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Title: Korn Thread
Post by: Gadough on May 09, 2010, 02:31:04 PM
Korn were the first band I ever seriously got into. They are the reason I listen to rock and metal at all. I don't worship them like I did back when I was 13, and they probably wouldn't make it in my top 10 or even top 20 favorite bands now, but I still love and respect them for getting me into music. Plus, Fieldy is one of my favorite bassists.

I understand this may be met with some opposition from people here - that's fine, I expect more people on this board to hate them than like them. This is for people who like Korn to discuss them.  :smiley:

Starting with...the newly released single!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ0NefLweYI

And another new song that has been out for a while:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BukMP_qlhck&feature=related

Catchy, nice return to their roots, Jon sounds as good as he did back in '94...makes me pumped for the new album.
Title: Re: Korn Thread - Any Other Korn Fans Here?
Post by: ReaperKK on May 09, 2010, 02:40:13 PM
The new single is pretty good but I just kinda grew out of them. My interest stopped after Issues.
Title: Re: Korn Thread - Any Other Korn Fans Here?
Post by: PixelDream on May 09, 2010, 02:56:43 PM
I really liked 'Follow the Leader' when it came out, it was my first encounter with Korn (Freak on a Leash.. still a very good song, their biggest hit and also one of their best IMO).

Later I began to check out Issues (pretty good) and the first two albums (I like the s/t but Life is Peachy not so much).

They really lost me with 'Take a Look in the Mirror', 'See You On The Other Side' and 'Untitled'. Some good tracks, but mostly the same problems: OR style over substance, OR sounding like old Korn, but in a forced manner.

I really love Korn for their signature bass-heavy pounding style. Nonetheless, 'Untouchables' is by far my favorite. Good melodies, nice atmosphere, everything is just great on that record!

The new song makes me curious though, sounds pretty neat.
Title: Re: Korn Thread - Any Other Korn Fans Here?
Post by: Gadough on May 09, 2010, 03:28:15 PM
Nonetheless, 'Untouchables' is by far my favorite. Good melodies, nice atmosphere, everything is just great on that record!

Gotta agree with you on that one. That's probably the only Korn album where I like every song (with Hollow Life and Blame both being contenders for my favorite Korn song). It feels so full and complete.
Title: Re: Korn Thread - Any Other Korn Fans Here?
Post by: Volk9 on May 09, 2010, 03:52:37 PM
The only album I have is See you on the Other Side. I really like it and have no problems with it tbh.
Title: Re: Korn Thread - Any Other Korn Fans Here?
Post by: Arcaeus on May 09, 2010, 03:57:20 PM
The only album I have is See you on the Other Side. I really like it and have no problems with it tbh.
Title: Re: Korn Thread - Any Other Korn Fans Here?
Post by: Gadough on May 09, 2010, 04:04:03 PM
I think a large part of why See You... got poor reception is because the fanbase was still recovering from the shock of Head leaving, after having such a stable lineup for so long.

It's a decent record.
Title: Re: Korn Thread - Any Other Korn Fans Here?
Post by: kirbywelch92 on May 09, 2010, 04:44:42 PM
Freak on a Leash is a good song, otherwise I don't really care to hear more.
Title: Re: Korn Thread - Any Other Korn Fans Here?
Post by: bout to crash on May 09, 2010, 05:25:05 PM
Wow, I didn't even realize they had this many albums :lol
They were one of my favorite bands in middle school but I haven't listened to them in years. Couldn't get into Follow the Leader much, got Issues but that was where it ended.
Title: Re: Korn Thread - Any Other Korn Fans Here?
Post by: Sigz on May 09, 2010, 05:29:10 PM
My ex-girlfriend was a big fan, but I never really cared for them.
Title: Re: Korn Thread - Any Other Korn Fans Here?
Post by: black_biff_stadler on May 09, 2010, 07:36:10 PM
I got into them in '97 when LiP had been out for a little while after seeing the video for A.D.I.D.A.S and then realized I already liked Blind from hearing MTV use it as bumper music between segments in the past. After getting the first two albums from Columbia House*(that old dinosaur :lol) I quickly chose the s/t as my fave due to stronger efforts like Clown, Shoots and Ladders, and Fake.

Next, Follow the Leader came out and I listened to it at Blockbuster Music's kiosk and was blown away instantly at how creepily awesome It's On sounded and bought it pretty soon thereafter. Fell beyond in love with that album and adored songs like It's On, BBK, Dead Bodies Everywhere, and Justin(good cause naming it after a dying fan in the Make A Wish foundation.)

Issues came out and I wasn't impressed. Wake up was an isolated highlight amidst a sea of songs I liked but didn't love which was a bummer considering the momentum they had coming off FtL.

Untouchables restored my faith. Here to Stay is ominously heavy with that plodding intro riff and the other singles were all good choices which is something I hadn't been able to say since the s/t album.

After Untouchables, however, they kinda lost me for good but I really appreciate you making this thread since I went back and listened to Fake and now wanna delve back into them a little more tonight.






*A wonderful sale in which the deal was buy one, get one free, then get as many as you like for $3.99+tax+shipping. It wound up only being $6.64 per CD for all the ones that were $3.99 so I had a glorious 29-CD haul for only $190 which some of the members old enough to remember buying CDs for ALL of your music collection will agree was an absolute bargain.
Title: Re: Korn Thread - Any Other Korn Fans Here?
Post by: Gadough on May 09, 2010, 07:50:17 PM
Seems like Issues is where a lot of fans dropped off. I guess I can see why, it's got several filler tracks and the style switched up a bit, but I'd venture to call it their darkest album, so I've always wondered why fans didn't embrace it.

After Untouchables, however, they kinda lost me for good but I really appreciate you making this thread since I went back and listened to Fake and now wanna delve back into them a little more tonight.

No problem.  :tup You should definitely give Take a Look In the Mirror a listen. Easily their heaviest and one of their best.  :metal

Title: Re: Korn Thread - Any Other Korn Fans Here?
Post by: black_biff_stadler on May 09, 2010, 07:51:31 PM
should definitely give Take a Look In the Mirror a listen. Easily their heaviest and one of their best.  :metal



Is that the one with Y'all Want a Single?
Title: Re: Korn Thread - Any Other Korn Fans Here?
Post by: Gadough on May 09, 2010, 07:56:37 PM
should definitely give Take a Look In the Mirror a listen. Easily their heaviest and one of their best.  :metal



Is that the one with Y'all Want a Single?

.....Yes......

Trust me, don't judge the album based off of that song. So much good stuff to be found on it, like Right Now, Alive, Did My Time, Play Me featuring Nas, etc.
Title: Re: Korn Thread - Any Other Korn Fans Here?
Post by: OsMosis2259 on May 09, 2010, 08:12:31 PM
On the first listen to both of those new tracks, it seems like they are returning to their roots but something about it that sounds off...  In the production, Idk I feel the snare drum kinda sounds weird or something.  Otherwise, I'm looking to hear the new album
Title: Re: Korn Thread - Any Other Korn Fans Here?
Post by: black_biff_stadler on May 09, 2010, 09:43:31 PM
should definitely give Take a Look In the Mirror a listen. Easily their heaviest and one of their best.  :metal



Is that the one with Y'all Want a Single?

.....Yes......

Trust me, don't judge the album based off of that song. So much good stuff to be found on it, like Right Now, Alive, Did My Time, Play Me featuring Nas, etc.  

