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Title: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: lonestar on June 16, 2023, 07:29:29 PM
Ok, can't remember the last time a new album impressed me enough to bypass squirreling it away for roulette fodder, and go straight to making a thread about it. I think it was Ostura- The Room actually.

The skinny...OK Goodnight is 4 kids from Boston, barely in their 20s, and fresh out of Berklee (sound familiar?), and this is their second effort. I have yet to hear their first, but from what I've read it's good, but doesn't compare to this.

The sound? So...on a thin framework of prog/prog metal, these guys branch out to a ton of different influences to create a tremendously nuanced and at times achingly beautiful concept album about a fox and a bird on a quest to save their forest from a drought (at least that's what I've gotten after two full spins). There are no weak links in this band, but the highlights are definitely the drummer and the vocals. Female leads with some of the most tastefully placed growls I've ever come across, and man, this girl's voice is purely divine.

Anyhow...here's a video for the single The Snake, and the full album is on Spotify... and while the single is indicative of a small slice of what's going on, the real experience lies in a beginning to end spin. Enjoy my friends..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKD4lYzCPcw&ab_channel=OkGoodnight (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKD4lYzCPcw&ab_channel=OkGoodnight)

Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: Adami on June 16, 2023, 07:31:53 PM
Boston, Japan?

Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: nick_z on June 16, 2023, 07:33:44 PM
Tim recommended it a few days ago in the ...listening thread. It's really cool. I need to revisit it, as there is a fair amount to digest.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: lonestar on June 16, 2023, 07:39:48 PM
Boston, Japan?

Funny enough it came up on my reccomendations for spotify, which lately the algorithms have been heavily slanted towards the Japanese, so I'm still a bit baffled as to how it happened, but very grateful. You'll love this one dude, the vocalist is sooooooooo good...
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: TAC on June 16, 2023, 07:40:55 PM
Boston, Japan?

 :lol


Tim recommended it a few days ago in the ...listening thread. It's really cool. I need to revisit it, as there is a fair amount to digest.

Damn straight! Was on this last week and ready to recommend.
Even posted it in the Top albums of 2023 in my Top 10.



Yeah, this album is cool as shit. Lots of different styles. Turns out like three days before I discovered this album, they actually had a record release party concert in Boston.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: lonestar on June 16, 2023, 07:42:39 PM
They got a tour, all east coast, then the guitarist is leaving the band, so this might be a one hit wonder album... Let's hope not, cause there's a shit ton to digest and grow on here.

Definitely the first album of the year that has blown me away.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: jammindude on June 16, 2023, 11:17:48 PM
I’m freaking stunned!!! That song was amazing!!!
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: lonestar on June 16, 2023, 11:20:47 PM
I’m freaking stunned!!! That song was amazing!!!

Set the time aside and listen to the whole album beginning to end. It's a fucking masterpiece.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: jammindude on June 16, 2023, 11:21:33 PM
Just listened to The Bear on YT.

I think I just need to buy this album right now.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: lonestar on June 16, 2023, 11:23:26 PM
Just listened to The Bear on YT.

I think I just need to buy this album right now.

I'm three full spins in, the last with my good headphones and the lyrics. Tears were shed.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: jammindude on June 16, 2023, 11:24:29 PM
No physical media???
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: jammindude on June 16, 2023, 11:28:56 PM
Found out where to get a physical copy amongst other swag.

https://merchbooth.net/ok-goodnight/
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: lonestar on June 16, 2023, 11:42:47 PM
Found out where to get a physical copy amongst other swag.

https://merchbooth.net/ok-goodnight/

Yeah, I'll be adding a shirt to the collection for sure... Don't do physical media anymore with rare exceptions
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: twosuitsluke on June 17, 2023, 03:13:28 AM
I saw Tim and Nick mention this in the albums thread and forgot to check it out. I’m 3 songs in now and so far so good. There are definitely some familiar influences here that I’m troubling to put my finger on.

I can actually hear a bit of Caligula's Horse in the guitar tones and melodies. The other obvious comparison is to any female fronted prog rock. Initially Oceans of Slumber sprung to mind, but they don’t actually have that much in common.

I’ll report back after finishing the album.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: lonestar on June 17, 2023, 04:04:45 PM
The more I listen the more I fall in love with this album.

The Raven and The Mountain are the standouts of the heavier tracks, and The Bird is so achingly good.


Her voice man... It's just so brilliant and diverse, just love it
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: Adami on June 17, 2023, 04:56:40 PM
Checked out the video in the link.

Liked her. But not the band. They just came off as, probably exactly what they are, recent music school grads who want to use all the fancy time changes and prog stuff they know. It just didn’t feel like cohesive song writing to me. Felt like the band jammed and wanted proggy off time stuff and then the singer had to write vocal parts around it.

Does their other stuff sound less like what I described? I’d love to hear more of her.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: TAC on June 17, 2023, 05:11:31 PM
You really can't judge this album by any one song. There's a lot of variety and styles on the album. It needs to be taken in its totality.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: Adami on June 17, 2023, 05:26:00 PM
You really can't judge this album by any one song. There's a lot of variety and styles on the album. It needs to be taken in its totality.

That’s good to hear. I’ll give it a check on Spotify and buy if I dig it.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: Jamesman42 on June 17, 2023, 06:22:32 PM
I have it added to my Spotify library. I listened to two songs last night and was impressed by the vibes.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: lonestar on June 17, 2023, 06:42:23 PM
You really can't judge this album by any one song. There's a lot of variety and styles on the album. It needs to be taken in its totality.

That’s good to hear. I’ll give it a check on Spotify and buy if I dig it.

It's definitely a beginning to end concept album experience.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: twosuitsluke on June 18, 2023, 03:44:18 AM
Well DTF, you strike again. This is a really cool album and I’ll revisit for sure.

Sound wise I hear Caligula’s Horse, Bent Knee, The Dear Hunter (in the movie score style orchestral arrangements) and some heavier djenty/prog metal. I love a good melting pot like this.

Tim, I’m surprised, I wouldn’t have picked this as something you’d have loved to be honest. No denying this is worth checking out.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: Jamesman42 on June 18, 2023, 06:52:10 AM
I got huge Dear Hunter vibes from what I heard.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: lonestar on June 18, 2023, 07:30:21 AM
Well DTF, you strike again. This is a really cool album and I’ll revisit for sure.

Sound wise I hear Caligula’s Horse, Bent Knee, The Dear Hunter (in the movie score style orchestral arrangements) and some heavier djenty/prog metal. I love a good melting pot like this.

Tim, I’m surprised, I wouldn’t have picked this as something you’d have loved to be honest. No denying this is worth checking out.

I definitely got those playful Bent Knee vibes as well, and some. Caligula's too.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: lonestar on June 19, 2023, 07:38:54 AM
Still neck deep in this one...what's impressing me most is how deftly they intertwine the story and the music. Lyrically it's soooooo beautiful, and her voice carries the story brilliantly, and the music follows every emotion at every step. The moment's of musical wankery aside (which are actually really solid moments), this album is perfect in every way.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: jammindude on June 20, 2023, 01:45:26 PM
Just ordered both CDs and a shirt. I’m REALLY impressed with this band.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: lonestar on June 20, 2023, 03:02:30 PM
Just ordered both CDs and a shirt. I’m REALLY impressed with this band.

