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Title: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: KevShmev on May 17, 2010, 01:06:28 PM
The red-headed stepchild of the DT song family, this song never seems to get the respect it deserves, if you ask me.  One of the highlights on the debut record, this is a killer tune that needs more love. :hat
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: nikatapi on May 17, 2010, 01:48:52 PM
I completely agree. One of my favorites from the first album. I like the key parts very much.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: Ultimetalhead on May 17, 2010, 02:02:10 PM
Awesome song. WDADU as a whole never gets enough love, but this song especially.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: Mebert78 on May 17, 2010, 02:03:48 PM
I love when song meanings are not that obvious, as in this case.  Well, it wasn't that obvious to me at least.  I didn't totally get it until I saw Kevin explain it on the WDADRU dvd.  It's about "f*cking and forgetting," as he said, in order to avoid getting hurt.  Also, the warm keyboard pad in the middle section gives me chills everytime I hear it. 
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: Quadrochosis on May 17, 2010, 02:04:21 PM
Awesome song. WDADU as a whole never gets enough love, but this song especially.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: Mebert78 on May 17, 2010, 02:05:52 PM
"Have you ever been used or will this be the first time?"

That's such an evil line.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: tri.ad on May 17, 2010, 02:46:30 PM
Great, great song. I love the instrumental section, it contains a groove that is not often found in DT songs. The vocal lines are pretty awkward, but the lyrics are pretty good for what they are.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: Setlist Scotty on May 17, 2010, 04:09:34 PM
The red-headed stepchild of the DT song family, this song never seems to get the respect it deserves, if you ask me.  One of the highlights on the debut record, this is a killer tune that needs more love. :hat

Amen brutha! My favorite off of WDaDU and definitely one that I would love to see live again (tho I was fortunate enough to see it twice in 2004).
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: hefdaddy42 on May 17, 2010, 04:22:10 PM
I'll be honest, I've never really cared for this song very much.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: bosk1 on May 17, 2010, 04:22:30 PM
...this is a killer tune that needs more love. :hat

Yes.  It definitely suffers from some pacing issues at some points, but is overall a really good song.  Has been one of my favorites on that album for a long time.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: Darkes7 on May 17, 2010, 04:25:04 PM
I've always found it one of my WDADU favourites. I really love the part when the vocals enter, it feels really dynamic.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: KevShmev on May 17, 2010, 06:27:49 PM
3:50-3:53

This is still one of the best moments in DT history.  :hat
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: Global Laziness on May 17, 2010, 08:39:46 PM
I love this song. A close contender for my favourite on WDaDU and in my top 25 Dream Theater songs.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: setrataeso on May 17, 2010, 09:14:45 PM
I waiver back and forth between loving this song and thinking its ok/not that great.
I haven't heard it in a while, but last I checked, I wasn't really into it.

I will give credit, though: this is an unusual song to say the least. I appreciate the riffs and structure of this song, considering its so bizarre.
Definitely underappreciated, though.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: Mladen on May 18, 2010, 12:47:38 AM
It's a great track, one of the better ones on WDADU.  :)
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: ZKX-2099 on May 18, 2010, 07:36:01 AM
The unique pacing of the lyrics make the song for me.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: Orbert on May 18, 2010, 07:42:45 AM
I never really liked this song, but I'll admit that I haven't listened to the first album nearly as much as the rest.  Maybe it'll grow on me or something.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: ZeppelinDT on May 18, 2010, 08:08:29 AM
Probably tied w/ Only a Matter of Time for my favorite WDADU song.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: Orbert on May 18, 2010, 11:08:19 AM
Okay, I listened to WDADU, and this song is better than I remembered.  Will listen again.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: Dublagent66 on May 18, 2010, 12:09:39 PM
It's an ok song.  JP's solo is the highlight for me.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: emindead on May 18, 2010, 02:22:04 PM
I got hooked with the "Would you like to sit and talk to me..." part. And then the song goes downhill into a bad 80s groove.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: black_biff_stadler on May 18, 2010, 02:33:31 PM
Awesome song. WDADU as a whole never gets enough love, but this song especially.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: reneranucci on May 18, 2010, 02:44:28 PM
Ahhhhhhh... if only the original WDADU had a better production  :sad:
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: changing_seasons on May 18, 2010, 04:36:05 PM
I think it's a great song, but I only listen to the WDADRU version. What Jordan does there is incredible!
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: GuineaPig on May 18, 2010, 05:24:12 PM
Favourite from WDaDU.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: Ben_Jamin on May 18, 2010, 06:02:05 PM
it's in my top 10
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: Orbert on May 18, 2010, 10:39:56 PM
I listened to WDADU all the way through today, twice.  Music is good, but I think Charlie's voice actually bugs me more the more I hear it.  I was thinking maybe I'd get used to it after a while, but it just doesn't seem to happen.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: Infinite Cactus on May 18, 2010, 11:43:34 PM
This song and The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun are two of the greatest prog metal songs ever written
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: carl320 on May 19, 2010, 12:33:25 PM
This song and The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun are two of the greatest prog metal songs ever written

