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Title: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. LIVE AT THE ROYAL ALBERT HALL
Post by: Accelerando on February 23, 2010, 08:38:01 PM
In this thread, we will talk about the best rock band out there today, with the best vocalist in any genre (one of the very best of all time imo) and a machine of a guitarist and songwriter , Mark Tremonti  :metal

I'll also share exclusive updates that members from the Alter Bridge forums get before anyone else. This band has a strong connection with their fans, and are so pumped to share what's going on with the band.

Right  now Alter Bridge is in the studio recording Alter Bridge III. They have written several songs over the past year, and have arranged about 15 songs. It is still unclear if all 15 will make the final cut.

The band just made this update today!

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Hello Alter Bridge Nation,

The recording process is moving forward and we could not be more excited about the songs that we are creating. Flip has finished all of his drum tracking and Brian will be finished recording all of his bass tracks by the end of this evening. Then, starting this weekend, Mark and Myles will begin recording guitars.

Our fearless manager, Steve Wood, snapped a few photos while down here in Miami and we thought that we would share them with you. First up, a view from the air of where we are recording.

(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l114/mtremonti571/ArialViewStudio.jpg)

(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l114/mtremonti571/FlipPrepares.jpg)

(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l114/mtremonti571/MarkTransfixed.jpg)

(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l114/mtremonti571/BrianSlappinDaBass.jpg)

(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l114/mtremonti571/MarkRocking.jpg)

(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l114/mtremonti571/MylesSurprised.jpg)


That is all we have got for now. Very few people have heard the songs we are working on (not even our record label) and we are very proud of what we are creating. The word used most to describe what we are creating is dark. We can not wait to unleash our songs on the world later this year. And… we have received word that our tour in October will begin in the UK. We will update you further as more news comes in and also keep you up to date on the recording process so check back soon.

Keep rocking,

Alter Bridge

Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Basekick on February 23, 2010, 08:43:05 PM
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The word used most to describe what we are creating is dark



 :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg:

The best news I've heard all day.  Seriously, I LOVE Alter Bridge, and easily prefer all of their dark and heavy songs more than any others. YES YES YES YES YES.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Elsydeon on February 23, 2010, 08:47:48 PM
very awesome! I'm really glad they're back to recording and producing awesome music. Looking forward to it!  :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: 73109 on February 23, 2010, 09:02:13 PM
I love Creed. I never listened to Alter Bridge. What is the one album I should start with?
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Elsydeon on February 23, 2010, 09:04:45 PM
they have 2 albums, both are fantastic. Blackbird is my favorite
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: sneakyblueberry on February 23, 2010, 09:09:55 PM
This is very exciting news. Listening to One Day Remains the other day, the start of Find the Real blew my face off. These guys are rad incarnate.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Adami on February 23, 2010, 09:16:19 PM
Please god pick a different rhythm for your chorus's people. I love you and your band, but come on.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: yeshaberto on February 23, 2010, 10:00:56 PM
sweet
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: j on February 23, 2010, 10:10:41 PM
sweet

This.

@ 90210: both their albums are great, you should listen to them both.  Much better than Creed, and really nothing like them at all.

-J
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Dcrupi on February 24, 2010, 03:51:59 PM
sweet

This.

@ 90210: both their albums are great, you should listen to them both.  Much better than Creed, and really nothing like them at all.

-J

Eh...I don't know about that.  You can really hear the Creed coming through in some of their work, especially on One Day Remains.  Blackbird not so much, but certainly on the first one you can hear slight influences...they're not diametrically opposed to one another.

That said, Alter Bridge is infinitely better, IMO.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Jamesman42 on February 24, 2010, 04:10:02 PM
Thanks for the update, Accelerando. This is a band I really need to listen to more, I really love their stuff.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Fuzzboy on February 24, 2010, 04:34:20 PM
I used to fish on that pier all the time  :P
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on February 24, 2010, 05:22:46 PM
Alter Bridge -  :hefdaddy

One of my absolute favorites. Can't wait for AB III (although I hope they give it a real title).
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on February 24, 2010, 06:54:41 PM
Someone took down a picture of the song titles they had on a white board. But I do have a list of song titles that I could make out

1. Drop B (Idle)
2. Slip To The Void
3. Make It Right
4. Home
5. Zero
6. Isolation
7. Doesn't Matter
8. Rifforific
9. Fallout
10. To Know One
11. Breathe Again
12. Know It Hurts
13. Coperdalane (I think...)
14. Show Me A Sign
15. Empty Handed
16. Someday
17. Do You Feel?
18. Insecption
19. Reconcile
20. For What May Never Come
21. Defenseless
22. Nashville
23. And I Do
24. Dillenger's Journey To Fame (this song had an X over it so it prob won't on the album)
25. Like A Ghost
26. BLK #2 (possibly Blackbird Pt2???)
27. Life Must Go On
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Basekick on February 24, 2010, 06:55:10 PM
sweet

This.

@ 90210: both their albums are great, you should listen to them both.  Much better than Creed, and really nothing like them at all.

-J

Eh...I don't know about that.  You can really hear the Creed coming through in some of their work, especially on One Day Remains.  Blackbird not so much, but certainly on the first one you can hear slight influences...they're not diametrically opposed to one another.

That said, Alter Bridge is infinitely better, IMO.

I agree with you here, and there is a simple explination.  Tremonti had a lot of material still left over from Creed, and Myles was utilized much more as a vocalist rather than guitar/songwriter during the recording process of the first album.  However, Myles and Tremonti worked together on Blackbird, which helped them create their own sound and stray away from Creed.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: LCArenas on February 24, 2010, 07:16:30 PM
As I've said before, Alter Bridge is IMO the best Hard Rock band ever to hit this planet and my favorite Hard Rock band. They're the first band I know that has succesfully managed to bring Metal influences & Elements into Hard Rock when it's supposed to be vice-versa. I'm anxiously waiting for their next work and I like a lot that it's dark. Waiting for more news!

BTW, Slip To The Void=Awesome song name.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on February 24, 2010, 09:10:08 PM
I agree with everything you just said. I was just listening to Ties That Bind before I read this, and was thinking how gruesome the riffs are in this song. Mark Tremonti is the man   God
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: ZKX-2099 on February 24, 2010, 10:02:39 PM
Alter Bridge = THE only good straight forward rock band these days.

Can't wait for the new CD hoping for more songs like Blackbird.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: j on February 24, 2010, 10:32:18 PM
sweet

This.

@ 90210: both their albums are great, you should listen to them both.  Much better than Creed, and really nothing like them at all.

-J

Eh...I don't know about that.  You can really hear the Creed coming through in some of their work, especially on One Day Remains.  Blackbird not so much, but certainly on the first one you can hear slight influences...they're not diametrically opposed to one another.

That said, Alter Bridge is infinitely better, IMO.

I agree with you here, and there is a simple explination.  Tremonti had a lot of material still left over from Creed, and Myles was utilized much more as a vocalist rather than guitar/songwriter during the recording process of the first album.  However, Myles and Tremonti worked together on Blackbird, which helped them create their own sound and stray away from Creed.

Maybe the reason I don't hear Creed in there is because I don't want to hear it. :P

-J
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on February 25, 2010, 11:30:03 AM
Thanks for all those song titles. Man, I can't wait for this record.  :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Basekick on February 25, 2010, 01:43:24 PM
Thanks for all those song titles. Man, I can't wait for this record.  :metal :metal

Speaking of which, where did they come from exactly?  Acc, mind sharing the image with us?
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: lordxizor on February 25, 2010, 02:04:32 PM
I  :heart Alter Bridge. I have a man-crush on Miles.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on February 25, 2010, 02:15:52 PM
I  :heart Alter Bridge. I have a man-crush on Miles.

Who's "Miles?" Last I checked, it was MYLES.   :biggrin:

You just failed in your crush.   :loser:

I'm just bustin' your chops. Anyway, yeah, Myles is all sorts of win when it comes to singing and guitar playing. His style of writing a solo is so PERFECT. He really focuses on extending the vibe of the song, rather than it just being a chance to show off. So many guitarists forget that. His writing style reminds me a lot of Chris DeGarmo (who is sadly missed in the hard rock/metal world).
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on February 25, 2010, 04:54:47 PM
Thanks for all those song titles. Man, I can't wait for this record.  :metal :metal

Speaking of which, where did they come from exactly?  Acc, mind sharing the image with us?

Haha well Mark Tremonti's brother accidentally posted an image of a white board with an extensive list of songs for the new album on the Alter Bridge forum, and that's where we got em. It was taken down a couple hours later. I should've dragged that image to my iPhoto. I'm sure someone around that board has it.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on February 27, 2010, 02:13:21 PM
Flip's mom posted this:

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"The last time I talked to Scott he was saying he was so excited about the way the drum tracks had come out. "Fantastic" was the word he used. He also explained to me that with guitars you could adjust the sounds/tones/whatever after they were recorded, but drums were pretty much set so it was really important that they were recorded in such a big room. Not sure I actually understand all that but I'll take his word for it! He's really enthused about the progress of the CD.

They'll be back in Orlando as of this weekend. I think Mark and/or Myles start recording guitar tracks in the Orlando studio on Saturday.

The producer Elvis Baskett, who also produced "Blackbird" said they will be moving to another location to record the vocals. Interesting plan of action. I assume the drums sound better acoustically in a bigger room?
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: sneakyblueberry on February 27, 2010, 04:13:42 PM
Flip's mom posted this:

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"The last time I talked to Scott he was saying he was so excited about the way the drum tracks had come out. "Fantastic" was the word he used. He also explained to me that with guitars you could adjust the sounds/tones/whatever after they were recorded, but drums were pretty much set so it was really important that they were recorded in such a big room. Not sure I actually understand all that but I'll take his word for it! He's really enthused about the progress of the CD.

They'll be back in Orlando as of this weekend. I think Mark and/or Myles start recording guitar tracks in the Orlando studio on Saturday.

The producer Elvis Baskett, who also produced "Blackbird" said they will be moving to another location to record the vocals. Interesting plan of action. I assume the drums sound better acoustically in a bigger room?

Bigger usually means more roomy sounding drums.  So a big room with some huge acoustics will give the drums a nice-as room sound, and means that EQ on individual drums is used a bit more sparingly to bring out the nautrual sound of the drums.  But after hearing the last two albums I'd have to say they have nothing to worry about when it comes to drum tone.  Total gut-busters.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: PixelDream on February 27, 2010, 05:19:08 PM
Yeah, the drums sound incredible on both albums. I think I prefer 'Blackbird's drumsound a bit more. Let's hope this will be even better!

Update: After holding off a bit from listening to Alter Bridge for a few months, I'm now listening to 'The Ties that Bind'. Holy crap, it feels great to be back. There's something very powerful and uplifting about this stuff, even if the music and lyrics are pretty dark. It's just the obvious love of playing together + great songwriting I guess. These guys just RULE in making awesome Rock music.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on March 04, 2010, 09:49:53 PM
New Update!

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Hello Alter Bridge Nation,

We are proud to announce that drum and bass tracking on our third album is now complete. The next phase is the recording of the guitars, which Mark and Myles began on Monday. The songs are shaping up really well and we are looking forward to unleashing them on the world later this year. We do not want to talk too much about the songs now, as they are still in the formative process. But know this… the four of us are creating these songs exactly the way we want with absolute freedom. And only the best of the best of the 17 songs we record will make the album.

We also want to let you know that Slash recently did an interview where he talks about Myles and the upcoming summer tour they will be doing together. The big news is that Slash revealed that they will be playing a few of our songs on tour, along with a song or two from Myles’ upcoming solo project along with some old GNR tunes so you will not want to miss it. Here is a link to the complete interview…

http://www.livedaily.com/news/slash-tickets-and-tour-dates-livedaily-interview-slash-21536.html

Well, that is all for now. Four songs are tracked on guitar so far and today we begin work on song #5. We will leave you with a few photos and be sure to check back for more updates as time allows.

Keep Rocking,

Alter Bridge
---------------------- (with photos)

Brian does some tracking...

(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l114/mtremonti571/BrianTracking.jpg)

Mark brings the guitar...

(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l114/mtremonti571/MarkTracking.jpg)

Myles contemplates an idea...

(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l114/mtremonti571/MylesContemplates.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Basekick on March 05, 2010, 06:22:32 AM
Flip's mom posted this:

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"The last time I talked to Scott he was saying he was so excited about the way the drum tracks had come out. "Fantastic" was the word he used. He also explained to me that with guitars you could adjust the sounds/tones/whatever after they were recorded, but drums were pretty much set so it was really important that they were recorded in such a big room. Not sure I actually understand all that but I'll take his word for it! He's really enthused about the progress of the CD.

They'll be back in Orlando as of this weekend. I think Mark and/or Myles start recording guitar tracks in the Orlando studio on Saturday.

The producer Elvis Baskett, who also produced "Blackbird" said they will be moving to another location to record the vocals. Interesting plan of action. I assume the drums sound better acoustically in a bigger room?

Bigger usually means more roomy sounding drums.  So a big room with some huge acoustics will give the drums a nice-as room sound, and means that EQ on individual drums is used a bit more sparingly to bring out the nautrual sound of the drums.  But after hearing the last two albums I'd have to say they have nothing to worry about when it comes to drum tone.  Total gut-busters.

My first reaction was "Oh like, When the Levee Breaks?"  since the drums were placed in a stairwell when recorded to sound absolutely HUGE.  Sounds great to me :tup
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: sylvan on March 05, 2010, 07:50:17 AM
I just can't wait for this album.  For the life of me, I can't understand why they aren't the biggest new rock act in America.  Not only are they not in their rightful place, but they could get by simply on the love they are shown in Europe.  Just like the American music culture to cast aside raw talent and sheer awesomeness in favor of autotuned bullshit.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on March 05, 2010, 02:23:21 PM
I just can't wait for this album.  For the life of me, I can't understand why they aren't the biggest new rock act in America.  Not only are they not in their rightful place, but they could get by simply on the love they are shown in Europe.  Just like the American music culture to cast aside raw talent and sheer awesomeness in favor of autotuned bullshit.

This. But i have to blame the record label at this point. They left Wind-Up because of the overwhelming pressure that they brought of getting Creed back together to do a tour when they were recording "Blackbird", so they went to Universal Records who aren't doing shit with the promotions, and have delayed the release of the Deluxe and Blu-ay versions of the DVD.

If they went to Roadrunner, Alter Bridge could very well be huge.


I have to say, Tremonti just looks absolutely RIPPED in that last picture of him.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on March 05, 2010, 02:36:19 PM
How long is their deal with Universal?

Alter Bridge should be gigantic. As should Sevendust. As should have King's X back in the day. As should have RA. Sadly, too many absolutely great bands just don't get that support.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on March 05, 2010, 06:43:59 PM
Good question. They pretty much had to buy themselves out of the Wind-Up contract. I don't think they're planning on leaving Universal anytime soon, but I when it's for the album to get release, they will help the guys much better. If it weren't for the internet, this band would be so low on the radar
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on March 08, 2010, 03:41:10 PM
Update from Elvis Baskett's Twitter

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"12 Alter Bridge Guitar Tracks done. Tracking 13 and 14 with Tremonti right now."
[/quote]
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on March 08, 2010, 03:43:31 PM
Good question. They pretty much had to buy themselves out of the Wind-Up contract. I don't think they're planning on leaving Universal anytime soon, but I when it's for the album to get release, they will help the guys much better. If it weren't for the internet, this band would be so low on the radar

Given the success of the band in Europe, I think Universal sees they could have something. Particularly with Myles Kennedy's increased profile the past year.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: lordxizor on March 09, 2010, 07:02:42 AM
As much as I agree the Alter Bridge could and should be more popular, I can't say I really want them to be. I like being able to go see them live at smaller clubs instead of arenas.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: PixelDream on March 09, 2010, 07:09:23 AM
As much as I agree the Alter Bridge could and should be more popular, I can't say I really want them to be. I like being able to go see them live at smaller clubs instead of arenas.

+1

I believe they're doing it purely for the music and love of playing, not at all for success. The rest of the band has had their fair share of fame already!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: axeman90210 on March 09, 2010, 06:02:44 PM
thanks to reading this thread before I listened to both albums while playing online poker this afternoon. So much win :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on March 09, 2010, 07:39:21 PM
You're welcome! I love introducing this band to people.  :metal



Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: axeman90210 on March 09, 2010, 08:15:24 PM
oh, I've known about them for a couple of years now, but I just realized I hadn't listened to them much in a while
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Perpetual Change on March 09, 2010, 08:23:57 PM
You're welcome! I love introducing this band to people.  :metal

TBH, after the horrible taste I had leftover from years of Creed fandom, I didn't give a crap about Alter Bridge until I saw your banner and realized if people who like DT like Alter Bridge, they must be doing something right.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Adami on March 09, 2010, 08:33:02 PM
Aren't Tremonti and Petrucci friends?
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Elsydeon on March 09, 2010, 10:53:28 PM
Aren't Tremonti and Petrucci friends?
I don't know but I remember hearing tremonti reference petrucci's rock discipline in one of his guitar videos on youtube somewhere
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: sylvan on March 10, 2010, 07:16:59 AM
You're welcome! I love introducing this band to people.  :metal

TBH, after the horrible taste I had leftover from years of Creed fandom, I didn't give a crap about Alter Bridge until I saw your banner and realized if people who like DT like Alter Bridge, they must be doing something right.

I've been an Alter Bridge fan from day 1, no joke.  The day the "Open Your Eyes" video premiered online was the day my life changed.  Seeing the love that fans of a band that is as amazing as Dream Theater have for the band that my life revolves around is very rewarding.  I'm going through withdrawal, I need my live AB fix.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on March 10, 2010, 12:16:48 PM
Aren't Tremonti and Petrucci friends?
I don't know but I remember hearing tremonti reference petrucci's rock discipline in one of his guitar videos on youtube somewhere

Yes, in Tremonti's instructional DVD, he talks about Petrucci's Rock Discipline release and how he (Tremonti) wanted to create his own instructional one one day. Mark Tremonti is a guitar player's guitar player. He's a gear head completely (and that is meant in a complimentary way).
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on March 10, 2010, 09:19:15 PM
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"Finishing the last main guitars with Tremonti and Kennedy today! And starting vocals tonight with Myles!"
:metal :metal :metal


Mark Tremonti is a guitar player's guitar player. He's a gear head completely (and that is meant in a complimentary way).

You speaketh the truth.

Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: sneakyblueberry on March 11, 2010, 06:12:21 PM
Just got done listening to Blackbird again for like the 5th time in a row.  This song is so freaking badass!  So much emotion!  I love this band.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on March 17, 2010, 12:12:46 AM
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Hello Alter Bridge Nation,

We wanted to let you know that our brother in music, Myles Kennedy, sings two amazing songs (titled Back To Cali and Starlight) on Slash’s new, self-titled album and it can now be pre-ordered on iTunes and Amazon.

Here is the link to pre-order on iTunes…

http://itunes.apple.com/us/preorder/slash/id362046305

Here is a link to pre-order on Amazon…

http://www.amazon.com/Slash/dp/B0039OGGVQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1268753435&sr=8-1

We would also like to remind you that Myles will be touring with Slash this summer while the rest of us are touring with Creed. We plan to re-unite as Alter Bridge in October and tour the world, starting in the UK, to support our upcoming album that we are recording right now. We have also been told that, on the Slash tour, Myles will be singing old GNR songs that Slash has not performed since that band broke up. We think that will be worth the price of admission alone. Along with Slash’s new material, we are also told Myles may sing an AB song and possibly debut a song or two from Myles’ own upcoming solo project.

Slash told The Pulse of Radio that he’s really pleased to have Myles Kennedy singing on the tour. “He was one of these sort of youngish rock singers that I wasn’t real familiar with, who is probably one of the best, you know, young new rock singers around,” he said. “There’s actually two songs on the record that he did, and he can basically perform any other songs on the record, plus he knows how to do all the Guns N’ Roses stuff. So it’s worked out nicely.”

So there you have it. Slash knows what we in AB have known for a while. Myles is simply one of the best, if not the best, rock singers around today. And this summer, Slash will also find out what an incredible musician he is as well. That tour will be a sight to behold.

And lastly, we are proud to announce that, last night, Myles finished recording the vocals on song #6 of 17, as the recording of our third album (ABIII) continues. We will update you again as news warrants.

Keep rocking,

Alter Bridge
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Elsydeon on March 17, 2010, 12:24:45 AM
 :metal awesome!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: PixelDream on March 17, 2010, 04:38:40 AM
Can't wait until October for their tour! And this is finally a band where I'm not the only one who likes them. I could bring my whole family if I want, everybody digs them.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on March 17, 2010, 11:05:37 AM
Hoping AB plays my neck of the woods this time. Strangely, they've avoided Northern Cali on both records. I had to fly up to Spokane to see the gig. Which was fun, and Myles was having a great time since it was his hometown. But it was inconvenient to say the least.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on March 22, 2010, 10:47:59 PM
So...

The Deluxe DVD and Blu-Ray version of Live From Amsterdam has been delayed yet again. It was suppose to be released today. This is the 5TH time that Universal Republic has delayed the release of the DVD/Blu-Ray. You can buy the standard version off of Amazon, but for die hard fans like me who want the Blu-Ray or the Deluxe DVD with the documentary, other behind the scenes footage, photos, etc., im getting really pissed off. Here's an up date from Mark Tremonti's brother, Michael:

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Universal is still blocking the release. It will not be at any stores until the lawyers work this out so DO NOT go looking for it.
 Remember, Alter Bridge wants the DVD/Blu-Ray out, DC-3 is ready to ship and Universal is blocking the whole thing. Our management are still trying to work the situation out. The band and myself are pretty pissed at the label.


Brian Marshall tweeted this:
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Ok. Fuck You Universal.

 :metal

Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Adami on March 22, 2010, 10:50:38 PM
Why are they blocking it?
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on March 23, 2010, 01:50:51 PM
Why are they blocking it?

I have no clue. I wish they'd tell us a reason, even it was a bad reason, I still want to know.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on March 23, 2010, 03:08:15 PM
Update from Mark Tremonti!

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Just finished tracking all guitars. Going to be the best AB album to date, dark and heavy. Hoping for September release! Lata..
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: PixelDream on March 23, 2010, 03:31:16 PM
Update from Mark Tremonti!

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Just finished tracking all guitars. Going to be the best AB album to date, dark and heavy. Hoping for September release! Lata..


As if Blackbird wasn´t sick enough already.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on March 23, 2010, 04:19:59 PM
I agree with Brian Marshall.

Son of a bitch. Looks like AB III will be on yet another label. Three records, three different labels. Not good.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Adami on March 23, 2010, 06:02:18 PM
Hopefully they will change up their chorus rythms. There's only so many times you can do the exact same drum beat and very similar chord progression, and tremonti/phillps past that point on the first creed album.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: ReaperKK on March 23, 2010, 06:19:22 PM
Aren't Tremonti and Petrucci friends?

Yes I believe so.

Tremonti gave Petrucci one of his signature PRS guitars, I asked him about it at a JP clinic back in '04.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Basekick on March 23, 2010, 09:58:10 PM
Update from Mark Tremonti!

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Just finished tracking all guitars. Going to be the best AB album to date, dark and heavy. Hoping for September release! Lata..


As if Blackbird wasn´t sick enough already.

You got that right.  One of my favorite albums of the decade.


Hopefully they will change up their chorus rythms. There's only so many times you can do the exact same drum beat and very similar chord progression, and tremonti/phillps past that point on the first creed album.

I'm completely with you here.  That was the only criticism I had of Blackbird.  I really hope they have some more unique choruses this time round.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: sneakyblueberry on March 24, 2010, 10:53:35 PM
Pretty much just watched a DVD called Alter Bridge Live in Amsterdam.  Is this the same DVD we're talking about here?  Most of it is on Youtube...
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Adami on March 24, 2010, 11:02:53 PM
Pretty much just watched a DVD called Alter Bridge Live in Amsterdam.  Is this the same DVD we're talking about here?  Most of it is on Youtube...

Yea it came out. But they want to release a Blu Ray version and a version with a bunch of backstage and bonus stuff.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: sneakyblueberry on March 24, 2010, 11:04:17 PM
Pretty much just watched a DVD called Alter Bridge Live in Amsterdam.  Is this the same DVD we're talking about here?  Most of it is on Youtube...

Yea it came out. But they want to release a Blu Ray version and a version with a bunch of backstage and bonus stuff.

Ah I see.  It was pretty dang ballsy.  Can't wait to see it in hi-def.  If that ever happens.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: sylvan on March 25, 2010, 09:31:48 AM
I don't have blu-ray, so I got the basic dvd months ago.  This dvd should be front and center in every music store in the country.  Ballsy isn't right.  More like fuck-you-in-the-face awesome! :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: PixelDream on March 25, 2010, 11:49:00 AM
But why on earth are they playing every song faster than the album versions? They speed it up so much it's almost losing the groove that is typical for the song.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Adami on March 25, 2010, 12:06:01 PM
But why on earth are they playing every song faster than the album versions? They speed it up so much it's almost losing the groove that is typical for the song.

I didn't notice. But I only watched most of it once, however I did notice that with few exceptions MK kinda wimped out on the vocals, cutting notes short, letting the audience sing parts and just over all lacked the amazingness I expected, though he was good.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: sylvan on March 25, 2010, 12:30:29 PM
But why on earth are they playing every song faster than the album versions? They speed it up so much it's almost losing the groove that is typical for the song.

That seems to be the one thing that true AB fans have with their live work.  Don't ask me why they do it, maybe they just ride the adrenaline.

I don't consider it Myles wimping out, it's just part of the show.  I kinda like hearing the crowd get into it, and I think the band likes it too.  Mark says at the end of Open Your Eyes, "We love when you sing along, Myles is gonna teach you this next part."  And immediately the crowd gets in on time without any cue from Myles.  That to me is what an Alter Bridge show is all about, truly connecting to the music.  Other than Myles warming up over the first few songs, I thought he sounded amazing, and even went the extra mile on some songs to really drive home the emotion.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: sneakyblueberry on March 25, 2010, 02:05:39 PM
But why on earth are they playing every song faster than the album versions? They speed it up so much it's almost losing the groove that is typical for the song.

This. A couple of songs got burnt in that fire. Especially from the first album. Blackbird was gorgeous live though, that's all that matters.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on March 25, 2010, 02:40:49 PM
But why on earth are they playing every song faster than the album versions? They speed it up so much it's almost losing the groove that is typical for the song.

I didn't notice. But I only watched most of it once, however I did notice that with few exceptions MK kinda wimped out on the vocals, cutting notes short, letting the audience sing parts and just over all lacked the amazingness I expected, though he was good.

No, MK starts out shaky, but by about four songs in, he's fine. You could tell in the beginning he wasn't warm and wasn't going for the notes.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Adami on March 25, 2010, 02:56:45 PM
Like I said, only watched it once, and mostly just the begining and then skipped to blackbird. I'll watch it again soon enough.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on March 28, 2010, 11:57:47 PM
Announcement from Michael Tremonti

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All four band members will be very involved in the mixing process. Mark plans on making the trip to NYC to give feedback when the time is appropriate. I'm sure Myles will give feedback via the internet when needed. Remember, this album is like a baby. They will not abandon it in any way and they w...ill nurture it into adulthood (which will be the final version).The cool thing is that the same team who produced and mixed Blackbird are doing this new album as well. So the guys already have a comfort level that all will turn out spectacular."

Gah! This album cannot come soon enough!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on March 29, 2010, 09:59:55 AM
That's cool and all, but man, that written bit by Michael...sounds like a bigger dork than any of us.   :lol
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: kingshmegland on March 30, 2010, 11:54:14 AM
Copied from Alter Bridge's web page.

Hello Alter Bridge Nation,


We are pleased to inform you that the recording of our third album has been completed. It was an amazing journey and we believe that the songs that we have created are our most inspired and dynamic work to date. We all worked very hard on these songs, over a long period of time, and we are all fiercely proud of what we have recorded. We have played some of the rough mixes of the songs to a few of our “trusted ears” and they are telling us that we have absolutely topped the Blackbird album. The true test will come when we get to hear what all you fans think and we are very much looking forward to that day.


The next step in the process will be mixing, which will begin in mid-April, in New York. The mixing will probably take a few weeks and once that is finished, we will begin the difficult task of deciding which songs will make the album. The goal is to release the album in September, before our planned October tour in Europe that will start in the UK. Stay tuned here for the latest news and updates as they happen.


Keep Rocking,


Alter Bridge
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: faemir on March 30, 2010, 03:42:18 PM
 :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: PixelDream on March 30, 2010, 04:14:43 PM
They definaly are in posession of some huge balls for saying this will top 'Blackbird'. Same production team? Awesome. I wouldn't want that new record sounding any less powerful than 'Blackbird'.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Adami on March 30, 2010, 06:04:50 PM
They definaly are in posession of some huge balls for saying this will top 'Blackbird'.

Same huge balls that just about every band has when they announce their new album is their best.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on April 02, 2010, 01:22:13 AM
Here's a sweet vid of a Legato guitar lesson from Mark

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbPsfqttfi0&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on April 11, 2010, 08:48:05 PM
First of all, im totally jealous the folks in the UK will be the first to hear the new Alter Bridge songs live!
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Yes, ladies and gentlemen... Alter Bridge are finally coming back to rock the UK in October. They are going to start in Glasgow and play eight cities in the UK. A European tour will follow. The UK dates will be announced Monday so check www.alterbridge.com and our Myspace page at www.myspace/alterbridge as they should be put up there first.

The UK will be the first to hear some new, ridiculously awesome tunes. Spread the word!!!

Michael Tremonti


Second of all, I'm loving these videos of Myles singing for Slash's tour. He sounds killer on Paradise City!

Paradise City
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzkYGqAXWYE

Rise Today
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXHZt949SIg

Back From Cali
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Zl_YWmdWHg
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Adami on April 11, 2010, 09:15:58 PM
I'm watching the PC video. Good god, the video guy needs to stop wanting to have sex with slash, there are other people in the band.

Also, MK sounds good, whish I could actually hear him a bit more.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: sylvan on April 12, 2010, 07:11:32 AM
This person has better quality vids:

Civil War - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baELa_DD59s

Myles sounds so amazing, I'm just running out of new ways to say the same thing.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: sneakyblueberry on April 12, 2010, 07:51:31 AM
That crowd won't let Myles tell his story at the beginning of Paradise City.  Cunce.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on April 12, 2010, 09:20:38 AM
Wow. Myles sounds amazing (to be expected), particularly on CIVIL WAR (one of my all time favorite GnR cuts).
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on April 12, 2010, 01:23:08 PM
Slash definitely got the right person for his tour. Slash's solo album isn't half bad either. I'm diggin it.


The Alter Bridge UK date are out! Taken from the official website

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New Alter Bridge October UK Tour Dates
Alter Bridge Set To Return To The UK
For Full October Tour

Third Album To Be Released Later This Year

London 12th April 2010 – Anthemic rockers Alter Bridge have today announced that they will be returning to the UK this October to tour the country once again in support of their forthcoming 3rd studio album (further details tba).

After a hugely successful UK tour in support of their stunning second album ‘Blackbird’ in November 2008, Alter Bridge – Myles Kennedy, Mark Tremonti, Brian Marshall and Scott Philips have been busy. As well as writing a brand new album, they’ve also been pursuing individual projects – Myles has co-written and lent his incredible vocals to 2 tracks from the new album from ex-Guns N Roses Guitarist Slash, which has been met with huge acclaim from both fans and critics alike. Myles is also going to be joining Slash on tour as vocalist when the rock legend tours his new album this summer. Meanwhile, Tremonti, Marshall and Philips have reunited with ex band mate Scott Stapp to reform their previous band Creed and are touring the USA.

But with a brand new album to add to their spectacular arsenal, the band cannot wait to come back to the UK to wow fans up and down the country once again with their captivating blend of crowd pleasing, fist pumping anthems and raw, life affirming ballads. Speaking on the band’s October tour, Myles Kennedy had the following to say

“We can’t wait to get back and share the new songs with our friends in the UK. It’s going to be a great run!”

Make sure you get your ticket to what is guaranteed to be one of the best rock shows you will see in 2010.

OCTOBER 2010

Saturday 16   Glasgow Academy


Sunday 17   02 Academy Newcastle


Tuesday   19   Manchester Academy


Wednesday   20   Nottingham Rock City


Friday    22   Hammersmith HMV Apollo


Saturday   23   Southampton Guildhall


Monday   25   02 Academy Birmingham


Tuesday   26   Bristol Colston Hall

Tickets go onsale 9am on Friday 16th April priced at £17.50 adv reg/ £19.50 adv London (subject to booking fee) and are available from www.livenation.co.uk


Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: AcidLameLTE on April 12, 2010, 01:24:26 PM
Tell them to stop playing in Glasgow. It's too much of a hassle to go there.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on April 12, 2010, 03:38:46 PM
Looking forward to the U.S. dates.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on April 16, 2010, 12:54:46 PM
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"We are proud to offer all of our die-hard fans on the internet the first shot at purchasing tickets to our upcoming show in Antwerp, Belgium on October 28th at Trix. This show will not even be announced to the general public until Monday 04/19 so take advantage of this secret pre-sale.

All you have to do is send an email to biebob@telenet.be with your request. You will then receive an email back with all the details including ticket pricing and pre-sale instructions.

Good luck and do not forget that all of our UK Tour tickets went on-sale today. Make sure to check back here on Monday as we will be announcing the first of our European dates. In addition to Belgium, we will announce dates on Monday from two other countries and there will be more in the future.

Keep Rocking,

Alter Bridge "
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: sylvan on April 17, 2010, 03:58:13 PM
No doubt I'll have tickets the second they go on sale for U.S. dates.  Living in Florida means at least one show within driving distance, guaranteed.  It literally feels like forever since seeing them last.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on May 11, 2010, 01:31:40 PM
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Hello Alter Bridge Nation,

We wanted to inform you that we are in New York City overseeing the final mixing of our third album. We are very pleased with what our friend, Brian Sperber, has come up with thus far and we are all working on the finishing touches. The mixing process will be finished in the next few days and then we will be able to live with the final mixes of all seventeen songs for a while. After that, we will decide what songs will make the album, title it and send it off to be mastered. Stay tuned here for the latest news on our forthcoming album. We can not wait to unleash it on the world later this year.

Please remember that tickets are now available for our 2010 tour of the UK and Europe. All of the tour dates and ticket info can be found in the Tour Section at alterbridge.com or on our Myspace page.

Keep rocking,

Alter Bridge

Awesome!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on June 04, 2010, 10:38:34 AM
Cranked the Blackbird album today. My fourth favorite album of all time.   :metal

Can't wait for AB III. Been watching various live DVDs of AB lately as well. Just an immensely talented band. My current favorite band.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Basekick on June 04, 2010, 01:03:20 PM
Quote from: Mark Tremonti
“Been a long road mixing this AB record, finally decided Ted Jensen will do the mastering honors. 1st round sounds great! See you guys soon!”

So close...
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on June 21, 2010, 05:31:01 PM
MAJOR NEWS!!!!


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Hello Alter Bridge Nation,

We are proud to announce that the entire recording process on our third album is completely finished. All of the seventeen songs we worked so hard on have been recorded, painstakingly mixed and we now hold the final mastered versions in our possession. These songs have turned out even better then we could have imagined and we are fiercely proud of the efforts of everyone involved that made our vision a reality.

We want all of our fans to know that we created these songs with no outside influence whatsoever, just like we did with the One Day Remains and Blackbird albums. And, like the Blackbird album, we financed our latest project with our own funds, without the support of our current record label. We want you to know that our artistic vision is never compromised and that the songs you will hear later this year are exactly what we have intended. We can not wait to unleash this new album on the world.

Our management team is working hard on some exciting business opportunities behind the scenes and as soon as they are finished we will be able to give you a clear date on when the album will be released and when the first single will be sent to radio and be available to purchase. We will also be able to give you news on when our long delayed Blu-Ray and Deluxe DVD (Alter Bridge - Live From Amsterdam) will be in stores world-wide. We will update you on all of this as soon as we hear some news.

In the meanwhile, all of us in the band must now decide on the name of the album, finalize the song names (not as easy as you would think) and lastly, and this will be hardest, decide how many and which tracks will make the album. Stay tuned here because as we fit the final pieces of the puzzle together, we will update you as it happens.

That is all the news for now and a big thanks to all you fans who have stuck with us from the start and a big welcome to all you new fans who are just discovering us. We always aim to top our last album and we firmly believe we have done that with this new collection of songs. We are looking forward to hearing what all you fans think so stay tuned and we will update you again as soon as we have some solid news to report.

Keep rocking,

Alter Bridge
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: wolfking on June 22, 2010, 06:37:38 AM
There is still no sign of the Amsterdam dvd here in Australia  :(
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Jamesman42 on June 23, 2010, 01:14:48 PM
They have a DVD? I want to get it to really know them better. I love their sound.

Cannot wait for their new album.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on June 23, 2010, 04:52:10 PM
Jamesman, they do, and it's so good! But their record label has been giving them a lot of grief on releasing the DVDs, and they have stocks of Deluxe editions and Blu-Rays they are trying to release to the world. Here's a preview they have on YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5jKMjLDpWw

Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: wolfking on June 24, 2010, 04:14:00 AM
Jamesman, they do, and it's so good! But their record label has been giving them a lot of grief on releasing the DVDs, and they have stocks of Deluxe editions and Blu-Rays they are trying to release to the world. Here's a preview they have on YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5jKMjLDpWw



Not releasing this is just criminal.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on July 14, 2010, 12:13:26 AM
Here's an amazing interview with Myles Kennedy about the new Alter Bridge album, his tour with Slash, and guitar equipment

http://www.musicradar.com/guitarist/myles-kennedy-alter-bridge-slash-interview-260683/3
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I
t's been one hell of a ride for Myles Kennedy since the last Alter Bridge album, 2007's Blackbird. He's jammed with Led Zeppelin when it looked like they may be looking for another singer, recorded a solo album (due 2011) and now he's the singer with Slash's solo band. But he's also found time for his main passion – teaming up with Mark Tremonti again and write a third Alter Bridge record - working title AB III – and due ahead of their UK tour in October.

Here's the full transcript of our chat with Myles about his last couple of years and what we can expect from the next Alter Bridge album.

Have you completed mixing on the new Alter Bridge album?

Myles Kennedy: "We thought we'd completed it, I was in New York last week with the guys and we thought we had it pretty much wrapped up. Then we got it out of there, listened to it and spent some time then realised we wanted to change a few more things. We're definitely a bunch of perfectionists so we're just trying to get it right. It's almost done." [update: the album is now mixed and mastered]

Do you have a release date in mind yet?

"We're pushing for the third quarter – we definitely want to get it out before we tour over there in October."

You've mentioned previously that this is a darker album than the previous two, are you moving into a more progressive territory too?

"Darker from a lyrical standpoint most definitely. Musically, there are definitely moments that have that intensity and have that darkness to it. We try to balance that with the other side of the band, which is that uplifting anthemic vibe.

"Personally I don't think it's a good idea to alienate those fans that like either one side or the other. You want to try your best to make both parties happy. Lyrically it's pretty dark on a lot of the record – it's not like it's mopey, whinny music though. We definitely try to add a sense of dynamics."

Are the themes quite personal on this album for you?

"I guess it is a pretty personal record in some regard. For me personally, over the last few years a lot of things came up – things I started questioning. It deals with a lot of doubts. Doubts in life and all that comes along with it. If you make records personal in that way, it always seems to have a sort of cathartic quality… it's not necessarily the goal it just ends up happening. You work through some things."

Like a release?

"Yes, and it's great."

Have you got any song titles you can reveal to us yet?

"It's funny because a lot of the song titles are working titles so they're absolutely silly. But there's a song called Isolation that I'm sure will make the record and that's a real heavy track. Let's see… we have Show Me A Sign and Ghosts Of Days Gone By is another one that we seem to all really like."

Blackbird was such a landmark song for you – did that make you realise that people were keen to hear more expansive, epic structures from the band?

"It certainly did. That was a really special song, I'll never forget how it felt when we'd completed that. We tapped into something that doesn't come along on every record that's for sure. We were really happy that the people who support us really embraced it as well.

"Going into this record you can make the mistake of trying to top that – we've got to write another Blackbird, we have a song that's better. It would be like when Zeppelin had recorded Stairway To Heaven or Kashmir, asking what's going to be our Kashmir on this record? I don't think you can go at it that way because you'll just be destined for failure. So we just tried to do what we do and there are certainly songs that have an epic vibe.

"There's a song called Slip To The Void, which is fairly long and has more of an epic approach. And I guess for lack of a better term some people might throw the progressive tag on it. I don't know if it necessarily falls into that – a few people have brought that up who have heard it. I don't even know what progressive is anymore to be honest!"

It's a term that gets used a lot these days

"It really does – bands such as Yes used to fall into that category but now it's very different."

Can we expect more lead interplay between yourself and Mark on this album?

"Yes definitely – there's plenty more of that on this record. The interesting thing on the Blackbird album is I took a lot of the bluesier approach on a song such as Blackbird – more of the David Gilmour approach. Mark has his way of going about it. On this record because a lot of it is pretty intense, for me personally on the solos I ended up playing I got to dig way back… dare I use this word but more of the technical approach. Not necessarily shred but it didn't seem to work when I'd sit there and milk a note forever and think about with more of a bluesy way of thinking.

"I'm definitely doing things I haven't done in a long time as a guitar player. My leads aren't long and drawn out but they're definitely there. My job more than leads, in the context of this band, is adding the textures and the colours. I'm as influenced by the Edge as any other guitar player. I've always love the way he brings a sonic landscape into the mix.

So is Mark refining the metal/blues hybrid style that's become his trademark?

"Well I think Mark is playing the best he's ever played. Seeing him in the dressing room playing four or five hours every day before shows is paying off for him. Without a doubt I think these are his best leads.

"I think he's refined [that style]. That's the beauty of the way he plays – he's got a very signature sound. His vibrato is very unique, even though he always complains about his vibrato, I think it's one of his strengths – you know it's him.

"His arsenal, his theory knowledge has grown quite a bit even in the last three years, so he understands how to play over the changes. When a chord progression is being played under his solo he's landing on a chord note. Which I love, my favourite solos are always where [the player] touches on the chord tones. So he's definitely doing that on this record – not just staying in a certain scale or mode but touching on the changes."

You've both been busy with other records lately – Mark with Creed and yourself with Slash and recording a solo album of your own. Were the Alter Bridge album sessions quite high pressured as a result?

"Mark and I are always writing and stockpiling ideas, so when we got together in early January and started piecing the parts together it wasn't that we had a lack of ideas. Where it was different was as far as the arrangements went, we didn't have as much time as we did on Blackbird to sit there and over analyse everything. So the arrangement process was much more spontaneous and I think that in some respects that can bode well. Because the records that are spontaneous like that tend to sound fresh and you don't get bogged down with overthinking."

Did that come through when it came to dialling in the guitar tones – did it come together pretty quick?

"Really quick, and a lot of that is because of Michael Baskette, Elvis – the guy who produced this record and the last Alter Bridge album. He's fantastic at getting tones. I've worked with him now for ten years, back in the Mayfield Four [Myles' previous band – hear Mayfield Four here ] I saw that gift early on with him and he's just got a great instinct.

"The guitar tones for the most part on the entire record are pretty much what we use live. I used my PRS 245 straight into my Diezel Herbert and my Mesa/Boogie Mk IV and that was pretty much my sound. There were a few parts here and there that called for a Vox or something like that but for the most part that's what I used. And I believe with Mark it was the same thing. Whatever he uses live."

So no changes to your rigs?

"We kept it pretty much the same but I think Mark used a Two-Rock and that's a great sounding amp. It has such an incredible, big round sound. His lead tone sounds really good on this record."

Did you use the PRS McCarty that you nicknamed the Mule on this album?

"I did a little bit but the Mule's been acting up lately! I didn't know what's been going on. I beat it up really bad at a show a couple of years ago and my tech and I have noticed that ever since we did that it hasn't sounded the same. We beat it to death! But the 245 is the main one on this album – a sunburst with a really special sound to it."

What pickups do you have in it?

"I use a Seymour Duncan Custom Custom in that one, it's just a great combination with the scale of that guitar and the mahogany body. It really works, sits nicely in the mix."

We heard that you're a fan of the David Grissom DGT PRS model too?

"I love that guitar – such a classy sounding guitar. I actually discovered it through Dave. We were playing at a PRS event [the annual PRS Experience] and when Dave got up and played I thought, damn that guy's tone is unbelievable. So I asked if I could pick the guitar up and he was really cool about it. It was actually the prototype, because this was a few years ago, and I loved the neck dimensions on it. Everything they did to it has made it a really great lead guitar – it sounds amazing."

Are the guitars exclusively PRS on this album for you both?

"Yes, I believe so, on the electric side. As far as acoustic goes I think we used Taylors."

Are you layering with acoustics or are there any wholly acoustic songs?

"There are a couple of songs that are basically acoustic-driven, I don't know if they'll make the record or not. It's not like we have a stripped down singer/songwriter arrangement on the record, it's all kind of tucked in there with the acoustics."

Mark's become a big fan of T-Rex pedals, have you introduced anything new to your board?

"Yes the guys at T-Rex were kind enough to send some pedals our way and I really like the Mudhoney [overdrive] a lot and that got used for a few of my leads. Other than that I'm just sticking with the tried and true. I've used Fulltone pedals for the last 12 years, I love them. There's a pedal they have called the Ultimate Octave and I've used that on pretty much every record I've played on. The Line 6 blue [MM4 modulation modelling pedal] and green pedal [DL4 delay] are such great workhorses too. I've only had to replace one in the last 10 years of using them, I really like those pedals."

What guitar players have been inspiring you lately?

"I'm always trying to discover new guys to see where people are taking the instrument. I'm a really big fan of Andy McKee – I think he's an amazing acoustic guitar player and he's taken the torch from where Michael Hedges left off. He's an amazing talent. I love Warren Haynes, I think he's brilliant… Derek Trucks too. He's from another planet!"

You've had a very interesting time in period you've been away from Alter Bridge, verging on surreal – you've performed alongside two of your guitar heroes, Jimmy Page and Slash…

"Yes – life has really turned out way different than I ever expected. When I was a kid and listening to Zeppelin and Guns N' Roses, if someone had told me that there would come a time and I would play some of those songs with those people I would never have believed it. Surreal is an understatement. I'm extremely lucky to have been able to play with those guys and learn from those guys. It's been something else man.

"I'm having a great time with Slash right now – he's a great guy and he's really playing better than ever. He's on fire right now."

It sounds like you're very comfortable singing the old Guns N' Roses songs with him. Axl Rose has a very unorthodox vocal style – is it a technical challenge for you?

"It's a challenge singing those songs and I really embrace that. First of all, I love those songs – they're classics and some of the greatest songs ever written. I really work hard to make sure I'm doing the best I can because I know people really want to hear them a certain way. I have respect for the legacy of those songs – I really try to get it right every night. It's a challenge."

And you're performing an Alter Bridge song with Slash too, Rise Today…

"Yes that's been fun. He's cool in that he asked, Do you want to do an Alter Bridge song? Absolutely! I thought that song would fit best. It's really cool hearing him play the solo, I really like it because he improvises and makes it up on the fly. It's really cool to hear him go off on it."

With all this going on, you're understandably holding off until next year to release your first solo album…

"It felt like if I went ahead and put it out this year it would be too much. Basically Slash called right when I was working on the solo record. He called just prior to when I was working on drums and I didn't have any idea where it would all end up as far as two songs on his record, and as far as touring. I wasn't sure what was going to happen as far as timing of putting out the third record. It's all worked out well in that both records are coming out this year but I thought if I put out a third, a solo record in one year people are going to get sick of me real quick."

This solo album will be a departure from hard rock though?

"Yes it is definitely different – more of a singer songwriter approach. It's very different, it's not going to be a hard rock record. I really enjoyed putting that record together – it was maybe the most difficult thing I've ever done in the sense that I didn't have a band.

I was sitting there with Logic and programming everything until I too it to the players. And that's a different way of arranging. It's nice to have people to bounce ideas off but I really wanted to challenge myself – what would happen if you made a record and everything came from your heart and your head?"

Alter Bridge are coming over here to the UK in October, will we be the first to hear the new songs or do you plan a couple of US shows to road test them?

"We don't have anything before we get over there in the middle of October."

The band's always had such a strong connection with the UK – do fans over here get what you're about more than anywhere else? Is there a stronger connection than anywhere else?

"Yes definitely – it's been that way since we first went there six years ago. It's funny because as an artist you play all these different places and you think, people are people so they're going to react in the same way you'd assume. We're all human beings.

But I think a lot of it has to do with what each culture has listened to throughout their lives – rock n' roll has been such a mainstay of the culture in the UK and you guys did it better initially. Even though a lot of the blues-based – the Delta and Chicago – music was what those bands in the 1960s were trying to emulate, it worked out extremely well.

It wrote the blueprint for rock and we're still following that today. People in the UK just get it, they always have and so we'll continue to go there."

Ghosts Of Days Gone By sounds like a potential album title to me. This is a great interview. A good read
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on July 18, 2010, 12:49:58 AM
I saw this article about Creed and caught this passage!


http://www.billboard.com/news/creed-hits-the-studio-before-launching-summer-1004104898.story?tag=hpfeed#/news/creed-hits-the-studio-before-launching-summer-1004104898.story?tag=hpfeed

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Tremonti, bassist Brian Marshall and drummer Scott Phillips, meanwhile, have finished work on the third album by their other band, Alter Bridge, which is due out in late September on Roadrunner, with a European tour starting Oct. 16 and North American dates with Godsmack slated to start in March.


 :omg:


ZOMGPLEASESIGNWITHROADRUNNERRAWTYTFDSFUY


Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: LCArenas on July 18, 2010, 03:00:58 AM
ROADRUNNER? THAT MEANS

-They could do wider tours and even can come here to South America
-They could get more promoted
-And most of all, I COULD BUY THEIR DISCS! I can't find Blackbird or One Day Remains anywhere here.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: wolfking on July 18, 2010, 05:08:42 AM
Even though Roadrunner has a lot of crap bands, any band that does sign with them is a very good thing.  Can't wait for another disc from these guys, I wonder if I'll get the DVD first  ::)
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: PixelDream on July 18, 2010, 05:13:01 AM
ROADRUNNER? THAT MEANS

-They could do wider tours and even can come here to South America
-They could get more promoted
-And most of all, I COULD BUY THEIR DISCS! I can't find Blackbird or One Day Remains anywhere here.

Same here, I never see their stuff in the regular record stores. I could buy them online, but I´m a lazy fart, plus I like to buy CD´s when I see them in the store.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: wolfking on July 18, 2010, 05:22:55 AM
ROADRUNNER? THAT MEANS

-They could do wider tours and even can come here to South America
-They could get more promoted
-And most of all, I COULD BUY THEIR DISCS! I can't find Blackbird or One Day Remains anywhere here.

Same here, I never see their stuff in the regular record stores. I could buy them online, but I´m a lazy fart, plus I like to buy CD´s when I see them in the store.

Here in Brisbane Australia both their cd's are quite easy to find in store.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on July 19, 2010, 06:25:08 PM
New blog


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Hello Alter Bridge Nation,

We wanted all of you to know that the four of us were together this past weekend (it has been far too long) for a photo-shoot we completed with the incredibly talented photographer, Ashley Maile. The shoot went off without a hitch and it was awesome to re-connect again as friends and to also hear how much fun Myles is having on the Slash Tour. While we are sad we may not see each other again until September, we are very excited for our pending new album release and our upcoming tour of Europe and the UK that begins in October.

We spoke about the album name, number of songs we should have on it and also what the final song names should be. We decided to hold off on a final decision until our management finishes the business side of things and we are cornered into doing so. By all indications, this should be happening fairly soon.

We know rumors are starting to fly but we assure you we will issue a press release here and to the world at large with a ton of exciting information once it is appropriate to do so.

So, stay tuned, and as soon as we have new news that is fit to print (with new photos!), we will let you know.

Keep rocking,

Alter Bridge


Dammit. All i need is one song... just one song to hold me over till Sept or Oct or whenever this album is suppose to be released. Just one.

On the other hand, these new photos will do fine for now

(http://www.ashleymaile.com/portfolios/1/11.jpg)

(http://www.ashleymaile.com/portfolios/3/7.jpg)




Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH ALBUM TITLE AND TRACKS)
Post by: Accelerando on August 09, 2010, 02:50:05 PM
UPDATE ON THE NEW ALBUM AND TRACKLISTING!!!!!!

The third Alter Bridge album will be called "AB III" according to the newest blog on MySpace. They've been updating the track lists all day. There's 14 tracks, 4 more to go!!!


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Hello Alter Bridge Nation,

We told you that we would give you information as soon as we get it and now we are making good on that pledge. We have decided to name our upcoming album AB III. It is simple yet effective, in our opinion.

We have also chosen which songs will be on the album and we think all of you fans will be very happy about what we chose. We will update this track listing throughout the day so stay tuned to this message for updates.

AB III (Album Title)

Track 1) Slip To The Void

Track 2) Isolation

Track 3) Ghost Of Days Gone By

Track 4) All Hope Is Gone

Track 5) Still Remains

Track 6) Make It Right

Track 7) Wonderful Life

Track 8) I Know It Hurts

Track 9) Show Me A Sign

Track 10) Fallout

Track 11) Breathe Again

Track 12)

Track 13)

Track 14)

Keep Rocking,

Alter Bridge


Read more: http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=7326114&blogId=538048801#ixzz0w8z9Jdxb
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW ALBUM TITLE AND TRACKS)
Post by: Accelerando on August 09, 2010, 04:07:02 PM
Ok, official titles are in!


Track 1) Slip To The Void

Track 2) Isolation

Track 3) Ghost Of Days Gone By

Track 4) All Hope Is Gone

Track 5) Still Remains

Track 6) Make It Right

Track 7) Wonderful Life

Track 8 I Know It Hurts

Track 9) Show Me A Sign

Track 10) Fallout

Track 11) Breathe Again

Track 12) Coeur D’Alene

Track 13) Life Must Go On

Track 14) Words Darker Than Their Wings
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW ALBUM TITLE AND TRACKS)
Post by: kingshmegland on August 09, 2010, 04:08:36 PM
Can't wait for this CD.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW ALBUM TITLE AND TRACKS)
Post by: sneakyblueberry on August 09, 2010, 04:30:20 PM
Creaming it.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW ALBUM TITLE AND TRACKS)
Post by: Accelerando on August 09, 2010, 04:34:36 PM
I'm really liking the sound of these titles. Slip To The Void and Words Darker Than Their Wings sounds epic!  :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW ALBUM TITLE AND TRACKS)
Post by: Gadough on August 09, 2010, 04:39:40 PM
Don't call my name, don't call my name...Accelerando.

Sorry. I just thought of that joke last night and I figured this would be an appropriate place for it.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW ALBUM TITLE AND TRACKS)
Post by: Accelerando on August 09, 2010, 04:41:16 PM
 :rollin
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW ALBUM TITLE AND TRACKS)
Post by: wolfking on August 10, 2010, 04:09:35 AM
Those tracks sound pretty killer.  First day buyer right here!!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW ALBUM TITLE AND TRACKS)
Post by: PixelDream on August 10, 2010, 05:06:11 AM
Hell yeah, I'm ready for more heavy and melodic epicness!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW ALBUM TITLE AND TRACKS)
Post by: AcidLameLTE on August 10, 2010, 05:08:08 AM
Sounds good. I haven't listened to Alter Bridge in such a long time. I think I'll give One Day Remains a spin today :hat
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW ALBUM TITLE AND TRACKS)
Post by: Accelerando on August 11, 2010, 12:48:47 AM
Speaking of which, MTV just did an article on ODR, calling it "one of the great underrated mainstream rock records of the past decade." There's a video of them playing an acoustic version of Open Your Eyes on the link below.

http://newsroom.mtv.com/2010/08/10/alter-bridge-one-day-remains/

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Alter Bridge Have One Good Day: Wake-Up Video
Posted 18 hrs ago by Kyle Anderson in Wake-Up Video
Though their reunion hasn't been met with the sort of enthusiasm they were probably expecting, you cannot underestimate just how big Creed were at their peak. The combination of radio-friendly riffing and post-grunge brooding made songs like "My Own Prison," "With Arms Wide Open," "Higher" and "My Sacrifice" into ubiquitous rock hits. So when frontman Scott Stapp ducked out to pursue a solo career, he left behind a powerful rock trio who decided to continue on as Alter Bridge. They recruited singer Myles Kennedy and released their debut album One Day Remains on this day in 2004.

One Day Remains is one of the great underrated mainstream rock records of the past decade, full of the same sort of charging riffs as the Creed albums without Stapp's Jesus Christ pose posturing. Songs like "Find the Real" and "Metalingus" bring together charging riffs with huge choruses for an over-the-top but undeniable rock stew. Kennedy has one of the best voices in rock music, and he uses it to full effect all over One Day Remains. (His bluesy versatility earned him a spot as the singer on Slash's latest tour, which saw Kennedy shift from Guns N' Roses tunes to Velvet Revolver songs to Slash's latest solo tracks with ease.)

Though a handful of their songs crept into pop culture (WWE wrestler Edge uses "Metalingus" as his entrance music, and the band played "Open Your Eyes" at the 2005 Major League Baseball All-Star Game), they never truly enjoyed a massive hit. But the aforementioned "Open Your Eyes" is a truly spectacular rock song, full of angst, sadness and redemption folded into its shout-along chorus.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW ALBUM TITLE AND TRACKS)
Post by: sylvan on August 11, 2010, 07:28:23 AM
Speaking of which, MTV just did an article on ODR, calling it "one of the great underrated mainstream rock records of the past decade." There's a video of them playing an acoustic version of Open Your Eyes on the link below.

http://newsroom.mtv.com/2010/08/10/alter-bridge-one-day-remains/

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Alter Bridge Have One Good Day: Wake-Up Video
Posted 18 hrs ago by Kyle Anderson in Wake-Up Video
Though their reunion hasn't been met with the sort of enthusiasm they were probably expecting, you cannot underestimate just how big Creed were at their peak. The combination of radio-friendly riffing and post-grunge brooding made songs like "My Own Prison," "With Arms Wide Open," "Higher" and "My Sacrifice" into ubiquitous rock hits. So when frontman Scott Stapp ducked out to pursue a solo career, he left behind a powerful rock trio who decided to continue on as Alter Bridge. They recruited singer Myles Kennedy and released their debut album One Day Remains on this day in 2004.

One Day Remains is one of the great underrated mainstream rock records of the past decade, full of the same sort of charging riffs as the Creed albums without Stapp's Jesus Christ pose posturing. Songs like "Find the Real" and "Metalingus" bring together charging riffs with huge choruses for an over-the-top but undeniable rock stew. Kennedy has one of the best voices in rock music, and he uses it to full effect all over One Day Remains. (His bluesy versatility earned him a spot as the singer on Slash's latest tour, which saw Kennedy shift from Guns N' Roses tunes to Velvet Revolver songs to Slash's latest solo tracks with ease.)

Though a handful of their songs crept into pop culture (WWE wrestler Edge uses "Metalingus" as his entrance music, and the band played "Open Your Eyes" at the 2005 Major League Baseball All-Star Game), they never truly enjoyed a massive hit. But the aforementioned "Open Your Eyes" is a truly spectacular rock song, full of angst, sadness and redemption folded into its shout-along chorus.


Can't help but wonder where MTV has been for the last 6 years.  Hopefully they have eyes on this new album when it comes out, it would be nice to see some sort of promotion, even if it is just a good review from MTV.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW ALBUM TITLE AND TRACKS)
Post by: axeman90210 on August 11, 2010, 07:43:51 AM
do fucking want new Alter Bridge :D
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW ALBUM TITLE AND TRACKS)
Post by: zxlkho on August 11, 2010, 07:46:35 AM
I'm not the biggest fan of their first album, but I loved Blackbird. I'll be looking forward to this.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW ALBUM TITLE AND TRACKS)
Post by: LCArenas on August 11, 2010, 01:37:30 PM
Track 10) Fallout
Like The Mayfield Four first album title, as well as title track?


NUGGETZ MAN, FUCKING NUGGETZ!!!!!


Also this is incredibly relevant to my interests
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW ALBUM TITLE AND TRACKS)
Post by: Accelerando on August 12, 2010, 12:13:19 PM
^^ lol

Speaking of Myles, Slash's new music video feat. Myles of vocals, "Back To Cali", was just released! Pretty good video that takes footage from their live performances on Slash's tour, but this is the best spliced video i've seen with this type of music video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKzFyYEsGf0

Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW ALBUM TITLE AND TRACKS)
Post by: sneakyblueberry on August 12, 2010, 07:01:33 PM
I have come to the conclusion that Myles singing for Slash is the worst thing to happen to him since he started being a musician.  He looks like he's trying so hard to fit into this bullshit, cliche, I-breathe-rock-n-roll rockstar image that Slash has been raping his whole life.  That video was a cringe fest.  Myles should jump that ship and just stick to what he does best instead of trying to be Axl Rose IMO.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW ALBUM TITLE AND TRACKS)
Post by: Perpetual Change on August 12, 2010, 07:39:29 PM
He still looks a hundred times better than any of the other guys in alter bridge look hanging out with that one-of-a-kind doofus and all around disappointing human being, Scott Stapp.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW ALBUM TITLE AND TRACKS)
Post by: sneakyblueberry on August 12, 2010, 09:20:26 PM
:lol tru dat
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW ALBUM TITLE AND TRACKS)
Post by: Accelerando on August 16, 2010, 07:54:27 PM
Michael Tremonti is teasing the fans with this post he written on ABB.Net


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I'm pretty damn excited for all of you to hear AB III. I think epic is the correct word. I think it is safe to say that from the second this album starts, you will be surprised. And I think that by the time the first song is over that surprise will turn into elation. The Alter Bridge sound is unmistakable, yet these guys have presented it in a fresh way on every song on this album. The album is a dark descent at times. Eerie at others. Heart-breaking yet beautiful in one particular song. It is a journey through almost madness that reaches for the light by the end. Well, almost the end. That final song is a stunner.

I can not overstate the fact that the sheer amount of music and incredible melodies packed within this 14 track album is immense. Without a doubt, the band took every single great idea that sprang from years of writing and created a work of art.

Some more nuggets of info...

1) Show Me A Sign is, quite possibly, even more epic than Words Darker Than Their Wings. Solos by both Mark and Myles. And it is very dark. Case in point... one of the lyrics is "To the dark, I am born." Incredible ending by Flip on the drums!

2) Myles lets his voice fly on Breathe Again, in stunning fashion. I'm not sure if the part in Breathe Again or the vocal gymnastics he does at the end of Words Darker Than Their Wings is more impressive.

3) The guitar line that Mark opens up Ghost Of Days Gone By with is pretty unique. I truly have not heard anything like it and Myles told Mark that it could be the best part he has ever written. What he is doing sounds pretty complex, yet beautiful and I can not wait to see him play it just so I can see how he does it. And I do not want my talking about the opening guitar to overshadow the song itself. It is an absolute monster!

4) Isolation will crush you like a bug. Without a doubt, this song is pure bone-crunching metal and aggressive in a way you have not seen before by Alter Bridge. Harder than White Knuckles.

5) In my opinion, all four band members shine on this album brighter than ever before. Again, this album was constructed to take the listener on a hell of a ride so be sure to listen to it all the way through when you get it in order to get the full effect.



AHHHHZOMGHAIHSFRUEGHFUEWGFEUFGFOUG!!!!!!!!!


EDIT:

Wanna hear an excerpt from Wonderful Life? Sure ya do :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-AXAd4AHRs
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW ALBUM TITLE AND TRACKS)
Post by: Samsara on August 16, 2010, 09:37:39 PM
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Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW ALBUM TITLE AND TRACKS)
Post by: LCArenas on August 16, 2010, 09:53:57 PM
Well that seems pretty interesting. I'm looking forward to-
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... one of the lyrics is "To the dark, I am born."
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Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW ALBUM TITLE AND TRACKS)
Post by: Adami on August 16, 2010, 10:06:50 PM
To the dark I am born? Shouldn't it be darkness? Or dark side? Or dark tall and handseome?
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW ALBUM TITLE AND TRACKS)
Post by: Accelerando on August 19, 2010, 12:58:09 PM
I just found this monster video of the band playing "Find The Real" on Leno back in 2004. This is such a great performance, and Tremonti is a monster on that gee-tar

http://marktremonti.net/video.php?vid=32
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW ALBUM TITLE AND TRACKS)
Post by: Basekick on August 20, 2010, 01:01:35 AM
I just found this monster video of the band playing "Find The Real" on Leno back in 2004. This is such a great performance, and Tremonti is a monster on that gee-tar

http://marktremonti.net/video.php?vid=32

Daaaaaaammmm.  That high note Myles hits at the end there is absolutely monster.   :metal :metal :metal  I'll admit, I was disappointed he didn't go after it when I saw them live a couple years ago, but he nailed it here.  Awesome.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW ALBUM TITLE AND TRACKS)
Post by: Adami on August 20, 2010, 01:06:08 AM
Teehee, his voice cracked.

