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Title: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Quadrochosis on April 24, 2010, 05:50:42 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pure_Reason_Revolution

The article there says that they can be classified as "Astral Folk" or "New Prog"

It says there influences are Pink Floyd, Porcupine Tree, Nirvana, Justice, Kraftwerk, and Fleetwood Mac.

For those of you into music like Porcupine Tree, but also like a bit of techno, and love vocal harmonies, like in Eisley, then this band would be just for you.

So this thread is for us to appreciate the insanely under appreciated band and talk about their awesome music.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Marvellous G on April 24, 2010, 06:02:06 PM
I've only heard Deus Ex Machina, but it's pretty awesome and I'm interested to check them out further. Also their description on LastFM is very awesome.  :lol
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: faemir on April 24, 2010, 06:03:04 PM
I have the dark third, haven't listened properly yet :blush
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Gwii on April 24, 2010, 06:08:41 PM
AVO is an incredible album
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Quadrochosis on April 24, 2010, 06:16:45 PM
AVO is an incredible album

I happen to like The Dark Third better than AVO but both albums are phenomenal.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: SoundscapeMN on April 24, 2010, 06:18:27 PM
yes, I'm a huge fan..since late in 2005. New album should be released within a few months :)
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: skydivingninja on April 24, 2010, 07:30:42 PM
Been a fan since 2006 when I purchased The Dark Third blind.  Both albums are awesome, and I'm really excited for the next one.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Zantera on April 25, 2010, 03:52:46 AM
Yay, finally a thread for PRR. 
I was really surprised when i heard AVO last year, and it became one of my "top10 albums released in 2009", i still like it very much.
I've listened to Dark Third like 2-3 times, nothing has clicked yet.
But i'll give it a go soon again. =)
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Arcaeus on April 25, 2010, 04:05:51 AM
I don't own any of their material, but a few songs of theirs have popped up on my last.fm recommendation station, and I certainly like what I've heard :tup Once I have money, I may dive deeper into their work...
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: ich bin besser on April 25, 2010, 04:51:54 AM
Saw them live yesterday.  :hat They rocked!! Pics to follow.

edit: Pics didn't turn out well... But here's one from the soundcheck (in the foreground: Jolly from New York - some more Jolly pics: https://entertainment.webshots.com/album/577447327TuAbLr ):


(https://image77.webshots.com/77/6/50/99/2178650990050318721oVFynT_fs.jpg)



Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: ich bin besser on April 25, 2010, 11:10:33 AM
Btw, here you can watch the full Rockpalast gig from 2008: https://www.wdr.de/tv/rockpalast/extra/videos/2008/1025/pure_reason_revolution.jsp

 :tup
 
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Quadrochosis on April 26, 2010, 07:56:02 PM
Awesome! Thanks! :tup
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: robwebster on May 27, 2010, 09:51:00 AM
New albumen sampler! Out now!

https://www.myspace.com/purereasonrevolution

They've gone very strange. The section that starts at about 2:20 makes my heart melt. Oh I love Pure Reason Revolution. Sounds like they're continuing their bizarre departures on each consecutive album. It's still got that distilled PRR-ness in there, and they've kept some of the synth stuff, but it sounds so... odd. It's got a very new fierceness to it. Very excited.

Got a hunch the first song on the sampler might be called Fight Fire With Fire.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: SoundscapeMN on May 27, 2010, 04:05:05 PM
also a note

Quote
Finally just a quick note to say we have re-signed and extended our deal with Superball/Century Media to now include North America, this means that the album will now be released worldwide in the Autumn...

Until next time…

Jamie
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: skydivingninja on May 27, 2010, 04:22:48 PM
Well color me excited.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: SoundscapeMN on August 20, 2010, 04:58:35 PM
(his twitter posts are view-by-request/approval)

Quote from: j_courtney on twitter
Pure Reason Revolution - “Hammer & Anvil” (Superball/EMI) out 18th October! Goodtimes!

YouTube- Pure Reason Revolution - Album 3 Sampler (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SyCalCjABQ)

YouTube- Pure Reason Revolution - Black Morning NEW SONG (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-TzaYhHzws)
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: ariich on August 20, 2010, 05:20:44 PM
yes, I'm a huge fan..since late in 2005. New album should be released within a few months :)
Awesome news!

Yeah I've been a fan pretty much since Dark Third came out, which is a great album. AVO took me a bit by surprise when it first came out but it's also a really solid album.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: skydivingninja on August 20, 2010, 07:15:50 PM
New album already?  Awesome!

Listening to the new song.  Kinda staying with the poppier sound from AVO, but it still sounds great.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Gorille85 on August 20, 2010, 07:32:41 PM
Nice news! I'm really looking forward to this!
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: robwebster on August 20, 2010, 08:42:03 PM
Brilliant!

Think this is the album art...
(https://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/117/l_6424ff5914ac4a0aa251b98adfcd81bf.jpg)
...which is all well and good, and I love how striking it is, but it's only about two fifths as brilliant as this...

(https://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/115/l_0eb6c5ed1dda4bd1af2d75c215594325.png)
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: faemir on September 21, 2010, 02:49:44 AM
Been listening to AVO to try get it to click as Dark Third did ages ago.

The title track is amazing.

And that album art looks great Rob :tup
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: SoundscapeMN on September 21, 2010, 05:06:41 AM
3 new songs:

https://www.editurl.com/j53
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: SoundscapeMN on September 21, 2010, 05:34:05 AM
Brilliant!

Think this is the album art...
(https://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/117/l_6424ff5914ac4a0aa251b98adfcd81bf.jpg)
...which is all well and good, and I love how striking it is, but it's only about two fifths as brilliant as this...

(https://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/115/l_0eb6c5ed1dda4bd1af2d75c215594325.png)

https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B0041O5S8U

(https://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x110/SoundscapeMN/PRRhammerandanvilcover.jpg)

1. Fight Fire
2. Black Mourning
3. Patriarch
4. Last Man, Last Round
5. Valour
6. Over The Top
7. Never Divide
8. Blitzkrieg
9. Open Insurrection
10. Armistice
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: SoundscapeMN on October 02, 2010, 01:28:22 AM
another new song "Patriach" can be streamed there
https://www.loveshackbaby.net/2010/10/pure-reason-revolution-more-than-any-of-us-bargained-for-give-you-their-single-patriarch-just-in-time-for-your-weekend/

this one may please more of The Dark Third fans.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: faemir on October 02, 2010, 04:16:21 AM
I don't like the implications that that article gives off at all. I want a nice balance of prog-rock and electronic, not a dropping of the prog-rock. :(
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: skydivingninja on October 02, 2010, 07:51:57 AM
Well, I really liked the AVO sound, and "Patriarch" sounds like a good mix of TDT's etherealness and AVO's funkiness.  I kinda hope they do another complete 180 in style change on the album after this, something for people to go WTF at the way everyone went WTF at AVO.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: faemir on October 02, 2010, 04:49:11 PM
True.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Gorille85 on October 02, 2010, 05:26:56 PM
I don't actually have any problems with their shift for more electronic stuff. And I love the new song!
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: ariich on October 02, 2010, 05:45:01 PM
Pretty excited about the new album. The album art is epic!
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: SoundscapeMN on October 15, 2010, 04:15:34 PM
new album came out today. Listening now  :)
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: veronica on October 15, 2010, 04:26:02 PM
new album came out today. Listening now  :)
today‽ Awesome!

Edit: Not today :( Monday... So I'll have to wait to buy it oh well I had completely forgotten about it in the first place :P
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: faemir on October 15, 2010, 04:35:39 PM
today‽

Interrobang ftw :tup
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: SoundscapeMN on October 15, 2010, 04:40:00 PM
wow..some serious heavy INDUSTRIAL stuff on this. "Last Man, Last Round"..shit.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: veronica on October 15, 2010, 04:49:38 PM
today‽

Interrobang ftw :tup
Totally! :D

wow..some serious heavy INDUSTRIAL stuff on this. "Last Man, Last Round"..shit.
In a good way or bad?
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: SoundscapeMN on October 15, 2010, 05:17:07 PM
wow..some serious heavy INDUSTRIAL stuff on this. "Last Man, Last Round"..shit.
In a good way or bad?

I believe in a good way. Hearing it on pc speakers though, I like to treat with a grain of salt. But I'd say now hearing it once, that track and parts of "Open Insurrection" go into that territory especially.

I have a feeling this album some will love, but some are gonna hate. But just on the surface, it has a lot of good moments on it. I just want to play it with headphones a couple of times to know exactly how good it may be.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: faemir on October 15, 2010, 06:37:42 PM
Already better than AVO.