I got both shirts and a HD download (don't do physical media anymore unless it's signed or something)
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: TAC on June 20, 2023, 03:06:23 PM
I like the album a lot, but I'll stick with Spotify.  ;D
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: lonestar on June 20, 2023, 03:45:07 PM
I like the album a lot, but I'll stick with Spotify.  ;D

For about 90% of what I listen to, I will as well, but there's a lot of detail in this one that spotify compresses the shit out of. I do the same for all of Nemophila's releases cause what they drop on spotify is a shell of the lossless stuff.


Speaking of spotify, they got a new service coming out where all the music will be CD quality. I plan on looking into it, but am hesitant since I get free Hulu through my Spotify and don't want to lose that.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: TAC on June 20, 2023, 03:48:10 PM
I like the album a lot, but I'll stick with Spotify.  ;D

For about 90% of what I listen to, I will as well, but there's a lot of detail in this one that spotify compresses the shit out of. I do the same for all of Nemophila's releases cause what they drop on spotify is a shell of the lossless stuff.

Nah, I get it. Some stuff is so good to you that you have to buy it.

It's still a personal struggle deciding to buy CD's, downloads, or just Spotify.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: lonestar on June 20, 2023, 03:58:20 PM
I like the album a lot, but I'll stick with Spotify.  ;D

For about 90% of what I listen to, I will as well, but there's a lot of detail in this one that spotify compresses the shit out of. I do the same for all of Nemophila's releases cause what they drop on spotify is a shell of the lossless stuff.

Nah, I get it. Some stuff is so good to you that you have to buy it.

It's still a personal struggle deciding to buy CD's, downloads, or just Spotify.

As stated above, I just don't listen to physical media anymore. I'll buy a signed copy at a show, or for some of the J-metal bands they only do package deals to get shirts, so I'm now the proud owner of a Lovebites and Lonesome_Blue disc just cause I wanted their shirts.


I have a very bad problem with shirts these days, I'm literally buying like 2 a week online now  :lol
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: TAC on June 20, 2023, 04:02:59 PM
I'd certainly take Lovebites' shirts off of them..
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: lonestar on June 20, 2023, 04:04:17 PM
I'd certainly take Lovebites' shirts off of them..

yeah, try that with Midori, she'll kick your out of shape ass into next week...
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: TAC on June 20, 2023, 04:06:21 PM
I'd certainly take Lovebites' shirts off of them..

yeah, try that with Midori, she'll kick your out of shape ass into next week...

 :lol

Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: nick_z on June 20, 2023, 05:59:45 PM

Nah, I get it. Some stuff is so good to you that you have to buy it.

It's still a personal struggle deciding to buy CD's, downloads, or just Spotify.

Right?! I mean, I use Amazon Music, but it's basically the same thing.  These days, when available, I like to buy CDs from Bandcamp as they come with digital too, in any format you want. Otherwise, Amazon - preferably with the Autorip option. I used to rip all of my CDs using some older laptop, which has recently died. I should get an external CD reader/writer...but then I'm thinking, do I really need to do that? So now, for certain albums, I do indeed struggle  :) I still have a nice system to play my CDs, but I don't get to do it very often anymore. For example, the first Tanith album is available on Amazon, but the CD doesn't come with Autorip. The band sells the digital-only version on Bandcamp. What to do? I know, real problems  ;)
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: hefdaddy42 on June 21, 2023, 12:51:20 PM
Listened to this one today.  Really nice.

Some of the lyrics seemed a little hokey to me, which is always a danger with a concept album, but hopefully the music is good enough to balance that out, and this case it certainly was.  Very tasty.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: lonestar on June 21, 2023, 02:14:18 PM
Listened to this one today.  Really nice.

Some of the lyrics seemed a little hokey to me, which is always a danger with a concept album, but hopefully the music is good enough to balance that out, and this case it certainly was.  Very tasty.


Hard not to have hokey lyrics with a story about a fox and a bird on a mystical quest from a raccoon to save their forest from a drought. I will admit, for me at least, the lyrical elements surrounding the birds death and the fox's story from there are, paired with her amazing voice, very strong.

Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: twosuitsluke on June 21, 2023, 02:17:33 PM
Listened to this one today.  Really nice.

Some of the lyrics seemed a little hokey to me, which is always a danger with a concept album, but hopefully the music is good enough to balance that out, and this case it certainly was.  Very tasty.


Hard not to have hokey lyrics with a story about a fox and a bird on a mystical quest from a raccoon to save their forest from a drought. I will admit, for me at least, the lyrical elements surrounding the birds death and the fox's story from there are, paired with her amazing voice, very strong.

I think I remember this episode of The Animals of Farthing Wood.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: jammindude on June 21, 2023, 03:22:01 PM
Actually, I found the concept, the lyrics, and the entire story to be a bit refreshing.

EDIT - just a clarification that I have not received my CD of the entire album yet. But from what I gather so far of the above I have really enjoyed.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: lonestar on June 21, 2023, 04:43:40 PM
Actually, I found the concept, the lyrics, and the entire story to be a bit refreshing.

EDIT - just a clarification that I have not received my CD of the entire album yet. But from what I gather so far of the above I have really enjoyed.

Personally as someone who has Watership Down in their top 5 all time books, I adore the story, I love me a good animal centered folk epic, but I totally see Hef's point too.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: hefdaddy42 on June 22, 2023, 10:16:55 AM
It wasn't hokey enough to be too hokey for me.  I loved the album.  I was just expressing a point of view.

And I couldn't stand Watership Down.   :biggrin:
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: lonestar on June 22, 2023, 10:41:43 AM


And I couldn't stand Watership Down.   :biggrin:

*moves Hef down a peg on my coolness scale*
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: Jamesman42 on June 22, 2023, 11:17:43 AM
The Nightmare is fucking crazy.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: hefdaddy42 on June 22, 2023, 11:56:25 AM
*moves Hef down a peg on my coolness scale*
Still pretty fucking high
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: lonestar on June 22, 2023, 12:01:30 PM
*moves Hef down a peg on my coolness scale*
Still pretty fucking high



Hef on my scale...

(https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.YUJk5Fj0SkHiHwhtLQhaSQAAAA?pid=ImgDet&rs=1)
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: hefdaddy42 on June 22, 2023, 01:08:12 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: hefdaddy42 on June 23, 2023, 06:58:38 AM
So, I listened to their debut album yesterday afternoon.  I've gotta say, this band is very impressive.  Really interesting compositions, with open arrangements, giving each instrumentalist or vocalist plenty of ROOM, not competing with densely stacked layers of sound.  All of the solos are extremely tasty, and not once did I get a sense of bloat in any song.