Good stuff though.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW ALBUM TITLE AND TRACKS)
Post by: wolfking on August 20, 2010, 04:01:48 AM
I just found this monster video of the band playing "Find The Real" on Leno back in 2004. This is such a great performance, and Tremonti is a monster on that gee-tar

http://marktremonti.net/video.php?vid=32

yeah, I always loved this one, I have it on a cd somewhere in mpg format.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW ALBUM TITLE AND TRACKS)
Post by: Accelerando on August 31, 2010, 09:18:07 AM
Best news I've heard all week  :metal :metal :metal :metal

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Roadrunner Records are delighted to welcome American rock band ALTER BRIDGE to the family. The band will be represented by Roadrunner worldwide, with the exception of North America (an announcement regarding North America will be released in the near future). Since they formed in 2004, Alter Bridge have built a loyal fan-base through relentless touring and their stellar live performances, selling more than a million albums and in the process becoming one of the most respected rock bands in the world.

Grammy-winning songwriter/guitarist Mark Tremonti comments, "There is a real sense of excitement in the Alter Bridge camp to be able to partner-up with Roadrunner. With their proven track record worldwide and the hard work we have put in touring internationally, it seems like the perfect combination." Wally van Middendorp, Roadrunner’s Snr VP International, states, “I am extremely pleased that we have added Alter Bridge to our international artist roster and I am confident the band will reach the next level with their upcoming record.”

Alter Bridge’s first release with Roadrunner will be their forthcoming third studio album, succinctly titled AB III. Set for release on October 11 with Michael “Elvis” Baskette producing, the band – completed by vocalist/guitarist/songwriter Myles Kennedy (who also fronts Slash’s touring band), bassist Brian Marshall, and drummer Scott Phillips - recently unveiled the song titles on their official website at http://www.alterbridge.com/ and also on their Myspace page at http://www.myspace.com/alterbridge. The full track listing is set to be:

1. Slip To The Void
2. Isolation
3. Ghost Of Days Gone By
4. All Hope Is Gone
5. Still Remains
6. Make It Right
7. Wonderful Life
8. I Know It Hurts
9. Show Me A Sign
10. Fallout
11. Breathe Again
12. Coeur D’Alene
13. Life Must Go On
14. Words Darker Than Their Wings


The band will hit the road as soon as the album hits the shelves. Alter Bridge kick off an extensive European tour in Glasgow on October 16. Including 8 UK shows, the jaunt will wrap up in Italy in December. Tickets are on sale and selling fast for the following UK dates:

Sat 16th Oct - GLASGOW O2 Academy SOLD OUT
Sun 17th Oct - NEWCASTLE O2 Academy
Tue 19th Oct - MANCHESTER Academy SOLD OUT
Wed 20th Oct - NOTTINGHAM Rock City
Fri 22nd Oct - LONDON Hammersmith HMV Apollo
Sat 23rd Oct - SOUTHAMPTON Guildhall
Mon 25th Oct - BIRMINGHAM O2 Academy
Tue 26th Oct - BRISTOL Colston Hall
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW ALBUM TITLE AND TRACKS)
Post by: Samsara on August 31, 2010, 09:29:25 AM
Bring it on!   :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW ALBUM TITLE AND TRACKS)
Post by: faemir on August 31, 2010, 09:41:25 AM
AB III?

 :|
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW ALBUM TITLE AND TRACKS)
Post by: bosk1 on August 31, 2010, 09:42:04 AM
faemir?

:|
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW ALBUM TITLE AND TRACKS)
Post by: Accelerando on August 31, 2010, 10:57:30 AM
PROMO PIC WITH ALBUM ART!!!!

(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l114/mtremonti571/AlterBridge-A2poster-INT-back-LR.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW LABEL AND "AB III" ALBUM ART)
Post by: Elsydeon on August 31, 2010, 11:06:54 AM
ABIII almost sounds like a work out video :D
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW ALBUM TITLE AND TRACKS)
Post by: faemir on August 31, 2010, 01:29:59 PM
faemir?

:|


why is your post count so low?
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW LABEL AND "AB III" ALBUM ART)
Post by: sneakyblueberry on August 31, 2010, 06:26:28 PM
Isolation up now

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdYLmzxMlxY
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW LABEL AND "AB III" ALBUM ART)
Post by: LCArenas on August 31, 2010, 06:58:18 PM
I got boosh'd by sneakyblueberry :lol
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW LABEL AND "AB III" ALBUM ART)
Post by: sneakyblueberry on August 31, 2010, 07:33:51 PM
:D
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW LABEL AND "AB III" ALBUM ART)
Post by: Accelerando on August 31, 2010, 08:00:59 PM
I got boosh'd by sneakyblueberry :lol

x2
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW LABEL AND "AB III" ALBUM ART)
Post by: kingshmegland on August 31, 2010, 08:05:38 PM
So I read your posts and I think to myself,  "What's boosh'd'

To answer the question......X3 :lol
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW LABEL AND "AB III" ALBUM ART)
Post by: Accelerando on September 01, 2010, 10:14:56 AM
Official UK Press Release


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Roadrunner Records are delighted to announce the release of American rock band ALTER BRIDGE’s third album, AB III, in October 2010. The acclaimed band, fronted by Myles Kennedy and also including Mark Tremonti, Brian Marshall and Scott Philips, will follow up the release with European dates between 16 October and 4 December.

“We’ve been wanting to pair up with Roadrunner for a while now,” says Tremonti. “We’ve always thought it would be the perfect home for us, especially with all the other acts on the Roadrunner roster, so we really wanted to make it happen.” He adds: “We’re real excited to get the record out. We lock ourselves into a room 24 hours a day when we’re doing a record, and we put everything we had into AB III. It’s been a whirlwind!”

Looking back at Alter Bridge’s brief but tumultuous career to date, you can’t help but agree with him. Formed in 2004 by Tremonti and Phillips after a cooling of their relationship with Creed singer Scott Stapp (Creed has since reconciled and reunited), the new band hooked up with then ex-Creed bassist Marshall and former Mayfield Four frontman Kennedy (who now also fronts Slash’s touring band) and recorded their debut album, One Day Remains. The album soon went gold in the USA and spawned three singles and, in addition, the now-classic WWE Superstar Edge’s theme, Metalingus.

Alter Bridge’s rise was swift, with Tremonti becoming a regular cover artist in guitar magazines due to his unearthly axemanship. A second album, Blackbird, was released in 2007 and also produced a slew of singles, among them Watch Over You, used to promote VH-1’s Celebrity Rehab With Dr. Drew. A world tour followed and helped to ram home the Alter Bridge message to hundreds of thousands of fans.

So what is that message? For the first two albums the theme seemed to be about new beginnings and the struggle to stay positive in the face of adversity. However, on this third album, Tremonti tells us that while all the Alter Bridge members share a common bond musically, their views on many subjects differ. “We all believe different things,” he says. “In fact, the overall theme of this record is Myles’ struggle with faith. He has trouble believing in anything spiritual, and he really puts that out there. Personally, I don’t believe in organized religion: I think it’s crazy to believe that people are going to burn in hell if they don’t go to the same church that you do.”

One of AB III’s many high points is the song Words Darker Than Their Wings, which refers to the very real dilemma faced by Kennedy when it comes to reconciling the tangible and spiritual worlds. “Myles once said that he didn’t believe in anything,” recalls Tremonti. “I said, ‘You’ve got to believe in something: even Albert Einstein came to believe that this universe was constructed too cleverly to be happenstance’. This turned into Words Darker Than Their Wings, and both Myles and I ended up singing two different vocal lines on it… that alone makes the song much different from anything we have ever done”

AB III is a record of stark contrasts. Produced by the renowned Michael “Elvis” Baskette, the album – whose tracklisting was revealed to the fans via Myspace on August 9 – offers a feast of listening experiences. “We went into the process of putting the record together with a lot of confidence,” Tremonti reveals, “but we didn’t go into it looking to be commercial, or to have radio singles. We just wanted this to be an album that pleased us artistically, through and through.”

“We are always writing,” he continues. “I have ideas that make it onto albums six years after I first wrote them! Most of AB III was written in the last two or three years, but there are some parts that have been around for much longer than that. The very first song, Slip To The Void, has one of my favorite vocal performances ever by Myles – the song is really creepy and lets the listener know the vibe of the record. It’s pretty dark. The intro really sucks you in…”

Darkness isn’t the album’s only emotion, of course – there’s plenty of aggression too. Take Isolation, for instance, which pays homage to classic heavy music. Tremonti: “That’s a more upbeat tune, with some real metal in there – in fact it has a speed metal bridge. It has a melodic chorus, though: melody is still the most important thing for us. There’s no point in being heavy just for the sake of being heavy.”

Producer Baskette, described by Tremonti as “like a fifth band-member”, enabled the band to encompass a whole world of emotion on this album, stretching from the philosophical (“Wonderful Life is about a man who’s losing his wife to a disease. The message is to live each day to the fullest, because you never know what’s going to happen”) to the heartfelt (“Coeur D’Alene is about a safe haven – your home away from home”). Oh, and there’s some hellacious metal darkness on there as well – from sources you might not expect. “My favorite song on the record – and the darkest – is Show Me A Sign”, explains Tremonti, adding with a chuckle: “I was into Celtic Frost and Venom when I was growing up: this isn’t a metal song, but it certainly contains a brooding darkness that is palpable!”

Put all this together and what do you have? A dynamic album that truly takes the listener on a complex and almost harrowing musical journey. You might think you had Alter Bridge all figured out with albums one and two. With AB III, Alter Bridge will shatter your expectations and take you on a ride you will not soon forget.

http://www.alterbridge.com


http://www.myspace.com/alterbridge
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW LABEL AND "AB III" ALBUM ART)
Post by: LCArenas on September 01, 2010, 04:07:31 PM
 :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW LABEL AND "AB III" ALBUM ART)
Post by: j on September 01, 2010, 06:13:02 PM
Looking forward to this.  Other two albums are both very good.

-J
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW LABEL AND "AB III" ALBUM ART)
Post by: sylvan on September 02, 2010, 08:31:02 AM
I love that cover so much.  I was interested to see how they would decide to lay it out, put "Alter Bridge" on there or just "AB".  I am extremely pleased.  I thought the newest Coheed cover was cool, but this is way cooler.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW LABEL AND "AB III" ALBUM ART)
Post by: Accelerando on September 02, 2010, 11:21:55 AM
Here's a high res pic of the album cover

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs417.snc4/48046_10150269020420192_551515191_14909294_2966714_n.jpg)

I hope it feels as it looks
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW LABEL AND "AB III" ALBUM ART)
Post by: Samsara on September 03, 2010, 09:24:00 AM
This band is starting to revive feelings that I had for a band when I discovered Queensryche back in 1987. Seriously. I've become a hardcore over the past year with Alter Bridge.

If anyone knows where a Blu-Ray of Live in Amsterdam is available, please let me know. I have the DVD, but have not been able to score a Blu-Ray and I WANT it. :)

In regard to the new album -- Blackbird is one of my favorite albums, period. And just from how this is being described, dare I hope that they'd make a SECOND album that gets to that level. It sure sounds like it. Man. Deep lyrics, dark, killer music (from how it is described), dynamic and soulful musicianship. I can't wait.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW LABEL AND "AB III" ALBUM ART)
Post by: PixelDream on September 03, 2010, 11:16:39 AM
I hope they deepen the dark side of Blackbird on this album, and heighten the highs and energy of One Day Remains.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW LABEL AND "AB III" ALBUM ART)
Post by: Accelerando on September 06, 2010, 09:15:36 AM
BRAND NEW SONG!!!! ISOLATION!!!!! IT"S HERE!!! LISTEN TO IT!!!

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.co.uk/page/News?news_id=100106


This....just...fucking rocks!!!  :metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW SONG "Isolation")
Post by: LCArenas on September 06, 2010, 09:33:24 AM
I hope you are happy, Accelerando. I've cum buckets in front of my computer and now I have to clean them before someone gets home.


DAT BRIDGE MAN, DAT MOTHERFUCKING BRIDGE


:metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW SONG "Isolation")
Post by: Elsydeon on September 06, 2010, 01:18:06 PM
that is just.....so nice.   Im looking forward to this album
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW SONG "Isolation")
Post by: kingshmegland on September 06, 2010, 01:41:40 PM
Very good ass kicking first song to get us all pumped! :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW SONG "Isolation")
Post by: sylvan on September 06, 2010, 06:05:56 PM
I was speechless for a couple minutes after the song ended.  I was just absorbing it.  Love it.  Can't wait.  Now I have to make sure my brother doesn't kill it for me while he's learning to play it.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW SONG "Isolation")
Post by: Accelerando on September 06, 2010, 08:13:13 PM
This is a great song. The chorus is wonderful, and the riffs are so hard i felt it drop kicking me. This is just a taste of what ABIII will be, and it's a great appetizer....bring on the main course!!!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW SONG "Isolation")
Post by: Adami on September 06, 2010, 08:17:15 PM
I hope they didn't give us the heaviest song. I like the song plenty, but if the rest all sound like standard alterbridge, I'm gonna be upset.

Also, Tremonti should writes 1000 dark riffs per album. Not necessarily heavy either, his clean dark riffs are amazing. Much better than his standard bluesy rock riffs.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW SONG "Isolation")
Post by: yeshaberto on September 06, 2010, 08:21:18 PM
I like it...

Just now getting a chance to listen to their last album.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW SONG "Isolation")
Post by: PixelDream on September 07, 2010, 03:50:59 AM
Nice song, didn't get my mind blown. It just automatically started again, so I'm listening for the second time and I'm already twice as much into it. Didn't like the odd time signatures in the bridge the first time, probably because they caught me offguard. Cool stuff, new AB!! I'm freakin' pumped AND I'm seeing them live in a few months, including the new songs live!!!

Backing vox by Tremonti again in the chorus? Sounds great!

Add: Sweet lord, I've let this play for the fifth time already. I'm killing the song for myself before the album comes out. Whatever. The mix is great as usual, I love how steady the band is in the production of their music.

And Accelerando, thanks for the fast updates on this great band. Love your enthousiasm.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW SONG "Isolation")
Post by: sylvan on September 07, 2010, 07:24:40 AM
I hope they didn't give us the heaviest song. I like the song plenty, but if the rest all sound like standard alterbridge, I'm gonna be upset.

I thought about that too.  While the song is hella-heavy, it didn't seem dark, which is apparently one of the main themes/styles of the album.  I'm assuming that this is just a tease for those of us that wan't our faces shredded sooner rather than later.

"Check this riff, it's fuckin' tasty!"

Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW SONG "Isolation")
Post by: Samsara on September 07, 2010, 04:56:48 PM
Love the new song. Loved it so much, I went out and bought some import Alter Bridge goodies to tide me over.  :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW SONG "Isolation")
Post by: bosk1 on September 07, 2010, 06:03:11 PM
This band is starting to revive feelings that I had for a band when I discovered Queensryche back in 1987. Seriously. I've become a hardcore over the past year with Alter Bridge.

That's awesome.  I remember feeling like I was going through a total musical drought for awhile, and then a couple of years ago discovering Nightwish and having that feeling of being totally blown away and wanting to immerse myself in the music, and then going through that again with Neal Morse and then Redemption most recently.  Good times.  Glad you're feeling that with a band.

As for the new material, I'm digging the sound of the new track.  Unlike you, I'm not crazy about Myles' singing style.  But I do like the band's sound overall, and I'm really liking what I hear so far.  I just hope the lyrics don't go off the deep end.  I have to admit feeling a bit of trepidation after reading the description awhile back.  I mean, it may be fine, but if Myles is going to get preachy about his lack of faith and soapbox about how religion is dumb, it's not going to matter to me how tasty the guitar riffs are.  But I'm really hoping it's not as blatant as all that because, from the sound of it, this has the potential to be a really good album.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW SONG "Isolation")
Post by: sylvan on September 08, 2010, 07:18:50 AM
I hate to hijack an AB thread to talk about another band, but damn it I love "The Fullness of Time" songs from Redemption.  That being said, Bosk, do you recommend any other Redemption albums?

Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW SONG "Isolation")
Post by: bosk1 on September 08, 2010, 08:01:50 AM
Snowfall on Judgment Day, the most recent, is practically flawless.  It is the bacon of 2010 progressive metal albums. 

Now back to AB.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW SONG "Isolation")
Post by: Perpetual Change on September 08, 2010, 08:22:13 AM
While I do like the new song, I can't say yet that I'm thrilled to pieces over it yet, though it definitely is good.  I'm sure it will grow on me after repeated listens, as it already has. The whole "doing Creed" thing has taken a little bit of a toll on my respect for the Alter Bridge guys, but despite that I can't see myself NOT picking this up when it comes out.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW SONG "Isolation")
Post by: PixelDream on September 08, 2010, 09:45:40 AM
I'll pick it up, definately. The song has some very good sections, but I'm not that convinced about the chorus. Don't know why, feels like I've heard that kind of thing so many times by AB. Maybe I was expecting something more abstract from them. Nonetheless, good track, and possibly a very good album.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW SONG "Isolation")
Post by: zxlkho on September 08, 2010, 09:48:43 AM
That song kicks so much ass it's not even funny.

EDIT: After about 5 more listens, it just keeps getting better...
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW SONG "Isolation")
Post by: Accelerando on September 08, 2010, 11:25:34 AM

Mark Tremonti is very big on melodies. He said that the melody is one of the most important components of a song, and that there’s no point in being heavy just for the sake of being heavy. I think some of the greatest guitar players imo write great melodies....even the likes of Petrucci who writes complex songs, his songs have those melodic elements.  As someone who listens to Alter Bridge religiously, this is a much different chorus that they've done, and it works well with the song. I've been getting my good share of Isolation.... not too much, cuz i want AB III to kick my ass all the way through come October. I have no doubt this will be a very good, if not, great album.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW SONG "Isolation")
Post by: sylvan on September 08, 2010, 11:37:11 AM

Mark Tremonti is very big on melodies. He said that the melody is one of the most important components of a song, and that there’s no point in being heavy just for the sake of being heavy. I think some of the greatest guitar players imo write great melodies....even the likes of Petrucci who writes complex songs, his songs have those melodic elements.  As someone who listens to Alter Bridge religiously, this is a much different chorus that they've done, and it works well with the song. I've been getting my good share of Isolation.... not too much, cuz i want AB III to kick my ass all the way through come October. I have no doubt this will be a very good, if not, great album.

I've listened too it 3 times I think.  I'm really having to force myself not to listen to it more.  I got the e-card songs before Blackbird came out and had them on my ipod for weeks.  I still can't listen to those without thinking about that, and they just feel different from the rest.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW SONG "Isolation")
Post by: Accelerando on September 09, 2010, 12:23:37 PM
Ok, so i don't know what the deal is, but apparently Isolation, so far, is just the UK single release. Being that AB is still looking for a US label (i dunno why it's not Roadrunner....), it's unclear if Isolation will be the US single. I hope it is. But then again, if it isn't, that means we'll get a new Alter bridge song soon  :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW SONG "Isolation")
Post by: Elsydeon on September 09, 2010, 12:38:59 PM
That's weird I could have sworn I saw that they signed up with roadrunner somewhere...
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW SONG "Isolation")
Post by: Accelerando on September 09, 2010, 01:02:20 PM
That's weird I could have sworn I saw that they signed up with roadrunner somewhere...
They signed with Roadrunner UK for everything outside the US
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW SONG "Isolation")
Post by: RuRoRul on September 09, 2010, 03:23:28 PM
Alter Bridge are my favourite band, Dream Theater probably second.

New song is pretty good and is a good sign for the album. Can't wait for a higher quality version of Isolation, and the album itself.

I think Isolation wasn't quite as heavy as advertised. Not saying that as a bad thing, just an observation. It was hardly "heavier than White Knuckles".

Love the chorus and guitar leads.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW SONG "Isolation")
Post by: sylvan on September 09, 2010, 03:59:50 PM
That's weird I could have sworn I saw that they signed up with roadrunner somewhere...
They signed with Roadrunner UK for everything outside the US

I think Mark said EMI for US possibly?
Title: Check this shit out lunchbox!
Post by: sylvan on September 16, 2010, 01:19:32 PM
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.co.uk/
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW SONG "Isolation")
Post by: OsMosis2259 on September 16, 2010, 02:25:19 PM
damn this song is pretty sick! Loving the dark heavy riffs :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW SONG "Isolation")
Post by: Adami on September 16, 2010, 02:30:06 PM
damn this song is pretty sick! Loving the dark heavy riffs :metal

I'm not hearing anything very dark. It's pretty standard energy focused metal. The chorus is even almost upbeat.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW SONG "Isolation")
Post by: OsMosis2259 on September 16, 2010, 05:10:22 PM
damn this song is pretty sick! Loving the dark heavy riffs :metal

I'm not hearing anything very dark. It's pretty standard energy focused metal. The chorus is even almost upbeat.

I guess instead of dark, I should have said the riffs are all "in your face" type a thing.  I'm loving it.

There is gonna be a new track on Friday available for download.
Title: Re: Check this shit out lunchbox!
Post by: sylvan on September 17, 2010, 07:38:07 AM
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.co.uk/

I realize now that my post simply looks like a link to the roadrunner homepage.  What I was linking to was the huge countdown clock they have on their mainpage.  Mad props to roadrunner for making me even more psyched than normal.
Title: Re: Check this shit out lunchbox!
Post by: wolfking on September 17, 2010, 07:46:56 AM
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.co.uk/

I realize now that my post simply looks like a link to the roadrunner homepage.  What I was linking to was the huge countdown clock they have on their mainpage.  Mad props to roadrunner for making me even more psyched than normal.

There's no fucking link to the free song!!
Title: Re: Check this shit out lunchbox!
Post by: sylvan on September 17, 2010, 08:18:06 AM
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.co.uk/

I realize now that my post simply looks like a link to the roadrunner homepage.  What I was linking to was the huge countdown clock they have on their mainpage.  Mad props to roadrunner for making me even more psyched than normal.

There's no fucking link to the free song!!
I guess it's not available to download until 4 p.m. UK time, which is 11 a.m. Eastern.  Apparently the countdown is messed up depending on what time zone you're in, mine shows that it won't be available until noon eastern time.
Title: Re: Check this shit out lunchbox!
Post by: wolfking on September 17, 2010, 08:22:14 AM
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.co.uk/

I realize now that my post simply looks like a link to the roadrunner homepage.  What I was linking to was the huge countdown clock they have on their mainpage.  Mad props to roadrunner for making me even more psyched than normal.

There's no fucking link to the free song!!
I guess it's not available to download until 4 p.m. UK time, which is 11 a.m. Eastern.  Apparently the countdown is messed up depending on what time zone you're in, mine shows that it won't be available until noon eastern time.

Oh.  It's 12:22am Saturday morning where I am.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW SONG "Isolation")
Post by: sylvan on September 17, 2010, 09:06:51 AM
The song is currently available for download.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.co.uk/
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW SONG "Isolation")
Post by: wolfking on September 17, 2010, 09:23:16 AM
Not bad, a good closer, and an epic vocal duet!!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (UPDATED WITH NEW SONG "Isolation")
Post by: Accelerando on September 17, 2010, 05:51:16 PM
Wow, this is such a cool song. I'm definitely digging the dueling vocals with Myles and Mark. Mark isn't a bad singer himself! He could very well sing in his pending solo project. This is something different that Alter Bridge has ever done, musically wise. It's just making me more and more excited for this record.

BTW, how about that high note Myles gives at 4:52  :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (DOWNLOAD NEW SONG "Words Darker...." Free)
Post by: Accelerando on September 17, 2010, 06:05:20 PM
Here's the lyrics, or rather, what my ear heard

They say you are right
I hope that I'm wrong
I know that you tried
But still it is gone

Just don't you lose hope
I swear I've never dreamed that we're alone.
Now don't you let go
I swear I still believe though I don't know.

Remember the years
I still walked tall
I only fear
Now I only crawl

How could I be wrong?
I hope there comes a day your fear is gone
How could we be lost?
Lost just cease to be not carry on

Into the light may you fall
Into the light may you follow
Into the light may you know
Truth alone

Into the light may you fall
Into the light may you follow
Into the light may you know
Truth alone
Truth alone

You can love someone

Go never to ask why
Or to fear again
Go find your peace tonight
Go set out towards the sun
Let the new begin
Go soon your day will come.
Day will come

Into the light may you fall
Into the light may you follow
Into the light may you know
Truth alone

Into the light may you fall
Into the light may you follow
Into the light may you know
Truth alone
Truth alone

Truth alone
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (DOWNLOAD NEW SONG "Words Darker...." Free)
Post by: Adami on September 17, 2010, 06:38:06 PM
Cool songs, but they kinda sound like standard alterbridge. I was hoping they'd break away from their standard formats and the "tremonti" chorus as I call it. But it seems they're sticking to it, at least on these two songs.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (DOWNLOAD NEW SONG "Words Darker...." Free)
Post by: Accelerando on September 17, 2010, 06:44:47 PM
I still don't understand your complaints about the choruses. You've said in the past that they all sounded the same.... i listen to these guys religiously, and i have to disagree. I'm genuinely curious on your "standard Alter Bridge" statement.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (DOWNLOAD NEW SONG "Words Darker...." Free)
Post by: Adami on September 17, 2010, 07:05:14 PM
I don't mean the vocals, but the guitar, bass, drums.....a lot of their chorus's and that applies to creed too, sound VERY similar. VERY VERY similar actually. Identicaly rhythms most of the time/
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (DOWNLOAD NEW SONG "Words Darker...." Free)
Post by: PixelDream on September 17, 2010, 07:06:43 PM
He always used some chord change with a slash chord in it, like A/C#. Gives a very distinct, full sound which I do like. But indeed, it's getting very familiar. 'Words Darker Than Their Wings' is a very good song though, nonetheless.

By the way, the vocals are kinda mixed background. Myles' singing in the beginning of the song sounds a bit thin. Compare it to the beginning of, say, 'Burn it Down'. That sounds way better.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (DOWNLOAD NEW SONG "Words Darker...." Free)
Post by: Accelerando on September 19, 2010, 09:25:55 PM
So i got U.S. radio release date for Isolation and Record Label details for ya

Isolation will be released on the radio Oct. 25 on Alter Bridge Records/Capitol

http://fmqb.com/Article.asp?id=16697

So they are doing what Dream Theater should have done a long time ago.... produce their own record having someone else distribute it.

I really wish the US label was Roadrunner though....
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: LCArenas on September 20, 2010, 03:55:02 PM
Listening to WDtTW again. It's awesome, even if it sounds a lot like Blackbird (the song)
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread (DOWNLOAD NEW SONG "Words Darker...." Free)
Post by: Samsara on September 21, 2010, 10:18:42 AM
So i got U.S. radio release date for Isolation and Record Label details for ya

Isolation will be released on the radio Oct. 25 on Alter Bridge Records/Capitol

http://fmqb.com/Article.asp?id=16697

So they are doing what Dream Theater should have done a long time ago.... produce their own record having someone else distribute it.

I really wish the US label was Roadrunner though....

Interesting. So they are doing a distribution deal with Capitol. Not a bad idea. This way, they keep the rights to their record in the U.S., without worrying about the whole ownership issue which plagued them on both ODR and Blackbird. Good move.

But no album release date in the U.S. yet I see. I ordered my copy from HMV, so I'll get the UK edition to start.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on September 24, 2010, 10:48:47 PM
Ah, this makes the wait for the US release all the more better  :metal

Quote
Hello Alter Bridge Nation,

I have been told by management that the USA version of AB III will contain two of the bonus tracks, Hope and Zero. My understanding is that they will be on all the albums no matter where you buy it. I should have more info soon.

Both of those songs just made a dark album even darker but they are both awesome tunes so I am glad the USA fans will get to hear these.

I think For What May Never Come will be on the Japanese version.

-Michael Tremonti
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Scard on September 25, 2010, 12:41:41 AM
I'm prettttttttty excited for this.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on September 27, 2010, 03:52:17 PM
Ok. Official release dates and record labels

Australia - 8th October
Europe - 11th October
U.S. - 9th November

Label for EU release: Roadrunner Records
Label for US release: EMI Records
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: wolfking on September 27, 2010, 05:22:05 PM
Australia - 8th October

 :metal :metal :metal :tup
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Scard on September 27, 2010, 06:07:52 PM
Boo on the late North American date.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: DarkEternalNight on September 27, 2010, 06:20:37 PM
I found out that Alter Bridge was in my small city playing a concert over the Summer. I wish I went :(
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Adami on September 27, 2010, 08:39:19 PM
I heard that since Myles is singing with slash, that he quit AB and is being replaced by Scott Stap. They plan on changing their name, but they aren't quite sure what to change it to.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on September 30, 2010, 10:29:27 PM
ZOMG Adami, noooooooooo


besides, here are 30 sec clips of each song off the album!  :metal

http://www.cede.ch/de/music-cd/frames/right.cfm?aobj=850201
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Adami on September 30, 2010, 10:42:07 PM
That wonderful life song sounds really promising. Tons of really cool riffs I'm hearing there, but jesus cock I'm getting bored of the tremonti chorus.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: wolfking on October 01, 2010, 05:27:35 AM
I heard that since Myles is singing with slash, that he quit AB and is being replaced by Scott Stap. They plan on changing their name, but they aren't quite sure what to change it to.






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Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: sylvan on October 01, 2010, 07:19:13 AM
The full album is streaming for residents of Germany, Austria, and Switzerland.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.de/page/webwheel+AlterBridge

If anyone can make a high quality rip, please let me know. 
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: RuRoRul on October 01, 2010, 10:10:51 AM
I'm listening just now, only heard Slip To The Void and Ghosts Of Days Gone By so far though, it takes a while for each one to load.

Slip To The Void was awesome though. One listen and I'd say it could be better than Isolation and Words Darker Than Their Wings. I could hardly believe it was Alter Bridge at the beginning.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on October 01, 2010, 01:40:56 PM
That wonderful life song sounds really promising. Tons of really cool riffs I'm hearing there, but jesus cock I'm getting bored of the tremonti chorus.


Eh, im still not jiving on your "Tremonti chorus" theory, Adami, but for me, the chorus isnt the most important part of the song, although it is part of the journey.


I'm listening just now, only heard Slip To The Void and Ghosts Of Days Gone By so far though, it takes a while for each one to load.

Slip To The Void was awesome though. One listen and I'd say it could be better than Isolation and Words Darker Than Their Wings. I could hardly believe it was Alter Bridge at the beginning.


You don't understand how jealous I am right now.






I notice some psychedelic influences from the previews. That little guitar and harmonizing part from "All Hope Is Gone" reminds me of Pink Floyd
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Adami on October 01, 2010, 01:48:49 PM
Don't get me wrong, I love the band. I have every creed and AB album and their respective DVD's. He's a major influence on my guitar playing as well. But when so many of your choruss' have almost identical rhythms, it gets a little hard to ignore. If you seriously can't hear the similarities between so many creed chorus's (guitar, bass and drums) and AB chorus's, then I dunno. Am I alone on this one?
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: sylvan on October 01, 2010, 02:21:12 PM
I did the some proxy magic and am saving the .mp3's as I type.  The excitement is building.  I hope I have enough paper towels for all the ear cum that's gonna get all over everything.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: RuRoRul on October 01, 2010, 04:47:02 PM
Yeah I have all the mp3s now from the Roadrunner stream.

I loved that bit of All Hope Is Gone in the previews too. It made me really look forward to the song. That bit is probably my favourite bit of the song, or at least the start of my favourite bit of the song, now I've managed to hear the whole thing.

And the choruses - there are some similarities in a lot of them. Not really badly or anything, but they share the same sound. For example if you listen to the 30 second previews, you might think a lot of the songs have similar sounds, when they really don't. That's just because a lot of them play the chorus, which are similar to each other. For example Slip To The Void - the song is very different, although you probably woudlnt think it just from listening to the previews, because the chorus alone does have a similar sound.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on October 01, 2010, 06:50:11 PM
Well, Tremonti does love having the full sound with melodic choruses. In that sense, yeah, i guess I understand what Adami is talking about. I guess when I hear someone talking about how an artist's song sounds the same as their other stuff, it's because of the arrangement. Bands like Nickelback, however, use the same arrangement every freakin song they dish out. Tremonti, for all of Alter Bridge and in Creed's newest album, diversified his arrangements so they don't sound the same because he was pissed sick and tired of writing the same rhythms that followed the lyrical structure in Weathered and the album they started to write before the decided to split. But yeah, with songs like "Open Your Eyes", "Rise Today", and "Before Tomorrow Comes", he writes that full sounding chorus that could potentially be considered cookie cutter by some music goers.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on October 01, 2010, 08:02:37 PM
Ah fuck, im so jealous of you Europeans right now getting to listen to this album early! Do you know how fucking long ive been waiting for this album?? omg omg omg just send me MP3 files







No no, dont. I can wait.






I fight this urge.... im can... im not addicted... the urge... i can-

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Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: wolfking on October 01, 2010, 08:40:17 PM
Don't get me wrong, I love the band. I have every creed and AB album and their respective DVD's. He's a major influence on my guitar playing as well. But when so many of your choruss' have almost identical rhythms, it gets a little hard to ignore. If you seriously can't hear the similarities between so many creed chorus's (guitar, bass and drums) and AB chorus's, then I dunno. Am I alone on this one?

I think Tremonti does a respectable job differentiating between the two bands sound wise, but I do agree with you to some extent.

They all have a similar chord structure, with Tremonti using the slash bass chords quite a bit or using riffs which use a pedal point note, and just the general melodies can be reminiscent too.

Things like Open Your Eyes remind me of Higher, Overcome reminds me of Find the Real and to a point Metalingus, Broken Wings reminds me of Arms Wide Open or My Sacrifice, Down to My Last has a Higher vibe also.  Ties That Bind remind me of Bullets.

They are certainly not the same, but there are 3 of the four members in AB from Creed, so saying that the two bands sound totally different is a bit of a stretch.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Perpetual Change on October 01, 2010, 08:46:44 PM
I love Alter Bridge, and was big on Creed back in the day, but I can't believe someone who listens to them so much wouldn't realize that there's a Tremonti chorus.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: yeshaberto on October 02, 2010, 12:22:21 AM
brand new start playing right now....such an awesome band
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: sylvan on October 02, 2010, 07:03:23 AM
You guys have to hear this album.  Start to finish it is absolutely incredible.  Taking into account that it's not technically a concept album, this might be the most incredible musical journey I've ever taken.  I am really looking forward to going running and getting some alone time with this album.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: wolfking on October 02, 2010, 07:20:25 AM
this might be the most incredible musical journey I've ever taken.

Are you sure you know what you're saying??
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Elsydeon on October 02, 2010, 05:17:29 PM
You guys have to hear this album.  Start to finish it is absolutely incredible.  Taking into account that it's not technically a concept album, this might be the most incredible musical journey I've ever taken.  I am really looking forward to going running and getting some alone time with this album.
He speaks the truth.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: PixelDream on October 02, 2010, 05:31:01 PM
I listened to a fair share of Creed back in the day, even though they were practically unknown over here (in Europe). Not obscure, but it's not like they ever had any real hits. Weird idea that they were so HUGE in the USA.

'My Own Prison' had some good songs, but it wasn't a killer record because the production. 'Human Clay' was more streamlined, but that was the album I heard first, and I still have good memories of it. While I liked some songs off of 'Weathered', I'd say that record is ultimately a completely forgettable affair. And I really can't listen to the autotuned pile of shizzl that is 'Full Circle'.

The only thing I liked about Creed were the good riffs (now and then), and the 'spiritual' vibe of it. Listening back to it now, it kinda feels a bit pretentious. Let alone that there is some real excitement in their music. Alter Bridge takes some of the better parts of Creed, but adds so much power and passion to it. And good songwriting, and FINALLY some rockin' guitar solos. Which is more than matched by Myles who is just amazing on vocals.

The only complaint I have about AB is that it's just formulaic, groovy, heavy rock. With awesome vocals, blazing solos and epic songs. But in this style, there's not much more you can ask for. AB is absolutely awesome at what they do.

I guess what I want to say is that Alter Bridge is so much better. God, so much. The new album is absolutely great, and I'm seeing them live next month =)!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: LCArenas on October 02, 2010, 05:31:25 PM
Gonna wait till October 8 so I can hear it while it's fresh. I might even hear it In Real Time ITT like I did with the LP's A Thousand Suns album.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: sylvan on October 02, 2010, 06:47:02 PM
This album is so far removed from Blackbird.  It's captivating.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: wolfking on October 03, 2010, 04:20:30 AM
I will wait til I purchase it next week to listen.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: PixelDream on October 03, 2010, 04:47:51 PM
Isolation has really grown on me, love the groovy verse riff and vocal melody. Chorus didn't seem that much upon first listen, but it's really nice actually. Still not digging the thrashy odd-time solo section though, but fortunately the bridge takes it up.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: axeman90210 on October 03, 2010, 08:41:38 PM
only listened to the album once so far, but Bill likey :tup
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Basekick on October 03, 2010, 11:37:57 PM
Just gave it my first listen, and I definitely liked what I heard, but no tracks blew me away like "Find The Real" or "Blackbird" unfortunately.  That doesn't go to say that this album is bad by any stretch though.  I was incredibly shocked to here how consistent Tremonti was in each of these songs to deliver a dark riff to introduce each song's bridge.  Not that I'm complaining, of course  ;D  Top tracks include:  Slip To The Void, Ghost Of Days Gone By (this one shocked me), Still Remains, Make It Right, and Words Darker Than Their Wings.  Solid album, and I'll be sure to give a complete review after a lot more listens.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: j on October 04, 2010, 12:00:04 AM
First impression is very good.  Immediate favorites are Slip to the Void, Coeur D'Alene (possibly my early favorite), and Words Darker Than Their Wings, but I really liked most of what I heard.

-J
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: PixelDream on October 04, 2010, 09:20:46 AM
There is indeed nothing remotely as epic as Blackbird's title track on this. Though 'Words' kinda delivers a similar feeling, and I certainly like it.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: sylvan on October 04, 2010, 09:45:05 AM
The epic factor that the title track had on "Blackbird" is not matched in any single song on this album, but is far surpassed by the album as a whole.  I'm truly believing that Myles is the most talented person in music.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: RuRoRul on October 04, 2010, 09:59:13 AM
I wasn't expecting anything close to Blackbird (song), especially since the band themselves said there wasn't a song on this album that tried to top it in epicness.

But the album as a whole is epic, probably more of an album than Blackbird or One Day Remains. It's easy to say that "the album feels like listening to a concept album", but in AB III's case it's actually true. They weren't lying when it said it mainly dealt with the same theme.

The album plays a bit like the "conversation" part of Words Darker Than Their Wings, but across the whole album. Still Remains, I Know It Hurts, Fallout and a few others are quite clearly like a response to the feelings in songs like Slip To The Void, Isolation, Ghosts, All Hope Is Gone and Show Me A Sign. Those songs I mentioned have some lyrcal allusions to each other.

My favourite is still Slip To The Void, I think it'll stand as the best song on the album for me. I feel it could have been a bit longer since it's got so many ideas in it, but the fact that it changes so much is part of what makes it good.

Show Me A Sign wasn't immediately a favourite but it grw on me, it's probably my second favourite right now. It, Slip To The Void and Words Darker Than Their Wings are the only ones that come close to the epic feel of Blackbird.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on October 04, 2010, 12:22:25 PM
I was determined not to listen to any of the songs until the album is released in the States, buttttt i was just informed from a good friend of mine in Ireland that when he comes over to visit my friends and I, that he will have copy of the album to give to me  :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)


I like what I'm reading about AB III. I have not read one bad thing about the album yet. And yeah, people on the AlterBridgeNation forums (formally Alterbridgeband.net), are saying it's a concept album because it is played like a conversation, as RuRoRul mentioned. Im a fucking stoked, and i can't wait to hear the favorites from you guys, like "Slip To The Void" and "Ghosts of Days Gone By."

So how is the pirate song, "All Hope Is Gone"? I'm really curious to see how they integrated pirate-like music into the song. They've always managed to have some sort of classical music overlay in at least one of their songs on each album so far ( The End Is Here on ODR and Wayward One on Blackbird)
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: zxlkho on October 04, 2010, 12:43:16 PM
Listening to the album now. :hat

I won't spoil anything for you other than it's fucking awesome so far. :2metal:
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: sylvan on October 04, 2010, 02:12:27 PM
So how is the pirate song, "All Hope Is Gone"? I'm really curious to see how they integrated pirate-like music into the song. They've always managed to have some sort of classical music overlay in at least one of their songs on each album so far ( The End Is Here on ODR and Wayward One on Blackbird)

I never heard that before, but you can hear it.  The main riff that starts gives a slight feel, but then Myles comes in with a lyrical structure that is very reminiscent of some old pirate sea shanties (sp?).  

I feel like I need to express how awesome the album both begins and ends.  The three songs that start (Slip To The Void, Isolation, Ghosts of Days Gone By) and finish (Coeur D'Alene, Life Must Go On, Words Darker Than Their Wings) the album are so absolutely amazing and are easily the songs that stand out the most to me.

Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: LCArenas on October 04, 2010, 06:16:05 PM
Today someone sent me "Slip to the Void" and I couldn't resist listening to it. I opened and listened to it anxiously and...















Fuck yeah.


Fuck Yeah.


FUCK YEAH.


FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!! :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal



I cannot wait till 8! HOLY SHIT I AM EXCITE :caffeine:
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on October 04, 2010, 09:07:51 PM
So how is the pirate song, "All Hope Is Gone"? I'm really curious to see how they integrated pirate-like music into the song. They've always managed to have some sort of classical music overlay in at least one of their songs on each album so far ( The End Is Here on ODR and Wayward One on Blackbird)

I never heard that before, but you can hear it.  The main riff that starts gives a slight feel, but then Myles comes in with a lyrical structure that is very reminiscent of some old pirate sea shanties (sp?).  

I feel like I need to express how awesome the album both begins and ends.  The three songs that start (Slip To The Void, Isolation, Ghosts of Days Gone By) and finish (Coeur D'Alene, Life Must Go On, Words Darker Than Their Wings) the album are so absolutely amazing and are easily the songs that stand out the most to me.



Good to hear! ODR had great opening and closing songs.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: PixelDream on October 05, 2010, 12:44:46 PM
OK so every song on this record has something that makes it at least worth listening to. They all have something 'unique'.

However, the choruses are pretty similar, which can make it a drag to listen to the album all the way through. Some songs are a bit different than usual, but especially mid album there are a few 'standard' AB songs. Nothing wrong with that, I kinda see them as excellent filler material.

My favorites (not ranked - and minor spoilers)





Show Me A Sign (Epic, not Blackbird epic but that's okay!)
Words Darker Than Their Wings (Most similar to the song Blackbird I think. Great stuff)
Slip To The Void (Really special track, I love this)
I Know it Hurts (excellent pace throughout, AWESOME guitar solo with acoustic guitar bursts behind it, GREAT)
Ghost of Days Gone By (This is excellent stuff, like the 'Brand New Start' of this record, but just a bit darker yet lighter.. it's weird)

As for the rest, there is tons of cool stuff on this record. It's just that some songs sound fresh (like Ties That Bind on Blackbird), and others more familiar AB style (like Before Tomorrow Comes on BB). Nothing shocking about the record, just some seriously, well excecuted hard rock/metal.


Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Basekick on October 06, 2010, 12:48:51 AM
While I'm still in the process of fully digesting this album (it keeps getting better  ;D  ;D), I did come across across this for those who still haven't gotten the opportunity to listen to it yet:

http://www.alterbridge.com/html/2010/10/05/the-alter-bridge-news-you-have-been-waiting-for/

They will be streaming the entire album on the site tomorrow.   :tup
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: axeman90210 on October 06, 2010, 08:03:23 AM
after spending some more time with it I can safely say that while I feel like it doesn't really break any new ground for them, I really like the new album :tup
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on October 06, 2010, 10:10:08 AM
OK I COULDNT RESIST!!! I am listening to the live stream on NME.com right now. I just got through Slip To The Void. Holy fuck. That song melted my face off. The opening synth....with Myles... God that voice of his.... I love the bridge. A total throwback to seventies with heavy metal flare. Only one listen, and it's climbing my charts as one of my favorite Alter Bridge song.

Ok.... I will get back to my thoughts once I have completed the journey that is AB III. But already it's  :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on October 06, 2010, 01:58:39 PM
Just got my first run through listen of the album. I'll post my own review later on after a couple more listens, but I'm definitely NOT disappointed. A lot of new ideas and directions this band can venture to on later works. I definitely see where this is more of a concept album than the other releases, and on my review ill pinpoint lyrics to explain how it is.

AB III is def a contender for album of the year. It's Alter Bridge at their best imo. I can't wait to listen to this album more!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: LCArenas on October 06, 2010, 02:50:27 PM
SPOILER ALERT




I Couldn't resist and now I'll listen to the album In Real Time in the NME streaming. Will be updating this post (Like if anyone cares anyway)


Slip to the Void: This song is amazing. It's just what Alter Bridge is. Amazing chorus, man, even more amazing lyrics. Really, you don't see lyrics like this one on Mainstream Rock in these days. DEM SOLOS SO FULL OF AWESOME! It's exactly what I would look for in an opener. Amazing. Just amazing.
Isolation: This song hasn't grown very much on me, tbh. It was awesome when I first heard it but now... It's good, but not mind-blowing. Maybe it's because the Chorus is pretty meh IMO. The Bridge is incredible, tho.
Ghost of Days Gone By: Didn't expect a ballad so early. The verses might be a little cliché, but then again, the chorus is incredible. So powerful (TECHNICAL! :lol ).


Wait.


YEAH! YEAH! OH MY GOD MY EARS JUST CAME OH MY GOD. The heavy part is amazing, just comes out of nowhere, builds your ears up and then... THE MINI-SOLO. HOLY SHIT. YES. THIS PLEASES ME A LOT. YES!!!!! DAT CHORUS! SHIT! FUCK YEAH!!!!!!! THEN HEAVY AGAIN. I love this song. Verses might be a little cliché, but This song is amazing.
All Hope is Gone: Well I really hope it's better than Slipknot. I had to say it. The intro is great, reminds me of One Day Remains. The Chorus is... OK, I guess. The song is good, but not as good as its predecessors. Mark's guitar really stands out in this one as well as a really dark vibe throughout the song. It's far better than the slipknot one :lol
Still Remains: THE DAMAGE DONE! :metal This was my first thought when I heard the intro. DAT RIFF! This song is awesome already. Myles kicks in with some aggressive shit. I love the rhythm of this song. This is not any post-grunge shit, let me tell ya. Liked this song a lot. A LOT. DAT RIFF. DAT RIFF!!!!! Dark Lyrics and heavy guitars all the fucking way. It has a troubled and dark atmosphere overall... It's really good. Really.
Make it Right: Gosh this album has some incredible intros. The Chorus is pretty mediocre, surprisingly, but the verses, the solo (Show 'em, Mark) and the bridge are some good stuff. This one has an uplifting and more animated sound.
Wonderful Life: Another ballad, and this song would be generic as hell if it wasn't because of MYLES "I'LL MOTHERFUCKING SHOW YOU ABOUT SINGING" KENNEDY. He drives the song all to the road to epic. Lyrics are... Well, OK. But this song is one of his best performances in the album so far.
I Know it Hurts: The riff is OK, I guess. The lyrics are pretty repetitive. Yeah, carry on, you're lost but you'll be OK, Don't Stop Dancing, yeah. The music itself it's pretty good., I'm OK with it. I don't think the song is bad, tbh, and maybe I'll need the lyrics later :P
Show me a Sign: The verses are really good. The intro is nothing new tbh, but the verses are pretty good. The Chorus shows that Alter Bridge has already a predetermined chorus style. It can be really epic, like in "Rise Today", "Brand New Start", "Find the Real" and "Slip to the Void", but in songs like this it gets somewhat stale and repetitive. The lyrics are really good, tho. Also Mark shines again. YEAH!
Fallout: NUGGETZ! I like the way this song starts. It brings something new to the album overall. Then again, the Chorus style repeats, but it actually comes out to fit pretty good. I like this song a lot, it's really good. It's pure energy. If only the chorus was a little better... But I can't complain. Good song.
Breathe Again: Another ballad! Well this one ain't bad either. Really good guitar chords here. The Chorus is meh, but it's another uplifting song in the midst of turbulent and dark song streaks. I'm OK with this song and the bridge-solo is pretty awesome.
Coeur D'Alene: YES. AGAIN. MY EARS ARE COMING AGAIN. YES!!!!! AWESOME VERSES. INCREDIBLE! Amazing chorus, amazing. Simple, yet incredible. Definitely one of the best songs on the album.
Life Must Go On: EPIC. EPIC! The beginning is Creed-ish, but with more epicness. Yes, another "You'll Carry On, come on, lift yourself up" song, but this time it works amazingly. The harmony between all the band members is amazing. Fuck, if this song had been the only ballad in the album I wouldn't mind (Well, I'd mind Ghosts of Days Gone By tbh). FUCK YEAH. I might even say this song made my day. Incredible.
Words Darker than their Wings: Amazing closer. It just comes in when it has to be needed. It sums the album up and merges it in an amazing song. Myles and Mark are both amazing singers in this song. Yet another "Carry On" song, but fuck it. It's really great. It manages to be dark yet mellow at the same time.


Overall and as the tl;dr of this review:
after spending some more time with it I can safely say that while I feel like it doesn't really break any new ground for them, I really like the new album :tup

This.  They didn't exactly venture too far outside their "box", but this is a good album and I'm enjoying it.  Opens and closes very strong, with a few weaker tracks in the middle.

-J
Those. I miss an epic song like Blackbird (Which may be their best song to date, maybe), but the album overall is OK (However they've got to be careful if they don't want their sound to become monotonous in their next releases). Amazing opener and closer, and the first and last three tracks are incredible (Except for Isolation :P) and are the best them of the album, along with Still Remains and Fallout. It's still far from my favorite 2010 album so far (Anathema's We're Here Because We're Here) But it's a pretty good album. Might be listening a lot to it these days. Alter Bridge STILL ROCKS :metal .
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: j on October 06, 2010, 03:16:01 PM
after spending some more time with it I can safely say that while I feel like it doesn't really break any new ground for them, I really like the new album :tup

This.  They didn't exactly venture too far outside their "box", but this is a good album and I'm enjoying it.  Opens and closes very strong, with a few weaker tracks in the middle.

-J
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Basekick on October 06, 2010, 04:14:03 PM
Sorry if I spoil anything but seriously, the one moment that gives me shivers down my spine:


I DON'T WANNA DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: sylvan on October 06, 2010, 04:20:24 PM
Sorry if I spoil anything but seriously, the one moment that gives me shivers down my spine:


I DON'T WANNA DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE



THE MOMENT YOU LET LOVE GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: yeshaberto on October 06, 2010, 04:43:09 PM
really looking forward to picking this up
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Elsydeon on October 06, 2010, 05:44:18 PM
Sorry if I spoil anything but seriously, the one moment that gives me shivers down my spine:


I DON'T WANNA DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
This could be the last time you see me alive?
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on October 07, 2010, 10:58:21 AM
My goodness, this album is fantastic. I also cannot wait to pick this up and blast it in my car. I'm digesting what I've been hearing so i won't post my thoughts yet.

Slip To The Void is in my top 5 AB songs  :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: LCArenas on October 07, 2010, 12:58:10 PM
GHOST OF DAYS GONE BY IS AWESOME
That is all. You can go back to whatever you were doing.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: wolfking on October 10, 2010, 04:08:05 AM
Purchased it today.

Listening right now for the first time.  I really am not gonna make a judgment as it's an album that definitely needs time to grow.  It sounds like standard Alter Bridge with the same chords and chorus'  I don't hear anything really new.  There are some great riffs and chorus' though.  I think they probably could have cut out a couple of songs.

Favs on first listen; Slip To the Void, Isolation, Make it Right, I Know it Hurts, Fallout and the last track is pretty good. 

Needs lots more listen, but really didn't blow my head off on first listen.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: faemir on October 10, 2010, 04:31:15 AM
New album isn't doing anything for me, I need to listen to it more.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on October 20, 2010, 06:54:09 PM
The boys started their European tour over the weekend, starting is Glasgow! So far, nothing but GREAT things about their shows. These professional pics were post in the forums.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/gemma-louise-harris/sets/72157625206366352/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/40292484@N04/

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Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on October 21, 2010, 01:43:14 AM
Vids have been poppin up of them playing new material live!!!

Ghosts of Days Gone By
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp8EOpV-mQE

Isolation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2KorolJccE

Wonderful Life (ACOUSTIC!!!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCgC6lhXSoY

All Hope Is Gone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyZD4yW5vyo
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on October 21, 2010, 10:45:02 AM
VERY cool. I have had the album for awhile now (like most of you) and dig it. My hardcopy will be the U.S. version on Nov. 9.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on October 21, 2010, 11:21:42 AM
Here is another positive review of AB III, this one from The Breakdown Room:

http://www.breakdownroom.net/alterbridge-ab3.html
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: sylvan on October 21, 2010, 11:33:16 AM
They're starting to announce US dates for after the Euro tour.  They play St. Louis on Dec. 13.  I feel confident that they will play Orlando at some point being their base of operation.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: RuRoRul on October 21, 2010, 12:08:34 PM
I was at the Glasgow show, they opened with I Know It Hurts which was a bit of a surprise. Every show since then has opened with Slip To The Void, but personally I thought Slip To The Void was better nearer the end - the buildup was still just as good and wasn't ruined by people cheering as soon as Mark Tremonti etc. came out.

Also saw setlists after Glasgow had One Day Remains on them, which is a shame since I love that song. On the other hand I think we're the only ones to get Show Me A Sign so far, which was very good live, and has grown on me a lot. One of the best songs from the new album.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: yeshaberto on October 21, 2010, 01:17:30 PM
almost finished with the first spin...about as good as I expected, which is good
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: zxlkho on October 21, 2010, 01:49:54 PM
Listening to this album for about the third time now. It's really awesome.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: PixelDream on October 21, 2010, 07:16:40 PM
Wow, Myles sounds excellent. Better than I've ever heard him live, and that includes the Slash tour and 'Live in Amsterdam'. I'm seeing them in the Heineken Music Hall next month, which is the venue where the DVD was recorded. Really hoping to hear Blackbird, I just have to witness that live.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: lordxizor on October 22, 2010, 06:42:52 AM
Listened to the new album a few times. My first impressions are that it's good, but it's lacking the two or three amazing tracks that the first two albums had. Maybe some more listens will help something stand out.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: sylvan on October 22, 2010, 07:15:30 AM
Listened to the new album a few times. My first impressions are that it's good, but it's lacking the two or three amazing tracks that the first two albums had. Maybe some more listens will help something stand out.

You can count on it.  I had similar feelings at one point, but after some quality time with the album, I feel there are some amazing songs.

I Know It Hurts has grown the most on me after listening for a while.  The chorus is kinda meh, but the verse is way cool feel and Mark plays quite possibly one of his best solos on any of the records.

Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on October 22, 2010, 02:59:47 PM
Listened to the new album a few times. My first impressions are that it's good, but it's lacking the two or three amazing tracks that the first two albums had. Maybe some more listens will help something stand out.

 :omg:

Ghost of Days Gone By
Show Me A Sign
All Hope Is Gone
Slip To The Void


Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on October 22, 2010, 03:00:45 PM
I would like to note that they are playing the Hammersmith tonight in London... same place Bowie retired Ziggy Stardust
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on October 25, 2010, 01:42:29 AM
From Dan Catullo, the director of Live From Amsterdam :)

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The "secret" project I have been working on with Avi and Jonathan for AB. Many more to come....


http://www.youtube.com/v/kWMoXx9qhso?fs=1&hl=en_US
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Jakartabassplayer on October 29, 2010, 10:09:41 AM
I'm trying to get into this band.
Where should I start?
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: RuRoRul on October 29, 2010, 11:56:04 AM
Only 3 albums, and none are really "those ones in the discography that aren't good".

Probably the album Blackbird. It's their best one in my opinion, and you'll get a pretty good idea of their style from it.

One Day Remains if you want to start at the beginning.
AB III if you want to check out their most recent first.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: faemir on October 29, 2010, 12:53:04 PM
Yeah Blackbird
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: sylvan on October 29, 2010, 01:38:44 PM
Only 3 albums, and none are really "those ones in the discography that aren't good".

Probably the album Blackbird. It's their best one in my opinion, and you'll get a pretty good idea of their style from it.

One Day Remains if you want to start at the beginning.
AB III if you want to check out their most recent first.

I always loved the thought of a newb listening to Alter Bridge for the first time turning on One Day Remains and hearing "Find The Real" as their first experience with AB.  Followed by the title track!  My point is this:  If you love kick ass rock music, you should love Alter Bridge.  That being said, take it all in from the beginning.  Hear the musical evolution.  Then you can ask yourself, "Why is this band not the biggest thing in rock music?"
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Jakartabassplayer on October 29, 2010, 04:11:17 PM
Only 3 albums, and none are really "those ones in the discography that aren't good".

Probably the album Blackbird. It's their best one in my opinion, and you'll get a pretty good idea of their style from it.

One Day Remains if you want to start at the beginning.
AB III if you want to check out their most recent first.

I always loved the thought of a newb listening to Alter Bridge for the first time turning on One Day Remains and hearing "Find The Real" as their first experience with AB.  Followed by the title track!  My point is this:  If you love kick ass rock music, you should love Alter Bridge.  That being said, take it all in from the beginning.  Hear the musical evolution.  Then you can ask yourself, "Why is this band not the biggest thing in rock music?"
true.
I heard some Alter Bridge a few days ago and I didn't know which song it was but I thought it was awesome!!
So now I'm trying to get into them.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: faemir on October 29, 2010, 06:39:25 PM
You mean "The second biggest thing in rock music."

The biggest thing in rock music should be Thrice.

Just sayin' ;)
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Jakartabassplayer on October 30, 2010, 02:17:44 PM
After listening to Blackbird I've come to the conclusion that I've fallen in love with this band!!!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: LCArenas on October 30, 2010, 02:24:44 PM
Good. Good.



























Seriously, :tup
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Jakartabassplayer on October 30, 2010, 02:33:36 PM
My next step is to listen to One Day Remains and AB III
 :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: PixelDream on October 30, 2010, 09:16:23 PM
All ABIII does is solidify their status as a kick ass rock band. It sure as hell isn't better than Blackbird or ODR.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: j on October 30, 2010, 10:36:24 PM
All ABIII does is solidify their status as a kick ass rock band. It sure as hell isn't better than Blackbird or ODR.

I agree.  Only a few tracks have had staying power for me so far.  Still think it's a pretty solid album, but there's too little diversity overall and it seems a little bit formulaic.  Opens and closes VERY strong, drags in the middle.

I'm not sure whether I like ODR or Blackbird better though.  I kinda flip-flop on that.

-J
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on October 30, 2010, 10:54:38 PM
I don't one album is better than the other, and because they haven't made a bad album yet may justify my thought. I feel like each album has things that stand out from one another. AB III is just a deep, dark, personal piece of masterwork from these guys.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: LCArenas on October 30, 2010, 10:55:28 PM
I don't one album is better than the other
wat
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on October 30, 2010, 11:48:02 PM
I don't thinkone album is better than the other
wat

oy, better?
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Basekick on October 31, 2010, 12:00:30 AM
After the first few listens, I was most certainly in agreement with most of your opinions.  That is, the album was good, but it felt formulaic, and none of the songs stood out.

I thought wrong.

After some more listens these songs have most certainly stood out as some of Alter Bridge's best tunes:

Ghost Of Days Gone By
All Hope Is Gone
Still Remains
Make It Right
Coeur D'Alene
Words Darker Than Their Wings

Not to mention that most (that is, outside of Breathe Again and Life Must Go On) of the tracks left on the album are better than nearly any other band out there right now.  Seriously, those songs listed are fucking AWESOME  :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: RuRoRul on October 31, 2010, 07:16:59 AM
Can't believe you missed out my top... 5 from the album, actually, from that list :(

Slip To The Void
Show Me A Sign
I Know It Hurts
Fallout
Isolation

And Blackbird is definitely their best album so far, for me. My two favourite AB songs are Blackbird and Ties That Bind, so it's obviously likely to be my favourite album. I don't really think of it as AB III as being worse, as in the band is getting worse. The quality level's staying consistent, Blackbird just happens to be the better album. The same way I don't listen to Blackbird (song), then come onto One By One and think "This band is going downhill." The band's just as good, but one song just happens to be better than the other.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: faemir on October 31, 2010, 10:41:25 AM
Yeah, it feels like all three albums are consistently great and could have been written in the same time period - which is both a good and a bad thing.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Basekick on November 02, 2010, 10:25:52 PM
U.S TOUR DATES

December 9th in Pontiac, MI @ Clutch Cargos
December 10th in Grand Rapids, MI @ Orbit Room
December 11th in Chicago, IL @ House of Blues
December 13th in St. Louis, MO @ The Pageant
December 16th in Baltimore, MD @ Rams Head Live
December 17th in Sayreville, NJ @ Starland Ballroom
December 20th in New York, NY @ Gramercy Theatre

I'll be there.  Any one else wanna meet up?
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Adami on November 02, 2010, 10:27:31 PM
I'll see if I can go to the chicago one. Depends on how school's going.


I can't believe SO few DTFers live in chicago.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Jakartabassplayer on November 03, 2010, 08:53:13 AM
damn.
they're playing a show in Amsterdam and I cant go!
 ???
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: sylvan on November 03, 2010, 01:37:07 PM
Alter Bridge with Slash doing Rise Today Live!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqynAZ4aic0
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on November 03, 2010, 08:30:11 PM
Eh.

I mean, that's really cool that Slash got on stage for Alter Bridge and not vice versa. But i never like it when Slash played Rise Today during his solo tour. Plus that solo he did at the end was just...bad. Mark slays that solo with his eyes closed. I sure getting a chance to play on stage with Slash was exciting for Mark, though
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: sylvan on November 04, 2010, 07:12:08 AM
Eh.

I mean, that's really cool that Slash got on stage for Alter Bridge and not vice versa. But i never like it when Slash played Rise Today during his solo tour. Plus that solo he did at the end was just...bad. Mark slays that solo with his eyes closed. I sure getting a chance to play on stage with Slash was exciting for Mark, though

Yeah, I'm not super impressed by the performance, but whatever.  It was cool, it would have been even cooler in person, and judging by Mark's face during the song, he think's it's pretty damn cool too.

Slash w/ Myles and Ozzy are coming to town, but of course, tickets are damned expensive.  Would be kinda cool to hear Myles in an arena though.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: RuRoRul on November 04, 2010, 08:44:20 AM
It was a cool thing of Slash to do. Also I think it would have been a bit boring if they got Slash up just to do Mark's exact solo - I don't think anyone would expect or want that. It wasn't better than what the real solo is, it was pretty much what you could have expected from Slash though.

Anyway, I feel bad since the American version isn't out yet, but people have been talking about Home and Zero for a few days and I got them today. Anyone else heard them yet?

Only had a couple of listens but I like all the lead guitar on Zero.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: sylvan on November 04, 2010, 09:10:16 AM
I figured since I got the whole album a month early, I can at least wait until the US version comes out to get those tracks.  But, I'm excited to add two new songs.  Next week :metal .

Edit:  Check out the 2010 Tour Rehearsals

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi1NgsHXSXM
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on November 05, 2010, 01:27:37 PM
Here is a great interview from Ultimate-Guitar. Really great questions and answers. I posted half of it.


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Whoever said you could have your cake and eat it too must have been talking about Mark Tremonti. The high-speed player recently returned to Creed for a reunion tour where they played big arenas all over the country. And on the other side of the musical spectrum he has Alter Bridge, the group fronted by Myles Kennedy – the singer Slash has tapped to go out on the road with him – playing in theaters and intimate clubs all over the UK and Europe. He has just completed recording AB III, Alter Bridge’s third album, and has plans to tour with them as well as return to the road with Creed at the beginning of 2011.


So, Tremonti has it all. But it’s not an easy task balancing the two bands and forging a unique identity within each one. He talked about that in this lengthy interview where he revealed what it feels like to win the lottery – twice.

UG: Mark, when we last spoke you had said, “The biggest challenges I’ve had since breaking up the first time,” talking about Creed, “was having Alter Bridge not sound like Creed. Now the challenge is, since we have all this new experience over the last six years were we’ve really come a long way as musicians and songwriters, is to not song like Alter Bridge when Creed got back together.“

Mark Tremonti: Right. When we did the Full Circle record, you know, we kinda dipped into the waters… how can I put this? You know, the new tricks along the way that we had learned over those last six years. We wanted to show that we had growth in Creed, but not necessarily going too much in the direction of the Alter Bridge sound. You know, the Alter Bridge sound is just a little heavier, more complex, and we wanted a little bit of that to come across on the Creed record. I think maybe there’s about three songs off the Creed record that could get somewhat into the Alter Bridge territory. But for the most part with the addition of Myles in Alter Bridge on the guitar, layering, and just the difference in vocals make it just sound so different that I think it’s safer now for us to experiment a little more with Creed without worrying about that as much.

Could we talk more about how the Creed thing came about? One of the things you had said to me was, “We were selling millions of records but it was no fun at all.” I understand things were a little uncomfortable when things broke up, but how did the overture come to sit back down with Scott? Were you basically open to the idea from the start?

