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Title: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: Slain on May 23, 2010, 05:58:26 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP6XpLQM2Cs

 :omg:

I heard this the other day. I died a little inside. And when you think it can't get worse:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3taEuL4EHAg  (It does)

Fyi, this is not an "ALL POPULAR MUSIC SUX" thread. Although I don't listen to the genre much, there are some good singers in there somewhere at least. This is just a new low. Seriously, there are a generation of kids that like this- and that scares me for our future.
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: black_biff_stadler on May 23, 2010, 06:03:46 AM
I don't even wait through ads to watch clips of artists I do like.
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: Arcaeus on May 23, 2010, 06:17:40 AM
Yeah, there was a thread regarding this song's use in a Simpsons episode.

Needless to say, people raged.

Me? I usually defend things like this, but this song, in my opinion, is irredeemable. Pop can be interesting, and the singers can have talent (believe it or not, metalheads). But this? It's just some whore talking through autotune over an uninspired, headache-inducing electronic beat with BrokeNCYDE-esque lyrics. I know that, in the end, pop is just supposed to be simple songs with catchy hooks that are to the point, nothing revolutionary (and there's nothing wrong with that, really), but nothing here grabs me.
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: Ultimetalhead on May 23, 2010, 06:20:26 AM
We have this local radio station that is absolutely committed to spamming the hell out of every popular song that was released within 6 months. It's always playing on the bus, and when I remove my headphones after a good death metal session it makes me want to kill the driver. Horrible, horrible music people are listening to these days.
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: wolfking on May 23, 2010, 06:21:47 AM
Yeah, there was a thread regarding this song's use in a Simpsons episode.

Needless to say, people raged.

Me? I usually defend things like this, but this song, in my opinion, is irredeemable. Pop can be interesting, and the singers can have talent (believe it or not, metalheads). But this? It's just some whore talking through autotune over an uninspired, headache-inducing electronic beat with BrokeNCYDE-esque lyrics. I know that, in the end, pop is just supposed to be simple songs with catchy hooks that are to the point, nothing revolutionary (and there's nothing wrong with that, really), but nothing here grabs me.

"Oh no, not the forum's thousandth "popular music is terrible" thread! Whatever will we do?"

Shouldn't this be your reply Arcaeus!  ;)
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: Arcaeus on May 23, 2010, 06:24:42 AM
Well, actually, yours was the one-thousandth, this would be one-thousand and one. Thanks though, man :tup
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: SPNKr on May 23, 2010, 06:30:45 AM
:lol
Anyways I agree with UMH.
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: wolfking on May 23, 2010, 06:31:20 AM
Well, actually, yours was the one-thousandth, this would be one-thousand and one. Thanks though, man :tup

Any time!  :hat
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: SPNKr on May 23, 2010, 06:35:36 AM
Forgot to mention I get this
This video contains content from Vevo, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: GuineaPig on May 23, 2010, 06:36:32 AM
It's not that bad.  It's catchy and simple; it can get a lot worse.
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: Arcaeus on May 23, 2010, 06:43:52 AM
It's not that bad.  It's catchy and simple; it can get a lot worse.

This is your opinion and I respect it.

Even though it is flat-out wrong. :neverusethis:
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: tri.ad on May 23, 2010, 06:47:27 AM
Damn, it must be really bad when Vevo doesn't want us Europeans too see it. :neverusethis:
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: Darkes7 on May 23, 2010, 06:50:10 AM
Forgot to mention I get this
This video contains content from Vevo, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.
Same here and I'm wondering what kind of fucking new policy is it on youtube that bans some videos from certain countries. Copyright grounds? Wtf? It's a video containing classified US data?

I know I'm not missing anything right here, but it's a general thought.
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: ZKX-2099 on May 23, 2010, 06:50:23 AM
It's not that bad.  It's catchy and simple; it can get a lot worse.

This is your opinion and I respect it.