All in all, one of my favorite musical discoveries of the year.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: Adami on June 23, 2023, 07:11:31 AM
Downloaded the album on Spotify. Will listen today.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: Adami on June 25, 2023, 10:18:57 AM
Finally listened to this.

First, the singer is amazing. Wow!

I really like parts of the music, but some of it really feels like prog 101. I blame the drummer for much of that. Clearly a super talented drummer but so many of his beats are the typical odd time prog shuffles that I’ve heard a million times and sounded redundant on the album being used so often.

But a lot of the music is great. Just wish the drummer gets more personality and changes things up on their next album.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: lonestar on June 25, 2023, 01:59:10 PM
Finally listened to this.

First, the singer is amazing. Wow!

I really like parts of the music, but some of it really feels like prog 101. I blame the drummer for much of that. Clearly a super talented drummer but so many of his beats are the typical odd time prog shuffles that I’ve heard a million times and sounded redundant on the album being used so often.

But a lot of the music is great. Just wish the drummer gets more personality and changes things up on their next album.

Totally agree on Casey's vocals, as well as the other singer Elizabeth Hull, they're both tremendous.


Disagree on the drummer, I think he's another highlight and .


I wouldn't hold your breath on another album, the guitarists is leaving after their short upcoming tour, and I think he's a driving force to the band. I mean, I hope we'll see more, but it's not sounding promising.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: Adami on June 25, 2023, 02:26:25 PM
I get that. I just felt the drums kept reverting back to a typical prog shuffle that I’ve heard a million times before.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: jammindude on June 25, 2023, 03:04:05 PM
Any word on why he’s leaving?
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: lonestar on June 25, 2023, 03:37:06 PM
Any word on why he’s leaving?

He's basically losing interest in the band... Here's his post...


Dear friends,

I decided to leave Ok Goodnight. The past couple of years have weighed heavy on me for some reason and I realized this decision was for the best.

Dealing with all the aspects of being in a band that wanted very different things made me start to lose my passion for music, and after trying hard to overcome those feelings I wasn’t able to find my passion in this band anymore.

But before my departure, we finished an entire album which will be coming out on June 2nd. We will also play a release show together so I hope it’s a nice send off!

Now that we’re past the sad stuff, I really wanted to say thank you for all these years supporting Ok Goodnight and me as a part of the band. I’m very grateful for all the music we did together and I hope you continue to support them in all their musical endeavors!

I will not stop making music ever. I love it. I just need a different path and I will be releasing a lot more music for many years to come 

Much love,
Marty
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: jammindude on June 25, 2023, 04:55:56 PM
I wonder if the reaction will make anybody change their minds. It really seems like this album is getting a lot of legs. At least from what I can tell.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: Jamesman42 on June 25, 2023, 05:34:51 PM
Seems like lots of good albums come from frustrations within the band.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: jammindude on June 29, 2023, 09:36:58 AM
So I got my hardcopies of both of their CDs and a T-shirt in the mail yesterday. I just finished my first full spin of The Fox and the Bird and….wow!!!

Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: lonestar on June 29, 2023, 09:40:16 AM
Got my shirt the other day as well, gonna rock it at the Tarja show tomorrow night. I went with the HD download, sounds so good.

The Mountain has literally been in my head for a week now...

"You'd remind me of the trees and the breeze that brought us here...you'd tell me... to pick up my feet and.... RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!"


Fucking amazing. :hefdaddy
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: jammindude on July 02, 2023, 07:41:18 PM
I cannot get enough of this album. I’m literally spinning it over and over again nonstop. The layers are just hitting me like a pan galactic gargle blaster.

If anybody knows of another band that is this all over the place I’m all ears. Because I feel like I’m in heaven right now. I mean…the first track sounds a bit like Florence and the Machine. The next few tracks are a bit 10,000 Maniacs-ish. But but then they can almost go to BTBAM extremes on other tracks.

It’s the extreme diversity contained within a single album that’s really connecting with me right now.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: lonestar on July 02, 2023, 10:27:59 PM
Don't know if you have Instagram, but they did a lengthy livestream today where they answered a ton of Dan questions... I popped in and out of it, interesting stuff.


Here's a link to it... https://www.instagram.com/tv/CuNeyNupGHC/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== (https://www.instagram.com/tv/CuNeyNupGHC/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==)
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: jammindude on July 02, 2023, 10:38:25 PM
Don't know if you have Instagram, but they did a lengthy livestream today where they answered a ton of Dan questions... I popped in and out of it, interesting stuff.


Here's a link to it... https://www.instagram.com/tv/CuNeyNupGHC/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== (https://www.instagram.com/tv/CuNeyNupGHC/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==)

I did watch it. I was just bummed that I missed the live stream.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: Lowdz on July 03, 2023, 04:08:57 AM
So how prevalent are these "tasteful" growls?
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: TAC on July 03, 2023, 04:13:56 AM
So how prevalent are these "tasteful" growls?

Tastefully prevalent.  ;D


Give it a listen. It’s a real nice album.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: Lowdz on July 03, 2023, 04:27:40 AM
So how prevalent are these "tasteful" growls?

Tastefully prevalent.  ;D


Give it a listen. It’s a real nice album.

Hmm  :\

Listening to the shared youtube track and its a bit busy... I'm getting old.  :lol
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: TAC on July 03, 2023, 04:33:54 AM
So how prevalent are these "tasteful" growls?

Tastefully prevalent.  ;D


Give it a listen. It’s a real nice album.

Hmm  :\

Listening to the shared youtube track and its a bit busy... I'm getting old.  :lol

Paul, there’s a lot of variety on the album. You might end up skipping a track or two but there’s plenty there you’d like.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: Lowdz on July 03, 2023, 04:44:34 AM
So how prevalent are these "tasteful" growls?

Tastefully prevalent.  ;D


Give it a listen. It’s a real nice album.

Hmm  :\

Listening to the shared youtube track and its a bit busy... I'm getting old.  :lol

Paul, there’s a lot of variety on the album. You might end up skipping a track or two but there’s plenty there you’d like.

i'll give it a go on your recommendation. Don't think I've said that for a long time!!!  :rollin
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: Lowdz on July 03, 2023, 04:50:31 AM
Listening to the debut as I can't access Spotify at work. I'm loving the riff to Think Again.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: Lowdz on July 03, 2023, 05:12:02 AM
I'm really enjoying the debut. What a fine album.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: NoFred on July 10, 2023, 12:40:05 AM
I keep coming back to this one, thanks to this thread for making me aware it’s worth the first few listens. Songs might not seem remarkable but the total album experience is top notch .
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: jammindude on July 10, 2023, 11:20:56 AM
I keep coming back to this one, thanks to this thread for making me aware it’s worth the first few listens. Songs might not seem remarkable but the total album experience is top notch .

It’s almost a hard album to recommend because there’s no one song that gives you any idea of the band’s “sound”.  If you show someone the title track, they wouldn’t get the right idea of what this band sounds like. But if you were to show someone The Bear or The Crocodile, it still wouldn’t accurately convey what this band is about. You almost HAVE to hear the entire album.

I literally can’t stop spinning it. I’ve been listening to the album on repeat since I got it and it just keeps getting better with every listen.