Yeah, I think it just was a matter of us taking the time apart and growing up a little bit. Everybody, you know, me and Scott Phillips our drummer, all had kids. I think looking back on all the years, it’s easier to recognize the success you had when you step out of that band and go somewhere else. It’s just that much more difficult. You see how it is, the kind of struggle that most bands have out there, and then you realize just how well you had it and how much of a shame it would be just to throw away being able to tour arenas and amphitheaters and to live that kind of touring lifestyle. You know, it’s fun. Now we have to go out and do that with Creed here in the States for the most part and in Europe go back to the theaters and the big clubs and whatnot with Alter Bridge and really get the best of both worlds.

So what were those first sort of rehearsal sessions like? What did it feel like? Was it like being back with your buddies? Did it take a little bit of getting used to one another again?

When we got back together we really didn’t rehearse for the tour as much as we tried to rush getting a record done. We had talked about just doing a summer tour and then we decided if we’re gonna go for it we might as well do it the right way and get an album out there to support the tour. Just show people that we wanted to stay relevant and not just a band that relies on their legacy, you know, of the past and all the radio tunes that we have. We wanted to have something new out there. So we gave ourselves a real short period of time to get it done since the tour was already scheduled. So essentially we pretty much had three months to write, record and rehearse for a tour, so it was a lot of work. But you know, me, Scott and Brian have been together for so long that it’s easy for us to get into a room and arrange a song. We would do two or three songs a day sometimes and then Scott would go home and work on lyrics. He’d come in the next day and we’d say, “Hey, check out these three songs we got put together.” We’d work like that ‘till we got to the studio, I think, with fifteen or sixteen songs.

A lot of the stuff we were coming up with, me and Scott would sit down and… he writes lyrics like poetry. You know, he’ll break out 40 pages of lyrics and we’d throw them out on the table and me and him would go through them and I’d kinda try and single out which lyrics would fit the melodies right and he would choose his favorite lyrics. We would just kind of put ‘em together the same day as we’d be recording them. So it was different then we’d ever done it but the excitement in the studio, something so new and fresh, kinda comes through on the recording. You know, if we’d had all the time in the world we’d of done it different, but I think for the time that we had it worked out alright.


"We wanted to show that we had growth in Creed, but not necessarily going too much in the direction of the Alter Bridge sound."
So what were those first shows like? Being back out on the road and doing some of the big songs and the new songs? How did that feel?


Well, the first show is always nerve wracking because you haven’t done it in so many years. We really didn’t rehearse but maybe two or three days with all of us. You know, with all the time we were in the studio we didn’t allow ourselves much time to rehearse for the tour. So we had to kind of rely on muscle memory and practicing on our own to really get it. You know, this last tour was plug and play. We’re very well versed with the sets at this point so it was much easier now, much more fun. You can relax and have a good show. But, you know, first couple of weeks of the first tour last year were just making sure the production and the show and your personal performance and everything was right. You had to concentrate more, which is not as fun as letting it flow, but we got there after a few weeks.

So this new tour this year is the 20-10 tour?

Yeah, I think our performances were much better on this tour. Everybody got real comfortable with the set. I think this tour was a lot better than last year’s tour.

I’ve heard talks of South America next year? Would you be up for another Creed tour?

Yeah, we were talking to promoters down in South America and we’re just kind of waiting on the business folks to figure out something that makes sense for us. You know, Myles is gonna be busy next year on and off with Slash, which gives us time to see what falls in the gaps. I’m also gonna work on putting out a solo project myself. So if I don’t have a Creed tour going on and Myles is out with Slash, I’ll be piecing together an album just ‘cause I don’t like sitting idle, you know?

Certainly it’s in the early stages, but can you comment at all about this solo record you might be doing?

Well, I’m a songwriter, and I’ve got a ton of material sitting around and I just wanna get it recorded. I dunno, I’ve got a couple of guys that I’m working with. Eric Friedman and Garrett Whitlock. Eric Friedman on guitar, he plays guitar on the Creed tours with me; pretty much the little brother I never had. I’ve been real close with him for years now. He’s a real talented player. We get together and record all the demos. And Garrett Whitlock used to play in a band called Submersed. He’s a great drummer. And I’ll be singing and playing guitar. So it will be an experiment but we’ll see how it works out.

How would it be positioned in terms of what Creed and Alter Bridge are doing?

We put together about five songs at this point. Mostly melody driven; some heavier stuff. It’s tuned down a little lower ‘cause I’ve got a lower voice. So everything’s down at least a whole step. A lot of stuff’s tuned down to C, so that lends to a nice heavy guitar sound. But we’ll see. It’s not all gonna be heavy. It’s either gonna be heavy or melodic, one of the two. Probably a mixture of both.

When we spoke last you’d mentioned when you came up with the track “Blackbird,” that that sort of became the anchor song for that album. That you were now able to build this record around this song, that it was such a strong song. Can you look at a song off the new record as being that anchor track? Might it be “Isolation,” the first single?

I think “Isolation” is just a fun, heavy rock song. It’s gonna be a fun live song. Just an energetic tune. But I think there’s other songs on the record that are much deeper, you know. My favorite song on the record is “Show Me a Sign.”

Really?

Yeah, that’s the one that gets the most emotion out of me. But on the ballad side of things, and on the emotional side of when you hear a song and it really move you, I think “Wonderful Life” is about as emotional as it gets for Alter Bridge. When we were writing this record I was really pushing in the direction of let’s not chase down radio singles. Let’s keep everything as artistic as possible and not conform in any way, shape or form. Then the last week of pre-production came around and our producer and a couple of the guys in the band and everybody’s talking and we’re like, “We’ve got the heavy stuff, we got the long, epic kind of rock song, all the moody stuff. Let’s try to come up with something a little more light-hearted, a little less heavy, just to make the album dynamic.”

At first I was a little against it but then I’m glad I went with it because a song like “Wonderful Life” came out and now it’s one of my favorite songs on the record.

There are some acoustic guitars in there and certainly the picking thing is really one of the more identifiable elements of your playing. The guitar playing on the record seemed a little more seamless. You talked about not going after the radio single, and your playing reflects that. Was it a conscious thing to bring the playing to a new level?

You know, I’m just always practicing, always playing. Every record that comes out you’ve got a few years in between of growth. I think of this last cycle, it’s just what I’ve learned in the past three years since the last Alter Bridge record. We’d be piecing together a song, and wherever the solo [fit] we would just kinda go into it. It was never a planned thing. We know in Alter Bridge that solos are definitely a part of the sound. If there are no solos on the record it just wouldn’t be Alter Bridge. That’s one thing that kind of separated us at first from the Creed sound. I dunno, I just try to go in different directions with the guitar. I grew up trying to play as fast as I could. I really didn’t have any feel or vibrato, and really any class to my soloing. I’ve always been a melody writer, so I just thought, “Why don’t I really try to get into learn better phrasing and trying to play some more blues and jazz.” Just try and get my feel and phrasing and class up my guitar a bit, that’s all I’ve been working on.

Where do you think that happened? Did it happen with the Creed stuff? With the first AB record? Could you feel the shift away from the kind of shred thing to this more melodic style of playing?

I think in the last four years is when I really stopped trying to, you know, play individual licks as fast and as clean as I could. Now I’m just trying to improvise as much as I can, which makes a huge difference in my playing. I think every guitar player should, you know, if they’re playing for an hour a day, spend half that time improvising. So I think it’s the most important thing for me at this point. I think there’s a lot of learning you have to do before you can just sit down with a guitar and improvise. But I think I was at the level where I had all the road maps on the guitar: I know all my scales; I knew what fit where. And it was a good time to just apply and let it flow. ‘Cause at the end of the day I wanna be able to get called up on the stage by any kind of band or guitar players or whatnot and be able to just improvise my way through it. Before when I was younger there was no way in the world that I could do that [laughs.]

I remember talking to Myles and he’s like, “Man, you spend all this time doing all the painful, horrible stuff that I hate to do and you never have fun with the guitar and just play.” He didn’t realize that the painful stuff that he didn’t like was fun for me. I like setting the metronome and playing the same thing for an hour to make sure it’s perfect. I guess half the guys are like that and half the guys just say, “Screw it. I’m just gonna improvise and see what happens.” Those guys get better feel and better at improvising, and that’s what I’m really going after these days.


You bring up a really great point. I don’t wanna bash anybody out there, but I think most of the bands tend to lean a little more on the shred/solo thing as opposed to integrating the guitar as an orchestral tool and the improvising thing. I don’t hear a lot of it. We don’t have to name names, but do you hear guys kinda going more after sheer technique than style or character?

I think most people my age or younger are mainly relying on technique and stuff that they’ve pre-learned. You know, when we play live I’ll play the solos like they are on the record; maybe little changes here or there to make it flow better. But just in general when I’m playing alone and trying to become a better player that’s when I’ll throw the improvisation in there. I think most bands you hear on the radio, there’s not a whole lot of improvisation going on. I think the best guitar players are the ones that do it. I mean, a guy like Joe Bonamassa, that guy can improvise for days and sound like it’s the best-written solo in the world. That’s how I wanna be. That’s the kind of style I’m after. I’m after the Warren Haynes; I’m after the Audley Freed. I’m after Robben Ford, Larry Carlton, these guys that have an endless bag of tricks.

Interesting, because all these guys you describe aren’t really “rock” guitar players. I mean, Joe is, but he’s really more of a blues guy and Larry’s more of that jazz thing. These kinds of players are where you’re taking your input?

Yeah. Right now as we speak I’m learning “Up the Line” by Robben Ford, which I’ve been able to pull outta there a lot of great ideas. Usually he’s real jazzy but on this tune he’s more, you can use it for rock and roll; he stays mostly pentatonic but he does it in a way I’ve never really seen it before. He comes up with stuff that you’re just like, “Wow, that’s something different. I wanna learn that.” But at the same time I’ll learn a Robben Ford song and I’ll realize if I spend a month mastering this song, I wanna throw a different style in there as well, so I’ll learn a Michael Schenker song. So I’m learning “Rock Bottom” at the same time. Just trying to keep it mixed up. You know, you fall into one guy, one player, one style too much and I think you start losing sight of the big picture.

A song like “Ghost of Days Gone By” almost has that country feel in the verse. And again, the solo was great; very melodic. Was that sorta of the moment?

That song is in open D5 tuning. It lets you come up with crazy, different voicings. You know, you can’t go and play your pentatonic scale on a D5 tuning ‘cause it scrambles it all up. So it’s a great way to create something that sounds very different. I was just experimenting with it and I’ve kinda gotten used to that tuning where I’m comfortable with it now but I can still stumble on to new territory and try to come up with cool new chord voicings and whatnot and I found a nice chord in that solo that I just could arpeggiate in the middle. That’s probably my favorite part of the solo.

What about a song like “Make it Right.” Again, kind of more acoustic stuff with a really great solo over the outro. Sounds like you’re doing some of those Hendrix two-string pulls kinda moving up. Was that just kinda going in there and press record and kinda going for one?

“Make it Right” was from the first round of writing we did. Probably a good four months or so before we got back together to finish writing, and I improvised the solo. We were just putting the song back together for the first time and it kinda just stuck with me. ‘Cause there’s something magical sometimes when you improvise the solo and you’re in the moment, and I just went back and pretty much three quarters of that solo is from that first tape of the improvised solo I did when we first wrote the song. It was one of those things where why fix it if it ain’t broke?

There is a fair amount of acoustics on the record. I mean, you’ve always been kind of an acoustic guy, right?

Well, I do a lot of writing on acoustic. We layered on the songs where it made sense; we would layer some acoustic underneath, you know, when you have a verse that’s arpeggiated or whatnot, we would always put some acoustics underneath it.

We’d talked during our first interview about wanting to integrate Myles more into the process in terms of his guitar playing and his contributions on guitar. Do you think you brought him into the AB thing on this record in the way that you wanted to?

Oh, yeah. Ever since the first record he’s been a hundred percent in on the guitar playing of both the last two records and it makes a huge difference. On this record we didn’t have a whole lotta time to live with the songs and rehearse ‘em a lot. It was pretty much write and go into pre-production. When I was writing my guitar lines for this record I wrote as if I was the only player, like it was a Creed record. Not like it was a Creed record, but I played like I was gonna cover all the guitar parts with my one guitar. Probably make it sound as big and dynamic and full as possible. Then when Miles comes in, he had such a different style than me, that it just maybe gives it almost like a 3D quality to me. It adds a whole other layer and he’s got a really good way of not ever crowding things or making things sound cluttered at all. It always sounds much better when he puts his parts down. Him and Elvis [Baskette; producer] are very good at getting in there and throwing down a 100 different pedals and effects and just coming up with cool sounds. I still don’t know what the hell they did ‘cause I wasn’t in there when they did his guitar parts, but every time I’d hear one I’d love it.

Read the rest here
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/interviews/interviews/alter_bridge_we_wanted_to_stay_relevant_and_not_rely_on_legacy.html
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: PixelDream on November 06, 2010, 10:39:35 PM
My initial enthousiasm for ABIII has kinda worn off. The production is so agressive it gets tiring after a while. That constant wall of guitars in the choruses sounded awesome on the previous records, but here it sticks out like a sore thumb. Myles' vox are sounding thinner and more raw, don't like the way it is EQ'd at all. ODR and Blackbird sound so heavy yet open, but this mix/master just doesn't do their music justice.

I just listened to Metalingus, Find the Real and Ties That Bind. I don't hear that fun-ness in the new record somehow. It's like ABIII tries to be emotional, epic, heavy, soaring; in almost every song. 
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on November 07, 2010, 11:56:14 AM
I haven't listen to album in awhile only because i want it to be somewhat fresh when I get my hardcopy on Tuesday. It's definitely a departure from the previous albums, but it don't think it's a bad thing at all. The music is still fantastic. I don't really mind the production value, as long as the music hits me.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Adami on November 07, 2010, 12:04:43 PM
I haven't listen to album in awhile only because i want it to be somewhat fresh when I get my hardcopy on Tuesday. It's definitely a departure from the previous albums, but it don't think it's a bad thing at all. The music is still fantastic. I don't really mind the production value, as long as the music hits me.

I only heard samples, but it didn't sound like much of a departure to me.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on November 07, 2010, 12:42:44 PM
I haven't listen to album in awhile only because i want it to be somewhat fresh when I get my hardcopy on Tuesday. It's definitely a departure from the previous albums, but it don't think it's a bad thing at all. The music is still fantastic. I don't really mind the production value, as long as the music hits me.

I only heard samples, but it didn't sound like much of a departure to me.

Well that's just samples my amigo. This album is very artistic, and have many dark themes.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Adami on November 07, 2010, 12:43:51 PM
So were the other two.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: PixelDream on November 07, 2010, 04:11:22 PM
Seeing the guys live tomorrow in Amsterdam, pretty psyched!

Curious as to how the new tracks will sound live. Hopefully more organic than on the record. What an ugly rythm guitar sound, the riffs are some of the fattest Tremonti has put on tape, but it's just not sounding badass. ABIII literally has nothing, after 20 listens, that I want to come back for. Soundwise and songwriting wise, it sounds like they've gone from multi-facetted, inspiring, positive and SOULFUL rock music, to a one-dimensional, depressive hardrock/metal style. Those choruses are becoming so incredibly annoying after a while. And why does every chorus have to be harmonized? It's just all too much, can't really find myself in this one unfortunately.

Hoping to hear as much epic ODR/Blackbird material as possible, with some of the better material from ABIII - see if it's better live.

'Isolation' definately has the grooviest metal riff of the year. So that's cool I guess!  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on November 08, 2010, 10:11:02 AM
I can't wait! It's hits the stores in the US tomorrow!!! Finally will have it in my grasp, blasting it in my car stereo! Im stoked!!!  :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Jakartabassplayer on November 08, 2010, 10:17:55 AM
Seeing the guys live tomorrow in Amsterdam, pretty psyched!

Curious as to how the new tracks will sound live. Hopefully more organic than on the record. What an ugly rythm guitar sound, the riffs are some of the fattest Tremonti has put on tape, but it's just not sounding badass. ABIII literally has nothing, after 20 listens, that I want to come back for. Soundwise and songwriting wise, it sounds like they've gone from multi-facetted, inspiring, positive and SOULFUL rock music, to a one-dimensional, depressive hardrock/metal style. Those choruses are becoming so incredibly annoying after a while. And why does every chorus have to be harmonized? It's just all too much, can't really find myself in this one unfortunately.

Hoping to hear as much epic ODR/Blackbird material as possible, with some of the better material from ABIII - see if it's better live.

'Isolation' definately has the grooviest metal riff of the year. So that's cool I guess!  :biggrin:
JEALOUS!!!
was going but couldn't because of school.
If you could buy me a shirt or something Id pay you back and you'd be my hero
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: PixelDream on November 09, 2010, 09:30:30 AM
Seeing the guys live tomorrow in Amsterdam, pretty psyched!

Curious as to how the new tracks will sound live. Hopefully more organic than on the record. What an ugly rythm guitar sound, the riffs are some of the fattest Tremonti has put on tape, but it's just not sounding badass. ABIII literally has nothing, after 20 listens, that I want to come back for. Soundwise and songwriting wise, it sounds like they've gone from multi-facetted, inspiring, positive and SOULFUL rock music, to a one-dimensional, depressive hardrock/metal style. Those choruses are becoming so incredibly annoying after a while. And why does every chorus have to be harmonized? It's just all too much, can't really find myself in this one unfortunately.

Hoping to hear as much epic ODR/Blackbird material as possible, with some of the better material from ABIII - see if it's better live.

'Isolation' definately has the grooviest metal riff of the year. So that's cool I guess!  :biggrin:
JEALOUS!!!
was going but couldn't because of school.
If you could buy me a shirt or something Id pay you back and you'd be my hero

Damn, sorry dude. I just got back from Amsterdam (spent the night there), and now I'm reading your request. They did have awesome ABIII shirts, easily some of the coolest bandshirts I've seen.

The show was great obviously, I was particulary pleased with the amount of Blackbird material, which was more than half of that album.

Setlist, somewhat in order:

Slip to the Void (works great as an opener)
Before Tomorrow Comes
Buried Alive
All Hope Is Gone (the best live song from the new record)
Broken Wings (One of the highlights)
Brand New Start
White Knuckles
Ghosts of Days Gone By
Coming Home
Metalingus
Come to Life
Hallelujah
Blackbird
One Day Remains
Watch Over You (acoustic - great)
I Know it Hurts
Coeur D'alene
Ties That Bind
Open Your Eyes
Isolation (This one wasn't that great.. like the studio version though)

Encore:

Rise Today (awesome as an encore, and one of my favorite straight-forward AB songs)

Pro's:

Blackbird, the song. Presented as the centerpiece of their live show, and it's definately their greatest achievement. The solo section was built up very well, just like the studio version.

Good sound

Lots of songs

Awesome vocals

Awesome guitar solos

Great stage presence - enough interaction with the crowd. They definately got this down, and it's 50% of the show. I feel Myles' makes a compromise between his singing and his showmanship. But he's still amazing, and showmanship is very important for these kind of bands.

It's Alter Bridge, ofcourse they're great live!


Cons:

Hallelujah (Everybody has been doing it, and honestly the only really good version I can think of is Buckley's)

Some Blackbird material is still played way too fast, especially Ties That Bind, wtf.

Weird chorus-like effect over Myles' vox during the entire gig. It was especially noticable during the acoustic songs. A similar vocal effect I noticed on Muse's latest tour. Maybe it's to fatten up the vocals so that they don't get buried under the massive wall of guitars?

NO 'FIND THE REAL'!

Minor thing: After a couple of hours, you've had your fair share of loud guitars and epic choruses.


Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Jakartabassplayer on November 09, 2010, 10:14:27 AM
Seeing the guys live tomorrow in Amsterdam, pretty psyched!

Curious as to how the new tracks will sound live. Hopefully more organic than on the record. What an ugly rythm guitar sound, the riffs are some of the fattest Tremonti has put on tape, but it's just not sounding badass. ABIII literally has nothing, after 20 listens, that I want to come back for. Soundwise and songwriting wise, it sounds like they've gone from multi-facetted, inspiring, positive and SOULFUL rock music, to a one-dimensional, depressive hardrock/metal style. Those choruses are becoming so incredibly annoying after a while. And why does every chorus have to be harmonized? It's just all too much, can't really find myself in this one unfortunately.

Hoping to hear as much epic ODR/Blackbird material as possible, with some of the better material from ABIII - see if it's better live.

'Isolation' definately has the grooviest metal riff of the year. So that's cool I guess!  :biggrin:
JEALOUS!!!
was going but couldn't because of school.
If you could buy me a shirt or something Id pay you back and you'd be my hero

Damn, sorry dude. I just got back from Amsterdam (spent the night there), and now I'm reading your request. They did have awesome ABIII shirts, easily some of the coolest bandshirts I've seen.

The show was great obviously, I was particulary pleased with the amount of Blackbird material, which was more than half of that album.

Setlist, somewhat in order:

Slip to the Void (works great as an opener)
Before Tomorrow Comes
Buried Alive
All Hope Is Gone (the best live song from the new record)
Broken Wings (One of the highlights)
Brand New Start
White Knuckles
Ghosts of Days Gone By
Coming Home
Metalingus
Come to Life
Hallelujah
Blackbird
One Day Remains
Watch Over You (acoustic - great)
I Know it Hurts
Coeur D'alene
Ties That Bind
Open Your Eyes
Isolation (This one wasn't that great.. like the studio version though)

Encore:

Rise Today (awesome as an encore, and one of my favorite straight-forward AB songs)

Pro's:

Blackbird, the song. Presented as the centerpiece of their live show, and it's definately their greatest achievement. The solo section was built up very well, just like the studio version.

Good sound

Lots of songs

Awesome vocals

Awesome guitar solos

Great stage presence - enough interaction with the crowd. They definately got this down, and it's 50% of the show. I feel Myles' makes a compromise between his singing and his showmanship. But he's still amazing, and showmanship is very important for these kind of bands.

It's Alter Bridge, ofcourse they're great live!


Cons:

Hallelujah (Everybody has been doing it, and honestly the only really good version I can think of is Buckley's)

Some Blackbird material is still played way too fast, especially Ties That Bind, wtf.

Weird chorus-like effect over Myles' vox during the entire gig. It was especially noticable during the acoustic songs. A similar vocal effect I noticed on Muse's latest tour. Maybe it's to fatten up the vocals so that they don't get buried under the massive wall of guitars?

NO 'FIND THE REAL'!

Minor thing: After a couple of hours, you've had your fair share of loud guitars and epic choruses.



its okay


DAMN!!!!
That sounds epic!!!!!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: PixelDream on November 09, 2010, 02:01:33 PM
Yeah, they exceeded my expectations.

Upon us returning from the gig, my mother became curious to actually give them a good listen. I used to play them once in a while, but that was mostly as background music. So I put on 'Blackbird', and she recognised most of the songs; but now she was really listening.

She was floored by 'Brand New Start' and 'Watch Over You', and the title track had her in tears. Happened to me too, the first time I gave it a full-attention listen.

She just came to me, gave me 20 euros and said, 'Order a copy for me, it stays either here in the living room OR in my car. You keep your hands off of it'.  :rollin
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: faemir on November 09, 2010, 08:07:43 PM
If you mean to say that Pain of Salvation's hallelujah it's amazing, then you sir, are wrong.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Basekick on November 10, 2010, 12:06:12 AM
Uh oh.

I've been trying to round up some people to head to the Alter Bridge show at Gramercy Theatre before pulling the trigger and getting myself a ticket.  Tonight I figured I might as well secure myself one just in case the show sells ou---

God Dammit.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on November 10, 2010, 10:47:55 AM
I think Myles rendition of Hallelujah is just as good as Buckley's. Yeah, a lot of people are covering it, but Myles put a bit of Myles in his cover.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgTBDRCGjKU


You can't tell me this is not a beautiful cover
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Jakartabassplayer on November 10, 2010, 11:12:22 AM
Yeah, they exceeded my expectations.

Upon us returning from the gig, my mother became curious to actually give them a good listen. I used to play them once in a while, but that was mostly as background music. So I put on 'Blackbird', and she recognised most of the songs; but now she was really listening.

She was floored by 'Brand New Start' and 'Watch Over You', and the title track had her in tears. Happened to me too, the first time I gave it a full-attention listen.

She just came to me, gave me 20 euros and said, 'Order a copy for me, it stays either here in the living room OR in my car. You keep your hands off of it'.  :rollin
Epic
 :tup
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: PixelDream on November 10, 2010, 05:58:48 PM
I think Myles rendition of Hallelujah is just as good as Buckley's. Yeah, a lot of people are covering it, but Myles put a bit of Myles in his cover.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgTBDRCGjKU


You can't tell me this is not a beautiful cover

OK, point taken. I must admit I'm not a huge fan of the song, but it works for me in context of JB's 'Grace' album.

But what hurt it the most, was the chorus effect on Myles' voice. Acoustic guitar + CHORUSED voice on 'Hallelujah' = Fail. A song like that is supposed to sound as pure as possible, and a chorus effect just ruins that. Still, cool that he did it. Shouldn't have been moaning about it, the show was awesome.

Regained some apprecation for 'ABIII' after seeing AB live. They somehow managed to keep the same style, but they changed the overall tone of the moods and music. I happen to prefer the first two records, but this is obviously a great record. Had to give it a rest for a while, but yes, it's great. My expectations were too high, anyway.

I've heard 'Slip to the Void' so many times now (since it's the opener), but damn, that track just keeps on growing and growing. It's epic in a really cool way. 'The moment you let love go', there's just something about that. That's the perfect lyric for that melody. Great hook.
Maybe the best song on the record, together with 'Words Darker than their Wings'.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on November 10, 2010, 10:52:08 PM
I'm glad AB III is growing on you!

I, for one, am mad that i cannot find a friggin hardcopy of the album. That's right. I still don't have it in my possession at the moment. I went to a Target and two different Wal-Marts. They have Soundgardens new album on display, but not Alter Bridges. If Best Buy doesn't have it when i go tomorrow, I will combust, and all of Orlando will become a barren wasteland.... expect for Disney World... cuz it's magical
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: PixelDream on November 11, 2010, 05:37:38 AM
I'm glad AB III is growing on you!

I, for one, am mad that i cannot find a friggin hardcopy of the album. That's right. I still don't have it in my possession at the moment. I went to a Target and two different Wal-Marts. They have Soundgardens new album on display, but not Alter Bridges. If Best Buy doesn't have it when i go tomorrow, I will combust, and all of Orlando will become a barren wasteland.... expect for Disney World... cuz it's magical

Dude, that's ridiculous they don't carry it. In Holland it's all over the place, it's everywhere on the 'new releases' shelves. (the album entered at #7 in the album chart if I'm not mistaken). All Roadrunner releases are distributed very well here, but maybe Roadrunner being essentially a Dutch company has something to do with it.

Can't you just order it online?
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on November 12, 2010, 02:21:09 PM
Yeah, I could, and I should've, but the places I usually go and get my CDs have always been reliable. However, I went to Best Buy to get the CD, and they had it! They were in the New Release sections, and they were the only ones in the sections that didn't have many left. Which is good.

AB III is doing very well. Better than I expected. On iTunes, it was the #2 album overall, #1 on the rock charts. I don't think Blackbird even cracked the top ten on the overall albums chart.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: PixelDream on November 13, 2010, 04:49:17 AM
Album just kept growing on me. I can't say I like it better than Blackbird, but as a whole, it beats One Day Remains.

My favorite two songs are now 'Slip to the Void' and 'Words Darker Than Their Wings'. These are both in my top 10 AB songs.

Forgot about 'Show me a Sign'. That song is monumental as well. These three songs together are as epic as 'Blackbird', but spread throughout the album.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on November 13, 2010, 05:19:39 AM
I'm really loving Make It Right at the moment. This is such a sweeping song!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: RuRoRul on November 13, 2010, 06:00:32 AM
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Album just kept growing on me. I can't say I like it better than Blackbird, but as a whole, it beats One Day Remains.

My favorite two songs are now 'Slip to the Void' and 'Words Darker Than Their Wings'. These are both in my top 10 AB songs.

Forgot about 'Show me a Sign'. That song is monumental as well. These three songs together are as epic as 'Blackbird', but spread throughout the album.

Exactly agree with this. Well, there are a few other songs I like about as much as Words like I Know It Hurts and Fallout. And I'll have to see if it ages as well as ODR.

I've went through loads of phases with Make It Right - first listen, sounded really good, until it got to the chorus which I don't like. Then after a bit I regarded it as the worst or second worst on the album because of that chorus. Then I came to really appreciate the verses and bridge like I did at first, and was often listening to the song. But at the same time, it's difficult to really think a song is that great if the chorus of it isn't so good, especially in such a standard structured song where the chorus is in it 3 times during 4 minutes or so.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on November 13, 2010, 07:14:46 AM
Hmm. Interesting. One of the reasons i love Make It Right is because of the chorus. I just love how the elements work. The guitar and the harmony just connect. I really love how the guitars pic up on the second verse. That's probably my favorite part in the song. Also the solo at the end is just  :metal

All Hope Is Gone is probably my favorite on the album at the moment.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: RuRoRul on November 13, 2010, 07:31:39 AM
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I really love how the guitars pic up on the second verse. That's probably my favorite part in the song.

Same here.

And I might be kind of exaggerating how little I like the chorus. I mean, I can listen to the song fine and it sounds good, it just doesn't stand out to me at all and something about the "make it right" bit just doesn't sound as good as other choruses. Just not a chorus that stands up to the quality of the rest of the song in my opinion.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: pogoowner on November 13, 2010, 11:34:54 AM
Just ordered the new album because I realized Amazon is selling it for $7.99, and I get free shipping. Currently listening on Grooveshark, and it sounds pretty solid.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on November 13, 2010, 05:13:20 PM
Yeah i got mine at Best Buy for 7.99. Sweet deal bro. It's cheaper than downloading the music files off of iTunes haha
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: PixelDream on November 15, 2010, 06:51:10 PM
'Make it Right' sure isn't one of my favorites, even though the song is mostly comprised out of classic AB. The chorus just isn't as strong as it's supposed to be, indeed. The ending is very sweet though. 'Breathe Again' kinda falls into the same category. They're on the more happy side of the band, and I feel that they've done these type of songs way better in the past. It's the darker stuff that's great on this album, and for that I love it.

And the intro of 'Isolation' just doesn't seem to get old with me. 'BANG!' - *Most groovy metal riff I've heard in a long time*
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on November 16, 2010, 10:52:43 AM
Forget if I posted the link to my review of the album for The Breakdown Room. Here it is:

Thematic Approach a Winner for Alter Bridge on AB III -  http://www.breakdownroom.net/alterbridge-ab3.html


>>>>I got my ticket for the Seattle show on New Year's Day. Can't wait!  :metal




Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on November 16, 2010, 12:28:26 PM
Awesome review man  :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: wolfking on November 16, 2010, 02:00:05 PM
I'm really digging I Know it Hurts, great song.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Dcrupi on November 17, 2010, 12:53:18 AM
Ok, first of all, fantastic album.  Does not disappoint, Alter Bridge is great as always.  First impressions/stand outs: Slip to the Void, Show Me A Sign, Words Darker Than Their Wings, All Hope Is Gone.

One thing I was surprised no one has commented on, though--anyone find the similarities between Words Darker Than Their Wings and Make It Right odd?  I mean, there's the similar feeling arpeggiated intro for sure (Make It Right is a little faster), but the main uncanny similarity is in the chorus: "Into the fire you fall" compared to "Into the light may you fall," plus the VERY similar feel of the choruses (at least the first section of Make It Right).  Odd juxtaposition of fire vs. light...if Myles were a religious person, I would suggest some sort of heaven vs. hell analogy, but since he's not, I have no idea.  Not to mention the constant wordplay of right vs. wrong in Words Darker Than Their Wings ("They say that you're right, I hope that I'm wrong," plus the whole finding truth element), opposed to the title "Make It Right."

Perhaps I'm reading into things a little too much.  But I honestly noticed this parallel on my first listen-through--that leads me to believe this was an obvious choice by the band.  Thoughts?
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Perpetual Change on November 17, 2010, 01:33:57 AM
Yeah, I could, and I should've, but the places I usually go and get my CDs have always been reliable. However, I went to Best Buy to get the CD, and they had it! They were in the New Release sections, and they were the only ones in the sections that didn't have many left. Which is good.

AB III is doing very well. Better than I expected. On iTunes, it was the #2 album overall, #1 on the rock charts. I don't think Blackbird even cracked the top ten on the overall albums chart.

Dude, I'm in Hong Kong, and I've seen several legit hard copies, all as early as two weeks ago  ;)

Still have not bought. Did listen to Blackbird awhile ago, though, and enjoyed it immensely.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: axeman90210 on November 17, 2010, 07:58:41 AM
just got my ticket for the NYC show :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: RuRoRul on November 19, 2010, 09:57:09 AM
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I'm really digging I Know it Hurts, great song.

 :metal One of my favourites from the album, kind of typical Alter Bridge but kind of different from anything they've ever done.

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anyone find the similarities between Words Darker Than Their Wings and Make It Right odd?


Honestly the first time I heard Make It Right (after the free WDTTW mp3), at the very beginning I thought it was similar to Words' intro. But I decided it was just because it an appergio and because that was the guitar sound of the album for stuff like that, and the intros weren't actually all that similar. (Home also has that sound, and it is actually more similar to Make It Right).

After that I never thought about it again, but it is a good point with the lyrics. Probably not too much meaning in it, but a lot of the lyrics are connected, and since Words is a bit like a summary of the whole album, the right / wrong thing might come from Make It Right.

Anyway I'm looking forward to hearing another bonus track, For What May Never Come, soon. Waiting on a bonus track is pretty good since there isn't really any pressure on it to be good, as there is with the album. At worst, it's just a mediocre song you don't listen to, but if it turns out to be good it can make the collection of songs even better  :tup
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: PixelDream on November 19, 2010, 10:18:28 AM
Yes, I'd like bonus tracks too. Looking forward to hearing them. Not going to check them out on youtube, want to hear them in good quality. That means I'm going to have to find a way of acquiring them. Are they on iTunes?

And this album is really good. Like I said before, I thought it was a step back from their other albums. But now that I know all albums by heart, my current favorite is DEFINATELY 'ABIII'. All around just 100% of the time awesomeness, instead of masterful songs and so-so songs.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on November 19, 2010, 11:32:56 AM
Home is my favorite from the two US bonus tracks
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on November 19, 2010, 11:38:08 AM
Accelerando (or anyone this applies to) -- if you have any pull with whoever puts the AB website and social media network updates up, I'd appreciate pushing my review. Trying to get attention to the website.

Thanks.

Brian

p.s. can't wait for the New Year's Day gig in Seattle! Hopefully the boys aren't too tired to put on a full set!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: RuRoRul on November 19, 2010, 11:39:23 AM
They are on every US release, so they should be on US iTunes I think. I don't think they are available on UK / European iTunes though   :|

And the last bonus track is supposedly on the Japanese release, which isn't until the 24th. Not sure how other fans will be able to get that one (officially).
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: PixelDream on November 19, 2010, 11:51:08 AM
'Wonderful Life' is growing on me! Really beautiful song actually. The ending is my favorite part, love that vocal performance by Myles and the underlying chord progression.

Just saw an acoustic performance by Myles & Mark of 'Wonderful Life', with the hostess presenting them as 'Alter Life'. FAIL.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on November 19, 2010, 12:48:16 PM
Accelerando (or anyone this applies to) -- if you have any pull with whoever puts the AB website and social media network updates up, I'd appreciate pushing my review. Trying to get attention to the website.

Done
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Basekick on November 21, 2010, 11:02:40 PM
Remember me freaking out about not finding any tickets to the December 20th concert at Gramercy Theatre?

I checked the site again the other day and got myself two tickets  :laugh:.  Happy I could make it right.

Anyone meeting up for said concert?  I'd be down to grab some food and meet some you fellows before rocking the fuck out.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on November 22, 2010, 05:18:32 AM
I checked the site again the other day and got myself two tickets  :laugh:.  Happy I could make it right.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/tremontidood/tard-1.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on November 22, 2010, 09:59:02 AM
Accelerando (or anyone this applies to) -- if you have any pull with whoever puts the AB website and social media network updates up, I'd appreciate pushing my review. Trying to get attention to the website.

Done

Thanks. I appreciate it.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: bosk1 on November 22, 2010, 10:07:14 AM
I'm really digging I Know it Hurts, great song.

Same here.  I love that opening riff, and I wish it were used more throughout hte song.  I know it's there in the chorus, but the way they arranged that part of the song, it gets buried.

'Wonderful Life' is growing on me! Really beautiful song actually. The ending is my favorite part, love that vocal performance by Myles and the underlying chord progression. 

I really don't like it.  Maybe it'll grow on me eventually, but right now, I usually just want to skip it.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Basekick on November 22, 2010, 10:08:38 AM
I checked the site again the other day and got myself two tickets  :laugh:.  Happy I could make it right.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/tremontidood/tard-1.gif)

Looks like I'm caught redhanded.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: axeman90210 on November 22, 2010, 12:27:39 PM
I'll be going to the show in NYC on the 20th, and I'll be hitting up a bar about 10 (short) blocks away called the Rattle n Hum beforehand.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: RuRoRul on November 22, 2010, 01:51:07 PM
I feel kind of bad to say I don't like Wonderful Life (or more accurately I like it least from the album) since I know what they are going for with it and I can appreciate it and the accoustic verses are beautiful and that ending is epic. But truth is, even though Watch Over You and In Loving Memory are in the same vein as it, they just seem much better to me, even though I have trouble deciding whether they are better or worse than a lot of Alter Bridge songs.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on November 22, 2010, 05:44:55 PM
Each of those songs deals with losing something, but Wonderful Life, while similar in that regard, is quite a bit different. The song is about the experience from the point you last see someone, on their death bed, to the point where you are able to move past the grief and realize how special your time with said person was.

So while similar, the lyrical meaning is different from the other songs you have mentioned.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on November 22, 2010, 11:04:44 PM
^^ I couldn't have said it better myself.


The director of Live From Amsterdam shot the Isolation video, and posted a teaser of it....

HERE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_N-3FZtrreQ


 :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: RuRoRul on November 23, 2010, 02:54:43 AM
Each of those songs deals with losing something, but Wonderful Life, while similar in that regard, is quite a bit different. The song is about the experience from the point you last see someone, on their death bed, to the point where you are able to move past the grief and realize how special your time with said person was.

So while similar, the lyrical meaning is different from the other songs you have mentioned.

Yeah definitely - the lyrical meaning is different between In Loving Memory and Watch Over You too. I just mean those are the three similar songs - softer, at least partly accoustic ones, very emotional, etc. And while I find In Loving Memory and Watch Over You to be great but only to be listened to if in the right mood, or for a certain purpose, Wonderful Life just doesn't seem as good, so it's probably my least favourite from AB III.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: sylvan on November 23, 2010, 06:50:32 AM
1 - In Loving Memory
2 - Wonderful Life








3 - Watch Over You
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: EPICVIEW on November 23, 2010, 08:22:32 AM
I dont hate this band, but I just dont get the excitement over them. I dont find them unique enough, the guy has a big loud voice is all I ever get from them.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on November 23, 2010, 08:53:07 AM
What I love about Alter Bridge is that the band encompasses all that I love about music.

They have a big voice with range, but a good sense of emotion and melody. They have a great balance of ripping, aggressive songs, then some more epic cuts, and a few ballads that aren't sappy in the least. Just emotional.

Add to that a killer guitar element (love the contrast between Myles and Mark and how they approach solos and writing in general, reminds me of DeGarmo/Wilton from Queensryche back in the day, with Myles being the DeGarmo and Tremonti being the Wilton).

So for me, AB just has all those elements that I love in my music, and reminds me a bit of the ORIGINAL Queensryche, which is my all time favorite band.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: EPICVIEW on November 23, 2010, 09:29:03 AM
I have their first two CDs. So I have tried with them, I listened to the stream of the new CD it was OK.

but, if others love them thats great! music is very personal. many would hate what I enjoy.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on November 23, 2010, 11:00:41 AM
Oh, don't misconstrue what I meant. I wasn't belittling you or anything about not liking them at all. I was just sharing some of the reasons I dig them, that's all. :)

Music is the most subjective thing in the world, so I completely understand what you're saying. :)
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on November 23, 2010, 11:30:18 AM
What I love about Alter Bridge is that the band encompasses all that I love about music.

They have a big voice with range, but a good sense of emotion and melody. They have a great balance of ripping, aggressive songs, then some more epic cuts, and a few ballads that aren't sappy in the least. Just emotional.

Add to that a killer guitar element (love the contrast between Myles and Mark and how they approach solos and writing in general, reminds me of DeGarmo/Wilton from Queensryche back in the day, with Myles being the DeGarmo and Tremonti being the Wilton).

So for me, AB just has all those elements that I love in my music, and reminds me a bit of the ORIGINAL Queensryche, which is my all time favorite band.


Hey man, no homo, but :heart






Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on November 25, 2010, 04:54:18 PM
God, i can't get the chorus from Home outta my head. It's wonderful
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on November 30, 2010, 07:43:58 PM
I love it when guitar players improvise their guitar licks, and Mark has reached a point where he can do it really well live, like on this video of them playing Find The Real live


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jSgZ-dPGK4
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Perpetual Change on December 10, 2010, 08:57:30 AM
Wonderful Life is fantastic.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Adami on December 10, 2010, 10:36:02 AM
So I gave most of the album a once through.


Eh.

Some really great ideas in there, like really great. However almost every chorus turned into a generic tremonti chorus and lost my interest. Also the production leaves something to be desired.


It's sad they can't write another chorus.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: PixelDream on December 10, 2010, 11:38:06 AM
The most different sounding chorus is on 'All Hope is Gone'. It's not my favorite chorus, but they should definately lay off the 'epic chorus' a bit. Nonetheless, great album. I really, really enjoy it. But at the same time, it's becoming too formulaic.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Adami on December 10, 2010, 11:40:31 AM
I also didn't notice anything really memorable about it.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Perpetual Change on December 10, 2010, 06:07:11 PM
So I gave most of the album a once through.


Eh.

Some really great ideas in there, like really great. However almost every chorus turned into a generic tremonti chorus and lost my interest. Also the production leaves something to be desired.


It's sad they can't write another chorus.

Okay, this time (and I love you, Adami, but I've noticed this about many of your posts more and more lately):

Obvious troll is obvious.

 ;D
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Adami on December 10, 2010, 06:08:07 PM
How am I trolling?

Seriously. I said the chorus' sound the same, and they do. And the production isn't their best.


How the HELL is that trolling?
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Perpetual Change on December 10, 2010, 06:13:50 PM
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So I gave most of the album a once through.

OK.

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Some really great ideas in there, like really great. However almost every chorus turned into a generic tremonti chorus and lost my interest. Also the production leaves something to be desired.

Like what?

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It's sad they can't write another chorus.

Which ones are you talking about?


Frankly, I don't even believe that you own the album or have actually listened to most of it. And now, at best, you'll scurry on to youtube or download it quickly just to provide examples to back up your original point  ;D
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Adami on December 10, 2010, 06:20:04 PM
I do have the album. I have listened to most of it, as I said. One time. Except Isolation I heard a few times before the album came out.


I have every single creed album and the other two AB albums, most of which I'm very fond of. Tremonti/Phillips/Marshall are one of my favorite music writing trios.

However, out of those 7 albums, they have 2 or so chorus styles that they repeat over....and over.....and over. The vocals change, but the music stays the same.



Regarding the production, the guitar tone isn't as good as it has been for the heavy riffs (though it sounds fine when he's strumming chords...which unfortunatly he is doing like 80% of the album). The snare is a bit...I dunno, just not as good as it has been. While the kick drums are WAY too quiet, along with the toms.

I can't comment on the bass because I don't hear any. However the vocals sound amazing.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: OsMosis2259 on December 10, 2010, 06:27:20 PM
I do have the album. I have listened to most of it, as I said. One time. Except Isolation I heard a few times before the album came out.


I have every single creed album and the other two AB albums, most of which I'm very fond of. Tremonti/Phillips/Marshall are one of my favorite music writing trios.

However, out of those 7 albums, they have 2 or so chorus styles that they repeat over....and over.....and over. The vocals change, but the music stays the same.



Regarding the production, the guitar tone isn't as good as it has been for the heavy riffs (though it sounds fine when he's strumming chords...which unfortunatly he is doing like 80% of the album). The snare is a bit...I dunno, just not as good as it has been. While the kick drums are WAY too quiet, along with the toms.

I can't comment on the bass because I don't hear any. However the vocals sound amazing.

Yeah something about the drums sound quiet... It's pretty noticeable when the whole band enters in "slip to the void" after the quiet intro.  Otherwise I still think it is a rocking album  :corn
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: bosk1 on December 10, 2010, 06:34:15 PM
I'm not sure what it is with this band.  I get really excited to listen to them, and I listen to about half an album's worth and really like it, but then I'm bored and don't want any more.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Adami on December 10, 2010, 06:38:00 PM
I'm not sure what it is with this band.  I get really excited to listen to them, and I listen to about half an album's worth and really like it, but then I'm bored and don't want any more.

I can't quite remember what the last few songs of any of their albums sound like, so maybe that's a good point.


I still blame it on a crazy lack of any diversity.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Perpetual Change on December 10, 2010, 08:29:09 PM
I'm not sure what it is with this band.  I get really excited to listen to them, and I listen to about half an album's worth and really like it, but then I'm bored and don't want any more.

I think that is one of their issues. Their songs, as good as they are, can be quite formulaic. That makes listening to them start to feel like a chore sometimes. Occasionally, just for kicks, I'll start the albums at track 6 or so, just to make it to the end. Usually, I wind up enjoying the 2nd halves just as much as the first.

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I still blame it on a crazy lack of any diversity.

Despite still not being able to understand how you could own all of a certain group of musicians output but only have "almost" listened to the newest album once, I guess I can agree. It'd be nice to hear more "Blackbird" quality epics and the like. But still, I wish I had the luxury of buying albums without bothering to give them time enough for a full-spin.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: j on December 10, 2010, 08:53:39 PM
I still blame it on a crazy lack of any diversity.

I agree.  Although maybe my favorite AB track is the last song on their first album.  And it sounds about as different from the rest of their stuff as they've gotten so far in their career.

-J
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: LCArenas on December 10, 2010, 09:17:51 PM
AB III, while still being one of my fav albums of the year (Top 10) is harder to get into than the other AB Records. There are some parts in the songs that don't fit in, as the chorus in Make it Right.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Adami on December 10, 2010, 10:25:19 PM

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I still blame it on a crazy lack of any diversity.

Despite still not being able to understand how you could own all of a certain group of musicians output but only have "almost" listened to the newest album once, I guess I can agree. It'd be nice to hear more "Blackbird" quality epics and the like. But still, I wish I had the luxury of buying albums without bothering to give them time enough for a full-spin.

I only listen to heavy music in my car. At home I only listen to classical, celtic, and new age. And living in the city, I don't drive often. So I bought the CD a few days ago and listen to it here and there when driving.

Make more sense?
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Perpetual Change on December 11, 2010, 01:15:49 AM
I'm happy now. But, honestly, I still feel like if you haven't even listened to the album all the way through once, you probably should at least do that and then some. I think people greatly exaggerate the "Tremonti chorus," because I don't hear a lot in common with them other then they're all extremely catchy. But anyway, we all can probably agree that after AB III it's probably time to steer in a new direction.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: PixelDream on December 11, 2010, 05:45:38 AM
They could definately delve more into the new sounds on 'Slip to the Void'. By far the most exciting track on the record.

Whole album is pretty awesome, top 3 this year. Album became much better once I immersed myself in the 'world' of ABIII with the lyrics. Great concept, really works for them. Music-wise, a little samey, yes. But the good moments are really, really good.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: RuRoRul on December 11, 2010, 07:23:25 AM
They do use a similar type of chorus an awful lot, I can understand people saying that. I don't think it's that big of a deal though, as the rest of the songs are often quite different and they are good at those choruses. I would like there not to be so many of them but it definitely isn't going to put me off.

I usually listen to either the first half or the second half of AB III at once as well. I often start at I Know It Hurts and go on from there.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: ariich on December 11, 2010, 08:26:48 AM
I still blame it on a crazy lack of any diversity.
I listened to the new album and the one before it for the first time today (I'd never bothered checking them out before), and while I liked both albums and they have some great choruses, it's absolutely true that the music is SO samey.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Destiny Of Chaos on December 11, 2010, 06:42:55 PM
I'll be seeing these dudes live this Thursday night. Not one of my favorite bands, but should be fun.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: faemir on December 11, 2010, 07:14:58 PM
I still can't get into this album, slip to the void is good but then my interest just vanishes :-\
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Dcrupi on December 11, 2010, 11:05:41 PM
Seeing AB live on Tuesday.  Can't. Wait.  Gonna be a helluva show.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on December 12, 2010, 06:47:32 PM
I still can't get into this album, slip to the void is good but then my interest just vanishes :-\

Eh, sorry to hear that. I love Slip To The Void, but i def don't think it's the best song on the album. Maybe if you give All Hope Is Gone, Ghosts of Days Gone By, and Show Me A Sign a couple tries, it'll patch up some holes.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Perpetual Change on December 12, 2010, 07:26:53 PM
After spinning the album for about a week non-stop, mostly while jogging and surfing the web, I'd say that as good as it is, it's a bit hard to get through. It feels long, which is highlighted by the formuliacness. But I still like it. Still a top-10 album for me this year.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on December 13, 2010, 08:41:17 PM
So interesting to read thoughts on this. I think the album is brilliant. I think some folks on here may be forgetting the lyrical component of AB III. The album, minus the two bonus tracks, is a concept/theme album on Myles' struggle with faith. It has a ton of ups and downs, both lyrically and musically. The ride Myles takes us on is human, it is real and it is powerful. Frankly, the brutal honesty in the lyrics and the emotion Myles puts forth is jaw dropping.

I find it almost unreal that some of you find the record a "chore" to get through. I realize I am a big, big, big fan, and most of you probably aren't, but by far and away, this album is a classic. It's a true ALBUM, in every sense of the word and a bold statement.

What I find refreshing about it is...it is SOOOOO dark, but the songs still sound like they could hit at radio. It's masterful songwriting. Plus, there is a ton of tasty guitar bits and chord changes that take me on a great musical ride.

I know music is subjective, but sometimes I get the feeling that Dream Theater fans lose sight of good songs, just because they might not be in a crazy time signatures and have three different movements. Alter Bridge is a quasi-progressive band, sorta in the same vein as Queensryche used to be. Their songs don't sound the same, they are just more streamlined to appeal to a wider hard rock audience.

AB III is my album of the year, and totally worth the wait.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Perpetual Change on December 13, 2010, 09:10:17 PM
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I find it almost unreal that some of you find the record a "chore" to get through. I realize I am a big, big, big fan, and most of you probably aren't, but by far and away, this album is a classic. It's a true ALBUM, in every sense of the word and a bold statement.

It's a chore because every song follows the same exact format. That just gets repetitive after awhile. I agree with the other that this album needed to be mixed up a little bit. Maybe two less 5 minute diddies and a 10 minute epic somewhere. I don't know. It just feels too long.

That said, it's still very, very good.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: j on December 13, 2010, 10:30:08 PM
I know music is subjective, but sometimes I get the feeling that Dream Theater fans lose sight of good songs, just because they might not be in a crazy time signatures and have three different movements.

This may be true for some, but there are a lot of us here who are critical of DT's own songwriting, and who couldn't care less about funky-ass time sigs and other stuff I don't understand.  I did enjoy this record well enough, and it had some great standout moments on it.

I do agree that it is pretty strong lyrically, and the Kennedy-Tremonti duo is capable of bringing a shit-ton of feeling.  But in the end, there are a lot of samey rhythms and melodies, and that coupled with a lack of creative or remotely varied song structure is a big strike IMO.

-J
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: axeman90210 on December 13, 2010, 10:38:42 PM
I've gotta give the new album some spins to prep for the NYC Alter Bridge show next Monday. My impression of the new album so far has been that it's good, but samey. I can find myself in the mood to listen to it, but then start tiring of it after a handful of songs.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Basekick on December 14, 2010, 01:30:15 AM
I've gotta give the new album some spins to prep for the NYC Alter Bridge show next Monday. My impression of the new album so far has been that it's good, but samey. I can find myself in the mood to listen to it, but then start tiring of it after a handful of songs.

Speaking of the show next week, anyone else know what the deal is with this "coat check voucher" ?  That is, is it $2 for a reservation, free at the theatre, or can I just arrive and pay the $2 or whatever.  I'm confused  :P. 
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: faemir on December 14, 2010, 09:12:02 AM
I find it almost unreal that some of you find the record a "chore" to get through. I realize I am a big, big, big fan, and most of you probably aren't, but by far and away, this album is a classic. It's a true ALBUM, in every sense of the word and a bold statement.

Captain Subjectivity and Opinion Man strike again!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on December 14, 2010, 09:26:32 AM
I find it almost unreal that some of you find the record a "chore" to get through. I realize I am a big, big, big fan, and most of you probably aren't, but by far and away, this album is a classic. It's a true ALBUM, in every sense of the word and a bold statement.

Captain Subjectivity and Opinion Man strike again!

That was pretty uncalled for. I actually have, for this board, one of the most objective musical tastes there is, if I do say so myself. My point in posting about the record was, just because a song isn't 10 minutes in length, and have the same structures, doesn't always make it samey. The band, if you are familiar with Alter Bridge, isn't a progressive band in the vein of Dream Theater. It's a mainstream hard rock band that has a bit of progressive stuff in it, ala the original Queensryche. Not quite progressive, but a little bit of it in there.

Many of the posts here talk about the record being "samey" in terms of song structure. Well, I remind folks that Alter Bridge isn't a progressive metal band. Most song structures are in the vein that Alter Bridge's are. Their aim is to have mainstream hard rock music.

Also, if you are hearing samey riffs and or melodies...again...it's a theme/concept album. Perhaps if you are hearing that, it is on purpose.

Frankly, I'm surprised that no one has remarked that perhaps the album (not counting the bonus tracks) probably should be considered one epic piece, split into separate tracks. Because that's how I view it, given the subject matter. It's the mental journey of a man struggling with what he once believed....and it is in running order, from the event, until the conclusion. The struggle from beginning to its "end" (if it can be called an ending...more like a continuation).

In essence, it could be considered one whole song...sorta how Fates Warning did with A Pleasant Shade of Gray.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: ariich on December 14, 2010, 09:27:38 AM
I know music is subjective, but sometimes I get the feeling that Dream Theater fans lose sight of good songs, just because they might not be in a crazy time signatures and have three different movements.
This isn't fair at all. I can assure you that I listen to a wider range of music, much of which is very simple, than most people, and while individual songs on ABIII are excellent, the album drags a bit because there are just so many songs that sound really very similar. It's a good album, it just lacks any variety whatsoever.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on December 14, 2010, 09:28:48 AM
I know music is subjective, but sometimes I get the feeling that Dream Theater fans lose sight of good songs, just because they might not be in a crazy time signatures and have three different movements.
This isn't fair at all. I can assure you that I listen to a wider range of music, much of which is very simple, than most people, and while individual songs on ABIII are excellent, the album drags a bit because there are just so many songs that sound really very similar. It's a good album, it just lacks any variety whatsoever.

It's absolutely fair. It's not true in ALL cases, but it is absolutely true in many on this board.

And again, the whole similar thing...read my post above. It goes to my point that if people are hearing things similar throughout the record, keep in mind this is a conceptual/theme album. It's probably on purpose. I don't listen to AB III in the vein of individual tracks, because I don't think it's meant to be.

There are similar motifs, riffs, melodies, etc., in all great concept records. Mindcrime, Tommy, APSoG, SFAM, The Wall, etc. I'm pointing that out, so that folks view the record in a different light. This isn't ONe Day Remains or Blackbird...records that were individual songs.

Treated as something like the concept records I mentioned, any "samey" or "similar" vibe should be treated in the context of that...

Anyway, whatever. That's how I view the record, and that's what I was told was the aim of the band with the album. So I'll just roll with that.

IF folks disagree, that's cool, but I keep throwing it out there so people listen to the record with that in mind...because it seems some folks aren't.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: ariich on December 14, 2010, 09:31:37 AM
I actually have, for this board, one of the most objective musical tastes there is, if I do say so myself.
That doesn't even make sense. :lol

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My point in posting about the record was, just because a song isn't 10 minutes in length, and have the same structures, doesn't always make it samey. The band, if you are familiar with Alter Bridge, isn't a progressive band in the vein of Dream Theater. It's a mainstream hard rock band that has a bit of progressive stuff in it, ala the original Queensryche. Not quite progressive, but a little bit of it in there.
I'm pretty sure nobody cares whether it is "progressive" or "10-minutes long" or any of that. You're arguing against points that weren't made.

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Many of the posts here talk about the record being "samey" in terms of song structure. Well, I remind folks that Alter Bridge isn't a progressive metal band. Most song structures are in the vein that Alter Bridge's are. Their aim is to have mainstream hard rock music.
It's not just samey in terms of structure, it's samey in terms of everything. Pretty much every song has the same feel, and is in the same style. JLB's Static Impulse suffers from exactly the same problem, but on a slightly smaller scale, and it has fewer songs.

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Frankly, I'm surprised that no one has remarked that perhaps the album (not counting the bonus tracks) probably should be considered one epic piece, split into separate tracks. Because that's how I view it, given the subject matter. It's the mental journey of a man struggling with what he once believed.

In essence, it could be considered one whole song...sorta how Fates Warning did with A Pleasant Shade of Gray.
Maybe, but APSOG had a hell of a lot more variation in tone and style than AB III.

Anyway, tastes are tastes, people can think whatever they want.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on December 14, 2010, 09:38:20 AM
That doesn't even make sense. :lol

How so? Saying that I am objective doesn't make sense? One look at my music collection would change your mind.



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I'm pretty sure nobody cares whether it is "progressive" or "10-minutes long" or any of that. You're arguing against points that weren't made.

Re-read the last two pages. Someone absolutely mentioned "10 minute long songs."

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It's not just samey in terms of structure, it's samey in terms of everything. Pretty much every song has the same feel, and is in the same style. JLB's Static Impulse suffers from exactly the same problem, but on a slightly smaller scale, and it has fewer songs.

And I'd argue that for THIS ALBUM, if you are hearing that, it was likely very much by design, given what the album is, conceptual/theme-wise.

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Maybe, but APSOG had a hell of a lot more variation in tone and style than AB III.

Anyway, tastes are tastes, people can think whatever they want.

Not really. There were recurring riffs and themes throughout. The only major difference is that APSoG relies heavily on keyboards, giving the album an additional instrument.

It'll be interesting to see if AB incorporates that in its next album.

Yes, people can think whatever they want. But this is a DISCUSSION FORUM, which is the reason why I brought it up.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: faemir on December 14, 2010, 09:47:43 AM
It's samey, and I'm not saying that because OMG ITS NOT PROG, i'm saying it because every song is similar. Yes, it's hard rock, but plenty of other non-prog bands manage to have incredible diversity, or even have similar sounding songs that aren't samey.

Radiohead, Thrice, The Smashing Pumpkins, Dredg, etc etc.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: ariich on December 14, 2010, 10:00:21 AM
How so? Saying that I am objective doesn't make sense? One look at my music collection would change your mind.
Saying that your tastes are more objective doesn't make sense. Tastes are subjective.

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I'm pretty sure nobody cares whether it is "progressive" or "10-minutes long" or any of that. You're arguing against points that weren't made.

Re-read the last two pages. Someone absolutely mentioned "10 minute long songs."
I've gone back and read the whole thread since the album was announced and I can't find anything like that whatsoever. In fact this has been one of the most overwhelmingly positive threads we've had about a new album! There's just been the complaint from a very small number of us about them sounding samey, which even some huge fans agree with.

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It's not just samey in terms of structure, it's samey in terms of everything. Pretty much every song has the same feel, and is in the same style. JLB's Static Impulse suffers from exactly the same problem, but on a slightly smaller scale, and it has fewer songs.

And I'd argue that for THIS ALBUM, if you are hearing that, it was likely very much by design, given what the album is, conceptual/theme-wise.
Fair enough, I'm not saying it is inherently a bad thing or that it's not justified, it's just why I personally find the album drags a bit, and so why others might find the same thing.

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Yes, people can think whatever they want. But this is a DISCUSSION FORUM, which is the reason why I brought it up.
Indeed, and I'm not saying that you shouldn't post your thoughts and defend the album. I just said that questioning the integrity of those who feel differently is not fair.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: faemir on December 14, 2010, 11:23:00 AM
By design? Sure. By direct choice? I think not. Listen to All of AB and Creed's work - it's all in the same vein. Songs like Blackbird were AB truely branching out and it worked tremendously, and then they go and say "oh we won't even try to top that song". What sort of attitude is that? I'm saying Blackbird > all because it's long or "epic", but it was experimentation and progression in their music, which is what bands need to do to avoid stagnating, which is exactly what AB have done. A Prime example of this movement in style/sound done perfectly would be Thrice.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: EPICVIEW on December 14, 2010, 11:33:01 AM
I still blame it on a crazy lack of any diversity.
I listened to the new album and the one before it for the first time today (I'd never bothered checking them out before), and while I liked both albums and they have some great choruses, it's absolutely true that the music is SO samey.


I feel the same way!
its so formula that it lacks any real brilliance, but I guess if you "like one song of theirs, then you like them all, since they all feel the same"  and the production is tiring to my ears also, I certainly dont find anything "EPIC" about this CD! nor do I think anyone here cant enjoy the CD because we are DT fans?  all of us enjoy all types of music, just look at the topics being deiscussed!!!

well said Ariich!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: RuRoRul on December 14, 2010, 01:07:16 PM
Well Alter Bridge is my favourite band, but I understand why some people might feel that way. The songs are similar in that most of them have a similar structure, and often use a similar type of chorus.

While I wouldn't mind seeing some different songs, like "a 10 minute epic" (which I would love to see Alter Bridge try), the fact is that mostly bands having too much "variety" on their albums usually just means some of the songs flop, for me. I don't think every Alter Bridge song sounds the same, or even too similar, at all, but I can understand that many of them aren't drastically different. I wouldn't mind seeing some different structures and chorus styles, but at the same time I'd rather have an album of great songs in a similar vein than a few songs that completely flop, thrown in just to make variety.

Also I often listen to Alter Bridge songs individually, or at least not entire album at a time. In fact I usually only listen to either new albums whole at a time or concept albums. So for me it doesn't matter if an album has too many songs - the more Alter Bridge music I can get, the happier I'll be. It probably doesn't help people listening to the whole album and finding it difficult to get through that they're probably hearing the American version with two extra bonus tracks - 16 songs is quite a lot to get through, especially when a lot of the songs are of a similar type.

That said, I think AB III is an amazing album, every song on it is great and many are absolutely amazing, and although I might like to see Alter Bridge do some different song structures and more choruses that are a bit different, the fact is Alter Bridge have always made the best music for me, regardless of whether I prefer less standard song structures, and in the end the music will always win for me over variety, being experimental or having non standard structure.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: bosk1 on December 14, 2010, 05:39:59 PM
I have nothing bad to say about the album or the band.  But in terms of it dragging because of similar structures and sound, yeah, I made the same comment.  While I like the album, it does at times feel like a chore to get through.  I have similar feelings toward Symphony X's Paradise Lost--terrific album, but there is little variety, so I tend to lose interest after about half the album. 

I will say, however, that sometimes with a group like this, it really just takes time for the album to sink in.  Not being as big a fan as Samsara, I haven't really completely immersed myself in the album enough yet to take in all its subtleties and appreciate each song on its own. 
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Perpetual Change on December 14, 2010, 06:02:04 PM
Many of the posts here talk about the record being "samey" in terms of song structure. Well, I remind folks that Alter Bridge isn't a progressive metal band. Most song structures are in the vein that Alter Bridge's are. Their aim is to have mainstream hard rock music.

This seems kind of bizarre to me, because there's nothing "samey" about plenty of rock albums-- I'm thinking Led Zeppelin IV here. At some point, rock became about writing heavy songs in the pop format. And it wasn't like that before. Unfortunately, Alter Bridge are somewhat stuck in that 90s concept of what hard rock is "supposed" to sound like.

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Frankly, I'm surprised that no one has remarked that perhaps the album (not counting the bonus tracks) probably should be considered one epic piece, split into separate tracks. Because that's how I view it, given the subject matter. It's the mental journey of a man struggling with what he once believed....and it is in running order, from the event, until the conclusion. The struggle from beginning to its "end" (if it can be called an ending...more like a continuation).

In essence, it could be considered one whole song...sorta how Fates Warning did with A Pleasant Shade of Gray.
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I'm not hearing that at all honestly.

And I'm the one who mentioned a 10 minute long song, but you'd be doing me a real disservice by pretending that means I want a "prog epic." In fact, I said a longer ballad or anything that shakes up the format of this record would help it.

Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: PixelDream on December 14, 2010, 06:23:22 PM
Many of the posts here talk about the record being "samey" in terms of song structure. Well, I remind folks that Alter Bridge isn't a progressive metal band. Most song structures are in the vein that Alter Bridge's are. Their aim is to have mainstream hard rock music.

This seems kind of bizarre to me, because there's nothing "samey" about plenty of rock albums-- I'm thinking Led Zeppelin IV here. At some point, rock became about writing heavy songs in the pop format. And it wasn't like that before. Unfortunately, Alter Bridge are somewhat stuck in that 90s concept of what hard rock is "supposed" to sound like.

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Frankly, I'm surprised that no one has remarked that perhaps the album (not counting the bonus tracks) probably should be considered one epic piece, split into separate tracks. Because that's how I view it, given the subject matter. It's the mental journey of a man struggling with what he once believed....and it is in running order, from the event, until the conclusion. The struggle from beginning to its "end" (if it can be called an ending...more like a continuation).

In essence, it could be considered one whole song...sorta how Fates Warning did with A Pleasant Shade of Gray.

I'm not hearing that at all honestly.


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Nope. Sure, the band says is a KIND OF 'concept album', but as far as individual songs go; the band couldn't agree which songs to be excluded from the record, so they decided to put 14 tracks on it. That doesn't sound like a calculated concept album. Yes, most of the songs written for the record tell Myles' story, and sure, it evolves towards the end. But that doesn't make it a concept album.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Heretic on December 14, 2010, 07:47:57 PM
It's a concept album in the fact that it all relates around a general theme. There's no exact story, but it's kind of out there for the listener to interpret for themselves.

All in all I really love AB III, my favorites being Slip to the Void, Ghost of Days Gone By, All Hope is Gone, Wonderful Life, and Words Darker Than Their Wings.

I do however think that the songs on the album that had slightly different structure (Slip and Words) are basically the most original and best songs on the album. They seem to break that typical Verse-Chorus-Verse-Chorus-Bridge-Chorus thing most of their songs have, which is why they stand out. At least, to me.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Perpetual Change on December 14, 2010, 08:00:10 PM
Yeah, this album has a strong beginning, solid middle, and great ending. There's just a couple tracks between it all that don't seem to add anything.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: sylvan on December 15, 2010, 08:17:02 AM
So can we all agree that this album would be better in some way if ~4 songs were left off?  Actually, after thinking about it, I can't say that I would remove 4 songs.  I would have left off Make It Right and Breathe Again, but would have definately included Zero as a standard track.  Most of the songs that I originally wasn't big on have grown on me. 

So, while I suppose for sake of the argument that the album would be "better" with fewer tracks, I just can't bring myself to turn away from new Alter Bridge.  As far as most, if not all, Alter Bridge fans are concerned, the more new songs the better.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Gadough on December 15, 2010, 08:44:10 AM
will they open their eyes

and rea ra ra rea wuuuuuuhhhhhhh
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: lordxizor on December 15, 2010, 01:54:09 PM
So, while I suppose for sake of the argument that the album would be "better" with fewer tracks, I just can't bring myself to turn away from new Alter Bridge.  As far as most, if not all, Alter Bridge fans are concerned, the more new songs the better.
I'd say I agree with this. It is a long album and I still think it lacks the 2-3 standout tracks that the first two albums had. But it's a solid album with no bad tracks and I enjoy listening to it. So it's pretty hard to complain.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: faemir on December 16, 2010, 05:36:51 AM
I will say, however, that sometimes with a group like this, it really just takes time for the album to sink in. 

So on one side Samsara says "oh its  not prog what sort of variations/diversity do you expect?"

And then you say that it has these subtleties and nuances that you need to listen to the album lots to get.

So which is it?

Especially for a band like Alter Bridge, which are going for the intelligent mainstream rock approach, this sort of non-grabbing strikes of an incredibly bland and samey album.

The first two albums didn't need any sort of breaking in/repeated listens to enjoy, so why would this be any different? Either (a) it's a new style / complex which it clearly isn't, or (b) it's samey and boring.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Heretic on December 16, 2010, 10:28:01 AM
It's definitely not boring. I can listen to the whole album and enjoy it 100%. It's the last few songs before Life Must Go On that kind of seem "same-y," as from Slip to the Void to Wonderful Life, there's a great variation in songs, especially the lyrical genius and incredible melody of All Hope is Gone.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: faemir on December 16, 2010, 04:47:13 PM
I find it boring, sorry.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: axeman90210 on December 19, 2010, 07:14:51 AM
almost concert day bump for this thread. I'll be going to the NYC show tomorrow and hanging out at a bar called the Rattle n Hum beforehand (it's about 10 short blocks from the venue). If anyone's interested in hanging out beforehand just shoot me a PM
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on December 23, 2010, 11:47:03 AM

So on one side Samsara says "oh its  not prog what sort of variations/diversity do you expect?"

And then you say that it has these subtleties and nuances that you need to listen to the album lots to get.

So which is it?



It's both. Just because it has nuances and subtleties, doesn't mean it is prog. It isn't. Again, I liken the band, particularly the last two albums, to older era Queensryche (say PL-Empire-Mindcrime years). They have some moments of progressive stuff in there, but in general, they are just a hard rock/metal band that pushes toward mainstream.

Not sure what is so difficult in accepting that a band can have some complexity and depth to it and NOT be prog.

If you don't like the record, that's fine. I mean, at the end of the day, we all like what we like.

Anyway -- can't wait for the Seattle show and throwin' it down with the boys. I hope they open up the set list a bit more though. I'd like to see more of the new album performed.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: LudwigVan on December 23, 2010, 12:10:18 PM
Some real interesting discussion in this thread  :tup

And I'm not even an Alter Bridge fan.  But now my interest has been piqued   
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on December 23, 2010, 12:49:37 PM
I dunno whether you'd like AB III by Alter Bridge or not, LV. I don't know your tastes well enough. I will say, however, that you'll likely appreciate what the band was trying to do with the record from a thematic approach.

If you see the album and feel like an impulse buy, give it a shot. Just know the American version contains two bonus tracks, which does NOT go with the concept of the record (and they are labeled differently on the back of the album, so it is clearly delineated).

At the very least, I'd love your take on the record, from a one-shot perspective.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on January 04, 2011, 01:58:35 PM
Seattle show on New Years Day was amazing. I was front row, right in-between Myles Kennedy and Mark Tremonti. Got a pick from Mark, a drum stick from Scott, and also scored Mark's set list. Bad ass gig. 20 songs, 90 minutes. Both openers were good too.

Myles sounded amazing. He cut notes short, probably to just prevent any strain, given the guy hasn't had a long stretch off (nor will he) in the last year or so. But he hit them, and it was obvious he could have kept wailing.

Anyway, had a blast, and a buddy of mine was sitting up at the tables and sat next to the EMI/Capitol rep for the band. he said AB would be back in the Northwest for another tour leg in the spring. so for those of you that missed them, they are touring again, right after the Slash/Ozzy two-month jaunt.

My wife is hitting up the show in LA tonight, at the House of Blues. She's super stoked.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on January 04, 2011, 04:00:15 PM
Wooo!!! Made the cover

http://yfrog.com/gy00y5hj
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on January 04, 2011, 04:40:05 PM
Hell yeah!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on January 06, 2011, 04:41:18 PM
I just found this video on one of Myle's earlier bands from the 90's, Citizen Swing. He is almost unrecognizable!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIN2ZVj6FRA
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Adami on January 07, 2011, 01:14:51 PM
So I listened to the album a few more times, or at least tried to.

By about track 8, it just blurs together. I lose the ability to tell the songs apart. The vocals are also super repetitive. We have established from the last 2 albums the Myles can sing long high notes. But at this point it's almost all he does. Tons of just drawn out high notes, it gets indistinguishable. The songs are in the same key, so he's usually hitting the exact same note over and over. There are some VERY cool moments on the cd, which I love. But they're lost in the sea of sameness, which is unfortunate. And the sameness isn't a bad sound, it just gets boring to hear over and over. Same reason I can't listen to Disturbed for more than 3 songs or so in a row, it just blurs together.

But I have to say so far the best part of the whole CD is the first minute or so of it before it gets heavy. If they did more stuff like that, rather than typical alterbridge all the time it would have been great. Sad they can't experiment more or diversify or something. But they found a formula that they like and I guess they plan on sticking with it.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: pogoowner on January 07, 2011, 02:32:55 PM
But I have to say so far the best part of the whole CD is the first minute or so of it before it gets heavy. If they did more stuff like that, rather than typical alterbridge all the time it would have been great. Sad they can't experiment more or diversify or something. But they found a formula that they like and I guess they plan on sticking with it.
I completely agree. I love that opening bit.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: wolfking on January 08, 2011, 04:23:00 AM
Alter Bridge live on Leno

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIab1DqzCvw

Crank the sound right up for this vid.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on January 08, 2011, 10:37:59 AM
Alter Bridge live on Leno

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIab1DqzCvw

Crank the sound right up for this vid.


 :metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Adami on January 08, 2011, 04:30:01 PM
Alter Bridge live on Leno

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIab1DqzCvw

Crank the sound right up for this vid.


Why is Tremonti totally burried in the mix? That made me sad.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: plap11 on January 08, 2011, 04:33:50 PM
just have to say i was disappointed with ABIII
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: wolfking on January 08, 2011, 05:26:30 PM
Alter Bridge live on Leno

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIab1DqzCvw

Crank the sound right up for this vid.


Why is Tremonti totally burried in the mix? That made me sad.

Yeah, I noticed that too.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on January 10, 2011, 04:34:23 PM
I find it funny that AB III is the bands most critically acclaimed album, yet some fans or casual listeners are saying its samey and boring. lol Guess its not for everyone. I personally love it
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Perpetual Change on January 10, 2011, 04:54:09 PM
I find it funny that AB III is the bands most critically acclaimed album, yet some fans or casual listeners are saying its samey and boring. lol Guess its not for everyone. I personally love it

I dunno. I think the lack of a Blackbird-caliber epic really hurts the theme they were going for.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: sneakyblueberry on January 10, 2011, 05:31:00 PM
I find it funny that AB III is the bands most critically acclaimed album, yet some fans or casual listeners are saying its samey and boring. lol Guess its not for everyone. I personally love it

(http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/forumavatars/avatar_688.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/tremontidood/Bannercopy.jpg)


:neverusethis:
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Adami on January 11, 2011, 12:13:08 AM
I find it funny that AB III is the bands most critically acclaimed album, yet some fans or casual listeners are saying its samey and boring. lol Guess its not for everyone. I personally love it

It's their newest. It's popularity is based on their last CD.

It IS samey. It's not a bad album, but it's hard to listen to. I've heard it multiple times already and I can barely tell any of the songs apart.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: sylvan on January 11, 2011, 07:56:48 AM
I've heard it multiple times already and I can barely tell any of the songs apart.

 :loser:
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: EPICVIEW on January 11, 2011, 08:42:07 AM
I feel the same as Adami, this CD is far from being as good as the hype. its an ok album, but I dont see anyhting that really makes it great, or extraordinary, and I agree that the production is passe' and like Adami said its like Disturbed, by track 5 its repeating and droning, and the singer to me is almost a caricature of himself, with the big loud voice all the time. I gotta say..I dont see it.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on January 11, 2011, 09:18:08 AM
I agree with Accelerando. AB III is by far Alter Bridge's best album so far. Each one has gotten better. All this "sameness" people are talking about is ridiculous. So what if the song structures are similar? Most bands write with similar song structures. Particularly non-prog bands that write accessible hard rock music.

The songs are all different, with different melodies, different harmonies, different riffs, different solos and different lyrics. They aren't the same at all.

If a record that has songs that are all structured the same way - intro, verse, chorus, verse, chorus,  bridge, solo, verse, chorus, outro

I don't see the big deal. Artists have been doing that for uh...60-some odd years now?

Alter Bridge isn't a prog band. They are a hard rock band that has some metal, alternative, and progressive elements.

The record is epic from start to finish (Words Darker Than Their Wings...the others are obviously bonus tracks). I respect those folks who say they don't like the record, but to call it "samey" because the song structures are similar ignores the rest of what makes up a song. Most bands outside of prog bands write with similar song structures.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Dcrupi on January 11, 2011, 09:19:27 AM
Geez, so much criticism around here...

Saw them live outside of Detroit a few weeks ago, it was nothing short of an amazing concert, one of the best I've ever attended.  The sound was spectacular, and Tremonti/Myles sounded phenomenal the ENTIRE night, I was especially surprised that the latter did not fade at ALL over the course of the evening.  Shows he really knows his instrument well.  

Snagged a Myles pick and ended up meeting the guys after the show, and although they took a freaking long time to come out, they were all incredibly kind and friendly.  Scott, the drummer, was especially cool about hanging out and talking for a while...all such nice guys!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: pogoowner on January 11, 2011, 09:21:47 AM
It is samey, but I don't think the quality is any lower than what's on Blackbird. There are just more tracks, and since they're a band that doesn't use a whole lot of variation in their songs, it inevitably leads to the problems people here are describing.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: RuRoRul on January 11, 2011, 09:38:28 AM
I don't find it that "samey" at all if you're used to their sound... the fact is a lot of different band's stuff sound samey if you're not into it. If the band isn't overly experimental, or isn't making the songs so different on the surface (e.g. "this is our slow accoustic one, this is our heavy one") then it might sound similar.

Anyway I love the album. I understand listening to all 16 tracks including the bonus (or 17 if you have the Japanese bonus track) might be quite a lot, but I personally am just happy to have as much Alter Bridge music as possible. I can listen to the tracks in whatever sequence I want (often I Know It Hurts to the end), skip whatever tracks I want (often Wonderful Life), etc.

I know not everyone will like them, but apart from similar structures and the choruses mostly being big and melodic, I don't think they're samey. I wouldn't mind them to use different structures or have different parts more often (e.g. Slip To The Void), but I just find the music to be the best there is, even if it is usually in similar structures. They can't really be beat for melodies, riffs and especially vocals, in my opinion.

I do think Blackbird's better though - mainly just because the title track and Ties That Bind are still my two favourite songs by them, and Blackbird has a few more standout tracks as well... AB III has a lot of very high quality songs though, 17 and all of them are good, most of them being amazing.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: EPICVIEW on January 11, 2011, 09:39:46 AM
To me its that industy mags think this ABIII is really something, that its getting too many accolades for what it is..its soooooo standard stuff.. so safe in many ways..too safe for me. It makes me dislike the industry as this stuff is sooooo in the box.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on January 11, 2011, 09:44:35 AM
What I end up doing is cutting the album off before the bonus tracks. Labels have been making many of these relevant bands do all these tracks lately, and it has gotten to be overkill.

I am grateful for the extra Alter Bridge, but I am going to separate the tracks on my iPod eventually, so I can have the album, and then have a b-sides compilation.

In recent memory, they've done this with Stone Sour, Alter Bridge, and...crap, that is all I can remember, but my wife mentioned a few more over the weekend when we talked about this.

"Too safe" "in the box?" Then go throw yourself at bands that are off the commercial spectrum. Alter Bridge is what it is, a commercially viable hard rock band with metal, alternative and progressive elements at times. They just don't experiment with song structure that much (or haven't yet).
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: RuRoRul on January 11, 2011, 09:48:47 AM
I didn't know it was really making it big in the press at all.

Perhaps because it's the first time an Alter Bridge album has become more well known. And because Alter Bridge are actually amazing - even if they aren't too experimental, it's just hard rock with a metal edge done perfectly, in my opinion. Compared to other famous bands that are both "sooo in the box" and just not anywhere as good, maybe it stands out.

Anyway to me I just don't feel that every bit of music has to be going out of its way to be different. Quality music that's "in the box" is better than music that just isn't as good but makes more of an effort to be "out of the box".
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: bosk1 on January 11, 2011, 10:00:27 AM
"Too safe" "in the box?" Then go throw yourself at bands that are off the commercial spectrum. Alter Bridge is what it is, a commercially viable hard rock band with metal, alternative and progressive elements at times. They just don't experiment with song structure that much (or haven't yet).

And they are good at it.  As others have said, good band, good album, but it does have a very samey sound throughout.  And it has nothing to do with being a prog fan.  I have liked a lot of more straightforward rock bands since the early '80s.  It's not just a similar song structure.  It's a lot of things that have been pointed out.  This album just has a feel to it that doesn't have much variety to it.  I've felt that way about a few other albums as well.  Two that come to mind are, more recently, Symphony X's Paradise Lost and, going back many years, Tesla's The Great Radio Controversy.  Both great albums.  One a complex symphonic metal album; the other a straightforward rock album.  Both had a couple of standout tracks, but beyond that, have an overall sound to them that is very samey and can lose a listener.  For me, both albums took work to learn to appreciate because it took time to get past that sameyness and appreciate what each separate song brought to the table.  I feel the same way about ABIII.  Overall, I like it.  But it feels like a chore to get through.  And you, being more familiar with the band, may have more quickly picked out what you like and picked out all the subtleties that make each song stand out.  Right or wrong, it's taking much more work for me to get there with this one.  So there you have it.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: RuRoRul on January 11, 2011, 10:10:00 AM
"Too safe" "in the box?" Then go throw yourself at bands that are off the commercial spectrum. Alter Bridge is what it is, a commercially viable hard rock band with metal, alternative and progressive elements at times. They just don't experiment with song structure that much (or haven't yet).

And they are good at it.  As others have said, good band, good album, but it does have a very samey sound throughout.  And it has nothing to do with being a prog fan.  I have liked a lot of more straightforward rock bands since the early '80s.  It's not just a similar song structure.  It's a lot of things that have been pointed out.  This album just has a feel to it that doesn't have much variety to it.  I've felt that way about a few other albums as well.  Two that come to mind are, more recently, Symphony X's Paradise Lost and, going back many years, Tesla's The Great Radio Controversy.  Both great albums.  One a complex symphonic metal album; the other a straightforward rock album.  Both had a couple of standout tracks, but beyond that, have an overall sound to them that is very samey and can lose a listener.  For me, both albums took work to learn to appreciate because it took time to get past that sameyness and appreciate what each separate song brought to the table.  I feel the same way about ABIII.  Overall, I like it.  But it feels like a chore to get through.  And you, being more familiar with the band, may have more quickly picked out what you like and picked out all the subtleties that make each song stand out.  Right or wrong, it's taking much more work for me to get there with this one.  So there you have it.

I agree with you, that's what I was trying to say before as well. I also agree with Paradise Lost (don't know the other album), but at the same time I think it's possibly Symphony X's best, along with V which is another fairly samey album in my opinion. Maybe it's just me but I tend to think the more "samey" albums might take more listens to make each song stand out, but are often better albums than albums with more obviously varied tracks, which often lead to more hit and miss. (Obviously if an album is less varied and the sound isn't one you like, then you won't like the album at all.)
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on January 11, 2011, 10:16:21 AM
I think it has everything to do with people that are used to and enjoy prog bands more than most people. YOU are a prog fan bosk1. You love Neal Morse, you love Transatlantic. That is prog, is it not?

I'm not saying you (or whoever else) is incapable of making the distinction on it all (same way with me, I am more of a straight forward hard rock and metal fan, so it is akin to me saying I can't make the distinction between prog and the elements within prog that make it cool, which I can).

But what I am saying is that people get used to hearing things in the music that they like, and when something new is presented to them, their ear automatically attunes itself to want that. And that is what I think many folks that are criticizing AB III are doing, particularly on this forum, where there are a greater number of prog fans.

For me, I do the opposite. At first I search for the killer riff and great melody. If I don't find it, it makes it harder to listen and appreciate something. Case in point for me is Porcupine Tree. Love PT now. But it took me a LONG time to really get there, because I was listening for elements from them that aren't what they are about.

AB isn't (to this point) about experimenting with song structures. Period. Maybe one day they will, but right now, they aren't.

And hey, just like I think Systematic Chaos, Octavarium and BCSL are really crappy records overall, for various reasons, anyone can think the same of AB III. I just happen to be an uber fan of the band, and of this record in particular and I'm glad to see the band getting props from most of the media and most of the listeners. Feels good to be a hardcore fan of a band that is actually getting some noteworthy attention.

And frankly, I think lyrically the album has a great theme/concept to it that draws me in as a listener. Love Myles' singing and listening to him tell his story is captivating set against a great hard rock/metal background. Everything I dig in music is on the record, which is why I am so high on it.

And to be clear, none of my criticism of the album's critics is personal. Not at all. I just love the record, and don't really hear what some of you complaining about it are complaining about....because it doesn't sound samey at all to me, except for song structure, and that is what AB does. Has since its first album.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: bosk1 on January 11, 2011, 10:25:49 AM
YOU are a prog fan bosk1. You love Neal Morse, you love Transatlantic. That is prog, is it not?

Of course.  I'm just saying that is irrelevant for a variety of reasons.  One is that in 1989, long before I had listened to or even heard that there was such a thing as prog, I felt the same way about Tesla's album.  Another is that in recent years, I have felt the same about something that, by all accounts, is complex:  Symphony X's last release. 

But we could also talk about plenty of recent, more straightforward albums by non-prog bands where I have not had the same reaction:  Lacuna Coil's Shallow Life, Queensryche's American Soldier, Y&T's Facemeler (that album had entirely different issues), Slash's album, Megadeth, King's X, Flyleaf, Extreme, Armored Saint, etc., etc., etc. 

The fact that I might like me some prog doesn't really factor into why I'm having a hard time with ABIII at all.  I'm not imposing any expectations that they write something that sounds like The Whirlwind or The Count of Tuscany.  I'm just saying this album feels "samey."  And you can argue that it shouldn't, but that doesn't change the fact that it does.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on January 11, 2011, 10:29:17 AM
It does for YOU. It doesn't at all for me and others, because song structures (which is the reason I am assuming you feel it is samey) isn't something that my ear really picks up and harps on as an element that can detract from my enjoyment of a record.

It does for you and a couple of others, and I get that, I just don't agree (based on my own individual taste and preferences, obviously). I don't hear it, and even if I nitpicked and sat down with each song to highlight what the structure was, and what repeated, that is what AB does. Always has. So it really just doesn't bother ME. It has everything I love about music in the album, which is why I am an admitted (committed, perhaps? lol) fanboy.   :lol
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: EPICVIEW on January 11, 2011, 10:39:38 AM
being a Prog fan ahs nothing to do with a critique of ABIII.

I listen to everything, and to me , good music has some sort of risk involved, and by a third album I have no want of more of the same formula. most great bands know this and adapt and have a vision, even Nirvana refused to stay the same, the new Good Charlotte takes more risks..LOL, and again the production is exhausting to my ears, its like the same wall of sound over and over, on first listen I knew where the songs were heading, to me thats boring TODAY, but Im sure they are making easy money so I cant fault that. ABIII  is very much like a new Disturbed CD, that analogy is a good one. the singer is not for me either, oh well..
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: bosk1 on January 11, 2011, 10:42:10 AM
It does for YOU.

Well, of course.  But even though I am sure you don't mean it this way, your posts up to this point come across as trying to say that people who feel that way are objectively wrong or as dismissing anyone who feels that way because we are just biased prog fans who can't appreciate straightforward rock.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on January 11, 2011, 10:47:04 AM
It does for YOU.

Well, of course.  But even though I am sure you don't mean it this way, your posts up to this point come across as trying to say that people who feel that way are objectively wrong or as dismissing anyone who feels that way because we are just biased prog fans who can't appreciate straightforward rock.

I'm saying that DOES play a part in it. Not everyone, and not to the extreme, but absolutely plays a role. And I am not dismissing anyone. I just think it has some part in the criticism, whether folks here want to admit it, or are even conscious of it.

I do the same thing (with the example of PT I gave above). It is human nature. AB III is getting criticized for something by fans of a band whose songs are long, drawn out, and whose structures are usually different and not very, heh, "structured." Well, something has to give there.  ;)  We're human.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Adami on January 11, 2011, 10:50:49 AM
I can easily listen to all three Stone Sour albums all the way through with no problem. I can listen to the first two AB albums all the way through with....well, not as much of a problem. I have 0 problem with straightforward rock. But every band should be able to change styles often enough to keep things interesting. AB can't pull that off.

I'm really glad you think the album is FULL of variety and that none of the songs sound anything remotely like one another. Clearly you're not alone in that either, you have 2-3 people in this very thread who agree, you have the band who agrees, the producers who agree, the managers, the label reps and so forth. So both stances have firm ground to stand on. Stop getting so defensive, it's just a CD.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: EPICVIEW on January 11, 2011, 10:54:08 AM
How about this: I find ABIII "cheezy" its sums a lot of what I dont like today, its a formula for the masses, radio friendly, made to be sold, and a commodity. its as dangerous and captivating as a Disney Production. it annoys me that the industry rewards this stuff..I dont blame they members of AB for taking the safe easy route
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on January 11, 2011, 10:56:26 AM
I can easily listen to all three Stone Sour albums all the way through with no problem. I can listen to the first two AB albums all the way through with....well, not as much of a problem. I have 0 problem with straightforward rock. But every band should be able to change styles often enough to keep things interesting. AB can't pull that off.

I'm really glad you think the album is FULL of variety and that none of the songs sound anything remotely like one another. Clearly you're not alone in that either, you have 2-3 people in this very thread who agree, you have the band who agrees, the producers who agree, the managers, the label reps and so forth. So both stances have firm ground to stand on. Stop getting so defensive, it's just a CD.

Hey, just like when people slag on Dream Theater records you like, or folks like, and then the flock comes to defend it, I am a big fan of AB III and I will defend it. I'll use that "it's just a CD" reference if DT puts out another pile of dogsh*t and people praise it.  ;)

Saying AB "can't pull that off." is ridiculous. They don't experiment with song structure, and some folks (like yourself) pinged on that and it makes it sound samey for you. That's fine. We just disagree and do our thing. But I'm a fan, and I'm going to defend something that I like. Particularly when people work in definitives, such as your "can't pull that off" comment, Adami.

Of course they can. They've elected not to. Perhaps the next album they will. But for what this album is, theme-wise, I find the record to be perfect.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on January 11, 2011, 10:58:34 AM
How about this: I find ABIII "cheezy" its sums a lot of what I dont like today, its a formula for the masses, radio friendly, made to be sold, and a commodity. its as dangerous and captivating as a Disney Production. it annoys me that the industry rewards this stuff..I dont blame they members of AB for taking the safe easy route

Yay for you bro!

I could turn those descriptions the complete opposite way and refer to Dream Theater and my taste for their recent output. Music is subjective. It is what it is. But AB III is no Nickelback, in any way shape or form. lol.

I'm just stoked that a band I love put out one of my favorite records, and had some intelligence and interesting storytelling in it. Yay for me (and Accelandro, of course). lol.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Adami on January 11, 2011, 11:01:48 AM
Well you're right, they can pull it off. But they choose not to, which is actually worse.

But I still enjoy it, I just can't listen to more than 4 or 5 songs at a time, and I still can't tell any of them apart, but it's still in my CD player. And I still love AB.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: EPICVIEW on January 11, 2011, 11:07:22 AM
actually...I find AB very similar to Nickleback. certainly more same then different!!

but heck, my crtique is valid, and I see nothing  "dangerous" or "visonary and risky" about ABIII, and thats my point. which tells me a lot about how deep in the box or stale AB is becoming. I mean the new HelloGoodbye album was a departure, look at Silverchair and Diorama.. that what I want, RISKS and real songs that they wrote from the heart and dont even care if anyone like them.

I guess if one was a big Creed fan, this is your band as Creed is no more and I can understand that, Creed was a BIG band
This is a DT forum, so we all do pick on what we like and dislike on DT
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on January 11, 2011, 11:09:13 AM
Well you're right, they can pull it off. But they choose not to, which is actually worse.

But I still enjoy it, I just can't listen to more than 4 or 5 songs at a time, and I still can't tell any of them apart, but it's still in my CD player. And I still love AB.

It's not worse if it was done to further the theme and the storytelling aspect of the album, which is what I think they were going for.

As for your second point, thank God for MP3 players then, so you can skip around. Sometimes not listening to an album from front to back has its advantages.  :)
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Adami on January 11, 2011, 11:11:50 AM
I don't think the style repetition has anything to do with storytelling. Because they weren't telling the same story on the last two albums or all 5 or whatever creed albums, yet the style is on every single one of those CD's, a lot.


And I haven't put AB3 on my Ipod yet, I keep meaning to, but the CD's in my car and I keep forgetting to take it with me when I get out.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on January 11, 2011, 11:14:21 AM
actually...I find AB very similar to Nickleback. certainly more same the different!!

but heck, my crtique is valid, and I see nothing  "dangerous" or "visonary and risky" about ABIII, and thats my point. which tells me a lot about how deep in the box or stale AB is becoming. I mean the new HelloGoodbye album was a departure, look at Silverchair and Diorama.. that what I want, RISKS and real songs that they wrote from the heart and dont even care if anyone like them.

I guess if one was a big Creed fan, this is your band as Creed is no more and I can understand that, Creed was a BIG band
This is a DT forum, so we all do pick on what we like and dislike on DT

Great for you bro, we disagree. I hear plenty that keeps my interest on AB III. It simply has songs with similar structures. No biggie, and in my case, I think it was intentional given the album's theme. But whatever, think what you want. All this stuff was wrote from the heart. It's not formulaic at all such as Nickelback.  Creed is still around, and Alter Bridge sounds nothing like Creed (other than three or four songs, mostly from the first AB album).

But the round-and-round approach is getting us nowhere. You don't like AB III. Understood. We disagree. No biggie.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: RuRoRul on January 11, 2011, 11:17:19 AM
actually...I find AB very similar to Nickleback. certainly more same the different!!

but heck, my crtique is valid, and I see nothing  "dangerous" or "visonary and risky" about ABIII, and thats my point. which tells me a lot about how deep in the box or stale AB is becoming. I mean the new HelloGoodbye album was a departure, look at Silverchair and Diorama.. that what I want, RISKS and real songs that they wrote from the heart and dont even care if anyone like them.

Actually AB III was definitely not an album written for the masses to be a commodity... they used their own money to fund it because that's what they wanted to do. Alter Bridge is definitely not a band for the masses, as shown by the fact that 3 albums in, coming off a commerical giant like Creed, they still aren't very mainstream, play small shows, etc.

Regardless of what you think about the final product, Alter Bridge definitely wrote their songs "from the heart" and don't care whether people like them. Surely it's just as bad to compromise what you want to write for the sake of getting people who demand "risky" songs to like them as it is to compromise what you want to write to get people who want the same thing over and over to like them? I'd rather Alter Bridge just keep writing whatever they want without deliberately trying to please radio listeners or without trying to please critics who want to see them be experimental. When / if they want to change their sound I have no doubt they will, but until then I'm happy they are writing what they want and not giving into either commerical or critical pressure, and am happy that what they want to write just happens to me among my favourite music.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on January 11, 2011, 11:18:11 AM
I don't think the style repetition has anything to do with storytelling. Because they weren't telling the same story on the last two albums or all 5 or whatever creed albums, yet the style is on every single one of those CD's, a lot.


And I haven't put AB3 on my Ipod yet, I keep meaning to, but the CD's in my car and I keep forgetting to take it with me when I get out.

No idea. That was my own guess, throwing that out there. Again, song structure isn't something I pay much attention to, so you're probably correct. I don't base my enjoyment whether or not songs are structured (or are not structured) in a certain way. I base it off of how much I like the singer, the lyrics, the riffs and the melodies. Those are the first things I pick up and really define whether or not I dig something.

The one thing I do know is that they said that they didn't have a lot of time to work on the songs, and while I think it worked wonderfully, perhaps if they do it differently the next time and allow for some time to make some more "ear candy" they might mess around with song structures. But to me, funny time signatures and varied song structures are what prog bands do, and AB isn't a prog band. They are very much a mainstream hard rock band. But with a guy like Myles Kennedy and his jazz background in the band, I have to believe they'll probably start messing with other elements of their sound in the future.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: j on January 11, 2011, 01:32:57 PM
I like some prog music, just like I like some music from every genre, but I wouldn't call myself a "prog fan".  Most of it doesn't interest me, and I didn't even know what it was 'til a couple years ago.  And I know next to nothing about music, so it's not like I'm listening for certain complexities or minutiae to be present or whatever.

But there is *something* (or things) that are there in the vast majority of ABIII, and in many AB songs from their other two albums.  Whether it's song structure, rhythmic or melodic similarities, stuff being in the same key, some combination of those, or something completely different, I don't know.  But it has nothing to do with being averse to "mainstream" music; some of my favorite bands/albums are "mainstream".

I enjoy ABIII, it has some awesome moments.  I like it lyrically and thematically.  But there's not enough variety throughout musically IMO. *shrug*  It's still a pretty good album.

-J
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on January 17, 2011, 05:03:41 PM
If ya'll didn't know, Alter Bridge: Live From Amsterdam is now released!!! I just ordered the Blu-Ray version  :metal :metal :metal

http://www.amazon.com/Live-Amsterdam-Blu-ray-Alterbridge/dp/B0037VF4CI/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1295309004&sr=8-3
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on January 18, 2011, 10:59:12 AM
I bought the Blu-ray on the first go-around. Now I have to shell out for the CD/DVD version so I can get the audio. So annoying. I never do this for bands I am a hardcore fan of, but I may wait and just get the CD/DVD version used, so I can not spend all the money.

I realize it isn't AB's fault, but they could have put on some additional material onto these new versions of everything (the Blu-ray is exactly the same) to make it worth it.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on January 25, 2011, 10:39:46 PM
"I Know It Hurts" had been officially announced as the second single for everywhere except the United States. It probably will be the second single in the US, but because "Isolation" has become a monster on the rock waves (it's been the number 1 song 3 weeks in a row), they might hold out on releasing it until it starts dying down
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Perpetual Change on January 25, 2011, 10:59:39 PM
The kind of commercial "every song is the same" rock is not the only way you can rock and still be rich and famous. Led Zeppelin IV would like a word with everyone. In fact, "every song is the same" doesn't sell or make you more likely to be successful in the mainstream. Alter Bridge are a great example of why not, as they cater to the mainstream yet aren't really part of it. Because in order for "everyone song sounds the same" to work, you also have to be kissing ass to whatever the big trend in music is currently, which they don't do. Alter Bridge, instead, bow down to the big trend that was happening in rock music like 10+ years ago.

In fact, this commercial "every song is the same" rock has a special term: "butt-rock." A band can be successful and not be butt-rock (every Pearl Jam song was NOT the same, but butt-rock like Creed and Nickelback came in and rode their success out). The same goes for the glam bands of the 80s, and one day we ought to use it to describe all these emo and metalcore bands. A certain new genre of rock music comes out that “wow's" everyone, and then half a decade or so later there's a slew of butt-rock bands ready to cater to an audience that just wants to hear more.

The problem with Alter Bridge is that they're almost butt-rock. The thing that sets them apart is usually there's enough innovation and originality going on for them to not be so. The other thing that sets them off is that they're not really commercially successful, and seem to cater mainly to 1.) guitar players and 2.) those who truly had faith in the butt-rock of the late 90s. Now that the Creeds/Nickelbacks/ Doors Downs/Bush's/Defaults/Stainds have been swept away and their fanbases are buying the latest Lady Gaga album, only the most pious of butt-rockers are still hanging on. They have been hiding in the backdrop, waiting patiently for a band like Alter Bridge to come around and give them the best of what their favorite genre had to offer. And now Alter Bridge are here. But their scene, the late 90s butt-rock scene, is gone. And so they're able to thrive, being somewhat unique because no-one wants to play that music anymore. Because all that's left of it now is, obviously, Alter Bridge.

And listen, guys, I like Alter Bridge. A lot. But the last album needed some spicing up. It's the lack of anything out of the ordinary that bothers me. The songs that are really good are really good, but there's nothing "Blackbird" quality about the album that says to me these guys are shooting for more than style on this one. I've heard whispers about the theme and all, and while I'm sure it's there, it's just not apparent enough or strong enough to bump the album up from being more than an average collection of 90s rock songs, with some really good ones and some not so good ones.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on January 26, 2011, 09:24:58 AM
Alter Bridge isn't even close to "butt-rock."

Butt-rock, how I understand the undefined term, has more to do with the lyrics (aka Nickelback's "I like your pants around your feet" or Buckcherry's "Crazy Bitch")

C'mon now. PC.


Acc -- that song "I Know it Hurts" is a damn good choice. It's more hard rock, and even touches upon Mayfield Four's sound a bit, which should open things up even further for them.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on January 26, 2011, 04:12:12 PM
p.s. ACC - who is the woman singing with Myles in "Never Born to Follow?"

Can't find any info on that.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: PixelDream on January 27, 2011, 02:22:55 PM
The kind of commercial "every song is the same" rock is not the only way you can rock and still be rich and famous. Led Zeppelin IV would like a word with everyone. In fact, "every song is the same" doesn't sell or make you more likely to be successful in the mainstream. Alter Bridge are a great example of why not, as they cater to the mainstream yet aren't really part of it. Because in order for "everyone song sounds the same" to work, you also have to be kissing ass to whatever the big trend in music is currently, which they don't do. Alter Bridge, instead, bow down to the big trend that was happening in rock music like 10+ years ago.

In fact, this commercial "every song is the same" rock has a special term: "butt-rock." A band can be successful and not be butt-rock (every Pearl Jam song was NOT the same, but butt-rock like Creed and Nickelback came in and rode their success out). The same goes for the glam bands of the 80s, and one day we ought to use it to describe all these emo and metalcore bands. A certain new genre of rock music comes out that “wow's" everyone, and then half a decade or so later there's a slew of butt-rock bands ready to cater to an audience that just wants to hear more.

The problem with Alter Bridge is that they're almost butt-rock. The thing that sets them apart is usually there's enough innovation and originality going on for them to not be so. The other thing that sets them off is that they're not really commercially successful, and seem to cater mainly to 1.) guitar players and 2.) those who truly had faith in the butt-rock of the late 90s. Now that the Creeds/Nickelbacks/ Doors Downs/Bush's/Defaults/Stainds have been swept away and their fanbases are buying the latest Lady Gaga album, only the most pious of butt-rockers are still hanging on. They have been hiding in the backdrop, waiting patiently for a band like Alter Bridge to come around and give them the best of what their favorite genre had to offer. And now Alter Bridge are here. But their scene, the late 90s butt-rock scene, is gone. And so they're able to thrive, being somewhat unique because no-one wants to play that music anymore. Because all that's left of it now is, obviously, Alter Bridge.

And listen, guys, I like Alter Bridge. A lot. But the last album needed some spicing up. It's the lack of anything out of the ordinary that bothers me. The songs that are really good are really good, but there's nothing "Blackbird" quality about the album that says to me these guys are shooting for more than style on this one. I've heard whispers about the theme and all, and while I'm sure it's there, it's just not apparent enough or strong enough to bump the album up from being more than an average collection of 90s rock songs, with some really good ones and some not so good ones.

Exactly the way I feel about Alter Bridge. I like them too, played their music a lot (I must say I liked Creed during My Own Prison and Human Clay), and I feel that AB is indeed 'that' sound, but way better, better vocalist and more interesting songs. And there are ripping guitar solos of course. But that aside, the songs really are a lot better. There are moments during the Blackbird record where they sound really pure within their 'commercial' brand of a rockstyle that is long gone.

I went to see them in concert, and it was great actually. But the new album; indeed. It's good, but it's too much of the same. The most inventive moment of the record is the opening of the opening track! I wish they did more with that. Sends shivers down my spine. And that's what this band can do, no matter the 'same formula' problem. Myles is great, and Mark is too.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on January 27, 2011, 03:11:31 PM
While I will preach the qualities of Alter Bridge to anyone who will listen, the latest live release is really ridiculous.

I know there were mess ups earlier where it got released, but then distribution was held up, etc. But they are doing exactly what other bands are doing now. Releasing a Blu-ray, but then only releasing the audio CDs of the show with a DVD set. So they are forcing you to buy two products. Not only that, with Live in Amsterdam, they shortened the performance on the audio CD, cutting like four songs.

Complete and utter BS. 

I had the Blu-ray during the first release earlier this year, and had the CD/DVD set in my hand today and couldn't pull the trigger. Just wasn't worth it for a shortened version of the show.

The shortened version aside, a lot of bands are now doing this...releasing the Blu-ray by itself, and then packaging the CDs with the DVD release...and not making the audio for sale digitally. And bands/labels wonder why people steal music. Because of bullshit tactics like this.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: bosk1 on January 27, 2011, 03:15:18 PM
I had the Blu-ray during the first release earlier this year, and had the CD/DVD set in my hand today and couldn't pull the trigger. Just wasn't worth it for a shortened version of the show.

I hear you.  HOWEVER, the CD/DVD set is only $15.99, which wouldn't be a bad price to pay just for the CD's alone.  The DVD is almost like a throw-in.  So you should have just gotten it (I would have if I had gone with you--sorry I missed the call by the way).
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Scard on January 28, 2011, 12:10:47 AM
Honestly, if it wasn't for the great vocalist and the guitar riffs that are a bit more technical and exciting than the generic rock riffs of today, I'd probably right Alter Bridge off. But because of these things, I find them above the norm of 90s rock.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on January 28, 2011, 10:46:19 AM
I had the Blu-ray during the first release earlier this year, and had the CD/DVD set in my hand today and couldn't pull the trigger. Just wasn't worth it for a shortened version of the show.

I hear you.  HOWEVER, the CD/DVD set is only $15.99, which wouldn't be a bad price to pay just for the CD's alone.  The DVD is almost like a throw-in.  So you should have just gotten it (I would have if I had gone with you--sorry I missed the call by the way).

But the CD is SHORTENED. It is not the full show. I'll tell you what. If you want the DVD, lets buy it. I'll take the CD and the liner booklet, you take teh DVD and the box it comes in. And we'll split the price.

Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Perpetual Change on January 29, 2011, 02:29:50 AM
Not to change the topic, but Mark Tremonti solo album in the works. Sounds awesome!

http://www.freegotham.com/podcasts/tremonti_interview_2_use.mp3

 :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal

Also: no new Creed this year!

 :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on February 01, 2011, 09:23:26 PM
p.s. ACC - who is the woman singing with Myles in "Never Born to Follow?"

Can't find any info on that.

I believe that is Myles. Just another layered vocal track on the song.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on February 02, 2011, 10:09:16 AM
Wow. He went REALLY high then.

On a side note, anyone know the pre-sale PW for the San Francisco Alter Bridge show? Would love to score tix for the gig on Friday, so I don't have to worry about Sunday.

Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on February 03, 2011, 01:53:59 PM
Anyone know what the pre-sale password is for the San Francisco show? SF goes on sale via pre-sale tomorrow, and to the public on Sunday. Problem is, no one seems to know who the pre-sale is for!

:(
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on February 04, 2011, 02:22:21 PM
Got the password and scored my tickets!!!!    :metal

Going for the laid back positioning this time. In Seattle, I was on the rail, between Mark and Myles. This time, going to chill right in front of the soundboard.  :corn
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: sylvan on February 05, 2011, 06:57:55 AM
Got the password and scored my tickets!!!!    :metal

Going for the laid back positioning this time. In Seattle, I was on the rail, between Mark and Myles. This time, going to chill right in front of the soundboard.  :corn

The laid back approach is a good one.  The first AB show I went to (their first show ever) I took my shirt off as soon as I got out the door because I was absolutely soaked in sweat.  I had never rocked that hard in my life.  But, I saw a show in Orlando and stood at the back of the recessed floor area, against the rails with nobody relatively close to me.  It was very comfortable. Not a bad idea to lean back, relax, grab a drink, and enjoy the show.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on February 07, 2011, 10:17:07 AM
I taped the Blackbird tour back by the soundboard in Spokane (well, it was below the soundboard, I think the soundboard was elevated and I was on the floor). Enjoyed it a ton. Loved Seattle, but yeah, it got a little exhausting. So I am looking forward to kicking back on this one. I'll be in SF this time, and will be at the Giants-Braves game beforehand, so I am not going to want to be front row on the rail. Just want a brew and kick back.

Stoked that LIke a Storm and Black Stone Cherry are opening.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on February 27, 2011, 12:19:10 PM
Sam, how was the show?



Also, here' the episode of Rusty Cooley's GUitar Asylum with Mark Tremonti!

http://guitarasylumtv.blogspot.com/2011/02/mark-tremonti-episode-is-here.html?spref=fb
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on March 08, 2011, 02:23:29 PM
The 2nd US single has been confirmed, and it's Ghosts Of Days Gone By. I think it's an excellent choice, but being me, i rather they had gone with a harder single single, seeing how Isolation did so well (being the number 1 rock single for nearly a month). I Know It Hurts would've been my ideal choice, or Coeur D' Alene, but i like GODGB as a single
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on March 24, 2011, 04:48:02 PM
Here's a webisode the band is starting to do! This DC3 crew must really love this band to do all this video stuff for them. Live From Amsterdam was an awesome live DVD/Blu-ray

http://www.alterbridge.com/media/videos/youtube/alter-bridge-january-2011-webisode.aspx
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on April 20, 2011, 01:54:52 PM
Holy shit, there's a string quartet tribute for Alter Bridge!!!!


Metalingus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XLZQtVUPF4&feature=relmfu

Slip To The Void
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-uMfGMoM7w&feature=relmfu

Isolation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRH4MqEscZc&feature=relmfu

Ghosts Of Days Gone By
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhIXWLHpMxw&feature=related

Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Blackbird on April 29, 2011, 10:31:52 AM
Wow.  That's cool.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on June 14, 2011, 11:01:15 PM
The boys are over in Europe playing the festivals now. They just played at Pink Pop. I have to share the video of GODGB. What a fucking great performance!!!

http://youtu.be/U94vJMNvuQg
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on July 15, 2011, 09:35:19 PM
Sorry for the bump....

but Alter Bridge is stepping up to a new level for me. I have been kinda a fan for a couple years (my buddy's band covered Find The Real... I looked them up... acquired first album...


and then acquired 2nd album. Listened to both a few times. Whatever.

III comes out. bought it on itunes the day it came out. listened a few times.

Now I am revisiting the second album again and...

(whats the code for the exploding head?)



editz



:splodetard:

thanks gadough
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Gadough on July 15, 2011, 09:43:01 PM
(whats the code for the exploding head?)

:splodetard:
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: sylvan on November 01, 2011, 07:38:21 AM
Alter Bridge filming new live DVD at UK shows

(http://www.andertons.co.uk/@@STORETEMPLATE/images/award-logos/total_guitar.jpg)

That's if nerves don't get the better of them...

TG's cover stars Mark Tremonti and Myles Kennedy have revealed plans to film shows on their massive November arena tour for a future DVD release.

If you're planning on attending our cover stars' biggest UK shows to date in November you may want to brush up – you could end up featuring on the next Alter Bridge DVD.

"We'll be filming some of the shows," guitarist Mark Tremonti tells us, "especially Wembley and a handful of others."

And even though he's been honing his chops alongside singer/guitarist Myles Kennedy in the heavy rockers for seven years now, the idea of being filmed still makes him very nervous indeed. Hence the reason more than one show is being filmed.

"It's a tremendous amount of pressure when you see those cameras being put up all over the room," he admits. "If you don't have a good show you'll be down on yourself for a year afterwards! Just in case it would be good to film something else. Also because we can play some songs on another night that we might not be able to fit into the set of the Wembley show."

With the trek already underway in mainland Europe, the band have already started playing two fan favourites from their 2004 debut that haven't been played since 2005; //The End Is Here// and //Down To My Last//.

"We'll mix it up," promises Mark of the setlist for the UK shows, "a mix of the three records and hopefully play some stuff that we haven't done in the past. Pull out some oldies that we haven't played in a while and see which ones sound best on the tour so we can hopefully record those for the DVD."

Check out Total Guitar issue 221 (on sale 31 October to 27 November) for an exclusive interview with Mark and Myles as they reflect on their long, hard road to success with Alter Bridge plus the full tab and story behind their classic song Blackbird.

(http://oi40.tinypic.com/27zk7cl.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Phoenix87x on November 01, 2011, 02:27:12 PM
Their 2nd album is absolutely incredible. I passionately love Brand New Start  :hefdaddy
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Heretic on November 01, 2011, 05:06:49 PM
While I love the 2nd album, I personally find the other two to be a tad bit more enjoyable, at least for me. ODR is one of my top albums ever.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: wolfking on November 01, 2011, 05:35:40 PM
lol, Myles looks fucked in that pic!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Basekick on December 11, 2011, 05:53:41 PM
Sorry for the bump, but I had to mention this.

I was listening to Alter Bridge on shuffle, and after I listened to All Hope Is Gone, it jumped to Breathe Again.

I would like to know everyone's else reaction after listening to the last 45 seconds of AHIG and then the first 30 seconds of Breathe Again.

Simple warning: don't drink coffee while you do this.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Nel on December 11, 2011, 08:43:19 PM
Sorry for the bump, but I had to mention this.

I was listening to Alter Bridge on shuffle, and after I listened to All Hope Is Gone, it jumped to Breathe Again.

I would like to know everyone's else reaction after listening to the last 45 seconds of AHIG and then the first 30 seconds of Breathe Again.

Simple warning: don't drink coffee while you do this.

Ooh, that was neat, if intentional.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: sylvan on December 12, 2011, 07:14:54 AM
I've never listened to those back-to-back before.  That's neato.  But for real, the end of AHIG is so freakin epic.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on December 15, 2011, 01:16:42 PM
Nice find. I never noticed that before. Incredibly cool.

Makes one wonder if they had the tracks back to back and then decided on a new track order that separated them.

Would also be interesting if it was meant as one whole song and then separated because the two halves are different.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Heretic on December 15, 2011, 09:01:39 PM
My album ranking is still One Day Remains > ABIII > Blackbird. Unlike everyone else, I don't find Blackbird to be the pinnacle of their career.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: wolfking on December 15, 2011, 09:08:14 PM
Blackbird is easily their best album IMO.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: sylvan on December 16, 2011, 01:56:47 PM
My album ranking is still One Day Remains > ABIII > Blackbird. Unlike everyone else, I don't find Blackbird to be the pinnacle of their career.

This.  And it is not a condemnation of Blackbird.  To me, Blackbird was the transition between One Day Remains and AB3.  I think they have reached the sound they were ultimately striving for.  But, One Day Remains is just too incredible.  It doesn't sound like any other bands and it screams "This was written by Mark Tremonti".  I also think the fact that this was the first album removed from Creed was part of what made ODR that much better.  With Blackbird and AB3, I had certain expectations.  Perhaps my expectations were too high, but not all of them were met with either album.  I think the world of these guys and love everything they do.  I am the definition of a "die-hard fan".  Perhaps too much so, as I fear I will never be fully satisfied with their work.  I think AB3 suffered most from the time crunch because the guys are doing so much.  It doesn't appear as if that will change anytime soon though.  In the end, I'll take whatever they give me.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: pogoowner on December 17, 2011, 10:22:57 AM
My album ranking is still One Day Remains > ABIII > Blackbird. Unlike everyone else, I don't find Blackbird to be the pinnacle of their career.
I actually rank them completely opposite.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: ZKX-2099 on December 18, 2011, 10:46:08 AM
Any info on the Tremonti solo release yet?
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Heretic on December 18, 2011, 01:55:42 PM
My album ranking is still One Day Remains > ABIII > Blackbird. Unlike everyone else, I don't find Blackbird to be the pinnacle of their career.
I actually rank them completely opposite.

Most fans of AB would. There's just something incredibly emotional and uplifting about One Day Remains that's always stood out to me, whereas ABIII is the exact opposite, being a hoard of dark, lost, and hopeless emotion, which makes for an amazing listen as well. Blackbird, while awesome, and while having a title track that sits as one of their best songs ever, doesn't exactly have the highs that the other two albums have for me.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: RuRoRul on December 18, 2011, 03:44:30 PM
My album ranking is still One Day Remains > ABIII > Blackbird. Unlike everyone else, I don't find Blackbird to be the pinnacle of their career.
I actually rank them completely opposite.
Same.

I actually like literally every Alter Bridge song but Blackbird does have a few of their weaker songs (Before Tomorrow Comes, Rise Today, Break Me Down) but apart from that every song is gold, a lot of the songs being among their best and including a few of their absolute best that there's a good chance they will never top (i.e. I think Blackbird will basically always be the best Alter Bridge song). AB III is great, maybe more consistent and has a lot of stuff in it but for the most part it doesn't beat the best of Blackbird.

The Blackbird songs are overplayed live though. I understand keeping some of them as basically permanent fixtures in the shows because they are among their best, but there's no need to keep playing so many songs from Blackbird. Was very disappointed last month when I saw them at Glasgow and they played Before Tomorrow Comes AGAIN (making it the 4th time I've seen it). Especially when they could have played Coeur D'Alene instead, which would have meant there was at least one song that I didn't see them play a year ago.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: sylvan on December 19, 2011, 06:47:32 AM
I agree that they should change up the setlist a little more often.  As for the Blackbird songs being played most often live, I just think it's a way to keep Myles more involved.  As we all know at this point, Myles is a guitarist, not just a vocalist that can strum some chords.  The man wants to play, and I don't blame him.  But yeah, I think they could slide a few more ODR songs into the mix.

Best AB show I've seen was their first ever live show as a band.  The whole ODR album + covers.  My single greatest music listening experience.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on December 20, 2011, 03:50:39 PM
I also agree the set list needs to vary a bit more. I saw the Seattle show on the AB III tour, and then also saw San Francisco. Other than one song, I believe it was exactly the same (SF got Show Me a Sign, I forget if it was an addition, or if something was dropped).

I realize that the guy have multiple bands, and not a lot of time to go back and learn (especially Myles) older stuff really well prior to getting together for a run of tour dates, but I hope they take some time to do that on their next record-tour cycle.

There are some songs from ODR that I'd love to hear (since they played nowhere in the Bay Area -- maybe except as an opener in San Jose on a weeknight on the ODR tour), since I missed that tour. It'd be nice to resurrect Burn it Down and The End is Here. I also thought while AB III was well represented, the songs most really wanted to hear live, they didn't do regularly.

Almost everyone I've talked to (including myself), wanted them to do Words Darker Than Their Wings, and unless I'm mistaken, it was never performed, or if it was, just once on the European swing to close the tour. Show Me a Sign was a sporadic entry into the set list, and C'ouer D'Alaine (bad spelling, I know) didn't become regular until the last European leg.

Hello?

AB III was well represented, but some variety in WHAT was played from that record, particularly songs (like the three I mentioned above that most people wanted to hear) would have been nice.

Anyway, been a fan of AB since ODR came out, and they have been my favorite band since Blackbird. The chemistry between Tremonti and Kennedy as guitar players really reminds me of the connection Degarmo and Wilton had with Queensryche and obviously, Kennedy's soaring tenor, while not as good as Tate in his prime, is a great voice that I really gravitate to.

Just a killer band. Here's hoping the time they spend apart for Slash and Creed is fun, but goes by quickly (I am a fan of both, but love AB much, much more).
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: RuRoRul on December 20, 2011, 04:16:07 PM
I agree that they should change up the setlist a little more often.  As for the Blackbird songs being played most often live, I just think it's a way to keep Myles more involved.  As we all know at this point, Myles is a guitarist, not just a vocalist that can strum some chords.  The man wants to play, and I don't blame him.  But yeah, I think they could slide a few more ODR songs into the mix.

Best AB show I've seen was their first ever live show as a band.  The whole ODR album + covers.  My single greatest music listening experience.
It's not so much more ODR songs that I think should replace them (there are a lot of staples from that album too, I'd maybe like to see some of the less played songs but mainly just The End Is Here) but AB III ones, and Myles played guitar on that album too. Several songs on the album haven't even been played yet, some have only been played a few times and there are often more Blackbird songs than AB III despite it being the more recent album. The Glasgow show I was at last month, I believe, literally was the same show they played in Glasgow last year except with a few songs taken out (and AB III songs too, rather than the more over-played Blackbird ones; All Hope Is Gone, Still Remains, and Show Me A Sign). It was still a great show but it would have been nice to get Coeur D'alene or WORDS DARKER THAN THEIR WINGS (I spoke to Mark Tremonti at the Glasgow show (which was the one right before Wembley) and he said they might be playing it at the end of their Wembley DVD show... they didn't  :().

Of course, it's weird for me to be complaining that they're playing too many songs from the album I think is their best... but since they have played them all before I do think limiting it to maybe one or two essentials (including Blackbird) and varying the others, while focusing more on playing some of the less played songs from AB III or ODR.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Samsara on December 23, 2011, 08:50:48 AM
What I'd like to see from the fourth AB album is for Myles and Mark to step up the guitar interplay. Myles is a GREAT guitar player, and the two compliment each other extremely well.

I think they really need to expand the guitar intricacy and obviously, that would accomplish the goal of having Myles play more live too.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: wolfking on December 23, 2011, 01:54:45 PM
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=167565

LTER BRIDGE played one of the biggest headline shows of its career on November 29 at Wembley Arena in London, England and all of it was captured for the band's forthcoming DVD, "Live At Wembley". The 2D version (complete with a live CD) will be released everywhere in late March whiule the 3D version will come out in the summer of 2012. The 2D version will also air on TV all over the world in February. Longtime ALTER BRIDGE director Daniel E Catullo III ("Live From Amsterdam", "One By One", "Isolation", webisodes, etc.) was brought in to direct "Live At Wembley" by The Dude Films, a new production and distribution company with offices in Laguna Beach, California and Maui, Hawaii headed up by "One By One" executive producer Stuart Margolis and executive producer Chris LaBabera. Lionel Pasamonte, who produced the band's last DVD, "Live From Amsterdam", is producing with Catullo.

ALTER BRIDGE's setlist for the Wembley show was as follows:

01. Slip To The Void
02. Find The Real
03. Ghost Of Days Gone By
04. Before Tomorrow Comes
05. Come To Life
06. All Hope Is Gone
07. White Knuckles
08. Brand New Start
09. Metalingus
10. Broken Wings
11. I Know It Hurts
12. One Day Remains
13. Coeur D'Alene
14. Buried Alive
15. Blackbird
16. Wonderful Life (Acoustic Version)
17. Watch Over You (Acoustic Version)
18. Ties That Bind
19. Isolation

Encore:

20. Open Your Eyes
21. Dueling Guitar Solos - Mark and Myles
22. Rise Today

ALTER BRIDGE drummer Scott Phillips told Stereoboard that it's unlikely fans will hear from the band again until 2013, but that they shouldn't take that as a bad sign. Phillips explained, "We'll certainly be visible next year, but it'll be on various projects and then probably 2013 will be the reunion there of ALTER BRIDGE and we'll diligently get to work on a new record and tour as soon as we can."

ALTER BRIDGE spent much of 2011 on the road behind its last album, "AB III", but 2012 will see singer Myles Kennedy return to work as the lead singer in Slash's band, while the other three members of the group will reunite with vocalist Scott Stapp for a new CREED tour and album.

Phillips said, "Each of us have our own thing. I think we've got a lot of different paths we're heading on in 2012," adding that in addition to working with CREED, guitarist Mark Tremonti is prepping his first solo album for release.

Earlier this fall, ALTER BRIDGE released a special edition of "AB III" featuring three previously unheard songs and an hour-long documentary on the group's career.


(http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/soulflypremiere/alterbridgewembley.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: pogoowner on December 23, 2011, 10:45:21 PM
I wish Creed would just die already. But that's just me.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: wolfking on December 23, 2011, 11:05:42 PM
I really, really enjoyed Full Circle, but I'd rather take Alter Bridge.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: sylvan on December 24, 2011, 07:48:27 AM
What I'd like to see from the fourth AB album is for Myles and Mark to step up the guitar interplay. Myles is a GREAT guitar player, and the two compliment each other extremely well.

I totally agree.  And I think that to make that happen, they have to devote more time to the writing process instead of trying to fit it in between several other projects.

I'm super excited to see the Wembley gig though.  I hope that "all over the world" means it will be aired on Palladium as much as Live from Amsterdam is.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Heretic on December 24, 2011, 11:15:02 AM
I thought Full Circle was incredibly boring and I'd rather see them focus their time on AB, but hey, what can you do.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Ghost on December 24, 2011, 11:30:27 AM
I actually much prefer Full Circle over ABIII. Creed doesn't get enough credit when compared to Alter Bridge. ABIII was quite disappointing for me (keep in mind that I'm a huge Myles Kennedy fanboy).
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on January 05, 2012, 12:48:43 PM
The trailer for Alter Bridge: Live At Wembley is up!

http://vimeo.com/34599965


Just look at that quality!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on January 15, 2012, 04:49:50 PM
So I officially got my friend hooked on Alter Bridge :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread
Post by: Accelerando on January 21, 2012, 12:49:33 PM
Preview for "Alter Bridge: Live At Wembley", performing Couer D' Alene

http://youtu.be/8zabKw3X1L8

Myles vocals are just Godly


So I officially got my friend hooked on Alter Bridge :metal

Hell yeah  :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. "Live At Wembley"
Post by: Samsara on January 23, 2012, 02:22:16 PM
Can't wait for this. So much good stuff out on this day.

A little annoyed AB is doing the "lets put out a CD without the whole show on it" again. But otherwise, can't wait for the Blu-ray!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. "Live At Wembley"
Post by: Accelerando on March 27, 2012, 03:39:47 PM
Got it!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/tremontidood/Photoon2012-03-27at1733.jpg)

The picture quality is amazing!!!. I'm only on third song in ("Ghosts..."), but so far the concert is really good. Wembley Arena looks massive. AB is definitely a live band, and you can tell they love performing. Full review soon.


ps. I purchased a Samsung SMART TV this past month. 240hz. This makes the concert look super real.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. "Live At Wembley"
Post by: sylvan on March 28, 2012, 06:52:01 AM
I'm still waiting for a local store to get it in stock.  I listened to LFA yesterday to hold me over and I was reminded just how awesome of a concert that was.  They'll have a hard time topping that.  This will be my first blu-ray concert dvd though and I'm really excited to watch it on my new 82" Mitsubishi DLP.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. "Live At Wembley"
Post by: Accelerando on March 30, 2012, 10:35:24 AM
I've watched it three times now. Such an amazing show. Myles vocals are just top notch live in this one. I haven't been to an Alter Bridge show since 2008 when they played literally a mile away from my college in downtown St. Petersburg, Fl. They haven't played in FL at all for their ABIII tour  :-\
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. "Live At Wembley"
Post by: Adami on March 30, 2012, 10:47:01 AM
I wasn't overly impressed with their last DVD, they seemed to have sped all of their songs way the hell up and Myles skipped a ton of high notes.


I assume this DVD doesn't have those problems?
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. "Live At Wembley"
Post by: ReaperKK on March 30, 2012, 03:13:25 PM
I've watched it three times now. Such an amazing show. Myles vocals are just top notch live in this one. I haven't been to an Alter Bridge show since 2008 when they played literally a mile away from my college in downtown St. Petersburg, Fl. They haven't played in FL at all for their ABIII tour  :-\

Didn't they play at State Theatre? Or was that when One Days Remains released, I remember wanting to see them at State Theatre but I can't remember what tour it was.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. "Live At Wembley"
Post by: Accelerando on March 30, 2012, 10:46:19 PM
I wasn't overly impressed with their last DVD, they seemed to have sped all of their songs way the hell up and Myles skipped a ton of high notes.

I assume this DVD doesn't have those problems?

AB has been notorious for having their songs sped up live. With "Live From Amsterdam", I think that came with the adrenaline of having their first live performance filmed for dvd.  The "Live At Wembley" is 10x better, with a stronger overall musicianship. Myles hits the high notes, especially on Ghost of Days Gone By. The live songs are played at normal speed san Ties That Bind, they sped up on that. I blame their rhythm section on that. However, this is much more mature and entertaining performance.

Oh, Myles also had cut all that "That's right" and "Come on" shits he did in Amsterdam. That probably came from him performing with Slash, who probably told him to chill the fuck out with that

Im gonna write a review on it and post it. Keep an eye out.

Didn't they play at State Theatre? Or was that when One Days Remains released, I remember wanting to see them at State Theatre but I can't remember what tour it was.

Probably the One Day Remains tour. They toured a lot in FL back then. The Blackbird tour made a stop at Jannus Landing in St. Petersburg, and i remember the night before they played at the Hard Rock in Orlando.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. "Live At Wembley"
Post by: Accelerando on April 03, 2012, 11:41:59 PM
Ok, here's my review. Im also going to post it in the Review topics.

Alter Bridge - Live At Wembley


I am to write this review, with conviction of being a super fan, without flaunting appraisement. However, it is quite difficult from being one of the first people in the world to see this great band perform live for their very first concert on September 8th, 2004 at a very small House of Blues venue in Orlando, Fl. I’ve seen them four times in concert, met them countless times, and had the pleasure of buying them a beer and just talking.  These guys are the most friendly, down to earth rockers I’ve ever met.

If you had told Mark Tremonti, Myles Kennedy, Brian Marshall, and Scott Phillips back in 2004, that in 8 years that would be playing a headlining gig at Wembley Arena, they would think you were crazy. They would probably say that it’s a dream gig.

On November 29th, 2011, that dream came true as they rounded out their European Tour. Not only did they play at Wembley, they down right sold it out.

