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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: cramx3 on September 01, 2022, 01:39:55 PM
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Well technically the 2022 college football season began last week, but for most of the teams, it starts this weekend!
PSU plays at Purdue tonight, a rare Thursday night Fox primetime game. I have little hope for this year's PSU team. On paper, it doesn't seem like they fixed the issues from last season that lead them to losing 6 of the last 8 games other than our returning 6th year QB is healthy. Hopefully all that experience leads him to push this team to what they were before covid. Tonight will tell a lot, Purdue was pretty good last year.
The Ohio State vs Notre Dame game is the big highlight of the weekend, a rare time for me to root for the Buckeyes.
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Well, my beloved Golden Bears will get two warm up games against UC Davis and UNLV before heading into South Bend for the first match against the Irish in ages. Not holding much hope of coming out of there with a win, but at least I know the college football world, for a week at least, will be Cal fans.
:gobears:
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Several interesting games this weekend.
My alma mater Appalachian State gets to host UNC. Pretty weird for the Heels to make the trip to Boone, but I can't wait. UNC did not look great last week against FAMU. I like our chances.
Ohio St/Notre Dame should be interesting. Looking forward to seeing where they both are this early in the season.
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Several interesting games this weekend.
My alma mater Appalachian State gets to host UNC. Pretty weird for the Heels to make the trip to Boone, but I can't wait. UNC did not look great last week against FAMU. I like our chances.
Ohio St/Notre Dame should be interesting. Looking forward to seeing where they both are this early in the season.
If ND Wins, there's a good chance that they'll be #2 when Cal heads into town.
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I think PSU got every single flag to go their way last night including 3 flags thrown against Purdue on a single play. I don't think I've ever seen such a lopsided called game from refs before actually go my teams way. I'll take it as they squeezed out a tight road win on the final drive. Exciting game, but showed all the exact same issues as last year other than the team actually pulling out the W.
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Just heard, starting in 2026, the playoffs will be expanded to 12 teams.
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That's great news, the ESPN article says they are trying to get it effective for 2024. https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/34509443/board-managers-decide-12-team-college-football-playoff-sources-say (https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/34509443/board-managers-decide-12-team-college-football-playoff-sources-say)
The 11 presidents and chancellors comprising the board approved the original 12-team model, which includes the six highest-ranked conference champions and six at-large teams, the board announced on Friday.
The four highest-ranked conference champions will be seeded one through four with each receiving a first-round bye. Teams seeded five through 12 will play each other in the first round on either the second or third weekend of December. The quarterfinals and semifinals will be played in bowl games on a rotating basis while the championship game will be at a neutral site, as under the current format.
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Looking forward to see Utah try to go all Swamp People on Florida today! I expect it will be entertaining, but I have no expectations beyond that.
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Georgia looks really, really good.
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Georgia looks really, really good.
I was just coming here to say the same thing.
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Georgia looks really, really good.
I was just coming here to say the same thing.
It's like they're not even in the same division. I bailed on the game at halftime.
Cal on the other hand is taking care of their lower division opponent so far.
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Georgia looks really, really good.
I was just coming here to say the same thing.
Ditto. Great talent in every position.
Good to see a Michigan win even against a cupcake opponent
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That fucking tight end of theirs... 6'7" and 270? What a fucking behemoth.
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Looking forward to see Utah try to go all Swamp People on Florida today! I expect it will be entertaining, but I have no expectations beyond that.
Ugh... Rough ending man. Just brutal.
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Eh, first game of the year. Fun game, but it’s obvious the Utes are missing Devon Lloyd. Just not the defense we’re used to.
I don’t know if my perspective is skewed, but I thought Thomas got that touchdown that was called short.
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Still not recovered from the App State/UNC game.
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I’ll bet. What a roller coaster ride that was! The fourth quarter scoring was nuts.
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Lol Notre Dame.
I was wondering if Cal would head into South Bend next week to face a top 5 team, now I wonder if ND will even be ranked.
And damn if Texas almost had Bama.
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Lol Notre Dame.
yup, I love it.
Best part of the PSU easy win today against Ohio was our freshman QB (played almost all of the second half to get reps) and freshman RB lighting things up and showing the young talent this team has. Now if coaching can just put it all together (and so far, I'm liking our new DC) and I don't really mean for this year, but the following. PSU can be good this year, but I don't think they are a Big 10 contender... but maybe soon though so it's great to see the young players getting time to play and actually impress.
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*waits for Hef to come to thread and brag*
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Badgers stink, again.
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Badgers stink, again.
Wazoo finished it out...nice. (nothing against UW, just like to see the Pac 10 get some success)
Cal manages to hold on for the W against UNLV...next stop, Notre Dame.
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Badgers stink, again.
I was pulling for them, that sucks.
Pitt loses which is always a nice thing for PSU fans.
also, this:
*waits for Hef to come to thread and brag*
I love that App State won that game
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*waits for Hef to come to thread and brag*
Appalachian State has had some big upsets in the past. Congrats to the team.
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*waits for Hef to come to thread and brag*
*brags*
Good day for the Sun Belt Conference. App beats #6 Texas A&M, Marshall beats #8 Notre Dame, and Georgia Southern beats Nebraska.
In further news, Nebraska just fired Scott Frost.
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Nebraska should interview Marshall, Appalachian State and Georgia Southern coaches for the job. Great wins for the resume if needed in the future.
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Nebraska should interview Marshall, Appalachian State and Georgia Southern coaches for the job. Great wins for the resume if needed in the future.
Not sure if Shawn Clark from App would want it. He was an offensive lineman at App under legendary coach Jerry Moore, who established the culture in Boone ( three national championships and the win over Michigan), and he is off to a great start as the head coach himself. He basically enjoys divine status in Boone.
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Entertaining and crazy weekend of football.
If I'm a Texas fan, I'm super pissed. How do they let Bama score?