I'll get on it soon :tup
Title: Re: Korn Thread - Any Other Korn Fans Here?
Post by: Progmetty on May 09, 2010, 11:34:30 PM
I love me some occasional Korn to get some GRRRR out of my system.
Title: Re: Korn Thread - Any Other Korn Fans Here?
Post by: shadowfex on May 10, 2010, 01:14:13 AM
My interest stopped after Issues.
Title: Re: Korn Thread - Any Other Korn Fans Here?
Post by: wolfking on May 10, 2010, 04:21:04 AM
Korn were THE band for me in high school.  When I listened to the self titled, I found it so shocking yet so amazing at the same time, one of the best debuts ever.  Life is Peachy I had a soft spot for.  No Place to Hide and Good God are classics.  Follow the Leader again was a classic album.  It's On, Seed, BBK, Dead Bodies Everywhere, Got the Life, classic.

Issues is by far my favourite Korn album.  Such a dark, broody atmosphere all the way through, it just grabs me and holds me every time I listen to it. Falling Away from Me, Trash, U, Wake Up, Make Me Bad, Counting, an amazing album.  Never understood the dislike for it.

Untouchables was great also, Blame, Here to Stay, Thoughtless, great stuff.  The last 3 albums are a bit lackluster after the amazing run of albums Korn had.  The new single sounds interesting, hopefully a better album than the untitled.
Title: Re: Korn Thread - Any Other Korn Fans Here?
Post by: Darkes7 on May 10, 2010, 07:31:21 AM
I guess I shouldn't post here... Probably the only band with an actual discography I almost hate (and the reason is the universally loved debut, not anything later).
Title: Re: Korn Thread - Any Other Korn Fans Here?
Post by: moffatt on September 22, 2010, 01:26:26 PM
This thread needs a serious bump.

I saw Korn on saturday at ozzfest, and they are definately one of the best live bands I've ever seen. They were on top form, played a great set too.

Their new album is definately one of their bests. Major improvement from the previous two. Pop a Pill is one of my favourite korn tracks, seeing it live was soo good.
Title: Re: Korn Thread - Any Other Korn Fans Here?
Post by: EPICVIEW on September 22, 2010, 01:37:13 PM
I liked their first three albums best
Title: Re: Korn Thread - Any Other Korn Fans Here?
Post by: Gadough on September 22, 2010, 03:05:18 PM
I'm starting to really appreciate See You On The Other Side, much more than when it first came out. Solid album.
Title: Re: Korn Thread - Any Other Korn Fans Here?
Post by: sneakyblueberry on September 22, 2010, 05:40:49 PM
Self titled was all the rage when I was like, 5 or something.  I really liked it.  To my young mind it was kind of like the Eminem of nu metal.
Title: Re: Korn Thread - Any Other Korn Fans Here?
Post by: wolfking on September 23, 2010, 06:16:22 AM
I tried to like the new album, but it really didn't do it for me.  Fear is a Place to Live, The Past and Are YOu Ready to Live are amazing.  Most of the other songs are just too plain and boring for me.  Maybe I should give it another spin.

With all the comparing, it just doesn't have 'extreme' moments that the first two albums have.  The first album had; 'Ball Tongue chorus, Clown, the darkness of Need To, the end of Divine, the lyrical arrangement or Shoots and Ladders, Faget, and of course Daddy.'

Life is Peachy had; 'Twist, Good God chorus, Kunts, ADIDAS and Kill You.  Plus the dark atmosphere throughout the whole album is immense. 

The new album just didn't have moments like this.  really only Are you Ready to Live is the song that slightly reminds me of the old times.  Korn will never produce these moments again.  The bonus tracks also were just horrible.  It's a step in the right direction for them, but no where near the same league as the first two.
Title: Re: Korn Thread - Any Other Korn Fans Here?
Post by: Kosmo on September 23, 2010, 06:37:24 AM
My friend really likes them, it's the only rock/metal band wich i didn't introduce to him, i'm generally more into melodic stuff.
But i really listened to a lot at one point but then it just kind of..stopped.

But i still listen to a few of their albums on occasions:
Untouchables (Best them)
Untitled (Yes Untitled, not self titled  :laugh:)
Issues
Title: Re: Korn Thread - Any Other Korn Fans Here?
Post by: Zantera on September 23, 2010, 07:06:17 AM
I really like the unplugged-album, but the rest is the type of music i listened to 5-6 years ago, and the type of music i have no interest in anymore.
Title: Re: Korn Thread - Any Other Korn Fans Here?
Post by: Ben_Jamin on September 23, 2010, 01:56:02 PM
I acutally like Issues - See You On The Other Side better than the first 3.
Title: Re: Korn Thread - Any Other Korn Fans Here?
Post by: Gadough on September 23, 2010, 02:17:25 PM
Korn will never produce these moments again.

No, of course not. It's silly to expect them to becuase they're not a bunch of pissed-off, broke, angsty teenagers anymore. Their surroundings and emotions is what fueled the first few albums. Now they're middle-aged millionaires. Any fan who honestly expects them to recapture those old feelings is asking and expecting too much out of them.

That being said, I love the new album and I think it's the closest they can possibly get to their old sound at this point. Definitely worth checking out for any Korn fan.

Untitled (Yes Untitled, not self titled  :laugh:)

Gross.
Title: Re: Korn Thread - Any Other Korn Fans Here?
Post by: wolfking on September 23, 2010, 11:49:17 PM
Korn will never produce these moments again.

No, of course not. It's silly to expect them to becuase they're not a bunch of pissed-off, broke, angsty teenagers anymore. Their surroundings and emotions is what fueled the first few albums. Now they're middle-aged millionaires. Any fan who honestly expects them to recapture those old feelings is asking and expecting too much out of them.

Don't tell me that, tell the band.   I never expected them to have those sorts of moments again, it was the band that made everyone into believing that they were in the same sort of head space that they were in the first two albums. 
Title: Re: Korn Thread - Any Other Korn Fans Here?
Post by: Kosmo on September 24, 2010, 09:50:14 AM
What is with the general hate towards Untitled?  :laugh:

Title: Re: Korn Thread - Any Other Korn Fans Here?
Post by: zerogravityfat on September 24, 2010, 10:07:31 AM
follow the leader is a great album, after that it's a bit repetitive.
Title: Re: Korn Thread - Any Other Korn Fans Here?
Post by: moffatt on September 24, 2010, 10:09:51 AM
I'm loving Falling Away From Me atm, "Beating me down, down, into the ground" such awesome lyrics.
Title: Re: Korn Thread - Any Other Korn Fans Here?
Post by: Gorille85 on September 24, 2010, 10:10:05 AM
Used to be a fan but it was a long time ago...I'll have to check them out again I guess.
Title: Re: Korn Thread - Any Other Korn Fans Here?
Post by: moffatt on September 24, 2010, 10:10:57 AM
I would definately check out their new album, much more like their first two albums.
Title: Re: Korn Thread - Any Other Korn Fans Here?
Post by: Zook on September 24, 2010, 12:53:49 PM
The album I listened to Most from Korn was Take A Look In The Mirror. I enjoyed the heavyness of it. Of course it has some shit like the Nas song and Y'all Wanna Single but from what I remember, the other songs were pretty cool. Don't give two shits about this band anymore though. Other than a select few singles, I never cared much for them.
Title: Re: Korn Thread - Any Other Korn Fans Here?
Post by: Ben_Jamin on September 24, 2010, 01:58:41 PM
Thoughtless and Alone I Break have this cool weird mood to it that I like. Something about Untouchables' mood and atmosphere. I might be the only one who really doesn't like their older stuff, I prefer Issues onward. I still like songs from those albums just not as much
Title: Re: Korn Thread - Any Other Korn Fans Here?
Post by: Gadough on September 24, 2010, 04:43:10 PM
What is with the general hate towards Untitled?  :laugh:



Korn have released 8 good albums and 1 bad one. Untitled is the bad one.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Kosmo on September 25, 2010, 12:52:45 AM
Okay..

