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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: TheVoxyn on June 23, 2010, 05:14:12 PM
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Somehow I am losing my big love for prog-metal. I used to listen to nothing else, but it has become increasingly stale for me. I rarely listen to Dream Theater anymore and most other prog-metal bands that I used to love are getting less and less listens. I like it when it comes through on shuffle, but I never have the urge to listen to a whole album of say Ayreon, Dream Theater or Kamelot (not really prog metal but whatever). I still love Pain of Salvation and Porcupine Tree but I think that is also fading a bit. I still believe that PoS is my favorite band/artist, but not as much as it used to be.
Anyone else experiencing the same thing? I guess it's kinda natural to change tastes, but a few months ago I wouldn't have thought that I would ever get bored of DT or Kamelot.
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I'm definitely moving out of my metal interests and becoming more interested in more experimental/classical/post-prog kinds of bands. I barely listen to DT/Opeth/Ayreon/etc anymore and instead focus almost all my music listening time on bands like PT/Anathema and more classical prog acts like Yes/Genesis/Floyd/Queen, as well as some post-rock and even techno.
So yea, I hear ya.
EDIT: It is also very cyclical, so I know that within a year's time, I'm going to be in a massive DT phase, or a POS phase, etc. Right now I'm in the part of the cycle that wants experimental and atmospherical stuff.
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There is an entire world of great music outside of rock. Go discover it.
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There is an entire world of great music outside of rock. Go discover it.
I haven't really strayed outside rock yet. But definitely listening to some sub-genres I wouldn't have listened to a while ago.
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There is an entire world of great music outside of rock. Go discover it.
Great post.
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There is an entire world of great music outside of rock. Go discover it.
This. Hip hop, electronica, or whatever... there's something amazing to be found in every genre of music.
I've lost my love for prog as well. I mean, I still like it, but there's so much better
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I moved away from most prog metal several years ago. When I first got into DT, all I wanted was more prog metal, but eventually I realized that most of it is pretty terrible, outside of a few bands that were influencing all the others.
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I have explored a bit out of prog in the recent years (particularly gothic/doom metal has kind of interested me), but it's more in the way of broadening my tastes rather than "moving on". I still feel progressive metal is in the centre of everything I love in music, and it's the kind of music that I can incredibly enjoy listening to no matter what kind of current "phase" I'm in. I haven't listened to DT or other "classic" progressive metal seriously for a while now, but it's just a kind of break rather than a serious change, I can see myself returning to it soon. It's just a kind of music that never fails to impress me and that I can't get tired of, unlike some others.
And I know I'm risking getting flamed here, but I don't like the whole kind of "listening to anything but rock makes you awesome" attitude. I definitely see the point of discovering different kinds of music (I couldn't live without doing this), but this just feels like boasting how open-minded you are because you listen to everything...
editI moved away from most prog metal several years ago. When I first got into DT, all I wanted was more prog metal, but eventually I realized that most of it is pretty terrible, outside of a few bands that were influencing all the others.
I've heard this countless times and I still don't get it. How is it terrible, or how is it any more terrible than "not too original" bands in any other genre? It takes a lot of skill to play any kind of progressive metal even if it's on the borderline of being a DT cover band, not to mention the amount of skill and creativity needed to play it well. There are lots of interesting and unusual bands in the genre, and you really don't need to look that hard to find them.
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I sort of had your experience a few months ago. Then I discovered IDM and ambient music.
:chill
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And I know I'm risking getting flamed here, but I don't like the whole kind of "listening to anything but rock makes you awesome" attitude. I definitely see the point of discovering different kinds of music (I couldn't live without doing this), but this just feels like boasting how open-minded you are because you listen to everything...
Who does this? :huh:
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*cough*briang*cough*
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I moved away from most prog metal several years ago. When I first got into DT, all I wanted was more prog metal, but eventually I realized that most of it is pretty terrible, outside of a few bands that were influencing all the others.