The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun is another great song.

...WDADU as a whole never gets enough love...

This
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: bosk1 on May 19, 2010, 12:47:12 PM
...WDADU as a whole never gets enough love...

This

That's a tough one, really.  The dilemma is that it is perhaps the most polarizing album in the band's catalog in terms of people really liking it vs. people really not liking it.  It gets some love, but not as much as any of their later albums.  For me, as someone who likes it a lot, but not nearly as much as any of their later albums, I feel like it get just about the amount of love it should.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: ? on May 19, 2010, 12:56:03 PM
LF&GA is my least favourite song on WD&DU, although it's not a bad song. But WD&DU isn't my least favourite album, I really like it! I think people often overlook it because of Charlie's vocals and the bad production. I didn't like it at first listen, either, but it grew on me.
This song and The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun are two of the greatest prog metal songs ever written
I agree with you on TOWHTSTS! I think it's one of the most underrated DT songs.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: Ben_Jamin on May 19, 2010, 12:58:29 PM
Those two songs are the only songs that I prefer Charlies vocals over JLB's.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: bosk1 on May 19, 2010, 01:00:35 PM
I think people often overlook it because of Charlie's vocals and the bad production.

I think you are right.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on May 19, 2010, 01:07:49 PM
"I can't see where this is going" is one of my favorite sing-alongs in DT songs  :lol I absolutely love this tune, and I although JLB's performance of it in WDADRU is good, I have another bootleg where they play the tune and JLB owns it. Man, James does seem to have bad luck in most official recordings  :P
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: Dream Team on May 19, 2010, 02:13:47 PM
"I can't see where this is going" is one of my favorite sing-alongs in DT songs  :lol I absolutely love this tune, and I although JLB's performance of it in WDADRU is good, I have another bootleg where they play the tune and JLB owns it. Man, James does seem to have bad luck in most official recordings  :P

QFT. One of these days MP should pull together a compilation DVD of all of James' strongest performances of a bunch of their classic songs.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: Dream Team on May 19, 2010, 02:14:51 PM
3:50-3:53

This is still one of the best moments in DT history.  :hat

Will have to check this out on the way home, but I am assuming it is the bass & drum spot during the bridge . . .
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: hefdaddy42 on May 19, 2010, 02:55:32 PM
I listened to WDADU all the way through today, twice.  Music is good, but I think Charlie's voice actually bugs me more the more I hear it.  I was thinking maybe I'd get used to it after a while, but it just doesn't seem to happen.
I understand completely.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: KevShmev on May 19, 2010, 04:29:30 PM
3:50-3:53

This is still one of the best moments in DT history.  :hat

Will have to check this out on the way home, but I am assuming it is the bass & drum spot during the bridge . . .

It is the little breakdown before the second chorus.  I have a feeling you are talking about the same part. :metal
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: Dream Team on May 20, 2010, 07:04:34 AM
3:50-3:53

This is still one of the best moments in DT history.  :hat

Will have to check this out on the way home, but I am assuming it is the bass & drum spot during the bridge . . .

It is the little breakdown before the second chorus.  I have a feeling you are talking about the same part. :metal

Yes, very nice. And I really miss the rhythm section dynamic MP and JM had on that record.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: SnakeEyes on May 20, 2010, 07:19:11 AM
Awesome song.  But, I think Status Seeker and The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun are the sleepers on WDADU. 
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: KevShmev on May 20, 2010, 09:10:15 AM
Yes, very nice. And I really miss the rhythm section dynamic MP and JM had on that record.