App State! Wow.
Nebraska. Suckage.
Marshall. Wow.
Michigan rolls against another cupcake but I'll take it.
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College GameDay will be broadcasting live from my alma mater Appalachian State in beautiful Boone, NC this Saturday!
I would encourage all of you to tune in at some point if you can, and see the absolutely gorgeous Boone area and our pine-surrounded stadium high in the North Carolina mountains!
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I'll try to tune in, PSU has a big game at Auburn this weekend. They are road favorites but it's going to be a tough game to win IMO.
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(https://i.imgur.com/RJcWbgi.jpg)
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Cal makes a respectable showing in South Bend, but just couldn't seem to finish the job.
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App St certainly likes to keep things interesting!
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That was a crazy ending but otherwise last weekends games mostly sucked. Even the PSU game, but at least my team put on a beatdown. Now PSU is #14 and I'm not so sure they deserve that yet. Purdue and Auburn both kind of suck even if they were early road wins.
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That was a crazy ending but otherwise last weekends games mostly sucked. Even the PSU game, but at least my team put on a beatdown. Now PSU is #14 and I'm not so sure they deserve that yet. Purdue and Auburn both kind of suck even if they were early road wins.
Yeah, I don't think we know a whole lot yet about many teams.
Except that George is friggin' fantastic. I know that.
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Cal freshman Jaydn Ott rushes for 277 as Cal beats Arizona 49-31
:gobears:
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Cal freshman Jaydn Ott rushes for 277 as Cal beats Arizona 49-31
:gobears:
Wow!! That’s awesome. Go Bears!
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Badgers have gone from a B+/A- program to a C in the last few years.
Tough watch right now.
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RJ,
Ott only getting 70 yards rushing was a bit of a surprise. Was it WASU's defence or just an off day for Jaydn? I wasn't able to watch the game.
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I didn't watch it either, but I'd guess they targeted him more heavily, and the rest of the offense didn't take advantage. Wazoo is definitely a stronger team that Zona.
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I caught the second half of the Georgia/Mizzou game, and it reminded me of why I hate college sports sometimes, as the top teams always get the officiating slanted in their favor. It is hard enough to beat a top team already when you aren't one, and when there are a handful of ticky tack calls (or non-calls) that all go the way of the favorite, it tilts the game to where scoring the upset is that much more difficult. Mizzou wore down, so there is a good chance that Georgia might have won anyway, but I just hate seeing stuff like that.
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Glad to see I'm not the only one who notices a bias in the college officiating. PSU fans have been saying that since they joined the Big10 conference that Michigan and Ohio State get all the favorable calls and I've started to believe it myself after all these years. However, if I'm also being honest, I've started noticing PSU getting the benefit of the ref calls the last couple years. I really do think the conferences want to have their top teams because there's money involved when you make it to the bigger bowl games / playoffs that gets split between the conference.
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Badgers have gone from a B+/A- program to a C in the last few years.
Tough watch right now.
Thoughts on Chryst's buyout? I don't know what's happening in Madison right now, but he's got a good record as coach there. Obviously this season is bad, but 11 million to fire him?
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Badgers have gone from a B+/A- program to a C in the last few years.
Tough watch right now.
Thoughts on Chryst's buyout? I don't know what's happening in Madison right now, but he's got a good record as coach there. Obviously this season is bad, but 11 million to fire him?
His buyout was actually $20M, so they negotiated it down. I’m sure there is some under the table money going his way though.
Third straight year of regression. The offensive line play, which used to be an NFL pipeline has completely disintegrated. Their 5 star QB turned into a dud and they’ve fallen behind on recruiting. Add in some uninspired losses to mid level teams and this is what you get.
Hopefully Jim Leonhard can turn it around. Has an NFL pedigree, local boy, and as DC has been stellar (although this year has been rough due to lots of youth).
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Tenn v Bama was one of the most intense entertaining games ever. Wow!
And Michigan takes care of business. I'm a happy camper!
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I was pleased with the Tennessee win over Alabama.
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That UT v Bama game was ridiculous. I was texting with a friend who attends UT, and she said the town is going batshit crazy.
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That was the weirdest looking kick I've ever seen.
And remember when storming the field and taking down goalposts was a rare sight for a monumental win? It seems like it is a weekly occurrence now.
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That was the weirdest looking kick I've ever seen.
And remember when storming the field and taking down goalposts was a rare sight for a monumental win? It seems like it is a weekly occurrence now.
Yep, although while you're right, that was a monumental win in my books, and especially for UT.
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That was the weirdest looking kick I've ever seen.
And remember when storming the field and taking down goalposts was a rare sight for a monumental win? It seems like it is a weekly occurrence now.
Yep, although while you're right, that was a monumental win in my books, and especially for UT.
Maybe, but it was still a #6 beating a #3, at home, in October.
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I'm kinda surprised the whole storming the field and tearing down the goal posts and dragging them through the city thing is still allowed, as it feels like it's only a matter of time before something bad happens. Not sure what you can do when thousands of college kids all storm the field at once, many of whom are likely underage and not sober, but it feels inevitable.
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That was the weirdest looking kick I've ever seen.
And remember when storming the field and taking down goalposts was a rare sight for a monumental win? It seems like it is a weekly occurrence now.
Yep, although while you're right, that was a monumental win in my books, and especially for UT.
Maybe, but it was still a #6 beating a #3, at home, in October.
Tennessee which has some history, has been terrible for a long time now. I think it was warranted for that fan base even if they are highly ranked and at home.
PSU got exposed yesterday, manhandled on the lines by Michigan and another example of Coach Franklin being a poor game day coach. >:( Granted, I thought PSU was over rated at #10 and a loss to Michigan was expected, but that wasn't even close or competitive besides two mistakes by Michigan in the 2nd quarter.
