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Title: Best Live Extended Song???
Post by: CrimsonE on April 14, 2010, 04:13:49 PM
Forgive me if this has been asked somewhere else, but I'm a fairly new member to the board, and only a die-hard DT fan since about 2004 or so after listening to a ton of live bootlegs. 

What is amazing to me is when the band goes off on to some extended jams and makes the song sound so much better.  So what would you consider to be the best live version of a DT song?

For my money, it's gotta be Surrounded '07, which extends a five minute song into a 13-15 minute epic, with a killer outro that includes a derivation of Mother.

I also dug what they did with Solitary Shell on the current tour.

BTW, I think that the worst version was the ToT tour version of Beyond this Life, which I found to be quite boring. 

So what do you think about some of these extended songs? 
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Post by: robwebster on April 14, 2010, 05:14:12 PM
Hollow Years '09.

Always loved the demo version. Combined with the breathtaking solo - fantastic.
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Post by: Marvellous G on April 14, 2010, 05:16:52 PM
Hollow Years off Budokan or Surrounded off Chaos In Motion for me.
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Post by: Darkes7 on April 14, 2010, 05:18:09 PM
Hollow Years version from Budokan and which they've been playing live since, without doubt. Absolutely amazing.

Also probably songs from I&W count, as even Take The Time sounds really great live.
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Post by: yeshaberto on April 14, 2010, 05:20:20 PM
unquestionably HY budokan, for me
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 14, 2010, 08:32:36 PM
Learning to Live, from the 8VM tour.
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Post by: GuineaPig on April 14, 2010, 08:35:49 PM
There have been a bunch of great ones.  "Surround '07" and "Another Hand/The Killing Hand" from 2002 jump to my mind.

Easily the worst was Beyond This Life from 2004.
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Post by: Elsydeon on April 14, 2010, 08:39:09 PM
Im gonna go with Through her eyes, LSFNY
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Post by: ZKX-2099 on April 14, 2010, 08:53:31 PM
Beyond This Life was awesome.
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Post by: Perpetual Change on April 14, 2010, 09:41:02 PM
Beyond This Life was awesome.

Yeah.  That one was amazing!

I gotta go with Surrounded 07. One of the few things that was genuinely "special" about those SC shows.
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Post by: RandalGraves on April 14, 2010, 10:45:53 PM
Beyond This Life was awesome.

I've never really stopped to think about it, but to be honest, this is the first one that comes to mind.  I dig the song, totally, but going off into that jam was something else.  While most of these extended versions feel like they're happening in the same atmosphere of the song, the BTL jam leaves this universe for some really great stuff.  I get caught up in it, and forget what song they started playing to begin with (in a good way).  Then when the song comes back in, I want to cheer.  It totally kicks my ass.
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Post by: YtseJamittaja on April 14, 2010, 10:56:45 PM
Beyond This Life was awesome.

this^^    :hefdaddy

and hollow years in Budokan too
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Post by: perfey on April 15, 2010, 12:29:24 AM
Beyond This Life was awesome.

I've never really stopped to think about it, but to be honest, this is the first one that comes to mind.  I dig the song, totally, but going off into that jam was something else.  While most of these extended versions feel like they're happening in the same atmosphere of the song, the BTL jam leaves this universe for some really great stuff.  I get caught up in it, and forget what song they started playing to begin with (in a good way).  Then when the song comes back in, I want to cheer.  It totally kicks my ass.
Totally this, its my favourite extended version, 2nd comes the HY one.
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Post by: juice on April 15, 2010, 01:14:36 AM
The extended version of Beyond this Life from the Los Angeles show during PN 09, it was extended and included Percussive nation 09 and a tripple guitar jam with JP, Dweezil Zappa, and Steve Vai.  I was there  :biggrin:
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Post by: cthrubuoy on April 15, 2010, 01:36:11 AM
Beyond This Life was awesome.