I’m not getting that same experience from the debut or the EP, but there are some good moments.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: ProfessorPeart on July 10, 2023, 11:42:49 AM
I somehow completely missed this thread here. I stumbled on these guys because I was looking into a bass player that guested on the new Nita Strauss album. Looking up his history lead me to this band as he played on some of their early material. I just got the shipping notice that my 2 CD's have shipped. Should have them later this week.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: nick_z on July 10, 2023, 11:46:31 AM
I keep coming back to this one, thanks to this thread for making me aware it’s worth the first few listens. Songs might not seem remarkable but the total album experience is top notch .

It’s almost a hard album to recommend because there’s no one song that gives you any idea of the band’s “sound”.  If you show someone the title track, they wouldn’t get the right idea of what this band sounds like. But if you were to show someone The Bear or The Crocodile, it still wouldn’t accurately convey what this band is about. You almost HAVE to hear the entire album.


Yep, that's true.

I don't love everything on this, but I agree that it's a great album experience. It sure is telling that I keep going back to it.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: The Realm on July 10, 2023, 04:11:19 PM
Thought I better chime in here. Been listening to this album for the last few days. Overall it is really great but agree with above takes that t is better taken as a whole. Even though I love all types of heavy music the softer songs probably work the best for me. After many listens I think the start of the album is extremely strong, I really love the first 4 songs including the beautiful instrumental The Journey.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: jammindude on July 10, 2023, 10:50:21 PM
Even after just a couple of weeks, I’m already going through that phase where each song is taking a turn being “my favorite”

First it was the title track
Then it was The Raccoon
Then it was The Mountain
Then it was The Snake
Then it was The Falcon
Then it was The Journey
Right now it’s The Bear

I think my favorite part is that it feels like I’ve just hit shuffle on my entire collection, and yet it somehow still functions beautifully as a single cohesive story.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: Ben_Jamin on July 11, 2023, 02:34:20 AM
I keep coming back to this one, thanks to this thread for making me aware it’s worth the first few listens. Songs might not seem remarkable but the total album experience is top notch .

It’s almost a hard album to recommend because there’s no one song that gives you any idea of the band’s “sound”.  If you show someone the title track, they wouldn’t get the right idea of what this band sounds like. But if you were to show someone The Bear or The Crocodile, it still wouldn’t accurately convey what this band is about. You almost HAVE to hear the entire album.

I literally can’t stop spinning it. I’ve been listening to the album on repeat since I got it and it just keeps getting better with every listen.

I’m not getting that same experience from the debut or the EP, but there are some good moments.

I would say The Falcon really defines their entire sound....
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: Ben_Jamin on July 11, 2023, 02:49:22 AM
One way I can describe the album is a more heavier Bent Knee...

What I enjoy about this band are the female vocals, the grooves and rhythms of the bass and drums.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: jammindude on July 11, 2023, 10:06:25 AM
I keep coming back to this one, thanks to this thread for making me aware it’s worth the first few listens. Songs might not seem remarkable but the total album experience is top notch .

It’s almost a hard album to recommend because there’s no one song that gives you any idea of the band’s “sound”.  If you show someone the title track, they wouldn’t get the right idea of what this band sounds like. But if you were to show someone The Bear or The Crocodile, it still wouldn’t accurately convey what this band is about. You almost HAVE to hear the entire album.

I literally can’t stop spinning it. I’ve been listening to the album on repeat since I got it and it just keeps getting better with every listen.

I’m not getting that same experience from the debut or the EP, but there are some good moments.

I would say The Falcon really defines their entire sound....

Hmmmm….

I won’t deny that The Falcon is the one song I tend to single out as an introduction to someone who already listens to progressive rock, because it’s the lone track on the album that sounds the most “Dream Theater-esque”.  But that’s just it. To me, there’s nothing else on the album that sounds like that song.  I mean, I’ve been trying to make comparisons on a per song basis and I’ve come up with this so far:

The Drought - Florence and the Machine or maybe Lorde
The Fox and the Bird - 10,000 Maniacs with a bit of The Cranberries
The Raccoon - …is almost downright Joni Mitchell
The Journey - this is fairly Dream Theater-ish as well, but it’s just a 2 minute interlude, albeit an excellent one.
The Snake - Pain of Salvation
The Falcon - as previously mentioned, definitely the Dream Theater song

The rest of the songs are almost into BTBAM and Opeth territory, but then The Bird breaks all that up with more absolutely beautiful minimalism.

But the diversity is why I love it. And also why I think it is worlds better than their other material.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: jammindude on July 11, 2023, 10:27:31 AM
I also wanted to mention that during one of their interviews, the lead singer pointed out that they’ve been getting a lot of comparisons to The Dear Hunter and she really loved that comparison. I’ve only heard a very little bit of them, and what I did hear didn’t immediately strike me, but this comparison makes me want to check them out a lot more. If they sound anything like this band, then I just haven’t looked at them hard enough.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: Ben_Jamin on July 11, 2023, 10:32:14 AM
The Bird actually does sound like The Dear Hunter, more so the song The Things That Hide Away.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: twosuitsluke on July 11, 2023, 10:39:09 AM
I think I said it on the first page but the band to me are like The Dear Hunter/Bent Knee/Caligula’s Horse.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: lonestar on July 11, 2023, 10:46:13 AM
I think I said it on the first page but the band to me are like The Dear Hunter/Bent Knee/Caligula’s Horse.

As good a mix as any, I love that they aren't committing to a specific sound, and instead are exploring whatever their tremendous talent will allow them to.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: Ben_Jamin on July 11, 2023, 10:57:34 AM
I think I said it on the first page but the band to me are like The Dear Hunter/Bent Knee/Caligula’s Horse.

I hear a lot of the Bent Knee in this album.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: jammindude on July 11, 2023, 11:36:12 AM
I think I said it on the first page but the band to me are like The Dear Hunter/Bent Knee/Caligula’s Horse.

As good a mix as any, I love that they aren't committing to a specific sound, and instead are exploring whatever their tremendous talent will allow them to.

You worded this perfectly! That is exactly what I’ve been thinking! It’s the definition of the word progressive rather than the definition of the genre of progressive.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: Ben_Jamin on July 11, 2023, 09:10:11 PM
I am just loving the concept and how each song has it's own distinct  sound to it....It is very fitting....

My favorite has to be The Racoon (and the Myth)
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: Skeever on July 12, 2023, 07:03:11 AM
The Bear is so freakin good!!

OK Goodnight are coming to a very small room in Philly next Thursday. I think I might have to go see them.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: lonestar on July 12, 2023, 07:18:02 AM
The Bear is so freakin good!!

OK Goodnight are coming to a very small room in Philly next Thursday. I think I might have to go see them.

So jealous... They aren't touching the west coast, I'd definitely drive hours to see them.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: ProfessorPeart on July 12, 2023, 09:49:02 AM
My discs arrived already so I can start checking this out. Small disappointment right off the bat, the new album appears to be a CDr and not pressed. Limbo + Under The Veil is definitely pressed.