Daniel Catullo III returns to direct and orchestrate an epic concert for the quartet. In 2009, he filmed their first ever concert film at the Heineken Music Hall in Amsterdam. “Live From Amsterdam” was overwhelmingly successful. On it’s release date, it raised 15,000 spots on Amazon’s “Best Sellers in Music Videos and Concerts” and became #1 in eight hours, raising ahead the like Michael Jackson and Bon Jovi. This feat was done without promotion for the concert film.

“Live From Amsterdam” was a very good first effort for a concert film. All four members have been in the music industry for at least 15 years, and none of them ever had dozens of cameras filming them for a live concert film. Yet, they produced a high-energy performance, which is what you’d expect from an Alter Bridge concert. That concert, however, Myles Kennedy was sick, and vocally was not par for his 4-octave range. He sang nasally and low to try to preserve his voice (this was revealed in the documentary for “Live At Wembley”). The production of the actual concert film was excellent. All the high quality shots made this a very appealing concert film.

Whatever negative things happened in Amsterdam is non-existent for “Live At Wembley.” This is a near perfect Alter Bridge concert. The only one that tops is when I saw them at the Jannus Landing venue in St. Petersburg, FL. And I only top it because I was there. Dually note my selfishness, because I really wish I had experienced their show at Wembley.

The concert starts with the eerie vocals delivered by Myles Kennedy, with an echoing keyboard intro to “Slip To The Void”. The band kicks into over drive from there on out with the wail of Mark Tremonti’s guitar.

And you know that nasally thing I was telling you about from Amsterdam show? Forget about it, because Myles is spot on, hitting all his high notes and showing off that 4-octave range, especially on their performance of “Ghost of Days Gone By”. He holds a note that was just as long as it does on album. He proves himself as the best singer in rock and roll today just with this live concert film.

Some of the highlight performances include “All Hope Is Gone”, which is probably my favorite song off the film. Everything meshes perfectly on this one. Myles starts the song by getting the crowd to join him in some “Oohs”, and then Mark begins that clean tone pirate riff. What makes the song my favorite is just the tone of musicianship from these guys. This epic from AB III is just the perfect song for this band to perform live.

Speaking of epics, you cannot go wrong with their best and most beloved song, “Blackbird.” Every performance I’ve seen them do of Blackbird, it’s like the planets align. The band embraces the moment; the emotion of the song encompasses each band member, and delivers a song to remember to those attending the concert.

Mark Tremonti’s guitar playing is ridiculous. He performs with such intensity, and you know he’s having a good time. His solo on “Brand New Start” to me is his best solo, and he does it live just as good or better than on record. His solo in “Cour D'Alene” is pretty amazing with improvisation to go along with it. His “Open Your Eyes” solo is almost legendary; it’s the solo that made it ok for radio stations to air the guitar solo portions of songs that disappeared in the 90’s. Boy, that solo. Blistering fast, and humbling balanced and controlled. And on this night, he improvised with a new ending. He does get carried away in a few songs where he’s shredding way too fast, specifically the dueling guitar solos between him and Myles before they play their final song. No slam against my favorite musician, but Myles kicked his ass in that solo contest. I’ve seen Mark shred and solo to perfection live, and he can do much better than that.

Scott Phillips drumming is fantastic. He’s one of the best pocket drummers in the business. He doesn’t have a specific sound. He doesn’t have the chops to be technical or to stand out. However, he plays for song, and he does well. He shines in “Metalingus”

And let’s not forget the most underrated bassist today. Brian Marshall shows off his chops in this concert and stands out. Alter Bridge is a very guitar driven band, but Brian has excellent bass line. It’s very apparent on “One Day Remains”, but I blame this on the mixing on “Blackbird” and “AB III” on their producer, Elvis Baskett. The one thing I don’t like about the last two albums is the mixing. It simply does not justify Alter Bridge. Brian’s performance on “I Know It Hurts”, “Metalingus”, and “Rise Today” are awesome.

One of the magical moments of the show is when Myles grabbed an acoustic guitar and sang “Wonderful Life” and “Watch Over You” in front of 10,000 people with their cell phones lit up. It was a fantastic performance vocally by Myles. Acoustics compliment his soulful vocal style (Go and find his BoFest performances on YouTube).

The concert ends with “Open Yours Eyes” and “Rise Today”, which is fitting not because those are their two most successful songs, but because they are fueled with inspiration and adrenaline. The crowd is into it. They are singing on top of their lungs with Myles.

The concert films comes in two forms: There’s a 3 disc CD/DVD package, which comes with the audio cd, the concert dvd, and an hour long documentary called “Road To Wembley.” The other form is a 2 disc Blu-Ray/CD package that includes everything listed from the prior version.

I urge you: To those who own a blu-ray player, it would be a disservice to you not to buy the blu-ray, especially if you own those fancy LED/LCD tvs. The quality is amazingly clear and precise, with great fine detail, contrast, and solid black levels.

The documentary is a fun and informative feature about the band while they are on their European tour. Fans get to learn some things about Alter Bridge that we may not have know before. For example, Myles Kennedy gets sick. Very easily. He explains that when he gets sick, his voice loses all power and it gets the sound you heard on Amsterdam, which is why he changes the melody.

I don’t own or watch a lot of live concert films, but “Live At Wembley” is probably going to be my favorite. This is what Alter Bridge is all about. The level of musicianship that band shares with the fans is unbelievable, and was giving out so much energy. Better still, if you are still new to Alter Bridge, or heard of them and wanted to dig into their stuff, you can watch this concert film and be completely seduced by it. This was a special night for both Alter Bridge and their fans, and they show once again they are one of the best rock artists with this concert film



1. Slip To The Void
2. Find The Real
3. Ghosts Of Days Gone By
4. Before Tomorrow Comes
5. Come To Life
6. All Hope Is Gone
7. White Knuckles
8. Brand New Start
9. Metalingus
10. Broken Wings
11. I Know It Hurts
12. One Day Remains
13. Cour D' Alene
14. Buried Alive
15. Blackbird
16. Wonderful Life
17. Watch Over You
18. Ties That Bind
19. Isolation
20. Open Your Eyes
21. Rise Today
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. "Live At Wembley"
Post by: wolfking on April 04, 2012, 04:04:44 AM
Good review.  I will pick this up when I see it instore I think.  I like the setlist, except I wish they added Coming Home.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. "Live At Wembley"
Post by: sylvan on April 04, 2012, 06:58:01 AM
However, it is quite difficult from being one of the first people in the world to see this great band perform live for their very first concert on September 8th, 2004 at a very small House of Blues venue in Orlando, Fl.

I had to double check and I don't have anyplace to upload a picture, but my ticket says Alter Bridge at Floyd's Music Store on Wed. September 1, 2004.  First ever live concert, although I heard they did a small set for some record execs before that, which isn't unbelievable.

Great review.  I've always thought that about Flip, he was built to drum with Tremonti.  I had to order it, but it was worth it to get the blu-ray I'm sure.  Should be here soon.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. "Live At Wembley"
Post by: RuRoRul on April 04, 2012, 11:44:42 AM
Watched the concert on Blu-ray a couple of days ago, I agree it is great and the performance is one of the best from Alter Bridge around this time. Interesting to see you agree with me on the best song from it - I would have picked All Hope Is Gone as well (well, obviously top songs like Blackbird, Ties That Bind, Slip and White Knuckles are good but All Hope Is Gone benefits most from the live performance here). I love how they do they first verse very soft on it, and the rest of it just seems to go perfectly. Disappointed that they didn't play that one or Coeur D'Alene at the Glasgow show 2 days before, which was basically the exact same gig with those songs omitted.

You can see me a couple of times in the documentary from when I met the band at Glasgow.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. "Live At Wembley"
Post by: Accelerando on April 04, 2012, 05:21:38 PM
I posted my review on the Reviews board, with some pics and links to vids!

http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=31770.0

I had to double check and I don't have anyplace to upload a picture, but my ticket says Alter Bridge at Floyd's Music Store on Wed. September 1, 2004.  First ever live concert, although I heard they did a small set for some record execs before that, which isn't unbelievable.

Was that an acoustic set? At HOB, Myles announced that night was their first show as a band
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. "Live At Wembley"
Post by: sylvan on April 05, 2012, 05:45:21 AM
I had to double check and I don't have anyplace to upload a picture, but my ticket says Alter Bridge at Floyd's Music Store on Wed. September 1, 2004.  First ever live concert, although I heard they did a small set for some record execs before that, which isn't unbelievable.

Was that an acoustic set? At HOB, Myles announced that night was their first show as a band

Nope, full live set.  They played the whole album plus covers.  I'm pretty sure Highway Star was one.  There were a few technical hiccups, but it was amazing.  Their second time at Floyd's in Tallahassee, FL, they played four songs from the Blackbird album which was not nearly complete yet, and one of the songs was being played live for the first time.  It was the original version of Come to Life or Buried Alive, I can't remember which one because it was nearly a year before I heard a different studio version.  I was also at their first Blackbird show at The Social which was a "last minute" addition to the tour.  Yet, they haven't played anywhere close to me since 2009 I think.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. "Live At Wembley"
Post by: Accelerando on April 07, 2012, 12:29:00 AM
Nope, full live set.  They played the whole album plus covers.  I'm pretty sure Highway Star was one.  There were a few technical hiccups, but it was amazing.  Their second time at Floyd's in Tallahassee, FL, they played four songs from the Blackbird album which was not nearly complete yet, and one of the songs was being played live for the first time.  It was the original version of Come to Life or Buried Alive, I can't remember which one because it was nearly a year before I heard a different studio version.  I was also at their first Blackbird show at The Social which was a "last minute" addition to the tour.  Yet, they haven't played anywhere close to me since 2009 I think.

Interesting. Myles was probably in the moment then haha. And yeah, they haven't played anywhere in FL since 09 too, I think. I saw em in August '08 in St. Pete. And with the other projects going on now, I don't think FL will see them until '13.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. "Live At Wembley"
Post by: LCArenas on April 28, 2012, 12:07:31 AM
Barely related to AB, but there's nowhere else to write this:

Listening right now to Myles' bands before Alter Bridge, I've always liked The Mayfield Four and now I'm discovering Citizen Swing. While most of the songs are not exactly my cup of tea there is definitely some Myles inside some of them. There's this song, "All of the Same" that I think ranks among one of the most sentimental songs I think Myles has ever sung. Reminds me of TM4's Fallout album. It's great. "Where are You" is pretty good as well, it sounds like TM4's "Don't Walk Away". And the way he sings Marvin Gaye's Inner City Blues... Wow. Boy he's hands down an amazing musician in everything he has ever been into (I didn't like the Slash material that much but even still there are some decent songs).
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. "Live At Wembley"
Post by: sylvan on May 10, 2012, 06:49:54 AM
I don't feel like starting a new thread just for this.

I saw Slash w/ Myles last night in Jacksonville.  Totally amazing show, Slash was rockin, and Myles was as good as I've ever seen him.  When he's not playing guitar, he really can focus on the vocals, and it shows.

Highlights:
Seeing the top hat center stage under the spot light playing a ~3 min. solo.  It was just iconic and total awesomeness.

We got a special one off version of "Simple Man" by Skynyrd.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. "Live At Wembley"
Post by: axeman90210 on May 11, 2012, 10:41:21 PM
Cool, I just bought a ticket today to see Slash and Myles in August. They're playing a venue that's maybe 2 miles from my house, couldn't pass it up.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. "Live At Wembley"
Post by: Adami on June 01, 2012, 08:01:23 PM
Finally watching the Wembley blu ray.

1. Myles sounds really good at this show and isn't phoning it in like the last show.

2. Tremonti is being awesome.

3. I want to kill Scott Phillips. Seriously, he is speeding up SO many songs. Also the production of his drums here suck. The kick drum is virtually absent, and the snare sounds just as terrible as it did on ABIII (which was one of my biggest complaints).

If they got a drummer who sounded good and played at the right speed it would be sooo much better. But it's still quite awesome.


EDIT: Watching the documentary now (didn't finish the show, I'll get back to it eventually). I gotta say that Myles is a much cooler person than I expected. Not sure why I expected a rock star douche, but he actually seems like the kind of guy I'd hang out with. I already knew Mark was awesome, and I still want to punch Scott Phillips in the face.
Title: Alter Bridge
Post by: nightmare_cinema on November 26, 2012, 11:41:17 AM
Sup

Couldn't find an existing thread for this.

Someone introduced me to this band about two weeks ago and I've barely listened to anything since, I'm talking hammering the songs every waking minute 500+ plays a week on last.fm kinda infatuation, I don't know if it'll grow into anything more but they have so many songs that are so fucking catchy. I never listened to Creed so it's all new to me...

Any fans? Or thoughts?
Title: Re: Alter Bridge
Post by: Dr. DTVT on November 26, 2012, 11:44:19 AM
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=10735.0 (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=10735.0)
Title: Re: Alter Bridge
Post by: Adami on November 26, 2012, 11:45:06 AM
I think I heard a rumor that our very own Accelerando is a little fond of them.


Myself, I'm a fan. I have all three of their CD's and both of their DVD's. They are indeed catchy as hell and their singer has an amazing voice. My only complaint is that they essentially only write 2-3 songs musically and just kind of change the vocals on them over time.
Title: Re: Alter Bridge
Post by: nightmare_cinema on November 26, 2012, 11:55:43 AM
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=10735.0 (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=10735.0)

Danke! Why would search NOT bring that up? :p
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. "Live At Wembley"
Post by: nightmare_cinema on November 26, 2012, 11:56:41 AM
I got into this band about two weeks ago, and seriously loving them right now. I can't bring myself to listen to anything but. Watched a friend's live at Wembley DVD the other night, would love to see them live.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. "Live At Wembley"
Post by: Cedar redaC on November 26, 2012, 11:58:42 AM
I got into them a few years ago, a couple of years before ABIII. I bought Blackbird and have been enjoying the band ever since. I still need to get physical copies of Blackbird and One Day Remains though. My collection feels incomplete. Somehow, this is a band that got me into Dream Theater.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. "Live At Wembley"
Post by: Adami on November 26, 2012, 12:10:09 PM
I think it was in the Tremonti thread, but I made a post where I went back and listened to every chorus AB had ever done (minus certain bonus tracks that I might not have had access to) and noticed that every single chorus musically was strumming chords in half time.

I think AB need a little more diversity in their music or else they're going to eventually fade away.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. "Live At Wembley"
Post by: XJDenton on November 26, 2012, 01:43:00 PM
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=10735.0 (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=10735.0)

Danke! Why would search NOT bring that up? :p

Dunno. In any case, threads merged.

And thanks to the report, I am now listening to these guys. I like the singer.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. "Live At Wembley"
Post by: RuRoRul on November 26, 2012, 02:00:28 PM
Alter Bridge have been my favourite band for a long time now - there are a couple of other bands I possibly like just as much these days but I usually would give my top spot to them since they've been one of my favourites since I first heard One Day Remains when it was released.

I'd like to see a bit more variety too, but the "same song" hyperbole is tiring. They have 40 something songs, even if the vast majority of those songs have the same basic structure and choruses with similar tempos...
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. "Live At Wembley"
Post by: OsMosis2259 on November 26, 2012, 02:58:28 PM
Great band. I've been listening to a lot of Tremonti/Alter Bridge a lot lately as well.

TOP 5 tracks:
Blackbird
Ties that Bind
Words Darker Than Their Wings
Find the Real
Show Me a Sign

Other Favorites:

Come to Life
Brand New Start
One by One
Watch Over You
Wayward One
Burn It Down
Metalingus
Down to My Last
Slip to the Void
Ghost of Days Gone By
Still Remains
Coeur d'Alene
Title: Re: Alter Bridge
Post by: OsMosis2259 on November 26, 2012, 03:01:50 PM
I think I heard a rumor that our very own Accelerando is a little fond of them.


Myself, I'm a fan. I have all three of their CD's and both of their DVD's. They are indeed catchy as hell and their singer has an amazing voice. My only complaint is that they essentially only write 2-3 songs musically and just kind of change the vocals on them over time.

I can't wait for a new Alter Bridge album to see a new Adami vs Accelerando battle.

I think there is an argument between you two in every Tremonti related thread  :)
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. "Live At Wembley"
Post by: Adami on November 26, 2012, 04:42:59 PM
Well despite me thinking they are repetitive and him thinking they could never possibly do anything less than perfect, we both usually end up enjoying the albums anyway, so it's all good. :)
Title: Re: Alter Bridge
Post by: sylvan on November 30, 2012, 06:41:52 AM
I can't wait for a new Alter Bridge album to see a new Adami vs Accelerando battle.

I wanna throw myself into battle and make it an Alter Bridge Fanatic Triangle of Death! :corn
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. "Live At Wembley"
Post by: OsMosis2259 on December 12, 2012, 06:14:50 PM
ALTER BRIDGE PLANNING NEW ALBUM + WORLD TOUR FOR 2013


Guitar great Mark Tremonti may have spent a good amount of 2012 engrossed in supporting his first solo album, but it looks like 2013 is all systems go for Alter Bridge.

According to a tweet posted by Tremonti yesterday (Dec. 11), the Alter Bridge brain trust of singer Myles Kennedy, drummer Scott ‘Flip’ Phillips and Tremonti met up with their management in sunny Florida to plan the immediate future of the band. Although specific details were not disclosed, AlterBridge.com has confirmed that the band’s 2013 schedule includes a new album and a world tour.

“Had a meeting today with Myles, Flip, our managers and myself. Starting to plan 2013!,” tweeted Tremonti, giving fans lots to be excited about. The only member seemingly missing was bassist Brian Marshall, who also had to duck out of touring with Tremonti earlier in the year citing personal reasons.

The news probably comes as a relief to Alter Bridge fans, providing confirmation that the band is alive and well. With frontman Myles Kennedy currently out on tour providing vocals for Slash while Tremonti tours Europe through February with his solo side project, it’s been a busy time for everyone juggling multiple creative endeavors.

Alter Bridge’s last studio offering was their third album, 2010’s ‘AB III.’ Tremonti has also been working on a new album with his longtime band Creed.

http://loudwire.com/alter-bridge-new-album-world-tour-2013/?utm_medium=twitter
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. "Live At Wembley"
Post by: Adami on December 12, 2012, 06:26:44 PM
Dunno about this. He just finished a solo album and I think I heard he either finished or was working on another Creed album. I really hope he still has good ideas. I also am hoping for a lot more diversity on this album.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. "Live At Wembley"
Post by: OsMosis2259 on December 12, 2012, 09:29:29 PM
After hearing the Tremonti record, I'm hoping that the drums will be more upfront. I know Scott Philips didn't play on that record but it was Michael Elvis Baskette behind the production who also produced the last 2 AB albums.

But even on the Projected record (project between Scott Philips, Erock and two members from Sevendust), the drums sounded a lot more massive than any of the AB records and Elvis was behind the production here as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73gb33xU_Go
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. "Live At Wembley"
Post by: Adami on December 12, 2012, 09:30:13 PM
After hearing the Tremonti record, I'm hoping that the drums will be more upfront. I know Scott Philips didn't play on that record but it was Michael Elvis Baskette behind the production who also produced the last 2 AB albums.

But even on the Projected record (project between Scott Philips, Erock and two members from Sevendust), the drums sounded a lot more massive than any of the AB records and Elvis was behind the production here as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73gb33xU_Go

Yes yes, production like Tremonti's album would be amazing. I was really disappointed with the drum sound on ABIII.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. "Live At Wembley"
Post by: yeshaberto on February 01, 2013, 04:12:09 PM
OK, whoever here was the one to urge me to check these guys out:

I owe you one free pass in p/r.

I have yet to hear a song I don't like, and I've been enjoying them for at least the last year or so.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. "Live At Wembley"
Post by: wolfking on February 01, 2013, 04:20:15 PM
I gotta admit, the Tremonti album is my fav album that Tremonti has done, meaning Creed and Alter Bridge, I love it.  Love his voice and love the songs.

Come at me.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. "Live At Wembley"
Post by: sylvan on February 02, 2013, 06:35:52 AM
I almost agree with that.  I personally think ODR is his best effort, but the Tremonti album gets mad play on my ipod.

I'm excited for their next album.  I've read that they want to do something different and "not sound like anyone else out there."  I just hope they take their time with the writing/production and schedule a live show in Florida.  No ABIII shows in Florida?  What's that about :censored ?
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. "Live At Wembley"
Post by: wolfking on February 03, 2013, 04:00:32 AM
I almost agree with that.  I personally think ODR is his best effort, but the Tremonti album gets mad play on my ipod.

I'm excited for their next album.  I've read that they want to do something different and "not sound like anyone else out there."  I just hope they take their time with the writing/production and schedule a live show in Florida.  No ABIII shows in Florida?  What's that about :censored ?

I thought that too.  Overall ODR is probably his finest moment but I still love this album, it's aging really well.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. "Live At Wembley"
Post by: sylvan on February 03, 2013, 06:29:04 AM
I still love this album, it's aging really well.

Yeah, I totally agree.  Way more so than ABIII imo.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. "Live At Wembley"
Post by: OsMosis2259 on February 03, 2013, 09:17:51 PM
Yeah come at me too...

I think his solo album is the one that I listen to the most. The "solos" did seem to take a back-seat though but he seemed like he wrote an album that was just fun/bad-ass. A great "workout" album as well.

ODR/Blackbird have awesome guitar work.

I'm really hoping for some variety this time around but I doubt it. It would be cool if they did more tracks that were a little more progressive in terms of song structure.

Show Me A Sign & Words Darker Than Their Wings were the highlights of ABIII IMO
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. "Live At Wembley"
Post by: wolfking on February 04, 2013, 03:49:03 AM
I'm actuall surprised people agree with me, I thought I'd be an outcast with that opinion.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: Accelerando on April 30, 2013, 09:39:18 PM
Press release from Loudwire.com

Quote

ALTER BRIDGE BEGIN RECORDING FOURTH ALBUM


It has been well over two years since Alter Bridge‘s last album ‘ABIII.’ But after a tweet last month from bassist Brian Marshall about writing new songs and news from guitarist Mark Tremonti that pre-production had begun, we’re now getting confirmation that recording has started. The album is slated for release in September.

In a post on their official website, the band reveals the following: “We are pleased to announce that recording has begun on our 4th studio album. First up to record is Scott “Flip” Phillips on the drums. Stay tuned and we’ll update you on the progress as time allows.”

The members of Alter Bridge have a lot of other obligations, so clearing everybody’s schedules must be challenging. Singer Myles Kennedy is the lead vocalist in Slash’s band; Tremonti, Marshall and Phillips are in Creed; and Tremonti also fronts his own self-titled band.

As far as the musical direction of the new songs, Tremonti spoke about it in a recent interview. “All of them are kind of real high-energy, just real fun rock/metal. We want to not be predictable. We want to make it a little surprising and we’re having fun with it.”

Alter Bridge already have a fall tour lined up. They are set to embark on a headlining run in Europe at the end of October with Halestorm. Kennedy says, “Thrilled to be returning to Europe with Halestorm later this year! I’m looking forward to reconnecting with the part of the world that embraced Alter Bridge from the start.”



I'm stoked! I hope Tremonti's description of high energy is stuff like One Day Remains and Ties That Bind.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: Accelerando on May 05, 2013, 08:48:35 PM
Via Elvis: Some of the heads I'm setting up to start recording @marktremonti tomorrow on the new @Alterbridge record with jef_1…


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Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: OsMosis2259 on May 07, 2013, 08:18:13 AM
Looking forward to it.

The drums are done and Tremonti started tracking yesterday  :metal

I remember Brian said he was going to start the bass tracking May 8th
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: OsMosis2259 on May 07, 2013, 08:22:27 AM
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Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: Accelerando on May 07, 2013, 08:12:35 PM
Someone pointed this out in the AB forums, but in every production photo of Mark, he is tracking his guitars outside of the booth. Most guitarists I see track inside. This is very interesting.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: sylvan on May 08, 2013, 07:01:57 AM
 :metal      :hat
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: OsMosis2259 on May 08, 2013, 10:14:49 AM
Someone pointed this out in the AB forums, but in every production photo of Mark, he is tracking his guitars outside of the booth. Most guitarists I see track inside. This is very interesting.

Hmm I didn't know that about guitars. I know vocals are usually recorded in a booth though.

I really liked the drum sound/mix on Tremonti's solo album. Much more upfront and in your face than ABIII!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on May 09, 2013, 06:50:58 AM
My band is learning Rise Today.  When it was suggested, I initially bristled at the idea, thinking "It's Creed without whiny-assed Scott Stapp vocals, I'm going to hate it."  After listening to it a few times, I readily admitted "Whoa, this song kicks major ass."
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: OsMosis2259 on May 09, 2013, 07:55:59 AM
My band is learning Rise Today.  When it was suggested, I initially bristled at the idea, thinking "It's Creed without whiny-assed Scott Stapp vocals, I'm going to hate it."  After listening to it a few times, I readily admitted "Whoa, this song kicks major ass."

Yeah AB is one of the best hard rock bands out there right now IMO

If you like that track, check out songs like:
Ties That Bind
Come to Life
Coeur d'Alene
Still Remains
Isolation
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: RuRoRul on May 11, 2013, 07:01:39 AM
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Whiteboard pic.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: Accelerando on May 11, 2013, 12:47:16 PM
Unless my eyes are deceiving me, there's a track on this record call "Symphony"  :metal




My band is learning Rise Today.  When it was suggested, I initially bristled at the idea, thinking "It's Creed without whiny-assed Scott Stapp vocals, I'm going to hate it."  After listening to it a few times, I readily admitted "Whoa, this song kicks major ass."

Yeah AB is one of the best hard rock bands out there right now IMO

If you like that track, check out songs like:
Ties That Bind
Come to Life
Coeur d'Alene
Still Remains
Isolation

I will even suggest the following songs to that list: One Day Remains, Find The Real, and Burn It Down
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: sylvan on May 11, 2013, 02:22:43 PM
I will even suggest the following songs to that list: One Day Remains, Find The Real, and Burn It Down

This.  The first album is so damn good.  I think One Day Remains might be my favorite AB track.  I miss the days when Myles didn't play guitar, and his infinite glory was solely directed at the mic.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: OsMosis2259 on May 13, 2013, 02:06:34 PM
I will even suggest the following songs to that list: One Day Remains, Find The Real, and Burn It Down

This.  The first album is so damn good.  I think One Day Remains might be my favorite AB track.  I miss the days when Myles didn't play guitar, and his infinite glory was solely directed at the mic.

But then we wouldn't have gotten songs like Watch Over You and Blackbird :coolio
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: PixelDream on May 13, 2013, 02:12:55 PM
Cool, I'm excited.

ODR and Blackbird are great, ABIII almost as great IMO. ABIII suffers a tiny bit in the sound department compared to the other two albums (still a cool sound though.. but when I switch I really prefer the other albums' production), and maybe it's just a tad too long with some songs sounding alike.

That said, I hope they delve deeper into the new territory of 'Slip to the Void'. I was almost disappointed when that intro with keys was the only thing 'like that' on the record.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: OsMosis2259 on May 13, 2013, 02:31:27 PM
I also thought AB III was a little too long. I think if this was the track list for AB III, it would have been a masterpiece.

Slip to the Void
Isolation
Ghost of Days Gone By
All Hope Is Gone
Still Remains
Wonderful Life
Show Me a Sign
Coeur d'Alene
Life Must Go On
Words Darker Than Their Wings
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: PixelDream on May 13, 2013, 02:39:06 PM
Agreed, though I would still add Fallout to that list.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: pogoowner on May 13, 2013, 03:28:42 PM
That said, I hope they delve deeper into the new territory of 'Slip to the Void'. I was almost disappointed when that intro with keys was the only thing 'like that' on the record.
I got really excited when I first started listening to ABIII, and then nothing more came of it. Definitely the coolest and freshest thing they tried on the whole album.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: Accelerando on May 13, 2013, 09:32:38 PM
I still say the bridge to All Hope Is Gone is one of the best musical parts in the entire AB catalogue. Along with Mark's solo....damn fine music.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: OsMosis2259 on May 14, 2013, 09:31:12 AM
I still say the bridge to All Hope Is Gone is one of the best musical parts in the entire AB catalogue. Along with Mark's solo....damn fine music.

Yeah the man knows how to write a kick-ass bridge for sure  :metal

The one in Still Remains is awesome as well
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: PixelDream on May 15, 2013, 06:05:17 AM
Yeah ABIII has its fair share of bouncy riffage.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: OsMosis2259 on July 24, 2013, 08:23:33 AM
New album "Fortress" drops October 8th :metal

http://www.alterbridge.com/news/2013-07/alter-bridge-fortress-drops-october-8th-usa.aspx
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: Adami on July 24, 2013, 08:25:32 AM
Here's hoping for some variety.


Though based on all of Tremonti's solo album, and the last few Creed/AB albums, I expect a lot more of the same.


Hopefully I'll still like it.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: OsMosis2259 on July 24, 2013, 08:40:01 AM
This thread needs more Accelerando!

I'm really looking forward to this release. It says they tried to be unpredictable... Hopefully the production will be more similar to Tremonti's "All I Was".
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: RuRoRul on July 24, 2013, 08:52:21 AM
Can't wait for this  :metal Glad to see its released fairly soon.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: sylvan on July 24, 2013, 08:56:50 AM
Ohhhhhhhh snap son!

New album, and a chance to see them for the first time in almost 5 years.  I WILL be at the Orlando show, without a doubt.

This update made my day. :tup
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: Basekick on July 24, 2013, 12:36:17 PM
Can't wait for the new album!  I have a feeling we'll see a little more variety than AB III since Tremonti got a chance to vent out a lot of the 'heavy' side of him in his solo album.

Not that I want anything different from the band.  They kick my ass every time.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: Samsara on July 25, 2013, 02:43:24 PM
Completely stoked. My second most anticipated record of 2013 after the new Queensryche. And that did not disappoint. Hoping AB makes it 2 for 2.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: sylvan on July 26, 2013, 03:53:05 PM
Got my tickets for Orlando.  WOO WOO!

Now I will have seen the first show from all the album tours but ABIII.  I still can't believe I haven't seen any ABIII live yet.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: OsMosis2259 on July 26, 2013, 04:33:15 PM
Nice! Hopefully they'll come towards my area next year.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: OsMosis2259 on July 31, 2013, 11:40:07 AM
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1. Cry of Achilles
2. Addicted to Pain
3. Bleed It Dry
4. Lover
5. The Uninvited
6. Peace is Broken
7. Calm the Fire
8. Waters Rising
9. Farther than the Sun
10. Cry a River
11. All Ends Well
12. Fortress

Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: JayOctavarium on July 31, 2013, 11:41:30 AM
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Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: mikeyd23 on July 31, 2013, 02:04:41 PM
Wow... I am a huge Alter Bridge fan, they are easily one of my favorite bands, but I'm not sure what to think of this album art.  It could have interesting meaning being that the record is called "Fortress" and the imagery is that of a frail, weak structure, hopefully the band will address that in interviews.  But even that imagery aside, the red font is a little off putting to me.

Oh well, music is what I am most concerned with! I don't have to be in love with the art as long as the music is good and these track titles look very cool!  :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: Nel on July 31, 2013, 03:05:09 PM
I do like the cover. The image looks like something Led Zeppelin would have used. Though I do agree that the red font clashes a bit with it, and the band loga kind of looks badly photoshopped on.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: Mister Gold on July 31, 2013, 03:33:40 PM
It reminds me a bit of the album cover for Bruce Springsteen's Nebraska. Very stark and bleak looking. Could use a touch up, but overall, I like it a lot. :tup
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: TheLordOfTheStrings on July 31, 2013, 03:44:25 PM
Something kinda cool that I noticed that all their albums do (with the exception of Blackbird)

One Day Remains - first album, has a '1' in the title.
AB III - Third album (obviously) has a '3' in the title.
Fortress - fourth album, has a '4' in the title (4tress).
Not sure if intentional (obviously AB III was), but really cool if it was.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: Nel on July 31, 2013, 04:18:06 PM
The bird is spreading it's... two... wings. *shrugs*
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: mikeyd23 on August 01, 2013, 08:24:54 AM
I do like the cover. The image looks like something Led Zeppelin would have used. Though I do agree that the red font clashes a bit with it, and the band loga kind of looks badly photoshopped on.

Yeah I guess thats how I feel too, the overall feel of the cover isn't bad, its really just the red font choices and the sub-par photoshopping that is taking away some of my enjoyment.

1. Cry of Achilles
2. Addicted to Pain
3. Bleed It Dry
4. Lover
5. The Uninvited
6. Peace is Broken
7. Calm the Fire
8. Waters Rising
9. Farther than the Sun
10. Cry a River
11. All Ends Well
12. Fortress

These track titles look interesting though! "Cry of Achilles" sounds great, apparently Myles does an acoustic nylon guitar intro on it, so thats how the album will start!

"Fortress" is also supposed to be over 7 minutes long with guitar solos from both Myles and Mark, hopefully not trying to make a "Blackbird 2" but at the same time catching that great vibe they had on that song.

I also really like the title "The Uninvited".... 

I'm really excited for this release!!   :tup
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: LCArenas on August 03, 2013, 02:20:19 PM
Not ti nitpick here but the red font doesn't go with the cover. A white font would've been reaally better.

Anyway, the first single "Addicted to Pain" is coming out August 20.
:caffeine:
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: Basekick on August 07, 2013, 11:29:33 AM
Addicted To Pain is up on YouTube!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh_NOkycLCw

Just gave it my one and only listen until I get the album.

SO DAMN GOOD.   The half time groove of the intro/brdige/outro riff is absolutely killer.   :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: adace on August 07, 2013, 02:30:44 PM
Awesome song. :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: Mister Gold on August 07, 2013, 02:40:03 PM
Sooooo good! :metal :tup :hefdaddy Sounds like the band's various side-projects have all rubbed off the band a bit on this. Really excited for the rest of the album! :hefdaddy
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: LCArenas on August 07, 2013, 03:04:12 PM
I hope Mark never runs out of ideas, this guy's a factory of badass riffs. The chorus seemed a little bit weak, but aside from that the song makes me reaaaaaally excited.
 :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: PixelDream on August 08, 2013, 03:52:28 AM
That was typically Alter Bridge, but very, very badass. Not slowing down anytime soon these guys.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: mikeyd23 on August 08, 2013, 10:14:52 AM
I'm loving "Addicted to Pain" I think its killer AB work!!     :metal

This song captures what I want to hear from AB in a heavy song, fast heavy riffs from Mark, nice grooves from Flip and Brian, and awesome vocals from Myles.  That breakdown half-time groove is fantastic, I laughed out loud the first time I heard it, because it's so sweet!

Myles' voice sounds great on this track too.  Very full sounding vocal delivery with not too much vocal effect going on (their producer Elvis tends to over-produce Myles' vocals sometimes).  Also, the vocals in the verses display what I think AB often is great at, writing vocal melodies over heavy guitars.  The vocal melody throughout the song is outstanding. Great solo from Mark, some cool melodic runs, some shred, some nice phrasing overall.

The production sounds decent as well, hard to tell from a YouTube video, but overall the mix sounds pretty good and the song sounds HUGE!

Based on that first taste, I can't wait for this record!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: PixelDream on August 08, 2013, 12:54:00 PM


The production sounds decent as well, hard to tell from a YouTube video, but overall the mix sounds pretty good and the song sounds HUGE!



That's right! From the looks of it this is going to sound better than ABIII, of which I thought it sounded slightly less good than Blackbird's mix.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: mikeyd23 on August 08, 2013, 02:07:28 PM
That's right! From the looks of it this is going to sound better than ABIII, of which I thought it sounded slightly less good than Blackbird's mix.

Yeah, I love Blackbird's mix, that whole album sounds great.  ABIII, while it didn't sound bad, was a step backward from Blackbird in overall production.  Addicted to Pain is a good sign for Fortress though, it seems the guys really refocused their sound and it totally works on this track! The whole track sounds brilliant to me, but the drum sound was one thing in particular I noticed.  With ABIII the drum sound seemed to really suffer under a wash of guitars, but on this track I think the drum parts come across great in the mix!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: j on August 08, 2013, 02:10:44 PM
The End is Here is still the best song this band has done, IMO.

I still enjoy listening to them from time to time, but I think they need to mix things up a bit.  Blackbird was great and expanded on what they had done on ODR, but ABIII seemed like too much retreading old ground.  Hopefully this album won't be just more of the same.  The talent and ability is definitely there.

-J
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: mikeyd23 on August 08, 2013, 02:13:39 PM
The End is Here is still the best song this band has done, IMO.

I still enjoy listening to them from time to time, but I think they need to mix things up a bit.  Blackbird was great and expanded on what they had done on ODR, but ABIII seemed like too much retreading old ground.  Hopefully this album won't be just more of the same.  The talent and ability is definitely there.

-J

I think they will be expanding their sound with this new record.  You're right though, this band totally has the talent and ability to push the envelope past what they have previously done.  Time will tell, but I have a  good feeling about this new album!   ;)
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: sylvan on August 08, 2013, 03:08:03 PM
The End is Here is still the best song this band has done, IMO.

I've been saying this for years.  The mood of the song, the heaviness of the riff, and the tone from Mark...oh the tone from Mark on that song is :hefdaddy.  I'd love if they cycled that back into the live sets, but with a fourth album, people want to hear certain songs, and I expect they will play those songs.  I got my Orlando tickets in the mail, woohoo :metal.

*fingers crossed for another ODR tour*
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW ALBUM
Post by: mikeyd23 on August 09, 2013, 10:27:09 AM
I've been saying this for years.  The mood of the song, the heaviness of the riff, and the tone from Mark...oh the tone from Mark on that song is :hefdaddy.

The heavy guitars in the bridge of that song are amazing. Simply fantastic tone  :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW SINGLE "Addicted To Pain"
Post by: Accelerando on August 12, 2013, 02:02:33 PM
Hey guys, chiming in! Made a major life move recently, so i've been busy getting settled in my new home in Los Angeles, CA past several weeks.

Very excited about the new album, and hopefully "Addicted To Pain" is a taste of the high energy music Mark has been describing this album. He has been saying lately that he thinks Blackbird is their best album out of the three, and they wanted to push themselves with this album. There was a Classic Rock magazine UK interview with Mark Tremonti about making of forth album it says Myles really pushed for heavier stuff on this album, which I think is great! Myles is a singer/songwriter at heart, and is responsible for songs like "Watch Over You."  Mark also stated some of Myles best riffs are on this album.

And I know the majority of us loved Mark's vocals on his solo album - It's been confirmed he sings lead on the track "The Waters Rise"  :metal

And i'll find the article and post it, but according to Myles, there is a song on the album that is the bands love letter to Queen. I'm not surprised. The bridge to "Slip To The Void" had the Queen vocal melodies written all over it.

I hope Brian bass work is more noticeable, which is something I really miss about in the production quality of "One Day Remains." He's a killer bassist, and whenever I see him play live, he makes that bass his bitch.


Im ready for this album to drop, especially now we've heard Addicted To Pain  :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW SINGLE "Addicted To Pain"
Post by: mikeyd23 on August 12, 2013, 02:17:07 PM
I hope Brian bass work is more noticeable, which is something I really miss about in the production quality of "One Day Remains." He's a killer bassist, and whenever I see him play live, he makes that bass his bitch.

Totally agree with this! Brian actually is one of my favorite bass players, he has such interesting and creative bass lines when he has the freedom to play them.  I recall him saying at one point, he likes the heavier, faster riff stuff that AB does now, but those songs provide him with less room to play around with the progressions.  He basically has to just stick to the guitar riff.  It sounded like that was pretty much the case on "Addicted to Pain" so hopefully on some of the more moody songs or some of the ballads he will have room to walk his bass lines around a little.  And of course, making sure his work is noticed in the mix is crucial as well  ;D
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW SINGLE "Addicted To Pain"
Post by: mikeyd23 on August 13, 2013, 02:51:20 PM
Myles and JLB together in the same room!!! Whoa!!  :metal  :metal  :metal

http://instagram.com/p/c9kQlKqsfq/
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW SINGLE "Addicted To Pain"
Post by: LCArenas on August 13, 2013, 08:35:17 PM
Myles and JLB together in the same room!!! Whoa!!  :metal  :metal  :metal

http://instagram.com/p/c9kQlKqsfq/
(http://distilleryimage6.ak.instagram.com/2de2a876046f11e386a922000a1fb703_7.jpg)
And their riffs shall set the world afire.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW SINGLE "Addicted To Pain"
Post by: mikeyd23 on August 14, 2013, 07:51:07 AM
(http://distilleryimage6.ak.instagram.com/2de2a876046f11e386a922000a1fb703_7.jpg)
And their riffs shall set the world afire.

Holy smokes!! Mark, Myles, JP and JLB together! Too much awesome for one picture, haha...  :metal

AB is doing a listening party for their new record at the London RoadRunner facility as well, so I guess thats why they are traveling over the same time as DT!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW SINGLE "Addicted To Pain"
Post by: Basekick on August 14, 2013, 09:34:47 AM
Myles and JLB together in the same room!!! Whoa!!  :metal  :metal  :metal

http://instagram.com/p/c9kQlKqsfq/
(http://distilleryimage6.ak.instagram.com/2de2a876046f11e386a922000a1fb703_7.jpg)
And their riffs shall set the world afire.

If I was standing in front of them, I would have no idea what to do.  Too much to handle.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW SINGLE "Addicted To Pain"
Post by: Accelerando on August 14, 2013, 03:06:41 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/tremontidood/998941_568987103158892_193010659_n_zps6c629311.png)
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW SINGLE "Addicted To Pain"
Post by: Accelerando on August 15, 2013, 06:20:41 PM
Here is a song by song review posted on the AB forums. There was a listening party in the UK recently, and this gentlemen and long time poster on the alterbridgenation forums gave his thoughts!

Quote
Ok guys. Here are my two cents. After being awake for like 28 hours I slept 8 hours after I returned back home. Written this review before I read the others in this thread

[SPOILER ALERT]

Alter Bridge Listening Party by Roadrunner Records
14 August 2013 — Slim Jim's Liquor Store, Islington, London

Mark & Myles made a brief appearance, in which they took pics with all the winners and had a Q&A en groupe. Also part of the night had an open bar. Woohoo, free beers! The Fortress album was played from start to finish after the guys left, they were nervous on how we would receive it. My English isn't the best in picking up lyrics on a first listen, but I tried to jolt some down at some of the songs.

Overall impression
The songs have a more mature, bigger sound. Bass and drums are very nice. Overall feel is a heavier album. Guitar work is excellent. Myles voice sounds amazing! Definitely the next step in the evolution of Alter Bridge.

Cry of Achilles
Calm stringed beginning, classic rock kinda riff, melody has a Iron Maiden/Run to the Hills vibe. Long song.

Addicted to Pain
We have heard the song, sounded amazing in a bar like Slim Jim's, with people singing along

Bleed it Dry
Hard song, metal. Features Brian and Flip as starts heavy then it flow into a more melodious song. Changes into stringy before solo kicks in.
"Bleed it dry, leave us here with nothing..."

Lover
Slower song. Missed half of it to a much needed potty break (damn those free pints! LOL)

The uninvited
Starts out slow, then pick up. Still Remains kinda riff. Not too sure about the distortion/effect on Myles voice at some points in the song.

Peace is Broken
Think this song will appeal to classic rock lovers, nice bass and drum lines.
"Peace is broken, you did it to yourself, you don't have anyone to blame"

Calm the Fire
WOW at the intro which has a Muse kinda feel. Myles showing off his pipes, can't wat to experience this intro in a concert! Song gave me goosebumps. Very vocal heavy song.

Waters Rising
Mark singing lead with Myles doing done backing vocals. Later in the song Myles takes over lead vocals and harmony. Begin gave me a All Hope is Gone feel, though song took a different direction after.

Farther than the Sun
Harder song. Very nice solo and riffs.
"I have to find a place where I belong."

Cry a River
Maybe one of the heaviest songs. Mature rock sound. Brian and Flip in charge combined with strong guitars. Flip and Brian have evolved to a new level.

All Ends Well
Slowest song on the album.
"If I could ease your mind, if I could heal your scars, ooh ooh, in due time"

Fortress
This song has various stages. Starts with a Blackbird feel, as if its an evolution to this song. Turns into a harder song with metal guitar riffs and solo. Song has sort of a break and then what feels like an encore. Long song (over 7 mins) because of the different stages.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW SINGLE "Addicted To Pain"
Post by: JayOctavarium on August 15, 2013, 07:46:21 PM
lol @ 7 min being a long song



seriously cant wait
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW SINGLE "Addicted To Pain"
Post by: Jaq on August 15, 2013, 10:43:34 PM
Seven minutes is actually fairly long for a band that normally works in the 4 minute range, to be fair.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW SINGLE "Addicted To Pain"
Post by: Accelerando on August 17, 2013, 02:16:19 PM
Not about Fortress but a cool interview about Mark and Myles' guitar playing.

http://youtu.be/9QerxElDWKg
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW SINGLE "Addicted To Pain"
Post by: LCArenas on August 17, 2013, 06:24:10 PM
Addicted to Pain has grown on me. I still think the chorus is the weakest part of the song, but I like it nonetheless.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW SINGLE "Addicted To Pain"
Post by: mikeyd23 on August 19, 2013, 09:56:36 AM
Not about Fortress but a cool interview about Mark and Myles' guitar playing.

http://youtu.be/9QerxElDWKg

Haha, great little video, about 1:30 into it, Mark mentions he would rather learn to play slide than learn to tap better on guitar and Myles has this great little nod as if to say, "Ah yes, slide, I could teach you that"....
 
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW SINGLE "Addicted To Pain"
Post by: pogoowner on August 19, 2013, 03:20:09 PM
Not about Fortress but a cool interview about Mark and Myles' guitar playing.

http://youtu.be/9QerxElDWKg

Haha, great little video, about 1:30 into it, Mark mentions he would rather learn to play slide than learn to tap better on guitar and Myles has this great little nod as if to say, "Ah yes, slide, I could teach you that"....
 
Watching Myles's facial reactions to the things Mark says was the best part of the video for me. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW SINGLE "Addicted To Pain"
Post by: wolfking on August 19, 2013, 09:01:51 PM
I'm not really digging that new song that much.  Hopefully it will work better in the album.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW SINGLE "Addicted To Pain"
Post by: Anguyen92 on August 20, 2013, 12:01:13 PM
All right, well, I pre-ordered the album on iTunes and I will still buy the hard copy of it.  No matter what happens, this will be a winner.  How much of a winner it will be compared to Blackbird remains to be seen.

Anywho, here are the Track Listings.  Three songs over the 6 min. mark.

Cry of Achilles - 6:30
Addicted to Pain - 4:15
Bleed It Dry - 4:44
Lover - 5:17
The Uninvited - 4:47
Peace Is Broken - 4:40
Calm The Fire - 6:04
Waters Rising - 5:39
Farther Than The Sun - 4:07
Cry a River - 4:00
All Ends Well - 5:12
Fortress 7:36
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW SINGLE "Addicted To Pain"
Post by: sylvan on August 20, 2013, 02:57:18 PM
I just listened to Addicted to Pain for the second time, this time on Rhapsody.  I'm totally digging it, even the chorus.  You can hear the progression of the band.  I'm trying real hard not to listen more, but it's tough :metal.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW SINGLE "Addicted To Pain"
Post by: mikeyd23 on August 21, 2013, 10:58:55 AM
I just listened to Addicted to Pain for the second time, this time on Rhapsody.  I'm totally digging it, even the chorus.  You can hear the progression of the band.  I'm trying real hard not to listen more, but it's tough :metal.

Haha me too! I'm trying to not over listen to the track, but its now up on US iTunes and with an album pre-order it will be downloaded right to my phone at work.... Very hard to resist, especially since the album is only $7.99 on iTunes!! Thats a great price!!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW SINGLE "Addicted To Pain"
Post by: Accelerando on August 21, 2013, 01:38:10 PM
Watch this video of them in the studio recording "The Uninvited"!!!  :metal

http://youtu.be/gCnGAE6HvSY


Some interesting time signatures! And it sounds like Flip is stepping up his game. I mean, I would too if I had to follow up from Garrett Whitlock  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW SINGLE "Addicted To Pain"
Post by: mikeyd23 on August 21, 2013, 02:32:36 PM
Watch this video of them in the studio recording "The Uninvited"!!!  :metal

http://youtu.be/gCnGAE6HvSY


Some interesting time signatures! And it sounds like Flip is stepping up his game. I mean, I would too if I had to follow up from Garrett Whitlock  :lol

Whoa!! Yeah I really like the sound of that track! Sounds like it has some cool twisting and turning riffs, and the little clip of the actual song at the end sounds great.  The guitar and drum sound is huge and Myles' voice is sitting nicely!

Even more excited now and the video said we would be getting more of these "making of" videos soon, keep them coming!!

 :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW SINGLE "Addicted To Pain"
Post by: MoraWintersoul on August 21, 2013, 05:16:05 PM
I'll probably end up listening to this, I'm seeing my sister infect me with her enthusiasm in the future :lol
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW SINGLE "Addicted To Pain"
Post by: wasteland on August 21, 2013, 05:17:16 PM
I'll probably end up listening to this, I'm seeing my sister infect me with her enthusiasm in the future :lol

I'll never get why that channel can't be a two way channel  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW SINGLE "Addicted To Pain"
Post by: OsMosis2259 on August 21, 2013, 06:57:45 PM
God damn. The drums are going to sound great this time!  :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW SINGLE "Addicted To Pain"
Post by: ariich on August 22, 2013, 01:30:14 AM
The new song is really good! Looking foward to this album, haven't really listened to much AB recently but I'm seeing them at Wembley in October.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW SINGLE "Addicted To Pain"
Post by: Mister Gold on August 22, 2013, 05:10:37 AM
Watch this video of them in the studio recording "The Uninvited"!!!  :metal

http://youtu.be/gCnGAE6HvSY


Some interesting time signatures! And it sounds like Flip is stepping up his game. I mean, I would too if I had to follow up from Garrett Whitlock  :lol

Whoa!! Yeah I really like the sound of that track! Sounds like it has some cool twisting and turning riffs, and the little clip of the actual song at the end sounds great.  The guitar and drum sound is huge and Myles' voice is sitting nicely!

Even more excited now and the video said we would be getting more of these "making of" videos soon, keep them coming!!

 :metal :metal :metal

The more I hear off this album, the more I think it's going to come down between Fortress and Darkness In A Different Light for my Album of the Year. :metal :tup :hefdaddy Sounds insane.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW SINGLE "Addicted To Pain"
Post by: Anguyen92 on August 22, 2013, 11:05:28 AM
Here are some links to a couple of acoustic songs that Mark and Myles played from a Swedish radio station.

All Hope is Gone - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxxSI5ssgKs

Addicted to Pain - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgNJ9_Pacqo
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW SINGLE "Addicted To Pain"
Post by: mikeyd23 on August 22, 2013, 12:06:11 PM
Here are some links to a couple of acoustic songs that Mark and Myles played from a Swedish radio station.

All Hope is Gone - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxxSI5ssgKs

Addicted to Pain - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgNJ9_Pacqo

Those are really cool, thanks for sharing them! I love both song renditions and Myles sounds SOOO good here.  I just wish there was video to go with the audio.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW SINGLE "Addicted To Pain"
Post by: Accelerando on August 22, 2013, 02:56:21 PM
I always thought All Hope Is Gone would sound immense on acoustics, especially because it is inspired by sea shanteys. And big shocker, Myles' voice sounds phenomenal in both of these songs
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW SINGLE "Addicted To Pain"
Post by: mikeyd23 on August 23, 2013, 02:48:26 PM
I always thought All Hope Is Gone would sound immense on acoustics, especially because it is inspired by sea shanteys. And big shocker, Myles' voice sounds phenomenal in both of these songs

Yeah All Hope Is Gone sounded great acoustic! The riffs for Addicting to Pain didn't really work as well acoustic, but that's to be expected with a heavy riffing tune like that.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW SINGLE "Addicted To Pain"
Post by: Accelerando on August 23, 2013, 03:33:50 PM
(https://sphotos-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/197696_653983171280900_438239627_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW SINGLE "Addicted To Pain"
Post by: Accelerando on August 28, 2013, 02:17:25 AM
New band picture

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/560843_10151864030555953_1158923571_n.jpg)


Looks like Mark is growing out his hair a little bit. Could be seeing this soon?

(http://www.marktremonti.net/images/site/bio/bio03.jpg)

 :lol Look at him in that Chili's server polo
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW SINGLE "Addicted To Pain"
Post by: PixelDream on August 28, 2013, 05:39:07 AM
Addicted to Pain is great and this new studio vid of The Uninvited sounds massive as well. So far, so freakin' good. It could still end up being their best album yet. I'm excited as hell!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW SINGLE "Addicted To Pain"
Post by: Accelerando on September 03, 2013, 01:26:47 PM
New review from artistsdirect

http://www.artistdirect.com/entertainment-news/article/first-reaction-alter-bridge-fortress/10722681

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It feels like Alter Bridge's moment. That's our first reaction from hearing Fortress.

Myles Kennedy's coming off a successful album with Slash and worldwide tour, and Mark Tremonti shook up the metal world with his long-overdue solo album All I Was last year. Of course, Tremonti, Brian Marshall and Scott Phillips are also hot off a big Creed tour as well.

For the uninitiated in AB Nation, Alter Bridge led its most successful campaign to date with 2010's masterful AB III, culminating in a sold out show at Wembley Arena in the UK. Lest we forget, they even sold out places such as the House of Blues in West Hollywood. Los Angeles couldn't be any more anti-rock these days, and that's how on fire Alter Bridge are. That fire hasn't dwindled on Fortress either. In fact, it burns brighter than ever.

Fortress commences with the classically influenced furious finger-picking of "Cry of Achilles" which quickly builds into a modern thrash epic. Its towering rhythms and incendiary riffing temper raw grooves with some of the most impressive playing you'll hear all year. Crossing the six-minute mark, it's clear that Alter Bridge are erecting more of a castle than a Fortress right out the gate. First single "Addicted to Pain" coasts from a stadium-size refrain into fret-burning soloing—some of the best in the game. Kennedy and Tremonti stand out as a formidable duo. From the former's monumental range and impeccable six-string work to Tremonti's metallic mastery, it's a dream team on the likes of "Bleed it Dry" and "The Uninvited".

Alter Bridge still know how to slow things down for the lighters to come out. That happens most elegantly on "Lover", which has big single potential, while "Peace Is Broken" boasts a massive hook. Tremonti's own powerful voice drives "Waters Rising" adding another dimension to the record. Throughout, Marshall and Phillips hold down the foundation in an airtight synchronicity.

The finale of "All Ends Well" and "Fortress" leaves an ominous bookend upon this downright amazing journey. It's metal at its finest. It's also Alter Bridge at their best. Hole up in this Fortress and experience a milestone hard rock record. They've joined the likes of Metallica, Alice in Chains, and Pantera at the top…
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW SINGLE "Addicted To Pain"
Post by: mikeyd23 on September 03, 2013, 01:42:33 PM
New review from artistsdirect

http://www.artistdirect.com/entertainment-news/article/first-reaction-alter-bridge-fortress/10722681

Wow that's a really positive review! Unfortunately there is really no new information in it, but it did excite me for this record even more!!

I wonder when AB will release another in-studio video like they did for "The Uninvited"... At the end of the video it said more videos would be coming soon, I would love to see another one this week!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW SINGLE "Addicted To Pain"
Post by: OsMosis2259 on September 03, 2013, 02:03:59 PM
Awesome new interview with Mark and Myles

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52srzuVLLhk
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW SINGLE "Addicted To Pain"
Post by: OsMosis2259 on September 03, 2013, 02:12:40 PM
Why is this band not big in the US?
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW SINGLE "Addicted To Pain"
Post by: sylvan on September 03, 2013, 02:52:57 PM
Why is this band not big in the US?

The masses in the US generally have terrible taste in music.  Two things that piss me off on a daily basis are Mtv and the radio.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW SINGLE "Addicted To Pain"
Post by: Anguyen92 on September 05, 2013, 09:43:07 AM
Video, for Addicted to Pain, is out.  I'm just going to say that it is not just a "band performing the song," video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M9QxzpTjec
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW SINGLE "Addicted To Pain"
Post by: OsMosis2259 on September 05, 2013, 09:44:10 AM
Beat me to it!

I dig the video!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW SINGLE "Addicted To Pain"
Post by: ariich on September 05, 2013, 12:29:01 PM
Blocked in my country. :/
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW SINGLE "Addicted To Pain"
Post by: mikeyd23 on September 05, 2013, 05:20:40 PM
Video, for Addicted to Pain, is out.  I'm just going to say that it is not just a "band performing the song," video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M9QxzpTjec

COOL!!! I liked the video, nothing too ground breaking but its better than the "Isolation" video!  Super pumped for this album even more now!  :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW SINGLE "Addicted To Pain"
Post by: Accelerando on September 06, 2013, 01:30:35 AM
Cool video, but I have to say...I do miss the concept videos of old. Their Broken Wings video is amazing
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. NEW SINGLE "Addicted To Pain"
Post by: Accelerando on September 06, 2013, 11:49:21 AM
Tremonti talks about Fortress track by track!!!

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MusicRadar.com
http://www.musicradar.com/news/drums/mark-tremonti-talks-alter-bridges-fortress-track-by-track-583219/13

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When it came time for Alter Bridge to begin recording their upcoming fourth album, Fortress, the band members – lead vocalist-guitarist Myles Kennedy, lead guitarist-singer Mark Tremonti, bassist Brian Marshall and drummer Scott Phillips – decided to build on their prior LPs successes by playing fast and loose with song structures.

“We were pushing for unpredictability," Tremonti says. "The last thing we wanted was verse-chorus-verse-chorus and all that. Songs should have you never knowing what you're getting next. We messed with time signatures, tones, key changes – everything we could throw at these songs, we did.”

As they've done since 2007's Blackbird, the group worked with producer Michael "Elvis" Baskette, who, according to Tremonti, wasn't adverse to adopting a more daring approach. "Elvis never tries to simplify our ideas," he enthuses. "A lot producers might want to shave edges off things and play it safe, but Elvis pushes us to be more extreme, more creative. It’s always, ‘Hey, that’s great. Now, how far can we take that?’"

During pre-production, songs were built up and torn down; sometimes multiple treatments for each one were considered. "We just didn't want to be easily satisfied," Tremonti explains. "It's so tempting to say, 'That's it. It's perfect' the first time you have something. But you never really know it's as good as it can be until you exhaust every possibility, and that's what we did."

Tremonti re-assessed his own guitar playing, as well, starting with his use of the wah pedal, which he admits has become something of a security blanket. "I saw an online post where a fan brought it up," he says. "‘I think you should use less wah on this record,’ somebody wrote, and I thought, ‘You know what? I’m not gonna use any wah when it comes to the solos.’ I wanted to get out of my comfort zone.

“I’ve also had a tendency to do too many descending legato riffs. They became a go-to, over-the-top pattern of mine – whenever a climax would come up, I’d do some fast legato stuff. I wanted to lay off that and concentrate on phrasing. There is kind of a new trick I’m doing – this chicken pickin’-type pull-off riff that I use in a few of the solos. It’s good to change your game around and see what comes from it."

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1/12
Cry Of Achilles

“When Myles and I were throwing ideas back and forth, he played me a fingerpicked bit on a nylon-string guitar. It was really great, and I just said to him, ‘Man, we’ve got to use that for an intro or incorporate it into one of the songs somehow.’

“We kind of put it on the back burner – things like that always seem to happen – but it was too good to forget about. The bulk of the song came about in pre-production; we sat down for a few days and worked on it, and in the end we felt like we caught lightning in a bottle.

“Myles and I both take solos in the song. He takes the first one, the more elastic solo, and I take the second one. He’s a great improvisational player; his bends and vibrato are so striking. My solo is more ‘stingy,’ I guess, which is a nice complement to what he does.”

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2/12
Addicted To Pain

“It’s tough to always use your own experiences when writing lyrics, and I think, in some cases, Myles looked to people around him for inspiration. Somebody close to him was venting about his problems, and Myles felt as though he could touch on certain issues.

“The solo is a funny one: I had the idea of starting it out on a single bent note. I was improvising one night and kept playing around with this way of edging into it. It’s one of my favorite solos on the album.”

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3/12
Bleed It Dry

“OK, now this is actually my favorite solo on the record. I’m playing with my fingers to make it more expressive – it affects the whole tone in a really cool way. The song itself is tuned down to drop D, so it’s one of the heavier songs. We’re definitely going to play it live.

“For amps, on this song, like on the whole album, I used the Cornford RK100, Obershaw and a little bit of Boogie. Guitar-wise, I used two guitars, both of them my signature Paul Reed Smith models. One has a fixed bridge for the rhythm stuff, and for leads I used one with the bar on it.”

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4/12
Lover

“We had most of the record together before we got to this one. The high-energy stuff was there, so we needed something to provide a different dynamic, something a little slower with a more atmospheric feel.

“There’s no real guitar solo, just a little lick before the second verse. We thought about a solo, but then we kind of left it up in the air. I was just going to improvise something, but one day I went to the studio and Elvis said, ‘You know, Myles put down this great vocal at the end; we should just forgo the solo.’ I listened to what Myles did and said, ‘Fine. It's great.' Hey, less work for me, right?" [Laughs]

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5/12
The Uninvited

“This song almost didn’t make the album. It’s got this hammer-on thing, and Scott was like, ‘That’s just like a Tool riff.’ So, for a while there, we were like, ‘OK, let’s shelve this and move on.’

“But eventually, we came back to it and said, ‘OK, let’s just make this as un-Tool-like as possible and go with it.’ Everybody is influenced by somebody or something – a lot of times, it's a subconscious thing – so if an idea is really strong, you just have to give in and see it through.

“The song was a dark horse, and for a while we were probably thinking it was a B-side track. Once we finished it, it seemed to jump out at us – I guess we didn’t know what we had all along. Now it’s one of our favorites.”

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6/12
Peace Is Broken

"We’re usually so busy with our own parts that we don’t often hear what Myles is working on with lyrics until after he’s done. When I’m tracking, that’s when I sometimes hear what he’s come up with. He blows me away. There’s only been a few times where we’ve wanted to make changes to his lyrics.

“I love this chorus. When I brought it to Myles, I said, ‘This one is very important to me; let’s make it special.’ The verses came from a riff I had; I built it up with some chord changes – at first, there were no chords – and it all came together after that.

“I wanted to make the solo an emotional one, so I kind of followed the chorus melody. Actually, this was the first solo I wrote for the record. I’m pretty pleased at how it turned out.”

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7/12
Calm The Fire

“Another Myles opener – he's on the nylon-string. We already had the song worked out, but he and Elvis went in one night and came up with that part as an intro. I was knocked out when I heard it. It's definitely one of the highlights on the album.

“Myles and I do a lot of cool guitar stuff together. We’re playing two totally different parts during the verses. It’s only in the pre-chorus where we sync up with each other, but for the most part, we’re trying to really complement our separate approaches. It’s always very inspiring to see what Myles comes up with. I can’t say enough about him as a guitarist.”

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8/12
Waters Rising

“I wrote this song about a fictional apocalyptic scenario. Just watching the news every day, every week, it seems as though there’s always some way for somebody to end it all. After I’d written this song and I’d heard what Myles had done for Bleed It Dry, I was like, ‘Wow, we both went there coincidentally.’

“A lot of the solo happened by mistake. I had written a riff that I wasn’t feeling, so I was just improvising to see where I could take things. It was one of those situations where you fall down the stairs and you manage to land on your feet.

“For me, the biggest challenge was that it was my debut as a vocalist on an Alter Bridge record. A little daunting, but I think it turned out well.”

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9/12
Farther Than The Sun

"We always have a go-to drop-B song on a record. This is probably our heaviest track because it’s tuned so low. It’s another one where Myles and I take back-to-back leads, which is always fun. It’ll be a highlight of our live set, I think.

“I tracked my lead first, and I didn’t hear what Myles did until I went in to do my vocals. Needless to say, I was blown away. Myles is always very soulful with his bends and the emotion he puts into his guitar playing. His vibrato and phrasing are always pretty impressive. On a few places, he really went for the shred.”

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10/12
Cry A River

“Everybody’s playing these songs for the first time, so when it comes down to the arrangements, people are going, ‘Let’s try this, let’s try that.’ That’s the way a lot of these tunes come together.

“Actually, this solo was one of the tougher ones for me. I put it off for a while because of the chord progression – I just didn’t feel like it was a good sound bed for an emotional solo. One night I was up, and I came up with a little lick for the melodic phrasing for the beginning of the solo, and I was like, ‘That's it! Now I’m saved. I have something to work with here.’ After that, it came together pretty quickly.”

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11/12
All Ends Well

“We added this song to the record towards the very end. We knew we needed something different for the dynamics of the album, and we also kept in mind that our fans like things like Before Tomorrow Comes – the more uplifting tunes that we’ve done in the past. Things were pretty dark and heavy, so we wanted to make sure this tune wound up on the record.

“I had the verse music for a while, and I knew that I wanted to use it for something. I think Myles knocked it out of the park with his vocal over the guitar line. It was one of those places where I couldn’t play it and sing something at the same time, so I had no idea how it should work. Myles did a great job, especially on the chorus.

"The acoustic is a drop-D with the high E turned down to D, as well. Both of the E strings are D. It’s a great sound."

