in CT. Really looking forward to this show now
This show must not be selling very well in CT, just got a comp offer from the venue and I haven't been there to gamble in at least a year . . . not complaining, A7X for free in a couple weeks.
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Thought they were really good last night. Much better seat than last year and sound was so much better so their set was a big improvement from last year in every way for me other than the venue being sold out and super loud. It was quite tame last night and my section was mostly empty so it didn't feel like a highly anticipated show unlike last year's MSG show. But like I said, my seat was great and they were still good so I enjoyed this probably more, at least from an Avenged Sevenfold perspective. Last year's show had better support bands. Anyway, here's some songs, my videos came out great!
Avenged Sevenfold - Game Over LIVE @ Prudential Center Newark NJ 3/31/2024 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXMtruF8Puo)
Avenged Sevenfold - Roman Sky LIVE @ Prudential Center Newark NJ 3/31/2024 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H8v4ZfiZkw)
Avenged Sevenfold - Blinded In Chains LIVE @ Prudential Center Newark NJ 3/31/2024 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7jVhw-_zz0)
Avenged Sevenfold - Cosmic LIVE @ Prudential Center Newark NJ 3/31/2024 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B27xfa1B6DU)
Also, being Easter yesterday and all those Biblical references, I was not surprised that M Shadows had some words to say. I need to find and edit that clip I have of it, but it was great. He basically ripped their booking agent for booking the show on Easter and then dedicated Hail to the King to their own JC, Johnny Christ.