Myung's sad bass lines are just incredible.  It really is impressive how technically great Petrucci, Myung, Portnoy and Moore all were at such young ages on that record.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: wasp2020 on May 20, 2010, 07:06:09 PM
The instrumental riff sections are crazy, the solo section is really atmospheric, and the vocal sections are plain groovy and catchy.
And even though it's so short, I think that one voice clip fits so perfectly
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: EstyMaJ on May 21, 2010, 05:51:32 AM
Funny thing is im listining to it right now and holy shit !! I have come back to this cd at least 100 times since i bought it in the early 90's and now all of a sudden i LIKE it WTF!!
I always like light fuse , fortune and Ytse but now im really enjoying this cd for the first time ever without cringing from the vocals
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: ZKX-2099 on May 21, 2010, 07:26:24 AM
I really like the whole CD. Charlie I enjoy Charlie (not more than James) as well. The quality issue is why I rarely listen to it.

Most of my music listening is on my iPod. I make a play list hit random and like to forget about fussing with it. But with all those songs being quieter than the rest... you get my point.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: EstyMaJ on May 21, 2010, 08:00:55 AM
I really like the whole CD. Charlie I enjoy Charlie (not more than James) as well. The quality issue is why I rarely listen to it.

Most of my music listening is on my iPod. I make a play list hit random and like to forget about fussing with it. But with all those songs being quieter than the rest... you get my point.
Do you use or ever hear of the program mp3 gain ? Its pretty good for makeing all your mp3's volume gain even .
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: ZKX-2099 on May 21, 2010, 08:29:48 AM
Thank you. I shall look into this.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: Neada on June 18, 2010, 02:49:54 PM
As for me, I like The One Who Help to Set The Sun.
But I like this track, too.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: TL on June 18, 2010, 03:05:23 PM
"I can't see where this is going" is one of my favorite sing-alongs in DT songs  :lol I absolutely love this tune, and I although JLB's performance of it in WDADRU is good, I have another bootleg where they play the tune and JLB owns it. Man, James does seem to have bad luck in most official recordings  :P

QFT. One of these days MP should pull together a compilation DVD of all of James' strongest performances of a bunch of their classic songs.
In theory there's a bootleg floating around out there titled 'When Dream and James Unite', with James performing all of the WDADU songs (quite possibly from different shows) back during the IaW era. If Mike were to release something like that as an official bootleg, I would buy like five copies, day one.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: Setlist Scotty on June 18, 2010, 04:08:44 PM
"I can't see where this is going" is one of my favorite sing-alongs in DT songs  :lol I absolutely love this tune, and I although JLB's performance of it in WDADRU is good, I have another bootleg where they play the tune and JLB owns it. Man, James does seem to have bad luck in most official recordings  :P

QFT. One of these days MP should pull together a compilation DVD of all of James' strongest performances of a bunch of their classic songs.
In theory there's a bootleg floating around out there titled 'When Dream and James Unite', with James performing all of the WDADU songs (quite possibly from different shows) back during the IaW era. If Mike were to release something like that as an official bootleg, I would buy like five copies, day one.

There are 2 boots out there like that - When Dream and James Unite and When Dream and Today Unite. As for MP releasing something like that, the closest you'll come is either WDaDR or taking the official bootlegs and official releases and putting together a compilation yourself. FYI, TOWHtStS was not performed on the IaW tour - it was first performed with James during the Awake tour.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: KevShmev on February 17, 2011, 08:21:10 AM
"Someone told me...light fuse and get away!"

So good. :hat
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: rumborak on February 17, 2011, 08:51:39 AM
JLB's rendition is pretty brutal to listen to on WDADRU.

rumborak
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: Bill Carson on February 17, 2011, 08:57:03 AM
Maybe its because of the poor production or more likely.....Charlies vocals but I always consider WDADU as the 'demo album'.
Images & Words will always be the 1st album in my DT world.