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UM's QB went 17/24-145-0-1, and they won by 24! Oh wait, they ran for 418! What decade is Harbaugh playing in?!
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Alabama has been flirting with defeat all season. If the Texas QB doesn't go down earlier in the season then 'Bama would have 2 defeats on their record.
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Nice weekend. 6 undefeated teams lost, plus various other upsets. And UNC beat Duke.
And Alabama losing is never a bad thing.
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I'm jumping on the Vols bandwagon. Not only football but baseball, WoSo and MBB are good too. I like the grey and orange combo.
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Appalachian State finally woke up and whooped up on Georgia State last night, 42-17.
Glad for the win, but Wednesday night games are weird.
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Nice to see PSU roll over an opponent in the White Out last night. PSU looks like they could end the season 10-2 which is much better than predicted. Hopefully they can be competitive against the Buckeyes next week, no one expects them to win so just play loose and try to be competitive is all I can ask for,
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Another good weekend of college football!
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Appalachian State has a tough one tonight on ESPN against Coastal Carolina.
Win or lose, should be a great game.
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I've got no issue with Tennessee being #1 in the playoff rankings. I'm not entirely sure Clemson should be over Michigan, but these things have time to play themselves out.
PSU will be favored to win out and if they do, they end up 10-2 and that's better than almost every projection before the season. As much as it is upsetting to lose to Michigan and Ohio State again, the season in my mind would be considered a big success if they can win out based on expectations. Also, if they win out, a NY6 bowl game would be possible with one final chance to get a signature win for the season. A championship is out of the picture, but still a lot to play for this year. I hope the team believes that as much as I do. Watch them lose to Indiana on Saturday :lol
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I also have no problem with Tennessee being # 1, but I'm a little perplexed at where TCU is ranked. They should be higher.
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I don't like Bama being in front of them either. I've got to believe if they win out that they'll be in though.
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I don't like Bama being in front of them either. I've got to believe if they win out that they'll be in though.
Yeah, probably so.
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Georgia dogging the Vols. Pun intended.
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Tenn vs. Georgia turned out to be a dud. I hope Ohio State vs. Michigan is more entertaining.
Really surprised by ND clobbering Clemson.
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That was another good weekend of college ball. I understood why Tennessee rushed the field, not so much LSU although that game was exciting and had a crazy finish.
For me team, beating Indiana is not much to brag about, but they won playing a significant amount of freshman and that is very encouraging for the future. I think if PSU's freshman QB can show why he was a top recruit, PSU is going to be a top 10 team the next few years. The young talent is just insanely good.
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Not every game this weekend went to my liking, but Alabama lost, so it was a success.
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Can't complain, TCU moves into the playoff picture. They can't lose though. I don't think they will make it as a 1 loss. We are more likely to see 2 Big 10 and 2 SEC teams before TCU makes it as a 1 loss it seems. Granted, PAC12 might get a team in if Oregon or USC can win out.
For me, at this point, I kind of have to root for Michigan/OSU to win out (besides their head to head obviously) and play a very close game to get both in the playoffs. This is the path for PSU to get to the Rose Bowl although as a general fan of college ball, I'd rather we not have two schools from the same conference in the playoffs so I'm rooting clearly in my own personal interest.
I can't wait till we get to the 12 team playoff. I feel there would be so much more to play for for so many teams right now. I do think it will devalue the "every game matters" but it will also make some of these end of season games still be very important for a lot of teams.
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Well both SC and Oregon have already played Cal, so they dodged that bullet :P
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I don't think there's any chance we get 2 Big 10 teams in the playoff.
I'm also hoping Tennessee loses again to reduce the odds of getting 2 SEC teams, but that isn't very likely.
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I don't think there's any chance we get 2 Big 10 teams in the playoff.
It's a fairly possible scenario. But lots of things would need to happen. Also, I think it would only be if Michigan won a close game over OSU. Based on OSU being ahead of Michigan now and all season, I don't think Michigan can survive even a close loss. The committee always loves OSU.
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In what was a beautiful but cold day in Memorial Stadium, Cal won the 125th Big Game in the battle of 'I don't want to be last in the Pac 12'.
Was really good to be there for sure, decades of memories in that building.
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My crappy seats...
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And the Axe waiting for games end...and it stays in Berkeley!!!
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Injuries will likely prevent Michigan from competing in Columbus Saturday. It's been a fun season though so no complaints from me if they get beat.
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Last weekend of the college football regular season, and then conference championship games next weekend. We are getting down to it.
If I had to guess, I would put the CFP participants as Georgia, Ohio State, TCU, and USC, but that is written in sand, not stone.
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USC has a tough 2 games ahead, I'm not sure they win them both. Definitely in if they do. Based on the rankings it seems there's potential for a 2 loss LSU to make it, but I can't see how they jump a TCU or stay ahead of USC if both those win out.
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A couple of big plays can completely offset the time of possession deficit, eh lonestar? Go Bears!
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A couple of big plays can completely offset the time of possession deficit, eh lonestar? Go Bears!
Couldn't quite seal the deal... Would've been a huge win too considering our local legend of a play by play announcer Joe Starkey is retiring and it's his last game. He's been calling Cal games for I'd gather over 50 years, and his call of the Play in '82 is the stuff of legend. (THE BAND IS ON THE FIELD!!!!).. At least we gave him a W in his last Big Game.
Cal has a lot of work to do, canning their OC and OLC was a good start, and their true freshman qb showed promise in the few snaps he took.
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I don’t know, I don’t get to see many Cal games, unfortunately, but just judging by scores, it seems to me you could use a consistent defensive output. Either that or y’all have had a lot of injuries.
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I'm still rooting hard for two Big 10 teams to make the playoffs. Chances are much better than when I first introduced the possibility here a few weeks ago. For that to happen, Michigan needs to win though so I'll be rooting for them today. The only reason I care is so PSU can go to the rose bowl. of course, PSU needs to win today against a bad Michigan state though for that to even matter.
