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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: LeeHarveyKennedy on April 17, 2010, 08:42:19 PM
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Source (https://www.toolband.com/news/letter/index.php)
Members of the band are still in the process of writing new material (three days a week), and with the latest leg of the “Puscifer” tour nearing completion, it shouldn’t be long before the dry-erase board is filled with a bewildering array of color-coded intros, progressions, agitatos, con sordinos, crescendos, diatonics, inversions, resolutions, transitions, variations, obbligatos, consonance, and endings – the arrangements that millions will attempt to down-load off the internet.
There ya go, guys.
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I would really like someone to explain to me why they take so long to start working on their next album.
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Posted already elsewhere, but nice to have it at the top of its own thread.
I can't fucking wait, being the pseudo-intelligent misanthropic teenager that I am.
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Because they got lives outside of music. It's like a thing they do when they feel it's right.
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Hoping for more spiritual, existentialist, and pantheistic themes like in Lateralus.
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Because they got lives outside of music. It's like a thing they do when they feel it's right.
If you're making the kind of dough they are BECAUSE of music then it's kinda shitty to have that attitude about it. If the average Joe took that attitude about his job he'd end up homeless and probably starve to death.
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Because they got lives outside of music. It's like a thing they do when they feel it's right.
If you're making the kind of dough they are BECAUSE of music then it's kinda shitty to have that attitude about it. If the average Joe took that attitude about his job he'd end up homeless and probably starve to death.
Absolutely this. It's poor work ethic and painful for fans.
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It's not like Maynard was being lazy... he has a ton of projects he works/helps out on, not all related to music.
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It's not like Maynard was being lazy... he has a ton of projects he works/helps out on, not all related to music.
This. It's not like they just sit on their ass all day basking in their wealth, they're doing shit they enjoy. Expecting someone to only work on one thing just because it was their most successful project is ridiculous.
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i hope they release SOMETHING within the next 2 years.
they are one of my fav bands but i can get pretty impatient with them because they release an album every 5 years.
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It's not like Maynard was being lazy... he has a ton of projects he works/helps out on, not all related to music.
This. It's not like they just sit on their ass all day basking in their wealth, they're doing shit they enjoy. Expecting someone to only work on one thing just because it was their most successful project is ridiculous.
None of us can prove whether they spend their time efficiently or not but I can't think of any other band that releases such little material. Obviously i'm only complaining because I love the band so i'm sure you guys can understand the frustration.
I never said I expected them to only work on one project either I just get the impression they intentionally delay the releases of their albums, now that they've set the precedent, to add to the prestige of their upcoming releases.
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It's not like Maynard was being lazy... he has a ton of projects he works/helps out on, not all related to music.
I'm not calling him lazy but rather suggesting that since Tool is obviously the main reason he has the comfort in his life to do what he wishes when he wishes that it'd be much more gracious to try and put out albums every two or three years which is far from asking all that much. Shit, DT has wayyyy more shit going on and manages to never even go a full three years between releases.
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I hope they decide to change their sound for this record.
That's right, I went there.
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I hope they decide to change their sound for this record.
That's right, I went there.
This
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Posted already elsewhere, but nice to have it at the top of its own thread.
I can't fucking wait, being the pseudo-intelligent misanthropic teenager that I am.
Agree completely, not even ironically.
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I hope they decide to change their sound for this record.
That's right, I went there.
This
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Hopefully this album will be awesome.
I heard someone that said that 10 000 Days was made out of some riffs that had been played between songs on previous tours, and even though it doesn't bother me (since i discovered 10k days after it came out, and therefor didn't have to wait 5 years), i would feel really screwed over if it happend again. :lol
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Why? The music has to come from somewhere. Why does it matter whether inspiration hits in a rehearsal studio, a living room, or on stage?
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I'm guessing they'll either go back to the rawer sound of Opiate/Undertow, or go more ambient focused like a lot of 10K Days/APC stuff. But then it is Tool, so they could just do something completely random and awesome. This seems to be the make it or break it album, as although I loved 10K Days a lot seemed to see it as a failure.
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I'm guessing they'll either go back to the rawer sound of Opiate/Undertow, or go more ambient focused like a lot of 10K Days/APC stuff. But then it is Tool, so they could just do something completely random and awesome. This seems to be the make it or break it album, as although I loved 10K Days a lot seemed to see it as a failure.
It's not a failure but it is far inferior to Lateralus and Aenima.
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Why? The music has to come from somewhere. Why does it matter whether inspiration hits in a rehearsal studio, a living room, or on stage?
From a fan point of view, i don't think i would appreciate waiting 5 years for a new album, and then the album would consist of riffs i've already heard countless times.
Sound-wise, i do like 10 000 Days and it's production.
The drums make it sound really bad-ass. =D
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Why? The music has to come from somewhere. Why does it matter whether inspiration hits in a rehearsal studio, a living room, or on stage?
From a fan point of view, i don't think i would appreciate waiting 5 years for a new album, and then the album would consist of riffs i've already heard countless times.
If it's the best stuff they've come up with, why shouldn't they use it?
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Wasn't the comment in the OP in the other Tool album speculation thread anyway? I've seen it before, anyway, and I could've sworn it was weeks ago, perhaps even longer.
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Why? The music has to come from somewhere. Why does it matter whether inspiration hits in a rehearsal studio, a living room, or on stage?
From a fan point of view, i don't think i would appreciate waiting 5 years for a new album, and then the album would consist of riffs i've already heard countless times.
If it's the best stuff they've come up with, why shouldn't they use it?
In 10 000 days's case, it clearly wasn't.
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Why? The music has to come from somewhere. Why does it matter whether inspiration hits in a rehearsal studio, a living room, or on stage?
From a fan point of view, i don't think i would appreciate waiting 5 years for a new album, and then the album would consist of riffs i've already heard countless times.
If it's the best stuff they've come up with, why shouldn't they use it?
In 10 000 days's case, it clearly wasn't.
How do you know?
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Why? The music has to come from somewhere. Why does it matter whether inspiration hits in a rehearsal studio, a living room, or on stage?
From a fan point of view, i don't think i would appreciate waiting 5 years for a new album, and then the album would consist of riffs i've already heard countless times.
If it's the best stuff they've come up with, why shouldn't they use it?
In 10 000 days's case, it clearly wasn't.
How do you know?
Because Lateralus > 10 000 Days. :biggrin:
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Why? The music has to come from somewhere. Why does it matter whether inspiration hits in a rehearsal studio, a living room, or on stage?
From a fan point of view, i don't think i would appreciate waiting 5 years for a new album, and then the album would consist of riffs i've already heard countless times.
If it's the best stuff they've come up with, why shouldn't they use it?
In 10 000 days's case, it clearly wasn't.
How do you know?
Because Lateralus > 10 000 Days. :biggrin:
That's entirely subjective. I happen to like 10,000 Days more.
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A little off topic, but if I want to give Tool a try, which album do I start with?
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A little off topic, but if I want to give Tool a try, which album do I start with?
Lateralus
And then Aenima
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A little off topic, but if I want to give Tool a try, which album do I start with?
Lateralus
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I wish they would an album up on spotify...
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Damn, so much complaining in this thread. Not every band can put out an album every year or make the ideal album for YOU.
And I would not start with Lateralus. Aenima got me into them...
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I don't find AEnima to be very memorable at all, it's imo their worst album, and can't be compared to 10k days or Lateralus.
I know a lot of people praise it, but i don't see why.
And "you haven't listened to it enough" won't make any sense either, because i've tried countless times. ;)
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How about because people are different and like different things?
