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General => Musicians => Topic started by: 73109 on October 21, 2009, 02:17:16 PM
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Now, if I am not mistaken, Squier is a shit company, but I remember reading somewhere that once, Squier was actually like the way Epiphone or LTD is now. Bcause I think I actually have a guitar from that period. It is Korean made and it plays great, and doesn't sound half bad. Anybody know if this actually is from the time period in which Squier was not a shit company?
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There is still a large community of people who enjoy Squiers (new and old). With a little modding and tweaking, a Squier can become an extremely competent guitar. The new Classic Vibe series actually looks pretty cool.
A discussion forum: https://www.strat-talk.com/forum/squier-strat-forum/
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If I gave you the serial number would you know what year it was from?
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check it out, this might help
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squier#Serial_number_tracing
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Sweet, so apparently my guitar is a Saehan(Sunghan) made Squier made in 1993. Is it good, no clue.
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What do you mean, no clue? How does it play?
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It plays pretty good, neck is smooth, the thing is the bridge was replaced and the pickups are staring to get shot, so I wanted to know if this was a decent enough guitar (wood wise) to stick these https://www.guitarcenter.com/Lace-Holy-Grail-Noiseless-Pickup-3-Pack-305413-i1167958.gc in it, or would it be a waste?
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If the guitar feels good to you, then give it a go. Those pickups will definitely make a big difference. If you don't like how it plays then it's not worth it.
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how do you know the pickups are getting shot?
As with any other instrument or brand there are definitely instruments that stand out against the others and for some reason are just amazing, I have an 80s Epiphone strat which has been modded to hell, but plays and sounds great.
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I plug in and half the time they sound, the other half, they don't. Plus, it would be cool to get some of those noiseless p'ups in them. Perfect for late 60's0-80's blues rock.
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It could just be faulty wiring and not so much the pickups.
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It could just be faulty wiring and not so much the pickups.
This. In my experience at least, the electronics in Squiers are complete shit.
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Then its not worth it..I just gotta use my Jackson for everything...no biggie.
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It could just be faulty wiring and not so much the pickups.
This is more than likely exactly what it is. My Gibson SG had this going on, and if i toggled the pickup switch a couple time it would go away. Never fixed it, because it seemed to fix itself for the time being.
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wait... not worth it? huh? its like the easiest fix on a guitar.
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wait... not worth it? huh? its like the easiest fix on a guitar.
Yeah wtf?
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Plus the p'ups and all that just to get a tone that I really like but the thing is, I'll never play it. Because the second I block the floyd on my Jackson, I'll tune it down stupid low and do some crazy shit and that is all I'm gonna dig.
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alrighty then
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Is there anything more epicly metal then a crunchy riff at like Drop A.
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Is there anything more epicly metal then a crunchy riff at like Drop A.
Yes. Drop G. But I've always found that it's really hard to write music in that tuning.
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How about E...6 STEPS DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Is there anything more epicly metal then a crunchy riff at like Drop A.
An actual good riff in E standard.
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But then take that riff...drop it and you got something even more epic :2metal:
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Is there anything more epicly metal then a crunchy riff at like Drop A.
An actual good riff in E standard.
True.
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How about E...6 STEPS DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Porcupine Tree - Circle of Manias
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I have no problem with E, but it just seems to always have something missing...if the slight change to Eb makes things much heavier!
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I don't know, at least to me tuning has little to do with how heavy something is. Shit, look at Opeth - virtually all of their stuff (except the entirety of GR) is in E-standard, and it's heavy as fuck.
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A lot of it is the amp...but tuning down always helps.
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Dimmu Borgir plays in E standard, and they are in the dictionary next to the words epic and heavy
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A lot of it is the amp...but tuning down always helps.
No, heaviness relies completely on whether it's a good riff or not.
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How about E...6 STEPS DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Porcupine Tree - Circle of Manias
There is no music for the first 6 minutes so far
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Hey dudes...ready for the fail of the year...My headphones were not in!!! :lolpalm:
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A lot of it is the amp...but tuning down always helps.
You're putting far too much emphasis on tuning and equipment and not on good songwriting. In the end, everything comes down to what notes you're actually playing - everything else is secondary. There's a video somewhere on youtube of this guy doing an acoustic version of Blackwater Park by Opeth, and it's still evil as hell because the riffs are good.