Fight Fire followed by Black Mourning is probably my favourite 1-2 punch of PRR songs :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Quadrochosis on October 15, 2010, 07:01:21 PM
Whaat? New album? Can't seem to find it anywhere. :(
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Zantera on October 16, 2010, 02:51:51 AM
Whaat? New album? Can't seem to find it anywhere. :(
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: faemir on October 16, 2010, 07:19:15 AM
(https://imgur.com/ofgQS.png)
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: skydivingninja on October 16, 2010, 07:22:26 AM
new album came out today. Listening now  :)

I think us silly americans have to wait another week or two.  Makes me sad.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: veronica on October 16, 2010, 11:25:25 AM
And only a few european countries have gotten it. But monday!
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Gorille85 on October 16, 2010, 09:29:45 PM
new album came out today. Listening now  :)

I think us silly americans have to wait another week or two.  Makes me sad.

Me too. :(
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: faemir on October 26, 2010, 08:25:46 AM
So what are people's thoughts? It's definitely awesome, but not as good as TDT + bonus songs.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: skydivingninja on October 26, 2010, 08:27:59 AM
I completely forgot to get this.  I'll have to remedy that soon.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: SoundscapeMN on October 26, 2010, 04:07:36 PM
It's a good record, but it's definitely my least favorite of their 3. The best songs on it are great, namely the last 3 tracks, especially Open Insurrection.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: faemir on October 26, 2010, 06:43:38 PM
It's a good record, but it's definitely my least favorite of their 3.

Reaaally? It feels so much more consistent than AVO.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: SoundscapeMN on October 26, 2010, 07:17:52 PM
these 4 tracks
Patriarch, Valour, Over the Top, Never Divide
all seem to blend together for me. They don't seem as inspired.

Also this new album doesn't feature Chloe's vocals too much.

AVO really did flow to me. And it only has gotten better with time.

This new record seems to echo that one more than I'd like. It's almost like some of the music on Hammer & Anvil came across as b-sides for AVO. Namely those 4 tracks I posted above. What made AVO fresh and progressive was how it wasn't The Dark Third Part 2. Whereas this new album almost comes across as AVO Part 2. Part of that could be how soon it came out.

On the other hand, songs like Blitzkrieg and Open Insurrection at least show the band are still trying to do new things. I just don't get the sense Hammer & Anvil has enough to compare to TDT nor AVO. But we'll see how well it ages and I suppose what they do next.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: faemir on October 26, 2010, 07:50:48 PM
They're better than the worst on AVO.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: SoundscapeMN on October 28, 2010, 12:50:46 AM
no way, as I played AVO again today. There's nothing on that album as bad or un-interesting as any of those really. I'd take Disconnect, Bloodless and all of The Gloaming over any of those songs.

And maybe most significant is how well AVO flows to me. The energy is consistent on that record. I recall putting that thing on a large number of times over the last year when I needed to wake up at work and it never failed me.

I have concluded that Hammer & Anvil would have made an awesome EP or Mini-album if those 4 Depeche Mode/Synth-Rock-based tunes were not included. Because those 3 closing tracks are totally ace. And the other tunes, Fight Fire, Black Mourning and Last Man, Last Round are among the better songs the band has written. But the Synth-Rock stuff sounds totally generic to me. Not prog, not epic, not layered, and not even memorable.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Zantera on November 02, 2010, 06:49:52 AM
New album is pretty good, heard it 2 times in full this far, and played some of the songs more times.
Black Mourning is my favorite, and the songs following making the middle-part of the cd is probably the best.
I also really like Armistice, great closer.
Fight Fire is way too repetitive and annoying, but it will probably grow on me as most songs do.

Overall i'd rank it next to The Dark Third, though AVO is still their best album. IMO.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: atmyne on November 02, 2010, 07:11:54 AM
I thought that most of the tracks on AVO were pretty awesome, but to me the album didn't measure up to all the attention it received (mostly from prog fans, interestingly). If I enjoyed AVO, is this worth my money, or is it just some over-hyped-by-progarchives clap-trap?
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Zantera on November 02, 2010, 07:18:51 AM
I thought that most of the tracks on AVO were pretty awesome, but to me the album didn't measure up to all the attention it received (mostly from prog fans, interestingly). If I enjoyed AVO, is this worth my money, or is it just some over-hyped-by-progarchives clap-trap?

It's worth checking out, though overall it isn't as good as AVO. imo :P
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: robwebster on November 02, 2010, 07:04:00 PM
I thought that most of the tracks on AVO were pretty awesome, but to me the album didn't measure up to all the attention it received (mostly from prog fans, interestingly). If I enjoyed AVO, is this worth my money, or is it just some over-hyped-by-progarchives clap-trap?
I think the reason that AVO got a lot of chins wagging is because it was very hotly anticipated, following a very well-received debut album. That made the fact that it didn't suck even sweeter, giving PRR a two-for-two record, and two massively constrasting albums in the process.

I've not seen Hammer & Anvil hyped as much - although that may be 'cause I'm less ensconsed in the internet, nowadays, than I used to be - so I think reviews will be fairer. Myself, I'm not sure how it measures up to AVO, which I was very, very fond of, but it's a much heavier album all round. More riffy, more electronic, more guitarry. Everything amped up to 11. Think it's definitely worth a shot if you had any love for Amor Vincit Omnia whatsoever. It progresses the sound without being "more of the same."

Basically, imagine Amor Vincit Omnia, if it had its romantic heart stripped from between its ribs, and replaced with fury.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Zantera on November 12, 2010, 02:38:25 AM
So The Dark Third just clicked for me, wow.  :hefdaddy
Dunno why i've dismissed it earlier, but this is their best album IMO, though i still dig AVO and the latest.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: faemir on November 12, 2010, 06:31:48 AM
Jeez, take your time :P
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Zantera on November 12, 2010, 06:53:54 AM
Sometimes i don't listen to an album until very late because of really silly reasons, in this case it was because in my library it was divided into "disc 1" and "disc 2", which meant that i had to switch to the playlist for disc 2 after the first was done.
All this was fixed really easy just by changing the name on the album to just "The Dark Third", something i've been too lazy to do earlier.  :lol

Anyhow, Goshen's Remains and Apprentice of the Universe...  :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: faemir on November 12, 2010, 07:02:04 AM
Yeah, that's what the cd number / total cds tags are for :P

But you forgot the best track on the record - The Twyncyn/Trembling Willows
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: faemir on November 12, 2010, 07:41:41 AM
Bright Ambassadors is too long, despite being one of the best songs on the album.

Apparently it's their highest charting single, but it's 12 minutes long :huh:
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Zantera on November 12, 2010, 07:44:13 AM
The latest 2 albums actually comes out as boring compared to TDT, but still a quality-band.  :P
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: faemir on November 12, 2010, 07:51:25 AM
the title track of AVO wants a word with you.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Zantera on November 12, 2010, 08:08:32 AM
the title track of AVO wants a word with you.

That's the song i like the least on AVO actually, not kidding.
It's a good album though. :P
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: skydivingninja on November 12, 2010, 09:19:29 AM
AVO has some great songs, some that surpass even the Dark Third when I feel like something fun.  The Dark Third is still a masterpiece, though I'm not always in the mood for it.  The one time where iTunes' "stuff you might like" feature in their store ever came in handy for me.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Zantera on November 12, 2010, 09:24:06 AM
Overall i think AVO has only great tracks, but it doesn't have the same epic "album"-feeling as The Dark Third have.
It's the same with Hammer and Anvil tbh, a lot of great tracks but the progressive-elements are nearly gone.  :sadpanda:
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: faemir on November 12, 2010, 12:09:41 PM
I wish they'd just do TDT with electronics...
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: SoundscapeMN on November 12, 2010, 04:51:06 PM
Bright Ambassadors could use about 2-3 minutes of editing and it'd be perfect.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Quadrochosis on November 12, 2010, 10:18:14 PM
Just picked the new album up at FYE today. From one listen I can say it totally rocks! :metal
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Zantera on November 13, 2010, 01:03:24 AM
When i got it about 3 weeks ago i listened to it like 6-7 times in 2 days, but since then i haven't really played it that much.
Will most likely give it another spin near new years eve before i make my "topX in 2010"-list.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: faemir on November 13, 2010, 07:51:57 AM
Bright Ambassadors could use about 2-3 minutes of editing and it'd be perfect.

Yeah that's it.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: skydivingninja on November 22, 2010, 12:37:09 PM
Listening to Hammer and Anvil now, just finished up Valour.  Its a lot heavier than AVO, which I wasn't really expecting, while still keeping that electronic sound which I like.  Not many songs that are REALLY sticking out to me right now like Deus Ex Machine, Les Mahleurs, Victorious Cupid, Apogee, AVO, Disconnect, or The Gloaming.  Closest so far would be Patriarch, I think.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Quadrochosis on November 22, 2010, 05:23:54 PM
Listening to Hammer and Anvil now, just finished up Valour.  Its a lot heavier than AVO, which I wasn't really expecting, while still keeping that electronic sound which I like.  Not many songs that are REALLY sticking out to me right now like Deus Ex Machine, Les Mahleurs, Victorious Cupid, Apogee, AVO, Disconnect, or The Gloaming.  Closest so far would be Patriarch, I think.

