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Title: Favorite Transatlantic epic
Post by: bosk1 on June 07, 2010, 10:20:52 AM
Interesting poll in that we are talking about a band that has produced more epics than non-epics.  There may perhaps be some debate over whether a couple of the choices above quality or why something else wasn't on the list.  But while there are pretty standard, agreed-upon criteria for what may or may not make a song an "epic," when you get close to the edges, I think the lines become a bit blurry.  So while I recognize that this list may not be agreed on by everyone, it is what it is.  I'm perfectly fine for someone arguing that some other song should quality or that any of the above do not.  But, again, with the acknowledgement that there is not really a bright line to tell what is "in" and what is "out," I can easily justify everything that is on and off this list. 

Go.
Title: Re: Favorite Transatlantic epic
Post by: Nick on June 07, 2010, 10:22:32 AM
Duel With the Devil.
Title: Re: Favorite Transatlantic epic
Post by: Pyroph on June 07, 2010, 10:25:58 AM
Duel With the Devil.
This.

I usually go back and forth between Stranger in your Soul and Duel, but Duel has hands down one of the best choruses ever.
Title: Re: Favorite Transatlantic epic
Post by: Quadrochosis on June 07, 2010, 10:26:43 AM
"The Whirlwind", bar none. It's the best thing they've ever done.
Title: Re: Favorite Transatlantic epic
Post by: yeshaberto on June 07, 2010, 10:29:45 AM
just listened to the whirlwind again yesterday and it reminded me how awesome it really is
Title: Re: Favorite Transatlantic epic
Post by: bosk1 on June 07, 2010, 10:31:29 AM
just read Hebrews 12 again yesterday and it reminded me how awesome the Whirlwind tour really is

:D
Title: Re: Favorite Transatlantic epic
Post by: BRGM on June 07, 2010, 10:32:09 AM
The Whirlwind
Duel with the devil
Stranger in your soul


All of the above

Haven't listened to the rest that much, cuz, I didn't really like'em
Title: Re: Favorite Transatlantic epic
Post by: yeshaberto on June 07, 2010, 10:33:35 AM
just read Hebrews 12 again yesterday and it reminded me how awesome the Whirlwind tour really is

:D

help me on that one
Title: Re: Favorite Transatlantic epic
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on June 07, 2010, 10:49:51 AM
Duel With the Devil.
Indeed.

Every TA epic is special and pretty much some of the best progressive music I've ever heard, but DWTD is a beast.
Title: Re: Favorite Transatlantic epic
Post by: moffatt on June 07, 2010, 10:55:35 AM
super hard choice between Stranger and Whirlwind, the whirldwind is just a lil bit bettter.
Title: Re: Favorite Transatlantic epic
Post by: Jamesman42 on June 07, 2010, 10:57:45 AM
The Whirlwind blew them all away.
Title: Re: Favorite Transatlantic epic
Post by: King Postwhore on June 07, 2010, 10:58:38 AM
The Whirlwind,  I still play it twice a week.
Title: Re: Favorite Transatlantic epic
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on June 07, 2010, 11:01:50 AM
I think it's a little unfair to put The Whirlwind against any prog epic   :lol
Title: Re: Favorite Transatlantic epic
Post by: glaurung on June 07, 2010, 11:24:41 AM
It's hard to pick anything but The Whirlwind. It's has so many amazing parts because of how long it is.
Title: Re: Favorite Transatlantic epic
Post by: Quadrochosis on June 07, 2010, 11:25:42 AM
It's hard to pick anything but The Whirlwind. It's so long because it has so many amazing parts.

Fixed.
Title: Re: Favorite Transatlantic epic
Post by: glaurung on June 07, 2010, 11:26:22 AM
That's actually a pretty good fix. :lol
Title: Re: Favorite Transatlantic epic
Post by: Quadrochosis on June 07, 2010, 11:28:26 AM
That's actually a pretty good fix. :lol