Even though it is flat-out wrong. :neverusethis:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me0nsP_s7Rs&feature=player_embedded

You are the one who is wrong.
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: Arcaeus on May 23, 2010, 07:07:08 AM
It's not that bad.  It's catchy and simple; it can get a lot worse.

This is your opinion and I respect it.

Even though it is flat-out wrong. :neverusethis:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me0nsP_s7Rs&feature=player_embedded

You are the one who is wrong.

I meant regarding things that actual chart, of course there's worse music than the song in the OP (the majority of songs in the genres of black metal and power metal, for example).
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: wolfking on May 23, 2010, 07:07:41 AM
Forgot to mention I get this
This video contains content from Vevo, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.

I get this too, and I'm down under.
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: wolfking on May 23, 2010, 07:09:00 AM
It's not that bad.  It's catchy and simple; it can get a lot worse.

This is your opinion and I respect it.

Even though it is flat-out wrong. :neverusethis:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me0nsP_s7Rs&feature=player_embedded

You are the one who is wrong.

I meant regarding things that actual chart, of course there's worse music than the song in the OP (the majority of songs in the genres of power metal, for example).

Pffftt.....LOL, I respect that ridiculous opinion, but could not disagree more.
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: Dr. DTVT on May 23, 2010, 07:31:36 AM
It was terrible, like the rest of the autotunecore crap that gets posted under "pop is crap" titles.  The part that got my attention is in the blah blah video, the scene where she is bowling you can see that she has a Metallica shirt on.  I'm not sure how I feel about it.

BTW, I wouldn't mind seeing her in a video again; I would just prefer it if she was wearing nothing but a ball gag in a porno flick.
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: Slain on May 23, 2010, 08:21:21 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvaZBuA0K2k

That's the simpsons intro that plays the song. And here's links that should work:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG2V4f0682E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKio8CLxQ_U

Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: Dr. DTVT on May 23, 2010, 08:43:41 AM
Shit...I didn't realize that was a real song when I saw that on The Simpsons.  Now to get them to make a Dream Theater opening...
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: Slain on May 23, 2010, 08:51:03 AM
Shit...I didn't realize that was a real song when I saw that on The Simpsons.  Now to get them to make a Dream Theater opening...

They need an entire episode as a music video for CoT.

Anyway, on topic... Arcaeus, I agree with you for the most part- I like certain pop artists, but when I came across this I was pretty dumbfounded.
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: MetalManiac666 on May 23, 2010, 09:05:45 AM
I don't even wait through ads to watch clips of artists I do like.

This.
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: Slain on May 23, 2010, 09:21:24 AM
Pure Poetry:
And now, the dudes are lining up cause they hear we got swagger
But we kick em to the curb unless they look like Mick Jagger

That verse is possibly one of the worst two lines I've heard. You know the songwriters were thinking: "Shit, what rhymes with swagger?"

But we all know the ladies turn down anyone who doesn't look like this

(https://topnews.in/light/files/Mick_Jagger_0.jpg)
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on May 23, 2010, 09:25:33 AM
I fully endorse the assassination of Ke$ha (seriously, WTF is up with that dollar sign? Are you supposed to pronounce it Kee-dollarsign-ha?)
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: AwakeFromOctavarium on May 23, 2010, 09:44:39 AM
Dunno about the worst, but the best pop artist is Micheal Jackson for sure.
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: LCArenas on May 23, 2010, 09:49:10 AM
EDIT: Oh wait, you're talking about Ke$ha. Yup, she's the embodiment of everything that's wrong with Pop Music nowadays.

Also, I agree with this:
... But the best pop artist is Michael Jackson for sure.
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: Slain on May 23, 2010, 09:55:27 AM
Dunno about the worst, but the best pop artist is Micheal Jackson for sure.
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: robwebster on May 23, 2010, 10:01:15 AM
The genre itself isn't excruciating. Hell, even this song's not mindnumbingly awful - it's just very dull. It's another tawdry addition to an oversubscribed sector of the market. Lady Gaga is one of the people who makes this kind of music quite well. Paparazzi is a really well-written, catchy song. But right now there are umpteen female, electroniccy solo artists, and Ke$ha doesn't add anything new except an extra helping of shallow. She's not the worst ever by any means, just... one female synthy-thing too many. It's like "okay, we get the picture. What else have you got? Anything? Please?"