These are my thoughts exactly. It's a good album, but not really that much of a standout. It makes great background music though. I think it's their weakest release yet, but still pretty good, and worth the 10 dollars I paid for it.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: faemir on November 22, 2010, 06:24:38 PM
I hate Disconnect.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Gadough on November 22, 2010, 09:01:20 PM
So...this band is like a cross between Porcupine Tree and Eisley, you say? Hmm. Perhaps I should give this band a listen.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: robwebster on November 22, 2010, 09:03:19 PM
So...this band is like a cross between Porcupine Tree and Eisley, you say? Hmm. Perhaps I should give this band a listen.
In Aurelia sold me, I'd recommend that if you fancy just checking out a wee bit of the band. No idea what Eisley are like, though, so don't know which PRR era you'd prefer. Deus Ex Machina is one of the highlights of their electronic stuff, and The Twyncyn / Trembling Willows is the best out of their more organic stuff.

Can't go wrong starting with any of those three, though they're all quite drastically different songs. Then move onto Fight Fire.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: skydivingninja on November 22, 2010, 09:57:00 PM
Combine old Porcupine Tree, some Eisley (really mostly in the vocals), Daft Punk, and some heavier Muse stuff and you have PRR at this point, Gadough.  Get AVO and The Dark Third. 

Rob: What CD is Twyncyn/Trembling Willows on?  Some EP or bonus disk I don't know about?
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: SoundscapeMN on November 23, 2010, 04:29:46 AM
So...this band is like a cross between Porcupine Tree and Eisley, you say? Hmm. Perhaps I should give this band a listen.

sorry, but I don't hear any similarities between PRR and Eisley.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Zantera on November 23, 2010, 04:31:06 AM
Rob: What CD is Twyncyn/Trembling Willows on?  Some EP or bonus disk I don't know about?

It's on The Dark Third.  ;)

The new album is pretty solid, the only track i don't like would be "Fight Fire" (because i find it repetitive, and only Chloe singing, so no harmony-singing), apart from that i think all the songs are good, though i don't really find any of the songs to be GREAT.
AVO had the same solidness, but it also had higher peaks (The Gloaming, Disconnect), but overall i think The Dark Third is the best, because it's more fascinating then both the newer. :P
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: skydivingninja on November 23, 2010, 06:03:59 AM
Was there some special version of The Dark Third that I missed?  I actually do have the CD and I don't have that song.

EDIT: Okay, its on the European version, along with two other songs that aren't on the US version.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: robwebster on November 23, 2010, 09:17:10 AM
Was there some special version of The Dark Third that I missed?  I actually do have the CD and I don't have that song.

EDIT: Okay, its on the European version, along with two other songs that aren't on the US version.
Oh christ! That's like their best song!

They do have some weird stuff going on with The Dark Third. I don't have Nimos & Tambos, nor Asleep Under Eiderdown.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: skydivingninja on November 23, 2010, 09:29:26 AM
The different tracklistings are almost as annoying as The Sky Moves Sideways  :P
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: faemir on November 23, 2010, 11:03:55 AM
Guys, get the 2 disc version for goodness sake, you're missing out on a lot. The US version is horrible, missing out on Trembling Willows, and the UK doesn't have Nimos & Tambos. It's really essential to hear both song imo!

Also, I've decided the following:

The Dark Third = masterpiece
AVO = awesome
HaA = great

Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Volk9 on November 23, 2010, 11:09:05 AM
I've just started listening to them this morning. I got through most of the album called "Amor" something (sorry, dont remember the name).

I really liked it though. Really good stuff
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Quadrochosis on November 24, 2010, 11:41:08 AM
Hammer and Anvil?
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: faemir on November 24, 2010, 12:02:35 PM
No he means AVO, Amor Vincit Omnia.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Quadrochosis on November 24, 2010, 08:03:28 PM
lol wow, always read it as Armor, not Amor.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Gorille85 on November 24, 2010, 08:14:13 PM
I can't seem to find any of their CDs over here! >:(
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: faemir on November 25, 2010, 06:04:11 AM
I can't seem to find any of their CDs over here! >:(

(https://bios.weddingbee.com/pics/60021/jack_sparrow-saidaonline.jpg)
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: skydivingninja on November 25, 2010, 08:23:53 AM
Or...
(https://www.treehugger.com/amazon-jungle-permits.jpg)
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Gorille85 on December 03, 2010, 06:29:13 PM
Finally bought Hammer and Anvil! Listening to it right now! :metal

EDIT: HOLY SHIT BLITZKRIEG IS CRAZY!!!!!
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: robwebster on December 03, 2010, 07:05:45 PM
lol wow, always read it as Armor, not Amor.  :facepalm:
ARMOUR CONQUERS ALL.

I think I like that slightly more than the actual title.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Zantera on December 04, 2010, 04:54:39 AM
I think Hammer and Anvil was slightly disappointing to be honest, all the songs are good, but not a single song strikes me as being "awesome" or better then previous songs, i also miss that progressive-element they used to have, combined with the fact that i think H&A has the least "album-feeling" out of the 3 albums.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: robwebster on December 04, 2010, 05:51:43 AM
I think Hammer and Anvil was slightly disappointing to be honest, all the songs are good, but not a single song strikes me as being "awesome" or better then previous songs
Agreed. Fight Fire's the closest. There's no sign of a Deus ex Machina or an In Aurelia or a Trembling Willows, and the other albums had a couple. In fact, on AVO, I'd say every single song had a very distinct character - even the ones I wasn't so fond of. The Gloaming might've been the only exception, and is probably why I'm not so fond of it.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Zantera on December 04, 2010, 06:10:40 AM
The Gloaming is actually my favorite, but agree with the rest. :P
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: faemir on December 05, 2010, 05:45:01 AM
I think Hammer and Anvil was slightly disappointing to be honest, all the songs are good, but not a single song strikes me as being "awesome" or better then previous songs
Agreed. Fight Fire's the closest. There's no sign of a Deus ex Machina or an In Aurelia or a Trembling Willows, and the other albums had a couple. In fact, on AVO, I'd say every single song had a very distinct character - even the ones I wasn't so fond of. The Gloaming might've been the only exception, and is probably why I'm not so fond of it.

Fight Fire wasn't even written by the band.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: skydivingninja on December 05, 2010, 08:24:41 AM
Yeah, what's with the whole outside songwriter thing?  Did PRR just run out of ideas or something?  I don't get it...
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: faemir on December 05, 2010, 08:47:54 AM
I'm wondering that too, it's really lame.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Gorille85 on December 05, 2010, 02:00:13 PM
Fight Fire is probably my least favorite on the album.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: SoundscapeMN on December 05, 2010, 02:16:20 PM
Tom Bellamy formerly of The Cooper Temple Clause I guess co-wrote and co-produced every song on Hammer & Anvil, save for Fight Fire which was his entirely. I can't say I've ever been overly impressed by TCTC, although I haven't spent hours listening to their music. I know a lot of the Porcupine Tree fans love them though.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Quadrochosis on December 05, 2010, 04:50:55 PM
I think Hammer and Anvil was slightly disappointing to be honest, all the songs are good, but not a single song strikes me as being "awesome" or better then previous songs, i also miss that progressive-element they used to have, combined with the fact that i think H&A has the least "album-feeling" out of the 3 albums.

I agree with this 100%. H&A feels like a B-Sides album of leftovers from AVO.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Gorille85 on December 09, 2010, 02:55:43 PM
After a few listens, I agree that the album is not as good as AVO. It's a very good, but not great record. While Fight Fire is my least favorite, Blitzkrieg is by far the best song on the album.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Zantera on December 09, 2010, 03:25:54 PM
I think the main/intro-riff in Fight Fire is pretty good, but the rest of the song is just repetitive and mediocre. :/
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Gorille85 on December 09, 2010, 03:29:02 PM
I think the main/intro-riff in Fight Fire is pretty good, but the rest of the song is just repetitive and mediocre. :/

I agree. I just skip this song when I listen to the album now.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Zantera on December 09, 2010, 03:48:47 PM
Sadly this album had a really short life for me, i listened to it 15-20 times in 3 days when i got it, but now i don't really see myself listening to it for another 3-4 years at least.
If i wanna listen to PRR, i'd just put on The Dark Third. :P
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Gorille85 on December 09, 2010, 03:49:32 PM
I don't have this album yet! How does it compare to AVO?
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: skydivingninja on December 09, 2010, 04:16:48 PM
Its worse.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Gorille85 on December 09, 2010, 04:21:28 PM
D:
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: faemir on December 09, 2010, 06:14:08 PM
Lolno.