I've never really stopped to think about it, but to be honest, this is the first one that comes to mind.  I dig the song, totally, but going off into that jam was something else.  While most of these extended versions feel like they're happening in the same atmosphere of the song, the BTL jam leaves this universe for some really great stuff.  I get caught up in it, and forget what song they started playing to begin with (in a good way).  Then when the song comes back in, I want to cheer.  It totally kicks my ass.
Totally this, its my favourite extended version, 2nd comes the HY one.

It's my favourite too.
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Post by: KISS 76 on April 15, 2010, 02:36:18 AM
Hands down... To live forever from the Live in Tokyo dvd for me.
Especially for the Petrucci improv that includes The Beatles Within You Without You. They should play some obscure stuff on the club dates during the Maiden tour this year & release them all through YtseJam...
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Post by: Mladen on April 15, 2010, 06:35:08 AM
My favorite is Beyond this life from Live at Budokan, it's just breathtaking. And I love the dueling between Jordan and Petrucci in Metropolis, so powerful.  :tup Surrounded 07 was fine, but a bit too long.
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Post by: Dark Master Of Sin on April 15, 2010, 06:43:07 AM
This isn't even close to a fair question...

Beyond This Life (L@B)
Ytse Jam (Once in a Livetime)
Hollow Years (L@B)
In the Name of God (L@B)
I LOVE the changes to A Change of Seasons on LSFNY...

That's just off the top of my head, whilst closing accounts.
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Post by: ZKX-2099 on April 15, 2010, 06:46:40 AM
The ending solo of Finally Free on Live Scenes was quite the pleasant surprise.
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Post by: EstyMaJ on April 15, 2010, 07:21:36 AM
Hands down... To live forever from the Live in Tokyo dvd for me.
Especially for the Petrucci improv that includes The Beatles Within You Without You. They should play some obscure stuff on the club dates during the Maiden tour this year & release them all through YtseJam...

This was my vote big time I love the whole dam sone and JP goes in a trance in this one i think but , how come i never noticed the beatles improve in this? is the dvd version differant than the original VHS version ?
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Post by: Chino on April 15, 2010, 07:54:27 AM
Hollow Years - LAB
Learning to Live - LSFNY
Take the Time/ Freebird
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Post by: BRGM on April 15, 2010, 08:47:28 AM
Beyond this life is special, but it gets boring when u listen to it too often so I think, surrounded '07, solitary shell att his tour and Hollow years at this tour
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Post by: Nick on April 15, 2010, 08:55:00 AM
Budokan Hollow Years followed by Surrounded '07.
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Post by: skydivingninja on April 15, 2010, 09:21:02 AM
Hollow Years extended...one of the best concert moments ever.
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Post by: Elsydeon on April 15, 2010, 09:24:33 AM
Beyond this life is special, but it gets boring when u listen to it too often so I think, surrounded '07, solitary shell att his tour and Hollow years at this tour
especially special?
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 15, 2010, 10:01:40 AM
Hands down... To live forever from the Live in Tokyo dvd for me.
Especially for the Petrucci improv that includes The Beatles Within You Without You. They should play some obscure stuff on the club dates during the Maiden tour this year & release them all through YtseJam...

This was my vote big time I love the whole dam sone and JP goes in a trance in this one i think but , how come i never noticed the beatles improve in this? is the dvd version differant than the original VHS version ?
No, it's not.
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Post by: tri.ad on April 15, 2010, 10:13:10 AM
Not Hollow Years, neither '04 nor '09.

Learning To Live from the 8VM tour for me as well.
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Post by: EstyMaJ on April 15, 2010, 10:16:16 AM
Hands down... To live forever from the Live in Tokyo dvd for me.
Especially for the Petrucci improv that includes The Beatles Within You Without You. They should play some obscure stuff on the club dates during the Maiden tour this year & release them all through YtseJam...

This was my vote big time I love the whole dam sone and JP goes in a trance in this one i think but , how come i never noticed the beatles improve in this? is the dvd version differant than the original VHS version ?
No, it's not.