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I don’t know, I don’t get to see many Cal games, unfortunately, but just judging by scores, it seems to me you could use a consistent defensive output. Either that or y’all have had a lot of injuries.
Cal's biggest flaw is that they have zero depth. Their first string is usually fairly solid, solid enough to make waves in games, but once you rest people or you get injuries, the quality of play plummets.
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What a surprising and amazing win for Michigan! I'm flying high.
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Yeah, shocking big win for UM.
I'm very happy for the PSU finish, especially with Clemson and Oregon being upset today. PSU may have beaten no one, but they also didn't lose to any inferior opponents which is hard to say to the rest of the field. Hoping for the sneak into the Rose still, but it's still a tough one. TCU and USC looking good for the other two playoff spots right at this moment. Georgia and Michigan seem like locks.
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Dang, OSU had Harbaugh by the gonads for nearly a decade, and now he flipped the script with 2 huge wins!
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Id say the next top 4 of the CFP rankings should be Georgia, Michigan, TCU and USC....
Let's see what happens in the conference playoffs.
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Id say the next top 4 of the CFP rankings should be Georgia, Michigan, TCU and USC....
Let's see what happens in the conference playoffs.
Speaking of conference games, I see the Dawgs' win has backdoored the Utes into the game. I wonder if USC is excited to get revenge on Utah or nervous that they have to play them again. :lol
Guess I'm headed to Vegas this weekend!
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A Utah win likely puts them vs PSU in the Rose. That would be very cool.
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Just read Oregon State came back from 21 behind to Oregon in the second half, without running a single pass play on their final 5 drives.
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I would guess the next CFP rankings would be 1. Georgia, 2. Michigan, 3. TCU, 4. USC.
I also expect those four teams to make the CFP regardless of what happens in the conference title games, although upsets there could change the seeding.
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I would guess the next CFP rankings would be 1. Georgia, 2. Michigan, 3. TCU, 4. USC.
I also expect those four teams to make the CFP regardless of what happens in the conference title games, although upsets there could change the seeding.
I think TCU should be in regardless. 12 wins in a P5 conference, I don't think playing an extra game should hurt them, but some people seem to think they need to win.... USC is different. If they lose to Utah, that means they have 2 losses and didn't win their conference. They are out and OSU is in with 1 loss. I am rooting for this scenario. I would love to see Utah vs. PSU in the Rose.
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Maybe. We'll see.
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Okay, so...
I'm a big NFL fan, and one reason I much prefer it to NCAA is because of its simplicity by comparison. 32 teams, NFC, AFC, easy stuff. I find NCAA to be much more daunting (I admittedly don't know much about it). But there's a thousand teams, the SEC, Big 10, Big 12, PAC this, PAC that, etc. It's all too much. I live in Oklahoma and cheer for Oklahoma State because that's where pretty much all of my family went, but I just can't bring myself to follow because of the seemingly complex nature.
Can someone ELI5 the basics of the structure/divisions, or point me to a good breakdown so it might be easier for me to follow?
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Wisconsin is blowing it up. Welcome Luke Fickell!
It’s been a dismal couple of seasons and the ending to the Minnesota game, the big rivalry game this past Saturday, was quite possible the lowest point yet.
I have faith the Badgers made the right decision.
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That could be a good hire. He's done well since leaving OSU and being an OSU guy, he knows the conference well.
Okay, so...
I'm a big NFL fan, and one reason I much prefer it to NCAA is because of its simplicity by comparison. 32 teams, NFC, AFC, easy stuff. I find NCAA to be much more daunting (I admittedly don't know much about it). But there's a thousand teams, the SEC, Big 10, Big 12, PAC this, PAC that, etc. It's all too much. I live in Oklahoma and cheer for Oklahoma State because that's where pretty much all of my family went, but I just can't bring myself to follow because of the seemingly complex nature.
Can someone ELI5 the basics of the structure/divisions, or point me to a good breakdown so it might be easier for me to follow?
It's kind of complicated to explain easily. I did find this thread that may be worthwile (it's a little old) https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/5ivbhu/eli5_how_does_college_football_work/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/5ivbhu/eli5_how_does_college_football_work/)
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Okay, so...
I'm a big NFL fan, and one reason I much prefer it to NCAA is because of its simplicity by comparison. 32 teams, NFC, AFC, easy stuff. I find NCAA to be much more daunting (I admittedly don't know much about it). But there's a thousand teams, the SEC, Big 10, Big 12, PAC this, PAC that, etc. It's all too much. I live in Oklahoma and cheer for Oklahoma State because that's where pretty much all of my family went, but I just can't bring myself to follow because of the seemingly complex nature.
Can someone ELI5 the basics of the structure/divisions, or point me to a good breakdown so it might be easier for me to follow?
Been a big college fan my whole life, and I'm still confused at times. :lol
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What lonestar says.
Plus, without a personal connection to one of the schools, and thick skin, it's impossible to be a college football fan. You've got to love more than the X's and O's. You've got to love the passion, the pageantry, the rivalries, the traditions, and the atmosphere. Because players are very young, and only eligible to play for a short time, the come and go through the team like shooting stars. You get some really sloppy football at times. Yet...when it comes together, man it can be highly electric.
I don't watch a lot of NFL, but when I do, I'm often surprised at how consistently well they execute plays. I'm just not used to that. :lol
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I don't think you need to have a personal connection to a school. I think you can just have "your team" and not have attended or anything like that, although, if you went to one of these colleges, you are likely to have that personal attachment and tradition and all that. But if you just like sport, I think there's a lot to love about this version of football. Mostly because the regular season matters more in this sport than any other so every weekend the games are important and meaningful. Although because the talent varies so much between schools, you do get a lot of "bad" games, but when you get an upset, it's soooo much more fun and meaningful than the NFL. Also, gameday atmospheres at the big schools just blow the NFL out of the water. There's nothing like going to a big time college football game. (and it's been wayy too long since I've attended one)
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Okay, so...