I just happen to love it and it's probably my favorite.
That said, I did like 10k Days more after listening to it more.
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Why exactly do some of you folks feel that the band (or any band) owes you something? The sense of entitlement that some of you display is mind-boggling.
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Why exactly do some of you folks feel that the band (or any band) owes you something? The sense of entitlement that some of you display is mind-boggling.
I know. I don't get it, either.
AEnima is great, Lateralus is fantastic. And heck, I really like 10,000 Days as well.
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Last three posts: :tup :tup :tup
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Er, Strawman much? No-one thinks that the band owe anyone anything. It's simply frustrating for a band to spend consistently long periods of time between albums, when compared to... well most other bands. That's all.
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Why exactly do some of you folks feel that the band (or any band) owes you something? The sense of entitlement that some of you display is mind-boggling.
Well, I don't know about anyone else, but Maynard came to me personally in a dream and said he would deliver me a new album to ease my existential agony.
He also told me he's writing a one-act play called Yummy Yummy In My Tummy.
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In all honesty, judging by the pattern of how many excellent albums (all of them) they've had over mediocre albums (none of them), I will say that if this is what it takes to come up with music they have in the past, why change their methods? It seems to work every time.
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Because they could make more money and more music if they tried more frequently? I doubt it would be of any lesser quality. All I was saying in the first place is that its a shame that we have to wait for 5 years for the next album to come out, nothing more.
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Now someone needs to make the argument how making music should never be about the money, but the music itself.
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It's not like it takes 5 years for them to write the music, and they're not really touring more then other bands.
The reason they're slow, is because Maynard has several other side-projects (none of them really interesting), which he focuses on more then Tool it seems. :P
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You guys think all their albums are connected and tell a story?
Undertow is a person who has reached the bottom of life, bottom of the barrel, they feel they need cleansing.
Aenema is the cleansing process of the mind looking inward into one's demons. In turn they open their eyes and have a spiritual awakening.
Lateralus, here they experience this awakening through confronting ones self. It's hard, they want to give up but patience is a virtue to pass this test, so they pass the test and becomes aware and in a way enlightened.
10,000 Days is this person looking at the world with a new outlook on life, a new pair of eyes, and sees the problems of this world and wonders why is the world like this.
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Yeah, Octavarium is a concept album.
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Uh, no. As famously stated on this forum, "every album is a concept album, you just have to over-analyze it enough."
I mean, I could see where you get those ideas, and some of them sound like they could be connected. But Hooker With A Penis is about a conflict with a fan, 10,000 Days is about Maynard's mother, Rosetta Stoned is about a dude who gets high and sees an alien who tells him about the end of the world, etc. :P
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I see Lateralus' general concept as seperating the mind from the body, and realizing the pantheistic connection between everything.
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^Yup it is. Which is why its spacey.
10,000 Days sounds more raw and back to Earth.
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It's all about the aliens.
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It's all about the aliens and Jesus.
Fix'd.
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Er, Strawman much? No-one thinks that the band owe anyone anything. It's simply frustrating for a band to spend consistently long periods of time between albums, when compared to... well most other bands. That's all.
When the word "gracious" gets busted out in this context, yes it is about entitlement and being owed something.
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Damn, so much complaining in this thread. Not every band can put out an album every year or make the ideal album for YOU.
And I would not start with Lateralus. Aenima got me into them...
I think the enormous time between albums complaint is totally valid. The dissenters aren't bitching for Tool not putting out an album every year but rather that since Undertow came out in '93 we've gotten 3 albums in 17 years.
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Er, Strawman much? No-one thinks that the band owe anyone anything. It's simply frustrating for a band to spend consistently long periods of time between albums, when compared to... well most other bands. That's all.
Quoted for truth, it is completely reasonable to expect more from your favourite bands. Expecially when their output has been just 3 albums in 17 years.
I'm not sure why people have been shut down in this thread for wanting more output and not being able to get into Aenima.
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This might just be a Tool fanboy answer (well, it definitely is) but it does sort of add to the whole air of mystery surrounding everything that Tool do, because their methods are so unorthodox and the waits for new material so long.
On another note, while Lateralus is probably my favourite Tool album/favourite album ever, on a purely song by song basis (excluding 'non-songs') Aenima is easily as good, if not maybe even better, in my opinion. Every single song on Aenima is near perfect, and it's maybe a bit more varied than Lateralus lyrically too.
Also, while I think 10,000 Days is a great collection of Tool songs, I don't think it's quite as great as being a Tool album. The appeal of Opiate through Lateralus to me is that they had this perfect flow and, more importantly, feel to them, that was unique to every release, that I don't quite think 10,000 Days managed to capture, at least for me. The track order also doesn't help, with the epic title track(s) being so close to the start of the album. So while I agree that 10,000 Days has some fantastic Tool songs (Vicarious, 10,000 Days, RIGHT IN TWO) Lateralus and Aenima, and even Undertow and Opiate just seem to have a more consistent and engaging flow, which is what I want from the new album.
[/Rant demonstrating Tool fans' pretentiousness]
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it is completely reasonable to expect more from your favourite bands. Expecially when their output has been just 3 albums in 17 years.
If you know they've only put out 3 albums in 17 years, then by what definition of "reasonable" is it reasonable to expect more?
It is certainly reasonable to want more, but it defies logic to expect more.
BTW, I like Tool, but I'm no die-hard fan or anything. I'm speaking in general terms, not just Tool.
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it is completely reasonable to expect more from your favourite bands. Expecially when their output has been just 3 albums in 17 years.
If you know they've only put out 3 albums in 17 years, then by what definition of "reasonable" is it reasonable to expect more?
It is certainly reasonable to want more, but it defies logic to expect more.
BTW, I like Tool, but I'm no die-hard fan or anything. I'm speaking in general terms, not just Tool.
Thanks, Hef. This is exactly what I was going to say but didn't have the energy to type it out :P
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I'd like that energy back now please. I have entered the long dark teatime of the soul (i.e., sleepy at work).
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I don't find AEnima to be very memorable at all, it's imo their worst album, and can't be compared to 10k days or Lateralus.
I know a lot of people praise it, but i don't see why.
And "you haven't listened to it enough" won't make any sense either, because i've tried countless times. ;)
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I don't find AEnima to be very memorable at all, it's imo their worst album, and can't be compared to 10k days or Lateralus.
I know a lot of people praise it, but i don't see why.
And "you haven't listened to it enough" won't make any sense either, because i've tried countless times. ;)
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Huge, huge, huge disagree. Aenima is so different to Lateralus but almost as, if not as good as, it in my opinion. I would suggest listen to it more as it took FOREVER to grow on me, but fair enough if you have tried, I suppose it's just not for you.
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Huge, huge, huge disagree. Aenima is so different to Lateralus but almost as, if not as good as, it in my opinion. I would suggest listen to it more as it took FOREVER to grow on me, but fair enough if you have tried, I suppose it's just not for you.
Well, personally i think its too weird for my taste. ;)
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As for the long wait between albums, one should also keep in mind that they tour a lot. Certainly more than most bands. Not only will they play fairly obscure places, but they'll play them multiple times. While it might be 5 years between albums, you generally get two very long tours, then a shorter summer tour before they really hunker down for a while. I'm pretty happy with 1 album and 3 concerts every 5 years. I'm damn sure that the folks in Corpus Christie and Beaumont Tx appreciate their efforts.
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Huge, huge, huge disagree. Aenima is so different to Lateralus but almost as, if not as good as, it in my opinion. I would suggest listen to it more as it took FOREVER to grow on me, but fair enough if you have tried, I suppose it's just not for you.