Anyway, I'll start checking this out tonight.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: jammindude on July 12, 2023, 09:54:41 AM
My discs arrived already so I can start checking this out. Small disappointment right off the bat, the new album appears to be a CDr and not pressed. Limbo + Under The Veil is definitely pressed.

Anyway, I'll start checking this out tonight.

I haven’t looked quite that closely, but I wonder if that’s why I’m getting a slight scratching noise at the beginning of The Drought and The Journey?
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: lonestar on July 12, 2023, 10:02:18 AM
Interesting... Glad I bought the lossless download
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: jammindude on July 12, 2023, 10:06:04 AM
Interesting... Glad I bought the lossless download

I contacted Merch booth to inquire about the pressing. Maybe they will give me the files for free since I did purchase the album. I still think it kind of blows that we might be entering an age where people will sacrifice the quality of the physical media.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: ProfessorPeart on July 12, 2023, 10:28:38 AM
Yeah, as a heavy Discogs user I know what to look for. There are no identifiers on the disc at all to denote any kind of pressing and I can very clearly see the data area on the disc. It looks like I burned something on my PC. The other disc is completely uniform on the bottom and you can't see any noticeable lines. I will be ripping this to WAV right off the bat and storing those files on my PC as a backup. There also looked like there was some smudges on the edges like someone handled it. It was shrink-wrapped which threw me off, but I'm 99% certain it is burned.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: nick_z on July 12, 2023, 10:33:44 AM
Well, that’s kind of disappointing…
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: Skeever on July 12, 2023, 10:57:46 AM
I actually feel like I hear some weird audio issues in the quieter parts of the Mountain too. Feels like they don't have much budget to work with! Hopefully if the next album is a success, it might get a higher quality release.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: jammindude on July 13, 2023, 11:10:20 AM
I sent a IM to the band’s official FB page about the audio issues with the CD, and I got a response that thanked me for bringing it to their attention and they are going to look into it.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: jammindude on July 13, 2023, 01:37:40 PM
Well that was really cool! I got a response from the IM I sent to the band’s FB page, and apparently someone is lurking here.

They saw the recent conversation and sent me a code for a free download of the HQ files. Very very cool. I love it when a band is still small and interactive with their fan base. I have a feeling that a day is coming when they will be way too big to give that level of personal attention…so I’m enjoying it while I can.

Whoever it was, if you’re still lurking, I salute you…  :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: lonestar on July 13, 2023, 01:39:20 PM
Hey lurker, feel free to join, we'd love to have an inside perspective to this amazing album.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: Skeever on July 13, 2023, 01:50:45 PM
Got my ticket for next Thursday.

Really tough for me to decide what I like better - this album or Fauna.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: lonestar on July 13, 2023, 01:56:48 PM
So jealous... I'd love to see them live.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: ProfessorPeart on July 13, 2023, 03:22:51 PM
Well that was really cool! I got a response from the IM I sent to the band’s FB page, and apparently someone is lurking here.

They saw the recent conversation and sent me a code for a free download of the HQ files. Very very cool. I love it when a band is still small and interactive with their fan base. I have a feeling that a day is coming when they will be way too big to give that level of personal attention…so I’m enjoying it while I can.

Whoever it was, if you’re still lurking, I salute you…  :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal

That's cool!

I ripped the disc using EAC last night and encountered no errors so I was happy with that. Did not get a chance to really listen. Hope to get to that soon.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: Skeever on July 13, 2023, 07:04:11 PM
So jealous... I'd love to see them live.

I will be happy to attend on behalf of the forums :lol
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: ProfessorPeart on July 15, 2023, 02:55:33 PM
Got my first listen in today. Quite a lot to digest. Really enjoyed it. All over the place and I agree it needs to be taken as a whole. I can see where some of it would not work in a library shuffle kind of thing.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: jammindude on July 15, 2023, 04:05:18 PM
Just an update on the audio issue.

Those of us who are full on from the CD generation know what it sounds like when you have a lens on your player that’s dirty? Or out of alignment? Sometimes it’s a dirty disc too, but it’s that digital scratching noise?

I was hearing that really badly at the very beginning of The Drought and during the quiet piano intro to The Journey. At first, I thought it was my car’s disc player, so I decided to burn a FLAC file from the disc and then listen to it that way. But the sound was still there. That was the reason for my original complaint.  Now that I’ve got the original FLAC files directly from the band I noticed that the noise was completely non-existent in The Drought (thank goodness) but when I was cranking The Journey yesterday, I still heard that very mild scratching sound…though not NEARLY as noticeable…at the beginning of The Journey.   Is anyone else hearing that noise? It’s definitely worse on the CD, but I’m still hearing it ever so slightly on the files and I’m wondering if it’s somehow intentional? Or a glitch in the original file? Or am I the only one that hears it?
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: SoundscapeMN on July 15, 2023, 07:21:55 PM
Could they support Childish Japes in Boston at their album release show in September?
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: Skeever on July 16, 2023, 06:13:45 AM
Just an update on the audio issue.

Those of us who are full on from the CD generation know what it sounds like when you have a lens on your player that’s dirty? Or out of alignment? Sometimes it’s a dirty disc too, but it’s that digital scratching noise?

I was hearing that really badly at the very beginning of The Drought and during the quiet piano intro to The Journey. At first, I thought it was my car’s disc player, so I decided to burn a FLAC file from the disc and then listen to it that way. But the sound was still there. That was the reason for my original complaint.  Now that I’ve got the original FLAC files directly from the band I noticed that the noise was completely non-existent in The Drought (thank goodness) but when I was cranking The Journey yesterday, I still heard that very mild scratching sound…though not NEARLY as noticeable…at the beginning of The Journey.   Is anyone else hearing that noise? It’s definitely worse on the CD, but I’m still hearing it ever so slightly on the files and I’m wondering if it’s somehow intentional? Or a glitch in the original file? Or am I the only one that hears it?

Can you provide a specific time stamp?
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: jammindude on July 16, 2023, 08:06:32 AM
Just an update on the audio issue.

Those of us who are full on from the CD generation know what it sounds like when you have a lens on your player that’s dirty? Or out of alignment? Sometimes it’s a dirty disc too, but it’s that digital scratching noise?

I was hearing that really badly at the very beginning of The Drought and during the quiet piano intro to The Journey. At first, I thought it was my car’s disc player, so I decided to burn a FLAC file from the disc and then listen to it that way. But the sound was still there. That was the reason for my original complaint.  Now that I’ve got the original FLAC files directly from the band I noticed that the noise was completely non-existent in The Drought (thank goodness) but when I was cranking The Journey yesterday, I still heard that very mild scratching sound…though not NEARLY as noticeable…at the beginning of The Journey.   Is anyone else hearing that noise? It’s definitely worse on the CD, but I’m still hearing it ever so slightly on the files and I’m wondering if it’s somehow intentional? Or a glitch in the original file? Or am I the only one that hears it?

Can you provide a specific time stamp?