I'm a big NFL fan, and one reason I much prefer it to NCAA is because of its simplicity by comparison. 32 teams, NFC, AFC, easy stuff. I find NCAA to be much more daunting (I admittedly don't know much about it). But there's a thousand teams, the SEC, Big 10, Big 12, PAC this, PAC that, etc. It's all too much. I live in Oklahoma and cheer for Oklahoma State because that's where pretty much all of my family went, but I just can't bring myself to follow because of the seemingly complex nature.
Can someone ELI5 the basics of the structure/divisions, or point me to a good breakdown so it might be easier for me to follow?
It's kind of complicated to explain easily. I did find this thread that may be worthwile (it's a little old) https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/5ivbhu/eli5_how_does_college_football_work/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/5ivbhu/eli5_how_does_college_football_work/)
Some inaccuracies, but basically that's pretty close.
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Oh wow, I've been seeing a lot of rumors today that Ohio State is requesting to not play in the Rose Bowl if they don't make the playoffs because they played there last year meaning that unless Purdue beats Michigan, it looks like it's almost a lock for PSU to go to Pasadena! In other not so surprising news, Joey Porter Jr. has declared for the draft and will not be playing in the PSU bowl game. Sucks, but completely expected now a days.
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Oh wow, I've been seeing a lot of rumors today that Ohio State is requesting to not play in the Rose Bowl if they don't make the playoffs because they played there last year meaning that unless Purdue beats Michigan, it looks like it's almost a lock for PSU to go to Pasadena! In other not so surprising news, Joey Porter Jr. has declared for the draft and will not be playing in the PSU bowl game. Sucks, but completely expected now a days.
I would be wary of such rumors. I have no idea why Ohio State would make such a request.
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I prefer NCAA basketball to the NBA, but college football is definitely fun. There are some teams like Alabama, who look like they should be in the NFL and could likely compete with an NFL team. I do have my alma mater to cheer for (Illinois went 8-4 this year, which is amazing for them, and they actually appeared in the playoff rankings for the very first time).
Oh wow, I've been seeing a lot of rumors today that Ohio State is requesting to not play in the Rose Bowl if they don't make the playoffs
I hate when schools do this. You don't get to pick and choose which bowl you want, you get invited to play in a bowl game and you can either accept or decline. Period.
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Oh wow, I've been seeing a lot of rumors today that Ohio State is requesting to not play in the Rose Bowl if they don't make the playoffs because they played there last year meaning that unless Purdue beats Michigan, it looks like it's almost a lock for PSU to go to Pasadena! In other not so surprising news, Joey Porter Jr. has declared for the draft and will not be playing in the PSU bowl game. Sucks, but completely expected now a days.
I would be wary of such rumors. I have no idea why Ohio State would make such a request.
It's all over my twitter feed from reporters and apparently Kirk Herbstreit was saying it on ESPN last night. If they don't go to the Rose or playoffs, they are likely going to the Orange bowl to play the ACC winner so it's not like they are going to be out of NY6 if they make that decision. I do think it's a bit odd to decline the Rose Bowl though.
Oh wow, I've been seeing a lot of rumors today that Ohio State is requesting to not play in the Rose Bowl if they don't make the playoffs
I hate when schools do this. You don't get to pick and choose which bowl you want, you get invited to play in a bowl game and you can either accept or decline. Period.
I'm not sure if this has ever been done for a high level bowl? I do think part of this is due to the playoffs. If you aren't in the playoffs, these bowl games are fairly meaningless. Might as well try to get a fresh match up / location for the fan base. I do understand it from that perspective, but still, decline the Rose?!?! The other rumor is that the Rose was going to choose PSU over OSU and OSU is saying this to get in front of it. I'm not sure I believe that, I have a hard time thinking the Rose would choose a lesser team just for diversity, but maybe there is something to the idea that they would sell more tickets to a different team.
I'm just happy for my team, that is all.
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As someone who's team hadn't seen the Rose Bowl since 1959, fuck Ohio St.
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Oh wow, I've been seeing a lot of rumors today that Ohio State is requesting to not play in the Rose Bowl if they don't make the playoffs
I hate when schools do this. You don't get to pick and choose which bowl you want, you get invited to play in a bowl game and you can either accept or decline. Period.
I'm not sure if this has ever been done for a high level bowl? I do think part of this is due to the playoffs. If you aren't in the playoffs, these bowl games are fairly meaningless. Might as well try to get a fresh match up / location for the fan base. I do understand it from that perspective, but still, decline the Rose?!?! The other rumor is that the Rose was going to choose PSU over OSU and OSU is saying this to get in front of it. I'm not sure I believe that, I have a hard time thinking the Rose would choose a lesser team just for diversity, but maybe there is something to the idea that they would sell more tickets to a different team.
I'm just happy for my team, that is all.
Notre Dame did it years ago - they put out a statement after the season saying that they would only play at two select bowl games. Sure, you're a prestigious football school, but 'you' don't get to pick the bowl game - it's up to each bowl committee to offer you an invite.
The bowl games aren't meaningless - each school gets paid to play in the game. Those payments go into a fund that is then divided out amongst all schools in the conference. So the more schools a conference gets into bowl games, the more money they all get.
I agree that having a different school in the game as opposed to Ohio State again would probably get those fans more excited to make the trip. My brother was talking about Illinois being rumored for the Sugar Bowl and planned to go. Once they lost another game towards the end of the season, the rumor dropped to a smaller bowl game and he didn't want to go to a random.com bowl.