Well, personally i think its too weird for my taste. ;)
Aenima is weird??
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Aenima is probably their most straightforward :lol (and I mean that in a good way)
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As for the long wait between albums, one should also keep in mind that they tour a lot. Certainly more than most bands. Not only will they play fairly obscure places, but they'll play them multiple times. While it might be 5 years between albums, you generally get two very long tours, then a shorter summer tour before they really hunker down for a while. I'm pretty happy with 1 album and 3 concerts every 5 years. I'm damn sure that the folks in Corpus Christie and Beaumont Tx appreciate their efforts.
They certainly don't in the UK. They played Glasgow, Manchester and London last tour (something like 2005). Very typical cities to play gigs in.
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Huge, huge, huge disagree. Aenima is so different to Lateralus but almost as, if not as good as, it in my opinion. I would suggest listen to it more as it took FOREVER to grow on me, but fair enough if you have tried, I suppose it's just not for you.
Well, personally i think its too weird for my taste. ;)
Aenima is weird??
Uhm.. Die Eier von Satan is a good example of it.
When i think about it, Ænima has some great tracks, but overall i don't really like the 'filler'-tracks on the album, and i do have a small problem with the guitars/vocals on the cd, that from time-to-time sounds 'weird'.
Overall, i guess this album feels less progressive to me compared to Lateralus for example, and that is why i don't like it as much.
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Huge, huge, huge disagree. Aenima is so different to Lateralus but almost as, if not as good as, it in my opinion. I would suggest listen to it more as it took FOREVER to grow on me, but fair enough if you have tried, I suppose it's just not for you.
Well, personally i think its too weird for my taste. ;)
Aenima is weird??
Uhm.. Die Eier von Satan is a good example of it.
When i think about it, Ænima has some great tracks, but overall i don't really like the 'filler'-tracks on the album, and i do have a small problem with the guitars/vocals on the cd, that from time-to-time sounds 'weird'.
Overall, i guess this album feels less progressive to me compared to Lateralus for example, and that is why i don't like it as much.
The filler tracks are completely useless on Aenima but that is my only knock on the album. All the actual songs are great, if the fillers annoy you that much I would burn an album without them and listen to that or just skip them like I do.
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Aenima is probably their most straightforward :lol (and I mean that in a good way)
Not more straightforward than Opiate or Undertow.
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Yeah, I agree.
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Aenima is probably their most straightforward :lol (and I mean that in a good way)
Not more straightforward than Opiate or Undertow.
Opiate perhaps but people tend to forget that Undertow was actually still fairly proggy, the title track being a case in point. On a side note, they're now my favourite band and Lateralus my favourite album.
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THESE ARE THE CRIES OF THE CARROTS.
What could be more straightforward than that?
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THESE ARE THE CRIES OF THE CARROTS.
What could be more straightforward than that?
Best preacher ever.
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Meh.
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Okay, so Vicarious is my new favourite song to play and my new favourite hard rock song of all time. Perfection, aside from the lyrics.
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Meh.
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Okay, so Vicarious is my new favourite song to play and my new favourite hard rock song of all time. Perfection, aside from the lyrics.
Whats wrong with the lyrics?
I don't love them myself, but i don't really have a problem with them.
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Yeah I think they're okay, I suppose I just prefer Maynard to be more abstract (read: pretentious)
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Aenima is probably their most straightforward :lol (and I mean that in a good way)
Not more straightforward than Opiate or Undertow.
Opiate perhaps but people tend to forget that Undertow was actually still fairly proggy, the title track being a case in point.
None of this proves it to be less straightforward than Ænima. It's still more straightforward by the manner in which it doesn't have filler tracks mixed into the tracks but only as a silly and lengthy wait until the (not-so-)hidden track. Also the prog argument is completely turned against your comment when you look at Eulogy and Third Eye alone. Beyond that most Undertow songs are based primarily on riffs and don't have a bunch of atmospheric dynamics interspersed into the songs but only passingly as a brief intro like in the case of Prison Sex.
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Aenima is probably their most straightforward :lol (and I mean that in a good way)
Not more straightforward than Opiate or Undertow.
Opiate perhaps but people tend to forget that Undertow was actually still fairly proggy, the title track being a case in point.
None of this proves it to be less straightforward than Ænima. It's still more straightforward by the manner in which it doesn't have filler tracks mixed into the tracks but only as a silly and lengthy wait until the (not-so-)hidden track. Also the prog argument is completely turned against your comment when you look at Eulogy and Third Eye alone. Beyond that most Undertow songs are based primarily on riffs and don't have a bunch of atmospheric dynamics interspersed into the songs but only passingly as a brief intro like in the case of Prison Sex.
I'm not saying it's as proggy or proggier than Aenima at all, I'm just saying people seem to think it is ENTIRELY riff based and in 4/4 et cetera. It's not, it's more complex than people think.
Side note: I can't decide whether 10,000 Days or Lateralus is better musically (the albums, not the songs). Because 10,000 Days has Vicarious and Jambi which are two of their most complex works, and Right in Two has some nice polyrhythmic stuff at the end. But then Lateralus has Schism, probably their most complex arrangement, the title track and Ticks and Leeches. I'd probably give it to Lateralus, but bear in mind how CRAZILY complicated Jambi is, I never realised until I tried to learn it on guitar and realised it was polyrhythms galore.
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Tool will be touring this summer. hopefully they'll come here
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Tool will be touring this summer. hopefully they'll come here
Link!??!
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From Tool's website
TOOL SUMMER TOUR DATES
We can now confirm 2 Tool shows in Canada:
REXALL PLACE
EDMONTON
WEDNESDAY, JULY 7, 2010
GENERAL MOTORS PLACE
VANCOUVER BC
FRIDAY, JULY 9th
TICKETS ON-SALE THIS FRIDAY, APRIL 30 AT 10:00 AM
MORE CONFIRMED DATES WILL GO ON SALE MAY 8th. STAY TUNED FOR ADDITIONAL CITIES.
COME ON WASHINGTON DATE!
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From Tool's website
TOOL SUMMER TOUR DATES
We can now confirm 2 Tool shows in Canada:
REXALL PLACE
EDMONTON
WEDNESDAY, JULY 7, 2010
GENERAL MOTORS PLACE
VANCOUVER BC
FRIDAY, JULY 9th
TICKETS ON-SALE THIS FRIDAY, APRIL 30 AT 10:00 AM
MORE CONFIRMED DATES WILL GO ON SALE MAY 8th. STAY TUNED FOR ADDITIONAL CITIES.
COME ON NEW YORK DATE!
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I wonder if they come to Denver. Some bands do, but not usually the ones I want to see :|
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I wonder if they come to Denver. Some bands do, but not usually the ones I want to see :|
Tool plays everywhere, and that includes Denver.
If they are doing a full blown tour, I think it's probably too soon. The last one seemed like it was merely a cash grab. While the band was fantastic as always, Maynard definitely left his give-a-shit at home, and it really showed. As much as people rag on them for taking too much time between albums, I'd prefer they spend a little more between tours if it means half-assed performances.
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Agreed.. but cool that they come here. PT doesn't :( :(
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I'm hoping to have a list of tour dates this Monday (MAY 3rd), though perhaps you'll hear some special announcements on your local radio station first.
https://www.toolband.com/index_frames.html
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PLEASE UK PLEASE.