And the reasons are..?

Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: moffatt on September 26, 2010, 07:55:21 AM
I'm so annoyed their gig at southampton guildhall is sold out. Hope they do a proper UK tour next year.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Gadough on September 26, 2010, 11:30:27 AM
Okay..

And the reasons are..?



1. It just sounds bad.

That's it. For some reason it doesn't click with me at all.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Kosmo on September 26, 2010, 11:51:39 AM
Fair enough..  ::)
Title: Re: Korn Thread - Any Other Korn Fans Here?
Post by: Gadough on September 26, 2010, 11:52:45 AM
Of course it has some shit like the Nas song

WAT

That song is awesome. Nas kills it.
Title: Re: Korn Thread - Any Other Korn Fans Here?
Post by: Arcaeus on September 26, 2010, 02:10:26 PM
Of course it has some shit like the Nas song

WAT

That song is awesome. Nas kills it.

Don't bother, Zook has the worst opinions when it comes to anything.

Nas is awesome.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Zook on September 26, 2010, 03:31:02 PM
Of course I could say the same thing about you.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Kosmo on September 27, 2010, 09:24:44 AM
No, really. Nas makes the song what it is.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: moffatt on September 27, 2010, 10:19:33 AM
Issues is slowly becoming my favourite Korn album :metal
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Ben_Jamin on September 27, 2010, 10:31:55 AM
Yup Korn at their prime.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: moffatt on September 30, 2010, 12:17:12 PM
Uber Time running into Oildale is so fucking good. Riff in Oildale is just :metal
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Gorille85 on September 30, 2010, 12:19:40 PM
Issues is slowly becoming my favourite Korn album :metal
IF YOU THINK THAT MAYBE YOU HAVE SOME "ISSUES" YOURSELF AMIRITE OLOLOL
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Gadough on September 30, 2010, 02:53:04 PM
OLOLOLOLOL

No, but he's right. Issues is absolutely fantastic.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: wolfking on October 01, 2010, 05:06:15 AM
Issues is slowly becoming my favourite Korn album :metal

Issues is my favourite and I'd consider it their best work.  Tremendous, mature, great songs all the way through.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: wolfking on October 01, 2010, 05:07:33 AM
Issues is slowly becoming my favourite Korn album :metal
IF YOU THINK THAT MAYBE YOU HAVE SOME "ISSUES" YOURSELF AMIRITE OLOLOL

No, you couldn't be more wrong.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Gorille85 on October 01, 2010, 10:00:01 AM
Issues is slowly becoming my favourite Korn album :metal
IF YOU THINK THAT MAYBE YOU HAVE SOME "ISSUES" YOURSELF AMIRITE OLOLOL

No, you couldn't be more wrong.

I was joking.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: SPNKr on August 14, 2011, 11:15:54 PM
Bumping because I listened to them for the first time last week, and now I'm on I think the fourth listen of their debut. KoRn's a good album.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Gadough on August 14, 2011, 11:27:46 PM
Damn right it is!

If it's all you've listened to though, you definitely need to listen to Follow the Leader, Issues, and Untouchables.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: SPNKr on August 14, 2011, 11:37:35 PM
Well yes my intention is to attempt to go through their discog, once time allows.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Bill Carson on August 15, 2011, 05:08:14 AM
There's only so much whining I can take and 4 albums was about right for me.
However they did give metal a shot in the arm that it needed, really liked them originally but it all started to sound the same after Issues...and yes I really like Issues as an album.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: wolfking on August 15, 2011, 05:18:00 AM
Bumping because I listened to them for the first time last week, and now I'm on I think the fourth listen of their debut. KoRn's a good album.

Such an amazing album.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: SPNKr on August 16, 2011, 04:15:11 AM
On to Life Is Peachy tonight, and it's a pretty cool album. Definitely an evolved breed of the debut considering this album set foot into waist deep nu-metal territory.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Ben_Jamin on August 16, 2011, 09:37:47 AM
Wait Till you hit the party album that is Follow The Leader.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Summers on August 16, 2011, 10:20:33 AM
Never owned an album but love the stuff I've heard over the years.  Gotta love Jonathan Davis though, always loved his work on Queen of the Damned which I've been into since I was an angsty teen.  Angsty teens seem to like QOTD.                        
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Ben_Jamin on August 16, 2011, 10:23:37 AM
Yup QOTD was amazing. It sucks he couldn't sing on the Soundtrack and Film, because his vocals on Forsaken are 10x more haunting than David Dramin(sp?) From Disturbed, and the Orgy guy.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: fibreoptix on August 16, 2011, 10:24:58 AM
So, according to Wikipedia, KoRn's next album 'X' sounds like it might be somewhat of a nu-metal/dubstep crossover affair. How does everyone feel about this? Just to take the conversation in a bit of a new direction. :)
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: black_biff_stadler on August 16, 2011, 10:52:56 AM
^While I may be disgusted I sure as shit can't say I'm surprised. They should probably quit the drugs so they can stop soiling the legacy they barely even had in the first place and merely live off the millions they've likely already made. Untouchables sure seems like their proper swansong imo.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Nel on August 16, 2011, 11:35:38 AM
So, according to Wikipedia, KoRn's next album 'X' sounds like it might be somewhat of a nu-metal/dubstep crossover affair. How does everyone feel about this? Just to take the conversation in a bit of a new direction. :)

Fine. Whatever. As long as it's good, or at least has a few catchy songs, I don't care what they breed their genre with. Korn III may have been the most awful album I heard last year. Hell, even the untitled album had two tracks I liked, but last years had nothing.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Gadough on August 16, 2011, 02:49:42 PM
I like the song they did with Skrillex. It wasn't great, but it was enjoyable. I think a dubstep crossover album just might work. Their style is already suited for it. So why not. They have every right to experiment, let them do it.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: wolfking on August 16, 2011, 04:27:49 PM
I like the song they did with Skrillex. It wasn't great, but it was enjoyable. I think a dubstep crossover album just might work. Their style is already suited for it. So why not. They have every right to experiment, let them do it.

This.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: fibreoptix on August 16, 2011, 04:37:33 PM
I like the song they did with Skrillex. It wasn't great, but it was enjoyable. I think a dubstep crossover album just might work. Their style is already suited for it. So why not. They have every right to experiment, let them do it.

Oh, no no, I agree completely. I'm one of the fanbase who actually enjoyed Untitled a hell of a lot. I thought it was a bold experiment and it came off really well... and in the same spirit I'm actually looking forward to hearing what this thing sounds like. I thought Get Up was incredibly catchy. I can see how a lot of fans would look at this with a wary eye, though.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Ben_Jamin on August 16, 2011, 07:53:47 PM
I enjoyed Hold On. And Oildale kicked ass live. Their new song with Skrillex was pretty good too, although the music video made me laugh.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Kotowboy on August 17, 2011, 10:01:47 AM
Korn III was hilariously bad.

Ross Robinson should not be allowed in a studio.

Trading Standards should take him to court just for calling himself a " producer ".

Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Gadough on August 17, 2011, 12:35:44 PM
I can see how a lot of fans would look at this with a wary eye, though.