AVO is a 4/5, TDT is 5/5.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Zantera on December 10, 2010, 12:11:56 AM
The Dark Third is my favorite also, it's more progressive then the others, and features more harmony-singing.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: skydivingninja on December 10, 2010, 07:44:35 AM
Oh, was Gorille talking about the Dark Third?  I thought he was talking about H&A!  Whoops.

I consider TDH and AVO both to be fantastic albums, just for entirely different reasons.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: ZeppelinDT on April 28, 2011, 12:51:02 PM
So apparently Jon and Chloe were in another band before PRR called The Sunset Sound and they released a couple of single.  Just picked them both up.  Never even knew this stuff existed - it's like getting four 4 brand new PRR songs plus an older version of "Asleep Under Eiderdown"!  =)
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Zantera on April 28, 2011, 01:18:12 PM
I really hope the next album will be much different, Hammer and Anvil is quite possibly one of the biggest let downs I've ever experienced during my 19 years in life.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: ich bin besser on April 28, 2011, 03:19:50 PM
Saw them live again at the beginning of this month, and they were GREAT again (despite Chloe's sickness, so that the set was only 70 minutes). One of the highlights being "Fight Fire With Fire", with the band being much more "wild" than you might think. Jamie jumping around stage, Chloe kneeling down, Paul and John just coming loose.

After the gig, they came out to talk and sign stuff and it became apparent that they are not as cool as on stage, but quite shy and still not knowing how to behave on stage. But they really improved and talk to the audience.
I think their future still lies ahead of them.

 :tup


 
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: ZeppelinDT on April 28, 2011, 03:38:16 PM
So jealous.  They're at the very top of my list of bands I'm dying to see live that I haven't had the chance to yet.

Also - I <3 Chloe.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: ich bin besser on April 28, 2011, 03:52:00 PM
https://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2593368230050318721snHYvm

 :metal


Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: skydivingninja on April 28, 2011, 03:53:21 PM
I would be more excited for the next album, but getting an outside guy to write most of the music now is just...not a good idea, I think.  At least not with a band that has recently proven it can write amazing albums.  H&A just didn't have any kind of addictive spark that made me want to listen to it again.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: zxlkho on April 28, 2011, 03:54:07 PM
Hey, so this band is pretty awesome.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: ZeppelinDT on April 28, 2011, 04:33:53 PM
I would be more excited for the next album, but getting an outside guy to write most of the music now is just...not a good idea, I think.  At least not with a band that has recently proven it can write amazing albums.  H&A just didn't have any kind of addictive spark that made me want to listen to it again.

Will that be the case going forward too?  I thought that, with the exception of "Fight Fire" (which, imo, is the worst song on the album), Jon still was involved in the songwriting.  Is there some indication that this won't be the case in the future?
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: skydivingninja on April 28, 2011, 04:56:32 PM
No idea, but if they have to resort to hiring a guy to help write music this early in their careers, that troubles me a lot.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: ZeppelinDT on April 28, 2011, 05:06:11 PM
I'm not THAT familiar with the band, but I sort of got the impression that it was more of a "hey let's try something different" thing than a "We need help" sort of thing.  From interviews I've read here and there, I get the sense that they're just kind of free-floating and trying different things without being wedded to any one particular style.  I think in a recent interview somewhere Chloe said something along the lines of "we like trying different things and doing whatever we're feeling into at the time.  Just because we've moved on from one particular style for now it doesn't necessarily mean that we'll never go back"
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: skydivingninja on April 28, 2011, 07:05:54 PM
I'm definitely cool with a band that moves on to different styles, that's why I wasn't so disappointed like a lot of other fans were when AVO came out.  It just seems a bit wrong for a band that made two great albums to follow up with a disappointing third one, and it very well could have been avoided by actually writing more than one song.  I know they're capable of so much more in terms of quality when they write their own stuff!  Hopefully they'll come to their senses for the next one and come out with another great album.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Zantera on April 29, 2011, 02:20:25 AM
I get what you mean about H&A not having any 'spark' SDN, I totally feel the same way.
Easily their worst album.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: faemir on April 29, 2011, 02:38:01 PM
I do still listen to it occasionally, but yeah, I really hope the next album is much better, because the death and birth of a great new band in two albums is just downright depressing :(
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: faemir on May 14, 2011, 01:50:45 PM
Well Golden Clothes just clicked for me.

O_O
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Zantera on May 15, 2011, 01:32:38 PM
Listened to The Dark Third today for the first time in a long while.
Simply fantastic album, love it for many reasons, but compared to the band's later work, this album is the only one that really has an 'album'-feel, no matter what version of the album you're listening to.
The flow between songs is simply amazing, and I can't really pick a favorite because it's all so good.

Album rankings:

1. The Dark Third (10/10)
2. Amor Vincit Omnia (8,5/10)
3. Hammer and Anvil (6/10)
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: faemir on May 16, 2011, 12:58:02 PM
Everyone needs to get the 2CD version.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: faemir on May 29, 2011, 10:45:00 AM
I've been liking Hammer and Anvil quite a lot at the moment, I guess i'm in the mood for some industrial/electronic.

Blitzkrieg is GREAT.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Zantera on May 29, 2011, 10:47:49 AM
Hammer and Anvil is pretty good, but I don't find it to be great.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Gorille85 on May 29, 2011, 11:00:46 AM
Blitzkrieg is GREAT.
THIS :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Zantera on May 29, 2011, 11:09:19 AM
I don't really like the sampling in Blitzkrieg, it's way too repetitive for my taste.
However, the rest of it is a great song.  :tup
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: faemir on May 30, 2011, 06:50:44 AM
It does seem a bit like a tame aphex twin song at times though.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Quadrochosis on May 31, 2011, 12:30:24 PM
Blitzkrieg is GREAT.
THIS :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: ZeppelinDT on June 05, 2011, 03:47:40 PM
Dark Third vinyl!!!

https://www.primalvinyl.co.uk/cgi-bin/ccp51/cp-app.cgi?usr=51F457786&rnd=8410867&rrc=N&affl=&cip=24.47.221.127&act=&aff=&pg=prod&ref=Pure_Reason&cat=&catstr=
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: zxlkho on June 05, 2011, 03:55:57 PM
OH MY GOD

MY WALLET... IT HURTS
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: faemir on June 05, 2011, 04:07:34 PM
I want price and tracklist.

If it doesn't have CD2, i'm not interested.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Vajra on June 05, 2011, 04:22:30 PM
The Dark Third is one of my favorite albums of all time. I've only heard a few songs off the latest two albums, and I wasn't very impressed... I'm still gonna get the albums though, because I'm sure there are a few gems in there.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: faemir on June 05, 2011, 05:23:41 PM
I have to say, Hammer and Anvil sounds sonically fantastic on my new headphones, far more so than either previous album.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Zantera on June 05, 2011, 05:26:00 PM
Well, soundwise it's good, but overall it just has nothing on The Dark Third.
That album is just... mindblowingly fantastic.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: faemir on June 05, 2011, 05:50:12 PM
True, but listening to it gloriously rose it a notch.

Either way, I'm hoping for a return to form.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Zantera on June 05, 2011, 07:50:51 PM
True, but listening to it gloriously rose it a notch.

Either way, I'm hoping for a return to form.

I don't think the issue is their form, they decided to change music-style completely, and as a result they dropped a lot of the things that made them special, like the great harmony-vocals and the progressive-elements combined with some electronica.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: ZeppelinDT on June 05, 2011, 09:01:29 PM
I want price and tracklist.

If it doesn't have CD2, i'm not interested.

It does.  The newsletter said it was the European version.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: zxlkho on June 05, 2011, 09:12:22 PM
What about a price?
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: ZeppelinDT on August 09, 2011, 01:34:16 PM
Quote from: Pure Reason Revolution
Dear PRR peeps,
**BREAKING NEWS** For all of us PRR has been a labour of love for many years, but our individual changing circumstances necessitate its time to finish. It’s been a long & winding journey & we want to say a huge thanks to you all for the support you’ve given.
We’re so sorry that due to extenuating circumstances we are unable to perform at Moonloop Festival, Ukraine & the two Holland shows 11th &12th November.
However we have 6 final UK shows booked to enable us to say a fond farewell to you all:
23/11/2011 Nottingham, Rescue Rooms
https://www.alt-tickets.co.uk/alttickets/home_pure_reason_revolution.html
 
24/11/2011 Bristol, Thekla
https://www.alt-tickets.co.uk/alttickets/home_pure_reason_revolution.html
 
26/11/2011 Norwich, Arts Centre
Website www.norwichartscentre.co.uk B/O: 01603 660352
 