That's pretty much the case with every music genre. :lol
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I moved away from most prog metal several years ago. When I first got into DT, all I wanted was more prog metal, but eventually I realized that most of it is pretty terrible, outside of a few bands that were influencing all the others.
That's pretty much the case with every music genre. :lol
Mostly so with Prog Metal though.
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I moved away from most prog metal several years ago. When I first got into DT, all I wanted was more prog metal, but eventually I realized that most of it is pretty terrible, outside of a few bands that were influencing all the others.
That's pretty much the case with every music genre. :lol
Mostly so with Prog Metal though.
I agree with this, if only because prog metal is so easy to fuck up. Too many bands seem to think "let's get high, go through a history or philosophy book, write down the first shit that comes to mind for lyrics to be deep and throw in an annoying wanky guitar/keyboard duel, then make the songs two or three times as long as they need to be" is the formula for success.
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I moved away from most prog metal several years ago. When I first got into DT, all I wanted was more prog metal, but eventually I realized that most of it is pretty terrible, outside of a few bands that were influencing all the others.
That's pretty much the case with every music genre. :lol
Mostly so with Prog Metal though.
I agree with this, if only because prog metal is so easy to fuck up. Too many bands seem to think "let's get high, go through a history or philosophy book, write down the first shit that comes to mind for lyrics to be deep and throw in an annoying wanky guitar/keyboard duel, then make the songs two or three times as long as they need to be" is the formula for success.
:lol Yea, the more I think of it, the only 2 bands that I actually listen to from the Prog Metal genre are DT and PoS. All other I mostly don't like, or can only find a couple of songs I like.
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I'm not listening to much prog-metal at the moment, and haven't for quite a while now. I don't like it any less than I did, I still love the bands I loved. I'm just not finding anything new in the way of prog metal I like anymore.
But I was never exactly a prog-metal fanatic. DT, Tool, LTE, Opeth... Dillinger Escape Plan? That's about the extent of my taste in the genre. I'm constantly spinning new music (as in, stuff I'm just discovering, not stuff just released), and those five bands only release new material so often.
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:lol Yea, the more I think of it, the only 2 bands that I actually listen to from the Prog Metal genre are DT and PoS. All other I mostly don't like, or can only find a couple of songs I like.
You don't like Tool??
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I'm not listening to much prog-metal at the moment, and haven't for quite a while now. I don't like it any less than I did, I still love the bands I loved. I'm just not finding anything new in the way of prog metal I like anymore.
But I was never exactly a prog-metal fanatic. DT, Tool, LTE, Opeth... Dillinger Escape Plan? That's about the extent of my taste in the genre. I'm constantly spinning new music (as in, stuff I'm just discovering, not stuff just released), and those five bands only release new material so often.
I wouldn't call Tool or LTE Prog Metal.
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I've never pigeonholed myself to liking mainly one genre or subgenre of music, so I rarely ever get to the point with one band or genre where I want to stop listening to them or completely lose interest.
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:lol Yea, the more I think of it, the only 2 bands that I actually listen to from the Prog Metal genre are DT and PoS. All other I mostly don't like, or can only find a couple of songs I like.
You don't like Tool??
No, I love Tool. There aren't Prog Metal though.
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What would you call them besides amazing?
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:lol Yea, the more I think of it, the only 2 bands that I actually listen to from the Prog Metal genre are DT and PoS. All other I mostly don't like, or can only find a couple of songs I like.
You don't like Tool??
No, I love Tool. There aren't Prog Metal though.
What would you classify them as then? I've asked myself this before and prog metal always seems to be the best answer.
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Well, I pretty much never listen to DT much anymore (unless they come up on shuffle), and I dont listen to prog at all for the most part anymore, though I was into it. My tastes have broadened and expanded now, so I'm always looking for new stuff that I may not have listened to before (genre-wise)
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Same here dude. I hardly ever listen to prog at all anymore, I honestly haven't been in the mood for the long songs, the complex stuff, I'm more into shorter, more concise songs. Actually I haven't even been into metal in general lately, I've been listening to alot of ska, jazz, and other laid back stuff.