Oh yes, certainly. I am as well. I'm very cautiously optimistic about this dubstep album.

@Koto: Ross is overrated, but he was integral to their early sound. You can't really deny that.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Summers on August 18, 2011, 04:10:48 AM
Yup QOTD was amazing. It sucks he couldn't sing on the Soundtrack and Film, because his vocals on Forsaken are 10x more haunting than David Dramin(sp?) From Disturbed, and the Orgy guy.

Have you seen the Sirius Radio sessions?  Pretty awesome - Forsaken https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=et8CczkuiSU
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Gadough on August 27, 2011, 08:35:52 AM
New album is called "The Path to Totality" and will be released on November 15.

https://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=162499
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Kotowboy on August 27, 2011, 06:26:31 PM
 :lol  Korn on the Dub

Just when you thought that "band" couldn't sink any lower than "Korn III"  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: wolfking on August 28, 2011, 05:46:58 PM
New album is called "The Path to Totality" and will be released on November 15.

https://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=162499

Not a fan of DJ style electronic music in the slightest, but I'm keen to pick this up.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Gadough on August 28, 2011, 06:16:56 PM
As usual Wolf, I agree with you. I'm definitely gonna give it a chance because I think Korn can make this work. But I'm not expecting to be blown away. I'm not expecting much.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: wolfking on August 28, 2011, 06:30:08 PM
As usual Wolf, I agree with you. I'm definitely gonna give it a chance because I think Korn can make this work. But I'm not expecting to be blown away. I'm not expecting much.

Yeah mate exactly.  Get Up as we said earlier was a catchy little piece, but overall I'm in it for something different, and who knows, it might work really well.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: SPNKr on August 28, 2011, 07:22:24 PM
I don't like the song. i think its shit.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: zxlkho on August 29, 2011, 11:56:34 AM
I don't like the song. i think its shit.

same with the band, album, etc... especially now days
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Gadough on August 29, 2011, 11:58:28 AM
I have to admit, Korn is getting hard to defend. But I still like 'em.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: zxlkho on August 29, 2011, 11:59:50 AM
I listened to the back in the day. They were pretty alright, but now I consider them to be a running joke.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: black_biff_stadler on August 29, 2011, 01:52:14 PM
I listened to the back in the day. They were pretty alright, but now I consider them to be a running joke.

+1. I consider them a victim of the times passing them by. What they were doing in '94 was entertaining but nothing that Prong and KYUSS weren't already hinting at for years with the whole groove-before-shred mentality. They just wore prettier clothes and looked better on posters in the minds of teenagers at the time. That aside, they were totally enjoyable for most of their releases through Untouchables. After that I couldn't form a thorough opinion because I literally couldn't make it halfway through an album before realizing:

Head, Munky, and Silveria-same old song and dance

Fieldy-never gonna learn how to make even 40% of his notes actual pitches rather than slapping muted strings (I'm sorry but even for a band of Korn's simplicity this is apalling)

Jon-blew through his vocal chords by never learning proper technique (where the fuck is Melissa Cross when you need her?) then attempted to learn how to sing traditionally. One decade in and this is STILL a work in progress?


Nowadays, most metal bands are back to shredding and are comfortably heavier than Korn ever was so there is just very little about their music that is dynamically captivating any more. Fear Factory, although much better imo, kinda seems to have fallen into this same dilemma.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: zxlkho on August 29, 2011, 01:53:53 PM
Still though, the best nu-metal band to this day is Deftones.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: black_biff_stadler on August 29, 2011, 02:47:05 PM
Still though, the best nu-metal band to this day is Deftones.

Nah, Mudvayne. They've had  a bum album or two but LD50, The End of All Things to Come, and a fair bit of Lost and Found are damn good. Also Ryan Martinie and Matt McDonough also have more raw ability and groove than just about any other band to ever be associated with nu-metal.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: zxlkho on August 29, 2011, 02:49:31 PM
Mudvayne is pretty awesome, but I wouldn't think of them as a nu-metal band first.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: black_biff_stadler on August 29, 2011, 03:03:29 PM
Mudvayne is pretty awesome, but I wouldn't think of them as a nu-metal band first.

Word. More of a default thing since it becomes an "if not 'that', then what?" scenario. They're certainly not rock.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Gadough on September 01, 2011, 01:21:07 PM
Mudvayne is a good band. I love Chad's vocals and Ryan kills it on bass.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: black_biff_stadler on September 01, 2011, 01:39:59 PM
^Totally. Matt McDonough is a spectacular drummer too. Crushing style while never abusing double bass pulses since the vast majority of his double bass work is legit rhythms and not just 16th-note pulses like in most metal. It's sad they don't have a good guitarist cuz while Greg does an okay job at times he really seems to hold the band back from being a truly magnificent band.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Gadough on September 01, 2011, 01:51:01 PM
I agree. Greg is definitely the weakest leak. His guitar is the reason so many people labeled Mudvayne "just another nu metal band." He's not bad though.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: black_biff_stadler on September 01, 2011, 02:13:51 PM
I almost consider him bad just for being a sort of one trick pony. Too much of the old 0-2-3 (fretwise) power chord progression in drop-C (or drop-B if we're talking LD50.) It almost comes off like he has no ideas of his own and decides to play rhythm for the rhythm section. If they ever had a falling out and replaced him I'd have to celebrate with a Twix.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Gadough on September 01, 2011, 02:25:43 PM
I remember a rumor few years ago that he was leaving; it got to the point where he had to do an interview to end the rumors. I didn't lose any sleep over the possibility.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: black_biff_stadler on September 01, 2011, 03:23:05 PM
I got their self-titled the other day and it's the closest they've gotten to the good ol' days of LD50/TEoATtC with anything they've released since TEoATtC. Greg even "tries" solo-ing but they're usually only 5-10 second runs that seem more like a guitar fill where he'll have a quick cluster of notes to get me excited thinking something cool's coming up and then it gets boring and uninspired very quickly.

Really sucks that they'll likely never reach their full potential since it seems like Greg's a poor man's Dan Donegan (Disturbed.) By this I mean that Donegan gets a little better each album while still failing to be all that interesting or impressive with his leads. It's been eleven years since The Sickness so you'd think since he's gotten a little shreddier with every release since 10,000 Fists that being a capable and creative lead player would be something of a priority to him but maybe he just feels like taking the smoke and mirrors approach by playing anything remotely speedy just to get applause from fans that aren't all that concerned with legit lead skills.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Volk9 on September 02, 2011, 08:43:24 AM
Still though, the best nu-metal band to this day is Deftones.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Kosmo on September 04, 2011, 06:53:28 AM
Still though, the best nu-metal band to this day is Deftones.
True story.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Gorille85 on September 04, 2011, 07:17:07 AM
This new album sounds interesting! Maybe I'll check it out...
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: SPNKr on September 11, 2011, 09:04:05 PM
punk ass sissy im a freak
punk ass sissy im a frEAK
punk ass sissy im a freak
punk ass sissy im a frEAK
punk ass sissy im a freak
punk ass sissy im a frEAK
punk ass sissy im a freak
punk ass sissy im a frEAK
punk ass sissy im a freak
punk ass sissy im a frEAK
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Gadough on September 11, 2011, 09:10:17 PM
Not a fan of that song TBH, but that part is catchy.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: SystematicThought on September 11, 2011, 09:11:00 PM
What Korn song was it that had Terry Bozzio on it?
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Gadough on September 11, 2011, 09:12:30 PM
I think he did some songs on the Untitled album. Or he just toured with them. I don't remember.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: TheLordOfTheStrings on September 12, 2011, 01:43:44 AM
1990's Korn when Head was still in the band > 2000's Korn with the dudes wearing the rabbit masks
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: wolfking on September 12, 2011, 04:49:33 AM
I think he did some songs on the Untitled album. Or he just toured with them. I don't remember.