In terms of the song, some great ideas and slick playing.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: snowdog on February 17, 2011, 09:01:53 AM
I really love this song and the album as a whole.  I have never had a problem with Charlie's voice personally.  I actually can't stand some of the live records I've heard of LaBrie doing some of the vocals (the end of Killing Hand on LatM especially).  There are definitely lines were LaBrie's voice is preferable though.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: Algo Fonix on February 17, 2011, 10:33:15 AM
It's really hard for me to decide if it's one of my favorites on WDADU or not... because I love all of the songs so much.  I remember hearing it for the first time and really digging the intro.  Great song.  I have this strange love for all of the majesty-wdadu era music.  Just has that raw ferocity and beauty that is lost on anything afterwards.  Maybe I just enjoy the production?  Bad as it sounds, I think it's a pretty damn awesome album, and a great debut.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: rumborak on February 17, 2011, 10:50:17 AM
I'm surprised how many people like this tune. For me it suffers from the cut-and-paste nature of the song.

rumborak
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on February 17, 2011, 11:21:26 AM
"Someone told me...light fuse and get away!"

So good. :hat
Just pointing this out.  :biggrin:


The groove in this song is nothing but amazing.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: Ħ on February 17, 2011, 01:48:22 PM
Coming in here to say it's my third least favorite song.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: jsem on February 17, 2011, 01:49:03 PM
Great song. BrotherH can suck it
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: lateralus88 on February 17, 2011, 02:34:01 PM
Light Fuse and Get Away is easily my favourite from WDADU. Such a fucking cool song.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: Lowdz on February 17, 2011, 02:44:17 PM
Just a great album. Underappreciated and overlooked. The weak part is the vocals but it's still great. And a great song. Absolutely all over the place musically, but in a good way.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: JayOctavarium on February 19, 2011, 11:07:49 PM
this song both bugs the shit out of me and makes me a very happy Jay
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: Nick on February 19, 2011, 11:14:40 PM
Not in my top half of the album, but an awesome song and one that is as underrated as the rest of the debut.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: Occasional_Madman on February 21, 2011, 11:58:06 PM
It's really hard for me to decide if it's one of my favorites on WDADU or not... because I love all of the songs so much.  I remember hearing it for the first time and really digging the intro.  Great song.  I have this strange love for all of the majesty-wdadu era music.  Just has that raw ferocity and beauty that is lost on anything afterwards.  Maybe I just enjoy the production?  Bad as it sounds, I think it's a pretty damn awesome album, and a great debut.

I feel the same way about all their early material. There's just this sort of wild playing that doesn't appear on anything else they've done. I find this most evident in JMX's bass playing. I mean, on every single song he has his own unique part that he's playing. It's rare that he doubles what JP's doing on this album. I've always loved that about WDADU.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on February 24, 2011, 11:33:10 PM
My favorite from this album too!  Maybe because it is oft kicked to the side, it makes it a rare treat to hear live (like Scotty, i was also fortunate in 2004).

Its an awkward song that takes some time to wrap your hands around, which is completely why I love listening to DT.  Sometimes prog is a two way street wherein the listener must actively participate in slowly digesting the elements of a song.  Thus, I appreciate it all the more.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: KevShmev on November 10, 2013, 08:52:47 AM
JLB's rendition is pretty brutal to listen to on WDADRU.

 

I just listened to it, and while brutal is not the word I would use, it definitely appears as if this song was one that was meant for Charlie's voice; JLB doesn't have the vocal style to really pull off this song well, which could explain its lack of play over the years.  Plus, that live version musically just didn't have the great vibe the original had; they just weren't able to nail some of the little nuances that makes the studio version so cool, probably because they have barely played it live, so it isn't as ingrained in their minds and fingers as most of their other songs. 
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: ? on November 10, 2013, 12:22:47 PM
But WD&DU isn't my least favourite album, I really like it! I think people often overlook it because of Charlie's vocals and the bad production.
Holy shit, a post by a 15-year-old Captain Obvious! :rollin
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: GasparXR on November 10, 2013, 04:12:49 PM
But WD&DU isn't my least favourite album, I really like it! I think people often overlook it because of Charlie's vocals and the bad production.
Holy shit, a post by a 15-year-old Captain Obvious! :rollin

:rollin I laughed at that as well.

