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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: splent on June 27, 2010, 02:12:47 PM
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I have no idea what I'm looking at.
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I have no idea what I'm looking at.
Beiber and Cyrus I'm guessing. Thankfully, I will never hear this. Good for kiddies, not for me.
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Not just music. Civilization, culture and music included.
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I have no idea what I'm looking at.
Beiber and Cyrus I'm guessing. Thankfully, I will never hear this. Good for kiddies, not for me.
Oh. In that case:
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Growing up, I never understood why parents would want to shelter their kids.
Now I do.
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but it takes talent to write music as catchy as they do and they're amazing why can't you see it and if you say pop music is crap you're a total prog elitist wtf man
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but it takes talent to write music as catchy as they do and they're amazing why can't you see it and if you say pop music is crap you're a total prog elitist wtf man
Glad to see you understand now.
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but it takes talent to write music as catchy as they do and they're amazing why can't you see it and if you say pop music is crap you're a total prog elitist wtf man
Darkes7, you need to get you head out of your ass. Not all prog is the same and neither is pop music.
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*he's being sarcastic and mocking a lame strawman of the argument in the controversial opinions thread
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*he's being sarcastic and mocking a lame strawman of the argument in the controversial opinions thread
I know, I've read it all. In each genre there are well crafted songs not all prog is good and not all pop is bad. But it's funny seeing him stick to his guns.
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Well, I thought my point is quite obvious here (and guess what, not entirely serious) :P
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Well, I thought my point is quite obvious here (and guess what, not entirely serious) :P
Darkes7, your like the boy who cried wolf. Your opinions are so strong that your sarcasm doesn't seem like it's sarcasm.
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Without stepping too far into this whole thing....
There's good pop music out there. That, however, is NOT it.
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Without stepping too far into this whole thing....
There's good pop music out there. That, however, is NOT it.
Ding, Ding, Ding!! Thank you!
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There's good pop music out there.
Yes, there is. And it's written by Devin Townsend. It's called Addicted.
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And Paramore, Lights, and Au Revoir Simone, just to name a few.
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I love Lights <333
Also, does that picture looked shopped to anyone else? Specifically Bieber's head?
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Yeah, that looks like shameless shooping. With a touch of "dat ass".
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Also, does that picture looked shopped to anyone else? Specifically Bieber's head?
Oh man, it does :lol
Also, isn't Cyrus only like 16? What's she doing being half naked on stage and shit? I feel like I'm doing something illegal when I see pictures of her like this on the internet.
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Also, does that picture looked shopped to anyone else? Specifically Bieber's head?
Oh man, it does :lol
Also, isn't Cyrus only like 16? What's she doing being half naked on stage and shit? I feel like I'm doing something illegal when I see pictures of her like this on the internet.
Bro, you're like 16 or 17. It's illegal for ME, not you.
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I've been 18 since December of last year.
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I guess that's a real pic of Cyrus though, she's getting crap for wearing that. I seen it on the interwbez.
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I've been 18 since December of last year.
Whoa, my bad. I honestly thought you were younger than that. Maybe because of your womang stuff from earlier this year. Time flies, eh?
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I've been 18 since December of last year.
Whoa, my bad. I honestly thought you were younger than that. Maybe because of your womang stuff from earlier this year. Time flies, eh?
Oh, you really must have missed all of the pedobear jokes then. No big deal, it's all good.
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The picture in the OP is awesome. :lol
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The picture in the OP is awesome. :lol
I find it incredibly unnerving. :|
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The picture in the OP is awesome. :lol
I find it incredibly unnerving. :|
I don't, but then I'm basking in the knowledge that one day they will both be dead and forgotten forever.
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The picture in the OP is awesome. :lol
I find it incredibly unnerving. :|
I don't get why she's wearing a diaper, either.
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The picture in the OP is awesome. :lol
I find it incredibly unnerving. :|
I don't get why she's wearing a diaper, either.
Safety first.
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I see little difference between their music.
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but it takes talent to write music as catchy as they do and they're amazing why can't you see it and if you say pop music is crap you're a total prog elitist wtf man
Pop music isn't crap. There's good pop music and there's crap pop music.