No, he just did about 6 or 7 songs on Untitled, he never toured with them.  He either left or he was fired because he wanted more money or something.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Kotowboy on September 12, 2011, 06:03:49 AM
1990's Korn when Head was still in the band > 2000's Korn with the dudes wearing the rabbit masks

Head > Korn

 David Silveria > New Drummer.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: TheLordOfTheStrings on September 12, 2011, 09:36:35 AM
1990's Korn when Head was still in the band > 2000's Korn with the dudes wearing the rabbit masks

Head > Korn

 David Silveria > New Drummer.
yes.




On another note, a friend of my uncle's somehow acquired Korn's original tour bus/trailer thing. He called it the Korn Koach. My uncle used to kick it in there.. lucky bastard.  :hat
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: chrisbDTM on September 21, 2011, 12:48:24 PM
so yea

head > korn has been confirmed


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sODDPWkVzXQ

quality sounds better here: https://www.damntheradio.com/fans/share/attributes/421210&share_id=e8e4c9d5-b4d6-b5b4-a677-547c75abd4d2&src=nf_player
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: black_biff_stadler on September 21, 2011, 05:54:01 PM
so yea

head > korn has been confirmed


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sODDPWkVzXQ

quality sounds better here: https://www.damntheradio.com/fans/share/attributes/421210&share_id=e8e4c9d5-b4d6-b5b4-a677-547c75abd4d2&src=nf_player

Sounds decent. The vocals sound way better than the atrocity that was Jon Davis trying to "find his new voice" once he realized he'd destroyed his vocal chords by likely using a very amateur technique.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: wolfking on October 30, 2011, 04:54:40 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUOlc_j4rMA&feature=feedu

This is pretty damn good if you ask me.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Zook on October 30, 2011, 05:37:13 AM
Take A Look In The Mirror was the only album I could get into. Dig and World So Cold were the only songs I liked, and Dan Donegan hasn't gotten better with each album. He keeps playing the Stricken solo over and over. Deftones are awful.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Ben_Jamin on October 30, 2011, 10:46:54 AM
Yeah Mudvayne is tons better than those other bands./off topic                                     
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: black_biff_stadler on November 01, 2011, 10:28:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUOlc_j4rMA&feature=feedu

This is pretty damn good if you ask me.

If you could make it only Korn's music, I'd probably like it. From the two songs I've ever heard with Skrillex's involvement, either as the artist or as a collaborator (this one and his own song that had the video for it played during the new Beavis and Butt-Head episode), I gotta say his stuff just sounds like a warmed-over version of late-90s electronica with a whole bunch of wtf chirps and squeals thrown in. There must be more to his sound than the little I've heard because, even as bad as music is these days, I'd be surprised if he earned his place in mainstream culture by being that bad of a one trick pony.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Gadough on November 05, 2011, 11:16:09 AM
(https://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/381932_10150456534980761_21230560760_10675567_745591910_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Progmetty on November 05, 2011, 11:05:57 PM
I've been waiting for the full album since they released Get Up.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: wolfking on November 06, 2011, 02:57:10 AM
I've been waiting for the full album since they released Get Up.

Yeah, comes with a DVD of the full show they did in the cane fields thing too which is a nice bonus.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Phoenix87x on December 01, 2011, 11:10:04 AM
Well, now that they are streaming the new album, I just finished listening to it... and I feel like it could have been a lot better.

I was really ready to embrace this with open arms and love it, but I think I set my expectations a little too high, after really loving the first 2 singles. Sure, its decent, but it could have been really brilliant.

Regardless I think I'm going to pick it up and give it some time to grow on me.

The stream is off Blabbermouth, by the way.

Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: NocturnalConspiracy on December 01, 2011, 11:19:39 AM
https://sputnikmusic.com/review/46804/Korn-The-Path-of-Totality/

i saw this review and thought it was funny. it's also true.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: fibreoptix on December 01, 2011, 01:16:20 PM
Narcissistic Cannibal has a fuckin' awesome chorus. Will be buying.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: TheLordOfTheStrings on December 02, 2011, 12:02:30 PM
Jonathan Davis recently claimed that Korn invented Dub Step.. if this is true, I take back everything I've said about Korn, and I'm burning my CD's.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: WebRaider on December 02, 2011, 12:51:43 PM
I like the new release much better than III. Korn just has to keep doing their thing. Hater's certainly pile up fast. If you don't like the band I can understand but the band is much more varied in their styles than people think. If you listen through their catalog the band obviously maintains their sound for the most part but mixes in many different styles. The new release is another example and while I'm not a mega dubstep fan.. the addition of that in this album isn't a stretch.

Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Gadough on December 02, 2011, 12:54:33 PM
Jonathan Davis recently claimed that Korn invented Dub Step.. if this is true, I take back everything I've said about Korn, and I'm burning my CD's.

Source?
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Kosmo on December 02, 2011, 01:05:25 PM
I think he means this interview.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qWm61ssUDHE#! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qWm61ssUDHE#!)
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Zoom E on December 03, 2011, 05:19:34 PM
This is a quote from the Classic Rock magazine website:

Quote
Finally, something of a shock. Korn claimed that The Path Of Totality (Roadrunner) was their journey into dubstep and electronic music. But in actuality, itís more about progressive metal than anything else. It appears Korn might well have found a way forward.

I haven't checked out any of the new album yet. Does anyone who has heard it feel it's accurate to call it prog metal? Anyway, I am intrigued and will definitely be giving this a listen.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: black_biff_stadler on December 03, 2011, 05:20:33 PM
ITT: Korn learns how to string skip in 255/256
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Gadough on December 04, 2011, 08:16:01 PM
This is a quote from the Classic Rock magazine website:

Quote
Finally, something of a shock. Korn claimed that The Path Of Totality (Roadrunner) was their journey into dubstep and electronic music. But in actuality, itís more about progressive metal than anything else. It appears Korn might well have found a way forward.

I haven't checked out any of the new album yet. Does anyone who has heard it feel it's accurate to call it prog metal? Anyway, I am intrigued and will definitely be giving this a listen.

That's laughably inaccurate.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: E.S. on December 04, 2011, 08:32:16 PM
Not progressive metal in the sense that it's full of long songs, widdly wanky solos and cheesy lyrics about hobbits or counts in Tuscany over a time signature only a mathematician could understand.

Progressive as in the true meaning of the word? Absolutely.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: wkiml on May 09, 2012, 10:29:27 AM
Has anyone here seen them live?

Taking my son tomorrow night (his choice not mine) and just want to know what too expect
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Ben_Jamin on May 09, 2012, 10:47:04 AM
Has anyone here seen them live?

Taking my son tomorrow night (his choice not mine) and just want to know what too expect

Just a good live show. I'm not good at describing things.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: OsMosis2259 on May 09, 2012, 11:33:40 AM
Has anyone here seen them live?