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With as many awesome high points as we had in the first half of the season, Appalachian State wound up not being bowl eligible for the first time since making the jump to FBS. That kind of sucks, but the Fun Belt has become a tougher league since they joined.
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The bowl games aren't meaningless - each school gets paid to play in the game. Those payments go into a fund that is then divided out amongst all schools in the conference. So the more schools a conference gets into bowl games, the more money they all get.
Bowl money is meaningless to players and fans though. You aren't wrong, but fans only care so much about the non play off bowls. Even the players don't view them as important as it's more and more common to have players opt out. I care about the Rose because it's prestigious. I don't care about most of the bowls though.
As someone who's team hadn't seen the Rose Bowl since 1959, fuck Ohio St.
:lol I read a bit more about this. Apparently OSU returned tickets to the Rose last year and that may have soured the Rose on wanting OSU to come back. They don't think OSU would sell as well which does make sense. Fans likely don't want to go to the same spot every year even as prestigious as it may be.
Also, speaking of the Rose, it looks like they were the last major hurdle to agree to get the playoffs expanded in 2024. And boy if the 12 team playoff had been in place, PSU would have made it quite a few times over the last 6 years (2020 and 2021 would not). The playoff expansion could be a very good thing for my team who so often is on the outside looking in.
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fans only care so much about the non play off bowls.
Seems pretty bitchy to me, since (for now, anyway) only 4 teams make the playoffs each year. How entitled can you be to turn up your nose at a non-playoff bowl?
If you don't make the playoffs, you should be thrilled to go to a bowl. Pretty much any bowl. This, from an alum of a smaller school who would be thrilled to play in any bowl.
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fans only care so much about the non play off bowls.
Seems pretty bitchy to me, since (for now, anyway) only 4 teams make the playoffs each year. How entitled can you be to turn up your nose at a non-playoff bowl?
If you don't make the playoffs, you should be thrilled to go to a bowl. Pretty much any bowl. This, from an alum of a smaller school who would be thrilled to play in any bowl.
There's a lot of meaningless bowl games. The vast majority are poorly attended. The NY6 bowls still hold a lot of value and prestige. The other 70% of bowls, not so much. I'm sure the players like them, I believe the players still get gift bags that have nice value and they get to travel to a warm location for a week or so. The schools/conferences make money. And the team gets extra weeks of practice that can be very useful in prepping younger players for the next season. But the games themselves aren't usually important or worthy of anything beyond a glorified scrimmage.
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It's official: CFP will expand to 12 teams beginning in 2024/2025 season.
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There are definitely too many bowls. They should be cut down, and the eligibility metric should be increased (something like a minimum of 8 wins, or whatever).
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The bowl games aren't meaningless - each school gets paid to play in the game. Those payments go into a fund that is then divided out amongst all schools in the conference. So the more schools a conference gets into bowl games, the more money they all get.
Bowl money is meaningless to players and fans though. You aren't wrong, but fans only care so much about the non play off bowls. Even the players don't view them as important as it's more and more common to have players opt out. I care about the Rose because it's prestigious. I don't care about most of the bowls though.
As someone who's team hadn't seen the Rose Bowl since 1959, fuck Ohio St.
:lol I read a bit more about this. Apparently OSU returned tickets to the Rose last year and that may have soured the Rose on wanting OSU to come back. They don't think OSU would sell as well which does make sense. Fans likely don't want to go to the same spot every year even as prestigious as it may be.
Also, speaking of the Rose, it looks like they were the last major hurdle to agree to get the playoffs expanded in 2024. And boy if the 12 team playoff had been in place, PSU would have made it quite a few times over the last 6 years (2020 and 2021 would not). The playoff expansion could be a very good thing for my team who so often is on the outside looking in.
This only reinforces my 'fuck Ohio St.' viewpoint
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OSU is a spoiled fan base. A lot of people wanted Day to be fired for losing to Michigan. Imagine that? :lol
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OSU is a spoiled fan base. A lot of people wanted Day to be fired for losing to Michigan. Imagine that? :lol
Whereas a Cal coach beating stanfurd is worthy of a contract extension, even if it's a 2-11 season
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:lol everyone's got their standard
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:lol everyone's got their standard
And some bars are much, much lower than others :lol
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OSU is a spoiled fan base. A lot of people wanted Day to be fired for losing to Michigan. Imagine that? :lol
Yeah, I heard about that.
Both sides in that rivalry are a little crazy.
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Thank you Utah.
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I'll have to give a thank you to a co-worker who told me that the over in the Utah/USC game was a lock. I rarely watched college ball, but I plunked some money down on it last night.
Over 67.5 points total
47-24 final
It helps that USC's defense is total trash, as the last three touchdowns by Utah were all the result of terrible tackling.
Whatever, I will take the money and run. :hat :hat
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I'll have to give a thank you to a co-worker who told me that the over in the Utah/USC game was a lock. I rarely watched college ball, but I plunked some money down on it last night.
Over 67.5 points total
47-24 final
It helps that USC's defense is total trash, as the last three touchdowns by Utah were all the result of terrible tackling.
Whatever, I will take the money and run. :hat :hat
The story of Lincoln Riley's career.
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I'm just glad I don't have to hear Fight On or Victory in the playoffs or Rose Bowl. Fuck USC.
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Thank you Utah.
You’re welcome. :biggrin:
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Thank you Utah.
You’re welcome. :biggrin:
Of course, that probably opens the door for Ohio St to take the fourth spot, which is just as vomit inducing.
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Yes, also thank you Utah. Looks like a lock now for Utah vs. PSU in the Rose Bowl :yarr
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Oh well... looking forward to 2026 for sure...a very, very young team, and a homefield advantage. Should be a good one.
Go Japan!!
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Go Japan!!
I don't think they have a chance at making the college football playoff this year, they didn't make their conference championship game. :)
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At least its a football related post in a football thread. Half credit for trying?
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At least its a football related post in a football thread. Half credit for trying?
