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Title: After all those years, how do we feel about...
Post by: Misirlou on May 18, 2025, 03:17:58 PM
The infamous Mike Portnoy "growling" section on A Nightmare to Remember?

Title: Re: After all those years, how do we feel about...
Post by: Cool Chris on May 18, 2025, 03:27:07 PM
Same as I always have. Let's be kind and say "negatively."
Title: Re: After all those years, how do we feel about...
Post by: WilliamMunny on May 18, 2025, 03:40:35 PM
Out of place and borderline ruins the song for me. I literally laughed out loud the first time I heard it. Man, that dude was just so in love with hamfisting whatever was in his cd changer into DT's writing process.
Title: Re: After all those years, how do we feel about...
Post by: geeeemo on May 18, 2025, 05:57:36 PM
I am in the minority. I like it. Its a surprise. It gives extra texture. I get bored fairly easily and this kind of thing makes me smile. I hope for more in rhe future.
Title: Re: After all those years, how do we feel about...
Post by: Adami on May 18, 2025, 06:13:07 PM
 :tdwn
Title: Re: After all those years, how do we feel about...
Post by: Stadler on May 18, 2025, 06:47:21 PM
Not my favorite moment in the catalogue; the song isn't great even without that, though.  James sings the hell out of it, and the solo is decent, but the constant double bass makes it boring to me. It's #68 on my list from a couple years ago, but wouldn't be that high was I to do the list now.
Title: Re: After all those years, how do we feel about...
Post by: DTiwbwMP on May 18, 2025, 06:57:33 PM
Wasn't a big deal to me then. Not a big deal to me now. The coverage this gets blows my mind!
Title: Re: After all those years, how do we feel about...
Post by: nobloodyname on May 18, 2025, 11:39:19 PM
Quote from: DTiwbwMP on May 18, 2025, 06:57:33 PMWasn't a big deal to me then. Not a big deal to me now. The coverage this gets blows my mind!

Exactly that. And the music doesn't fit the lyrics, anyway. But then this is Dream Theater we're talking about. The same band that thinks an alarm clock as you're falling asleep makes sense  :biggrin:
Title: Re: After all those years, how do we feel about...
Post by: Max Kuehnau on May 19, 2025, 03:49:07 AM
much preferred James singing it in 2019 and 2020 (and MM playing it), that's all I'll mention
Title: Re: After all those years, how do we feel about...
Post by: DreamerTV on May 19, 2025, 05:20:51 AM
"this can't be serious"
Title: Re: After all those years, how do we feel about...
Post by: CraftyCaleb2483 on May 19, 2025, 05:37:47 AM
Quote from: DTiwbwMP on May 18, 2025, 06:57:33 PMWasn't a big deal to me then. Not a big deal to me now. The coverage this gets blows my mind!
Yeah, I don't really care about it either because I never listen to ANTR anyway  :P
Title: Re: After all those years, how do we feel about...
Post by: MirrorMask on May 19, 2025, 05:58:26 AM
I can musically live with that, but the contrast between the music and the lyrics is unintentionally hilarious.

BY THE GRACE OF GOD ABOVE, EVERYONE SURVIVED, RHAWRRRR!!!!!!

Maybe they could have got the message across in a different way, like, dunno....

It's a miracle he lived, it's a blessing no one died
All survived but the scars are still burning inside


Or something similar.
Title: Re: After all those years, how do we feel about...
Post by: hefdaddy42 on May 19, 2025, 06:14:02 AM
Quote from: Misirlou on May 18, 2025, 03:17:58 PMThe infamous Mike Portnoy "growling" section on A Nightmare to Remember?


I didn't like it then, and I still don't like it.  I like the lyrics less, and the general bloat of the song even less.

BTW, there's no prize for starting the most threads.  Just in case you thought there was lol
Title: Re: After all those years, how do we feel about...
Post by: KevShmev on May 19, 2025, 06:51:19 AM
Same now as before: I don't love it or hate it.  It's good that they aren't full-on growls, as those in general have not aged well and sound even more cartoonish now than they did in the 00s, so being pseudo-growls in a manner of speaking works to their advantage in a sense.  A Nightmare to Remember is not a song I listen to often anymore (love the first half, the second half is merely good and gives me that "when is this going to end" feeling), but I guess a good way to put it is that that vocal section is not a make or break one for me.
Title: Re: After all those years, how do we feel about...
Post by: The Letter M on May 19, 2025, 07:40:54 AM
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on May 19, 2025, 06:14:02 AMBTW, there's no prize for starting the most threads.  Just in case you thought there was lol

Yep, and we already have a thread dedicated to ANTR, which was posted in as recently as last June.
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php/topic,42512.0.html

The Index of Albums & Songs thread is a big help for finding existing threads, rather than starting brand new ones for specific albums/songs.

-Marc.
Title: Re: After all those years, how do we feel about...
Post by: hefdaddy42 on May 19, 2025, 09:05:58 AM
Quote from: The Letter M on May 19, 2025, 07:40:54 AMThe Index of Albums & Songs thread is a big help for finding existing threads, rather than starting brand new ones for specific albums/songs.
Good point.
Title: Re: After all those years, how do we feel about...
Post by: MetropolisWatches on May 19, 2025, 11:09:36 AM
It's still firmly the worst recorded moment in the entire DT discography.
Title: Re: After all those years, how do we feel about...
Post by: TheBarstoolWarrior on May 19, 2025, 11:41:00 AM
It hasn't aged like wine but I will give credit where credit is due. He tried something different.

I think a guest vocalist - someone who specializes in this type of vocal - could have made it work better than it did.
Title: Re: After all those years, how do we feel about...
Post by: Max Kuehnau on May 19, 2025, 11:59:49 AM
yeah, Mikael Akerfeldt (or just, you know, leave it clean to sing for James)