How about E...6 STEPS DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Porcupine Tree - Circle of Manias
There is no music for the first 6 minutes so far
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Circle of Manias is 2 minutes long, so I have no idea what the fuck you're listening to.
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How about E...6 STEPS DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Porcupine Tree - Circle of Manias
There is no music for the first 6 minutes so far
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What?
Here's the vid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAhahAR9qaQ
It's at 7:43
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OK, the riff is the most important and the tuning and the amp is also very important...Think about this...The riff for Man in the Box (which I personally believe is one of the best and most simple riffs fall time) is stupid heavy...now tune the guitar to C...It is the same riff, but it went from 95% heavy to 195% heavy...
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Ok, stop with the face palming...why does CC tune down?
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OK, the riff is the most important and the tuning and the amp is also very important...Think about this...The riff for Man in the Box (which I personally believe is one of the best and most simple riffs fall time) is stupid heavy...now tune the guitar to C...It is the same riff, but it went from 95% heavy to 195% heavy...
I totally disagree. I think playing that riff in C would make it sound woofy and just another dime a dozen low-tuned guitar riff.
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OK. I fail, stop it goddammit!
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found this and had to use it
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Ok, you're clearly not getting what we're saying. Tuning down, a good amp/guitar etc, all of these things can help to make something sound better in the right context, but they can only make something that's good sound better. Using them like "OMGZORZ DROP-A = INSTANT METAL :metal :metal :metal :metal" is not the way to approach songwriting. Focus on writing something that can sound good regardless of what it's being played on, then worry about what effects to use, what tuning, instruments, etc.
Oh, and:
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Thank you sigz
That is what I have been saying. I do not go in thinking that is = insta metal but if the riff is good, an awesome amp and tuning down could possibly make it better. And writing shit is weird. i don't know what I am writing therefore I can never right a verse.
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And writing shit is weird. i don't know what I am writing therefore I can never right a verse.
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And writing shit is weird. i don't know what I am writing therefore I can never right a verse.
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And writing shit is weird. i don't know what I am writing therefore I can never right a verse.
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I can write intro's, bridges, outro's, sorta kinda solo's, but I can't ever write shit where there is a singer because I just don't know what it would sound like...do I play notes, power chords, chords...I kinda just get a block when it comes to verses.
Also, if I am writing a metal tune...which type of metal am I writing...if it death, then I should play all power chords, but then I don't like it, if it just normal heavy metal, I can't play power chord cause it doesn't sound right over a singer...I just get mind fucked when trying to right shit like verses...I know its weird.
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don't think so much and just play.
the other guitarist in my old band had the same problem.
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Really, I thought it was just a fucked block with me...what was he like? What did he say and do and shit like that?
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don't think so much and just play.
Pretty much this.
When I first started writing music I constantly had expectations of what I should be writing - prog, metal, etc. And I soon found myself turning to cliches to try to fall into that category - throwing in odd time signatures that contributed nothing to the song, drop tuning to be 'metal', etc.
I'm past that now, and far happier with what I've been writing, even though it's nothing like I would have expected it to be when I first started. But now I feel like I'm actually expressing myself/being creative, rather than trying to mimic some other band. Don't worry about what kind of music you're writing, just write. I think you'll find yourself much more satisfied with the result.
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Well he knew next to nothing about theory (I'm not sure where you are at with theory), but he didn't know notes, keys, scales, etc. He could write intro riffs well, but he could never write a verse. I tried to help him so many times but I never could get through to him.
Theory is important if you don't know it. You don't need to know everything about it, but know the basics.
Take a look at some of the metal bands you like and examine the structure of their verse riffs.
And remember that once vocals are placed over a riff, it will usually sound a lot better. Don't worry about the vox beforehand though. In my old band, we (and by we I mean me) wrote all the music first (we were a progressive/technical death metal band).
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Really, I thought it was just a fucked block with me...what was he like? What did he say and do and shit like that?
"Writer's block" happens quite a bit to me. Don't force it. Not even a little bit, because if you do, when you listen back to what you wrote, you'll be disappointed. I just stop writing when I run out of ideas.
I remember when I was writing a song, I had everything but the outro. I left it alone for about 3 weeks and I let those ideas build up, and I've been happy with the finished product ever since.
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In my old band, we (and by we I mean me) wrote all the music first (we were a progressive/technical death metal band).
The Dagger Rebellion right? Are you guys not together anymore?