Fun Fact - the Brits used to call it Soccer when the sport was in its infancy back around the 1850s or so.
Just sayin.....
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TCU loses...goddammit.
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It helps that USC's defense is total trash, as the last three touchdowns by Utah were all the result of terrible tackling.
Yup. That’s all the Big 10 Rose Bowl team has to do is not tackle like USC’s trash defense, and they‘LL get an easy win. ::)
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Looks like Michigan is in, so I'm guessing our final 4 will be...
1- Georgia
2- Michigan
3- Ohio St (booo)
4- TCU
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Looks like Michigan is in, so I'm guessing our final 4 will be...
1- Georgia
2- Michigan
3- Ohio St (booo)
4- TCU
I think you're right, but I think TCU still gets the 3 spot.
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I hope TCU is #3 because I don't really want to play Ohio State again since we just did. It will be what it will be though.
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Yup, TCU got the 3rd spot.
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A total of 2 completed passes between both teams made the Army vs Navy game pretty boring.
Looking forward to Michigan vs TCU!
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Mississippi State football coach Mike Leach dead of complications from heart condition
RIP
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He was one wild coach, not sure I would have wanted him coaching my team, but he had success in his own weird way and was definitely entertaining.
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While it's been a fantastic recruiting week since Utah beat USC, I'm a bit disappointed to have two of our All American players skipping the Rose Bowl in January. The culture at Utah has always been, if you can play and your team needs you, you play. Full Stop.
I was willing to give a pass to Dalton Kincaid, since he's been playing with an injured shoulder, but Clark Phillips III is healthy and vital to Utah's secondary. I've loved watching him with the team these past couple of years, but this sours his reputation a little, IMO. We'll have to see if the next man up philosophy pans out, but those are big shoes to fill.
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While it's been a fantastic recruiting week since Utah beat USC, I'm a bit disappointed to have two of our All American players skipping the Rose Bowl in January. The culture at Utah has always been, if you can play and your team needs you, you play. Full Stop.
I was willing to give a pass to Dalton Kincaid, since he's been playing with an injured shoulder, but Clark Phillips III is healthy and vital to Utah's secondary. I've loved watching him with the team these past couple of years, but this sours his reputation a little, IMO. We'll have to see if the next man up philosophy pans out, but those are big shoes to fill.
Evens things out since PSU's best WR and defensive back are also opting to sit out, although for our sake, those two have been enjired lately so PSU has been playing without them already. It sucks though, this is sadly the culture of college football right now. I'd like to think these players would play when it gets to the 12 team playoff.
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I get Seniors who are heading to the draft and have been injured during the season sitting out. Best to them, I say. But Clark Phillips is a real head shaker for me.
I guarantee, PSU's been watching film and just thinking, "Yeah, we'll just identify where he lines up and just not throw there." Now, they don't have to worry about him, half the field (potentially) opens up to their playbook.
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I get Seniors who are heading to the draft and have been injured during the season sitting out. Best to them, I say. But Clark Phillips is a real head shaker for me.
I guarantee, PSU's been watching film and just thinking, "Yeah, we'll just identify where he lines up and just not throw there." Now, they don't have to worry about him, half the field (potentially) opens up to their playbook.
PSU's strength isn't wide receiver. As mentioned, our best is out for the Rose, but after Parker-Washington.... we have no WRs really who showed up this year, Tinsley would be the next best and he's just OK. What PSU is tough at, is our tight ends in the passing game so it might not be as big of a loss in this scenario.
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Yeah, we're kinda into TE play too. We've lost two All American tight ends to injury this year, but our third option is still a beast.
Thomas Yassmin (https://youtu.be/06FKYvLDITI?t=1238)
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Lots of Mike Leach chatter on the airwaves up here, due to his time at WSU. I generally don't like characters, in politics, entertainment, sports... but the one exception is college football coaches. That is one profession where I love characters, and believe they enhance the sport. Bowden, Spurrier, Harbaugh... and there were few, if any, coaches who were more of a character that Mike Leach.
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Lots of Mike Leach chatter on the airwaves up here, due to his time at WSU. I generally don't like characters, in politics, entertainment, sports... but the one exception is college football coaches. That is one profession where I love characters, and believe they enhance the sport. Bowden, Spurrier, Harbaugh... and there were few, if any, coaches who were more of a character that Mike Leach.
I agree with you.
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Lots of Mike Leach chatter on the airwaves up here, due to his time at WSU. I generally don't like characters, in politics, entertainment, sports... but the one exception is college football coaches. That is one profession where I love characters, and believe they enhance the sport. Bowden, Spurrier, Harbaugh... and there were few, if any, coaches who were more of a character that Mike Leach.
I agree with you.
Same...he definitely was one of a kind. My cousin attended WSU when he was there, so I was able to get a bit of a taste of him through that. They also did a special, I want to say it was a 30/30 but can't be sure, on him that was fantastic.
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I get Seniors who are heading to the draft and have been injured during the season sitting out. Best to them, I say. But Clark Phillips is a real head shaker for me.
I guarantee, PSU's been watching film and just thinking, "Yeah, we'll just identify where he lines up and just not throw there." Now, they don't have to worry about him, half the field (potentially) opens up to their playbook.
PSU's strength isn't wide receiver. As mentioned, our best is out for the Rose, but after Parker-Washington.... we have no WRs really who showed up this year, Tinsley would be the next best and he's just OK. What PSU is tough at, is our tight ends in the passing game so it might not be as big of a loss in this scenario.
And PSU's top TE Strange just announced he's going to play! I'd be shocked if he doesn't have a big play in the Rose Bowl. Speaking of, I'm currently in Pasadena. I plan on stopping by the Rose Bowl this weekend, give my blessing.