27/11/2011 Holmfirth, Picturedrome
https://www.classicrocksociety.co.uk/
 
28/11/2011 Glasgow, King Tuts
www.gigsinscotland.com B/O: 08444 999 990 /
 
Nov 30th – London, Heaven
https://www.alt-tickets.co.uk/alttickets/home_pure_reason_revolution.html
The show will be a 2-hour performance & we’ll be playing all the chart hits from “AVO” & “Hammer & Anvil” plus the almighty zenith, “The Dark Third” in full!
Buy a ticket in advance & on the night you will have a choice of claiming a free DVD or a £5 discount on any merchandise.
Extended apologies to our fans on the continent, but the reason for solely UK shows is due to fixed time constraints.
We’ve some delectable offers at: https://prr.tshirtmachine.com/ & there’ll be further swag at the November shows.
Looking forward to seeing you in November.
PRRx

:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( x 1,000,000.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: skydivingninja on August 09, 2011, 01:38:35 PM
Well, they quit when they were behind, at least.  Two great albums and one horrible one isn't a bad record, though stopping after H&A leaves a bit of a bad taste in my mouth...ears.  This also means I'll never see them live.  :( :( :( :( :(
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Zantera on August 09, 2011, 01:50:01 PM
Sad news, one of my favorite modern Progressive bands.
However, Hammer & Anvil was a big let down from AVO, and AVO in it's turn didn't quite live up to the epicness of The Dark Third, so maybe they stopped at the right time.
Or maybe their next album would've been even better, we can only speculate.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: zxlkho on August 09, 2011, 01:56:30 PM
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Ryzee on August 09, 2011, 03:31:31 PM
Damn, first Oceansize and now PRR?  :sadpanda:  What does the universe have against my favorite modern progressive bands from the UK?  Here's a coincidence too: I bought the Dark Third and Frames at the same time and they were my introductions to each band!  And ever since I've always kind of grouped them together, like telling people who are fans of older english prog that "there's a bunch of great new progressive bands coming from the UK these days- Oceansize, Pure Reason Revolution..."  :(
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Quadrochosis on August 09, 2011, 03:34:11 PM
I can't imagine TDT sounding all that great on vinyl. Might just be me though.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: ZeppelinDT on August 09, 2011, 04:04:02 PM
If it were done right I think it would sound amazing.  Although at this point I'm starting to the get the feeling its never gonna see the light of day.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Jaq on August 09, 2011, 10:52:58 PM
Damn, TDT is one of my favorite albums EVER. Can't say the next two agreed with me too much, but still, always a shame when a band capable of creating a masterpiece like TDT calls it quits. :(
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Pirate on August 09, 2011, 11:00:07 PM
Damn, first Oceansize and now PRR?  :sadpanda:  What does the universe have against my favorite modern progressive bands from the UK?  Here's a coincidence too: I bought the Dark Third and Frames at the same time and they were my introductions to each band!  And ever since I've always kind of grouped them together, like telling people who are fans of older english prog that "there's a bunch of great new progressive bands coming from the UK these days- Oceansize, Pure Reason Revolution..."  :(
Just wait till Porcupine Tree splits up...
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: zxlkho on August 09, 2011, 11:13:55 PM
Damn, first Oceansize and now PRR?  :sadpanda:  What does the universe have against my favorite modern progressive bands from the UK?  Here's a coincidence too: I bought the Dark Third and Frames at the same time and they were my introductions to each band!  And ever since I've always kind of grouped them together, like telling people who are fans of older english prog that "there's a bunch of great new progressive bands coming from the UK these days- Oceansize, Pure Reason Revolution..."  :(
Just wait till Porcupine Tree splits up...

No.

Shut the fuck up.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Sigz on August 09, 2011, 11:14:54 PM
Damn, first Oceansize and now PRR?  :sadpanda:  What does the universe have against my favorite modern progressive bands from the UK?  Here's a coincidence too: I bought the Dark Third and Frames at the same time and they were my introductions to each band!  And ever since I've always kind of grouped them together, like telling people who are fans of older english prog that "there's a bunch of great new progressive bands coming from the UK these days- Oceansize, Pure Reason Revolution..."  :(
Just wait till Porcupine Tree splits up...

dude dont even
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Pirate on August 09, 2011, 11:15:33 PM
Ha Ha gotcha


But seriously I'd be depressed.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Zantera on August 10, 2011, 03:57:10 AM
If PT split up but Steven Wilson would still continue to make music in his other projects (with maybe more focus on his solo-stuff), I think I would be okay.
But I mean, if something happened to Steven...  :(
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Quadrochosis on August 10, 2011, 06:20:55 AM
If Steven Wilson dies, I die.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: zxlkho on August 10, 2011, 11:00:30 AM
Why the fuck are we talking about this?
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Zantera on August 10, 2011, 11:16:56 AM
Why the fuck are we talking about this?

Dunno. Bored?
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: zxlkho on August 10, 2011, 11:28:47 AM
We need never speak of such things.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: ZeppelinDT on August 26, 2011, 08:13:28 AM
I can't even describe how badly I want to be at one of these shows.  I might just have to fly to London for the final show...
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: zxlkho on August 26, 2011, 10:27:34 AM
Take me with you?
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: ZeppelinDT on August 26, 2011, 01:17:32 PM
I'll stow you away in my luggage.

I'm still not sure about it yet.  But I have been meaning to take a vacation, and I've never been to London....
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: zxlkho on August 26, 2011, 01:21:07 PM
If it was the week of Thanksgiving I would honestly consider a trip like that (since I've been wanting to visit London again for a while anyway)

but as it happens to be the week after Thanksgiving, I can't. :(
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Phoenix87x on August 26, 2011, 02:01:57 PM
Within 10 minutes of reading this thread, I have sampled The Dark Third on Itunes and bought it. They are fantastic and there's nothing I love more then discovering new music. Especially bands I would have never known about otherwise.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: zxlkho on August 26, 2011, 02:06:03 PM
Yeah The Dark Third is absolutely fantastic. The vocal melodies are just beyond amazing.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: ZeppelinDT on August 27, 2011, 10:52:32 AM
After watching Live at Scala a couple of times yesterday, some of the H&E stuff really started to grow on me.  I think a lot of that album is stuff that works really well live but doesn't translate well to a studio album.

Except "Fight Fire".  That song is just stupid any way you look at it :(
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: zxlkho on August 27, 2011, 10:56:53 AM
I still haven't heard that album :lol

I don't really have any desire to listen to it either.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Gorille85 on August 28, 2011, 09:26:20 AM
Quote from: Pure Reason Revolution
Dear PRR peeps,
**BREAKING NEWS** For all of us PRR has been a labour of love for many years, but our individual changing circumstances necessitate its time to finish. It’s been a long & winding journey & we want to say a huge thanks to you all for the support you’ve given.
We’re so sorry that due to extenuating circumstances we are unable to perform at Moonloop Festival, Ukraine & the two Holland shows 11th &12th November.
However we have 6 final UK shows booked to enable us to say a fond farewell to you all:
23/11/2011 Nottingham, Rescue Rooms
https://www.alt-tickets.co.uk/alttickets/home_pure_reason_revolution.html
 
24/11/2011 Bristol, Thekla
https://www.alt-tickets.co.uk/alttickets/home_pure_reason_revolution.html
 
26/11/2011 Norwich, Arts Centre
Website www.norwichartscentre.co.uk B/O: 01603 660352
 
27/11/2011 Holmfirth, Picturedrome
https://www.classicrocksociety.co.uk/
 
28/11/2011 Glasgow, King Tuts
www.gigsinscotland.com B/O: 08444 999 990 /
 
Nov 30th – London, Heaven
https://www.alt-tickets.co.uk/alttickets/home_pure_reason_revolution.html
The show will be a 2-hour performance & we’ll be playing all the chart hits from “AVO” & “Hammer & Anvil” plus the almighty zenith, “The Dark Third” in full!
Buy a ticket in advance & on the night you will have a choice of claiming a free DVD or a £5 discount on any merchandise.
Extended apologies to our fans on the continent, but the reason for solely UK shows is due to fixed time constraints.
We’ve some delectable offers at: https://prr.tshirtmachine.com/ & there’ll be further swag at the November shows.
Looking forward to seeing you in November.
PRRx

:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( x 1,000,000.

 :sadpanda:
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: faemir on November 24, 2011, 05:51:15 AM
I went to the first of the farewell gigs last night.

It was outstanding. Sound was great in the venue apart from Chloe's mic being too low.

Hammer & Anvil songs are AMAZING live. They totally beat AVO's live, which was very surprising.

The Dark Third was epic.

The drummer did lots of nice little improv fills, I noticed his drumming on the Hammer and Anvil material was the fanciest/strongest too.

The guitarist was really cool too, their live mix puts the guitar as more prominent, so I heard and saw a lot that you just don't hear on the CD.

