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Title: Raw Dog
Post by: splent on April 12, 2010, 12:21:29 PM
I finally got around to downloading and listening to Raw Dog... it is just supposed to cut out, a la Pull Me Under, or did I get a bad download (which means I got screwed on iTunes)?  Please don't hate me for being a mod and having just listened to this, but I'm a very busy guy right now and have RL getting in the way of my listening pleasure
Title: Re: Raw Dog
Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 12, 2010, 12:26:13 PM
Apparently, the song is supposed to cut off like that.  Which detracts from my enjoyment of it.
Title: Re: Raw Dog
Post by: ScioPath on April 12, 2010, 03:27:29 PM
Yes it was supposed to fade out, but for whatever reason it cuts out the last seven or so seconds
Title: Re: Raw Dog
Post by: AcidLameLTE on April 12, 2010, 03:30:06 PM
Yeah it is because they had to cut some samples from the end or something.
Title: Re: Raw Dog
Post by: Silver Tears on April 12, 2010, 03:36:30 PM
I still haven't heard this song...
Title: Re: Raw Dog
Post by: ZBomber on April 12, 2010, 03:45:19 PM
How come I remember a version with a fade out? Maybe it was from before the EP was released?

Just listened to mine, and it also has the end cut out.
Title: Re: Raw Dog
Post by: AcidLameLTE on April 12, 2010, 03:45:46 PM
How come I remember a version with a fade out? Maybe it was from before the EP was released?
A guy on YouTube did that himself.
Title: Re: Raw Dog
Post by: Zook on April 12, 2010, 03:47:33 PM
How come I remember a version with a fade out? Maybe it was from before the EP was released?
A guy on YouTube did that himself.

Very poorly too. I made a fade out and it sounds professional. Yeah, I'm awesome.
Title: Re: Raw Dog
Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 12, 2010, 04:40:07 PM
I still haven't heard this song...
That's OK. 
Title: Re: Raw Dog
Post by: ZBomber on April 12, 2010, 04:46:15 PM
I still haven't heard this song...
That's OK. 

Its an ok song. I don't think I would ever purposely play it, but if it came on shuffle I'd probably let it play.
Title: Re: Raw Dog
Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 12, 2010, 05:03:15 PM
I still haven't heard this song...
That's OK. 

Its an ok song. I don't think I would ever purposely play it, but if it came on shuffle I'd probably let it play.
Me too.  It's not bad enough to skip, but it's not good enough to play on purpose.
Title: Re: Raw Dog
Post by: contest_sanity on April 12, 2010, 07:53:26 PM
I put it on a prog metal compilation cd precisely because I hadn't listened to it much and wanted a few more spins.  I'm glad it's on there now, as it's a cool song, but it's certainly not ground-breaking or anything (not that it need be).  I agree that if I was itching to put on some DT, it would be far from the first thing I reached for. 
Title: Re: Raw Dog
Post by: ReaPsTA on April 12, 2010, 07:54:14 PM
I still haven't heard this song...
That's OK. 

It's not okay. Raw Dog should be played to children in their incubators.
Title: Re: Raw Dog
Post by: contest_sanity on April 12, 2010, 08:00:44 PM
I still haven't heard this song...
That's OK. 

It's not okay. Raw Dog should be played to children in their incubators.
Most pediatricians agree that the sudden ending would stunt infant growth.  That's why it is not so used.
Title: Re: Raw Dog
Post by: OsMosis2259 on April 12, 2010, 08:41:43 PM
How come I remember a version with a fade out? Maybe it was from before the EP was released?
A guy on YouTube did that himself.

i wonder who did that... :)

ha I didn't do that but the version that played on AOL before the song released had the fade out.  I was the one who uploaded it on youtube afterwards.
Title: Re: Raw Dog
Post by: cthrubuoy on April 13, 2010, 12:53:45 AM
Don't know if you should be saying that...
Title: Re: Raw Dog
Post by: ReaPsTA on April 13, 2010, 01:19:28 AM
Most pediatricians agree that the sudden ending would stunt infant growth.  That's why it is not so used.

They're wrong. The sudden ending teachers children that life is finite and they have to live it to the fullest.
Title: Re: Raw Dog
Post by: contest_sanity on April 13, 2010, 02:41:09 PM
Most pediatricians agree that the sudden ending would stunt infant growth.  That's why it is not so used.

They're wrong. The sudden ending teachers children that life is finite and they have to live it to the fullest.
Like that famous quote: "it's better to randomly cut off than to fade-out or use copyrighted material for voice-overs." 
Title: Re: Raw Dog
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 13, 2010, 02:56:53 PM
The more i listen to this song, the more i want to hear it live
Title: Re: Raw Dog
Post by: setrataeso on April 13, 2010, 04:23:16 PM
The more i listen to this song, the more i want to hear it live

Egh...
I dig the song, but its still near the bottom of my DT rankings.
In terms of them playing it live, I could see it happening, but certainly not any tour soon. Frankly, I'd rather hear other demos live then Raw Dog.
Title: Re: Raw Dog
Post by: Progmetty on April 14, 2010, 07:08:24 AM
This is the same question I kept asking over and over when the song was first released in it's thread back then!!! nobody ever answered me!! now I know I have to start a separate thread if I want answers heh, j/k
Title: Re: Raw Dog
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on April 15, 2010, 11:37:24 PM
I just assumed that DT purposely cut the song as an homage, like they did with Pull Me Under.