I'm not sure if she might be a parody. She's got to be a pisstake. Surely.



I actually reviewed her album for the student newspaper. It wasn't a positive review.
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: lonestar on May 23, 2010, 10:02:14 AM
Saw the thread title, and put on some Iron Maiden. :metal
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: AwakeFromOctavarium on May 23, 2010, 10:07:36 AM
I actually reviewed her album for the student newspaper. It wasn't a positive review.

A prog fan reviewing pop albums for student newspaper... I'd love to see some of your reviews.
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: Slain on May 23, 2010, 10:20:57 AM
I actually reviewed her album for the student newspaper. It wasn't a positive review.

A prog fan reviewing pop albums for student newspaper... I'd love to see some of your reviews.

Yes, please share. It'd be relevant to the thread.
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: antigoon on May 23, 2010, 11:28:33 AM
She's like a trashy Taylor Swift. I love it. There's far worse drivel out there.
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: lonestar on May 23, 2010, 11:47:35 AM
I actually reviewed her album for the student newspaper. It wasn't a positive review.

A prog fan reviewing pop albums for student newspaper... I'd love to see some of your reviews.

Yes, please share. It'd be relevant to the thread.
This.
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: shreddies on May 23, 2010, 12:00:30 PM
No words can describe how awful Your Love is My Drug is. Good lord.

(https://thatgrapejuice.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/l_5460c249f88a146ba02471762678e25d.jpg)

GTFO Kesha... gtfo....
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: antigoon on May 23, 2010, 12:02:48 PM
YOUR LOVE
YOUR LOVE
YOUR LOVE


IS MY DRUG!
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: SPNKr on May 23, 2010, 08:00:58 PM
I knew a man and he's a guitar teacher. One day some students of his wanted him to teach them Kesha on guitar, he told them to get out :lol And stated that it's wasting their parent's money and wasting his time.

And that song has some of the worst lyrics featured in a song, ever...
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: Jamesman42 on May 23, 2010, 08:15:03 PM
Aha! So the first song in the OP is where all those stupid Facebook status updates came from!
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: SPNKr on May 23, 2010, 08:20:29 PM
LOL! I advise these "people" to "get a life", that's all basically.
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: Jamesman42 on May 23, 2010, 08:24:56 PM
Seriously. I was about to ragedelete a bunch of "friends" for that Ke$ha crap.
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: antigoon on May 23, 2010, 09:52:14 PM
Yeah, how could you possibly associate yourself with such lower creatures :|
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: kirbywelch92 on May 23, 2010, 10:04:10 PM
Looks like I'm the only member who likes this song lol.

It's not like Ke$ha is trying to deny that she's a slut, she's more than aware of that lol. It's just fun party dance music.
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: antigoon on May 23, 2010, 10:12:44 PM
Looks like I'm the only member who likes this song lol.

It's not like Ke$ha is trying to deny that she's a slut, she's more than aware of that lol. It's just fun party dance music.

No, I agree with you. I wonder which pop act is going to be the next victim of a "MY EARS ARE BLEEDING" thread.
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: FiberglassMoon on May 23, 2010, 10:57:08 PM
So I watched as much as I could before bile started to rise in my throat.  Then I looked up the featured artist in that Ke$ha song, 3OH!3, and I puked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdB3Oyd5HtU

Wow. 
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: Sigz on May 23, 2010, 11:02:44 PM
God I hear Tik Tok so often, it's disgusting.

Also:

(https://img32.imageshack.us/img32/8349/1274317654699.png)
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: SPNKr on May 23, 2010, 11:06:30 PM
^ :lol
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: Sigz on May 23, 2010, 11:07:45 PM
I'd snip that, it's against teh rules.
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: robwebster on May 24, 2010, 05:29:23 AM
I actually reviewed her album for the student newspaper. It wasn't a positive review.