Justin Beiber and Myley Cyrus = crap pop music
Lady Gaga = good pop music
Also, Gaga writes her own music. Myley and Justin do not. And they can't even sing that well. Gaga can, and so can many other pop artists that don't get HALF the notereity that those two poser artists get. Ke$ha is another example of a decent pop artist, she's not nearly as good as Gaga but at least she writes her own music as far as I know.
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I almost agreed with you until you said this... Just, no.
Ke$ha is another example of a decent pop artist.
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I almost agreed with you until you said this... Just, no.
Ke$ha is another example of a decent pop artist.
She's better than Miley Cyrus... I mean she's not Lady Gaga but she's at least better than half the crud that's out there. I define KeSha as like mediocre pop.
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I define her as bottom-of-the-barrel as bad as it can get Pop.
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I define her as bottom-of-the-barrel as bad as it can get Pop.
This is more like it.
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I see little difference between their music.
Cyrus' voice is more manly.
Justin Beiber and Myley Cyrus = crap pop music
Lady Gaga = crap pop music with a gimmick
Fixed that for you.
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Screw you guys, Lady Gaga is amazing.
JUST DANCE, GONNA BE OKAY
DA DA DO DO
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I do not know any Bieber songs.
All I know from Cyrus is "Party in the USA". Can be enjoyable inside the right contexts. But there is no denying Cyrus cannot sing for shit.
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I do not know any Bieber songs.
Good.
When Bieber's voice changes, which it's doing right now, his career is gone.
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You don't think there is any chance he could pull a Timberlake?
Obviously Timberlake's balls had already dropped when he joined N'Sync, unlike Bieber now, so the comparison may not be entirely fair.
P.S. Timberlake is another example of a good pop artist.
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P.S. Timberlake is another example of a good pop artist.
Not to mention, he's fucking hilarious.
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Ke$ha is another example of a decent pop artist.
Splent, you were doing so well until I got to this sentence....
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And Paramore, Lights, and Au Revoir Simone, just to name a few.
I don't think I would consider any of those bands pop.
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Also, I couldn't help but think of this when I saw the title:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjZkKk1qquk
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Ke$ha is another example of a decent pop artist.
Splent, you were doing so well until I got to this sentence....
To be fair, that one really popular song is catchy as heck.
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Except that she sings like an autotuned whiny lush.
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FWIW, I agree with Splent. She's fun.
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I've found modern pop to be an entirely irredeemable genre of music.
I know, I know, cool story bro.
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I've found modern pop to be an entirely irredeemable genre of music.
I know, I know, cool story bro.
Wool sweater, bro.
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I've found modern pop to be an entirely irredeemable genre of music.
I know, I know, cool story bro.
Wool sweater, bro.
Wool sweater=98 degrees. POP!
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I've found modern pop to be an entirely irredeemable genre of music.
I know, I know, cool story bro.
Wool sweater, bro.
Wool sweater=98 degrees. POP!
At least our jokes are in sync.
Haha!
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I've found modern pop to be an entirely irredeemable genre of music.
I know, I know, cool story bro.
Wool sweater, bro.
Wool sweater=98 degrees. POP!
At least our jokes are in sync.
Haha!
With jokes like that we'll be Boys to Men soon enough!
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I've learned to accept the fact that pop artists like this will come and go, usually last 3-5 years (at the most) and become really popular for a while, but are ultimately forgettable. There will always be a standout artist that MIGHT survive over time (I'm not sure, but I feel as if Lady Gaga might be one of those pop artists, not because her music is extremely standout but because she's marketably eccentric) the ultimate example of a great one, (like him or not) is Michael Jackson. It's just something that's always happened.
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Except that she sings like an autotuned whiny lush.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMkiFaVh3AU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMkiFaVh3AU)
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Except that she sings like an autotuned whiny lush.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMkiFaVh3AU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMkiFaVh3AU)
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EPIC
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Even better:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZmcDeqc81U
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Pop music isn't crap. There's good pop music and there's crap pop music.
Justin Beiber and Myley Cyrus = crap pop music
This.
Lady Gaga = good pop music
Also, Gaga writes her own music. Myley and Justin do not. And they can't even sing that well. Gaga can, and so can many other pop artists that don't get HALF the notereity that those two poser artists get. Ke$ha is another example of a decent pop artist, she's not nearly as good as Gaga but at least she writes her own music as far as I know.
