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Title: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: SilentFox on January 31, 2010, 12:14:41 AM
Who else here is in love with Blind Faith?  This song was really a grower for me, but now it's my favorite on the first disk of SDOIT.  The mysterious ambiance, insane keyboard solo that actually fits into the music well (unlike AROP or ANTR), not to mention crazy but subtle drumming.  JLB is top-notch.  Intro is absolutely majestic.  I can't say enough about how great this song is.  I don't know what DT's history is with playing this live, but they seriously need to bring it back.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: juice on January 31, 2010, 12:30:17 AM
the entire disc 1 album is amazing!  therefore blind faith is great too!
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: sonatafanica on January 31, 2010, 12:38:52 AM
I've seen it live, and it's simply an awesome tune. Love it.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: AwakeFromOctavarium on January 31, 2010, 12:46:05 AM
Another appreciation thread...

My Disc 1 ranks are
1. The Glass Prison
2. Blind Faith
3. The Great Debate
4. Misunderstood
5. Disappear

Blind Faith is pure awesome. I actually noticed some LTE feel in this song. Has really good structure and awesome riffs.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 31, 2010, 12:52:24 AM
My least favourite from the album, although it's still a very good song, just overrated considering what else is on the album. Great solo from JP, especially that first descending run, and great solo work from JR too of course. It overall reminds me a lot of LTL, mostly in structure. (Am I the only one reminded of LtL with the piano break and instrumental section?)

I guess my only real criticism of the song is that it doesn't feel as well defined as the other songs on the album. It lacks a bit of the character the other songs achieve so perfectly, but again I'm speaking in relative terms rather than absolute.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: yeshaberto on January 31, 2010, 01:07:02 AM
such a catchy chorus, I love it
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: RandalGraves on January 31, 2010, 01:20:24 AM
This is always a weird song for me because when I think back on it, I think it's pretty great.  Then I listen to it.  It's a good song, no doubts there, but that's about it.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: black_biff_stadler on January 31, 2010, 01:37:09 AM
Another appreciation thread...

My Disc 1 ranks are
1. The Glass Prison
2. Blind Faith
3. The Great Debate
4. Misunderstood
5. Disappear

Blind Faith is pure awesome. I actually noticed some LTE feel in this song. Has really good structure and awesome riffs.

Cool! exact same order for me. The whole solo section is an awesome chapter in the book of how DT can sometimes make an excessive shredfest that even the "analyst" fanboys can't pick apart.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: glaurung on January 31, 2010, 01:49:32 AM
Really good song. One of my favorite DT songs in general.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: SilentFox on January 31, 2010, 02:44:41 AM
My least favourite from the album, although it's still a very good song, just overrated considering what else is on the album. Great solo from JP, especially that first descending run, and great solo work from JR too of course. It overall reminds me a lot of LTL, mostly in structure. (Am I the only one reminded of LtL with the piano break and instrumental section?)

I guess my only real criticism of the song is that it doesn't feel as well defined as the other songs on the album. It lacks a bit of the character the other songs achieve so perfectly, but again I'm speaking in relative terms rather than absolute.

Really? I always observed that the other songs gathered more attention and praise than BF, especially TGP and Disappear.  I'm not saying that it's unreasonable to place BF at the bottom of the list, but to say it's overrated is just not true.  But nice parallel with LtL, with the instrumental sectiona and the developing chorus and whatnot.  My only real complaint about BF would be that it follows the typical Verse-Chorus-Verse-Chorus-Intrumental Break-Chorus format, while LtL is much more innovative in its composition.

I didn't mention it before, but I totally dig JMX in this!  He has some interesting runs.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: tri.ad on January 31, 2010, 02:46:52 AM
My favourite song on SDOIT, and it sits comfortably in my top 10. Great, great song. Also, it contains one of the best keyboard solos by JR.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 31, 2010, 02:56:08 AM
My least favourite from the album, although it's still a very good song, just overrated considering what else is on the album. Great solo from JP, especially that first descending run, and great solo work from JR too of course. It overall reminds me a lot of LTL, mostly in structure. (Am I the only one reminded of LtL with the piano break and instrumental section?)

I guess my only real criticism of the song is that it doesn't feel as well defined as the other songs on the album. It lacks a bit of the character the other songs achieve so perfectly, but again I'm speaking in relative terms rather than absolute.