From about :06 to :26. As I said, during the piano intro of The Journey. Almost the entire thing.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: lonestar on July 16, 2023, 08:24:57 AM
You guys got better hearing than I do... :lol
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: jammindude on July 16, 2023, 09:04:48 AM
I just listened to it again, and if you really crank it, I hear it almost from the start of the track before even the :06 mark. It becomes slightly more pronounced at the :11 mark and then continues all the way until the full band kicks in just past :30-ish.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: The Realm on July 16, 2023, 04:34:26 PM
Whatever that sound is, it has to be intentional? It kind of sounds like The Bird flapping his wings :)
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: TAC on July 16, 2023, 04:40:12 PM
I just listened to it again, and if you really crank it, I hear it almost from the start of the track before even the :06 mark. It becomes slightly more pronounced at the :11 mark and then continues all the way until the full band kicks in just past :30-ish.

It's also audible on the Spotify version.



Whatever that sound is, it has to be intentional? It kind of sounds like The Bird flapping his wings :)


Yeah this, totally. And if not flapping than at least the pitter patter of an animal.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: jammindude on July 16, 2023, 05:30:14 PM
I just wish it didn’t sound so exactly like when a CD lens is dirty or misaligned.

My brain keeps telling me “this is a sound I know well, and it’s not supposed to be there!”  But it’s possible that the intent was what you guys are saying.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: TAC on July 16, 2023, 05:41:13 PM
J-dude, we have enough problems in this world. No need to create more that aren't there. :lol
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: jammindude on July 16, 2023, 06:44:38 PM
J-dude, we have enough problems in this world. No need to create more that aren't there. :lol

But there’s this GORGEOUS album with an audio fault!!!



…..well, maybe.  :lol
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: The Realm on July 16, 2023, 07:50:22 PM
J-dude, we have enough problems in this world. No need to create more that aren't there. :lol

But there’s this GORGEOUS album with an audio fault!!!



…..well, maybe.  :lol

It's surely not an audio fault. Sorry, I just don't get how something so obvious would be a fault. It has to be an added sound to add atmosphere or something...
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: Skeever on July 18, 2023, 11:03:29 AM
It's definitely intentional, haha.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: Skeever on July 21, 2023, 08:18:35 AM
Well, I saw 'em last night at Milkboy in Philly.

To start, OK Goodnight are great live. They played about half of the new album, interlaced with old stuff. I hadn't heard the old stuff, but it actually sounded really good, so looking forward to checking that out now. Everyone sounded great - Casey Williams is phenomenal live, as are the band. The new touring guitarist doesn't miss a step.

LOTS of anime fans in the audience. I saw a lot more RWBY shirts than I saw shirts of any other prog/metal bands. I did spot a few Dream Sonic tees in the audience - I was wearing my Devin shirt.

My one complaint was out of anyone's control. It was fucking HOT in the room. Like a sauna. And too many opening bands. Show started at 7:30, and OK Goodnight did not start performing until 10:45 or so. I had to leave a bit early (I think the 2nd to last song) because I have work today and the train schedules in Philly get real sparse after midnight. Plus I was already pretty hot and tired from standing for 4 hours in the heat.

Still, so glad I was able to see the band in such a small room. Hopefully it's only up from here, and I'll always cherish the memory of seeing this exciting new band in such an intimate setting.

(https://photos.app.goo.gl/gDUDA3nCWx1B227g6)
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Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: lonestar on July 21, 2023, 08:25:39 AM
I seriously hate you right now.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: Skeever on July 21, 2023, 09:56:08 AM
I seriously hate you right now.

I mean, I get it. This is how I feel about TAC every time I see his avatar  :lol
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: TAC on July 22, 2023, 06:54:32 PM
I seriously hate you right now.

I mean, I get it. This is how I feel about TAC every time I see his avatar  :lol

 :lol

I'm so glad I took that pic. I was afraid to be seen with my camera, but I took it early in the afternoon. I so regret not getting any DT pics. I was just too afraid to get busted.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: lonestar on July 23, 2023, 11:41:52 AM
So I'm sure most of you heard about the sudden passing of Animals as Leaders guitar tech on the Dreamsonic tour last week. Dream Theater just posted a Gofundme with this pic of him...makes me wonder if he was affiliated with OK Goodnight in any way or if he was just a fan sporting their merch...

(https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/362686463_833749291450272_930757597695861370_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&cb=99be929b-59f725be&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=GGui1qAl_qsAX8jphw8&_nc_ht=scontent-sjc3-1.xx&oh=00_AfA5PhilXXdwMW-0rnayKqzbi86ZB2Nh-Nz8D8Y2Z5ccbw&oe=64C2848E)
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: TAC on July 23, 2023, 11:47:47 AM
Oh wow, maybe they worked with him. No idea where he was based out of.
Do they have any mention of him on their social media?
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: lonestar on July 23, 2023, 11:50:48 AM
Oh wow, maybe they worked with him. No idea where he was based out of.
Do they have any mention of him on their social media?


OK Goodnight didn't say anything as of yet, they've been mostly posting about their tour. I did tag them in DT's instagram post out of curiosity
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: Jamesman42 on July 23, 2023, 11:56:04 AM
So I'm sure most of you heard about the sudden passing of Animals as Leaders guitar tech on the Dreamsonic tour last week.

I missed that, holy shit :(
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: ProfessorPeart on July 23, 2023, 02:04:58 PM
Oh wow, maybe they worked with him. No idea where he was based out of.
Do they have any mention of him on their social media?

He was the owner and Luthier of Equilibrium Guitars just outside of Boston.

https://eqguitars.com
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: TAC on July 23, 2023, 02:08:39 PM
Oh wow, maybe they worked with him. No idea where he was based out of.
Do they have any mention of him on their social media?

He was the owner and Luthier of Equilibrium Guitars just outside of Boston.

https://eqguitars.com

Oh wow!

Until this week, I had never heard the word "luthier" before.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: lonestar on July 24, 2023, 09:09:39 PM
I heard back from OK Goodnight, it seems Dave's band Chuggernaut opened for the at the release show for this album just last month. So damn heartbreaking.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: jammindude on July 24, 2023, 09:12:11 PM
I heard back from OK Goodnight, it seems Dave's band Chuggernaut opened for the at the release show for this album just last month. So damn heartbreaking.

Oh wow. That’s so sad. I’m a little surprised that they didn’t say anything on their page. But maybe they just didn’t know him that well. I’m still curious as to whether they saw that picture that got circulated with him in their swag.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: TAC on September 03, 2023, 08:14:29 AM
Gave this album a nice dedicated listen last night for the first time in weeks.

An incredible album, really a submersive experience.

What really stood out to me this time was just how great the drumming is on this. Man, that kid is incredible.
Not sure how a bunch of college kids were able to out an album this good, and have the production and sound that it has.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 03, 2023, 08:21:09 AM
Off-topic, but what do you do during dedicated listens exactly? I am trying to find a good way to do that. Just laying in bed? Taking a long walk? Playing video games? Pretty interested in what you or others do.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: TAC on September 03, 2023, 08:25:43 AM
Off-topic, but what do you do during dedicated listens exactly? I am trying to find a good way to do that. Just laying in bed? Taking a long walk? Playing video games? Pretty interested in what you or others do.