LOL nevermind.
I mean Gaga, I'll try to understand but can't. Kesha? Seriously? According to Wiki, she's not even credited as a writer on half of her songs. Classic Madonna is pretty much as good as pop gets. Nearly ALL the pop out today sucks hard, except for thsoe occasional nice sounding pop rock bands, some of which I think Sigz mentioned.
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I've found modern pop to be an entirely irredeemable genre of music.
I know, I know, cool story bro.
Wool sweater, bro.
Wool sweater=98 degrees. POP!
At least our jokes are in sync.
Haha!
DIRTY POP!
-Marc.
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Also, does that picture looked shopped to anyone else? Specifically Bieber's head?
Oh man, it does :lol
Also, isn't Cyrus only like 16? What's she doing being half naked on stage and shit? I feel like I'm doing something illegal when I see pictures of her like this on the internet.
It's legal for You, not Meee. It's all about the jb you're expecting me to taaaaap!
FTFY
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Watching you sing is making me crazy.
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Watching you sing is making me crazy.
:laugh:
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Except that she sings like an autotuned whiny lush.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMkiFaVh3AU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMkiFaVh3AU)
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I was expecting this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P-MKyb_h3I
I was almost disappointed, but I have a feeling that's not real. Despite that, it was pretty funny.
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She needs to be wearing fewer clothes. (Should that be in sarcasm green? You'll never know!)
Also:
Except that she sings like an autotuned whiny lush.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMkiFaVh3AU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMkiFaVh3AU)
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EPIC
OH GOD. (I also had no idea that that song was by Miley Cyrus.)
EDIT: Oh, it's fake. Nevertheless.
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There's good pop music out there.
Yes, there is. And it's written by Devin Townsend. It's called Addicted.
:hat
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KeSha is better than Lady Gaga cause she's sexier and that's the only real factor that's used to judge a female pop star in our current times even if everybody would like to pretend that it's not.
I like KeSha, her music and style says "I enjoy my slutty life style and like to brag about it", I like the honesty in that, please don't talk to me about music, that is not remotely the issue here.
Miley Cyrus however is slightly different that those girls, it's a child star that looks like she would have a worse fate than most previous child stars have because she's in this time and predictably it will be over after a sex tape or some sort of similar scandal on the internet which leads to disappearance and alcohol/drug addiction, rehab, an unsuccessful comeback, possibly another cheesy reality show about her life struggle, disappearance again then death by drug overdose in a hotel room.
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Why isn't Miley naked here? This thread is boring.
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How is writing your own music a marker of good pop? If a song is good, it's good, and if it's bad, it's bad, not only regardless of whether the person singing it wrote it themselves, but regardless of who wrote it at all. To me, it just seems like a silly standard that people approaching pop from other genres use to try to pick out the "tr00" artists. Considering the way pop as a genre works, you just can't break it down like that.
On which note, it's a laugh that people try and argue Gaga is a better pop artist than the bunch, among other reasons, because she wrote her own music. I don't care who fucking wrote it, it's still average at best, and so is she.
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How is writing your own music a marker of good pop? If a song is good, it's good, and if it's bad, it's bad, not only regardless of whether the person singing it wrote it themselves, but regardless of who wrote it at all. To me, it just seems like a silly standard that people approaching pop from other genres use to try to pick out the "tr00" artists. Considering the way pop as a genre works, you just can't break it down like that.
On which note, it's a laugh that people try and argue Gaga is a better pop artist than the bunch, among other reasons, because she wrote her own music. I don't care who fucking wrote it, it's still average at best, and so is she.
I've fallen into this trap before, but I definitely agree with you. However, I really like Gaga's music, so yeah.
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How is writing your own music a marker of good pop? If a song is good, it's good, and if it's bad, it's bad, not only regardless of whether the person singing it wrote it themselves, but regardless of who wrote it at all. To me, it just seems like a silly standard that people approaching pop from other genres use to try to pick out the "tr00" artists. Considering the way pop as a genre works, you just can't break it down like that.
On which note, it's a laugh that people try and argue Gaga is a better pop artist than the bunch, among other reasons, because she wrote her own music. I don't care who fucking wrote it, it's still average at best, and so is she.