That's what I'm here for! :tup
Title: Re: Favorite Transatlantic epic
Post by: contest_sanity on June 07, 2010, 11:34:13 AM
The Whirlwind blew them all away.
:lol
This.
Title: Re: Favorite Transatlantic epic
Post by: Nic35 on June 07, 2010, 11:42:43 AM
My New World. It used to be AOTA, but My New World is just too perfect not to be their best song. One of my favorite of all time.
Title: Re: Favorite Transatlantic epic
Post by: mizzl on June 07, 2010, 11:44:33 AM
It's hard to pick anything but The Whirlwind. It's so long because it has so many amazing parts.
I-I'm sorry..  :blush
Title: Re: Favorite Transatlantic epic
Post by: KevShmev on June 07, 2010, 01:25:54 PM
Not a single vote for "Stranger in Your Soul?"  WOW. :eek :eek :eek :eek

That aside, my top 5 would be:

1. "My New World"
2. "All of the Above"
3. "Stranger in Your Soul"
4. "The Whirlwind"
5. "Duel with the Devil"

I can't really rank the other two, as one is a cover, and the other is more of a suite in the mode of Side 2 of Abbey Road than an epic.
Title: Re: Favorite Transatlantic epic
Post by: bosk1 on June 07, 2010, 02:17:58 PM
I can't really rank the other two, as one is a cover, and the other is more of a suite in the mode of Side 2 of Abbey Road than an epic.

Oh, is In Held ('Twas) in I a cover?  I'm not famliar with the original, and I thought I had heard a while back that it was "inspired by" a previous piece as opposed to being an outright cover.  If it's a cover, I don't even want it on the list.  I thought briefly about whether to exclude Suite Charlotte Pike.  But it is one song, and even if the unifying theme is more or less to pay tribute to Abbey Road, side 2, that's not a good reason to disqualify it from the list.
Title: Re: Favorite Transatlantic epic
Post by: ScioPath on June 07, 2010, 02:30:33 PM
Not a single vote for "Stranger in Your Soul?"  WOW. :eek :eek :eek :eek

That aside, my top 5 would be:

1. "My New World"
2. "All of the Above"
3. "Stranger in Your Soul"
4. "The Whirlwind"
5. "Duel with the Devil"

I can't really rank the other two, as one is a cover, and the other is more of a suite in the mode of Side 2 of Abbey Road than an epic.

This. Mt exact ranking.
Title: Re: Favorite Transatlantic epic
Post by: reneranucci on June 07, 2010, 03:00:42 PM
I can't really rank the other two, as one is a cover, and the other is more of a suite in the mode of Side 2 of Abbey Road than an epic.

Oh, is In Held ('Twas) in I a cover?  I'm not famliar with the original, and I thought I had heard a while back that it was "inspired by" a previous piece as opposed to being an outright cover.  If it's a cover, I don't even want it on the list. 
It´s a cover, and much better than the original IMO. Actually, it´s my favorite song on a Transatlantic album  :lol
Title: Re: Favorite Transatlantic epic
Post by: skydivingninja on June 07, 2010, 04:49:08 PM
Duel with the Devil, followed by Stranger in Your Soul.
Title: Re: Favorite Transatlantic epic
Post by: Gadough on June 07, 2010, 04:51:48 PM
I won't vote because Duel With the Devil is the only Transatlantic song I've listened to. :blush I really love it though.
Title: Re: Favorite Transatlantic epic
Post by: bosk1 on June 08, 2010, 10:15:23 AM
Not a single vote for "Stranger in Your Soul?"  WOW. :eek :eek :eek :eek

It's probably my #2, and easily in my top 3.  But like a lot of people, it just doesn't make my top spot.
Title: Re: Favorite Transatlantic epic
Post by: ZBomber on June 08, 2010, 10:19:35 AM
I can't really rank the other two, as one is a cover, and the other is more of a suite in the mode of Side 2 of Abbey Road than an epic.

Oh, is In Held ('Twas) in I a cover?  I'm not famliar with the original, and I thought I had heard a while back that it was "inspired by" a previous piece as opposed to being an outright cover.

IIRC, the original is supposed to be the first true "prog epic", however, I have only heard Transatlantic's version.
Title: Re: Favorite Transatlantic epic
Post by: Marvellous G on June 08, 2010, 11:15:59 AM
While I think The Whirlwind is one of the greatest prog releases of all time, I can't help but be underwhelmed by Stranger In Your Soul. It's still a good, maybe very good song, but The Whirlwind is just in a completely different league.
Title: Re: Favorite Transatlantic epic
Post by: j on June 08, 2010, 12:07:52 PM
Duel With the Devil, easily.  One of my favorite songs ever; it's superb all the way through.