I sat on my couch DTFing and had random baseball and college football games on TV last night.

I don't do video games. ;D
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: Adami on September 03, 2023, 08:28:04 AM
Off-topic, but what do you do during dedicated listens exactly? I am trying to find a good way to do that. Just laying in bed? Taking a long walk? Playing video games? Pretty interested in what you or others do.

My ideal would be in bed with good earbuds/headphones. But as is, it’s on my trip to work. Noise cancelling good quality ear buds and a nearly 1 hour trip on the train is a decent way to listen.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: jammindude on September 03, 2023, 08:32:20 AM
This is really a very special album. I still spin it on the regular. I hope this band continues with this level of incredible quality.

As far as my listening, I pretty much do my immersive listens while driving. My commute is about 40 minutes in the morning and about 50 minutes (or more depending on traffic) in the afternoon. In that time, I’m usually able to get most or all of an album. And if I leave it in on repeat for a week, I’m able to sink my teeth into it pretty well. The Fox and the Bird probably spent two straight weeks in my CD player before I finally added the album to my shuffle and switched back to my music player.  (Although the last 2 days have been dedicated to Live Subterranea by IQ)
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Post by: Skeever on September 03, 2023, 08:35:15 AM
Off-topic, but what do you do during dedicated listens exactly? I am trying to find a good way to do that. Just laying in bed? Taking a long walk? Playing video games? Pretty interested in what you or others do.

My ideal would be in bed with good earbuds/headphones. But as is, it’s on my trip to work. Noise cancelling good quality ear buds and a nearly 1 hour trip on the train is a decent way to listen.
I've got a really decent living room audio system, so for me it'd just be sitting on the couch listening to that at a good volume.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: TAC on September 03, 2023, 08:36:01 AM
my music player. 


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Post by: jammindude on September 03, 2023, 08:41:29 AM
my music player. 


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 :rollin :rollin :rollin

I was almost going to say something, but I wondered if someone else would.

It doesn’t seem right to call it an MP3 player since I only play FLACs
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: TheHoveringSojourn808 on September 07, 2023, 11:11:46 AM
just have to bump this thread and say i love this song so much

THE JOURNEY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJul_y3o48I
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 07, 2023, 11:23:47 AM
Off-topic, but what do you do during dedicated listens exactly? I am trying to find a good way to do that. Just laying in bed? Taking a long walk? Playing video games? Pretty interested in what you or others do.
When I do a fully dedicated listen to an album, I listen to it on my screened-in porch with a cigar and a glass of bourbon.  No other activities.

But those are kind of rare.
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Post by: lonestar on September 07, 2023, 11:38:58 AM
I usually put on my Grados and turn the lights low to off. No computer, no TV, no distractions.
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Post by: TAC on September 07, 2023, 12:46:42 PM
What are Grados?
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Post by: jammindude on September 07, 2023, 12:49:20 PM
just have to bump this thread and say i love this song so much

THE JOURNEY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJul_y3o48I

Weird because I’ve had this song stuck in my head all day long…even though I haven’t heard it all this week.

What an amazing album.
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Post by: lonestar on September 07, 2023, 01:14:25 PM
What are Grados?

It's a brand of headphones..they range from around a c-note to over 2k a pair. Mine are around 300 and are beyond amazing, they're open ended so the sound has a more open room feel to it.
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Post by: LithoJazzoSphere on September 07, 2023, 01:16:03 PM
Which ones do you have?  I have a bit of a headphone collection, and I have the SR325is among others.  They sound great, but they're not nearly as comfortable for longer periods of time so I don't use them that much. 
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Post by: lonestar on September 07, 2023, 01:17:43 PM
Which ones do you have?  I have a bit of a headphone collection, and I have the SR325is among others.  They sound great, but they're not nearly as comfortable for longer periods of time so I don't use them that much.

I have the SR225's and the Wireless GW100x
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Post by: TAC on September 07, 2023, 01:46:38 PM
What are Grados?

It's a brand of headphones..they range from around a c-note to over 2k a pair. Mine are around 300 and are beyond amazing, they're open ended so the sound has a more open room feel to it.

Cool!!
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 07, 2023, 02:36:23 PM
Off-topic, but what do you do during dedicated listens exactly? I am trying to find a good way to do that. Just laying in bed? Taking a long walk? Playing video games? Pretty interested in what you or others do.
When I do a fully dedicated listen to an album, I listen to it on my screened-in porch with a cigar and a glass of bourbon.  No other activities.

But those are kind of rare.

I know. *slowly hides binoculars*
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: axeman90210 on January 09, 2024, 08:00:19 PM
So, a few months later what's everyone's read on exactly how the end of the story plays out? Lyrics aren't normally my strong suit when it comes to music, but I'm sharing this album with some people in a music discord this weekend and it seems like there's a bit of ambiguity/not one established canonical take on it. My view so far is that the bird dies after the encounter with the crocodile, the fox has the final showdown with the bear on the mountain, the bear dies when the cliff gives way, and the fox dies on the mountain but having succeeded in bringing the rain back to their home.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: jammindude on January 09, 2024, 08:20:34 PM
So, a few months later what's everyone's read on exactly how the end of the story plays out? Lyrics aren't normally my strong suit when it comes to music, but I'm sharing this album with some people in a music discord this weekend and it seems like there's a bit of ambiguity/not one established canonical take on it. My view so far is that the bird dies after the encounter with the crocodile, the fox has the final showdown with the bear on the mountain, the bear dies when the cliff gives way, and the fox dies on the mountain but having succeeded in bringing the rain back to their home.

This is my take as well. While the story never states exactly who dies, I can’t picture the bird saying “feet” at the climax of The Mountain.

The whole ending moves me to tears. This is such an amazing album.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on January 26, 2024, 01:03:50 PM
Just an update on the audio issue.

Those of us who are full on from the CD generation know what it sounds like when you have a lens on your player that’s dirty? Or out of alignment? Sometimes it’s a dirty disc too, but it’s that digital scratching noise?

I was hearing that really badly at the very beginning of The Drought and during the quiet piano intro to The Journey. At first, I thought it was my car’s disc player, so I decided to burn a FLAC file from the disc and then listen to it that way. But the sound was still there. That was the reason for my original complaint.  Now that I’ve got the original FLAC files directly from the band I noticed that the noise was completely non-existent in The Drought (thank goodness) but when I was cranking The Journey yesterday, I still heard that very mild scratching sound…though not NEARLY as noticeable…at the beginning of The Journey.   Is anyone else hearing that noise? It’s definitely worse on the CD, but I’m still hearing it ever so slightly on the files and I’m wondering if it’s somehow intentional? Or a glitch in the original file? Or am I the only one that hears it?