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I'm hoping to have a list of tour dates this Monday (MAY 3rd), though perhaps you'll hear some special announcements on your local radio station first.
https://www.toolband.com/index_frames.html
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:D
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Son of a bitch. Once again, no So Cal tour dates. :sadpanda:
DISREGARD THAT I SUCK COCKS
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How do you know? I thought they were announcing tomorrow.
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:facepalm: I clicked think link, and saw the first list of dates, which were not shows, but screenings of some wine documentary. HERP DERP DERP I R GUD AT INTERNET
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:rollin
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Toolshed.down has 3 more unconfirmed dates.
Summer 2010 Mini-tour
? June 19 - New Orleans, LA - UNO Lakefront Arena - -----
? June 20 - Houston, TX - ?? - -----
? June 23 - Oklahoma City, OK - ?? - -----
July 7 - Edmonton, AB - Rexall Place - -----
July 9 - Vancouver, BC - General Motors Place - -----
And then : Probably more dates to come!
It would sure be nice (though unexpected) if there were a Dallas date. If it's another "going through the motions" tour, I'll probably pass on traveling, spending money, missing a day of work, etc.
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Goddammit, they'll be in NOLA right before I get there.
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Goddammit, they'll be in NOLA right before I get there.
The folks at Toolshed were very clear "DON'T PLAN YOUR LIFE AROUND THESE DATES!" These are highly unconfirmed, and while I trust this site, it wouldn't be surprising if the dates were slightly different.
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Yeah I think they're okay, I suppose I just prefer Maynard to be more abstract (read: pretentious)
But you have to admit the lyrics to Vicarious are a nice breather from what he usually writes...he can't be "abstract" all the time.
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Goddammit, they'll be in NOLA right before I get there.
The folks at Toolshed were very clear "DON'T PLAN YOUR LIFE AROUND THESE DATES!" These are highly unconfirmed, and while I trust this site, it wouldn't be surprising if the dates were slightly different.
Oh yeah, I realize that.
I have a feeling the dates are going to screw me over, like they'll be playing NOLA while I'm still in Denver, Denver right after I leave for Jersey and Jersey/NYC while I'm in NOLA :lol
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^^That happened to me when David Gilmour last toured. He played LA when I was in Chicago and Chicago when I was in LA >:(
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Lame lame lame.
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Why the FUCK is NOLA getting good concerts again now that I'm stuck 900 miles away in godforsaken NC?!?!?! >:(
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Yeah I think they're okay, I suppose I just prefer Maynard to be more abstract (read: pretentious)
But you have to admit the lyrics to Vicarious are a nice breather from what he usually writes...he can't be "abstract" all the time.
Yeah, that's a fair point I guess, it's nice that you know from the first line what the song's about then it elaborates from there.
Also: NO UK DATES. >:(
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Ticketmaster confirms the OKC date, and added Austin, St Paul and two more Canadian dates.
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Karnivool sounds like a better version of Tool, then Tool themselves. :neverusethis:
Should listen to Lateralus again, that album is seriously awesome when you listen to it in headphones.
Parabol>Parabola is brilliant. (like all of the album)
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Karnivool sounds like a better version of Tool, then Tool themselves. :neverusethis:
Should listen to Lateralus again, that album is seriously awesome when you listen to it in headphones.
Parabol>Parabola is brilliant. (like all of the album)
Best album ever imo.
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Okay, now where are the rest of the dates?? :(
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Sat 6/19 - New Orleans, LA @ UNO Arena
Sun 6/20 - Houston, TX @ Toyota Center
Tues 6/22 - Cedar Park, TX @ Cedar Park Center
Wed 6/23 - Oklahoma City, OK @ Ford Arena
Fri 6/25 - Kansas City, MO @ Sprint Center
Sat 6/26 - St. Charles, MO @ Family Arena
Thur 7/1 - St. Paul, MN @ Xcel Center
Sun 7/4 - Winnipeg, MB @ MTS Centre
Mon 7/5 - Regina, SK @ Brandt Centre
Wed 7/7 - Edmonton, AB @ Rexall Place
Fri 7/9 - Vancouver, BC @ GM Place
Mon 7/12 - San Francisco, CA @ Bill Graham Civic
Where are the northeast dates....
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Sat 6/19 - New Orleans, LA @ UNO Arena
Sun 6/20 - Houston, TX @ Toyota Center
Tues 6/22 - Cedar Park, TX @ Cedar Park Center
Wed 6/23 - Oklahoma City, OK @ Ford Arena
Fri 6/25 - Kansas City, MO @ Sprint Center
Sat 6/26 - St. Charles, MO @ Family Arena
Thur 7/1 - St. Paul, MN @ Xcel Center
Sun 7/4 - Winnipeg, MB @ MTS Centre
Mon 7/5 - Regina, SK @ Brandt Centre
Wed 7/7 - Edmonton, AB @ Rexall Place
Fri 7/9 - Vancouver, BC @ GM Place
Mon 7/12 - San Francisco, CA @ Bill Graham Civic
Where is the Washington date!?
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Sat 6/19 - New Orleans, LA @ UNO Arena
Sun 6/20 - Houston, TX @ Toyota Center
Tues 6/22 - Cedar Park, TX @ Cedar Park Center
Wed 6/23 - Oklahoma City, OK @ Ford Arena
Fri 6/25 - Kansas City, MO @ Sprint Center
Sat 6/26 - St. Charles, MO @ Family Arena
Thur 7/1 - St. Paul, MN @ Xcel Center
Sun 7/4 - Winnipeg, MB @ MTS Centre
Mon 7/5 - Regina, SK @ Brandt Centre
Wed 7/7 - Edmonton, AB @ Rexall Place
Fri 7/9 - Vancouver, BC @ GM Place
Mon 7/12 - San Francisco, CA @ Bill Graham Civic
Where is the New York date!?
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Got my San Fran date :hat
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I hate you so much right now.
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Well, this is definitely not a complete list so I wouldn't worry about it... unless they don't usually come to WA.
Judging by the dates here I would probably have to catch them on the east coast anyway, and I know they'll play NYC so I should be good unless they're there when I'm in NOLA which seems unlikely. So yay. I haven't seen Tool since high school when they toured with Fantomas.
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UK?! ANYONE?! WE DO EXIST!
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Well, this is definitely not a complete list so I wouldn't worry about it... unless they don't usually come to WA.
Judging by the dates here I would probably have to catch them on the east coast anyway, and I know they'll play NYC so I should be good unless they're there when I'm in NOLA which seems unlikely. So yay. I haven't seen Tool since high school when they toured with Fantomas.
:hefdaddy ENVY IS ME :hefdaddy
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I actually did not enjoy Fantomas. I like some of their stuff now but can only take it in small doses :lol
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That's understandable. :lol
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Okay, now I'm going to ask.
Sat 6/19 - New Orleans, LA @ UNO Arena
Sun 6/20 - Houston, TX @ Toyota Center
Tues 6/22 - Cedar Park, TX @ Cedar Park Center
Wed 6/23 - Oklahoma City, OK @ Ford Arena
Fri 6/25 - Kansas City, MO @ Sprint Center
Sat 6/26 - St. Charles, MO @ Family Arena
Thur 7/1 - St. Paul, MN @ Xcel Center
Sun 7/4 - Winnipeg, MB @ MTS Centre
Mon 7/5 - Regina, SK @ Brandt Centre
Wed 7/7 - Edmonton, AB @ Rexall Place
Fri 7/9 - Vancouver, BC @ GM Place
Mon 7/12 - San Francisco, CA @ Bill Graham Civic
Where is the New York date!?
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Okay, now I'm going to ask.