“A lot of people have said that they respect how we put this song near the end of the record – some bands might immediately go for the money shot, the more pop, cross-over-type thing. I think that we just wanted to let people know that it’s not that kind of a record overall."

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12/12
Fortress

“This is one of the first ideas that I brought to Myles music-wise. I sent him the verse and the chorus, and we kind of forgot about it after that. We came back to it after Elvis said, ‘Let me hear some of the other ideas you two worked on before we started.’ This one stuck out, and Elvis said, ‘Hey, that’s great. Let’s work on it.’

“As soon as the rhythm for the bridge came together, we all fell in love with it. Then it was a matter of getting in and out of the time signature and making all of the parts work.

“Myles and I took turns with the solos: I do the first and third, and he does the second and fourth. On the fourth round, he kind of mimics a descending thing of mine, but he does it with an ascending pattern.

“When my part happens, it’s in D because I was in open D5 tuning, which is a challenge because your B string is up a whole step and a half, so you can’t do some bendy stuff – you might snap the string. It’s hard to do some pentatonic things, as well, because your guitar’s a whole new beast when you tune it that way. I think it’s fun, though, because it doesn’t sound like standard-tuning solos.

"I made sure that I got the D portion that’s in a double-time thing, and then it switches to half-time with Myles in the key of A; after that, it goes back to D with me and back to A with him. Really cool stuff going on. Challenging ourselves on the guitar keeps things interesting for us, and I hope everybody else feels the same way.”
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: OsMosis2259 on September 06, 2013, 12:31:24 PM
 :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Anguyen92 on September 11, 2013, 12:30:26 AM
Here's something that might hold us over until Fortress comes out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu8EyOnh1Cg

It's a song, called Done Got Wise, from Gov't Mule that has Myles singing the entire track.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Accelerando on September 11, 2013, 03:11:34 AM
Awesome! His vocal performance in this song reminds me of his days in Citizen Swing and some Mayfield Four. Nice find!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Accelerando on September 11, 2013, 03:23:31 AM
And speaking of Myles in his Citizen Swing Days  :biggrin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIN2ZVj6FRA
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: MoraWintersoul on September 11, 2013, 06:01:43 AM
And speaking of Myles in his Citizen Swing Days  :biggrin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIN2ZVj6FRA
He's adorable :lol
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Accelerando on September 11, 2013, 01:52:46 PM
Probably the best review of 'Fortress" i have read

http://i.imgur.com/tAUA9fo.jpg

(http://i.imgur.com/tAUA9fo.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Accelerando on September 12, 2013, 01:15:49 PM
Track by track interview for Total Guitar with Mark and Myles

http://youtu.be/XGUq4mh3G0s
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: mikeyd23 on September 12, 2013, 02:19:56 PM
Track by track interview for Total Guitar with Mark and Myles

http://youtu.be/XGUq4mh3G0s

Yes! That was a really cool interview, might be the most interesting interview about the album I've seen yet!  Even more pumped now, I feel like this is going to be great record!! :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Accelerando on September 13, 2013, 01:21:32 PM
Snippet of CRY OF ACHILLES!!!!!

http://youtu.be/ADZbnhC8sYo
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: OsMosis2259 on September 15, 2013, 11:17:32 AM
Wow that was really interesting!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: TheLordOfTheStrings on September 17, 2013, 11:48:27 AM
I've got such a boner for this album. I can't wait!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Anguyen92 on September 17, 2013, 11:50:44 PM
Ohhhhhhhhh man, this is exciting now.  This seals the deal for me that I'm going to buy this album at Best Buy,

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Fortress+%28Best+Buy+Exclusive%29-CD/2018073.p;jsessionid=5CF33988444C168CEAAB07E1B479FA2F.bbolsp-app02-176?id=2758460&skuId=2018073&st=alter%20bridge&lp=5&cp=1

The people that buys it at best buy is going to get a B-Side track called Outright.   Apparently, it was a track that has been in the making since the Blackbird era.  Exciting that there's going to be 13 new songs to embrace and love.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Accelerando on September 18, 2013, 12:39:13 AM
Yeah Best Buy usually has some good exclusives and bonus content when buying from their stores. I believe Blackbird had the Making Of dvd to go with it.

Is it me, or did every copy of ABIII had two bonus songs that came with it, no matter where you bought it from? I'm taling about "Zero" and "Home"
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Nel on September 18, 2013, 01:04:05 AM
Yeah, I bought ABIII randomly at Walmart maybe and still got those two songs.

Thanks for the heads up on the BB bonus track.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: RuRoRul on September 18, 2013, 08:14:54 AM
Yeah Best Buy usually has some good exclusives and bonus content when buying from their stores. I believe Blackbird had the Making Of dvd to go with it.

Is it me, or did every copy of ABIII had two bonus songs that came with it, no matter where you bought it from? I'm taling about "Zero" and "Home"
The regular American release had those 2 bonus tracks on it, to compensate for the fact it was delayed and came out a month after Europe etc.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Anguyen92 on September 18, 2013, 09:53:27 AM
Yeah Best Buy usually has some good exclusives and bonus content when buying from their stores. I believe Blackbird had the Making Of dvd to go with it.

Is it me, or did every copy of ABIII had two bonus songs that came with it, no matter where you bought it from? I'm taling about "Zero" and "Home"

Making of the album and the bonus songs, the Damage Done and New Way to Live (those are actually some of my favorite tracks that came out of the Blackbird Era).  Such good stuff.  I wish I persuaded my family to get me to buy it, when it came out.  Obviously, it was going to be worth it, at the time. 

Though, for Fortress, $13, including tax, and 13 new songs, including a crack at the B-side is going to be an easy purchase to make.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: OsMosis2259 on September 19, 2013, 10:41:54 AM
Alter Bridge // In the Studio - FORTRESS ("Cry of Achilles")

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcS9oWndRK0
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: mikeyd23 on September 19, 2013, 11:02:17 AM
Alter Bridge // In the Studio - FORTRESS ("Cry of Achilles")

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcS9oWndRK0

Nice! Cool distorted bass section there!! Continuing to get even more pumped for this release!! :tup
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Accelerando on September 21, 2013, 05:41:38 PM
Here's one for "Cry A River"!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS-6AXZ5tq0


I really like the energy in this song
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Basekick on September 22, 2013, 10:09:47 AM
The Alter Bridge Facebook group says they are streaming the album THIS MONDAY AT 10AM.  THAT'S TOMORROW.

OMG OMG OMG OMG.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: OsMosis2259 on September 22, 2013, 10:34:19 AM
ahhhhh YES

 :corn
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Mister Gold on September 22, 2013, 08:46:52 PM
The Alter Bridge Facebook group says they are streaming the album THIS MONDAY AT 10AM.  THAT'S TOMORROW.

OMG OMG OMG OMG.

ALL MY HYPE. :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy

Been listening to band interviews and the brief teasers they've put up on YouTube lately. I have a feeling this will be the album of the year for me. It'll be either this or Fates Warning. But I'm leaning towards this. I've only heard a little bit of this thing, but everything I've heard off of it so far just sounds so goddamned inspired. :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: mikeyd23 on September 23, 2013, 07:48:20 AM
Almost time for the stream!! SO EXCITED!  ;D
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Basekick on September 23, 2013, 07:58:11 AM
The Alter Bridge Facebook group says they are streaming the album THIS MONDAY AT 10AM.  THAT'S TOMORROW.

OMG OMG OMG OMG.

ALL MY HYPE. :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy

Been listening to band interviews and the brief teasers they've put up on YouTube lately. I have a feeling this will be the album of the year for me. It'll be either this or Fates Warning. But I'm leaning towards this. I've only heard a little bit of this thing, but everything I've heard off of it so far just sounds so goddamned inspired. :metal

I'm with you.  I've actually avoided every clip as much as possible, in order to make my first listening experience as fantastic as possible.  I let myself listen to Addicted To Pain once when it was released, but I've been in complete blackout since.

I'm so excited!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: PixelDream on September 23, 2013, 08:02:29 AM
Waaaaiting for the stream to appear....
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Basekick on September 23, 2013, 08:09:20 AM
Waaaaiting for the stream to appear....

Take a listen!

http://loudwire.com/alter-bridge-fortress-exclusive-album-stream/
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: PixelDream on September 23, 2013, 08:12:53 AM
Waaaaiting for the stream to appear....

Take a listen!

http://loudwire.com/alter-bridge-fortress-exclusive-album-stream/

WMG blocked this in my country. I was listening to the Soundcloud stream but that one doesn't sound so good. I'll wait until I see a good quality stream.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: OsMosis2259 on September 23, 2013, 08:42:24 AM
Here is another link:
http://www.metalhammer.co.uk/news/uk-exclusive-hear-the-new-alter-bridge-album-right-here/


Do we have a US link for this bad boy? I can't listen :(
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: wasteland on September 23, 2013, 08:43:48 AM
Any chance of an Italian / worldwide link?
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: OsMosis2259 on September 23, 2013, 08:45:04 AM
Youtube stream:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY4eAomKt8Q
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: ariich on September 23, 2013, 09:50:11 AM
HELL YEAH LISTENING NOW
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: PixelDream on September 23, 2013, 09:58:51 AM
Dutch stream here: http://www.lustforlifemagazine.nl/artikelen/specials/9060-exclusieve-stream-nieuwe-album-alter-bridge-

Well, if the element containing the stream will re-appear. I've been trying to listen to this album for over two hours now.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: ariich on September 23, 2013, 10:12:29 AM
This album is seriously rocking so far.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: PixelDream on September 23, 2013, 10:17:41 AM
I managed to listen only to 'Cry of Achilles'. That's enough awesomeness for today. Holy shit.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: OsMosis2259 on September 23, 2013, 10:20:07 AM
Yeah there is a lot of amazing stuff on here to the point where I think it might be their best album to date!

Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: PixelDream on September 23, 2013, 10:30:02 AM
Yeah there is a lot of amazing stuff on here to the point where I think it might be their best album to date!

That's fantastic. All I see elsewhere on the internet, is that people seem to be blown away by this.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: OsMosis2259 on September 23, 2013, 10:34:06 AM
With the exception of maybe one or two tracks, every song seems to have a lot of room to breathe.
Their best song of all time is still Blackbird... It's going to be tough to top that one but I think this one is very interesting to listen to from start to finish!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Mister Gold on September 23, 2013, 10:36:40 AM
With the exception of maybe one or two tracks, every song seems to have a lot of room to breathe.
Their best song of all time is still Blackbird... It's going to be tough to top that one but I think this one is very interesting to listen to from start to finish!

I dunno, there were several songs on Fortress that I thought might give Blackbird a run for its money in my book. Especially Calm the Fire. :metal :hefdaddy
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: OsMosis2259 on September 23, 2013, 10:37:32 AM
Cry of Achilles is up there as well!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: ariich on September 23, 2013, 10:38:02 AM
The riffing on this album is huge. Definitely a couple of songs with a stronger djent influence than they've exhibited in the past.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Mister Gold on September 23, 2013, 10:38:43 AM
Cry of Achilles is up there as well!

Yeah, that was another one. The title track was another contender too, IMO. :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: OsMosis2259 on September 23, 2013, 10:46:09 AM
Bleed it Dry guitar solo  :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: mikeyd23 on September 23, 2013, 10:57:12 AM
Wow, just listened to the whole album! My first impression is that I am very impressed! This album will take a lot more listening to digest but I have to say the boys have done it again, releasing another killer rock record!

I can immediately tell this album will have more staying power than ABIII and will probably wrestle with Blackbird for my favorite AB album.  They really did a great job, mixed up their song writing a little and it sounds like they pulled in lots of different influences too!

Quick highlights from my first listen:

Cry of Achilles: This might be my early favorite on the record, the whole thing is killer with great guitar work throughout and an amazing chorus!

Bleed It Dry: Love the huge heavy riff intro, almost so heavy I didn't think it was AB till the vocals came in! Also probably Marks best solo on the record, he got a real David Gilmour vibe on this one, which provided a great change of pace from the rest of the song.

Lover: Has a killer groove and mood, reminded me a lot of the Mayfield Four.

Calm the Fire: Really interesting intro and riff, sorta sounds like Muse, really different for AB and they pulled it off!

Waters Rising: Classic Mark clean sound in the verses and his vocals work really well with Myles joining him on choruses and then taking over later in the song.

All Ends Well: Beautiful vocal and chorus section!

Fortress: Great guitar work with battling solos, this one will take some time to sink in, but its definitely a great tune!


Those were just a few things that stuck out in my mind with a first listen, can't wait to play this album more and really dive in, but overall I would say these guys haven't let me down at all! This is shaping up to be a great record for the band!!
 :tup
 
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Mister Gold on September 23, 2013, 11:15:37 AM
The cool thing about Calm the Fire was that not only did the band channel their inner Muse during the intro, but the rest of the song sounds like something off of Operation: Mindcrime, done Alter Bridge style. Absolutely insane. :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: OsMosis2259 on September 23, 2013, 12:52:24 PM
Anyone notice that the tracklist on youtube looks a lot more different than the one on wikipedia?
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: PixelDream on September 23, 2013, 01:07:07 PM
This is so cool. I love the three records, although I feel that with ABIII they did little more than just consolidate their strengths. The album had a few amazing tracks but as a whole it got a little samey (Make it Right, Breathe Again are really standard AB tracks). This one seems to be more experimental in nature. I can't wait to hear what they've accomplished.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Basekick on September 23, 2013, 01:22:17 PM
I was able to listen to the entire album just a moment ago in solitude, without knowing nearly anything about the album.

About a third of the way into Cry of Achilles I was the most emotional I have ever been listening to an album. It was incredible. I was filled with such happiness when the chorus hit, and then when it was played a second time with a half-time groove I had goosebumps everywhere with the greatest smile on my face. Unreal.

But it didn't stop there. Song after song, they kept bringing it. The energy, the melodic and confident vocals, the bombastic drums, and the oh so tasty riffs, it was all there one after the other.

This is the best record I have heard in the past decade, hands down. I know I'll be dissecting it for ages, but I doubt my mind will change. It's simply brilliant.

I fucking love this band.

P.S.  The main riff of Peace Is Broken is so god damn filthy. My lord.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: OsMosis2259 on September 23, 2013, 01:36:52 PM
Man the drums sound awesome on this record. Huge improvement from ABIII!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: PixelDream on September 23, 2013, 01:55:42 PM
I'm at the intro of 'Calm the Fire' now. What a great moment.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: PixelDream on September 23, 2013, 02:00:44 PM
Did they cut back on the guitar solos or what? Not a bad move at all, because when they do appear they absolutely slay.

Almost fell asleep during 'Cry a River', not a special song at all IMO. Then 'Farther than the Sun' came on. That's what I'm talking about! What a massive groove!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: OsMosis2259 on September 23, 2013, 02:15:17 PM
Hmm...

From the top of my head...

There are two in Cry of Achilles
One in Addicted to Pain
One in Bleed It Dry
A bunch in Fortress

I need more listens without any distractions but I'm digging the album. I think it is their best!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Basekick on September 23, 2013, 03:02:13 PM
Hmm...

From the top of my head...

There are two in Cry of Achilles
One in Addicted to Pain
One in Bleed It Dry
A bunch in Fortress

I need more listens without any distractions but I'm digging the album. I think it is their best!

Just had my second listen. There is no doubt in my head:  This is their best album. Period.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: PixelDream on September 23, 2013, 03:10:27 PM
Cry of Achilles is definitely a top 5 AB song. The best of emotion and badass in one explosive track.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Mister Gold on September 23, 2013, 03:18:19 PM
Hmm...

From the top of my head...

There are two in Cry of Achilles
One in Addicted to Pain
One in Bleed It Dry
A bunch in Fortress

I need more listens without any distractions but I'm digging the album. I think it is their best!

Just had my second listen. There is no doubt in my head:  This is their best album. Period.

Completely agreed. I'd also say this is almost definitely my Album of the Year. It'd take some sort of miracle or deal from the devil for another band to top this album this year. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: PixelDream on September 23, 2013, 03:29:35 PM
Totally digging 'Lover' as well.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: LCArenas on September 23, 2013, 06:30:45 PM
"Cry of Achilles" aka "How to get your ass kicked in Six Minutes"

JESUS CHRIST I HAVEN'T FELT THIS WAY SINCE TIES THAT BIND, THIS CAN SERIOUSLY BE ON THEIR TOP TEN GREATEST SONGS ALREADY :2metal:
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Accelerando on September 23, 2013, 07:04:03 PM
Fuck, i'm at work, and my shoot just got extended. I've been DYING all goddamnfuckinday to hear this stream!!! I'm glad im reading the responses im reading right now
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Mister Gold on September 23, 2013, 07:27:36 PM
Fuck, i'm at work, and my shoot just got extended. I've been DYING all goddamnfuckinday to hear this stream!!! I'm glad im reading the responses im reading right now

Dude, you're in for a serious treat. This album is insane. :metal :hefdaddy
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Basekick on September 23, 2013, 07:40:40 PM
Honestly, it's between Cry of Achilles and Blackbird for Alter Bridge's best song.

IT'S THAT GOOD.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Mister Gold on September 23, 2013, 08:12:45 PM
Honestly, it's between Cry of Achilles and Blackbird for Alter Bridge's best song.

IT'S THAT GOOD.

I'd be inclined to include Calm the Fire in that running too, and maybe Fortress too. The latter is definitely a grower. :metal But CtF is almost definitely the single best vocal performance I've ever heard from Myles and the song is absolute genius. :hefdaddy
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Heretic on September 23, 2013, 08:29:32 PM
man this album is awesome, such a great groove to most of the song and everything feels a bit more experimental in nature than ABIII

EDIT: All Ends Well is easily my favorite, what a song
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: LCArenas on September 23, 2013, 09:45:30 PM
What I like about this album is the fact that, so far and keeping the fresh album factor in mind, it has no bad songs. There are weak songs: "The Uninvited" and "Cry a River" didn't click on me that much but were good nonetheless: the album is far more consistent and less samey than ABIII, it keeps you wanting to hear more and more.

Also kudos to "Peace is Broken". It keeps the classic "Alter Bridge" brand sound while sounding fresh and exciting at the same time; something that can't be said about some of the songs on ABIII, which only accomplish the former.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Accelerando on September 24, 2013, 12:01:15 AM
Waaahaha, just got home and i immediately grabbed my headphones and I plugged in. i almost cried tears of joy after hearing Cry of Achilles.  Time to start my musical journey with the album. See ya'll on the other side. I can't wait!


EDIT:

Wow. I have to gather my thoughts. It'll have to be sometime tomorrow because it's 2am here in Los Angeles. First of all, I can't wait to hear this album without all the compression. But there is something supremely beautiful about the evolution of this band. It's the right direction to go.

 :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: wolfking on September 24, 2013, 04:14:02 AM
Hmm...

From the top of my head...

There are two in Cry of Achilles
One in Addicted to Pain
One in Bleed It Dry
A bunch in Fortress

I need more listens without any distractions but I'm digging the album. I think it is their best!

Seriously, only 4 songs with solos?  bah!  Looking forward to the weekend so I can get this nevertheless.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Mister Gold on September 24, 2013, 05:23:26 AM
Hmm...

From the top of my head...

There are two in Cry of Achilles
One in Addicted to Pain
One in Bleed It Dry
A bunch in Fortress

I need more listens without any distractions but I'm digging the album. I think it is their best!

Seriously, only 4 songs with solos?  bah!  Looking forward to the weekend so I can get this nevertheless.

There's more solos I think, though I'm not sure how many more. I'm re-listening to the album right now, so I'll let you know. Pretty sure Farther Than the Sun also had a solo too, for starters.

Also the solos on Fortress are terrific! :hefdaddy
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: RuRoRul on September 24, 2013, 05:29:14 AM
Hmm...

From the top of my head...

There are two in Cry of Achilles
One in Addicted to Pain
One in Bleed It Dry
A bunch in Fortress

I need more listens without any distractions but I'm digging the album. I think it is their best!

Seriously, only 4 songs with solos?  bah!  Looking forward to the weekend so I can get this nevertheless.

There's more solos I think, though I'm not sure how many more. I'm re-listening to the album right now, so I'll let you know. Pretty sure Farther Than the Sun also had a solo too, for starters.

Also the solos on Fortress are terrific! :hefdaddy
Waters Rising has a solo, Peace Is Broken has a solo in the end during and after the last chorus, that I can remember off hand. Definitely not just 4 songs with solos, those were probably just the most notable.

Edit: And oh yeah, album is amazing. Not much point trying to say more or pick favourites at this point, there are several candidates for best song, just really enjoying this right now. Album of the year (so far) for me, at least from first impressions.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Mister Gold on September 24, 2013, 05:36:01 AM
Hmm...

From the top of my head...

There are two in Cry of Achilles
One in Addicted to Pain
One in Bleed It Dry
A bunch in Fortress

I need more listens without any distractions but I'm digging the album. I think it is their best!

Seriously, only 4 songs with solos?  bah!  Looking forward to the weekend so I can get this nevertheless.

There's more solos I think, though I'm not sure how many more. I'm re-listening to the album right now, so I'll let you know. Pretty sure Farther Than the Sun also had a solo too, for starters.

Also the solos on Fortress are terrific! :hefdaddy
Waters Rising has a solo, Peace Is Broken has a solo in the end during and after the last chorus, that I can remember off hand. Definitely not just 4 songs with solos, those were probably just the most notable.

Yeah, that sounds about right.

Cry of Achilles
Addicted to Pain
Bleed It Dry
Peace Is Broken
Waters Rising
Farther Than The Sun
Fortress

So that's 7 out of 12 at least, with maybe one or two more. I know Calm the Fire doesn't have a solo and I don't think The Uninvited has one either. Not sure about Cry A River or All Ends Well. Lover kinda has a brief bluesy solo/lick in-between the first and second verse, but I don't know if that counts or not.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: RuRoRul on September 24, 2013, 05:50:08 AM
Hmm...

From the top of my head...

There are two in Cry of Achilles
One in Addicted to Pain
One in Bleed It Dry
A bunch in Fortress

I need more listens without any distractions but I'm digging the album. I think it is their best!

Seriously, only 4 songs with solos?  bah!  Looking forward to the weekend so I can get this nevertheless.

There's more solos I think, though I'm not sure how many more. I'm re-listening to the album right now, so I'll let you know. Pretty sure Farther Than the Sun also had a solo too, for starters.

Also the solos on Fortress are terrific! :hefdaddy
Waters Rising has a solo, Peace Is Broken has a solo in the end during and after the last chorus, that I can remember off hand. Definitely not just 4 songs with solos, those were probably just the most notable.

Yeah, that sounds about right.

Cry of Achilles
Addicted to Pain
Bleed It Dry
Peace Is Broken
Waters Rising
Farther Than The Sun
Fortress

So that's 7 out of 12 at least, with maybe one or two more. I know Calm the Fire doesn't have a solo and I don't think The Uninvited has one either. Not sure about Cry A River or All Ends Well. Lover kinda has a brief bluesy solo/lick in-between the first and second verse, but I don't know if that counts or not.
Just finished Cry A River on a listen through and it also has a solo after the last chorus. So yeah, plenty of them on the album.  :tup
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: ariich on September 24, 2013, 06:32:14 AM
There are loads of solos on this album, definitely more than half the songs, and some of the songs have more than one solo. Dunno what people are on about!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Mister Gold on September 24, 2013, 07:05:47 AM
There are loads of solos on this album, definitely more than half the songs, and some of the songs have more than one solo. Dunno what people are on about!

Yeah, this. I will also add that the songs without any solos are also brilliant, especially Calm the Fire. Myles sings his ass off on that song and the riff-a-rama on that track sounds like it's straight off of Mindcrime! :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: OsMosis2259 on September 24, 2013, 07:55:06 AM
There are loads of solos on this album, definitely more than half the songs, and some of the songs have more than one solo. Dunno what people are on about!

ha yeah there are a lot of solos! I just mentioned the ones that stood out at the first couple listens :)
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: ariich on September 24, 2013, 08:30:19 AM
There are loads of solos on this album, definitely more than half the songs, and some of the songs have more than one solo. Dunno what people are on about!

Yeah, this. I will also add that the songs without any solos are also brilliant, especially Calm the Fire. Myles sings his ass off on that song and the riff-a-rama on that track sounds like it's straight off of Mindcrime! :metal
Calm the Fire is so good!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: mikeyd23 on September 24, 2013, 08:44:43 AM
Calm the Fire is so good!

Yeah I'm really loving that song too! Great to see all the positive reactions to this record, I've listened to it several times all the way through and I am really loving it! It keeps getting better each time!

Great job AB!  :tup
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: OsMosis2259 on September 24, 2013, 09:13:08 AM
Preordered from Best Buy as well :)
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: PixelDream on September 24, 2013, 02:11:37 PM
'Cry of Achilles' is an instant classic. Best song since 'Blackbird' for me. Almost as good, which is saying a lot.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Heretic on September 24, 2013, 03:32:41 PM
Yeah, this album rules. Lover is such a MF4 song, and the experimentation on Calm the Fire just blows me away. Such a step up from the last two albums.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: wolfking on September 24, 2013, 03:55:44 PM
There are loads of solos on this album, definitely more than half the songs, and some of the songs have more than one solo. Dunno what people are on about!

That's good to hear.  Not that it's a huge issue, but I feel Tremonti always kind of short changed himself in the way of guitar solos.  Great to see such positive reviews for this.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Lowdz on September 24, 2013, 04:25:54 PM
i've tried AB before and never really liked it. This album is really good though. Good job Mrs Lowdz has just got a new job  ;D
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: The Trooper on September 25, 2013, 06:48:07 AM
Amazing album. Listened  to it 2 times on my run this morning.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Anguyen92 on September 25, 2013, 09:05:44 AM
Well, well, look the guitar powers we got here on a French magazine cover.  I found this via Mark's twitter.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BVAwhX-CYAEftW7.png)
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: OsMosis2259 on September 25, 2013, 12:15:19 PM
 :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Accelerando on September 25, 2013, 06:32:02 PM
That's a damn fine cover
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: ariich on September 26, 2013, 07:41:14 AM
Haven't seen it mentioned yet, but there are some epic vocal moments on this album. Really great performances from Myles!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: mikeyd23 on September 26, 2013, 09:22:10 AM
Haven't seen it mentioned yet, but there are some epic vocal moments on this album. Really great performances from Myles!

Yes, absolutely! I think what I really am digging about this album the more I listen to it is the fact that every member has the opportunity (or in this case several opportunities) to really shine.

Myles has SO many great vocal moments and also plenty of great guitar moments too, with solos and his amazing intro for CoA, just to name a few.

Mark has a ton of great signature Tremonti riffs and solos, several of which are among the best he's done, not to mention a lead vocal spot for the first time on an AB record!

Brian lays down some great bass grooves through out the album and has moments to shine through like in CoA, where the distorted bass part carries the band into the bridge.

Flip sounds simply amazing as well.  To say his drumming has improved since ABIII would be a large understatement.  Plenty of great grooves with Brian throughout, and his feet seem to have improved quite a bit and he really used that to highlight some of the guitar riffs in ways he previously never did.

All around great performances by the entire band!  :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: PixelDream on September 26, 2013, 12:36:48 PM
Absolutely amazing, addictive album. I care just a little bit less about 'Peace is Broken', 'Cry A River' and 'All Ends Well'. Those three aren't bad songs by any means, but the rest is brilliant. Especially the first and last track. CoA and the title track definitely live up to the grandeur of THE song by Alter Bridge, 'Blackbird'. Those tracks aren't copying Blackbird in any way, but I feel a similar emotion in both tracks. Maybe I'd lump 'Words Darker Than Their Wings' in there too.

Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: wolfking on September 26, 2013, 03:13:03 PM
Mark has a ton of great signature Tremonti riffs and solos, several of which are among the best he's done, not to mention a lead vocal spot for the first time on an AB record

What about Words Darker Than Their Wings?
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Mister Gold on September 26, 2013, 03:16:22 PM
Mark has a ton of great signature Tremonti riffs and solos, several of which are among the best he's done, not to mention a lead vocal spot for the first time on an AB record

What about Words Darker Than Their Wings?

Pretty sure Myles sings a bit more than Mark does on that song. I always considered WDTTW to be more of a duet.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: wolfking on September 26, 2013, 03:19:25 PM
Fair enough.  I haven't heard Fortress but just was wondering about that comment since Mark did in fact sing some lead vocals on that song.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: LCArenas on September 26, 2013, 05:40:11 PM
I'm really digging Lover. A Great, heartbroken, powerful song.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: mikeyd23 on September 27, 2013, 11:33:23 AM
Mark has a ton of great signature Tremonti riffs and solos, several of which are among the best he's done, not to mention a lead vocal spot for the first time on an AB record

What about Words Darker Than Their Wings?

Mark really just has a small section of the verses that he sings, I would say Myles sings 75 to 85 percent of that song.  What I meant was this was a TRUE lead vocal spot for him, taking both the first and second verse and all the choruses as the lead.  Really all Myles does is harmonies and lead on the bridge, so this song would be more like 75 percent of Mark leading.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: wolfking on September 27, 2013, 04:17:14 PM
That's cool man.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: PixelDream on September 27, 2013, 04:30:55 PM
Mark has a ton of great signature Tremonti riffs and solos, several of which are among the best he's done, not to mention a lead vocal spot for the first time on an AB record

What about Words Darker Than Their Wings?

Mark really just has a small section of the verses that he sings, I would say Myles sings 75 to 85 percent of that song.  What I meant was this was a TRUE lead vocal spot for him, taking both the first and second verse and all the choruses as the lead.  Really all Myles does is harmonies and lead on the bridge, so this song would be more like 75 percent of Mark leading.

As good as the record is, Mark taking the lead vocally in one song is more than welcome. His vocals are very good and powerful. But that moment when Myles takes the bridge is easily one of my favorite moments on the record. These guys have really grown to bring out the best of both personalities. Vocally and guitar-wise too (the solos in the title track for instance).
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: wolfking on September 27, 2013, 04:40:11 PM
Well, Crucify me, but I prefer Mark's voice to Myles'.  Tremonti's solo record is my fav thing from him.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: wolfking on September 29, 2013, 04:28:09 AM
Picked this up and am half way through it on my first listen.  There's a lot of music here and will definitely need a few listens to digest, but so far, I'm really impressed. 

COA was good but I need to hear it again.  Very different and original for AB.  Addicted to Pain has grown on me a lot.  Bleed it Dry is a highlight with an amazing Tremonti solo.  Lover was also something different but welcome.  The Uninvited was cool with a killer riff.  Peace is Broken might be my fav so far, great melodies and some classic AB in there.

Just finished Calm the Fire and that is also a highlight, what a fucking riff!  :hefdaddy
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: wolfking on September 29, 2013, 04:59:18 AM
The album drops off a little in the second half.  Wasn't too keen on Waters Rising, Cry a River or All Ends Well, but Father Than the Sun is incredibly heavy and the title track is amazing.  That middle section is killer.  Seriously some amazing head banging riffs on this album.  Impressed on first listen.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Mister Gold on September 29, 2013, 07:26:34 AM
The album just gets better and better with repeated listens, IMO. :tup Cry of Achilles has grown so much on me since the first listen, and I think it might be my favorite AB song to date. On the other hand, Calm the Fire and Fortress both get better and better the more I listen to them too. :hefdaddy Dare I say it, but I seriously think the band might have topped the song Blackbird not just once, but three times on this album! :omg: :hefdaddy

Also Waters Rising really grew on me, wolfking. I see it as a companion piece to Bleed It Dry as a two-part story on the album about the apocalypse. :metal :hefdaddy :biggrin: Likewise, I see Calm the Fire as being a response to The Uninvited.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: wolfking on September 29, 2013, 02:56:11 PM
So you think this album is like a mini concept album?
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Mister Gold on September 29, 2013, 03:12:27 PM
So you think this album is like a mini concept album?


I'm not sure. But I do think a couple songs are directly related to one another.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: OsMosis2259 on September 30, 2013, 09:22:14 AM
I think the new AB could possible beat DT12 :)
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Accelerando on September 30, 2013, 12:51:33 PM
Man. Calm The Fire. Could be my favorite track on this record. Certainly my favorite Myles vocal performance in a long time
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: wolfking on September 30, 2013, 03:24:10 PM
I think the new AB could possible beat DT12 :)

No chance of that for me.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Basekick on September 30, 2013, 06:01:34 PM
I think the new AB could possible beat DT12 :)

Could?

It's without a doubt for me.  I have given it about 6-7 listens so far, and I'm debating where it ranks for my favorite albums EVER.

I really feel like the band wrote this record asking themselves "Can we write the perfect album for Basekick?"

IMO, the most underrated part of this incredible album is both the drum production and overall feel.  I listened to ABIII and Blackbird after digesting a lot of Fortress, and the grooves are a lot more mid-tempo, with less dynamics and rarely grooving in half-time.  In contrast, Fortress features half-time in what seems like every song on the album, not to mention a consistent fluid change between tempos to give each riff, melody, and section its own feel.

Furthermore, the sound of the drums on Fortress are absolutely HUGE.  It reminds me a bit of dubstep in a way, since there is an immense focus on a giant, thundering, and spacious kick drum, followed by a vicious and roaring snare.

I highly recommend taking a spin of the record and only listening to Flip play.  It's incredible.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Accelerando on September 30, 2013, 07:40:15 PM
I just love the leap they took with this record. I feel like ABlll was trying make it so with tracks like Slip To The Void and All Hope Is Gone, but never could break out of the shell. With fortress, the shell was broken and has unleashed a beast of an album to the world.

Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Mister Gold on September 30, 2013, 09:35:26 PM
I think the new AB could possible beat DT12 :)

Could?

It's without a doubt for me.  I have given it about 6-7 listens so far, and I'm debating where it ranks for my favorite albums EVER.

I really feel like the band wrote this record asking themselves "Can we write the perfect album for Basekick?"

IMO, the most underrated part of this incredible album is both the drum production and overall feel.  I listened to ABIII and Blackbird after digesting a lot of Fortress, and the grooves are a lot more mid-tempo, with less dynamics and rarely grooving in half-time.  In contrast, Fortress features half-time in what seems like every song on the album, not to mention a consistent fluid change between tempos to give each riff, melody, and section its own feel.

Furthermore, the sound of the drums on Fortress are absolutely HUGE.  It reminds me a bit of dubstep in a way, since there is an immense focus on a giant, thundering, and spacious kick drum, followed by a vicious and roaring snare.

I highly recommend taking a spin of the record and only listening to Flip play.  It's incredible.


I'm right there with you. This is seriously rivaling Bruce Dickinson's The Chemical Wedding as my new favorite album. It's an absolute masterpiece of an album. :metal :hefdaddy
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Accelerando on October 01, 2013, 01:19:11 PM
This has been a great year for music for my taste, and Fortress is the icing on the cake!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: mikeyd23 on October 01, 2013, 01:53:45 PM
This album keeps growing on me more and more!!!

Can't wait to pick it up at Best Buy next Tuesday to get the exclusive bonus track of "Outright" as well!!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Accelerando on October 03, 2013, 04:13:08 PM
4 more days until I can get my hands on the hardcopy!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: sylvan on October 03, 2013, 06:06:42 PM
I'm getting ready to head to Orlando tomorrow.  I'll drive down in the morning, spend the day at Epcot for the Food and Wine Festival.  Drinks around the world, son :hat.  Then on to my first Alter Bridge concert in 5 years :metal.  It's gonna be (high voice) "awesome!"
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Accelerando on October 04, 2013, 01:32:14 AM
You enjoy it my friend. I just moved from Orlando to L.A., and this is going to be the first year I'm going to miss the Epcot International Food & Wine Festival. Have a Hawaiian Pork Slider for me!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: wolfking on October 04, 2013, 04:16:25 AM
This album keeps growing on me the more I listen to it, it's fantastic.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: OsMosis2259 on October 04, 2013, 08:07:41 AM
Hopefully there will be a big US tour as well! I really need to see these guys live
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Basekick on October 04, 2013, 08:24:38 AM
Hopefully there will be a big US tour as well! I really need to see these guys live

I've already seen them three times, but I am absolutely DYING to see them again for the inevitable US tour.  Should be incredible.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Accelerando on October 04, 2013, 02:24:28 PM
Do ya'll think there might be a tour with Dream Theater next year? These two bands and it's members seem to be collaborating lately, also being billed on the same record label. That would be some show!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Anguyen92 on October 04, 2013, 03:46:42 PM
Do ya'll think there might be a tour with Dream Theater next year? These two bands and it's members seem to be collaborating lately, also being billed on the same record label. That would be some show!

I like that idea.

However, one concern in order for a tour, like this, to work would be time.  AB is only touring for a limited amount of time before Myles is going to work with Slash, again, and Mark wants to do more stuff with his solo band.  I'm sure AB wants to headline as many shows as they possibly can and play as much new material as they can.  Which means that them being an opening or supporting band for a month or two may not pan out, as well, in the timeline.

If there were no other projects in queue for late 2014, I can totally see an AB/DT tour working and selling like 5-6k people per venue.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: ariich on October 04, 2013, 04:17:54 PM
Seeing them in two weeks! :caffeine:

Should be a really fun gig, both the support bands make very enjoyable music as well (Shinedown and Halestorm).
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: sylvan on October 05, 2013, 08:13:27 AM
That show was so good , son :metal.  Myles hasn't sounded that good in a while.  Truly amazing.  My heart rate is still reset by Brian's bass.  The heaviness was greater than any other AB shoe I've seen.

Addicted to Pain
White Knuckles
Come to Life
Before Tomorrow Comes
Farther Than the Sun
Brand New Start
Cry of Achilles
Ghosts of Days Gone By
The Uninvited
Ties That Bind
Cry a River
Blackbird
Rise today
-Marriage proposal
Isolation
Slip to the Void.
One Day Remains (thought they might not play it and I was getting nervous)
Open Your Eyes
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: sylvan on October 05, 2013, 08:39:48 AM
In case I didn't mention it...MYLES OMG!  MYLES OMG!  MYLES OMG!  MYLES OMG!

 :hefdaddy  :metal :hefdaddy :metal :hefdaddy :metal :hefdaddy
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: mikeyd23 on October 05, 2013, 01:55:09 PM
That show was so good , son :metal.  Myles hasn't sounded that good in a while.  Truly amazing.  My heart rate is still reset by Brian's bass.  The heaviness was greater than any other AB shoe I've seen.

Addicted to Pain
White Knuckles
Come to Life
Before Tomorrow Comes
Farther Than the Sun
Brand New Start
Cry of Achilles
Ghosts of Days Gone By
The Uninvited
Ties That Bind
Cry a River
Blackbird
Rise today
-Marriage proposal
Isolation
Slip to the Void.
One Day Remains (thought they might not play it and I was getting nervous)
Open Your Eyes

Sweet!!! I just watched some YouTube videos from the show and the band sounded amazing! The only thing that struck me as weird was the stage setup. Why was Myles not center stage ?! The whole stage setup looked really awkward with no one really in the middle of the stage... And Myles had to keep walking back and forth... They tucked their frontman in the back corner of the stage! Really odd!.... Hopefully this was just a one time thing for this one-off show and their full tour show production will be back to a normal stage setup!

The new songs sounded great though from what I've heard so far!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Anguyen92 on October 05, 2013, 02:28:35 PM

Sweet!!! I just watched some YouTube videos from the show and the band sounded amazing! The only thing that struck me as weird was the stage setup. Why was Myles not center stage ?! The whole stage setup looked really awkward with no one really in the middle of the stage... And Myles had to keep walking back and forth... They tucked their frontman in the back corner of the stage! Really odd!.... Hopefully this was just a one time thing for this one-off show and their full tour show production will be back to a normal stage setup!

The new songs sounded great though from what I've heard so far!

I think it's probably due to Flip's drum sound affecting Myles' hearing when he is position center stage and they probably think that Myles moving, from the audience angle, to the left side of the stage, may help it?  Just a hypothesis, here.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Accelerando on October 05, 2013, 09:45:58 PM
Bummed All Hope Is Gone was no where in that set. That should be a staple song!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: mikeyd23 on October 06, 2013, 09:31:37 AM
I think it's probably due to Flip's drum sound affecting Myles' hearing when he is position center stage and they probably think that Myles moving, from the audience angle, to the left side of the stage, may help it?  Just a hypothesis, here.

Yeah that's true, I guess I just figured they would put the drum shield back up around Flips cymbals like they did last tour... But maybe the problem with Myles' ears is worse.  The set up just looked real awkward to me, but it was just a one-off show so we will see what they do for the tour.

They sounded great though which is the important part, can't wait to see some US tour dates!!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Accelerando on October 08, 2013, 01:22:14 AM
ITS HERE!!!

God it sounds great without all that compression from the youtube album stream. Brian's bassplaying has such a strong, prominent presence.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Basekick on October 08, 2013, 09:14:22 AM
Just listened to 'Ouright' online, and I'm a bit happy they left it off the main album.

It sounds like it fits well into the ABIII tracks, and by no means is a bad song, but it's probably the worst of the Fortress songs.  Maybe Cry a River is right there as well, but the other 11 tracks of Fortress are miles ahead of it.

I can't wait to get my copy of Fortress in the mail today!  The sole complaint I have with the album is the lack of audio depth in the mix, and I have a good feeling that the CD version will be a lot better than the stream.

 :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: OsMosis2259 on October 08, 2013, 11:55:18 AM
Got my hard copy yesterday. The album sounds MASSIVE in the car  :metal

Every time the bridge/ending riff of Addicted to Pain comes on, I can't stop nodding my head!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Mister Gold on October 08, 2013, 11:56:59 AM
Just listened to 'Ouright' online, and I'm a bit happy they left it off the main album.

It sounds like it fits well into the ABIII tracks, and by no means is a bad song, but it's probably the worst of the Fortress songs.  Maybe Cry a River is right there as well, but the other 11 tracks of Fortress are miles ahead of it.

I can't wait to get my copy of Fortress in the mail today!  The sole complaint I have with the album is the lack of audio depth in the mix, and I have a good feeling that the CD version will be a lot better than the stream.

 :metal :metal :metal

I actually thought of One Day Remains when I listened to Outright. However, I agree that it's for the best that they left it off the main album. Really doesn't fit well with the rest of Fortress.

My copy should come in the mail in the next couple of hours or so. Pretty excited! :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: mikeyd23 on October 08, 2013, 12:17:08 PM
As soon as I get off work today, I'm heading straight to Best Buy to pick up Fortress with the bonus track, I cant wait!!  :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: wolfking on October 08, 2013, 02:56:33 PM
IMO the cd production and/or mastering sounds pretty messy.  All the instruments seem to just blend together into one big blur at times.  It could have used a little more bottom end too.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: lordxizor on October 08, 2013, 03:30:44 PM
6 tracks into my first listen. First impression: Holy shit!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Basekick on October 08, 2013, 03:39:50 PM
6 tracks into my first listen. First impression: Holy shit!

I had the very same reaction  :D
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: OsMosis2259 on October 08, 2013, 05:23:56 PM
IMO the cd production and/or mastering sounds pretty messy.  All the instruments seem to just blend together into one big blur at times.  It could have used a little more bottom end too.

I actually think this is the best sounding AB album  :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: ariich on October 09, 2013, 12:32:48 AM
IMO the cd production and/or mastering sounds pretty messy.  All the instruments seem to just blend together into one big blur at times.  It could have used a little more bottom end too.

I actually think this is the best sounding AB album  :metal
Same here. I mean, it's pretty loud as all Roadrunner albums are, but it's very clear and crisp and powerful.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: wolfking on October 09, 2013, 04:13:29 AM
Funny that, just at times it seems messy, but overall I still think it sounds decent enough.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Mister Gold on October 09, 2013, 05:26:26 AM
IMO the cd production and/or mastering sounds pretty messy.  All the instruments seem to just blend together into one big blur at times.  It could have used a little more bottom end too.

I actually think this is the best sounding AB album  :metal
Same here. I mean, it's pretty loud as all Roadrunner albums are, but it's very clear and crisp and powerful.

Yeah, I just listened to three songs off the album in my dad's Honda on the drive up to my campus. It sounded fantastic. :hefdaddy
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: PixelDream on October 09, 2013, 06:22:42 AM
My first reaction was that this album's production is fantastic. But when compared to ABIII, it really isn't much better. When I put on 'Still Remains', and the riff comes in, air is moved. You can hear everything clearly, every instrument has space (while still being a loud master). This one is a little muddy (Fortress), but it is by no means unacceptable.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Mister Gold on October 09, 2013, 07:24:37 AM
I'm watching some low quality bootlegs of the Orlando show on YouTube right now, and I noticed that the new songs REALLY come to life in a live setting. Hell, the band played the two songs most people think are the weakest on the album, and those songs sound terrific live! The band really knocked it out of the ballpark with this album! :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: mikeyd23 on October 09, 2013, 07:56:21 AM
Got the album last night after work, it sounded smoking hot in my car!! I had listened to the stream of the album quite a bit, so I was pretty familiar with the songs, but the sound was obviously greatly improved moving from the stream to the actual CD.

As far as the production is concerned, I think its pretty good! The mix is better overall than ABIII.  On ABIII I really struggled to hear the bass and drums at times and I felt like that hurt the way some of the songs translated on the recording.  Having that nice big sounding rhythm section is so important.  Fortress seems to have fixed that issue, as the drums and bass are much more audible and seem to sit in a nice spot in the mix with all the guitar layers. 

I will certainly agree that it is a hot Road Runner-style master, which does at times seem to hurt the overall sound quality and makes things a little messy at points, but overall I would say that I like the production.  Definitely a step in the right direction from the AB guys sonically as well as musically, IMO.

Now having the CD and being able to crank it in my car, a few songs really stand out to me. 

Bleed it Dry- Absolutely killer track, super heavy and then the breakdown to Myles playing those jazzy chords and Marks solo, great stuff there.

Lover - Listening to this song on the stream, I liked it.  The first time listening to it in my car, full volume, I was blown away.  Goosebumps the entire song, and it almost brought me to tears, gorgeous track.

Cry of Achilles - Can't say enough good things about this track, the different arrangements, the big, soaring chorus, Myles' guitar solo, all great stuff from the guys.

All Ends Well - I think this song is great, and it really stands out compared to the tone of the rest of the album.  Really great chorus here from Myles and some interesting lyrics, I liked it a lot.

I only listened to the album through All Ends Well, so I still haven't heard the title track Fortress properly yet (heard it on the stream, but playing this album full volume, full quality is proving to unlock many of these songs for me).  Also, I haven't gotten to the bonus track "Outright" yet either.

Still more to go and I can safely say that this is an absolutely brilliant effort from AB! Loving it!  :metal :metal
 
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Anguyen92 on October 09, 2013, 11:12:43 AM
Awwwwwwww, yeah.  This is the album of the year for me. Loving Addicted to Pain, Waters Rising, All Ends Well, Title Track, and Cry of Achilles.

I'm going cry in tears of joy.  This album makes me happy.  Obviously, well worth the price of buying it.  :metal

Edit: Here are my thoughts while I was listening to this in its entirety.

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All right, Cry of Achilles. Holy Crap, what a start. For a 6:30 min. song, it doesn't feel that way. That Bass in the beginning in the bridge. Magnificent. The two solos are just greatness.

Addicted to Pain - Good idea to put this as the single.

Bleed it Dry. Good tempo, to somewhat slow things down. Pretty similar tempo to All Hope Is Gone. Wow, the time signatures is all over the place with this one.

Only three songs in, and of course, this is my album of the year.

Lover is dark. I love it. Wow, this bridge lyrics has a lot of attitude in it. This is probably one of the few instances that I like that there's no solo. Wouldn't have fitted the mood.

The Uninvited - Pretty Haunting. Good background vocal pitch from Mark, I think.

Loving the chorus and bridge verse from Peace is Broken. Another well played solo, as well.

Halfway done. This is a good winner.

Calm the Fire. That's a nice little nugget in the first 1:20 min. Probably the best song so far. The little synth nods are all right.

Waters Rising - Good guitar riff. Mark's vocals are pretty good. This is probably the most enjoyable, for me to listen to, song of the album, so far. Reminds me a bit of White Knuckles.

Farther than the Sun sounds like this could be their 2nd single of the album cycle. Yeah, this is going to be most likely their next single.

Cry a River pretty much solidifies the theme of the album. So much anger towards this one person. I'm loving it.

All Ends Well. Time for the ballad, baby. Quite the 180 degree turn from the last song. I'm loving it. For once, I'm not going to cry (NVM, I did cry. Tears of Joy, not sorrow this time). Finally, an AB ballad that shows that light as oppose to finding that light at the end of the tunnel. This might be the 3rd or 4th single to fit the alternative rock radio song bill. Now that I think of it, this reminds me a bit of Shinedown's Amaryllis (song).

Sounds like All Ends Well is the closer, however, one more to go (well, technically, two more to go). Time for them to shoot for epic with title track.

Oh yeah, the chorus is probably the best one of the album. The Fortress is coming down, baby!!!!! Well, this is a sudden change of pace in the time signature. Right into the solo!!! The only thing we can't say about this album is that they did rely too heavily on the verse-chorus-verse-chorus-bridge-chorus-solo formula.

The funny about that 7:30 song. I actually wanted that song to be a little longer, it's that good.

Turbomegladong (Outright) is pretty solid as a b-side, but like most would say, it would not really fit in the actual album. It's still a great track. Never say die, on anything.

I retract my last statement about All Ends Well would have closed it, Outright could have easily done a better job of being a closer.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Accelerando on October 09, 2013, 03:21:38 PM
I'm in the love with the duel guitar solos on the title track. God, i can't wait to see THAT live
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Nel on October 09, 2013, 04:24:02 PM
Best Buy version is a go!  :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: wolfking on October 09, 2013, 10:34:24 PM
My first reaction was that this album's production is fantastic. But when compared to ABIII, it really isn't much better. When I put on 'Still Remains', and the riff comes in, air is moved. You can hear everything clearly, every instrument has space (while still being a loud master). This one is a little muddy (Fortress), but it is by no means unacceptable.

Yes.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Accelerando on October 10, 2013, 01:10:40 AM
I can't stop listening to this beautiful album. So heavy, melodic, and ANGRY. Besides the experimentation with arrangements, the lyrics are what surprises me the most.

So far, my top songs are

1. Calm The Fire
2. Cry of Achilles
3. Bleed It Dry
4. Lover
5. Fortress
6. Waters Rising
7. The Uninvited
8. Farther Than The Sun
9. Addicted To Pain
10. All Ends Well
11. Cry A River
12. Peace Is Broken
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: wolfking on October 10, 2013, 04:43:02 AM
Peace is Broken your least fav?  It's probably top 3 for me.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: mikeyd23 on October 10, 2013, 07:47:36 AM
My first reaction was that this album's production is fantastic. But when compared to ABIII, it really isn't much better. When I put on 'Still Remains', and the riff comes in, air is moved. You can hear everything clearly, every instrument has space (while still being a loud master). This one is a little muddy (Fortress), but it is by no means unacceptable.

Yes.

I can see what you are saying in regards to the master on Fortress seeming to be a little muddy when everything kicks in at times, but I would say the actual mix on Fortress is better than the mix on ABIII, IMO.  ABIII lost the power of the rhythm section at times due to the mix, Fortress remedied that for me.

Peace is Broken your least fav?  It's probably top 3 for me.

I actually would probably consider Peace is Broken one of my least favorites on the record as well, its definitely not a bad song, there are just a lot of songs that I like more than it.  The vocal effects they used on Myles' voice in the verses of that track are a little weird for me too...

I think its still too soon for me to rank all the songs on the album though, I'm very much still digesting it.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Basekick on October 10, 2013, 08:20:35 AM
I can't stop listening to this beautiful album. So heavy, melodic, and ANGRY. Besides the experimentation with arrangements, the lyrics are what surprises me the most.

So far, my top songs are

1. Calm The Fire
2. Cry of Achilles
3. Bleed It Dry
4. Lover
5. Fortress
6. Waters Rising
7. The Uninvited
8. Farther Than The Sun
9. Addicted To Pain
10. All Ends Well
11. Cry A River
12. Peace Is Broken

Not a bad list, but mine is a bit different after the top 3:

1. Cry Of Achilles
2. Calm The Fire
3. Bleed It Dry
4. Farther Than The Sun
5. Peace Is Broken
6. Addicted To Pain
7. Lover
8. Fortress
9. All Ends Well
10. Water's Rising
11. Uninvited
12. Cry A River

I absolutely love this album, and the only track that I would consider not 'incredible' would by Cry A River.  It just has the least going for it.

I'm not a huge fan of Uninvited either, as the main riff isn't as strong as some of the other songs, and the bridge doesn't connect with me nearly as well as on, say Water's Rising, which is EXPLOSIVE.

I probably rank Peace Is Broken, Farther Than The Sun, and Addicted To Pain higher than most.  This harkens to my love of super heavy riffs and immense grooves to back them up.  The openings of PIB and FttS are blissful in this regard, and the bridge/outro of AtP is heavenly.

Lover and All Ends Well are both moving and strong songs, and creatively deliver some anthemic choruses without sounding generic or boring.  Neither has that extra bit of magic, but they are both solid tracks that keep the album well above the rest.  The former gets the edge for me due to Myles' gorgeous delivery, which add yet another layer to an already excellent song.

Fortress doesn't get the same love from me, since I don't get fully hooked until the bridge, which only shines through the 4 solos.  The rest of the song isn't bad, of course, but I like the melodies, riffs, and choruses of a lot of other songs more.

At the end of the day though, Cry of Achilles might be my favorite song they ever made.  Yes, more than Blackbird.  It simply has absolutely everything you'd want in a song and doesn't let up it's unbelievable emotion for a moment.  Might be one of the best hard rock tracks in a very long time.

And let's not forget Calm The Fire, which has a addictive intro that pulls you in from the first phrase.  It has some amazing passages, especially the pre-chorus leading into the monstrous chorus, and keeps you captivated throughout.

Last but not least, Bleed it Dry it's simply genius.  The pulsating groove of the main riff mixed with the unique drumming from Flip really makes this song hit hard.  What's remarkable to me is that the chorus starts with one bar in 4/4 then switches to 6/8 in the final bar without you even noticing.  Top that off with a passionate bridge that builds up with two of the best solos on the record, and BAM, you have a top 3 track.

This album is incredible.  I stand by my original reaction when I said this is the band's best album, and my favorite of the past decade.  It's the album I wished I wrote as a musician myself.

Simply put, Fortress is the album every band in the alternative metal/hard rock world dreamed they created.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: OsMosis2259 on October 10, 2013, 09:15:40 AM
I think this is my list after hearing the album 6-7 times. All tracks are great though and I am not skipping anything at all.

1. Cry Of Achilles
2. Bleed It Dry
3. Lover
4. Fortress
5. Calm The Fire
6. Addicted To Pain
7. Water's Rising
8. Peace Is Broken
9. Uninvited
10. Farther Than The Sun
11. All Ends Well
12. Cry A River
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: PixelDream on October 10, 2013, 11:29:15 AM
Epic

1. Cry of Achilles
2. Fortress

Epic but just a little less

3. Water's Rising
4. Bleed it Dry
5. Lover
6. Calm the Fire

Groovy

7. The Uninvited
8. Farther than the Sun
9. Addicted to Pain

Meh

10. Peace is Broken
11. All Ends Well

Don't care

12. Cry a River
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: ariich on October 10, 2013, 01:13:58 PM
I can't stop listening to this beautiful album. So heavy, melodic, and ANGRY. Besides the experimentation with arrangements, the lyrics are what surprises me the most.

So far, my top songs are

1. Calm The Fire
2. Cry of Achilles
3. Bleed It Dry
4. Lover
5. Fortress
6. Waters Rising
7. The Uninvited
8. Farther Than The Sun
9. Addicted To Pain
10. All Ends Well
11. Cry A River
12. Peace Is Broken
Wow, this is so close to mine, but I'd definitely have Peace is Broken a few places higher, and same with Addicted to Pain. Spot on with the top 4 though!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: wolfking on October 10, 2013, 05:47:04 PM
At the moment;

1. Fortress
2. Farther Than the Sun
3. Peace is Broken
4. Cry of Achilles
5. Bleed it Dry
6. Calm the Fire
7. Addicted to Pain
8. The Uninvited
9. All Ends Well
10. Cry A River
11. Lover
12. Waters Rising
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: mikeyd23 on October 11, 2013, 10:10:12 AM
All right, I've listened to the album several more times since my last post and I feel like I can make a ranking of the tracks.  This may change in the near future, but after having this album blasting in my car this week, this is where I stand with my rankings:

1. Cry of Achilles
2. Fortress
3. Bleed It Dry
4. Lover
5. Calm the Fire
6. Addicted to Pain
7. Waters Rising
8. Farther Than the Sun
9. The Uninvited
10. All Ends Well
11. Cry a River
12. Peace is Broken

That was actually pretty tough! My first few choices have become clear to me, but tracks 7-11 on my ranking are all really close together in terms of how much I enjoy them. 

Overall, there isn't a bad song on this album, IMO!  Great, great stuff!! Loving it more with every listen still  :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Heretic on October 11, 2013, 02:18:42 PM
1. Calm the Fire
2. Cry of Achilles
3. Lover
4. Fortress
5. Bleed It Dry
6. Waters Rising
7. All Ends Well
8. Father Than the Sun
9. The Uninvited
10. Addicted to Pain
11. Cry a River
12. Peace is Broken
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: RuRoRul on October 11, 2013, 03:27:00 PM
1. Fortress
2. Calm The Fire
3. Cry Of Achilles
4. Waters Rising
5. Bleed It Dry
6. Lover
7. All Ends Well
8. Peace Is Broken
9. Addicted To Pain
10. Farther Than The Sun
11. The Uninvited
12. Cry A River

To be honest any one of the "big three" of this album could be my favourite, my thoughts on which one it might be change with every few listens. Right now it's Calm The Fire that's in highest regard (as it was on very first listen) but a few days ago I was reconsidering if Cry Of Achilles may be the best... all very good songs. Keeping Fortress at the top right now, it really grew on me after a few listens and it's a beast of a song.

Edit: Nice top seven there Heretic  :tup
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: wolfking on October 11, 2013, 04:11:28 PM
I'm astounded at the rankings of Peace is Broken.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: RuRoRul on October 11, 2013, 05:25:18 PM
From what I've seen on Alter Bridge forums it's one of the ones that's a common least favourite, along with Farther Than The Sun and Cry A River (and Addicted To Pain, but it's always hard to tell how a single is rated among the fandom because they tend to underrate it shortly after an album is released). But that basically seems like the simple structure, heavy riff - anthemic chorus based songs, so it makes sense they would end up the least favourite of people who aren't interested in those. I like it, it is an awesome riff that was enough to stand out to me on very listen. Good bridge and chorus too, was almost going to put it higher but it can't crack the top half and I still tend to want to listen to All Ends Well more (although I think it's the type of song that could get old).

I'm more curious as to why you put Waters Rising last - I've seen it being people's least favourite and among people's favourite, but I kind of thought it seemed that people that didn't like Tremonti singing it didn't like it, but you said you like Tremonti's singing a lot.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: wolfking on October 11, 2013, 05:27:48 PM
To be honest, I prefer Tremonti's voice to Kennedy's.  :lol  Tremonti's solo album is my fav work from him, but in time, Fortress may beat it.

It just doesn't do anything for me, and it seems far more generic than songs like Peace is Broken or Farther Than the Sun.  It's a fine song, just my least fav, doesn't get me excited.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Accelerando on October 13, 2013, 05:52:46 PM
I don' think Peace Is Broken is a bad song, it's just not my favorite on the album. I think it's because of the chorus.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: wolfking on October 14, 2013, 03:39:16 AM
I find the chorus melody and the harmonies between Myles and Mark simply incredible.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: wasteland on October 14, 2013, 04:20:20 AM
Right now it's:

1. Calm The Fire

the rest I still have to figure out. After all this is really my first istance of heavy listening to Alter Bridge (so, I guess, Hello AB thread  :angel:), but in my ignorance I'm rather convinced that Calm The Fire is almost illegally strong  :omg:
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: ariich on October 14, 2013, 01:59:15 PM
Calm the Fire is my favourite on the album, and might be my favourite AB song! Although I'm not sure it quite topples Blackbird.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: OsMosis2259 on October 14, 2013, 02:02:28 PM
Fortress is probably their best album but it's going to be really tough to top Blackbird the song.
I think the band themselves admitted that as well  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Accelerando on October 14, 2013, 02:41:30 PM
Right now it's:

1. Calm The Fire

the rest I still have to figure out. After all this is really my first istance of heavy listening to Alter Bridge (so, I guess, Hello AB thread  :angel:), but in my ignorance I'm rather convinced that Calm The Fire is almost illegally strong  :omg:

Welcome to the thread! And yes, Calm The Fire is incredible. Definitely my favorite from this album, with Cry of Achilles at a strong second.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: lordxizor on October 14, 2013, 06:38:58 PM
Fortress will definitely be giving Blackbird a run for my favorite Alter Bridge album. My biggest complaint is Myle's overdubbed background vocals. mark has a great voice. They should have used him more for harmonies.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: wolfking on October 14, 2013, 06:45:03 PM
Just listened to the bonus track.  Glad they kept it off the album.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Nel on October 14, 2013, 10:38:45 PM
Pretty good record that is going to need some more listens. I definitely can't say it's better than the Blackbird album, but it's about at the level of... well, hell, I listen to Blackbird so much that all three of the other albums are going to need some more listens.  :lol

I will say that the title track is fucking awesome, though.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Mister Gold on October 15, 2013, 03:57:37 AM
Fortress is probably their best album but it's going to be really tough to top Blackbird the song.
I think the band themselves admitted that as well  :lol


They already topped it with Cry of Achilles, in my opinion. However I get the impression that they'll never admit it if they ever manage to top that song, because of how much that song means to them on an emotional level. Which is totally understandable.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: OsMosis2259 on October 15, 2013, 07:54:02 AM
Just listened to the bonus track.  Glad they kept it off the album.

This. Not a bad track but it just wouldn't fit anywhere on the album.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: sylvan on October 15, 2013, 08:49:18 AM
Just listened to the bonus track.  Glad they kept it off the album.

This. Not a bad track but it just wouldn't fit anywhere on the album.

Am I the only one diggin' this track?  It has a great energy.  It might not "fit", but wasn't it an idea that was around from Blackbird that got set aside?  You can hear the bridging of the gap from the traditional AB style to where they seem to be going.  I just like it I guess.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: ZKX-2099 on October 15, 2013, 09:35:17 AM
Fortress is probably their best album but it's going to be really tough to top Blackbird the song.


Yeah what he said.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Accelerando on October 16, 2013, 11:07:29 PM
Besides the impressive major scales, Ouright isn't even my favorite b-side AB has done.

New Way To Live by far to me is their best b-side. It's in my top ten AB songs. That solo is gorgeous.  And who can forget the how much Ahavo Rabo Taco Salad kicks ass?!?

I also like simplicity of Home, and the song that was featured on the Fantastic Four soundtrack, Save Me.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: sylvan on October 17, 2013, 06:46:45 AM
Besides the impressive major scales, Ouright isn't even my favorite b-side AB has done.

New Way To Live by far to me is their best b-side. It's in my top ten AB songs. That solo is gorgeous.  And who can forget the how much Ahavo Rabo Taco Salad kicks ass?!?

I also like simplicity of Home, and the song that was featured on the Fantastic Four soundtrack, Save Me.

I merely find it enjoyable.  But don't mistake that for meaning I think it's better than their other b-sides.  Well... better than Save Me imo.  And I'm not sure I would call Taco Salad a b-side, and while it does kick ass, it also imo is not their best non-album track.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: OsMosis2259 on October 17, 2013, 07:44:52 AM
The Damage Done and New Way to Live are awesome b-sides.

I can't believe they were b-sides to be honest. I think they are better than half the tracks on Blackbird!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Accelerando on October 17, 2013, 03:12:25 PM
All Ends Well has been stuck in my head all day.  The composition right before the chorus...the "Somewhere down the road your stars will show..." has to be one of the best pace changers in the entire AB catalog. Just the strumming of the guitar for some reason sounds un-intrusive. Part of ABs plan of not sticking to formula clearly shows in both of the albums ballads!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Accelerando on October 23, 2013, 01:53:16 PM
Here's a video of them playing Waters Rising for their first time!

http://youtu.be/z41249mJI9A


Also, Cry of Achilles at Wembley
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIn7NZgQRj0
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: mikeyd23 on October 23, 2013, 03:01:30 PM
I've been following the start of their UK tour to support the album... And I have to say I'm very dissapointed at the lack of new Fortress material in the sets. Honestly, they did pre tour rehearsals, so they should be prepared to play more than 4 songs from the new record every night.

Plus there are just so many songs on Fortress that would work well live... I really hope they are just starting off conservative and will begin to incorporate more and more new material. The set is so BB heavy... I mean it's a great album but, this is a tour to support Fortress, which is arguably just as great as BB, right?
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: ariich on October 23, 2013, 03:39:01 PM
Yeah, as much as I enjoyed the Wembley gig, the set was VERY Blackbird heavy. 8 songs from that, 3 from ABIII, 3 from ODR and 4 from Fortress.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Mister Gold on October 23, 2013, 06:32:45 PM
I've been following the start of their UK tour to support the album... And I have to say I'm very dissapointed at the lack of new Fortress material in the sets. Honestly, they did pre tour rehearsals, so they should be prepared to play more than 4 songs from the new record every night.