Taking my son tomorrow night (his choice not mine) and just want to know what too expect

It'll just be a fun live show. There will be some most pitting too in the heavier tracks.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Gadough on May 09, 2012, 11:47:35 AM
Jonathan Davis will be saying fuck a lot, I'm sure. :lol
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Gadough on May 10, 2012, 09:26:37 AM
https://legacy.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=173809

Quote
KORN was joined onstage by ex-guitarist Brian "Head" Welch  last Saturday (May 5) at the Carolina Rebellion festival in Rockingham, North Carolina, marking the first time in seven years that KORN  played with Welch, who left the group in 2005. The event, which electrified KORN fans everywhere, has naturally sparked talk of a full reunion with Welch to record and tour. But guitarist James "Munky" Shaffer told The Pulse Of Radio that the band isn't rushing into anything. "The whole thing needs to be approached very delicately, because it's such a fragile thing," he said. "It's just something that has to be super well-planned and it has to come naturally. And our experience with him on Saturday has all started from a positive place, and it wasn't forced and it was just natural. So I think if everything optimistically runs like that, that's all I can hope for. I'm really happy just to reconnect with my old friend."

Welch joined the band onstage to perform its classic song "Blind". According to The Pulse Of Radio, Shaffer later said that Saturday night's reunion was the first contact he had with Welch since his former bandmate left the KORN lineup.

(https://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/soulflypremiere/kornwithhead2.jpg)

(https://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/soulflypremiere/kornwithhead3.jpg)

.............

:caffeine:
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: WebRaider on May 10, 2012, 04:03:14 PM
Show was in my hometown. Was a pretty great moment.


(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/559447_456561724359302_199165336765610_2014153_452406366_n.jpg)

I hope at the very least they can make amends with each other on a personal level. It's always a good thing (Mustaine/Metallica type deal) to make peace whether you move on or get back together.


Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: wolfking on May 10, 2012, 04:07:12 PM
AFAIK, they have always been fine on a personal level.  I think I remember an interview with Head and him saying that they have been in contact and at least talking for a while.  This is a good sign re the reunion.  I don't see David getting involved but I'm happy to keep Ray.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Gadough on May 10, 2012, 04:08:03 PM
Show was in my hometown. Was a pretty great moment.


(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/559447_456561724359302_199165336765610_2014153_452406366_n.jpg)

What a beautiful picture. Thank you.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: wkiml on May 11, 2012, 05:45:00 AM



Setlist

Old and Rarities
1.Divine 
2.Predictable 
3.No Place to Hide 
4.Good God 
(preceded by Porno Creep Jam)
New Album
5.Narcissistic Cannibal
  6.Kill Mercy Within
 7.Chaos Lives in Everything 
8.My Wall 
9.Get Up! 
10.Way Too Far 
Greatest Hits
11.Here to Stay 
12.Freak on a Leash 
13.Falling Away From Me 
14.Another Brick in the Wall 
(Pink Floyd cover)
Encore:
15.Shoots and Ladders / One 
16.Got the Life 
(with Drum Solo afterwards)
17.Blind 

Good show sold out but I am way to old for this shit...standing for 6 hours had my back and legs cramping by the time the night was over
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Gadough on May 11, 2012, 04:54:33 PM
Not a bad setlist. They opened with Divine? That's....interesting.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: wolfking on May 11, 2012, 05:03:31 PM
That's a good setlist.  Those first 4 songs are simply amazing, and Divine has always been one of my favs.  Nothing from 3 which is interseting though as is was suppose to be their return to form album, which we all know it wasn't.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Kotowboy on May 11, 2012, 07:47:37 PM
^ Korn III was a terrible terrible album. You can hear some good ideas in the songs - but absolute clueless no-talent hack "producer"

Ross Robinson has removed all the hooks and grooves and done his thing of " pick the worst takes because theyre the most honest"

bullshit.

The man cannot make a good sounding record. Iowa by SLipKnot is a fucking mess with bad playing , spill and lack of clarity all over the shop.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Gadough on May 11, 2012, 07:54:09 PM
I disagree with everything you just said. :tup
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Kotowboy on May 11, 2012, 07:56:21 PM
 :tup Oh thanks !







It's because I don't like puppies isn't it ? :neverusethis:
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Nel on May 11, 2012, 09:34:50 PM
Yeah, nothing on Korn III does anything for me. It's just really weak material all throughout. Surprisingly, I think The Path Of Totality was a massive step up, particularly Chaos Lives In Everything. Love that song.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: WebRaider on May 11, 2012, 10:12:58 PM
Yeah, nothing on Korn III does anything for me. It's just really weak material all throughout. Surprisingly, I think The Path Of Totality was a massive step up, particularly Chaos Lives In Everything. Love that song.



I have to agree. III was a major let down to me and the newest release greatly exceeded my expectations.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Gadough on August 09, 2012, 01:05:29 PM
Posted on Korn's Facebook page.

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/480610_10151171960105761_338329526_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Nel on August 09, 2012, 02:23:50 PM
welp, she turned out cute.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: black_biff_stadler on August 11, 2012, 12:30:55 AM
Now we just need her in a hot catholic school uniform since I wouldn't recommend using the one from the album cover on a grownup. Too unflattering and weird.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: wolfking on August 12, 2012, 03:26:41 AM
Damn, she's beautiful.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Gadough on August 13, 2012, 03:50:11 AM
Yeah, I'd like to swing with her if you know what I mean olol
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: wolfking on August 13, 2012, 04:45:18 AM
Yeah, I'd like to swing with her if you know what I mean olol

(https://lh3.ggpht.com/-0mzN_FZnycM/UA7nhFdkFBI/AAAAAAAABWY/c0R2jzeHSwI/Original%252520Oh%252520You%252521%25255B5%25255D.jpg)
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Gadough on August 13, 2012, 04:49:45 AM
(https://puu.sh/USgu)
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: wolfking on August 13, 2012, 04:53:27 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: black_biff_stadler on August 13, 2012, 05:25:32 AM
Well played Drewcifer :lol
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Pelata on August 13, 2012, 08:46:17 AM
My son picked up some Korn CDs not too long ago in one of our used CD excursions. While playing them on the way home, I found that Korn was not quite as godawful as I remembered.  :lol

It's nothing I'd go out of my way to listen to, but it wasn't bad.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: OsMosis2259 on January 21, 2013, 01:39:09 PM
So Head (Korn ex-guitarist) has an album coming out tomorrow with his band titled Love and Death. He is the main songwriter and also is the vocalist. You can listen to the album-stream right here:

Cool modern production and it grooves pretty hard like the old Korn days in my opinion.

https://www.billboard.com/new-releases/love-and-death-album-premiere-between-here-1008091562.story#/new-releases/love-and-death-album-premiere-between-here-1008091562.story
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Gadough on January 21, 2013, 02:43:58 PM
Head's solo material just goes to show how important he was to their early sound. He's playing a handful of Korn shows in Europe this summer, so here's to hoping he eventually rejoins.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Kotowboy on January 21, 2013, 02:52:57 PM
Ray Luzier > KoRn > Burned to Death > Limp Bizkit.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Nel on December 04, 2013, 01:42:57 AM
So... bought the deluxe version of The Paradigm Shift when it came out in October. Deluxe version came with a code for a "free" shirt from the website. Spent an hour looking on the store site for a place to input the code, and eventually had to look on a completely separate fansite to figure out the web address for the code. So yeah, great interface, Korn store. Put in the code. Shipping and handling + tax brings the "free" shirt from $0 to about $9. Fine, fuck it, I roll with it, enter my shipping info, get the receipt email. 7-10 shipping days.

That was two months ago now. I just remembered that I ordered the damn thing while going through my emails (of course I forgot, it's a fucking Korn shirt), and replied asking what the fuck happened. I wouldn't really care, but I was still charged $9. Give me my shirt I'll never wear!