Sat 6/19 - New Orleans, LA @ UNO Arena
Sun 6/20 - Houston, TX @ Toyota Center
Tues 6/22 - Cedar Park, TX @ Cedar Park Center
Wed 6/23 - Oklahoma City, OK @ Ford Arena
Fri 6/25 - Kansas City, MO @ Sprint Center
Sat 6/26 - St. Charles, MO @ Family Arena
Thur 7/1 - St. Paul, MN @ Xcel Center
Sun 7/4 - Winnipeg, MB @ MTS Centre
Mon 7/5 - Regina, SK @ Brandt Centre
Wed 7/7 - Edmonton, AB @ Rexall Place
Fri 7/9 - Vancouver, BC @ GM Place
Mon 7/12 - San Francisco, CA @ Bill Graham Civic
Where is the New York date!?
I fail to see how a band as big as Tool can do a United States tour without hitting New York or somewhere in the surrounding area. Last time through on a headlining tour they played New Jersey and maybe one other date around here... but there were local dates nonetheless. They'll probably release east coast dates in a separate group, like Megadeth, and I think Iron Maiden did.
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Yeah, I know they have to come but I want to know NOW because I'm going to be in at least three different states this summer and the suspense about whether or not it's going to work out is killing me :lol
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Yeah, I know they have to come but I want to know NOW because I'm going to be in at least three different states this summer and the suspense about whether or not it's going to work out is killing me :lol
I just hope the dates won't interfere with my other two August concerts and/or my vacation at the end of July to the beginning of August. Tool seems to me like a band that would be amazing live. Between the pure skill and talent, to how much I like the music, to the amazing show they will put on, I must see them.
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it's a summer tour, so i'm guessing pnc.
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Nooo don't say that :(
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Looks like I may be staying in Denver an extra week because they're playing at Red Rocks!!
(a few more dates up if y'all haven't seen them yet- https://www.toolband.com/tour/index.html)
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UK?! ANYONE?! WE DO EXIST!
Where?
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Looks like I may be staying in Denver an extra week because they're playing at Red Rocks!!
(a few more dates up if y'all haven't seen them yet- https://www.toolband.com/tour/index.html)
I'd try like hell to score tickets to both shows if I were you. They'll sell out so you can resell one pair pretty easily and maybe turn a bit of a profit. More importantly, you'll want two shots at getting close up seats. As I've said in other threads, beyond about 20 rows or so, you see over the top of the stage and it's not quite the same. I can only imagine that with Tool's traditional staging, it'd be even more problematic since you need to be able to see the back of the stage. I'd still go even if I had last row, but to be able to appreciate all of it, you really need to be pretty close to the stage.
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UK?! ANYONE?! WE DO EXIST!
Where?
Touché.
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Looks like I may be staying in Denver an extra week because they're playing at Red Rocks!!
(a few more dates up if y'all haven't seen them yet- https://www.toolband.com/tour/index.html)
I'd try like hell to score tickets to both shows if I were you. They'll sell out so you can resell one pair pretty easily and maybe turn a bit of a profit. More importantly, you'll want two shots at getting close up seats. As I've said in other threads, beyond about 20 rows or so, you see over the top of the stage and it's not quite the same. I can only imagine that with Tool's traditional staging, it'd be even more problematic since you need to be able to see the back of the stage. I'd still go even if I had last row, but to be able to appreciate all of it, you really need to be pretty close to the stage.
I don't really have the time right now to worry about selling tickets (not to mention money :() so I'll probably just buy one... as for up close, I'll see what I can do but am really trying to not spend a lot of money.
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Well, they sold out in 14 minutes and I missed it. And I am so annoyed at how many overpriced postings there are on eBay and Craigslist. No offense Barto, but shit like what you suggested to me is the reason these things sell out so quickly, and then people like me who really want to go but can't afford to pay (or don't want to pay because it's FUCKING RIDICULOUS) $100 for one seat in the back row get totally screwed :(
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No offense Barto, but shit like what you suggested to me is the reason these things sell out so quickly, and then people like me who really want to go but can't afford to pay (or don't want to pay because it's FUCKING RIDICULOUS) $100 for one seat in the back row get totally screwed :(
Nonsense. There's a big difference between professional scalpers and people whop buy tickets for themselves they might not use. I've sold tickets for face value (as one fellow DTFer can vouch for), and I've bought tickets for face value . The people you have a problem with are probably only 10 or so who buy up half of any big name concert, and the bastards at TM who allow them to do so. I'm not real fond of them either.
Sorry you didn't get seats, BTW. I had the exact same problem here when they played MacFarlan about 5 years ago. If I could have gotten nosebleed for $100, I would have been all over it.
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Yeah, but NONE of these people are selling tickets at face value. There are 138 results for this show on eBay right now. Three of them start the bidding at $0.99 but someone can buy it now for $100+ at any time. One ticket is at $61 with two days left. Everything after that is over $100. Same on Craigslist- everyone is asking for $100+ per ticket. So I have no idea where these "fans" who just bought an extra ticket or two are, but I cannot justify spending that much money on this.
Man, I wish this was Jersey or another state where they actually have laws against jacking up prices too much.
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Yeah, but NONE of these people are selling tickets at face value. There are 138 results for this show on eBay right now. Three of them start the bidding at $0.99 but someone can buy it now for $100+ at any time. One ticket is at $61 with two days left. Everything after that is over $100. Same on Craigslist- everyone is asking for $100+ per ticket. So I have no idea where these "fans" who just bought an extra ticket or two are, but I cannot justify spending that much money on this.
Man, I wish this was Jersey or another state where they actually have laws against jacking up prices too much.
At this point, I'd suggest approaching it from a different direction. There are at least 10 pairs of tickets with BIN prices between $200-$225, many of them are great seats. I see a pair of row 17s going for $219+free shipping. A few weeks before the show, you'd probably be able to sell the second one for at least $150, making the first considerably less than face value.
I'll also point out that looking at the original prices, the cheapest you would have gotten nosebleed seats from TM for is about $70, so we're really not talking about a huge markup here. After factoring in the service charges, some of these seats are looking like real bargains. Don't get me wrong, I'm very sympathetic to your cause, I'll probably not see this show at all because of funding issues, but the secondary market for this one is actually looking much better than most other concerts I've seen.
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Actually listening to "Eulogy" as I type this. :metal
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Actually listening to "Eulogy" as I type this. :metal
:metal :metal
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I'm listening to Passive, which is better than about 3 or 4 Tool songs probably, and is easily my favourite APC song.
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Yeah, but NONE of these people are selling tickets at face value. There are 138 results for this show on eBay right now. Three of them start the bidding at $0.99 but someone can buy it now for $100+ at any time. One ticket is at $61 with two days left. Everything after that is over $100. Same on Craigslist- everyone is asking for $100+ per ticket. So I have no idea where these "fans" who just bought an extra ticket or two are, but I cannot justify spending that much money on this.
Man, I wish this was Jersey or another state where they actually have laws against jacking up prices too much.
At this point, I'd suggest approaching it from a different direction. There are at least 10 pairs of tickets with BIN prices between $200-$225, many of them are great seats. I see a pair of row 17s going for $219+free shipping. A few weeks before the show, you'd probably be able to sell the second one for at least $150, making the first considerably less than face value.
I'll also point out that looking at the original prices, the cheapest you would have gotten nosebleed seats from TM for is about $70, so we're really not talking about a huge markup here. After factoring in the service charges, some of these seats are looking like real bargains. Don't get me wrong, I'm very sympathetic to your cause, I'll probably not see this show at all because of funding issues, but the secondary market for this one is actually looking much better than most other concerts I've seen.