A prog fan reviewing pop albums for student newspaper... I'd love to see some of your reviews.

Yes, please share. It'd be relevant to the thread.
This.
Haha, oh cripes I've got expectations to live up to now. Well, they're not that fantastic by and large. I read them a couple of days ago and didn't like how pretentious I sounded in them, but yeah. My most savage beatings have included get-out clauses because I've been a little hesitant to publish reviews across campus which might be slagging off bands that they really like, so I try to be fair and respect the possibility that it might just not be for me, rather than objectively bad. Also, we've got a pretty vibrant pop scene over here, so I've actually ended up enjoying a lot of artists. Florence + the Machine are magical. I'd recommend 'em.

That said, biggest pile of drivel I've listened to is N-Dubz. I've thrown in a get-out clause, like I said - it's not my home genre so it'd be unfair to write it off entirely - but still... these guys make my mind hurt.

N-Dubz - Against All Odds
Don't worry, kids. Here comes N-Dubz to rescue the world of music. Now finally satisfied that his papa can hear him, Dappy has taken time out between appearances on Never Mind the Buzzcocks to charitably raise the bar for us with his unique brand of soulful urban storytelling and remind us why he really is the true voice of our generation. Against All Odds features, among other tracks, the irredeemably sinister I Need You, an ode to facebook stalking which would be hilarious were it not completely devoid of any sense of irony, and the delightfully profane Suck Yourself, which you can play at all your posh dinner parties as long as they're exclusively attended by people who you hate and want to go away. I am, in honesty, being slightly unfair. They've already had several very successful singles and they're producing some undeniably catchy music which has reportedly impressed Kylie Minogue of all people - who has released 10 albums and appeared on Doctor Who, so what do I know? N-Dubz's latest album just strikes me as being shallow and insipid even in the context of the current chart, but if you liked their last album you'll probably find something to love here, too.

And, to keep it relevant...

Ke$ha - Whatever her album's called, I've forgotten
I'm not entirely sure why Ke$ha's popular. I'm not even sure if she might even a parody of the barmy excesses of tacky pop culture – but everything from the dollar-sign she insists on slapping all over her name, to her slurred, drunken singing seems to represent the music industry at its most objectionable. My favourite song is definitely D.I.N.O.S.A.U.R. Its chorus goes “D-I-N-O-S-A-U-R, a dinosaur!” which is kind of witty, but about five times more enjoyable if you ignore the thin subtext and imagine that she's just trying to teach the world how to spell “dinosaur.” I'm certain that her tongue is in her cheek – it's got to be – but that doesn't really justify the inception of yet another female solo artist with a penchant for synthesisers. Come on, world! Move on!

I think I chomped a lot of abuse off the Kesha one due to word limits. Should really say "witty in an inane way" and "paper-thin subtext." Looking back, that middle bit looks borderline flattering.
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: skydivingninja on May 24, 2010, 06:04:46 AM
Of the two songs I've heard, Ke$ha is one of the few pop acts I actually hate.
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on May 24, 2010, 06:26:25 AM
Forgot to mention I get this
This video contains content from Vevo, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.

You're better off that way, trust me.
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: Slain on May 24, 2010, 08:15:26 PM
Looks like I'm the only member who likes this song lol.

It's not like Ke$ha is trying to deny that she's a slut, she's more than aware of that lol. It's just fun party dance music.

Yes, but she thinks she's doing something good.

"I have very empowering lyrics
for women. I kind of take how guys talk to women all over this industry and throw it back at them. And they’re all getting their panties in a wad, and I think that’s hilarious. I’m literally just talking to a man the way any rapper talks about women in every rap song on the radio.”

So for example, If on the radio, Japanese people were making songs bashing Mexican people, and being extremely offensive and racist- the best way to go would be for the Japanese people to do the exact same thing? Double standards rule! A lot of this pop and rap music channeling out of the ass of America needs to just find a new topic.