I used to think this was my least favourite DT song, but it grew on me a bit. It's still my least favourite from WDADU though. I think the intro drags for too long before the first verse enters, but after that point the song doesn't drag. It's actually pretty decent from that point on, and someone mentioned the ambient section right after the second chorus, before the solo section. REALLY good part there.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: Cable on November 11, 2013, 07:35:04 AM
To me, one of the better songs on WDADU. Lyrics are obvious but very good IMO.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: The Stray Seed on November 11, 2013, 09:56:53 AM
Best intro to a song on WDADU. I just love it. I remember listening to that intro over and over when I bought the CD.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: SuperTaco on November 12, 2013, 08:52:55 AM
A thread related to WDADU, well here I am. :lol

The entire instrumental section from 4:15-5:41 gives me goosebumps. It's like a chill that lasts for a minute and a half. First it's the effects-laden keyboards that surround me, than it's the catchy drum lines underneath, than it's the great guitar solo (my 2nd favorite next to Afterlife). It's one of those musical moments where things like production quality go out the window. It's one of those times where I can simply enjoy what is happening without worrying about the finer details.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: Rodni Demental on November 13, 2013, 04:43:25 PM
"I can't see where this is going" is one of my favorite sing-alongs in DT songs  :lol I absolutely love this tune, and I although JLB's performance of it in WDADRU is good, I have another bootleg where they play the tune and JLB owns it. Man, James does seem to have bad luck in most official recordings  :P

QFT. One of these days MP should pull together a compilation DVD of all of James' strongest performances of a bunch of their classic songs.
In theory there's a bootleg floating around out there titled 'When Dream and James Unite', with James performing all of the WDADU songs (quite possibly from different shows) back during the IaW era. If Mike were to release something like that as an official bootleg, I would buy like five copies, day one.

There are 2 boots out there like that - When Dream and James Unite and When Dream and Today Unite. As for MP releasing something like that, the closest you'll come is either WDaDR or taking the official bootlegs and official releases and putting together a compilation yourself. FYI, TOWHtStS was not performed on the IaW tour - it was first performed with James during the Awake tour.

I need to find this When Dream and James Unite or When Dream and Today Unite! I've already hunted for my own bootlegs of these songs. There are plenty of decent versions of Ytse Jam, A Forunte in Lies and The Killing Hand. But some of the others are not so easy. I've come across a fairly satisfactory version of Status Seeker from the early 90s. But for the life of me, I can't find a decent version of Only a Matter or Time, even though there are a lot of versions of that song. It's just.. not good enough.  :lol

As for Light the Fuse, and Ones Who set the Sun... Those are rarities that are hard enough to even find any recording of...
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: TheAtliator on May 01, 2014, 11:06:03 PM
Ok, yes I know it has an appreciation thread, but it deserves a WTF PEOPLE thread too. This is one of the greatest songs on one of DT's greatest albums (so really, one of the greatest albums ever), and I don't think I've ever heard another song ANYTHING like it.

It's freaking EVERYTHING good about music, and I've always known it doesn't get the attention it deserves for a few understandable reasons, but just today someone said to me "two worst songs of that album, which are also two of the worst songs they have ever put out" (grouped with TOWHTSTS), and that just knocked it over the edge. Are you people not listening to the bass, guitar, vocal lines, guitar, drums, keyboard, intro, verse, chorus, second verse, one of the greatest rhythmic themes ever (coupled with one of the most distortedly twisted and striking melody lines), one of the greatest variations on anything ever that they do to that theme, instrumental section, outro, bombastically explicit emotion, and energy of this song??  ??? ???

 :angry: This needed to be said. One of the most distinctive songs I've ever heard jam packed with brilliant idea after brilliant idea.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 01, 2014, 11:08:26 PM
I agree.





That it's one of the two worst songs on WDADU, and one of the very worst songs DT has ever written. I'm not even convinced the band members are playing the same song.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: Hayden on May 01, 2014, 11:09:08 PM
[...]but just today someone said to me "two worst songs of that album, which are also two of the worst songs they have ever put out" (grouped with TOWHTSTS), and that just knocked it over the edge.

So, I guess you could say that it was that comment that... lit the fuse.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: TheAtliator on May 01, 2014, 11:13:10 PM
[...]but just today someone said to me "two worst songs of that album, which are also two of the worst songs they have ever put out" (grouped with TOWHTSTS), and that just knocked it over the edge.

So, I guess you could say that it was that comment that... lit the fuse.