Plus there are just so many songs on Fortress that would work well live... I really hope they are just starting off conservative and will begin to incorporate more and more new material. The set is so BB heavy... I mean it's a great album but, this is a tour to support Fortress, which is arguably just as great as BB, right?
Yeah, as much as I enjoyed the Wembley gig, the set was VERY Blackbird heavy. 8 songs from that, 3 from ABIII, 3 from ODR and 4 from Fortress.

They actually played 3 songs off of Fortress the other night, from what I've heard. And the annoying thing is that there's videos of the band playing both Calm the Fire and Lover live during their soundchecks lately. I have no idea why the band is being so conservative on this. I really hope they increase the number of Fortress songs they play live by the time they get back to the States.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: ariich on October 24, 2013, 12:45:06 AM
One of the problem is the sense of entitlement from the fanbase. In Glasgow they played an extra song from Fortress (ok so it was Cry A River which is probably the least good song on the album) in place of Metalingus, and people were whining about it online, so they brought Metalingus back. Myles actually told the crowd that at the Wembley show.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Accelerando on October 24, 2013, 01:41:46 AM
I remember during the beginning of the ABIII, they did something similiar to what they are doing now. Maybe 3-4 ABIII songs, but a slew of BB and ODR songs. I think it was the middle of that tour they finally played Words Darker Than Their Wings. It's strange that they are doing this. You'd they would be excited to play the new stuff. Maybe they are to appease the fans of the older albums? I guess you can't make everyone happy. I just can't fucking wait to see footage of the duel guitar solos from the song Fortress
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: sylvan on October 24, 2013, 06:33:51 AM
I remember during the beginning of the ABIII, they did something similiar to what they are doing now. Maybe 3-4 ABIII songs, but a slew of BB and ODR songs. I think it was the middle of that tour they finally played Words Darker Than Their Wings. It's strange that they are doing this. You'd they would be excited to play the new stuff. Maybe they are to appease the fans of the older albums? I guess you can't make everyone happy. I just can't fucking wait to see footage of the duel guitar solos from the song Fortress

You should see some of the babies on the abnation forum.  Tears are running down their faces as they cry about not hearing the entire Fortress album at the new shows.  Really?  This is not "An evening with..." show.  It's a modern rock band with 4 albums and a fan base that stretches 9 years.  I read someone say, "What about all the new fans that like fortress because it's different, but don't really like the older material?  They must have been really disappointed."  I can't say I would be disappointed if they played only the entire new album, but there are a lot of other songs I'd like to hear as well.  I guess that's the difference between a long-time, life-time AB fan and these "noob" fans that only like the new material because it's heavier, or whatever.  I guess I just get tired of people complaining about not getting exactly what they want, as if everyone can be pleased.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: mikeyd23 on October 24, 2013, 07:15:32 AM
Tears are running down their faces as they cry about not hearing the entire Fortress album at the new shows.  Really?  This is not "An evening with..." show.  It's a modern rock band with 4 albums and a fan base that stretches 9 years.

I totally agree that it is unrealistic to expect AB to play the new album in it's entirety, but I think since the tour is clearly in support of the new album, it should be represented more.

I guess that's the difference between a long-time, life-time AB fan and these "noob" fans that only like the new material because it's heavier, or whatever.

I have been a fan since ODR, and I love all of the band's material. But I've seen the band play live several times, so I'd like to see some more new material when I pay money to go to a show.

I think there are certainly songs from all three of their previous albums that they should play, IMO those would include:

ODR:
Open Your Eyes
Metalingus
Broken Wings

BB:
Come to Life
Brand New Start
Rise Today
Blackbird
White Knuckles

ABIII:
Slip to the Void
Isolation
Ghosts Of Days Gone By
All Hope is Gone

Thats 12 songs from previous albums.  They have been playing 18 songs on most nights so far on this tour.  That leaves room for 6 songs from Fortress. Playing 6 songs off the new record rather than 3 or 4 would be fantastic.  It allows them to somewhat evenly represent their back catalog, BUT play more songs from the new album, which they are promoting, than from any other one previous album.

Thats what makes sense to me, either way I'm eagerly awaiting the US tour dates to be announced as I'm sure I'll go see them as long as they are coming remotely close to me, regardless of the particulars of the set.


Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Mister Gold on October 24, 2013, 06:28:08 PM
You should see some of the babies on the abnation forum.  Tears are running down their faces as they cry about not hearing the entire Fortress album at the new shows.  Really?This is not "An evening with..." show.  It's a modern rock band with 4 albums and a fan base that stretches 9 years.  I read someone say, "What about all the new fans that like fortress because it's different, but don't really like the older material?  They must have been really disappointed."  I can't say I would be disappointed if they played only the entire new album, but there are a lot of other songs I'd like to hear as well.  I guess that's the difference between a long-time, life-time AB fan and these "noob" fans that only like the new material because it's heavier, or whatever.  I guess I just get tired of people complaining about not getting exactly what they want, as if everyone can be pleased.

Uh dude, as someone who posts over at abnation, I think you're overexaggerating a bit.

I openly admit that I'm one of the people there that have expressed my issue with the recent setlists, but I never would expect or want the band to play the entire Fortress album at their shows. I just think it's absolutely ridiculous that the band is playing a setlist that is

a) insanely heavy on Blackbird songs in particular, which has been what the band has been playing live for the past several tours,
b) only contains 3-5 songs off of their new album that they're supporting right now
c) doesn't really represent One Day Remains or AB III well either

I'd be totally fine if the band played 6-7 Fortress songs, 5-6 Blackbird songs, 4-5 ABIII songs and 4-5 ODR songs. And as far as I can tell from the other people at abnations that have also expressed their dissatisfaction with the setlists, they seem to have the same mindset.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Anguyen92 on October 25, 2013, 12:04:46 AM
Calm the Fire is played for the 1st time live in their Paris show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cWxcEL5dbc

Great stuff, despite some awkward moments that comes naturally into playing a new song in front of a live audience for the 1st time, added to the fact that this song is really tough to sing.  Also, the crowd responded really well to it.  Overall, good signs, all around.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: RuRoRul on October 25, 2013, 01:45:01 AM
One of the problem is the sense of entitlement from the fanbase. In Glasgow they played an extra song from Fortress (ok so it was Cry A River which is probably the least good song on the album) in place of Metalingus, and people were whining about it online, so they brought Metalingus back. Myles actually told the crowd that at the Wembley show.
This never happened - they played Melalingus at Glasgow and didn't play Cry A River.

Also I reckon these types of setlists are more aimed at "noob" fans sylvan, since long time fans have likely seen 80% of the songs played multiple times and wouldn't mind something different, where as people at their first or second gig will be more keen to see the classics.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: ariich on October 25, 2013, 04:03:45 AM
One of the problem is the sense of entitlement from the fanbase. In Glasgow they played an extra song from Fortress (ok so it was Cry A River which is probably the least good song on the album) in place of Metalingus, and people were whining about it online, so they brought Metalingus back. Myles actually told the crowd that at the Wembley show.
This never happened - they played Melalingus at Glasgow and didn't play Cry A River.
Ok must have got the place wrong, but it was definitely one of the earlier shows on the UK part of the tour.

EDIT: Turns out I meant Nottingham, Glasgow was later in the tour, after Wembley.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: mikeyd23 on October 25, 2013, 07:38:53 AM
Calm the Fire is played for the 1st time live in their Paris show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cWxcEL5dbc

Great stuff, despite some awkward moments that comes naturally into playing a new song in front of a live audience for the 1st time, added to the fact that this song is really tough to sing.  Also, the crowd responded really well to it.  Overall, good signs, all around.

See thats what I'm talking about, I really liked that! I would much rather them play more new songs off this album and have those songs be a little tricky at first than to just fill the set with old songs they are comfortable with.  Was that a perfect performance? Heck no.  But was it really good? Absolutely!!

Like you said, that was the first live performance in front of an audience, so its bound to have little awkward or imperfect moments here and there, but after they play it a few more times, I think that will end up being one of my favorite songs in their live show, its such a great tune on the record, and I thought it translated well into a live environment there, especially considering it was the live debut of the song.

I haven't checked out the full set list from the Paris show yet, but I'm hoping now that Shinedown is done with their leg of the tour, AB will extend their set to be a couple songs longer, and I'm hoping those couple songs are Fortress material!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: PixelDream on October 25, 2013, 07:56:58 AM
Grr.. they better play Fortress when I'm seeing them november 3th! No, I would definitely enjoy the show, but that song would really be the icing on the cake.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: OsMosis2259 on October 25, 2013, 07:57:57 AM
Would much prefer a track from Fortress instead of Before Tomorrow Comes...

Otherwise not a bad set!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: mikeyd23 on October 25, 2013, 07:59:16 AM
I haven't checked out the full set list from the Paris show yet, but I'm hoping now that Shinedown is done with their leg of the tour, AB will extend their set to be a couple songs longer, and I'm hoping those couple songs are Fortress material!

Haha! Never mind about this comment! Just looked at the full set and they took out Farther Than The Sun to play Calm the Fire.... So still only 4 Fortress songs... And 8 BB songs.... Wow.... I just don't get it, they really need to do proper tour rehearsals in order to practice the newer songs and figure how to build a set list with the newer songs being incorporated.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: wolfking on October 25, 2013, 03:45:10 PM
Would much prefer a track from Fortress instead of Before Tomorrow Comes...

Otherwise not a bad set!

I don't understand personally why the band keep playing this song.  It's probably one of my least fav AB tracks.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Mister Gold on October 25, 2013, 06:17:41 PM
Would much prefer a track from Fortress instead of Before Tomorrow Comes...

Otherwise not a bad set!

I don't understand personally why the band keep playing this song.  It's probably one of my least fav AB tracks.

Yeah, I'm tempted to call it the "Fear of the Dark" of Alter Bridge's setlist.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: RuRoRul on October 25, 2013, 08:41:00 PM
Would much prefer a track from Fortress instead of Before Tomorrow Comes...

Otherwise not a bad set!

I don't understand personally why the band keep playing this song.  It's probably one of my least fav AB tracks.
Before Tomorrow Comes is literally my least favourite AB album track (least favourite other than Save Me, I think), so other than hoping to see new stuff, not seeing Before Tomorrow Comes for a 5th time was my other most wanted aspect of the setlist...
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Anguyen92 on October 25, 2013, 10:09:10 PM
Ok, at least, ever since they got out of the UK arena shows, they have started slowly debuting new songs.  Here's Bleed it Dry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qea5hPGwzzM

This is a good progress, now they need to do the hardest (to them) part of this process. Slowly phasing out two or three Blackbird songs. 

I don't why, but I feel that they are going to debut Fortress (song) at the Amsterdam show since that is going to be the 3rd time in five years that they have played in the same venue.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: wolfking on October 28, 2013, 04:13:19 AM
I'm glad I'm not the only one that feels that way about BTC.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: PixelDream on October 28, 2013, 06:45:52 AM
So, are the band still playing the songs way too fast? Songs like Find The Real and Come to Life really lose the groovy quality the studio versions have. Such a shame, and so unnecessary!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Mister Gold on October 28, 2013, 07:31:26 AM
So, are the band still playing the songs way too fast? Songs like Find The Real and Come to Life really lose the groovy quality the studio versions have. Such a shame, and so unnecessary!


No, they're playing the songs at the right speed now. I think that coupled with Myles relocating to a spot onstage where he can hear everything better have a lot to do with the band's improved performances this tour, aside from the somewhat disappointing setlists (which are slowly being improved on).
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: mikeyd23 on October 28, 2013, 07:40:56 AM
So, are the band still playing the songs way too fast? Songs like Find The Real and Come to Life really lose the groovy quality the studio versions have. Such a shame, and so unnecessary!


No, they're playing the songs at the right speed now. I think that coupled with Myles relocating to a spot onstage where he can hear everything better have a lot to do with the band's improved performances this tour, aside from the somewhat disappointing setlists (which are slowly being improved on).

Agreed.  Also Flip is using a click track to keep himself in time for some of the songs.  I know he is using it for most of, if not all the new songs they are playing and some of the older ones as well.  To the best of my knowledge, this is the first tour AB has ever used a click and it has helped their live performance tons!

I'm glad I'm not the only one that feels that way about BTC.

It's interesting that several people on this board don't like that song very much, I always thought most people loved it.  Personally, I think its okay, not bad, but certainly not one of their better ones.  I would love for them to remove it from the set to be replaced by a Fortress song.

Ok, at least, ever since they got out of the UK arena shows, they have started slowly debuting new songs.  Here's Bleed it Dry.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qea5hPGwzzM
This is a good progress, now they need to do the hardest (to them) part of this process. Slowly phasing out two or three Blackbird songs. 

Bleed It Dry sounds great! One of my favorites off the record and it comes across really well live.  The more they play this tune, the better it will sound.  I could see this being a live staple in their set that sticks around for years (at least I hope)... That solo by Mark might be his best ever.... Simply fantastic!!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: PixelDream on October 28, 2013, 07:49:57 AM
Great to hear that the band is tighter!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Basekick on October 28, 2013, 11:58:05 AM
Ok, at least, ever since they got out of the UK arena shows, they have started slowly debuting new songs.  Here's Bleed it Dry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qea5hPGwzzM

This is a good progress, now they need to do the hardest (to them) part of this process. Slowly phasing out two or three Blackbird songs. 

I don't why, but I feel that they are going to debut Fortress (song) at the Amsterdam show since that is going to be the 3rd time in five years that they have played in the same venue.

Great video, thanks for linking it!  It's really interesting to see them play that one live. 

It was my understanding that the bridge solos were split between Myles and Tremonti, but in order to keep the same feel of the song for the live performance, they had Tremonti do both solos as Myles did the fingerpicking underneath.  The feel of the first solo is completely different then the studio track simply because it's not Tremonti's style at all.  Might need a bigger OD pedal shift entering the second solo, but good on him for learning it and nailing it! 
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: mikeyd23 on October 28, 2013, 12:20:25 PM
It was my understanding that the bridge solos were split between Myles and Tremonti, but in order to keep the same feel of the song for the live performance, they had Tremonti do both solos as Myles did the fingerpicking underneath.  The feel of the first solo is completely different then the studio track simply because it's not Tremonti's style at all.  Might need a bigger OD pedal shift entering the second solo, but good on him for learning it and nailing it!

I might be wrong, but I'm pretty darn sure that the Bleed It Dry solo is 100% Mark in the studio, which is why it is 100% Mark live.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Basekick on October 28, 2013, 12:32:20 PM
It was my understanding that the bridge solos were split between Myles and Tremonti, but in order to keep the same feel of the song for the live performance, they had Tremonti do both solos as Myles did the fingerpicking underneath.  The feel of the first solo is completely different then the studio track simply because it's not Tremonti's style at all.  Might need a bigger OD pedal shift entering the second solo, but good on him for learning it and nailing it!

I might be wrong, but I'm pretty darn sure that the Bleed It Dry solo is 100% Mark in the studio, which is why it is 100% Mark live.

Then mark me impressed!  (sorry for the pun...)
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: mikeyd23 on October 28, 2013, 12:37:58 PM
Then mark me impressed!  (sorry for the pun...)

Haha! Nice one!  :rollin
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: ariich on October 28, 2013, 01:35:09 PM
So, are the band still playing the songs way too fast? Songs like Find The Real and Come to Life really lose the groovy quality the studio versions have. Such a shame, and so unnecessary!


No, they're playing the songs at the right speed now. I think that coupled with Myles relocating to a spot onstage where he can hear everything better have a lot to do with the band's improved performances this tour, aside from the somewhat disappointing setlists (which are slowly being improved on).
I dunno, at Wembley some of the songs were still pretty fast. Weirdly, it's the songs that are already fast that they play at breakneck speed which makes them slightly uncomfortable at times. The slower and more mid-tempo songs they absolutely nail though!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: wolfking on October 29, 2013, 04:18:26 AM
Ok, at least, ever since they got out of the UK arena shows, they have started slowly debuting new songs.  Here's Bleed it Dry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qea5hPGwzzM

This is a good progress, now they need to do the hardest (to them) part of this process. Slowly phasing out two or three Blackbird songs. 

I don't why, but I feel that they are going to debut Fortress (song) at the Amsterdam show since that is going to be the 3rd time in five years that they have played in the same venue.

Great video, thanks for linking it!  It's really interesting to see them play that one live. 

It was my understanding that the bridge solos were split between Myles and Tremonti, but in order to keep the same feel of the song for the live performance, they had Tremonti do both solos as Myles did the fingerpicking underneath.  The feel of the first solo is completely different then the studio track simply because it's not Tremonti's style at all.  Might need a bigger OD pedal shift entering the second solo, but good on him for learning it and nailing it!

No chance, all Tremonti.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: mikeyd23 on October 29, 2013, 08:31:54 AM
No chance, all Tremonti.

Yep! In my opinion, certainly one of his best solos ever, if not the best!  :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Basekick on October 29, 2013, 11:26:43 AM
No chance, all Tremonti.

Yep! In my opinion, certainly one of his best solos ever, if not the best!  :metal

Definitely agree!  Now that I know it's Mark all the way through, I would certainly rank it up in his top 5.  Amazing solo!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: OsMosis2259 on October 29, 2013, 01:48:01 PM
Ok, at least, ever since they got out of the UK arena shows, they have started slowly debuting new songs.  Here's Bleed it Dry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qea5hPGwzzM

This is a good progress, now they need to do the hardest (to them) part of this process. Slowly phasing out two or three Blackbird songs. 

I don't why, but I feel that they are going to debut Fortress (song) at the Amsterdam show since that is going to be the 3rd time in five years that they have played in the same venue.

Great video, thanks for linking it!  It's really interesting to see them play that one live. 

It was my understanding that the bridge solos were split between Myles and Tremonti, but in order to keep the same feel of the song for the live performance, they had Tremonti do both solos as Myles did the fingerpicking underneath.  The feel of the first solo is completely different then the studio track simply because it's not Tremonti's style at all.  Might need a bigger OD pedal shift entering the second solo, but good on him for learning it and nailing it!

No chance, all Tremonti.

Def all Tremonti

5:05
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGUq4mh3G0s
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Anguyen92 on October 29, 2013, 11:42:45 PM
All right, Lover is played live for the 1st time during the Stockholm show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPFeMa7HLdc

So that's 9/12 of the Fortress songs played live, at least once.  That's a track record better than ABIII where they played only 10/14 songs live, at least once, during their tours in 2010-early 2012.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: wolfking on October 30, 2013, 04:41:43 AM
So what 3 songs haven't been played?

Also, what solos do you all reckon Myles does play?  From what I can pick up, I'm thinking it's only the main solo in COA, and the trade off solos in the title track.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: OsMosis2259 on October 30, 2013, 07:36:45 AM
I think The Peace is Broken, All Ends Well and Fortress
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: mikeyd23 on October 30, 2013, 08:00:49 AM
All right, Lover is played live for the 1st time during the Stockholm show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPFeMa7HLdc

So that's 9/12 of the Fortress songs played live, at least once.  That's a track record better than ABIII where they played only 10/14 songs live, at least once, during their tours in 2010-early 2012.

Whoa! Really cool performance! Myles seems totally into this song, awesome vocal performance by him.  He is sounding so, so strong on this tour.  I'm thinking the click track and new stage position are really helping him hear himself better, great results!  :metal

I think The Peace is Broken, All Ends Well and Fortress

I believe you are correct, those three are the only ones they haven't played off Fortress yet.  Rumor is that they played both All Ends Well and the song Fortress in sound check yesterday, before they let in the VIPs, so no video of those sound check performances yet, to the best of my knowledge.  But, thats a good sign those songs are coming soon!

I can't complain that they haven't played a lot of different songs off the new album, I just wish they would play more of them together all in one set still!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Basekick on October 30, 2013, 09:49:56 AM

Also, what solos do you all reckon Myles does play?  From what I can pick up, I'm thinking it's only the main solo in COA, and the trade off solos in the title track.

I think he plays on CoA, the second half of the Farther Than The Sun Solo (The super high pitched bends), half of Fortress.  I thought part of Bleed It Dry, but was rightfully put in my place  :P

Maybe the beginning Lover solo too.  Just a blind guess there given the feel and tone of it.  Could definitely be Mark though.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Mister Gold on October 30, 2013, 10:03:50 AM
Out of curiosity, where do you guys all see the band going musically from here on the next album? I have a few thoughts myself, based on a few songs off of Fortress.


Thoughts?
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Anguyen92 on October 30, 2013, 10:32:23 AM
^^ I agree on the above and that's probably those are the directions that they could expand on after Fortress.

Still, for me, I would like to see a more scaled-back acoustic style album, even if it could turn out to be an EP.  Myles' voice is the best in that format, but the styles, you've listed above, are fine by me.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: mikeyd23 on October 30, 2013, 10:44:56 AM
I think he plays on CoA, the second half of the Farther Than The Sun Solo (The super high pitched bends), half of Fortress.  I thought part of Bleed It Dry, but was rightfully put in my place  :P

Maybe the beginning Lover solo too.  Just a blind guess there given the feel and tone of it.  Could definitely be Mark though.

The bluesy lick at the beginning of Lover is actually Mark, but I totally thought when I first heard it, it was Myles.

Out of curiosity, where do you guys all see the band going musically from here on the next album? I have a few thoughts myself, based on a few songs off of Fortress......
.....Thoughts?

I like some of your ideas.  I definitely think they will continue to touch on more progressive elements in their music.  I also think there will be more vocals from Mark as the band, and the fans, have really reacted well to Water Rising.  On the flip side, I agree that we will see more guitar leads and parts from Myles too. Thats the natural thing that will balance out more Mark vocals.

All in all, I just hope that they keep this momentum up from a great album in Fortress.  My biggest fear is that they will rush this tour and go back to side projects, etc...

Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: PixelDream on October 30, 2013, 11:42:54 AM
So after this awesomeness they're probably back to Slash and Creed again. It's a shame really, Full Circle (autotuned and chopped to crap) and the live shows have already proven that Scott Stapp just isn't the good vocalist he once was.

I think Myles Kennedy is clearly the better musician and singer, but when I listen to My Own Prison or even Human Clay.. that dude did have a very cool, powerful voice. Breaks my heart, really.

EDIT: Just saw some official footage from 2009 in which he was laugably bad. After that I checked out some 2012 videos, he seems to be doing much better.

Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: OsMosis2259 on October 30, 2013, 02:04:26 PM
I think after this tour Mark will go back to recording with his solo band for Tremonti which I'm really excited for! I'm always a fan of his more aggressive riff style writing! We could possibly see a Tremonti release late 2014.

I loved the direction for Fortress and I think it's their most progressive/dynamic album to date.

I really hope they expand on it next release!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Accelerando on October 31, 2013, 05:55:22 PM

I think Myles Kennedy is clearly the better musician and singer, but when I listen to My Own Prison or even Human Clay.. that dude did have a very cool, powerful voice. Breaks my heart, really.


There's no question Scott Stapp was a terrific singer in the beginning of his musical career, even with all the flack he (or rather Creed itself)  has gotten. Those two albums you mention are GREAT albums, and are the stand outs of the post-grunge era. Stapp had a fantastic crooning voice back then. Faceless Man, Pity For A Dime, Torn, Beautiful, and Wash Away Those Years have some of the best vocals he's performed.

But this is what happens when drugs, alcohol and the lack of discipline in taking care of your voice will do. There was a video posted of Creed performing Higher a few years ago on Leno where flares of the old Stapp were shown.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlnzwCdrQ5Y
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: PixelDream on October 31, 2013, 06:07:38 PM

I think Myles Kennedy is clearly the better musician and singer, but when I listen to My Own Prison or even Human Clay.. that dude did have a very cool, powerful voice. Breaks my heart, really.


There's no question Scott Stapp was a terrific singer in the beginning of his musical career, even with all the flack he (or rather Creed itself)  has gotten. Those two albums you mention are GREAT albums, and are the stand outs of the post-grunge era. Stapp had a fantastic crooning voice back then. Faceless Man, Pity For A Dime, Torn, Beautiful, and Wash Away Those Years have some of the best vocals he's performed.


Right on, I still play those records from time to time. I discovered them through Human Clay and was blown away by it. Then I checked out the debut, which I, after years and years think of as the better record. That record just has an authentic quality to it that no other Creed OR Alter Bridge album can touch IMO. That has to do with the songwriting, and especially the production. I enjoy that type of rawness.

I guess my expectations for Weathered were a bit too high. There's interesting stuff there all over the place, but they're surpressed by the boring and formulaic stuff. You can kind of hear their inspiration run dry on the record. 'Bullets' was a very cool heavy track though (the seeds of 'Ties That Bind' / the general heavy/fast approach of AB?).

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6b/Weathered_Cover.jpg)

This album cover  :rollin
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: mikeyd23 on November 01, 2013, 07:24:05 AM
I believe Stapp just released a solo album and I'm pretty sure Mark has said in interviews that he plans to do another solo record when AB finishes this tour supporting Fortress.  So its kinda seeming like a Creed album and/or tour is unlikely in the near future. 

For me personally, I'm totally cool with that.  I agree with what a couple of you have said, that on their first couple records there was a certain magic and Stapp's vocals were cool.  But, in recent Creed reunion attempts I have been really unimpressed with the shape his voice is in, his pitch control live is awful.  I was actually at the first Creed "reunion" show in Pittsburgh in 2009, it was the first show they had played together since 2002 and Stapp sounded really rough, and didn't really improve a ton throughout that tour if I remember right.  Full Circle had a couple cool tracks on it, but I would MUCH rather have another Mark solo record before another Creed record.

In a perfect world for me though, I would honestly like the AB guys to focus solely on AB.  I feel like AB touring in the BlackBird era was, overall, their peak live performances and it was before any Creed reunions, Slash projects, solo albums, etc... It was just AB, thats all these guys had and there was some sort of intangible element in their performances back then.  I don't know if that was the reason for it or not, but there was something. 

That being said, I am super encouraged by the videos I have been seeing of AB on this new Fortress tour, I think this is the best they have sounded since the BlackBird tour era I just mentioned above.  They seem to have a renewed energy, if they keep this up the sky is the limit.

Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: PixelDream on November 03, 2013, 08:15:53 AM
YES! Just got tickets 2nd hand (cheaper) for the AB show tonight in Amsterdam! My brother and I are going with both our girlfriends AND our mama! My mother's favorite AB tunes are Brand New Start and Blackbird.. I'm thinking she'll be lucky tonight. As for myself, I'm dying to hear 'Fortress' live.

Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: OsMosis2259 on November 03, 2013, 10:20:37 AM
YES! Just got tickets 2nd hand (cheaper) for the AB show tonight in Amsterdam! My brother and I are going with both our girlfriends AND our mama! My mother's favorite AB tunes are Brand New Start and Blackbird.. I'm thinking she'll be lucky tonight. As for myself, I'm dying to hear 'Fortress' live.

Can't wait to hear your experience. I really hope they come do a US tour afterwards. :)
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Anguyen92 on November 03, 2013, 10:24:03 AM
Well, they've had an extended 4-day break in between shows and this is Amsterdam, after all.  Hopefully, they can debut Fortress and/or All Ends Well.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Accelerando on November 03, 2013, 04:08:43 PM
I'm sure all of us are awaiting that kickass bridge on Fortress to be played live. And i'll wonder if they'll extend the play with some improv with those duel solos. People would lose their freakin minds!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: PixelDream on November 03, 2013, 06:22:07 PM
No Fortress :(.

But what we did get was a revamped vision of what Alter Bridge can be. Gone are the days of awkward chorus FX on the vocals and songs being played too fast for their own good. A world of difference! They're playing with more respect to the original songs. With a steadier groove and the right tempo for each song, you get dragged in more, and Myles has the time for his vocals to give his full attention to every note. The results are scaringly good, at times even surpassing studio work. He did some ridiculously bluesy variations in the verses of Blackbird.


Great, great set. Amazing performance, the mix was really good, and I really thought the band were having a blast. There was always a gap in between songs but that's for a good purpose: the click track. Flip is really groovin' naturally with it.

Halestorm were great! Didn't know them so they were a nice surprise. That singer lady is amazing! She also came on stage with Myles for a beautiful version of Watch Over You.

Highlights:

Halestorm putting on a very energetic show
Cry of Achilles bridge (the huge break with the bass riff) and Myles' guitar solo. The sheer volume was breathtaking.
Brand New Start
BLACKBIRD - Don't ever drop that from the set please!
Calm The Fire vocal intro, huge!
Waters Rising with Myles announcing Mark on lead vox - that dude can sing!
Farther than the sun intro riff!
Slip to the Void
Broken Wings
Ghosts of Days Gone By - I don't wanna die!!
Watch Over You
Ties That Bind - doesn't get old
A bass pick from Brian Marshall that landed in my eye, and me finding it on the ground! Way cool!

Lowlights:

No Fortress

No optimal sound during the opener Addicted to Pain - but I'm thinking the band is doing that on purpose. Better have that one ruined by the sound than a song like Cry of Achilles.

People singing annoyingly loud and out of tune

CELLPHONES - I could rant a page full on this

Being the driver for the night

Okay.. Before Tomorrow Comes. I understand why they play it. It got a lot of love from the audience. Luckily they launched into Farther than the Sun straight after. Makes for a great contrast. Dragging Generic AB Song vs Extremy Badass RIFF Turned Up To Eleven and Tuned The F**k Down!

Verdict of the night:

Alter Bridge are (perhaps contrary to the ABIII tour) on top of their game and are perhaps the best ROCK band in the world today.  :metal






Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: wolfking on November 03, 2013, 06:43:10 PM
I find it a bit odd that they don't play the title track from the new album.  It's probably the best on the album and would absolutely slay live.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: PixelDream on November 03, 2013, 06:52:25 PM
I find it a bit odd that they don't play the title track from the new album.  It's probably the best on the album and would absolutely slay live.

That's exactly what my brother said after the gig. He wasn't aware that they still haven't played it and he was actually waiting for it throughout the set. We listened to 'Lover', 'All Ends Well' and the title track when we got home.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: mikeyd23 on November 04, 2013, 07:17:59 AM

......Alter Bridge are (perhaps contrary to the ABIII tour) on top of their game and are perhaps the best ROCK band in the world today.  :metal


Great review! Thanks for posting it, sounds like an amazing time  :metal

Can't wait for US tour dates!!!  From what I've seen from this tour, I think you are right, AB is at the top of their game and should certainly be considered one of the best, if not the best hard rock band out there right now!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: PixelDream on November 04, 2013, 08:25:22 AM

......Alter Bridge are (perhaps contrary to the ABIII tour) on top of their game and are perhaps the best ROCK band in the world today.  :metal


Great review! Thanks for posting it, sounds like an amazing time  :metal

Can't wait for US tour dates!!!  From what I've seen from this tour, I think you are right, AB is at the top of their game and should certainly be considered one of the best, if not the best hard rock band out there right now!

Thanks no prob thanks for reading! Another surprise was that upon leaving the gig, my mother - first AB concert for her -  told me it was pretty much the best (rock) concert she had ever been to. I have to give Porcupine Tree, Steven Wilson or Radiohead that honor as far as I'm concerned, but I guess she's not too far off!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: OsMosis2259 on November 04, 2013, 10:56:45 AM
No Fortress :(.

But what we did get was a revamped vision of what Alter Bridge can be. Gone are the days of awkward chorus FX on the vocals and songs being played too fast for their own good. A world of difference! They're playing with more respect to the original songs. With a steadier groove and the right tempo for each song, you get dragged in more, and Myles has the time for his vocals to give his full attention to every note. The results are scaringly good, at times even surpassing studio work. He did some ridiculously bluesy variations in the verses of Blackbird.


Great, great set. Amazing performance, the mix was really good, and I really thought the band were having a blast. There was always a gap in between songs but that's for a good purpose: the click track. Flip is really groovin' naturally with it.

Halestorm were great! Didn't know them so they were a nice surprise. That singer lady is amazing! She also came on stage with Myles for a beautiful version of Watch Over You.

Highlights:

Halestorm putting on a very energetic show
Cry of Achilles bridge (the huge break with the bass riff) and Myles' guitar solo. The sheer volume was breathtaking.
Brand New Start
BLACKBIRD - Don't ever drop that from the set please!
Calm The Fire vocal intro, huge!
Waters Rising with Myles announcing Mark on lead vox - that dude can sing!
Farther than the sun intro riff!
Slip to the Void
Broken Wings
Ghosts of Days Gone By - I don't wanna die!!
Watch Over You
Ties That Bind - doesn't get old
A bass pick from Brian Marshall that landed in my eye, and me finding it on the ground! Way cool!

Lowlights:

No Fortress

No optimal sound during the opener Addicted to Pain - but I'm thinking the band is doing that on purpose. Better have that one ruined by the sound than a song like Cry of Achilles.

People singing annoyingly loud and out of tune

CELLPHONES - I could rant a page full on this

Being the driver for the night

Okay.. Before Tomorrow Comes. I understand why they play it. It got a lot of love from the audience. Luckily they launched into Farther than the Sun straight after. Makes for a great contrast. Dragging Generic AB Song vs Extremy Badass RIFF Turned Up To Eleven and Tuned The F**k Down!

Verdict of the night:

Alter Bridge are (perhaps contrary to the ABIII tour) on top of their game and are perhaps the best ROCK band in the world today.  :metal

Awesome. Glad you had a great time Pixel :metal

I agree on AB being the best hard rock band right now as well!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: mikeyd23 on November 06, 2013, 08:18:08 AM
It was just announced that Alter Bridge will be supporting Aerosmith to close out the Download Festival next summer!! This means they are the MAIN SUPPORT to Aerosmith on the final night of the festival, great time slot at about 7 or 7:30pm on the last night.  They will get about 70-75 minutes of set time.

(http://media-cms.livenation.eu/sites/downloadfestival/files/images/poster/wednesday_061113_0.png)

This is a huge deal for AB! So proud of them!!  :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: wolfking on November 07, 2013, 03:59:24 AM
I have come to the conclusion that Fortress is AB's best album.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: sylvan on November 07, 2013, 05:54:15 AM
I have come to the conclusion that Fortress is AB's best album.

Careful dude... that limbs about to break. :biggrin:

p.s. - Duhhhhhhhh!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Basekick on November 07, 2013, 08:40:50 AM
I have come to the conclusion that Fortress is AB's best album.

About time!   :tup
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Mister Gold on November 07, 2013, 07:24:13 PM
I have come to the conclusion that Fortress is AB's best album.

Well, obviously~ :tup :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2013, 03:21:22 AM
I just didn't want to jump the gun and be hasty, but it really is their best, by quite a long mile too.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: mikeyd23 on November 08, 2013, 07:13:17 AM
I just didn't want to jump the gun and be hasty, but it really is their best, by quite a long mile too.

Yeah, I was in the same boat.  I wanted to give the album time to sit for a little, but at this point I agree with you. I consider it their best work! Hopefully now the band catches on and starts playing more songs from it live!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Accelerando on November 08, 2013, 04:00:00 PM
Yeah, it really is. My first listen was I took a step back from thinking that because I wanted it to sink in. I thought maybe because I was being a fan boy. But honestly, the album exceeded my expectations, and they were pretty high.

I have to say, "Lover" is their best ballad since "Burn It Down" off their first record, and BID is in my top five AB songs of all time.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2013, 04:25:27 PM
Lover has grown on me a lot.  I still might like Watch Over You better, but it's a perfect addition to the album.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: mikeyd23 on November 13, 2013, 11:03:35 AM
Looks like they might finally play the title track to Fortress tomorrow:

(http://i.imgur.com/CtxU8FH.png)

Hopefully they do!!  :tup
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Accelerando on November 13, 2013, 03:33:14 PM
Yes!! :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: mikeyd23 on November 15, 2013, 08:06:51 AM
...And... They didn't play it... Haha hopefully next show!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Anguyen92 on November 16, 2013, 08:11:14 PM
This is as good as it gets, everyone.  They finally played it in their final show of this Europe tour.  Hopefully, they can keep playing it, because this is just outright awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HJQunW4uwY

Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: mikeyd23 on November 19, 2013, 08:06:20 AM
This is as good as it gets, everyone.  They finally played it in their final show of this Europe tour.  Hopefully, they can keep playing it, because this is just outright awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HJQunW4uwY

Alright!! That was great!  :tup
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: mikeyd23 on November 21, 2013, 08:18:07 AM
Rumors are now floating around that AB has pushed their US tour back to late spring rather than the beginning of the year  :sad:
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Mister Gold on November 21, 2013, 08:37:35 AM
Rumors are now floating around that AB has pushed their US tour back to late spring rather than the beginning of the year  :sad:

Yeah, which I find to be incredibly disappointing. I've heard it's either because the band wants to spend some time with their families (which would be understandable) or they're being forced by some other faction into delaying the US tour.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: mikeyd23 on November 21, 2013, 09:24:10 AM
Rumors are now floating around that AB has pushed their US tour back to late spring rather than the beginning of the year  :sad:

Yeah, which I find to be incredibly disappointing. I've heard it's either because the band wants to spend some time with their families (which would be understandable) or they're being forced by some other faction into delaying the US tour.

Agreed, very disappointing.  I think the thing that bothers me is the fact that Fortress is so good, and AB has so much room to grow bigger in the states.  They really need to use the momentum they have with the release of the record, a successful tour of Europe, including arenas played in the UK and tour the US sooner rather than later.  They are never going to really grow in the US until they start to make touring here more of a priority and take advantage of momentum when they have it.  If they wait till April/May to tour, they honestly will just probably get mostly die-hard AB fans at the shows and not attract as many new fans, because the hype around the album release will be very dead by then, or at least more so than it is now.

So they will end up playing for 1,000 people in smaller cities/towns and maybe what, like 2,000 or so in bigger cities? Compare that to the arenas in the UK that have more than 10,000 people showing up to see the band.  So, then the band will say to themselves, "well the US just still isn't embracing us, I guess we need to stick to touring Europe". When in reality, I think there is much more market potential for AB in the states if they would go about it the right way.

 
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Anguyen92 on November 21, 2013, 10:03:18 AM
Rumors are now floating around that AB has pushed their US tour back to late spring rather than the beginning of the year  :sad:

Yep, those are the rumors.   :tdwn . There also might be some rumors that they may hit South America and Japan before hitting Soundwave, maybe at the request of Roadrunner, which is nice since they may go to places they have never played before.

That makes me sad since I can't see them at the LA area, yet, but I know they always play there so I'm not that worried.  It's just the people that want to see them as a headlining act, but may not get that chance, since the timeline would be getter closer to the US festivals, that I'm sad for them about.

Oh well, that may speak loudly about the condition of live rock acts in the states and, in the end, the good US fans may get the butt end of it.

So they will end up playing for 1,000 people in smaller cities/towns and maybe what, like 2,000 or so in bigger cities? Compare that to the arenas in the UK that have more than 10,000 people showing up to see the band.  So, then the band will say to themselves, "well the US just still isn't embracing us, I guess we need to stick to touring Europe". When in reality, I think there is much more market potential for AB in the states if they would go about it the right way.

Agree.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: mikeyd23 on November 21, 2013, 10:12:58 AM

Yep, those are the rumors.   :tdwn . There also might be some rumors that they may hit South America and Japan before hitting Soundwave, maybe at the request of Roadrunner. 

Have they played those countries before? I didn't think they have... Which in that case is pretty cool for the band I'm sure, still sucks for US fans but exciting for the guys to get to play new places!

...It's just the people that want to see them as a headlining act, but may not get that chance, since the timeline would be getter closer to the US festivals, that I'm sad for them about....

Yeah I'm really hoping they still tour the states properly (headlining tour), rather than just playing US festival dates.  I'm not sure US festivals will start that early anyway, aren't they later in the summer?  Even if some festivals do start in May, mixing a few festival dates during a full tour would be the best of both worlds I guess.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: ZKX-2099 on December 04, 2013, 02:03:03 PM
I am fucking loving all of Fortress.

This is the album I have been waiting for them to make.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: OsMosis2259 on December 04, 2013, 10:41:47 PM
The album is great for sure.

Started listening to it again in the car!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Anguyen92 on December 06, 2013, 10:12:49 AM
Well, it's confirmed.  The rumors are true.  AB will be hitting Japan about a week before Soundwave.  Good for them hitting a new area that they have never played before.

http://www.alterbridge.com/news/2013-12/alter-bridge-to-rock-japan-in-february.aspx

Still waiting for them US tour dates to be announced, but I'll be patient for now.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: mikeyd23 on December 06, 2013, 10:14:42 AM
Well, it's confirmed.  The rumors are true.  AB will be hitting Japan about a week before Soundwave.  Good for them hitting a new area that they have never played before.

http://www.alterbridge.com/news/2013-12/alter-bridge-to-rock-japan-in-february.aspx

Still waiting for them US tour dates to be announced, but I'll be patient for now.

Wow! Thats great for AB, I'm happy to see them playing places they have never played before... And yes, I am still patientally awaiting US tour dates too, haha.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Basekick on December 09, 2013, 08:56:38 AM
U.S. Tour dates announced! 

http://www.alterbridge.com/news/2013-12/first-spring-usa-dates-announced.aspx

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We are pleased to announce the first dates of our Spring USA Tour. All tickets go on sale Friday the 13th. More dates will be announced. Here is what we have so far...

Apr 14 - Dallas, TX - House Of Blues

Apr 15 - Houston, TX - House Of Blues

Apr 19 - Atlanta, GA - Tabernacle

Apr 21 - Baltimore, MD - Rams Head Live

Apr 22 - Boston, MA - Royale Boston

Apr 24 - New York, NY - Best Buy Theater

May 1 - Minneapolis, MN - First Avenue

Anyone else planning to go to that that April 24th show?  I'm praying ticket prices will be sub $50.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Anguyen92 on December 09, 2013, 09:54:37 AM
I'm sure the prices is going to be below $50.  Can't tell if this is accurate, but this is how they did in the same venue, in 2011, and my reaction when I first saw it was "Score one for the good guys!"  The price looked pretty low enough and, at the rate, AB is expanding in the states (har har), the price should more or less be the same.

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344 Alter Bridge Best Buy Theater
New York, N.Y.
May 19, 2011
$50,500
2,150 / 2,150
1 / 1
$30, $25
AEG Live

http://pulsemusic.proboards.com/thread/107330
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: OsMosis2259 on December 13, 2013, 09:26:28 AM
US tour tickets on sale. I'm going to try to attend the NYC one  :metal

http://www.alterbridge.com/tour.aspx
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: mikeyd23 on December 13, 2013, 09:43:05 AM
Hopefully they release more dates soon! But its good to see at least a few US dates!  :tup
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Anguyen92 on December 16, 2013, 11:12:17 AM
Two more dates in the US have been announced.  One in Chicago (4/28) and One in Kansas City (5/2).  Some pretty decent reputable venues as well.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Elsydeon on December 16, 2013, 02:34:32 PM
just purchased my NYC ticket
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: wolfking on December 19, 2013, 03:38:17 AM
http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/alter-bridge-fortress-the-sound-the-story-instructional-dvd-coming-in-january/

WOW!!  I will definitely grab this.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: OsMosis2259 on December 19, 2013, 08:29:20 AM
http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/alter-bridge-fortress-the-sound-the-story-instructional-dvd-coming-in-january/

WOW!!  I will definitely grab this.

Yeah this looks really cool even if you aren't a musician or a guitar player!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: mikeyd23 on December 19, 2013, 09:33:36 AM
http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/alter-bridge-fortress-the-sound-the-story-instructional-dvd-coming-in-january/

WOW!!  I will definitely grab this.

Yeah this looks really cool even if you aren't a musician or a guitar player!

Yeah, I may have to pick this up, really great product idea!

I would love it if JP would release something like this for DT12, tons of great guitar work on there that would be very interesting to learn straight from the source.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Anguyen92 on January 03, 2014, 05:37:17 PM
I'm reading some comments regarding the Sound and the Story instructional DVD, at the ABNation forums, and I'm seeing comments that the dvd plays whole tracks instrumentally before starting the lesson. 

I'm like, man, that's excellent, since I sometimes want to sing some of their songs karaoke-style, like All Ends Well, but only the singles from the 1st two albums have karaoke versions. 

Sigh.... $40 bucks for this though.  This might be too much for me though.  I know its going to be worth it for the 6+ hours of content, but I just can't justify spending that much money on one product.  $30 is my threshold, but setting it at that price is silly.  Dang it.  Oh well.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: mikeyd23 on January 06, 2014, 08:31:04 AM
I'm reading some comments regarding the Sound and the Story instructional DVD, at the ABNation forums, and I'm seeing comments that the dvd plays whole tracks instrumentally before starting the lesson. 

I'm like, man, that's excellent, since I sometimes want to sing some of their songs karaoke-style, like All Ends Well, but only the singles from the 1st two albums have karaoke versions. 

Sigh.... $40 bucks for this though.  This might be too much for me though.  I know its going to be worth it for the 6+ hours of content, but I just can't justify spending that much money on one product.  $30 is my threshold, but setting it at that price is silly.  Dang it.  Oh well.

Yeah I'm very interested in this Sound and Story DVD... As a guitarist I think it would be a great product to have and $40 for over 6 hours of content really isn't that bad.... I'll have to look into this more, I feel like I would really enjoy learning guitar riffs and solos from Mark and Myles!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: LCArenas on January 14, 2014, 07:59:48 AM
Boy, Never Say Die (Outright) is just a powerful track. Wonder why they'd left it as a bonus track, but I suppose it's because the uplifting sound of the song contrasts with the darker atmosphere of the album. Anyway it's great- and it would be a perfect closer for every concert they do.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: mikeyd23 on January 14, 2014, 02:22:00 PM
Boy, Never Say Die (Outright) is just a powerful track. Wonder why they'd left it as a bonus track, but I suppose it's because the uplifting sound of the song contrasts with the darker atmosphere of the album. Anyway it's great- and it would be a perfect closer for every concert they do.

Yeah I really dig this tune as well...  Is it just me or do the drums sound incredible on this song? In particular the kick drum sounds massive!!  Really cool song, but like you said, it was probably left off the album and just included as a b-side because it doesn't really fit with the atmosphere the rest of the album establishes. 
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Anguyen92 on January 14, 2014, 04:04:13 PM
I loved Never Say Die.  Good cherry tune that actually did sound like a closing song of a album (and for those that bought the album at Best Buy, myself included, it was the closing song).  But yeah, the album was a moody atmosphere and they probably think that they could fit one definite uplifting song in the album and choose All Ends Well, which I have no problems with.

Anywho, this is shaping up to be a good touring year for AB.  Some shows in Australia, four shows in Asia, 11 shows in the US with more announced soon, and some great positions during the summer Europe festivals.  I'm still waiting for an LA date, but I know that's coming soon, hopefully, so yeah.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: wolfking on January 14, 2014, 07:07:05 PM
I'm super pissed that they are only doing the festivals in Australia.  I was hoping for some side shows.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: bl5150 on January 14, 2014, 07:20:03 PM
I'm super pissed that they are only doing the festivals in Australia.  I was hoping for some side shows.

Did you see them with Steel Panther a couple of years back?.   I did and wasn't particularly impressed - very muddy sound and the songs chosen were just okay.  Maybe it was partly because having Steel Panther open for you is a real curse  ;D ......almost anything would be a letdown.  About 30% of the crowd just left after Steel Panther too if I recall correct.

I'll admit I was there more as an SP fan , but even so they were just okay.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: LCArenas on January 15, 2014, 02:00:05 PM
Tremonti > You
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: mikeyd23 on January 15, 2014, 02:24:43 PM
I'm super pissed that they are only doing the festivals in Australia.  I was hoping for some side shows.

Did you see them with Steel Panther a couple of years back?.   I did and wasn't particularly impressed - very muddy sound and the songs chosen were just okay.  Maybe it was partly because having Steel Panther open for you is a real curse  ;D ......almost anything would be a letdown.  About 30% of the crowd just left after Steel Panther too if I recall correct.

I'll admit I was there more as an SP fan , but even so they were just okay.

Huh, thats pretty interesting... I'm not just saying this because I'm a huge AB fan, but you are probably one of the first people I've ever heard say an AB show was a letdown.  They are usually pretty great live, sorry you had a bad experience, maybe it was an off night for them.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Anguyen92 on January 15, 2014, 03:54:08 PM
Maybe, that person was not really being accustomed to hearing the songs played at a speed that they were playing, back then. 
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: bl5150 on January 15, 2014, 03:56:27 PM
Tremonti > You


That cuts deep.

How old are you?  12?

FTR I listen to Alter Bridge for the songs and not because I rate Tremonti as some sort of guitar hero.  I would rate him a very solid player
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: LCArenas on January 15, 2014, 10:32:53 PM
Tremonti > You


That cuts deep.

How old are you?  12?

FTR I listen to Alter Bridge for the songs and not because I rate Tremonti as some sort of guitar hero.  I would rate him a very solid player
Calm down man, I was talking about the band Tremonti, which I was listening to when I posted that :lol. There was a thread about the band but was too lazy to find it.  I wasn't referring to you specifically.  :chill
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: bl5150 on January 15, 2014, 10:35:29 PM
Apologies..................that's how it read  :angel:
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: wolfking on January 16, 2014, 04:46:29 AM
I'm super pissed that they are only doing the festivals in Australia.  I was hoping for some side shows.

Did you see them with Steel Panther a couple of years back?.   I did and wasn't particularly impressed - very muddy sound and the songs chosen were just okay.  Maybe it was partly because having Steel Panther open for you is a real curse  ;D ......almost anything would be a letdown.  About 30% of the crowd just left after Steel Panther too if I recall correct.

I'll admit I was there more as an SP fan , but even so they were just okay.

No, I didn't see them.  Having SP open is just weird.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: bl5150 on January 16, 2014, 04:53:14 AM
it was a co-headliner tour  (sideshows to Soundwave I think) -  SP opened in Melbourne , AB opened in Sydney.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: wolfking on January 16, 2014, 04:57:16 AM
That's still just an odd combo.

Anyway, I don't normally like cash grabs, but I'm actually hoping they do something like AB3 and release some sort of tour edition of Fortress with the bonus track and maybe a live DVD or at least some live new tracks.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Accelerando on January 16, 2014, 08:27:32 AM
Ooh I did like that package.

If you don't like cash grabs, then you'll definitely will not like this  :laugh:

http://www.alterbridgeboxset.com
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: OsMosis2259 on January 16, 2014, 12:37:10 PM
Boy, Never Say Die (Outright) is just a powerful track. Wonder why they'd left it as a bonus track, but I suppose it's because the uplifting sound of the song contrasts with the darker atmosphere of the album. Anyway it's great- and it would be a perfect closer for every concert they do.

Why does the song have two different titles?
On mine it says Outright. I got mine from Best Buy in the USA.

Anyway, it's a decent track. Probably the weakest on Fortress so I'm not surprised that it was left off the album.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Anguyen92 on January 16, 2014, 01:03:24 PM
I think I read somewhere in a Myles interview where when he heard that the bonus track was called "Outright", he stated something like that was a working title and that the actual title was meant to be "Never Say Die".  I don't remember.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Anguyen92 on January 16, 2014, 09:37:01 PM
Good news, people that reads this thread and is from Australia.  AB has got themselves booked into some sideshows.  The other act playing is not Steel Panther, thankfully.  It's Living Colour.

http://themusic.com.au/news/all/2014/01/17/alter-bridge-and-living-colour-lock-in-two-sidewaves/

Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: wolfking on January 17, 2014, 03:22:51 AM
NO FUCKING BRISBANE!!   >:(
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: sylvan on January 17, 2014, 06:54:08 AM
Good news, people that reads this thread and is from Australia.  AB has got themselves booked into some sideshows.  The other act playing is not Steel Panther, thankfully.  It's Living Colour.

http://themusic.com.au/news/all/2014/01/17/alter-bridge-and-living-colour-lock-in-two-sidewaves/

I remember a while back someone here said something like, "Living Colour is playing down the street from my house.  Should I go see them?"  HUH?  Are you for serious?  Anyways, what an oddball pairing that will likely result in a kick ass show.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on January 20, 2014, 01:22:28 PM
Down to My Last :heart
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: bl5150 on January 20, 2014, 09:09:27 PM
I finally got around to giving Fortress a good listen and unfortunately for me it doesn't live up to the hype.  I'd rate it lower than ABIII mostly because there's not one song that grabs me and begs for a repeated listens like Isolation and (less so ) Still Remains did .

Alter Bridge have always been a bit of a "compilation band" for me - I usually really like 2-3 songs off each album and the rest of the songs just blend into each other.   I find Fortress a bit the same -the songs, sound and the vocals don't vary much at all. 

My favourite tracks/moments:

Cry of Achilles
Lover
Calm The Fire (this one had the potential to be huge but I found the chorus didn't live up to the riff/verse)

I also enjoyed the more progressive mid section of Fortress (the song) but not fussed about the rest.

I will return to the above 3 or 4 tracks and give them a chance to grow but I'd struggle to listen to the album from start to finish again.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: wolfking on January 21, 2014, 03:25:06 AM
Keep listening.  It's a grower.  When I first listened to it, my impressions were basically, 'meh'.  Now, for me it's easily their best album by a long shot.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: ZKX-2099 on January 21, 2014, 06:47:48 AM
I wanna say all their other albums are growers. This is the first one that has hit me immeadeately. But I do agree that it's easily their best album by a long shot.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: mikeyd23 on January 21, 2014, 07:30:49 AM
None of AB's albums have really been growers for me ever, but then again, they are easily one of my favorite bands so I typically enjoy most of their work as soon as I hear it.  I will say this about Fortress though; even though I liked it from the first listen, there is so much going on throughout that record that it took me many, many additional listens to fully appreciate all the work AB had done.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Accelerando on January 21, 2014, 10:42:43 PM
None of AB's albums have really been growers for me ever, but then again, they are easily one of my favorite bands so I typically enjoy most of their work as soon as I hear it.  I will say this about Fortress though; even though I liked it from the first listen, there is so much going on throughout that record that it took me many, many additional listens to fully appreciate all the work AB had done.

This.


One Day Remains is their most accessible album. It's easy listening, hard rocking, and some beautiful melodic pieces of work, like, FlyingBIZKIT pointed out, Down To My Last..which to me is one of the top vocal performances by Myles as a member of Alter Bridge. With Blackbird and ABIII, they are mixing in progressive elements to the recipe, and Fortress just brings everything they've worked into fruition. Before, Mark and Myles were leading the band musically, but you can tell the jump that Brian and Flip did to make the sound complete. I think Flip was the most improved a musician. His kinetics are just killer. Brian's bass playing is just more noticeable due to the improved mixing of the album. 
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: LudwigVan on January 22, 2014, 07:51:27 AM
I'm rather new to Alter Bridge, but Myles Kennedy has quickly become one of my favorite vocalists.  I don't necessarily think it always works out musically, but color me intriqued by the progressive elements they've added to their last 2 albums.  I even hear bits of Bach and other classical stuff in their music. 
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Accelerando on January 28, 2014, 01:42:58 AM
I'm rather new to Alter Bridge, but Myles Kennedy has quickly become one of my favorite vocalists.  I don't necessarily think it always works out musically, but color me intriqued by the progressive elements they've added to their last 2 albums.  I even hear bits of Bach and other classical stuff in their music.

Yes! Like Wayward One....the chorus riff is Bach's Bourrée in E minor
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: LudwigVan on January 29, 2014, 10:16:44 AM
I'm rather new to Alter Bridge, but Myles Kennedy has quickly become one of my favorite vocalists.  I don't necessarily think it always works out musically, but color me intriqued by the progressive elements they've added to their last 2 albums.  I even hear bits of Bach and other classical stuff in their music.

Yes! Like Wayward One....the chorus riff is Bach's Bourrée in E minor

Love that opening acoustic passage to Cry of Achilles.  It segues nicely from Zeppelin-esque to Spanish flamenco.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: ZKX-2099 on January 29, 2014, 12:44:08 PM
The whole album is rediculously good.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: sylvan on February 08, 2014, 11:09:56 AM
http://www.welcometorockvillefestival.com/lineup.html
Just found out that AB is coming back to Jax, Fl, much to my ridiculously overwhelming surprise.  They played a small festival here years ago and the reception was beyond disrespectful.  I hope the scumbags stay home this time.  Anyways, Saturday looks like my day... AB, A7X, Motörhead, The Cult, Hell Yeah, Fozzy (what!).  I am just a wee bit excited. :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: rickhawk80 on February 08, 2014, 09:12:50 PM
That festival lineup is pretty sweet, Sylvan.  :hat  You'll also get Monster Truck, which is the band that will be opening for AB when they play near me in May, and you get Volbeat, which is a very mercurial band --  some love them, some hate them.  I fall in the  :heart category.  Saw them 3x last year and they put on a fantastic show with a varied set list every time.  :clap:

Sadly, I suspect it may be one of your last chances to see Motorhead, too, considering his up and down health lately.   :sadpanda:
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Jamesman42 on February 17, 2014, 02:34:47 PM
New album is awesome. Calm the Fire is soooooooooo good.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: bosk1 on February 17, 2014, 02:36:45 PM
Ugh.  I didn't realize your taste in music had suffered so much since you had been gone.  Thank goodness you are back here before it is too late.  Hopefully, this board will get you acclimated back to good music again quickly.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Jamesman42 on February 17, 2014, 02:37:30 PM
Damn you! Hey, I loved DT12 though! :lol
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Accelerando on February 17, 2014, 04:05:09 PM
Mark and Myles were on That Metal Show this weekend. You can watch the full episode here!

http://www.vh1.com/video/that-metal-show/full-episodes/alter-bridge-matt-nathanson/1722204/playlist.jhtml
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: LCArenas on February 17, 2014, 07:39:13 PM
Misheard AB lyrics?
"I Found a tree and all of it's broken" (Lover)
"Coraline is calling out, and it won't be long" (Coeur d'Alene)
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Accelerando on February 21, 2014, 02:50:11 PM
Billboard some acoustic performances from Mark and Myles for Billboard Studio.

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/5915590/alter-bridge-myles-kennedy-mark-tremonti-rock-the-billboard-studio-watch?utm_source=twitter

I wish they do other songs acoustically other than Rise Today and Watch Over You. Last year they did All Hope Is Gone on acoustics, and fuck, was it epic!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: sylvan on March 12, 2014, 04:03:16 PM
Random:
Just heard Creed "Are You Ready" as the intro for Golf Central on the Golf Channel.

I can't wait for Rockville.  Getting more psyched everyday.  Four years without seeing them, then twice in nine months.  :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Fortress
Post by: Accelerando on March 22, 2014, 02:35:39 AM
Trailer for "Live In Milan"

http://youtu.be/QzEGbuwLnDY

I was hoping they would stop the trend of naming every damn live album/dvd of their "Live In..."...I mean, The Rolling Stones has a live album called "Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out!" for pete's sake  :lol I'm still stoked about this

 :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: sylvan on March 22, 2014, 06:33:08 AM
Oooohhhh! :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: Anguyen92 on March 22, 2014, 10:54:22 AM
Wheeeeeee!!!!!!!!  Definitely going to do purchase this one.  A lot of good things from that show, I hear.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: wolfking on March 23, 2014, 03:14:47 AM
Cool shit. 
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: OsMosis2259 on March 24, 2014, 08:32:54 AM
 :metal :corn
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: mikeyd23 on March 24, 2014, 08:39:48 AM
Oh yeah!!!! Can't wait!!  :metal :metal

Hopefully this live album actually comes out on schedule, AB have a history of having live releases delayed...
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: Anguyen92 on March 24, 2014, 12:34:04 PM
Oh yeah!!!! Can't wait!!  :metal :metal

Hopefully this live album actually comes out on schedule, AB have a history of having live releases delayed...

They only had one incident of live releases being delayed and, naturally, I blame the 1st two record labels they signed with for that.  The Wembley DVD was released in a timely manner.  Right?
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: mikeyd23 on March 24, 2014, 12:43:43 PM
Oh yeah!!!! Can't wait!!  :metal :metal

Hopefully this live album actually comes out on schedule, AB have a history of having live releases delayed...

They only had one incident of live releases being delayed and, naturally, I blame the 1st two record labels they signed with for that.  The Wembley DVD was released in a timely manner.  Right?

You might be right, the Wembley DVD might have come out on time, but wasn't Live from Amsterdam delayed for a really long time? Like over a year or something? Maybe thats what I'm remembering...
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: Anguyen92 on March 24, 2014, 12:58:08 PM
Yep, the Live From Amsterdam DVD was delayed.  It was slotted to be released in 2009, wasn't released until early 2011.  That was somewhat of an ugly moment for them.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: mikeyd23 on March 24, 2014, 01:16:59 PM
Yep, the Live From Amsterdam DVD was delayed.  It was slotted to be released in 2009, wasn't released until early 2011.  That was somewhat of an ugly moment for them.

Ah, yeah that must be what I'm remembering! Well since all those old record label issues have been sorted out, this new live album shouldn't be effected by those circumstances.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: Accelerando on March 26, 2014, 01:58:42 AM
Looks like 'Cry of Achilles' is going to be the next single!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: Accelerando on March 26, 2014, 03:33:02 AM
Here's a really cool video that you have to check out. Fuse Follows did an episode with Mark and Myles. Really cool video, and more intimate than most. It follows Mark and Myles as they go to a vinyl record store and a guitar shop. I love the moments where they get super excited over guitars! There's also a cool moment with a Mayfield Four fan

http://www.fuse.tv/videos/2014/03/fuse-follows-alter-bridge#ooid=A4djNkbDq6-PF3r-d3juVgbixz_4aAb4

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In the latest episode of Fuse Follows, hard rockers Myles Kennedy and Mark Tremonti of Alter Bridge let us tail them around NYC as they deliver a live radio performance, go record shopping in Greenwich Village and impulse-buy some vintage guitars.

While swinging through Q104.3 rock radio, singer-guitarist Kennedy and lead guitarist Tremonti play an acoustic a set and encounter a fan who tells Kennedy how much she loves his former band, The Mayfield Four, a relatively obscure act from the '90s.

"That record was so under the radar, there weren't that many copies printed," an astonished Kennedy says after the meeting. "So any time someone comes up and mentions they listened to it, it's nice."

Tremonti reminds Kennedy that Mayfield Four used to open for his old band—Creed—which is what connected the two in the first place. "That's why we came calling," Tremonti says. "I had a buddy who was like, 'Hey man, remember this band that used to open for you guys? The singer was amazing.' He had the CD in his car and was playing it. That's when I was like, 'Yeah, this guy is… he's okay.'"

Inside Greenwich Village's Generation Records, Tremonti explains the influence of thrash on his style. "Riff-wise, I take a lot from Slayer," he acknowledges. "But I didn’t realize it until I got older."

Flipping through old records, Kennedy comes across an LP from vocal legend Dionne Warwick. "Her string arranger actually gave me my very first shot," Kennedy recalls. "Back in the early '90s he produced a record I did with a group called Citizen Swing. Every time I hear Dionne Warwick I think of this guy, Joe Kloess, who gave me my first real shot. Gotta love Dionne for that."

To see Kennedy & Tremonti testing out two vintage guitars in a music store, watch the full episode of Fuse Follows above. As Tremonti puts it, "Who would have thought we'd walk into [a guitar shop] and spend my kid's tuition today?"
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: wolfking on March 26, 2014, 04:46:38 AM
Looks like 'Cry of Achilles' is going to be the next single!

Does the word 'single' even mean anything anymore?
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: mikeyd23 on March 26, 2014, 08:28:41 AM
That was a really cool video, thanks for posting it!  Its a shame they blurred out the prices on the guitars, I'd be curious to see how much they cost!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: Anguyen92 on March 26, 2014, 12:15:36 PM
Looks like 'Cry of Achilles' is going to be the next single!

Does the word 'single' even mean anything anymore?

Not really, but any chance AB can try to send out one track for radio listeners (as rare as it may seem nowadays) to listen to and try to gain new fans like that is always a good thing and Cry of Achilles could be that big chance that could get them over in the US in that sense, but that's my optimism though.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: mikeyd23 on March 26, 2014, 12:21:37 PM
Not really, but any chance AB can try to send out one track for radio listeners (as rare as it may seem nowadays) to listen to and try to gain new fans like that is always a good thing and Cry of Achilles could be that big chance that could get them over in the US in that sense, but that's my optimism though.

I agree singles don't mean much any more, but I still am happy to see this song picked as a single just because its so darn good! I think its probably the best song off the new album, so for me, its just encouraging to see them want to promote a great song.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: OsMosis2259 on March 26, 2014, 03:00:40 PM
Hopefully there is no radio edit!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: mikeyd23 on March 27, 2014, 11:27:12 AM
Hopefully there is no radio edit!

Agreed! There isnt a single thing I would cut out of that song!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: Accelerando on March 27, 2014, 02:29:15 PM
The song is perfection. I think Alter Bridge would fight to not have a radio edit. I remember Mark fighting for the solo on Open Your Eyes not being cut out by radio stations.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: wolfking on March 27, 2014, 05:47:37 PM
The song is perfection. I think Alter Bridge would fight to not have a radio edit. I remember Mark fighting for the solo on Open Your Eyes not being cut out by radio stations.