All of TA's other epics are excellent as well, but have their flaws.  For example, The Whirlwind drags quite a bit in the middle and later on.  Stranger In Your Soul seems to reprise itself a bit too much and has a few weaker sections that bring it down a bit.  All of the Above is a little "all over the place", but still has some brilliant parts.  At any rate, they're all very good, but for me DWTD is in a league of its own.

I can't really rank the other two, as one is a cover, and the other is more of a suite in the mode of Side 2 of Abbey Road than an epic.

Oh, is In Held ('Twas) in I a cover?  I'm not famliar with the original, and I thought I had heard a while back that it was "inspired by" a previous piece as opposed to being an outright cover.

IIRC, the original is supposed to be the first true "prog epic", however, I have only heard Transatlantic's version.

I want to say I remember reading that the original is by Procul Harum, though I'm not certain.  Haven't heard it, personally.

-J
Title: Re: Favorite Transatlantic epic
Post by: Dr. DTVT on June 08, 2010, 02:07:07 PM
"In Held ('Twas) in I" was originally done by Procol Harem.  You can find it on youtube split into two parts if you are so inclined.  The TA version is very faithful to the original, and is better engineered than the Procol Harem version.

I honestly can't decide between Duel and The Whirlwind.  It's so hard to compare them because of The Whirlwind's length and newness compared to DwtD.
Title: Re: Favorite Transatlantic epic
Post by: dedSurroun on June 08, 2010, 03:26:39 PM
Yeah, "In Held..." shouldn't be on this list. As mentioned, it's a cover.
Title: Re: Favorite Transatlantic epic
Post by: hefdaddy42 on June 08, 2010, 08:48:15 PM
Stranger
Title: Re: Favorite Transatlantic epic
Post by: juice on June 08, 2010, 10:11:58 PM
Stranger in Your Soul, Duel with the Devil, and All of the Above are very close but i choose Stranger.  I haven't heard the Whirlwind, i must get it soon.
Title: Re: Favorite Transatlantic epic
Post by: UnutterableSquid on June 08, 2010, 11:02:13 PM
The Whirlwind gets my vote
Title: Re: Favorite Transatlantic epic
Post by: toro on June 08, 2010, 11:06:12 PM
Duel with the Devil or The Whirlwind
My vote goes to The Whirlwind
Title: Re: Favorite Transatlantic epic
Post by: Sigz on June 08, 2010, 11:07:29 PM
Stranger in Your Soul by faarrrrrr
Title: Re: Favorite Transatlantic epic
Post by: axeman90210 on June 09, 2010, 05:23:39 AM
I voted for All of the Above,  because in some ways I don't think it's fair to compare The Whirlwind to some of the other songs when it's more than twice as long as any of those songs.
Title: Re: Favorite Transatlantic epic
Post by: cthrubuoy on June 09, 2010, 07:47:45 AM
Duel With the Devil.

A million times, this.
Title: Re: Favorite Transatlantic epic
Post by: KevShmev on July 27, 2010, 01:09:19 PM
"The Whirlwind" might very well take over the number 1 spot for me now.  I am addicted to it like crazy these days.

Regardless, I can safely say that...

"A Man Can Feel"
"Out of the Night"
"Rose Covered Glasses"

...collectively is the best 19 minutes of music Transatlantic has ever done.  A bold statement, yes, but one I firmly believe now.  :coolio
Title: Re: Favorite Transatlantic epic
Post by: The Letter M on July 27, 2010, 01:13:43 PM
"The Whirlwind" might very well take over the number 1 spot for me now.  I am addicted to it like crazy these days.

Regardless, I can safely say that...

"A Man Can Feel"
"Out of the Night"
"Rose Covered Glasses"

...collectively is the best 19 minutes of music Transatlantic has ever done.  A bold statement, yes, but one I firmly believe now.  :coolio


Hmmm... that is a really good run of songs. Although I'd have to say the last two tracks are about some of the best 20 minutes of music I've heard in years, and probably the best 20 minjutes by Transatlantic... so... It really is just an amazing album, and watching some of the clips from audience fans at High Voltage, I really felt how the material came alive in a live setting, and it makes me excited for the Whirld Tour DVD!

-Marc.