Really? I always observed that the other songs gathered more attention and praise than BF, especially TGP and Disappear.  I'm not saying that it's unreasonable to place BF at the bottom of the list, but to say it's overrated is just not true.  But nice parallel with LtL, with the instrumental sectiona and the developing chorus and whatnot.  My only real complaint about BF would be that it follows the typical Verse-Chorus-Verse-Chorus-Intrumental Break-Chorus format, while LtL is much more innovative in its composition.

I didn't mention it before, but I totally dig JMX in this!  He has some interesting runs.

TGP is the only other song from SDOIT that I see get near the level of praise that BF gets. Considering that I think that it's the weakest on the album, I'd still call that overrated.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Mladen on January 31, 2010, 04:57:39 AM
It's a fun song, but not one of my favorites on the album...
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: LTE on January 31, 2010, 06:46:17 AM
I see the whole first disc as being pretty equal imo. Equally amazing. SDOIT is now tied for favorite album.

But yeah I love the lyrics to this, the keyboard into, and how it gets so powerful when the chorus hits.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 31, 2010, 06:59:49 AM
Blind Faith is an amazing song.  Top 20 easy, maybe higher.  IMHO the only song on the album that compares with it is The Glass Prison.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Rafael Guerra on January 31, 2010, 08:24:01 AM
Blind Faith is one of the reasons I consider SDOIT one of their best albums. Piano-wise, the sounds brought into it are magic and although it brings sort of a happier feel than the other songs in the album, its still a fast happy song and definably a watermark from the album. I like the CIM version too.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on January 31, 2010, 08:33:47 AM
the organ solo is one of the most progressive things they've done. It kind of reminds me of some ELP
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Plasmastrike on January 31, 2010, 08:54:43 AM
I'm glad this popped up. I've actually listened to SDOIT in its entirety twice lately and enjoyed it so much. It's such a fucking fresh album with lots of new ideas. While I love TOT, I wish they would have kept on pushing the boundaries after it.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: ddtonfire on January 31, 2010, 10:49:48 AM
One of my favorite DT songs and my favorite DT unison section!
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Marvellous G on January 31, 2010, 11:00:13 AM
Yeah, the unison section is really fantastic, great song overall, but it still sort of annoys me that the chorus is in minor, while the verses are in major, it still doesn't quite fit for me. Great song nonetheless.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Space Invader on January 31, 2010, 11:07:10 AM
The whole of Six Degrees is great, and so is Blind Faith.
Plus, the piano halfway through is perfect and beautiful.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Kyo on January 31, 2010, 12:57:21 PM
The chorus is pretty weak, but the rest of the song is so cool that I really don't care.
The whole section starting with "and still life pushes on" until the unisons is just killer!
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: ddtonfire on January 31, 2010, 01:25:51 PM
The chorus is pretty weak, but the rest of the song is so cool that I really don't care.

I agree with this. The pre-chorus makes up for it, but it's still kind of anti-climatic.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Basekick on January 31, 2010, 01:45:38 PM
Please tell me I'm not the only one who read the thread title and thought "Um...shouldn't this be in general music discussion?"

 :facepalm:

Staying on topic though, damn good song, and I absolutely love the instrumental section.  JLB is pretty horrible though singing this in CIM.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on January 31, 2010, 01:54:20 PM
^ good band, but I could tell that this was about the song :P
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on January 31, 2010, 03:33:05 PM
Amazing song from my favorite DT album. JR really shines in here.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: robwebster on January 31, 2010, 08:41:37 PM
The song that elevated Dream Theater, for me, from "hey these guys are pretty cool, I'll listen to their music now and then" to "this is so amazing."

Seriously. I was so in love with Blind Faith that you couldn't believe it. It was like a journey. An odyssey. I got into DT through listening to individual tracks that a friend sent me, and I didn't have a laptop, so I had to put Blind Faith on a CD so I could bring it into my bedroom and listen to it on the CD player. With headphones, often. So at night, I'd close my eyes, press play, and experience the journey. Right in my ears, blocking out everything else. Just the music. And the images in my head. And I didn't know music could be like this! So many colours! So many moods! What a voyage.

Oh god I miss that. Discovering music. That was good. Carolina IV by Angra was also on that CD, or another one I made shortly after. That was like an expedition every time I listened to it. A journey all around the world, on a ship. I could see it returning, ragged, at the end. I could hear the stormy seas. Carolina IV ends in the same way it began, too. Like Blind Faith did. Maybe that was the little key. The sense of coming full circle, but going to so many different places.