AHWOHAAHOHAAAAAAAAOHWWOH!O!!OHEWJ!!!!!!!HAAAAAA :panicattack:
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: ? on May 01, 2014, 11:17:38 PM
I like WDADU much more than the average DT fan, but LFAGA has always been my least favorite song on the album. I find the transition into the fast verse pretty clumsy and the verse itself suffers from the way the lyrics are delivered. There's also something about the chorus that puts me off. Not one of the absolute worst DT songs ever, but not one I love, either.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: TheAtliator on May 01, 2014, 11:22:58 PM
Something about early DT is just so ballsy. I guess that's the best way I could say it. I love all the albums throughout time (ADTOE is one of my top 3) but every once and a while I come across things in the modern-day DT songs that seem a little bit too held back. Just a thought.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: ReaPsTA on May 01, 2014, 11:35:30 PM
Co-signing the OP's post.

Light Fuse is badass.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: Hayden on May 01, 2014, 11:50:27 PM
On a serious note, I like the song as well, and agree with the 'ballsiness' comment. The experimentation and sense of adventure to this song (and much of Dream Theater's early material) is just tremendous. But I think that the production and slightly raggedy performance is what lets it down. Unless you know what the band was trying to achieve, it can sound a bit like a jumbled mess. That's why I personally prefer the WDADReunite version, because there's just a bit more clarity to it, and ultimately displays the direction that the band were aiming.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: TheAtliator on May 02, 2014, 12:05:39 AM
I agree with some of that.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: aprilethereal on May 02, 2014, 12:47:45 AM
I wrote that comment you mentioned and yep, I don't like the song at all. Definitely my least favourite from WDADU.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: Dreamer on May 02, 2014, 01:45:04 AM
Sorry, I hate it as I do most of the debut album. The record put me off DT for nearly 25 years!
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: 425 on May 02, 2014, 04:49:52 AM
That it's one of the two worst songs on WDADU, and one of the very worst songs DT has ever written. I'm not even convinced the band members are playing the same song.

To say nothing of the fact that the vocal melodies are just bad.

I'm sorry, I like WDADU, but LFAGA is just a bad song. TOWHTSTS is okay; though I don't think it lives up to its full potential, I think the chorus is very good as are some other parts. That one could have been a very good song with some smarter edits by more mature songwriters. The rest of WDADU is pretty good, even though there are some awkward parts. But LFAGA could never have been good and isn't good.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: CharlesPL on May 02, 2014, 05:26:57 AM
This is one of the greatest songs on one of DT's greatest albums (so really, one of the greatest albums ever)

This,i vote for this song on DT league,almost every time. :loser:
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: Mladen on May 02, 2014, 05:33:15 AM
Light fuse and get away is a really good song. It would even be great if the chorus was slightly more convincing, I find it a bit repetitive. But overall, quite an underrated song, and I'd love to hear it live. However, the fact that the song has only been played about 15 times live tells me the band isn't really into it.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: ? on May 02, 2014, 05:41:26 AM
However, the fact that the song has only been played about 15 times live tells me the band isn't really into it.
Yeah, the exact number is 12. The fact that it has been played only 4 times since Charlie's departure says a lot.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: Setlist Scotty on May 02, 2014, 06:05:30 AM
I agree.

That it's one of the two worst songs on WDADU, and one of the very worst songs DT has ever written. I'm not even convinced the band members are playing the same song.
/smacks Blob upside his head  :loser:

Gotta go with the OP that it's a great song - my personal favorite off of WDaDU, with TOWHtStS being a close second. Glad to see I'm not alone!
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: wasteland on May 02, 2014, 07:03:02 AM
I don't especially like it, but the 2004 added (or updated) instrumental section kicks major ass  :metal
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: son_ov_hades on May 02, 2014, 07:24:49 AM
Like all of When Dream And Day Unite, it rules. I've stopped trying to understand the hate for this song and album, I just chalk it up to bad taste.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 02, 2014, 07:39:11 AM
Like all of When Dream And Day Unite, it rules. I've stopped trying to understand the hate for this song and album, I just chalk it up to bad taste.  :laugh:

I chalk it up to the incredibly weak songwriting. Each to his own.