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:lol Yea, the more I think of it, the only 2 bands that I actually listen to from the Prog Metal genre are DT and PoS. All other I mostly don't like, or can only find a couple of songs I like.
You don't like Tool??
No, I love Tool. There aren't Prog Metal though.
What would you classify them as then? I've asked myself this before and prog metal always seems to be the best answer.
I would call Tool just Progressive. Not prog metal or rock, or alternative. But "Progressive" in the truest sense.
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What would you classify them as then? I've asked myself this before and prog metal always seems to be the best answer.
Music.
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What would you classify them as then? I've asked myself this before and prog metal always seems to be the best answer.
Music.
Nice ninja edit. :lol
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Well I thought about it, and that's the only thing I can really put them as.
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Well I thought about it, and that's the only thing I can really put them as.
Well I think that they obviously have a fair amount of progressive elements in their music (most notably on Lateralus). They also obviously are heavy, and I can kind of see where you get the alternative rock idea from...... I don't know, I guess it really is hard to classify them.
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I would never say they are metal. I just don't see them as a metal band. Metal for me incorporates more than just heaviness, it has to have the air of being, well, metal :metal. Tool doesn't have that.
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If Tool weren't a prog-metal band at the beginning, I think they've certainly become one.
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Is Tool the new Kevin Moore?
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I would never say they are metal. I just don't see them as a metal band. Metal for me incorporates more than just heaviness, it has to have the air of being, well, metal :metal. Tool doesn't have that.
What exactly does that mean? If Tool doesn't count as metal, then a lot of other bands don't as well...
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Is Tool the new Kevin Moore?
I probably have not been around long enough to know what this means...
EDIT: I understand now. Figured it out.
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My listens for Dream Theater have gone down but they will re-bound once they release a new album. I'm currently busy listening to everything metalcore-related.
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I would never say they are metal. I just don't see them as a metal band. Metal for me incorporates more than just heaviness, it has to have the air of being, well, metal :metal. Tool doesn't have that.
What exactly does that mean? If Tool doesn't count as metal, then a lot of other bands don't as well...
Bands like Metallica, Megadeth, etc. just have a presence of Metal. DT and other Prog Metal bands have that same presence, but with prog thrown in. Tool doesn't have that. They just don't. They deff have Progressive elements though, so I'd probably agree with calling them just "Progressive"
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I would never say they are metal. I just don't see them as a metal band. Metal for me incorporates more than just heaviness, it has to have the air of being, well, metal :metal. Tool doesn't have that.
What exactly does that mean? If Tool doesn't count as metal, then a lot of other bands don't as well...
Tool is too deep and pretentious to be metal.
:neverusethis:
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I would never say they are metal. I just don't see them as a metal band. Metal for me incorporates more than just heaviness, it has to have the air of being, well, metal :metal. Tool doesn't have that.
What exactly does that mean? If Tool doesn't count as metal, then a lot of other bands don't as well...
Bands like Metallica, Megadeth, etc. just have a presence of Metal. DT and other Prog Metal bands have that same presence, but with prog thrown in. Tool doesn't have that. They just don't. They deff have Progressive elements though, so I'd probably agree with calling them just "Progressive"
Hahah, I guess I'm okay with that. As long as they aren't "alternative rock".
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Yeah Voxyn, you're probably cycling through a music phase.
Right now I've been on a hard rock phase. Thrice, Alter Bridge, etc.
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DT is probably the only all-out prog metal I listen to regularly.
I would never call Opeth or Devin Townsend prog metal; both are metal with progressive tendencies (yes, there is a difference).
As for PT, they are not metal at all, despite having the occasional metal moments, so they don't count.
I guess some would call Queensryche prog metal, but even that is a bit of a stretch.
So, yeah, DT is it.