Crikey you guys have got me all nostalgic. I'm welling up - although, truth be told, that's because I put on too much Vaporub and it's stinging my eyes. But yes. Blind Faith got me into Dream Theater, into progressive music, into emotional music. Don't get me wrong, I listened to music before. Hell, I listened to Dream Theater before. I liked ITNOG and Honor thy Father, but mainly cause they were heavy and had loads of cool singalongy bits. And I liked Therion and Nightwish before hearing Dream Theater because I loved orchestras, so I did love powerful music that makes you swell up - and I loved heavy music. Always liked heavy music. But I never realised how epic music could be until I listened to Blind Faith, aged about 14, not long after Train of Thought was released. Beautiful.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Ben_Jamin on January 31, 2010, 08:50:31 PM
Yup Yup. one of the reasons why 6doit is my favorite album. everything after sounds pretty much the same. but this was like the best thing they've recorded with jordan. everything is mixed well
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Dublagent66 on February 01, 2010, 07:13:06 AM
It's great and JP's solo really gives it flavor.   :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: ReaperKK on February 01, 2010, 08:02:07 AM
One of the first DT song I ever listened to, it's now my favorite DT song.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Dr. DTVT on February 01, 2010, 09:46:40 PM
This song didn't really click for me until I got the CiM CD/DVD.  And then it clicked...big time, including the studio version.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: axeman90210 on February 01, 2010, 10:24:59 PM
Blind Faith is an amazing song.  Top 20 easy, maybe higher.  IMHO the only song on the album that compares with it is The Glass Prison.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Perpetual Change on February 01, 2010, 11:03:36 PM
Blind Faith is the only song in the 10-15 minute range Dream Theater have written that can hang with Learning to Live in terms of awesomeness.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: wolfking on February 03, 2010, 04:41:50 AM
Top 3 DT songs for me.  Classic, I love it.  The airy atmosphere is amazing!!
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: cygnusx1jg on February 03, 2010, 07:41:21 AM
Blind Faith/Misunderstood IMO is probably the best sequential 20 minutes ever put on a DT record.  I love BF more for it's music and Mis more for it's lyrics (some of the best DT has ever written).
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: skydivingninja on February 03, 2010, 11:18:47 AM
Top 10 DT song.  Bit interesting since its got the same form of the "typical modern DT song" that lots of people complain about, but the way its executed here is masterful, especially JR's piano.  :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Marvellous G on February 03, 2010, 12:04:15 PM
God, the atmosphere in the intro is SO awesome...
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: glaurung on February 03, 2010, 01:34:50 PM
Top 10 DT song.  Bit interesting since its got the same form of the "typical modern DT song" that lots of people complain about, but the way its executed here is masterful, especially JR's piano.  :hefdaddy

I think the difference is the instrumental section really fits the song well. There isn't a sudden change of mood with it.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Implode on June 12, 2011, 04:58:58 PM
Reviving this thread for some more appreciation.

I've just recently gotten into this song. It has great vibe like no other DT song. Man that ore house is beautiful. The three keyboard solos are all unique and amazing. That organ solo is sick. Even the lead solo is memorable unlike many others. And of course, dat unison. :metal
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on June 12, 2011, 05:04:15 PM
One of their best, and the song I most frequent.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on June 12, 2011, 05:21:19 PM
One of my favorite DT songs and my favorite DT unison section!
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Vajra on June 12, 2011, 05:30:58 PM
An amazing song indeed. SDOIT doesn't have a single weak song, which is why I consider it to be DT's best album. (With Scenes and I&W's being a close, close second)
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: wammabe on June 12, 2011, 05:39:52 PM
Top 10 DT song.  Bit interesting since its got the same form of the "typical modern DT song" that lots of people complain about, but the way its executed here is masterful, especially JR's piano.  :hefdaddy

I think the difference is the instrumental section really fits the song well. There isn't a sudden change of mood with it.

^ I'm tired of that new DT template in which a sudden unrelated instrumental section comes up. The first couple of times they did that were enjoyable, but now it's a bit too predictable.