...Album's alright too. Personally prefer the dubstep album, but this one's certainly better than Korn III: Remember Who You Are.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: wolfking on December 04, 2013, 04:03:37 AM
I got the deluxe version too, but I never noticed the free t-shirt.  Might have to look more closely.  I wasn't too keen on the album.  It's a pretty standard affair.  The first two tracks were excellent but everything after that was just okay.  I probably would prefer the debstep album too.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Nel on December 04, 2013, 11:17:17 AM
Well, some of the Best Buy versions have their own exclusive T-Shirt in the box, but the one I bought was just the digipack that came with a small little piece of paper with a download code.

I agree too. The first two tracks are pretty cool, but I can't really remember the rest of the album for the life of me.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: wolfking on December 04, 2013, 06:48:12 PM
I remember the bonus tracks being better than a lot of the actual album tracks.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Nel on December 04, 2013, 08:40:06 PM
They emailed me back. Apparently I missed the part of the receipt that says "6-8 business weeks" even though it clearly says 7-10 shipping days. Ah well. Guess I'll wait. At least they emailed me back.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: wolfking on December 04, 2013, 08:54:52 PM
6-8 business weeks?  :rollin  What the hell?!  Oh well, at least you may still get it.  Still need to check my copy.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Nel on December 04, 2013, 09:10:40 PM
That's what the email back says, I swear.  :lol I'll give it three more weeks before I bug them again. But the receipt email mentions that nowhere. I feel like the store team is just making shit up to cover their ass.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: OsMosis2259 on December 04, 2013, 10:39:29 PM
I thought the album wasn't THAT special as well. I was very looking forward to it.

However, track 2 is probably the best track since Untouchables  :metal  :metal
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: wolfking on December 04, 2013, 11:05:56 PM
However, track 2 is probably the best track since Untouchables  :metal  :metal

I'd probably agree with this.  I had high expectations for it after hearing that song, but unfortunately the rest of the album didn't live up to it.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: black_biff_stadler on December 04, 2013, 11:11:44 PM
I used to like korn a decent bit and despite being a shitty guitarist I can effortlessly write shit on par or better than Untouchables. Y'all think they may have reached an Ulrichian level of complacence?
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: NotePad on December 10, 2013, 11:57:45 PM
I'v listened to Korn. I own their first album, and See you on the other side. The first one has a different sound then everything after. I enjoy See You on the other side. They write very simple riffs, but they're heavy as fuck and i love that.

But the downside to them is that they always do the same thing. They always say they're doing something different with each release, but they're all essentially the same. Just with a little more electronic sound, or less. They never evolved like their peers, notable Deftones (even Tool, who are STILL lumped with them. But if you listen to Tools first album, i can kinda see why. Then listen what Tool did next. Thats evolution goddamnit). I know people say that a lot about Korn. But it's true and quite a shame. They have their niche and will never ever leave it.

Should i check out their lasted cd?
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Nel on December 11, 2013, 12:26:10 AM
Based on what you've said, I'd say no. Part of the hype for this album was that an old member was returning and they were "going back to their older sound", which is pretty much "we're not evolving" in a nutshell.  :D
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: wolfking on December 11, 2013, 03:40:00 AM
Based on what you've said, I'd say no.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: PixelDream on December 11, 2013, 07:30:47 AM
Check out Untouchables, at least. It's worth it.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: OsMosis2259 on December 11, 2013, 08:40:11 AM
Korn was one of the bands that got me into metal especially with the first four albums. I listened to all of their albums but I don't seem to have that same excitement as I used to with their music. Not really surprised because I was a younger kid back then and this can happen with any music after listening too much... however, Untouchables is still a pretty killer album.

The production, the sound, and it just sounded like Korn but kinda matured a bit.

Korn, Life is Peachy, Follow the Leader, and Issues are the "classic" Korn albums.
Untouchables is very consistent.
Afterwards all the albums had a few good songs on them but was just kind of there...

You can feel Head's absence on the later albums. The riffs just didn't have that beef/thickness that he really brought.

Did anyone listen to Head's side project Love and Death? That album was killer!
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: black_biff_stadler on December 11, 2013, 12:36:43 PM
I thought Issues was a massive letdown and that Untouchables was a return to form.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: NotePad on December 11, 2013, 12:45:34 PM
I was sort of analyzing their music the other day drive listening to see you on the other side.

They write some very catchy music. Songs often start with a simple riff, which is usually very very heavy and downtuned. The lyrics are for the most part about topics most young people can relate to. Most songs have a chorus that is very catchy. It's like they purposely aim for the greatest common denominator when writing their music. There is always something there that SOMEONE will enjoy. Therefor their music is commercial and mainstream. They want to branch out, but want to stay simple.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: wolfking on December 11, 2013, 04:46:07 PM
Issues is actually my fav album.  Untouchables was great too.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: dparrott on December 02, 2014, 07:19:16 PM
Can anyone confirm that the new pic disc of Paradigm Shift has an exclusive track? All the track lists I see have the same songs as the deluxe version.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: wolfking on December 02, 2014, 07:33:13 PM
I'm not sure about the pic disc, but the tour edition had a new song called 'Hater' I believe.  I didn't bother getting it, the album hasn't aged that well for me to be honest.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Nel on December 03, 2014, 01:03:13 AM
All I know is that "Hater" is a terrible song and I don't regret not waiting for the tour edition at all. And yeah, I agree. Paradigm Shift had no staying power for me at all.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: wolfking on July 22, 2016, 06:38:50 AM
New Korn if anyone gives a fuck;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq9j1qkj2Vc&feature=youtu.be

This is actually pretty damn good.  Hopefully it's not a false representation of the album, this is like Follow the Leader style, good shit.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: mikeyd23 on July 22, 2016, 06:43:47 AM
New Korn if anyone gives a fuck;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq9j1qkj2Vc&feature=youtu.be

This is actually pretty damn good.  Hopefully it's not a false representation of the album, this is like Follow the Leader style, good shit.

Not a big Korn fan, but I liked that song. Good stuff.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: black_biff_stadler on July 22, 2016, 10:07:34 AM
New Korn if anyone gives a fuck;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq9j1qkj2Vc&feature=youtu.be

This is actually pretty damn good.  Hopefully it's not a false representation of the album, this is like Follow the Leader style, good shit.

This was good. Might buy my first Korn album in 14 years.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Kotowboy on July 22, 2016, 10:08:09 AM
I'm not a Korn fan. I like a few songs here and there.

That sounded most like Untouchables era for me.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: jakepriest on July 22, 2016, 10:22:45 AM
All I know is that "Hater" is a terrible song and I don't regret not waiting for the tour edition at all. And yeah, I agree. Paradigm Shift had no staying power for me at all.

Hater is a great song. Not very Korn-y but still a really good song.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Train of Naught on July 22, 2016, 12:18:00 PM
That sounded most like Untouchables era for me.
Agreed. I like this song, seems like they're trying their luck with the tribal Freak on a Leash vocals again! Which makes me think they're straying away from the Skrillex crap and reinventing their old roots again, kinda.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: wolfking on July 22, 2016, 02:35:54 PM
That sounded most like Untouchables era for me.
Agreed. I like this song, seems like they're trying their luck with the tribal Freak on a Leash vocals again! Which makes me think they're straying away from the Skrillex crap and reinventing their old roots again, kinda.

Thought the same thing.  Ifucking hope so, I hope this song isn't a false representation of the album.