If we're all going by this. I hate all pop music and everyone in this thread sucks. ;)
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How is writing your own music a marker of good pop? If a song is good, it's good, and if it's bad, it's bad, not only regardless of whether the person singing it wrote it themselves, but regardless of who wrote it at all. To me, it just seems like a silly standard that people approaching pop from other genres use to try to pick out the "tr00" artists. Considering the way pop as a genre works, you just can't break it down like that.
On which note, it's a laugh that people try and argue Gaga is a better pop artist than the bunch, among other reasons, because she wrote her own music. I don't care who fucking wrote it, it's still average at best, and so is she.
I've fallen into this trap before, but I definitely agree with you. However, I really like Gaga's music, so yeah.
Fair enough. Just don't try and convince me she's great by saying "she wrote her songs all by herself, the clever little thing". Which is what a lot of people seem to do, especially in her case.
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How is writing your own music a marker of good pop? If a song is good, it's good, and if it's bad, it's bad, not only regardless of whether the person singing it wrote it themselves, but regardless of who wrote it at all. To me, it just seems like a silly standard that people approaching pop from other genres use to try to pick out the "tr00" artists. Considering the way pop as a genre works, you just can't break it down like that.
On which note, it's a laugh that people try and argue Gaga is a better pop artist than the bunch, among other reasons, because she wrote her own music. I don't care who fucking wrote it, it's still average at best, and so is she.
Good point. It's better with country music I reckon, artists re-interpret the songs their way and this can also get us into other artists. I should get the courage for checking out Kristoffer Kristofferson, Johnny Cash has covered his songs many times.
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KeSha is better than Lady Gaga cause she's sexier and that's the only real factor that's used to judge a female pop star in our current times even if everybody would like to pretend that it's not.
https://www.moejackson.com/2010-hot-or-not-kesha-rocks-a-swimsuit-bondi-beach-in-australia-0324?page=0,2
She's totally hot...
mmmmm rectangle body.
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KeSha is better than Lady Gaga cause she's sexier and that's the only real factor that's used to judge a female pop star in our current times even if everybody would like to pretend that it's not.
https://www.moejackson.com/2010-hot-or-not-kesha-rocks-a-swimsuit-bondi-beach-in-australia-0324?page=0,2
She's totally hot...
mmmmm rectangle body.
*applauds in a speed faster than :slowclap: but slower than :clap:* :coolio
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If you look carefully, you can see Miley Cyrus' Bieber.
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Also, does that picture looked shopped to anyone else? Specifically Bieber's head?
Oh man, it does :lol
Also, isn't Cyrus only like 16? What's she doing being half naked on stage and shit? I feel like I'm doing something illegal when I see pictures of her like this on the internet.
She's almost your age.
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If you look carefully, you can see Miley Cyrus' Bieber.
Is it the peach fuzz that reminds you of something, something.
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Something...
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Something...
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:rollin what?! :rollin
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Surely, you get the Chris Hansen connection here.
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Surely, you get the Chris Hansen connection here.
No!! I don't. I feel dumb! :D
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Chris Hansen was the host of the Dateline NBC show "To Catch A Predator":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Catch_a_Predator
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forgot about Timberlake. Timberlake is amazing.
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GOOD POP
- Justin Timberlake
- Lady Gaga
- Madonna
- Ace of Base
- Kelly Clarkson
- Christina Aguilera
- Pink
- Michael Jackson
- Junior Senior
- Shakira
OK POP
- Owl City
- Taylor Swift
- Spice Girls
- NSync/Backstreet Boys
- Hanson (MmmBop is awesome, you have to admit that)
- Ke$ha
- Gwen Stefani (No Doubt is very cool, her solo stuff is just meh)
- Aqua
ABSOLUTE CRAP POP
- Miley Cyrus
- Justin Bieber
- Britney Spears
- Katy Perry
- Gerardo
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Hey, if you are gonna rank Ke$ha as OK Pop, then Britney Spears is good to ok pop if you only consider her early works.
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GOOD POP
Does not compute
OK POP
Does not compute
ABSOLUTE CRAP POP
All of it
FTFM
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Hey, if you are gonna rank Ke$ha as OK Pop, then Britney Spears is good to ok pop if you only consider "Toxic."