Anyways, Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence is the only album in which I love all the songs equally, I'd really like to see that happen again with the new album. I have to agree that Blind Faith has one of the Best Jordan Rudess performances out there.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Elaitch on June 12, 2011, 07:27:17 PM
Great song. One of the full 10's in their catalog. The instrumental section from about 4:30 to the last chorus is one of my absolute favourite DT moments.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Infinite Cactus on June 13, 2011, 01:07:27 AM
Incredible song. DAT UNISON
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Jirpo on June 13, 2011, 01:41:43 AM
In my top 10!
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: ? on June 13, 2011, 01:42:50 AM
Incredible song. DAT UNISON
AND DAT PIANO PART
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: toro on June 13, 2011, 02:03:46 AM
Top 10 song for me I love it
Also... DISC 1 RATING TIME:

1.- Blind Faith
2.- Dissapear
3.- TGP
4.- TGD
5.- Missunderstood

And seriously those 5 songs are probably the best 'back to back' 5 songs on their catalog. Not even I&W gets close.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: smerfak on June 13, 2011, 02:23:21 AM
This is the song I'm listening all the time now  :heart
The Glass Prison used to be my favorite from 6DOIT but now it's definitely Blind Faith ; )
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Fran521 on June 13, 2011, 06:32:47 AM
One of my favorites song. The chorus is great, and the instrumental section is one of their best, specially JR's piano solo
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: N4Player on June 14, 2011, 05:46:41 AM
God, the atmosphere in the intro is SO awesome...

Agreed. Grabs a hold of you and never lets go. My personal favourite song from SDOIT.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: ubit on June 14, 2011, 12:42:40 PM
WOW!

I need to go listen to disc one some more.  When I first got into the band, I sort of dismissed those songs on disc one honestly.  Then I checked out The Glass Prison, and was in love.  Never got into the other four songs as much.  I am inspired to give those songs a closer look now.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on June 14, 2011, 12:45:17 PM
I made a list of my favorite DT songs and this ended up being #5
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Nekov on June 14, 2011, 08:25:26 PM
How did I miss this thread?

Almost everything about this song is perfect. Great atmosphere, awesome instrumentals, killer solos,  :hefdaddy drumming. Not a fan of the chorus but I think it plays a great part in the song connecting one section to the other, except for the last one which in my opinion is the only weak part of the song. By far my favorite DT song.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: chaotic_ripper on June 14, 2011, 08:31:24 PM
Probably my favorite from SDOIT.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Mbarak on June 15, 2011, 05:23:18 AM
Blind Faith is the only song in the 10-15 minute range Dream Theater have written that can hang with Learning to Live in terms of awesomeness.

I always thought Blind Faith was the closest thing the band got to I&W era.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: jonny108 on June 15, 2011, 05:24:08 AM
Awesome song. Live is hit and miss though :/ Which is a shame.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Sycsa on July 31, 2014, 05:56:27 AM
Awesome song. Live is hit and miss though :/ Which is a shame.
Indeed. I was just listening to it today and realised this is a song which could really benefit from the Mangini-era triggered backing vocals to give the chorus that much needed beefing up. Couple that with James' outstanding form in recent years, it'd be a killer addition to the next tour's setlist (along with TGP, please).
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: mikeyd23 on July 31, 2014, 07:01:54 AM
Oh yeah! Playing TGP right into BF live; just like it is on the album would be sweeeet!!
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Stadler on July 31, 2014, 09:59:16 AM
I'm with Nekov; how did I miss this?

I love Blind Faith, and Misunderstood.   SDOIT is one of my favorite DT albums, and while I get that some think it a "let-down", I thought it was a worthy successor to SFAM.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: JiM-Xtreme on July 31, 2014, 10:10:56 AM
Oh yeah! Playing TGP right into BF live; just like it is on the album would be sweeeet!!

+1. Shame it almost certainly won't ever happen that way...
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: The Stray Seed on July 31, 2014, 10:37:49 AM
To me, it's one of the greatest DT songs ever. *Chills*
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Rickharris1011 on July 31, 2014, 10:42:09 AM
SDoIT came out right at the time I started  getting into digital downloads over buying CDs - but it was in a pre-iTunes era (for me), so I had songs, but not albums. It always hurt my appreciation for SDoIT, because I never really listened to it as a whole. 

Blind Faith was the exception.  It's just so catchy it ended up in heavy rotation.  Even though it's over 10 minutes I think of it as the best Dream Theater "rock" song.  Songs like PMU, Lie, and more recently OtBoA and TIE that are more accessible to a mainstream listener: classic song structure, catchy melodies and (mostly) straight ahead time signatures. 

I absolutely love the "bridge" in this song.  For a band that writes outstanding bridges, this may be the best of them all. 