The setlist was killer:

Blitzkrieg (with Disconnect) <---- awesome little mashup
Black Mourning
Les Malheurs <---- might be missing a song here but I don't think so
Valour
Deus Ex Machina
Last Man, Last Round
The Twyncyn / Trembling Willows <---- SO heavy, SO awesome
Fight Fire <----- so much better live
AVO
Aeropause
Goshen's Remains
Apprentice of the Universe
The Bright Ambassadors of Morning
Nimos and Tambos <------ FIRST TIME PLAYED LIVE AND IT WAS AMAZING
Voices in Winter / In the Realms of the Divine <---- amazing, the guitars came out far better than on CD
Bullitts Dominæ  <----- I can't believe they didn't play this live till recently
Arrival / The Intention Craft
He tried to show them magic
Encore:
Ambassadors return

They didn't play part 3 of the final track (after the silence), Asleep under Eiderdown, which was a bit odd, but then it's actually a song from Chloe and Jon's previous band prior to PRR, so perhaps it's not part of the The Dark Third main album as with the second CD songs (though The Exact Colour was on the UK single cd)
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Zantera on November 24, 2011, 05:53:24 AM
Still bummed that these guys are calling it.
While The Dark Third remains untouched as their best album, they were still one of the more promising new bands. :(
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: faemir on November 24, 2011, 05:55:52 AM
They released one final song on a charity EP I bought at the gig, and it's pretty REALLY awesome :D

edit: I'll upload my few lame photos from the gig in a bit.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: faemir on December 03, 2011, 11:52:28 AM
https://secure.flickr.com/photos/r-harvey/sets/72157628253940733/with/6444153917/

https://secure.flickr.com/photos/jon_collins/sets/72157628237453057/with/6437901709/

pics from the final gig, way better than mine.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Blackfield on January 30, 2013, 11:03:44 AM
Chloe Alper from Pure Reason Revolution just released this single from her up coming album. This sounds amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw_UukQMC0c
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Zantera on January 30, 2013, 11:16:04 AM
It sounds really nice. When is the album coming out?
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Blackfield on January 30, 2013, 11:31:49 AM
Not much information about that so I don't know, but I hope soon means soon. This sounds really promising. I think this will be released under the name "Chloe", but they were previously named "Flood". Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: SoundscapeMN on January 30, 2013, 01:14:48 PM
yeah she changed the name of the project. Although while there are a handful of other acts named "Flood" there are also a few others that go by "Chloe" lol. So, she kind of tends to not choose names as distinct as PRR or even Period Pains.

Kimbra got it, but I wonder if ultimately she might have just wanted to go by her full name.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: SoundscapeMN on April 20, 2013, 06:52:54 AM
wow, this demo is quite good!

https://soundcloud.com/chloe-alper/one-of-two
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: SoundscapeMN on May 28, 2013, 09:35:57 PM
https://chloealper.com/

very unsual video for "Leaf" from Chloe (Chloe Alper)
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: ich bin besser on May 29, 2013, 12:11:14 PM
It's part 1 of 2. My guess is that part 2 will be the forward version...
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: SoundscapeMN on October 07, 2015, 12:23:22 PM
bump.

So Chloe's band (at least 1 of them) is now called Tiny Giant. For quite awhile now actually.

They just released a single titled "Heavy Love" which is excellent.

https://soundcloud.com/chloe-alper/heavy-love
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: SoundscapeMN on March 14, 2017, 05:35:02 AM
bump.

Bullet Height, Jon Courtney's new band, based in Berlin I guess, have their debut album "No Atonement" coming out on May 19th.

https://bulletheight.tmstor.es/

1st single "Hold Together"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qfie7ok8-XI
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: SoundscapeMN on October 14, 2018, 10:09:16 AM
bump.

PRR Reunion gig June 2019 at Midsummer Prog Festival

https://www.facebook.com/midsummerprogfestival/posts/2142263216035104
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: ariich on October 14, 2018, 11:11:36 AM
I saw that, and was like "woah WHAT". That's great! I wonder if this means more music in future.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: SoundscapeMN on October 14, 2018, 12:22:26 PM
baby steps, but given the limited output of Jon Courtney with Bullet Height and Chloe Alper's band Tiny Giant, maybe the reunion show in June will motivate them to write new music again.

also they updated their photo on Facebook last week.

https://www.facebook.com/purereasonrevolution/photos/p.10156811722464697/10156811722464697/?type=1&theater

Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Nekov on October 14, 2018, 12:49:23 PM
Nice. Crossing my fingers to get some new stuff from these guys.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on October 14, 2018, 01:28:56 PM
Nice. Crossing my fingers to get some new stuff from these guys.
Hopefully stuff closer in sound/style to The Dark Third.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: ariich on October 14, 2018, 01:56:05 PM
Nice. Crossing my fingers to get some new stuff from these guys.
Hopefully stuff closer in sound/style to The Dark Third.
That's definitely my favourite, comfortably. But I really dug AVO as well.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Zantera on October 14, 2018, 02:45:00 PM
Considering their albums went from amazing to great to just decent, I wasn't too upset when they quit cause at the time the decline was a bit disappointing. But since some time has passed I would love new music, especially considering I still hold The Dark Third so close to my heart. And AVO is great too. :)
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: SoundscapeMN on June 26, 2019, 06:50:37 PM
bump.

they did the reunion gig last Saturday at Midsummer's Prog Festival and checkout the Set List.

shit I never saw them live despite being a fan for 14 years, but The Dark Third...damn

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/pure-reason-revolution/2019/openluchttheater-valkenburg-valkenburg-netherlands-73912aa1.html

Aeropause
Goshen's Remains
Apprentice of the Universe
The Bright Ambassadors of Morning
Nimos & Tambos
Voices in Winter / In the Realms of the Divine
Bullitts Dominæ
Arrival / The Intention Craft
He Tried to Show Them Magic! / Ambassadors Return


Encore:
The Twyncyn / Trembling Willows
Deus Ex Machina
Fight Fire
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Nekov on June 27, 2019, 05:40:59 AM
That's a great set! Is there a live recording somewhere?
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: ich bin besser on June 27, 2019, 08:14:50 AM
I saw the gig in Valkenburg. Great to have them back!  :hat
A few remarks:
- Jon wasn't audible for the first 4 songs, so it kinda ruined my fav song "Bright Ambassadors...".  :'( After that, the sound was fine.
- Chloe was very relaxed and smiled a lot. She loved every minute of it, it seemed. Can't remember having seen her so relaxed. And she looked great.  :coolio
- They were told to cut the last song due to time limits, but they did it anyway. And they tore down the place. Full of energy. Most people loved it!
- PRR always used samples, but even more during this set. Personally, I don't like that. If you can't play it live, then leave it... They had 2 keyboards on stage that they only used for the last song.

All in all, a very nice gig. For me the best of the festival (followed closely by Focus - never seen them live before, but it was a joy watching Thijs van Leer - very charismatic).
The Intersphere was a surprisingly good opener. Jolly were very entertaining, as usual. The Flower Kings were better opening for Spock's Beard last year. I left after 1 hour of IQ. After PRR, they were too mellow for me to stay awake. Their song "Road of Bones" is fantastic - couldn't leave before that one.
 
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: goo-goo on June 27, 2019, 03:24:52 PM
I just hope that if they are working on new material, that it takes the band towards the Dark Third sound. That was a phenomenal album.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: SoundscapeMN on June 27, 2019, 05:23:36 PM
someone posted that they may be working on new music on another forum I'm on, that was more in the style of The Dark Third.

I guess with the lack of activity from Chloe Alper's projects and even Jon Courtney's to an extent, I wouldn't be surprised.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: goo-goo on June 27, 2019, 06:57:36 PM
Bullet Height was pretty strong. Not sure if they will continue though now that PRR is back.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: ich bin besser on June 29, 2019, 02:42:56 PM
That's a great set! Is there a live recording somewhere?

Midsummer Prog has set up a Dropbox file where people can upload stuff. So maybe there'll be some proof.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: SoundscapeMN on July 29, 2019, 10:44:52 AM
bump.

they have officially reunited

Signed with Insideout

new album coming in 2020 that upon playing The Dark Third in its entirety, the music will return to their progressive sound.

https://www.facebook.com/purereasonrevolution/photos/a.466120949696/10157509827794697/?type=3&theater

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We’re very pleased to announce that we’ve reunited PRR. We played our first show in close to 8 years at the recent Midsummer-Prog-Festival in the Netherlands, performing ‘The Dark Third’ in full. The festival & crowd reaction was incredible. We were touched that people had travelled from Canada, Russia, Italy, Spain, UK & many more countries. The tracks are as exciting as ever to play & it's encouraging to see the material still has relevance & connects.

We are working on a new studio album & have signed to Inside Out Music - the album will be out in 2020. The material for the new album returns to a much more progressive sound & by doing the Dark Third in its entirety, it’s nice to remind ourselves of the genesis of PRR.

We look forward to seeing you in 2020.
PRR (Jon Courtney & Chloë Alper) xx
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: goo-goo on July 29, 2019, 11:15:57 AM
I absolutely loved The Dark Third but man, the two albums they released after TDT sucked very bad. Totally different bands.