Fix'd
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GOOD POP
- Justin Timberlake
- Lady Gaga
- Madonna
- Christina Aguilera
- Pink
- Michael Jackson
- Shakira
I agree with all of this, actually, though I'd move all but one or two of the artists you put in "OK pop" to "crap pop".
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GOOD POP
- Justin Timberlake
- Lady Gaga
- Pink
Please...
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How is writing your own music a marker of good pop? If a song is good, it's good, and if it's bad, it's bad, not only regardless of whether the person singing it wrote it themselves, but regardless of who wrote it at all.
True, but there's a pretty damn strong correlation between artists who write their own music and music that's worth listening to. There's obviously exceptions to this, Elton John being one, Kesha obviously not on the same tier. Of course, pop artists writing their own music doesn't necessarily translate to anything special. I don't see, for example, how Lady Gaga is ANY different from the rest of those faceless pops act out now (other than her putting on a face).
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GOOD POP
- Justin Timberlake
- Lady Gaga
- Madonna
- Ace of Base
- Kelly Clarkson
- Christina Aguilera
- Pink
- Michael Jackson
- Junior Senior
- Shakira
OK POP
- Owl City
- Taylor Swift
- Spice Girls
- NSync/Backstreet Boys
- Hanson (MmmBop is awesome, you have to admit that)
- Ke$ha
- Gwen Stefani (No Doubt is very cool, her solo stuff is just meh)
- Aqua
ABSOLUTE CRAP POP
- Miley Cyrus
- Justin Bieber
- Britney Spears
- Katy Perry
- Gerardo
Agreed on most counts. Cannot stand Stafani though.
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Chris Hansen was the host of the Dateline NBC show "To Catch A Predator":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Catch_a_Predator
Remember when it got really big because they caught a teacher? That teacher taught at my school. :|
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GOOD POP
- Justin Timberlake
- Lady Gaga
- Pink
Please...
So... you like Justin Bieber and Miley Cyrus, and you don't like Justin Timberlake or Pink? People who ACTUALLY CAN SING!?!?!? Please back.
People who actually have some vocal talent should be pop stars. People who have absolutely none need to go away. Seriously. Bieber is the only one with any OUNCE of vocal talent, and there are still millions of people who sing better than him. Hell, I teach kids who sing better than all of those wannabes who actually made it because people are too dense to listen to the vocals and only buy their records because they are hot.
Go listen to Stupid Girl by Pink. Because that song could totally be about Miley Cyrus and all the girls trying to be her or Britney Spears. And the video is HILARIOUS.
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How is writing your own music a marker of good pop? If a song is good, it's good, and if it's bad, it's bad, not only regardless of whether the person singing it wrote it themselves, but regardless of who wrote it at all.
True, but there's a pretty damn strong correlation between artists who write their own music and music that's worth listening to. There's obviously exceptions to this, Elton John being one, Kesha obviously not on the same tier. Of course, pop artists writing their own music doesn't necessarily translate to anything special. I don't see, for example, how Lady Gaga is ANY different from the rest of those faceless pops act out now (other than her putting on a face).
I'm confused on the Elton John remark. He wrote the songs and Bernie wrote the lyrics.
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Wow, a fight over pop stars.
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Pink is super talented and has a killer voice. I for one like that she went the harder edged sound as each album came out.
And Sigz. Gwen solo=Bad. Gwen No Doubt=Gold.
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And Sigz. Gwen solo=Bad. Gwen No Doubt=Gold.
:huh:
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And Sigz. Gwen solo=Bad. Gwen No Doubt=Gold.
:huh:
Well, not their last album. Too dance beaty(Is that a word? :D)
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GOOD POP
- Justin Timberlake
- Lady Gaga
- Pink
Please...
So... you like Justin Bieber and Miley Cyrus, and you don't like Justin Timberlake or Pink? People who ACTUALLY CAN SING!?!?!? Please back.
People who actually have some vocal talent should be pop stars. People who have absolutely none need to go away. Seriously. Bieber is the only one with any OUNCE of vocal talent, and there are still millions of people who sing better than him. Hell, I teach kids who sing better than all of those wannabes who actually made it because people are too dense to listen to the vocals and only buy their records because they are hot.
Go listen to Stupid Girl by Pink. Because that song could totally be about Miley Cyrus and all the girls trying to be her or Britney Spears. And the video is HILARIOUS.