Top-20 song for me

Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: tofee35 on July 31, 2014, 10:42:26 AM
Blind Faith/Misunderstood IMO is probably the best sequential 20 minutes ever put on a DT record.  I love BF more for it's music and Mis more for it's lyrics (some of the best DT has ever written).


I'll go ahead and agree.

When the bridge kicks in (around 5:40 I think), it goes from good song to legendary.  I love it.

-Tof
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Tomislav95 on July 31, 2014, 10:55:49 AM
I have almost forgotten how great this song is. I like everything about it including chorus (I didn't like it before).
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Madman Shepherd on July 31, 2014, 11:30:54 AM
Awesome song. Live is hit and miss though :/ Which is a shame.
Indeed. I was just listening to it today and realised this is a song which could really benefit from the Mangini-era triggered backing vocals to give the chorus that much needed beefing up. Couple that with James' outstanding form in recent years, it'd be a killer addition to the next tour's setlist (along with TGP, please).

Excellent point! 

I don't have a strong opinion on the triggered vocals either way  but this is one song that would definitely benefit. 

Put it back to back with Misunderstood and I would pass out.  Those two songs are perfect together. 
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Dublagent66 on July 31, 2014, 01:47:02 PM
It's my #2 song on that amazing album.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: hefdaddy42 on July 31, 2014, 02:18:24 PM
It's my #2 song on that amazing album.
Same here, although TGP is starting to lose a little luster, so this may jump to # 1.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Zook on July 31, 2014, 02:19:30 PM
It's my #2 song on that amazing album.
Same here, although TGP is starting to lose a little luster, so this may jump to # 1.

Blasphemy!
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: KevShmev on July 31, 2014, 02:19:55 PM
Misunderstood is better than both. :hat
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Zook on July 31, 2014, 02:21:58 PM
That's just silly.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Dublagent66 on July 31, 2014, 02:53:29 PM
Misunderstood is better than both. :hat

Really?  DT The League 2014 would like to have a word with you.  :biggrin:

Six Degree of Inner Turbulence (92-25-3, .779)
1. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 19-1
2. Blind Faith 17-2-1 
3. The Glass Prison 15-4-1
4. Disappear 15-5
5. The Great Debate 15-5
6. Misunderstood 11-8-1

Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: TheGreatPretender on July 31, 2014, 03:38:07 PM
Misunderstood is better than both. :hat

+1
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Dublagent66 on July 31, 2014, 04:02:16 PM
It's my #2 song on that amazing album.
Same here, although TGP is starting to lose a little luster, so this may jump to # 1.

I agree about TGP.  It doesn't do as much for me as it use to.  Although, the title track is still #1 for me.   :biggrin:
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: CharlesPL on July 31, 2014, 04:06:34 PM
I like this song,but it's not even in my top 50.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: BlobVanDam on July 31, 2014, 08:30:06 PM
Misunderstood is better than both. :hat

Really?  DT The League 2014 would like to have a word with you.  :biggrin:

Six Degree of Inner Turbulence (92-25-3, .779)
1. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 19-1
2. Blind Faith 17-2-1 
3. The Glass Prison 15-4-1
4. Disappear 15-5
5. The Great Debate 15-5
6. Misunderstood 11-8-1



I love the entire album, but I'm still surprised that TGD didn't come in last. I think my ranking at this point would be-

SDOIT/TGP
Blind Faith
Misunderstood
Disappear
TGD

Blind Faith isn't much behind the first two at all, and is still easily a top 10 DT song for me.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Sir Walrus Cauliflower on July 31, 2014, 08:42:17 PM
I was gonna rank the songs off of SDOIT, but I'm honestly kind of tired of making everything a competition. I love TGD. I know you don't like at as much as the others, Blob, but I think it's on of the best. It's such a good album it's hard to compare though.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: BlobVanDam on July 31, 2014, 08:52:42 PM
I was gonna rank the songs off of SDOIT, but I'm honestly kind of tired of making everything a competition. I love TGD. I know you don't like at as much as the others, Blob, but I think it's on of the best. It's such a good album it's hard to compare though.

What fun is DTF without mindless ranking of everything possible? :lol
I agree that it's such a good album that it's hard to compare, and also because the songs are so different too.
I still think TGD is a great song, it's just the one song on the album that I think is not as godly as the rest. If it were on another DT album, it would have still been one of the best on the album. On SDOIT though, it just happens to get nudged to last for me. No shame in being the weakest on SDOIT. That's like being the slowest runner in the 100m final at the Olympics.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Sir Walrus Cauliflower on July 31, 2014, 09:13:47 PM
Next we're going to be ranking sections of songs...