I never understood why they bothered cutting the last like two bars from the end of the solo going back into the chorus.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: ZKX-2099 on March 27, 2014, 07:45:06 PM
The song is perfection. I think Alter Bridge would fight to not have a radio edit. I remember Mark fighting for the solo on Open Your Eyes not being cut out by radio stations.

I never understood why they bothered cutting the last like two bars from the end of the solo going back into the chorus.

Better question: Who hears that solo and thinks to cut any of it?
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: wolfking on March 27, 2014, 08:57:47 PM
The song is perfection. I think Alter Bridge would fight to not have a radio edit. I remember Mark fighting for the solo on Open Your Eyes not being cut out by radio stations.

I never understood why they bothered cutting the last like two bars from the end of the solo going back into the chorus.

Better question: Who hears that solo and thinks to cut any of it?

yeah I know, but I just don't understand why they cut what they did.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: Anguyen92 on March 27, 2014, 09:31:27 PM
^^ I don't know why but, with questions like this, I always have one default answer.  I blame Wind-Up Records.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: Accelerando on March 31, 2014, 01:29:20 AM
^^ I don't know why but, with questions like this, I always have one default answer.  I blame Wind-Up Records.

Bingo  :tup
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: Elsydeon on April 07, 2014, 01:26:42 PM
Are there enough people going to the NYC show 4/24 to arrange a DTF meetup?
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: Basekick on April 10, 2014, 10:01:50 AM
Are there enough people going to the NYC show 4/24 to arrange a DTF meetup?

I'll be going!  I may also have an extra ticket if someone is in need of one.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: Anguyen92 on April 11, 2014, 10:54:27 AM
A nice little contest for some cash.  I wish I had some ideas for a video on a song like Lover.  If only Slash's Anastasia had a video contest like that instead of that video that was released for the song.

(http://i.imgur.com/1by0NbK.png)
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: Accelerando on April 16, 2014, 03:51:35 PM
If only I had the money to make the music video I'd want to make  :-\

Here's an idea! Why don't they just give me the $4200 bucks for me to make the video, then i'll win, and they don't have to give me squat?  ;D


While you ponder on that ridiculous thought, here's an awesome show review

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Alter Bridge deserves to be one of the biggest bands in North America.

Typically by a fourth album and a decade together, an average hard rock group’s popularity will wane significantly. Just the opposite has happened in the case of Alter Bridge—and rightfully so. 2013’s Fortress has only fortified and expanded Alter Bridge Nation, leaving last night’s second tour show in Houston completely sold out. You could barely move within the venue.

It didn’t feel like the House of Blues though. Myles Kennedy, Mark Tremonti, Brian Marshall, and Scott Phillips made it feel as if they were back in front of the packed house at Wembley Arena. That’s one of many reasons the band warrant massive recognition and super stardom over here.

“Addicted to Pain” ignited the onslaught with Tremonti’s precision shredding and riffing and Kennedy’s distinct wail. All four members captured the exact bombast of the recorded material, while infusing an extra kick live, impressively. "Find the Real" teetered between a shuddering pinch harmonic and a pounding rhythm. In the middle of "Come to Life", the sound subsided momentarily from the stage as the entire crowd sang on cue, “Don’t forget we’re here to stay”. The line held seriously weight as Alter Bridge have been through it all from multiple label changes and the proverbial "starting over" after Creed, and they’re still trudging along stronger than ever.

Kennedy smiled, "This is a real treat for us. We’ve all sold this out together, apparently. That’s good to see in the U.S. of A, rock ‘n’ roll alive and well".

That’s the point most people are missing though. The band gets it as do the countless rock fans out there. There’s a need for Alter Bridge.

In a day and age where fashion, social media, and culture subsume the actual music, it’s invigorating to watch an outfit like Alter Bridge thrive stateside. Coachella’s about being noticed for something other than music, as are most festivals in North America. It’s a party culture, and it doesn’t matter if you can rip like these guys. However, it should matter. It did in the seventies, eighties, and nineties.

Moreover, the rock market has become strictly "heritage", whether it’s Jane's Addiction and Alice in Chains touring together or any other classic pairing, Alter Bridge only has ten years under its belt as a brand. Their contemporaries often boast many more.

This quartet could lead a new guard. Keep in mind these guys sold out Wembley in the UK and will be a main stage act at Download. They’re gods over in the UK and they are here too, but more Americans need to recognize that fact too.

Speaking of divine, "Cry of Achilles" bobbed from a tribal drum beat by Phillips as Kennedy finger-picked the charging clean intro before Tremonti engaged full-on six-string destruction. "Brand New Start" sounded stadium-ready with Kennedy’s voice soaring all the way back to his native Washington from Texas. "Ties That Bind" remained just hypnotically heavy, while Tremonti took the mic for the apocalyptic "Waters Rising", another Fortress standout.

"Isolation" shook the venue with a flawless delivery and unanimous sing-a-long, and Kennedy conducted the audience during a bruising "White Knuckles" that left everybody gut-punched and begging for more. "Metalingus" saw Kennedy belt out a seismic refrain as Tremonti’s laser-like fretwork practically melted his guitar neck.

An emotional highpoint came during their very own "Stairway to Heaven", "Blackbird". The slow simmering build eventually took flight into an earth-shattering refrain wrapped in more guitar fireworks. Everybody sang each word, practically humming the chord changes as well. Kennedy took to the stage with just an acoustic guitar for the poignant ballad "Watch Over You", while "Open Your Eyes" had everybody watching.

The members took a short reprieve before returning with the dark falsetto of Fortress’s "Calm the Fire", which burned right into more elegantly tight soloing from Tremonti. Speaking of soloing, Kennedy and Tremonti both practically tore a hole in the sky from all of the fast shredding leading into "Rise Today", giving a fitting conclusion to a robust instrumental showing the entire night.

Given all of this, Alter Bridge deserve to be owning arenas across the United States. Their trajectory hints at it too. Fortress remains a genuine artistic milestone and a crucial rock record. It’s time for a revolution over here. It’s time for Alter Bridge to rule...

Read more at http://www.artistdirect.com/entertainment-news/article/feature-why-alter-bridge-should-be-one-of-the-biggest-bands-in-america/10937393#v1y6oivDZvqXL2vt.99

http://www.artistdirect.com/entertainment-news/article/feature-why-alter-bridge-should-be-one-of-the-biggest-bands-in-america/10937393#zE5tY8Y7rIs2YLFB.01
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: rickhawk80 on April 16, 2014, 08:17:00 PM
I've given the new album more full listens than any of the other ones and, try as I might, it's just not really doing any more for me than the other albums.  :|  I've bought each AB album when it was released, and each time I find that I truly love about 3-5 of the songs on the album and find the rest of them don't make any real impact on me.  Then I download the few songs I like to my iPod and re-sell the CD at the used CD store near me.  The same thing is about to happen again with "Fortress." 

Love Myles Kennedy's voice, love everything he does with Slash, and thought he was fantastic when I saw him live with Slash last year ... but each AB album is only about a 40% win rate for me ....

Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: mikeyd23 on April 17, 2014, 07:25:28 AM
Great show review there! Man, I wish they were coming near me on this US tour!  :sad:
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: Scorpion on April 19, 2014, 07:36:01 PM
So for some reason I only recently started listening to AB, like, really. Only have Blackbird at the moment, but it's an awesome awesome album. Blackbird, Watch Over Your, Ties That Bind, Wayward One, White Knuckles... fuck, the whole album.

But especially those five.

What next? From what I've read online, I'm leaning towards Fortress, but I'd like your opinions.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: wolfking on April 19, 2014, 08:36:41 PM
Fortress, then One Day Remains, then AB3.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: LudwigVan on April 19, 2014, 11:19:56 PM
Just get all their albums. I love all 4.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: Accelerando on April 27, 2014, 06:29:17 PM
I did a top thirty Alter Bridge songs list a long time ago, around the time AB III was released. I cant find it so the Mod's probably deleted it, but I was thinking of writing down a new list now Fortress has been out for some time. Cry of Achilles and Calm The Fire are definitely in the top 10; COA in the top 3 for sure.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: OsMosis2259 on April 29, 2014, 02:26:33 PM
I saw them live for the first time in NYC on Thursday and it was a tight performance! On the DVDs, they played the songs A LOT faster but everything is just a lot tighter now! Played at the same tempo as the album.

They were very interactive with the crowd which was awesome.  :tup

Great show, great band... They need to be bigger in the US!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: mikeyd23 on April 29, 2014, 02:28:07 PM
I saw them live for the first time in NYC on Thursday and it was a tight performance! On the DVDs, they played the songs A LOT faster but everything is just a lot tighter now! Played at the same tempo as the album.

They were very interactive with the crowd which was awesome.  :tup

Great show, great band... They need to be bigger in the US!

Great to hear you had a great time! I agree they need to be bigger in the US, but unless the band really takes the time to properly promote Fortress in the US, it certainly won't happen!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: Anguyen92 on April 29, 2014, 06:08:23 PM
How does one try to be bigger?  Get an opening slot of one of the bigger bands in the States?  There are few bands out there where I can accept AB opening for them and that will work well in their favor (Iron Maiden, Foo Fighters, Soundgarden, Alice in Chains comes to mind for me).

I mean for goodness sake's mon, Myles/Slash/Conspirators got an opening slot for Aerosmith in the states for the summer while, in Europe festivals, AB is subheading three shows (two festivals and one non-festival show with AB opening) with Aerosmith being the headliners.

The only outlets, I can see AB getting bigger in the states is hope that Cry of Achilles blows up as a single and raise their visibility or open for a bigger band that's not already committed to shows.  Quite frankly, I'm not going to think about any of this after AB is going to play a headlining show in LA whenever it may be.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: mikeyd23 on April 30, 2014, 07:47:19 AM
How does one try to be bigger?  Get an opening slot of one of the bigger bands in the States?  There are few bands out there where I can accept AB opening for them and that will work well in their favor (Iron Maiden, Foo Fighters, Soundgarden, Alice in Chains comes to mind for me).

I mean for goodness sake's mon, Myles/Slash/Conspirators got an opening slot for Aerosmith in the states for the summer while, in Europe festivals, AB is subheading three shows (two festivals and one non-festival show with AB opening) with Aerosmith being the headliners.

The only outlets, I can see AB getting bigger in the states is hope that Cry of Achilles blows up as a single and raise their visibility or open for a bigger band that's not already committed to shows.  Quite frankly, I'm not going to think about any of this after AB is going to play a headlining show in LA whenever it may be.

How can AB continue to grow in the states? Well it certainly won't be from Cry of Achilles, a six and half minute song with a unique arrangement structure "blowing up" as some kind of monster rock radio single. I love the song, in fact, its probably become one of my favorite AB songs ever, but that's probably not going to happen. 

Regardless, consistent touring to promote a great album is what will grow the AB fan base in the states moving forward. The fact of the matter is, Europe will probably always be AB's number one priority, they will probably continue to support their future album releases properly to that portion of the world.  And I honestly can't blame them, that's how they make a living and pay the bills.  But that doesn't change the fact that they have booked, literally like 10 headlining shows in the states to promote Fortress on tour.  10 shows.... In 10 cities.... I don't think thats going to cut it  :lol

The fact of the matter is that they have an established fan base in the states, but in order to maintain and grow that base they need to get out and deliver their product to as many people as they can.  Hitting 10 shows won't do that successfully.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: Dark Castle on April 30, 2014, 12:05:03 PM
The answer to how can they get bigger is simple. Bring on Nicky Spanjaards.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: mikeyd23 on April 30, 2014, 12:58:40 PM
Haha of course! I did see a Cry of Achilles vocal cover from him pop up recently... Clearly that is the way to go!  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: Accelerando on May 01, 2014, 01:42:16 AM
Oh god, I just watched that video  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: Anguyen92 on May 05, 2014, 12:55:02 PM
Right, ok.  Apparently, AB has got another video contest.  This one is for Cry of Achilles.

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The Project
American rock band Alter Bridge is giving you an amazing opportunity to create the official music video for another song 'Cry Of Achilles'! The project allows complete creative freedom - so take a listen and be inspired by this track!
Deadline for submissions is June 16, 2014, 23:59 GMT time.

Awards & Judging
The selected video will receive $7,000 and have their video used as the official music video for Cry Of Achilles!
The official selection and finalist group will be chosen by Alter Bridge and Genero.

http://genero.tv/cryofachilles/

I hope people that actually enter this thing do this song justice at a price they like to spend on.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: Accelerando on May 07, 2014, 12:54:35 AM
That's my issue is I need the money to make it. In fact, I need the money to make many of the projects I want to make. Life of a struggling artist  :millahhhh
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: mikeyd23 on May 13, 2014, 10:57:29 AM
"18 Things Only Alter Bridge Fans Will Understand"

http://whatculture.com/music/18-things-alter-bridge-fans-will-understand.php

This. Is. Awesome.  :lol :lol
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: Anguyen92 on May 13, 2014, 05:09:27 PM
All right, so far, there is three videos that people had submitted for Lover.  I think this is the best one so far, due to the fact that it fits the lyrics and the timing of the song, although that's not really quite a stretch.

http://genero.tv/watch-video/38248

The other two? Well, there is one where the guy was filming desolated landscape with a shot of a fire burning, and there's another one with some male and female dancers, a girl with a doll, a man in a bed, and some boxers punching each other (with a scene where they ripped a pillow in front the man in the bed).

http://genero.tv/watch-video/38247

http://genero.tv/watch-video/38244

Sigh.... independent video contests.  A lot of cooky and intriguing ideas out there.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: fadetoblackdude7 on June 08, 2014, 11:26:52 AM
New to this thread, new fan of the band.

I've known about them since they formed and heard all of their hits on the radio, but kinda brushed em off as 'Creed with a different frontman' (I hate Creed!)

However, a couple months ago, a buddy of mine offered me a free ticket to the 2nd show at the House of Blues in Chicago and I said sure, what the hell...free show! After the show, I was blown away by their performance and their musicianship and my buddy who took me to the show told me to grab Fortress which he said is their best album to date....I am IN LOVE with that record.

Probably gonna grab the other 3 pretty soon, but he warned me to lower my expectations after hearing Fortress first, especially AB III, which he said is their weakest. Anyway, fuck yeah to this band!!!!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: Scorpion on June 08, 2014, 11:30:28 AM
I would rank Fortress and Blackbird similarly high, and the debut and ABIII are both about equal as well, though no where near as good as the aforementioned two, so I think at least you'll like Blackbird quite a bit. The title track on that one remains my favourite AB song by quite a distance.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: PixelDream on June 08, 2014, 12:26:47 PM
I don't think the rest of the discography will disappoint someone who's into Fortress. Going for Blackbird next might be a good move, and about the title track: Even the band themselves have said they'll probably never top that song. In fact, that song is in a whole other stratosphere for AB. It's in the realms of Classic Rock, all the way. I don't know if I'll get shot for saying this, but I don't think 'Blackbird' is any less good of an epic than a 'Stairway to Heaven' is. Stairway came first, so ofcourse Led Zep were much more original. But quality wise, it's so close it's not even funny.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: Scorpion on June 08, 2014, 01:41:03 PM
Yeah, Blackbird is a whole 'nother level. I mean, I enjoy most of AB's stuff, but Blackbird is the best by such a large margin it's ridiculous.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: mikeyd23 on June 09, 2014, 08:10:27 AM
Agreed, I'd still consider Blackbird their best studio release as well.  Although, Fortress certainly gave it a run for it's money in my book.  IMO, AB has never made a "bad" album.  I'd say One Day Remains and ABIII get less spins than Fortress and BB for me, but all 4 albums are killer in there own right.

Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: Basekick on June 09, 2014, 10:21:51 AM
If there is a song that comes close to Blackbird, it would be Cry of Achilles for me.  I just love that song too much.

Don't close your eeeeyyyyyeeesss
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: Accelerando on June 09, 2014, 01:25:51 PM
It is the general consensus that ABIII is their weakest album. I agree to an extent, but to me, some of Alter Bridge's best moments shine on that album. The bridge to All Hope Is Gone is beautiful eerie, and epic. That song, and Slip To The Void, is easily a top 5 Alter Bridge song. I also love the darkness of Show Me A Sign. It reminds me of Black Sabbath's Black Sabbath. The darkness is in the music, not necessarily in the lyrics. Very demonic and evil in that sense. The songs after Show Me A Sign are the weakest of that album, but highlights like Coeur d'Alene and Words Darker Than Their Wings keep me interested.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: ariich on June 09, 2014, 01:42:46 PM
I would place ABIII at #3 out of 4, above One Day Remains. It drags a bit and gets a bit samey in terms of style/tone, but there are some really really fantastic songs on it.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: PixelDream on June 09, 2014, 03:21:21 PM
It is the general consensus that ABIII is their weakest album. I agree to an extent, but to me, some of Alter Bridge's best moments shine on that album. The bridge to All Hope Is Gone is beautiful eerie, and epic. That song, and Slip To The Void, is easily a top 5 Alter Bridge song. I also love the darkness of Show Me A Sign. It reminds me of Black Sabbath's Black Sabbath. The darkness is in the music, not necessarily in the lyrics. Very demonic and evil in that sense. The songs after Show Me A Sign are the weakest of that album, but highlights like Coeur d'Alene and Words Darker Than Their Wings keep me interested.

All of those songs are indeed top AB material. They definitely treaded new grounds with those, especially Slip to the Void.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: fadetoblackdude7 on June 09, 2014, 03:57:58 PM
Can't wait to grab the other 3 albums, I've already spun Fortress like crazy....Calm The Fire (dat chorus!!), All Ends Well and the title track are my favs, with Bleed It Dry being an honorable mention.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: Accelerando on June 09, 2014, 09:12:06 PM
Awesome man  :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: sylvan on June 10, 2014, 06:23:53 AM
Where's the love for One Day Remains? The first thing you hear from AB is Find The Real, followed by the title track, which is one of the greatest things they have done. Myles vocals shine above just about anything else he's worked on, and the guitar is undiluted Mark. Say what you will about Myles guitar skill, the music took an undeniable turn after ODR. Don't get me wrong, I love the direction they've gone, but ODR still speaks to me as "We are Alter Bridge and this is what we do!"
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: Mister Gold on June 10, 2014, 06:44:37 AM
I enjoy all of their albums, but Fortress is easily the best thing they've done to date, in my opinion. I haven't been paying attention to the band lately, but have they finally doing a more balanced setlist yet?
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: PixelDream on June 10, 2014, 07:15:03 AM
All I know is that they're playing with a click track nowadays, which results in the songs being played at the right tempos. I've always had that one gripe, and the last time I saw them live they were so much more spot on because of that adjustment!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: mikeyd23 on June 10, 2014, 07:30:47 AM
All I know is that they're playing with a click track nowadays, which results in the songs being played at the right tempos. I've always had that one gripe, and the last time I saw them live they were so much more spot on because of that adjustment!

Yep! That simple adjustment in their live shows has helped SO much!

I enjoy all of their albums, but Fortress is easily the best thing they've done to date, in my opinion. I haven't been paying attention to the band lately, but have they finally doing a more balanced setlist yet?

It been better, but still not great IMO.  They have been playing Addicted to Pain, Cry of Achilles, and Waters Rising pretty consistently. They often throw in Farther Than the Sun too it seems and they have been playing the title track a little more recently, which is definitely a good thing! But there are still several great songs off of Fortress that they have only played a couple of times live; Bleed It Dry and Lover are two that come to mind off the top of my head. Not to mention several great tracks they still haven't played live like All Ends Well and Peace is Broken.  I think the sets have been getting better, but they still seem to be a little heavy on the Blackbird era songs. I would like to see them really emphasize the Fortress songs since they are out in support of that album.

Where's the love for One Day Remains? The first thing you hear from AB is Find The Real, followed by the title track, which is one of the greatest things they have done. Myles vocals shine above just about anything else he's worked on, and the guitar is undiluted Mark. Say what you will about Myles guitar skill, the music took an undeniable turn after ODR. Don't get me wrong, I love the direction they've gone, but ODR still speaks to me as "We are Alter Bridge and this is what we do!"

Don't get me wrong I love Once Day Remains, I just feel like they progressed and evolved from that point on and I tend to prefer that sound with Myles fully integrated into the writing.  Find the Real, Burn it Down, Metalingus, etc.. remain some of my favorite AB tunes to this day.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: ninja1125 on June 10, 2014, 08:07:34 AM
For me...

Fortress

Blackbird




ABIII

Once Day Remains

Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: Anguyen92 on June 10, 2014, 10:39:59 AM
I enjoy all of their albums, but Fortress is easily the best thing they've done to date, in my opinion. I haven't been paying attention to the band lately, but have they finally doing a more balanced setlist yet?

It's getting there.

Addicted to Pain
Come to Life
Before Tomorrow Comes
Bleed It Dry
Cry of Achilles
Brand New Start
Ghost of Days Gone By
Fortress
Isolation
Ties That Bind
Waters Rising
Broken Wings
Metalingus
Blackbird
Open Your Eyes

Encore:
Find the Real
Rise Today

http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/alter-bridge/2014/arvest-bank-theatre-at-the-midland-kansas-city-mo-5bc323d8.html

That's what they were playing, roughly, during their last week of headlining shows in the States.

Addicted to Pain
White Knuckles
Find the Real
Farther Than the Sun
Come to Life
Cry of Achilles
Fortress
Ghost of Days Gone By
Ties That Bind
Metalingus
Blackbird
(Blackbird by The Beatles intro)
Rise Today
Isolation

http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/alter-bridge/2014/arena-joe-strummer-bologna-italy-3c0d56b.html

That's what they played at a festival in Italy supporting Iron Maiden.  I hope that setlist with Waters Rising replacing Farther Than the Sun makes it to their big UK set at the Download Festival.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: fadetoblackdude7 on June 10, 2014, 04:11:25 PM
That's pretty much what they played in Chicago a couple months ago, only they opened with Slip To The Void and there was a Myles/Mark solo duel in the encore.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: Accelerando on June 10, 2014, 07:35:31 PM
They played a pretty awesome set for  Rock AM Ring* (thanks Anguyen) yesterday. You see the show here. I'm not sure if it's the full show because this video starts with White Knuckles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKMosY2dBj4

White Knuckles
Come To Life
Cry Of Achilles
Ties That Bind
Waters Rising
Metalingus
Blackbird
Rise Today
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: Anguyen92 on June 10, 2014, 08:37:17 PM
The show was called Rock AM Ring.  Rock on the Range was last month.  I was pretty miffed that the hosts was talking, before the live stream began, while the band was playing Addicted to Pain.  That event was similar to when the hosts was talking while they were playing Slip to the Void back in 2011.  In fact, I believe they acknowledged that this year before the live stream to AB's set began yet they still were talking while Addicted to Pain was playing.  I wanted to slap those hosts so badly that day.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: mikeyd23 on June 11, 2014, 07:36:22 AM
If they did start that set off with Addicted to Pain, that's a pretty rocking festival set! Lots of great tunes jammed into a short amount of time!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: Accelerando on June 11, 2014, 03:20:12 PM
The show was called Rock AM Ring.  Rock on the Range was last month.  I was pretty miffed that the hosts was talking, before the live stream began, while the band was playing Addicted to Pain.  That event was similar to when the hosts was talking while they were playing Slip to the Void back in 2011.  In fact, I believe they acknowledged that this year before the live stream to AB's set began yet they still were talking while Addicted to Pain was playing.  I wanted to slap those hosts so badly that day.

Whoops! I fix'd it
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: RuRoRul on June 11, 2014, 03:32:49 PM
Blackbird
Fortress
AB III
One Day Remains

On the subject or album rankings. Think everyone already said which one would be best to go to first out of the first three. Once you go Blackbird you never go back.

Nothing wrong with AB III either.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: Anguyen92 on June 22, 2014, 03:30:35 PM
We have a winner for the Lover music video contest!!!

(http://i.imgur.com/ZiGg6rR.png)

http://genero.tv/watch-video/38277

There's also 16 video for the Cry of Achilles contest.

http://genero.tv/cryofachilles/videos
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: fadetoblackdude7 on June 27, 2014, 10:59:23 AM
One Day Remains: Pretty strong debut, love Open Your Eyes, Metalingus, and Broken Wings. Good production and all around a good album.

Blackbird: GREAT album, definitely where they really found their identity if you ask me. Great songwriting and I find myself singing the songs to myself at work all the time lol. First 3 songs are standouts and yes, the title track is an absolute masterpiece.

AB III: Haven't listened to this one as much, maybe because it hasn't 'clicked' yet. However, I do love Slip To The Void, Ghost Of Days Gone By and Wonderful Life.

None of them have topped Fortress for me though. But they're all good

Fortress
Blackbird
One Day Remains
AB III
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: Accelerando on June 27, 2014, 10:23:47 PM
I think One Day Remains has the best production quality. I can actually hear Brian's bass playing clearly. Of course that is the only album that wasn't produced by Elvis Baskett
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: Anguyen92 on June 28, 2014, 02:21:14 PM
Well, I watched a live stream of AB from the Graspop festival.  This is the last show of this festival leg, and, while it's pretty much unknown on what's going to happen to them for here on out, I think the set was better than the Rock AM Ring set.  One thing, I heard Addicted to Pain (something that did not happen in Rock AM Ring due to hosts talking) and Isolation.  I think they sounded a bit better as well.  Good way to end this Europe leg.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: Anguyen92 on June 30, 2014, 04:22:54 PM
The full concert video from the Graspop Festival is out.  I wonder how the user did it?  I was trying all day, yesterday, to download that thing from the source of the stream. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY2iougDkFE

The setlist.

Addicted to Pain
White Knuckles
Come to Life
Cry of Achilles
Waters Rising
Ties That Bind
Metalingus
Blackbird
Rise Today
Isolation

Nothing too out of the ordinary.  Almost the same set as Rock AM Ring, but two additional songs were shown (Addicted to Pain and Isolation).
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: wolfking on July 01, 2014, 06:27:27 AM
I don't know why they keep playing Metalingus.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: mikeyd23 on July 01, 2014, 07:41:37 AM
I don't know why they keep playing Metalingus.

Its a pretty good live song, especially in person. Every time I've seen them live its a highlight of the show, just a fun, heavy song.

The full concert video from the Graspop Festival is out.  I wonder how the user did it?  I was trying all day, yesterday, to download that thing from the source of the stream. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY2iougDkFE

Thanks for the link! Mark's tone seems a bit wimpy here, but that might just be the way this festival processed his amps for the stream.  His tone in person is huge sounding.  Mark sounds fantastic on Waters Rising though, killer vocals.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan
Post by: Accelerando on July 07, 2014, 01:53:10 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/zReLrhU.png)


 :tdwn
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: wolfking on July 07, 2014, 05:42:38 AM
Heh, it's Luna Park all over again.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: Anguyen92 on July 07, 2014, 10:40:56 AM
I don't know how to explain this one.  I've tried to justify DC3's actions and I don't know.  I hear word that the band wants to have more extras and bonus footage.  Also, I hear word that they made a deal with Palladia to show the show on the channel which means that the DVD gets delayed 3-6 months after the showing.  Other than that, I don't know.  It's the easiest "Shut up, and take my money" deal ever for me and, uhhhhh, yeah.  We'll see what happens.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: PixelDream on July 07, 2014, 10:51:11 AM
I hope they keep playing Before Tomorrow Comes, preferably in the middle of the set: acts as a nice restroom break.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: Mister Gold on July 07, 2014, 11:12:02 AM
I hope they keep playing Before Tomorrow Comes, preferably in the middle of the set: acts as a nice restroom break.

On the contrary, I'd love for them to kick that song the hell out of the setlist and put in something from Fortress, AB III or One Day Remains in its place.

I love the band and their music, but by God, their love affair with Blackbird in the setlist pisses me off.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: ninja1125 on July 07, 2014, 11:15:19 AM
Heh, it's Luna Park all over again.  :lol
Unfortunately
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: mikeyd23 on July 07, 2014, 02:16:40 PM
Ah man, this whole Live in Milan being delayed thing is all to familiar for AB. Such a shame... Great band but this kind of stuff really takes away from what they could become. 

... It's the easiest "Shut up, and take my money" deal ever for me and, uhhhhh, yeah.  We'll see what happens.

Agreed, just get the darn thing released and its an instant buy for me... They just have to release it first,  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: Accelerando on July 07, 2014, 04:00:16 PM
I don't know how to explain this one.  I've tried to justify DC3's actions and I don't know.  I hear word that the band wants to have more extras and bonus footage.  Also, I hear word that they made a deal with Palladia to show the show on the channel which means that the DVD gets delayed 3-6 months after the showing.  Other than that, I don't know.  It's the easiest "Shut up, and take my money" deal ever for me and, uhhhhh, yeah.  We'll see what happens.

 I'm starting to think the band needs to start looking at another production company other than DC3 for their future live releases. Daniel Catullo is just unreliable at this point. He hooks us with the release date, and then guts us with these delays. I'm sure not all of it is at the fault of DC3...im sure there are rights to the use of songs that are out of their hands (fuck you Wind Up). However, Live From Amsterdam was a hot mess. A promised release of the 3D Blu Ray of Wembley never happened, despite it is in the recent Alter Bridge X collection....and now this? As a fan it just makes me aggravated I have to keep waiting more time to buy the damn thing.


I hope they keep playing Before Tomorrow Comes, preferably in the middle of the set: acts as a nice restroom break.

On the contrary, I'd love for them to kick that song the hell out of the setlist and put in something from Fortress, AB III or One Day Remains in its place.

I love the band and their music, but by God, their love affair with Blackbird in the setlist pisses me off.

They hardly touched anything from ABIII  in their current tour, have they? There are some incredible live songs on that album, like All Hope Is Gone
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: Anguyen92 on July 07, 2014, 04:12:01 PM
They only did 3 songs from ABIII in the current tour and now it's down to two with the occasional omission of Slip to the Void (which sucks that it got taken out).  It's also a bloody shame that they never played Fallout live since I think it would have made a nice live track (I heard these guys strum it acoustically in a few video outlets, it must be played dang it!).

As for the production company issues, as it pains me to say this as a huge fan of Live From Amsterdam, I think it's gotta to be time to move on from DC3 and this is not totally their fault.  There has been too many setbacks without good responses and yeah.  I heard from the ABNation forums that some posters wants Fret12 to be the new production company for AB.   I heard good words about the Sound and the Story Fortress DVD on how its filmed and that it was delivered in a timely manner so that could be an option.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: mikeyd23 on July 08, 2014, 06:27:04 AM
Yeah Fret12 seems like they typically have their act together and would be a good choice for AB over DC3.  Like you said Anguyen, it really is the lack of proper communication with customers and potential future customers that is the issue currently.

Delays with products happen, I totally get that.  But communicating those delays to your customers in a professional manner would go a long way.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: Anguyen92 on July 14, 2014, 10:36:19 AM
In these darker times, I'm just glad that these guys announced a fall US tour!!!

10/4 — Louisville, Ky. — Louder Than Life Festival
10/7 — Bethlehem, Pa. — Sands Bethlehem Event Center
10/9 — Worcester, Mass. — The Palladium
10/10 — Sayreville, N.J. — Starland Ballroom
10/12 — Huntington, N.Y. — The Paramount
10/13 — Lancaster, Pa. — Freedom Hall / Lancaster County Convention Center
10/15 — Northfield, Ohio — Hard Rock Live
10/16 — St. Louis, Mo. — The Pageant
10/20 — Denver, Colo. — Paramount Theatre
10/22 — Seattle, Wash. — Showbox SODO
10/23 — Spokane, Wash. — Knitting Factory
10/25 — San Francisco, Calif. — Warfield
10/26 — Los Angeles, Calif. — Wiltern

http://loudwire.com/alter-bridge-fall-2014-u-s-tour-dates/

Their LA show is at the Wiltern.  Cool.  I will do my best to be there.  I won't let that being on a Sunday affect me and all.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: Anguyen92 on July 17, 2014, 04:43:21 PM
All right, got the tickets.  Now I am really pumped for it.  Seeing them with California Breed as the opener.  Such a good bill.  Should make a great night.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: Accelerando on July 17, 2014, 05:03:51 PM
Anguyen! I am most likely going to that show as well
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: JayOctavarium on July 28, 2014, 09:31:28 AM
In these darker times, I'm just glad that these guys announced a fall US tour!!!

10/4 — Louisville, Ky. — Louder Than Life Festival
10/7 — Bethlehem, Pa. — Sands Bethlehem Event Center
10/9 — Worcester, Mass. — The Palladium
10/10 — Sayreville, N.J. — Starland Ballroom
10/12 — Huntington, N.Y. — The Paramount
10/13 — Lancaster, Pa. — Freedom Hall / Lancaster County Convention Center
10/15 — Northfield, Ohio — Hard Rock Live
10/16 — St. Louis, Mo. — The Pageant
10/20 — Denver, Colo. — Paramount Theatre
10/22 — Seattle, Wash. — Showbox SODO
10/23 — Spokane, Wash. — Knitting Factory
10/25 — San Francisco, Calif. — Warfield
10/26 — Los Angeles, Calif. — Wiltern

http://loudwire.com/alter-bridge-fall-2014-u-s-tour-dates/

Their LA show is at the Wiltern.  Cool.  I will do my best to be there.  I won't let that being on a Sunday affect me and all.


OMG
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: mikeyd23 on July 28, 2014, 02:18:17 PM
Man I wish they were coming to Pittsburgh on this tour, dying to see them! Maybe I'll look into making the road trip to Ohio...
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: Mister Gold on July 28, 2014, 02:20:50 PM
Man I wish they were coming to Pittsburgh on this tour, dying to see them! Maybe I'll look into making the road trip to Ohio...

I really wish they were coming to North Carolina. :-[
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: Accelerando on July 28, 2014, 03:06:54 PM
I see they are still ignoring their home state of Florida  :lol Good thing I moved to Cali and I'll be able to see their show in L.A.!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: Anguyen92 on July 28, 2014, 03:07:26 PM
There was also one more date that they announced the Monday later.

(http://i.imgur.com/Z6297V1.png)
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: Xenon on August 25, 2014, 12:52:48 PM
Thanks to fortress i'm starting to get into this band. What an amazing album.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: fadetoblackdude7 on August 25, 2014, 04:45:44 PM
Welcome, welcome.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: Accelerando on August 25, 2014, 11:27:29 PM
Thanks to fortress i'm starting to get into this band. What an amazing album.

Enjoy the journey, my friend  :metal

Have you heard of any of their stuff prior to Fortress?
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: mikeyd23 on August 26, 2014, 06:54:02 AM
If you haven't heard anything prior to Fortress, its a great place to start! I would then recommend taking a listen to Blackbird (album) next.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: Anguyen92 on October 05, 2014, 09:18:00 PM
Well, three weeks from today I shall see them live for the first time ever along with California Breed and Like A Storm in LA.

I've been preparing for this concert for a while now, listening to all of the stuff from Like a Storm and California Breed and next week begins listening to everything AB has released (All four albums, and both their live DVDs).  I'm so excited!!!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: Xenon on October 05, 2014, 09:37:14 PM
If you haven't heard anything prior to Fortress, its a great place to start! I would then recommend taking a listen to Blackbird (album) next.
I have heard Blackbird. Love a lot of songs in there, but I have a major problem with most southern-rock sounding songs in Alter Bridge's discography  :lol
I like the more metal side of this band, but still the softer side is good as long is not what i've described before.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: Anguyen92 on October 23, 2014, 07:50:05 PM
Bumping, bumping, bumping.  So with Glenn Hughes and California Breed being the main supporting band for AB during this fall US tour, AB just now decided to do this.  They played Deep Purple's Highway Star (a cover that they hadn't played in probably nine years or so) with Glenn Hughes and I think the result is pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW5nILGTte4

I'm so excited.  Only three more days until the show in LA.  Having something like this would be a good addition to the show.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: Accelerando on October 26, 2014, 04:37:53 PM
Enjoy the concert man. I wish I had enough money to go! Im jealous
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: mikeyd23 on October 27, 2014, 09:10:50 AM
Bumping, bumping, bumping.  So with Glenn Hughes and California Breed being the main supporting band for AB during this fall US tour, AB just now decided to do this.  They played Deep Purple's Highway Star (a cover that they hadn't played in probably nine years or so) with Glenn Hughes and I think the result is pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW5nILGTte4

I'm so excited.  Only three more days until the show in LA.  Having something like this would be a good addition to the show.

That was nice, thanks for posting the video! Always good to see AB stretch themselves and mix up their sets a little.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: Anguyen92 on October 27, 2014, 01:35:55 PM
Well, the show was really good.  Everyone was playing all the songs to the beat, sounded really clearly (and very loud), without any botches, and they executed it so well.  The crowd was pretty good. I think it was probably on par with the crowd of the BTFW on Boston, maybe a tad more energetic (then again, I had the in person pov which is different than watching a crowd on a tv.)

Happy that I went and would love to see them again.  Hopefully, the wait is decent enough for my ears to regain some power.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: Accelerando on October 27, 2014, 01:55:48 PM
Good to hear! I've been to four Alter Bridge shows, and I think my favorite one was Jannus Landing in St. Petersburg, FL, 2008. Super small outside venue. It was August in Florida so it was humid as all hell but I think the band embraced it, and they were on top of their game. That was the first I heard them play Blackbird live....ah, it was so good!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: Anguyen92 on November 28, 2014, 01:08:50 PM
Eeeeeeee.  I just purchased and downloaded the Story version of the "Fortress - The Sound & The Story DVD."  Cheap Download as well.  $5 and 44 min. of content.  I paid $11 for the new Foo Fighters album and got only like 42 min. of stuff.  The Sound and the Story bundle with the 12 guitar lessons going over all of the Fortress songs are like about $20, I think.

https://fret12.com/fortress

I can't wait to watch this.  This is a very lovely compensation to have if we're not going to get that Milan DVD anytime soon.  Hopefully, there's a great amount of good tidbits that I did not already know over the creation process of this awesome album.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: wolfking on November 28, 2014, 03:53:00 PM
The content in that sound and story download is pretty good for the price.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: Accelerando on February 23, 2015, 02:58:34 PM
One Day Remains. Now that's a fuckin' rock song. Revisiting that album today
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: LudwigVan on April 03, 2015, 02:14:57 PM
This is extremely difficult because they're all so good. But here goes nothin':

Blackbird
ABIII
One Day Remains
Fortress

Looking forward to a new album already lol.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: sylvan on April 03, 2015, 03:22:57 PM
This is extremely difficult because they're all so good. But here goes nothin':

Blackbird
ABIII
One Day Remains
Fortress

Looking forward to a new album already lol.

Wow. There's times when I forget AB III even exists.

Ranking of personal liking:
One Day Remains
Fortress
Blackbird


AB III

Ranking IMO quality:
Fortress
One Day Remains
Blackbird


AB III
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: PixelDream on April 03, 2015, 06:59:21 PM
This is a difficult one. I can't really say one album is better than the others.

One Day Remains - I love the more natural sounding production (compared to latter albums). All around just a really solid heavy rock album. I can't say it suffers from 'first album syndrome' like some say about this album (Myles was still new etc.). This album is as much Alter Bridge as the other ones.

Blackbird - To me, it features their greatest song - and one of my favorite songs ever - 'Blackbird'. The first few tracks are amazing, but there's also some tracks that I feel are not really that special. I never, ever have the desire to listen to 'Buried Alive', 'Coming Home' or 'Before Tomorrow Comes' again, even though I liked them in the beginning.

ABIII - I really love the newfound darkness on this album. Its heaviness is addictive. 'Slip to the Void' is monumental, one of their very best. The album feels a bit too long and can get kinda samey. 'Make It Right' feels like a throwaway to me.

Fortress - 'Cry of Achilles' and 'Fortress' are again two tracks that can be added to the hall of fame. Together with ODR, one of the most consistent albums they've released. I only dislike 'Cry me a River', but all the other tracks have staying power.

So in terms of consistency:

Fortress
One Day Remains
Blackbird
ABIII

But in terms of individual song strengths and personal attachment:

Blackbird
Fortress
ABIII
One Day Remains



Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: Mister Gold on April 04, 2015, 01:14:35 PM
I dunno... I love Blackbird (the song), but there are other AB songs that I rank with the same prestige. Cry of Achilles, Fortress, Lover, Calm the Fire and Words Darker Than Their Wings all come to mind.

My favorite is probably Cry of Achilles, though that admittedly has some personal ties to my heart. I listened to that song countless times over and over the morning after the album first dropped, using the chorus as a means to cope with waking up to the news that morning that my little sister had been hospitalized from a seizure half-a-country away. It was eerie stuff.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: Accelerando on April 05, 2015, 02:09:25 AM
I've always said this about AB III, but, if they had cut that album down to about 10 songs, it would've been incredible. Some of the best musical moments in Alter Bridge's catalogue are on that album, from the vocal harmony Slip To The Void, the groove in the riff of Isolation, to the bridge and solo on All Hope Is Gone. The first 5 songs on that album are incredible pieces of rock n roll.

1. Slip To The Void
2. Isolation
3. Ghosts of Days Gone By
4. All Hope Is Gone
5. Still Remains
6. Wonderful Life
7. I Know It Hurts
8. Show Me A Sign
9. Coeur D'Alene
10. Words Darker Than Their Wings

Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: fadetoblackdude7 on April 05, 2015, 10:14:33 AM
I've always said this about AB III, but, if they had cut that album down to about 10 songs, it would've been incredible. Some of the best musical moments in Alter Bridge's catalogue are on that album, from the vocal harmony Slip To The Void, the groove in the riff of Isolation, to the bridge and solo on All Hope Is Gone. The first 5 songs on that album are incredible pieces of rock n roll.

1. Slip To The Void
2. Isolation
3. Ghosts of Days Gone By
4. All Hope Is Gone
5. Still Remains
6. Wonderful Life
7. I Know It Hurts
8. Show Me A Sign
9. Coeur D'Alene
10. Words Darker Than Their Wings

I would've put Life Must Go On in there instead of Coeur D'Alene. Great song!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: Anguyen92 on April 05, 2015, 10:27:43 AM
The thing about the whole cutting songs from ABIII is that we would have never heard the songs we may think are favorites of the album or we would have thought that the songs, that made it as the B-sides, should have been on the main release (AB does have a good track record of B-sides songs).  I mean, Accelerando, that list you got there is a mighty fine 10 songs where the album could have gotten better praise if that was the official release. 

I can understand songs like Make It Right and Breathe Again probably had some good ideas that may have worked, but did not fulfill the certain realistic standards we hold the band.  That said, I love Life Must Go On as well and the lyrics telling us to keep pushing forward in life and I've always pegged Fallout in my absolute fave five songs of the album.  There's just a certain twang? in the sound of Fallout that just made it work so well.  I still wished they played it live at some point.  It could have gone over well with the crowd.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: wolfking on April 06, 2015, 04:33:29 PM
Fortress
Blackbird
One Day Remains
AB III

AB III is still a really great record, but the others are better.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: JayOctavarium on April 10, 2015, 10:08:34 AM
Blackbird

One Day Remains
Fortress


ABIII
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: ZKX-2099 on April 10, 2015, 11:35:37 AM
Each AB album is better than the one released before it.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: LudwigVan on April 10, 2015, 10:48:27 PM
I don't know if each album got better, but I'd venture to say that each Alter Bridge album got more progressive than the previous release. And in general, I'd say that's a good thing.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: LCArenas on April 10, 2015, 11:27:08 PM
1. Blackbird
2. Fortress
3. ODR



4. AB III

I also think the gap between those three is almost nonexistant. It was really hard to choose which one I like more.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: PixelDream on April 11, 2015, 07:15:10 AM
Fortress is still really great. I hadn't heard it for a couple of months and it's great to reconnect again. Also, I really love 'A New Way to Live', their best bonus track in my opinion.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: JayOctavarium on April 11, 2015, 09:41:32 AM
I don't know if each album got better, but I'd venture to say that each Alter Bridge album got more progressive than the previous release. And in general, I'd say that's a good thing.


I agree
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: Nel on April 18, 2015, 10:31:49 PM
Been going through the discography randomly today, and while AB III isn't my favorite album by them, the song "Home" is definitely on of my favorite AB tunes. Hard to believe a song that good was relegated to bonus track status.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: Sacul on April 18, 2015, 11:33:39 PM
Not to mention how amazing the Blackbird bonus songs are :hefdaddy
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: hefdaddy42 on June 24, 2015, 02:12:42 PM
I have been going back through the discography again lately.  I would just like to say that Cry of Achilles kicked my ass today.   :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: OsMosis2259 on June 25, 2015, 07:24:58 AM
I have been going back through the discography again lately.  I would just like to say that Cry of Achilles kicked my ass today.   :metal

Definitely one of their best tunes  :metal
It's up there with Blackbird IMO.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: Accelerando on June 25, 2015, 10:07:35 PM
Completely agreed. Both are such great epic tunes  :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: RuRoRul on June 26, 2015, 04:07:29 AM
Yep, Blackbird and Cry Of Achilles would probably now be my Alter Bridge #1 and #2 respectively, and Cry Of Achilles would be my go to song to show off the band to someone (unless they weren't big rock / metal fans).
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: PixelDream on June 26, 2015, 05:28:41 AM
My top 5 looks like this:

1. Blackbird
2. Slip to the Void
3. Fortress
4. Cry of Achilles
5. Brand New Start

Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: OsMosis2259 on June 26, 2015, 09:13:15 AM
Nice list.

I'll go with:
1. Blackbird
2. Cry of Achilles
3. Ties That Bind
4. Bleed it Dry
5. Come to Life

Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: RuRoRul on June 26, 2015, 10:52:41 AM
1. Blackbird
2. Cry Of Achlilles
3. Fortress
4. Slip To The Void
5. Ties That Bind
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Post by: fadetoblackdude7 on June 26, 2015, 11:33:04 AM
1. Fortress
2. Cry Of Achilles
3. Blackbird
4. Bleed It Dry
5. Come To Life

Honorable Mention: Slip To The Void
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: sylvan on June 26, 2015, 02:04:54 PM
1. Bleed It Dry
2. Blackbird
3. One Day Remains
4. The End Is Here
5. Fortress/Cry of Achilles
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: Accelerando on June 27, 2015, 10:10:58 PM
1. Blackbird
2. Cry of Achilles
3. Fortress
4. Come To Life
5. Burn It Down
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: sylvan on June 28, 2015, 06:01:58 AM
1. Blackbird
2. Cry of Achilles
3. Fortress
4. Come To Life
5. Burn It Down

Notice how we're the only ones so far to list anything from ODR? You can tell when people got on bored the AB train. I swapped out Burn It Down for Fortress/Achilles.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: RuRoRul on June 28, 2015, 06:33:21 AM
1. Blackbird
2. Cry of Achilles
3. Fortress
4. Come To Life
5. Burn It Down

Notice how we're the only ones so far to list anything from ODR? You can tell when people got on bored the AB train. I swapped out Burn It Down for Fortress/Achilles.
:facepalm: I Was a fan of Alter Bridge from the beginning, Creed was one of my favoiuritre bands in the early 2000s. Good as it is One Day Remains is it just doesn't have an individual song that cracks the top 5, though The End Is Here is close.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: Anguyen92 on June 28, 2015, 10:47:15 AM
1. Blackbird
2. Fortress
3. Wayward One
4. Fallout
5. Open Your Eyes

Naturally, there could have been a lot of substitutes on this list.  Even though Open Your Eyes was not really as heavy or pseudo-prog-like as the later tracks  (heck, I think it got compared to Higher, one of the most overplayed and, sometimes, maligned tracks amongst rock music, in the early days.), Open Your Eyes was the song that started it all for me which that thought can be the same for some AB fans.  That or Metalingus.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: sylvan on June 29, 2015, 05:51:51 AM
Even though Open Your Eyes was not really as heavy or pseudo-prog-like as the later tracks  (heck, I think it got compared to Higher, one of the most overplayed and, sometimes, maligned tracks amongst rock music, in the early days.), Open Your Eyes was the song that started it all for me which that thought can be the same for some AB fans.  That or Metalingus.

I was discussing this recently with a friend. When OYE plays, it brings me back to the first moment I heard AB make a sound. I always thought it was cool that anyone who hadn't heard OYE could put in ODR and have Find The Real be your first AB experience. But ,for those of us around from day 1 with the AOL or Yahoo premier (whatever it was). Two great ways to fall in love with AB. ODR Remains stands alone in their catalogue, for good or bad.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: wolfking on June 29, 2015, 06:27:02 AM
Top 5, that's damn hard;

1. Come To Life
2. Cry of Archilles
3. Fortress
4. Open Your Eyes
5. Coming Home
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: ariich on June 29, 2015, 07:08:00 AM
1. Blackbird
2. Calm The Fire
3. Bleed It Dry
4. Wayward One
5. Cry of Achilles

Guess which are my two favourite AB albums. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: JayOctavarium on June 29, 2015, 07:48:57 AM
Can't rate.


All do good.


But Blackbird is best them.


Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: OsMosis2259 on June 29, 2015, 08:03:02 AM
The End Is Here is soooo good!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: sylvan on June 29, 2015, 09:53:12 AM
The End Is Here is soooo good!

And is sooooo good live. I've seen it live  twice, I believe. That tone that Mark gets in the break down riffs is just amazing. I sometimes wish he'd go back to that tone and lose some of the compressed, "pinched" sound he's moved into.

I was recently listening to ODR after a lot of Fortress time. Even though I was in love with Myles from note one, he is just so much better now it's hard to believe. If Myles re-recorded his vocal tracks for ODR and they put that on the original tracks, it would be f'n incredible beyond comprehension. And imagine if they changed the dynamic of the original songs by adding Myles on guitar. The fan boy in my head is rocking out hard to some imaginary potential pure awesomeness.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: JayOctavarium on June 29, 2015, 10:32:05 AM
I know I did an album ranking a bit ago but here's another one based on how I feel right this second.

Blackbird

Fortress
ODR





ABIII
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: wolfking on June 29, 2015, 06:38:21 PM
I'm not sure if I could split Fortress or Blackbird.  Probably Fortress though, but it's a roll of the dice.

Fortress
Blackbird
ODR
AB3
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: Mister Gold on June 29, 2015, 06:40:17 PM
Fortress is easily my favorite. :tup
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: wolfking on June 29, 2015, 06:55:46 PM
The quality of Fortress, it's going to be interesting what they follow it up with.  It's going to be hard to top it, even dare I say impossible?
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: TAC on June 29, 2015, 06:59:20 PM
You like Alter Bridge too, Wolfie?
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: wolfking on June 29, 2015, 07:13:29 PM
You like Alter Bridge too, Wolfie?

Been a fan since the beginning of the band, love them.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: OsMosis2259 on June 29, 2015, 08:19:40 PM
Fortress is definitely their most consistent from start to finish  :tup
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: Basekick on July 03, 2015, 10:11:22 AM
Top 5 AB songs for me are...

1. Blackbird
2. Cry of Achilles
3. All Hope Is Gone
4. Find The Real
5. Isolation/Bleed It Dry
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: mikeyd23 on July 08, 2015, 07:04:24 AM
Top 5 songs is soooo hard. I'd say:

1. Blackbird
2. Cry of Achilles
3. Fortress
4. Find the Real
5. Slip to the Void

That might change tomorrow though, there are so many good songs from these guys.

Album ranking is a lot easier for me:

1. Blackbird
2. Fortress

3. ODR



4. ABIII
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: LudwigVan on July 19, 2015, 12:09:18 AM
Don't understand why ABIII consistently gets ranked at the bottom. So much goodness on that album.  That said, I have difficulty ranking their albums at all (even though I did it on a previous post).
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: Accelerando on July 19, 2015, 01:56:32 AM
I've always thought some of Alter Bridge's best musical moments are in ABIII. However I think there are flow issues as a whole album. It's not a terrible album whatsoever, but I don't think it's their best.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: sylvan on July 19, 2015, 06:17:38 AM
There are great moments on AB3. It's still the same awesome guys writing music. Is it gonna be bad? F NO! But, that doesn't mean it can't be a disappointment. In fact, the great moments are what make it disappointing. Because it becomes evident that there were great ideas that did not get the time they deserved to evolve into complete tracks, and essentially a complete album. Great ideas, rushed execution, not their best production (thanks Elvis), and the weakest solos of all their albums.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: Accelerando on November 23, 2015, 03:23:52 PM
BUMP

Nothing that has to do with Alter Bridge, but considering the band's ties with Creed..


Scott Stapp reviews the movie "Creed"  :lol

http://FunnyOrDie.com/m/a3jv


Glad to see this guy is doing well after his major public meltdown
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: Accelerando on November 23, 2015, 03:26:45 PM
BTW Still don't have Live In Milan  :-\
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: Train of Naught on November 23, 2015, 03:41:33 PM
A bit late to the party here:

1. Blackbird
2. Cry of Achilles
3. Come to Life
4. Fortress
5. The End Is Here/Metalingus

Addicted to Pain is really close though and I don't think I've seen that one yet.


Fortress
Blackbird
One Day Remains
AB3
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: Anguyen92 on November 23, 2015, 03:47:26 PM
BTW Still don't have Live In Milan  :-\

I don't think we're getting that DVD any time soon.  I pretty much give up hope in wanting that and opt to move on to getting hyped for the next thing (mainly, Dust, Myles' solo album, and, most importantly, AB V). 

I just hope in the events that they do another DVD, they do not work with DC3.  Nothing against DC3 personally, but it's time to move on from them.  The aura seems negative for the time being.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: Anguyen92 on January 07, 2016, 01:36:53 PM
All righty, then.  We are in January, and now things are developing a little more in terms of the creation of AB V.  Soon enough, in like a few weeks, Myles is heading towards Orlando and off to the races we go. 

In addition, Fret12 has got some products/services related towards AB V, including a VIP for Life, one day Studio visit, Listening Party, etc.

https://fret12.com/store/alter-bridge
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: mikeyd23 on January 07, 2016, 01:40:26 PM
All righty, then.  We are in January, and now things are developing a little more in terms of the creation of AB V.  Soon enough, in like a few weeks, Myles is heading towards Orlando and off to the races we go. 

In addition, Fret12 has got some products/services related towards AB V, including a VIP for Life, one day Studio visit, Listening Party, etc.

https://fret12.com/store/alter-bridge

Wait did I miss something or are they posting items that cost thousands of dollars without providing ANY information about the new album? That's kinda weird.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: Train of Naught on January 07, 2016, 01:55:16 PM
Did they take some of these things directly from the Tremonti project or did they already have things like "your name in the liner notes" and stuff?

Anyway, I'd personally never lay down so much money, there's not a band in the world I love THAT much, and I love AB quite a bit. (besides, $2500 for VIP for life is 10 months of part-time jobbing for me)
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: mikeyd23 on January 07, 2016, 01:57:35 PM
Did they take some of these things directly from the Tremonti project or did they already have things like "your name in the liner notes" and stuff?

Anyway, I'd personally never lay down so much money, there's not a band in the world I love THAT much, and I love AB quite a bit. (besides, $2500 for VIP for life is 10 months of part-time jobbing for me)

Haha, honestly they don't tour the US enough to consider the VIP for life thing, regardless of cost.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: Anguyen92 on January 07, 2016, 02:07:49 PM
Did they take some of these things directly from the Tremonti project or did they already have things like "your name in the liner notes" and stuff?

Anyway, I'd personally never lay down so much money, there's not a band in the world I love THAT much, and I love AB quite a bit. (besides, $2500 for VIP for life is 10 months of part-time jobbing for me)

Maybe Fret12 thought that they had a decent amount of success of these things from the Tremonti project, that with AB having a larger fanbase, they decided to try it here.  And yeah, to me, I wouldn't buy the VIP for Life as Mikey stated, they do not tour the US enough to justify it.  That's only 50 available though so they are not shooting too high. 

I'm sure there are super die-hard fans in Europe that may want to do buy something like this.  See a show in like Germany and England without having the struggle of waiting to buy a ticket.  Something like that may interest someone out there.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. AB V!!!
Post by: Accelerando on January 07, 2016, 11:22:48 PM
I hope Fret 12 produces the music videos and live concert videos. Time to step away from DC3, and onward to better things!
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. AB V!!!
Post by: mikeyd23 on January 08, 2016, 07:02:28 AM
I hope Fret 12 produces the music videos and live concert videos. Time to step away from DC3, and onward to better things!

Yeah anyone besides DC3 would be a positive step for AB at this point. It's an added bonus that Fret12 seems to be really good.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. AB V!!!
Post by: kaos2900 on January 08, 2016, 07:30:11 AM
As much as I love Alter Bridge, it's going to be really hard for them to top Fortress. Probably my favorite album of the decade. Regardless, I'm sure the new release will be fantastic.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. AB V!!!
Post by: sylvan on January 08, 2016, 07:40:06 AM
All it takes is just a little piece of info and I'm super excited. As long as they take their time and do it right, I'm expecting something impressive. I think it will kinda flow off Fortress, and still have some new ideas.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. AB V!!!
Post by: mikeyd23 on January 08, 2016, 08:12:31 AM
Yeah, I agree Fortress will be hard to top, absolutely amazing album from top to bottom. But, I said the same thing about Blackbird and with Fortress, I'm not sure they topped it but they certainly came really close. I see no reason why these guys can't continue forward with another stellar release. I'm hyped!  :metal
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. AB V!!!
Post by: TheLordOfTheStrings on January 08, 2016, 03:26:31 PM
I like that they took a more progressive approach with Fortress, but it's still my least favorite of their albums. That being said, every time I listen to it I'm reminded that every song is fantastic, but the same happens with AB III, Blackbird, and One Day Remains, so...
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. Live In Milan (Still don't have it)
Post by: goo-goo on January 08, 2016, 03:43:52 PM
Did they take some of these things directly from the Tremonti project or did they already have things like "your name in the liner notes" and stuff?

Anyway, I'd personally never lay down so much money, there's not a band in the world I love THAT much, and I love AB quite a bit. (besides, $2500 for VIP for life is 10 months of part-time jobbing for me)

I would of loved if they would have introduced a Signed CD only feature. I think they did that for the Tremonti release.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. AB V!!!
Post by: ZKX-2099 on January 12, 2016, 09:32:55 AM
1. Fortress
2. AB3
3. Blackbird
4. ODR

Also...

1. Slip To The Void
2. Blackbird
3. Fortress
4. Find The Real
5. Waters Rising
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. AB V!!!
Post by: Train of Naught on January 13, 2016, 02:39:16 AM
Favorite songa do change for me sometimes, though #1 is pretty much set in stone.

1. Fortress
2. Blackbird
3. ODR
4. AB3

1. Blackbird
2. Fortress
3. Broken Wings
4. Cry of Achilles
5. Slip to the Void
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. AB V!!!
Post by: wolfking on January 13, 2016, 03:56:59 AM
I'm gonna put it right out there now.  There is no possible way they can Fortress, no chance.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. AB V!!!
Post by: Bolsters on January 13, 2016, 04:09:36 AM
There is no possible way they can Fortress, no chance.
They don't need to, they have already Fortressed. :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. AB V!!!
Post by: wolfking on January 13, 2016, 04:13:01 AM
Whoops, okay I'll try again.  :facepalm:

There is no possible way AB can top Fortress, no chance.  I'm sure they will produce a brilliant album, but they can't top that album.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. AB V!!!
Post by: Train of Naught on January 13, 2016, 05:21:59 AM
There is no possible way AB can top Fortress, no chance.  I'm sure they will produce a brilliant album, but that can't top that album.

Agreed. Like you implied, this isn't a bad thing, because Fortress is incredible. I've no doubt that it will be a good album.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. AB V!!!
Post by: ZKX-2099 on January 13, 2016, 07:14:24 AM
They probably can't top Fortress. But they can make the new album better... in a different way.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. AB V!!!
Post by: mikeyd23 on January 13, 2016, 08:25:29 AM
They probably can't top Fortress. But they can make the new album better... in a different way.

This. AB has managed to keep a pretty consistent sound throughout their career while still changing it up enough from album to album so that each record has it's own unique identity. The only way AB fails to top Fortress is if AB tries to make another record very similar to Fortress. If they continue to evolve and create an album with its own identity, which they have successfully done several times, they'll be good.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. AB V!!!
Post by: wolfking on January 13, 2016, 09:18:13 PM
I don't think it can really be 'better' and 'different' at the same time.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. AB V!!!
Post by: Anguyen92 on January 14, 2016, 01:15:14 AM
I don't think it can really be 'better' and 'different' at the same time.

I think, at this point, it's pretty damn tough to top the standards that Blackbird and Fortress has set, but still I think they are going to go on and create an album that they are going to really enjoy making, and that their core fanbase will enjoy (not necessarily catering to them though).  I'm sure not going to go into listening the album, thinking/hoping that it will top those two.  That just sets me up for disappointment.  We got to let the album tell what it wants to do and hope it tells it good.

In addition, I kinda want them to do an instrumental as well.  They sure have came a long way from being that band that was commonly called "Creed with another singer" and while they certainly have their own identity with a fanbase that matches that identity (apart from Creed, apart from Slash), I feel that there are still people (a small minority), today, making these comparisons.  I think them doing an instrumental would put these comparisons away once and for all and it's certainly an option for them to take on away from the lyric-writing and the big chorus sing-a-longs and whatnot and do something different from that.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. AB V!!!
Post by: mikeyd23 on January 14, 2016, 07:09:21 AM
I don't think it can really be 'better' and 'different' at the same time.

They couldn't make a record that is really different sounding than Fortress that some fans might consider better? They certainly could, honestly if I had to guess, I don't think it will sound all that different from Fortress and it will be hard to top Fortress. So, I'm not saying it'll happen, but it definitely could.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. AB V!!!
Post by: Accelerando on January 14, 2016, 01:23:34 PM


In addition, I kinda want them to do an instrumental as well.  They sure have came a long way from being that band that was commonly called "Creed with another singer" and while they certainly have their own identity with a fanbase that matches that identity (apart from Creed, apart from Slash), I feel that there are still people (a small minority), today, making these comparisons.  I think them doing an instrumental would put these comparisons away once and for all and it's certainly an option for them to take on away from the lyric-writing and the big chorus sing-a-longs and whatnot and do something different from that.


I've been this way for a long time. In fact, they did a instrumental recorded for Guitar Magazine for Ahavo Rabo Taco Salad I think in between One Day Remains and Blackbird.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nXiI4KcyPk
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. AB V!!!
Post by: Anguyen92 on February 09, 2016, 11:24:07 AM
All right, all right.  So where are they now?  Well, they are at Mark's house sorting out what they want to sort out before heading to the studio. 

On another note, they are going to actually start touring earlier than what they usually do (tour Europe and the UK in the fall) and that is they are going to tour in the US in the summer with Breaking Benjamin and Disturbed.  I do not know what DTF's opinions on those bands are, but at least, AB is on a tour that maybe can get them new fans and build more anticipation for AB V.  It's a good time indeed.  Things are materializing well.

http://loudwire.com/disturbed-breaking-benjamin-2016-tour/
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. AB V!!!
Post by: kaos2900 on February 09, 2016, 11:25:27 AM
All right, all right.  So where are they now?  Well, they are at Mark's house sorting out what they want to sort out before heading to the studio. 

On another note, they are going to actually start touring earlier than what they usually do (tour Europe and the UK in the fall) and that is they are going to tour in the US in the summer with Breaking Benjamin and Disturbed.  I do not know what DTF's opinions on those bands are, but at least, AB is on a tour that maybe can them new fans and build more anticipation for AB V.  It's a good time indeed.  Things are materializing well.

http://loudwire.com/disturbed-breaking-benjamin-2016-tour/

I saw that about the tour and literally laughed out loud. They are going to blow the closers off of the stage.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. AB V!!!
Post by: Train of Naught on February 09, 2016, 01:19:51 PM
Never liked Breaking Benjamin apart from one song (believe it was called Blow Me Away), but Disturbed is great, STILL need to check out Immortalize..

Anyway I doubt I'll be seeing AB live, I'm just not that big on live shows like I used to be and I don't know anyone who loves AB, I know a few casual fans but they wouldn't go to a concert of theirs.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. AB V!!!
Post by: mikeyd23 on February 09, 2016, 01:30:26 PM
I'm pumped they are working on ABV! These guys have literally never let me down!  :tup

As far as the tour...I'm happy to see they are attempting to tour the US a little more extensively but those headliners are rough.

I saw that about the tour and literally laughed out loud. They are going to blow the closers off of the stage.

Exactly this.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. AB V!!!
Post by: Anguyen92 on March 12, 2016, 08:28:33 PM
Well, this is an interesting find.  A contestant from The Voice UK decided to sing Watch Over You.  The end result of that performance?  Well, I'll let you guys be the judge of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M29wM6oRp5E

In other AB news, Flip is done with the drumming.  Brian will start on his bass parts in a few days.  Also, Myles sang Highway to Hell with Steel Panther during one of their shows and Mark saw a Robert Plant concert and met him.  That's basically covers their last week or so.
Title: Re: The Official Alter Bridge Thread v. AB V!!!
Post by: Adami on March 12, 2016, 08:32:50 PM
Well, this is an interesting find.  A contestant from The Voice UK decided to sing Watch Over You.  The end result of that performance?  Well, I'll let you guys be the judge of it.

https://www.y