I haven't said I like Bieber or Cyrus, quite the opposite. :P Maybe they can sing, but well... Timberlake defines the worst possible side of pop performed by, erm, men - the "wow look I'm so hot" guy with a voice sounding like he's about to fall apart, Pink sounds extremely annoying.
And well, I definitely don't like Britney Spears, and her early songs are equally terrible, but some of her later work is a different thing and two or three tiers above 90% of that list... The only one I can agree without any doubt whatsoever that it's good pop is Michael Jackson.
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No I mean why is this oriented at me? I don't think I've heard anything from No Doubt or Gwen Stefani ever :lol
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but it takes talent to write music as catchy as they do and they're amazing why can't you see it and if you say pop music is crap you're a total prog elitist wtf man
This was where I got you like Miley and Bieber, because this was your post after I posted the picture of the two.
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Surely, you get the Chris Hansen connection here.
It's sad when don't make the connection. What the hell is wrong with me today?! :laugh:
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I don't have much of an opinion of Justin Timberlake as a musician, but he's hillarious as an actor. Quite good, not amazing, but pretty good actor in my opinion. And nice body.
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but it takes talent to write music as catchy as they do and they're amazing why can't you see it and if you say pop music is crap you're a total prog elitist wtf man
This was where I got you like Miley and Bieber, because this was your post after I posted the picture of the two.
It was a joke based on the "controversial opinions" thread, where someone said pop stars are talented because they can write catchy music and I was called a prog elitist because I said 95% of modern pop is crap. :P
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No I mean why is this oriented at me? I don't think I've heard anything from No Doubt or Gwen Stefani ever :lol
Sorry Sigz are correct. It should have been aimed at TheOutlawXanadu! Sorry. See! What the hell is wrong with me today. Time to grab a beer! :laugh:
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Gwen solo=Bad. Gwen No Doubt=Gold.
This is true.
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GOOD POP
Does not compute
OK POP
Does not compute
ABSOLUTE CRAP POP
All of it
FTFM
It has actually been scientifically proven that most of Michael Jackson's songs from Thriller onward are awesome.
On another note;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvmIzxO0-n4
Edit: [Chris Hanson]
Fun fact, you only have to be 16 in Canada.
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On another note;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvmIzxO0-n4
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
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On another note;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvmIzxO0-n4
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
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How is writing your own music a marker of good pop? If a song is good, it's good, and if it's bad, it's bad, not only regardless of whether the person singing it wrote it themselves, but regardless of who wrote it at all.
True, but there's a pretty damn strong correlation between artists who write their own music and music that's worth listening to. There's obviously exceptions to this, Elton John being one, Kesha obviously not on the same tier. Of course, pop artists writing their own music doesn't necessarily translate to anything special. I don't see, for example, how Lady Gaga is ANY different from the rest of those faceless pops act out now (other than her putting on a face).
I'm confused on the Elton John remark. He wrote the songs and Bernie wrote the lyrics.
To clarify, I didn't meant that Elton John was just a face, as many current popstars are, I just meant that the notion of pop music and pop stars as more than one person and an entire package rather than just limited to a single name wasn't necessary a bad one.
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Got ya! :tup
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Lindsay Lohan is the best them. Why can't people just respect her privacy?
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I don't get why anyone would think Kesha is good pop, she's scraping the bottom of the barrel of shit. She's easily the best example of horrible music today.
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It has actually been scientifically proven that most of Michael Jackson's songs from Thriller onward are awesome.
Off the Wall is fantastic. Don't forget that one.
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I haven't said I like Bieber or Cyrus, quite the opposite. :P Maybe they can sing, but well... Timberlake defines the worst possible side of pop performed by, erm, men - the "wow look I'm so hot" guy with a voice sounding like he's about to fall apart, Pink sounds extremely annoying.
And well, I definitely don't like Britney Spears, and her early songs are equally terrible, but some of her later work is a different thing and two or three tiers above 90% of that list... The only one I can agree without any doubt whatsoever that it's good pop is Michael Jackson.
Justin Timberlake's vocal style often directly reminds me of Michael Jackson's, but ok.
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I don't get Michael Jackson. There's just some instances where, no matter how hard I try or should, I can't remove the art from my feelings about the artist.