I think the uniqueness of each song is something that really stands out on SDOIT. Every song is so important to the album. On topic: Blind Faith is a wonderful track. I especially love the "And still life pushes on" section.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Hourglass Prison on July 31, 2014, 09:17:36 PM
I love Blind Faith. It took me a while to even pick up Six Degrees when I first got into the band, but it's become one of my favorite albums.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: ThatOneGuy2112 on July 31, 2014, 09:46:47 PM
The instrumental section of this song is one of DT's absolute best and one of the many things that make it one of my favorite songs from them. Fantastic song on a fantastic record.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on July 31, 2014, 09:51:10 PM
Still remains in my top 10 DT songs, as does the rest of the album :P
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: badger on August 01, 2014, 06:55:26 AM
top 3 for me
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: KevShmev on August 01, 2014, 08:21:45 AM
Misunderstood is better than both. :hat

Really?  DT The League 2014 would like to have a word with you.  :biggrin:

Six Degree of Inner Turbulence (92-25-3, .779)
1. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 19-1
2. Blind Faith 17-2-1 
3. The Glass Prison 15-4-1
4. Disappear 15-5
5. The Great Debate 15-5
6. Misunderstood 11-8-1

The title track finishing ahead of EVERY song on Disc 1 is epic fail, so DT The League 2014 might want to go back to the drawing board. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: hefdaddy42 on August 01, 2014, 08:24:36 AM
I was gonna rank the songs off of SDOIT, but I'm honestly kind of tired of making everything a competition.
I know exactly what you mean.

Here's my ranking:

1. The Glass Prison
2. Blind Faith
3. Disappear
4. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
5. Misunderstood

6. The Great Debate
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Tom Bombadil on August 01, 2014, 08:46:10 AM
Mine would look something like this

1. Misunderstood
2. Disappear
3. Blind Faith

4. TGP
5. TGD



6. SDOIT
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Dublagent66 on August 01, 2014, 11:08:23 AM
Misunderstood is better than both. :hat

Really?  DT The League 2014 would like to have a word with you.  :biggrin:

Six Degree of Inner Turbulence (92-25-3, .779)
1. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 19-1
2. Blind Faith 17-2-1 
3. The Glass Prison 15-4-1
4. Disappear 15-5
5. The Great Debate 15-5
6. Misunderstood 11-8-1

The title track finishing ahead of EVERY song on Disc 1 is epic fail, so DT The League 2014 might want to go back to the drawing board. :biggrin:

Well maybe, but most of us don't think so.  You'll be happy to know that the epic failure from my point of view is Misunderstood coming in dead last.  That's just wrong.  It should've finished at least in the top 4, IMO.  But hey, we've both been around long enough to know that DTF has a mind of its own.  Right, wrong or indifferent. ;)
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Invisible on August 02, 2014, 12:09:51 AM
A truly great song, one of my early favorites from an album that took years to click with me and now is maybe my number 1. I love the atmosphere of the song, and James happens to sound very good and natural, maybe because he wrote the lyrics. Besides, the chorus says they have faith in me, yay! (had to throw the bad joke)

As for rankings:

1. Six Degrees (can't help it, too awesome to try being original)
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2. The Great Debate
3. Blind Faith
4. Dissapear
5. Misunderstood (these four can change on a whim, actually whichever I'm listening to gets to be number 2)
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6. The Glass Prison (nothing against it, it's really good, but can't compete with the pure greatnesss of all the others)
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Madman Shepherd on August 02, 2014, 10:44:16 AM
My ranking:

Blind Faith
Misunderstood
The Great Debate

The Glass Prison

Disappear


SDOIT




The funny thing is, after it first came out my ranking was:

SDOIT

Blind Faith
Misunderstood





The Glass Prison
Disappear
The Great Debate



Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 02, 2014, 10:45:55 AM
1. Blind Faith
2. Disappear
3. The Glass Prison
4. Misunderstood
5. Six Degrees
6. The Great Debate
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Voices on August 02, 2014, 06:17:21 PM
One of my favs, and I do need to see it live someday.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: CharlesPL on August 02, 2014, 06:26:24 PM
My Ranking:

1.SDOIT
2.Misunderstood

3.The Great Debate


4.The Glass Prison
5.Blind Faith

6.Disappear
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Miss Bangkok on August 05, 2014, 11:58:32 PM
Blind Faith is one of my top 10 favs; I'm listening to it right now actually. It's a hall of fame tune.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: WDADU on August 06, 2014, 12:06:53 AM
One of my all-time favourite Dream Theater songs, and probably my favourite song off of Six Degrees of Inner Turbulance.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Podaar on November 03, 2014, 11:38:42 AM
Just popped into mention that I absolutely love the sonic space that JP's guitar tone occupies in this song. It's so scratchy and trebly that it rarely crosses over into JM or JR's space.