Even compared to WDADU, it's not one of the good ones.
AFIL is a pretty good song from start to finish aside from some minor phrasing issues and the bridge melodies, The Ytse Jam is a cool little instrumental, TKH isn't bad for a first attempt at a longer "epic" and is redeemed with JLB singing new melodies, and Afterlife is good too aside from some typical WDADU arrangement issues.
Even though I don't like it at all, I can see how someone might enjoy OAMOT, and SS at least has a half average chorus despite the rest being very poor.
But I can't hear a single redeeming feature in TOWHTSTS or LFAGA at all. At a stretch, I can understand people finding some enjoyment in all but these two songs. They're the perfect examples of what was wrong with the album.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: TheAtliator on May 02, 2014, 09:03:07 AM
Like all of When Dream And Day Unite, it rules. I've stopped trying to understand the hate for this song and album, I just chalk it up to bad taste.  :laugh:

 :metal :tup
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: Mebert78 on May 02, 2014, 09:18:31 AM
Love Kevin's lyrics in this song.  "Have you ever been used, or will this be the first time?"
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: Crow on May 02, 2014, 09:29:01 AM
Sloppy songwriting, one of Dominici's worse performances, not a fan but I don't hate it really.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: jakepriest on May 02, 2014, 09:39:10 AM
I actually had to go and listen to it because of this post because I don't remember what it sounds like at all.

I couldn't get past the 3rd minute. And god that transition was bad.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: KevShmev on May 02, 2014, 09:45:24 AM
You want bad transitions in a DT song?  Go listen to some of the jarring ones in Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence. 

Anyway, Light Fuse and Get Away is a really good song, and it has long has been one of my two favorites from this record.  3:48-3:52 (that little lightning fast breakdown before the 2nd chorus) is still one of the best DT moments ever.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: TAC on May 02, 2014, 09:52:02 AM
Love Kevin's lyrics in this song.  "Have you ever been used, or will this be the first time?"
Yeah, but "no pain no gain"?
Ouch.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: bosk1 on May 02, 2014, 10:23:49 AM
Ok, yes I know it has an appreciation thread, but it deserves a WTF PEOPLE thread too.

No, it really doesn't.  (1) As you pointed out, there is already a thread (which this one has now been merged with).  Please do not start duplicative threads.  (2) The tone of this thread is not appropriate for the forum.  People are entitled to like (or dislike) whatever they choose.  You can appreciate without attacking others who may disagree with you.

And on topic, and for the record, I like the song.  Not my favorite from the album, but not bad.  I rank it in the upper half.  It could perhaps be as high as #2 on the album if not for a few clunky things that don't work for me.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: bosk1 on May 02, 2014, 10:24:08 AM
Love Kevin's lyrics in this song.  "Have you ever been used, or will this be the first time?"
Yeah, but "no pain no gain"?
Ouch.


I know, right?  Who does that in a song? 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsqpKhzAg9A
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on May 02, 2014, 10:28:46 AM
Light Fuse And Get Away is my second favorite from WDADU.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: TheGreatPretender on May 02, 2014, 02:38:36 PM
Love Kevin's lyrics in this song.  "Have you ever been used, or will this be the first time?"
Yeah, but "no pain no gain"?
Ouch.

Actually, the correct lyrics are "No gain, no pain". Meaning, if you don't bother getting anything real out of it, you won't get hurt.
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on May 02, 2014, 08:43:58 PM
This Light Fuse thread pops up periodically, and once again I'll join with those defending this song.   Love the progressive elements and blend of styles - definitely a dramatic exploration of music circa 1989.   Seeing it live just about blew me away. 
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: billybobjoe1881 on May 02, 2014, 09:12:08 PM
I just listened to it, and payed attention to it for the first time, and it's a great song. 
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: Madman Shepherd on May 02, 2014, 10:27:43 PM
"I can see where this is going."  - Charlie Dominici's ex-girlfriend
Title: Re: Light Fuse and Get Away
Post by: TheAtliator on May 02, 2014, 10:39:37 PM
Actually, the correct lyrics are "No gain, no pain". Meaning, if you don't bother getting anything real out of it, you won't get hurt.

This. I think a lot of people miss out on the point of this song and write it off as clumsy, this lyric is kind of a symbol of that.

And okay Bosk, I get it. I'd still like to say, I want to specifically call it out as not only under-appreciated, but also not well understood and not given a fair chance by many people simply because of its obscurity; people don't even seem to know it well.