Well, the cheapest tickets were $50. With Ticketmaster charges that would've been $63 ($10+$3 per ticket in charges according to my CSN receipt). Those are going for $100 or more. That's a big markup to me.
Do I have $100? Yeah. Do I want to spend forty extra bucks on a seat in row 65? No.
Also, do I really want to support this "business" by buying a ticket from someone who has jacked up the price?
I dunno. This just pisses me off. I guess $110 is okay for a row 17 seat, but don't think it's worth it.
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Assuming that you would have spent the $85-90 on that row 17 seat if you'd gotten it from TM. The markup on the eBay one really is pretty reasonable.
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Eh, but I probably wouldn't have spent that much on it in the first place. $85 is a lot (that's what it would have been since that seat would be $70), and that's $30 more. Reasonable? I'm not so sure. To me there's nothing reasonable about me having to pay $30 extra because a bunch of assholes bought up all of the extra tickets to make a profit at others' expense. I know $30 doesn't seem like much, but that's a trip to the damn grocery store right there.
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Eh, but I probably wouldn't have spent that much on it in the first place. $85 is a lot (that's what it would have been since that seat would be $70), and that's $30 more. Reasonable? I'm not so sure. To me there's nothing reasonable about me having to pay $30 extra because a bunch of assholes bought up all of the extra tickets to make a profit at others' expense. I know $30 doesn't seem like much, but that's a trip to the damn grocery store right there.
Certainly understandable. Again, I'm sympathetic to your cause. Part of the problem is that while TM at one point sold that $85 17th row seat, they wouldn't have sold it to you. I've been consistantly shut out by TM the last 4 or 5 times I've tried to get decent tickets. Now they're charging extra for bogus presales that don't really get you anything better. I'm not crazy about the scalpers, but at this point, just like the 33% fuck-you-charges, it's just part of the game. You've just got to learn to play it, sadly.
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Fuck the game!!
But yeah, I know what you mean. And no, they never give you any good friggin' seats. That's why I'm glad I got my ZPZ tickets in person- I asked for it, and I got two front row balcony seats for $59... without any shitty charges. Unfortunately that's not an option for Red Rocks.
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Okay, I am officially going. Bid simultaneously on two auctions and got two separate tickets, so my friend is also going to come and sit a few rows behind me (or we can try to work something out)... only paid $185 for the two, so it wasn't too bad.
:caffeine:
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Okay, I am officially going. Bid simultaneously on two auctions and got two separate tickets, so my friend is also going to come and sit a few rows behind me (or we can try to work something out)... only paid $185 for the two, so it wasn't too bad.
:caffeine:
SELLOUT!!!
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:metal
I hope they announce Eastern United States dates!
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Okay, I am officially going. Bid simultaneously on two auctions and got two separate tickets, so my friend is also going to come and sit a few rows behind me (or we can try to work something out)... only paid $185 for the two, so it wasn't too bad.
:caffeine:
SELLOUT!!!
:lol, please. Honestly, if I thought I'd get this chance again I probably wouldn't have spent so much time bothering, but who the fuck knows. And that isn't much more than tickets cost with all the fees. But I am gonna keep my eyes peeled for closer seats that aren't outrageous (there are some auctions going right now that aren't crazy yet)... if I got more, my friend's fiance could also come.
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So the seller who I got the tickets from (two singles) offered to instead give me two seats together... but they're about ten rows back from the closer row I already have the ticket for. I want to sit with my friend and I've been consistently told there isn't a bad seat in the house, but I still don't want to move back. I worked hard to get that seat! :lol
I think I can keep looking for closer seats together and cross my fingers.
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I'd say the opposite about "not a bad seat in the house." I'd say there's the front 25 or so, and then everything else. I suppose that could mean that moving back ten rows from 45 wouldn't matter, but for this one, you'll really want to be as close as possible. Red Rocks' website has a seating chart with POV pictures from about 15 of the sections. That'll give you an idea. My experience was that there's a point where you stop being a part of the concert and start being more into the venue; they really compete for your attention. I figure that point is right where you stop being below the roof of the stage, and start being above it, which is 2/3 of the venue. Once you see over the top of the stage, it's a different atmosphere.
Also keep in mind that the wind can really fuck with the sound a lot in that place. It'll start swirling and the sound will rise and fall dramatically.
You never mentioned what seats you're talking about.
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Oh yeah, oops! haha... right now our seats are in 35 and 41.. the ones he has are 46.
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Oh yeah, oops! haha... right now our seats are in 35 and 41.. the ones he has are 46.
Check out the sightline over the top of the roof. There's no way I'd move back those 10 rows.
https://www.redrocksonline.com/pages/questions/seating.html# (https://www.redrocksonline.com/pages/questions/seating.html#)
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True, that does make a difference... although won't it be dark anyway?
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True, that does make a difference... although won't it be dark anyway?
Don't underestimate that view. They keep the rocks lit up a lot, and the skyline behind that stage is every single bit of Denver, damn near all the way to the airport.
I'll point out that I loved the venue; it's a fantastic place to see a show and I'd recommend seeing anybody there from any place in the venue. There's just a big difference between the sections, and depending on what concert you're seeing, it might be quite important. If you just want to go and get fucked up and frolic half nekkid while 80's hair bands play, then anywhere is great because the atmosphere is so bad ass. (great parking lot partying scene, as well) If you're going to see a band that you actually want to get into, like Tool, then that atmosphere will be distracting from the show itself.
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Understood... yeah, I want to get as close as I can so I told the guy thanks but no thanks... I was going to bid on some really good seats that were not too pricey a little while ago (I figure I can probably get some of the extra I pay back if I sell these other tickets, although I am not trying to make a big profit on them and would probably start the bidding low) until I saw $15 shipping. Fuck that.
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So uh... how many more tickets do you need to buy to be in possession of the whole venue?
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Damn, selling out a little more every day, are we?
I suspect the value of the two you have will increase slightly as the show approaches. I'd certainly try to parlay them into something better. Keep in mind though, at some point, I imagine around row 20-25, the face value of the tickets jumped up, therefore, the resale value will as well. I'd try to find out where that point was, so I'd know where the point of diminishing return is.
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So uh... how many more tickets do you need to buy to be in possession of the whole venue?
:lol
I only have two! I just want better seats!
Damn, selling out a little more every day, are we?
Like I said, it's not about making a profit but if I pay extra for another pair of tickets I'm obviously not going to argue with someone who wants to pay a little more than I did for the ones I have now. But I would never start the bidding at these ridiculous prices others have up, or ask people to buy it now for $400 or something... totally crazy, can't believe people are actually listing tickets for that much especially over a month before the show. Maybe if they were front row or something. Maybe. But I honestly don't see the big deal about front row tbh.
But yeah, hopefully I will be able to get my friend and I some seats together.
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I hope they announce dates near New York, but I hope the dates aren't closely following the announcement. I'll feel relieved if/when they do announce dates over here, but I'm in $500 debt to my bank account (college/car money) from all the tickets I bought, so I'll be able to work on that and then be in a better position to buy the tickets when they go on sale.