What a great song...man, I hope we get more of this stuff down the road.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: adamack on November 03, 2014, 11:53:52 AM
Love this song, but it's probably one of the least listened to on the disc for some reason.

I think it's because I like The Great Debate a considerable amount better, and they are both similar in length, both about social issues, etc. So I usually just put on TGD.

I'm listening right now though, and it's an awesome song nonetheless.

I love the bridge part after the second chorus. ("And still life pushes on...")

And the instrumental section following that is  :metal 

JR's piano solo part is among my favorite JR moments.

Also love how MP is so busy in the lead-up to the final chorus.

1. SDOIT and TGD (tie)
3. Misunderstood
4. The Glass Prison
5. Blind Faith
6. Disappear
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Dublagent66 on November 03, 2014, 12:35:41 PM
Well, since the thread got bumped, I'll chime in again.  A song truly worthy of appreciation.  :2metal:
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Tick on November 03, 2014, 01:52:41 PM
Studio wise one of my all time favorite DT songs! Amazing song!

Live version, not so much. James on the chorus sounds too different and not cohesive to me.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Scorpion on November 03, 2014, 03:10:26 PM
Yeah, this is still the best song on their best album. Everything about this song is amazing.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Madman Shepherd on November 03, 2014, 04:01:43 PM
Studio wise one of my all time favorite DT songs! Amazing song!

Live version, not so much. James on the chorus sounds too different and not cohesive to me.

Well, Chaos in Motion is widely regarded as a poor representation of most DT songs. 

Check out this performance from 2002.  Sounds much better IMO (sound quality is not so great for this bootleg though  :sad:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcbmjxAqgSk
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: mikeyd23 on November 04, 2014, 06:26:27 AM
Studio wise one of my all time favorite DT songs! Amazing song!

Live version, not so much. James on the chorus sounds too different and not cohesive to me.

Well, Chaos in Motion is widely regarded as a poor representation of most DT songs. 

Check out this performance from 2002.  Sounds much better IMO (sound quality is not so great for this bootleg though  :sad:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcbmjxAqgSk

That 2002 performance isn't bad and I'd agree that its certainly better than the CiM one, but Blind Faith has always been a DT song that has sounded better in the studio to me.  Which is weird for DT, because with all their live releases and bootlegs I have found performances of most of their songs that are equally enjoyable or more enjoyable than the studio versions, but Blind Faith has never been one of those songs. For me the studio version is untouchable because they just haven't been able to capture the song perfectly live, or at least the performances I've seen.

Regardless, Blind Faith is a tremendous song and one of my favorites off of an incredibly strong album.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Madman Shepherd on November 04, 2014, 03:13:10 PM
I actually think the vast majority of DT songs are much better in the studio than live including Blind Faith.  I would be hard pressed to think of songs I actually prefer live but there are a few. 
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: erwinrafael on November 04, 2014, 03:51:33 PM
Would have liked this better if MP did not overpower JR in the Moog solo.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: badger on November 04, 2014, 06:17:26 PM
 :metal In my heavy rotation list
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 04, 2014, 06:35:03 PM
I actually think the vast majority of DT songs are much better in the studio than live including Blind Faith.  I would be hard pressed to think of songs I actually prefer live but there are a few. 

I agree, especially anything from SDOIT. That album is so perfectly crafted in the studio, that it always loses a little something live. That's not a statement on how they play it live, just on how amazing that album sounds.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Enalya on November 05, 2014, 03:11:05 AM
Couldn't agree more, it's a masterpiece.

I always get chills when he starts:
Sick of all of this, the suffering, and we just carry on... (1:55)

The whole vibe and feel is just amazu. < 3


BUT I still didn't (fully) figure out what JLB meant with the lyrics, I'm really curious - every time I listen more questions pop up. Can someone shed some light on this?
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Nekov on November 05, 2014, 05:41:36 AM
Would have liked this better if MP did not overpower JR in the Moog solo.