I would be interested to know what clips they had intended to include with the song but had to jetison, presumably because of rights issues.
Title: Re: Raw Dog
Post by: contest_sanity on April 15, 2010, 11:42:24 PM
I would be interested to know what clips they had intended to include with the song but had to jetison, presumably because of rights issues.
The impetus for a 3rd edition of Lifting Shadows.
Title: Re: Raw Dog
Post by: Progmetty on April 15, 2010, 11:48:48 PM
Naah it's not on purpose, it's something the game soundtrack people did, cause a complete version that doesn't end like that exists as I remember ZepplinDT posting a few month back that someone on ebay was selling a promo copy of Raw Dog that only had the song on it and that the seller says it's the complete version.
Title: Re: Raw Dog
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 16, 2010, 08:06:53 PM
I'm interested to how complete the song would sound with that end, it was probably just the same but with a climatic ending note
Title: Re: Raw Dog
Post by: black_biff_stadler on April 18, 2010, 11:29:36 AM
I'm interested to how complete the song would sound with that end, it was probably just the same but with a climatic ending note

JLB farts out a tritonic 5th harmony unaccompanied.
Title: Re: Raw Dog
Post by: yorost on April 18, 2010, 05:32:05 PM
Sounds great for a violent, button-mashing game, not so much for a single. :p
Title: Re: Raw Dog
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 18, 2010, 05:57:21 PM
Funny how you want Dt to play songs that have a maiden vibe. This song has a maiden section in it. which would be :metal live
Title: Re: Raw Dog
Post by: Space Invader on April 18, 2010, 06:23:55 PM
It's good. Not great, but average.
Something I would listen to at the gym for sure though.
 :metal
Title: Re: Raw Dog
Post by: blackngold29 on April 18, 2010, 07:29:02 PM
Funny how you want Dt to play songs that have a maiden vibe. This song has a maiden section in it. which would be :metal live
I don't get the impression it'll be played live all that often.
Title: Re: Raw Dog
Post by: TL on April 18, 2010, 10:26:55 PM
Raw Dog seems like the kind of song that, if played live, would either lead directly into something else, or have an extended instrumental jam at the end.
Title: Re: Raw Dog
Post by: Global Laziness on April 19, 2010, 08:28:14 PM
Raw Dog seems like the kind of song that, if played live, would either lead directly into something else, or have an extended instrumental jam at the end.

...at the end of an instrumental jam?
Title: Re: Raw Dog
Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 20, 2010, 09:50:57 AM
Raw Dog seems like the kind of song that, if played live, would either lead directly into something else, or have an extended instrumental jam at the end.

...at the end of an instrumental jam?
:neverusethis:
Title: Re: Raw Dog
Post by: rumborak on April 20, 2010, 11:44:24 AM
For me, Raw Dog went as quickly as it came. Haven't been listening to it in quite a while now.

rumborak
Title: Re: Raw Dog
Post by: Zydar on April 20, 2010, 11:45:55 AM
For me, Raw Dog went as quickly as it came. Haven't been listening to it in quite a while now.

rumborak


Exactly. I listened to it a few times when it was released, but I haven't listened to it for a long time. Don't feel the urge to either.
Title: Re: Raw Dog
Post by: pogoowner on April 20, 2010, 12:10:13 PM
I listened to it twice. I'll probably never listen to it again.
Title: Re: Raw Dog
Post by: ReaPsTA on April 21, 2010, 01:21:02 PM
Exactly. I listened to it a few times when it was released, but I haven't listened to it for a long time. Don't feel the urge to either.

I do still feel the urge. And if it isn't satisfied, suicide might become imminent.
Title: Re: Raw Dog
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on April 22, 2010, 08:51:15 AM
Exactly. I listened to it a few times when it was released, but I haven't listened to it for a long time. Don't feel the urge to either.

I do still feel the urge. And if it isn't satisfied, suicide might become imminent.

He's watching.

And you'll all be punished.
Title: Re: Raw Dog
Post by: ack44 on April 30, 2010, 09:48:58 AM
iTunes is crappy. I remember when I got Magma's K.A. The last 15 minutes of the last song was missing.
Title: Re: Raw Dog
Post by: Adami on April 30, 2010, 09:59:47 PM
iTunes is crappy. I remember when I got Magma's K.A. The last 15 minutes of the last song was missing.

How the hell do they lose 15 minutes? Sure...I can somewhat excuse a few seconds due to some technical error. But 15 minutes?

You sure you didn't mean 15 seconds? Or 15 keyboard solos or something?
Title: Re: Raw Dog
Post by: TimmyHiggy on May 02, 2010, 05:21:02 PM
Or 15 keyboard solos or something?
They chopped that bit off my pull me under :neverusethis:
Title: Re: Raw Dog
Post by: Adami on May 02, 2010, 05:22:59 PM
Or 15 keyboard solos or something?
They chopped that bit off my pull me under :neverusethis:

Fortunatly for us Jordan makes sure they add it in live.
Title: Re: Raw Dog
Post by: ack44 on May 03, 2010, 12:00:24 PM
iTunes is crappy. I remember when I got Magma's K.A. The last 15 minutes of the last song was missing.

How the hell do they lose 15 minutes? Sure...I can somewhat excuse a few seconds due to some technical error. But 15 minutes?

You sure you didn't mean 15 seconds? Or 15 keyboard solos or something?

 Lol yes, 15 minutes. That's how much they suck. If I had been cautious enough to read the reviews before I bought it though, I would have known.