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Oy! Good luck with that. I'm kinda glad I won't be seeing them in NY again.
edit: Jesus!
https://cgi.ebay.com/2-tickets-Tool-Red-Rocks-6-28-10-/260606649892?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Tickets_all_in_one&hash=item3cad5de624#ht_500wt_1149
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Oy! Good luck with that. I'm kinda glad I won't be seeing them in NY again.
edit: Jesus!
https://cgi.ebay.com/2-tickets-Tool-Red-Rocks-6-28-10-/260606649892?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Tickets_all_in_one&hash=item3cad5de624#ht_500wt_1149
I saw The Who about 10 years ago. I had second row seats. The guys in front of me were the perfect caricatures of yuppy asshole douchebags. There were four of them, and I guarantee you they're the sort that would have paid that and not thought twice about it. (Down here they're called 30k millionaires) Hooting, hollering, and sloshing beer all hell over the place. If this guy can sell those two tickets, he covers the cost of every other ticket he bought for both shows, and there are plenty of people who will shell out to see them play Sober, especially if they can be seen in the front row.
Interesting conclusion to the yuppy fuck-tards. One of them was being so obnoxious that Pete actually asked for him to be removed from the front row as he was being a distraction. The other three toned down their act but were still annoying. Then, during a song they didn't care about, they went off to buy beer. When they returned, they each had beers in each hand and a pair of smoking hot jailbait girls in tow. Even weirder, the young ladies were far more distracting. Pete commented twice in between songs "what a lovely, lovely pair of young ladies they were. Really, just beautiful." The man was absolutely captivated by them.
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:lol, wow... I just can't believe people would pay that much. IT'S ROW 15!
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I actually hope that Tool says "We're gonna tour the Eastern United States, but not until Fall/early Winter", because that'll give me time to work out of my $481 debt (keep in mind I'm in high school and have no job... so that's quite a sum of money). Mostly because of damn expensive ticket prices. >:( But, seriously, do you guys have any ideas of how can get some money (inb4 rob a bank, mug someone, etc... ...this is actually kinda serious (not to derail the thread though)).
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So as of last week, I ordered my ticket to see Tool on July 10th. My friend's mother paid for mine and his ticket, and I was planning on paying her back. She said instead of paying her back, I'll just do yard work for her.
That's because the tickets cost almost $300 each because she forgot to order them when they went on sale, and she ordered them through ticket exchange (online scalping, basically)
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Before I die of envy of not being able to see them, back onto the topic of the thread title, what direction will the new album be in d'you reckon? Back to the more straightforward stuff of Undertow, or further in the 'dreamy' direction 10,000 Days took? I can't really see them pulling off another Undertow style, so I think the latter is more likely. But it's Tool, so whatever they do will be amazing. (I'm actually not being sarcastic there, I'm just a complete fanboy)
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In all honesty, something in the same vein as 10,000 Days or Lateralus is what I'm really hoping for. Both albums are wonderful progressive metal albums, and I'd love to see them go in a similar direction.
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I think Lateralus was probably my favourite mix of the metal side of them, the prog, the dreamy and the lyrics, but it's understandable if they don't top it as it is my favourite album ever. :P But yeah, I'd actually be fine with a 10,000 Days 1.5 really, as long as the lyrics are still up to their standard of excellence.
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They've done an excellent job 5/5 times in terms of lyrics. I'm liking those odds.
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It's Tool we're talking about here... it will be amazing.
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To be honest I don't see why the amount of 'intermission' tracks in 10,000 Days made so many critics rate it lower than their other albums, Aenima has far more and they don't really bother me too much. I actually really like Lost Keys. Also, I found Intension (the spelling still annoys me) to be my least favourite Tool song when I first heard it, but now I lovelovelove it.
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To be honest I don't see why the amount of 'intermission' tracks in 10,000 Days made so many critics rate it lower than their other albums, Aenima has far more and they don't really bother me too much. I actually really like Lost Keys. Also, I found Intension (the spelling still annoys me) to be my least favourite Tool song when I first heard it, but now I lovelovelove it.
I fullly/somewhat agree with everyone thing in this post.
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I just listened to Lateralus and was bored to tears, 10,000 days has far more going for it. And Lost Keys is an amazing buildup to Rosetta Stoned :-\
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SAY WHAT!?
You think Lateralus is boring but 10,000 Days isn't? That's the wrong way round surely.
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I just listened to Lateralus and was bored to tears
(https://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/1/1a/Rageoriginal.jpg)
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I just listened to Lateralus and was bored to tears
(https://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/1/1a/Rageoriginal.jpg)
Lateralus > 10 000 Days any day.
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Lateralus > Most other albums, let alone most other Tool albums.
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Bump! I just ordered the Lateralus Vinyl. I'm actually incredibly excited, it's the first vinyl of an album I like as opposed to my mum.
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I just listened to Lateralus and was bored to tears
*snip*
Lateralus > 10 000 Days any day.
As an album, oh most definitely. I hold the song 10,000 Days ever so slightly higher than Lateralus however.
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Just got back from the Red Rocks show and :D :omg: :hefdaddy
This was really a treat since I haven't seen them in 9 years or so.
A short set, but an awesome one. I especially loved getting to hear most of my favorite stuff from Aenima (Third Eye, Stinkfist, Aenema)... oh, and Flood.
Our seats were about halfway up and almost in the center so we had a good view of the stage (except for that damn tall guy) and a great view of the scenery as well. It was awesome to see all of the lights against the sky/stars... and we saw the most incredible giant orange moon rise up above the city during Right in Two/Schism. Really amazing.
So yeah, wish the set had been a bit longer (MJK said two hours but it was only an hour and 50 minutes :P) but a lot of fun and totally worth the pain in the ass of having to find tickets on eBay, etc.
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Just got back from the Red Rocks show and :D :omg: :hefdaddy
This was really a treat since I haven't seen them in 9 years or so.
A short set, but an awesome one. I especially loved getting to hear most of my favorite stuff from Aenima (Third Eye, Stinkfist, Aenema)... oh, and Flood.
Our seats were about halfway up and almost in the center so we had a good view of the stage (except for that damn tall guy) and a great view of the scenery as well. It was awesome to see all of the lights against the sky/stars... and we saw the most incredible giant orange moon rise up above the city during Right in Two/Schism. Really amazing.
So yeah, wish the set had been a bit longer (MJK said two hours but it was only an hour and 50 minutes :P) but a lot of fun and totally worth the pain in the ass of having to find tickets on eBay, etc.
I'm really tempted to ask you the setlist, but I hate to ruin it for myself. I must ask you just one question: Was 10,000 Days on the setlist?
Either way, I'm so fucking excited to see these guys for the first time in a couple of weeks. It shall be most glorious.
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:sadpanda:
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I'd also like to add, I did a good 5 hours of yard work today to help pay off my ticket. I still have about 13 hours left before it's completely paid off.
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Dayum.
Nope, no 10,000 Days.
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Nope, no 10,000 Days.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E29iOPSxF94
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:lol
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If I saw them I'd want to get Lateralus. Was that there? Also, as a long shot, D>R>T.
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THEY BETTER FUCKING COME TO NEW YORK/NEW JERSEY/CONNECTICUT/ANYWHERE LESS THAN A DAY'S DRIVE FROM HERE
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I just saw these guys last night. The show was outstandingly phenomenal. Makes me wish I could have seen them on ANY of their earlier shows, because I have clearly been missing out over the years of listening to Tool.
I also got one of the 400 venue specific posters being sold at the show (I got in line 2 hours before the doors even opened):
(https://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t204/piklesthedrumr/37678_10150208352190455_512095454_1.jpg)
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I'm so fucking jealous right now...
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I wish our continent was getting some Tool love, let alone our country.
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I'm so fucking jealous right now...
Thisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthistshitshitshitshithsitshthstshtshtishtishsihsithsithstihstihssitshtishththstishtishtsithsithstihstsihtsihtsihstihstsihtishsihtishtithsithithsihtsithis
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The only downfall of buying the poster was trying to keep it safe all night. That wasn't easy. And some prick stepped on it during Tool, and there is a faded foot print which is only visible when looked for it.