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That was exactly the same situation for me about a year ago. I use to exclusively listen to Prog Metal/Rock, thinking that it is surely the best genre of music and it satisfied all my listening needs. Then for a month or so, I decided to put my pretensions to the side, and actually give other genres an honest go. And I loved them. Hip-hop, Electronic, Indie, Black Metal...there is a plethora of creative, original and ground-breaking artists in all these genres. To be honest, I no longer really care about what other people listen to...if they want to listen to one genre, that's fine. Just do what makes you happy. But if you have always had a little feeling in the back of your head that you want to truly experience the breath of humans creative contribution to music, then you will have to sift through a lot of junk, through a lot of genres...but my god is it worth it.
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I don't like most prog-metal either. More often than not it just serves as a platform to display technicality without songwriting.
rumborak
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There are very few prog metal bands I listen to anymore and virtually no prog rock; my interest has just severly dropped over the last two years or so -interestingly, since about the time I joined the board.
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After awhile you start to realize that outside of a very select few bands prog metal is a shallow genre. Like rumborak said, it's pretty much a genre of all show and no substance.
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Yeah, when I was first really getting into DT, prog/prog metal was all I'd listen to for like a year. Those listening habits have expanded greatly beyond those (in terms of rock genres anyway, I guess), but I'm still a proghead for listening to bands like Devin (some of his material, anyway), Coheed, Muse, PT, and Rush more and more, while bands like DT and Yes, while I still love them, have been getting less listens than in the past.
Not to mention that LOTS of prog metal is pretty bad.
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I'm interested to know what prog metal bands all of you think are bad. I'm not trying to sound like a smartass, I'm actually curious. I don't listen to much prog metal outside of the "big names" of the genre (DT, Opeth, PoS, Queensryche, Symphony X, etc). Provide me with a youtube link or two that exemplifies this all-show-no-substance shitty prog metal you're all raving about.
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Vanden Plas
Shadow Gallery
Royal Hunt
Listen to any or all of those bands for some REALLY BAD prog metal.
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I wouldn't say its always "all show no substance," just for me a lot of the time it seems generic, which is what rock music, especially prog, SHOULDN'T be. Circus Maximus and Symphony X are the too biggest offenders on my list. At times, PoS fits in that category, IMO.
EDIT: and the ones Kev just ninja posted.
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Vanden Plas
Shadow Gallery
Royal Hunt
Listen to any or all of those bands for some REALLY BAD prog metal.
Ahh, I've seen several people on this board give Nick tons of shit for liking Vanden Plas. I'll check them out :D
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Circus Maximus and Pagans Mind come to mind right away as well. I'd also consider Symphony X to encompass everything that's terrible about prog metal despite having some undeniably talented guitar work.
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Ah, Pagan's Mind is another terrible one...forgot about them (which is probably a good thing :lol).
When I think of cheesy prog metal, I think of:
-Cheesy and very synthy-sounding keyboard leads and solos
-Horrible drum sound, usually very thin-sounding, and plenty of double bass drumming (Ayreon's THE is a really bad offender in this regard)
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Horrible lyrics is another one.
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Vanden Plas
I discovered Christ 0 a few months ago, and it's great. I haven't heard much of their other stuff yet, though.
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Horrible lyrics is another one.
There almost seems to be a competition going on in that regard. And DT is right in the midst of it.
rumborak
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The whole "Prog" is quite vague anyway.
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Its the same for me, my interest in progressive music has kinda faded with time.
Still, i don't have a problem listening to Porcupine Tree, Anathema or Opeth (which all should be considered progressive to some extent), but like with Dream Theater, there is no urge for me to play it.
Sure as you said, i enjoy it if it comes up in my Spotify shuffle, but apart from it i've lost interest.
But music-taste kinda comes and goes, i feel i'm making the best of it by listening to a lot of other stuff instead, and in the end there's nothing i love more then PT and their way of infusing several music-genres into one.
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After awhile you start to realize that outside of a very select few bands prog metal is a shallow genre. Like rumborak said, it's pretty much a genre of all show and no substance.