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I've never had that problem.
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It has actually been scientifically proven that most of Michael Jackson's songs from Thriller onward are awesome.
Off the Wall is fantastic. Don't forget that one.
Off the Wall is good, but I personally find it harder to get into than the albums that followed it (except for 'Don't Stop 'Till You Get Enough', which is awesome).
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I always thought that picture was shooped...
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GOOD POP
Does not compute
OK POP
Does not compute
ABSOLUTE CRAP POP
All of it
FTFM
Yeah, this, though I don't consider artists like Michael Jackson to be pop anymore.
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I've always felt that with pop, the key to being good is to not take itself too seriously. It's like those candies that look like little bananas. Those things taste like shit, because it's candy masquerading as a banana, which is real food. Candy should embrace its candiness and be the best damn candy it can be, like a Warhead.
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I've always felt that with pop, the key to being good is to not take itself too seriously. It's like those candies that look like little bananas. Those things taste like shit, because it's candy masquerading as a banana, which is real food. Candy should embrace its candiness and be the best damn candy it can be, like a Warhead.
Good analogy :lol
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I've always felt that with pop, the key to being good is to not take itself too seriously. It's like those candies that look like little bananas. Those things taste like shit, because it's candy masquerading as a banana, which is real food. Candy should embrace its candiness and be the best damn candy it can be, like a Warhead.
(https://www.grubgrade.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/27857warheads.jpg)
Seriously, the best candies ever.
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GOOD POP
Does not compute
OK POP
Does not compute
ABSOLUTE CRAP POP
All of it
FTFM
Yeah, this, though I don't consider artists like Michael Jackson to be pop anymore.
??? He is called the "King of Pop". How is he not pop?
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He's Classic Pop
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OK, and that is still pop AFAIK. :P
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Timberlake defines the worst possible side of pop performed by, erm, men - the "wow look I'm so hot" guy with a voice sounding like he's about to fall apart
Justin Timberlake has to be the best male example of good pop.
Also good pop (IMHO): John Mayer and Jason Mraz.
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Also good pop (IMHO): John Mayer and Jason Mraz.
Absolutely, yes.
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Timberlake defines the worst possible side of pop performed by, erm, men - the "wow look I'm so hot" guy with a voice sounding like he's about to fall apart
Justin Timberlake has to be the best male example of good pop.
Also good pop (IMHO): John Mayer and Jason Mraz.
You're right. His older stuff was pretty good though, I was liking that stuff long before I found BETTER music.
Sorry I had to say that :lol
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Justin Timberlake is one of the few pop artists I can actually enjoy.
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GOOD POP
Does not compute
OK POP
Does not compute
ABSOLUTE CRAP POP
All of it
FTFM
Yeah, this, though I don't consider artists like Michael Jackson to be pop anymore.
??? He is called the "King of Pop". How is he not pop?
I consider pop to be whatever plays on top-40 stations on the radio. I've never heard a Michael Jackson song on a top-40 station.
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No idea about any top whatever lists, but I've heard Michael Jackson many times in the radio, and not necessarily in the past year. (And I'm talking about a 100% mainstream radio)
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I can't stand Ke$ha, but I love Lady Gaga. (especially once I figured out where she got her stage name from)
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(especially once I figured out where she got her stage name from)
Care to enlighten me?
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I think it was from a Queen song called Radio Gaga.
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Fusari helped create the moniker Gaga, after the Queen song "Radio Ga Ga". Germanotta was in the process of trying to come up with a stage name when she received a text message from Fusari that read "Lady Gaga."[22] He explained,
"Every day, when Stef came to the studio, instead of saying hello, I would start singing 'Radio Ga Ga'. That was her entrance song. [Lady Gaga] was actually a glitch; I typed 'Radio Ga Ga' in a text and it did an autocorrect so somehow 'Radio' got changed to 'Lady'. She texted me back, "That's it." After that day, she was Lady Gaga. She’s like, "Don’t ever call me Stefani again."[22]
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Lady Gaga: because naming yourself after a Queen song makes your music sound better.
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GOOD POP
Does not compute
OK POP
Does not compute
ABSOLUTE CRAP POP
All of it
FTFM
Yeah, this, though I don't consider artists like Michael Jackson to be pop anymore.