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Going this week. First time seeing TOOL since the Ozzfest appearance that had Megadeth, Tool and Ozzy on the main stage. I think that was 1998. Can't wait.
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GAAAAAAH STOP IT
I WANT TO SEE TOOL MORE THAN ANY OTHER BAND ON THIS PLANET BUT THEY AREN'T NEAR ME ON THIS TOUR!!!1!11!! :censored :censored
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Going this week. First time seeing TOOL since the Ozzfest appearance that had Megadeth, Tool and Ozzy on the main stage. I think that was 1998. Can't wait.
That year and 1999 were the two best Ozzfests by far
GAAAAAAH STOP IT
I WANT TO SEE TOOL MORE THAN ANY OTHER BAND ON THIS PLANET BUT THEY AREN'T NEAR ME ON THIS TOUR!!!1!11!! :censored :censored
Same here :sadpanda:
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yea where teh fuck is the nyc show, i hate having to wait for their shit.
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I don't think they're coming here on this tour, because it was just a mini-tour. I'd love to be proven wrong though.
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I don't think they're coming here on this tour, because it was just a mini-tour. I'd love to be proven wrong though.
The annoying thing is I can only really hope to see them when they tour for the next album, so loads of songs from that will mean less old classics which I need to see. HNNNG.
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Good to hear that they're working on a new album. :tup
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I downloaded the second Red Rocks show from DimeADozen.org, can't wait to listen to it, as they didn't come near me this tour.
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(https://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/2942163/Tool+cricket.jpg)
:lol :lol
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(https://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/2942163/Tool+cricket.jpg)
:lol :lol
What the hell!? :lol :lol :lol
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:lol
I downloaded the second Red Rocks show from DimeADozen.org, can't wait to listen to it, as they didn't come near me this tour.
That's the one I went to! What did you think?
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Jackie, I just took a look at the setlist you got, and compared to the setlist we got I'm just slightly jealous you got Intension followed by Right in Two. Don't get me wrong, I love that we got The Patient and Intolerance, but Right in Two has one of the coolest drum sections ever.
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True... but it would've been cool to hear Intolerance!
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Intolerance was great yes. Here, you know what we'll do? We shall go back in time, and force Maynard to change the two sets around a bit.
Actually..scratch that idea. He might just cancel the entire tour altogether if someone were to suggest he did something different.
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Very late on the news, it seems. Great to hear! I await it with
joy in my heart tension in my throbbing core.
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:lol
I downloaded the second Red Rocks show from DimeADozen.org, can't wait to listen to it, as they didn't come near me this tour.
That's the one I went to! What did you think?
I actually went to listen to it the other day and found that my computer deleted it because it thought it was infected :tdwn Gonna download it again in the near future.
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Tool are the one band for me where I'm not really interested in bootlegs. Call me a fanboy (because I certainly am...) but I do think, despite the production in all of the albums except 10,000 Days, I wouldn't change the studio versions in any way. They just feel too much like a studio band to me, in the same way that PT do, and I feel like something would be lost live. Pushit off of Salival is the only time I've even remotely reconsidered this.
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Tool are the one band for me where I'm not really interested in bootlegs. Call me a fanboy (because I certainly am...) but I do think, despite the production in all of the albums except 10,000 Days, I wouldn't change the studio versions in any way. They just feel too much like a studio band to me, in the same way that PT do, and I feel like something would be lost live. Pushit off of Salival is the only time I've even remotely reconsidered this.
So you're saying seeing them live would probably not be as enjoyable to you?
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Tool are the one band for me where I'm not really interested in bootlegs. Call me a fanboy (because I certainly am...) but I do think, despite the production in all of the albums except 10,000 Days, I wouldn't change the studio versions in any way. They just feel too much like a studio band to me, in the same way that PT do, and I feel like something would be lost live. Pushit off of Salival is the only time I've even remotely reconsidered this.
So you're saying seeing them live would probably not be as enjoyable to you?
One word:
Lasers.
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Tool are the one band for me where I'm not really interested in bootlegs. Call me a fanboy (because I certainly am...) but I do think, despite the production in all of the albums except 10,000 Days, I wouldn't change the studio versions in any way. They just feel too much like a studio band to me, in the same way that PT do, and I feel like something would be lost live. Pushit off of Salival is the only time I've even remotely reconsidered this.
So you're saying seeing them live would probably not be as enjoyable to you?
Oh no, seeing them live would probably be one of the best experiences of my life, it's just listening to it afterwards might be disappointing. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure seeing Tool or PT live would be unimaginably awesome, but live recordings, let alone of shows I hadn't been to, don't interest me too much.
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Tool are the one band for me where I'm not really interested in bootlegs. Call me a fanboy (because I certainly am...) but I do think, despite the production in all of the albums except 10,000 Days, I wouldn't change the studio versions in any way. They just feel too much like a studio band to me, in the same way that PT do, and I feel like something would be lost live. Pushit off of Salival is the only time I've even remotely reconsidered this.
So you're saying seeing them live would probably not be as enjoyable to you?
Oh no, seeing them live would probably be one of the best experiences of my life, it's just listening to it afterwards might be disappointing. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure seeing Tool or PT live would be unimaginably awesome, but live recordings, let alone of shows I hadn't been to, don't interest me too much.
Oooooohhh, I see what you're saying now. I'd LOVE to see Tool live. I can't imagine them skipping over the New York/New Jersey/Connecticut area on the next United States tour.
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I'm on the same exact boat as Marvellous G. My friend has some rare bootleg from some Woodstock show they played, and I cant' say I was all that interested without thinking "Man, now I really want to listen to The Patient"
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From the most recent newsletter:
Back stage after the final Nokia show, amid a flurry of activity (and not just gorging on king crab legs washed down with Stellas and Old Peculiar ale), I asked Justin if the band members were going to take a break from each other or get back to writing new material, which is what they were in the process of doing before the opportunity for a summer mini-tour presented itself. "No, we're going to get back to jamming and writing!" was his emphatic reply. When I asked Danny the same question minutes later, he, too, assured me that the plan was to continue the writing process. I didn't get a chance to ask the other two members the same question, but while sitting in the nose-bleed section at a Dodgers-Mets game last Sunday afternoon, I reached into a bag of peanuts, grabbed a handful, and upon cracking open the FIRST ONE, was amazed to see that it contained four perfectly formed peanuts. Immediately it hit me that this was a most auspicious sign - a harbinger of good things to come, as well as a signal from above that the unity experienced by the band members during the tour would carry over once it was finished, Indeed, I was confident that they would get right back to writing new material. And that they probably won't tour again for at least six months gives them a golden opportunity to do just that. Now, to answer the question that is no doubt on everyone's mind at this point, "NO", I didn't eat the peanuts. But the person sitting next to me (who took the photo) did. Even so I don't think that this changes anything. The mere presence of such a wondrous thing speaks for itself. And if that wasn't enough, the Dodgers beat the Mets 1-0, and I enjoyed 2 cups of Stadium Budweiser for only $26.00.
:D :lol
I'd be happy with them spending the next six months on the album, and then doing a proper United States tour, so I can finally see them :)
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A January tour? I guess they'll put out a new album in the late Spring and tour from then through next year. Either way, I'm stoked and hope I'm right.
Also: Is anyone a member of the fanclub? I'm interested in joining but I want to get a general consensus of how good the benefits are.
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Well, I guess it's time to get some more yard work done for my friends mother, to pay for my next Tool concert.