Oh now i know what beatle part when JP is plaing the octave chords with alot of reverb , Ill have to confirm and listen to Within you without you again as i think i may have heard it once
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Post by: antigoon on April 15, 2010, 11:56:05 AM
To Live Forever from Live in Tokyo. Holy shit awesome.

Runner up: Learning to Live from the 8VM tour.
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Post by: El JoNNo on April 15, 2010, 12:23:06 PM
Learning to Live, from the 8VM tour.
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Post by: BRGM on April 15, 2010, 12:31:11 PM
Beyond this life is special, but it gets boring when u listen to it too often so I think, surrounded '07, solitary shell att his tour and Hollow years at this tour
especially special?

I mean, it's not like the other live extended song, it's more crazy with that keyboard and drum part and all that guitar improvising
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Post by: Fiery Winds on April 15, 2010, 01:19:50 PM
I love the extended section in Another Hand/The Killing Hand.  The version on Bucharest is outstanding.
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Post by: blackngold29 on April 15, 2010, 03:45:59 PM
Learning to Live with Freebird

And yes, Surrounded '07 is quite amazing.
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Post by: Darkes7 on April 15, 2010, 05:12:27 PM
Btw, sorry to be the complaining guy, but I wasn't too happy with the extended version of Solitary Shell on PN. The only point of the set when I lost interest a bit (after going crazy during ANTR/The Mirror/Lie and then slowly melting during Hollow Years). It seemed to drag too long for me...
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Post by: austin on April 15, 2010, 05:13:31 PM
Does instrumedly count? :neverusethis:
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Post by: skydivingninja on April 15, 2010, 05:38:23 PM
Learning to Live, from the 8VM tour.

Haven't heard of them doing anything special with LtL from the 8VM tour...what did they do?
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Post by: antigoon on April 15, 2010, 11:12:52 PM
Learning to Live, from the 8VM tour.

Haven't heard of them doing anything special with LtL from the 8VM tour...what did they do?

There was just a really cool jam that replaced the acoustic guitar bit before the whoa's. JR had some very tasty continuum playing, and JP did a nice clean-tone solo.

I think. Haven't listened to the boot I have in a LONG time
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Post by: contest_sanity on April 15, 2010, 11:18:44 PM
Hollow Years - LAB
Learning to Live - LSFNY
Take the Time / Freebird
ABSOLUTELY THIS :metal

So unexpected; so awesome!!!  Would love to have seen it live.
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Post by: RaiseTheKnife on April 15, 2010, 11:32:30 PM
1) To Live Forever '93 in Tokyo

2) Lines in the Sand - Fix for 96 version with extended midsection and outro verse

3) Take the Time with Mists of Evening
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 16, 2010, 10:23:15 AM
Learning to Live, from the 8VM tour.

Haven't heard of them doing anything special with LtL from the 8VM tour...what did they do?

There was just a really cool jam that replaced the acoustic guitar bit before the whoa's. JR had some very tasty continuum playing, and JP did a nice clean-tone solo.

I think. Haven't listened to the boot I have in a LONG time
It morphed and built, with JP and JR trading solos, until finally, right before JLB came back in with the "Whoooo"s, JR was soloing while the rest of the band played teasers from the main riffage from Cream's Crossroads and then Rush's La Villa Strangiato.  Epic.
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Post by: antigoon on April 16, 2010, 11:32:16 AM
I listened to it again last night. JR's continuum solo was really good, probably because it wasn't an overdriven noise-fest.
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Post by: bobs23 on April 16, 2010, 12:01:17 PM
To be a bit more specific
BTL New York TOT MSG version, that jam was not like any other (way beeter than the L@B version)
LTL San Francisco 8V tour. That jam was so spacey and cool
To Live Forever Wallingford TOT just crazy
BTL LA PN09  Percussive Nation, Dweezel Zappa, Steve Via, JP, JR jam...eargasmic
Solitary Shell Vegas PN09 pretty special
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Post by: Orbert on April 16, 2010, 12:05:15 PM
"To Live Forever" from Live in Tokyo.