I guess you guys are right, it is more Untouchables than Follow the Leader. Great song, production sounds strong too.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Nel on July 22, 2016, 06:03:49 PM
All I know is that "Hater" is a terrible song and I don't regret not waiting for the tour edition at all. And yeah, I agree. Paradigm Shift had no staying power for me at all.

Hater is a great song. Not very Korn-y but still a really good song.

Never.

I hope the new album's good. That wacko dubstep album's the only thing I've liked by them since See You On The Other Side, and that's damn depressing.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Ben_Jamin on July 22, 2016, 09:20:29 PM
Had the chance to see them tonight but had to go out of town. Song sounds pretty neat.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Train of Naught on August 23, 2016, 12:34:36 AM
New song called "Insane", it's on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-zb4C_k7Ek

Fuck, this is going to be the first time in a long time I'll be enjoying a new Korn album, this is really remeniscent of their old stuff. Everyone who has had their doubts about Korn over the past few years but has been a fan in the past, please check this out.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Ben_Jamin on August 23, 2016, 12:57:50 AM
I love that jam, wish they'd play it live.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: wolfking on August 23, 2016, 05:50:18 AM
Not as strong as the first song released, but still another step in the right direction.  Definite purchase for me.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Ben_Jamin on August 23, 2016, 07:30:54 AM
Me too. That single has a nice blend of LIP/Issues/Untouchables/TALITM. I love it.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Ben_Jamin on August 23, 2016, 07:41:43 AM
With Head back in the picture, it makes a huge difference. And it shows that Head was the main writer in the band, look at the albums since he left.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: jakepriest on August 23, 2016, 07:52:32 AM
Oh man, this is such a good year for music.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: NoseofNicko on October 21, 2016, 05:58:55 PM
Anyone listened to the new album? Korn was one of my favorite bands when I was 13 and I stopped listening to/caring about them a long time ago, but I'm gonna give the new album a chance.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: wolfking on October 21, 2016, 06:48:02 PM
I'm gonna pick it up today.  They are also a band that meant a lot to me when I was around the same age and was obsessed with them.  They are certainly not what they were, but what I've heard sounds promising from this record.  They are still a band I'll purchase new albums from regardless.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: NoseofNicko on October 21, 2016, 08:11:02 PM
Listening to it right now. It's not bad at all, but it's reminding me how monotonous nu metal can be.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: NoseofNicko on October 21, 2016, 09:35:34 PM
Listening to Untouchables right now. I'm surprised to find out I still really like Here to Stay and Thoughtless.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: dparrott on October 22, 2016, 12:22:00 AM
New album is good, same old late 90s Korn, but it all kinda sound the same after a while.  Like Weezer.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Nel on October 22, 2016, 03:23:37 PM
Can't find the deluxe edition anywhere. I didn't even use my $2 coupon at Best Buy because none of the copies had the bonus tracks. Weird.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Kotowboy on October 22, 2016, 03:24:17 PM
Listening to Untouchables right now. I'm surprised to find out I still really like Here to Stay and Thoughtless.

Here To Stay has a great riff. And I love the disco beat in metal songs.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: wolfking on October 23, 2016, 04:14:30 AM
Picked up the deluxe edition and have listened to the first 6 songs.  It's really very strong, but does sound the same and isn't anything new at all, but I didn't expect that.  Very strong old style sounding Korn though. Hopefully the rest of the album can at least match the quality of the first 6 songs.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: dparrott on October 24, 2016, 09:43:57 AM
Listening to Untouchables right now. I'm surprised to find out I still really like Here to Stay and Thoughtless.

Here To Stay has a great riff. And I love the disco beat in metal songs.

They were criticized for that when Got The Life came out, but I liked it, they were blending more styles in.  Fans had to get used to that.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: wolfking on October 24, 2016, 07:17:00 PM
Can't find the deluxe edition anywhere. I didn't even use my $2 coupon at Best Buy because none of the copies had the bonus tracks. Weird.

I was only able to get the deluxe edition.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Nel on October 24, 2016, 07:28:09 PM
Well what the fudge?!  :lol I can't find it anywhere around here.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: wolfking on October 24, 2016, 11:44:53 PM
Well what the fudge?!  :lol I can't find it anywhere around here.

The two tracks are just two more of the same thing really.  No better or worse after one listen, but nice to have.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: dparrott on October 25, 2016, 05:30:53 PM
Japanese bonus track:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJ-dedhQTKg

Why was this just a bonus track???  It's good!
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Ben_Jamin on October 25, 2016, 07:29:51 PM
That's a good one.

It makes me wonder what makes the Japanese so special that a band has to make another song. Only they can hear
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Nel on October 26, 2016, 05:38:35 AM
That's a good one.

It makes me wonder what makes the Japanese so special that a band has to make another song. Only they can hear

Something about deterring them from importing for a lower price or something? I think I read that once.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: wolfking on October 26, 2016, 05:43:55 AM
Japanese bonus track:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJ-dedhQTKg

Why was this just a bonus track???  It's good!

That's better than a lot of the album tracks IMO.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: Nel on October 26, 2016, 04:53:08 PM
All right, I eventually made my way to the Korn Reddit to figure this thing out, and... Roadrunner didn't release the deluxe version in America. At all. There's a deluxe box set shipping to people who pre-ordered on Nov. 20, but otherwise, nothing. Great fucking job, Roadrunner. *slow clap*

EDIT: And now it appears we will get the Deluxe, but due to an error no Best Buy is getting it until Nov. 20. So that's what they meant. Oy. I'll just hold on to my coupon and wait.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: wolfking on October 27, 2016, 05:33:31 AM
All right, I eventually made my way to the Korn Reddit to figure this thing out, and... Roadrunner didn't release the deluxe version in America. At all. There's a deluxe box set shipping to people who pre-ordered on Nov. 20, but otherwise, nothing. Great fucking job, Roadrunner. *slow clap*

EDIT: And now it appears we will get the Deluxe, but due to an error no Best Buy is getting it until Nov. 20. So that's what they meant. Oy. I'll just hold on to my coupon and wait.

Yeah man, just wait a few more weeks man and get the deluxe.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: wolfking on September 12, 2019, 04:02:08 PM
Didn't realise Korn had a new album out today.  Just sampled a couple of tracks and it sounds very promising.  I will probably pick up a copy on the weekend.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: ErHaO on September 13, 2019, 03:45:27 AM
It seems to be reviewing really well. Haven't listened to Korn for more than a decade, but I've heard their last one was good as well. I will probably check it out.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: ReaperKK on September 13, 2019, 04:58:14 AM
Didn't realise Korn had a new album out today.  Just sampled a couple of tracks and it sounds very promising.  I will probably pick up a copy on the weekend.

Nice. I'll have to check it out soon.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: wolfking on September 13, 2019, 05:30:53 AM
It seems to be reviewing really well. Haven't listened to Korn for more than a decade, but I've heard their last one was good as well. I will probably check it out.

The last one was a nice attempt to go back to their roots.  It was okay but nothing special IMO.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: NoseofNicko on May 28, 2020, 12:11:27 PM
Been listening to their latest the last few days and I think itís very good. Almost as good as the latest Slipknot imo.
Title: Re: Korn Thread
Post by: wolfking on May 28, 2020, 04:20:39 PM
Been listening to their latest the last few days and I think itís very good. Almost as good as the latest Slipknot imo.

I wouldn't say it's as good as the Slipknot but it's a very nice album.  Best since Issues IMO.