The Bullet Height release was pretty good though.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Nekov on July 29, 2019, 11:35:50 AM
Some of the best news in music this year. The following albums are quite different, but I wouldn't say they sucked. I enjoy spinning those.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: SoundscapeMN on January 22, 2020, 11:02:09 AM
bump.

"Eupnea" coming out on April 3rd

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Some news 🙊:

Pure Reason Revolution announce ‘Eupnea’; their first studio album in nearly 10 years

Last year, Jon Courtney and Chloë Alper reunited the much-loved Pure Reason Revolution, playing their first show in close to eight years at Midsummer Prog Festival and performing their debut album ‘The Dark Third’ in full. Today they are excited to announce the release of ‘Eupnea’, their first new studio album in nearly 10 years, for the 3rd of April 2020.

https://www.facebook.com/purereasonrevolution/photos/a.466120949696/10158003689294697/?type=3&theater

(https://scontent.ffcm1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/p960x960/83239694_10158003689299697_7725696080083419136_o.jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_ohc=TPzhZEonQS4AX_V_VCa&_nc_ht=scontent.ffcm1-1.fna&_nc_tp=1002&oh=545ab6deddc74e4aea4afa68e2d6daa5&oe=5E9D8FFD)

1. New Obsession
2. Silent Genesis
3. Maelstrom
4. Ghosts & Typhoons
5. Beyond Our Bodies
6. Eupnea
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Zantera on January 22, 2020, 11:15:51 AM
I'll be curious to check it out though I have no idea what to expect. Their debut is one of the best prog albums of the modern era and I still really enjoy the second album (though not on the same level) but with the third album it felt very clear that what started out as a really special band had become a pretty average band by the end of their run. Now with a new album this many years later it could honestly go either way. Either it's a follow-up to their last album which I only thought was OK and goes that route, OR maybe it's a new start and maybe they went back to what worked so well on the debut.

We'll see. :)
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: The Walrus on January 22, 2020, 11:16:41 AM
Cool! Nekov introduced me to this group in my second roulette. I like them!
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: SoundscapeMN on January 22, 2020, 11:39:57 AM
I'll be curious to check it out though I have no idea what to expect. Their debut is one of the best prog albums of the modern era and I still really enjoy the second album (though not on the same level) but with the third album it felt very clear that what started out as a really special band had become a pretty average band by the end of their run. Now with a new album this many years later it could honestly go either way. Either it's a follow-up to their last album which I only thought was OK and goes that route, OR maybe it's a new start and maybe they went back to what worked so well on the debut.

We'll see. :)

you may be correct, but the belief is they were intending to revive The Dark Third style. Although it is only Chloe and Jon Courtney. Who else played on this album? like the drums, etc I guess we'll find out.

here's another article I just noticed
https://www.loudersound.com/news/pure-reason-revolution-return-with-their-first-album-in-10-years

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The duo say in a statement: “We stuck to our manifesto of no musical boundaries and the result was Eupnea.

“We return to a more progressive sound with ferocious guitars, thunderous drums and the stacked harmonies that give us our signature sound. We're excited to begin playing it live.”
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: SoundscapeMN on January 31, 2020, 06:09:31 AM
'Silent Genesis"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5khMXtZ6YjE&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3YP-pXRlPt9K5Ezw9OIX6iWfLNYI3KG2ZZqw51k1rfRQ0YlrZk0Q6nYfQ
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: ariich on January 31, 2020, 07:20:56 AM
Sounds pretty great!
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Nekov on January 31, 2020, 11:11:30 AM
Yeah, I need this album so bad.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: SoundscapeMN on January 31, 2020, 11:21:45 AM
agreed. Very TDT-like.

Silent Genesis has a bit of a Aeropause element in the 1st few minutes.

Preorders are also up btw
https://purereasonrevolution.lnk.to/Eupnea?fbclid=IwAR18eBydNYYNrL7HuIcCedcgPVdBVEtn3JXLx4vzqp-vPCKiOhyfhZ_u30o
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Nekov on January 31, 2020, 12:23:37 PM
I heard some things that reminded me of TDT, that Aeropause vibe was one of them, but I also heard some new things which I found exciting and refreshing. I'm hoping the rest of the album keeps up with this.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: pfillion on January 31, 2020, 12:32:12 PM
Great song!
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Fritzinger on February 02, 2020, 03:24:05 AM
I don't really know this band, but the cover is awesome and the descriptions of their music sounds intriguing.
My buddy and I pre-ordered the limited yellow vinyl. Looking forward to this.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: pfillion on March 06, 2020, 07:56:32 AM
New single

https://youtu.be/dNP9z70zms4
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: SoundscapeMN on March 07, 2020, 09:57:22 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNZcuOKKxmE

new interview with Jon Courtney

He mentions how original guitarist Greg Jong plays on Eupnea!

New single

https://youtu.be/dNP9z70zms4

The rhythm guitar on this track at points almost sounds like Mew tune "Apocalypso"
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Nekov on March 09, 2020, 05:39:36 AM
The new song is quite interesting. It has some elements of the later albums but it doesn't go full on on that style. They also seem to be exploring some new avenues with this one. I liked that for maybe a minute or two, the song is able to keep me on edge, waiting for something massive to happen. And even though it doesn't, I don't feel disappointed. This should be a great album.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Nekov on April 03, 2020, 06:44:12 AM
New album is out and it's awesome! :metal
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: SoundscapeMN on April 03, 2020, 07:36:33 PM
I'm loving this record.

this one is one of the best cuts for sure.

had a bunch of holy shit/goosebump moments listening to Eupnea today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIfrCbRkBww
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: goo-goo on April 04, 2020, 05:58:00 AM
It’s definitely better than their last offering. Inprefer Bullet Height though. It has a lot more of the PRR moments from The Dark Third sound.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Nekov on April 04, 2020, 08:50:25 AM
It’s definitely better than their last offering. Inprefer Bullet Height though. It has a lot more of the PRR moments from The Dark Third sound.

That's interesting. Bullet Height to me has a lot more in common with Hammer and Anvil than it has with The Dark Third. Eupnea feels like they went back to their roots while still innovating.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: pfillion on April 04, 2020, 09:28:25 AM
It's my album of the year so far \m/
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Fritzinger on April 04, 2020, 10:59:56 AM
Vinyl didn't arrive in the mail yet and I'm friggin angry (although of course there is no one to be angry on). But I have had this album for a month on my hard drive now but I decided to wait for the vinyl so I can make it through these last days too!
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: SoundscapeMN on April 04, 2020, 05:30:50 PM
my vinyl arrived this past week. You should get yours soon.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Fritzinger on April 05, 2020, 10:44:50 AM
my vinyl arrived this past week. You should get yours soon.

Quite a few pre-orderers in Germany received their orders from InsideOut already, since IO sends their stuff from Germany... but I ordered the Burningshed version (UK) because I wanted their limited edition  :loser:
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Zantera on April 12, 2020, 12:47:03 PM
This is really nice! I think it's fair to say it's the best one since the debut.  :tup
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: goo-goo on April 15, 2020, 03:52:16 PM
Well, I gotta suck it up and eat my previous words. After several listens, this is a phenomenal record.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Fritzinger on November 26, 2020, 02:00:33 AM
I also ordered the re-issue of The Dark Third and listened to it for the first time yesterday. I love that it is essentially one long piece of music since every song flows into the next. Sometimes you don't even realise it's a new song.
After one and a half listens, it's impossible to say if I like it better than Eupnea. I love the vocal arrangements and I think they're actually even more imaginative and complex than the ones on Eupnea. This band is about melody and not about technical wankery but still all the arrangements and instrumentations are very tasty and performed well.
Side 4 of the vinyl re-issue also contains the original EP featured with the first InsideOut release from 2007 (except for one song). Once again, InsideOut doesn't disappoint with the vinyl issue. Sound is broad, transparent and there's no surface noise. Very happy with this purchase.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: SoundscapeMN on November 26, 2020, 09:18:48 AM
I actually own a 1st pressing of The Dark Third vinyl, which is 1 reason I passed on it.

Like The Perfect Element anniversary remix, I may want to try and pick it up eventually if it is available.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on November 26, 2020, 10:01:41 AM
Eupnea's my album of the year (and the first album of theirs I listened to) but I surprisingly wasn't able to get into The Dark Third. To me there's just a huge gap in songwriting quality between the two.

I've also listened to Hammer And Anvil and while there's a bunch of filler in the middle, the sound is right up my alley and there's some real good songs, especially towards the end.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: SoundscapeMN on March 02, 2022, 05:59:49 PM
bump.

new single and video coming...

https://www.instagram.com/p/Camsol5tyLz/
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on March 02, 2022, 06:13:35 PM
Huh, wonder if it's a one-off? A follow-up to Eupnea this soon would be a pleasant surprise.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: SoundscapeMN on March 02, 2022, 08:28:50 PM
I remember them saying after the positive experience and response to Eupnea, they were interested in doing more music together, so i'm not that surprised.