It's this, but there's also such a tryhard seriousness to all the music which makes it even worse. Like if I found out it was one big inside joke I would probably be able to enjoy it more.
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I agree with this, if only because prog metal is so easy to fuck up. Too many bands seem to think "let's get high, go through a history or philosophy book, write down the first shit that comes to mind for lyrics to be deep and throw in an annoying wanky guitar/keyboard duel, then make the songs two or three times as long as they need to be" is the formula for success.
I don't like most prog-metal either. More often than not it just serves as a platform to display technicality without songwriting.
rumborak
If you honestly believe in this, then you've heard very, very little progressive metal. This is worse than the "metal is the genre where you play loud and scream a lot" stereotype.
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One thing I somehow missed...
DT is probably the only all-out prog metal I listen to regularly.
I would never call Opeth or Devin Townsend prog metal; both are metal with progressive tendencies (yes, there is a difference).
As for PT, they are not metal at all, despite having the occasional metal moments, so they don't count.
I guess some would call Queensryche prog metal, but even that is a bit of a stretch.
So, yeah, DT is it.
The kind of reasoning I've heard many times already as well. "Progressive metal is uncreative and uninteresting because all bands sound the same and all are just technical show-off. ...no, this band is not progressive metal, because they don't sound like all of the same progressive metal bands and are not a technical show-off. A band can only be progressive metal if it sounds like all of the same progressive metal bands!" Interesting thinking, the perpetuum mobile kind. If you're going the above way - indeed, progressive metal is the most boring and uninteresting genre ever. ::)
Progressive metal doesn't have to sound like the first bands considered progressive metal, progressive metal means... gasp... music which is both progressive and metal. Opeth definitely counts in every possible way. Haven't heard that much from Devin Townsend but what I've heard also makes me feel it counts. There are lots of other examples of bands who sound really unique and can be considered progressive metal. But that doesn't exactly suit the "I'm so open-minded, I listen to anything but progressive metal on a progressive metal-related board" style, right?
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Devin Townsend is not a Prog Metal act in the same way that PT is not a Prog Rock act. Both take a core genre (In Devin's case, metal; in PT's, rock) and expand on it by adding other influences and genres. In both cases, prog happens to be a prominent influence, and the fan bases are similar, but that does not make them Prog Metal and Prog Rock.
I'm not so sure I'd jump to agreeing that Opeth isn't Prog Metal, but they are also similar in that they are a metal band first, although they definitely have more Prog tendencies than PT and Devin.
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Porcupine Tree is definitely progressive rock. It's bands that make the genre, not genre that makes the bands. And there's no stronger modern symbol of progressive rock than Porcupine Tree. Same goes for other bands.
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Porcupine Tree is definitely progressive rock. It's bands that make the genre, not genre that makes the bands. And there's no stronger modern symbol of progressive rock than Porcupine Tree. Same goes for other bands.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-vE5PjyreE
Prog Rock at it's finest.
EDIT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUR4-KWWl84
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eDv7GMEXYU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvUBLp2Uy8o
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This is like giving I Walk Beside You as a pure example of progressive metal. :P [in fact, this is even weirder]
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This discussion is awesome because it's the same as the one about Tool.
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This is like giving I Walk Beside You as a pure example of progressive metal. :P [in fact, this is even weirder]
OK I put more examples ranging through more of their catalog. Their not Prog Rock.
Prog Rock:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I2gmT3rarY
Not Prog Rock:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBYMWgm1UsY
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OtSoL is a very inaccurate sample of PT's discography.
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Funny considering OTSOL is a space-rock album, you could've just as well posted a Lily Allen-song saying "not prog-rock". >.>
Also, Linton Samuel Dawson > The Sound of Muzak.
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Zantera I love you :rollin
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Zantera I love you :rollin
:heart
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Vanden Plas
Shadow Gallery
The God Thing and Carved in Stone beg to differ.
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I'm gonna go against the current a bit here, and say that I've had prog in my life too long to properly stay away for good. Or to want to. It's my home genre. Sure, there's a few things I don't like about it as much as I used to, but however much gallivanting I do - and it's an increasing amount - I'm always gonna come back. Fucking love Dream Theater.