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So my current work is handling foodservice operations for an office of one of the largest law firms in the world. The main boss, the head partner is making a site visit in the new year, he's a Michigan grad, and the date of his visit and the concurring catering events are pending if they beat TCU or not :lol
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:lol
They should win, unless TCU's passing attack get's going by torching Michigan corners. If TCU can get a lead, Michigan may have a hard time keeping up...although, I'd be surprised if it played out that way.
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Oregon relied too much on luck to win the Holiday Bowl.
The second and third quarters, Bo Nix looked like he just wanted to go the nearest church and pray...throwing the ball in the general direction of receivers isn't going to help baby Jesus. He only helps those who do it all themselves by throwing to five-star recruits.
On defense someone needs to remind the fucking-ducks that you tackle from the armpits down! Grabbing dude by the outside of his shoulder pads, as he runs by, gives him most of the leverage. Take his core or legs away and he goes down.
Really, I thought NC looked pretty damned good. Especially their quarterback Drake Maye. You can tell he just has that intangible quality that you know when you see it. Dude is a baller, and he's only a red shirt freshman? Dam, the Tar Heels have a great future with that kid.
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Michigan looking scared in the first half! TCU playing with house money.
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I'd be perfectly happy with the day ending with no Big 10 teams in play, but to be honest I think this one is to see who gets to be schooled by Georgia.
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I agree.
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Wow! Michigan defense looks like they’re trying to be UCLA.
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:lol
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Boy did this game take a turn in the last few minutes. Holy shit.
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No kidding. Not watching but checking on my phone periodically, and every time I glance at it, the score is different.
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Well they managed to squeeze every fucking ounce of drama out of that one, didn't they? Anyhow, congrats to TCU, one Big 10 team out of it.
Can't deny I'm a little miffed that Dykes couldn't lead Cal to the Jack Shit Bowl, much less the national title game, in his years here but I'll get over it.
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I’d say that, just based on the look in Stroud’s and Day’s eyes, that OSU is going to have a long night.
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Did Kirk Herbstreit have a facelift?
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I’d say that, just based on the look in Stroud’s and Day’s eyes, that OSU is going to have a long night.
They're definitely making a game of it.
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What the actual fuck on that one... Wasn't watching cause I was in our NYE meeting, but I paid very little attention to the meeting lol...
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Both games went the way I hoped they would.
I knew Michigan would lose when they tried that trick play on 4th and goal on their opening drive.
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I wasn't able to watch the second half of the OS vs. Georgia game until this morning. OS really made a better game of it than I thought they would. I'll bet their kicker is the most hated person in Columbus today. :lol
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Yeah, he didn't just miss it, he shanked the crap out of it. Feel a bit bad, dipshits will be sending him death threats and shit. Fucking idiots.
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Even though I wanted Ohio St. to lose, you have to feel bad for that kicker.
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Even though I wanted Ohio St. to lose, you have to feel bad for that kicker.
Absolutely....still happy they lost though.
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Those were some pretty wild games, that's really all we can ask for especially since these games sometimes are so one sided. Kind of shocked OSU had that game won and TCU handled Michigan though.
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Georgia is a 13.5 point favorite as of now.
Who in their right fucking mind wants to give 13.5 to a team that just put up 51 points on Michigan?
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Saw a tweet that said 'one minute into the new year and every team is undefeated except Ohio St' :rollin
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Huh? USC doesn’t have a viable defense? Who knew?!
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Meltdown of Biblical proportions. Couldn't have happened to a nicer team.
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Meltdown of Biblical proportions.
Seems to be a theme with PAC-12 . The moment is too big for Utah. 😡
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Embarrassing performance by the entire Michigan team and especially from coach Harbaugh.
They were woefully unprepared in every aspect of the game. Yet again, Harbaugh is unable to win a bowl game. His clock management decisions at the end of the game were brutal.
It was a great season but I'm left with disappointment.
Props to TCU. They kicked our ass!
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Embarrassing performance by the entire Michigan team and especially from coach Harbaugh.
They were woefully unprepared in every aspect of the game. Yet again, Harbaugh is unable to win a bowl game. His clock management decisions at the end of the game were brutal.
Ya know. I love how Michigan is pushing a lot of the blame on the refs. I do think that TD called back was a bad call, but generally, Michigan gets the favorable calls all the time in the Big 10. It's funny how Michigan is so bad in bowl games. Maybe because they don't get the Big 10 refs and have to play like everyone else.
Great game by PSU last night. I didn't expect them to win going in, I thought Utah was built similarly to Michigan and was probably better coached. But I think PSU put together their best game all season, specifically with Clifford who FINALLY played great in a big game. He basically redeemed himself which was very nice to see and his emotion after the game was really special. It does suck Rising got hurt. He would have kept the game interesting and maybe could have won it for them because he was making a lot of big 3rd down plays.
11-2 and finishing in the top 10... I'll take it when most predicted this year was an 8 win team and not ranked to start the year. A lot to look forward to next year since so many young players were playing meaningful minutes yesterday and a top QB recruit to take over.
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This is borderline embarrassing. Fuck, I thought TCU would hang at least a bit, but they ejust getting fucking smoked.
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Yeah, I’ve turned it off. The Horny Toads aren’t coming back from that first half.
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Yeah, I’ve turned it off. The Horny Toads aren’t coming back from that first half.
No chance in hell, GA was just straight up toying with them at the end of that half. Not even pretty.
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Well then.
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WTF? What a ratings nightmare for ESPN. Can't believe a championship game could be so lopsided.
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I kind of expected this, not this bad, and didn't even watch any of it. I would have turned it on if the game was close in the 2nd half but I didn't even follow the score anymore at that point. What a joke. Georgia is just that good, but also, even with TCU's win over Michigan, you're going to see a lot of people say they shouldn't of been there at all due to the Big 12 just being a bad conference. Personally, I think it was the right choice by the committee but the end result was pretty embarrassing.