“Don’t be a little bitch with your chit chat, just show me where your d—’s at,”

So empowering.

She could actually do something that's CLEVER and make fun of the style of videos portrayed by MTV, and the music that objectifies women instead of just creating another giant double standard to add to the pile that we already have. Not saying it wouldn't still suck balls, but it'd be more passable.
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: antigoon on May 24, 2010, 08:53:58 PM
She's creating a double standard by challenging a double standard? I don't get it.
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: Sigz on May 24, 2010, 08:56:08 PM
Or we could save time, skip the rationalizations and just say she's an idiot.
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: SPNKr on May 24, 2010, 09:00:22 PM
Screw this thread when you can read reviews like the ones here https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/ke_ha/animal/
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: antigoon on May 24, 2010, 09:03:04 PM
Or we could save time, skip the rationalizations and just say she's an idiot.

Or we could just stop making these stupid threads for people with obscure tastes to feel better about themselves.


fake edit: Man, why am I being such a dick tonight?
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: Jamesman42 on May 25, 2010, 11:59:41 AM
Yeah, how could you possibly associate yourself with such lower creatures :|

HEY
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: Sigz on May 25, 2010, 12:01:44 PM
Or we could save time, skip the rationalizations and just say she's an idiot.

Or we could just stop making these stupid threads for people with obscure tastes to feel better about themselves.

I like your idea better.
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: robwebster on May 25, 2010, 09:26:16 PM
Looks like I'm the only member who likes this song lol.

It's not like Ke$ha is trying to deny that she's a slut, she's more than aware of that lol. It's just fun party dance music.

Yes, but she thinks she's doing something good.

"I have very empowering lyrics
for women. I kind of take how guys talk to women all over this industry and throw it back at them. And they’re all getting their panties in a wad, and I think that’s hilarious. I’m literally just talking to a man the way any rapper talks about women in every rap song on the radio.”

So for example, If on the radio, Japanese people were making songs bashing Mexican people, and being extremely offensive and racist- the best way to go would be for the Japanese people to do the exact same thing? Double standards rule! A lot of this pop and rap music channeling out of the ass of America needs to just find a new topic.

“Don’t be a little bitch with your chit chat, just show me where your d—’s at,”

So empowering.

She could actually do something that's CLEVER and make fun of the style of videos portrayed by MTV, and the music that objectifies women instead of just creating another giant double standard to add to the pile that we already have. Not saying it wouldn't still suck balls, but it'd be more passable.
If I'm honest... I do think it's fairly clever. That's a massive subversion. I really like that she's striding right up to a bigoted industry - squaring up to the egotistical bastard rap-stars and going "Right, dudes. I can't stop you being misogenistic, that's your prerogative - but if so, this is a two way street. Bend over." That's fantastic.

And I'm quite pleased that I was right when I figured her tongue was in her cheek. That actually makes it a lot more salvagable for me. She's not being egotistical, she's lampooning a sector of music that is, in fairness, in desperate need of lampooning.

But, that said, her music just isn't original. The market's already saturated with lady solo-artists with synthesiser fetishes. I can't make myself get excited about her, which is a shame.
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: antigoon on May 25, 2010, 09:37:23 PM
I agree with everything stated above.
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: Arcaeus on May 25, 2010, 11:11:46 PM
Or we could save time, skip the rationalizations and just say she's an idiot.

Or we could just stop making these stupid threads for people with obscure tastes to feel better about themselves.

I like your idea better.
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: sneakyblueberry on May 27, 2010, 06:55:23 AM
I hate this and I wish it would go away
Title: Re: Worst Pop Artist Ever?
Post by: MetalManiac666 on May 27, 2010, 10:34:34 PM
God I hear Tik Tok so often, it's disgusting.

Also:

(https://img32.imageshack.us/img32/8349/1274317654699.png)

:rollin :rollin :rollin