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Porcupine Tree is progressive in the same way that Radiohead is progressive: when you look at the progression of both bands' careers, it is obvious that both are extremely progressive. But neither are "prog" in the symphonic prog sense, ala Yes, Spock's Beard, etc. Not trying to start another prog vs. progressive debate here...just offering some perspective. :)
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I'm gonna go against the current a bit here, and say that I've had prog in my life too long to properly stay away for good. Or to want to. It's my home genre. Sure, there's a few things I don't like about it as much as I used to, but however much gallivanting I do - and it's an increasing amount - I'm always gonna come back. Fucking love Dream Theater.
I quite progressive/prog/whatever elements in all music. I've heard some in some Christian worship music (not DT-like but it wasn't your standard fare rock either) and I loved it. I kind of agree with this reply because it's what I walways want to return to...it always has a huge story to tell me with the music.
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I quite progressive/prog/whatever elements in all music.
Accidentally?
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Progressive rock in the '70s isn't the same thing like progressive rock now, like with almost every genre. Porcupine Tree is one of the main, if not the main band that define modern progressive rock.
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I quite progressive/prog/whatever elements in all music.
Accidentally?
No, on purposeful, like rob.
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Please don't do what a lot of people seem to do, which is to go too far the other way. I've spoken to so many people who seem to think along the lines of "I liked it when I was 18, now I'm 19, I can't possibly like it anymore because that would be immature". Which is moronic. Surely growing up is expanding our tastes, not simply shifting them.
Music can be good in all genres. If you're expanding your tastes to include other styles then that is a great great thing, but be sure to remember why you've loved prog metal so much. :)
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There is such thing as falling out of love with music, though. Trying to listen to Dream Theater nowadays doesn't generate nearly a fraction of the excitement for me as it used to. You're right, calling it immature is a little unfair but if something isn't satisfying anymore it just isn't satisfying, plain and simple.
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Devin Townsend is not a Prog Metal act in the same way that PT is not a Prog Rock act. Both take a core genre (In Devin's case, metal; in PT's, rock) and expand on it by adding other influences and genres. In both cases, prog happens to be a prominent influence, and the fan bases are similar, but that does not make them Prog Metal and Prog Rock.
Why not? Isn't being a progressive band all about experimenting? Perhaps trying something new by trying out a lot of different influences and genres within the rock/metal/whatever you already play?
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There is such thing as falling out of love with music, though. Trying to listen to Dream Theater nowadays doesn't generate nearly a fraction of the excitement for me as it used to. You're right, calling it immature is a little unfair but if something isn't satisfying anymore it just isn't satisfying, plain and simple.
For sure, tastes change and obviously there's nothing wrong with that. But sometimes you get people who like to give the impression that because they liked something and now they don't, they are somehow enlightened. Which is a bit of a pet peeve of mine, because I'd never for one second imply that my tastes are any better or more valid than anyone else's. That was all I was getting at really.
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In my experience, although the term is used a lot in this sense, "maturity" has very little to do with it. If anything, people who say they've "grown out" of an entire genre, band, etc. probably just associate that music with a time in their life when they themselves were less mature.
The bottom line is, at least for me, the REALLY good music doesn't ever get stale, regardless of genre. I may tire of listening to it for awhile, but I still appreciate its awesomeness. For example, when I first discovered DT, I devoured every song of theirs I could get my hands on, and liked practically all of them to a degree. Nowadays, a fair portion of their work does not interest me, but it's not because I was immature for enjoying it previously. Their best music simply withstood the test of time while some of the lesser stuff did not.
As for the genre thing, I enjoy a pretty wide variety of different music, and I could not say that one genre is more consistent than another. Every genre has its share of garbage. With progressive rock it is a bit different, only because the genre is so poorly defined, and it often falls victim to things like extreme self-indulgence and pretension, which we as prog fans don't mind if done with a bit of subtlety and taste, but it's a very fine line. Where the fuck are rob and his masterful command of English to word this eloquently for me?