That sound at the start of The Journey is probably intentional (it sounds weird though), but I was listening to The Mountain just now and noticed there's some bad clipping during the quiet section right before the climax. You can hear it pretty clearly on the "so close and yet so far" line. It sounds like the audio file for the keyboards got fucked up somehow. I don't have a CD but it's on both my Bandcamp digital copy and the Spotify upload. Gonna take another point off the whole album for that blunder. :neverusethis:

Anyways, I like this album a lot. It's got some speed bumps in the middle (I don't think The Nightmare or The Dream add much to the album) but I love the lush, subtly-jazzy sound of it, even during the heavier songs. Killer vocals too, both from Casey and Elizabeth.

Song ranking because fuck it we DTF

1: The Fox And The Bird
2: The Bear
3: The Falcon
4: The Mountain
5: The Drought
6: The Bird
7: The Snake
8: The Raccoon (And The Myth)
9: The Journey
10: The Rain
11: The Crocodile
12: The Dream
13: The Nightmare
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: lonestar on February 09, 2024, 10:15:00 AM
US tour announced :dangerwillrobinson:

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Post by: axeman90210 on February 09, 2024, 11:04:54 AM
Damn, nothing even close to me down in FL.
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Post by: lonestar on February 09, 2024, 11:12:31 AM
I may do Sacramento and Berkeley, especially if work permits it
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Post by: Adami on February 09, 2024, 11:14:32 AM
I may do Sacramento and Berkeley, especially if work permits it

But they're not even Japanese!
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 09, 2024, 11:25:30 AM
I may do Sacramento and Berkeley, especially if work permits it

But they're not even Japanese!
:lol
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Post by: lonestar on February 09, 2024, 11:27:47 AM
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Post by: Adami on February 09, 2024, 11:44:45 AM
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Seems a bit racist.
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Post by: jammindude on February 09, 2024, 12:13:29 PM
 :censored :censored :censored :censored

I have plans in stone for that weekend they trek to the Pacific Northwest. Feeling annoyed.

I don’t think a trip to San Diego is in the cards, but I’m thinking about it.
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Post by: TheHoveringSojourn808 on February 09, 2024, 02:39:18 PM
got a ticket for denver
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Post by: jammindude on February 10, 2024, 09:13:24 AM
I just checked out the other two bands and they sound fantastic as well.

The issue is that I have my JW summer convention that 3 day weekend, and yes…it means more to me than any concert.

I’m thinking more and more that I might just go to the show anyway. I can go to day one of the convention on Friday and the show Friday night, but it means getting home at midnight on a Friday and having to wake up at 6am to get ready for day 2 of the convention.  If I were still 30, this would be a piece of cake. But at 54, it’s a bit tougher.
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: TAC on February 10, 2024, 09:22:38 AM
I just checked out the other two bands and they sound fantastic as well.

The issue is that I have my JW summer convention that 3 day weekend, and yes…it means more to me than any concert.

I’m thinking more and more that I might just go to the show anyway. I can go to day one of the convention on Friday and the show Friday night, but it means getting home at midnight on a Friday and having to wake up at 6am to get ready for day 2 of the convention.  If I were still 30, this would be a piece of cake. But at 54, it’s a bit tougher.

Give me a break. You can do that! Jeesh.
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Post by: Buddyhunter1 on February 10, 2024, 09:32:41 AM
I just checked out the other two bands and they sound fantastic as well.

The issue is that I have my JW summer convention that 3 day weekend, and yes…it means more to me than any concert.

I’m thinking more and more that I might just go to the show anyway. I can go to day one of the convention on Friday and the show Friday night, but it means getting home at midnight on a Friday and having to wake up at 6am to get ready for day 2 of the convention.  If I were still 30, this would be a piece of cake. But at 54, it’s a bit tougher.

Give me a break. You can do that! Jeesh.

Just like you could come to the Cambridge show that I'll also be going to :neverusethis:
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: jammindude on February 10, 2024, 09:47:20 AM
I just checked out the other two bands and they sound fantastic as well.

The issue is that I have my JW summer convention that 3 day weekend, and yes…it means more to me than any concert.

I’m thinking more and more that I might just go to the show anyway. I can go to day one of the convention on Friday and the show Friday night, but it means getting home at midnight on a Friday and having to wake up at 6am to get ready for day 2 of the convention.  If I were still 30, this would be a piece of cake. But at 54, it’s a bit tougher.

Give me a break. You can do that! Jeesh.

Just like you could come to the Cambridge show that I'll also be going to :neverusethis:

I did briefly toy with the idea of traveling to another show. But GOOD GRIEF!!! Plane tickets, and two nights in a hostel were going to cost me 400 bucks to go to either San Diego or Chicago.  Then you have to take into account the tickets, the VIP package, the food, the Uber to get around…. it starts adding up really fast. So I bagged that idea.
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Post by: jammindude on February 10, 2024, 09:50:32 AM
I just checked out the other two bands and they sound fantastic as well.

The issue is that I have my JW summer convention that 3 day weekend, and yes…it means more to me than any concert.

I’m thinking more and more that I might just go to the show anyway. I can go to day one of the convention on Friday and the show Friday night, but it means getting home at midnight on a Friday and having to wake up at 6am to get ready for day 2 of the convention.  If I were still 30, this would be a piece of cake. But at 54, it’s a bit tougher.

Give me a break. You can do that! Jeesh.

Trust me. My brain and my heart both tell me this will be no problem whatsoever.  But it all starts when my body starts reminding my brain the way it feels every time I try to do something that used to be easy…and doesn’t feel that easy anymore.  Then my brain goes, “oh ya, I remember that now. That sucked!”
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: Dittomist on February 11, 2024, 12:54:59 AM
I'm so glad I opened this mysterious thread tonight and gave The Fox & The Bird a listen. It was exactly what I needed. And the timing is perfect because they're coming to Portland soon!  :metal
Thank you all!
Title: Re: OK Goodnight- The Fox and the Bird
Post by: lonestar on February 11, 2024, 03:04:37 PM
I just checked out the other two bands and they sound fantastic as well.

The issue is that I have my JW summer convention that 3 day weekend, and yes…it means more to me than any concert.

I’m thinking more and more that I might just go to the show anyway. I can go to day one of the convention on Friday and the show Friday night, but it means getting home at midnight on a Friday and having to wake up at 6am to get ready for day 2 of the convention.  If I were still 30, this would be a piece of cake. But at 54, it’s a bit tougher.

Give me a break. You can do that! Jeesh.

Trust me. My brain and my heart both tell me this will be no problem whatsoever.  But it all starts when my body starts reminding my brain the way it feels every time I try to do something that used to be easy…and doesn’t feel that easy anymore.  Then my brain goes, “oh ya, I remember that now. That sucked!”

I can speak as one who just did a out and back from SF to LA in less than a day with a 3 hour Haken show in between...it's totally fucking worth it.


God wants you to be happy, he wants you at the OK Goodnight show bud.
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Post by: Dr. DTVT on February 12, 2024, 06:04:11 AM
A little biased because I know two people in the band but Lines In The Sky are awesome and a good compliment to the line up.  It just sucks that they are not really coming near the eastern US except for the first show, which isn’t really close to me anyways.