Nope, I'd probably have liked it less.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: cramx3 on November 05, 2014, 07:04:58 AM
Would have liked this better if MP did not overpower JR in the Moog solo.

Nope, I'd probably have liked it less.

Same, MP is what makes this song for me. Some of my favorite drumming on any DT song.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Dublagent66 on November 05, 2014, 10:23:15 AM
JP's solo is just out of this world.  The icing on a very delicious chocolate cake.   :lol
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Madman Shepherd on November 05, 2014, 02:55:44 PM
Couldn't agree more, it's a masterpiece.

I always get chills when he starts:
Sick of all of this, the suffering, and we just carry on... (1:55)

The whole vibe and feel is just amazu. < 3


BUT I still didn't (fully) figure out what JLB meant with the lyrics, I'm really curious - every time I listen more questions pop up. Can someone shed some light on this?

My theory about the lyrics is that it is someone who is very discouraged by the world and frustrated with God.  They see injustice, people with big houses and iron fences who are happy in their own little world and oblivious to the suffering of others.  They questions how God can allow this to happen and begin to think there is no evidence that God exists so maybe he/she does not but regardless, we must carry on with life and do what we can to better this place with or without God.  In this, they find hope that maybe the world is a good place.  Even withstanding all of the suffering, there is a lot of people doing good and we cannot spend much time worrying about God's plan because we will never know all the answers and we have work to do. 
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: erwinrafael on November 05, 2014, 09:14:04 PM
Would have liked this better if MP did not overpower JR in the Moog solo.

Nope, I'd probably have liked it less.

Same, MP is what makes this song for me. Some of my favorite drumming on any DT song.

Oh, MP did have amazing parts in most of the song. In the *Hammond-style* solo part, though, you had to strain to hear JR because MP's doing hits that are not jiving with what JR was doing. (Sorry, I said Moog earlier. I meant Hammond)
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: wolfking on November 05, 2014, 09:14:53 PM
My fav part is still the 'still life pushes on' section.
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Enalya on November 06, 2014, 02:07:18 AM
Couldn't agree more, it's a masterpiece.

I always get chills when he starts:
Sick of all of this, the suffering, and we just carry on... (1:55)

The whole vibe and feel is just amazu. < 3


BUT I still didn't (fully) figure out what JLB meant with the lyrics, I'm really curious - every time I listen more questions pop up. Can someone shed some light on this?

My theory about the lyrics is that it is someone who is very discouraged by the world and frustrated with God.  They see injustice, people with big houses and iron fences who are happy in their own little world and oblivious to the suffering of others.  They questions how God can allow this to happen and begin to think there is no evidence that God exists so maybe he/she does not but regardless, we must carry on with life and do what we can to better this place with or without God.  In this, they find hope that maybe the world is a good place.  Even withstanding all of the suffering, there is a lot of people doing good and we cannot spend much time worrying about God's plan because we will never know all the answers and we have work to do.

I see, thanks for your views (I don't say you agree or not). But my opinion is that we can do better with God. God has told us and tells us nót to allow that happening many times, but we are blind to it. Blind Humanity imo.

I'd like to discuss this with James xD
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: a8ac on November 12, 2014, 06:10:02 PM
This song is perfect... Has a really fresh ambience, and one of my favorite instrumental sections (including one of JPs best solos) but what really stands out, are the lyrics, this might be one of the best lyrics Ive ever heard in a song, and Im being serious. The only thing I dont really love is the chorus... but apart from that, its a top 10 song for me
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Dublagent66 on November 12, 2014, 06:32:40 PM
I think JP's solo is the highlight of the song for me.  The intro is a close 2nd.  The chorus ain't too shabby either.   :biggrin:
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: badger on November 13, 2014, 09:09:14 AM
Everything about it is incredible. 
Title: Re: Blind Faith Appreciation
Post by: Raise the Drum on November 13, 2014, 09:48:19 AM
I've always found amazing that part where Jordan makes the piano break. I like the way that fits in the song, it doesn't feel like it's interrupting something. It's flows nicely and help the song to take a breath between JP solo and JR solo.

In a more general view the way that the instrumental part is arranged is a cool estructure of an instrumental part.
I mean:
               Guitar solo
               Riff
               Piano break
               Keyboard solo
               Unison

I find that all of those 5 songs from the first part of 6DOIT have unique and very interesting instrumental parts, i feel that those are elements where you can see the experimental atmosphere of the album.