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Very good post, j.
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I agree with Ariich and j. I don't see it as 'maturing' but more as changing personal tastes a bit.
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Good man.
Interestingly for me, obviously there are bands and artists I liked when I was younger and then went off a bit, but more recently I've found myself drifting back towards a lot of them again. I think I'm at a point where my tastes are incredibly open at the moment, and so I'm remembering what it was I liked about them when I was younger and am still able to enjoy it now.
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Everything loses it's edge after so many listens. I mean, I played Dream Theater over 6000 times in a year. I went pretty hardcore for them for awhile. Now I still enjoy them, but its not something I get that excited about. The last time I listened to Dream Theater as what I would consider a "hardcore fan" was probably around when I saw them in concert (luckily, I was still in "huge fan" mode and that concert was one of the best I've ever been to :hat). Right now I'm obsessing over Porcupine Tree... I'm sure it will be the same thing in about half a year or so.
I wouldn't really call myself a prog head anyways, because even though I absolutely LOVE 99% of the prog I've heard, I don't really listen to that many bands that fall in the genre... and even then a majority of them are 70s bands, which ties in with my love for classic rock.
The songs I loved 10 years ago and the songs I love now will always stay with me. I may not listen to Dream Theater with the same intensity I did when I heard them for the first time almost two years ago, but the memories the music gave me won't go away. I'm always gonna have a soft spot for Dream Theater, because their music (as well as the music of Elton John, Fleetwood Mac, and Rush) helped me get through some of the hardest times of my life thus far. And I like to think that's what music is to me. Its not just a bunch of notes. It becomes something.... personal.
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Good man.
Interestingly for me, obviously there are bands and artists I liked when I was younger and then went off a bit, but more recently I've found myself drifting back towards a lot of them again. I think I'm at a point where my tastes are incredibly open at the moment, and so I'm remembering what it was I liked about them when I was younger and am still able to enjoy it now.
This X infinity. ariich, a perfect way to say it.
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There is such thing as falling out of love with music, though. Trying to listen to Dream Theater nowadays doesn't generate nearly a fraction of the excitement for me as it used to. You're right, calling it immature is a little unfair but if something isn't satisfying anymore it just isn't satisfying, plain and simple.
For sure, tastes change and obviously there's nothing wrong with that. But sometimes you get people who like to give the impression that because they liked something and now they don't, they are somehow enlightened. Which is a bit of a pet peeve of mine, because I'd never for one second imply that my tastes are any better or more valid than anyone else's. That was all I was getting at really.
This.
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Interestingly for me, obviously there are bands and artists I liked when I was younger and then went off a bit, but more recently I've found myself drifting back towards a lot of them again. I think I'm at a point where my tastes are incredibly open at the moment, and so I'm remembering what it was I liked about them when I was younger and am still able to enjoy it now.
Best example of this for me at the moment is Slipknot. They were my favourite band at the start of high school, then for years, they became something I wouldn't touch, but I've found myself loving a lot of their music again, if not all of it.
And as a really young kid, I loved Abba, and for the last few years, I've had a lukewarm wish to go out and get a Best Of of theirs. Still yet to act upon it though, it seems Abba Gold will never go down in price and I'm gonna have to bite the bullet and buy it full price.
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I can't think of any band I have liked a lot at one point that I flat-out do not like anymore. Sure, there might be a song here and a song there that maybe didn't age well with me, but there is not a single band that I liked a lot at any point that I now look back on and think, "What was I thinking?" Some of it I might not like nearly as much (Ayreon) or I might not listen to them hardly at all anymore (AC/DC), but I still like it all to some extent. :biggrin:
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I can't think of any band I have liked a lot at one point that I flat-out do not like anymore.
Neither can I. I mean I was a huge Who fan back in high school, and Beatles back in middle school, but even though I don't listen to them now I still enjoy it when I hear it.