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don't think so much and just play.
Pretty much this.
When I first started writing music I constantly had expectations of what I should be writing - prog, metal, etc. And I soon found myself turning to cliches to try to fall into that category - throwing in odd time signatures that contributed nothing to the song, drop tuning to be 'metal', etc.
I'm past that now, and far happier with what I've been writing, even though it's nothing like I would have expected it to be when I first started. But now I feel like I'm actually expressing myself/being creative, rather than trying to mimic some other band. Don't worry about what kind of music you're writing, just write. I think you'll find yourself much more satisfied with the result.
I am not trying to write anything...I kinda just sit there a noodle and I start playing shit and I am like, "Wow! This would be a cool intro," and I would fiddle with that for a couple minutes and then come to a point where I will think to myself, "Fuck! I would need a singer here...what to do...what to do" I like to play a lot of shit...Hell this morning I was trying to play Take It On The Run (really easy by the way) while listening to Slayer...it's definitely not the what to write, but the how.
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Well he knew next to nothing about theory (I'm not sure where you are at with theory), but he didn't know notes, keys, scales, etc. He could write intro riffs well, but he could never write a verse. I tried to help him so many times but I never could get through to him.
Theory is important if you don't know it. You don't need to know everything about it, but know the basics.
Take a look at some of the metal bands you like and examine the structure of their verse riffs.
And remember that once vocals are placed over a riff, it will usually sound a lot better. Don't worry about the vox beforehand though. In my old band, we (and by we I mean me) wrote all the music first (we were a progressive/technical death metal band).
Double post I know. But with theory, I am learning...I am not really knowledgable yet, but I do have a bases in some stuff...
My guitar teacher is like Vai good in theory so he throws it in any chance he gets.
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In my old band, we (and by we I mean me) wrote all the music first (we were a progressive/technical death metal band).
The Dagger Rebellion right? Are you guys not together anymore?
Ha I'm surprised you remembered the name.
Nope, not together. We spent over a year looking for a drummer that could play the stuff I wrote. We found someone who was perfect, and after a month, he wasn't into it anymore. So I got sick of it, and everyone else pretty much felt the same way. It was pretty much 99% my music anyways, so I'm going to contine to record the song ideas I have left, then move on to a different style. After three years of playing tech death, I kind of want to be in a non-metal band for awhile. Playing the kind of music we were is exhausting.
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@73109
There's really no other advice besides keep at it and continue to learn theory as you go. Your songwriting will get better with time.
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Also, my lack of verses is due to my lack of lyrics, which is due to my lack of creativity, so...yeah...I find it hard to match the mood of a song to non-existing words.
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Funny enough, I've been playing guitar for over 6 years now and my first guitar was a Squier strat, one of those starter packs. To this day it doesn't have the best tone but man the playability on the guitar is just unbelievable, I upgraded guitars almost immediately, and have had many over the years but I always go back to my Squier to practice. I set it up just the way I want it and it's great.
I think I'm going to mod it to set up like David Gilmour's strats are set up.
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wow. this thread turned into:
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Jeez, I know. And it started off so well.
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my dad has a squier from the 80s and it feels just as good as a fender.
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Drop tuning is for people who can't write a heavy riff in E-Standard. Seriously, tuning has little to nothing to do with it. It's more to do with the key signature of the riff. I can play a D-Minor riff on an E-Standard guitar. Low E and F = Instant Demonic Heavy Riff.
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Drop tuning is for people who can't write a heavy riff in E-Standard. Seriously, tuning has little to nothing to do with it. It's more to do with the key signature of the riff. I can play a D-Minor riff on an E-Standard guitar. Low E and F = Instant Demonic Heavy Riff.
Not always. Alternate tunings are amazing, and drop tunings, if used correctly, can be used to open up different scale and riffing patterns and more accessible licks. For example, using a tuning such as Open C major puts all the major scales into box patterns which make it really useful for shredding and tapping licks, as well as making more simple songwriting a breeze, and I'm in the camp that the easier it is to get the music out, the better and more natural sounding the end product's gonna be. However, it certainly makes it a bitch to do conventional sweeps, but if you've ever tried it out if you use some of the regular sweep shapes it makes for some weird dissonant sounding patterns that are simply tasty. With 7 strings its even more fun because you have the extra low G, plus 7 string sweeps are just ridiculous.