??? He is called the "King of Pop". How is he not pop?
I consider pop to be whatever plays on top-40 stations on the radio. I've never heard a Michael Jackson song on a top-40 station.
How old are you 5? :laugh: Man how the times have changed.
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Lady Gaga: because naming yourself after a Queen song makes your music sound better.
Ke$ha: because using symbols as letters in naming yourself makes your music unlistenable.
(A friend of mine calls her Kay-Eee-Money-Ha... I also like Key-Dollar-Ha... it's about as bad as naming your child "Le-a"...)
-Marc.
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GOOD POP
Does not compute
OK POP
Does not compute
ABSOLUTE CRAP POP
All of it
FTFM
Yeah, this, though I don't consider artists like Michael Jackson to be pop anymore.
??? He is called the "King of Pop". How is he not pop?
I consider pop to be whatever plays on top-40 stations on the radio. I've never heard a Michael Jackson song on a top-40 station.
Yeah, maybe not NOW, but back in the day, heck yes.
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Lady Gaga: because naming yourself after a Queen song makes your music sound better.
:facepalm: Come on now, that's not what I meant and you know it.
I decided I liked her music way before I found that out.
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That was laced with sarcasm.
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I know. :P If I thought you were serious I wouldn't have :facepalm:'d
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:lol There was blatantly a :facepalm: in your post.
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:lol I know, because I knew Fluffy was being sarcastic. Like I said, if I thought he was really serious about Lady Gaga's music being enhanced by her name coming from a Queen song, I would have been confused, not :facepalm:.
What we have here is a failure to communicate.
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And a failure for me to see:
I know. :P If I thought you were serious I wouldn't have :facepalm:'d
:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
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Right... and I didn't think he was serious, so i DID :facepalm:
Why is this so hard for you to understand?
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No I completely understand now... I just misread your post the first time.
1000th post, btw. :D
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CONGRATS BRO!
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Lady Gaga: because naming yourself after a Queen song makes your music sound better.
Though I know SeaWolf didn't mean it that way, people have actually made that argument to me before. The combination of that and "She's a Juilliard trained musician, so she's automatically good" piss me off. Neither of those things are reflected in the music she has released to the public, so it's irrelevant.
If someone simply enjoys her music, then whatever. It's when people make her out to be more than just another pop star that I get annoyed.
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To me, she isn't "just another pop star", she's a particularly interesting and talented pop star.
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CONGRATS BRO!
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To me, she isn't "just another pop star", she's a particularly interesting and talented pop star.
Damn right! I love me some Gaga. :heart
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Lady Gaga: because naming yourself after a Queen song makes your music sound better.
Though I know SeaWolf didn't mean it that way, people have actually made that argument to me before. The combination of that and "She's a Juilliard trained musician, so she's automatically good" piss me off. Neither of those things are reflected in the music she has released to the public, so it's irrelevant.
If someone simply enjoys her music, then whatever. It's when people make her out to be more than just another pop star that I get annoyed.
While I was being sarcastic towards SeaWolf, you're actually spot on, and I was kind of referring to this.
Lady Gaga seems to be a pop artist of that uber-popular, uber-undressing-herself kind that a lot of people who wouldn't normally listen to that kind of pop artist have found themselves liking, and her name, her music education, and her having written her songs are the three things they most often seem to use to try to justify the anomaly. All of which, however, seem to have made no difference on her music, which is just run-of-the-mill pop.
I mean, think of that video that people were throwing around a while back with her doing two songs on solo piano. A lot of people used it as further "see? She IS a real artist" evidence, which I thought was ironic, cos stripped down so much, it was even more obvious her songwriting was average as hell. Had that video been played to most people before she was a thing, they'd probably have just said, "well, she'll probably never go big, but good for her".
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I don't really have any deeper reason or justification for liking her, it's just that her songs are catchy without being cheesy, so I like them. It really is that simple.
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I don't really have any deeper reason or justification for liking her, it's just that her songs are catchy without being cheesy, so I like them. It really is that simple.
See, and that's fine.
What we're talking about it people making her out to be this super important cultural icon, or one of the most important artists of our time. Because she's not. She's not doing anything new or innovative. If you like her songs, that's fine, but some people can't just leave it at that.