What I didn't realize was Chloe Alper is a member of the UK band James as well, who while I'll admit I don't know, have quite an extensive catalog that goes back to the 80's.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: goo-goo on March 03, 2022, 10:38:24 PM
It's a new album. LaserCD posted the pre-orders tonight

https://www.lasercd.com/search_results?f[0]=cp_artist1:829
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: MinistroRaven on March 04, 2022, 05:54:55 AM
Today also sees the launch of the album’s first single, the epic 9 minute track ‘New Kind of Evil’. Watch the video, created by Thomas Hicks, here: https://youtu.be/GKJ7LOwhYdw
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: MinistroRaven on March 04, 2022, 06:25:08 AM
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Greg Jong comments of the track: “When Jon first played me his initial version of New Kind of Evil, I was honestly astonished by the beautiful melding of the halftime shuffle beat with such a giant yet melodious guitar riff. Then the synth line and vocal melodies entered and elevated the emotion even further — it was a really cool moment, I hope people hearing it for the first time experience a similar feeling.”
 
Jon Courtney adds: “Very excited to get the first of our new material out there in 2022. This was the first track I worked on in 2020, the embryo formed in the midst of tidal waves of uncertainty. I wanted the rollercoaster of a track to mirror that uneasiness & surreal bewilderment.”
 
Of the new album ‘Above Cirrus’, Chloë Alper comments: "Since Pure Reason Revolution's reformation I feel that this band has embraced its identity and its place within the Progressive rock genre with a force, confidence and grandeur that radiates through the work. This new record fills me with as much pride as it does head-to-toe tingles. I am excited for the music loving community to hear it and excited for the prospect of it growing our reach."
 
On ‘Above Cirrus’, the band continues many of the musical through lines that fans have come to expect; maintaining a balance between somber reflection and intrepid exploration, leading listeners through a shapeshifting collection of seven tracks that evoke a range of emotions. On the songs ‘Our Prism’ and ‘New Kind of Evil’, the energy reaches magnificent heights of guitar-led catharsis, rivaling the best efforts of acts like Tool and Filter, while offerings in ‘Lucid’ and ‘Dead Butterfly’ meld the group’s keyboard-centric song-structures with vast, epic soundscapes. But, unlike its predecessor, ‘Above Cirrus’ is far from a narrative driven concept record. As Jon confides, each song, while fueled by his personal journeys and the condition of modern times, is truly its own device. Reflecting on the lyricism of the record, he adds:
 
“Often my writing occupies itself with relationships; how we can be so tender/loving with each other in one instance, days later or even in a few flashes we’re tearing each other apart. The sublime & the savage/vicious. The music reflects this light & shade dynamic shift too. Our world shrinks through lockdowns/restrictions & strain is intensified. However, the end message is one of optimism – affirmation we’ll get to the end of this surreal chapter & be stronger together. Through the turbulence, we’ll help each other through the darkness.”

(https://i.ibb.co/w4gZkFv/unnamed.jpg)

he album will be released as Limited CD, Gatefold LP+CD & as Digital Download, featuring beautiful cover artwork by artist Jill Tegan Doherty, who previously created the cover for ‘Eupnea’. Pre-order now here: https://purereasonrevolution.lnk.to/AboveCirrus
 
The full track-listing is below:
1.Our Prism
2.New Kind of Evil
3.Phantoms
4.Cruel Deliverance
5.Scream Sideways
6.Dead Butterfly
7.Lucid
 
The band will also head out on a European tour alongside Gazpacho in April 2022. Find the full list of dates below:
8th April – Club Cann, Stuttgart, Germany
9th April – Colos-Saal, Aschaffenburg, Germany
10th April – Columbia Theater, Berlin, Germany
11th April – Die Kantine, Cologne, Germany
13th April – Mezz, Breda, Netherlands
14th April – Hedon, Zwolle, Netherlands
16th April – Petit Bain, Paris, France
17th April – Earth Theatre, London, UK
 
They have also confirmed two festival shows as below:
22nd July – Night of the Prog Festival, St. Goarshausen, Germany
14th August – United Arts Festival, Gdańsk, Poland
PURE REASON REVOLUTION online:
https://www.facebook.com/purereasonrevolution/
https://twitter.com/prr_official
https://www.instagram.com/purereasonrevolution_official/
https://www.purereasonrevolutionofficial.com
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Nekov on March 04, 2022, 07:51:18 AM
Yes!!! This makes me so happy
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: SoundscapeMN on March 04, 2022, 09:59:37 AM
 :tup
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on March 04, 2022, 01:53:42 PM
Kind of a slow-paced single, but a new album is pretty exciting!
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: emtee on March 04, 2022, 02:44:51 PM
Good song.

Been a long time since I spun The Dark Third. Their best imo.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Fritzinger on March 04, 2022, 02:59:15 PM
Exciting news!

I put on Eupnea today in anticipation of this new release. I haven't listened to it for over a year and man it's still a very good album!

As usual, I didn't listen to the single, but I did pre-order three of the limited vinyl copies from InsideOut for me and my friends  :tup
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: MinistroRaven on March 30, 2022, 12:16:55 PM
Today the band are launching a brand new single titled ‘Phantoms’. Watch the video, once again created by Thomas Hicks, here:
https://youtu.be/lJVbvYoIG0A
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Nekov on April 02, 2022, 05:00:31 AM
I liked this one a lot better than the first. I have high hopes for this one. It is a shame that Chloe won't be touring with the band this year but I guess that's just how the business is right now.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: SoundscapeMN on April 02, 2022, 10:26:01 AM
preordered Above Cirrus on bandcamp yesterday (on bandcamp Friday).
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: The Curious Orange on April 02, 2022, 03:11:19 PM
Chloe has announced that she will not be able to tour with the band this time round due to scheduling conflicts. Shame.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: SoundscapeMN on April 02, 2022, 06:07:00 PM
yeah. She is a touring member of the band James.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: SoundscapeMN on May 06, 2022, 10:33:05 AM
Above Cirrus out today

https://purereasonrevolution.bandcamp.com/album/above-cirrus

https://open.spotify.com/album/18QmmOwcTZugATzOCDCmv8
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on May 06, 2022, 11:32:19 AM
First listen was pretty good. Definitely seems like they're ramping up on the Meshuggah-esque Drop C riffs on this one, which is interesting. :P
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on May 09, 2022, 12:46:09 PM
Phantoms slaps. :metal

I don't really know why they chose New Kind Of Evil as the lead single for this one... it feels like the weakest song on the album to me.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: SoundscapeMN on May 09, 2022, 04:35:00 PM
I can kind of agree with that.

I'm still taking this album in, but I sort of agree with 1 of the comments on rateyourmusic

Quote
Their heaviest and least melodic record. It's okay, but it feels like the balance is off.

I think my favorites at this point are "Scream Sideways" and "Lucid."
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: ariich on May 09, 2022, 11:34:00 PM
No way is it the "least melodic". I always find it strange when people think of heaviness and melody as being on the same spectrum.

I'm loving the new album. It is a bit heavier, which gives it some real punch, but it's also incredibly musically rich and grand. Definitely the closest in style and sound to The Dark Third, but punchier and with some more of the industrial/electronic elements they've explored since then.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Nekov on May 10, 2022, 09:18:02 AM
Interesting. I found Eupnea to be much closer to TDT than this one. One the first couple of listens I can't say that I enjoyed the album, but it may be that it takes some time to really settle with me.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on May 18, 2022, 08:29:30 PM
This is a good album. Not as good as Eupnea, but a solid follow-up and easily my second-favorite from them (though I haven't heard their 2nd album yet). I love how dynamic Scream Sideways is (that drop into the Pink Floyd-esque funky section halfway through is great), and how smoothly the band jumps between rock and electronic instrumentation on Phantoms and Dead Butterfly. I have no idea what the spoken word sections are supposed to be about but the narrator has a cool voice.

My biggest complaints are that the first two songs are pretty weak, and the heavy riffs start to get really predictable especially towards the end of the album. I'm hoping they dial those back a bit for the next one.

Also Chloe really got demoted to backup vocalist on this one, didn't she? You could probably count on one hand the number of times she's singing by herself.

Interesting. I found Eupnea to be much closer to TDT than this one.

Same; to me the sound of this album is largely just Eupnea but with a greater emphasis on heavy riffs and electronic elements, neither of which The Dark Third really had. I should give that album another chance, my past listens of it didn't really grab me like their more recent albums have.
Title: Re: Pure Reason Revolution Appreciation
Post by: Zantera on May 19, 2022, 01:44:01 PM
They will never top The Dark Third I think but Eupnea and this new one have both been great and I'd lump them in with Amor Vincit Omnia. Hammer & Anvil isn't TERRIBLE but it's easily the worst out of the bunch and the only one I never feel like revisiting. These last 2 albums show they still have gas in the tank and I'm happy they came back.