I do like the extended "Hollow Years" but it's always bugged me that it sounds so glorious and triumphant, when it's actually a sad song.  It just doesn't fit.
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Post by: Plasmastrike on April 16, 2010, 12:10:55 PM
Learning to Live, from the 8VM tour.

Haven't heard of them doing anything special with LtL from the 8VM tour...what did they do?

There was just a really cool jam that replaced the acoustic guitar bit before the whoa's. JR had some very tasty continuum playing, and JP did a nice clean-tone solo.

I think. Haven't listened to the boot I have in a LONG time

Sounds really epic.. I can't believe I haven't heard this yet being as LtL is my favorite by the band. Must seek it out!!
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 16, 2010, 02:52:17 PM
BTL New York TOT MSG version, that jam was not like any other (way beeter than the L@B version)
I agree, that was a great one, much better than Budokan.
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Post by: setrataeso on April 16, 2010, 03:06:25 PM
Hollow Years from Budokan
Surrounded and Lines in the Sand from Chaos in Motion
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Post by: The Letter M on April 16, 2010, 03:52:22 PM
I enjoy many of the selections mentioned here, but I don't recall anyone mentioning "The Spirit Carries On" from LSFNY! The impromptu coda-ending is just BONE-CHILLINGLY-AWESOME for me, and it's one of those goosebumps-moments that I'll always have when listening to it.

I also do enjoy "Hollow Years" from LAB and "Surrounded" from CIM. Also, "Metropolis" from WDADRU is very very good.

-Marc.
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Post by: changing_seasons on April 17, 2010, 09:05:41 AM
Through Her Eyes from LSFNY is awesome. The guitar solo is quite amazing.
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Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 17, 2010, 05:53:00 PM
I enjoy many of the selections mentioned here, but I don't recall anyone mentioning "The Spirit Carries On" from LSFNY! The impromptu coda-ending is just BONE-CHILLINGLY-AWESOME for me, and it's one of those goosebumps-moments that I'll always have when listening to it.

Forgot about this. The added gospel and Theresa really made this song more majestic, and uplifting. The only problem I have is that JM didn't do his cool bassline at the end of the song like the studio version.
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Post by: KISS 76 on April 17, 2010, 05:55:22 PM
Just a thought... How great is it that the band even bother to do this each tour instead of playing the same stale set list like 99.9% of other bands do... Keeps it fun & interesting for the fans & themselves. Just one of the reasons this band is so awesome!
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Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 17, 2010, 08:34:18 PM
^Amen.

Who wants to see a band who always play there hits. One reason I kinda don't like festivals with popular bands cause that's all they play everytime they come here
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 18, 2010, 05:32:30 AM
Who wants to see a band who always play there hits.
Probably fans of bands with more than one hit.
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Post by: moffatt on April 18, 2010, 06:04:37 AM
Who wants to see a band who always play there hits.
Probably fans of bands with more than one hit.
:lol :lol
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Post by: Rafael Guerra on April 18, 2010, 11:17:47 AM
Surrounded Chaos In Motion is unbelievable, the solo is just WOW.
I like BTL in Live At Budokan, I think the Jordan/Mike part is a little exageratted by I cant imagine the song without it.
I saw Hollow Years live this year and Jordanīs piano breaks and the alternative verses made it very magical as well.
Those are my top 3 extended.
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Post by: cramx3 on April 19, 2010, 01:51:38 PM
Hard to say just one, but my favorites:

Metropolis - When Dream and Day Reunite
Lines in the Sand - Live at Bucharest
Surrounded - Chaos in Motion
Hollow Years - Live at Budokan
Peruvian Skies - Santiago, Chile

funny how a lot are from Falling Into Infinity
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Post by: DeanTheater on April 19, 2010, 04:30:08 PM
Hollow Years extended...one of the best concert moments ever.

THIS,

but,

special shoutout to the cover of Maidens "Gangland" from #OTB Live.  Beautiful breakdown in middle of that amazing jazzy version.
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Post by: cramx3 on April 19, 2010, 07:12:21 PM
Good call on Gangland, they do a really cool version of it.